Jan. 11, 2025

Family Cabin Showdown! |Archives | West Virginia

Originally released as Episodes 373 and 375.

In this gripping episode, host Jeremiah Byron from the Bigfoot Society podcast sits down with Will, a long-time listener from Virginia, as he recounts the spine-chilling experiences that he and his uncle...

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Season 1

Originally released as Episodes 373 and 375.

In this gripping episode, host Jeremiah Byron from the Bigfoot Society podcast sits down with Will, a long-time listener from Virginia, as he recounts the spine-chilling experiences that he and his uncle faced during their summer trips to a secluded cabin in West Virginia. From hearing unexplained footsteps and having strange encounters with unseen creatures, to finding massive footprints and dealing with nightly disturbances, Will's story provides an intense look at what might be lurking in the woods. In the second half of the episode, Don shares his harrowing account from Eastern Tennessee, where a seemingly peaceful getaway with his fiancée turned into a night of terror. Don describes hearing enormous footsteps, unsettling tapping on the cabin, and even witnessing large, shadowy figures. These extraordinary encounters drove them to the brink, confirming their suspicions that something unexplainable was indeed out there. Join us as we dive deep into these phenomenal encounters, and explore the mysteries that leave both Will and Don questioning reality to this day.

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slash the big for Society, and now let's get on

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with the show. All right, Bigfoot Society. We've got the

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privilege of talking to Will tonight. He's a listener that

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reached out to me from Virginia and he's had quite

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a few things happen to him over the years. But

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how's it going tonight, Will?

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That's going all right? I'm just glad to finally being

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able to let this off my chest.

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Absolutely, you were talking to me before the interview and

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you say you've been listening almost since the very beginning

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of the podcast. And I appreciate that. That's pretty cool.

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It's crazy to think it's almost going on five years,

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but you had sent me an email and you've had

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some really interesting things happen. I'm excited to hear your

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story and then maybe ask some questions, but I'm going

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to go ahead and give the reins over to you

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will and any context our listeners need to know. Feel

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free to go ahead and start sharing your story.

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Okay, sounds good. I am originally from the state of

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New York, and my mom's side of the family is

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from West Virginia, where this is pretty much all started

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from as a little kid, since the show Finding Bigfoot

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had came out, it really sparked my interest and I knew.

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I was like, hey, Grandma and Grandpa, they have a

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cabin in West Virginia. It's in the middle of nowhere.

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I was about twelve years old, bugged my uncle so

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many times, like take me up to the cabin, Let's

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go bigfoot hunting, Let's go bigfoot hunting, and he finally said, okay,

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all right, let's do it. So after watching Finding Bigfoot

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being a kid, I was like, I want to do

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everything they do, from call blasting to setting up trail

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cameras and things of that nature. So nothing really happened

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our first time when I went out when I was twelve,

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but we would spend a solid week up at the

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cabin at a time during the middle summer break. Everything

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really started kicking off when I was thirteen years old,

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and I don't know, it's hard to imagine experiencing things

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at such a young age that everybody in my life

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had always told me, Oh, that's fake, that's make believe,

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that's not real. You're crazy to then being like, huh,

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I saw this, and you all tell me it's fake,

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but it's flesh and blood, and I saw it with

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my own two eyes. So the first thing that had

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happened was me and him got up to the cabin.

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It was just a normal kind of hot day in

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West Virginia to a bunch of stuff, and my uncle

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had this big bluetooth speaker and we were going to

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do call blasting. So we had stayed up pretty late,

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probably about one or two o'clock in the morning, just

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blasting calls off the front porch of the cabin. Really

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didn't hear too much, nothing out of the ordinary. The

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first night we were there, and the second night we decided, hey,

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let's go camping. We'll set up a trail camera. We

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camped around the property that night and that's when things

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started more peeking and popping off. I don't know if

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it's because where they how the cabin was set up,

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that things didn't really want to go around it. And

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my uncle had these ideas, let's do wooden knocks. That night,

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which was the second night we were there, he started

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popping off WOODENKNOCKX on the tree. Everything was pretty quiet

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to start and he had gotten up and sorry, Teremiah,

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this is it's just a lot to think back on

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and finally be able to talk to He had gotten

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up to you the bathroom and I heard him get up,

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and it wasn't nothing out of the ordinary for him

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to get up and hear somebody walk away. He came

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walking back. I heard him get back in his tent

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and it was probably good twenty minutes later. Being young

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in the middle of the woods, it is hard to

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go back to sleep have to hear somebody get up.

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And I had known that he was laying down, and

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all of a sudden, it just sounded like something on

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two feet was just pacing around our where we were

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camping at, and I tried to wake him up, and

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I didn't really want to yell or anything, and I

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was freaking out and I was like, hey, wake up,

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and I didn't get any response out of him. And eventually,

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on that night, I just heard whatever it was, it

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just walked away and I had I finally had fallen

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back asleep, and I woke up in the morning and

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I ran up woke my own club.

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Like did you hear what was going on last night?

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Did you hear that? And he's just like no. I

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was like, dude, something's completely walking around our camp. He's like, okay,

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take me to where you think you heard it walking around.

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And we got up that morning and we walked around

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and we actually had found a pretty deep indent footprint.

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And I still wish that I spoke with this uncle

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who he's taking up there, but we really don't talk

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much anymore. All these other things that I'm going to

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talk ramble on about. He had all these pictures on

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his phone of the stuff that we had found and

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seen and stuff, but he had a picture of the footprint.

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And the only kind of crappy part was there was

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only one that we could really find. And then during

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the day we had went back to the cabin and

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we were talking about it and we were both excited.

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But at the same time he wore size thirteen boot

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and it was bigger than his boot, and I looked

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at him. Monk is not the type of guy to

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get nervous, but he was just like he was always

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on the spectrum of I don't know if this thing's real,

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though this thing is probably real. That night we had

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gotten back to the cabin. Nothing really took too much

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place during that time during that trip other than I

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just heard something just pacing around us and we kicked

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it back at the cabin. For the rest of the

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couple days we stayed up there, and it was a

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lot of things letting let up to me not going

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back to the cabin, which I haven't been back to

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that cabin since I was sixteen, and I refused to

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go back. But anyway, so the next summer that we

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went up there, this is when things started to get

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a lot more up at eat with activity, and it

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was just it was a lot more rampant. I don't know,

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if I just I don't know, it was just got

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a lot different. During that summer when I was fourteen,

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we always went up to the cabin at the same time,

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and during this time things just got more intense. So

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we got up there. The first night it was pretty quiet,

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but the second night we started just cooking over and

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opening fire and we were just hanging out being loud

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and rowdy. The sun started to go down a little,

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but we always cooked over the open fire when we

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were there because we didn't have a grill or anything

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up at the cabin, and it has the tin roof,

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so we started hearing just like little tings off the

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tin roof, and it sounded like something was throwing rocks.

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And he looked at me, and I looked at him,

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and I was like, huh. I took a rock and

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I threw it back up there, and then it just

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started progressively getting louder. It wasn't like repetitive, it was

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like king. It was like you'd hear like ting, and

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then it'd be like three or four second pause, and

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then you hear like another ting, and that's when it

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was just completely out of the ordinary. We both looked

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at each other and we're like, that's not natural. What

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would be up on the side of this mountain, just

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the throwing things and perfectly hitting this roof. Now I

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say it's a cabin, but it was just really one

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of those big double wide trailers, but it was on

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the nicer end. And I started throwing rocks back after

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we would hear rocks, and all of a sudden, it

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was just like this damn on the top of the roof,

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and you saw this massive rock, almost the size of

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a basketball, just roll and just smack on the ground

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in front of us. We both looked at each other

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and we were like, what is that? And he's just

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stop throwing rocks up there. Stopped throwing rocks up there.

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This isn't a good idea. So we got the food

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off the fire and we just went back in the house.

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And I'm getting chills even talking about this. It was

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just like what is going on? And so the sun

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went down and we were getting ready for bed. My uncles,

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let's not go outside tonight. I was a little bit

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on the a little bit on the shakier side after

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that happened, because I just wasn't expecting that to happen.

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Just literally a rock the size of a basketball smashing

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off the roof. So it came out. It was about

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ten thirty eleven o'clock at night. My uncle had went

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to bed, so it was a one bedroom and then

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I would sleep in the living room. And how the

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living room was set up a you'd walk through the

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door and we had a foton against the wall, and

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then against the other wall there was another futon. But

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there was a window where when I laid down, I

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could look up out the window and there was window

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in front of me. So that night I was just

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I finally had fallen asleep, and all of a sudden,

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I just heard something loud, just pacing, and not even pacing,

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I don't want to say it was pacing, but just circling.

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It was loud footsteps, and it made my heart start

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beating through my chest, and I was just like, okay,

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I was like, maybe I'm hearing things. And I would

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just try to keep myself calm until I heard it

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come around the side of the cabin and I could

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tell this thing was on two feet and I heard

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step on the bottom of the deck and the step

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had the steps went up. There was five steps and

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you'd reached the top of the deck. I heard step,

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and you heard the wood and I'm just sitting there shaking.

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I'm like, oh, I'm like, what is this, what's going on?

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And my dreaming, but no, I was one hundred percent awake,

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and my heart was pounding through my chest and I

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could hear just these really deep breathing and it was

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just almost like a grunting. It was just something like

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I have never heard of in my life. And I'm

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sitting there and I'm freaking out, and I hear this

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thing take another step, and I'm like, let's going to

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the door. And I heard another step and then I

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could hear this breathing and this grunt thing still, because

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it was only like ten to fifteen feet from the

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edge of the deck to the front of the door,

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and I had sat up a little bit and I'm like,

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please don't come through the door, Please don't come through

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the door. And I don't know if I really should

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be saying this, but anytime I went up to the cabinet,

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You're in the middle of nowhere. So my uncle would

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always give me a little side arm, and he would

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always carry a sidearm, because God forbid, you don't know

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if you run into something you're in the middle of nowhere.

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I could go out to pee and there could be

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a mountain lie outside, just out of context. So I

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hear this thing at the door and I just hear

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it sounded like it grabbed the door handle and it

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just jiggled a little bit. So I laid up and

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I had this side arm on my chest and I

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was sitting there. I'm like, please don't come through the door.

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I don't We're gonna die if this thing comes to

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the door. I'm hyperventilating. I hear the door jingle and

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then it stopped, and I just heard like a snack,

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like it jumped off the other side of the deck

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and I just heard it pacing off into the woods.

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And at that time, I had noticed that my uncle

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had woken up and he came running down the hallway.

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So I don't know if he had started this thing

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when he came flying down the hallway, or if it

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was just curious and just wanted. We only went up

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there for a week in the summer, in two weeks

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during hunting season, so I honestly don't know what was

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going on. And we woke up that next morning and again,

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but this time we were able to see a footstep

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and then it was like a five to six foot

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stride into another footstep and then off the other side

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of the deck. We were able to get three footsteps

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to where it jumped off the other side of the deck.

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You could see where it hit the ground with one foot,

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another foot, and then straight into the woods. And I

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just that really still eats at me to this day.

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I still sometimes if it clicks in my mind at night,

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I still trouble trying to sleep. And then this is

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heart some of us is heard to talk about. And

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then the following night, me and my uncle decided to

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stay up. We decided to stay up till one or

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two o'clock in the morning, I can't remember. And we

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sat on that deck and he had his ar fifteen,

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and we just waited because it freaked him out just

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as bad as it freaked me out, I think. And

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then that trip up to the cabin we cut short.

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We only wanted up staying for three days. And my

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uncle doesn't he wouldn't even talk about a lot of

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this stuff to this day. I don't know if it

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freaked him out that bad, but it took me a

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lot of convincing and we went up there one more time,

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and this was the last time that we ever went

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up there. Me, I don't know if he's ever been

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back up there. I know my grandparents are trying to

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sell the property, and they've been trying to sell it

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for years now.

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So the third.

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Time, which was the last time we went up there,

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which was the following year, it just like everything. I

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don't know if we pissed this thing off bike going

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up there. I don't know if they're migrate through this

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area at this time of year, but this time everything

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just went absolutely like bonkers off the wall. So there's

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a long driveway to get up to where the cabin is,

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and in the middle of the road, and I wish

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I still, like I said, I had these pictures, I

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might be able to get him and email him to you.

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There was a tree branch broken off, snapped off, a

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perfectly healthy tree, and this branch was really wide and

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it was placed right in the middle of the driveway

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to go up to the cabin.

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And my uncle.

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Looked at me when we saw that, and I was

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just like, we're already here. It's an hour and twenty

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minute driving the house. We both enjoy going up here.

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Other than the stuff that happens we used to have

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good time going up there. I said, let's just try

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to stay a couple of days of things. If we

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get freaked out, we'll just go home. And he's all right,

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that's a good idea. So we moved this tree ranch

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out of the road just instantly when we got up

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to the cab, and I just got this feeling that

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something or something is just there and I can't express

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this feeling, and I didn't want to say anything to him,

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and we got everything packed in the house and we

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decided to all right, we'll stay the night. So the

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first night we just did our normal thing. We went outside,

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we cooked dinner, nothing happened and nothing hit in the

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house or anything crazy. And so the first night we

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kept everything pretty calm. The second night, same thing. We

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just went hiking and we hung out around the cab

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and we made a bunch of noise, cooked food, hung out,

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nothing too crazy. And then the third night, we were

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sitting outside on the deck and it was probably eleven

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twelve o'clock at night, and I just got this boneheaded idea.

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I'm like, we came up here to go bigfoot hunting,

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and we both enjoyed being up here. I said, I'm

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just gonna do a whoop, so I just want to

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see if anything's around. So I whooped and then I

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looped again, and then I waited another thirty seconds and

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I whooped and we both sat down, and I was like,

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you really think that's gonna work.

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Big for society will be right back after these messages,

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and I.

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Said, let's just see because we were I'm just I'm

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addicted to being a big foot nut. And about twenty

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minutes later, we heard a would knock and it was

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off in the distance. It wasn't nothing like super close.

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And I looked at Hidney looked at me, and I

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was just like okay. So I whooped again. And then

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ten seconds later you heard a whoop, but it was

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off to our right and the wood knock it came

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from the left, and he looked at me, and I

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was just like, okay, whatever. So I whooped again. But

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I whooped three times again this time, and then this

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thing imitated because I paused three to four seconds in

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between my whoops. It whooped the end, but it whooped

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the same whoop I did, and then I was just

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like okay. And then this time I decided I watched

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a lot of funding bigfoot. Like I said, but you

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know how Bobo does this bigfoot call. I'm like, I'm

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gonna do bigfoot call. I just want to see. So

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I let out and it probably it probably sounded funny,

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but I let out what I could to be the

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best bigfoot call I could. And then I don't know

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if I tick this thing off by trying to imitate it,

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and it didn't sound right. But in thirty seconds, this

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screamed to Howell, still just sit here, and it haunts me.

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I'm so scared because I'm an avid hunter to be

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out in the middle of the woods and hear this

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noise again. It almost sounded like the Ohio Howell. I've

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heard it a couple times on your show, and I've

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done research to try to figure out what it sounded like.

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But it was just like it freaked me out. It

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was just like, nothing in the woods should make that

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kind of a noise. And I'd been hunting in West

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Virginia and Virginia pretty much since I was eight years

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old with my uncle and my grandpa and my dad,

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and it's just nothing in the woods that lives here

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should make a noise like that. And I was just like,

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holy crap. And then the rest of that night we

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would hear whoops and stuff back and forth. And I don't, like,

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I said, I don't know if we just pissed everything

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off in the woods that night, but it was crazy.

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He used to have it was crappy audio because it

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was two thousand and fifteen on his phone, but we

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used to have audio to where you could almost hear

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these like you could hear it faintly, and it was

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just absolutely insane. And I wish I could I had

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a way to imitate these noises, but it's just not natural.

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It was just it still freaks me out to even

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think about something in the woods that can make noises

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like this. And so we had went back in the

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cabin that night, and we woke up pretty early in

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the morning because we were deciding if we wanted to stay.

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Just sounded like we pissed everything off, and we were

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up for a good twenty thirty minutes, and we started

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packing everything up and we were just sitting down for

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a minute, and all of a sudden, it was just

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like something ran up to the side of the house

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the cabin and slapped it and like it vibrated and

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we both looked at each other, and he jumped up

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with the gun and he ran around the house that

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there was nothing there, but he had a picture where

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you could see this. It was like almost like an

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oily handprint hammed on the side of this house. And

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I'm getting chills even talking about this, and it was

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just absolutely insane. And then at that moment we heat

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when he came back in the house, said we gotta go.

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He's going. He took a picture of that handprint. But

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ever since those things happened up at the cabin, I

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haven't been back, and I refuse to go back. And

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my biggest goal was I wanted to find Bigfoot, but

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I want to leave it alone. I wanted to if

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he's up in that cabin in West Virginia, I just

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want him to live happy. I don't want to piss

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him off. And quite frankly, I don't know if I

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even want to truly experience all of that again, because

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it still messes with me sometimes to this day. And

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when we were leaving the cabin that morning, my uncle

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swears up and down, and I believe him because he's

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never lied to me in my entire life, that he

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saw something seven to eight feet tall in black, just

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tucked back in the side of the woods, just peeking

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around a tree. Now I didn't see it, but it

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was just the events that happened up there is just

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still freaking me out.

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Had a few questions. It's really interesting and thank you

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for sharing what you went through during those summers. I

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was interested what particular calls you were call blasting.

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There was a finding Bigfoot app that used to be

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on the app store, or it would have the Ohio Howell,

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it would have Bobo's Call. It would have had a

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whole bunch of different things where you could hook your

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phone up to the speaker and just blast off of that.

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Oh really, I had no idea.

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That's awesome because this guy's cabin, you're nearest neighbors four

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or five miles away. It was literally in the middle

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of nowhere, okay, and you had no phone service and

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you had to it was only landline only.

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That kind of leads into my next question, which is,

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can you share anything about what area of West Virginia

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this cabin trailer is in.

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So if people know West Virginia, it's in between warden

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It's pretty close to Wardensville, West Virginia. It's just on

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the outskirtst where you almost go down Corridor each in

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the Moorfield, West Virginia. But it's tucked way back. You

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can only up there at the four wheel drive vehicles.

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I don't know what made my grandparents buy this cabin.

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They bought it thinking maybe like a family summer house,

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but you can't get up there with the car. It's

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in Hardy County.

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They'll probably be a listener that will know about Wardensville.

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It looks like it's a very small town, about two

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hundred and sixty five people.

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You go out of the town to Wardensville a little

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bit and then you hook a right, I mean you

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just dry forever.

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Your grandparents own the cabin trailer.

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Correct. Yeah.

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Did you ever talk to them or ask them about

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bigfoot activity on the property?

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No, but my I probably it probably wouldn't be a

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bad idea. So my grandma, she's from a small town

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in Lady, West Virginia, and she always told me because

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my great grandpa always told her that you don't want

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to mess with things that come out in the night

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in the mountains because they're very hardcore. She grew up

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in the middle of nowhere. And my grandfather was a

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coal miner. My great grandfather was a coal miner and

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lived in a town of seventy five people. And he

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would always want all the grandkids, the great grandkids and

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the grandkids, and at night he did not like us

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out at night on his property. And my grandma was

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the same way. I don't I could ask her if

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you want me too, and I could always email you

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what she says.

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Oh, will you know their stories? Will you got to

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ask for me? That would be amazing. Yeah, I'm sure

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they ran into stuff on that property.

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Yeah, because my grandparents have run up there. Like I said,

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we all stopped going up there. I refuse. I will

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not go back up there. You could give me a hank,

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and I won't go back up there.

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So nobody goes up anymore.

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No.

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I don't know if my grandfather's been up there recently,

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but I refuse to.

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Okay, Yeah, you got to reach out talk to your grandparents.

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I always get to talk to them if you can.

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But yeah, to talk to them and ask if there

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if there's anything weird that ever happened at the property,

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and it might be a thing where you might have

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to word it a certain way too, although they'll know

459
00:23:04.960 --> 00:23:07.119
what you're talking about. They would have to know if

460
00:23:07.160 --> 00:23:10.200
you say bigfoot or things like that. But yeah, they

461
00:23:10.279 --> 00:23:12.839
might come back with it. We had some big monkey

462
00:23:13.039 --> 00:23:14.240
type things running around.

463
00:23:14.960 --> 00:23:16.440
Honestly, wouldn't be surprised.

464
00:23:16.799 --> 00:23:19.920
Man, that's wild. You say, you say you haven't talked

465
00:23:19.920 --> 00:23:20.720
to your uncle lately.

466
00:23:21.480 --> 00:23:22.480
Yeah, we didn't even have them.

467
00:23:22.480 --> 00:23:29.880
Probably talked, okay, but he may potentially have audio and

468
00:23:30.119 --> 00:23:35.240
photos from one of the summers or times up there.

