Jan. 13, 2026

First Nations Truths | British Columbia

First Nations Truths | British Columbia
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Join host Jeremiah Byron as he delves deep into some extraordinary firsthand Bigfoot encounters shared by listeners from across North America. From eerie experiences in Michigan, Wisconsin, Colorado, Washington, Ontario, and across Native American lands in British Columbia, this episode features a diverse range of spine-chilling stories. Hear about mysterious sightings, terrifying grunts, and strange footprints that suggest that something unknown is out there. We also explore rich cultural stories and ancient knowledge from Native American traditions that shed light on understanding possibly different species of Bigfoot. Don't miss these riveting accounts that will change the way you see the woods forever.

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You're listening to Bigla Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron. In

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this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to bring

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you first hand encounters from people who say they've seen

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something impossible. From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers to

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quiet farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere,

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and each one leaves us with more questions than answers.

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These are the voices of the people who've lived it.

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To settle in, because today you'll hear another account that

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just might change the way you see the woods forever.

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So stay with us. Feel free to share what you've experienced.

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Her my first time, can I say where? It's where

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they were?

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Absolutely? Yeah.

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It was in Yankee Springs, Michigan. We were coon hunting.

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I was just a child. I can't tell you exactly

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how old, but it's possible I was five or six

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years old. The dog took off and chased a deer,

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which they weren't supposed to do, so my grandfather set

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us on a tree that had been broken down to

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wait there while he went and got the dogs. Because

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it was a swampy area where we had parked, and

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all around us was a hill that you could see,

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you know, the outline of trees and such. And my

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brother that was with me was getting a little bit

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nervous about something, and I pointed up the hill and said, well,

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Grandpa's just standing right there, and he goes, no, that's

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not grandpa. And my grandfather came left in the opposite

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direction and came back up the hill from the opposite direction.

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And although he was a big man, this thing was

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wide and big. And I couldn't tell you exactly now,

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but I've always remembered it. And when we talked about

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it the next day, my grandfather mentioned that I said

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it felt like being in the twilight zone because of

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seeing him walk up after I just saw him in

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the opposite direction about one hundred yards by second two

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incidences we're in Athens, Michigan. The first one, I was

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sitting indoors and I heard the old Ohio type yell

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in the woods that were beyond the acreage in my backyard.

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I could hear indoors. My wife come running in the

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house scared. My neighbor went in the house and called

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me and said, did you hear that? And I said, yes,

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I even heard it indoors. It was May twenty seventh,

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about right around I would say maybe twenty twelve, an

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exact week later. I was the one outdoors. We had

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projects going on because we had just bought the house.

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I was one outdoors, and the same thing happened from

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this wooded area. A friend of mine came later in

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the afternoon and I told him about it, and he goes,

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let's go check it out. And when we got into

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the woods there were footprints. I called the bfroo that

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who was in charge of it in Michigan. He came

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to my house and found other evidence of twisted trees

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and everything else that were actually in my yard. We

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just had a lot of strange things happen in that

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Athens area that you know that there was no explanation

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other than bigfoot.

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How close do you think it was getting to your house?

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I think it was coming up to I had a building,

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a giant building, seventy two by forty brick building that

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was two stories tall, and in back where I built

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a car, built cars and worked on things. I think

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it was coming to the back of that building, which

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was maybe forty to fifty steps from the house. And

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I believe it was coming more than one would come

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across the street that the woods that lined the road,

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because we'd hear them knocking back and forth. At night time.

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My wife would wake up to it and shake me

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and say, are you listening to that? And of course

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in summertime we'd have the windows open and I'd pay

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a lot of attention to it because it was like

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one was signaling to the other. You could tell they

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were quite a distance away from each other.

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Do you know if hold on sorry, do you know

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if your neighbors were experiencing anything as well?

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Yes, they were hearing stuff, Like I said. One of

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the first times when my wife had heard it, my

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neighbor was out there and he heard it and called

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me and asked me if I heard it? Me being

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in the house, I heard it so plain and so loud.

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It was almost like you could feel it, especially at

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the end of the call. At the end of the call,

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it got so deep and guttural that it kind of

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felt it through the air. And my wife wouldn't get

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scared or think bigfoot automatically whatsoever. But she come running

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in the house and said, what do you think that was?

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And I said, what did it sound like to you?

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And the first words that come out of her mouth

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were bigfoot, and she wouldn't be someone that would jump

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to that conclusion.

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Based on what you've experienced over the years, How would

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you describe what bigfoot is?

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I I really I don't believe they're extraterrestial, like I

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read and hear people's opinion of. I think they're just

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an unknown maybe ape, maybe an ape and human mixed.

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I don't know, because the size just is is what

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keeps my mind working, you know, the size of them

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having to go back so many thousands of years for

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gigant epithetus to be to have been alive. I don't

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believe they could have hid for that long. But now

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it seems they ain't even hiding. Either that that or

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AI is taking over and you can't believe none of it.

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Yeah, I mean a lot of stuff that you're seeing

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out there today is fake because it's AI. But I'm

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also saying that we're either at the point where there's

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a ton of encounters happening, or people are just at

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the point where they don't care and they're sharing what

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they've experienced, which I think is great. So it's a

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very interesting time period to live in. But thank you

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so much for coming up and sharing what you experienced

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up there in Michigan.

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Well, I just hope that in my lifetime they do

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find the correct answer. It's just one of the things

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I even pray to God about that I do find

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out the truth well during my lifetime, and I just

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wanted to share that with you, and thank you. I

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watch you on here all the time.

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That's awesome. Thank you so much. I appreciate it. And

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I hope you are able to stick around. Thank you,

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God bless you.

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We'll be here you too.

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That's good stuff, good stuff, good first accounts from Michigan.

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Thank you, Slinger. All Right, hey, Ronald, how's it going.

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I'm good. How are you doing tonight? Hey?

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Doing great.

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I don't know if it's much of.

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A story, to be honest with you, if it's I'm

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not sure if it's even a bigfoot story, but it was.

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It was something that was kind of stuck in my

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mind for quite a while. So this happened, you mind

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if I just started right away? Uh, this happened. I

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want to say about it's going on three years ago.

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Between two and three years ago, my one of my

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older brothers passed away. And I'm in Wisconsin and I

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live in Waukee Shaw, Wisconsin, and my brother was living

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up in the Indian Reservation in Monocua, which is about

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a four hour drive up north from Waukee Shaw, Wisconsin.

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So it's real.

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It's a real wooded area, heavily wooded. And we were

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up there, me, my wife, my three boys, and we

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met up with a couple of friends of the family

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who were going up for his funeral. We actually had

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to do a thing where we're in Mexican American. But

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his girlfriend was Native, and when my brother passed away,

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you know, they had kids together, they had a Native

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funeral for him. That's what he wanted. That was his

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last request. And there's a whole ritual that goes with it. It's

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kind of cool. I won't go into great detail for it,

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but basically, they start a fire in front of the

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home and you got to keep it going. That's why

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we went up there. I had promised my brother before

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he passed away that we would keep the fire burning

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for like three days. And it's cold up there, extremely cold.

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So when we went up there, we rented out of

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place right outside of the Indian Reservation, which is locked.

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The Flambeaux, So I want to say it was in

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the Monocla area. We showed up there. You know, the

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days are shorter up here in the cold. This was jeez,

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I should I should notice. I apologize, but I'm trying

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to remember the date. Let me look at it. I

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actually got a photo of.

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His on my on my wall here. Well.

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Anyways, this was This was at the end of winter,

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but it was still extremely cold, and we rented out

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of place, like I said, and we were staying out there.

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And one of the evenings that we came back, after

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a lot of the rituals and stuff that we did,

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we were all pretty tired and we went back to

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the placed, the cottage that we were staying at, and

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it was out there all I remember.

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It's by a lake.

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But we never really got any time to spend there

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other than because we were there for my brother's funeral.

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And like I said, we were there with a couple

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of friends. They were in the cottage next to us,

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and my wife's a smoker. I'm a smoker too, but

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I hadn't gone out with them. They went out in

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the back deck her in a front of ours that

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was there. This was that night it was pitch black,

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and we.

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Were sitting in the living room.

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Watching a movie and they came just busting in the

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door with I mean, they were just pale white, and

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they swore they heard this animal. And there's a lot

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of beer up there. Black bear, you know, you see

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them every now and then or whatever. But they swore

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up and now this was not a bear. This was

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sounded like a very large animal that kind of made

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like a roaring yell sound. That's the best they could

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explain it. And then they said that it sounded like

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when they heard it, they heard it hit the water

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because there was a lake down below. But you couldn't

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see it at night, you know. And we went and

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looked the next day, but there was still snow on

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the ground and stuff, so we didn't go all the

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way down by the lake. But it was quite a way,

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you know, I'd say, maybe like one hundred yards. But

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like I said, that night, at night they're out there smoking,

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you can't see anything.

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It's bits black.

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But they said that they heard the thing like whatever

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it was, they believe jumped in the water or threw

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something in the water that was extremely large, because the

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splash was really loud.

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And that's that's.

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Pretty much the story the wake, the way I remember it.

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But it had us all thinking quite a bit.

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Wow, that's pretty cool. I don't hear a lot from

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northern Wisconsin, so that is that is great to hear that.

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Thank you for sharing that.

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Yeah, you're welcome.

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Have a good night, you too, sir. Hi there, how

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are you.

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Yacht to say? We see in our language?

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Yes, sir, Yes, sir, patsy oh, pleasure to meet you, sir.

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All right, we'll feel free to share what you would

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like to today, sir in.

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Our language, I said earlier, yacht to say that means

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hello and goodbye.

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But my story goes I had a friend of mine.

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I was hunting in Colorado.

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I'm a big time Native American hunter, and I was

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hunting elk.

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Me and my son.

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We had ATVs, we had trailers, we had my old

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antique what I say, it's called canvas. It's made out

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of Denver Canvas Tent Company. I'm not getting sponsorship, so

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just that.

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Off right off the bat.

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But we were we were hunting up there and we

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were in the Salida area. It's by going up towards Bonanza.

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If you go on Colorado map, you go towards Salida.

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Further up there's nothing but a so watch area. That's

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that's a native language, so watch.

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We were up hunting.

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My buddy of mine came back, came down from Ohio.

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He brought his girlfriend and her son, and we were hunting.

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We went scouting the day before. We got there, before

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the hunting season opened. So we went scouting and we

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were at twelve five hundred feet on the mountains.

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As natives as we are.

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I took him to a pristine spot where I knew

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the elk word. They say in our language. When it's dry,

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you go high. When there's snow, you go low. That

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just our way.

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So we were hunting. We came back. There was a

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lot of hunters.

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Believe me, that's a very predominant big bull hunt. So

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we were made up camp. I had a hunter's tamp,

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we had food going. I was cooking some of my

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famous oyster soup. And I think that's what brought him

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in because my friend Dave, and he's from Ohio.

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He's a metal.

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Salesman for educational purposes. But he was up there and

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he brought his desert storm. So I was cooking, were

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enjoying camp.

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Was going five of us, not one of us.

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Five when we saw the bushes move eight to nine

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feet high at the very outskirts.

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So I had some common lamps.

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I had a shower slash bathroom facility built out towards

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the There was a little creek running behind us. But

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these bushes were moving, and he freaked out. I told Dave, hey, no, no,

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be cool. Native to these lands, I said to him,

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he just wants to know what he smells.

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The food I was cooking was oysters.

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Oysters carry if you're cooking oysters, out and open, and

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he came through. We saw the bushes. But the sound

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when I watched this one program on YouTube, these gentlemen

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are in the very backskirts of Alaska.

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The same thing that he said is the same thing

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I said. The bass.

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The sound of the grunt resonates through your body. It's

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not what you normally hear from deer, elk, moose, bear,

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or mountain lion.

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It's totally different. As Native people, we know these hairy creatures.

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We call them brothers from the from the mountains.

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So he came to visit. I told him to chill out.

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We're not going to do nothing. He's not bothering us.

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He just wanted to say ahy by his movement and

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we had to accept it. And I said, just leave

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it alone. But my friend Dave pulled out that big

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Israeli and I started laughing. I told him, hey, calm down, Dave.

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He comes in peace, he's not coming to bother us.

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He's enjoys the food I was cooking.

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Mm hm m hm. Wow, that is wild. My goodness.

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Have you been fortunate enough to have any other experiences

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out there?

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That was my first ever experience.

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But I always watched these programs and here's something that

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you have to understand. I'm not saying it out of disrespect.

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I'm saying it out of knowledge. Our people, our people

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were basically friends with these creatures.

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We've given gifts we would we would give. They were

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called the protectors of the forest.

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Where you got to understand, if you're not from these lands,

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you will not understand it. They've been present to our

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people for thousands of years and what they're trying to

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portray in these channels and all these YouTube channels, you

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have to have the vibration, the proper vibration to these

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lands to communicate with these creatures.

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They only understand our language. If you know what I mean.

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Yeah, absolutely, How does one do that?

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You can't, You can't, you can't. It's impossible. They've known

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us for thousands of years. Us are people people being

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to these lands. They understood us, We understood them, we

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respected them, they respected us. And now they're making millions

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of dollars where people are donating money and so forth

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and so on. We're something they are not aware of

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because they're not people from these lands. You have to

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understand that. That's clearly stated. If you're from Russia, you're

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from Europe, or wherever you come from, that's your lens.

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These are our my native lands. We know these stories

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throughout history. Many tribes have stories of these people, the area, creatures,

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or the mountains. And that's where I think to get

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down to the nitty gritty, if you run, if you

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really want a real, authentic video or true connection to

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these lands, to communicate with these people, it's our people,

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but no one's asked us yet.

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So let me make sure I get this right. So

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in order to communicate correctly, really one needs to go

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through through an individual as yourself.

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As our native people to these lands.

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Yes, right, So how would one do that?

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Like I said, you're asking a question that's very difficult.

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I guess I can say.

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I can say this.

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When I was up there and I felt that presence,

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the vibration that it was sending out to me. I

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felt that piece. My friend Dave felt otherwise. He's not

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from these lands. His ancestors came from somewhere else. Understand

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our stories. Look them up. That's all I can say.

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You call me a liar, I see it.

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Call me a liar if you want, but look them up.

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These are our stories. No one asked us.

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But yet you have these people spinning off all kinds

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of this net something or another and making money. Donate,

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we'll go research. They feel the vibration from outsiders as well.

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Remember thousands of years have people been here. We felt

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that same vibration, didn't understand the lingo, and yet it

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cost us our land. We are here, We're still here.

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We don't hate you. We just want you to be fair.

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That's all I'm mat.

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I got you, I got it, I got it. Wow,

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It's that's some really fascinating stuff to think about. Thank

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you so much for sharing your viewpoint on things I

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some of My most favorite conversations have been with you know,

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I've talked to individuals from the Tully River Reservation from

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Uh yeah, yeah, it's just the things you learned from

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those conversations are just incredible. So thank you so much.

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It's out of respect.

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In our language, we would say that means hello and goodbye.

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There's no such thing as i'll see you later, but

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anyway she will call patchy.

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I'm a Native artist and Shyana Wayoman.

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With all the disturbance and all the vibrations are going

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sideways with this earth wars, and you know, w's to

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just say that with educational purposes, all these ws are

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circling our people. Uh, this is not what we signed

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up for. And I hate to bring politics, but politics

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is crooked, That's all I can say. And it's never

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it's never been straight for us since day one, since

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they came off the Mayflower. Those pilgrims were very nice

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to us, and we found that the end result after

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the fact.

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But when it comes to Bigfoot, ask us.

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If we're willing to speak up on these special creatures

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that we're sent here to coexist with us, but in

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the shadows, so to speak, if we were up.

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In the mountains in summertime.

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We would run across them because they just like us,

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they migrate the food. The elk and the deer they

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come down because of the snow, the level of snow,

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so they have to come down, and they follow them

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because that's what they're you know, food is.

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It's been a known.

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Fact that every time you go through these territories throughout

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the United States, there's always called a trail, a game trail.

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Learned the game trail as Native people, we learned for

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a thousands of years. We know where the buffalo were coming,

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the elk, the deer, the moose, and so forth and

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so on, until we were disturbed on our piece of

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our land. And then that was taken from us by

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the annihilation of millions abu or buffalo, our mainstay of food.

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Uh.

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If you can look at the serengetti back in Africa

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that was existing here.

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The elk used to be in the open fields, the moose,

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the black bear, the grizzly.

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Look at Alaska, there's not many trees, but what's roaming

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there exactly what was roaming here, the elk, the wolves,

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the black bear, the grizzly, the you know, all these animals,

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the buffalo, and then on top of that you go

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further the.

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Giant migration of the not antelope. But what are they

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called the not reindeer, caribou. There you go.

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That is our people's We knew the cycle of migration,

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and we would store our food during summertime or winter

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because that's the coldest they would come through. We would

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take what we need to last us through winter. So

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these are the simple facts. There's not something that's scientific

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or somebody writing on the piece of paper.

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These are facts.

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These animals would migrate and our people would intercept them

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in this migrations and have food for winter.

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The United States was no different.

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But when it comes to Bigfoot, that's sacred.

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It's important to us.

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These are the caretakers of the woods, and we named

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them that, and they were like the Harry.

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Brothers so to speak.

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So you don't get a lot of information from our

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people because we're kind of like, let's just say in

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left field.

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Don't want to speak about it.

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But there's many stories if you talk to our native

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people about the Harry brothers that live in the mountains

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and they're here and now you guys are seeing just

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midgets of evidence, but nobody knows what truly evidence that's occurred.

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We have it in our stories.

