May 11, 2025

Eyewitness to Bigfoot: A Terrifying Encounter in Washington’s Deep Woods

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Season 1

What happens when a 12-year-old boy’s childhood curiosity leads him into the woods of Lake Stevens, Washington—and into the gaze of an elusive Sasquatch? In this chilling episode, Stephen shares his unforgettable Bigfoot encounter that left him running for his life. With his dog on high alert and his friends oblivious to the danger nearby, Stephen found himself face-to-face with a mysterious creature behind a cedar stump. But this isn’t the only strange encounter Stephen had. He also recalls terrifying nights by Spring Lake and his belief in Sasquatch that grew with each strange encounter in Washington’s wilderness. From strange smells to rocks and root balls thrown with impossible strength, Stephen’s journey takes listeners deep into the heart of Bigfoot territory. Tune in for a heart-pounding tale of encounters with a creature that’s as elusive as it is terrifying.

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You're listening to Big for Society and I'm Jeremiah Byron.

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Tonight we dive into the chilling story of a twelve

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year old who had a face to face encounter with

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something not of this world, a sasquatch. This is a

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story of Stephen, a young boy out exploring the woods

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near Lake Stephen's, Washington, when something dark and massive stepped

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into his path. The creature's deep set eyes locked onto his,

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and Stephen knew in that moment he was not alone

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in the woods. This isn't a legend or a myth.

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It's a first hand encounter. So stay with us, all right,

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Big for Society. We've got the privilege of talking to

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Stephen today. Steven's an individual I got connected to that

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is here to share about some interesting encounters that happened

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to him during his junior high and high school years.

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So welcome to the show, Stephen. How's it going today?

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Good, min it's really good.

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Thank you, absolutely you know I believe well, I'm going

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to let you you set the stage here. I think

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I know where we're going, but we'll let you you

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set it. So feel free to take us back to

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when this first start happening to you and anything else

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that you need to in order to set the stage.

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Okay, well, my first encounter I was twelve years old. Okay,

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there's the neighborhood I lived in was about two plus

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miles west of Lake Stephens on the west side of

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Highway nine and maybe about a mile south of twentieth

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Street at fourteenth Place in ninety first Avenue. On the

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west side of the neighborhood. There's some power lines. Now,

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fifty years ago there were still some cedar trees, some

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large stumps, a lot of bushes, and with garter snakes

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and alligator lizards that we used to capture, just kind

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of give you how idea how wild it is. You're

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a little more you know, back then. I mean right now,

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the neighborhood is probably well, it sits my sighting sits

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in the middle of a neighborhood, so it would seem

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kind of strange. I've driven by there actually recently. My

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sister still lives out in this neighborhood. Anyway, we would

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go out. There was a pond out in this power

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lines also on the west side of the neighborhood, and

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where we built a raft. We'd stroll around catching frogs

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and newts and stuff. And now to the south side

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of the neighborhood there are woods and trees that stretched

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for nearly a mile all the way out to twentieth Street.

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Right now there's neighborhoods. But so in these woods, maybe

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about two hundred yards, there's this place we called the pothole,

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and there is an old drinking water well. There was

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the remains of an old house foundation nearby. And I

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want to want to say, I believe the pothole got

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its name from the teenagers that used to party there

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and smoked their stuff there, and that's how I believe

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it got its name. And so anyway, one day it

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was me, my black labrador, and two neighbor friends about

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my age, maybe a little younger. I was twelve years old,

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headed out. We headed out to the pothole. And as

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you enter the woods, you go down this goalie and

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back up. And this goalie was created by the underground

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springs that came from the woods that ran out into

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the west side of the into the power lines that

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created this pond we used to go into. Just to

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give you some details of it a little bit, But

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so about two hundred miles two hundred yards into these woods.

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We were standing around shit chatting away, my two friends

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and my dog, and suddenly my dog kind of alerted

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with like a wolf or like a wold. And then

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he was standing alert, just staring off into the into

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the trees to the south, into the woods, to the

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south side of the woods. And I for some reason

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turned over to my left and stand near this stump.

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Uh maybe it was a tall stump, tall seater stump

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from when the tree fell over, and and you know,

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it was probably about six foot tall stump, I want

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to say, five or six feet tall, give or take.

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And I seen what looked like an apeer, a gorilla

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hunch behind this stump. I was looking right into its eyes. Okay,

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I probably stared into its eyes maybe five or ten

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seconds maybe or at most, and started running out of

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the neighborhood as fast, out of the woods, as fast

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as I could into the neighborhood. Now, I didn't even

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look to see if my friends were following me or not.

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But as I got out of the woods, there they

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were just right behind me. They're right there too. And

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I asked them when I caught my breath, you know,

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out of breath, because I nearly ran head over here hills,

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over this goalie, down into this up and down into

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this out of the neighborhood because that goalie there, and

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I caught my breath and I said, did you see it?

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And they didn't answer me. They're just looking at me.

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And so that there, you know, that there told me

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they didn't see anything. They didn't see it. They were

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looking off to where my dog was alerted to. So

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I'm take I'm guessing that that time there was more

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than one thing in the woods because my dog was

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alerted to the south and I looked off to the

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west and it was seemed to crouched, crouched behind this

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cedar stump. And yeah, I looked into its eyes and

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I mean it had like deep brows. I would say

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it was black brown and maybe dark brown black Harry

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And yeah, so let me get back here, Stephen. Do

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you mind if we talk about that sighting for a

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few minutes. Yeah, So this is uh little is it

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Lake Stephen's Washington? Yes, it is, okay, gotcha. Wow, So

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you said what you saw was hunched over behind the

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five to six foot tall cedar stump. Is that right? Yeah? Yes,

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I believe I could see its right shoulder hanging out.

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So I've been to this woods one hundred eye was before.

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And so the stump when I turned the left, looked

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massive for a second, looked bigger than it normally was.

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So I know something was standing crouched down behind the stump,

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and I looked right into his eyes and yep, I'm

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sure this is not right. And I began running as

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fasts i could, as fast as I could, and yeah,

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it scared me, It really scared me.

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So yeah, do you know do you remember what color

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the eyes were?

