Forager Encounters Giant Squatting Figure in the Hamma Hamma River | Washington

0:00 You're listening to Bigflet Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron. In this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to bring you first hand encounters from people who say they've seen something impossible. From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers to quiet farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere, and each one leaves us with more questions than answers. These are the voices of the people who've lived it. To settle in, because today you'll hear another account that just might change the way you see the woods forever. So stay with us, all right, Pickflet Society. You've got the privilege of talking to Angel today. Angel is a listener from the Pacific Northwest on the YouTube side there, and she's got some interesting things to share from her time out there in the Pacific Northwest while she is out forging, rock hounting, hiking and doing all those great things.

0:52 But welcome to the show, Angel, How are you doing today? I'm doing good, Excited to talk Bigfoot and just yeah, your perspective on some of my experiences too. Absolutely. Let me start out by asking you a question. Are you a lifelong Oregon native or did you end up moving out there? So I was born and raised in Washington State, in eastern Washington, but I've lived in eastern Washington, western Washington, Oregon coast, and just traveled all over. So I consider all of it my home.

1:32 Fantastic and growing up out there. Has Bigfoot kind of been in the background all through growing up or did it kick in at a certain point in your life. I think it's so ingrained in our culture here in the Pacific Northwest. You see it everywhere, like bigfoot crossing signs all over the place, wood carvings, and I think for a long time like it was just in my mind. It's like a running joke. When you tell people you're from Washington, they're like, oh, cool, Bigfoot. So for me it was just, oh, it's just this thing that exists, and it's like a just funny thing. It wasn't really until I got a little bit older and I started to have some of my own experiences that I was like, wait a second, this might actually be real.

2:23 Feel free to take us back to the first point where things started getting real for you on the big foot side, when you started to realize, hey, there's actually some things going on here. Yeah. So my first experience happened in Deer Island, Oregon. I was living and working on a like all natural organic farm. The farm actually had three separate properties, and the one that I lived on was about one hundred acres, so pretty big piece of land. And that land was split up into gosh, several different parcels with different fields that we would rotate all the animals through. And I originally had started living there in about twenty fifteen, and I had left and came back and decided I wanted to do it again. Just loved being out there, loved the lack connection with nature. And so I'm living on this farm and it's one giant house with a big wraparound porch. It was just the most picturesque type of house that you could imagine, and like I said, surrounded by wildlife. We had a barn with stabled horses and goats and sheeps and chickens and ducks and just the whole thing. So one night, around midnight, we were sitting outside this wrap around porch and we're on the back and I started to hear some kind of like what

3:55 I thought was cougar noises, but honestly really as much as I've been in the woods, I've never heard or seen a cougar. So I was like, is that what I think it is? So I got inside and I grabbed my partner at the time, and I'm like, hey, we should go and check this out. This sounds weird, And so we drove around to see if there was anything around, if we could scare it off, and we didn't see anything. There was absolutely nothing. The animals were fine, they were chilling, and they were all accounted for. The one thing I thought was weird was the horses. They were pretty spooked, and the rest of the animals they were fine. That the horses, they're very emotionally intelligent animals, so that definitely kind of gave me a red flag.

4:48 But we didn't see nothing. So we just went back home. We went to bed and thought nothing of it. And the next morning we went to open up the farm and feed all the animals his breakfast, and we noticed we had about seven or eight baby lambs missing, and we were just like, where could they have gone? Maybe they got scared. So we looked everywhere, and one hundred acres is quite a bit of land to look. This isn't all clear cut. There's woods and creeks and stuff throughout this property. So it took us quite a while to go through the property, and we contacted the neighbors and searched on their property as well, think it maybe maybe they just got spooked and ran away, But we found nothing, and my boss actually at the time was real freaked out. So we called Fish and Wildlife and had them come out and check for signs of predation.

