Face to Face and My Dog Paid the Price! | Oregon

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1:10 Hello. Hi, this is Jeremiah. Hey Jeremiah, how you doing. I'm doing great? You had called earlier, right, sir. Yes, sir, I love the message. Perfect, perfect, and I assume since you have the phone number, you've done the form at an earlier time. Yes, sir, perfect, And what's your name, sir Mark? My name is Mark. Awesome, Well Mark, I nah, no, we'll just keep it. But I appreciate that. So I was skimming through your skimming through your voicemail, and it's very interesting and I'm going to go ahead and give the reins over to you, Mark, and feel free to share what we've got going on.

1:54 All I ask is that we keep the calls as clean language as we can, since it is thank you. Oh yeah, oh yeah, I do that. Yeah, no problem there at all. Okay, go right ahead, sir, All right. Yeah. My name is from Market. I'm from Oregon, Florence, Oregon. And I've been in Oregon now for twelve years. And I'm originally from Ohio. A matter of fact, right there in Sael, Ohio where sought Fork is State Park where the Grassman is had an encounter there. I didn't really see him there, but I knew he was there. And me and my girlfriend went camping and it was in the end of October, and in the October we have Indians somewhere, and it was a very nice weekend, so we decided we'd stayed over one more night. Well, everybody left.

2:55 It was a Sunday, and everybody left. I mean there was not one person in this whole park except me and her. Well we uh, I'll make it real quick. We went down to take a shower and when we pulled in, I just it didn't feel right and something was just not right. So she got out of the vehicles, she went in. She was taking her you know, her shower, and you could hear her in there singing, you know, and I thought, well. It's just me, it's my imagination. And so I said, hmm, all right, Well I went in and take my shower, and there's windows up and there are like seven eight foot up these land windows, and uh, I just I don't know. It just found like something was watching me the whole time. I just could not shake the ceiling. I mean, it was kind of scary. And so I went back out and I walked the whole perimeter of it and just looked around to see if somebody was there.

4:05 You know, I just it was weird. So I had my dog with me. He was a wolf hybrid and named the Coda, and he was the offest doll, was the best doll. Can you I just can't tell you. I mean man's companion. Well, anyway, I got him out of the truck and I took him into the restroom with me because I mean it was I just couldn't get the ceiling off of me. So I I brought him in the bathroom and I said, now you just lay down there. Well, he couldn't get comfortable. He was just looking around, and I could tell something was bothering this doll. So I got the tower and I tell how bad it was. I didn't even close the curtain in the shower when I was taking my shower, you know, I was that it was that bad, it was that intense. So I got done, you know, I take the dog out, you know, and I throw him back up in the truck and I'm sitting here waiting on my girlfriend and getting done in the shower, and you know, and out she comes out of the shower, you know, And I wasn't going to say anything, kirks.

5:16 I didn't want her to be scared. You know, And you know, I just I was like, no, I'm not going to say a word. I'm just gonna just go back to camp. Just you know, it's all on my head, you know, that's all. I kept saying to myself, it's on your head, marks on your head. So we go back and we make our dinner, and you know, sat around the campfire for a little bit, drank a couple of drinks, and you know, said, okay, well we had an old coolman can I don't know if you remember them, but they were round and they had to pull it went up in the center and it's about all seven. Foot tall, maybe a little bit taller than that. I could stand up in it, you know, no problem, loop arms around, you know, and I mean it's really tall.

6:02 So I got everything in the tent. You know, it's you know, I packed them all, all the food up in the truck and you know, went in the tent. They then, and I had my pistol with me. I always taken because bears, you know whatever, marmots or you don't know, you know anymore about people. So I put the gun down next to me. Well, I had to call my lantern next to me, so it was right right next to the edge of the tent, so I shut it off. You know, while we're laying there, and I hear something walking up this hill. I mean, it was a big hill too, went right down to the lake.

6:45 And I'm like, well, that's a person walking and my girlfriend's like, no, it's a deer. No, that's something walking up this hill coming toward us. Well, it got closer and closer and closer. And my dog was just his hair was up on the back with no just standing right up on the back of neck. And I'm like, there's something out there. But I told him you lay down, you know, just chill out, lay down right there. Well, you know, we're laying there for man, And all of a sudden you. Can hear it come up to the top where our tent was right next to it, and you could hear it breathe, I mean ex heal, and you could tell whatever it was it was huge, okay, And I'm like, sh quiet, and she was. My girlfriend was almost in tears.

7:42 She was so scared, you know, and I said, just be cool. You know. Well, next thing we know, something had grabbed the center of that tent, and that ten seven and seven foot seven and a half foot tall grabbed the center of that tent and shook it, just shook it. And I swear to god, it only lasted maybe all twenty seconds, but it felt like two hours and the corn lander hit me in the side of the head and it was hot still, you know, I just shut it off. So I grabbed my pistol and I said, I got a pistol, you know, go away, I'll shoot you.

8:23 Because I didn't know if it. Was a person. I didn't know what it was, but I know it was big whatever it was, right, So it started slapping the side of the tent and I by this time, my girlfriend's in tears, just going hysterical. The dog's going crazy. I mean, it was just like, oh, what am I going to do here? So I I said, I gotta do something. I reached down to grab the zipper of that tent, and you know how that's always got that little part in it, the nylon that locks into the zipper. Oh. I was doing everything I could. Unlocked, got zipper, stood raise up and open up so I could get out. So by this time, I'm hearing it going back down the hill, okay, and.

9:11 I pulled it zip T do it. I mean, I was just gonna rip it open. I didn't care at that point because I was so scared. I mean I was. I always shot it right there on the spot. You know if I could have got out, Well. Pretty soon she got it done zipped. I jump out and I'm hearing it going down down the side of the hill and the dog takes off after it, and I hear it, yelp, my dog, yelp. Well here he comes running back and he dives into his tent and it's like, wow, what is wrong with you? Just thought was not afraid of nothing. This thought would take on a mountain line and not even say nothing about it. He was just protected. I mean, that was that he's a wolf. Well so I said, well what was that? You know, what was that? Well, out I'm looking for tracks. You know, we never could ever find out what it was. It was dry. It was so dry.

10:20 I wasn't going to leave a track, you know, it was so dry. And uh so that was my first encounter with as. That was a bigfoot. Okay, the grass man, they said, because I talked to Rain when ranger came around to collect the dudes for the campsite, I said, you know, I think we had an encounter. And he's like, well, you know, we have a lot of encounters here and I was telling him about you know, He's like, well, really, I really do believe you really did. And my girlfriend said, we're packing up now, let's leave right now, and she would not I stayed there again. We packed all that stuff up, went home. Well, we moved to Oregon about three months later, and uh, there wasn't no jobs here at the time. I mean the market for jobs was really bad at the time. And I said, well, what am I going to do to make money here? Extra money or something, you know, because I'm retired from Honda Murder Corporation. I was an automotive engineer there. And uh, I said, so what am I going to do? And some guys go, oh, do collect chantrell They pay you know, good money. Well, I've collected. I've always collected moral mushrooms in Ohio my whole life, you know, and all kinds of mushrooms. But I didn't know what a schantrall was.

