Oct. 27, 2024

Horrifying Alaska Bigfoot Encounters with Fred Roehl (Archives)

Join Jeremiah Byron as he interviews Fred Roehl, an Alaskan native with firsthand experiences of eerie Bigfoot encounters in remote Alaskan villages. Fred shares spine-chilling stories from childhood in Dillingham to terrifying family boating trips in...

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Season 1

Join Jeremiah Byron as he interviews Fred Roehl, an Alaskan native with firsthand experiences of eerie Bigfoot encounters in remote Alaskan villages. Fred shares spine-chilling stories from childhood in Dillingham to terrifying family boating trips in Nushegak Bay and the Wood River Mountains. Discover harrowing moments as creatures scream, hurl rocks, and challenge survival in the wilderness. Stories include federal investigator sightings, peculiar baby cries, and near-hypnotic encounters. Fred also discusses cultural preservation efforts and offers an interactive map for curious viewers. Tune in for gripping accounts that will leave you questioning the wild mysteries of Alaska.Resources:

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BIGFA Society, We've got the privilege of talking to mister

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Fred Roll tonight. If Fred, this is a going to

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be a fun interview. I've never had an individual be

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requested so many times for me to get them on

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the podcast, literally probably three to four times a day.

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In the comments, I get someone saying, you need to

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have Fred from Alaska. You need to have Fred from

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Subarctic Alaska Sasquatch Channel come on and talk about Alaska

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hairy Man. So I'm just so happy to finally get

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you on, Fred. How are you doing tonight?

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I'm doing great. Thanks for having me.

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Oh fantastic.

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And just to give there may be some listeners that

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you don't know about you yet, but if you're not

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following and subscribe to Subarctic Alaska's Sasquatch channel on YouTube,

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you really need to make sure that you do right

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after this. It's pretty cool because you're reporting you're recording

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Alaskan hairy Man encounters your first Nations Alaska native and

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your tribal council member from Dillingham, Alaska, which is just

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awesome that you have that connection. You can really be

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connected to the stories that you are recording and reporting.

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So it's just it's awesome. Fred, And remind me that

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the area that you are based out of is it Dillingham, then.

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I'm from there. I'm from Bristol Bay. I currently live

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in Wasstolla, Alaska. There's no job opportunities in Bristol Bay

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unless it's seasonal because a lot of the good jobs there,

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whether it be hospital or otherwise, are already taken. So

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it's just not a very financially viable place to live.

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Year around, gotcha.

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Yeah, And from what I've gathered from other interviews, it

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can be a pretty hostile environment to live in Alaska.

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But it is a beautiful environment, but it's also a

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very it can be a very unforgiving. You don't get

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too many chances up there.

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Yeah, Like I tell people all the time, Alaska don't care.

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It really don't. It's irrelevant what you're prepared for. You

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never know what you're going to get up here.

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It's always different, absolutely, you know, I'd be curious, Fred,

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what was it that first brought you into being so

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interested and involved with recording and reporting these encounters. Do

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you remember a time in your life when you were

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first introduced to this concept of the Alaskan Hairyman?

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Oh, geez. I was a little kid my auntie.

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When we were young, we always had fish camp, hunting camp,

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and so on in the village. And when we were

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really young, we were too young to participate in pulling

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and hauling nets and picking fish. So one of our

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aunties would watch us during those months.

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My aunt Lucy, she was one of the most boisterous

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and outspoken people when it came to watching out for

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the hairyman, because it wasn't just mythological folklore. It was

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a fact of life, just no different than beware of

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a moonset end of the driveway, it may stop you

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to death type of thing. So she would always warn

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us about, you know, don't follow strange whistles into the woods,

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don't go into the woods alone, don't turn your back

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on the woods, don't be out after dark. The harry

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man will get you, you know. And as a kid

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hearing these things, you know, over and over, you know.

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Being a little kid, I thought I was savvy and

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I thought they were just trying to keep us from

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having fun. And so in nineteen eighty three, I remember

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it clearly. I snuck away from the group that was

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in the front yard of my grandma's house. Her property

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was right at the end of the runway next to

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the Dillingham Airport at the time, by squad Creek side,

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and I snuck away.

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From the group because I wanted to work on my

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tree fort.

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And so I'm approximately about one hundred and twenty yards

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away from my grandma's house on this little trail and

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it was open, but about seventy yards in front of

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me there was a big bunch of willows and they're

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about ten twelve foot tall roughly, and I had my

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path I had to take through those willows to get

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to where I was building my tree fort, and I

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was about seventy yards from it, and I was staring

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at my feet at the time, I remember at Claire's Day,

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and something just told me look up. And when I

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looked up, I saw this big shadow in the willows,

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and I immediately my uncle Leo was like six to two,

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so I thought it was him, that person. I thought,

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oh crap, I'm gonna be in trouble. And it wasn't

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my uncle Leo. This thing screened at me the most

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blood curdling, just scary thing I'd dealt with at that time,

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and I turned around and ran back.

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Of course, I got in trouble for it and whatnot.

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And then a little bit later that season, in the fall,

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we went up the Michigan River on a thirty two

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foot ross and fishing boat and we used that our

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base camp for moose hunting at the end of fishing season,

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because my family was deeply involved in commercial salmon fishing,

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and so we would use that big boat as our

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base camp. We would anchor out in the river and

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use a small skip to go and get our moose

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and whatnot. And we had this a frame built in

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the back of it on the stern side to where

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we had a tarp over it and we could hang

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our moose meat and it wouldn't get rained on and

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it could hang and all that kind of stuff. Right,

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So we were on our way back from hunting camp basically,

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and there was a handful of us younger cousins, a

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few older cousins that were.

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In their mid to late teens, and.

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Two of my uncles and my dad, and we got

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stuck on a gravel bar just that black bluff by

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Angel Bay, which is the tidal area of the Nushi

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get going in the Nushigak Bay from the river, and

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it's right where the fresh water meets the ocean water,

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and we were stuck. There was no way we're getting

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up until the tide came in. And so one of

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my older cousins. After a little while, the adults were

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stressing that they you know, they didn't want the boat

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to tip over and then potentially you know, take on

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water when the tide comes in. So they were working

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things out, you know, how to stabilize the boat and

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all this.

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So I didn't chip or whatever.

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But one of my older cousins was like, let me

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get the younger kids out of your hair. I'll take

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them sport fishing, you know, with rod and reel in

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the skiff and you know, get them out of your hair. Basically,

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So we all got our fishing poles into the skiff

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and we're backing away from the boat and there was

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a lot of commotion because you got the outboard running.

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You got the adults on the boat still talking, and

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we was kids. We were just concerned about fishing, you know,

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we're all excited or whatever. And there was this screaming

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going on, but we weren't putting two and two together.

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And then we were.

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Hearing the splashing going on, and my dad uncles were

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sitting there screaming, waving us back. We came back to

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the stern of the boat and immediately they were taking

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us kids off as quickly as possible.

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And when we all got on deck and we were

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going into the.

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Basically the cabin of the boat where the you know,

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the wheelhouse is, the.

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Screaming was really really loud.

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And we noticed because one of our other cousins was

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putting up to the Black Bluff, which was about seventy

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yards away and about sixty five feet above us roughly,

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and there was this so let up there, a harry man,

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and he was screaming and started throwing rocks, and you know,

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everyone they were concerned, of course, because it's throwing rocks,

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but none of the rocks were hitting the boat yet,

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and then one hit broke through the tarp and hit

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a piece of mooseh pine quarter that was hanging there

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so hard it snapped off with its line and fell

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to the deck, and immediately they rushed us downstairs. You know,

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there's a bunch of gun fire going on, and we'd

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hear screaming, rocks thrown, and you know, another volley of fired.

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That was basically where the reality of what we were

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doing with really sunk in as far as the dangers,

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because seeing something at a distance versus seeing its aggression

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are you know, the potential of that aggression, you know,

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play out in front of you is really really eye opening.

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But we ended up, you know, sequestered down even lower

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in the sleeping quarters, which wasn't very big. And I

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couldn't tell you how long the screaming and the gunshots

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went on, but it went on for a while because

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they would shoot it, it would fall down, it would

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get right back up and throw more rocks from what

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I heard later, and eventually we fell asleep down you know,

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down underneath there.

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And when we woke back up, we were at the

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you know, don't.

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Have boat harbor, and you know, my uncle's my dad

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would tell my mom and aunties, you know, everything that

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happened and whatnot. But that was some of the most

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intense portions of my childhood. There was other sightings, you know,

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very picking and whatnot, and.

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Something a lot of people don't realize. I was talking

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to someone from the village earlier.

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Today, our heritage is so steeped in these supposed and

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mythological folk flord whatever you want to call it, but

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it's day to day life and for a lot of

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villagers even to this day. And it's hard to convey

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that sometimes because a lot of people they're raised, you know,

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boy scouts, and you know, they get out to national

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parks to get their fill.

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Of getting into the woods and whatnot.

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And up here you step outside, you know, we don't

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have any park boundaries that animals abide by. I get moose,

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bare fox all that they come through my yard, you

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know what I mean. So it's a different dynamic up here.

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It's totally different. And when it comes to like things

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like the hairy Man, little people, uh, you know, acousta

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ka whatever you want.

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To call the otter Man. There's moose Man that.

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There's a bunch of different stories if you want to

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call it that, but they're all based in reality.

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And I think a lot.

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Of people just chalk that up to Oh, that's just

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mythological talk. That's just you know, keep kids in lind

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and this and that, And it's not the case because

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I know many villagers that could go on for days

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about Harryman experiences they've had, or their relatives have.

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Had, or you know, so on and so forth.

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So it's it's really it's basically day to day life

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for a lot of people in the village.

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That story you just told me, it sounded like, so,

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did they actually hit the hairy man? Would their with

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their shots?

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Do you think, oh, yeah, one d percent?

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According to what I was told later, it just kept

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getting back up and throwing more rocks. We come from

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a long line of subsistence hunters. We when we're when

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we're shooting, it's not braggadocia. We shoot to kill and

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make it quick. It's you know, we're not out there

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to take twenty shots on an animal just to wound it.

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We're from the mindset of one shot, one kill. My

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dad's a Vietnam Vet. My uncles were non bets. They

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they're well versed when it comes to shooting. And the

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distance that thing was wasn't all that far.

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Wow, the stories that you've heard over the years. Has

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anyone actually been able to successfully shoot one so that

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it will be you know, they've got a specimen or

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or is it a thing where you'll try to shoot

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it and every time it just keeps getting back up.

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Well, no, I've I shared a story that Clinkett Elder

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shared with me.

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His name was Thomas.

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He's since passed, but he happened to have dispatch we'll

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call it, three of them over the course of a

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decade one one time.

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The first time.

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Was in the tongas Uh they were there for a

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logging job and what have you. The second time was

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up the Copper River Valley, and the third time was

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between Selwick and Calstag where they where he dispatched one

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and what he related to me, and this was just

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about a year ago that he had shared this with

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me for a little over a year. It was a

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headshot through the ear or in the eye, that was

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the only way to get them to stay down and

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basically die. The first one they buried, the second one

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they burned, and the third one he claimed that he

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had cut it up and disposed of its body parts,

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some of it in the cave and its torso back

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at the end of the valley. So there's that. Now,

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this this gentleman.

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Was in his nineties.

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He had nothing to gain, you know by sharing that.

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He was mainly just trying to educate me because I

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told him my experience and how my shots were ineffective.

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And that's when he stopped me and was like, you

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got to shoot him in the soft tissue net eyes geared,

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you know, something like that in order to get them

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to basically stop.

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We'll be back with more big Foot society after these

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words from our sponsors. That is extreme. Wow, that's extremely

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detailed in ways I've never heard before on that show.

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And you said Clinkett elder and that reminds me. Yeah,

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I've talked to a gentleman before. It was that close

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to Prince of Wales.

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Island, not horribly far from it.

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I think that the Clinkett Elders were involved with that

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area too, from what I remember. But the southeast Alaska

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area is very intense with I believe there's they say

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there's tribes of four toad sasquatch that are seen down there.

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Is that anything that you've run into before in any

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stories that you've gathered.

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Yeah, I've heard those accounts. Yeah, I've heard those accounts.

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I talked to natives from all across the state, and

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you know, you get accounts of three toes, four toes,

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five and even six toes. But typically when you hear

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of the six toe prints, they're like twenty four inches

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long and a good foot why So, to me, that's

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more along the lines of what we call a mountain giant.

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And there's accounts of those as well. And you still

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hear accounts from up near Ruby, up on the Yukon,

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where villagers will hear the trumpeting of like elephants and

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they claim to have seen mammoth in recent history, within

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the last decade. That is something I would love to

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explore her. To see a wooly mammoth live and in person, just.

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Out in the middle of nowhere, that would be an

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experience that's incredible. So you've actually you've talked to people

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that have personally encountered like the sounds of willly mammoths

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you're saying.

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Or.

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Oh yeah, yeah, villagers from Ruby.

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And Galina right on the Yukon River within fifteen miles

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of the river, is what I was told.

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Man, that's wild.

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I mean, you never know the stories you hear out

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of the Yukon, and I've heard other things as well,

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and just that area is so remote, so wild, man,

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it's crazy. And you'd mentioned mountain giants as well. Man,

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that's a new one. I hadn't heard of either.

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Right, there was a guy he was spotting for Mooster Carabo.

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I forget what it was, but he said he had,

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you know, he had one of those big old I

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forget the power on it, but it was one of

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those huge spotting scopes where.

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You can easily see it mile away, you know what

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I mean.

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And he was spotting and he noticed this big grayish

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green thing moving and it looked like it was trees

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on its back. And he said it was about thirty

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foot tall and it had like a maine going down

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its back.

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It was grayish green.

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Had hair down its forearms and kind of cuffed around

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its wrist and was a little longer around the wrist.

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The hair was.

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He said, the back kind of reminded him of a

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snapping turtle, you know, with the splines on the back

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or whatever.

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Sure, and he said it.

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Kind of looked like that, but it was more like

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a bristly type of hair down the back. It had

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tusks from the lower jaw protruding up next to the nostrils.

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And he said it just moved nonchalant, and he was

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just an all watching this thing from roughly a mile away,

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and he heard a bush plane in the distance, and

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he looked just frobbing out where the plane was, and

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he spotted the plane. Then he looks back and this thing.

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As he looked back, he saw just the tail into

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this thing, crunching down to the ground and it blended

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in her with the scenery. So when this thing was moving,

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it heard the plane as well, and just kind of

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laid low, stayed still, and you wouldn't even see it.

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That's incredible, man.

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I wonder if anyone has ever captured actual like video

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evidence or anything of creatures like that. Is That's a

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new subject for me. Man.

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Well, I've personally seen footage of little people. I've personally

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seen way better footage in four K resolution of a sasquatch.

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There's a homestead down on the peninsula and these people

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contacted me about a year ago. They had started getting

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ghats because you know, they want it goes to keep

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the land clear, you know, the undergrowth kind of you know,

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to a minimum, and they had a couple of small

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pins and they had just basically started their homestead on

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about five to six acres roughly, and one of their

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goats came up missing one day, and so the husband

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went out kind of looked around, saw somewhere tracks thought

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it was a double bear in freshion, you know, and so, okay,

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it's a bear. So he kind of went outside of

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the property scouting around. Couldn't really find anything, no blood trail,

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no sign of this missing goat.

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Comes back.

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That evening he saw a dark shadow in the trees

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and just fired around up into the trees to scare

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whatever this large looming thing was. He assumed it was

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a bear on his hind feet. Well, the thing disappeared,

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no harm, no foul kind of thought process. And the

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next morning, when they were drinking coffee at their table,

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they heard a loud just this monstrous scream that entered

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in the high pitch and this thing, it took their

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second goat, ripped it in half, and threw both halves

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at the cabin, one after another. And that got their

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attention because they heard the scream, they saw what was

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left of the goat smacked up against their cabin, and

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so once it got a little lighter outside, he went

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out to investigate.

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Nothing was going on. It was dead quiet.

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He got rid of the remains of the goat and

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kind of looked for more sign of what the hell

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this was. They had called the authorities at that point.

