Sept. 20, 2024

Face to Face with Bigfoot in Salt Fork!

Join us for an exhilarating conversation with Eric Tipton, a seasoned Bigfoot researcher from Ohio. In this episode, Eric dives deep into his extraordinary experiences in the Salt Fork area, recounting thrilling encounters and groundbreaking research....

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Season 1

Join us for an exhilarating conversation with Eric Tipton, a seasoned Bigfoot researcher from Ohio. In this episode, Eric dives deep into his extraordinary experiences in the Salt Fork area, recounting thrilling encounters and groundbreaking research. Listen as Eric shares how a late-night sighting changed his life, leading to over 14 years of dedicated research and astonishing discoveries. Whether it’s the sightings, the unique structures, or the interactions captured on camera, Eric’s journey offers captivating insights and invaluable advice for aspiring Bigfoot enthusiasts. Don't miss out on this detailed account of what it's like to be face-to-face with the legend!

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Forward slash the Bigfoot Society, and now let's get on

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with the show. All right, Big for Society. I've got

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the privilege of talking to Eric today. Eric is a

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bigfoot researcher from Ohio. He's had some interesting things happen

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in the Salt Fork area. And how's it going tonight?

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Eric? It's going very well, Bud, it's going really well.

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Whether it's starting to calm down a little bit, getting

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out of the eat so yeah, shine, signs of autumn

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are are coming.

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So I'm loving it. Before we get into the Salt

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Fork action, do you mind sharing with us a little

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bit about what got you into this whole wild bigfoot

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adventure to begin with?

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Yeah, it was, you know, it was the classic uh

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seeing seeing Patty on on the Patterson give one, you know,

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on in search of years and years ago. And and

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always always had that in the mind of the possibility,

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you know, even as a young kid, just why not,

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you know, never never closed minded on on on that.

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And then just growing up and being an avid hunter,

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avid tracker, uh, spending a lot of time in the woods,

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and but never never had anything happen. But then it

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was right at the millennium, right around that era of

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two thousand and two thousand and one, I was working

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for a grain handling company here in Ohio and during

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crop season, they're grain drivers. They would run them twenty

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four to seven and I would service those grain drivers.

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So it wasn't anything for me to roll up on

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a farm at you know, two thirty three o'clock in

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the morning. And I had happened to be at a

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seminar though, me and a couple other guys from the

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company way up in northeastern Ohio and Ascribulu, and we

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actually were on our way home from this, I guess

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it was like a conference or whatever it was. And

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we were on a back road and middle of the

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night on and I'm in the back passenger seat and

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I've got my head up against the window and I'm

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kind of just looking at the ditchline like towards the

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front of the car and in front of us, coming

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towards us. Well, we're coming up on it. It basically

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looked like a big brush pile, is what it looked like.

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But as we got closer, it started to take shape.

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there was no mistaking of what this thing was. And

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we never slowed down. But what I saw all good

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was the left side, and it was it was squatting,

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and it had its arms on its on its knees,

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and it's in the ditch, just just looking at us.

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And as we drove by it, I just you know,

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I it passed. Its head was like right eye level

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with me, and as we drove past it, obviously it

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went dark. But I turned and looked out the back

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window and it's completely dark, and I turned back around.

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When I turned back around, the driver is actually rubber

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necked looking back at you. Know, at the window, the

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rear window, and he just looks at me and goes,

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I don't know. And that was it. That was that.

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That was the only time we ever talked about it.

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And the only person I told was mine was my

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dad at the time. And you know, he he kind

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of ran me through the gambit on a lot of stuff,

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you know, of the weather and fog and this and

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that and how was the night, and just kind of

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ran me through a gambit a little bit. And at

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the end of it, he just told me, he said, look,

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he said, you're you know, I believe what you're saying.

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He said, you're the one that's going to have to

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deal with it. And so and back then, I mean,

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if you talked about this, it was so taboo, you know,

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So I just locked it away for many years. And

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now working h in what I do, mechanical WAIGHTSVAC, I

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do large commercial and me and my research partner, we

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kind of came up together in the field. But when

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I came to work at this particular company that he

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was at when I first met him, you kind of

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carpool with each other when you're kind of working out

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of town. So he and I would meet up and

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be out about an hour drive each way to the job.

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I'm back. So you talk, you know, throughout the course

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of the job. And these jobs were anywhere six months

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to year long projects. So we got to know each

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other and found out we had the same lights, dislikes, whatever.

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And finally I was like, you know what, I'm gonna

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tell him. I'm want to see you know. And I

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was ready for the ridicule. I was ready for the haha.

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And I told him and he just looked at him

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and he was like, well, let's let's go find you.

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So that's that's where it all really started. And that

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was roughly fourteen years ago. So and that's that's what

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threw us down this rabbit hole. And we haven't stopped.

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Wow, so you've been you've been going after it ever since?

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Yeah, yeah, not stop out in the field though, actually

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in the field hardcore actually, when we consider research, has

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been roughly fourteen years okay, So yeah, before that, it

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was just kind of once I had that first sighting

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years ago, I started I started reading more, I started

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trying to find information about the subject, but not really

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going out into the field. So it wasn't until after

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he and I talked, and that's when we decided, Okay,

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let's let's do this. And we wanted to We didn't

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want to be like, we didn't want to have like

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any influences or anything like that, or we did. We

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weren't into social media at the time, so we didn't

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we didn't know that there was actually a social media

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platform in this realm, you know, or for this realm.

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And so we were out there just just really just

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pounding and pounding and you know, growing on our own

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and making mistakes and finding out certain things work, certain

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things don't, and just blazing our own trail basically with

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the subject. And for me being being like I said

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in an Avid hundred in a tracker, that was really

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what I was focused on. I needed, I realized, I

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needed to understand what it was that I was looking

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for first and foremost, and then how do I track it.

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I'm not tracking a human, I'm not I'm not tracking

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a non animal. How do I identify what I'm looking at?

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How do I identify a trackway, establishing a travel pattern? All

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these things. So that's what I really dove into, and

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and we just we went everywhere, I mean, not just

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here in Ohio, but surrounding states. And yeah, we just

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kind of just went and and kind of hanged in

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on what each of us wanted to bring to the table.

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And and on my end, that's that's what I wanted

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to figure out. That's that was my passion. I love tracking,

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so that's that's really what I dove into. And we

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finally we finally found like a research area what we

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consider Okay, this is our base, this is this is

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what we're going to dedicate time. And it happened to

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be at Sault for now. You know, Saltfork is kind

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of a mecca here in Ohio. You know, everybody, all

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the enthusiasts, you know, the so called researchers whatever, everybody

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gravitates to Saltfork. Eventually they get there. But we knew

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the areas that a lot of people are going, and

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a lot of people were just traut hiking. They go

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off one hundred yards here, one hundred yards there, and

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that was it. They weren't really getting in deep. And

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Saltfork is just over eighteen thousand acres and it's the

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largest state park in Ohio. And there are some there's

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a few really remote areas in Saltfork, and we knew,

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and I knew that you had to get in deep,

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and you had to get in as far as you could,

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as remote as you could, and the nastiest, nastiest stuff

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to get results. And so that's that's what we did.

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And that took us, that took us about three years

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out in Salt Fork and just really pounded it and

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pounded it and and trying to find that one area,

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that one location in that park that would hold what

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we would believe, you know, stuff showing sign of the subject.

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And we'd actually found it. And it was through interactions,

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you know, we were getting the classic knocks through the days,

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very light vocalizations, not not you know, wroofs, loud woofs,

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but little little, little, tiny chatter sounds we had found

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here that they don't they don't vocalize through the day

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unless you're really on top of them. It's mainly breaking

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twig is, breaking branches. They'll throw a little stuff at you.

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They'll give you a little you know, and a little

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like you. I don't know if you've heard people talk

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about samurai chatter, but you'll get garbled up like very quick,

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just different sounds, little light, subtle sounds that aren't non animal,

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So we knew that this area was where we needed

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to be and so we fast forward. It took at

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that point then really to establish a trackway to establish

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travel pattern. So what we did was we went through

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the park and we would establish a trackway of buy

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people tracks non human and we'd found these and they

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were heading in the same direction throughout the whole the

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whole park. And what we'd found throughout a very long

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process that they were traveling in a counterclockwise circumference of

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the park, and we average a destimation of roughly about

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five to ten mile radius that they were traveling in

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a circle. We honed in, really honed in on one

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spot that was our spot, and we started researching it

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really heavy and documenting things that we were finding, structures

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that we believe weren't Mother Nature and weren't human manipulation.

