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Oct. 14, 2026

Fisherman Watched Bigfoot for 15 Minutes Near Mt. Jefferson

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For 15 minutes, a fisherman watched a tall, reddish-brown figure gathering cattails from an Oregon mountain lake. Then the wind shifted—and it looked directly at him.


In Bigfoot Society Episode 1219, Ryan shares his encounter near Mt. Jefferson, describing the creature’s movements, its unusual behavior, and the detail he returned to measure the following day. He also recounts a nighttime tent collapse near Marion Lake and a rain-soaked hike from Bagby Hot Springs where calls grew louder behind him before another sound came from ahead.


Other callers share a snowy Washington road crossing witnessed by four relatives, unexplained screams near Naselle, and reports from East Tennessee and Oregon’s Umpqua region.


Join Jeremiah Byron for witness accounts that leave one question lingering: What else is happening beyond the trail?


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You're listening to Bigfoot Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron. In

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this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to bring

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you firsthand encounters from people who say they've seen something impossible.

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From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers to quiet farms

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and crowded highways, the stories come from everywhere, and each

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one leaves us with more questions than answers. These are

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the voices of the people who've lived it. So settle

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in because today you'll hear another account that just might

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change the way you see the woods forever. So stay

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with us. Please keep Jeremiah in your prayers as he

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continues his fight against cancer. For more updates about his

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medical journey, please go to the CaringBridge link in the

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show notes. Thank you. Hey, Courtney, this is Jeremiah. Feel

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free to share what you experienced out there in New York.

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Yeah, we were traveling up there for a car show.

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We have a business I'm trying to build up, and

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we'll head up there with the car. Just left Pine Bush,

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headed toward Albany to go over to Great Barrington of Massachusetts.

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And we were going through this wooded area and heard

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some trees breaking, and.

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I'll email you the coordinates because I have to look

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it back up. It's been back in 2019 that it happened.

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And we heard some trees breaking. We stopped. And we

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heard like something tear within our car. And we looked

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back and all the straps were broken off of our car.

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And we heard a growling yell in a way. And

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we immediately pulled over and looked at everything. And I

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contacted a couple of people up there to see if

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it was normal. And I had to email you the

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guy's name that I got a hold of with his story.

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And so to get a hold of that. But I

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have more information through that. And I'll email all that

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to you. But yeah, it's... It was not a growl

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because I'm Southern Appalachia.

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I'm East Tennessee.

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That's what we, you know, if you go outside in

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the dark out here and you hear your name, no,

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you didn't. You know, that's what I always grew up

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and heard. And that growl was not something that I

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ever really experienced before. And so it was odd, but

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it was also like everything gone quiet. at the same moment.

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And it's like, what, what happened, you know? And so

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it was not the straight line kind of tear either

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on the straps. It was, you know, something tore it.

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And so it was just, um, but yeah, it was wild.

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We were in that like Adirondack wood of New York,

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I guess it was probably, yeah, up through there. And

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it was, Everything went quiet. We didn't know what we

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were encountering. You know, it was, yeah, let's leave kind

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of thing. But at the same time, yes, I'm reading

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the comments as well. It did shake my ribs. You

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could feel it inside of how it wasn't too close,

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but it's... I don't get scared easily, but with animals

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like that, it is.

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Intense of how terrifying that was.

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But, yeah.

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Have you heard anything else that comes even close to that?

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Not recently of that close, but you could definitely hear

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things off in the distance. That kind of sounds close

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to it. It kind of sounds like a bear with

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a mountain lion kind of growl.

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Okay, okay. So like a big roar with some kind

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of scream at the end?

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Yes.

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Yeah, I heard that in Oregon. It freaked me out.

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I heard that in the woods, something like that in

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the woods of Oregon, and it freaked me out, dude.

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Oh, yeah.

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I'll tell you what. It was like time to get

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out of there.

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Oh, yeah.

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And it was, I want to say about an hour

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and a half south of Albany, going through the back

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roads up there. And so it was... it's, uh, you know,

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at first I thought it was a mountain lion, but

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then it had that bear kind of growl and the

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scream of a witch. So it's like, yep, no, we're

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not dealing with, we're not going to be caught outside

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with us, but let's just fix the extra straps. And, um,

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we need to go, you know?

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Wow.

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Well, thank you for, for sharing that. I will be

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definitely looking through my email and, uh, Hopefully continuing that

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conversation with you.

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Oh, yeah.

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I'll have to go through my research and give you

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all the research I have from that in the area

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and the stories that I found from locals.

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Awesome.

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Thank you, Courtney.

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Thank you, big man.

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Have a good one. All right.

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That was a great first call. We had Courtney sharing

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about Southern New York. Hi Marlene, this is Jeremiah. Hi,

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it sounds like you had a really interesting thing happen

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back in 1978. Would you mind sharing?

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Yeah, me and my husband and my brother and sister-in-law

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were all going sledding way up in the logging roads

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in Nassau. That's along Highway 4, down by the coast,

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the bottom of the state. And we were coming back

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down off the mountain, going home and All of a sudden,

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it was snowing real heavy, and it was about a

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foot of snow on the ground. We had chains on

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all four tires so we could, you know, make it

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up there to go sledding. And when we were driving down,

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and all of a sudden, a Bigfoot just walked across

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the road. Just like you see the Patterson thing, it

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turned its head, turned around and saw us coming. I

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think we caught it off guard because you know how

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when you drive in the snow with chains and it's

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real quiet?

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Mm-hmm.

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I don't think he expected us to be way up

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there at that time because of the snow or something.

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But he walked right across the road and it was

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real steep there and my husband was driving and he said,

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should we stop or what should we do? No, no, no,

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just keep going. We didn't know what that thing could

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do to us, you know. And so by the time

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we got down, we couldn't really stop because it was

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so steep and there was so much snow on the road.

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But we looked in the woods there in that area

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where he crossed and we didn't see him inside the

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woods there. He had took off so fast, I guess.

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That's incredible.

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Yeah, many people have seen Bigfoot in that same area.

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And so, real quick.

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One guy said that.

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He was out early in the morning getting ready to

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go hunting and he was sitting in the car waiting

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for daylight and drinking some coffee and all of a

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sudden it was still dark and something jumped up on

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the back bumper of the car. It jumped up and

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down and the front tires came off the ground.

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Really?

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Really.

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Yeah, and he said he went downtown to the local

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pub that night, and he had a bunch of his

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buddies get on the back of the car and try

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to get the tires to come up, you know, and

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he couldn't do it.

