Feb. 23, 2026

From Alaska to Ape Island: Bigfoot Investigations with Aleks Petakov

From Alaska to Ape Island: Bigfoot Investigations with Aleks Petakov
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Season 1

In this episode, we sit down with Aleks Petakov of Small Town Monsters to explore years of boots-on-the-ground Bigfoot investigations stretching from the remote coastline of Alaska to the dense forests of Kentucky and beyond. Aleks shares what it is really like to spend extended time in isolated wilderness where help is miles away and unusual activity unfolds long after midnight.


On Alaska’s Kenai Peninsula, Aleks recounts late-night wood knocks cutting through the rainforest, rocks striking shoreline waters in the early morning hours, and heavy stomping sounds moving near camp. He describes the discovery of a primate-like handprint on a remote cabin, large impressions pressed deep into moss, and a strange rock-scraping sound heard from across a creek that has never been fully explained.


The conversation moves to a cold November night in Kentucky, where a distinct wood knock was followed by a large thermal heat signature on a hillside that disappeared within minutes. Aleks reflects on the challenge of documenting fleeting moments like these, the weight of credible eyewitness testimony, and what long-term fieldwork teaches you about patience, risk, and uncertainty.


We also discuss his upcoming Journey to Ape Island project on Vancouver Island, an area layered with Indigenous history, generations of Sasquatch lore, and some of the most rugged terrain in North America.


Join us for a grounded, field-driven conversation that brings you into the reality of modern Bigfoot investigation and leaves you thinking long after the episode ends.



Resources


Alaskan Coastal Sasquatch Documentary
https://youtu.be/kjLLHL7GouQ?si=ZWykQHuUk-jAlTaN



Small Town Monsters 2026 Kickstarter (UFOs, Dogman & Bigfoot)
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/minervamonster/small-town-monsters-2026-ufos-dogman-and-bigfoot



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You're listening to BIGFA Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron. In

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this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to bring

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you first hand encounters from people who say they've seen

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something impossible. From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers to

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quiet farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere,

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and each one leaves us with more questions than answers.

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These are the voices of the people who've lived it.

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To settle in, because today you'll hear another account that

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just might change the way you see the woods forever.

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So stay with us, all right, Big for Society. You've

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got the privilege of talking to an old friend today,

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mister Alex Pettakoff or Alexander Pettacoff. You may know of

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him from his many documentaries, docuseries YouTube videos with the

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Small Town Monsters Crew. I would say most notably is

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of course, the Bigfoot Beyond the Trail series, which according

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to the information that Alex has given me, has a

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massed over to two twenty three million collective views on YouTube,

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which is incredible. You haven't heard Alex on this show

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since episode number twenty in twenty twenty. That was roughly

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about a thousand episodes ago, So welcome back, Alex. It's

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been probably too long to have you back on. But

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how are you doing today, sir wow.

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Man, thanks for having me on. Yeah. I was thinking

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in my head, I was like, was it in twenty

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twenty one or twenty twenty I couldn't remember when it

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was that I first came on, but I think it

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was before any of you on the Trail or anything

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like that even started. So that is that is definitely

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interesting and good to be back though. Thank you.

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That's wild, I mean, and that's probably even before because

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we did some of some stuff on Clubhouse and some

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that's just a whole another lifetime. That was a fun time,

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but stuff was weird seven years ago, so we made

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it work. But Alex, is there anything else that you

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would like the listeners to know about yourself before we

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get talking about your many adventures over the years.

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I don't know. I think just I'd like to tell

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people that I'm you know, I'm a Sasquatch enthusiast and investigator.

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I'm not a scientist. I'm just a filmmaker. I really

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try to showcase my journeys in a way that allows

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people to kind of come along for the ride, and

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you know, again filmmaker, that's that's kind of my background.

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So but I do try to be as analytical and

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scientific as possible when it comes to the Sasquatch topic,

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and that's kind of what I try to convey in

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a lot of my documentaries. So that's I think. I

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think that's about it.

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Absolutely. Let's say, there could be some individuals that have

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never seen any Small Town Monsters films or a YouTube series.

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Thinking about all the different adventures that you've gone on

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over the years, maybe specifically with the Bigfoot Beyond the Trail,

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is there one that steps out or one that usually

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people like to start there and is really maybe encompassing

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of the series in general.

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That's a tough one to ask because there's so many,

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and you know, all these different journeys and adventures they

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kind of become they become like, you know, fun kind

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of things you remember, and it's tough to pick one,

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like it's trying to pick your favorite child kind of thing.

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It can be difficult. I think there's a few that

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probably stand out above others, Like I would say some

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of the Alaska stuff that we've done over the years,

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in particular at Area A on the key Ni Peninsula.

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sort of a one that really sticks out. I think

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that was back in twenty twenty two, and I think

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that really set the course for a lot of the

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like the YouTube side of things. That's really a thing

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when a lot of people became aware of us and

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small Town Monsters. In its nature, it was a production

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company based on small town history and folklore and cryptid,

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paranormal urban legend kind of stuff. It was never necessarily

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like Bigfoot specific, which I think a lot of people

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that maybe are not familiar with small Town Monsters think

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it's like a Bigfoot investigation thing. That's just part of it.

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Like we do a lot at small Town Monsters, but

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I think, you know, in particular, like the more YouTube

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and the docu series side of things that I've focused

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on has been primarily on YouTube and other streaming sites,

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so I think a lot of people become aware of

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us from there. But we've covered all sorts of topics UFOs, Mothman,

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the Bell Witch, Jersey Devil. I mean, I'm just one

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component small Town Monsers. At this point. There's a whole

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bunch of us' Seth Breedlove, Heather Moser, Aaron D's. There's

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a whole bunch of kind of creators there at small

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Town Monsters. And I focus on my series again, you

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mentioned Bigfoot Beyond the Trail, or Beyond the Trail as

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we kind of call it. That's been one that I

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focused on over the years, but I've done a variety

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of other ones as well, and yeah, it's been a

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very interesting journey so far, I would say, But I

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would say definitely one of the more prominent ones is

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probably the Alaskan series that I've done. There's a variety

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of them, but sort of the ones at location called Area,

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I think people probably are most familiar with. So that's

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what I would say sticks out a lot in terms of,

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you know, I've been there three times now, to Area

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and the Keni Peninsula, and it's it's place I think

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about a lot.

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It is really a fascinating series when you think about

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even just the Alaska stuff, and I know, man, there's

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there's one part that sticks out where like people almost

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it almost got really serious up. There wasn't there like

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a kayak that got dumped over.

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was with us on the trip. They we were out

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in this kind of these two sea kayaks, me and

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this guy, and he ended up actually overturning this sea kayak,

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which was a pretty dramatic event. I mean, that was

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something that those things can be very I don't want

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to say wobbly, but they it's an acquired skill to

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learn how to maneuver in a sea kayak, and especially

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with the waves get little choppy. So this is the

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Gulf of Alaska, basically, you know, very cold, very very

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deep waters, and I'm behind him and he happens to

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kind of lose control and tips over, and we were

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out and the rest of the guys were actually out

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on a boat in a different area fishing. So it

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was a little bit alarming, and I had to compose

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myself to help him get him to shore, and the

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idea was to hike back to this cabin we were

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there at and run the woodstove so he didn't get

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into hypothermic state. It was a very dramatic moment, and

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I asked him after him like I mean, if you

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don't want me to include this in the film, I won't, right,

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like I you know, but we chose to include it

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in the end because I feel it. It kind of

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it shows that there's a you know, the life and

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death components can be very so out there in a

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remote place like Alaska, And that's something I tried to

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impart in any of my work that's in like remote areas,

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but especially Alaska. Want you know, this is an area

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where it takes us over an hour on a boat

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just to get there, Right, So any kind of injury

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can become much more dangerous than it would be in

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like a normal setting. Right, you break your leg out there,

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I mean you're very far from help as opposed to

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in the city park or wherever I can get to

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the hospital quickly. Right, it's not inherently a life threatening

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injury as opposed to being out in a remote place.

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So the risk is kind of double with everything, especially

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something like that. Luckily, the guys are on the boat nearby,

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and they actually saw what happened, and they came and

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they were able to rescue us, and we were able

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to get them. But I mean, again, we would have

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just hiked back through the woods and I kind of

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knew my way to the cabin, and the goal would

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be to kind of get the woodstuf going and help

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them warm up a little bit. But yeah, that was

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a very serious moment happened in that first Alaska series.

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That was one that you know, hard to forget about

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something like that.

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Absolutely, and this area it was it's close to where

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Les Stroud had his experience, right.

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Yes and no. So it's it's a tricky one because

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the Keen Ei Peninsula, the southern coast of the Keen

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Eye Peninsula is I mean, I don't know if you

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added up all the inlets in the bays, I mean

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maybe you've got thousands of miles. There's there's a lot

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of space out there, like a ridiculous amount. So this

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is one bay of hundreds out there, right, But it's

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the same type of southern coastline. You know. I've tried

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to figure out exactly I don't know the exact specifics

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of Less's location, and I've talked to Les Stroud about

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this encounter, and you know, trying to kind of get

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back to this area, which we hope to do at

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some point. But it's it's it's close, but it's not

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at the same time, if you get what I'm saying,

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Like Alaska, it's also technically it's close to Port Chatham,

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which is one of the most famous kind of areas

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in Alaska. A lot of people know about Port Chatham

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and the alleged kind of crazy killer Bigfoot stuff, which

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I think is slightly well maybe not slightly, but very sensationalized,

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you know. And I'm not pointing fingers. I think there's

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between shows and different researchers. Over the years, there's been

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a lot of story details added to that. But I've

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talked to people who grew up in that area, like

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my buddy Chuk who's from Homer, which is the closest

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town to Port Chadow, and he grew up bear hunting

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around that area, and people talked about, oh, yeah, there

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used to be a town here that was abandoned because

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of Bigfoot, like that was kind of a local urban

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legend sort of thing. But anyway, back to the original

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point is that you could take a picture of Port

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Chatham where less Head is, encounter where Area A is,

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and to somebody who doesn't know that, it all looks

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the same. It's like this temperate rainforest environment, these giant

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mountains that just shoot out of the ocean, snowcap peaks,

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and these beautiful temperate rainforests. So the habitat's virtually the

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same as it would be where less head is encoun.

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Even if individuals are not into Bigfoot, which why then

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you're listening to the show is a mystery. But the

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point I'm trying to make is that those Alaska series

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documentaries not only have Bigfoot stuff in it, but the

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scenery that you guys capture is absolutely breathtaking. I mean,

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it is some really, really good stuff. So that's that's

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also another great reason if you're wanting to know what

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these areas really look like, you guys capture some some

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fantastic scenery along the way as well. Has there been

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an incident when you've been up in Alaska in this

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area where you know, maybe let's say you never got

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to go back again. You're thinking about your your journal,

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your travels up there, and you're like that that thing

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that happened was the best evidence or the best thing

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that we experience that told us that, yes, Bigfoot is

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up there.

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Interesting question. I mean, there's been a few incidents that

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have happened there that kind of are intriguing to me,

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like that happened personally while I was there. I mean,

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just to back up a little bit a lot of

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the stories told there at Area A, I mean, and

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just to kind of like back up even further, I'll

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give a really quick summation of what it is. I mean,

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it's just a code name for a piece of property

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up on this remote Kenai Peninsula area that a friend

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of mine. You know, he's an outdoor enthusiast in Alaska,

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hunting fishing, as many people in Alaska do. He just

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happened to come across a parcel of land that he

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bought in this area and began building a cabin out

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there with the intent of it being used for hunting

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and fishing. That was the primary motivation. And pretty much

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from day one of buying the property and going out there,

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strange things started happening. You know, football sized rocks flying

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horizontally out of the woods, these hollow baseball bat kind

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of noises would knock sort of stuff, weird vocalizations, whistling,

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a lot of the stuff that's purported Bigfoot behavior. And

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this person, you know, this property owner, he was not

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into bigfoot at all, never had any interest. Again, was

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just an outdoor enthusiast, never went looking for this stuff.

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It kind of came to him, as I think is

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the case with a lot of these remote properties. I'm

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sure you've heard stories of this time and time again,

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as I have. But what was really interesting was when

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he initially was building this cabin, he was unsure about

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this activity going on out there, and he reached out

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to a boat captain who had helped him bring out

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some of the lumber and the timber and the building materials,

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because you need a much larger kind of transport boat

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to get all that out, you know, as opposed to

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like the typical kind of boat somebody has out there.

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Isn't enough to haul ten thousand pounds of construction material, right,

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So he contacts his boat captain and tells him about

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some of the stuff that's going on because he has

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no idea what we're getting rocks thrown at us, whistles

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like these, strange noise, all this sort of stuff, And

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this boat captain tells him, well, I mean you're talking

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about like sasquatch type stuff, and you know, the property

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owners like kind of agitated, and this is not this

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is serious I'm not joking around here. This is not

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a joke. He says, no, No, I'm serious. You remember

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Less Stroud and he tells him the story about how

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this boat, Captain, the transport boat was actually contracted by

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Less's production company back in the early two thousands when

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he was filming Survivor Man. He was the one that

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went out and dropped off Less when he was doing

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his overnight when he had that strange encounter. I think

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it was season two or three. I got to look back,

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but and what's interesting is I went back then and

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I rewatched that episode Survivorman with Less, and I saw

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they had one shot of Less. What they do is they,

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he said, the boat takes them around and kind of

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films a little bit, and they get some b roll

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of Less paddling past some some some kayaking past some

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like glaciers and stuff like that, and then they really

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just drop him off and they hey, here's a pickup

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time in a few days, and they leave him. There's

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no crew or anything that goes with him. And he

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Less happened to get a shot of the boat as

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it was leaving, and I saw the name of it,

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and that corresponded with the pictures that the property owner

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of area had sent me about when they dropped the

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materials off. So I said, oh, there's another link right there.

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That's a you know, that's kind of an interesting connection.

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But basically, after this boat captain had told the property owner,

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you know, remember Less Stroud, he began to kind of

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take a little more seriously because Less, you know, very

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respected kind of outdoor survivalist. You know, he's done a

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Bigfoot series, but he's did a lot before he ever

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dipped his tone into the Bigfoot world. Right, So, all

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the stuff that's happened over the years, there's just been

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a lot of area the very typical kind of Bigfoot

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stuff commonly reported elsewhere. But in terms of when I

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went there first twenty twenty two, we had a couple

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of instances of some interesting stuff. One of which was

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around like three or four in the morning. A bunch

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of us were sitting around this fire pit and just

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kind of you know, it was in this we call

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the upper fire pit. It's this little ledge area that's

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tucked higher up into this hill, and the terrain there

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is it's just it's covered in moss. There's these you know,

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beautiful trees, everywhere, this kind of temperate rainforest looking environment.

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And there's a little bit of a hill above us.

