Everyone Was Screaming as They Ran Past Us!

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Welcome to the Bigfoot Society. In
this episode, I talked to TJ about

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his encounter in Great Barrington, Massachusetts
and the Severville, Tennessee area. If

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you've experienced something similar or have more
information regarding Bigfoot or other cryptids in the

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same areas, please reach out immediately
to me after this episode. And if

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you've had an encounter and you'd like
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this episode, you'll definitely want to be

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able to hear that. All right, let's get on with the show,

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all right, big for Society.
You've got the privilege of talking to TJ

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tonight. TJ's a listener of the
show, and he reached out to me.

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I'd like to share some things that
has happened to him over the years

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regarding Bigfoot. But how's it going
today, TJ? Oh good? How

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are you awesome? I'm excited to
hear your accounts for a reason that I

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will share later. Kind of keep
keep that in my back pocket for now,

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but I'm going to go ahead and
give the floor to you, and

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you're welcome to share what has happened
to you over these years. Okay.

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So my uncle who was basically my
father as well, he you know,

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he acted as as both for me. He would take me on probably three

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to four camping trips every year,
and it was what I looked forward to

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the most. And one of the
places that I really enjoyed going to was

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up in Great Barrington, Massachusetts,
and it's right on the New York Massachusetts

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state line that you could probably throw
a stone and hit New York from where

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we were. So this this place, I was thinking about it, and

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I'm not going to mention the name
of the site because I just don't want

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to step on any toes. For
one, I did a little reading on

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it, and I know it's closed
down right now. It's in the process

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of chaining ownership, so I don't
know who owns it anymore. So I

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just don't want to piss anybody off
by mentioning it on the internet. But

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this is the type of place that
it had a lake in it. I

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will say that, and it was
one of those lakes that like you see

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on a screen saver, crystal clear
and had stones on the bottom. It

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was just, you know, the
most relaxing place you can imagine. But

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we also went up there to go
off roading, you know, ATVs all

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that other stuff, durt biking.
I'm not at the campsite we actually went.

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I'm not sure if I remember the
name of the mountain that we went

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to, but it was probably a
forty minute drive because of all the hills

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in terms you had to take.
I think it was called Barren Mountain.

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I'm not sure if I have that
right, but I think that it was.

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So this trip, it was not
like the others the previous trips.

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I was just getting with excitement,
ready to go, couldn't wait till he

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picked me up that Friday, and
it was always on Memorial Day weekend.

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This was it was like did you
ever go somewhere or plan something? And

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from the start everything was just flu
bar Well, this was that trip.

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He got stuck in traffic on the
way to come pick me up. We

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ended up being two hours late,
and then we were trying to rush up

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there because that night storms were supposed
to roll in, So on top of

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that, we got stuck in traffic
going up there, and everything was just

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messed up from the start. So
luckily we got up there was just enough

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time that you could see off in
the distance from where the campsite was.

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The storms come and just lightning and
everything, and we were trying to set

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up our tents best as possible so
that we wouldn't get, you know,

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bringing down while we were trying to
do it. So this place, when

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you pull in, it's a whole
bunch of winding turns and campsites that are

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set up, and then you can
go up. There's one road and it

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follows you to the parking field,
and the parking fieldg is there's a big

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open space, and then beyond that
it's just all dense woods. So it

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was pitch black by the time we
got there, and we pulled into the

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parking space in the parking field,
and I remember getting out of the car

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because my uncle had his high beams
on. He had a Cadillac Escalade that

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he was driving, and I remember
getting out of the car and looking because

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I was always a little uneasy about
dense woods at night. I don't know

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why. It's just how I bent
since I was a kid. But I

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remember looking over there and that's when
I noticed the eye shine. And I

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didn't know a whole lot about nature
and eyeshine and stuff like that at the

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time. You know, I saw
wildlie during the day, but never really

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at night. So I pointed,
you know, I called over to my

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uncle and I said, look at
that. You know, I says,

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is that like deer or something like
that? And I remember his face just

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turned concerned right off the bat,
and that bothered me because my uncle was

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the type of person he was not
scared of anything. He was he was

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out of his fucking mind. And
I mean that in the nicest way possible.

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There was not much this man were
scared of. So when I saw

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a concerned look on his face,
that made me really nervous from the start.

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And he kind of just brushed it
off, and he was like,

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you know, just don't pay attention
to that. Just get the tent of

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you know, we're about to get
ringing on him. So we did that,

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and think he had the sense enough
about him that night that he took

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a blue tar and you know the
little holes that come in the tarp little

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metal rings. He tied it up
to the part of the tent where the

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poles come out from underneath the tent
because we can't get a great view of

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where we were that night, and
we were worried that wherever we were there

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was a chance that rain was gonna
come under the tent. And thank god

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he did that because that night I
woke up probably one am from the thunder

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and there was a river running under
the tent. So we survived that night,

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thankfully, And I just had this
feeling that there was just something off.

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I couldn't shake it when the time
we woke up that morning and we

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left to go to Bear Mountain to
go ATVing, and it wasn't just us,

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it was his friend had a camper
that was just probably a few sites

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up from us, up on a
hill, and it was usually a big

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group of us that went together,
but we were all spread out all over

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the campsite, so it was just
us kind of alone near the parking field.

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And I think that's probably why I
felt the way that I did,

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because we were so close to what
we had seen that night, so we

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kind of just forgot about it.
Went off roading that had a blast and

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I remember we were parking the field, we had the trailers unloaded, and

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it was about probably two hours before
we were set to leave. We heard

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people screaming, just bloody murder,
screaming, Now there's bears up there,

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so we thought that that was it. These people in their ATV came pulling

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ass out of the trail and they
just like maniacs, went to their car,

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which was just a few cars down
from where we were parked, and

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started loading everything up as quick as
we could. And my uncle went up

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to them to try and say,
is there a bear back there? They

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wouldn't even these people wouldn't even acknowledge
him. They it was like he didn't

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exist. He was trying to get
their attention to see, like, you

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know, what's going on? You
know, is there something we need to

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be worried about. They didn't acknowledge
him the whole time. They packed up

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as best as they could and sped
out of there. We should have known

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after that that we should have just
fucking left and went home, because after

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that it just gave off on top
of the night before that, it just

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gave off bad Jushu that something was
not right. So that kind of killed

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the mood after that, because everybody
was really concerned about what was going on,

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and we figured, you know what, let's just take the lost We're

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going to come back tomorrow anyway,
packed the stuff up and we'll go back

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to the campsite to eat. So
we got back to the campsite and it

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was just about dusk and my uncle, wherever we went camping, he bought

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this huge old school white eagle was
cooler with it, and you know,

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I don't know if you know what
I'm talking about. They had the double

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doors on it, and that's where
we had all food, the fruit,

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everything, it was all stored in
there. And I guess we were so

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tired that night that we made the
mistake of not putting the cooler in the

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truck in the escalator. So that's
probably what set this whole thing in motion.

