July 12, 2026

10-Foot Bigfoot Confronts Family Near Belton, Texas

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One rural property near Belton, Texas has become the center of years of unsettling reports, and this episode documents every one of them.


Jeremiah Byron sits down with Elyot Kucharyski for a conversation that explores a remarkable series of firsthand experiences shared by multiple witnesses on the same property. The accounts include a towering Bigfoot standing beneath the trees with brilliant white eyes, rhythmic wood knocks in the middle of the night, powerful skunk odors, chilling vocalizations, mysterious eyeshine just beyond the tree line, unexplained flashes of light, and a frightened child describing a very tall figure walking through the woods.


As the stories unfold, a striking pattern begins to emerge. Family members, overnight guests, and visitors all describe unusual activity occurring over several years at the same location. Their testimonies paint a detailed picture of recurring encounters that continue to leave more questions than answers.

If you're fascinated by authentic eyewitness encounters, recurring Bigfoot hotspots, and thoughtful conversations about one of the most enduring mysteries in North America, this is an episode you won't want to miss.


Have you had a Bigfoot encounter or unexplained experience?

Resources:

Off Road XFiles investigation on Bigfoot around Belton, Texas: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOlXU2PEzj4


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You're listening to BIGFA Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron. In

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this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to bring

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you first hand encounters from people who say they've seen

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something impossible. From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers to

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quiet farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere,

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and each one leaves us with more questions than answers.

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These are the.

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Voices of the people who've lived it. To settle in,

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because today you'll hear another account that just might change

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the way you see the woods forever.

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So stay with us.

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Please keep Jeremiah in your prayers as he continues his

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fight against cancer. For more updates about his medical journey,

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please go to the carring Bridge link in the show notes.

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Thank you, all right, Big for Society, Welcome back to

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another episode of Got the Privilege of Talking to Elliott Kuharski.

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He is a communications director from Vintage Church in Central

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Texas and I have tried to get Elliott on the

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show multiple times and for some reason it kept getting

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pushed back, and a lot of it had to do

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with my medical recent medical appointments that have had to

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be scheduled and of course it's very evident. Why why

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it's happening right now? I think so, Elliott, welcome to

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the show. And we were talking a little bit before

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before we started up, and I was like, oh man,

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we've got it. This has to be recorded because this

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is going to be really an interesting conversation. So before

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we get talking about stuff, Elliott, is there anything else

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that the listeners would want to know about you for context?

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Besides you're the communications director for the Vintage Church in Texas.

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Yeah, I mean, so, hi everyone, this is this is Elliott. I.

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You know, I've been in ministry since I since I

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graduated high school, So you know, I think ministry in general,

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the ministry kind of mindset is that, especially if it's

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the dark side of the supernatural, we kind of just

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put it off to this corner over here and actually

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not touch it. But for the five percent of people

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that might need help, the ninety five percent of people

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are having experiences with things that are tangible, with things

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that are that are haunting them, and there's no there's

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no background in the church to kind of help combat that.

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And so that's that's a lot of my testimony. I

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actually came to Christ from supernatural encounters that I was

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having from from ghosts to shadow people, aliens. I know

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that's getting into the woo, and so I won't. I

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won't hover too long on that unless you'd like to

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go back to it. But so never Bigfoot. But obviously

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that changed because we're having a conversation about it. But yeah,

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it was me giving my life to the to the Lord.

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I was just being oppressed by so many different things,

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and it really it was only Jesus that those that

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those things had stopped. And I felt not long after that.

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My parents didn't really go to church, so I'm not

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from a church going background at all. This is the

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other kind of interesting thing. My grandparents would go on

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like Eastern Christmas and every other year I would go

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with them. But once I gave my life to Jesus,

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my parents had asked me like, oh, what do you

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want to do when you grow up? I took a

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long pause and I was like, I think I want

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to go into ministry. And their eyes popped out of

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their head. They're like what because they my dad had

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a background in ministry that I had known nothing about

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until like well into me being in ministry, and so

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he had gotten burned by it, and he had actually

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had a lot of similar interactions with the supernatural, which

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you know, we get into generational type stuff and if

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this is all like spiritual kind of Christian you might

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have to go back a few episodes talk or listen

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to to Doc Brown's episode. I know he did a

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really good kind of laying the foundation for a lot

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of the conversation that we're going to have. But so

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I got into ministry and I really felt like what

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the Lord was calling me to do once you have

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these types of conversations and be honest about like the

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dark side of the supernatural, because once we expose the dark,

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then the light just shines that much brighter.

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So that's amazing. It is is wild, how you know,

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I don't. I mean we can, we can hypothesize why.

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of individuals that have do you either have podcasts or

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YouTube channels, and they are being called in to start

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sharing more vocally about God and Jesus Christ, and.

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It's just it's very weird.

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If you get your ears open, you'll start to hear

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it on a few shows and like in particularly like

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Tony Merkle's show. Yes, he's really going through some stuff

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right now, and we had had we had started to

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have a conversation, and I don't I never try to

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lead a conversation, but I think it was really interesting

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what you're starting to share about how you you have

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to travel seven hours to get to Oklahoma and you'd

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kind of been watch watching the show during that time,

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and what you had started to notice, because it'll it'll

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lead to an interesting conversation.

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Yeah, I mean, so my fiance she lives seven hours away.

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So I'm living in Central Texas, she lives seven hours away.

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There's a whole blind date story of how we met.

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But so I've just been I've been listening to your

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show for the past year. So after I had had

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my own experiences, my dad was like, Hey, you've really

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got to listen to this guy, Jeremiah. He's great. Oh

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really Okay.

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Your dad was like, get it. Thanks.

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Then if there's like if there's a crazy scale, I'm like,

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probably over here. He's like, all the way over here.

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past year, especially just binging a lot of your show

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and listening to all these stories and seeing the similarities

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and the things that line up. But the thing that

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I've noticed a lot, and I think it really is

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a sign of the times as as these kind of

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things are getting more apparent. I mean, again getting into

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not really the show's topic, but the UFO stuff, the

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alien stuff. It just seems like there's more stuff, more encounters,

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more information coming out about that. I think we're kind

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of seeing the same stuff with the Bigfoot. I mean,

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the whole Ohio like serves that happened out of nowhere.

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It's just crazy. But I've noticed that it's leading a

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lot of people to the ultimate conclusion of like, well,

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what's what's the answer to this? It's Jesus, It's Christ,

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it's Christ himself. And I've noticed that theme in your

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show a lot. And it's not from a place of like, well,

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you know, it's Bigfoot, but with a Jesus wrapper on it,

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because there are a lot of shows that do that

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where it's like, you know, we're we're going to go

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really deep into the depths, but there's no like really

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coming back out, and you you always end on a

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really hopeful note. And for those that are open to it,

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like talking about talking about Christ and talking about your

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faith and I've just been really encouraged, really encouraged by that,

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and it's honestly what made me want to reach out.

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I was like, Okay, like for sure, we need to

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have this conversation. Okay, that's awesome because we're hitting a

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lot of the same threads and I think it's just

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the Lord. I think it's just the Lord for those

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that have ears to listen and eyes to see that

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the knowledge in those days will increase is what the

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word says, and the word increase is not in terms

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of quantity, but it's quality, the quality in which our

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knowledge will grow. Like we're starting to put the pieces

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of the puzzle together and it's like, okay, we're kind

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of there was a knowledge that was lost, but now

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it's coming back together. If that makes.

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Sense, absolutely, And so I'm a few people have picked

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up on that, and it's so to share kind of

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what happened. I would say about six seven months ago

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at least, it got to a point where I was

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praying to God and I was like, you know, at

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this point, if stuff because before then, if stuff would

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come up, I'd be like, well this isn't kind of

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that show. But I was at the point I was like,

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you know, there needs to be conversations that happen, so

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please help these conversations to just occur organically so we

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can talk about them on the show, so we can

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have conversations to do with different spiritual themes. And I

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mean it started to happen, and it started to you know,

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I would not put the brakes on for those conversations.

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And and there's some listeners who will be like, well,

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you're reading too much and anything, and that's fine, you know,

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but the way that I'm viewing it is that once

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I started to do that, Elliott, there were some wild

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stuff that started to happen. Man, And it's just like,

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oh man, you know, God is in control of everything.

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But like the last few months have been absolutely wild

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with different testing things like how do you how are

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you when?

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And you are, in.

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The entire world's view, how are you when? You tested

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that way? And now you know, it's like the medical

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testing where it's like, okay, now you have a second

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round of cancer and are you going to you know,

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turn away and say how could you do this again?

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Are you going to.

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Rely fully on me as an adult, which which is

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what me and my family are doing. You know and

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and so it is, you know, the future is unknown,

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but we are We're going We're going to go through

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one hundred percent and the goals to keep doing this

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so that we can, you know, continue to have these conversations.

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If God would will it. Whatever He wills is the

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important thing. So I'm glad that you picked up on that.

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I think it would also be if you would be

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comfortable with sharing. I mean, it sounds like you have

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a really interesting story of how you got to this point,

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and I think it's important when individuals have things happen

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in their lives that it all builds together. And yeah,

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it if you would, if you would be able to

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share that, that would be amazing of course.

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Yeah. So I guess going all the way back, my

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great grandparents were into the occult, So that's like that's

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kind of the full stop, like, oh, that's where this

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kind of starts. So my great grandmother was in the

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Eastern Star and my great grandfather was a thirty second

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degree for you, Mason, you can look him up, Colonel

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Jack Hoover. But he was super super into it. My

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dad had got him a little drunk one and set

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up a tape recorder and recorded him and was getting

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him to talk about all these things back in the

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early nineties about project high Jap, project Bluebeam, project paper Clip,

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like all of these different things that weren't public information

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he was he was getting him to expound upon. But

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he was like, okay, now tell me about freemasonry. He

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was like, even under the influence, he's like, I'm never

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given away the secrets of the brotherhood, and so oh yeah,

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it was deep. So there there was definitely more than

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just a natural like there was a spiritual oath that

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was taken to where you know, those those things he

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wouldn't even expound on. But my dad's earliest memory was

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actually being placed on an altar in men in robes

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with candles. So that was my dad's earliest memory. So

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he's he's had a lot of experiences with the supernatural,

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and he can his memory is so sharp like attack

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and so he can just he'll remember things and even

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things that we've experienced together. He's like, hey, do you

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remember that? Like, even as I was making the notes

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for all the experiences we've had, he was like, do

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you remember this.

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Part of it?

