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Season 1

At six years old, Lynn Gaspaire says he came face-to-face with a Sasquatch while picking blackberries at Ocean Shores, Washington—and even held its hand.


That 1959 encounter began a lifetime of extraordinary experiences.


Lynn shares his memories of a pregnant female near Mt. Adams, a massive 9-foot male throwing rocks near Killen Creek, and an incredible 1972 encounter at Lake Cushman where he found himself just feet away from a family of Sasquatches.


He describes their faces, hands, teeth, vocalizations, movements, feeding behavior, family dynamics, and the moments of apparent communication that stayed with him for decades.


These are some of the closest and most detailed Sasquatch encounters ever shared on Bigfoot Society.


Originally aired as Bigfoot Society Episode 550 on October 7, 2024, this conversation with Lynn Gaspaire is one you need to hear from beginning to end.


🎧 Listen now and decide for yourself what Lynn encountered in the forests of Washington.

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You're listening to Big the Society and I'm Jeremiah Byron.

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In this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to

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bring you first hand encounters from people who say they've

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seen something impossible. From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers

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to quiet farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere,

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and each one leaves us with more questions than answers.

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These are the voices of the people who've lived it.

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To settle in, because today you'll hear another account that

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just might change the way you see the woods forever.

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So stay with us. Please keep Jeremiah in your prayers

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as he continues his fight against cancer. For more updates

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about his medical journey, please go to the carring Bridge

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link in the show notes. Thank you all right, Big

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the Society have got the privilege of talking to mister

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Lynn guess Pear today. He's an individual that I found

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from the great book Sasquatch Face to Face by Tom Cantrell.

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Lots of great stories in there, and thankfully he was like, yes,

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I definitely come on, we can we can chat about

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what I've experienced. So Lynn, it's great to have you

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on the show today.

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Well, thank you for inviting me to be on the show.

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And it's all part of my research to help people

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understand big understanding foot I am in the book Sasquatch

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Face to Face. I did write chapter.

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Nine absolutely, and we were having quite the conversation before

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we started recording. We were talking about, you know, you're

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involved with all sorts of stuff. You talked to a

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lot of really cool people, and it's everyone from I mean, well,

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do you mind me saying who? What kind of people

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you you talked to?

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That's fine, all right?

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You talk to everyone from doctor Meldrum to Bob Gilan,

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and you just had some really interesting conversations with some

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really interesting people. And yeah, I'm excited to talk to you.

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So Lynn, take me back right to where this started.

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For you, back to it sounds like age six.

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All right. This is a true story. It happened in

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nineteen fifty nine at Ocean Shores, Washington, which is a

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vacation area where people go to dig clams. And the

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families were there and digging clams. Doctor limits and came

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back to the duplex to clean clams, and being the

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littlest guy there, I got to go outside out back

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and looking for something to do. And behind the duplex

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was this big BlackBerry patch running from right to left.

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It was about twenty foot long and about seven eight

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foot tigh, and it was just loaded with blackberries. So,

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being a six year old who liked blackberries, I was

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going to pick blackberries. And by the shed behind the

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Gooplex there was three one gallon white plastic buckets that

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God damn. When I went over to the blackberries bushes

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and I started picking the low hanging clusters of blackberries.

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And while I was picking the blackberries, I would ever

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now and they hear like something pull on a vine,

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or i'd see a vine snatch move and like a

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sucking like like somebody was slurping berries or something off

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the vine. And I would look around and I didn't

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see anybody or anything. So I went back to picking

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the blackberries and filling the buckets, and there'd be a

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pull on the bush or a vine would push and

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some breaking, and I'd hear that sucking sound and I'd

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look again. Nothing. So I decided to work higher on

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the pat. So I went over to the shed which

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was about ten feet away from the patch, and I

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got this old fashioned wooden step ladder and I came

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over and I put it up next to the BlackBerry patch.

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I had about a bucket and half of berries left.

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And as I started picking the berries, i'd climb up

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the step ladder and dererek be the pull on the

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bush again and the noise, and I'd look at see nothing.

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And I got about halfway up, and as I'm picking

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black berries, right up in front of me comes his

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black hand. It's the right hand. It's covered with hair

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clear down to the fingernails. It's got fingernails and has

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an opposing thumb. It looks like a human hand, but

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only bigger, and it's covered with fine black hair. It

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pulls berries over to the side. And I'm not up

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high enough where I can look over the patch yet,

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and so I look at this and I'm going, well,

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was that that a person or something? And so I

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pick some more and I reach over the pole a

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cluster to me, and this hand comes up again. It's

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a right hand. It's covered with hair from the fingernails

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clear down the wrist and the porch of the arm

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that I can see. And this hair is fine black hair.

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It's about an inch or so long, and it pulls

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the berries over and I'm picking berries, and I keep

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thinking to myself, is this some person or something, because

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I've seen the hand look like a human hand, only bigger.

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And so I'm back to picking the berries and the

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hand comes up again and it gets a hold of

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a cluster of berries right next to me. So I

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reach over with my left hand and I touched the

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index finger and the forefinger on the right hand and

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it pulls back, and I go, oh, that's interesting. And

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so I go to start picking and the hand comes

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back real slow, and so I reach overnight again. It's

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the hair is soft and the hand doesn't pull the

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waist stays there for a little bit, and then we

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go back to picking the berries and I reach up

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to my left to get a higher cluster of berries.

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Up comes the right arm, and it's covered from hair

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as far as I can see top and bottom. It

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grabs the combine and because it pulls it down, and

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I go, oh, that's the motion and the sound that

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I was hearing. Whatever this is on the other side

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of the bush is doing it. And so I pick

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more berries, and I reach up to get a cuts

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of berries, which is almost the area with the hand.

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The hand comes up and this time it touches my hand.

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Its fingers are across my index finger and forefinger on

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my left hand, and it pulls the uh the berries

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down to a board be bought it in front of me,

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and I'm just looking at this like what is this?

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So I pick some berries off with my right hand.

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It pulls them over and in the meanwhile, the left

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arm comes up on the other side of the bush

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and pulls down more berries. And this is what we're doing.

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So we keep doing this, and I'm picking berries and

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I come up a couple more higher. I fill up

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the second but I'm working on the third bucket. Well,

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now I'm up where I'm about the third fourth wrong

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on the ladder. I can see over it. And as

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I'm picking berries, the hand comes up and gets a

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hold of some berries right straight in front of me.

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And I take my right hand and I just put

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it down right on the on the hand and it

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doesn't move back, and it pulls it back, and I

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reach over to get another club for berries with my

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with my right hand, up comes the left arm. It's

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covered from the hair from hand to shoulder, top and bottom.

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The hair between an inch to two inches long. Black.

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The skin on the fount of the hand is lighter colored.

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The nails are dark human looking nails opposing thumb, and

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it gets a hold of my hand as it comes down.

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And so we're doing this back and forth. So I

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finally get next to the top rung and I reach

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up to get one of higher cup. Up comes the

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arm again and it pulls it down. It stuff bombos

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right in front of my face. I pick some berries.

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It ticks some berries, and I hear the slurfing noise again.

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So I go So the time I come up and

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I'm getting ready to do it, and I just for

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some reason I heard like a noise, like a grunt

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or something, and I look down down to my left,

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on the opposite side of the bush of maybe eighteen

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twenty point story, there's a face. It has a tan

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colored forehead that slopes back. The head on top is

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covered with black hair. It's wider at the back and

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is that the front It goes up, but it doesn't

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have a sagular crest. I can see ears that are

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about twice the size of a average human there. The

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ears are black colored with fine, maybe quarter inch long

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hair on it. And I look right into the face.

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It has brown eyes, black pupils. There's whites in the eye.

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It has a flat and nubian style nose with almond

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shaped nostrils. The skin is a dark tan color. It's

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got like a full beard, an inch long hair on

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its face that has longer the distance between the bottom

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of the nose and the lip is longer than a

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average adult. And it has no visible neck. And I'm

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looking down. It has no clothes on as far as

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I can see down. It is covered in the hair.

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And I'm looking at this and I'm trying to as

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a six year old, figure out what this is. My

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first thought was, as an Afro American kid, why would

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an Afro American child or teenager be out picking BlackBerry's

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nude all hair covery? So I know it wasn't that,

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And it didn't have a snout, it had a face,

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it had a nose, chin, ears, no visible neck, all

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covered in black hair. So I'm looking at it, and

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being a six year old, I'm curious. I'm not afraid

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of it. And I sit, I speak to it, and

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I say, are you picking blackberries too? The biggest and

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the juiciest ones and the sweetest ones. Are up high.

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It kind of takes a sad at me, and as

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I reach out to get some blackberries, it reaches up.

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It takes a hold of vine and my hand it

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brings it down in front of it. It try towards

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me and I take them. It takes them, and I'm

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looking at this and I talk to it again, and

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I go, can you hear me? Can you talk? Because

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I'm trying to be its friend, I'm trying to make

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friends with it. It doesn't answer anything, and I started

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to feel just super sad because it doesn't talk, and

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I just for some reason reached up and I touched

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my right ear with my right pointing finger, and I go,

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can you hear? It reaches up with its left hand

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and it touches its left ear, and I'm going, is

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it mimiging me? I'm thinking this to myself or is

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it telling me that it can hear? And I go

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up and I touched my ear again, can you hear me?

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It does the exact same thing back, so I'm thinking

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of a six year old it can hear me. Then

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I felt super sad and I'm looking at it in

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this face and I say, how sad you can hear,

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but you can't talk because I thought it you couldn't speak.

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It kind of grunts and it looks at me and

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just me a six year old right from the heart.

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I say, you need a friend. Can I be your friend?

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I just ask it to be I can be his friend.

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It takes with its left hand. It gets the hold

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of a cluster of blackberries, like hand somebody over it,

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and it hands the blackberries to me. I take him

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with my right hand, and it puts its left hand

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kind of like at the waist level out palma to

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the left side of me. I take the blackberries. I

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picked some, and then I take a clump of blackberries

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in the exact manner that it handed to me. I

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hand it back to it and it takes it with

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its left hand, and I put my left hand down

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flat in the palm of its hand or holding hands.

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I'm on the ladder, he's on the other side of

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the black fish, and it reaches out and we put it.

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At that moment, I just felt this connection like we

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just became friends. And later on through research, I learned

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that blackberries or any type of berries, is a significant

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part of their survival. So from a big foot a

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gift of blackberries or berries to you, that's a pretty

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significant gift of friendship. And I learned that from discussions

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with Tom Cantrell. So this is what it did. And

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we went on picking berries and touching hands, hold hands

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back and forth. I would talk to it. I never

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thought the walk around the patch and uh, we kept

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doing this. We were friends as far as I could

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save it. Being a six year old, I just made

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friends with whatever this was. It wasn't a no for

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American kid. It was this big hair covered animal creature

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that was about six foot six six and six six

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six covered with hair, that picked backberries with me. The

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people that were in the opposite end of the of

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the do had a lab and the lab come out,

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fired out running. It started barking and growling. It could

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smell the bigfoot as all that I could figure, and

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the Bigfoot knit went at it, growling, shaking the bushes.

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And when it came out started, I turned to the

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left and the ladder kicked out for me and I

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hit the ground with a thump on my bottom. The

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ladder went down one of my bucket, last buck of bear.

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It landed between the ladder legs on the ground and

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I'm on the ground and the lab is just I

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mean it's trying to, I guess, protect me, and the

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bigfoot's trying to protect me, and they're going at it

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back and forth. Well, it comes out from behind the

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patch going on the trail to go into the woods,

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and it has to pass under a Douglas fur and

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there's a dead branch about four inches stick that sticks

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out and it comes out, reaches up with its right hand,

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grabs that branch, just snaps it down, breaks it off,

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hits the other end on the ground and it's got

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like a three and a half four foot club and

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it turns so ms waist. It puts its left hand

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out and it's facing the dog and they're at each other.

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No doubt in my mind that this whatever it was

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was fictioning to walk this dog. And people are starting

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to hell and scream and come out, and I'm still

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sitting on the ground looking right at it. And it

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goes down the path and about ten fifteen feet down

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the path there's a little swale there's a dead stump

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and a bow down tree. It goes down behind into

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the little swale there hole there and behind the stump,

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and it just drops down, and I'm sitting on the ground.

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I can look and it's looking in my direction. And

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the people come out and they called it. They're calling

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the dog off. The dog didn't go after it. It

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came back towards my direction, and my parent, my mom

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came out, and my grandmother come out, and they are going,

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what's going on here? And the owner says, well, the

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lab door went after a bear or something that was

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near your child. Now we've got to stop right here

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and reflect back. Two things. One who picks blackberries and

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the BlackBerry patch barefoot and what bear runs on two feet?

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Can reach up with the red of the right hand,

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four fingers of palm and opposing thumb and break off

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a branch and break it off on the ground and

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turn while standing on two feet and look at the

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dog and have that club held about shoulder heights. Yeah,

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that's not a bear. So I get escorted off into

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the into the duplex and they pick up two of

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my buckets of berries, and everybody starts asking me questions

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about what I saw, what happened, And that scared me

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more than what happened outside, because these are adults, and

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you know, and I don't know truly how to explain him.

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In a park warden or a sheriff or something shows

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up to remember the green uniform, and they're describing this

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and my grandfather comes over and he asked me. He says,

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describe to me what it looks like. And I described

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it to him and I said it had a face

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covered in hair, like a teenager with a beard, and

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one of the dolls maybe The warden or said, does

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he know the difference between what a bear is? And

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my grandfather says, oh, yes, he knows what a bear is,

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no problem, and I did at that age. And so

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my grandfather was asking me to describe it, and he says,

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didn't have a muzzle. Did it have a nose? I said,

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had a nose? And I reached up and touched my

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grandfather's nose, uh and those like this, and he says

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that I said, and he asked me more. I said,

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had ears on the side of it's not on top.

