How to make the Perfect Bigfoot Costume with Cory Seymour from Seymour's Captive Cryptids

0:00 And all right, big for society. We've got the privilege of talking with mister Corey Seymour from Seymour's Captive Cryptids. This guy is a super nice, awesome, talented artist that I got to meet at Cryptocon. He makes He's best known for his masks, I would say, but he's also best known for these adorable little squeeze plushy I bought a moth Man and it's very cool and I gave it to my son and he adored it because it has a little as I mean lesbi Frank, it's got a little squshy butt in the back. And what kid isn't a fan of that? Right? You knew you're outdio, Right, So how's it going, Corey? It's going really well. How about yourself? Oh it's so good. We are both getting amped up, I would believe for monster fests. I don't know if this is going to be out before it, but as a time of recording, we're only ten days the way and I'm gonna be like, oh man, we got a lot of stuff to do still, so I'm pumped that.

1:06 Oh man, uh, how many masks are you bringing to the to the um. Let me think Uh sorry, I count on my fingers. Uh Bigfoot, Chio, Picabra, Jersey, Devil, Windigo, Um lovel and Frogman. Um. I might have a jetty and maybe I might get my moth Man made in time. I got a lot of work to do. Oh wow, that's that's incredible. Where are you guys located out of again?

1:48 Columbus, Ohio? Oh that's perfect. So that's like light up the road for you guys. That's good stuff. Well, my my wife Um, I met her here in Columbus, but she actually is originally from can Wow. Yeah. Yeah. The Monster Fest is being held at the or the the movie premiere for the Friday night before Monster Fest at the Palace Theater, And for as long as I've known her, she's raved about that theater and how cool it is, and so we're actually really excited to get up there, and she's going to show me around because I haven't actually been into that place before. Oh I am, I'm just I'm pumped for it. I mean, I hear it's a beautiful theater. They're gonna be playing a delightful small town Monsters film, which is going to be amazing, and I am super super pumped for I mean films all weekend really are mostly on Saturday.

2:46 But Corey, I'm curious, did you get into cryptos first or into the artisan side of things first? Well, you know, I was always into the weird stuff when I was younger. You know, I liked aliens, I liked UFOs, I liked monsters and ghosts and bigfoot and locked nests and I always liked that stuff. But you know, at the same time, my parents basically let me watch whatever I wanted as a kid, and my dad was always into horror movies and sci fi movies. So like, I grew up watching all the heavy practical effects movies of the eighties and nineties.

3:30 And I actually originally wanted to be a special effects artist. I wanted to go to school for it, but then I realized in order for me to do that, I'd probably have to leave Ohio, and I didn't really want to move away from friends and family. And I I'm gonna get a little long winded here. If that's okay, let's party go for it. Yeah. So I got I got really lucky, and a friend of a friend was like at a party somewhere and that he met someone who was the manager for a company called Unit seventy Studios right here in Columbus, and they were looking to hire some new people, and you know, they got word to me and I started working there in June of June or July twenty thirteen.

4:19 And it's a company that makes props amatronics for hunting houses. And you know, I was doing a lot of grunt work there, but I learned a lot, picked up everything I could from all the other coworkers, and you know, they directed me where I could buy the stuff to learn to make my own masks, because I always wanted to try it out, you know, just give it a shot. And I just ordered stuff online and pulled up some YouTube videos and just started doing it. And you know, I worked for that company for about a year and then jumped around a bit, and then I got another job at another company called Scare Factory, which is also here in Columbus, the same thing, props amatronics for hunted houses.

5:04 And uh that was I worked there till twenty seventeen, and I learned a lot more there from some of the artists. They really took me under their wing, showed me some neat tricks, really good techniques for getting in detail and stuff like that, and all the while at home, I was still making my own masks, and but at the time I was just doing like original Monster Mass, just kind of making making things up. And I did a couple conventions for these Halloween conventions, and I didn't do well. They didn't sell very well. And one day at a show this would have been like twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen, maybe another mask maker came up and he said, your your masks are really cool, your prices are really good, but people want to buy what they know. And I was like, okay, so let's pivot here. And if I want to do something my own way and not just do copies of what everyone else was doing, you know, zombies, clowns, vampires, you know, what can I make?

