Nov. 30, 2024

Encounters from the Lummi Reservation and more!

In this episode of the Bigfoot Society, host Jeremiah Byron presents a collection of compelling firsthand Bigfoot encounters from across America. Starting with post-Hurricane Helene Bigfoot activities in North Carolina, the journey continues with...

In this episode of the Bigfoot Society, host Jeremiah Byron presents a collection of compelling firsthand Bigfoot encounters from across America. Starting with post-Hurricane Helene Bigfoot activities in North Carolina, the journey continues with eerie experiences in the Blue Ridge Parkway, including trees snapped post-hurricane, mysterious shadows, and strange noises. The episode also explores chilling stories from the Tahoe National Forest where campers hear a mountain 'breathing,' and hunters in Northern Arizona encountering an eight-foot-tall figure. East Texas offers tales of unknown sounds, tree breaks, and mimicked human voices, while a Colorado resident recounts a sighting near Mount Zion and subsequent restricted land access. The final section dives into the rich Native American lore and frequent Bigfoot sightings near the Lummi Reservation in Washington, where unique cultural perspectives highlight respect and coexistence with these mysterious beings. An unforgettable series of accounts that span from the Blue Ridge Parkway to the reservations in Washington and Nevada, this episode is a must-listen for anyone fascinated by the elusive Bigfoot.

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collection of interviews that I did on the Bigfoot Society

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TikTok account. These are individuals that were unable to be

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vetted due to the nature of the interview situation. It

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is literally people coming into my life and requesting and

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out with an individual that has been having Bigfoot activity

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after the Hurricane Helene hit in North Carolina in East Tennessee.

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I believe the focus does still need to be on

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helping out people in this area for as long as

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it needs to be done. In fact, I'll have a

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link in the show notes of the Confessionals podcast is

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put a link on how individuals can donate to help

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out that area that has been affected. However, there are

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stories that will need to be shared. People will start

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to come forward and this is a platform that will

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share those stories. The focus does need to be on

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helping the individuals that were affected, but we will start

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to share stories and accounts, and again the link will

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be in the show notes for how to help those

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that have been affected by the hurricane. Hello, hey Nanda,

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this is Jeremiah. Thanks for coming out. Feel free to

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share what's been going on down there in the Blue

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Ridge Parkway area.

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Okay, I love off of eighty, which is a well

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known area for people to ride to check out the

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Blue Ridge. It cuts directly onto the Blue Ridge Parkway.

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We have the.

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Devil's Whip, just a lot of fun stuff to do

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here if you're in a riding motorcycles. I actually have

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the Appalachian Trail going through my backyard and since the hurricane,

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we've had a lot of increased activities from trees broken

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in half that weren't broken before the hurricane. Keep in

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mind that we didn't have anybody up here working at

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the time, so they would be pushed certain ways. Hallmarks

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extremely high up on trees. I don't know what that

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would be from. We don't we have a little black

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They're not that big here. And from seeing shadows, especially

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when I take my dogs out at night, of tall

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entities walking through the woods, hearing footsteps and things like

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that to the house that the hoots is what you

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would call it, or whoops yep, to even alien type activity.

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I'm close to about thirty minutes from Brown Mountain. We've

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actually had lights show up. We would sit out on

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the front porch and they would come down the valley.

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the valley. The lights would appear out of nowhere. No

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reason for lights, no cars out that way, to just

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things disappearing and moving. During the hurricane, we kept our

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house in lock because we were letting volunteers use it

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as a station area so that way they could get

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what they needed supply, they could had somewhere to sleep,

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somewhere where they could get to comfortably before they came in.

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They noticed that things were moved around. It looked like

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they found some weird fur, massive footprints, things like that.

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It's funny, but we said, we wonder if Bigfoot came

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and chilled at the house while we were gone, because

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we were going for about three weeks right after the hurricane.

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we have a graveyard of family owned graveyard from the

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eighteen hundreds, not our family, about two hundred yards from

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our back door. All the time we see shadows and

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stuff down there. Talking about cats, I have two outdoor cats.

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they were taken care of. I don't know who took

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care of them, but somebody took care of the cats

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the whole time we were going. And I left off

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of out in the middle of nowhere. You would not

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be able to find my house unless you knew it

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was there. That's how secluded I am. We just got

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power back this past week.

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just by the Blue Ridge Parkway, Devil's Whip area.

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at the North Carolina Tennessee line, and you can pull

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up the Blue Ridge Parkway and check it out. There's

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of wild stuff out here. Apparently they say the skin

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walker's out here. We've heard animal sounds, and I've grown

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up in North Carolina my entire life. Sounds that we

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have scared us. My husband is a marine, and several

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times things have happened from people. We don't know if

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it's a person going through cars, but keep in my

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mind close as neighbor is an elderly man about a

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half a mile away. Car doors would be a battery,

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the battery for my husband's truck. If somebody opens the

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door and doesn't shut it right, because it's a pretty

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old truck, the battery would die. So it's somebody would

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open the car looking for stuff and come back outside

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and the car door is still open or the battery

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is dead. We've seen shadows go past the windows, and

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the shadows would be massive. They would take over the

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take up the majority of the window. They're pretty high.

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I think it was three thousand feet above elevation. It

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gets cold up here and snows often, but lots of

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wild stuff. We've been putting food out, not only for

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our cats, but just to see if somebody would take it.

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I left tonight. I've left two bags of uneaten grapes

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out on the porch just to see if they're going

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in the morning.

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I would say, be very careful doing that. The trick

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is that when you start doing that and then you

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stop doing it, that's when it can cause some big issues.

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But I get how you're trying to feed the cats

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as well.

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And I just see where somebody said that Appalachian Trail part,

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the part of the trail that goes through our backyard

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has been completely changed. Big boulters from the top of

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the mountain have come down rocks everywhere. They're finding all

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sorts of stuff they didn't know was there, from caves

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to We found a gold nugget, or at least it

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probably isn't, but lots of wild stuff is being found.

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You found a gold nugget, yes, on.

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The apple trew.

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It's the hurricane. In fact, when the mud slides started,

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we had vibrations here at the house. We thought we

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were having an earthquake, and so we just happened to

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be where we were at the river or the water

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flowed on each side of the house, but didn't touch

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the house. I'll be glad to send you pictures so

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you can see what was a tiny absolutely turned into

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a river. Oh boy, So lots of stuff has been

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on earth, lots of stuff has been changed.

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I have a few questions for you. They say how

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large the footprints were the people that were using your

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house and helping out.

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From the pictures and from what he explained, it was

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barefoot and it was much bigger than him and he

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wears a size twelve.

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All right, it's happening. Yeah, I knew these were going

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to start coming in. Do you have a way to

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to contact that person?

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Yeah, I sure do.

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Would you be able to reach out to see if

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they would be up for talking about it?

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Sure?

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I will give them a message here later and see

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if I can get them to come on. I know

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they were busy. A lot of us have been doing

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a lot of volunteer work. Yeah, because the devastation here

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is much worse than what's being shown, but worse.

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Or they you can even pass on my email to

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that might make it easier for them. You said that

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they saw a fur as well, Yes.

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Long darkish black fur, blackish brown, he said, and it

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smelled horrible.

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Oh okay, just the fur or were there things attached

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to it? Skin flesh?

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For some reason? He picked up the fur and seld it.

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I don't I've witten my wife. Yeah, and actually my

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foster is in heat too, So there's been more activity,

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but nothing. No coyotes, no wolves, nothing like that, No bears.

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Were these guys that were from the area or were

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they from different parts of the country.

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Correct, Yes, they were volunteers coming in. Veterans that volunteers

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come in to help move people out, because we found

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areas where there were two hundred and thirty people in

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a church, stranded with no access to fresh food or water.

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Wow. And it's still extremely bad down there, isn't it.

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The energy out here is changed. It's more chaotic, but

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sometimes it's extremely chaotic, and then sometimes it's very comforting.

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I've actually had a near death experience a couple of

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years ago, and sometimes I feel and see things that

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I don't know if it's from the brain injury or

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if it's I'm speaking stuff into existence. But like I said,

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the energy has changed out here. We have heard footsteps

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on our back porch when there's nobody here, nobody whatsoever.

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Later to send you pictures of the house and everything.

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We have a of them out uphill climb to get

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to the house.

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Do you have Do you ever hear things from the

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woods like your name's being said? Or whistles? Or would.

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We hear knocks all the time? My son, bless his heart,

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my father grew up telling him he was going to

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be a big foot hunter, and so my dad would

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take him outside and they would hide jack links jerky

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outside and knock on trees and hoot and holler and everything.

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And it's funny because my grandmother could not say sasquatch,

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so she always called him snatchcrotch. So for the longest

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time we've always said up, snatch crotches coming to get you.

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But that's a whole story in itself. He has gone

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outside and knocked on trees. I've even done it, and

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you'll hear knocks back how quickly, within at least a

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minute thirty seconds longer. Yeah, I've heard screams. Like I said,

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I know there's coyote and stuff in this, But I

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know what a coyote scream sounds like. This sounds like

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a human, but it's deeper. If that, it's got more

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power to it.

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Yeah, that makes sense.

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Absolutely. Any other weird things ever heard from the woods

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that would not belong?

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We've seen taking pictures outside at night and you'd see

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two eyes up high, up high in the trees. You'd

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have that kind of a bluish green eyeshine. Laughing and yeah,

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we have heard laughing several times, mumbling like somebody was

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talking but you couldn't understand them.

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So it's like that, Oh I know what you mean. Yeah, absolutely, yeah, Wow,

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Ever anything crying?

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Yes, my dogs, especially the foster one that we have,

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if she goes outside and she gets spooted, so she's

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always checking her boundaries.

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She came from a bad situation for.

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The past week.

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Every time, maybe two weeks now, yeah, about two weeks now.

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Every time she goes outside, she looks around and barks.

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She'll bark two or three times, and if she hears

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or feels something, she's immediately back in the house.

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Wow, that is very intense. And this has been happening

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for years or for how long I've.

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Been here two years up here. They've been in North

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Carolina the majority of my life. I'm originally coastal.

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Gotcha, have there ever been any sightings of Bigfoot around

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the area where you're at?

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Mary in North Carolina has the Bigfoot Festival each summer.

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It's cool.

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So yeah, you're saying, definitely, yeah, there's in sightings. Oh

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have you heard any other stories of people that were

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noticing things that could be Bigfoot related?

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After the hurricane, majority of our neighbors have noticed things

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have shifted, moved, things aren't where they left them like

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people like folks have been plundering. But here's the thing

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we had where we live. It's very rural. The road

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was completely washed out. There was no way to get

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back here unless you had four wheel drive or an

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ATV or you attempted to walk it. So for people

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to get trees or big cut trees that they had.

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Moved is odd, right, It doesn't make sense. It doesn't

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People aren't just going to be randomly going up there.

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It'd have to be something else, is what.

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I'm hearing exactly.

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Yet, after the hurricane, it took almost five or six

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days for us to get evacuated, and that was a metavac.

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Oh my goodness. If you start hearing things from oh

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she's out, Okay, that's unfortunate. I had other things to

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ask because she's going to probably reach out through email.

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At the time of editing November twenty, twenty twenty four,

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this individual has not reached out with any further information

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or emails. If they're listening, they're invited to do so

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by contacting me ATPICFO Society at gmail dot com. Also,

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if there are other individuals that have noticed increased Bigfoot

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activity that seemed connected to the hurricane, please reach out

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big for Society gmail dot com. So, Hanny, what what

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did you experience during that storm flood?

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Okay, well, I lived on a river and the water

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was really high, and in fact, it was so high

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that it was a big flood. It was in ninety

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see I think it was in ninety seven. Anyway, there

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was a warning alarm on the television back then, remember

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when when it used you know, do you know what

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I'm talking about?

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Oh?

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Yeah, So the TV was on. We were all sleeping

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out in the living room because the flood was really big.

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The flood was so huge you could hear trees crashing

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through the water and stuff.

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Big for society. Who will be right back after these messages?

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It was so we had a fun store morning thing

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on and it came on in the middle of the night,

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and so I bolted up in bed and heard this

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big crash on the back of my back deck looking

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over the river. And here he came, just crawling right

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over the railing and took down the railing and a

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planter and just lumbered right across my porch. He only

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took three big steps, looked right over through the sliding

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glass door, and then vanished into forest ten feet away

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from me.

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Oh my goodness. Would you be able to share what

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state this took place in.

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I was in southern Oregon, those of the California border.

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So were we talking like down by Grant's Pass or

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farther south?

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Okay, as a crow flies pretty close to Grant's Pass,

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that's the same surrounding area, but in the wilderness mountain side.

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I'm not surprised at all.

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Yeah, my interest and investibaation just personally, I have I

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kind of believed that their interdimensional as far as their

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speed goes, and the way that he was walking I

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have heard from I used to listen there used to

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be a big foot line on the talk radio that

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I listened to all the time up in that area.

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Wow.

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Nice, And so they encouraged us to, like, you know,

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take a stick and bang it three times in a

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tree to listen for a shout back. And there was

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a lot of activity going on in the forest during

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that time period. Supposedly they were on the move up

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to a British columbiad.

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So did you get a good look at its face

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when it came over the Yeah.

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I got a good look at I got a good

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look at the whole thing. It was. It was almost

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as if it was in slow motion. I mean it was,

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it was close. I could hear the whole thing. It

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was clumsy. He when he went over the railing, he stumbled,

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knocked it over, and then knocked over the planter. So

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he turned his head and looked down and it was

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kind of in slow motion. And but then when he

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got off of my deck and went into the woods,

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it seemed as if he just disappeared.

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What what color was it a.

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Kind of similar to what my lamas looked like, where

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it was like calico, kind of light calico, do you

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know what I mean? Like with yeah, really wooly like dretty.

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That okay, So like the hair on it almost looked

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like dreads. You're saying, Yeah, that is extremely interesting. I've

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actually taken reports from up in the Willamette National Forest

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where there were there was a group of people that

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were chased away from what they said were two sasquatch

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that looked like they had dreads. So that's extremely interesting.

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You said that, do you remember any details about what

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you saw in the phase area?

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Well, the eyes were kind of yellowish, but there was

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so much hair, and he turned around and looked over

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his shoulder at the planter and then turned towards the door,

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the exciding glass door that I was looking through.

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But there was no like ear bumps or you know.

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There there wasn't really any features around the head.

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Absolutely shape for the head at all, kind.

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Of longish, elongated forehead right right.

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You had mentioned that there was a lot of other

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activity going around going on in the area. What other

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kind of things were happening in the woods during that time.

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Well, there's this whole area that is kind of above

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where I live, where there's a thing called the Bigfoot trap,

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and it was so you're familiar with with where I'm

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talking about.

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Then that is a very if you're in the community

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that's kind of like a legendary area. Yeah, you can

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still go to it, I believe.

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Yeah, oh yeah, it's still very much. There's really simple,

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but the trees are just smashed over in that whole area.

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It's been so long ago now as far as on

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the talk radio and stuff, the experience is like yesterday.

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But as far as what I was listening to, and

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you know, I mean it was always late night after art.

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Bell, it was.

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A big, hairy man like.

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Form.

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I mean I would I would say, you know, if

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you're going to close your eyes and imagine what bigfoot

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would look like, that is what it looked like. There

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was no other animal features like there wasn't an elongated nose,

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there wasn't perked up ears, there wasn't any of that.

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Was really like a human form kind of a look thing,

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just large and in slow motion, very heavy, very heavy.

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I mean it shook my porch. But he looked like

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he was running.

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From the from how fast it was going or is

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that more from.

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The by the way that his body was moving and

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the way that you know, his foot caught the railing

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tipped it over. He was in a hurry, and it

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was during that I mean there were boulders rolling down

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the river. It ended up being you know, they opened

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the floodgates of the applegate damn that night.

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Oh wow, it was a huge. It was just like

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getting me out of there pretty much.

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Yeah, or you know, I mean I've often thought if

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they were rounding up family, or I mean, what was

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he doing on my.

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Back porch.

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Right exactly yet?

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But the deck that overlooked this spawning salmon, spawning swimming hole.

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It was a beautiful part of the river, pretty big gorge,

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you know.

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Perfect place as well for them. You know, it's a great,

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great food source. Was anyone else there with you to

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see it or were you alone at that time?

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Well?

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I wasn't alone, but I was asleep on the living

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room floor doing you know, watching the stay watched to

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make sure that we didn't need to evacuate. So I

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just my two girls next to me in bed. But

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when the planter fell off of the railing, it woke

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up my three year old, but she didn't see anything.

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It just it was just that the porch was crashing,

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you know, and there was there was the big e

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going off on the TV. It was a very chaotic

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moment in time.

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Well, Hanni, thank you so much for coming up and

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for sharing what happened that night back in the nineties.

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I really appreciate you coming up.

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Sure, thank you so much.

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Have a great night. Thanks for coming up. So is

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it sonya?

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Yes?

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Cool? And so you had something weird happened in Tahoe

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National Forest. Yes, what happened out there in that forest?

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Yes, So we had been partying and camping up there.

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It was always a group of us.

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Can you hear me?

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Oh, yes, you sound great.

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Okay, So it was always like ten twenty of us.

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It was I'm a barber, so it was always like

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our two barber shops and friends and family that we

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would go up there with. So at night time, so

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we went and disrupt the rest of the campers. We

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would all whoever wanted to go at night. We would

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walk up to this waterfall that was like a quarter

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mile up through and you had to walk through this

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paved road because there's people that live up in the mountain,

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but you have campgrounds off to certain sections and very secluded.

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So we had to walk up this road and then

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you come up to this waterfall, and so we would

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be up there partying all night in one So the

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sixth year, we were up there and I decided to

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go use the bathroom.

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So I had to.

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Walk back, and we all had like little lamps on

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our heads, or you could carry a lamp. So I

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was walking back by myself, and I'm a runner, so

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I was lightly jogging back. And it was again that road,

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that quarter mile stretch, and I was jogging feeling so good,

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and all of a sudden, it's as if all my

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hair stood up all over my body. And I stopped

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instantly on my tracks, and I winced, and I like flinched,

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and I put it just felt like something was upon me.