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Uh? Uh it was it was kind of shadowy and

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it was there were just deep dark eyes just uh

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you know, some people say they saw red eyes. I

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didn't see red eyes, but it was uh they were

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large with big brow eyebrow, not eyebrow, but uh eyebridges

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maybe you want to call deep deep set eyes in

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good sockets.

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Do you remember if there were any whites around the eyes,

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like on that corner of the eyes as you were

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looking into them.

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Yeah, I don't know, but uh, I'm sure that I'm

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definitely sure they were eyes and they were staring deep,

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you know, right at me and with the angle with

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the where they were standing. I can see why they

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didn't see what I was seeing, because they were off

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to the right, more a little bit south of me

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from the pothole. And yeah, I still believe there was

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more than one of them out there, or at least

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something going on to the south of the woods, because

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that's where my dog was focused at. And then I

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just for some reason turned to the left and looked

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towards the stump, and yeah, there was standing hunch down

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behind this stump. I was definitely looking directly at me,

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and I just knew that wasn't right. So I started running.

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I mean, I booked it, and yeah, go ahead.

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Is this so this takes place in the late seventies,

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Is that right?

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Yeah, in nineteen seventy five.

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Okay, was gotcha? You had mentioned that sometimes people would

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go back to this area too, you know, do certain things.

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I'm guessing at the age of twelve, you guys weren't

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involved with any activities like that out there that would

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make you not really aware of what was going on.

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No, we didn't know. We're too young for that, right,

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We didn't get involved in It was just a spot worse.

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But the teenagers hang the older teenagers hung out but

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definitely none of them out there at this time. Nobody.

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We were definitely alone, gotcha.

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And I was actually going to ask, is there any

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chance at all that this could have been an older

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teenager knowing you guys are going out there and then

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trying to play a trick on you.

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No. I thought that over too many times, and I

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went over the Yeah, I thought about that too many times.

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I didn't think. I don't have any reason why they

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would do that or play a trick on us. I mean,

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at that time, we didn't even there was no sask

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watch talk that I remember, you know, And and I

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got I think, and they joked around with me and

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other neighbor kids and stuff about it. And uh, there

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was this old house across ninety first Avenue and somebody

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h when of the neighbor kids said that these people

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that lived across ninety first Avenue in this old house

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had some monkeys, had monkeys, he said, And so I

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was curious, and I was brought over there one day

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and to see maybe he had some large monkeys. Probably

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you know, I was little naive and global maybe they

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got to grow out there or something that, you know,

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But I went in. I went over there and I

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was invited in, and uh, all they had was some

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spider monkeys, so little, they had these two little spider monkeys,

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so no big grill is hangary. They had an aviary

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like for birds, oh sanctuary out beside their house with cockatoos,

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pigeons and stuff. So but yeah, I just had to

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go over there to make sure they didn't have any gorillas.

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Oh absolutely. But yeah, and that is very interesting though,

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because so there was some sort of monkey in the proximity.

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But what you saw, I mean it sounds like, well

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I'll ask you. You know you were able to look

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into its eyes, but did you notice any other details

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of it before you ran out of the woods.

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Well, just the deep set eyes and and it's harry shoulder,

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hairy upper arm, Harry shoulder, I guess, but I could

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definitely tell it was just there's a big and in

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stature is something definitely pretty big, uh, crouched behind there,

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and that's about it. It was. Yeah, I definitely seen

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and looked into his eyes and seen it that it

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was had kind of a look of I don't know,

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like kind of a look of curiosity. Did give me

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a I didn't get the feeling it was an angry

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look or anything. But yeah, that's about it. Uh, it

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wasn't it shouldn't have been there, That's all I gotta say.

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If my dog and I think about how my dog

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reacted in the woods there is normally my dog would

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chase the deer or rabbits or anything else. But it

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it didn't. It just it it stood, just stood its ground,

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and it was just like it's like my dog was

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freaked out over it too, possibly, you know, But again

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he was looking the other way as far as I know.

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But my dog and my friends were looking the other

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way at something in the woods that evidently they didn't.

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I don't think they saw anything, and they didn't say

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they say it, say anything, but they I think they

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believed that I saw something. So and later on my

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dog days later, I'm weeks later, my dog was running

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off a lot, straying off and she never did that's females,

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female dog. She never did that before. And the neighbors

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about three houses down from me. Uh so let me know.

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They that they had some rabbits missing and that I

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may have my dog may have broken into their cage,

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they thought. And I was like I was, and I

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remember I was I was, I was mad. I was

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not happy about that. I didn't I didn't think my

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dog would break into a rabbit cage and eat them.

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I knew my dog well enough to not do that.

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And then sometime later they were they my dog wound

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up getting killed on n New First Avenue, Uh, wandering

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at she was wandering around, Uh like she you know,

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she never did this before. But she need to get

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hit by a truck. But uh, the neighbors invited me

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before that happened. The neighbors invited me down to their

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house to have some rabbit dinner. They butchered rabbits and

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and and ate them. Uh, that was there one of

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their food sources. So they invited me down there for

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rabbit dinner one time and just to kind of let

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me know that they didn't believe. They were sorry about

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my dog, and they didn't believe that my dog was

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the one that did it because they had reinforced their

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cages and put paddleocks on their cages, and their rabbits

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still wound up get disappearing nearly all of them. He

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stopped after this incident. He stopped butchering and keeping rabbits. Somehow,

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something or someone had broken into the cages after you

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put paddle locks and reinforced reinforced lining on the cages,

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heavier wire and all that, and took all his rabbits.

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So they were letting me know that they didn't think

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my dog was the one that broke into the cage

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because they were now disappearing.

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How many approximate rabbits do you think they were keeping

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at any time? Was were talking a lot of them?

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Or yeah, quite a few of them. I mean a dozens.

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I mean they they had rabbit dinner a lot. The

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mother fried them up and ate them. They had quite

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a few cages back there, and yeah, they they started disappearing.

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They couldn't figure out how their locks got broken off,

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snapped off, broken off, of course there's a steel uh

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steel locks on wooden frame. But they were broken off,

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and all the rabbits disappeared, nearly all of them. And

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they just assumed somebody did it to steal their rabbits.

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But I had reasonably that maybe it was the creature

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that I saw that did this. Uh. I can't say

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a d but ruined their rabbit, uh ruined their rabbit dinner, sir.