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I'm facinating. Well, thank you for coming up. I I

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appreciate you, Sharon. I think it it this will point

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steer people in the right direction. But thank you so

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much for for coming up. Sir.

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You have to respect it. This is not something that's

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a sideshow. You have to you have to respect what

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what Creator gave us. He gave us protectors, just like

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uh uh. And I hate to get into politics, you

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know how quickly that is?

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What? What?

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What?

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Everything that's going on in this in this atmosphere.

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United States, uh to island atrocities throughout years and I

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hate it. Like I said, I don't want to go

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into that, but as a Native American to these lands,

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it's unfortunate that greed is the root of all evil.

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And when they're chopping all these trees down and around

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like just say Brazil, Columbia, all these where the indigenous

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people live, they're tearing down all these forests.

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That is the breadth of this earth.

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That cleans the air that we all breathe, is these

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jungles and these places that we call inhabitable places. That's

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our lung to this earth. And when people don't understand

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what we understand as native people, when it comes to

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our brother in the mountains, the Hairy Brother, they make.

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Turkish out of it. It's unfortunate.

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So it's a lot to learn. It's it's a lot

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to learn, but it's a lot to think about as well.

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But I appreciate you coming up. Thank you so much, sir.

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Thank you, my friend. I come in peace. I hope

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people understand what I'm saying. It's simple. You don't need science.

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You need to understand that this vibration this earth is

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putting off.

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It's going to be the end of all of us.

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Greed is controlling everything throughout this country and this world.

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We never we never were brought up that way. We

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were brought up to live coexistent with this land, the

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animals that the Creator gave us. And it says in

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their Bible, and I hate to say this, everything I

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have for you is there, the fruits, the many vegetables,

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and the healing purposes of all these plants that he

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gave us to heal ourselves. But see, people don't think

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that way in today's world. They think of simplicity in

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big pharma.

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Theory.

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Take a pill head, itche goes away. It's out there,

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it's growing in these lands. Our people knew of this.

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It heals our body. Everything that comes from this earth

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was given to all of us. But see what amazes

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people is the extraordinary stuff that happens on this earth.

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Something don't they have no clue of or no existent

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or connection to it.

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If you know what I mean, Our people were connected.

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So if you look at the pipher glyphs throughout the

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00:31:05.000 --> 00:31:07.799
United States, you see a big hairy thing with a

475
00:31:07.920 --> 00:31:08.519
light on it.

476
00:31:09.559 --> 00:31:11.240
Yes, that is Bigfoot.

477
00:31:12.000 --> 00:31:17.880
Absolutely, it's a being that It's a being that we

478
00:31:18.079 --> 00:31:19.559
ourselves try to understand.

479
00:31:20.759 --> 00:31:24.880
But there's a purpose. It's here for a reason.

480
00:31:25.720 --> 00:31:29.160
Maybe it's here to share our end, to tell us

481
00:31:29.160 --> 00:31:32.160
a story if we can communicate with it properly.

482
00:31:33.759 --> 00:31:35.880
Humans are bad people.

483
00:31:38.799 --> 00:31:44.519
They always hate each other because a greed, anger, or

484
00:31:44.599 --> 00:31:48.720
even just blindfolded not knowing what direction is up or down.

485
00:31:49.799 --> 00:31:53.039
It's sad that we have to continue living this way

486
00:31:53.119 --> 00:31:58.759
in this country of my people, my lens. Under all

487
00:31:58.920 --> 00:32:02.799
this chaos that's going on today, it's going to be

488
00:32:02.880 --> 00:32:04.000
end of all of us.

489
00:32:05.119 --> 00:32:11.079
No one's safe. When when When the when the time comes,

490
00:32:12.759 --> 00:32:21.279
Where are you going to hide? That is all I

491
00:32:21.319 --> 00:32:26.079
have to say. I'm Ray BLACKBIRDI wika up patching, I

492
00:32:26.160 --> 00:32:26.839
come in peace.

493
00:32:27.279 --> 00:32:30.200
I hope you understand what I try to say in

494
00:32:30.279 --> 00:32:32.920
my message not to disrespect.

495
00:32:33.519 --> 00:32:39.519
Listen to the words why are a human always hating

496
00:32:39.759 --> 00:32:45.960
other humans? For what reason? Creator sends us here to

497
00:32:46.039 --> 00:32:50.039
live on this land to be free people? Are we

498
00:32:50.160 --> 00:32:54.119
really free? That is all I have to say.

499
00:32:55.359 --> 00:32:58.440
The great talk, great talk, Thank you, Thank you so much.

500
00:32:58.480 --> 00:33:01.119
We hope to hear again from you some day hopefully.

501
00:33:01.519 --> 00:33:12.319
Thank you for coming up, sir. Wow, that was really special. Guys,

502
00:33:12.480 --> 00:33:17.400
that was a special chat. My goodness, there was a

503
00:33:17.400 --> 00:33:21.119
lot to take away from that. I hope Hey night, sure,

504
00:33:21.119 --> 00:33:22.519
how are you hey?

505
00:33:22.640 --> 00:33:24.039
Not too bad? How about yourself?

506
00:33:24.599 --> 00:33:27.279
Hey good? I feel free to share what you've experienced

507
00:33:27.279 --> 00:33:29.839
out there in the pnw Okay.

508
00:33:30.000 --> 00:33:30.200
Yeah.

509
00:33:30.200 --> 00:33:33.200
I lived up in the Olympic National Park in the

510
00:33:33.240 --> 00:33:42.079
Pacific Northwest, the rainforest, and I had several instances. The

511
00:33:42.119 --> 00:33:44.279
one though, that was the most striking where I got

512
00:33:44.319 --> 00:33:49.640
a very good clear view of a big foot was

513
00:33:50.799 --> 00:33:53.440
I had worked at a shipyard. I was building boats,

514
00:33:54.480 --> 00:33:56.640
and i'd got worked a late shift and I was

515
00:33:56.680 --> 00:34:04.240
headed home after getting some dinner, and I was the

516
00:34:04.359 --> 00:34:06.680
road went along the swamp. There was a harbor on

517
00:34:06.680 --> 00:34:09.679
one side and a deep wooded area off to the

518
00:34:09.760 --> 00:34:14.239
left to the south, and I was going west, going

519
00:34:14.280 --> 00:34:16.960
back toward the coast towards where I was living, right

520
00:34:17.000 --> 00:34:21.880
on the beach there, and uh, the road turned. It

521
00:34:21.920 --> 00:34:24.960
is almost midnight, is close to It was close to midnight,

522
00:34:25.920 --> 00:34:29.559
and it was dark, and I had to pick up

523
00:34:29.559 --> 00:34:32.079
with these k Sea lights across the top that used

524
00:34:32.079 --> 00:34:35.280
to be popular back and they spotlights across the roll bar.

525
00:34:35.480 --> 00:34:39.440
It's kind of an off road truck. And uh, so

526
00:34:39.559 --> 00:34:41.599
I was out on that highway by myself, just a

527
00:34:41.639 --> 00:34:46.199
two lane going along between the harbor there. There was

528
00:34:46.239 --> 00:34:49.079
a swamp there off between the road and the harbor.

529
00:34:49.599 --> 00:34:49.760
Then.

530
00:34:50.519 --> 00:34:53.199
So I was going along toward the coast and had

531
00:34:53.280 --> 00:34:55.320
my big k Sea lights on trying to light it up.

532
00:34:55.360 --> 00:35:00.360
It's kind of drizzly, and uh, the road turned just

533
00:35:00.400 --> 00:35:03.920
a little bit to the left, and I was as

534
00:35:03.960 --> 00:35:06.920
I'm coming up, I saw on the shoulder what I

535
00:35:06.920 --> 00:35:11.039
thought was on the shoulder, what I thought was a hunter,

536
00:35:11.519 --> 00:35:14.880
a bow hunter in a gilly suit. And because that

537
00:35:15.000 --> 00:35:18.880
was a deep swamp, deep wilderness, area. It was bo season.

538
00:35:18.920 --> 00:35:22.599
It was close to November, and in that part of

539
00:35:22.639 --> 00:35:24.440
the country was bo season at the time. I thought

540
00:35:24.440 --> 00:35:27.719
it well and a bow hunter had gotten lost and

541
00:35:27.800 --> 00:35:29.719
finally found his way out to the highway, and here

542
00:35:29.719 --> 00:35:32.039
he's walking up the road trying to make his way

543
00:35:32.079 --> 00:35:33.719
back to town or get somebody to pick him up

544
00:35:33.719 --> 00:35:37.079
in a gilly suit. That was my first thought when

545
00:35:37.119 --> 00:35:40.280
I saw it up ahead a little ways, kind of

546
00:35:40.280 --> 00:35:43.559
beside the road. But I got up close to it

547
00:35:43.599 --> 00:35:46.360
and I had all those lights on, and I realized

548
00:35:46.400 --> 00:35:50.440
that's not somebody standing on the shoulder, because the shoulder

549
00:35:50.440 --> 00:35:53.440
of the road drops down into that swamp about maybe

550
00:35:53.480 --> 00:35:59.159
ten foot or more. And he wasn't standing on the road.

551
00:35:59.199 --> 00:36:02.039
He was standing on the bank. But he was so

552
00:36:02.280 --> 00:36:05.440
tall that he was probably his head is five or

553
00:36:05.480 --> 00:36:09.039
six foot off the road, so I'm guessing he's probably

554
00:36:09.079 --> 00:36:12.000
every bit of He had been close to eight to

555
00:36:12.079 --> 00:36:15.159
ten foot tall from how far down the bank the

556
00:36:15.199 --> 00:36:18.679
shoulder he was standing, and it looked just like a

557
00:36:18.760 --> 00:36:21.360
dude in a gilly suit, you know. Just of course,

558
00:36:21.400 --> 00:36:22.760
it was at night, so I didn't see a lot

559
00:36:22.760 --> 00:36:24.719
of details, but he was standing there staring at me.

560
00:36:25.719 --> 00:36:31.440
And when I saw it like it took me minute

561
00:36:31.880 --> 00:36:35.360
to register what I was looking at, because it's like

562
00:36:35.639 --> 00:36:38.599
I saw it, but I didn't believe it. It was

563
00:36:38.639 --> 00:36:42.400
so out of what I was expecting to see, and

564
00:36:43.400 --> 00:36:46.840
so I slowed down. But when I realized it wasn't

565
00:36:46.880 --> 00:36:50.119
not a hunter needing help, I got this sense of

566
00:36:50.159 --> 00:36:52.559
fear that come over me. That thing scared me to death,

567
00:36:53.599 --> 00:36:58.519
and I went on past it about twenty thirty feet

568
00:36:58.639 --> 00:37:03.000
up the road. Gave me time to get armed and

569
00:37:03.280 --> 00:37:06.039
spun around and tried to catch it in my lights again.

570
00:37:06.360 --> 00:37:07.920
I wanted to see it, but I didn't want to

571
00:37:07.920 --> 00:37:11.119
see it again without feeling like I could protect myself

572
00:37:11.159 --> 00:37:13.039
in some way. That thing, it was huge, scared me

573
00:37:13.079 --> 00:37:16.280
to death, but I never saw it by the time

574
00:37:16.320 --> 00:37:19.199
I got turned around and had gone. But I saw it.

575
00:37:19.679 --> 00:37:23.079
I mean I really, you know, the Indians all had stories,

576
00:37:23.079 --> 00:37:26.079
and I had hunting buddies that had stories, and I

577
00:37:26.239 --> 00:37:28.000
was just kind of wrote it off as a legend

578
00:37:28.679 --> 00:37:33.440
or just campfire stories, you know. But man, that night

579
00:37:33.480 --> 00:37:37.199
I saw it, I mean, in full spotlight, staring back

580
00:37:37.239 --> 00:37:39.719
at me. I'm a believe it, whether I want to

581
00:37:39.760 --> 00:37:44.639
be or not now, but it was something never forgot it.

582
00:37:44.719 --> 00:37:45.079
Wow.

583
00:37:45.599 --> 00:37:50.360
But I was standing there. That was about eleven o'clock.

584
00:37:50.400 --> 00:37:53.320
I'm thinking he was probably hunting in that swamp and

585
00:37:53.400 --> 00:37:55.440
I was trying to get up up into the mountains

586
00:37:55.519 --> 00:37:59.599
up the wooded area across the road and I happened

587
00:37:59.599 --> 00:38:03.920
to catch it and my spotlights there. But yeah, it

588
00:38:03.960 --> 00:38:10.159
was something else. It was that wild I wish I

589
00:38:10.159 --> 00:38:12.320
wish now you know they got the cameras on the

590
00:38:12.400 --> 00:38:14.920
dash you can put on your now. I wish i'd

591
00:38:14.920 --> 00:38:16.719
have had that because I would have had it in

592
00:38:16.800 --> 00:38:20.199
full spotlights, and that had been a something to have.

593
00:38:20.320 --> 00:38:24.360
But i'd heard him. I've heard him since then. I've

594
00:38:24.400 --> 00:38:28.920
spent a lot of time in the wilderness, and uh,

595
00:38:29.320 --> 00:38:31.320
i'd heard him plenty times. But I didn't know what

596
00:38:31.360 --> 00:38:34.199
the noise was. In the woods, you hear lots of things,

597
00:38:34.239 --> 00:38:36.880
and normally you understand what it is. But they do

598
00:38:37.000 --> 00:38:40.880
like a knocking on a tree, and they make different noises,

599
00:38:41.440 --> 00:38:44.400
and there's a certain gawl that they make. And I'd

600
00:38:44.440 --> 00:38:47.679
heard that knocking, oh four or five times. I didn't

601
00:38:47.719 --> 00:38:49.920
know what it was. I just figured somebody's out chopping

602
00:38:50.039 --> 00:38:53.280
a tree down. And but I never I never one

603
00:38:53.280 --> 00:38:56.320
time I tried to find the fella doing the chopping,

604
00:38:57.000 --> 00:39:00.320
and I never could find him. And it didn't till

605
00:39:00.679 --> 00:39:04.039
years later. I started learning what I had my encounter,

606
00:39:04.079 --> 00:39:07.119
and I started doing investigation, like what in the world

607
00:39:07.199 --> 00:39:09.519
these things are real? You know? Then I heard about

608
00:39:09.519 --> 00:39:12.239
the knocking, like, well, that's what I heard, So I

609
00:39:12.239 --> 00:39:15.239
guess I've had several experiences with them, But that that

610
00:39:15.400 --> 00:39:19.000
night in the spotlight's on the truck, that was that

611
00:39:19.000 --> 00:39:20.840
that kind of made the believer out of me, whether

612
00:39:20.880 --> 00:39:21.800
I wanted to be or not.

613
00:39:22.079 --> 00:39:27.280
You know, oh, absolutely, And what what year did you say?

614
00:39:27.280 --> 00:39:27.599
That was?

615
00:39:28.719 --> 00:39:28.880
Oh?

616
00:39:28.960 --> 00:39:32.559
That had been uh, that had been ninety nine.

617
00:39:33.440 --> 00:39:40.199
Okay, gotcha November. Are you do you feel comfortable sharing

618
00:39:40.519 --> 00:39:45.679
the general area or just leave it to Olympic National Parking?

619
00:39:46.199 --> 00:39:48.159
Yeah, I'm fine with that. That was in grays Harbor,

620
00:39:48.920 --> 00:39:49.159
I was.

621
00:39:49.599 --> 00:39:54.599
Yeah, grays Harbor problem from Aberdeen to a Westport where

622
00:39:54.599 --> 00:39:58.480
I was living, and that grays Harbor is full of

623
00:39:58.519 --> 00:40:00.119
it evidently.

624
00:40:00.760 --> 00:40:02.840
You know, one hundred percent. I mean there's so much

625
00:40:02.880 --> 00:40:05.159
activity in Grace Harper it is wild.

626
00:40:05.800 --> 00:40:08.840
Yeah. And now I don't know if there's something you

627
00:40:08.920 --> 00:40:11.480
want to use, if it means much to you, but

628
00:40:11.639 --> 00:40:17.719
to me, I was raised in an environment where I

629
00:40:17.760 --> 00:40:21.039
don't know, maybe I'm saying too much, but I know

630
00:40:21.119 --> 00:40:24.079
a lot of people that had some spiritual problems if

631
00:40:24.119 --> 00:40:29.400
you make sense demonic issues, and there's a type there's

632
00:40:29.440 --> 00:40:32.679
a type of fear when you're in the presence or

633
00:40:32.760 --> 00:40:36.599
experiencing having a demonic experience. It's like a certain strain

634
00:40:36.679 --> 00:40:40.320
of fear that is unique to that type of enron

635
00:40:40.519 --> 00:40:44.519
set situation. And that's what hit me when I saw him,

636
00:40:45.760 --> 00:40:48.760
and I had that same I don't know how I'll

637
00:40:48.800 --> 00:40:52.360
say it, flavor tight of fear when I saw him,

638
00:40:53.360 --> 00:40:56.840
And so I don't know. I've always wondered maybe there's

639
00:40:56.840 --> 00:40:59.360
some kind of connection, but I don't know, you know,

640
00:40:59.400 --> 00:41:02.719
it's just it was just maybe it's just responding to

641
00:41:02.800 --> 00:41:06.039
something I don't understand, and that's how I responded. So

642
00:41:06.119 --> 00:41:09.280
maybe just on my part, I don't know if that

643
00:41:09.480 --> 00:41:14.000
was a result of the type of influence I was

644
00:41:14.039 --> 00:41:17.679
falling under or just my reaction to the unknown.

645
00:41:17.719 --> 00:41:20.360
You know, that's really interesting.

646
00:41:20.719 --> 00:41:23.719
Yeah, that was interesting to me. I've never really sort

647
00:41:23.719 --> 00:41:24.639
of through that entirely.