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I was like, no, I didn't like making the correlation

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between the two. So he's as sharp as attack. He

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remembers all of these things that he's experienced. And so

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as I was kind of growing up, growing up in

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a Christian household, it was like I was still having

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these encounters. I mean, there was one night and this

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was probably like because I had seen stuff out of

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the corner of my eye. I had seen shadows being

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cast on the wall and then they would just like

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melt down, like just melt into a puddle on the ground.

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And I had also seen like figures running and orbs

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in the sky and that kind of thing. So that

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stuff wasn't new to me. But the first time that

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I was like physically attacked was I had woke up

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one night with scratches all over my body after having

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a nightmare. It kind of it only got more. It

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progressed from there because I want to say about a

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year later, because that would happen every few months or so,

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But about a year later, I'd had an experience to

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where I'd had sleep paralysis. And the way that this

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room was situated was that the bed was on one

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corner and then the closet was on the other, so

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it was like directly adjacent to the closet, and so

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my brother and I were probably like ten to eleven

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at this time. So we're we're on a king sized mattress,

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sharing this bed. This is this is Oklahoma. Come on,

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like there's not enough, there's not enough finances to go

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around for multiple beds for for kiddos. And so he's

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still sound asleep, but I'm waking up and I'm like paralyzed.

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I'm not able to move, and I'm just able to

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look down towards that closet and the door opens, nothing's moving.

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I'm like trying to scream out for my brother something

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like hey, something's going on, and I feel something press

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down on me and like like a dementor, like suck

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the breath out of me. Come to find out, like

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over the next the course of the next week, I'm

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like coughing like super bad. I'm having a hard time breathing,

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and I get diagnosed with pneumonia. And so it's the

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spiritual is so much more real than like the natural

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in like a lot of ways, and it has impacts

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on it. And I think that's a lot of kind

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of what we see with the bigfoot phenomena as well.

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But I as I got as I got older. After that,

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I gave my life to the Lord. So about a

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year after that, I gave my life to the Lord,

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and all of those occurrences kind of stopped happening. And

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so I was about seventeen at the time, and so

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I remember just being like, okay, Lord, like I'm getting

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ready to become a man, like i still don't really

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know what I'm doing, and I'm just trying to figure

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stuff out, Like Lord, I just need you to show

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me the truth, like show me what's going on, Like

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if there's anything that's being hidden from me, show it

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to me. And so I had had a dream that night,

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but I don't I don't think it was a dream

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to where I was on a surgical table and there

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were two beings that looked like the cover of Communion,

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the two or the alien on the cover of Communion.

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There were two of those and they were looking down

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at me. I had never seen that book cover by

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the time. Like after I described it to my dad,

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he was like, did they look like the cover of Communion?

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And I actually have a friend here who's from Oklahoma.

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Whe were born at the same hospital a different time frame.

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He's about fifty five or so, and he was like, hey,

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did they look like the aliens on the cover of Communion.

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I was like, yes, they did. But I woke up

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in just a cold sweat of like, oh my gosh,

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there's there's definitely been some things that that have happened

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to me with the supernatural that I wasn't even like

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considering before I had given my life to Christ, because

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I don't know, I mean, recalling that memory, I don't

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know at what period in time that was, but I

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know it was like me younger, and so yeah, kind

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of kind of from there, I'd had off and on

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experiences with sleep paralysis at the location to where all

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these encounters started happening, and this is kind of like

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the crescendo. This is like the kickoff event, if you will.

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And it does add a lot of background, like going

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into kind of my faith based background does add a

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lot of context to kind of I think where where

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the first encounter happened. But the I was at one

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point staying at a at a friend's house and he's

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got a big property. He has a huge property, and

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there's a guest house on the property, and so I

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was in between houses at this time. I still wasn't

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really making enough. You're not in ministry for the money.

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I wasn't making enough to be able to afford my

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own rent for a place yet, and especially as a creative,

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like there just wasn't enough for that. And so I

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was staying here. And I had woke up one night

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again with sleep paralysis. I had hadn't had sleep paralysis

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since I was that little boy. And I wake up

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and I see at the foot of my bed. The

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room is is dark, like it's darker than dark, because

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I've woken up at like two or three in the

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morning and been able to see like what normal dark

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looks like at that time. This was like darker than dark.

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But I can see on the edge of my bed

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there's what looks like a gargoyle, like full on wings,

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like hunched over, staring at me at the foot of

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my bed. And I'm doing everything i can to get

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up the name of Jesus, and so I'm going Jesus,

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and I finally get it out, and it's like you

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could almost hear like the air being let back into

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the room. It was the craziest thing, but it was

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like the darkness lifted, the gargoyle thing whatever it was

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was gone, and I was able to get up and

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I reached over. I like leaned forward. I remember because

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I was like, oh, trying to move, just trying to

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get up and out, and I heard on the roof

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of this guest house what sounded like two feet running,

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jumping off and going into the woods. And I was like,

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what the heck was that about? And so I talked

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to my dad about all of this, and so I

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tell him about this and he's like, man, like, you know,

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we're coming down there, because this was in twenty twenty three.

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He said, we're coming down there for a Manchester United game.

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We're going to be also staying in another room in

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the guest house, like I'm going to fast and I'm

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going to do spiritual warfare with whatever this is. I

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was like, okay, man, you do you like? That's great.

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I'll just I'll just say the name of Jesus, make

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it go away. But he's he's great that way, because

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he's like he's so focused on his intimacy with the

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Lord that he's like, no, I want to I want

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to get these guys. And so he's fasting over the

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course of that whole week, and so he only told

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me about, like fully this experience what he saw after

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I had told him like, hey, I think I'm having

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experiences with a bigfoot and he's like, funny, you should

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say that, and he tells me the story. So he

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fasted for a week and he wakes up at two

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in the morning and he's like, okay, Lord, like this

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is it, Like let's do this, And so he gets

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a coffee, he pops in a nicotine pouch and he

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walks outside and he's just he's just praising. He's singing

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worship because we enter his courts with thanksgiving and praise,

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and so he's just posturing himself to like be a

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vessel for what the Lord and the Holy Spirit want

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to do. So he's walking around and he's praying in

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front of this guest house and he's looking off too.

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So the guest house faces the north, and he's looking

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off to the east. He's looking over. He's looking around,

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and you can still hear like the crickets, the frogs,

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the chickens. There's chickens on the property, and so he

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can hear all of that. It's like a real nice

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kind of like nature sound. He looks over to the west,

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and there's this tree line, and this tree line is

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like where we've seen everything happen, like it's been all

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most of these experiences that we're talking about today have

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been right on this tree line that's like right backed

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up to the property line. But he sees this big

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orb gets super bright light up the whole sky. Everything

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goes quiet. So he's sitting there and he's had experiences

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with the kind of alien phenomenon, so he's thinking that

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that's what this is. Like, Oh, these are the demons

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that disguise themselves as aliens kind of thing. And so

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he's like okay, and he's still just continuing on, and

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so he's looking over to the west. He pans back

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over to the east, and he's looking he slowly pans

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back and then something catches his eye and he looks

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and what's standing there? And he showed me this tree.

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This tree, it's probably fifteen sixteen feet tall, a lot

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of it. We had some storms, some really bad thunderstorms

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and tornado like weather that actually came through Central Texas,

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which is really rare, but it knocked down some of

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the top of the tree. So it was probably taller

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at one point in time but the bottom branch of

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this thing comes up to about ten feet. He sees

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standing right underneath this bottom branch to where there's like

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maybe an inch maybe two inches between the top of

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this thing's head to the bottom of this tree branch.

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Huge like gargantuan, just bigfoot like there. He described it

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as just having a stump for a head, like there

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was no neck, huge shoulders the size of like watermelons,

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like they were ginormous. The legs were so thick that

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you couldn't see any light going through them anything like that.

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But he said that the thing that struck him the

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most was its eyes. That they were so white. And

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I don't know if I've heard, like I've heard of

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red eyes, I've heard of yellow eyes when it comes

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to a lot of the sasquatch encounters. But they were

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so white that there was like a bluish hue coming.

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Off of them that they.

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Were like emanating their own light. And he's like, he's

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standing there. His eyes are the size of saucers at

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this point, and he's like, oh my gosh, that's really there,

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Like that's not some wispy like thing or whatever. And

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he hears So he told me this afterwards as well,

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he hears whispering. He hears what sounds like whispering coming

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from the tree line, and so he uh, he's like,

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oh my gosh, and he feels the spirit of the

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Lord telled him like you're going to break, Like turn around,

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like you're you're going to This is going to break you.

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And so he turns around and he's telling me like

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he's getting emotional just telling me the story, like he's

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reliving it every time he's telling me the story. But

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he was like, you know, I wanted to fall to

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my knee so bad, but the Lord just kept on

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telling me to stand. And it brought back to my

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mind Ephesian six. Stand therefore having girded yourself and going

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through all the pieces of the of the armor of God.

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But it's that standing, it's it's not giving way to fear.

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And so he lifts his hands and he feels something changes.

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The atmosphere shifts, and it feels like the impact point

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of a nuclear bomb, like just boom, this huge wave

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goes off. And so he still has his back turned

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and he hears the crickets and the frogs and all

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that starts coming back, and he feels the lord telm okay,

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it can turn around. So he turns around and he

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just sits on these adderall and back chairs that are

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out in front of the are in front of the

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guest house, and so he checks the time. So he

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walks out there at two o'clock. This feels like the

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span of like ten minutes. It was four thirty in

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the morning when he checks his checks his phone. So

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I know, lost time is a big is a big

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theme for a lot of these encounters, whether it's bigfoot,

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ghost aliens, all of that missing four one one. But yeah,

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I'll let you speak because I feel like I've been

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hogging hogging some area.

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That's incredible, is it? Are you able to share what

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region of Oklahoma?

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This is? For context?

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So this was this was in Belton, Texas?

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Oh oh yeah Texas.

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Yes.

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So when you had made the report originally about the

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Belton Bigfoot, I was like, oh, yeah, I kind of

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got some validation on it. I ended up watching one

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of uh I can't remember the investigator's name, but that

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went to go check it out and he was.

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Like Jimmy Tungate probably.

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Yes, yes, yeah, he was like, that's kind of inconclusive.

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I was like, dang, that's kind of kind of disheartening.