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So I was exhausted and everybody else
was too. We went to bed,

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and I till this day, I
cannot figure out what woke me up

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that night, but I remember waking
up. I'm not one hundred percent sure

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what time it was because this was
before the age of cell phones. I

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didn't have a cell phone or anything. It is two thousand and five,

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so it was, you know,
just entering that error. But I was

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fifteen. I didn't have a cell
phone with me, you know, kids

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didn't have cell phones then, it's
not like today. And I remember waking

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up and I just had this terrible
feeling like something was fucking wrong. And

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I turned to my right, which
is where my uncle was sleeping, off

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to the side of me, and
I noticed he was already up and the

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tent that we had, because you
know, the mountains in Massachusetts during that

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time of year, you get that
cool breeze blown at night. You want

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the top off. It blows right
on your face, keeps you nice and

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comfortable at night. But there was
you know, see you through mesh that

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it wasn't a big tent, so
if you sat up, you could see

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through to the outside. And I
remember seeing his face and he was ghost

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white and he was staring at something, and I nudged him to ask him,

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you know, what was going on, because I've never seen a look

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of concern on this man's face like
that before, and I automatically knew something

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was really fucking wrong. And then
I turned my head to see what he

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was looking at. And that's when
I saw two of them, and I

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let out a gasp because I was
not prepared for what I had just looked

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at. And they were fucking massive. So my uncle's escalade, I remember

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the one. Its waist was up
to the window on the driver's side,

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so this thing was towering over the
escalade like it could probably we see over

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the escalate no problem, like did
a clear view. And the other one

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was staring at my uncle and it
did not look happy, and I guessed

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and it was just involuntary. I
had no way to control it. And

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that's when it turned its attention to
me. And the crazy thing was,

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once it did that, it's whole
demeanor changed. It went from looking pissed

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off and angry too gentle. I
guess that's the best way I could put

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it. And that's what was the
craziest part about it. It was,

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you know, when I was I've
always had the type of a baby face

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when I was younger, so it
must have realized I was just a kid

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at the time, and I don't
know if that's what it was, but

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that's how I reasoned it, that
it realized he had a kid with him,

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and it like not, you know, it turned it down. It

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didn't want to scare me, and
I remember when I first looked at it,

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my stomach turned, like my nerves
were just all bunched up, and

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it was almost like I was going
to throw up because I was just so

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scared. I was trembling, and
it was like I just I didn't know

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what was happening. It was like
being in a horror movie where you just

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couldn't I didn't know anything about this
stuff. Then, you know, I

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grew up in the suburbs of Long
Island. Nobody talks about that stuff there,

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so it was like my brain was
just trying to process what I was

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looking at, and when I couldn't
find an answer, I was starting to

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freak out. And the other crazy
part was once it's demeanor change, there

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was this calmness that rushed over me. And I don't know what caused it,

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because I went from freaking out,
almost having a panic attack, to

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this warm, relaxed feeling. And
once that happened, my uncle finally snapped

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out of the trance he was in
and once he saw me looking at it,

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he pulled me back and just kind
of shoved my face into the sleeping

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bag and he I remember him saying, don't fucking move, and that's when

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I heard it speak. It was
just one word, and I will remember

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it. It seared into my brain
and it said Enoch. At least that's

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how I remember it, Enoch.
And I don't know if it was talking

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to the other one or what.
But right after that I heard some commotion

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and these things tore us out of
our camp and I don't know why I

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got up to look again, but
I did. These things covered three hundred

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yards in probably four seconds. And
the crazy thing was it took our cooler

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with them, because I guess it
must have been the one side of the

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cooler had a hinge that was broken
those clamp so it never stayed close,

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so I guess it looked in there
so all the goodies that we had,

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and it was like, well,
I'm not this is coming with us,

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whether you like it or not.
And I remember as it ran into the

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woods, it sounded like a fucking
bulldozer was going through those woods. And

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what creeped me out even more as
it went into the woods, there were

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three more sets of eyeshine that came
over as soon as these things entered the

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woods. I don't know if it
was like they were watching out for them

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or what. So there was five
all together, and just the fact that

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I knew that there was five of
these things out there, I was freaking

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out. And I remember after it
left, that calmness feeling just left,

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and I was back into panic mode
and I was begging my uncle to just

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please leave. And that was the
first time I normally he's like, I

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just suck it up. You know
it's gonna be okay, don't be scared.

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He said, fuck it. We
didn't even take the He got us

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all in the car and drove us
up to the trailer that his friend was

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staying at, and I remember he
was in a complete panic. He was

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knocking on the door, and you
know, that's when they knew something was

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wrong, because for my uncle will
people to be knocking on your door at

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whatever time it was in a panic, something is wrong. So thankfully they

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were nice enough to let us stay
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next morning very early. My uncle
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and that was the last time we
ever went there. He never wanted to

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go back to that place after.
And this was probably one of his favorite

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spots, aside from Kinnatinny that he
enjoyed going to, and he wouldn't talk

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about it with me the whole ride
home. He didn't want to speak of

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it. It was like he just
wanted to forget it. And I remember

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his escalated had his son roof and
he pulled the sunroof back as we were

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driving down the mountain in the shade, and I was looking at it as

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the sunroof was opening, and before
the glass opened. Once the shade pulled

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back, there was a perfect handprint
on the glass and it was so big

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it was pretty much overlapping the sun
roof. That's how big this print was.

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So after that, he refused to
talk about it with me, and

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I had so many questions because I
wanted to know what the hell happened that

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night, because I still have nightmares
about it until this day. I'm not

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ashamed to admit that there's still times
I go to bed and it's like I'm

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back in that place, or it's
some type of similar scenario, and I'll

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wake up in a cold sweat because
it freaks me the fuck out. And

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unfortunately he's passed away now, But
even when I knew he was coming to

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the end, I figured I want
to give this one more shot to talk

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about it with him. He wouldn't
do it. Even when he was on

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his deathbed, he wanted nothing to
do with that night. Ever, again

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he refused to talk about it.
He was the type that didn't like anything

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he couldn't rationally explain. He was
very devoted Catholic and if it couldn't be

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explained by God or some other reasonable
scientific explanation, he didn't want anything to

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do with it, and he would
get angry at me because there were times

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over the years I begged him to
just talk about it with me so we

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could see you if you both saw
the same thing, you know, did

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we really both see this? Did
that really happen? And he would he

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would get angry and he would just
don't. I don't want to talk about

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it, and that was the end
of it. So it kind of bugs

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me that we never really had a
serious conversation about it till this day,

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you know, and that'll never happen. But yeah, that night was that

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was something. It was bizarre,
It really really was. You know.

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You go from I think in the
world is one way one minute to having

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that all shattered in just a few
moments. It's uh, it messages you

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up pretty good. It really really
does. And I don't talk about it

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with most people anyway, because I
know how people are about it, and

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I just I don't want to.
I don't have the patience for it,

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you know. And the way I'm
thinking is, you know, if you

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want to be ignorant and just refuse
to believe that these things are out there,

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that's I'm not going to sit there
and beg you to believe it.

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I know what I saw, you
know it. Uh, it's scary that

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these things are out there, and
uh, we're being looked at as the

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crazy ones. There's something really wrong
with that. Just God, we should

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so impress it. How big they
were. That's what really got me,

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how fucking massive these things were.
I'm sorry for the for the cursed words.

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I grew up an Italian family,
so it's it's a second language to

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me. But yeah, that was
a that was a hell of a night,

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that's for sure, TJ. That's
that's wild. That's I mean,

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first off, I'm sorry you lost
your uncle. Thank you. First it

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was I appreciate that. So just
the one left detail that I don't want

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to forget to tell you. After
we left, about a week later,

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we got a call from the person
that ran in the campsite saying that our

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pooler was found in the parking field
and the doors were ri off the hinges,

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and they you know, they called
my uncle and they were yelling at

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him, why did you do that
and leave your cool there? And he's

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you know, he tried. I
don't know what exactly he told them,

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but I don't know if he said
a beartout into it or something like that.

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It was something along those lines,
because he didn't even want to tell

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those people what he saw. And
I think he was more pissed because I

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think he knew that the people when
that campsite knew these things are there.

