Horrifying Bigfoot Tales of Prince of Wales Island, Alaska (Archive Episode)

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Welcome to the Bigfoot Society. In
this episode, I open up the archives

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and share two different interviews about Prince
of Wales Island area of southeast Alaska.

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episodes every single week. And now
let's get on with the show. I've

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got the privilege of chatting with Alex, and Alex is a retired Salvation Army

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pastor that served in Alaska. How
are you doing tonight, Alex? Doing

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well yourself? Oh, I'm doing
great, Just hanging out on nice Iowa

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night. Alex, How are you
doing doing well? Just enjoying this Montana

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whether it's a little cold, a
little bit snowy out here, but it's

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nice. Oh. You know,
I've talked to a few from Montana,

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and I know we're not talking about
Montana tonight, but man, there's some

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crazy Montana Bigfoot things happening. It's
wild state. I've heard some stuff.

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I've heard a couple of stories from
and I've had the privilege to meet a

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few of the Crow and Cheyenne people
and I've had a chance to chat with

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them about Bigfoot, and I've heard
some pretty pretty crazy stories about it.

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But tonight, Alex, we are
here to first chat about So. I

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met you on TikTok for a little
bit of context, and you've had some

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interesting things happen during your time in
Alaska, and also some interesting things you've

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heard as well, and I would
love to have you share those with my

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listeners tonight, if you don't mind, I don't mind. Let's just get

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started, uh right. I went
to the Style Army there. I was

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stationed there. I was a pastor. I would be what you would call

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a lay pastor, which in their
rank. The Salvation Army has quasi army

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ranks, so like the officers are
called captains or lieutenants or majors, and

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I, as a lay pastor,
wasn't one of those, so I would

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have been called an envoy, so
that would have been my title. But

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I ran the klook church from June
of twenty ten to June of twenty twelve.

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And the really crazy part is when
I first went there, I didn't

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know anything about south southeast Alaska.
I didn't know anything about Prince of Wales

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Island where Klowok is located. Klawok
and Prince of Wales are about three hours

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by ferry south of Ketchikan. Southeast
of Ketchikan, and they are about forty

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five minutes by plane, and the
only way to get out to the island

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is either by a ferry boat or
plane. So when I got off the

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boat, I met the captains who
were who were leaving. They were the

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ones who'd been running the church the
past few years, and they were leaving

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and moving on to Wrangle, Alaska. As soon as I got in the

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van, the captain, without knowing
me or knowing anything, says to me.

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He said, Alex, let me
tell you something. He said that

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this is something you'll need to know. He said that the people here take

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bigfoot very seriously, like dead serious. He said, they'll talk to you

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about Bigfoot. If you make fun
of bigfoot, or if you make light

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of it, he said, you'll
offend people in the community and he said,

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you'll never you will have a really
hard time in this community. It'll

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cause hard feelings. Never knew this
guy, never met him, never discussed

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bigfoot, didn't know anything about anything. And the instant I get in the

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van, that's the first thing he
tells me. He said that these these

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folks are really serious about Bigfoot here
on Prince of Wales and so I just

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thought that was crazy right from the
gate. You know, because generally,

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if you walk up to someone you've
never met and tell them that you know

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Bigfoot is real and that the people
in the local area take bigfoot very seriously,

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you might get one of two responses
that well, okay, or you

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know something. A lot of skeptics
will be derisive. They'll be nasty or

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negative or make sarcastic comments. And
Captain Ron said very clearly, don't do

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that here. And he said,
if they talk to you about Bigfoot,

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just smile, listen to what they
say, and just say thank you for

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letting me know, and don't don't
blow it off. So that was my

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introduction to Bigfoot on Prince of Wales
Island. I knew bigfoot was real because

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I had an experience with it when
I was a kid. I actually saw

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one looking in my window was now
Bino Bigfoot back in nineteen seventy eight in

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the River Oregon. So I knew
Bigfoot was real. They didn't have to

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tell me about it. But Captain
Ron didn't know me from Adam, didn't

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know anything about Bigfoot, didn't know
about my history with Bigfoot. But so

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I learned right away that the people
on Prince of Wales are the people that

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I interacted with were the Clinket,
the Haida, and the Simschean, and

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there were even some you pick folks
and you pick or my tribe. My

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father on my father's side, his
mother was you picked Alaska Native. As

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I was going along there and doing
my duties in the Salvation Army, I

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had people sharing reports with me and
things like that. One of the things

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that particularly impressed me about them is
I was told by one of their culture

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bearers. Now I don't have permission
to use her name, so I won't,

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but she told me their stories about
Bigfoot, and they believe in the

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Clinket tribe, at least in Klawok. I don't know about the Clinkett tribe

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in general, because I had very
limited interactions with Clinkets from outside of Klok

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that they believe that Bigfoot led their
people to what is now Klawock, and

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that it showed them how to hunt, and that Bigfoot showed them how to

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live on the island. And so
they actually have Bigfoot in their family history,

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really in their clan history. One
of the tribes in particular, especially

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the one one this woman is with. If I tried to pronounce her tribal

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name, I would completely slaughter it. So I'm really not going to try

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to, but suffice it to say
that Bigfoot is a part of that tribe,

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and it's in the name of their
tribe, their particular tribe or tribe

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in the Clinkett nation, And so
I thought that was very interesting. I

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really didn't meet anybody in Klawok or
Prince of Wales who hadn't either had a

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sighting directly or knew someone in their
immediate family who had a sighting. And

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I talked to many different people out
there in the Twinkets. Now on Klawok,

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there's a bit of a thing because
a lot of people think that this

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Kushtaka is a Bigfoot. Now from
what I was told by a tribal elder

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from Saxman, which is in Ketchikan. He said that the Kushtaka is like

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a is like the skin walker.
It's an evil spirit, a shape shifter.

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And in Clinkett Kushtaka means land otter
man, and so it's it's very

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interesting. But according to Captain Joe
and some of the elders from when we

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had celebration in Klok one year,
they had a gathering of the other Clinkets

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from around southeast Alaska and they all
came and they were saying that the tribal

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elders from several of the different areas
like in you know, Juno and some

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of the other cities around in southeast
Alaska like Sitka and some of the other

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places, they said the Kushtaka is
not a bigfoot. They said it's an

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evil spirit or a spirit, and
it can be benevolent or harmful depending on

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its feelings at the time. But
they said it's not biological. It's never

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been human, and it doesn't have
older and it doesn't reproduce, and it

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doesn't you know, propagate or do
anything that the bigfoot do. And so

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anyway, now the folks in Khawak
do call bigfoot kushtaka and they they believe

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that khushtaka is bigfoot. But I
know in, I know in, like

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I said, meeting with the other
tribal elders, they felt differently about it.

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So I'll just say that it is
what it is, but that that

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was the understanding that I had from
different folks. The funny thing though about

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this Kushtaka, though, was is
this tribal elder from Saxonon told me that

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they're always seen with orbs and spiritual
phenomenon and they are the things that people

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see that travel interer dimensionally. And
he said that they can appear as bigfoot,

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they can take on form of bigfoot, but he said they're not bigfoots.

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And he said that he feels and
this was his opinion that a lot

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of the people who see like quote
unquote UFOs or orbs or other spiritual bigfoot

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are actually seeing a shape shifter.
Whether that's true or not, I don't

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know. I'm not a clinket.
I don't speak for them. I can

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only tell you what their tribal holders
told me. Alex. I've got a

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quick question for you that that is
extremely fascinating, And I was not expecting

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any of that at all. When
you said spiritual phenomenon, right, or

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phenomena, you said orbs and spiritual
phenomena, what else would fall into that

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category. One person related to me
as sighting of this koushtaka in Ketchikan,

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and they said that it hit You've
seen the movie Predator, right, sure,

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how the Predator goes invisible? They
said, it did that really acoustica

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acushta kav And they said that it
looked like like a part odd part man,

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is what they said that. They
said it shifted into like a fish

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and jumped into the water like a
salmon, like a really large salmon and

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jumped into the water. But they
said that it had orbs floating around it,

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and it said that they the orbs
were glowing different colors. And I

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think that actually, and I'm not
saying all UFO phenomenon, but I think

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some of the UFO phenomenon associated with
bigfoot are actually the spiritual orbs that these

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shape shifters are able to manifest.
And my understanding is they can actually travel

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in between dimensions, is what they
tell me. So I think that when

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people see a bigfoot that's traveling interdimensionally, I don't think that's a big foot,

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And it's not only them that say
that. I've talked to Navajos Zuni's

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Hopies Sue, I've talked to Crow, I've talked to Cheyenne, I've talked

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to Utes. I know as a
Yupik person, we have a legend of

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the Amakuk, which is the same
type of creature. It's also associated with

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spiritual phenomenon like orbs appearing and disappearing, like you would follow the footprints of

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it, for example, and it
would go in a straight line, and

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it would travel for so long,
and then it would just stop and it

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has nowhere to go. Have you
ever been in talked to any individuals by

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the u Inta basein part of Utah? I have not, to my knowledge,

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No, I have not in that's
the Skinwalker Ranch. So just a

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random thing I wanted to throw in
there, just in case. But it's

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just very interesting to me about all
these different things. But like the actual

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bigfoot in Prince of Wales are different
here than I think in the lower forty

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eight because they now I've heard of
bigfoot doing this in other places, but

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I've never actually seen it personally in
Klawok and in Heidelberg and Casan and Thorne

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Bay and Whale Pass and Kaufman Cove
and some of the other cities on Prince

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of Wales. They've actually been witnessed
by locals the Bigfoot, the real Bigfoot,

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not the Kooshtaka, the actual,
honest to god Sasquatch. They've been

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observed pulling trees up by the roots
out of the ground that are like alive,

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pulling them out of the ground and
then turning them upside down and shoving

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them like three to four feet into
the ground with the roots facing up toward

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the sky. And the Plinket elders
told me they do that to mark their

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territory and that if you see that, you know that's their territory and you're

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supposed to leave and not go around
there, because they said if you do,

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they'll they'll get really aggressive with you. They'll like throw rocks, they'll

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throw sticks. But if you don't
leave, then there's actually been reports of

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them like grabbing a hold of people
and throwing them against trees and hurting them

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and stuff like that. Incredible reports
from people who were like police officers,

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former military, you know, people
who aren't known in the community to be

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liars, hoaxers, or storytellers.
They don't drugs or alcohol. They're not

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mentally incapacitated or ill. They're just
people who saw something really crazy that they

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couldn't explain. How many toes do
the Bigfoot have on each foot in that

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area? Do you know? The
track I saw had five? Okay?