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Nothing very steep, but you know, it's kind of a

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little bit of a hill. And this fire pit overlooks

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kind of the ocean a little bit. It's a little

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ways down from there. We were sitting around there three

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or four in the morning and we heard, you know,

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these really distinct kind of wood knock type sounds like

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very kind of cut through the night, and we have

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audio recording. We're, oh, let's listen to that. And then

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we hear what sounds like what I can only describe

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is rocks being thrown into the ocean. But you didn't

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just hear the sound of water splashing, because you could say, okay,

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maybe that could be a sea otter or a seal

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slapping right, like this happens commonly, and especially in other

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areas with beavers, like you get beaver slabs, right, that

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can sound like a rock hitting the water. But what

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happened here is you'd hear like something moving through the trees,

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like something hitting debris or branches along the way, and

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then the shore of the beach there is rock. You'd

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hear like a rock smash crack, and then kurk plunk

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into the water. This happened quite a few times, really

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weird and mixed in with the woodennocks. It was kind

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of very interesting and we were scanning with the thermals,

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didn't see anything. Now the hill above us, people could say, well,

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could it have just rolled down the hill? Right? Yes,

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we tried to emulate that. So, first of all, there

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aren't The only rocks you can really find are down

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by the beach, and you know, trying to get one

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hundred feet up a hill in Alaska very difficult. You

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have Devil's Club, this kind of large plant that has

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these thorns that will absolutely mess you up, but it's

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not very easy to do. So again, there's only rocks

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by the beach, and we attempted it. We took some

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rocks from the upper fire pit and tried to throw

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them down to hit the beach and then into the water,

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and we tried just rolling them off first, and they

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just roll down the hill and just get stuck. And

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you wouldn't even hear it because there's so much moss,

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Like the entire ground level is just this spongy moss layer.

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You could just I've literally slept. I've just laid down

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in the moss and taken naps out there at area

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because it's so it's so comfortable, so it acts like

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a sponge of catches the rocks. The only way we

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could really get the rocks to make the same kind

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of sound that we heard was kind of an overhand

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throw and making sure they hit the beach and then

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splash into the water. It's very interesting, right, I mean,

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can I say it's anything definitive? No, we've had that happen.

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Based off of that incident, we decided to camp up

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on that ridge kind of above there. And the first

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night we camped up there, I believe it was the

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night after, Yes, it was the night after we had

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this kind of rock throw, would knock incident, whatever you

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want to call it. We're camping up on this ridge

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and it's like the only night that first trip where

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it started drizzling rain a little bit, so you wouldn't

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be able to hear much because it would kind of

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like this pitter pattern on the tent and then it

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would stop, but we would hear these like stomping noises,

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like something was getting closer and kind of stomping, and

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we'd hear these wood knocks and more of these kind

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of rock throw sounds, and it was really weird. And

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I would try to get out of my tent with

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a thermal and see, but I couldn't see anything in

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the terrain where we had set up camp. You know,

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we've got these big like moss draw kind of like

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right around us. We were kind of like in a

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low area on top of the on top of the hill.

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Didn't end up seeing anything. We would hear this and

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the rain would start. You'd be like, oh, come on, like,

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go away, rain. I can't hear anything now because all

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here is the tent. And that was a weird one.

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I don't exactly know what that was about, but it

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ended and we camped on that same spot the night

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after that, didn't rain at all. Didn't hear anything other

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than sea lions in the bays making these They make

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these kind of horrible roaring noises, just these and you'd hear,

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you know, one go off and like three respond in

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the other bay. Didn't hear anything else weird or suspicious,

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so that was kind of interesting. And then we also

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found this kind of weird handprint on the side of

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the cabin, right yeah, we documented, and we had somebody

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afterwards take samples of it, and it was actually all

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the samples were sent off the Doug Hicheck as part

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of Legend mead science too, So we still don't really know.

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It was an interesting handprint. I mean, I think I

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can't say it's sasquatch obviously, but I don't think it

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was a moose. I don't think it was a bear like.

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It was a clear primate handprint. So fifty to fifty

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odds pretty good, right, you know, it's either a human

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or it's not. It's not again, it's not a bear like.

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There was clear digits, there was dramatic glyphics you know,

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found in primates, So I don't know. It definitely was

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an interesting find. That was our first trip, which was

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very kind of a couple of dramatic things that happened.

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You know, you hear these mystery gunshots sort of noises

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as well. I think, are just these wood knocks or

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rock knocks coming from higher up or something like that.

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It's what I assume. A year after that, I went

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for two weeks out to Area A and we heard

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pretty much nothing. It was extremely quiet. It was also

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raining the entire time. That first trip we went out

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in twenty twenty two, it was sunny, beautiful. We had

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like one day of rain that one night when were

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camped on that ridge. Second trip in twenty twenty three,

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decided to do two weeks. I thought, Okay, maybe if

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we're out there longer, there'd be more of a chance

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of something happening. Nothing, Almost nothing happened. We found a

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lot of strange prints. We even had, you know, a

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friend of mine named Damon Irons who had a thermal drone.

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We were deploying the thermal drone with the idea of

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like if we heard anything, you know, we're camped at

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the upper fire pit, Damon's down at the cabin. Hey man,

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we got some activity, launched the drone and try to

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triangulate you. And that's the idea behind like thermal drone

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usage didn't have Almost nothing is very quiet. You have

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to realize how much space there is out there. If

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something doesn't want to be there, it could just be

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two bays over and never even come in contact with you,

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right like, So that second trip very uneventful. And then

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the last trip I went on, which was this past

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year in twenty twenty five, was my third trip out there,

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went out for a week. It also rained most of

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the week, but we had a few good days. And

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I say rain most of the week. I mean, this

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is a temperate rainforest, right, so it's not like this

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is unheard of, But there will be times where it's

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just beautiful and in other times where it's just downpour.

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It's kind of a toss up in the summer. But

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this third trip we went on, nothing super definitive happened.

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We had this one really weird kind of like rock

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rubbing incident as my friend Brian and I call it

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my friend Brian Garvey. He was with me and it

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was our first day there at the property, and the

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property owner, a guy named Rob Roy Menzies, and a

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couple other people went off to do some fishing, so

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me and Brian were the only ones there at the cabin.

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It was like, right as we're kind of getting set up,

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I didn't even have my audio record route, which is

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a total rookie mistake, by the way, but we were

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about to fly a drone and we were just kind

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of like getting random footage, and all of a sudden,

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from like around this bend, we hear this like I've

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never heard anything like it. I don't know if I've had,

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like one other person tell me they've heard of it,

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like this kind of sound with bigfoot, but I'm not

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saying it is. But we heard this like strange rock rubbing.

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That's the way we would describe it. It's a very

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weird thing to say. It was like, I'll just emulate

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what it sounded like. For maybe fifteen twenty seconds, it

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was like this, like it was just very weird. It

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literally sounded like like we tried to recreate it afterwards

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and just like taking two rocks and just scraping them

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against each other. Didn't sound like a rock slide, like

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rocks falling. I've heard that plenty of times. It didn't

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sound like something, you know, clacking rocks together. It sounded

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like scraping, which was which is weird. I mean, again,

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I don't know what it was like. Could it have

451
00:22:22.359 --> 00:22:26.319
been sea otter doing that, like I guess it's possible.

452
00:22:26.359 --> 00:22:28.839
I really don't know. I know they they crack stuff

453
00:22:28.839 --> 00:22:33.640
with rocks like malluks, mollusks or shells or stuff like that.

454
00:22:34.039 --> 00:22:36.160
I know they've been known to do that, But it

455
00:22:36.240 --> 00:22:38.440
was so loud that's what was so weird. I mean,

456
00:22:38.559 --> 00:22:41.319
we're talking like hundreds of yards away from us where

457
00:22:41.359 --> 00:22:44.240
we were. We're in this bay and there's like a

458
00:22:44.319 --> 00:22:47.759
couple hundred yards maybe more or probably more. Honestly, there's

459
00:22:47.799 --> 00:22:50.079
this bend that goes around that we can't see around it,

460
00:22:50.119 --> 00:22:52.839
and there's a creek that feeds up from the higher mountains.

461
00:22:53.680 --> 00:22:55.279
And the creek was very low when first got there

462
00:22:55.319 --> 00:22:57.319
because they hadn't had rain, and by the time we

463
00:22:57.400 --> 00:22:59.920
left that was a raging river because of the amount

464
00:22:59.960 --> 00:23:01.880
of we got that week. But that's where the sound

465
00:23:01.920 --> 00:23:03.599
came from. And that was a bit of a weird

466
00:23:03.599 --> 00:23:05.000
one because we were kind of like, Okay, what did

467
00:23:05.079 --> 00:23:07.599
we just hear? Of course, you know, I was like

468
00:23:07.880 --> 00:23:10.559
getting a battery or something like that, and my camera

469
00:23:10.680 --> 00:23:12.519
was standing next to Brian and we were about to

470
00:23:12.559 --> 00:23:14.799
do this drone thing, and I was signaling to Brian

471
00:23:14.799 --> 00:23:16.799
as we're hearing it, like dude, turn the camera on,

472
00:23:16.920 --> 00:23:18.839
hit record. But he didn't know how to operate my

473
00:23:19.359 --> 00:23:21.759
Sony A seven and by the time he figured it out,

474
00:23:21.799 --> 00:23:24.319
it was already over. It was like fifteen twenty seconds.

475
00:23:24.319 --> 00:23:27.440
But it was weird. I don't know again, I can't

476
00:23:27.480 --> 00:23:29.720
say what it is or what it wasn't, But I

477
00:23:29.759 --> 00:23:31.559
wish I had the audio release and then because maybe

478
00:23:31.559 --> 00:23:34.240
we could do like a process of elimination try to

479
00:23:34.240 --> 00:23:37.279
figure out what it may have been. But that was

480
00:23:37.359 --> 00:23:39.720
you know, kind of the in this last trip there

481
00:23:39.880 --> 00:23:42.039
in the third trip. So yeah, between all the trips,

482
00:23:42.079 --> 00:23:44.400
there's been some interesting stuff you needed. On the second trip,

483
00:23:44.640 --> 00:23:46.640
even though we didn't have much happen, we did find

484
00:23:46.799 --> 00:23:49.039
a lot of these really weird kind of large prints

485
00:23:49.559 --> 00:23:51.920
in the in the mosque that were like stomped in

486
00:23:51.960 --> 00:23:54.640
and multiple of them going up in this very remote area,

487
00:23:55.240 --> 00:23:57.480
and you know, I got three D scans of some

488
00:23:57.559 --> 00:23:59.720
of it and it pretty interesting. I don't know, I mean,

489
00:24:00.119 --> 00:24:03.079
be bear, double step possibly. You know, there are big

490
00:24:03.519 --> 00:24:06.599
brown bears out there in moose and Sitka blacktail deer

491
00:24:06.599 --> 00:24:09.000
and all sorts of mountain goats, all kinds of animals,

492
00:24:09.000 --> 00:24:10.640
but there was a lot of them in like the

493
00:24:10.680 --> 00:24:12.839
same area and they were all kind of very similar.

494
00:24:13.359 --> 00:24:16.799
So yeah, I guess over the years that to you know,

495
00:24:16.839 --> 00:24:19.079
to answer your question, there's been things that have happened.

496
00:24:19.079 --> 00:24:21.759
They're definitely interesting and kind of if there were a

497
00:24:21.759 --> 00:24:23.480
place for something like this to be, I mean, I

498
00:24:23.480 --> 00:24:27.000
don't see why it wouldn't be here. You have, it's

499
00:24:27.039 --> 00:24:30.319
a lot more temperate there than the rest of Alaska.

500
00:24:30.400 --> 00:24:33.000
Like it doesn't get into crazy freezing temperatures on the

501
00:24:33.079 --> 00:24:36.519
Keenai Peninsula as as compared to even like Anchorage a

502
00:24:36.559 --> 00:24:41.119
few hours north, let alone interior Alaska brutal winters. And

503
00:24:41.160 --> 00:24:44.319
it's very similar habitat to like that temperate rainforest chain

504
00:24:44.400 --> 00:24:47.759
you have basically from there in Alaska, in the Keen

505
00:24:47.759 --> 00:24:50.200
Eye Peninsula all the way down in northern California and

506
00:24:50.359 --> 00:24:53.039
the entire Pacific Northwest British Columbia. And you think about

507
00:24:53.039 --> 00:24:56.000
those areas that typically have some of the best amount

508
00:24:56.039 --> 00:24:58.960
of sasquatch sightings, history and lore or really anywhere in

509
00:24:59.000 --> 00:25:01.359
the world, and I think it's for good reason. You

510
00:25:01.359 --> 00:25:05.599
have food year round and just an incredible amount of space,

511
00:25:05.839 --> 00:25:09.279
and you know, both marine and terrestrial resources.

512
00:25:10.200 --> 00:25:13.960
Absolutely listeners. Again, if you haven't checked out any of

513
00:25:14.000 --> 00:25:19.160
the Alaska series, you can find those just on the

514
00:25:19.279 --> 00:25:22.599
Small Town Monsters YouTube channel. Still correct outs.

515
00:25:23.319 --> 00:25:28.000
Yeah, yeah, so, I mean, so we did the Alaskan

516
00:25:28.039 --> 00:25:30.640
Coastal Sasquatch was Part one and two. I mean, I

517
00:25:30.680 --> 00:25:32.240
know on YouTube it's a part one and two, and

518
00:25:32.279 --> 00:25:34.839
you can find it under the Bigfoot Beyond the Trail series,

519
00:25:34.880 --> 00:25:37.359
I mean, for a couple other platforms I think it was.

520
00:25:37.839 --> 00:25:40.880
It's also on streaming. It's in two parts. But the

521
00:25:40.960 --> 00:25:43.920
second iteration, which was my second trip out there, is

522
00:25:43.960 --> 00:25:47.079
called The Dark Coast Hunt for the Alaskan Bigfoot, and

523
00:25:47.119 --> 00:25:50.400
that's a five part kind of mini series. Each episode's

524
00:25:50.519 --> 00:25:53.480
like over an hour and that it chronicles like our

525
00:25:53.559 --> 00:25:55.759
full two weeks out there and everything that went down.

526
00:25:55.799 --> 00:25:58.480
So it's very exhaustive in the sense that it's like

527
00:25:58.519 --> 00:26:01.119
a true boots on the ground invest aive series where

528
00:26:01.599 --> 00:26:03.359
you know, it's like, here's what we did days one

529
00:26:03.359 --> 00:26:05.960
and two, Like each episode is a couple of days

530
00:26:06.000 --> 00:26:08.680
and just everything that went on, even though there wasn't

531
00:26:08.720 --> 00:26:10.839
much and they were still we were collecting hair samples,

532
00:26:11.680 --> 00:26:14.759
you know, trying different kind of experiments and exploring different

533
00:26:14.799 --> 00:26:17.119
areas and that sort of stuff. And then the latest

534
00:26:17.440 --> 00:26:19.759
iteration is kind of like a callback to the first

535
00:26:19.759 --> 00:26:22.319
Alaskan Coast So it was a two part series on

536
00:26:23.279 --> 00:26:26.240
also part of the Beyond the Trail series. So that's

537
00:26:26.319 --> 00:26:29.440
kind of the where you can find that again YouTube

538
00:26:29.559 --> 00:26:33.319
Small Town Monsters if you go to like most watched

539
00:26:33.400 --> 00:26:35.400
video and small town Monsters. They'll be like the lastan

540
00:26:35.440 --> 00:26:38.039
Coast of Sasquatch Part one is the one that lays

541
00:26:38.039 --> 00:26:40.799
the whole groundwork, the backstory and everything, and then gets

542
00:26:40.799 --> 00:26:43.039
into the first half of our expedition and you should

543
00:26:43.039 --> 00:26:45.160
be able to find the rest pretty easily from there.