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Wow.

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So he said it had to have been something like that.

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But he got so scared, he said he just took off.

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I'm sure he was out of there. I don't blame him.

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Yeah, he said he.

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Should have turned, flipped the car around and seen with

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the lights what it was.

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Right.

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He said that was an afterthought.

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Marlene, about your specific sighting, do you remember any details

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that you saw that kind of took you off guard?

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No, just that it was, you know, just tall, dark

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figure walking, you know, upright.

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And.

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It was just dark hair all over, the basic Bigfoot sighting.

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I guess.

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Sure.

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Do you remember anything about the color of the hair?

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It was just brown, but it was heavy snow.

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It was really heavy.

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Snow that day, snowing. And my daughter told me that

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she saw Bigfoot one time, but she was too scared

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to tell me when she was little.

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Oh, wow.

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We were going camping, and we were driving up the

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logging roads, and she said it was crouched down behind,

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and she didn't tell me until just a couple years ago.

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It was crouched down behind a stump that was alongside

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the road. And she said it was looking like, you know,

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hiding behind that stump. And she didn't want to go camping.

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She just kept telling me and telling me she wanted

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to go home. She wanted to go home because she

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was scared to sleep up there after she saw that. Wow.

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Interesting.

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Did you say that was a similar, similar to the

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area where you had your original sighting?

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In the same area in my niece and her friends

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were always horseback riding when they were younger and that,

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and then same area also. And she said they saw

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one one day when they were out in the woods

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riding horses. So I think there's something living right there.

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I would say so. There's that just a ton of

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sightings over the years. Um, Would you put what you

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saw that day, would you say it was more ape-like

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or human-like or something that's not even either camp?

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It was just, it was tall, you know, walked kind

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of like human-like, but it was just covered in hair.

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I don't know.

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It was a little bit of distance off, maybe a

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couple hundred feet away from where we were.

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Yeah.

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So it was a little ways. But it started walking

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across the road, and it just turned, you know, and

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looked at us, kind of stopped for a second, and

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then just hightailed it out of there. So many people

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see it there in that same area.

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That's exactly what it sounds like. What county is this again?

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Waukegan County. It's right on the edge. My house was

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right there, too, not too far. probably a couple miles

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as the crow flies, my house was. And you know,

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when we were kids, we used to always be looking

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up in the woods. We always played in the woods

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when we were kids there. And one day when we

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were in the backyard, Mom was hanging clothes on the

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line and something threw a rock past her.

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And she hollered at us.

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Kids to go look out in the bushes and see

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who was out there throwing rocks at her. And it

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was a big rock. And Then I found out years

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later that they throw rocks at people to kind of

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startle them or whatever.

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Absolutely.

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Wow.

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But that was in the same area also.

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I'm sure you've heard many accounts over the years. Marlene,

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have they all been non-aggressive? Or have you heard any

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accounts where there's actually been an aggressive interaction from the Sasquatch? No,

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I haven't.

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I don't know, but I heard a story about a

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friend's brother who had kind of a nervous breakdown, that

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he had shot one there in the area. And that

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four or five other ones, he got scared and he

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said he shot it. He was out hunting and he

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saw it and he shot it and then he freaked

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out because he shot it. And I guess he said

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four or five other ones came and picked the thing up.

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They didn't kill it or anything. But he said four

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or five other ones and one of them was kind

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of gray haired, like an older one.

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And they picked it up and took it off into

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the woods. And I guess the guy had an actual

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nervous breakdown and he was hospitalized over it. He was

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symptomatic to him. I don't know if you've ever heard

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about that happening.

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Have you ever heard of the siege at Honabi in Honabi, Oklahoma?

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No, I haven't.

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Okay, so just double checking. So it's interesting. What you

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said in that account is very similar to what happened

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in Oklahoma where some others came and then carried off

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the one that had been shot. Yeah, yeah. A similar

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situation also happened in southeast Oklahoma. It's very, very interesting.

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Thank you for sharing that, Marlene.

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Yeah, yeah. And there's been a lot of accounts there

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by my friends, too. They think they witnessed them or

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whatever in that same area. It's between Longview, Washington and

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the coast.

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Yep.

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Highway 4.

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Have you ever heard any accounts of people communicating with

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them in any way?

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No, I haven't. Okay.

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Yeah, nothing in that area. But, you know, Nacelle, Washington

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used to have an Air Force base there. And it's

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up on top of the hill behind the school. And

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it's no longer there. They tore it down. But that area,

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the Air Force base was put there after World War.

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II in 1951.

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It was built there. And I didn't know until recently,

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I was looking in Wikipedia, but the Air Force base

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there was.

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Kind of guarding the coastline.

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And, you know, after the war, watching so the Japanese

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didn't come over or whatever. And they had an Operation

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Bigfoot there. The mission was called Operation Bigfoot. And that's

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the same area where, you know, that I lived.

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Really?

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It wasn't, it's a crow fly, you know, and there's

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lots of timber in between there and where my house is.

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It's full of woods.

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That's extremely interesting. That kind of thing makes you wonder, right?

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Yeah. Yeah, so look it up in Wikipedia. There's more

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information about it. up there, but I took my boyfriend

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camping one time up there, because they have, my family

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has like three lakes up there, they're called the Workalilla Lakes,

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and they're man-made lakes, and they have a boys' school,

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the boys' prison is located in that location now, but

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down the hill from where the main base was up

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on top of the ridge, but the boys go up

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there and they fix up the camp and stuff, so

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it's like free camping up there, and I took my

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boyfriend up there to spend the night one night, and

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I had recently had a broken leg, and so he

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set me all up, and I was walking with crutches

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and stuff, and he set me up in the tent,

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and after I got all set up and on the

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air mattress and stuff, something started screaming. It was just howling,

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just Constant. And he said, he's like, what is that?

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I said, I don't know. And dad used to say

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it was a hooping crane. So my dad was a

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timber faller up in that area. But he said, I

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don't think there's no hooping cranes up here. I didn't

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see anything in the water. And it would not stop.

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It was just screaming and screaming. And it scared me.

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And we couldn't see anything. But it was like right

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after dark and it just kept going on and on.

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And I got scared and I said, I don't want

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to get out of here. And he said, yeah, I

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don't think whatever it is doesn't want us here. And

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it was so odd because I live in Carson City, Nevada.

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I was living in Carson City, Nevada.

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At the time.

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And we drove all through the night just to get home.