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Do you know if there's any is
it talked about in that area of certain

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individuals. I've heard of foes I've
heard. I've heard of the four toed

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Bigfoot. Okay, so you know
what I do. I also heard they

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were reddish in color, and they
were smaller than the regular Bigfoot, and

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they were like way more aggressive is
what I was Alex, this is world,

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this is wild. Yeah, they
are hyper, hyper aggressive. They

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are actually called cannibal. If they
catch you in the forest, they will

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kill you and eat you. And
a lot of natives believe that that particular

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tribe of Bigfoot are responsible for people
disappearing in like national forests and stuff like

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that in Alaska. And it's just
it's really really interesting stuff. And by

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it's really funny because science is always
saying there's no evidence for Bigfoot and things

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like that, and yet you have
native tribes who I've personally interacted with uh

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in Canada, like the Ojibwas and
others, and you would you know,

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some of the other First Nations and
in Canada who are geographically separated from you

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know, these other natives and like
the south southwest of the US, like

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in UH, the Navajo and like
Arizona and New Mexico and places like that.

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And yet they have the same legends
of the same creatures, and they

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have them right alongside eagle bear,
you know, horse beaver, you know,

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scorpion snake, and you know,
they're actually reporting on creatures that they

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see in real life. The two
natives. Bigfoot is as real as you

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and I. And you know,
they're always they're always like they always think

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it's funny, the natives I've talked
to, because I'll talk to them about

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Bigfoot and they're like, oh,
the white man believes in that now,

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huh. You know, it's like
we've been knowing about that for years old

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news to us. Yeah, they're
like, these white scientists come around here

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looking for Bigfoot and we tell them
they're stupid. And I'm like, okay,

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why And they said, because if
Bigfoot wants to find you. He'll

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find you. You don't find Bigfoot, he finds you, you know,

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and stuff like that. I know
that the Plank has told their kids to

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stay out of the forest and rust
they're together, and to be careful when

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they're walking in the woods, to
use the buddy system, and to make

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sure that they're always watching the area
that they live in, especially if those

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those weird red reddish colored hair colored
sasquatch are running around. So Alex,

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the crazy thing is is that and
I have to be really careful about what

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I say. But I talked to
a lot of people, and all the

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things you said about those those four
toad big I've heard from at least one

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other person in another state, not
Alaska. And it's not just like you

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are absolutely right, because I've heard
this same almost details told that they happen

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in even down to pulling up the
tree by the roots and putting it upside

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down. And that's all I can
say right now. It's just incredible how

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you your story had so many similarities. Do you think those that four Toad

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tribe is in different states or just
in the Pacific Northwest or I think they

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emigrated across the lamp bearing straight land
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Sure, I'm almost wondering, based
on the descriptions that people have given

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me, if maybe they're not some
throwback to the orangutan or something. Some

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of the people I've heard described them
in a way that almost makes them sound

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like orangutans. And it's also interesting
because a lot of people they think orangutans

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are these, you know, calm
and peaceful apes, and yet orangutans will

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grab a hold of, you know, other animals, ripped them apart and

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eat them, you know, even
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that's that's just the thing is that
I've heard a lot of bad reports and

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from what I understand this that red
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some tribe. I was talking to
a guy who was Hoopa and he said,

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there's o mah Oma or Oma and
he said that means the boss of

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the woods, like the boss,
the king of the woods, the owner

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of the woods, the leader of
the woods or whatever. He said,

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the Omahs are different than those guys. And he said that the Oma will

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leave you alone if you leave them
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and he had a name for them, but I do not. I could

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not pronounce that. I'm very sorry. I guess my linguistic skills are a

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little weird. But he pronounced it, and my ear and my mouth just

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could not. My brain and my
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No problem. If any listeners know
of that name, feel free to

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send me an email at Big for
Society at gmail dot com. So much

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stuff I learned in Klook. And
then there's my own sighting in Klok.

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I didn't actually have a personal sighting
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happened. If you want, I'll
get into my sighting real quick and other

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stuff after. If you like it
or not, sure, Okay. My

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brother Morgan and my sister Tara.
My brother Morgan passed away three years ago.

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I really wish that he was still
alive, because he could tell you,

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like what he saw and some of
the stuff he observed that I didn't

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observe during the event. But what
happened was we were going up Big Sall

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Road, Big Salt Lake Road in
that's a road that leads from from Klok

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to Thorne Bay or to Coffman Cove. If you go right, you go

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to Thorn Bay. If you go
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So I turned left on Prince of
Wales Island Road and we were heading towards

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Kaufman Cove, which is where we
were kind of go and visit. It's

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really pretty out there. There's a
pebble beach and it's really nice, and

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I wanted to take my brother and
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And so anyway, we get about
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mile or so up up the road
Prince of Wales Island Road, and my

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brother's diabetic, so he's like,
Alex, can you stop. I got

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to use the restroom. And so
I'm looking for a place to pull off,

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and I see what it looks like. It was either like an old

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logging road or something. I'm not
sure, but it was like it looked

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like at one time it had been
a logging road that it hadn't been used

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in a while. And so we
pulled off into there and he gets out

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and he's urinating, and then he
comes back around the corner and he goes,

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hey, Alex, come here,
and I'm like, what, man,

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it's cold. You know, it's
April. It's cold. There's snow

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on the ground. I don't want
to get out, you know, but

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he's like, come here, you
need to look at this. And so

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I'm like okay, and I get
out and he calls me over. I

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walk over to him and in a
snow bank there were three tracks. And

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the tracks were about i'd say,
roughly about five feet apart, and they

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were in a straight line, which
is weird, you know, because when

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people walk, they walk, you
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you know what I mean. These
looked like somebody who was balancing on

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a pyrope or something. It was
weird. But there was tracks, and

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they were in the snow. The
ground is hard, so it didn't leave

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like it did leave an impression,
but it didn't leave like like a deep

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impression. The tracks were about I
have. I wear a size fourteen triple

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le and these were a couple inches
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a sixteen or seventeen, and it's
feet were whiter than mine. Somebody asked

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me about how big I thought it
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I am not a math person.
Okay, math is actually my worst subject.

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So I say, well, I
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inches. When I told Morgan that, he was like, you idiot,

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like, those things were like six seven

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inches apart, and they were sub
six seven inches wide. It's like they're

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not three to four inches, idiot, you know. And he was bestin

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at me. So that's that's one
of the reasons why I was glad he

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was there because I have I have
a real problem with like looking at something

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and reckoning how big it is,
you know, and he doesn't. Morgan

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is very mathematical. He you know, was very logical and factual, and

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so he guess the shoe was a
sixteen or a seven. It would have

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been if it were wearing shoes,
the foot would have been like a sixteen

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or a seventeen. And it was
wider than my triple lead. And so

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we're looking at it and we're like, Morgan had pictures of it, but

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unfortunately when he passed away, the
pictures were lost and I don't have any

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photos loved of them. But the
other part was we got chased out before

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we could do any measurement or anything
because he was like, he told me,

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he said, why don't you do
that big foot screen that you do,

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and so I did it, and
I'm not going to do it right

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now because it would like blow our
audio out. But it's it's just a

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basic screen. I did that,
and then about twenty thirty in ten twenty

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thirty, I don't know, seconds
later, something grabs a hold of a

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big old tree and starts taking that
sucker back and forth. It was whipping

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it back and forth. And that
was a good sized tree. Whatever was

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grabbing a hold of that tree,
it was monstrously strong, monstrously strong.

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And then like we start hearing like
you know, branches breaking and stuff like

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that. And then off to my
right i'd say about ten or twenty feet

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away, I hear a woha and
then then again it goes real loud,

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and just like that scared the living
piss out of me. And whatever vocalization

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that thing was doing, I could
feel it in my body. It resonated

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in my body, you know what
I mean. And it was like,

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I was like, we need to
get the hell out of here now,

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and then so we all jump in
the van, get out, feel out

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of there, and I head straight
back to the church. I'm done.

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You know. I saw a bigfoot
when I was a kid, you know,

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it'd be interesting to see another one. But let's not say we did.