544
00:26:45.279 --> 00:26:50.880
But yeah, that's been definitely, you know, very interesting experience

545
00:26:50.880 --> 00:26:53.640
and a place that I've been very fortunate to go

546
00:26:53.960 --> 00:26:55.200
on quite a few occasions.

547
00:26:57.480 --> 00:27:00.680
Another thing that I enjoy when it comes out in

548
00:27:00.720 --> 00:27:06.079
your series, and it does every once in a while,

549
00:27:06.960 --> 00:27:12.880
is you are really into things like survival bushcraft. But

550
00:27:14.279 --> 00:27:18.839
I specifically love when you're cooking up the food at

551
00:27:18.880 --> 00:27:21.400
the fire. That is really cool. Do you have a

552
00:27:21.720 --> 00:27:25.319
go to you're out bigfooting, but you got to make

553
00:27:25.359 --> 00:27:27.119
a meal, but you don't just want to do a

554
00:27:27.160 --> 00:27:31.920
dehydrated thing. Do you have a go to that people

555
00:27:31.920 --> 00:27:32.599
could check out?

556
00:27:34.279 --> 00:27:36.319
You know, that's funny. A lot of people say that

557
00:27:36.359 --> 00:27:38.640
they like that, and we will get like people complaining

558
00:27:38.680 --> 00:27:40.599
about that, like, oh, you guys spend too much cook

559
00:27:40.640 --> 00:27:43.400
time cooking. I'm like, it's it's a three minute sequence

560
00:27:43.440 --> 00:27:45.839
within an hour documentary, Like if that's too much time.

561
00:27:45.880 --> 00:27:48.440
Then I'm sorry, you're you're You're like, I don't know

562
00:27:48.480 --> 00:27:50.279
what to tell you. But a lot of people say

563
00:27:50.279 --> 00:27:51.880
that I should do like some kind of cookbook, and

564
00:27:51.960 --> 00:27:54.559
I'm believe me, I'm not like a big cooking person,

565
00:27:54.640 --> 00:27:56.920
you know, like I have my go to things. But

566
00:27:58.079 --> 00:27:59.440
as you mentioned, you know, when you're in the woods,

567
00:27:59.440 --> 00:28:02.119
you can only eat so many dehydrated either an MRI

568
00:28:02.440 --> 00:28:04.640
or like a mountain house meal. I mean a lot

569
00:28:04.640 --> 00:28:07.319
of times when we're backpacking, you know, like we spend

570
00:28:07.319 --> 00:28:10.599
time at Ape Canyon, you know, three days, Like you're

571
00:28:10.720 --> 00:28:12.960
five six miles up in the back country. You've got

572
00:28:13.000 --> 00:28:15.319
a lug with's lightweight, so you're bringing the d hydro

573
00:28:15.359 --> 00:28:18.119
and stuff. But if you're camping, you know car camping,

574
00:28:18.480 --> 00:28:19.720
or in an area where you can get to the

575
00:28:19.799 --> 00:28:23.160
vehicle or a boat, like might as well step your

576
00:28:23.160 --> 00:28:26.799
game up. I'd say, like classic go to for camping

577
00:28:26.960 --> 00:28:30.240
is probably just like a burger. Honestly, that's really it's

578
00:28:30.359 --> 00:28:33.880
easy to do when you're camping. It's nothing like a

579
00:28:33.880 --> 00:28:36.880
delicious burger. After you've been hiking all day, throw an

580
00:28:36.920 --> 00:28:40.039
egg on there, get some extra protein, like all about

581
00:28:40.079 --> 00:28:42.160
the protein that kind of stuff. But I would also

582
00:28:42.200 --> 00:28:44.680
like a breakfast sandwich too. I know a lot of

583
00:28:44.720 --> 00:28:47.720
people skip breakfast nowadays. I typically don't really breakfast when

584
00:28:47.720 --> 00:28:50.799
I'm at home. I just go for like a bigger lunch.

585
00:28:51.599 --> 00:28:53.640
But when you're out in the woods and exploring all day,

586
00:28:54.119 --> 00:28:56.160
you can't start your day in empty stomachs and like

587
00:28:56.279 --> 00:29:00.640
nothing like a nice good egg, cheese of your choice

588
00:29:00.680 --> 00:29:04.599
breakfast sandwich. They just taste better in the woods. I

589
00:29:04.640 --> 00:29:07.920
don't know, like there's something about it, right, like good,

590
00:29:08.039 --> 00:29:10.359
good way to fuel up more satisfying when you're out

591
00:29:10.359 --> 00:29:10.880
in the woods.

592
00:29:11.559 --> 00:29:15.200
So you must have like a some kind of cooler

593
00:29:15.480 --> 00:29:18.960
with you in the car because you're not you're not

594
00:29:19.119 --> 00:29:23.720
hiking in like burgers and eggs, right where are you?

595
00:29:23.720 --> 00:29:25.640
No, I don't. Maybe we've done I don't. I'm trying

596
00:29:25.680 --> 00:29:28.519
to think there's so many like different trips. I'm probably

597
00:29:28.519 --> 00:29:30.519
conflating stuff now, But yeah, a lot of times, like

598
00:29:30.519 --> 00:29:32.359
if you're if we're in some national forest or some

599
00:29:32.440 --> 00:29:34.680
area and we can drive in, obviously you know you

600
00:29:34.759 --> 00:29:37.559
got a cooler. It's just going to be easier that way,

601
00:29:37.640 --> 00:29:39.759
you know, especially like in the lower forty eight, Like

602
00:29:39.799 --> 00:29:42.640
there's a lot of places in eastern US and even

603
00:29:42.640 --> 00:29:45.359
in the western US, like Bluff Creek, right, we spend

604
00:29:45.359 --> 00:29:48.279
a week at Bluff Creek and we drive in, so

605
00:29:48.319 --> 00:29:50.319
we have luckily we can have a lot more resources

606
00:29:50.359 --> 00:29:52.079
than we would but even like going to area A

607
00:29:52.359 --> 00:29:54.400
like you take a boat over there, so we do

608
00:29:54.480 --> 00:29:56.319
have the ability, and you know, we have some power

609
00:29:56.359 --> 00:29:58.920
there too with solar power, so we're able to actually

610
00:29:58.920 --> 00:30:00.640
you know, have a lot of the entities, which is

611
00:30:00.680 --> 00:30:03.480
really nice because a lot of the times we're really

612
00:30:03.559 --> 00:30:05.079
rough in it on these trips. I mean, like when

613
00:30:05.079 --> 00:30:08.240
you're backpacking six miles into the back country again, you

614
00:30:08.440 --> 00:30:12.440
really have to You're not only do you have your

615
00:30:12.559 --> 00:30:15.319
your survival gear everything you need, your tent, all, your

616
00:30:15.440 --> 00:30:19.400
your sleeping bag. Everything adds element of weight, usually gets colder,

617
00:30:19.440 --> 00:30:21.680
so you got to think about layers and being prepared.

618
00:30:22.119 --> 00:30:25.640
Then you've got your filmmaking gear. Obviously I'm out there

619
00:30:25.720 --> 00:30:28.319
doing video, so I'm carrying multiple cameras and stuff like

620
00:30:28.359 --> 00:30:30.200
that with me. And then you have your your like

621
00:30:30.240 --> 00:30:33.319
your big footing gear, right, your your your other equipment

622
00:30:33.359 --> 00:30:35.400
you know whether or not you're like thermals and stuff

623
00:30:35.440 --> 00:30:38.000
like that that the average hiker probably is not bringing

624
00:30:38.079 --> 00:30:40.240
up so you're bringing up more weight. So then when

625
00:30:40.279 --> 00:30:42.160
you want to get to food, it's like the easiest,

626
00:30:42.200 --> 00:30:44.519
most tempting option. I'm looking over at my closet because

627
00:30:44.519 --> 00:30:47.359
I have a whole bunch of MRIs and like Mountain

628
00:30:47.359 --> 00:30:50.279
House meals sitting on my shelf and I'm getting ready

629
00:30:50.279 --> 00:30:52.279
to pack them up for an upcoming trip. So it's

630
00:30:52.319 --> 00:30:55.039
like that that stuff you know I usually keep as

631
00:30:55.079 --> 00:30:58.680
like a reserve. When you're you can drive somewhere car camp,

632
00:30:58.880 --> 00:31:00.759
you know, you can buy fresh You would eat that

633
00:31:00.839 --> 00:31:03.119
first and then go for the freeze dried stuff after,

634
00:31:03.519 --> 00:31:05.599
because it's it's fine, like the freeze dried stuff and

635
00:31:05.640 --> 00:31:08.960
the mrs they have a time and place, and I

636
00:31:09.000 --> 00:31:10.680
think they really only taste good when you're out in

637
00:31:10.680 --> 00:31:11.960
the woods, because if you try to eat one of

638
00:31:12.000 --> 00:31:14.000
those at home, you might just be like what am

639
00:31:14.039 --> 00:31:17.119
I doing here? Yeah, And you know they maybe don't

640
00:31:17.119 --> 00:31:20.480
have the best effect on your body either, but in

641
00:31:20.480 --> 00:31:23.119
a time of need, it doesn't matter. Again, Like just

642
00:31:23.200 --> 00:31:24.839
an example I'm thinking of, you know, off the top

643
00:31:24.880 --> 00:31:27.119
of my mind, we were at a canyon a couple

644
00:31:27.119 --> 00:31:29.160
of years ago here, and you know, I had to

645
00:31:29.160 --> 00:31:31.000
bring just a whole bunch of freeze dried food because

646
00:31:31.000 --> 00:31:33.039
it's almost no weight. And if I had taken that

647
00:31:33.079 --> 00:31:35.400
same amount of food I hadn't freeze, you know, like

648
00:31:35.440 --> 00:31:37.880
for freeze dried foods, it would have been probably like

649
00:31:37.880 --> 00:31:40.079
a ridiculous amount of weight with like fresh foods. And

650
00:31:40.160 --> 00:31:42.599
you know the risk of cracking eggs hiking up a mountain,

651
00:31:42.799 --> 00:31:44.319
like you don't want to have to do that.

652
00:31:44.400 --> 00:31:50.440
So absolutely, I guess hats off to if you are

653
00:31:50.519 --> 00:31:53.240
doing that, but most people are not going to do that.

654
00:31:55.079 --> 00:31:59.039
Do you feel like you have had a visual visual

655
00:31:59.079 --> 00:31:59.759
of a bigfoot?

656
00:31:59.799 --> 00:32:00.000
Yeah?

657
00:32:00.240 --> 00:32:02.720
And if not, what do you think the closest that

658
00:32:02.759 --> 00:32:04.519
you've been to one has been.

659
00:32:04.720 --> 00:32:06.960
I can't. Yeah, I can't say I've had a visual.

660
00:32:07.039 --> 00:32:09.640
I've had a lot of I can't say, you know,

661
00:32:10.759 --> 00:32:13.119
necessarily a visual, but I have had things that have

662
00:32:13.200 --> 00:32:15.799
happened that are like interesting enough, And I can't say

663
00:32:16.160 --> 00:32:18.720
if the preface you know, it's not I'm not saying

664
00:32:18.720 --> 00:32:21.559
in sasquatch, but I've had some weird experiences that kind

665
00:32:21.559 --> 00:32:25.839
of fit the purported behavior of sasquatches. So we're talking

666
00:32:25.880 --> 00:32:30.440
like rock throws, wooden knocks, whoops, vocalizations, that sort of stuff.

667
00:32:30.640 --> 00:32:33.000
I've had quite a few of those, and those can

668
00:32:33.000 --> 00:32:35.000
be ambiguous. There are certain times where, like you know,

669
00:32:35.039 --> 00:32:38.839
you get like the thing in Alaska was rocks sounds

670
00:32:38.839 --> 00:32:41.319
like rocks are being thrown, and there's you know, a

671
00:32:41.480 --> 00:32:44.519
wood knocking kind of weird, very distinct element to it.

672
00:32:45.039 --> 00:32:48.079
I don't know what that is, right, But if if

673
00:32:48.119 --> 00:32:50.960
these things are some kind of a species, which they

674
00:32:51.039 --> 00:32:52.799
I mean there, you know, I don't think there's very

675
00:32:52.839 --> 00:32:55.400
many people who still think there's like one sasquatch, right,

676
00:32:55.519 --> 00:32:57.920
one bigfoot that's kind of like the old easter bunny

677
00:32:57.960 --> 00:33:00.599
sort of a way of looking looking at it. But

678
00:33:00.759 --> 00:33:02.960
there's some kind of species whatever they are. There's a

679
00:33:02.960 --> 00:33:05.640
lot of theories obviously, but if there are some kind

680
00:33:05.640 --> 00:33:08.759
of species, they have certain behaviors that they exhibit, like

681
00:33:08.799 --> 00:33:12.559
all species do. Humans do things similarly wherever we are,

682
00:33:13.440 --> 00:33:15.519
other animals do too, like so there are certain things

683
00:33:15.559 --> 00:33:17.640
that are reported time and time again and have been

684
00:33:17.680 --> 00:33:19.559
for I would say hundreds of years at this point

685
00:33:19.799 --> 00:33:22.920
in North America. They're like behavior. So some of the

686
00:33:22.960 --> 00:33:26.519
stuff I've experienced maybe fits some of that can't prove it,

687
00:33:26.720 --> 00:33:29.640
but you know, as is so often with this subject,

688
00:33:30.039 --> 00:33:34.880
it's very anecdotal. So that's kind of in my kind

689
00:33:34.880 --> 00:33:37.920
of estimation. There's one time in Kentucky where I saw

690
00:33:38.000 --> 00:33:41.640
something weird on a thermal but like, I'm still very

691
00:33:41.680 --> 00:33:45.440
shaky about that. It was I think it was also

692
00:33:45.440 --> 00:33:48.240
in twenty twenty two, I want to say, and I

693
00:33:48.880 --> 00:33:50.640
saw this thing on this hill. I went to this

694
00:33:50.839 --> 00:33:53.440
active research or not active research area and area that

695
00:33:53.519 --> 00:33:56.319
has had history of sightings over the years. There's even

696
00:33:56.359 --> 00:34:00.680
a Monster Quest episode there film like over decade before

697
00:34:00.680 --> 00:34:04.240
I went there, where a bioacoustics professor had rocks thrown

698
00:34:04.240 --> 00:34:06.599
at him. He heard it and they got it on

699
00:34:06.720 --> 00:34:10.679
video and it was kind of freaked out and my

700
00:34:10.840 --> 00:34:13.360
cat is going to be voicing his opinion in the background.

701
00:34:13.440 --> 00:34:17.239
You may hear some of me owling. I went to

702
00:34:17.239 --> 00:34:20.360
this location based off of what this local researcher had

703
00:34:20.400 --> 00:34:22.480
told me, and he goes in there solo just does

704
00:34:22.559 --> 00:34:25.199
red light stuff and he hears kind of stuff going on.