11:47 So they had to show me. Well. I got a crew together of nine Mexican women that works for this lady, and she said, all these are great pictures. Take come out, you know, the take him on golf given to you. They're great workers. So we went out hunting and we'd go on all the back rooms, all of them and we did very, very very well. We had a crew of nine, you know, exam and meet ten people, and we did very well commercially. Chickenneyes well. One day we were by. Alpine Monroe area and uh in Oregon and uh.

12:34 It was up on the hill and they were the women were all down below the hill down because we talked a la of shan trunk all the side of this hill and they were just having a last Icckneys things, laughing and having a good time. Let's say, I know, I was up on the top of the hill because I wanted to. See what was on the other side. And there was a clearing, you know, like oh where the trees ended, and you know, and then they had long dis partner their trees up here. Well, pretty soon there was a roar and I'm not I'm not kidding.

13:15 This roar was like nothing I've ever ever heard in my whole entire life. This shook me up a minute and I was like, what is that? And next next thing I know, there was this thing was coming through the trees. I mean, it was big whatever it was, and I thought, what is that. I didn't I didn't have any idea, you know, I'm from Ohio. You know, we don't have nothing like that there. You know what we do, we have the grass Man. But anyway, this thing was coming up through the trees like King Kong. I swear to God that's that's exactly what it reminded me of. It was just knocking limbs down, breaking limbs, breaking the tree, you know, just coming up this out of the clearing. Next thing I know, there he was right there. I mean, he was probably all probably thirty yards from me, if that much, and all I had on me was a block nine milimeter, you know, and I knew this was not going to do anything to you.

14:32 This thing was huge. It was probably a good eight foot just I mean, I've never seen no man ever built like this in my whole entire life. His chest was huge, probably a good I swear he had to be at least four foot wide. I mean, just huge. I've never seen anything like this in my life. And my mind is like, it's like telling me, this don't exist, This don't exist. This is a figment of your imagination. Mark Big for society will be right back after these messages.

15:27 I mean, I just couldn't. I just couldn't get it in my head. What I was looking at. Well, these ladies down below that were picking the mushrooms, they all were like real quiet, pointing at it, and they had their telephones and they were taking pictures of their telephones, and I mean they were like flipping out. Well, and he's looking right at me and never took his eyes off me. And I'm staring back again, like what is going on here? What are you going to do? You know, are you going to come at me? I had no idea. I couldn't. My brain just would not would not function.

16:09 It would number one tat ask our truth. I peed my pants. I was that scared. I didn't know what to do. I mean, the van's way. Down to Bombas Hill where they were, so I'm screaming at him, get in the van, Get in the van right now. Well, my dog was in the van because we were having problems with deer and elk and he'd take off running after the deer and elk and I got tired of that. And now you're in the van until you could act right. You know. Well, he's raising Holy Kane. Sheus Holy Kane in his van.

16:52 And I told him, don't let that dog out, Do not let that dog out. Well, uh, this thing just started looking at me and then it started coming at me, and it was like, not what am I going to do? He's going to kill me? This is I'm going to get killed right here. You know what am I gonna do? Well, I put my gun and I mean I shot it right over a tad, get right over a head. I mean that's all I could do was hopefully get a shot that would have wound it to hurt it because he was going to kill me. I knew he was going to He was going to hurt me bad if he got me. Well, he reared back when I shot that gun and his teeth, I mean he the look he dave me was dude, if I get a hold of you, I'm going to hurt you bad. Okay, he was not afraid, but he was afraid of that gun. So he must have hurt it once before. So he had to hurt a gun once before because he reared back.

18:00 Okay, next thing, I. Know, he's turning around, but he's keeping his eyes on me as he's walked back up into those trees. Right. So I said, okay, I don't want to run because because I don't want him to chase. You know, a predator chases you. That's exactly what he was. As far as I was concerned with a predator. He was a wild animal. He wasn't a human. I mean he looked human in ways, like the face I. Mean he was. He was brown, like a brown or like a brown black. You know, he's so brown. He was black. And he had the hair on the like four inch hair all over his body except for his face and his eyes.

18:46 I'll never forget his eyes as long as I live, and I still have nightmares over they were like piercing me. They were like going right through me. I mean, I've never seen eyes like that in my whole entire life. Never, never, never, don't ever want to again either. Okay, And I'm thinking, you know, I always wanted to see Bigfoot, but I didn't want to see it like this. You know, I didn't know it would be an aggressive thing. I thought it would be like, you know, we see you hear people talk, Oh hey, you cross the road right in front of me. You know, just idea he's by wave and act as he's doing. He's probably a friendly guy, you know, just wants to be left alone. Okay, and.

19:33 Not this well, can we ask some questions about what you saw? I'm yeah, so there's some really interesting comments coming in. So you were able to see the teeth. Were they like canine teeth or all flat like uh chick lit gun? They were like block teeth, like a block teeth, you like, you know what I'm talking about. They were square, are blocked? Let me Okay, he showed me. You showed me every one of them. Okay, Okay, I mean I grew up in the woods. I've been in the woods my whole entire life. When I was a kid, you know, summer June first to be there and well I wouldn't see my parents again to August stuff.

20:23 Okay, I mean I hunted. I think I did everything in the woods. Okay, my whole. Life, I've been like that. And you know, it's like I've never seen anything like this. What is this thing? And that it dawned on me this is what they call bigfoot? Okay. Well, these ladies, these ladies in the van were so scared. I mean they were screaming and stuffing, and I had them screaming. I had the dog going off down there. I have him growling and screaming at me. Like he wants to kill me. Okay, after he comes through. The woods like ting kong. Okay, I mean I was scared.

21:05 I'm not. I'm not telling. I won't lie to you. I'm not. I was petrified. Okay. I'm thinking why those saves them? Okay, I gotta save myself. But I much rather he got me than all nine of them, because he gets me. The keys are in ignition, they will leave. Okay, all right. Well, so so when he left, you can hear him just raison King going back to the trees. Right. Well, somebody let the dog out. Okay. I couldn't say ground the dog, but the dog chasing this thing. Down the trees.