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We would record the data anything from heights to length

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to with everything that you could measure on these sticks

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that were put together, documenting sticks being taken away, sticks

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being added to them throughout this whole, this whole area

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that we were researching. So and then that that in

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itself is what led me up to my what I

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consider today to be my actual full long visual siding

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of the of the creature.

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I find it fascinating that it took three whole years

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to really to analyze the state park. And I think

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you have to listeners have to realize how big this

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place is. It's massive, it.

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Is, it's it's a it's a really large large area.

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I've been, you know, and I've been in bigger areas obviously,

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but you know, when I when I talk to people,

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especially like the newcomers coming up, you know, don't think

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that this is going to happen over now. You can

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go out and you can be off trailed, you can

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be both whacking in and you you can have something happen. Sure,

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But I'm talking research and and research and collecting data

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and getting the interactions where you know, for a fact

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it's not known animal and it's not human that you're

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dealing with something else. In collecting all this data, it

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takes a long time to do. Uh And and I

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try to stress that to the to the ones that

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are up and coming into the field, that you know,

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take your time, be extremely patient because it's going to

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take a long time.

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Do you have any advice for people that are like

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you know, I got this, I got this place next

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to me. It's a big state park or state forest.

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You know, what are what are some best practices they

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might be able to do if they want to start

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going in there and they don't know where to start to.

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Try to analyze this place for where where the bigfoot

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places might be in it.

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Learn learn the area. Learn so uh with with tracking.

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I've learned topo maps through the years at a young age.

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Learn your topo maps. Learn the terrain, learn the area,

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do your research on the area. Understand the area. Go

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back in history of the area. See what was there

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prior to the settlers. Go as far back as you

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possibly can to who was there. Learn the vegetation, learn

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the wildlife. Learn the water sources. Once again, learn learn

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the elevation. The elevation will be a key factor and

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in in your research as you as you mature into

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your research and you get further into it, you're going

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to find elevation has a lot to do with their

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travel and with seasons. So but that and don't think

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you know human You know, I told her a good

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friend of mine once that I told him, I said,

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get out of your own way, get out of your

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own head, because we were having a conversation Big.

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For society will be right back after these messages.

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He was like, yeah, but I wouldn't. Yeah, but that's

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not what I and that's not how I. And I

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finally I just I looked at it and I said stop.

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I said, stop thinking like a human. Stop, get out

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of your own way. They don't think like we do.

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They're very intelligent creatures, extremely intelligent, but they don't think

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like you and I, and you have to get out

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of your own way your mind, relax yourself, stop thinking

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this isn't how I would do it, and just look

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at the landscape. Read the landscape, walk the landscape. Just

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clear it out of your head. You're not looking for softquatch.

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You're not out there looking for sastquatch. You're looking for evidence.

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You're looking for for data. Is what you're looking for.

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If you have the encounter, that's great, and eventually through

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time and your research, yes, you are wanting to capture

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its in its natural state, and you want to be

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able to record it in its natural state. But just

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starting out and just learning, just relax, take your time,

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clear your mind, stop thinking as if they're going to

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move and do things the way that you would do it,

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because they're not they're not at all. And once you're

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able to do that, and once you're able to get

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in there and just just go, things will open up

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for you. You'll look at you look at the area,

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you look at the woods in a totally different mindset,

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and things will start opening up for you.

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When you look at let's say you're looking at a

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map of an area for you know, the first time,

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are there certain things that are gonna jump out to

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you as potential areas that might be to look into,

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maybe like geographic forms or different bodies of water.

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Yeah, So what you're looking for is you're looking for

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deep caresses in the topo, deep channels, fingers that come

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out to point, some off of bridges that then drop

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down and there's water below, a stream of a cree

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maybe even a river. You're looking for areas like that.

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You're looking for areas that are extremely remote. You're looking

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at like like here in Ohio, I think I are

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our highest elevation, maybe down and I'm pushing it, maybe

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thirteen hundred feet maybe thirteen hundred so not very high

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in elevation, but you want to look at the at

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the highest elevation points as you can look for your fingers,

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look for your points coming off in very dense areas.

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Look for the water source around those areas. Look for

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your deep drop offs, your your big channels, cutting through

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your big cuts, valleys in between ridge wines, and things

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like that. That's what you want to concentrate on, and

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and try to get as remote as you. Try to

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find those areas as remotely as possible.

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Why is it important to find those those ridges and

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those steep drop offs.

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That's where they hold themselves and on the on these ridges,

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that that's where you're going to find. That's where you're

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going to find their natural How to explain this? They don't.

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They don't when when they're in these areas and when

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they're on top, they're going to take the high ground.

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Every single time they're going to take the high ground.

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Most wild animals will take a high ground. It's it's

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just an instinct for the It's a steak for us.

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You know, you want to you want to hold the

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high ground and you want to be able to observe

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everything around you. And I've found this not just like

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I said just here, I mean in the adiron acts

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and the ozarks all up and down the applasia. We

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find these fingers and we find these massive structures within them.

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So that's to me, that's that's why they want, That's

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why you find it there on these high points. They're

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very comfortable in these areas. They don't have to worry about,

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you know, outsiders coming in, they don't have to hide,

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they don't They're just they're relaxed in their natural state

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in these areas.

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You mentioned finding structures. Are there main things you look

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for that would differentiate it being a bigfoot structure from

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a potential bushcraft?

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I do and and I've done a lot of survival

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stuff as well as in building my own structures. Is

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like that, I look at you have to look at

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how much energy that you're putting into it. And if

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you're out there in the wilderness and you're surviving in

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the wilderness, what how much energy you're going to spend

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building something, you know, creating something, how much energy you're

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going to burn when you're eating vegetation, you're you're hunting,

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you know what, what wild game there is? You know,

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it's you have to think of all of these things.

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And then I look at the area itself, like would

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would would somebody travel this far in just to make

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a TP structure? You know, what's the possibility? I look

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at human you know, if there's any has been any

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type of human activity in that area. Will I'm not

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just scouting, you know, non human feedal prints or tracks.

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I'm looking at the natural game, natural wildlife. I'm looking

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for human tracks. I'm looking for everything, and I know

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I can rule out you know those certain well the

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human aspect anyways of no humans being in this area.

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And then you look at a wind, You look at

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you know, mother nature itself. You know, how how is

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in this area? What what's it been like with mother nature?

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What are the storms like? What are the seasons like?

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Are they harsh winters in this area? It's heavy snowload

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in this area? You know, you look, you look at

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all of that stuff. You look at the trees around

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a structure. Do these trees hold these style? Is it

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the same style tree that the structures created out of

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the trees that are around you? Are these branches part

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of those trees? Are these trees large enough to hold

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these branches? You know? Are they are they the size

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that will carry a branch the size that's in the

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structure you look at, you look at all of these

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things to be able to rule out. Now, human manipulation

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to me is the hardest to rule out because I

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do know, I do know certain guys that do travel

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in they push back very deep in, you know, just

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just a camp and and and do survival videos and

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build structures. Well, once again with with tracking, I know

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if if there's been human in this area, I know

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if there's been a man and woman in this area. Uh.

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And when I quickly rule that out, there's there's no

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doubt that it's created by something else. So and then

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you get into then then that follows up with what

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is it and why is it being built? What's what's

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the purpose of it? And that that in itself as

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a whole, a whole another part of research that that

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that took us roughly ten years to figure out. And

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it's just one one certain thing and in certain structures,

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not all structures that we found, but certain structures that

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we have found hold a navigational data to it. So

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we we know now for a fact because once once

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once we found it, actually my partner once he found

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it and and brought it to me and said, you know,

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we need to take a look at this. We found

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that certain structures held navigation to them. So we took

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it out of our area and we took it to

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three different states, two of which the Ozarks and in Georgia,

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I believe what was the second state unknown locations to

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both of us, never been there before, studied the mask,

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did our thing went actually was able to find a

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trackway in both states, was able to find what we

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believed and knew to be structures created by, you know,

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something other than the human or mother nature. We found

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certain structures then that held these navigational points and followed

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it strictly, strictly on on just what the structures were

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telling us, and we were able to follow from from

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one structure to another structure. We were able to turn,

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We were able to read this oft your turn and

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navigate a different direction to another structure. And once we

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did that, we came back here. And that's when my

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partners told me. He was like, dude, we got we

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have to bring people in and we have to show

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them that we can do this. And at the time,

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I was a very closed chest with our research. I

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mean I was I was I was lock and key

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with with our with our research, and finally we decided, okay,

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let's let's do this. So we contacted a few guys

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that we really trusted and we brought them up and

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they spent four days with us and we went out

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we want What we wanted to do was show them

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you can establish the trackway, you can establish travel pattern,

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you can get in front of them prior to them

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coming through, and you can document it as they come

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through the area. And we did it for three days

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out in the books and had interaction and actually gathered

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some pretty muh pretty amazing vocalization. Uh no, no more

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than thirty yards from our camp up above us on

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the ridge. So it was it was big for for

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my partner on. It was huge because now we we

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had we had individuals that we showed them you could

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do it, and it happened and we got in front

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of them and they came through on us. So it

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was looked huge breakthrough for our research.