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Just when I go back and look
at it, this is not the first

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time they've done that. This is
not the first time those things have gone

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into somebody's camp and took something.
Well, the first time they had an

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interaction with people at that campsite,
they were way too calm about it,

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you know, even though like I
said, they had that one had a

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grimacing face, just that fuck around
and find out face when he was looking

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at my uncle. You could tell
it. It was just like posturing,

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like just let me do what I'm
gonna do when I'm gonna leave, you

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know. But the other scary thing
was, you know, when you look

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back and realize it, just those
two things alone could have tore us through

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that entire campsite and nobody would have
been able to do anything about it.

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They could have done anything they wanted
to to those campsites or anybody that was

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there that night, and nobody wouldn't
been able to stop them. Just the

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size of them and the muscular the
muscles they had on them, I don't

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think anybody could have done anything.
And by the time somebody called for help,

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it would have been too late.
And I think that's what scared me

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the most. Powerless, you know, I felt in that situation, I

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had no control over it. And
I'm the type of person that doesn't like

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that I have to be in control
of certain things or I just I'm not

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cool with it. And knowing I
was just completely powerless to everything that was

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happening that night is what really I
think pushed it over for me. That's

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what really just fucked everything up for
me camping wise, and I don't enjoy

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it the same way that I used
to, or if I do go camping,

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I know it's going to be in
a really well populated area where you

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know, it's not super dense woods
or anything like that, because I just

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I can't enjoy it anymore. And
it's it sucks that it's like that,

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but it's just that every time,
like I get into it, you know,

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a dense area like that, that's
feeling just replays in my head of

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how I felt with that, the
pure terror that was flowing through me that

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night, and I just can't do
it. I can't do with it.

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But yeah, sorry, I just
wanted to add that in before I forgot

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my ad adhd bring skips over details. It's hard. I totally get that.

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I'm right there with you. Wow, that is an extremely intense encounter.

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Thank you for sharing that. It
sounds like you haven't really shared it

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to many people at all, and
like I said, it's because I just

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don't want to deal with They're really
cool, you know, because it's something

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I take seriously because it did affect
me in a very physical way, not

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just emotionally, you know, it
affected me in a physical way. So

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it's to even talk to anybody that's
just going to sit there and laugh at

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you. It's I'll snap because I
know how I felt that night, and

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I'm not going to deal with somebody
making fun of it. You know,

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if I know somebody really wants to
hear it, I will tell it,

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but to just some random person.
Now. That's why I was comfortable to

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come on here, because I listened
to your episodes and I saw how serious

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you take this. You know,
I know this is the hobby for you.

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No, this is it, man, dude, this is it for

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I'm not even kidding for the next
thirty years at least. This is it,

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Like I take it extremely seriously.
So is that okay? If I

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ask you a few questions about things
from that night, it sounds like you've

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you got a pretty good look at
the two creatures. Do you remember any

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details about how the face looked.
I know you've said that you saw emotions,

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but do you remember anything any other
details? Yeah? So the one

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the one thing was why I was
able to make them out so clearly was

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because our campfire was still going just
enough that it was shining light on them.

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And the creepiest part was the one
that was standing on the opposite side

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of the fire. I could see
its hair, which it had like it

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was almost like a reddish brown,
but the fire was causing it to also

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have eyes shine at the same time. So this thing was no more than

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ten yards away from me, but
it was staring at me with its eyes

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glowing. And that's probably what set
me off to just go into panic motor

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because it was just so not normal
the way it was, you know,

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it was like a staring a hole
for my soul type of thing, right.

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And then the other one that was
off to the snide by my uncle's

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truck, it was also the same. It had reddish brown hair, and

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that was the bigger one. I
think that one if from looking back at

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it in my head, that one
probably had a foot and a half on

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the other one maybe a little more. I couldn't tell the eye color on

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that one because of how dark it
was, and it was far enough from

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the fire that it I guess the
angle it was that wasn't catching that eye

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shine. I don't know if it
has. The light has to hit the

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eyes a certain way for that to
happen. But I remember you could see

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this part of the face here and
everything else was just hair like it had

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a super long beard and then the
long hair that kind of went back at

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its head. It was kind of
matted, but it was also it seemed

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like it was well kept. It
looked on some places like sleek, like

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it was being brushed, almost like
they take care of themselves. The hands

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were massive, and that I could
tell that even before we found that handprint

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on the window of the sun roof. I mean, it could probably put

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its toll hand around my head and
squish it no problems, especially then when

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I was fifteen. They were also
the arms were insanely long. I remember

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that, like abnormally long compared to
us. I couldn't tell where they how

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far they went down, But because
they were kind of like this, their

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arms weren't down at their sides.
They were up in the air, So

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I don't know, you know,
I know a lot of people say they

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go below the knees. I would
have to say they probably definitely did,

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but I can't say it for sure, because like I said that, they

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weren't hanging down. They weren't like
just staying there. You could tell they

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were investigating our campsite. They were
trying to figure out what they could take

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from us, at least that's what
I think they were doing, especially since

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they just took the whole cooler and
ran off. And the other thing that

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I know that the arms were insanely
long, because this thing picked up an

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insanely large, big glu cooler like
it was carrying baby and ran off with

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ease. So the muscle, I
mean, this thing was packed with ice.

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I mean it was only there for
a night, and those things held

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ice for days. So the fact
that this thing picked it up one hand

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and just kind of punched it over
on its side like it was it was

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nothing and ran off was just it
was nuts when you know, when I

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go back and think about it,
just knowing how much weight that probably had.

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That me and my uncle, two
people were having trouble lifting that thing,

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and this thing picked it up like
a baby. That's that's scary.

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That's a that's a scary level of
strength right there. The one thing I

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don't remember is the feet. Okay, I don't remember looking down there.

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I was so focused on the face
and the body that I just didn't look

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down there. I would have to
say they were male. That I would

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have to say. I didn't notice
any female features on them. They were

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definitely, you know, broad chested
for sure. You know you could tell

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there was a lot of muscle up
here, and that was I mean,

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the hair on it was really thick. So the fact you could see the

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muscle under the hair was really impressive. Did you I know you already kind

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of talked about how how they were
in you know how looking at the escalade

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and how one of them looked next
to it. If you had to estimate

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like how tall each of them were, would you be able to estimate the

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height of them? The big one
had to be easily over ten feet over

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because I know the top of the
escalade I think it's about six feet maybe

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six to two if I'm remembering right, And this thing towered over it.

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I mean it was just it was
almost comical how much bigger this thing was

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that and it escalates not small car
truck, I mean it's big. So

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the fact this thing just towered over
it, and like I said, it's

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hip was at the glass like the
window of the of the passenger side.

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So that should give you an idea
of how massive this thing was. Because

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me standing at the I'm five eleven, so me standing at the passenger side

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of an escalade probably goes up to
here on the least. So the fact

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that that was its waist, I
mean, shit, yeah, I can't

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give you an accurate number, but
just just a guesstimate, it had to

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be over ten feet. Were you
able to notice did you notice anything about

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the mouth, like, could you
see teeth anything like that? Yes,

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I could see teeth from the first
one because it was almost like a smile

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when it was looking at my uncle. But it wasn't a smile. It

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was like a I don't know what
a I have a husky. So if

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my husky goes after pright, you
know how its lip comes up, you

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know it dog and it shows its
teeth. That's that's what it looked like

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it was doing. So I couldn't
see the color, but I could see

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teeth. That that was plain this
day. The lips, I don't know.