21:46 And I'm hearing the Holy King going on with this dog in him is at it okay, and I'm thinking, I'm gonna kill my dogs. Don't kill my dog. Next thing I know, all I heard was a yellp and they hurt nothing else. Okay, yeah, dead quiet, dead quiet. Well, you know, I. Couldn't leave these women down in the van, so I but I knew the dog would come out eventually, you know, if you know killing he was coming out. So I went down to the van and I told him, look, I want you to go find a park ranger, a police officer, somebody, and I want him up here came my dog's gone now and I got to find a dog.

22:33 And they were like, oh, we're so scared, we're scared, which I said, take the van and find somebody. Okay, Well, I mean I had my cell phone, but there was no service where we was at. I mean we was in the middle of nowhere. So uh, I said, just go to the ranger station and get somebody hurt, and find a police station and go to Mont Road. They have a substation there, you know. Well, they went and about and I stood there froment. Singing, oh, I gotta find my dog. He got a dog. He's not out yet, you know. So I took off to find him and I went in about fifty yards and I still cry this day because this bag was the best dog I ever had my life. Here's my dog. He's hanging from him about twelve foot up. Okay did and I was like, you know, you have to be a priest, roll saying human animal, whatever you want to call this thing to throw that dog.

23:48 He weighed one hundred and twenty six pounds up twelve feet into a tree, okay, And then I look around and you know that. The rims for like a semi that they used for the fire pit. There was two of them up there. You know, you know how heavy nose are now, and I'll look at those goes, what the heck? And this this it was like a picnic pavilion type thing that was up there for I guess somebody built it for their family and they probably camped there a lot. They used it, you know, when they went camping there. You know, this thing was demolished.

24:31 It was pour up. And there's the two fire rings in this tree. They're about pinot up there, and there's my golf so about all. Probably a half hour later, here they come and they've got a uh a park ranger, a raker, you know, get our guy. And I said, Sarah, could you can you come here? I got I gotta show you. I said, I'll tell you the story. And you know, you know what he tells me, just what he tells me. Please don't tell me you saw a big foot clothing you do? He said. Now, I don't know if this is fact or not, but he said, if you do, then I'm gonna have to take your driver's license. Now. Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna have to take your driver's license because you're not sensible, you're not thinking correctly. I said, what are you talking about my driver's license? Yeah, it's I don't know if.

25:34 It's true or it's not. I try to find out from every state highway control that I can talk to about it and stuff. They said, they can take your driver's license if you report you saw a bigfoot while you're driving a vehicle. If the keys are in ignition, then there's something wrong with you. Yeah. Yeah, that's exactly what he said. Wait a minute, Look my dog, my dog was twelve feet year and I measured it. My dogs twelve feet in year, one hundred and twenty six pound dog. How did my dog get up there? I had them in a mountain lion and he drug him up there. Oh no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no.

26:16 Ask them women what they saw. Ask them they got pictures on their telephones. Ask them. He said, look, I'm not here to discuss this with you anymore. Now, what is it you saw? And he made me appear like I was a liar, like I was nuts? And oh I took offense to that, and he's like, sir, now shut down. We can go downtown and talk about it. He did not care one bit. He didn't care what I saw what. He did not care about it. And three the way he played okay, well pretty soon here comes two more. I said, well, can't you just go up there and investigate it and see what knocked outs?

27:05 Were broke everywhere this, this pavilion's all busted up. You got tire rims, semi tire rims in a tree. Ten foot up. The weigh probably one hundred and fifty five hundred and sixty pounds. You know, it's like, wait a minute, okay, how did those get up there? A kids? Kids, kids, just they just vandalism, They just destroy everything. I could not believe what I was hearing. I was so mad. I was so it's like, you're not going to take any kind of report. Oh, I'll take a report and then I'll take your license. What what you know? I think he cared about was how many mushrooms did we pick?

27:55 And did I have a commercial permit? That's what he asked me. Not care about my dog. He did not care about our well being. He did not care what we saw. He did not care about anything. But yet he would not do any further into the woods by hisself. Okay, I said, go ahead, go down and investigate that. Do your investigation, because I'm telling you what I saw. Don't stand here. Look, I have an automotive engineer, I am highly educated. I didn't believe in it either. If you would have told me, you know, five years before that I was gonna see Big Florid, I'd be like, yeah, sure I will, okay, yeah, sure, sure, you know, let me tell you it exists. I don't care what anybody ever says to me about it. I know what I saw. Okay, So there is no argument of they don't exist. Well, you better come up with a little bit more of an argument than that, okay, because because if you would have been there that day, you'd be the same way I am now. And you know that was that's no what twelve years ago, and you know I haven't been in the woods one day since.

29:16 Don't care to, don't care to ever go back in the woods. None. None, And I and I live in Scottsburgh, Oregon. Now it went surrounded my mountains and woods. Okay, but I won't go into the woods. Uh aust Okay, no way, no way at all, okay, man, because I know what's out there. I know what's out there. I've seen it now. I believe they're migratory. You know, they follow like where their food sorts is. You know, they go from north to south. You know that there's sam and the berries that you know, whatever, the deer, the elk.

30:05 You know. I believe they're migratory, and I do believe that they do. They do go underground where there's lava tubes and stuff. I do believe that, Okay. But how he just disappears, Well, I don't understand he was. I heard him kill my dog and then it was dead silence like like it just disappeared like he was. You know what I'm saying. That's I have so many questions that I'd like somebody to answer that they can't. Why I would be the same way? Mark Big for society, who will be right back after these messages? Yeah, I'm sorry you lost your dog.

31:09 Yeah you know you said a good dog too. You know, he would have died for me, and he did die for me. He died protecting us. Okay, Well, you know what, not one of them nine women ever went back in the woods again, none of them. As a matter of fact, a lot of them went back to Mexico. Yeah, he's asking the lady that hired him. She's like, what do you get to him? I can't get him to work. Well, yeah, if you won't, I'm not working for you anymore. I'm not working in the woods anymore. I don't do that anymore. Sorry. No, I used to love the camp.

31:52 I used to love to go out and fish. You know, I'd be a. Spirit lake out there in the middle of nowhere, you know, I mean, you know I got go work. No man would go you know, but not anymore. Mark, Sorry, is that is that spirit lake by Oakridge? Yes? Yes, okay. I used to love to go there. Did I used to love to go there. Okay, So I have I have questions, Mark, I'm gonna we're gonna put a pin in that first. Did the ladies? Did you ever see the photos that they took? Yes, yes, like they were way down the bottom of the hill, but you can see it. I mean it looks like it looks like it's just a big gorilla, is what. It appears that it had the cone head, you know, like a corn head and no neck that I saw.