705
00:34:25.280 --> 00:34:27.880
So I went out there one night and it was

706
00:34:27.960 --> 00:34:30.960
like I was right before Thanksgiving. It was actually after Cryptocon.

707
00:34:31.159 --> 00:34:33.519
I believe that was the same Crypticon I saw you at.

708
00:34:33.920 --> 00:34:35.559
Oh yeah, sure, yeah a few years back.

709
00:34:35.639 --> 00:34:38.119
Yep, yeah, a few years back. I'm pretty sure that

710
00:34:38.159 --> 00:34:39.679
was when we were both at because I think that

711
00:34:39.760 --> 00:34:42.039
was the last one I went to, maybe twenty twenty

712
00:34:42.079 --> 00:34:44.280
two or twenty twenty three, either way, it doesn't matter.

713
00:34:44.320 --> 00:34:47.599
It was around that time period. And I go out

714
00:34:47.639 --> 00:34:50.840
there and it was like ridiculously cold fall in November,

715
00:34:50.920 --> 00:34:52.760
especially for that part of Kentucky. It's kind of like

716
00:34:53.159 --> 00:34:57.360
southern Kentucky Ish southern Central and it's like a wildlife

717
00:34:57.400 --> 00:35:02.480
management area. But it was like fifteen to fifteen twenty

718
00:35:02.519 --> 00:35:04.320
degrees like, it was very cold out. And I'm from

719
00:35:04.320 --> 00:35:07.360
the northeast. I'm from New Hampshire. You know, cold doesn't

720
00:35:07.360 --> 00:35:09.199
phaze me all that much. I might not like it,

721
00:35:09.280 --> 00:35:12.039
but this was just very cold to be out there

722
00:35:12.079 --> 00:35:13.760
for like a sustained period of time. So I was

723
00:35:13.800 --> 00:35:16.920
going out alone into this area and I heard this

724
00:35:17.079 --> 00:35:19.639
kind of distinct wood knock at one point while I

725
00:35:19.679 --> 00:35:22.239
was over by this this creek. It didn't sound like

726
00:35:22.280 --> 00:35:25.239
a gunshot. It was just like a straight up kind

727
00:35:25.280 --> 00:35:27.239
of really distinct sort of knock. And I was like, Okay,

728
00:35:27.239 --> 00:35:29.880
that's interesting. So I was scanning in my thermal and

729
00:35:29.880 --> 00:35:31.719
I'm out there alone, and sometimes when you're alone, it's

730
00:35:31.719 --> 00:35:34.960
not fun, Like you're definitely more on edge because you're

731
00:35:35.039 --> 00:35:36.519
kind of like, oh my god, what am I hearing?

732
00:35:36.559 --> 00:35:39.639
What's going on? Yeah, you're more aware than maybe you

733
00:35:39.679 --> 00:35:43.000
are when you're with another person, So I would say

734
00:35:43.039 --> 00:35:46.760
your senses are heightened. And I hear this knock and

735
00:35:46.760 --> 00:35:48.039
I kind of stay around there for a little bit,

736
00:35:48.039 --> 00:35:49.679
and then I start getting really cold, and I'm like,

737
00:35:49.719 --> 00:35:51.480
I'm going to go back to the car at a

738
00:35:51.519 --> 00:35:54.639
rental car. I'm going to hike back there and like

739
00:35:54.719 --> 00:35:56.840
warm up for five ten minutes and then come back

740
00:35:56.840 --> 00:35:59.440
out here. And as I'm walking back in this field,

741
00:35:59.480 --> 00:36:01.119
I look up on this hill with this thermal. I

742
00:36:01.119 --> 00:36:04.039
see this like big object on the thermal. And the

743
00:36:04.039 --> 00:36:06.320
thermal I was using was a pulsar HELLI in two.

744
00:36:06.719 --> 00:36:09.760
It's a pretty advanced thermal. And I see this kind

745
00:36:09.800 --> 00:36:11.639
of large object in the hill and I'm like, oh, man,

746
00:36:11.719 --> 00:36:15.159
let's look at the size of that rock. Yeah, he

747
00:36:15.239 --> 00:36:21.679
agrees the categories. I see this this object, And what

748
00:36:21.760 --> 00:36:25.360
happens a lot of time with thermals is trees and

749
00:36:25.480 --> 00:36:27.239
rocks that have been in the sun all day can

750
00:36:27.480 --> 00:36:31.159
exert like a ridiculous amount of heat on a thermal.

751
00:36:31.880 --> 00:36:33.440
This was like the only thing I could see on

752
00:36:33.719 --> 00:36:35.480
this hill and it was pretty far away from me, like, man,

753
00:36:35.480 --> 00:36:38.039
that's a big rock. It was weird. It wasn't like

754
00:36:38.159 --> 00:36:40.000
upright or anything. It was kind of just like a

755
00:36:41.760 --> 00:36:43.559
It wasn't really horizontal. It was just sort of like

756
00:36:43.559 --> 00:36:45.719
this kind of I wouldn't say a blob, but it

757
00:36:45.760 --> 00:36:48.760
was like definitely an object. I kept looking at it,

758
00:36:48.760 --> 00:36:50.519
and I was getting cold, and I'm looking at him, like, ah,

759
00:36:50.559 --> 00:36:53.199
it's probably just a rock. So I go back into

760
00:36:53.199 --> 00:36:54.840
the car to warm up, and I come back out

761
00:36:54.840 --> 00:36:57.280
and it's completely gone. Like I'm scanning the same area,

762
00:36:57.320 --> 00:37:00.880
and I'm like, Okay, that's kind of interesting, Like was

763
00:37:00.920 --> 00:37:03.719
it a deer? Was it a bear? Apparently bear are

764
00:37:03.719 --> 00:37:06.599
pretty rare in that part of Kentucky. Also was very cold.

765
00:37:07.199 --> 00:37:10.079
I'd be surprised if a bear was out there that

766
00:37:10.119 --> 00:37:12.320
time of year. Not unheard of, but it was a

767
00:37:12.360 --> 00:37:14.920
little bit unusual. So that was like a weird one

768
00:37:14.960 --> 00:37:17.679
because I don't think I realized that if I just

769
00:37:17.760 --> 00:37:20.639
kept my thermal on that object, maybe I would have

770
00:37:20.639 --> 00:37:22.760
seen it. But also it was so cold, and I

771
00:37:22.800 --> 00:37:25.079
actually end up going back there a year later, and

772
00:37:25.079 --> 00:37:28.599
I went out with the sky Charlie Raymond Kentucky Bigfoot

773
00:37:28.679 --> 00:37:32.159
research guy, and we did like a recreation of it.

774
00:37:32.280 --> 00:37:34.079
I actually had him go up on that hill and

775
00:37:34.119 --> 00:37:36.840
it was the same time a year actually, it was

776
00:37:37.119 --> 00:37:38.920
early November, not endo November, but it was a lot

777
00:37:38.960 --> 00:37:41.559
warmer when I went out that year afterwards and I

778
00:37:41.599 --> 00:37:43.559
had Charlie go up this hill. I like hiked him

779
00:37:43.599 --> 00:37:45.559
up there across the creek. I'd get him up this

780
00:37:45.599 --> 00:37:47.519
hill and I'm like, this is around the area, and

781
00:37:47.559 --> 00:37:49.400
then I went back down to the field in the

782
00:37:49.400 --> 00:37:52.639
car so I could do like a recreation and he

783
00:37:52.679 --> 00:37:55.239
looked a lot smaller than the object, and you can

784
00:37:55.320 --> 00:37:57.400
kind of tell like his head and shoulders, you could

785
00:37:57.480 --> 00:37:59.400
kind of see them on the thermal. And I think

786
00:37:59.440 --> 00:38:01.280
on that same t I did see deer go up

787
00:38:01.320 --> 00:38:03.559
in that same area, but it didn't quite look like

788
00:38:03.599 --> 00:38:06.880
that other object. So again, it wasn't an upright object.

789
00:38:07.440 --> 00:38:09.599
It was just like this. I don't know it was.

790
00:38:09.679 --> 00:38:11.559
It was weird. I can't say one way or another.

791
00:38:11.559 --> 00:38:13.239
Maybe it just was a deer. I don't know, but

792
00:38:13.719 --> 00:38:17.079
I know that thermal pretty well, and that's that's what

793
00:38:17.159 --> 00:38:19.239
kind of was weird. Was My initial thought was like, wow,

794
00:38:19.320 --> 00:38:21.960
look at the size of that rock. And it's like,

795
00:38:22.280 --> 00:38:24.440
I guess I didn't notice it earlier or whatever. It

796
00:38:24.519 --> 00:38:26.800
was just weird because there was that knock that happened

797
00:38:28.320 --> 00:38:30.480
ten minutes before I saw that object, but the knock

798
00:38:30.559 --> 00:38:33.880
was further off to the right, like down the creek.

799
00:38:35.400 --> 00:38:37.400
But from what I've learned, that area has had quite

800
00:38:37.400 --> 00:38:40.719
a few encounters. Like I said, Monster Quest, I think

801
00:38:40.719 --> 00:38:42.800
it was the Hillbilly Beast episode if you want to

802
00:38:42.800 --> 00:38:45.000
go check that one out, that's the one that had

803
00:38:45.039 --> 00:38:48.440
this segment featured in with his bioacoustics professor. And then

804
00:38:48.559 --> 00:38:50.840
I've just heard of multiple other researchers have told me

805
00:38:50.880 --> 00:38:55.079
about encounters in that same area over the years, so

806
00:38:55.119 --> 00:38:57.519
that that was like, again, I can't say that's a visual.

807
00:38:57.559 --> 00:39:00.519
That was just a weird one. I'm hoping and get

808
00:39:00.559 --> 00:39:03.840
something more definitive at some point, obviously, like who isn't

809
00:39:03.880 --> 00:39:05.360
at this point, you know, if you're out there looking

810
00:39:05.440 --> 00:39:08.440
like you want to get something interesting, that kind of

811
00:39:08.480 --> 00:39:11.079
confirms it because I've talked to enough people that I

812
00:39:11.119 --> 00:39:13.159
do think that there really is something out there, Like

813
00:39:13.199 --> 00:39:15.800
I've got some very credible folks that I've talked to

814
00:39:16.760 --> 00:39:19.599
because I'm sure, you know, talking to witnesses over the years,

815
00:39:19.599 --> 00:39:22.599
you know, hundreds of them. There's some that are just

816
00:39:22.639 --> 00:39:24.920
so compelling, like I just don't know why a person

817
00:39:25.039 --> 00:39:28.480
like this would make a story up that they really

818
00:39:28.480 --> 00:39:30.760
have nothing to gain from it. A lot of cases, right,

819
00:39:31.239 --> 00:39:34.639
they're just makes you wonder. And sometimes some of that,

820
00:39:34.719 --> 00:39:37.880
especially up here in the Northeast, people spent like ten

821
00:39:38.039 --> 00:39:39.920
fifteen years ag when I first got into it, people

822
00:39:39.920 --> 00:39:42.400
were much more tight lipped. Now Bigfoot's kind of everywhere

823
00:39:42.440 --> 00:39:45.119
and it's a little more I wouldn't say easier, but

824
00:39:45.119 --> 00:39:46.920
it's people are a little more comfortable than they were

825
00:39:47.079 --> 00:39:48.960
even when I first started up here in the Northeast

826
00:39:48.960 --> 00:39:50.920
in New Hampshire. It's like, man, I really had to

827
00:39:50.960 --> 00:39:53.239
get some of these people, like I had to bend

828
00:39:53.239 --> 00:39:54.920
over backwards to get them to trust me before they

829
00:39:54.960 --> 00:39:56.480
even told me their story. I'm like, well, why would

830
00:39:56.519 --> 00:39:58.599
they then make this story up if they're like they're

831
00:39:58.639 --> 00:40:01.119
not going to tell anyone and they just sit there

832
00:40:01.840 --> 00:40:04.760
stewing on it and likes, it's clearly as traumatized them,

833
00:40:04.840 --> 00:40:07.679
Like why what do they have to gain by making

834
00:40:07.719 --> 00:40:09.760
up a story like this? You know, like it doesn't

835
00:40:09.760 --> 00:40:10.599
make any sense to me?

836
00:40:11.320 --> 00:40:15.239
No, I agree, with you. I also listeners will know

837
00:40:15.280 --> 00:40:19.320
I grew up in New England as well, or I'm

838
00:40:19.360 --> 00:40:21.800
originally from there. I grew up there in Western mass

839
00:40:21.920 --> 00:40:28.079
and New Hampshire is really starting to come out of

840
00:40:28.079 --> 00:40:32.280
the woodwork with bigfoot stuff. People are reaching out in

841
00:40:32.360 --> 00:40:36.280
southern Maine two and when you know twenty let's see,

842
00:40:36.679 --> 00:40:39.480
well twenty thirty years ago when I was out there, Yeah,

843
00:40:39.519 --> 00:40:41.559
you would not hear the word bigfoot. Maybe you'd hear

844
00:40:41.599 --> 00:40:45.000
about coy dogs, but you wouldn't hear about bigfoot. People

845
00:40:45.280 --> 00:40:46.559
just did not want to talk about it.

846
00:40:46.639 --> 00:40:46.960
Alex.

847
00:40:47.199 --> 00:40:49.400
Another question I want to ask you, has there been

848
00:40:49.440 --> 00:40:52.519
a time when you've been out on one of these

849
00:40:52.519 --> 00:40:58.320
shoots and you're in the middle of something and you're

850
00:40:58.360 --> 00:41:02.960
realizing this could go really bad, really quick. And I've

851
00:41:03.000 --> 00:41:06.840
been in some of those already and it's some horrifying stuff.

852
00:41:07.079 --> 00:41:10.440
You've got to have something happened along the way where

853
00:41:10.440 --> 00:41:14.039
you're like, Okay, time to focus or I might not

854
00:41:14.079 --> 00:41:15.119
be getting out of this one.

