Nov. 22, 2025

Firefighter Photographs Bigfoot in Oregon Wildfire Zone

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Season 1

In 2016, wildfires swept through the mountains east of John Day, Oregon — and a wildland firefighter captured shocking photos of a massive Bigfoot moving through the burned forest.


In this episode of Bigfoot Society (Ep. 961), host Jeremiah Byron talks with Sayra Hall from the Bigfoot Fadez YouTube channel, who spoke directly with a friend of the firefighter behind the photos. Together, they uncover how these images reignited debate over Oregon’s Bigfoot hotspots and the mystery that still surrounds them today.


You’ll also hear gripping eyewitness stories — hunters claiming Bigfoot stole their deer, mysterious orb lights in the woods, and unexplained disappearances deep in Clackamas County’s Bigfoot Country.


If you’re fascinated by real Bigfoot encounters, Oregon wilderness mysteries, and firsthand accounts that challenge belief, this episode is a must-listen.

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You're listening to Bigfoot Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron. In

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this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to bring

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you first hand encounters from people who say they've seen

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something impossible. From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers to

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quiet farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere,

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and each one leaves us with more questions than answers.

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These are the voices of the people who've lived it.

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So settle in because today you'll hear another account that

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just might change the way you see the woods forever.

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So stay with us. All right, big Forest Society, You've

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got the privilege of talking to Sarah Hall today. Thanks

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for being on the show. Sarah, how are you great?

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How are you Danjremah?

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I'm doing great, awesome, Thanks for having me. Yeah, this

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is a fun interview for me because even though I

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spend all my time pretty much doing the podcast, I

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also love watching stuff to do with Bigfoot, and you

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are the person behind Bigfoot Fae, which is really my favorite,

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I would say my favorite YouTube Bigfoot channel. You know

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it's incredible and everyone needs to be subscribed to that.

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So just a few things about Sarah Sarah's a barber

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from Clacamus County, Oregon, which has a ton of activity

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in its Most listeners will know any town in Clacamus.

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I mean that's your mount Hood, National Forest area. Places

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like what Malala is in Clacamus too, Write and Es, Decado.

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Culton, Beaver Creek, Oregon.

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City, goat Mountain, all that good stuff. Do you mind

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sharing how you got into doing the Bigfoot Fades channel

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and what all is entailed with that?

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Yeah, actually has a lot to do with you. But

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let me start first with kind of my interest in Bigfoot.

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I want to say it kind of started back in

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twenty twelve. I was working in Portland at a barber

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shop over in Selwa that I helped open, and my

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brother kept sending me all these like YouTube videos and saying, hey,

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big that's real, and he's kind of a prankster type

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of guy, so I thought he was kind of messing

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with me, but I realized he was actually being pretty serious.

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So I started watching everything I could find on YouTube,

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and back in twenty twelve, this is kind of when

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YouTube sort of took off and started. There wasn't really

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much out there, so I just started asking people that

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I was cutting their hair. And I only had one

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person that told me, hey, I used to be a

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firefighter down in Sisters Organ and actually I got like

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a big casting down there, and a bunch of my

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friends told me that it was. They wouldn't tell me

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what it was, and so I said really, and he

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was pretty serious, you know. I could tell he was

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tell me the truth. And that was the only story

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I got. And it kind of just died from twenty

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twelve until this year. Actually, I kind of dropped it

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and didn't have any leads. Well, anyways, I started working

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in a few new areas and I moved out to

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the forest of Clackamus County about I want to say,

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five years ago. And then my brother goes, hey, you

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should start looking and asking people again, and I thought, okay,

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So I started asking people and actually, so this is

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how it gets into your channel. Somebody was telling me, yeah,

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you should actually check out Sasquatch Chronicles and I said, okay.

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So I started watching some stories on there, and then

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your channel showed up, and then there was some stories

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that were kind of hitting Colton malala esdicaid and I'm like,

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no way, they're out here, and I'm like looking outside, like, wait,

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they could actually, So I commented on one of your

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stories and then you reached out to me actually and said, hey,

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I'd love to hear more from you. So that's where

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I started collecting stories from other people, and all of

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a sudden they just started flooding in and so yes,

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my channel to answer your question was basically to help

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support your channel and collect stories from other people that

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have had encounters.

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That's it's it's so cool. If everyone that listened to

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the show did something like that. Can you imagine, Oh

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my goodness, we would be so much further along. But

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Sarah that the thing about your channel is that you

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are it's such an active area Clackamiss County people. I

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don't know if you really get it until you go

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out there, which I did spend some time out there

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this summer in July, and it is extremely saturated. The

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things that you have going. I would even imagine you

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can probably go up to most people on the street

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in certain towns and say like just be like, hey,

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what's your bigfoot story? And they will have, if not

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a first person account, they will have at least some

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secondhand thing that they've heard. Usually you can get to

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these areas where the towns intersect the forest. I would

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guess what forty five minutes from Portland probably yeah? About that, yeah,

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wild wild stuff. So I remember the first time I

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listened to your show. It's very cool because has certain

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NPR vibe to it, because you could actually hear the

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sound effects of you cutting hair as you're talking to

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the person and about their bigfoot story. Really really cool stuff.

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Do you have any favorite stories that come to mind

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that you've heard over the short amount of time that

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you've been able to talk to people about their encounters.

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Yeah, I would say my favorite story because I didn't

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actually believe it at first. It was just so out.

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There was one where a guy told me he was

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hunting in the Redland Forest of Oregon City area. He

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had to go past the gate. He was hunting with

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his dad, but his dad was kind of often in

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another area, and he sees a deer through his scope

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and he gets the deer and he said, what he

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thought at first was a bear came up and tried

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to take the deer, but when he looked closer, it

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wasn't a bear. It was like a giant sas squatch.

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She said, and he goes, yeah, I just popped off

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three shots kind of near it, just to kind of

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scare it off, and it did kind of a jump,

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and then it just kind of took off through the forest.

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And I couldn't believe this guy wasn't more like excited

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about it. He actually seemed annoyed that bigfoot tried to

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take his deer. Right, So, that story, I think, really

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stood out to me, and again, like it was really

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hard for my brain to process this new information until

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a week later, another man who doesn't know this person,

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told me he also saw a bigfoot in that same

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area of Viola, in the Redland area, and it was

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just standing in the road when him and his dad

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were kind of driving around there, and he goes, yeah,

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first I thought it was a man, then I thought

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it was an animal. And when we drove it closer

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to it was just sort of staring at us. And

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it almost made me wonder if it was the same

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real bigfoot because there both two years ago in the

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same area.

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Oh man, Oh okay. When you're talking to people in

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areas of Clacamus County when you're doing your barber thing,

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have you found that there are certain areas that keep

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coming up in stories. I have found that myself with

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areas like Clacamus County and really Oregon in general.

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Yeah, I feel like up in that Tumula Mountain previously

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known as Squad Mountain up off of Oregon's Big Foot Highway,

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there's definitely a lot of activity up there, and I've

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definitely heard from there, and then that stretch over into Colton,

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it seems like there's just a really hot spot through

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that whole area there where all that activity, and I'd

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actually like to create a map like you've done and

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start kind of seeing where these connect to each other.

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I would recommend you do that probably now instead out

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of three years in the future. Okay, like I did.

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You're almost on a thousand episodes.

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Yeah, because I the other day, I try to work

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on it every day. I'm like, I think, and I'm no, dude,

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You've got like six hundred episodes left to go through

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for this map.

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Oh man.

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But it's really worth it, because Sarah, this is what

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happened to me when I went out to Oregon this July.

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So I'm out down in Oakridge. I'm like, all right,

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I'm going up to Mount Hood and so I'm driving

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up and over the passes, and I'm going from Subtle

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Lake up to Estacada area, okay, and through Detroit and stuff,

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and I this is before the map, And I was like,

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I know there's stuff that's happened all over here, but

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I couldn't like remember all of it. I was like, oh,

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my goodness, this is why I need a map, because

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when I'm out here, there is so much stuff, and like,

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I need I need to remember. Okay, you need to

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check out places like fish Lake before you get to

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the pass. And next time I'll be more prepared and

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I'll be able to look up pretty much all the

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people I've talked to. Have you found that when you're

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talking to people, are they more of a certain age bracket?

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Are these more younger people or older people or is

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it really all over the place.

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I feel like most of them, I'd say about seventy

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percent or older people. I've got a lot of older

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hunters that, you know, they don't have the internet. They

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come out of the woods every six months for a

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haircut kind of thing, and some of them I've cut

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their hair multiple times before even asking them about it,

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and very seriously, you know, they'll tell me, hey, I

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have seen something back in the sixties or seventies up

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until recently. And then there's a few younger people like

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the guy with the hunting with the deer and that

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he was i'd say younger, probably in his thirties, a

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couple of thirty year olds, and I've even had some

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pretty young kids actually tell me that they've seen things

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at night at like one in the morning, like three tall, black,

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shadowy figures. And then I had another man tell me

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the same story in that same area.

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Yeah, I think I remember because your channel at the beginning,

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I had the was it teenagers that were around the

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the the was it like woodyard or pretty much? I

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think it was like right outside of Esticada and they

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had a sight. Yes.

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Yeah, it's an old abandoned lumber mill that I believe

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was taken down. It actually feels pretty haunted out there.

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I don't know if I'm allowed to say, like certain

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TV show names, but it kind of reminds me of

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a you can do whatever you want stranger things. Have

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you seen stranger things at all?

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Totally?

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It feels like that.

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Really.

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It feels the energy out especially we'll just focus on

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like Esticada. I've gone out there a few times. It's

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it's very intense out there, Like he just feels like

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you're in this all of a sudden, this energy bubble

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when you go out there. So yeah, it kind of

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feels like stranger things.

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I will agree with you on that. I did go

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out in that area this slash July, and it's one

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of those areas in Oregon you get out in the

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woods and things can things can change really quick.

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Yeah, it's you know the whole like it gets quiet

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and things of that that nature. And and hopefully someday

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there'll be there'll be more info that comes out about

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that trip, but not quite yet, but uh yeah.

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And I've been going out there since I was like

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a really small child. My mom took us to the

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mount Hood Forest and I mean since we were like

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little babies. And I still remember this one time we

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went up to the Carver Park and she found this

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actual like wolf dog and took it home. Oh wow,

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she ended up having to rehome this dog because it

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was just so wild. But as decade has always had

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like a wild side to it, and I've been associated

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with it since just even a small child. So as

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far as even bringing wolf dogs home.

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Over the years, and especially you did mention that you

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you actually live out in the forest. Really yes, in.

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Your Creek Melino area.

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Have you had anything the ordinary happened to yourself out

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there in that area.

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So I've been trying to pay more attention. I actually

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looked up to see if there's any sightings in my area,

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and I did find one from Cliff Berkson on his

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website from Beaver Creek organ and it said it was

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off Beaver Creek Road and Upper Highland. And so I

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know where that area is. I know it's in you know,

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distance where if there was a big foot it could

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get over to my area. And so I started looking

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around and I found a couple questionable possible footprints and

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took some castings of those. I've seen some weird kind

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of like limbs that were placed up against a tree.