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That is that is incredible? Was that documented in any way?

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Yes?

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Oh yeah, yeah, set available for the public in any way.

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Yes, it is. It's actually on the saw Us Beast.

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It's a four part series okay on saw Yeah, so

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people if if they want to see it, you gotta,

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you gotta go back. I think it was now it's

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been maybe six years ago, five years ago something like

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that when we did it, So you gotta, you gotta

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scroll through. But yeah, it's it's on sawdust piece. So

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it's a it's a four part.

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It sounds like it's it's very worth taking the time

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to go through that. If if what you're you're talking

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about is all in that series, that's that's some good

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information for people to know. So yeah, yeah, definitely people

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should be checking that out. And that all happened within

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Salt Fork. You said, yes, yeah, it's just that is

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just so so wild. It's hard for me to wrap

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my around. But I know it's a huge place. It's

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totally totally possible. Do you mind if we go into

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talking about the time in Salt Fork when you had

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that very intense visual that you were referencing to before.

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Sure, Yeah, it's so this was twenty and fifteen. We

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went out to our area. Now, what made this day

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different than any other day? Normally we would drive out,

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we'd get out of the truck, hit the ridge, go in,

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do our thing, come back out, get in the truck

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and leave. This particular weekend, we had my wife and

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my partner's girlfriend at the time with us when we

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were camping up at the campground.

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Big for Society, who will be right back after these messages.

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So they actually dropped us off that that morning and

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we go in that day we get which is also

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documented and this would be on my partner's page Facebook

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page House of emich And you have to go once

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again scroll way back. But so we're getting I had

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a I had a low can speaker Bluetooth can speaker,

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and I'm a huge, huge fan of Jane Goodall and

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a lot of my research is based off of how

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Jane does her stuff and so but what I did

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was I put low line silver back Gorilla sounds. I

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downloaded them on my phone and one of them was

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an aggression call, basically like a challenge call. And we're

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going through we're making our way back into where we

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actually do our research and what we're already getting, like

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things tassed, we're getting you know, things snapping, you know,

455
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on the on the ridge beside us. And so I

456
00:32:32.640 --> 00:32:35.759
just stopped. We stopped for a second and I told

457
00:32:36.279 --> 00:32:41.000
my partner, I said, I'm gonna play this snap and

458
00:32:41.119 --> 00:32:47.960
I blast this, and immediately you get this crack, crack, crack, snap.

459
00:32:48.680 --> 00:32:51.920
And then across from us, on the ridge, across from us,

460
00:32:52.039 --> 00:32:56.000
you see this I don't know, five six foot long

461
00:32:56.160 --> 00:33:01.799
by maybe six to eight inches round, either either a

462
00:33:01.880 --> 00:33:06.440
trunk of a tree or a huge, huge, huge branch

463
00:33:06.519 --> 00:33:11.960
of a tree come hurling off off the ridge towards us.

464
00:33:12.359 --> 00:33:16.960
And so we're like, okay, all right, so we we

465
00:33:16.960 --> 00:33:20.319
we keep going back in and we we do our stuff.

466
00:33:21.599 --> 00:33:26.319
We come as we're coming back out, we're being parallel

467
00:33:26.720 --> 00:33:30.079
on top of the ridge, and we would we would,

468
00:33:30.240 --> 00:33:35.240
you know, just we don't. We don't act on sounds.

469
00:33:35.240 --> 00:33:40.720
We don't. We've trained ourselves early on. Don't turn in

470
00:33:40.839 --> 00:33:46.480
what directly would you hear? Don't acknowledge it at first,

471
00:33:46.519 --> 00:33:49.880
just keep doing your thing, just to try to ignore

472
00:33:49.920 --> 00:33:53.079
it as much as you can't. Be consisus of it

473
00:33:53.200 --> 00:33:57.000
being there, but just act like it's no big deal.

474
00:33:58.039 --> 00:34:02.240
So we're coming back out. We're being parallel from the

475
00:34:02.319 --> 00:34:05.880
top of the ridge. So we drop down onto the

476
00:34:06.000 --> 00:34:09.119
road and once again, instead of getting in the truck

477
00:34:09.159 --> 00:34:12.800
and leaving, we walk through the gravel road up to

478
00:34:13.239 --> 00:34:19.960
a bridge. Now in this area. It's where we research

479
00:34:21.480 --> 00:34:26.880
on these three ridges. It's surrounded the I guess it'd

480
00:34:26.920 --> 00:34:31.719
be like the east side of it is surrounded with marshland.

481
00:34:31.920 --> 00:34:34.800
But what cuts through this marsh is like a channel.

482
00:34:36.079 --> 00:34:38.960
So we walk up the road to this bridge where

483
00:34:39.000 --> 00:34:42.960
this channel goes out into the marsh. We've got all

484
00:34:43.000 --> 00:34:46.119
of our gears stripped off. My partner is sitting on

485
00:34:46.119 --> 00:34:48.800
the guard rail with his back to the marsh, and

486
00:34:48.840 --> 00:34:53.159
he's facing me and I'm facing him, and we're just talking,

487
00:34:53.239 --> 00:34:57.440
waiting for the girls to show up. And as we're talking,

488
00:34:57.519 --> 00:35:01.639
I just glance up. When I glance up, I see

489
00:35:01.639 --> 00:35:05.519
this huge branch or this tree pushed straight up in

490
00:35:05.559 --> 00:35:09.039
the air, and I see this farm, and then this

491
00:35:09.079 --> 00:35:13.920
thing steps out and he comes up full body, and

492
00:35:14.039 --> 00:35:17.800
we just locked eyes and we're just staring at each other.

493
00:35:17.920 --> 00:35:23.480
Now at this point, I freeze my mind just I

494
00:35:23.880 --> 00:35:29.800
go into a total lock and I can't do anything.

495
00:35:30.119 --> 00:35:32.400
I can't do nothing but stare at this thing. I mean,

496
00:35:32.440 --> 00:35:37.000
we're we're locked in eye to eye and he flares

497
00:35:37.079 --> 00:35:41.199
up and he flares out, his head goes back, his

498
00:35:41.280 --> 00:35:45.559
eyes go wide. Never showed any type of aggression, nothing

499
00:35:45.679 --> 00:35:48.360
like that, and I've pulled people in the past. He

500
00:35:48.559 --> 00:35:54.199
actually had a look of like I just screwed up, Like,

501
00:35:54.400 --> 00:35:58.599
oh crap, they're they're They're not supposed to be here.

502
00:35:59.559 --> 00:36:03.760
He had just this dumbfounded look on his face. And

503
00:36:04.960 --> 00:36:08.039
we stood there stairs at each other for a few seconds.

504
00:36:08.880 --> 00:36:11.639
His body turned to the right, his head stayed with me.

505
00:36:12.360 --> 00:36:14.679
He went to take a step, and his head turned

506
00:36:14.719 --> 00:36:19.079
and he stepped. He stepped down into the channel and disappeared.

507
00:36:20.039 --> 00:36:23.679
Now at this point, my partner's still talking. He has

508
00:36:23.800 --> 00:36:26.480
no clue what's going on. And as soon as this

509
00:36:26.559 --> 00:36:30.679
thing disappeared, I take off running down the road. I'm

510
00:36:30.679 --> 00:36:32.840
wanted to. I wanted to get another vantage point of

511
00:36:32.880 --> 00:36:35.480
the same. So I just take off running, and I

512
00:36:35.480 --> 00:36:38.239
can hear my partner behind me, and I could hear

513
00:36:38.320 --> 00:36:41.119
him like grabbing gear and stuff. And he doesn't All

514
00:36:41.159 --> 00:36:44.000
he knows is were running. That's all. That's all he knows.