648
00:41:24.760 --> 00:41:32.079
But a question for you, just in case you know anything,

649
00:41:32.159 --> 00:41:35.280
because you're from that area, have you heard of anything

650
00:41:35.519 --> 00:41:37.199
up by the Lake Cushman.

651
00:41:36.840 --> 00:41:41.320
Area, Cushman. I didn't spend too much time around Cushman.

652
00:41:44.840 --> 00:41:48.079
I have a similar story, and I don't know. It

653
00:41:48.159 --> 00:41:49.880
was my grandfather, if you want to hear it, if

654
00:41:49.880 --> 00:41:53.159
you got a moment, yeah, absolutely, Okay. He was a

655
00:41:53.400 --> 00:41:58.199
hunting or he was fishing up north. Oh what's the

656
00:41:58.239 --> 00:42:03.760
name that lake that was just south of a Tahola

657
00:42:04.679 --> 00:42:08.840
the reds up there, and uh, I can't remember the

658
00:42:08.880 --> 00:42:11.239
name of that lake. But anyway, he was out there fishing,

659
00:42:12.000 --> 00:42:14.000
got dark, and he loaded his stuff and backed his

660
00:42:14.039 --> 00:42:15.880
truck or in the small parking lot to try and

661
00:42:15.920 --> 00:42:19.719
get to go home. And he back accidentally backed the

662
00:42:19.800 --> 00:42:26.199
tires of his pickup off the parking lot there, and

663
00:42:27.239 --> 00:42:30.639
so here he's out middle of nowhere, stuck. He couldn't

664
00:42:30.639 --> 00:42:34.960
get the tires started spinning out. He was stuck. So

665
00:42:35.000 --> 00:42:36.639
he's trying to figure out how to get out of there.

666
00:42:37.719 --> 00:42:38.199
And uh.

667
00:42:39.079 --> 00:42:41.800
While he's back there with a shovel trying to do

668
00:42:41.880 --> 00:42:45.880
something whatever he could, he said, some fella come out

669
00:42:45.880 --> 00:42:48.000
of the woods. And he was he was huge, he

670
00:42:48.079 --> 00:42:50.639
was like seven foot tall, just a giant of a man.

671
00:42:51.719 --> 00:42:54.039
And but it was dark, so he couldn't see him

672
00:42:54.079 --> 00:42:57.000
real clearly, I'm his pitch black. The guy never went

673
00:42:57.039 --> 00:42:58.320
around in front of the truck, so it was kind

674
00:42:58.320 --> 00:43:00.760
of by the light the light of the tail lights

675
00:43:01.480 --> 00:43:04.400
of the pickup. And the guy just walked out of

676
00:43:04.400 --> 00:43:08.559
the woods. Great big h he said, he's built like

677
00:43:08.599 --> 00:43:11.400
an eight. But it was a man, and he just

678
00:43:11.400 --> 00:43:13.400
thought it was some kind of a hermit or something.

679
00:43:13.480 --> 00:43:16.239
Sometimes you get people who just they're kind of odd,

680
00:43:16.400 --> 00:43:18.239
or they move out in the woods and be a

681
00:43:18.239 --> 00:43:21.880
hermit so they don't fit into society, and that there's

682
00:43:22.079 --> 00:43:24.440
more comfortable there. So he assumed that's sort of fell

683
00:43:24.559 --> 00:43:28.960
it was. He never said a word to him, walked out, helped,

684
00:43:29.159 --> 00:43:30.840
just leaned up against the back of this truck and

685
00:43:30.880 --> 00:43:32.760
shoved it a foot or two forward to get him

686
00:43:32.800 --> 00:43:34.320
up on the solid and turn around and walk back

687
00:43:34.360 --> 00:43:35.679
in woods. And never said a word to him.

688
00:43:36.519 --> 00:43:36.960
No way.

689
00:43:37.159 --> 00:43:41.920
So that would have been just south of Tahola, up

690
00:43:41.920 --> 00:43:44.480
on the reds there. So I look him back. I

691
00:43:44.559 --> 00:43:47.360
wondered if it wasn't a sash squash or a big

692
00:43:47.360 --> 00:43:49.599
foot or whatever you want to call it, you know, but.

693
00:43:50.239 --> 00:43:53.559
Yeah, I mean it would make sense. But yeah, so

694
00:43:53.599 --> 00:43:55.559
that's up on the Quinault Reservation.

695
00:43:55.840 --> 00:43:57.840
Yeah, yeah, been right around there.

696
00:43:57.920 --> 00:44:01.639
Yeah. Oh my goodness. Wow. I appreciate you coming up

697
00:44:01.719 --> 00:44:06.760
and sharing your encounter and your story and what you've heard.

698
00:44:07.880 --> 00:44:10.119
It's such a cool area. I mean, there's so much

699
00:44:10.159 --> 00:44:12.960
that happens up in that area. But I appreciate you

700
00:44:13.000 --> 00:44:13.800
coming up Nitroe.

701
00:44:13.960 --> 00:44:14.360
Yeah.

702
00:44:14.760 --> 00:44:17.079
Yeah, well you're welcome. I just kind of stumbled across

703
00:44:17.119 --> 00:44:21.440
your site and that i'd share with you, And I'm

704
00:44:21.440 --> 00:44:23.320
glad I got to tell somebody. I guess I don't

705
00:44:23.320 --> 00:44:25.079
tell a whole lot of folks. I think you're nuts,

706
00:44:25.119 --> 00:44:27.880
you know, but I thought I just thought I was

707
00:44:27.960 --> 00:44:31.559
nuts until I saw it myself. Maybe you know. I

708
00:44:31.559 --> 00:44:32.440
don't know what to think.

709
00:44:32.280 --> 00:44:35.960
Now, But you're not nuts, man, You're just in a special,

710
00:44:36.320 --> 00:44:39.559
special club of people. So I hope you're able to

711
00:44:39.639 --> 00:44:42.000
hang out in uh for a little bit. But you

712
00:44:42.039 --> 00:44:43.039
have a good one, sir.

713
00:44:43.239 --> 00:44:44.840
All right, you too, Thank you?

714
00:44:45.760 --> 00:44:47.280
Goodbye?

715
00:44:48.960 --> 00:44:51.559
Good stuff man, Oh my goodness, is some good, good

716
00:44:51.559 --> 00:44:56.400
accounts from from the Pacific Northwest?

717
00:44:57.000 --> 00:44:57.199
Hither.

718
00:44:57.360 --> 00:44:58.840
How's how's it going good?

719
00:44:58.840 --> 00:45:00.119
How's it going with you?

720
00:45:00.519 --> 00:45:00.719
Hey?

721
00:45:00.840 --> 00:45:03.360
Doing good? Feel free to share what you've come up

722
00:45:03.400 --> 00:45:04.079
to share today.

723
00:45:05.280 --> 00:45:06.239
I live in Canada.

724
00:45:07.039 --> 00:45:10.639
I spent most of my time fishing and hunting, and

725
00:45:10.760 --> 00:45:16.840
I've come across. My first experience, I was sixteen. I

726
00:45:16.920 --> 00:45:20.880
was out on a date. I was near Blind River, Ontario, Ontario,

727
00:45:21.119 --> 00:45:23.000
Northern Ontario.

728
00:45:23.360 --> 00:45:24.840
And that was before was built up.

729
00:45:26.400 --> 00:45:30.760
And me and my girlfriend we were parked, you know,

730
00:45:30.880 --> 00:45:36.000
just eating some submarines, and then I got out to

731
00:45:36.039 --> 00:45:40.039
google washing and come back in into the car. It

732
00:45:40.119 --> 00:45:43.280
was pitch black, nothing around, couldn't see anything, and then

733
00:45:43.440 --> 00:45:46.360
all of a sudden we heard this roar and it

734
00:45:46.440 --> 00:45:49.559
was such a loud roar that it was vibrating my chest.

735
00:45:49.800 --> 00:45:52.000
And you know those smaller cars, they used to have

736
00:45:53.239 --> 00:45:56.519
a speaker in the front just by the window, the

737
00:45:56.559 --> 00:45:59.800
older cars. It was vibrating that and I told her

738
00:46:00.199 --> 00:46:03.000
off the radio was vibrating. She said, the radio is off,

739
00:46:04.039 --> 00:46:05.519
and I said, we better get out of here. And

740
00:46:05.559 --> 00:46:08.199
there was such a route in My chest was vibrating

741
00:46:08.239 --> 00:46:14.079
from this alba roar. So that was my first experience.

742
00:46:15.159 --> 00:46:16.599
I don't know what it was. I don't think it

743
00:46:16.599 --> 00:46:18.280
was a bear. There's no way it could have been

744
00:46:18.320 --> 00:46:21.960
a bear. I'm pretty sure it was a bigfoot. And

745
00:46:22.000 --> 00:46:25.079
then I had to I researched that area and later

746
00:46:25.159 --> 00:46:29.480
on found that there was settings around that area. My

747
00:46:30.400 --> 00:46:36.800
second one was in the early late nineteen eighties. I

748
00:46:36.920 --> 00:46:39.440
used to go hunting up I'm not going to tell

749
00:46:39.480 --> 00:46:42.159
you where, but we used to go up hunting a

750
00:46:42.199 --> 00:46:42.960
bunch of us.

751
00:46:42.840 --> 00:46:44.880
Guys and we had a cabin.

752
00:46:44.599 --> 00:46:47.519
Up there, and we come out in the morning. It

753
00:46:47.639 --> 00:46:49.519
was just fresh snow on the ground, about two inches

754
00:46:49.519 --> 00:46:52.519
of snow, and I seen.

755
00:46:52.280 --> 00:46:56.079
These tracks, and these tracks crossed.

756
00:46:55.719 --> 00:47:01.639
The field, and I'm wondering, Holy geez, there's fifteen inches

757
00:47:01.679 --> 00:47:04.760
long these tracks. I'm going Jesus, that's kind of weird.

758
00:47:05.559 --> 00:47:10.440
So I look across the field for where these tracks were,

759
00:47:11.039 --> 00:47:11.880
and something.

760
00:47:11.679 --> 00:47:13.199
Was watching me behind the trees.

761
00:47:13.239 --> 00:47:15.719
I could see it behind the trees, and then when

762
00:47:15.760 --> 00:47:19.559
I started this step forward, it took off just like

763
00:47:19.599 --> 00:47:23.000
a bird would take off so fast. And then I

764
00:47:23.039 --> 00:47:26.719
could hear it thumping on the ground, running and I

765
00:47:26.719 --> 00:47:29.519
could hear it run run and thump, thump, dump dump

766
00:47:29.559 --> 00:47:32.480
as it was running. So I went and I started

767
00:47:32.480 --> 00:47:34.320
falling the tracks. I had a rifle with me, so

768
00:47:34.360 --> 00:47:38.320
I wasn't scared or nothing. I didn't plan on shooting it,

769
00:47:38.400 --> 00:47:41.920
that's for sure, but I was curious. So then I

770
00:47:41.960 --> 00:47:45.800
started seeing the tracks, and the tracks were like I'm

771
00:47:46.000 --> 00:47:50.199
physically I was physically fit back then. I could, you know,

772
00:47:50.280 --> 00:47:52.119
do just anything about the track or field. It was

773
00:47:52.159 --> 00:47:54.760
making larger leaps than I could do. I tried to

774
00:47:54.760 --> 00:47:57.760
recreate their leaps, but it was like a ten foot

775
00:47:57.840 --> 00:48:02.000
leap from one foot to the next to the next one.

776
00:48:02.199 --> 00:48:05.960
And then it got down to the end of to

777
00:48:06.039 --> 00:48:10.599
a tree line and then there was footprints there.

778
00:48:10.400 --> 00:48:13.159
But then it vanished. There was no there was a

779
00:48:13.199 --> 00:48:17.280
creek there, but it was all branches were all cut

780
00:48:17.280 --> 00:48:22.440
in and they were The tracks just vanished right there.

781
00:48:22.960 --> 00:48:25.199
It was like snow on the ground, but I couldn't

782
00:48:25.199 --> 00:48:27.440
see any tracks anywhere around. I went all the way

783
00:48:27.480 --> 00:48:30.559
around and it was like it just vanished, and I'm going,

784
00:48:30.679 --> 00:48:33.800
how could that be? You could see the tracks of

785
00:48:33.840 --> 00:48:36.280
it where it was running, but then it came to

786
00:48:36.320 --> 00:48:39.760
a spot and it just sort of vanished, which was

787
00:48:39.840 --> 00:48:42.119
kind of weird, and you see in the tracks there's

788
00:48:42.119 --> 00:48:45.000
no way it could have went anywhere. They couldn't climbed

789
00:48:45.000 --> 00:48:47.199
the tree because there's no trees that were near it

790
00:48:47.239 --> 00:48:49.079
because it was down a trail where it was running.

791
00:48:51.000 --> 00:48:54.920
That was a weird one. Yeah, I couldn't And then

792
00:48:55.400 --> 00:48:57.039
the next time same.

793
00:48:57.079 --> 00:49:01.199
Well, similar spot just about a mile further in the bush.

794
00:49:01.840 --> 00:49:05.480
It was muddy. It was very muddy. So all of

795
00:49:05.480 --> 00:49:08.960
a sudden I seen these tracks. And that was back

796
00:49:08.960 --> 00:49:11.159
in the two thousands, and I forgot my camera at

797
00:49:11.159 --> 00:49:13.960
the time to take pictures of deer if we got

798
00:49:14.000 --> 00:49:14.519
any deer.

799
00:49:16.079 --> 00:49:17.159
There was tracks in the.

800
00:49:17.159 --> 00:49:22.880
Mud that went down about eight inches to a foot

801
00:49:23.400 --> 00:49:25.760
and it was deep.

802
00:49:25.800 --> 00:49:28.119
These it was walking in a certain way.

803
00:49:28.199 --> 00:49:31.519
So the reasonable how I know how bigfoot walks is

804
00:49:32.480 --> 00:49:35.119
they walk one foot in front of the other. They

805
00:49:35.119 --> 00:49:38.639
don't walk like humans, they do not. They walk one

806
00:49:38.639 --> 00:49:41.320
foot in front of the other. And what I seen

807
00:49:41.639 --> 00:49:44.320
in the mud, and I walked beside the mud to

808
00:49:44.360 --> 00:49:47.079
make sure there was no other tracks around that. I

809
00:49:47.119 --> 00:49:50.480
only went in about two inches maybe two inches, so

810
00:49:50.519 --> 00:49:53.159
whatever this was was really heavy to go in at

811
00:49:53.239 --> 00:49:58.440
least ten inches or more. I was astounded. I got

812
00:49:58.480 --> 00:50:00.920
the Honty buddies and they all took a look at

813
00:50:01.000 --> 00:50:04.000
it and they said, holy geez. Well, you know, but

814
00:50:05.079 --> 00:50:06.920
a lot of us that we didn't bring cameras back then,

815
00:50:06.960 --> 00:50:12.199
we just you know. That was another one. And then

816
00:50:12.880 --> 00:50:18.119
the first exact sighting that was below Sudbury, Sudbury, Ontario

817
00:50:18.360 --> 00:50:22.519
in Canada, and I was fishing on the lake, a

818
00:50:22.559 --> 00:50:25.239
remote lake that's about a half an hour drive from

819
00:50:25.239 --> 00:50:29.960
the main highway, and it was a hot day. It

820
00:50:30.039 --> 00:50:34.199
was in September, and I was fishing and I looked

821
00:50:34.280 --> 00:50:38.400
up and I seen this black thing, and this thing

822
00:50:38.480 --> 00:50:40.519
is looking at me and it's all black, and I'm wondering,

823
00:50:40.719 --> 00:50:44.360
that's weird. It's got to be it's got to be

824
00:50:44.400 --> 00:50:48.679
like eighty five degrees fahrenheit. Why would somebody be wearing

825
00:50:48.719 --> 00:50:51.480
a jacket or something that when it's this hot. It

826
00:50:51.559 --> 00:50:56.000
was like extremely hot for September. And so I got

827
00:50:56.039 --> 00:50:58.159
the binos from the boat and I was looking and

828
00:50:58.199 --> 00:51:00.360
all of a sudden I seen the face and the

829
00:51:00.400 --> 00:51:02.559
body and the hair and everything, and it was like.

830
00:51:03.360 --> 00:51:06.519
I was disappointed at the face. It was a juvenile.

831
00:51:06.519 --> 00:51:07.960
I was about about six feet tall.

832
00:51:08.960 --> 00:51:12.199
I was disappointed in the face that I'm thinking, you know,

833
00:51:12.320 --> 00:51:14.159
like the face behind you it would look like No,

834
00:51:14.239 --> 00:51:17.519
it didn't look like that. It had like you know

835
00:51:17.599 --> 00:51:20.079
those BC totem poles that you see in at the

836
00:51:20.159 --> 00:51:23.800
highest where they have the oval mouth, big oval mouth.

837
00:51:24.280 --> 00:51:26.800
Well that's what it had. It had a big oval.

838
00:51:26.480 --> 00:51:29.360
Mouth like that. I'm going, well, that's kind of weird.

839
00:51:29.800 --> 00:51:31.840
You know, I had little furry hair on top of

840
00:51:31.920 --> 00:51:34.559
its head and like like it did by the big

841
00:51:34.599 --> 00:51:38.159
old mouth like those totem poles that I've seen. I'm

842
00:51:38.199 --> 00:51:41.719
going I was expecting something like this, so it's behind you,

843
00:51:41.840 --> 00:51:46.119
but no, I was kind of weird. So I monitored

844
00:51:46.239 --> 00:51:49.119
for about and I was about two hundred yards from

845
00:51:49.199 --> 00:51:55.320
the creature with the binos, and I watched it until

846
00:51:55.360 --> 00:51:57.239
it just walked away into the bush. I think it

847
00:51:57.320 --> 00:51:59.079
was heading down to the water get a drink because

848
00:51:59.119 --> 00:52:04.920
it was very hot there. So those are my experiences.