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And I stopped, and I instantly remembered there's bears that

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in that uh force. And I was like, what am

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I gonna do? Am I gonna run? Am I gonna

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what to do? Scream hollered, what do I do? And

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I started hearing breathing, and I looked to my left,

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because that's like the mountain more to your now, it's

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to my left, and to my right is the river

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like from the waterfall. That's where the water's coming. So

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you could hear the water. But in that moment, I

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didn't hear water. I didn't hear anything. It's as if

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all I could hear was my heartbeat in my ear drums,

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and it was my blood and all my senses. My

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whole skin was tingling. I didn't know what to do.

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I was stuck there, and so I look up. I

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couldn't see anything, but I sensed or felt it was big, humongous.

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I didn't know what it was. I was again like

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me telling that my skin is crawling because I started

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walking out. So I just walk and keep moving. Whatever

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you do, keep moving, I remember, keep moving your feet,

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keep moving. And I kept looking up and I was like,

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instead of bears, that the bears are gonna run after me?

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What do I do?

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What do I do?

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And I kept looking and I could hear was this

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inhaling and exhaling. I don't know how bears inhaling excel.

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I don't know what they sound like. But it did

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not seem as if it was located. This breathing was

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as if it was the whole mountain breathing. I kept moving.

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It never came at me. I never heard no branch,

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no movement, nothing. All my sense was inhaling and exhaling,

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and the inhaling exhaling was following me, so it wasn't moving.

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It was as if the head was moving from what

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I felt like all my my hearing was hyper alert,

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like an its tenth sense volume ten. Wow, it's what

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I was hearing. And I went to the bathroom. I

468
00:30:02.920 --> 00:30:05.079
came back to the camera and I was telling everybody,

469
00:30:05.160 --> 00:30:09.119
and they were like, you're hi, what the I started

470
00:30:09.160 --> 00:30:12.720
cussing them out. I'm telling them, you guys, don't go

471
00:30:12.839 --> 00:30:16.519
over there by yourselves. I'm telling nobody would listen to me.

472
00:30:17.160 --> 00:30:18.839
Big for Society will be right back.

473
00:30:18.920 --> 00:30:38.559
After these messages, everybody was, you know, we're listening to music,

474
00:30:38.640 --> 00:30:42.680
they're dancing, blah blah blah, braading each other's hair. Nobody

475
00:30:42.720 --> 00:30:45.200
would listen to me. And so now I'm looking like

476
00:30:45.480 --> 00:30:49.519
I'm totally crazy because every time somebody's like, oh, we're

477
00:30:49.559 --> 00:30:52.319
gonna go to the back that I kept following them

478
00:30:52.799 --> 00:30:57.920
and I was telling everybody, watch out. They nobody would listen,

479
00:30:58.119 --> 00:31:00.519
and I was coming back and forth. I was so

480
00:31:00.640 --> 00:31:04.799
tired I couldn't even run back or forth. Anyways, that's

481
00:31:04.839 --> 00:31:07.440
my story. I don't know what to tell you. Nobody

482
00:31:07.480 --> 00:31:11.720
believed me. I feel even silly telling you, and I

483
00:31:11.720 --> 00:31:14.880
don't believe it was a bear. I don't know what

484
00:31:14.960 --> 00:31:17.759
it was, but it was as if the whole mountain

485
00:31:19.160 --> 00:31:22.599
was breathing, and it was.

486
00:31:24.359 --> 00:31:25.359
So scary.

487
00:31:25.799 --> 00:31:27.759
Anyways, thank you for listening.

488
00:31:28.039 --> 00:31:28.279
Was it?

489
00:31:29.240 --> 00:31:29.440
Yeah?

490
00:31:29.519 --> 00:31:31.480
Thank you? Thank you for sharing. Was it close to

491
00:31:31.599 --> 00:31:32.359
trucky at all?

492
00:31:33.880 --> 00:31:38.599
Trucky way past there? It was a cal Ida Tahoe

493
00:31:38.680 --> 00:31:39.720
National Forest?

494
00:31:41.200 --> 00:31:44.680
Gotcha? All right? Yeah? Uh let's see, Yeah, Tate, I

495
00:31:44.720 --> 00:31:47.519
think like Lake Tahoe is a great area. Tom Yamarone

496
00:31:47.599 --> 00:31:51.039
and Bob Strain recorded calls. Yeah, absolutely, t Well, Sonny,

497
00:31:51.079 --> 00:31:53.640
thank you for coming up and for sharing what you

498
00:31:53.759 --> 00:31:54.480
experienced that.

499
00:31:55.400 --> 00:31:59.359
Yeah, never be alone you guys, when you go camping anywhere,

500
00:31:59.400 --> 00:32:02.920
you go, go with somebody. Don't die.

501
00:32:03.000 --> 00:32:09.240
Alum, that's good advice. Actually, yeah, have a buddy system.

502
00:32:09.319 --> 00:32:13.839
So thanks Tom, thank you, Hey, DC, thanks for coming up.

503
00:32:13.839 --> 00:32:14.440
How's it going?

504
00:32:15.559 --> 00:32:16.519
Hey? What's up? Buddy?

505
00:32:17.680 --> 00:32:17.920
Hey?

506
00:32:18.759 --> 00:32:21.039
Do you mind if I potentially use this audio for

507
00:32:21.160 --> 00:32:25.799
my podcast? Feel free to share what you experienced up

508
00:32:25.839 --> 00:32:27.000
there in northern Arizona.

509
00:32:27.160 --> 00:32:31.279
Okay, I wasn't actually there. It was told by my friends.

510
00:32:31.440 --> 00:32:35.400
But these friends I've known for like over thirty years

511
00:32:36.680 --> 00:32:43.039
flag Staff Williams area. So my buddies told me they

512
00:32:43.039 --> 00:32:45.759
went up there to go hunting. They had scouted the area,

513
00:32:45.920 --> 00:32:49.319
you know, like weeks before they headed out, so they

514
00:32:49.400 --> 00:32:51.880
parked out on the side of the road. So they're like, okay,

515
00:32:52.000 --> 00:32:54.319
you know, grab our equipment.

516
00:32:54.480 --> 00:32:54.960
Set out.

517
00:32:55.119 --> 00:33:00.200
So there they tell me that, they get up the

518
00:33:00.279 --> 00:33:03.440
vehicle and they're walking into the woods. So when they

519
00:33:03.599 --> 00:33:07.839
started getting into the woods, it's not really dick yet

520
00:33:07.960 --> 00:33:10.720
until they start like probably like about a quarter mile,

521
00:33:10.880 --> 00:33:17.759
they start getting you know, dense woods surrounding. So that

522
00:33:17.960 --> 00:33:22.000
was my It was my buddy, his father, and a cousin,

523
00:33:23.519 --> 00:33:25.200
so it was three of them. So when they were

524
00:33:25.200 --> 00:33:29.240
out there, they saw someone running like kind of like

525
00:33:29.279 --> 00:33:32.400
a like a like a.

526
00:33:32.400 --> 00:33:37.720
Speed walk almost. It was another hunter. So this hunter was.

527
00:33:37.680 --> 00:33:42.799
Coming out and approached them and he started telling my

528
00:33:42.920 --> 00:33:47.160
friend and his dad and them, hey, we need to

529
00:33:47.160 --> 00:33:49.880
get out of here, you know, just get me out

530
00:33:49.920 --> 00:33:50.319
of here, you know.

531
00:33:50.400 --> 00:33:53.079
And and they were like, well, what's wrong, what are

532
00:33:53.079 --> 00:33:55.839
you talking about?

533
00:33:56.079 --> 00:33:58.400
And he just says, no, just I'll tell you when

534
00:33:58.400 --> 00:34:00.319
we get here, he says, just take me, just get

535
00:34:00.319 --> 00:34:00.960
me to the road.

536
00:34:00.960 --> 00:34:01.519
He says, my.

537
00:34:01.519 --> 00:34:05.480
Car is down like five miles down the road because

538
00:34:05.519 --> 00:34:10.000
where he was at he had to like head in

539
00:34:10.000 --> 00:34:15.159
a different direction, right, So he told him, you know,

540
00:34:15.199 --> 00:34:17.480
I'll pay you one hundred bucks if you guys take

541
00:34:17.559 --> 00:34:19.360
me down the road and give me my truck.

542
00:34:20.719 --> 00:34:22.519
They're like all right. So they head back to the.

543
00:34:22.519 --> 00:34:27.519
Truck, and they noticed that the guy kept on looking back,

544
00:34:27.599 --> 00:34:30.760
and then you know, they were like kind of started

545
00:34:32.239 --> 00:34:36.280
feeling uncomfortably set. So they started looking around their surroundings

546
00:34:36.280 --> 00:34:40.280
and all that. So when they get to the truck,

547
00:34:42.079 --> 00:34:45.400
he said, the guy just bolted out, like he didn't

548
00:34:45.440 --> 00:34:48.960
even like, man, the guy just left, you know. And

549
00:34:49.000 --> 00:34:51.920
he said, I guess he didn't want to riot after all.

550
00:34:52.079 --> 00:34:57.599
My buddy, he has a really keen eyesight. You know,

551
00:34:57.639 --> 00:35:00.960
he could see things from far away. He could pick

552
00:35:01.039 --> 00:35:06.159
up smell pretty good. So he said when they were

553
00:35:06.239 --> 00:35:08.320
right there, you know, like, okay, you know what was

554
00:35:08.360 --> 00:35:11.599
that all about? You know, So that my friend he

555
00:35:11.679 --> 00:35:18.400
tells me that he smelled this odor and he said

556
00:35:18.719 --> 00:35:21.920
he said it smelled like a wet dog. Like it

557
00:35:22.039 --> 00:35:25.840
was like like the smell was just like so powerful.

558
00:35:25.880 --> 00:35:27.840
He was like, man, what is that smell? Like is

559
00:35:27.880 --> 00:35:29.360
there a skunk or something around?

560
00:35:29.360 --> 00:35:31.320
Here, so.

561
00:35:33.840 --> 00:35:36.280
They what he saw, what he told me he saw,

562
00:35:36.320 --> 00:35:40.800
he turned around, they started looking at the brush. He

563
00:35:40.840 --> 00:35:44.440
said it was about close to about one hundred yards

564
00:35:44.719 --> 00:35:49.760
from their vehicle. Now, so when he they were like, okay,

565
00:35:49.760 --> 00:35:51.960
what is that? You know, they couldn't see it. So

566
00:35:52.239 --> 00:35:56.280
my buddy said, he got his scope and he put

567
00:35:56.320 --> 00:36:01.239
the scope on what he saw and what he described

568
00:36:01.280 --> 00:36:04.719
to me. He said it was about eight foot tall.

569
00:36:06.639 --> 00:36:11.440
The shoulders were like about he said, about six foot

570
00:36:11.480 --> 00:36:13.280
wide or larger.

571
00:36:14.679 --> 00:36:15.920
So when he saw this.

572
00:36:17.280 --> 00:36:22.639
Thing, he said, it had its back towards him. So

573
00:36:22.760 --> 00:36:25.800
he was telling me, he said the color, he said,

574
00:36:25.840 --> 00:36:27.760
do you know what a silver back? Like a gorilla?

575
00:36:28.840 --> 00:36:32.960
He said, it had that similar color, but it wasn't

576
00:36:33.280 --> 00:36:34.280
It wasn't a gorilla.

577
00:36:35.800 --> 00:36:41.920
So he said, like it was above like the brush

578
00:36:42.119 --> 00:36:42.679
and all that.

579
00:36:43.800 --> 00:36:46.119
It stood there for like about a.

580
00:36:46.119 --> 00:36:50.960
Few minutes and then he was just following it back

581
00:36:51.000 --> 00:36:55.960
into the woods with the scope. So when he finally

582
00:36:56.000 --> 00:36:59.559
told me this, he didn't tell me this until like.

583
00:36:59.599 --> 00:37:03.920
Maybe, uh like a few years ago. He didn't want to.

584
00:37:03.960 --> 00:37:06.840
He didn't want to tell nobody, like outside of his

585
00:37:06.880 --> 00:37:11.760
family that who saw it, because he figured that people

586
00:37:11.800 --> 00:37:15.800
would think he was you know bs in or like,

587
00:37:15.840 --> 00:37:20.719
what are you talking about? You know, right, but but yeah,

588
00:37:20.760 --> 00:37:23.960
that's what he saw, and uh, I totally believe him

589
00:37:24.039 --> 00:37:25.599
in uh oh yeah.

590
00:37:25.639 --> 00:37:31.880
So prior to that, they had went to.

591
00:37:32.000 --> 00:37:37.719
The the Rangers office to go report this. So when

592
00:37:37.760 --> 00:37:40.519
they told him that the rangers, the rangers had told

593
00:37:40.559 --> 00:37:46.119
him two weeks before that someone had else, someone else

594
00:37:46.159 --> 00:37:48.719
had put a report that they had saw a squatch

595
00:37:48.840 --> 00:37:49.440
in the area.

596
00:37:49.599 --> 00:37:53.239
The area is, uh, it's really dense. So it's in

597
00:37:53.519 --> 00:37:55.559
you know, in Arizona. Know if you ever been to Arizona,

598
00:37:56.639 --> 00:37:57.880
but it's really up north.

599
00:37:57.920 --> 00:37:59.480
They got a lot of the woods and it gets

600
00:37:59.559 --> 00:38:01.800
uh pretty thick and everything.

601
00:38:03.119 --> 00:38:07.480
I'm I'm familiar with Arizona. Up in the northern part

602
00:38:07.480 --> 00:38:13.519
of it, you have the Mogion.

603
00:38:14.760 --> 00:38:17.079
Yeah, they even call it they sometimes they even call

604
00:38:17.119 --> 00:38:18.400
it the Mogien Monster.

605
00:38:19.400 --> 00:38:22.800
Exactly. Is that where this took place?

606
00:38:24.480 --> 00:38:28.239
Yeah, okay, yeah, so there are sightings there and then

607
00:38:28.280 --> 00:38:30.400
there's the last sighting I've heard was.

608
00:38:32.400 --> 00:38:36.440
What was it San Carlos, like on the reservation.

609
00:38:37.679 --> 00:38:42.559
Okay, wow, Yeah, there's a lot.

610
00:38:42.920 --> 00:38:47.199
There's a lot of them, different sightings, you know, but

611
00:38:47.239 --> 00:38:52.079
it's all up north, you know, down here in the valley.

612
00:38:52.400 --> 00:38:55.519
You know, you don't hear nothing, but once you hear

613
00:38:55.599 --> 00:38:58.960
the you head to the the woods out there where

614
00:38:59.000 --> 00:39:05.360
it's like really no one out there, you know, that's

615
00:39:05.559 --> 00:39:09.679
that's where they see it at m And you know,

616
00:39:09.960 --> 00:39:12.760
and I believe him, you know, Like I said, I've

617
00:39:12.760 --> 00:39:16.719
known him thirty years, so I believe him. And that's

618
00:39:16.719 --> 00:39:19.320
told him, do you should have went somewhere and toward

619
00:39:19.400 --> 00:39:22.440
your story, you know, And because he you know, it

620
00:39:22.480 --> 00:39:25.719
was a it was a pretty good high powered scope.

621
00:39:26.039 --> 00:39:31.679
And he said, like the the the hair on it,

622
00:39:31.760 --> 00:39:34.280
he said, it looked more like hair like than a

623
00:39:34.599 --> 00:39:35.159
like a fur.

624
00:39:35.280 --> 00:39:36.760
It wasn't very thick at all.

625
00:39:36.920 --> 00:39:40.199
And like I said, he thinks it was an older

626
00:39:41.239 --> 00:39:43.800
sasquatch because of the way it was colored, you know,

627
00:39:43.840 --> 00:39:45.960
the silver like the like you know how we.

628
00:39:46.000 --> 00:39:50.880
How men get that salty gray beard. That's what he said. Yeah,

629
00:39:50.920 --> 00:39:55.440
that's that's what I heard. No problem.

630
00:39:55.920 --> 00:39:59.280
Thank you for having me, Yes, sir, thank you DC

631
00:39:59.440 --> 00:40:02.079
for coming up and sharing your friend's story. I appreciate it.

632
00:40:02.239 --> 00:40:05.519
You have a great rest of your night, you thinks

633
00:40:05.559 --> 00:40:11.480
appreciate everyone hanging out tonight. We make crazy awesome crowd tonight. Guys.

634
00:40:11.559 --> 00:40:17.280
Make sure that you are following this account for More Lives,

635
00:40:17.280 --> 00:40:20.599
where we get people to come up and talk about

636
00:40:20.719 --> 00:40:27.880
their bigfoot encounters. Make sure you follow. My friend Tate

637
00:40:28.159 --> 00:40:31.280
is kind of he's doing mod work right now. I

638
00:40:31.320 --> 00:40:34.920
appreciate you being here, Bud and Tate Hieronymous is a

639
00:40:34.960 --> 00:40:40.159
great bigfoot researcher where he has a documentary series called

640
00:40:40.239 --> 00:40:44.760
Sasquatch The Search for Save. You can see clips of

641
00:40:44.760 --> 00:40:47.360
that on his account, so make sure you follow Tate.

642
00:40:47.440 --> 00:40:49.880
He's in the comments right now. Also on YouTube, you

643
00:40:49.920 --> 00:40:53.519
can watch the whole episodes stuff you look up the

644
00:40:53.559 --> 00:40:57.119
Tate Hononymous YouTube channel as well. Let's see, I live

645
00:40:57.119 --> 00:40:59.480
in East Texas and my wife and I are off

646
00:40:59.480 --> 00:41:04.679
the gritter to actually live in the middle of the

647
00:41:04.760 --> 00:41:09.480
Heiny Woods. Okay, great area. Yeah, that's a super squatchy area.

648
00:41:10.639 --> 00:41:13.960
I'm going to send simply an invite to see if

649
00:41:14.320 --> 00:41:17.760
this individual is Okay, here we go, he simply thanks

650
00:41:17.800 --> 00:41:21.079
for coming up. Sounds like you've been having some things

651
00:41:21.119 --> 00:41:24.480
going on up there in your area. I feel free

652
00:41:24.519 --> 00:41:26.159
to share what you've experienced here.

653
00:41:27.360 --> 00:41:33.239
Well, it's my wife's family's property. It's forty acres. We

654
00:41:33.360 --> 00:41:35.400
decided to go live out and I talked to her

655
00:41:35.440 --> 00:41:38.760
and let's do this. You know, we're spending ways much money.

