May 31, 2026

13-FOOT “PROTECTOR OF THE FOREST” SASQUATCH TERRORIZES WITNESS NEAR ROCKY FORK STATE PARK

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Season 1

A family moves deep into the mountains near Rocky Fork State Park in East Tennessee and starts experiencing things they can’t explain.


A massive reddish-blond Sasquatch walks across a ridge in broad daylight and mentally identifies itself as “the protector of the forest.” Heavy footsteps shake the cabin at night. Something runs across the roof. Giant figures appear beside the road at 4 AM illuminated by headlights after Hurricane Helene devastates the region.


Jodi and Michael share years of escalating encounters near the Cherokee National Forest including:





  • Daylight Sasquatch sightings
  • Possible juvenile activity
  • Metallic booming sounds in the mountains
  • Tracks and knuckle impressions
  • Tree pushes and whoops
  • Mind speak experiences
  • A terrifying scream outside a Missouri forest home
  • Strange activity tied to remote Appalachian waterways

This is one of the most intense multi-encounter episodes ever featured on Bigfoot Society.


Resources:

Tennessee Cryptid Campout -
https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61573643865014

Michael’s episode is 1115 of Bigfoot Society


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I get this mind speak thing. He says, I'm the

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protector of the forest, and I'm just really I'm nervous

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right now. This happening about the same time that I

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was trying to tell Mike I saw something else. Ten

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to thirteen foot twelve had to weigh at least eight

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hundred pounds.

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You're listening to Big for Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron.

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In this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to

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bring you first hand encounters from people who say they've

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seen something impossible. From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers

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to quiet farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere,

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and each one leaves us with more questions than answers.

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These are the voices of the people who've lived it.

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To settle in, because today you'll hear another account that

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just might change the way you see the woods forever.

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So stay with us, all right, Big for Society. I've

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got the privilege of talking to Jody and Michael today.

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It's going to be primarily but you may hear Michael

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off to this side every once in a while, which

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is great. But welcome to the show. Guys. How's it

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going thank you.

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It's going okay.

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Oh, we're doing great. We're at a beautiful haunted church

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here in Illinois. Wife Mara East Tennessee home.

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Yeah, we didn't want to really do it at home anyways.

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Absolutely a little background info. You may recognize Michael's voice

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from a few episodes ago. We had a great chat

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about the Tennessee Cryptid camp out. Both Jody and Michael

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were they're in attendance along with myself, so we were

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able to meet there and had a great time. And

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if you haven't listened to Michael's episode yet, I'll make

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sure to have it linked so that you can get

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all the info about the Tennessee Crypti campout. Slowly having

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people on the show to talk about that. I just

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talked to Adam from the Half Inchrench crew. We had

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a good chat about that as well. But when I

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when I met was able to spend a little bit

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of time talking to Jody and Michael, and they had

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told me about some interesting experiences they've had over the years.

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And as I said in Michael's episode, we had we

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were like, well, maybe we could get something recorded during

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the week, but it was so blazing hot and we

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were both like you know, this is not the right

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time to do it, so we'll set something up later.

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And here we are, and you guys are in a

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haunted church. So there you go, extra bonus points. Did

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you know it was an extra Did you know it

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was a haunted church when you went in there or

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found out?

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We are actually the first people apparently in this airbnb

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and we we had a lot of activity last night

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that was inside and multiple multiple sounds, so it's something's

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going on.

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Yeah, it was like someone slammed a book on the floor,

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like and my son said, it's probably a Bible.

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M jikes.

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That's that can always be some I mean, you got

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beautiful stained glass behind you, so that's that's a plus.

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But uh, hopefully you will be able to get out

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of there, uh and and not have any things happened

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to you or follow you back to East Tennessee.

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Oh yeah, hopefully not.

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It's pretty So there you go. It's a little bit

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of a trip. But guys, I've been I've been waiting

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definitely to talk to Jody, and I'm glad Michael is

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here as well. It is something where I wish that

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I could have a conversation like this ever since there

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was a major event that happened. I like, there's got

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to be some people out there that have had stuff happen,

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and I know someday we'll talk to them. So here

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we go. You know, Jody, feel free to take us back.

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I don't know how far back we need to go,

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but I know that we are going to be talking

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about things that have happened on your property over the years.

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Yeah, we've only been there. It'll be four years in

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August and the hurricane happened. It'll be two years in September.

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But we had things happen before that. Actually I did,

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and it just put me in awe because I never

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never knew anything about bigfoot, not even that bigfoot is

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a thing or and I was raised here in Illinois.

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And but then once this start had happening, I remember

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things from my when I was a kid and stuff

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that happened that has just come up lately. But anyways,

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the first thing, we bought the house in August on

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his birthday of twenty two. Yeah, and we were sitting

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out on the porch, which it has three porches, and

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it's really nice. We're right by the chero Key Forest

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and we're there's ten thousand acres of watershed behind us

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at Rocky Fork State Park. And we were just sitting

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out there and enjoying ourselves and we were talking and

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it's like, do you hear anyone talking? I was asking

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Mike and I was and it seemed like it was

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a male and a female.

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We have a branch right right in front of the house,

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so you hear the babbling brook effect, and sometimes it

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sounds like voices. Sometimes it sounds like music, but we

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would hear we would hear almost over the sound of

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the branch.

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Yeah, and I'd like it's like singing. And and I

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was talking to my sister and I'm like, we have

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a babbling brook, you know. And she's like, what what

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are you talking about? And I was like, well, we're here.

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We're hearing, like talking, a female and a male and

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sometimes we're just hearing the creek, and like it just

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reminded me of a babbling brook. And I don't even

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know what that is, but that came to my mind,

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a babbling brook. So anyways, and then about maybe within

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a month or so, I was on the porch and

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I was facing the other porch and Mike was sitting

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towards the yard in the creek, and I just something

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got my attention. I looked over and I saw a

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big head of a dog, and it had locks of

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hair on the side. It had like a mane and

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came down and had black and he kind of tucked

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his head like this, and he had black lips and

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a black nose with some pink in it, and a

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short snout like a rotweiler. I used to have a rotweiler,

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and it was about like that long of a snout

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is short. And I was just looking in. The hair

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looked like tear drops, like the fat part of the

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tear drop, and all around I didn't see any ears

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or anything. And I saw it, and I looked away

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to tell Mike, and I looked back and it was

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still there. And then I was getting ready to tell Mike.

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I don't know what that was. I just saw something.

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But the head was about the size of with the

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maine and everything was about the size of, you know,

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like a little kid's beach ball.

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Sure, and.

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So I just I just forgot about that. We'll not

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really forgot about it, but.

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You said for about six months afterwards, you questioned yourself

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whether you even really saw that, yeah, and I.

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Could see its eyes. It had really shaped eyes like

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a fish almost they went like this, and then a

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line under right. I drew it for Kenny that was

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at the camp out with the eyes looked like and

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they were yellow and trying of some orange in them

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and like lines of orange in them, and huge eyes

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like like at least a silver dollar. And I'm just like, ohh,

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you know. And then I kept trying to draw it,

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and I was asking my son to draw it because

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he's an artist, and he just never got around to it,

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you know, and I just let it go. But then

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December twenty ninth of twenty two, still, that's when we

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bought the house, right, twenty two, Yes, okay, December twenty

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ninth to twenty two, I came We lived in a

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cabin and I came up from the bedroom to the

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kitchen and I was sitting there and I asked Mike,

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I go, man, seems like today is really going slow.

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And I can't believe I'm eating around noon and he goes,

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it's like twenty till two. And I was like, oh wow,

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it really is going slow for me. And then I

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was sitting there eating lunch and looked up it out

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the window. We got windows all in the front of

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the house in the kitchen, and they're up high. I

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look across the I was just looking, and there's a

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ridge that's outside our house, pretty far and not real

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far if you just went straight across. But anyways, I

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was sitting there and I seen a great, big big foot.

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Never seen bigfoot in my life, and didn't know, didn't

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know anything about bigfoot or any of the stuff. And

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the he was he was like blonde and red mixed,

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and he was walking across the ridge and I was

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and it seemed like he was looking at me. And

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he had a face of a like an Indian, but

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the skin was light, it's like a tannish color. And uh.

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And then he then Mike comes in the kitchen and

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he's talking and he's over to the right of me,

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and I'm trying to get the words out because I

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was in awe and he was huge.

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I would say it at least ten foot tall. I'll

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tell him about the size, Okay, you tell me. And

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you said he was striding like just like he didn't care.

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He was just striding right across looking at you like

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he didn't care. That you saw him, and okay, but you.

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Could see me, you can see me, and I can

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see him.

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I think bigger than ten feet because a little while

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after that there was a storm and they were up

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working on the power lines and we were watching them,

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watching the guys, and I saw this little little orange

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speck and I thought, I thought, oh, but is that

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a did they leave a cooler up there? Or is

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that a gas can?

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Go? Is that people?

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It was somebody in an orange vest and you could

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barely see it. Yeah, So to clearly see a squatch time,

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you said twelve twelve to fourteen feet.

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He said ten to thirteen. Yes, wasn't sure because because

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Mike's almost seven foot.

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Yeah, And I guarantee that since I couldn't make out

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a person on the hill to clearly see a squatch,

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he had to be huge.

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And that's wild. As he's walking and I'm Mike comes

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around and is standing in front of me, and I

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yelled Bob, Bob, and I don't even know Bob or anything,

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and Mi just looks at me weird, like what's this

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all about? And I said, that's what his name is,

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I guess. And I tried to tell him that I

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just saw I think it's a big foot, and but

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I yell out, Bob. It wasn't just like Bob. It

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was Bob like that. And then I get this mind

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speak thing besides Bob, and he makes me say it,

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and he says, I'm the protector of the forest, and

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I'm just really, I'm nervous right now this happening.

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You're doing great at the time. But anyway, Jody real

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quick in a few questions before he continue. So you

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said Bob. And then how soon afterwards was it that

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you heard that in your mind?

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Oh, not long, about the same time that I was

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trying to tell Mike. I saw something else. Ten to

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thirteen foot tall, had to weigh at least eight hundred pounds,

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and I think it's a big foot. Never have I

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said big foot in my life.

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Okay, gotcha.

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But it's like he conversated that he's so confident and

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everything that was happening.

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So you've got that going on. And then the face

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that you saw earlier in that first story, what do

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you think that was?

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Well, now, I really think that there's not much difference

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between a dog man or a squatch, only that the

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squatch didn't have fur on its face. Yeah, and the

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dog thing did. And it had a short snout and

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right where the nose meets the face, it had like

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a browner It was kind of a blondish red with

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a pink of black nose, and then right where the

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nose starts to come out, it was like brown right here.

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Yeah, you compared the main to a lion.

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Oh.

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Yeah, that's why I wanted to see the picture from

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the camp out that had the main around it. So

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I'm thinking, is that the same thing you saw?

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Yeah, I've been thinking about that while she's been describing that.

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I'm like, man, that is weird because what you see

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in that picture it looks like a lion's main and

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it's I'm still weirded out.

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Yeah.

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That was where I knew anything about dog Man or anything.

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I just saw it. And our porch is at least

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eight foot tall off the ground, and it just had

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its head sitting on the porch on the side and

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where the steps come up. It wasn't our porch isn't low.

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It's up a hill and there's a stream that's going

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underneath our steps like a spring, and uh, it just

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had its head up there and had its head kind

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of cocked and had a mischievous smile like on his

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face and just real thick black lips and a black nose.

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But there was pink like around up here by the

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where the nose starts, and then there was brown right

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here where the eyes and the nose starts.

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Do do you have any close by neighbors or you

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guys kind of far out there?

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Yeah, yeah, we have, we have neighbors right across the street. Oh,

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and we have to say the strange thing. I would,

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I would kind of like to know if anyone has

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ever seen this. It was till that that first December

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when we moved in, they went out. The whole family.

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Now they're kind of standoffish, so we don't have a

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lot to do with them, to say the least, but

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we watched them early on. It was in December the

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whole family went out with a case of mountain dew voodoo.

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It was a full case. It's small like it was

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an empty case. There they went across to the next

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neighbor's property, who's not there very often, but they treated

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like it's their property. At the edge of the line

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going up the hill and the trees, they put out

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ten mountain dews in a circle and two sitting on top,

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and the whole family, the whole family put them out.

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Yeah, and we were just like that.

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The way she was carrying it was a full case.

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Yeah.

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Now, now we went we went back down south because

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we weren't fully moved in yet. When we came back,

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it had snowed. We saw a reflection up on the hill.

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We went up and there was a one mountain dew

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up there. One side was pushed in like if you

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took your thumb and pushed it in, and the other

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side had three or four holes in it, almost like

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nails were punched in. It wasn't opened, but it was.

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They were spread out. Some of them were pretty far

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up the hill and spread out. We didn't see when

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it happened because you were gone in the snow. But

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the one was like if you took your hand and

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punched it in pas and three or four claw like

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claws or sharp nails. It punched holes in it. Now,

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I don't think a raccoon would drag it up the hills.

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So I was just and we heard they were from Virginia,

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so we said, well, I've heard about mountain dew and

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mothman but I've never heard of the mountain dew for squash,

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and the way they put it in the circle, it

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was almost like an offering. And I was still kind

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of skeptical at the time, and that came to my mind.

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It's like they were putting that out for something.

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Yeah, oh man, that makes me wonder. I'm sure there's it.

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And I know you said you don't really you're not

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super close, But I'm sure there's other stories sides the

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ones that you have in this area. But Jody, I

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want to make sure that that we kind of that

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we get back on the trail a little bit. So

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after after you have this experience where you had this

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visual of one up on the ridge and then you

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have that mind speak experience. Some might even call it telepathy,

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How did how did things start to change for you

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guys after that?

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Wow, I can.

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Tell my part other than other than her visuals, which

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you know, is you know, you have to sort of go, okay,

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I believe yeah, you're you'd say you don't have an imagination.

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I believe it. Believe me.

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Yeah, saw this stuff in him. I didn't think he's like,

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oh this is nonsense.