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Right. But when we get back, Morgan tells me he actually saw

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one peeking its head out from behind
a tree. He said it was it

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had it had a very large head, he said it had. It was

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black. The skin on the face
was black, and the hair was black,

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and it had like brownish eyes.
And he said he saw it for

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about a second or two when it
popped back behind the tree. And he

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said it was probably about seven to
eight feet off the ground where the head

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was. And that's pretty much the
experience we had with that. Now,

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I went back and I talked to
one of the Clinkett elders. His name

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is al Jackson, and I actually
do have permission to use his name on

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Prince of Wales. They call him
mister Bigfoot. Whenever anybody in any of

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the tribes has a big foot sighting, they go and tell Al Jackson about

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it. Anyway, he was featured
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They actually interviewed him for that.
That was I don't remember what year

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that was. It was twenty eleven, twenty twelve, twenty ten. I

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can't remember, But anyway, he
was on that show and they interviewed him

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and he took him up there up
on Klawok Mountain where those upside down trees

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aren't and he showed the guy and
the guy actually took pictures of him and

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videoed him. And the thing that's
weird about those trees on Klook there's no

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rope marks, chain marks, nothing, and that's that's not something that's you

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know, like a flood or something
happened and you know, or a windstorm

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and that just happened, because there's
actually out in that area. There's a

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bunch of them, and you know
they're in kind of weird places. But

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like if you see those and you're
out in the forest in in uh near

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near Klook Mountain, if you see
those are around Klook or Heidelberg, if

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you see those trees, you're supposed
to leave the area and not going near

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there. You're not supposed to hunt
there, you're not supposed to fish there,

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and you're not to go around there. And the elders also said that

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if you see a bigfoot out there, they said, don't look them in

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the face because they take it like
you're trying to challenge them and they said,

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don't look in in the eye,
look down to your right or your

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left, and they said just back
away slowly. And there's just so many

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stories I heard about Bigfoot. It's
just crazy. I mean, I never

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met a people who were so open
to share their culture and their stories and

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their traditions with an outsider to their
tribe. Because they would just tell you

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stuff. I mean, and they
didn't like try to hide it or you

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know, it wasn't they had stories
that they wouldn't tell people obviously, but

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like if it was about Bigfoot or
about their clans or their totems or you

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know, the stuff they believe in
spiritually, they tell you all about it.

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You know. We we had a
lady who was a culture bearer who

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was a good friend of my wife
and I. We used to go over

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there and listen to her tell tales
about their creation stories. And it's kind

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of funny because their stories are very
similar to other tribal stories I've heard about

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creation. Do those stories have anything
to do with Bigfoot? Absolutely? Really?

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Mm hm wow, He's one of
the big Feet, one of the

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big people in their in their belief
system. I don't want to say mythology,

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because sure, that's actually real.
They actually talk about stuff that they

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really observe about in nature. Now, you know, people will take it

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or believe it or disbelieve it.
To a skeptic, everything's a dude in

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the suit, or you know,
a misidentified black bear or a brown bear

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or something like that, because to
a skeptic, no amount of evidence other

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than a physical body. Well,
even if you brought them a physical body,

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they might not accept it as evidence. You know, they might say,

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oh, people just made that up. That's stupid. To a person

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who really doesn't want to hear the
subject, there's nothing you can say to

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convince them that, you know,
to to a skeptic, everything's a dude

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in the suit. And I told
a skeptic one time. I told him,

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I said, so, if everybody's
a dude in the suit, you're

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telling me that these there's some society
of hoaxers who've been jumping out on Native

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Americans since time immemorial. You're in
North America, Alaska, China, Russia,

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Asia, you know, Australia.
You know, there's a society of

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hoaxers around the world who are wearing
suits and jumping out in monkey suits and

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scaring people for the last thousand,
two thousand and three thousand hour many years.

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You know what I mean. I
said, either that's what you're saying

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it has to be, or there
is actually a real living creature that's out

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there right now today we're roaming the
forests of different countries around the world and

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people are seeing it and either they're
all liars and poaxers, or it's true

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and there's something to it. Now, do I believe every single bigfoot story?

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No, I do not. But
you can usually tell if somebody has

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really had a big foot sighting because
they have tells, you know what I

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mean. One of the things that
I watch people is their eyes. People

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who've really seen something, you can
see it their eyes, You know what

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I mean. What is it that's
nice to see in their eyes? Trauma?

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Yep, somebody who's really seen a
bigfoot up close and personal. Not

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you know, somebody who's seen it
like, you know, seventy five one

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hundred yards away and they're looking at
it through a scope or a pair of

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binoculars or something. I'm talking about
like somebody like me, as a kid

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who saw an albino bigfoot looking in
his window and was three to four feet

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from it. You know, But
like I said to a skeptic, everything's

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of e in the suit or a
bear. You mentioned how you've seen the

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look of trauma in someone who's actually
seen a Bigfoot up close. Is that

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a look that you would see often
in that flook area people have had an

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upfis in personal experience? Yes,
yeah, absolutely, It changes you.

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It also shreds your brain. Imagine
as a seven year old kid looking out

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your window and seeing something looking in
at you that science, religion, and

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all the other people out there say
doesn't exist. In one fell swoop,

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your brain now questions everything because if
Bigfoot exists, nothing is off the table.

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Because I've heard as a kid growing
up, I'd heard stories about bigfoot.

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But I put that in the same
place as unicorns, trolls, elves,

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you know, rainbow right stuff,
you know that kind of stuff.

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Okay, that's where I put bigfoot. But when you look out your window

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and you see one of those centers
looking in at you, you're done,

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and that changes you. Literally.
They actually have done brain scans on people

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who've passed polygraphs and stuff for Bigfoot, and they have a different response in

403
00:36:21.599 --> 00:36:28.039
their brain to processing information than people
who have not seen one, and they

404
00:36:28.079 --> 00:36:36.400
have a strong trauma response when they
talk about it, and that is something

405
00:36:36.440 --> 00:36:43.599
you can't fake. I mean people, if somebody tells me they've seen a

406
00:36:43.639 --> 00:36:47.760
bigfoot, I just look them in
the eye, and I do if they're

407
00:36:47.800 --> 00:36:52.599
smiling, if they're laughing, you
know, if they're just like, you

408
00:36:52.639 --> 00:36:57.519
know, not taking it seriously.
I don't listen to anything they say.

409
00:36:58.400 --> 00:37:01.800
I saw a guy who was a
a Navy seal. I kid you,

410
00:37:01.840 --> 00:37:07.679
not a guy I met who was
a Navy seal. Okay, he had

411
00:37:07.719 --> 00:37:14.039
his D two fourteens, his military
ID. All of that. He told

412
00:37:14.079 --> 00:37:15.079
me. He said, I was
a Navy seal, and he said,

413
00:37:15.119 --> 00:37:21.039
seeing an fing bigfoot change my life
forever, he said, because now,

414
00:37:21.159 --> 00:37:22.280
he said, I used to go
in the forest all the time. I

415
00:37:22.360 --> 00:37:28.559
used to hunt fishpike. I can't
do that anymore, he said, because

416
00:37:28.920 --> 00:37:32.760
that scared me so bad, he
said. He said I was in Vietnam.

417
00:37:35.000 --> 00:37:37.880
He said, I faced every type
of human and animal. You can

418
00:37:37.920 --> 00:37:42.199
show me. He said, I
fought bears, I fought people. He

419
00:37:42.239 --> 00:37:45.280
said, I fought wolves, tigers, lions, all kinds of stuff.

420
00:37:46.000 --> 00:37:52.159
And he said, there's nothing that
scared me like that Bigfoot And for a

421
00:37:52.199 --> 00:37:57.159
guy who was a Navy seal to
say something like that, that's telling you

422
00:37:57.199 --> 00:38:01.400
something about Bigfoot. Did you mention
where he had seen that bigfoot area?

423
00:38:01.480 --> 00:38:06.760
Yeah, near Pike's Peak in Colorado. The first thing is, you know

424
00:38:06.920 --> 00:38:12.760
you in that Klowok area everyone has
either seen or knows someone that has seen

425
00:38:12.840 --> 00:38:17.519
Bigfoot. Is there are there stories
that are always passed around in that area

426
00:38:17.599 --> 00:38:27.079
as like the ultimate yeah in counter
slash story like this story proves that they're

427
00:38:27.159 --> 00:38:31.400
out there. Anything that the story
you kept hearing over and over and over

428
00:38:31.519 --> 00:38:38.880
again referred to, there was one
and it was told to me. I

429
00:38:38.960 --> 00:38:45.800
actually Al Jackson introduced me to two
ten people. Again he's mister Bigfoot.

430
00:38:46.280 --> 00:38:54.280
He's a clinket elder, and he
introduced me to these guys and they all

431
00:38:54.320 --> 00:39:00.199
told the same story that they had
a bigfoot walk out. There was a

432
00:39:00.239 --> 00:39:07.679
cedar mill on the outskirts of Klok
where they processed cedar wood and stuff like

433
00:39:07.760 --> 00:39:13.000
that, and they had a bigfoot
walk right through the middle of the factory

434
00:39:13.239 --> 00:39:19.880
or the sawmill, excuse me,
and it was howling, letting out this

435
00:39:19.920 --> 00:39:23.480
horrible screech. It scared them so
bad they wouldn't go back there again to

436
00:39:23.599 --> 00:39:30.639
work for like a month. And
these these were people in the community who

437
00:39:30.639 --> 00:39:38.159
were well known in the community as
honest, god fearing people who are not

438
00:39:38.320 --> 00:39:44.800
hoaxers, not pranksters, not liars, not alcoholics or drug addicts, don't

439
00:39:44.840 --> 00:39:50.360
have mental illness. They're just people
who saw something really crazy they couldn't explain,

440
00:39:52.320 --> 00:39:57.280
and I believed them. They all
saw it and they heard it walking

441
00:39:57.360 --> 00:40:04.519
through the middle of their their work
site. That almost sounds like a a

442
00:40:04.639 --> 00:40:09.639
portlock type situation, except for there
wasn't a massive amount of people being killed,

443
00:40:09.719 --> 00:40:15.960
but they did leave the area and
not return. That's really really interesting.

444
00:40:17.599 --> 00:40:23.039
Well, and plus the Haida now
in Heideberg, they actually have a

445
00:40:23.119 --> 00:40:29.119
name for their bigfoot. They call
it dog eat means like wild man or

446
00:40:29.119 --> 00:40:37.320
something like that. And they've had
some stories like bigfoot like you know,

447
00:40:37.760 --> 00:40:45.519
throwing rockster people's windows or their doors, stuff like that living up there.