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And I said, I had a chin. I touched my

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grandfather's chin. And one of the adults says, he's describing

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a bigfoot, a sasquatch. And that's what I really connected

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at That's what I saw because I knew at that

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age what a bear looked like, and this was not

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a bear. So I asked him, well, did you bring

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my berries in? And I said, there's there's three buckets. Well,

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we brought two in, and my grandfather says, Patty, you

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guys and valiers and my grandfather go out and get

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his other bucket. My two uncles went outside. They walked

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around the back side of the the patch and they

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found thirteen and a half fourteen inch quadruple e barefoot

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footprints with a little like a dirt in the track

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going down the path to where I said it stepped

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off behind the stuff, and then they found tracks of

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it coming back. So they walked back and I had

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told them that the ladder had landed on its side,

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the legs apart, and the other bucket of berries was

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between the legs. When they got there, the bucket was

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picked up, and it's about all the berries were put

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back in the bucket, and the ladder was put together

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and laid next to the the bush. And they had

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followed the tracks back from where it went off up

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to the bucket to where the bucket the berries were.

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What would a friend do? It came back and that

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was what started out for me, and I truly believe

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that that because of that incident and the physical contact

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with that bigfoot led to many of the other encounters

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that I had with bigfoot from then until throughout my life.

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I believe is you make friends with them, they know you.

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From my observations, if one knows you, I would put

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forth to the whole Bigfoot family, no matter where they're

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at or where they're at through the state, they'll recognize.

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You, I would agree. And I think that goes both

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ways too. If you're recognized as someone who has bad

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intentions or is not a friend, that is going to

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go across the family.

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Yes, that does. I've listened to a lot of people

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in Washington State and say, well, I've out looking for

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forty years, I've never seen the Bigfoot, And I go,

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what's your intentions? What are you doing? Well, we're trying

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to follow over during I said, if you're doing things,

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you know with certain expectation intentions, they're going to respond

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to that without a doubt. A bigfoot can read your

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facial expressions, it can read your body language, and it

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can uh understand your voice inflection. And I had never

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any time felt threatened by that bigfoot. It kind of

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felt like I had a big friend that was going

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to watch out for me and see that I wasn't

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going to get hurt while we were picking blackberries. Uh,

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it was curious. It definitely had intelligence. It definitely had

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patience because you know what teenager would put up with

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a six year old.

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Oh, absolutely, it's It's probably one of the best accounts

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I've heard of them in regards to quick intelligence. It's

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just incredible how many points in that account it shows

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its quick intelligence. Yes, I'm curious. You know there are

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points when you actually had contact, physical contact with the bigfoot.

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Do you remember if didn't have a smooth skin, or

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do you remember anything about how that felt.

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It felt soft, its hair and felt very soft. Of

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course this was a juvenile. The skin was soft. It's

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definitely a very much aware of its strength because it

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never like grabbed me. It would touch in the hole,

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but it was not hard. It was very light and

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very gentle, and if I moved a cook to move

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my hand away, it would let go. Of course, it

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could probably see me more than I could see it,

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because I still had some of the screen from the

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top of the berry patch. Where it standing up could

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look up and see me more clearly, right wow, until

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I'd look down.

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After you had this encounter, did it put you down

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a path right away for trying to find them again

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or having interactions or was there a time period before

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you had your next interaction.

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I was always curious about my friend and when we

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would go back there, if we went back to that

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same spot, I would look for it, especially on the

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blackbird patches. My next encounter when I saw Bigfoot was

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six years about six years later, ten years later, nineteen

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sixty nine at Killing Creek, Mount Adams, and we were

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camping there and it had been fishing and the older people,

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the family members, had decided to take a nap and

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there was a huckleberry patch down the road from where

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we were camp So I went to my mom and

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I asked her for her tumperware ball. I was going

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to go down to the huckleberry patch and cuckleberries. So

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I did that, and I got the ball from my

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mom and I up the road, uh maybe seventy five

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hundred yards and there was a big sloping downhill that

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was covered. It was a bit logged off area. It

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was that BlackBerry huckleberries and ferns and stuff all the

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way down like one hundred and fifty yards to the woodline,

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and then over maybe seventy five to the opposite woodline.

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And as I stepped off the road to the edge

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of the of the patch where the huckleberries were, I

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heard too high pitched, two toned like people say a

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mechanic bird whistle. I can't whistle with like. And I

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just look and I look around, and I don't see nothing.

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And I take a step tore into the going into

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the patch and the huckleberry bushes and the grass like

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something's walking going straight away from me down the hill.

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So I thought, is maybe I walked up on a

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deer or something. And I looked at the huckleberries near

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me bushes, and here's something where people miss. All of

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the branches on top where the berries would be were missing,

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like they were neatly clipped off or broken off. And

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I'm looking at this and this is doesn't look right.

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And I hear the whistle again from down at the

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bottom of the hill, and I look in that direction. Yeah,

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about fifty feet in front of me, the grass goes

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open and closed again. But this is going left to

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right on the brow of the little rolling skills as

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it goes down and it's motioning, and it disappears behind

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a stump with rotten stump has got huckleberries have going out.

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And I look at that and I go, maybe I

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stepped on the deer. So I went a little bit

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further into the patch to look for huckleberries that I

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could pick, and I noticed at the bushes where there

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were not the twigs and stuff that had berries on it,

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next to it, there was like a pile and a

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scattering of twigs all about the same size, maybe a

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berry on it or maybe a leaf on it. Later,

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like in ninety seven too, I actually got to observe

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a female bigfoot picking huckleberries and how she would break

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them off and pull off with her lips and then

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just drop the twigs. I go. I was able to

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put that together, And so I kept picking the blackberries,

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and every now and then I see emotion in the grass,

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and I didn't think nothing of it. The only thing

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I could smell was dirt grass and ripe huckleberries. And

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I looked at my bucket and I wasn't getting whold.

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I wasn't getting very picking huckleberries. So I decided I

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had I was gonna make like a cloth or a

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basket or something out of my T shirt. So I

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pulled off my sweatshirt and I laid it up on

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the bushes, took my T shirt off, tied it in

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a knot so there was no holes at the arms

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or sleeves. I had like a basket. And I went.

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As I went to put my shirt back out, I'm

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looking through it, and the brush right in front of

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me moves and I look at it, and I get

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the glimpse of the right side of like a head,

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a shoulder, a fat belly, and a hip going through

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the brush. And man, I come up and just hold

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dead still because black black, shiny hair huckleberry patted. The

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first thing that comes to my mind is bear, like

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nine ten years old. I go hold still. So I

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hold still, and I don't smell a bear. I don't

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hear a bear, I don't see it. And I wait

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and everything's quiet. Okay, nothing there. So I go over

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to the bushes and I put my little T shirt

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basketing into the bush and I shake the and I

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started getting huckleberries, and I would move along and every

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now and then out of the side of my eye,

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i'd see that motion through the the brush. I'd catch

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a glimpse of black hair, a body part, but it

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was kind of paralleling me and going towards the opposite

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side of the woods. See nothing, smell nothing. Okay. So

459
00:30:24.599 --> 00:30:27.920
I'm doing this and I'm picking in the black huckleberries

460
00:30:27.920 --> 00:30:30.400
and filling up my bowl, and I'm looking down the

461
00:30:30.440 --> 00:30:33.160
path in front of me, and it goes. The path

462
00:30:33.240 --> 00:30:37.319
goes over the little hill and into the woods that

463
00:30:37.319 --> 00:30:46.160
I could see under the big evergreen trees, and right

464
00:30:46.160 --> 00:30:50.559
at the edge of the wood there's like five small hucklebars,

465
00:30:50.599 --> 00:30:53.519
but I can see the path between them going into

466
00:30:53.559 --> 00:30:58.680
the woods. So I get just about twenty feet from

467
00:30:58.680 --> 00:31:03.720
that spot and I'm filling up my bowl and there's

468
00:31:03.960 --> 00:31:08.559
the motion from my left side. The bushes are open

469
00:31:08.599 --> 00:31:11.319
and closing, and this time I can see the form

470
00:31:11.359 --> 00:31:16.119
and it's black. It's on all fours. I can't make

471
00:31:16.160 --> 00:31:18.240
out a distinguishable head, but I can see it's got

472
00:31:18.240 --> 00:31:20.960
a head. I get part of it right ear the

473
00:31:21.039 --> 00:31:23.119
right side of it's coming from left to right, and

474
00:31:23.119 --> 00:31:26.319
it's going towards the woods. So I just hold still

475
00:31:27.200 --> 00:31:30.599
and I have like squatted down, and I changed to

476
00:31:30.599 --> 00:31:35.480
a kneeling position, and I checked my bowl and the

477
00:31:35.720 --> 00:31:40.240
blast and I look up looking down this path that

478
00:31:40.319 --> 00:31:42.960
goes under the trees, and I can't see the path

479
00:31:43.079 --> 00:31:47.799
underneath the tree. I go, that's odd because I previously

480
00:31:47.799 --> 00:31:52.440
could see underneath it. And about this time, this black

481
00:31:52.559 --> 00:31:57.680
form rocks back into a squatting position and I just

482
00:31:58.079 --> 00:32:01.160
freeze and I'm looking right at it, and it's looking

483
00:32:01.200 --> 00:32:08.119
at me. And I'm kneeling down and I left foot down, right,

484
00:32:08.200 --> 00:32:11.400
knee down, and I look right at it, maybe twenty

485
00:32:11.720 --> 00:32:19.599
faces away. It's looking at me, and I kind of

486
00:32:19.599 --> 00:32:23.200
straighten up a little bit and it at the edge

487
00:32:23.240 --> 00:32:26.440
of the five blue past it. It rocks up into

488
00:32:26.440 --> 00:32:30.359
a squatting position. I can make out the arms, the belly,

489
00:32:31.240 --> 00:32:35.039
and the head, and it's got the wider in the

490
00:32:35.119 --> 00:32:39.319
back ears on the side, flat nose is covered in black.

491
00:32:40.079 --> 00:32:42.400
And I'm looking at that in my mind saying, you've

492
00:32:42.400 --> 00:32:46.960
seen that before. And I look at it and I

493
00:32:47.039 --> 00:32:50.960
know it's not a bear, and my mind is racing back,

494
00:32:51.000 --> 00:32:53.160
and I keep going back when I was younger. I've

495
00:32:53.200 --> 00:32:56.720
seen this before. I've seen this before. And so I

496
00:32:56.839 --> 00:33:00.720
stand up and I take a step to the right.

497
00:33:00.839 --> 00:33:02.880
The roads up to my right. I'm gonna go up,

498
00:33:03.400 --> 00:33:07.680
and I take a step to my right and it

499
00:33:07.759 --> 00:33:13.480
stands up. It's standing there on two feet. It's more

500
00:33:13.519 --> 00:33:16.279
of a left profile to me at this time. And

501
00:33:16.319 --> 00:33:18.480
it takes a step forward and stands yell and it

502
00:33:18.519 --> 00:33:21.480
turns from the waist and it's looking right at me.

503
00:33:22.319 --> 00:33:27.759
The huckleberry bushes are taller where it's at, and it

504
00:33:27.799 --> 00:33:31.079
comes up to about its hip. I can see it

505
00:33:31.079 --> 00:33:34.079
from the left side of its head all the way

506
00:33:34.079 --> 00:33:37.519
down to its arm, and I'm looking at it. I

507
00:33:37.559 --> 00:33:41.119
see the head. It's got an ear on the left side.

508
00:33:41.400 --> 00:33:46.519
It's got a protruding like lantern jaw, and it's got

509
00:33:46.519 --> 00:33:48.839
eyes that can shine. It's got no visible neck. I

510
00:33:49.119 --> 00:33:52.680
see the shoulder. I can see its chest move. It's breathing.

511
00:33:52.720 --> 00:33:55.480
I can see its arm and it's wrist and its

512
00:33:55.480 --> 00:33:58.799
hand is down on the bush. And I'm looking at this,

513
00:33:58.960 --> 00:34:02.160
and I'm going in my mind is a constant telling me,

514
00:34:02.200 --> 00:34:07.079
you've seen this before. And so I'm watching it and

515
00:34:07.119 --> 00:34:12.199
it's breathing, and I start looking down the body and

516
00:34:12.920 --> 00:34:17.519
I hope this is generated enough. I see nipples and

517
00:34:17.719 --> 00:34:21.880
breasts and a big, fat, round belly, and instantly I

518
00:34:21.920 --> 00:34:26.199
feel myself turned red and I look down. I break

519
00:34:26.360 --> 00:34:30.639
contact with it because here I am. I'm nineteen years old.

520
00:34:31.039 --> 00:34:34.519
So that was kind of an awkward, embarrassing moment. And

521
00:34:34.880 --> 00:34:37.320
finally I got enough courage to look up, and I

522
00:34:37.400 --> 00:34:41.400
look up at it and it's standing there, turned a

523
00:34:41.400 --> 00:34:45.480
little bit more towards me, and it's smiling, and it

524
00:34:45.559 --> 00:34:48.639
kind of has an expression on its face like a

525
00:34:49.000 --> 00:34:52.519
mom or a woman would get, you know, whether they

526
00:34:52.800 --> 00:34:55.079
a little child's body, and it got surprised or I'm

527
00:34:55.280 --> 00:34:59.599
embarrassed by the condition. I'm going, this is something different.

