Encounter at the Old Sawmill and Revenge of the Devil Monkeys

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And it and I just I just
sitting there watching and looking. And when

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I looked down and I grabbed my
sandwich and I looked back up and I've

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seen it. I've seen it go
behind the tree. And I was like,

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okay, there's something up there.
So I kept watching and it it

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had its hand and it leaned.
It just leaned, kept leaning watching me.

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I was like painting pekaboo. I
was like, okay, this that's

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something not normal. But I just
kept watching it. And then I snagged

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a picture and my phone died.
It was it had been on charge,

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and it was just it just died. And then it felt like an eternity.

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That thing was just watching me.
And after a few minutes it just

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disappearod and walked up the ridge hight. There. You're listening to the Big

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Three two one, All right,
big Faciety. We got the privilege of

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talking to mister Harley Owens from the
great State of Tennessee, specifically East Tennessee,

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where all that crazy stuff happens.
But how's it going today, Harley?

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It's going good. How are you
today? I'm having a good night.

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We are kind of having a little
bit of a a little lull in

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the temperature out here in Iowa,
so we're having a good one, kind

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of chilling out. We're out in
the porch before this, but I'm just

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glad to talk to you. You
had connected with me over Facebook a few

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days back, and at the more
we got talking, I was like,

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well, man, this is kind
of starting to turn into something interesting.

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So I was like, let's just
chat about this because I want to get

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the community on the inside of this
one as well. Because your your story

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sounds like it's very interesting. We've
got some We've got a sound clip to

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play eventually, but really what I'd
like you to do, Harley is let's

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just start. You can share what's
been going on with you. It's pretty

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interesting. Well, it's it's happened
that I said three years ago. It

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was September twenty second. That was
the day actually seeing the creature, but

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going back a couple of weeks so
that I was up there a couple of

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weeks before I had even seen it. We's going its working on auction up

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there for a logging company that went
out of business, and I went up

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there and we started working around and
stuff, and I just had this eerie

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feel and the whole time we were
up there, I mean the first day

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we went in there, it was
early in the morning and there was deer

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going in and now there are turkeys
and there's all normal wildlife you'd be saying

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around And we got talking to the
owner of the place and I was like,

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well, there's deer and stuff in
here. He's like, yeah,

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there's beggars and snakes and all that. He said there's far worse things than

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these mountains than those and that that
stuck with me, you know, and

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I was like, there's worse things
and barriers and snakes and it's just that's

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odd, you know. And just
going going through the next week there,

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it was just had this feeling you
were being watched and like you'd hear what

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sounded like bird whistles and it wasn't
like any bird whistle I'd ever heard.

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And just going on up through there, it's just weird. And by the

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time the auction was over, I
stayed up there to help load people load

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stuff that they bought. Well,
it's pretty slow because people normally had just

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come up there to pick up their
stuff that they had bought. And this

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the day of the twenty second when
I seen the creature. It had rained

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the day before, and that's when
I I had found the first couple of

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tracks that I had sent to you
in pictures from the rain. And then

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that next day it was it was
going on one two o'clock something like that,

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and I just had this feeling I
was being watched and there was nobody

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there. It was just me and
I went to go grab a Coca cola

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out of the cooler because I just
saw on lunch, I was taking me

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a break since there was nobody there, and I heard this. I heard

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a growl and I was like,
well, that's that's not normal. I

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was looking around because I thought it
was a bear. As my first innis

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was thought there's a bear. So
I just started looking around and I kept

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hearing it, and I was like, that's weird. I got looking up

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on the ridgeline and I could hear
something walking and it and I I was

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just sitting there watching and looking,
and when I looked down and I grabbed

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my sandwich and I looked back up
and I've seen it. I've seen it

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go behind the tree. And I
was like, okay, there's something up

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there. So I kept watching and
it it had its hand and it leaned.

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It just leaned kept leaning watching me. I was like playing pekaboo.

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I was like, okay, this
that's something not normal. But I just

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kept watching it and then I snagged
a picture and my phone just die.

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It was it had been on charge, and it was just it just died.

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And then it felt like an eternity. That thing was just watching me.