515
00:36:44.719 --> 00:36:48.559
So I stepped into the marsh. And when I I'm

516
00:36:48.639 --> 00:36:51.800
six one. And when I stepped into the marsh, the

517
00:36:52.320 --> 00:36:55.599
top of the weeds came up to my chest. And

518
00:36:55.639 --> 00:36:59.719
when I saw him was from the waist up so

519
00:37:00.880 --> 00:37:09.039
very large. I go through. I go, I mean and

520
00:37:09.039 --> 00:37:12.000
and and another way I described it to to people,

521
00:37:13.039 --> 00:37:19.480
is it that at that moment, you take if you

522
00:37:19.639 --> 00:37:23.199
was to take every human emotion that you possibly could,

523
00:37:23.719 --> 00:37:26.679
and you ball it up as like as tight as

524
00:37:26.719 --> 00:37:32.360
an atom, and it explodes. And that's that's the feeling

525
00:37:32.440 --> 00:37:36.480
I felt. I could have. I could have. I could

526
00:37:36.519 --> 00:37:39.920
have dropped to the ground and literally just balled like

527
00:37:39.960 --> 00:37:46.559
a baby. And it was but it was so much.

528
00:37:47.079 --> 00:37:51.079
It was so much coming back. It was from years

529
00:37:51.119 --> 00:37:54.880
ago seeing what I saw, all the years of my

530
00:37:55.039 --> 00:37:58.320
partner and I and all the research that we have done,

531
00:37:58.480 --> 00:38:02.280
everywhere we had been, and I just came face to

532
00:38:02.320 --> 00:38:07.039
face with it and I saw it brought the line

533
00:38:08.239 --> 00:38:13.480
there he is, and it's real. Everything that I knew, everything,

534
00:38:14.079 --> 00:38:18.000
everything that all the data I was collecting, everything that

535
00:38:18.079 --> 00:38:20.679
I was tracking where I knew in my heart and

536
00:38:21.079 --> 00:38:24.920
I knew one hundred percent it was non human, you know,

537
00:38:26.519 --> 00:38:28.960
I knew for a fact it was something other than

538
00:38:29.079 --> 00:38:32.360
that I was tracking all these things, and there it

539
00:38:32.519 --> 00:38:37.000
was in front of me, and it was just I

540
00:38:37.760 --> 00:38:41.039
went through a meltdown process, is what I did. And

541
00:38:42.559 --> 00:38:46.000
people you hear so many people, you know, why didn't

542
00:38:46.039 --> 00:38:48.280
you take a picture of why didn't you do this?

543
00:38:48.400 --> 00:38:51.599
Why didn't you? And you have to be in the moment.

544
00:38:52.360 --> 00:38:56.079
You have to just be in the moment. You will

545
00:38:56.280 --> 00:39:01.880
you will go through a meltdown process. We're taught since

546
00:39:01.960 --> 00:39:05.239
we're as little as you can, as far back as

547
00:39:05.280 --> 00:39:09.719
you can you can remember, you're taught to identify. You're

548
00:39:09.760 --> 00:39:13.280
taught that this that this is a tree, this is grass,

549
00:39:13.320 --> 00:39:15.880
this is this, this is You're taught all of this.

550
00:39:16.719 --> 00:39:20.039
So when you see something like this, your mind goes

551
00:39:20.079 --> 00:39:24.800
through the smeltdown process, and it's trying to collect everything

552
00:39:24.840 --> 00:39:28.480
that possibly can to make sense of what it is

553
00:39:28.480 --> 00:39:32.800
that you're looking at. And so it's grabbing every detail

554
00:39:32.880 --> 00:39:36.039
that it possibly can is Your mind is rolling out

555
00:39:36.199 --> 00:39:41.360
everything so quickly to then just bam, it is what

556
00:39:41.400 --> 00:39:44.519
it is and it's a it's a sasquash and they

557
00:39:44.599 --> 00:39:49.239
do exist and yeah, so and from there, man, it

558
00:39:49.480 --> 00:39:54.239
just I mean, it's set a fire in me and

559
00:39:54.239 --> 00:39:58.079
and has not has not went out since.

560
00:40:01.480 --> 00:40:04.800
That's that's incredible. Has has what you've seen that day

561
00:40:06.079 --> 00:40:11.440
or has anything ever come close to looking like what

562
00:40:11.519 --> 00:40:14.440
you saw yourself that day? Have you ever seen anything else,

563
00:40:15.559 --> 00:40:17.960
artist representation, anything like that?

564
00:40:19.320 --> 00:40:26.559
One? Yeah? One? And and I had a professional sketch artist,

565
00:40:27.880 --> 00:40:34.039
sketch mind. And when she sent it to me, I cried.

566
00:40:34.639 --> 00:40:39.599
I I couldn't hold back to the emotion because she

567
00:40:39.880 --> 00:40:43.239
was so in the and it was over the phone.

568
00:40:43.440 --> 00:40:46.119
It was she would send me little things like working

569
00:40:46.159 --> 00:40:49.239
on the nose, working on the mouth, working on the forehead,

570
00:40:49.400 --> 00:40:51.800
just certain things, and we hone in and hone in

571
00:40:51.840 --> 00:40:55.039
and hone in. And when she finally sent it to me,

572
00:40:56.159 --> 00:40:59.880
I just I broke in. And and that would say.

573
00:41:02.000 --> 00:41:05.280
And then one one other I was talking to a

574
00:41:05.320 --> 00:41:11.159
guy and he sent me what he had seen. Oh,

575
00:41:11.199 --> 00:41:15.400
and he had actually had a sketch artist do his

576
00:41:15.599 --> 00:41:22.199
years and years ago. And and what was odd those minds?

577
00:41:22.440 --> 00:41:25.000
She did mind in black and white, there's no color

578
00:41:25.039 --> 00:41:28.159
to it. And but when he sent me his what

579
00:41:28.320 --> 00:41:34.880
I saw was a reddish brown, very leathered skin, dark complexed.

580
00:41:36.039 --> 00:41:41.960
I I put it as like a Middle Eastern type skin,

581
00:41:44.000 --> 00:41:51.199
as in like top tight, no facial hair except on

582
00:41:51.280 --> 00:41:56.360
the sides, but nothing in the front, no hair on

583
00:41:56.440 --> 00:42:03.840
his on his chest on and very broad shouldered. But

584
00:42:04.000 --> 00:42:07.480
when he sent me his picture, I was like, oh

585
00:42:07.519 --> 00:42:11.719
my god, and this is coming from Ohio and his

586
00:42:12.159 --> 00:42:16.920
was I want to say, maybe Texas or somewhere somewhere

587
00:42:16.920 --> 00:42:20.880
out in that area, and you hold them both side

588
00:42:20.920 --> 00:42:22.760
by side and look at him and look at the

589
00:42:22.920 --> 00:42:25.599
characteristics of both of them, and I was like, oh

590
00:42:25.639 --> 00:42:29.760
my god, you know, oh my god, this this is

591
00:42:29.840 --> 00:42:36.440
this is a species. This this is yeah, we're looking

592
00:42:36.480 --> 00:42:37.599
at a species. Here.

593
00:42:38.000 --> 00:42:40.280
Is that sketch drawing that you had done? Is that

594
00:42:40.360 --> 00:42:42.559
available to see anywhere? Is that kind of a private

595
00:42:42.599 --> 00:42:44.360
collection thing for you?

596
00:42:44.360 --> 00:42:46.639
No, No, it's it's it's out there on on my

597
00:42:47.360 --> 00:42:50.679
on my page, on my Facebook page.

598
00:42:50.920 --> 00:42:59.000
Yeah, gotcha. Seeing what you saw that day, you know,

599
00:42:59.079 --> 00:43:02.599
dead on you got a great look at it. Did

600
00:43:02.639 --> 00:43:07.360
that affect what you had thought about what bigfoot was

601
00:43:08.480 --> 00:43:10.679
before then? Or did it just.

602
00:43:10.920 --> 00:43:19.000
Mostly yeah, definitely, Okay, prior to it it was it was.

603
00:43:19.519 --> 00:43:24.920
It was a North American Grade eight one hundred percent.

604
00:43:25.360 --> 00:43:29.000
Couldn't couldn't change my mind. And when I saw it

605
00:43:29.199 --> 00:43:32.760
and I saw the human characteristics in it, there was

606
00:43:32.840 --> 00:43:37.199
there was There was no mistake in that at that

607
00:43:37.320 --> 00:43:42.199
point for me. Anyways, My my personal opinion is somewhere

608
00:43:42.599 --> 00:43:48.159
somewhere on on the tree we we we share DNA,

609
00:43:49.159 --> 00:43:51.840
there was just there was too much in the space

610
00:43:52.719 --> 00:44:01.599
that that just there's human there's there's there's there's human characteristics,

611
00:44:02.320 --> 00:44:07.239
his eyes, the way he looked at me, just everything,

612
00:44:08.360 --> 00:44:12.280
the emotion. I mean that that he showed with with

613
00:44:12.360 --> 00:44:17.199
the like oh Dan, you know, like I just screwed up.