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We we we we took care of my dad for

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the last six weeks of his life. And that was

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right after we moved in in May of twenty three.

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What At one point I went up to I'm solo,

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hiked up, just read his ashes at a at a

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trail shelter, and as I'm packing up, getting ready to go,

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a tree gets pushed. As I'm leaving walking out. Ten

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minutes later, another tree gets pushed, and I'm the I

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was like, I know about the topic, but I would say, oh,

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trees just fall. But I later came to realize the

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roots cracked. It was a push. I've heard. I heard

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a couple of yelp Later in the spring, I heard

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a couple of wolves. Something trying to imitate the morning

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does Hi.

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He hikes at least every week.

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I've heard those whoops twice in four years.

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I won't even go in the woods anymore.

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So so at that point it was pretty obvious that

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something was pushing trees and making whoops that didn't make

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any sense. So at that point I was fully on

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board that something strange is there.

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Yeah, yeah, And there's been a lot more. Our neighbors

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and the other set of neighbors told us about they

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have big foot activity, and they lived behind us, caddy

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cornered like two acres over and they also have a

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cabin behind us about maybe an acre back over the

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top of our ridge. There's a cabin back there. And

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we went over there to they take care of their

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grand babies. And they've done this several times in their

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life with their kids and stuff, and they're full time

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parents and they're our age. And we went over there

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one day to take something. I think it was one

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of their birthdays or something. And we went over there

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and we saw that there was a car parked in

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the driveway that on the plate said Mothman and we

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were just joking around and it was their daughter and

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she's like, oh yeah, you know. Didn't go into detail

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or anything. We went to the house and and somehow

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the subject came up besides Mathman, and I told him

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that I've seen a bigfoot out here. Had they had

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any anything happened like that? And they told us, yeah,

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that they saw one, the shadow of one that was

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like fifteen to sixteen foot tall, going to work at

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four point thirty in the morning off the ridge, the

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same ridge and the curve where I saw mine. And

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they also told us that they've had a bigfoot bring

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in one of the baby bigfoots while they were in

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bed and put the baby in the bed with them. Okay,

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really yeah, And he was and the parents our friend

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sleep in different beds because they both have a grandchild

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that they sleep with their their country. Okay. And they

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brought the baby bigfoot into the bedroom and he was

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holding it, coddling it and talking to it just in

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I'm sure he was in amazement whatever it was going on.

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And he tells us that and stuff. And then she said, yeah,

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I hear I hear him in there talking and I

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was like, who's talking? Who's he talking to? And stuff?

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And then the baby Bigfoot went in that other bedroom

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and crawled up the bottom of the bed under the

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covers and was laying behind her. And they're telling me this,

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and I'm just like, this is pretty wild, especially when

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I knew nothing about bigfoot. And then the other day

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they said we stopped. We were going to town and

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she was weeding and she said, yeah, my husband swears

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that they're keeping him up at night. And I've been

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up for like three days and three nights. It's like

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thirty some hours. I couldn't go to sleep because all

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the activity. She said, he swears that they are keeping

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him up on purpose. And I'd been going through that

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for at least thirty six hours. I hadn't been a sleep,

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which they do all kinds of stuff.

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Yeah, which I think brings us to Helene.

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Yeah, it brings us to Helene.

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Oh and I think about the last thing that happened

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other than a few sightings is we had a house

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slap that woke me up from the sound sleep and

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my vision was shaking. We have a it's not a cabin,

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but it's a two bedroom, one bedroom, one bedroom house. Yeah,

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two roomhouse, but it was still hard enough right right

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behind us. I went looking and there is a crack

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in the sighting and it's literally right in the middle

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of our bed.

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Yeah, we're our heads are we had that happen? Mike said, Oh,

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it's probably a lot or something, and there's like okay,

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and then he goes out and checks the next day.

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And because he was still a skeptic, gotsch.

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Before you get into Helene, can you share when you

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you were saying you were being kept up for like

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thirty six hours by things they were doing. What kind

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of things were they doing to keep you up for

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three days.

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Wow.

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Running across the roof, running across the roof. Oh, they

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make this metal sound that sounds like a sheet metal

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and some of it. Some it's Oh. They jump out

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of trees or off of stuff, and you can hear

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them land on the ground. You can hear it.

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Yeah.

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Uh, they run around our house.

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Doesn't creak. It'll go three or four nights. Sometimes we

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won't hear it.

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Anything.

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You'll hear right on the side. You describe it as

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something leaning up against the sidings. It's a distinct creek. Yeah, okay,

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and it's not a natural creak that we did in

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here is up high.

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Yes, and these have to here. And also I saw

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juvenile the other day right before the camp out. I

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was doing dishes and sin but let's anyways, I saw

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juvenile standing on there's like hills that go up to

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the ridges, and uh, it was standing by the tree.

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Brought all this is in the daylight. Everything I've seen

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is all. But what just happened Friday. It was three

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thirty in the morning and that happened, And so I

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believe it was a female. But we'll go to Helene.

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We're kind of doing us in chronological order. Ye, but

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there's just so much that happened. That's why I said

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I need to write this stuff down.

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Yeah, and so feel free to go right ahead. And

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so maybe there's going to be listeners that don't have

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the context of what Helene is. Maybe they're in different

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countries or it's in the future and they just don't know.

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Could you share a bit of context of when you're

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talking about Helene, what that situation was as well.

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Hurricane Helene, it started on a Thursday. We were leaving

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to go to concert and it was raining, and we

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kind of knew about it, but by the time we

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got to Willington, North Carolina, they canceled our our concert.

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And if we were known that, we would have went

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back home, but we would have been trapped at home.

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Yeah. We thought it was just going to be a

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tropical storm because we're here so far inland.

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Yeah, And it was thirty nine for the water and

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it took out hospitals, homes at one intersection of the river.

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I mean, the river has just changed as the Nolachucki,

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which means river or death. It changed the flow of

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the river, and I think it changed more than that

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there's just that we didn't even have roads to really

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go anywhere for a year. So I mean we could

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get to town. And when we came back from that

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trip to the concert we were going we had we

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couldn't get home for five days because they had to

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make a makeshift road so we could get home. And

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once we got home, we had no power for over

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two weeks, and it worched our driveway out and it

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did some damage to our house.

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But with the wind, but we're up high enough, Yeah,

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we didn't have water damage.

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We didn't have water damage.

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Wow.

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But it's at one section of the river close to

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us had like two hundred and fifty some vehicles in

466
00:27:52.759 --> 00:27:54.200
the in the river.

467
00:27:54.359 --> 00:27:59.519
And there are the east facing hillsides are just almost

468
00:28:00.079 --> 00:28:03.880
weight of trees. Yeah. I have pictures where they're just

469
00:28:03.920 --> 00:28:07.640
piled twenty thirty feet high after they cleared them. And

470
00:28:07.680 --> 00:28:11.400
it was just devastation over the whole watershed.

471
00:28:11.960 --> 00:28:16.000
Yeah, it was people couldn't leave their homes if they

472
00:28:16.000 --> 00:28:19.319
didn't flop. We just saw houses going down the river

473
00:28:19.400 --> 00:28:23.960
and stuff like that. And we're only like six miles

474
00:28:24.000 --> 00:28:27.359
from the river and we still got it worse. Our

475
00:28:27.440 --> 00:28:30.559
driveway out. It did do that and it moved rocks

476
00:28:31.279 --> 00:28:33.319
that was in the creek that moved them. We're a

477
00:28:33.359 --> 00:28:36.039
good wanted to move them to But anyways, it was

478
00:28:36.240 --> 00:28:40.079
really devastating and we're still trying to They just finally

479
00:28:40.200 --> 00:28:43.319
got the hospital tore down. It was along the water,

480
00:28:44.359 --> 00:28:48.160
and people lost their homes and animals and some people

481
00:28:48.319 --> 00:28:51.759
lost property. I mean they might have had ten acres

482
00:28:51.759 --> 00:28:53.480
and half of it's gone.

483
00:28:53.559 --> 00:28:57.000
Half of it's gone, it's water. They lost their place

484
00:28:57.000 --> 00:28:57.720
to build a house.

485
00:29:00.119 --> 00:29:05.440
Us what happened and then we got home and more

486
00:29:05.480 --> 00:29:07.039
stuff has happened since Helene.

487
00:29:07.559 --> 00:29:09.480
And that was September twenty four.

488
00:29:10.359 --> 00:29:16.519
Yeah, yeah, two years September September twenty fomb. Yeah, it

489
00:29:16.559 --> 00:29:20.160
was September twenty sixth or the twenty eight when the

490
00:29:20.240 --> 00:29:21.279
hurricane came.

491
00:29:22.839 --> 00:29:26.319
So it's you know, I live up in Iowa and

492
00:29:26.480 --> 00:29:28.839
just just to watch all that happen. It was a

493
00:29:28.880 --> 00:29:34.559
horrifying event and I cannot imagine living through something like that.

494
00:29:34.640 --> 00:29:39.799
And there's just there's so much lost and it is

495
00:29:39.839 --> 00:29:45.599
a slow rebuilding process, but thankfully it is happening.

496
00:29:46.440 --> 00:29:46.640
Now.

497
00:29:46.720 --> 00:29:51.359
You're saying that after so you're back in your your

498
00:29:51.400 --> 00:29:55.839
home and you're having to deal with everything is different.

499
00:29:55.960 --> 00:30:01.359
There's no power. Everything is just really uprooted and things

500
00:30:01.400 --> 00:30:05.680
are messed up. But besides that, then you start experiencing

501
00:30:06.440 --> 00:30:10.240
things out of the ordinary. On top of that, Yeah, it.

502
00:30:10.240 --> 00:30:13.400
Was used to have booms, you know what mountains kind

503
00:30:13.400 --> 00:30:18.559
of boom that we know of. And then we started

504
00:30:18.559 --> 00:30:22.799
getting this this metal like sheets in the wind. It's

505
00:30:22.839 --> 00:30:28.200
like wha like that and uh, sounds of metal being

506
00:30:28.279 --> 00:30:32.599
hit and our car sounds like our carport, but it's

507
00:30:32.640 --> 00:30:33.440
not our carport.

508
00:30:33.599 --> 00:30:37.680
Yeah. If you imagine wind picking up aluminum carports, boom,

509
00:30:37.960 --> 00:30:40.720
but it comes from the car port side. It comes

510
00:30:40.759 --> 00:30:43.599
from the back of the house where there's no aluminum. Yeah,

511
00:30:44.119 --> 00:30:46.519
our neighbors are up the hill, and we'll hear that

512
00:30:46.680 --> 00:30:50.920
sound coming from the empty, empty yard and Hillston time too.

513
00:30:51.279 --> 00:30:54.039
Some days we'll only hear it a couple of times

514
00:30:54.119 --> 00:30:54.480
a day.

515
00:30:54.599 --> 00:30:55.960
Yeah, that's mostly daytime.

516
00:30:56.240 --> 00:30:56.519
Yeah.

517
00:30:56.680 --> 00:30:59.359
It almost starts when the sun comes out, so you

518
00:30:59.400 --> 00:31:03.240
almost think it's water on the ground booming, but it's.

519
00:31:02.960 --> 00:31:04.200
Or sometimes sun hit.

520
00:31:04.640 --> 00:31:08.319
But sometimes it does come a night, yeah, and it.

521
00:31:08.279 --> 00:31:09.640
Won't be the song doing that.

522
00:31:10.880 --> 00:31:15.400
And I think the first strange thing that happened was

523
00:31:15.839 --> 00:31:20.720
probably towards the springtime of twenty five. It still took

524
00:31:20.759 --> 00:31:23.440
a still took a couple months for the activity really

525
00:31:23.440 --> 00:31:26.400
to ramp up. But this was something that had never

526
00:31:26.480 --> 00:31:32.720
happened in uh yeah, yeah yeah, but in two years

527
00:31:32.720 --> 00:31:35.759
for us being there. Okay, we tell the rooftop story.

528
00:31:36.519 --> 00:31:40.680
Oh yeah, we would be in the bedroom on this

529
00:31:40.759 --> 00:31:43.960
side and on the kitchen side. We have a front

530
00:31:43.960 --> 00:31:47.559
porch that runs the entire length of the house. Well

531
00:31:47.599 --> 00:31:53.039
from the front corner, it sounded like something sizeable scurring

532
00:31:53.079 --> 00:31:58.599
on the roof. Not I've heard squirrels. I've heard raccoons

533
00:31:58.599 --> 00:31:59.759
on a roof, you can hear there.

534
00:32:00.079 --> 00:32:00.359
Boss.

535
00:32:00.640 --> 00:32:04.839
This was more like if it had if it was

536
00:32:04.880 --> 00:32:08.519
on four feet but taking big steps. We heard it

537
00:32:08.559 --> 00:32:12.920
scurry across. That happened for like three or four times.

538
00:32:13.000 --> 00:32:15.519
Still happens over a couple of weeks. I just still

539
00:32:15.559 --> 00:32:17.559
running on the edge of the wall.

540
00:32:18.559 --> 00:32:21.920
And it would run halfway across and stop. The odd

541
00:32:21.920 --> 00:32:25.759
thing was one time we were in the kitchen and

542
00:32:25.839 --> 00:32:28.079
I heard it run within feet because I was standing

543
00:32:28.119 --> 00:32:31.200
by the door. I opened the door. Well that was

544
00:32:31.240 --> 00:32:34.880
the last time that we heard it that clearly, if

545
00:32:34.880 --> 00:32:38.759
you want to speculate, he opened the door.

546
00:32:38.839 --> 00:32:43.359
Just jump off the groove or anything.

547
00:32:43.599 --> 00:32:46.279
I would speculate there was something running across that was

548
00:32:46.319 --> 00:32:48.640
told you were too close that time.

549
00:32:49.559 --> 00:32:52.839
Yeah, and to be seen, but I've already seen.

550
00:32:53.279 --> 00:32:55.960
And then about three weeks later we heard once we

551
00:32:55.960 --> 00:32:58.920
were in the bedroom, heard it start at the corner.

