Face to Face with Bigfoot: Real Stories from New England

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all right, Big for Society.
We got the privilege of talking to

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Norma and Bob. They are bigfoot
researchers from based out of Connecticut now,

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but they've also done things in Massachusetts
in the past as well. But how

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are we doing today? Norma great? How are you? Oh? I'm

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doing good. I had the privilege
of already talking to you a little bit.

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We had a pre interviewed Chow earlier
today and that was awesome. We

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talked about you've been involved with a
lot of things over the years, pretty

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cool stuff being involved with finding Bigfoot
over the years, and definitely is great

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to start to know your background and
almost almost vet you in a little bit

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of a way. But what else
do we have going on tonight for you?

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Norma planning on going out tomorrow night
and doing some research with another friend

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and my husband. We haven't been
out. We're going actually to the mass

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area where we've researched for quite a
few years since two thousand and six.

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We had a little expedition there in
two thousand and seven and it's been quite

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a active area, to say the
least, and it's been pretty interesting and

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a lot of fun. But also
sometimes it's a little unnerving when you're out

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in the pitch dark, because we're
out there in the pitch dark. You

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and I know it's cliche to say
you can't see your hand in front of

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your face, but honestly, that's
the truth. It's so dark. We

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just sometimes were just sitting in the
dark, listening to everything that's around us

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and hoping that one of these creatures
will approach us, as opposed to us

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trying to draw it in, you
know what I mean. So we're out

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there doing our thing, having fun, learning a lot, having other people

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that are new, you know,
come out with us. We had this

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he's a really great friend now,
but he I don't even know who introduced

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us, but he wanted to go
out so bad. And we went out

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to this Massachusetts research area and we
built a fire. I was with another

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one of my friends who has gone
out with me many times, but he

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pretty much stayed by the fire.
He wouldn't leave the fire. I'm like,

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come on, come on over here. We heard something, so we

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moved away. We walked away from
the fire and I'll stay here. Just

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my friend and I were standing there
and what we were hearing was whistles,

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these very light whistles, and I
thought it was my friend and I had

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what we listen with is an H
two recorder, so I'm always I always

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have it on and I'm always recording, and when we go out usually I

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have Now I have four H two's
so that everybody can have one, and

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I also have amplifiers that connect to
the H twos, so everybody that comes

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out with us is hearing the same
thing that we're hearing. However, I

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only had one at the time,
and I had it on and I was

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listening, and I thought my friend
was doing it. I said, are

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you doing that? He said no, I'm right, And I should have

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known because if you've ever listened through
an H two or I think they have

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new ones now a minor. I
love the H two's, but I think

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they have H or H N two
or something like that. But you can't.

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You can't not hear everything that's going
on. You move or you brush

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your jacket, and it's so loud. So I should have known that he

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wasn't doing it. But I had
to ask him anyway, because you just

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I don't want him messing with me. And he said, no, I'm

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not doing it. And our friend
was sitting at the fire and he was

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hearing it too, So we ended
up listening for a little bit and it

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was so subtle and it was so
close, and I think that's why it

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was so subtle. It was I
don't think it was meant to be loud.

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And when we heard it, I
turned After we heard it, I

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turned the H two on. I
was standing there for a little while with

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it, recording and nothing was happening, so I shut the recorder off.

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I shut the recording part off and
was just listening and it would happen again,

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and I was like, when you
figure, so I'd put it on

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again and nothing would happen, and
then as soon as I've shut it off,

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something would happen. So that went
on for a little bit, and

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then we went back to the fire
with this other guy. Since then,

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though, this friend of ours has
been with us for quite some time and

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he is a trip and we have
such a good time. When you go

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out and research, sometimes in the
majority of the time there is nothing going

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on. You are just sitting there
in the dark, waiting for something that

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hopefully happened, and nothing does.
So it's probably, I don't know,

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eighty percent of the time nothing happens. So when you're sitting there, you're

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either When my husband and I are
out there, we pretty much know how

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the two of us work. We
know how we'll converse with each other and

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we'll say, oh, that was
an interesting sound or something like that.

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But when there's other people with you
and they don't know what those sounds are,

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especially if they're new and they hear
these things, they're like, oh,

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what is that? So they step
all over the audio. Sometimes you

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just have to stop and say,
okay, let's just listen and wait and

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see what happens. And we're all
quiet, or if we're talking this friend

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of ours his name is Fred,
and he is a real cut up,

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and we are in there sometimes we
are laughing and joking. And the amazing

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thing is that the age two is
even though there's other noises, especially when

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you're because we can hear each other
really well, but when there's other noises

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they kind of stick out. I
don't know how that works. I don't

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know how it happens, but us
and one of us will hear something and

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we'll go, I just heard something. So we'll all like, I'll just

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all of a sudden, we'll all
just be quiet and listen and either something

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will happen, or maybe it's another
animal out there that we're you know that

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we say, oh, okay,
that was a kyo or maybe a little

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chipmunk or something running around. Squeak. And so it's pretty interesting with him

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because he's so funny and he gets
us all going and we'll be hysterical.

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One time we were doing that.
We were in the car and he was

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sitting in the seat behind us,
and this is what we do I mentioned

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to you before that we have done
in our research so many methods of research.

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We've gone out there and we have
walked trails in the middle of the

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night until dawn. We have yumped
out, we have sat in the dark,

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we have done so many things.
We've knocked on trees, we've made

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calls, We've done all kinds of
things throughout our research. And several years

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ago we were going out during I
think it was probably in November when it

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was starting to get cold, and
my husband and I decided that we're going

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to try something different. We're going
to just drive out to our research area.

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We're not going to start a fire. And we've done plenty of that.

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We've been a five degree weather researching. The Squatch are probably laughing at

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us, saying, what are these
people crazy in five degree weather when they're

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to hold down somewhere nice and warm, they're not coming out. We actually

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with another friend of ours, my
husband and I and another friend of ours,

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we went out and we did the
whole It was again, we don't

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go out until late at night.
We don't go out until like probably eleven

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or twelve. Steve calls it squatch
thirty, so it's twelve thirty. So

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we go out there, and we
went out there. It was he had

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a little pop up tent. He
brought his grill because we sometimes you want

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to get those smells out there,
maybe they'll draw something in and built a

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fire freezing cold out there, and
we had and it started to think a

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light mist like an icing mist was
coming, was starting to come out or

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happen, and we heard something and
then we just I don't know what that

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was. Maybe it was I don't
know, I don't know what we thought

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it was. But when we had
drew, when we had driven in,

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there was snow on the ground and
there were no other tracks going into this

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area, so we know that there
was nothing else and there were no other

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tracks, like no animal tracks or
anything like that. So we're sitting there

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and not fifteen feet away from us, we we decided to get up and

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walk up the road. And as
we're walking up the road, we're going

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back to where our tire tracks were, and we're following our tire tracks,

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and we saw moose tracks in the
snow. Whatever we briefly heard. There

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was a moose and he was a
pretty good prince. These size, this

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pretty good sized prints. It crossed, it came through the woods, and

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of course, like I said,
it was that icing was happening and we

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could hear it on the little awning
that he brought, a little pop up

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tent or awning that he brought,
and so that might have had something to

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do with it. You know,
when other sounds are happening, you can't

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hear you know what you really need
to hear. We didn't. We heard

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something briefly and then that was it. But the moose came through one side

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of the road and through the woods, across the road and went through the

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other side of of the woods,
and we're like, wow, that was

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so close and we didn't even hear
it, which made us think about,

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Okay, had that been a bigfoot, would we have heard that? Right,

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We probably wouldn't have. So it's
you know, it's interesting these different

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scenarios that you go through. So
again, we've been through them all.

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We've done all kinds of methods of
you know, research, and the one

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that we tend to stick with and
we do get up. We do still

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get out walk at night and do
things like that. I'll tell you one

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story that was funny, but we
decided to just go and sit in our

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car, put our H two's out
the window and just listen. It was

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freezing out anyway, so we'll stay
in the car. Hopefully we'll keep a

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little warm. We don't turn on
the car, and we just you know,

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dress warm, bring some blankets.
Our dog always goes with us.

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She's been squatching since she was eight
weeks old, so she's used to it.

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And we just all bundle up and
we listen, and so many things.

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It seems like I said, we're
not bothering them. We're not out

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there knocking on trees. And I'm
not saying that's not a good thing.

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I'm not saying there's all kinds of
things that we do as researchers, and

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that's fine. We've, like I
said, we've done it. And on

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occasion we'll still go out there and
maybe knock on a tree when we're bored,

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like nothing's happening. Let's not go
on a tree and see what happens.

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Or somebody else that comes with us
will say, Okay, I'm going

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to get out and I'm going to
do yell or I'm going to do something.

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See what happens. See if we
bring anything in. So We're okay

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with that, but what we generally
do is go out and we're real quiet,

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hoping something will come to us.
And plenty has come to us doing

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that method. So one night in
the Massachusetts research area, we're all sitting

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there and my friend Fred, he's
the cut up the he's such a great

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guy, and we were having a
good time. Nothing was going on,

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nothing, and we're just they make
up bigfoot songs to regular songs. It's

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really hysterical while they're doing that.
And most some of the time I'll jump

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in and do another sound but a
song or something. But I'm listening.

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I'm listening to what's going on.
I'm listening to them, but I'm really

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tuning into as those two. It's
like a comedy show. So those two

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are going at it and I'm laughing
along with them, but I'm listening too,

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and if I hear anything, I'll
say, oh, I just heard

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something. Everybody would just go silent. So it's almost like that radio silent.

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Everybody will go silent and would just
be listening. So one night we're

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sitting there. We've been there quite
some time. I think it was about

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I would have to say about four
in the morning and cooler out. All

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of a sudden, they're doing their
comedy show there and I'm listening, and

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all of a sudden, I hear
something off in the distance, and Bob

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actually heard it at the same time, and we're like, okay, this

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thing. It sounded like a freight
train was coming through the woods. This

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thing was looking through the woods.
It was running so fast you could hear

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branches breaking, and as you're and
it's coming toward us, and all you

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can hear is this thing running.
And I don't know what made it stop,

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but all of a sudden, and
it's getting, like I said,

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it's getting closer to us, and
all of a sudden, it just stopped

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on a dime. It just stopped
running. And we're like, what the

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heck is that? And we're talking, saying what could that be that would

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just stop like that? And then
it just picked up and started running again,

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just as fast as it was running
the first time. And then it

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stopped again, and this time it's
closer to us. Big for Society will

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be right back. After these messages. Fred sitting in the backseat. We

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have a Dodge caravan, so he's
sitting in the bar. We took the

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middle seats out, so he's in
the back and he's what is that.

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So when it stopped the second time, then it started walking and it was,

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like I said, it was pretty
close to us. And the H

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two is omnidirectional, so it's sometimes
it's really hard to pinpoint where it is.

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It's not like a parabolic where you
can turn it and really zero in

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on the noises. But when you
use it a lot, you tend to

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be able to at least gauge where
it might be coming from. At least

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my husband and I usually can do
that. On occasion when we're hearing something

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that's really close, we have to
really zone in and try to figure out

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where is this coming from. So
this thing was close to us and it

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was walking, and it must have
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lit ourselves up. And when I
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us up. He's usually in the
driver's seat, And what that means is

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turn on the headlights and see if
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there making that noise. So that's
exactly what we did. We lit it

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up. This thing didn't stop.
It kept walking and it was getting closer

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to us. So we're trying to
figure out where it is. Fred is

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He's like, this thing is it's
really close? I said, I know.

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And so we're listening and at one
point you could hear and it wasn't

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afore, it wasn't four feet you
know what I'm saying. It wasn't a

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deer, it wasn't anything that was
quad. It was something that was bipedal.

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So he's freaking out a little bit. And he said, and so

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I said, okay, so maybe
if we started we couldn't. We can

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only see so far, and we
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usually take that out and I'll be
scanning. And I did that, but

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I couldn't see anything. I hate
when that happens. But I couldn't see

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anything. And so I said,
okay, if we turned the car on,

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maybe if we put the reverse We
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and I said, maybe a backup
cam. So maybe if we put it

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in reverse, maybe we'll see something, you know, behind us. We

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tried that. We couldn't see anything. Again. It's so dark out there,

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no ambient light, no any kind
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dark. And once you get to
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certain point you can't see beyond.
Then we put it in park and we're

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just listening to this thing. This
thing isn't going away, it's walking toward

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us. Now, how far was
it, I don't know, but it

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sounds when you're listening to the H
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with that H two, and so
I don't know how close it was,

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but I can guesstimate because of the
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is, and it was getting close. So Fred, at one point it's

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like, what should we do.
I said, let's just, you know,

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let's just wait and see what happens. The thing's still coming and Fred

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is in the back and he's I
don't know what you guys are going to

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do, but better do something because
it's right behind us. And that's what

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it sounded like. It sounded like
it's right behind us. But then again,

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your brain, you're in that fight
or flight, right your brain is

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telling you something is behind you run
basically, and that's the kind of thing

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that was going on with him.
It's right behind us, So we don't

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know. If it was right behind
us, it could have been on either

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side of us. It could have
been behind us, could have been diagonally,

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I don't know, but it was
pretty close and he was like,

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better do something, it's right behind
us. We decided that we decided to

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at that point to probably leave because
we didn't know how close it would get

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to us. But man, I'll
tell you that was an incredible experience because

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I never heard anything run that fast
and stop just like that. That was

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crazy. Did you have your dog
with you at that time? How did

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your dog react? She is so
used to all the noises that we hear

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out there and there. There have
been a few times when definitely she has

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perked up. She will look and
she can't see obviously when it's that dark,

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but you can see her head turning
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So one night, another night in
the same exact location, Bob and

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I went out and she was with
us. And I'm usually the tech person,

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so I get everything ready, I
get each two's ready if I have.

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We have a night vision that I
keep nearby that records there's no sound,

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but it records and it takes still
photos. So I'm the techie.

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I'm the one that gets it all
together, puts things together, get them

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all started, give them, hand
them out to everybody, and that's when

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we get there. That's what we
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when we first get there, we
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see if there's an other animals out
there, coyotes or bear anything, or

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deer or anything like that out there. When I get it together, I'll

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give him his speech shoe and I
have mine. So we just got there

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and Bob had the window open a
short amount of time, just he had

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about halfway down and Jenna, our
dog, was she had that low growl.

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She wasn't barking, but she had
that low growl that she was looking

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directly out the driver's side into the
woods, and she was not she was

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not happy. She heard something and
Bob said, I hear something. I

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said, okay, I got to
get things together. I said, that's

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I just got I'm not together yet. I don't have everything on and ready,

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and he goes, I hear something
and it's really close. I said,

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roll up the window. You know, I don't want to tell you.

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So I just got everything ready and
then I handed it to him and

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put it out there, and sure
enough we could hear something very close to

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us. We heard it very close
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then we heard something further off,
but it was, you know, a

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little ways. But this whenever it
was that was very close to us,

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sounded agitated. It was moving,
you know, right in one area,

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if you know what I mean.
It was. I don't know if it

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was like moving back and forth or
pacing or whatever, but it was just

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right there. And I'm like,
I was like, wow, what is

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going on? And we hadn't been
there what maybe I think the entire time

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we were there I was setting up, it was probably five minutes. I

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think the entire time was maybe seven
minutes. When we got the H two

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one, put them out the windows, heard that the scuffling, and then

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all of a sudden, there was
this huge whack on a tree. This

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thing was like it had some force, like a Louisville just hit the side

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of a tree and it just popped. It was so loud and puff.

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It was like, holy crap.
It was right right there. And then

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shortly after we heard another knock a
distance away, and then after that one,

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and I'm saying a distance away it
was probably about fifty yards maybe forty

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yards, and then another one in
between the two after that loud tree knock

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and it was a tree whack.
It was so loud. Instantly we have

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that recorded on the EH shoe.
Everything was recorded on the each shoe.

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I usually one of the h two's
is usually recording, and it's usually mine

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because they don't know how to work
them, so I just I record online.

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But you can still set it up
so you can listen without recording,

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so minus recording, theirs are just
on listen. But man, he was

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like, they are not happy.
I think we came in on maybe a

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hunt or something. Maybe they were
hunting and we interrupted whatever it was they

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were doing, but that it did
not want us there, and that has

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to be probably in the gosh,
how many years we've been to probably I

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think we're sixteen years in research.
I've never heard another one like that since

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it was so loud. It's almost
like when lightning hits a tree, it's

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a really loud pop. So that
was pretty interesting. So we weren't there

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very long. We actually thought it
probably would be best to at least the

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area since they were right there.
So that was another one. But that

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our dogs. She has perked up
a couple of times and we watch her.

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Usually we'll watch her and we'll listen. If she does that low growls,

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we know something is up. But
most of the time she's pretty calm.

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And I know a lot of people
say big Foot don't ug dogs,

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or dogs power and all of that
stuff. I think it's because she was

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so young when we started this that
maybe she's just used to it. We

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used to put her in a backpack
and take her hiking with her, so

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she's hiking as far as like research
Bigfoot in the woods at night hiking.