528
00:35:00.119 --> 00:35:05.519
This isn't you know, a person person? And so as

529
00:35:05.519 --> 00:35:09.960
I watch and I'm watching, and it's standing there watching me,

530
00:35:10.000 --> 00:35:17.440
and I'm and they're watching it. And I have the

531
00:35:17.599 --> 00:35:21.360
bowl of berries in my right hand. I have a

532
00:35:21.400 --> 00:35:24.679
shirt full of berries in my left, so I take

533
00:35:24.880 --> 00:35:28.360
the the sack is and I take that sack over

534
00:35:28.440 --> 00:35:31.480
the over the bowl and put the berries in it,

535
00:35:31.800 --> 00:35:35.239
holding the bottom of the bowl with my right hand,

536
00:35:35.280 --> 00:35:37.239
and I smooth it over with my left hand. I

537
00:35:37.280 --> 00:35:41.440
look over at it and it's smiling at me. It

538
00:35:41.480 --> 00:35:44.199
puts its hand on the bottom of its belly, it's

539
00:35:44.280 --> 00:35:48.280
right hand, and it takes its left hand and the

540
00:35:48.320 --> 00:35:49.840
same ocean I did it over the top of the bit.

541
00:35:49.920 --> 00:35:53.559
It rubs on its on its belly, and then it

542
00:35:54.239 --> 00:35:58.119
dawning on me this is some type of a pregnant

543
00:36:00.239 --> 00:36:03.320
something that looks like a person. And I just looking

544
00:36:03.400 --> 00:36:06.119
at it, and it just smiles at you, almost like

545
00:36:06.239 --> 00:36:10.360
you know, a beaming first time pregnant woman would do.

546
00:36:11.239 --> 00:36:15.599
And so I go, well, maybe I should leave, and

547
00:36:15.679 --> 00:36:17.719
I'm trying to figure out, well, what's it doing. A

548
00:36:17.719 --> 00:36:23.119
different thought didn't occur you that maybe because it was pregnant,

549
00:36:23.199 --> 00:36:24.920
it might have been hungry, and maybe it wanted to

550
00:36:25.000 --> 00:36:28.559
share some of the buckleberries with me, which I think

551
00:36:28.599 --> 00:36:32.760
I could have done. And so I start walking away

552
00:36:33.360 --> 00:36:35.320
on the edge of the road and it walks along

553
00:36:35.360 --> 00:36:39.800
and it's watching me, and I get to one spot

554
00:36:39.920 --> 00:36:41.960
and it looks at me and it turns to the

555
00:36:42.039 --> 00:36:46.679
right and goes down over the hill. And as I

556
00:36:47.000 --> 00:36:50.440
walked to the edge of the road, it pops into

557
00:36:50.440 --> 00:36:56.159
my head the BlackBerry patch when I was six years old,

558
00:36:56.880 --> 00:37:02.480
and I'm going, Okay, this is a different bigfoot and

559
00:37:02.519 --> 00:37:06.840
it's obviously it's a pregnant female bigfoot, and I was

560
00:37:06.920 --> 00:37:12.400
thinking what was going on? And then later through the

561
00:37:12.480 --> 00:37:16.400
years that I reminisceed on this, it became very simple,

562
00:37:16.960 --> 00:37:20.280
or maybe it was something that the Bigfoot was allowing

563
00:37:20.320 --> 00:37:24.320
me to finally put together. Really, what would a first

564
00:37:24.360 --> 00:37:32.199
time pregnant mom or bigfoot do? They would watch other children,

565
00:37:33.119 --> 00:37:37.360
and I believe because I was a child and she

566
00:37:37.480 --> 00:37:42.639
was an expected mom, that she was watching me. And

567
00:37:42.960 --> 00:37:45.280
so that's what it was for me on that day

568
00:37:46.840 --> 00:37:49.440
with that bigfoot that was a mount Like I said,

569
00:37:49.480 --> 00:37:50.599
at Mount Adams Killing.

570
00:37:50.400 --> 00:37:57.039
Creek, that's incredible. Do you remember anything about the details

571
00:37:57.119 --> 00:38:00.000
of the teeth when it smiled at you.

572
00:38:00.800 --> 00:38:08.079
Yes, their teeth are like ours, they are only bigger.

573
00:38:08.239 --> 00:38:13.960
They do not have canines like gorillas or chimpanzees are dude,

574
00:38:14.000 --> 00:38:23.880
they don't. Their teeth are like ours, only bigger. I

575
00:38:23.960 --> 00:38:26.639
learned in nineteen seventy two where I got to sit

576
00:38:26.719 --> 00:38:30.519
in the Huckleberry Pass with a family of bigfoot against

577
00:38:30.880 --> 00:38:33.039
next to a mom who was like eight feet away

578
00:38:33.039 --> 00:38:35.920
from me. She opened her mouth and yawned, and then

579
00:38:35.920 --> 00:38:39.079
I could counter teeth and see her teeth. They do

580
00:38:39.159 --> 00:38:43.760
not have canine teeth like we would perceive can nine teeth.

581
00:38:44.199 --> 00:38:47.679
For it teeth like gorillas and you know long fact, no,

582
00:38:47.840 --> 00:38:52.639
their teeth are like ours. They're just sticker and bigger. Wow.

583
00:38:53.960 --> 00:39:01.760
The Mitch Townsend in his book The Teeth of a

584
00:39:01.800 --> 00:39:06.199
Bigfoot from bite marks, and what he is describing in

585
00:39:06.320 --> 00:39:09.360
his book is exactly what I saw.

586
00:39:11.480 --> 00:39:14.320
That is very interesting. That's a name that comes up

587
00:39:14.360 --> 00:39:15.239
every once in a while.

588
00:39:16.320 --> 00:39:18.559
Yestch to take it to the bank when he puts

589
00:39:18.559 --> 00:39:23.239
in that book about their teeth structure. And like I said,

590
00:39:23.320 --> 00:39:26.679
I have seen their mouth up close and how he

591
00:39:26.760 --> 00:39:30.239
described them and from the bite marks of their teeth.

592
00:39:32.519 --> 00:39:36.360
My observations to what he wrote is a match.

593
00:39:38.719 --> 00:39:43.079
And seeing something at age six is definitely different than

594
00:39:43.199 --> 00:39:52.000
seeing something at age nineteen, sorry age nine. Did that

595
00:39:52.039 --> 00:39:56.599
sighting at a little older did that affect you in

596
00:39:56.639 --> 00:39:59.320
a different way than your initial sighting or did you

597
00:39:59.400 --> 00:40:01.519
kind of have this reaction after.

598
00:40:01.519 --> 00:40:07.920
I had, I felt a confirmation in myself that this

599
00:40:08.199 --> 00:40:11.400
was the same animal, only a female as to what

600
00:40:11.679 --> 00:40:16.320
I saw when I was younger, and I had always

601
00:40:16.440 --> 00:40:21.960
wanted to see them again because this, to me was

602
00:40:22.000 --> 00:40:25.480
a friend. Okay, I know that this wasn't the same one,

603
00:40:26.400 --> 00:40:32.119
but it was the same being creature animal really hammoned

604
00:40:32.400 --> 00:40:33.440
that i'd seen before.

605
00:40:34.559 --> 00:40:40.000
Gotcha, it's extremely interesting, it sounds like. So that was

606
00:40:40.079 --> 00:40:43.360
nineteen sixty nine, and just a few years after that

607
00:40:43.440 --> 00:40:48.679
than you had an even more.

608
00:40:48.159 --> 00:40:54.920
Yes, yeah, that was Let's see, that was okay. In

609
00:40:55.039 --> 00:40:59.519
sixty nine, the day that Armstrong landed on the Moon,

610
00:40:59.599 --> 00:41:04.000
that I was up at the same spot, only I

611
00:41:04.119 --> 00:41:07.480
was on the other side of the creek. It's killing creek,

612
00:41:07.519 --> 00:41:13.079
and I was fishing, and I'm fishing, you know, and

613
00:41:13.119 --> 00:41:14.880
there was birds and stuff, and all of a sudden

614
00:41:15.480 --> 00:41:21.360
it went quiet, and I hear that whistle again. But

615
00:41:21.440 --> 00:41:24.800
I'm kind of facing the creek. Off to my right,

616
00:41:24.880 --> 00:41:28.920
about thirty feet is this big dead first snag about

617
00:41:29.000 --> 00:41:32.719
four foot across, and I never thought to look in

618
00:41:32.760 --> 00:41:39.639
that direction. And I look around and I don't see anything.

619
00:41:40.119 --> 00:41:41.920
So I go back to fishing. I catch a fish,

620
00:41:41.960 --> 00:41:44.559
I throat on the bank, and back to fishing, and

621
00:41:44.639 --> 00:41:50.559
I hear like a rock on wood back and I

622
00:41:50.639 --> 00:41:52.719
turn and I look in the I don't see anything.

623
00:41:52.800 --> 00:41:57.320
And again I don't pay attention to the snag, and

624
00:41:57.360 --> 00:41:58.840
I look and I look and I look, and I

625
00:41:58.880 --> 00:42:02.679
don't see see anything. So I go back to fishing,

626
00:42:02.719 --> 00:42:07.800
and all of a sudden dirt, pine clones and rock

627
00:42:09.280 --> 00:42:12.360
go across the ground in front of me and next

628
00:42:12.400 --> 00:42:16.400
to my foot. So I go, okay, who's throwing stuff

629
00:42:16.440 --> 00:42:17.679
at me? And I turned a little bit to the

630
00:42:17.760 --> 00:42:20.599
right and I look, and I look at the dump

631
00:42:20.920 --> 00:42:24.400
that snag around it. I don't see nothing, and I go,

632
00:42:24.920 --> 00:42:29.480
this is, you know, back to fishing. And I'm back

633
00:42:29.519 --> 00:42:33.760
to fishing, and I get pelted again with pebbles, rocks

634
00:42:33.840 --> 00:42:38.199
and dirt. At this time it goes across my foot,

635
00:42:39.559 --> 00:42:42.239
and I know somebody's playing with me or trying to

636
00:42:42.239 --> 00:42:45.360
get my attention, so I turn even more to the right.

637
00:42:45.480 --> 00:42:49.000
So the creek is on my left side, killing creek.

638
00:42:51.400 --> 00:42:55.000
I'm fishing right as a clear cut areas puckleberries, and

639
00:42:55.039 --> 00:42:58.480
there's that big stump again on my right and I

640
00:42:58.559 --> 00:43:01.960
look and I don't see nothing. So I go back

641
00:43:02.000 --> 00:43:05.639
to fishing, and about this time, out of my right side,

642
00:43:05.760 --> 00:43:08.079
I seet motion and I look up and here's this

643
00:43:08.639 --> 00:43:13.239
socker size rock flying through the air and it hits

644
00:43:13.280 --> 00:43:16.400
in the water in front of me, and I go

645
00:43:19.360 --> 00:43:21.760
something they threw something at me or something through something.

646
00:43:21.800 --> 00:43:25.960
So I turned to the right, and for some reason,

647
00:43:26.039 --> 00:43:32.559
my attention focused on the big snag, and I see

648
00:43:32.679 --> 00:43:38.039
the left arm come back, and I uh ah. So

649
00:43:38.119 --> 00:43:44.880
I turn and look facing directly at the snag, and

650
00:43:44.960 --> 00:43:50.320
I see this head and body lean out from the

651
00:43:50.440 --> 00:43:54.760
left side, its left side, from towards me on this

652
00:43:54.840 --> 00:43:58.840
big dead snag. And I'm looking at that, and I go,

653
00:44:00.360 --> 00:44:05.199
that's big. And it puts hicks a side step, and

654
00:44:05.239 --> 00:44:11.880
it puts both its hands up on this snag and

655
00:44:11.920 --> 00:44:14.320
it kind of like a bear would sidewalk or on

656
00:44:14.440 --> 00:44:16.360
the stag. And I'm looking at this and I go,

657
00:44:17.000 --> 00:44:21.639
you don't fool me. You're not a bear. There's no snout,

658
00:44:22.119 --> 00:44:25.679
there's no ears on top of the head. Now, if

659
00:44:25.719 --> 00:44:29.480
you remember the old time wrestler Haystack Calhoun, he was

660
00:44:29.559 --> 00:44:34.079
six four and six hundred and fifty pounds. This critter

661
00:44:35.239 --> 00:44:39.519
is three foot bigger AND's got him by three hundred pounds.

662
00:44:39.960 --> 00:44:42.519
So this is big. And being a at that time

663
00:44:43.719 --> 00:44:46.800
a little older, I turn and look at it, and

664
00:44:46.920 --> 00:44:50.079
the first thought that comes to my mind is who

665
00:44:50.159 --> 00:44:53.079
is this throwing rocks at me? And then it dawns

666
00:44:53.119 --> 00:44:59.880
on me. That's not clothes, that's hair. It's brown, it's black.

667
00:45:01.000 --> 00:45:05.880
It's got some lighter streakings on the torso it's a male.

668
00:45:06.039 --> 00:45:10.639
I can see that it's not closed. And this thing,

669
00:45:11.239 --> 00:45:14.320
like I said, is about nine foot tall, a good

670
00:45:14.480 --> 00:45:18.039
nine nine hundred pounds, and he's just standing there looking

671
00:45:18.079 --> 00:45:20.400
at me, and I'm standing looking at it, and it

672
00:45:21.000 --> 00:45:24.519
sways a little bit and it goes. Now I go

673
00:45:26.239 --> 00:45:29.000
back at it, and I stand up and look at it,

674
00:45:29.719 --> 00:45:36.039
and it has its right hand up on the dead

675
00:45:36.079 --> 00:45:39.199
snag in it brings its left arm over and crosses

676
00:45:39.199 --> 00:45:41.599
over in front and puts it on its left arm,

677
00:45:41.679 --> 00:45:46.400
and it's standing there looking at me, and I'm watching it,

678
00:45:48.239 --> 00:45:53.559
and I got a pretty good idea of what it is.

679
00:45:53.679 --> 00:45:56.840
It's a male bigfoot, and like, what's he doing there?