552
00:32:59.039 --> 00:33:01.880
It ran like a figure eight off to that corner

553
00:33:01.920 --> 00:33:06.240
and stops. Now, even if it was wind under the eaves,

554
00:33:06.279 --> 00:33:09.920
it doesn't do circles. The wind would come in and end.

555
00:33:11.480 --> 00:33:12.640
I don't know what that was.

556
00:33:13.079 --> 00:33:16.240
I've heard bare feet run around the corner of the house.

557
00:33:16.759 --> 00:33:20.559
Bare feet. How could anyone hear bare feet? But they

558
00:33:20.599 --> 00:33:24.279
had to have been big and heavy, and it sounded

559
00:33:24.440 --> 00:33:28.960
just like bare feet rolling around the corner. And our

560
00:33:29.200 --> 00:33:32.359
hill goes down. The house is even with the top

561
00:33:32.400 --> 00:33:34.119
of the hill, and then it goes down on the

562
00:33:34.160 --> 00:33:36.680
side of the end of the house. And that's what

563
00:33:36.759 --> 00:33:39.599
I heard, go around the corner of the house and

564
00:33:39.640 --> 00:33:43.599
down that hill. But I only heard three footsteps, but

565
00:33:43.759 --> 00:33:47.039
Mike heard like five, and it was like he was

566
00:33:47.119 --> 00:33:51.319
awake and listening, and it's like it it let him

567
00:33:51.319 --> 00:33:54.240
know that he knew he was listening because she pounded

568
00:33:55.079 --> 00:33:55.880
the last step.

569
00:33:56.279 --> 00:33:59.039
This was recently a lot of times, a lot of

570
00:33:59.039 --> 00:34:01.400
times Juli will hear the steps, but if she's listening

571
00:34:01.400 --> 00:34:03.640
to something on the phone or TV's going, I don't

572
00:34:03.680 --> 00:34:07.200
hear them. Well, actually, this is about eleven and I

573
00:34:07.240 --> 00:34:09.440
just heard Stelsea steps, so I had to really strain.

574
00:34:10.159 --> 00:34:13.599
I heard one, two, three, four walking away from house

575
00:34:13.920 --> 00:34:17.599
and the fifth one went boom, and there was a reverberation,

576
00:34:18.039 --> 00:34:21.320
and I'm thinking, oh it was it could tell maybe

577
00:34:21.360 --> 00:34:22.880
I was trainning to hear it and instaid I'm going

578
00:34:22.920 --> 00:34:23.840
to make you hear this one.

579
00:34:25.119 --> 00:34:30.360
He was concentrating on it. That's also it happens a lot.

580
00:34:31.480 --> 00:34:35.280
I don't like talking about him at home. I've had

581
00:34:35.679 --> 00:34:38.760
he goes to town a lot. I'm not a shopper,

582
00:34:39.039 --> 00:34:43.280
but I will shop for my personal stuff. So anyways,

583
00:34:43.320 --> 00:34:45.360
he goes to town a lot, and I've had a

584
00:34:45.400 --> 00:34:47.760
lot of stuff happen while he's in town or at

585
00:34:47.760 --> 00:34:52.079
a meeting or something. And one day when we have

586
00:34:52.159 --> 00:34:55.840
a transfer station, we can't have our trash out. We

587
00:34:56.000 --> 00:34:58.920
have to take it to a transfer station and they

588
00:34:58.920 --> 00:35:01.800
don't pick up trash. We don't have garbage trucks and

589
00:35:01.840 --> 00:35:10.679
stuff because a bear and I guess bigfoot now, So anyways, uh,

590
00:35:12.400 --> 00:35:14.639
he took the trash, and I was outside and I thought,

591
00:35:14.719 --> 00:35:18.320
and I always plant a lot of flowers because our

592
00:35:18.360 --> 00:35:21.199
ground is so rocky. You can't have a garden unless

593
00:35:21.239 --> 00:35:25.679
you have a pasture or something maybe, And I said,

594
00:35:25.719 --> 00:35:27.559
I'm just gonna stay out here and plant these flowers.

595
00:35:27.639 --> 00:35:32.039
And was out there planting and he left. I heard

596
00:35:32.119 --> 00:35:37.719
him Mine speak to me. We're watching you, and I said,

597
00:35:38.559 --> 00:35:41.480
I said, and I've been answering these these are I've

598
00:35:41.519 --> 00:35:44.679
had Mine speak several times. And I answered, and I said,

599
00:35:44.719 --> 00:35:48.039
I'm just planting these flowers and I'm going right back

600
00:35:48.079 --> 00:35:51.360
in the house and left it as that. And I

601
00:35:51.440 --> 00:35:54.159
was really nervous. And I shouldn't have been nervous because

602
00:35:54.159 --> 00:35:57.400
there's nobody around and we live at the very end.

603
00:35:57.719 --> 00:36:00.360
There's one man that lives down the road but never

604
00:36:00.480 --> 00:36:04.360
home and stuff. But there's a whole road that it

605
00:36:04.440 --> 00:36:07.599
has hair pins and everything that we don't. We don't

606
00:36:08.000 --> 00:36:11.719
have traffic. And I say that now, but something happened

607
00:36:11.800 --> 00:36:17.599
last week that we had some traffic. But anyways, one time,

608
00:36:17.679 --> 00:36:21.199
I was cleaning the cars out because we're we're going

609
00:36:21.239 --> 00:36:25.679
to camp out, I think, and I wanted to clean

610
00:36:25.719 --> 00:36:27.920
the cars out real good before we load them. And

611
00:36:28.679 --> 00:36:30.280
it might have been. You know, it was before the

612
00:36:30.360 --> 00:36:36.639
camp out, and I have I had two whoops happen

613
00:36:37.400 --> 00:36:40.880
and then uh kind of a yell and it was

614
00:36:40.920 --> 00:36:44.480
two different, two different ones, like letting me know that

615
00:36:44.719 --> 00:36:47.320
I'd been outside long enough. And so I turned on

616
00:36:47.360 --> 00:36:51.199
the stereo in the car so that I wouldn't be

617
00:36:51.320 --> 00:36:55.159
hearing all that. I said, if I start hearing more stuff,

618
00:36:55.199 --> 00:36:57.599
we got to move over. I've been I've set that

619
00:36:57.639 --> 00:37:00.400
in my head because I really don't like hearing stuff.

620
00:37:01.440 --> 00:37:04.119
The mind speak I can kind of deal with more

621
00:37:04.199 --> 00:37:10.280
than hearing stuff. But another mind speaker. We were walking

622
00:37:10.320 --> 00:37:13.679
down that road I was just telling you about, and

623
00:37:14.519 --> 00:37:19.119
I thought there was something up on the the ridge,

624
00:37:19.320 --> 00:37:24.360
like it's like a ridge before ridge. And I heard

625
00:37:24.440 --> 00:37:27.079
him say to me, you think you're really smart, don't you.

626
00:37:28.239 --> 00:37:33.280
Oh yeah, And I'm just walking. I'm just walking and

627
00:37:33.320 --> 00:37:36.000
not and I had noticed that there might be something

628
00:37:36.079 --> 00:37:39.400
up there. This is after the bigfoot sighting that I saw.

629
00:37:40.400 --> 00:37:43.800
And I said, no, I don't think I'm really smart.

630
00:37:44.280 --> 00:37:47.840
I just know you're there, and just kept walking and

631
00:37:48.199 --> 00:37:50.400
I asked him, like, did you hear that? And he's like, no,

632
00:37:50.440 --> 00:37:53.320
I didn't hear anything. And then I was standing by

633
00:37:53.320 --> 00:37:57.039
a tree and I got real dizzy and stuff. And

634
00:37:58.000 --> 00:38:00.800
on the same road, I got real and stuff and

635
00:38:00.840 --> 00:38:03.079
I was like, man, I really feel bad here. I

636
00:38:03.119 --> 00:38:06.280
was hanging onto the tree and stuff and had no

637
00:38:06.360 --> 00:38:10.800
reason for that to happen. And then another mine speak.

638
00:38:10.960 --> 00:38:13.440
Just like when we got back from the camp out.

639
00:38:14.239 --> 00:38:17.159
I was unpacking the suitcase and hanging stuff up and

640
00:38:17.960 --> 00:38:21.880
putting stuff in the laundry and I hear and I'm

641
00:38:21.920 --> 00:38:25.880
looking at Mike. He's on the bed reading and I'm

642
00:38:26.440 --> 00:38:28.719
facing him, and there's a window right behind me, and

643
00:38:28.760 --> 00:38:32.679
I hear hey like that, and I was just my,

644
00:38:32.840 --> 00:38:35.920
did you just hear that? He's like, no, I didn't

645
00:38:35.960 --> 00:38:38.119
hear that. Ido. Someone just said hey, and it was

646
00:38:38.199 --> 00:38:43.320
real deep voice. You know. There's a porch all the

647
00:38:43.360 --> 00:38:48.760
way around that where that window is. And man, I'm

648
00:38:48.760 --> 00:38:51.039
trying to I have this stuff wrote down town I

649
00:38:51.079 --> 00:38:53.199
need to talk about. Can you think of it?

650
00:38:53.639 --> 00:38:58.320
Yeah. A couple of months ago, we had something about

651
00:38:58.440 --> 00:39:01.599
nine forty at night. We're in bed a bit early.

652
00:39:04.400 --> 00:39:07.880
If you imagine jumping up in the air coming down

653
00:39:07.880 --> 00:39:11.000
with one foot, there was a there was a slight footfall.

654
00:39:11.559 --> 00:39:15.960
The second foot came down and shook the house and

655
00:39:16.039 --> 00:39:19.320
it sounded like it was it was dark, it was

656
00:39:19.519 --> 00:39:22.800
after dark. It sounded like it was in the yard.

657
00:39:24.119 --> 00:39:27.119
Okay, so hold on. So it was something that came

658
00:39:27.239 --> 00:39:29.920
down and hit the ground, but it was so hard that.

659
00:39:29.920 --> 00:39:33.159
It shook the house, hit the ground. Wow, it was

660
00:39:33.199 --> 00:39:35.559
literally And it's it's like I say, if you tried

661
00:39:35.559 --> 00:39:38.320
to concentrate all your force in your second footfall that.

662
00:39:38.440 --> 00:39:47.719
Is, and then then stopped itself. On two. We're hearing,

663
00:39:48.119 --> 00:39:55.599
we're hearing football and jumping, and it sometimes vibrates the house.

664
00:39:55.679 --> 00:39:57.719
Sometimes you just hear like the vibration.

665
00:39:58.960 --> 00:40:01.920
Yeah, yeah, we hear. We stops. We hear stops pretty regular,

666
00:40:02.920 --> 00:40:05.239
not so hard, but there's definitely something going boom on

667
00:40:05.280 --> 00:40:05.679
the ground.

668
00:40:05.840 --> 00:40:09.840
Oh and after before the hurricane, I was sitting on

669
00:40:09.880 --> 00:40:14.159
the court of the bed and I saw probably at

670
00:40:14.239 --> 00:40:18.639
least I say eight foot nine foot squatch run by

671
00:40:19.159 --> 00:40:22.079
on the neighbor's property, looking right at me while he's

672
00:40:22.119 --> 00:40:24.360
in stride, he's looking right at me in the window

673
00:40:24.400 --> 00:40:29.000
and keeps running. And that one was that one was

674
00:40:29.119 --> 00:40:32.480
like a dark chocolate brown, but it had white around

675
00:40:33.079 --> 00:40:35.719
around here. When he was looking at me, his face

676
00:40:35.880 --> 00:40:40.079
was like a tan colored. Again, it wasn't an Indian face.

677
00:40:40.159 --> 00:40:44.800
It looked more animal, but it was running and in stride.

678
00:40:44.840 --> 00:40:46.760
He's running and I'm sitting on the corner of the

679
00:40:46.760 --> 00:40:49.840
bed and I said, wait a minute, Mike, and I said, oh,

680
00:40:50.000 --> 00:40:53.360
just forget it. Because I was so fed up with

681
00:40:54.079 --> 00:40:57.920
seeing things. I just said, never mind, I'll tell you later.

682
00:40:58.039 --> 00:41:00.000
And this was at four point thirty in the afternoon.

683
00:41:01.239 --> 00:41:03.639
It was in the spring. I think it was like

684
00:41:03.719 --> 00:41:08.400
April and May, after the December sighting, and before was

685
00:41:08.519 --> 00:41:14.559
in August to September. I saw the dog thing, but

686
00:41:14.639 --> 00:41:17.199
it was huge and it was running, and I definitely

687
00:41:17.880 --> 00:41:20.360
I want to tell you about what happened Friday night.

688
00:41:21.159 --> 00:41:23.840
This is really wild. And I thought it was a

689
00:41:23.840 --> 00:41:28.519
female for some reason. Friday night, I'd been up all

690
00:41:28.599 --> 00:41:31.800
night and they keep me away, they really do, because

691
00:41:31.880 --> 00:41:35.679
I hear stuff. I have really good hearing and good eyesight.

692
00:41:35.719 --> 00:41:39.559
I could see really far away and I guess I

693
00:41:39.599 --> 00:41:43.519
have nineteen twenty, whatever that is. And I told Mike

694
00:41:43.679 --> 00:41:45.760
the doctor said I have nineteen twenty because I thought

695
00:41:45.800 --> 00:41:51.639
I see it. Thanks. And anyways, there's a car that

696
00:41:51.719 --> 00:41:55.639
goes by and nobody and yet came up from the

697
00:41:55.440 --> 00:41:57.800
of the pen. We'll be calm.

698
00:41:58.360 --> 00:42:03.920
The Hairpin Hairpin, the one lane mountain road that ridge,

699
00:42:04.199 --> 00:42:05.639
nobody has business driving up.

700
00:42:05.679 --> 00:42:09.000
At three in the morning, three point thirty eight, a

701
00:42:09.039 --> 00:42:12.800
car goes by and I was like, Mike, you heard

702
00:42:12.800 --> 00:42:13.760
that car, didn't you.