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But no, because he had had this experience, I was like,

457
00:27:14.759 --> 00:27:19.319
oh my gosh, and so he wasn't able to see

458
00:27:19.359 --> 00:27:21.799
any of the detail, I mean, other than just general

459
00:27:21.839 --> 00:27:25.519
silhouette the way that he described it. And he's a

460
00:27:25.599 --> 00:27:27.920
kid of the eighties, so like he described it as

461
00:27:27.960 --> 00:27:30.440
looking as like Juggernaut from X Men, to where it's

462
00:27:30.480 --> 00:27:35.960
just that dome dome top, like huge shoulders and just

463
00:27:36.079 --> 00:27:39.559
thick legs, to where the arms were super long and

464
00:27:39.599 --> 00:27:40.759
the legs were kind of short.

465
00:27:43.960 --> 00:27:45.279
That's a really good way to put it.

466
00:27:45.359 --> 00:27:47.960
I don't think I've ever had anyone say the jugger

467
00:27:48.039 --> 00:27:52.000
or not a thing, but that makes sense. It's really good.

468
00:27:52.799 --> 00:27:58.160
My goodness, is it a thing? Where have you heard

469
00:27:58.200 --> 00:28:02.759
anything else around Belton? Or this is the one the

470
00:28:02.759 --> 00:28:06.559
one connection that you've had where you saw the Bigfoot

471
00:28:06.599 --> 00:28:09.640
report and then you had your dad's experience.

472
00:28:10.359 --> 00:28:16.079
I mean, I've talked to a couple people that, I mean,

473
00:28:16.160 --> 00:28:19.559
Belton is pretty much part of it is connected to

474
00:28:19.720 --> 00:28:23.480
Fort Hood, and so I've talked to people when I've

475
00:28:23.480 --> 00:28:26.720
shared some of these other Bigfoot stories that have happened

476
00:28:26.720 --> 00:28:30.680
here in Belton on that same property, but I've shared

477
00:28:30.680 --> 00:28:35.799
some of these with people at my church and like, yeah, well,

478
00:28:35.839 --> 00:28:38.559
you know, I was on Fort Hood because our church

479
00:28:38.640 --> 00:28:41.359
is a lot of military people, and so I think

480
00:28:41.359 --> 00:28:44.759
if you present yourself as sincere, as like hey, like

481
00:28:45.119 --> 00:28:46.799
this is something that has happened to me, they're a

482
00:28:46.839 --> 00:28:49.079
lot more open to sharing a lot of that stuff,

483
00:28:49.440 --> 00:28:52.680
especially military guys. Military guys, it's like you get called

484
00:28:52.720 --> 00:28:58.799
crazy for much less. But legitimately had a gentleman that

485
00:28:58.880 --> 00:29:01.519
told me he was like, yeah, I mean I was

486
00:29:01.559 --> 00:29:03.880
on Fort Hood. I was on patrol with a group

487
00:29:03.920 --> 00:29:08.880
of guys and we saw a cubicabra like can't We

488
00:29:08.880 --> 00:29:13.599
were on the field and we were just in our

489
00:29:13.680 --> 00:29:17.680
in our transport, and uh, somebody had a had a

490
00:29:17.720 --> 00:29:20.039
spotlight and they shined it out because we heard like

491
00:29:20.160 --> 00:29:22.759
rustling out in the out in the field, and so

492
00:29:22.880 --> 00:29:24.839
we shined it out and there was this dog that

493
00:29:24.960 --> 00:29:28.119
had like ears like Yoda ears out to the side,

494
00:29:28.799 --> 00:29:33.519
super skinny, long and no hair on it, and it

495
00:29:33.640 --> 00:29:38.359
just looked at him and Uh, one of the guys,

496
00:29:38.680 --> 00:29:40.319
not the guy that's telling me this story, because he

497
00:29:40.359 --> 00:29:43.240
was terrified. He was like, that's a that's a f

498
00:29:43.319 --> 00:29:45.799
and cubicavra. He's like, I'm not doing anything with that,

499
00:29:46.400 --> 00:29:50.559
and one of the guys that was with him started

500
00:29:50.559 --> 00:29:55.680
walking towards it, and this thing bolted like legitimly blink

501
00:29:55.839 --> 00:29:59.880
and it was gone. So, you know, I think there

502
00:29:59.920 --> 00:30:02.240
is is. I mean, you're getting at the dog man

503
00:30:02.400 --> 00:30:05.480
stuff on basis and that type of thing, and so

504
00:30:05.759 --> 00:30:08.759
I don't doubt that here at Fort Hood and in

505
00:30:08.799 --> 00:30:11.759
the area in general, if there isn't some dog man

506
00:30:11.799 --> 00:30:15.759
out here. I mean, that's the Central Texas kind of

507
00:30:16.119 --> 00:30:21.039
folklore for Texas history, for Oklahoma history. You're talking about Bigfoot,

508
00:30:21.079 --> 00:30:23.960
because you're talking about the Native American kind of stories.

509
00:30:24.440 --> 00:30:28.920
For Texas history, it's the dog man when talking about

510
00:30:29.000 --> 00:30:32.839
Native American folklore, and so I do think there is

511
00:30:32.880 --> 00:30:35.839
a precedent for for some of that. I haven't heard

512
00:30:35.880 --> 00:30:38.279
a ton of stories from around here other than the

513
00:30:38.279 --> 00:30:42.759
ones that I've experienced and family and friends have also

514
00:30:42.839 --> 00:30:45.640
experienced at the same spot.

515
00:30:47.640 --> 00:30:50.680
So that's awesome context to have.

516
00:30:50.799 --> 00:30:51.160
Thank you.

517
00:30:51.240 --> 00:30:58.000
So you're saying that you have also experienced cryptid themed

518
00:30:58.160 --> 00:30:59.759
encounters yourself.

519
00:30:59.559 --> 00:31:07.640
Oh yeah, oh yeah, yep. So it's funny because it's

520
00:31:07.680 --> 00:31:14.119
like I have this kind of experience and then this

521
00:31:14.319 --> 00:31:17.799
was so in September twenty twenty four, so this was

522
00:31:18.279 --> 00:31:21.319
about a year later. I tell my dad about this experience,

523
00:31:21.480 --> 00:31:24.880
and so that's what makes him tell me, Hey, like,

524
00:31:25.440 --> 00:31:28.160
I've had this experience at that same guest house, like

525
00:31:28.559 --> 00:31:32.119
just so you know, here's the context for it. So

526
00:31:34.720 --> 00:31:38.480
it was September twenty twenty four, and same thing, similar

527
00:31:38.519 --> 00:31:41.519
to the first encounter that I had that kind of

528
00:31:41.960 --> 00:31:45.559
made my dad fast and pray and end up seeing

529
00:31:46.279 --> 00:31:51.640
a big foot. I woke up at two in the morning.

530
00:31:51.680 --> 00:31:53.960
And it wasn't sleep paralysis or anything like that, but

531
00:31:54.119 --> 00:31:55.799
it was just random that I woke up at two.

532
00:31:55.839 --> 00:31:57.680
I was like, why am I waking up at two?

533
00:31:58.279 --> 00:32:01.839
And the way that this guesthouse is situated is that

534
00:32:02.680 --> 00:32:06.039
one side of the guest house is a converted gym space,

535
00:32:06.720 --> 00:32:10.200
and so it has like a glass garage door, and

536
00:32:10.279 --> 00:32:11.960
of course it's the side that I'm staying on, the

537
00:32:12.000 --> 00:32:14.000
glass garage door side. The other side is more of

538
00:32:14.039 --> 00:32:17.920
like a normal kind of house. But the side that

539
00:32:17.960 --> 00:32:20.519
I'm on has this giant glass garage door, and so

540
00:32:20.599 --> 00:32:23.319
I can hear everything. I can hear the crickets, I

541
00:32:23.359 --> 00:32:25.880
can hear the frogs, I can hear the chickens and

542
00:32:25.880 --> 00:32:30.279
it's like nice kind of ambient sound to fall asleep too.

543
00:32:31.400 --> 00:32:33.720
And so I wake up at two like why am

544
00:32:33.759 --> 00:32:38.079
I waking up? Like this is weird. Everything's quiet, and

545
00:32:38.119 --> 00:32:41.440
so I'm like awake in noticing that everything's quiet. I'm like,

546
00:32:41.519 --> 00:32:46.200
that's weird. And then I smell the skunk smell, and

547
00:32:46.279 --> 00:32:49.799
so I'm like sitting here, I'm laying in my bed.

548
00:32:50.039 --> 00:32:52.880
I'm like, okay, So I don't have the context of

549
00:32:52.920 --> 00:32:54.839
my dad's story going into this, so this is like

550
00:32:54.920 --> 00:32:58.680
my first encounter, my first kind of interaction with any

551
00:32:58.720 --> 00:33:02.839
of this. I'm laying in my bed like that's weird,

552
00:33:03.599 --> 00:33:08.640
and I start hearing what sounds like and I tried

553
00:33:08.680 --> 00:33:11.359
to rationalize it as I'm laying in bed. My brain's

554
00:33:11.359 --> 00:33:13.960
like trying to find like the shortcuts of like, oh

555
00:33:13.960 --> 00:33:17.319
it's this, Oh it's this. But what it sounded like

556
00:33:17.359 --> 00:33:20.160
at the time was somebody or something like a raccoon

557
00:33:20.240 --> 00:33:23.480
or something taking a rubber band, pulling it and letting

558
00:33:23.519 --> 00:33:28.559
it go. But it was like rhythmic, and so I

559
00:33:28.720 --> 00:33:30.960
like was going through my mind. I was like, maybe

560
00:33:30.960 --> 00:33:33.880
it's a raccoon like messing with the weather stripping. I

561
00:33:33.920 --> 00:33:36.640
was like, raccoon wouldn't do that rhythmically, and it doesn't

562
00:33:36.680 --> 00:33:39.799
sound like it's coming from the door, and so I'm

563
00:33:39.839 --> 00:33:43.799
listening to it still and it's like I realized, I'm like,

564
00:33:44.039 --> 00:33:51.839
that's wood. That's like something hitting up against wood, and like, okay,

565
00:33:51.880 --> 00:33:56.480
that's that's weird. And I see so again facing out

566
00:33:56.480 --> 00:33:59.319
the north. The guest house is facing the north, I'm

567
00:33:59.359 --> 00:34:01.759
seeing and I look and the chicken coop is right

568
00:34:01.759 --> 00:34:07.240
next to this main house, and so there's a motion

569
00:34:07.319 --> 00:34:09.559
light that's on the chicken coop and it goes off,

570
00:34:10.559 --> 00:34:13.800
and so like I'm hearing this sound over here. And

571
00:34:13.840 --> 00:34:16.239
then I'm also seeing as I'm looking out the motion

572
00:34:16.360 --> 00:34:17.960
light of the chicken coop and I'm able to see

573
00:34:17.960 --> 00:34:22.599
it through this glass garage door, and I'm looking to