469
00:23:35.759 --> 00:23:39.079
Yeah, okay, I'll reach out to him. There's just no

470
00:23:39.200 --> 00:23:40.240
guarantee heat.

471
00:23:41.920 --> 00:23:44.880
Oh yeah, no, probably if you don't mind reaching out,

472
00:23:45.039 --> 00:23:47.680
that would be amazing. There's going to be at least

473
00:23:47.680 --> 00:23:51.559
one person that's gonna be thinking this because you mentioned

474
00:23:51.559 --> 00:23:53.440
you're going to try to sell the property.

475
00:23:54.079 --> 00:23:58.599
Yeah, properties for sales on sixty seven acres. Oh, that's why, right.

476
00:24:00.359 --> 00:24:02.000
I don't remember the name of the national force that

477
00:24:02.079 --> 00:24:04.839
runs through there. I know there's one big force that

478
00:24:05.400 --> 00:24:08.960
should run through I'll get the address for you too,

479
00:24:08.960 --> 00:24:11.400
for my grandparents, and you can Google map that. It

480
00:24:11.480 --> 00:24:13.200
is literally in the middle of nowhere.

481
00:24:13.359 --> 00:24:16.960
It feels like there's it feels like there's more history

482
00:24:17.160 --> 00:24:19.799
to that area too. I think when you start digging

483
00:24:19.839 --> 00:24:25.640
a little bit, you will probably you'll probably find something else.

484
00:24:25.720 --> 00:24:30.119
I think that's wild. You mentioned that your uncle had

485
00:24:30.119 --> 00:24:31.160
a AR fifteen.

486
00:24:31.839 --> 00:24:34.599
Yeah, we both always carried a two AR fifteens and

487
00:24:34.599 --> 00:24:36.119
two pistols. Weren't went up there.

488
00:24:36.240 --> 00:24:37.640
Okay, so you were ready to go.

489
00:24:38.319 --> 00:24:41.279
Yeah. I always had this anticipation like I see this thing,

490
00:24:41.279 --> 00:24:43.799
I'm gonna shoot this thing. But you know what, I'm

491
00:24:43.839 --> 00:24:47.759
good after the next thing that we talk about, I'm good.

492
00:24:48.680 --> 00:24:50.720
You know what. I don't know what kind of caliper

493
00:24:50.759 --> 00:24:55.960
bullet would stop something like this. It's just it's crazy.

494
00:24:56.200 --> 00:24:59.960
Any weird smells at any time when you were up

495
00:25:00.079 --> 00:25:01.920
been that cabin area.

496
00:25:02.279 --> 00:25:05.920
Oh yeah, you would always get like, I mean, I

497
00:25:05.960 --> 00:25:08.240
know what a bear smells like, and it was just

498
00:25:08.359 --> 00:25:12.000
like it smelled like a dead carcass mixed with a

499
00:25:12.039 --> 00:25:12.640
wet bear.

500
00:25:13.759 --> 00:25:14.599
It was just this.

501
00:25:15.440 --> 00:25:21.319
Funky, weird, nasty smell. And it happened all the time.

502
00:25:21.440 --> 00:25:25.839
Right, Okay, gotcha. Any sounds that were at a place

503
00:25:26.880 --> 00:25:30.359
that didn't scream like Bigfoot, but you heard it and

504
00:25:30.400 --> 00:25:34.279
you were like, that's really weird. That doesn't really belong

505
00:25:34.359 --> 00:25:34.599
out you.

506
00:25:34.720 --> 00:25:39.240
I've heard whistles before and almost like a tongue clacking

507
00:25:39.319 --> 00:25:42.440
noise almost. It's it's hard to like a popping noise.

508
00:25:42.160 --> 00:25:47.240
Almost any sounds that would make you think, are there

509
00:25:47.319 --> 00:25:48.240
other people here?

510
00:25:48.960 --> 00:25:51.880
No, I do for a fact, if something happened and

511
00:25:52.000 --> 00:25:54.799
you were in the woods, you were, it'd be a

512
00:25:54.920 --> 00:25:58.240
very hairy situation, like you could potentially not make it

513
00:25:58.279 --> 00:26:00.440
out of there. I know for a fact there was

514
00:26:00.480 --> 00:26:01.359
nobody up there.

515
00:26:01.960 --> 00:26:04.319
How close would you say the closest neighbor is to

516
00:26:04.400 --> 00:26:04.960
this area.

517
00:26:05.000 --> 00:26:08.079
It's a long way away, probably a good ten minute

518
00:26:08.160 --> 00:26:10.400
drive down the road, fifteen minute drive to the cabin.

519
00:26:11.200 --> 00:26:14.279
I'm not really sure how you kept going back after

520
00:26:14.359 --> 00:26:15.240
some of this stuff.

521
00:26:15.279 --> 00:26:18.440
Man, it's just like I want to see it kind

522
00:26:18.440 --> 00:26:21.319
of curiosity. And then after that last thing, I was

523
00:26:21.359 --> 00:26:23.519
just like, nope, I'm good.

524
00:26:23.839 --> 00:26:26.759
Oh the oily handprint on the side of the trailer.

525
00:26:27.039 --> 00:26:29.359
Was it a certain color at all?

526
00:26:29.960 --> 00:26:31.960
It was got I don't know how to like, almost

527
00:26:32.000 --> 00:26:34.519
like a carmel color, like a caramel, like I really

528
00:26:34.599 --> 00:26:37.160
light caramel color. Almost. Also, it could have been because

529
00:26:37.240 --> 00:26:39.920
the side of the house was dirty or something. I

530
00:26:39.960 --> 00:26:42.240
only saw it off the picture because like my uncle

531
00:26:42.359 --> 00:26:44.319
really just wanted to go like he was done, and

532
00:26:44.359 --> 00:26:46.880
my uncle's a big dude. He's six foot one, he's

533
00:26:46.880 --> 00:26:48.960
got big hands, and this thing made his hand look small.

534
00:26:49.680 --> 00:26:52.640
It shook the side of it, and he was just like, nope,

535
00:26:52.640 --> 00:26:53.200
we're done.

536
00:26:53.559 --> 00:26:57.519
What kind of food were you cooking out on the campfire?

537
00:26:57.759 --> 00:27:00.640
Just bring like for like a hamburger, meat and hot

538
00:27:00.680 --> 00:27:03.240
dogs and sausage patties and bacon.

539
00:27:03.160 --> 00:27:07.920
Okay, anything. So I'm just gonna say some really weird

540
00:27:08.000 --> 00:27:11.440
sounds just for fun. Nothing that sounded like a baby

541
00:27:11.440 --> 00:27:19.079
crying no okay, And random metallic door opening anything like that.

542
00:27:19.920 --> 00:27:21.880
No, okay, cool, good.

543
00:27:22.680 --> 00:27:25.799
But yeah, sometimes you almost hear I don't want to

544
00:27:25.839 --> 00:27:29.000
say it like this, but it was like somebody trying

545
00:27:29.079 --> 00:27:33.599
who doesn't speak fluent English. It almost sounded like they

546
00:27:33.599 --> 00:27:36.960
were trying to say my name or my uncle's name.

547
00:27:37.079 --> 00:27:40.039
We've heard that a time or two and it just

548
00:27:40.200 --> 00:27:43.920
didn't really make sense. You're just jogging things back in

549
00:27:44.000 --> 00:27:47.119
my memory, asking questions, and it was just weird.

550
00:27:47.839 --> 00:27:52.240
That's really unsettling because it's almost like something could be

551
00:27:52.359 --> 00:27:56.200
hearing your uncles say your name or you say your

552
00:27:56.279 --> 00:28:00.000
uncle's name, and then it's trying to mimic it. Yeah, dude,

553
00:28:00.079 --> 00:28:02.759
that's wild because I know that in West Virginia there's

554
00:28:02.799 --> 00:28:06.240
a lot of stories of things mimicking trying to lure

555
00:28:06.400 --> 00:28:07.839
you out in the woods.

556
00:28:08.319 --> 00:28:10.000
West Virginia is a high place.

557
00:28:10.680 --> 00:28:14.319
When you would hear those what sounded like your name,

558
00:28:14.599 --> 00:28:18.160
Would you hear other sounds at the same time or

559
00:28:18.279 --> 00:28:20.359
in close proximity to that, I don't know.

560
00:28:20.480 --> 00:28:22.200
It very well could have been, but I don't know

561
00:28:22.200 --> 00:28:24.680
if I was just so ficiated on hearing my name

562
00:28:24.720 --> 00:28:27.480
being called. Yeah, but I really just focused on that.

563
00:28:28.000 --> 00:28:30.799
So that happened in the morning when I would get

564
00:28:30.880 --> 00:28:32.880
up to go outside the pee, and then I knew

565
00:28:32.920 --> 00:28:36.720
my uncle was sleeping, and then like off this. I

566
00:28:36.720 --> 00:28:38.759
could look straight into the woods and it sounded like

567
00:28:38.759 --> 00:28:42.440
it was coming from right in front of me. Almost wow.

568
00:28:42.480 --> 00:28:44.759
So you heard it in the morning. Were there any

569
00:28:44.759 --> 00:28:46.920
other times a day that you would hear that as well?

570
00:28:47.559 --> 00:28:49.599
No, it was only if I went outside in the

571
00:28:49.599 --> 00:28:53.000
morning by myself and my uncle heard the exact same thing.

572
00:28:53.079 --> 00:28:55.680
Whoever woke up first would go outside and hear something

573
00:28:55.799 --> 00:28:56.839
like that.

574
00:28:56.839 --> 00:28:59.599
That's really freaky, dude, That's probably one of the weirdest

575
00:28:59.640 --> 00:29:02.119
things I've heard on the show, to be honest, not

576
00:29:02.200 --> 00:29:03.039
a huge fan of that.

577
00:29:03.039 --> 00:29:06.839
One, but it was creepy.

578
00:29:06.880 --> 00:29:09.960
Did that happen many times over the years, or was

579
00:29:10.000 --> 00:29:14.680
it only during a certain travel time that you went

580
00:29:14.759 --> 00:29:15.640
up there that happened.

581
00:29:16.079 --> 00:29:18.880
We would go up there for hunting season in November

582
00:29:18.920 --> 00:29:21.720
and nothing. It was only when we went towards the

583
00:29:21.799 --> 00:29:24.640
end of June. But we didn't stay it overnight. We

584
00:29:24.680 --> 00:29:26.279
would just wake up and go in the morning and

585
00:29:26.279 --> 00:29:28.599
then come back in the afternoon. But I don't know

586
00:29:28.720 --> 00:29:30.640
if it's because we were there such a short time,

587
00:29:31.160 --> 00:29:33.519
but I did notice too a lot like the deer

588
00:29:33.640 --> 00:29:37.640
population just completely dwindled down, because if they've had that cabin.

589
00:29:37.680 --> 00:29:39.240
We've been going up there since I was like eight,

590
00:29:39.759 --> 00:29:42.799
and we see it twenty thirty deer, and like towards

591
00:29:42.880 --> 00:29:44.759
the last couple of times we went hunt you wouldn't

592
00:29:44.759 --> 00:29:47.440
see anything which was not like that at all.

593
00:29:48.079 --> 00:29:50.480
Okay, I was just going to ask that how the

594
00:29:50.519 --> 00:29:53.119
animals were around that area. Sounds like there used to

595
00:29:53.200 --> 00:29:55.720
be a good amount any water sources.

596
00:29:56.400 --> 00:29:59.160
Yeah, there was a creek that ran through the property,

597
00:29:59.240 --> 00:30:01.559
and I know when you first turned on the road

598
00:30:01.680 --> 00:30:04.000
and you would start driving down, there was somebody's house

599
00:30:04.039 --> 00:30:07.480
and he dug huge like lake out and he stopped

600
00:30:07.480 --> 00:30:09.039
it full of fish.

601
00:30:09.480 --> 00:30:12.279
Big for society. Will be right back after these messages.

602
00:30:28.279 --> 00:30:31.640
But that was probably two three miles from the cabin.

603
00:30:31.759 --> 00:30:35.240
But that's still water and fish.

604
00:30:35.480 --> 00:30:37.160
I'd love to talk to that guy to see what

605
00:30:37.240 --> 00:30:39.519
happened when he started digging up his property.

606
00:30:40.200 --> 00:30:44.680
That there was a cave. Once you want up the mountain,

607
00:30:44.720 --> 00:30:46.960
down the backside, there was a cave that used to

608
00:30:47.119 --> 00:30:50.839
that was sitting back there. But I never went up there.

609
00:30:50.880 --> 00:30:52.680
My uncle always told me there was a cave on

610
00:30:52.720 --> 00:30:53.799
the backside of the property.

611
00:30:55.079 --> 00:30:58.759
Okay, man, there's oh yeah, I'm getting I'm getting the

612
00:30:59.160 --> 00:31:02.839
vibes about that area for sure. Will. That's crazy stuff

613
00:31:02.920 --> 00:31:05.839
you're saying. You experienced some things in Virginia as well.

614
00:31:06.400 --> 00:31:10.839
It was this one time. So my fiance's family, they

615
00:31:10.920 --> 00:31:15.839
live close to the George Washington National Forest, and they

616
00:31:15.920 --> 00:31:18.599
live in the middle, literally in the middle of nowhere.

617
00:31:18.640 --> 00:31:21.119
So I was leaving their house one night and it

618
00:31:21.200 --> 00:31:24.000
was dark, it was probably eight or nine o'clock and

619
00:31:24.319 --> 00:31:28.960
going down this road. It's called Orndoff's Trout Farm. Anybody

620
00:31:29.160 --> 00:31:31.839
in this area would probably know it, and it's this guy.

621
00:31:31.920 --> 00:31:35.759
He stocks this huge pond full of trout. Family, you

622
00:31:35.920 --> 00:31:39.799
go fishing and whatnot. And I just start driving past

623
00:31:39.839 --> 00:31:41.799
the trout farm and I come around the road and

624
00:31:41.880 --> 00:31:45.480
my headlights hit two eyes standing in the middle of

625
00:31:45.519 --> 00:31:49.160
this field, and I was just like what And it

626
00:31:49.240 --> 00:31:51.880
was like nine feet off the ground. So I hit

627
00:31:51.920 --> 00:31:55.519
it with my high beams, and honestly, I wish I

628
00:31:55.559 --> 00:31:59.480
didn't hit it with my high beams because I literally

629
00:31:59.559 --> 00:32:05.519
saw eyes, a whole face, body definition hair. I could

630
00:32:05.599 --> 00:32:10.160
draw this thing to a tee and it just I

631
00:32:10.200 --> 00:32:12.720
couldn't even pull my phone out to take a picture

632
00:32:12.920 --> 00:32:15.359
because I was just something in my brains that you

633
00:32:15.440 --> 00:32:17.160
need to leave, you need to leave, stop looking go

634
00:32:18.240 --> 00:32:20.920
and I just I shut my high feeings off. I

635
00:32:20.960 --> 00:32:25.160
looked at this thing probably for a good tens fifteen seconds,

636
00:32:25.200 --> 00:32:27.480
and I'd took off. I was People are like, how

637
00:32:27.519 --> 00:32:29.359
can you not take a picture of it? And I

638
00:32:29.400 --> 00:32:32.160
promise you, if you truly see this thing and watch

639
00:32:32.200 --> 00:32:34.519
it breathing, it's scaring. We were eyed. It felt like

640
00:32:34.559 --> 00:32:38.319
it was looking into my soul. You don't think, you

641
00:32:38.480 --> 00:32:41.119
just don't think. And I could draw it to a

642
00:32:41.200 --> 00:32:44.559
tee and I can give you such a vivid description

643
00:32:44.799 --> 00:32:50.359
and it was just utterly terrifying, Like maybe if I

644
00:32:50.400 --> 00:32:53.200
had my side on on me. I maybe would have

645
00:32:53.279 --> 00:32:56.839
gotten out and tried to take my phone out and

646
00:32:56.920 --> 00:32:58.720
take a good picture of it, or maybe pull my

647
00:32:58.759 --> 00:33:01.720
phone up, but I so freaked out. I just felt

648
00:33:01.720 --> 00:33:03.839
like in that situation, I did not want to die.

649
00:33:04.559 --> 00:33:06.680
It just freaked me out, like this thing could literally

650
00:33:06.759 --> 00:33:08.640
rip my car door off, pull me off, and on

651
00:33:08.839 --> 00:33:09.359
it snacks me.

652
00:33:10.039 --> 00:33:12.079
At that point, you're looking face to face at the

653
00:33:12.119 --> 00:33:16.279
creature fifteen seconds. Did it then walk away or you

654
00:33:16.400 --> 00:33:18.440
kept driving or how did that end?

655
00:33:19.000 --> 00:33:21.359
I peeled off, like I completely stopped in the road

656
00:33:21.400 --> 00:33:24.319
and I was looking at this thing and it made

657
00:33:24.400 --> 00:33:27.240
a move like it gesture to start, like I don't

658
00:33:27.240 --> 00:33:28.880
know if it was gonna start walking towards me or

659
00:33:28.920 --> 00:33:32.839
walking towards the woods. But I just slammed my foot

660
00:33:32.880 --> 00:33:34.599
on the gas and I took off, like it just

661
00:33:34.640 --> 00:33:38.000
freaked me out. And it was only like twenty maybe

662
00:33:38.119 --> 00:33:42.079
thirty yards away from the car, maybe thirty yards, and

663
00:33:42.119 --> 00:33:44.480
it just I always said, don't huh. I want to

664
00:33:44.480 --> 00:33:48.119
get the best picture, the best proof, and not until

665
00:33:48.119 --> 00:33:51.640
you're in a situation like that, everything just changes in

666
00:33:51.680 --> 00:33:52.119
your brain.

667
00:33:53.000 --> 00:33:55.240
Was this something you were able to bring up to

668
00:33:55.319 --> 00:33:58.039
your fiance and your fiance's family.

669
00:33:58.720 --> 00:34:03.680
No, her dad thinks I'm absolutely crazy that Bigfoot doesn't exist,

670
00:34:04.079 --> 00:34:09.320
and she is a huge Bigfoot believer, but she just

671
00:34:09.440 --> 00:34:14.000
can't hear about it me seeing it versus we watched

672
00:34:14.079 --> 00:34:17.039
Expedition Bigfoot on TV together. I just don't know if

673
00:34:17.079 --> 00:34:18.840
she doesn't want to believe it's as close to home

674
00:34:18.840 --> 00:34:21.800
as she wants to think it is, or I don't know.

675
00:34:22.400 --> 00:34:24.519
Oh, so you start talking to her about how I

676
00:34:24.559 --> 00:34:27.199
actually saw one and she's I don't even want to.

677
00:34:27.679 --> 00:34:29.559
Yeah, I believe you. I don't want to hear it.

678
00:34:29.639 --> 00:34:31.199
I don't want to be scared to drive a night

679
00:34:31.239 --> 00:34:32.639
for my parents. And I also got it.

680
00:34:32.880 --> 00:34:36.639
You said this was near Born Darf's Rainbow Trout.

681
00:34:36.360 --> 00:34:38.519
Farm, Yeah, Trout Farm.

682
00:34:38.639 --> 00:34:42.679
Did you ever go and talk to them about it

683
00:34:42.719 --> 00:34:43.039
at all?

684
00:34:43.719 --> 00:34:46.440
No? I probably shouldn't, And I just I'm just so

685
00:34:46.480 --> 00:34:48.079
scared people are going to look at me and be like,

686
00:34:48.119 --> 00:34:50.639
what is wrong with you? I think I'm like crazy,

687
00:34:51.119 --> 00:34:54.880
got I can It's just crazy, this thing. It's embedded

688
00:34:54.880 --> 00:34:57.000
in my brain. I've had nightmares about this thing just

689
00:34:57.079 --> 00:34:57.960
chasing me down.

690
00:34:58.639 --> 00:35:03.400
Do you mind if I ask if you questions about Okay,

691
00:35:04.039 --> 00:35:07.360
were you able to see a color of if there's

692
00:35:07.400 --> 00:35:08.880
any hair on it at all.

693
00:35:10.400 --> 00:35:13.559
Dark brown to black. It being at night, it was

694
00:35:14.079 --> 00:35:16.679
just very I would say very dark brown.

695
00:35:17.280 --> 00:35:20.079
Gotcha short or long hair?

696
00:35:20.719 --> 00:35:23.159
It was like if you hold your arms out, the

697
00:35:23.239 --> 00:35:26.559
hair came down like three or four inches, but around

698
00:35:26.679 --> 00:35:29.440
like parts of its face, it had no hair on it.

699
00:35:30.000 --> 00:35:32.840
Okay, what parts of the face did it not have

700
00:35:32.920 --> 00:35:33.400
hair around?