703
00:42:13.880 --> 00:42:15.599
Yeah, that's what woke me up.

704
00:42:15.760 --> 00:42:17.599
Yeah, I said, you heard that car, didn't you. And

705
00:42:17.639 --> 00:42:21.480
that's just weird because we hardly ever have anybody even

706
00:42:21.559 --> 00:42:24.400
in the daytime. The mailman and the guy who lives

707
00:42:24.440 --> 00:42:27.840
down the road, which we met him one time and

708
00:42:27.880 --> 00:42:29.960
he said, well, I'll see you again, probably about five

709
00:42:30.039 --> 00:42:33.239
years because we don't see each other. I mean, he

710
00:42:33.320 --> 00:42:34.920
really lives out there by the hairpin.

711
00:42:35.159 --> 00:42:37.840
And it was a distinctive motor. Yeah, we know the

712
00:42:38.000 --> 00:42:38.559
same car.

713
00:42:39.199 --> 00:42:44.000
Old plunker like car. Okay, Well, at four oh two

714
00:42:44.159 --> 00:42:50.360
the car comes back and I look out. I set

715
00:42:50.480 --> 00:42:52.519
up to see the car because I can see the

716
00:42:52.559 --> 00:42:56.360
car because we're up higher than the road and I

717
00:42:56.400 --> 00:42:59.880
can see cars that are coming and going even at night.

718
00:43:00.559 --> 00:43:04.480
And uh, it was really dark out. And I set

719
00:43:04.559 --> 00:43:07.320
up and I'm looking leaning on the elbow, looking out

720
00:43:07.320 --> 00:43:12.559
the window. Our windows really high up too, and I

721
00:43:12.639 --> 00:43:15.679
look out and I said, those I have flashlights and

722
00:43:15.760 --> 00:43:21.280
they just lit up a squatch shadow. And then I realized,

723
00:43:21.320 --> 00:43:23.880
it's that car coming by. I looked right at the clock.

724
00:43:24.280 --> 00:43:26.679
It's that car coming by in the headlights that kind

725
00:43:26.679 --> 00:43:30.199
of turns kind of curves there after our house and

726
00:43:30.320 --> 00:43:36.639
goes down the other direction, and there's a squatch standing there,

727
00:43:37.320 --> 00:43:39.719
and I think it was Now this is just my

728
00:43:39.880 --> 00:43:43.239
mind how it works. It kind of reminded me like

729
00:43:43.320 --> 00:43:46.079
it was standing like it was a tree, so they

730
00:43:46.079 --> 00:43:49.239
wouldn't see it, but I seen it and it wasn't

731
00:43:49.280 --> 00:43:51.679
a shadow. I thought it was a shadow of a squatch.

732
00:43:52.159 --> 00:43:55.599
But it was so big that's what made me. The

733
00:43:55.639 --> 00:43:59.480
headlights on the car and turning turning the way that

734
00:43:59.559 --> 00:44:04.079
the squatch was standing. Uh, it was. It was just

735
00:44:04.199 --> 00:44:10.480
like the typical uh, mahogany. It was mahogany colored like

736
00:44:10.599 --> 00:44:12.880
with the blonde and the black and the brown like

737
00:44:12.960 --> 00:44:16.480
in the hair, and its head tilted forward like this,

738
00:44:17.360 --> 00:44:20.400
and I just I said, that is a squatch. I

739
00:44:20.400 --> 00:44:22.159
thought it was the neighbors because they got a thing

740
00:44:22.199 --> 00:44:26.159
for flashlights. And I always say, if those kids only

741
00:44:26.239 --> 00:44:29.679
knew what they're gonna see with those flashlights, if they

742
00:44:29.840 --> 00:44:30.880
hadn't already seen it.

743
00:44:30.960 --> 00:44:34.760
But they and there's only two big trees in that field,

744
00:44:35.239 --> 00:44:37.039
they're they're huge and there's.

745
00:44:36.920 --> 00:44:41.760
Not there big tree. It was like it's like a

746
00:44:41.800 --> 00:44:45.639
meadow right there, and it was like being over like this.

747
00:44:45.639 --> 00:44:49.480
This was last Friday. And what just really got me

748
00:44:49.760 --> 00:44:53.679
was the hair there was you couldn't tell the shoulders,

749
00:44:53.719 --> 00:44:58.199
where the shoulders were anything. And it was sideways you know, profile.

750
00:44:58.280 --> 00:45:00.559
I could see the profile, you could and tell where

751
00:45:00.559 --> 00:45:03.079
the shoulders were or anything. There's just so much hair

752
00:45:04.199 --> 00:45:09.800
and draping down and I just I don't. This still

753
00:45:09.800 --> 00:45:11.760
makes me nervousy in that, And I was like, if

754
00:45:11.800 --> 00:45:15.400
that is what is outside the house, a female with

755
00:45:15.519 --> 00:45:20.000
these kids that she has, It's just it's almost it's

756
00:45:20.039 --> 00:45:21.800
too much to take really, And.

757
00:45:21.719 --> 00:45:23.840
I miss seeing it by a fraction. I was going

758
00:45:23.880 --> 00:45:25.639
to I was going to get out the case. We

759
00:45:25.679 --> 00:45:27.719
saw heard the car come back down. I stayed down

760
00:45:27.760 --> 00:45:29.679
and I saw the corner of the headlight as I

761
00:45:29.719 --> 00:45:30.280
was sitting up.

762
00:45:31.039 --> 00:45:34.400
Dan, that's the worst I've been in that situation where

763
00:45:34.400 --> 00:45:35.400
you just miss it.

764
00:45:35.960 --> 00:45:40.079
But this watch was so big, Jeremiah, that that it

765
00:45:40.159 --> 00:45:45.480
looked like the shadow. You know how your shadow looks bigger? Yeah, Yeah,

766
00:45:45.639 --> 00:45:47.599
it was so big. I thought it was a shadow

767
00:45:48.280 --> 00:45:52.119
of a little swatch because I've been having a daycare

768
00:45:53.320 --> 00:45:54.880
twenty four to seven over here.

769
00:45:55.920 --> 00:46:00.960
Gotcha have you guys? So you definitely having some some

770
00:46:01.119 --> 00:46:05.320
wild activity. Has there ever been a time when you've

771
00:46:05.480 --> 00:46:08.039
been looking around outside and you've noticed like, hey, that

772
00:46:08.159 --> 00:46:10.960
kind of looks like a track or anything that could

773
00:46:10.960 --> 00:46:11.800
have been like behind.

774
00:46:12.880 --> 00:46:16.880
Yes, we we we came back from a trip to

775
00:46:16.920 --> 00:46:20.960
the West coast. And was it the long trip?

776
00:46:21.480 --> 00:46:23.159
Yeah, it was after we went to Oregon.

777
00:46:23.800 --> 00:46:27.000
It was a long trip. And we noticed that up

778
00:46:27.079 --> 00:46:31.000
our hillside we're we're the bedroom, we're on a on

779
00:46:31.079 --> 00:46:34.000
a on a hill that after it rains, we're practically

780
00:46:34.000 --> 00:46:36.639
sitting on springs. Our back of our houses can be

781
00:46:36.679 --> 00:46:42.280
a swamp almost us. Well, we saw some slides on

782
00:46:42.320 --> 00:46:46.119
the hill right next to our bedroom window. I got

783
00:46:46.119 --> 00:46:49.000
some pictures. They're not they're not huge, but you can

784
00:46:49.039 --> 00:46:52.039
see I did it with that kind of light our

785
00:46:52.320 --> 00:46:56.079
pictures scanner, and you can see toes.

786
00:46:57.000 --> 00:47:00.400
Yeah, and you can see the brass picked up too.

787
00:47:00.519 --> 00:47:03.480
It must have been heavy because it moved the grass

788
00:47:03.840 --> 00:47:05.599
which is there on that hillside.

789
00:47:05.599 --> 00:47:07.440
And I go up with the moor on the hillside,

790
00:47:07.440 --> 00:47:09.880
and I know before we left, I didn't make those

791
00:47:09.920 --> 00:47:14.079
indentations in the grass. Yeah, it was dry, Yeah, and

792
00:47:14.679 --> 00:47:18.280
I would have seen them. It's twelve inches by four

793
00:47:18.440 --> 00:47:19.480
so it's not huge.

794
00:47:20.599 --> 00:47:23.480
But it could be a person. But who's going to be.

795
00:47:24.280 --> 00:47:27.480
There's nobody out there that's that. But oh and we

796
00:47:27.840 --> 00:47:33.239
down the road. This is before helene Ah. This was

797
00:47:33.440 --> 00:47:37.559
probably just twenty early twenty four. I'd have to look

798
00:47:37.559 --> 00:47:40.679
at the date there. The knuckle prints.

799
00:47:40.760 --> 00:47:42.599
Oh yeah, we got a picture of that too.

800
00:47:43.320 --> 00:47:47.360
Uh there's a print. It's it's dug out. It comes down, Yeah,

801
00:47:47.599 --> 00:47:50.000
it comes down. It's almost a nine degree angle. And

802
00:47:50.039 --> 00:47:51.760
if I put my fingers in it, you can see

803
00:47:51.760 --> 00:47:55.599
the lynx. It matches my hand on.

804
00:47:55.599 --> 00:47:58.800
An embankment on an embankment. And I was like, Mike,

805
00:47:58.920 --> 00:48:02.360
look at that. Doesn't that looks like it fingers or something?

806
00:48:02.519 --> 00:48:04.639
And then I was looking at us, like, it looks

807
00:48:04.679 --> 00:48:09.400
like knuckles and it looked like the incline it did

808
00:48:09.480 --> 00:48:11.760
this to get up there, and this I'm talking about

809
00:48:11.760 --> 00:48:16.679
a big incline. It's like, well, fifteen foot probably fifteen

810
00:48:16.719 --> 00:48:17.679
to seventeen foot.

811
00:48:17.800 --> 00:48:19.239
We could send you the pictures.

812
00:48:19.480 --> 00:48:22.159
Yeah, I was actually just going to ask if that

813
00:48:22.199 --> 00:48:24.519
would be a possibility. I would love to see them.

814
00:48:25.159 --> 00:48:26.639
Yeah, we can send an email.

815
00:48:27.000 --> 00:48:30.320
Yeah, yes, yeah, cool cool. Yeah, I definitely would love

816
00:48:30.360 --> 00:48:35.599
to check those out. Have has the dog man type

817
00:48:35.599 --> 00:48:37.480
creature only shown up the one time?

818
00:48:39.320 --> 00:48:44.199
Yeah, I've only seen it the very first time, and

819
00:48:44.239 --> 00:48:46.599
it was it was beautiful. I want you to know

820
00:48:46.679 --> 00:48:50.440
that that dog was beautiful. I'm a dog lover, and

821
00:48:50.800 --> 00:48:54.239
anyone will tell you in the horse Lever that dog

822
00:48:54.400 --> 00:48:59.039
was beautiful. It even had like eyeliner around its eyes.

823
00:49:00.280 --> 00:49:04.679
It looked like a blue gill the the art of

824
00:49:04.800 --> 00:49:06.840
the eye, and then it would go down like this,

825
00:49:06.960 --> 00:49:09.440
and then it had looked like it had eyeliner on

826
00:49:09.719 --> 00:49:11.039
right here in the corner.

827
00:49:12.440 --> 00:49:19.199
Okay, that's very strange. So you have underground water just

828
00:49:19.320 --> 00:49:21.159
behind the house, it sounds like.

829
00:49:21.519 --> 00:49:24.840
Yeah, that's our drinking water. We have mountain water. Okay,

830
00:49:25.159 --> 00:49:29.199
we have a well thing, No, go ahead.

831
00:49:29.480 --> 00:49:32.800
I was gonna what kind of rocks do you have

832
00:49:32.880 --> 00:49:33.480
in that area?

833
00:49:34.119 --> 00:49:34.639
A lot of.

834
00:49:36.840 --> 00:49:39.960
Oh boy, we have we have a lot of granite.

835
00:49:40.360 --> 00:49:41.519
It's an apple achian.

836
00:49:42.159 --> 00:49:44.599
Yeah. We get the granite and the quartz.

837
00:49:44.400 --> 00:49:47.519
Yeah granted, and the quarts and and we have some

838
00:49:47.599 --> 00:49:51.679
slate looking yeah, yeah, yeah, there's some that's more fine,

839
00:49:51.840 --> 00:49:56.280
like when they when they dug out, like they've fixed

840
00:49:56.280 --> 00:49:59.599
our road over here left of our house and you

841
00:49:59.639 --> 00:50:02.400
can see like slices of granted in there.

842
00:50:04.320 --> 00:50:07.559
Okay, so yeah, it reminds me of a few conversations.

843
00:50:07.760 --> 00:50:12.000
Oh yeah, what I was gonna say. It reminds me

844
00:50:12.039 --> 00:50:14.880
of a few conversations I've had from people with people

845
00:50:14.880 --> 00:50:21.000
from Oregon, where there's one gentleman, Henry Franzoni, and he

846
00:50:21.039 --> 00:50:24.880
would always point out he'd be like, I'd find that

847
00:50:25.280 --> 00:50:29.199
areas where there's underground water and a lot of quartz

848
00:50:29.480 --> 00:50:34.480
seems to be almost supercharged up with bigfoot activity in

849
00:50:34.519 --> 00:50:36.480
a way. So when you said that, I was like, Oh,

850
00:50:36.519 --> 00:50:39.039
that's that's very interesting. Could be something there.