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We don't keep her on a leash
because we don't want anything to happen to

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her. Sure if anything we're confront
us or something, we don't want anything

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to happen to her. So we
usually put her in a backpack or little

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head sticking out if it's warm out
it's a mesh backpack. So she is

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pretty cool. But I think she's
just so used to it that she doesn't

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affect her doesn't again, there are
times when she does. There are times

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when she's perking up and she's looking
straight out the window. She looks like

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a pointer and she's just a little
jack russell and she's it's pretty interesting when

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she does that, because then we're
on high alert. After that, we

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call it the runner. After the
runner, we were pretty pretty alert,

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wondering if it was probably just a
one time something. Maybe it was going

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through the area. I don't know
what it was doing, but it was

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crazy. Have I don't know,
have you ever heard of that where it

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just stops on a dime? I
have heard running that bath, Yeah,

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different, I've heard different accounts were
mentioned as a bluff charge where they'll run

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quickly towards a person through the woods, just taken down on sets of trees,

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and then stop because they're trying to
get the person. What most people

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say, they're trying to get the
person to run away right to get out

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of their area. Now we don't
know that for sure because we can't talk

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to them, but that's if you
look at eight behavior potentially similar. But

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there's a question that a lot of
listeners have in their head right now,

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so I'm going to ask it.
And so we've established we're in Massachusetts,

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and I'm excited for this interview because
I spent the first twenty so years of

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my life out there in western Massachusetts
and a little town called Northfield, beautiful

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town. Yeah, there's a lot
of Yeah, we weren't far from Northfield,

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Yeah, exactly. We chatted about
that. The thing about Massachusetts,

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there's a lot of different regions,
right There's you've got the Berkeshears, You've

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got October Mountain out there, You've
got the Bridgewater Triangle, You've got Franklin

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County, You've got Boston, you've
got Cape Cod all over the place.

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And I don't is there any context
you might be able to give about maybe

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what kind of region we're talking about
when we talk about this area that you're

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focusing in. And I don't want
to push anything, but no, this

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is in Worcester County, So it's
down in the Worcester County area. So

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Franklin County is where we were from, and we went. You know,

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the reason we got to this location, this specific location, was because a

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woman, a friend of ours,
he found out that we were that we

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did big for research, and he
said, I have a friend who might

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have seen a bigfoot outside of her
window. I said, really, okay,

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Well she talked to us and he
said, I'll ask her if she'll,

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you know, if she'll talk to
you about it. And I said,

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okay, I said Okay, that'd
be great. So I was able

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to talk to her. Oh,
I'm sorry, No, that's that's our

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other dog. She's a little We
live out in the woods, so there's

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all kinds of things out here.
Well lost my train of thought. Oh,

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so I was able to call her
and talk to her about it.

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And while I was talking to her
about I don't when I interview people,

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and I've interviewed a few people over
the years, and I don't lead them.

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I don't want to ask leading questions. I don't want to say,

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Okay, was the hair that you
saw brown? You don't want to say

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that because of yeah, I think
it was brown. You just ask them

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what they saw. And that's exactly
what I did with her. So what

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happened that you know that night?
Tell me what happened. And so she

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told me that she was on her
bed watching TV. It was about two

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o'clock in the morning. She's just
like it was a summer night, and

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she was, just like I said, watching TV. Her curtains on her

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window were parted, and it was
probably there was a space in between one

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curtain one curtain from the other,
probably about eight or twelve inch space between

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the two curtains that you could see
outside. And it was, like I

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said, two o'clock in the morning, so it's pretty dark. Go out

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there, and just happened to see
something out of the corner of her eye.

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So she looked over and she didn't
see anything, okay, whatever.

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Then she decided to get up and
part the curtains and look outside. And

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she obviously didn't see anything because it
was dark. And the distance because we

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went over there and actually looked at
the house and looked at the window,

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the distance from the ground to the
window or it's a double hung window,

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so there was a top and bottom
right and the bottom part of the window

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from the ground was over eight feet
tall, eight feet high, and there

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was nothing there. It was there
was nothing on the side of her house

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to climb on, to lift yourself
up on, you know, anything.

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It was just total you know there
over there, nothing, no trees,

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nothing, It's just totally empty.
So she got up big for society,

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who will be right back after these
messages. She parted the curtains a little

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bit more. She looked out.
I don't know what she thought she was

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going to see, but you know, she just saw, Okay, I'll

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just look out there, didn't see
anything. Came back and again it was

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it was pitch dark. I think
that unless somebody had a light on their

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house, there wouldn't be any light
around there. And so she goes back

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on her bed and she starts watching
TV again, and now this time her

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curtains are parted even more, and
she saw something again in the corner of

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her eye, and she looked over
and she saw this face in the window

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about halfway up between you know,
the sill and where the second half of

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the window meets. And she saw
this face in her window, and she

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was freaking out. She called our
friend, you know, the guy that

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we knew, and she was friends
with him as well, and she said,

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somebody's looking through my window. You
got to come over here. She

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was freaking out. So he went
over there, and he has a license

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to carry, so he took something
over with him and he was looking around

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the house in the backyard, just
seeing if there was anybody there that was

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looking through her window. Because he
had no idea what it was. She

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didn't really tell him. She just
said she saw somebody in her window,

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00:32:37.440 --> 00:32:40.480
and that's what she was telling me. And then I said, okay,

409
00:32:40.759 --> 00:32:45.319
so what did you see? She
said. She was trying to explain to

410
00:32:45.359 --> 00:32:49.680
me it was really big. The
head was really big, face was dark,

411
00:32:50.480 --> 00:32:52.839
she said, the hair was dark. But she couldn't. She said,

412
00:32:52.839 --> 00:32:55.400
but I'm not saying that it was
a big foot. And I was

413
00:32:55.559 --> 00:33:00.240
like, okay, just tell me
what you Just tell me what you saw.

414
00:33:00.000 --> 00:33:04.079
And she said, I looked over
there and I saw this face in

415
00:33:04.200 --> 00:33:08.839
the window looking in and it was
It freaked me out. And I don't

416
00:33:08.920 --> 00:33:13.599
know, I don't know what it
was. I called Ray over. He

417
00:33:13.640 --> 00:33:16.200
looked around, and she said,
but I'm not saying that it was a

418
00:33:16.200 --> 00:33:20.240
bigfoot. So she kept saying that
to me, and I chopped all and

419
00:33:20.160 --> 00:33:22.640
and I was like, all right, that's okay. So basically, she

420
00:33:22.720 --> 00:33:29.200
explained her she was describing a big
foot, basically, but she kept saying,

421
00:33:29.519 --> 00:33:32.720
I'm not saying it's a bigfoot.
She wouldn't sleep in her room for

422
00:33:32.759 --> 00:33:37.839
six months after that. And then
and I didn't tell you this before,

423
00:33:38.039 --> 00:33:43.119
but I think it was so that
was, oh gosh, I can't remember

424
00:33:43.119 --> 00:33:49.440
the timeframe. Her son's and a
friend of their sons was standing out in

425
00:33:49.480 --> 00:33:52.880
the driveway. I think they were
smoking a cigarette or something. And this

426
00:33:52.039 --> 00:33:58.920
was probably around five six six in
the app in the evening. Now,

427
00:33:59.079 --> 00:34:05.279
the research air that we started to
research in was across the street from them.

428
00:34:05.920 --> 00:34:08.719
They live in a very rural area. There's a few houses on that

429
00:34:08.920 --> 00:34:15.559
road, but across the street from
them is a state forest, so that's

430
00:34:15.719 --> 00:34:22.199
where the proximity is. And that's
her sighting and her what happened to her,

431
00:34:22.280 --> 00:34:25.599
the peeping bigfoot, that's what got
us to this area. So getting

432
00:34:25.639 --> 00:34:30.760
back to the Suns in the driveway
and their friend, they were standing there

433
00:34:31.079 --> 00:34:36.679
just you know, shooting the bras
and having a cigarette or something whatever that

434
00:34:36.719 --> 00:34:40.760
they were doing, and all of
a sudden, they saw a bigfoot step

435
00:34:40.800 --> 00:34:45.960
over the guard I think was a
guardrail or onto the road across the road

436
00:34:46.280 --> 00:34:51.079
toward them. So it went from
the state forest over to their side of

437
00:34:51.119 --> 00:34:55.039
the road, cross that road and
into the woods. And they couldn't believe

438
00:34:55.039 --> 00:35:01.159
what they were saying, and they
quickly went into the because it was starting

439
00:35:01.159 --> 00:35:05.519
to get dark. They went into
the house and got flashlights and went into

440
00:35:05.559 --> 00:35:09.000
the area where they saw the big
book go in, and they obviously couldn't

441
00:35:09.039 --> 00:35:12.880
find it, but they tried to
go in and see if they could find

442
00:35:12.920 --> 00:35:16.440
it. After that and they couldn't. But this is the same house where

443
00:35:16.480 --> 00:35:22.440
she saw that peeping tom if you
will, in her window. So that

444
00:35:22.559 --> 00:35:27.400
was pretty interesting. So that's what
got us into this research area. We

445
00:35:27.519 --> 00:35:34.719
decided to just go there and walk
the area during the day get a lay

446
00:35:34.719 --> 00:35:37.960
of the land. We went up
to they do have way up on the

447
00:35:38.000 --> 00:35:40.800
mountain, on the hill, mountain, whatever you want to call it,

448
00:35:40.840 --> 00:35:47.159
way deeper into the state forest,
they do have primitive camping. So and

449
00:35:47.199 --> 00:35:51.559
it's really primitive. It's not you
know, this isn't lamping. This is

450
00:35:52.119 --> 00:35:53.320
you know, you don't have water, you don't have electricity, you know,

451
00:35:53.360 --> 00:35:57.119
any of that stuff. It's just
you know, you're out there on

452
00:35:57.159 --> 00:36:00.480
your own tent whatever, you know, hammock whatever you going to do.

453
00:36:00.119 --> 00:36:07.159
So this area and they do have
a section where it's like this kind of

454
00:36:07.159 --> 00:36:10.960
a i want to say, for
lack of a better description, it's like

455
00:36:12.000 --> 00:36:19.079
a meadow. Right, There's just
this really big area where you can fit

456
00:36:19.599 --> 00:36:22.159
like a group if you want a
group of your friends or whatever. If

457
00:36:22.199 --> 00:36:25.760
you all want a tent together,
you can go in this little meadow and

458
00:36:25.920 --> 00:36:30.920
has a in the middle. It
has a fire pit. But most of

459
00:36:30.960 --> 00:36:35.079
the time they don't care where you're
camping. If you want to go in

460
00:36:35.079 --> 00:36:39.239
that section, you can go in
that section. But it's it can be

461
00:36:39.320 --> 00:36:45.280
for maybe I don't know, five
or six tents, let's say. So

462
00:36:45.400 --> 00:36:50.360
we've been there plenty of times.
And off of that, there are trails

463
00:36:50.400 --> 00:36:54.800
that you can take deeper into the
woods, and we've gone on those trails

464
00:36:54.840 --> 00:37:00.199
and they're single file, so that's
they're almost like game trails, but they're

465
00:37:00.000 --> 00:37:06.280
basically for if you want to just
walk out there and see where things are,

466
00:37:06.440 --> 00:37:09.400
see where things are. And we've
gone as far we've gone in a

467
00:37:09.440 --> 00:37:15.719
few directions just exploring. We went
in this one area that we had to

468
00:37:15.760 --> 00:37:22.519
go over a couple of beaver dams
that was pretty sketchy. Yeah, you

469
00:37:22.559 --> 00:37:25.559
don't know when you're going to fall
through, and you know, so we've

470
00:37:25.599 --> 00:37:30.920
done that during the winter time,
and we've also done doing we've also done

471
00:37:30.920 --> 00:37:36.079
that during the summer. In this
particular area where we've gone over those beaver

472
00:37:36.159 --> 00:37:39.559
dams, it opens up and we
find we found these little trails that we

473
00:37:39.599 --> 00:37:44.840
could explore. One of the trails
and I think I told you there was

474
00:37:44.840 --> 00:37:47.639
some boulders out there. These boulders
are probably dropped in the ice age.

475
00:37:47.639 --> 00:37:52.960
I don't know, but they are
they're situated, they're pretty big, and

476
00:37:53.000 --> 00:37:59.440
they're situated where it's almost there's I
think there was like pretty sure there were

477
00:37:59.559 --> 00:38:05.440
three of them, but they were
separated so you could actually walk through them

478
00:38:06.079 --> 00:38:10.400
to the other side and just it's
not very long, but you can walk

479
00:38:10.440 --> 00:38:15.239
through all three of the boulders.
And these boulders were gosh, I don't

480
00:38:15.280 --> 00:38:22.880
know, maybe twenty feet high.
They were pretty up there and then and

481
00:38:22.920 --> 00:38:28.559
then there were spaces between the three
of them, but not huge spaces,

482
00:38:28.920 --> 00:38:32.599
maybe six eight feet between the two
of or the three of them. So

483
00:38:32.639 --> 00:38:37.039
we've gone through there. One of
the times that we went through there,

484
00:38:37.719 --> 00:38:44.159
just before you go into the three
boulders, there was a footprint and this

485
00:38:44.480 --> 00:38:49.559
was I think it was February.
It was a it was February. I

486
00:38:49.559 --> 00:38:54.199
don't remember the year, but this
is in our couple of years into our

487
00:38:54.239 --> 00:38:59.760
research. It was we were having
weather where it would warm up and then

488
00:39:00.079 --> 00:39:01.960
bit cold, and then it would
warm up and then it would get cold.

489
00:39:02.199 --> 00:39:09.000
So apparently one of these times there
was a footprint had stepped on it

490
00:39:09.039 --> 00:39:13.719
when it was warm. The ground
was warm a little mushy, and then

491
00:39:13.719 --> 00:39:15.280
it was hard. So when we
saw it, the ground was hard.

492
00:39:16.000 --> 00:39:21.639
I have pictures that we took.
I could probably send them to you of

493
00:39:21.760 --> 00:39:27.239
this footprint. We had a tape
measure with us and all that stuff.

494
00:39:27.639 --> 00:39:32.159
How long was was the track when
you measured it? The footprint was I

495
00:39:32.159 --> 00:39:42.280
believe fourteen thirteen or fourteen inches,
and it was it looked it looked juvenile

496
00:39:42.400 --> 00:39:45.320
ish, you know how juvenile.
If you look at a juvenile print,

497
00:39:45.639 --> 00:39:51.639
their prints are a little more narrow
than a full grown, sure bigfoot.

498
00:39:52.199 --> 00:39:55.360
Maybe I'm off the wall, but
that's what that's all. That's what I've

499
00:39:55.440 --> 00:40:00.519
known. But it looked like it
was a little a little more narrow.

500
00:40:00.599 --> 00:40:05.760
But I think the width of it
was about four inch three or four inches.

501
00:40:06.440 --> 00:40:10.960
But it was the way it was
crossing in that one little space,

502
00:40:12.039 --> 00:40:16.360
and it was very narrow. The
rest of it was pine needles and leaves

503
00:40:16.400 --> 00:40:21.440
and stuff, so it was it
was a very narrow path. And it

504
00:40:21.599 --> 00:40:27.639
just happened to cross that particular place
when the ground was softer and left a

505
00:40:27.760 --> 00:40:32.760
track and it was heading toward toward
the or crossing towards the boulders. It

506
00:40:32.840 --> 00:40:37.679
was really close to the boulders.
So we thought that was pretty interesting.

507
00:40:37.679 --> 00:40:43.960
Who's going to be out here in
February barefoot? And it was clearly toes

508
00:40:44.239 --> 00:40:49.159
was clearly a footprint, So that
was pretty interesting. But these boulders,

509
00:40:49.159 --> 00:40:53.880
which which is really cool. We
had gone back to those boulders several times,

510
00:40:54.119 --> 00:40:59.519
and one of the times, on
the latter end of that of going

511
00:40:59.559 --> 00:41:04.440
back there, we had gone into
the boulders and when we went in there,

512
00:41:05.000 --> 00:41:08.719
we noticed that they're in those spaces
that I told you were in between

513
00:41:08.960 --> 00:41:16.920
those three boulders, there was twigs
and branches and just the whole thing.

514
00:41:17.000 --> 00:41:23.639
It was almost like it was blocking
those spaces between the three boulders, just

515
00:41:23.840 --> 00:41:30.119
bramble. It was just sticks and
twigs just thrown into this makeshift blockage or

516
00:41:30.159 --> 00:41:36.599
something, and we thought that was
pretty interesting. On both sides of in

517
00:41:36.679 --> 00:41:42.679
between those three boulders, it still
had the path going between them, you

518
00:41:42.719 --> 00:41:47.039
could still go between them, but
the spaces between the three were blocked,

519
00:41:47.639 --> 00:41:52.159
and we're like, wow, what's
this all about. So we had never

520
00:41:52.960 --> 00:42:00.559
seen that the prior to going there, and they were always open and easy

521
00:42:00.840 --> 00:42:06.840
to get through, but this one
time it was just blocked like almost like

522
00:42:06.880 --> 00:42:08.920
a hurting situation, you know,
and I'm saying, you want to hurt

523
00:42:09.000 --> 00:42:13.559
something in there and it can't get
out. It only has one way in,

524
00:42:13.679 --> 00:42:17.079
one way out. And then to
be up on those boulders, I

525
00:42:17.079 --> 00:42:22.079
guess you're you try to think,
you're trying to rationalize what could this be,

526
00:42:22.159 --> 00:42:27.159
what could this mean? And knowing
that their bigfoot in the area,

527
00:42:27.199 --> 00:42:30.400
was it something that they were doing. Was it were they perched up on

528
00:42:30.400 --> 00:42:36.320
one of these boulders, some other
bigfoot was hurting, maybe a deer in

529
00:42:36.360 --> 00:42:39.599
there or something. I don't know. It was pretty interesting, and I

530
00:42:39.639 --> 00:42:43.639
know they must do things like that. Animals do that all the time,

531
00:42:44.239 --> 00:42:49.280
trying to ambush deer or something like
that. So that was pretty interesting.

532
00:42:49.800 --> 00:42:52.760
Another thing that happened in that area. On the way to the boulders,

533
00:42:53.199 --> 00:42:59.599
we were coming I think we're coming
back, and I looked across to the

534
00:42:59.639 --> 00:43:07.239
other of the woods and this was
the weirdest thing. The trees there was.

535
00:43:07.639 --> 00:43:12.840
There were like this line of trees. Obviously it's coincidental that these trees

536
00:43:12.840 --> 00:43:16.519
were lining up again. You could
just look down and see like several trees

537
00:43:16.599 --> 00:43:22.320
that were in a row up in
the crooks of the branches. Were these

538
00:43:22.639 --> 00:43:27.239
long, other long branches, and
it was high. It was high up.