855
00:41:17.199 --> 00:41:19.480
Yeah. That's a good question, man. I mean, I've I've

856
00:41:19.480 --> 00:41:21.800
done a lot of like backcountry stuff over the years,

857
00:41:21.800 --> 00:41:27.199
even before you know I started filming this series. There's

858
00:41:27.239 --> 00:41:30.039
moments you know that, like there's never a moment I've

859
00:41:30.039 --> 00:41:34.719
been afraid of, like sasquatch or something like that. Like

860
00:41:34.960 --> 00:41:37.360
there's never I mean honestly, when stuff starts happening, I

861
00:41:37.440 --> 00:41:40.800
get excited, like something that might freak other people out,

862
00:41:40.840 --> 00:41:43.360
Like I'm like, oh my, this is it, Like let's go,

863
00:41:43.519 --> 00:41:45.840
Like I'm ready to go if I'm not caught off guard,

864
00:41:45.880 --> 00:41:49.360
but usually i am. But I would say more like

865
00:41:49.400 --> 00:41:52.480
the more dangerous or weird situations have been like non

866
00:41:52.599 --> 00:41:56.039
Bigfoot related stuff, you know. I mean there's times who

867
00:41:56.039 --> 00:41:57.679
are out in the woods and you again we talk

868
00:41:57.719 --> 00:42:00.440
about like the risk factor of Alaska, like that when

869
00:42:00.480 --> 00:42:04.000
the kayak fell over, or like we're you know, two

870
00:42:04.039 --> 00:42:06.559
miles in and there's you're just soaking wet and it's

871
00:42:06.559 --> 00:42:09.320
getting cold, and you're like, man, this could become very

872
00:42:09.400 --> 00:42:11.880
dangerous very soon. Luckily we've got a cabin to go

873
00:42:11.960 --> 00:42:14.159
back to we can warm up in. You know, imagine

874
00:42:14.199 --> 00:42:15.559
if we're just out here rough in it, we would

875
00:42:15.639 --> 00:42:18.440
have to you know, get going. I've been in situations

876
00:42:18.480 --> 00:42:19.719
like that before, where like you have to get a

877
00:42:19.719 --> 00:42:21.639
fire and a shelter going. Within half an hour, people

878
00:42:21.679 --> 00:42:24.599
start getting hypothermic, you know. I did some survival training

879
00:42:24.639 --> 00:42:27.719
back in the day and like naturalism training, and we

880
00:42:27.719 --> 00:42:30.800
were putting those kind of scenarios very interesting kind of

881
00:42:30.800 --> 00:42:33.639
see how see what you're made of? Some of the

882
00:42:33.639 --> 00:42:37.199
weirdest situations, specifically bigfoot be on the trail. And again

883
00:42:37.239 --> 00:42:39.159
I say it, I probably said this multiple times. There's

884
00:42:39.199 --> 00:42:41.639
been so many I'm trying to like draw from all

885
00:42:41.719 --> 00:42:43.719
the different I mean, we've been all over the all

886
00:42:43.760 --> 00:42:46.000
over North America at this point. There's been a couple

887
00:42:46.039 --> 00:42:48.239
of people related situations that were a little bit weird.

888
00:42:48.519 --> 00:42:53.000
You know, there was one specifically in the Everglade. So

889
00:42:53.079 --> 00:42:55.760
there's there's actually two kind of weird. One was weird

890
00:42:55.800 --> 00:42:59.199
in the other. But those are a few people, including

891
00:42:59.239 --> 00:43:03.599
Taitonymous who you know. And we were out in this

892
00:43:03.840 --> 00:43:06.960
area of the Big Cypress National Preserve and it's like

893
00:43:07.000 --> 00:43:09.920
two in the morning. We're walking. There's nobody else camping

894
00:43:09.920 --> 00:43:11.920
where we're at. We're in this like campground area, but

895
00:43:11.920 --> 00:43:15.039
it's a very remote area. And if you look at

896
00:43:15.039 --> 00:43:16.639
the Big Cypress on a map, I mean, it's like

897
00:43:16.679 --> 00:43:18.760
the size of the state of Rhode Island. It's a huge,

898
00:43:18.920 --> 00:43:21.079
huge area, and that ever relates, it's just millions of

899
00:43:21.159 --> 00:43:24.840
acres plus you know, these other habitats. We're down this

900
00:43:24.920 --> 00:43:26.960
crazy road and like we're just hiking around, you know,

901
00:43:27.079 --> 00:43:28.760
doing our thing with thermals, and all of a sudden,

902
00:43:28.840 --> 00:43:31.599
like we hear this car come like flying out of

903
00:43:31.599 --> 00:43:34.840
the there's this road and I don't remember how long

904
00:43:34.840 --> 00:43:38.119
the road is, but from a Chopee to like this

905
00:43:38.199 --> 00:43:40.960
Bear Island campground. I mean it's like this one straight

906
00:43:41.039 --> 00:43:43.679
road that goes on for like forty minutes. You can

907
00:43:43.719 --> 00:43:46.559
literally see a car coming from all the way at

908
00:43:46.599 --> 00:43:48.920
the end with the headlights and it takes like thirty

909
00:43:48.920 --> 00:43:50.440
minutes for it to get to you. It's a very weird,

910
00:43:50.480 --> 00:43:52.960
surreal kind of feeling. Maybe you guys in the Midwest

911
00:43:53.000 --> 00:43:55.239
know like those straight roads like that, but here in

912
00:43:55.239 --> 00:43:57.880
New England, you know, we got hills and go on tour.

913
00:43:58.079 --> 00:44:01.360
But anyway, there, we're right near the corner where you

914
00:44:01.400 --> 00:44:04.079
turn in to get into this like campground area. We

915
00:44:04.199 --> 00:44:07.840
just see this car like come flying through and we're like, oh,

916
00:44:07.880 --> 00:44:10.239
what the heck. We decide to all go run into

917
00:44:10.280 --> 00:44:12.119
the bushes and kind of crouch and we've got our

918
00:44:12.119 --> 00:44:14.679
thermals and they come to a screeching halt and this

919
00:44:14.760 --> 00:44:16.679
man and this woman get out and they start arguing,

920
00:44:16.719 --> 00:44:19.920
and we couldn't really hear what they're arguing about, Like

921
00:44:20.239 --> 00:44:23.280
why would you be driving down this super remote road,

922
00:44:24.159 --> 00:44:26.400
Like I don't think they were up to good to

923
00:44:26.519 --> 00:44:28.079
so to speak, right, Like I think they had a

924
00:44:28.079 --> 00:44:29.920
dog with them too, I remember, because we're all like

925
00:44:30.000 --> 00:44:31.920
hiding in the bushes kind of creeping on them with thermals,

926
00:44:31.920 --> 00:44:34.440
which sounds silly, but you don't know what people are

927
00:44:34.440 --> 00:44:37.159
capable of out there in the woods. Unfortunately, that was

928
00:44:37.199 --> 00:44:40.079
just a weird one where like Okay, but another time

929
00:44:40.119 --> 00:44:42.719
in a different area that South Florida was out there

930
00:44:42.760 --> 00:44:45.280
with Tate also and we're like looking at alligator prints

931
00:44:45.280 --> 00:44:48.000
in this really cool area, and all of a sudden,

932
00:44:48.039 --> 00:44:52.679
like these humbies and these swamp buggies start driving through,

933
00:44:52.719 --> 00:44:56.960
and there's all these like Central American looking dudes like

934
00:44:57.000 --> 00:45:00.320
with backpacks and gear and like all this stuff, and

935
00:45:00.360 --> 00:45:02.400
like we're in the middle of like all like state

936
00:45:02.639 --> 00:45:06.199
preserve and National preserve lands like all side by side,

937
00:45:06.239 --> 00:45:07.599
and it was an area we couldn't even get through

938
00:45:07.599 --> 00:45:09.039
with the g but all of a sudden, there's like

939
00:45:09.679 --> 00:45:11.719
these humbies and then there's these swamp buggies and all

940
00:45:11.760 --> 00:45:13.440
these dudes in it, and they're just like waving at us.

941
00:45:13.519 --> 00:45:16.719
We're just standing there like what is going on here?

942
00:45:16.719 --> 00:45:19.800
And we're only like six miles from the Gulf of Mexico,

943
00:45:19.840 --> 00:45:22.440
Gulf of America, whatever you want to call it the ocean, right,

944
00:45:22.800 --> 00:45:26.199
Like We're just kind of like, is this smuggling? Like

945
00:45:26.400 --> 00:45:28.960
it was very strange. I don't know how to explain

946
00:45:29.000 --> 00:45:31.119
it if I had to guess I had something to

947
00:45:31.119 --> 00:45:33.679
do with like Florida's citrus industry, but like, why are

948
00:45:33.679 --> 00:45:38.199
they in this crazy flooded terrain going with humbies and

949
00:45:38.280 --> 00:45:41.280
swamp buggies and and and then a helicopter came over

950
00:45:41.880 --> 00:45:44.440
like nearby after that, like right after they passed us,

951
00:45:44.679 --> 00:45:47.360
a helicopter came by, So I'm like, did we just

952
00:45:47.519 --> 00:45:49.440
witness something? And then the same day I believe, we

953
00:45:49.519 --> 00:45:52.960
ran into some Florida Wildlife Commission officers who had like

954
00:45:53.039 --> 00:45:56.440
full vests on and with like you know, rifle load

955
00:45:56.440 --> 00:45:59.400
outs and stuff. And they had been deputized, I guess

956
00:45:59.400 --> 00:46:00.880
by the Governor of Florida. And that was the time

957
00:46:00.880 --> 00:46:03.159
where there was like some stuff going on in Key

958
00:46:03.199 --> 00:46:05.760
West where there was like people from Cuba coming over.

959
00:46:06.679 --> 00:46:08.320
So I don't know what that was about, Like, I

960
00:46:08.320 --> 00:46:10.360
have no idea. It was just the most like the

961
00:46:10.519 --> 00:46:13.199
last thing on earth you would expect when you're so

962
00:46:13.360 --> 00:46:15.239
far back in an area you can only get into

963
00:46:15.320 --> 00:46:18.280
with a jeep, you're looking at wildlife and alligator prints.

964
00:46:18.360 --> 00:46:20.840
You know, we're an area that had like alleged skuncave sightings,

965
00:46:21.599 --> 00:46:23.079
and we're like what is that? And you just see

966
00:46:23.079 --> 00:46:26.400
these vehicles coming towards you and there's like five six

967
00:46:26.480 --> 00:46:28.840
humvs Three four of these big swamp buggies and like

968
00:46:28.920 --> 00:46:31.320
dozens of these dudes and they all had like backpacks

969
00:46:31.320 --> 00:46:35.199
and you know, like clothing like fully not fully like

970
00:46:35.280 --> 00:46:37.320
fully clothed in long sleeves. And even though we're in

971
00:46:37.320 --> 00:46:41.239
South Florida and we're like, okay, that was that was

972
00:46:41.280 --> 00:46:43.800
an experience. We didn't feel like threatened, but I'm like, man,

973
00:46:43.840 --> 00:46:46.119
I'm rea about to you know, what's going to happen?

974
00:46:46.480 --> 00:46:47.599
Like what is going on?

975
00:46:48.280 --> 00:46:53.280
So that was And this was a couple of times ago, right, sorry,

976
00:46:53.599 --> 00:46:55.559
this is years ago, right OX, Yeah, this is a

977
00:46:55.559 --> 00:46:55.840
couple of.

978
00:46:55.880 --> 00:46:58.559
Years ago, twenty twenty three. Maybe there's been a couple

979
00:46:58.559 --> 00:47:01.360
other times where like there was one specifically where I

980
00:47:01.400 --> 00:47:03.360
was camp near Mount Saint Helen's with a friend of

981
00:47:03.400 --> 00:47:05.559
mine and there was like a really we were in

982
00:47:05.559 --> 00:47:08.719
this area where you'd had some encounters and there was

983
00:47:08.760 --> 00:47:10.280
this campground next to us, and like a bunch of

984
00:47:10.320 --> 00:47:12.679
these people showed up and were like partying, and at

985
00:47:12.719 --> 00:47:14.960
like three in the morning, I just start hearing gunshots

986
00:47:15.039 --> 00:47:18.800
going off, and I immediately, like I'm usually armed out

987
00:47:18.800 --> 00:47:23.079
in the woods, immediately grabbed my pistol or my revolver,

988
00:47:23.679 --> 00:47:25.239
and I kind of was like, you know, I was

989
00:47:25.280 --> 00:47:27.199
about to go out there, like what is going on?

990
00:47:28.079 --> 00:47:30.559
And I wanted to check on my friend and his

991
00:47:30.559 --> 00:47:32.360
wife who were there too, and they were like, what

992
00:47:32.480 --> 00:47:36.000
is happening. I don't know. These people are partying and

993
00:47:36.079 --> 00:47:38.079
just started shooting, and it's very scary because you think

994
00:47:38.119 --> 00:47:40.559
about like people doing stupid things out in the woods.

995
00:47:41.280 --> 00:47:43.280
And then after that, you know, some guy almost comes

996
00:47:43.280 --> 00:47:46.280
past my tent like they're calling some dog's name, because

997
00:47:46.440 --> 00:47:50.239
probably when they shot this dog decided hey, I'm over it,

998
00:47:50.280 --> 00:47:53.400
and they started the dog started running away, and then

999
00:47:53.440 --> 00:47:55.679
a baby started crying shortly after that. So they're not

1000
00:47:55.719 --> 00:47:57.519
only shooting guns in the middle of nowhere, they have

1001
00:47:57.559 --> 00:48:00.719
babies and dogs and there was like four people there

1002
00:48:00.800 --> 00:48:03.079
in this it was like a neighboring campus that you

1003
00:48:03.119 --> 00:48:05.199
couldn't see them, but you knew they were there from

1004
00:48:05.199 --> 00:48:06.880
when you drove in. And this is a pretty like

1005
00:48:06.960 --> 00:48:09.679
remote area in general. It's part of the Gifford Pinchot

1006
00:48:09.760 --> 00:48:12.039
National Forest. But that was just There's been a couple

1007
00:48:12.079 --> 00:48:14.880
of scenarios like that where it's like, man, people are

1008
00:48:14.880 --> 00:48:16.960
the biggest concern. I have to be honest when I'm

1009
00:48:17.000 --> 00:48:20.000
out there, you know, like other animals. I live in

1010
00:48:20.039 --> 00:48:22.320
moose country. I deal with moose and bear a lot.

1011
00:48:23.519 --> 00:48:25.079
I mean, don't I don't want to say they don't

1012
00:48:25.079 --> 00:48:27.079
phase me obviously. You know. I've had a moose run

1013
00:48:27.079 --> 00:48:29.320
past my tent. Two of them run past my tent

1014
00:48:29.320 --> 00:48:32.320
in northern Maine, and you just hear like the whole

1015
00:48:32.320 --> 00:48:34.800
ground shaking as they run past you. It's not a

1016
00:48:34.800 --> 00:48:38.840
fun feeling had face to face with them. But animals,

1017
00:48:38.840 --> 00:48:41.039
I feel like, I don't know, there's more of a

1018
00:48:41.079 --> 00:48:44.599
predictability factor maybe than there are humans who are just

1019
00:48:44.679 --> 00:48:48.480
so wild and unpredictable. Like another time in Oregon, one

1020
00:48:48.519 --> 00:48:50.599
of our first beyond the trailers, we ran into these

1021
00:48:50.679 --> 00:48:53.280
kind of like satanists. I don't know if you want

1022
00:48:53.320 --> 00:48:55.559
to call them that again. I was a Tait and

1023
00:48:55.559 --> 00:48:58.440
a whole bunch of other people and some of the

1024
00:48:58.440 --> 00:49:02.800
guys from Cliffs North American Bigfoot Center, and we went

1025
00:49:02.840 --> 00:49:06.239
to camp in this specific campsite that was mentioned in

1026
00:49:06.320 --> 00:49:08.639
Joe B. Lart's Oregon Bigfoot Highway book, which is a

1027
00:49:08.679 --> 00:49:12.320
fantastic read about like the Mountain Hood area. There was

1028
00:49:12.360 --> 00:49:14.679
an encounter there that really interested us because there was

1029
00:49:14.960 --> 00:49:17.440
this guy fishing with his kids and the sasquatch apparently

1030
00:49:17.559 --> 00:49:19.239
came out and tried to push them out of the area,

1031
00:49:19.280 --> 00:49:20.960
and it got so close to the guy actually used

1032
00:49:20.960 --> 00:49:23.840
his fishing rod stuck it out at the sasquatch, and

1033
00:49:23.880 --> 00:49:26.599
the sasquatch us his hand and pushed up against it

1034
00:49:26.639 --> 00:49:28.440
and like drove them out of the area. So like

1035
00:49:29.280 --> 00:49:31.400
the guys mentioned, oh, there's this area, and like, yeah,

1036
00:49:31.599 --> 00:49:34.159
of course we want to camp there. Let's go. So

1037
00:49:34.239 --> 00:49:37.800
we go to camp there and we start setting up

1038
00:49:37.800 --> 00:49:40.239
and there's like this little road that goes over and

1039
00:49:40.280 --> 00:49:42.159
you kind of got to walk down into the camp

1040
00:49:42.159 --> 00:49:44.480
and you can see they camp from up on the road.