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I don't know the color works were
I really don't it was. You

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know, it's a weird combination of
being a blur and steered into my mind

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same time, if that makes sense. Absolutely, yeah, seeing the teeth

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on one of the creatures, were
able to see what the shape of the

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teeth were at all. Our teeth
Okay. That was the first thing I

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knowed. Our teeth really just much
bigger, okay. And so that being

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that, like how they were rounded, Yeah, no, I mean it's

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it's Joel. It looked like they
go like that. It didn't look like

409
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the flat or anything like that.
It looked like they curved to the side

410
00:31:34.920 --> 00:31:41.480
almost. Oh. Wow, you
were able to see the eyes correct?

411
00:31:41.200 --> 00:31:47.240
Yes? Did you notice anything about
the pupils, So, the one I

412
00:31:47.519 --> 00:31:49.079
couldn't see its pupils because like I
said, it was given off that eyes

413
00:31:49.119 --> 00:31:53.440
trying and glow right. The other
one they just looked black. Now I

414
00:31:53.440 --> 00:31:59.160
don't know if that was because it
was dark, but I didn't notice really

415
00:31:59.160 --> 00:32:04.319
any white and the it just looked
black like it was like staring into a

416
00:32:04.359 --> 00:32:12.839
hole. Almost the nose of the
creatures. Did you notice anything out of

417
00:32:12.880 --> 00:32:15.559
the ordinary about the nose, like
how it was shaped more like a gorilla,

418
00:32:15.680 --> 00:32:19.559
more like a human. It looked
more like you know how we have

419
00:32:19.640 --> 00:32:23.680
like a ridge here. Theres looked
more like it went down like this didn't

420
00:32:23.720 --> 00:32:31.400
stick out as much, went like
that type of thing flat flattened. Yeah,

421
00:32:31.480 --> 00:32:35.240
the bridge of the nose didn't look
like it was there. Wow.

422
00:32:38.559 --> 00:32:45.640
What about the forehead above the eyes
of that area. How would you describe

423
00:32:45.680 --> 00:32:51.440
that? That was just skin?
Okay? There was no hair that I

424
00:32:51.440 --> 00:32:55.359
could notice, and I didn't notice
that the one when it was like snarling

425
00:32:55.359 --> 00:33:01.319
at my uncle, you could see
the wrinkles and its forehead and it were

426
00:33:01.359 --> 00:33:06.160
so prominent. It looked like it
had like almost extra skin there, like

427
00:33:06.200 --> 00:33:10.279
when when it did that, clearly
see the bumps from it from it doing

428
00:33:10.319 --> 00:33:16.400
that. Gotcha. You were able
to see hair on the creatures. It

429
00:33:16.480 --> 00:33:24.799
sounded like how long would you estimate
that the hair was? I could compare

430
00:33:24.799 --> 00:33:30.079
it to my hull sky It was
like husky length hair almost, so a

431
00:33:30.079 --> 00:33:38.519
few inches yeah, yeah, okay, you mentioned that there was almost like

432
00:33:38.759 --> 00:33:43.920
kind of a mane of hair or
were you able to see a shape to

433
00:33:43.960 --> 00:33:51.920
the head through that? I didn't
notice that. It didn't go like you

434
00:33:51.960 --> 00:33:57.880
know, our heads are like rounded
right before it went back? Okay,

435
00:34:00.240 --> 00:34:07.279
trying to what to compare that to, I don't know. It just looked

436
00:34:07.279 --> 00:34:10.519
like elongated almost. It almost looked
like it was elongated at the top,

437
00:34:12.679 --> 00:34:15.639
like there was extra like their skulls
weren't round at the top. Was this

438
00:34:15.920 --> 00:34:23.119
thing? Was this your first introduction
to anything with Bigfoot. Yes, okay,

439
00:34:23.159 --> 00:34:29.320
because so this is where it's interesting
because any other person that I asked

440
00:34:29.360 --> 00:34:32.719
that question, they would have been
like this, But the fact that you

441
00:34:32.920 --> 00:34:38.400
have to like think of how to
describe that man is very Yeah. Wow,

442
00:34:38.599 --> 00:34:43.199
so this is your first this incident
is your first foray into big Foot.

443
00:34:43.239 --> 00:34:46.280
It's not like you're watching the documentaries
and in search of like this is

444
00:34:46.320 --> 00:34:54.880
not you while on the suburbs Long
Island life trying to like other people do.

445
00:34:55.679 --> 00:35:00.039
I was always outdoors, you know
that, That's what That's where I

446
00:35:00.079 --> 00:35:02.039
lived with my friends. We were
on our bikes, you know, causing

447
00:35:02.079 --> 00:35:07.199
some type of mischief or playing video
games or I didn't even know it was

448
00:35:07.199 --> 00:35:13.480
a thing. That's really why it
so the only mythology that I knew before

449
00:35:13.559 --> 00:35:16.239
this was I don't know, if
you've ever heard of snipes. Yeah,

450
00:35:16.960 --> 00:35:22.679
it's not real. It's absolutely doubles
made up around the campfire, and it's

451
00:35:22.840 --> 00:35:25.079
scare kids. And when we would
go on these camping trips, like I

452
00:35:25.119 --> 00:35:28.800
said, there's always a big group
of us. At night. They used

453
00:35:28.800 --> 00:35:31.719
to take the kids snipe hunting,
and the adults would hide in the forest

454
00:35:31.800 --> 00:35:36.519
and they would jump out and scare
us. That's the most I knew about

455
00:35:36.519 --> 00:35:44.840
anything. Wow, that was it. This is very, very wild.

456
00:35:47.599 --> 00:35:51.880
The way that the creature looked to
you. Is this something that you would

457
00:35:51.920 --> 00:35:57.519
more see in like a zoo type
setting, or like you would almost see

458
00:35:57.679 --> 00:36:00.159
like you could be walking in the
city and you might see a person that

459
00:36:00.239 --> 00:36:07.760
looks kind of similar to how they
looked. There were features about it that

460
00:36:07.760 --> 00:36:10.199
are definitely human. But if you
saw on one of these things walking in

461
00:36:10.280 --> 00:36:17.239
the city, you're gonna know.
Okay, it was that different. I

462
00:36:17.239 --> 00:36:23.679
guess unevolved. It's the best way. It's like almost human, but not

463
00:36:24.079 --> 00:36:32.559
modern human. Okay, yep.
I wouldn't say cave man, but I

464
00:36:32.559 --> 00:36:42.000
guess somewhere in between that. Were
there anything anything you noticed about the creatures

465
00:36:42.039 --> 00:36:47.199
that reminded you of different apes or
monkeys that you would see in the zoo.

466
00:36:47.199 --> 00:36:51.159
I'm gonna get flack for that question, but I'm just gonna ask it.

467
00:36:52.199 --> 00:36:55.320
No, Now, this thing didn't
look like that. I mean,

468
00:36:55.360 --> 00:37:00.320
I guess there were some similarities,
but no, No, I would never

469
00:37:00.360 --> 00:37:04.719
go to a zoo and think a
gorilla looks like a big foot or a

470
00:37:04.840 --> 00:37:08.920
chimp. It's no or like antan. I'm not. I'm not going to

471
00:37:08.960 --> 00:37:12.280
sit here and say that they all
look the same, you know, I

472
00:37:12.280 --> 00:37:17.880
don't who the fuck knows that?
No, but no, I wouldn't mistaken

473
00:37:19.039 --> 00:37:22.960
a gorilla or a chimp for it. It sounds like you saw them move

474
00:37:22.000 --> 00:37:27.960
a bit. Was there anything about
the way that they moved that was weird,

475
00:37:28.000 --> 00:37:31.079
like the way that they were running
or walking, anything out of the

476
00:37:31.199 --> 00:37:39.480
ordinary about their gait? From what
I saw, it was I hope this

477
00:37:39.559 --> 00:37:47.440
is the right word, methodic.
Every movement looked like it was for a

478
00:37:47.519 --> 00:37:54.000
reason. And the other crazy thing
that I noticed was when they ran off,

479
00:37:55.000 --> 00:37:59.880
I didn't hear a fucking thing,
Okay, and you would think so

480
00:38:00.119 --> 00:38:02.760
in that big until they got to
the forest. That's when I heard them

481
00:38:02.760 --> 00:38:07.679
crashing through trees. Before that,
when they were running through the field,

482
00:38:07.719 --> 00:38:13.519
I didn't hear anything. It was
almost like they were running in silent mode.

