Sept. 2, 2026

He Thought It Was a Cedar Stump. Then It Stood Up Near Lake Crescent

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Season 1

A hunter near Lake Crescent, Washington thought he was looking at an old cedar stump—until it stood up, doubled in height, and walked into the trees.


In this episode of Bigfoot Society, multiple witnesses share extraordinary encounters from the Olympic Peninsula and beyond.


Near Mount Snyder and Mount Bigler, an experienced hunter watches a massive reddish figure through his scope and later uses nearby stumps to estimate its size at more than 10 feet tall. Elsewhere in Olympic National Park, a family finds themselves being followed out of the forest after rocks begin flying, branches break, wildlife flees, and an approximately eight-foot black figure appears behind them.


Pam shares her sighting near Port Renfrew on Vancouver Island, where a huge, hair-covered figure walked out of a gully, noticed her approaching vehicle, reacted with visible surprise, and hurried behind a tree.


The episode also takes us to Winter Haven, Florida, for a disturbing early-morning vocalization; the Atherton Tablelands of Australia for Aboriginal accounts of the mysterious "hairy men"; and deeper into Washington for enormous tracks found near the Dosewallips River system and footprints that smashed through thick creek ice in the Cascades.


Lake Crescent. Mount Snyder. Mount Bigler. Olympic National Park. Port Townsend. Discovery Bay. Port Renfrew. Winter Haven. The Australian rainforest.


These are the accounts people carried with them for years.


Hear their stories in Bigfoot Society Episode 1190.



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you firsthand encounters from people who say they've seen something impossible.

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the voices of the people who've lived it. So settle

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So stay with us.

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please go to the CaringBridge link in the show notes.

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Thank you.

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All right, Bigfoot Society.

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We've got the privilege of talking to Pam Hall today.

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Pam reached out to me after a recent episode I released, uh,

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about things, uh, experiences that were had in the Port

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Townsend area. And, uh, uh, Pam just sent me an

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email and we were able to get it scheduled pretty quick,

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which is great. And, uh, Pam, welcome to the show.

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How are you doing today?

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I'm doing well. Thank you for this opportunity.

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Fantastic.

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Uh, It's interesting how many strange things happen around the

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Port Townsend area.

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It was the exact area that the young man shared

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his experience next to the YWAM compound and the housing

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project next door to it.

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Okay, yeah, so I'm very, very interested in this. Would

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you mind..

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Taking us through what things were like that day, how

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you got into the situation, and if you're able to

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share what year it was as well for context, that

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would be great.

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I've been thinking about the year. I'm originally from Ohio,

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moved to San Diego with my family, was intrigued with Washington,

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and kept taking vacations, exploring Washington and Canada for years.

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And when I retired, I decided to buy some property

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to build a home in Washington somewhere. I discovered Port Townsend,

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fell in love with it, was led to the property

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right next to YWAM on Discovery Bay. And I bought

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the property. And when I would return for visits to Washington,

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I would wander that area, the forest up the hill,

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the forests around Discovery Bay. And my first experience, which

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was minor, was in the forest.

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And I..

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I was walking and I was getting a very creepy

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feeling like someone was watching me. And I heard what

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I now know is a wood knock, but I thought

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it was lumbering or something, lumber yard. I didn't think

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anything of it. And then as I got deeper, I

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heard a growl. And I thought it was a bear

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and I needed to get the heck out of there.

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So I turned around and went back. And in subsequent

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visits to that property, I just got the creeps. And

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so much so that I sold my property there. And

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I live near it, but not there.

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So.

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That was my first experience, which is minor.

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Question about that real quick.

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So you said, and it's kind of off to the side,

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but you felt led to get that particular property.

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Can you share what that would specifically mean?

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The scenery of Discovery Bay is unrivaled. Um, the, there

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were only two properties at that time available actually in

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my price range. So that was the other issue.

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Gotcha. Makes sense. Makes sense.

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So you have some weird stuff happen enough that pretty

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much You leave the property, buy another one, and then

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did stuff continue to happen even after you did that then?

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Well, two other times which I don't know are Bigfoot related.

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I don't know. But there is an area that I

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also love near Cala Point by a stream.

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I went twice and got the same creepy feeling. And

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I would go down by the river and I would

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see the water rushing and I would hear nothing. I

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couldn't hear the, you know, over the rocks. I would

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see the fish, but there was just silence. And that

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was enough to... I haven't been back there.

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I do feel some protection from some other source in

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this regard.

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Oh, that's interesting.

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So you feel that there's something that's been protecting you

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during these times?

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Is that correct?

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Right. And if we get around to it, I can share.

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couple of miraculous things that have happened in my life.

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That absolutely okay.

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Absolutely let's uh well and really it's up to you

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because sometimes things like that will still start to happen

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you know everyone's story is unique sometimes there's like a

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bigfoot thing and then something else happens do you think

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it would be better if we go through the bigfoot

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related stuff first and then kind of talk about the

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other things.

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Okay.

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Yeah.

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So feel free to continue.

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Okay. My very first experience, which was dramatic on one

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of my trips to Canada, I was on Vancouver Island.

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And when I explore a new area, I drive, turn

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off on weird roads, get lost. But I've never had

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a frightening or dangerous experience. I'm very fortunate. But I

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was driving on a dirt road in Port Renfrew. And

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it was relatively straight. And up ahead, I saw a T...

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A road coming across, which was a T. And beyond

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that was a forest. And the forest was a little

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lower than the road. And there were large trees in

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the forest, of course. And I was almost to that intersection.

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And from this gully walked... A big foot. And it

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was sideways to me. And it turned its head and

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saw me and hurried to behind the tree that was

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just in front of me and disappeared. Well, I don't

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know that it disappeared, but when I had no other

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option but to turn at that point. And so I

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turned to the left. And as I was driving away,

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I looked in my rearview mirror and it wasn't there.

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It wasn't behind the tree. I don't know what happened. But,

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you know, it may have hunkered down or crawled away

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or disappeared. I don't know. But it was an experience

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that at the time when I saw it, I was

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so shocked. I wasn't frightened. I was just questioning, what

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did I see? I had been interested in the Bigfoot phenomenon,

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but never, you know, had never had any experiences. So

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it was an, it was a weakening.

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Absolutely.

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That would be a life-changing experience. So, Pam, maybe a

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few questions for you about that. What would you estimate?

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The height was of what you saw?

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Oh, gosh. I think it was because it was in

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a gully a little bit. I saw it from what

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I would think would be the knees up. And at

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least seven feet what I saw. So that's all I

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can say. It might have been eight and a half,

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nine feet tall, because I don't know how deep the

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gully was.

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So if you saw from the knees up, how close..

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To the knees were, were the hands were, was it

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like arms just down by its side?

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Or do you remember anything like that?

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Well, it was, it was, uh, like we walk with,

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you know, one arm going forward and one back and

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when it's, and it was walking that way with its

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arms swinging. And then when it saw me, it kept

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its left arm down. And went behind a tree.

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Okay.

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And that was going to be a follow-up. So some people,

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you know, even say, yeah, I saw something. It actually

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disappeared into the tree. It sounds like what you saw

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was more that it kind of disappeared into the trees.

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Not the actual plant itself, but it just like into

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the foliage maybe?

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No, because there wasn't foliage. It was just the trunk.

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It was a very tall, big tree. And so I

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don't know. I haven't heard that, that they disappear into

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the tree. But that would make more sense because when

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I got past the point and looked in my rearview mirror,

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it wasn't there.

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Wasn't there.

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Okay.

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That's interesting.

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It's just an interesting thing I've noticed over the years

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where I mean, it goes all the way back to, like,

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I think the Green Man legend of Britain. But there

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have been individuals that have told me, you know, it

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disappeared into the tree trunk. I, myself in Oregon, saw

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the silhouette of something and that disappeared into the vines

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on a pine tree. I'm still not sure about that.

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So how long did you think you saw or how

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long did you have your sighting for when you're driving?

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Well, from the time I saw it to the time

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I turned the corner and looked in the rearview mirror,

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it was maybe two minutes.

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Wow.

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Yeah.

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That's fantastic. You were able to see its face, right?

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Did you say it turned and looked at you? Do

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you remember anything about the face of it?

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It was the same color as the body. And it

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seemed to have hair up the side. I didn't see

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shiny eyes because it was shadowy or shady in the forest.

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I couldn't really see definition, but it looked all one

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color basically and flat, a flat face.

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A flat face. Okay. Interesting.

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Sometimes people will say it looked kind of more like

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a human. It looked more like an ape or it

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was just something totally different. Does it fall into any

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of those three categories for you from what you saw?

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It looked more... It looked like very big human, completely

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hair colored, hair covered.

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Okay.

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And what color did you say that hair was again?

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Brown, but it was dirty, you know, dirty brown, medium

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brown color, not really dark, not blonde, medium.

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Perfect.

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Thank you.

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Did you notice anything about the muscular structure, was it

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overly very muscular? Sometimes they're seen as not really muscular,

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but still.

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No, it was, it was big. It was, I think

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it's forearm was as big as my thigh. It was big. Oh, okay.

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Interesting.

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Um, No, I should say its upper arm, not its forearm.

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Its upper arm was big.

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Got it.

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Did the way that the type of muscular it was,

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have you seen anyone in sports or movies that comes

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close to the type of muscular figure you were looking at?

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That's hard to say because I think the, hair on

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it kind of occluded definition, if you know what I mean.

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Yeah.

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That hair was longer than some encounters I've heard where

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you can really see the definition of muscles, and I

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didn't see that.

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Did it feel like it was more You're looking at

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a male or a female. Were there any indications for that?

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I had the feeling it was male.

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Okay.

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I didn't see any genitalia or anything. And maybe it's

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just because it was so big, you know, I thought that.

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I don't know.

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Okay. And so how did this affect you emotionally? You're

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able to, two minutes is a long time. When you're

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able to look at something, how were you affected emotionally

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after this?

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Well, I drove out of there. I was in shock

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and questioning myself. And I was in the middle of

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nowhere on a dirt road. And I drove down that

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dirt road until I saw a little cabin. And I

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just stopped in front of it to calm down because I,

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I questioned everything, you know? So I, I was.

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I.

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Was shocked.

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By questioning everything. What were the kinds of things that

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you were starting to question after that encounter?

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What else is hidden? You know, what else haven't we

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been told? What else am I going to see? What

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that I've known is wrong? Just, it was kind of

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a brain dump of questions, you know, especially from my

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Christian upbringing. it didn't fit. So.

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That's really interesting to me because I, I, I get

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it too. I'm, I'm also a Christian, but I think

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it's a, could be a really interesting, why do you

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think this doesn't fit with, with our, our worldview, you know?

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Because we think we're the pinnacle humans. Yep. And it

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was a very humbling thing. And as I've, I took

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that as a milestone in my life because since then

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I've realized how powerless, how insignificant we are. You know,

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we're I live still in Port Townsend, a rural area

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full of wildlife. We're one of a group of creatures

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that are vulnerable and our ego is the only thing

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that really makes us think we're special. I don't know

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how to describe this. I've never talked about that before, but.