701
00:35:34.000 --> 00:35:37.000
So it looked like somebody who had really long hair

702
00:35:37.039 --> 00:35:40.079
in the face, but I could see its eyebrows and

703
00:35:40.159 --> 00:35:43.960
its forehead didn't have any hair around the top of

704
00:35:44.039 --> 00:35:47.280
its forehead, and then just a little bit below its eyes,

705
00:35:47.320 --> 00:35:50.960
like its cheap bone. But the biggest thing that stuck

706
00:35:51.039 --> 00:35:54.000
out is how wide this thing's mouth was, Like it

707
00:35:54.039 --> 00:35:57.000
looks like it could eat an entire watermelon in one bite.

708
00:35:57.639 --> 00:35:59.320
It's almost like the joker smile.

709
00:36:00.079 --> 00:36:03.199
That's very interesting. Did it have its mouth open at

710
00:36:03.239 --> 00:36:05.159
all or could you see the teeth?

711
00:36:06.000 --> 00:36:07.840
I don't want to say it like this, they almost

712
00:36:07.880 --> 00:36:11.679
got the demonic smile to its face where I could

713
00:36:11.800 --> 00:36:14.559
just see a little bit of teeth, but it was

714
00:36:14.559 --> 00:36:16.880
like almost like it was smiling, and it was just

715
00:36:17.000 --> 00:36:20.840
it was just so creepy. It's so hard to explain it. It

716
00:36:20.880 --> 00:36:22.880
was just like it's the way it looked at me

717
00:36:22.960 --> 00:36:24.840
with its eyes, and once I hit it with the

718
00:36:24.880 --> 00:36:27.159
high beams, then its mouth opened up a little bit

719
00:36:27.639 --> 00:36:30.519
and I was just like what I was just so

720
00:36:30.679 --> 00:36:32.440
blown away. It's crazy.

721
00:36:33.119 --> 00:36:35.000
What did it seem to be conveying with its eyes

722
00:36:35.039 --> 00:36:35.880
when I was looking at you?

723
00:36:36.360 --> 00:36:38.639
It almost felt like it wanted me to get out.

724
00:36:38.440 --> 00:36:39.079
Of the car.

725
00:36:39.719 --> 00:36:42.159
Do you know why it would have or did you

726
00:36:42.159 --> 00:36:43.480
get any feeling as to why.

727
00:36:44.159 --> 00:36:46.119
I don't know. It was just like part of me.

728
00:36:46.199 --> 00:36:48.840
This thing was like looking at me in a way,

729
00:36:49.039 --> 00:36:51.239
come out of the car and then nobody's ever going

730
00:36:51.239 --> 00:36:51.920
to see you again.

731
00:36:52.079 --> 00:36:57.679
It was just, yeah, it was just wild. Can you

732
00:36:57.719 --> 00:36:59.599
describe the nose shape?

733
00:37:00.119 --> 00:37:02.639
It looked like its nose was pushed in a little bit,

734
00:37:02.639 --> 00:37:05.599
but it was like it had like a wider nostril base,

735
00:37:05.880 --> 00:37:07.840
and it was almost like it was like a flat

736
00:37:07.920 --> 00:37:10.039
It looked like almost like a person's nose, but pushed

737
00:37:10.079 --> 00:37:12.440
back a little bit and almost flatter to its face

738
00:37:12.480 --> 00:37:13.960
with wider nostrils.

739
00:37:14.360 --> 00:37:16.199
You're looking at the nose and then you have the

740
00:37:16.280 --> 00:37:19.039
lips underneath with is there a lot of space between

741
00:37:19.239 --> 00:37:21.360
the lips and the nose or it.

742
00:37:22.440 --> 00:37:25.400
Had a lot maybe it was like more of a rounded,

743
00:37:25.760 --> 00:37:29.320
coming down face and everything was just a little bit

744
00:37:29.360 --> 00:37:32.000
more space to part than looking at a human's face.

745
00:37:32.519 --> 00:37:34.559
Sure, Oh, were you able to see ears at all

746
00:37:34.760 --> 00:37:35.280
on the head?

747
00:37:35.920 --> 00:37:37.199
No? Okay?

748
00:37:37.360 --> 00:37:39.320
Was the hair covering them up?

749
00:37:39.440 --> 00:37:40.440
Or yeah?

750
00:37:40.800 --> 00:37:41.559
I would think so?

751
00:37:42.639 --> 00:37:44.960
Okay. Were you able to see like a certain shape

752
00:37:45.000 --> 00:37:45.760
to the head at all?

753
00:37:46.400 --> 00:37:49.199
It was almost it almost looked like it came up,

754
00:37:49.440 --> 00:37:51.599
not almost like a pin on the top of its head,

755
00:37:51.599 --> 00:37:54.119
but like its head came up and it was just

756
00:37:54.159 --> 00:37:56.360
like a little bit like pointy at the top. I

757
00:37:56.400 --> 00:37:58.559
don't want to I don't know how to explain it.

758
00:37:59.000 --> 00:38:00.800
Were you able to tell any thing else about the

759
00:38:00.840 --> 00:38:05.519
creature muscular or pinition wise? Underneath the hair?

760
00:38:06.239 --> 00:38:08.119
It looked like I don't know if you know who

761
00:38:08.159 --> 00:38:11.639
Eddie Hall is, the bodybuilder. It looked it was huge.

762
00:38:11.800 --> 00:38:16.079
This thing was massive. The weird part was is so

763
00:38:16.400 --> 00:38:20.920
I looked at the whole body, and its knees look

764
00:38:21.039 --> 00:38:24.599
like they sit farther down than our knees. It was

765
00:38:24.719 --> 00:38:28.400
just it had very long It was. This thing was insane.

766
00:38:29.039 --> 00:38:33.239
It was huge. It was like looking at a nine

767
00:38:33.280 --> 00:38:37.639
foot tall, high foot wide bodybuilder it was huge.

768
00:38:38.039 --> 00:38:40.760
Were you able to see the hands or arms at all?

769
00:38:40.840 --> 00:38:42.800
Did you notice anything about them?

770
00:38:43.119 --> 00:38:45.119
The hands, So when you looked at the hands, it

771
00:38:45.159 --> 00:38:48.639
looked like the center of its hand had hair, but

772
00:38:48.719 --> 00:38:51.159
towards the end of the fingers it had no hair,

773
00:38:51.639 --> 00:38:56.840
but it had these insanely long fingers like its hands.

774
00:38:57.079 --> 00:39:00.440
Everything was just like it's just it was just crazy.

775
00:39:00.480 --> 00:39:03.159
Everything was so much more more like proportionate.

776
00:39:03.719 --> 00:39:07.679
Gotcha, how would you describe the arms?

777
00:39:08.119 --> 00:39:11.760
The arms were long, but they weren't like I know,

778
00:39:11.800 --> 00:39:13.559
I hear a lot of people say like its hands

779
00:39:13.559 --> 00:39:15.599
were down to its knees. They were close, but it

780
00:39:15.679 --> 00:39:19.320
wasn't like like crazy long arms. But the arms were

781
00:39:19.440 --> 00:39:23.320
very long and very it was just like very tone

782
00:39:23.480 --> 00:39:26.719
like jack looking arms like they were massive.

783
00:39:27.079 --> 00:39:29.440
Would you say anything that made you think you're looking

784
00:39:29.519 --> 00:39:31.880
at like a male or a female, or an adult

785
00:39:32.079 --> 00:39:33.840
or a juvenile or anything like that.

786
00:39:34.199 --> 00:39:36.159
Honestly, I want to say I was looking at a

787
00:39:36.199 --> 00:39:41.800
male just by the pure just size and like how

788
00:39:41.840 --> 00:39:44.519
I felt aggression coming off.

789
00:39:44.320 --> 00:39:45.000
Of this linge.

790
00:39:45.599 --> 00:39:47.280
Were able to see the feet, no, it.

791
00:39:47.280 --> 00:39:49.519
Was almost it was pretty much from like the knees up.

792
00:39:49.760 --> 00:39:53.760
Okay, you said you had peeled out at any time.

793
00:39:53.800 --> 00:39:56.880
Did you get to see the creature walking around or

794
00:39:57.000 --> 00:39:58.000
moving around.

795
00:39:58.360 --> 00:40:00.840
No, I just saw it make that gesture right. I

796
00:40:00.880 --> 00:40:02.960
didn't know if it was coming forward or going to

797
00:40:03.079 --> 00:40:05.159
its right, and I was just I didn't want to

798
00:40:05.159 --> 00:40:06.000
be there anymore.

799
00:40:06.559 --> 00:40:09.239
Yeah, I don't blame you. If you had to categorize

800
00:40:09.280 --> 00:40:12.280
what it looked like, say it looked more like a

801
00:40:12.400 --> 00:40:15.079
human or an ape, or if you could put it

802
00:40:15.119 --> 00:40:18.119
into any category like that. Could you put it into

803
00:40:18.159 --> 00:40:19.639
a certain category.

804
00:40:19.639 --> 00:40:23.920
It'd say it looked like sixty eight to seventy percent,

805
00:40:24.960 --> 00:40:29.159
eight and thirty percent. Even its hands looked like hours.

806
00:40:29.199 --> 00:40:32.800
Its face structure is like hours. But everything is just

807
00:40:32.880 --> 00:40:36.320
other than its lips being its mouth being so wide,

808
00:40:36.960 --> 00:40:41.199
and its eyes were a lot bigger. I will never

809
00:40:41.280 --> 00:40:44.119
be able to forget its eyes. It was just like

810
00:40:45.039 --> 00:40:47.400
it's almost like you take two eggs and put it

811
00:40:47.440 --> 00:40:52.079
on a face. And the color of the eyes, it

812
00:40:52.159 --> 00:40:56.280
was like a reddish greenish tint to the eyes, which

813
00:40:56.320 --> 00:40:58.360
I could have red eyes. And then my high beams

814
00:40:58.440 --> 00:41:01.159
reflecting off its eyes made it looked like that, but

815
00:41:01.960 --> 00:41:03.840
it had tints of bread in its eyes.

816
00:41:04.599 --> 00:41:07.280
You said it reminded you of an ape in some ways.

817
00:41:07.599 --> 00:41:11.559
Any particular ape or just the broad category of ape.

818
00:41:12.119 --> 00:41:14.840
I can't remember what it was called, but doctor Jeff

819
00:41:14.840 --> 00:41:17.199
Malgrum talks about them all the time, The great, the

820
00:41:17.280 --> 00:41:19.960
giant ape, it was all. It reminds me a lot

821
00:41:20.000 --> 00:41:22.599
of that. But it just looking at it and it

822
00:41:22.840 --> 00:41:25.199
didn't talk to me in my brain though it had

823
00:41:25.320 --> 00:41:28.639
some higher form of intelligence by just looking at it

824
00:41:28.920 --> 00:41:31.599
and gauging what's each other's next motion going to be.

825
00:41:31.719 --> 00:41:33.880
I felt like it planned out how I planned out.

826
00:41:34.280 --> 00:41:36.199
If this happens, I'm going to do this, but if

827
00:41:36.239 --> 00:41:37.480
this happens, I'm going to do that.

828
00:41:38.239 --> 00:41:41.119
Almost like it was playing a weird game of chess

829
00:41:41.159 --> 00:41:41.480
with you.

830
00:41:41.519 --> 00:41:44.559
As this sounds like, Yeah, it was like it was

831
00:41:44.599 --> 00:41:46.440
trying to plot my move while I was trying to

832
00:41:46.480 --> 00:41:51.119
plot its move, which is just terrifying because nothing in

833
00:41:51.119 --> 00:41:54.599
the woods should be like that smart in my opinion.

834
00:41:54.920 --> 00:41:57.960
Right, did you drive back to the same area ever

835
00:41:58.159 --> 00:41:59.159
to take a look at it?

836
00:41:59.559 --> 00:42:02.400
Yes, I actually have gotten my buddy who I used

837
00:42:02.400 --> 00:42:04.480
to work with involved, and he was about six '

838
00:42:04.480 --> 00:42:08.159
four and he's a bigfoot guy, and I had him

839
00:42:08.199 --> 00:42:12.840
go stand in that exact same spot and I flipped,

840
00:42:12.880 --> 00:42:14.760
I turned the car around and drove down the road

841
00:42:14.800 --> 00:42:18.480
and he was just nothing size wise compared to this thing.

842
00:42:19.119 --> 00:42:20.880
It took me a good two weeks to go back

843
00:42:20.920 --> 00:42:22.719
to her parents' house because I just was like, I

844
00:42:22.760 --> 00:42:24.480
don't want to see this thing again. What happens if

845
00:42:24.480 --> 00:42:25.960
it's standing in the middle of the road when I

846
00:42:26.039 --> 00:42:26.719
leave this time?

847
00:42:26.880 --> 00:42:30.000
Not a thing that you want to have around your

848
00:42:30.039 --> 00:42:31.599
fiance's place.

849
00:42:32.320 --> 00:42:36.440
No, and I go. Her dad has one hundred acres

850
00:42:36.920 --> 00:42:39.920
and the property at George Washington National Force is maybe

851
00:42:39.960 --> 00:42:43.480
half a mile from where I saw this, maybe because

852
00:42:43.519 --> 00:42:45.960
her parents property bucks up to the National Force.

853
00:42:46.639 --> 00:42:50.840
It is not surprising. I know it's a very large forest, raight.

854
00:42:51.599 --> 00:42:52.000
Yeah.

855
00:42:52.079 --> 00:42:57.320
I've talked to a few people about things save encountered

856
00:42:58.039 --> 00:43:01.119
in somewhere around that forest. They had to be a

857
00:43:01.119 --> 00:43:05.679
little vague, but I'm not surprised at all that you

858
00:43:05.800 --> 00:43:11.280
had that sighting. Your fiance's father is not into bigfoot

859
00:43:11.320 --> 00:43:14.719
at all. Have you ever asked him if he's experienced

860
00:43:14.760 --> 00:43:19.079
anything out of the ordinary while hunting, though.

861
00:43:19.360 --> 00:43:20.719
See, that's what I was gonna say.

862
00:43:20.920 --> 00:43:21.960
I think he has.

863
00:43:22.239 --> 00:43:25.639
He's too scared to talk about it. Because this man

864
00:43:25.760 --> 00:43:27.880
literally grew up in the hill in the mountains of

865
00:43:27.880 --> 00:43:31.880
Pennsylvania and hunted his entire life, and all of a

866
00:43:31.920 --> 00:43:34.360
sudden he doesn't like hunting by himself. He will not

867
00:43:34.440 --> 00:43:36.519
go back on, but he will not hunt by himself.

868
00:43:36.920 --> 00:43:38.159
I won't hunt by myself.

869
00:43:38.280 --> 00:43:40.960
But he won't say why he doesn't go hunting by

870
00:43:41.039 --> 00:43:41.800
himself anymore.

871
00:43:42.400 --> 00:43:46.519
No, he won't. It's just he just doesn't. He refuses to.

872
00:43:46.599 --> 00:43:48.760
It seems something there, dude, so.

873
00:43:48.880 --> 00:43:51.119
He won't talk about it. He's too much of a

874
00:43:51.159 --> 00:43:53.719
macho type of a guy to talk about it.

875
00:43:54.119 --> 00:43:57.679
Hopefully someday, maybe give him a few years. Who knows.

876
00:43:57.800 --> 00:44:02.639
Will You have experienced some really interesting things, and I

877
00:44:02.719 --> 00:44:06.519
don't think that your story is over, even though you

878
00:44:06.639 --> 00:44:10.280
might want it to be over. Regarding it, sounds like

879
00:44:10.320 --> 00:44:14.559
you're not really wanting to have any more bigfoot encounters.

880
00:44:14.679 --> 00:44:16.280
I don't know is that true?

881
00:44:16.480 --> 00:44:21.440
Or I would love to experience it again, but in

882
00:44:21.480 --> 00:44:27.239
a different type of a situation. I wouldn't mind seeing

883
00:44:27.280 --> 00:44:30.719
a bigfoot again in person. It would just I don't

884
00:44:30.760 --> 00:44:33.199
want to be in my car driving at night. If

885
00:44:33.239 --> 00:44:34.400
I want to see this thing, I want to see

886
00:44:34.400 --> 00:44:37.519
this thing with a gun. Because if you can plot

887
00:44:37.519 --> 00:44:40.239
out my next move to where I'm going to try

888
00:44:40.280 --> 00:44:42.079
to turn and run away, and you're gonna chase me.

889
00:44:42.239 --> 00:44:44.599
I at least want to have a fighting chance. But

890
00:44:44.679 --> 00:44:47.440
I don't even know if a two, two, three or

891
00:44:47.480 --> 00:44:51.039
five five six bullets it might just laugh. I don't

892
00:44:51.079 --> 00:44:54.679
know how powerful this thing is, and I just want

893
00:44:54.679 --> 00:44:56.000
to have a fighting chance.

894
00:44:56.840 --> 00:45:16.079
Big for society. Who will be right back after these messages? Gotcha?

895
00:45:16.239 --> 00:45:19.960
So that's for protection more than trying to get a specimen.

896
00:45:20.000 --> 00:45:23.679
It sounds yeah, I don't After seeing this thing's face,

897
00:45:23.840 --> 00:45:25.880
I don't think I could pull the trigger. But if

898
00:45:25.880 --> 00:45:29.599
it's so little side note, I used to be a

899
00:45:29.679 --> 00:45:33.400
deputy sheriff, so in my brain I'm wired. If it's

900
00:45:33.480 --> 00:45:37.280
me or you, it's me going home. So I'd like

901
00:45:37.360 --> 00:45:39.840
to see this thing peacefully. But if it's gonna attack me,

902
00:45:39.880 --> 00:45:41.760
I'm at least gonna try to make it home.

903
00:45:42.840 --> 00:45:44.280
That's a big side note.

904
00:45:44.679 --> 00:45:47.480
Yeah, sorry, earlier, I guess.

905
00:45:47.360 --> 00:45:50.920
I should have asked the deputy's sheriff. Part was that

906
00:45:51.559 --> 00:45:52.840
when did that take place?

907
00:45:52.960 --> 00:45:55.159
So I was a deputy sheriff from twenty one to

908
00:45:55.199 --> 00:45:55.960
twenty twenty two.

909
00:45:56.719 --> 00:45:59.360
Okay, so that was taking place during some of your

910
00:45:59.639 --> 00:46:02.159
big interactions, you know.

911
00:46:02.119 --> 00:46:03.920
Which I actually talked to a lot of the guys

912
00:46:03.960 --> 00:46:06.519
I worked with, and I have some if you ever

913
00:46:06.519 --> 00:46:09.199
want to do part two, I have some other crazy

914
00:46:09.239 --> 00:46:12.480
stories I could tell you from those guys, oh really

915
00:46:13.800 --> 00:46:17.559
big with the skin Walker to UFOs. I've talked to

916
00:46:17.599 --> 00:46:19.679
them all and they're all pretty open about it.

917
00:46:20.159 --> 00:46:22.280
This is like West Virginia, suff.

918
00:46:22.039 --> 00:46:24.639
This is in the Rockingham County, Virginia.

919
00:46:25.000 --> 00:46:26.760
Oh yeah, we're definitely setting that up.

920
00:46:27.239 --> 00:46:31.199
I hear for another hour. Yeah, oh yeah, definitely.

921
00:46:31.280 --> 00:46:34.719
Yeah, let's see what we will. Definitely set that up

922
00:46:34.719 --> 00:46:38.119
because that sounds like it could be very interesting for sure.

923
00:46:38.639 --> 00:46:42.480
And actually that goes for all listeners. If you used

924
00:46:42.480 --> 00:46:46.760
to be law enforcement and you have info about stuff

925
00:46:46.800 --> 00:46:50.360
that your department used to deal with that sounds like that,

926
00:46:51.360 --> 00:46:55.159
contact me big for Society gmail dot com. But will

927
00:46:55.239 --> 00:46:59.199
this has been a very interesting chat and I'll be

928
00:46:59.239 --> 00:47:02.519
interested to see if you come up with any more

929
00:47:02.679 --> 00:47:07.360
information after you contact your grandparents and that about the

930
00:47:07.480 --> 00:47:13.559
cabin area. But any closing thoughts before we head out

931
00:47:13.559 --> 00:47:14.480
for the night, or.

932
00:47:15.039 --> 00:47:17.239
If anybody wants to reach out to me, they can

933
00:47:17.280 --> 00:47:20.920
find me on Facebook. My name is William Franzosa fr

934
00:47:21.119 --> 00:47:25.719
A and ZSA and I'd be more than welcome to

935
00:47:25.800 --> 00:47:28.480
hearing your stories, to helping you out, or if you

936
00:47:28.559 --> 00:47:30.760
just want to talk about it and don't want to

937
00:47:30.800 --> 00:47:32.480
share it on the air like this because I know

938
00:47:32.519 --> 00:47:34.840
it's a lot and just need to get it off

939
00:47:34.920 --> 00:47:36.480
your chest. I'm available to talk.