6:13 And you know, I went back to my roots of things that I really liked, and that was like cryptids. And I was like, well, let's give it a shot. I can kind of do what I want, but still, you know, if I aim it the right way, people were going to know what it is. And I just started making Cryptid Mass and we did the Cryptic Con in twenty nineteen, and that was the very first like cryptid paranormal convention that we had ever done, and it was the best convention we did to date. And we decided, you know, it's time for me to quit my day job and try to do this full time and really risk it. And my wife is she's got a really good career. So we knew that we could afford to take the risk, and so I quit my job in September of twenty nineteen. We set up fourteen conventions for twenty twenty. I did all of two, one in January, one in February. But I've just been still working at it and chomping at the bit and coming up with new designs and new ideas, and now things have kind of normalized. We've we've actually started becoming pretty successful, and it just keeps growing, you know, keep moving forward, keep growing. That's amazing. Wouldn't it be great if like someone was listening to this in fifty or sixty years and they're like, man, why did he only do two

7:45 out of the twelve conventions in twenty twenty. I got to look that up on my Wikipedia VR in my ship in my head. Well, we're not even going to tell you, dude. You just got to look it up. Yeah, yeah, seriously. Anyways, when you are designing one of your masks, I'm curious, do you is it just it's all up in your head or do you have certain resources that you like to go to for inspiration or where are you getting the ideas for these creatures in your Well, it's it's always good to have reference pictures as best you can. You know, making stuff, making stuff up out of your out of your brain is you can do it, and it's not difficult, but having reference pictures helps keep you from want your brain, your mind wandering off on what you're doing.

8:39 That being said, one of the things I have stuck to very staunchly when I do my cryptid masks is I don't pull up pictures or artwork of the cryptids. I go and I find the eyewitness accounts and the descriptions, and I I read those and I interpret those to my ability and then use that as my biggest reference point. It helps me from just copying what another artist did. It allows me to kind of still stick to an original design. Um you know, I did the Loveland Frogman, and there's a ton of Frogman artwork out there, but um you know, I looked at the original descriptions and then I would use reference pictures of just frogs, you know, to help guide that. But uh, you know, I try to stick away from artwork that other people have done into encrypteds because you know, I don't want to be too influenced by it's it's too easy to accidentally copy someone in the art world, and that's not something I want to do.

9:52 I want people to see my stuff and they go, oh, yeah, that's that's a Seymour's mask. That's they know what it is. You know, that is so cool. I always I always knew there was something. I was like, Man, first time I saw your masks in person at cryptoconmis like, they look so like just the way that he's made them, they look so real. They're awesome, And I was like, I got to talk to him someday about where he gets his ideas. And I love that you are actually going to eyewitness accounts. So let's let's say, for example, the big Foot mask. So like, what are you using for your which witness accounts are you? Are you did you look at for that?

10:33 I mean to be honest, it's kind of like, um, you know, I really just like I go to Google, I pull up just random ones. I kind of piece them together, and there was no specific one. And that was the other thing I didn't want to stick to, like, oh, this was this person's specific description, and that's the only description I'm going off of. I really kind of moved around and then I just use those kind of as rough guidelines. I you know, Um, that's that's the That's the fun and joy of what I do is I can play with it. I don't have to stick too hard to it. But um, yeah, I don't try to. I don't try to use anyone specific. I kind of blended all together. That's awesome. I love when artistry and cryptozoology intersect. It's just like we are the most or I would say crypto zoology artisans are the most creative group I've ever met of people.