656
00:41:39.000 --> 00:41:41.280
So I'm out here. I go out here and I

657
00:41:41.320 --> 00:41:45.400
start clear land. This is the first incident, and I

658
00:41:45.440 --> 00:41:48.480
hear it's like three in the morning and there's a

659
00:41:48.480 --> 00:41:51.239
big tree that just like you could hear it splinter

660
00:41:52.880 --> 00:41:56.280
like a million tooth picks breaking. I was like, what

661
00:41:56.360 --> 00:42:01.320
the heck, no win. It happened two nights in a row.

662
00:42:01.599 --> 00:42:04.719
I went back and looked. I left that night because

663
00:42:04.880 --> 00:42:05.559
it freaked me out.

664
00:42:06.639 --> 00:42:07.519
Went back and looked.

665
00:42:07.679 --> 00:42:11.280
It was two cedar trees, big cedar trees and tall ones.

666
00:42:11.800 --> 00:42:14.679
They were broke about fifteen foot up, just the tops

667
00:42:14.679 --> 00:42:21.000
broke completely off from them. Well, once we got settled in,

668
00:42:21.679 --> 00:42:26.440
we basically had an outhouse to start with. Every time

669
00:42:26.519 --> 00:42:29.119
my wife would go out to go to the bathroom,

670
00:42:31.679 --> 00:42:35.639
you would hear it sounded almost like coyotes that turned

671
00:42:35.639 --> 00:42:40.480
into owls that in the end turned into monkey chatter.

672
00:42:41.440 --> 00:42:42.440
And there was about four.

673
00:42:42.280 --> 00:42:49.840
Of them, very very strange. We hear trees being pushed

674
00:42:49.880 --> 00:42:55.239
over constantly. One incident, when we first were out there,

675
00:42:55.480 --> 00:42:59.360
I left her there in the I had a camper,

676
00:43:00.079 --> 00:43:01.960
left her at the camper, I went into town to

677
00:43:02.000 --> 00:43:06.199
go get some stuff. I always make noises in the woods,

678
00:43:06.280 --> 00:43:10.039
like what you like what a sasquatch might make, And

679
00:43:10.119 --> 00:43:13.719
I was I always whoop. Well I left for the store.

680
00:43:14.239 --> 00:43:16.760
I come back and I couldn't find my wife. She

681
00:43:17.079 --> 00:43:21.960
was hidden hidden under the blankets in the camper. I said,

682
00:43:22.000 --> 00:43:27.400
what are you doing. It's like ninety degrees out. She said, well,

683
00:43:27.599 --> 00:43:30.519
you left, and you know that stupid noise you always

684
00:43:30.559 --> 00:43:33.800
make at the woods, whooping sound. I was like, yeah,

685
00:43:33.920 --> 00:43:36.519
She's like, as soon as you left it started up.

686
00:43:38.079 --> 00:43:42.719
I was like, oh, okay, I mean, I know it's

687
00:43:42.840 --> 00:43:45.440
I'm just jumping around trying to hit a few. My

688
00:43:45.519 --> 00:43:47.800
stories are many, but I'm trying to hit a few

689
00:43:47.800 --> 00:43:49.320
of them.

690
00:43:49.400 --> 00:43:51.559
Absolutely. The uh.

691
00:43:53.800 --> 00:43:57.400
My dog, I don't I've had her since she's a puppy,

692
00:43:57.599 --> 00:44:01.920
and she's my uh she's the protector of the property.

693
00:44:02.000 --> 00:44:03.199
You know, she's the kyote getter.

694
00:44:04.440 --> 00:44:10.000
She's not afraid, she's not afraid of anything, and she.

695
00:44:09.000 --> 00:44:12.039
Gets the job done. Well.

696
00:44:12.360 --> 00:44:16.760
If I start making whooping noises at the woods, this

697
00:44:16.840 --> 00:44:22.039
dog gets so nervous and won't even look at woods

698
00:44:22.079 --> 00:44:24.840
at all. And that's her home, that's where she lives.

699
00:44:25.239 --> 00:44:29.039
She's not an inside dog. She lives outside because she does.

700
00:44:28.880 --> 00:44:29.480
What she does.

701
00:44:30.400 --> 00:44:33.000
I start making them ooping noise, the dogs, she'll start

702
00:44:33.000 --> 00:44:36.440
pacing back and forth and won't even look in the woods.

703
00:44:36.639 --> 00:44:40.320
She don't like it. I'm gonna see.

704
00:44:41.159 --> 00:44:47.360
There's just so many of them nightly. If I'm out

705
00:44:47.360 --> 00:44:51.599
there burning the landoff, you know, burning the dead off

706
00:44:51.679 --> 00:44:57.320
the ground, the dead polige and stuff, that's when there's

707
00:44:57.400 --> 00:45:00.400
a lot of action that really happens, like they will.

708
00:45:00.480 --> 00:45:03.280
You will start hearing the owls. It starts off like

709
00:45:03.320 --> 00:45:06.280
an owl sometimes but.

710
00:45:06.199 --> 00:45:08.280
It's it's not owls.

711
00:45:09.239 --> 00:45:12.159
And they'll just chatter back and forth for a long

712
00:45:12.159 --> 00:45:17.119
time until either I put the fire out or I

713
00:45:17.159 --> 00:45:19.920
what I assume they feel that it's not going to

714
00:45:19.960 --> 00:45:24.480
cause them any harm, but it's just it'll it'll go

715
00:45:24.559 --> 00:45:25.480
on for hours.

716
00:45:25.920 --> 00:45:27.559
If I'm out there burning, it's crazy.

717
00:45:28.679 --> 00:45:32.920
And you're right, there's East Texas is like one of

718
00:45:32.960 --> 00:45:40.760
the highest uh reported sightings of of sasquatch mm hmm.

719
00:45:42.400 --> 00:45:46.199
And and it's it's just crazy. It's crazy. The noises

720
00:45:46.239 --> 00:45:46.639
we hear.

721
00:45:46.920 --> 00:45:52.440
The I thought I sometimes think I see them, but

722
00:45:52.519 --> 00:45:55.159
they're they're just like a dark because they're always way

723
00:45:55.199 --> 00:45:55.599
far away.

724
00:45:55.599 --> 00:45:58.199
When I do think I see them.

725
00:45:57.920 --> 00:46:00.920
And it's like a tall just a darkness, like standing

726
00:46:00.960 --> 00:46:02.559
next to a gee where you should be able to

727
00:46:02.559 --> 00:46:04.920
see past the tree, you don't.

728
00:46:06.639 --> 00:46:09.400
And so that's I guess that's a few of my stories.

729
00:46:09.840 --> 00:46:13.280
They go on forever, big for Society will be right

730
00:46:13.320 --> 00:46:14.639
back after these messages.

731
00:46:30.840 --> 00:46:34.760
Uh, if any if there's anybody, I'll just say this

732
00:46:34.760 --> 00:46:35.440
one last thing.

733
00:46:35.800 --> 00:46:37.360
My wife was a non believer.

734
00:46:37.440 --> 00:46:40.039
She used to laugh at me constantly when I start

735
00:46:40.079 --> 00:46:42.159
talking about her bigfoot, because I've been a I'm a

736
00:46:42.159 --> 00:46:47.559
believer of everything that people don't believe in, so I

737
00:46:47.599 --> 00:46:49.320
always talk about it. I'm always talking about and she

738
00:46:49.400 --> 00:46:51.239
used to laugh at me and poke fun at me,

739
00:46:51.440 --> 00:46:54.760
you know, and she will tell you now, and she

740
00:46:54.800 --> 00:46:57.679
will sit here and tell you the same story, and

741
00:46:58.320 --> 00:47:02.119
she she believes now, she she definitely believes that there

742
00:47:02.280 --> 00:47:05.440
is a bigfoot out there or a sasquatch or whatever

743
00:47:05.480 --> 00:47:06.519
you want to call them.

744
00:47:06.719 --> 00:47:09.400
Current day you're saying, oh.

745
00:47:09.360 --> 00:47:11.400
Yes, absolutely, we've been out here for two and a

746
00:47:11.440 --> 00:47:14.920
half years, and this kind of stuff I don't know.

747
00:47:14.960 --> 00:47:17.360
I'm not going to tell you I see them every

748
00:47:17.480 --> 00:47:21.840
day because I don't. But there is some kind of

749
00:47:21.880 --> 00:47:24.719
activity that you're you just you have to sit back

750
00:47:24.760 --> 00:47:30.280
and be like hmm, okay, well I know that. Okay,

751
00:47:30.320 --> 00:47:30.840
here we go.

752
00:47:31.760 --> 00:47:37.519
I'm sorry. I just remember this. I have had rocks.

753
00:47:36.320 --> 00:47:40.719
Thrown at me, but not hard, just thrown light enough

754
00:47:40.760 --> 00:47:43.599
to hit the back of my calf and fall.

755
00:47:43.400 --> 00:47:44.159
Down to the ground.

756
00:47:44.639 --> 00:47:46.599
And I was the first time it happened, I was like,

757
00:47:46.599 --> 00:47:48.880
what who is that? And I turned around. You know,

758
00:47:49.039 --> 00:47:51.800
it hit my calf, bounced off, but I've seen a

759
00:47:51.880 --> 00:47:54.239
rock movement. When I turn around, I was like, okay,

760
00:47:54.280 --> 00:47:56.800
that's kind of weird. Maybe I get up, turned back around,

761
00:47:56.840 --> 00:47:59.199
started walking. It happened again, and it was a little

762
00:47:59.239 --> 00:48:03.679
bit higher up on my back of my thigh. I

763
00:48:03.760 --> 00:48:06.760
was like, okay, now that's kind of that's that's not

764
00:48:06.920 --> 00:48:10.119
I'm not kicking them up. The next thing that was

765
00:48:10.159 --> 00:48:13.719
thrown at me was a and we figured out what

766
00:48:13.800 --> 00:48:16.760
it was. But it was a piece of pine bark,

767
00:48:17.239 --> 00:48:20.159
a big like a from a big tree. But it

768
00:48:20.639 --> 00:48:23.719
looked like someone had sat there and rubbed it with

769
00:48:23.760 --> 00:48:25.880
their like held it in their hand and rubbed it

770
00:48:25.920 --> 00:48:30.199
with their thumb and it was it was a perfect flat,

771
00:48:30.480 --> 00:48:35.239
almost like a blade, but smooth. And that that was

772
00:48:35.280 --> 00:48:37.880
thrown at me, and that that actually hit me in

773
00:48:37.920 --> 00:48:42.559
the back and there's nothing. There's nothing else out there.

774
00:48:42.639 --> 00:48:44.440
Like I showed it to my brother and the first

775
00:48:44.440 --> 00:48:47.159
thing he said, he's like, you sat there and rubbed

776
00:48:47.159 --> 00:48:49.840
that thing with your thumb for days. I said, no, sir,

777
00:48:49.920 --> 00:48:51.719
I did. And he's like, well, that's exactly what it

778
00:48:51.760 --> 00:48:56.000
looks like. Someone sat there and rubbed it with their

779
00:48:56.039 --> 00:48:59.199
thumb and both sides were that way smooth, smooth, and

780
00:48:59.280 --> 00:49:02.639
it was like almost like a blade, like a knife blade.

781
00:49:05.199 --> 00:49:10.159
Weird, weird vibes about this one, dude, Like, this is

782
00:49:10.239 --> 00:49:12.320
some weird stuff you're dealing with, dude.

783
00:49:13.920 --> 00:49:15.400
But you know what, I'll tell you this.

784
00:49:15.719 --> 00:49:18.039
My wife and I neither one of us, we do

785
00:49:18.119 --> 00:49:23.519
not feel threatened there. I do not feel a threat.

786
00:49:25.280 --> 00:49:28.719
I mean, there was a couple other things. There was

787
00:49:28.760 --> 00:49:31.559
one time we were and we're like I said, we're

788
00:49:31.599 --> 00:49:34.079
in the middle of the woods. We actually live in

789
00:49:34.119 --> 00:49:37.920
the middle of the woods. We have a house. The

790
00:49:37.920 --> 00:49:41.360
the Veterans Restart Ministry built us a house out there,

791
00:49:42.760 --> 00:49:45.760
and so we have a house. It's not now we do.

792
00:49:45.960 --> 00:49:47.400
We've been out here for two and a half years.

793
00:49:48.320 --> 00:49:51.119
But the while was it maybe I think it was

794
00:49:51.639 --> 00:49:56.239
maybe eight months ago. We were outside and there was

795
00:49:56.400 --> 00:50:02.239
just this such this strong, heavy smell of life, like

796
00:50:02.400 --> 00:50:04.639
we were like we walked into a leather shop.

797
00:50:05.960 --> 00:50:06.880
It was that strong.

798
00:50:08.000 --> 00:50:12.119
And it only lasted for I'm gonna say, thirty five

799
00:50:12.159 --> 00:50:15.599
minutes or so, and then it was gone like that.

800
00:50:15.679 --> 00:50:21.280
There was never no leather smell. Very strange.

801
00:50:21.840 --> 00:50:24.079
How close is your closest neighbor.

802
00:50:27.440 --> 00:50:31.960
Let's see, not close enough to where I could smell

803
00:50:32.000 --> 00:50:33.119
their dinner when they're cooking it?

804
00:50:34.159 --> 00:50:38.400
Okay, yeah, gotcha. Do you know if have you ever

805
00:50:38.440 --> 00:50:42.039
talked to people that relatively live close to you to

806
00:50:42.079 --> 00:50:44.719
see if they have stuff going on or there's something

807
00:50:44.760 --> 00:50:47.039
you just don't talk about.

808
00:50:47.559 --> 00:50:50.360
No, I talked to it about everybody, but it's everybody

809
00:50:50.360 --> 00:50:51.239
else that don't.

810
00:50:51.119 --> 00:50:52.000
Like talking about it.

811
00:50:52.840 --> 00:50:53.639
Gotcha? Yep?

812
00:50:53.920 --> 00:50:54.599
You know what I mean.

813
00:50:55.239 --> 00:50:58.000
This is my my wife's child. I mean she her

814
00:50:58.039 --> 00:51:00.480
mother grew up on this property. She grew up on

815
00:51:00.519 --> 00:51:03.800
this property. And the one thing that my wife told

816
00:51:03.800 --> 00:51:07.079
me that that was it caught me off guard of

817
00:51:07.119 --> 00:51:10.599
really a little bit. I never met her grandfather, but

818
00:51:10.800 --> 00:51:13.320
everything I've heard about him is he's not He wasn't

819
00:51:13.320 --> 00:51:17.039
a scared man except for when it came to the

820
00:51:17.119 --> 00:51:21.800
nighttime and he would not go outside on that property nowhere,

821
00:51:21.840 --> 00:51:23.480
and they lived in a house right on the off

822
00:51:23.480 --> 00:51:27.159
the highway on the same proper and he would not

823
00:51:27.320 --> 00:51:29.679
go out at night. She said he was scared to

824
00:51:29.719 --> 00:51:37.519
go out at night. He just wouldn't do it. So yeah,

825
00:51:37.960 --> 00:51:40.440
but again, like I said, we do not feel threatened.

826
00:51:40.639 --> 00:51:41.119
I don't.

827
00:51:42.880 --> 00:51:47.440
The weirdest thing that really happened was my wife. I

828
00:51:47.480 --> 00:51:50.639
was inside. She went out, she went to go to

829
00:51:50.679 --> 00:51:52.719
the bathroom and.

830
00:51:54.440 --> 00:51:55.119
She calls me.

831
00:51:56.679 --> 00:51:58.679
I answered the phone and she's like, where are you at.

832
00:51:59.400 --> 00:52:01.239
I said, I'm in the house. She's like, no, you're not.

833
00:52:01.480 --> 00:52:02.920
I said, no, you have really, I'm inside.

834
00:52:04.239 --> 00:52:06.880
I call her. Mama is what I call my wife.

835
00:52:06.880 --> 00:52:10.800
I say hey, mama, or let's go mama, whatever, that's

836
00:52:10.960 --> 00:52:15.760
what I call her. She said that something was just

837
00:52:15.880 --> 00:52:20.519
on the other side of our house and it was

838
00:52:20.599 --> 00:52:24.559
like it was clear's day. She said it said hey, Mama,

839
00:52:25.639 --> 00:52:28.400
and she thought it was me And it wasn't nobody

840
00:52:28.400 --> 00:52:30.880
there because people don't come out. They you know, this

841
00:52:31.000 --> 00:52:34.880
is Texas. You don't go fooling around like that. But somebody, yeah,

842
00:52:35.079 --> 00:52:40.039
it will be her, So it wasn't no person. Things

843
00:52:40.079 --> 00:52:44.559
like that happen all the time. Out here to this day.

844
00:52:44.760 --> 00:52:49.039
If you start hearing that from the woods, don't go

845
00:52:49.119 --> 00:52:53.239
in the woods please, I mean, well.

846
00:52:53.119 --> 00:52:55.159
And see that's my wife. She gets so upset with

847
00:52:55.199 --> 00:52:56.320
me because I do it all the time.

848
00:52:56.719 --> 00:53:00.199
Like I go because we have a creak of our

849
00:53:00.239 --> 00:53:03.639
fresh water spring creek that that's where I get our water,

850
00:53:03.719 --> 00:53:07.039
our water from So I mean, I bring up thirty

851
00:53:07.079 --> 00:53:10.320
gallons a day every day. But there's times where sometimes

852
00:53:10.320 --> 00:53:14.840
you gotta go to there, or you may sometimes I'll

853
00:53:14.840 --> 00:53:17.599
see lights back there and I'm like the sea lights,

854
00:53:17.599 --> 00:53:18.519
so I'll go down there.

855
00:53:20.639 --> 00:53:23.480
But again, I don't feel threatened. Man, I did.

856
00:53:23.519 --> 00:53:27.000
There's no There's no part of me that that gets

857
00:53:27.039 --> 00:53:29.599
the chills, you know, like how you would if.

858
00:53:29.280 --> 00:53:30.679
There was a threat.

859
00:53:31.199 --> 00:53:32.840
Mm hmm. Sure.

860
00:53:32.880 --> 00:53:35.320
I just don't get I don't feel that. I don't

861
00:53:35.320 --> 00:53:38.239
feel that in nor does she. She don't feel that

862
00:53:38.280 --> 00:53:41.199
way either. However, she will not go down in new

863
00:53:41.239 --> 00:53:44.599
woods at night. Ever. She thinks I'm crazy for doing it.