539
00:43:27.679 --> 00:43:31.280
It had to have been about maybe
thirty feet up in the crooks of

540
00:43:31.320 --> 00:43:38.360
the branches. There were these horizontal
tree branches that were just in there across

541
00:43:38.559 --> 00:43:44.039
and then I looked across the other
trees and it was the same thing.

542
00:43:44.119 --> 00:43:49.599
There was this long tree branch that
was just in the crook of the tree

543
00:43:49.840 --> 00:43:57.360
going there were several and what how
did that those get up there? Sure,

544
00:43:57.480 --> 00:44:00.480
but I guess people could do that, but what was the purpose of

545
00:44:00.519 --> 00:44:02.559
that be and out in the middle
of nowhere, right, that kind of

546
00:44:02.599 --> 00:44:07.559
stuff, It just that boggles my
mind because it's like, it doesn't make

547
00:44:07.599 --> 00:44:10.920
any sense for someone to do that
in a tree that's so high up,

548
00:44:12.039 --> 00:44:15.239
and just it doesn't make sense,
and what's the logic behind that? I

549
00:44:15.400 --> 00:44:20.039
just it's very weird stuff when you
see stuff like that. Yeah, it

550
00:44:20.159 --> 00:44:24.920
was really interesting, and it was
in that same area, but it wasn't

551
00:44:25.119 --> 00:44:30.119
close to the boulders, but it
was in that vicinity of the boulders.

552
00:44:30.119 --> 00:44:35.039
And it thought, wow, that
is and I'm not talking ten foot branches.

553
00:44:35.119 --> 00:44:40.559
These were like little saplings. Wow, that were placed up there in

554
00:44:40.559 --> 00:44:45.760
this vertical pattern and I'm like,
holy cow, what the what the heck

555
00:44:45.920 --> 00:44:52.079
is that? You know what?
How it was boggling as wow. Yeah,

556
00:44:52.159 --> 00:44:57.039
people need to listeners need to realize
that the county you're talking about,

557
00:44:57.039 --> 00:45:00.239
Worcester County, has some very wild
area in it. I grew up in

558
00:45:00.280 --> 00:45:04.320
Northfield. Yeah, my father and
I we used to go hiking in the

559
00:45:04.360 --> 00:45:07.719
kolab And Reservoir area all the time. You are out in the sticks.

560
00:45:08.039 --> 00:45:13.079
When you go into the flot it's
like you don't mess around because that's a

561
00:45:13.199 --> 00:45:19.880
massive amount of wooded area in many
different forests around there. You've got to

562
00:45:19.920 --> 00:45:22.840
be prepared so I can see how
you're experiencing these types of things there.

563
00:45:23.679 --> 00:45:30.480
Yeah, it was really interesting and
we've had so many experiences there when we

564
00:45:30.519 --> 00:45:32.239
went out, Like I said,
at the beginning of our research, we

565
00:45:32.239 --> 00:45:37.039
would do the whoops and halls and
things like that. None of the guys

566
00:45:37.039 --> 00:45:39.800
would I was the only female.
None of the guys would do that.

567
00:45:40.239 --> 00:45:44.599
It was like, a yeah,
I'm not doing that big for society,

568
00:45:44.599 --> 00:46:04.840
will be right back after these messages. That's just too embarrassing for me.

569
00:46:04.960 --> 00:46:07.360
I can't do that. So I
would be the one doing it, you

570
00:46:07.400 --> 00:46:12.760
know, I'd be letting out these
calls or woops or something like whatever.

571
00:46:13.320 --> 00:46:19.960
And it was amazing because some of
the time the whoops that came back sounded

572
00:46:20.039 --> 00:46:24.599
like me. So one of the
guys that, yeah, we had returned

573
00:46:24.599 --> 00:46:32.199
whoops. And on several occasions the
whoop sounded like my exactly like my whoop

574
00:46:32.239 --> 00:46:36.000
that went out, and one of
the guys said, did you hear that?

575
00:46:36.199 --> 00:46:38.800
So just like you, I'm like, yeah, that's creepy, exactly

576
00:46:38.880 --> 00:46:44.880
like that. So finally I was
able to get the guys to do at

577
00:46:44.960 --> 00:46:47.039
least some I said, guys,
I can't do this myself all the time.

578
00:46:47.239 --> 00:46:51.119
Come on, you guys, got
to do something. So my husband

579
00:46:51.159 --> 00:46:53.559
started doing it, and one of
our other friends would try it. But

580
00:46:54.159 --> 00:46:58.679
it's so funny how they were.
But at any rate, were you able

581
00:46:58.719 --> 00:47:02.480
to prove that the sounds coming back
to you, We're not like an echo

582
00:47:04.400 --> 00:47:08.559
coming back where there is absolutely not
an echo. Okay, no, it

583
00:47:08.639 --> 00:47:14.239
didn't happen, lord, an echo
is It didn't come back that quickly.

584
00:47:14.960 --> 00:47:17.320
It wasn't like you let out that
yell and then you could hear it.

585
00:47:17.559 --> 00:47:23.960
You know, it was not even
in that in that realm of an echo

586
00:47:24.039 --> 00:47:30.159
coming back. You can't echo there
anyway, gotcha, gotcha? All right,

587
00:47:30.320 --> 00:47:34.039
there's no echoing when you're out there. You're in the deep woods.

588
00:47:34.079 --> 00:47:38.320
What you're bouncing, it's not like
you have a cavern or a you know,

589
00:47:38.360 --> 00:47:40.760
in an open area where you're just
like ah, you know when you

590
00:47:40.760 --> 00:47:45.000
get it back, it's nothing like
that. You know, it wasn't It's

591
00:47:45.000 --> 00:47:49.320
definitely not an echo, but it's
been. It was. It was pretty

592
00:47:49.360 --> 00:47:54.840
cool. But we've had several things
like that happened. We've also had coyotes

593
00:47:54.880 --> 00:48:00.719
go off and you hear. I'm
a say, I can hear tones and

594
00:48:00.840 --> 00:48:07.440
hear notes and know how that sort
of thing works out. And my husband

595
00:48:07.480 --> 00:48:13.239
and he's also musically inclined. He
plays guitar and drums, so he's got

596
00:48:13.280 --> 00:48:19.719
that and he's singing, so he's
got that same kind of thing. People

597
00:48:19.719 --> 00:48:22.719
who are musically inclined will understand.
I think what I'm saying. You can

598
00:48:22.760 --> 00:48:27.559
hear when something's off, or you
can hear different tones and things like that.

599
00:48:27.880 --> 00:48:30.679
So there was several on several again, several occasions, we will hear

600
00:48:30.719 --> 00:48:36.119
coyotes going off, and not every
single time, so let me be clear

601
00:48:36.159 --> 00:48:43.440
about that. Every single time coyotes
starts yipping that we hear anything else going

602
00:48:43.480 --> 00:48:47.599
on. On occasion, there will
be packs of coyotes going off and you

603
00:48:47.639 --> 00:48:59.519
can hear something distinctly. Hear it
this long drawn out howel or yell or

604
00:48:59.559 --> 00:49:06.519
something that's mixed in with the coyotes. Really creepy when you're listening to it,

605
00:49:06.559 --> 00:49:12.039
because you're like, whoa, that's
something different, and it's powerful and

606
00:49:12.119 --> 00:49:16.639
it's it gets this climactic point and
then comes down. So it's not like,

607
00:49:17.280 --> 00:49:21.480
you know what I'm saying, like
a coyote would do the whole yipping,

608
00:49:21.679 --> 00:49:24.440
and yeah, they're pretty loud,
but it's different. You can hear

609
00:49:24.480 --> 00:49:29.480
it the way you kind of stands
out. Would it sounds like it might

610
00:49:29.519 --> 00:49:32.119
almost be like in Ohio? Is
is it something similar to that? Or

611
00:49:32.880 --> 00:49:37.599
I guess it would be similar,
but not exactly. It's a little bit

612
00:49:37.599 --> 00:49:42.599
different, you know how to explain
it. But we could hear it amidst

613
00:49:42.840 --> 00:49:47.239
what the coyotes were doing, so
it was it's pretty interesting. Can I

614
00:49:47.280 --> 00:49:50.599
say for sure that was a big
foot? No? Absolutely not. Can

615
00:49:50.639 --> 00:49:59.199
I say anything that we experience out
there is absolutely bigfoot? No I can't,

616
00:49:59.719 --> 00:50:02.119
but I'll tell you what. There
are some things out there that you

617
00:50:02.840 --> 00:50:10.679
that happened to us, that are
just unexplainable. You just can't almost can't

618
00:50:10.679 --> 00:50:15.719
wrap your brain around it because you
It's like when people see when they see

619
00:50:15.760 --> 00:50:20.480
a big but they're like their brain
just can't it can't wrap It's what am

620
00:50:20.480 --> 00:50:23.039
I seeing? I'm supposed to be
seeing this? I don't know. It's

621
00:50:23.119 --> 00:50:27.440
just it's just so different when you're
out there, and when you've been out

622
00:50:27.440 --> 00:50:31.400
there for so long, night after
night, just hearing these things or having

623
00:50:31.400 --> 00:50:37.159
these things happened to you. I
was telling you before the reason we got

624
00:50:37.840 --> 00:50:40.519
the H two. I was on
a we were in a group and we

625
00:50:40.639 --> 00:50:44.679
used to go out there. I
don't know what. I still don't know

626
00:50:44.719 --> 00:50:49.360
what we're thinking. There's just been
times where like we're going to die.

627
00:50:50.320 --> 00:50:53.360
You know? What are we doing
out here? Our car, our tent?

628
00:50:53.599 --> 00:50:59.880
Are you know? I mean anything
could get rolled. We've talked about

629
00:51:00.079 --> 00:51:02.679
that before. What if they decide
to just roll our van? Or what

630
00:51:04.119 --> 00:51:07.039
are we going to do. We're
not going to do anything. There's nothing

631
00:51:07.039 --> 00:51:12.400
we can do. But it's always
there that something like that could happen.

632
00:51:12.719 --> 00:51:15.280
And I know there's people out there
to say, oh, Bigfoot's not going

633
00:51:15.320 --> 00:51:19.280
to hurt you. You know,
it's just a warm, fuzzy, little

634
00:51:19.280 --> 00:51:22.719
teddy bear. I'm sorry. I'm
not on that. I'm not on that

635
00:51:22.800 --> 00:51:28.480
group. I don't ever tell anybody. I don't care what it is.

636
00:51:29.039 --> 00:51:34.360
This is something. And again,
what is bigfoot? I don't know.

637
00:51:35.000 --> 00:51:38.000
I call it a creature. I
call all these little creatures that are out

638
00:51:38.000 --> 00:51:42.199
there. I don't know what bigfoot
is. I'm not even going to go

639
00:51:42.280 --> 00:51:47.199
there. But it's also it's a
wild thing, just like any other wild

640
00:51:47.280 --> 00:51:52.679
animal. It's unpredictable. I'm not
going to tell anybody that they're never going

641
00:51:52.760 --> 00:51:54.199
to get hurt. When I go
out, when I bring people out there,

642
00:51:54.840 --> 00:51:58.719
I don't know what's going to happen. You have to be aware of

643
00:51:58.760 --> 00:52:01.119
that. I'm we could come across
a bear. I am not going to

644
00:52:01.159 --> 00:52:06.519
tell him that bear is not going
to do anything to you. I can't

645
00:52:06.559 --> 00:52:12.360
do that. I can't and good
conscious conscience do that. And I've gone

646
00:52:12.400 --> 00:52:17.159
out and I've done talks libraries,
and I've been on podcasts and things like

647
00:52:17.239 --> 00:52:22.119
that. I'm not going to tell
people that you're not going to get hurt.

648
00:52:22.599 --> 00:52:28.559
How many times have you heard stories
that people have told you where they've

649
00:52:28.559 --> 00:52:37.480
been escorted out of the woods.
Yeah, so you know that we had

650
00:52:37.519 --> 00:52:40.480
a bluff charge. Okay, this
wasn't the runner, this was a bluff

651
00:52:40.559 --> 00:52:45.159
charge. We went one other time. It was just Bob and I do

652
00:52:45.199 --> 00:52:49.400
an earth thing. We're listening.
We get there and as soon as we

653
00:52:49.480 --> 00:52:53.159
get there and get set up and
get settled, we just start listening.

654
00:52:53.840 --> 00:52:58.440
And he had his H two on
one side. I had mine in the

655
00:52:58.480 --> 00:53:02.199
other. And again I tell you
there me directional, and but if you

656
00:53:02.320 --> 00:53:07.920
set them up in a certain way, you might not hear another section of

657
00:53:07.960 --> 00:53:13.199
the area. And I don't know
how he had his set up. What

658
00:53:13.280 --> 00:53:17.840
I usually do with mine is going
vertically so that it's you know, up

659
00:53:17.880 --> 00:53:22.519
above and it can and the way
it's turned, it can hear you know,

660
00:53:22.639 --> 00:53:25.719
pretty much all the area. And
I don't, Like I said,

661
00:53:25.760 --> 00:53:30.280
I don't know how he had it
set up. But we're sitting there listening.

662
00:53:30.880 --> 00:53:36.920
I hear these little you know,
twigs, little snapping twigs on the

663
00:53:36.960 --> 00:53:40.039
ground kind of the thing if you
step on something, step on a little

664
00:53:40.079 --> 00:53:44.960
twig, and you hear it snap. I was hearing that off and on

665
00:53:45.840 --> 00:53:50.000
and again. When we go out
there, we don't go straight for bigfoot.

666
00:53:50.360 --> 00:53:55.320
Not everything is bigfoot. I hate
to break it to whomever, but

667
00:53:57.159 --> 00:54:00.000
not everything is bigfoot. We don't
start off thinking, all right, we

668
00:54:00.119 --> 00:54:04.119
just heard that tig snap, so
that must be bigfoot. No, there's

669
00:54:04.199 --> 00:54:07.800
deer out there, there's little critters
out there running around. There's all kinds

670
00:54:07.840 --> 00:54:14.639
of things, all kinds of night
porcupines, raccoons, fox, all that

671
00:54:14.719 --> 00:54:16.960
stuff that are walking through the woods. No, we don't go straight for

672
00:54:17.960 --> 00:54:23.159
let us bigfoot. When we hear
these little snaps, you just it's whatever.

673
00:54:23.719 --> 00:54:30.880
But you continue, obviously, you
continue to listen and try to see

674
00:54:31.039 --> 00:54:37.480
exactly what it might be. Will
you ever know if we can usually tell

675
00:54:37.039 --> 00:54:43.800
if it's like a raccoon or if
it's a little animal scurrying around, it's

676
00:54:43.840 --> 00:54:49.840
the same, it's the same sound. It doesn't really change much. It's

677
00:54:49.840 --> 00:54:54.440
when the big snapping starts happening that
you get on alert. But so we're

678
00:54:54.519 --> 00:55:00.760
listening, and I was hearing it
off and on and subtle was subtle,

679
00:55:00.199 --> 00:55:05.199
And when it first started happened after
a little bit, I said, yeah,

680
00:55:05.239 --> 00:55:07.239
are you hearing that? I said
to Bob, are you hearing that?

681
00:55:07.960 --> 00:55:10.519
He said, hearing what? I
said? I don't know. I

682
00:55:10.559 --> 00:55:15.519
hear these every once in a while. I hear these little twigs snap,

683
00:55:16.639 --> 00:55:20.719
and it could be anything. But
I said, are you hearing that?

684
00:55:20.840 --> 00:55:25.440
He goes not really said all right. This was going on for a little

685
00:55:25.480 --> 00:55:30.119
while where I was just listening,
and I said, and then a little

686
00:55:30.119 --> 00:55:34.280
bigger like a bigger branch with snap
on the ground, and I said,

687
00:55:34.280 --> 00:55:37.639
okay, did you hear that?
He is not really, I don't Why

688
00:55:37.679 --> 00:55:39.119
are you not hearing this? And
I said, then it must be on

689
00:55:39.159 --> 00:55:45.239
my side because I'm hearing something and
I don't know what it is, but

690
00:55:45.280 --> 00:55:52.000
I'm hearing something. So again,
a little while later, little time goes

691
00:55:52.039 --> 00:55:53.840
by and I'm still hearing it,
and I said, okay, did you

692
00:55:53.880 --> 00:55:58.320
hear that? He goes, Yeah, I did hear that, And so

693
00:55:58.519 --> 00:56:01.599
we're I said, I it must
be on my side because I'm hearing it

694
00:56:01.639 --> 00:56:06.760
a lot more than you are,
so I don't know. There must be

695
00:56:06.800 --> 00:56:10.599
that. It must be on this
side of the van. So sat there

696
00:56:10.639 --> 00:56:15.880
a little bit longer. He started
to hear a little subtle snapping and I

697
00:56:15.880 --> 00:56:20.199
said, yeah, I said,
I don't know, Van, this is

698
00:56:20.239 --> 00:56:23.159
weird. And again, this is
all in the H two and it might

699
00:56:23.199 --> 00:56:28.320
not be word for word, but
you know what I'm saying. So all

700
00:56:28.360 --> 00:56:32.679
of a sudden, Oh, I
think prior to that off on his I'm

701
00:56:32.719 --> 00:56:36.360
just going to get Bob for a
second. He took the dog out when

702
00:56:36.440 --> 00:56:39.320
you figure, good timing, Bob, thanks for that. Prior to that,

703
00:56:39.440 --> 00:56:45.000
I believe this was the first thing
that happened, Bob. Carry he's

704
00:56:45.079 --> 00:56:52.000
back again. Prior to the snapping, that tree broke right, Yeah,

705
00:56:52.199 --> 00:56:58.440
so what happened with that tree just
a large tree went over. Trees go

706
00:56:58.480 --> 00:57:00.840
down the forest all the time,
so no real credence to that, but

707
00:57:01.079 --> 00:57:04.719
it did go over. And I
made a silly comment. I just said,

708
00:57:05.199 --> 00:57:07.320
that sounds angry. I said,
if anything happens here, comes rout

709
00:57:07.320 --> 00:57:12.960
of here. Something sounds rogue tonight. We're just it was funny that we

710
00:57:13.199 --> 00:57:16.079
said that. And then a half
hour later, Yeah, so he had

711
00:57:16.119 --> 00:57:20.960
that crack and if anything comes running
toward us, yeah, we're here.