614
00:44:17.280 --> 00:44:21.440
Just there's too much there. And that's yeah, I changed

615
00:44:21.440 --> 00:44:23.519
my mindset on that very quickly.

616
00:44:26.559 --> 00:44:30.079
That is, I mean that, that's extremely interesting going off

617
00:44:30.079 --> 00:44:32.400
of that. You know, you hear all these stories about

618
00:44:33.639 --> 00:44:41.000
hunters or you know, people that they have the ability

619
00:44:41.199 --> 00:44:45.079
to try to take a shot, but they just can't

620
00:44:45.119 --> 00:44:48.639
because the way that it looks, it's just they can't

621
00:44:48.679 --> 00:44:51.679
tell exactly you know, what it is.

622
00:44:51.719 --> 00:44:57.880
It's just yeah, there's there's there's absolutely no way and

623
00:44:59.039 --> 00:45:04.800
certain areas I carried my sidearm with me, but it's

624
00:45:04.920 --> 00:45:08.880
it's honestly, it's for cat and it's for bear, and

625
00:45:08.920 --> 00:45:12.760
it's a and even then it's just a detern. It's

626
00:45:12.760 --> 00:45:15.599
the sound. I'm using it for the sound to get

627
00:45:15.639 --> 00:45:22.639
them backing off of me. I could not even if

628
00:45:22.679 --> 00:45:27.400
it was even if it was a situation where it

629
00:45:27.599 --> 00:45:33.760
was life threatening. I honestly, I don't know. I don't

630
00:45:33.800 --> 00:45:37.039
know if I could pull the trigger. I say that,

631
00:45:37.199 --> 00:45:40.639
I mean, I don't know I've never been that close

632
00:45:40.719 --> 00:45:45.760
quarters with one, but right now, I mean, thinking of

633
00:45:45.800 --> 00:45:48.320
a situation like that, I don't I still don't know

634
00:45:48.360 --> 00:45:50.559
if I could do it. I honestly don't know if

635
00:45:50.559 --> 00:45:53.800
I could, you know, put one down. So and I

636
00:45:53.920 --> 00:45:57.079
and I've said that many times that you know, you

637
00:45:57.159 --> 00:45:59.480
don't have to drag a body out of the woods

638
00:46:00.559 --> 00:46:04.239
to prove the existence. You don't have to do it,

639
00:46:04.679 --> 00:46:07.480
you know, And what what's it going to do? Anyways,

640
00:46:08.039 --> 00:46:10.440
They're gonna throw it on the slab, they're gonna dissect it,

641
00:46:10.440 --> 00:46:12.519
and they're going to tell you what it eats. It

642
00:46:12.559 --> 00:46:15.760
doesn't tell you anything about the creature. It doesn't tell

643
00:46:15.800 --> 00:46:20.000
you anything about them. So for me, you don't have

644
00:46:20.079 --> 00:46:21.239
to drag a body.

645
00:46:20.960 --> 00:46:25.079
Out big for society will be right back after these messages.

646
00:46:41.239 --> 00:46:44.559
You know, you'll learn more being out there and documenting

647
00:46:44.599 --> 00:46:47.800
them and filming them in their natural environment of what

648
00:46:47.840 --> 00:46:50.960
they do, versus dragging one outwards.

649
00:46:51.440 --> 00:46:53.440
Like Jane Goodall would have done.

650
00:46:55.039 --> 00:46:55.519
Exactly.

651
00:46:55.639 --> 00:46:59.239
Are you thinking that it would just take really documented

652
00:46:59.480 --> 00:47:03.920
notes to prove it or perhaps even like video evidence

653
00:47:04.119 --> 00:47:04.360
a lot.

654
00:47:05.280 --> 00:47:09.400
Yeah, yeah, it would take it would take both. It

655
00:47:09.440 --> 00:47:13.280
would most definitely take both. But I believe that now

656
00:47:13.559 --> 00:47:18.000
where I am and what I can do, what I've

657
00:47:18.039 --> 00:47:22.199
shown people I can do. I know, I know I

658
00:47:22.239 --> 00:47:26.679
can do it. You know it takes time. Uh, it

659
00:47:26.760 --> 00:47:31.119
takes a very long time. I have I have, you know,

660
00:47:31.239 --> 00:47:36.599
a collection I don't put I've put very little out

661
00:47:36.719 --> 00:47:42.360
on social media. If it's not if you have to,

662
00:47:42.679 --> 00:47:45.719
if you have to go into great detail and depth

663
00:47:45.920 --> 00:47:48.280
of what somebody's looking at when you put a video

664
00:47:48.400 --> 00:47:51.159
out there or even a picture, it's not worth putting

665
00:47:51.199 --> 00:47:55.559
the bottom line, you know, so, and and me and

666
00:47:55.599 --> 00:48:00.840
my partner holding very fast on you know so, yeah,

667
00:48:00.960 --> 00:48:06.360
and and we have peers, certain individuals that we bounce

668
00:48:06.559 --> 00:48:10.079
stuff off of each other. We share certain things with

669
00:48:10.199 --> 00:48:14.039
each other, and if they say no, then it's then

670
00:48:14.079 --> 00:48:17.360
it's no, it's not good enough. And it takes a

671
00:48:17.360 --> 00:48:21.280
lot of dedication. Though people need to understand it takes

672
00:48:21.320 --> 00:48:23.320
a lot of a lot of dedication.

673
00:48:24.679 --> 00:48:28.320
Exactly. It's not you know, you weren't just doing like

674
00:48:28.400 --> 00:48:30.679
you weren't just out for a weekend like this has

675
00:48:30.760 --> 00:48:35.119
been fourteen plus years leading up to this point, which

676
00:48:35.960 --> 00:48:39.239
I mean some people listening to this that's more than

677
00:48:39.800 --> 00:48:44.199
half their life or almost full life. It could be

678
00:48:44.559 --> 00:48:48.719
if I think about it, I'm sure there's some people

679
00:48:48.760 --> 00:48:53.360
that are thinking, oh, Lowland Silverback guerrilla aggression call, that's

680
00:48:53.400 --> 00:48:58.320
the key. So do you do you recommend people bust

681
00:48:58.360 --> 00:49:01.480
that out or is that kind of a uh? I

682
00:49:01.519 --> 00:49:04.480
did it, but I wouldn't really recommend it for certain reasons.

683
00:49:04.679 --> 00:49:11.840
Deal. Yeah, understand, get get familiar with what what it is.

684
00:49:12.039 --> 00:49:14.599
Understand what it is that you're doing out there, first

685
00:49:14.599 --> 00:49:20.920
and foremost, put some time under your belt. Get comfortable

686
00:49:20.920 --> 00:49:23.639
in an area if you know for a fact that

687
00:49:23.800 --> 00:49:27.079
you are dealing with this subject out in the field,

688
00:49:29.119 --> 00:49:32.559
put some pus, some time under your belt. Understand. They

689
00:49:32.599 --> 00:49:35.079
need to understand that, you know, in the in the

690
00:49:35.360 --> 00:49:40.000
in the three years to identify and and to get

691
00:49:40.039 --> 00:49:43.639
to that point of okay, this is our research area.

692
00:49:43.800 --> 00:49:46.840
This is how far we have to go. They need

693
00:49:46.960 --> 00:49:51.360
people need to understand that in that three years, we

694
00:49:51.400 --> 00:49:54.519
would only be able to go in so far, and

695
00:49:54.599 --> 00:49:58.239
we would get sounds, and we would leave, and we

696
00:49:58.280 --> 00:50:01.519
would come back, get sounds and leave and come back

697
00:50:01.679 --> 00:50:04.760
over and over, and then eventually we'd be able to

698
00:50:04.800 --> 00:50:07.920
go a little farther in and and and get a

699
00:50:08.000 --> 00:50:11.880
little more interaction and leave and come back and leave,

700
00:50:12.119 --> 00:50:14.599
over and over and over and over again, and then

701
00:50:14.599 --> 00:50:17.119
a little farther and a little farther back and forth,

702
00:50:17.199 --> 00:50:21.559
back and forth. That took every bit of three years

703
00:50:22.199 --> 00:50:25.440
of gaining that what we think is trust with them.

704
00:50:26.280 --> 00:50:31.559
Now even with that, with that said, now I mean

705
00:50:31.599 --> 00:50:35.360
we're we're into it years now going to this area

706
00:50:35.519 --> 00:50:40.559
and researching this area. One particular day, we get triangulated.

707
00:50:41.400 --> 00:50:43.559
One's behind us, one's on the ridge to the right,

708
00:50:43.679 --> 00:50:47.280
ones on the ridge to left. And I'm talking aggression.