864
00:53:45.480 --> 00:53:50.199
Yeah right, oh wow, this is this is absolutely wild.

865
00:53:51.960 --> 00:53:53.679
That's some of my story. Where are you from?

866
00:53:54.760 --> 00:53:56.519
I'm Central Iowa.

867
00:53:58.400 --> 00:54:03.679
See now, I used to live in Cedar Rapids, Iowa, Animos, Iowa.

868
00:54:03.920 --> 00:54:11.760
East Enough out there there, there's some pretty strange stuff.

869
00:54:11.920 --> 00:54:15.679
I never heard a lot, but I've seen signs of

870
00:54:16.400 --> 00:54:18.559
why is that tree broken? Where it's broken?

871
00:54:19.400 --> 00:54:21.360
Yep, exactly healthy tree.

872
00:54:21.679 --> 00:54:23.199
Yeah.

873
00:54:23.239 --> 00:54:25.880
So yeah, there's a lot of bigfoot stuff in northeast

874
00:54:25.920 --> 00:54:29.360
and southeast Iowa. But sir, do you would you be

875
00:54:29.440 --> 00:54:33.400
able to send me an email my emails up there

876
00:54:33.599 --> 00:54:36.360
just and say like, hey, I'm the guy talked to

877
00:54:36.360 --> 00:54:39.000
you from East Texas with the stuff going on as property,

878
00:54:39.400 --> 00:54:41.119
just in case I have a question for you in

879
00:54:41.159 --> 00:54:41.639
the future.

880
00:54:43.199 --> 00:54:45.440
I well, definitely, I think I've been following you for

881
00:54:45.480 --> 00:54:48.280
a while now, so I will definitely send you my

882
00:54:48.719 --> 00:54:52.719
email address, and yes, you can contact me anytime.

883
00:54:53.840 --> 00:54:55.960
Awesome. Well, thank you for coming up and for Sharon.

884
00:54:56.000 --> 00:54:57.519
I appreciate and be safe out there.

885
00:54:58.400 --> 00:55:00.000
Don thank you for having me. Goodbye.

886
00:55:00.199 --> 00:55:07.519
All right, let's see we got just has something to

887
00:55:07.559 --> 00:55:15.639
share here. Let's bring them up. Hey, just how's it going?

888
00:55:16.199 --> 00:55:18.239
Thanks for coming up. How are you doing today, sir?

889
00:55:18.920 --> 00:55:21.480
Well, I'm doing good. I'm doing good. Sorry I couldn't

890
00:55:21.480 --> 00:55:23.320
get on the other day, but I had to wait

891
00:55:23.320 --> 00:55:24.039
till last night.

892
00:55:25.360 --> 00:55:27.880
Oh yeah, no problems. So feel free to share what

893
00:55:28.599 --> 00:55:30.000
you've experienced out there.

894
00:55:30.599 --> 00:55:33.000
Well, you know, you say you work with the Bigfoot.

895
00:55:33.960 --> 00:55:36.440
I can't remember their names, the ones that first came

896
00:55:36.480 --> 00:55:39.960
out and started doing it, but they went up to

897
00:55:40.039 --> 00:55:43.760
Leadville and they were talking to Trehiel. He used to

898
00:55:44.039 --> 00:55:50.760
his brother used to do my carpets. And anyway, me

899
00:55:50.840 --> 00:55:52.719
and a couple of my buddies because he's seen him

900
00:55:52.719 --> 00:55:55.039
down on the bottom part or Albert there. His dad

901
00:55:55.039 --> 00:55:58.280
owned all bought some property out there. But anyway, from

902
00:55:58.320 --> 00:56:00.800
my experience, me and a couple of buddies one day

903
00:56:00.920 --> 00:56:03.360
decided to go up to the Mountain Zion, which is

904
00:56:04.360 --> 00:56:08.239
off by twenty four when you're headed towards Vail and

905
00:56:08.280 --> 00:56:12.199
then yeah and Colorado there and well when you get

906
00:56:12.199 --> 00:56:13.719
down to the river and you come up on the

907
00:56:13.760 --> 00:56:15.800
other side, they got got a turn off there. I

908
00:56:15.880 --> 00:56:17.480
used to work for the Forest Service up there for

909
00:56:17.519 --> 00:56:21.239
a while. But anyway, we decided to go up onto

910
00:56:21.239 --> 00:56:25.480
the Mountain Zion. So we took about takes about twenty

911
00:56:25.559 --> 00:56:28.039
thirty minutes to get up there. But anyway, we got

912
00:56:28.119 --> 00:56:32.039
up to the top and it flattens out, and so

913
00:56:32.079 --> 00:56:33.960
you can get out and you can walk over and

914
00:56:33.960 --> 00:56:37.159
look down into the lake. And that was one of

915
00:56:37.159 --> 00:56:40.000
the lakes we stuck with the Yellowstone cutthroat. But anyway,

916
00:56:40.599 --> 00:56:42.239
me and my buddy were there. He decided to go

917
00:56:42.320 --> 00:56:44.199
back over because there was three of us and one

918
00:56:44.239 --> 00:56:46.280
of them barrel in. Them stayed over at the truck

919
00:56:46.360 --> 00:56:49.320
and I was sitting there looking down at the lake

920
00:56:49.440 --> 00:56:51.400
and it's not really a lake. It's like a pond

921
00:56:51.480 --> 00:56:54.840
up there. But anyway, it's down off of the cliffs,

922
00:56:55.239 --> 00:56:59.360
and I've seen something move right there on the water,

923
00:56:59.639 --> 00:57:01.559
right on right on the short part of the water,

924
00:57:01.679 --> 00:57:05.320
and I looked down and it stood up and it

925
00:57:05.440 --> 00:57:07.519
was like, I know a lot of people say they

926
00:57:08.039 --> 00:57:11.360
see the black ones, Well this one wasn't. And he

927
00:57:11.559 --> 00:57:14.880
was like, I don't know eight and I ate something.

928
00:57:15.480 --> 00:57:18.320
He was huge, but he knew I was there. He

929
00:57:18.360 --> 00:57:20.440
looked up at me. He could see me up on

930
00:57:20.480 --> 00:57:23.920
the cliff part. Well, they got like they got like

931
00:57:23.960 --> 00:57:26.159
a rock slid over on the other side, coming down

932
00:57:26.199 --> 00:57:29.159
into the pond or up into the buck eye ache.

933
00:57:29.159 --> 00:57:30.880
But like I said, it ain't like a huge lake.

934
00:57:31.639 --> 00:57:33.519
But anyway, he looked up and he was looking at me,

935
00:57:33.559 --> 00:57:35.480
and I was looking at him. And my buddy Greg

936
00:57:35.519 --> 00:57:38.679
had already headed back hold to go back over to

937
00:57:38.719 --> 00:57:42.000
the jeep, but it wasn't like I watched him and

938
00:57:42.039 --> 00:57:45.719
I seen him through the bushes for two seconds. I

939
00:57:45.800 --> 00:57:48.920
watched him, and still he started instead of going towards

940
00:57:48.960 --> 00:57:50.880
you would think he would go towards the because we're

941
00:57:50.960 --> 00:57:53.320
up a timberline. You think he would have went over

942
00:57:53.360 --> 00:57:56.760
towards the timberline. But he didn't. He started coming up

943
00:57:56.800 --> 00:58:00.559
the rockslide off to, you know, on the other side.

944
00:58:01.679 --> 00:58:04.440
And I'm a mountain boy, I mean, I know what

945
00:58:04.519 --> 00:58:08.440
it takes to climbing up my former marine. But that

946
00:58:08.639 --> 00:58:10.920
thing started climbing up the side of that hill like

947
00:58:11.000 --> 00:58:13.599
I ain't never seen nothing. So I sat there and

948
00:58:13.760 --> 00:58:17.519
washing him for about right at about fifteen minutes. I figured,

949
00:58:17.559 --> 00:58:19.039
you know, I had enough sense to know that if

950
00:58:19.400 --> 00:58:21.119
he can get up that side of that mountain, that

951
00:58:21.239 --> 00:58:24.079
rockside like that, you don't want to be there when

952
00:58:24.119 --> 00:58:26.280
he hits the top, you know, because we were wouldn't

953
00:58:26.280 --> 00:58:27.920
have been that much for him to come around. So

954
00:58:28.320 --> 00:58:31.360
that's when I left and I took off. I went

955
00:58:31.440 --> 00:58:33.920
back told my buddy that told Greg, I said, did

956
00:58:33.960 --> 00:58:36.880
you see that? And he goes, what he didn't see?

957
00:58:36.920 --> 00:58:39.280
That thing done over there? And he goes, nope, I said, well,

958
00:58:40.199 --> 00:58:42.880
it was right after he walked off that it came up. Now,

959
00:58:42.960 --> 00:58:46.039
the interesting part of this is, okay that we that

960
00:58:46.239 --> 00:58:48.679
right there a mountain zion is like on one side

961
00:58:48.679 --> 00:58:53.280
of where the climax on living in Company is climax mine. Okay, Well,

962
00:58:53.360 --> 00:58:55.199
you were always able to go up if you went

963
00:58:55.280 --> 00:58:58.960
up over to the top part there on the pass,

964
00:58:59.559 --> 00:59:01.039
you could act should go over there and fish and

965
00:59:01.320 --> 00:59:04.079
Chalk Lake. Right, they had the access into there, so

966
00:59:04.119 --> 00:59:07.239
they never really closed those gates. They couldn't because they

967
00:59:07.280 --> 00:59:11.320
had just leased that property off of the government. So anyway,

968
00:59:11.880 --> 00:59:14.719
about a week and a half later, I got to

969
00:59:14.800 --> 00:59:16.400
think and I said, well, I'm going to go down

970
00:59:16.480 --> 00:59:18.920
through there off to the other side. Nope, they closed

971
00:59:18.920 --> 00:59:21.519
it up. So I said, wait a minute. I stopped,

972
00:59:21.519 --> 00:59:23.679
went up through the climax to the part and I

973
00:59:23.719 --> 00:59:25.800
asked them, how come we can't get bound into Chalk

974
00:59:25.920 --> 00:59:29.719
Lake anymore? I said, Now it's just closed. I said, wow,

975
00:59:29.719 --> 00:59:31.519
I didn't think you could close that, but all right,

976
00:59:32.159 --> 00:59:34.079
so I figured I'd come back over on the other side.

977
00:59:34.079 --> 00:59:36.800
It's Camp Hill, right, you're on twenty four. You come down,

978
00:59:36.840 --> 00:59:39.360
it's the old ten Mountain Division used to be able

979
00:59:39.400 --> 00:59:41.519
to drive in there too, right, and you could go

980
00:59:41.559 --> 00:59:42.920
all the way to the backside and go up and

981
00:59:42.960 --> 00:59:45.079
through there because there's some really good fishing up in there.

982
00:59:45.280 --> 00:59:48.519
Up in the put Beaver ponds. They had dug a tunnel.

983
00:59:48.639 --> 00:59:51.320
I mean they had dug a trench that you couldn't

984
00:59:51.360 --> 00:59:53.199
get through. I didn't care. I don't care what kind

985
00:59:53.199 --> 00:59:55.360
of a vehicle you had, So they cut that whole

986
00:59:56.039 --> 00:59:58.320
access off. This is about three weeks after I seen

987
00:59:58.400 --> 01:00:04.320
this name. Evidently somebody else must have, because yeah, they

988
01:00:04.400 --> 01:00:08.039
added and they're still to this day they've cut access

989
01:00:08.159 --> 01:00:10.320
back there. There's one guy, he was from Texas, and

990
01:00:10.360 --> 01:00:13.360
I think he had some agreements down there where he

991
01:00:13.360 --> 01:00:15.639
could take him up there four wheeling and you know

992
01:00:15.800 --> 01:00:19.280
those little what they were for biting before things. He's

993
01:00:19.280 --> 01:00:21.239
the only one still allowed to go back through there

994
01:00:21.239 --> 01:00:24.079
and that and the winter time he does he does

995
01:00:24.199 --> 01:00:26.159
like skiing excursions. Back to him, he's the only one

996
01:00:26.159 --> 01:00:28.480
allowed back up in there. They shut that whole access

997
01:00:28.519 --> 01:00:31.960
off to that whole thing. And you're talking about many

998
01:00:32.039 --> 01:00:35.840
many miles. So somebody's seen something and they cut off

999
01:00:35.920 --> 01:00:38.039
total access for you to you can look it up.

1000
01:00:38.119 --> 01:00:41.679
I'll guarantee you can't get back in there. So I

1001
01:00:41.800 --> 01:00:43.599
don't know why. And you know, I was born or

1002
01:00:43.599 --> 01:00:45.599
I was born and probably raised up there in Ladville,

1003
01:00:46.360 --> 01:00:48.559
and uh, we always had access to that. And it

1004
01:00:48.760 --> 01:00:51.480
was just shortly after I seen what I saw that

1005
01:00:51.599 --> 01:00:53.239
they cut it all off. You can't even get back

1006
01:00:53.320 --> 01:00:55.920
up in there. So it had to be the government

1007
01:00:56.000 --> 01:00:56.480
to shut it on.

1008
01:00:59.119 --> 01:01:03.280
It would make so you you were saying that you

1009
01:01:03.519 --> 01:01:06.559
had you were able to see for about fifteen minutes.

1010
01:01:07.239 --> 01:01:09.119
Yeah, well no, I watched him for a little longer

1011
01:01:09.159 --> 01:01:11.079
than that. I took him. It took him about fifteen

1012
01:01:11.079 --> 01:01:12.760
minutes get up there, because he kept looking at him.

1013
01:01:12.760 --> 01:01:15.679
He's still stay okay, you didn't buy the shore. And

1014
01:01:15.719 --> 01:01:18.199
when he well, he was doing something into water. But

1015
01:01:18.360 --> 01:01:21.079
you know what, like everybody always says, oh they're black

1016
01:01:21.599 --> 01:01:24.119
or that, No, you know, it was wild because when

1017
01:01:24.119 --> 01:01:26.280
he stood up, and like I said, I got a

1018
01:01:26.320 --> 01:01:30.559
pretty good sight. He uh, he was huge. The only

1019
01:01:30.639 --> 01:01:32.679
thing that I could see the kind offset because he

1020
01:01:32.760 --> 01:01:37.000
was like orange, like an orangutan orange. But then the

1021
01:01:37.079 --> 01:01:39.800
only thing I could really see see was right where

1022
01:01:39.840 --> 01:01:41.719
his chest. Well you can see a little bit of skin,

1023
01:01:41.800 --> 01:01:43.039
you know, the hair was there, but you can see

1024
01:01:43.039 --> 01:01:46.119
a little bit of skin on each side of his chest.

1025
01:01:47.079 --> 01:01:49.079
And it was like, but he'sat there and watched me. Man,

1026
01:01:49.159 --> 01:01:51.880
he's watching me, and I was watching him. And then

1027
01:01:52.000 --> 01:01:53.840
but like I said, you know, you would think he

1028
01:01:53.880 --> 01:01:57.480
would be afraid or not want to be seen. But

1029
01:01:57.599 --> 01:02:00.519
he didn't do that. He went right up the rocks,

1030
01:02:00.639 --> 01:02:03.039
like because he could easily slip down into the you know,

1031
01:02:03.159 --> 01:02:06.000
the timberline there, but he didn't do it. I guess

1032
01:02:06.400 --> 01:02:10.960
he wasn't let's say, upset by my well, he was

1033
01:02:11.039 --> 01:02:13.519
moving off cautiously, but he wasn't upset, you know what

1034
01:02:13.559 --> 01:02:15.760
I mean. But he just keept looking back, looking at

1035
01:02:15.920 --> 01:02:18.880
looking at It's like, so I thought it was pretty

1036
01:02:18.920 --> 01:02:21.760
interesting anyway. But I'll tell you what. That was the

1037
01:02:21.840 --> 01:02:23.920
day that I believe, because until then I didn't.

1038
01:02:24.239 --> 01:02:27.519
I mean, if you're ever going to believe, that's the

1039
01:02:27.599 --> 01:02:31.199
day for sure, big for society will be right back

1040
01:02:31.280 --> 01:02:52.559
after these messages. Do you remember any details about looking

1041
01:02:52.639 --> 01:02:55.280
at the face of what you saw that day?

1042
01:02:56.239 --> 01:02:58.679
I could see his face, you know, Yeah, he had

1043
01:02:58.719 --> 01:03:03.440
the long hair and you know how the little be shuffled,

1044
01:03:03.519 --> 01:03:07.679
let's see, but yeah, I could see his faith and

1045
01:03:07.840 --> 01:03:09.679
he did you know, a lot of these guys get

1046
01:03:09.679 --> 01:03:11.880
it pretty correct on what they look. But you know,

1047
01:03:11.960 --> 01:03:13.800
when they were talking till he was talking about I

1048
01:03:13.880 --> 01:03:17.159
think he said he was black one. But where uh,

1049
01:03:18.320 --> 01:03:20.880
where his dad owned that land and where he inherited

1050
01:03:20.920 --> 01:03:23.400
it when he let them dogs out. I remember that

1051
01:03:23.480 --> 01:03:25.159
story too. He had never told me. But like I said,

1052
01:03:25.199 --> 01:03:27.280
his brother was used to do our carpets because we

1053
01:03:27.400 --> 01:03:30.599
managed up there, me and my wife and I was

1054
01:03:30.719 --> 01:03:33.719
I went to middle school there from middle school on

1055
01:03:33.920 --> 01:03:37.239
up and uh, but we used to go camping where

1056
01:03:37.280 --> 01:03:40.880
he was talking about his dad down by the the

1057
01:03:40.960 --> 01:03:43.199
golf course and then it takes around over to the

1058
01:03:43.280 --> 01:03:46.039
fish hatchery because that property he has is right off

1059
01:03:46.079 --> 01:03:48.239
the other side of that. But we if you go

1060
01:03:48.320 --> 01:03:50.239
up a little bit down where the golf course is

1061
01:03:50.280 --> 01:03:52.199
the backside of that, you can get to the backside

1062
01:03:52.199 --> 01:03:55.440
of Turquoise Lake, which the dam is there, and you

1063
01:03:55.519 --> 01:03:57.519
can come into the back. I can tell you another

1064
01:03:57.599 --> 01:03:59.920
story over there too. That guy said he was right

1065
01:04:00.079 --> 01:04:01.239
the book. I don't know if he ever did it,

1066
01:04:01.320 --> 01:04:03.960
but you could just go back into that part. And

1067
01:04:04.199 --> 01:04:07.760
you know, at night, you don't, you know, we're young boys.