5:51 Maybe it was a bear, cougar, And so they came out and they looked. I walked them all across the property line and there's just absolutely nothing. There was no signs of struggle, no footprints, no blood, no hair, no just nothing. No holes in the fence, and so we're just stumped. The Fish and Wildlife guy, he just said, man, this is crazy. Even if it were a cougar or a bear, like, there's no way that they could have taken this many animals and there'd be no sign of struggle. It just doesn't make sense. And so my boss actually thought like maybe somebody came out and played cougar music or cute cougar noises and that maybe it was somebody had just stolen animals, and I was like, there's no way we're in the middle of nowhere unless somebody really knew that these animals were there. So we're just stumped, and we just decided, all right, we'll keep looking and go from there. Then a couple days later we noticed that right next to our house there was this garden bud and it was overgrown probably years had been sitting there, so it was basically just overgrown, dried up mud and clay basically, so it was hard and right at the entrance of the garden. I sent you the picture I

7:22 think you saw. It was a perfectly shaped X with two sticks just jammed into there. In fact, it was so hard that the ground was so hard that I tried to get it up, and it took me a while to get it out of the ground because it was in there. And so that really freaked me out, and I went and talked to my boss and that's when she was like, that is a bigfoot thing, And so that's where the rabbit hole started. It's extremely weird. I definitely have a few questions for you about this first story. Can you explain actually I want to start here first, Deer Island, I'm looking at on a map. It's not actually an island that you're on.

8:12 It's just the name of a town, right, It's. Just the name of a town. It's actually about fifteen miles away from Rainier, Oregon, which I know you've done several videos. In fact, I went and looked on the map to try to find some of the places that you've been talking about, and in fact they're pretty close. Absolutely. And the thing is that the area that I have talked to the gentlemen about Rainier is south a little bit of Verner up in the hills, I believe, so that makes it even closer to Deer Island, and there's other things going on in those hills that really these are things that I've been told offline, but I can say there's other things going on in this area of I would say ver near Deer Island over the Vernonia Mist has been brought up before. There was a researcher named Henry Franzoni that it was his thinking that there was a lot of underground activity with Bigfoot and other things over in the Mist area, which is west that forest there. So there's definitely some things going on in this area by the Columbia River. Now you said that you said that there was some interesting cougar noises going on. Can you explain the type of noises you heard, because there's many different sounds that a cougar can make.

9:43 I think what I have first originally heard sounded like the noises of they say cougar makes a baby noise, like a baby crying kind of noise. So that was the first noise that I heard. But then after after I heard that noise because it freaked me out, I was like, what is that. I'd never heard that before, and so I had gone inside and was like, hey, it sounds like a baby crying like outside, and my partner was like, oh, that's a cougar, And so I had him come outside with me and we listened, and it turned from that cry to more of like a growl, but it was very deep, and so I was freaked out because we were on the porch and you really couldn't see from beyond the porch maybe but five feet, and it was just pitch black, and so I was like, all right, let's go, let's get in the car, let's let's get our gun. I don't feel safe just being right here.

10:48 I don't blame you, and probably from your research. You've also found that baby crying noises or baby cries, that's the thing that's also reported with some bigfoot encounters as well, especially out there in the Pacific Northwest and southeast Alaska as well. A lot of people will say I heard I started to hear these baby cry noises. Sometimes it's almost like people are getting lured into the woods things like that. So I can see definitely how you guys were freaked out, especially if that changed into a growling noise for sure. The other thing that's really interesting about this, this hundred acre farm area is that you have horses on there, and horses are a thing where it definitely can attract bigfoot to the area. During your time there, did you ever notice any anything weird or how the ordinary with the horses? Let's say it that way.

11:52 There was one particular horse who all of the horses were very affectionate. I got very close with all the horses, but there was one that was particularly always antsy around dinnertime. And we would start at the property that we lived at and we would start closing and feeding them food at night. So we would start there and we would make our way to the other properties, and by the time we got done, it would be dark. So there was one that, particularly at night, he would just be so nervous. He did not want to go into his stall.

12:35 Any other time he was fine, but at night he did not want to go into his stall. And his stall was the furthest one that was like facing the rest of the property. So the barn was in, the house was at the front of this one hundred acres, and then the rest of the property went straight backwards. So you have a couple other fields on either side, and then some trees and a creek, and then a couple of hills and then another big giant field. Excuse me. So whenever we would go and bring him inside at night, it was a hassle.

