Grand Junction, Colorado Bigfoot Encounters

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on with the show. Hey, real

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quick, this is a disclaimer before
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I just want to make sure that
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in this episode. Thank you all
right, Big for Society, You got

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the privilege of talking to Dom.
He's a lobster fisherman from Maine, and

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he contacted me about some really interesting
things that he has experienced over the years.

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But how's it going today, Dom, It's going good man. I'm

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really happy to be able to share
the story and glad that everybody else does

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too. So thanks for giving it
a platform and a voice. We all

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appreciate it. Thank you man.
Oh absolutely, It's one of my highlights

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of the day is able to after
the kid goes to bed, I be

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able to go into the recording studio
and call up another person and get their

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story out there. So I appreciate
you coming on from Maine. Very familiar.

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It's the same way for me.
As soon as the kids asleep,

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then it's like time to to figure
out what stories are out there, see

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if there's a new podcast on and
I understand so absolutely, Dom Or you

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know what, I'm gonna give the
reins over to you, and I'm gonna

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let you let you lead the way. Dom all right, man, thank

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you very much. My name is
Dom. I am from Colorado, but

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I live in may I do a
little bit of commercial logging. I also

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work on lobster boats. I'm always
trying to be in the wilderness. But

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I had two experiences when I was
living in Colorado that both of them wasn't

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just me there. I had somebody
with me both times that saw the same

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thing. And the way people react
to it is definitely different. But it

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was terrifying and it changed the way
I looked at everything. And I see

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a lot of similarities hearing other people's
stories. But I guess I'll just start

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with my introduction to bigfoot in general. Living in Colorado, working in the

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woods, and playing around in the
woods. People always talk about it,

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or somebody has a story here or
there. And I had people who had

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passed by theories about what they thought
these things were. And people'd say,

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maybe they're some interdimensional thing or something
that was an experiment or didn't evolve,

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or I don't know myself. And
I think most people go through a phase

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where they might be interested in those
things if they live in a mountainous rural

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area. And I just I knew
that there was always big things in the

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woods, and I was always out
there. I worked in I grew up

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on a ranch and we were always
working with cows, working as horses and

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always in the woods and always aware
there's a lot of mountain lions, a

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lot of bear. Maybe not a
lot of bear, but there's bear,

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and the brown bear can be nasty. But in a place like Colorado,

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there's definitely the area for something big
like that to live. And I was

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surprised was when I really you know, when I lived in different parts of

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the state, I think that if
I was bigfoot, maybe i'd live way

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up in the mountains. But where
this hat, I guess, way there's

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some real wild places. But my
first experience was when I was living in

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Grand Junction, Colorado. I used
to go for drives with friends that had

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corvettes or whatever. We used to
take one for one up towards Gateway,

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and it was a pretty fun canyon
to drive up, and you can check

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out the stars because there's big canyon
walls, no light pollution from anywhere,

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and there's always a spot that we
would go check out. A friend of

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mine showed me that was next to
the road and it was in a field.

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We just topped the fence across the
little creek and we'd walked those field

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in. It looked like a school
desk, only it was made of concrete.

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It was a really strange thing,
and we always contemplated on what this

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thing was, but it became a
spot I always liked to check out,

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wanted to come back. It was
just a way out there place that we

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could get alone. Nobody was there, and it was just a cool place

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to take a breath and take a
walk away from society. And at this

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time, like I said, I
was living in Grand Junction and I had

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a neighbor named Joe that was a
friend of mine construction worker, and him

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and his wife got in a fight. So we decided to go for a

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drive and I said, I know
a cool place to blow steam off.

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Let's go check out this place up
the canyon. So you're ripping up the

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canyon and finally got to this place
and we hopped the fence and made it

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through the field and I literally said, here it is. I was about

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to say, here is this weird, strange desk. I was saying,

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it's in the middle of this field. I don't know what the hell is

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for, but sure is a cool
spot. Was about to get those words

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out and I turned around and this
roar came out of nowhere, and I

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was walking towards this desk and it
was so dark he couldn't really see much.

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And my friend was wearing flip flops. Is just the thing he did

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when he got home from work.
You put flip flops on all the time.

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So I could hear his flip flops
walking behind me. And this war

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came out. It just was it
throws me and I could hear Joe's flip

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flops running out of the field back
towards the car, and the sound and

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the war came at the same time. And I was turning around to look

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at this spot, and it was
right there, just right in front of

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me, and I remember enough light
to where I could see its head and

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the shape of his shoulders and its
traps around his neck. I could see

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its muscles, and that was standing
right next to me. Like there was

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all the senses at that point.
You could sense something was there, you

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could smell it, you could hear
it. And the sound that it made

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it sounded to me like like it
like we surprised it, or it was

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angry that we were there, because
it was such like a shout beyond into

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any range of any vocal capabilities.
That I'm a metal head and I've never

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heard of anything like that. And
I just as soon as I was making

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sense of everything and seeing its shape
and how because I'm about six' one,

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you know, in boots, and
this thing, I was looking above

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towards it, and I was looking
up at it. It was a foot

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taller than me. I maybe that's
a little maybe that's a little much,

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but I it was there. I
was gone, and I just ran and

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we got to the car. We
didn't say anything, and we drove down

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the canyon and we didn't talk about
it. You didn't want to talk about

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it or anything. And I wanted
to know more so I obviously poked out

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and asked questions. But it was
so frightening to just turn around and something

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just be there. I grew up
around animals, being surprised by an animal,

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and you always can hear them or
smell them, or see them or

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something, and even most things in
a field wouldn't be that surprising, a

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cow or or anything. But this
sound was just it was the only thing

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that I ever heard anything that sounded
like it was those Sierra sounds, and

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it wasn't language or anything. It's
like the thutter roll sounds like a just

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an octave that we just can't get
to, like it changes from some octave

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that humans don't have to, like
a shriek that we don't have, And

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just hearing those sounds, it just
it gives me goosebumps every time I hear

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it, because it puts me right
back in that spot. And it just

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terrified me and him, and I
just was thankful to somebody else seen it

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with me. But I never really
you know, i'd say something he or

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there, but it didn't. It
scared us to death. But he had

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been around all kinds of animals and
he had too, But that was really

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an intense situation. And just to
think that something like that was out there,