1068
01:04:07.800 --> 01:04:09.840
We didn't want to get creaked out, but oh yeah,

1069
01:04:10.599 --> 01:04:12.719
you get a feeling, you know, when they're around, everything

1070
01:04:12.800 --> 01:04:15.840
goes sign it and I mean way silent, and you

1071
01:04:15.880 --> 01:04:18.719
can just feel it. And I never did like camping

1072
01:04:18.800 --> 01:04:21.440
back there. And that's not far off where he said

1073
01:04:21.480 --> 01:04:23.880
that he's seen where he let his dogs off and

1074
01:04:23.960 --> 01:04:25.920
his dogs went down in and ran them into the woods.

1075
01:04:25.960 --> 01:04:29.360
Because behind there is I can't remember his name, but

1076
01:04:29.800 --> 01:04:32.960
his family been there forever. He was a sheriff deputy.

1077
01:04:33.840 --> 01:04:36.960
His dad owned that property where wrechre. He'll bought a

1078
01:04:37.000 --> 01:04:40.519
little slice of it. But anywhere back in through there,

1079
01:04:40.519 --> 01:04:43.039
if you go in camping and that you just never

1080
01:04:43.159 --> 01:04:47.719
felt right. You know, you just carry your pew pew,

1081
01:04:47.920 --> 01:04:51.079
you know what I mean, because you know, right, yeah,

1082
01:04:51.320 --> 01:04:54.119
I guess yeah, there's nothing there was something that just

1083
01:04:54.280 --> 01:04:54.719
wasn't right.

1084
01:04:56.559 --> 01:05:00.760
Sounds like this area has a whole bunch of activity

1085
01:05:00.880 --> 01:05:01.159
going on.

1086
01:05:02.199 --> 01:05:04.599
I think so too, because I mean, for real, I

1087
01:05:04.719 --> 01:05:06.800
used to like fishing and Chalco Lake, but they cut

1088
01:05:06.880 --> 01:05:08.800
the whole road. You got to understand, Like if you

1089
01:05:08.840 --> 01:05:11.440
go up to the top of Climax Mine, that's where

1090
01:05:11.440 --> 01:05:13.800
the entrance is. On one side, it comes out on

1091
01:05:13.920 --> 01:05:15.639
the Tenth Mountain division of what used to be the

1092
01:05:15.719 --> 01:05:18.840
camp hill with one that they shut down, and you

1093
01:05:18.880 --> 01:05:21.199
could drive that all the way through there, and so

1094
01:05:21.360 --> 01:05:23.519
it would take you through these really cool beaver ponds

1095
01:05:23.559 --> 01:05:25.119
and then of course you're coming off the hill there.

1096
01:05:25.159 --> 01:05:27.239
So it was just beautiful down in there. But I

1097
01:05:27.320 --> 01:05:29.679
remember another time being down in there with my wife,

1098
01:05:29.760 --> 01:05:34.400
or my wife and my daughter, and I went to

1099
01:05:34.480 --> 01:05:37.360
go fishing back up in there to hit those ponds.

1100
01:05:38.039 --> 01:05:41.159
And so my wife got out and told me she

1101
01:05:41.280 --> 01:05:42.960
was going to walk my daughter down the road aways,

1102
01:05:42.960 --> 01:05:44.239
and I said, okay, well, I'm just go hit the

1103
01:05:44.280 --> 01:05:46.880
ponds real quick. They ate that far off, just got

1104
01:05:46.960 --> 01:05:50.039
to go through the wheelers, And so I got I

1105
01:05:50.119 --> 01:05:51.679
started to walk through there, and she took off a

1106
01:05:51.760 --> 01:05:53.599
walking with her, and I, you know, by the time

1107
01:05:53.679 --> 01:05:55.960
I got my pole and everything already, I went to

1108
01:05:56.039 --> 01:05:57.440
walk off through there. And I live up on the

1109
01:05:57.480 --> 01:06:02.119
side of that hill, and that part of the forest

1110
01:06:02.199 --> 01:06:04.280
or right out right you know that road going down interview.

1111
01:06:04.440 --> 01:06:06.840
You've got the old growth, you.

1112
01:06:06.880 --> 01:06:07.239
Know what I mean.

1113
01:06:07.280 --> 01:06:09.239
You can see splatches up up on the side of

1114
01:06:09.239 --> 01:06:11.639
the hill and then getting up into the timbers, and

1115
01:06:11.960 --> 01:06:15.239
there was a group of trees in there, and this

1116
01:06:15.440 --> 01:06:17.599
is another one where and that's in the same area.

1117
01:06:17.639 --> 01:06:19.519
But actually I got to go it was through that

1118
01:06:19.719 --> 01:06:22.280
road that they cut off. I was about halfway through

1119
01:06:23.159 --> 01:06:28.440
and I looked up and I've seen this thing, this tree,

1120
01:06:28.679 --> 01:06:30.199
but I mean it was in the middle of the tree,

1121
01:06:30.559 --> 01:06:32.239
the group of trees, but it was the middle tree,

1122
01:06:32.880 --> 01:06:35.320
and that thing was just moving, man, And you could

1123
01:06:35.360 --> 01:06:38.039
see it just woa, whoa, whoa wah. And it's like,

1124
01:06:38.199 --> 01:06:40.559
there ain't no way, there's nothing. Because I even went

1125
01:06:40.639 --> 01:06:43.079
after that, I called down to the to the UH

1126
01:06:43.800 --> 01:06:45.800
Forest Service and I asked him, I say, you ever

1127
01:06:45.880 --> 01:06:51.440
heard any grizzlies being in Colorado? And he's like, no,

1128
01:06:51.599 --> 01:06:53.679
I don't think so. I said, well, I've never heard

1129
01:06:53.679 --> 01:06:55.360
of it either, I said. But unable to move that

1130
01:06:55.440 --> 01:06:57.519
tree that I just seem because I told him the story,

1131
01:06:58.400 --> 01:07:01.199
I said, and able to move that tree, that thing

1132
01:07:01.239 --> 01:07:04.400
would have had to been way huge, you know what

1133
01:07:04.480 --> 01:07:07.480
I'm saying. I said, I don't even think of rely. Yeah,

1134
01:07:07.920 --> 01:07:10.239
so there's been a few for instances with me in there,

1135
01:07:10.239 --> 01:07:12.920
and that was just me growing up around there because

1136
01:07:12.920 --> 01:07:15.280
that ain't far that's the road going down towards Vale,

1137
01:07:15.679 --> 01:07:20.679
you know. But yeah, and it was all within that area. Yep.

1138
01:07:20.760 --> 01:07:22.280
When they cut that off used to be the old

1139
01:07:22.360 --> 01:07:24.360
road going up to Leadville, and then they cut another one.

1140
01:07:24.440 --> 01:07:27.119
They used to work for the Department of Transportation for

1141
01:07:27.280 --> 01:07:31.280
Colorado up there out of Patrol nineteen. But anyway, yeah,

1142
01:07:31.280 --> 01:07:33.559
there's a lot of weird stuff, but I you know,

1143
01:07:33.920 --> 01:07:35.920
to me, it wasn't weird after that because once I

1144
01:07:36.039 --> 01:07:38.320
seen what I seen, I see mean, you can't undersee it.

1145
01:07:38.519 --> 01:07:40.719
You know, it's like, okay, now I believe.

1146
01:07:42.440 --> 01:07:45.920
Yeah, now you're on board and there's no.

1147
01:07:47.440 --> 01:07:49.480
I started telling people here and there, and they all

1148
01:07:49.519 --> 01:07:51.199
looked at me like I was crazy. So I just

1149
01:07:51.280 --> 01:07:55.000
quit telling the story. But you know, like you said,

1150
01:07:55.159 --> 01:07:58.079
Canada see and once it's taken out, you can't come

1151
01:07:58.119 --> 01:08:01.400
and tell me I didn't see it. But that was

1152
01:08:01.440 --> 01:08:04.519
before god, yeah, it was before you had the you know,

1153
01:08:04.800 --> 01:08:08.679
cameras on your phone, come sixty six. But you know,

1154
01:08:08.760 --> 01:08:10.559
it ain't like I'm coming here and being crazy because

1155
01:08:10.559 --> 01:08:12.000
everybody looks at you, Oh you're a nut.

1156
01:08:12.119 --> 01:08:13.199
No, I just know what I say.

1157
01:08:13.239 --> 01:08:14.639
And you know, I've met a lot of good fellows

1158
01:08:14.960 --> 01:08:17.000
because I got I got them stickers all over my

1159
01:08:17.079 --> 01:08:18.880
trug every go where do you get?

1160
01:08:19.079 --> 01:08:20.000
Yeah, that's all it takes.

1161
01:08:20.640 --> 01:08:22.239
Yeah, it's all it takes. And then you know what

1162
01:08:22.319 --> 01:08:24.520
the sad part is, you have to sit there and

1163
01:08:24.600 --> 01:08:26.079
try to convince them. I said, well, I'm not here

1164
01:08:26.119 --> 01:08:27.680
to convince you. All I'm here to do is tell

1165
01:08:27.680 --> 01:08:29.840
you the story. See, I know what I saw that

1166
01:08:30.319 --> 01:08:32.079
you can't that take you take that out of me,

1167
01:08:32.560 --> 01:08:34.720
and I can't see you know, you can't see what

1168
01:08:34.800 --> 01:08:37.399
I seen if you weren't there. I said, But for

1169
01:08:37.560 --> 01:08:40.039
somebody being of a rational mind, you know what I mean,

1170
01:08:40.119 --> 01:08:43.239
and worked in positions of authority, I'm not going to

1171
01:08:43.279 --> 01:08:45.279
sit here and tell you no, I didn't see it,

1172
01:08:45.319 --> 01:08:47.199
because I did. And I said, and if you can

1173
01:08:47.239 --> 01:08:49.199
give me a reason why they shut that land down,

1174
01:08:50.159 --> 01:08:52.039
you know, I was sure to be interested because you

1175
01:08:52.119 --> 01:08:53.479
cut all a lot, you cut off a lot of

1176
01:08:53.520 --> 01:08:55.119
good fishing in the state of Colorado.

1177
01:08:55.439 --> 01:08:55.640
You know.

1178
01:08:56.760 --> 01:09:00.239
Yeah, there you go. Yeah, well, sir, I APPREI shit

1179
01:09:00.279 --> 01:09:02.840
you coming up and sharing what you experienced in that

1180
01:09:02.960 --> 01:09:06.000
area of Colorado. Thank you, no problem.

1181
01:09:06.079 --> 01:09:08.119
I just wanted to get that out to you. You

1182
01:09:08.279 --> 01:09:11.680
have a wonderful evening, my friend YouTube sir, thank you.

1183
01:09:12.479 --> 01:09:13.239
Oh no problem.

1184
01:09:14.000 --> 01:09:17.880
Crystal says, our reservation has some crazy altercations that made

1185
01:09:17.960 --> 01:09:22.600
up local papers. I've heard one but didn't look. I'm

1186
01:09:22.640 --> 01:09:26.960
going to see if Crystal is available to share what

1187
01:09:29.000 --> 01:09:33.079
she is referring to any Crystal, this is Jeremiah. Thanks

1188
01:09:33.119 --> 01:09:36.119
for coming up. You're saying you're having some things that

1189
01:09:36.199 --> 01:09:40.760
were happening on your reservation regarding big folks.

1190
01:09:42.159 --> 01:09:46.279
Yeah, well, we've had a lot of stuff that doesn't

1191
01:09:46.359 --> 01:09:53.680
make the paper, but but we've also had things that happen.

1192
01:09:53.840 --> 01:09:57.159
And the instances that I want to talk about, we're

1193
01:09:57.239 --> 01:10:00.359
from when I lived there, so this was probably probably,

1194
01:10:01.720 --> 01:10:04.600
you know, the mid nineties, I would.

1195
01:10:04.359 --> 01:10:07.039
Say, I live in Nevada now.

1196
01:10:07.079 --> 01:10:12.000
I used to live in the Pacific Northwest near Bellingham, Washington,

1197
01:10:12.800 --> 01:10:13.960
on a reservation.

1198
01:10:13.680 --> 01:10:18.319
Called Lummy and oh boy, here we go. Yep.

1199
01:10:19.359 --> 01:10:21.520
Yeah, they were having a lot.

1200
01:10:22.680 --> 01:10:22.880
Well.

1201
01:10:24.359 --> 01:10:28.199
I think that sometimes tribal people tend to not tell

1202
01:10:28.640 --> 01:10:32.239
outside communities, like what happens.

1203
01:10:32.640 --> 01:10:34.800
When there is a.

1204
01:10:37.239 --> 01:10:42.439
Rash of like a lot of people seeing them when

1205
01:10:42.479 --> 01:10:44.800
they're in the area, active in the area.

1206
01:10:44.840 --> 01:10:45.399
I should say.

1207
01:10:46.000 --> 01:10:49.319
But my grandma and like older people used to set

1208
01:10:49.560 --> 01:10:51.279
plates of food out and stuff.

1209
01:10:51.000 --> 01:10:52.920
For them, so they would feed them.

1210
01:10:53.520 --> 01:10:55.960
You know, if you went fishing, then you put some

1211
01:10:56.039 --> 01:10:58.640
fish aside, and she would take it back by the woods,

1212
01:10:58.680 --> 01:11:02.560
and she would leave it and like, okay, old people,

1213
01:11:02.640 --> 01:11:07.319
maybe they're like feeding, you know, porcupine dogs, skunks, you know,

1214
01:11:07.439 --> 01:11:09.920
different stuff like that. And they wouldn't really talk about

1215
01:11:09.960 --> 01:11:15.720
it unless they knew that they weren't going to be

1216
01:11:15.880 --> 01:11:17.079
mocked or laughed at.

1217
01:11:17.800 --> 01:11:18.119
And so.

1218
01:11:19.880 --> 01:11:22.560
My mom and my dad and my grandma were sitting

1219
01:11:22.600 --> 01:11:26.039
in the living room this one time, and my dad

1220
01:11:26.159 --> 01:11:30.640
start talking about when they had been down fishing by

1221
01:11:30.680 --> 01:11:34.199
the river. And so I was kind of sitting there

1222
01:11:34.239 --> 01:11:38.640
and I'm younger, probably, you know, almost a teenager, and

1223
01:11:38.760 --> 01:11:40.479
I was kind of sitting in the background, and I

1224
01:11:40.520 --> 01:11:42.960
don't think they knew I was there. And I was

1225
01:11:42.960 --> 01:11:45.640
sitting there just listening to them on the back porch,

1226
01:11:45.800 --> 01:11:50.079
and they were in the living room and they were saying, oh, yeah,

1227
01:11:50.239 --> 01:11:53.039
remember we were down by the river and we were

1228
01:11:53.119 --> 01:11:55.279
cooking and whatnot. And they were telling this story to

1229
01:11:55.359 --> 01:12:02.439
my mom. My mom is originally from Nevada, so they

1230
01:12:02.479 --> 01:12:05.840
were sitting in there talking and they go, oh, yeah,

1231
01:12:06.359 --> 01:12:09.640
tell her the story that made the Bellingham Harald. And

1232
01:12:10.800 --> 01:12:13.039
she's kind of sitting there listening to them. Well, they

1233
01:12:13.079 --> 01:12:16.960
were down there fishing and when they put out fishing nets.

1234
01:12:17.079 --> 01:12:21.439
They would like tie these poles out almost halfway across

1235
01:12:21.520 --> 01:12:24.520
the river, and then they would have bells on the

1236
01:12:24.600 --> 01:12:26.880
top of the poles, so when the fish would hit

1237
01:12:26.920 --> 01:12:29.119
the nets, it would jingle. It would make like a

1238
01:12:29.199 --> 01:12:33.239
jingling noise. And like four of these guys had their

1239
01:12:33.279 --> 01:12:35.119
nets out on the river and they're all just sitting

1240
01:12:35.159 --> 01:12:38.800
there drinking beer and like, you know, talking and whatnot.

1241
01:12:38.840 --> 01:12:43.000
And it's about three am around there, and they were

1242
01:12:43.079 --> 01:12:45.359
kind of getting tired and they were sitting around talking

1243
01:12:45.479 --> 01:12:49.000
and stuff, and they could tell by the direction of

1244
01:12:49.159 --> 01:12:52.640
the bell whose net it was. So like my dad's

1245
01:12:52.760 --> 01:12:56.880
was on the closest to the fire and Johnny's net

1246
01:12:57.119 --> 01:13:01.039
was farther up the river. And they the bells jingle

1247
01:13:01.319 --> 01:13:03.279
and they said, oh, Johnny, it's your net.

1248
01:13:03.520 --> 01:13:04.359
Like go check your net.

1249
01:13:04.439 --> 01:13:04.600
Man.

1250
01:13:04.760 --> 01:13:06.960
So there's a bunch of fish in your net. And

1251
01:13:07.119 --> 01:13:11.279
so he goes out there and he's taking a while,

1252
01:13:11.680 --> 01:13:14.119
and they said, we stood up and they were like

1253
01:13:14.399 --> 01:13:17.840
mining lights on their helme, you know, around their.

1254
01:13:17.760 --> 01:13:19.039
Foreheads, so they are able to.

1255
01:13:21.079 --> 01:13:23.880
Get through the brush down to the river, and so

1256
01:13:24.199 --> 01:13:26.479
they can see his light like going and then it

1257
01:13:26.680 --> 01:13:29.520
stops and he's kind of standing there and they were going,

1258
01:13:29.600 --> 01:13:31.439
what is he doing? And they kind of got up

1259
01:13:31.479 --> 01:13:34.039
and they went, you know, closer to the edge of

1260
01:13:34.079 --> 01:13:37.119
the river, and they were looking down toward where he was,

1261
01:13:37.840 --> 01:13:40.720
so he's part way toward the river. And then they

1262
01:13:40.760 --> 01:13:44.399
could see him move down and get in his boat.