574
00:34:22.599 --> 00:34:25.960
see if there's like a raccoon crawling down there, like oh,

575
00:34:26.039 --> 00:34:30.239
maybe that's somehow what I was hearing. And then this

576
00:34:30.320 --> 00:34:34.000
is again getting more into the woo. I see what

577
00:34:34.199 --> 00:34:40.320
looks like a four foot tall shadow walking around the

578
00:34:40.400 --> 00:34:43.639
chicken coop. But what's weird about it is that there's

579
00:34:43.719 --> 00:34:48.599
multiple walls and dividers between these chicken coops. Is that

580
00:34:48.639 --> 00:34:53.960
it's like phasing through all the Chicken coops, and so

581
00:34:55.159 --> 00:34:57.880
I'm very at this time, I'm like very familiar with

582
00:34:57.920 --> 00:35:00.719
like the shadow people and alien and so I'm like, oh,

583
00:35:00.840 --> 00:35:03.320
I know what this is, okay, And so I turn

584
00:35:03.360 --> 00:35:07.239
over in my covers and I'm just like, Lord, I

585
00:35:07.280 --> 00:35:08.960
close my eyes and I just pray. I'm like, Lord,

586
00:35:09.159 --> 00:35:12.159
whatever this is, we just bind it in the name

587
00:35:12.199 --> 00:35:15.280
of Jesus. I have my eyes closed, and I see,

588
00:35:16.000 --> 00:35:17.800
you know, it's like when you have your eyes closed

589
00:35:17.800 --> 00:35:19.559
and you can see there's a bright flash of light.

590
00:35:19.880 --> 00:35:23.119
I see that it bounces off the wall, but there's

591
00:35:23.159 --> 00:35:26.280
this bright flash of light. And I had my eyes

592
00:35:26.320 --> 00:35:30.599
closed and I opened him again everything comes back. And

593
00:35:30.679 --> 00:35:34.079
so that was like my encounter that I was like, hey, Dad,

594
00:35:34.119 --> 00:35:38.480
these are kind of the experiences I was having. Wes

595
00:35:38.519 --> 00:35:41.239
on Sasquatch Chronicles actually had an episode with a young

596
00:35:41.320 --> 00:35:44.679
lady that described wood knocking as the same thing as

597
00:35:44.719 --> 00:35:48.599
like she thought it was this like rubber band snapping sound,

598
00:35:49.000 --> 00:35:50.920
because that was what it sounded like, and so I

599
00:35:51.000 --> 00:35:54.079
went to weather stripping light. Of course that's what it was,

600
00:35:54.119 --> 00:35:57.519
but it wasn't like even in that moment I realized

601
00:35:57.559 --> 00:36:01.440
that it was something hitting up against wood. So I

602
00:36:01.480 --> 00:36:06.280
didn't see anything. I was like, I was petrified. I

603
00:36:06.360 --> 00:36:09.559
was like, whatever that is, I don't want to see it.

604
00:36:11.039 --> 00:36:12.440
I still have to wake up for work in the

605
00:36:12.519 --> 00:36:13.480
morning kind of thing.

606
00:36:14.280 --> 00:36:15.679
Right, Oh man, that is wild.

607
00:36:15.719 --> 00:36:20.119
So that happened how long after your dad's encounter on

608
00:36:20.159 --> 00:36:21.320
the same property again.

609
00:36:21.519 --> 00:36:22.400
So about a year?

610
00:36:23.039 --> 00:36:25.559
About a year okay, yep, So it's.

611
00:36:25.480 --> 00:36:30.280
Happened in July twenty twenty three. Mine was September twenty

612
00:36:30.320 --> 00:36:32.639
twenty four. And there may have been there may have

613
00:36:32.679 --> 00:36:35.440
been some other stuff that had happened that I just

614
00:36:35.559 --> 00:36:42.119
like wasn't paying attention to. That's very likely because now

615
00:36:42.159 --> 00:36:44.079
that I know to look for it, I've definitely noticed

616
00:36:44.079 --> 00:36:46.840
a lot more things and a lot more frequently stuff

617
00:36:46.840 --> 00:36:47.440
has happened.

618
00:36:48.920 --> 00:36:51.840
So did you have you guys ever had a conversation

619
00:36:51.880 --> 00:36:54.159
with the owner of the property and been like, hey,

620
00:36:54.760 --> 00:36:57.599
do you know what's going on here? Or have you

621
00:36:57.679 --> 00:36:59.119
had stuff going on here?

622
00:36:59.320 --> 00:37:06.920
Or so I have not in you know, kind of like, hey,

623
00:37:07.360 --> 00:37:09.440
this stuff is happening on the property, but have you

624
00:37:09.480 --> 00:37:10.920
guys had anything weird happen?

625
00:37:11.039 --> 00:37:11.159
Right?

626
00:37:11.519 --> 00:37:13.920
And they've just been kind of like no, no, not really.

627
00:37:15.039 --> 00:37:17.840
But the son of the owners of the property did.

628
00:37:18.800 --> 00:37:23.800
So this was this last year, May twenty third, twenty

629
00:37:23.800 --> 00:37:29.880
twenty five. So little boy he was probably five or

630
00:37:29.920 --> 00:37:34.679
six at this time, and so it was it was

631
00:37:34.719 --> 00:37:37.079
a birthday party or something. And so I had moved

632
00:37:37.079 --> 00:37:39.400
out at this time already. So after that encounter that

633
00:37:39.440 --> 00:37:41.559
I had in September, I was like, I'm getting out

634
00:37:41.599 --> 00:37:43.960
of here, Like, I don't like this. If there's bigfoot

635
00:37:44.000 --> 00:37:47.239
on this property, I don't want to live here. It's like,

636
00:37:47.280 --> 00:37:51.280
I'm not messing with it. But so I was over

637
00:37:51.320 --> 00:37:53.440
there for a birthday party and I had just left,

638
00:37:53.719 --> 00:37:57.000
and so I get a call five minutes later from

639
00:37:57.039 --> 00:37:58.880
one of my friends I was also at the party,

640
00:38:00.000 --> 00:38:02.400
and she's like, hey, are you still here. I was

641
00:38:02.480 --> 00:38:07.599
like no, and she's like frantic, and she says, well,

642
00:38:10.199 --> 00:38:13.440
the little boy he had seen something off in the

643
00:38:13.480 --> 00:38:18.840
woods and I and he described it as a tall

644
00:38:18.880 --> 00:38:21.599
person and he's like, so I did I do have

645
00:38:21.639 --> 00:38:24.000
an audio recording of it that I put in that

646
00:38:24.199 --> 00:38:26.920
in that folder because I talked to him about it

647
00:38:26.960 --> 00:38:28.880
the day of and I tried not to, you know,

648
00:38:29.000 --> 00:38:32.000
lead with any details or anything. But when she was

649
00:38:32.039 --> 00:38:34.920
telling me about it, I could hear him on the

650
00:38:34.960 --> 00:38:39.119
other side, just like something got him, like something like

651
00:38:39.280 --> 00:38:41.440
spooked him to the point where he like ran to

652
00:38:41.480 --> 00:38:45.000
the nearest adult and was like, hey, there's a person

653
00:38:45.079 --> 00:38:48.039
back there. There's a really tall person back there, like

654
00:38:48.239 --> 00:38:53.000
walking through the woods, and so he Yeah. In the

655
00:38:53.039 --> 00:38:57.920
audio recording, he he hads in details about some dog

656
00:38:58.079 --> 00:39:01.199
something or rather, and I lead with any of that.

657
00:39:01.559 --> 00:39:06.480
And so that was like another part that I was like,

658
00:39:06.679 --> 00:39:09.000
as I'm like recording it listening to him, I'm like

659
00:39:09.840 --> 00:39:13.800
what because he says something along the lines of well,

660
00:39:14.280 --> 00:39:16.519
it looked like a man, but then it dropped onto

661
00:39:16.559 --> 00:39:19.800
the ground and it looked like a dog. I was like,

662
00:39:19.960 --> 00:39:25.079
what the heck? So kids do say the darnedest things.

663
00:39:25.199 --> 00:39:27.639
So again I tried to just I asked him. I

664
00:39:27.679 --> 00:39:29.559
was like, hey, what did you see last night? And

665
00:39:29.599 --> 00:39:31.199
that was it. Like I just left it at that.

666
00:39:31.800 --> 00:39:33.840
I just left it rolling. And he told me, and

667
00:39:33.880 --> 00:39:36.239
I was like, very interesting, very cool.

668
00:39:37.639 --> 00:39:40.039
Wow, my goodness.

669
00:39:40.079 --> 00:39:45.719
So there's definitely some some stuff going on in that property. Yeah,

670
00:39:45.880 --> 00:39:52.000
you've got people of all ages having experiences. Yeah, that's

671
00:39:52.239 --> 00:39:58.639
that is some some wild wild stuff. Do you think

672
00:40:00.119 --> 00:40:06.159
what are your thoughts about what bigfoot is? Because it's

673
00:40:06.320 --> 00:40:11.280
that's such a conversation and it's so you know, and

674
00:40:11.440 --> 00:40:14.519
I'm I'm not sure myself yet, but I'm curious if

675
00:40:14.559 --> 00:40:17.719
you've had any thoughts about that over the last few years.