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Right.

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Yeah. Um, because, okay.

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So when you're having this experience, then was there something

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particular about the Bigfoot you're looking at that made you

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start to think like, Oh, this is, this is weird.

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I don't feel like I'm in charge anymore. Was there

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something particular about what you were looking at that made

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you feel like that?

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Well, his size, but the thought that it saw me

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and was as surprised as I was that, it wished

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it hadn't been seen. And then I thought, gee, what

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else am I missing? So, yeah.

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What were the certain things it was doing that made

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you realize that, hey, it doesn't want to really be seen?

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Well, the expression on its face was, it looked and it's,

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it looked shocked. And then hurried to the tree to hide.

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Okay.

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And do you remember particularly what you saw about the

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face that made you realize, oh, this is, it is

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shocked right now?

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Well, its eyebrows went up and its mouth opened a

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little bit, just like we would, you know.

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Right.

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Were you able to see teeth at all?

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No, I didn't see teeth.

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Gotcha.

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That is fascinating.

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Do you remember anything? You said that it had a

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flat face, right? You had said that, I believe.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Well, I think that that was the impression. And I

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think it was because it was mostly hair covered. You know,

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if it had been shaved, it might have been different

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or short hair. Sorry to interrupt.

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You're good.

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And you said that you could also, could you also

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see parts of the skin of the face that weren't

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hair colored?

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I don't remember that.

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Okay, that's fine. That's fine. Do you remember anything about

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the shape of the nose at all?

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Not particularly, no.

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No problem. No problem.

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So after this experience then, How long was it before

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you shared with someone what happened?

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Years. Years. And I shared with, well, I've had longtime friends,

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and I didn't know that the husband... what was very

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interested in Bigfoot and one visit with them. They're from Pennsylvania.

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He got talking about it and I just blurted out,

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I saw one and he's the first person who listened

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to me without laughing. My family, I won't talk to

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them about it. And, you know, they, think i'm crazy

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so i'm.

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Sorry you have to deal with that that's terrible.

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I'm glad that that gentleman was there to listen to

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you though yeah he was there um my goodness so

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after you have this experience then it's I mean, sometimes

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it can really affect people and put them on a path. They'll,

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they'll start looking into everything Bigfoot and trying to figure out,

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or they'll never go into the woods again. Did it

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put you down any of those paths or?

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Yes. The former I I've been to Bigfoot conferences. I know, uh,

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while I've met David Politis and Ron Moorhead, uh, Rich Germaux, um,

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So I've not shied away from it and I'm not

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afraid of it, but I respect it. Like not going

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to that stream anymore, you know, that I get the

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creeps in.

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Gotcha. Wild stuff, wild stuff.

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Sometimes after people have an experience that is really intense,

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like the one you had, they'll start to notice strange

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things happening in their life as well. Do you feel

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like that was the case for you, or did anything

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out of the ordinary start to happen afterwards?

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Nothing out of the, well, yes, out of the ordinary,

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but not fearful.

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Yeah.

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Is that something you'd be able to share about what happened?

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Sure. Um, this, this isn't Bigfoot related though. Is that okay?

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Uh, I mean, as, as we said before, sometimes, uh, the,

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the Bigfoot phenomenon can lend itself to other things or

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other things can show up. So I would be interested

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to hear if you'd be willing to share.

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One, the occurrence that, um, I don't remember. I was

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under two years old at this time. But it, for me,

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paves a pathway that makes me feel blessed. And then

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the other occurrence I'll share kind of proves that. I

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was born in Ohio, and my... father had been in

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the military. My uncle was in the military. My father

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had gone to medical school and had just graduated when

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I was two. And we were at my grandparents' home in, well,

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near Bay Village. And my uncle was coming back from

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service and my mother and my aunt went to pick

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him up at the airport because my dad was working.

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My dad got home, picked me up and we waited

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in the house on a porch swing for them to

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come home. So I'm just, a year and a half

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or two. And he was swinging on the porch and

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into the driveway comes my car, the car. And my

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dad and my uncle were just best friends. They loved

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each other so much. And my father was so excited

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to see him. And I was leaning or I was

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standing up on the swings. And when he saw the

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car come, he stood up. And the swing tipped over.

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And it was on a porch about five and a

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half or six feet off the ground. And I fell down.

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And I don't remember this, but several years later, my

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mother told me Well, they got out of the car

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and I remember walking to them and my mother picked

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me up and they were all, you know, and later

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my mother told me that they saw me float like

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a leaf to the ground. And I stood up. and

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was perfectly fine and walked to my mother. And I,

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of course, don't remember it, but I just think I

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was protected.

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That's very interesting.

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I know. I agree. Then my life changed, and they

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moved to San Diego. which I dislike California, it's hot

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and crowded and whatever. And I became interested in Washington

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and had the experiences. And I had had very bad

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asthma all my life. And when I moved up to Washington,

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my asthma disappeared. It is my environment, the forest, there

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are forests all around me, and I just was in

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the right place. And I bought a little home, and

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I'm just a week or two after I moved here,

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and I'm in bed, and it's dark. And I'm in bed.

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And very dark.

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No lights on.

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And the hallway lit up. And... the bedroom, the hallway

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ends at my bedroom door. And I turned and looked.

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And a white figure. I couldn't see any definition. But

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it was just white glowing. And it walked past me.

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Or past the doorway, and it said, truth, love, and

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beauty exist where self is not, and it vanished. I

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was just shocked. I moved on. I put that on

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my wall. I just, how true is that? I would

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never think of something like that, you know? And what

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a blessing.

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My goodness. That is one of the most beautiful messages

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I've ever heard. What do you think it was that

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you saw that day?

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I want to see an angel, but how do I know?

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Sure.

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Wow.

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So that was in Washington and was that close to

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any of the, the Bigfoot encounters you've had or?

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Yeah. Everything's close. Oh, sorry.

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I mean, in timeframe, like, did it happen like.

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A week after? Oh, no, no. Uh, no.

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Hmm.

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Okay.

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That is, that is incredible.

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I've heard so much about Port Townsend and there's people

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that say, yeah, there's a ton of Bigfoot stuff that,

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but it's also, I mean, it's all depends on what

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you're into because there's a lot of people that'll say

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it's a very haunted area. There's a lot of spiritual

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things that happen for some reason in that area. So

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I'm not sure what to think of it. I've never

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been there, but I haven't said, Would you hear of

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other people around town having Bigfoot experiences as well?

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Would that ever come up?

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Well, I stopped even mentioning it because everybody ridicules it.

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Nobody I've ever told, except my friend in Pennsylvania, has

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ever been brave enough to even entertain the idea that

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that's possible.

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So then I'm curious, why would you reach out to

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a program like this to share?

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Well, because it was in Port Townsend mostly and the

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connection between the property that that young man knew of

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and the mountain that he had his experience in.

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Right.

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Gotcha. Gotcha.

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Um, so the, the encounter that you had in Port Renfro, uh,

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is that the, uh, would you think that as the,

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the main, uh, the main Bigfoot encounter that you've had.

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Over the years?

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Yes, the main one, but, but the experience that I

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had at discovery bay was one that caused the greatest

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life change because I had to sell my property there,

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I guess. But the most dramatic and affirming that there

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are such beings was in Port Renfrew.

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Oh, absolutely.

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I mean, there's no question after having something like that.

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I mean, I don't know.

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I'm sure there are people that logically explain that away.

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But I mean, if I was to have that, I

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don't think I could. I mean, it would be quite

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obvious that they're real after a thing like that. Would

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you ever want to have a sighting like that again?

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I don't think so. If I were in a car,

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if I were, that wouldn't be as frightening, but Walking

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in a forest, well, see, that's kind of dumb because

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I walk in forests all the time. So I don't know.

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I guess I hope not. But I also feel protected.

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And I don't know if that's arrogant or... But with

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the experience of my family seeing me protected from that fall...

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That tells me something.

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Yeah, it's an interesting conversation because I know sometimes people like,

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you know, they're in the middle of the encounter or

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something's happening at their house. They will use like the

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name of Jesus for protection. But you're saying just from

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the feelings that you're having, it feels like there is

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something there. that is is protecting you through through these situations.

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I guess but I also I'm not afraid of dying

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I'm I'm afraid of suffering on my way to dying

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I don't want to suffer but I'm not afraid of

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dying so I think that's a big.

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Factor Why are you not afraid of dying?

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I don't know why. I don't think... I think the...

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the event of it, I mean, if I... something terrible

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happens and I'm hit by a car or, you know,

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something terrible, I don't... I don't... Oh, I don't know

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that I'm even afraid of that. I mean, I hope

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it doesn't happen. But I'm not afraid of being dead.

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I don't... I don't think it's... I don't think we're

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right about the afterlife completely. I don't think it's going

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to be a dreadful thing.

475
00:37:21.150 --> 00:37:25.940
No, I definitely... would agree with you on that.

476
00:37:25.980 --> 00:37:32.489
I mean, for me, it's not a scary thing because, um, well,

477
00:37:32.510 --> 00:37:34.949
two things, uh, for me, it's not the end.

478
00:37:36.389 --> 00:37:37.510
Um, it's really just.

479
00:37:37.369 --> 00:37:40.869
The beginning, you know, because I have my, my faith

480
00:37:40.929 --> 00:37:42.869
in Jesus, uh, Christ.

481
00:37:43.570 --> 00:37:44.349
And, um, I.

482
00:37:46.429 --> 00:37:49.639
Mean, that, that's, that's really the main thing. Also, the

483
00:37:49.699 --> 00:37:55.780
other thing is I've been able to live the last, uh, five,

484
00:37:55.840 --> 00:37:59.599
six years with no regrets, no regrets at all. I've

485
00:37:59.619 --> 00:38:03.460
been able to, to do what I love to do

486
00:38:03.619 --> 00:38:04.570
and to talk to people.

487
00:38:04.909 --> 00:38:07.150
And, um, I have no regrets at all.

488
00:38:08.070 --> 00:38:09.110
Wonderful. Yeah.

489
00:38:09.170 --> 00:38:12.349
And that's, I think that's a, a good place, uh,

490
00:38:12.409 --> 00:38:17.409
to be in. Um, but my goodness, what, what, what

491
00:38:17.429 --> 00:38:22.940
an incredible, uh, incredible encounter. And you're still, it sounds

492
00:38:22.960 --> 00:38:24.719
like you're still in Washington in that area.

493
00:38:25.739 --> 00:38:26.039
I am.

494
00:38:27.719 --> 00:38:28.300
That's awesome.

495
00:38:30.539 --> 00:38:39.300
Yes. Living without regret is an indescribable gift. All of

496
00:38:39.420 --> 00:38:47.719
our mistakes that we make when we trust forgiveness, that

497
00:38:47.920 --> 00:38:54.510
is just what a gift. Yes.