1263
01:13:44.880 --> 01:13:49.239
And then and then they start telling it from his perspective,

1264
01:13:49.960 --> 01:13:53.800
and he said, Johnny said, he went and he got

1265
01:13:53.920 --> 01:13:57.560
into a skiff and he starts pulling himself along the net.

1266
01:13:58.039 --> 01:14:00.640
And then he said, all all of a sudden, his

1267
01:14:00.840 --> 01:14:04.039
boat got hooked on something. And there are like, you know,

1268
01:14:05.239 --> 01:14:07.720
branches and things like that that your boat can get

1269
01:14:07.760 --> 01:14:10.560
hooked on. And he was pulling himself along the net,

1270
01:14:11.000 --> 01:14:13.920
and then he was kind of pulling on the net

1271
01:14:14.000 --> 01:14:17.000
really hard, and he couldn't figure out, like what it's

1272
01:14:17.039 --> 01:14:19.760
hooked on. And he turned around and looked and there

1273
01:14:19.840 --> 01:14:22.680
was like this branch that was hanging like holding on

1274
01:14:22.880 --> 01:14:26.800
to the edge of his dinghi and so he moved it.

1275
01:14:27.000 --> 01:14:29.800
And then he started to pull along the net again,

1276
01:14:30.000 --> 01:14:32.560
and he noticed that the net was going up out

1277
01:14:32.640 --> 01:14:35.760
of the water, so it was raised up and he

1278
01:14:35.840 --> 01:14:37.960
could just see it with the spotlight, like he was

1279
01:14:38.039 --> 01:14:40.720
looking at the net and he looked up and that

1280
01:14:40.880 --> 01:14:43.279
bigfoot had the other end of the net and was

1281
01:14:43.359 --> 01:14:47.439
pulling fish out, and he fell back on screaming in

1282
01:14:47.560 --> 01:14:50.720
his boat. They could see him fall and start screaming,

1283
01:14:50.920 --> 01:14:54.119
and so they all went running towards the path that

1284
01:14:54.239 --> 01:14:57.159
he'd taken down to his boat. And he said, I

1285
01:14:58.239 --> 01:15:00.960
fell back in the boat, but my head light went

1286
01:15:01.119 --> 01:15:04.119
down almost between my eyes, and I watched this thing.

1287
01:15:04.279 --> 01:15:08.199
He goes, just take one step up out of this

1288
01:15:09.039 --> 01:15:13.840
ten foot embankment and just like pull itself up.

1289
01:15:14.000 --> 01:15:16.399
He goes. It was it was enormous.

1290
01:15:16.520 --> 01:15:19.239
It had to have been like nine ten feet tall,

1291
01:15:19.600 --> 01:15:22.199
he goes, because it went up easy, you know. And

1292
01:15:22.279 --> 01:15:27.720
these ridges on the other side of the river are

1293
01:15:27.920 --> 01:15:30.960
high like they're not a man can't climb it like.

1294
01:15:31.039 --> 01:15:34.520
It big for society will be right back after these messages.

1295
01:15:50.640 --> 01:15:52.680
It's it would be a struggle for a person to

1296
01:15:52.800 --> 01:15:56.119
do it. And so he starts screaming.

1297
01:15:56.199 --> 01:15:58.760
They call the police and then they bring the Bellingham

1298
01:15:58.840 --> 01:16:01.960
Harold out the next day and they're like, you know,

1299
01:16:02.119 --> 01:16:04.399
shows where this happened and all this. And they went

1300
01:16:04.479 --> 01:16:08.199
on the other side where that bigfoot had climbed out,

1301
01:16:08.560 --> 01:16:11.479
and there were these big, giant footprints and they made

1302
01:16:11.760 --> 01:16:14.039
casts and everything, and it was on the front page

1303
01:16:14.079 --> 01:16:17.920
of the Bellingham Harald, and they were talking about this

1304
01:16:18.279 --> 01:16:22.279
rash of like sightings because other people had seen it.

1305
01:16:22.560 --> 01:16:25.960
And this was where the river is. There's also like

1306
01:16:26.119 --> 01:16:28.479
on the other side where it had climbed out.

1307
01:16:29.399 --> 01:16:33.720
If you go maybe maybe a quarter mile from there,

1308
01:16:34.000 --> 01:16:38.119
there is this little town that they call Marietta, and

1309
01:16:38.239 --> 01:16:42.119
it's super small. There's just houses and that's it. There's

1310
01:16:42.199 --> 01:16:44.520
no store there anymore. There's not really anything.

1311
01:16:45.479 --> 01:16:49.760
Well, a couple of days after that, when they the.

1312
01:16:49.800 --> 01:16:55.159
Bellingham Harald had come and then when that sighting had happened, like,

1313
01:16:55.239 --> 01:16:58.720
people were talking about it the next day and the

1314
01:16:58.800 --> 01:17:02.319
person that was living one of these people were living

1315
01:17:02.359 --> 01:17:06.680
in Marietta, and he also was drying fish. Now, they

1316
01:17:06.760 --> 01:17:11.439
have like sheds where they drive meat and dry fish

1317
01:17:11.960 --> 01:17:14.640
and they tie them on ropes and then there are

1318
01:17:14.800 --> 01:17:17.159
nails in the ceiling and they would hang this meat

1319
01:17:17.239 --> 01:17:23.800
down from the ceiling. And this guy gets some fish

1320
01:17:23.880 --> 01:17:25.840
and he guts the fish and he throws it out

1321
01:17:25.880 --> 01:17:28.319
by the side of his house for the dogs and whatnot.

1322
01:17:28.399 --> 01:17:31.399
And then he was tying these fish in the shed

1323
01:17:32.319 --> 01:17:34.960
and he said, I'd noticed like a couple of them missing.

1324
01:17:35.039 --> 01:17:37.039
But I was thinking, well, maybe, you know, maybe a

1325
01:17:37.119 --> 01:17:38.039
dog's getting them.

1326
01:17:38.119 --> 01:17:38.920
Maybe something like that.

1327
01:17:39.760 --> 01:17:42.960
Well, he said, he didn't have enough line for it too,

1328
01:17:43.760 --> 01:17:46.399
you know, enough nails in the roof tang the line

1329
01:17:46.600 --> 01:17:49.119
from the roof to hang the meat up to dry.

1330
01:17:49.840 --> 01:17:51.720
So he had brought it.

1331
01:17:51.800 --> 01:17:57.239
Inside and then put safety pins along the wall and

1332
01:17:57.319 --> 01:18:02.079
then hung the the the rope or string or whatever,

1333
01:18:02.239 --> 01:18:06.479
and was hanging the fish along his wall inside, and

1334
01:18:07.199 --> 01:18:09.680
he had his chair and like his TV and stuff

1335
01:18:09.760 --> 01:18:11.640
like that, and this trailer, and he was sitting there

1336
01:18:11.680 --> 01:18:16.119
watching TV, he said, and he heard the dogs like

1337
01:18:17.680 --> 01:18:20.359
first they were barking, he said, then all of a sudden,

1338
01:18:20.479 --> 01:18:24.279
everything went quiet, like no barking, no sound from outside.

1339
01:18:24.359 --> 01:18:25.680
And he thought that was kind of weird.

1340
01:18:26.199 --> 01:18:27.800
And he got up and went in the kitchen and

1341
01:18:27.880 --> 01:18:31.000
he looked out the window and he didn't see anything.

1342
01:18:31.680 --> 01:18:34.840
And then he said, well, then I went back to

1343
01:18:34.920 --> 01:18:37.800
my chair. And when I sat back in my chair,

1344
01:18:37.960 --> 01:18:42.199
he goes, I'm facing the TV. The window is beside

1345
01:18:42.359 --> 01:18:45.920
this meat, so I'm looking at the meat above the television.

1346
01:18:46.199 --> 01:18:48.760
And then there's this window there and he goes, I

1347
01:18:48.840 --> 01:18:51.920
had the window open because the fish was smelly, you know,

1348
01:18:52.079 --> 01:18:55.640
And so he had the window propped open, and he said,

1349
01:18:55.760 --> 01:18:59.800
I just sat down and I looked up and this

1350
01:19:00.239 --> 01:19:02.920
face is in the window. He goes, but then it

1351
01:19:03.039 --> 01:19:06.680
reached its arm in and it grabbed one of the

1352
01:19:06.800 --> 01:19:12.520
fish and scraped along the wall and left like marks

1353
01:19:12.760 --> 01:19:13.279
on the wall.

1354
01:19:13.399 --> 01:19:15.399
And I don't know if they were deep or whatnot.

1355
01:19:15.880 --> 01:19:17.520
They had mentioned them in this.

1356
01:19:17.880 --> 01:19:22.680
Article afterwards, but everybody was talking about that and then

1357
01:19:23.520 --> 01:19:28.119
after that. And they tend to be like.

1358
01:19:29.680 --> 01:19:32.800
Like they aren't all the time. It's not like all

1359
01:19:32.960 --> 01:19:33.359
the time.

1360
01:19:33.600 --> 01:19:34.520
It's like a sea.

1361
01:19:34.680 --> 01:19:38.880
It almost seems seasonal, like as if they're going through

1362
01:19:39.279 --> 01:19:44.840
somewhere or something. And well, anyway, he had mentioned that

1363
01:19:45.039 --> 01:19:49.359
to this reporter, and aside from the scrapes on the

1364
01:19:49.439 --> 01:19:51.520
wall and stuff like that, you're kind of going off

1365
01:19:51.600 --> 01:19:54.800
of what someone said. She said, was there anybody else there?

1366
01:19:54.800 --> 01:19:57.840
And he goes, no, it's just me. And she said,

1367
01:19:57.880 --> 01:20:00.720
what did it look like? And she he said it

1368
01:20:01.600 --> 01:20:07.479
looked like he said, it was brown, but its features

1369
01:20:07.600 --> 01:20:11.760
looked more human than monkey. He said, it had the

1370
01:20:11.960 --> 01:20:17.199
nose that's like pushed up almost between not between the eyes,

1371
01:20:17.319 --> 01:20:20.199
but it's a lot higher than a human nose, so

1372
01:20:20.399 --> 01:20:24.079
like the nose is higher and then that big space

1373
01:20:24.319 --> 01:20:28.640
between the mouth and the nose, and he said it

1374
01:20:29.079 --> 01:20:32.159
it had hair like all around it except for around

1375
01:20:32.199 --> 01:20:35.359
its eyes, and so the eyes like it could see

1376
01:20:35.600 --> 01:20:38.920
almost like he was telling my uncle, it looked almost

1377
01:20:39.039 --> 01:20:44.319
like something where a gorilla or something had goggles on,

1378
01:20:45.000 --> 01:20:48.079
and you can see, like gorilla skin is not like

1379
01:20:48.199 --> 01:20:51.800
human skin. It's like really tough. It looked really tough.

1380
01:20:51.960 --> 01:20:55.560
This looked really tough around the eyes and whatnot. Well,

1381
01:20:57.079 --> 01:21:00.479
then a few years later and I don't know if

1382
01:21:00.560 --> 01:21:03.720
this is the same account, also as I don't know

1383
01:21:03.840 --> 01:21:08.199
how many people have watched sightings, they recorded this on

1384
01:21:08.439 --> 01:21:12.319
sightings once as well, but they had only gotten one

1385
01:21:12.399 --> 01:21:15.920
of these police officers account and he was the chief

1386
01:21:16.000 --> 01:21:18.840
of police, the one that they talked to. They didn't

1387
01:21:18.920 --> 01:21:22.600
talk to the deputy that had been at the other

1388
01:21:22.840 --> 01:21:25.319
end of the road at the time that this had happened.

1389
01:21:25.520 --> 01:21:28.479
That this is a totally different account, like a couple

1390
01:21:28.479 --> 01:21:34.920
of years later. This is like seventies, right, the one

1391
01:21:35.079 --> 01:21:39.000
with the police account. The chief of police I believe

1392
01:21:39.359 --> 01:21:43.079
was Kenny Hilaire or something like that that was in

1393
01:21:43.199 --> 01:21:46.239
the set pies. The one that was on sightings, and

1394
01:21:46.399 --> 01:21:51.960
then later on they had come to speak to the police.

1395
01:21:52.359 --> 01:21:54.880
And I don't even think that sightings was a thing.

1396
01:21:55.079 --> 01:21:57.800
I don't like I was going. They were saying it

1397
01:21:57.920 --> 01:22:01.199
was sightings, and I go, sightings isn't a thing anymore.

1398
01:22:01.800 --> 01:22:04.279
I don't know if it was for their online like

1399
01:22:04.439 --> 01:22:07.520
I remember in the nineties they had online where you

1400
01:22:07.600 --> 01:22:11.000
could watch things online. Well, anyway, they had come and

1401
01:22:11.680 --> 01:22:15.319
talked to somebody about this. Well, on our reservation, they

1402
01:22:15.399 --> 01:22:22.960
had like a theft, like somebody had went into town.

1403
01:22:23.079 --> 01:22:25.800
And you know, so all these police there are only

1404
01:22:25.920 --> 01:22:28.800
like two roads that go on too this reservation from town.

1405
01:22:29.479 --> 01:22:32.439
So they had been watching for this person's car when

1406
01:22:32.439 --> 01:22:35.279
they were supposed to be coming, you know, breaking the

1407
01:22:35.359 --> 01:22:35.960
law or whatever.

1408
01:22:36.439 --> 01:22:38.039
He somehow gets past them.

1409
01:22:38.000 --> 01:22:42.000
And he's driving like cratically and it's about you know,

1410
01:22:42.319 --> 01:22:47.359
midnight around there, and he kept shutting his headlights off

1411
01:22:47.520 --> 01:22:50.479
trying to get away from them, and he went down

1412
01:22:50.960 --> 01:22:53.720
this main stretch of road in the center of this

1413
01:22:53.880 --> 01:22:57.560
small little reservation that there are no houses.

1414
01:22:57.760 --> 01:23:01.279
There was nothing, there was just trees, s womp stuff

1415
01:23:01.399 --> 01:23:01.560
like that.

1416
01:23:01.760 --> 01:23:04.479
This is before that they before they built the tribal

1417
01:23:04.600 --> 01:23:07.760
building that they have now on this road, but it

1418
01:23:07.880 --> 01:23:11.000
was just nothing out there. So he shuts his lights

1419
01:23:11.079 --> 01:23:14.319
off and he's driving down this road. Well, the police

1420
01:23:14.359 --> 01:23:19.600
are after him, and they said, be careful of this guy.

1421
01:23:19.720 --> 01:23:23.239
He's really big and really violent. So this police officer

1422
01:23:23.399 --> 01:23:26.800
knows this guy and he says he comes over the

1423
01:23:26.960 --> 01:23:31.199
radio and he says, I saw so and so run

1424
01:23:31.279 --> 01:23:34.159
across the road in front of me. And he's stopped

1425
01:23:34.199 --> 01:23:37.840
his car and turn the headlights into the bushes, turns

1426
01:23:37.920 --> 01:23:40.079
his light on and starts chasing after him.

1427
01:23:40.199 --> 01:23:41.479
So he's like going through this.

1428
01:23:41.840 --> 01:23:48.479
Thick, thick BlackBerry bushes, brush, trees, everything, try to and

1429
01:23:48.600 --> 01:23:51.840
he goes. I can hear him crashing through the bushes

1430
01:23:52.239 --> 01:23:55.079
in front of me. I'm like him is thirty feet

1431
01:23:55.119 --> 01:23:57.279
in front of me. He goes, but I saw him,

1432
01:23:57.600 --> 01:23:59.800
I saw his frame. I saw him run into the bushes,

1433
01:24:01.039 --> 01:24:04.039
and so I'm getting back into the brush.

1434
01:24:04.560 --> 01:24:05.079
He goes, and it.

1435
01:24:05.119 --> 01:24:09.239
Starts getting really really muddy, like into the swamp area,

1436
01:24:10.319 --> 01:24:13.600
and he goes. I can hear him running and he goes,

1437
01:24:13.640 --> 01:24:16.640
stop right there, Kyle, I know that's you. And he's

1438
01:24:16.840 --> 01:24:19.399
like going a long and he can see him like

1439
01:24:19.520 --> 01:24:22.920
going behind trees and stuff, trying to get away, and

1440
01:24:23.079 --> 01:24:24.800
he goes, and then all of a sudden, it was

1441
01:24:24.960 --> 01:24:27.920
quiet and I couldn't hear I couldn't see him. I

1442
01:24:28.000 --> 01:24:33.279
don't see anything. And I'm standing now in like knee

1443
01:24:33.439 --> 01:24:36.880
deep muddy water. He goes, and I'm kind of moving

1444
01:24:36.960 --> 01:24:40.359
the flashlight around in these tree stumps and mud and

1445
01:24:40.520 --> 01:24:41.359
brush and all this.

1446
01:24:42.000 --> 01:24:42.319
He goes.

1447
01:24:42.399 --> 01:24:45.159
Then I saw him. He goes, and he was bent

1448
01:24:45.359 --> 01:24:51.039
down in the water. And I said, all right, all right, Kyle,

1449
01:24:51.159 --> 01:24:51.960
I see you there.

1450
01:24:52.520 --> 01:24:53.039
And he said.

1451
01:24:53.079 --> 01:24:56.319
When I said that, this thing stood up out of

1452
01:24:56.439 --> 01:24:59.920
the water and I saw it I and it wasn't him.

1453
01:25:00.279 --> 01:25:00.680
He goes.

1454
01:25:00.760 --> 01:25:03.359
It stood up, and when it stood up, it.

1455
01:25:03.560 --> 01:25:08.399
Raised its arms out, almost like a bird like outstretched.

1456
01:25:08.479 --> 01:25:11.239
It wasn't over its head, it wasn't like attacking. It

1457
01:25:11.439 --> 01:25:14.319
just kind of raised its arms up. And he goes,

1458
01:25:14.439 --> 01:25:17.880
I saw all this water coming off of this long

1459
01:25:18.000 --> 01:25:22.399
hair under its arms, and I start screaming, and all

1460
01:25:22.439 --> 01:25:25.439
those police officers are coming behind him, and so they

1461
01:25:25.920 --> 01:25:29.640
came running up, and that thing turned and just walked away.

1462
01:25:30.000 --> 01:25:30.319
He goes.