849
00:52:05.679 --> 00:52:09.880
So incredible. I want to comment on that last one.

850
00:52:10.519 --> 00:52:16.519
Literally earlier today and last night, I've been having this

851
00:52:17.280 --> 00:52:21.880
internal thought where it's like, okay, so if you've got

852
00:52:21.920 --> 00:52:27.480
all these carvings of the sasquatch faces with the lips

853
00:52:27.519 --> 00:52:31.760
that are looked like they're whistling, why aren't witnesses saying

854
00:52:31.920 --> 00:52:34.760
that they're seeing that. Yeah, And it was kind of

855
00:52:34.760 --> 00:52:37.840
messing with me. And this is important because you're the

856
00:52:37.880 --> 00:52:41.320
first person in five years that has told me that

857
00:52:41.480 --> 00:52:44.679
what I saw looked exactly what's on those what's on

858
00:52:44.719 --> 00:52:45.519
those totem poles.

859
00:52:45.599 --> 00:52:47.599
Yeah, that's that's where it was huge.

860
00:52:48.320 --> 00:52:50.400
Yeah, it kind of really blew me away. I was

861
00:52:50.880 --> 00:52:53.719
kind of disappointed. But that big oval mouth, I was wondering,

862
00:52:54.199 --> 00:52:56.199
and it wasn't that tall. It was about six feet

863
00:52:56.360 --> 00:53:00.159
It wasn't huge, but it was covered in fur. And

864
00:53:00.800 --> 00:53:02.639
the only reason I figure was down there was get

865
00:53:02.679 --> 00:53:05.000
a drink of water because it was very hot that day.

866
00:53:07.760 --> 00:53:13.280
My goodness, what you saw were the so in the carvings,

867
00:53:13.320 --> 00:53:16.320
the lips are usually pretty big, were they? Was the

868
00:53:16.400 --> 00:53:17.719
mouth pretty big as well?

869
00:53:17.840 --> 00:53:18.199
Or yeah?

870
00:53:18.239 --> 00:53:20.559
The mouth was big, big oval And I was going,

871
00:53:20.719 --> 00:53:23.880
this is weird, Like it's not like the one behind you.

872
00:53:23.960 --> 00:53:26.760
It was like an oval mouth. And I'm going, well,

873
00:53:26.800 --> 00:53:28.800
it can't be a mask. You can't be somebody putting

874
00:53:28.800 --> 00:53:31.119
on something. And I'm going, who would do that?

875
00:53:31.119 --> 00:53:31.199
That?

876
00:53:31.679 --> 00:53:36.800
You know? Was being that hot? M hm right right.

877
00:53:36.840 --> 00:53:39.159
And I was in the middle of nowhere, so basically

878
00:53:39.559 --> 00:53:42.559
half an hour drive and there was nobody around, like

879
00:53:42.679 --> 00:53:43.599
it's a remote lake.

880
00:53:46.239 --> 00:53:48.679
It's fascinating stuff. Do you remember the shape of its

881
00:53:48.679 --> 00:53:49.199
head at all?

882
00:53:52.079 --> 00:53:55.159
The head was was was kind of roundish but.

883
00:53:55.800 --> 00:54:01.440
Okay, but I could tell juvenile. It wasn't that big,

884
00:54:02.480 --> 00:54:04.440
but it was on the rocks. I wanted to go

885
00:54:04.639 --> 00:54:07.800
explore to see the footprints, but it was on rocks

886
00:54:07.840 --> 00:54:11.320
at the time when I seen it, and I didn't

887
00:54:11.360 --> 00:54:13.280
see any footprints when I went over there to go

888
00:54:13.400 --> 00:54:17.480
check it out after. But it was looking at me

889
00:54:17.519 --> 00:54:19.320
as I was looking at you, because he must have

890
00:54:19.320 --> 00:54:22.840
been astounded by me, because then I was astounded by

891
00:54:22.880 --> 00:54:26.440
him because I never seen something like that with an

892
00:54:26.440 --> 00:54:29.320
oval mouth, and I'm thinking, Wow, it doesn't look like

893
00:54:29.360 --> 00:54:33.039
a real bigfoot like you see on the pictures that

894
00:54:33.079 --> 00:54:34.960
you see on the internet.

895
00:54:36.199 --> 00:54:41.599
Right well, I mean, I guess the question is what israel?

896
00:54:41.880 --> 00:54:44.320
Is it all these pictures were seeing on the internet,

897
00:54:44.480 --> 00:54:48.280
or is it what's been captured in things like totem

898
00:54:48.280 --> 00:54:50.400
poles from forms past?

899
00:54:50.599 --> 00:54:50.840
You know?

900
00:54:50.920 --> 00:54:53.719
And it's something to think about and your story backs

901
00:54:53.719 --> 00:54:57.079
it up. So it's very cool. Thank you for coming

902
00:54:57.159 --> 00:55:05.880
up anytime. Thanks good stuff. Oh my goodness, that was incredible.

903
00:55:06.039 --> 00:55:07.039
Hey Kent, how are you?

904
00:55:07.880 --> 00:55:08.360
How are you doing?

905
00:55:09.800 --> 00:55:12.519
Hey? Doing good? Feel free to share what you've come

906
00:55:12.599 --> 00:55:13.119
up to share.

907
00:55:18.440 --> 00:55:23.119
My first one, I was really, really, really young, so

908
00:55:23.440 --> 00:55:27.480
I can't even substantiate if it was real.

909
00:55:27.239 --> 00:55:31.920
Or not, but it was in a putney.

910
00:55:31.639 --> 00:55:35.639
Or mom oh snap, really yeah.

911
00:55:35.320 --> 00:55:38.400
And back in my day used to be able to

912
00:55:38.639 --> 00:55:40.719
like stuff kids in the back of the station wagon.

913
00:55:40.880 --> 00:55:42.880
And that's what we were doing when we were camping.

914
00:55:43.920 --> 00:55:46.320
The adults were in the trailer, the teens were intense,

915
00:55:46.400 --> 00:55:49.360
and the little ones were locked inside the back of

916
00:55:49.440 --> 00:55:53.440
the station wagons in the backseat. I woke up early morning,

917
00:55:53.559 --> 00:55:56.920
like five four point thirty five, you know that blue

918
00:55:57.360 --> 00:56:00.480
kind of dawn, dusky kind of time.

919
00:56:01.480 --> 00:56:01.800
Yeah.

920
00:56:02.440 --> 00:56:05.760
Yeah, And my head was towards the back of the

921
00:56:05.800 --> 00:56:10.159
station wagon. And when I woke up, there was something

922
00:56:10.239 --> 00:56:12.159
with a face looking down at me.

923
00:56:13.119 --> 00:56:13.679
No way.

924
00:56:14.239 --> 00:56:18.280
Yeah, I was probably seven slash maybe eight years old.

925
00:56:19.360 --> 00:56:21.559
Oh my goodness. What year was this ken.

926
00:56:22.760 --> 00:56:26.360
We're talking maybe eighty two?

927
00:56:27.800 --> 00:56:31.199
Oh my goodness. Do you know where Northfield is in mass.

928
00:56:32.400 --> 00:56:33.039
Northfield?

929
00:56:33.840 --> 00:56:37.679
Yeah, not exactly, do you know?

930
00:56:37.960 --> 00:56:38.039
Uh?

931
00:56:38.800 --> 00:56:39.800
So I drive Oh.

932
00:56:39.840 --> 00:56:44.039
Okay, okay, So I grew up about half an hour

933
00:56:44.159 --> 00:56:46.519
south of where you're talking. So I'm very familiar with

934
00:56:46.559 --> 00:56:47.599
the area.

935
00:56:47.800 --> 00:56:50.960
Okay, so you're up like the Greenfield area.

936
00:56:50.960 --> 00:56:55.159
Or yeah, it's like fifteen minutes north of Greenfield. Yep.

937
00:56:55.679 --> 00:56:56.000
Nice?

938
00:56:56.880 --> 00:56:59.599
Yeah, wow, do you remember?

939
00:57:00.039 --> 00:57:00.159
Uh?

940
00:57:00.880 --> 00:57:04.000
Go ahead, I'm just saying how it's it's a nice

941
00:57:04.039 --> 00:57:07.719
wooded area. And I mean, people don't think the East

942
00:57:07.760 --> 00:57:11.559
coast has a lot of them, but they do absolutely.

943
00:57:13.440 --> 00:57:14.679
We have the Appalachian Trail.

944
00:57:15.760 --> 00:57:18.800
Yeah, yeah, it's it's a great area. Do you remember

945
00:57:19.199 --> 00:57:22.119
any details about what you saw in that face that

946
00:57:22.199 --> 00:57:22.960
was so close to you?

947
00:57:24.119 --> 00:57:27.800
Strangely enough, I could sketch it out for you.

948
00:57:27.880 --> 00:57:29.320
But this is the strange thing.

949
00:57:29.360 --> 00:57:34.400
Do you know that guy up in Canada who everybody

950
00:57:34.760 --> 00:57:35.280
talked to me?

951
00:57:35.880 --> 00:57:36.760
Yes, there you go.

952
00:57:36.960 --> 00:57:38.880
Yeah, you know the one.

953
00:57:38.679 --> 00:57:42.760
Big foot that's uh it has a very flat looking

954
00:57:42.880 --> 00:57:45.440
face and it's like a Tinian color.

955
00:57:48.079 --> 00:57:50.599
Yes, I do exactly know what you're talking about.

956
00:57:50.800 --> 00:57:53.119
That exact big poot is what I saw.

957
00:57:54.559 --> 00:57:55.039
Wow.

958
00:57:55.400 --> 00:57:59.760
So when I when I actually ever came across that

959
00:58:01.119 --> 00:58:04.199
on the internet and I was like, oh my god,

960
00:58:04.880 --> 00:58:08.000
that was it was identical.

961
00:58:09.639 --> 00:58:16.039
My goodness. Yeah, wow, that's wild. I've never heard of

962
00:58:16.119 --> 00:58:20.599
any sightings by Putney or Bradborough or that whole area.

963
00:58:20.679 --> 00:58:21.480
That is really cool.

964
00:58:22.159 --> 00:58:24.760
Yeah.

965
00:58:24.800 --> 00:58:27.000
Did anyone else in the car see it as well?

966
00:58:27.960 --> 00:58:28.159
No?

967
00:58:29.000 --> 00:58:32.079
No, My cousin was with me and my other cousin was.

968
00:58:32.079 --> 00:58:37.440
In the like the middle seat, and they just I

969
00:58:37.440 --> 00:58:39.480
think I think my cousin Dave woke up when I

970
00:58:39.559 --> 00:58:44.079
kind of like it's stream but I like really like jumped,

971
00:58:44.159 --> 00:58:45.880
like to like get away from the window.

972
00:58:47.880 --> 00:58:50.280
Yeah. Oh my goodness.

973
00:58:50.880 --> 00:58:59.199
Yeah, so so that and you were young, and you

974
00:58:59.239 --> 00:59:02.519
were young, so that must have affected you pretty pretty wild.

975
00:59:03.400 --> 00:59:05.000
Yeah yeah, And.

976
00:59:06.960 --> 00:59:09.599
I mean for for many many years until I had

977
00:59:09.760 --> 00:59:13.639
like other encounters with I've never seen one again, but

978
00:59:14.000 --> 00:59:16.639
there's been you know, the knocking and and because I'm

979
00:59:16.960 --> 00:59:22.000
avid camper and hunter and stuff, so the other signs

980
00:59:22.000 --> 00:59:26.039
are there. But that was I would call that like

981
00:59:26.199 --> 00:59:27.400
they call it a class egg.

982
00:59:29.079 --> 00:59:37.360
Oh yeah, I mean absolutely yeah.

983
00:59:34.480 --> 00:59:35.719
And I'd love to see it again.

984
00:59:35.760 --> 00:59:39.239
But that's you know, as it's just like you want

985
00:59:39.280 --> 00:59:40.400
to but then you don't want to.

986
00:59:41.440 --> 00:59:45.400
Sure, Yeah, where were you experiencing wood knocks?

987
00:59:47.000 --> 00:59:49.719
That was when we camped up in a New Thane Vermond.

988
00:59:50.880 --> 00:59:56.440
Okay, yep, yep, that's awesome.

989
00:59:56.960 --> 00:59:59.960
That was actually my same cousin was there.

990
01:00:00.079 --> 01:00:04.079
Again, we were much older now where this is like

991
01:00:04.119 --> 01:00:08.119
when we're adults, and uh, neither one of us could

992
01:00:08.159 --> 01:00:11.639
go to sleep in our tents because we we talked

993
01:00:11.639 --> 01:00:13.199
about it the morning over coffee.

994
01:00:13.239 --> 01:00:15.440
We thought it was like deer fighting in the woods.

995
01:00:18.079 --> 01:00:23.119
Oh my goodness. I'll tell you what I've only heard

996
01:00:23.280 --> 01:00:27.320
from people and from Vermont two times in five years.

997
01:00:27.800 --> 01:00:32.000
Oh wow, Yeah, it's very rare. It's extremely rare.

998
01:00:35.400 --> 01:00:39.639
And then the my third and final one so far

999
01:00:40.840 --> 01:00:44.119
up in Vermont anyway, because because it seems like when

1000
01:00:44.159 --> 01:00:49.480
you when they let you see them, or like when

1001
01:00:49.480 --> 01:00:52.880
they let you see or acknowledge them, they kind of

1002
01:00:52.920 --> 01:00:57.440
mark you. So you're prone to have more fightings or

1003
01:00:57.599 --> 01:01:01.360
more experiences. So my last one in Vermont, we were

1004
01:01:01.400 --> 01:01:04.039
again camping and everybody had retired.

1005
01:01:04.119 --> 01:01:08.519
It was probably about two thirty am in now Pane and.

1006
01:01:08.760 --> 01:01:11.280
My wife's best friend was on a blow mattress by

1007
01:01:11.320 --> 01:01:14.800
the fire, and I was sitting on the picnic table

1008
01:01:15.840 --> 01:01:19.760
like like my butt on the top of the table

1009
01:01:19.920 --> 01:01:23.960
and like just watching the fire keeping it going, and uh,

1010
01:01:24.920 --> 01:01:28.039
out of the woods there was like it was like

1011
01:01:28.480 --> 01:01:32.000
right upon us, and it was like three big like

1012
01:01:33.519 --> 01:01:36.920
exhale blows like like something kind of like what.

1013
01:01:36.880 --> 01:01:37.559
A deer would do.

1014
01:01:38.159 --> 01:01:40.800
But like I said, I'm a hunter and I've been

1015
01:01:40.880 --> 01:01:44.960
blown at by a dough before and it's not insane.

1016
01:01:46.159 --> 01:01:47.960
So I jumped down off the picnic table.

1017
01:01:48.119 --> 01:01:49.880
I grabbed her out of a dead sleep, and I

1018
01:01:49.960 --> 01:01:53.039
yanked her up onto the picnic table with me, and

1019
01:01:53.119 --> 01:01:56.000
she got to hear the three blows again with her

1020
01:01:56.000 --> 01:01:58.480
own ears, and then.

1021
01:02:00.119 --> 01:02:04.639
Thing left nothing. We couldn't hear nothing, move away. It

1022
01:02:04.760 --> 01:02:05.360
was silent.

1023
01:02:07.360 --> 01:02:09.840
It was like not like a bear or a moose

1024
01:02:09.840 --> 01:02:13.199
circling camp. It was just that instance and it was

1025
01:02:13.239 --> 01:02:13.960
done and over with.

1026
01:02:16.360 --> 01:02:20.519
My goodness, that's that's intense. You know the area I

1027
01:02:20.559 --> 01:02:25.199
do get stuff from is you know Glastonbury Mountain.

1028
01:02:25.840 --> 01:02:27.960
Oh yeah, that's a hot spot, a triangle.

1029
01:02:28.039 --> 01:02:31.880
Oh yeah, I've gotten, yeah, exactly, Bennington Triangle, I've gotten.

1030
01:02:32.840 --> 01:02:38.440
I'm up to three different things, actually two different people

1031
01:02:38.760 --> 01:02:39.400
contacting me.

1032
01:02:39.480 --> 01:02:39.719
Now.

1033
01:02:40.679 --> 01:02:44.760
For Glastonbury, it's pretty wild, but that's just west of

1034
01:02:45.840 --> 01:02:46.920
where you're talking about.

1035
01:02:47.679 --> 01:02:48.679
Yeah kind of.

1036
01:02:48.920 --> 01:02:51.360
But well, where my father in law's land was where

1037
01:02:51.360 --> 01:02:53.960
we camped Newfane is It was a dead end road

1038
01:02:54.400 --> 01:02:57.119
with like four or five six properties and then there

1039
01:02:57.199 --> 01:03:00.360
was this I guess you were kind of call like

1040
01:03:00.400 --> 01:03:05.039
a outdoorsy camp or something. It was called the Manitoba

1041
01:03:05.280 --> 01:03:06.679
Project or something.

1042
01:03:06.840 --> 01:03:07.920
And I think it's still there.

1043
01:03:08.400 --> 01:03:10.800
It's just like for people to get out in the

1044
01:03:10.840 --> 01:03:16.519
woods and enjoy nature. We experienced like rock stacking. To

1045
01:03:16.639 --> 01:03:18.519
wake up in the morning and there's four and five

1046
01:03:18.639 --> 01:03:19.880
rocks on top of each other.