940
00:47:37.079 --> 00:47:39.400
That's great. And the cool thing about Will is that

941
00:47:39.440 --> 00:47:42.840
he has that he's had those that face to face interaction.

942
00:47:43.639 --> 00:47:47.440
He will definitely be able to relate in different ways

943
00:47:47.519 --> 00:47:51.440
for sure, as I have yet to have that. Well,

944
00:47:51.599 --> 00:47:53.639
it's good to talk to you, and it' spent a

945
00:47:53.679 --> 00:47:56.039
little bit of time coming for us to chat, but

946
00:47:56.079 --> 00:47:59.360
I'm glad we were finally able to chat. Thank you

947
00:47:59.360 --> 00:48:02.559
so much for cominging on tonight. Definitely, thank you all

948
00:48:02.599 --> 00:48:05.000
right big for society. I've got the privilege of talking

949
00:48:05.039 --> 00:48:08.280
to Don. He reached out to me from Eastern Tennessee

950
00:48:08.360 --> 00:48:13.840
about some interesting things he experienced a few years back.

951
00:48:14.039 --> 00:48:14.280
Don.

952
00:48:14.320 --> 00:48:15.320
How's it going today?

953
00:48:16.000 --> 00:48:19.039
It sounds good, Jeremiah, And everything's going great, man. Today's

954
00:48:19.039 --> 00:48:21.559
it's been until day. I've been relaxing and getting things

955
00:48:21.599 --> 00:48:22.400
done around the house.

956
00:48:23.039 --> 00:48:25.239
That's great. I remember when you reached out to me,

957
00:48:25.360 --> 00:48:28.320
and it's a very interesting story.

958
00:48:28.440 --> 00:48:30.559
All right, man, Do I have the floor? Yes?

959
00:48:30.639 --> 00:48:34.320
Sir, all right, sounds good man, Okay, like Jeremiah was saying,

960
00:48:34.360 --> 00:48:37.119
my name is Don. I've been living in East Tennessee

961
00:48:37.239 --> 00:48:40.400
for the past two going on three years now, and

962
00:48:40.440 --> 00:48:43.039
I'm not the last year of twenty three.

963
00:48:43.079 --> 00:48:44.199
This was twenty twenty two.

964
00:48:44.280 --> 00:48:47.599
In November, I decided to rent a cabin and go

965
00:48:47.679 --> 00:48:51.039
spending some time with my fiance for her birthday in

966
00:48:51.119 --> 00:48:53.800
the mountains. And exactly where we were is about two

967
00:48:53.880 --> 00:48:56.360
and a half, no, about two hours north of us,

968
00:48:56.880 --> 00:48:59.880
and we were in the Gatlinburg, Severville and Pidgeon Ford.

969
00:49:00.679 --> 00:49:03.880
And for anyone who is familiar with this area, it's

970
00:49:03.920 --> 00:49:07.840
three different cities, but they're literally ten minutes apart from

971
00:49:07.920 --> 00:49:11.360
each other. So that's where everything started and that where

972
00:49:11.400 --> 00:49:14.599
we had our first experience. So just to get started, man,

973
00:49:14.719 --> 00:49:17.039
the day of that we had the cabin, we decided

974
00:49:17.079 --> 00:49:19.920
to go ahead and head down and get there while

975
00:49:19.920 --> 00:49:22.119
it was still daylight because like I said, this was

976
00:49:22.119 --> 00:49:25.159
in November. Actually it was November.

977
00:49:26.719 --> 00:49:27.400
It was the first.

978
00:49:27.880 --> 00:49:29.800
Okay, it was November the first, but it was in

979
00:49:29.880 --> 00:49:33.280
celebration of her birthday for the seventh and I'm pretty

980
00:49:33.280 --> 00:49:35.800
sure the seventh was like just it wasn't a weekend

981
00:49:35.840 --> 00:49:38.159
where we were going to have time anyway. So we

982
00:49:38.239 --> 00:49:40.960
head up to the cabins and everything, and it was

983
00:49:41.000 --> 00:49:43.559
just me and my fiancee who went out first, her

984
00:49:43.599 --> 00:49:45.480
brother and his girlfriend.

985
00:49:45.840 --> 00:49:47.679
They came out a little bit later.

986
00:49:48.199 --> 00:49:50.400
So what ended up happening is we got there at

987
00:49:50.400 --> 00:49:53.159
a pretty decent time. It was still daylight, and after

988
00:49:53.199 --> 00:49:55.440
we got comfortable with the cab and we wanted to

989
00:49:55.440 --> 00:49:57.400
go and grab a bite to eat. So we drove

990
00:49:57.480 --> 00:50:01.719
about twelve minutes up the road to gatlin Right Gatlinburg, yep.

991
00:50:01.960 --> 00:50:04.320
So we went to Gatlinburg, sat down at a nice

992
00:50:04.360 --> 00:50:08.280
Mexican restaurant. About nine o'clock, we headed back to the cabin.

993
00:50:08.639 --> 00:50:11.440
It was dark, not pitch black, but it was pretty dark.

994
00:50:11.519 --> 00:50:13.960
Like I said, we were up in the cabin area.

995
00:50:14.880 --> 00:50:17.440
We're just in there hanging out or whatever, just trying

996
00:50:17.480 --> 00:50:21.280
to stay up, and we're just checking out things and

997
00:50:21.280 --> 00:50:22.440
seeing how things are going.

998
00:50:22.679 --> 00:50:24.599
So we decided to go to the back.

999
00:50:24.639 --> 00:50:28.760
On the back deck, there was a deck overlooking a valley.

1000
00:50:28.800 --> 00:50:31.599
And you could see for miles man a long ways.

1001
00:50:31.840 --> 00:50:34.440
We went out, decided to go and get in the

1002
00:50:34.480 --> 00:50:37.480
hot tub, just killing and things like that. We did

1003
00:50:37.559 --> 00:50:41.239
have wine, but this is when things got weird. Okay,

1004
00:50:41.599 --> 00:50:43.639
So we're sitting out in the hot tub, had to

1005
00:50:43.639 --> 00:50:44.559
be about ten.

1006
00:50:44.440 --> 00:50:45.320
Minutes at the most.

1007
00:50:45.400 --> 00:50:47.880
We're just out there hanging out and joining the time

1008
00:50:47.960 --> 00:50:51.199
being spent together. And next thing, man, just out of

1009
00:50:51.199 --> 00:50:55.559
the blue, my fiance she just lost control of herself.

1010
00:50:55.599 --> 00:50:57.039
And what I mean by that, for a lack of

1011
00:50:57.079 --> 00:51:01.400
better term, she almost fainted is I just went right

1012
00:51:01.400 --> 00:51:04.039
away and I grabbed her and I'm like, what's wrong,

1013
00:51:04.079 --> 00:51:05.519
and she's like, I'm lightheaded.

1014
00:51:05.559 --> 00:51:07.840
I need to lay down. So I helped her out

1015
00:51:07.840 --> 00:51:09.880
of the hot I go take her to the rooms.

1016
00:51:09.920 --> 00:51:12.239
I'm just gonna lay down now. Like I said, we

1017
00:51:12.360 --> 00:51:14.760
had wine, but we had never even drunk it. It was

1018
00:51:14.800 --> 00:51:19.039
still actually defrosting on this little table area which is

1019
00:51:19.119 --> 00:51:22.519
on the back deck and there's two rocking chairs back there. Also,

1020
00:51:23.079 --> 00:51:25.440
I get her in the house and everything and all

1021
00:51:25.480 --> 00:51:26.320
the way up until this.

1022
00:51:26.280 --> 00:51:27.639
Point meant nothing happening.

1023
00:51:27.760 --> 00:51:29.480
Like I said, she got her in the house, in

1024
00:51:29.519 --> 00:51:32.599
the cabin, she laid down or whatever. So I said, hey, babe,

1025
00:51:32.639 --> 00:51:34.320
I'm gonna go and get this wine and put it

1026
00:51:34.360 --> 00:51:37.960
back in the freezer for later. She's okay, now, Jeremiah,

1027
00:51:38.159 --> 00:51:40.360
I didn't mention this part, but earlier when we got

1028
00:51:40.360 --> 00:51:40.920
to the cabin.

1029
00:51:40.960 --> 00:51:43.119
When we first got there, we did see a black bear.

1030
00:51:43.639 --> 00:51:46.320
And now, looking off the deck, if you look to

1031
00:51:46.400 --> 00:51:49.199
the right, there's the hot on the deck. Actually, if

1032
00:51:49.199 --> 00:51:52.119
you look off over the deck to the right, there's

1033
00:51:52.159 --> 00:51:53.079
a cabin there.

1034
00:51:53.119 --> 00:51:54.719
But the cabin was unfinished.

1035
00:51:54.760 --> 00:51:57.280
You could tell that it was being renovated or it

1036
00:51:57.360 --> 00:52:00.239
was probably new getting finished. Now, if you look to

1037
00:52:00.280 --> 00:52:03.000
the left, we had one neighbor who was right there

1038
00:52:03.880 --> 00:52:05.840
and we never really even saw them.

1039
00:52:06.280 --> 00:52:08.000
But back to the initial part.

1040
00:52:08.360 --> 00:52:10.719
When I walked to the back door, there's a double

1041
00:52:10.800 --> 00:52:13.360
door like the I don't know what they call it,

1042
00:52:13.360 --> 00:52:15.400
but it's the big door, the wooden door with the

1043
00:52:15.400 --> 00:52:18.599
big glass, like the five foot glass or whatever, and

1044
00:52:18.639 --> 00:52:21.400
it's a double door. So I walked to the door

1045
00:52:21.719 --> 00:52:25.000
and I opened the back door. When I opened the door,

1046
00:52:25.559 --> 00:52:29.000
I stepped one foot on the balcony, and man, I

1047
00:52:29.039 --> 00:52:34.039
heard the largest when I say largest of the largest footsteps.

1048
00:52:33.400 --> 00:52:34.760
I've ever heard in my life.

1049
00:52:35.239 --> 00:52:38.199
And what was crazy is logically, because I'm a logical

1050
00:52:38.239 --> 00:52:41.480
thinker first, and like I told you earlier, I've always

1051
00:52:41.559 --> 00:52:43.639
known about sasquatch and things like that.

1052
00:52:43.719 --> 00:52:46.519
But that was the furthest thing from my mind.

1053
00:52:46.760 --> 00:52:48.639
Like I said, I stepped one foot out and I

1054
00:52:48.719 --> 00:52:51.880
hear some big footsteps. And what happened is whatever it

1055
00:52:52.000 --> 00:52:54.719
was to this day, I don't like to just say bigfoot,

1056
00:52:54.719 --> 00:52:57.280
but man, trust me, I know exactly what it was.

1057
00:52:57.800 --> 00:53:00.320
Those footsteps ran from under this deck.

1058
00:53:00.599 --> 00:53:03.719
Now this deck is about twelve to fifteen feet off

1059
00:53:03.719 --> 00:53:07.039
of the ground, but since it's on a I guess

1060
00:53:07.079 --> 00:53:11.239
a elevated area, the right side of the cabin is

1061
00:53:11.480 --> 00:53:14.519
like ground level to the deck, but the left side

1062
00:53:14.519 --> 00:53:16.800
of the cabin is, like I said, that distance of

1063
00:53:16.840 --> 00:53:20.400
about twelve to fifteen feet. So I paused in my

1064
00:53:20.480 --> 00:53:24.440
foot I paused in my tracks when I heard those footsteps. Now,

1065
00:53:24.519 --> 00:53:26.760
keep in mind, we saw a bear earlier that day

1066
00:53:26.840 --> 00:53:29.119
and we saw it come up the valley and go

1067
00:53:29.199 --> 00:53:32.039
over there to that abandoned cabin area, and it was

1068
00:53:32.119 --> 00:53:35.480
just fundling around, man, maybe for about fifteen minutes. We

1069
00:53:35.559 --> 00:53:38.400
just literally just saw it. We never heard that bear

1070
00:53:38.719 --> 00:53:41.440
taking its steps, So that had already went out of

1071
00:53:41.440 --> 00:53:44.960
my mind. And what was more even crazier about the situation.

1072
00:53:45.719 --> 00:53:48.360
Whatever it was it took, it ran from under that

1073
00:53:48.480 --> 00:53:52.039
deck and it stopped in some tall weeds if I'm

1074
00:53:52.079 --> 00:53:53.960
looking off the back of the deck down into that

1075
00:53:54.079 --> 00:53:57.920
valley were if it was a regular person, you couldn't

1076
00:53:57.960 --> 00:54:01.400
walk no more than twenty feet without literally sliding down

1077
00:54:01.440 --> 00:54:01.920
that valley.

1078
00:54:02.000 --> 00:54:04.800
And for a person to actually get up that valley.

1079
00:54:04.760 --> 00:54:07.800
You would definitely need climbing gear, cleaps in the something

1080
00:54:07.840 --> 00:54:10.960
that will support your weight, because man, it's just folly.

1081
00:54:11.000 --> 00:54:12.400
It just leaves and trees.

1082
00:54:12.440 --> 00:54:14.760
And later on, man, I would definitely see you the

1083
00:54:14.840 --> 00:54:16.760
pictures and the views and things like that.

1084
00:54:16.920 --> 00:54:20.280
And another thing I didn't tell you is we actually caught.

1085
00:54:20.079 --> 00:54:23.599
Something on camera and Jeremiah, when you see these pictures, man,

1086
00:54:24.039 --> 00:54:26.360
you're gonna be freaked out. And what I did was

1087
00:54:26.400 --> 00:54:28.639
I did a lot of comparison of that picture that

1088
00:54:28.960 --> 00:54:32.519
I did capture to a lot of not tired standing.

1089
00:54:32.599 --> 00:54:34.960
Man. It's the other guy. He just recently passed.

1090
00:54:35.159 --> 00:54:37.039
I can't think of his name right now, but he's

1091
00:54:37.079 --> 00:54:41.159
also from East Tennessee. But anyway, so what was the

1092
00:54:41.239 --> 00:54:44.880
craziest part about this is whatever that was ran from

1093
00:54:44.960 --> 00:54:48.079
under there and it stopped cold dead in his tracks.

1094
00:54:48.400 --> 00:54:51.840
So I'm frozen, man, because the footsteps, it just freaked

1095
00:54:51.880 --> 00:54:53.760
me out. So I closed the door. I didn't even

1096
00:54:53.800 --> 00:54:55.679
grab the wine. I closed the door. I was like, hey,

1097
00:54:55.760 --> 00:54:57.639
I need you to come hear this. Something just ran

1098
00:54:57.679 --> 00:54:59.840
from under the deck. So she's what do you mean,

1099
00:55:00.079 --> 00:55:02.719
said Bay, I saw, I just heard some loud footsteps.

1100
00:55:02.880 --> 00:55:04.480
Something just ran from under this deck.

1101
00:55:04.960 --> 00:55:07.239
And so after that or whatever, like I said, whatever

1102
00:55:07.280 --> 00:55:10.079
it was, it stopped. So I get her. I gathered her.

1103
00:55:10.119 --> 00:55:12.119
She felt she was feeling better at the time, so

1104
00:55:12.159 --> 00:55:14.159
I said, just come sit out here. Now.

1105
00:55:14.599 --> 00:55:18.679
We had this led disco ball light and we had

1106
00:55:18.679 --> 00:55:19.360
it plugged up.

1107
00:55:19.320 --> 00:55:22.119
And it's actually a Bluetooth speaker and these lights.

1108
00:55:22.199 --> 00:55:24.480
Man, I'm pretty sure you could see these lights for

1109
00:55:24.559 --> 00:55:25.360
a good distance.

1110
00:55:25.440 --> 00:55:28.519
I'm pretty sure this was the root cause of all

1111
00:55:28.559 --> 00:55:30.559
of this encounter of what happened.

1112
00:55:31.320 --> 00:55:34.320
So back to the part. So I gathered her. I said, look,

1113
00:55:34.519 --> 00:55:36.199
we're gonna go out here and sit down. I want

1114
00:55:36.199 --> 00:55:37.840
you to be real quiet and just tell me what

1115
00:55:37.880 --> 00:55:43.199
you hear. Unknowingly to me, whatever it was had got

1116
00:55:43.239 --> 00:55:45.440
back under the deck from the time I went in

1117
00:55:45.440 --> 00:55:47.079
the house to get her, cause, like I said, I

1118
00:55:47.159 --> 00:55:49.920
never stepped fully on the deck. I only put one

1119
00:55:49.960 --> 00:55:52.400
foot out there, and it ran from under there. So,

1120
00:55:52.639 --> 00:55:54.519
like I said, on to the next part, We're sitting

1121
00:55:54.559 --> 00:55:58.400
out there and we're just hearing like footsteps. We're just

1122
00:55:58.440 --> 00:56:03.079
hearing footsteps. And after that part, just a distance away,

1123
00:56:03.119 --> 00:56:05.079
because like I said, you can see a different mountain

1124
00:56:05.079 --> 00:56:05.880
piece and everything.

1125
00:56:06.320 --> 00:56:08.599
Further in the distance, you can hear something.

1126
00:56:08.599 --> 00:56:12.920
It sounded like someone yelling, but it didn't sound normal,

1127
00:56:13.159 --> 00:56:15.679
if that makes sense. She's sitting out there on my lap,

1128
00:56:15.800 --> 00:56:18.159
she said. We're both sitting in one of the rocking chairs.

1129
00:56:18.360 --> 00:56:18.760
We sat.

1130
00:56:18.760 --> 00:56:21.719
We actually sat in a rocking chair close to the door.

1131
00:56:22.079 --> 00:56:24.159
At this point, I unplugged the lights because I was

1132
00:56:24.199 --> 00:56:26.639
freaked out. I unplugged the lights, not even thinking that

1133
00:56:26.679 --> 00:56:28.840
the lights was the calls. At this point, I just

1134
00:56:28.880 --> 00:56:31.519
unplugged the lights and went back there and sat down.

1135
00:56:31.519 --> 00:56:33.400
So we turned off the porch light also. So she's

1136
00:56:33.400 --> 00:56:37.079
sitting there and she steady hearing something under us moving

1137
00:56:37.519 --> 00:56:39.320
and she was like, Bay, I'm scared. I'm about to

1138
00:56:39.320 --> 00:56:41.079
go in the house. So she was like, I gotta

1139
00:56:41.079 --> 00:56:42.960
go use the restroom. So she went in the house

1140
00:56:43.000 --> 00:56:45.960
and she used the restroom. So I call her brother

1141
00:56:46.440 --> 00:56:48.800
and around this time, man, this is like around ten

1142
00:56:48.960 --> 00:56:50.519
thirty eleven o'clock, so I call them.

1143
00:56:50.639 --> 00:56:52.000
I'm like, hey, Jay, where you guys.

1144
00:56:52.320 --> 00:56:54.920
They're like, man, we're in Knoxville now, We're probably like

1145
00:56:54.960 --> 00:56:57.639
another hour and a half away. I was like, man, listen,

1146
00:56:57.679 --> 00:56:59.760
I don't know what this is, bro, but I just

1147
00:56:59.840 --> 00:57:02.880
heard something big run from under this deck. So him

1148
00:57:02.880 --> 00:57:05.719
and his girlfriend, I had just moved here, so she her,

1149
00:57:05.760 --> 00:57:07.199
excuse us, you're.

1150
00:57:07.039 --> 00:57:09.559
Not from here. It's probably just bears and you.

1151
00:57:09.639 --> 00:57:12.280
Just so you're not comfortable with the mountains yet. I

1152
00:57:12.320 --> 00:57:14.559
was like, okay, I know how a bear sound. We

1153
00:57:14.599 --> 00:57:17.360
saw a bar earlier. The barrett was at least three

1154
00:57:17.480 --> 00:57:20.199
hundred pounds somewhere in there. I'm not really good with weights.

1155
00:57:20.199 --> 00:57:22.679
I'm gonna say three hundred some pounds. We couldn't even

1156
00:57:22.679 --> 00:57:24.360
hear this bear when it was walking. And we watched

1157
00:57:24.400 --> 00:57:27.079
this bear for about fifteen minutes. Told him I'm on

1158
00:57:27.119 --> 00:57:29.159
the call, and I'm like, listen, man, y'all just.

1159
00:57:29.199 --> 00:57:29.679
Let us know.

1160
00:57:29.760 --> 00:57:32.440
When y'all close, we can be up and getting around,

1161
00:57:32.800 --> 00:57:34.000
hung up with them or whatever.

1162
00:57:34.320 --> 00:57:36.280
I go back in the house, my girl. I'm like, babe,

1163
00:57:36.280 --> 00:57:37.920
you're coming back out, you know. I'm okay.