13:18 Every night I could get how he would be definitely freaked out in that corner of the farm. Were there ever any points where you would notice where you would notice strange things done to the horses, I guess you would say, main or hare there anything weird done to that? No, but I will say that we had like all of the horses, like tack and stuff was on the opposite side, and except for we would hook the harnesses and the entrance, and there would be multiple times where the like where the entrance was and where the stalls started was so far like there's no way the horses could have knocked it down. But we would come in and they would be all of them, like all six of the harnesses would be on the floor. So I don't know what could have done that. I just I think at the time, like there, I just chopped everything up to it's a farm, like just things happened.

14:27 Absolutely, that's weird, but I can definitely get what you're saying there. And also to ask about this area, were there any stories or anything you experienced about other strange things that would happen on the farm, things not necessarily related to Bigfoot, but maybe lights or voices or anything of that nature. No, not that I can really think of. No, gotcha. And so this was really your first kind of on ramp into the Bigfoot activity and realizing, Okay, we got something going on out here. It's a little weird.

15:11 So then after this, how did this affect the rest of your life or the time of your life immediately after did you start really looking into Bigfoot related things or kind of forget about it and come back later. What really stuck with me more so than anything, was seeing that X marked into the ground, and because I had been working in that garden and so I know it wasn't there, and I know it wasn't my partner I So that was what got me down the rabbit hole of what could have done this? So then I start looking up that Okay, that's something that bigfoot does.

15:52 That's a bigfoot activity. And I wouldn't say that I completely forgot about it. I would say that when I was outside, when I was out in the mountains, in the forest, I was looking for signs like that. I was looking for signs of like structures, and I have found quite a few interesting structures, but none that really made me like this is crazy. Some that I'm like, Okay, that could be bigfoot. But it wasn't until I had the next experience that kind of was like, okay, putting two and two together, maybe there's something more to this.

16:35 Absolutely, your eyes are starting to get open a little bit. It sounds feel free to share what happened next in your journey. My next experience happened near the Olympic Forest or I guess the Olympic Forest and out towards the Hammahamma River area. I had gone out there with a couple of my girlfriends and we had gone hiking and fishing, and we had just found a ton of ferries, all kinds of berries, huckleberries, blackberries, you name it. And so we just decided, all right, let's come back here before the summer ends, and we'll get a bunch of berries and we'll make a bunch of jam. And so about a week later, after we had gone on this camping trip, it was three of us girls, I had decided, all right, time's tiken, and I need to get out there if I want to make this jam. So I ended up driving out there out to the Hammahammer River and was going picking some berries and just man, it was getting late, but I was on a roll and was about to be dusk, but it was still about light enough for me to be able to see what I was doing. And I had been out there quite a few times, so I wasn't really I wasn't scared. I was pretty close to my car. I had my pistol on me, so I wasn't like scared or anything. But I figured it's probably time.

18:09 I should probably head back. So I had made my way like up along the road and down the river bank and was getting about ready to leave. But I stopped at this little hole out on the road that had right before a bridge. So it was like this little area right by the river. It was just an awesome spot and the sun's going down and you can just smell all the beautiful smells. It was just amazing. And so I jumped out and grabbed my back my bucket and just started picking berries. And at some point I heard some splashing and I was close to the river, so I just thought, all right, yeah, it might be some fish or wrap bids or something. So I'm picking.

19:03 I was probably there for about twenty minutes, and the whole time I, like I said, I wasn't really scared, but I did feel like I was being watched, and I felt like I was in the Druman Show. I was like, man, somebody's watching me. And so I ended up getting into my car. And when I get into my car, turn my car on and my lights flash, and my lights are flashing like directly into the river. And sitting in the middle of this river was this just huge black thing. And I could tell that it was some kind of animal because it was moving, it wasn't still. It was big, and it was black and it was hairy all over. And so when I get in my car I turned the lights on, I just immediately I'm frozen, and I'm like, I was standing just a couple meters away from a bear, and I was convinced in my mind, like this is a bear. This is a bear. And so I just got out of there as quickly as I could, and I just decided, all right, like that was a bear, like over and over again. But the weird thing is, and what really just scared me since shows up my spine, was that it was about fourty five feet tall, sitting down, oh,

20:38 crouched down, not like a bear would crouch like it was squatting, like a humid wood squat. And I have seen bears in the wild. I've seen a lot of bears, and I've never seen a bear crouched down like that. And it looked like it was eating something maybe fit. But where it was in the river, both sides of the river were overgrown with berries, and it was just it would be a great place for a bigfoot to hang out, honestly, But I was so convinced in my mind that it had to have been a bear. When I was explaining this to a few of my friends, they were like, how big do you think it was?