448
00:40:46.119 --> 00:40:52.880
And this is a totally random question. Did you have any thoughts about missing

449
00:40:52.960 --> 00:41:05.119
four and one or run into any
situations regarding that. They've had children,

450
00:41:05.599 --> 00:41:17.719
adults and people go missing in the
forests that were not found. They do

451
00:41:17.840 --> 00:41:24.480
have black bear on the island.
They're not. They probably get up to

452
00:41:24.480 --> 00:41:30.199
about two three hundred pounds, but
the average is about one hundred and fifty

453
00:41:30.199 --> 00:41:36.239
two hundred pounds, and they're I
mean, if you run into one,

454
00:41:36.280 --> 00:41:44.800
obviously you know it would cause damage. But you know, it's just it's

455
00:41:44.840 --> 00:41:50.320
just weird because when you have bear
kills, you know, you find body

456
00:41:50.360 --> 00:41:52.920
parts, you know, you find
where the bear dragged them off, you

457
00:41:52.960 --> 00:42:00.400
see blood marks, stuff like that. These are people who disappeared and are

458
00:42:00.440 --> 00:42:05.480
never seen again, not hiding her
hair, not clothing. They may have

459
00:42:05.519 --> 00:42:09.760
been carrying rifles or fishing equipment.
It's all gone and nobody ever finds it.

460
00:42:10.480 --> 00:42:16.320
Would you ever talk to hear from
people that would run into large animals

461
00:42:16.440 --> 00:42:22.760
that would have their necks broken,
almost twisted and broken. I've gotten reports

462
00:42:22.760 --> 00:42:28.480
of that from Montana, where like
even creatures like grizzlies would have their necks

463
00:42:28.519 --> 00:42:37.119
broken. They'd stumble upon animals like
that in klock when the big Foot's kill

464
00:42:37.239 --> 00:42:43.000
something, or on Prince of Wales, they eat it. So you don't

465
00:42:43.000 --> 00:42:52.400
find animals usually that are just preyed
upon and not eating. So I would

466
00:42:52.480 --> 00:43:01.079
say that they have found animals who
were killed like one. It had its

467
00:43:01.079 --> 00:43:07.440
skull crushed in and the way it
was done, it doesn't make sense that

468
00:43:07.480 --> 00:43:10.559
it would be a bear, because
if a bear did it, you'd have,

469
00:43:10.760 --> 00:43:15.119
you know, claw marks and stuff
like that. What it looked like

470
00:43:15.280 --> 00:43:21.639
is somebody took like a hammer and
hit the the deer in the head,

471
00:43:22.599 --> 00:43:28.400
just like one hit. And you
know who could run down the deer and

472
00:43:28.480 --> 00:43:32.039
hit it in the head of a
hammer. I don't know, just saying

473
00:43:32.719 --> 00:43:38.519
that's that's that's intense. That is
intense. How long ago again, was

474
00:43:38.559 --> 00:43:46.599
it that you were in that Kloak
region ten June twenty ten to June twenty

475
00:43:46.679 --> 00:43:52.159
twelve. I still hear stories about
stuff going on out there. I was

476
00:43:52.199 --> 00:43:58.039
going to ask you, so there's
still events unfolding in that area. All

477
00:43:59.000 --> 00:44:07.679
wow, that place is a paradise
for bigfoot manu. It's got it's got

478
00:44:07.079 --> 00:44:13.360
fish. One part of Klowok has
a salt lake, the other part has

479
00:44:13.400 --> 00:44:17.440
a freshwater lake. And you have
like crabs, you have like shrimp,

480
00:44:17.559 --> 00:44:24.519
you have like seals, you have
like different fish, you have all kinds.

481
00:44:24.679 --> 00:44:29.960
I mean, it's it's actually a
temperate rainforest is what Colwak is classified

482
00:44:30.000 --> 00:44:35.800
as. And Uh and Prince of
Wales, and so you have like likeen,

483
00:44:36.559 --> 00:44:39.320
you have like all kinds of fruit. They have like gooseberries, salmon

484
00:44:39.360 --> 00:44:45.440
berries, boison berries, blueberries.
They've got all kinds of berries around there.

485
00:44:46.119 --> 00:44:55.039
It's literally like the animals they're gonna
starve. Sounds like a perturb environment.

486
00:44:59.599 --> 00:45:05.159
Yep. So they've said that.
I know one guy he reported the

487
00:45:05.199 --> 00:45:08.880
sighting where he said he saw bigfoot
take a rock and there was a seal

488
00:45:08.960 --> 00:45:13.320
swimming in the water, and the
bigfoot beaned it in the head and then

489
00:45:13.440 --> 00:45:15.679
slam out, grabbed it, threw
it over its shoulders, slam back to

490
00:45:15.760 --> 00:45:19.760
shore, and walked off into the
forest with it. That's why I like

491
00:45:19.800 --> 00:45:22.760
when people tell me bigfoot throw rocks
at him. I know for a fact

492
00:45:22.800 --> 00:45:27.000
the bigfoot aren't aiming at them directly. They're just trying to scare you and

493
00:45:27.119 --> 00:45:30.239
drive you out of their area.
They will throw it at you if you

494
00:45:30.239 --> 00:45:34.840
don't like you don't get the hint
and leave, you know what I mean.

495
00:45:34.960 --> 00:45:39.800
But like they've had reports of them
doing that to deer to you know,

496
00:45:40.440 --> 00:45:44.480
I've heard an anchorage. I heard
reports of them doing it the moose.

497
00:45:45.199 --> 00:45:51.360
I actually heard of a big foot
running down a moose in Anchorage before

498
00:45:51.440 --> 00:45:57.199
us, there was a couple of
hunters out there. You're not actually supposed

499
00:45:57.199 --> 00:46:01.400
to carry firearms and Denali Park,
but you know, a lot of people

500
00:46:01.440 --> 00:46:07.360
disregard that because there's frigging huge grizzly
bears out there, and if you encounter

501
00:46:07.400 --> 00:46:13.280
one, they're not afraid of people
at all, and if they're hungry,

502
00:46:13.320 --> 00:46:15.639
they'll eat the crap out of you. So a lot of people do carry

503
00:46:15.719 --> 00:46:20.480
rifles out there and whatnot. But
anyway, they saw a bigfoot run down

504
00:46:20.679 --> 00:46:27.599
a moose, grab it and like
break its snack and drop it like a

505
00:46:27.639 --> 00:46:31.039
bad habit. And they said it
literally picked the moose up, and this

506
00:46:31.119 --> 00:46:37.039
is a huge moose. They said
it was probably seven foot from the top

507
00:46:37.079 --> 00:46:42.119
of the head down and they said
that thing threw it over his shoulder and

508
00:46:42.159 --> 00:46:45.719
walked off. They said the big
foot was about nine feet tall, and

509
00:46:45.760 --> 00:46:47.960
they said it was built like a
brick shite house, is what the guy

510
00:46:49.039 --> 00:46:54.559
said. He said that that thing
was frigging massive, and he said it

511
00:46:54.639 --> 00:46:59.079
easily picked it up, through it
over a shoulder and walked away. The

512
00:46:59.199 --> 00:47:04.679
strength of a bigfoot is unfreaking real. That's why when I hear people saying

513
00:47:04.719 --> 00:47:08.000
they'll shoot one. I talked to
one of the elders about that. I

514
00:47:08.000 --> 00:47:09.960
say, is anybody ever shot one? He goes, hell, no,

515
00:47:10.719 --> 00:47:15.079
what do you think we're stupid?
We're not going to shoot them. They

516
00:47:15.119 --> 00:47:19.880
live in families out there. If
you see one bigfoot, there's two or

517
00:47:19.880 --> 00:47:22.639
three others surrounding you. If you
shoot one, the others will come in

518
00:47:22.960 --> 00:47:29.920
and kill you. So that's why
I laugh when I hear people saying they're

519
00:47:29.920 --> 00:47:32.880
going to shoot a big foot.
It's like, you better hope it's alone.

520
00:47:34.599 --> 00:47:37.480
You can. You can try to
shoot a big foot, but it

521
00:47:37.519 --> 00:47:44.119
doesn't sound like you'll be getting away
alive potentially. Did you ever have any

522
00:47:44.239 --> 00:47:51.039
reports of people hearing a lot of
vocalizations in that area? Oh? Yeah,

523
00:47:51.079 --> 00:47:52.719
I heard it myself. Oh really, what kind of things did you

524
00:47:52.760 --> 00:48:08.159
hear? Well? I heard I've
heard whoops, you know, like that,

525
00:48:09.079 --> 00:48:14.280
and there's nothing in Kolok on Prince
Wales that makes that kind of noise.

526
00:48:15.920 --> 00:48:22.440
I've heard that, I've heard I've
heard growls. Obviously that thing I

527
00:48:22.519 --> 00:48:31.679
heard bigger one who like that at
me? I heard that. I also

528
00:48:31.760 --> 00:48:38.000
heard one that kind of reminded me
of that Bsie how think er Thunker put

529
00:48:38.039 --> 00:48:43.599
it on his site. I can't
even imitate it. It's it's like real,

530
00:48:43.840 --> 00:48:47.280
real weird and high pitched, and
it's just like it sounds really bizarre.

