Hunter vs Sasquatch for the Deer! | Indiana

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0:51 Bill. Hey, how you doing. We were just talking a little bit before the show, and this sounds like it's said it's going to get pretty wild, So I'm interested to see where we're going to go. But you know, Bill, feel free if there's any things that the listeners need to know about you. First off, feel free to share that, and I'll also let you get right into it and share what you need to about what's going on. Sure, sure will. This kind of enters myself. You know, I'm a life long archery hunter. I love hunting archery. I've hunted just about all the species. I mean, you know, whether it's white tail, mule, deer, el bear, moose, and our goals eventually get a grizzly bear at some point.

1:37 But I do help with a gun, but my passions with a boat. So I've been all over out West hunting most all the states. I've hunted LBL actually for probably twenty years and never had never experienced anything out of the ordinary, you know, Bigfoot related or any cryptid related anything, whether that's in Idaho, Colorado, just anywhere out west. Like I said, OBL, I've hunted just about everywhere in Obeia and we always backcountry camp. So for me, you know, Bigfoot was one of the things you watch on TV and it's specifically you know, in Washington State, in Oregon or California. So you know, it's not say I wasn't a believer, you know, it just I never had any anything to even remotely that I could say to make me a believer that would happen. So, you know, it was about twenty nineteen. I hunt a farm. I've been hunting a farm in southern Indiana and probably since I was fourteen years old. I'm quite old now, I'm an older guy now, but so I've been hunting there for a long time. Same thing. Never had an issue. I mean, my parents would drop me and my friends off there to a squirrel hunt when we were fourteen years old.

2:46 And we run through those woods throughout my twenties, thirties and forties hunting deer, squirrel, rabbit. That's right on the Ohio River, you know, in southern indian it's not that far from Ford Knocks. It never had an issue down there. Ever, we've camped down there, we've it's a great turkey hunting. Turkey hunting, and the deer was phenomenal. Shot some really nice deer off the property. Like I said, never had an issue until twenty nineteen, twenty nineteen, spring of twenty nineteen. Knowing this farm and this farm surrounded it's thousands of acres that is, and there's houses. You know, there might be seven or eight houses within a mile or maybe even more than a couple miles, because it's a lot of a lot of forest. It's run along the river, so the ridges are anywhere from you know, one hundred and fifty to two hundred and fifty yards tall. They're so steep that we've over the years we've run ropes down them. So we climb up the lot either get up on top of the ridge. You don't have to grab out of trees while you're going up. So the turkey's always roost in the same spot, so it's in it's kind of an easy turkey hunt if they'll come to a call. So it's day before turkey season and I went out there right before dark just so I could roost. The turkeys. Knew where they're at, same spot.

4:07 So I come back down the hill to the truck. There's no houses around, it's a gravel road. And I come up to the truck and I thought, well, there's this long ridge that runs along and I'm park next to it. I said, you know, I'm just gonna throw a diaphragm call and throw a call out, see there's any maybe there's a turkey up on that ridge. And I throw them a call just to hand, had yelp and this thing about seventy five yards over in the woods. And by this time the sun is down. I mean know, you got maybe fifteen minutes ten minutes of light left. I couldn't see in the woods, but I could see through the field to the woods and I hear this. I can't even I mean, it was like something trying to make mimic me, but in this weird, just gravelly voice, and I was like, what in that heck is that?

4:58 So I put my din front call. I called again, and this time it's got the cadence and the sound similar to a turkey, but it's not a turkey. And I'm like, what is that? And I throw a call again and this time it sounds just like me. Well that's it. You know. My entire body lit up, hair standing on the end. I'm like, I'm out. The truck took golf up the hill and went home. So I come back the next morning, go right up on the hill. Within fifteen minutes, I've been shot a nice big gobbler. Come back down the hill, getting the truck, and I leave. And that was the that was when the very first started.