32:43 I mean, there was hardly any any neck. Okay. The arms were were like down past his knees. That's what where it got me. Like, how awkward do you look like he was? He was? I mean he moved by. I think I'd ever seen move in fast. He was quick and I mean he I think if you really want to do, he could have gotten me really quick. You wouldn't have been afraid of that gun. But I know he's hurt a gun because just the way he reacted when I shot it, Okay, and I knew I only had you know, the only way I was going to hurt him was a head shot basically, and that's where I was heading. I mean, I'm sorry. I don't want to see him die. I don't think nothing like that should die. I think something like that should be studied. You know, it's a bear.

33:36 When did the organ Kody acts? And that's what it looked like. Mark, Did you happen to get the photo any of the photos from those ladies I got? I got some on my SIM card on my telephone. But but okay, how do I put it? Okay? Okay? The phone died? Okay, die well, the battery just went compote. Well, there's SIM cards there, but somebody said, if you don't do it right, you're going to erase everything on a SIM card. I got the phone and I want it professionally done, okay, and I just have it. I just haven't had it done, but I want it professionally done when when it's done, because you might only get one shot, okay. And I tried to download it on a computer once and it acted like it was going to erase everything, and I know I didn't didn't know, So that's why I want it professionally done. And I swear when I get it done, and it's going to be soon, because I want questions answered. I want somebody to tell me where did this come from?

34:51 Did we create this? You know? Is this a man made thing? Or is this from a thousand years. Ago that it's evolved and. Still a round? Or because it did it look like a man. Gorilla? Does that make sense? No, it totally does it. I hope that you are able to get the photos off of those that SIM card, and definitely I would love it if you you keep me in the loop with what happens with that mark. Are you going you're going to do the bigfoot finger bu. Right, I'll be there. I want to look you up. I'm going to look you up when I if you don't mind, I do. Yeah, and uh okay, And that's when is that.

35:36 That is July? I want to say, July nineteenth coming up is when it's. Okay, you know what, And I'm going to make I'm gonna I'm going to put big effort in to get this thing developed. Please, And you're the only one I want to see see. You're the only one I want. To look at because you know. I want you just tell me with you see Okay, okay, ye, you tell me what you see, yes, sir, Right when I look at I know what it was because you know so my my opinion means nothing those words because I know what it was. But I want somebody that don't have no.

36:18 Idea about nothing to look at that picture and tell me what it is. Okay. And I'm going to get it professionally done, trust. Me, absolutely, like try to get maybe printed out, try to get the digital version. But I wanted to talk to you about Spirit Lake because Spirit Lake I've talked to a gentleman about and they had some really intense bigfoot sightings at that lake, which is pretty remote out there by Oakridge and Macready Springs. I had two buddies that went up there and had the same thing. Okay, but I used to go up there all the time. I had problems bears, but I never had a problem with them big foot or anything.

37:03 But I had two buddies that went up there that they were literally scared out. They never saw anything, they just heard like it was yeah, like it was uh like it was you know, like, oh, what's the world when he like, uh like, oh what's the world like trying to get them like trapping them like you know what I'm saying, Yeah, and uh and they're going to be with me at the Bigfoot. They all have them tell you their little story because yeah, they will, they will. This one will scare you. This is going to be intense.

37:46 I'm telling you everything I'm telling you now is honest to God truth. I have no reason to lie. Why would I lie. You. I mean, I mean to hear some tell you this. Yeah, you know, if somebody to minutes, I'd be like, yeah, you were to take a nap, okay. But what I'm telling you, every bit of it is a gospel truth, every bit of it. And I mean, I'll tell you the same story. And you asked me next next week to sit tell me, and I'll tell you the exact same story. And it's not because I rehearse nothing. It's because it's all going through my brain. I mean, there are tons I've missed telling you too.

38:32 You know. Oh, buddy, I can't wait. I'm so glad. I am so glad. I met you. I am so glad because I'll tell you. I just want question. I want my government to answer my questions. And you know what I'd really like is is if there's been a big foot sighted there, you know wherever, just put up a sign that says, look, we're being a big foot side of there. So if you've got children, we're going to give you the option. You don't have to stay here, you can go down the road inside it. Okay. But but they need to put something up. I don't care what it is, okay.

39:18 I mean they said, oh, they can't say it existed. It'll ruin the timber industry. No it won't. How's it going to ruin the timber industry? This thing migrates. It's not like it lives on one spot like the spotted out does Okay, I mean, uh, a small there's one area to a life a bigfoot, don't. I mean there's I guess there are some that do you know where they're where they have the resources to live year round. But I think three quarters i'd passed a nine tens of migrate okay, and they got little plans. Okay. I mean that's why they don't find a body.

39:59 Because I guarantee. You somebody shoots one, you better. Be prepared to take on about eight or ten of. Them because they're coming, absolutely, okay, absolutely, okay, they're coming. Oh yeah, Okay. That's why when one dies, its body is taken away. It's it's buried, or it's in a latitube, or it's it's someplace. And one day somebody's going to start finding where they hid these things. Okay. We don't know why they've been sticks and have these uh tree things in the croppings out in the middle of the woods. We don't know that maybe that's their burial site. We don't know that. We have no clue. Nobody knows nothing about them because we don't take the time to study that.

40:42 Okay, we don't care. It's like I care. I want to know. Okay, why did you bend that branch like that? You know why? It's that a direction? He wants you go that way? Or is he telling other big footst go that way? Or I don't know? You know, I want to know, and uh, I don't know. I've read every book. I can't. Yeah, but nobody everyone has hard none of the answers. It's all guess you know, it's I don't know. It's just as many people are seeing him. Now, tell me he doesn't exist. Really, how can you really look at somebody and say, oh, no, he don't exist. That's because you haven't seen him, and you're jealous because you haven't seen him. Okay, yes, so you know. I you can take my story for what it or, but let me tell you it's it's actual, it's factual. I got pictures. I just got to get it developed, and I will have to developed by that.

41:47 I'll make it a point. Now that I'm talking to you, I feel so much better. Keep it off my chest. You know you can't tell nobody you do. You just can't tell somebody this story? Then look at you like you're insane. You know, but trust me, I'm a very educated person. I mean I designed the Cords and Civics for twenty two years. Okay, wow, So yeah, I didn't want to see I didn't ask to see this thing. I mean, that was the last thing in my mind. Was just thing coming out of the woods one day. Oh. I didn't even want to see it. Okay. I was just trying to do my job. Okay, and ruined my whole life.

42:31 I'm looking forward to chatting with you more at Oakridge. Oh, I can't wait. I'm glad you called in. I know this was this was extremely tough for you to share, but I'm glad you did. And we'll talk more later. My email is big for society at gmail dot com. You can keep in touch with me that way. But oh yes, I'm just thankful that we got to talk tonight. And yeah, me too. I'll talk to you lady too. All right, Hey, listen, thank you very much for your time. I briefed so much better. Thank you very very much. Thank you Mark for colling, and we'll be in touch. Okay, all right, but thank you bye.