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The authorities told them, a bears are around, you know,

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keep your goats close, put up electrical fence, you know,

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just basically shine them on. Wasn't listening to the screen

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part of it. They just just blowed off. And later

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on that day he was out in their front yard

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with his daughter. And this is rustic. It was freshly cleared,

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so it's not like they had a manicured lawn or anything.

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But they did have a fence up.

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It was about forty feet from their front window where

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the fence started, and that was basically their front lawn.

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And he was out there with his daughter and they

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heard a scream and so he stood still, put his

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daughter behind him, and on video, the video portion I

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saw was the wife recording from inside from a little

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sony handicam and this sasquatch walked between that fence and

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this guy who had his daughter behind him, and this

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thing was looking at him with such disdain and like hatred,

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like he wanted to end him, but for some reason

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he couldn't.

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Kind of look, and you can.

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See clearly on video this thing just walked on by,

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stepped over the fence and went off into the trees.

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I tried for months to get them to release that

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footage anonymously.

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I told him I'd leave their.

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Names out, i'd blair faces, i would do whatever I

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had to do to make them at ease to release

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this footage.

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And they wouldn't budge.

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And you know, I wasn't gonna put on a bunch

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of high pressure tactics.

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That was their footage, it was their thing. I just

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left it at that, But.

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I still wish I could get my hands on that footage,

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because you know, the Patterson Gimlin footage is great, but

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this is on a different level of clarity.

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You could see the muscle moment clearly.

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You can damn their count individual hairs on this thing,

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and its face was very defar and very clear. It

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was just amazing footage. And unfortunately, you know, they they

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want no part of it. They want not even anonymously.

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They did they want to share. They were just asking

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my advice on how to keep them away from their properties,

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and that's as far as they wanted to take it.

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Unfortunately, that is a shame.

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But you do have to respect, you know, as they

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are the owners of the footage. But it sounds like

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footage like that could could totally, you know, to a

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lot of people, could prove the existence of the creature.

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I would imagine, I mean, it would probably make a

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few people change their mind.

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Was yeah, and it's intense.

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I saw it with my own eyes in their cabin,

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in the same living room they filmed it from, and

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that I tried.

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To you know, I was trying to be.

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As you know, unintrusive as possible, but firm and trying

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to express to them, Look, a lot of people can

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gain from this, not financially, but just knowledge wise on

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the realities of what you're dealing with. You know, it

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could lead to more help. Because the best I could

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tell you is, you know, maybe put up some high

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our floodlights and you know, staying at night. You know,

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that's that's the best advice I could give, you know,

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outside about right shooting the thing.

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And they wanted no part of that either.

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I offered to come in with a team of guys

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and take.

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A look around. They wanted no part of that.

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You know, they were basically hoping that I had the

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silver bullets, so to speak, for their situation and you know,

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would make it all go away.

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But unfortunately I don't have that.

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You know, can you describe?

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You know, when you looked at that video and you

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saw that footage, what did you see in the face

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of the creature.

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It looked more Neanderthal than eight, very similar to what

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I saw in six, just not quite as big. This

466
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thing was about ten foot tall. I would say the

467
00:26:33.839 --> 00:26:39.359
shoulders shoulder with just by simple just looking at the

468
00:26:39.400 --> 00:26:42.160
footage and the husband's height, I would say the shoulders

469
00:26:42.160 --> 00:26:45.400
are about four four and a half foot wide. Arms

470
00:26:45.480 --> 00:26:49.000
hung down just you know, just above the knee. The

471
00:26:49.039 --> 00:26:54.000
forearm was longer than the upper arm. The hands were huge.

472
00:26:54.720 --> 00:26:59.279
The jaw was really big, wide and pronounced. You could

473
00:26:59.319 --> 00:27:03.680
tell that, uh its teeth if it were showing them,

474
00:27:04.559 --> 00:27:05.400
would it.

475
00:27:05.440 --> 00:27:07.160
Protruded out further than the nose?

476
00:27:08.200 --> 00:27:12.319
Ash, gray colored skin, pitch black eyes, real wrinkly faced.

477
00:27:13.400 --> 00:27:17.599
You could tell under the hair with the movement. The

478
00:27:17.720 --> 00:27:22.640
muscle definition was like these bodybuilders.

479
00:27:21.799 --> 00:27:24.319
You see that are just you can see.

480
00:27:24.039 --> 00:27:27.440
Every sinew in every fiber of muscle under their skin.

481
00:27:27.640 --> 00:27:30.519
It was very similar to that, just coated in this hair.

482
00:27:31.359 --> 00:27:34.000
It was about four four and a half inches long

483
00:27:34.039 --> 00:27:36.400
for the most part, with the upper part of the

484
00:27:36.440 --> 00:27:39.160
head had a little bit of longer hair, so it

485
00:27:39.200 --> 00:27:42.480
would it wouldn't look like half Rocker style on the

486
00:27:42.559 --> 00:27:45.400
hair on the on the head, but then it you know,

487
00:27:45.440 --> 00:27:47.200
it all went down to a shorter leight.

488
00:27:47.359 --> 00:27:48.440
On the rest of its body.

489
00:27:50.440 --> 00:27:53.279
The genitalia was basically covered by hair.

490
00:27:54.279 --> 00:27:55.000
You couldn't eat.

491
00:27:55.039 --> 00:27:56.960
You could tell it was a big male, but it

492
00:27:57.000 --> 00:27:59.440
wasn't like its junk was hanging or anything like that.

493
00:27:59.720 --> 00:28:01.799
It was just a lot of hair in that area.

494
00:28:03.119 --> 00:28:05.720
The upper part of the leg looked longer than the

495
00:28:05.759 --> 00:28:09.519
lower part, and you could easily see in the footage

496
00:28:09.519 --> 00:28:12.400
when it was stepping, because I got the opportunity to

497
00:28:12.440 --> 00:28:15.319
watch it about four or five different times. You could

498
00:28:15.440 --> 00:28:19.319
see the foot almost looked like it was floppy because

499
00:28:19.319 --> 00:28:20.640
of that mid torstal break.

500
00:28:20.720 --> 00:28:21.720
The way it was walking.

501
00:28:23.559 --> 00:28:28.400
Just an anthropologist would would kill their first born to

502
00:28:28.519 --> 00:28:33.559
have this footage to study. It was it's great, and

503
00:28:33.599 --> 00:28:35.920
I told them if they weren't going to share it.

504
00:28:36.119 --> 00:28:37.720
I would I would destroy it.

505
00:28:39.119 --> 00:28:43.079
Just what I told them because I would never you know,

506
00:28:43.200 --> 00:28:46.079
give away their name or their exact location. I just

507
00:28:46.079 --> 00:28:49.279
wouldn't betray them like that. But you know, I tried

508
00:28:49.279 --> 00:28:51.480
to reach out to them just a few months ago

509
00:28:51.519 --> 00:28:54.000
to see how they were doing, but I didn't get

510
00:28:54.000 --> 00:28:57.559
a response. You know, I think for a lot of people,

511
00:28:58.480 --> 00:29:01.960
once they get some kind of information that they're not crazy,

512
00:29:03.279 --> 00:29:05.160
they want nothing more to do with it.

513
00:29:07.720 --> 00:29:08.440
I agree with you.

514
00:29:08.599 --> 00:29:11.400
That lines up with you know, people I've talked to

515
00:29:11.559 --> 00:29:15.039
is a lot of times they just want to share

516
00:29:15.640 --> 00:29:17.720
what they've experienced so they can go to sleep at

517
00:29:17.799 --> 00:29:19.839
night and feel like they're not crazy.

518
00:29:20.240 --> 00:29:21.240
I totally get it.

519
00:29:23.200 --> 00:29:23.359
Right.

520
00:29:23.799 --> 00:29:26.079
I mean, on my channel right now, I have one

521
00:29:26.200 --> 00:29:30.519
hundred and seventy two videos. If I was able to

522
00:29:30.640 --> 00:29:35.640
share every encounter shared with me that, you know, if

523
00:29:35.680 --> 00:29:38.599
they were open to it, even if they remained anonymous,

524
00:29:38.920 --> 00:29:41.799
I would have four or five hundred encounters on my channel.

525
00:29:42.400 --> 00:29:45.799
It's just a lot of people they want to talk

526
00:29:45.799 --> 00:29:48.519
to someone who good to judge them and get it

527
00:29:48.559 --> 00:29:50.599
off their chest. And it seems like a lot of them,

528
00:29:50.640 --> 00:29:52.559
once they get it off their chests.

529
00:29:53.359 --> 00:29:56.519
They can let it go, so to speak. They you know, for.

530
00:29:56.559 --> 00:30:00.880
Some people speaking it out loud, because a lot of

531
00:30:00.880 --> 00:30:03.039
the people I interview, I talked to them three, four

532
00:30:03.119 --> 00:30:05.759
or five times just so I get there and counterdown.

533
00:30:05.839 --> 00:30:08.359
So when I relay it in a video, I can

534
00:30:08.400 --> 00:30:09.680
give the finer details.

535
00:30:09.720 --> 00:30:10.640
I could walk them.

536
00:30:10.519 --> 00:30:13.200
You know, the viewer through it to where they feel

537
00:30:13.200 --> 00:30:15.440
like they're in that place at that time.

538
00:30:16.279 --> 00:30:20.960
And you know, talking to the people it helps me.

539
00:30:21.119 --> 00:30:23.000
For one, it's kind of like a form of therapy,

540
00:30:23.440 --> 00:30:28.559
but also it helps the listener to better understand, you know, terrain,

541
00:30:28.880 --> 00:30:31.519
time of day, circumstances, all that kind of thing.

542
00:30:32.240 --> 00:30:33.279
Versus if I was.

543
00:30:33.279 --> 00:30:36.720
Just like, let's say, reading an email verbatim, you know

544
00:30:36.720 --> 00:30:39.799
what I mean, because those finer details and nuances you're

545
00:30:39.839 --> 00:30:41.359
not going to pick up in an email.

546
00:30:41.839 --> 00:30:43.559
You get that from talking to them.

547
00:30:43.599 --> 00:30:46.359
The inflection and their voice when they're talking about their encounter,

548
00:30:46.920 --> 00:30:51.680
whether there was a comical moment or you know, outright dead,

549
00:30:51.680 --> 00:30:54.519
any type of feeling that they felt.

550
00:30:55.799 --> 00:30:58.640
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551
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552
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You know, there was a federal investigator. His name is

553
00:31:05.920 --> 00:31:08.680
Robert Johnson. He shared his name willingly.

554
00:31:10.039 --> 00:31:12.519
His videos Unknown Fear and Denale, right.

555
00:31:13.200 --> 00:31:16.119
So when I talked to him, he said, you can

556
00:31:16.200 --> 00:31:18.960
use my name because I didn't see anything. He was

557
00:31:19.000 --> 00:31:21.720
at the White Loose Lodge in Ealy, Alaska, just right

558
00:31:21.720 --> 00:31:25.759
there at d'naley. He was on a motorcycle trip of

559
00:31:25.920 --> 00:31:27.799
visiting his son or whatever. He ended up having to

560
00:31:27.839 --> 00:31:30.480
stay there because the heavy rain. But there was a

561
00:31:30.559 --> 00:31:34.799
banging on the back of that hotel that scared him. Now,

562
00:31:34.839 --> 00:31:38.680
this is an investigator anti terror into the sandbox, as

563
00:31:38.720 --> 00:31:42.799
he put it, you know, counter terrorism, well trained, been

564
00:31:42.839 --> 00:31:47.079
through the trenches with you know, combat bet basically, and

565
00:31:47.640 --> 00:31:50.480
this thumping, this banging on the back of this hotel

566
00:31:51.440 --> 00:31:54.720
scared him to his core. He said he didn't understand

567
00:31:54.759 --> 00:31:58.160
it because he didn't see anything, but just the presence

568
00:31:58.640 --> 00:32:03.079
of this thing and feeling the power behind.

569
00:32:02.759 --> 00:32:05.799
The banging on the wall. It's scared them.

570
00:32:06.400 --> 00:32:10.119
Uh. And to me, that speaks volumes. If if someone

571
00:32:10.200 --> 00:32:13.920
that's been through something like that can be scared to their.

572
00:32:13.839 --> 00:32:17.039
Core, like a little child who's been through.

573
00:32:16.839 --> 00:32:20.799
That, that that to me, it says a lot about

574
00:32:20.880 --> 00:32:24.119
the creature we're dealing with up here. It's not your

575
00:32:24.480 --> 00:32:27.960
forest friend. They're not here to help you with anything.

576
00:32:28.799 --> 00:32:32.799
A type of type of creature, you know, and that

577
00:32:32.799 --> 00:32:35.839
that's one of the driving forces on why I want

578
00:32:35.880 --> 00:32:38.160
to share a lots of experiences is because what we

579
00:32:38.279 --> 00:32:42.200
deal with up here is far removed from some of

580
00:32:42.240 --> 00:32:44.599
the encounters you may hear about down in the States.

581
00:32:44.920 --> 00:32:48.519
You know, it's a totally different environment. I think they're

582
00:32:48.519 --> 00:32:53.359
more aggressive because the seasons up here are so short.

583
00:32:54.119 --> 00:32:57.200
It's already in the fall, it's already been below freezing.

584
00:32:57.559 --> 00:33:01.720
You know, in the morning is already Because of that

585
00:33:01.880 --> 00:33:04.960
short cycle we have up here, I think they're a

586
00:33:05.039 --> 00:33:09.240
lot more vicious because of the limited resources that can

587
00:33:09.279 --> 00:33:11.960
be attained in that short amount of time. So you

588
00:33:12.039 --> 00:33:15.319
get a lot of encounters from moose hunters, caribou hunters,

589
00:33:15.400 --> 00:33:16.759
salmon fisherman.

590
00:33:17.079 --> 00:33:18.200
Berry pickers.

591
00:33:18.599 --> 00:33:22.640
You know, every resource people go out to attain up

592
00:33:22.640 --> 00:33:29.279
here is typically an encounterlocation, you know, our potential encounterlocation.

593
00:33:30.160 --> 00:33:33.440
I get accounts all the time from the villages like

594
00:33:33.480 --> 00:33:39.000
the ones outside of Bethel, Russian Mission Mountain village. You know,

595
00:33:39.079 --> 00:33:43.400
places like this where out burry picking. These things have

596
00:33:43.480 --> 00:33:46.440
been known to try to lure women away. You know,

597
00:33:46.640 --> 00:33:51.400
with this slow motion wave I've had a young lady

598
00:33:51.480 --> 00:33:53.960
in her early twenties share with me not too long ago,

599
00:33:54.279 --> 00:33:57.640
where they were just checking the conditions of the berries

600
00:33:57.640 --> 00:33:59.480
to see if they're almost right for picking her in

601
00:33:59.480 --> 00:34:03.559
her little and they're in the wide open, white open

602
00:34:03.640 --> 00:34:08.960
timesra nothing around. They get to this it was basically

603
00:34:09.039 --> 00:34:12.079
a horseshoe shaped trail. They get to the aphex of

604
00:34:12.119 --> 00:34:14.760
it roughly, and all of a sudden there's this hairy

605
00:34:14.840 --> 00:34:21.639
man about seventy ish feet away roughly. And initially she

606
00:34:21.880 --> 00:34:24.159
said she was almost in a trans like state, like

607
00:34:24.199 --> 00:34:27.599
she's felt peaceful with this thing waving at her and

608
00:34:27.679 --> 00:34:29.840
she's on a four wheeler with her little cousin. So

609
00:34:29.920 --> 00:34:33.440
she the trail we were on was well defined, you know,

610
00:34:33.480 --> 00:34:37.000
you got your your trenches from the tread tires of the.

611
00:34:36.960 --> 00:34:39.000
Many four wheelers that have been through there before.