712
00:57:21.559 --> 00:57:23.679
I didn't know you that. We
still have the runner on our mind.

713
00:57:24.000 --> 00:57:29.039
And when we heard that the tree
come down, and it was a tree,

714
00:57:29.599 --> 00:57:32.119
it sounded like a like a dead
tree, like it was pushed over.

715
00:57:34.360 --> 00:57:37.119
And he said, if anything comes
running toward us, we're out of

716
00:57:37.159 --> 00:57:40.239
here. Because, like I said, he still had that on his mind.

717
00:57:42.119 --> 00:57:45.480
So it was probably maybe half an
hour after that was when I started

718
00:57:45.519 --> 00:57:52.400
hearing the snapping sounds. And when
he started to hear it, We're like,

719
00:57:52.480 --> 00:57:57.440
okay, so what is that?
What is going on? And then

720
00:57:57.480 --> 00:58:01.639
all of a sudden, this thing
came running through the woods toward us.

721
00:58:01.800 --> 00:58:04.559
I said, did you hear that? He goes, oh, yeah,

722
00:58:04.599 --> 00:58:09.400
I hear that. And it was
barreling for us. This thing was bluff

723
00:58:09.480 --> 00:58:15.960
charging us, and I said,
light us up, Bob. Bob took

724
00:58:15.000 --> 00:58:21.239
the flashlight, that big beam flashlight
that we have, and he threw it

725
00:58:21.280 --> 00:58:25.079
at me and he said, literally
threw it at me. Look out your

726
00:58:25.119 --> 00:58:30.360
window. He said, yeah,
scan, look out your window. And

727
00:58:30.400 --> 00:58:34.400
so I'm fumbling with the flashlight and
trying to get that get in my wind,

728
00:58:34.480 --> 00:58:37.280
getting it out the window, trying
to look and I said, light

729
00:58:37.360 --> 00:58:40.719
us up. And when I say
light us up, I think I told

730
00:58:40.719 --> 00:58:49.039
you. He puts on the beams
and everything around us within the circumference of

731
00:58:49.159 --> 00:58:53.280
the light shine. We're hoping to
see something. But again it was on

732
00:58:53.360 --> 00:58:57.800
my side. When I knew it
was on my side, So I grabbed

733
00:58:57.840 --> 00:59:01.760
the flashlight and I'm looking out there, he us the light on and right

734
00:59:01.880 --> 00:59:07.360
directly across from me on my side
of the vehicle. And we always have

735
00:59:07.480 --> 00:59:12.559
our vehicle pointed out right we come
in, we turn it around so it's

736
00:59:12.599 --> 00:59:16.280
pointing out. So we need to
make a good basket away smart we're ready

737
00:59:16.320 --> 00:59:23.239
to go on this crappy road out. I look and there's two trees thirty

738
00:59:23.239 --> 00:59:30.480
feet from where we are parked on
my side of the on the vehicle,

739
00:59:30.119 --> 00:59:34.000
and I look out that I put
the beam out there, and there's I

740
00:59:34.280 --> 00:59:38.119
there's an eye. There's something behind
the tree. I can see one eye

741
00:59:38.159 --> 00:59:44.760
shine one eye, so I see
the eye shine and it's an amber like

742
00:59:44.800 --> 00:59:51.039
an amber color. The thing that
I was pretty good size, and it

743
00:59:51.280 --> 00:59:57.000
stopped running. And this thing was
this thing had intent, let me tell

744
00:59:57.039 --> 01:00:00.039
you. And we I forget what
do we call this thing? That's a

745
01:00:00.119 --> 01:00:05.920
creeper. I think that's what we
called it the creeper. Because this thing

746
01:00:06.039 --> 01:00:10.880
was creeping up on us. It
was suddenly making these Obviously it had to

747
01:00:10.920 --> 01:00:15.760
be was walking toward us, but
it was, it was sneaking up on

748
01:00:15.880 --> 01:00:19.880
us, and then all of a
sudden, it just started running, you

749
01:00:19.920 --> 01:00:24.079
know, toward us. At that
at whenever it decided to start running toward

750
01:00:24.119 --> 01:00:28.679
us. And then when we lit
up and I took the flashlight out,

751
01:00:29.320 --> 01:00:34.559
it stopped right by those trees.
We wondered, what would we what would

752
01:00:34.639 --> 01:00:37.119
have happened if we hadn't turned the
lights on, if we hadn't taken the

753
01:00:37.159 --> 01:00:42.239
flashlight up. Would this thing have, you know, been on us?

754
01:00:44.000 --> 01:00:46.480
I don't know what its intent was, but I don't think it was good.

755
01:00:47.119 --> 01:01:08.239
Big for society will be right back
after these messages. But it stopped

756
01:01:08.360 --> 01:01:14.000
and I could see it. I
could see behind again there was a space

757
01:01:14.559 --> 01:01:17.000
I think there was. I think
it was a group of three trees or

758
01:01:17.039 --> 01:01:21.360
one that was split, you know
what I'm saying. There were two smaller

759
01:01:21.360 --> 01:01:23.320
ones on one side and then one
tree on the other side, and I

760
01:01:23.320 --> 01:01:28.239
could see it was in between the
two and the one, and so I

761
01:01:28.280 --> 01:01:35.639
could see one eye behind coming looking
behind the tree, and it was only

762
01:01:35.679 --> 01:01:39.400
thirty feet from us, and I
was like, I see eyeshine. Bob's

763
01:01:39.440 --> 01:01:44.360
what do we do? I don't
know. He goes, should we go?

764
01:01:45.000 --> 01:01:47.719
No? I didn't want to go, but He's like, I think

765
01:01:47.719 --> 01:01:52.840
we should go, and so we
ended up leaving. I didn't want to

766
01:01:52.880 --> 01:01:58.719
go some of the time. Some
of the time we'll bring little glow sticks,

767
01:02:00.840 --> 01:02:04.519
kind of loures. And I think
we had put a glow stick on

768
01:02:04.599 --> 01:02:07.360
his side and we put one on
my side. Was on that crappy dirt

769
01:02:07.800 --> 01:02:14.519
or whatever road that we used to
get it in there. And so when

770
01:02:14.519 --> 01:02:17.079
that happened and he said we're out
of here, we ended up leaving.

771
01:02:17.239 --> 01:02:22.880
And while we were driving out,
I would still have the beam on that

772
01:02:22.039 --> 01:02:25.639
area and I could still see the
eye shine. We left, and I'm

773
01:02:25.679 --> 01:02:29.599
like, oh my gosh, Bob, we got to go back. He

774
01:02:29.679 --> 01:02:32.639
said, no, we're not going
back. I said, it's only two

775
01:02:32.639 --> 01:02:37.039
o'clock in the morning. We have
the whole rest of the night too.

776
01:02:37.360 --> 01:02:40.920
It's only two o'clock. I mean, we have until done. I'm like,

777
01:02:42.000 --> 01:02:45.000
come on, he said, no, I'm not going back. I'm

778
01:02:45.039 --> 01:02:49.800
like what I said, I can't
believe we're leaving this early. So I

779
01:02:49.800 --> 01:02:52.760
said, how about this, how
about we go back? And because he's

780
01:02:52.800 --> 01:02:58.719
still he's out of there, He's
like, I'm out. So I said,

781
01:02:58.719 --> 01:03:01.719
why don't we go back and see
if the glowstick is still there?

782
01:03:02.159 --> 01:03:06.920
Is. No, we're not going
back. So we get to the end

783
01:03:07.360 --> 01:03:10.000
of the road, where we get
to the paved road, and I said,

784
01:03:10.039 --> 01:03:14.199
okay, how about if we go
to the right instead of to our

785
01:03:14.280 --> 01:03:15.880
left is heading home to the right, I said, why don't we go

786
01:03:15.960 --> 01:03:21.519
to the right and see if we
can skirt the area and see if anything

787
01:03:21.559 --> 01:03:24.840
comes out. You know, we're
not going or we're leaving. And he

788
01:03:24.880 --> 01:03:30.000
said, if you want to come
back on your own, you can drop

789
01:03:30.280 --> 01:03:35.199
me and Jenna off and just let
me know what you want on your let

790
01:03:35.199 --> 01:03:38.960
me know what you want in your
obituary. So Norma went back. I

791
01:03:40.199 --> 01:03:44.280
did. I so wanted to go
back, but I didn't end up going

792
01:03:44.320 --> 01:03:45.880
back. Yeah, And I was
like, well, that's real nice,

793
01:03:45.880 --> 01:03:49.679
Bob, that's real nice. He
said, you know, just let me

794
01:03:49.760 --> 01:03:52.559
know what you want, and you
know, and you but sure, yeah,

795
01:03:52.639 --> 01:03:55.639
good, that's good nice, do
you think. Yeah, So closest

796
01:03:55.760 --> 01:04:01.159
you ever got to a bigfoot other
than the that Louisville hitting the tree.

797
01:04:02.000 --> 01:04:09.119
That's one of the that was probably
the most unnerving because after that happened,

798
01:04:09.639 --> 01:04:13.599
when we went back the first time, after that happened, we were on

799
01:04:13.880 --> 01:04:18.840
high alert. Yeah, we were
on big time high alert. And this

800
01:04:18.880 --> 01:04:23.599
could have could have been just a
rogue. I don't know, because none

801
01:04:23.639 --> 01:04:30.440
of the other incidences ever was threatening, you know what I mean. I

802
01:04:30.480 --> 01:04:34.880
think that they and this is like
a few years ago. We never really

803
01:04:34.920 --> 01:04:41.119
had other than that Louisville that hit
the tree, we never really had anything

804
01:04:41.280 --> 01:04:45.800
really threaten us. We've had rocks
thrown pebbles during the night. We had

805
01:04:45.840 --> 01:04:50.840
one night that we went there and
it was it was hysterical. I think

806
01:04:50.920 --> 01:04:57.679
that it was a juvenile because it
hung around us all night and with throws

807
01:04:57.920 --> 01:05:02.480
little pebbles at the center vehicle,
and toward the end of the night,

808
01:05:02.559 --> 01:05:08.440
I think it was I said to
Bob, it must be like all right,

809
01:05:09.039 --> 01:05:11.679
I don't know, I've had enough
of this. It sounded like it

810
01:05:11.719 --> 01:05:16.159
was picking up leaves and sticks and
stuff from the ground and just chucking them

811
01:05:16.159 --> 01:05:20.599
out onto the toward us. And
I said, oh man, this is

812
01:05:20.639 --> 01:05:26.320
really funny. And it was starting
to get a little bit lighter. Done

813
01:05:26.360 --> 01:05:30.159
was breaking, but that's usually when
we leave, and it was just funny,

814
01:05:30.360 --> 01:05:31.599
and I said, all right,
I think this thing is sad enough.

815
01:05:32.079 --> 01:05:38.400
So we went back the next night
with my cousin who we had taken

816
01:05:38.880 --> 01:05:41.840
I think he was at the first
time we took him out. He was

817
01:05:41.920 --> 01:05:46.440
like thirteen, and he's been doing
this with us off and on for quite

818
01:05:46.480 --> 01:05:50.280
a few years. So at this
point when we went out, he was

819
01:05:50.320 --> 01:05:57.039
probably twenty and they're nineteen or twenty. And we went back, we told

820
01:05:57.079 --> 01:06:00.440
him what happened, and we went
back the next day and then night,

821
01:06:00.239 --> 01:06:04.719
and sure enough that thing was back
again. So what happened when we first

822
01:06:04.719 --> 01:06:09.039
got there, We got set up
and this is again this is the exact

823
01:06:09.159 --> 01:06:12.440
This is like a hot spot,
and this one spot that we go to.

824
01:06:13.639 --> 01:06:15.440
We get there, we turned,
you know, the vehicle around,

825
01:06:15.480 --> 01:06:19.400
We get all the H twos together
and everything. All of a sudden and

826
01:06:19.559 --> 01:06:25.719
we're listening out there and we could, you know, we hear the normal

827
01:06:25.719 --> 01:06:30.239
stuff and little twigs and things like
that. All of a sudden, on

828
01:06:30.280 --> 01:06:35.719
our side, on my side of
the vehicle, a rock hits the vehicle,

829
01:06:35.920 --> 01:06:42.480
hits the door straight on. So
we thought this thing was directly thrown

830
01:06:43.559 --> 01:06:47.119
and hit the side of the of
the door. When we listened back on

831
01:06:47.239 --> 01:06:55.920
the H two, what actually happened
was it was thrown, ricocheted off that

832
01:06:56.000 --> 01:07:01.840
crappy road and popped up and hit
our door. That is what actually happened.

833
01:07:01.880 --> 01:07:05.119
When we heard it, it sounded
like a direct hit, like it

834
01:07:05.159 --> 01:07:11.519
was thrown directly at the vehicle.
And then again when we listened back to

835
01:07:11.519 --> 01:07:15.480
it, it was ricocheted off the
ground and popped up on our door,

836
01:07:16.000 --> 01:07:19.239
and I said, so we're like, holy cow, here we go.

837
01:07:20.039 --> 01:07:26.159
And from then on, from that
moment on the rest of the night,

838
01:07:26.639 --> 01:07:30.719
it never did it again. It
just was throwing little pebbles, and it

839
01:07:30.719 --> 01:07:33.599
would, you know, ping off
the pub cap or pick the side of

840
01:07:33.599 --> 01:07:40.400
the tire or something, or it
would land just before us. But I'm

841
01:07:40.440 --> 01:07:45.000
sure that it was the same creature. It did exactly what it did the

842
01:07:45.119 --> 01:07:50.079
night before. And what was weird
was and I think I said to Bob,

843
01:07:50.159 --> 01:07:54.440
I think that was an oops.
I didn't mean to throw it that

844
01:07:54.519 --> 01:07:59.719
hard, So I think, yeah, I'm sure these things are more intelligent

845
01:07:59.760 --> 01:08:01.599
than we thing, but at any
rate, I don't think it meant to

846
01:08:01.639 --> 01:08:05.880
do that. But because after that
it was just throwing these little pebbles,

847
01:08:06.760 --> 01:08:13.679
then something even more strange happened.
Now we were only there that night.

848
01:08:13.880 --> 01:08:18.520
That second night, we were only
there for about an hour tops, And

849
01:08:18.920 --> 01:08:25.399
what ended up happening was we heard
this thing on my side of the vehicle,

850
01:08:26.039 --> 01:08:30.159
and I forget what it was doing. But I got the light out

851
01:08:30.359 --> 01:08:35.439
and started to look outside my side
of the vehicle, and I'm scanning from

852
01:08:36.359 --> 01:08:41.640
left to right. Okay, I
can only go so far until I can't

853
01:08:41.680 --> 01:08:45.319
see past the end of the van. But I'm out there, I'm looking,

854
01:08:45.520 --> 01:08:49.720
and I'm as I'm scanning from left, I can hear this thing running

855
01:08:49.960 --> 01:08:56.760
or moving walking very fast away from
the light. It was moving away so

856
01:08:56.800 --> 01:08:59.880
it would stay out of the beam
and I could hear it. And I

857
01:09:00.159 --> 01:09:04.640
as far back as I could to
the back of the van, and on

858
01:09:04.920 --> 01:09:11.560
the driver's side of the van,
there's this fire access I think it might

859
01:09:11.600 --> 01:09:16.239
be a fire access road, but
it opens up into this like dirt opening,

860
01:09:16.479 --> 01:09:20.680
like a I don't know, like
a just an opening. There's it's

861
01:09:20.720 --> 01:09:24.760
not grass, it's just dirt,
trees all the way around it. And

862
01:09:24.760 --> 01:09:30.640
we've been out there several times too. But it went in that direction the

863
01:09:30.800 --> 01:09:35.760
driver's court kind of diagonal from the
driver's rear quarter panel, if you know

864
01:09:35.800 --> 01:09:41.800
what I'm talking about. And I
and it just again, it just stopped.

865
01:09:41.800 --> 01:09:44.119
I shut the light off, and
we were going to see what was

866
01:09:44.159 --> 01:09:46.479
going to you know, what it
was going to do. But I'm sure

867
01:09:46.720 --> 01:09:50.760
it was getting away from the light, so it went across and it went

868
01:09:50.920 --> 01:09:55.439
right in the back of the you
know, a little ways in the back

869
01:09:55.439 --> 01:10:00.479
of the van, and so we
shut off the light, waited. We

870
01:10:00.600 --> 01:10:04.439
got a little few pebbles thrown.
Then all of a sudden we hear this

871
01:10:04.800 --> 01:10:12.279
metal drop. It sounded like if
you were to try waist high you were

872
01:10:12.319 --> 01:10:15.800
to take something that was metal and
drop it on a rock. It makes

873
01:10:15.840 --> 01:10:20.000
that ping kind of that metal sound, and we're like, what the heck

874
01:10:20.920 --> 01:10:26.399
is it doing? What is that? So then we get a little concerned

875
01:10:26.560 --> 01:10:29.840
because we didn't want it. Okay, you got to remember that we thought

876
01:10:29.840 --> 01:10:33.319
we got directly hit. It was
a direct hit, no hesitation. That

877
01:10:33.399 --> 01:10:39.039
rock was thrown at the van.
So we're like, okay, what does

878
01:10:39.039 --> 01:10:42.600
this thing happen? Is it going
to throw that at the van too?