498
00:38:55.699 --> 00:39:02.659
It really is. Thank you, Pam.

499
00:39:04.619 --> 00:39:05.139
Thank you.

500
00:39:05.159 --> 00:39:08.559
Thank you. Thank you for coming on the show.

501
00:39:08.659 --> 00:39:11.480
That's a conversation I need to have for some reason.

502
00:39:11.559 --> 00:39:15.500
I'm going through cancer right now and it's pretty rough.

503
00:39:16.739 --> 00:39:22.219
But God is getting us through and it's funny. Conversations

504
00:39:22.280 --> 00:39:26.820
come up through these interviews that I need And it's

505
00:39:26.860 --> 00:39:27.809
just weird how that works.

506
00:39:27.889 --> 00:39:29.030
But I appreciate you.

507
00:39:29.050 --> 00:39:32.739
I survived. I've survived cancer three times.

508
00:39:33.159 --> 00:39:33.500
Wow.

509
00:39:33.980 --> 00:39:34.599
Oh my goodness.

510
00:39:35.519 --> 00:39:41.480
Yeah. Yeah. So yes, I'm I'll pray for you.

511
00:39:42.239 --> 00:39:43.880
Thank you. Thank you. God bless you.

512
00:39:44.860 --> 00:39:47.679
Thank you for, for spending some time with me today,

513
00:39:47.739 --> 00:39:51.510
Pam and, and sharing, your experiences over the years. And

514
00:39:52.750 --> 00:39:54.730
I appreciate it. It helps me more than, you know,

515
00:39:55.230 --> 00:39:59.309
but if there's anything else that ever happens out there in,

516
00:39:59.510 --> 00:40:03.349
in Washington, feel free to reach out. I'd love to

517
00:40:03.409 --> 00:40:06.110
hear about it. You can always send me an email and,

518
00:40:06.650 --> 00:40:08.769
and thank you so much for, for hanging out.

519
00:40:08.719 --> 00:40:09.320
With us today.

520
00:40:10.119 --> 00:40:16.139
Thank you. And I'll see you again. In eternity.

521
00:40:18.119 --> 00:40:18.559
Yes, ma'am.

522
00:40:19.099 --> 00:40:19.260
Yeah.

523
00:40:20.840 --> 00:40:21.260
Bashi.

524
00:40:22.559 --> 00:40:23.480
Hey, Harry.

525
00:40:23.699 --> 00:40:24.380
Hi, how are you?

526
00:40:25.460 --> 00:40:26.920
Good, thank you. I'm from Australia.

527
00:40:28.019 --> 00:40:28.559
Oh, awesome.

528
00:40:28.599 --> 00:40:31.980
I just came to join your panelists because like in Australia,

529
00:40:32.019 --> 00:40:33.639
we have like Bigfoot as well.

530
00:40:34.659 --> 00:40:35.199
Oh, yeah, yeah.

531
00:40:35.539 --> 00:40:36.579
You got the Yowies.

532
00:40:37.360 --> 00:40:37.980
Yeah, Harriman.

533
00:40:38.820 --> 00:40:39.000
Yeah.

534
00:40:39.500 --> 00:40:40.079
Real quick.

535
00:40:40.119 --> 00:40:43.559
So what's going on over in Australia.

536
00:40:43.150 --> 00:40:43.730
With the Yowies?

537
00:40:44.460 --> 00:40:49.679
So, like, as an Indigenous Aboriginal Australian and through, you know,

538
00:40:49.739 --> 00:40:54.469
our culture, we do have Bigfoot. We have different other,

539
00:40:55.010 --> 00:40:56.210
you know, what could I say?

540
00:40:56.309 --> 00:40:59.250
They are supernatural.

541
00:41:00.010 --> 00:41:00.429
Species.

542
00:41:00.510 --> 00:41:02.250
I don't know what you would just call a Bigfoot,

543
00:41:02.369 --> 00:41:03.909
like what species that is, but we.

544
00:41:03.809 --> 00:41:05.730
Call them hairy men.

545
00:41:05.949 --> 00:41:10.880
And how we, how can I say, how we interact

546
00:41:10.920 --> 00:41:14.090
with them is that, like, They're from the forest.

547
00:41:14.409 --> 00:41:15.010
You get what I mean?

548
00:41:15.170 --> 00:41:18.929
They live in the forest where we come from. And

549
00:41:19.429 --> 00:41:24.469
when we interact with them, it's crazy. It's because, like,

550
00:41:24.739 --> 00:41:27.139
these things can come– I don't even know how to

551
00:41:27.219 --> 00:41:29.139
explain it without sounding crazy.

552
00:41:30.139 --> 00:41:32.260
Oh, just say what you're thinking.

553
00:41:32.300 --> 00:41:36.929
Through my experiences– I've had friends that have interacted with

554
00:41:37.690 --> 00:41:40.269
smaller hairy men where they've grown up and these hairy

555
00:41:40.289 --> 00:41:42.630
men have played with them to a certain age.

556
00:41:42.690 --> 00:41:43.269
You get what I mean?

557
00:41:43.590 --> 00:41:46.650
Because a certain age, these hairy men could actually take

558
00:41:46.710 --> 00:41:49.340
these children away and never bring them back. But a

559
00:41:49.420 --> 00:41:53.320
lot of these hairy men, they are not like how

560
00:41:53.480 --> 00:41:57.000
we see them with the man face. They are uglier

561
00:41:57.019 --> 00:42:00.110
than that. And they've got jagged teeth and they, yeah,

562
00:42:00.869 --> 00:42:03.829
they hide in trees and they, Yeah, they smell like

563
00:42:03.909 --> 00:42:05.670
mill mud. When you smell mill mud, I don't know

564
00:42:05.789 --> 00:42:08.340
if that's the same with your hairy man, but the

565
00:42:08.380 --> 00:42:11.960
smell of mill mud is a sign of that they

566
00:42:12.019 --> 00:42:12.599
are around.

567
00:42:12.619 --> 00:42:14.639
Do you get what I mean? Oh, absolutely.

568
00:42:14.679 --> 00:42:15.519
Yeah, yeah.

569
00:42:15.860 --> 00:42:19.900
Over here, we usually say ammonia is the smell that's

570
00:42:19.960 --> 00:42:20.659
usually reported.

571
00:42:20.679 --> 00:42:22.639
Oh, true.

572
00:42:23.539 --> 00:42:26.980
So sometimes we can be tormented when we go camping,

573
00:42:27.340 --> 00:42:30.760
but to show our respect and our presence, knowing that

574
00:42:30.800 --> 00:42:34.730
we're in their territory... they eat fish. I don't know

575
00:42:34.829 --> 00:42:37.050
why they don't really eat meat, but they eat fish.

576
00:42:37.110 --> 00:42:40.070
If you leave fish out for them, they don't really, um,

577
00:42:40.510 --> 00:42:41.070
torment you.

578
00:42:41.389 --> 00:42:44.070
You get what I mean? They respect your boundaries, if

579
00:42:44.090 --> 00:42:44.670
that makes sense.

580
00:42:44.710 --> 00:42:44.929
Yeah.

581
00:42:44.949 --> 00:42:48.809
So yeah, they can chase you. They can scare you.

582
00:42:48.869 --> 00:42:51.969
But if you know how to respect their territory is by,

583
00:42:52.329 --> 00:42:53.510
you know, feeding them.

584
00:42:53.590 --> 00:42:55.889
And, you know, even if you say.

585
00:42:55.730 --> 00:42:58.599
Like, you know, hello, I'm a visitor on, you know,

586
00:42:58.619 --> 00:43:02.179
whatever part of you know, place you are in the rainforest,

587
00:43:02.219 --> 00:43:03.940
you just got to acknowledge, you get what I mean?

588
00:43:04.300 --> 00:43:06.500
If you don't, yeah, they can possess you. They can

589
00:43:06.519 --> 00:43:08.800
take you, you know, but I don't know where.

590
00:43:08.699 --> 00:43:09.320
They take you.

591
00:43:09.719 --> 00:43:09.900
Yeah.

592
00:43:10.300 --> 00:43:10.639
Okay.

593
00:43:11.760 --> 00:43:14.800
Have you ever had any experiences yourself? Is it a

594
00:43:14.820 --> 00:43:18.309
thing where you, you put yourself out there in the rainforest?

595
00:43:18.329 --> 00:43:21.440
So like, Oh, trust me, like, I can feel them.

596
00:43:21.480 --> 00:43:22.340
You get what I mean?

597
00:43:22.550 --> 00:43:26.570
I don't know why they haven't shown themselves to me personally,

598
00:43:26.989 --> 00:43:29.909
but I can feel and hear and smell them.

599
00:43:29.949 --> 00:43:30.449
You get what I mean?

600
00:43:30.510 --> 00:43:33.739
Where there are some people that have interacted where they've

601
00:43:33.760 --> 00:43:36.199
been chased, tormented, you know.

602
00:43:37.269 --> 00:43:38.710
Even grew up with some of them, you get what

603
00:43:38.730 --> 00:43:38.969
I mean?

604
00:43:39.329 --> 00:43:42.769
But a lot of our elderly people that were grown

605
00:43:42.849 --> 00:43:45.130
up in, you know, the forest and stuff, they would

606
00:43:45.170 --> 00:43:45.929
actually feed them.

607
00:43:46.239 --> 00:43:46.860
You get what I mean?

608
00:43:47.239 --> 00:43:49.719
And that's how you would earn their respect of not,

609
00:43:50.139 --> 00:43:53.800
you know, being tormented or, you know, having, you know,

610
00:43:53.820 --> 00:43:58.659
your property trashed by these big, well, what are they, beasts?

611
00:43:59.320 --> 00:44:04.309
Have you heard of any situations where there are people

612
00:44:04.550 --> 00:44:06.650
in Austria that have them living on their property?

613
00:44:07.489 --> 00:44:07.710
Yes.

614
00:44:09.190 --> 00:44:10.510
How do those usually go?

615
00:44:10.530 --> 00:44:11.949
Okay.

616
00:44:11.989 --> 00:44:13.949
So as a little girl, we used to go up to,

617
00:44:14.809 --> 00:44:18.130
it's a place called Atherton Tablelands in the Daintree of Australia.

618
00:44:18.989 --> 00:44:21.489
And there was an old lady, my auntie, oh, my

619
00:44:21.530 --> 00:44:25.050
grandmother's cousin that lived there and she was about 80.

620
00:44:25.050 --> 00:44:26.889
And there was, when we would go on her property,

621
00:44:27.210 --> 00:44:28.860
there was a certain time we had to go to

622
00:44:28.949 --> 00:44:32.179
sleep and a certain time that, you get what I mean,

623
00:44:32.219 --> 00:44:36.539
that would come. So When she would feed these, you know,

624
00:44:36.579 --> 00:44:39.139
hairy men every night, we had to be in bed.