612
00:34:39.559 --> 00:34:42.519
And she veered off and she bumped her knee getting

613
00:34:42.559 --> 00:34:44.880
off of that trail and had snapped her out of

614
00:34:44.880 --> 00:34:47.599
that trance, and she saw it for what it was

615
00:34:47.760 --> 00:34:50.639
and realized the danger and you know, get out all

616
00:34:50.719 --> 00:34:54.599
out of there. So you get accounts like that, like

617
00:34:54.960 --> 00:34:57.880
what are we really dealing with? It's something that can

618
00:34:58.719 --> 00:35:01.199
put you in a translate state, you know, especially the

619
00:35:01.280 --> 00:35:05.800
vulnerable women and children it's real creepy, man, you know,

620
00:35:05.840 --> 00:35:09.239
And I got no answer for it. It's just creepy stuff.

621
00:35:10.239 --> 00:35:14.559
Have you ever heard of people being lured by the

622
00:35:14.599 --> 00:35:18.719
sound of a baby crying in the woods?

623
00:35:18.840 --> 00:35:21.760
Oh yeah, yeah, I've heard the baby crying myself. You have,

624
00:35:23.679 --> 00:35:24.920
Oh yeah.

625
00:35:24.960 --> 00:35:31.280
My cousin Elizabeth Ostros now Elizabeth hook Back in nineteen

626
00:35:31.440 --> 00:35:34.599
sixty seven or sixty nine, one of the two. She

627
00:35:34.719 --> 00:35:37.679
lived down on Unalaska Island. No trees, it's a wind

628
00:35:37.760 --> 00:35:40.719
swept gots harbors, you know, it's just wind sweat.

629
00:35:40.760 --> 00:35:44.360
You may get some scrubbrush, but that's it. They had

630
00:35:44.360 --> 00:35:47.599
a neighbor, a young Native woman who had a child

631
00:35:47.639 --> 00:35:50.239
out of wedlock at the time with the fisherman.

632
00:35:50.320 --> 00:35:53.039
The fisherman went away and she was left with this baby,

633
00:35:53.119 --> 00:35:56.360
and so she would always ask for help from her

634
00:35:56.400 --> 00:36:00.480
neighbors and whatnot. But this baby's cry, everyone knew it

635
00:36:01.119 --> 00:36:03.960
because it was a callicky, young baby, and the mom

636
00:36:04.000 --> 00:36:04.599
didn't know what it.

637
00:36:04.639 --> 00:36:06.559
Was doing, you know, she was doing, and so she

638
00:36:06.599 --> 00:36:07.400
would ask for help.

639
00:36:08.119 --> 00:36:11.519
And it was going in the dust, getting dark, and

640
00:36:11.719 --> 00:36:14.239
they heard this baby crying outside.

641
00:36:14.400 --> 00:36:18.239
They knew the cry, and they recognized it. Well. They

642
00:36:18.280 --> 00:36:21.039
go outside her and another cousin to look to see

643
00:36:21.039 --> 00:36:21.360
what was.

644
00:36:21.360 --> 00:36:24.400
Going on with the baby crying, you know, making sure

645
00:36:24.440 --> 00:36:25.519
the baby didn't need help.

646
00:36:25.559 --> 00:36:26.920
And they get outside, they go.

647
00:36:26.880 --> 00:36:30.519
Around, they don't see anything, and they're going back into

648
00:36:30.519 --> 00:36:33.960
their little apartment and right in front of the bay

649
00:36:34.000 --> 00:36:36.960
window ten feet away looking at him as this hairyman

650
00:36:37.559 --> 00:36:42.679
imitating that baby cry to a tea to perfection it,

651
00:36:43.400 --> 00:36:46.800
she said that it sounded identical to the baby cry.

652
00:36:47.000 --> 00:36:50.760
Now to me, that's a level of cunning that is

653
00:36:51.079 --> 00:36:55.519
just unreal because they're literally using a woman's natural instinct

654
00:36:55.639 --> 00:36:56.519
against them.

655
00:36:57.079 --> 00:37:00.239
They're using that baby cry to lure them out. Man.

656
00:37:00.280 --> 00:37:04.440
That is some cunning stuff, man, just just cunning.

657
00:37:05.440 --> 00:37:11.199
And to go ahead, no, I just it just boggles

658
00:37:11.239 --> 00:37:14.360
my mind, you know. And that's why.

659
00:37:14.239 --> 00:37:18.360
We're raised up here. Uh, you know, there's nothing good

660
00:37:18.360 --> 00:37:22.320
that comes. We were never raised to follow them, We

661
00:37:22.320 --> 00:37:25.440
were never raised to track them. So when I got

662
00:37:25.519 --> 00:37:28.079
into this YouTube thing and I started going to look around,

663
00:37:28.800 --> 00:37:30.639
it was hard for me to get into it because

664
00:37:30.719 --> 00:37:32.800
culturally and the way I was raised for some of

665
00:37:32.840 --> 00:37:34.079
the years, we didn't follow.

666
00:37:34.320 --> 00:37:36.679
We didn't we weren't out.

667
00:37:36.559 --> 00:37:39.199
To you know, take photos of tracks, because we saw

668
00:37:39.239 --> 00:37:40.719
them often enough.

669
00:37:40.880 --> 00:37:42.000
You know, we weren't out.

670
00:37:41.880 --> 00:37:44.679
To capture video footage because we've seen them off and

671
00:37:45.159 --> 00:37:48.119
it wasn't it wasn't on our to do list, it

672
00:37:48.199 --> 00:37:49.039
wasn't a big deal.

673
00:37:49.599 --> 00:37:51.320
It was just what it was, you know.

674
00:37:51.480 --> 00:37:55.039
So it's been kind of a strange transition doing what

675
00:37:55.079 --> 00:37:59.920
I'm doing now. Uh, It's it's just different because culture

676
00:38:00.960 --> 00:38:03.960
the way I was raised. It's a night and day difference,

677
00:38:04.239 --> 00:38:06.559
because I still talk to elders that are like, you know,

678
00:38:06.599 --> 00:38:07.559
they'll tell me, you know.

679
00:38:07.559 --> 00:38:09.119
Better than to go look for them.

680
00:38:09.119 --> 00:38:12.519
You know, nothing good will come of it, and you know,

681
00:38:12.679 --> 00:38:16.119
I hate their warnings, but yet I feel it's important.

682
00:38:16.440 --> 00:38:19.119
I feel it's a public safety issue. You know, people

683
00:38:19.199 --> 00:38:19.800
go out there.

684
00:38:20.519 --> 00:38:20.760
You know.

685
00:38:20.880 --> 00:38:23.400
I talk to hunters man that have been going to

686
00:38:23.440 --> 00:38:27.039
the same spot for forty plus years, never had an issue,

687
00:38:27.440 --> 00:38:31.280
never heard nothing crazy, never seen nothing crazy, but one

688
00:38:31.360 --> 00:38:34.239
twenty minute experience, and they will never go.

689
00:38:34.320 --> 00:38:35.039
Back there again.

690
00:38:35.519 --> 00:38:37.880
They've given up hunting, they won't even go out in

691
00:38:37.960 --> 00:38:43.360
the woods because it's just one random encounter and that's

692
00:38:43.400 --> 00:38:46.000
all it takes. And that's another thing that boggles my

693
00:38:46.039 --> 00:38:49.119
mind is the randomness. You can have a group of

694
00:38:49.239 --> 00:38:51.599
one hundred guys go to the same spot every year

695
00:38:51.639 --> 00:38:53.480
for their caribou, none of them.

696
00:38:53.480 --> 00:38:56.360
Have an issue. Then one year one of them will

697
00:38:56.400 --> 00:38:57.280
have an issue.

698
00:38:57.519 --> 00:39:00.360
If Terrible gets taken, they have a siding or whatever,

699
00:39:00.480 --> 00:39:03.000
and it's done for that, they no longer go home.

700
00:39:04.239 --> 00:39:06.199
You know, it's just so random in nature.

701
00:39:09.000 --> 00:39:11.159
It's Yeah, I want to address something really quick. If

702
00:39:11.239 --> 00:39:15.280
listeners heard me have like an interesting reaction a little

703
00:39:15.280 --> 00:39:20.800
bit ago, I just was having such just that the

704
00:39:22.119 --> 00:39:24.400
picture I had in my mind of that the hairy

705
00:39:24.480 --> 00:39:27.920
man imitating the baby cry and the persons seeing that

706
00:39:27.960 --> 00:39:31.119
actually happen. That's just that's something that man, even if

707
00:39:31.159 --> 00:39:34.519
you're imagining it that I can't imagine actually seeing that

708
00:39:34.559 --> 00:39:38.920
in person. That's not a good thing to see.

709
00:39:40.920 --> 00:39:41.880
No, not at all.

710
00:39:42.599 --> 00:39:46.440
She's in her late eighties now, and she still she

711
00:39:46.559 --> 00:39:49.800
still gets an expression on her face of almost like

712
00:39:49.880 --> 00:39:52.480
shell shock about it, you know, And that happened back

713
00:39:52.559 --> 00:39:55.039
in sixty nine, you know what I mean?

714
00:39:55.159 --> 00:39:56.760
Like these?

715
00:39:57.679 --> 00:40:01.840
Okay, With my channel, I share people's encounters, and the

716
00:40:02.159 --> 00:40:05.920
way I do it is the way I was raised.

717
00:40:05.960 --> 00:40:08.840
We have an oral history, an oral tradition. We don't

718
00:40:08.880 --> 00:40:12.400
write things down. We just pass it down, you know, verbally,

719
00:40:12.960 --> 00:40:16.440
and so That's why I treat the encounters. If anyone

720
00:40:16.480 --> 00:40:18.679
who watches my channel, they know what I'm talking about,

721
00:40:18.760 --> 00:40:22.400
I try to bring the listener into that moment.

722
00:40:22.639 --> 00:40:25.239
And that's what our elders did with us.

723
00:40:25.320 --> 00:40:27.840
You know, whether it be oh, caribou hunting, we were

724
00:40:27.920 --> 00:40:30.239
up here, we took the third slew on the right,

725
00:40:30.440 --> 00:40:33.000
and you go up past the very patches, you get

726
00:40:33.000 --> 00:40:35.480
into the scrib rush and you know you'll find the

727
00:40:35.559 --> 00:40:38.400
caribou back over there. You know, the level of detail

728
00:40:38.599 --> 00:40:42.719
we were raised with when sharing information with each other

729
00:40:44.000 --> 00:40:46.880
was it wasn't too oh I'm going to share all

730
00:40:46.920 --> 00:40:50.119
the details. It was life and death, you know what

731
00:40:50.119 --> 00:40:53.119
I mean. It had to be accurate information. And that's

732
00:40:53.159 --> 00:40:57.719
why I get upset with those who claim all history

733
00:40:57.920 --> 00:41:03.039
is just that it's it's fanciful, it's folklore, it's mythology,

734
00:41:03.119 --> 00:41:05.079
you know that kind of that kind of crap, that

735
00:41:05.079 --> 00:41:10.719
that's so inaccurate. Our or tradition and our oral history

736
00:41:11.199 --> 00:41:14.960
allowed us to live this long. I mean, Cambridge was

737
00:41:14.960 --> 00:41:19.159
what built in sixteen ninety two, Harvard, Okay, the first

738
00:41:19.199 --> 00:41:22.519
brick and mortar that everyone talks, you know, their education from. Well,

739
00:41:22.920 --> 00:41:26.199
our oral history goes back to millennia past that, you know.

740
00:41:26.320 --> 00:41:30.679
Even further so, you know, when the educated get this

741
00:41:30.840 --> 00:41:33.360
idea that well, because they learned something in a book,

742
00:41:33.400 --> 00:41:37.239
therefore it has more relevance and validation versus something.

743
00:41:36.960 --> 00:41:40.199
That was passed on orally. I stopped at that. That

744
00:41:40.199 --> 00:41:42.280
that's the level of arrogance. That is just.

745
00:41:44.000 --> 00:41:46.280
I just don't I don't go for that crap, you

746
00:41:46.320 --> 00:41:51.079
know what I mean, because it's it's dismissive. You know,

747
00:41:51.239 --> 00:41:54.079
they want to they want to call it archaic, you

748
00:41:54.119 --> 00:41:58.119
know whatever, and just chuck it up the folk war.

749
00:41:58.239 --> 00:42:01.559
And that's not the case. It's not the case at all.

750
00:42:02.400 --> 00:42:03.480
That's extremely interesting.

751
00:42:03.519 --> 00:42:05.440
I never thought of it that way before, but that is,

752
00:42:05.519 --> 00:42:07.239
that is very very cool.

753
00:42:08.599 --> 00:42:09.000
Fred.

754
00:42:09.360 --> 00:42:12.400
So you mentioned earlier how there are these times in

755
00:42:12.440 --> 00:42:19.920
your early childhood where you you know, experience things and

756
00:42:20.360 --> 00:42:23.679
saw things. There were there times also in your as

757
00:42:23.719 --> 00:42:27.719
you got into adulthood where you know, you had experiences

758
00:42:27.719 --> 00:42:31.239
that kind of cemented it into your mind at an

759
00:42:31.239 --> 00:42:32.320
older age as well.

760
00:42:35.000 --> 00:42:38.199
Oh yes, several different times. But okay, let me break

761
00:42:38.239 --> 00:42:40.679
down for you. So, sure we would see him at

762
00:42:40.719 --> 00:42:43.840
a distance on a regular basis. No I'm not saying

763
00:42:43.880 --> 00:42:47.639
every day, but on a regular enough basis, we would

764
00:42:47.679 --> 00:42:50.320
see him at a distance, and usually what would happen

765
00:42:50.400 --> 00:42:54.639
in those occurrences would they would either run off or

766
00:42:54.760 --> 00:42:57.400
scream at us and break something. We would run off.

767
00:42:57.599 --> 00:42:59.960
And it was always at a distance. It was never

768
00:43:00.119 --> 00:43:03.440
like right up on us, except for a few times

769
00:43:03.559 --> 00:43:08.639
in passing, but it was always just inside a vehicle,

770
00:43:08.880 --> 00:43:11.280
just inside a house and things like that, to where

771
00:43:11.400 --> 00:43:14.800
they would they would typically leave or we would leave.

772
00:43:16.440 --> 00:43:20.000
H In ninety five, we me and my cousin, Spencer,

773
00:43:20.119 --> 00:43:24.119
and a couple other people, we were looking for woodland cariboo.

774
00:43:24.119 --> 00:43:26.280
They're a little bigger than your standard cariboo, what you

775
00:43:26.280 --> 00:43:29.400
would call a ranger, and we were we were checking

776
00:43:29.400 --> 00:43:32.440
these out pine meadows where some locals said, hey, they

777
00:43:32.519 --> 00:43:34.599
mill around up there. If you go up there and look,

778
00:43:34.639 --> 00:43:38.119
you'll probably find one. So we wanted one, and so

779
00:43:38.159 --> 00:43:41.360
we're up there on foot. We had we had beached

780
00:43:41.360 --> 00:43:45.559
our skiff, and we walked up this hill and they're

781
00:43:45.599 --> 00:43:48.519
sloping kind of like steps as we're going up to

782
00:43:48.679 --> 00:43:52.199
each of these little alpine meadows, and we got up

783
00:43:52.199 --> 00:43:54.920
to the upper, the most upper one in this portion

784
00:43:55.039 --> 00:43:59.280
of the basically the Wood River Mountains, and we got

785
00:43:59.360 --> 00:44:03.840
up to this ste and it was a lot of grass.

786
00:44:03.760 --> 00:44:06.519
And muskeg just at the beginnings of like a.

787
00:44:08.719 --> 00:44:11.800
Probably an ancient beaver pond, I would guess because of

788
00:44:11.840 --> 00:44:12.960
how the land laid.

789
00:44:13.599 --> 00:44:15.119
But it was all grass through there.

790
00:44:15.280 --> 00:44:17.679
And there was trees off to our right hand side

791
00:44:17.719 --> 00:44:21.440
about eighty yards away roughly, and these are black spruce,

792
00:44:21.519 --> 00:44:22.039
so they're not.

793
00:44:22.119 --> 00:44:25.119
Very big, and you know, they're just you know, they

794
00:44:25.159 --> 00:44:25.559
were there.