1164
00:57:38.119 --> 00:57:40.079
So I was like, you know what, forget it. Let's

1165
00:57:40.159 --> 00:57:42.480
just try to lay down or whatever and relax until

1166
00:57:42.480 --> 00:57:45.639
your brother gets here, we go in the house and

1167
00:57:45.760 --> 00:57:46.880
we fall asleep.

1168
00:57:47.159 --> 00:57:47.639
I think he.

1169
00:57:47.639 --> 00:57:51.760
Called us like around what almost two o'clock and he

1170
00:57:51.840 --> 00:57:54.599
was like, hey, man, I'm headed there. I turned off

1171
00:57:54.599 --> 00:57:57.360
the main script. I'm coming up the mountains now. I

1172
00:57:57.440 --> 00:57:59.559
was like, okay, tell me what now. At this point,

1173
00:57:59.599 --> 00:58:02.400
I got back up, I plugged the lights, the LED

1174
00:58:02.559 --> 00:58:05.800
light back up, but the back porch area where the

1175
00:58:05.840 --> 00:58:08.000
deck is, that light stayed off. I never turned that

1176
00:58:08.079 --> 00:58:11.199
light back on. So those lights are just beaming, the

1177
00:58:11.320 --> 00:58:12.039
LED lights.

1178
00:58:12.159 --> 00:58:12.920
He's coming up.

1179
00:58:12.800 --> 00:58:14.800
The mountain and they're like hey, him and his girlfriend

1180
00:58:14.800 --> 00:58:17.039
they're like, man, we keep we're seeing these lights, bro.

1181
00:58:17.480 --> 00:58:19.000
And I was like, what kind of lights? He was like,

1182
00:58:19.079 --> 00:58:21.440
they're colorful. I was like, okay, man, that's the other speaker.

1183
00:58:21.480 --> 00:58:24.039
That's the Bluetooth speaker. He was like for real. I

1184
00:58:24.079 --> 00:58:26.039
was like yeah, he said, bro, we got to be

1185
00:58:26.119 --> 00:58:26.719
close to y'all.

1186
00:58:26.719 --> 00:58:28.960
But he drove at least another seven minutes, seven and

1187
00:58:29.039 --> 00:58:31.400
ten minutes to actually get up there, and he was like, man,

1188
00:58:31.440 --> 00:58:34.800
I saw those lights when we first started actually coming up,

1189
00:58:35.039 --> 00:58:36.679
and I was like, man, that's weird because I didn't

1190
00:58:36.719 --> 00:58:39.199
think that you could see it from that far. So

1191
00:58:39.599 --> 00:58:41.920
him and his girlfriend get there at this time, it's

1192
00:58:42.159 --> 00:58:43.079
a little after two.

1193
00:58:43.480 --> 00:58:45.639
The cabin had it was I don't know the name

1194
00:58:45.639 --> 00:58:47.920
of this game. I guess it's called shuffle board, and

1195
00:58:47.960 --> 00:58:48.360
then they.

1196
00:58:48.239 --> 00:58:50.199
Had a lot of little board games. We brought out

1197
00:58:50.199 --> 00:58:53.079
the wine drink. I'm not a big drinker. I never been.

1198
00:58:53.280 --> 00:58:56.840
Was a celebration. So we're celebrating. So they come, we're

1199
00:58:56.840 --> 00:58:59.199
all hanging out or whatever. We're just out there chilling.

1200
00:58:59.239 --> 00:59:01.599
So I said, look, y'all, I want y'all to come

1201
00:59:01.639 --> 00:59:03.199
on this deck with me and tell me what you

1202
00:59:03.280 --> 00:59:06.519
guys here. They're like, okay, his girlfriend still, oh man,

1203
00:59:06.679 --> 00:59:08.360
I told you this bears this, that and the thing.

1204
00:59:08.440 --> 00:59:11.000
I was like, okay, cool, fine, let's just go sit

1205
00:59:11.000 --> 00:59:11.360
out here.

1206
00:59:11.400 --> 00:59:14.000
I said, look, we're all gonna go out here. I

1207
00:59:14.039 --> 00:59:15.400
want everybody to be quiet.

1208
00:59:15.440 --> 00:59:15.679
Now.

1209
00:59:15.960 --> 00:59:20.360
My brother in law, his girlfriend, she smoked cigarettes, so

1210
00:59:20.519 --> 00:59:22.719
she was standing out there smoking a cigarette and everything,

1211
00:59:22.840 --> 00:59:26.199
which is all standing out there just chilling. I said, listen, everybody,

1212
00:59:26.360 --> 00:59:28.199
just get real quiet. Let's try not to talk to

1213
00:59:28.199 --> 00:59:28.599
each other.

1214
00:59:28.960 --> 00:59:32.440
But we still were whispering to each other whatever it was.

1215
00:59:32.639 --> 00:59:33.280
At the time.

1216
00:59:33.800 --> 00:59:38.440
You could hear something moving slightly through the tall weeds.

1217
00:59:38.480 --> 00:59:42.480
And grass, so you could hear something like sneaking through,

1218
00:59:42.679 --> 00:59:45.800
just moving around. And so what ended up happening is

1219
00:59:45.920 --> 00:59:50.199
I didn't see this, but my brother in law, he said.

1220
00:59:50.360 --> 00:59:52.480
And the reason I didn't see this is because every

1221
00:59:52.480 --> 00:59:55.039
time I heard a noise from a different area, I

1222
00:59:55.159 --> 00:59:56.920
was looking in the area just pointing up.

1223
00:59:56.960 --> 00:59:58.960
Y'all hear that, y'all hear that. All of a sudden,

1224
00:59:59.199 --> 01:00:00.039
they break.

1225
01:00:00.039 --> 01:00:02.840
Off and running the house in the cabin and I'm like,

1226
01:00:02.920 --> 01:00:04.199
why the heck are y'all running that?

1227
01:00:04.280 --> 01:00:05.039
What are y'all doing?

1228
01:00:05.360 --> 01:00:09.679
He was like, Man, I saw something rising up right

1229
01:00:09.719 --> 01:00:11.800
there in those tall grass, he said. I saw like

1230
01:00:11.880 --> 01:00:15.039
half of a head or something, and it was rising up.

1231
01:00:15.079 --> 01:00:17.039
He said. I ran, I said, bro, are y'all serious?

1232
01:00:17.079 --> 01:00:17.880
Or are y'all.

1233
01:00:17.719 --> 01:00:20.599
Playing big for society? Who would be right back? After

1234
01:00:20.639 --> 01:00:21.400
these messages?

1235
01:00:37.400 --> 01:00:40.480
He's bro, I swear I am not lying. I saw something.

1236
01:00:40.480 --> 01:00:40.800
He said.

1237
01:00:40.800 --> 01:00:43.840
He saw the head and like the shoulder area. So

1238
01:00:43.920 --> 01:00:47.159
I'm like, for you, so, let's say the bottom of

1239
01:00:47.239 --> 01:00:50.920
the deck is ten feet give a take two or

1240
01:00:50.960 --> 01:00:54.079
three feet. For him to be able to see something

1241
01:00:54.159 --> 01:00:56.920
down there, it would have had to at least been

1242
01:00:57.000 --> 01:00:59.199
egging to half feet tall. You see what I'm saying,

1243
01:00:59.480 --> 01:01:03.519
because the distance, because we actually walked back there when

1244
01:01:03.559 --> 01:01:05.800
we initially got there while it was still a daytime,

1245
01:01:05.920 --> 01:01:09.559
just to see how everything was in my head, even

1246
01:01:09.679 --> 01:01:12.039
if I reached my arm up, man, I was nowhere

1247
01:01:12.119 --> 01:01:14.239
near the bottom of the deck. So that right there

1248
01:01:14.480 --> 01:01:17.119
it freaked me out. We all in the house and

1249
01:01:17.159 --> 01:01:19.320
we're talking about we're talking about it. At this point,

1250
01:01:19.480 --> 01:01:22.400
his girlfriend is like that, what was that? Like, I said,

1251
01:01:22.519 --> 01:01:24.679
I think everyone saw it but me. But the reason

1252
01:01:24.760 --> 01:01:27.519
I didn't see it is because when we were out there,

1253
01:01:27.559 --> 01:01:30.599
sitting out there being quiet, we just different areas, like

1254
01:01:30.639 --> 01:01:33.239
from the right where an abandoned cabin got abandoned, the

1255
01:01:33.280 --> 01:01:37.320
empty cabin was we were hearing noises over there. We

1256
01:01:37.320 --> 01:01:39.800
were hearing noises to my left over there where we

1257
01:01:39.880 --> 01:01:42.679
did have neighbors in their cabin, and also we were

1258
01:01:42.719 --> 01:01:46.320
hearing noises coming from out of that deep valley. Everybody

1259
01:01:46.440 --> 01:01:48.400
came down and I said, y'all, let's go back out here.

1260
01:01:48.440 --> 01:01:50.360
I was like, let's not make a lot of racket

1261
01:01:50.400 --> 01:01:53.679
and stuff because there's something out here. So this time,

1262
01:01:53.719 --> 01:01:55.840
when we all go back out there, my brother in

1263
01:01:55.920 --> 01:01:58.800
law's girlfriend said, hey, you guys want me to record

1264
01:01:58.800 --> 01:02:01.519
to see if we can catch any thing. I was like, okay, cool,

1265
01:02:01.519 --> 01:02:03.719
But what she didn't record? She did an audio recorder,

1266
01:02:04.000 --> 01:02:06.199
so she went back out there. She was finishing her

1267
01:02:06.239 --> 01:02:08.440
cigarette that she had put out before they ran. Before

1268
01:02:08.440 --> 01:02:10.519
we all ran, I walked in because I didn't see

1269
01:02:10.559 --> 01:02:12.400
what they initially saw, so they ran in.

1270
01:02:12.880 --> 01:02:14.360
So she fired back up her cigarettes.

1271
01:02:14.440 --> 01:02:17.119
She set her phone on the top of the deck,

1272
01:02:17.159 --> 01:02:19.039
and he just turned the speaker towards where we were

1273
01:02:19.039 --> 01:02:22.239
hearing these sounds. Now, Jeremiah, this right here freaked me out,

1274
01:02:22.280 --> 01:02:24.599
and it freaked everybody out. To the right, you're hearing,

1275
01:02:25.239 --> 01:02:28.920
to the left, same thing. Straight ahead, you're hearing all this.

1276
01:02:29.039 --> 01:02:31.400
It had to be at least I'm thinking three or

1277
01:02:31.440 --> 01:02:36.840
more I heard. We all heard a freaking branch, not

1278
01:02:36.920 --> 01:02:39.880
a stick, possibly a log man.

1279
01:02:40.320 --> 01:02:41.400
It just cracked.

1280
01:02:41.519 --> 01:02:44.800
And when I tell you, Jeremiah, everything just see all

1281
01:02:44.840 --> 01:02:46.199
that noise we was hearing.

1282
01:02:46.639 --> 01:02:49.679
Everything ceased and it was so crazy because I called

1283
01:02:49.719 --> 01:02:50.239
to their attention.

1284
01:02:50.320 --> 01:02:52.880
I said, listen, I'm not the smartest person in the world,

1285
01:02:52.880 --> 01:02:55.159
and I'm not even just that avid of a person

1286
01:02:55.199 --> 01:02:59.880
in the woods. But no animal, wolves, bears, coyotes, whatever.

1287
01:03:00.440 --> 01:03:02.639
If they break something while they're walking like if they

1288
01:03:02.679 --> 01:03:05.320
step on something, they're not going to stop. And what

1289
01:03:05.360 --> 01:03:08.440
was crazy whatever that was when it stepped on that.

1290
01:03:08.719 --> 01:03:11.679
We actually have this on recording. We haven't enhanced it

1291
01:03:11.719 --> 01:03:14.599
or anything. It's just on recording. That freaking stick just

1292
01:03:15.159 --> 01:03:18.199
not stick, the log whatever, man branch it cracked so

1293
01:03:18.400 --> 01:03:22.800
loud like someone something either broke it or stepped on it.

1294
01:03:22.880 --> 01:03:27.199
I'm thinking something stepped on it, because when it did that,

1295
01:03:27.320 --> 01:03:28.639
like I said.

1296
01:03:28.280 --> 01:03:31.119
All of the other motions around us it stopped. So

1297
01:03:31.159 --> 01:03:32.760
we're all looking at each other. Did you hear that?

1298
01:03:32.800 --> 01:03:33.199
Did you that?

1299
01:03:33.239 --> 01:03:35.880
And we were like yeah, We're like yeah, So at

1300
01:03:35.920 --> 01:03:38.039
that point I think we then we go back in.

1301
01:03:38.199 --> 01:03:39.920
At that point, yeah, we everybody, we all went back

1302
01:03:39.920 --> 01:03:41.199
in the house. They were like, man, this is too

1303
01:03:41.239 --> 01:03:42.760
freaky for me. This is too creepy.

1304
01:03:43.079 --> 01:03:45.880
So the night goes on, we forget about it.

1305
01:03:45.880 --> 01:03:48.480
We're playing shuffle boards, just hanging out, having fun, listening

1306
01:03:48.480 --> 01:03:50.760
to music, and around this time, man, this is a

1307
01:03:50.800 --> 01:03:53.679
little bit after three. At that point we decided to

1308
01:03:53.679 --> 01:03:55.039
go ahead and lay down because you me and my

1309
01:03:55.119 --> 01:03:57.400
fiance we had already been up waiting on them and

1310
01:03:57.719 --> 01:03:59.599
took a little nap. So we decided to lay down,

1311
01:04:00.159 --> 01:04:02.159
so in the room laying down. No, I'm sorry I

1312
01:04:02.159 --> 01:04:05.480
skipped apart before that. While we were all in there

1313
01:04:05.480 --> 01:04:08.159
playing the game and everything, like in the living room area,

1314
01:04:08.400 --> 01:04:11.800
my fiance went to the bathroom. Now there's two rooms

1315
01:04:11.800 --> 01:04:15.000
in this cabin. On the side that's elevated off the ground,

1316
01:04:15.079 --> 01:04:17.159
real high. That's the side of the cabin, and my

1317
01:04:17.199 --> 01:04:20.079
fiance slept on now the other side of the cabin

1318
01:04:20.119 --> 01:04:23.639
that if you're at their window, you're right their ground level,

1319
01:04:23.639 --> 01:04:25.360
Like you can walk over there and you can be

1320
01:04:25.559 --> 01:04:28.800
right there at the window like a regular level house.

1321
01:04:29.199 --> 01:04:31.599
I told you that specifically because of this point. So

1322
01:04:31.679 --> 01:04:35.119
my fiancee was in our bathroom. Now our bathroom if

1323
01:04:35.199 --> 01:04:37.239
you walk out of our room and go toward the

1324
01:04:37.320 --> 01:04:40.119
kitchen area, so you're looking at the front deck. That

1325
01:04:40.199 --> 01:04:43.159
front deck is connected to the bathroom. You see what

1326
01:04:43.239 --> 01:04:46.000
I'm trying to see? What I'm the picture I'm trying

1327
01:04:46.039 --> 01:04:48.639
to convey. So she came out, she was like, did

1328
01:04:48.639 --> 01:04:50.519
you were you guys tapping on the walls?

1329
01:04:50.920 --> 01:04:53.000
And we were like what. She was like, I just

1330
01:04:53.039 --> 01:04:54.920
heard something tap on the wall. Was it the wall

1331
01:04:54.920 --> 01:04:57.639
of the window, the wall? Okay, she said it was

1332
01:04:57.639 --> 01:04:59.360
the wall so she said something that was tapping. We

1333
01:04:59.400 --> 01:04:59.920
blew that out.

1334
01:05:00.039 --> 01:05:03.239
We weren't even thinking about it. Later on in the night,

1335
01:05:03.360 --> 01:05:06.719
when we decided to lay down in everything, we dozed off. Man,

1336
01:05:06.719 --> 01:05:09.480
I'm in a dead sleep, Jeremiah, I'm in a dead sleep, man,

1337
01:05:09.840 --> 01:05:12.880
And I swear to you I heard this freakish tap.

1338
01:05:13.000 --> 01:05:15.280
Now I won't I'm trying to paint this picture for you.

1339
01:05:15.679 --> 01:05:18.480
On the side of our cabin where we were sleeping.

1340
01:05:18.960 --> 01:05:21.320
The bed is made of pure wood. I don't know

1341
01:05:21.360 --> 01:05:23.440
what kind of wood, but it's literally was made of

1342
01:05:23.519 --> 01:05:27.559
pure wood. The cabin is a pure wooden cabin. Now

1343
01:05:28.199 --> 01:05:31.440
what happened is I heard a freaking tap right above

1344
01:05:31.519 --> 01:05:32.039
my head.

1345
01:05:32.519 --> 01:05:33.800
Now the only thing on.

1346
01:05:33.800 --> 01:05:37.199
That side of the whole cabin is the AC the

1347
01:05:37.840 --> 01:05:43.199
outside AC unit, and Jeremiah, just for me to paint

1348
01:05:43.199 --> 01:05:46.760
the picture. The only way a person could get up

1349
01:05:46.800 --> 01:05:49.199
there and tap where I heard that tap above my

1350
01:05:49.239 --> 01:05:53.280
head in that bed you would probably need one of

1351
01:05:53.280 --> 01:05:56.079
those real big ladders. And to be honest, I don't

1352
01:05:56.079 --> 01:05:58.320
even think that you could do that with that. My

1353
01:05:58.440 --> 01:06:01.840
point is I heard some can tap. Now do you

1354
01:06:01.880 --> 01:06:03.960
know how hard something have to tap for me to

1355
01:06:04.039 --> 01:06:06.800
hear it? Through this wooden cabin in the wooden bit,

1356
01:06:06.960 --> 01:06:09.960
I felt the taps on the headboard of the dead

1357
01:06:10.320 --> 01:06:13.559
So the tap was like tap, and I woke up

1358
01:06:13.559 --> 01:06:16.960
out of my sleep. So I'm like, baby, did you

1359
01:06:17.440 --> 01:06:20.119
around this time? It's about four in the morning. I'm like, babe,

1360
01:06:20.719 --> 01:06:23.559
did you hear that? She was like here what I

1361
01:06:23.599 --> 01:06:24.800
was like, Okay, don't worry about it.

1362
01:06:24.800 --> 01:06:27.760
So my logical mind is thinking, this is a new place.

1363
01:06:27.800 --> 01:06:28.880
I've never been here before.

1364
01:06:28.960 --> 01:06:31.719
It could be something on the roof, something following on

1365
01:06:31.760 --> 01:06:37.519
the roof, or whatever. Man, Jeremiah, this exact same cadence again.

1366
01:06:37.719 --> 01:06:40.159
After I dozed off, it was like three minutes later.

1367
01:06:40.199 --> 01:06:42.360
When you know how you wake up and you almost

1368
01:06:42.440 --> 01:06:46.599
back in their sleep. Tap right above my head again. Bro,

1369
01:06:47.599 --> 01:06:49.719
I lost to Jeremiah. And when I woke up the

1370
01:06:49.760 --> 01:06:52.960
first time, I forgot to mention this when I woke up. Man,

1371
01:06:53.360 --> 01:06:55.599
as a child, when you wake up in the middle

1372
01:06:55.639 --> 01:06:57.840
of the night and it's pitch black and it's just

1373
01:06:57.880 --> 01:07:03.119
this lingering feeling, it's just you're super scared for some reason.

1374
01:07:03.480 --> 01:07:05.920
When I first initially woke up, you know, woke up

1375
01:07:05.920 --> 01:07:09.719
from those that first cadence of taps, Man, I was

1376
01:07:09.840 --> 01:07:13.639
just I was bro I was pure just scared. I

1377
01:07:13.719 --> 01:07:17.840
couldn't tell you why. And it's something I've never experienced before.

1378
01:07:17.960 --> 01:07:20.760
But the crazy thing about it is, like I said

1379
01:07:20.840 --> 01:07:24.840
that when the second initial when the secondary taps happened,

1380
01:07:24.840 --> 01:07:27.480
after that initial tap, I knew it was something freaky

1381
01:07:27.480 --> 01:07:27.840
going on.

1382
01:07:27.920 --> 01:07:30.000
Man. I just knew it was because.

1383
01:07:30.320 --> 01:07:35.000
There's no way someone is out here tapping on someone's

1384
01:07:35.519 --> 01:07:36.719
cabin and four in the morning.

1385
01:07:36.880 --> 01:07:39.960
It just don't It didn't make sense, man, So I did.

1386
01:07:40.119 --> 01:07:43.039
I always carry when I'm traveling, and I was sleeping

1387
01:07:43.079 --> 01:07:45.920
with an ar pistol, and then I had my glock pistol.