1463
01:25:30.439 --> 01:25:34.279
And by this point, I'm screaming and falling backwards into

1464
01:25:34.359 --> 01:25:38.079
the bushes, screaming, and those police officers get up there

1465
01:25:38.279 --> 01:25:41.000
and they got up there and they were like, what's

1466
01:25:41.039 --> 01:25:43.239
going on and he goes, that's not him.

1467
01:25:43.319 --> 01:25:46.840
I don't know what that was. And they said, you

1468
01:25:46.920 --> 01:25:49.279
don't know what it was, and he goes.

1469
01:25:49.159 --> 01:25:52.920
Well, I know what it was, but like, I don't

1470
01:25:52.960 --> 01:25:55.760
think you'd believe me if I told you what I saw.

1471
01:25:56.880 --> 01:26:01.880
And a lot of those police officers out there, they

1472
01:26:01.960 --> 01:26:05.159
don't like talking about it, but they do. They a

1473
01:26:05.279 --> 01:26:09.880
lot of them have seen stuff. They've seen things, you

1474
01:26:09.960 --> 01:26:15.039
know whatnot. Well, the last one that is most recent

1475
01:26:15.479 --> 01:26:20.560
was probably in like ninety nine or two thousand, I

1476
01:26:20.560 --> 01:26:23.399
would say, because you know, I was like in high school,

1477
01:26:24.399 --> 01:26:27.359
I was a senior. Well, anyway, one of my friends

1478
01:26:28.199 --> 01:26:30.800
was her dad was also a fisherman, and he had

1479
01:26:30.840 --> 01:26:33.359
an overturned boat that he would keep in the backyard

1480
01:26:34.039 --> 01:26:35.840
and he had his net and they would stream their

1481
01:26:35.880 --> 01:26:37.680
net out and dry their net and stuff like that.

1482
01:26:38.600 --> 01:26:41.079
She had called me and said, I'm babysitting so and so,

1483
01:26:41.199 --> 01:26:44.159
why don't you come hang out and watch movies? And

1484
01:26:44.239 --> 01:26:47.119
I was like okay, and you know, I was going

1485
01:26:47.199 --> 01:26:50.560
to go over there, and my mom goes, You're not

1486
01:26:50.640 --> 01:26:51.359
going anywhere.

1487
01:26:51.680 --> 01:26:53.159
Like they are saying that.

1488
01:26:53.760 --> 01:26:56.000
People are hearing stuff. People are seeing stuff. You're not

1489
01:26:56.079 --> 01:26:59.119
going anywhere. And so I call her back and I said,

1490
01:26:59.159 --> 01:27:02.920
I got to stay home or whatever. And so she

1491
01:27:03.359 --> 01:27:06.640
is there with like three kids and they're all asleep,

1492
01:27:06.720 --> 01:27:09.520
and she's kind of sitting there watching movies, she said,

1493
01:27:09.560 --> 01:27:12.720
and they had a motion light that was out aiming

1494
01:27:13.199 --> 01:27:16.359
in the backyard to make sure nobody stole their booies

1495
01:27:16.439 --> 01:27:20.279
or stole their net and stuff like that. And she said,

1496
01:27:20.800 --> 01:27:24.680
the light came on on the side where the car was,

1497
01:27:25.000 --> 01:27:26.920
and then the light in the backyard came on. So

1498
01:27:27.039 --> 01:27:29.199
I got up and was making sure that nobody was

1499
01:27:29.279 --> 01:27:30.399
taking anything.

1500
01:27:30.079 --> 01:27:31.920
Out of the backyard, she goes.

1501
01:27:31.960 --> 01:27:34.640
So I went back there and I looked and I

1502
01:27:34.920 --> 01:27:39.079
saw she goes, I actually saw a bigfoot crystal. And

1503
01:27:39.199 --> 01:27:42.520
I said what, and she goes, yeah, it was it

1504
01:27:42.640 --> 01:27:46.680
was eating the chum that was left in the bucket

1505
01:27:46.800 --> 01:27:49.520
by our boat, and she said it was bent over

1506
01:27:49.680 --> 01:27:51.439
and I saw the back of it.

1507
01:27:52.000 --> 01:27:54.520
And when the light she goes, I don't know if

1508
01:27:54.560 --> 01:27:55.920
it heard me or what.

1509
01:27:56.279 --> 01:27:59.159
She goes, but I had leaned over the kitchen sink

1510
01:27:59.159 --> 01:28:01.439
and I was looking at it, and she goes, It

1511
01:28:01.600 --> 01:28:04.279
was almost like I couldn't stop looking at it.

1512
01:28:04.520 --> 01:28:06.119
She goes, I.

1513
01:28:07.840 --> 01:28:10.000
Was super afraid, but I couldn't.

1514
01:28:10.039 --> 01:28:12.800
I was just watching it, and she said, it's elbows

1515
01:28:12.840 --> 01:28:15.279
were like moving in this bucket, and then it turned

1516
01:28:15.439 --> 01:28:18.439
and looked at her, she said, and then it stood

1517
01:28:18.560 --> 01:28:20.760
up and it stepped.

1518
01:28:20.399 --> 01:28:20.920
Through this.

1519
01:28:23.199 --> 01:28:27.359
BlackBerry brush that was separating these two tribal houses from

1520
01:28:27.399 --> 01:28:31.000
each other, and she goes, it just walked through.

1521
01:28:30.920 --> 01:28:32.640
Those bushes like nothing.

1522
01:28:33.439 --> 01:28:35.680
And so the next day we were out there like

1523
01:28:35.920 --> 01:28:38.760
looking around for like what if there's hair, what if

1524
01:28:38.800 --> 01:28:41.199
there's something like out there that we could find. And

1525
01:28:41.359 --> 01:28:45.640
so we were out there like looking around and I

1526
01:28:45.760 --> 01:28:48.359
was looking like at the ground and stuff like that,

1527
01:28:48.600 --> 01:28:53.279
and it it it's very damp, like very moist. The

1528
01:28:53.439 --> 01:28:58.800
yards are very wet, especially in the fall in like springtime.

1529
01:28:59.079 --> 01:29:03.640
But like we were looking around there and it was indented,

1530
01:29:03.880 --> 01:29:06.720
like the ground was indented, but it didn't look like

1531
01:29:06.840 --> 01:29:09.840
a foot, like there were no toes. I couldn't really

1532
01:29:09.880 --> 01:29:14.520
see anything aside from that. And then the one time

1533
01:29:14.600 --> 01:29:17.560
that I did hear it, like my mom was really

1534
01:29:17.680 --> 01:29:20.880
freaked out. She's, you know, she's not from there or anything.

1535
01:29:21.000 --> 01:29:24.159
And so when they would say that they're having they're

1536
01:29:24.199 --> 01:29:27.600
starting to see things, they're starting, you know, like you

1537
01:29:27.720 --> 01:29:31.079
better stay inside, don't go outside. Don't you know if

1538
01:29:31.119 --> 01:29:33.479
you hear something weird, don't look out your window, you

1539
01:29:33.600 --> 01:29:38.199
know that kind of thing. And we were inside who

1540
01:29:38.239 --> 01:29:41.000
I call my grandma, she's my adopted grandma. But we

1541
01:29:41.039 --> 01:29:46.640
were inside her house and we were getting ready to leave.

1542
01:29:46.760 --> 01:29:49.680
We were I think we were eating dinner there. Something

1543
01:29:49.840 --> 01:29:54.640
was going on at her house and her son came

1544
01:29:54.720 --> 01:29:59.199
in and he goes, hey, Karen, which is my mom's name,

1545
01:29:59.439 --> 01:30:02.680
I I wouldn't recommend you go out there, and she

1546
01:30:02.840 --> 01:30:05.720
goes why and he goes because it smells really bad

1547
01:30:05.760 --> 01:30:09.680
out there, and we're like, oh no, and my mom

1548
01:30:09.840 --> 01:30:12.159
was like, oh great, you know, And so we're kind

1549
01:30:12.199 --> 01:30:16.720
of sitting there and then we start hearing this sound

1550
01:30:17.000 --> 01:30:21.079
and it was like like a At first, it was

1551
01:30:21.399 --> 01:30:25.039
it almost sounded like a hootie, like a hoo whoo

1552
01:30:25.920 --> 01:30:27.279
who kind of sound.

1553
01:30:28.079 --> 01:30:30.840
Big for society will be right back after these messages.

1554
01:30:47.039 --> 01:30:48.840
And then it turned into this.

1555
01:30:50.479 --> 01:30:54.359
More animal sound like uh, I don't want to see

1556
01:30:55.239 --> 01:31:02.239
screaming or screeching. And then like I can't even replicate

1557
01:31:02.319 --> 01:31:03.159
what it sounded like.

1558
01:31:03.279 --> 01:31:07.800
It was very like you could tell it was inhuman.

1559
01:31:07.960 --> 01:31:13.359
It was a different octave of sound of than if

1560
01:31:13.600 --> 01:31:19.439
a man were outside, like screaming or hollering, but it

1561
01:31:19.640 --> 01:31:24.079
was calling. And where my adopted grandma lived, she lived

1562
01:31:24.199 --> 01:31:29.159
above where they would harvest oysters, and we could hear

1563
01:31:29.239 --> 01:31:32.079
it out there. And then it start whistling, so it

1564
01:31:33.039 --> 01:31:36.680
made three different sounds. So there was like this period

1565
01:31:36.760 --> 01:31:41.319
of like the who kind of sound. It wasn't an

1566
01:31:41.479 --> 01:31:45.439
owl sound either, it was loud, like really loud, but

1567
01:31:45.600 --> 01:31:50.760
then that scream kind of sound, and then like a

1568
01:31:51.039 --> 01:31:52.560
whistling It almost.

1569
01:31:52.359 --> 01:31:55.439
Sounded like chirping, but it was a high pitch like

1570
01:31:55.640 --> 01:31:56.479
whistle sound.

1571
01:31:57.760 --> 01:32:02.960
And then as we're sitting there, her son starts going,

1572
01:32:03.840 --> 01:32:07.159
oh man, they're probably down there getting oysters again, and

1573
01:32:07.279 --> 01:32:09.640
my mom goes again and he was.

1574
01:32:09.720 --> 01:32:14.039
Like, oh man, yeah, they were down there. Like I

1575
01:32:14.119 --> 01:32:15.279
don't know when this happened.

1576
01:32:15.319 --> 01:32:18.079
I don't want to say when he saw this because

1577
01:32:18.279 --> 01:32:22.760
I'm not sure, but he goes, oh, yeah, I went

1578
01:32:22.840 --> 01:32:26.880
out on the back porch, which aimed down this slope

1579
01:32:27.000 --> 01:32:30.399
into the oyster field, and he goes, I was standing

1580
01:32:30.399 --> 01:32:31.640
there smoking a cigarette.

1581
01:32:31.840 --> 01:32:35.479
He goes, and I saw somebody walking along down in the.

1582
01:32:35.960 --> 01:32:36.239
In the.

1583
01:32:38.399 --> 01:32:41.560
In the water, and it was low tide he goes,

1584
01:32:41.600 --> 01:32:44.880
So it was like, you know, maybe to their ankles,

1585
01:32:45.039 --> 01:32:47.159
maybe to their calves, something like that. He goes, But

1586
01:32:47.239 --> 01:32:49.680
I was sitting there watching them, and I was thinking, oh, man,

1587
01:32:49.800 --> 01:32:53.079
somebody's down there poaching oysters. And he was kind of

1588
01:32:53.119 --> 01:32:57.680
sitting there smoking watching them, and he said, I could

1589
01:32:57.800 --> 01:33:00.680
just see their silhouette. They were just moving along out

1590
01:33:00.760 --> 01:33:04.920
in these oyster field where they dig oysters.

1591
01:33:05.520 --> 01:33:06.520
He goes, and then.

1592
01:33:08.239 --> 01:33:11.039
I was going, oh, pretty soon tribal's going to show

1593
01:33:11.119 --> 01:33:12.960
up and they're going to get in trouble. So he's

1594
01:33:13.000 --> 01:33:15.319
kind of sitting there watching them, and he goes, I

1595
01:33:15.439 --> 01:33:17.920
expected them to pull out a rake or pull out

1596
01:33:17.960 --> 01:33:21.399
something and start scraping, because that's you know, how those

1597
01:33:21.479 --> 01:33:25.960
tribal people will harvest their clams and oysters and stuff.

1598
01:33:26.760 --> 01:33:29.279
And he goes, but this thing walked over to the

1599
01:33:29.520 --> 01:33:34.880
slope where these big three hundred pound bag burlap bags are,

1600
01:33:35.920 --> 01:33:40.079
and he goes. These things were full and they were

1601
01:33:40.159 --> 01:33:45.000
tied very similar to how you would keep oysters or oysters.

1602
01:33:45.119 --> 01:33:51.239
Like let's say like when people catch lobsters, they kind

1603
01:33:51.279 --> 01:33:54.920
of keep them somewhere damp and they leave them down

1604
01:33:55.000 --> 01:33:56.239
in the water and then they get.

1605
01:33:56.119 --> 01:33:59.039
The oysters out or the lobsters out or whatever.

1606
01:34:01.079 --> 01:34:03.439
Just trying to give you guys an idea of how

1607
01:34:03.880 --> 01:34:04.520
they were kept.

1608
01:34:04.640 --> 01:34:07.279
It was tied up, the top of the bags tied.

1609
01:34:08.079 --> 01:34:10.760
He goes that, he goes, I thought it was a man,

1610
01:34:10.880 --> 01:34:15.119
But it lifted those two bags, three hundred pound bags

1611
01:34:15.279 --> 01:34:19.800
tied together, and slung it over its shoulder and start

1612
01:34:19.920 --> 01:34:23.279
walking with these like almost six hundred pounds of oysters.

1613
01:34:23.720 --> 01:34:25.520
He goes. Then I knew it wasn't a man.

1614
01:34:26.000 --> 01:34:28.279
And I most absolutely.

1615
01:34:29.880 --> 01:34:32.319
Aware of like he goes, they come back and forth

1616
01:34:32.399 --> 01:34:36.079
here through here to go down and harvest stuff, I think.

1617
01:34:36.920 --> 01:34:38.960
And so we were sitting there and my mom was like, well,

1618
01:34:39.000 --> 01:34:41.560
I don't even want to go outside now, you know.

1619
01:34:41.720 --> 01:34:44.680
After my mom was going, I don't like this kind

1620
01:34:44.720 --> 01:34:46.560
of stuff, like I don't want to hear anything. I

1621
01:34:46.600 --> 01:34:49.760
don't want to see anything. I don't want you Like,

1622
01:34:50.640 --> 01:34:52.319
after he got done with that, she was like, I

1623
01:34:52.319 --> 01:34:55.279
don't want to hear anymore. And a lot of Native

1624
01:34:55.279 --> 01:34:58.279
people seem like they're like that where they'll go, I

1625
01:34:58.359 --> 01:35:01.239
don't want to hear it, like, don't don't tell me,

1626
01:35:01.920 --> 01:35:05.000
I don't I don't need to hear that. I have

1627
01:35:05.159 --> 01:35:11.520
to live here, you know, and so wow, very yeah.

1628
01:35:11.680 --> 01:35:14.159
A lot a lot of Native people I think are

1629
01:35:14.279 --> 01:35:14.640
kind of.

1630
01:35:17.520 --> 01:35:18.079
Almost like.

1631
01:35:19.640 --> 01:35:24.960
Respectful of that, Like they don't want to really talk

1632
01:35:25.119 --> 01:35:27.760
about the things that they see, and then outside of

1633
01:35:27.840 --> 01:35:31.119
the culture, nobody believes you anyway, and so they'll just go,

1634
01:35:31.279 --> 01:35:33.680
nobody's going to believe you anyway. Why I tell anybody

1635
01:35:33.720 --> 01:35:37.079
about that kind of stuff because none of that matters,

1636
01:35:37.520 --> 01:35:40.199
None of it matters to anybody outside of here because

1637
01:35:40.199 --> 01:35:41.560
they don't have to live here.

1638
01:35:42.039 --> 01:35:42.319
We do.

1639
01:35:43.520 --> 01:35:48.680
And so it's more like in Native cultures, I think

1640
01:35:48.720 --> 01:35:50.720
a lot of the time they don't want to say

1641
01:35:50.760 --> 01:35:56.319
anything because it's looked at as I can't believe you

1642
01:35:56.520 --> 01:35:59.039
believe something like that, And I go, well, if you

1643
01:35:59.279 --> 01:36:03.399
saw it, if you were there, then you would understand,

1644
01:36:04.479 --> 01:36:08.439
like why they're quiet and why they don't say much

1645
01:36:08.800 --> 01:36:14.880
about the things that they see or you know, experiences

1646
01:36:14.960 --> 01:36:17.920
that they've had or things that they've heard or any

1647
01:36:18.000 --> 01:36:20.720
of that. Like my dad and my uncles and stuff

1648
01:36:20.880 --> 01:36:23.720
didn't talk about most of the things that they would see,

1649
01:36:24.319 --> 01:36:28.079
whether they were paranormal or whether they were bigfoot, or

1650
01:36:28.119 --> 01:36:30.640
whether they were in whatever it was. They kind of

1651
01:36:30.720 --> 01:36:34.640
would wouldn't want to talk about it, and so like

1652
01:36:35.119 --> 01:36:39.359
getting stories out of a lot of Native communities I

1653
01:36:39.439 --> 01:36:44.000
think is really hard because they kind of use it

1654
01:36:44.079 --> 01:36:48.760
as entertainment, like, oh, that's, you know, somebody just making

1655
01:36:48.840 --> 01:36:51.560
something up. That's somebody just telling a story. It's not

1656
01:36:51.760 --> 01:36:54.960
really real. It's something that people do to pass the time.

1657
01:36:56.159 --> 01:37:01.119
And so you know when it's situations like that culturally,

1658
01:37:01.479 --> 01:37:05.399
and and the fact that you know, my grandma.

1659
01:37:05.159 --> 01:37:07.720
Used to say, you feed those things out of what

1660
01:37:07.960 --> 01:37:10.039
you catch, so they'll leave you alone.

1661
01:37:10.680 --> 01:37:14.159
You don't you respect them, and so they would put

1662
01:37:14.159 --> 01:37:17.239
out food and stuff like that, and she goes, that's

1663
01:37:17.319 --> 01:37:18.399
the reason you're doing it.

1664
01:37:18.560 --> 01:37:18.800
It's not.