709
00:50:48.039 --> 00:50:53.480
I'm talking pounding and trees bashing. You can hear that.

710
00:50:54.039 --> 00:50:59.159
You can hear whatever size branches that they're smacking up

711
00:50:59.199 --> 00:51:03.639
against a tree, you can hear it splintering from all

712
00:51:03.679 --> 00:51:06.800
three of them. And they were pushing us. And when

713
00:51:06.800 --> 00:51:10.519
they would push us, they would they would maneuver themselves.

714
00:51:10.519 --> 00:51:13.360
The one on the right would push farther ahead of us,

715
00:51:13.679 --> 00:51:15.480
the one on the on the on the left, it

716
00:51:15.519 --> 00:51:19.440
would drop down elevation a little bit, but stay right

717
00:51:19.519 --> 00:51:22.239
with us. The one in the back would push forward

718
00:51:22.239 --> 00:51:25.639
a little more. Once we started to move, it would

719
00:51:25.760 --> 00:51:29.119
it would lighten up, the knox would lighten up, the sounds,

720
00:51:29.199 --> 00:51:32.800
the grass would lighten up. As soon as we would stop.

721
00:51:33.239 --> 00:51:37.079
It would get in. It would be total aggression again,

722
00:51:37.599 --> 00:51:40.800
and and they would move. They would the one behind

723
00:51:40.880 --> 00:51:42.760
us would flank to the right, or flank to the

724
00:51:42.880 --> 00:51:45.199
left a little bit. The one on the left would

725
00:51:45.239 --> 00:51:47.480
go back up elevation, the one on the right would

726
00:51:47.519 --> 00:51:51.239
drop elevation. And they did this for a mile and

727
00:51:51.320 --> 00:51:55.079
a half of pushing us out. And this was years

728
00:51:55.119 --> 00:51:59.599
after we had already established with them, and this one

729
00:51:59.639 --> 00:52:04.639
fatioicular time, it was no, no, no, oh no so

730
00:52:05.519 --> 00:52:08.320
and then it even got to the point to where

731
00:52:09.400 --> 00:52:12.519
we had to make a decision because the way that

732
00:52:12.599 --> 00:52:15.199
they were pushing us, you were getting ready to walk

733
00:52:15.239 --> 00:52:19.360
into a huge growth of thickets and I'm talking eight

734
00:52:19.440 --> 00:52:23.320
to eight feet tall, just nasty, gnarly stuff. And I

735
00:52:23.440 --> 00:52:26.599
told my partner, I wasay, absolutely not. I'm not going

736
00:52:26.639 --> 00:52:29.039
in there. I Am not going to lose line of sight.

737
00:52:29.719 --> 00:52:32.920
I'm not going to do it. So our option, our

738
00:52:32.960 --> 00:52:35.760
only option, was to make a hard left to drop

739
00:52:35.880 --> 00:52:38.280
down into the bottom and then go back up to

740
00:52:38.360 --> 00:52:41.840
the ridge on the left where one is. So as

741
00:52:41.880 --> 00:52:45.159
we're standing there talking, all of this stuff is happening,

742
00:52:45.239 --> 00:52:48.559
and you can hear them maneuvering themselves around us, all

743
00:52:48.599 --> 00:52:52.920
around us, and finally we dropped down and go back up.

744
00:52:52.960 --> 00:52:55.599
But right as soon as we made the hard left

745
00:52:55.639 --> 00:52:58.960
to drop down in the thickets in front of us,

746
00:52:59.440 --> 00:53:06.039
we get the lowest grow vibrating sound I've ever heard

747
00:53:06.039 --> 00:53:09.920
in my life of just pure evil, just just nasty,

748
00:53:11.000 --> 00:53:15.480
and still to this day, every now and then we'll

749
00:53:15.480 --> 00:53:18.199
bring that up with each other and we'll talk about

750
00:53:18.239 --> 00:53:23.679
a little more like what was the intent there were

751
00:53:23.679 --> 00:53:28.119
they Were they just pushing us and steering us out

752
00:53:28.440 --> 00:53:31.840
completely out or were they actually trying to get us

753
00:53:31.840 --> 00:53:34.039
to go in there? And if they were trying to

754
00:53:34.039 --> 00:53:36.000
get us to go in there, what was in there?

755
00:53:36.159 --> 00:53:39.840
What would the outcome have been? You know, we will

756
00:53:39.880 --> 00:53:44.519
never know, but you know, but it was a learning

757
00:53:44.559 --> 00:53:49.119
experience for me as a tracker. It was a learning experience.

758
00:53:49.360 --> 00:53:52.559
It would they they they told me. They showed me

759
00:53:53.119 --> 00:53:58.079
how they maneuver, what they do, their instincts of of

760
00:53:58.079 --> 00:54:01.679
of hunting if they were to be hunting. They showed

761
00:54:01.719 --> 00:54:04.840
me how they how they moved as a team as

762
00:54:04.880 --> 00:54:08.320
a unit from what they do. So these are things

763
00:54:08.320 --> 00:54:11.039
that that my partner and I in our research, this

764
00:54:11.119 --> 00:54:14.000
is how our minds work, and things like this occur.

765
00:54:14.159 --> 00:54:17.239
We're collecting so much. It's not just oh wow, I

766
00:54:17.280 --> 00:54:20.000
can't believe that happened. That's great. Uh No, we look

767
00:54:20.039 --> 00:54:23.519
at it as, Okay, what do we learn? What what

768
00:54:23.760 --> 00:54:26.239
just took place? What what did we learn about them

769
00:54:26.800 --> 00:54:30.360
in this particular time? You know. So it gave us

770
00:54:30.400 --> 00:54:32.760
a lot, you know, it gave us a lot of

771
00:54:32.960 --> 00:54:35.760
a lot of data on on the end of that day.

772
00:54:36.599 --> 00:54:39.719
It's a it's a really interesting approach to it. Are

773
00:54:39.760 --> 00:54:44.199
you Are you and your partner documenting this and in

774
00:54:44.280 --> 00:54:44.639
any way?

775
00:54:45.880 --> 00:54:50.079
Oh yeah, yeah. So we constantly record, We're constantly dropped

776
00:54:50.079 --> 00:54:57.119
pinning our location on my on my garment, I'm downloading

777
00:54:57.119 --> 00:55:01.360
my tracks as we go, things like that. We've so

778
00:55:02.039 --> 00:55:05.440
two years ago, my partner went back through everything that

779
00:55:05.480 --> 00:55:08.559
we did, all the drop pins that we did, all

780
00:55:08.599 --> 00:55:12.199
the all the off the garments, all the all the

781
00:55:12.239 --> 00:55:15.519
travel that we've done, and this was like two years ago,

782
00:55:16.000 --> 00:55:19.880
and he had he had estimated that we had traveled

783
00:55:20.360 --> 00:55:25.119
five thousand miles from from the point of starting our

784
00:55:25.159 --> 00:55:30.079
research and play and recording you know, our research up

785
00:55:30.119 --> 00:55:33.280
to about two years ago. We had we had traveled

786
00:55:33.360 --> 00:55:36.239
five thousand miles center research. To go back to the

787
00:55:36.320 --> 00:55:39.320
original question, I mean I would not. I would not

788
00:55:39.519 --> 00:55:45.199
recommend any type of, you know, anything to to provoke

789
00:55:45.320 --> 00:55:51.760
them in any way. Give them the respect and and

790
00:55:52.039 --> 00:55:57.920
honor that from them, and understand, you know what what

791
00:55:58.000 --> 00:56:01.159
they're wanting. You know when they when they give you

792
00:56:01.199 --> 00:56:05.480
a chatter, and respect that there's always there's always the

793
00:56:05.559 --> 00:56:09.079
next time, There's always the next day, there's always the

794
00:56:09.159 --> 00:56:12.360
next weekend, leave the area, respect it.

795
00:56:14.639 --> 00:56:17.239
That makes that makes perfect sense for sure. Do you

796
00:56:17.280 --> 00:56:19.719
feel like there's ever a time where you've had any

797
00:56:19.719 --> 00:56:24.400
type of communication with them?

798
00:56:25.199 --> 00:56:35.199
No, I don't. I don't know. I so it's been

799
00:56:36.679 --> 00:56:43.639
two years now. It was I believe May of twenty two.

800
00:56:47.599 --> 00:56:50.880
I wanted to go out and I wanted to do

801
00:56:51.000 --> 00:56:56.679
a night time in this particular area. I wanted to

802
00:56:56.719 --> 00:57:03.760
go completely dark, and I wanted to document them through

803
00:57:04.000 --> 00:57:09.639
IR and error thermal of where they would travel from.