43:17 Holy mackerel. Uh, that was really wild. That was one of the most intense calls I've ever taken. And the story is gonna continue at Sasbatch Summer Fest and Oakridge if he gets those photos off of that sim card. Yeah, Frank, if you missed the first part of that. This is one where you need to catch the replay of any episode. You need to catch the replay to hear what happened. And I'll be talking to uh Mark's buddies about what they experienced up at Spirit Lake, which, if you remember, a few a week or so ago, we heard from a gentleman who had intense encounters up at Spirit Lake, sasquatch encounters.

44:16 Mark. I could tell Mark was very I mean, if your dog got thrown up twelve feet in a tree, I would be I would be emotionally done. Thank you Mark. Well, Hi, this is Jeremiah. Is this h the individual that just tried to call me? Yes, sir, are you doing? Jeremiah? Great? And who is this. Rose Rose? Yeah? Grow as in grow a garden z as in rhymes with Jose.

44:58 Thank you so Grose awesome? Well, thanks for calling in. I saw I saw a transcription of your voicemail. It looks very interesting. I'm going to go ahead, and I would love to have you share what you've experienced up there. Grose. Wow, cool, it's true story, true stories, Yes, sir? When and what should I. Do big for society? Will be right back after these messages, So if if you would like, I see you've got a few things you're calling in about from northern California.

45:56 I will go. Ahead, and sorry, I need to put on do not disturb a few people calling in. But yeah, I'll let you go ahead and share what you encountered up there, and the floor is yours. Wow, okay, cool, I'll do my best. I will start from the first experience and go through my list, yes, sir, and tell it how it is. I was up in Humboldt County. I moved up there in two thousand, I'm sorry, in nineteen ninety six, and I lived there till two thousand and seven. And I've always been interested in Sasquatch, so I knew that Humboldt County was a big bigfoot area.

46:45 There was lots of people's sidings that were reported to go back hundreds of years even when they were logging the place. The very first original loggers had lots of stories. But anyways, I was wanting to get out and hike around and look and see if I can't find any signs of Bigfoot or whatever. Actually, that day, I was not really actually that bigfoot, honey, of course, I was out looking for a place to where I can grow. I was hiking around and I looked for the most the hardest to get to place where I could cross the stream. And I walked up to the stream and jumped over a few rocks, and there was a cliff across the stream, and I saw a big vine hanging down, so I figured I could use that a rope as a rope to climb up the cliff, about a twenty foot cliff.

47:55 So I did that. I shimmed up the top and I, like I said, I was looking for the hardest place to get to because I didn't want anyone going near my area. So I was walking hiking through the bushes and I heard this whistling. It was a quick and I was like, wow, that sound like a human, literally sound like a person whistling, real crispy, clear. And I heard it again and I looked and I didn't see nothing, so I kept walking. Then I heard another whistle on the other side of me, and I was like I've been in them woods, in the Redwoods. I'd lived out there for six months out in the woods with earth First North Coast earth First, or a group of people that say the Redwoods from the loggers illegal practices. Anyway, I've recognized this as a human, so I because I've never I heard a bird like that.

49:00 So I thought to myself, maybe there's some growers around there and their lookouts up in the trees or something. So I was looking around. They kept walking and then I heard more whistling, so I kind of froze and sat there. I sat down on some rocks, and then on the left side of me, I heard this tree shaking and really really violently, and I turned around. I looked and all a whole bunch of leaves fell to the ground. They were still falling as I looked. It was only being shaken for like two seconds, and I was like, whoa. All the branches were wiggling, and like I said, leaves by the hundreds came off the tree.

49:46 And then I looked up in the crook of the tree and I could see what looked to me like a red furry, big hairy orang iting. That is what I kind of was thinking. I was looking at and I could see its face, and I could see its belly, and it looked pregnant to me, had a big, giant pregnant belly, and I could see it looking right at me. And then it started to disappear. It started to like blend in and disappear. I could see bushes on the other side of it through its belly. Was what I was looking at, was the big pregnant belly. And then next thing you know, it was disappearing, and all I could see was the face for the rest of the time, for the most part, and it never stopped looking at me.

50:41 And then I heard more whistling coming down in some noise in the bushes up up the hill, and it kept getting closer and closer. I kept the whistle would end up like ten seconds apart. The whistle would be one hundred feet closer, and I was like, Oh my god, what am I tripping out here? This thing is starting to kind of freak me out. So I started getting scared, and I felt that the thing in the tree it was disappearing was very friendly or docile compared to the other energy I was getting from it was coming down the hill. So I just got up and left, and I just said, I'm out of here. You I felt the major pressure. I felt kind of scared, you know, And I was like, I was staring at this thing up in the tree the whole time, thinking, am I going crazy? Am I seeing? Did I just see a female pregnant orangutan looking bigfoot up in the tree disappear on me? So I just got up and I left, and then I was walking back down towards the stream, and I went back down the same route that went like a rope that went down to the stream, and I crossed the stream and I left, and then I drove about four miles down the road and saw this bridge that I'd been wanting to check out. So I

52:11 pulled over and I wanted to look under the bridge, so I kind of went down the stream next to the bridge, and I made my way down right to the stream to the creek Elk River it's called actually right outside of Eureka. And next thing you know, I'm sitting there squatting down by the looking down kind of kneeled over, looking at the river looking for salmon or you know, some still head. Just checking it out. See if I could see any fish, and I noticed the bridge was completely just overgrown. There was all these bushes that were pushed up against the bridge, like the river came down through a major storm and pushed a bunch of branches and trees up against the bridge, so you couldn't even see underneath the bridge. I couldn't see what was in there. And I was sitting there probably no more than five minutes, when all of a sudden, I heard nine of the loudest grunts you've ever heard in your life. They just echoed from underneath the bridge, twenty feet away from me, fifteen twenty feet behind all these bushes where I obstruck in my view. And when I heard those grunts, it just froze me up. I felt it through my body. My bone shook, my head was just like, oh my god, what is going on? So I couldn't move. I sat there for about I would

53:42 say at least ten seconds, twenty seconds maybe, and in complete shock. I was like, Oh my god, that thing wants me out of here. It's definitely speaking to me or yelling at a grunt and at me, telling me, communicating me. It's not happy with my presence. So I was completely frozen. I couldn't move. I can't remember trying to trying to think, what am I going to do? What am I going to do? I'm vulnerable. I got to go back up this hill. And right then I heard in my mind. I heard this, get up, turn around, and run up the hill. And I couldn't do it. And I heard it like three times, get up, turn around, run up the hill. Finally I broke out of my temporary I don't know, proalyzation. So I stood up, turned around, and ran up the hill and got in my car, locked my doors my truck, and I left. That was it for that experience. I had a couple other ones.