531
00:48:47.360 --> 00:48:52.000
But it sounded like that. And
then I heard one once it was

532
00:48:52.039 --> 00:49:00.599
almost like that, ohio monhow did
some people do like that? That kind

533
00:49:00.639 --> 00:49:05.000
of stuff? You know what I
mean? I heard something very like that,

534
00:49:06.360 --> 00:49:12.880
And then I heard one that was
like a scream, and it sounded

535
00:49:13.000 --> 00:49:21.159
like Cliff Berrickman used to do it
on finding Bigfoot beginning of it. He'd

536
00:49:21.159 --> 00:49:23.320
do this scream and I'd be like, he'd just go like, oh,

537
00:49:25.199 --> 00:49:31.119
like that. And I heard something
like that, but it was a lot

538
00:49:31.239 --> 00:49:39.639
louder, and it carried for miles
and like you could feel it. And

539
00:49:39.760 --> 00:49:45.039
one of the neighbor's dogs when heard
that, ears went down, tail went

540
00:49:45.119 --> 00:49:47.119
between its legs, and that thing
yipe went in the house and wouldn't come

541
00:49:47.159 --> 00:49:52.400
out for a week. It was
hiding under the bed. It actually went

542
00:49:52.480 --> 00:50:00.480
all over itself and defecated on itself. It was so terrified. So you've

543
00:50:00.519 --> 00:50:05.760
definitely heard a few things when you're
up there. Did anyone ever report anything

544
00:50:06.239 --> 00:50:13.280
similar to like language or something that
sounded like language or anything like that.

545
00:50:14.920 --> 00:50:17.800
If you're talking about like that samurai
chatter one, No, okay, I

546
00:50:17.880 --> 00:50:22.559
never heard anything like that, got
you. If you're talking about that,

547
00:50:22.239 --> 00:50:27.199
what's that guy's name? Oh,
I can't think of that gentleman's name.

548
00:50:28.760 --> 00:50:32.760
He's he's got that Sierra sounds.
Yeah, I was, It's it's pretty

549
00:50:32.840 --> 00:50:36.920
much the same thing. That's what
I was referring to. Yeah, yep,

550
00:50:37.280 --> 00:50:40.400
yeah, I have never heard anybody
say they heard anything like that,

551
00:50:40.760 --> 00:50:45.639
got you. Yeah, but you're
sound You're hearing all sorts of things up

552
00:50:45.679 --> 00:50:51.000
there that is so interesting. It's
it's crazier that I haven't heard more about

553
00:50:51.000 --> 00:50:53.960
this particular area. And maybe it's
just because I'm not overly familiar with the

554
00:50:54.000 --> 00:51:01.599
Alaska bigfoot scene, but uh man
m Klawaka, Alaska definitely seems like it's

555
00:51:01.639 --> 00:51:07.599
the place you should go if you
wanted to research. Is this a place

556
00:51:07.639 --> 00:51:12.719
you can just walk into though,
or is it all like you have to

557
00:51:12.760 --> 00:51:20.320
be associated with the particular tribes in
order to go to that area? Well

558
00:51:23.199 --> 00:51:30.239
it really depends, okay, because
like Craig, Craig, Alaska is uh

559
00:51:30.599 --> 00:51:36.360
not a tribal town. It's actually
a town for people who are like not

560
00:51:36.599 --> 00:51:40.159
natives, and I don't mean native
to Prince of Wales. I mean like

561
00:51:40.960 --> 00:51:45.639
people who are not Native American.
A lot of them live there in Craig.

562
00:51:46.960 --> 00:51:51.400
And there's there's a guy on Craig
whose name I put a life of

563
00:51:51.440 --> 00:51:55.360
me. I cannot think of that
man's name, but uh, he researches

564
00:51:55.440 --> 00:52:05.639
bigfoot out there. He'll take you
around. Generally, it's a good idea

565
00:52:05.760 --> 00:52:19.800
to reach out to people online because
there are there are like people out there

566
00:52:20.599 --> 00:52:23.400
and Craig or other places who let
it be known that they are looking for

567
00:52:23.480 --> 00:52:29.800
bigfoot on Prince of Wales. If
you google it, you can usually find

568
00:52:29.840 --> 00:52:32.440
somebody's name pop up, and you
can always email them and see what they

569
00:52:32.440 --> 00:52:38.239
have to say. Gotcha, do
a little dig in. It sounds like

570
00:52:38.280 --> 00:52:44.599
you'll find them definitely. And like
I said, I cannotfer the life of

571
00:52:44.719 --> 00:52:47.519
me think of that guy's name.
I haven't talked him since like twenty eleven.

572
00:52:47.559 --> 00:52:51.079
I'm not even sure if he's even
still alive. To be honest,

573
00:52:51.760 --> 00:52:58.920
yeah, he was an older man
and I don't know if he's still living

574
00:52:59.000 --> 00:53:02.800
or even active. Like I said, that was like you know all those

575
00:53:02.880 --> 00:53:09.440
years ago, Oh yeah, exactly, Alex. This has been an amazing

576
00:53:09.519 --> 00:53:15.840
chat about an area of Alaska I
think deserves more respect. For sure.

577
00:53:16.360 --> 00:53:22.880
I know it gets my respect now, no question. I want to thank

578
00:53:22.920 --> 00:53:27.440
you for coming on the show and
for chatting for a bit. I mean,

579
00:53:27.599 --> 00:53:31.400
we could talk for hours on all
the stories. No, I think

580
00:53:31.559 --> 00:53:36.599
I think we've covered the basics.
I think we've covered enough. The one

581
00:53:36.639 --> 00:53:42.679
thing I do want to add,
though, is that just that a lot

582
00:53:42.679 --> 00:53:51.360
of people out there think that,
uh, the interdimensional Bigfoot stuff is Bigfoot.

583
00:53:51.679 --> 00:53:53.639
I just want to propose to people
that it might not be a big

584
00:53:53.719 --> 00:54:00.079
Foot. It really might be a
shape shifting spirit. Now I'm not saying

585
00:54:00.199 --> 00:54:05.960
to people who are die hard believers
that Bigfoot is an interdimensional travel or traveler

586
00:54:06.039 --> 00:54:09.159
or a UFO not or whatever.
I wouldn't, for the life of me

587
00:54:09.239 --> 00:54:13.880
disparage them. I know people have
had their experiences, and I know they

588
00:54:13.920 --> 00:54:16.599
believe what they believe, and so
I would never try to challenge that or

589
00:54:16.599 --> 00:54:22.519
disrespect that. But I would just
like to put a bug in somebody's ear,

590
00:54:23.400 --> 00:54:28.119
you know, to just think about
that when you're talking about Bigfoot and

591
00:54:28.360 --> 00:54:32.440
saying that they're associated with the orbs
or UFOs or like they walk into a

592
00:54:32.480 --> 00:54:37.360
forest and they disappear, and the
tracks stop dead, and there's nowhere for

593
00:54:37.400 --> 00:54:40.599
them to disappear too. That you
might not actually have encountered a bigfoot,

594
00:54:42.159 --> 00:54:49.440
might have encountered a skin walker,
A I'm a cook or a koushaka or

595
00:54:49.519 --> 00:54:57.159
whatever. Just a thought, that's
all I got. Well, yeah,

596
00:54:57.280 --> 00:55:00.480
thank you for coming on, Alex
I pick the Society. We've got the

597
00:55:00.480 --> 00:55:08.320
privilege of talking to Dylan from Prince
of Wales Island up in southeast Alaska today.

598
00:55:08.360 --> 00:55:13.280
How's it going, Dylan, I'm
pretty good. Are you doing well.

599
00:55:13.760 --> 00:55:17.119
I'm excited to talk to you on
the phone. I was trying to

600
00:55:17.119 --> 00:55:22.079
see if I could get a hold
of anyone that actually lives on the island

601
00:55:22.079 --> 00:55:27.119
and has had some bigfoot encounters,
and through some posts that I made in

602
00:55:27.159 --> 00:55:31.679
some groups, we were able to
get connected. And still background on yourself.

603
00:55:31.880 --> 00:55:37.519
You do work in the timber industry
up there in Prince of Wales,

604
00:55:37.559 --> 00:55:44.559
but you said that you do have
some interesting sightings to share with the podcast

605
00:55:44.599 --> 00:55:49.280
listeners. I'm going to let you
take the floor, and I know you've

606
00:55:49.280 --> 00:55:53.079
had a few times where you've seen
sasquatch over the years, but I'll have

607
00:55:53.159 --> 00:56:00.440
you start wherever you feel is a
good starting point. Okay, I could

608
00:56:00.440 --> 00:56:04.840
start with the first time I seen
one. I lived on the island now

609
00:56:04.880 --> 00:56:09.159
for about four years, and the
first time I come up. I have

610
00:56:09.199 --> 00:56:14.199
a friend who lives in Cassan,
which is in the There's a peninsula sticking

611
00:56:14.239 --> 00:56:19.199
out towards catch a Can and there's
a little town on that peninsula. You

612
00:56:19.199 --> 00:56:22.639
can drive to it, and it's
an old Native village. But we went

613
00:56:23.440 --> 00:56:27.960
crab fishing in that bay there.
It's a pretty good place to go fishing.

614
00:56:28.320 --> 00:56:32.559
And we were throwing pots over and
I looked over to go mark the

615
00:56:32.599 --> 00:56:38.800
buoy, and I seen a shape
moving between these two islands, and we

616
00:56:39.239 --> 00:56:44.960
didn't think anything about it. Kept
putting around, putting pots in. We

617
00:56:45.000 --> 00:56:46.440
got closer and closer to this thing. I thought it was a lot.

618
00:56:47.199 --> 00:56:52.320
There's lots of logs floating around after
storms, deadheads, and if you hit

619
00:56:52.360 --> 00:56:55.079
it with your boat, you'll get
a hole or mess up your prop.

620
00:56:55.360 --> 00:56:58.800
So I told him, and he
took a look at it, and he

621
00:56:58.840 --> 00:57:02.119
said, that ain't a lot.
That is a They call him a pushtaka.