11:33 You know, I got to hang out with a group of them and at Cryptocon we all went out and ate pizza and just the nicest bunch of people you'll ever wanted to talk about. You had talked to me a little bit a few days ago about how you are actually involved with creating a full sized Bigfoot costume for small town monsters. Is that correct? Yeah, so um Seth Breedlove talked with me about how, um, he's wanting to upgrade some of their suits, some of their costumes that they have for their basically their b roll. They're they're really wanting to get some b roll for their movies that they can just like utilize throughout several several of them. Um. And he asked if it was something I'd be I'd be up for, and I haven't. I haven't personally ever made a full body suit before. Um, but I told them i'd be I'd be down for the task. And um, luckily I um, right before I quit my day job, my day job to do this. I worked for a company called Costume Specialists, which made mascots. Um. Yeah, and so um, you know all of my masks if you've seen them, they have most of them have fur.

13:03 Um. Well, I have a seamstress who was a co worker from that job, who patterns and sows all the fur for me. Um and so uh she is working alongside with me to get these suits made. And um, we are we're you know, we're attempting to do something I'm not. I'm not Hollywood level, that's you know, I'm I know that I'm not quite there yet. Maybe one day, but I'm not Hollywood level. Yeah, but I don't. I had no interest in making something that just looked like a fur suit. So, um, one of the things that we're actually doing is we are utilizing a um, a muscle suit that fits under the under the fur um and it actually utilizes some floating muscles so that when they're not fully like encapsulated into the suit, part of it is and then part of it lays over top of other muscle segments, so when the body moves, you actually see those muscles moving under and over each other. Really.

14:13 Yeah, you know, that's that's the theory. That's the theory that we're going with. And you know, um uh you know, we're we're still working on it. It being a brand new thing that that I've never done and she's never done outside of work, we're really working together on trying to make sure we get it done right. Um. You know. But there's a bit of a learning curve to it, of process to doing something you've never done before. But um, it's going really well. I'm currently sculpting or almost finished sculpting and ready to mold H two separate bigfoot masks. Um, they'll have hands and feet of course. Um, you know, And I don't know how much I'm allowed to tell. He set so Seth.

15:07 Seth was the first one to mention that I was doing these suits for him on another podcast, UM, which tells me it's okay for me to talk about it. But I don't know how much I'm supposed to give away or whatnot. But um, but I'm working on those for him. And UM, I've you know, he's we've worked together a little bit in the past. Um, he's he's he purchased back in twenty nineteen, he purchased my Mothman mask for one of his documentaries, but ended up on the cutting room floor. Um, just the style of film that he ended up leaning into. It didn't work with what he was going with. But you know, Um, he purchased another one for the bell Witch documentary he did.

15:54 You can only see it in a few silhouette scenes in the background, but UM, it was really cool. It's really cool to work with him. I'm excited. UM. I think we have a lot more work in the future. He is. He has thrown out the idea that if if these suits work out, and he's happy with them. We might be doing some more suits after that, So that's awesome. I'm gonna throw some questions your way because that's my job, and then you can throw it back in my face if you want. Um. Still, I'm just really curious, are you using Patty as a as a reference for this or is it going to be like we'll look at it and maybe you'll look a little familiar, but it's not going to be like this isn't gonna be like hoax Patty, you know, Like I mean, you know, Patty is like the best reference to use if you're doing Bigfoot. I mean, it's the most It's it's of all the all of the photographic and film evidence. It's it's the best we got so far, I think, And I think not using it as at least some form of reference for this, um, I'd be doing a disservice. Uh. It's not a hard, hardline you know reference. I'm not trying to copy it. I'm you know, I'm making this thing my own. Um. I'm I'm trying to find that that that in between between

17:26 primate and human features that that we we think we we see in them, you know. Um, it's tough sometimes though, because it's it's it's very you know, it's all vague, all the photos, all the images, all these descriptions. Um yeah, I mean you have you have two people that see this, have the exact same encounter, and then they give you two different descriptions of what they saw, and you know, so um that's that is the fun though of doing these crypto masks in these suits and is I'm I'm not wrong in my design? True? You know, it feels like it could almost be a rabbit hole, like the ultimate rabbit hole going down because it's like, okay, you have to make feet. How long are you going to just focus on the feet because you could go down the crazy rabbit hole and you could be like, oh, gotta contact doctor Meldrum now and be like then I do all right that the mid tarsal break like and no one's ever going to see the foot, Like how far do you let yourself go crazy? You know? I have I have done a little bit, uh just just a little bit. I've assisted in some special effects work for uh small independent film. Um, and I've got to see stuff that I have had my hand in assisting with and then see the footage afterwards.