680
00:45:56.880 --> 00:45:58.840
And I can see the path. The only thing I

681
00:45:58.840 --> 00:46:00.719
can figure is it was coming down on that path

682
00:46:00.800 --> 00:46:02.760
to get maybe get a drink of water. And I

683
00:46:02.800 --> 00:46:05.199
was sitting there in front of it. But it was

684
00:46:05.280 --> 00:46:07.440
curious as to what I was and what I was doing.

685
00:46:08.440 --> 00:46:13.639
I was fishing. So I watch it and eventually it

686
00:46:13.800 --> 00:46:17.000
kind of rocks a little bit. Then from the waist

687
00:46:17.199 --> 00:46:21.400
it turns to its left and then the body turns

688
00:46:21.400 --> 00:46:25.639
around and it starts walking away from me. So I go,

689
00:46:26.079 --> 00:46:29.400
I'm going to see this I start walking behind it.

690
00:46:29.480 --> 00:46:32.280
I'm not afraid of I got an idea, and I'm

691
00:46:32.320 --> 00:46:34.840
pretty sure what it is. I just walk behind it.

692
00:46:35.360 --> 00:46:37.920
And as I walk behind it, I get to the

693
00:46:38.440 --> 00:46:42.840
snag and it stops. It turns and looks to its

694
00:46:42.880 --> 00:46:45.079
left and looks back. I stopped the standing side still.

695
00:46:46.039 --> 00:46:50.360
I don't tell me, don't follow it. I'm watching it

696
00:46:50.400 --> 00:46:54.280
as it walks away. I can see the muscles in

697
00:46:54.320 --> 00:46:57.199
his back move. I can see the muscles and his

698
00:46:57.400 --> 00:47:01.559
legs move. I can see the bar of its foot

699
00:47:01.880 --> 00:47:03.920
and it comes up, it comes down on the ground,

700
00:47:04.199 --> 00:47:07.440
how the weight transfers. I'm not close to it. I'm

701
00:47:07.440 --> 00:47:10.719
maybe thirty five feet behin it, walking a little bit

702
00:47:10.800 --> 00:47:13.920
behind it. And I get to where the stump this

703
00:47:14.039 --> 00:47:15.880
dag is and I look down and I can see

704
00:47:15.920 --> 00:47:18.679
on the ground where it pulled the big rock out

705
00:47:18.719 --> 00:47:22.320
of the ground and threw it at me into the creek.

706
00:47:22.760 --> 00:47:26.239
And there on the ground in the path is about

707
00:47:26.239 --> 00:47:30.639
an eighteen to nineteen inch track. About six feet in

708
00:47:30.679 --> 00:47:34.920
front of it is another going straight to that creature.

709
00:47:35.039 --> 00:47:37.920
So I do this was a male bigfoot, and that

710
00:47:38.159 --> 00:47:41.880
was on the same day that Neil Armstrong landed on

711
00:47:41.920 --> 00:47:45.920
the Moon. I saw mister Bigfoot up close and personal,

712
00:47:46.480 --> 00:47:51.840
and again I believe I saw it not by so

713
00:47:51.920 --> 00:47:55.239
much by coincident, but because I had seen and interacted

714
00:47:55.280 --> 00:47:58.920
with them before. It could have been a coincidence or

715
00:47:59.079 --> 00:48:01.320
we just happened to be the same place at the

716
00:48:01.320 --> 00:48:05.159
same time. But I never felt threatened. I felt that

717
00:48:05.280 --> 00:48:07.960
the whistle and the rock clock, and even the throwing

718
00:48:08.400 --> 00:48:10.760
the stuff at my foot and the big rock in

719
00:48:10.800 --> 00:48:12.960
the creek, it was trying to get my attention. It

720
00:48:13.000 --> 00:48:16.320
was trying to get me to look at it. I

721
00:48:16.320 --> 00:48:19.239
don't think it was trying to scare me away. It

722
00:48:19.360 --> 00:48:25.079
made no aggressive most it was more curious, like I'm here,

723
00:48:25.599 --> 00:48:29.800
do you see me? But then it turning walked away.

724
00:48:29.840 --> 00:48:33.360
I guess I had occupied its time, spend enough.

725
00:48:34.440 --> 00:48:41.639
And that was July twenty first, sixty nine. Yeah, okay, yeah,

726
00:48:41.679 --> 00:48:44.840
why do you think you returned the same noise it

727
00:48:44.880 --> 00:48:45.559
made to you.

728
00:48:49.159 --> 00:48:53.480
Through the years that I've been around them, I've learned

729
00:48:53.480 --> 00:48:58.360
to Bigfoot make certain vocalizations, right. They also make certain

730
00:48:58.880 --> 00:49:03.960
noises with rock and sticks. Most people that are around

731
00:49:04.039 --> 00:49:08.199
Bigfoot don't put two and two together, or haven't heard

732
00:49:08.239 --> 00:49:13.440
him make rock clacks, you know, wooden knocks or vocalizations

733
00:49:13.480 --> 00:49:17.280
whistles say they don't know what it is. I've heard

734
00:49:17.280 --> 00:49:20.039
it before, I've seen him do it, so I know

735
00:49:20.199 --> 00:49:22.559
in my mind it's like guys, I can recognize it.

736
00:49:23.159 --> 00:49:28.760
This is what that is. And over the years I've

737
00:49:28.840 --> 00:49:34.360
learned to look and listen for that. I've had them

738
00:49:34.599 --> 00:49:39.679
walk along side of me through the woods, juveniles and adults,

739
00:49:40.440 --> 00:49:43.840
And when I'm aware that there's ones there, it's like

740
00:49:44.000 --> 00:49:47.000
I can feel them there there. I hear them there

741
00:49:47.159 --> 00:49:49.159
by the sounds that they make, by the sounds that

742
00:49:49.159 --> 00:49:53.760
their foot makes when they're walking. People that say you

743
00:49:53.840 --> 00:49:57.320
can't tell the difference between the deer walking and the bigfoot,

744
00:49:57.559 --> 00:50:01.519
that's other nonsense. You sure can. A hard cloven hoof

745
00:50:01.800 --> 00:50:05.360
makes a different sound hits the ground as compared to

746
00:50:05.559 --> 00:50:09.760
that big, flat, flappy foot of a big foot. And

747
00:50:09.840 --> 00:50:13.360
people say, well, we don't see the tracks. You've got

748
00:50:13.440 --> 00:50:20.800
to understand the area of that foot can display seven

749
00:50:20.880 --> 00:50:25.880
hundred and fifty pounds of weight per square inch, So

750
00:50:25.920 --> 00:50:30.239
you got a fifteen inch track, which is basically a

751
00:50:30.760 --> 00:50:33.519
eight foot tall bigfoot that six hundred and fifty pounds.

752
00:50:34.159 --> 00:50:39.039
Unless there's snow or soft ground, you're not gonna see

753
00:50:39.480 --> 00:50:44.960
complete tracks because that foot can displace that weight on

754
00:50:45.000 --> 00:50:49.159
the ground. It's the makeup of the soil that they're

755
00:50:49.199 --> 00:50:54.559
walking on. I've found tracks that were quite clear. I

756
00:50:54.599 --> 00:50:59.639
have found tracks on hard baked clay that you might

757
00:50:59.719 --> 00:51:02.679
find a toll print, but if you look in the

758
00:51:02.760 --> 00:51:06.159
general direction, you'll pick up scuff marks. And it's because

759
00:51:06.159 --> 00:51:09.800
of that big foot that you don't see a lot

760
00:51:09.840 --> 00:51:14.800
of tracks, because they can displace that body weight. You

761
00:51:14.880 --> 00:51:18.159
see that there's that progression right still as a young

762
00:51:18.760 --> 00:51:23.159
and I still believe it's because of meeting that one

763
00:51:23.199 --> 00:51:28.159
when I was six, that they were there and maybe

764
00:51:28.199 --> 00:51:30.760
this bigfoot was checking up on me like I was

765
00:51:30.800 --> 00:51:35.360
a friend. I believe the family, the family's the bigfoot.

766
00:51:35.719 --> 00:51:39.639
If they see one person, it appears that they all

767
00:51:39.800 --> 00:51:45.800
seem to recognize that person, they choose that person to befriend,

768
00:51:46.880 --> 00:51:49.719
and through research and reading a lot of reports and

769
00:51:49.840 --> 00:51:55.519
other people's observations, I believe that is true, that they'll

770
00:51:55.599 --> 00:51:58.840
check up on a friend, see how you're growing, what

771
00:51:59.039 --> 00:52:01.679
you're doing. That's my belief.

772
00:52:03.639 --> 00:52:07.880
That's really interesting was then the next interaction you had

773
00:52:07.920 --> 00:52:09.280
with the family.

774
00:52:09.679 --> 00:52:13.639
This was in nineteen seventy two. This one was verified

775
00:52:13.800 --> 00:52:19.360
by the BFRO because another people that were there at

776
00:52:19.360 --> 00:52:22.760
that day saw two of the four that I saw.

777
00:52:24.280 --> 00:52:26.280
We had went up to Lake Cushman, and again this

778
00:52:26.360 --> 00:52:31.119
was in July, the beginning of huckleberry season, and there

779
00:52:31.119 --> 00:52:34.760
were four of us and we got to camp late

780
00:52:34.800 --> 00:52:37.599
in the afternoon and made camp and fire and it

781
00:52:37.719 --> 00:52:41.159
was getting on towards dark, and people were coming in

782
00:52:41.159 --> 00:52:45.840
and out of the camps and we were listening and

783
00:52:45.880 --> 00:52:50.960
it was dark, and we heard this high pitched, like

784
00:52:51.159 --> 00:52:57.239
hysterical scream, like a woman screaming in hysteria. Like everybody

785
00:52:57.320 --> 00:53:00.159
just kind of freezes and looks up the hill. What

786
00:53:00.320 --> 00:53:03.199
on earth is this? And it's followed by a more

787
00:53:03.239 --> 00:53:08.159
like baritone scream wah, and then like a child screaming.

788
00:53:08.199 --> 00:53:12.239
And this is going on back and forth, and we're

789
00:53:12.239 --> 00:53:14.360
talking there. In other cameras, they go and they thought

790
00:53:14.400 --> 00:53:17.840
it was kyots, and I go, no, that's that's too loud,

791
00:53:18.679 --> 00:53:21.079
and it doesn't have that yap yap that kyotes do

792
00:53:21.159 --> 00:53:29.719
when they're when they're howling. And there's other prison well,

793
00:53:29.719 --> 00:53:33.119
maybe it's a cougar screaming. I go, no, that's not

794
00:53:33.159 --> 00:53:39.079
a cougar screaming. It didn't have that waw a cat

795
00:53:39.280 --> 00:53:41.960
in it when the cougar screams. And I've been out

796
00:53:41.960 --> 00:53:44.840
in the woods a lot. My dad had hunting dogs

797
00:53:45.199 --> 00:53:48.960
and they'd hunt bear and cougar and with the dogs

798
00:53:49.000 --> 00:53:52.559
and out deer hunting. And I have heard bear noises,

799
00:53:52.760 --> 00:53:56.840
I've heard cougar noises, deer noises, elk noises. Just about

800
00:53:57.199 --> 00:53:59.880
anything that's out there that makes a noise, I've heard it.

801
00:54:01.239 --> 00:54:04.880
So this is going on, and people start adding a

802
00:54:04.880 --> 00:54:08.519
little extra woodard fire, and about this time, this woman

803
00:54:08.679 --> 00:54:11.639
comes in and she says she was walking up and

804
00:54:11.760 --> 00:54:15.199
she heard the screams, and she says, I thought I

805
00:54:15.280 --> 00:54:19.760
saw a mountain gorilla across the road. And I look

806
00:54:19.800 --> 00:54:23.800
at the people, look at myself. There's no mountain gorillas

807
00:54:23.840 --> 00:54:28.599
in Washington State around Lake Cushman. And she's seeing something.

808
00:54:28.800 --> 00:54:31.639
Maybe she saw a bear or something. And so we're

809
00:54:31.679 --> 00:54:34.320
all talking, and I told my friends and said, I'm

810
00:54:34.360 --> 00:54:36.760
pretty good at hunting tracking. I'm going to get up

811
00:54:36.760 --> 00:54:39.039
at the morning in the morning and I'm going to

812
00:54:39.800 --> 00:54:43.039
walk up the old road up towards where I heard

813
00:54:43.039 --> 00:54:47.559
that sound coming from. So it got first light and

814
00:54:47.599 --> 00:54:52.519
I got dressed and I was wearing khaki pants and

815
00:54:52.880 --> 00:55:00.639
brown sweatshirt and had a hat on and had long hair,

816
00:55:02.039 --> 00:55:05.440
and so I start walking up. I cross this wooden

817
00:55:05.480 --> 00:55:09.519
bridge and this is a major Kent site on Lake Cushman,

818
00:55:10.360 --> 00:55:12.719
and there's a little bridge with a rusty gate, and

819
00:55:12.760 --> 00:55:14.599
I go across the bridge to the main road and

820
00:55:14.599 --> 00:55:21.039
I start walking up the road and I'm gone fifty

821
00:55:21.119 --> 00:55:23.880
seventy five yards and down in the gulch, which is

822
00:55:23.920 --> 00:55:30.599
stick with ferns and trees and huckleberries, I hear branches breaking.