625
00:44:39.199 --> 00:44:39.820
Does that make sense?

626
00:44:39.840 --> 00:44:43.400
So we would be put to bed before she fed them,

627
00:44:43.440 --> 00:44:45.639
but you could hear them. You could hear them, you know,

628
00:44:45.980 --> 00:44:48.239
on the roof and, you know, coming to feed. But

629
00:44:48.280 --> 00:44:51.570
they never really tormented us because they had the respect

630
00:44:52.070 --> 00:44:53.989
of the old woman that fed them.

631
00:44:54.349 --> 00:44:55.090
Does that make sense?

632
00:44:55.530 --> 00:44:56.070
Yeah, definitely.

633
00:44:56.090 --> 00:44:58.610
So that's how you, yeah, basically the respect. Yeah, we

634
00:44:58.650 --> 00:44:59.030
could hear them.

635
00:44:59.070 --> 00:45:02.280
I've never seen them, but I've seen photos. of them

636
00:45:02.320 --> 00:45:04.690
sitting in the trees where, you know, people have camp

637
00:45:04.730 --> 00:45:05.329
and they're scary.

638
00:45:06.150 --> 00:45:06.409
Really?

639
00:45:06.429 --> 00:45:07.630
Oh, wow.

640
00:45:07.889 --> 00:45:10.409
Like, if you've got a good.

641
00:45:10.349 --> 00:45:13.349
Heart and you're not scared, and that's another thing that

642
00:45:13.449 --> 00:45:15.820
they'll feed off. If they know you're scared and you're vibration,

643
00:45:16.679 --> 00:45:17.559
they'll feed off that.

644
00:45:17.599 --> 00:45:18.139
You get what I mean?

645
00:45:18.539 --> 00:45:21.940
But if you're not, they won't torment you. That's another

646
00:45:21.980 --> 00:45:23.460
thing that they use.

647
00:45:25.179 --> 00:45:29.449
Okay, so if you go into– these areas with fear,

648
00:45:29.550 --> 00:45:31.889
things like that, that you're going to get a bad

649
00:45:31.929 --> 00:45:33.389
experience is what I'm picking.

650
00:45:33.409 --> 00:45:33.590
Yeah.

651
00:45:33.969 --> 00:45:34.150
Yeah.

652
00:45:34.590 --> 00:45:36.829
Yes, basically. But if you know that they're there and

653
00:45:36.869 --> 00:45:38.070
you can smell them, right.

654
00:45:38.269 --> 00:45:39.809
And you know how sometimes you can smell them or,

655
00:45:40.190 --> 00:45:43.750
you know, hear them and you fear that still, if

656
00:45:43.809 --> 00:45:45.090
you take that fear out and.

657
00:45:45.030 --> 00:45:48.010
Just say, okay, leave a bit of fish, you know,

658
00:45:48.429 --> 00:45:49.610
they won't, they won't harm you.

659
00:45:49.800 --> 00:45:49.969
Yeah.

660
00:45:50.389 --> 00:45:53.820
You can't like, they're not meat eaters or human eaters.

661
00:45:53.860 --> 00:45:54.820
You know, they eat fish.

662
00:45:54.840 --> 00:45:56.400
Right.

663
00:45:56.639 --> 00:45:56.840
Right.

664
00:45:58.519 --> 00:46:00.940
Have you ever heard of any people that are able

665
00:46:00.980 --> 00:46:02.340
to communicate with them.

666
00:46:02.219 --> 00:46:02.719
In any way?

667
00:46:03.960 --> 00:46:04.920
Not in a long time.

668
00:46:05.000 --> 00:46:07.869
I did go to school with these two kids that

669
00:46:07.909 --> 00:46:12.289
their grandparents grew them up on property. And these little

670
00:46:12.309 --> 00:46:15.750
hairy men found friends with my friends when they were young.

671
00:46:16.110 --> 00:46:18.409
And they grew up with hairy men from eight all

672
00:46:18.449 --> 00:46:20.940
the way till they were 11. And then when they

673
00:46:20.980 --> 00:46:24.619
got to 11, their grandparents, you know, stopped them for

674
00:46:24.920 --> 00:46:25.500
playing with them.

675
00:46:26.269 --> 00:46:26.750
You get what I mean?

676
00:46:26.769 --> 00:46:28.789
Yeah, absolutely.

677
00:46:28.829 --> 00:46:30.809
Because I think at a certain age that they will

678
00:46:30.849 --> 00:46:35.469
actually coach a child into the bush and you'll never

679
00:46:35.489 --> 00:46:35.690
see them.

680
00:46:35.710 --> 00:46:36.849
I don't know what they do with them. I don't

681
00:46:36.869 --> 00:46:37.949
think they kill them or anything.

682
00:46:38.750 --> 00:46:38.969
Yeah.

683
00:46:39.769 --> 00:46:42.090
That's wild. Wild, wild.

684
00:46:42.789 --> 00:46:44.909
It's interesting if you really look into it how many

685
00:46:44.989 --> 00:46:51.010
similarities there are with the Australian Yowie versus what is

686
00:46:51.070 --> 00:46:54.820
reported in North America. It is very, very interesting when

687
00:46:54.860 --> 00:46:58.440
you talk to some researchers. But I appreciate you coming

688
00:46:58.519 --> 00:47:00.860
up and sharing some things about Australia.

689
00:47:00.940 --> 00:47:01.260
Thank you.

690
00:47:01.280 --> 00:47:03.519
Yeah, I just wanted to tell you that, but I

691
00:47:03.539 --> 00:47:04.800
appreciate that. Thank you.

692
00:47:05.460 --> 00:47:05.880
You got it.

693
00:47:05.900 --> 00:47:06.179
Hi there.

694
00:47:06.199 --> 00:47:06.559
How are you?

695
00:47:08.019 --> 00:47:08.980
Hey, what's going on, man?

696
00:47:09.760 --> 00:47:11.099
Hey, just hanging out.

697
00:47:11.320 --> 00:47:13.980
Well, it's an encounter.

698
00:47:14.199 --> 00:47:16.280
I mean, I didn't see it, but it's a very

699
00:47:16.300 --> 00:47:17.900
interesting story that I want to share.

700
00:47:17.920 --> 00:47:22.679
Man, so I was in Winter Haven, Florida.

701
00:47:23.250 --> 00:47:24.769
I don't know if you guys know where that is,

702
00:47:24.829 --> 00:47:27.550
but it's kind of like in the middle of the

703
00:47:27.590 --> 00:47:28.730
southern part of Florida.

704
00:47:28.750 --> 00:47:33.079
It's very swampy. There's a lot of lakes in the area.

705
00:47:33.099 --> 00:47:38.699
And I remember one morning, man, it was like still

706
00:47:38.739 --> 00:47:43.300
dark outside. It had to be like around four o'clock

707
00:47:43.320 --> 00:47:46.269
in the morning. And I needed to take the dumpster.

708
00:47:46.860 --> 00:47:51.079
to the front, you know, so I'm going out like

709
00:47:51.199 --> 00:47:56.369
pitch black outside, right? And I take a few steps

710
00:47:56.449 --> 00:48:00.769
as I'm pulling my trash bin up to the front

711
00:48:01.269 --> 00:48:04.409
and before I get to my wooden gate that I

712
00:48:04.469 --> 00:48:07.159
opened to take it out to the front of the house, man,

713
00:48:07.280 --> 00:48:12.920
I hear like if I could describe the sound, it

714
00:48:13.059 --> 00:48:16.400
sounded like multiple people but one.

715
00:48:17.440 --> 00:48:19.380
One entity, right?

716
00:48:19.739 --> 00:48:24.260
If you've ever, like, searched, like, Bigfoot sounds on YouTube

717
00:48:24.280 --> 00:48:26.980
or anything like that, like, hearing it in real life,

718
00:48:27.139 --> 00:48:34.420
it stopped me dead in my tracks. And I heard

719
00:48:34.460 --> 00:48:36.780
it for about, I mean, it went on for about

720
00:48:36.860 --> 00:48:42.380
five seconds, and funny enough, maybe a few blocks away,

721
00:48:42.440 --> 00:48:47.849
there's like a, like in a a reserve armory place

722
00:48:48.449 --> 00:48:52.320
I've never seen any activity there but as this thing

723
00:48:52.449 --> 00:48:56.139
was yelling all of a sudden you can hear like

724
00:48:56.159 --> 00:48:59.659
they turned on their loudspeakers and you heard like it

725
00:48:59.679 --> 00:49:03.179
sounded like troops in training I was in the Marines

726
00:49:03.280 --> 00:49:09.750
so it sounded like they played this audio to mask

727
00:49:10.369 --> 00:49:12.949
the yell or the scream of this thing.

728
00:49:14.460 --> 00:49:17.320
I stopped dead cold in my tracks.

729
00:49:18.380 --> 00:49:21.420
I knew it was a Bigfoot because I had investigated

730
00:49:21.440 --> 00:49:26.800
the neighborhood and there's a lot of banyan trees. If

731
00:49:26.820 --> 00:49:30.500
you're not familiar with Florida, banyan trees grow really big.

732
00:49:31.199 --> 00:49:34.159
I mean, huge. They're old.

733
00:49:35.619 --> 00:49:37.380
A lot of times they try to cut them down

734
00:49:37.480 --> 00:49:41.909
because a lot of critters, creatures and stuff, you know,

735
00:49:42.550 --> 00:49:48.349
can inhabit them. So, man, this thing went on and

736
00:49:48.369 --> 00:49:51.150
then all of a sudden you hear like the loudspeaker

737
00:49:51.309 --> 00:49:53.239
of like the troops or whatever.

738
00:49:53.780 --> 00:49:55.920
It was very out of place and very odd.

739
00:49:56.500 --> 00:50:02.760
And so, fast forward in the morning to maybe like

740
00:50:02.820 --> 00:50:07.090
around 10 o'clock or so, out from where I heard

741
00:50:07.139 --> 00:50:07.960
the sound.

742
00:50:07.760 --> 00:50:12.420
Originate, there's like this, it looked like a huge white

743
00:50:12.699 --> 00:50:18.800
dumpster truck, right? But the garbage trucks that run in

744
00:50:18.860 --> 00:50:21.340
our area don't run at that time and they're not white.

745
00:50:22.079 --> 00:50:27.039
And it came from the area that this thing, that

746
00:50:27.059 --> 00:50:30.320
I heard it yelling from, man. And it's strange because

747
00:50:30.389 --> 00:50:33.369
there had been a lot of, I want to say,

748
00:50:34.550 --> 00:50:39.170
forest fires or like brush fires that had been going on.

749
00:50:39.289 --> 00:50:42.289
And it was just weird.

750
00:50:42.469 --> 00:50:47.239
And as I saw this thing, like the dump truck

751
00:50:47.280 --> 00:50:55.840
driving by, like moments later, I see two black SUVs

752
00:50:56.360 --> 00:50:58.880
that I identified as like government vehicles.