21:25 Like four to five feet? That doesn't that sounds pretty big for a bear if it was crouched down. Most black bears around here. We have black bears and grizzly bears in Washington State, and mostly grizzlies on the eastern part of the state, So the majority of what you're going to get is a black bear maybe one to three hundred pounds. This thing was definitely bigger than that. That's incredible. How far away from you would you say it was? When I was picking blackberries, I was probably two meters six feet, but you were six feart away from it.

22:05 But I didn't know it was there. I didn't know it was there at the time. I didn't know it was there until I got into my car and turned the lights on, because it was just about dark enough where I really couldn't see where it was dark. I could see where it was light, but where anywhere where they shadow cast it was a little too dark. It was overgrown, and it wasn't until I got into the car that I realized, like, I was just so close to this thing. Absolutely when you're in the car. How far away would you estimate that was. Maybe about twelve feet?

22:46 Okay, wow, you mentioned it was about four to five feet tall sitting down, I would imagine on a rock something like that. How wide a cross would you say it was? Oh? I mean at least three feet across? It was broad. How long do you think you were able to see it? For I? It's hard to say because in that moment, like it felt like forever, but it also felt like it was just so quick. The animal did not move when I saw it, it didn't move. I was the one who freaked out and drove away. The whole time, it seemed very like relaxed, like it wasn't in any harm or it wasn't like on alert at all.

23:53 What were the main things that showed you that it was relaxed. Were there any specific things or it was just nonchalant. It felt like it was like he was sitting in the middle of the river on top of some rocks, because there was a little bit of a rapid area, and it was like he was crouched down with one of his legs hanging down, like off of the rock like a human would sit, and it was like he, I say, he, but who knows, right, I don't want to assume, but the creature reaches down and it's just he reaches down and then puts it in his mouth, so it was like he was just having a snack.

24:42 And the whole time I don't know if the creature realized I was there until I got into my car, or if the whole time, like, yeah, I don't know, maybe he was not there the whole time. I have no idea. Gotcha, you were looking at definitely not wearing any clothes at all. Oh no, definitely not, gotcha. It was definitely hair, But it was like why I thought it was a bear was because it was so hairy that I was like, I don't know, what else is this hairy? Logically in my mind thinking about cryptids or anything like that. Just logically what's to the known world? I think is where my mind went. Was just trying to make sense of it.

25:35 What color would you say the hair was? That you could see. It was very dark, but mind you, it was also dark outside, so what I saw it looked black, but it could have been dark brown. Gotcha, and what year would you say this? Probably? Was this happened in twenty twenty one? Okay, summer of twenty twenty one. Yeah, from what you could see, could you get a sense for the build of it at all? Was it more lean? Was it more muscular? Could you see anything like that?

26:19 I couldn't see like definition, I would say. I would say that it was like I said, I've seen bears in the wild, and I've never seen a bear that looked this big, So it was pretty large. Gotcha. Have you been to a zoo and seen a large ape sitting down like a gorilla sitting down or a video of that? Yeah, I guess probably. I can imagine it in my mind. Is it similar? Is that similar to what you saw? Or was it different? In some ways? I would say I would say it was similar if I didn't if I didn't know any better, which I don't, I would say it was similar, although like I've never thought about it.

27:14 Gotcha, the time that you're able to look at it, were you able to see any parts of the face or the head at all? I was able to see I couldn't make out the face, but I was able to see the shape of the head. And the head was more oblong than it is. Then I feel like a bear's head is. Okay? Gotcha? So not so much a rounded head, but maybe a taper shape at the top or got like a crust to it. Maybe yeah, I would say, definitely like figure the top and then going down. Gotcha. But definitely no, like you said, like a bear's hair head, you think of it as more of that round shape.

28:07 Did you notice anything at the ordinary about its arms or its hands that you could see? I couldn't. Again, I couldn't see like much detail, but I did see it reaching into the water and then bringing that back up to its face and putting something in its mouth. And from where I was standing, obviously this is a couple of years ago, and when you think back on things hard to really picture it. But it didn't necessarily look like claws. Like the hands or the paws or whatever. They were pretty big.