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And in the morning when we got home, we turned

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the TV on and National Geographic was on. And somebody

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who was camping in Washington had recorded the sounds of

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the screaming, which they thought was the Bigfoot. And it

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was the same sound that we heard. And it was

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just right when we walked in the door. And he said,

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I think we were meant to hear that.

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Wow.

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That's interesting.

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I think whatever was up there did not want us

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there and wouldn't shut up.

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Marlene, you've got some really incredible stories. Thank you for

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sharing them.

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Lifetime stuff.

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If you ever have any others that you remember or that,

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you know, you hear of anyone, my email is right

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there on the screen so you can reach out if

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you'd like. Bigfootsociety at gmail.com.

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Yeah, there's a lot of stories out of there.

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I bet.

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So, you know, and you hear more all the time

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whenever you talk to anyone about it. You hear more stuff.

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And I just remembered another little one. I guess a

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game warden was camping somewhere up there in the mountains

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with his family one time, and he wandered off to

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go urinate. And when he was out urinating, he saw

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a Bigfoot in the woods watching the campground, campsite. And

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he took his family and got the heck out of there.

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So you hear all kinds of stuff.

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Oh, my goodness.

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I can't imagine having to do that. And then you

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see and you're like, yeah, that's it. I'm never going

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in the woods again. Marlene, thank you so much for

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hanging out for a bit.

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Yeah, sure. No problem. I'm really interested in all that

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kind of stuff, too. I'm always looking at stuff and

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hearing stories and watching on YouTube.

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Yes ma'am well i hope to talk to you again

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someday thank you for coming.

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Up on stage you're good all right have a good

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one love and light.

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All right awesome awesome uh stories from marlene over there

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in southwest washington hey jimbo this is uh jeremiah what's

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going on brother.

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Hey how's it going i live here in roseburg um

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oregon you have a lot of a lot of photos

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um A lot of crazy little funky stuff. Photos I've

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encountered over the years. My photos usually come here from

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the Glide area. And I got some from the Unqua

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National Forest. And I have a few photos right here

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in our backyard in the Callahan Mountains. I have photos. Personally,

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I haven't seen nothing. I've seen some other stuff, but

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I haven't seen Bigfoot. But I've seen photos. I have footprints,

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you know. stuff I've taken photos of, a lot of stuff.

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I just never came out openly spoken with anybody, too,

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for the particular reason that we live in a small town. And,

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you know, I don't want, we own a business out here.

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My family does. I don't want to think everybody thinks

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we're lunatics. So I just kind of kept private about it. But,

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you know, I was like, that's how you think. I

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ran into it right now. I was like, you know what,

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I'll come out and share it. But I have a

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lot of photos. My brothers have stories. We've seen a

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lot of stuff out here, and it's a small town.

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No one really comes out and speaks about it, but

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everybody knows there's stuff around here going on.

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Jimbo, I'll tell you what. I have talked to more

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than a few people from Roseburg already for my podcast.

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There's a few people definitely in your town, more than

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a few, that have had interactions and encounters with you.

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that area is definitely very interesting especially over by umqua

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so you have photos where it's uh you said footprints

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and uh like what other uh things are in the

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photos that you've.

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Seen like uh what would you say like big old

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sticks like i would say like like the uh I

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don't know. You see like structures in the middle of nowhere.

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So I would go on a hike, go on the razor,

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jump off and hike in a particular area where, you know,

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it's very remote. And these logs that are put up

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on the walls or whatever you want to call them,

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made structures.

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Yeah. They're like five, 400 pound logs.

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I mean, just the sheer fact someone lifting them is

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kind of insane. And I just by looking, I'm I

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don't think it's possible.

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I don't think no one's out.

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There building random structures in the middle of nowhere.

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Got photos of that.

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Just random stuff my brother said he has a story

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where they want to talk and he falls and his

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sister oh his mother-in-law saw a baby one running through

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the woods oh wow ran him out they all freaked

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out like during the evening he has a story about

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that he can tell you photos i have.

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A bunch of stuff you know i'll just.

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Love yeah yeah please uh please reach out my my

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email is right up there it's bigfootsocietygmail.com and then i

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would love to Anyone who's had an encounter like that,

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I would love to talk to them. That's a very

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unique one. I don't think I've ever talked to anyone

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who has seen a baby like that, maybe one person

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over five years. That's very rare.

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Yeah, it was small ones. It freaked them out.

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Wow. Yeah, send an email for sure, Jimbo.

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Yeah. Okay, brother.

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You guys have a good one.

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Have a good Sunday.

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Thank you, sir.

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You guys.

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Hey, Tammy, this is Jeremiah. What's going on today, Tammy?

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Well, I was just wanting to tell about a friend

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that I know is very trustworthy.

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He owns some property.

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In East Tennessee near Buck. It's Buck Mountain property. I'm

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sorry my child's yelling in the background. He has had

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two sightings on there.

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He goes up there.

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Let me move somewhere else.

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Sure.

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He goes up there periodically to check on his land

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because sometimes people go up there and camp out and stuff.

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It's really rugged there. A lot of undergrowth. I've been

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up through there before, and I'd say the undergrowth in

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places is probably about 12 foot high, and there's tunnels

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through that undergrowth, and the tunnels are probably... They're really

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big tunnels. I mean, I could walk through those tunnels.

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But anyway, he has seen two up there. I've got

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a picture of one. It's walking up a hill. I

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don't know. It's weird. He took it in the evening.

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He took it through his truck window, and it is drizzling.

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It's not one of those blobs or anything like that,

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but it kind of looks like an x-ray. But you

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can see eye sockets. You can see where it's got teeth.

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It's carrying something around its waist. To me, it looks

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like a pig or a dog, but you can see

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its muscle outlines, its thighs. You can see its shoulder outlines,

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which are big, looks kind of like a weightlifter. But

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it is up there, and I do believe him. He

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has invited us to come up there if we wanted

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to camp out and all that stuff. but I'm too

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scared to even try to do that.

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I may know a guy. If you had sent me

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an email, I would love to continue a conversation with you.

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I may know a guy who would take him up

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on that, an area researcher in East Tennessee. He's a

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good guy. But you said, so you have that photo?

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Yeah, I sure do.

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Oh, wow.

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I can send it to you. I'm not really sure

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how to. I don't know if you've been, I just

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now tuned into your little podcast, but I don't, you

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don't put them up here on the screen or anything,

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do you?

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No, no.