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So they quick they stopped raising rabbits sometime after that.

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You know, I don't think, you know, anybody believed about sasquatch.

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Like I said, there was, It wasn't much uh talk

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about it back back then. Maybe the Patterson Gimblin film.

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That was probably about the only thing I knew about

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at that time, you know, And we don't have stories

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like that like we do now about uh sightings of

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Bigfoot and Sasquatch. There there was maybe a story or

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two back then, oh of sasquatch Bigfoot because it's still

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pretty wild back then. But yeah, so what else do

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I want to say?

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Sorry, just real quick, Holf Holf close to the pothole area.

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Uh is this land, this property with all the rabbits

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in it?

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Mm hmmm, Well, it's in my neighborhood, three houses down

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for me, probably uh a quarter mile maybe at most,

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uh so from this from the from the south side

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of the neighborhoods about two or three hundred yards into

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the woods. So probably from their house, uh maybe another

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one hundred yards not that far. Yeah, it's just up

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this just a little ways from uh from the poole

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So and it's in the Yeah, the woods, they're pretty thick.

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Pretty heavy back then still and there's trees to the

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to the east side of the neighborhood. The south side,

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the north side was up. While there's some neighihborhoods in

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North Souther's a school, you know, my school I went to.

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But as far as the east side, on the south side,

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remember very heavily wooded. And to the west side is

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all power minds and a pond even you know, it was.

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It's pretty wild, you know, pretty pretty heavily wooded. And

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I think I remember some stories of possible sightings back then,

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but I didn't. I don't know. I didn't pay too

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much attention anyway. That was my sighting. That's all I saw,

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was a possible and I have two other counter encounters

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here that I think you might find interesting. That's fascinating

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to me. So this is in nineteen seventy six, seventy

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seven h It was summertime at Spring Lake, and Spring

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Lake lies east of the Jordan Road, approximately three miles

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northwest of Grandite Falls, and I looked it up as

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a twenty sixth acre lake. It's one of the shallowest

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lakes in the county and it has no public access.

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There was only three or four cabins at the time

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back then, and two of them were my stepfather's, my

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stepdad and his brother and my stepdad owned an a

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frame cabin next to his brothers was that was just

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a square cabin. And so this is like three years later,

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guber take you know, and uh, yeah, yeah, there's a

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there's a vacant home across the lake. I never seen

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anybody there. Uh. And and this is much like a

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big pond as more of a as a lake as

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you know. It had a lot of frogs and beams,

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and it was full of fish though it had You

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could look over the rowboat he had there and you

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could see large fish in the water, but you could

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never catch him because it was I think the fish

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were too well fed from all the frogs mosquitoes out there,

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and so it was difficult to catch these fish. Uh.

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And so anyway, so they framed cabin. Man. It had

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a large glass into facing the lake and no running

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water and uh had two small bedrooms upstairs. They had

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a the toilet was an out an outhouse, and of

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course there's an electricity. It was a beautiful belt h

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with the awning in the back, with the cabin with

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a barbecue pit with the chimney and picnic tables. So

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we were out there one weekend having a barbecue dinner.

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It was my step dad, my mother, my sister and

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her friend, and it was uh me, my brother and

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my friend and his friend, uh, my brother's friend and mine.

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So after dinner it was, uh, it was late. We

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were eating outside under the awning, big barbecue dinner, and

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and those boys decided to sleep outside away from the cabin.

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We wanted to be under the stars. And we didn't

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feel like sleeping upstairs with my sister and her friend

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because there's only a two bedroom cabin and it wasn't

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I mean, we could sleep downstairs, but it was really

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uncomfortable down there. And but we decided we wanted to

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camp out a little more and get a little excitement

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and camp outside the cabin. And you know, it was

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probably maybe fifty yards away from the cabin. So and

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and George, my stepdaddy, had a dog. He had a dog,

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a big German Shepherd dog next German Shepherd mix. And

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so after dinner we were we were those boys were

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sleeping just out there in our sleeping bags, I think

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a tarp into sleeping bag sleeping in the stars. It

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was really dark. I mean, you can't even see You

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couldn't see your hands in front of your face. Uh,

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you know these little flashlights you were shining around. But

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suddenly and the frogs and crickets stopped. It got really

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it got quiet, and we're we're no longer talking, We're

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just Uh. I was tucked down in my sleeping bag

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with only maybe the top of my head sticking out,

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and there's this terrible smell in the air. Mhmm, yeah,

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there's a stench in the air. And and I could

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I heard, I felt footsteps. I felt heavy footsteps getting

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closer to my to us. And my brother and friend

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weren't saying anything. I think there were I think they're

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I think they maybe felt or smelled something too. And

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and I remember laying there and I kind of pushed

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my elbow over to see if my my friend, my

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friend and brother were still there. And I felt my

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my brother he was trembling, so I know he was

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scared and something was standing about. I felt something was

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standing by us, but I couldn't. I was too scared

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to stick my head out of a sleeping bag to look.

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I mean, I felt paralyzed some fear for sure, and

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and some time passed away. The frogs and crickets came by.

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And I want to say, before this happened, also my

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cab or the dog was sleeping next to us, was

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laying beside us. When the crickets and frogs stopped, the

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dog got up and walked away, like i'mike, where's the

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dog going? Like something was around it walked away from

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us just suddenly. And that's when the smell came on,

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and I was sure something was standing there beside me,

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beside us. But sometime I went by and the crickets

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and frogs all came back, and we all got up

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at once and just ran to the cab and we

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didn't even grab our sleeping bags or anything. We just

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just hooked it to back to the cabin. Yahm and

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we ran into the cabin. Uh my stepdad came downstairs

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and uh my mom was like, where's your I remember

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my mom saying where's your where's your bedding? And you

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know it's cold, we're gonna so we had to sleep

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upstairs with my with my with the girls, I mean

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my stepdad. So you can just lay your sleep and

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beg go get your sleeping bags laying down here. And

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none of us wanted to go out there and get

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our sleeping bags. We were too scared. Just we were

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like and and I remember thinking, my stepdad he mentioned

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from time or two the big man. I mean, we'd

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be on our way out to the cabin sometimes and

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I had asked, who's going to be out in the

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cabin this weekend, and he said, oh, just it's just

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going to be me, the the dog, and the big

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man of the forest and us. And I always thought

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he meant the big man of the forest was his

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brother or his brother's friends or something. And I mean

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my step he looked like my stepdad looked. Stepfather looked

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like a grizzly Adam type guy. He hung out. I mean,

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he built his cabin out in the woods, and he

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was an ext iron worker and all that. But he

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mentioned he went out to get our sleeping bags for

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us because we're too scared. He had to get the

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lantern and go out there and get him. And and

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we ended up sleeping upstairs because we were too freaked

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out to sleep down stairs. And and he and I

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remember he's going back up the stairs saying, yeah, just

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the big man of the forest. He wanted to and

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I remember my mom's like he just scared of him,

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you know. Yeah, so he mentioned that the big man thefore.