753
00:50:59.800 --> 00:51:00.599
And I made eye.

754
00:51:00.559 --> 00:51:02.699
Contact with one of the guys and I looked at

755
00:51:02.739 --> 00:51:05.599
him and I pointed at him and I smiled. And

756
00:51:05.639 --> 00:51:08.000
he kind of looked at me and turned his head

757
00:51:08.059 --> 00:51:11.380
real quick and then he kept driving. But man, that

758
00:51:11.539 --> 00:51:17.239
area was a hot spot, man. Later that week, I

759
00:51:17.300 --> 00:51:21.159
saw like they posted a recording that, oh, they found,

760
00:51:21.219 --> 00:51:24.139
there was like a baby bear on the loose or

761
00:51:24.179 --> 00:51:25.960
something that they had caught.

762
00:51:26.019 --> 00:51:29.559
But I'm like, no, no way, man. Not at all.

763
00:51:31.239 --> 00:51:31.500
Wow.

764
00:51:31.579 --> 00:51:34.079
When did that, what was the year that happened again?

765
00:51:35.260 --> 00:51:35.679
Say that again?

766
00:51:36.420 --> 00:51:37.519
What year did that happen?

767
00:51:38.559 --> 00:51:42.519
This was like, I want to say 2015.

768
00:51:42.519 --> 00:51:45.119
You could probably look it up.

769
00:51:45.119 --> 00:51:47.860
2015 in Winter Haven, Florida.

770
00:51:49.360 --> 00:51:53.809
I remember that even like the picture that they had

771
00:51:54.210 --> 00:51:58.550
on like the news clipping was like some look like

772
00:51:58.650 --> 00:52:02.150
park ranger. She was young. She was all smiling. Like,

773
00:52:02.170 --> 00:52:05.650
I was like, this is like They really played this

774
00:52:05.670 --> 00:52:11.239
thing up, man. I knew exactly what it was. I

775
00:52:11.300 --> 00:52:14.000
moved away from that area a little bit after that

776
00:52:14.059 --> 00:52:19.019
because I just noticed a lot of different things. You

777
00:52:19.059 --> 00:52:22.780
could tell there were areas in the trees where they

778
00:52:22.820 --> 00:52:23.449
would sit.

779
00:52:25.530 --> 00:52:29.389
There was a real bushy area.

780
00:52:31.769 --> 00:52:35.320
I want to say it's my neighbors, but nobody really

781
00:52:35.420 --> 00:52:38.960
lived in that part but if you look.

782
00:52:38.800 --> 00:52:40.679
It looked like something large had.

783
00:52:40.780 --> 00:52:44.559
Burrowed a hole between like the fence and the bushes

784
00:52:44.639 --> 00:52:47.340
where it could like sneak in and out and then

785
00:52:47.380 --> 00:52:50.900
so I followed it on my side of the gate

786
00:52:51.219 --> 00:52:54.139
and there were like areas where it looked like something

787
00:52:54.179 --> 00:52:57.409
had poked a hole to poke through I mean to

788
00:52:57.590 --> 00:53:01.630
peek through it was just it was a lot of

789
00:53:01.690 --> 00:53:03.710
goings on in that area man but.

790
00:53:05.869 --> 00:53:06.710
Yeah man I.

791
00:53:06.690 --> 00:53:09.550
Mean from that day man I knew for a fact

792
00:53:09.630 --> 00:53:12.389
I knew Bigfoot was real but from that day I

793
00:53:12.510 --> 00:53:16.849
knew and in South Florida you know we have our

794
00:53:16.909 --> 00:53:19.280
own version called the Skunk Ape which is probably the

795
00:53:19.300 --> 00:53:24.079
same thing just a Bigfoot that prefers the swamp versus.

796
00:53:23.719 --> 00:53:27.739
The forest but it was pretty interesting man.

797
00:53:28.679 --> 00:53:30.760
That's wild I mean I'm looking at Winter Haven and

798
00:53:30.820 --> 00:53:33.199
it's just south of an area called the Green Swamp

799
00:53:33.280 --> 00:53:36.409
which is There's a lot that goes on in there.

800
00:53:37.150 --> 00:53:39.289
Thanks for coming on, man. And thank you for sharing

801
00:53:39.309 --> 00:53:42.469
what was going down in Winter Haven, Florida. I appreciate it.

802
00:53:43.010 --> 00:53:43.889
Hey, no problem, man.

803
00:53:43.949 --> 00:53:45.590
I appreciate you having me, man.

804
00:53:46.090 --> 00:53:46.769
See you guys. You got it.

805
00:53:46.829 --> 00:53:47.210
Peace.

806
00:53:50.809 --> 00:53:51.210
Hello.

807
00:53:51.829 --> 00:53:52.329
Hey, Regina.

808
00:53:52.369 --> 00:53:52.710
How are you?

809
00:53:53.469 --> 00:53:54.050
Doing good.

810
00:53:54.289 --> 00:53:56.650
I came across your live stream.

811
00:53:57.389 --> 00:53:58.269
Awesome.

812
00:53:58.289 --> 00:53:59.949
I sent you a request to see if you would

813
00:53:59.989 --> 00:54:03.010
be willing to share what happened in Washington State.

814
00:54:03.030 --> 00:54:03.800
Sure.

815
00:54:05.000 --> 00:54:07.980
Um, so it was me, my mother, my two children,

816
00:54:08.119 --> 00:54:11.380
and she had her dog. We were in Olympic park

817
00:54:11.679 --> 00:54:15.400
in Washington state. We were hiking on the trails and

818
00:54:15.480 --> 00:54:17.639
we happened to get off of one trail on accident.

819
00:54:18.179 --> 00:54:19.619
And we started going down and we didn't know we

820
00:54:19.639 --> 00:54:22.059
were off the trail because they had a bad fire there. Not,

821
00:54:22.139 --> 00:54:25.500
I guess, while back. So we're like maybe a mile

822
00:54:25.619 --> 00:54:28.550
into this trail. And then all of a sudden it

823
00:54:28.590 --> 00:54:31.139
was like pitch quiet. Like you, you just knew something

824
00:54:31.179 --> 00:54:34.130
was wrong. You didn't feel comfortable in the situation where

825
00:54:34.150 --> 00:54:37.940
we're at. And about five minutes later, this rock came

826
00:54:38.019 --> 00:54:41.739
from the direction behind us. It hit a tree perfectly

827
00:54:41.900 --> 00:54:45.199
and ricocheted off to the right. It missed everybody by

828
00:54:45.239 --> 00:54:49.079
a few inches. And we just froze. And then we

829
00:54:49.099 --> 00:54:52.219
heard banging noises. And I go, maybe we need to

830
00:54:52.260 --> 00:54:53.380
try to get out of this area.

831
00:54:53.880 --> 00:54:55.239
We took a couple more steps.

832
00:54:55.619 --> 00:54:58.510
Another rock was throwing at us. It ricocheted again off

833
00:54:58.530 --> 00:55:01.829
the tree. My mom picked up her puppy. We started

834
00:55:01.869 --> 00:55:05.239
getting out of there. We got around the corner. And

835
00:55:05.280 --> 00:55:08.019
it was just like these animals, like the raccoons where

836
00:55:08.039 --> 00:55:10.920
they were going up tree branches, animals were fleeing that area.

837
00:55:12.000 --> 00:55:15.139
And then we heard like rum, I think it was

838
00:55:15.159 --> 00:55:18.239
like a couple of branches got broken. And there's this

839
00:55:18.300 --> 00:55:21.909
big black shadow that was, you could see up behind us.

840
00:55:22.010 --> 00:55:25.090
It was royally coming towards us. I had to pick

841
00:55:25.130 --> 00:55:27.130
up the kids. I was trying to push us. We

842
00:55:27.150 --> 00:55:30.639
were running through thorn bushes. I mean, berries, everything we

843
00:55:30.840 --> 00:55:33.440
were trying to get out of this. And I kept

844
00:55:33.519 --> 00:55:35.760
on looking behind to find out where it was at,

845
00:55:35.820 --> 00:55:39.139
what it was, you know. It was just hitting the tree,

846
00:55:39.199 --> 00:55:42.110
like trying to get us out of that area. And

847
00:55:42.150 --> 00:55:43.150
it was like it was studying us.

848
00:55:43.250 --> 00:55:43.909
It watched us.

849
00:55:44.130 --> 00:55:46.750
It was following us where we were going. It was

850
00:55:46.889 --> 00:55:49.710
making sure we were out of its area. And we

851
00:55:49.769 --> 00:55:51.889
end up in somebody's landfill.

852
00:55:51.909 --> 00:55:52.909
Like a field or something.

853
00:55:52.929 --> 00:55:54.860
And we had to walk a little bit to get

854
00:55:54.900 --> 00:55:57.219
back towards the main road. And then all of a

855
00:55:57.260 --> 00:55:59.139
sudden we got over the thorn bushes and the berries.

856
00:55:59.880 --> 00:56:03.429
We end up on some road. like a big old road.

857
00:56:03.989 --> 00:56:06.090
And we were, we found out we hiked by five

858
00:56:06.130 --> 00:56:07.289
miles away from the park.

859
00:56:07.389 --> 00:56:08.329
We are that far out.

860
00:56:08.369 --> 00:56:11.389
We didn't realize it. All these deer started fleeing the area.

861
00:56:11.610 --> 00:56:15.889
There's like maybe a hundred deers just running like their lives.

862
00:56:16.750 --> 00:56:18.869
And it was just pure science. And then you just

863
00:56:18.909 --> 00:56:21.909
heard like growl noise, like a real, I can't even

864
00:56:21.929 --> 00:56:24.090
describe what we heard. I just know our hair stuck

865
00:56:24.179 --> 00:56:26.980
up on the back of our necks. Um, it was

866
00:56:27.019 --> 00:56:30.380
so loud. We just, it was the most scary moment

867
00:56:30.420 --> 00:56:31.679
between me and my kids and my mom.

868
00:56:32.750 --> 00:56:33.989
It was just the thing.

869
00:56:34.070 --> 00:56:34.750
It was huge.

870
00:56:34.809 --> 00:56:37.030
I mean, this thing was, I'm going to say probably

871
00:56:37.050 --> 00:56:40.530
about eight feet tall. It was black. And I mean,

872
00:56:40.639 --> 00:56:43.380
it was just coming. We didn't see no other ones.

873
00:56:43.420 --> 00:56:46.860
We just noticed the one that was coming down.

874
00:56:46.980 --> 00:56:47.820
You had eyes on it.

875
00:56:48.400 --> 00:56:49.239
We had eyes on it.

876
00:56:49.360 --> 00:56:52.780
It was just, it was, um, It was really scary.

877
00:56:52.980 --> 00:56:53.619
Yeah, it was huge.

878
00:56:53.639 --> 00:56:54.760
It was probably about eight feet tall.