18:55 Um. And it's surprising how little of the work you put into it that you actually end up seeing, you know. It's uh, I think I know that that you you don't want to be too obsessive with a lot of the smaller things. I mean, you know, the feet need to look good, but making sure that you know there are you know, the the dermal ridges like fingerprints on the toes like that's there's no reason to get to that level. You're never gonna see that in film. Um. The I think the faces are going to be the most important part. Um, you know. And uh, one of the things that I'm really excited is I'm gonna be trying flocking on these ones, uh to break up the because with most of my masks, it's the fur just stops and then you have the latex you know, skin, and I don't want to do that with these ones. I want to have that transition from fur to to skin to be smoother. So, um, I'm I'm going to be using utilizing flocking to break it break that edge line up. And do you know what flocking is? I don't. I was about to ask you, actually, Um, so easy reference is if you remember when you were a little kid and you would have one of these toys that was supposed to be like an animal that was hard plastic, but it had like a velvety fur. Yes, absolutely, that's flocking. And the way that's done is you create an electrical

20:30 charge on the surface that you want to attach the flocking. You put down the layer of glue or contacts cement where where it's going, and then you use a flocking gun, which I can't remember if it negatively or positively charges these. It's basically just really short, tiny hairs and so when you use the flocking gun, they when they land onto the surface of the mask, they stay and straight up on end. And what that does is it creates that like velvety texture and they're all standing just straight up. They're really tiny, and that'll help break up that line from the long fur to just the skin. And I think he'll he'll give it really cool features and good for close ups. That will be you know, I can't think of another film that would have that detail built into the costume. And I'm sure Adam from Bigfoot Film Appreciation Circle it's going to message me and be like, well, actually, which I oh man, that guy, Yeah, he's coming on the podcast one day. He's gonna let me know when he's getting We're going to talk about old school Bigfoot VHS films from the because he's the guru with that. Anyways, that's another show. But man, that's fascinating. I didn't know there was that much work that went into the that toy I had

22:03 when I was a little kid that I'm picturing. Oh yeah, oh man, that's nuts. The one thing, you know, I'm trying to picture the Bigfoot costume of the future in my head, and you got a good point. Probably a lot of focus is going to be on the face. I also see that for some reason, what keeps popping out to me is like the length of the arms. If the length of the arms isn't right, I think it would take me right out of it. Yeah. I don't know why that is, but it's like that arm length that everyone says it's longer arms right, Yeah, And you know it's like and then you have to like, for me, how much of an extension do I want to do? Do I want to take the actor's hand out of the equation, because like, are we going to make it so long that they're they have to manipulate something that fake hands or is it going to be um trick photography? You know, I mean you're not always going to get actors that are seven and a half eight feet tall to walk through the woods wearing a suit for you. Sometimes the best you can get is a six foot tall friend of yours and and you just have to use force, perspective and you know, good shots. So you know, it's getting a really good, like accurate Bigfoot suit to what the way the descriptions are like you're moving into the Hollywood territory of special effects. And when you do that, you start