1047
01:03:20.280 --> 01:03:21.639
It's like, what the heck.

1048
01:03:24.199 --> 01:03:27.360
Man, that's wild. Oh my goodness, can I'm so glad

1049
01:03:27.400 --> 01:03:31.599
you came up and shared. There's As I said, there's

1050
01:03:31.639 --> 01:03:34.599
not a lot of info about Vermont. This is good stuff.

1051
01:03:34.880 --> 01:03:38.800
Oh what years we were the New Fane incidents.

1052
01:03:38.239 --> 01:03:44.280
And I haven't written down at home. It was probably

1053
01:03:44.320 --> 01:03:46.039
like ninety four, ninety three.

1054
01:03:46.400 --> 01:03:50.199
Okay, that's probably up the one.

1055
01:03:50.079 --> 01:03:53.239
Where I pulled my wife's best friend up on the

1056
01:03:53.280 --> 01:03:53.880
picnic table.

1057
01:03:53.920 --> 01:03:56.119
That was actually pourth of July weekend.

1058
01:03:57.039 --> 01:04:03.000
Okay, Yeah, that's wild man. Dude, thank you so much

1059
01:04:03.039 --> 01:04:05.360
for coming off. I appreciate you sharing.

1060
01:04:05.519 --> 01:04:08.480
Good stuff all the time, so keep it coming.

1061
01:04:08.480 --> 01:04:14.119
Appreciate that you got it right, dude, that's so cool.

1062
01:04:14.199 --> 01:04:17.480
I love I love New England stuff because I don't

1063
01:04:17.519 --> 01:04:20.639
hear it a lot. Yeah, Metro, how's it going.

1064
01:04:21.519 --> 01:04:23.679
Sor right? So long story short.

1065
01:04:23.960 --> 01:04:27.480
When I was a kid, I got in trouble and uh,

1066
01:04:27.519 --> 01:04:32.039
they put me in a boys like program. If you

1067
01:04:32.159 --> 01:04:34.360
live in Florida, it's on the north side of the

1068
01:04:34.360 --> 01:04:38.280
Okachobe River out in the middle of nowhere. Seminal and

1069
01:04:38.679 --> 01:04:42.599
Mikasuki Indians like kind of ran it and you had

1070
01:04:42.639 --> 01:04:45.480
to stay there. For three months, and at the end

1071
01:04:45.519 --> 01:04:47.599
of those three months, they sent you out on something

1072
01:04:47.639 --> 01:04:51.039
called a solo. You ride blindfolded on the back of

1073
01:04:51.039 --> 01:04:54.400
a four wheeler out into the Okachobe Wilderness and you

1074
01:04:54.519 --> 01:04:57.760
have to survive for three days and three nights. So

1075
01:04:57.800 --> 01:05:03.760
I'm on there on my second day and I start

1076
01:05:03.800 --> 01:05:08.960
to smell like dead flesh, like like roadkill, kind of

1077
01:05:09.000 --> 01:05:11.519
like you know what, like decaying flesh, like an animal

1078
01:05:11.559 --> 01:05:12.360
that got ran over.

1079
01:05:12.840 --> 01:05:15.400
I start smelling at at night.

1080
01:05:17.039 --> 01:05:19.639
And at the daytime I would get up and try

1081
01:05:19.639 --> 01:05:22.519
to look for the carcass or whatever that smell was,

1082
01:05:22.559 --> 01:05:26.320
and I can never find nothing. So on the third

1083
01:05:26.440 --> 01:05:30.480
night of my solo, I smelt that smell again, like

1084
01:05:30.840 --> 01:05:32.719
I don't know what time it was, but it was

1085
01:05:32.719 --> 01:05:34.920
in the middle of the night. I had a little

1086
01:05:34.960 --> 01:05:39.719
campfire going where I was camped out at, like I

1087
01:05:39.719 --> 01:05:44.519
said that smell, And where I camped at there was

1088
01:05:44.559 --> 01:05:50.719
a canal, and I heard something step around my tent,

1089
01:05:52.719 --> 01:05:58.599
kicked my fire like grunt because it burnt its foot

1090
01:05:58.880 --> 01:06:02.519
and ran off, jump in the canal, climbed up the

1091
01:06:02.559 --> 01:06:05.599
other side of the bank, and you can you can

1092
01:06:05.719 --> 01:06:09.920
just hear it running through the I don't wouldn't say

1093
01:06:10.519 --> 01:06:13.320
swamp land, I guess like you would splashing it like

1094
01:06:13.400 --> 01:06:15.880
it was. It wasn't like like a four footed animal.

1095
01:06:15.920 --> 01:06:19.679
It sounded like a big human being, like running through

1096
01:06:19.760 --> 01:06:20.960
swamp swamp land.

1097
01:06:22.239 --> 01:06:26.960
And that's my story. Oh my goodness, that is really

1098
01:06:27.039 --> 01:06:30.480
really intense. Thank you for sharing that. Thank you for

1099
01:06:30.519 --> 01:06:32.639
coming up man, Thank you for the support as well.

1100
01:06:32.719 --> 01:06:35.599
I really appreciate it. All right, I appreciate you guys.

1101
01:06:36.800 --> 01:06:48.400
Thank you man. Oh my goodness, the hits keep on coming. Hey, justin,

1102
01:06:48.440 --> 01:06:49.920
how's it going good?

1103
01:06:50.039 --> 01:06:50.559
Can you hear me?

1104
01:06:51.519 --> 01:06:54.199
Yes, I can hear you. Feel free to share what

1105
01:06:54.360 --> 01:06:56.000
you have come up to share tonight.

1106
01:06:56.559 --> 01:07:02.360
Okay, I'm from northern BC, Canada. My people have only

1107
01:07:02.360 --> 01:07:04.599
been contacted. The town I live in it's only fifty

1108
01:07:04.639 --> 01:07:07.920
six years old. So we have some really old stories

1109
01:07:07.960 --> 01:07:11.119
that are people. I'm Heisler. We're people of the snow.

1110
01:07:12.440 --> 01:07:16.639
So I have a lot of stories, like knowledge that

1111
01:07:16.760 --> 01:07:20.360
husband passed down to me. So my grandmother had told

1112
01:07:20.360 --> 01:07:23.199
me about many different species the sasquatch, and you guys

1113
01:07:23.239 --> 01:07:26.239
were talking about the Oval mouth and those are basically

1114
01:07:26.239 --> 01:07:29.599
the juveniles out sasquatch. They change as they get bigger. Hey,

1115
01:07:30.400 --> 01:07:34.199
So in our stories, we have the oval mouths as well,

1116
01:07:34.840 --> 01:07:39.719
and we also have red hair. We call it booklusts.

1117
01:07:39.760 --> 01:07:45.000
They're like wild men. Then there's also the wild men,

1118
01:07:45.119 --> 01:07:49.039
like people will go overboard and when they get to

1119
01:07:49.199 --> 01:07:51.800
the shoreline, they're supposed to hug a tree and that

1120
01:07:51.920 --> 01:07:53.760
re grounds you to mother Earth, so you don't go,

1121
01:07:54.280 --> 01:07:57.679
you don't lose your mind, and that's how they get wild.

1122
01:07:59.039 --> 01:08:02.280
Some people yet wild in that manner. Then we have

1123
01:08:02.400 --> 01:08:06.039
a little tiny we call him quagile. They're like another

1124
01:08:06.199 --> 01:08:10.119
ape like creature that's probably about me height, and they're

1125
01:08:10.159 --> 01:08:14.920
like more like little spider monkeys with really sharp claws,

1126
01:08:14.960 --> 01:08:18.119
and they're hairy. They're like they look like little monkeys.

1127
01:08:18.680 --> 01:08:20.880
The story I'm going to tell you is when first

1128
01:08:20.920 --> 01:08:24.119
contact happened to my people in the early eighteen hundreds.

1129
01:08:24.560 --> 01:08:30.159
The Hudson Bay Trading Company was around, was around our

1130
01:08:30.239 --> 01:08:33.760
area for starting to open up, and the Queen's guards

1131
01:08:34.640 --> 01:08:38.239
were really after all the black bear for their hats,

1132
01:08:38.640 --> 01:08:44.439
so they gave our people our first rifles. We went out.

1133
01:08:44.479 --> 01:08:47.119
There's just one guy. They were going goat hunting and

1134
01:08:47.159 --> 01:08:49.359
they went to this one part where I'm from, it's

1135
01:08:49.399 --> 01:08:52.600
called Camano, and they went up to the rock and

1136
01:08:52.680 --> 01:08:55.359
he took a left. The other hivesleves went up to

1137
01:08:55.399 --> 01:08:59.119
the right, and we used to put sticks down that way.

1138
01:08:59.159 --> 01:09:01.399
If he went out and you got your catch, you

1139
01:09:01.439 --> 01:09:03.600
would come back to your canoe and you'd lay your

1140
01:09:03.600 --> 01:09:06.880
stick down saying you got out safely. The laugh two

1141
01:09:06.920 --> 01:09:09.399
had to stay and wait until each got out so

1142
01:09:09.439 --> 01:09:12.920
they'd be able to notify if anybody got hurt. And

1143
01:09:12.960 --> 01:09:16.600
never came back to the checkpoints. So this man took

1144
01:09:16.640 --> 01:09:19.000
the left trail going up to the goat and he

1145
01:09:19.079 --> 01:09:22.039
got to the Salmonbury patch where he saw this with

1146
01:09:22.159 --> 01:09:25.800
black bear, and he took out his weapon and he

1147
01:09:25.960 --> 01:09:30.039
lined it up and he n alive the thing. As

1148
01:09:30.079 --> 01:09:32.119
he stood up, he was going to go get his catch.

1149
01:09:33.000 --> 01:09:37.159
Three big three big sapsquatch stood up and they looked

1150
01:09:37.199 --> 01:09:40.359
over at him, and he froze. He dropped his firearm.

1151
01:09:40.800 --> 01:09:43.760
He ended up urinating on his firearm. He was so scared,

1152
01:09:43.800 --> 01:09:46.479
and he spoke in our language saying, I'm sorry, I'm sorry,

1153
01:09:46.960 --> 01:09:49.640
I did not know I did not know you guys

1154
01:09:49.640 --> 01:09:52.720
were buss. I thought you were a black bear, trying

1155
01:09:52.760 --> 01:09:58.800
to apologize in the a Weekula language. So those things

1156
01:09:58.920 --> 01:10:01.079
looked at him and there was show often. Keep in mind,

1157
01:10:01.239 --> 01:10:03.439
the Hudson Bay Company had just came here in the

1158
01:10:03.479 --> 01:10:07.720
eighteen hundreds, and these are probably the first first cracks

1159
01:10:07.720 --> 01:10:10.600
of the rifle that they've ever heard around the whole territory.

1160
01:10:11.880 --> 01:10:15.640
So those things looked down, they looked at the man,

1161
01:10:15.920 --> 01:10:19.720
they looked back at the fallen, their fallen that squatch,

1162
01:10:19.760 --> 01:10:22.760
and my grandfather told me they grabbed him by the

1163
01:10:22.800 --> 01:10:25.279
wrists from the ankles and they swung them kind of

1164
01:10:25.319 --> 01:10:31.680
like a swinging rope, and they lifted the sasquatch went

1165
01:10:31.720 --> 01:10:34.840
in there, and the body fell and hit the ground,

1166
01:10:35.079 --> 01:10:38.279
and they looked at the man again, and he was scared.

1167
01:10:38.319 --> 01:10:41.680
He's still talking in our language. And they went and

1168
01:10:41.720 --> 01:10:44.840
did that three times, grabbed him by the ankles and

1169
01:10:44.880 --> 01:10:47.199
the wrists, and they flung him up in the air,

1170
01:10:47.800 --> 01:10:49.800
and on the third time they looked at the man.

1171
01:10:50.439 --> 01:10:53.760
I'm keeping his name out of the story because you're

1172
01:10:53.760 --> 01:10:58.680
going to share it after. But in the Kitler where

1173
01:10:58.680 --> 01:11:00.720
I'm from, it's like a lot of bed rock that

1174
01:11:00.800 --> 01:11:02.960
comes straight out of the biggest fjords in the world,

1175
01:11:03.119 --> 01:11:05.800
so it's like a lot of vertical rocks, and we

1176
01:11:05.880 --> 01:11:08.560
had trained mountain climbers that would actually go out and

1177
01:11:08.600 --> 01:11:11.560
go hunting and stuff like that. So he was an

1178
01:11:11.560 --> 01:11:14.239
experienced goat hunter, meaning he was able to climb the

1179
01:11:14.319 --> 01:11:17.319
highest rocks that there were. Well, there's this one rock

1180
01:11:17.399 --> 01:11:20.119
that was so ovoid shaped that nobody could actually get

1181
01:11:20.199 --> 01:11:23.720
leverage on and climb. It was like a big oval boulder.

1182
01:11:23.359 --> 01:11:23.880
That was there.

1183
01:11:24.720 --> 01:11:27.479
Billy Hall or yeah, well that was his name, Billy Hall.

1184
01:11:27.560 --> 01:11:30.840
He went running all the way down the trail. These

1185
01:11:30.880 --> 01:11:34.399
things were chasing them from behind. Their arms lifted up

1186
01:11:34.439 --> 01:11:36.920
like spider monkeys, and they went side to side and

1187
01:11:36.960 --> 01:11:40.239
they were stepping, and he went running to that thing.

1188
01:11:40.359 --> 01:11:44.279
He blacked out as adrenaline was going so so much

1189
01:11:44.399 --> 01:11:46.800
that he when he came to he was on top

1190
01:11:46.840 --> 01:11:48.800
of that rock that no one was able to climb,

1191
01:11:49.199 --> 01:11:52.039
and those arms were dangling just at the top of

1192
01:11:52.039 --> 01:11:55.039
that rock. And he turned around and where he could

1193
01:11:55.079 --> 01:11:57.560
slide off the rock and continue to run, that's where

1194
01:11:57.600 --> 01:12:00.239
his canoe was. So he took a chance, and he

1195
01:12:00.319 --> 01:12:02.640
slid down the rock and he went running all the

1196
01:12:02.640 --> 01:12:04.600
way down the trail and he got onto the back

1197
01:12:04.680 --> 01:12:06.880
end of his canoe. And these are big cedar canoes

1198
01:12:06.920 --> 01:12:10.199
that they used to go so launching match like launching

1199
01:12:10.239 --> 01:12:13.000
a watern canoe. He grabbed that back into the canoe

1200
01:12:13.000 --> 01:12:14.800
and he went running out into the water and he

1201
01:12:14.840 --> 01:12:17.680
hopped in and started taking his canoe paddle and paddling.

1202
01:12:17.960 --> 01:12:21.119
So he heard splashes going behind him, and he started

1203
01:12:21.159 --> 01:12:24.119
paddling as fast as he could. The adrenaline hit him really,

1204
01:12:24.199 --> 01:12:26.760
really good. He started paddling really hard, and he got

1205
01:12:26.800 --> 01:12:29.159
out deep enough because it's the biggest fjord, so it

1206
01:12:29.199 --> 01:12:32.279
gets really deep. He was confident enough to turn around,

1207
01:12:32.319 --> 01:12:34.960
and those things went into the water up to their

1208
01:12:35.079 --> 01:12:38.439
chest and their arms round like spider monkeys still, and

1209
01:12:38.479 --> 01:12:42.319
they were making whooping noises at it. When he came

1210
01:12:43.159 --> 01:12:47.199
back to the village, he told the story. There's one

1211
01:12:47.239 --> 01:12:49.079
part I forgot out. While he was on top of

1212
01:12:49.079 --> 01:12:51.640
that rock, he looked up to where that other fallen

1213
01:12:51.680 --> 01:12:55.439
taskquatch was, and behind this tree he peeked out this big,

1214
01:12:55.520 --> 01:13:00.560
giant pure white sasquatch, like a huge one. He said,

1215
01:13:00.680 --> 01:13:02.800
was like three times as big as those other ones.

1216
01:13:04.000 --> 01:13:08.279
So my grandmother also said there's a different species, like

1217
01:13:08.319 --> 01:13:11.560
there's ones that live on alpine that no human could

1218
01:13:11.600 --> 01:13:14.479
live up there because there's not enough oxygen, but these

1219
01:13:15.079 --> 01:13:18.760
grade apes can live up there, and that's what they

1220
01:13:18.800 --> 01:13:23.479
think that these species here were. So when he got home,

1221
01:13:23.560 --> 01:13:26.039
he told the village what had happened. And he was

1222
01:13:26.079 --> 01:13:28.640
a carver, a master carver. So he carved out the

1223
01:13:28.680 --> 01:13:30.880
mask and it had the lips that you guys are

1224
01:13:30.880 --> 01:13:33.279
talking about on the totem poles, like, that's a region

1225
01:13:33.319 --> 01:13:36.880
I'm from, is inland from high to Guay. I guess

1226
01:13:36.880 --> 01:13:41.159
if you guys know where that is. So he had

1227
01:13:41.199 --> 01:13:44.720
those really big lips. Then he paddled out the next

1228
01:13:44.800 --> 01:13:47.279
day and he went to the rock and he carved

1229
01:13:47.279 --> 01:13:50.840
the three faces of those juveniles that were there. And

1230
01:13:50.920 --> 01:13:53.279
though in the rock today you could see those big

1231
01:13:53.359 --> 01:13:55.840
lips that are still there, the circle ones. When he

1232
01:13:55.880 --> 01:13:59.760
went back home, he went into a coma and back

1233
01:13:59.800 --> 01:14:03.039
then going into a coma quite different than today with

1234
01:14:03.640 --> 01:14:04.720
life support and stuff.