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you always hope, but now I
knew. I didn't know what else

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that could be. There's I hope
around there, big horn sheet, and

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people have horses and cows. There's
just nothing that could have been dom Do

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you mind if I ask you a
few questions about that? Oh? Yeah,

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go ahead, man. Were we
able to get a good look at

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what the creature's face looked like.
I couldn't see a like a profile of

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like a brow ridge or anything like
that beyond what have been around the forehead

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because of the way that I was
looking at it, so I couldn't see,

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you know, whether it had like
a big nose or small nose,

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or human face or it was just
there wasn't a lot of hair on it,

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but there was some around the face. But it really didn't have the

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kind of care that I thought that
It would have surprised me. It was

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bald on top. It was.
I know it sounds probably strange to say,

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but the more I picture it in
my mind and think about it,

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I've thought about it a million times, but it just I really wish I

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could have because I would expect it
to be to look human. I would

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think it just there's nothing that looks
like that standing in the field like that,

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and it can make a sound like
that. I don't know, but

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that was something standing up right and
had a very large build. I'd been

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around big bodybuilders, and nothing was
every bit as big as some of the

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biggest guys I've ever known. Anything
that you remember about dimensions of the creature

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that seemed a little weird to you, or the way it moved or anything

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like that. I seen it.
When I turned around and seen it,

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I just seen it barely move a
shoulder and I would say, like when

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I compare him to like a bodybuilder. I had a friend that he's like

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the world's largest bodybuilder. He's six
nine and almost three hundred pounds. He

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was whiter in the shoulders than he
is, and it it was he was

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huge. I would think that he
would around seven feet. My friend Aaron

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that I'm talking about, he's a
very large guy. I would think this

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thing is over three hundred pounds.
Just the mask that it had, just

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saying, shoulders like that, in
the traps, the muscles that I go

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to the neck. It was just
it was big and you could see the

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muscle just when you see a horse
or a cow and then they do have

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hair, but you can see that
there's muscles, veins and stuff. It

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was very It just it it was
huge. So try to put yourself back

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in that situation. Can you remember
what emotions you were feeling inside when you

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had this actually in your sights and
you were you realize what you were looking

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at. I when I seen and
heard it, like the sound it made,

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I felt it in me. And
I always say I just don't I'm

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not a flinch shirt, but I
was frozen, like I could feel like

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vibrating in my body like it was
such a it was almost like it had

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it was like moving air, and
it was like I could feel the vibration

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and I could feel it in my
chest, and it was just it was

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terror. I was I didn't really
think this thing's gonna kill me as much

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as I was just shocked that I
that something was making this noise and it

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was standing in the middle of a
field that nobody was supposed to be in,

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and then it was we were there
and it I don't know. I

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just kept thinking that I surprised it
and I just don't know how that would

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have been possible. I just don't
from what I hear other people say about

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them. I just it was just
I was in shock. I was just

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frozen, and it's I can just
as soon as I turned around and ran,

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I just I remember getting to the
barber fence, crossing it, getting

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in my friends the clips and feeling
out and we were gone. I went

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from being frozen to just being running
for my life, like as fast as

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I could even think about it.
But just I don't know. I guess

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it was just a really fear and
shock. Wow. I mean again,

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sorry of the year that happened.
Oh my gosh, let's see, I

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think that would have had been two
thousand and five or two thousand and six.

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Okay, I think I'm just I
men't thought. I'm trying to think

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about when I lived right in that
area. I'd have to guess around two

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thousand and five, two thousand and
six. Yeah, I was living on

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the Western Slope and Grand Junction,
and yeah, it was a real not

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real mountainous in that area. There
is some mountains, but it's on the

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western slope of the Continental Divide.
It's like it turns the desert right in

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the middle of the continent right there, right in the Rockies. And I

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mean, you can do wilderness,
but there's a lot of mesas, and

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yeah, it definitely can be wild
out there. Have you ever heard of

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a place called Twin Peaks, Bible
Camp and Grand Junction. That's so funny

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because Grand Junction is where I was
living, It's where my family was ended

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up being based from. Yep.
I actually would probably be familiar with where

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I was from, but I'm not
familiar with that particular one. That's crazy,

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Okay. So I'm just curious because
as there is a sighting near a

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Bible Camp in Grand Junction as well. Really, that's so funny. It's

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called just having the Twin Peaks name
is cool too, so that's mysterious.

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Also, I love that show.
But that's interesting. I'm going to have

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to look and look into that one
and see because I always tried to see

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wherever I lived all over in the
US, in any wild places I ask

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people. I always ask the old
people who work in the mines or people

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who work on the ocean or work
in the woods, like you never see

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anything strange. It's important to ask
people like people. Those stories need to

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be remembered for sure. But oh, that's crazy, Yeah, because this

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area, like I've never really looked
on the map exactly where it was,

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but it was going up towards the
town of Gateway and there's a highway on

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route and I had two experiences,
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Valley and the town of Mesa,
and it was a couple. It was

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years later, but it was I'm
gonna have to see if there was any

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more on that Grand Mesa because it's
supposedly it's the biggest flat top mountain in

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the world and there's some wild places
on it. Too. There's always rumors

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about stuff on that mountain. It's
huge and it's flat, that's for sure.

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Before we get to the second one, another question about your encounter near

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the interesting Stone desk when you ran
back to the car with your buddy and

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you sped off. Was there any
conversation in that car or was it nothing

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was said? We were We did
a whole lot of cursing. We mostly

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got to the car. Just that
was pretty much the extent. And there

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might have been, Like I certainly
had a lot to say it, but

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my friend that I was with,
he was just you didn't want to talk

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about stuff. He just wasn't one
of those guys to talk and he was

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really shaken up by it, like
it really terrified him and scared him,

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and he just like he was scared
and he wanted to be home. And

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he was the older guy. When
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Jude, I don't know, nineteen
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thirties. You get a situation like
that, you look at the older person

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and kick a little strength from them
what to do or like, what the

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hell was that you tell me?
When he just was terrified and so I

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just didn't push it, and I
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Like I said, i'd ask people
and the people that I talked with about

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aliens or conspiracies and stuff that ended
up being true. And there's always mysterious

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things in those Four Corners area Colorado. Talked about underground bases and all kinds

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of stuff, And there is some
very mysterious areas down there in that area,

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at real remote places. There's tribes
that disappear and stuff. But I

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would like to know more that area. I hear a lot of people talking

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about skinwalkers and stuff like that in
that area, and I've never heard anybody

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to my face tell me a story
about a skinwalker. So I don't know.