23:38 adding zeros to the cost of the suit. Yeah, that's true. That's a good point in your research. Are you looking at like the old school Planet of the Apes customs at all? You know, I wasn't, But that's not that's not a bad idea. Uh No, you know, I um, like I said, you know, I was. I look at the Patty images. Um uh. I also watch a lot of Bigfoot movies just to see what others have done and how it looks. Um, some some good ones and some really bad ones, and you know it's uh, it's um, it's just it's really interesting. What other suit makers like focused on and the things that they decided were important and the things that they they didn't and how they did what they did. And um, I mean even even for this this suit that I'm working on, uh, just to help us out to make sure that we're we're going in the right direction. Um, I purchased from the Stan Winston School. Uh. They have a DVD course for doing the muscle suits, and their example muscle suit is for a big foot suit. So yeah, it's a nice little shortcut that we were able to utilize with that to just kind of helped direct us. I mean, we're not going to copy it exactly, but it's we're definitely using as

25:14 a good reference for what we're trying to be trying to do. Well, if the master is going to say here's some info about like this and it has to do with a big foot suit, I'm probably gonna be like, I'll take a look at it. You know, I'd be foolish not to. Yeah, you mentioned that you've been watching different Bigfoot movies to look at the suits. So are there any that come to mind for like, Wow, that movie had a really good suit or that movie had a not so good example of the suit. I mean it's hard. It's it's a it's a kid slash family movie. But it's hard not to like love the Harry and the Henderson's big foot suit. Yeah I know. I mean that is a childhood favorite of mine. Um, you know it didn't it didn't hurt that they had uh what was his name? Um, it's a very tall gentleman, wasn't he. Yeah? He remember he also played the Predator in the first Predator Movie's right? Yeah? Yeah? Um, I mean it doesn't hurt having a really tall actor to play the part. But like, uh, that's a fantastic suit. Um, but let me think, Um, Big Legend had a really nice big foot suit. Um. I really like that one. Um one, I think it's almost bad. It's almost bad to the point that I love it. Um is the suit from Abominable

26:47 Um oh, I haven't seen that one. I have to look that up. I love Abominable Is. It is a fantastically good bad movie in my opinion. Um it's it is out Hitchcock's rear window meets Bigfoot. Uh. I love it. The suit is it's it's well done. Like quality wise, it's really well done. But style wise, it's very exaggerated and kind of outlandish. Um Like, Bigfoot's face is way too big for his body, but it's just like it's massive compared to the rest of him. Nice.

27:32 Um Like, it's bad in my opinion, it's as a Bigfoot suit. It's bad and it's designed. But I still love it. Oh, I can't wait for the YouTube comments. Abominable fanboys are gonna be that's terrible kids. I love it. I'm really gonna check it out though. UM, I gotta ask you. I usually ask all the people I talk to this, but curious, So you've been thinking about Bigfoot a lot over the years, especially now. What are your thoughts as to what the creature is that we're dealing with? Um, Well, you know, I'm I'm a believer. I've never encountered anything to tell me that it exists personally. But I think that the amount of evidence I win this accounts, video photographs, the amount of them, it's too unlikely that is all hoaxes and misidentifications.

28:44 I think that it is a genetic cousin to humans, and you know, it probably evolved right beside us, um along you know, along with chimps and gorillas. And all the other great apes. And my money is that it witnessed just how brutal humans are and decided that its best survival tactic was that remain hidden to hide from us. Yeah. I mean, you have the most one of the most elusive animals on the planet that has I mean, there is so much land, even just in North America alone that has not been seen by a person to talk about it. There's plenty of places for things to exist that we have yet to see. Um. But on top of that, like you know, humans, humans are kind of dicks, like we're well, we totally are. Yeah, yeah that yeah, we we we we don't really mesh well with nature. Uh, we've kind of removed ourselves. Even even prehistoric Man moved himself away from nature as much

30:15 as he could. And uh, you know, if if I was a tribe of of primates that was as intelligent as as we can assume they must be witnessing these other primates they are just killing everything and cutting down all the trees and everything. Like, I'd probably go hiding too, you know, Like I don't think I'd want to be discovered by them. And um, yeah, I think that they just they're they're right there along side by side cousins with us, and they're probably very intelligent. They they probably have tool usage, but not to the point that they have to make anything that's permanent.