54:52 Do you mind if I ask you something real quick before you continue? Yes, I love I love the ones where people say it looked like an orangutan. That is so fascinating to me. And do you say you said it actually started to disappear when in the trees, Like was it fading out or it was just fading out? Really? Yes, it was literally not moving at all. It was just all of a sudden becoming translucent, Oh wow, disappearing mainly the belly, the neck was kind of in her head was higher obviously, the belly was huge, and next thing, you know, I could see the bushes behind her, like right through her. They kind of cloaked out and became kind of like just invisible, so I could see the bushes behind her.

55:43 Did the face look like a orangutan as well? Not as rounded and fully apish like an ring ting? The reason I first thought of an ring thing because of the color red, thick hair, and but the face was very similar, don't get me wrong. I mean it was very similar, but it was more harder. It was harder to see because it was a little more obscure, kind of right up against the tree, almost kind of trying to hide its head from me, poking out a little bit, but it couldn't hide it the rest of its belly and everything. The way it was laying in the wide part of the tree, like twenty feet up in the tree where it's a nook. Oh why you know?

56:30 But yeah, yeah, it definitely had that comagnon look. But it was probably fifty feet sixty feet away up and twenty feet twenty thirty feet up in the tree, so I really didn't get the greatest look at the face. I mean, I was staring at the face but it was just like I said, I could just see cheeks the eyes it did. It looked like an ringing tape. If you ask if I were to give the best description. I thank you. I just wanted to ask a quick question on here. But feel free to continue with the rest of what.

57:11 You Okay, yeah, all right. Another time, a friend of mine and I were parked right off the side of this ridge up in Bridgeville. It's in Humble County as well, and we just pulled over and we're looking over the edge over the beautiful view. And next thing you know, I'm looking in my rear view mirror and I see this big oak tree behind me, probably thirty forty feet behind me my car, and all of a sudden, I see this like blur. It almost looked like a mirage or a heat coming off of you know, a roof or whatever. I seen this like weird thing going on, and right then I saw a bigfoot come out of the tree, literally manifested from the tree, came out and to its physical form in my mirror, and it looked me right in the mirror. It came, it went forward all the way, came out of the tree at ground level, just standing there just came out of the tree as if it were part of the tree. And then let next you know, it was him, and he like glided up to my car. I didn't see his legs move, but he went like floated up to the back of

58:42 my trunk, put his hands on my trunk and bent over and looked right through my window, right at me through the rearview mirror. And I started telling the girl next to me looking, don't look, don't turn around, turn don't turn around, look in the mirror. I put her visor mirror down, and she say, what what's going on? I go, don't turn around, look in the mirror. Look in the mirror. And she didn't know what I was saying. I was like, just look in the mirror. And I looked back in the mirror and he was staring at her. She had long blonde dreads and he was staring at her, and I could tell because he was looking at me, and then all his attention was on her hair. And when I was telling him, I mean, I'm telling the girl don't turn around because I didn't want her to startle that. I just wanted her to look in the mirror.

59:33 So anyway, she didn't she didn't. I said it so quick, and it happened so quick. Next thing, you know, he went backwards. I must have startled it a little bit or something. For some reason, it decided that was enough. It only lasted like twenty seconds. He was looking in the mirror on the hands on the back of my trunk, and then he went exactly in reverse back up against a tree. I saw the heat signature again, that that blurry, and he absorbed back into the tree completely disappeared, became the tree again. So Frank, Frank got a.

1:00:16 Good question, real quick, big for society will be right back after these messages. Did the hair of the bigfoot look like your girlfriend's hair in anyway? No? Okay, she had long blond dreads, really blond. The bigfoot that came out of the tree was dark brown. He was almost black, and his face was fully hairy.

1:00:59 I do not remember seeing his eyes unless they they were His face was fully hairy. I didn't see any skin. It was black face. So it was really hard for me to recall if I actually was looking into his eyeballs unless they were dark. They were not bright color, yellow or gold or nothing, red, none, none of that. It was just really dark face, and he it's probably you know, the same size as all the rest seven and eight feet tall. He wasn't a monstrous huge Arnold Schwarzenegger you know physique. So I think it was probably an adolescent or mid teen whatever. It's just not full of a ten foot but a good six and a half seven seven and a half feet tall, but somewhere in there because he was bent over. Anyways, we drove up the road right then, probably about a mile or two, and it was sprinkling a little bit, and we got out and looked at the truck the trunk of the car, and it looked like a smeared handprint, and it was kind of oily too.

1:02:09 I was like, what, oh, really wow. And I looked at it and I was like, yeah, that looks like a handprint because it was smeared, like it slipped up, and I do remember it looked oily. And so anyway, that was that was the extent of that one. I explained to her what I saw, and she she didn't see it. She never she couldn't figure out what was going on. She didn't see it. Unfortunately, how much bigger than your hand or what was the size of the handprint roughly. On oh the size of the size of a catcher's glove. Okay, wow, interesting. With the fingers kind of smeared out, so I couldn't really make it out to look like an exact, straight, flat handprint. It was just looked like one smeared and like it, you know, because it was sprinkling, it was wet.

1:03:02 Right, And your girlfriend didn't see it at any time. She never saw it. No, wow, she never saw it. I don't even know. She believed me because it happened so quick, and I told her we took off and I was like frantic, but yeah, she didn't make anything. It was like nothing to it. She's like, wow, okay, she probably thought I was seeing things. I started thinking I was seeing things for years. I was like, how can that have happened? Because at the point when that happened, I had never heard of him, or of anybody's stories of saying that they're supernatural or they're you know, that they can disappear or appear. I had never heard of at that point. And then after that happened and I moved back down to La County, you know, YouTube and whatnot, I started watching it, and so I started hearing people talk about it.

1:03:52 I was like, well, maybe I wasn't crazy. Maybe you know that twice that I had seen disappear act, so I knew for sure that I was not by myself thinking that, you know, I wasn't the only one that was thinking that they've seen the same thing disappearing. Oh. Absolutely, And you should watch the Flash of Beauty documentaries if you haven't yet done the Flash of Beauty. Yes I have. Yeah, Okay, that's. Great, but yeah, continue, definitely. Okay, and those are those two. And another time I told you the three okay, the one under the bridge, he grunt it at me, and one up in the tree disappeared. Okay. Another time I was walking across this bridge.