5:39 So I come back bow season. This would be opening weekend of bow season, late early fall, and I was supposed to meet one of my friends there, but he's fifty fifties. He's gonna show up or not. You know, I'll tell you he's gonna show up, but you better wait on. So I normally hunt way back, like literally a mile from the road, and you've got to walk through a big long pa exture, go back between two ridges, all the way back through the creek, back to the corner, and go up. So I've got these stands that we've been Like I said, we've been hunting there for you know, a long time. We've got spermit stands set up. So I decided I was just gonna hunt right over where I heard that thing in the woods, because I've got a little ladder stand there, but it's closed. It's like, you know, one hundred yards from the road. Right between two there's a ridge. It's a ridge where just a dry creek comes down between two ridges and this ridge when it's I don't know, it's pretty straight up. I mean, we've got a rope going up and so it's at least two hundred and seventy five yards from the bottom to the top and it's almost straight up right, but the deer cross through there and they come up and they go up to the next ridge. So I put a stand there so I'm still set here and I'll wait on my buddy. And it was pitch dark, probably forty five minutes for daylight. And I sit in that stand for about ten minutes and I hear this. I can only describe it as this long, drawn out, oh

7:09 just for I don't know, twelve thirteen, fourteen seconds, and then it goes into what it sounds like a siren, an ambulance siren, And I'm like, what is that. I had no idea what this thing was, and I'm like, I'm going to record this thing. So as I'm getting my phone out and all it does it again. So on the third time I recorded, and then the fourth time it just did what I call a siren. It sounded like an ambulance siren. Now maybe some people will call it a scream. I don't know. To me, it sounds like an ambulance siren going off. So and it quit and I'm like, well, it's maybe it's some migratory bird.

7:54 I mean, the last absolute last thing on my mind was bigfoot at me? Really it was not. I thought it was some type of migratory birds right on the river. I'm like, I don't know what it is, so I just put it on the back of my mind, and you know, and my buddy didn't show up, and it starts getting daylight. By this time, it's daylight, and I noticed it was really kind of quiet, you know, and I kept things kept falling around me. I'm like, well, you know, it's the first thing. You think it's acorns, you know. And a couple of them hit the ladder stand and I'm like and then I kind of look up and I'm like, I'm sitting in a beech tree and I'm like, there's no oaks around here, so I'm thinking, well, maybe it's beach nuts. So I didn't think anything about that.

8:37 And a couple more hit around me, and then I climbed down, walked over, got the truck and left, still never thought anything about it. I get home and I've got a friend that works for the d NR and I'm like, hey, I'm like, he happens to drop by my house. I'm like, hey, come here. I'm like, I want you to listen to this. I'm like, our recording is what is this? And I let him listen to the recording and it's whatever his eyes a good size of a half dollars. He's like, that's bigfoot. And I'm like what. He's like, that's bigfoot. And I'm like, there's no way. He said, I'm telling you right now, that's bigfoot. I'm like, you're crazy. He said, send it to me.

9:19 I'm gonna send it to the state. I'm like, okay. So we kind of left it that I have other places to hunt, and so that's not the only only farm, right And I do own a farm that has nice deer too, So I kind of bounce around, and so I guess maybe a few weeks went by. I never hunted back there. I never went back to hunt again for a couple of weeks actually until gun season, but before gone, maybe two or three weeks went by, and I asked my buddy. I'm like, hey, do you're hearing anything back from the state. And he's like, no, no, let me reach out to him. So he calls me a couple of days later and says, yeah, they said it's unidentifiable. They don't know what it is. He said, I'm telling you right now, it's big foot. I just laugh.

10:02 I'm like, yep, whatever. So I just put it behind me. And so gun season, I go out there opening weekend of gun season, and we had had a lot of rain that year, and so I went back to the pasture. If you go back to this long pasture, and then you're in between, you're walking along this creek that's in between two ridges, and these ridges, like I said, are two hundred to two hundred and fifty yards tall, and it's maybe about a seventy yard sixty to seventy yard wide in between the two ridges and the creeks in the center. Well, soon as I walk in the woods, there's this circle and it's about a between a six maybe even between six and eight foot circle. First I thought it was a scrape. I'm like, oh, it's a big scrape. And I'm looking like, that's no scrape. It's a perfect circle. And so whatever made it was almost like you know, if you can imagine if you set a spaceship down in the engine goes off and it blows everything out in a circle. So it looks like something went in and made the circle and put everything that was in the circle and made it was mounded around the circle, and I'm like, what that And there's not a leaf in it? And I'm like, I couldn't figure out. I'm like, what it did? Stink? It did? Was?