1235
01:14:05.840 --> 01:14:06.600
But we have.

1236
01:14:08.039 --> 01:14:10.439
Bowl kelp he cut off. They cut off the top

1237
01:14:10.520 --> 01:14:12.479
of a bowl kelp. In the bottom it's like a

1238
01:14:12.520 --> 01:14:14.920
cow's whip, but it's hollow, so they cut that off.

1239
01:14:15.239 --> 01:14:18.039
They were able to insert that down into his stomach

1240
01:14:18.079 --> 01:14:20.720
and they're kept on feeding them bone broth. He was

1241
01:14:20.760 --> 01:14:23.399
in the coma for an entire year because he was

1242
01:14:23.439 --> 01:14:25.880
such a shock of what he just saw on what

1243
01:14:26.000 --> 01:14:29.840
had just happened. And these things sometimes they they they're mythical.

1244
01:14:30.079 --> 01:14:32.880
I'm not too sure if people have mentioned portals and

1245
01:14:33.239 --> 01:14:37.680
zero point energy, those types of things. Yet we have

1246
01:14:37.800 --> 01:14:41.600
similar stories to those types of portals, those types of beings,

1247
01:14:41.640 --> 01:14:44.479
Like there's many different types of these species of these

1248
01:14:44.520 --> 01:14:50.880
wild wild things. Say so, he woke up a year

1249
01:14:50.960 --> 01:14:54.880
after and when he got its strength back, he went

1250
01:14:54.920 --> 01:14:58.720
back out into the community and he was actually when

1251
01:14:58.720 --> 01:15:02.279
he shook people's hands. We have a word, it's called

1252
01:15:02.319 --> 01:15:04.720
the dootye week that means to be able to see

1253
01:15:04.960 --> 01:15:10.399
many different things that that the waking world can't right,

1254
01:15:10.640 --> 01:15:14.840
So it's like special types of psychic abilities. He would

1255
01:15:14.840 --> 01:15:17.760
shake people's hands and he would like picture that when

1256
01:15:17.800 --> 01:15:20.680
they passed away, how long they would live. He would

1257
01:15:20.720 --> 01:15:29.439
be able to When he got really old, he was

1258
01:15:29.520 --> 01:15:33.239
in his bed, they all gathered around and he made

1259
01:15:33.319 --> 01:15:37.399
one last prediction. He said, you see that mountain over there,

1260
01:15:37.520 --> 01:15:40.159
One day there's going to be this big giant worm.

1261
01:15:40.199 --> 01:15:42.479
It's going to eat its way down through the mountain.

1262
01:15:43.399 --> 01:15:46.319
And they thought he was losing his mind at that time,

1263
01:15:46.359 --> 01:15:49.039
because how could this big giant worm eat its way

1264
01:15:49.119 --> 01:15:53.159
through bedrock, like right through the mountain. Well, that's where

1265
01:15:53.159 --> 01:15:57.760
they built a dam, and his prediction came through. Years

1266
01:15:57.880 --> 01:16:01.199
years later, they had this big giant you know those

1267
01:16:01.359 --> 01:16:06.039
tunnel building machines they bore through. Yeah, that's what that's

1268
01:16:06.079 --> 01:16:12.039
what they used. And he passed away, and yeah, his

1269
01:16:12.079 --> 01:16:15.000
predictions came true. So they do have an element of

1270
01:16:16.560 --> 01:16:20.640
magic as well. There's other stories older that they used

1271
01:16:20.680 --> 01:16:22.439
to live with us, and we used to live with

1272
01:16:22.479 --> 01:16:27.800
all of these in harmony, like in my territory. One

1273
01:16:28.359 --> 01:16:32.520
one Sasquatch. I guess you'd have to call it a cub.

1274
01:16:32.560 --> 01:16:36.640
At that point, the child was adopted by a family.

1275
01:16:36.760 --> 01:16:39.960
But the thing was so wild and I loved it

1276
01:16:40.039 --> 01:16:42.520
the mother that adopted it, but it was really violent

1277
01:16:42.600 --> 01:16:45.319
to other people in the village. So she isolated in

1278
01:16:45.359 --> 01:16:48.520
this cove around Bishop Bay. It's a hot springs around here,

1279
01:16:49.159 --> 01:16:53.119
and she raised the child there that looked like hers.

1280
01:16:53.439 --> 01:16:59.159
So, oh my goodness, just so I get a feel

1281
01:16:59.239 --> 01:17:02.479
for the area. So this is is this right underneath

1282
01:17:02.520 --> 01:17:04.720
where the tip of southeast Alaska is.

1283
01:17:05.760 --> 01:17:08.479
Yeah, kid them at BC And then if you go out,

1284
01:17:09.199 --> 01:17:11.159
got it. What I would suggest for you to do

1285
01:17:11.279 --> 01:17:13.720
is something like Google Maps and you'd be able to

1286
01:17:13.760 --> 01:17:17.239
pin everybody's stories and like translate them on there. I've

1287
01:17:17.279 --> 01:17:22.039
done that for Oh I have it. Yeah, so yeah yeah,

1288
01:17:21.760 --> 01:17:25.960
out out there, they're like, we have stories. We have

1289
01:17:26.000 --> 01:17:28.479
trapper cabins that are still available for people to go

1290
01:17:28.520 --> 01:17:31.479
out trapping, and they go into the cabins, but all

1291
01:17:31.479 --> 01:17:34.720
these rocks get bashed. So I run culture camps and

1292
01:17:34.760 --> 01:17:37.439
I reintroduced our culture to our youth. So we were

1293
01:17:37.479 --> 01:17:39.960
out at Weewani Hot Springs for a couple of weeks

1294
01:17:40.479 --> 01:17:43.439
and we have little clinkers to sing our ancestral songs

1295
01:17:43.600 --> 01:17:46.479
or Devil's club sticks, and we hit them together kind

1296
01:17:46.479 --> 01:17:48.520
of like and use our drums at the same time

1297
01:17:49.199 --> 01:17:51.520
we stopped. We were all of us were out in

1298
01:17:51.880 --> 01:17:58.880
probably sixteen youth and about five camp counselors. Right when

1299
01:17:58.880 --> 01:18:01.159
we stopped drumming and hit it, we heard tree knocking

1300
01:18:01.199 --> 01:18:02.960
and stuff, and the kids were looking at me and

1301
01:18:03.000 --> 01:18:05.079
they knew what it was because we talked about the

1302
01:18:05.119 --> 01:18:08.840
sasquats already. We let them know. The busses around and

1303
01:18:08.880 --> 01:18:10.680
they were like, well, what are they doing, Why are

1304
01:18:10.680 --> 01:18:13.600
they hitting the trees? And I said, well, we're hitting

1305
01:18:13.640 --> 01:18:16.199
our sticks, I said, I probably called them in we're

1306
01:18:16.239 --> 01:18:19.600
the only sound from here to like one hundred miles

1307
01:18:19.600 --> 01:18:22.079
that way, Like we were way out in an isolated hag.

1308
01:18:22.760 --> 01:18:26.039
So that night all the kids were creeped out. We

1309
01:18:26.079 --> 01:18:28.079
stayed up a bit late and we let the fire

1310
01:18:28.159 --> 01:18:30.600
burn out. They went into their camps. I had the

1311
01:18:30.600 --> 01:18:34.000
trappers cabin, I do not even joke, and we put

1312
01:18:34.000 --> 01:18:36.199
the electric fence and stuff on. But I had this

1313
01:18:36.279 --> 01:18:39.560
little overhanging cliff on the left side of mine that

1314
01:18:39.880 --> 01:18:43.399
the electric fence went under that cliff. The height of

1315
01:18:43.399 --> 01:18:45.560
that cliff, it was not a big cliff, it was

1316
01:18:45.560 --> 01:18:49.840
only like seven feet high, but right on my trappers cabin,

1317
01:18:49.920 --> 01:18:54.399
I swear I felt two feet land just outside the wall,

1318
01:18:54.840 --> 01:18:57.039
and I was so creeped out. The window was there,

1319
01:18:57.560 --> 01:18:59.640
and I went and put a towel over the window,

1320
01:19:01.159 --> 01:19:03.880
because in our stories they sometimes peek in and they

1321
01:19:03.920 --> 01:19:06.039
put their faces right up to the window and they

1322
01:19:06.079 --> 01:19:08.239
peek in. And I was not ready to see that.

1323
01:19:08.800 --> 01:19:12.199
So the next morning, where we had our canoes and

1324
01:19:12.239 --> 01:19:14.960
the tide was coming up rapidly, we went out to

1325
01:19:15.000 --> 01:19:17.800
where the canoes where we followed these feetprints straight out

1326
01:19:17.800 --> 01:19:21.079
there and right where this mud spot was, there's probably

1327
01:19:21.159 --> 01:19:24.600
like a fourteen to sixteen inch footprint, and as the

1328
01:19:24.680 --> 01:19:27.199
tide was coming in, we did get a picture of

1329
01:19:27.239 --> 01:19:29.520
it too, my sister. I'd have to ask her for it,

1330
01:19:29.840 --> 01:19:32.439
but you could see the water pooling into it, and

1331
01:19:32.479 --> 01:19:37.960
then when the tide went out, they were all gone.

1332
01:19:36.840 --> 01:19:41.319
Wow, oh my goodness, this is some really incredible stuff.

1333
01:19:41.319 --> 01:19:44.600
And thank you for sharing stories that are so special

1334
01:19:44.680 --> 01:19:49.159
to your culture. I mean it's just wild, absolutely wild stuff.

1335
01:19:49.279 --> 01:19:52.319
Different ones shape shifting, all different types of shape shifters,

1336
01:19:52.399 --> 01:19:57.119
like Otterman. They shape shift into these big human beings.

1337
01:19:58.119 --> 01:20:00.520
The hell a bit shape shifter that g lifted us

1338
01:20:00.520 --> 01:20:03.039
our hell of bit hooks. We have stories of cave

1339
01:20:03.079 --> 01:20:05.399
bears that we fought off that go back to about

1340
01:20:05.399 --> 01:20:06.600
forty thousand years ago.

1341
01:20:07.760 --> 01:20:10.960
No, what, Oh my goodness, dude, can you send me

1342
01:20:11.399 --> 01:20:16.039
an email? I would love to have contact with you

1343
01:20:16.159 --> 01:20:19.239
outside of this platform, so maybe we could have another

1344
01:20:19.439 --> 01:20:25.199
conversation someday. My email is big for society at gmail

1345
01:20:25.199 --> 01:20:35.920
dot com. Okay, wow, that's cave bear stories. That's really cool.

1346
01:20:40.760 --> 01:20:43.920
So the one thing I forgot to say is what

1347
01:20:44.159 --> 01:20:48.920
those humans that go overboard and they turn wild, so

1348
01:20:48.960 --> 01:20:52.720
they went out on canoes. They actually mourned that these

1349
01:20:52.760 --> 01:20:56.199
people they found their canoes top sided, like flipped over

1350
01:20:56.319 --> 01:20:59.199
in rough weather. So they assumed that they passed on,

1351
01:20:59.359 --> 01:21:02.159
so they would or in their death, but their wives

1352
01:21:02.279 --> 01:21:05.600
would always And there's three different stories that I could

1353
01:21:05.680 --> 01:21:08.680
talk about, but the one actually where they brought the

1354
01:21:08.720 --> 01:21:10.680
person back to like be a human.

1355
01:21:11.560 --> 01:21:11.920
Uh.

1356
01:21:12.079 --> 01:21:15.600
They the this creature would go up and peek in

1357
01:21:15.640 --> 01:21:19.119
and his wife's wife's window, and she would look over

1358
01:21:19.199 --> 01:21:22.079
and see this dark, furry face, like this thing was

1359
01:21:22.199 --> 01:21:25.680
just like hideous. She would scream. This is before phones

1360
01:21:25.800 --> 01:21:30.560
or anything like that. She called her brothers. They had

1361
01:21:30.840 --> 01:21:33.319
they had modern rifles at that time. This is still

1362
01:21:33.359 --> 01:21:37.520
the first introduction of those things. They chased it off,

1363
01:21:37.800 --> 01:21:40.520
but it kept coming back every few nights. So what

1364
01:21:40.680 --> 01:21:43.039
they did, the old lady told them, they think it's

1365
01:21:43.079 --> 01:21:46.039
that person's husband. They're they're coming back to a peek

1366
01:21:46.039 --> 01:21:51.279
at his wife. They're in love. And what would happened.

1367
01:21:50.760 --> 01:21:53.880
They dug a big trap in front of the window,

1368
01:21:53.960 --> 01:21:55.880
a bowl down, and they put a whole bunch of

1369
01:21:55.960 --> 01:21:58.119
rocks in there, and then they filled it up with

1370
01:21:58.239 --> 01:22:01.960
water and then they they cover covered it with sticks

1371
01:22:01.960 --> 01:22:02.479
and stuff.

1372
01:22:02.680 --> 01:22:03.239
So when this.

1373
01:22:03.159 --> 01:22:06.840
Went went up to the window, they heard it crash

1374
01:22:06.960 --> 01:22:09.159
down in there, and then the breed came out and

1375
01:22:09.199 --> 01:22:14.119
they have we have a route. It's a really powerful

1376
01:22:14.199 --> 01:22:19.199
medicine for our people. And they held him down. They

1377
01:22:19.279 --> 01:22:21.960
rubbed him with this root and he started talking English

1378
01:22:22.039 --> 01:22:24.079
again and he was like, keep going, keep going, and

1379
01:22:24.119 --> 01:22:27.520
they're dunking them under the water, bathing them with its root.

1380
01:22:27.560 --> 01:22:29.359
It's like a spirit bath that we would have to

1381
01:22:29.359 --> 01:22:33.760
pull our people back into like human consciousness. He had

1382
01:22:33.840 --> 01:22:36.920
stories of actually going over two to three mountains in

1383
01:22:37.000 --> 01:22:39.279
one day like it was nothing. But now that he's

1384
01:22:39.319 --> 01:22:42.680
back to being a human, he couldn't even fathom going

1385
01:22:42.720 --> 01:22:43.960
over one mountain again.

1386
01:22:44.560 --> 01:22:48.359
So interesting goods.

1387
01:22:48.720 --> 01:22:50.920
There was a cannery out here too, and I worked

1388
01:22:50.920 --> 01:22:54.880
in archives for our community, and that happened to a

1389
01:22:54.960 --> 01:22:58.920
Japanese fisherman and his brother heard about it in Japan

1390
01:22:59.199 --> 01:23:02.640
that his brother fell overboard and they saw this wild

1391
01:23:02.680 --> 01:23:04.840
person coming out of the water walking up and they

1392
01:23:04.840 --> 01:23:09.600
look like sasquatch too, and in their ancestry they have

1393
01:23:09.720 --> 01:23:12.239
the same story that the hinds of people have about

1394
01:23:12.239 --> 01:23:15.239
them going wild. So the guy came over from Japan

1395
01:23:15.399 --> 01:23:17.920
and he said, that's my brother. I want you guys

1396
01:23:17.960 --> 01:23:21.079
to when they come up, pull out your rifle, and

1397
01:23:21.159 --> 01:23:25.199
you know, get them. So when he came out next time,

1398
01:23:25.279 --> 01:23:27.399
that's what they did. And he said, now come watch this.

1399
01:23:27.479 --> 01:23:30.239
I'm going to pull back his lips and you'll see

1400
01:23:30.239 --> 01:23:33.039
that gold tooth that he has. And that's how he

1401
01:23:33.119 --> 01:23:35.479
knew that that was his brother. And we have this

1402
01:23:35.600 --> 01:23:40.239
in our archives documented still so crossed by the Pacific,

1403
01:23:40.479 --> 01:23:44.520
these two background and clusteres. So now you go through

1404
01:23:44.560 --> 01:23:48.359
the different locations that you're talking about and imagine all

1405
01:23:48.399 --> 01:23:51.760
the different species. So let's talk about the black bear.

1406
01:23:51.840 --> 01:23:56.560
In our territory. We have three different species of black bear,

1407
01:23:56.640 --> 01:23:58.960
and people think that there's just one, but if you

1408
01:23:59.039 --> 01:24:02.279
go across the whole all Americas, there's many different types

1409
01:24:02.319 --> 01:24:04.840
of subspecies of different animals.

1410
01:24:05.600 --> 01:24:05.800
Right.

1411
01:24:07.399 --> 01:24:09.359
I think a lot of people don't think they see

1412
01:24:09.439 --> 01:24:13.560
the dog man. I heard that we're talking about it

1413
01:24:13.600 --> 01:24:20.479
being a temp an orangutang type of bigfoot, and since

1414
01:24:20.520 --> 01:24:23.960
the orangutang's faces look like that, you would naturally just

1415
01:24:23.960 --> 01:24:26.720
think it was a werewolf or something, so associating it

1416
01:24:26.800 --> 01:24:30.840
with the dog. But those ones are like flesh eaters, hey,

1417
01:24:30.880 --> 01:24:33.640
So you'd find those ones around cave systems and stuff

1418
01:24:33.680 --> 01:24:37.319
like that, you.

1419
01:24:37.319 --> 01:24:43.079
Had mentioned that there's stories in your culture about portal usage.

1420
01:24:43.720 --> 01:24:47.399
Yeah, yeah, there's a lot to what ley liens are

1421
01:24:47.439 --> 01:24:51.600
in modern day research is basically animals will go over

1422
01:24:51.640 --> 01:24:55.239
and they're a visible energy drid that travels the world.