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So I, and we haven't even talked about this, but

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I would assume that this would be an off record photo,

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probably not to share with anyone. Okay. Well, I mean,

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that's what I'm asking. Is that, is that something where

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you wouldn't want me to share with other people or?

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I don't care if you do, and I'm sure he

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wouldn't care just as long as nobody would come on

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his property because those people in Buck Mountain don't care

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to shoot you.

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That's what I hear. So, yeah, if you want to

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send me that photo to bigfootsociety at gmail.com, I would

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love to take a look at that.

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Okay, dear.

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Thank you.

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Great.

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Thank you, Tammy.

476
00:24:35.589 --> 00:24:35.869
Bye-bye.

477
00:24:40.289 --> 00:24:45.490
Wow, that is very, very interesting. I've heard of a

478
00:24:45.519 --> 00:24:48.279
few things happening in that Buck Mountain area of Tennessee.

479
00:24:48.299 --> 00:24:52.119
It's right on the border, I believe, of North Carolina. Hey, Ryan,

480
00:24:52.160 --> 00:24:54.079
this is Jeremiah. It looks like you had a really

481
00:24:54.140 --> 00:24:58.480
interesting thing happen out there by Mount Jefferson. Feel free

482
00:24:58.500 --> 00:24:58.940
and share.

483
00:25:00.220 --> 00:25:02.539
Yeah, so I was camping with my father up there

484
00:25:02.579 --> 00:25:05.940
at Oali Lake, and it was just after the snow

485
00:25:05.960 --> 00:25:07.480
finally melted off up there.

486
00:25:07.500 --> 00:25:08.799
Because it's up at like 5,500 feet elevation.

487
00:25:11.119 --> 00:25:15.079
And so we're up there for a camp trip fishing.

488
00:25:15.880 --> 00:25:20.299
So I went for a little walk and there's an

489
00:25:20.380 --> 00:25:23.960
old road up there. It's the old Brightbush Road that

490
00:25:23.980 --> 00:25:29.059
would go back along the border of the tribal lands

491
00:25:29.079 --> 00:25:34.069
and the Mount Jeff Wilderness. And then it would loop

492
00:25:34.130 --> 00:25:38.509
around and the Forest Service quit maintaining that road. And

493
00:25:38.549 --> 00:25:40.809
so there's a bunch of little alpine lakes there that,

494
00:25:41.089 --> 00:25:43.170
you know, weren't fished a lot.

495
00:25:43.210 --> 00:25:46.240
So I went back right along that road.

496
00:25:46.299 --> 00:25:48.079
There was a couple of little alpine lakes I was

497
00:25:48.099 --> 00:25:53.079
scouting to do some fishing. And when I went back,

498
00:25:53.180 --> 00:25:55.369
it was about the second lake back on that road.

499
00:25:57.500 --> 00:26:00.480
I saw something, I was like, oh, this is kind

500
00:26:00.500 --> 00:26:04.000
of odd back there. My first thought was like, okay,

501
00:26:04.039 --> 00:26:06.480
what's a very tall man in this kind of plaid

502
00:26:06.519 --> 00:26:08.240
golf suit waiting this late?

503
00:26:08.269 --> 00:26:11.390
Because I was just like, that's just, you know, I'm

504
00:26:11.410 --> 00:26:12.509
looking for fishing.

505
00:26:12.970 --> 00:26:15.809
I would expect to see somebody fly fishing in the lake,

506
00:26:15.829 --> 00:26:16.490
you know, waiting.

507
00:26:16.509 --> 00:26:18.309
I said, that's what I would expect.

508
00:26:18.329 --> 00:26:21.869
And I'm going, okay, this is kind of odd because that's,

509
00:26:23.230 --> 00:26:26.069
head to toe now, and this kind of a conical head, like, okay,

510
00:26:26.089 --> 00:26:29.589
wait a minute, that's not a man. And it was

511
00:26:29.710 --> 00:26:33.849
picking cattails out of the lake, and then I looked

512
00:26:33.890 --> 00:26:37.250
closer as I kind of hid myself behind a tree

513
00:26:37.269 --> 00:26:40.049
and kind of poked my head out, and I got

514
00:26:40.089 --> 00:26:44.230
a really close look, and it was hair head to toe,

515
00:26:45.250 --> 00:26:48.650
and it was actually grabbing cattails and throwing it up

516
00:26:49.430 --> 00:26:52.210
onto the bank repeatedly. And I watched this thing for

517
00:26:52.230 --> 00:26:55.910
about 15 minutes do that as the wind was coming

518
00:26:56.009 --> 00:26:59.130
to my face. So I had that advantage as it

519
00:26:59.910 --> 00:27:04.640
didn't get my scent, fortunately. But then as the wind

520
00:27:04.779 --> 00:27:08.400
shifted and blew my wind back that direction towards it,

521
00:27:09.920 --> 00:27:13.480
it got my scent. And as I was poking my

522
00:27:13.519 --> 00:27:17.940
head out behind this large tree, it locked.

523
00:27:17.779 --> 00:27:18.339
Eyes with me.

524
00:27:19.940 --> 00:27:23.380
And it was not like a scary deal or anything.

525
00:27:23.480 --> 00:27:28.289
I didn't feel threatened. But then it turned around and

526
00:27:28.910 --> 00:27:32.630
got out of the lake, picked up its cattails, walked

527
00:27:32.670 --> 00:27:36.549
about 15 feet up the hill to the top of

528
00:27:36.589 --> 00:27:40.059
the bank, and then turned around, put its hand up

529
00:27:40.160 --> 00:27:42.640
on a tree and kind of ducked under this branch

530
00:27:42.660 --> 00:27:45.279
and and just kind of looked at me for a second,

531
00:27:45.839 --> 00:27:48.519
and then I walked off into the woods, and that

532
00:27:48.579 --> 00:27:52.670
was the end of the sighting. I went back the

533
00:27:52.750 --> 00:27:57.230
next day with this large, like, meter stick, you know,

534
00:27:57.250 --> 00:28:02.230
like those large, it's like a meter stick, you know,

535
00:28:02.490 --> 00:28:05.480
a measuring stick, and I went back to kind of

536
00:28:05.539 --> 00:28:08.839
see about how large that branch was, and I kind of.

537
00:28:11.619 --> 00:28:13.599
Went up there and I'm like five foot eight.