851
00:50:39.559 --> 00:50:44.119
I want to tell you about something. Right before the

852
00:50:44.199 --> 00:50:48.639
camp out that we went to in April, we went

853
00:50:49.039 --> 00:50:52.840
came back here to Illinois to move some stuff out

854
00:50:52.880 --> 00:50:57.039
of my mom's house. She deceased. But we moved some

855
00:50:57.079 --> 00:50:59.039
stuff and we brought it into U Hah and we

856
00:50:59.119 --> 00:51:05.519
put it under our and it's all containers and we

857
00:51:05.599 --> 00:51:08.719
stacked them up. We didn't do them too high, like

858
00:51:09.159 --> 00:51:12.599
two or three three at the most, and they all

859
00:51:12.599 --> 00:51:16.199
were It looked really neat compared to us having a

860
00:51:16.239 --> 00:51:22.400
carport with no enclosure. And anyways, about a week later,

861
00:51:23.360 --> 00:51:26.199
I was we went out there, maybe not even a week.

862
00:51:26.239 --> 00:51:27.719
I don't even think it was a week, but we

863
00:51:27.760 --> 00:51:29.880
went out there and there was a piece of pottery

864
00:51:30.679 --> 00:51:36.599
sitting on top of one of the toads, and there

865
00:51:36.679 --> 00:51:40.760
was nothing out all of those toats. We never opened them.

866
00:51:40.760 --> 00:51:44.159
We were exhausted after loading all that stuff out of

867
00:51:44.239 --> 00:51:49.199
the trailer and taking the trailer back, and I was like, man,

868
00:51:50.159 --> 00:51:52.400
did you see this mic there's a piece of pottery

869
00:51:52.400 --> 00:51:55.519
and it's pretty big size, it's probably five inches by

870
00:51:55.840 --> 00:51:59.280
three inches, and it was kind of jagged and stuff.

871
00:51:59.320 --> 00:52:03.639
And I was like, I wonder if the Bigfoot put

872
00:52:03.679 --> 00:52:06.920
this here. And I got a basket from Illinois and

873
00:52:07.000 --> 00:52:09.559
I hung it in a tree, and I'd already had

874
00:52:09.599 --> 00:52:13.199
a piece of cords in there and another rock because

875
00:52:13.719 --> 00:52:16.800
I kind of like rocks. And I put that pottery

876
00:52:16.800 --> 00:52:19.360
in this hanging basket and this hanging in a tree.

877
00:52:20.079 --> 00:52:22.840
And then then three or four days later, I'm like,

878
00:52:23.079 --> 00:52:25.559
we just figure out where that pottery came from a

879
00:52:25.599 --> 00:52:30.079
piece of pottery. And I was coming down the steps

880
00:52:30.159 --> 00:52:32.599
and I seen, you know, sometimes you don't get your

881
00:52:32.639 --> 00:52:37.400
plants in early in the wintertime and your pots will crack.

882
00:52:38.519 --> 00:52:41.320
And this pot had cracked all the way around it,

883
00:52:41.679 --> 00:52:44.760
and I'd even put a new flower on top of it,

884
00:52:45.679 --> 00:52:48.559
and I got to look it in that pot was

885
00:52:48.639 --> 00:52:51.519
the same piece. I went over to that basket and

886
00:52:51.559 --> 00:52:53.840
it was a piece of that pot. And there's no

887
00:52:53.960 --> 00:52:58.559
way the wind or anyone carried that piece of pottery

888
00:52:58.639 --> 00:53:00.320
and put it over there on those oats.

889
00:53:00.880 --> 00:53:04.000
And I've learned not to mess with the broken pots.

890
00:53:04.000 --> 00:53:05.880
If they're broken there, they might be there for a reason.

891
00:53:05.960 --> 00:53:08.960
Yeah, I use it. I guarantee I did the drainage

892
00:53:09.239 --> 00:53:11.599
in my pots if I break a pot or something.

893
00:53:12.000 --> 00:53:14.920
But this was this was all together. It was only

894
00:53:14.960 --> 00:53:18.239
missing that piece. And I was like, that's that design

895
00:53:18.320 --> 00:53:21.239
on that piece of pottery, and that I'm put in

896
00:53:21.239 --> 00:53:24.000
that basket that was on top of those totes. But

897
00:53:24.280 --> 00:53:28.239
also they didn't you when we got home from Illinois,

898
00:53:28.280 --> 00:53:30.760
didn't you go check the side of the house before

899
00:53:30.760 --> 00:53:35.000
we even went in the house or anything for footprints? Yes, yeah,

900
00:53:35.039 --> 00:53:39.599
because we'd been gone like fourteen days or something. Oh,

901
00:53:39.639 --> 00:53:42.760
and why we were in Illinois this happened. This is crazy.

902
00:53:45.519 --> 00:53:49.840
We rented an airbnb out the lake for our stay.

903
00:53:50.079 --> 00:53:52.480
And we actually call this a job, what we've been

904
00:53:52.519 --> 00:53:56.760
doing with my mom's old house and stuff. And I

905
00:53:56.840 --> 00:54:01.079
was laying in bed and I kept hearing these jugs

906
00:54:01.679 --> 00:54:06.440
balancing on the ground. And we hadn't I like to

907
00:54:06.480 --> 00:54:09.639
take our water with us from the house because I

908
00:54:09.679 --> 00:54:14.000
don't because we go a lot of places and I

909
00:54:14.000 --> 00:54:17.480
don't like to drink well water or anybody's water, really,

910
00:54:18.559 --> 00:54:22.559
And so we take this big orange cooler for just

911
00:54:22.639 --> 00:54:24.840
water and we fill it up. Well, we didn't take

912
00:54:24.880 --> 00:54:29.880
at that time, and uh, so we were buying these

913
00:54:29.920 --> 00:54:32.280
gallon jugs with the handle on them at the top

914
00:54:32.519 --> 00:54:37.239
from a dollar General and drinking that water with our

915
00:54:37.280 --> 00:54:41.159
coffee and stuff. And I'm laying in bed at this

916
00:54:41.320 --> 00:54:47.599
airbnb and I'm hearing plastic jugs, uh balancing all over

917
00:54:47.639 --> 00:54:51.400
the property right there by the bedroom. And it's got

918
00:54:51.400 --> 00:54:56.679
a big picture window that sticks out in sections. And

919
00:54:56.679 --> 00:55:00.960
and I woke Mike up and I said, uh, did

920
00:55:01.000 --> 00:55:03.559
you buy any chance to take any of those empty

921
00:55:04.559 --> 00:55:07.400
water jugs and not put them in the dumpster out there?

922
00:55:08.000 --> 00:55:10.199
And he said no, And I said, well, I keep

923
00:55:10.239 --> 00:55:15.000
hearing water jugs bouncing around. So I opened the curtain

924
00:55:16.159 --> 00:55:19.440
and we carried flashlights with us and instead turned the

925
00:55:19.519 --> 00:55:22.000
lights on. I opened the curtain and shined the flashlight

926
00:55:22.039 --> 00:55:24.840
out there, and I because I just heard like the

927
00:55:25.519 --> 00:55:29.199
gravel that they have in flour beds, I heard like

928
00:55:29.239 --> 00:55:35.320
something on that gravel, and okay, I just say forget it.

929
00:55:35.400 --> 00:55:38.480
And I'm still a waking. The next day or the

930
00:55:38.519 --> 00:55:43.360
following day, I'm outside because I smoke. I was outside,

931
00:55:43.440 --> 00:55:48.880
and I always it was so cold there that I

932
00:55:48.920 --> 00:55:53.440
couldn't even really smoke outside. I just wasn't smoking. And

933
00:55:53.840 --> 00:55:56.039
I went outside and I was sitting on this lower

934
00:55:56.119 --> 00:56:00.559
couch and when we first got there was nice Illinois,

935
00:56:01.039 --> 00:56:05.239
and so I was setting up higher on this table

936
00:56:05.239 --> 00:56:08.079
on chairs and I sat on that table on chairs

937
00:56:08.119 --> 00:56:11.199
when we were getting ready to leave, and I said,

938
00:56:11.679 --> 00:56:15.679
I laughened out here. They had like eight chairs that

939
00:56:15.880 --> 00:56:20.400
was around the pit and they're plastic and they were

940
00:56:20.480 --> 00:56:25.159
thrown all over the yard. And I said, Mike, come

941
00:56:25.199 --> 00:56:29.320
look at this. When did this happen? And He's like,

942
00:56:29.360 --> 00:56:31.880
I don't know. I thought you saw that already because

943
00:56:31.880 --> 00:56:34.079
I never said anything. But I was too low to

944
00:56:34.119 --> 00:56:37.159
see it because I was sitting on this lounge thing

945
00:56:38.480 --> 00:56:42.199
and I had went up the step and got up

946
00:56:42.239 --> 00:56:44.960
there where the table on chairs were, and I just

947
00:56:45.039 --> 00:56:48.599
couldn't believe my eyes that I believe was a sound

948
00:56:48.599 --> 00:56:54.760
that I was hearing of the plastic jugs going all

949
00:56:54.840 --> 00:57:00.519
over the place outside. So I don't know. I don't

950
00:57:00.519 --> 00:57:04.960
know if Bigfoot is just around me or I h sir.

951
00:57:05.559 --> 00:57:08.039
I think they are. Uh you didn't tell them about

952
00:57:08.039 --> 00:57:09.039
being screamed at?

953
00:57:09.440 --> 00:57:12.239
Oh? Yeah, years ago, yes, many years years ago. In

954
00:57:12.280 --> 00:57:15.239
two thousand and three, I was by the Mark Twain forrest.

955
00:57:15.800 --> 00:57:16.000
Oh.

956
00:57:16.079 --> 00:57:20.119
Well, that's all you have to say, seriously, like that

957
00:57:20.199 --> 00:57:21.840
place is wild and.

958
00:57:21.800 --> 00:57:24.840
Yeah, And I lived on the county line between Christian

959
00:57:25.000 --> 00:57:28.440
and Webster or Douglas, I don't know which one it was,

960
00:57:28.480 --> 00:57:32.440
but it's in Sparta, and I used the job to

961
00:57:32.519 --> 00:57:37.440
work at a restaurant. I had either at four thirty

962
00:57:37.480 --> 00:57:37.920
in the morning.

963
00:57:37.960 --> 00:57:40.320
What well, I was gonna say, I think they do.

964
00:57:40.480 --> 00:57:44.480
I think they do follow us. We were in southern

965
00:57:44.519 --> 00:57:47.960
Illinois to Shawnee Forest. I went down to the Lusk

966
00:57:48.119 --> 00:57:51.440
Creek and all I thought was it's a this is

967
00:57:51.480 --> 00:57:54.079
a really squatchy place, because the creek was so beautiful

968
00:57:54.079 --> 00:57:57.280
with the bluffs. Well, as I'm walking out, I heard

969
00:57:58.360 --> 00:58:01.719
that was all I thought. One as I was walking out,

970
00:58:01.760 --> 00:58:05.000
I hear the most perfect knock you could ever hear

971
00:58:05.840 --> 00:58:08.239
leaving and that's when I've had That's when I had

972
00:58:08.239 --> 00:58:15.000
my first voice, Mine speak.

973
00:58:14.840 --> 00:58:15.920
Yeah, mine speaking.

974
00:58:16.440 --> 00:58:18.079
I looked at it and I heard it, and I said, well,

975
00:58:18.079 --> 00:58:21.280
thank you for sharing your home with me, this beautiful place.

976
00:58:21.320 --> 00:58:25.920
And I basically I get thoughts more than more than

977
00:58:25.960 --> 00:58:28.000
I hear voice. But it was it was basically, well,

978
00:58:28.320 --> 00:58:30.840
as long as you honor you know, as long as

979
00:58:30.880 --> 00:58:34.400
you honor the place and the creator. And further up

980
00:58:34.400 --> 00:58:38.039
the trail, I actually tried to speak it and make

981
00:58:38.079 --> 00:58:40.800
a make a thought, and it was like I was

982
00:58:40.840 --> 00:58:44.800
talking to myself. Okay, but it was it was almost like,

983
00:58:44.920 --> 00:58:48.119
as I'm leaving a place, I thought that too. As

984
00:58:48.159 --> 00:58:51.800
I was spreading my dad's ashes. He was a trail

985
00:58:51.880 --> 00:58:55.119
maintainer and he had actually worked on that section of

986
00:58:55.159 --> 00:58:59.199
the trail and shelter and that was about twenty years

987
00:58:59.199 --> 00:59:02.519
after he would have would have been there, and I

988
00:59:02.599 --> 00:59:06.639
just thought, wonder if the tree falls were recognition of

989
00:59:06.639 --> 00:59:07.079
my father.

990
00:59:08.039 --> 00:59:10.679
That's wild and that Shawnee National Forest.

991
00:59:11.079 --> 00:59:13.320
Yeah, where the Garden of the Gods is.

992
00:59:14.360 --> 00:59:16.960
We're in Tennessee. But the knock was in Shawnee.

993
00:59:17.000 --> 00:59:20.880
Yes, Garden of the Gods. That area is extremely active.

994
00:59:20.960 --> 00:59:24.079
I mean that a ton of ton of stuff happens there.

995
00:59:24.119 --> 00:59:28.280
And also you were Jody, you were mentioning Mark Twain

996
00:59:28.880 --> 00:59:32.880
National Forest, and I'm sure, YEAHM Miguel has so many

997
00:59:33.039 --> 00:59:36.039
things out from down there, so you got screened in

998
00:59:36.039 --> 00:59:36.480
that area.

999
00:59:36.719 --> 00:59:40.239
Yeah. We had moved to a house this was in

1000
00:59:40.239 --> 00:59:44.880
two thousand and three, Uh, to renovate it. I did

1001
00:59:44.920 --> 00:59:49.199
a lot of renovating in my in my past time here.

1002
00:59:49.760 --> 00:59:53.800
And I moved to Sparta, Missouri. And my house was

1003
00:59:53.840 --> 00:59:57.199
sitting on the county line, which is the edge of

1004
00:59:57.199 --> 01:00:02.880
the Mark Twain Forest, Okay. And and I I was

1005
01:00:03.559 --> 01:00:05.519
I always got up at three thirty in the morning,

1006
01:00:05.559 --> 01:00:08.559
and I used to instead of waking everybody up at home,

1007
01:00:09.280 --> 01:00:11.320
I would go in the den and turn on the

1008
01:00:11.360 --> 01:00:14.960
news and get ready at my pool table and stuff.