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And when I asked all my family, they all said

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none of them did that. And you know, I've been

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trying to tell them, hey, you know that it could

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be bigfoot and try to educate them on it, and

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now they're all kind of going, huh, maybe they are

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out here.

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Oh absolutely, And I mean I just I cannot imagine

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being someone that lives in that area, and just the

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opportunity to be able to just just go out in

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these areas, the areas I was going out to and Esticada.

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I mean, you'd be on top of this ridge and

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you would see all these branches and trees just like

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twist broken, like eight to ten feet off. And I

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don't know if that's something that you see down in

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your area, but it is just it's breath taking the

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first time you actually see that in person. It is

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wild stuff.

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Yeah. I saw one actually a couple of days ago

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for the first time. I was driving and they were

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doing tree trimming along the very end of Upper Highland

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and one caught my eye. Go, oh my god, look like,

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you know, a tree about this big and it had

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been twisted off to the side. And so when I

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came back that way later in the day, I actually

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tried to get video of it, but I had a

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truck behind me, so I had to be kind of

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quick about it. Sort of a sketchy spot to stop

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and you know, private property. But yeah, it didn't look right.

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I've never seen a tree twisted like that. And then

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I noticed behind it like a creek waterway, and when

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I looked at old street view. It was actually all forced,

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but it has now been turned into like a scaled

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down tree farm for like Christmas trees. So if you

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go further up into Colton, one guy was telling me

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that his mom and aunt I think it was about

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thirty years ago, had seen a giant bigfoot run across

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the way from on a few miles up from there.

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Oh my goodness. And this is actually you have. This

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is in a video. Everything you just shared it. Sometimes

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you'll put out videos where you're like just driving along

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the road, which is cool in itself because then you

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get to see what it's like to drive out in Oregon. Yeah,

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you actually show I think video or pictures of that

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tree that you found, right I did?

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Yeah? Yeah, I'm always driving with dash can because I'm

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hoping i'll catch one run out in front of me,

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my luck around behind me and my back dash can

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isn't set up yet.

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Right, that'd be cool. Though. Something I've noticed that you

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started to do, which I think is cool and I

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want to start trying to implement this myself, is you've

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actually started to get people to come on camera to

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share their encounters. And some of those just seem like

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there are people maybe out walking on the side of

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the road in town, maybe not especially in a barber chair,

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but I can can you share, like, how how does

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that process work? How are you able to get those

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people on a camera? Because it's one thing to get

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audio of someone, but to get someone actually put their

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face out there, that's another thing. Entirely.

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Yeah, I feel like, I don't know. I've always been

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tel marketing and sales, and my philosophy has always been

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it doesn't hurt to ask them if they want dessert,

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you know, So if you don't ask, you know, the

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least I can say is no. I definitely get a

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lot of no's. So you know, there's a lot of

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people that don't even want to be on the podcasts,

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but they still want to tell me their story. And

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I think it ties back into another thought I've had

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is that I've seen kind of a split where some

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people have a lot of excitement with their story and

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the other half kind of exhibit this sort of PTSD,

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And I feel like the ones that do want to

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go on camera, I sort of lean into the fact

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I'm feeling more of that excitement from them, and even

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I've kind of dropped the subject with them and they'll

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come back later and like really bring it up. So

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I'm just trying to not be too pushy with people

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and let them, you know, lead their story if they

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want to.

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Have you ever experienced where you are talking to someone

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about their encounter and their emotional states starts changing rapidly?

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Have you ever experienced that yourself?

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Yeah? I was actually doing my friend Gail's hair yesterday,

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were doing a hair color on her, and she told

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me a story before, non Bigfoot related, but it was

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sort of a ghost story about how she saw someone

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that looked like I think Charles Manson back at her

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Nebraska house. Anyways, I was doing her hair again yesterday

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and she goes, you know, the more we've been talking

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about it, the more I had this repressed memory that's

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been coming back. And I was about five years old

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and I was in Nebraska and I went off and

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it was really humid out, the forest was really quiet,

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and I saw this branch just swinging like someone had

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taken it and swung it. And she goes, I kept

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trying to want to tell you about this, but my

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mind kept saying, no, that didn't happen. But she goes, no,

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it happened. I remember it, and it was like something

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didn't want me there. Just got so quiet, and I

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went back to my family as quick as I could,

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and I thought about that, and I was thinking about

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my own memories, like I told you as a child, Like,

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you know, did I see some weird booking people when

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I was camping with my family? You know, you start

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thinking about these memories and it's almost like a therapy

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session where it starts reopening these locked memories that people have.

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No it really is. Interviewing the person is almost as

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interesting as the subject matter itself. Sometimes it is. That's

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how I feel. Anyways, the encounters that you are taking

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and there primarily i'd say a lot of them are

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from the Clackamus County area. Have you found any patterns

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as to like, are there a lot of aggressive ones

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or there a lot where you know, the bigfoot really

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isn't bothered and kind of just walks off and like

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a see you later, or any patterns like that.

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I'd say more of them are aggressive, actually, which has

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me kind of feeling like I don't know if I

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want to go out there and physically look for them.

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I'm still on the fence about that. I'm kind of

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enjoying being more on the research side. One story up

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in Tumula Mountain was two men went up there years ago.

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They found a bear that had been like ripped in

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half and its head ripped off and it was still

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freshly bleeding. He knows. My friend was, you know, six

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foot tall, and he's jumping over logs and running out

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of there. They just felt something watching them, and I'm like, okay.

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And then I heard another story i think on your

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podcast about a hunter found under a tree that had

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been ripped apart, also by some unknown animal. Yeah, and

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so I'm kind of seeing this pattern with like a

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ripping apart type of thing. So that's where the data

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starts to collect and go because you know, I've told

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other people the story and they believe it or they go, oh,

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there's nowhere you know it had to have been another

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bear or this or that. Well right now, you know

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there's missing people up in that area right now that

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they have search parties out there for. And so when

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you get these kind of things going on, it kind

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of starts to hold water.

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No, absolutely, and that's actually a patterns come up on

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the podcast too, And you're absolutely right, because man to

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tag onto that. So your account that you have of

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the bear being torn apart, and then I believe the

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one that you reference to on my show that's down

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in the Talladega National Forest in Alabama. But then you

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also have accounts where people are finding grizzly bears out

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in Montana with their necks broken, and the kind of

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common thing there is that those things take something with

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hands to do, right, I mean, to tear something apart,

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or to break something neck or you have a lot

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of reports of animals found twisted, like foxes being twisted,

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things like that. I agree with you. I don't think

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that I would ever I'll go on record, I will

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not ever go especially in that area out in the

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woods by myself. I don't think that is a smart

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idea at all, multiple multiple reasons, not just Bigfoot, but

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there's also some pretty wild encounters you can have with

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humans out there as well. Yeah, I've heard some really

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horror stories about that.

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I've heard that too, kind of up that Tumul Mountain,

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someone said something about and this story, of course I

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should have written it down, but it was something about

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there was some kind of cult up there that either

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they or somebody else and you kind of stumbled upon

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and there were some kind of weird animal sacrifice stuff

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going on up there, and so anyways, Yeah, they've had

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a history up in the woods and mount Hood of

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some really odd activity even still to this day, still

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stuff going on, just kind of different camps going on

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in Bonfire's night and this sketchy kind of energy up there.

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Sometimes have you ever experienced people that have also seen

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things besides Bigfoot, but in the same area, maybe things

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of high strangeness, orbs or lights or things that are

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hard for them to explain besides Bigfoot.

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Yeah, it's buried in my notes a little bit, but

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I feel like there's at least two or three stories

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where there's orbs associated with Bigfoot sightings and Christmas tree

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areas and forest areas. I believe one story the guy

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was chasing the orb and trying to figure out where

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it was going. And I feel like the color seems

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to keep being blue orbs. It is the theme I

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have heard of orange orbs. One of my clients told

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me that he's seen one up and I want to

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say Washington area, and it was kind of floating and

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then it just sort of shot off in the sky.

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So that's another ORB story there, and I find those

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really fascinating.

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Oh, I as well. I mean, and it's a thing

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where I've never seen a bigfoot. But and it sounds

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like you are in the same camp. You have not

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had a visual yet you're set either. Yeah, but I've

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never seen an ORB either. Have you seen an ORB yet?

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I haven't seen an ORB. But there was one night

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when I was living in Selwen, they were posting on

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Facebook saying, Hey, the Northern lights are gonna be out tonight,

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so you should go out and check them out. So

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I was upstairs and again this is around twenty twelve,

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and I was looking out the window to see if

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i'd see the Northern lights, and I saw these two

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really bright white lights that were kind of going like this,

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and then they stopped, and then they started going like this.

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I was like, what the heck's I ran downstairs and

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I went outside to kind of get a better look,

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and they were gone. So that's the only time I've

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ever seen anything that actually stopped midair so calculated and

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actually went in a different direction. I don't think it

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could have been a helicopter. I chalked it off as

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maybe government drones that were trying to look at the

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lights or something, but now I'm not sure.

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Okay, that's really interesting.

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It's too far from the airport for it to be

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like an air traffic control light.

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Also, good call, Good call. Does anyone bring up anything

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any interactions with Bigfoot that would be labeled more paranormal

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or things like I heard a voice in my head

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or I saw one disappear. Does that ever come up?

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Or is it more like we saw something that looked

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like a really big ape out in the woods and

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have no idea what it is.

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Yeah, I feel like I've definitely got kind of a

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mix of stories. I feel like there was always there's

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been this split of people that believe in Bigfoot, and

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then people that don't believe in Bigfoot, and now the

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people that believe in Bigfoot. That community has split again

465
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into people that believe in Bigfoot and then people that

466
00:24:58.079 --> 00:25:00.920
believe in paranormal Bigfoot. And I sort of sit in

467
00:25:00.920 --> 00:25:03.680
the middle as an investigator, open to like all these

468
00:25:03.680 --> 00:25:07.079
different encounters because you know, like I was saying before,

469
00:25:07.200 --> 00:25:09.559
sometimes my brain says, Oh, that can't be real until

470
00:25:09.559 --> 00:25:11.960
I start hearing more data, and then I'm like, well,

471
00:25:11.960 --> 00:25:14.119
obviously they have to eat deer or something. So now

472
00:25:14.160 --> 00:25:17.960
that does make sense. So the paranormal to me, you know,

473
00:25:18.039 --> 00:25:20.960
my brain of processing it is, you know, maybe we

474
00:25:21.039 --> 00:25:23.519
just don't understand everything the way that we've been told.

475
00:25:25.319 --> 00:25:28.559
So like energy, I've always been into, you know, personally,

476
00:25:28.640 --> 00:25:30.640
like my religion and all that. I grew up Catholic

477
00:25:30.720 --> 00:25:32.279
and Christian and all that, but I feel like I've

478
00:25:32.319 --> 00:25:35.440
kind of segued more into like a quantum physics type

479
00:25:35.440 --> 00:25:39.119
of person. You know. I wouldn't say personally, you know,

480
00:25:39.279 --> 00:25:42.079
I'm super like religious. I'm kind of more into like

481
00:25:42.119 --> 00:25:45.440
feeling like there's kind of like stranger things like when

482
00:25:45.440 --> 00:25:47.799
they were in that upside down world. I almost feel

483
00:25:47.799 --> 00:25:50.079
like there's this other energy world out there that we're

484
00:25:50.119 --> 00:25:53.799
tapped into, and I just don't know that, you know,

485
00:25:53.839 --> 00:25:56.440
we know as very much about it yet. So that's

486
00:25:56.480 --> 00:25:57.960
just kind of what my vibe is.