823
00:55:30.880 --> 00:55:35.519
Something's moving below me, and I hear it sounds like

824
00:55:36.360 --> 00:55:41.920
squirrel chatter, and I just stop because I'd never heard

825
00:55:41.960 --> 00:55:45.360
that before. What is that? And I got I'm on

826
00:55:45.440 --> 00:55:48.920
the high ground above it, and I don't They had

827
00:55:48.960 --> 00:55:52.679
no idea I was above them, And so I listen

828
00:55:53.800 --> 00:55:55.840
and I hear it move, and I move with it,

829
00:55:56.039 --> 00:55:59.119
going up the road, and I keep hearing the chatter,

830
00:55:59.760 --> 00:56:03.079
brandes breaking and stuff like that. And I'm looking at

831
00:56:03.119 --> 00:56:07.239
my watch. It's maybe five thirty in the morning. It's light,

832
00:56:08.519 --> 00:56:11.800
but I don't see anybody. And I keep walking and

833
00:56:11.840 --> 00:56:15.400
it stops. It would break a branch, it would stop,

834
00:56:16.039 --> 00:56:18.679
and I'd walk when it moved. I moved. When it's

835
00:56:19.440 --> 00:56:21.920
stopped I stop, and I keep looking down, trying to

836
00:56:21.920 --> 00:56:25.320
look down through the trees and the brush, the ferns,

837
00:56:25.400 --> 00:56:29.679
the huckleberrys, to see what's blown me. And as I'm

838
00:56:29.679 --> 00:56:33.920
come it up, I come to a tree and I stop,

839
00:56:34.000 --> 00:56:38.079
and I look down, and I see two figures turn

840
00:56:38.119 --> 00:56:41.000
around and go down over the hill, and I'm looking

841
00:56:41.000 --> 00:56:45.280
at it. It's a blonde color phase. It's like a

842
00:56:45.320 --> 00:56:49.719
boufont hairstyle from the back, and the other one short

843
00:56:49.719 --> 00:56:53.079
comes up to about its waist and it goes back

844
00:56:53.119 --> 00:56:56.199
done in the gulch, and I go, wait a minute.

845
00:56:56.719 --> 00:56:58.639
I know I was the first one out of camp

846
00:56:58.679 --> 00:57:01.920
that morning, and you know by the harrison, I says,

847
00:57:02.159 --> 00:57:04.559
what would a girl be doing out here? A mom

848
00:57:04.599 --> 00:57:07.360
and her daughter bushwhacken at this time of the morning.

849
00:57:07.960 --> 00:57:12.000
It disappears, and pretty soon I hear the chatter again,

850
00:57:12.360 --> 00:57:15.760
and I hear the bench branches breaking, so I parallel

851
00:57:15.800 --> 00:57:17.800
them again. I got the high ground. I'm going to

852
00:57:17.840 --> 00:57:20.880
keep the high ground on them. And as they're coming

853
00:57:21.000 --> 00:57:24.000
up almost to the crest of the of the road,

854
00:57:24.920 --> 00:57:27.960
I'm standing there by this tree and I'm looking about

855
00:57:28.519 --> 00:57:30.360
seventy to fifty seventy five yards in front of me.

856
00:57:30.840 --> 00:57:33.000
And the shadow moves and I just stand still and

857
00:57:33.039 --> 00:57:36.920
hug that tree. And it steps up to the edge

858
00:57:36.920 --> 00:57:39.480
of the road. And this thing is nine foot tall.

859
00:57:39.840 --> 00:57:45.400
It's black, it is huge, and my mind goes, I

860
00:57:45.480 --> 00:57:48.920
know what that is, no doubt about it. That's a bigfoot.

861
00:57:49.440 --> 00:57:51.920
It turns from the waist, it looks up the right

862
00:57:51.960 --> 00:57:54.119
towards me, up the road. It turns to the left,

863
00:57:54.159 --> 00:57:56.960
looks down the road. It goes across that road in

864
00:57:57.000 --> 00:58:01.000
two steps, ten percent grade thick, and he goes up

865
00:58:01.079 --> 00:58:05.079
that like he's walking on flat ground. And I go, naha,

866
00:58:06.079 --> 00:58:08.159
I know what that is. I've seen that before. That's

867
00:58:08.199 --> 00:58:13.159
a bigfoot. But then I don't know what's on the

868
00:58:13.239 --> 00:58:16.119
left side of me. So I walk a little bit

869
00:58:16.119 --> 00:58:20.960
further and I hear it again, and I go, where's

870
00:58:21.000 --> 00:58:24.480
going to find out? If a human steps on a

871
00:58:24.559 --> 00:58:27.280
branch or breaks a branch, don't take that next step.

872
00:58:28.239 --> 00:58:30.800
So I reach up and grab this dead branch and

873
00:58:30.840 --> 00:58:37.800
I go snap, and I stand still. Everything blow me stops,

874
00:58:37.840 --> 00:58:39.519
and I go, Okay, if it's a person, they're gonna

875
00:58:39.519 --> 00:58:44.639
take that next step nothing. I go, okay, this is

876
00:58:44.719 --> 00:58:50.320
not personal. A little while later, I hear it moving again,

877
00:58:50.480 --> 00:58:56.119
so I move and I'm at this a clearing. It's

878
00:58:56.159 --> 00:58:59.960
got stumps and huckleberries in it. It's got old girls huckleberries.

879
00:59:00.760 --> 00:59:03.760
And I step off the road and I sit down

880
00:59:03.800 --> 00:59:07.519
in a stump behind like three little huckleberry bushes, and

881
00:59:07.519 --> 00:59:10.199
there's a little four inch stump next to my left foot,

882
00:59:10.199 --> 00:59:17.039
and I just sit down and I'm eating huckleberry, just

883
00:59:17.079 --> 00:59:23.159
picking him. It's quiet, and to my left, about eight

884
00:59:23.239 --> 00:59:28.719
ten feet away, this blond brown arm comes out, grabs

885
00:59:28.719 --> 00:59:32.280
a hold of the huckleberries and pulls it back. And

886
00:59:32.320 --> 00:59:35.239
I saw that arm. That arm was four and a

887
00:59:35.280 --> 00:59:41.920
half five foot long, big long hand, blonde brown hair.

888
00:59:42.000 --> 00:59:46.400
Coloring on the hair looked almost like the bleach color

889
00:59:47.400 --> 00:59:49.480
of an Alaskan grizzly, but there's no grizzly in this

890
00:59:49.559 --> 00:59:52.679
bar of the country. And I'm watching it and it

891
00:59:52.760 --> 00:59:56.760
pulls back and I can see a form just inside

892
00:59:57.320 --> 00:59:59.760
the edge of the brush line. And I look and

893
00:59:59.800 --> 01:00:05.360
I see like a tan hourglass looking in my direction.

894
01:00:05.559 --> 01:00:10.119
I just sit stead still and watch. I don't know

895
01:00:10.280 --> 01:00:13.360
anything but my eyes, and I'm watching it, and pretty

896
01:00:13.400 --> 01:00:18.480
soon I pick up another like an hourglass on its

897
01:00:18.480 --> 01:00:23.960
side mask wa tan colored, and I pick up the eyes.

898
01:00:24.800 --> 01:00:27.360
They're in front of whatever that face is. And I'm

899
01:00:27.400 --> 01:00:32.599
looking and I can make an outline of two figures

900
01:00:32.800 --> 01:00:37.119
east inside the brush. So I just sit still, and

901
01:00:37.320 --> 01:00:40.119
pretty soon the one that's a little further away, it

902
01:00:40.360 --> 01:00:43.360
turns to its left and it's on off and it

903
01:00:43.440 --> 01:00:45.960
kind of goes over the crest of a hill and

904
01:00:46.039 --> 01:00:50.079
I pick up the back of the head. It's blonde colored,

905
01:00:50.719 --> 01:00:53.800
there's no neck. I can see ears on the side,

906
01:00:53.800 --> 01:00:58.599
covered in fine air, and it disappears over the over

907
01:00:58.679 --> 01:01:03.079
into the brush, and I go, what was that about?

908
01:01:03.079 --> 01:01:07.360
This time? On the left, about eight feet away from me,

909
01:01:08.280 --> 01:01:13.239
this big animal comes out on all fours and sits

910
01:01:13.400 --> 01:01:17.280
down eight ten feet in front of me. I am

911
01:01:17.400 --> 01:01:20.960
sitting just behind its right shoulder, like I said, eight

912
01:01:21.039 --> 01:01:23.960
to ten feet away, and my head comes up to

913
01:01:24.000 --> 01:01:28.119
the bottom of its armpit. And I'm five nine and

914
01:01:28.159 --> 01:01:33.280
this thing is sitting down, So it's I figure sitting

915
01:01:33.320 --> 01:01:35.719
down on the ground. This thing has to be seven

916
01:01:36.199 --> 01:01:40.039
seven and a half foot tall, and it's got that

917
01:01:40.119 --> 01:01:44.360
buffont hairstyle. There's no visible neck. Its head is about

918
01:01:44.360 --> 01:01:48.079
twenty inches wide twenty two inches high. It's wider in

919
01:01:48.119 --> 01:01:51.960
the back than the front, and I can see its back,

920
01:01:52.039 --> 01:01:56.199
its shoulder blades, it's side cheeks, sitting with its feet

921
01:01:56.360 --> 01:01:59.559
and legs kind of pulled up to the right side.

922
01:01:59.559 --> 01:02:01.800
It sitting on his left cheek, and I can see

923
01:02:01.840 --> 01:02:04.960
the feet in the legs, and I go, I'm going

924
01:02:05.000 --> 01:02:07.599
to just sit still and watch to see what this is.

925
01:02:09.000 --> 01:02:15.119
So I just sit there and I'm watching, and I said,

926
01:02:15.559 --> 01:02:18.119
I'm wondering if this is the two animals that I

927
01:02:18.199 --> 01:02:21.679
saw come up the road that was done in the

928
01:02:21.679 --> 01:02:24.639
bust that tear and went back down. So as I'm watching,

929
01:02:25.320 --> 01:02:27.519
it straightens out and turns a little bit more to

930
01:02:27.559 --> 01:02:30.239
the right, looks in my direction, and I don't move

931
01:02:30.239 --> 01:02:33.800
it all. I just sit still. I think, well, it

932
01:02:33.840 --> 01:02:38.079
doesn't know i'm there. And again I'm behind its right shoulder,

933
01:02:39.320 --> 01:02:41.079
and it turns a little bit more to the right

934
01:02:41.119 --> 01:02:46.280
and it starts picking the huckleberry snap off the trigs,

935
01:02:46.719 --> 01:02:51.679
suck them off off the twig, the berries and the leaves,

936
01:02:52.119 --> 01:02:54.880
and there's that same sucking sounds i'd heard before, and

937
01:02:54.920 --> 01:02:58.760
it drops those twigs right straight down. So I go, okay,

938
01:02:58.800 --> 01:03:03.320
this is eating. And as I'm watching it, it turns

939
01:03:03.320 --> 01:03:06.400
a little bit more to the right and it flips

940
01:03:06.440 --> 01:03:08.519
its eyes towards me, but a little bobby and I

941
01:03:08.559 --> 01:03:11.480
just looked out. I go, is it looking at me?

942
01:03:11.840 --> 01:03:14.360
And it looks away and I look at it and

943
01:03:14.400 --> 01:03:16.519
it looks back and I look down. And we do

944
01:03:16.599 --> 01:03:19.400
this about five or six times that I figured does

945
01:03:19.440 --> 01:03:23.400
it see me? If I'd looked just past it, I'd

946
01:03:23.440 --> 01:03:26.400
have found the answer to that question. So it turns

947
01:03:26.400 --> 01:03:30.199
a little bit more and it's feeding, and then it

948
01:03:30.239 --> 01:03:32.440
turns and looks in my direction. Again. I don't look

949
01:03:32.440 --> 01:03:35.920
at it. I just sit still, and then I go,

950
01:03:38.480 --> 01:03:41.519
I think it knows I'm here. And I remember what

951
01:03:41.880 --> 01:03:45.519
Jane Goodall in her studies with chimp said, act like

952
01:03:45.559 --> 01:03:48.400
your part of what's going on. So I start picking

953
01:03:51.119 --> 01:03:53.880
buckleberries and eating them, and I look over and there's

954
01:03:53.920 --> 01:03:56.559
the eyeballs looking right at me, and it kind of

955
01:03:56.559 --> 01:03:58.760
looks at me, and it reaches over and it picks up,

956
01:04:00.920 --> 01:04:04.199
picks a trig of lockberries and does the suck them

957
01:04:04.199 --> 01:04:07.039
off bit and drops it. And I kind of look

958
01:04:07.079 --> 01:04:11.679
at it and smile and I'm tired, and it stretches

959
01:04:12.000 --> 01:04:15.199
and yawns. And when it yawns, like I said, I'm

960
01:04:15.239 --> 01:04:18.960
eight to ten feet off to its side. It opens

961
01:04:19.000 --> 01:04:23.119
its mouth, and I'm looking full into its mouth. I

962
01:04:23.119 --> 01:04:25.480
can see its teeth. It has a tongue like ours.

963
01:04:25.840 --> 01:04:30.360
It's teeth are like ours. They're bigger, no big long cane. Iides,

964
01:04:30.719 --> 01:04:34.599
and it's yawns, and I try to cover my face

965
01:04:34.679 --> 01:04:37.280
and not yawn, and I yawn at it and I go,

966
01:04:37.400 --> 01:04:42.280
oh no, Diane Feinstein says in her studies of mountain gorillas,

967
01:04:42.800 --> 01:04:47.119
showing your teeth as a sign of aggression. I go oop,

968
01:04:47.239 --> 01:04:49.320
I don't want to do that. I look down. I

969
01:04:49.400 --> 01:04:54.480
cover my face and I yawn again, and I well

970
01:04:54.599 --> 01:04:58.039
slip my eyes to the left, and there she is.

971
01:04:59.000 --> 01:05:03.719
She's yawning, covering her mouth, looking at me, and I go, oh,

972
01:05:03.800 --> 01:05:07.159
my gosh. She knows I'm there, and she's looking at me,

973
01:05:07.199 --> 01:05:10.199
and she's mimicking what I'm doing. And she sits up

974
01:05:10.239 --> 01:05:16.079
and I sit up and I can see it's a female.