1009
01:00:15.039 --> 01:00:16.480
And uh.

1010
01:00:17.159 --> 01:00:19.559
But before that, I would go to the restroom when

1011
01:00:19.559 --> 01:00:21.320
I first got up at three point thirty. And I

1012
01:00:21.360 --> 01:00:24.079
went into the restroom and we were redoing the bathroom

1013
01:00:24.880 --> 01:00:28.440
and there was just that tac paper on the walls

1014
01:00:28.920 --> 01:00:31.519
by the sliding glass door, and then the shower was

1015
01:00:31.559 --> 01:00:33.400
set up where the toilets at the end, you know.

1016
01:00:33.519 --> 01:00:36.119
And I sat down on the toilet and something I

1017
01:00:36.159 --> 01:00:41.199
heard walk two steps up on the patio sliding glass doors,

1018
01:00:41.280 --> 01:00:45.360
you know, those concrete steps. I heard two steps and

1019
01:00:45.440 --> 01:00:49.400
then a scream in my face and it was so

1020
01:00:50.199 --> 01:00:53.039
and the house is not down to the ground, it

1021
01:00:53.119 --> 01:00:55.840
had a foundation and stuff, so it was right here

1022
01:00:56.039 --> 01:00:59.320
on my left side of my face, and I just

1023
01:01:00.199 --> 01:01:02.920
didn't know what to do. I took off running when

1024
01:01:02.960 --> 01:01:05.239
I could. I really couldn't do anything, but for the

1025
01:01:05.280 --> 01:01:10.360
whole screen. I was sitting on the commode and with

1026
01:01:10.400 --> 01:01:13.000
my pants down, and I took off running with my

1027
01:01:13.079 --> 01:01:17.679
pants down. Wow, And I was like, oh my gosh.

1028
01:01:17.679 --> 01:01:20.280
And I went in the bedroom and I said, did

1029
01:01:20.320 --> 01:01:22.760
not anybody hear this? And they didn't wake up for

1030
01:01:22.880 --> 01:01:27.320
me to tell them what happened. And then I used

1031
01:01:27.320 --> 01:01:30.679
to always jog to work to leave the vehicle to

1032
01:01:30.719 --> 01:01:35.039
take my son to school, my youngest son, And that

1033
01:01:35.239 --> 01:01:41.480
morning I was like, no, I'm driving. But every morning

1034
01:01:41.519 --> 01:01:44.760
I would not every day, but every morning I did

1035
01:01:45.000 --> 01:01:49.079
jog to work. It was like maybe maybe half a

1036
01:01:49.119 --> 01:01:52.360
mile to maybe three quarters a mile to my job,

1037
01:01:53.119 --> 01:01:57.320
and the cows would be cackling and stuff. In the corners,

1038
01:01:57.800 --> 01:02:02.199
you know, and and uh horses and stuff raising cain

1039
01:02:02.440 --> 01:02:05.480
and I just, you know, I just thought I was

1040
01:02:05.519 --> 01:02:08.960
disturbing them, you know. But I think they were disturbed

1041
01:02:10.199 --> 01:02:11.239
way before.

1042
01:02:10.920 --> 01:02:11.679
I came along.

1043
01:02:12.239 --> 01:02:16.559
And I was wild, yeah, and that I never knew

1044
01:02:16.760 --> 01:02:21.960
anything about bigfoot when that happened. And I had heard

1045
01:02:22.079 --> 01:02:25.840
one story from a young kid like fourteen years old,

1046
01:02:26.360 --> 01:02:28.679
and he had seen a bigfoot walk up to a

1047
01:02:28.760 --> 01:02:31.880
tree looking at him and pull up. This was in

1048
01:02:32.199 --> 01:02:34.880
by the Mark Twain Forest or in the Mark Twain

1049
01:02:34.960 --> 01:02:38.679
Force probably where he lived. He pulled the branch off

1050
01:02:38.719 --> 01:02:42.840
the tree, a big branch and was looking at this kid,

1051
01:02:43.719 --> 01:02:47.480
and he told me about that. And then also, man,

1052
01:02:47.559 --> 01:02:50.199
this just so much has happened before I even knew

1053
01:02:50.199 --> 01:02:54.519
about bigfoot. Also, I was sitting in the back of

1054
01:02:54.519 --> 01:02:58.480
a pickup truck on the wheel well and was when

1055
01:02:58.519 --> 01:03:03.920
they had those flip phones for song. And I always

1056
01:03:03.960 --> 01:03:07.280
thought this was a bear that came up and stood

1057
01:03:07.519 --> 01:03:11.079
on the side of the truck and picked up their

1058
01:03:11.119 --> 01:03:13.800
trash barrew which are the ones on wheels, and put

1059
01:03:13.840 --> 01:03:16.000
it picked it up and put it down on its head,

1060
01:03:16.679 --> 01:03:20.079
and its head was so big and never said anything.

1061
01:03:21.039 --> 01:03:23.800
I jumped in the cab of the truck. The truck

1062
01:03:23.880 --> 01:03:27.519
was locked and the little window was open, and I

1063
01:03:27.559 --> 01:03:32.480
got in that truck and the neighbors that I was

1064
01:03:32.800 --> 01:03:38.239
staying with because my house had burnt down. I told

1065
01:03:38.239 --> 01:03:41.480
them the next day. They said, yeah, but this, uh,

1066
01:03:41.920 --> 01:03:44.760
this gun here is this pellet gun is for that

1067
01:03:44.880 --> 01:03:47.000
dog that keeps getting in the trash. And I said,

1068
01:03:47.039 --> 01:03:49.719
that's no dog. You're gonna need a bigger gun.

1069
01:03:50.360 --> 01:03:50.599
Wow.

1070
01:03:51.159 --> 01:03:53.280
And I thought it was a bear all this time.

1071
01:03:53.360 --> 01:03:57.199
But I don't think bears can do what what I

1072
01:03:57.280 --> 01:04:01.079
saw do pick up a trash can standing up, pick

1073
01:04:01.159 --> 01:04:03.199
up a trash can and pull it down on its

1074
01:04:03.199 --> 01:04:07.280
head like this. So and that's also the same place

1075
01:04:07.360 --> 01:04:11.079
the fourteen year old saw that big squash turned that

1076
01:04:11.159 --> 01:04:15.039
branch off looking at him like, Okay, you're next. But

1077
01:04:15.519 --> 01:04:17.760
that happened in two thousand and three.

1078
01:04:18.880 --> 01:04:22.840
So I'm I good some wild So I think I

1079
01:04:22.880 --> 01:04:27.400
agree with you. How you know, as we've seen through

1080
01:04:27.440 --> 01:04:31.039
this show, there are certain people where doesn't really matter

1081
01:04:31.079 --> 01:04:34.480
where they are, but they seem to either be open

1082
01:04:34.519 --> 01:04:41.159
to or to attract the weirdness and the strangeness that

1083
01:04:41.199 --> 01:04:43.559
can be Bigfoot related, that can be other related to

1084
01:04:43.800 --> 01:04:45.719
as you guys are kind of figuring out in this

1085
01:04:45.760 --> 01:04:49.239
Airbnb in Illinois. There's some weird stuff going on for

1086
01:04:49.360 --> 01:04:54.639
you guys, so sometimes people are it's kind of magnets

1087
01:04:54.639 --> 01:04:57.079
for stuff. But I wanted to make sure that I

1088
01:04:57.159 --> 01:05:01.400
asked you because your story so far is interesting from

1089
01:05:01.400 --> 01:05:04.519
what I've got, because you know, you're dealing with this

1090
01:05:04.559 --> 01:05:07.679
bigfoot stuff. But it's not like I bought this place

1091
01:05:07.760 --> 01:05:09.880
because I wanted to get in some big foot like. No,

1092
01:05:10.039 --> 01:05:11.800
you just bought the place and you have to deal

1093
01:05:11.840 --> 01:05:13.760
with it and it's just part of your life. So

1094
01:05:14.360 --> 01:05:18.400
how did you guys get all set up with going

1095
01:05:18.559 --> 01:05:22.400
to the Tennessee Crypto camp out? How does that play

1096
01:05:22.400 --> 01:05:23.039
into things?

1097
01:05:25.199 --> 01:05:31.440
Well, we watch we watch hell Bent. Oh yeah, we're members, and.

1098
01:05:33.039 --> 01:05:35.639
Let me see, Well we watch a lot of yet

1099
01:05:35.920 --> 01:05:38.480
watch Miguel half Inch.

1100
01:05:39.159 --> 01:05:44.159
Ye on you, I go to sleep with you.

1101
01:05:44.159 --> 01:05:45.920
You're not the only one. I hear that a lot.

1102
01:05:46.119 --> 01:05:48.159
You have a you have a very calming voice.

1103
01:05:48.280 --> 01:05:49.679
Yeah, thank you.

1104
01:05:49.719 --> 01:05:51.320
Sometimes I guess not so much.

1105
01:05:51.159 --> 01:05:55.360
But yeah, yeah.

1106
01:05:54.239 --> 01:05:56.199
But when it's a nice calm show, yeah, it's good

1107
01:05:56.199 --> 01:05:56.960
to fall asleep too.

1108
01:05:57.079 --> 01:06:00.639
Carrie is my favorite. My Carrie is my favorite. Years

1109
01:06:01.360 --> 01:06:06.079
and and David David is my favorite on Miguel's and

1110
01:06:06.119 --> 01:06:09.599
what happened French Crew, I just I just loved them

1111
01:06:09.639 --> 01:06:14.920
all and Helbent, Jesse and Joe. Yeah, they're just awesome.

1112
01:06:15.360 --> 01:06:17.559
So so we had a we had a chance, and

1113
01:06:17.599 --> 01:06:20.119
we thought we were going to be busy. But when

1114
01:06:20.239 --> 01:06:22.360
Jody found out that half inch Trench was going to

1115
01:06:22.440 --> 01:06:24.719
be there and you, it was like, oh, we have

1116
01:06:24.800 --> 01:06:28.079
to go. And luckily there happened to be a.

1117
01:06:28.119 --> 01:06:29.760
I didn't know who all was going to be there.

1118
01:06:29.840 --> 01:06:32.199
I just knew Hellbent was doing it and I'd like

1119
01:06:32.280 --> 01:06:38.519
to do it. And but I just I'm I'm real

1120
01:06:38.679 --> 01:06:42.159
nervous about stuff. And it's just like, I don't know

1121
01:06:42.199 --> 01:06:46.119
how many more times I can, you know, see and

1122
01:06:46.760 --> 01:06:52.400
here and put up with because it takes a I

1123
01:06:52.440 --> 01:06:54.559
guess I'm not special kind of person. I don't know,

1124
01:06:54.639 --> 01:07:01.480
but I just never imagined anything or or imagine seeing things.

1125
01:07:01.559 --> 01:07:07.559
I've never seen stuff like this before. It's just it's scary.

1126
01:07:08.920 --> 01:07:11.639
But yeah, I've learned a lot. I've learned a lot

1127
01:07:11.920 --> 01:07:17.400
more than I ever wanted to, really, but it messes

1128
01:07:17.480 --> 01:07:22.840
up your life. I don't know what how to explain that.

1129
01:07:23.039 --> 01:07:27.960
But I used to be more outgoing person and and

1130
01:07:28.119 --> 01:07:32.159
talk to people. I never met a stranger ever. And

1131
01:07:32.239 --> 01:07:35.239
now it's just like, you know, I need to keep

1132
01:07:35.280 --> 01:07:41.480
to myself. Hmm, that's fair, Yeah, I need to. I

1133
01:07:41.639 --> 01:07:44.840
just you know, I don't want I've always been a

1134
01:07:44.920 --> 01:07:49.519
little crazy, and I don't mean mental crazy, just crazy.

1135
01:07:50.199 --> 01:07:50.480
Sure.

1136
01:07:51.719 --> 01:07:56.679
Uh, I've done a lot. I've lived a lot of places,

1137
01:07:56.719 --> 01:08:02.559
but never anything like this, you know, seeing squatch and.

1138
01:08:03.400 --> 01:08:06.199
I can't imagine that. I just I can't imagine being

1139
01:08:06.280 --> 01:08:08.079
a place where I mean I haven't had a visual

1140
01:08:08.159 --> 01:08:10.880
yet at all, but I can't imagine a place where

1141
01:08:11.039 --> 01:08:15.880
you have multiple over years. Is it a regular occurrence

1142
01:08:15.960 --> 01:08:21.640
where you're seeing things show up that are not expected

1143
01:08:21.640 --> 01:08:24.319
to be there, kind of like how you were talking

1144
01:08:24.319 --> 01:08:26.119
about the pottery shard.