804
00:57:10.000 --> 00:57:15.199
So prior to getting dark, I get my blind set up.

805
00:57:16.039 --> 00:57:19.440
My partner is. I'm where I'm set up. I got

806
00:57:19.440 --> 00:57:21.679
my back against the tree. I got my blind in

807
00:57:21.719 --> 00:57:25.800
front of me. I'm facing like looking up towards the

808
00:57:25.840 --> 00:57:28.639
top of the ridge. My partner is to my right

809
00:57:29.119 --> 00:57:34.000
about five o'clock to my right, about twenty yards down

810
00:57:34.079 --> 00:57:37.960
from me. So, right before it gets dark, I showed

811
00:57:38.199 --> 00:57:42.639
the trackway. I show people. Okay, you know they're gonna

812
00:57:42.639 --> 00:57:45.480
come from the top of the ridge. They're gonna drop

813
00:57:45.559 --> 00:57:48.920
down from my left. They're gonna drop down midway on

814
00:57:49.039 --> 00:57:51.960
the ridge. They're gonna make a hard left, and they're

815
00:57:51.960 --> 00:57:54.519
gonna come towards me, and the trackway will cut right

816
00:57:54.559 --> 00:57:58.159
in front of me, roughly twenty yards in front of me,

817
00:57:58.239 --> 00:58:01.559
twenty five yards in front of me. So and I

818
00:58:01.639 --> 00:58:06.199
knew that this was roughly the time that that it

819
00:58:06.480 --> 00:58:11.840
or they would be coming through. So we get set up,

820
00:58:12.000 --> 00:58:17.320
everything set up. We're completely dark, blacked out, and I

821
00:58:17.400 --> 00:58:21.480
hear it. I hear it coming all. I hear it coming.

822
00:58:23.920 --> 00:58:26.440
Tested all of our gear like we always do prior

823
00:58:26.480 --> 00:58:30.079
to going in. Everything is fresh, new batteries, new SD

824
00:58:30.199 --> 00:58:34.960
cars on that chance, so everything worked. So this thing

825
00:58:35.079 --> 00:58:39.159
drops down, the ridge, makes a hard left. It's coming

826
00:58:39.199 --> 00:58:44.519
towards me. I'm texting my partner, he's coming. It's here,

827
00:58:44.679 --> 00:58:47.920
it's here, it's coming, it's coming. It's on top of me.

828
00:58:49.039 --> 00:58:52.639
I light everything up. I light all my my thermals up,

829
00:58:53.679 --> 00:58:59.159
and everything is there's all everything with my my ir

830
00:58:59.280 --> 00:59:05.159
scrambles my my screen just picked it picked piculates, I

831
00:59:05.199 --> 00:59:09.679
get nothing. Everything, everything drops out one hundred percent. Now

832
00:59:09.760 --> 00:59:14.119
this thing is dead smack in front of me. And

833
00:59:14.159 --> 00:59:17.559
the only thing that at that time, the only thing

834
00:59:17.679 --> 00:59:20.679
then that I could do was just light the area up.

835
00:59:21.400 --> 00:59:24.079
That's all I could do. So I hit my I

836
00:59:24.159 --> 00:59:29.480
hit my my lights. I light the area. There's absolutely

837
00:59:29.519 --> 00:59:34.320
nothing standing in front of me, absolutely nothing. My partner

838
00:59:34.360 --> 00:59:37.599
makes his way up to me, I walk out, We

839
00:59:37.719 --> 00:59:42.920
walk out, there's his impressions in the ground. I turn around.

840
00:59:43.039 --> 00:59:45.559
I track it all the way back to where I

841
00:59:45.639 --> 00:59:48.239
first heard it coming off the off the ridge. I

842
00:59:48.320 --> 00:59:51.280
track it all the way back up to the ridge

843
00:59:51.880 --> 00:59:53.880
and I turn around. I track it all the way

844
00:59:53.920 --> 00:59:57.000
back down to right in front of me, and there's

845
00:59:57.079 --> 01:00:02.000
no exit. There's absolutely no exit point and tracks knew nothing.

846
01:00:02.639 --> 01:00:08.119
It was gone at that particular time. I believe that

847
01:00:10.239 --> 01:00:14.320
I was this is me, that once again, this is

848
01:00:14.400 --> 01:00:17.719
my thought and where I was at in my head space,

849
01:00:18.519 --> 01:00:23.519
that it showed me something that I don't think very

850
01:00:23.559 --> 01:00:27.800
many people have ever witnessed. And I think that you

851
01:00:27.960 --> 01:00:33.800
need to be I think you need to be connected

852
01:00:33.840 --> 01:00:38.599
in a certain way for this to happen. And I

853
01:00:38.639 --> 01:00:42.119
would have never thought thought that prior to this night.

854
01:00:44.239 --> 01:00:47.199
Once again, like prior to my sighting, I thought they

855
01:00:47.199 --> 01:00:50.840
were just a grade eight. Up to this point, they

856
01:00:50.840 --> 01:00:55.079
were flesh and blood, an animal, and that is it.

857
01:00:55.920 --> 01:01:01.480
Nothing else. I was very close minded. I didn't and

858
01:01:01.519 --> 01:01:05.880
I hate using the word wop. I despise the word moove.

859
01:01:05.960 --> 01:01:10.760
I wish we could figure out another word to say.

860
01:01:10.840 --> 01:01:15.000
But I was not there at all. I'd shut you

861
01:01:15.079 --> 01:01:19.920
down on a heartbeat over that stuff up to that point.

862
01:01:20.880 --> 01:01:27.119
And then I started really researching, getting into the stories

863
01:01:27.679 --> 01:01:31.760
of people that have had this happen to them, and

864
01:01:32.360 --> 01:01:35.800
those group of people there's not many out there. There's

865
01:01:35.920 --> 01:01:38.119
not a lot of people out there that have had

866
01:01:38.199 --> 01:01:43.239
something like this happen. So I honestly believe that that

867
01:01:43.480 --> 01:01:48.079
night I was given something. I really do. Now. You know,

868
01:01:48.159 --> 01:01:50.599
it's not talking to me. It wasn't speaking to me

869
01:01:50.719 --> 01:01:53.199
or anything like that, but I take that as a

870
01:01:53.280 --> 01:01:55.719
form of of communication.

871
01:01:58.960 --> 01:02:07.119
That's extremely interesting. Yeah, no, that's that, it seems, you know,

872
01:02:07.159 --> 01:02:11.440
And I'm not as far as you guys are for sure,

873
01:02:11.480 --> 01:02:17.800
but the further you get into it, you definitely you

874
01:02:17.840 --> 01:02:21.960
start to realize some really interesting things kind of as

875
01:02:21.960 --> 01:02:24.519
you go along and have you ever had it where

876
01:02:24.960 --> 01:02:30.719
you you have a recorder and it picks up sounds

877
01:02:30.760 --> 01:02:34.719
that you didn't hear live at the time, but you

878
01:02:35.760 --> 01:02:40.239
and if it was recorded by the recorder, it's so

879
01:02:40.480 --> 01:02:43.760
close that you should have been able to see whatever

880
01:02:44.159 --> 01:02:45.760
you saw, whatever it was, you know what I mean.

881
01:02:47.480 --> 01:02:53.880
Yeah, I've had I had my recorder actually two weeks

882
01:02:53.880 --> 01:02:57.239
prior to that night that happened. I had my recorder

883
01:02:57.679 --> 01:03:03.800
not even not even five feet away from me, and

884
01:03:03.360 --> 01:03:08.920
I'm sitting there and I absolutely nothing, heard absolutely nothing,

885
01:03:10.000 --> 01:03:13.159
But I went, I left it there. And but I

886
01:03:13.239 --> 01:03:15.800
know the times you know, of my when I was

887
01:03:15.840 --> 01:03:18.880
there during the recordings, you could hear me, you know,

888
01:03:19.400 --> 01:03:22.719
getting up and moving away and walking off. So I

889
01:03:22.760 --> 01:03:25.280
knew up to the point of me walking off, I'm there.

890
01:03:26.119 --> 01:03:31.239
So what I've captured on the recorder though I didn't

891
01:03:31.239 --> 01:03:36.719
hear it, I didn't hear it at all. And is

892
01:03:36.719 --> 01:03:43.039
it what is it? Paranormal? Is it? Was it a sasquatch?

893
01:03:44.239 --> 01:03:45.079
I don't know.