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And after a few minutes, it
just disappeared and walked up the ridge

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hardly. I have a few few
questions for you at this point, if

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that's okay, yes, sir,
can you can you share again what you

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feel comfortable with the area that all
this was happening in. I look region

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wise. I don't know how specific
you can get, but it was it

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was kind of down in the holler, the hollow holler. It's just the

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country Tilne coming out of me.
It's just the hollers. It was up

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on a mountain and this you're going
down into this place. It goes down

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into the holler and then it comes
back up on a big flat where the

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old sawmill was and where I was. I was standing out of the sawmill

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on an asphalt there. I was
looking up on the ridgeline where the where

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the ridge was, and that's where
the creature was. That it was up

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on the ridge of off the cliff. It was peeking off the cliff from

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Maria tree watching me gotcha and the
state and I don't know if you can

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share the town or anything specific.
It was in Pound, Virginia, is

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it. It's probably about ten fifteen
minutes from Kentucky line. So rich in

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bigfoot history at Appalachia, if you
ask me, it's all big Foot,

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Oh absolutely, I mean that that
part of it's it's all bets are off

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with You've got stuff going on Apple
Appalachia, especially to do with with big

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Foot. But so you're you're looking
up there and you see the thing by

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the tree, were you able to
see any any details that you noticed about

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the creature, maybe in the face
or anything like that. I it was

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it probably about one hundred and fifty
yards away. I mean, I couldn't

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really make no close figure like facial
pictures out But I've had I've had pictures

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in off and I've had it people
edited it and stuff, and they've said

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that you can see the facial nuck, a nose and a mouth and eyes

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and all that stuff. But I
never I never could tell from how far

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I was white. It was just
a black mass and it was leaning from

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around a tree, and it was
massive. Had it wasn't a bear.

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I've seen bears, and just the
way it was acting, it was not

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a bear. I'm checking right now
just talking about it. It's a It

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wasn't a bear. I know for
one hundred percent fact it wasn't a bear.

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Absolutely. Did you get a feel
for how tall the creature was at

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all? I had? If I
had to guess, I'd say it was.

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I'm six five six sixs that thing
seven and a half eight foot tall.

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Easy. It was massive. It
was just a massive four arms and

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it was huge as broad. It
could have easily had its white with me.

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M hm. Around that time?
Did you hear any interesting sounds or

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smells, any smells anything. The
smell it was it smelled like rotten flesh,

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but it was for the wind was
blowing and it was blowing my direction

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in it. But I really weren't
paying that much attention to the smell.

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I was worried about it because it
was it was watching me, and I

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was really on guard after seeing it
because you had to work in that area.

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What was it like working in that
area after you had that sighting?

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I had my gun on my side
after that, Okay, it was I

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was just always on guard. I
was watching and listening and being aware of

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because that thing coming up on me
if it's been bad and you were working

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by yourself in that area, right, yes, sir, I was.

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Wow. It's just very weird that
that picture you you showed me, you

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know, and I see a lot
of pictures, I'll be honest, as

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as listeners can imagine, I get, I get a lot of stuff.

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But I looked at this when I
was like, man, you you really

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can see It's almost like there's a
shadow in front of that tree, to

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the point where I was like,
I wanted to go to that area to

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the tree to see if, like
if that shape was still there. Oh,

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it wasn't there. It wasn't.
I promised you it wasn't. I'm

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promised you it wasn't. Yeah.
But but I say that to say that,

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that's how convincing it was. I
was like, man, it feels

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like there is something there, which
I was I was trying to look around

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and see if I could find a
way up on that ridge. But that

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trail away that I sent you,
the video of that trailway goes around up

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onto that ridge, does it?
M And there's an old semi trailer up

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there from our trailway was it went
up to the trailer traild tractor trailer up

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there, and it veered up went
up to that ridge where I saw the

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creature. Tell me a bit about
did you find the trailway after or before

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you had the sighting. I found
the first two traps from in the after

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the rain the day before, but
I found the other trailway after after I

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was saying the creature like it was
coming down or being nosy, mm hmm.

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It's very interesting too, you know, watching the video that you sent

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over, how how far apart would
you see the tracks were in the trap

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the trackwayer that you that's I ever
been eight to ten feet. I couldn't

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do it because I tried stepping it
off and I couldn't do it. And

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I'm sixty five sixty sixth time.
I mean I've got a pretty good step

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and I could I couldn't stride that. Yeah, it is pretty wild.