975
01:05:16.760 --> 01:05:21.119
It's got breast blonde brown colorformation. And she turned a

976
01:05:21.159 --> 01:05:21.960
little bit more, and.

977
01:05:21.920 --> 01:05:25.480
She's sitting kind of on the side, and she's eating,

978
01:05:25.519 --> 01:05:27.280
and so I'm eating and she'd look at me, and

979
01:05:27.280 --> 01:05:29.920
I'd look at her, and all of a sudden, she

980
01:05:30.280 --> 01:05:32.239
kind of straightens up and she rolls her eyes up

981
01:05:32.280 --> 01:05:33.239
and she looks.

982
01:05:35.079 --> 01:05:39.400
Behind me and she buries her teeth and like a grimace,

983
01:05:39.400 --> 01:05:42.239
and I go, oh, is she telling me I'm too

984
01:05:42.239 --> 01:05:45.400
close or something? I just look down and I turn

985
01:05:45.519 --> 01:05:48.960
and I looked to the right behind me, and across

986
01:05:49.000 --> 01:05:52.239
the road, on the edge of the brush there's this

987
01:05:52.360 --> 01:05:58.480
big black form like it's sitting there like a stomper,

988
01:05:59.159 --> 01:06:03.360
and I attention to it. The male had walked up

989
01:06:03.400 --> 01:06:06.480
the hill, turned around and come back down and sat

990
01:06:06.559 --> 01:06:10.320
down behind me. And he was there all the time watching,

991
01:06:10.519 --> 01:06:13.360
I found out when I did some tracking later. So

992
01:06:13.480 --> 01:06:20.679
I'm watching her and she goes back to feeding, and

993
01:06:20.719 --> 01:06:22.320
she comes up to the left hand to her mouth,

994
01:06:22.360 --> 01:06:26.440
and she puts a bunch of chewed berries and leaves

995
01:06:26.559 --> 01:06:29.880
in her left home and she reaches out towards these

996
01:06:30.400 --> 01:06:34.880
three clumps of that has like a little stump in it,

997
01:06:35.199 --> 01:06:37.280
off to her left. My eyes are right on that hand.

998
01:06:37.920 --> 01:06:41.440
I'm watch in that hand, And as it gets towards

999
01:06:41.800 --> 01:06:45.599
the clump, that little stump goes over into all four

1000
01:06:46.159 --> 01:06:49.880
and the hand comes out and it takes the berries

1001
01:06:50.960 --> 01:06:53.440
and the two leaves from the mom's hand and pops

1002
01:06:53.480 --> 01:06:56.639
it in his mouth, and I go, ah, that's a toddler,

1003
01:06:56.639 --> 01:07:00.519
but it's not the same one that I saw, and

1004
01:07:00.559 --> 01:07:02.679
so I'm watching it. She does this a couple of times,

1005
01:07:03.119 --> 01:07:05.159
and I'm just sitting there, and I decide I'm gonna

1006
01:07:05.159 --> 01:07:08.679
sit still and watch or did the other one go?

1007
01:07:08.719 --> 01:07:10.559
Because this little one is not the same one that

1008
01:07:10.639 --> 01:07:14.400
I saw. It was just a little further over. And

1009
01:07:14.440 --> 01:07:19.400
so I'm watching it, and I've sit there and I

1010
01:07:19.480 --> 01:07:22.280
take my left hand and I put it down on

1011
01:07:22.360 --> 01:07:25.840
my left knee next to the bush, and all of

1012
01:07:25.840 --> 01:07:29.199
a sudden, this little doll like face with golf ball

1013
01:07:29.239 --> 01:07:32.800
sized eyes, a little bit of hair on its face,

1014
01:07:33.239 --> 01:07:36.679
like a crew cut black. You could see the skin

1015
01:07:36.920 --> 01:07:39.960
color of his belly, and it's under its arm kind

1016
01:07:39.960 --> 01:07:42.960
of like a natural tan deer and a pasty white.

1017
01:07:43.519 --> 01:07:45.679
It's looking right at me and smiling, and it takes

1018
01:07:45.719 --> 01:07:48.920
its right hand and puts it on the bush to

1019
01:07:48.920 --> 01:07:52.440
the right of it, and I go, it's watching me,

1020
01:07:53.360 --> 01:07:55.639
and so it pulls it back, and I pull myne

1021
01:07:55.679 --> 01:07:58.760
back and then it takes its left one puts it

1022
01:07:58.800 --> 01:08:00.159
over on the brush, and it looks at I mean,

1023
01:08:00.199 --> 01:08:02.760
I take my left hand and I do the same

1024
01:08:02.840 --> 01:08:06.000
back at it. It gets excited. Man, you can see

1025
01:08:06.000 --> 01:08:09.480
the excitement. And we start doing this, and it sticks

1026
01:08:09.519 --> 01:08:11.599
its left foot out the one side of the bush.

1027
01:08:11.840 --> 01:08:14.519
I stick my left foot out. It sticks its right

1028
01:08:14.559 --> 01:08:17.119
foot out, and I stick my right foot out, and

1029
01:08:17.319 --> 01:08:20.800
I'm about to die. I'm playing with whatever this is.

1030
01:08:21.479 --> 01:08:24.079
And we're mimicking each other, back and forth, back and forth.

1031
01:08:24.880 --> 01:08:30.239
And I bent down behind the bush. I'm gonna look

1032
01:08:30.319 --> 01:08:32.239
up and it drops down behind the bush and I

1033
01:08:32.279 --> 01:08:34.000
look out of the corner of my eye and the

1034
01:08:34.039 --> 01:08:37.880
mom does the exact same thing, and I'm going, are

1035
01:08:37.920 --> 01:08:41.159
they mimicking me? Are they playing with me? But occasional

1036
01:08:41.199 --> 01:08:43.600
is you do the same thing. So it comes up.

1037
01:08:44.319 --> 01:08:47.279
He does that, and the sun's bitting a little brighter.

1038
01:08:47.319 --> 01:08:49.720
And I got my hat, so I go down and

1039
01:08:49.760 --> 01:08:52.119
I put my hand over the brim of the hat

1040
01:08:52.640 --> 01:08:55.079
baseball hat, and I look up and I look across.

1041
01:08:55.399 --> 01:08:57.560
He comes up, but he's doing the exact same thing,

1042
01:08:57.600 --> 01:09:00.880
and I'm trying not to laugh. I am I'm so excited.

1043
01:09:01.319 --> 01:09:05.239
This little one and I are playing back and forth,

1044
01:09:06.199 --> 01:09:09.880
and it ducks back down. I ducked down. Mom ducks

1045
01:09:09.920 --> 01:09:13.199
down and I raise up and I point at it.

1046
01:09:13.880 --> 01:09:17.079
He raises up and points back at me and I go,

1047
01:09:17.239 --> 01:09:21.520
this is interesting. So I decided, well, maybe I can

1048
01:09:21.640 --> 01:09:25.439
talk to it. So I very quietly when it come up,

1049
01:09:25.479 --> 01:09:27.079
and it comes up and I point at it and

1050
01:09:27.159 --> 01:09:31.960
it points at me, and I go very softly, I

1051
01:09:32.079 --> 01:09:35.920
see you, And the mom said, and right she whirls

1052
01:09:36.000 --> 01:09:39.640
around towards me, throwing dust and dirt and backs up,

1053
01:09:40.119 --> 01:09:43.239
and I go, I scared it. I never thought, dawn

1054
01:09:43.359 --> 01:09:45.880
on me that it probably has never heard a human

1055
01:09:46.000 --> 01:09:49.359
speak that close. I think because of my appearance, she

1056
01:09:49.399 --> 01:09:53.560
thought I was another juvenile bigfoot. And she backs up,

1057
01:09:53.600 --> 01:09:56.720
and the little guy drops on all fours and it

1058
01:09:56.800 --> 01:10:02.000
lets out a whimper, and she he sued me. He

1059
01:10:02.119 --> 01:10:05.560
later puts out its hand, palm up towards its mom,

1060
01:10:05.600 --> 01:10:08.800
and I go, I've saw that before and again watching

1061
01:10:08.880 --> 01:10:12.079
Jane Goodall on the Chimps and Diane Bonci. The mom

1062
01:10:13.359 --> 01:10:16.920
reaches out with her left hand and she takes its hand,

1063
01:10:17.079 --> 01:10:21.520
and there's some communication back in from more like grunts,

1064
01:10:22.439 --> 01:10:26.159
and I take a deep breath and I'm gonna try this.

1065
01:10:27.039 --> 01:10:30.199
The minute she looks back, I reached my hand out

1066
01:10:30.199 --> 01:10:32.760
towards her, palm up the same thing as I see

1067
01:10:32.800 --> 01:10:35.520
the baby not going I'm gonna hold still. I'm not

1068
01:10:35.520 --> 01:10:38.840
gonna make eye contact with her. She comes up to

1069
01:10:38.880 --> 01:10:43.600
me on all six She's on her feet, her knees

1070
01:10:44.119 --> 01:10:47.439
and her hand coming towards me, and they have a

1071
01:10:47.479 --> 01:10:51.479
med tarsal break in their foot or joint where you

1072
01:10:51.560 --> 01:10:54.119
want to call it. And I can see the front

1073
01:10:54.119 --> 01:10:56.199
part of her foot is flat on the ground, but

1074
01:10:56.279 --> 01:10:58.319
the back part and the heels up off the ground.

1075
01:10:58.760 --> 01:11:01.760
There's that flex, there's that joint. And she comes over

1076
01:11:01.800 --> 01:11:04.079
and I still have my hand out, and I'm thinking

1077
01:11:04.079 --> 01:11:06.920
to myself, is this a wise idea? She could grab

1078
01:11:06.920 --> 01:11:09.880
me and throw me in the lake from here. She

1079
01:11:10.039 --> 01:11:15.159
reaches over and she takes my hand in hers. Now,

1080
01:11:15.279 --> 01:11:18.000
my hand is five inches wide and nine inches long,

1081
01:11:18.920 --> 01:11:23.439
and my palm in my hand fits between the the

1082
01:11:23.560 --> 01:11:26.640
knuckle of her thumb and the first finger joint, and

1083
01:11:26.720 --> 01:11:29.760
her fingers could wrap around and touch the back of

1084
01:11:29.800 --> 01:11:33.279
my wrist. And I go, okay. She holds my hand

1085
01:11:34.239 --> 01:11:36.840
and I look at her and I go, I'm sorry.

1086
01:11:37.520 --> 01:11:39.279
I didn't mean to scare you. And I take my

1087
01:11:39.399 --> 01:11:42.119
hand slowly and just put it on my lap, and

1088
01:11:42.159 --> 01:11:45.960
she's looking at me like, how did you do to

1089
01:11:46.000 --> 01:11:51.399
do that? She just calm surprised look, and she backs

1090
01:11:51.479 --> 01:11:54.920
up and sits down. I just holds still and I'm

1091
01:11:54.960 --> 01:12:01.880
watching her, and she reaches out and the stump is

1092
01:12:01.880 --> 01:12:05.960
next to my left foot. She taps on it three times,

1093
01:12:07.079 --> 01:12:09.079
and I go I think she wants my attention. And

1094
01:12:09.119 --> 01:12:12.279
I reached down and I tap it three times back

1095
01:12:12.680 --> 01:12:17.479
at her, and she comes up on all fours and

1096
01:12:17.960 --> 01:12:20.199
she looks me right in the face. And I look

1097
01:12:20.239 --> 01:12:24.399
her right in the face, and I figure, I'm looking

1098
01:12:24.399 --> 01:12:28.760
at a prehistoric human, not a giant wood ape. This

1099
01:12:28.800 --> 01:12:31.680
is more human looking, even though it has ape like

1100
01:12:31.800 --> 01:12:36.920
behavior and features. This is a human. It's a prehistoric ancestor.

1101
01:12:37.359 --> 01:12:40.079
It doesn't smell bad. It has a very expressive face.

1102
01:12:40.399 --> 01:12:42.720
And she's looking at me right in the face. And

1103
01:12:42.760 --> 01:12:44.840
I look at her and I talk to her again.

1104
01:12:44.960 --> 01:12:48.520
I say again, I'm sorry. I didn't mean to frighten you.

1105
01:12:52.039 --> 01:12:55.560
And I figure she's going to leave, and she sits

1106
01:12:56.239 --> 01:12:58.760
down almost next to me, and I look at it.

1107
01:12:58.760 --> 01:13:02.000
I'm nineteen years old and I am just bought ready

1108
01:13:02.039 --> 01:13:06.560
to burst of excitement. Here's this animal that people say

1109
01:13:06.680 --> 01:13:10.359
does not exist. It's sitting with an arms length of me.

1110
01:13:10.840 --> 01:13:14.800
There's a toddler twolve feet away from me, and it's

1111
01:13:14.840 --> 01:13:20.239
playing with me, and I am really trying to stay calm,

1112
01:13:20.560 --> 01:13:23.600
not jump out of my skin with excitement because I

1113
01:13:23.640 --> 01:13:27.000
am here having an up close and personal encounter with

1114
01:13:27.079 --> 01:13:31.800
a mother sasquatch and a toddler. And she sits down

1115
01:13:31.840 --> 01:13:34.920
and watch me, and she starts feeding and I start feeding,

1116
01:13:34.920 --> 01:13:37.520
and all of a sudden, the brush with a little one.