1388
01:07:46.079 --> 01:07:48.280
There was never any time in my mind I was

1389
01:07:48.320 --> 01:07:51.400
thinking about discharging the weapon. But my thing is, man,

1390
01:07:51.440 --> 01:07:54.000
I just when I grabbed it closer to me, like sleeping,

1391
01:07:54.280 --> 01:07:55.960
it just gave me a sense of comfort, you know

1392
01:07:56.000 --> 01:07:58.920
what I'm saying, because in my head, I'm trying to

1393
01:07:58.960 --> 01:08:03.039
gather how can any even if someone stood on that unit,

1394
01:08:03.719 --> 01:08:06.760
you would still need a ladder to reach right above

1395
01:08:07.480 --> 01:08:09.159
where my head is in his bed.

1396
01:08:09.679 --> 01:08:12.039
Man. After all of that or whatever, man, I just

1397
01:08:12.440 --> 01:08:14.599
I couldn't sleep. So we got up and.

1398
01:08:14.639 --> 01:08:17.039
I go over and o my girl's brother and his

1399
01:08:17.039 --> 01:08:20.159
girlfriend their gamer, so they were up gaming. So I

1400
01:08:20.199 --> 01:08:22.239
go out and I'm like, hey, man, have y'all been

1401
01:08:22.279 --> 01:08:24.920
hearing something tap? And his girlfriend was like, when I

1402
01:08:25.000 --> 01:08:27.359
was in the bathroom earlier. And this was way after

1403
01:08:27.399 --> 01:08:30.439
my fiancee, She's like, when I was in the bathroom early,

1404
01:08:30.560 --> 01:08:33.239
I heard something tapping. What we did was we turned

1405
01:08:33.279 --> 01:08:36.000
off all the lights and we started looking out of

1406
01:08:36.039 --> 01:08:39.000
their window over there towards the empty cabin, but we

1407
01:08:39.039 --> 01:08:42.800
couldn't see anything. And I'm like, man, it's just super freaky, man,

1408
01:08:42.840 --> 01:08:45.800
what happened. But it was just when you experienced something

1409
01:08:45.880 --> 01:08:49.239
that you never experienced before, you don't know how to

1410
01:08:49.239 --> 01:08:51.720
grab your mind, grasp your mind around the concept of

1411
01:08:51.760 --> 01:08:55.439
what's really going on. And then so pretty much after that, man,

1412
01:08:55.479 --> 01:08:58.520
I think we initially went to sleep, but my fiance's brother, no,

1413
01:08:58.960 --> 01:09:01.720
his girlfriend, they said that they really didn't go to

1414
01:09:01.760 --> 01:09:05.159
sleep that night because they just felt uncomfortable in it.

1415
01:09:05.239 --> 01:09:07.920
Like I said, she was the one before she got there. Yeah,

1416
01:09:08.079 --> 01:09:11.359
it's just bears and you're not used to it or whatever.

1417
01:09:11.439 --> 01:09:14.199
But to this day, man, she'll tell you, I know

1418
01:09:14.239 --> 01:09:16.880
what was out there, man, And it wasn't no dangone bears.

1419
01:09:16.880 --> 01:09:17.039
Man.

1420
01:09:17.079 --> 01:09:19.840
That was pretty much the night man, trying to just

1421
01:09:19.920 --> 01:09:22.439
jog my memory and make sure there's not anything that

1422
01:09:22.479 --> 01:09:24.880
I missed. But just in a nutshell, man, that's pretty

1423
01:09:24.920 --> 01:09:27.680
much what happened at first night, and just the experience

1424
01:09:27.800 --> 01:09:29.319
and what I felt in general.

1425
01:09:29.359 --> 01:09:30.359
Man, it was crazy.

1426
01:09:30.359 --> 01:09:33.479
Oh yeah, Jeremiah, this is something immediate also that I

1427
01:09:33.479 --> 01:09:35.319
need to tell you. While we were out there on

1428
01:09:35.359 --> 01:09:39.000
the deck, we had neighbors that were adjacent to.

1429
01:09:39.039 --> 01:09:43.319
The unfinished cabin. But so I want you to because

1430
01:09:43.319 --> 01:09:44.760
I'm trying to give you a perspective.

1431
01:09:44.800 --> 01:09:47.640
So if we're on our deck, if we're looking atmediate,

1432
01:09:47.760 --> 01:09:53.560
there's the unfinished cabin. But if you look at the

1433
01:09:53.600 --> 01:09:58.239
two o'clock away from that cabin, there was other people

1434
01:09:58.239 --> 01:10:01.079
in a cabin, but they were higher in elevation in us.

1435
01:10:01.479 --> 01:10:03.920
So what was crazy is the whole time when we

1436
01:10:03.920 --> 01:10:07.000
were sitting out there on the deck recording those sounds

1437
01:10:07.000 --> 01:10:10.760
and stuff like that, whatever was messing with us was

1438
01:10:10.960 --> 01:10:12.039
had to be over.

1439
01:10:11.840 --> 01:10:13.000
There messing with those people.

1440
01:10:13.039 --> 01:10:15.399
Because at the time, it was between two and three

1441
01:10:15.439 --> 01:10:17.479
in the morning while we were out there on the deck,

1442
01:10:17.840 --> 01:10:21.760
and those people were on their deck with flash lights

1443
01:10:21.880 --> 01:10:24.920
flashing it down into the valley like they were looking

1444
01:10:24.960 --> 01:10:27.960
for something, and we're like, what could these people be

1445
01:10:28.079 --> 01:10:30.119
looking for down in that valley.

1446
01:10:30.119 --> 01:10:32.760
At two three in the morning. It was so crazy,

1447
01:10:32.760 --> 01:10:35.760
and that just verified what was happening to us. We

1448
01:10:36.239 --> 01:10:38.279
just chalked it up to whatever it.

1449
01:10:38.119 --> 01:10:41.680
Is, it's over there messing with those people, because come on, man,

1450
01:10:41.800 --> 01:10:43.279
what could they be in looking for at two to

1451
01:10:43.319 --> 01:10:45.279
three in the morning down in the valley? It was

1452
01:10:45.439 --> 01:10:47.560
I think it was like two dudes and maybe a

1453
01:10:47.600 --> 01:10:50.439
woman because you could see them. If we had binoculars,

1454
01:10:50.560 --> 01:10:53.680
we probably could look in their cabin. But we're looking

1455
01:10:53.800 --> 01:10:56.279
up in elevation at them on the deck and they're

1456
01:10:56.359 --> 01:10:59.760
just they have flashlights and phones shining down into the

1457
01:10:59.920 --> 01:11:03.359
l and we're like, man, it just blew our mind.

1458
01:11:03.359 --> 01:11:06.880
Man, it was so crazy. Man, it was so crazy.

1459
01:11:06.920 --> 01:11:11.560
Jeremiah Ton, that is that's an incredible account for sure.

1460
01:11:11.720 --> 01:11:17.119
I don't know how you guys didn't just leave the premises.

1461
01:11:17.600 --> 01:11:20.000
I paid that money, Jeremi. I didn't want to get.

1462
01:11:22.000 --> 01:11:24.439
I love it. I have a few I'm working through

1463
01:11:24.479 --> 01:11:27.079
a few questions. If I can ask you some questions

1464
01:11:27.399 --> 01:11:30.239
about the night go ahead, go ahead, the tapping that

1465
01:11:30.359 --> 01:11:35.159
you guys heard, so just playing like devil's advocate for

1466
01:11:35.199 --> 01:11:38.279
a bit. So was it a different than like a

1467
01:11:38.359 --> 01:11:41.840
noise you would hear, like a woodpecker or can you

1468
01:11:42.479 --> 01:11:44.159
describe what it sounded like?

1469
01:11:44.680 --> 01:11:46.159
Perfect? Perfect, Yeah, no problem.

1470
01:11:46.239 --> 01:11:49.119
I didn't hear the taps, the taps on the house

1471
01:11:49.319 --> 01:11:51.960
or it was never the window, it was like taps

1472
01:11:52.000 --> 01:11:54.760
on the cabin itself. I didn't hear the taps that

1473
01:11:54.920 --> 01:11:58.800
my fiance's brother in law girlfriend heard, And I also

1474
01:11:58.840 --> 01:12:01.439
didn't hear the taps that my fiance heard. But she's

1475
01:12:01.600 --> 01:12:03.680
right here with me, and she could how what did

1476
01:12:03.720 --> 01:12:04.720
those taps sound like?

1477
01:12:05.079 --> 01:12:07.960
It was really hard, like just.

1478
01:12:07.399 --> 01:12:10.119
Just someone like, how many taps? Was it? It was

1479
01:12:10.199 --> 01:12:11.199
just one one tap.

1480
01:12:11.399 --> 01:12:14.239
It's just like a tap, Okay, okay, so she said

1481
01:12:14.279 --> 01:12:16.079
it was just one tap that she heard. Now me,

1482
01:12:16.600 --> 01:12:20.279
the taps that I heard, it was two of the

1483
01:12:20.439 --> 01:12:24.640
same cadences. And the thing is if the first tap

1484
01:12:24.800 --> 01:12:27.760
was tap tap tap tap tap, and then the second

1485
01:12:27.760 --> 01:12:30.039
tap was like tap tap tap tap or something like that,

1486
01:12:30.720 --> 01:12:33.119
I still wouldn't know how to explain it. But it

1487
01:12:33.279 --> 01:12:37.720
was so freaky because Jeremiah, when the taps happened, it

1488
01:12:37.760 --> 01:12:42.720
was a cadence tap tap tap tap tap, And what

1489
01:12:42.840 --> 01:12:46.079
I've chalked it up to be was something was trying

1490
01:12:46.079 --> 01:12:50.239
to get my attention in general, because Jeremiah, the taps

1491
01:12:50.279 --> 01:12:52.079
were right above my head.

1492
01:12:52.560 --> 01:12:53.960
I heard the taps.

1493
01:12:53.640 --> 01:12:59.399
Through this pure wooden cabin and through this pure wooden headboard.

1494
01:12:59.760 --> 01:13:03.279
The taps were right above my head, like it knew

1495
01:13:03.760 --> 01:13:06.960
where I was laying in the bed so it could tap.

1496
01:13:07.079 --> 01:13:09.159
And like I said, the first taps were.

1497
01:13:09.039 --> 01:13:14.199
Like hold on, it was like that, could you hear that, Jeremiah,

1498
01:13:14.279 --> 01:13:14.880
a little bit?

1499
01:13:15.840 --> 01:13:17.600
Okay, I'm sorry, I gonna bang on the wall. But

1500
01:13:17.640 --> 01:13:19.720
it was tap tap tap tap tap.

1501
01:13:20.199 --> 01:13:22.640
It was the first one, like I said, So that

1502
01:13:22.680 --> 01:13:27.239
initially woke me up, and I asked my feeling and say, hey,

1503
01:13:27.239 --> 01:13:27.800
did you hear that?

1504
01:13:27.840 --> 01:13:29.439
She was like here what I'm like, Okay, don't worry

1505
01:13:29.479 --> 01:13:30.960
about it. Like I said, I'm.

1506
01:13:30.840 --> 01:13:34.079
Thinking, okay, it could be the heat or whatever. I

1507
01:13:34.119 --> 01:13:38.119
just blew it off when I those back off. Man three,

1508
01:13:38.319 --> 01:13:40.680
It couldn't have been three to five minutes later I

1509
01:13:40.760 --> 01:13:45.680
hear the same exact Haydence, the same exact tap in

1510
01:13:45.760 --> 01:13:48.920
the same spot that I heard it right above my head. Man,

1511
01:13:49.399 --> 01:13:52.520
No way, I never heard a woodpecker go tap tap

1512
01:13:52.560 --> 01:13:53.119
tap tip tap.

1513
01:13:53.119 --> 01:13:57.199
I mean, it's it's always that, you know what I'm saying.

1514
01:13:57.279 --> 01:14:00.079
And I don't know if woodpeckers are even out that's

1515
01:14:00.119 --> 01:14:03.560
at that Sorry I'm telling Toweist. I don't even know

1516
01:14:03.640 --> 01:14:07.880
if woodpeckers are out in the area in those times.

1517
01:14:07.920 --> 01:14:10.800
Like I said, this was the first of November in

1518
01:14:10.920 --> 01:14:12.479
celebration for her birthday.

1519
01:14:12.119 --> 01:14:15.000
Which is November the seventh. Man, it's no way possibly

1520
01:14:15.000 --> 01:14:16.000
it could have been a woodpecker.

1521
01:14:16.000 --> 01:14:18.000
And if it was a woodpecker, it had to be

1522
01:14:18.079 --> 01:14:22.640
super intelligent for it to do the same cadence twice.

1523
01:14:22.800 --> 01:14:23.960
It just had to be. Man.

1524
01:14:24.399 --> 01:14:29.000
The other thing that that really is interesting is how

1525
01:14:29.079 --> 01:14:33.479
you mentioned that the neighbors in that area were looking

1526
01:14:33.560 --> 01:14:35.800
down in the valley with their flashlights.

1527
01:14:36.279 --> 01:14:40.880
That's at three in the morning. Wow, Why man at

1528
01:14:40.920 --> 01:14:42.359
three in the morning, Jeremiah.

1529
01:14:42.439 --> 01:14:46.000
And like I said, I'm pretty sure the whole reason

1530
01:14:46.039 --> 01:14:49.800
that we even had this encounter, there's a okay, just

1531
01:14:49.840 --> 01:14:52.199
a little half a circle disco ball, it's like a

1532
01:14:52.239 --> 01:14:56.000
little bluetooth and the lights shining all over the cabin

1533
01:14:56.079 --> 01:14:59.119
and also out of that back window it broadcast.

1534
01:14:59.279 --> 01:15:01.199
It had to broadc that's pretty high in the air.

1535
01:15:01.560 --> 01:15:04.079
And I'm pretty sure a lot of people saw those lights, because,

1536
01:15:04.119 --> 01:15:07.479
like I said, it took them ten minutes, seven to

1537
01:15:07.560 --> 01:15:10.359
ten minutes after they got off the main strip to

1538
01:15:10.479 --> 01:15:12.680
come up to where we were. They were telling us

1539
01:15:12.680 --> 01:15:15.560
that they saw the lights before they even got on

1540
01:15:15.640 --> 01:15:17.359
the road to actually come up there.

1541
01:15:17.960 --> 01:15:21.239
Big for society, who will be right back after these messages.

1542
01:15:36.760 --> 01:15:39.119
So I'm knowing that these lights had to be going,

1543
01:15:39.359 --> 01:15:42.159
they had to be seen for at least a mile, Jeremiah.

1544
01:15:42.199 --> 01:15:44.960
And we're up in elevation, and man, when I get.

1545
01:15:44.840 --> 01:15:47.319
A chance, and maybe after this call, after we're off

1546
01:15:47.359 --> 01:15:50.920
the call, I'll definitely send you the pictures. We have

1547
01:15:51.000 --> 01:15:53.479
the video of that bear also, right, I'll send you

1548
01:15:53.479 --> 01:15:56.199
some just pictures and videos of the whole thing. But

1549
01:15:56.319 --> 01:15:59.840
what is really crazy, Jeremiah, I can't remember exactly what

1550
01:16:00.079 --> 01:16:01.279
time it was when.

1551
01:16:01.159 --> 01:16:03.439
I walked out there and I shot that little with

1552
01:16:03.640 --> 01:16:06.640
eight second video. Was that before or after your brother

1553
01:16:06.760 --> 01:16:07.199
then came?

1554
01:16:07.760 --> 01:16:10.279
It was before, yeah, so, Jeremiah, at one point of

1555
01:16:10.359 --> 01:16:13.000
time before they came or whatever. I think this was

1556
01:16:13.039 --> 01:16:15.760
actually right after we got back from the Mexican restaurant.

1557
01:16:16.000 --> 01:16:18.279
I go outside and I'm just bs and I'm in

1558
01:16:18.359 --> 01:16:19.439
the woods. I'm happy.

1559
01:16:19.680 --> 01:16:21.520
So I just go out there and I'm just I

1560
01:16:21.560 --> 01:16:23.760
just shoot a quick video of the It's not I

1561
01:16:23.800 --> 01:16:25.960
wouldn't call it a tree line, but it's just a

1562
01:16:26.079 --> 01:16:28.920
row of trees. Next, let me see if I'm walking,

1563
01:16:28.960 --> 01:16:30.840
if I'm on the front deck, it was to the left,

1564
01:16:31.119 --> 01:16:33.920
so it was on the left, so it was over there,

1565
01:16:33.960 --> 01:16:37.800
close to what my fiance's brother and his girlfriend's room was.

1566
01:16:37.840 --> 01:16:40.479
There was a row of trees right there or whatever.

1567
01:16:40.520 --> 01:16:42.039
But I just shot a quick video.

1568
01:16:42.359 --> 01:16:45.000
And I didn't even notice anything in that video when

1569
01:16:45.039 --> 01:16:47.119
I first shot it. But due to all of the

1570
01:16:47.159 --> 01:16:49.960
strange things that we encountered later on that night and

1571
01:16:50.000 --> 01:16:52.319
stuff like that, maybe a week or so later.

1572
01:16:52.239 --> 01:16:54.199
Something was just telling me to go through the video.

1573
01:16:54.359 --> 01:16:57.319
So you have an iPhone, Right when you shoot a

1574
01:16:57.359 --> 01:16:59.600
video on the iPhone, you can go to the video.

1575
01:16:59.800 --> 01:17:01.760
At the bottom of the video. You have a little

1576
01:17:01.800 --> 01:17:03.039
script part down there.

1577
01:17:03.199 --> 01:17:05.600
You can take your finger and scrub it and it'll

1578
01:17:05.760 --> 01:17:10.039
slowly pin through the video. Man, Jeremiah, these pictures that

1579
01:17:10.079 --> 01:17:12.279
I'm going to see you, I've only ever sent these

1580
01:17:12.319 --> 01:17:15.720
pictures to one guy, and the reason being is because

1581
01:17:15.800 --> 01:17:18.560
this guy he has a real unique name.

1582
01:17:18.640 --> 01:17:19.920
If I needed to find him.

1583
01:17:20.000 --> 01:17:22.840
I probably could again, but this was the only guy

1584
01:17:22.880 --> 01:17:26.079
that I've ever sent these pictures to besides my fiance

1585
01:17:26.239 --> 01:17:27.720
and her brother and his girlfriend.

1586
01:17:28.000 --> 01:17:30.479
But the guy he reached out. I reached out to him,

1587
01:17:30.479 --> 01:17:31.640
and he finally reached out to me.

1588
01:17:31.960 --> 01:17:33.760
I sent him the pictures and just asked him what

1589
01:17:33.800 --> 01:17:36.279
he thought, and he was like, man, you definitely have

1590
01:17:36.439 --> 01:17:39.600
something here. And I just told him, I don't mind

1591
01:17:39.640 --> 01:17:42.239
you sharing these pictures with any just give me feedback.

1592
01:17:42.279 --> 01:17:45.720
He never gave me feedback on anything, and hopefully he's

1593
01:17:45.760 --> 01:17:47.960
not using my pictures just for anything.

1594
01:17:48.039 --> 01:17:48.760
It is what it is.

1595
01:17:48.800 --> 01:17:52.520
I don't care the whole My whole thing was I

1596
01:17:52.640 --> 01:17:55.159
needed to reach out to someone at that time, man,

1597
01:17:55.199 --> 01:17:58.399
because like I said, I've been following this whole topic

1598
01:17:58.760 --> 01:18:01.920
ever since about graduating in twenty thirteen. I was working

1599
01:18:01.960 --> 01:18:05.239
at a private speech school in twenty fourteen. So from

1600
01:18:05.279 --> 01:18:09.119
about twenty fourteen all the way up until now.

1601
01:18:09.159 --> 01:18:10.279
I was very aware.

1602
01:18:10.560 --> 01:18:13.680
I followed Jeff mel Drum, Scott Carpenter, that's the guy

1603
01:18:13.720 --> 01:18:16.279
I was mentioning, who's actually from East Tennessee. Also, I

1604
01:18:16.359 --> 01:18:19.239
follow all these people, and, like I said, my first

1605
01:18:19.279 --> 01:18:21.560
perspective when I got into it back in twenty fourteen,

1606
01:18:21.640 --> 01:18:24.279
twenty fifteen, it was more of the lines of Okay,

1607
01:18:24.439 --> 01:18:27.520
it's an unknown ape of primate that hasn't been discovered.