538
00:28:13.640 --> 00:28:16.269
So I'm not that tall, but I reached way up

539
00:28:16.329 --> 00:28:18.269
there and I kind of reached where I thought I would,

540
00:28:18.569 --> 00:28:20.009
you know, where it'd be. And I kind of hit

541
00:28:20.069 --> 00:28:23.109
it and looked down and that thing measured to be

542
00:28:23.130 --> 00:28:28.109
about eight feet tall. So that's the end of the

543
00:28:28.150 --> 00:28:29.650
sighting I had. And the thing was kind of a

544
00:28:30.150 --> 00:28:33.329
more of a reddish color and being that time of

545
00:28:33.390 --> 00:28:37.230
year and the snow kind of melted off. You know,

546
00:28:37.289 --> 00:28:38.910
I saw that thing come out of the lake. It

547
00:28:38.950 --> 00:28:41.490
was kind of really lanky and skinny. Like it was

548
00:28:41.509 --> 00:28:44.410
kind of, you know, malnourished about that time of year.

549
00:28:45.450 --> 00:28:48.579
So, but yeah, that's the end of my sighting.

550
00:28:49.880 --> 00:28:52.880
That is, that's incredible. Thank you for sharing that. I mean,

551
00:28:52.920 --> 00:28:55.259
that's such a long time to have a sighting. You

552
00:28:55.279 --> 00:28:56.539
said about 15 minutes.

553
00:28:57.500 --> 00:28:57.960
Yeah.

554
00:28:57.980 --> 00:29:00.500
I think I was, the only reason why I had

555
00:29:00.539 --> 00:29:04.589
that advantage because the wind was blowing and in my

556
00:29:04.670 --> 00:29:05.890
face and in my direction.

557
00:29:05.970 --> 00:29:08.950
So my scent was blown the other direction. So, right.

558
00:29:10.809 --> 00:29:13.170
Were there any things that you noticed during that time

559
00:29:13.230 --> 00:29:15.799
that were like, wow, this is different than what I've

560
00:29:16.130 --> 00:29:19.160
heard about these things before or anything that really like

561
00:29:19.200 --> 00:29:19.799
took you back?

562
00:29:21.420 --> 00:29:23.279
You know, the only, the only other thing is, is,

563
00:29:23.720 --> 00:29:28.839
is I didn't feel threatened. Um, it was, it was

564
00:29:28.880 --> 00:29:32.680
a calm and peaceful place. There was no grunting. There

565
00:29:32.700 --> 00:29:34.660
was no bluff charging. There was no nothing.

566
00:29:34.680 --> 00:29:38.990
It just as it after it started.

567
00:29:40.349 --> 00:29:42.349
Me and then we locked eyes and we, and it

568
00:29:42.390 --> 00:29:45.230
noticed me and I got up the hill and it

569
00:29:45.250 --> 00:29:47.869
took a second look at me, you know, it just,

570
00:29:47.950 --> 00:29:50.299
it was just kind of wanting, wanting to wander off and,

571
00:29:50.559 --> 00:29:52.630
you know, it was just kind of wanting to get away.

572
00:29:52.650 --> 00:29:52.710
So.

573
00:29:53.690 --> 00:29:54.319
Absolutely.

574
00:29:55.099 --> 00:29:58.809
Did you notice any emotions or, in the face as

575
00:29:58.869 --> 00:30:00.890
you were looking at it for that long?

576
00:30:01.710 --> 00:30:05.250
It was totally emotionless. Really? You know, it was just

577
00:30:05.289 --> 00:30:08.579
kind of like, it didn't feel threatened by me. I

578
00:30:08.619 --> 00:30:09.299
didn't have, you.

579
00:30:09.299 --> 00:30:11.259
Know, I just had fishing gear on me, you know,

580
00:30:11.299 --> 00:30:13.539
and I was, I was wanting to fish, you know,

581
00:30:13.579 --> 00:30:15.559
and it wasn't like hunting season or anything. Cause I,

582
00:30:16.059 --> 00:30:18.599
I think it kind of knew I, I, it was

583
00:30:18.640 --> 00:30:21.750
not a threat. I was not a threat. So kind

584
00:30:21.789 --> 00:30:25.269
of like, you know, I've had experiences just kind of off.

585
00:30:26.359 --> 00:30:29.619
off the Bigfoot thing, but I've had experiences off of

586
00:30:29.660 --> 00:30:33.630
deer season to where I've been able to approach does

587
00:30:33.690 --> 00:30:37.609
and be able to actually touch and pet them, you know,

588
00:30:37.829 --> 00:30:38.990
as I don't have any.

589
00:30:38.890 --> 00:30:40.970
Weapons on me and I'm not a threat to them.

590
00:30:41.630 --> 00:30:43.609
And once I do that, they kind of hop off

591
00:30:43.670 --> 00:30:46.089
and do their thing, you know, so I kind of

592
00:30:46.150 --> 00:30:49.210
feel maybe that's kind of the same thing with them,

593
00:30:49.230 --> 00:30:50.539
you know.

594
00:30:52.400 --> 00:30:57.339
That 15-minute interaction, did you have... Do you have anything

595
00:30:57.539 --> 00:31:01.089
from that day that helps you remember it or is

596
00:31:01.150 --> 00:31:03.759
just your memories that you kept from that day?

597
00:31:04.430 --> 00:31:08.670
It's totally my memories. I mean, it was a clear day.

598
00:31:08.690 --> 00:31:14.250
Like I said, it was mid-July. Like I said, I

599
00:31:14.269 --> 00:31:18.279
remember the snow. We'd gone up like two weeks before,

600
00:31:18.299 --> 00:31:21.380
and there was still two feet of snow on the ground.

601
00:31:22.599 --> 00:31:27.119
So we said, okay, we're not going to camp this weekend.

602
00:31:27.460 --> 00:31:30.720
So we went back, and That's where we went up

603
00:31:30.779 --> 00:31:33.279
to set up camp that weekend because the snow had

604
00:31:33.319 --> 00:31:36.339
finally melted. You know, it was probably, I would say

605
00:31:36.359 --> 00:31:39.910
it was temperature-wise. I remember being still only like in

606
00:31:39.950 --> 00:31:42.289
the mid-50s or so, but it was completely clear.

607
00:31:44.430 --> 00:31:46.089
How old were you again at that time?

608
00:31:47.009 --> 00:31:48.289
I was 24.

609
00:31:48.289 --> 00:31:48.569
Okay.

610
00:31:50.250 --> 00:31:53.250
From what you saw... Did it remind you more of

611
00:31:53.329 --> 00:31:57.289
something that was human, or did it have more ape-like features,

612
00:31:57.569 --> 00:32:00.809
or was it something that could even be anything?