28:53 How big would you be able to estimate how wide across? The hands were much bigger than humans or human size or. I would say, mut of pretty small hands, so much bigger than my hands, But I would say bigger than the average man's hands. Gotcha. One more question about this sighting I'm going to ask it because someone's asked. You mentioned you really didn't see much about the face, but when you saw it bring something up to its mouth at any point, were you able to see any details about the mouth or the teeth. No, but I will say what I could see is a little bit of like the movement of how it was chewing, And it seemed to be more like how a human would chew than how like a bear would just tear it open or swallow it it whole. But it was like actually chewing. You could see.

30:01 That's really cool. Yeah, I totally get it. Yep. So it's not like tearing something just right like you could fit in at a dinner table, or it could fit in a dinner table and not look weird. The way it was. It was like, like I said, like it felt in that moment like this animal, bear, creature whatever it was like didn't mind that I was there, and I obviously posed no threat, but it also didn't seem to pose any threat against me. Absolutely. So a few things about afterwards after this sighting, then you drive off and you're trying to go on with your life. Were you did you have anything any weird physical things? Come up after this or start to experiencing start to experience any other weird things in the week after you had this sighting.

31:01 Oh yeah, actually, okay, yeah. So when I was driving back at the time, I was living in Chelton, so the Hammahammer River area is probably like an hour from where I was living. And so I was driving back and my I had the radio turned on, and the radio kept going It's hard to explain. I don't even know how to explain it. But if you've ever listened now this is getting a little bit more into like more paranormal, but if you've ever listened to like people using ghost boxes, I don't know if you know what that is. Okay, cool, So when I was driving home, my radio kept like going in and out of being a radio station to sounding like that, which really freaked me out o which I ended up getting out, like stopping and getting out of the car because I was like, what is happening? Heart racing and everything, and it took me a while to get back into the car. And then after that it didn't happen. But okay, that's like the one and only time that's ever happened to me.

32:19 To explain, for people that are not really familiar with that. So you're hearing a lot of static, but every once in a while you're hearing a certain word or phrase that comes out and they're not really connected. Right. Yeah, yeah, that's very weird. So was this usually when there's a person that's had interactions with Bigfoot? Was this the time in your life where you're like, Okay, I'm at the point it's one hundred and ten percent, I just saw something. Everything is totally changed. Now, everything's different. How did this affect you afterwards? I don't know if I don't know if I've ever had that exact kind of moment or feeling, because I've always just stayed open to the fact that there's so much that we don't know, and so it didn't really surprise me as much as it was like more kind of confirmation that, yeah, man, there really is so much that we don't know and so much that is unexplored that's just sitting so close to us and we don't even know it.

33:34 That's awesome. I really like that. So at this point, then, are you launching into trying to figure out what it is that I saw or you're just going along with life Hey, that was a fun experience. Let's keep going. Oh no, I'm like full fledged, Like I am all in on all the Facebook groups in Washington. I'm listening to podcasts and videos and sounds, and I continue to forage and hike and do all the things that I love to do. But I just also look for signs here and there while you're out doing these things. It's cool when your compound, your hobbies start to compound, Like you're going rock hounding, but you're also looking for Bigfoot exactly, you're looking for mushrooms. In fact, I'm going right after this and going out to Olympic National Forest to go look for mushrooms and who knows what else I'll find.

34:38 Wow, what a really cool story so far. That is an awesome sighting That you have another thing that happens to you after this point that that you'd like to share as well. Correct, Yes, yeah, and this happened about August twenty twenty four, so last year. Now, I knew a lot about Bigfoot, but I honestly didn't really know a ton about Oakridge, So I didn't know at the time how close I was to Oakridge. I didn't even know how big of a hot spot. It was you just hear everywhere up here as a hot spot. So I didn't really think twice about that. But my husband and I had gone down to Oregon to go camping. We currently live here in Washington, so we had gone down and it was his first summer actually in the country. He's from Argentina, so I wanted to take him to all of my favorite spots. So I was taken him all over Washington, all over Oregon, and wanted to go take him to the Terwilliger Hot Springs and explore around Blue River Lake and just get like a different perspective of the Pacific Northwest.