894
01:03:45.800 --> 01:03:50.079
But my recorder picked up an audio, It picked up

895
01:03:50.159 --> 01:03:57.199
something that I literally did not hear. But I've had

896
01:03:57.280 --> 01:04:01.000
I've had I've had many we we we have had

897
01:04:01.159 --> 01:04:03.440
my partner and I and even even guys that we

898
01:04:03.599 --> 01:04:07.280
go out with and bushwhack guys that you know, research

899
01:04:07.400 --> 01:04:09.599
the way that we research and how we go in

900
01:04:09.679 --> 01:04:12.760
and do things, we've all had it. We've all had

901
01:04:12.800 --> 01:04:16.159
it happened to us, Like, how how on the head?

902
01:04:17.840 --> 01:04:19.920
Why did we not hear this? How could we not

903
01:04:20.039 --> 01:04:23.719
hear this? And when one recorder would tack it up

904
01:04:23.840 --> 01:04:28.079
and another recorder twenty yards away didn't retick it up,

905
01:04:28.400 --> 01:04:32.920
didn't take it up. How is that possible three recorders

906
01:04:32.960 --> 01:04:40.280
would go dead, one recorder would beat us? Fine, it doesn't. Yeah. Yeah.

907
01:04:40.400 --> 01:04:44.039
The more that you're right, and the more you get

908
01:04:44.079 --> 01:04:48.280
into this, the more you're out there, the more you research,

909
01:04:48.440 --> 01:04:53.360
the more open minded you become. And you you really

910
01:04:53.400 --> 01:04:57.679
you have you have to evolve in your research. You

911
01:04:57.760 --> 01:05:02.119
have to evolve as your mind and thinking and and

912
01:05:02.599 --> 01:05:06.239
you just you have to grow with it, and you

913
01:05:05.599 --> 01:05:09.840
you just have to accept certain things. That's a part

914
01:05:09.880 --> 01:05:13.679
of research, and that's a part of being a researcher.

915
01:05:14.559 --> 01:05:17.559
You have to look at everything. And and that's one

916
01:05:17.599 --> 01:05:20.199
thing I beat myself up on now is why was

917
01:05:20.239 --> 01:05:24.760
I so closed minded all those years? All those years

918
01:05:24.800 --> 01:05:28.559
just being so closed minded? You know, of No, there's

919
01:05:28.559 --> 01:05:33.239
no way. No, there's no way. There's why. That's that's

920
01:05:33.280 --> 01:05:38.440
not research. That's not what it's about, you know. So

921
01:05:38.880 --> 01:05:42.360
that's that's where I am now with my research. There

922
01:05:42.519 --> 01:05:47.639
there's there's something more to this. There's two there's there's

923
01:05:48.320 --> 01:05:50.840
there's too many stories out there's not a lot of

924
01:05:50.880 --> 01:05:53.599
people that had what I had happened to me happened

925
01:05:53.800 --> 01:05:56.519
to them. There's not there's not many people out there

926
01:05:56.559 --> 01:05:58.920
like that. But there's there's too much when you go

927
01:05:59.079 --> 01:06:05.400
back into history, when you start reading history of encounters

928
01:06:05.760 --> 01:06:09.440
and this happens to them, you know, there's there's just

929
01:06:10.480 --> 01:06:12.599
you have to look at it. You have to at

930
01:06:12.760 --> 01:06:14.039
least look at it.

931
01:06:14.760 --> 01:06:18.360
You know, it's a really interesting thing that you guys

932
01:06:18.400 --> 01:06:22.400
have going on there. It feels like or hopefully I

933
01:06:22.400 --> 01:06:25.199
hope that it continues to progress and it sounds like

934
01:06:25.239 --> 01:06:29.599
you guys are still going out and and uh researching

935
01:06:29.840 --> 01:06:31.920
in current day correct.

936
01:06:32.960 --> 01:06:37.119
Yes, oh yeah, yeah, it doesn't. It doesn't stop. It

937
01:06:37.960 --> 01:06:41.719
just doesn't stop. How can it stop? You know, when

938
01:06:41.840 --> 01:06:45.400
when when you gathered as much as you have the

939
01:06:45.519 --> 01:06:50.840
data that you have to just walk away. You can't

940
01:06:50.880 --> 01:06:53.880
just walk away. You can't just oh, Okay, that's enough,

941
01:06:54.000 --> 01:06:58.639
I'm done. Yeah, let's let's go find something else. You can't,

942
01:06:59.480 --> 01:06:59.960
you can't.

943
01:07:00.400 --> 01:07:04.920
What if Bigfoot was discovered in Southeast Oklahoma tomorrow, would

944
01:07:05.000 --> 01:07:06.960
you still continue researching in your area?

945
01:07:08.400 --> 01:07:14.000
Most definitely, album, Yeah, most definitely. There's there's always always

946
01:07:14.000 --> 01:07:17.760
stuff to learn, you know, all there there will always

947
01:07:17.840 --> 01:07:21.119
be things to learn. Just you know, if it came

948
01:07:21.159 --> 01:07:24.679
out tomorrow, you know here it is. This is a

949
01:07:26.039 --> 01:07:31.480
it doesn't stop. The research doesn't stop, you know, And

950
01:07:31.599 --> 01:07:34.599
that goes back to Jane, you know good all she

951
01:07:34.760 --> 01:07:39.480
found them, she studied, she didn't stop. Yeah, there was

952
01:07:39.519 --> 01:07:41.880
always more to learn, always more to learn.

953
01:07:43.440 --> 01:07:47.199
Absolutely, and Eric, it has been. It has been a

954
01:07:47.239 --> 01:07:51.320
really enjoyable conversation with you. You guys are doing some some

955
01:07:51.480 --> 01:07:56.599
awesome research out there. Thank you for for hanging out

956
01:07:56.639 --> 01:07:59.679
with me tonight and for for sharing what you guys

957
01:07:59.719 --> 01:08:04.599
have accomplished so far. Are there are there any ways

958
01:08:04.639 --> 01:08:09.719
that people can reach out to you if they have

959
01:08:10.960 --> 01:08:13.760
things they want to share with you, or how they

960
01:08:13.760 --> 01:08:16.880
can keep up to date with what you guys are doing,

961
01:08:17.399 --> 01:08:21.439
or if you guys are just kind of in the background,

962
01:08:22.119 --> 01:08:23.399
that's fine too, you know.

963
01:08:24.880 --> 01:08:27.960
Yeah, I mean, you can you can you can find

964
01:08:27.960 --> 01:08:31.720
me on on Facebook? You know, Eric Kitten. I don't

965
01:08:31.720 --> 01:08:36.319
go buy anything else but my name, so I'm I'm

966
01:08:36.359 --> 01:08:42.560
out there. Yeah, if people have questions or whatever, message me,

967
01:08:43.039 --> 01:08:49.760
you know. Yeah, And and I travel. I've I've been

968
01:08:49.840 --> 01:08:52.960
out on where people have called me and said, hey,

969
01:08:53.079 --> 01:08:55.560
is there any way that we can meet up? And

970
01:08:55.600 --> 01:08:58.319
you can I've got this going on or this going on,

971
01:09:00.199 --> 01:09:03.000
and yeah, I love doing that stuff and I love

972
01:09:03.159 --> 01:09:06.640
talking to people, you know, so most definitely, but yeah,

973
01:09:06.680 --> 01:09:08.439
you can. You can find me on Facebook.

974
01:09:09.119 --> 01:09:14.760
Fantastic. Well, Eric, thank you so much for chatting tonight,

975
01:09:14.840 --> 01:09:18.159
and we'll have to be in touch with you in

976
01:09:18.199 --> 01:09:19.840
the future. And have a great night.

977
01:09:19.880 --> 01:09:22.720
Sir Jasalon, thank you very much.

978
01:09:23.239 --> 01:09:26.039
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997
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998
01:11:18.079 --> 01:11:19.560
Her and I can get out here, we can tell

999
01:11:19.600 --> 01:11:22.880
our stories. Maybe there's somebody else out there listening that's

1000
01:11:22.920 --> 01:11:25.840
too afraid to tell their story. Maybe this will give

1001
01:11:25.880 --> 01:11:28.640
them the courage to come out. And I feel so

1002
01:11:28.800 --> 01:11:31.880
bad about it. Who cares what anybody's thinks. I know

1003
01:11:31.920 --> 01:11:35.159
what I saw, I know what's out there. That's all

1004
01:11:35.199 --> 01:11:35.720
I care about.

1005
01:11:51.680 --> 01:11:55.720
Please let people know, Please let them know. If you

1006
01:11:55.920 --> 01:11:58.760
ever see one of these things, you need you tell

1007
01:11:59.439 --> 01:12:02.119
because if you don't, then shame on you, you know,

1008
01:12:02.920 --> 01:12:14.479
shame on you.