1117
01:13:37.640 --> 01:13:39.920
He grabs for the bus. He goes. He shakes it

1118
01:13:40.000 --> 01:13:41.720
at me, and I grab the bus and I go

1119
01:13:42.520 --> 01:13:46.840
back at him, and he starts. We start doing this,

1120
01:13:46.960 --> 01:13:51.560
playing back and forth, arm leg purs thiste this way

1121
01:13:51.680 --> 01:13:54.479
up down, and the mom sitting there and she kind

1122
01:13:54.479 --> 01:13:56.800
of looks over at me and rolls her eyes and

1123
01:13:56.880 --> 01:13:59.239
looks at the little one, who rolls her eyes, and

1124
01:13:59.279 --> 01:14:03.079
I look at her, go you obnoxious, big sister. And

1125
01:14:03.119 --> 01:14:05.880
we just keep playing like this and find I get tired,

1126
01:14:07.319 --> 01:14:09.800
and I said, well, maybe I should let them go.

1127
01:14:10.920 --> 01:14:14.560
And I put my arm on my elbow, on my

1128
01:14:14.760 --> 01:14:17.600
knee and my hand in my chin. The little one

1129
01:14:17.640 --> 01:14:19.960
does the same thing, and the mom does the same thing,

1130
01:14:21.079 --> 01:14:23.279
and she turns from the waist and she shows me

1131
01:14:23.319 --> 01:14:26.039
her backside and she crawls away from me and I think, okay,

1132
01:14:26.039 --> 01:14:29.439
she's gonna go, and she reaches out and she pulls

1133
01:14:29.520 --> 01:14:33.039
up the youngster and she goes over the bank behind

1134
01:14:33.079 --> 01:14:35.079
this tree, and I figure, she's going to put this

1135
01:14:35.159 --> 01:14:37.960
tree behind me and go down, or she's going to

1136
01:14:38.039 --> 01:14:41.039
cut to the right. And as she goes over all

1137
01:14:41.039 --> 01:14:44.319
since she comes up, she stood up the walk and

1138
01:14:44.359 --> 01:14:46.680
as she stood stands up against my eating of the tree,

1139
01:14:47.239 --> 01:14:50.039
here comes the bond head and shoulders across like, well,

1140
01:14:50.079 --> 01:14:52.600
there's the other one. It was just over the hill

1141
01:14:52.680 --> 01:14:55.640
from where it crosses over joins the mom and they

1142
01:14:55.720 --> 01:14:59.479
disappeared behind the tree. When they disappear behind the tree,

1143
01:14:59.640 --> 01:15:03.439
i'm I'm down on like all fours and I shoot

1144
01:15:03.479 --> 01:15:05.880
about twenty feet to my right because there's where the

1145
01:15:05.920 --> 01:15:08.720
trails intersecting. One comes up to the road and I

1146
01:15:08.800 --> 01:15:14.359
get over there to the edge and I kneel down.

1147
01:15:15.239 --> 01:15:18.279
And as I kneel down, and it's grinding pine cones

1148
01:15:18.319 --> 01:15:22.720
and dirt, and I go there's something. I knock something loose.

1149
01:15:23.520 --> 01:15:30.119
And I turned and looked to my left and about

1150
01:15:30.279 --> 01:15:36.199
fifteen feet away, five foot tall female blonde brown is

1151
01:15:36.239 --> 01:15:40.840
a juvenile female bigfoot and she just she has this

1152
01:15:41.079 --> 01:15:43.960
look like a bashful little girl like whoop, you saw me?

1153
01:15:44.000 --> 01:15:45.720
And I just look at it. And about this time,

1154
01:15:46.560 --> 01:15:50.079
off to my right, I hear whow crash goes a

1155
01:15:50.159 --> 01:15:52.319
tree and I turn and I look to my right

1156
01:15:52.600 --> 01:15:56.000
and I go distraction, and I see it. I turned

1157
01:15:56.039 --> 01:16:01.760
back to the left and the juvenile he rolls run

1158
01:16:01.840 --> 01:16:05.039
and takes off, running full tilt down the hill and

1159
01:16:05.239 --> 01:16:08.800
I look over and the male he goes up the

1160
01:16:08.840 --> 01:16:13.199
bank into the woods, and I go, why did he

1161
01:16:13.319 --> 01:16:16.960
do that? He's been watching me. I didn't realize, but

1162
01:16:17.000 --> 01:16:20.119
there were four other people. The other people that verified

1163
01:16:20.159 --> 01:16:22.479
they saw him and the female coming up, and he

1164
01:16:22.600 --> 01:16:25.880
saw them. I guess there were too many people around

1165
01:16:26.359 --> 01:16:29.560
because I was well within its comfort zone of the mother,

1166
01:16:29.760 --> 01:16:32.880
the toddler, and the other one. And so I turned

1167
01:16:32.880 --> 01:16:36.199
and I look, and this blonde brown streak comes firing

1168
01:16:36.239 --> 01:16:42.880
off the corner running through there's a group of Douglas

1169
01:16:43.000 --> 01:16:45.359
first saplings of our ten twelve foot tall and she

1170
01:16:45.479 --> 01:16:47.960
goes through them like a D eight cat man. She

1171
01:16:48.039 --> 01:16:50.920
goes right through them, and she's jumping and stepping over

1172
01:16:51.000 --> 01:16:54.560
logs and steps, stumps and logs that we'd have to

1173
01:16:54.640 --> 01:16:58.279
jump over, and she cools down about sixty five yards

1174
01:16:58.279 --> 01:17:01.039
of seventy yards blow me and stand still and turns

1175
01:17:01.119 --> 01:17:04.840
up and looking at me. She has that slope like

1176
01:17:04.880 --> 01:17:08.000
appearance at the and she's standing there looking at me,

1177
01:17:08.079 --> 01:17:11.600
and I go, okay, there's and I watched the juvenile

1178
01:17:11.720 --> 01:17:14.600
running around and go behind the mom and I'm looking

1179
01:17:14.800 --> 01:17:17.840
where's the toddler? Where's the baby? And I go, did

1180
01:17:17.880 --> 01:17:21.039
I scare them? Did she lose the baby? And I'm

1181
01:17:21.079 --> 01:17:24.199
looking around. I looked the area that she ran with

1182
01:17:24.279 --> 01:17:27.119
the other one ran and I couldn't see nothing. And

1183
01:17:27.239 --> 01:17:32.279
she makes a vocalization. I can't hear it, but I

1184
01:17:32.279 --> 01:17:37.039
feel like a vibration on me. That's that role infra

1185
01:17:37.119 --> 01:17:40.560
sound line of sight. And so I look at her

1186
01:17:40.600 --> 01:17:43.399
and she's looking in my direction, but her trying to

1187
01:17:43.439 --> 01:17:46.520
see it's like she's looking below me, and so I

1188
01:17:46.640 --> 01:17:50.399
come up to answer. I look down ten feet below me,

1189
01:17:50.600 --> 01:17:54.239
about two feet away, there's some huckleberries, and I see

1190
01:17:54.279 --> 01:17:58.880
this little button in the fetal position sticking out from

1191
01:17:58.880 --> 01:18:04.000
behind it. There's the toddler. It's on the ground and

1192
01:18:04.039 --> 01:18:06.720
I'm looking at it and I kneel down and I

1193
01:18:06.920 --> 01:18:12.119
say very sof to it, I can see you, and

1194
01:18:12.159 --> 01:18:16.479
it jumps up. It stands up and it's looking to

1195
01:18:16.560 --> 01:18:19.000
my right across in the direction of the mail. It

1196
01:18:19.279 --> 01:18:22.399
sighs and it's looking around, and I go, it's looking

1197
01:18:22.399 --> 01:18:25.760
for its mom, but it's looking at me at the

1198
01:18:25.800 --> 01:18:28.640
other and its mom is straight down below it. So

1199
01:18:28.680 --> 01:18:30.199
I take my hand. I put my hand up, and

1200
01:18:30.199 --> 01:18:32.439
it washed my hand and I make like a pointer

1201
01:18:32.880 --> 01:18:37.640
and I point really slowly down and it's mom. It

1202
01:18:37.720 --> 01:18:40.119
pulls its hand up. It makes it like a pointer.

1203
01:18:40.520 --> 01:18:44.119
It turns from the waist, it points and sees its mom.

1204
01:18:44.199 --> 01:18:47.479
It whips you around and it has this big expression

1205
01:18:47.560 --> 01:18:52.159
on its face, like you found my mommy. I'm chuckling

1206
01:18:52.159 --> 01:18:54.920
and I go, hey, I didn't scare you. That was

1207
01:18:54.920 --> 01:18:56.720
your dad or whoever that was throw down the tree

1208
01:18:56.800 --> 01:18:59.439
and growled, and it looks at me. But then it

1209
01:18:59.520 --> 01:19:02.880
kind of got but it's nerves too much, and it

1210
01:19:02.960 --> 01:19:06.239
ticks off, running down the hill and there's a log

1211
01:19:06.359 --> 01:19:09.479
about twenty feet in front of it. It's about five

1212
01:19:09.520 --> 01:19:12.640
foot and its hits it with its left hand and

1213
01:19:12.640 --> 01:19:15.000
it bolts it and it comes up. Its feet are apart.

1214
01:19:15.399 --> 01:19:18.119
He running down that hill. Sometimes he would swing on

1215
01:19:18.159 --> 01:19:20.640
a branch. It would It could teach Marshall and Lynch,

1216
01:19:20.640 --> 01:19:24.000
broken Field running. It goes down and it's stopped by

1217
01:19:24.000 --> 01:19:29.359
the mom, and I hear the vocalizations again. It's got

1218
01:19:29.359 --> 01:19:31.960
its arms up and the mom touches it, and I

1219
01:19:31.960 --> 01:19:34.399
can read that by language. Mom picked me up. Mom

1220
01:19:34.439 --> 01:19:37.600
doesn't pick it up, and it's there, and I'm watching it,

1221
01:19:38.840 --> 01:19:42.399
and like a toddler holds onto its mom's dress or

1222
01:19:42.479 --> 01:19:47.279
pant leg, it does that, and it steps in behind it.

1223
01:19:47.279 --> 01:19:51.159
It's mom and she's standing there left profile and it's

1224
01:19:51.560 --> 01:19:55.399
to her, in front of her, but walking. It's behind him,

1225
01:19:55.399 --> 01:20:00.319
and I keep watching and pretty soon it like he

1226
01:20:00.439 --> 01:20:03.039
does tree peak, It peeks out from behind its mom,

1227
01:20:03.359 --> 01:20:06.399
and I point at it and I go, I can

1228
01:20:06.399 --> 01:20:10.439
see you, and it pops back up and I hear

1229
01:20:11.119 --> 01:20:16.119
some more vocalizations, and all of a sudden, she turns

1230
01:20:17.000 --> 01:20:19.560
and he turns and he points up the hill at me,

1231
01:20:20.359 --> 01:20:27.039
and I hear a definite four syllable vocalization. And I

1232
01:20:27.159 --> 01:20:30.159
discussed it with Scott Taylor, who talks to doctor Johnson,

1233
01:20:30.199 --> 01:20:35.479
the linguist, and according to what they told me the

1234
01:20:35.560 --> 01:20:41.760
native megaicine, what the vocalization basically meant was and so

1235
01:20:41.920 --> 01:20:44.920
it is, or so you do I see you, and

1236
01:20:45.000 --> 01:20:50.359
it was answering back, and so it turns and the

1237
01:20:50.399 --> 01:20:54.760
monitor and it starts walking down the bank towards the woods.

1238
01:20:54.800 --> 01:20:57.039
And I got my right arn and by my side,

1239
01:20:57.039 --> 01:20:59.520
and I just raised my arm and I waved at

1240
01:20:59.560 --> 01:21:02.000
it at the two and he's looking back, and like

1241
01:21:02.039 --> 01:21:05.680
a todther would wag at you, it weighs back at me,

1242
01:21:05.720 --> 01:21:11.600
and it disappears over the bank, and I go, all right,

1243
01:21:13.359 --> 01:21:16.279
I'm gonna do two things. I'm gonna walk over to

1244
01:21:16.319 --> 01:21:18.439
where that tree got thrown down and see what I

1245
01:21:18.479 --> 01:21:21.399
can do. And I walk over there, and this tree

1246
01:21:22.119 --> 01:21:25.960
was dead, snags thrown down. It split almost like a

1247
01:21:26.039 --> 01:21:28.880
twenty five foot tall spear is on the ground. And

1248
01:21:28.920 --> 01:21:31.920
as I walk back towards the where the stump would be,

1249
01:21:32.560 --> 01:21:35.279
it smells like someone we turned an outhouse over. And

1250
01:21:35.319 --> 01:21:37.960
I walk a little bit farther and there on the

1251
01:21:38.000 --> 01:21:43.680
ground is two piles of fresh, steaming poop. And then

1252
01:21:43.760 --> 01:21:46.960
on one side of the water drainies on the side

1253
01:21:46.960 --> 01:21:49.399
of the road is a footprint. On the other side

1254
01:21:49.600 --> 01:21:54.960
is another footprint the size of a like a football bigger.

1255
01:21:55.600 --> 01:21:58.399
The male had been sitting behind me all the time.

1256
01:21:58.800 --> 01:22:02.000
He got up a threw down that tree. I think

1257
01:22:02.000 --> 01:22:06.319
that was a warning, and I looked to see what

1258
01:22:06.439 --> 01:22:09.039
he was looking at. From that position, I could see

1259
01:22:09.039 --> 01:22:11.239
her rise sitting and as I'm looking over the bank,

1260
01:22:11.319 --> 01:22:14.479
I see the tops of the heads of four people

1261
01:22:14.479 --> 01:22:19.359
coming up. He had seen seen them, and the did

1262
01:22:19.399 --> 01:22:22.239
that one bark for the family, and I talked to

1263
01:22:22.359 --> 01:22:24.399
them as we walked back to camp, and they said

1264
01:22:24.960 --> 01:22:31.239
they saw him go up the hill to the there

1265
01:22:31.319 --> 01:22:36.600
left my right, and the daughter said she saw one

1266
01:22:36.720 --> 01:22:39.079
or two that were like a light brown colored go

1267
01:22:39.239 --> 01:22:41.640
the other way and go, yeah, that's with the other ones.