483
00:38:13.719 --> 00:38:16.880
And that I couldn't explain that because
well, like I said, as

484
00:38:16.920 --> 00:38:21.079
big as these things were, if
they were running, you would think you

485
00:38:21.119 --> 00:38:24.159
would hear it. And it was
like almost somehow they were running in a

486
00:38:24.199 --> 00:38:31.400
way that they weren't making sound,
which really creep me out when I thought

487
00:38:31.400 --> 00:38:35.000
about it. You know, that
the longer time goes on, you start

488
00:38:35.039 --> 00:38:40.760
thinking about stuff and start analyzing things
a little differently, And the more I

489
00:38:40.760 --> 00:38:46.239
put the details together, the more
it creeps me out because the fact one

490
00:38:46.280 --> 00:38:49.639
of these things could run and not
make a noise. I mean, you

491
00:38:49.639 --> 00:38:51.559
could be in the middle of the
forest. One of these things will sneak

492
00:38:51.639 --> 00:38:58.480
up on you. Fucking know it's
there. Yeah, and the fact something

493
00:38:58.519 --> 00:39:07.760
that they can do that is crazy. It is wild. So you having

494
00:39:07.840 --> 00:39:13.800
no introduction to bigfoot before this,
did you have anything in your mind then

495
00:39:14.119 --> 00:39:16.320
that told you, Okay, what
am I looking at right now? Or

496
00:39:16.400 --> 00:39:21.440
you were just you had no idea
what you were looking at. I didn't

497
00:39:21.480 --> 00:39:23.599
know. I had not a clue. To me. It was like a

498
00:39:23.639 --> 00:39:27.760
monster. That was how my brain
was reasoning it at the moment. It

499
00:39:27.800 --> 00:39:31.360
was like a real life monster.
It was like something out of a Stephen

500
00:39:31.400 --> 00:39:37.639
King Nobles Stephen King novel had come
to life. You've already mentioned that you

501
00:39:37.800 --> 00:39:46.400
do have nightmares about this continuously,
and so that was I'm going to guess,

502
00:39:46.559 --> 00:39:51.400
I mean, what's been going on
for like twenty years? Yeah,

503
00:39:51.480 --> 00:39:59.199
it's been a while, okay,
is it just a replaying of the events.

504
00:39:59.480 --> 00:40:06.000
Usually when and you have those.
Sometimes I am back in that scenario.

505
00:40:06.840 --> 00:40:13.239
Other times it's something completely different.
But I am in the woods and

506
00:40:13.519 --> 00:40:16.360
I know something is coming, and
I could hear it and I know what

507
00:40:16.440 --> 00:40:22.039
it is, and I'm panicking the
whole dream, and then it's almost like,

508
00:40:22.119 --> 00:40:25.480
right before I see it, I
wake up. Did they ever talk

509
00:40:25.519 --> 00:40:32.480
to in the dreams or anything like
that? Every once in a while,

510
00:40:32.519 --> 00:40:37.599
I'll hear that one word that I
mentioned to you, the word knock,

511
00:40:37.639 --> 00:40:44.320
yeah, k or something like that. It was the fact that it talked

512
00:40:44.519 --> 00:40:51.719
was just fucking weird because how deep
it was. It wasn't like me and

513
00:40:51.760 --> 00:40:54.920
you talking right now, so it
had so much base in its voice.

514
00:40:58.119 --> 00:41:02.400
Have you ever looked into what that
word might mean? No, I don't.

515
00:41:02.400 --> 00:41:09.280
I'm not even sure it's a real, real word it is. I

516
00:41:09.320 --> 00:41:16.119
can tell you it's a real word. It's a religious word. The Book

517
00:41:16.159 --> 00:41:24.480
of Enoch has to do with uh. It's one of the books that weren't

518
00:41:24.800 --> 00:41:30.440
put into the canon of the Bible, and it has to do with things

519
00:41:30.599 --> 00:41:36.599
like the Nephilum, which is like, uh, you know, the giants

520
00:41:37.800 --> 00:41:42.079
you may have heard of, and
some people think that those are related to

521
00:41:42.239 --> 00:41:50.079
Bigfoot, but it's it's very very
interesting that that's excuse me, the one

522
00:41:50.119 --> 00:41:55.199
word that they said, that's It's
going to take me a while to process

523
00:41:55.239 --> 00:42:00.719
that. For sure. I'm very
familiar with that area since my grandparents lived

524
00:42:00.800 --> 00:42:07.360
in Great Bearrington, so I spent
it is beautiful area. I was not

525
00:42:07.400 --> 00:42:12.199
in to bigfoot at the time because
I was a little kid, but I'm

526
00:42:12.320 --> 00:42:15.960
very familiar with the Great Bearrington area
my my father grew up there. Western

527
00:42:15.960 --> 00:42:22.320
Massachusetts is extremely wild, and I
have no doubt in my mind that there

528
00:42:22.320 --> 00:42:30.679
are big foot in western Massachusetts,
especially around that area. I'm pretty sure

529
00:42:30.679 --> 00:42:37.320
I'm aware of which that that Bear
Mountain area. There's a few different places

530
00:42:37.320 --> 00:42:45.239
it might be, but it's man, I was just just imagining the woods

531
00:42:45.239 --> 00:42:50.400
out there. You know that the
phrase is that there will be dragons out

532
00:42:50.440 --> 00:42:54.039
in western Massachusetts because it is wild
out there. You know, Massachusetts is

533
00:42:54.039 --> 00:42:59.000
not just Boston, it is you
get out, that's kind of place you

534
00:42:59.039 --> 00:43:02.119
want to be at at night with
no flash. I remember that one of

535
00:43:02.159 --> 00:43:06.039
the first times I ventured up that
far as a kid, That's when I

536
00:43:06.039 --> 00:43:10.400
found out what true darkness was.
Absolutely absolutely and you know, we went

537
00:43:10.559 --> 00:43:15.880
hiking uh in an area we went
camping out in this meadow and we were

538
00:43:15.960 --> 00:43:19.159
just camping in the middle of this
meadow, and one night we had a

539
00:43:19.159 --> 00:43:22.760
pack of coyotes just like run through
the middle of the field, jump over

540
00:43:22.800 --> 00:43:25.840
people sleeping bags, like it's a
wild place out there. Have you ever

541
00:43:25.880 --> 00:43:31.079
done any research to see if there
are any other incidents that happened in that

542
00:43:31.119 --> 00:43:40.960
same area? Big for related I
browsed. The problem is I couldn't figure

543
00:43:40.960 --> 00:43:46.519
out how they use some of the
maps. But there's one I stumbled a

544
00:43:46.559 --> 00:43:50.559
course that was like woodip or something
like that. But I think those settings

545
00:43:50.559 --> 00:43:53.599
were only limited to like the middle
like Texas. Yeah, they're going to