1:04:45 It was in the same area where I saw their ringuting looking one. It was just a small foot bridge, probably four maybe three or four feet above the stream. And I've walked that the that foot trail before and the bridge was wide open. But this time when I came to the bridge and had a bunch of branches all over, like a tree fell on it, and I was like, wow, that's kind of strange. So I was kind of walking across the bridge, stepping through the branches and up and over, and like I said this, there was branches all over it. Because you couldn't walk. You couldn't no way just walk right down the bridge. You had to duck and step up and over. So I was doing that and next thing, you know, I was kind of hugging the left side of the bridge and I fell off the bridge. Next so you know, I'm laying down in the stream about three or four or five feet down below on my back. And as I was going down, I was like, oh my god, this is gonna hurt, you know, because I was free falling and I landed, but I did not get hurt. Boom.

1:05:58 I hit the rocks and I was halfway in the water was soaked, and I was like, oh man. And I went to get up and I was like, how the heck that happened? And I looked and I felt like I just got prinked. I felt like I heard two youthful, giggling voices running down the stream and they were invisible, but I heard them. And I looked and I seen the footprint their footsteps splashing as they were running down the stream. I seen water flying up and I was like, did I just hear a couple of kids running down the stream, you know, I was like, what the heck just happened. I'm still laying there. I tried to pick myself up. I'm getting up out of the water. I'm like, where's my shoe? And I'm looking around.

1:06:44 Oh my god, I got to find my shoes. So I started looking in the water, thinking it's going to be floating down the stream. It was just five or seven feet wide, a few inches deep, you know, but it was running pretty good. So I was like, I got to find my shoe. I couldn't find my shoe. I looked all over, standing there, looking under the bridge, looking it went down, and like I said, I thought I saw splash splashing footprints, you know, kids or something. It sounded to me like kids, and I instantly thought, I like, it was like they got me. They pranked me. They just it was as if they had their hand up there as I stepped, and I stepped right into their palm of their hand, and they pulled me off the bridge and yanked my shoe off at the same time.

1:07:33 So there I am looking for my shoe, couldn't find it. I ended up having to hobble all the way back to my car with one shoe on and one missing shoe, and uh. That was it. I got back to my car. And another time, yeah, I didn't. I didn't really say nothing to anyone about it, did I recall? You know, it's I may have brought it up to my friends, but they probably just like, dude, you're not again, you're nuts, you know, your bigfoot crap or whatever. But other. Times they were just I can hear them screaming out by Bluff Creek. Okay, up by Uh so I'm gonna jump in a little bit. So you have you've heard screaming and stuff by Bluff Creek, Yes, yes, out.

1:08:22 There by the the reservation there. Yeah, we're there at a music fest. It was called I can't remember what it was called, Summerfest. And uh, we're camped parked down by the stream, and in fact, I think we're over by the Trinity River at that that night, because we were camping all around and uh, yeah, one night it was just getting dark and we heard these like across the river. A big part of the river, I think it was a Trinity River, probably one hundred feet wide, fifty sixty seventy feet wide, it's the river itself. On the other side, it was fully big timber, full on forest, and we heard a big scream. It was a long, blood curdling, like a.

1:09:23 Oh, screaming hal type, and it lasted about ten seconds, and then we heard right immediately after that, we heard another one further up the canyon. And when that ended, we heard another one way further up the mountains, and then another one even further up the mountains, and I was like, are those echoes, But they weren't. They're all like, no, those are different ones communicating back for them. I was thinking, out of those, there's no hippie could scream that loud, you know who up in the woods. And I could tell by the distance how far and how muffled. The next few were that they were further away, miles up the canyon. They were communicated like a role caller or some All of a sudden, they just decided to sound off, and probably at least heard three or four, maybe five different screams when they were all the same.

1:10:20 The woman's blood curling scream. That is incredible, you hear. Yeah, have you heard of any sightings in that area in the Bluff Creek. Area, myself. No, not other than the original Patty, But no, I didn't know anyone from that area very hardly at all. So I would just go out there with friends, you know, day hiking or to the music, fast and hanging out and you know, camping. But I didn't know anybody out there personally. I've been out there a few times. I was.

1:11:01 I lived in Arcada and Eureka, which about fifty miles inland off the two ninety nine, just straight there and it's between Reading and Humble Eureka. But other than that, yeah, I think that's the extent of them. Rose that fascinating accounts. I've hardly had any people that I've talked to from Humble County, and these are just fascinating accounts, especially from you don't even hear a lot of them where it's like disappearing cloaking bigfoot. People are afraid to talk about stuff like that, and I just want to thank you, yeah, right, for sharing what you've experienced.

1:11:47 That's really I. Just remembered another one. Okay, it was what I guess people are calling getting zapped hit by their U by the frequency. Absolutely, I was that same bridge where I had gone down that footbridge where I got my I lost my shoe and I fell out the bridge. Whatever. Past that, a few quarter a mile or so, I went out there. I think it was after the shoe episode. I went out there again, and it was either before or after, I can't remember. Not important, but I went past the bridge probably for another twenty minutes walking and I was in this big like field and there was people with quads. I saw a guy riding by on a quad, and there's a big thick timber at ledge there.

1:12:52 It was like a clear cut and then the timber starts up again. Anyways, I was walking over towards that timber, towards the forest where it got real thick. I was probably a hundred feet away from that big hedge where the main entrance to the you know, the forest of real thick timber. And all of a sudden, I started getting really I don't know, I kind of like dizzy and sweaty and gnauseous, and I was like, what the heck's going on here? And I was like I literally got to stop walking, and my hands on my knees and I was like I got to sit down. I was like start feeling sick, and I kept looking into the bushes, into the trees, into the redwoods air, and I was like, it felt like something's in there. It was causing this. I don't know. I just didn't feel too comfortable. So I was like, I don't want to sit down right here next to the ding trees because I had gotten closer. I was about one hundred feet away and I was fifty feet probably twenty thirty feet away from the trees, and I was like, I didn't want to sit down there, but I had to. I was completely done in. I don't know what it was, but I was nauseous, I was dizzy, I felt sick, sweaty.

1:14:14 So I sat down and that's when I saw the quad come by, and I was like, I almost wanted to signal the dude by hold my hand up because. I couldn't get up. I was like, but then again I was like, no, I don't want him to see me. And so I kind of like kind of laid down below the level of the grass and whatnot. And then I was like, man, I better say something because I don't know if I'm going to be able to get up something. I'm not feeling right. I'm feeling like what if I get stuck out here, you know. So anyway, I kept saying, five minutes to myself. In five minutes, I'll make an effort to get up and walk out of here. And five minutes come by, and I was like, I can't do it. Five more minutes, five more minutes. I gotta get up, I gotta get out of here. And I was feeling this pressure from the bushes behind me, and like I felt like I was being watched big time. And finally I started feeling a little bit better, or finally I just got up and said I felt kind of so paranoid from the presence that I was filling in the bushes that I forced myself up and I started walking, and I started feeling better.