879
01:10:43.880 --> 01:10:45.319
I'm thinking this thing is going to
throw it at the van, break our

880
01:10:45.359 --> 01:10:49.960
window or something. Who knows.
So we heard that, We're like,

881
01:10:50.079 --> 01:10:54.800
holy and again this is on the
H two. It's all recorded, and

882
01:10:54.840 --> 01:11:00.479
it's it was weird that it had
something metal, but it makes sense at

883
01:11:00.479 --> 01:11:03.279
the same time if this is a
juvenile it's picking things up, you know,

884
01:11:03.880 --> 01:11:10.119
what is this what is, you
know, And so it dropped on

885
01:11:10.319 --> 01:11:14.760
and obviously dropped on a rock because
it made that kind of metal hitting rock

886
01:11:14.840 --> 01:11:17.680
sound. So we're like, oh, I think it's I think it's time

887
01:11:17.720 --> 01:11:23.920
to go because we don't want this
thing chuck in a piece of metal at

888
01:11:23.920 --> 01:11:27.640
our vehicle, and we ended up
leaving. But the next day Bob and

889
01:11:27.680 --> 01:11:33.359
I went back and we wanted to
see if we could find anything that would

890
01:11:33.760 --> 01:11:39.800
resemble or make that sound. So
we went back and we looked around and

891
01:11:39.880 --> 01:11:45.159
sure enough, we found this broken
gusset plate wow in the area that we

892
01:11:45.239 --> 01:11:49.359
heard it drop, so it obviously
didn't pick it back up, it just

893
01:11:49.479 --> 01:11:55.279
dropped it, and we did we
looked out in the woods in that area

894
01:11:55.359 --> 01:11:59.920
to see if there was anything else
out there that it could have been,

895
01:12:00.520 --> 01:12:03.560
but it was right in the exact
spot that we heard it drop. So

896
01:12:03.600 --> 01:12:08.760
we took it with us, and
we're pretty sure that's what it was that

897
01:12:08.880 --> 01:12:12.880
dropped that it had and dropped on
the rock, so we weren't going to

898
01:12:12.920 --> 01:12:16.479
stand under and stay around and have
the same chuck whatever metal piece that we

899
01:12:16.560 --> 01:12:23.399
didn't know at the time at our
van. So that was pretty interesting and

900
01:12:23.439 --> 01:12:27.760
we've had gosh, so many things
happen there. We've pulled into that area

901
01:12:28.199 --> 01:12:31.920
where we will pull in and start
to back up. We'll pull in that

902
01:12:31.960 --> 01:12:36.199
fire that kind of little fire road
and then back the van up and had

903
01:12:36.319 --> 01:12:41.439
had it back out when one one
night, as we were pulling in,

904
01:12:42.079 --> 01:12:45.680
I saw Bob's pulling in. He's
not paying attention to the front. What's

905
01:12:45.680 --> 01:12:50.359
out there? I'm watching up front
and I could see this eyeshine out there

906
01:12:51.399 --> 01:12:56.720
that was looking straight at the car
and then bolted and it was up.

907
01:12:56.840 --> 01:13:00.840
It wasn't low, it wasn't an
animal, it was human high, and

908
01:13:00.880 --> 01:13:04.600
it just it looked at the vehicle
and then turned and bolted. You could

909
01:13:04.640 --> 01:13:09.880
see the eyes and then you could
see him turn. The eyes just gone.

910
01:13:10.039 --> 01:13:12.760
It was gone. I said,
did you see that? He said,

911
01:13:12.840 --> 01:13:15.640
no, what did you see?
I said, Oh, my gosh,

912
01:13:15.720 --> 01:13:19.319
it was just right there. So
that was pretty cool too. And

913
01:13:19.359 --> 01:13:24.479
then we started to or we went. I think that was during the pandemic,

914
01:13:25.600 --> 01:13:30.319
when the pandemic happened. I had
broken my leg on March fifteenth.

915
01:13:31.199 --> 01:13:36.119
I remember that because I was teaching
at the time and I had a break

916
01:13:36.119 --> 01:13:40.920
after that, not a break,
yes, it broke my leg, but

917
01:13:41.000 --> 01:13:46.399
I had a span of time between
my next teaching and so we and then

918
01:13:46.520 --> 01:13:49.279
it was a week later, I
think it was about a week later when

919
01:13:49.279 --> 01:13:55.439
the whole country shut down and my
husband was furloughed. So he was actually

920
01:13:55.520 --> 01:13:58.239
he was furloughed or he was told
not to come back. I was the

921
01:13:58.319 --> 01:14:00.840
end of that week. It was
that Friday he was told not to come

922
01:14:00.880 --> 01:14:06.119
back with somebody at his work had
COVID and they were in the hospital not

923
01:14:06.239 --> 01:14:12.319
doing well. So they had to
clean the whole place that he worked at.

924
01:14:12.560 --> 01:14:15.600
So they said you can't come in
until Sunday night and then and then

925
01:14:15.640 --> 01:14:19.199
the country basically shut down. They
said everybody's going to go on furlough,

926
01:14:19.840 --> 01:14:26.520
so we obviously I couldn't do anything. He was on he was furloughed.

927
01:14:27.039 --> 01:14:31.359
I think I took another week to
recover, and then we were out there

928
01:14:31.399 --> 01:14:38.319
in the same research area doing a
lot of research. Nobody was out there.

929
01:14:38.319 --> 01:14:42.439
Weren't planes, there weren't cars,
there were any there was nothing out

930
01:14:42.439 --> 01:14:45.239
there. It was so nice and
quiet. It's just it was great.

931
01:14:45.840 --> 01:14:53.560
During that time. We noticed and
remember we have been there at this point

932
01:14:53.840 --> 01:14:58.640
fifteen years. For fifteen years,
Yeah, I think we're going on seventeen

933
01:14:58.720 --> 01:15:04.159
years of research, so it was
about fifteen years and we know the area.

934
01:15:04.960 --> 01:15:11.560
We know if these creatures, these
bigfoot, they know our vehicle.

935
01:15:12.000 --> 01:15:15.800
Anytime we took anybody out with us
that like we did during the pandemic,

936
01:15:16.239 --> 01:15:19.880
they were in a different vehicle.
We didn't stay in the same vehicle.

937
01:15:20.000 --> 01:15:23.359
Bob and I would be one,
they would be in there. They would

938
01:15:23.359 --> 01:15:27.680
be in their vehicle and we would
have walkies to communicate back and forth.

939
01:15:28.000 --> 01:15:30.399
They would have an H two so
they can hear everything. We gave everybody

940
01:15:30.439 --> 01:15:36.720
whatever their own H two and we
would listen. We also bought amplifiers for

941
01:15:36.760 --> 01:15:41.039
the H twos as if we didn't
hear enough as it was. Now we're

942
01:15:41.079 --> 01:15:45.119
really amplified and we can hear everything. We can hear. I can hear

943
01:15:45.119 --> 01:16:05.800
Bob's stomach growling big for society will
be right back after these messages. So

944
01:16:05.840 --> 01:16:12.880
that's how sensitive they are. We're
out there and we anytime we brought anybody

945
01:16:12.920 --> 01:16:16.960
in a different car, their car
would get pinged with pebbles. During the

946
01:16:17.039 --> 01:16:23.239
pandemic, they would just throw these
anytime anybody. It didn't matter who it

947
01:16:23.319 --> 01:16:26.359
was, didn't matter if Fred came
out with us a guy that was talking

948
01:16:26.399 --> 01:16:29.800
about before there was another guy that
came out with us in their own car.

949
01:16:30.079 --> 01:16:33.199
They were getting pinged. We didn't
get the little pebbles thrown at us.

950
01:16:33.279 --> 01:16:36.880
They were getting pebbles thrown at them. So they know our vehicle.

951
01:16:39.800 --> 01:16:44.720
It's the norm for them for us
to come out. They see us all

952
01:16:44.760 --> 01:16:47.039
the time. We bring the same
vehicle. They hear our voices. They

953
01:16:48.119 --> 01:16:54.600
know who I think anyway, I
think they know who we are. So

954
01:16:54.920 --> 01:16:59.079
anything that's different, they're going to
be what's this all about? And sometimes

955
01:16:59.079 --> 01:17:01.920
they don't get going for a little
while before that happens. But at any

956
01:17:01.960 --> 01:17:05.800
rate, during the pandemic, Bob
and I noticed that there there was a

957
01:17:05.800 --> 01:17:11.920
little more activity around us, and
it didn't appear to be more than one.

958
01:17:12.600 --> 01:17:15.960
It seemed like it was like a
century. So we're like, wow,

959
01:17:16.000 --> 01:17:19.720
this is so weird because this usually
doesn't happen. Remember I said,

960
01:17:19.840 --> 01:17:25.079
we go out there and sometimes here
a lot of times there's nothing going on.

961
01:17:25.640 --> 01:17:30.359
Sometimes it is so quiet that it's
deafening. And I'd be like,

962
01:17:30.399 --> 01:17:36.680
Bob talk because this was like it's
too quiet. We can't see anything.

963
01:17:36.720 --> 01:17:41.760
It's so black, you know,
we can't hear anything. It's almost like,

964
01:17:41.840 --> 01:17:45.239
well, I got to say something. I mean, there's many times

965
01:17:45.279 --> 01:17:49.239
when there's nothing going on, but
during the pandemic, we noticed that this

966
01:17:49.640 --> 01:17:56.520
what it seemed. And I call
it a century, you know, because

967
01:17:56.560 --> 01:18:00.600
it's around all the time. It's
almost we didn't know at the time why

968
01:18:00.640 --> 01:18:02.960
this was happening, but it would
throw things at us, and it would

969
01:18:03.000 --> 01:18:06.840
walk around and little pebbles, nothing
major, and it would walk around.

970
01:18:06.880 --> 01:18:12.960
We could hear it not and sometimes
it we could close. Sometimes we could

971
01:18:13.039 --> 01:18:17.159
hear as it got close. We
could actually hear the footfalls. We could

972
01:18:17.159 --> 01:18:21.039
hear it step. One time again, this happened several times. One time

973
01:18:21.520 --> 01:18:27.159
really stands out. It's stepped.
We could hear it step and then half

974
01:18:27.159 --> 01:18:30.640
step. It was so cool,
and it was very close to us,

975
01:18:30.680 --> 01:18:35.399
almost in that area where you know
the Louisville hit the tree right clod,

976
01:18:35.520 --> 01:18:41.399
So it was in that area,
and it would get close and we would

977
01:18:41.520 --> 01:18:44.960
just sit there wondering, Okay,
how close is this going to get.

978
01:18:45.119 --> 01:18:47.039
One of these times, we're gonna
we're going to, you know, put

979
01:18:47.079 --> 01:18:50.600
on that light and this thing's going
to be standing in front of us or

980
01:18:50.720 --> 01:18:56.560
on either side of us. So
this was it was getting close to us.

981
01:18:57.079 --> 01:19:00.920
So we were hearing this a lot
when we went out there during the

982
01:19:00.640 --> 01:19:05.359
twenty twenty and nothing was going on. Like I said, you couldn't go

983
01:19:05.439 --> 01:19:12.319
in the state forest. People couldn't. They couldn't camp in this rustic area

984
01:19:12.479 --> 01:19:18.800
because they shut everything down, so
there was no activity. There was nobody

985
01:19:18.880 --> 01:19:25.159
bothering them. And as it was, this area is very remote anyway,

986
01:19:25.680 --> 01:19:28.840
so there's not a whole lot going
on, you know, in there,

987
01:19:28.920 --> 01:19:32.800
other than some people maybe going in
there and doing a little bit of hiking

988
01:19:33.159 --> 01:19:39.640
or you know, something like that, but nothing major. As the time

989
01:19:39.680 --> 01:19:45.840
went on, we also noticed that
it sounded like there was more than one.

990
01:19:45.960 --> 01:19:48.640
It wasn't just a century anymore,
but there was always one of them

991
01:19:48.960 --> 01:19:53.119
really close to us. So it
was like the century. It was still

992
01:19:53.159 --> 01:19:59.119
there, but there was activity going
around going on a little bit further away

993
01:19:59.159 --> 01:20:04.239
from us, and maybe yeah again
not like extremely further away from us.

994
01:20:04.279 --> 01:20:11.760
I'm talking like twenty thirty yards around
us. In that kind of circumference.

995
01:20:12.279 --> 01:20:15.600
We noticed that kind of We noticed
that kind of thing happening in that Baby

996
01:20:15.640 --> 01:20:19.680
Bigfoot. Did I mention the baby
Bigfoot yet? Was that? So this

997
01:20:19.760 --> 01:20:24.520
is different than the juvenile. Then
yes, yeah, I don't know the

998
01:20:24.640 --> 01:20:29.720
baby bigfoot. About the baby bigfoot. Yeah, the baby bigfoot. At

999
01:20:29.840 --> 01:20:33.560
least we thought it was a baby
bigfoot or a very young juvenile bigfoot.

1000
01:20:34.239 --> 01:20:42.680
We went there again, same exact
location, did the same routine, and

1001
01:20:42.960 --> 01:20:45.880
as soon as we got there,
we could hear something moving around, and

1002
01:20:45.960 --> 01:20:50.439
I said, Bob, I think
there's more than one. I can hear

1003
01:20:50.560 --> 01:20:56.319
things in different locations. You can
hear it, you know how that goes.

1004
01:20:56.600 --> 01:21:00.000
You hear something to your right,
you hear something to your life,

1005
01:21:00.520 --> 01:21:04.399
off to the diagonal, maybe directly
across from you. You can hear different

1006
01:21:04.439 --> 01:21:08.760
things. And I said, hmm, it sounds like there's more than one

1007
01:21:08.800 --> 01:21:13.760
out there. So we're listening to
all of that. It would get close,

1008
01:21:14.039 --> 01:21:15.800
and it would get farther away,
and when it got close, I

1009
01:21:15.920 --> 01:21:21.479
told Bob, light us up.
And this happened several times. It would

1010
01:21:21.560 --> 01:21:25.279
get really close to us, and
he said, but it sounded like it

1011
01:21:25.319 --> 01:21:30.159
was close to us anyway. I
think it was staying within a distance where

1012
01:21:30.199 --> 01:21:34.399
it couldn't be seen. And I
don't know about about you, but and

1013
01:21:34.520 --> 01:21:39.439
how you feel about this, but
there are people who think there are some

1014
01:21:39.560 --> 01:21:43.800
people who think that they don't get
on all fours. There are other people

1015
01:21:43.800 --> 01:21:48.640
who've seen them on all fours running. There are other people who've seen them

1016
01:21:48.680 --> 01:21:54.439
do the spider crawl, which I
think if I I think, if I

1017
01:21:54.479 --> 01:21:59.760
saw that, I would not go
back into the woods. It would be

1018
01:22:00.159 --> 01:22:03.640
that is creepy. That is I
don't know. I don't know. I'm

1019
01:22:03.760 --> 01:22:09.560
like hardcore boog Foot, but dang, that's like an Oklahoma Texas. A

1020
01:22:09.600 --> 01:22:15.399
lot of times I hear those out
there. I don't know. I don't

1021
01:22:15.439 --> 01:22:17.920
know if I could go back out
if I saw that. That is just

1022
01:22:17.960 --> 01:22:21.039
too much. I think that's too
much for my brain. I don't think

1023
01:22:21.039 --> 01:22:25.319
I could. I had have nightmares
and I go out there all the time,

1024
01:22:25.760 --> 01:22:29.880
and we go out in the woods
no protection. And I've said this

1025
01:22:29.960 --> 01:22:31.800
to Bob before, what do we
do? And I had to talk one

1026
01:22:31.800 --> 01:22:35.319
time at there one of the libraries. I said, somebody asked me a

1027
01:22:35.399 --> 01:22:40.239
question referring to something like that.
I said, you know what, there's

1028
01:22:40.319 --> 01:22:44.560
nothing you can do. You just
curl up into a little ball and kiss

1029
01:22:44.560 --> 01:22:48.880
your buckbye, because there's nothing you
can do if they decide to go after

1030
01:22:48.960 --> 01:22:55.199
you. Nothing, there's there's you
have no defense. So unless you have

1031
01:22:55.199 --> 01:22:59.279
an elephant gun or something, I
don't know sure, but there's nothing that

1032
01:22:59.399 --> 01:23:02.600
you can do. And let me
tell you, it gets a little creepy

1033
01:23:02.600 --> 01:23:05.159
out there, and I don't think
I could. If I saw a spider

1034
01:23:05.159 --> 01:23:09.079
crawl, I don't know, it
would be terrible, but it'd be cool,

1035
01:23:09.119 --> 01:23:12.359
but it would also give you nightmares
first. Yeah, no, but

1036
01:23:12.520 --> 01:23:16.439
at any rate, this we're hearing
this, And I scanned the area.

1037
01:23:16.680 --> 01:23:19.600
I said, Bob, light us
up. It starts to get close,

1038
01:23:19.800 --> 01:23:23.680
light us up, because I want
to see it. If it's going to

1039
01:23:23.680 --> 01:23:27.279
get close, I want to see
it or that close. Anyway, when

1040
01:23:27.319 --> 01:23:31.039
we first got there, I scanned
from left to right the area. Bob

1041
01:23:31.520 --> 01:23:35.680
I gave him the flashlight. He
scans around his area. So while I

1042
01:23:35.800 --> 01:23:41.920
was scanning left to right again,
this is almost the same distance as the

1043
01:23:42.279 --> 01:23:45.520
bluff charge. It was about thirty
feet away from our car. The only

1044
01:23:45.560 --> 01:23:51.479
difference was it was thirty feet from
the passenger's side rear quarter panel, so

1045
01:23:51.560 --> 01:23:58.640
that's where the diagonal area was.
But it was again very close to us.