676
00:40:18.000 --> 00:40:20.280
Oh yeah, I mean I don't. I don't think you can,

677
00:40:20.719 --> 00:40:23.199
like not if you're a Christian in this space and

678
00:40:23.280 --> 00:40:26.079
not like speculate try and see what the Greek and

679
00:40:26.119 --> 00:40:30.199
Hebrew mean over here, to try and figure it out. So,

680
00:40:30.760 --> 00:40:32.480
I mean I had always just chalked it up to

681
00:40:32.800 --> 00:40:36.039
a nepheline. I mean really like because of my encounters

682
00:40:36.039 --> 00:40:38.559
with the alien stuff, I was really following a lot

683
00:40:38.559 --> 00:40:43.119
of La Marzouli and Gary Wayne at the time, and

684
00:40:43.239 --> 00:40:45.840
so like on the trail the nephileine, I was like, Oh,

685
00:40:45.880 --> 00:40:49.519
that's that's what bigfoot is. It's a nephyline. And then

686
00:40:49.599 --> 00:40:52.000
when I started hearing more about the subject, from my

687
00:40:52.079 --> 00:40:58.840
dad's story to multiple witnesses that you've interviewed and others

688
00:40:58.840 --> 00:41:01.480
have interviewed, like the super natural aspect that goes into it,

689
00:41:01.519 --> 00:41:04.760
like the wu aspect of it, I was like, I

690
00:41:04.840 --> 00:41:08.320
don't know, but I mean I think Doc did a

691
00:41:08.320 --> 00:41:11.400
great job at our We had a student conference here

692
00:41:11.440 --> 00:41:14.360
at the church not too long ago last week and

693
00:41:15.719 --> 00:41:18.880
there was one hundred and fifty students there. Eighty students said, Hey,

694
00:41:19.639 --> 00:41:21.719
we want to learn more about Bigfoot, and so we

695
00:41:21.760 --> 00:41:25.360
had a breakout session where we talked about Bigfoot, aliens, ghosts,

696
00:41:26.000 --> 00:41:28.119
and it was a lot of fun and it just

697
00:41:28.639 --> 00:41:30.519
like went to show that, like there is a lot

698
00:41:30.559 --> 00:41:33.360
of interest in this subject, especially with young people. It's like,

699
00:41:33.480 --> 00:41:34.960
we have a lot of these things going on with

700
00:41:34.960 --> 00:41:39.320
the supernatural, where does that fit into Christianity? And so

701
00:41:40.199 --> 00:41:44.679
I used Doc Brown's approach with it of the Sons

702
00:41:44.719 --> 00:41:48.039
of Esau because it's letting the text speak you know,

703
00:41:48.360 --> 00:41:51.639
Esau means Harry, asking these kids like how many of

704
00:41:51.679 --> 00:41:54.760
you know what Jacob means deceiver, deceiver? How do you

705
00:41:54.800 --> 00:41:59.800
know what Esau means crickets means Harry? And they're like, oh,

706
00:42:00.039 --> 00:42:02.920
oh my gosh. I don't know if I necessarily like

707
00:42:03.480 --> 00:42:06.119
fall into that, Like I think there's definitely some more

708
00:42:06.199 --> 00:42:12.039
nuance to it. I think it could be that could

709
00:42:12.039 --> 00:42:14.360
be a part of it of the Edomites and the

710
00:42:14.360 --> 00:42:20.840
Amalekites kind of turning into whether that's you know, getting

711
00:42:20.880 --> 00:42:26.440
to first Enoch Nepheline spirits type of stuff with Bigfoot.

712
00:42:26.440 --> 00:42:31.559
But there is like a corporeal physicality to it, And

713
00:42:31.639 --> 00:42:36.199
so I actually tend to lean more towards Revelation six'

714
00:42:36.280 --> 00:42:42.039
eight with the wild beasts of the, earth with the

715
00:42:42.039 --> 00:42:46.199
theory on in The greek which is like a demonic.

716
00:42:46.320 --> 00:42:49.320
Beast it's the same word that's used to describe the

717
00:42:49.719 --> 00:42:53.079
Great beast in The book Of. Revelation but that same

718
00:42:53.119 --> 00:42:55.679
word is used to describe both of like wild beasts

719
00:42:55.679 --> 00:43:01.239
and also The beast Of. Revelation AND i think even

720
00:43:01.320 --> 00:43:03.239
a lot of THE i, mean at least some of

721
00:43:03.280 --> 00:43:06.480
The Catholic church had this opinion as, well because there's

722
00:43:06.599 --> 00:43:10.480
the painting of The, judgment and you can see in

723
00:43:10.519 --> 00:43:12.920
The Sistine, chapel on this painting of The, judgment you

724
00:43:12.920 --> 00:43:16.800
can see some of these, creatures these theory on poking

725
00:43:16.800 --> 00:43:18.840
their head out of, caves and one of them just

726
00:43:18.880 --> 00:43:21.719
looks like a. BIGFOOT i think there's a code to

727
00:43:21.760 --> 00:43:28.800
it right now to WHERE i think in a lot

728
00:43:28.840 --> 00:43:33.000
of the same ways that As christians we Accept christ

729
00:43:33.000 --> 00:43:37.280
into our, lives like there's an invitation two. THINGS i

730
00:43:37.280 --> 00:43:39.159
think the same thing is true of the DEMONIC i

731
00:43:39.199 --> 00:43:43.599
think the wild, beasts the, sasquatch maybe even some of

732
00:43:43.639 --> 00:43:45.519
the dog, MAN i don't. Know some of those might

733
00:43:45.519 --> 00:43:49.119
be government made verdicts still out on that. One we're

734
00:43:49.119 --> 00:43:54.559
still leaning more answers on that. One BUT i THINK

735
00:43:55.199 --> 00:43:57.039
i think right, now the way that the game is

736
00:43:57.079 --> 00:44:01.239
being played with These bigfoot is that if you're not attacking,

737
00:44:01.280 --> 00:44:03.920
them they can't attack you because it's not that time.

738
00:44:04.000 --> 00:44:08.559
Yet and SO i think that's a big part of

739
00:44:08.559 --> 00:44:12.000
it of like you can't aggress them because once they

740
00:44:12.559 --> 00:44:15.440
once they break that, code like if they were to attack,

741
00:44:15.519 --> 00:44:18.039
you like physically hurt, YOU i think they can scare.

742
00:44:18.079 --> 00:44:20.039
YOU i think they can spook. YOU i think that's

743
00:44:20.039 --> 00:44:22.400
still within their. Parameters they're going right up to the

744
00:44:22.400 --> 00:44:25.039
line of what they can. Do that's why bluff charging

745
00:44:25.119 --> 00:44:28.280
is such a, thing right of like them getting right

746
00:44:28.360 --> 00:44:32.360
up to the line but not doing it because they're

747
00:44:32.480 --> 00:44:35.440
they're just. Waiting they're waiting for that moment to where

748
00:44:35.960 --> 00:44:39.639
revelation judgment comes upon the earth and they're able to do.

749
00:44:39.679 --> 00:44:43.880
That BECAUSE i think that is in terms of like

750
00:44:44.440 --> 00:44:48.679
where we're looking at an end times kind of us

751
00:44:48.719 --> 00:44:50.880
seeing more and more of this, STUFF i think that

752
00:44:50.880 --> 00:44:51.719
plays right into.

753
00:44:51.760 --> 00:44:56.440
It, YEAH i mean it's it's like you can't help

754
00:44:57.440 --> 00:45:00.280
but think about stuff like. That it's like as in

755
00:45:00.320 --> 00:45:04.559
the days as in the days Of, noah, right and

756
00:45:04.559 --> 00:45:07.800
it's just it's it's it's wild. Stuff and my Buddy

757
00:45:07.880 --> 00:45:11.559
josh From mystery Is, unknown he has a story a

758
00:45:11.599 --> 00:45:14.599
gentleman told, HIM i believe where there was a dog

759
00:45:14.719 --> 00:45:19.079
man's story and it's wild where pretty much it tells

760
00:45:19.159 --> 00:45:25.360
him like WHEN i, can it tells the individual the

761
00:45:25.400 --> 00:45:28.000
dog man does like WHEN i, can you are the

762
00:45:28.039 --> 00:45:32.079
first One i'm taking. Out and it's, like whoa dude

763
00:45:32.360 --> 00:45:33.559
that lines right up with?

764
00:45:33.639 --> 00:45:33.719
It?

765
00:45:33.800 --> 00:45:35.920
Man you. Know so.

766
00:45:37.519 --> 00:45:40.239
You, KNOW i talked to all types of witnesses on the,

767
00:45:40.320 --> 00:45:44.039
show and there are you, know everyone from people that

768
00:45:44.119 --> 00:45:48.639
think that we're dealing with undiscovered grade ape or maybe

769
00:45:48.760 --> 00:45:53.079
interdimensional type deal or nepheline or or what have.

770
00:45:53.199 --> 00:45:54.320
You and.

771
00:45:56.159 --> 00:46:00.480
The one thing that keeps coming up that really makes

772
00:46:00.519 --> 00:46:03.920
me wonder is when you have these accounts where the

773
00:46:04.000 --> 00:46:09.000
individual the only thing that worked was the individuals saying

774
00:46:09.000 --> 00:46:13.639
the name Of. Jesus and it's, like, well, man like

775
00:46:14.719 --> 00:46:17.440
if it's just if it's just undiscovered grade, aped then

776
00:46:17.519 --> 00:46:21.159
why is the name Of. Jesus we're pretty good, here you,

777
00:46:21.199 --> 00:46:24.639
Know like it's there's there's a GUY i talked to

778
00:46:24.880 --> 00:46:30.079
from The Mount hood, area and he he was having

779
00:46:30.199 --> 00:46:34.880
so many things happen and so much oppression that he

780
00:46:35.039 --> 00:46:39.760
just started going and like using all these These Old

781
00:46:39.800 --> 00:46:43.920
testament names And New testament names and like nothing was.

782
00:46:43.960 --> 00:46:46.639
Working for some. Reason he was like just trying to

783
00:46:46.679 --> 00:46:49.440
reach out to, something and he like stumbled upon the

784
00:46:49.519 --> 00:46:51.960
name Of jesus and it was like, bam and he was, like,

785
00:46:52.000 --> 00:46:54.039
oh there's something, there AND i was, like, yeah there's something.

786
00:46:54.079 --> 00:46:57.440
There it's like it's, crazy. Man so it's good.

787
00:46:57.480 --> 00:47:01.679
Stuff but, man what a cool thing that you were

788
00:47:01.679 --> 00:47:05.159
able to have that conversation with such a group of young,

789
00:47:05.199 --> 00:47:10.000
people because it's, like it seems that they are conversations

790
00:47:10.000 --> 00:47:14.760
that need to be, had and most churches today are

791
00:47:14.920 --> 00:47:20.639
not not willing to have them either because they don't

792
00:47:20.719 --> 00:47:25.360
see that they. Are it's gonna. Have it's something big

793
00:47:25.480 --> 00:47:27.920
is going to have to happen for all the churches

794
00:47:27.920 --> 00:47:29.559
out there to be, like, oh we need to have

795
00:47:29.639 --> 00:47:32.519
these conversations because this is. Legitimate like, yeah it's. Legitimate

796
00:47:32.559 --> 00:47:35.760
it's happening in The bible, too like all the supernatural.