879
00:56:55.179 --> 00:56:57.000
It blended in perfectly, but you can tell when it

880
00:56:57.019 --> 00:56:59.550
started coming down that mountain on that little ridge where

881
00:56:59.570 --> 00:57:02.570
we were at, it made its presence known that we

882
00:57:02.610 --> 00:57:03.570
were in the wrong spot.

883
00:57:05.530 --> 00:57:06.610
The kids were freaked out.

884
00:57:06.630 --> 00:57:09.230
Me and my mom, we talk about that story every day,

885
00:57:09.269 --> 00:57:12.159
and now we laugh about it in a way. But

886
00:57:12.179 --> 00:57:15.239
the kids, it was something I don't want to experience again.

887
00:57:15.260 --> 00:57:19.019
Wow. How close did it get to you, do you think?

888
00:57:19.039 --> 00:57:19.320
I don't know.

889
00:57:20.300 --> 00:57:23.329
Um, it smelled pretty bad. Your eyes were water. Um,

890
00:57:23.349 --> 00:57:26.989
it was just like, you'd want to gag from the smell. Um,

891
00:57:27.469 --> 00:57:29.869
it was enough that you seen the, how tall it

892
00:57:29.909 --> 00:57:32.840
was by the tree. Um, how it was pretty wide.

893
00:57:33.079 --> 00:57:34.059
I mean, really wide.

894
00:57:34.440 --> 00:57:36.880
We did find footprints, but we didn't realize that we

895
00:57:36.920 --> 00:57:39.000
thinking it was a bear, uh, Cause we didn't catch

896
00:57:39.019 --> 00:57:41.550
it at the time. Um, I had pictures of all that,

897
00:57:41.570 --> 00:57:43.150
but I don't have that phone no more.

898
00:57:43.170 --> 00:57:43.789
I wish I did.

899
00:57:43.809 --> 00:57:46.889
You had like three, you could tell like the tree

900
00:57:46.909 --> 00:57:49.530
was being beat up. The weirdest thing we found also,

901
00:57:49.570 --> 00:57:51.570
there was like these tree branches that were tight, leaned

902
00:57:51.730 --> 00:57:53.909
over like, like marking.

903
00:57:54.130 --> 00:57:54.769
It was weird.

904
00:57:54.829 --> 00:57:57.769
Like I never seen something you can tell it wasn't manmade,

905
00:57:58.329 --> 00:58:00.010
but they had, it looked like, like a, like a

906
00:58:00.130 --> 00:58:02.130
nest or something. The branches were all.

907
00:58:02.030 --> 00:58:04.570
Leaned over in one positions and just crossed over.

908
00:58:04.949 --> 00:58:05.739
It was really weird.

909
00:58:07.079 --> 00:58:07.599
My goodness.

910
00:58:08.070 --> 00:58:09.030
Yeah, we remember all that.

911
00:58:09.670 --> 00:58:10.409
What year was this?

912
00:58:11.670 --> 00:58:15.269
I'm going to say it was probably about in the 2000.

913
00:58:15.269 --> 00:58:23.269
I'm going to say 2010, maybe. OK. The Olympic Park

914
00:58:23.309 --> 00:58:28.150
is a pretty big place. Were you more on. There's

915
00:58:28.190 --> 00:58:31.050
like the Lake Cushman side. There's the Fork side.

916
00:58:31.070 --> 00:58:33.269
I think the Fork side. I think it's in between

917
00:58:33.289 --> 00:58:35.489
the Cushman and Fork side. Because we got off the

918
00:58:35.530 --> 00:58:37.230
trail and we ended in, so we didn't know where

919
00:58:37.269 --> 00:58:39.690
we were at. We had to ask somebody to direct

920
00:58:39.750 --> 00:58:40.909
us back to where we needed to go.

921
00:58:40.929 --> 00:58:44.690
Okay. Gotcha.

922
00:58:45.210 --> 00:58:45.730
Yeah.

923
00:58:46.369 --> 00:58:50.050
Were you up there by Lake Crescent at all? That

924
00:58:50.070 --> 00:58:50.769
sounds familiar.

925
00:58:50.789 --> 00:58:52.929
I remember we were camping there, somewhere in there. And

926
00:58:53.429 --> 00:58:54.789
we got off after we ate, but that's when we

927
00:58:54.809 --> 00:58:57.530
started hitting the trails. There's like a place you can–

928
00:58:57.590 --> 00:58:59.050
they have a bunch of camps there. You can sit

929
00:58:59.070 --> 00:59:01.570
there at the picnic tables. So we ate there, and

930
00:59:01.590 --> 00:59:03.789
then about after we got done, we hit the trails

931
00:59:03.869 --> 00:59:05.090
and then just started walking.

932
00:59:05.110 --> 00:59:09.250
Oh, wow. Were you able to see any details about

933
00:59:11.429 --> 00:59:13.480
the face of it at all? I know you said

934
00:59:13.539 --> 00:59:15.079
you actually had eyes on it.

935
00:59:17.599 --> 00:59:21.380
It kind of almost, I know it was really hairy.

936
00:59:22.659 --> 00:59:24.960
The eyes were not too far from each other. You know,

937
00:59:24.980 --> 00:59:28.460
the nose was wide and, Um, it didn't.

938
00:59:28.239 --> 00:59:29.500
Really try to attack anybody.

939
00:59:29.699 --> 00:59:33.099
It just basically wanted us out of the area. So

940
00:59:33.159 --> 00:59:35.280
it was, it was protecting that area that we were at. We,

941
00:59:35.429 --> 00:59:39.969
you know, um, I would say it was like blackish color, um,

942
00:59:40.809 --> 00:59:41.550
about eight foot tall.

943
00:59:41.610 --> 00:59:43.449
He's tall. I mean, wide and tall.

944
00:59:43.869 --> 00:59:48.849
His arms were really long. Um, but I can't remember

945
00:59:48.889 --> 00:59:50.250
the full details of the rest of it, but I

946
00:59:50.289 --> 00:59:52.489
know the face had hair all around it. Like maybe

947
00:59:52.510 --> 00:59:53.989
it looked like a different shape of weight, how they

948
00:59:54.010 --> 00:59:54.840
had the hair come down.

949
00:59:55.219 --> 00:59:55.880
It was straggly.

950
00:59:56.659 --> 00:59:58.239
Um, just really bushy.

951
00:59:58.989 --> 01:00:01.349
Did you try to report this to anyone afterwards?

952
01:00:02.389 --> 01:00:05.130
Um, we got home and I think a day later

953
01:00:05.170 --> 01:00:08.190
I was researching stuff and there was a sighting of

954
01:00:08.230 --> 01:00:11.469
a Bigfoot about two days before we went on that trail. Now,

955
01:00:11.489 --> 01:00:12.659
if I would have known that, I don't think we

956
01:00:12.679 --> 01:00:13.119
would have went.

957
01:00:15.360 --> 01:00:16.079
To be honest.

958
01:00:16.099 --> 01:00:18.800
Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. Or it all depends.

959
01:00:18.920 --> 01:00:22.280
Maybe you really would have, but yeah, some people are like, no, no,

960
01:00:22.460 --> 01:00:24.980
no thanks for me. I totally get it, man. What

961
01:00:25.119 --> 01:00:28.360
an incredible account. Thank you for coming up and be

962
01:00:28.400 --> 01:00:29.840
willing to share. I appreciate it.

963
01:00:30.300 --> 01:00:30.719
You're welcome.

964
01:00:33.539 --> 01:00:34.440
Hey, Ozark, how are you?

965
01:00:35.320 --> 01:00:35.860
Hey, what's up?

966
01:00:36.539 --> 01:00:36.949
Hey, man.

967
01:00:36.989 --> 01:00:40.969
Thanks for coming up. The Lake Crescent area is wild.

968
01:00:41.489 --> 01:00:44.389
Two things real quick. Would you be willing to share

969
01:00:44.769 --> 01:00:46.909
about what you've been kind of chatting about in the comments?

970
01:00:47.090 --> 01:00:50.130
So I know Lake Crescent is super, super active, dude.

971
01:00:51.059 --> 01:00:53.940
Yeah, so I grew up in the Olympic rainforest up

972
01:00:54.019 --> 01:00:58.800
there and spent my whole life hunting and foraging up there.

973
01:00:58.820 --> 01:01:05.230
And one hunting trip, we went up to Mount Snyder

974
01:01:05.309 --> 01:01:08.289
and Mount Bigler, which is pretty close to Lake Crescent.

975
01:01:08.369 --> 01:01:14.409
It's like just west, southwest of the lake in that

976
01:01:14.449 --> 01:01:17.739
kind of area. And we were up there hunting and

977
01:01:17.980 --> 01:01:20.000
we got our tents and everything set up, our deer

978
01:01:20.019 --> 01:01:23.090
camp set up. And through the night, we kept hearing

979
01:01:23.329 --> 01:01:25.829
rocks tumble down the mountain, and they were hitting the

980
01:01:25.869 --> 01:01:29.239
back of our tents. And we assumed that maybe an

981
01:01:29.380 --> 01:01:31.380
elk herd was up on the ridge line, you know,

982
01:01:31.909 --> 01:01:36.059
moving rocks around and making rocks tumble down the hill.

983
01:01:37.260 --> 01:01:39.420
And so we kind of brushed it off, and the

984
01:01:39.460 --> 01:01:42.179
next morning we woke up early, and we fan out

985
01:01:42.260 --> 01:01:45.739
so we don't hunt together. We hunt a spread area.

986
01:01:46.420 --> 01:01:49.579
So I went up this ridge line, and they had

987
01:01:49.639 --> 01:01:56.219
clear-cutted it, I don't know, probably 75 years ago before

988
01:01:56.280 --> 01:01:57.989
I was up there. So there was a lot of

989
01:01:58.610 --> 01:02:03.010
old growth giant cedar stumps and old growth dug fir stumps.

990
01:02:03.070 --> 01:02:05.769
And these stumps are pretty big. You know, they're like

991
01:02:05.809 --> 01:02:10.030
five feet, six feet in diameter. And so I'm up

992
01:02:10.130 --> 01:02:12.630
on this ridge looking down at this tree line that's

993
01:02:12.670 --> 01:02:15.610
about a half mile down the tree line waiting for

994
01:02:15.630 --> 01:02:19.409
deer to follow the tree line out. And see if

995
01:02:19.469 --> 01:02:22.639
I can get something to come up my way. And

996
01:02:22.739 --> 01:02:26.900
this is probably about 4,000 feet in elevation. And I'm

997
01:02:26.920 --> 01:02:29.840
looking through my scope. And I see lines of stumps down.

998
01:02:29.860 --> 01:02:33.739
Old old stumps down on the tree line. And I'm

999
01:02:33.760 --> 01:02:35.460
looking at this one stump. And it looks like a

1000
01:02:35.500 --> 01:02:37.000
giant redwood cedar stump.

1001
01:02:37.059 --> 01:02:39.010
It's dark lines.