1423
01:24:55.279 --> 01:25:00.680
And this is how different animals migrate. Well whoa, whoa

1424
01:25:00.720 --> 01:25:07.479
what when too lay lines over across each other? That

1425
01:25:07.720 --> 01:25:10.680
creates zero point energy in physics, this is actually like

1426
01:25:10.800 --> 01:25:13.760
proven like that's where you would find zero point energy.

1427
01:25:14.239 --> 01:25:16.560
So those are places where they're able to come in

1428
01:25:16.600 --> 01:25:21.840
and out of the different spectrum I get. So we

1429
01:25:21.920 --> 01:25:24.880
have one story of the Kitlope, like we have glacial.

1430
01:25:24.479 --> 01:25:26.439
Water where we are, you know, be blue.

1431
01:25:26.319 --> 01:25:29.119
And an alligator popping out of one of these portals

1432
01:25:29.199 --> 01:25:33.119
and our people not recognizing it until modern time. The

1433
01:25:33.159 --> 01:25:36.600
pictures get passed down to whatever creature it was. We

1434
01:25:36.680 --> 01:25:39.760
even have like shape shifting ravens that were around here

1435
01:25:39.960 --> 01:25:45.520
that our land, our ancestry is so rich in these

1436
01:25:45.560 --> 01:25:48.199
types of stories, like I can go on for the

1437
01:25:48.239 --> 01:25:49.319
majority of the night.

1438
01:25:50.720 --> 01:25:53.479
That it's incredible the amount of knowledge that you have

1439
01:25:53.680 --> 01:25:57.680
is so so cool, and like this the wild thing

1440
01:25:57.760 --> 01:25:59.960
is like this is not anything that you can read

1441
01:26:00.079 --> 01:26:01.399
in a book. I guarantee it.

1442
01:26:02.119 --> 01:26:06.000
Yeah, I'm really lucky. I was raised my grandfather's so

1443
01:26:06.359 --> 01:26:10.720
my when contact happened here, my grand my mom's appendix

1444
01:26:10.760 --> 01:26:14.520
burst when she was a baby, and these helicopters came

1445
01:26:14.560 --> 01:26:18.079
in because they had to boat across to the nearest town.

1446
01:26:18.600 --> 01:26:21.720
These helicopters came in and my great great great great

1447
01:26:21.760 --> 01:26:24.479
grandmother pulled out her cane and was trying to fight

1448
01:26:24.560 --> 01:26:27.960
off this giant dragonfly that was coming.

1449
01:26:29.640 --> 01:26:31.560
Oh my goodness, that's awesome.

1450
01:26:32.000 --> 01:26:36.399
Yeah, so yeah, we did, we we weren't. We're probably

1451
01:26:36.479 --> 01:26:40.439
the last three nations contacted throughout all of BC just

1452
01:26:40.439 --> 01:26:43.279
because of our location. So we still have a lot

1453
01:26:43.319 --> 01:26:45.319
of these types of stories in this area.

1454
01:26:47.319 --> 01:26:52.079
That's incredible. What year was contact for you guys, about the.

1455
01:26:52.159 --> 01:26:54.119
Early eighteen hundred so probably.

1456
01:26:53.880 --> 01:26:56.119
Okay, right yeah, yeah, right.

1457
01:26:55.760 --> 01:26:59.319
So you could imagine how much we still have within

1458
01:26:59.600 --> 01:27:04.880
within And people think that, you know, VC is still

1459
01:27:05.199 --> 01:27:08.039
still really young, even Canada's young. Canada is only three

1460
01:27:08.119 --> 01:27:13.880
hundred years old. They say, sure, sure, absolutely elapsed all

1461
01:27:13.920 --> 01:27:18.960
of those they there's even we have the quawk quawky walk.

1462
01:27:19.119 --> 01:27:23.319
They call it the Donua and she's another one with

1463
01:27:23.399 --> 01:27:28.920
big lips and it's a cannibal lady, the cedar basket lady. Yeah, Wemala.

1464
01:27:29.039 --> 01:27:32.680
So in my research between surrounding nations, we all have

1465
01:27:32.960 --> 01:27:38.720
this entity and a lot of people actually think that

1466
01:27:38.720 --> 01:27:43.119
that's the mother of lots of sasquatch. And she would

1467
01:27:43.119 --> 01:27:46.439
come around, but she has really poor eyesight and she

1468
01:27:46.520 --> 01:27:50.880
would through tree sap like a gum and it would

1469
01:27:50.880 --> 01:27:55.319
always she would smack her lips when and that would

1470
01:27:55.359 --> 01:27:57.640
lure the children around where they would go play in

1471
01:27:57.680 --> 01:28:00.439
the summer in the water. She had this big caine

1472
01:28:00.439 --> 01:28:02.319
because she was an old lady, and she would have

1473
01:28:02.479 --> 01:28:04.880
the kids went to investigate what it was. She would

1474
01:28:04.920 --> 01:28:07.800
grab her cane, scoop them in, grab them with their

1475
01:28:07.800 --> 01:28:10.279
big hands, put them over her head and right into

1476
01:28:10.319 --> 01:28:12.880
the cedar backpack and then she would walk home. And

1477
01:28:13.760 --> 01:28:18.840
apparently that was her diet. But many different one of

1478
01:28:18.840 --> 01:28:22.239
our nations around, like my neighboring nations, they have the

1479
01:28:22.279 --> 01:28:26.159
same story in their language. So my people can't talk

1480
01:28:26.199 --> 01:28:29.760
to my neighbors. Our dialect is different and we were

1481
01:28:29.800 --> 01:28:32.520
all broken up through at BC, but we all have

1482
01:28:32.920 --> 01:28:37.960
these stories like Sasquatch actually comes from the Cootneys area

1483
01:28:37.960 --> 01:28:44.119
in Lillowette and it's the squatch and that's where coming from.

1484
01:28:44.399 --> 01:28:48.199
My goodness, oh, my goodness, this is this is one

1485
01:28:48.239 --> 01:28:53.079
of the coolest conversations I've I've had on this platform.

1486
01:28:53.399 --> 01:28:55.960
Thank you so much, Dustin for coming up and for

1487
01:28:56.079 --> 01:28:58.000
chatting for a while. I appreciate it.

1488
01:28:58.560 --> 01:29:02.039
Yeah, for sure, I'll let let other people talk and

1489
01:29:02.079 --> 01:29:04.319
I'll send you an email tomorrow. I wrote that.

1490
01:29:04.439 --> 01:29:08.439
Okay, thank you so much. We'll talk later. Thank you, Dustin.

1491
01:29:13.319 --> 01:29:13.520
Man.

1492
01:29:13.560 --> 01:29:31.000
That was really cool. That was extremely cool. Wow, hey, Johnny,

1493
01:29:31.000 --> 01:29:31.399
how are.

1494
01:29:31.319 --> 01:29:33.840
You oh very blessed today?

1495
01:29:34.560 --> 01:29:37.720
Yes, Pennsylvania, it definitely counts. I feel free to share

1496
01:29:38.119 --> 01:29:39.399
what you've experienced.

1497
01:29:40.720 --> 01:29:44.600
So back in twenty twenty, me and my son went

1498
01:29:44.680 --> 01:29:50.079
hunting on private property and we were up kicking some

1499
01:29:50.239 --> 01:29:53.359
deer out from my brother who was down below us.

1500
01:29:54.039 --> 01:29:56.439
And we got to the top of this hill and

1501
01:29:57.399 --> 01:30:00.680
as we were getting up there, we were just brushing

1502
01:30:00.720 --> 01:30:03.720
through the jaggers and we got pretty thick into it

1503
01:30:04.760 --> 01:30:09.319
and my son came across this hut. That's all I

1504
01:30:09.359 --> 01:30:12.239
can say is it's a hut. This thing had to

1505
01:30:12.319 --> 01:30:17.520
be gosh, at least fourteen foot high and almost twenty

1506
01:30:17.520 --> 01:30:18.159
foot a round.

1507
01:30:18.199 --> 01:30:19.039
It was huge.

1508
01:30:20.359 --> 01:30:22.720
My son looked at and he says, he Dad, He says,

1509
01:30:22.760 --> 01:30:27.199
it really smells over here. I was like, well, you know,

1510
01:30:27.560 --> 01:30:30.960
at the time, I had a pretty bad nasal thing

1511
01:30:31.039 --> 01:30:35.119
going on, and I said, I can't smell nothing. So

1512
01:30:35.239 --> 01:30:39.560
the sun. He was over there looking all around that hut,

1513
01:30:39.960 --> 01:30:43.239
and then next thing you know, he got down into

1514
01:30:43.279 --> 01:30:46.600
the valley. He says, holy smokes, Dad. He said, there's

1515
01:30:46.600 --> 01:30:49.720
a big hole in the bottom of this hut. He says,

1516
01:30:49.960 --> 01:30:53.560
it's too high. I can't crawl into it. I said,

1517
01:30:54.159 --> 01:30:56.439
I don't know what's down there. And I said, you

1518
01:30:56.479 --> 01:30:58.479
said it smells bad. I said, the best thing to

1519
01:30:58.520 --> 01:31:01.119
do is just come on like up here with me.

1520
01:31:02.439 --> 01:31:04.680
So he'd come back up on top of the hill.

1521
01:31:04.960 --> 01:31:08.880
And at the time I was still smoking cigarettes, and

1522
01:31:08.920 --> 01:31:11.279
I said, let's just have a cigarette and think about

1523
01:31:11.279 --> 01:31:15.319
it as we're sitting in the field. It went down

1524
01:31:15.399 --> 01:31:18.359
into that valley, the hut was on our left hand side,

1525
01:31:18.720 --> 01:31:20.680
and then come up onto a big valley on the

1526
01:31:20.720 --> 01:31:24.720
other side, a big hill. Well, my son looked over

1527
01:31:24.840 --> 01:31:30.600
and he seen this big black I thought it was

1528
01:31:30.600 --> 01:31:33.399
a bear. I really thought it was a bear. But

1529
01:31:33.800 --> 01:31:36.279
you know, we're in Pennsylvania and we're we're hunting at

1530
01:31:36.880 --> 01:31:40.960
there was no sighting a bear. He said, Dad, he says,

1531
01:31:41.239 --> 01:31:43.560
what is that? I said, I don't know. I said,

1532
01:31:43.800 --> 01:31:46.319
you take my gun, which had a scope on it.

1533
01:31:46.600 --> 01:31:50.279
I says, I got a pair of binoculars in my

1534
01:31:51.319 --> 01:31:55.000
hunting outfit. I said, let me dig that out. I said, meanwhile,

1535
01:31:55.159 --> 01:31:57.159
keep that scope on him so this way we can

1536
01:31:57.279 --> 01:32:01.520
keep an eye on it. So he's sitting there pointing

1537
01:32:01.520 --> 01:32:03.520
the scope at it, and I'm trying to look for

1538
01:32:03.640 --> 01:32:06.880
my binoculars through all these dog on pockets I had

1539
01:32:06.960 --> 01:32:10.199
because yeah, I had thermal wand to wear a thermal shirt,

1540
01:32:10.319 --> 01:32:14.600
thermal everything else. And finally I went to go I

1541
01:32:14.720 --> 01:32:18.319
found the binoculars. He turned, looked at me, took the

1542
01:32:18.359 --> 01:32:22.359
scope off of it, and he said, Pat, Joe, you know, Dad,

1543
01:32:22.399 --> 01:32:25.640
did you find them their binoculars? I said yeah. We

1544
01:32:25.800 --> 01:32:29.000
both looked, and this black thing jumped.

1545
01:32:28.880 --> 01:32:29.520
Over the hill.

1546
01:32:30.960 --> 01:32:33.920
I said, well, I said, I don't know what that was.

1547
01:32:34.880 --> 01:32:37.760
He said, but Dad, he says, it was quick, it moved.

1548
01:32:38.520 --> 01:32:42.960
I said, it was big. So the rest of that

1549
01:32:43.079 --> 01:32:46.800
day we didn't see no deer at all. And we

1550
01:32:46.800 --> 01:32:50.039
were coming down off of the hill. And as we're

1551
01:32:50.079 --> 01:32:53.479
coming down off of the hill, we sit down for

1552
01:32:53.520 --> 01:32:56.000
a second and smoking a cigarette and he said, Dad,

1553
01:32:56.119 --> 01:33:01.439
he says, that smells back and I, well, I didn't

1554
01:33:01.439 --> 01:33:05.920
see nothing. I didn't hear anything. Keep walking back down

1555
01:33:05.960 --> 01:33:09.640
the quad trail. Next thing you know, a rock flies

1556
01:33:09.720 --> 01:33:13.159
over my head and landed on the path in front

1557
01:33:13.159 --> 01:33:15.920
of me. I said, I said, what the hell did

1558
01:33:15.920 --> 01:33:18.319
you throw a rock at me for? He said, Dad,

1559
01:33:18.359 --> 01:33:20.840
that wasn't me. He said, man, I don't know where

1560
01:33:20.840 --> 01:33:27.119
that come from. And then we heard a grunt and

1561
01:33:27.359 --> 01:33:32.520
I mean, I've heard deer grunt. This was nothing like that.

1562
01:33:33.119 --> 01:33:38.520
It was really odd, kind of scared me. So I said,

1563
01:33:38.600 --> 01:33:41.920
let's just sit down, relax a minute. And we heard

1564
01:33:41.920 --> 01:33:44.720
something over on our right hand side, and it just

1565
01:33:45.600 --> 01:33:48.840
it sounded like somebody dropped a tree into the brush.

1566
01:33:49.000 --> 01:33:52.800
And we waited, we waited. We didn't hear nothing, seen nothing.

1567
01:33:53.680 --> 01:33:55.720
My brother jumps on the radio and says, hey, where

1568
01:33:55.800 --> 01:33:59.000
you guys at, Come on down. And when me and

1569
01:33:59.079 --> 01:34:03.199
my son stood up, this thing took off up over

1570
01:34:03.199 --> 01:34:05.560
the top of the hill. We couldn't see it, but

1571
01:34:05.600 --> 01:34:08.640
we had heard it, and my brother was like two

1572
01:34:08.680 --> 01:34:11.600
hundred yards away. Bought him in the hill and he

1573
01:34:11.640 --> 01:34:15.039
says what And the world was at I said, I

1574
01:34:15.039 --> 01:34:17.840
don't know. I said, I couldn't hear it or I

1575
01:34:17.880 --> 01:34:20.840
couldn't see it, And my son says, I couldn't see

1576
01:34:20.840 --> 01:34:25.319
it either, and uh, that was two hundred yards away.

1577
01:34:25.359 --> 01:34:28.960
He heard that, so we didn't know what it was.

1578
01:34:30.399 --> 01:34:34.399
Next year we come hunting back there. That land is marked.

1579
01:34:35.520 --> 01:34:40.560
It's all private property. Now, oh wow, yeah, So we

1580
01:34:40.600 --> 01:34:45.399
went two valleys over where we had another private spot.

1581
01:34:45.439 --> 01:34:49.239
Then we went to we're down there and there's all

1582
01:34:49.279 --> 01:34:53.439
these trees pushed across all the quad trails. I made

1583
01:34:53.560 --> 01:34:58.159
big trees. We couldn't figure that one out. And then

1584
01:34:58.279 --> 01:35:01.239
me and my son we took a long walk out

1585
01:35:01.279 --> 01:35:04.319
on this ridge and we started walking the ridge back

1586
01:35:05.880 --> 01:35:11.000
and halfway back there's a shooting range that's like five

1587
01:35:11.079 --> 01:35:14.399
hundred yards away from us, and they're still firing bullets

1588
01:35:14.399 --> 01:35:19.680
and everything else. And as we're walking back, we clearly heard.

1589
01:35:20.600 --> 01:35:23.640
And what the hell was that?

1590
01:35:24.159 --> 01:35:27.279
He said. Daddy says, that was a whistle and we're

1591
01:35:27.319 --> 01:35:30.920
walking back and it did again. It whistled. I mean,

1592
01:35:30.960 --> 01:35:34.880
there's no orange anywhere around us. We couldn't find a

1593
01:35:34.960 --> 01:35:40.079
hunter nowhere around us. And then the rest of that

1594
01:35:40.159 --> 01:35:45.479
day things were being thrown at us. We couldn't figure

1595
01:35:45.479 --> 01:35:48.479
it out, so we just marked it down as another

1596
01:35:48.680 --> 01:35:51.479
weird experience for that year. That was two thousand and

1597
01:35:51.680 --> 01:35:57.079
twenty one and two thousand and three. We were hunting

1598
01:35:57.079 --> 01:36:01.960
on another hillside and there was stack rocks up on

1599
01:36:02.039 --> 01:36:04.600
top of this hill. I was like, who in your

1600
01:36:04.680 --> 01:36:08.079
right mind could have gone climbing to the top of

1601
01:36:08.079 --> 01:36:13.199
this mountain and stack rocks and it was just the

1602
01:36:13.239 --> 01:36:17.279
weirdest thing. We didn't get to see that day, and

1603
01:36:18.119 --> 01:36:22.279
that's when we heard another grunt and I said, yeah,

1604
01:36:22.279 --> 01:36:30.119
we're done, so we left when we said, oh my gosh,

1605
01:36:29.359 --> 01:36:34.159
there was There was like sixty experiences we had, So

1606
01:36:34.840 --> 01:36:39.920
that was twenty twenty one, and then twenty twenty two

1607
01:36:41.439 --> 01:36:45.640
we didn't go nowhere, and it was two thousand and four.

1608
01:36:46.840 --> 01:36:50.680
I think, me, yeah, me and you. We were driving

1609
01:36:50.800 --> 01:36:55.319
up the road. We were spotting for deer and we

1610
01:36:55.319 --> 01:36:58.560
were coming down this this uh haulla in Pennsylvania, it's

1611
01:36:58.600 --> 01:37:03.159
called Ahalla, and we were spotting deer and the wife's

1612
01:37:03.199 --> 01:37:05.560
on the right hand side. I'm on the left hand side.