795
00:44:26.199 --> 00:44:28.519
Well, when we get up there, there was no wind

796
00:44:28.880 --> 00:44:32.639
and the grass was about pourk foot tall, and so

797
00:44:32.960 --> 00:44:35.760
we're looking around for sign a caribout and the wind

798
00:44:35.800 --> 00:44:39.159
blew from behind us and started, you know, the grass

799
00:44:39.239 --> 00:44:42.039
moved like you would see a wave crash against the beach,

800
00:44:42.119 --> 00:44:44.840
you know what I mean. And this grass was moving

801
00:44:44.960 --> 00:44:49.519
and this one portion didn't move. It was a female

802
00:44:50.360 --> 00:44:54.639
sasquatch and it was squatted down and if the wind

803
00:44:54.679 --> 00:44:57.639
hadn't blown, we would have never seen her. But the

804
00:44:57.679 --> 00:45:01.800
wind blew we noticed, and immediately she stood up because

805
00:45:02.320 --> 00:45:04.199
the gig was up, we saw her.

806
00:45:05.119 --> 00:45:05.840
She stood up.

807
00:45:06.639 --> 00:45:11.159
She basically had a caramel kind of dead grass color,

808
00:45:12.079 --> 00:45:14.840
and she was dark arm the lower portion of her body.

809
00:45:15.559 --> 00:45:19.360
But once we saw her, she made eye contacts, stood

810
00:45:19.400 --> 00:45:22.239
there briefly and let out the scream as she ran

811
00:45:22.320 --> 00:45:27.639
from our left to our right, very fast, very very fast.

812
00:45:27.719 --> 00:45:30.639
But her coloring was such that as soon as she

813
00:45:30.719 --> 00:45:35.920
hit those black spruce, she blended in seamlessly like a

814
00:45:36.480 --> 00:45:38.800
baby duckling in the grass, you know what I mean.

815
00:45:39.000 --> 00:45:43.519
Just natural camouflage made it appear that she disappeared, but

816
00:45:43.639 --> 00:45:44.400
she was still there.

817
00:45:44.440 --> 00:45:44.880
You heard her.

818
00:45:44.880 --> 00:45:47.519
Crash through the trees and stuff, and she was still

819
00:45:47.599 --> 00:45:49.480
bellowing and screaming and running away.

820
00:45:51.079 --> 00:45:53.920
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821
00:45:53.960 --> 00:45:55.000
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822
00:45:58.760 --> 00:46:02.000
And that was typical we what we would deal with

823
00:46:02.199 --> 00:46:04.360
out in the bush. Typically.

824
00:46:04.960 --> 00:46:07.519
You know, some sometimes villagers will say it stole my

825
00:46:07.639 --> 00:46:12.400
fish or this and that, you know, but never for

826
00:46:12.440 --> 00:46:17.280
the most part, you didn't hear about outright attacks right

827
00:46:18.719 --> 00:46:19.400
when you did.

828
00:46:19.519 --> 00:46:21.199
It was always second third.

829
00:46:20.920 --> 00:46:24.599
Hand, you know, so and so when missing, you know,

830
00:46:24.719 --> 00:46:28.320
harry Man attack or whatever, and you didn't disbelieve. You

831
00:46:28.480 --> 00:46:32.000
just basically thought, well, at least it wasn't me, you know,

832
00:46:32.119 --> 00:46:35.519
kind of kind of frame a thought. Up until two

833
00:46:35.519 --> 00:46:38.880
thousand and six, I would have told you they screamed,

834
00:46:38.920 --> 00:46:41.800
they break stuff, you leave, they throw stuff. Every once

835
00:46:41.840 --> 00:46:44.199
in a while they may come around your house, but

836
00:46:44.599 --> 00:46:45.719
they eventually leave.

837
00:46:45.920 --> 00:46:47.320
Just leave them alone, you know.

838
00:46:47.320 --> 00:46:51.039
That That was my mindset up until six. And what

839
00:46:51.119 --> 00:46:55.000
happened in two thousand and six is it actually started

840
00:46:55.440 --> 00:46:59.760
oh four when my uncle he wanted to go gold

841
00:46:59.760 --> 00:47:05.719
crop and he knew he had to get portable sluice box,

842
00:47:06.039 --> 00:47:08.639
you know, everything portable because you know, we had limited

843
00:47:08.639 --> 00:47:11.599
capacity on the twenty two foot skiff and he wanted

844
00:47:11.639 --> 00:47:14.880
to be a fishing and so it took a couple

845
00:47:14.840 --> 00:47:17.960
of seasons for him to cure all this stuff. And

846
00:47:18.199 --> 00:47:22.599
in six at the end of the fishing season, he said,

847
00:47:22.599 --> 00:47:25.199
this is the year you got the time? I said, sure,

848
00:47:25.239 --> 00:47:27.400
do you, uncle, you know, just just name the time. Well,

849
00:47:27.440 --> 00:47:30.599
he wanted to leave September twelfth, and that's my birthday.

850
00:47:31.159 --> 00:47:33.280
So I asked if we could leave the thirteenth so

851
00:47:33.320 --> 00:47:36.280
I could be in civilization at least some part of

852
00:47:36.320 --> 00:47:38.800
civilization for my thirty.

853
00:47:38.519 --> 00:47:40.400
First birthday, you know, And he was like, okay, we'll

854
00:47:40.440 --> 00:47:41.280
leave the thirteenth.

855
00:47:41.320 --> 00:47:44.760
So we left Gillingham the thirteenth to September in two

856
00:47:44.800 --> 00:47:47.880
thousand and six, and we launched from Squad Creek and

857
00:47:47.960 --> 00:47:51.719
we went up the Newsgak River, and it's roughly two

858
00:47:51.840 --> 00:47:53.599
hundred and forty eight river miles to.

859
00:47:53.599 --> 00:47:55.480
The New Yorkuk River where we were going.

860
00:47:56.440 --> 00:47:58.920
And that was a couple of days process because my

861
00:47:59.000 --> 00:48:01.159
uncle was in his mid the late sixties at that

862
00:48:01.239 --> 00:48:04.639
time and he would get cold on the water. So

863
00:48:04.800 --> 00:48:07.280
we stopped in the Studia Hawk, visited with family for

864
00:48:07.320 --> 00:48:10.599
a day or so, and then went up river, refueled

865
00:48:10.599 --> 00:48:13.599
that Kaliganik, and then continued on up to the New

866
00:48:13.679 --> 00:48:17.719
Yak Cut. And we got to the New yak Cuk

867
00:48:18.679 --> 00:48:23.400
September seventeenth, and it was a couple hours before dark.

868
00:48:23.800 --> 00:48:26.320
We got there, and me and my.

869
00:48:26.320 --> 00:48:28.920
Cousin wanted to run up and down the river real quick,

870
00:48:29.119 --> 00:48:31.360
just check things out, but because it was getting late

871
00:48:31.440 --> 00:48:34.159
and had the boat to unload, we opted to wait

872
00:48:34.320 --> 00:48:39.800
till the next day. So we unload everything, and we

873
00:48:40.039 --> 00:48:43.079
weren't loud, we weren't boisterous, we weren't parting it up

874
00:48:43.199 --> 00:48:45.480
or just randomly shooting guns off in the woods or

875
00:48:45.519 --> 00:48:48.079
anything like that. We just unloaded the skiff and went

876
00:48:48.119 --> 00:48:50.199
into this little salmon count of power shack.

877
00:48:51.360 --> 00:48:53.000
It was eight foot square.

878
00:48:53.599 --> 00:48:57.800
Everything was made with minimal cutting because in remote Alaska,

879
00:48:58.239 --> 00:49:01.039
by state law, you can't have any permanent structures.

880
00:49:01.119 --> 00:49:04.519
So this thing was on skids. So it's an eight.

881
00:49:04.360 --> 00:49:09.000
Foot square it's five inches plywood on two by four studs.

882
00:49:10.159 --> 00:49:14.039
Minimal construction, I mean their minimum is basically a dried

883
00:49:14.119 --> 00:49:16.480
end shell. And on the back side of this place

884
00:49:17.199 --> 00:49:20.239
was a fifty style egg shell kind of looking camper,

885
00:49:20.400 --> 00:49:22.440
you know, the kind I'm talking about, little toe behind

886
00:49:23.400 --> 00:49:26.159
the front of that had been cut off and mounted

887
00:49:26.280 --> 00:49:30.440
to the back side of this little shack, and all

888
00:49:30.480 --> 00:49:31.719
the windows were blacked out.

889
00:49:31.800 --> 00:49:32.760
In that back portion.

890
00:49:34.039 --> 00:49:36.239
It was a bunk bunk area because the land of

891
00:49:36.280 --> 00:49:39.159
the midnight sun, it stays light out dawn.

892
00:49:39.000 --> 00:49:42.639
Near day, you know, day and nights. And so.

893
00:49:44.280 --> 00:49:46.159
When you step in the door, as you come up

894
00:49:46.199 --> 00:49:48.960
the bank, it's about twenty feet to the front of

895
00:49:49.039 --> 00:49:53.000
this place, and it's about a six seven foot climb

896
00:49:53.000 --> 00:49:55.000
because it's on a cut bank to get to the

897
00:49:55.320 --> 00:49:56.280
you know, to the top of.

898
00:49:56.280 --> 00:49:56.880
The bank there.

899
00:49:57.639 --> 00:49:59.599
And when you're looking at the place, if you're looking

900
00:49:59.679 --> 00:50:02.519
direct at it from the front, the door is to

901
00:50:02.599 --> 00:50:04.719
the left hand side of it. There's an old oil

902
00:50:04.800 --> 00:50:07.840
drum stand to the right hand side. And again this

903
00:50:08.000 --> 00:50:10.880
is only eight foot wide, and so when you open

904
00:50:10.920 --> 00:50:14.000
this door. It's flimsy. It's two by four on five

905
00:50:14.039 --> 00:50:16.760
aeks plywood. All ahead was this little j hook to

906
00:50:16.840 --> 00:50:19.719
keep the door shut, and a little bit of a

907
00:50:20.000 --> 00:50:23.039
old piece of drift wood screwed into the two by

908
00:50:23.119 --> 00:50:27.800
four as a handle. So when you step in, there's

909
00:50:27.840 --> 00:50:31.639
a little card table immediately to your left, right there,

910
00:50:32.079 --> 00:50:35.960
and eighteen by twenty inch window right above it, and

911
00:50:36.199 --> 00:50:40.199
mirroring that window across on the other side was a

912
00:50:40.320 --> 00:50:43.559
little miniature sink, little tiny sink that drained right to

913
00:50:43.679 --> 00:50:46.960
the outside, and another eighteen by twenty four inch window

914
00:50:47.000 --> 00:50:50.440
on that side, and then you got the little entryway

915
00:50:50.519 --> 00:50:51.840
dead center on the back.

916
00:50:51.639 --> 00:50:53.880
Side that went into this fifty style trailer.

917
00:50:55.199 --> 00:50:59.719
So we get in there, landload everything, and my uncle

918
00:50:59.719 --> 00:51:04.800
cooked spoils. He made some salmon head chowder and whatnot,

919
00:51:05.119 --> 00:51:07.000
and we had gotten done eating.

920
00:51:07.199 --> 00:51:09.159
And that year I.

921
00:51:09.119 --> 00:51:11.400
Had spent some of my fishing money on a brand

922
00:51:11.400 --> 00:51:14.920
new Remington eight seventy shotgun. It was a rifle barrel.

923
00:51:14.960 --> 00:51:16.920
It is going to be my slug gun, you know,

924
00:51:17.079 --> 00:51:20.159
just a gun with a brush, and I was real

925
00:51:20.239 --> 00:51:23.079
happy with it, but the rear sight I was trying

926
00:51:23.079 --> 00:51:25.599
to adjust it, and because I had shot it a

927
00:51:25.599 --> 00:51:27.519
couple of times run up river, and I noticed that

928
00:51:27.679 --> 00:51:29.440
the site was off a little bit, so as I

929
00:51:29.480 --> 00:51:32.960
was doing the adjustments. At this point in time, my

930
00:51:33.599 --> 00:51:36.119
uncle and my cousin are playing cribbage at this little

931
00:51:36.119 --> 00:51:39.159
table and we got a Coleman lantern going because it's.

932
00:51:39.039 --> 00:51:41.239
About a half hour after dark at this point.

933
00:51:42.480 --> 00:51:45.599
And as we're sitting there talking, my uncle was giving

934
00:51:45.639 --> 00:51:48.519
us instruction on, you know, I want a couple of

935
00:51:48.519 --> 00:51:50.679
buckets of kaydrick from over here that I want to

936
00:51:50.719 --> 00:51:52.599
try to say apple, and this and that, because his

937
00:51:52.840 --> 00:51:57.639
overall goal was to basically stake a claim and this

938
00:51:57.800 --> 00:52:01.599
is just out of the proposed pebble mind, which is,

939
00:52:02.199 --> 00:52:05.440
according to what they say, the largest golden copper reserves

940
00:52:05.519 --> 00:52:09.079
in the world. Okay, so there's a reason for that,

941
00:52:09.119 --> 00:52:12.519
because there's gold everywhere over there, right, So that his

942
00:52:13.000 --> 00:52:16.199
idea was to basically start a goal mine, but you know,

943
00:52:16.360 --> 00:52:19.239
just start small and see what we could find. It

944
00:52:19.559 --> 00:52:22.920
was his line of thinking. So he's given us instruction

945
00:52:23.039 --> 00:52:25.360
on where he wants the buckets and this and that,

946
00:52:26.119 --> 00:52:30.440
and I'm still dinking with this rear sight. Well as

947
00:52:30.480 --> 00:52:33.400
he's talking, all of a sudden, the whole place kind

948
00:52:33.400 --> 00:52:37.239
of shifts. It just made this creaking kind of sound, right,

949
00:52:37.320 --> 00:52:40.679
And so there was no wind blowing, because again this

950
00:52:40.800 --> 00:52:44.079
is just a glorified box. We would have known that

951
00:52:44.119 --> 00:52:46.400
the wind was blowing, you know what I mean. And

952
00:52:46.440 --> 00:52:48.559
there was no wind blowing. So when I look over

953
00:52:48.599 --> 00:52:51.519
at my cousin where he's sitting, he's got the window

954
00:52:51.559 --> 00:52:53.960
behind him, and between his shoulder and the top of

955
00:52:54.000 --> 00:52:58.079
that window, I saw dark movements. And the way I

956
00:52:58.119 --> 00:53:00.440
looked over there, he jumps up and says, hey, that

957
00:53:00.480 --> 00:53:03.239
ain't funny, and I was like, no, no, there was movement.

958
00:53:03.400 --> 00:53:06.000
So we're on the Salmon River right there was spawn

959
00:53:06.039 --> 00:53:07.920
outs in the river as we're coming up, you know,

960
00:53:08.400 --> 00:53:12.239
So we immediately thought there, I mean, it was the

961
00:53:12.239 --> 00:53:16.039
only thing that made sense. Harry Man wasn't on our mind.

962
00:53:16.360 --> 00:53:20.559
It had because it was around We just superstition wise,

963
00:53:20.599 --> 00:53:23.800
when it comes to most villagers, they don't talk about

964
00:53:23.840 --> 00:53:26.559
it because it could bring a bad omen and so

965
00:53:26.599 --> 00:53:29.119
there's a lot of superstition involved. So it was nothing

966
00:53:29.159 --> 00:53:31.800
we actually openly talked about a lot of time.

967
00:53:32.559 --> 00:53:35.199
So he grabs a thirty out to six.

968
00:53:35.360 --> 00:53:37.360
I got that shot there, and we had one of

969
00:53:37.400 --> 00:53:42.239
those million candle walk powered like six bolt spotlights right

970
00:53:43.119 --> 00:53:46.920
fresh battery in it. We opened that door, and to

971
00:53:47.000 --> 00:53:49.239
our right would be the river bank, and to our left,

972
00:53:49.280 --> 00:53:52.920
about fifty yards away would be the tree line. And

973
00:53:53.000 --> 00:53:56.000
so immediately I putted to the side where we saw

974
00:53:56.039 --> 00:53:59.280
the movement, Well where I saw the movement, there's nothing there,

975
00:53:59.400 --> 00:54:01.760
and we'd be towards our left and more only about

976
00:54:02.239 --> 00:54:05.480
a step outside of this door, maybe a foot and half.