622
00:57:04.079 --> 00:57:13.039
It's the Native Alaskan people here.
They believe in these creatures that live

623
00:57:13.599 --> 00:57:20.320
near water, and they make these
siren sounds like babies crying, women crying

624
00:57:20.320 --> 00:57:23.880
at night to draw men towards the
water, and they pull them in and

625
00:57:23.920 --> 00:57:28.599
eat them. That's the story.
And he wanted to get really close to

626
00:57:28.679 --> 00:57:30.280
it and kill it. We got
in a fight. I didn't want him

627
00:57:30.320 --> 00:57:35.239
to mess with this thing was going
to bring us in the water and kill

628
00:57:35.320 --> 00:57:38.039
us. But we got fairly close
and looked at it through a scope on

629
00:57:38.079 --> 00:57:45.039
our rifle, and it was swimming
pretty fast over towards This island has a

630
00:57:45.079 --> 00:57:50.760
bunch of berry bushes, no trees, and I didn't think nothing of it.

631
00:57:50.800 --> 00:57:52.280
I thought it was a weird looking
bear. But he swore up and

632
00:57:52.320 --> 00:58:00.280
down that that was indeed a pushtaka
or a sasquatch. I'm pretty sure that

633
00:58:00.320 --> 00:58:05.400
they're about the same thing. And
I didn't see nothing for a long time

634
00:58:05.880 --> 00:58:10.320
after that, for about e three
years, and then last year I always

635
00:58:10.320 --> 00:58:16.000
went to the Carter River Wilderness,
and I was going to go to the

636
00:58:16.039 --> 00:58:20.559
lake, take a week off of
work and have a big fishing trip.

637
00:58:20.679 --> 00:58:23.199
Start at the lake and make my
way down the river and then go beach

638
00:58:23.239 --> 00:58:28.920
sane and then get picked up.
So I was at the cabin at the

639
00:58:29.000 --> 00:58:35.480
lake for two three days and headed
off down towards the mouth of the river

640
00:58:35.679 --> 00:58:39.360
where there's another cabin. And this
area is very overgrown. It ain't been

641
00:58:39.400 --> 00:58:45.960
logged, I think ever. So
there's nine ten foot sicckke of spruce,

642
00:58:45.559 --> 00:58:51.840
very dense canopy, very dark,
and that year we got fifteen feet of

643
00:58:51.920 --> 00:58:58.719
rain, so it was raining NonStop
the whole time. It's very dark,

644
00:58:59.000 --> 00:59:05.000
and when it's and you don't have
a very good sense of anything hearing or

645
00:59:06.039 --> 00:59:10.920
vision, smell, you can't really, I don't know how to describe it.

646
00:59:10.960 --> 00:59:15.480
You're almost numb walking through that stuff. And a bunch of salmon berry

647
00:59:15.519 --> 00:59:21.840
bushes, extremely dense. So I
walked around a corner on the river and

648
00:59:22.159 --> 00:59:25.199
I was going to go throw in
see if I could get a couple of

649
00:59:25.280 --> 00:59:30.840
sakey. They were running about June
and I peered over and I thought it

650
00:59:30.880 --> 00:59:36.639
was a bear because it's black and
it was looking down, so it looked

651
00:59:36.639 --> 00:59:40.639
like a snout of some kind.
But I got closer to it and it

652
00:59:40.679 --> 00:59:44.599
looked up. It hurt me,
and we were just staring at each other

653
00:59:44.599 --> 00:59:49.159
across the river. Its head looked
up. I saw its eyes, and

654
00:59:49.199 --> 00:59:53.079
anyone's not a bear because bears don't. Bears have snouts, they don't have

655
00:59:53.119 --> 01:00:00.159
flat faces. It didn't stick around
long, Tuck I'm taking I'm thinking probably

656
01:00:00.199 --> 01:00:04.199
about two three seconds and he was
gone, turned around, Ram, It's

657
01:00:04.199 --> 01:00:07.440
about it. I don't know what
else did give you, Dylan, When

658
01:00:07.480 --> 01:00:13.880
you saw the creature for a few
seconds, do you remember it had a

659
01:00:13.880 --> 01:00:20.000
particular shape to that head that you
saw. Yeah, pretty long head,

660
01:00:20.440 --> 01:00:24.480
but a small face, if that
makes any sense. Really big forehead,

661
01:00:25.119 --> 01:00:32.119
just very and huge, okay,
and yellow eyes and a real big eyebrow.

662
01:00:32.920 --> 01:00:38.840
By big eyebrow, do you mean
the actual hair of the eyebrow or

663
01:00:39.280 --> 01:00:43.760
the ridge. I mean it's all
covered in hair. But you could see

664
01:00:43.800 --> 01:00:47.280
that area was like a bump across
the whole forehead, one big bump.

665
01:00:47.960 --> 01:00:52.840
Would you say most of the face
was covered with hair or only certain parts

666
01:00:53.639 --> 01:00:59.400
the face part It almost looked like
an Amish guy, you know how they

667
01:01:00.039 --> 01:01:04.800
shave the mustache but have a big
beard from the sideburns all the way around

668
01:01:05.039 --> 01:01:09.880
looked like that. Did you notice
anything particular about the nose of their creature

669
01:01:09.920 --> 01:01:16.360
at all? Pretty flat and people
have round nostrils. This thing had more

670
01:01:16.440 --> 01:01:22.760
like a slit looking thing. Did
it show its teeth at all, any

671
01:01:22.519 --> 01:01:27.840
any emotion that you got from its
face and the few seconds so that you

672
01:01:27.880 --> 01:01:31.280
saw it, I think it was
surprised, looked at me pretty wide eyed,

673
01:01:31.920 --> 01:01:36.239
one of those stunned looks for a
second, like a deer in the

674
01:01:36.239 --> 01:01:39.519
headlights. It sounds like you were
able to see it move a little bit,

675
01:01:40.639 --> 01:01:45.719
moving on two legs, are on
four? It moved on to it

676
01:01:45.760 --> 01:01:51.400
stood up and just turned away and
walked. You able to see the hands

677
01:01:51.400 --> 01:01:55.000
at all? Or what's the lower
part covered by bushes or something like that?

678
01:01:55.639 --> 01:02:00.920
No, he was in the river, so saw that hans these wet,

679
01:02:00.039 --> 01:02:04.960
but they were there. Did you
notice anything out of the ordinary about

680
01:02:04.960 --> 01:02:09.079
the hands, Oh, they had
thumbs, for sure, they weren't more

681
01:02:09.119 --> 01:02:15.599
feet, gotcha. And the hair
covered all the way down to the hands.

682
01:02:15.920 --> 01:02:20.880
Oh yeah. Looking at the face
of the creature. Let's say,

683
01:02:20.920 --> 01:02:24.119
if you had to put in a
category in human category and you have eight

684
01:02:24.239 --> 01:02:29.679
category or I guess maybe you have
something completely different, could you put it

685
01:02:29.719 --> 01:02:34.039
in any of those categories? I
mean it looked more eight for sure.

686
01:02:34.079 --> 01:02:39.880
It has big cheeks round like what
is that thing the orange ones from Asia

687
01:02:40.119 --> 01:02:44.760
wearing a tank? Oh? Really? It reminded you of an orangutang.

688
01:02:44.800 --> 01:02:47.599
Look, Oh, yeah, for
sure because of the cheeks. Okay,

689
01:02:47.719 --> 01:02:51.599
yeah, I'm picturing that in my
head. I know exactly what you're talking

690
01:02:51.639 --> 01:02:55.320
about. Length of the hair.
Did you notice anything in regards to how

691
01:02:55.400 --> 01:03:00.920
long the hair was. It's pretty
shaggy, so it had to be fairly

692
01:03:00.039 --> 01:03:05.920
thick. What that would be maybe
three four inches thick, like a shagg

693
01:03:06.039 --> 01:03:08.679
rug looking deal. Did you notice
a color to the hair at all,

694
01:03:09.239 --> 01:03:15.599
Yeah, like a dark brown,
black looking, very dark color. Were

695
01:03:15.639 --> 01:03:23.400
you able to see the feet or
lower legs at all? Yeah, okay.

696
01:03:23.920 --> 01:03:29.039
Did you notice anything about the feet
or the legs at all? Not

697
01:03:29.480 --> 01:03:36.800
anything other than they had two two
feet Definitely no shoes. The hair went

698
01:03:36.880 --> 01:03:40.039
pretty much clear down there, but
I couldn't tell you in detail what the

699
01:03:40.079 --> 01:03:45.400
feet looked like. What was the
weather like at this time, raining temperature?

700
01:03:46.000 --> 01:03:52.360
Oh, probably about sixty sixty five
degrees Okay. Did you notice any

701
01:03:52.639 --> 01:03:58.920
particular smell at this time? Yeah? It was, frankly one of the

702
01:03:59.000 --> 01:04:04.280
worst smells I've ever smell in my
life, wet mangy. You ever been

703
01:04:04.320 --> 01:04:15.719
to a animal shelter and smelt that
weird? Rancid sweaty dog smell. Yeah,

704
01:04:15.960 --> 01:04:18.639
and you could smell across the river. Okay, remind me how far

705
01:04:18.679 --> 01:04:26.039
away roughly you were again, I
would say between forty and thirty feet the

706
01:04:26.119 --> 01:04:30.559
river there probably about that wide,
and that smell just hit you from that

707
01:04:30.719 --> 01:04:36.960
far away. Wow, that's that
is wild. When you saw the creature

708
01:04:38.199 --> 01:04:42.239
moving, getting out of the river, then probably walking a bit, did

709
01:04:42.320 --> 01:04:47.840
you notice anything about how it walked
its gate? Yeah, it stood up

710
01:04:48.360 --> 01:04:55.519
and turned, but it's a heel
in one motion, and it took a

711
01:04:55.639 --> 01:05:00.079
huge step onto the river bank,
and then another step and then and it

712
01:05:00.159 --> 01:05:04.519
stepped in the salmon berry's but really
big steps. You probably covered ten twenty

713
01:05:04.559 --> 01:05:10.639
feet in matter of nothing. He
was gone and almost instant, quiet,

714
01:05:11.159 --> 01:05:15.199
in quiet, quiet, quiet,
Okay. Picturing the way that it's moving

715
01:05:15.199 --> 01:05:17.639
in your mind, do you feel
like that's a way of moving that a

716
01:05:17.760 --> 01:05:24.280
human could replicate or was it different
than the way that a human would move?