1608
01:18:27.840 --> 01:18:31.039
But after what I've experienced, and even before all of

1609
01:18:31.079 --> 01:18:33.800
this information, like I said, I drive trucks, man, and

1610
01:18:33.920 --> 01:18:36.920
I see the vast amount of land that is out here,

1611
01:18:37.199 --> 01:18:40.399
and just in one or two states, it's mind blowing

1612
01:18:40.920 --> 01:18:45.720
for the masses not to believe that something could exist

1613
01:18:45.880 --> 01:18:49.640
that is just as much or more intelligent and not

1614
01:18:49.800 --> 01:18:52.880
technically advanced, but in the sense of just being out

1615
01:18:52.880 --> 01:18:53.800
in the wilderness.

1616
01:18:54.039 --> 01:18:55.439
It's right here in our faces.

1617
01:18:55.439 --> 01:18:55.600
Man.

1618
01:18:55.640 --> 01:18:57.800
You just have to get out here, and you have

1619
01:18:57.840 --> 01:18:59.199
to get out here and experience things.

1620
01:18:59.239 --> 01:19:03.359
But Jeremiah, Man, I promise you, I've never experienced anything

1621
01:19:03.479 --> 01:19:05.119
like this ever in my life. Man.

1622
01:19:05.520 --> 01:19:06.479
It was amazing and.

1623
01:19:06.560 --> 01:19:08.640
All, man, But it just pushed me to want to

1624
01:19:09.039 --> 01:19:11.159
look more into the topic and do more research.

1625
01:19:11.239 --> 01:19:13.600
But I do follow and read a lot of.

1626
01:19:13.560 --> 01:19:16.439
Credible people's work and stuff like that, man, And I

1627
01:19:16.479 --> 01:19:18.640
know for a fact what I experienced, Like I said,

1628
01:19:18.680 --> 01:19:21.960
I've never seen one personally in real life, only off

1629
01:19:21.960 --> 01:19:25.000
of that picture that I saw. But in real life myself,

1630
01:19:25.079 --> 01:19:28.479
I didn't see it. My fiancees brother. He said he

1631
01:19:28.520 --> 01:19:32.079
saw half of a face and some shoulders, and this

1632
01:19:32.319 --> 01:19:33.239
was twelve to.

1633
01:19:33.279 --> 01:19:34.640
Fifteen feet off of the ground.

1634
01:19:34.880 --> 01:19:37.159
So I'm just projecting that if the bottom of the

1635
01:19:37.239 --> 01:19:40.600
deck is ten to twelve feet, then the top part

1636
01:19:40.640 --> 01:19:42.680
of the deck where we were sitting the phone and

1637
01:19:42.720 --> 01:19:45.840
things like that, it had to be fourteen to fifteen feet.

1638
01:19:45.880 --> 01:19:49.560
So for him to be looking straight ahead or downward

1639
01:19:49.600 --> 01:19:52.680
in the angle and see something rising up shoulders and stuff,

1640
01:19:52.720 --> 01:19:55.439
I'm like, man, bears don't do that. And if a

1641
01:19:55.439 --> 01:19:58.079
bear stands up, it's real sloppy. He said, it was

1642
01:19:58.239 --> 01:19:59.720
rising real slow.

1643
01:20:00.039 --> 01:20:00.319
He said.

1644
01:20:00.359 --> 01:20:02.520
The crazy thing about it is, he said, the crazy

1645
01:20:02.600 --> 01:20:05.560
thing about it is it wasn't even fully erect.

1646
01:20:05.800 --> 01:20:09.560
It was just like gifting itself full. So it's crazy.

1647
01:20:09.600 --> 01:20:09.760
Man.

1648
01:20:09.800 --> 01:20:10.399
It was crazy.

1649
01:20:10.439 --> 01:20:10.560
Man.

1650
01:20:10.600 --> 01:20:11.680
I tell you.

1651
01:20:11.680 --> 01:20:15.479
You mentioned that your brother in law's girlfriend, I believe

1652
01:20:15.640 --> 01:20:20.560
had some audio recordings that were taking. Yeah, that would

1653
01:20:20.600 --> 01:20:22.560
be interesting. I don't know if it's possible to hear

1654
01:20:22.800 --> 01:20:25.359
those at all, but I get those are pretty interesting.

1655
01:20:26.039 --> 01:20:26.319
Yeah.

1656
01:20:26.439 --> 01:20:29.239
I think it was maybe one or two recordings, if

1657
01:20:29.239 --> 01:20:30.439
I don't want to say the wrong thing, it was

1658
01:20:30.479 --> 01:20:32.159
one or two. I know for sure it was one

1659
01:20:32.439 --> 01:20:35.720
but on that one recording when we heard that branch

1660
01:20:35.840 --> 01:20:38.319
or log or whatever it was whatever, when it stepped

1661
01:20:38.359 --> 01:20:41.319
on it and everything got quiet on that recording. You

1662
01:20:41.359 --> 01:20:43.920
know how on audio recording you can see spikes to

1663
01:20:43.960 --> 01:20:48.039
wear sound it's playing sound. There's a real small spike.

1664
01:20:48.279 --> 01:20:52.720
You can faintly hear something was yelling. It was one

1665
01:20:52.800 --> 01:20:55.800
or two. Something was yelling, but it wasn't right there

1666
01:20:56.119 --> 01:20:58.920
where all where we were hearing all this motion around us.

1667
01:20:59.119 --> 01:21:01.479
This was like our way, Like you could faintly hear

1668
01:21:01.520 --> 01:21:04.720
something like and I'm like, who would be out here

1669
01:21:04.760 --> 01:21:07.960
at two three in the morning yelling like that? It's

1670
01:21:08.199 --> 01:21:13.720
oh in Jeremiah. The next morning this was crazy, Jeremiah.

1671
01:21:14.119 --> 01:21:19.000
We heard someone It sounded like they were having a gunfight.

1672
01:21:19.119 --> 01:21:22.680
And then also the next morning when we go out,

1673
01:21:22.840 --> 01:21:27.119
we see huge turkeys just walking up the driveway. And

1674
01:21:27.159 --> 01:21:30.720
then maybe what time, Okay, the next morning we went

1675
01:21:30.760 --> 01:21:34.439
outside that bear. This had to be after we saw

1676
01:21:34.479 --> 01:21:36.600
the bear and it went about his business. So when

1677
01:21:36.600 --> 01:21:39.319
we left the Mexican restaurant earlier that day around I'm

1678
01:21:39.319 --> 01:21:42.000
gonna say around nine ten o'clock, whatever I'm gonna say

1679
01:21:42.079 --> 01:21:43.319
more nine o'clock.

1680
01:21:43.159 --> 01:21:44.159
Had to be about nine.

1681
01:21:44.479 --> 01:21:46.760
We had food in the car, but we took it out,

1682
01:21:46.960 --> 01:21:48.720
so the smell of the food was in the car.

1683
01:21:49.159 --> 01:21:52.439
We saw prints on the window in the car door,

1684
01:21:52.840 --> 01:21:55.000
but we just said it had to be the bear

1685
01:21:55.199 --> 01:21:57.319
that we saw. We just chopped it up to the bear.

1686
01:21:57.840 --> 01:22:01.520
But that whole night we hearing something over there.

1687
01:22:01.319 --> 01:22:03.399
By the car. So the car is parked. The car.

1688
01:22:03.720 --> 01:22:07.039
Okay, if you're pulling to this cabin, you're coming up

1689
01:22:07.159 --> 01:22:09.479
like a mountainous road. It's not like the road where

1690
01:22:09.520 --> 01:22:11.279
you're almost about to run people off the road. But

1691
01:22:11.319 --> 01:22:13.600
it is a small road only two cars can fit.

1692
01:22:14.079 --> 01:22:17.199
But my point is when you drive up that driveway

1693
01:22:17.239 --> 01:22:20.199
to the driveways to the left, when you pull directly

1694
01:22:20.279 --> 01:22:23.800
beside the cabin to park, there's the ac unit. You

1695
01:22:23.840 --> 01:22:26.880
look up, there's a big circle window about eighteen feet

1696
01:22:26.920 --> 01:22:30.279
off the ground. This is above the bed area where

1697
01:22:30.319 --> 01:22:33.119
we were sleeping in our room. And then over there

1698
01:22:33.119 --> 01:22:35.760
in that area we just kept hearing something. So let's

1699
01:22:35.800 --> 01:22:37.079
just say I get out of the car and I'm

1700
01:22:37.079 --> 01:22:39.039
standing right there on side of the cabin. If I

1701
01:22:39.159 --> 01:22:41.760
walk straight back, we have the bends right there, the

1702
01:22:41.800 --> 01:22:45.520
bareproof bends, and you can literally walk under the back

1703
01:22:45.600 --> 01:22:48.600
deck right when you walk past there. Now, there were

1704
01:22:48.680 --> 01:22:51.640
two doors, like some utility doors right there by that

1705
01:22:51.760 --> 01:22:55.640
ac unit, but it was locked from the outside. Right

1706
01:22:56.000 --> 01:22:58.319
that possibly that thought went through my head. I know

1707
01:22:58.680 --> 01:23:02.760
nobody's out here under here in this utility area, but

1708
01:23:03.199 --> 01:23:05.520
you could tell that the lock hadn't been funded with

1709
01:23:05.680 --> 01:23:09.439
or anything, because I'm pretty sure the oh, I'm skipping

1710
01:23:09.439 --> 01:23:11.640
around because things are popping up in my head. There

1711
01:23:11.720 --> 01:23:15.600
was also a door inside of my fiance brother's room.

1712
01:23:15.800 --> 01:23:18.560
It was locked, and I don't think nothing was too

1713
01:23:18.600 --> 01:23:21.119
creepy about that, but it was just a locked door

1714
01:23:21.199 --> 01:23:23.399
in the room, and I'm guessing that it went to

1715
01:23:23.479 --> 01:23:26.119
maybe like a hot water heater or something.

1716
01:23:25.840 --> 01:23:27.960
Like that that they didn't want someone to have access to.

1717
01:23:28.399 --> 01:23:29.239
That was crazy.

1718
01:23:29.520 --> 01:23:34.239
But those double doors, it's not anything that I think

1719
01:23:34.279 --> 01:23:35.560
they had to do with anything.

1720
01:23:35.640 --> 01:23:39.000
I'm sure of that. But my point is, man, if

1721
01:23:39.079 --> 01:23:39.720
you were.

1722
01:23:39.560 --> 01:23:42.359
To walk from under that deck, let's just say you

1723
01:23:42.560 --> 01:23:47.079
let's just say twelve feet after that twelve maybe fifteen feet,

1724
01:23:47.279 --> 01:23:48.000
you're going.

1725
01:23:47.800 --> 01:23:49.439
To slide down that valley. Man.

1726
01:23:49.600 --> 01:23:53.239
That's how much of a steep decline it was coming

1727
01:23:53.239 --> 01:23:55.720
from under the back of the deck area. And whatever

1728
01:23:55.880 --> 01:23:58.319
that was initially when I first heard that when I

1729
01:23:58.359 --> 01:24:00.520
went I stepped out there. When I stepped one foot

1730
01:24:00.560 --> 01:24:04.640
out there to grab that wine bottle, Man, something rain

1731
01:24:05.000 --> 01:24:08.239
and it stopped right in the area, right at that

1732
01:24:08.319 --> 01:24:10.960
point where you're about to go down. And I'm like, man,

1733
01:24:11.000 --> 01:24:14.399
this is this doesn't it doesn't make any logical sense.

1734
01:24:14.640 --> 01:24:17.760
Who would be out here messing with people in a cabin.

1735
01:24:17.800 --> 01:24:19.600
It's just crazy, man, John.

1736
01:24:19.800 --> 01:24:23.359
The next morning, did you happen to before you left,

1737
01:24:23.359 --> 01:24:25.760
did you happen to look around the outside of the

1738
01:24:25.800 --> 01:24:29.000
cabin to see maybe if you found any tracks on

1739
01:24:29.039 --> 01:24:33.119
the ground around where the tapping was happening, or anything

1740
01:24:33.159 --> 01:24:34.960
to do with the wall on the outside.

1741
01:24:35.279 --> 01:24:36.119
See, this is the thing.

1742
01:24:36.199 --> 01:24:38.359
I did check out that wall area, and it made

1743
01:24:38.359 --> 01:24:42.720
me even more uncomfortable because the area right there, it's

1744
01:24:42.760 --> 01:24:46.239
basically a driveway, so there's no way any footprints could.

1745
01:24:46.079 --> 01:24:46.760
Have been seen.

1746
01:24:47.279 --> 01:24:49.279
And even back when you walk back there under that

1747
01:24:49.399 --> 01:24:51.680
deck area where we were hearing all of this commotion,

1748
01:24:52.279 --> 01:24:56.680
it's so much leaf foliage because of the location we're at.

1749
01:24:57.000 --> 01:24:59.319
You know what I'm saying, This was like the beginning

1750
01:24:59.319 --> 01:25:00.359
of fall. This was fall.

1751
01:25:00.520 --> 01:25:04.319
You got orange leaves, red leaves, brown leaves, green leaves man.

1752
01:25:04.439 --> 01:25:07.319
There wouldn't have been a way. It wasn't the type

1753
01:25:07.319 --> 01:25:10.439
of soil or anything where there's like mud or it's

1754
01:25:10.640 --> 01:25:14.560
just hard packed, just a wooded area with foliage. And

1755
01:25:15.000 --> 01:25:17.600
that little area away from under the deck area was

1756
01:25:17.720 --> 01:25:20.840
just like it wasn't bushes, it wasn't thick like that.

1757
01:25:21.119 --> 01:25:25.680
It was almost like that tall grass, that tall brown,

1758
01:25:25.800 --> 01:25:28.119
thin grass. It was like just full of that. And

1759
01:25:28.159 --> 01:25:31.640
like I said, I have pictures I didn't take. I

1760
01:25:31.720 --> 01:25:33.520
have videos and pictures. I'm gonna go through them and

1761
01:25:33.560 --> 01:25:36.880
see you everything that's significant pertaining to this. But we

1762
01:25:37.079 --> 01:25:39.960
the only thing that we did see what we suggested

1763
01:25:40.000 --> 01:25:41.399
it to be was maybe the.

1764
01:25:41.359 --> 01:25:43.239
Smell from that food was still in the car.

1765
01:25:43.439 --> 01:25:47.000
And the bear, I guess the bear put I'm sure

1766
01:25:47.119 --> 01:25:48.880
whatever the bear, I think it was a bear.

1767
01:25:48.960 --> 01:25:49.840
I'm gonna say it was a bear.

1768
01:25:50.199 --> 01:25:52.960
It put his hand on the window like it was

1769
01:25:53.000 --> 01:25:55.399
trying to press up against the window. But we saw

1770
01:25:55.800 --> 01:25:59.199
a muddy print on the window and a muddy print

1771
01:25:59.279 --> 01:26:02.319
on the car, on the car door, and not like.

1772
01:26:02.319 --> 01:26:03.079
It was pulling it.

1773
01:26:03.079 --> 01:26:05.920
It was just like something stood up against the car basically,

1774
01:26:06.079 --> 01:26:08.600
And they stood out so much because before we went.

1775
01:26:08.479 --> 01:26:09.199
To the cabins.

1776
01:26:09.239 --> 01:26:11.840
I had just washed her car, so a muddy frint

1777
01:26:11.880 --> 01:26:13.520
on the car is just it sticks out like a

1778
01:26:13.560 --> 01:26:16.319
sore thumb. But I'm gonna just say that was the

1779
01:26:16.359 --> 01:26:20.239
bear because we did see that bear later again in

1780
01:26:20.319 --> 01:26:22.760
the night, like when we were out there, but when

1781
01:26:22.800 --> 01:26:25.239
we were hearing all of these this other commotion that

1782
01:26:25.319 --> 01:26:28.079
was around us, that bear was nowhere in sight. I

1783
01:26:28.079 --> 01:26:30.000
can guarantee it was nowhere in sight.

1784
01:26:30.560 --> 01:26:33.039
Yeah, I agree with you, don Some of it just

1785
01:26:33.079 --> 01:26:36.439
sounds like potentially a bear, but some of it definitely

1786
01:26:36.800 --> 01:26:39.960
I'm saying not a bear from that I'm hearing from

1787
01:26:40.000 --> 01:26:44.239
your story, man, it just feels like there's a lot

1788
01:26:44.359 --> 01:26:48.279
more that could man. Yeah, talk to the brother in law,

1789
01:26:48.439 --> 01:26:51.239
talk to the brother in law's girlfriend. I'd love to

1790
01:26:51.560 --> 01:26:56.079
hear there what because they saw some stuff that you did.

1791
01:26:56.319 --> 01:26:59.039
So I'm gonna ask you something.

1792
01:26:59.119 --> 01:27:02.359
Jeremiah, my brother in law is actually he's actually here.

1793
01:27:02.319 --> 01:27:05.199
If you want to ask him if it's if they're

1794
01:27:05.319 --> 01:27:07.000
up for it, Okay.

1795
01:27:06.760 --> 01:27:09.359
Yeah, he'll definitely be up for it. Now, I haven't

1796
01:27:09.479 --> 01:27:11.960
talked I haven't I'm going down here. I haven't talked

1797
01:27:12.000 --> 01:27:14.479
to him about any of this. So I want you

1798
01:27:14.520 --> 01:27:18.680
in the audience to generally here. I want you guys

1799
01:27:18.680 --> 01:27:21.119
to generally here, and I watch this. This is authentic.

1800
01:27:21.359 --> 01:27:24.560
Just watch this Jay, all right. So you remember when

1801
01:27:24.560 --> 01:27:26.560
we went to the cabin, right, I got a guy

1802
01:27:26.600 --> 01:27:28.560
on the phone. He got a podcast. It's called big

1803
01:27:28.600 --> 01:27:30.920
Foot Society. I reached out to him a while ago.

1804
01:27:31.439 --> 01:27:34.199
He wants to know what it was you saw when

1805
01:27:34.199 --> 01:27:36.399
we were on the back of the day. His name

1806
01:27:36.439 --> 01:27:39.119
is Jeremiah. Jeremiah. This is my brother in law, Jordan.

1807
01:27:39.960 --> 01:27:41.920
Big Oh, what's up man?

1808
01:27:42.199 --> 01:27:48.359
It was like a big fuzzy girl like very It

1809
01:27:48.399 --> 01:27:51.079
was like coming up our forest. It was like standing up.

1810
01:27:51.119 --> 01:27:54.319
But I went inside before even shoulder his face.

1811
01:27:54.199 --> 01:27:56.359
Or anything, and then let me see. Okay.

1812
01:27:56.399 --> 01:27:58.359
I told him about that part, and then he was

1813
01:27:58.399 --> 01:28:01.840
just okay, what about we were hearing all that movement around.

1814
01:28:01.920 --> 01:28:04.399
Yeah, it was like coming from different type of different

1815
01:28:04.479 --> 01:28:07.520
areas of the woods. And then one was stuck step

1816
01:28:07.640 --> 01:28:10.199
out from the bigger lags and it snaps.

1817
01:28:09.880 --> 01:28:12.720
Yeah, and and everything went quiet. Right, Everything just went

1818
01:28:12.800 --> 01:28:15.720
quiet after that. Now, initially before y'all made it, when

1819
01:28:15.760 --> 01:28:17.800
I called you, tell him about the call. Tell him

1820
01:28:17.840 --> 01:28:19.119
how panic I was telling about.

1821
01:28:19.359 --> 01:28:20.439
I thought you were just seeing a bear.

1822
01:28:20.640 --> 01:28:23.920
Then I saw that big and gray whatever it was

1823
01:28:24.560 --> 01:28:27.520
it was. And then your girlfriend does she still think

1824
01:28:27.520 --> 01:28:27.960
it's a bear?

1825
01:28:28.159 --> 01:28:31.039
No, she believes it what you were talking about.

1826
01:28:31.359 --> 01:28:33.760
And then because you and my sister, she her and

1827
01:28:33.840 --> 01:28:35.279
my sister. So yeah, that's why I said.

1828
01:28:35.319 --> 01:28:36.840
I told him I was the only one who didn't

1829
01:28:36.840 --> 01:28:39.000
see it, only that you were looking at the other side. Yeah,

1830
01:28:39.039 --> 01:28:41.560
I kept looking everywhere else. We were hearing those noises

1831
01:28:41.800 --> 01:28:43.520
and then the tap and that I told you.

1832
01:28:43.560 --> 01:28:45.920
All about it on the cavan door, water on the wall,

1833
01:28:46.039 --> 01:28:46.520
man like.

1834
01:28:47.199 --> 01:28:49.560
And I was just telling Jeremiah, I haven't even talked

1835
01:28:49.560 --> 01:28:50.760
to you about any of these.

1836
01:28:50.920 --> 01:28:52.479
You know what I'm saying. And then the picture that

1837
01:28:52.560 --> 01:28:54.479
I found in that little video that I sent. Right,

1838
01:28:54.520 --> 01:28:57.039
you can see the face. It's now Jeremiah, you and

1839
01:28:57.119 --> 01:28:58.760
the audience. Man, y'all just heard that.