613
00:32:01.230 --> 00:32:04.369
It would seem more like human, but like I said,

614
00:32:04.390 --> 00:32:05.410
with a conical head.

615
00:32:05.430 --> 00:32:10.299
It was head-to-toe hair, and it was kind of more

616
00:32:10.339 --> 00:32:14.980
of a reddish-brown, you know, long, lanky arms.

617
00:32:15.059 --> 00:32:16.619
It was really skinny that time.

618
00:32:16.640 --> 00:32:20.140
And like I said, I think it was really skinny

619
00:32:20.160 --> 00:32:22.799
because it just cut— come out of the winter snow.

620
00:32:23.279 --> 00:32:28.259
So, and like I said, I'm kind of like a.

621
00:32:28.269 --> 00:32:32.769
Survivalist prepper, and I know like for food, cattails, the

622
00:32:32.809 --> 00:32:35.529
roots are food, the socks are food.

623
00:32:35.930 --> 00:32:40.029
You know, and then the tops, you.

624
00:32:39.910 --> 00:32:43.809
Can actually flare those out and actually use those as bedding,

625
00:32:43.910 --> 00:32:47.670
so the whole thing can be used for different things,

626
00:32:47.730 --> 00:32:49.269
and I think it knows it can be.

627
00:32:49.250 --> 00:32:49.970
Used that too, so.

628
00:32:51.130 --> 00:32:51.670
Oh, absolutely.

629
00:32:51.690 --> 00:32:51.849
Yeah.

630
00:32:51.869 --> 00:32:55.930
We used to make pancakes out of, out of cattails

631
00:32:56.289 --> 00:33:00.519
growing up. My father was kind of a similar situation.

632
00:33:02.220 --> 00:33:05.400
When it was taking them, gathering them, did it look, sorry,

633
00:33:05.440 --> 00:33:07.940
did it look more like someone who was gathering them

634
00:33:08.000 --> 00:33:11.440
to use them or just someone who's like getting them

635
00:33:11.519 --> 00:33:12.960
out of there trying to clear a path?

636
00:33:14.220 --> 00:33:16.859
Oh, it was definitely gathering to use them. They would

637
00:33:16.900 --> 00:33:20.500
grab them by the handful and then tossing.

638
00:33:20.099 --> 00:33:23.400
Them up on the bank in a pile. Okay, gotcha.

639
00:33:23.500 --> 00:33:24.500
Definitely for use.

640
00:33:25.160 --> 00:33:28.220
And when it came back out of the lake, it

641
00:33:28.759 --> 00:33:32.240
bent over and grabbed them all, like in both hands,

642
00:33:32.299 --> 00:33:35.980
and then walked up. I mean, it effortlessly walked up

643
00:33:36.029 --> 00:33:40.049
this 15-foot bank with both of them, both hands, so.

644
00:33:41.470 --> 00:33:45.410
Have you ever done any research to see if there

645
00:33:45.430 --> 00:33:47.369
had been other sightings in that same area?

646
00:33:48.230 --> 00:33:51.099
I have looked on the BFRO site, and there has

647
00:33:51.190 --> 00:33:56.140
been lots of sightings in that area.

648
00:33:56.420 --> 00:34:01.380
What I think, honestly, is since that.

649
00:34:02.740 --> 00:34:07.579
Is kind of the crook of Mount Jefferson Wilderness, and

650
00:34:07.619 --> 00:34:09.059
in that area of the wilderness, not a.

651
00:34:09.039 --> 00:34:10.179
Lot of people go there.

652
00:34:11.769 --> 00:34:16.469
The other part of it being Confederated tribes of Warm Springs,

653
00:34:19.039 --> 00:34:21.519
there's not a lot of natives that.

654
00:34:21.400 --> 00:34:24.019
Go in that part of their reservation.

655
00:34:24.900 --> 00:34:29.019
It's almost an area where they can hide out. And

656
00:34:29.219 --> 00:34:34.300
I know personally there's a cave up in that area

657
00:34:34.340 --> 00:34:38.909
within a few miles called Boca Cave. It's a shallow cave,

658
00:34:38.929 --> 00:34:41.820
but it's a very large cave. where they can seek

659
00:34:41.900 --> 00:34:44.980
shelter up there in rain.

660
00:34:44.639 --> 00:34:47.500
And snow and all that stuff. And that's only just

661
00:34:47.639 --> 00:34:48.369
one that I know of.

662
00:34:48.400 --> 00:34:51.420
There could be many other up there because of Mount

663
00:34:51.440 --> 00:34:53.460
Jefferson being a volcanic mountain.

664
00:34:54.019 --> 00:34:56.059
And there could be other lava tubes up there and

665
00:34:56.079 --> 00:34:58.079
all that kind of stuff. Oh, wow.

666
00:34:58.619 --> 00:35:00.800
What county is this in?

667
00:35:02.500 --> 00:35:06.199
That would be Mount Jefferson County in Oregon. Okay, gotcha.

668
00:35:07.380 --> 00:35:08.300
That whole.

669
00:35:08.639 --> 00:35:09.239
Beach County.

670
00:35:10.010 --> 00:35:16.420
That Warm Springs Reservation, that's an interesting spin to this report,

671
00:35:16.539 --> 00:35:20.010
being that it makes you really wonder, you know, why

672
00:35:20.050 --> 00:35:22.829
they're not going to that part of their reservation land,

673
00:35:23.429 --> 00:35:27.050
if maybe they're Stories like don't go in this area.

674
00:35:27.070 --> 00:35:29.170
That's where they hang out. You never know, right?

675
00:35:29.269 --> 00:35:33.670
But yeah, well see also it's good So far up

676
00:35:33.789 --> 00:35:37.320
into the mountains that I think they only use more

677
00:35:37.340 --> 00:35:41.880
the part that's towards civilization as well And it's so

678
00:35:41.940 --> 00:35:47.760
heavily forced and it is just thick with trees so I.

679
00:35:47.920 --> 00:35:51.289
Think there's that that's kind of two of the reasons

680
00:35:51.309 --> 00:35:56.110
that And then maybe in their history and in their

681
00:35:56.150 --> 00:35:59.889
legends that they say, hey, maybe what they call stick

682
00:35:59.929 --> 00:36:04.690
Indians is Bigfoot. I got a friend of mine that's

683
00:36:04.750 --> 00:36:08.250
native that they say, hey, we have stick Indians and we.