977
00:54:05.519 --> 00:54:06.719
We're shoulder to shoulder.

978
00:54:06.760 --> 00:54:09.440
We got guns ready, we're gonna scare this bear off.

979
00:54:10.199 --> 00:54:13.119
And as I pan to the left, once we hit

980
00:54:13.199 --> 00:54:17.679
the tree line to our left, we come across three

981
00:54:17.719 --> 00:54:21.840
sets of eye shine, and the eye shine was red.

982
00:54:22.639 --> 00:54:28.599
We could see these creatures. They their eyes were huge.

983
00:54:29.199 --> 00:54:31.679
They reminded me of fence post markers, you know, those

984
00:54:31.719 --> 00:54:33.800
three inch fence post markers.

985
00:54:34.400 --> 00:54:41.800
They were that big. And immediately like shock took over.

986
00:54:41.960 --> 00:54:43.159
It seemed.

987
00:54:46.639 --> 00:54:51.400
It was ominous, an instant feeling of dread, because typically,

988
00:54:51.760 --> 00:54:55.840
from what we've experienced before, you beam a flashlight at them,

989
00:54:55.840 --> 00:54:57.840
they kind of duck behind a tree, they kind of

990
00:54:57.840 --> 00:55:02.400
tried to hide themselves with These three didn't move, they

991
00:55:02.559 --> 00:55:05.800
just stood there. So we duck right back inside and

992
00:55:05.840 --> 00:55:07.400
I shut that little jay hook.

993
00:55:07.719 --> 00:55:12.119
And what was really weird is it felt.

994
00:55:11.840 --> 00:55:13.960
Like we put on ear muffs as soon as we

995
00:55:14.000 --> 00:55:15.320
went in back inside and.

996
00:55:15.320 --> 00:55:18.559
I shut that little jay hook. It was like everything

997
00:55:18.679 --> 00:55:19.360
was muffled.

998
00:55:19.760 --> 00:55:23.800
I was talking, and it's you know, have you ever

999
00:55:23.840 --> 00:55:26.400
been on a plane where your ears havn't fully popped?

1000
00:55:26.440 --> 00:55:28.880
So the person sitting next to you sounds like you

1001
00:55:28.960 --> 00:55:31.719
know they're right there, they sound kind of far away.

1002
00:55:32.320 --> 00:55:35.400
It was that kind of feeling. And so I'm talking

1003
00:55:35.440 --> 00:55:38.519
and I'm talking to my cousin. I was like, I

1004
00:55:38.559 --> 00:55:40.519
as I'm talking to my cousin about you saw what

1005
00:55:40.599 --> 00:55:42.320
I saw, right? And I tell him, my uncle, there's

1006
00:55:42.320 --> 00:55:44.960
a hering man out there. There's three of them. As

1007
00:55:45.000 --> 00:55:49.719
I'm saying that, within a moment, my cousin's on my

1008
00:55:49.920 --> 00:55:53.440
left shoulder and he's holding the barrel of that thirty

1009
00:55:53.440 --> 00:55:55.880
odd six with his hands kind of like just down.

1010
00:55:56.000 --> 00:55:58.000
He had the butt of the gun down between his feet.

1011
00:55:58.639 --> 00:56:00.880
I had just set the spotlight down and I'm holding

1012
00:56:00.920 --> 00:56:03.360
that shotgun in my left hand, kind of off ended,

1013
00:56:04.000 --> 00:56:07.960
trying to discuss what we're seeing, and all of a sudden,

1014
00:56:08.039 --> 00:56:11.840
my cousin is bamn. Underneath that card table had a

1015
00:56:11.920 --> 00:56:16.239
death grip on that barrel, and he's kind of moving

1016
00:56:16.239 --> 00:56:18.519
his arms up and down like he was turning butter

1017
00:56:18.559 --> 00:56:19.079
a little bit.

1018
00:56:19.440 --> 00:56:21.280
And he had wet himself.

1019
00:56:21.559 --> 00:56:25.119
And was just kind of not not writhing around, but

1020
00:56:25.239 --> 00:56:26.440
kind of twitchy.

1021
00:56:26.039 --> 00:56:30.199
A little bit. And he's looking the.

1022
00:56:30.199 --> 00:56:34.039
Opposite towards the opposite side, towards that window. But me

1023
00:56:34.039 --> 00:56:36.639
and my uncle looked at each other, We looked down

1024
00:56:36.679 --> 00:56:39.719
at him, we looked back at each other, and we

1025
00:56:39.840 --> 00:56:42.840
realized he's looking across the little room to that other

1026
00:56:42.920 --> 00:56:47.320
window by the sink. So I'm literally about three feet

1027
00:56:47.360 --> 00:56:50.840
from this window, and we both turn at the same time.

1028
00:56:51.480 --> 00:56:54.880
And once I made eye contact with this well, once

1029
00:56:54.920 --> 00:56:57.880
my eyes made contact with this thing, I could tell

1030
00:56:57.920 --> 00:56:59.960
it was looking at my cousin. But as soon as

1031
00:57:00.280 --> 00:57:03.199
I was looking at it, it turned its gaze at

1032
00:57:03.239 --> 00:57:07.280
me and hurled its brow. I only saw from the

1033
00:57:07.320 --> 00:57:10.400
bottom of its nose to the top of its eyebrow

1034
00:57:10.559 --> 00:57:11.840
in that eight and space.

1035
00:57:12.639 --> 00:57:17.320
It had ash gray skin. Its eyes were like black,

1036
00:57:17.400 --> 00:57:18.639
translucent marbles.

1037
00:57:19.599 --> 00:57:22.280
There was a slight glow to one from the Coleman lantern,

1038
00:57:22.920 --> 00:57:25.679
but it wasn't like a full on eyeshine. It was

1039
00:57:25.719 --> 00:57:36.400
a little doll down within two milliseconds. I immediately knew

1040
00:57:36.719 --> 00:57:37.679
what it felt.

1041
00:57:37.400 --> 00:57:38.280
Like to be prey.

1042
00:57:39.199 --> 00:57:41.239
I knew what it felt like to be the rabbit

1043
00:57:41.280 --> 00:57:43.039
in the hole with the wolf outside.

1044
00:57:43.400 --> 00:57:46.840
It wasn't no mind speak, it was in the air.

1045
00:57:47.199 --> 00:57:50.119
It was something about the energy in the air was

1046
00:57:50.840 --> 00:57:53.800
that of death, like you know, And and the way

1047
00:57:53.840 --> 00:57:57.159
it looked at me and and furled its brow to

1048
00:57:57.280 --> 00:58:04.039
kind of like glare right at me within milliseconds. It's

1049
00:58:04.079 --> 00:58:06.639
taken way longer to explain it than how it happened

1050
00:58:06.639 --> 00:58:10.000
because I turned, it gave me that look, and it

1051
00:58:10.079 --> 00:58:13.400
started moving out of view of the window towards my right,

1052
00:58:13.440 --> 00:58:15.519
and I just shut through the wall right there three

1053
00:58:15.559 --> 00:58:19.679
times with that shotgun. And what was weird is is

1054
00:58:19.880 --> 00:58:23.679
I discharged a shotgun in the small room and there

1055
00:58:23.719 --> 00:58:25.760
was no ringing of the ears. It just sounded like

1056
00:58:25.800 --> 00:58:30.719
a thump, bump, bump because of that pressure. That and

1057
00:58:30.800 --> 00:58:35.000
this pressure I'm referring to it. It stayed the whole time,

1058
00:58:35.239 --> 00:58:39.679
during this whole encounter, So it was constant. It didn't vary,

1059
00:58:39.800 --> 00:58:42.239
it didn't get less or heavier. It was a constant.

1060
00:58:42.320 --> 00:58:45.960
But so I shoot the three times and immediately there

1061
00:58:46.039 --> 00:58:50.239
is a scream and a simultaneous shift of this place,

1062
00:58:50.400 --> 00:58:51.960
and you know, I thought it was going to push

1063
00:58:52.039 --> 00:58:56.199
us in the river. Just I mean, we're less than

1064
00:58:56.199 --> 00:58:58.920
twenty feet from the bank. You know, I really thought

1065
00:58:58.920 --> 00:59:01.320
we're going in the river. There's this scream that was

1066
00:59:01.360 --> 00:59:04.840
so loud it shook everything in there. That pot that

1067
00:59:04.920 --> 00:59:07.360
the stew was made in, it rang like a tuning

1068
00:59:07.440 --> 00:59:08.559
fork from the screen.

1069
00:59:09.480 --> 00:59:11.679
The lantern was swinging. It almost took me.

1070
00:59:11.639 --> 00:59:16.199
Off my feet, and everything went quiet. There was no

1071
00:59:16.280 --> 00:59:20.599
more sound. My cousin wasn't responding. My uncle said a

1072
00:59:20.599 --> 00:59:22.559
couple of things, but he basically went and sat in

1073
00:59:22.599 --> 00:59:30.960
the bunk room there, and I'm freaking out.

1074
00:59:30.039 --> 00:59:35.679
I was yelling at them to help me. I was.

1075
00:59:36.639 --> 00:59:37.920
I felt all alone.

1076
00:59:38.599 --> 00:59:44.679
And I'm amongst some of the most hardcore subsistence hunters

1077
00:59:45.000 --> 00:59:50.480
that I have ever known. You know, my cousin, for example,

1078
00:59:50.599 --> 00:59:53.039
he was shoulder and the shoulder with me with a

1079
00:59:53.159 --> 00:59:59.280
charging sou you know, over eight hundred pounds female brown

1080
00:59:59.320 --> 01:00:03.800
bear charging us. He stood his ground, and to see him,

1081
01:00:04.000 --> 01:00:07.920
he had wet himself. He's babbling underneath the table and

1082
01:00:08.440 --> 01:00:17.719
my uncle isn't engaging me, and so I knew it

1083
01:00:17.760 --> 01:00:21.559
wasn't over. Like something within me. I knew we couldn't

1084
01:00:21.639 --> 01:00:23.800
just okay, let's call it a night and start fresh

1085
01:00:23.840 --> 01:00:26.960
in the morning kind of thing, because that wasn't what

1086
01:00:27.039 --> 01:00:27.559
was happening.

1087
01:00:27.599 --> 01:00:31.440
The energy was very ominous. It was dead quiet.

1088
01:00:31.880 --> 01:00:34.320
So what I ended up doing was is I slid

1089
01:00:34.400 --> 01:00:37.559
one of the chairs over by that stupid, little flimsy

1090
01:00:37.599 --> 01:00:39.119
door for whatever good that would do.

1091
01:00:39.599 --> 01:00:42.199
And I took the other chair and I put.

1092
01:00:41.960 --> 01:00:45.119
It right at the opening of that little cubby and

1093
01:00:45.239 --> 01:00:48.960
I basically sat there in that chair listening to that

1094
01:00:49.039 --> 01:00:51.800
Coleman lantern his I don't know if you've ever dealt

1095
01:00:51.840 --> 01:00:54.760
with them, the white gas coman learns you gotta pump

1096
01:00:54.800 --> 01:00:55.840
them every once in a while.

1097
01:00:57.719 --> 01:01:00.599
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1098
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1099
01:01:05.760 --> 01:01:08.840
But I sat there for gosh, had to have been

1100
01:01:08.960 --> 01:01:17.000
five six hours, periodically asking for help. The only the

1101
01:01:17.039 --> 01:01:22.679
only reason I was able to stop shaking like uncontrollably

1102
01:01:23.159 --> 01:01:26.400
was I I resigned myself to death.

1103
01:01:26.639 --> 01:01:28.159
I had to.

1104
01:01:28.400 --> 01:01:32.039
Literally, I'm a dead man. I had to accept it,

1105
01:01:32.400 --> 01:01:34.679
and I had to and that was the only way

1106
01:01:34.800 --> 01:01:39.599
I could rationally think. I stayed a bunch of ammo.

1107
01:01:40.280 --> 01:01:42.440
I tried to get the thirty six for my cousin.

1108
01:01:42.559 --> 01:01:45.199
But it was loaded, and he wasn't letting go. He

1109
01:01:45.360 --> 01:01:49.519
still wasn't responding. He was still in lalla land like.

1110
01:01:50.719 --> 01:01:55.039
And my uncle was basically shut down. He wasn't saying much.

1111
01:01:55.440 --> 01:01:59.239
He had his bible, he was being quiet. He had

1112
01:01:59.719 --> 01:02:03.760
baseasically no advice to offer, and he was he wasn't

1113
01:02:03.840 --> 01:02:05.199
engaging whatsoever.

1114
01:02:06.320 --> 01:02:09.239
And so I sat there pumping that lantern.

1115
01:02:09.280 --> 01:02:12.159
Every once in a while, I was gripping that shotgun

1116
01:02:13.159 --> 01:02:17.119
so hard that it hurts my hands. I would have

1117
01:02:17.199 --> 01:02:19.519
to let go and shake life back in my hands

1118
01:02:19.599 --> 01:02:23.079
because it in my hands. I was gripping it so hard.

1119
01:02:24.039 --> 01:02:28.119
And you know, when a moth would hit the window,

1120
01:02:28.440 --> 01:02:33.360
Oh my god, there were several times I almost swiss

1121
01:02:33.480 --> 01:02:35.760
cheese that place from the inside out, just from a

1122
01:02:35.840 --> 01:02:40.159
moth hitting the window. There was moments a time where

1123
01:02:40.760 --> 01:02:43.360
I was just screaming out loud, you know, Ef, and

1124
01:02:43.480 --> 01:02:46.039
come get me, you know, various things.

1125
01:02:46.360 --> 01:02:49.599
Just it was rough.

1126
01:02:52.039 --> 01:02:55.000
Because I was there with two other people I loved,

1127
01:02:55.519 --> 01:02:59.280
but no one was helping me, you know. And so

1128
01:03:00.360 --> 01:03:02.800
and I'm guestimating because I was in fits.

1129
01:03:02.559 --> 01:03:03.480
Of terror, you know.

1130
01:03:04.159 --> 01:03:06.480
So the time frame of how long I sat there

1131
01:03:07.079 --> 01:03:11.400
without my cousin responding, I'm guessing five to six hours,

1132
01:03:12.000 --> 01:03:16.719
you give or take, because again I wasn't fully in

1133
01:03:16.719 --> 01:03:19.920
my right mind, but I knew in my heart of hearts,

1134
01:03:19.920 --> 01:03:22.360
I couldn't just go lay down and call it a night.

1135
01:03:22.800 --> 01:03:25.719
I just shot this thing through the wall, and I

1136
01:03:25.760 --> 01:03:28.760
don't know what else is coming. You know, we saw

1137
01:03:28.800 --> 01:03:31.280
the three sets of eye shine. This one was looking

1138
01:03:31.320 --> 01:03:34.800
at the in the window at us, so I knew

1139
01:03:35.000 --> 01:03:39.480
it was going on. Whatever was happening was happening, and

1140
01:03:39.559 --> 01:03:43.360
it's gonna be what's gonna be kind of thing. Once

1141
01:03:43.480 --> 01:03:47.360
my cousin did start coming out of his stupor, and

1142
01:03:47.360 --> 01:03:51.199
it took a while because he was incoherent. He was

1143
01:03:51.239 --> 01:03:55.920
babbling stuff, stuff that made no sense, gibberish. But once

1144
01:03:55.960 --> 01:03:58.840
he once he was back more to himself and I

1145
01:03:58.880 --> 01:04:03.880
got him talking, We got him changed, and I got

1146
01:04:03.960 --> 01:04:06.039
him calmed down enough, you know, by reassuring him I

1147
01:04:06.079 --> 01:04:07.400
shot it, man, it ran away.

1148
01:04:07.599 --> 01:04:08.159
I shot it.

1149
01:04:08.159 --> 01:04:11.880
It's gone, and you know that helped. It brought peace

1150
01:04:11.880 --> 01:04:15.559
and calm to him a little bit. But we were

1151
01:04:15.639 --> 01:04:18.800
still in the middle of it, you know, and I

1152
01:04:18.840 --> 01:04:20.719
asked him, I was like, what.