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And so you'd shared some of your
your story with me, and then I

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think it was at the point where
you had told me that there's a track

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way involved, and then there were
some sounds that you'd recorded. I was

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at that point, I was like, oh man, there is some really

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interesting stuff going on here. So
when when did the sounds start to play

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into the whole story? The day
after I've seen the creature, the twenty

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third, and the twenty fourth,
two days a day after and two days

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after I've seen the creature? Can
you can you share with Actually? Should

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we should? We play the sound. Let's play the sound and I'll have

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you talked about a little bit and
then we'll play it again afterwards. So

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I'm going to say, cue that
up, okay, and this is as

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loud as I can get it all
while we're talking. I'll probably push it

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up a bit in editing. Yeah, I'm getting I'm trying to just listen

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to that again. Yeah, So, so kind of bring us back to

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what was going on when you were
hearing those sounds, because they're really really

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interesting. A. So that particular
one was the day after I've seen a

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creature. I was packing up,
I was getting ready to leave out of

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there, and there was deer up
in the valley from where I was at

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and I was looking, I was
watching them, and all of a sudden

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they were gone. I was like, well, that's just weird and I

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knew then there was something around.
And right after they were gone, I

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started hearing the house, which it
sounded like with that particular one, it

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was close to where I had seen
that one, but it sounded like it

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was on further up in the ridge. We'll be back with more Bigfoot society

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And what time? What time of day?

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Again? Did these the right at
dusk and dark? Right at the

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little after dark? What was the
rest of the woods like around that when

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those sounds were going on? Was
there anything else going on at the same

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time? Just the crickets? Everything
else was just dead quiet. Just the

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crickets was the only thing going.
Could you hear any like any snapping of

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twigs or anything moving around during those
howls? Or I did here, which

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I thought it was just something falling
and it may have been a would knock

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respond to those howls. It sounded
like it was behind me over in the

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holler below me, because like I
said, I wasn't where going into that

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place where I was at. There's
a road that goes down and goes into

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the holler below where there's a railroad
track, And it sounded like that knock

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come from behind me down that holler, responding to that one holler up on

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the ridge. So I think that
may well have been a response to that

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one. That is really interesting.
I'm not I'm not sure what to think

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of that that howell. The first
you know, we were going back and

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forth in the Facebook messages and I
was like, well, do you do

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you have any ELK and you had
responded, I'll just let you respond what

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you had said. They had being
ready introduced into Tennessee in the early two

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thousands, particularly where I'm from,
Jacksboro, Tennessee. Uh, they had

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rein adduced them to Hatfield, nab
Us. It's five hours away. I

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mean, I'm not saying that they
help couldn't have traveled that far. I'm

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sure they have because they've They're in
Kentucky now too, traveling from or they're

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released him where I'm from. So
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up there. But what made those
hells, what help, what made those

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sounds wasn't ill. It's just really
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are. You have no idea.
I would I would say listeners, please,

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if you are a outdoorsman and you
have any ideas put it in the

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comments, because we're honestly trying to
figure this out, and I'm sure there'll

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be some people that might even say
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man Harley. Have you have you
thought of that at all? I have,

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yes, And I who's to say, I mean, you know,

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I mean there could there could be
dog man, could be Bigot, could

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be dot Foot in that area.
Who's to site for certain? You know,

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I mean, we don't know.
I don't know what's in these woods

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now. After seeing what I think
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been Bob Man. What I say, I'm not for sure. I don't

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have all the answers to what I've
seen, but I'm looking to find out

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absolutely absolutely. Did you ever have
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that? No, I haven't been
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back and get answers. The great
thing about this podcast is it has quite

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the listener reach, so hopefully there
might even be a listener in that county

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or that area that has also experienced
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has happened before in episodes. There's
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to this story. Do you mind
sharing about how you went to the drive

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in and then the individuals you were
talking to? Oh? Yes, sir,

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yes, yea. So I went
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there called Robos, and I noticed
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table talking. I was like,
well, okay, I'll just go talking

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to them. I mean maybe they
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and I just struck up conversation at
first, and I started talking to him.

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I was like, uh, y'all
have had any strange encounters up here

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on these mountains, you know?
I was like, I seen something up

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here a couple of days ago when
I've heard some noises and I found tracks

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and I'm not quite sure what this
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of quiet about it at first,
and they said, well, that's the

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devil monkeys. I was like,
so bigfoot and I was like, no,

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devil monkeys. I was like,
mmm, okay, it's kind of

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struck out devil monkeys. I've never
never heard a term like that before.