487
00:25:58.759 --> 00:26:02.799
Yeah, I know, Zachly what you're talking about. Have you

488
00:26:03.240 --> 00:26:07.880
been able to I would really recommend reading Doctor Simeon's

489
00:26:08.200 --> 00:26:12.200
Doctor Simeon Hines book if you get a chance to. Uh,

490
00:26:12.839 --> 00:26:16.319
it really lays out a lot of cool stuff and

491
00:26:18.680 --> 00:26:21.759
or or the two part interview that he does on

492
00:26:21.960 --> 00:26:26.119
Flash of Beauty. I enjoyed that. I mean that. I

493
00:26:26.119 --> 00:26:28.720
also yeah, you could listen to him on Big for

494
00:26:28.880 --> 00:26:32.039
Society too, But the two part interview on Flash of

495
00:26:32.039 --> 00:26:39.920
Beauty is is phenomenal, phenomenal. I would recommend it. You

496
00:26:40.200 --> 00:26:46.279
had a So you sent me an email a while back, Yes,

497
00:26:47.039 --> 00:26:52.359
and I want to if you could. So it's some

498
00:26:52.559 --> 00:26:57.559
pictures that you sent and they're really really interesting, and

499
00:26:57.839 --> 00:27:02.680
can you share the story of of how you got

500
00:27:02.759 --> 00:27:05.680
these these pictures first and what you know about the

501
00:27:05.680 --> 00:27:07.039
background of them.

502
00:27:07.440 --> 00:27:09.599
Yeah, so they're actually from somebody who had been on

503
00:27:09.640 --> 00:27:14.920
my podcast. He has two different stories here and then

504
00:27:14.960 --> 00:27:16.759
I'll look at this story here real quick. So he

505
00:27:17.319 --> 00:27:23.440
is the story on here that's called let's see it's

506
00:27:23.440 --> 00:27:26.400
the Bigfoot nineteen ninety six s Stickata Sidi. So he

507
00:27:26.440 --> 00:27:30.160
had a citing himself in nineteen ninety six, and then

508
00:27:30.480 --> 00:27:35.319
his friend's son had an eagle cap wilderness siting that's

509
00:27:35.359 --> 00:27:37.720
pretty interesting where he had a visual where it came

510
00:27:37.759 --> 00:27:40.319
out on a road on them. So that's a great

511
00:27:40.319 --> 00:27:43.799
story to check out. So I followed up with him later.

512
00:27:46.119 --> 00:27:48.240
He actually told me he goes, hey, look at this,

513
00:27:48.319 --> 00:27:50.440
and I go what is that? And He's kind of

514
00:27:50.440 --> 00:27:52.480
looking through his phone at first, like he's so excited

515
00:27:52.519 --> 00:27:54.599
to show this to me. And so he finally shows

516
00:27:54.599 --> 00:27:55.960
it to me, and I didn't know what. I was like.

517
00:27:56.000 --> 00:27:57.240
I go, I go, what is that? He goes, it's

518
00:27:57.240 --> 00:27:59.039
a bigfoot and I looked at it like, no, it's not.

519
00:27:59.160 --> 00:28:01.440
And I looked at it, oh my, and uh, not

520
00:28:01.599 --> 00:28:04.079
this picture, but the other one. I actually when I

521
00:28:04.119 --> 00:28:07.119
clicked on the other one, I could see a face

522
00:28:07.160 --> 00:28:09.960
on it, like right away, and I go, how'd you

523
00:28:09.960 --> 00:28:12.519
get this? And he goes, well, it was our friend's

524
00:28:12.839 --> 00:28:17.359
friend that's a wild Lend fire fighter that had sent

525
00:28:17.400 --> 00:28:19.720
it to us in our forum. And I go, it's

526
00:28:19.799 --> 00:28:21.599
okay if I share this. He goes, yeah, absolutely, go

527
00:28:21.960 --> 00:28:23.680
out go at it, and he goes, yeah, he was

528
00:28:24.079 --> 00:28:27.079
out there working an he's seen a bigfo out there

529
00:28:27.119 --> 00:28:30.319
just sifting through ashes. And at first my brain was like,

530
00:28:30.319 --> 00:28:32.480
why would it be sift sifting through ashes? You know?

531
00:28:32.559 --> 00:28:36.160
So I started researching why something would you know, have

532
00:28:36.240 --> 00:28:39.119
put ashes on itself, and it said sometimes if you

533
00:28:39.200 --> 00:28:42.559
have burn injuries, it could be healing for heat protection.

534
00:28:43.599 --> 00:28:47.079
There was a few different examples that came up. But

535
00:28:47.200 --> 00:28:49.599
then if you look at the other picture and go

536
00:28:49.680 --> 00:28:52.880
to the top left of it and kind of zoom in.

537
00:28:52.880 --> 00:28:54.960
It almost looks like there's another one up there watching,

538
00:28:55.440 --> 00:28:58.440
So it's really other. Yeah, it's the other picture, I think,

539
00:28:58.839 --> 00:29:00.359
the one where it's like one.

540
00:29:00.599 --> 00:29:03.640
Yeah, that not the Darth Vader one. I call the

541
00:29:03.680 --> 00:29:05.279
other one the Darth Vavor one.

542
00:29:05.680 --> 00:29:09.720
Yeah, oh right here there. Yeah, because if you look,

543
00:29:10.640 --> 00:29:13.200
it's like a different color of black compared to the

544
00:29:13.279 --> 00:29:18.079
tree total. So I noticed that. So something I've been

545
00:29:18.119 --> 00:29:20.960
trying to do too is really so. I also went

546
00:29:21.000 --> 00:29:24.160
to school for technology and cybersecurity, and I feel like

547
00:29:24.160 --> 00:29:26.240
I just kind of have a knack for the tech stuff.

548
00:29:26.279 --> 00:29:29.720
And uh, I've been using AI and Photoshop and all

549
00:29:29.720 --> 00:29:31.599
this stuff to kind of really enhance and bring these

550
00:29:31.599 --> 00:29:35.000
photos to life. So the third photo where you kind

551
00:29:35.000 --> 00:29:37.319
of see more of a picture, I went in and

552
00:29:37.359 --> 00:29:41.119
cleaned it up the best I could, and uh, you

553
00:29:41.119 --> 00:29:43.680
could also see almost like a very wide looking nose,

554
00:29:44.240 --> 00:29:47.799
like two eyes, pigment of like skin that's lighter than

555
00:29:47.839 --> 00:29:51.759
the hairline. And I was actually able to use an

556
00:29:51.799 --> 00:29:55.000
AI to actually bring that to life. And I didn't

557
00:29:55.000 --> 00:29:57.200
even say anything to AI like this is a sad

558
00:29:57.240 --> 00:29:59.279
squash or this is you know, AI just did. I

559
00:29:59.359 --> 00:30:01.319
just put it in there and it interpreted it, which

560
00:30:01.359 --> 00:30:02.319
is really fascinating.

561
00:30:03.559 --> 00:30:09.440
Wow, yeah that is I think that's on your channel too, right, yeah, okay.

562
00:30:09.920 --> 00:30:12.240
And the other thing about this picture is I accidentally

563
00:30:12.279 --> 00:30:15.799
clicked on the picture and it was like redo location

564
00:30:16.440 --> 00:30:18.559
or something like that, and then I actually found data

565
00:30:18.599 --> 00:30:21.359
on the picture that said it was from twenty sixteen

566
00:30:21.640 --> 00:30:25.000
and I think subliminity organ and I found the location

567
00:30:25.559 --> 00:30:27.599
and when I did a Google Earth location of that,

568
00:30:27.839 --> 00:30:31.279
it was all burnt down. So it really just like

569
00:30:31.359 --> 00:30:34.160
lined up too that it was an picture from that time.

570
00:30:34.200 --> 00:30:37.440
And there was also a wildfire story on the news

571
00:30:37.440 --> 00:30:39.119
from that area too at that time.

572
00:30:39.920 --> 00:30:44.519
Which is huge. And it's because that's something I was

573
00:30:44.559 --> 00:30:48.240
going to bring up because I was looking through them

574
00:30:48.279 --> 00:30:50.440
as well, and I was like, oh, yeah, the metadata

575
00:30:50.480 --> 00:30:53.000
is all here on these two pictures, which is incredible.

576
00:30:53.279 --> 00:30:56.200
It's actually still in the format that it would be

577
00:30:56.720 --> 00:31:01.079
if it was taken on I believe h E. I

578
00:31:01.200 --> 00:31:05.319
see is more like the Apple one iPhones, and those

579
00:31:05.440 --> 00:31:09.799
two original photos are in there. The cool thing is

580
00:31:09.799 --> 00:31:15.160
that so you got the GPS coordinates and so I

581
00:31:15.200 --> 00:31:18.440
looked it up as well, and the area that it

582
00:31:18.519 --> 00:31:24.680
comes up is just east of the John Day area,

583
00:31:25.200 --> 00:31:29.240
which I mean fits because i've personally, I've had three

584
00:31:30.319 --> 00:31:37.200
reports from that area, and usually it's people that are

585
00:31:37.440 --> 00:31:42.720
freaked out big time by something and end up running away,

586
00:31:42.799 --> 00:31:45.920
or they get like an infrasound activity, and it's just

587
00:31:45.920 --> 00:31:48.440
some really really weird stuff that happens in the John

588
00:31:48.519 --> 00:31:52.920
Day area. But so you're saying that this this actual

589
00:31:53.640 --> 00:31:57.440
the guy, you were able to interview the guy about

590
00:31:57.480 --> 00:32:00.359
what was happening when he took this photo, or is

591
00:32:00.440 --> 00:32:02.160
just the same guy, different story.

592
00:32:03.119 --> 00:32:05.400
So it's so it's a guy that's been on my

593
00:32:05.480 --> 00:32:10.000
podcasts like friend, Oh it's his friend or his friend's friends.

594
00:32:10.039 --> 00:32:12.519
So it's almost like a hearsay photo that I got

595
00:32:12.519 --> 00:32:15.839
from them. But these are all hunter guys that have

596
00:32:15.920 --> 00:32:20.680
been hunting throughout Oregon forever. And you know, I'm really

597
00:32:20.720 --> 00:32:23.720
good at reading like body language and stuff. He seemed

598
00:32:23.720 --> 00:32:27.480
really like legit about it and really excited. And I mean,

599
00:32:27.680 --> 00:32:30.039
I know photoshop, and there's no way in AI and

600
00:32:30.079 --> 00:32:31.839
all that that that could have been an AI or

601
00:32:31.880 --> 00:32:35.119
Photoshop picture, especially two really good ones like that, and

602
00:32:35.200 --> 00:32:38.079
especially with the metadata coming from twenty sixteen.