1613
01:37:05.920 --> 01:37:08.399
There's a real steep hill on the left hand side,

1614
01:37:09.000 --> 01:37:11.960
and as we're going down the road, she spotss deer

1615
01:37:12.039 --> 01:37:14.880
and the'se deer. They're not looking at the light. They're

1616
01:37:14.920 --> 01:37:18.239
looking up, you know. And she says, she said, what

1617
01:37:18.319 --> 01:37:20.199
are they looking at? I said, I don't know. Give

1618
01:37:20.239 --> 01:37:21.720
me the light and I looked at her on the

1619
01:37:21.760 --> 01:37:26.439
other side. Dude, I'm telling you what. It was like

1620
01:37:26.720 --> 01:37:31.479
seven foot high and it had red eyes. And I said, says,

1621
01:37:31.520 --> 01:37:35.079
everybody else see this. My son looked over and my

1622
01:37:35.119 --> 01:37:38.359
wife looked over, and they said, well, what has red eyes?

1623
01:37:41.079 --> 01:37:44.880
I said, I says, I think how has red eyes?

1624
01:37:45.199 --> 01:37:47.920
But they're not like seven inches apart.

1625
01:37:49.279 --> 01:37:50.800
Yeah, right, exactly.

1626
01:37:52.000 --> 01:37:52.279
Weird.

1627
01:37:52.720 --> 01:37:54.920
So we went down the road and turned around and

1628
01:37:54.920 --> 01:37:58.800
we come back and we're like driving super super slow,

1629
01:37:59.560 --> 01:38:02.399
and by and them beer were gone. And we looked

1630
01:38:02.399 --> 01:38:05.680
back up on the hill and we're waiting and we're looking.

1631
01:38:06.239 --> 01:38:09.279
Next thing, I know, pow, a rock hits the back

1632
01:38:09.319 --> 01:38:10.319
of the car.

1633
01:38:10.800 --> 01:38:12.199
I say, what the.

1634
01:38:12.319 --> 01:38:14.479
Heck was that? My wife says, I don't know, but

1635
01:38:14.520 --> 01:38:17.279
he hit the back of the car. Drove up just

1636
01:38:17.319 --> 01:38:21.479
a little bit more. Pow, another rock hit the door,

1637
01:38:22.279 --> 01:38:27.640
and both of them dans are still in that vehicle today.

1638
01:38:27.760 --> 01:38:29.600
I said, I don't care what it is. We're out

1639
01:38:29.600 --> 01:38:34.039
of here. He drove we took off. So we were

1640
01:38:34.039 --> 01:38:38.560
coming back from shopping one day and I was saying,

1641
01:38:38.880 --> 01:38:40.880
and I said, it was right up on the hills

1642
01:38:40.880 --> 01:38:46.680
where we saw them, them creatures, their red eyes. Holy smokes.

1643
01:38:47.239 --> 01:38:51.680
The one I saw was standing up on a flat

1644
01:38:51.880 --> 01:38:55.479
behind all these trees. I'll bet you it had to

1645
01:38:55.479 --> 01:38:59.680
be ten foot tall. My wife seemed one standing on

1646
01:38:59.720 --> 01:39:02.640
the other hillside. I wasn't even looking at that one.

1647
01:39:03.439 --> 01:39:06.760
And she said, would you say, that looks like refrigerator.

1648
01:39:06.840 --> 01:39:11.560
He said, for a Volkswagen. Yeah, so it looked like

1649
01:39:11.560 --> 01:39:16.960
a Volkswagen standing up. It was just huge. And me myself,

1650
01:39:17.079 --> 01:39:19.680
I'm driving trying to look at it and trying to

1651
01:39:20.000 --> 01:39:22.920
be safe so I didn't hit anything. And we're coming

1652
01:39:22.920 --> 01:39:25.399
across the bridge and I looked at her and I

1653
01:39:24.840 --> 01:39:27.840
was She looked at me. We both had that same thing,

1654
01:39:27.880 --> 01:39:32.880
and she goes, did you see what I seen? I

1655
01:39:32.960 --> 01:39:37.560
was like, well, I seen a figure up on top

1656
01:39:37.560 --> 01:39:40.479
of a hill. And she goes, I seen a figure

1657
01:39:40.560 --> 01:39:44.680
standing between them poles. And until this day, we keep

1658
01:39:44.760 --> 01:39:47.119
driving past here, we keep looking up on a hero.

1659
01:39:47.239 --> 01:39:52.439
We never seen him again, but that was in two

1660
01:39:52.520 --> 01:39:56.880
thousand and four. In two thousand and five, me and

1661
01:39:56.920 --> 01:40:03.920
my grandson. Huh, I'm sorry, dear. Anyways, two thousand and six,

1662
01:40:04.000 --> 01:40:08.039
I took my grandson hunting with me. So we're going

1663
01:40:08.119 --> 01:40:12.159
down in this a different area, a little bit further

1664
01:40:12.199 --> 01:40:15.119
away from where we were hunting, and we had permisson

1665
01:40:15.159 --> 01:40:18.720
to hunt on his property, and I was taking the

1666
01:40:18.760 --> 01:40:21.880
grandson with me. I'm showing him how to hunt brand new,

1667
01:40:22.199 --> 01:40:25.359
you know, fifteen year old boy, learn how to hunt.

1668
01:40:25.479 --> 01:40:28.520
Go on with this, pap app. I set him on

1669
01:40:28.560 --> 01:40:30.600
a tree and I said, I'm going to go look

1670
01:40:30.640 --> 01:40:33.760
over the hill. So I walk away from my grandson

1671
01:40:33.880 --> 01:40:36.399
and he's sitting there and he calls me on radio

1672
01:40:36.399 --> 01:40:39.199
and says, papap, there's a guy over here dressed in

1673
01:40:39.279 --> 01:40:45.319
black and he's looking at me. I said, what I said,

1674
01:40:45.399 --> 01:40:47.920
you know, it's the first day a buck. He's got

1675
01:40:47.920 --> 01:40:50.640
to have ores on. No, this guy's in black and

1676
01:40:50.680 --> 01:40:54.840
he's looking at me. I worked my way back to

1677
01:40:54.920 --> 01:40:57.159
the top of that hill. I get up there and

1678
01:40:57.239 --> 01:41:00.439
I just walked the crest of the hill. He goes, look,

1679
01:41:00.479 --> 01:41:05.680
he's standing right there and he says he's gone. I

1680
01:41:05.720 --> 01:41:09.000
was like, holy smoke. He says, pap, I'm telling you,

1681
01:41:09.000 --> 01:41:12.000
he said this one was black. It was Harry and

1682
01:41:12.039 --> 01:41:13.439
it was bought my size.

1683
01:41:14.239 --> 01:41:15.720
I said, wow, that.

1684
01:41:18.199 --> 01:41:19.800
So I don't know.

1685
01:41:20.000 --> 01:41:22.600
The rest of that day, we kept hearing the hoops

1686
01:41:23.319 --> 01:41:26.880
and he says, what is that and I said, I

1687
01:41:26.880 --> 01:41:28.800
honestly god, I said, I don't know. And I said,

1688
01:41:28.800 --> 01:41:30.520
I'm not going to scare you. I said, I think

1689
01:41:30.600 --> 01:41:33.920
I know what it is. And we joked about it

1690
01:41:33.960 --> 01:41:37.960
for the rest of the day. So we went back

1691
01:41:37.960 --> 01:41:40.800
there like three days later, and we were walking the

1692
01:41:40.880 --> 01:41:43.239
creek and as we're downing through the bottom of the curtain,

1693
01:41:44.199 --> 01:41:47.840
a rock come flying down beside us. And we looked

1694
01:41:47.920 --> 01:41:51.079
up on the hill and there's this like a six

1695
01:41:51.119 --> 01:41:54.800
foot triangle and it was at the top of the hill.

1696
01:41:55.800 --> 01:41:59.239
And I pulled his scope out because I had three

1697
01:41:59.279 --> 01:42:01.760
to nine jacket all with the nine and I was

1698
01:42:01.760 --> 01:42:05.239
looking on top of you and I said, grandson, I said,

1699
01:42:05.479 --> 01:42:07.720
whatever that is up there, I said, it's got hair.

1700
01:42:09.199 --> 01:42:11.439
And he took the scope and he looked up there

1701
01:42:11.520 --> 01:42:15.640
and he said, pap, he says, that thinks moving. And

1702
01:42:16.119 --> 01:42:19.359
as we both went to go look again, it was gone.

1703
01:42:20.039 --> 01:42:27.920
So whatever critters are living near us in Pennsylvania, they

1704
01:42:27.960 --> 01:42:30.600
can stay there. We don't have a problem with them.

1705
01:42:30.640 --> 01:42:33.680
They don't mess with us. They do let us know

1706
01:42:33.760 --> 01:42:38.960
they're there. And once we saw him that one day

1707
01:42:40.119 --> 01:42:45.960
I'll tell you, look, there are bigfoot, and since i've

1708
01:42:46.000 --> 01:42:49.239
seen them, I can't say that. You know, I can't

1709
01:42:49.319 --> 01:42:53.640
believe because it's real. Them critters are real.

1710
01:42:55.239 --> 01:42:58.840
Wow, that's that's some really wild stories. Did you say

1711
01:42:58.880 --> 01:43:01.039
this is northeast Pennsylvania.

1712
01:43:03.039 --> 01:43:09.439
Yeah, yeah, it's actually uh right next to Ohio. We'll

1713
01:43:09.479 --> 01:43:16.159
put it that way. Okay, So yeah, story, make sure

1714
01:43:16.239 --> 01:43:19.119
you say it's in Pennsylvania. Don't tell where it's at

1715
01:43:19.800 --> 01:43:25.279
because people go out and try to look for the critters.

1716
01:43:25.319 --> 01:43:26.399
You know what I mean. I don't want to.

1717
01:43:26.479 --> 01:43:29.359
Oh, I get it, I get it. Yeah, absolutely well.

1718
01:43:29.439 --> 01:43:32.960
I appreciate you you coming up and sharing what you've

1719
01:43:32.960 --> 01:43:35.239
experienced over the years.

1720
01:43:35.720 --> 01:43:36.560
I appreciate that.

1721
01:43:36.680 --> 01:43:39.680
Man. You can go ahead and use everything I said,

1722
01:43:39.760 --> 01:43:42.199
and that is not a problem I haven't all written down.

1723
01:43:43.680 --> 01:43:46.279
Thank you, Johnny. Have a good night you too.

1724
01:43:46.359 --> 01:43:46.560
Man.

1725
01:43:48.720 --> 01:43:53.119
All right, guys, I didn't know that tonight was going

1726
01:43:53.199 --> 01:43:57.760
to be just as crazy as last night. I am

1727
01:43:57.840 --> 01:44:01.279
going to actually call it tonight because I am exhausted.

1728
01:44:02.600 --> 01:44:07.800
But thank you so much everyone for hanging out. I

1729
01:44:07.880 --> 01:44:11.920
know there's for everyone who is still waiting. If you

1730
01:44:12.000 --> 01:44:17.720
are wanting to share your account, you can send me

1731
01:44:17.760 --> 01:44:22.039
an email right now at Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com.

1732
01:44:22.520 --> 01:44:25.920
I'd love to hear from you, or make sure you're

1733
01:44:26.000 --> 01:44:28.560
subscribed to this channel. Have you ever heard all the

1734
01:44:28.640 --> 01:44:32.840
accounts of bigfoot activity around Oakridge, Oregon and you think

1735
01:44:32.880 --> 01:44:35.520
to yourself, Man, I would love to get out in

1736
01:44:35.520 --> 01:44:38.920
those woods and experience it for myself. Well, guess what

1737
01:44:40.039 --> 01:44:43.119
this year you can If this is interesting to you,

1738
01:44:43.880 --> 01:44:47.920
stay tuned because it's pretty cool. Sasquatch Summer Fest is

1739
01:44:48.119 --> 01:44:52.039
coming up July tenth through the eleventh, twenty twenty six.

1740
01:44:52.560 --> 01:44:55.600
It's going to be even better than the previous year's

1741
01:44:56.119 --> 01:44:59.359
reason number one, I'll be one of the speakers. It's

1742
01:44:59.399 --> 01:45:04.760
going to be wild. I'll probably I'll say this. There

1743
01:45:04.800 --> 01:45:08.760
may be stuff you haven't heard anywhere else, because let's

1744
01:45:08.800 --> 01:45:13.319
just say sometimes it's well, you just got to be there.

1745
01:45:13.560 --> 01:45:16.079
We'll leave it that more about looking for Bigfoot in

1746
01:45:16.119 --> 01:45:19.319
the Oakridge Woods. Now check this out. You may know

1747
01:45:20.039 --> 01:45:25.279
Jason Kenzie from his documentary series Searching for Sasquatch. Well,

1748
01:45:25.319 --> 01:45:29.000
this year you can not only go to the festival,

1749
01:45:29.359 --> 01:45:37.239
but you can also sign up for a track deep

1750
01:45:37.279 --> 01:45:40.640
in the wild forest outside of Oakridge with Jason Kenzie

1751
01:45:41.560 --> 01:45:45.199
to the Bigfoot spots to look for Bigfoot. There's only

1752
01:45:45.239 --> 01:45:49.399
eight spots to sign up for this, and yes, this

1753
01:45:49.439 --> 01:45:52.359
will also be filmed for the next chapter in his

1754
01:45:52.439 --> 01:45:55.800
documentary series, which is Searching for Sasquatch. This is a

1755
01:45:55.800 --> 01:45:58.319
once in a lifetime deal. It's just trust it's going

1756
01:45:58.359 --> 01:46:03.159
to be a wild, wild experience. To get a ticket,

1757
01:46:03.520 --> 01:46:07.520
head on over to Sasquatch Summerfest dot com and listeners

1758
01:46:07.520 --> 01:46:13.720
can use the code bsp like Bigfoot Society Podcast in

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order to get a two day pass for the price

1760
01:46:16.039 --> 01:46:20.520
of a one day pass. So thanks to Priscilla for

1761
01:46:21.359 --> 01:46:27.039
giving me that code so that you guys can can

1762
01:46:27.079 --> 01:46:31.439
get a little help with the cost there. Appreciate that, Priscilla.

1763
01:46:31.920 --> 01:46:35.119
I hope to see you at the booth in Oakridge

1764
01:46:35.119 --> 01:46:38.560
this year. We can talk about your encounter. Was able

1765
01:46:38.600 --> 01:46:40.880
to talk to so many people last year and the

1766
01:46:40.960 --> 01:46:45.079
year before. It is an incredible time. You're not going

1767
01:46:45.159 --> 01:46:46.960
to want to miss it, and I'll see you there.

1768
01:46:49.239 --> 01:46:51.560
Before we wrap this episode, I want to say something

1769
01:46:51.600 --> 01:46:54.840
directly to a very specific group of listeners. If you're

1770
01:46:54.840 --> 01:46:58.600
in the military, any branch or forces, and if you've

1771
01:46:58.640 --> 01:47:01.479
seen something that no one can explain, or if you're

1772
01:47:01.479 --> 01:47:04.760
a National Park ranger or forestry worker who's been told

1773
01:47:04.800 --> 01:47:07.760
to stay quiet, or if you're a pilot who's seen

1774
01:47:07.880 --> 01:47:11.079
something strange down on the ground, or if you're with

1775
01:47:11.159 --> 01:47:14.720
the FBI a federal agency, or working intelligence and you

1776
01:47:14.840 --> 01:47:17.960
stumbled upon something you're not allowed to talk about. And

1777
01:47:18.000 --> 01:47:21.359
if you're a firefighter, paramedic, or search and rescue responder

1778
01:47:21.439 --> 01:47:24.720
who's heard screams or found tracks that didn't make sense.

1779
01:47:25.239 --> 01:47:28.600
If you're in the logging industry on a remote oil

1780
01:47:28.720 --> 01:47:31.880
field or a trucker with government contracts and you've had

1781
01:47:31.920 --> 01:47:35.560
something happen that you've never told a soul. And if

1782
01:47:35.560 --> 01:47:39.239
you're a biologist, a wildlife specialist, or a field researcher

1783
01:47:39.359 --> 01:47:43.000
under contract who has found evidence you're not allowed to report.

1784
01:47:43.560 --> 01:47:46.039
If you're a pastor, a missionary, or someone on a

1785
01:47:46.039 --> 01:47:49.520
spiritual retreat and you saw something that shook your faith,

1786
01:47:50.239 --> 01:47:53.359
or if you work in the shadows, CIA, NSA, or

1787
01:47:53.399 --> 01:47:56.760
anything with clearance and you've seen what the public hasn't,

1788
01:47:58.079 --> 01:48:01.560
then I want to talk to you, even if it's anonymous.

1789
01:48:03.319 --> 01:48:06.920
You can reach me at Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com.

1790
01:48:07.319 --> 01:48:09.760
The world needs to hear what you've been forced to

1791
01:48:09.760 --> 01:48:15.560
carry alone, and you're not alone. You've got the story,

1792
01:48:16.079 --> 01:48:19.920
We've got the mic. See you in the woods. Thank

1793
01:48:19.960 --> 01:48:22.840
you for listening to this episode of the Bigfoot Society Podcast.

1794
01:48:22.920 --> 01:48:25.319
Every encounter we share reminds us that the world is

1795
01:48:25.359 --> 01:48:28.479
bigger and stranger than we think, and that the truth

1796
01:48:28.560 --> 01:48:31.399
is often hiding just beyond the tree line. If you

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