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I always thought it was his brother, but when I

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saw his brother come out there, he wasn't big at all,

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So yeah, it's not him. So I really think that

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my stepdad knew there was a sasquatch out there, and

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just by the way he talked about him. He wouldn't

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say I never thought to ask him in detail about

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what he saw or what he knew or out there,

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but yeah, he mentioned the big man of the forest

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out there. So anyway, we went to sleep with the

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girls were too scared, and you know, something is out there, something.

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This lake is very secluded and even today I think

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there's not even I don't know it's it's no public

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assets access. You can't get out to this lake. But

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I saw a picture online and it still looks They

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show the house, the empty house across the lake, and

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in a doc that's about all these show, it's like, wow,

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maybe there's it's not really it's not all built up

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like that anymore.

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Yeah, So anyway, it looks like because it's hard to

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find I'm not seeing it on a map, but I

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am finding a website that talks about it, and it

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seems like you can't really do anything there unless you're

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a lake residence. So it's not a thing where, you know,

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you want to try to track it down and then

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go there, because it's kind of it's not a public

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access type deal. But it does look beautiful. I see

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the photo with the house across the water. I think

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you're talking about maybe, but yeah, did you ever have

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any conversations with him when you were an adult about like, Hey,

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what what did you mean about, you know, the big Man?

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No? I wish I would have, but I did. But

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I know he mentioned at least a couple other times

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about it. I don't think he wanted to talk too

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much about it because he knew it was scarce and

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he wanted he wanted us to go out to the lake.

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He was a lonely man, you know, and my mom

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pretty much he wasn't really our dad. He was just

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someone my mom dated, and we'd go out to the

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lake sometimes and we'd uh, some of us complain, Oh

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there's no toilet, you know, and the toilet skinks. It's

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an our house and it didn't have any running water,

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and it's you're really kind of rough and impacting. So

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but I don't I think the last thing he wanted

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to do was scare us, you know. And but you

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know again, I I remember the dog, the way it

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acted when it walked away, when it got up and

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walked away from it, as if it was not comfortable

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with the big man. Uh. Yeah, something was there and

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and it just uh it uh I was the fear

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that came over. Is was just a really scary and

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I felt petrified in my sleeping bag. I couldn't look out.

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I kind of wish I could have just looked out,

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but I probably would have went into shock if I

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actually saw what I think was standing out there, standing

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beside us, because I could hear the footfall of this thing,

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and yeah, there's something there. I wish I would have.

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And like I said, it was so dark you couldn't

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see your hand in front of your face, and neither

463
00:36:27.079 --> 00:36:31.679
my friend or my brother would even would you. I

464
00:36:31.679 --> 00:36:34.000
don't think they didn't look either. I mean, you couldn't

465
00:36:34.039 --> 00:36:37.519
see anything unless you shine your flashlight. But something was

466
00:36:37.559 --> 00:36:40.719
there and it stumped and I remember talking to my

467
00:36:40.800 --> 00:36:43.920
brother about it. And my friend he was, Yeah, something

468
00:36:44.119 --> 00:36:52.360
stinks out there really bad. Yeah. I wish I would

469
00:36:52.360 --> 00:36:55.360
have talked to my stepdad about it a little more too,

470
00:36:56.239 --> 00:37:01.679
or talked to ask them about it, but I didn't

471
00:37:01.760 --> 00:37:14.000
and he's gone now. So anyway, I have another story too.

472
00:37:15.000 --> 00:37:19.119
These are these are stories. I truly believe something is

473
00:37:19.280 --> 00:37:23.199
in my first encounter, I definitely Uh, like I said,

474
00:37:23.280 --> 00:37:27.679
my first encounter, I've seen the thing. They exist and

475
00:37:28.039 --> 00:37:33.880
to this day I believe that there was something out there.

476
00:37:37.679 --> 00:37:40.960
And I have a third story, Okay, and this I went.

477
00:37:41.039 --> 00:37:45.440
I went hiking with my friends in about seventy eight

478
00:37:45.519 --> 00:37:49.800
or seventy nine, only a couple of years later. Uh.

479
00:37:49.840 --> 00:37:54.800
This is Goat Lake, about thirty miles from Granted follows

480
00:37:54.880 --> 00:38:03.679
up in the North Cascades Mountainoup Highway. My friend, he's

481
00:38:03.719 --> 00:38:09.079
a little older than me, and he had his brother

482
00:38:09.159 --> 00:38:12.480
with him, so it was me, my friend and his

483
00:38:12.519 --> 00:38:17.679
brother going, uh, I'm going to go hiking, and went

484
00:38:17.760 --> 00:38:21.760
hiking up into the Cascades. So we brought uh he

485
00:38:21.840 --> 00:38:24.280
brought a machete because he was told there was a

486
00:38:25.800 --> 00:38:29.159
it was gonna probably be overgrown trail and it was.