1153
01:04:20.800 --> 01:04:24.920
Did you see? And once he pulled himself together.

1154
01:04:25.000 --> 01:04:27.880
He told me that it showed him his teeth, and

1155
01:04:27.960 --> 01:04:30.199
from what he said, when he was standing next to

1156
01:04:30.239 --> 01:04:33.559
me and I was talking, he looked out that window

1157
01:04:33.800 --> 01:04:36.519
and there was enough of the light from the lantern

1158
01:04:37.000 --> 01:04:39.480
that he saw it. It was a little further away

1159
01:04:39.519 --> 01:04:41.800
from the window, and it showed his teeth and his

1160
01:04:41.920 --> 01:04:44.800
body shut down. And he said when he was under

1161
01:04:44.840 --> 01:04:47.360
the table looking he was trying to tell us, but

1162
01:04:47.559 --> 01:04:48.480
nothing would come out.

1163
01:04:48.519 --> 01:04:50.599
He was just seizing up, basically.

1164
01:04:51.480 --> 01:04:54.000
But that's when it came in closer to the window,

1165
01:04:54.480 --> 01:04:57.599
and that's when we turned and I saw it, and

1166
01:04:57.639 --> 01:05:02.360
so we we realized we need to get out of there.

1167
01:05:03.039 --> 01:05:06.920
It was not going to you know, we didn't want

1168
01:05:06.960 --> 01:05:10.639
to be there. It was all bad. So we came

1169
01:05:10.719 --> 01:05:12.480
up with the game plan. We were going to make

1170
01:05:12.519 --> 01:05:15.639
it to the skiff, which is twenty five feet away.

1171
01:05:16.000 --> 01:05:18.480
You know, it seemed like ten miles away at the time,

1172
01:05:18.519 --> 01:05:22.079
but it was literally just not very far, and we

1173
01:05:22.079 --> 01:05:24.519
were going to drift out of there until we got

1174
01:05:24.559 --> 01:05:27.039
further down river because it was pitch black. You know,

1175
01:05:27.079 --> 01:05:29.239
there was no way to fire up the outboard and

1176
01:05:29.400 --> 01:05:31.559
safely navigate the river.

1177
01:05:32.000 --> 01:05:33.480
You know, there's too many dead ball.

1178
01:05:33.400 --> 01:05:36.199
Trees, there's rocks, there's all sorts of things that could

1179
01:05:36.239 --> 01:05:38.599
go wrong on that. So we were going to use

1180
01:05:38.639 --> 01:05:43.239
the spotlight our initial plan to basically keep ourselves going

1181
01:05:43.239 --> 01:05:46.239
to you know, downstream and you know, use the oars

1182
01:05:46.280 --> 01:05:47.480
to kind of steer or whatever.

1183
01:05:47.880 --> 01:05:49.199
That was our initial plan.

1184
01:05:50.239 --> 01:05:52.800
And so we're sitting there quiet for a while, and

1185
01:05:54.119 --> 01:05:56.800
as we're getting up, because it was so quiet.

1186
01:05:57.039 --> 01:05:59.760
We were getting more brave, we were getting more.

1187
01:05:59.679 --> 01:06:02.880
Courage to make this move, and my cousin brings up,

1188
01:06:03.079 --> 01:06:06.719
let's use the spotlight and see if there's anything outside

1189
01:06:06.760 --> 01:06:11.159
we can see. So we shut up the lantern because

1190
01:06:11.400 --> 01:06:15.119
it was creating a mirrored effect inside, you know what

1191
01:06:15.199 --> 01:06:18.480
I mean. And so with it being pitched black outside,

1192
01:06:18.639 --> 01:06:21.320
the light inside just made the windows look like mirrors.

1193
01:06:21.320 --> 01:06:24.920
So we killed that and we beamed out the riverside first,

1194
01:06:25.320 --> 01:06:28.280
and we took a really good look. We saw nothing

1195
01:06:28.360 --> 01:06:32.119
on that side, and believe me, we were really really looking.

1196
01:06:32.639 --> 01:06:35.000
And so we went to the other side and we

1197
01:06:36.360 --> 01:06:38.880
started at the point we saw the three sets of

1198
01:06:38.960 --> 01:06:42.920
eye shine and we're beaming and we see nothing.

1199
01:06:43.320 --> 01:06:44.199
I mean, there's nothing.

1200
01:06:44.239 --> 01:06:49.280
It's quieta quiet and this this beam, this spotlight had

1201
01:06:49.280 --> 01:06:51.760
a fresh battery, so it's not like, you know, it

1202
01:06:51.800 --> 01:06:53.400
didn't have the candela.

1203
01:06:53.679 --> 01:06:58.920
It was bright, and we beam in there. Off kitty corner.

1204
01:06:58.599 --> 01:07:01.280
Off the back side of this ship, at about forty

1205
01:07:01.320 --> 01:07:05.280
feet there's this old outhouse that long out of use,

1206
01:07:05.360 --> 01:07:07.519
but it was about eight eight and a half foot tall.

1207
01:07:08.119 --> 01:07:11.519
It was built with minimal cuts and it had a

1208
01:07:11.519 --> 01:07:13.840
one sided roof, but at its highest point it was

1209
01:07:13.840 --> 01:07:16.519
about eight eight and a half feet tall. Once we

1210
01:07:16.679 --> 01:07:21.000
beamed back to that point, we noticed this big, hulking

1211
01:07:21.079 --> 01:07:24.239
silhouette behind it. It wasn't immediately behind it, it was

1212
01:07:24.400 --> 01:07:27.079
kind of back a little bit from it. But this

1213
01:07:27.199 --> 01:07:32.079
silhouette was every bit of thirteen or fourteen foot tall.

1214
01:07:32.519 --> 01:07:35.559
It was hulking five five and a half foot wide.

1215
01:07:37.440 --> 01:07:41.599
It's black, the creepiest thing. Its size was immense, but

1216
01:07:42.159 --> 01:07:45.159
it was absorbing the light. It was giving nothing back,

1217
01:07:45.239 --> 01:07:48.639
no eyeshine. Even a BlackBerry can beam it with a

1218
01:07:48.679 --> 01:07:51.280
flashlight at night. It has kind of like a silky

1219
01:07:51.440 --> 01:07:54.559
kind of chrome copper, you know, kind of reflection to

1220
01:07:55.400 --> 01:07:58.519
its high. This gave nothing. It was like it was

1221
01:07:58.599 --> 01:08:01.960
absorbing all the light. It was like a big black

1222
01:08:02.119 --> 01:08:06.320
nothing there for us. So it started moving a little

1223
01:08:06.360 --> 01:08:09.880
bit towards our right. We immediately killed that spotlight and

1224
01:08:09.920 --> 01:08:13.599
we're all took back into that little cobby pitch black.

1225
01:08:14.760 --> 01:08:15.719
We were freaking out.

1226
01:08:16.159 --> 01:08:18.039
I know we had the barrels cross because I kept

1227
01:08:18.079 --> 01:08:21.479
hearing the barrel of my shotgun butting.

1228
01:08:21.119 --> 01:08:23.039
Against the barrel of the thirty odd to six.

1229
01:08:24.199 --> 01:08:28.560
And we stayed like that for gosh quite a while, again,

1230
01:08:29.720 --> 01:08:33.399
just dead quiet. All we saw was that menacing holking figure,

1231
01:08:34.199 --> 01:08:39.560
and we hid and we heard nothing. So after a

1232
01:08:39.560 --> 01:08:44.720
while it being dead quiet, we started reformulating our game plan.

1233
01:08:45.760 --> 01:08:50.479
And as we're going over it and stuff oft in

1234
01:08:50.479 --> 01:08:55.880
the near distance, it sounded like roller wash from helicopter.

1235
01:08:55.960 --> 01:08:57.600
That fump fmp fump frump sound.

1236
01:08:58.399 --> 01:09:01.640
Well, we started feeling in the ground and what it

1237
01:09:01.840 --> 01:09:04.680
was was one of these things running by the shack.

1238
01:09:06.640 --> 01:09:09.960
And as soon as it ran by, because we felt

1239
01:09:10.000 --> 01:09:13.159
it in the ground, and as soon as it ran by,

1240
01:09:13.600 --> 01:09:16.560
it was like other ones were surrounding the place, and

1241
01:09:16.600 --> 01:09:18.399
they started running around as well.

1242
01:09:18.720 --> 01:09:20.600
I don't know if they were trying to draw our

1243
01:09:20.680 --> 01:09:21.399
fire or.

1244
01:09:21.359 --> 01:09:24.000
See if we were going to shoot again, or just

1245
01:09:24.079 --> 01:09:27.680
outright terrorize us, I don't know, but they ran around

1246
01:09:28.119 --> 01:09:30.319
and then they would it seemed like they would back off,

1247
01:09:30.399 --> 01:09:37.000
and then they would do it again and discontinued. Gosh,

1248
01:09:37.359 --> 01:09:40.119
in a moment, it seemed like about roughly fifteen minutes,

1249
01:09:41.920 --> 01:09:47.000
give or take, because we were white knunckle terror listening

1250
01:09:47.000 --> 01:09:50.520
to this. And at one point, as the running was

1251
01:09:50.560 --> 01:09:53.600
going on, it sounded like one of them was sniffing

1252
01:09:53.960 --> 01:10:01.920
the little trailer attachment to the shat. It's it's hard

1253
01:10:01.960 --> 01:10:07.760
to express the level of sheer terror like we were.

1254
01:10:09.119 --> 01:10:13.359
We were stuck, you know, and again, you know, one

1255
01:10:13.399 --> 01:10:18.479
of my driving forces or factors that you know, propelled

1256
01:10:18.560 --> 01:10:21.039
me forward to share people's encounters.

1257
01:10:21.479 --> 01:10:22.800
They had us dead to rights.

1258
01:10:22.840 --> 01:10:25.720
They could have smashed that place to nothing in a heartbeat,

1259
01:10:25.840 --> 01:10:29.479
snatched us out of there, but yet they didn't. They

1260
01:10:29.479 --> 01:10:34.960
could have, but they didn't. Anyway, Just something that dwells

1261
01:10:35.000 --> 01:10:36.960
on my mind a lot when I think about it,

1262
01:10:37.000 --> 01:10:40.119
is what they could have done yet they didn't. But anyway,

1263
01:10:40.199 --> 01:10:43.079
So that goes on for a little while, and then

1264
01:10:43.119 --> 01:10:46.640
they back off and it gets quiet, like super quiet again.

1265
01:10:47.880 --> 01:10:52.239
And again I don't know exactly how much time transpired,

1266
01:10:52.880 --> 01:10:56.119
but it was starting to get the first glimmers of

1267
01:10:56.800 --> 01:11:01.359
it getting lighter outside, and with it being quiet for

1268
01:11:01.439 --> 01:11:01.920
so long.

1269
01:11:02.119 --> 01:11:04.439
Again, we were getting our courage up.

1270
01:11:04.600 --> 01:11:08.279
We had our game plan down, and it dawned on

1271
01:11:08.319 --> 01:11:12.680
me at that point that we drugged the anchor and

1272
01:11:13.239 --> 01:11:17.359
bow line from that skiff fifty to seventy yards. It

1273
01:11:17.439 --> 01:11:20.560
was a long bow line because that skiff was used

1274
01:11:20.920 --> 01:11:23.760
for a set in site, and so your anchor had

1275
01:11:23.800 --> 01:11:26.199
to be long enough to hook the bottom and still

1276
01:11:27.039 --> 01:11:29.960
not get swamped when high tide came in. Right, So

1277
01:11:30.560 --> 01:11:32.760
we had taken that anchor when we first got there

1278
01:11:32.800 --> 01:11:34.760
and drug it back over on to the tundra and

1279
01:11:34.840 --> 01:11:36.079
dug it into the tundra.

1280
01:11:36.319 --> 01:11:38.920
So we're basically tethered into the place.

1281
01:11:39.720 --> 01:11:42.760
And luckily just ten foot of that bowl line was

1282
01:11:42.840 --> 01:11:46.000
chained and then it went to a regular rope. And

1283
01:11:46.039 --> 01:11:49.560
so I told my cousin, you know, when you go first,

1284
01:11:49.600 --> 01:11:52.479
you're gonna have to cut that bow line and I'll

1285
01:11:52.520 --> 01:11:56.119
make sure that you know your dad falls behind me,

1286
01:11:56.439 --> 01:12:00.159
and I'll keep a guard while you start to out

1287
01:12:00.199 --> 01:12:01.079
board and all that stuff.

1288
01:12:01.159 --> 01:12:02.479
Right that that was our game plan.

1289
01:12:03.479 --> 01:12:06.159
And so we're sitting there and we're just getting our

1290
01:12:06.199 --> 01:12:09.560
courage up because it's getting lighter out and all of

1291
01:12:09.560 --> 01:12:12.119
a sudden, that same side of the wall that the

1292
01:12:12.159 --> 01:12:15.039
door is on the front side. It sounded like a

1293
01:12:15.079 --> 01:12:19.600
pelagun shooting it. At first, it was just a that

1294
01:12:19.600 --> 01:12:23.399
that sound right, and then the cadence increased where and

1295
01:12:23.439 --> 01:12:25.319
then all of a sudden, it was like a hailstorm

1296
01:12:25.359 --> 01:12:29.000
against that side. So again, immediately we retreated back into

1297
01:12:29.000 --> 01:12:33.399
that cubby, the alls crossed again, Like what the hell?

1298
01:12:33.520 --> 01:12:36.079
It was like every time we were getting up the

1299
01:12:36.159 --> 01:12:39.279
gumption to make a break for it, it was almost

1300
01:12:39.319 --> 01:12:42.199
like they sensed it and they would do something to

1301
01:12:42.359 --> 01:12:43.119
terrorize us.

1302
01:12:43.760 --> 01:12:44.560
I felt toyed with.

1303
01:12:45.560 --> 01:12:48.159
I really felt like cat and mouse typers and so

1304
01:12:48.439 --> 01:12:51.479
that still bothers me to this day.

1305
01:12:52.159 --> 01:12:53.079
Anyway, So.

1306
01:12:55.239 --> 01:12:59.159
We're in this cubby and we're all being quiet, and

1307
01:12:59.239 --> 01:13:01.680
after it's quiet a while, we start whispering because it's

1308
01:13:01.680 --> 01:13:07.119
getting a lighter outside. And we sat there to where

1309
01:13:07.159 --> 01:13:09.760
it was light enough where we could easily see the

1310
01:13:09.800 --> 01:13:11.960
tree line, and we couldn't really see into the trees

1311
01:13:12.000 --> 01:13:14.920
too much because it was still silhouetted, but there was

1312
01:13:15.039 --> 01:13:18.640
enough daylight to where we could see the open ground.

1313
01:13:19.199 --> 01:13:21.680
And with they'd been so quiet for so long. After that,

1314
01:13:22.239 --> 01:13:25.600
we've got our courage up, and so my cousin's in

1315
01:13:25.640 --> 01:13:28.680
front of me. I'm in the middle and my elders

1316
01:13:28.720 --> 01:13:32.039
behind me, and I have the thirty out six. At

1317
01:13:32.039 --> 01:13:34.960
this point, my cousin has a shot run and I

1318
01:13:35.039 --> 01:13:39.239
have my uncle's thirty his twelve gays old wing mastered,

1319
01:13:39.239 --> 01:13:41.560
big old long goost gun. It was a twelve gage,

1320
01:13:42.039 --> 01:13:44.760
but I had that swung over my shoulder for more

1321
01:13:44.840 --> 01:13:49.439
rounds if I needed them. Because he was in his sixties,

1322
01:13:49.560 --> 01:13:53.119
he wasn't imbolent, but he wasn't spry, you know what

1323
01:13:53.199 --> 01:13:53.479
I mean.

1324
01:13:53.560 --> 01:13:55.800
He kind of walked with a little bit of a hobble.