1002
01:02:39.110 --> 01:02:41.309
Red cedar lines. It looks like rotting wood.

1003
01:02:41.409 --> 01:02:41.769
You know.

1004
01:02:41.789 --> 01:02:46.710
It looks like a fairly old growth cedar stump. And

1005
01:02:46.730 --> 01:02:47.409
I'm looking at it.

1006
01:02:47.429 --> 01:02:47.489
And.

1007
01:02:48.369 --> 01:02:50.329
I'm like, okay, that's pretty cool. And it just was

1008
01:02:50.409 --> 01:02:54.659
out of shape because of its darker red color. And

1009
01:02:54.739 --> 01:02:58.280
so I'm panning and out of the corner of my eye,

1010
01:02:58.300 --> 01:03:00.360
I see a little movement. So I put my scope

1011
01:03:00.420 --> 01:03:04.400
back on that stump and that stump stood up and

1012
01:03:04.480 --> 01:03:09.159
doubled in height and walked into the tree line. I

1013
01:03:09.199 --> 01:03:11.909
was like, well, that was freaky. At first I thought

1014
01:03:11.929 --> 01:03:14.750
it was a hunter that was poaching in a ghillie suit.

1015
01:03:16.110 --> 01:03:17.860
And so I was like, well, if he's seen me,

1016
01:03:17.920 --> 01:03:20.559
I'm afraid he'll, uh, come up and try to assault

1017
01:03:20.579 --> 01:03:23.539
me or something for finding a poacher. So I went

1018
01:03:23.579 --> 01:03:27.159
down the opposite Ridge line and double backed around to

1019
01:03:27.280 --> 01:03:30.230
see if I can sneak around the other side in

1020
01:03:30.309 --> 01:03:33.449
case I was seen. And I went back to where

1021
01:03:33.469 --> 01:03:37.130
that stump was and there was a stump next to

1022
01:03:37.190 --> 01:03:42.070
it too. That was about the similar size. I'm roughly

1023
01:03:42.159 --> 01:03:45.349
five foot six, five foot seven. And when I got

1024
01:03:45.389 --> 01:03:48.309
down to those stumps, they were as tall as I was.

1025
01:03:48.829 --> 01:03:52.320
And so whatever it was, stood up and doubled the

1026
01:03:52.360 --> 01:03:56.320
height of those stumps, but had that same coloration as

1027
01:03:56.380 --> 01:03:59.840
a rotting old cedar stump. So it was red with dark,

1028
01:04:00.920 --> 01:04:04.099
dark browns and blacks, but you could really tell it

1029
01:04:04.119 --> 01:04:05.820
was red. And then when I saw the width of

1030
01:04:05.880 --> 01:04:08.469
that stump, I realized what I was looking at was

1031
01:04:08.610 --> 01:04:11.170
over four and a half feet wide and over 10

1032
01:04:11.170 --> 01:04:12.929
feet tall that walked away.

1033
01:04:12.949 --> 01:04:14.550
Oh my gosh.

1034
01:04:15.010 --> 01:04:18.369
Goodness and ever since then i have not hunted those

1035
01:04:18.429 --> 01:04:19.449
mountains alone again i.

1036
01:04:20.469 --> 01:04:23.030
Don't blame you for sure um man the stuff i

1037
01:04:23.070 --> 01:04:26.400
hear from out in that area is wild did you

1038
01:04:26.420 --> 01:04:28.000
try to report that to anyone.

1039
01:04:28.739 --> 01:04:35.760
Um i didn't because that area that i i can't

1040
01:04:35.800 --> 01:04:39.809
really specifically say i'll give one hint is uh roosevelt

1041
01:04:39.889 --> 01:04:41.630
did a lot of the studies on the elk in

1042
01:04:41.670 --> 01:04:43.730
that area and so there's a lot of the old

1043
01:04:43.829 --> 01:04:46.690
pens and watchtowers that are up there that i don't

1044
01:04:46.730 --> 01:04:48.389
want a bunch of people knowing where they are because

1045
01:04:48.449 --> 01:04:50.889
i'll just demolish them and and ruin.

1046
01:04:50.710 --> 01:04:52.949
I got it oh i totally got it's the same

1047
01:04:52.989 --> 01:04:57.420
thing down in the you talk to hunters they know

1048
01:04:57.639 --> 01:05:01.159
because dude the sasquatches follow the elk herds that's all

1049
01:05:01.179 --> 01:05:03.699
there is to it you know it's just it's it's

1050
01:05:03.760 --> 01:05:07.530
wild but it makes sense logically um So growing up

1051
01:05:07.570 --> 01:05:09.630
in this area, is it a thing where you would

1052
01:05:09.670 --> 01:05:12.750
hear a lot? Would you hear about Bigfoot a lot?

1053
01:05:12.789 --> 01:05:15.329
People talk about it or they not really talk about it?

1054
01:05:15.349 --> 01:05:20.079
Well, see my family, um, were Norwegian and German settlers

1055
01:05:20.159 --> 01:05:23.619
ever since the logging community really took off in the

1056
01:05:23.679 --> 01:05:28.019
Olympic rainforest. And in my family, there's been reports. And

1057
01:05:28.039 --> 01:05:33.619
then I was also good friends and, uh, with the

1058
01:05:33.639 --> 01:05:39.070
Macaws and the Suquamish tribes. And they have had stories

1059
01:05:39.750 --> 01:05:44.329
for years about, uh, uh, the men in the mountains

1060
01:05:44.409 --> 01:05:48.800
or the tree men or Sasquatch or skookums, skookums is

1061
01:05:48.840 --> 01:05:50.980
what they call them. And so there's been a lot

1062
01:05:51.000 --> 01:05:54.039
of reports, but I don't know if they've been like, uh,

1063
01:05:54.079 --> 01:05:56.059
BFRO or anything like.

1064
01:05:55.940 --> 01:06:01.059
That, which to it, yeah, it doesn't really matter to

1065
01:06:01.079 --> 01:06:01.500
be fair.

1066
01:06:02.099 --> 01:06:07.409
Uh, I'm at that point, but, um, So, but I

1067
01:06:07.429 --> 01:06:08.230
get it. I get it.

1068
01:06:09.210 --> 01:06:12.989
But even some of the tribe's drawings that they have

1069
01:06:13.110 --> 01:06:16.230
on some of their deer skins that, you know, are

1070
01:06:16.789 --> 01:06:19.889
back way before Chief Sells, you know, the chief that

1071
01:06:19.929 --> 01:06:25.440
owns Seattle, way back before him, they have textiles and

1072
01:06:25.539 --> 01:06:28.239
things that are mentioning stories about the wild men in

1073
01:06:28.260 --> 01:06:31.900
the forest, you know, the skookum. And so that's a

1074
01:06:31.920 --> 01:06:32.719
pretty interesting point.

1075
01:06:34.190 --> 01:06:38.050
That, that is very interesting. I mean, I've heard stuff

1076
01:06:38.190 --> 01:06:42.070
all the way from like forks over to what's the

1077
01:06:42.090 --> 01:06:44.969
other Lake, uh, Lake Quinault has a lot of stuff

1078
01:06:45.349 --> 01:06:49.110
going on over there. Uh, Lake Crescent, Lake Cushman, all the,

1079
01:06:49.250 --> 01:06:51.889
all the lakes seems to have.

1080
01:06:52.860 --> 01:06:55.469
There was another incident. It's I can't remember the, it's

1081
01:06:55.489 --> 01:06:58.019
a very small Lake. I think it's like Lake Lucy

1082
01:06:58.059 --> 01:07:02.179
or something or Lucille and it's up by Brennan, Washington,

1083
01:07:02.239 --> 01:07:05.489
same forest in the Olympics. but it's over by Brennan

1084
01:07:06.369 --> 01:07:11.469
and it dries up seasonally. And in the mud, there

1085
01:07:11.510 --> 01:07:14.920
was footprints that went down like 18 inches deep in

1086
01:07:14.960 --> 01:07:19.260
the mud. And we have some property on the backside

1087
01:07:19.280 --> 01:07:21.599
of that mountain. It's like, I think it's called, we, we,

1088
01:07:22.260 --> 01:07:23.880
I don't know the real name. We call it, we

1089
01:07:23.920 --> 01:07:27.159
grew up calling it green mountain. Okay.

1090
01:07:27.579 --> 01:07:28.079
Interesting.

1091
01:07:28.119 --> 01:07:28.360
Yeah.

1092
01:07:28.420 --> 01:07:32.179
Yeah. One of those like Locals always have the really

1093
01:07:32.199 --> 01:07:34.489
cool names you're not going to find on maps, for sure.

1094
01:07:35.389 --> 01:07:37.969
And I just know it's attached to the Dosie Wallops River.

1095
01:07:39.829 --> 01:07:44.440
Oh, man, I had a TikTok go super viral about

1096
01:07:44.480 --> 01:07:48.300
the Dosie Wallops. There was a Dosie Wallops encounter about

1097
01:07:48.320 --> 01:07:52.880
a year ago. That was a pretty big one. So

1098
01:07:53.300 --> 01:07:56.409
maybe one more question. Thank you for hanging out with me,

1099
01:07:56.849 --> 01:08:01.530
for sure. Growing up, was there a story about the

1100
01:08:01.550 --> 01:08:04.840
Sasquatch that you would always come up at the campfires

1101
01:08:04.889 --> 01:08:07.289
or one that really sticks out.

1102
01:08:07.360 --> 01:08:07.920
In your memory?

1103
01:08:08.980 --> 01:08:11.980
Well, the biggest one was when we were all kids.

1104
01:08:13.400 --> 01:08:16.300
It wasn't in the Olympics. We were up in the Cascades.

1105
01:08:17.199 --> 01:08:20.739
All the boys in my family, we were in the Cascades.

1106
01:08:20.760 --> 01:08:24.460
I was probably nine years old. That story really comes

1107
01:08:24.600 --> 01:08:27.520
up because it was a snow hunt. And so we

1108
01:08:27.539 --> 01:08:31.079
were hunting elk and then trying to bag a cougar,

1109
01:08:31.300 --> 01:08:35.270
the family was. And we were way up in the Cascades,

1110
01:08:35.329 --> 01:08:37.850
so there was snowfall all over on the ground, and

1111
01:08:37.949 --> 01:08:40.569
all the little creeks were frozen. They had ice layers

1112
01:08:40.670 --> 01:08:45.300
on them. And when everybody had went out for their

1113
01:08:45.340 --> 01:08:47.399
hunt for the day, when everybody got back, there was

1114
01:08:47.420 --> 01:08:50.699
this stream that was by. And in the ice by

1115
01:08:50.760 --> 01:08:56.369
our camp, was massive, massive footprints. Huge ones just shattered

1116
01:08:56.409 --> 01:09:00.960
right through this probably seven inches thick of creek ice

1117
01:09:01.800 --> 01:09:05.079
wow and just massive prints going through it and we

1118
01:09:06.079 --> 01:09:07.979
chalked it up to a bear but i've never seen

1119
01:09:08.039 --> 01:09:11.020
a bear with prints that big and it just it

1120
01:09:11.060 --> 01:09:14.260
seemed like this bear quote unquote would have been walking

1121
01:09:14.340 --> 01:09:17.500
on two legs but my grandfather was really convinced that

1122
01:09:17.579 --> 01:09:20.439
it was a It was a skookum or a Sasquatch.