1046
01:23:58.840 --> 01:24:01.319
So there were two trees there and
a rock in the middle of the

1047
01:24:01.359 --> 01:24:09.399
two trees. The rock probably was
about maybe three maybe I want to say

1048
01:24:09.399 --> 01:24:14.039
three feet high, possibly a little
bit higher than that. But it was

1049
01:24:14.079 --> 01:24:16.720
in between, like I said,
the two trees. And so I'm scanning

1050
01:24:17.239 --> 01:24:20.800
left right when we first get there, and I see a little reflection,

1051
01:24:21.600 --> 01:24:25.920
almost like an eye shine. And
it was a reflection, and it had

1052
01:24:26.079 --> 01:24:30.199
rained earlier that day, so it
could have been water, I thought,

1053
01:24:30.239 --> 01:24:32.199
and I didn't tell Bob at that
time. I said, it could be

1054
01:24:32.359 --> 01:24:38.439
maybe water on a leaf or something
like that that's reflecting. So I didn't

1055
01:24:38.479 --> 01:24:42.680
think too much of it at the
time. And then I scanned back till

1056
01:24:42.720 --> 01:24:46.000
left, and then I shut the
flashlight off and we just listened, and

1057
01:24:46.319 --> 01:24:50.840
like I said, I could hear
a couple things in different directions, so

1058
01:24:50.880 --> 01:24:54.800
we're just listening. It got a
little close, and I said, okay,

1059
01:24:54.880 --> 01:24:59.399
light us up, took the flashlight
back up, started scanning again,

1060
01:25:00.159 --> 01:25:03.119
scanned over to that same tree and
rock area, and I didn't see that

1061
01:25:03.640 --> 01:25:09.520
reflection anymore. I was like,
okay, maybe, you know, I

1062
01:25:09.560 --> 01:25:13.840
don't know, maybe it was an
little animal and was there and then it

1063
01:25:13.920 --> 01:25:16.960
just left. Maybe it was,
you know, I don't know what it

1064
01:25:17.000 --> 01:25:23.520
was, but it wasn't there.
So then again shut everything off and we're

1065
01:25:23.560 --> 01:25:29.359
listening again, and we can hear
We still can hear this. Every a

1066
01:25:29.359 --> 01:25:32.840
little bit of span of time,
we could hear something moving around, and

1067
01:25:32.880 --> 01:25:38.159
then it would get close again,
and I do the same thing. It

1068
01:25:38.199 --> 01:25:41.159
was like every i don't know,
ten to fifteen minutes, I'm like,

1069
01:25:41.199 --> 01:25:44.319
okay, it seemed light us up. This thing is getting close again.

1070
01:25:45.079 --> 01:25:49.039
So I took the fultult out again
and I scanned and off in the distance

1071
01:25:49.800 --> 01:25:56.279
further away. It was probably about
maybe fifteen twenty yards from our vehicle.

1072
01:25:56.960 --> 01:26:00.159
In the woods. I saw some
kind of eye shine out there, and

1073
01:26:00.199 --> 01:26:05.119
I was like, now, there's
no reflectors. Okay, there's nothing on

1074
01:26:05.159 --> 01:26:12.359
the trees out there. We've been
there a million times. There's nothing on

1075
01:26:12.399 --> 01:26:17.199
the trees, no reflectors or anything. I know that what I'm seeing is

1076
01:26:18.319 --> 01:26:23.439
something new. It's not you know, I've never seen before, and I'm

1077
01:26:23.479 --> 01:26:29.159
always looking in that direction. So
I see something in between the leaves on

1078
01:26:29.279 --> 01:26:31.119
the trees, and I'm like,
hmm, I wonder what that is.

1079
01:26:31.479 --> 01:26:34.760
Could be an animal, maybe up
in the tree. I don't know.

1080
01:26:35.520 --> 01:26:40.119
I didn't really give it a whole
lot of thought. You always have that

1081
01:26:40.239 --> 01:26:45.840
kind of wonder, but I dismissed
it, and then shut the lights off

1082
01:26:45.880 --> 01:26:48.279
again. And I did go back
to I think I went back to the

1083
01:26:48.359 --> 01:26:51.800
tree again, the rock tree,
as I'm scanning left to right, and

1084
01:26:51.880 --> 01:26:56.760
I didn't see anything, so shut
the lights off again and again. And

1085
01:26:56.880 --> 01:27:01.720
this happened like several times within the
space of an hour, maybe a little

1086
01:27:01.800 --> 01:27:06.640
more than an hour. And again
something's getting close. Turn on the lights

1087
01:27:06.720 --> 01:27:11.239
and it was. It was.
It was less of a time frame,

1088
01:27:12.079 --> 01:27:15.239
So start to scan back left her
and I go back to that tree again,

1089
01:27:15.359 --> 01:27:19.079
and when you know it, that
eye shine is there again. That

1090
01:27:19.239 --> 01:27:26.840
reflection or reflective whatever it is was
there again. And I said, huh.

1091
01:27:26.920 --> 01:27:30.319
And I said, Bob, there's
when we first got That's when I

1092
01:27:30.319 --> 01:27:32.439
explained to him. I said,
when we first got here, I saw

1093
01:27:33.119 --> 01:27:40.359
some kind of a reflection, something
that was reflective over by those trees in

1094
01:27:40.359 --> 01:27:44.640
that rock and then it was gone. So I didn't think anything of it.

1095
01:27:45.000 --> 01:27:48.239
I said, now it's back and
it's in the same exact spot.

1096
01:27:48.319 --> 01:27:51.279
He goes, what do you see. I said, I don't know what

1097
01:27:51.359 --> 01:27:56.359
I see. It's I don't know
it's something. He goes, what is

1098
01:27:56.399 --> 01:28:00.359
it doing. I said, it's
just staring at the light. I could

1099
01:28:00.439 --> 01:28:06.359
just see one eye over this between
those two trees favoring. If I was

1100
01:28:06.439 --> 01:28:11.760
to look at it, it was
favoring the right side of those two trees,

1101
01:28:11.800 --> 01:28:15.079
so the right tree and in between, like I said, was that

1102
01:28:15.239 --> 01:28:20.359
rock. So it's the eyeshine is
coming out by the right tree. And

1103
01:28:20.399 --> 01:28:25.119
I'm like, ah, what the
heck is that in this It's in the

1104
01:28:25.199 --> 01:28:28.520
same exact spot. What are the
odds of that happening? If it was

1105
01:28:28.560 --> 01:28:31.720
an animal, it would have been
gone long forty five minutes ago. I

1106
01:28:31.720 --> 01:28:36.199
didn't see it. I saw it
the first time, then it was gone.

1107
01:28:36.760 --> 01:28:41.560
Then now I'm seeing it again and
it's in the exact same space a

1108
01:28:42.000 --> 01:28:46.880
spot, and I was trying to
look again. He's in the driver's seat.

1109
01:28:47.479 --> 01:28:53.439
It's on my side, like I
said, the rear quarter panel diagonal

1110
01:28:53.520 --> 01:28:57.359
to that. He can't even he
can't see it because that whole side of

1111
01:28:57.399 --> 01:29:02.039
the van is, you know,
blocking him from seeing it. So he's

1112
01:29:02.199 --> 01:29:06.159
he So I'm giving him a play
by play pretty much, and he said,

1113
01:29:06.479 --> 01:29:10.239
what is it doing. I said, it's just staring at the light.

1114
01:29:10.560 --> 01:29:15.079
Now, I had this beam on
this for almost five minutes. Okay,

1115
01:29:15.119 --> 01:29:17.680
So we're at the beginning of this
five minutes when I saw it again,

1116
01:29:18.079 --> 01:29:26.439
this high powered beam is just reflecting
or just pointing to that area,

1117
01:29:27.079 --> 01:29:32.479
and I'm looking, what is that
all of a sudden goes behind the tree,

1118
01:29:32.920 --> 01:29:39.640
slowly goes behind the tree. And
the color of the eyeshine and it

1119
01:29:40.239 --> 01:29:44.439
was round, but it was smaller. It wasn't it wasn't adult size.

1120
01:29:44.600 --> 01:29:47.359
It was smaller, and it had
that that amber color, but it was

1121
01:29:47.439 --> 01:29:54.159
a little bit lighter. It wasn't
as dark as I saw the bluff charge

1122
01:29:54.439 --> 01:29:58.359
one. It was a little bit
lighter and it was smaller. And so

1123
01:29:58.760 --> 01:30:03.000
probably the size if I were to
gauge it with a coin, maybe a

1124
01:30:03.000 --> 01:30:10.479
little like a quarter size maybe.
And so I'm watching it and it's it

1125
01:30:10.520 --> 01:30:14.760
goes behind the tree, slowly goes
behind that right tree. I'm like,

1126
01:30:14.880 --> 01:30:17.159
oh my gosh, it just disappeared. He goes, what do you mean.

1127
01:30:17.279 --> 01:30:21.840
I said, it's gone. It
just went behind the tree, Okay.

1128
01:30:23.000 --> 01:30:26.199
And then it comes back. I
said, it's there again. It's

1129
01:30:26.239 --> 01:30:30.279
there, because it comes back out
again one eye. It's like it's peeking

1130
01:30:30.600 --> 01:30:32.399
on the other side of that tree. I'm like, oh my gosh,

1131
01:30:32.399 --> 01:30:35.359
it's back. It's there again.
What does it do, and I said,

1132
01:30:35.359 --> 01:30:41.000
it's just staring. It's just like
staring at us, staring at the

1133
01:30:41.039 --> 01:30:45.920
beam. I don't probably like it's
curiosity probably got the best of it.

1134
01:30:45.520 --> 01:31:06.319
Big for society will be right back
after these messages, which is watching goes

1135
01:31:06.359 --> 01:31:12.000
back again and now it's gone.
I'm like, what are you commentator over

1136
01:31:12.000 --> 01:31:15.920
here? Watch this here it is
now it's gone. Here. It is

1137
01:31:15.359 --> 01:31:20.920
back and forth and then it comes
out in their two eyes this time,

1138
01:31:21.760 --> 01:31:26.520
and it's just staring at us,
staring at the beam. I'm sure it

1139
01:31:26.560 --> 01:31:30.840
can't see me with this beam in
its face its eyes. Maybe it could,

1140
01:31:30.880 --> 01:31:34.199
I don't know, but it definitely
knows that we're there. It can

1141
01:31:34.279 --> 01:31:41.479
hear us. That's pretty obvious.
And I'm practically hanging out the window watching

1142
01:31:41.560 --> 01:31:45.680
this thing, fascinated by it,
wouldn't you know? Okay, this is

1143
01:31:45.680 --> 01:31:49.800
the second I think this was the
second time we had brought the night vision

1144
01:31:50.520 --> 01:31:56.920
night vision binoculars out with us.
It was sitting right next to me,

1145
01:31:57.720 --> 01:32:03.079
and I did not get it because
I was so this is like a rookie

1146
01:32:03.199 --> 01:32:08.840
mistake, right, I'm like,
hey, what was I thinking? But

1147
01:32:09.000 --> 01:32:12.960
again, in my defense, it
was only it was second time we only

1148
01:32:13.000 --> 01:32:15.880
had it out, so I wasn't
used to it yet. I wasn't used

1149
01:32:15.880 --> 01:32:18.039
to having it, but this was
more. I was like, I didn't

1150
01:32:18.079 --> 01:32:21.560
want to take my eyes off this
thing for one thing. And I was

1151
01:32:21.640 --> 01:32:26.399
just I was fascinated by it.
And I'm like this, I wonder if

1152
01:32:26.439 --> 01:32:30.880
this is a juvenile. It's just
it's small. It wasn't when it was

1153
01:32:30.920 --> 01:32:35.000
coming. It was just over that
boulder, that little rock that was there

1154
01:32:35.039 --> 01:32:39.640
between the two trees. So it
wasn't very high, and I don't know

1155
01:32:39.640 --> 01:32:41.880
how tall it was. Maybe it
was sitting down. I don't know,

1156
01:32:42.960 --> 01:32:45.800
but I'm like, oh my gosh, this is And then it goes behind

1157
01:32:45.840 --> 01:32:51.560
the tree again. I'm like,
what the heck? And so we during

1158
01:32:51.600 --> 01:32:56.760
this time, so we're heading now
to the almost five minute mark with this

1159
01:32:57.439 --> 01:33:00.760
beam of light on this thing.
That whole entire time, I didn't shut

1160
01:33:00.800 --> 01:33:02.640
the light off. I didn't I
didn't move it. It was right there,

1161
01:33:02.920 --> 01:33:09.239
this thing coming back and forth behind
the tree and stuff and there.

1162
01:33:10.119 --> 01:33:15.680
We didn't know this until after we
listened to the H two when we got

1163
01:33:15.680 --> 01:33:23.239
home, that there was a pretty
good size branch was broken. Oh wow.

1164
01:33:23.359 --> 01:33:28.760
While we were watching this thing,
neither one of us heard it because

1165
01:33:28.760 --> 01:33:34.560
we were so fixated and mesmerized by
what was going on that we weren't listening.

1166
01:33:34.640 --> 01:33:39.439
We didn't hear any of that.
We didn't hear that branch break.

1167
01:33:40.560 --> 01:33:47.079
Then probably it was probably a few
minutes from that branch break according to the

1168
01:33:47.279 --> 01:33:57.239
recording that we there was a significant
branch that was broken. This thing sounded

1169
01:33:57.279 --> 01:34:02.119
like a little tree, and we
heard that that. We definitely heard about.

1170
01:34:02.399 --> 01:34:05.560
What the heck he said? I
don't know. So we're thinking that

1171
01:34:05.600 --> 01:34:13.800
maybe Lis juvenile was placed there to
stay there while the parents were forging whatever

1172
01:34:13.840 --> 01:34:19.079
they do, because again we heard
two different areas where things were happening,

1173
01:34:19.960 --> 01:34:28.199
and were the parents there was this
that situation where Lis juvenile was there.

1174
01:34:28.720 --> 01:34:32.359
Because I think I told you this
before. Deer will do that right.

1175
01:34:32.479 --> 01:34:39.600
They'll take their baby, their fond
and they'll put it in a place where

1176
01:34:39.600 --> 01:34:45.640
it's secure and covered and camouflaged,
and it stays there, it doesn't move,

1177
01:34:45.760 --> 01:34:50.039
and the mother will go out foraging
and the little faun will stay there

1178
01:34:50.399 --> 01:34:56.880
until the mother comes back. Unless
it's in this dire situation where it's going

1179
01:34:56.920 --> 01:34:59.680
to be attacked or something, then
I'm sure we'd get up it. Probably

1180
01:34:59.680 --> 01:35:02.640
wouldn't live anyway. But it doesn't
move. You could walk by it and

1181
01:35:02.720 --> 01:35:08.239
wouldn't move. And that's what happened. That's what the deer do. Do

1182
01:35:08.319 --> 01:35:11.439
the bigfoot do that do? They
say, Okay, junior, you stay

1183
01:35:11.479 --> 01:35:16.359
right here, don't move, don't
do anything, We'll be back. I'm

1184
01:35:16.439 --> 01:35:21.840
paraphrasing. But I didn't get move. It stayed right there. And when

1185
01:35:21.880 --> 01:35:27.800
that branch, that big branch broke, man, we were like Bob's Okay,

1186
01:35:28.239 --> 01:35:32.880
they are not happy with this light
on their on their juvenile I think

1187
01:35:32.880 --> 01:35:38.000
we better go. So I of
course I didn't want to leave, but

1188
01:35:38.800 --> 01:35:43.920
I didn't want them to get upset
either. If this is their their baby,

1189
01:35:44.039 --> 01:35:46.079
I don't want it. I don't
want to stress them out. So

1190
01:35:47.079 --> 01:35:50.359
we end up. He we ended
up. He's ended up starting the car

1191
01:35:50.439 --> 01:35:56.439
and as we were leaving, I'm
still watching. I'm out the window beam

1192
01:35:56.560 --> 01:36:00.760
is still on this thing, and
as we're leaving, it comes out again,

1193
01:36:01.359 --> 01:36:04.640
full full, and I think it
stood up. It wasn't that tall,

1194
01:36:05.000 --> 01:36:09.520
but it was higher than it was
before. And I could see the

1195
01:36:09.560 --> 01:36:13.560
two little eyes, you know,
watching us as we left. Wow.

1196
01:36:13.720 --> 01:36:16.640
So that was very cool. If
that was the scenario, that was.

1197
01:36:16.760 --> 01:36:19.680
I can't imagine what else it would
have been. You know, if anybody

1198
01:36:19.720 --> 01:36:25.359
else comes up with something different,
I'd love to hear that that explanation.

1199
01:36:25.520 --> 01:36:31.159
But that's absolutely wild that a stuff
you have going on in that research area

1200
01:36:31.439 --> 01:36:38.239
is just incredible, Norma, And
thank you for sharing your what has happened

1201
01:36:38.279 --> 01:36:41.920
to you guys so far in that
area? Yeah, this is this has

1202
01:36:41.960 --> 01:36:46.199
been. Yeah, it's been an
ongoing And then we moved to Connecticut.

1203
01:36:46.199 --> 01:36:51.000
We still go back there, but
we're in a different area now and we

1204
01:36:51.039 --> 01:36:56.399
didn't know anything about this area,
but we got permission to go on to

1205
01:36:56.600 --> 01:37:03.760
private land that also has a protected
section of the woods that you can't hunt

1206
01:37:03.760 --> 01:37:10.680
on or anything like that, miles
and miles and acres of just forest.

1207
01:37:10.880 --> 01:37:15.039
And we've had some pretty incredible things
happen there as well. And I went

1208
01:37:15.079 --> 01:37:21.359
into it very doubtful. I didn't
know if only because the owner told us

1209
01:37:21.600 --> 01:37:26.479
some quirky things that were going on
there, and we told them that we

1210
01:37:26.520 --> 01:37:30.119
were big for researchers and would you
mind if we came out here? He

1211
01:37:30.199 --> 01:37:32.840
said, yeah, I don't care, but you're crazy. We're like,

1212
01:37:33.000 --> 01:37:40.079
yeah, tell us something we don't
know, but I'll just one. We've

1213
01:37:40.119 --> 01:37:43.960
had some incredible things happen here.
Now, this is a place where nobody

1214
01:37:44.000 --> 01:37:47.680
goes to do this kind of research. This is all private. It's private.