1840
01:28:58.960 --> 01:28:59.159
Laugh.

1841
01:28:59.319 --> 01:29:02.399
This is not anything that was initiated. He's in here

1842
01:29:02.399 --> 01:29:03.560
playing the game, right man.

1843
01:29:03.800 --> 01:29:06.159
Like I said everything that, I just stay here and

1844
01:29:06.239 --> 01:29:08.479
told you guys, he just initialized it because he.

1845
01:29:08.520 --> 01:29:09.079
Was there, man.

1846
01:29:09.359 --> 01:29:11.920
And like I said, I didn't get to see anything.

1847
01:29:12.319 --> 01:29:15.720
They everybody else saw it. My fiance, him and his girlfriend.

1848
01:29:16.000 --> 01:29:18.520
They all saw something and they freaked out and ran

1849
01:29:18.600 --> 01:29:20.920
in the house. And I was frustrated because I'm like,

1850
01:29:21.199 --> 01:29:23.000
why would y'all do it? You know what I'm saying.

1851
01:29:23.039 --> 01:29:25.840
But I can understand. He was like, man, I wasn't

1852
01:29:25.880 --> 01:29:27.399
about to see I wasn't about to look and see

1853
01:29:27.439 --> 01:29:27.960
what it was.

1854
01:29:28.760 --> 01:29:30.920
So is Jordan's still there?

1855
01:29:31.319 --> 01:29:32.279
Oh, give me one second.

1856
01:29:32.279 --> 01:29:34.600
I'm sorry, give me one second.

1857
01:29:34.680 --> 01:29:38.800
Here. I think he got a question for you.

1858
01:29:38.840 --> 01:29:42.760
Bro, All right, jored right, here is Jordan when you

1859
01:29:42.960 --> 01:29:47.399
and your your girlfriend correct you, you said you actually

1860
01:29:47.439 --> 01:29:49.359
saw the face of whatever it was.

1861
01:29:50.000 --> 01:29:52.079
I saw the body. It was standing up. I seen

1862
01:29:52.119 --> 01:29:54.720
it on the verse of stand up, but I went't

1863
01:29:54.720 --> 01:29:56.840
in sided for I see the face. I got a

1864
01:29:56.840 --> 01:29:57.399
little scared.

1865
01:29:57.439 --> 01:29:58.199
I ain't.

1866
01:29:57.880 --> 01:30:02.720
Did you notice saying about the body that you could

1867
01:30:02.800 --> 01:30:04.439
see that you remember?

1868
01:30:04.720 --> 01:30:07.840
It was like it was very furry, big, like the

1869
01:30:08.000 --> 01:30:10.199
arms were huge, and it was way bigger than the bear.

1870
01:30:10.399 --> 01:30:11.800
And like I said, it was still standing.

1871
01:30:11.800 --> 01:30:14.239
We were on the second was like on the second story,

1872
01:30:14.279 --> 01:30:16.600
and it was still standing on this way to stand

1873
01:30:16.680 --> 01:30:17.640
up before I went inside.

1874
01:30:17.720 --> 01:30:19.760
It wouldn't even it wasn't even before standing up.

1875
01:30:20.279 --> 01:30:22.920
It was still like it was just on all fours

1876
01:30:22.920 --> 01:30:24.119
and you just getting on TUESDA.

1877
01:30:24.399 --> 01:30:27.319
When you say the arms were huge, what do you

1878
01:30:27.359 --> 01:30:30.760
mean by that, Like the size of a big branch,

1879
01:30:32.920 --> 01:30:37.319
The width of them like muscular, very muscular. Yeah, okay,

1880
01:30:38.279 --> 01:30:40.720
did you see anything about the length of the arms

1881
01:30:40.760 --> 01:30:41.039
at all?

1882
01:30:41.560 --> 01:30:44.840
Oh? Yeah, they were. They were like at least six

1883
01:30:44.880 --> 01:30:45.399
feet long.

1884
01:30:46.159 --> 01:30:49.199
And what I told him is where we were is

1885
01:30:49.239 --> 01:30:51.560
about fifteen feet off the Grand Hoarse. For you to

1886
01:30:51.640 --> 01:30:54.119
be able to see him, yeah, it would have to

1887
01:30:54.159 --> 01:30:56.840
have been at least eight to nine feet tall bro.

1888
01:30:57.199 --> 01:30:59.479
Or taller, because like I said, he was just still.

1889
01:30:59.680 --> 01:31:01.920
It wasn't he was standing up fully, he was just

1890
01:31:02.560 --> 01:31:05.279
getting rising from all fours.

1891
01:31:04.560 --> 01:31:05.159
To his feet.

1892
01:31:05.840 --> 01:31:10.680
One last question, Jordan, I appreciate you being ambush like this.

1893
01:31:10.880 --> 01:31:13.119
Do you remember anything about the head? Did you see

1894
01:31:13.119 --> 01:31:15.520
the head of the creature at all? Like that shape

1895
01:31:15.520 --> 01:31:16.000
of the head.

1896
01:31:16.239 --> 01:31:16.760
It was a big.

1897
01:31:16.880 --> 01:31:18.560
It was like at least like the size of two

1898
01:31:18.680 --> 01:31:20.119
basketballs or anything.

1899
01:31:20.720 --> 01:31:22.279
I saw that. I didn't see the face. I just

1900
01:31:22.279 --> 01:31:23.079
didn't see the face.

1901
01:31:23.720 --> 01:31:27.000
That's pretty awesome, Jordan, Thank you for sharing that.

1902
01:31:27.520 --> 01:31:29.000
Yes, sir, I appreciate that. Jack.

1903
01:31:29.520 --> 01:31:32.319
Yeah, Jereedmia Man, I'm not gonna say I wish I

1904
01:31:32.359 --> 01:31:36.439
would have seen it. How they reacted, but man, I'm

1905
01:31:36.520 --> 01:31:37.760
just still blown away about it.

1906
01:31:37.960 --> 01:31:42.760
Man, it's wild, don this is a wild one. I'll

1907
01:31:42.800 --> 01:31:45.840
be very interested once you're able to send some of

1908
01:31:46.119 --> 01:31:49.840
the different evidence over. I'm interested to see what it

1909
01:31:49.840 --> 01:31:50.199
looks like.

1910
01:31:50.319 --> 01:31:50.760
For sure.

1911
01:31:51.159 --> 01:31:55.079
A lot of listeners really like the area that you're

1912
01:31:55.119 --> 01:31:59.039
talking about, this whole gatlin Berg, Pigeon Forge, blah blah blah.

1913
01:31:59.279 --> 01:32:03.119
Are you able to to share specifics as to it?

1914
01:32:03.199 --> 01:32:05.239
Sounds like it's just a place you rented out. Are

1915
01:32:05.239 --> 01:32:07.039
you able to share specifics about it?

1916
01:32:07.640 --> 01:32:10.560
If I needed to get specific as in exactly how

1917
01:32:10.560 --> 01:32:13.000
to get to it, this specific cabin, I would love

1918
01:32:13.039 --> 01:32:14.720
to do that, but that would be something that I

1919
01:32:14.760 --> 01:32:17.560
would do offline because we have a lot of crazies

1920
01:32:17.600 --> 01:32:20.119
out here and I don't want this area being ambushed

1921
01:32:20.119 --> 01:32:23.560
at bar. But all of that information we can definitely

1922
01:32:23.640 --> 01:32:26.079
I can give it to you offline, but I don't

1923
01:32:26.079 --> 01:32:28.560
feel comfortable doing it on here. But what I can

1924
01:32:28.800 --> 01:32:32.760
tell the people is we were just in that literally

1925
01:32:32.840 --> 01:32:35.319
in that we passed right by the cabin. And I

1926
01:32:35.319 --> 01:32:38.239
don't mean like physically passed by it. But this strip,

1927
01:32:38.279 --> 01:32:41.560
there's a strip in Gatlin Bird. The cabin is located

1928
01:32:41.600 --> 01:32:44.239
in Severeville or Severville, however you want to pronounce.

1929
01:32:44.239 --> 01:32:46.880
It is spelled sei v E r V I lead.

1930
01:32:47.439 --> 01:32:50.520
And this is past Dollywood and all of that after

1931
01:32:50.720 --> 01:32:54.119
the main attraction. But so you have Severville or Sevilleville,

1932
01:32:54.520 --> 01:32:56.960
you have Pigeon Fordgers, you have Gatlin Bird.

1933
01:32:57.600 --> 01:32:59.039
And I forgot why we were going with this, Okay,

1934
01:32:59.079 --> 01:33:01.760
so we were just there. So we actually spent Christmas

1935
01:33:01.840 --> 01:33:05.279
Eve and Christmas in that's literally in that same area.

1936
01:33:05.359 --> 01:33:09.039
The only difference is the first cabin where we experience

1937
01:33:09.119 --> 01:33:09.479
all of this.

1938
01:33:10.439 --> 01:33:14.000
So if we're heading toward Gatlin Bird, you have to

1939
01:33:14.039 --> 01:33:17.640
turn down this middle and then go back the opposite

1940
01:33:17.680 --> 01:33:19.760
way like you were coming to turn right to go

1941
01:33:19.920 --> 01:33:21.920
up that mountain now where.

1942
01:33:21.720 --> 01:33:22.960
We stayed at this time.

1943
01:33:23.039 --> 01:33:25.319
If you're going to Gatlin Bird, you just go right

1944
01:33:25.720 --> 01:33:28.359
up this road and pass this. It's like what do

1945
01:33:28.399 --> 01:33:32.800
you call it the little station whatever with the forest.

1946
01:33:32.520 --> 01:33:33.520
Ranger station or whatever.

1947
01:33:33.560 --> 01:33:34.399
You go up past that.

1948
01:33:34.840 --> 01:33:37.399
The difference in where we stayed this time, we were

1949
01:33:37.439 --> 01:33:41.279
actually higher up in elevation than the first cabin, but

1950
01:33:41.560 --> 01:33:44.479
it was more populated. I have videos and pictures from

1951
01:33:44.479 --> 01:33:47.479
that also. But the thing is the other cabin is

1952
01:33:48.119 --> 01:33:51.439
high in elevation, but at the time. Now, I can't

1953
01:33:51.439 --> 01:33:53.880
speak for today because, like I said, this was not

1954
01:33:54.079 --> 01:33:54.560
last year.

1955
01:33:54.600 --> 01:33:57.760
This was November of twenty twenty two. That area.

1956
01:33:57.960 --> 01:34:02.000
Like I said, we had abandoned unfinished cabin to the

1957
01:34:02.119 --> 01:34:04.800
right of it. Okay, hold on, if I'm looking at

1958
01:34:04.840 --> 01:34:06.720
the front of the cabinet's to the right, and we

1959
01:34:06.800 --> 01:34:09.000
had one neighbor to the left of us, and we

1960
01:34:09.119 --> 01:34:11.239
never saw them the whole time we saw the car,

1961
01:34:11.279 --> 01:34:13.920
but we never saw them. Now, the people who were

1962
01:34:13.960 --> 01:34:16.960
back on the deck flashing down into the valley, they

1963
01:34:16.960 --> 01:34:20.039
were our neighbors also, but they were only our neighbors

1964
01:34:20.079 --> 01:34:22.399
because of the location that we were in and we

1965
01:34:22.439 --> 01:34:25.159
could actually see them if I were to guess they

1966
01:34:25.520 --> 01:34:28.479
if let's just say we were thirty feet in the air,

1967
01:34:28.560 --> 01:34:32.640
they had to be about sixty because the cabin that

1968
01:34:32.680 --> 01:34:34.199
they had was a little bigger.

1969
01:34:33.920 --> 01:34:37.159
Than ours, because our hours was only a two bedroom.

1970
01:34:37.560 --> 01:34:40.079
Their cabin they looked like they had maybe a five

1971
01:34:40.119 --> 01:34:42.720
bedroom cabin, and they had a super nice deck on

1972
01:34:42.760 --> 01:34:43.079
the back.

1973
01:34:43.319 --> 01:34:45.920
But all of this, Man, if you're ever in this area,

1974
01:34:46.000 --> 01:34:47.279
jar Maya, if you're.

1975
01:34:47.199 --> 01:34:50.880
Interested, man, because there's a lot of people that I've

1976
01:34:50.880 --> 01:34:54.720
heard on your podcast that I would love to get

1977
01:34:54.720 --> 01:34:58.159
out and just do some researching or whatever you want

1978
01:34:58.159 --> 01:35:00.520
to call it with man. But yeah, but if people

1979
01:35:00.520 --> 01:35:02.920
are interested in this area as far as just traveling,

1980
01:35:03.039 --> 01:35:05.760
not just the Bigfoot or both, Man, it's a great

1981
01:35:05.800 --> 01:35:08.920
area to come to, actually for people who've never been there.

1982
01:35:09.039 --> 01:35:12.079
If they do decide to actually go to Gatlinburg or

1983
01:35:12.279 --> 01:35:14.680
Christmas or something like that, the whole town of.

1984
01:35:14.640 --> 01:35:17.880
Gatlinburg is open for Christmas. That nothing's closed down.

1985
01:35:17.960 --> 01:35:20.159
If it is, there's maybe one or two spots, but

1986
01:35:20.560 --> 01:35:22.720
they make all of their money around the holidays.

1987
01:35:22.760 --> 01:35:24.479
So that is definitely something that.

1988
01:35:24.439 --> 01:35:26.920
People should look into if they want to come out

1989
01:35:26.960 --> 01:35:29.840
they've never experienced being out of the mountains in the cabins.

1990
01:35:30.159 --> 01:35:33.920
I will not share the location with anyone but you

1991
01:35:34.239 --> 01:35:37.039
where we stayed at, But if people wanted just a

1992
01:35:37.119 --> 01:35:40.079
general area, I would definitely be willing to share that.

1993
01:35:40.079 --> 01:35:43.720
Part, which you would say general. The general area you

1994
01:35:43.760 --> 01:35:49.399
can share on the podcast is like Severville severe Yep, gotcha,

1995
01:35:49.479 --> 01:35:52.600
because I know I'm going to get dude. After every episode,

1996
01:35:52.760 --> 01:35:57.359
I get you. Guys are always like, hey tell me where.

1997
01:35:58.560 --> 01:36:01.600
Yeah, but listen, Hey, look that's confidential.

1998
01:36:01.920 --> 01:36:05.880
But there's this older guy Jeremiah from a while ago,

1999
01:36:06.439 --> 01:36:08.319
and I'm gonna just bring it to you to make

2000
01:36:08.399 --> 01:36:10.640
the only way I could probably make you remember because.

2001
01:36:10.399 --> 01:36:12.199
I know you, man, you have so many episodes.

2002
01:36:12.279 --> 01:36:15.119
There was this guy who I think he had a girlfriend,

2003
01:36:15.159 --> 01:36:17.680
and he was like, I just want them to go away.

2004
01:36:17.840 --> 01:36:21.800
They slapt the house, They've killed dogs and all of this.

2005
01:36:22.159 --> 01:36:24.159
It was that kind I know exactly, Man, I will

2006
01:36:24.239 --> 01:36:25.039
and you're talking about you.

2007
01:36:25.199 --> 01:36:29.640
I would love to was that guy from Tennessee. Oh yeah, man,

2008
01:36:29.800 --> 01:36:32.039
jere I don't know if you've ever done it.

2009
01:36:32.079 --> 01:36:34.680
Man, if you can try and see if he's okay

2010
01:36:35.079 --> 01:36:37.079
with someone who else who's had an experience.

2011
01:36:37.119 --> 01:36:39.319
Man, I'm not trying to go and stir up anything.

2012
01:36:39.760 --> 01:36:41.880
I would love to just go out and just explore

2013
01:36:41.920 --> 01:36:42.840
they guy's property.

2014
01:36:42.880 --> 01:36:44.039
Man, if ever possible.

2015
01:36:44.079 --> 01:36:47.439
Man, I know he will be I know he listens.

2016
01:36:47.880 --> 01:36:51.239
But yeah, that would be very interesting, I think because

2017
01:36:51.359 --> 01:36:55.600
from what it sounds like, stuff is still happening off

2018
01:36:55.640 --> 01:36:58.399
and on. It's a pretty wild area for sure where

2019
01:36:58.439 --> 01:36:58.880
he's at.

2020
01:36:59.159 --> 01:37:01.800
I hate that. I hate that for that old guy. Man.

2021
01:37:02.000 --> 01:37:03.479
That's no way for anyone to live.

2022
01:37:03.600 --> 01:37:07.399
Man, and his neighbors too. It's the crazy thing. It's

2023
01:37:07.399 --> 01:37:11.520
not just him, but don it has been. It's such

2024
01:37:11.520 --> 01:37:14.439
a fun, fun time chatting with you. And I feel

2025
01:37:14.520 --> 01:37:16.920
like there's going to be more that comes out about

2026
01:37:17.079 --> 01:37:20.359
this whole night. I just have a feeling that the

2027
01:37:20.439 --> 01:37:23.520
story's not done. But I appreciate you ritching out to me.

2028
01:37:24.119 --> 01:37:26.399
Yeah, Man, no problem, I appreciate too, Man, And I

2029
01:37:26.479 --> 01:37:28.000
must I have to give you your flowers.

2030
01:37:28.039 --> 01:37:30.560
Man. What you're doing, man is great. Keep up the

2031
01:37:30.600 --> 01:37:34.520
great work, man, full force ahead. Don't let anyone stop you. Man.

2032
01:37:34.600 --> 01:37:37.159
If you seem like an honest guy, hopefully you and

2033
01:37:37.239 --> 01:37:39.520
your family had a great Christmas.

2034
01:37:39.000 --> 01:37:40.119
And things like that. Man.

2035
01:37:40.159 --> 01:37:42.399
And it may be a push man, but hopefully man,

2036
01:37:42.439 --> 01:37:43.159
one day, Man, we.

2037
01:37:43.159 --> 01:37:45.800
Could sit down and talk about something man and maybe

2038
01:37:45.880 --> 01:37:48.319
just set up a camping trip or something. Man, because

2039
01:37:48.640 --> 01:37:52.279
I live maybe about twenty minutes from Okoy River, and

2040
01:37:52.439 --> 01:37:54.680
me and my fiance we like to take our bully

2041
01:37:54.760 --> 01:37:58.079
puppy and go up into the mountains, get fresh air

2042
01:37:58.199 --> 01:38:00.520
and just look over and just gonna wind up there.

2043
01:38:00.560 --> 01:38:02.840
Man. But if you're ever in East Tennessee, you're in

2044
01:38:02.920 --> 01:38:04.119
a miszou. Where are you?

2045
01:38:04.840 --> 01:38:06.199
Central Iowa?

2046
01:38:06.600 --> 01:38:10.439
Yeah, Central Iowa? Okay, If you're ever in East Tennessee.

2047
01:38:10.560 --> 01:38:14.000
Man in this area, man, you do have my contact

2048
01:38:14.039 --> 01:38:14.880
and my email.

2049
01:38:14.960 --> 01:38:15.119
Man.

2050
01:38:15.199 --> 01:38:17.520
If you want to set something up, man, well we

2051
01:38:17.560 --> 01:38:19.640
can just get out and do something fun. It doesn't

2052
01:38:19.640 --> 01:38:22.079
even have to be Bigfoot related. But if you ever

2053
01:38:22.159 --> 01:38:25.159
need some guidance or something fun to do, or me

2054
01:38:25.319 --> 01:38:27.319
to point you in a direction in this area, man,

2055
01:38:27.640 --> 01:38:29.680
please feel free to reach out to me.

2056
01:38:30.479 --> 01:38:33.840
Yes, Sarah and Don thank you so much for coming on.

2057
01:38:34.039 --> 01:38:36.600
You're at big for Society. Our goal is to provide

2058
01:38:36.720 --> 01:38:40.840
a platform for those that have encountered Bigfoot to share

2059
01:38:40.880 --> 01:38:44.680
their encounter and a safe and respected environment. But we

2060
01:38:44.800 --> 01:38:48.199
need to hear your story. If you've experienced something that

2061
01:38:48.239 --> 01:38:53.119
you just can't explain, please send me an email at

2062
01:38:53.159 --> 01:38:57.000
Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com. Then we can start

2063
01:38:57.000 --> 01:39:00.319
the conversation. I know a lot of you have not

2064
01:39:00.439 --> 01:39:05.520
shared your encounter at all. It's been twenty years and

2065
01:39:05.560 --> 01:39:08.520
it's time that you get this off your chest and

2066
01:39:08.560 --> 01:39:10.880
then you can get some well deserved for rest because

2067
01:39:10.880 --> 01:39:14.359
I know you haven't been sleeping. I understand what you're

2068
01:39:14.359 --> 01:39:17.319
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2091
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2092
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2093
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