546
00:43:53.639 --> 00:43:59.519
be more Oklahoma in Texas. YEP. I come across a couple of years

547
00:43:59.519 --> 00:44:04.840
ago this one map that gave so
many sightings. I can't find it again,

548
00:44:06.079 --> 00:44:13.599
but it had a lot in the
northeast area, and I remember trying

549
00:44:13.639 --> 00:44:16.079
to look one night and it was
like really fidgety, so it crashed a

550
00:44:16.079 --> 00:44:19.360
lot and I had kind of given
up on it, and then I went

551
00:44:19.400 --> 00:44:25.440
to find it again. It was
gone, but it looked like you know

552
00:44:25.519 --> 00:44:30.679
that one picture floating around that shows
the sightings, and it's like the whole

553
00:44:30.800 --> 00:44:35.880
United States. Yeap, it looked
like in the aspect of the markers that

554
00:44:35.920 --> 00:44:38.719
they used, the little Bigfoot.
That's what it exactly looked like on that

555
00:44:38.760 --> 00:44:42.920
map that I pulled up that night, except it was virtual and you consuming

556
00:44:43.280 --> 00:44:47.599
places and see the reports. One
you could look up that would be really

557
00:44:47.599 --> 00:44:52.000
similar to that, and that's really
good is if you got a bigfootmap dot

558
00:44:52.039 --> 00:44:59.199
com. It's Bigfoot Mapping project and
it takes data from all different parts of

559
00:44:59.559 --> 00:45:04.760
places, and it's that would give
you the info that you'd be looking for.

560
00:45:04.760 --> 00:45:07.599
For sure. I'm not going to
lie for a while. I'm too

561
00:45:07.599 --> 00:45:12.079
scared to look. Yeah, no, I bet. I mean when you

562
00:45:12.079 --> 00:45:15.800
when you bring these feelings back out
in yourself at all, it's hard to

563
00:45:15.840 --> 00:45:20.679
deal with it, really fucking is. I don't, like I said,

564
00:45:20.679 --> 00:45:27.840
I'm not the type of person likes
feeling that way. So and never it

565
00:45:27.880 --> 00:45:30.840
feels like you've never been drawn to
go back to that place. Ever,

566
00:45:30.920 --> 00:45:37.480
it's that's a never go back there, wants to m The common sense side

567
00:45:37.480 --> 00:45:45.079
of me not so much. Yeah, I mean, you just wait until

568
00:45:45.119 --> 00:45:50.960
you find out where I live here. In a minute, you have heard

569
00:45:51.000 --> 00:45:55.800
of Yuari. You live in North
Carolina. Oh, sorry, you live

570
00:45:55.840 --> 00:46:00.360
in then you are a National forest
ten minutes above it. Holy mackrel,

571
00:46:00.800 --> 00:46:07.039
dude, Holy goodness, Oh my
goodness, did you know about it when

572
00:46:07.079 --> 00:46:10.920
you moved there after we moved here, Holy mackerel, you moved right into

573
00:46:12.519 --> 00:46:17.119
the middle of the fire like.
One of the craziest areas for bigfoot sightings

574
00:46:17.440 --> 00:46:22.800
North Carolina is nuts in that area. Oh my god, the Devil's Tramping

575
00:46:22.840 --> 00:46:28.119
Grounds. No, you go look
that up after we get off this.

576
00:46:28.400 --> 00:46:36.880
Okay, you're gonna you're gonna have
your mind blown. Really yeah, I

577
00:46:36.920 --> 00:46:39.440
will definitely let me make a note
of that real quick. But if you

578
00:46:39.559 --> 00:46:45.880
ever are out this way, there's
oh, I guess the name of the

579
00:46:45.960 --> 00:46:50.960
road, but the rust stop is
called El Dorado yep, and it's right

580
00:46:50.960 --> 00:46:53.119
in the middle of you are in
national forest and the entire store is dedicated

581
00:46:53.159 --> 00:46:59.519
to bigfoot exactly. Yeah. I've
talked to a few at least one person

582
00:46:59.639 --> 00:47:02.519
that lives in the middle of that
forest and they were, I mean,

583
00:47:02.519 --> 00:47:13.559
their house was being just attacked by
some creature, which they feel is bigfoot

584
00:47:13.719 --> 00:47:20.880
is because they were pretty much doing
landscaping on their property. But so you

585
00:47:20.960 --> 00:47:23.760
live a few minutes away from there, that's why have you ever gone to

586
00:47:23.840 --> 00:47:30.639
the forest done any hiking in there? Not yet? Okay, Yeah,

587
00:47:30.159 --> 00:47:32.559
it's going to take some courage to
must were up for that one. But

588
00:47:32.639 --> 00:47:36.639
I mean, I can't say that
the whole area, you know, write

589
00:47:36.639 --> 00:47:42.719
it off, because they have road
trails there, they have really nice cabins

590
00:47:42.760 --> 00:47:45.960
for camping, and then there's bed
and lake that you could just go pull

591
00:47:45.000 --> 00:47:47.679
your RV right up next to it, And I mean, I would be

592
00:47:47.719 --> 00:47:52.000
stupid to not use that just because
you know what happened. And you know,

593
00:47:52.199 --> 00:47:55.199
I got two kids now that are
going to want to experience all that

594
00:47:55.239 --> 00:48:00.880
stuff. You know, I'm not
going to keep them inside and right experienced

595
00:48:00.239 --> 00:48:06.360
nature because something happened to me,
you know exactly. Yeah, that's not

596
00:48:06.599 --> 00:48:13.280
the only thing that you've had happened
to you big for related Yeah, So

597
00:48:13.320 --> 00:48:22.360
that was last year, before the
birth of my second son. We went

598
00:48:22.400 --> 00:48:30.400
out to Tennessee two stay up in
the mountains to go see Dolly World.

599
00:48:31.480 --> 00:48:36.519
And you know, that whole area
down there is just a tourist trap.

600
00:48:37.039 --> 00:48:40.280
So you know, my wife couldn't
do much because she was two months away

601
00:48:40.280 --> 00:48:44.679
from give them birth. So we
found this nice cabin in the woods the

602
00:48:44.679 --> 00:48:50.000
one that I had sent you,
and I remember when we got there that

603
00:48:50.119 --> 00:48:55.519
night, I had that feeling again, and it was I chucked it up

604
00:48:55.519 --> 00:48:59.760
to this is just the first time
I've been in that remote of an area

605
00:48:59.800 --> 00:49:01.440
and in a very long time.
So it was my nerves playing with me.

606
00:49:04.800 --> 00:49:08.239
Now this one isn't as isn't as
exciting as the previous one, but

607
00:49:08.719 --> 00:49:15.440
it's more it's scary. But I
remember my father in law went out to

608
00:49:15.480 --> 00:49:20.400
smoke his cigar that night and he
came in and he said he saw something

609
00:49:20.400 --> 00:49:23.199
staring at him from the woods.
And what a matter of fact, I

610
00:49:23.320 --> 00:49:27.239
was like, you gotta be fucking
kidding me, you know, please don't

611
00:49:27.559 --> 00:49:32.039
tell me that that's happening. And
so I just didn't want to I didn't

612
00:49:32.039 --> 00:49:36.519
want to know. I didn't want
to know. So I went to bed

613
00:49:36.559 --> 00:49:38.440
that night with my wife and my
kid. I was just you know,

614
00:49:38.519 --> 00:49:42.880
focused on, you know, having
a smooth night because it was our first

615
00:49:42.960 --> 00:49:47.960
night there at two am. So
the way this house was set up was

616
00:49:49.079 --> 00:49:54.159
it was like three stories. We
were the bottom bedroom on the on the

617
00:49:54.159 --> 00:49:59.239
bottom floor of the house, which
is pretty much even with the mountain,

618
00:50:00.079 --> 00:50:04.400
and there's this deck that comes out, but after the deck there's probably like

619
00:50:04.400 --> 00:50:08.280
a twenty foot drop that goes off, and then there's another level that had

620
00:50:08.360 --> 00:50:19.280
a hot tub and a swing that
was a Western style horse saddle, and

621
00:50:19.320 --> 00:50:24.440
then there was another story on top
of that. At two am, I

622
00:50:24.559 --> 00:50:32.280
heard the most terrifying roar ever that
it woke me out of a dead sleep,

623
00:50:32.840 --> 00:50:37.239
and followed by that it felt like
somebody pulled the side of the house

624
00:50:37.320 --> 00:50:45.320
off. Shortly after that, it
sounded like something was thrown through the woods.