1215
01:37:48.279 --> 01:37:53.800
His land is all private. There
are people that go out into like

1216
01:37:53.840 --> 01:37:58.319
on four wheelers and things like that, but his area, like I said,

1217
01:37:58.720 --> 01:38:00.760
is private, but you have access
that road if you want to take

1218
01:38:00.840 --> 01:38:04.039
four wheelers out, and we've done
that. Tom and I have gone out

1219
01:38:04.079 --> 01:38:08.680
there. We've also gone out there
and walked why. I don't know,

1220
01:38:09.319 --> 01:38:15.239
but especially after what's what happened to
us? Do you remember that movie?

1221
01:38:15.560 --> 01:38:19.640
It's a classic Princess Bride. Yeah, that's a classic eighties movie, totally.

1222
01:38:19.680 --> 01:38:24.039
Yeah. Yeah, Andrea the Giant
was in that movie, right,

1223
01:38:24.680 --> 01:38:30.119
Andrea the Giant, Yes, yes, And you have the dread pirate Roberts,

1224
01:38:30.119 --> 01:38:34.119
and you have the other this the
Spanish guy and whatever. Yeah,

1225
01:38:34.359 --> 01:38:38.359
and one of you got to look
this up to and maybe some of your

1226
01:38:38.399 --> 01:38:45.000
listeners can get you can look it
up, especially specifically this one part where

1227
01:38:45.880 --> 01:38:48.960
Andrea the Giant is off he's off
screen so you can't see him. The

1228
01:38:49.840 --> 01:38:56.399
pirate guy is running toward this huge
boulder, yeah, right, just him,

1229
01:38:56.640 --> 01:38:59.760
and he's running toward this huge boulder, and you're just gonna sit in

1230
01:38:59.800 --> 01:39:03.039
there watching. All of a sudden, Andre the Giant, well it's supposed

1231
01:39:03.079 --> 01:39:09.920
to be him anyway, Peasick.
He throws that big rock and hits that

1232
01:39:10.000 --> 01:39:13.520
boulder. Scares the heck out of
you because you're not expecting it when you're

1233
01:39:13.520 --> 01:39:16.680
watching the movie, especially the first
time. Right, But he throws that

1234
01:39:16.800 --> 01:39:21.199
rock and it hits that boulder and
splinters, right, it just breaks into

1235
01:39:21.279 --> 01:39:27.119
a million pieces and just misses that
pirate guy's head. We were out there

1236
01:39:27.119 --> 01:39:30.720
one night a friend of ours,
a friend of ours from New York had

1237
01:39:30.720 --> 01:39:35.520
come down and she was she's also
into Bigfoot, and we were telling her

1238
01:39:35.560 --> 01:39:40.800
some of the stuff that was going
on here in Connecticut, and she came

1239
01:39:40.840 --> 01:39:44.079
out with us one night. We're
sitting there and we heard, we heard,

1240
01:39:44.239 --> 01:39:47.199
you know, a few things here
and there, but nothing really major.

1241
01:39:47.880 --> 01:39:51.319
Started off like it was going to
be a good night. And then

1242
01:39:51.359 --> 01:39:56.479
because we had been there prior to
that and had crazy stuff happen. But

1243
01:39:56.720 --> 01:40:00.840
this particular night when she was with
us, what we usually do when we

1244
01:40:00.920 --> 01:40:05.319
go to this guy's property is there's
a lot of rocks here. I don't

1245
01:40:05.359 --> 01:40:11.600
know, there's just just tons and
tons of rocks and boulders and things that

1246
01:40:11.640 --> 01:40:15.079
are in the ground. There's tons
of rocks here. So up in his

1247
01:40:15.279 --> 01:40:20.600
area, he because there's so many
rocks, he borders part of that road.

1248
01:40:21.079 --> 01:40:24.680
You go to this road at dead
ends and then if you go to

1249
01:40:24.720 --> 01:40:28.000
the right, if you go follow
that road and it goes to his house.

1250
01:40:28.720 --> 01:40:33.600
So we're far enough away from the
house where you're accessing that road to

1251
01:40:33.680 --> 01:40:38.079
go four wheeling. But we go
in there, we back up, and

1252
01:40:38.159 --> 01:40:43.800
we back up to this boulder that's
there. That's about I'm five five and

1253
01:40:43.840 --> 01:40:49.479
a half, so it's probably about
up to my collarbone, just below my

1254
01:40:49.560 --> 01:40:56.159
neck, and it's probably about four
feet wide. It's a pretty it's a

1255
01:40:56.159 --> 01:41:00.199
pretty good sized boulder. So what
we usually do is we'll back up just

1256
01:41:00.279 --> 01:41:02.600
in front of that boulder, and
again we're heading out. So we're there

1257
01:41:02.680 --> 01:41:06.840
one night, this particular night,
it starts off really good and then it

1258
01:41:06.920 --> 01:41:11.439
kind of peters. There's nothing going
on, and we're just going to talk,

1259
01:41:11.479 --> 01:41:15.199
and then we're listening and Bob said, Okay, how long do you

1260
01:41:15.239 --> 01:41:17.159
want to how long do you guys
want to stay out? It's about three

1261
01:41:17.319 --> 01:41:21.640
thirty when he says this, and
We're like, Bob is It's like,

1262
01:41:21.640 --> 01:41:26.840
all right, Bob, Bob,
it's norma, oh, come on,

1263
01:41:27.239 --> 01:41:30.119
don't he knows we're staying out until
though, you know, but if there's

1264
01:41:30.159 --> 01:41:33.560
nothing going on, and it's still
the same with me, it's yeah,

1265
01:41:33.560 --> 01:41:38.119
but there could be five more minutes
and there could something could happen, but

1266
01:41:38.119 --> 01:41:42.479
I don't want to leave until done, so at any rate. He's saying

1267
01:41:42.520 --> 01:41:45.039
that to us, how long nothing's
going on, How long you guys want

1268
01:41:45.079 --> 01:41:47.800
to stay? So he said,
ah, we'll give it another half an

1269
01:41:47.800 --> 01:41:53.039
hour, we'll leave it for He's
like all right. So we're again just

1270
01:41:53.239 --> 01:41:59.680
listening to things and we're talking just
no kidding. It was probably five minutes

1271
01:42:00.199 --> 01:42:08.600
to four and this rock comes out
of nowhere and hits that boulder and it

1272
01:42:08.760 --> 01:42:14.560
sounded exactly like that scene in Princess
Bride. It was so yes, it

1273
01:42:14.600 --> 01:42:19.000
was so loud, and you could
even hear pieces of whatever was thrown hit

1274
01:42:19.039 --> 01:42:24.640
the ground. And this is a
dirt, rocky road. It's just to

1275
01:42:24.680 --> 01:42:28.159
get up to where his house is. We don't know how he even survived.

1276
01:42:28.199 --> 01:42:31.159
The cars that or whatever he's driving
survives that. I don't even know

1277
01:42:31.199 --> 01:42:35.760
how my band survives it, but
at any rate, it's just rock and

1278
01:42:35.840 --> 01:42:42.960
dirt. So you can hear the
pieces falling on the ground and we're like

1279
01:42:43.119 --> 01:42:48.920
that was it's It was ridiculous the
power behind that. And this is no

1280
01:42:49.439 --> 01:42:54.279
pebble that it threw against that boulder. It had been a good had to

1281
01:42:54.319 --> 01:43:00.399
be. It had to have been
a good sized rock. It was crazy.

1282
01:43:00.119 --> 01:43:04.359
So of course we're not leaving now. We're not leaving. We're waiting

1283
01:43:04.399 --> 01:43:08.640
to see what else is going to
happen. And it was right. That

1284
01:43:08.680 --> 01:43:13.720
boulder was right behind our vehicle,
so it very easily could have hit us.

1285
01:43:14.239 --> 01:43:17.359
It would have shattered that back window
for sure. So it meant to

1286
01:43:17.560 --> 01:43:24.359
hit that boulder because like I said, it would have definitely would have hit

1287
01:43:24.439 --> 01:43:30.279
us if they wanted to. That
was incredibly loud, and we've had prior

1288
01:43:30.319 --> 01:43:31.960
to that. We've had that cousin
I was talking to you about. He

1289
01:43:32.119 --> 01:43:36.479
had come up or come down to
go out with us because we were telling

1290
01:43:36.560 --> 01:43:43.079
him the stuff that was going on. I it sounded like a tree branch

1291
01:43:43.319 --> 01:43:49.960
went across the top of his car. We've had weird things thrown at us

1292
01:43:50.439 --> 01:43:57.199
that this is not pebbles like the
other place. On occasion at the other

1293
01:43:57.239 --> 01:44:00.279
place in math, we would get
a bigger rock thrown, and you can

1294
01:44:00.319 --> 01:44:04.119
tell the size of a rock when
it hits the ground that it's not a

1295
01:44:04.159 --> 01:44:08.640
pebble. It's just you know that
it's a little bit bigger than that.

1296
01:44:08.960 --> 01:44:13.000
But these this at this place,
they're not throwing little pebbles. They're throwing

1297
01:44:13.079 --> 01:44:17.319
like baseball softball sized rocks toward us
that are hitting the ground. And again

1298
01:44:18.039 --> 01:44:24.279
they're not they're not hitting us,
but they're certainly coming close. And I

1299
01:44:24.319 --> 01:44:29.920
said to Bob Man, this is
this is some serious This is some serious

1300
01:44:30.039 --> 01:44:34.199
business here because they have yeah,
they have not they don't know us.

1301
01:44:34.319 --> 01:44:40.319
When that's a little unnerving because it's
not like the other place. They know

1302
01:44:40.479 --> 01:44:43.720
us, they know our vehicle,
they know we're not going to bother them

1303
01:44:43.760 --> 01:44:47.800
or hurt them or do anything.
These guys don't know that, and they

1304
01:44:47.880 --> 01:44:53.439
are they're all out. They're throwing
I don't even know what, but I

1305
01:44:53.479 --> 01:44:57.840
don't know how it missed us.
And we went and this was happening the

1306
01:44:57.920 --> 01:45:01.479
whole night there we're here where gosh, I can't remember, I think,

1307
01:45:01.760 --> 01:45:06.239
oh often the distance we could hear
prior to this, when the other other

1308
01:45:06.279 --> 01:45:11.600
friend was with us. We could
hear vocalizations off. It was like,

1309
01:45:12.199 --> 01:45:15.319
I don't even know. It was
almost like I don't know what to listen

1310
01:45:15.359 --> 01:45:18.159
to because we can hear it over
here. We can hear it over there.

1311
01:45:18.600 --> 01:45:23.760
Something's walking over here. It was
crazy. That was the first night

1312
01:45:23.840 --> 01:45:26.399
we went out. The second night
it was when that boulder got hit.

1313
01:45:26.880 --> 01:45:29.840
But when we're out with our cousin
the same thing, We're like, what

1314
01:45:29.920 --> 01:45:33.960
the heck is going on? These
things aren't nice. They mean business.

1315
01:45:34.000 --> 01:45:36.560
I don't know what they're going to
do to us, but they mean business.

1316
01:45:36.640 --> 01:45:41.279
Were you fing whoops? Or what
kind of vocalizations were you hearing?

1317
01:45:41.479 --> 01:45:45.640
There? Were like again, similar
to the Ohio, except a little higher

1318
01:45:45.680 --> 01:45:50.279
pitched and longer. Big for society
will be right back. After these messages,

1319
01:46:08.039 --> 01:46:11.600
it was like, it wasn't so
mournful, do you know what I

1320
01:46:11.600 --> 01:46:15.000
mean? The ohios kind of it
sounds a little more mournful. This it's

1321
01:46:15.039 --> 01:46:20.199
not like that, but it's similar. It's hard to describe. And then

1322
01:46:20.279 --> 01:46:26.560
sometimes just yell it, just just
to vocalize it, just yell or something.

1323
01:46:26.800 --> 01:46:30.159
I don't know what the fack they're
doing out there, you know,

1324
01:46:30.640 --> 01:46:33.319
but we can hear, you know, what they're doing. And once again,

1325
01:46:33.520 --> 01:46:35.880
it's all in the AH Too.
Man, you listen to this stuff

1326
01:46:35.920 --> 01:46:39.880
back when you're like, holy cow, and there are some things that you

1327
01:46:40.000 --> 01:46:43.319
don't hear. There was one night, oh the night that we got the

1328
01:46:43.319 --> 01:46:47.479
bluff charge. That tree okay,
that tree was pushed over off in the

1329
01:46:47.520 --> 01:46:51.439
distance, and then we had the
blushed bluff charge. In between. When

1330
01:46:51.439 --> 01:46:56.720
we were listening to the H Too, listening to the back, there was

1331
01:46:57.479 --> 01:47:02.399
this growl that I don't even know
how to explain it. Bob, he

1332
01:47:02.520 --> 01:47:05.800
has sonic hering. Okay, I
turned the TV up one little click and

1333
01:47:05.840 --> 01:47:11.319
he's you're turning the TV up.
He's sleeping. He's got sonic curing.

1334
01:47:11.479 --> 01:47:15.479
And he didn't even hear it.
I don't know what the deal was.

1335
01:47:15.520 --> 01:47:21.159
But when we were listening to that
recording in between, when the tree went

1336
01:47:21.199 --> 01:47:26.720
down in the bluff charge, there
was this growl that was really close to

1337
01:47:26.840 --> 01:47:30.920
us. We heard that on the
H two and we were listening to it

1338
01:47:30.960 --> 01:47:35.319
and we're like, what was that. Wow? We rewound it, we

1339
01:47:35.399 --> 01:47:41.319
listened to it again, we backed
it up again and listened to it again.

1340
01:47:41.439 --> 01:47:45.720
We're like, we didn't even hear
that. We should have heard that

1341
01:47:45.079 --> 01:47:49.439
there was nothing going on so that
we couldn't hear it, or we weren't

1342
01:47:49.520 --> 01:47:54.600
talking or anything like that, because
once that tree went down, we were

1343
01:47:54.600 --> 01:47:59.000
on high alert. We were not
doing anything. We should have heard that,

1344
01:47:59.199 --> 01:48:01.880
and I don't don't know why we
didn't. I don't know if it

1345
01:48:01.920 --> 01:48:09.560
was infrasound, I don't know.
I can't even explain it why we didn't

1346
01:48:09.560 --> 01:48:15.000
hear it. Yeah, these noises
now coming here again, these noises that

1347
01:48:15.039 --> 01:48:21.439
we're hearing, we don't We've heard
similar but we've also heard these different noises

1348
01:48:21.479 --> 01:48:27.079
and then you can hear them walk
walking or going through the woods. There

1349
01:48:27.119 --> 01:48:31.920
was one night that we heard I
think there was only one there. This

1350
01:48:32.079 --> 01:48:36.479
again, this is in Connecticut,
in that same location. There's only it

1351
01:48:36.600 --> 01:48:40.920
sounds like there was just one kind
of hanging around, not really doing a

1352
01:48:40.920 --> 01:48:45.560
whole lot. We get a little
rock thrown every now and again. Then

1353
01:48:45.960 --> 01:48:51.720
a little later on we heard another
one coming toward us. We heard another

1354
01:48:51.800 --> 01:48:59.800
one walking through the woods coming to
that area, and we're like, oh,

1355
01:49:00.279 --> 01:49:01.880
now it's going to begin. Now
the party is going to start.

1356
01:49:02.399 --> 01:49:06.000
This other one's coming in. I
don't know what. We don't know what

1357
01:49:06.079 --> 01:49:11.840
to expect in this area. It's
very I don't know, what did you

1358
01:49:11.880 --> 01:49:16.159
say. Yeah, the owner told
us Bob had gone there and talked to

1359
01:49:16.239 --> 01:49:21.239
him. I don't know, it
was something totally different, but he told

1360
01:49:21.279 --> 01:49:29.560
Bob that a few times on his
front door he would get these slaps,

1361
01:49:29.600 --> 01:49:35.880
like five quick succession slaps on his
door, and it happened. Yeah,

1362
01:49:35.920 --> 01:49:41.560
and it happened. Now he's got
these huge dogs. These dogs, what

1363
01:49:41.680 --> 01:49:46.520
are they? I forget the breed, but they're huge and they're really furry.

1364
01:49:46.960 --> 01:49:55.760
They're not seeing Bernard's Pyrenees or something. Huge dogs. They're very friendly,

1365
01:49:56.239 --> 01:50:00.720
but they stay outside and they're on
his port. These dogs did not

1366
01:50:01.239 --> 01:50:08.359
They were in the far end of
the porch kind of huddled there and they

1367
01:50:08.359 --> 01:50:13.399
didn't do anything. They didn't bark, nothing. And so this happened several

1368
01:50:13.439 --> 01:50:17.640
times, and it happened the last
time it happened when I don't know if

1369
01:50:17.680 --> 01:50:21.600
it's the last time, but when
Bob talked to him, he said it

1370
01:50:21.680 --> 01:50:27.039
happened again, and he said,
okay, First he thought somebody was messing

1371
01:50:27.039 --> 01:50:30.439
with him. Then he because he
would go to the door and he couldn't

1372
01:50:30.439 --> 01:50:33.239
find it. He couldn't see anything. And this was early in the morning

1373
01:50:33.960 --> 01:50:36.760
when he was talking to Bob,
he said, you know when it happened

1374
01:50:38.159 --> 01:50:41.720
that this last time, he said, he got up and went to the

1375
01:50:41.760 --> 01:50:45.560
door, and again nothing. He
couldn't find anything, he could see anything.