603
00:32:38.799 --> 00:32:43.000
Yeah, absolutely, I mean there's nothing. I see so many

604
00:32:43.039 --> 00:32:47.200
photos that come into my email, there's nothing that jumps

605
00:32:47.240 --> 00:32:52.160
out that is saying, oh, these are obvious fakes. And

606
00:32:52.279 --> 00:32:54.440
I mean it's just cool. Like the one where it

607
00:32:54.519 --> 00:32:57.960
feels like it's kind of you know, bent over, probably

608
00:32:58.000 --> 00:33:02.160
getting ashes or something. I mean, the head shape is right,

609
00:33:02.960 --> 00:33:05.000
it looks like there's not really a neck to it,

610
00:33:06.759 --> 00:33:12.240
the what you would say like it just it feels

611
00:33:12.240 --> 00:33:15.759
like it's kind of leaning forward, although it's probably trying

612
00:33:15.799 --> 00:33:19.640
to get the ashes. And man, it is just there's

613
00:33:19.720 --> 00:33:22.200
some of the coolest photos that I've ever seen. So

614
00:33:22.359 --> 00:33:29.559
people really need to check out the AI movement that

615
00:33:29.599 --> 00:33:33.160
you were able to make it too over on your channel.

616
00:33:33.160 --> 00:33:34.359
It's pretty cool stuff.

617
00:33:35.440 --> 00:33:37.960
Yeah, thank you. I feel like that one was a

618
00:33:38.039 --> 00:33:42.759
pretty good shot there actually, And then I did some

619
00:33:42.799 --> 00:33:45.160
other AI where I brought Patty to life, and with

620
00:33:45.200 --> 00:33:47.920
that one, I also didn't say anything about it being like,

621
00:33:48.599 --> 00:33:50.559
you know, a bigfoot or anything. I just put it

622
00:33:50.599 --> 00:33:52.359
in there, and then what AI did with it was

623
00:33:52.400 --> 00:33:55.400
pretty amazing. And then when I created the video, as

624
00:33:55.400 --> 00:33:57.519
I've got further in, I said, you know, give Patty

625
00:33:57.519 --> 00:33:59.759
a baby, or make Patty like fight the cougar. But

626
00:33:59.759 --> 00:34:02.799
the few clips. They're about like five seconds each. That

627
00:34:02.839 --> 00:34:06.039
was all AI's interpretation of like what it was in

628
00:34:06.079 --> 00:34:08.719
the picture. So you just submit it into grock and

629
00:34:08.760 --> 00:34:12.239
then it like just turns it into something, but it interprets.

630
00:34:12.519 --> 00:34:15.400
So that was kind of fascinating. And I've been doing

631
00:34:15.440 --> 00:34:17.519
it for other shots for other people and sending it

632
00:34:17.519 --> 00:34:20.599
to him, like trail camshots. And then Hugh. I think

633
00:34:20.639 --> 00:34:23.039
you've had Hugh on your show before up in Washington.

634
00:34:23.079 --> 00:34:23.639
He's got a lot.

635
00:34:23.800 --> 00:34:24.639
Yeah.

636
00:34:24.920 --> 00:34:28.599
Yeah, So I've cleaned up two things for him, and uh,

637
00:34:28.760 --> 00:34:30.440
I don't want to post it yet because I need

638
00:34:30.480 --> 00:34:32.639
to chat with him first, but I've cleaned up a

639
00:34:32.639 --> 00:34:35.760
couple photos for him and he's pretty excited about what

640
00:34:35.840 --> 00:34:38.800
I did there and actually turn him into video too,

641
00:34:39.679 --> 00:34:41.480
So I don't know if you remember the one where

642
00:34:41.480 --> 00:34:43.440
he's standing there and he's it's kind of shaking a

643
00:34:43.440 --> 00:34:43.760
little bit.

644
00:34:43.880 --> 00:34:47.000
Yeah, that's exactly what I was thinking of, as it's

645
00:34:47.079 --> 00:34:49.159
got to be the video where he's on top of

646
00:34:49.199 --> 00:34:50.840
the mountain and it's shaky. Right.

647
00:34:51.519 --> 00:34:53.480
There's two. There's the on top of the mountain one

648
00:34:53.480 --> 00:34:56.000
and there's one where he's scoping from like a cross

649
00:34:56.000 --> 00:34:57.880
and there's like kind of like logs and it looks

650
00:34:57.920 --> 00:35:00.400
like something, and I immediately it's like I see face

651
00:35:00.480 --> 00:35:02.440
on that. So I cleaned it up, cleaned it up,

652
00:35:02.440 --> 00:35:04.800
cleaned it up, and it almost looks to me almost

653
00:35:04.800 --> 00:35:07.719
like a longer face Bigfoot, with like more of a

654
00:35:07.760 --> 00:35:11.559
cinnamon color hair. And my theory too is like, maybe

655
00:35:11.639 --> 00:35:14.199
have some that have rounder faces like Brad Pitt, longer

656
00:35:14.239 --> 00:35:17.320
faces like Nicholas Cage. Maybe some are getting mistaken as

657
00:35:17.320 --> 00:35:19.960
dog Man. I don't know, but I'm open to kind

658
00:35:19.960 --> 00:35:22.039
of understanding these different face shapes with them.

659
00:35:24.360 --> 00:35:27.719
Nifoot would be cool, Yeah, I think so that'd be

660
00:35:27.760 --> 00:35:33.599
pretty soft, that'd be rocking a lot of emotion. Yes,

661
00:35:33.719 --> 00:35:41.119
maybe not. Do you ever get stuff from it? Does

662
00:35:41.119 --> 00:35:44.400
it all seem to be pretty much from from Klacamus?

663
00:35:44.440 --> 00:35:46.920
Or do you ever get stuff from like Detroit in

664
00:35:46.960 --> 00:35:48.519
a little further south.

665
00:35:50.360 --> 00:35:51.159
Blue Mountains?

666
00:35:51.920 --> 00:35:52.880
Okay, yep?

667
00:35:53.559 --> 00:35:56.559
And uh yeah. So that was one older hunter, I

668
00:35:56.559 --> 00:35:58.519
want to say, in his eighties. He said he's seen

669
00:35:59.079 --> 00:36:01.760
one over there back it was either the nineteen sixties

670
00:36:01.840 --> 00:36:04.559
or nineteen seventies, And I asked them, well, you know,

671
00:36:04.559 --> 00:36:07.159
what did it look like? He goes, oh, well, it

672
00:36:07.280 --> 00:36:10.039
was just they're huge and they're multi colored gray like

673
00:36:10.079 --> 00:36:13.599
a wolf. And he said, my son in law didn't

674
00:36:13.599 --> 00:36:15.280
believe me that I was seeing him down there. But

675
00:36:15.360 --> 00:36:18.719
since I'm older now, my daughter told me that he

676
00:36:18.760 --> 00:36:22.159
has to go hunting with me. So we went somewhat recently,

677
00:36:22.199 --> 00:36:23.679
I think, he said, and they were in their RV

678
00:36:24.599 --> 00:36:26.519
and the son in law believes him now because one

679
00:36:26.639 --> 00:36:29.000
came up and was shaking rv and messing with them.

680
00:36:29.280 --> 00:36:32.599
And I just went over to the Bigfoot Research Center

681
00:36:32.639 --> 00:36:34.360
and they have a cool map and there with all

682
00:36:34.400 --> 00:36:36.519
the pins on there, and Blue Mountains were a really

683
00:36:36.559 --> 00:36:37.159
hot spot.

684
00:36:38.159 --> 00:36:43.719
So yeah, absolutely, the Blue Mountains are extremely active area,

685
00:36:44.000 --> 00:36:51.559
one hundred percent. When you're taking encounters, does stuff come

686
00:36:51.639 --> 00:36:56.880
up where it's not Bigfoot? But maybe, well, I say,

687
00:36:57.360 --> 00:37:00.599
do you ever get any things like dog Man from

688
00:37:00.639 --> 00:37:02.519
the same area.

689
00:37:02.920 --> 00:37:06.159
I feel like there is one dog man report. I'm

690
00:37:06.159 --> 00:37:08.199
trying to remember which story that was, but there was

691
00:37:08.239 --> 00:37:12.519
another one where it was actually the first interview I did,

692
00:37:12.559 --> 00:37:14.360
and I was just sort of kind of joking around

693
00:37:14.400 --> 00:37:16.559
like maybe I'll do a Bigfoot podcast. And I had

694
00:37:16.920 --> 00:37:18.920
kind of a younger kid that day, and I said, hey,

695
00:37:19.000 --> 00:37:20.320
you know, do you want to do you have any

696
00:37:20.320 --> 00:37:23.320
Bigfoot stories? And he's like, actually, and I thought this

697
00:37:23.400 --> 00:37:25.039
kid was like making it up at first. This story

698
00:37:25.079 --> 00:37:27.760
gets kind of wild. He goes, actually, my uncle saw

699
00:37:27.800 --> 00:37:29.960
one on his trail cam. It was a baby bigfoot,

700
00:37:30.039 --> 00:37:32.639
you know. And I was like, but really, you know.

701
00:37:32.800 --> 00:37:35.639
He goes yeah. So he's actually my first interview on there.

702
00:37:35.840 --> 00:37:38.880
Really cool, really cool kid and everything. And so later,

703
00:37:39.119 --> 00:37:41.000
I don't know, it was a couple months later. I

704
00:37:41.039 --> 00:37:43.800
was cutting this guy's hair and I was talking about

705
00:37:43.800 --> 00:37:45.280
bigfoot and he goes, yeah, I actually caught one on

706
00:37:45.280 --> 00:37:47.039
my trail cam. And I'm like, wait a minute, is

707
00:37:47.079 --> 00:37:49.360
this your nephew, and he goes yeah, and I go

708
00:37:49.880 --> 00:37:52.239
no way. So he's looking and looking looking through his

709
00:37:52.239 --> 00:37:54.039
phone and he showed it to me, and I seen

710
00:37:54.079 --> 00:37:57.239
it and I begged him for that picture and he's like, yeah,

711
00:37:57.320 --> 00:37:58.960
i'll give it to you. Never got the picture, but

712
00:37:59.000 --> 00:38:01.639
I saw it, and the best way I can describe

713
00:38:01.639 --> 00:38:04.880
it is it kind of looked like a little very

714
00:38:04.960 --> 00:38:09.079
black mickey mouse running through like a woodpile. And he

715
00:38:09.079 --> 00:38:10.960
said he took it up to the North American Bigfoot

716
00:38:11.000 --> 00:38:12.679
Center and two out of three people there said, yeah,

717
00:38:12.719 --> 00:38:15.559
you caught a baby bigfoot. And when you look up

718
00:38:15.599 --> 00:38:18.320
like a baby gorilla. The shape and the darkness of

719
00:38:18.360 --> 00:38:21.480
a baby gorilla was like really spot on, And I

720
00:38:21.519 --> 00:38:24.000
asked him if he had had any other pictures and

721
00:38:24.000 --> 00:38:26.519
he said, yeah, he caught kind of I forget how

722
00:38:26.559 --> 00:38:28.920
he described it, but it was sort of like a

723
00:38:29.000 --> 00:38:33.559
dog man something something crawling on fos type of deal.