1145
01:08:28.760 --> 01:08:33.760
Yeah, A lot of time pass rocks. We just we

1146
01:08:33.800 --> 01:08:37.439
had a system put in and I took every rock

1147
01:08:37.520 --> 01:08:40.000
that came out of the ground and put it by

1148
01:08:40.399 --> 01:08:43.000
the spickett that we had put in so that we

1149
01:08:43.039 --> 01:08:46.119
would have some drainage there if we were running this

1150
01:08:46.159 --> 01:08:49.439
spicket and stuff. And just the other day I found,

1151
01:08:49.720 --> 01:08:54.520
which I know was not there was quarts a big

1152
01:08:54.520 --> 01:08:58.960
oak courts rock sitting in all those rocks that I

1153
01:08:59.119 --> 01:09:01.800
hand threw up there, picked them up and threw them

1154
01:09:01.880 --> 01:09:03.880
up to because I was down the hill a little

1155
01:09:03.880 --> 01:09:06.960
bit where they did the digging and stuff for the

1156
01:09:07.039 --> 01:09:10.960
tank to be put in for this mountain water. Yea,

1157
01:09:11.359 --> 01:09:14.079
so that we would we a couple of years we

1158
01:09:14.239 --> 01:09:18.520
lived off the reservoir until we got the system put

1159
01:09:18.560 --> 01:09:21.640
in where we could have it contained and brought into

1160
01:09:21.680 --> 01:09:24.760
the house, and a new pump system and stuff. But

1161
01:09:27.439 --> 01:09:31.680
I don't know, I've had a couple more things. I know,

1162
01:09:31.800 --> 01:09:37.399
I'm not covering everything. One morning. This is before, No,

1163
01:09:37.600 --> 01:09:40.520
this is after I saw the squatch. On December twenty

1164
01:09:40.640 --> 01:09:46.479
ninth of twenty two. We were going somewhere and we

1165
01:09:46.520 --> 01:09:48.880
always used to leave at like three thirty, four thirty

1166
01:09:48.920 --> 01:09:52.800
in the morning, and I was needing a cigarette. I

1167
01:09:52.840 --> 01:09:55.279
didn't have any cigarettes, and I said, oh, there's one

1168
01:09:55.359 --> 01:10:00.159
out in the the f one fifty. And so I

1169
01:10:00.239 --> 01:10:02.680
was going out there and everything was frozen, and I

1170
01:10:03.600 --> 01:10:06.560
pushed on the door and the key turned and stuff,

1171
01:10:06.600 --> 01:10:09.439
and I couldn't get in, and I hear mine speak,

1172
01:10:09.720 --> 01:10:15.720
you need help, and I answered back it was so clear,

1173
01:10:16.439 --> 01:10:19.000
and it had only been like ten feet from me,

1174
01:10:19.359 --> 01:10:22.960
You need help, And I said, no, I'm going back

1175
01:10:23.000 --> 01:10:25.279
in the house. I don't need to be doing this

1176
01:10:25.439 --> 01:10:27.399
right now. And I ran back in the house and

1177
01:10:27.479 --> 01:10:31.119
it was just like Mike's like, did you get your cigarette? No?

1178
01:10:32.239 --> 01:10:35.479
And I said, but I'm gonna try again. And I

1179
01:10:35.520 --> 01:10:39.960
went back out there and the door, the door, it

1180
01:10:40.039 --> 01:10:43.800
was still unlocked because I couldn't get it locked back

1181
01:10:43.840 --> 01:10:47.520
once I got unlocked by key, you know. And it's

1182
01:10:47.560 --> 01:10:51.199
an old F one fifty eighty nine, I mean ninety eight.

1183
01:10:51.600 --> 01:10:55.399
And I go out there and all the ice around

1184
01:10:55.439 --> 01:11:03.039
the door was melted and the door open open. Oh really, yeah,

1185
01:11:03.119 --> 01:11:05.159
it was even it was maybe thirty minutes.

1186
01:11:07.159 --> 01:11:12.039
Yeah, my favorite mind speak Do you have a question?

1187
01:11:12.760 --> 01:11:14.920
No, I'm just I'm kind of blown away by that.

1188
01:11:14.920 --> 01:11:19.359
That's weird. You need right ahead, that's a weird one.

1189
01:11:20.359 --> 01:11:20.600
Yeah.

1190
01:11:21.359 --> 01:11:24.479
I was hiking in our local state park with my

1191
01:11:24.560 --> 01:11:29.359
friends and I just heard an odd shifted noise off

1192
01:11:29.399 --> 01:11:33.479
to the side, and I was checking the the Avenza

1193
01:11:33.600 --> 01:11:35.560
maps for some reason. I was looking at a trail

1194
01:11:37.079 --> 01:11:40.760
and I acknowledged it. I forget what I said, and

1195
01:11:40.840 --> 01:11:46.319
I heard the thought very clearly and amusedly use silly

1196
01:11:46.439 --> 01:11:51.199
humans needing your maps and your technology. And it was

1197
01:11:51.239 --> 01:11:55.479
a very clear, odd thought, and I could tell it

1198
01:11:55.520 --> 01:11:57.600
was amused. You know, it wasn't trying to be insulting.

1199
01:11:57.640 --> 01:12:00.239
It was just like you silly humans needing need to

1200
01:12:00.239 --> 01:12:01.560
look at your phone in the woods.

1201
01:12:02.640 --> 01:12:05.960
Yeah, that's wild. I mean, that's weird, weird stuff. It's

1202
01:12:06.319 --> 01:12:10.279
one of the main things I took away from visiting

1203
01:12:10.279 --> 01:12:16.159
Tennessee was that it is just as strange as the

1204
01:12:16.199 --> 01:12:18.880
stories that you hear about it, and probably even more

1205
01:12:18.920 --> 01:12:24.319
strange it is. It is a wild, wild place. And yeah,

1206
01:12:24.359 --> 01:12:28.479
you guys being I mean it's really I don't think

1207
01:12:28.479 --> 01:12:31.640
it matters if you're in Middle Tennessee or East Tennessee.

1208
01:12:31.800 --> 01:12:36.399
I mean, each one is pretty weird as I found out.

1209
01:12:36.439 --> 01:12:41.319
But guys, it has been a really fun conversation and

1210
01:12:41.439 --> 01:12:46.520
it's I wasn't even aware that this is stuff that's

1211
01:12:46.560 --> 01:12:48.920
still going on today. I mean, as you said, this

1212
01:12:49.079 --> 01:12:51.239
is like within the last few weeks, you have stuff

1213
01:12:51.279 --> 01:12:51.640
going on.

1214
01:12:52.239 --> 01:12:54.880
Stuff after the camp and then Friday, Yes.

1215
01:12:55.000 --> 01:12:59.399
Yes, we had we had a storm just just a

1216
01:12:59.399 --> 01:13:02.359
week and a half go. Yeah, it was one of

1217
01:13:02.399 --> 01:13:06.039
our rare lightning storms. And Jody was asleep. It's odd

1218
01:13:06.079 --> 01:13:08.239
how often we hear things when the other one's asleep.

1219
01:13:11.520 --> 01:13:13.199
Sleep I'm awake.

1220
01:13:14.439 --> 01:13:16.680
It was just a good heavy rainstorm, and I thought

1221
01:13:16.680 --> 01:13:18.720
I heard car tires coming up a road, which is

1222
01:13:18.760 --> 01:13:22.439
why we're so immuta traffic. And I realized, no, that's

1223
01:13:22.479 --> 01:13:26.640
not it. It sounded like something I have no idea,

1224
01:13:27.560 --> 01:13:30.520
but after I heard it, Selena, it sound like came

1225
01:13:30.560 --> 01:13:35.960
past our window. There was a clunk, and then a

1226
01:13:36.079 --> 01:13:40.079
swoofed in front. There was a small peel of thunder

1227
01:13:40.720 --> 01:13:45.359
and our male small dog who has a has a

1228
01:13:45.399 --> 01:13:48.439
way of barking under the covers, who have a very

1229
01:13:48.840 --> 01:13:52.479
scared when he's scared. Yes, you, he has a he

1230
01:13:52.560 --> 01:13:55.760
has a very distinct bark. Well, he barked for almost

1231
01:13:55.840 --> 01:14:00.079
a minute like that after I heard that swoosh. I

1232
01:14:00.119 --> 01:14:04.399
have no idea what came past our window, but he

1233
01:14:04.359 --> 01:14:07.920
heard it taking the noise, but he heard it. And

1234
01:14:08.039 --> 01:14:10.319
after that, even if we had a couple of direct

1235
01:14:10.359 --> 01:14:12.960
lightning strikes, he would only bark once or twice.

1236
01:14:13.000 --> 01:14:16.319
I forgot to tell him about the squatch by the window.

1237
01:14:17.119 --> 01:14:23.119
Oh yeah, yeah, okay, Well our TV. We only have

1238
01:14:23.319 --> 01:14:25.720
one window on the back of our house and it's

1239
01:14:26.159 --> 01:14:29.000
in the living room that and the TV is right

1240
01:14:29.039 --> 01:14:32.560
by it. And I sat on this couch that's horizontally

1241
01:14:33.800 --> 01:14:37.960
by the window. And I, oh, and also there's more.

1242
01:14:38.239 --> 01:14:43.039
There's a swarm Jeremiah. That just brings up more. But anyways,

1243
01:14:43.079 --> 01:14:44.840
I set up on the couch and I'm just sitting

1244
01:14:44.880 --> 01:14:46.680
there and something on the corner of my eye. I

1245
01:14:46.760 --> 01:14:52.760
look and there's the same color squatch. That is all

1246
01:14:52.800 --> 01:14:55.960
I see. Is he's right by the deck, which is

1247
01:14:56.000 --> 01:15:00.520
not even fifteen foot from where I'm sitting. He's there

1248
01:15:00.600 --> 01:15:05.119
and and he this is weird, if not anything else

1249
01:15:05.239 --> 01:15:10.439
was weird. But anyways, he's walking away. He takes three steps,

1250
01:15:11.000 --> 01:15:17.960
this humongous thing squatch, and he disappears, and there's nothing.

1251
01:15:18.560 --> 01:15:20.279
I was thinking he was gonna go up the hill

1252
01:15:21.119 --> 01:15:24.720
and he's He's by this time, maybe fifteen or twenty

1253
01:15:24.760 --> 01:15:30.560
feet from me, and he disappears, and there is no dissipating.

1254
01:15:31.800 --> 01:15:35.239
I didn't see it disappear. It just wasn't there anymore.

1255
01:15:36.760 --> 01:15:40.640
Oh wow, that changes everything. I mean, that's a whole

1256
01:15:40.640 --> 01:15:41.720
different Oh.

1257
01:15:41.800 --> 01:15:43.760
I couldn't believe it. I was waiting for him to

1258
01:15:43.760 --> 01:15:46.520
go up into the woods right there, about twenty five

1259
01:15:46.560 --> 01:15:50.760
feet from the window, and I waited, that's where he's

1260
01:15:50.800 --> 01:15:53.399
walking to. And he took like three steps he was

1261
01:15:53.479 --> 01:15:59.199
standing by the deck banister, and our deck's only like

1262
01:15:59.319 --> 01:16:02.079
ten by weve or something back there, No ten by

1263
01:16:02.119 --> 01:16:06.760
twenty maybe. Anyways, he was standing there. He just turned around,

1264
01:16:06.800 --> 01:16:10.880
I guess because we say they watched TV at our house. Sure,

1265
01:16:10.960 --> 01:16:16.000
because a lot happens about the TV. And I see

1266
01:16:16.039 --> 01:16:17.600
that in the corner of my eye. I turned my

1267
01:16:17.680 --> 01:16:23.000
head and he's right there, big big shoulders of the

1268
01:16:23.279 --> 01:16:28.239
blonder cinnamon color one. And I see his shoulder blades

1269
01:16:28.279 --> 01:16:31.359
and they look like lungs instead of shoulder blades. They're

1270
01:16:31.399 --> 01:16:35.520
just like this, They're they're huge, and I'm watching take

1271
01:16:35.800 --> 01:16:38.760
two steps and I know he'd probably taken one already

1272
01:16:39.079 --> 01:16:42.239
for me to catch it. And he just disappears.

1273
01:16:43.239 --> 01:16:46.079
Oh man, that's weird. That makes you wonder. Okay, so

1274
01:16:46.239 --> 01:16:49.439
do you do you have bigfoot that are just disappearing

1275
01:16:49.560 --> 01:16:53.319
or do you have maybe actual portals in your area too?

1276
01:16:53.359 --> 01:16:55.199
And that's one of those questions It's like, I don't

1277
01:16:55.239 --> 01:16:56.800
even know if you can answer.

1278
01:16:56.880 --> 01:17:02.800
I mean, well, I think we do daycare center, because

1279
01:17:02.800 --> 01:17:05.319
they're not bringing their kids to the daycare center.

1280
01:17:05.560 --> 01:17:08.640
Yeah. I suspect the sushi noise and and some of

1281
01:17:08.640 --> 01:17:11.760
the booms we hear I suspect portals were constantly.

1282
01:17:12.359 --> 01:17:17.760
Yeah, we're constantly hearing metal metal I mean like like

1283
01:17:17.800 --> 01:17:22.000
a gong almost, But it doesn't sound like the gong.

1284
01:17:22.840 --> 01:17:25.439
It sounds like a metal like a gong like that,

1285
01:17:26.520 --> 01:17:29.760
and it's loud, and we both look at each other.

1286
01:17:29.880 --> 01:17:32.039
We quit even saying did you hear that? Because we

1287
01:17:32.159 --> 01:17:36.600
just look at each other and it's day and night.

1288
01:17:36.840 --> 01:17:40.319
It's uh, the gonging is more in the daytime, yeah,

1289
01:17:40.800 --> 01:17:43.119
than at night. I thought maybe we lived on top

1290
01:17:43.159 --> 01:17:44.000
of the cave.

1291
01:17:45.279 --> 01:17:48.560
Oh sure, yeah, or maybe there's underground work being done,

1292
01:17:48.560 --> 01:17:51.319
but it doesn't really sound like that goes on in

1293
01:17:51.359 --> 01:17:51.920
that area.

1294
01:17:52.479 --> 01:17:55.800
No, we thought that, uh, that's what was happening when

1295
01:17:55.840 --> 01:17:58.399
we were here in the booms and stuff. But these

1296
01:17:58.439 --> 01:18:02.560
aren't even booms. They're like they're like metal weight, I say,

1297
01:18:02.680 --> 01:18:07.159
like sheets in the wind. That is like whoa like that?

1298
01:18:08.920 --> 01:18:12.960
Uh, you guys aren't hearing your voices called out of

1299
01:18:13.000 --> 01:18:14.680
the woods or anything like that, right.

1300
01:18:15.640 --> 01:18:18.199
I did clean the car out, but I turned on

1301
01:18:18.239 --> 01:18:20.359
the stereo. I didn't hear them call my name.

1302
01:18:20.520 --> 01:18:25.880
No, no, no mimicking going on. That's good.