487
00:38:29.400 --> 00:38:34.440
I mean, we took turns shopping our way in the

488
00:38:34.519 --> 00:38:43.559
Goat Lake and there was stinging nettles, devil club, uh

489
00:38:43.840 --> 00:38:47.159
everything to get back there. We worked to get to

490
00:38:47.239 --> 00:38:51.960
this lake. And if you look nowadays at this lake,

491
00:38:52.000 --> 00:38:56.199
it's it shows that it's well groomed and there's even

492
00:38:56.239 --> 00:39:00.519
a bathroom. Even a bathroom at the trailhead. I thought

493
00:39:00.719 --> 00:39:07.119
was kind of funny. Hm, yeah, because back then there

494
00:39:07.199 --> 00:39:11.039
was only like the trail head and a box. I

495
00:39:11.039 --> 00:39:13.119
think you put your name. We put our name in

496
00:39:14.519 --> 00:39:24.440
ah for the time we started our hike, and uh yeah,

497
00:39:24.480 --> 00:39:27.239
we put our names there and we're head. As far

498
00:39:27.280 --> 00:39:30.199
as we can tell, nobody else had been there, and

499
00:39:30.400 --> 00:39:33.039
the trail was thick. We thought we were off trail

500
00:39:33.079 --> 00:39:40.079
when we're chopping our way to the lake. Took us

501
00:39:40.119 --> 00:39:42.599
most of the day to get get to Goat Lake.

502
00:39:42.800 --> 00:39:46.559
And this is like a glacier lake. It's it's very

503
00:39:47.760 --> 00:39:55.159
mh and deep into mountain canyon. Uh. So we chopped

504
00:39:56.039 --> 00:39:59.440
and we were having a hard time getting to the lake.

505
00:39:59.559 --> 00:40:04.559
Somewhere where they're somewhere to stand clear find a clearing

506
00:40:04.599 --> 00:40:10.639
around the lake, and and we came across across the clearing.

507
00:40:11.719 --> 00:40:14.480
It's like we came out of the thick woods and

508
00:40:14.480 --> 00:40:17.960
then there was a clearing and it was like a bedding.

509
00:40:18.159 --> 00:40:23.599
There was there was grass, some like some branches, and

510
00:40:23.679 --> 00:40:30.159
it looked like soft sooty soil, looked like something pulled off, uh,

511
00:40:30.679 --> 00:40:33.639
soft sand pulled from the beach. But we're wondering how

512
00:40:33.639 --> 00:40:38.599
they how someone got the sand there. So it was

513
00:40:38.639 --> 00:40:41.079
a nice bedding. It wasn't too big, but we could

514
00:40:41.079 --> 00:40:44.840
all fit there. And outside of this bedding there was

515
00:40:45.880 --> 00:40:49.280
we couldn't it was late, we couldn't really go anywhere else.

516
00:40:49.360 --> 00:40:51.320
It was like we'd have to chop our way into

517
00:40:51.360 --> 00:40:54.559
the lake chopper trail to the lake, and it looked

518
00:40:54.559 --> 00:40:57.559
like it was just kind of downhill. It was all

519
00:40:57.599 --> 00:41:04.679
downhill around this lake. And this is so that clearing

520
00:41:04.800 --> 00:41:07.000
was the best spot we had. I mean, we're pretty

521
00:41:07.039 --> 00:41:10.280
much isolated. Is getting late. We needed to settle down

522
00:41:10.320 --> 00:41:13.960
and get something neat and get settled in. So we

523
00:41:14.039 --> 00:41:18.159
decided to yeah, this is perfect, nice cleared off spot,

524
00:41:21.840 --> 00:41:29.679
and so we laid out. We laid out our bedding.

525
00:41:30.920 --> 00:41:32.880
I think we laid a tarp down to keep as

526
00:41:32.960 --> 00:41:40.199
dry as moist, and laid our sleeping bags out, and

527
00:41:40.239 --> 00:41:42.800
we pulled out a little stove and we're cooking our

528
00:41:42.800 --> 00:41:54.679
food and it's getting late and and suddenly rock and

529
00:41:54.760 --> 00:41:59.320
our Suddenly, rocks started splashing nearby us, nearby the lake.

530
00:42:00.679 --> 00:42:06.280
They kept coming from up above us or around the bend,

531
00:42:07.760 --> 00:42:10.760
and it was kind of uphill from where this cleared

532
00:42:10.800 --> 00:42:19.480
off spot was pretty steep, and rocks kept flying and landing,

533
00:42:20.239 --> 00:42:28.280
several rocks, and I think we were yelling. My friend

534
00:42:28.400 --> 00:42:30.920
was yelling, hey, we'll be out here by you know,

535
00:42:31.000 --> 00:42:35.719
we'll be out here by morning. Just there's nowhere else

536
00:42:35.760 --> 00:42:38.800
to go. You know, we're kind of yelling. We figured

537
00:42:38.840 --> 00:42:50.599
we took somebody's spot, and so we we were you know,

538
00:42:50.679 --> 00:42:55.199
we were talking a lot, you know, just yelling from

539
00:42:55.280 --> 00:43:01.360
time to time to stop throwing the rocks. Suddenly, I here,

540
00:43:00.960 --> 00:43:05.920
it's it's getting quiet, now start. I hear this sound

541
00:43:06.000 --> 00:43:10.639
of the dirt of dirt coming out of the ground, ripping.

542
00:43:11.000 --> 00:43:14.719
It sounded like it was ripping from the ground. And

543
00:43:17.320 --> 00:43:20.800
these rocks and dirt rained down on the trees by us,

544
00:43:21.360 --> 00:43:25.000
and a big, huge splash in the lake. It was

545
00:43:25.079 --> 00:43:34.039
a big splash, and there's a big root ball, and

546
00:43:34.039 --> 00:43:38.000
and we were all quiet. We all got really quiet.

547
00:43:38.400 --> 00:43:43.679
Said wow, this something that ripped us out of the

548
00:43:43.679 --> 00:43:47.920
ground was strong and it threw it and it was

549
00:43:48.000 --> 00:43:51.440
our It was our root ball with huge roots on

550
00:43:51.480 --> 00:43:58.800
it and a big splash, and uh yeah, we got

551
00:43:58.880 --> 00:44:06.000
quiet were we were freaked out, and now it was

552
00:44:06.039 --> 00:44:10.440
getting really it was really dark, and we just climbed

553
00:44:10.480 --> 00:44:16.840
in our sleeping bag and and we didn't We didn't

554
00:44:16.880 --> 00:44:19.280
want to cook, we didn't want to mess around doing nothing.