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I do know that these things are
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is real, and my daughter and
my wife, and as soon as much

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as me talking to you, these
things exist. I don't know and what

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power in what form there exists in
this plane. And I've talked with people

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about what they actually thought these were
and how we don't have a body or

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there's no evidence, and whether they
do bury their dead or not. But

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I know some people really laugh this
off. But one of the best conclusions

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that I heard somebody say. It
came from the same person who told me

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that he believes that they were brought
here to mine gold, but then by

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who I don't know, but then
they were taken back or whatever because they

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couldn't problem solve as well the people, you know, the next version or

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whatever, and supposedly a few of
them stayed and you know, as things

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evolved or whatever, they stayed around. I don't know how much I believe

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that. He also had told me
that, you know, they might be

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some type of being that you know, might exist, you know, in

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another dimension that we don't have access
to, that some type of you know

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that some people might be that vibrates
and the frequency that some people just don't

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see. Some people just don't see
deer before they jump across the road,

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or they don't see a snake before
they step on it. And you know,

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even people that are trained to see
stuff don't see stuff sometimes. I'm

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not saying that it counts for things, but I just really thought about that

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a lot when I heard people talk
about what dimensions actually are and how many

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exist, and that makes me think
that there might be other things that exist

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in other dimensions. That we might
consider monsters are or not, or demons

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or angels or who knows. But
I don't know why there's not more people

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coming out and saying how they actually
feel or what that they've had these experiences,

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because I don't know, I've never
really heard a lot of people say

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that. I thought to myself yesterday
when I was thinking about if I was

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going to say something or not,
I'm going to say something because maybe that

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is. I know that people always
draw that the some UFO bigfoot connection that

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sometimes that they see them in the
lights in the same spot that they see

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bigfoots. And there's definitely places that
are like big energy vortexas and stuff like

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that, so I could see something
like that. I don't know. I'm

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sure that you've heard all kinds of
different theories about it. But I always

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thought that was strange. But it
never kept me from wanting to say something

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about it, because I always knew
that somebody was gonna say, oh,

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man, Tom's crazy, He's just
one of those guys. He's just of

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course he saw bigfoot. I never
said anything about seeing bigfoot. I did,

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you know what I mean? I
don't make up. So the cool

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thing about Bigfoot is that, and
a lot of people don't like this,

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But there is no proven truth about
the creature yet because we have in the

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fact that we don't know if it's
interdimensional, we don't know if it's an

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ape or anything, because it hasn't
been captured and it hasn't been studied.

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So if someone says to you,
I know one hundred percent this is the

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thing, No, you don't,
because it hasn't been captured and studied.

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Now you may, like myself personally, I agree with Nawac where I think

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we're looking at undiscovered grade ape.
But like then you hear the Chestnut Ridge

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Stan Gordon side of things, and
you have these UFO sightings and then bigfoot

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sightings along right along with them.
There's all sorts of stuff when it comes

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to a bigfoot out there in the
world, for sure. But definitely think

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that people who see things in the
sky and people see things in the woods,

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so the same type of person,
and they usually hopefully they'll say something

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about it. But there are stories
like those are really I think that it's

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not like something like that would be
so far fetched. I really in that

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part of Colorado, there's always been
Like I said, this talks about there

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being some kind of bass, and
people are always seeing the same types of

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crafts in the sky, and we
literally would talk about if we thought that

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they were government or not. I
never saw any, but I don't know.

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I've heard guys telling stories that I
knew that everything that they said was

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bullshit. And this kid, he
looked us in the face, and the

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only time I ever seen us beyond
this dude, be honest, he said

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that they're going down the highway near
the four Corners and there's a big black

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bee flying right down with power lines, just going right down it real slow,

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and everybody was stopping looking at it, trying to take pictures and stuff,

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and they made him say something,
And I think that's good. But

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in that area, there's a lot
of strange stuff. And I always hope

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living out here in Maine now that
I'm gonna here's some really cool ocean stories

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or something. But as much as
I worked out there, I've seen some

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great white churchs, but nothing cool. There's no big foot out there.

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Nice nice hey. You never know. So you had your awesome sighting in

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Grand Junction Areas, So how long
after did you have your You had a

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sighting and you said Mesa. Yeah, in Mesa. There's a in the

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Grand Valley that Mesa is like,
you know, it's the biggest mountain out

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that you can't miss. It's big
and flat, and that's got a Powder

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Horn ski resort up there. It's
got all kinds of lakes and all kinds

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of wilderness. It's beautiful place.
And I'd have to say this is probably

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around see I think around two thousand
nine, maybe twenty eleven. I really

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wish I would have tried to narrow
down the years better. I'm sorry,

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I just geez, time flies.
Yeah, up there on that Mesa there's

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a house that I rented and it
was in the town of Mesa, and

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there were a lot of wild spots
up there. Right, had some good

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friends that were awesome skiers and snowboarders, and they were always going up in

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these awesome, real wild places and
it was a really interesting place to be

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and I really was like to find
a place to rent up there. It's

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just really far from town. So
I was at the end of this real

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long driveway and they're the corral with
nothing that was ever in it, and

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just a real quiet place up there. Big mountain in the desert and nothing

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in the sky. You always see
the stars. A real beautiful place,

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and I really enjoyed living up there. It's just really far. I was

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up there and this girl I wass
seeing. He just started renting this place,

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and I mean, now you get
home, you'd be exhausted. So

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he finally got home at a decent
time that night, decided we were gonna

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have a drink and go sit on
the top of the truck and look at

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the stars and having some drinks and
looking at the stars and all that.