797
00:47:35.920 --> 00:47:42.280
Stuff why it didn't just stop in The, bible? Right but, yeah, wild, wild, wild,

798
00:47:42.360 --> 00:47:52.239
Stuff so man, like how does how does having usually

799
00:47:52.239 --> 00:47:56.079
when a person will have experiences like, this or have you,

800
00:47:56.079 --> 00:47:58.599
know be related to someone that has had experiences like,

801
00:47:58.639 --> 00:48:01.039
this how does this affect your day to? Day because

802
00:48:01.079 --> 00:48:05.320
What i've seen is that it will sometimes the person

803
00:48:05.400 --> 00:48:08.679
will just like be freaked out and run, away or

804
00:48:08.719 --> 00:48:11.760
it'll just set them down a. Path and so how

805
00:48:11.800 --> 00:48:17.000
has this affected? You are you someone that's that's LIKE

806
00:48:17.079 --> 00:48:19.400
i got to figure this? Out or how how is

807
00:48:19.440 --> 00:48:20.360
it affecting you in your?

808
00:48:20.400 --> 00:48:20.679
Life?

809
00:48:21.440 --> 00:48:25.760
YEAH i mean so like even even at, Work i'm

810
00:48:25.800 --> 00:48:31.119
the bigfoot, guy AND i totally accept. THAT i think

811
00:48:31.239 --> 00:48:34.400
what's happening a lot with the church in general is

812
00:48:34.440 --> 00:48:39.840
for too long we've been addressing the symptoms of a spiritual,

813
00:48:39.880 --> 00:48:43.159
problem and so we're focusing on all these things that

814
00:48:43.159 --> 00:48:45.280
are kind of going on in the. CULTURE i think

815
00:48:45.320 --> 00:48:48.679
those are good things to, address but we've denied the

816
00:48:48.719 --> 00:48:53.639
power thereof we've denied the spiritual AND i think that's

817
00:48:53.679 --> 00:48:58.480
a lot of kind of what's going on is it's

818
00:48:58.559 --> 00:49:01.800
people they just see the world that they live in

819
00:49:01.920 --> 00:49:05.159
as the world that there. IS i, Mean i've had

820
00:49:05.280 --> 00:49:10.519
conversations with missionaries that have you, know had a lion

821
00:49:10.599 --> 00:49:12.840
charging at them and they say the name Of jesus

822
00:49:12.920 --> 00:49:15.880
and that lion changes back into a. MAN i can't

823
00:49:15.880 --> 00:49:19.400
explain that over here in The, west but we we

824
00:49:19.519 --> 00:49:23.400
have such a to, steal to steal a word from

825
00:49:23.760 --> 00:49:27.280
From La, marzouli we have some a truncated view of

826
00:49:27.320 --> 00:49:31.360
what the spiritual world, is of What christianity is supposed to.

827
00:49:31.400 --> 00:49:34.039
Be you see all of the Early. Church what is

828
00:49:34.039 --> 00:49:36.800
the Early church? Doing they're going to ward the gates of,

829
00:49:36.840 --> 00:49:40.199
hell like they're fighting the things that would keep them

830
00:49:40.239 --> 00:49:44.719
up at. Night the disciples had a very real knowledge

831
00:49:44.719 --> 00:49:47.320
of the, supernatural to where when they See jesus walking on,

832
00:49:47.440 --> 00:49:52.239
water they're, like, oh that's a, ghost that's an unclean

833
00:49:52.320 --> 00:49:55.239
spirit walking on the. Water and we kind of just

834
00:49:55.239 --> 00:49:57.599
glance over, that, like, oh, yeah they have tall tales

835
00:49:57.639 --> 00:50:01.159
like we, Did, like, no that was. Real they were

836
00:50:01.199 --> 00:50:04.119
casting these same things out of people and putting them into.

837
00:50:04.199 --> 00:50:09.159
Swine and SO i, think what's what has happened With

838
00:50:09.519 --> 00:50:12.039
And i'm trying To i'm trying to capture capture that,

839
00:50:12.039 --> 00:50:15.159
thought trying to reel it. In but what has happened

840
00:50:15.360 --> 00:50:18.880
is that we have gotten so far removed AND i

841
00:50:18.920 --> 00:50:23.119
think IT'S i think it's, intentional from the, spiritual from the,

842
00:50:23.159 --> 00:50:27.519
supernatural from the kind of spooky and, weird to the

843
00:50:27.559 --> 00:50:30.360
point where you, know talking about having a moment that

844
00:50:30.400 --> 00:50:33.559
would just wake up the. CHURCH i thought. DISCLOSURE i

845
00:50:33.559 --> 00:50:36.320
thought alien disclosure would be that for the longest. TIME

846
00:50:36.800 --> 00:50:41.519
i know me, too and, like here we, are like

847
00:50:41.840 --> 00:50:45.079
all this information is coming, out everything short of them

848
00:50:45.159 --> 00:50:50.199
just saying, yeah aliens, Exist like we're getting bi weekly

849
00:50:50.639 --> 00:50:55.880
releases of information from The White house in THE, us

850
00:50:55.960 --> 00:51:00.039
and it's like we. Can't at what point do we

851
00:51:00.199 --> 00:51:02.599
do we actually say like, okay like there is there

852
00:51:02.639 --> 00:51:05.360
is more going on than meets the. Eye AND i

853
00:51:05.400 --> 00:51:08.639
think the other problem with it, too is that you

854
00:51:08.719 --> 00:51:11.840
have a lot of these guys in these spaces that

855
00:51:11.880 --> 00:51:17.079
aren't familiar with the subject of the, supernatural whether that's, bigfoot,

856
00:51:17.119 --> 00:51:19.599
aliens all. THAT i keep on coming back to aliens

857
00:51:19.599 --> 00:51:22.920
because this is Where i've seen it the, most especially

858
00:51:22.960 --> 00:51:25.639
with the disclosure, stuff is that they'll kind of just

859
00:51:25.679 --> 00:51:28.199
write it off of, well they're just demons and kind

860
00:51:28.199 --> 00:51:30.000
of leave it at. That it's, Like, okay have you

861
00:51:30.000 --> 00:51:32.760
ever gone to battle with a? Demon do you know

862
00:51:32.760 --> 00:51:36.199
what spiritual warfare looks like when you're actually up against

863
00:51:36.239 --> 00:51:38.639
this thing to where there is some physicality to, it

864
00:51:38.719 --> 00:51:41.119
like there are nuts and bolts to. It there are

865
00:51:41.199 --> 00:51:43.360
nuts and bolts To, bigfoot there are nuts and bolts

866
00:51:43.400 --> 00:51:45.719
to dog. Man what are you going to do in those?

867
00:51:45.760 --> 00:51:48.480
Situations to where as it was in the days Of,

868
00:51:48.519 --> 00:51:51.920
noah like you said, earlier like there is going to

869
00:51:51.960 --> 00:51:55.400
be a time where these things start like coming after,

870
00:51:55.480 --> 00:51:58.119
People like it wasn't that long ago that we had

871
00:51:58.159 --> 00:52:06.039
stories about dragons attacking people about like the past negating

872
00:52:06.079 --> 00:52:08.760
the past five hundred, years like this has been human

873
00:52:08.880 --> 00:52:13.760
history of us fighting mythological, creatures and so there was

874
00:52:13.800 --> 00:52:16.800
a good portion of The, crusades and The crusades you,

875
00:52:16.840 --> 00:52:19.840
know mostly focuses On jerusalem and all, that but there

876
00:52:19.880 --> 00:52:23.519
was also some like mythological beast fighting that was going

877
00:52:23.519 --> 00:52:25.400
on during The crusades as well that you don't hear

878
00:52:25.440 --> 00:52:25.679
a lot.

879
00:52:25.719 --> 00:52:27.360
About but it.

880
00:52:27.320 --> 00:52:31.760
Was because of the time that has gone between now

881
00:52:31.800 --> 00:52:35.719
and then and those things possibly going into. HIDING i don't,

882
00:52:35.760 --> 00:52:38.239
KNOW i don't know why there's a gap between like

883
00:52:39.840 --> 00:52:41.960
this point in time and then this point in, Time

884
00:52:42.199 --> 00:52:45.320
like these creatures do exist and then all of a

885
00:52:45.360 --> 00:52:48.280
sudden they're just not around. Anymore and we. Don't it's a.

886
00:52:48.320 --> 00:52:53.280
MYTH i don't. KNOW i think there is there's something

887
00:52:53.880 --> 00:52:59.920
possibly nefarious going on with that to catch people bicup

888
00:53:00.360 --> 00:53:04.559
whenever these things do, happen because that's, uh that's that's

889
00:53:04.559 --> 00:53:07.960
what's going to be really interesting with you, know with

890
00:53:08.000 --> 00:53:10.320
my with my theory of like if we do have

891
00:53:10.360 --> 00:53:13.599
bigfoots charging out of the woods and start attacking, people it's, like.

892
00:53:15.280 --> 00:53:21.280
Oh my, goodness can you, Imagine oh my, goodness like could, happen.

893
00:53:21.400 --> 00:53:23.719
Dude but it's, LIKE i think it's it's time for

894
00:53:23.920 --> 00:53:27.480
like it is you're because you're kind of talking about

895
00:53:27.519 --> 00:53:30.280
like you, know you do hear all these missionary stories

896
00:53:30.280 --> 00:53:33.559
about coming From africa and Like Papua New guinea and

897
00:53:33.599 --> 00:53:34.079
like just.

898
00:53:34.199 --> 00:53:35.559
Really, weird really weird.

899
00:53:35.559 --> 00:53:37.880
Stuff stuff was, Like oh my, goodness can you imagine

900
00:53:37.880 --> 00:53:41.320
if that would ever happen In america Or? Canada and it's, like,

901
00:53:41.400 --> 00:53:45.320
man it's LIKE i think it's it's it's either we're

902
00:53:45.440 --> 00:53:49.000
there or we're very close to like it's, Time like

903
00:53:49.039 --> 00:53:53.119
it's our time at, bat like for for the, weirdness the,

904
00:53:53.119 --> 00:53:57.079
weird spiritual stuffy and we have to be ready to

905
00:53:57.079 --> 00:53:59.559
to handle. That and you, KNOW i was, like there's

906
00:53:59.599 --> 00:54:02.199
a lot of you, know one individual that comes to,

907
00:54:02.239 --> 00:54:06.920
mind like my my Buddy Harley owens From, tennessee Strong christian,

908
00:54:06.920 --> 00:54:09.480
guy and he's always he hangs out with people Like

909
00:54:09.519 --> 00:54:14.840
Doc brown From Prometheus lens and those, guys and whenever we,

910
00:54:14.880 --> 00:54:17.840
talk we talk a, lot and he's, like he's, like

911
00:54:17.880 --> 00:54:22.000
you gotta stay prayed up every, time every. Time and like, after,

912
00:54:22.159 --> 00:54:25.360
man AFTER i spent time In. TENNESSEE i don't know

913
00:54:25.440 --> 00:54:27.719
if you've heard any of this stuff yet or if

914
00:54:27.760 --> 00:54:30.679
it's come out, yet but, like, MAN i was having

915
00:54:30.719 --> 00:54:37.039
weird stuff happened In tennessee big. Time we stayed you,

916
00:54:37.079 --> 00:54:40.280
know The Cumberland, plantau and we were staying in this

917
00:54:40.480 --> 00:54:45.000
camp having like a week camp out expedition type, deal

918
00:54:45.960 --> 00:54:49.559
A tennessee cryptic. Campout they put me in the cabin

919
00:54:49.599 --> 00:54:52.840
where all the weird stuff, happens where like people get chased.