1325
01:13:56.359 --> 01:13:58.239
So you know, I wanted to make sure I had

1326
01:13:58.359 --> 01:14:02.800
enough firepower on me as possible. So it's quiet, and

1327
01:14:02.880 --> 01:14:05.800
so you know, it's go time. So he has my

1328
01:14:05.880 --> 01:14:08.560
pocket knife. He has to cut that bow line and

1329
01:14:08.720 --> 01:14:11.880
jump in the skip and started. That was our game plan.

1330
01:14:12.000 --> 01:14:14.800
So we kicked the door open and boom, We're at

1331
01:14:14.880 --> 01:14:17.800
the edge of the bank in no time. My cousin

1332
01:14:17.840 --> 01:14:21.479
immediately jumps down. I stopped paying attention to him because

1333
01:14:21.720 --> 01:14:24.800
my uncle's behind me, and it's a six seven foot

1334
01:14:24.880 --> 01:14:28.319
drop on a cut bank, So the dew on the

1335
01:14:28.359 --> 01:14:30.159
grass and everything it was a little slippery, so I

1336
01:14:30.159 --> 01:14:32.800
had to help him get his footing so he could

1337
01:14:32.880 --> 01:14:35.319
make it down the bank safely and not just top over.

1338
01:14:36.279 --> 01:14:39.479
And the way I positioned myself with his shotgun on

1339
01:14:39.560 --> 01:14:41.920
my back, the chaku was kind of pushing me forward

1340
01:14:42.439 --> 01:14:44.920
the way I knelt down, So I scooped back about

1341
01:14:45.039 --> 01:14:49.880
four to six inches maybe before I stood up to

1342
01:14:50.439 --> 01:14:52.720
you know, wait for my turn to get down this bank.

1343
01:14:53.199 --> 01:14:55.479
And as I get up to full standing height, this

1344
01:14:55.680 --> 01:14:59.920
rock a little bigger than a basketball whiz by the

1345
01:15:00.000 --> 01:15:02.439
in front of my face. Had I not scoot it

1346
01:15:02.479 --> 01:15:04.239
back and I just stood up from where I was,

1347
01:15:05.119 --> 01:15:06.439
we wouldn't have this conversation.

1348
01:15:06.560 --> 01:15:06.760
Man.

1349
01:15:07.880 --> 01:15:09.880
As soon as that rock whiz by in front of

1350
01:15:09.880 --> 01:15:13.640
my face, everything went slow motion and my eyes locked

1351
01:15:13.640 --> 01:15:18.840
on that rock, and it impacted about part of the

1352
01:15:18.920 --> 01:15:22.359
river that was about roughly three feet deep fast moving water.

1353
01:15:23.079 --> 01:15:26.760
It impacted so hard that rock hit the bottom and

1354
01:15:26.960 --> 01:15:29.880
sounded like a shotgun blast before the water.

1355
01:15:29.640 --> 01:15:32.800
Could close over it, I mean, pow.

1356
01:15:33.000 --> 01:15:36.079
And as soon as I heard that sound, it was

1357
01:15:36.079 --> 01:15:39.520
like those ear muffs came off and I could hear clearly.

1358
01:15:39.600 --> 01:15:39.920
Again.

1359
01:15:41.279 --> 01:15:44.680
Everything was still quasi slow motion, but I turned the

1360
01:15:44.680 --> 01:15:48.920
direction the rock came from. Now this thing was coming

1361
01:15:48.960 --> 01:15:50.840
out of the tree line fifty yards away.

1362
01:15:52.159 --> 01:15:54.960
We'll be back with more Bigfoot Society after these words

1363
01:15:55.039 --> 01:15:56.760
from our sponsors.

1364
01:16:00.119 --> 01:16:04.279
Rock had to have been in flight before I started

1365
01:16:04.279 --> 01:16:06.880
standing up, you know what I mean.

1366
01:16:07.199 --> 01:16:11.720
It was like anyway, praise.

1367
01:16:11.960 --> 01:16:17.000
I turned and that big black silhouette was coming out

1368
01:16:17.000 --> 01:16:17.960
of the tree line.

1369
01:16:19.239 --> 01:16:20.960
It still wasn't giving anything back.

1370
01:16:21.039 --> 01:16:23.800
I could tell it was moving, but it was like

1371
01:16:23.840 --> 01:16:26.920
it was gliding. And immediately with that thirty odd six,

1372
01:16:27.000 --> 01:16:31.079
I put three rounds center mass, bam, bam, bam, and

1373
01:16:31.119 --> 01:16:36.159
I heard the bullets impact this thing. Now, this thirty

1374
01:16:36.199 --> 01:16:40.319
odd six is a powerful rifle. Anyone who's hunted knows.

1375
01:16:41.079 --> 01:16:44.119
We used the same rifle to kill walrus, bear, moose.

1376
01:16:44.640 --> 01:16:47.560
Everything we've come up against with that rifle, we've killed it.

1377
01:16:48.760 --> 01:16:51.279
This thing took all three rounds and all it It

1378
01:16:51.319 --> 01:16:52.600
didn't flinch or nothing.

1379
01:16:52.640 --> 01:16:56.760
It just stopped moving forward. It just stopped. It didn't

1380
01:16:56.800 --> 01:16:57.880
buckle nothing.

1381
01:16:58.880 --> 01:17:01.039
Well, once I put those three rounds on it and

1382
01:17:01.079 --> 01:17:04.319
they didn't do anything, I was getting this tunnel vision

1383
01:17:04.359 --> 01:17:08.159
going on from the shot. Everything was kind of closing

1384
01:17:08.239 --> 01:17:14.039
in and I turned around. I jumped down because at

1385
01:17:14.039 --> 01:17:17.079
this point my uncle's making his way into the skiff

1386
01:17:17.319 --> 01:17:21.439
and the bow line wasn't cut. My cousin got the

1387
01:17:21.479 --> 01:17:23.399
motor running, but he didn't cut the battle line. So

1388
01:17:23.399 --> 01:17:25.159
I'm yelling at him, throw me the knife, throw me

1389
01:17:25.199 --> 01:17:28.079
the knife. He throws the knife. I set the thirty

1390
01:17:28.079 --> 01:17:29.880
out six into the bow of the skiff, and I'm

1391
01:17:29.920 --> 01:17:33.359
cutting that line, and I'm telling him idle down, idle down,

1392
01:17:33.399 --> 01:17:35.920
because he had it the idol too high to shift

1393
01:17:36.000 --> 01:17:39.119
gears right, and of course it was cold and he

1394
01:17:39.159 --> 01:17:41.479
could only do so much. But you know, it was

1395
01:17:41.520 --> 01:17:43.600
a tense moment, and we're kind of yelling back and forth.

1396
01:17:44.439 --> 01:17:46.760
And as I cut the bower line and I'm putting

1397
01:17:46.760 --> 01:17:48.800
the chin, and my uncle's kind of got his butt

1398
01:17:48.840 --> 01:17:50.760
on the edge and he's kind of turning to shim in.

1399
01:17:50.920 --> 01:17:52.399
I shoved him in.

1400
01:17:53.279 --> 01:17:55.760
I felt bad later because it bruised his wrist pretty bad,

1401
01:17:56.199 --> 01:17:57.279
but I shoved him in.

1402
01:17:58.119 --> 01:18:00.960
And when I.

1403
01:18:01.000 --> 01:18:03.079
Jumped down, I noticed that my cousin hads up my

1404
01:18:03.159 --> 01:18:05.960
shotgun right there on the beach, on this little small

1405
01:18:06.039 --> 01:18:09.479
landing where we had the skid perch, And so in

1406
01:18:09.520 --> 01:18:11.399
my mind's eye, I was gonna grab my shotgun.

1407
01:18:11.439 --> 01:18:12.239
I don't know why.

1408
01:18:12.359 --> 01:18:15.359
I never got an answer why he dropped my shotgun

1409
01:18:15.399 --> 01:18:16.439
on the little beach there.

1410
01:18:16.960 --> 01:18:18.600
But anyway, so I shove my uncle in.

1411
01:18:18.640 --> 01:18:23.359
I'm thinking I'm gonna grab that shotgun, and the chain

1412
01:18:23.439 --> 01:18:25.319
was hanging a little more, so I dumped the rest

1413
01:18:25.319 --> 01:18:28.680
of the chain in there. And as I'm looking at him,

1414
01:18:28.720 --> 01:18:31.760
and I'm still yelling at him, the idol down and

1415
01:18:31.760 --> 01:18:35.159
the idol's down and it ships right, and all of

1416
01:18:35.199 --> 01:18:36.439
a sudden, his eyes.

1417
01:18:36.199 --> 01:18:37.680
Get real big. My uncle.

1418
01:18:37.720 --> 01:18:40.840
When he landed, he turned around and was looking back

1419
01:18:40.840 --> 01:18:43.760
towards the direction of the bank, and they're both looking

1420
01:18:43.880 --> 01:18:45.119
over my shoulder up.

1421
01:18:45.000 --> 01:18:45.560
At the bank.

1422
01:18:46.239 --> 01:18:48.960
And I turned around and as I'm looking up, I

1423
01:18:48.960 --> 01:18:53.079
saw just up to about mid shin Before I realized,

1424
01:18:53.119 --> 01:18:55.600
this thing is towering over me. And I pushed off

1425
01:18:56.399 --> 01:19:00.560
from the shore and he kicks it in gear reverse

1426
01:19:00.640 --> 01:19:03.199
and we start getting up on step to get out

1427
01:19:03.199 --> 01:19:06.840
of there. And when we were leaving, he was kind

1428
01:19:06.840 --> 01:19:09.159
of swaying the skids back and forth, and I thought

1429
01:19:09.159 --> 01:19:11.960
he was just trying to get up on steps. I

1430
01:19:11.960 --> 01:19:13.920
thought he was trying to, you know, break the friction

1431
01:19:14.000 --> 01:19:16.000
of the water to get up on step, you.

1432
01:19:15.960 --> 01:19:16.800
Know, a little sooner.

1433
01:19:17.399 --> 01:19:20.159
But what I found out many years later was he

1434
01:19:20.319 --> 01:19:22.520
wasn't doing it to get on step. He was doing

1435
01:19:22.520 --> 01:19:24.800
it to avoid the rocks that they were throwing at

1436
01:19:24.800 --> 01:19:28.960
the outboard. One rock hit the transom so hard they

1437
01:19:29.000 --> 01:19:34.439
left a partial puncture hole in the transoms, and you know,

1438
01:19:34.560 --> 01:19:36.279
we skipped on out of there.

1439
01:19:36.399 --> 01:19:41.039
And it wasn't gosh.

1440
01:19:41.520 --> 01:19:43.600
I was in the bow and I'm still having this

1441
01:19:43.760 --> 01:19:47.359
bit of everything closing in kind of tunnel vision, and

1442
01:19:47.399 --> 01:19:50.159
I'm looking for the two hundred and twenty grain bullets

1443
01:19:50.239 --> 01:19:54.279
for the thirty odd six that we typically would use

1444
01:19:54.279 --> 01:19:56.880
for bear and what was in it was one hundred

1445
01:19:56.880 --> 01:20:01.119
and eighty grain coloc soft kIPS, the deadliest mushroom in

1446
01:20:01.199 --> 01:20:07.279
the woods up until that point anyway. And we I mean,

1447
01:20:07.279 --> 01:20:11.439
that's basically where the encounter ended. When we got down

1448
01:20:11.560 --> 01:20:15.399
to where the nu Yak Cook and the confluence of

1449
01:20:15.439 --> 01:20:20.720
the Luciaga River met, we finally took a minute to

1450
01:20:20.760 --> 01:20:26.640
take a breather, and immediately I felt like I weighed

1451
01:20:26.640 --> 01:20:30.279
a thousand pounds man from up all night with the

1452
01:20:31.279 --> 01:20:35.359
tense muscles and everything, and finally feeling.

1453
01:20:35.039 --> 01:20:38.479
Like we're we got a weigh.

1454
01:20:38.840 --> 01:20:43.039
I felt like I weighed a thousand pounds and that

1455
01:20:43.039 --> 01:20:47.239
that trip ruined our relationship because when we got back

1456
01:20:47.560 --> 01:20:52.960
to the village, anyone with a pair of ears, I

1457
01:20:53.119 --> 01:20:55.760
was telling them, hey, you know, they tried to get us.

1458
01:20:55.840 --> 01:20:58.720
You know, my uncle cousin were there. You know, I

1459
01:20:58.760 --> 01:21:02.920
was telling anyone who would live. And my uncle was

1460
01:21:02.960 --> 01:21:09.720
in a position at that time where he didn't want

1461
01:21:09.720 --> 01:21:13.720
it made public because of this particular position he had,

1462
01:21:14.479 --> 01:21:19.319
and I pushed the issue I in and burtinly kind

1463
01:21:19.319 --> 01:21:23.399
of did no good to our relationship either by pressing

1464
01:21:23.439 --> 01:21:26.800
it so hard, But because of what had happened, I

1465
01:21:26.840 --> 01:21:30.960
wanted to tell everybody watch out that they tried to

1466
01:21:30.960 --> 01:21:33.920
get us, you know what I mean. And they were

1467
01:21:33.920 --> 01:21:36.600
more wanting to just keep it hush hush and leave

1468
01:21:36.640 --> 01:21:39.880
it where it was. And because of what we went through,

1469
01:21:39.960 --> 01:21:43.359
I just I couldn't not tell somebody and warned them,

1470
01:21:43.760 --> 01:21:48.319
you know, and it ruined our relationship. I was never

1471
01:21:48.359 --> 01:21:51.840
able to fully make amends with my uncle. He since passed,

1472
01:21:52.600 --> 01:21:56.079
and my cousin that was with us. I talked to

1473
01:21:56.199 --> 01:22:01.720
him once and I over the encounter of what I

1474
01:22:01.760 --> 01:22:03.520
remember of it with him, and I asked him, am

1475
01:22:03.520 --> 01:22:05.760
I leaving anything out? And that's when he told me

1476
01:22:06.800 --> 01:22:11.119
that they're throwing rocks at the outboard and out of

1477
01:22:12.359 --> 01:22:17.720
seventeen years we had one fifteen minute conversation since that incident.

1478
01:22:22.720 --> 01:22:23.199
That is.

1479
01:22:25.560 --> 01:22:31.399
That's incredible, Fred, and thank you for putting yourself back

1480
01:22:31.439 --> 01:22:34.439
And that must is that hard to retell that?

1481
01:22:34.880 --> 01:22:36.920
I mean, that's.

1482
01:22:37.960 --> 01:22:42.800
I can't imagine you're easier than others. Yeah, there's Sometimes.

1483
01:22:42.239 --> 01:22:44.960
It doesn't bother me at all, and other times I

1484
01:22:45.000 --> 01:22:48.239
get caught the emotion of it because like it ruined

1485
01:22:49.439 --> 01:22:52.960
my relationship with my family. We were thick as thieves. Man,

1486
01:22:53.000 --> 01:22:55.600
We were three peas in the pod. Us three were

1487
01:22:55.680 --> 01:23:00.319
always the ones on an adventure. Like always it was

1488
01:23:00.439 --> 01:23:03.439
us three were the main ones that if there was

1489
01:23:03.479 --> 01:23:06.800
an adventure to be had, we were on it. And

1490
01:23:07.840 --> 01:23:10.079
since six that all went away.

1491
01:23:13.119 --> 01:23:17.760
Do you do you blame those creatures for for having

1492
01:23:18.319 --> 01:23:20.560
a relationship with your relatives ruined.

1493
01:23:24.880 --> 01:23:28.079
I can't. I can't blame them.

1494
01:23:28.319 --> 01:23:33.880
I blame the high stress and their unwillingness to.

1495
01:23:36.520 --> 01:23:45.760
Like collaborate or or basically back me up, you know

1496
01:23:45.760 --> 01:23:46.640
what I mean, Because I.