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I to tell you, I've been
trying to think about how I was going

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to tell the story, but we're
about to talk about some sex for a

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seconds. So me and this girl
we were, we had some sex up

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on top of the suburban that I
had and out there just looking at the

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stars. And this girl I was
with, she she was on her period,

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and I don't know if there had
anything to do with it, but

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we started hearing and breathing right next
to us, and there's no animals in

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the crowd, which is towards where
we were, and we loved it,

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and there's standing right over there by
us. It was it'd like to say

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it was probably it felt like it
was right close to us, but we

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saw the whole damn profile of it, and it wasn't just me that thought,

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so I was thankful for that,
but we were terrified, and I

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didn't make any noise or anything.
We jumped down real quick, got right

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in the truck and drove right down
our driveway, and we were really freaked

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out that we just went from not
really paying attention to anything to having something

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potentially stocked us. It really terrified
us. And our house was right there,

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not real far from it, five
hundred feet away. We got inside

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and it turned off all the lights
and we closed the blinds and we hadn't

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got any good blinds for the place, and they were these little white you

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could pretty much see through them,
and we were terrified it was just going

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to walk up the driveway. We
didn't look at what it did or if

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it stayed there, but it was
just standing there with one arm cocked and

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it ted cocked and that was that. And we seeing it at the same

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time, and she screened and we
got right down and drove the five hundred

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feet down the driveway. What good
that would do, I don't know.

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We were terrified. Locking the door. We thought they it wanted to come

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in or would want to because it's
not where we went. And it really

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was very strange. It's a very
strange story to try to tell people about

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your personal life where about someone you
were with too. But it at that

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time because I just I didn't really
didn't think about what it was or wasn't.

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We were shocked that something was right
there. I didn't really ever since

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I had that experience, I knew
that the damn things existed, but it

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really scared us and we kind of
me and her. The thing that we

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thought was that because maybe she was
menstruating, then maybe it smelled it.

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I don't, like I said,
I'm trying to figure out how I was

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going to put all this, but
I just figured I'd just say it how

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it was, and the only thing
like maybe smell this and walked up or

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something. I don't know, but
it terrified her and it terrified me.

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But we talked about that a lot, and he talked about that even with

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her family, and I mean,
we didn't really you know, the fact

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that it wasn't a man was you
know, if it was just some perverse

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a standing there watching people that would
be Obviously you'd be enraged and want to

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protect whoever you're with and get out
of any dangerous situations. But she clearly

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I could see if she looks like
she was looking at a monster, you

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know, And I mean she kind
of you know, me and her dad

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had kind of talked about Bigfoot before. It says, just like I kind

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of saw, you know, someone's
face being like terrified and shocked and terrified

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real fast. It just sheer terror, because what do you do? Because

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it's at that point I'd already talked
about with people if they were interdimensionals,

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even wanted to come in the house. Closing the blinds and locking the door

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and laying on the floor so they
can't look in the blinds isn't gonna do

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any good. And I just know
that's just a ludicrous strade. I know

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so many people are gonna make fun
of me for that, but I really

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I don't know what part that had
to play in it, but it made

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sense to me almost that That's like
I said, when I had that experience

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towards up in that canyon, I
wish I could have seen a face or

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something, because something like that,
it just doesn't look at things in sea

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faces, in them in just in
trees or in leaves or in rock.

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Something that was standing up right,
it's not dragging its arms on the ground

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and not slouched over. You expect
to look like a human. And I

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really would have liked to have seen
it, But it's just panicking about what

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way anything and anybody's gonna run is
I don't know. I wish I would

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have paid attention more about where it
went, because we have someone freaking out

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so bad that trying to just trying
to get the doors unlocked in them in

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and then back out and then in
the house. It is difficult enough trying

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to figure out where something like that
wants to be. It's just gonna be.

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But that was really how shocked about
that too. And I feel like

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they just they just appeared in spots
in my life, and I think that's

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weird. I don't know if that's
just what they feel like they do for

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other people. But like I said, I felt like I walked up and

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stepped on one's heel pretty much,
and it was like pissed off or surprised

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that I did it, and that
other one has just popped up and hearing

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the breath being around big animals like
cows and horses. You hear something that

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it has big lungs, taking big
breasts like the mucus and their lungs or

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just whatever. You hear them breathing
through their nose or their mouth, and

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just some of real big lungs.
And there was never any cows or horses

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in that corral or even any fields
near it since I started renting that place.

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And it was just something you hear
like that right away. It just

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snaps you right out of whatever you're
doing, and you look right towards what

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the sound is. And I didn't
see a color anything, but that didn't

409
00:29:52.920 --> 00:30:00.240
have but anything that like I said, the canyon like look like that is

410
00:30:00.279 --> 00:30:02.640
bald on top of this one.
You could see ed hair on it.

411
00:30:02.880 --> 00:30:07.160
It was definitely at the shape of
a large hairy man standing there. And

412
00:30:07.440 --> 00:30:11.880
I would have to say, like
dimension wise, that one that's probably I

413
00:30:11.960 --> 00:30:15.359
mean, I looking at my son's
place at out there in the backstand about

414
00:30:15.359 --> 00:30:19.519
eights tall. I don't think that
it would have been that tall. I

415
00:30:19.720 --> 00:30:23.519
think it was probably a little shorter
than that. It was big, I

416
00:30:23.640 --> 00:30:29.599
mean something that tall. I mean, it's definitely a big animal or whatever

417
00:30:29.680 --> 00:30:33.759
it is, But something like that, I mean when you're hearing them breathe.

418
00:30:33.920 --> 00:30:36.920
I hear people, you know,
telling stories about looking them in the

419
00:30:37.039 --> 00:30:41.039
eye or seeing steam coming off of
them and looking at the hairs on their

420
00:30:41.079 --> 00:30:42.920
skin and seeing like the skin and
the hair. Like I'm like, I

421
00:30:44.160 --> 00:30:48.119
like hearing people say that because when
you're looking at something like people have big

422
00:30:48.200 --> 00:30:52.640
foot cutouts in their yards all over
in main they do in Colorado. But

423
00:30:52.759 --> 00:30:59.200
when you're looking at something that's an
animal or that's alive that's consciously looking back

424
00:30:59.279 --> 00:31:02.519
at you. Notice when a bird
is looking at you, You're like,

425
00:31:02.599 --> 00:31:04.559
hey, what's a bird? Squirrels
looking at you, figger, animals,

426
00:31:04.640 --> 00:31:10.440
same thing. But something like that
you're consciously looking at you is terrifying because