724
00:38:34.920 --> 00:38:37.000
So yeah, I was just talking to my brother about

725
00:38:37.000 --> 00:38:39.320
that last night because he's a big bigfoot believer, but

726
00:38:39.360 --> 00:38:41.760
he's he hadn't even heard of dog man before. There's

727
00:38:41.760 --> 00:38:43.719
a lot of people who have not heard of dog Man.

728
00:38:44.480 --> 00:38:48.360
So I'm really starting to kind of see if I

729
00:38:48.400 --> 00:38:49.800
can collect anything in that area.

730
00:38:50.519 --> 00:38:55.000
Mm hmm. Right, it's a wild thing. You know. That

731
00:38:55.079 --> 00:38:58.559
stuff does come up on the show here too. If

732
00:39:00.079 --> 00:39:04.880
if it's like I never go towards it by itself,

733
00:39:04.920 --> 00:39:06.719
but like if the person's like, oh yeah, I saw

734
00:39:06.719 --> 00:39:08.480
a dog man two, like okay, let's talk about it,

735
00:39:08.519 --> 00:39:11.239
you know, and if it comes up organically. But I

736
00:39:11.239 --> 00:39:15.559
mean I was talking to one dude and about the

737
00:39:15.559 --> 00:39:19.400
Detroit area, and it's not just like a ton of

738
00:39:19.400 --> 00:39:22.800
bigfoot they have there. There's also a lot of dog

739
00:39:22.880 --> 00:39:27.119
man sightings as well in Detroit. Yeah, kind of north

740
00:39:27.119 --> 00:39:30.639
of Detroit out on one of the roads, not the

741
00:39:30.960 --> 00:39:34.280
not the Oregon Big Highway road that goes to the east,

742
00:39:34.280 --> 00:39:39.239
but like just a random for service road that's north

743
00:39:39.280 --> 00:39:42.679
of Detroit, and man, when I drove by, drove through

744
00:39:42.719 --> 00:39:47.920
that area, that area is nuts. It's just it's there's

745
00:39:48.000 --> 00:39:52.360
a very intense presence. It's hard to explain when you

746
00:39:52.440 --> 00:39:56.599
drive through Detroit, and I'll tell you what, people really

747
00:39:56.599 --> 00:39:58.719
don't want to talk about bigfoot there. Like I tried

748
00:39:58.760 --> 00:40:01.320
talking to some locals. They were not having it. They

749
00:40:01.320 --> 00:40:05.280
were like, nope, really, oh yeah, it was it was

750
00:40:05.320 --> 00:40:09.800
really intense. Uh yeah. Most places I would talk to

751
00:40:09.840 --> 00:40:12.119
people out there try to they'd be like, oh yeah, totally,

752
00:40:12.159 --> 00:40:14.960
let's let's talk about that was like the one place

753
00:40:15.039 --> 00:40:19.440
where they were just not on board. So that makes

754
00:40:19.480 --> 00:40:22.440
me realize that any interviews I get from the Detroit

755
00:40:22.480 --> 00:40:26.800
area are it's pretty it's a pretty lucky deal. Well

756
00:40:26.960 --> 00:40:27.519
for sure.

757
00:40:28.840 --> 00:40:31.280
Yeah, I've been over there. I'm trying to think about

758
00:40:31.280 --> 00:40:33.519
Opal Creek and hiked up in there, and it definitely

759
00:40:34.000 --> 00:40:36.159
feels pretty wild up there. And I've experienced that with

760
00:40:36.199 --> 00:40:38.639
people too that were all of a sudden, it's just

761
00:40:38.679 --> 00:40:40.679
there's like a shift and energy when you kind of

762
00:40:40.679 --> 00:40:43.360
bring it up and they're like, oh, no, we don't know.

763
00:40:44.280 --> 00:40:47.639
It's it's like you're you know, you're asking them like, hey,

764
00:40:47.679 --> 00:40:50.119
how was that when you went to war? And they

765
00:40:50.199 --> 00:40:54.199
just get all of a sudden shut down, and you know,

766
00:40:54.239 --> 00:40:57.480
you just see it. And I see a difference between

767
00:40:57.480 --> 00:40:59.679
that and between like the ones that just don't believe it,

768
00:40:59.800 --> 00:41:03.000
or you know, I want to respect people's religious beliefs.

769
00:41:03.000 --> 00:41:05.039
There's some people have told me they just don't even

770
00:41:05.119 --> 00:41:07.599
want to entertain it because they like to go out

771
00:41:07.639 --> 00:41:09.760
hunting in the woods and they don't want it to

772
00:41:09.800 --> 00:41:12.960
be ruined for them. That's someone Guy's exact words for me,

773
00:41:13.639 --> 00:41:15.400
and I said, that was interesting. So I've kind of

774
00:41:15.480 --> 00:41:20.920
learned how to navigate around different characters and kind of

775
00:41:20.960 --> 00:41:24.800
what they're comfortable with. But I've definitely felt that, you

776
00:41:24.840 --> 00:41:27.760
know that stranger things vibe again in some towns where

777
00:41:28.679 --> 00:41:31.320
you know that that's kind of gone on. Like there's

778
00:41:31.360 --> 00:41:34.360
this old barber and esticata called Millie Kiggins. I don't

779
00:41:34.400 --> 00:41:35.119
know if you've ever heard her.

780
00:41:35.199 --> 00:41:38.320
Oh yeah, yeah, this is in the it's actually in

781
00:41:38.559 --> 00:41:42.400
the Oregon Big for Highway book by Joe Beelart. There's

782
00:41:42.400 --> 00:41:45.719
a big section about this this person. Yeah.

783
00:41:45.880 --> 00:41:48.400
Yeah, so Ray Fender, he was talking to me about her,

784
00:41:48.480 --> 00:41:51.280
the one that saw the Bigfoot in Esticado when he

785
00:41:51.320 --> 00:41:52.920
was a young child. I think that was one of

786
00:41:52.920 --> 00:41:56.880
your favorite stories. I talked to him first, and he

787
00:41:56.920 --> 00:41:58.920
was telling me about Millie Kiggins. And when I was

788
00:41:58.960 --> 00:42:01.280
reading it in the work in Bigfoot Highway, it was

789
00:42:01.280 --> 00:42:04.199
saying that they had to kind of like shut people

790
00:42:04.320 --> 00:42:07.760
out of that town because she brought so much activity

791
00:42:07.760 --> 00:42:10.239
there with it. And then she started to get people

792
00:42:10.360 --> 00:42:12.400
saying we're going to kill this thing this and that.

793
00:42:12.519 --> 00:42:14.400
She's like, no, no, no, you're turning, you know. And

794
00:42:14.440 --> 00:42:16.079
it's just like one of these movies that you watch

795
00:42:16.079 --> 00:42:18.159
where she finds this cool thing and then people have

796
00:42:18.239 --> 00:42:20.480
to ruin it and oh kill it, you know. And

797
00:42:20.840 --> 00:42:22.960
I've actually had people say the same thing to me.

798
00:42:23.039 --> 00:42:24.960
I've had, you know, hunters go if I see one,

799
00:42:25.000 --> 00:42:26.679
I'll take it out and I and I kind of

800
00:42:26.719 --> 00:42:29.960
get you know, defensive with them and say it looks

801
00:42:30.000 --> 00:42:33.119
like a person. Though the every encounter that people had,

802
00:42:33.239 --> 00:42:34.840
every single one I've heard, is said it has a

803
00:42:34.880 --> 00:42:36.639
face a person. You really think you could like do

804
00:42:36.719 --> 00:42:39.280
that to a person, Well, you know, I go, no,

805
00:42:39.320 --> 00:42:42.360
you don't want to do that. And I also they're

806
00:42:42.639 --> 00:42:45.400
protected by the government. You know. I've had hunters tell

807
00:42:45.400 --> 00:42:48.039
me that they go low key. If you do something

808
00:42:48.039 --> 00:42:50.400
to them, they're gonna, yeah, they're going to show up

809
00:42:50.440 --> 00:42:52.719
your house. So don't do that. I'm warning you. If

810
00:42:52.719 --> 00:42:56.239
you do see one, you better, you know, to prove

811
00:42:56.280 --> 00:42:57.079
that it was defense.

812
00:42:58.079 --> 00:43:01.000
So leave them alone. Yeah, yeah, I mean there are

813
00:43:01.039 --> 00:43:03.760
some areas in the US where it is like written down,

814
00:43:03.960 --> 00:43:08.679
like if you do this, like Skiminia County, Washington is one, right,

815
00:43:08.800 --> 00:43:11.840
like it's it's a fine, and I think I think

816
00:43:11.920 --> 00:43:15.840
worse than a fine. Actually, yeah, man, if I had

817
00:43:15.880 --> 00:43:20.000
a nickel for that, the people that I've had to

818
00:43:20.239 --> 00:43:22.719
convince not to do that too, I'd have a few

819
00:43:22.800 --> 00:43:27.039
nickels for sure. It's just the thing where well that

820
00:43:27.440 --> 00:43:30.599
what you said. And then also on top of it,

821
00:43:30.599 --> 00:43:33.920
it's like, you try to do this, you're probably not

822
00:43:34.039 --> 00:43:36.440
walking away. I mean, the chances of you walking away

823
00:43:36.480 --> 00:43:40.760
from this are so so slim. So it's just not

824
00:43:41.199 --> 00:43:46.079
a good idea around around it all. Just don't do it,

825
00:43:46.360 --> 00:43:50.199
you know, for for the creature, for yourself, you know,

826
00:43:50.519 --> 00:43:51.719
just walk away.

827
00:43:52.159 --> 00:43:53.559
Well yeah, and it kind of goes back to the

828
00:43:53.599 --> 00:43:56.400
people that are missing, you know, up in the Malala Forest,

829
00:43:56.440 --> 00:43:58.480
there's one hundred missing right now in ast Takaida. They've

830
00:43:58.519 --> 00:44:01.039
had the best SAAR search and rest teams in Oregon

831
00:44:01.159 --> 00:44:04.440
looking for this guy right now, and supposedly last week

832
00:44:04.480 --> 00:44:06.639
he caught a deer and I think it was on

833
00:44:06.719 --> 00:44:11.599
his Gamma like satellite radio. According to his Facebook posts

834
00:44:11.639 --> 00:44:13.679
I saw he said, Hey, I got the deer. I'm

835
00:44:13.719 --> 00:44:16.760
coming home early. And then there's so much hearsay with

836
00:44:16.800 --> 00:44:19.079
this story, so I'm trying to keep it to the

837
00:44:19.119 --> 00:44:22.840
most facts that I've seen. They thought they heard three

838
00:44:23.159 --> 00:44:26.039
soos shots at night, so they've been out there every

839
00:44:26.079 --> 00:44:30.800
day with thermal drones, drones ATBs. That rock is really unstable.