1376
01:50:45.199 --> 01:50:50.119
So he has heard things, you
know, he can't he doesn't know

1377
01:50:50.479 --> 01:50:54.600
what it is. And he hears, I'm sure he hears all kinds of

1378
01:50:54.640 --> 01:50:58.640
things out there. He's on a
lake with acres and acres of forrest.

1379
01:50:58.720 --> 01:51:03.920
This it bore the borders Rhode Island. So it's again acres and acres on

1380
01:51:03.960 --> 01:51:09.279
that side, acres and acres on
the side of Connecticut. Just nothing out

1381
01:51:09.279 --> 01:51:11.800
there. Nothing. Bob and I, like I said, we took our

1382
01:51:11.840 --> 01:51:15.760
truck or four wheel drive truck out
there as far as we could go because

1383
01:51:15.760 --> 01:51:21.399
the road is really bad, and
then we walked another mile into there and

1384
01:51:21.439 --> 01:51:28.159
there's nothing out there. Talk about
being vulnerable, we know what's out here,

1385
01:51:28.600 --> 01:51:32.680
and we aren't going out here with
nothing but harsh language because there's nothing

1386
01:51:32.720 --> 01:51:39.880
that's going to protect us if anything
were to come out. So there's nothing

1387
01:51:39.920 --> 01:51:44.079
out there, So what could this
be? And again, with us going

1388
01:51:44.119 --> 01:51:49.680
out there, we have no clue
what these things are capable of or how

1389
01:51:49.720 --> 01:51:55.920
they're going to react each time that
we go there, especially since we've had

1390
01:51:55.960 --> 01:52:01.079
so many things thrown at us that
aren't little missus kind of thing. I

1391
01:52:01.119 --> 01:52:04.439
don't know. I don't know what
to expect. We've been doing this probably

1392
01:52:05.840 --> 01:52:11.319
a year now, so it's going
to be it's going to be interesting to

1393
01:52:11.399 --> 01:52:15.359
go out. We haven't been able
to go out as much as we've wanted

1394
01:52:15.359 --> 01:52:20.439
to because the weather has been horrible. We can't take the H two's out

1395
01:52:21.039 --> 01:52:26.159
in the rain. We can't take
them out if it's windy, because you're

1396
01:52:26.159 --> 01:52:30.920
going to hear wind. You want
to be able to hear everything right that's

1397
01:52:30.960 --> 01:52:34.399
around you. You don't want to
be surprised. So we can't go out

1398
01:52:34.960 --> 01:52:39.479
and not be able to hear.
And yes, the H two will pick

1399
01:52:39.520 --> 01:52:44.039
up things that in between the sounds, but not enough. You've got that

1400
01:52:44.119 --> 01:52:49.159
wind blowing on that microphone. It's
hard to hear if it's rained and you

1401
01:52:49.199 --> 01:52:53.760
go out after the rain, you're
hearing those rain drops are falling off the

1402
01:52:53.800 --> 01:52:58.000
tree, the wind blows a little
bit. You just we don't want to

1403
01:52:58.000 --> 01:53:00.680
be surprised. We want to be
able to hear every everything, not to

1404
01:53:00.720 --> 01:53:05.359
mention you can't. You don't want
your equipment out in rain. So we've

1405
01:53:05.399 --> 01:53:10.600
gone out a couple of times this
winter, but again you can't. It's

1406
01:53:10.640 --> 01:53:15.000
so weather dependent unless you even with
your naked ear going out there. If

1407
01:53:15.039 --> 01:53:20.800
you have tree branches knocking against each
other, squeaking against each other, you

1408
01:53:20.840 --> 01:53:25.439
can't hear what's around you. You
just don't want to be surprised, and

1409
01:53:25.520 --> 01:53:29.279
not just Bigfoot, when you're talking
to any other air or any other animal

1410
01:53:29.359 --> 01:53:32.479
that's out there, you don't want
to come and come into contact with unaware

1411
01:53:33.119 --> 01:53:39.920
or by surprise. So it's been
pretty interesting. So tomorrow night we're going

1412
01:53:39.960 --> 01:53:44.239
out to the mass location. You
oh wow, we haven't. That's right.

1413
01:53:44.279 --> 01:53:48.439
You had told me that before.
Oh man wild. So it's supposed

1414
01:53:48.479 --> 01:53:50.880
to be you know, it's supposed
to be a good night. We've been

1415
01:53:50.880 --> 01:53:57.279
planning this for probably a month,
and we have to keep you know,

1416
01:53:57.479 --> 01:54:00.800
not tomorrow night, I'm sorry,
Friday night we're going out. We had

1417
01:54:00.800 --> 01:54:04.159
to keep we had to keep canceling
because somebody else is coming out with us

1418
01:54:04.239 --> 01:54:10.359
and he's never been out before.
Oh wow, And we can't. You

1419
01:54:10.399 --> 01:54:12.920
can't go out if it's training,
you can't go out. All those things

1420
01:54:12.920 --> 01:54:16.920
that the weather related stuff. So
we've had to cancel. Uh, Friday

1421
01:54:16.920 --> 01:54:20.079
is supposed to be good, so
we're going out for sure, and we

1422
01:54:20.119 --> 01:54:27.560
haven't been there in a while,
so I'm curious to see what what's going

1423
01:54:27.640 --> 01:54:30.399
to happen. It'll be nobody else
goes out there. Yeah, it'll be

1424
01:54:30.399 --> 01:54:34.399
interesting to hear what happens. You
definitely let me know if anything cool happens

1425
01:54:34.479 --> 01:54:40.840
when you go out, fright,
but I will definitely will. This has

1426
01:54:40.880 --> 01:54:47.800
been just a fantastic chat about Worcester
County and Massachusetts and somewhere on the east

1427
01:54:47.840 --> 01:54:53.560
border of Connecticut. You guys are
doing some cool stuff and thank you for

1428
01:54:53.600 --> 01:54:58.680
sharing what you've experienced over the years
you and absolutely thank you for having us

1429
01:54:58.800 --> 01:55:04.439
on that was It's been really fun. I can talk about Bigfoot for hours

1430
01:55:04.840 --> 01:55:10.279
before you go. Is there any
way that people can keep up to date

1431
01:55:10.560 --> 01:55:14.800
with what you're doing with Bigfoot?
Or are you and Bob just in the

1432
01:55:14.840 --> 01:55:17.880
shadows doing your thing? If someone
pulls you into a podcast and that's how

1433
01:55:17.920 --> 01:55:21.720
we get to hear about it basically, Okay, yeah, we don't.

1434
01:55:24.640 --> 01:55:30.159
I don't know, we don't advertise, we don't do YouTube. We just

1435
01:55:30.279 --> 01:55:34.159
keep to ourselves. But I do
have an email if they do want to

1436
01:55:34.199 --> 01:55:39.319
get in touch with me. Okay, anybody wants to ask a question or

1437
01:55:40.000 --> 01:55:45.239
I'm not going to give out the
locations simply because the way that we feel

1438
01:55:45.279 --> 01:55:50.199
about it is we don't want not
everybody's going to be careful. I guess

1439
01:55:50.680 --> 01:55:56.479
maybe is the word. I don't
want anything to happen them. I don't

1440
01:55:56.520 --> 01:56:01.800
want the area to get saturated so
that they they lose their you know,

1441
01:56:01.840 --> 01:56:08.640
the place that they live because this
area, and I'm assuming that the Connecticut

1442
01:56:08.680 --> 01:56:13.439
area is the same, but I
know that mass area we have activity all

1443
01:56:13.520 --> 01:56:18.119
year around. It's probably their base
home area. And I don't want them

1444
01:56:18.159 --> 01:56:21.279
to be pushed out, you know
what I'm saying. Absolutely, we take

1445
01:56:21.279 --> 01:56:27.239
people there that we trust to not
have it. It's almost like you don't

1446
01:56:27.279 --> 01:56:30.760
want anybody to go in there and
ruining it for them or the Bigfoot that

1447
01:56:30.800 --> 01:56:35.319
are there. This new group that
moved in again. The last time we

1448
01:56:35.319 --> 01:56:39.840
were there, they were still there. We haven't been there in a while,

1449
01:56:39.960 --> 01:56:43.359
so I'm curious to see if they
are still there. But I certainly

1450
01:56:43.399 --> 01:56:45.000
don't want to push them out,
and I don't want them to be pushed

1451
01:56:45.039 --> 01:56:48.880
out from that area. They're happy
there. I don't want anything to happen

1452
01:56:48.920 --> 01:56:56.680
to them. That's one of the
reasons why we don't advertise or everybody.

1453
01:56:56.760 --> 01:57:00.640
You can obviously can incognito or there
about or whatever it's in this area,

1454
01:57:00.960 --> 01:57:06.199
but I don't know. It's just
we we're very protective of them and we

1455
01:57:06.239 --> 01:57:11.520
don't want anything happened. Now,
the Connecticut ones, that's a whole difference.

1456
01:57:11.560 --> 01:57:14.920
They're kind of different. They're different
down there. Yeah, it's no

1457
01:57:15.000 --> 01:57:18.520
whole bar there. I don't know
with them. We don't know what to

1458
01:57:18.600 --> 01:57:24.520
expect. Yeah, yeah, but
if we're planning on again picking up as

1459
01:57:24.520 --> 01:57:28.199
soon as we can get out there, and if anything happens, I will

1460
01:57:28.279 --> 01:57:32.840
let you know my email. We're
also a metal detectorists, so we've been

1461
01:57:32.840 --> 01:57:36.920
doing that for thirty some odd years. The email is coin hunters two at

1462
01:57:38.000 --> 01:57:43.239
yahoo dot com, so it too
is spelled out two perfect and I'll have

1463
01:57:43.279 --> 01:57:45.640
that in the show notes as well. Definitely, But yeah, they can

1464
01:57:45.680 --> 01:57:49.560
contact me at any time. I'm
not saying yeah, you know how that

1465
01:57:49.640 --> 01:57:54.560
goes. I don't check my EU
very often. I'll check it, but

1466
01:57:55.560 --> 01:57:59.159
we've gone back and forth with the
whole email things, but I will respond

1467
01:57:59.359 --> 01:58:02.720
if they do send me an email, perfect and real quick before we go.

1468
01:58:03.159 --> 01:58:08.680
Me talking to the listeners specifically for
all you New England people that are

1469
01:58:08.680 --> 01:58:14.720
listening to this episode. If you
have bigfoot things that have happened to you

1470
01:58:14.840 --> 01:58:20.359
in Massachusetts specifically western mass or southern
New Hampshire, Connecticut. You guys don't

1471
01:58:20.399 --> 01:58:23.640
talk a lot, so I would
love to talk to you about it.

1472
01:58:23.680 --> 01:58:27.560
Please contact me at Bigfoot Society at
gmail dot com or share it in the

1473
01:58:27.600 --> 01:58:30.800
comments. Norma, it's been a
great time chatting with you. Can I

1474
01:58:30.880 --> 01:58:35.680
just interject? Can I just interject
one thing? If any again along the

1475
01:58:35.720 --> 01:58:42.239
same lines is what you're saying.
If anyone want it, is concerned about

1476
01:58:42.239 --> 01:58:45.119
an area, if they want an
area of their's checked out, they can

1477
01:58:45.159 --> 01:58:49.159
also get a hold of us and
we will do our best to what's going

1478
01:58:49.199 --> 01:58:54.319
on there. If we've done that
before too, and again they can contact

1479
01:58:54.359 --> 01:58:58.159
me through the email. We've been
doing this a long time, so we're

1480
01:58:58.239 --> 01:59:01.239
used to it. There you go, maybe too long. Thank you so

1481
01:59:01.319 --> 01:59:04.680
much for hanging out tonight, Norma, and say thank you to Bob as

1482
01:59:04.680 --> 01:59:10.359
well. Yes, thank you so
much too. Please take a minute to

1483
01:59:10.600 --> 01:59:15.640
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1484
01:59:15.680 --> 01:59:19.119
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1485
01:59:19.520 --> 01:59:24.439
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1486
01:59:24.560 --> 01:59:28.560
much, make sure that you're subscribed. Share the show with a friend.

1487
01:59:29.239 --> 01:59:32.159
Really, it's all about sharing the
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1488
01:59:32.159 --> 01:59:36.920
a bigfoot encounter related to the following, or know someone who has, please

1489
01:59:38.399 --> 01:59:43.159
reach out to me at Bigfoot Society
at gmail dot com or pass on my

1490
01:59:43.239 --> 01:59:45.760
email. Here's the list. All
right, I'm going to use this space

1491
01:59:46.279 --> 01:59:51.119
this week to announce that I'll be
at the Sasquatch Summerfest and Oakridge organ As

1492
01:59:51.199 --> 01:59:56.399
atender. I won't be presenting or
anything, but I'll be hanging out trying

1493
01:59:56.439 --> 02:00:00.039
to interview people that have had bigfoot
encounters. If you're from the Oakridge,

1494
02:00:00.039 --> 02:00:04.920
Oregon area or surrounding and you've had
a bigfoot experience, please contact me directly

1495
02:00:04.960 --> 02:00:10.039
Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com.
Also, Priscilla was nice enough that if

1496
02:00:10.079 --> 02:00:14.880
you get your tickets through Sasquatch Summerfest
dot com and use code Bigfoot Society,

1497
02:00:15.279 --> 02:00:17.880
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1498
02:00:17.920 --> 02:00:23.960
big amount. So code Bigfoot Society
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1499
02:00:23.960 --> 02:00:29.039
Sasquatch Summerfest dot com and helps out
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1500
02:00:29.039 --> 02:00:33.199
you to all the Bigfoot Society Patreon
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1501
02:00:33.239 --> 02:00:38.920
that helps keep the show going and
I extremely appreciate it. Here at big

1502
02:00:38.960 --> 02:00:44.439
for Society, we're headed to the
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1503
02:00:44.439 --> 02:00:47.439
full time, So here we go. As of five twenty two, you're

1504
02:00:47.479 --> 02:00:51.239
now at two hundred and two patrons
out of eight hundred and twenty four needed.

1505
02:00:51.760 --> 02:00:56.960
That's twenty four point five to one
percent, almost a quarter of the

1506
02:00:56.960 --> 02:01:00.119
way there, guys, brings us
down to six hundred and twenty to left

1507
02:01:00.840 --> 02:01:04.319
to join the patroon. So a
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1508
02:01:04.399 --> 02:01:08.399
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1509
02:01:08.479 --> 02:01:11.920
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1510
02:01:12.000 --> 02:01:15.439
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1511
02:01:15.560 --> 02:01:20.640
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If you want to join in the fun,

1512
02:01:21.880 --> 02:01:26.000
you can join over at patreon dot
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1513
02:01:26.960 --> 02:02:19.880
I'll see you there and again thanks
for listening. Her and I can

1514
02:02:19.920 --> 02:02:24.119
get out here, we can tell
our stories. Maybe there's somebody else out

1515
02:02:24.119 --> 02:02:28.399
there listening it's too afraid to tell
their story. Maybe this will give them

1516
02:02:28.439 --> 02:02:31.720
the courage to come out and now
feel so bad about it. Who cares

1517
02:02:31.720 --> 02:02:35.239
what anybody thinks. I know what
I saw, I know what's out there.

1518
02:02:36.119 --> 02:02:57.079
That's all I care about. Please
let people know, Please let them

1519
02:02:57.439 --> 02:03:00.079
know. If you ever see one
of these things, you need to tell

1520
02:03:00.800 --> 02:03:04.720
because if you don't, then shame
on you, you know, shame on

1521
02:03:04.840 --> 02:03:58.039
you. Wait there's more. Monster
Fest two is coming up soon and Beautiful

1522
02:03:58.079 --> 02:04:01.119
can't Ohio and I will be there
doing a live podcast. If you've ever

1523
02:04:01.159 --> 02:04:06.000
wanted to meet Bigfoot Society in person, this is the year to do it.

1524
02:04:06.199 --> 02:04:13.239
My special guest in the live podcast
episode will be Justin from Cryptids of

1525
02:04:13.279 --> 02:04:17.479
the Corn. You will not want
to miss this live episode and then you

1526
02:04:17.479 --> 02:04:23.560
can hang out with me at Monsterfest. You can go to small Town Monsters

1527
02:04:23.640 --> 02:04:28.600
dot com to get your tickets.
Pre sale tickets are twenty dollars fifty cents

1528
02:04:29.159 --> 02:04:32.520
and tickets at the door will be
twenty five dollars, but kids twelve and

1529
02:04:32.600 --> 02:04:38.520
under are free. How many places
can you go to where kids twelve and

1530
02:04:38.600 --> 02:04:43.399
under are free. Not many new
this year are the live workshops. I'm

1531
02:04:43.439 --> 02:04:47.079
excited about this, extremely excited.
How to cast a footprint, how to

1532
02:04:47.119 --> 02:04:53.760
collect DNA in the woods, ghost
hunting tools one oh one, how to

1533
02:04:53.800 --> 02:05:00.319
do research. Also, there's going
to be food trucks outside this shoar year

1534
02:05:00.960 --> 02:05:05.239
and new guests, new speakers,
people you won't I mean, the coolest

1535
02:05:05.279 --> 02:05:10.640
thing about last year is that I
got to meet people I was not expecting

1536
02:05:10.680 --> 02:05:15.840
to be there, people like less
Odell, John Hickinbottom, really cool,

1537
02:05:15.840 --> 02:05:18.960
big people that I never would have
thought that I would have met before.

1538
02:05:19.119 --> 02:05:28.119
And Seth Breedlove made it happen by
making this incredible place for the community to

1539
02:05:28.279 --> 02:05:32.760
get together. Monsterfest in Canohio June
twenty eighth through twenty ninth. Guys,

1540
02:05:32.880 --> 02:05:36.640
do not miss this year. If
you missed last year, don't miss this

1541
02:05:36.760 --> 02:05:44.159
year. Head on over right now
to Smalltown Monsters dot com. I hope

1542
02:05:44.159 --> 02:05:44.680
to see you there.