1041
00:49:44.480 --> 00:49:46.800
But when you're down into the like where the campsited,

1042
00:49:46.840 --> 00:49:49.400
you can't really see the road necessarily, So I can

1043
00:49:49.440 --> 00:49:50.800
be standing at the top of the road and look

1044
00:49:50.880 --> 00:49:52.840
down into the camp, but you can't necessarily see me.

1045
00:49:53.800 --> 00:49:56.559
It's just just like the way the geography works. And

1046
00:49:58.320 --> 00:49:59.840
we got a couple of people in camp, we just said,

1047
00:50:00.199 --> 00:50:01.800
and we were up by the vehicles, and there was

1048
00:50:01.840 --> 00:50:04.239
one other car parked in front of us. Somebody were like, oh,

1049
00:50:04.239 --> 00:50:06.800
maybe they're just fishing. And I'm standing with a few

1050
00:50:06.840 --> 00:50:09.800
people and this dude just like walks out of the

1051
00:50:09.800 --> 00:50:12.719
woods and he's got this weird like golden vest on.

1052
00:50:12.840 --> 00:50:15.360
He's really tight pants, and he's like this super lanky,

1053
00:50:15.360 --> 00:50:18.039
e ma shated, looking kind of like a weird looking dude.

1054
00:50:18.079 --> 00:50:19.960
I mean, this is Oregon, Like, there's a lot of

1055
00:50:19.960 --> 00:50:22.320
strange people out there, and we're not that far from Portland,

1056
00:50:22.320 --> 00:50:24.920
which you know, has a very interesting kind of culture.

1057
00:50:25.000 --> 00:50:27.360
Not nothing against it. I'm just saying, like it's it's

1058
00:50:27.400 --> 00:50:30.519
it's an experience for sure, But this guy walks it

1059
00:50:30.599 --> 00:50:31.960
like he just walks out of the woods and he

1060
00:50:32.000 --> 00:50:35.679
looked kind of surprised to see us. And Keith, one

1061
00:50:35.719 --> 00:50:37.920
of the guys who works with Cliff there at the museum,

1062
00:50:38.000 --> 00:50:39.880
he had like a truck in his truck hap and

1063
00:50:39.960 --> 00:50:42.639
have a front and rear dash cam, and you know,

1064
00:50:42.639 --> 00:50:44.400
we got footage of this guy walking by and like

1065
00:50:44.440 --> 00:50:46.039
he looked like he was coming out of the woods.

1066
00:50:46.039 --> 00:50:48.400
He got surprised to see us, and then he walked

1067
00:50:48.400 --> 00:50:51.119
past us and we were kind of like, what are

1068
00:50:51.119 --> 00:50:55.320
you doing here? And Keith or somebody said, hey, man,

1069
00:50:55.360 --> 00:50:56.880
like going for an evening stroll, and he kind of

1070
00:50:56.920 --> 00:50:59.079
just like muttered, you know yeah, and then kept walking

1071
00:50:59.480 --> 00:51:01.639
and then went over this like little bridge, and Keith

1072
00:51:01.719 --> 00:51:04.559
was like, there's nothing out there, Like where would you

1073
00:51:04.599 --> 00:51:06.960
be going on an evening stroll around here? Like it

1074
00:51:07.000 --> 00:51:09.880
makes no sense, Like you're not This is just you know,

1075
00:51:09.960 --> 00:51:12.480
it's not like there's a house or anything nearby. So

1076
00:51:12.519 --> 00:51:14.519
we assumed he was with the vehicle that was, you know,

1077
00:51:14.639 --> 00:51:17.079
park kind of parked in front of us. It was

1078
00:51:17.119 --> 00:51:19.320
just a little weird. And then as darkness fell, we

1079
00:51:19.360 --> 00:51:21.719
saw in the distance there was like these tiki torches

1080
00:51:21.760 --> 00:51:24.360
set up and people singing and dancing, and I mean

1081
00:51:24.360 --> 00:51:26.840
they there was a fireband. So that was one that

1082
00:51:26.920 --> 00:51:28.719
was illegal and they couldn't be doing a fire or

1083
00:51:28.760 --> 00:51:30.840
tiki torches or anything like that because this is summer

1084
00:51:30.880 --> 00:51:33.679
in the Pacific Northwest, where more often than not there's

1085
00:51:33.719 --> 00:51:35.719
going to be a fireband because of the forest fires.

1086
00:51:36.760 --> 00:51:39.000
And then it was just weird. We were getting like

1087
00:51:39.039 --> 00:51:41.039
creepy vibes. And then I kind of was walking through

1088
00:51:41.079 --> 00:51:42.960
the woods a little bit of dark, and I notice

1089
00:51:43.320 --> 00:51:45.960
there's a little bit of these trails, and I figured

1090
00:51:45.960 --> 00:51:48.039
out what I think the guy was doing was he

1091
00:51:48.079 --> 00:51:49.760
thought we were all in the campsite because we had

1092
00:51:49.760 --> 00:51:52.000
a couple of people down there. He didn't know we

1093
00:51:52.000 --> 00:51:53.719
were up with the vehicles, and he took this little

1094
00:51:54.239 --> 00:51:56.159
side trail where you can see in our campsite, and

1095
00:51:56.159 --> 00:51:57.519
then he wanted to go up on the road to

1096
00:51:57.599 --> 00:52:00.960
like scope us out, maybe hit an farious reason. I

1097
00:52:01.000 --> 00:52:03.960
don't know. He didn't look trustworthy to me, to be honest,

1098
00:52:04.079 --> 00:52:06.480
like pretty good judge of character, and he did not

1099
00:52:06.519 --> 00:52:08.840
look like somebody'd want to like just hang out with,

1100
00:52:08.960 --> 00:52:11.400
Like he looked off, So I think he was trying

1101
00:52:11.400 --> 00:52:13.719
to scope us out in our camp. And then we

1102
00:52:14.119 --> 00:52:16.320
took a peek into the vehicle that was there was

1103
00:52:16.360 --> 00:52:18.920
this truck and it had like animal bones hanging in it,

1104
00:52:18.960 --> 00:52:21.599
and there was like a pentagram, and that was kind

1105
00:52:21.639 --> 00:52:23.920
of like enough for us to just be like, Yeah,

1106
00:52:23.960 --> 00:52:25.960
I don't know if we necessarily want to like share

1107
00:52:26.000 --> 00:52:29.039
an area with these people. Plus they're doing something illegal,

1108
00:52:29.599 --> 00:52:32.039
so and you know we're out there sasquatch like, we

1109
00:52:32.039 --> 00:52:34.400
don't want other campers nearby. In general, we want to

1110
00:52:34.440 --> 00:52:36.880
be isolated. So we just kind of packed it up

1111
00:52:36.920 --> 00:52:38.599
and left. It was. It was maybe a little more

1112
00:52:38.639 --> 00:52:40.599
freaky in the moment, and you know, there was a

1113
00:52:40.599 --> 00:52:43.039
bunch of us and we were armed, but I don't

1114
00:52:43.039 --> 00:52:45.679
think it made anyone feel really like enthusiastic about wanting

1115
00:52:45.679 --> 00:52:48.159
to stay there, especially because I think he just did

1116
00:52:48.159 --> 00:52:49.719
not expect us to be there and he just kind

1117
00:52:49.719 --> 00:52:53.159
of waltzed out of the woods. That was. That was

1118
00:52:53.199 --> 00:52:56.239
definitely a weird one. Again, There's been instances like that.

1119
00:52:56.280 --> 00:53:00.199
There's probably more that I'm not even remembering now. You

1120
00:53:00.280 --> 00:53:01.800
just never know out there with people in the woods

1121
00:53:01.840 --> 00:53:03.159
man Unfortunately.

1122
00:53:03.400 --> 00:53:08.199
You always got to be prepared for the weirdest thing

1123
00:53:08.440 --> 00:53:11.679
that you can imagine to happen. I agree with you,

1124
00:53:12.519 --> 00:53:15.559
I would love to spend some time here. Near the

1125
00:53:15.679 --> 00:53:21.159
end of the interview, you know, talking about the Kickstarter

1126
00:53:21.280 --> 00:53:24.320
that Small Town Monsters has going on, and you know

1127
00:53:24.360 --> 00:53:27.760
it's that time of year again, where I think of

1128
00:53:27.800 --> 00:53:31.159
it as a way that the community that you guys

1129
00:53:31.199 --> 00:53:36.400
have built up can say, Hey, we're in this, we

1130
00:53:36.440 --> 00:53:38.719
want to see this stuff happen. Can you tell us

1131
00:53:38.719 --> 00:53:40.880
a little bit about how the kickstarter is going, what

1132
00:53:40.920 --> 00:53:44.079
that entails and all that good stuff I can.

1133
00:53:44.199 --> 00:53:47.800
Yeah, So we do an annual kickstarter at Small Town Monsters.

1134
00:53:48.199 --> 00:53:52.239
Basically it's a way to fund all the productions we

1135
00:53:52.280 --> 00:53:55.239
do throughout the year, and that's including everything we do

1136
00:53:55.440 --> 00:53:58.039
from you know, we have a whole bunch of like

1137
00:53:58.119 --> 00:54:00.880
feature films we do. And again I talked about earlier

1138
00:54:01.000 --> 00:54:03.039
how we don't just do like Bigfoot stuff, even though

1139
00:54:03.039 --> 00:54:05.360
a lot of people that maybe follow us from like

1140
00:54:05.360 --> 00:54:07.920
the YouTube side, they think we're all like just investigators

1141
00:54:07.920 --> 00:54:11.239
looking for Bigfoot, Like, No, beyond Bigfoot, Beyond the Trail

1142
00:54:11.320 --> 00:54:14.239
is like it's a series that follows my personal investigations

1143
00:54:14.239 --> 00:54:17.440
into the Bigfoot topic. Right, Like I'm basically giving free

1144
00:54:17.480 --> 00:54:20.559
reigns to do documentaries on places I want to go investigate,

1145
00:54:20.599 --> 00:54:22.800
whether it's in Alaska or North Carolina or wherever it

1146
00:54:22.840 --> 00:54:25.679
may be. Right, But we have other films. We do

1147
00:54:25.760 --> 00:54:29.039
another series, so there's other topics. So every year we

1148
00:54:29.119 --> 00:54:31.159
have like a few films that are part of this

1149
00:54:31.280 --> 00:54:35.119
Kickstarter that are kind of like the flagship films and series.

1150
00:54:35.159 --> 00:54:37.920
So this year we have a dog Man related film.

1151
00:54:37.960 --> 00:54:40.960
We have a on the Trail of UFO Season two,

1152
00:54:41.000 --> 00:54:43.880
which is a follow up to a previous episodic series.

1153
00:54:44.000 --> 00:54:46.280
It's also going to be The Sasquatch Factor, which is

1154
00:54:46.320 --> 00:54:49.119
also an episodic series. And then I'm doing a film

1155
00:54:49.159 --> 00:54:51.400
called The Journey to Ape Island and I can talk

1156
00:54:51.400 --> 00:54:55.679
about that a little bit, but basically, the Kickstarter it's

1157
00:54:55.760 --> 00:54:59.079
like almost functions as like a pre order campaign because

1158
00:54:59.119 --> 00:55:02.440
there's different tiers you can back at. And I should

1159
00:55:02.440 --> 00:55:04.599
preface by saying, you know, we are an independent company.

1160
00:55:04.599 --> 00:55:08.760
We're not owned by some multi million dollar corporate network.

1161
00:55:08.840 --> 00:55:11.880
Like we are literally as independent as you can get.

1162
00:55:12.280 --> 00:55:15.559
Like when I say that, I mean like it's like

1163
00:55:15.599 --> 00:55:17.719
a very small crew of us. There's not work again,

1164
00:55:17.760 --> 00:55:20.480
We're not some major network TV kind of thing. And

1165
00:55:20.519 --> 00:55:22.519
I think that's why we have the creative control we

1166
00:55:22.599 --> 00:55:25.400
do over the films and the productions we do is

1167
00:55:25.440 --> 00:55:27.800
because a lot of us are also we are interested

1168
00:55:27.800 --> 00:55:30.920
in the topics, Like I know people that work in

1169
00:55:30.320 --> 00:55:34.000
in in the entertainment business and you know, reality TV

1170
00:55:34.119 --> 00:55:35.840
show stuff, and they're like, Oh, I guess what, I'm

1171
00:55:35.840 --> 00:55:38.920
doing a ghost show. I'm casting for a ghost show

1172
00:55:39.000 --> 00:55:41.920
this this a month. So that's just like a project

1173
00:55:41.920 --> 00:55:43.440
to them because the next month they'll be doing a

1174
00:55:43.440 --> 00:55:47.559
show about like storage wars or you know, other topics

1175
00:55:47.599 --> 00:55:50.679
like it's they're not interested in those, Whereas like all

1176
00:55:50.679 --> 00:55:52.320
of us at Small Time Monstors, we came from a

1177
00:55:52.320 --> 00:55:55.440
background where we were interested in cryptosology and that sort

1178
00:55:55.480 --> 00:55:59.440
of stuff, myself and Seth especially, you know, Heather Mark Matski,

1179
00:55:59.559 --> 00:56:01.960
Aaron d you know, he used to do a lot

1180
00:56:02.000 --> 00:56:04.639
of stuff before coming to Small Town Monsters. All of

1181
00:56:04.679 --> 00:56:08.159
us did, so we really have that like enthusiast kind

1182
00:56:08.199 --> 00:56:10.880
of attentiveness to the topics. Like I'm genuinely interested in

1183
00:56:10.880 --> 00:56:13.480
the truth about Sasquatch. I don't need to add any

1184
00:56:13.519 --> 00:56:15.920
fake kind of stuff to any of my productions because

1185
00:56:16.000 --> 00:56:18.440
I'm I'm interested in the truth like I want to.

1186
00:56:18.480 --> 00:56:21.039
I want to portray what actually goes on when you're

1187
00:56:21.079 --> 00:56:23.480
out there investigating, and if nothing happens, that's what happened.