840
00:44:30.920 --> 00:44:32.719
It looks like they're rock climbing with cables just to

841
00:44:32.760 --> 00:44:34.840
get down. In their search. Theyve had the National Guard

842
00:44:34.880 --> 00:44:36.880
helicopters and they're looking for this guy. There is no

843
00:44:36.960 --> 00:44:39.280
trace of him or the deer at all. It's just

844
00:44:39.440 --> 00:44:42.519
he's gone. And I'm not saying it's Bigfoot or anything,

845
00:44:42.559 --> 00:44:45.159
but it is an area. I have had multiple sidings

846
00:44:45.239 --> 00:44:47.599
up there, and I do have the other report of

847
00:44:47.679 --> 00:44:50.199
Bigfoot trying to take a deer from another guy. So

848
00:44:50.440 --> 00:44:53.519
I wouldn't rule it out. That and a week before that,

849
00:44:53.639 --> 00:44:55.599
I had another hunter tell me he went up there

850
00:44:55.599 --> 00:44:58.519
at six am and had a giant mountain lion just

851
00:44:58.639 --> 00:45:01.079
jump down on the cliff down. So there is a

852
00:45:01.119 --> 00:45:03.199
note up in Esticada saying watch out, there's a big

853
00:45:03.239 --> 00:45:06.159
cat up here. But I don't. I don't know. I

854
00:45:06.159 --> 00:45:08.840
think a cat if you know, So, I don't know.

855
00:45:08.840 --> 00:45:10.840
I hope they find the guy, hopefully he's alive. But

856
00:45:10.880 --> 00:45:14.559
I'm just saying there's there's mysterious stuff going on. There's

857
00:45:14.559 --> 00:45:17.639
another guy, it was up in Colton that's been missing.

858
00:45:19.159 --> 00:45:21.880
I'm trying to remember his name, but he's yeah, up

859
00:45:21.880 --> 00:45:24.079
in the Colton Malaala forest. He was up there looking

860
00:45:24.119 --> 00:45:28.199
for deer sheds and they still haven't found him, experienced woodsman,

861
00:45:28.320 --> 00:45:30.519
and they just found his truck up there. And that

862
00:45:30.639 --> 00:45:33.079
was a couple of years ago. And I found out

863
00:45:33.119 --> 00:45:37.880
about that because one of the local people told me, Yeah,

864
00:45:38.079 --> 00:45:39.920
like I was gonna call missing for one one and

865
00:45:40.039 --> 00:45:44.000
get a hold of David Politis, but uh, I don't.

866
00:45:44.039 --> 00:45:46.039
I don't think the guy's sister ended up doing that,

867
00:45:46.159 --> 00:45:48.199
but still never found that person.

868
00:45:50.079 --> 00:45:52.760
Yeah, the first one you mentioned, well, you you sent

869
00:45:52.840 --> 00:45:56.480
it actually to me pretty pretty quick after it it

870
00:45:56.639 --> 00:46:00.159
was out there, and then I've been, I've been and

871
00:46:01.280 --> 00:46:04.239
keeping tabs on it because yeah, as you said, I mean,

872
00:46:04.280 --> 00:46:06.480
it's an area where we both get a lot of

873
00:46:06.559 --> 00:46:12.039
reports from and I think I even read I've read

874
00:46:12.039 --> 00:46:14.320
a few interesting things. I read that it's at the

875
00:46:14.360 --> 00:46:19.400
point where they're not able to continual or do a

876
00:46:19.440 --> 00:46:24.000
continual active search. I believe like they you know, eventually

877
00:46:24.079 --> 00:46:25.519
gets to the point where they have to pull back

878
00:46:25.559 --> 00:46:28.920
a little bit. Yeah, which is really sad. I hope

879
00:46:28.920 --> 00:46:32.400
they find a guy. There's so many cases like that

880
00:46:32.400 --> 00:46:35.639
that happen, but when you hear them happen in certain

881
00:46:35.679 --> 00:46:39.760
areas of places like Oregon or Washington, it really does

882
00:46:39.960 --> 00:46:42.719
make you think like, okay, what is the story here?

883
00:46:43.719 --> 00:46:48.119
Well, yeah, and then it's tricky with trying to give support,

884
00:46:48.320 --> 00:46:51.039
like saying, hey, this is evidence that I have of

885
00:46:51.079 --> 00:46:53.440
the area. It might help you in your investigation, and

886
00:46:53.480 --> 00:46:55.800
not be laughed at. Because there is some comments where

887
00:46:55.840 --> 00:46:57.480
I put out there to kind of help support it,

888
00:46:57.719 --> 00:46:59.760
and of course, you know, people weren't taking it, so

889
00:47:00.960 --> 00:47:03.400
I removed them. But there was one group that I'm

890
00:47:03.440 --> 00:47:05.920
part of. It's kind of like a police group on

891
00:47:05.960 --> 00:47:09.000
Facebook and they don't put up with any kind of

892
00:47:09.199 --> 00:47:11.639
you know, online bullying there. So I left my comment

893
00:47:11.679 --> 00:47:13.280
up there just saying, hey, I do have a podcast.

894
00:47:13.320 --> 00:47:15.199
I just let you guys know that there is activity

895
00:47:15.280 --> 00:47:17.400
up there, just to give them a heads up, just

896
00:47:17.440 --> 00:47:21.119
to keep that in mind at least. And I've noticed

897
00:47:21.119 --> 00:47:23.760
a lot of other people on this specific thing going

898
00:47:23.760 --> 00:47:25.960
on right now this week have been commenting the same thing,

899
00:47:26.000 --> 00:47:28.760
saying Bigfoot took him, sasquatch took him. And I want

900
00:47:28.760 --> 00:47:31.440
to be really respectful and thoughtful to the family, but

901
00:47:31.519 --> 00:47:35.639
I also, you know, want to support any evidence that

902
00:47:35.679 --> 00:47:37.840
I have collected in the area too and just say

903
00:47:37.920 --> 00:47:40.400
just you guys know there are those up there too,

904
00:47:40.559 --> 00:47:44.400
but we're kind of on the fence of everyone, you know,

905
00:47:44.480 --> 00:47:47.320
not really being aware that they're even they exist. And

906
00:47:47.519 --> 00:47:49.840
this kind of falls back into these conversations I have

907
00:47:49.920 --> 00:47:52.400
with people daily, and they kind of asked me these

908
00:47:52.400 --> 00:47:54.519
same questions again, like why don't we have pictures, why

909
00:47:54.559 --> 00:47:55.760
don't we have this, why don't we have that? And

910
00:47:55.760 --> 00:47:58.800
when I start answering all these questions, they kind of

911
00:47:58.800 --> 00:48:01.320
stop and go wow, because they realize I've done my

912
00:48:01.360 --> 00:48:03.400
research and I haven't answered to a lot of those,

913
00:48:03.719 --> 00:48:06.239
you know, really basic questions that everyone usually asks.

914
00:48:06.679 --> 00:48:10.360
There's other things I've heard about other recent missing person

915
00:48:10.480 --> 00:48:14.159
cases in the Pacific Northwest where Yeah, there are certain

916
00:48:14.480 --> 00:48:18.840
search and rescue individuals that I think they know that, yeah,

917
00:48:19.199 --> 00:48:21.599
there's big foot activity in these areas, and it's just

918
00:48:22.280 --> 00:48:24.360
it's just interesting. It's hard to talk to those people

919
00:48:24.400 --> 00:48:26.679
because usually they don't want to come on record. It's

920
00:48:26.760 --> 00:48:30.639
totally understandable, but yeah.

921
00:48:30.480 --> 00:48:32.800
And I mean there's definitely that going on right now

922
00:48:32.800 --> 00:48:34.880
where they had the first five days where it was

923
00:48:34.920 --> 00:48:37.679
only the Clackamas County Sheriffs and then the Search and

924
00:48:37.719 --> 00:48:41.280
Rescue and they're and then the National Guard, and it

925
00:48:41.360 --> 00:48:46.360
was I was reading the locals comments on the Skido

926
00:48:46.400 --> 00:48:49.599
Locals page and they were talking about how it was

927
00:48:49.679 --> 00:48:51.679
very hush hush and they weren't being giving very much

928
00:48:51.679 --> 00:48:54.239
information and all the local hunters wanted to go in

929
00:48:54.280 --> 00:48:56.440
there and help, and none of them are allowed to

930
00:48:56.480 --> 00:48:58.480
go in and a lot of people were really upset

931
00:48:58.480 --> 00:49:00.639
about it. Then a lot of people are saying, well,

932
00:49:00.679 --> 00:49:04.079
it's because they don't want them to have another person

933
00:49:04.119 --> 00:49:05.760
they have to go look for, and all this, you know,

934
00:49:05.800 --> 00:49:08.480
like the generary things you would tell the public. But then,

935
00:49:08.480 --> 00:49:10.599
of course I'm kind of wondering, you know, are they

936
00:49:10.639 --> 00:49:13.239
possibly sitting on any other information like what you're saying

937
00:49:13.519 --> 00:49:17.400
that that would be another reason why they wouldn't let

938
00:49:17.440 --> 00:49:19.360
people in there, like they want to go look first.

939
00:49:20.000 --> 00:49:20.400
I don't know.

940
00:49:20.599 --> 00:49:23.239
Yeah, absolutely, I mean to me, it comes down to

941
00:49:23.280 --> 00:49:26.920
three options. It's either, as you said, we don't want

942
00:49:26.920 --> 00:49:29.800
to go looking for another person, or two, you're going

943
00:49:29.840 --> 00:49:32.480
to mess up evidence out there if we have more people,

944
00:49:33.239 --> 00:49:37.599
or three we're also trying to do information damage control

945
00:49:37.679 --> 00:49:41.960
at the same time that we are trying to look

946
00:49:42.000 --> 00:49:46.559
for someone, which you know, I think those are That's

947
00:49:46.599 --> 00:49:51.239
three options for sure, But yeah, yeah, who knows what

948
00:49:51.239 --> 00:49:53.760
what we'll find out eventually in the future. I think

949
00:49:53.760 --> 00:49:58.159
it all it takes is one person to share the

950
00:49:58.239 --> 00:50:01.039
right thing, or to share like the game cam photo

951
00:50:01.079 --> 00:50:05.840
that you saw of the baby Bigfoot, which is incredible. Yeah,

952
00:50:05.880 --> 00:50:09.639
my goodness, I can't imagine seeing that. But I have

953
00:50:09.800 --> 00:50:13.039
a few a few areas I'm just curious if you've

954
00:50:13.079 --> 00:50:20.119
heard anything about them, And one is have you heard

955
00:50:20.119 --> 00:50:24.519
anything about the Hillock Burn Road area or Goat Mountain?

956
00:50:25.400 --> 00:50:30.239
Yes, definitely, Yeah, those those come up a lot there's

957
00:50:30.280 --> 00:50:33.559
actually a lot of story. Sometimes when I'm super busy working,

958
00:50:34.239 --> 00:50:36.440
sometimes I'll do, you know, twelve to fifteen haircuts a day.

959
00:50:36.480 --> 00:50:39.079
I don't have time to sit down and write down

960
00:50:39.079 --> 00:50:41.480
notes for everything. And there was a while there already

961
00:50:41.480 --> 00:50:43.679
got them, but I know that those ones came up,

962
00:50:43.719 --> 00:50:46.880
not just the people that I got my interviews and notes,

963
00:50:46.920 --> 00:50:49.920
but there is even more outside of that where some

964
00:50:50.000 --> 00:50:52.960
people said, oh yeah, back, I think twenty thirty years ago,

965
00:50:53.039 --> 00:50:58.079
I found giant prints. I went up into Goat Mountain.

966
00:50:58.199 --> 00:51:00.280
The guy told me, and we came down and he

967
00:51:00.320 --> 00:51:03.400
found some fresh, really giant prints up on Goat Mountain.