1:15:22 Big for a society, who will be right back after these messages. So I got out of there, went back over the bridge back to my car, got in my car and left. And I don't think I told anyone about that one either, which is strange. You know, I've told I've kept a lot of this to myself, and then I have told my family and friends, and I don't know if they believe me. I don't have no reason to lie. I would no way make this stuff up, none of it, you know. And I just feel that people may have just like, all right, we believe you're okay, we believe that you believe it or something.

1:16:20 You know. I don't know if people believe me or not. I'm one hundred percent believer that they're out there. They can they are supernatural, and they can do this, that and the other whatever. I do not doubt anybody's stories. When I hear anything, I don't think anyone would make up. I'm sure there's people that would go out of the way, But for the most part, I believe every one of the stories that I hear. Who's going to make these things up? Who's going to turn around and decide to become the one with a crazy experience and then, you know, have people perceive them as a nuts. I believe that these people aren't going to be making these stories up, no matter how crazy they are, how Outland is or whatever.

1:17:06 Is what I saw. And when I believe what I saw and what I experienced, I know what I saw. I have to be able to have confidence in whatever I hear that other people are going to tell their stories and their truths and it can't be out of it's not something we're meant to understand. If we have that experience and it happens, you have to exhorbit, you have to understand that that that experience is very profound to each one of us. So I don't, like I said, I believe most of the stories that I hear. If people tell I don't not for once do I now once do I, you know, think that that guy's lying, that's outland. It's sure, it's impossible, or you know, from what I've seen, anything's possible.

1:17:54 I'm just I'm just thankful that you were able to come forward and finally, you know, share with a large arge your audience what you've encountered over the years. And you know, it's stories like these that really help listeners that might not be aware of things going on in their area or that just need a little bit of a push to come forward themselves. And thank you so much for calling in. You know what, I didn't mention, but I do think that they the one that I saw the the well they were whistling, the orangutting one, and then I left that area and I went down and had the bridge experience where they grunted at me. I think it was the same mail or the same one that was whistling.

1:18:38 They kind of scared me out of there. They came down when I was observing the one up in the tree. I think it beat me to the bridge down the road. I was driving probably forty fifty miles an hour for like at least five miles, and this thing was there before me. And I have a fillion he was either rush down there or he just you know, did his supernatural appearance there. And I also had some experiences out here in southern California in Lake Arrowhead last year, my son and I we went out and we were hiking out in the mountains and we thought we saw what was a mother with a baby on her back on her shoulders, going from one side to the left to the right of her head. And then this was probably an eighth of a mile away. We were up on a hill and we were watching looking down the hill and it was right next to a tree, and I pointed out, I said, that looks like a bigfoot mother with a baby on her back. And for some crazy reason, I think that they know once you've seen them that I believe that there's something to it when they say you get tagged. I believe that doesn't matter if they're a family union, part of their their immediate family, or if they migrate from Northern California southern California, it doesn't matter.

1:20:08 I think that they know you regardless, or they can just pop up into your life supernaturally out of a tree or whatever, a portal, and they can pop up and reveal themselves and know that you have share a memory and have history with them. For some reason, I have that feeling, and I believe I put a lot of time and thought into this. All the time. I'm always like almost obsessed with wanting to see them again, and I've believe they'll be I will have another chance and another experience to see one I forgot. I had another experience I just remembered. I saw one not far from my house. And that's what makes me think that this one, somehow, through the the knowledge of just through their tribe or something, that this one, even though I had nothing to do with my experience up in Norton, California, I think this one knew I was tagged and therefore was observing me. Now, this was out right by a dry riverbed right over here, close to a nuclear plant Senanofrey, and it's kind of desert area. There's the Camp Pendleton military property. That's where I was at. I was next to a big dried river stream, Sanmonteo Creek, and I

1:21:40 was looking for rocks and agates, crystals, whatever, you know, just kind of checking it out, see if I can't find anything in the stream or the dry riverbed. And I looked over and I saw this what looked to me like a biker with the biggest head I've ever seen, cheekbones probably a foot His face was as big as a frisbee tan, the most tannish person like sunburnt tan I've ever seen. Big giant round cheeks, big hairy beard coming off of his face. Was it had skin, It was totally tan and wrinkled and long hair, kind of like a biker. And I was thinking, is this a human?

1:22:29 And that has got to be the oldest, most leather headed, leather faced person I've ever seen in my life, was my first thought when I saw it. But his head was way too big, His eyes were way too wide apart. The facial features, the cheekbones were probably a foot apart. It was way too wide, way way bigger than any human, and it was squatted down behind some bushes. All I could see was his head. And as soon as I saw it, I went as things watching me, it's watching me, and it saw me first, you know, and I was like startling. I was like, maybe this is some sort of homeless camp and there's the oldest dude you've ever seen living there with the biggest tan is face on the face of this earth. Right, So I don't know if that was one of them or not. I just turned around left. But yeah, that I have to say, my inclination is that yes it was one, and it was a different type or just an older one, sure more sunburnt, much older, because it had no hair on its face, just a big beard and goate and you know, hair coming down its neck. I couldn't see how long his hair was in the back, but it was definitely silver and gray and like I said, very very very tanned.

1:23:57 So I've never seen anybody that tan in my life. That's the only reason I don't think it was a human. Yeah, and and besides the fact that the face was huge, enormous, But other than that, yeah, I still want to go down there. I'm obsessed with just thinking, as I'm always being drawn, I'd got to go out there. I need to go find some one. I need to go. Look, it's like they're calling me because they're like letting me know that they will show themselves. Like that female I saw with the baby on her neck going back and forth. I felt that they were since I saw the pregnant one, they were showing me a baby its mother. I know it sounds nuts.

1:24:41 Grose, I mean, you have some incredible encounters that you have shared tonight. I just want to thank you again for calling in and please keep us in mind. If there's you know, anything in the future that you experience, please feel free to reach out. But yeah, right, thank you. I appreciate your time. Yeah, thank you for having me. I really do appreciate it. All right, Well, I hope that we be in touch at a later time and have a great night, sir. Okay, you too, Thank you. Ye just wanted to take a few minutes to say thank you to you all my listeners for listening to the podcast. Please take a minute to help out the show by subscribing on YouTube, making sure you hit the bell so you don't miss any notifications, and share the episode on YouTube with a friend. Also, if you're listening to us on a podcast, thank you so much, make sure that you're subscribed. Share the show with a friend. Really, it's all about sharing the show wherever you can. If you've had a Bigfoot encounter related to the following or know someone who has, please reach out to me at Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com or pass on my email.

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