684
00:36:08.170 --> 00:36:12.989
Don't deal with these guys. Just stay away from this area.

685
00:36:13.030 --> 00:36:15.119
That's where they are at.

686
00:36:15.579 --> 00:36:18.900
And he's up in the Cowlitz tribe up there by

687
00:36:19.000 --> 00:36:19.440
Mount St.

688
00:36:19.460 --> 00:36:20.739
Helens. Mount St. Helens.

689
00:36:22.530 --> 00:36:25.300
And they've got these, these stories of, Hey, we have

690
00:36:25.380 --> 00:36:28.059
stick Indians in this area and we don't, we don't

691
00:36:28.099 --> 00:36:31.400
go there. Um, but that's a whole nother, that's a

692
00:36:31.400 --> 00:36:33.380
whole nother story from him.

693
00:36:33.400 --> 00:36:35.280
Um, absolutely.

694
00:36:35.300 --> 00:36:35.920
Yeah.

695
00:36:36.280 --> 00:36:41.409
They, uh, uh, but they, it's just, like I said,

696
00:36:41.530 --> 00:36:46.170
you know, um, you know, just another spin on that

697
00:36:46.250 --> 00:36:50.630
reservation is my father was a, uh, surveyor and engineer

698
00:36:50.690 --> 00:36:54.260
for the forest service and, When he was doing all

699
00:36:54.320 --> 00:36:59.900
that stuff in the 1970s and early 80s, he said

700
00:36:59.940 --> 00:37:01.559
there were many times when he went.

701
00:37:01.440 --> 00:37:03.440
Out there, they had to pack in overnight and stay

702
00:37:03.460 --> 00:37:04.019
in a tent.

703
00:37:04.659 --> 00:37:08.889
That they had heard wolves out there at the edge

704
00:37:08.949 --> 00:37:12.590
of the Warren Springs wilderness out there when they were

705
00:37:12.630 --> 00:37:16.530
doing surveying. And officially, they hadn't had wolves.

706
00:37:16.070 --> 00:37:18.590
In Oregon for years out there. Wow.

707
00:37:18.610 --> 00:37:19.360
Yeah.

708
00:37:19.510 --> 00:37:22.349
So, you know, you, you, you can't, you got, you

709
00:37:22.369 --> 00:37:25.130
get two different things kind of going out there and,

710
00:37:25.909 --> 00:37:29.190
you know, then, and where I can definitely see the

711
00:37:29.230 --> 00:37:32.369
big foot thrive out there at the.

712
00:37:32.210 --> 00:37:34.210
Edge of the warm Springs area.

713
00:37:34.269 --> 00:37:36.730
And then also in that upper end of the Mount

714
00:37:36.750 --> 00:37:39.909
Jefferson wilderness, where I know there's gotta be lots of caves.

715
00:37:41.090 --> 00:37:41.550
Absolutely.

716
00:37:41.750 --> 00:37:45.449
Um, just random question. Have you heard of any accounts

717
00:37:45.510 --> 00:37:47.659
down in the Willamette national forest?

718
00:37:49.050 --> 00:37:49.409
Yes.

719
00:37:50.769 --> 00:37:54.070
Specifically by Oak Ridge or around that area?

720
00:37:55.909 --> 00:38:00.159
Not down as far by Oak Ridge, but I have

721
00:38:00.260 --> 00:38:04.079
another possible Bigfoot story. It's kind of a weird event.

722
00:38:04.840 --> 00:38:08.119
Me and a friend were hiking more down Marion Lake.

723
00:38:08.840 --> 00:38:12.280
It's more down, kind of down by Santiam Pass. And

724
00:38:12.340 --> 00:38:15.329
we're down by a mountain called Three Finger Jack, further

725
00:38:15.369 --> 00:38:17.280
south than Mount Jefferson Wilderness. Yes.

726
00:38:18.190 --> 00:38:21.070
And it's more of a swampy area down there. And

727
00:38:21.949 --> 00:38:23.789
so it's camping overnight.

728
00:38:23.929 --> 00:38:26.420
And I had this like an A-frame tent called a

729
00:38:26.440 --> 00:38:30.599
Eureka Timberline. And it was a four-person tent. And it

730
00:38:30.659 --> 00:38:32.780
was the only one I had at that time. And

731
00:38:33.579 --> 00:38:37.139
I'm laying down sleeping. And all of a sudden, I

732
00:38:37.949 --> 00:38:41.570
feel the bridge of that tent collapse.

733
00:38:41.170 --> 00:38:42.960
All the way down on my face, middle of it.

734
00:38:43.010 --> 00:38:43.670
I'm sleeping.

735
00:38:44.429 --> 00:38:46.670
So I take this big old flashlight I have. I

736
00:38:47.170 --> 00:38:49.090
rip the front of the tent open. I come out there,

737
00:38:49.110 --> 00:38:52.019
and that tent springs right back up. And I hear

738
00:38:52.039 --> 00:38:57.679
this big old crash, this black object crash right through

739
00:38:57.699 --> 00:39:02.679
the woods running away from me. And it definitely wasn't

740
00:39:02.739 --> 00:39:05.590
a bear. It was something on two feet. And it

741
00:39:05.650 --> 00:39:08.010
just happened so quick, and I'd just woken up.

742
00:39:08.030 --> 00:39:13.269
You know, it's just kind of like, huh, what was that? Wow.

743
00:39:13.289 --> 00:39:13.360
Wow.

744
00:39:13.960 --> 00:39:15.400
Yeah.

745
00:39:15.460 --> 00:39:19.449
Good on you. I mean, not everyone would have rushed

746
00:39:19.570 --> 00:39:22.849
out of their tent after it, though. That's incredible.

747
00:39:24.849 --> 00:39:27.250
Man. I've always been in situations.

748
00:39:29.760 --> 00:39:34.579
I've always been to something where I've always been able

749
00:39:34.599 --> 00:39:39.860
to remain calmness and I've been able to remain situationally

750
00:39:39.900 --> 00:39:46.000
aware even in really bad situations like that or really

751
00:39:46.059 --> 00:39:49.730
scary situations because I You know, it's just, I don't know,

752
00:39:49.750 --> 00:39:52.880
just some thing in me where I would be able

753
00:39:52.889 --> 00:39:53.570
to do that.

754
00:39:54.760 --> 00:39:55.460
I've had.