427
00:31:10.480 --> 00:31:14.359
usually man, woman in the woods
you use for the most part, you're

428
00:31:14.400 --> 00:31:18.279
not gonna have too much trouble with
something. But I just felt like both

429
00:31:18.519 --> 00:31:21.640
times, just like my space,
all of a sudden, there was something

430
00:31:21.759 --> 00:31:26.400
right in the space that exists around
you. You feet and feel something is

431
00:31:26.480 --> 00:31:30.680
there. And I could definitely say
it wasn't the only person that felt that

432
00:31:30.880 --> 00:31:33.599
either time. And like I said, I pester people about this all the

433
00:31:33.720 --> 00:31:37.359
time, and I think a lot
of my friends when their trips to the

434
00:31:37.400 --> 00:31:41.039
woods, they're drinking and shit like
that, And I just I wonder how

435
00:31:41.200 --> 00:31:44.480
much stuff actually goes on in the
woods that people don't even get to see

436
00:31:44.680 --> 00:31:48.920
because there I take advantage of any
time I'm out there now just in case.

437
00:31:48.079 --> 00:31:52.160
But I don't know if it works
like that, But these times,

438
00:31:52.240 --> 00:31:56.880
I definitely wasn't looking for anything like
that. I'll be honest, it's not

439
00:31:56.039 --> 00:32:00.440
the first time that it has come
up on the show. I'll think of

440
00:32:00.599 --> 00:32:07.200
one and I had to take it
out, Yeah, just because of the

441
00:32:07.319 --> 00:32:09.759
person who's telling the story requests I
take it out. But you're not the

442
00:32:09.880 --> 00:32:15.880
first person that has brought up something
similar. I always wondered that if it's

443
00:32:15.920 --> 00:32:21.119
something that because what this looked like
to me was if they were going to

444
00:32:21.240 --> 00:32:23.039
pro create or something, they would
probably do it like us, like just

445
00:32:23.400 --> 00:32:29.359
another animal seeing another animal doing that. I just don't I think that they

446
00:32:29.480 --> 00:32:32.799
would be interested in it or wondering
why they look like them, or I

447
00:32:32.839 --> 00:32:37.640
don't know. I just I was
always interested that if there was more people

448
00:32:37.720 --> 00:32:42.960
that had that experience, because it
just it makes sense to me too.

449
00:32:43.319 --> 00:32:45.799
And there's been stories of people getting
drugged off and all kinds of stuff.

450
00:32:46.519 --> 00:32:51.960
I don't think anything like that.
I just think that when different species of

451
00:32:52.000 --> 00:32:55.799
animals and maybe they see or hear
and think, oh, they're like us

452
00:32:55.960 --> 00:33:00.240
too, or I don't know who
knows. I'm glad to hear the other

453
00:33:00.279 --> 00:33:04.839
people are at least saying it,
because that's just how you have to do

454
00:33:04.960 --> 00:33:07.119
it. It's some of it's going
to sound stupid, and you as you're

455
00:33:07.519 --> 00:33:09.839
saying it to someone, you're going
to be like, oh damn, oh

456
00:33:09.920 --> 00:33:15.240
damn, I'm gonna sound so stupid
right now. Definitely not. Because there's

457
00:33:15.279 --> 00:33:22.400
an online blog. It's a cryptozoology
blog called cryptomundo dot com, like Craig

458
00:33:22.480 --> 00:33:27.799
Willheater, and he's got an article
where he even talks about this, and

459
00:33:27.880 --> 00:33:32.759
I'll link the article. But there's
been at least one BFRO citing report where

460
00:33:34.440 --> 00:33:40.359
a menstruation was involved. It then
goes on to talking about how that can

461
00:33:40.599 --> 00:33:47.599
attract grizzly bears. People have been
unfortunately killed by grizzly bears that were in

462
00:33:47.759 --> 00:33:52.759
the middle of a menstruation, and
then it kind of ties back into you

463
00:33:52.880 --> 00:33:57.599
were wondering, like if that kind
of thing can attract well, I always

464
00:33:57.680 --> 00:34:00.960
wonder when you hear David plaut As
has said she has so much good information

465
00:34:01.119 --> 00:34:06.039
on people like telling real stories.
I think he's such a good example of

466
00:34:06.400 --> 00:34:09.559
someone that's going out and getting the
stories and leaving them to do their own

467
00:34:09.639 --> 00:34:14.199
work by just telling the story.
And a lot of these people are having

468
00:34:14.280 --> 00:34:16.639
experiences, like some of them,
they're not saying what they're seeing. They're

469
00:34:16.679 --> 00:34:22.360
not looking at an eight And I
always thought, I always wondered, are

470
00:34:22.440 --> 00:34:24.280
we going the wrong way when we
think that, you know what I mean?

471
00:34:24.599 --> 00:34:30.840
I know that sounds so vague,
but maybe they're not as much ape

472
00:34:30.599 --> 00:34:35.559
or human at all. Maybe I
don't know. I always wonder because people

473
00:34:35.599 --> 00:34:37.079
are like, oh, they're just
eight men out in the woods and stuff,

474
00:34:37.079 --> 00:34:40.920
And I mean, you know,
I've been to zoos and seen monkeys

475
00:34:40.960 --> 00:34:47.719
and chimpanzees and stuff like that.
I have a question about your partner during

476
00:34:47.800 --> 00:34:52.679
the second encounter. Did she believe
in Bigfoot before? Oh? Yeah.

477
00:34:52.920 --> 00:34:59.079
The funny thing about me and her
dad, we had so many talks about

478
00:34:59.400 --> 00:35:05.440
he was really big into Bigfoot and
stuff. He was always talking about books

479
00:35:05.440 --> 00:35:09.400
that he was reading and new angles
on the Patterson Gimlin film and stories from

480
00:35:09.440 --> 00:35:15.360
Here The skunkcape stories and stuff,
and he was always giving me his opinion

481
00:35:15.440 --> 00:35:19.119
and what he thought things were.
And she was always part of that by

482
00:35:19.280 --> 00:35:22.239
default, by osmosis, by him
just wanting to learn about it. And

483
00:35:23.599 --> 00:35:27.880
she spent, in all due respect, more time in the woods than I

484
00:35:28.039 --> 00:35:31.840
ever have, and I've she just
was one of those people. Her family,

485
00:35:32.000 --> 00:35:36.639
they grew up just being in the
woods and around animals all the time.