1665
01:37:19.439 --> 01:37:22.039
It's not because you're trying to call them around. It's

1666
01:37:22.119 --> 01:37:26.600
because you don't want you want to respect them as

1667
01:37:26.720 --> 01:37:30.880
a people. Let's say, if they're a certain type of people,

1668
01:37:31.039 --> 01:37:34.479
then you do that for them, and they will respect

1669
01:37:34.560 --> 01:37:36.560
you and you respect them and you stay out of

1670
01:37:36.600 --> 01:37:39.079
their way and you don't interfere, and you don't like,

1671
01:37:39.880 --> 01:37:45.600
you know, you do your best to just just deal

1672
01:37:46.119 --> 01:37:51.520
with what's going on and not so much trying to

1673
01:37:51.760 --> 01:37:54.199
explain it to people who don't want to hear it.

1674
01:37:55.159 --> 01:37:59.159
A lot of people will say they're they're they're an animal,

1675
01:37:59.319 --> 01:38:03.319
they're a you know, they're this, they're that. My grandma said,

1676
01:38:03.319 --> 01:38:07.520
they're from somewhere else. They're they're not here all the time.

1677
01:38:08.319 --> 01:38:10.960
They're not here all the time. So they're not a

1678
01:38:11.159 --> 01:38:15.800
monkey and they're not a Because there were certain places

1679
01:38:15.840 --> 01:38:20.479
on a reservation that also had other abnormal areas, and

1680
01:38:20.600 --> 01:38:23.880
they my grandma would say, there's a doorway there. And

1681
01:38:24.039 --> 01:38:26.800
so there are a lot of places on different reservations

1682
01:38:26.840 --> 01:38:28.800
and people will steady them and they'll come in and

1683
01:38:28.920 --> 01:38:31.239
try to poke around and figure it out, and they

1684
01:38:31.960 --> 01:38:33.479
the native people go, it's a door.

1685
01:38:33.720 --> 01:38:34.399
Leave it alone.

1686
01:38:34.760 --> 01:38:37.199
It doesn't need to be having stuff cut in out

1687
01:38:37.239 --> 01:38:39.920
of those places. And the more you poke it, the

1688
01:38:40.039 --> 01:38:42.560
more it will do it. And so don't mess with it.

1689
01:38:42.960 --> 01:38:43.840
Just ignore it.

1690
01:38:44.239 --> 01:38:46.000
A lot of the time I think that Native people

1691
01:38:46.920 --> 01:38:51.640
understand the thing that's going on, but they don't like

1692
01:38:51.800 --> 01:38:52.279
to say it.

1693
01:38:53.319 --> 01:38:56.920
And so, you know, well, where are the bodies and

1694
01:38:57.039 --> 01:38:58.359
where is this? And where is that?

1695
01:38:58.560 --> 01:39:01.640
My grandma go, they're not from there, They're from somewhere.

1696
01:39:01.960 --> 01:39:04.720
They're from somewhere else. It's why you can't find them

1697
01:39:04.760 --> 01:39:06.880
all the time. That's why you can't track them down.

1698
01:39:07.359 --> 01:39:09.319
That's why you can't hunt them. That's why you can't

1699
01:39:09.359 --> 01:39:12.279
shoot them, you know, certain stuff like that.

1700
01:39:12.520 --> 01:39:18.399
But that's my grandma's idea of what they are and

1701
01:39:18.600 --> 01:39:19.920
why you're.

1702
01:39:21.439 --> 01:39:25.000
Your past cross with them every now and again. But

1703
01:39:25.159 --> 01:39:28.880
they're they're made of something humans are not made of.

1704
01:39:29.520 --> 01:39:31.439
If that makes sense. I don't know if it even

1705
01:39:31.479 --> 01:39:33.520
does to non native people or not.

1706
01:39:34.199 --> 01:39:38.479
But yeah, I think I can. I can try to

1707
01:39:38.640 --> 01:39:40.720
grasp it. I don't know if I can fully grasp it,

1708
01:39:40.880 --> 01:39:43.920
but I'm just so glad that you were in here.

1709
01:39:44.039 --> 01:39:47.199
I've I've been wanting to talk to someone who had

1710
01:39:47.239 --> 01:39:51.560
a connection with the Lummy Reservation for years, to be honest,

1711
01:39:51.640 --> 01:39:55.520
I mean just there's so many wild stories that come

1712
01:39:55.800 --> 01:39:58.880
out of there, and you referenced a few yourself. But

1713
01:39:59.840 --> 01:40:03.279
it it's also in close proximity to the San Juan Islands.

1714
01:40:03.960 --> 01:40:06.640
Did you ever hear about that area living when you

1715
01:40:06.760 --> 01:40:10.640
lived in that area, Like the possibility of sasquatch living

1716
01:40:10.760 --> 01:40:12.479
on some of the islands.

1717
01:40:13.039 --> 01:40:18.159
Well, some of the fishermen had stories about that, like

1718
01:40:19.039 --> 01:40:22.479
most of the people fish like the man and stuff

1719
01:40:22.600 --> 01:40:25.359
like that, and they would say, oh, yeah, don't.

1720
01:40:25.199 --> 01:40:29.039
Go through that channel at this certain time or whatever.

1721
01:40:29.159 --> 01:40:31.319
If you don't want to be creeped out or freaked

1722
01:40:31.359 --> 01:40:34.439
out or see something in the water swimming or you know,

1723
01:40:35.159 --> 01:40:37.680
because a lot of them would say, oh, yeah, we

1724
01:40:37.800 --> 01:40:43.079
saw we saw bigfoot swimming across right there. And you know,

1725
01:40:43.199 --> 01:40:45.560
a lot of the time, the people who would tell

1726
01:40:45.640 --> 01:40:51.479
you these things, they'd say, let's say, my friend drank

1727
01:40:51.800 --> 01:40:52.479
quite a bit.

1728
01:40:53.000 --> 01:40:56.479
And they would say, oh, man, we saw bigfoot swimming.

1729
01:40:56.159 --> 01:40:59.800
Across right there. And everybody would go, oh, he's drunk

1730
01:41:00.279 --> 01:41:04.119
like quite a bit. So like, how how serious are

1731
01:41:04.159 --> 01:41:07.279
you going to take this? Well, then you hear two

1732
01:41:07.439 --> 01:41:09.640
or three other ones saying the same kind of thing.

1733
01:41:10.000 --> 01:41:13.840
Or walking along walking along the embankment to go up

1734
01:41:14.439 --> 01:41:18.319
Porridge was another one that they would see bigfoot quite

1735
01:41:18.319 --> 01:41:18.520
a bit.

1736
01:41:18.600 --> 01:41:19.039
And that's a.

1737
01:41:19.159 --> 01:41:22.359
Tiny, tiny island just right on the other side, and

1738
01:41:22.399 --> 01:41:24.239
it drives all the way out and you can drive

1739
01:41:24.680 --> 01:41:29.800
over there and people camp there and crazy people do.

1740
01:41:30.199 --> 01:41:32.479
But like you could set up a tent over there

1741
01:41:32.560 --> 01:41:34.600
and drive across an amp there if you wanted to.

1742
01:41:35.199 --> 01:41:38.399
But they would say, yeah, there are big foot footprints

1743
01:41:38.520 --> 01:41:40.800
all over over there if you go over there at

1744
01:41:40.840 --> 01:41:44.039
the right time of year, and like in the in the.

1745
01:41:46.720 --> 01:41:48.880
The sand going across you can.

1746
01:41:49.279 --> 01:41:51.520
You can drive a pickup truck across there and get

1747
01:41:51.560 --> 01:41:53.600
to the island and then when the tide comes in,

1748
01:41:53.880 --> 01:41:56.279
they would go, yeah, they're big old footprints out there,

1749
01:41:56.720 --> 01:42:01.359
not bootprints like toes, feet like feet going overre And

1750
01:42:01.520 --> 01:42:06.319
so yeah, there are stories other stories of people and

1751
01:42:06.439 --> 01:42:10.920
a lot of fishermen have odd stories, you know, of

1752
01:42:11.439 --> 01:42:16.199
hearing things coming from certain islands and you don't know

1753
01:42:16.239 --> 01:42:20.239
whether they're bigfoot related or not based off off.

1754
01:42:21.680 --> 01:42:24.359
Quote unquote doorways if you'd like to call them that.

1755
01:42:24.600 --> 01:42:28.880
Being in certain places, you know, they'd hear a lot

1756
01:42:29.000 --> 01:42:32.640
of weird things that people can explain, and they don't

1757
01:42:32.720 --> 01:42:37.319
understand what they're hearing exactly, from people calling.

1758
01:42:37.159 --> 01:42:41.760
Them to like noises to sounds to you know.

1759
01:42:42.880 --> 01:42:46.920
Someone calling their name from a certain island where nobody lives.

1760
01:42:47.279 --> 01:42:48.079
You know, stuff like that.

1761
01:42:48.239 --> 01:42:51.479
And so it's just odd, odd all the way around

1762
01:42:51.720 --> 01:42:56.119
in a lot of those places. And I think that

1763
01:42:57.239 --> 01:43:00.800
if people were to be able to see energy, like

1764
01:43:01.000 --> 01:43:05.039
what where these doorways or portals if you want to

1765
01:43:05.039 --> 01:43:07.920
call them that, or whatever they are where things go

1766
01:43:08.119 --> 01:43:12.239
in and out of, and be able to understand really

1767
01:43:12.319 --> 01:43:16.479
what's happening in a lot of these reservations because a

1768
01:43:16.520 --> 01:43:18.760
lot of stuff happened in these.

1769
01:43:18.760 --> 01:43:19.640
Areas and stuff.

1770
01:43:20.560 --> 01:43:23.760
The fact that Native people don't bother them, Like if

1771
01:43:23.800 --> 01:43:26.039
they see something weird, they don't go poke around.

1772
01:43:26.079 --> 01:43:26.640
They're looking.

1773
01:43:27.000 --> 01:43:29.920
They're not going to get up, let's go check it out,

1774
01:43:30.119 --> 01:43:32.680
you know, They're not about that.

1775
01:43:33.000 --> 01:43:34.359
They just kind of go, oh yeah.

1776
01:43:34.680 --> 01:43:37.159
Like if you don't want any more weird, then don't

1777
01:43:37.279 --> 01:43:40.600
go poke around weird. Like if you don't understand it,

1778
01:43:40.720 --> 01:43:43.359
don't mess with it because you don't know what that

1779
01:43:43.600 --> 01:43:44.880
is in the first place.

1780
01:43:45.560 --> 01:43:53.920
That makes perfect sense. Wow, there's so much, so much

1781
01:43:54.000 --> 01:43:56.960
information in this conversation. Thank you for coming up, Crystal.

1782
01:43:58.039 --> 01:44:01.079
Would you be able to do you mind sending me

1783
01:44:01.159 --> 01:44:05.439
an email in case I have questions that come up later.

1784
01:44:05.600 --> 01:44:10.159
I mean, just to have you as like a contact.

1785
01:44:11.680 --> 01:44:11.920
Sure.

1786
01:44:13.279 --> 01:44:15.800
I noticed on your chat there someone said don't they

1787
01:44:15.840 --> 01:44:22.800
threw rocks? My ex boyfriend had a situation where he's,

1788
01:44:23.319 --> 01:44:26.520
you know, he didn't believe in bigfoot or anything, and

1789
01:44:26.680 --> 01:44:29.560
he was working up on Mount Baker and they were

1790
01:44:29.640 --> 01:44:31.960
clearing land on Mount Baker with like.

1791
01:44:33.680 --> 01:44:38.079
You know, big equipment and stuff like that, and he

1792
01:44:38.159 --> 01:44:39.119
said there was a.

1793
01:44:41.760 --> 01:44:44.399
Bulldozer that was sitting up there and he goes, when

1794
01:44:44.479 --> 01:44:46.800
we got up there, it's like five in the morning.

1795
01:44:46.920 --> 01:44:49.319
We had to get up there really early. And he goes,

1796
01:44:50.159 --> 01:44:53.039
we go up there, he goes, and the guy I

1797
01:44:53.199 --> 01:44:56.319
was with goes, stay really close to me. Man, I

1798
01:44:56.359 --> 01:44:58.399
don't like it up here, and he goes, why not,

1799
01:44:58.640 --> 01:45:02.920
And he goes, I don't know, I'm seeing a lot

1800
01:45:03.000 --> 01:45:06.640
of bigfoot up here when I'm by myself. And he goes,

1801
01:45:06.800 --> 01:45:09.880
oh no, and he's kind of like, ooh, you know,

1802
01:45:10.000 --> 01:45:13.520
he didn't believe him. He's like, you know, twenty years old,

1803
01:45:13.560 --> 01:45:15.600
doesn't believe him, never saw anything like that.

1804
01:45:16.359 --> 01:45:19.520
And he goes, But we get up there, and he goes.

1805
01:45:19.840 --> 01:45:25.479
We pull in and I see this tall figure walk

1806
01:45:25.600 --> 01:45:29.560
around the edge of the bulldozer and then I see

1807
01:45:29.600 --> 01:45:32.399
the bucket go down on the bulldozer.

1808
01:45:33.279 --> 01:45:35.640
Was sitting in the truck and neither one of us

1809
01:45:35.720 --> 01:45:36.479
is saying anything.

1810
01:45:37.399 --> 01:45:40.560
And when the bucket went down, he goes, who's that

1811
01:45:41.760 --> 01:45:45.439
And the guy he's with doesn't answer him. They're just

1812
01:45:45.520 --> 01:45:48.920
sitting there. And then he says he sees it walk away,

1813
01:45:49.279 --> 01:45:51.920
like he can finally see it when it moves away

1814
01:45:51.960 --> 01:45:55.640
from the bucket, and it had gone into the trees

1815
01:45:55.760 --> 01:45:56.159
and he goes.

1816
01:45:56.239 --> 01:45:58.960
This thing was he goes. When I imagine a bigfoot,

1817
01:45:59.000 --> 01:46:02.000
I'm thinking like black, dark brown, he goes. That thing

1818
01:46:02.239 --> 01:46:03.800
was orange, was.

1819
01:46:03.880 --> 01:46:08.520
Like white, white colored, he goes. But it walked into

1820
01:46:08.560 --> 01:46:10.239
the bushes and it was just gone.

1821
01:46:10.399 --> 01:46:10.760
He goes.

1822
01:46:10.800 --> 01:46:14.800
But when we finally got out, we radioed our boss

1823
01:46:14.960 --> 01:46:17.399
and we were like, when are you guys getting here,

1824
01:46:17.520 --> 01:46:19.520
And we didn't want to tell them what we'd seen.

1825
01:46:20.000 --> 01:46:21.720
Well, we were there, he goes.

1826
01:46:21.760 --> 01:46:24.119
But we walked around the front of the bulldozer and

1827
01:46:24.279 --> 01:46:27.880
this giant boulder was set in the middle of the

1828
01:46:28.079 --> 01:46:30.840
trough of that That's what had weighed it down, was

1829
01:46:30.920 --> 01:46:32.520
this giant boulder.

1830
01:46:32.279 --> 01:46:35.960
That it set in the middle of the bucket. And

1831
01:46:36.079 --> 01:46:39.359
he goes. It took us hours to get that, you know,

1832
01:46:39.520 --> 01:46:40.359
to wait for the guy.

1833
01:46:40.600 --> 01:46:42.640
We tried to pry it off with a stick, We

1834
01:46:42.760 --> 01:46:45.239
tried all this stuff because that thing weighed I don't

1835
01:46:45.239 --> 01:46:46.760
know how much it could have waited, he goes, But

1836
01:46:46.880 --> 01:46:49.119
we had to wait for that operator to get there

1837
01:46:49.640 --> 01:46:53.239
to dump it off of the the shovel part of

1838
01:46:53.359 --> 01:46:57.960
the the bulldozer part, the part that has the bucket

1839
01:46:58.039 --> 01:47:00.920
on it, he goes. But we had been trying for

1840
01:47:01.119 --> 01:47:03.159
like an hour and a half two hours to get

1841
01:47:03.199 --> 01:47:06.640
that boulder out before this guy got there, because we

1842
01:47:06.720 --> 01:47:10.079
didn't want to have to explain how the boulder got there,

1843
01:47:11.039 --> 01:47:13.560
and we didn't want to have to explain these people

1844
01:47:13.800 --> 01:47:18.560
like why we put it there, because everything wasn't left

1845
01:47:18.600 --> 01:47:22.640
the way that we had left it, and so yeah,

1846
01:47:22.720 --> 01:47:27.279
a lot of little things like I'm I'm not somebody

1847
01:47:27.319 --> 01:47:30.960
who had personally seen it, and so, but I do

1848
01:47:31.159 --> 01:47:37.000
know a lot of people that don't have any reason

1849
01:47:37.159 --> 01:47:39.800
to lie about something like that. And then all the

1850
01:47:39.920 --> 01:47:42.720
workers when they did get there, were going what was

1851
01:47:42.840 --> 01:47:44.920
going on here with this? You know, and they're kind

1852
01:47:44.960 --> 01:47:46.680
of looking at it like what did you guys do

1853
01:47:47.680 --> 01:47:49.520
because you don't know how to operate this?

1854
01:47:49.760 --> 01:47:50.920
And how did this get in here?

1855
01:47:51.279 --> 01:47:51.439
You know?

1856
01:47:51.600 --> 01:47:55.960
And so having to tell it to half native half

1857
01:47:56.119 --> 01:47:59.800
non native people and then have all the non natives

1858
01:47:59.840 --> 01:48:02.560
like laugh and make fun of you and whatever. You

1859
01:48:03.800 --> 01:48:06.920
So it's kind of but yeah, I've got I see

1860
01:48:06.960 --> 01:48:09.159
your email up here and whatnot.

1861
01:48:09.319 --> 01:48:13.359
So awesome, Chrystal. Yeah, thank you for coming up and

1862
01:48:13.520 --> 01:48:17.520
for sharing some just incredible accounts. I really appreciate it.

1863
01:48:18.560 --> 01:48:21.399
Yeah, no problem, you have a great night, all right.

1864
01:48:21.880 --> 01:48:23.359
I'll be looking out for your email.

1865
01:48:23.439 --> 01:48:25.520
Thank you great, Thanks.

1866
01:48:25.640 --> 01:48:28.319
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1869
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1870
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1872
01:48:49.479 --> 01:48:52.359
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1873
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1875
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