35:57 We just wanted to hike and take some cool pictures photographers. So we just enjoy getting out and so we drive down there. We're about seven hours in. We didn't know at the time that there's a wildfire that was right where we wanted to camp, and so we didn't know that until we about got there. And we got there, it was probably about seven PM, so it was still light out. It was in the middle of summer, but it was starting to get time where we needed to go and find a place to camp. And the place that we were going to camp was no longer an option. We searched all around that area to try to find a campsite, but there was pretty much people in every spot that we looked, so we ended up just wasting a bunch of time. And by that time, it was probably like eight o'clock, and I'm like, all right, we need to go find just a spot to set up camp and we'll find somewhere else to stay for the weekend tomorrow. So we went and we drove up Santiam Highway and ended up going up a couple of different forest service roads. And we go up this road and we're going pretty much as far as what my car can take. I drive an suv, so we're doing okay, but we can't four by four by any means. And so we get up to the top of this mountain and basically we're as far as where our car can

37:27 take us. And we'd stop driving because there was like ditches and some fallen trees, and we just said, all right, this is a good place to camp. Nobody can go beyond here, so there shouldn't be any through traffic. It should be good. Let's set up camp and make a fire and have dinner and get to bed, basically because we wanted to get up in the morning and find like the camp where we were going to stay for the weekend. And so we set up camp and made a dinner. We made some steak and potatoes and all comfy around the fire and we were just hanging out and we started to hear this noise and my husband was the one who pointed it out, and I at first I thought he was joking, and I was like, I don't know what you're talking about. I don't hear anything.

38:18 So we turned the music off and this noise was loud, but it was something that I had never heard before, and it was like a whooping sound. And as we're hearing it, you can tell that it's far away but still loud enough where we can hear it, and it was getting louder and louder, and so I'm like freaking out at this point, and I'm like, I don't know what this is. I've been out here in the woods Pacific Northwest my whole life and I've never heard this.

38:58 It's not any kind of bird or any kind of any animal that I've ever heard or seen here. And I'm getting freaked out. And typically I'm not the one to get freaked out. Typically, I'm let's go investigate, let's see what's going on. But this was really freaking me out. So I get in the car and my husband's still outside and he's around the fire and he's listening to the whooping sound and it's just getting louder and louder, and at this point I'm like screaming at him, get in the car, Get in the car. I don't know what this is. I have my gun right next to me. I have no idea is as a person whatever. It was so loud that we could hear it, even though you could tell it was probably at least hundreds of feet away. It was just it was crazy. So we got in the back of the suv and fell asleep, and just in the morning we packed up all of our stuff and we got out of there as quickly as we could. But one thing I forgot to put in my email to you that I just remembered. Now, in the morning, we woke up and we packed all of our stuff, and as we were getting ready to leave, there was this truck that drove up there and drove over to where you could no longer drive anymore. There was some down trees in a creek, and he drove up there and he just sat there where you could

40:33 see the mountain ridge, and he was just sitting there with binoculars. And I didn't really think much of it. But now looking back, I'm thinking, I don't know, maybe he knew something was up there. That had to been an extremely stressful situation. My goodness, that area is wild. You are the Santiam Highway that's up by sweet Home and Cascadi. Let me look at the map because I've got it marked here. I was off of National Forest Road twenty six seventy two, so I believe that it's close to their Sweet Home. Actually, yeah, closer to closer to Highway one twenty six, so right there by let's say Clear Lake.

41:35 Oh and Sahali Falls, So right up there in those mountains. If you look at where Sahali Falls is and you just look to the left of there, you can see a mountain range there. We were right there. Okay, so you're left. So if you continue to go west of Sahali Falls, that's the area you were. Yeah, okay, I've driven that and that's extreme wild, my goodness. And Clear Lake has stuff going on, Fish Lake has stuff going on. That whole area is just pretty wild. Wow, I'm not surprised that you were. You're having stuff going on, especially when you've had those fires, which I believe the fire you're talking about was that south of you guys down like bell Knap Springs. Yeah, area exactly exactly what you're talking about.