920
00:54:52.880 --> 00:54:55.519
OUT i was kind of, like, oh, yeah that'll be,

921
00:54:55.559 --> 00:54:56.440
cool like let's have.

922
00:54:56.480 --> 00:54:59.320
Something but, dude like the last, DAY i was taking

923
00:54:59.360 --> 00:55:02.360
a nap in my cabin and it was right BEFORE

924
00:55:03.000 --> 00:55:07.960
i had gotten to, sleep AND i hear a voice

925
00:55:07.960 --> 00:55:12.639
in my head and it, said, Gotcha AND i immediately

926
00:55:12.639 --> 00:55:14.760
got up AND i was, Like i'm out of. Here

927
00:55:14.920 --> 00:55:17.440
LIKE i went up to the lodge where people were

928
00:55:17.480 --> 00:55:20.719
and AND i was like it was. Weird and then

929
00:55:20.840 --> 00:55:25.239
the week after that was when the whole you, know

930
00:55:26.000 --> 00:55:28.559
lymph no got really swollen and THEN i had to have.

931
00:55:28.599 --> 00:55:29.840
Surgery so take that as a.

932
00:55:29.920 --> 00:55:30.280
Go.

933
00:55:30.880 --> 00:55:35.199
Yeah, Yeah so there's some weird stuff out, there, man

934
00:55:35.239 --> 00:55:37.840
and you just have to be ready for. Anything AND

935
00:55:37.960 --> 00:55:40.679
i mean it could all be, coincidence but like you never, know,

936
00:55:40.880 --> 00:55:43.880
right and like so it's like you have to.

937
00:55:43.840 --> 00:55:45.719
Be as not A hebrew word for.

938
00:55:45.800 --> 00:55:49.320
Coincidence, no that's that's a great, Point. Elliott, yeah thank.

939
00:55:49.360 --> 00:55:52.880
You that is a really really good. Point so you,

940
00:55:52.920 --> 00:55:55.960
know you got to be in your in Your, bible

941
00:55:56.119 --> 00:55:59.000
you gotta be praying because because the weird stuff is.

942
00:55:59.039 --> 00:56:02.679
Happening But, ellie this has been such a such a fantastic.

943
00:56:02.840 --> 00:56:04.760
CONVERSATION i want to make sure that you were able

944
00:56:04.800 --> 00:56:08.679
to share everything that you had wanted to share on

945
00:56:09.039 --> 00:56:09.400
the show.

946
00:56:09.400 --> 00:56:13.400
Today oh, YEAH i, mean so there was there was

947
00:56:13.480 --> 00:56:17.639
one more story and this one has multiple. Witnesses this, One,

948
00:56:17.840 --> 00:56:22.559
okay we got some eyeshine out of. It so this

949
00:56:22.800 --> 00:56:26.679
Was thanksgiving this last. Year so this was like fairly.

950
00:56:26.719 --> 00:56:31.840
Recent we were all back out by the guest house

951
00:56:31.960 --> 00:56:34.519
on these autoandack. Chairs there's a fire pit out there

952
00:56:34.880 --> 00:56:38.559
and we're all sitting at this just having. Conversation it

953
00:56:38.599 --> 00:56:41.760
was like eleven. Pm it was getting you, know it

954
00:56:41.840 --> 00:56:44.599
was actually super cold here In, texas which is, rare

955
00:56:45.000 --> 00:56:46.840
rare at any point in time for a ticket. Cold

956
00:56:46.880 --> 00:56:50.880
but it was pretty. Cold it was cold and, windy and.

957
00:56:52.679 --> 00:56:59.079
We we had a neighbor that came down the driveway

958
00:56:59.079 --> 00:57:01.119
and so the way that this problem where property is,

959
00:57:01.119 --> 00:57:04.199
situated And i'll i'll kind of send over you the

960
00:57:04.239 --> 00:57:06.880
address to kind of see how everything's situated.

961
00:57:07.039 --> 00:57:12.480
Afterwards but there's this wrap around driveway or private drive

962
00:57:12.519 --> 00:57:17.000
that goes through passing by the guest. House and so

963
00:57:17.039 --> 00:57:19.559
there's this lady in this car and she pulls, up

964
00:57:20.920 --> 00:57:24.920
and another lady pulls up in a white tahoe and

965
00:57:26.000 --> 00:57:31.639
she asks this, lady did you see? Anything no, One

966
00:57:32.199 --> 00:57:37.360
and so my dad like he's so, Funny he's, like, yo,

967
00:57:38.159 --> 00:57:42.519
yoh here we go. Again and so he has he's,

968
00:57:42.559 --> 00:57:45.119
like you guys heard that, exchange. Right and So i'm out,

969
00:57:45.119 --> 00:57:48.000
There my brother's out, there both my sisters are out,

970
00:57:48.039 --> 00:57:51.079
there their husbands are out, there and so we have

971
00:57:51.159 --> 00:57:53.679
this huge group that's out there and we all hear this,

972
00:57:54.199 --> 00:58:00.760
exchange and so my dad even had them like repeat

973
00:58:00.760 --> 00:58:03.039
it back to, him like, hey like what did they?

974
00:58:03.039 --> 00:58:05.639
Say and he was, like, okay just making Sure i'm

975
00:58:05.639 --> 00:58:07.639
not going, crazy making Sure i'm not the crazy one.

976
00:58:07.679 --> 00:58:12.880
Here and so like five minutes goes, by and we

977
00:58:12.960 --> 00:58:17.880
hear screaming gibberish coming from a mile, north like, loud

978
00:58:18.159 --> 00:58:23.960
like like the normal like bigfoot, chatter but like. Screaming

979
00:58:27.119 --> 00:58:30.360
and so we hear one over, here we hear another

980
00:58:30.400 --> 00:58:33.159
one in another, direction and we hear this one in

981
00:58:33.239 --> 00:58:37.760
the north start, moving and so we're all out here experiencing,

982
00:58:37.800 --> 00:58:40.760
this like what is going? On and so we go

983
00:58:40.840 --> 00:58:46.400
over to this, bushline the tree line that's right on

984
00:58:46.480 --> 00:58:49.119
the property, line and we're just scanning. It my dad

985
00:58:49.159 --> 00:58:52.920
has one of those TikTok super bright flashlights and he's

986
00:58:52.960 --> 00:58:56.000
just oh, yeah he's just scanning the, line and we

987
00:58:56.039 --> 00:58:58.480
can see the deer eye, shine the yellow deer eye,

988
00:58:58.480 --> 00:59:03.079
shine all kind of looking up at. Us but then

989
00:59:03.119 --> 00:59:07.880
there's another set of eyes that's that's slightly above, them

990
00:59:09.400 --> 00:59:11.920
and unlike the, deer you, know deer in headlights are

991
00:59:11.960 --> 00:59:15.119
kind of like they. Stay this other set of eyes

992
00:59:15.239 --> 00:59:18.320
was like moving around and like trying to get behind the.

993
00:59:18.320 --> 00:59:20.480
Brush as my dad was like shining the light at.

994
00:59:20.519 --> 00:59:27.800
It these, were, uh it'd be, like, dude it wasn't

995
00:59:27.880 --> 00:59:30.440
it wasn't far. Away it was maybe like six to

996
00:59:30.559 --> 00:59:32.880
ten feet in front of, us like it was, close

997
00:59:34.360 --> 00:59:37.800
but it was also green. Eyeshine AND i believe there

998
00:59:37.800 --> 00:59:41.599
was somebody on your show that actually, said, uh, yeah

999
00:59:41.599 --> 00:59:43.920
the only thing that has green eye shine is. Apes

1000
00:59:45.880 --> 00:59:48.719
and so my dad later heard that episode and he was,

1001
00:59:48.760 --> 00:59:51.920
like oh my, gosh like it would make sense why

1002
00:59:51.960 --> 00:59:56.000
it was dodging us and all of, that but they

1003
00:59:56.039 --> 00:59:59.519
were it was just, moving moving and getting away from.

1004
00:59:59.559 --> 01:00:03.840
It and so so we end up everybody gets spooked

1005
01:00:03.840 --> 01:00:05.960
out other than me and my dad and my. Brother they're, Like,

1006
01:00:06.000 --> 01:00:09.159
okay it's getting too. Cold they, said we're going, inside

1007
01:00:09.719 --> 01:00:12.559
and so we're out there for maybe another thirty minutes

1008
01:00:12.559 --> 01:00:14.480
and we hear the screaming, again but this time it's

1009
01:00:14.519 --> 01:00:20.760
like a woman's scream coming from the, southwest and it's

1010
01:00:20.840 --> 01:00:23.599
like even inside of the guest house they could hear

1011
01:00:23.639 --> 01:00:28.440
it like this, again jargon woman's. Scream it's eleven o'clock

1012
01:00:28.519 --> 01:00:31.719
at night later than. That at this, point it's, cold

1013
01:00:31.760 --> 01:00:39.440
it's windy's nobody's out making those kinds of sounds because

1014
01:00:39.480 --> 01:00:42.440
it's it's mostly an older kind of area as, well

1015
01:00:42.440 --> 01:00:45.639
a lot of people there are kind of older on bigger.