717
01:05:24.840 --> 01:05:30.840
I don't think a person, even
a tall guy with really good coordination,

718
01:05:30.880 --> 01:05:34.400
because tall people usually ain't that coordinated. I don't think you could really

719
01:05:34.960 --> 01:05:43.519
get out of the river soaking wet, and the ground heres moss and rock,

720
01:05:44.480 --> 01:05:47.400
So when you're stepping on it.
You think it's soft, but it's

721
01:05:47.840 --> 01:05:51.760
It will tear your feet up really
really quick. It's slick too, and

722
01:05:51.800 --> 01:05:56.320
it was really raining that day.
I don't think that a person could make

723
01:05:56.360 --> 01:06:00.920
that kind of movement with bare feet. They have to be wearing pork boots.

724
01:06:00.199 --> 01:06:06.199
Were you able to get a feel
of how long the actual foot of

725
01:06:08.239 --> 01:06:12.679
the creature would be if you had
to give estimate the foot of it?

726
01:06:13.119 --> 01:06:19.280
Yeah, how I wouldn't be able
to guess. Probably something in the range

727
01:06:19.320 --> 01:06:25.920
at fourteen fifteen inches if I had
to guess, I know, sure pretty

728
01:06:25.920 --> 01:06:30.400
big. Around this time, what
were the sounds around you? Like?

729
01:06:30.480 --> 01:06:33.320
What other sounds were you hearing?
Are you hear the river? You would

730
01:06:33.360 --> 01:06:40.280
hear some crows, there were some
eagles, and little breeze going through the

731
01:06:40.320 --> 01:06:45.800
trees. Mainly the rain is really
a heavy rain. Gotcha, So not

732
01:06:45.840 --> 01:06:51.119
entirely one hundred percent quiet, but
you're still hearing a few birds. Okay,

733
01:06:51.599 --> 01:06:58.480
gotcha? Do you remember what your
emotional reaction was in a few seconds

734
01:06:58.519 --> 01:07:02.760
you saw this happen first? I
was in a daze and I stood there

735
01:07:02.840 --> 01:07:09.599
probably two three minutes after it left. I couldn't move, almost felt like

736
01:07:09.639 --> 01:07:15.119
an out of body experience like I
was paralyzed. Did you tell anyone right

737
01:07:15.199 --> 01:07:18.360
afterwards what had happened or did it
take a while for you to share what

738
01:07:18.400 --> 01:07:26.239
you'd experienced. No, I didn't
tell anybody for six seven months. I've

739
01:07:26.239 --> 01:07:30.679
only told about three four people.
Is there a reason why you took so

740
01:07:30.840 --> 01:07:35.159
long to share that way? I
was trying to figure out what the hell

741
01:07:35.559 --> 01:07:42.480
could be for sure. I don't
like jumping on things and just coming up

742
01:07:42.519 --> 01:07:45.880
with theories. I know I have
a really good friend of mine, and

743
01:07:45.920 --> 01:07:50.960
he'll see aliens everywhere. There's aliens
in the supermarket and lizard people and all

744
01:07:51.000 --> 01:07:56.599
that other stuff. But I was
thinking of I've been in the forest in

745
01:07:56.599 --> 01:07:59.840
my whole life. I was logging
since I was fourteen, so I've seen

746
01:08:00.639 --> 01:08:06.000
I've been logging in Alaska for six
years now. There's wolves, there's bears,

747
01:08:06.800 --> 01:08:13.119
there's deer, and in southeast Alaska
that's about it. Large animals.

748
01:08:13.719 --> 01:08:16.920
I've seen some. Really, there's
mangy bears. They get sick sometimes and

749
01:08:16.920 --> 01:08:20.840
they'll lose hair, they look really
weird, and sometimes they'll stand on two

750
01:08:20.840 --> 01:08:28.159
feet. This thing is not a
mangy bear. And I couldn't figure out

751
01:08:28.159 --> 01:08:30.840
what the hell it was. I
was questioning my sanity for a while.

752
01:08:31.319 --> 01:08:36.840
Wow. Some other questions about what
you had seen. Do you remember anything

753
01:08:36.880 --> 01:08:44.840
about the arms of the creature at
all, apart from them being hairy and

754
01:08:44.920 --> 01:08:48.439
all that. Was there anything weird
about the length? They were long,

755
01:08:48.800 --> 01:08:57.520
for sure, longer than proportionately we'd
see on a bear. The hands definitely

756
01:08:57.560 --> 01:09:00.399
went lower to the About the knees, I'd say a little bit about the

757
01:09:00.520 --> 01:09:04.600
kneecaps, or the fingers would be
resting if you'd standing straight up. Did

758
01:09:04.640 --> 01:09:11.079
it look like you're looking at a
creature that had normal amount of digits,

759
01:09:11.119 --> 01:09:15.439
like we would have, like five
fingers and five toes or I don't know

760
01:09:15.439 --> 01:09:19.319
if that's something you were able to
notice at all, or I wouldn't be

761
01:09:19.359 --> 01:09:23.840
able to tell for sure because he's
soaking wet and some of those hairs are

762
01:09:24.359 --> 01:09:28.319
bunched up. Might have looked like
fingers, but I couldn't think more than

763
01:09:28.399 --> 01:09:34.760
five in less than four. Gotcha? Was is there anything that made you

764
01:09:35.600 --> 01:09:40.159
Were you able to tell if you
were looking at like a male or a

765
01:09:40.159 --> 01:09:44.640
female of the species or anything like
that. It did have a big chest,

766
01:09:44.880 --> 01:09:48.359
well, again too graphic. It
didn't look like a guy, it

767
01:09:48.439 --> 01:09:57.640
looked like mammories there. Okay,
gotcha. That's that sounds like it's the

768
01:09:57.680 --> 01:10:01.319
first major interaction you've had, because
I was thinking back to the first story

769
01:10:01.920 --> 01:10:08.560
and it sounded like at that point
you only saw a creature that was in

770
01:10:08.600 --> 01:10:12.920
the water. Did that creature ever
get out of the water that you saw

771
01:10:13.199 --> 01:10:16.239
or know? How did you feel
it was for wimmen, It's just it

772
01:10:16.279 --> 01:10:19.960
was swimming and it was an animal. It wasn't a log for sure.

773
01:10:20.000 --> 01:10:26.199
It had was making noise in the
water. You could see trying to breathe

774
01:10:26.239 --> 01:10:30.720
and stuff. How much of the
animal were you able to see in the

775
01:10:30.760 --> 01:10:35.520
water? Was it shoulders up or
just the head or the water was pretty

776
01:10:35.640 --> 01:10:40.039
clear. We could see the head
up in the water, and when it

777
01:10:40.079 --> 01:10:45.760
would swim, you could see parts
of the upper shoulders, but you couldn't

778
01:10:45.800 --> 01:10:54.720
see anything definite below the water lying
there. What were the main features since

779
01:10:54.760 --> 01:10:58.760
you weren't able to see a lot
of the creature like you were the one

780
01:10:59.359 --> 01:11:03.680
that we just taught about, were
there major features that you saw that were

781
01:11:03.720 --> 01:11:09.760
like you're like, okay, yeah, this is a sasquatch or kushtaka ka

782
01:11:10.119 --> 01:11:15.319
ohushtaka. Yeah, yeah, still
that the flat face, but the heads

783
01:11:15.359 --> 01:11:23.039
on they're so oblong that they look
like they could be a snout, but

784
01:11:23.600 --> 01:11:27.680
they aren't pointed in the direction that
the animal moves. If that makes any

785
01:11:27.800 --> 01:11:32.439
sense. It's the peak of the
head points back and the animal is moving

786
01:11:32.560 --> 01:11:38.560
forward. It wasn't on a bear. I think seeing bears swim and any

787
01:11:38.600 --> 01:11:43.760
other animal I've seen swim, the
snout is always pointed in the same direction

788
01:11:44.000 --> 01:11:47.119
bears in them. They don't do
backstroke. Have you ever seen any other

789
01:11:47.239 --> 01:11:54.520
creature that has a head shape similar
to that? Okay, you said the

790
01:11:54.560 --> 01:12:01.600
one creature looked more like a had
a rangutang face to it. Was that

791
01:12:02.359 --> 01:12:06.880
also similar to the one that you
saw swimming or was that a completely different

792
01:12:06.920 --> 01:12:12.439
setup. We weren't close enough to
be able to make that out, gotcha.