968
00:51:04.119 --> 00:51:08.480
There's been talk of military sites up on Goat Mountain,

969
00:51:08.639 --> 00:51:13.159
secret military sites, stuff going on up there. Oh yeah,

970
00:51:13.159 --> 00:51:16.880
all the locals skid area, they talk about it, some

971
00:51:16.920 --> 00:51:18.440
get laughed about it. But a lot of the old

972
00:51:18.480 --> 00:51:22.199
school people have kind of told me some stuff about

973
00:51:22.199 --> 00:51:28.159
that area. So yeah, yeah, there's some black vanned activity

974
00:51:28.239 --> 00:51:31.199
up there type stuff. Supposedly, this is what I heard.

975
00:51:31.239 --> 00:51:37.559
I haven't allegedly, so yeah. I mean, even where I'm

976
00:51:37.559 --> 00:51:39.880
sitting right now, I can actually see a couple towers,

977
00:51:39.960 --> 00:51:41.719
and I don't think it's the Goat Mountain but I

978
00:51:41.719 --> 00:51:44.079
can see, you know, so you know, sometimes I'll even

979
00:51:44.159 --> 00:51:45.599
kind of look out there and go to see any

980
00:51:45.679 --> 00:51:49.159
helicopters and stuff. But yeah, I mean, if you just

981
00:51:49.239 --> 00:51:51.280
don't know, you don't know. But once people start telling

982
00:51:51.280 --> 00:51:52.679
you kind of go oh in no way. But there's

983
00:51:52.679 --> 00:51:56.119
been kind of a rich history. And then Hillockburn. Yeah,

984
00:51:56.159 --> 00:51:58.800
I feel like people still go hunting up there to

985
00:51:58.800 --> 00:52:01.119
this day. A few of my friends go up there

986
00:52:01.159 --> 00:52:03.480
and go hunting. And I think that nineteen ninety sixth

987
00:52:03.519 --> 00:52:05.199
story might have been up there. They were up there

988
00:52:05.679 --> 00:52:07.920
at night and then they seen I think it was

989
00:52:07.920 --> 00:52:10.679
either hill Burn or Wildcat Road. Wild Cat Road's another

990
00:52:10.719 --> 00:52:15.719
really popular one which I think goes down into Eagle

991
00:52:15.840 --> 00:52:19.320
Creek area, which had a lot of activity too, and

992
00:52:19.840 --> 00:52:21.719
they seen one kind of run across the road when

993
00:52:22.039 --> 00:52:24.480
they were out there partying at night, some dark figure.

994
00:52:25.800 --> 00:52:28.760
So yeah, I feel like and then Colton. Once you

995
00:52:28.800 --> 00:52:31.840
go past that, you have Colton. There was one story

996
00:52:31.880 --> 00:52:33.679
of a man telling me he grew up in Colton

997
00:52:34.079 --> 00:52:36.039
and he used to visit this older man's house as

998
00:52:36.079 --> 00:52:38.039
a child, and the older man was telling him that

999
00:52:38.119 --> 00:52:40.199
he was actually feeding the bigfoots over there.

1000
00:52:40.599 --> 00:52:41.800
Oh my goodness.

1001
00:52:42.119 --> 00:52:47.079
Yeah, so and that story that was kind of a

1002
00:52:47.119 --> 00:52:48.920
hard story for me to get. He didn't want to

1003
00:52:49.119 --> 00:52:51.880
do a podcast or anything, but it was that was

1004
00:52:51.920 --> 00:52:53.840
one of the ones where it was he was kind

1005
00:52:53.840 --> 00:52:55.599
of shut down, but he kind of wanted to tell me.

1006
00:52:55.639 --> 00:52:57.119
But he kind of shut down, but you know, and

1007
00:52:57.159 --> 00:53:00.320
then he did want to talk about it, and I mean,

1008
00:53:00.320 --> 00:53:02.440
that's huge, you know, so.

1009
00:53:02.360 --> 00:53:07.840
It's a big deal. Yeah. I mean half the stuff

1010
00:53:07.880 --> 00:53:11.760
that I hear does not get recorded and does not

1011
00:53:12.159 --> 00:53:16.159
get put out in places like the podcast one hundred percent,

1012
00:53:16.679 --> 00:53:20.239
which I'm okay with say it is. We both know

1013
00:53:20.320 --> 00:53:24.320
how hard it is to get someone to actually go

1014
00:53:24.360 --> 00:53:24.920
on record.

1015
00:53:25.199 --> 00:53:28.880
I think the biggest PTSD situation that it was pretty intense.

1016
00:53:29.199 --> 00:53:31.519
I had one guy I do my podcast and his

1017
00:53:31.599 --> 00:53:33.960
story's still up there. It's someone with the metallic box.

1018
00:53:34.360 --> 00:53:38.400
Oh yeah, and yeah, he had a hard time with

1019
00:53:38.440 --> 00:53:42.079
it afterwards and came and found me and just kind

1020
00:53:42.079 --> 00:53:44.880
of said, hey, I think you know they're after me.

1021
00:53:45.000 --> 00:53:46.960
My phone shut down, my bank cards are shut down

1022
00:53:47.039 --> 00:53:49.239
a dad, and you know, me being the tech person,

1023
00:53:49.679 --> 00:53:51.559
I said, here, let me see because you know, of course,

1024
00:53:51.599 --> 00:53:53.360
I'm like, I don't know if this is really hot.

1025
00:53:53.400 --> 00:53:55.079
And he shows me his phone it's like locked out,

1026
00:53:56.000 --> 00:53:58.280
and he got a hold of me later and said

1027
00:53:58.280 --> 00:54:00.079
he thinks he might have just done multiple attempts. And

1028
00:54:00.360 --> 00:54:01.719
I go, and I was trying to reason with him.

1029
00:54:01.760 --> 00:54:03.800
I go, well, what how come my phone's not, you know,

1030
00:54:03.840 --> 00:54:06.039
shut down? How come my bank cards aren't shut down?

1031
00:54:06.440 --> 00:54:08.599
But I could just tell whether it was happening to

1032
00:54:08.679 --> 00:54:10.000
him or not. You know, I don't want to tellim.

1033
00:54:10.000 --> 00:54:12.039
I didn't believe him. I'm just trying to be a

1034
00:54:12.039 --> 00:54:15.719
supportive person. But I realized how much PTSD because his

1035
00:54:15.800 --> 00:54:18.719
story was really intense because it was up on Larch

1036
00:54:18.760 --> 00:54:20.800
Mountain and he went up there and he's seen this

1037
00:54:21.199 --> 00:54:23.960
giant bigfoot holding this giant metallic box. And he said,

1038
00:54:24.000 --> 00:54:26.440
these two people came out, walked out behind the big

1039
00:54:26.440 --> 00:54:28.360
foot and it was just him and his friend up there,

1040
00:54:28.920 --> 00:54:31.039
and there was no cars parked in the parking lot

1041
00:54:31.159 --> 00:54:33.719
on the only back road was like seven miles in

1042
00:54:33.760 --> 00:54:35.960
another direction, so they would have had to come that way.

1043
00:54:36.360 --> 00:54:38.360
He said they were just dressed in like hiker like,

1044
00:54:38.559 --> 00:54:43.199
you know, Columbia sports wear, like light jackets. And he

1045
00:54:43.280 --> 00:54:45.360
said something to him about it, and the story is

1046
00:54:45.400 --> 00:54:48.639
more detailed on there. But did you see that figure

1047
00:54:48.679 --> 00:54:50.039
and they go, oh, yeah, it was a lady in

1048
00:54:50.079 --> 00:54:52.440
a fur coat, and they kind of leaned in and

1049
00:54:52.519 --> 00:54:54.039
kind of gave him this impression that they were going

1050
00:54:54.079 --> 00:54:56.400
to throw him off the cliff. And this guy, I mean,

1051
00:54:56.920 --> 00:55:00.360
his intensity with the story, it was very traumatic for

1052
00:55:00.440 --> 00:55:04.400
him and he was really worried about it. And I'm

1053
00:55:04.440 --> 00:55:07.280
not sure what was going on with this metallic box

1054
00:55:07.360 --> 00:55:09.280
or these people that were trying to convince the guy

1055
00:55:09.280 --> 00:55:11.239
that it was actually just a lady in a her coat,

1056
00:55:11.400 --> 00:55:15.320
but that one is pretty interesting. And anyways, Yeah, he

1057
00:55:15.360 --> 00:55:17.400
got a hold of me later and about the phone

1058
00:55:17.440 --> 00:55:19.760
and everything, and he said he got it working. But

1059
00:55:19.800 --> 00:55:22.639
I just tried to calm him down and I told him,

1060
00:55:22.639 --> 00:55:24.880
you know, it's okay. I know, I understand there's a

1061
00:55:24.880 --> 00:55:26.719
lot of people coming out now. There's so many people

1062
00:55:26.800 --> 00:55:29.400
coming out now that you'll be okay and you'll be safe.

1063
00:55:29.559 --> 00:55:31.239
You know a lot of us have been worried about,

1064
00:55:31.760 --> 00:55:34.000
you know, asking questions or coming forward, but I think

1065
00:55:34.039 --> 00:55:35.679
there's just too many of us now that at this

1066
00:55:35.760 --> 00:55:37.800
point it kind of is what it is, so you'll

1067
00:55:37.840 --> 00:55:38.360
be fine.

1068
00:55:38.719 --> 00:55:41.440
And he was okay with it, Yeah, one hundred percent.

1069
00:55:41.480 --> 00:55:43.840
It's at the point where the analogy I use a

1070
00:55:43.840 --> 00:55:48.360
lot is like you keep putting stuff in the bathtub,

1071
00:55:48.440 --> 00:55:50.679
Eventually it's going to overflow and you can't control it.

1072
00:55:51.280 --> 00:55:55.480
And yeah, think we are like the UFO community's definitely there.

1073
00:55:55.599 --> 00:55:59.119
We are like pretty much there with all the different

1074
00:55:59.159 --> 00:56:04.440
shows and in podcasts, and then as long as people

1075
00:56:04.519 --> 00:56:09.079
can just keep on putting out. I think it's so

1076
00:56:09.159 --> 00:56:13.760
important to get the actual person recorded and telling their

1077
00:56:13.800 --> 00:56:17.119
own story. Which that's why I really like your channel

1078
00:56:17.239 --> 00:56:19.719
is because you do that. It's what I try to

1079
00:56:19.760 --> 00:56:22.119
do with mine as well. It is so important to

1080
00:56:22.159 --> 00:56:27.360
get that person actually recorded. So Larch was actually that

1081
00:56:27.480 --> 00:56:29.079
was the next place I was going to ask you about,

1082
00:56:29.079 --> 00:56:32.119
because Large and bull Run Mountain or no, bull Run

1083
00:56:32.440 --> 00:56:37.119
Well Watershed which is is close to Large Mountain has

1084
00:56:36.760 --> 00:56:39.760
some interesting stuff that's that's come up on the show.

1085
00:56:40.840 --> 00:56:42.159
Has bull Run come up on yours?