31:02 You know. Um, I agree with you one hundred percent on the tool usage. I mean, if you if you listen to apes among Us podcast UH with an AWAC guys out of Area X, they have actually found um I forget the exact name they have for them, but they're pretty much stations where it's a it's a large flat rock and there's another rock where you can tell that something has been picking up the rock and smashing it down into a large gathering of acorns and they're splitting. Yeah, and this is a large rock that's being picked up. I mean, it's not a squirrel that's doing it, guys. I mean obviously if that's a squirrel, though, I'm it's game over for sure. Sure Scotch squirrel squatch. Someone make it, someone make it. Um. But yeah, I agree with you that there is some smarts there tool usage. I mean who they've probably found in other places some I know that the Olympic projects. Yeah, Shane found some stuff too, He found like well, there's like the rock clacking and stuff, man, And it's crazy to think about. You know, we think that we've civilized the entire United States. We definitely haven't. That's something that I've learned from doing the show for almost five years. There are areas in

32:32 the Pacific Northwest no one has seen. There's areas in Oklahoma that are extremely remote. It's crazy crazy. There's even areas in Ohio that I mean, you could probably say it's remote, but I mean you've got places like Salt Fork. Yeah. Well, I you know, I talked with um Cliff barrickman Um and he told me that Ohio is ranked fifth in the country for bigfoot sidings and number one east of the Mississippi, you know. And I mean we're we're you know, the Appalachian Trail cuts through parts of Ohio, you know. And I mean there's a lot of a lot of wilderness that that I think we as a people like to glaze over in our minds because to actually think about the fact that we are actually surrounded by massive areas of wilderness that people don't live in. I think it's a lot scarier for some people to accept. You know, um, if you're not if you're not in a city, you know, like you're not that far from a lot of wild animals. And um, I mean even even in the suburbs,

34:06 there are animals that have learned to like travel without anyone even seeing them, you know. I mean most of the time people don't realize that there are a possums and raccoons in their neighborhood, you know. And it's like you're you think you're in the city, but you're still in the wilderness. You're not actually detached, You're still there. Yeah, we're I mean, it's it's as crazy, you know, as as humans. We go into our houses, turn on the lights, everything is fine, we continue it all out, but in reality we're about a week and a half from everything just you know, like but yeah, okay, we won't get too crazy. But let's say power is just like boom, no more power. How long would it take for just everything to be like boom, It's game over, it's party time, you better start surviving. And then the big Foot come back in and like, okay, remember us, we're back. That's a movie I'd see Bigfoot Apocalypse. That would be a great movie. Though someone wants to make it oh Man big Foot apocalypse. Oh, it would be that would be so cool. Um. Yeah, I don't think that one's been made. Yeah, let's someone do that. That would be rock and roll. Um have you heard or you know it's speaking of Ohio bigfoot stuff.

35:29 Do you have like a favorite Ohio Bigfoot story that you've heard from living there or anything? I thought, you know, I wish I did. Um I have. I don't think I've actually ever heard an eyewitness account from anyone directly. Um, I'm a I'm a I'm a city mouse. I've lived almost my entire life within twenty minutes of downtown Columbus. Oh wow, yeah, I mean there were there are areas I lived where I was just like a few miles from the farmlands, but like it was still town. And so No, unfortunately I don't have any I don't have any good stories in regards to that, and I really wish I did. We did.

36:16 We did the Salt Fork Bigfoot conference. Uh, was like a week and a half ago or something like that, almost two weeks ago. And originally me and my wife and a few of my friends we rented a cabin for that weekend. And originally I was like oh, you know, we should do We should go out into the Salt Fork and do a little squatching and see if we can find anything. And then it occurred to me, I'm like, everyone that's staying out here this weekend is going to be out in the woods, and so I have to assume every noise I hear is just another person squatching. So I want to plan a weekend, you know, maybe later in the summer, to go out there and see why I can find see if I can discover anything. M cliff also said there's a place south of Columbus on your way towards Cincinnati, Beaver Creek. He said, he said, if you want to hear Bigfoot, he said, go down to Beaver Creek, set up in the campground, to set up out in the woods and turn off the lights, and he said, you'll hear them.