555
00:44:19.320 --> 00:44:22.360
We just climbed in our sleeping bag and huddled in

556
00:44:22.559 --> 00:44:33.400
and we're We heard strange noises all night and yeah,

557
00:44:33.559 --> 00:44:37.360
the next morning, I think, so sometime during the middle

558
00:44:37.360 --> 00:44:40.960
of the night. This is a really bad thing that happened.

559
00:44:42.159 --> 00:44:49.159
My friend. He was my brother's, my friend's brother. He

560
00:44:49.280 --> 00:44:52.199
got up. He stood up, and I could see the

561
00:44:52.239 --> 00:44:58.199
silhouette of him standing up, and he's and he starts

562
00:44:58.239 --> 00:45:03.239
taking a pee, and I heard his brother goes go farther,

563
00:45:03.440 --> 00:45:07.920
You go farther, and he's he wouldn't. He just stood

564
00:45:07.920 --> 00:45:10.000
there and peede and his pee. He was peeing on

565
00:45:10.039 --> 00:45:13.360
the tart and I'm like, oh, no, I could hear

566
00:45:13.400 --> 00:45:18.360
it hitting the tart and suddenly I felt warm, the

567
00:45:18.400 --> 00:45:24.119
warmth of the pead river down underneath my sleeping bag.

568
00:45:25.039 --> 00:45:29.280
And he pee Pete a lot. I was. I was

569
00:45:29.320 --> 00:45:34.920
soaking wet with this pee in my and I'm and

570
00:45:35.000 --> 00:45:38.320
I'm wet with his pee now, and I'm just I'm mad,

571
00:45:38.400 --> 00:45:43.000
I'm angry, I'm scared, and I'm mad. And uh, he

572
00:45:43.039 --> 00:45:46.360
didn't want to go any farther. He was too scared

573
00:45:46.360 --> 00:45:49.679
to go any farther and pee because he just stood

574
00:45:49.760 --> 00:45:53.199
up and started peeing. It was ridiculous and and I

575
00:45:53.320 --> 00:45:55.760
was soaked with p and now I'm scared out of

576
00:45:55.800 --> 00:46:03.639
my mind. And yeah, the next morning soon this day,

577
00:46:03.880 --> 00:46:06.519
I mean, this is a long night. This is a

578
00:46:06.599 --> 00:46:12.719
really long night. It got dark there quick, and the

579
00:46:12.800 --> 00:46:15.360
daylight didn't come for a long time because we're in

580
00:46:15.360 --> 00:46:25.800
the canyon mountain canyons all around us. And when we

581
00:46:25.840 --> 00:46:32.719
got up, we didn't it was just barely daylight. And

582
00:46:32.760 --> 00:46:36.679
we got I think one of us he cooked some

583
00:46:37.920 --> 00:46:40.639
or he heated some water, and we had like coffee.

584
00:46:40.719 --> 00:46:43.239
That's it. We didn't want to sit around and cook anything.

585
00:46:43.679 --> 00:46:49.000
We wanted to just get out of there, and and

586
00:46:49.119 --> 00:46:51.800
we did. We hiked out of there early. We didn't

587
00:46:51.840 --> 00:46:56.360
want to. It was just a just a terrible trip.

588
00:46:57.320 --> 00:47:00.639
And we hiked our way in there, and uh, we

589
00:47:00.760 --> 00:47:04.079
have to cut our way into there and we've and

590
00:47:05.719 --> 00:47:09.840
we didn't do anything else next that that that incident

591
00:47:09.920 --> 00:47:16.280
that night, that night just scared us, Uh, scared us

592
00:47:16.400 --> 00:47:22.280
pretty bad. H. Yeah. It was a rootball, Jeremiah, was

593
00:47:22.559 --> 00:47:27.199
huge rootball that a man shouldn't have been able to

594
00:47:27.239 --> 00:47:32.840
rip from the ground and throw. And this is when

595
00:47:32.880 --> 00:47:39.960
I started believing there such thing as sasquatch bigfoot because

596
00:47:40.719 --> 00:47:43.360
of what I went through earlier. I don't know what

597
00:47:43.519 --> 00:47:50.599
my friends, uh, whether they really thought they they existed,

598
00:47:50.679 --> 00:47:54.599
but I'm already convinced. I know at this time that

599
00:47:54.679 --> 00:47:58.840
they exist because I've already heard more stories.

600
00:48:00.639 --> 00:48:08.719
And yeah, that is just and that's an incredible account.

601
00:48:09.199 --> 00:48:13.960
I have a few questions about that. So you you

602
00:48:14.400 --> 00:48:16.639
heard the root ball get ripped out of the ground

603
00:48:16.719 --> 00:48:19.159
and then you saw it after it fell in the

604
00:48:19.199 --> 00:48:22.400
water or it was thrown into the water. Yeah, how

605
00:48:22.960 --> 00:48:25.320
how big would you estimate that that root all was?

606
00:48:27.320 --> 00:48:37.559
M I would say probably a six or eight foot

607
00:48:38.400 --> 00:48:43.719
six or eight foot six or radiance tree perhaps that

608
00:48:43.880 --> 00:48:46.559
was ripped out of the ground. And I can say

609
00:48:46.599 --> 00:48:52.159
it rained down rocks and dirt from a long quite

610
00:48:52.159 --> 00:48:57.719
a distance and a huge splash, and I saw the

611
00:48:57.760 --> 00:49:03.519
dirt in the water and the lake, and I was

612
00:49:03.599 --> 00:49:07.079
just like, since I have I was frozen in fear.

613
00:49:07.280 --> 00:49:10.960
This is not a person here, this is something else.

614
00:49:12.039 --> 00:49:16.119
This is you know, I think I already decided in mind.

615
00:49:16.159 --> 00:49:21.400
I knew what it was, and I don't know. It's

616
00:49:21.400 --> 00:49:24.000
funny we didn't talk about it that night or nothing.