1497
01:23:46.520 --> 01:23:49.439
Felt in that moment it was going on, I was

1498
01:23:49.640 --> 01:23:52.399
by myself because my cousin was under the table, my

1499
01:23:52.479 --> 01:23:55.960
uncle wasn't responsive, So it was just a further continuation

1500
01:23:56.079 --> 01:23:59.319
of that. When I got back to the village, you know,

1501
01:23:59.479 --> 01:24:02.880
I was told I was the crazy drunk. I was told, Oh,

1502
01:24:02.920 --> 01:24:05.880
you're just making it up for attention. Like, why in

1503
01:24:05.920 --> 01:24:07.720
the why the hell would I make that up for

1504
01:24:07.800 --> 01:24:11.479
some attention? You know, I mean I gained nothing from that,

1505
01:24:12.119 --> 01:24:14.279
you know what I mean? There there, I gained nothing.

1506
01:24:14.439 --> 01:24:18.399
I lost so much. I have gained nothing from it.

1507
01:24:20.199 --> 01:24:23.319
Have you ever been back to that area or you

1508
01:24:23.520 --> 01:24:24.439
never go back there?

1509
01:24:25.640 --> 01:24:28.439
Uh? No, I want to go back. I want to

1510
01:24:28.439 --> 01:24:29.600
film a documentary.

1511
01:24:30.000 --> 01:24:32.960
And the documentary I want to do is going to

1512
01:24:33.039 --> 01:24:37.920
be a cultural thing with just Native people's on how

1513
01:24:38.000 --> 01:24:41.520
our whole history from the past kind of mats up

1514
01:24:41.560 --> 01:24:45.640
with the present, that type of thing. I haven't fully

1515
01:24:45.680 --> 01:24:49.800
worked it out, but that place is going to be

1516
01:24:50.000 --> 01:24:53.680
the the pinnacle of that documentary, you know what I

1517
01:24:53.760 --> 01:24:57.920
mean That it's going to revolve around that spot.

1518
01:24:59.319 --> 01:25:03.640
But it is a nightmare to get there.

1519
01:25:04.600 --> 01:25:07.479
It was expensive for us, and we lived in Dillingham,

1520
01:25:07.560 --> 01:25:10.159
you know what I mean. So for me to go

1521
01:25:10.199 --> 01:25:12.880
from where I'm at now back to Dillingham for the

1522
01:25:12.920 --> 01:25:16.760
same price, I could go to Hawaii twice.

1523
01:25:17.079 --> 01:25:19.800
Wow. That's wild man.

1524
01:25:20.000 --> 01:25:21.720
Yeah, so's Yeah.

1525
01:25:21.760 --> 01:25:25.039
It's a logistical, logistical thing, and I sure as that

1526
01:25:25.119 --> 01:25:31.359
ain't gone by myself. I need to bring some qualified people.

1527
01:25:31.439 --> 01:25:34.680
Not that my relatives weren't. They were the most qualified

1528
01:25:34.720 --> 01:25:37.760
I could think of, even to this day that I

1529
01:25:37.880 --> 01:25:40.640
know personally. But everyone's different.

1530
01:25:40.880 --> 01:25:41.079
You know.

1531
01:25:43.000 --> 01:25:45.520
I wasn't a hero in that moment when I made

1532
01:25:45.560 --> 01:25:46.800
eye contact with that thing.

1533
01:25:46.880 --> 01:25:48.680
Man, I wasn't.

1534
01:25:48.399 --> 01:25:50.640
Going, oh, I'm going to shoot now, I'm going to

1535
01:25:50.720 --> 01:25:54.520
protect us. No, it was get off me, get you know,

1536
01:25:54.640 --> 01:25:55.159
get off me.

1537
01:25:56.199 --> 01:25:57.920
It was. It was nothing heroic.

1538
01:25:58.039 --> 01:26:01.760
It was self preservation in that moment when I started

1539
01:26:01.800 --> 01:26:06.359
shooting through the wall. Initially my uncle and cousin didn't

1540
01:26:06.359 --> 01:26:09.079
even exist in my mind in that moment. It was

1541
01:26:09.159 --> 01:26:12.439
such a shock to my system. It was like every

1542
01:26:12.520 --> 01:26:15.840
fiber of my being wanted to flee, but it was

1543
01:26:15.880 --> 01:26:19.479
stuck in my skin. It was like an electrical charge,

1544
01:26:19.640 --> 01:26:21.279
like just a shock.

1545
01:26:23.479 --> 01:26:23.640
Hm.

1546
01:26:24.239 --> 01:26:30.800
It's it's probably one of the most intense I would

1547
01:26:30.840 --> 01:26:33.560
say it is the most intense encounter I've ever heard of.

1548
01:26:33.640 --> 01:26:38.399
Fred that that is incredible that you guys actually survived that,

1549
01:26:39.439 --> 01:26:40.760
and thankfully you dead.

1550
01:26:42.159 --> 01:26:42.520
Man.

1551
01:26:43.039 --> 01:26:45.520
Well, yeah, and that's another reason I had the channel.

1552
01:26:45.640 --> 01:26:49.399
I also have a website subarticlaskisasquatch dot Com.

1553
01:26:49.439 --> 01:26:49.920
I have an.

1554
01:26:49.920 --> 01:26:53.640
Interactive map of Alaska and you can zoom in on

1555
01:26:53.720 --> 01:26:57.399
an area and there's marker pins and if you touch

1556
01:26:57.479 --> 01:27:01.560
the marker pin, it's you click on it. It's embedded

1557
01:27:01.600 --> 01:27:04.359
with my YouTube channel, so it'll bring up the encounter

1558
01:27:04.479 --> 01:27:09.079
video from that area. So, fellow Alaskans, are people traveling here,

1559
01:27:09.159 --> 01:27:11.880
can Let's say they're going to Keyna Peninsula. They're going

1560
01:27:11.960 --> 01:27:13.840
to be by ski like lake. Let's say, just as

1561
01:27:13.880 --> 01:27:16.560
an example, they could zoom in on the map, see

1562
01:27:16.560 --> 01:27:19.359
the Ska like lake, touch a pin and they could

1563
01:27:19.640 --> 01:27:22.560
hear and encounter someone that had from that area. Not

1564
01:27:22.720 --> 01:27:26.039
to scare them away, but to make them aware. It's

1565
01:27:26.079 --> 01:27:28.119
like bere aware signs, be aware of the bear.

1566
01:27:28.319 --> 01:27:28.560
You know.

1567
01:27:30.239 --> 01:27:34.039
It frustrates me that so many people have these encounters,

1568
01:27:34.079 --> 01:27:38.039
but yet it's treated like, oh, they're making up a

1569
01:27:38.079 --> 01:27:39.039
story for attention.

1570
01:27:39.640 --> 01:27:39.920
Man.

1571
01:27:40.840 --> 01:27:43.159
No one needs this kind of attention, you know what

1572
01:27:43.159 --> 01:27:46.720
I mean. It's it's not a badge of honor. But

1573
01:27:46.840 --> 01:27:49.439
what drives me is no one asked for it. No

1574
01:27:49.520 --> 01:27:52.399
one asked to be accosted by this big thing out

1575
01:27:52.399 --> 01:27:54.600
in the woods when they're doing their day to day shit.

1576
01:27:55.359 --> 01:27:57.119
No one asked for that, you know what I mean,

1577
01:27:58.079 --> 01:28:02.159
And so I bias though I don't trust him for nothing.

1578
01:28:02.560 --> 01:28:03.800
And when I hear.

1579
01:28:05.560 --> 01:28:08.760
What I consider fanciful, happy go lucky stories about my

1580
01:28:08.840 --> 01:28:17.000
forest friend, I ain't my friend. I could never be

1581
01:28:17.199 --> 01:28:20.720
comfortable with one near me ever again. And I can't

1582
01:28:20.760 --> 01:28:24.119
honestly say that if one wasn't near me, I wouldn't

1583
01:28:24.159 --> 01:28:27.600
just open fire on it. But that's that's my own

1584
01:28:27.720 --> 01:28:33.479
personal bias, and so I leave that out of the

1585
01:28:33.600 --> 01:28:36.159
encounters I share from people. I just share what they

1586
01:28:36.199 --> 01:28:38.359
shared with me. I don't put a spin on it.

1587
01:28:38.479 --> 01:28:41.479
I just I give what I was given, you know

1588
01:28:41.520 --> 01:28:44.720
what I mean, and I leave my personal bias out

1589
01:28:44.720 --> 01:28:44.960
of it.

1590
01:28:45.720 --> 01:28:46.880
There is a guy Dad.

1591
01:28:47.680 --> 01:28:50.159
He shared an experience where he was rescued by a

1592
01:28:50.239 --> 01:28:54.039
female near the Golkana river back when he was ten,

1593
01:28:55.079 --> 01:28:57.239
and I asked him. I was like, man, that's pretty cool.

1594
01:28:57.239 --> 01:29:00.000
I haven't heard anything positive, so you know, how to

1595
01:29:00.079 --> 01:29:03.800
did you feel? And his words were, I felt like

1596
01:29:03.880 --> 01:29:06.479
they were trying to get rid of me because of

1597
01:29:06.520 --> 01:29:09.840
the search and rescue efforts. They had helicopters, small planes,

1598
01:29:10.439 --> 01:29:13.319
you know, the troopers out in mass looking for it,

1599
01:29:13.479 --> 01:29:16.319
and he said he didn't feel good about it. He

1600
01:29:16.399 --> 01:29:20.079
felt like they're getting rid of the nuisance versus really

1601
01:29:20.119 --> 01:29:20.920
being helpful.

1602
01:29:23.800 --> 01:29:27.920
Wow, this has been an incredible conversation.

1603
01:29:28.159 --> 01:29:28.560
Fred.

1604
01:29:28.960 --> 01:29:33.800
As we start to head towards the end of our

1605
01:29:33.840 --> 01:29:40.920
time together, do you have any words for people that

1606
01:29:41.199 --> 01:29:43.319
might be thinking, you know, I'm going to go out,

1607
01:29:43.760 --> 01:29:48.119
I'm going to find a big foot this weekend. Do

1608
01:29:48.159 --> 01:29:53.800
you have any many words of advice of how they

1609
01:29:53.840 --> 01:29:56.319
should maybe change their thinking a little bit.

1610
01:29:58.279 --> 01:30:01.000
I would say, be careful of what you wish for. Uh.

1611
01:30:03.000 --> 01:30:07.239
And it's not going to be what you think it's not.

1612
01:30:07.640 --> 01:30:12.560
It's not going to be harmonious whatever may be.

1613
01:30:12.640 --> 01:30:17.079
Going through your mind. Don't don't go in naive.

1614
01:30:17.439 --> 01:30:20.279
They're they're not our in my now, this is my opinion,

1615
01:30:21.119 --> 01:30:25.600
they're not our forest friends. Uh. And I can only

1616
01:30:25.760 --> 01:30:28.239
speak for Alaska because I know it's different down in

1617
01:30:28.279 --> 01:30:32.159
the States. There's a different level of aggression. H Just

1618
01:30:32.199 --> 01:30:36.720
be careful what you wish for. You you don't want

1619
01:30:36.840 --> 01:30:42.199
what you think you do, You really don't. There's there's

1620
01:30:42.239 --> 01:30:52.640
a level of understanding that you're lacking, and you don't

1621
01:30:52.680 --> 01:30:57.840
want that. Nothing good is going to come of it.

1622
01:30:58.920 --> 01:31:01.680
There's so many people that I've had encounters who had

1623
01:31:01.720 --> 01:31:05.640
a camera in their hand and did nothing with the camera.

1624
01:31:05.720 --> 01:31:06.760
They were so in shot.

1625
01:31:07.560 --> 01:31:10.800
If you have a weak heart, be prepared because you

1626
01:31:10.880 --> 01:31:15.640
may need a defense. It's not what you think it's

1627
01:31:15.680 --> 01:31:18.720
going to be. It's not going to be that exciting.

1628
01:31:18.359 --> 01:31:24.880
Oh yay moment. No, it is life altering, terrifying.

1629
01:31:26.880 --> 01:31:27.359
Some wise.

1630
01:31:27.359 --> 01:31:33.439
Words from someone who has had multiple encounters themselves. Fred,

1631
01:31:33.600 --> 01:31:36.960
thank you so much for coming on and sharing what

1632
01:31:37.079 --> 01:31:39.720
has happened to you. Do you mind taking a few

1633
01:31:39.760 --> 01:31:43.159
more minutes and sharing with people how they can keep

1634
01:31:43.239 --> 01:31:48.000
up to date with Subarctic Alaska sasquatch and what's the

1635
01:31:48.039 --> 01:31:48.840
best way to do that?

1636
01:31:51.119 --> 01:31:55.079
Well, yeah, I mean I have a couple of email accounts.

1637
01:31:55.159 --> 01:31:58.239
They could easily be found in the description of the channel.

1638
01:31:58.800 --> 01:32:02.159
I leave my phone number, and you know, people can

1639
01:32:02.199 --> 01:32:03.479
contact me that way.

1640
01:32:03.800 --> 01:32:06.000
During daylight hours Alaska.

1641
01:32:06.319 --> 01:32:09.000
If you're on the East coast, I'm four hours behind,

1642
01:32:09.159 --> 01:32:12.000
so you know, wherever you may be, just keep that

1643
01:32:12.039 --> 01:32:16.199
in mind. I've gotten calls at you know, three in

1644
01:32:16.239 --> 01:32:19.159
the morning and at seven am someone's having their coffee

1645
01:32:19.159 --> 01:32:20.840
and they're waking me up, you know, just to ask

1646
01:32:20.880 --> 01:32:23.520
some questions. I don't mind the questions. I put my

1647
01:32:23.600 --> 01:32:28.000
number out there for a reason. But I'm easy to find. Man,

1648
01:32:28.279 --> 01:32:32.560
I'm really not hard. You know Alaskan Hairyman Project at

1649
01:32:32.560 --> 01:32:36.359
gmail dot com or No. Comp nine O seven at

1650
01:32:36.399 --> 01:32:40.000
gmail dot com, or you know my phone number which

1651
01:32:40.039 --> 01:32:43.439
is listed in the opening of my most current videos.

1652
01:32:43.479 --> 01:32:48.800
So I'm easy to find, and I upload content when

1653
01:32:48.840 --> 01:32:52.079
I can. I live in Alaska, so I'm in winter

1654
01:32:52.239 --> 01:32:56.039
prep mode and you know, I got background stuff going on.

1655
01:32:56.279 --> 01:33:00.279
But I'm very easy to find. You know, if if

1656
01:33:00.319 --> 01:33:03.119
an eighty something, you old woman in New Orleans can

1657
01:33:03.359 --> 01:33:04.960
find me, then anyone can.

1658
01:33:06.279 --> 01:33:06.840
There you go.

1659
01:33:06.960 --> 01:33:12.399
Man, it is incredible the type of people that find

1660
01:33:13.279 --> 01:33:17.079
people like us. I totally agree with that, but we

1661
01:33:17.119 --> 01:33:19.520
appreciate it. And a Fred thank you so much for

1662
01:33:19.560 --> 01:33:21.760
coming on. I hope to be talking to you again

1663
01:33:21.840 --> 01:33:25.000
sometime in the future. But keep doing what you're doing.

1664
01:33:25.039 --> 01:33:28.279
Man, Yeah, I appreciate it. Man.

1665
01:33:28.359 --> 01:33:31.079
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1666
01:33:31.199 --> 01:33:34.680
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1667
01:33:34.720 --> 01:33:38.239
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1668
01:33:38.279 --> 01:33:41.279
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1669
01:33:41.319 --> 01:33:44.560
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1670
01:33:44.560 --> 01:33:48.800
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1671
01:33:48.840 --> 01:33:50.439
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1672
01:33:50.359 --> 01:33:51.359
Wherever you can.

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If you've had a Bigfoot encounter related to the following,

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or know someone who has, please reach out to me

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at big for Society, a chamiled or pass on my email.

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Here's the list.

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If you've had any encounters in Oregon, which I'm sure

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there's probably a few of you out there, please feel

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free to reach out immediately. You can use email Bigfoot

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Society at gmail dot com. A special thank you to

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all the Bigfoot Society, Patreon and YouTube channel members. It's

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your support that helps keep the show going and I

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extremely appreciate it. If you want to join in the fun,

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you can join over at Patreon dot com forward slash

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the Bigfoot Society. I'll see you there, and again, thanks

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for listening.