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And they was like yeah, they
said, they said you're lucky. They

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said they're dangerous and anything to get
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just stuck with me. Devil monkeys. I mean, that's something I just

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don't forget, like devil monkeys.
That's a phrase that has stuck with me

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since three years ago. And I
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That is I don't know what to
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in your response, I was like, I mean, if listeners have some

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other stories about these devil monkeys of
you know, Kentucky and Virginia border,

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definitely let me know, send me
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But hardly it's it's such an interesting
story. Did How did everything end?

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Was it just that you had to
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eventually? Or yeah, yes,
sir, Yeah, I wasn't needed up

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there anymore, and so I just
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what I'd had witnessed and heard.
It's it's been on my mind to go

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back and get some closure, and
I've really contemplated it. Yeah, I

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would probably be thinking about it for
three years like you have been. Yeah,

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and it's been hard for me to
open up about it. I mean

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I've had nightmares ever since. I
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of nights ago about it, because
I mean, it's just something I don't

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forget. M h. I appreciate
you opening up, man, I know

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sometimes, well most times, it
really does help to be able to finally

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to share about it. Yeah,
it's helped me a lot. You don't

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understand. It's helping me a lot. That's that's awesome. That makes me

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feel really good. Harley his Hopefully
there hasn't been things that have also happened

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in Eastern Tennessee where you're at.
No, sir, not recently. No,

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But I do have another encounter that
I would like to share from my

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past that it was a long time
ago, but I believe it may have

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something to do with big Foot as
well. Sure it was. It's probably

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about probably about eight nine years old, and we had a bunch of hogs,

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but we had about ten or twelve
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over three four hundred pounds, and
we were getting ready to kill them.

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And one night all the dogs started
going crazy. And that next morning and

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we went down there to check the
hogs and all of them were dead,

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ripped apart, all of them dead. Really Yeah, And like I said,

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that happened in my childhood and my
dad he said, he said,

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I don't think a bear could have
done this unless I had a cub and

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the cub was in there, and
but he said, I just don't see

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it killing all of them. Oh
man, were there any tracks around?

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Not that I can remember. It
was dry. I don't. I don't

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remember ever finding any. That was
just something from the childhood that I remember,

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and it stuck with me since seeing
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And they're just absolutely you said they
were just they're trying apart. Yeah,

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yeah, they were pretty rough.
I don't remember it was they were torn

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apart and was I couldn't have imagined
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eastern Tennessee. Let's do you mind
sharing it? And you know, I

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want to be respectful of your area, maybe a county that that would have

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a Campbell County, Jacksboro, Tennessee, of the city. Okay, it's

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very very interesting, Harley. This
has been one of those chats that I

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think is going to lead to some
some other ones as well. I hope

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it does. And I encourage any
other listener out there is your skeptic to

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share your story, share it because
it's it'll help you get it off your

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mind and get others aware of Bigfoot
and any other large cryptic creature. That's

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right on, That's absolutely right.
My emails are always open. Big Society

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at gmail dot com is the best
way to try to reach me. It

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is getting to the point where I
get a lot of messages in the different

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social media platforms. Thankfully I was
able to see Harley's but the best way

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is email if you want to make
sure that you do reach me. But

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Harley, I'm so glad that you
that you reached out. We were able

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to chat. Is it all right
if I share the photos and videos and

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the Patreon? Sorry you are you
are allowed to use that? Awesome?

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Well, thank you so much for
coming on. If there's anything else that

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that does occur with you in the
future, which I hope there's not,

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feel free to reach out. And
I'm sure, I'm sure. I'm I'm

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gonna try and get out there and
all right, I find some more answers.

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I'm going I'm going to I'm I'm
going to get my closure. I'm

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gonna try and get back out in
the woods and see if I can get

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some more answers. That's fantastic.
Keep me in the the loop with what

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happens Man? Yes, sorry,
sure will. I greatly appreciate you,

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Jeremat, thanks for chatting. Harley, Hi, thank you. You're a

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Bigfoot Society article is to provide a
platform for those that have encountered Bigfoot to

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share their encounter in a safe and
respected environment. But we need to hear

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your story. If you've experienced something
that you just can't explain, please send

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me an email at Bigfoot Society at
gmail dot com. Then we can start

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the conversation. And I know a
lot of you have not shared your encounter

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at all. It's been twenty years
and it's time that you get this off

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your chest and then you can get
some well deserved for rest, because I

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know you haven't been sleeping. I
understand what you're going through, and I

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appreciate every one of you listening.