1188
00:56:23.519 --> 00:56:26.400
So so yeah, basically, the Kickstarter we do one every year,

1189
00:56:26.840 --> 00:56:28.880
and it basically again it allows us to fund like

1190
00:56:28.920 --> 00:56:32.039
the creation of all the productions, including all the YouTube

1191
00:56:32.039 --> 00:56:35.199
and episodic stuff, and then the kind of the mainstay

1192
00:56:35.280 --> 00:56:38.599
films and you back at different levels and a lot

1193
00:56:38.599 --> 00:56:40.079
of them like you get your name in the credits,

1194
00:56:40.079 --> 00:56:43.320
and there's a lot of like you know, exclusive stuff

1195
00:56:43.360 --> 00:56:46.920
like patches and insirts and like artwork. I know one

1196
00:56:46.960 --> 00:56:49.800
of the tiers this year was like artwork from some

1197
00:56:49.840 --> 00:56:53.639
of the films done by Santino Vitally's dad. I don't

1198
00:56:53.639 --> 00:56:55.440
remember his name. He's a guy who does special effects

1199
00:56:55.440 --> 00:56:57.880
for us. Like they're like unique pieces of art, and

1200
00:56:57.880 --> 00:56:59.679
that's part of the kick Like there's no there's no

1201
00:56:59.760 --> 00:57:03.039
other copies of that. There's also the these monster statues

1202
00:57:03.039 --> 00:57:05.360
that Jeane Saint Jean does every year, and those are

1203
00:57:06.199 --> 00:57:09.840
he does a lot of like comic and action figure

1204
00:57:09.960 --> 00:57:12.440
kind of stuff, very very well known guy in that community,

1205
00:57:12.519 --> 00:57:15.079
Jean Saint Jean. He'll do like a different creature every year,

1206
00:57:15.079 --> 00:57:18.480
and I think this year is the Hopkinsville Goblin statue

1207
00:57:18.719 --> 00:57:20.039
because that's going to be part of on the trail

1208
00:57:20.159 --> 00:57:23.920
UFO season two. So so yeah, these the Kickstarter just

1209
00:57:23.960 --> 00:57:26.119
basically let's us do what we're doing, continue to do

1210
00:57:26.159 --> 00:57:29.079
it independently. And a lot of it again is it's

1211
00:57:29.079 --> 00:57:30.960
like a pre order. You get early access to all

1212
00:57:30.960 --> 00:57:34.760
the films. You get digital copies and then basically hard copies,

1213
00:57:34.760 --> 00:57:38.320
and you can select different levels of stuff. But you

1214
00:57:38.360 --> 00:57:41.840
see these films and productions like the moment I finish

1215
00:57:41.920 --> 00:57:44.199
up my Ape Island film, and it's like, this is

1216
00:57:44.199 --> 00:57:46.400
the final version, this is what's going to go to

1217
00:57:46.440 --> 00:57:50.159
distribution of Some of the first people to ever see

1218
00:57:50.199 --> 00:57:52.280
it other than the crew and those involved are like

1219
00:57:52.320 --> 00:57:55.119
the kickstarterbackers, and they often see these kind of productions

1220
00:57:56.199 --> 00:57:58.840
like months before they ever see the public, months before

1221
00:57:58.840 --> 00:58:03.000
they get distribution alone to other platforms. Kickstarter people see them,

1222
00:58:03.039 --> 00:58:04.960
so there's a lot behind it. It's not just like

1223
00:58:05.320 --> 00:58:07.760
giving money. It's there. You get a lot of rewards

1224
00:58:07.800 --> 00:58:11.880
actually for whatever level you back at. So that's kind

1225
00:58:11.880 --> 00:58:14.639
of the short of it with the Kickstarter. I know

1226
00:58:14.679 --> 00:58:17.559
it's a little bit confusing maybe for folks, but we

1227
00:58:17.639 --> 00:58:21.480
started the Kickstarter the end of last week as of

1228
00:58:21.519 --> 00:58:25.320
recording on February fifth, I believe, and it runs till

1229
00:58:25.480 --> 00:58:28.840
March fifth, and there's twenty four days to go. So far,

1230
00:58:28.880 --> 00:58:30.639
we're over one hundred percent of our goal. But we

1231
00:58:30.679 --> 00:58:34.119
do have like stretch goals that we announce, so you know,

1232
00:58:34.159 --> 00:58:36.159
if we hit a certain goal and then exceed that,

1233
00:58:36.519 --> 00:58:38.840
there will be like new items that get added into

1234
00:58:39.400 --> 00:58:42.719
kind of kind of entice and help kind of keep

1235
00:58:42.719 --> 00:58:45.840
it going. But yeah, I want to mention a little

1236
00:58:45.840 --> 00:58:48.519
bit about the big film that would be doing for

1237
00:58:48.840 --> 00:58:51.880
the Kickstarter, which is The Journey to Ape Island. So

1238
00:58:51.960 --> 00:58:56.480
that is going to be a feature production, feature documentary

1239
00:58:56.559 --> 00:59:01.000
about Vancouver Island and British Columbia, Canada. And I'm really

1240
00:59:01.079 --> 00:59:05.199
excited to do this because I'm hoping that this is

1241
00:59:05.239 --> 00:59:07.000
kind of going to be what people expect from my

1242
00:59:07.119 --> 00:59:12.000
typical documentaries, which are investigative a lot of the travel

1243
00:59:12.039 --> 00:59:14.800
adventure kind of elements you see, you know, the really

1244
00:59:14.840 --> 00:59:17.119
epic stuff. But it's going to be like that tenfold.

1245
00:59:17.480 --> 00:59:19.000
I mean, it's going to be a lot more intense,

1246
00:59:19.119 --> 00:59:23.000
lot more in depth and basically the kind of pitches.

1247
00:59:23.280 --> 00:59:25.880
Myself and Jason Hewlett, who's done some work with other

1248
00:59:25.920 --> 00:59:30.280
small town Monsters. He's a Canadian paranormal investigator and author.

1249
00:59:31.239 --> 00:59:33.440
Him and I are teaming up and are going to

1250
00:59:33.480 --> 00:59:37.079
spend a extended period of time on Vancouver Island and

1251
00:59:37.159 --> 00:59:39.519
kind of document the whole history of the island from

1252
00:59:40.000 --> 00:59:44.039
south to north and the history of Sasquatch encounters, which

1253
00:59:44.079 --> 00:59:47.480
is I mean, it's immense on Vancouver Island because you

1254
00:59:47.559 --> 00:59:52.800
have these first nations indigenous cultures there that have thousands

1255
00:59:52.840 --> 00:59:56.119
of years of lore, the Sasquatch, the Zonaquah, they have

1256
00:59:56.119 --> 00:59:58.599
all these totems. I think Vancouver Island has the most

1257
00:59:59.119 --> 01:00:02.639
Sasquatch related to totems. So this story will be grounded

1258
01:00:02.639 --> 01:00:05.760
in the indigenous folklore and the tales as we travel

1259
01:00:05.800 --> 01:00:07.920
through the island, but it's also going to talk about

1260
01:00:07.920 --> 01:00:12.039
more modern encounters, contemporary stories. You know, there's stories by

1261
01:00:12.079 --> 01:00:15.039
folks that are considered very credible. You know, people who

1262
01:00:15.119 --> 01:00:18.719
are into the outdoors, folks that are you know a

1263
01:00:18.760 --> 01:00:20.920
lot of these people that just aren't really out there

1264
01:00:20.920 --> 01:00:25.159
looking for anything, but sort of have stuff happen. So

1265
01:00:25.320 --> 01:00:28.880
it's going to be very in depth process and epic cinematography.

1266
01:00:29.400 --> 01:00:30.599
We're going to be going to some of the most

1267
01:00:30.639 --> 01:00:33.280
beautiful locations on the island. I mean it's it's these

1268
01:00:33.280 --> 01:00:36.280
temper rainforests, these mountains, you know, these kind of beautiful

1269
01:00:36.360 --> 01:00:39.159
valleys and it's a very rugged place. It's the largest

1270
01:00:39.199 --> 01:00:41.719
island off the west coast of North America, I believe.

1271
01:00:42.480 --> 01:00:45.079
So it's a massive, massive area and the film is

1272
01:00:45.079 --> 01:00:47.599
going to be super in depth and I'm really excited

1273
01:00:47.639 --> 01:00:49.760
to dive into it. We haven't begun production yet, but

1274
01:00:51.039 --> 01:00:52.400
you know, I can't say when we're going to do it,

1275
01:00:52.440 --> 01:00:55.679
but we will be doing it, and that'll be a

1276
01:00:55.800 --> 01:00:58.719
very very intense kind of film. And Jason Hewlett is

1277
01:00:58.760 --> 01:01:00.800
also going to be writing a book. It's kind of

1278
01:01:00.800 --> 01:01:03.079
a little bit of a companion piece but also goes

1279
01:01:03.119 --> 01:01:05.400
off into its own directions, but very in depth about

1280
01:01:05.760 --> 01:01:08.880
Vancouver Island and you know, as it's been kind of

1281
01:01:08.920 --> 01:01:10.199
known Ape Island.

1282
01:01:11.039 --> 01:01:14.159
That is fantastic. I'm just thinking of people I've talked

1283
01:01:14.159 --> 01:01:18.280
to over the years from that island, and man, there's

1284
01:01:18.320 --> 01:01:20.440
some intense stuff that happens on there, and there's some

1285
01:01:20.679 --> 01:01:26.400
very very remote places when you get into I'm thinking

1286
01:01:26.760 --> 01:01:31.159
central Northern Yeah, there's some crazy places up there. So

1287
01:01:31.159 --> 01:01:33.960
it'd be great to see what you guys are able

1288
01:01:34.039 --> 01:01:38.119
to capture. Another thing that I'm really interested in about,

1289
01:01:38.199 --> 01:01:43.800
and I know that this one's probably being more planned currently,

1290
01:01:44.960 --> 01:01:49.920
the Sasquatch factor. It's a very very cool idea because

1291
01:01:50.000 --> 01:01:52.760
it almost sounds like it's a thing where you'll be

1292
01:01:52.960 --> 01:01:57.880
traveling potentially across the US to different Bigfoot spots. Is

1293
01:01:57.920 --> 01:02:01.320
that anything where you have any you can share about

1294
01:02:01.400 --> 01:02:04.159
about that one or is that more still really being

1295
01:02:04.280 --> 01:02:05.280
planned currently?

1296
01:02:05.679 --> 01:02:08.119
Yeah, that's still being more planned. I would say, I

1297
01:02:08.159 --> 01:02:12.039
know it's going to be Seth's series and undertaking, but

1298
01:02:12.079 --> 01:02:15.079
he wanted myself and Errands to be kind of involved.

1299
01:02:15.119 --> 01:02:17.440
So I haven't been told a whole lot. I've been

1300
01:02:17.440 --> 01:02:20.400
told that I probably will be sent out on some missions,

1301
01:02:21.480 --> 01:02:24.360
which is cool by me, you know, but I really

1302
01:02:24.360 --> 01:02:27.840
don't know a lot at the moment. Obviously. Currently I'm

1303
01:02:28.320 --> 01:02:31.280
focused very heavily on kind of my production, so Bigfoot

1304
01:02:31.320 --> 01:02:34.840
Beyond the Trail and then obviously Journey to Ape Island.

1305
01:02:34.880 --> 01:02:37.480
Like myself and Jason are are like, we literally have

1306
01:02:37.519 --> 01:02:42.079
a meeting after this podcast finishes because we're like, you know,

1307
01:02:42.559 --> 01:02:44.519
there's so many different elements because as you mentioned, there's

1308
01:02:44.519 --> 01:02:46.760
so many good stories from the island, it's so hard

1309
01:02:46.800 --> 01:02:48.639
to narrow down. So we're trying to focus on as

1310
01:02:48.719 --> 01:02:51.440
much as we can in a realistic possibility, And there's

1311
01:02:51.440 --> 01:02:54.360
going to be a mix of investigative stuff and interviews

1312
01:02:54.440 --> 01:02:57.159
and locations and that sort of stuff. But anyway, back

1313
01:02:57.159 --> 01:02:59.679
to Sasquatch factor, Yeah, I think Seth wanted to do

1314
01:02:59.760 --> 01:03:01.880
kind of like a I don't want to say definitive,

1315
01:03:01.920 --> 01:03:03.760
I don't know if you would use that word, kind

1316
01:03:03.760 --> 01:03:05.480
of look at the big Foot topic in a way

1317
01:03:05.480 --> 01:03:08.639
that you know, like this, this is where we're at.

1318
01:03:08.679 --> 01:03:11.960
This is you know, kind of the most credible or

1319
01:03:11.960 --> 01:03:14.719
the most interesting kind of experiences and places and that

1320
01:03:14.760 --> 01:03:16.639
sort of stuff. I think that is going to be

1321
01:03:16.639 --> 01:03:18.920
part of it. I'm excited to see how it kind

1322
01:03:18.920 --> 01:03:21.800
of takes off. And again, I know I'll be involved

1323
01:03:21.800 --> 01:03:25.320
in some capacity, so we'll see what that kind of entails.

1324
01:03:25.360 --> 01:03:28.880
But I'm excited either way for those productions. Those are

1325
01:03:28.920 --> 01:03:31.119
obviously more on the Sasquatch side of things. We did

1326
01:03:31.199 --> 01:03:34.559
just get back from filming for on the Trail of

1327
01:03:34.599 --> 01:03:37.760
UFO season two, so we already started production on that

1328
01:03:37.880 --> 01:03:39.760
most of the most of the series before The Case

1329
01:03:39.760 --> 01:03:42.639
Starred even started. And that was a really interesting experience

1330
01:03:42.679 --> 01:03:45.239
because that's totally different than a lot of the stuff

1331
01:03:45.400 --> 01:03:47.119
we usually do, or a lot of stuff I usually

1332
01:03:47.159 --> 01:03:49.679
do with the Sasquatch topic. Like you know, we were

1333
01:03:49.679 --> 01:03:52.159
going to the right Patterson Air Force Base in Ohio,

1334
01:03:53.039 --> 01:03:55.400
all these different areas that have long UFO history. So

1335
01:03:56.039 --> 01:03:58.559
that's just my point in saying that is that that's

1336
01:03:58.639 --> 01:04:01.159
how much, you know, variety of stuff we have at

1337
01:04:01.159 --> 01:04:04.000
Small Town Monsters, where you know, we're not just in

1338
01:04:04.039 --> 01:04:06.639
one topic, even though people might think we are, Like

1339
01:04:06.679 --> 01:04:09.599
it's not just Bigfoot, there's there and throughout. You know,

1340
01:04:09.599 --> 01:04:12.079
small Town Monster's been around for over ten years. My

1341
01:04:12.159 --> 01:04:15.159
first ever production small Town Monsters was back in twenty

1342
01:04:15.199 --> 01:04:17.159
eighteen on the Trail of Champ, which was about the

1343
01:04:17.239 --> 01:04:20.920
Lake Monster Champ in Lake Champlain before any of this

1344
01:04:20.960 --> 01:04:25.280
other stuff sort of started. So we really try to

1345
01:04:25.280 --> 01:04:28.559
cover a lot of the interesting lore. And again, I

1346
01:04:28.599 --> 01:04:31.719
think we come from a position where we're all enthusiasts

1347
01:04:32.480 --> 01:04:36.039
and we are all very interested in the truth of

1348
01:04:36.119 --> 01:04:38.119
the topics. Like you know, we don't need to sugarcoat

1349
01:04:38.199 --> 01:04:43.039
or add dramatics or kind of sensationalize the topic. And

1350
01:04:43.159 --> 01:04:45.679
especially when it comes to my investigations personally, like I

1351
01:04:47.280 --> 01:04:49.039
just show what I experience, Like if I don't have

1352
01:04:49.079 --> 01:04:52.039
anything weird happen, I won't know. I'm not going to

1353
01:04:52.079 --> 01:04:54.960
add something in for dramatic effect, but I will try

1354
01:04:55.000 --> 01:04:57.480
to set the stage and explain the environment and the

1355
01:04:57.519 --> 01:05:00.639
areas that we're in. So yeah, yah, that's kind of

1356
01:05:01.079 --> 01:05:03.079
the long and short of it. I guess with you know,

1357
01:05:03.119 --> 01:05:05.159
what we do with small time monsters, I guess in

1358
01:05:05.559 --> 01:05:08.639
a long way of putting it. But yeah, again, I

1359
01:05:08.639 --> 01:05:10.480
think if you're if you're interested in a more like

1360
01:05:10.559 --> 01:05:13.039
serious look at any of these topics, check us out.