617
00:49:24.000 --> 00:49:27.159
We were just too scared to even We're like a

618
00:49:27.199 --> 00:49:30.880
few whispers, We're just like we kept saying, they kept going,

619
00:49:31.639 --> 00:49:36.000
you know, they're trying to hear if something's coming to us,

620
00:49:36.119 --> 00:49:39.280
or all night long, it's like that, and then we're

621
00:49:39.320 --> 00:49:46.360
basically just quiet and listening. I think we're We knew

622
00:49:46.360 --> 00:49:49.000
we were in a bad spot because we cut our

623
00:49:49.000 --> 00:49:52.679
way into this place and it was really difficult to

624
00:49:52.719 --> 00:49:56.039
get in there, and so it ain't like we can

625
00:49:56.119 --> 00:49:59.079
just get up and run to safety. We were locked

626
00:49:59.079 --> 00:50:02.960
into that place, and I was scared. I was really

627
00:50:04.159 --> 00:50:08.840
That was probably the worst out of all these kind

628
00:50:08.800 --> 00:50:11.639
of out all three of these cameras, that that was

629
00:50:11.719 --> 00:50:15.360
the scariest I ever been because I knew there was

630
00:50:15.400 --> 00:50:21.360
no safety nearby. We were screwed right there. And and

631
00:50:21.440 --> 00:50:25.320
the way, when I think about the way the clearing was,

632
00:50:25.440 --> 00:50:32.320
how did the clearing get there. How did who made that?

633
00:50:32.480 --> 00:50:36.280
You know, there wasn't a person. After I figured out

634
00:50:36.360 --> 00:50:42.000
after years later looking at people saying, well a few

635
00:50:42.000 --> 00:50:46.639
people singing the way a nest might look or something,

636
00:50:46.639 --> 00:50:50.679
It's like, wow, you know, this is just adds more

637
00:50:51.639 --> 00:50:55.559
to my story. And yeah, it was a clearing with

638
00:50:57.960 --> 00:51:01.000
and there was no trails into this clearing and it

639
00:51:01.119 --> 00:51:04.199
was just there. It's like we lucked out and had

640
00:51:04.199 --> 00:51:07.760
a place to sleep. But everything I think they took.

641
00:51:08.440 --> 00:51:12.360
I think we took something spot, not someone spot. That's

642
00:51:12.360 --> 00:51:13.159
all I can say.

643
00:51:13.840 --> 00:51:18.880
No, absolutely, I mean, dude, just the fact that you

644
00:51:18.960 --> 00:51:21.480
had to bushwhack your way in. There's no way there

645
00:51:21.519 --> 00:51:26.039
were other people there at that remote lake with you guys.

646
00:51:26.360 --> 00:51:30.719
Yeah, there's no way. No. Wow, there wasn't wild.

647
00:51:31.039 --> 00:51:34.159
That is that is wild in late seventies.

648
00:51:35.000 --> 00:51:40.800
Yeah, probably seventy seventy nine. Yeah, Now I looked at it.

649
00:51:41.480 --> 00:51:43.280
Did you look it up on the mountain?

650
00:51:43.320 --> 00:51:46.920
I did so. I usually will look stuff up on

651
00:51:47.000 --> 00:51:50.159
Google Maps, and then it's cool because you can see

652
00:51:50.239 --> 00:51:54.679
other people's photos from the location. It's a beautiful area.

653
00:51:55.079 --> 00:52:03.719
It is gogoes. Yeah, the waters so blue, deep blue. Yeah,

654
00:52:03.760 --> 00:52:07.960
it was. But at that time we couldn't get anywhere there.

655
00:52:08.079 --> 00:52:11.000
It was like this is we were at that time

656
00:52:11.039 --> 00:52:13.239
were when we were hiking, we thought this is really

657
00:52:13.320 --> 00:52:16.239
bogus man and we can see a beautiful lake, but

658
00:52:16.679 --> 00:52:20.159
we couldn't really see anywhere to go from other than

659
00:52:20.159 --> 00:52:23.679
that spot where we were at that clearing were cut

660
00:52:23.760 --> 00:52:29.280
into And yeah, I can and now it looks funny

661
00:52:29.360 --> 00:52:32.559
even see I think on that on Google them. Now

662
00:52:32.599 --> 00:52:36.039
I've seen some kids there. I thought, wow, there's even

663
00:52:36.239 --> 00:52:39.880
kids there that hiked into this place that was so

664
00:52:40.000 --> 00:52:44.920
difficult for us to get to. And they really made

665
00:52:44.920 --> 00:52:48.760
it into like a like a campground now or some

666
00:52:49.480 --> 00:52:53.880
really a campground. I mean, I'm sure it's quite a

667
00:52:53.960 --> 00:53:02.000
hike there to get to it. But yeah, and you

668
00:53:02.039 --> 00:53:06.679
can see all the clearing. How there's places to go

669
00:53:06.719 --> 00:53:12.559
around the lake, a few anyway, a few places clearings there.

670
00:53:13.079 --> 00:53:15.559
At that time, we didn't see none of that. It's like,

671
00:53:17.039 --> 00:53:23.199
I don't know how who made the trail back in

672
00:53:23.239 --> 00:53:28.280
the late seventies or or what, but there wasn't much

673
00:53:28.320 --> 00:53:30.719
there back then. It was like we're off a logging road,

674
00:53:30.760 --> 00:53:34.159
it felt like, and I mean, it's a mountain neup highway.

675
00:53:34.239 --> 00:53:38.280
But at the time, you know, Now if you go

676
00:53:38.360 --> 00:53:41.920
up the Mountain Highway, it looks like campgrounds and it's like, wow,

677
00:53:41.960 --> 00:53:44.599
it didn't looking that, it didn't look too much like

678
00:53:44.679 --> 00:53:48.800
this back in the seventies exactly.

679
00:53:48.880 --> 00:53:53.840
And the thing I want younger listeners to realize, because

680
00:53:53.880 --> 00:53:58.000
sometimes this doesn't come across, but I think late seventies,

681
00:53:59.000 --> 00:54:05.079
there's no cell phones, there's no election, there's no survival

682
00:54:05.159 --> 00:54:09.320
beacons to use, there is nothing to save you when

683
00:54:09.320 --> 00:54:13.199
you're in these remote locations like this, having to hack

684
00:54:13.239 --> 00:54:17.320
your way in. Something goes down. These guys are in

685
00:54:17.480 --> 00:54:20.039
huge trouble and cannot be saved by anyone.

686
00:54:22.039 --> 00:54:23.639
Exactly. It's wild.

687
00:54:23.800 --> 00:54:26.079
It is absolutely wild. How did this affect the rest

688
00:54:26.079 --> 00:54:29.639
of your life? You know, living through these different encounters

689
00:54:29.840 --> 00:54:34.239
in your junior high in high school years.