793
01:12:13.079 --> 01:12:17.920
Yeah, asking some basic questions either
of these encounters. Were you able

794
01:12:17.960 --> 01:12:25.279
to get any pictures or audio recording, or see any tracks, any evidence

795
01:12:25.399 --> 01:12:30.640
like that. I did not take
pictures, and I just honestly don't look

796
01:12:30.680 --> 01:12:34.560
to take any pictures of anything.
Not a good photographer. So I did

797
01:12:34.600 --> 01:12:40.399
come back not long after, and
I looked in the river there for any

798
01:12:40.479 --> 01:12:45.840
tracks, but it's hard to find
tracks here. It's all moss and anything's

799
01:12:45.840 --> 01:12:49.840
there an impression. The best luck
you have is around a riverbank, and

800
01:12:50.520 --> 01:12:56.119
when it's raining, you won't find
much. Going back to the orangutang one,

801
01:12:56.880 --> 01:13:01.000
do you have any idea of what
the creature might have been doing there

802
01:13:01.079 --> 01:13:06.479
at that spot when you sounds like
you stumbled upon it. Was it trying

803
01:13:06.479 --> 01:13:12.640
to do any certain activity? Or
I would assume it was fishing because it

804
01:13:12.680 --> 01:13:16.560
was a salmon run and it was
leaning over the water. It had the

805
01:13:16.720 --> 01:13:23.479
prime arms there in the water,
and it was looking in the river watching.

806
01:13:23.520 --> 01:13:28.000
It wasn't looking anywhere else before I
showed up, So probably fishing.

807
01:13:28.560 --> 01:13:32.680
Did you ever do any research to
see if you could find any or talk

808
01:13:32.720 --> 01:13:39.279
to anyone who had seen similar things
in that area where you were at.

809
01:13:39.880 --> 01:13:45.119
Yeah, my friend from Cassan,
I talked to him, and the locals

810
01:13:45.159 --> 01:13:51.920
around here they'll tell you that it's
pushtaka, and their stories and descriptions of

811
01:13:53.000 --> 01:13:57.319
them are pretty similar. What they
look like, what they're up to where

812
01:13:57.359 --> 01:14:01.720
you find them. They almost always
seem to be around water. That's the

813
01:14:01.720 --> 01:14:08.479
one commonality in all those encounters I've
ever heard of up here. Did you

814
01:14:08.560 --> 01:14:12.600
grow up on the island. Then
no, I came up here to work,

815
01:14:12.840 --> 01:14:15.960
Okay, ended up staying. When
you first got to the area,

816
01:14:16.159 --> 01:14:21.600
did you notice the presence of sasquatch
and the culture right away? Oh?

817
01:14:21.640 --> 01:14:27.479
Yeah. Before I came up here, I was logging in Oregon and Washington,

818
01:14:27.680 --> 01:14:32.800
and it's pretty similar as far as
a prevalence in the folklore and culture

819
01:14:32.840 --> 01:14:39.560
of the region. I would say
it's very intense and closely tied. Guys

820
01:14:39.600 --> 01:14:45.960
that you were working with, did
they have similar experiences themselves or if they

821
01:14:45.000 --> 01:14:50.199
did, they don't tell anybody.
And it's pretty hard for me even to

822
01:14:50.279 --> 01:14:54.760
talk about it. You don't talk
about this kind of stuff. It's a

823
01:14:54.760 --> 01:15:01.399
pretty no nonsense industry. Oh absolutely, And I'm very very thankful that you

824
01:15:01.520 --> 01:15:05.840
are able to talk about this.
I know it's a thing where you are

825
01:15:05.880 --> 01:15:11.279
still in your career, and I
can tell that at times this is hard

826
01:15:11.279 --> 01:15:15.560
to talk about for you. If
you had the choice whether to see it

827
01:15:15.600 --> 01:15:20.600
again, would you want to see
it again or I'd absolutely like to see

828
01:15:20.600 --> 01:15:26.239
it again. I'd love to because
it's a special thing. It's something that

829
01:15:26.760 --> 01:15:30.680
I don't think there's a whole lot
of them left. It's like walking in

830
01:15:30.720 --> 01:15:34.000
an old growth forest. Only a
handful of people will ever be able to

831
01:15:34.000 --> 01:15:41.119
do that unless as the world is
closed up and we destroy more of it.

832
01:15:41.439 --> 01:15:44.079
Really, probably going to go out
again and look for it at the

833
01:15:44.119 --> 01:15:49.119
card that would be awesome. Definitely
let me know if anything comes to that.

834
01:15:49.640 --> 01:15:54.359
Is this a thing where the memories
were coming into your dreams things like

835
01:15:54.399 --> 01:15:59.279
that? Oh, I couldn't tell
you. I don't think so. I

836
01:15:59.399 --> 01:16:02.239
had a dream about it, but
it's not like a thing that had happened

837
01:16:02.239 --> 01:16:10.159
all of a sudden, like magical
shamanistic deal, more like a PTSD dream

838
01:16:10.239 --> 01:16:16.720
quite honestly, Do you have any
advice for people that maybe they've had an

839
01:16:16.760 --> 01:16:23.800
encounter like this of ways that they
can move past it and just be able

840
01:16:24.560 --> 01:16:30.560
to deal with everyday life. Yeah, eventually you got to tell somebody,

841
01:16:30.159 --> 01:16:35.640
and I wouldn't be too concerned if
they believe you or not, because who

842
01:16:35.680 --> 01:16:41.000
gives a rat whether or not anyone
believes you. You can only believe your

843
01:16:41.399 --> 01:16:45.279
own two eyes and your nose and
your ears. Why do you think it's

844
01:16:45.319 --> 01:16:50.720
important to actually be able to share
to someone else, partially because you drag

845
01:16:50.800 --> 01:16:54.920
them into it with you, and
all of a sudden there's another person who's

846
01:16:55.880 --> 01:17:00.680
They might not believe it. They
might, but now there's more more people

847
01:17:00.680 --> 01:17:04.359
who have to at least think about
it. Gotcha, Dylan, It's a

848
01:17:04.479 --> 01:17:12.479
very interesting encounter. Thank you so
much for sharing what you saw with me

849
01:17:12.760 --> 01:17:15.800
and my listeners. I hope you
are able to go back to that area

850
01:17:16.039 --> 01:17:21.680
if you are able to notice anything
weird up there, definitely keep us in

851
01:17:21.720 --> 01:17:27.199
the loop. Thank you so much
for taking some time chatting with us tonight.

852
01:17:27.239 --> 01:17:32.720
Do you have any closing words about
your experiences. I suppose the last

853
01:17:32.720 --> 01:17:39.279
thing to say would be, I
really hope that nobody comes out here to

854
01:17:39.840 --> 01:17:44.560
hurt them. That's about it,
because we get a lot of trophy hunters,

855
01:17:44.560 --> 01:17:48.520
and I would imagine they'd love to
get their hands on something like that.

856
01:17:49.000 --> 01:17:55.720
I would hope it never comes to
that. It's totally different than getting

857
01:17:55.800 --> 01:18:00.159
a specimen for science, I think, the whole trophy hunting thing. But

858
01:18:00.119 --> 01:18:04.960
yeah, I hope that it definitely
does not come to that. But Dylan,

859
01:18:05.039 --> 01:18:10.399
thank you so much for your time
tonight. No problem. May ask

860
01:18:10.520 --> 01:18:14.880
you a question, Yes, does
this need to be off record? I

861
01:18:14.920 --> 01:18:15.920
don't think so. All right,
go ahead. Do you get a lot

862
01:18:15.920 --> 01:18:20.279
of records from around here? So
I've only had the opportunity to talk to

863
01:18:20.720 --> 01:18:26.880
one gentleman who was a chaplain with
the Salvation Army about his time up there

864
01:18:27.760 --> 01:18:31.800
a Prince of Wales Island. From
what I've heard, there are many people,

865
01:18:31.880 --> 01:18:38.520
it's just being able to get the
connection to them, which is why

866
01:18:38.520 --> 01:18:45.000
I resorted to pretty much posting in
random Prince of Wales Island Facebook groups and

867
01:18:45.039 --> 01:18:47.840
then someone I think sent a message
to your tagged you in it. But

868
01:18:48.520 --> 01:18:53.479
I know there are lots of people
in your area that are seeing things.

869
01:18:53.600 --> 01:18:58.800
It's just being able to get in
touch with the right people. Yeah,

870
01:18:59.119 --> 01:19:05.479
which he from, Oh yeah,
okay, yeah, it was a klubok

871
01:19:05.520 --> 01:19:13.319
thing. Yeah, so it's pretty
interesting if listeners are listening and there's other

872
01:19:14.039 --> 01:19:17.720
individuals that have had sightings in the
Prince of Wales Island area. I would

873
01:19:17.760 --> 01:19:20.920
love to talk to you as well. You need to always send me an

874
01:19:20.920 --> 01:19:25.600
email a big for Society at gmail
dot com. But yeah, I've had

875
01:19:25.600 --> 01:19:30.239
the privilege of talking to one other
person so far. Hopefully more in the

876
01:19:30.239 --> 01:19:33.079
future. All right, all right, Dylan, thank you so much for

877
01:19:33.239 --> 01:19:39.479
chatting. Feel free to reach out
there's anything that I can ever help out

878
01:19:39.520 --> 01:19:44.079
with, and hope to be in
touch with you in the future. Sure,

879
01:19:44.119 --> 01:19:46.920
thank you all right, have a
great rest of your night, Dylan

880
01:19:47.479 --> 01:19:51.680
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916
01:23:34.960 --> 01:23:39.960
Maybe there's somebody else out there listening
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917
01:23:40.399 --> 01:23:43.640
Maybe this will give them the courage
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918
01:23:43.640 --> 01:23:46.399
feel so bad about it. Who
cares what anybody thinks. I know what

919
01:23:46.479 --> 01:23:50.159
I saw, I know what's out
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920
01:24:06.039 --> 01:24:12.039
Please let people know, Please let
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921
01:24:12.039 --> 01:24:15.640
of these things, you need to
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922
01:24:15.680 --> 01:25:02.159
on you, you know, shame
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