755
00:39:57.320 --> 00:40:02.260
Another situation. You know where Bagby Hot Springs is? There's

756
00:40:02.320 --> 00:40:04.659
a nice hot springs. You hike about a mile and

757
00:40:04.679 --> 00:40:08.760
a half into the woods in the bowl of wilderness.

758
00:40:08.780 --> 00:40:14.059
And so anyways, me and a buddy, we hiked in there.

759
00:40:15.280 --> 00:40:18.199
And we'd soaked for about three or four hours, really

760
00:40:18.219 --> 00:40:19.019
nice soak.

761
00:40:18.780 --> 00:40:20.909
In these wood tubs in the middle of the wilderness.

762
00:40:21.909 --> 00:40:27.510
And, um, um, so anyways, we, uh, got done with

763
00:40:27.550 --> 00:40:29.630
our soak and there was only a couple other people

764
00:40:29.710 --> 00:40:31.750
up there this time, but it.

765
00:40:31.710 --> 00:40:34.989
Was really rainy heavy. And then we were hiking about

766
00:40:35.050 --> 00:40:37.739
halfway back down the, the, um.

767
00:40:39.420 --> 00:40:41.440
The trail, which is right next to a river, and

768
00:40:41.460 --> 00:40:44.389
it was like in springtime, so the river was swollen

769
00:40:44.429 --> 00:40:47.349
and flowing, and it was like a heavy spring rain.

770
00:40:47.369 --> 00:40:49.789
And all of a sudden, behind me.

771
00:40:49.809 --> 00:40:49.889
I.

772
00:40:51.389 --> 00:40:55.820
Heard this whoop, whoop, whoop, just really faintly.

773
00:40:56.940 --> 00:41:00.599
And then, you know, our flashlights were kind of going dim,

774
00:41:00.639 --> 00:41:03.400
but we knew the trail really well, so we're kind

775
00:41:03.440 --> 00:41:05.579
of hiking a little fast, and I hear this, and

776
00:41:05.599 --> 00:41:08.000
I go, oh, all right, well, better a little, just

777
00:41:08.019 --> 00:41:10.260
kind of pick it up a little bit, and I

778
00:41:10.300 --> 00:41:11.820
didn't tell my buddy, but I kind of hiked a

779
00:41:11.820 --> 00:41:15.300
little faster, and about a minute later, I heard that

780
00:41:15.420 --> 00:41:20.989
whoop about twice as loud in the consecutive threes, and

781
00:41:21.050 --> 00:41:23.269
I go, oh, my buddy stopped and said, hey, what

782
00:41:23.309 --> 00:41:23.710
was that?

783
00:41:24.070 --> 00:41:26.090
I go, yeah, well, I know what it is. He's like,

784
00:41:26.150 --> 00:41:28.869
what is it? It's a Bigfoot, dude. I was like, no.

785
00:41:28.889 --> 00:41:29.969
He's like, yeah, it is.

786
00:41:31.630 --> 00:41:34.960
So we started hiking a little faster, and all of

787
00:41:34.980 --> 00:41:38.340
a sudden, it did it again. In a second, it

788
00:41:38.360 --> 00:41:42.460
was threes, but it was so loud, it reverberated through

789
00:41:42.480 --> 00:41:46.590
my chest. And that was behind us. And then all

790
00:41:46.610 --> 00:41:51.730
of a sudden, in front of us, we heard this, ah, ah,

791
00:41:52.429 --> 00:41:56.260
just like that. It's like there was one right in

792
00:41:56.320 --> 00:41:58.800
front of us. I had a feeling maybe there was

793
00:41:58.820 --> 00:42:01.219
a family group there, and it was trying to scare

794
00:42:01.300 --> 00:42:02.179
us out of the area.

795
00:42:03.440 --> 00:42:05.599
At that point, we were in a dead run out

796
00:42:05.619 --> 00:42:07.780
of there on that trail. But like I said, we've

797
00:42:07.800 --> 00:42:10.420
been up there so many times, we knew that trail,

798
00:42:10.480 --> 00:42:13.360
so we just did run out of there.

799
00:42:13.159 --> 00:42:15.900
The last quarter mile of that trail to the trail

800
00:42:15.920 --> 00:42:16.699
that had gotten.

801
00:42:16.559 --> 00:42:17.239
A car and left.

802
00:42:19.059 --> 00:42:24.059
We didn't have an active sighting because it was nighttime. But, yeah, that's...

803
00:42:25.369 --> 00:42:29.179
the hearing thing we had. And that's, that's the big

804
00:42:29.260 --> 00:42:32.860
three that I've had with Bigfoot in the, now that

805
00:42:32.920 --> 00:42:37.139
whole area is like say between O'Reilly Lake and that,

806
00:42:37.179 --> 00:42:41.150
that where, where Three Finger Jack is and where Bagby,

807
00:42:41.449 --> 00:42:44.829
Bagby Hot Springs is, that's all within a 15 mile area.

808
00:42:47.849 --> 00:42:52.349
That is, those are some wild, wild accounts. Uh, Ryan,

809
00:42:52.389 --> 00:42:53.550
thank you for sharing that.

810
00:42:53.969 --> 00:42:54.460
You're welcome.

811
00:42:54.619 --> 00:42:57.579
Um, Keep me in mind, you know, if you ever

812
00:42:58.179 --> 00:43:01.909
run into anything else out there, my email is right

813
00:43:01.929 --> 00:43:05.010
there on screen. It's BigFootSociety at gmail.com if you ever

814
00:43:05.190 --> 00:43:06.409
want to reach out to me, okay?

815
00:43:07.050 --> 00:43:07.429
All right.

816
00:43:08.090 --> 00:43:09.730
But thank you for coming up, man.

817
00:43:09.750 --> 00:43:10.769
Yeah, you're welcome.

818
00:43:11.750 --> 00:43:14.530
Have a good one. If you've had a Bigfoot encounter

819
00:43:14.750 --> 00:43:16.630
of your own, I would love to hear from you.

820
00:43:16.650 --> 00:43:21.289
You can send me an email with your encounter. bigfootsociety

821
00:43:21.369 --> 00:43:25.050
at gmail.com. I've come out with a free report about

822
00:43:25.090 --> 00:43:30.409
the top 10 Bigfoot hotspots. You can go over to bit.ly

823
00:43:30.489 --> 00:43:35.510
forward slash BFS report. I'm Jeremiah Byron. Thanks for listening

824
00:43:35.550 --> 00:43:37.619
to Bigfoot Society, and I'll see you in the woods.