690
00:54:35.280 --> 00:54:43.679
Yeah, it made me think, Wow, there's this is It

691
00:54:43.880 --> 00:54:47.440
just made me think that the Sasquatch, big footlet legend

692
00:54:47.519 --> 00:54:51.119
is not just a legend, it's real. I mean they're

693
00:54:51.159 --> 00:54:54.239
out there just like me or you. I mean they're

694
00:54:55.199 --> 00:54:58.599
they're they're they're out there. I mean it made me,

695
00:55:00.639 --> 00:55:10.239
it made me really really wonder and uh, it's just yeah,

696
00:55:10.320 --> 00:55:12.800
I've and I've hiked since I've went on a few

697
00:55:12.880 --> 00:55:20.760
hikes since then, always wondering and always looking for it.

698
00:55:21.480 --> 00:55:26.119
For the sasquatch, always on my mind when I'm out hiking,

699
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you know, and some of the hikes it took. Now

700
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there's just too many people around. Uh, it's not as

701
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secluded like it was. You have to really go farther

702
00:55:40.000 --> 00:55:46.039
out to get to feel like you're a remote you know,

703
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out in the woods. If you go up Mountain New Highway.

704
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Now it's just like I said, just a lot of

705
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campgrounds and uh, and I'm curious to see what go like.

706
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It looks like I want to take another hike this

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00:56:03.880 --> 00:56:08.719
year and somewhere. I'm just going to stay in the

708
00:56:08.719 --> 00:56:14.960
Pacific Northwest and probably take another hike somewhere and always

709
00:56:15.039 --> 00:56:18.760
have that in the back of my mind. And there's

710
00:56:19.400 --> 00:56:24.360
probably shot squatches around, big foots whatever you want to

711
00:56:24.400 --> 00:56:28.920
call them, absolutely, and I think the Pacific Northwest here

712
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is just there's so many sightings. The Olympic Mountains is

713
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like a really big hot spot.

714
00:56:38.880 --> 00:56:44.960
Form Stephen, this has been such an enjoyable conversation. We've

715
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talked a little bit on the show about the Granite

716
00:56:48.199 --> 00:56:52.519
Falls area, so it's always nice to hear of different

717
00:56:52.559 --> 00:56:57.159
areas that are close by and just for contact for listeners.

718
00:56:57.199 --> 00:57:01.760
If you go over to the BFRO website. Uh, this

719
00:57:01.760 --> 00:57:06.360
this takes place in Snawhomish County, and I believe it's

720
00:57:06.599 --> 00:57:13.400
number four on the list of highest reported Bigfoot encounters

721
00:57:13.559 --> 00:57:18.079
in Washington. It's the number four reported counties. So you know,

722
00:57:18.119 --> 00:57:21.280
if you want to hear more from these areas that

723
00:57:21.440 --> 00:57:24.000
Stephen has been sharing, if you go to BFRO o

724
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dot now or the Bigfoot Mapping Project, it's there too.

725
00:57:26.719 --> 00:57:32.039
Either way, you can see more encounters from this county

726
00:57:32.079 --> 00:57:34.719
in Washington, just a ton ton of things that have

727
00:57:34.760 --> 00:57:37.239
happened there over the years. But you know, Steven, I

728
00:57:37.280 --> 00:57:39.360
want to make sure just to double check that you've

729
00:57:39.360 --> 00:57:41.880
been able to share everything that you want to share

730
00:57:42.239 --> 00:57:43.199
on the show today.

731
00:57:45.599 --> 00:57:50.880
Yeah, I think I've covered it. Yeah, Yeah, I think

732
00:57:50.920 --> 00:57:56.280
I pretty much covered my story. And yeah, thanks for

733
00:57:56.320 --> 00:58:00.880
having me. Jeremiah absolutely want. I've been wanting. I've been

734
00:58:00.920 --> 00:58:05.480
wanting to share the stories for a long time, and

735
00:58:05.559 --> 00:58:08.840
I think I tried to post them one time. I'm

736
00:58:08.880 --> 00:58:13.039
not sure if I posted them. It's the post one

737
00:58:13.119 --> 00:58:17.719
now or whatever. I'm going It's a little bit about him,

738
00:58:17.760 --> 00:58:21.320
but this is the first time, actually, well this first

739
00:58:21.360 --> 00:58:26.440
time I actually getting my story out there, and I

740
00:58:26.440 --> 00:58:29.360
appreciate the time you took to let me share it.

741
00:58:31.360 --> 00:58:34.840
Absolutely. If you ever, you know, have anything else happened

742
00:58:34.840 --> 00:58:39.000
that you would need a place to share, you know,

743
00:58:39.079 --> 00:58:41.599
feel free to reach out, you know how to contact me.

744
00:58:41.719 --> 00:58:44.679
But just thank you for coming on the show today, Stephen.

745
00:58:46.039 --> 00:58:47.639
Okay, great, thank you. Jeremie.

746
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Just wanted to take a minute to say thank you

747
00:58:51.679 --> 00:58:53.920
truly for listening to this episode of the big Foot

748
00:58:53.960 --> 00:58:57.239
Society podcast. Stephen's story is one of those rare encounters

749
00:58:57.239 --> 00:59:00.239
that makes you question what's really out there. So huge

750
00:59:00.280 --> 00:59:03.440
thanks to Stephen for sharing his unforgettable experiences from the

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woods of Washington. If you've enjoyed this conversation, please subscribe,

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helps more people find us. Now, if you or someone

757
00:59:21.760 --> 00:59:23.719
you know has had a Bigfoot encounter, especially in the

758
00:59:23.800 --> 00:59:26.719
Lake Stevens or Granite Falls area of Washington, I'd love

759
00:59:26.760 --> 00:59:28.639
to hear from you, so shoot me an email at

760
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Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com and let's talk and

761
00:59:32.519 --> 00:59:35.639
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thanks again for being part of the Bigfoot Society. Until

767
00:59:52.360 --> 00:59:54.719
next time, keep your eyes open, trust your gut, and

768
00:59:54.760 --> 00:59:57.000
never stop asking what else might be out there?

769
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And see you in the woods.