42:25 Okay, interesting, And at the time I didn't know that was. I didn't know how close Oakridge was or like I said, how just renowned it is for bigfoot sightings. And it wasn't until I was listening to a couple of your podcasts and wait a second, that is pretty close to where we were, and some of these experiences are pretty similar. Oh one hundred percent. The thing about this will lam At National Forest Area is literally you can just throw a dart at a map and it would be like, that's the area it's going from, really the whole cascades, going all the way up to Mount Hood and then you've got you go all the way down to Odell Lake.

43:10 But then just keep you keep going, and you keep going and everything is just bigfoot encounters. I'm looking at my map on Bigfociety podcast Dot com and it's just so many experiences in that area. When you said you so you heard a whoop, you heard multiple whoops, very loud, very close. Have you ever tried to find sounds that are similar to that or listen to things like a given in the zoo and been like, oh, it sounds like that, not. Oh absolutely. That was the first thing I did as soon as we got reception. Actually was I looked up, like all the animals in that area, and I started one by one listening to their calls and as many as I could find, at least on YouTube. And it wasn't until I was listening to some bigfoot videos of some sounds, and I think I sent you one of the videos there. But it was this Yerra Nevada video of the whooping that I was like, man, that is exactly what we heard in like, nothing can convince me otherwise, like that is the same animal.

44:21 That's incredible. You mentioned that. So you ended up both going to sleep in the back of the truck or suv afterwards. Was it hard to get to sleep or was it a thing where you guys were able to get to sleep pretty quickly. I think my husband knocked out pretty quickly. I was wide awake, and I had the moon roof open so I could just see all the stars, and I had cracked my window just a little bit so I could if I could hear anything. And after we got into the car, it was like it quieted down. So I don't know if maybe we were disturbing them, or we were a little too close or what it was, but it seemed like after we got in the car and we kind of settled ourselves down, that like everything else settled down.

45:13 To gotcha, that kind of makes sense too. Oh, when you're up in this area, were there any times where the sounds or smells of the forest became something that you didn't expect? Like I said, when we calmed down, everything calmed down, and all the like crickets and stuff started cricketing again, the frogs started frogging, like all the normal noises that you hear in the forest. When that whooping was happening was not there, Like it was silent. Okay, besides that in wings and as soon as we got in the car, my husband knocked out. I've sat there and I just waited until I heard like that normal sounds of nature come back, and it was like, Okay, now I can relax a little bit.

46:09 Absolutely. When you're out there in the woods and everything just shuts down and there's no sound at all, it's very disconcerting. I don't know if you experienced too. It's like almost the pressure sometimes in your ears starts to change. It's very weird. It's hard to explain until you've been in that situation. I think absolutely. Your husband, of course is not here, But how did he take the whole experience, especially being from Argentina and this is his first time going into different places like this in the Pacific Northwest, and then you first first times and you experience something like this, Like, how did that affect him?

46:51 I don't think that he was quite as freaked out until he saw how freaked out I was. Like, I think at first he thought like that it was like a funny, like it's an animal, but we didn't know what it was. But then when he saw the way that I reacted, because he knows like, I am very used to being in the woods, and I'm very used to being in the woods alone. A lot of times I go out hiking foraging, sometimes with people, but a lot of times it's alone and so the way that he saw me react, I think told him like, okay, I need to get in the car, like this is something serious. Definitely freaked him out, but I don't think it scared him away. Now would he want to go in and seek it out? I don't think so.

47:43 Gotcha after this experience, which was pretty intense. It's a little different than your sighting, where that was very low key. You're just watching it and then you drive off, But this is something coming towards you very overwhelming. How were you affected after this whole ordeal? I think in the moment it scared me, probably more than I've ever been scared. But afterwards it was like an adrenaline rush, like I wanted to find out more, like what did I experience and talk to other people that have had similar experiences. It's like it almost becomes like addicting. No.

48:34 One hundred is I can tell you that as well. Yeah, it's the quest for the information that we can't find on the internet, and I think that might have something to do with it. Where there's not many things that you can't find the answer for anymore, and when you have those things like Bigfoot, where other crypt is it Bigfoot? Is a big one gets so so addictive because and then you're like, oh, we can cross look at this dot on the map here, and this dot on the map here. There's probably more things going on here. Let's check it out. Have you gotten then to the point where you're like going out looking yourself or it's just as you go out look for mushrooms and foraging, it's right there in the back of your mind, and you're prepared for things to happen.