37:36 You'll hear the knocks, you'll hear the footsteps, you'll hear the noises they make. It's like, just go out there, be quiet, just like you. Maybe two people. I'm like, I don't know if I actually want to do that. You know, you have to do it. You gotta do it. That's amazing. Oh, man, dude, if anyone listening to this uh has done that. Let me know what you encountered in the comments? That sounds so Beaver Creek in Ohio? Yeah yeah, that's wild. Um how far away from northwest? I think northwest Ohio?

38:17 Are you? Um? Well, you know Columbus is basically the center. So okay? Um, so you you were talking about up towards heading towards um Cleveland or are you talking about more towards more towards Uh? Oh man, this is my geography is failing rapidly. It is Indiana that's to your west west to my west towards Indiana in the northern western corner, probably about three hours maybe Okay. I was thinking the guys you got to go out with, which would be awesome and encrypted to the Corn guys. Oh yeah, those guys are off the rock and dude, oh man, I want to see the cory encryptids of the Corn Beaver Creek extravaganza. That would be amazing. Those guys, those guys are awesome. Oh I'm so pumped to see them coming up in ten days that it's going to be a good time, good good dudes for sure. Um Man, this has been a super fun chat before we go. Yeah, there's a there's a question that I thought of a while back and I didn't get to ask it. Is there something that makes Columbus like is it is it a weird city? Or like, what are the chances there's two like, um, Halloween haunted house prop

39:47 type? Is there any reason for that or just happens to be that those businesses are in there? So um here here's what I'll say about Columbus. I love Columbus. Columbus is my favorite place. Um. I don't think I'd ever want to live anywhere away from Columbus. UMU, as it has been described to me by the many other artists that I have met while living here, Columbus is the art capital of the world. And and and the way it's explained is, um, you know we have so we have Cca d um that is um that's our art school here. Um. So we have I mean, we have a school that has dedicated to art from clothing to digital to physical woodworking, I mean just about every type of artistry you can imagine. There's the school here teaches. Um. We probably have one of the highest artist populations, maybe outside of outside of New York. Um.

40:55 Wow, On top of that, Columbus is also the largest test market in the United States. Um. Anytime a product is ever needing to be tested um on whether or not it will do well is tested here in Columbus before it's tested anywhere else. So we get all the first things and um uh. It's kind of sad though, because well, a lot of times I'll find something brand new that I really like and then it just disappears, you know, so like all the weird food at restaurants and then yeah, oh man that you know. I think I think that I think Columbus breeds uh weirdness, and I think it really um, I think it really embraces that. Yeah, I mean it's It's to the point where I even created my own tag group on Facebook. Ohio is weird? I love that.

41:57 Yeah, that's a good reason I was hoping it wasn't like, well, the whole place is hunted and there's like Ghostbusters but ten times worse. I'm glad it's just because there's a ton of artists there might there might be some of that too. There's a lot of Native American burial grounds that have been built over, so oh cool. Oh well, good job Columbus Settlers. You really mess that up. Good. To be fair, it is called Columbus Ah, I get it. The light pulpers is like ding. That's amazing. Oh, Corey. I am looking forward to seeing you again in about ten days from time recording. It's going to be a good time at Monsterfest. But before we go, do you mind taking a few minutes and sharing with the listeners how they can keep up to date with what you're doing, how they can pick up one of your masks, all that good stuff.

42:55 Yeah? Absolutely so um. Best places to follow us as Instagram and Facebook. Just Seymour's Captive Cryptids on both of those platforms. I also have an Etsy page for now I think Etsy is kind of dying a little bit, but we also have a website which is Just Seymour's Captive Cryptids dot com. You can find all of our stuff on there. Yeah, that's pretty much it. Fantastic. Well, best of luck with you in your endeavor to make an amazing bigfoot suit for small town monsters. I'll be looking forward to seeing the finished result. And thanks for coming on today, Corey.

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