486
00:35:37.400 --> 00:35:43.039
And I knew that everyone thought that, like we were all crazy for

487
00:35:43.159 --> 00:35:46.599
having us talk. But the funny
thing about you asking about this is that

488
00:35:46.800 --> 00:35:52.880
we never felt strange for going up
to her dad and saying, guess what

489
00:35:52.360 --> 00:35:55.920
and guess what happened to us.
It wasn't like that we were I was

490
00:35:57.000 --> 00:36:00.480
like, we just saw one.
He always was always looking in the woods

491
00:36:00.559 --> 00:36:04.679
for stuff, and he's never had
any experiences early that I knew of,

492
00:36:04.760 --> 00:36:07.320
but he always felt like he was
on the trail of it somewhere and always

493
00:36:07.559 --> 00:36:12.320
collecting stories as he could find them
and stuff. But we were excited to

494
00:36:12.400 --> 00:36:15.760
tell him because he just always believed
in it and stuff like that too.

495
00:36:15.159 --> 00:36:21.559
He had guys that worked with breaking
horses and doing many other things that had

496
00:36:21.639 --> 00:36:23.920
dad experiences in the woods. That
were that. He said that at percent,

497
00:36:24.559 --> 00:36:29.880
like he knew that it existed and
it was just something that I think

498
00:36:29.960 --> 00:36:34.480
that there is a lot more people
that considered it something that lives and breathes

499
00:36:34.519 --> 00:36:37.719
and exists that we know of,
and that's I think that works out to

500
00:36:37.840 --> 00:36:44.679
our favor. And I think that
more people are becoming open to saying like

501
00:36:45.000 --> 00:36:49.239
stories that have became like a family
story, something that happened to Grandpa.

502
00:36:49.599 --> 00:36:52.679
They don't want people things like that, or Dad didn't want to say anything

503
00:36:52.719 --> 00:36:58.000
about this during the war or something. These you get these guys coming back

504
00:36:58.039 --> 00:37:02.280
from places like Vietnam having like with
the rock ape story, having fights with

505
00:37:04.079 --> 00:37:07.840
these giant rock apes and stuff like
we're always trying to, you know,

506
00:37:07.199 --> 00:37:13.239
hear cool stories about stuff like that, but no, we were very hipped

507
00:37:13.280 --> 00:37:15.719
to, you know, learning about
Bigfoot or UFOs or trying to get the

508
00:37:15.800 --> 00:37:20.239
information at least because all you can
do is get the information and kind of

509
00:37:20.599 --> 00:37:29.159
sort through like the conversation with her
father that debt turned out okay, that

510
00:37:29.360 --> 00:37:34.880
oh go sideways or anything. Wow, are you the least bit surprised as

511
00:37:35.119 --> 00:37:38.840
tough as they were or I shouldn't
they were are like and the kind of

512
00:37:39.440 --> 00:37:44.159
terrain that they'd been through on horseback
and the stuff that they'd put me through

513
00:37:44.679 --> 00:37:49.039
in the woods for fun with them
on horseback. I know how tough they

514
00:37:49.119 --> 00:37:52.679
are. Like he didn't surprise him
or freak him out or anything like that.

515
00:37:53.440 --> 00:38:00.400
He knew what everybody could handle a
or are very tough people and really

516
00:38:00.440 --> 00:38:02.920
good with the animals. And I
don't know. I guess I can understand,

517
00:38:04.400 --> 00:38:06.559
like with some people being like,
oh, would you be freaked out

518
00:38:06.639 --> 00:38:09.320
to say something? I was psyched
because it's something that you could actually say.

519
00:38:09.360 --> 00:38:13.280
Look, I've got something to say. This is awesome. This has

520
00:38:13.360 --> 00:38:15.960
some weights. I know you've got
stories, but guess what, and guess

521
00:38:16.000 --> 00:38:20.440
who was with me? Just to
have somebody corroborate. And a lot of

522
00:38:20.480 --> 00:38:25.880
times things happen obviously nobody ever has
a camera conveniently or whatever however that always

523
00:38:25.960 --> 00:38:29.760
works. It's just the roll of
the dice. It likes all kinds of

524
00:38:29.840 --> 00:38:31.840
times on the boat, I can't
get my phone out to take a picture

525
00:38:31.880 --> 00:38:36.039
of a big gass lobster or a
shark or something because my hands are wet.

526
00:38:36.440 --> 00:38:40.760
It just works like that sometimes.
But that's that is one of the

527
00:38:40.840 --> 00:38:47.320
most interesting stories and after let's say
there's that night you left, you did

528
00:38:47.360 --> 00:38:52.039
you go back the next day to
look around the area to see if you

529
00:38:52.079 --> 00:38:54.840
could find any evidence or anything.
I thought, No, I didn't.

530
00:38:55.239 --> 00:38:59.800
After that, I kind of joked
about going up to that spot with myself,

531
00:39:00.239 --> 00:39:01.360
you know, maybe I should just
go for a drive up there and

532
00:39:01.480 --> 00:39:06.400
just take a look. And I
gone up that way a little bit for

533
00:39:06.519 --> 00:39:10.280
a couple of jobs I was doing, and I could never really, I

534
00:39:10.960 --> 00:39:15.800
could never really find it in myself
for a reason to want to go back

535
00:39:15.840 --> 00:39:20.800
out there, not because I felt
like there was gonna be something waiting for

536
00:39:20.960 --> 00:39:23.960
me, or that I'd even get
any resolve from it, Because I mean,

537
00:39:24.039 --> 00:39:28.280
it was in the middle of a
field that this weird you know,

538
00:39:28.599 --> 00:39:34.199
at this weird concrete desk. That's
if they literally made a child's desk for

539
00:39:34.440 --> 00:39:37.400
like middle school out of concrete.
It was the most absurdly weird thing.