625
00:50:46.239 --> 00:50:53.840
So my father and lay being he's
next marine, so he's something is

626
00:50:54.360 --> 00:51:00.679
going on. He's going to go
investigate it. Something ripped the swing and

627
00:51:00.719 --> 00:51:07.039
these were still change that were bolted
into the beams of the house. Something

628
00:51:07.119 --> 00:51:12.880
ripped the horse saddle off the house
and threw it about eighty yards into the

629
00:51:12.880 --> 00:51:20.239
woods. And I knew the sound
once it yelled, or whatever the fuck

630
00:51:20.280 --> 00:51:23.519
it did. I knew the sound
and I knew what it was. And

631
00:51:23.760 --> 00:51:27.760
I probably sat there in bed for
about ten minutes, just unable to move

632
00:51:28.199 --> 00:51:30.920
because I knew what was happening.
And then I heard a whole bunch of

633
00:51:30.960 --> 00:51:36.159
promotion upstairs, and my stepdad was
screaming, and my stepdad, my father

634
00:51:36.280 --> 00:51:43.760
in while was screaming, and I
knew what was going on, and I

635
00:51:43.760 --> 00:51:47.760
felt bad because I just went into
that pen estate. But my wife was

636
00:51:47.800 --> 00:51:51.119
trying to figure out what the fuck
was happening, and I couldn't even answer

637
00:51:51.119 --> 00:51:53.639
her. And my kid was crying
because it woke him up. And I'm

638
00:51:53.639 --> 00:52:00.320
not kidding good sound like s because
decided the house was pulled off, and

639
00:52:00.400 --> 00:52:02.079
I don't know what set it off. I don't know what set it off.

640
00:52:02.400 --> 00:52:07.599
I guess we just pissed it off
somehow. But you know, this

641
00:52:07.719 --> 00:52:14.280
was near B and B. We
had to let them know what happened because

642
00:52:14.280 --> 00:52:15.119
they were going to come back the
next team and be like, put the

643
00:52:15.880 --> 00:52:22.039
what did you guys? Do you
know? So my father in law called

644
00:52:22.119 --> 00:52:25.400
him to tell him something happened.
Something came and ripped the horse thing off.

645
00:52:28.239 --> 00:52:31.400
And this guy was way too cool
about it, way too cool about

646
00:52:31.440 --> 00:52:37.960
it. Didn't blame us for it, didn't say oh, well, you're

647
00:52:37.960 --> 00:52:40.000
gonna have to pay for that.
He just said I'm sorry that happened.

648
00:52:40.000 --> 00:52:46.199
And that was the end of the
conversation. That was it. That was

649
00:52:46.239 --> 00:52:52.159
it. Thankfully, nothing else happened
the rest of the trip, But I

650
00:52:52.199 --> 00:52:55.719
don't know why it picked our cabin
that night. I don't know what set

651
00:52:55.760 --> 00:52:59.480
it off, but something pissed it
off so bad that it whipped that thing

652
00:52:59.480 --> 00:53:04.000
out like it was a toy.
And they found it. I mean they

653
00:53:04.039 --> 00:53:08.159
found the chains and it like wrapped
up all around the saddle and it was

654
00:53:08.159 --> 00:53:14.559
probably about eighty artist too. It
wasn't light, It was not like anything

655
00:53:14.599 --> 00:53:21.519
that could throw that thing that far. Ship. Yeah, that's it's it's

656
00:53:21.599 --> 00:53:24.360
terrifying. It really is. Just
just the raw strength that these things have

657
00:53:24.440 --> 00:53:27.760
scares the shit out of me.
And I think that's what what scares me

658
00:53:28.119 --> 00:53:30.360
the most is that if you ever
come up against one that's pissed off like

659
00:53:30.400 --> 00:53:37.519
that, what are you gonna do? I don't give a shit what you

660
00:53:37.519 --> 00:53:40.440
have on and you ain't gonna be
quick enough to do whatever you need to

661
00:53:40.480 --> 00:53:44.840
do. If it's close enough to
you, you're done. That's game over

662
00:53:45.000 --> 00:53:51.000
right there. And I think that's
what scares me the most, knowing that

663
00:53:51.119 --> 00:54:01.639
something could have you that powerless.
And yeah, was that around like the

664
00:54:02.280 --> 00:54:14.119
Seaverville Pigeon Forage area, Yeah,
Cevervilleville. Really I knew it, dude,

665
00:54:15.320 --> 00:54:25.679
yep, because because I've had another
report similar setup Airbnb log cabin type

666
00:54:25.679 --> 00:54:31.280
deal. I just I just had
a feeling. Dude. Wow, that

667
00:54:31.400 --> 00:54:36.960
is the crazy thing is that he's
like, he's pretty much like, oh

668
00:54:37.119 --> 00:54:40.639
happened again. Yeah, that was
basically it. That was basically it.

669
00:54:40.760 --> 00:54:44.960
That's that's the gist that I got
from, you know, my father,

670
00:54:45.000 --> 00:54:46.480
and I'll called him expecting to be
yelled at and he was gonna have to

671
00:54:46.559 --> 00:54:50.719
argue with him that he didn't do
it. And this guy was just like

672
00:54:50.760 --> 00:54:59.679
a most ship. I'll tell you
what. That area of Tennessee. Uh,

673
00:55:00.360 --> 00:55:05.519
there's some wild stuff that goes on
in that area and more than more

674
00:55:05.559 --> 00:55:14.400
than bigfoot too. They call them
the ridgewalkers mm hmm. And I mean

675
00:55:14.400 --> 00:55:16.440
that that's pretty much what they're doing. I mean, there's no flat land

676
00:55:16.480 --> 00:55:22.519
over there. It's a disaster.
I mean, living up there, you

677
00:55:22.639 --> 00:55:24.719
know, it's I don't know how
people do it. I mean it's beautiful,

678
00:55:24.719 --> 00:55:32.920
don't get me wrong, but I
prefer flat land. Yeah, it

679
00:55:32.960 --> 00:55:40.559
should come out to Iowa. It's
pretty flat out here. Oh that's wild.

680
00:55:43.280 --> 00:55:47.320
TJ. Man, Dude, you
have gone through some wild, wild

681
00:55:47.440 --> 00:55:52.760
stuff and like you know, I'm
not gonna lie to you. Like being

682
00:55:52.800 --> 00:55:57.559
in North Carolina there's a chance,
you know, there could be other stuff

683
00:55:57.559 --> 00:56:01.960
that happens too. But I mean
it sounds like you kind of you got

684
00:56:01.960 --> 00:56:05.679
to handle on it. You know, it's it's not gonna this isn't going

685
00:56:05.719 --> 00:56:10.800
to ruin your life, you know, no, No, I mean I've

686
00:56:12.000 --> 00:56:14.639
had been through quite a bit aside
from that, So it's you know,

687
00:56:15.800 --> 00:56:19.480
you can't look things through the funny
one to have, you know, life

688
00:56:19.519 --> 00:56:22.920
short as it is, it's more
just less. This is me off that

689
00:56:27.599 --> 00:56:30.960
they know what's out there just from
the reading that I've done over the years.