1268
01:22:41.960 --> 01:22:44.720
So we walked out and I told him what I'd seen,

1269
01:22:44.800 --> 01:22:47.239
and I got back to my where I came to

1270
01:22:47.279 --> 01:22:49.479
my friends, go what did you see? I said, if

1271
01:22:49.479 --> 01:22:52.119
I told you, you wouldn't believe me. But I eventually did

1272
01:22:52.239 --> 01:22:57.359
tell him, and that is now that written. Indeed, that's

1273
01:22:57.399 --> 01:23:01.800
the one siding that I get the most questions about,

1274
01:23:02.439 --> 01:23:05.640
because like the first one and the other sidings, those

1275
01:23:05.680 --> 01:23:11.199
were all first time encounters with a bigfoot. The later

1276
01:23:11.239 --> 01:23:14.359
ones I would have in eastern Washington are with a

1277
01:23:14.399 --> 01:23:18.039
family of bigfoot that is camped that live in the

1278
01:23:18.079 --> 01:23:19.079
area that we camp.

1279
01:23:18.840 --> 01:23:22.720
At lenn This is absolutely incredible. It's probably one of

1280
01:23:22.720 --> 01:23:27.279
the most incredible accounts that I've ever heard. We had

1281
01:23:27.319 --> 01:23:31.359
talked about those pages you have written. You have got

1282
01:23:31.399 --> 01:23:36.239
to make this into a book so it's not lost

1283
01:23:36.279 --> 01:23:37.960
to time events.

1284
01:23:38.079 --> 01:23:39.960
No, it took me a while to get all my

1285
01:23:40.079 --> 01:23:42.399
notes I got took me a while to get all

1286
01:23:42.439 --> 01:23:46.720
my notes back together. I don't type, it's all can written.

1287
01:23:47.199 --> 01:23:52.840
They're all very descript of what I've seen. I have

1288
01:23:53.159 --> 01:24:00.319
drawings and pictures of glyphs, and they do communicate with

1289
01:24:00.399 --> 01:24:06.359
you and with others with glyphs. Also, they make the

1290
01:24:06.399 --> 01:24:12.680
wood structures glyphs. Some are for you, ones that they

1291
01:24:12.760 --> 01:24:17.199
leave for you you'll know it. Others are between them.

1292
01:24:17.239 --> 01:24:21.680
Some are arn't. Some are like a map of tom cantrellsis.

1293
01:24:21.680 --> 01:24:24.520
I shouldn't be able to read them oh ectual for

1294
01:24:24.560 --> 01:24:26.880
general ones, but I've had the ability since I've had

1295
01:24:26.880 --> 01:24:30.600
that contact with them to it. It's like I'm reading

1296
01:24:30.680 --> 01:24:32.760
something and it will jump up off the page. I

1297
01:24:32.840 --> 01:24:38.199
know what that means, and it comes from the interacting

1298
01:24:39.279 --> 01:24:43.840
with the Bigfoot. They choose who they will be friends with,

1299
01:24:44.439 --> 01:24:49.760
they choose who they will show themselves with. Most people

1300
01:24:49.760 --> 01:24:51.039
that are out in the words to see a big foot.

1301
01:24:51.119 --> 01:24:53.039
The first thing they do is point out, scream yell,

1302
01:24:53.279 --> 01:24:58.520
point a gun. Uh, they're gone. Are you talking about

1303
01:24:57.920 --> 01:25:03.399
a bit you bigfoot or a non habituated bigfoot? I've

1304
01:25:03.399 --> 01:25:07.680
seen both. Looking glassing across the canyon. I see this

1305
01:25:07.840 --> 01:25:10.960
black form by a rock. Okay, I put the glasses

1306
01:25:11.000 --> 01:25:13.720
on it. It's an animal sitting there. I crank it up.

1307
01:25:14.319 --> 01:25:16.159
I get a little reflection off my thing. It turns

1308
01:25:16.199 --> 01:25:18.680
and looks at me and stands up. It was over

1309
01:25:18.760 --> 01:25:20.720
a mile away looking at me, and I was looking

1310
01:25:20.720 --> 01:25:27.000
at it. That was ann not a habituated bigfoot. They're very,

1311
01:25:27.079 --> 01:25:30.119
very elusive. They'll see you before and they're generally gone.

1312
01:25:30.680 --> 01:25:34.520
The ones that most people have encounters with are habituated people.

1313
01:25:35.560 --> 01:25:46.359
Being habituated to people who has both positive and negative consequences.

1314
01:25:47.079 --> 01:25:50.039
You've got to leave your fear at home. If you

1315
01:25:50.159 --> 01:25:56.560
show fear, you're gonna get a negative response from them. I,

1316
01:25:56.680 --> 01:25:59.600
for the most tart have just been either sitting down

1317
01:26:00.119 --> 01:26:05.680
or stop walking and then seeing him. One in the

1318
01:26:05.720 --> 01:26:09.319
Eastern Washington family that I interact with, Lord's juvenile. He

1319
01:26:09.399 --> 01:26:13.199
used to walk along and follow me walking through the woods.

1320
01:26:13.199 --> 01:26:14.920
Every now and then he'd peek out at me where

1321
01:26:14.920 --> 01:26:18.479
I could see and when I walk in the area,

1322
01:26:18.560 --> 01:26:21.640
and I'd become aware that he was there. In a

1323
01:26:21.760 --> 01:26:26.760
very calm, quiet voice, I would say, come walk with me.

1324
01:26:28.399 --> 01:26:31.920
And after a while he would step out and see me,

1325
01:26:32.640 --> 01:26:35.960
and I would walk along and I would say, hey, company,

1326
01:26:35.960 --> 01:26:41.239
are you there. I've got company again. And I was

1327
01:26:41.520 --> 01:26:45.479
walking out and eventually he walked up next to me,

1328
01:26:46.680 --> 01:26:51.479
and that was a lifetime thing. I was going to

1329
01:26:51.520 --> 01:26:54.399
try and take his picture. I took my phone out,

1330
01:26:54.600 --> 01:26:57.479
turned it on, put my hands in front of my body,

1331
01:26:57.479 --> 01:27:00.359
and turned to and then I realized, no, that's a

1332
01:27:00.439 --> 01:27:03.000
defensive thing in their body length. That means go away.

1333
01:27:03.000 --> 01:27:07.600
He backed straight up away from me. And a lot

1334
01:27:07.600 --> 01:27:09.760
of people gotta if you see when you gotta learn

1335
01:27:10.199 --> 01:27:13.359
their body language. You see pictures of people describe a

1336
01:27:13.439 --> 01:27:16.560
bigfoot brings its hands up in front of it and

1337
01:27:16.640 --> 01:27:18.359
kind of like push away, and then the turns that's

1338
01:27:18.479 --> 01:27:23.560
go away or I'm gonna leave. That's that body language.

1339
01:27:24.800 --> 01:27:28.840
They reach out a palm up like mothers a baby.

1340
01:27:28.920 --> 01:27:33.920
That's that's a greeting. That's a comfort thing. Woodlocks are

1341
01:27:33.920 --> 01:27:38.720
a form of communication. Rock clocks are a form Sometimes

1342
01:27:38.720 --> 01:27:40.960
you can get away with imitating what they do, like

1343
01:27:41.039 --> 01:27:43.119
I shake a bush and shake a bush back at him.

1344
01:27:43.279 --> 01:27:48.560
But you got to keep your personal security and responsibility because,

1345
01:27:48.960 --> 01:27:51.800
as one friend of mine found out up there, he

1346
01:27:51.800 --> 01:27:54.880
heard a bigfoot banging rocks back and forth, and he

1347
01:27:55.000 --> 01:27:58.039
started banging the rocks and the same thing. Well, I

1348
01:27:58.079 --> 01:28:04.079
guess in bigfoot culture he would just you just challenged

1349
01:28:04.119 --> 01:28:07.479
the big dom male. And he said, like in the

1350
01:28:07.560 --> 01:28:10.359
God That's the King Kong movie, he said, he came

1351
01:28:10.399 --> 01:28:12.720
down that hill towards him, and he said, I got

1352
01:28:12.720 --> 01:28:15.079
on my claw and I was out of there before

1353
01:28:15.119 --> 01:28:18.000
he got there. You hear that whah like a bark.

1354
01:28:18.199 --> 01:28:24.079
That's some that's a communication that a male will do.

1355
01:28:25.079 --> 01:28:29.520
You hear like squirrel chatter, that's generally between a mother

1356
01:28:29.600 --> 01:28:33.079
and juvenile. I've been up at night and I put

1357
01:28:33.119 --> 01:28:36.119
some beans and stuff out on the rock, and I

1358
01:28:36.199 --> 01:28:42.600
kept hearing like turkey calls. Turkeys don't puck at night,

1359
01:28:43.079 --> 01:28:45.520
turkeys are in the tree. And I got up and

1360
01:28:45.520 --> 01:28:47.399
went over there. In the morning, I went over there.

1361
01:28:47.439 --> 01:28:52.159
All the beans were gone, There was no feathers, there

1362
01:28:52.279 --> 01:28:55.000
was no poop, but a lot of the brush had

1363
01:28:55.000 --> 01:28:59.600
been pressed down. Okay, And it's like Yeah, they were there.

1364
01:29:02.439 --> 01:29:05.960
There's lots of pros and cons about gifting and leaving

1365
01:29:06.119 --> 01:29:09.399
food for them. I leave food gifts for them. Some

1366
01:29:09.520 --> 01:29:11.359
they'll take, somebody won't.

1367
01:29:12.920 --> 01:29:17.920
Lynn. I I could talk to you for absolute hours.

1368
01:29:18.079 --> 01:29:21.000
I would love to continue this conversation on a later

1369
01:29:21.159 --> 01:29:22.039
date if possible.

1370
01:29:23.239 --> 01:29:27.079
That's possible. Yeah, no problem. I'll be gone. I'll be gone. Yeah,

1371
01:29:27.079 --> 01:29:30.399
I'll be gone in October from like the tenth to

1372
01:29:30.479 --> 01:29:32.960
the twenty seconds. That's when I go over hunting, and

1373
01:29:33.000 --> 01:29:35.399
that's when I go over and do some work and

1374
01:29:35.560 --> 01:29:37.760
research with the Bigfoot family that's over there.

1375
01:29:38.560 --> 01:29:41.319
Yeah, we definitely need to continue this. I feel you

1376
01:29:41.359 --> 01:29:44.520
have probably some of the most detailed information I've ever heard.

1377
01:29:44.560 --> 01:29:48.279
But thank you so much for sharing. Okay, You've learned

1378
01:29:48.279 --> 01:29:50.680
so far, and I look forward to chatting with you

1379
01:29:50.760 --> 01:29:52.319
at a future date as well.

1380
01:29:52.399 --> 01:29:56.000
Lynn, Okay, I had fun. It's all to help you

1381
01:29:56.079 --> 01:29:57.760
and others understand Bigfoot.

1382
01:29:57.840 --> 01:30:04.439
Yes, sir, thank you, thank you. Before we wrap this episode,

1383
01:30:04.479 --> 01:30:07.079
I want to say something directly to a very specific

1384
01:30:07.119 --> 01:30:10.600
group of listeners. If you're in the military, any branch

1385
01:30:10.880 --> 01:30:13.600
or forces, and if you've seen something that no one

1386
01:30:13.640 --> 01:30:16.840
can explain, or if you're a National park ranger or

1387
01:30:17.000 --> 01:30:20.319
forestry worker who's been told to stay quiet, or if

1388
01:30:20.359 --> 01:30:23.960
you're a pilot who's seen something strange down on the ground,

1389
01:30:24.319 --> 01:30:27.119
or if you're with the FBI a federal agency, or

1390
01:30:27.159 --> 01:30:30.680
working intelligence and you stumbled upon something you're not allowed

1391
01:30:30.720 --> 01:30:33.720
to talk about. And if you're a firefighter, paramedic, or

1392
01:30:33.800 --> 01:30:37.399
search and rescue responder who's heard screams or found tracks

1393
01:30:37.560 --> 01:30:40.560
that didn't make sense. If you're in the logging industry

1394
01:30:41.520 --> 01:30:44.399
on a remote oil field, or a trucker with government

1395
01:30:44.479 --> 01:30:48.119
contracts and you've had something happen that you've never told

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a soul. And if you're a biologist, a wildlife specialist,

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or a field researcher under contract who has found evidence

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you're not allowed to report. If you're a pastor, a missionary,

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or someone on a spiritual retreat and you saw something

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that shook your faith, or if you work in the shadows, CIA, NSA,

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or anything with clearance and you've seen what the public hasn't,

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then I want to talk to you, even if it's anonymous.

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You can reach me at Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com.

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The world needs to hear what you've been forced to

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carry alone and you're not alone. You've got the story,

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We've got the mic see you in the woods. Thank

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you for listening to this episode of The Bigfoot Society Podcast.

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Every encounter we share reminds us that the world is

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bigger and stranger than we think, and that the truth

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is often hiding just beyond the tree line. If you

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all that helps more people discover the show. And remember,

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if you or someone you know has had a Bigfoot sighting,

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please I'd love to hear from you, so email me

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at Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com and let's start

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the conversation. If you haven't gotten a chance yet, check

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out our membership community over at www dot Bigfoot Society

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podcast dot com and that's where you can hear tomorrow's

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episode today early in ad free and members only episodes

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every week. Also, it's a place to connect with other

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people that are into the bigfoot subject as much as

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you are. Thanks again for following along with the Bigfoot

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Society until next time, Keep your eyes open, trust your gut,

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and never stop asking what else might be out there,

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And see you in the woods.