540
00:39:37.679 --> 00:39:42.039
It was like a modern art piece, like from like someplace in Seattle or

541
00:39:42.119 --> 00:39:47.760
something. It was just obnoxiously weird, and it just I just never I

542
00:39:47.840 --> 00:39:51.400
knew that if I went back and
tried to find some answers, they wouldn't

543
00:39:51.400 --> 00:39:55.800
be there, because that's just how
it would have worked. I knew that

544
00:39:57.119 --> 00:40:00.840
it was just going to be gone
like anywhere else, and that the place

545
00:40:00.880 --> 00:40:02.360
that I lived up in the town
of Maysa, I just had to live

546
00:40:02.440 --> 00:40:06.920
there. It was just part of
living there. I just always was sketched

547
00:40:06.920 --> 00:40:09.039
out about being there, and I
we didn't live there for longing and I

548
00:40:09.159 --> 00:40:13.719
didn't It was a long commute,
so I was able to get out of

549
00:40:13.800 --> 00:40:21.360
that pretty quickly. But it always
left just a weird feeling about just being

550
00:40:21.519 --> 00:40:24.800
around there. There was just a
something like that if you just don't feel

551
00:40:24.880 --> 00:40:30.440
like you have like you something like
that, it can overpower you. And

552
00:40:30.840 --> 00:40:35.840
just it's just it takes you down
a notch knowing that something like that is

553
00:40:35.880 --> 00:40:39.519
around and close. It's not like
being in bear country or anything like that.

554
00:40:39.840 --> 00:40:45.679
It's something that's conscious on a different
level than something that you know,

555
00:40:45.960 --> 00:40:52.360
like a bear. This can problem
solve apparently, and just really it just

556
00:40:52.480 --> 00:40:55.920
left a weird just I say,
like a weird dark energy because it wasn't

557
00:40:55.960 --> 00:41:00.880
bad. It was more just being
freaked out about on like all of a

558
00:41:00.920 --> 00:41:02.599
sudden, this placed way up in
the mountains, I thought was a nice

559
00:41:02.679 --> 00:41:08.199
little secluded little cabin, nice little
place to rent with a nice little cottage,

560
00:41:08.239 --> 00:41:10.760
you know, have a little corral
just in case, you know,

561
00:41:10.800 --> 00:41:14.760
you get a horse or something.
And it just put it like a stain

562
00:41:14.880 --> 00:41:17.920
on it where it just like I
really felt like like it wasn't safe in

563
00:41:19.000 --> 00:41:21.079
the place that you wanted to have
a home at. So I just was

564
00:41:21.159 --> 00:41:24.239
ready to go. I spend enough
time in the woods and stuff where it's

565
00:41:24.280 --> 00:41:27.679
like, even if you wanted to
go back to some of these spots,

566
00:41:28.239 --> 00:41:31.280
I feel like you just gotta do
it by chance to be lucky. I

567
00:41:31.360 --> 00:41:36.199
felt like if I ever looked at
it like I wanted to see something or

568
00:41:36.239 --> 00:41:38.880
find something, I just it wouldn't
work that way. That's if I buy

569
00:41:38.920 --> 00:41:44.519
the lottery ticket guaranteed gonna lose.
Doesn't work that way for me. So

570
00:41:45.639 --> 00:41:47.920
it has to on the fly and
just has to come to me in some

571
00:41:49.119 --> 00:41:52.840
weird way. And there was really
hoping that now that I'm out here in

572
00:41:52.960 --> 00:41:59.000
Maine, like I could start talking
with some people about any experiences that they'd

573
00:41:59.079 --> 00:42:01.920
have, and you that story from
guy cuts Wood up north of here,

574
00:42:02.559 --> 00:42:07.679
like that was really encouraging. Here. That's what made me decide I've got

575
00:42:07.800 --> 00:42:10.639
to at least send an email in
and at least say something, because that's

576
00:42:10.679 --> 00:42:16.119
somebody I could literally probably I bet
you I cut trees and with people that

577
00:42:16.320 --> 00:42:20.239
know who that is, you know, I bet you I can figure out

578
00:42:20.280 --> 00:42:22.519
who it is and probably sit down
and talk with them if they wanted to,

579
00:42:23.119 --> 00:42:25.840
you know what I mean. And
that makes me feel good to know

580
00:42:27.039 --> 00:42:30.480
that people that are having real experiences
like that, And like I said,

581
00:42:30.599 --> 00:42:34.079
I'm only you know, I'm just
a guy on a pod who's talking to

582
00:42:35.280 --> 00:42:38.440
you on a podcast about a story
that I've had. Like it's only as

583
00:42:38.519 --> 00:42:42.920
real as it is to us,
you know, to our mind and how

584
00:42:42.960 --> 00:42:47.079
we accept it. And you know, I feel like you know that story

585
00:42:47.199 --> 00:42:51.400
right there. And knowing that I
could, literally, probably if I wanted

586
00:42:51.440 --> 00:42:53.239
to, you know, if they
were accepting of it, sit down and

587
00:42:53.320 --> 00:42:57.960
talk about it like I want to, you know, that made me want

588
00:42:58.000 --> 00:43:01.079
to make sure that more people could
feel that way, Like more people were

589
00:43:01.079 --> 00:43:06.760
gonna start saying these experiences that I
mean, you know that story in particular.

590
00:43:06.920 --> 00:43:10.400
I mean, I know all about
that wild that country is, and

591
00:43:10.840 --> 00:43:15.159
I've always joked about wanting to go
up there and cut wood, but I

592
00:43:15.239 --> 00:43:17.199
don't know if I'm man enough.
There's some tough country up there too.

593
00:43:17.320 --> 00:43:21.079
Maine is a lot more wild than
people think it is. That's for sure.

594
00:43:21.280 --> 00:43:23.960
Maine is crazy, but it's awesome. I would feel that if you

595
00:43:24.119 --> 00:43:30.840
keep asking up there, you're gonna
you're gonna run into some stories, no

596
00:43:30.000 --> 00:43:36.159
doubt. Oh and I've heard I've
heard people talk about seeing big cats in

597
00:43:36.280 --> 00:43:39.320
the state. Like I used to
fish off a boat in Addison. That's

598
00:43:39.400 --> 00:43:44.639
we call this down East Maine where
I'm at now. And like I live

599
00:43:44.719 --> 00:43:49.000
in down East Maine and I work
on Mount Desert Island, and I used

600
00:43:49.000 --> 00:43:54.519
to fish farther from here what they
call down East towards Addison Long Drive,

601
00:43:54.679 --> 00:43:58.639
and I was going to the boat
one morning. We've seen it, just

602
00:43:58.760 --> 00:44:02.960
a big giant cat out here,
and they've never seen big black mountain lions

603
00:44:02.960 --> 00:44:07.440
out here. And m I gez
I was mountain lion Maine all the granted.