690
00:56:30.960 --> 00:56:35.159
They fucking know these things are out
there, and they're not telling anybody,

691
00:56:35.599 --> 00:56:39.519
the government, you know, whoever
it is that's in charge of these

692
00:56:39.519 --> 00:56:46.320
decisions, right, But I mean, I don't buy the whole wall.

693
00:56:46.400 --> 00:56:51.079
If we tell them, then then
people are going to stop going to parks,

694
00:56:51.639 --> 00:56:53.960
Like really, yeah, this is
America. You really think people are

695
00:56:54.119 --> 00:56:57.639
just going to stop because they know
there's something crazy in the woods. They

696
00:56:57.679 --> 00:57:00.159
go to Yellowstone knowing that a grizzly
bear could walk by and eat their face

697
00:57:00.199 --> 00:57:05.440
off. As if that's not stopping
anybody. I doubt something like that is

698
00:57:05.480 --> 00:57:08.840
going to prevent anybody from going out
and enjoying nature, you know, although

699
00:57:08.840 --> 00:57:19.039
it sometimes does. But uh,
that's for the unlucky schmucks like me that

700
00:57:19.159 --> 00:57:23.159
have to have a face to face
account with them. Man, that's wild.

701
00:57:24.320 --> 00:57:30.199
Yeah, And I don't know,
you know, I try and rationalize

702
00:57:30.199 --> 00:57:32.079
why it happened, but there there's
no rationale. There's just wrong place,

703
00:57:32.159 --> 00:57:36.400
wrong time. That's really what it
comes down to, at least I think,

704
00:57:37.400 --> 00:57:40.519
you know, I've read a lot
of opinions that they choose to reveal

705
00:57:40.559 --> 00:57:45.360
themselves too. I don't know if
that's true. You know, I am

706
00:57:45.400 --> 00:57:49.119
a nature person. I don't hunt
or anything like that, not that I'm

707
00:57:49.159 --> 00:57:52.440
against it. You know, if
you're hunting for food and stuff like that,

708
00:57:52.519 --> 00:57:57.360
then you're doing the right thing,
right, But that's not me.

709
00:57:57.400 --> 00:57:59.360
I've never been able to do it. I just don't have the heart for

710
00:57:59.440 --> 00:58:05.920
it, you know. So I
don't know. Maybe it's that is true.

711
00:58:05.960 --> 00:58:13.480
Maybe they since the calm demeanor in
people that who is who isn't safe.

712
00:58:12.960 --> 00:58:20.199
I believe I believe you probably are
onto something there. That's something I've

713
00:58:20.239 --> 00:58:24.719
been thinking through and I, yeah, that's that's a whole different discussion for

714
00:58:24.800 --> 00:58:31.440
sure, But I think you might
be onto something there. TJ. I

715
00:58:31.519 --> 00:58:37.079
want to say thank you for discussing, for talking about this with me.

716
00:58:37.639 --> 00:58:44.159
You know, I've tried for years
two growing up in Massachusetts. Like I

717
00:58:44.199 --> 00:58:52.480
get it because one New England people
New Englanders don't don't talk to you if

718
00:58:52.519 --> 00:58:57.440
they don't know yet, and especially
about weird stuff. I get that because

719
00:58:57.519 --> 00:59:01.719
that's where I grew up in western
Massachusetts. So but I've been trying for

720
00:59:01.840 --> 00:59:07.639
years to talk to someone and you're
one of the only people that have reached

721
00:59:07.639 --> 00:59:12.599
out. So thank you for being
so open to share what you shared in

722
00:59:12.599 --> 00:59:19.000
that area problem. And it has
been it's been fun talking to you about

723
00:59:19.199 --> 00:59:22.360
It's been on, it's been on
lightening talking to you. I should say

724
00:59:22.360 --> 00:59:30.639
that instead, thank you for sharing
that whole area Tennessee is is weird as

725
00:59:30.639 --> 00:59:35.480
well. I think there's more to
come out of that from other listeners,

726
00:59:35.559 --> 00:59:40.840
but we did talk earlier that you're
up for. Uh, there's a new

727
00:59:40.880 --> 00:59:49.920
thing that I'm trying for the Patreon
and the YouTube channel members trying to come

728
00:59:50.000 --> 00:59:52.239
up with a name for. I
think maybe Strange Days. But pretty much

729
00:59:52.639 --> 00:59:59.679
we have a conversation about weird stuff
that you may have experienced that's not Bigfoot

730
00:59:59.719 --> 01:00:02.119
related. And I've done it a
few times. It's led to some really

731
01:00:02.239 --> 01:00:07.199
interesting conversations. So if you want
to check that out, you can become

732
01:00:07.559 --> 01:00:12.840
a Patreon. The links will be
at the description. But yeah, I

733
01:00:12.840 --> 01:00:15.440
think we're going to have a chat. I got a few questions to ask

734
01:00:15.480 --> 01:00:19.000
you about that, But I just
want to say thank you so much for

735
01:00:19.039 --> 01:00:22.719
coming on tj oh no problem,
man, anytime. I appreciate you having

736
01:00:22.760 --> 01:00:24.679
me. Just wanted to take a
few minutes to say thank you to you

737
01:00:25.199 --> 01:00:30.360
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738
01:00:30.440 --> 01:00:36.119
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741
01:00:45.079 --> 01:00:49.079
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742
01:00:49.760 --> 01:00:52.639
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743
01:00:52.679 --> 01:00:58.440
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746
01:01:07.800 --> 01:01:12.639
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747
01:01:12.719 --> 01:01:15.599
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748
01:01:15.599 --> 01:01:21.519
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749
01:01:21.559 --> 01:01:25.000
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01:01:25.079 --> 01:01:30.280
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757
01:02:00.079 --> 01:02:02.760
Okay, here's the deal. So
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758
01:02:02.840 --> 01:02:08.599
it is. There's no stopping us. We are going to full time podcast

759
01:02:09.639 --> 01:02:14.000
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760
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761
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to reach our goal of going full
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762
01:02:28.920 --> 01:02:32.519
people that have been having bigfoot activity, interview them face to face. Check

763
01:02:32.559 --> 01:02:37.079
it out for myself, all that
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764
01:02:38.599 --> 01:02:44.880
Guys, this is the time.
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766
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770
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world to me as well. Thank
you all for listening, and we'll see

771
01:03:17.559 --> 01:04:08.599
you next time. Her and I
can get out here, we can tell

772
01:04:08.599 --> 01:04:13.000
our stories. Maybe there's somebody else
out there listening it's too afraid to tell

773
01:04:13.039 --> 01:04:15.960
their story. Maybe this will give
them the courage to come out. And

774
01:04:16.079 --> 01:04:19.920
I feel so bad about it.
Who cares what anybody's thinks. I know

775
01:04:19.960 --> 01:04:24.480
what I saw, I know what's
out there. That's all I care.

776
01:04:40.679 --> 01:04:45.760
Please let people know, Please let
them know if you ever see one of

777
01:04:45.760 --> 01:04:49.400
these things you need to tell,
because if you don't, then shame on

778
01:04:49.519 --> 01:05:25.440
you, you know, shame on
you. No