1086
00:56:42.199 --> 00:56:45.920
I think, yeah, bull Run in Sandy. I had one

1087
00:56:46.000 --> 00:56:49.280
guy he said he was going to reach out to

1088
00:56:49.320 --> 00:56:51.360
me and he just kind of ghosted me, but he

1089
00:56:51.400 --> 00:56:53.400
said he goes over to his friend's house somewhere in

1090
00:56:53.400 --> 00:56:55.400
that kind of bull Rout and Sandy. He actually showed

1091
00:56:55.440 --> 00:56:58.559
me the exact location on Google Maps. But he said

1092
00:56:58.559 --> 00:57:01.440
they hear him out there every night pretty much. And

1093
00:57:01.480 --> 00:57:04.639
then really close to that is a camp. I don't

1094
00:57:04.679 --> 00:57:07.719
want to say what camp because it involves younger people.

1095
00:57:07.760 --> 00:57:11.719
But they were out there and this younger girl, my

1096
00:57:11.800 --> 00:57:14.719
client's daughter, was telling me that they were out there

1097
00:57:14.719 --> 00:57:17.280
and they saw these really tall kind of red eyes

1098
00:57:17.519 --> 00:57:20.960
above this sign at a camp out in near Sandy,

1099
00:57:21.039 --> 00:57:22.880
and then in the morning they found like a giant

1100
00:57:22.920 --> 00:57:26.239
like footprint, and she just didn't even really care too

1101
00:57:26.320 --> 00:57:28.719
much about the story. That's something I thought was interesting.

1102
00:57:28.800 --> 00:57:31.079
She wasn't really even excited. It was just kind of like, yeah,

1103
00:57:31.119 --> 00:57:34.440
we saw something that last night, red eyes and big footprint.

1104
00:57:35.719 --> 00:57:41.360
So it's just a it seems like in places like

1105
00:57:41.360 --> 00:57:44.840
like this part of Clackamas County, Oregon, in southeast Oklahoma,

1106
00:57:44.920 --> 00:57:47.559
it's like people there's a lot of people who are like, yeah,

1107
00:57:47.599 --> 00:57:52.199
we just we deal with it. Yeah, there's one other area.

1108
00:57:52.760 --> 00:57:56.239
I don't even have it on my map yet. Have

1109
00:57:56.360 --> 00:57:59.440
you ever gotten anything from you know, like you're taking

1110
00:58:00.800 --> 00:58:05.039
twenty six out to Mount Hood and you start going

1111
00:58:05.079 --> 00:58:09.159
through places like Mount Hood Village in Zigzag and stuff.

1112
00:58:10.880 --> 00:58:12.320
Towards Mount Hood Zigzag.

1113
00:58:13.039 --> 00:58:17.079
Yeah. Yeah, but like out in the woods off the road.

1114
00:58:17.079 --> 00:58:19.760
Have you ever gotten anything out like rhododendron stuff like

1115
00:58:19.800 --> 00:58:20.679
that government camp.

1116
00:58:22.719 --> 00:58:25.679
I don't know. I don't know that I have anything

1117
00:58:25.719 --> 00:58:29.239
out there quite yet. I feel like there is what

1118
00:58:29.400 --> 00:58:33.920
Indian Henry and then Timothy Lake. There's stuff up there.

1119
00:58:34.320 --> 00:58:37.440
There's one guy. Yeah, one guy was saying, is Grandma

1120
00:58:37.480 --> 00:58:41.320
saw one at Timothy Lake eating cuckleberries. So that's kind

1121
00:58:41.320 --> 00:58:43.000
of looking at the map here, So that's kind of

1122
00:58:43.000 --> 00:58:48.199
in that direction towards yeah, towards rhododendron, kind of.

1123
00:58:48.239 --> 00:58:54.280
Up there zigzag and I think it's Lolo pass Road. Yeah.

1124
00:58:54.320 --> 00:58:56.960
East Lolo Pass Road has one of the weirdest stories

1125
00:58:57.000 --> 00:59:00.519
I've taken on the podcast. It's the one where the

1126
00:59:00.639 --> 00:59:03.760
guy is uh is camping out there with his buddy,

1127
00:59:03.920 --> 00:59:08.920
and long story short, they get down by this creek

1128
00:59:08.960 --> 00:59:13.199
and pretty much they see a big foot that turns

1129
00:59:13.440 --> 00:59:20.559
into a billowing cloud, billowing black cloud, and then it

1130
00:59:20.679 --> 00:59:23.079
like goes across the creek. It's really weird.

1131
00:59:23.719 --> 00:59:24.840
I think I heard that story.

1132
00:59:24.960 --> 00:59:28.239
Yeah, I've heard that happen something similar to that out

1133
00:59:28.239 --> 00:59:30.519
in West Virginia too, So I don't know if that's

1134
00:59:30.559 --> 00:59:33.280
another thing where they can like shape shift in the

1135
00:59:34.280 --> 00:59:36.719
in the dark clouds. Who knows, But.

1136
00:59:37.480 --> 00:59:39.039
Is that the one where he said it was like

1137
00:59:39.079 --> 00:59:43.880
a panther or something like yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, yeah

1138
00:59:43.920 --> 00:59:45.320
that was up in the zigzag for it.

1139
00:59:45.440 --> 00:59:49.679
That's right, mm hmm yeah, So definitely if you ever

1140
00:59:49.719 --> 00:59:51.880
hear anything out in that area, let me know. But

1141
00:59:52.960 --> 00:59:56.920
my goodness, Sarah, this has been a really fun conversation,

1142
00:59:57.119 --> 01:00:00.400
and thank you for spending some of your time chatting

1143
01:00:00.400 --> 01:00:05.519
about Bigfoot and what you have been privileged enough to

1144
01:00:06.559 --> 01:00:09.519
have people talk to you about, because it is very

1145
01:00:09.559 --> 01:00:12.119
cool what you do out there, and you're just you're

1146
01:00:12.159 --> 01:00:15.639
really a ground zero and I'm so glad that someone

1147
01:00:16.159 --> 01:00:19.320
with the right heart is out there to be able

1148
01:00:19.559 --> 01:00:24.400
to document what people are doing in a respectful way,

1149
01:00:24.440 --> 01:00:26.679
which is what I also try to do on the show.

1150
01:00:26.719 --> 01:00:32.599
But how can people reach out? Is there a way

1151
01:00:32.599 --> 01:00:34.840
they can reach out to you or how should they

1152
01:00:35.360 --> 01:00:38.360
keep up to date with the channel and if you'd

1153
01:00:38.360 --> 01:00:39.960
be able to share about that for a minute.

1154
01:00:40.679 --> 01:00:44.639
Yeah, So on YouTube you can find my YouTube channel's

1155
01:00:44.639 --> 01:00:48.199
Bigfoot Fades with a z fad ea Z which is

1156
01:00:48.239 --> 01:00:51.639
after you know, barbering doing haircut fades. So Bigfoot Fads

1157
01:00:51.679 --> 01:00:55.119
at gmail dot com and I'm really interested in helping

1158
01:00:55.159 --> 01:00:58.159
people bring their photos to life and help clean them up.

1159
01:00:58.719 --> 01:01:00.280
And of course I don't charge any thing like that.

1160
01:01:00.360 --> 01:01:03.000
I'm just trying to help people out. So that's kind

1161
01:01:03.039 --> 01:01:06.320
of been my support to the community. Anything I can

1162
01:01:06.360 --> 01:01:09.679
do there, So if anybody has anything they want help with,

1163
01:01:09.719 --> 01:01:12.840
I can always try. I've also been doing animations and

1164
01:01:12.840 --> 01:01:16.320
stuff for people just for fun. It's another great way too,

1165
01:01:16.480 --> 01:01:18.760
So if somebody wants to tell her story but they

1166
01:01:18.800 --> 01:01:20.639
don't really want to go on a podcast, instead of

1167
01:01:20.639 --> 01:01:23.239
me retelling it, I can create an animation to retell it,

1168
01:01:23.239 --> 01:01:25.199
which is kind of a fun way to show it.

1169
01:01:26.159 --> 01:01:28.039
So I've been using Sora too for that also.

1170
01:01:28.639 --> 01:01:30.960
Oh sure, yeah, absolutely so.

1171
01:01:31.119 --> 01:01:34.679
Yeah, I was gonna tell you too. I did have

1172
01:01:35.119 --> 01:01:37.559
was it Henry Friendzoni that passed.

1173
01:01:37.320 --> 01:01:43.280
Away, Henry Franzoni passed away last year.

1174
01:01:43.639 --> 01:01:46.079
Yeah, yeah, I did have one guy that told me

1175
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he worked in the I think it was the Trojan Plant.

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Oh yeah, yeah, for a long time.

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So I got to ask him some questions like follow

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up on that one, and I was just kind of

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I think Henry said that they were were they living

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down in it he thought, or in the.

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Area he was looking into supposed tunnels under the near

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01:02:06.119 --> 01:02:10.400
area and Trojan nuclear he thought that they were down

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in the tunnels. Yeah.

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Yeah, this guy did tell me there's tunnels there. He'd

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been down in them, so I asked him if he

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had seen any evidence of them or anything, and he

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hadn't seen anything, but he did say there were some

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pretty vast tunnels under there.

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For sure, So that's really cool mm hmm.

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Yeah, And he said that it was very secure too,

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that they had. They would have people come out from

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the government to test the security of it. And it

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was some kind of weird story where one guy he

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was like secured enough he could like jump through this

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fence or something. It was a weird story. Yeah, So

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01:02:46.599 --> 01:02:49.119
there was some interesting stuff with that that area over there,

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01:02:49.159 --> 01:02:52.199
for sure. And then timber oregan. That was another story

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01:02:52.239 --> 01:02:55.039
I had to where a guy had heard vocals where

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it sounded like they were speaking in Russian and when

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he went out there, he said that he just heard

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them and it sounded like they were building something with

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like giant logs, and they were talking to each other

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01:03:07.960 --> 01:03:10.079
and he just felt instantly sick, like a pain in

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01:03:10.119 --> 01:03:15.320
his back or stomach, like potentially like an infrasound like

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01:03:15.440 --> 01:03:19.239
Taipa took over him. So that was another And that's

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pretty close to that kind of Trojan area, so kind

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01:03:24.039 --> 01:03:26.000
of rainier Timber Oregon.

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Interesting. Well, Sarah, you know I always have an eye

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01:03:32.039 --> 01:03:37.519
out for a new episode from from your show. Look

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01:03:37.519 --> 01:03:42.079
at that Siri just activated, said Sarah, not Siri, dude,

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01:03:42.679 --> 01:03:46.000
the phone being weird. But but thank you so much

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for coming on the show, and it'll be fun to

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see what you get into in the future. I hope

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that you're able to continue documenting bigfoot interactions out there

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01:03:58.320 --> 01:04:01.880
in the Pacific Northwest, and we'll have to maybe check

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01:04:01.920 --> 01:04:04.000
in with you sometime in the future. But thank you

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01:04:04.039 --> 01:04:05.440
so much for coming on the show today.

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01:04:05.760 --> 01:04:07.960
All right, thank you, Deremijah.

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Before we wrap this episode, I want to say something

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directly to a very specific group of listeners. If you're

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in the military, any branch or forces, and if you've

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happen that you've never told a soul. And if you're

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