49:22 Yeah, I think that it's always right there. I think that, especially when you go into the woods, especially by yourself, I think you always have to be prepared for whatever is going to happen. But there's also I think a sense of like calm in being in nature that at least from my experience, I'm a five to one, one hundred and ten pound girl, so I'm not a threat and I feel I feel that energy whenever I have had these experiences that like that they don't see me as a threat, So there's a little bit more like trust, If that makes sense.

50:08 Absolutely I agree with you on that. And also I could say I know that there are at these situations I've been in where if there are females present, especially certain types of females, there can be way more activity. It's very interesting. So I think that female presence but also maybe a certain type and I don't know if I can go into any more than that, but it does need to attract activity and curiosity, which is very interesting and hopefully one of those things that can be studied one day. But Angel, what a fascinating conversation. Thank you for coming on the show and for sharing what you've experienced up there in Washington and Oregon over the years.

50:54 And I just want to make sure that you were able to share everything that you had come prepared to share today. Something that I just as we're talking about this and things are just coming into my mind is it's almost like things come full circle and it's, oh, okay, that makes sense. That makes sense. I just remembered when I was a little girl. Now, my dad, he grew up in the sixties and the seventies and was a big part of the music scene and sex, drugs and rock and roll was the thing. But my dad was also an avid just outdoors and hunter, fish or hiker, all the things. And I remember being a little girl and my dad telling me about his encounter with Bigfoot, and at the time I didn't believe him. But as I've had these experiences. Now my dad's passed away about ten years ago, but as I've had these experiences, it's almost been like a I told you. So It's just ironic how kind of full circle this all is, of being told that as a little kid and not necessarily believing, but then actually going out and having these experiences for yourself without necessarily really trying.

52:17 I'm sorry that you did lose your father, but that is very interesting that he was able to share that with you as well. So he was able to have an actual sighting. Is that anything you'd be able to share? Not to be super forward about. It, but yeah, I can share with you what I remember of the story. Of course, like I said, this was told to me probably twenty five years ago. But my dad and his best friend were out in the Gifford Pinchit National Forest and they were camping, and they had gone to bed, and my dad and his best friend, and like I said, they were definitely in the music scene.

53:03 They were definitely partying. And I think this is why I thought you're making this up, because I was like, you're probably smoking the wacky Tobacci or doing something crazy. But they started hearing some like strange noises, so they got up and they saw a creature standing at the edge of the tree line where their campsite was, and they got back in their tent and were scared. And that was the story that I can really remember. But I know that it was in that Gifford Pinchant National Forest, and I know that there's quite a bit of activity there too. Oh.

53:48 Absolutely, giffincho that could be anywhere from Mount Saint Helen's over to Mount Adams and everywhere in between. Definitely closer to that a Mount Saint Helen's area. That makes perfect sense. Then there's so many things that have happened in Mount Saint Helens. It is a cool connection that you do have to your father, where both of you were able to have a sighting of something that is very rare to be able to have the sighting of a bigfoot. So it's cool that you have that connection between the two of you there in memory. But Angel, thank you so much for coming on the show today. It has been a privilege to talk to you and definitely keep us in the loop if you're out there forging or picking mushrooms and you have other things happen, feel free to reach out. We'd love to hear about it. And thank you for chatting today.

54:46 Oh absolutely, thank you Jeremiah for just all the work that you're doing for this and helping normal people feel like they're not crazy. Absolutely appreciate your time and thank you. Before we wrap this episode, I want to say something directly to a very specific group of listeners. If you're in the military, any branch or forces, and if you've seen something that no one can explain, or if you're a National park ranger or forestry worker who's been told to stay quiet, or if you're a pilot who's seen something strange down on the ground, or if you're with the FBI a federal agency, or working intelligence and you've stumbled upon something you're not allowed to talk about. And if you're a firefighter, paramedic, or search and rescue responder who's heard screams or found tracks that didn't make sense, if you're in the logging industry on a remote oil field or a trucker with government contracts and you've had something happen that you've never told a soul, and if you're a biologist, a wildlife specialist, or a field researcher under contract who has found evidence you're not allowed to report.

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