604
00:44:07.760 --> 00:44:09.840
Oh man, it's be a great
place. I'd be here. It's

605
00:44:09.920 --> 00:44:16.920
pretty cold though, yeah, definitely. So I grew up in western mass

606
00:44:17.079 --> 00:44:22.760
Massachusetts, in a town called Northfield, so we would vacation. We would.

607
00:44:22.920 --> 00:44:27.280
We've done the whole kind of bunk
port thing Camden, Kitterie. We've

608
00:44:27.320 --> 00:44:32.280
also gone hiking up near not actual
Kataden, but like the base of Katten

609
00:44:34.199 --> 00:44:40.039
run in with a moose and his
family there when I was about eleven or

610
00:44:40.079 --> 00:44:45.199
twelve in my family. That's another
story. But yeah, that whole the

611
00:44:45.280 --> 00:44:49.599
main area is wild and especially when
you get up you go north, up

612
00:44:49.639 --> 00:44:52.440
by the Canadian border, gets crazy
up there. But there are some really

613
00:44:52.559 --> 00:44:57.960
interesting bigfoot things that come up in
Maine. There's this one story you should

614
00:44:58.000 --> 00:45:01.400
look up. I believe it's called
the Meddy Bemps Howler. That's a fun

615
00:45:01.440 --> 00:45:06.599
one to look up. There's not
a lot about it. But yeah,

616
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actually think that I'm on someone's channel, you know, because I thought I

617
00:45:12.559 --> 00:45:15.719
on YouTube, like Bob Gimblin.
There's you know, he's a great one,

618
00:45:15.840 --> 00:45:21.960
you know, less less croud,
like I love less like his work,

619
00:45:22.039 --> 00:45:24.119
and I think he's very credible,
respectful man. I think he goes

620
00:45:24.159 --> 00:45:30.400
about it very professionally, very respectfully. He is definitely. I think that

621
00:45:30.599 --> 00:45:35.599
his experience in Alaska, like I
thought that was really you'd figure that people

622
00:45:35.800 --> 00:45:38.000
spend their lives in all kinds of
jungles and countries would come back with all

623
00:45:38.119 --> 00:45:42.519
kinds of stories. Sometimes it just
doesn't happen. Like that's when you're literally

624
00:45:42.639 --> 00:45:45.239
not paying attention or something. Yeah, he's got but there is some good

625
00:45:45.559 --> 00:45:50.119
information out there. And one of
those guys in one of those channels that

626
00:45:50.280 --> 00:45:54.280
saw you called it. It was
the medi Bepps Howler Medi Meddy Bemps Howler.

627
00:45:54.679 --> 00:45:58.280
I want to say it might have
been on. There's an old site

628
00:45:58.360 --> 00:46:00.599
called Bigfoot encounters dot com. You
would love it. You should check it

629
00:46:00.639 --> 00:46:06.400
out. Oh hell yeah, yeah, it's got some really great old stories

630
00:46:06.480 --> 00:46:10.280
and accounts. Old researcher Bobby Short, who's unfortunately not with us anymore,

631
00:46:10.400 --> 00:46:15.199
but Bigfoot encounters dot com is great
to check out. Oh, I'm gonna

632
00:46:15.679 --> 00:46:20.920
go out. Thank you for letting
me now. Yeah, there's been there's

633
00:46:20.920 --> 00:46:24.320
always like the Rocky Mountain Bigfoot Organizations
one of the first places when I was

634
00:46:24.440 --> 00:46:29.199
younger, and this happened that I
started trying to put my story in and

635
00:46:29.440 --> 00:46:31.360
and all fairness, Like, only
in the past couple of years have I

636
00:46:31.559 --> 00:46:36.559
even decided to actually, probably in
the past eight years, I decided to

637
00:46:36.559 --> 00:46:39.880
actually get a smartphone. Like you
never wanted a computer, never wanted email

638
00:46:40.000 --> 00:46:44.920
dresses or any of that stuff.
And so like now I'm actually like trying

639
00:46:44.960 --> 00:46:49.239
to find a lot of disinformation actually
finding some good stuff, and you wouldn't

640
00:46:49.239 --> 00:46:52.639
have found you or any of that
stuff any other way. And I'm glad

641
00:46:52.719 --> 00:46:54.920
that if there is such a good, easy route to do that, like

642
00:46:55.039 --> 00:46:59.480
you said once again, the platform, it's great to have it, dude.

643
00:46:59.639 --> 00:47:02.159
Thank you so much. Absolutely,
Tom. I'm so glad that you

644
00:47:02.280 --> 00:47:06.840
reached out to me and we are
able to chat for a little bit about

645
00:47:07.000 --> 00:47:10.119
your encounters, and I hope that
you keep in touch and if you ever

646
00:47:10.199 --> 00:47:14.920
run any into anything up in Maine, definitely let me know, or if

647
00:47:14.960 --> 00:47:20.159
you ever get back to Colorado and
anything out from there, definitely that as

648
00:47:20.239 --> 00:47:24.480
well. You're a Bigfoot Society art
goal is to provide a platform for those

649
00:47:24.639 --> 00:47:30.920
that have encountered Bigfoot to share their
encounter environment. But we need to hear

650
00:47:30.079 --> 00:47:36.679
your story. If you've experienced something
that you just can't explain, please send

651
00:47:36.760 --> 00:47:42.559
me an email at Bigfoot Society at
gmail dot com. Then we can start

652
00:47:42.599 --> 00:47:46.639
the conversation. And I know a
lot of you have not shared your encounter

653
00:47:46.920 --> 00:47:52.639
at all. It's been twenty years
and it's time that you get this off

654
00:47:52.719 --> 00:47:55.639
your chest and then you can get
some well deserved rest, because I know

655
00:47:55.760 --> 00:48:00.960
you haven't been sleeping. I understand
what you're going going through, and I

656
00:48:00.039 --> 00:48:01.840
appreciate every one of you listening