1303
01:18:26.199 --> 01:18:30.319
That's when it it freaks me out a lot. Not

1304
01:18:30.359 --> 01:18:34.279
that I've had that happen. But just when you hear

1305
01:18:34.359 --> 01:18:36.760
people like they're out in the woods and they hear

1306
01:18:36.880 --> 01:18:40.680
something say their name, like come here. Although I did

1307
01:18:40.680 --> 01:18:43.600
have something say come here to me, and at the

1308
01:18:43.640 --> 01:18:45.239
camp out, didn't. I that's weird.

1309
01:18:47.079 --> 01:18:55.319
I smell at the camp out, I smell roadkill and

1310
01:18:55.600 --> 01:18:58.880
in the corner of our cabin. Oh, and it just

1311
01:18:58.920 --> 01:19:02.479
it went away, came and went that fast. And plus

1312
01:19:03.079 --> 01:19:06.399
I was without him down there. Uh, you all were

1313
01:19:06.439 --> 01:19:09.039
in the woods and I was with at him down there.

1314
01:19:10.079 --> 01:19:14.279
Why he was like a station. And I heard the dogs.

1315
01:19:14.760 --> 01:19:17.880
I told ad him. I said, once we tell our

1316
01:19:17.920 --> 01:19:19.760
dogs to go to bed, they go to bed.

1317
01:19:20.359 --> 01:19:28.039
Well, what I'm just gonna say, speaking of smelling, smelling.

1318
01:19:29.079 --> 01:19:31.920
Oh my gosh. See if there's just so much spat

1319
01:19:32.039 --> 01:19:37.960
down too. We were in bed. Well anyways, I the dogs.

1320
01:19:38.239 --> 01:19:41.680
It was really strange. And it was only one time.

1321
01:19:42.079 --> 01:19:46.399
But it was early evening. It was not an afternoon.

1322
01:19:46.439 --> 01:19:49.119
We were. We were in bed. So we go to

1323
01:19:49.119 --> 01:19:51.760
bed early. Well, you have to if you can get

1324
01:19:51.760 --> 01:19:58.479
a sleep. But anyways, uh, I was laying in bed.

1325
01:19:58.800 --> 01:20:02.439
I guess I couldn't hear see and smell really good.

1326
01:20:02.560 --> 01:20:05.720
I mean, anyways, I was like, oh my god. And

1327
01:20:05.760 --> 01:20:09.479
I start smelling my pillows and my blankets and stuff,

1328
01:20:09.520 --> 01:20:11.680
and I said, Mike, do you smell that. It's just

1329
01:20:11.800 --> 01:20:15.640
terrible smells like BO, really bad and I don't know

1330
01:20:16.159 --> 01:20:19.199
if it's anything else but BO. And I gotta find it.

1331
01:20:19.239 --> 01:20:21.159
And he's like, oh, yeah, I do smell it.

1332
01:20:21.199 --> 01:20:23.000
Yeah. It took a second. I was like first, I

1333
01:20:23.039 --> 01:20:26.600
was like no, then then oh yeah, there it is for.

1334
01:20:26.560 --> 01:20:30.479
A while, like minutes of smelling that, and then then

1335
01:20:30.520 --> 01:20:32.039
it went away and it came back.

1336
01:20:33.199 --> 01:20:38.399
It was It wasn't even your typical garbage or skunk

1337
01:20:38.479 --> 01:20:41.760
or death smell. It was like it was like human

1338
01:20:41.960 --> 01:20:46.039
body odor that you as strong as you can imagine,

1339
01:20:46.079 --> 01:20:47.680
and it was just in the air.

1340
01:20:47.920 --> 01:20:51.279
And I sleep. I gotta have my windows open it

1341
01:20:50.920 --> 01:20:54.720
even dead of wimmer. I have my bedroom window open,

1342
01:20:54.800 --> 01:20:57.880
but I only open the top and only halfway. I

1343
01:20:57.920 --> 01:21:00.479
don't open the bottom because of what's been going on.

1344
01:21:00.560 --> 01:21:04.319
But easily they could reach in and and do something

1345
01:21:04.359 --> 01:21:07.920
if they want, for sure, I mean, if they're that tall.

1346
01:21:08.000 --> 01:21:12.680
But this smell was something else, and I'm really particular

1347
01:21:12.680 --> 01:21:15.119
about stuff like that. I was just like, oh man,

1348
01:21:15.880 --> 01:21:18.800
you gotta smell that. And I was smelling everything in

1349
01:21:18.800 --> 01:21:22.399
my room and it was coming through the windows.

1350
01:21:24.359 --> 01:21:27.199
Oh that's wild. That is while you guys live in

1351
01:21:27.520 --> 01:21:30.520
such a wild area, I cannot imagine having to just

1352
01:21:30.600 --> 01:21:34.079
deal with that day to day. I'm so I'm so

1353
01:21:34.199 --> 01:21:38.279
glad that we were able to get this to happen

1354
01:21:38.880 --> 01:21:40.800
with both of you on here, because I think having

1355
01:21:40.800 --> 01:21:44.880
you both here really makes for an awesome conversation, to

1356
01:21:44.960 --> 01:21:49.840
be honest. Yeah, thank you so much for coming on

1357
01:21:50.039 --> 01:21:55.159
the show. Uh, it was a pleasure meeting both Yeah. Yeah, Tennessee.

1358
01:21:55.560 --> 01:21:56.239
That was cool.

1359
01:21:56.840 --> 01:21:58.520
Tennessee camp ount was awesome.

1360
01:21:59.000 --> 01:22:03.520
That's right, Y a Tennessee cryptic camp out was It's

1361
01:22:03.560 --> 01:22:05.720
probably what man, it was one of those once in

1362
01:22:05.720 --> 01:22:07.279
a lifetime experiences.

1363
01:22:07.399 --> 01:22:10.119
It was, well it happens again.

1364
01:22:10.720 --> 01:22:12.600
I hope so too. It is lightning in a bottle.

1365
01:22:12.680 --> 01:22:15.000
I mean it was. It was really really cool.

1366
01:22:15.319 --> 01:22:18.520
It was and everybody there, it was just everybody worked

1367
01:22:18.560 --> 01:22:24.119
together and it's like we were prepared for what, you know,

1368
01:22:25.039 --> 01:22:28.720
but everybody came prepared and we got plenty of stuff happened,

1369
01:22:29.800 --> 01:22:32.439
and you know, it was just really nice. And I

1370
01:22:32.479 --> 01:22:38.439
know there's going to be another one. So Randy, Randy

1371
01:22:38.479 --> 01:22:42.680
and all the whole crew Houston. I don't know all

1372
01:22:42.720 --> 01:22:45.680
their names. I'm not good with names. I used to

1373
01:22:45.720 --> 01:22:49.399
be good at a lot of stuff, but anymore. I

1374
01:22:49.479 --> 01:22:52.239
wanted to tell you that this bigfoot thing has changed

1375
01:22:52.279 --> 01:22:57.720
my life, and I know it changed his from have

1376
01:22:57.880 --> 01:23:01.600
to deal with me because what is happening? And then

1377
01:23:01.640 --> 01:23:06.439
he starts. You know, I really felt like nobody, they

1378
01:23:06.560 --> 01:23:09.159
really really think I'm crazy now. You know, if I

1379
01:23:09.319 --> 01:23:13.960
wasn't crazy before, I'm really crazy now, seeing stuff, hearing stuff,

1380
01:23:14.359 --> 01:23:20.479
experiencing stuff, and there's more. Jeremiah, It's like a couple

1381
01:23:20.520 --> 01:23:23.840
of days, there won't be anything happen, and I'll get

1382
01:23:23.840 --> 01:23:27.199
some sleep, maybe, but then it'll go on for three

1383
01:23:27.319 --> 01:23:31.239
or four days, maybe longer, and then there'll be a break.

1384
01:23:32.479 --> 01:23:34.800
Do you keep a journal of what happens?

1385
01:23:35.520 --> 01:23:38.319
Well, no, but I write a lot, and I'm going

1386
01:23:38.399 --> 01:23:39.319
to start writing it.

1387
01:23:39.680 --> 01:23:44.399
I would recommend. That's advice I got from a good friend.

1388
01:23:44.560 --> 01:23:47.560
His name is Tobe Johnson out in Oregon or Washington

1389
01:23:47.600 --> 01:23:52.760
now who is He's an experiencer author, and he's like,

1390
01:23:52.880 --> 01:23:54.880
if you've got stuff going on, you need to write

1391
01:23:54.880 --> 01:23:58.439
it down so you'll forget it in the future and

1392
01:23:58.520 --> 01:24:03.319
you can figure out things that are connected by rereading

1393
01:24:03.319 --> 01:24:06.600
it over. I would recommend any listener to do that. Actually,

1394
01:24:06.640 --> 01:24:10.159
if you're experiencing stuff like Jody and Michael lar, just

1395
01:24:11.319 --> 01:24:13.720
keep keep a journal so you can figure it out.

1396
01:24:13.800 --> 01:24:17.000
But guys, I think that we will definitely need to

1397
01:24:17.039 --> 01:24:21.159
keep in touch. It's it's definitely an active, ongoing thing

1398
01:24:21.399 --> 01:24:24.560
and so definitely definitely feel free to keep in touch.

1399
01:24:24.600 --> 01:24:28.039
You got my email, and maybe we'll we'll have to

1400
01:24:28.680 --> 01:24:31.560
We'll have to do a catch up later or in

1401
01:24:31.680 --> 01:24:35.039
the future down the road. That would be fun.

1402
01:24:35.199 --> 01:24:36.600
So sounds good.

1403
01:24:36.640 --> 01:24:39.199
Yeah, yeah, well, thank you very much.

1404
01:24:40.279 --> 01:24:43.239
Have you ever heard all the accounts of bigfoot activity

1405
01:24:43.319 --> 01:24:46.479
around Oakridge, Oregon? And you think to yourself, Man, I

1406
01:24:46.560 --> 01:24:49.439
would love to get out in those woods and experience

1407
01:24:49.439 --> 01:24:53.960
it for myself. Well, guess what this year you can.

1408
01:24:54.640 --> 01:24:57.600
If this is interesting to you, stay tuned because it's

1409
01:24:57.640 --> 01:25:02.840
pretty cool. Sasquatch Summery is coming up July tenth through

1410
01:25:02.840 --> 01:25:07.000
the eleventh, twenty twenty six. It's gonna be even better

1411
01:25:07.119 --> 01:25:10.680
than the previous year's. Reason number one, I'll be one

1412
01:25:10.680 --> 01:25:15.039
of the speakers. It's gonna be wild. I'll probably I'll

1413
01:25:15.079 --> 01:25:19.800
say this. There may be stuff you haven't heard anywhere else,

1414
01:25:20.000 --> 01:25:25.560
because let's just say, sometimes it's well, you just got

1415
01:25:25.600 --> 01:25:27.960
to be there. We'll leave it that more about looking

1416
01:25:27.960 --> 01:25:30.479
for Bigfoot in the Oakridge Woods. Now check this out.

1417
01:25:31.159 --> 01:25:36.439
You may know Jason Kenzie from his documentary series Searching

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for Sasquatch. Well, this year you can not only go

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to the festival, but you can also sign up for

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a track deep in the wild forest outside of Oakridge

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with Jason Kenzie to the Bigfoot Spots to look for Bigfoot.

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There's only eight spots to sign up for the and yes,

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this will also be filmed for the next chapter in

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his documentary series, which is Searching for Sasquatch. This is

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a once in a lifetime deal. It's just trust it's

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going to be a wild, wild experience. To get a ticket,

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head on over to Sasquatch Summerfest dot com and listeners

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can use the code b sp like Bigfoot Society podcast

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in order to get a two day pass for the

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price of a one day pass. So thanks to Priscilla

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for giving me that code so that you guys can

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can get a little a little help with the costs there.

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Appreciate that, Priscilla. I hope to see you at the

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booth in Oakridge. This year we can talk about your encounter.

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Was able to talk to so many people last year

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and the year before. It is an incredible time. You're

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not going to want to miss it, and I'll see

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you there. Before we wrap this episode, I want to

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say something directly to a very specific group of listeners.

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If you're in the military, any branch or forces, and

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if you've seen something that no one can explain, or

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if you're a National park ranger or forestry worker who's

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been told to stay quiet, or if you're a pilot

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who's seen something strange down on the ground, or if

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you're with the FBI a federal agency, or working intelligence

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and you've stumbled upon something you're not allowed to talk about.

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And if you're a firefighter, paramedic, or search and rescue

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responder who's heard screams or found tracks that didn't make sense.

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If you're in the logging industry on a remote oil field,

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or a trucker with government contracts and you've had something

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happen that you've never told a soul. And if you're

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a biologist, a wildlife specialist, or a field researcher under

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contract who has found evidence you're not allowed to report.

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If you're a pastor, a missionary, or someone on a

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spiritual retreat and you saw something that shook your faith,

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or if you work in the shadows CIA, NSA or

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anything with clearance and you've seen what the public hasn't,

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then I want to talk to you, even if it's anonymous.

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You can reach me at Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com.

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The world needs to hear what you've been forced to

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carry alone, and you're not alone. You've got the story,

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We've got the mic. See you in the woods. Thank

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you for listening to this episode of the Bigfoot Society podcast.

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Every encounter we share reminds us that the world is

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bigger and stranger than we think, and that the truth

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is often hiding just beyond the tree line. If you

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enjoyed this episode, please be sure to subscribe to the

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the next episode, and share this with a friend who's

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into mysteries, monsters, or the unexplained. And if you're listening

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to us on Spotify or Apple podcast, please follow the

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because all that helps more people discover the show. And remember,

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if you or someone you know has had a Bigfoot sighting,

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please I'd love to hear from you, so email me

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at Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com and let's start

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the conversation. If you haven't gotten a chance yet, check

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out our membership community over at www dot Bigfoot Society

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podcast dot com and that's where you can hear tomorrow's

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episode today early in ad free and members only episodes

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every week. Also, it's a place to connect with other

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people that are into the Bigfoot subject as much as

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you are. Thanks again for following along with the Bigfoot

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Society until next time, Keep your eyes open, trust your gut,

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and never stop asking what else might be out there?

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And see you in the woods.