1123
01:09:20.760 --> 01:09:21.699
Oh yeah, absolutely.

1124
01:09:21.960 --> 01:09:25.260
That's so, I remember, man, the first time you see

1125
01:09:25.319 --> 01:09:27.979
a print out in the woods and you realize how

1126
01:09:28.060 --> 01:09:30.199
big it is and that no one else is out there.

1127
01:09:30.500 --> 01:09:33.479
You're like, it just blows your mind. It absolutely blows

1128
01:09:33.520 --> 01:09:35.630
your mind, man. It's so wild.

1129
01:09:36.329 --> 01:09:38.529
In the Olympics, a lot of the ground is so

1130
01:09:39.210 --> 01:09:44.430
impassable that realistically it's like 80% unexplored.

1131
01:09:44.449 --> 01:09:47.960
Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. Absolutely. I heard.

1132
01:09:47.979 --> 01:09:50.119
This is where no human has ever seen.

1133
01:09:50.140 --> 01:09:52.460
A hundred percent.

1134
01:09:53.100 --> 01:09:55.659
I heard a story in the Olympics about this guy

1135
01:09:55.680 --> 01:09:57.390
who was a mushroom hunter. He was up there with

1136
01:09:57.430 --> 01:10:01.470
his truck and they wanted him out of there so bad.

1137
01:10:01.510 --> 01:10:04.090
They ended up, he was in the back of the truck.

1138
01:10:04.109 --> 01:10:07.590
They ended up flipping the truck. He barely got away.

1139
01:10:07.789 --> 01:10:09.869
And then he just left the truck there. Didn't never

1140
01:10:09.930 --> 01:10:13.350
went back for the truck. It was crazy stuff. But man,

1141
01:10:14.329 --> 01:10:14.810
you never know.

1142
01:10:15.550 --> 01:10:17.369
There is this one place that I know of, and

1143
01:10:17.409 --> 01:10:19.659
it takes quite a bit. There's no trails to it.

1144
01:10:20.520 --> 01:10:22.920
There's no hike trails or paths to get to it.

1145
01:10:23.560 --> 01:10:29.399
But there's this ancient Ice Age riverbed, and the glaciers

1146
01:10:30.180 --> 01:10:33.680
created this river channel that's within the middle of the rainforest.

1147
01:10:34.649 --> 01:10:37.350
And when you see a dried riverbed, you think, okay,

1148
01:10:37.670 --> 01:10:42.210
soccer ball-sized stones for all the rock and stuff. That

1149
01:10:42.229 --> 01:10:45.350
it's dried up riverbed. But these stones, what would be

1150
01:10:45.369 --> 01:10:48.590
a normal river stone, are the size of a three-story house.

1151
01:10:51.649 --> 01:10:56.109
And so you could fall in these cracks in between

1152
01:10:56.130 --> 01:11:00.109
the rivers and disappear. But at the same time, if

1153
01:11:00.149 --> 01:11:03.960
you go down and climb in there, it's literally an

1154
01:11:04.300 --> 01:11:08.220
ancient labyrinth of giant megalithic stones that was caused by

1155
01:11:08.260 --> 01:11:13.640
the Ice Age. And any creature could... build a whole

1156
01:11:13.680 --> 01:11:15.600
civilization in there if they wanted.

1157
01:11:15.380 --> 01:11:17.520
To go a hundred percent.

1158
01:11:17.560 --> 01:11:17.729
Yeah.

1159
01:11:17.770 --> 01:11:19.829
It could be one of those things where you go

1160
01:11:19.869 --> 01:11:23.050
through the right bunch of rocks and then you could

1161
01:11:23.090 --> 01:11:25.869
even have like a whole Valley in there, like over

1162
01:11:26.149 --> 01:11:29.310
in China. You don't know, but dude, Ozark, this has

1163
01:11:29.329 --> 01:11:32.050
been an awesome conversation. I really appreciate you coming up

1164
01:11:32.149 --> 01:11:33.220
and chatting, dude.

1165
01:11:33.399 --> 01:11:34.180
I'm going to follow you.

1166
01:11:34.720 --> 01:11:38.140
I have one more so much to say on this.

1167
01:11:39.039 --> 01:11:41.880
People want to say, I've hunted for years and foraged

1168
01:11:41.899 --> 01:11:45.180
for years. People want to say, well, there's no skeletal evidence.

1169
01:11:45.220 --> 01:11:51.359
And the reason is badgers, squirrels, chipmunks, mice, they need

1170
01:11:51.399 --> 01:11:54.180
calcium too. And the only way to get it in

1171
01:11:54.199 --> 01:11:57.199
the wilderness is from bone. And that's why you see

1172
01:11:57.239 --> 01:12:03.960
bones spread out everywhere. It's not just predators. Squirrels need calcium, mice, rats, everything.

1173
01:12:04.020 --> 01:12:07.359
They eat bone. That's why you don't find bone. And

1174
01:12:07.899 --> 01:12:10.100
you can ask the same question, well, have you ever seen,

1175
01:12:10.430 --> 01:12:12.069
I've been in the woods my whole life and I

1176
01:12:12.109 --> 01:12:13.670
never come across a bear skeleton.

1177
01:12:15.350 --> 01:12:15.829
Exactly.

1178
01:12:16.250 --> 01:12:17.350
Yeah, we're on the same page.

1179
01:12:17.909 --> 01:12:20.970
Washington State had the biggest population of black bear in

1180
01:12:20.989 --> 01:12:24.880
the lower 48, so I've never come across a bear skeleton.

1181
01:12:24.899 --> 01:12:33.039
Man, it's the right explanation of why we don't find stuff, though.

1182
01:12:33.539 --> 01:12:35.189
Yeah, you're 100% accurate, so.

1183
01:12:36.060 --> 01:12:38.020
Dude, I hope you can hang out a little bit,

1184
01:12:38.039 --> 01:12:40.060
but thank you so much for coming up and chatting

1185
01:12:40.100 --> 01:12:40.479
for a bit.

1186
01:12:41.060 --> 01:12:43.000
I'm on a new adventure. I'm in the Mark Twain

1187
01:12:43.039 --> 01:12:44.439
wilderness in the Ozarks.

1188
01:12:44.520 --> 01:12:45.420
Oh my goodness.

1189
01:12:45.960 --> 01:12:47.220
I'm exploring these ones now.

1190
01:12:48.199 --> 01:12:52.739
Do you watch the Sasquatch Theory YouTube channel?

1191
01:12:53.739 --> 01:12:57.789
I have not. I'm just now getting back on the

1192
01:12:57.850 --> 01:13:02.029
internet and doing stuff. I'm mostly out in the woods.

1193
01:13:02.510 --> 01:13:06.090
I've had some strange things here, but I'm not sure yet.

1194
01:13:06.109 --> 01:13:07.689
I gotta do more.

1195
01:13:08.789 --> 01:13:12.829
Um, that's probably the best resource for figuring out all

1196
01:13:12.850 --> 01:13:14.949
the Ozark, uh, Bigfoot activity.

1197
01:13:15.029 --> 01:13:17.229
That channel is really good. I'd recommend checking it out.

1198
01:13:17.350 --> 01:13:18.979
So I will.

1199
01:13:19.109 --> 01:13:20.489
Good talking to you.

1200
01:13:20.520 --> 01:13:21.060
Yeah. You too.

1201
01:13:21.079 --> 01:13:21.659
Have a good one, dude.

1202
01:13:22.420 --> 01:13:24.680
Before we wrap this episode, I want to say something

1203
01:13:24.760 --> 01:13:28.000
directly to a very specific group of listeners. If you're

1204
01:13:28.020 --> 01:13:31.760
in the military, any branch or forces, and if you've

1205
01:13:31.779 --> 01:13:34.649
seen something that no one can explain, or if you're

1206
01:13:34.670 --> 01:13:37.909
a national park ranger or forestry worker who's been told

1207
01:13:37.930 --> 01:13:41.369
to stay quiet, if you're a pilot who's seen something

1208
01:13:41.449 --> 01:13:45.060
strange down on the ground, or if you're with the FBI,

1209
01:13:45.180 --> 01:13:48.720
a federal agency, or working intelligence, and you stumbled upon

1210
01:13:48.800 --> 01:13:51.479
something you're not allowed to talk about, and if you're

1211
01:13:51.500 --> 01:13:55.100
a firefighter, paramedic, or search and rescue responder who's heard

1212
01:13:55.159 --> 01:13:58.680
screams or found tracks that didn't make sense, if you're

1213
01:13:58.699 --> 01:14:02.470
in the logging industry, on a remote oil field, or

1214
01:14:02.479 --> 01:14:05.850
a trucker with government contracts, and you've had something happen

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01:14:06.569 --> 01:14:09.689
that you've never told a soul, and if you're a biologist,

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a wildlife specialist, or a field researcher under contract who

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has found evidence you're not allowed to report, if you're

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a pastor, a missionary, or someone on a spiritual retreat,

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and you saw something that shook your faith, or if

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you work in the shadows, CIA, NSA, or anything with clearance,

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and you've seen what the public hasn't, then I want

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to talk to you. Even if it's anonymous, you can

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reach me at bigfootsociety at gmail.com. The world needs to

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hear what you've been forced to carry alone, and you're

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not alone.

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You've got the story. We've got the mic. See you

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in the woods.

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Thank you for listening to this episode of the Bigfoot

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Society podcast. Every encounter we share reminds us that the

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world is bigger and stranger than we think. and that

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the truth is often hiding just beyond the tree line.

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If you enjoyed this episode, please be sure to subscribe

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to the channel on YouTube, hit the bell so you

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don't miss the next episode, and share this with a

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friend who's into mysteries, monsters, or the unexplained. And if

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you're listening to us on Spotify or Apple Podcast, please

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follow the show there and leave us a five-star positive review,

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because all that helps more people discover the show. And remember,

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if you or someone you know has had a Bigfoot sighting, please,

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I'd love to hear from you. So email me at

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bigfootsociety at gmail.com and let's start the conversation. If you

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haven't gotten a chance yet, check out our membership community

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over at www.bigfootsocietypodcast.com. And that's where you can hear tomorrow's

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episode today early and ad-free and members-only episodes every week. Also,

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it's a place to connect with other people that are

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into the Bigfoot subject as much as you are. Thanks

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again for following along with the Bigfoot Society. Until next time,

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keep your eyes open, trust your gut, and never stop

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asking what else might be out there.

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And see you in the woods.