1016
01:00:45.679 --> 01:00:48.599
Property and so my dad AND i we stick. Around

1017
01:00:48.679 --> 01:00:52.519
my brother heads back, home and my dad AND i

1018
01:00:53.639 --> 01:00:58.199
we're sitting out and we're facing The we're facing towards

1019
01:00:58.239 --> 01:01:01.199
the guest, house so we're looking towards the. South we

1020
01:01:01.280 --> 01:01:05.599
see from behind us a bright blue flash light up

1021
01:01:05.639 --> 01:01:08.639
the whole yard and we look at each. Other so

1022
01:01:08.719 --> 01:01:10.920
he's standing to my, Left we look at each, other

1023
01:01:11.079 --> 01:01:14.000
both of our faces are in. Blue we turn around

1024
01:01:14.199 --> 01:01:18.400
and whatever it is is. Gone so there is there

1025
01:01:18.480 --> 01:01:21.119
is a ton of stuff that happens on this, property

1026
01:01:21.199 --> 01:01:27.559
like we've seen UFOs flying over. IT i, mean it's

1027
01:01:27.599 --> 01:01:31.280
just been it's been, crazy even in broad, daylight seeing

1028
01:01:31.679 --> 01:01:36.079
in that bush area as. Well this WAS i think

1029
01:01:36.119 --> 01:01:38.119
a couple of days later because everybody was here for

1030
01:01:38.280 --> 01:01:42.800
my sister's, wedding and SO i had seen what looked

1031
01:01:42.800 --> 01:01:46.840
like just around it, square like a rounded, cube moving

1032
01:01:46.840 --> 01:01:49.280
through the tree, line AND i see these deers start

1033
01:01:49.320 --> 01:01:55.400
walking out And i'm realizing that where this cube was

1034
01:01:55.440 --> 01:01:57.559
THAT i saw moving through the, trees it just looked,

1035
01:01:57.559 --> 01:02:00.880
shadowy like it almost looked opaque or. Away BUT i

1036
01:02:00.880 --> 01:02:05.719
saw it moving through the, trees and it disappeared to,

1037
01:02:05.760 --> 01:02:08.920
where like getting to the other side of the, tree

1038
01:02:08.920 --> 01:02:12.159
where you'd see it poke, through it. DIDN'T i saw

1039
01:02:12.199 --> 01:02:15.800
these deer walking. BY i realized, that like where the

1040
01:02:15.840 --> 01:02:18.440
top of this cube, was to where these deer, were

1041
01:02:19.400 --> 01:02:21.760
this cube was like ten feet off the, ground like

1042
01:02:21.800 --> 01:02:27.880
the top of this. Cube and so it's been, very very,

1043
01:02:27.920 --> 01:02:31.360
interesting to say the, least on that. Property my fiance

1044
01:02:31.960 --> 01:02:34.079
she'll come down to visit, me but she won't she

1045
01:02:34.119 --> 01:02:38.320
won't stay there because her and other guests have heard

1046
01:02:38.760 --> 01:02:43.199
tapping on the, window they've heard footsteps. OUTSIDE i THINK

1047
01:02:43.239 --> 01:02:47.320
i even sent you a picture of grease marks on

1048
01:02:47.440 --> 01:02:51.480
the window from some of the tapping as. Well but

1049
01:02:51.599 --> 01:02:54.000
if you look at the size of, it it, is it's.

1050
01:02:54.119 --> 01:02:58.039
Huge is that SOMETHING i COULD i could put in The?

1051
01:02:59.679 --> 01:03:04.000
Oh, absolutely yes you, Version, yeah, yes, awesome very, good thank.

1052
01:03:04.039 --> 01:03:05.159
You. Wow.

1053
01:03:05.320 --> 01:03:10.079
Dude that man whoever's got that, property they've they've got

1054
01:03:10.079 --> 01:03:14.400
some stuff going. ON i hope that they are prepared

1055
01:03:14.440 --> 01:03:14.960
to deal with.

1056
01:03:15.000 --> 01:03:18.880
That, well he's he's prayed up AND i think the

1057
01:03:18.880 --> 01:03:22.079
the interesting part is that all the stuff has been

1058
01:03:22.440 --> 01:03:26.599
after my dad had prayed over the property. Line it

1059
01:03:26.639 --> 01:03:30.440
hasn't come onto the property. Line SO i guess other

1060
01:03:30.519 --> 01:03:32.519
than the knacky on the, glass but as far as

1061
01:03:32.559 --> 01:03:36.440
like us seeing, stuff, uh it might be a game

1062
01:03:36.480 --> 01:03:38.800
of like red light green light to where they're not.

1063
01:03:40.840 --> 01:03:43.239
Entrenching on the, show so it'll just come up to

1064
01:03:43.320 --> 01:03:47.039
the property line and stop. There, Dude so your dad

1065
01:03:47.159 --> 01:03:51.800
was praying the property. Line oh, Yeah, okay that's. Awesome

1066
01:03:51.840 --> 01:03:55.519
I've i've heard that. BEFORE i THINK i personally think

1067
01:03:55.559 --> 01:03:56.280
there's something to.

1068
01:03:56.400 --> 01:04:02.199
That yeah is, YEAH i mean.

1069
01:04:03.920 --> 01:04:06.159
That that's a really INTERESTING i need to look more into,

1070
01:04:06.239 --> 01:04:10.280
that but it makes total, sense it really really does

1071
01:04:10.960 --> 01:04:11.559
that you would do.

1072
01:04:11.639 --> 01:04:15.440
That, yeah very very, cool very.

1073
01:04:15.440 --> 01:04:17.280
Cool so this has Been this has been a super

1074
01:04:17.400 --> 01:04:23.480
uplifting conversation for me and just, incredible incredible encounters that

1075
01:04:23.519 --> 01:04:26.199
you've shared. Too AND I, elliott thank you so much

1076
01:04:26.239 --> 01:04:31.280
for coming on the. SHOW i think if, YOU i,

1077
01:04:31.280 --> 01:04:33.239
mean we both know we listen to stuff like this

1078
01:04:33.559 --> 01:04:38.840
and you're probably gonna have other experiences along the. Way you,

1079
01:04:38.880 --> 01:04:41.960
know if you put yourself on the front lines of

1080
01:04:41.960 --> 01:04:45.800
of of the spiritual warfare and and things related to.

1081
01:04:45.840 --> 01:04:49.800
That you're you're gonna have some interesting, experiences so you,

1082
01:04:49.840 --> 01:04:54.159
know definitely definitely keep in touch if anything else. Happens

1083
01:04:54.239 --> 01:04:59.719
i'm glad that you are are talking to two people

1084
01:04:59.800 --> 01:05:02.760
in the church about things that need to be, addressed

1085
01:05:02.920 --> 01:05:04.119
and thank you for doing.

1086
01:05:04.119 --> 01:05:06.840
That, man of, course thank you for everything that you're.

1087
01:05:06.880 --> 01:05:10.559
DOING i mean just the way that you present you

1088
01:05:10.679 --> 01:05:14.559
let people share what they've gone through their testimonies if you,

1089
01:05:14.599 --> 01:05:18.840
will and then just subtly, okay There's jesus over. HERE

1090
01:05:19.039 --> 01:05:22.079
i give them a. Try BUT i really do appreciate

1091
01:05:22.119 --> 01:05:23.880
everything that you, do AND i appreciate you for having

1092
01:05:23.920 --> 01:05:28.159
me on. Again sorry about scheduling conflicts here and, there

1093
01:05:28.199 --> 01:05:31.679
BUT i do appreciate very much being able to talk to, You.

1094
01:05:31.760 --> 01:05:37.960
Jeremiah you are In AS i said, earlier it happened

1095
01:05:38.039 --> 01:05:40.320
at the right right. Time so thank you so. Much

1096
01:05:40.360 --> 01:05:44.039
we'll definitely keep in. Touchment before we wrap this, EPISODE

1097
01:05:44.119 --> 01:05:46.719
i want to say something directly to a very specific

1098
01:05:46.760 --> 01:05:50.639
group of. Listeners if you're in the, military any branch or,

1099
01:05:50.679 --> 01:05:53.400
forces and if you've seen something that no one can,

1100
01:05:53.480 --> 01:05:57.119
explain or if you're A national park ranger or forestry

1101
01:05:57.199 --> 01:06:00.239
worker who's been told to stay. Quiet if you're a

1102
01:06:00.320 --> 01:06:04.039
pilot who's seen something strange down on the, ground or

1103
01:06:04.079 --> 01:06:07.119
if you're with THE fbi a federal, agency or working

1104
01:06:07.159 --> 01:06:10.639
intelligence and you stumbled upon something you're not allowed to talk.

1105
01:06:10.679 --> 01:06:13.800
About and if you're a, firefighter, paramedic or search and

1106
01:06:13.880 --> 01:06:17.840
rescue responder who's heard screams or found tracks that didn't make.

1107
01:06:17.920 --> 01:06:22.119
Sense if you're in the logging industry on a remote oil,

1108
01:06:22.199 --> 01:06:25.320
field or a trucker with government contracts and you've had

1109
01:06:25.400 --> 01:06:29.039
something happen that you've never told a. Soul and if

1110
01:06:29.039 --> 01:06:32.719
you're a, biologist a wildlife, specialist or a field researcher

1111
01:06:32.880 --> 01:06:36.000
under contract who has found evidence you're not allowed to.

1112
01:06:36.039 --> 01:06:38.519
Report if you're a, pastor.

1113
01:06:38.039 --> 01:06:41.320
A, missionary or someone on a spiritual retreat and you

1114
01:06:41.400 --> 01:06:44.280
saw something that shook your, faith or if you work

1115
01:06:44.320 --> 01:06:48.519
in the, SHADOWS, CIA, nsa or anything with clearance and

1116
01:06:48.559 --> 01:06:52.360
you've seen what the public, hasn't THEN i want to

1117
01:06:52.400 --> 01:06:57.400
talk to, You even if it's. Anonymous you can reach

1118
01:06:57.480 --> 01:07:01.239
me At Bigfoot society at gmail dot. Com the world

1119
01:07:01.320 --> 01:07:03.960
needs to hear what you've been forced to carry alone

1120
01:07:05.280 --> 01:07:10.000
and you're not. Alone you've got the, Story we've got

1121
01:07:10.000 --> 01:07:10.599
the mic.

1122
01:07:11.880 --> 01:07:12.320
See you in the.

1123
01:07:12.360 --> 01:07:14.880
Woods thank you for listening to this episode Of The

1124
01:07:14.920 --> 01:07:18.239
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1125
01:07:18.280 --> 01:07:21.320
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1126
01:07:21.400 --> 01:07:23.800
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1127
01:07:23.800 --> 01:07:26.880
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1128
01:07:27.000 --> 01:07:29.519
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01:07:31.840 --> 01:07:35.679
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1135
01:07:47.679 --> 01:07:50.679
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1136
01:07:50.719 --> 01:07:53.920
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01:07:53.920 --> 01:07:57.239
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01:07:57.239 --> 01:07:59.679
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1139
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1140
01:08:03.559 --> 01:08:07.079
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1144
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1145
01:08:20.039 --> 01:08:22.920
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1146
01:08:23.000 --> 01:08:24.520
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1147
01:08:24.520 --> 01:08:24.840
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