1361
01:05:13.360 --> 01:05:15.480
I'm not saying, you know, we're the end all be all,

1362
01:05:15.519 --> 01:05:19.360
of course, but I think we are all genuinely interested.

1363
01:05:19.440 --> 01:05:21.559
Like it's not just a job. It's not just something

1364
01:05:21.559 --> 01:05:24.039
that you know, again we're assigned to do. This week

1365
01:05:24.119 --> 01:05:26.400
is Bigfoot, and then next week it'll be some other topic.

1366
01:05:26.599 --> 01:05:31.760
Like there is a genuine curiosity there and you know,

1367
01:05:31.840 --> 01:05:34.119
a desire to showcase the truth.

1368
01:05:34.800 --> 01:05:41.039
Yeah, it is so one exciting stuff coming this year.

1369
01:05:41.280 --> 01:05:45.199
Maybe one more question, Alex, is there an area that

1370
01:05:45.400 --> 01:05:50.639
you are hoping to maybe get to sometime in the

1371
01:05:50.679 --> 01:05:54.000
future that's always been on your bucket list to go

1372
01:05:54.199 --> 01:05:58.679
and to look for sasquatch related activity with.

1373
01:05:59.880 --> 01:06:02.280
There's a few I'm not going to name them because

1374
01:06:02.280 --> 01:06:05.639
I don't want to you know, spoil give any spoilers

1375
01:06:05.719 --> 01:06:08.000
or anything like that, but there's there's one area in particular.

1376
01:06:08.360 --> 01:06:10.280
I'll just say it's like in the southern Ish part

1377
01:06:10.280 --> 01:06:11.960
of the US that I have not been to yet

1378
01:06:12.039 --> 01:06:14.800
that that I'm hoping to get to very soon. There's

1379
01:06:14.880 --> 01:06:17.639
areas of Canada too, I think I've done. You know,

1380
01:06:17.639 --> 01:06:19.719
I drove up to Alaska and I covered a lot

1381
01:06:19.719 --> 01:06:22.320
of territory there in like British Columbia and the Yukon.

1382
01:06:23.039 --> 01:06:26.840
Been up to British Columbia, Bellakula, obviously Ape Island. British

1383
01:06:26.840 --> 01:06:30.400
Columbia is incredible, but it's it's so vast, it's it's

1384
01:06:30.440 --> 01:06:33.000
really only second to Alaska and like natural beauty, and

1385
01:06:33.000 --> 01:06:36.599
I say, like size in North America, it's ridiculous, both

1386
01:06:36.599 --> 01:06:38.639
British Columbia and Alaska and the Yukon that whole area.

1387
01:06:38.679 --> 01:06:41.199
But there's areas like eastern Canada I love to get to,

1388
01:06:42.000 --> 01:06:44.920
you know, being guy in New England, Like you look

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up at Quebec and it's just millions and millions of

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acres of woods, moose, bear, lots of stuff. Not a

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01:06:51.679 --> 01:06:53.719
lot of sightings there are. And I actually I have

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talked to folks, multiple French Canadian folks that have kind

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01:06:56.840 --> 01:06:58.719
of confirmed my theory that I think why a lot

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of reports don't exist from as opposed like Ontario Canada,

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01:07:02.639 --> 01:07:05.159
you know, English speaking Canada, there's a lot of reports

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01:07:05.199 --> 01:07:08.400
from there, Algonquin Park, all these different areas you get

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01:07:08.440 --> 01:07:11.519
to Quebec. The language barrier, and especially back in the day,

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there used to be a lot of tension there between

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French Canadians and Anglo Canadians. I mean there was even

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like terrorist groups in the seventies and the sixties, the FLQ,

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01:07:19.639 --> 01:07:23.199
which wanted like the freedom of liberation of Quebec, and

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01:07:23.280 --> 01:07:25.760
it was actually seen as like offensive to speak English,

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01:07:26.039 --> 01:07:27.480
especially the old timers. So I think a lot of

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01:07:27.519 --> 01:07:29.599
those old timers in Quebec, they grew up in the woods,

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01:07:30.039 --> 01:07:33.199
you know, the woodsmen, the hunters, the outdoorsmen. They probably

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01:07:33.199 --> 01:07:35.320
had encounters, but they're not going to report it to

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01:07:35.400 --> 01:07:39.119
some American English website about Bigfoot, like that's the last

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01:07:39.119 --> 01:07:40.599
thing they're going to do. And I've talked to a

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01:07:40.599 --> 01:07:42.519
couple of French Canadians who have actually said, yeah, that

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01:07:42.599 --> 01:07:44.920
sounds pretty pretty accurate, like they are very you know

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01:07:44.920 --> 01:07:46.880
a lot of the older generations, especially to still have

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01:07:46.920 --> 01:07:50.519
that animosity towards like the Anglo the English Canadians. So

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01:07:50.559 --> 01:07:52.599
I think that's an area that would interest me to

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01:07:52.639 --> 01:07:56.119
go to Quebec and even further north of there. There's

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01:07:56.159 --> 01:07:59.800
other other places. I'd say those are probably some areas,

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01:07:59.840 --> 01:08:01.559
but then obviously I'd love to get to like the

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01:08:01.599 --> 01:08:04.280
Himalayas and go look for the Yetti. That's probably one

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01:08:04.320 --> 01:08:06.880
of my top ones because that's what originally got me

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01:08:06.920 --> 01:08:09.280
interested in Sasquatch was the YETI that's the story that

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01:08:09.320 --> 01:08:11.360
really kind of stuck out to me. Stuck out to me.

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01:08:12.679 --> 01:08:17.239
Well, man, yeah, that would Himalayas would be would be wild.

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01:08:18.079 --> 01:08:21.079
I can't even imagine that. That would be really cool someday.

1423
01:08:22.439 --> 01:08:25.960
But man, Alex, thank you so much for coming on.

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01:08:26.079 --> 01:08:29.680
You know, Alex Pettakov from Small Town Monsters, It's been

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01:08:29.680 --> 01:08:32.600
great to talk to you again on the show. Do

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01:08:32.640 --> 01:08:35.960
you mind reminding listeners and I'll have this in the

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01:08:35.960 --> 01:08:38.760
show notes how they can best keep up to date

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01:08:38.880 --> 01:08:41.000
with what Small Town Monsters is doing.

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01:08:42.039 --> 01:08:43.920
Yeah, I mean, obviously the easiest way is just to

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01:08:44.039 --> 01:08:47.279
google small Town Monsters. Find the website there. That'll lead

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01:08:47.319 --> 01:08:50.479
you to YouTube, lead you to all the other stuff. Obviously,

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01:08:50.520 --> 01:08:53.199
you can go to YouTube small Town Monsters and then

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01:08:53.319 --> 01:08:54.359
you know, if you go to the website, you'll be

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01:08:54.399 --> 01:08:55.840
able to find the link to the kickstarter and that

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01:08:55.880 --> 01:08:58.399
kind of stuff. But no, I really appreciate you having

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01:08:58.520 --> 01:09:00.319
having me on. Man, it's been a blast kind of

1437
01:09:00.680 --> 01:09:03.479
It's fun reminiscing about some of these stories and crazy

1438
01:09:03.520 --> 01:09:06.439
things that have happened over the years. And again, I

1439
01:09:06.520 --> 01:09:09.439
appreciate you having me on. And you know, hope the

1440
01:09:09.560 --> 01:09:13.359
pursuit stays interesting for you, and you know, we can

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01:09:13.439 --> 01:09:15.520
keep getting out there in the woods and doing what

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01:09:15.560 --> 01:09:18.520
we enjoy doing. And that's what we love doing. Obviously

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01:09:18.560 --> 01:09:21.239
it's small time ascers and myself personally, you know, like

1444
01:09:21.279 --> 01:09:22.960
I'm getting ready to go on a trip soon here

1445
01:09:23.000 --> 01:09:25.600
and I just cannot wait. Like it's one of those

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01:09:25.640 --> 01:09:27.800
things like kid on Christmas morning, kind of feeling like

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01:09:28.239 --> 01:09:29.720
I got to go spend a week in the woods.

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01:09:29.840 --> 01:09:35.520
Yes, have you ever heard all the accounts of bigfoot

1449
01:09:35.560 --> 01:09:37.119
activity around Oakridge? Ore?

1450
01:09:37.159 --> 01:09:37.439
Again?

1451
01:09:37.880 --> 01:09:40.439
And you think to yourself, man, I would love to

1452
01:09:40.520 --> 01:09:44.000
get out in those woods and experience it for myself. Well,

1453
01:09:44.039 --> 01:09:48.399
guess what this year you can If this is interesting

1454
01:09:48.439 --> 01:09:52.640
to you, stay tuned because it's pretty cool. Sasquatch Summer

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01:09:52.760 --> 01:09:56.880
Fest is coming up July tenth through the eleventh, twenty

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01:09:56.920 --> 01:10:00.239
twenty six. It's going to be even better in the

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01:10:00.279 --> 01:10:04.159
previous years. Reason number one. I'll be one of the speakers.

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01:10:04.680 --> 01:10:10.239
It's gonna be wild. I'll probably I'll say this. There

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01:10:10.279 --> 01:10:14.239
may be stuff you haven't heard anywhere else, because let's

1460
01:10:14.279 --> 01:10:18.840
just say sometimes it's well, you just got to be there.

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01:10:19.199 --> 01:10:21.560
We'll leave it that more about looking for Bigfoot in

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01:10:21.640 --> 01:10:24.800
the Oakridge Woods. Now check this out. You may know

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01:10:25.520 --> 01:10:30.760
Jason Kenzie from his documentary series Searching for Sasquatch. Well,

1464
01:10:30.800 --> 01:10:34.479
this year you can not only go to the festival,

1465
01:10:34.840 --> 01:10:42.720
but you can also sign up for a track deep

1466
01:10:42.760 --> 01:10:46.119
in the wild forest outside of Oakridge with Jason Kenzie

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01:10:47.039 --> 01:10:50.680
to the Bigfoot Spots to look for Bigfoot. There's only

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01:10:50.720 --> 01:10:54.880
eight spots to sign up for this, and yes, this

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01:10:54.920 --> 01:10:57.840
will also be filmed for the next chapter in his

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01:10:57.960 --> 01:11:01.279
documentary series, which is Searching for Asquatch. This is a

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01:11:01.319 --> 01:11:03.720
once in a lifetime deal. It's just trust me, it's

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01:11:03.720 --> 01:11:08.640
going to be a wild, wild experience. To get a ticket,

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01:11:09.039 --> 01:11:13.000
head on over to Sasquatch Summerfest dot com and listeners

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01:11:13.039 --> 01:11:18.560
can use the code b sp like Bigfoot Society podcast

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01:11:19.079 --> 01:11:21.159
in order to get a two day pass. For the

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01:11:21.159 --> 01:11:25.399
price of a one day pass. So thanks to Priscilla

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01:11:25.680 --> 01:11:30.439
for giving me that code so that you guys can

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01:11:32.359 --> 01:11:35.479
can get a little a little help with the costs there.

1479
01:11:35.680 --> 01:11:39.359
Appreciate that, Priscilla. I hope to see you at the

1480
01:11:39.399 --> 01:11:43.479
booth in Oakridge this year. We can talk about your encounter.

1481
01:11:43.720 --> 01:11:46.079
Was able to talk to so many people last year

1482
01:11:46.199 --> 01:11:50.319
and the year before. It is an incredible time. You're

1483
01:11:50.359 --> 01:11:52.079
not going to want to miss it, and I'll see

1484
01:11:52.119 --> 01:11:56.439
you there. Before we wrap this episode, I want to

1485
01:11:56.479 --> 01:11:59.720
say something directly to a very specific group of listeners.

1486
01:12:00.039 --> 01:12:03.680
If you're in the military, any branch or forces, and

1487
01:12:03.760 --> 01:12:06.680
if you've seen something that no one can explain, or

1488
01:12:06.720 --> 01:12:09.800
if you're a National park ranger or forestry worker who's

1489
01:12:09.840 --> 01:12:12.680
been told to stay quiet, or if you're a pilot

1490
01:12:12.720 --> 01:12:16.239
who's seen something strange down on the ground, or if

1491
01:12:16.279 --> 01:12:19.840
you're with the FBI a federal agency, or working intelligence

1492
01:12:20.039 --> 01:12:23.039
and you stumbled upon something you're not allowed to talk about.

1493
01:12:23.359 --> 01:12:26.239
And if you're a firefighter, paramedic or search and rescue

1494
01:12:26.279 --> 01:12:30.199
responder who's heard screams or found tracks that didn't make sense,

1495
01:12:30.720 --> 01:12:34.560
if you're in the logging industry on a remote oil field,

1496
01:12:34.720 --> 01:12:37.720
or a trucker with government contracts, and you've had something

1497
01:12:37.800 --> 01:12:41.199
happen that you've never told a soul. And if you're

1498
01:12:41.239 --> 01:12:45.119
a biologist, a wildlife specialist, or a field researcher under

1499
01:12:45.159 --> 01:12:48.479
contract who has found evidence you're not allowed to report.

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01:12:49.039 --> 01:12:51.520
If you're a pastor, a missionary, or someone on a

1501
01:12:51.560 --> 01:12:55.039
spiritual retreat and you saw something that shook your faith,

1502
01:12:55.720 --> 01:12:58.840
or if you work in the shadows CIA, NSA or

1503
01:12:58.880 --> 01:13:02.239
anything with clearance, and you've seen what the public hasn't,

1504
01:13:03.600 --> 01:13:07.079
then I want to talk to you, even if it's anonymous.

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01:13:08.840 --> 01:13:12.359
You can reach me at Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com.

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01:13:12.800 --> 01:13:15.239
The world needs to hear what you've been forced to

1507
01:13:15.279 --> 01:13:21.039
carry alone. And you're not alone. You've got the story,

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01:13:21.560 --> 01:13:25.439
We've got the mic. See you in the woods. Thank

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01:13:25.439 --> 01:13:28.319
you for listening to this episode of the Bigfoot Society podcast.

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Every encounter we share reminds us that the world is

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bigger and stranger than we think, and that the truth

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01:13:34.039 --> 01:13:36.880
is often hiding just beyond the tree line. If you

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