11:19 Really it wasn't. I don't even know what you could say the smell was it really unidentifiable smell. It just didn't smell. I'm not gonna say it was real musky, you know, maybe a urnish smell, but I don't know. But I didn't really get down on my hands and knees and sniff it. But I could smell it when I was standing there, and so I couldn't figure it out. I'm like, I've never seen anything like this. You know, this is weird. So I take off and I'm walking back the creek. Well, the first thing I noticed is this place is a great place to hunt. This place has a lot of a lot of bucks, and uh, there's no rubs. And I'm like, I'm walking back through it and I'm like, man, there's no I haven't seen a rub yet. Normally it's a load of rubs and you'll find rubbs back there the sides of your leg, you know, one forty one sixty inch bucks, you know, back there, so uh nothing, I walked back there. I finally get all the way back to the back of the creek and follow this logging road that follows up and takes you up the easy way to get up on top of the ridge. I want to get up on top of the ridge. There's another one, but this one had leaves in it, so it wasn't fresh. Same way, big circle six to eight foot around, nothing in it, all the leaves aside. But this had leaves where the leaves have basically fell off the trees and was laying in it, you know. And I was like, I couldn't figure it out.

12:41 Never slid deer, never jumped a deer, never saw a deer. Very odd. I was like, this is really weird. You don't see a deer, No, no buck sign, no nothing. So I come back down the woods and when I come back down a pass, well, I will say this, I did see. This is another thing. I mean. When I went past the first one I saw, I was going to go down in the creek and I saw a slide and I was like, what the help made that? Because it was about seven inches wide and whatever you could tell whatever slid down was really heavy because it took you know, a chunk of dirt into you know, seven inches wide slid down. I couldn't see footprint or anything like that, but whatever did it was pretty heavy and pretty wide, you know. So anyway, on my way back, I come back and there's leaves in that circle, and I'm like, look, would ever made that had to be fresh, it'd be fresh. So anyway, I couldn't figure it out.

13:43 So I go on back to the house and I ended up shooting a buck at another farm, shot a real nice bucket under the farm during gun season, and so I didn't but I have another friend that hunted, and that friend called me and said, man, there's no deer out there. I'm like, no, it's really weird. He's like, yeah, I can't figure it out. So I didn't know. So I thought it was really weird, you know that we never saw a deer. So anyway, I decided I think that was in the following year. I came back, didn't really do anything that year. In twenty you know, twenty nineteen basically was done. You know. When twenty twenty came around, you know, that was when was kicking there. You know, in the very beginning, and I think everybody, I was staying home a lot, and I thought, man, you know, I had to do something with my time, and this whole bigfoot thing was kind of getting in my head a little bit. So I started researching a little bit.

14:44 And of course I liked hunting as well, so it took me to how to Hunt. That's Steve, but I didn't go there for his bigfoot. I went there because I enjoyed listening to his stories that he had guiding and he's got some hilario stories. Scott's out a career over the guy again the British Club in Alaska. So and don't you know, the second episode I listened to, he brings up Bigfoot and that's when the whole bigfoot thing blew up with him. Big for society, who will be right back after these messages?

15:33 So that in turned led me to listen to him on a I think it's called spaced out radio, and I thought, well, this is pretty cool, the spaced out radio. And then there's another guy that came came in after him that taught metaphysics, and I reach out to that guy. And in twenty twenty I really started getting into metaphysics, and you know, that's like, you know, the whole nature of lights, consciousness and the universe, and using both sides of your head, both sides of your brain and Sold twenty twenty rolls around in the spring and I go back out there. I'm setting in a made up blind, just a tree laid down. I took some brush and set around and I'm calling. And in the morning I couldn't get on. They wouldn't. There's sometimes they just won't come to a call up there. And so I went back out in the in the evening it was gonna hunt, and I said, well, I'll just set up down here where I know they're gonna come back, you know, to roost.

16:39 And I was sitting there and across the road there's a road between me, just a road that runs up gravel road runs up through there and from these other ridges I'm talking about. So I'm across across the road probably you know, three quarters of a mile from the ridge that I told you were all this activities going on. And I hear this. It's it's a screen. I guess you could call the screen. And I'm like, are you serious? And it did it twice so I just I always laugh, and I just stood up and I just did this really long whoop, and I sat on the ground laugh and I thought, this is freaking hilarious. Let's see what happens here, you know, And so I just sat there and kind of gave them to myself. And it couldn't have been ten minutes later. Where I'm setting this, I mean a big pastures pasture runs for a mile on top of this hill, and below it is straight down one hundred and fifty to one hundred and seventy five yards almost straight down to the bottom pasture. And and I'm at the U. I'm at the I'm at the where the U starts, and the U across from me, about fifty five yards is where the ridge. So I'm I'm on one side of the ridge. You go across the field fifty yards, there's the other side to go straight down. So I'm at this U, and all of a sudden, I hear this.

18:00 Now now like there's so many coyotes up there and there's no houses around, and I'm like, there's no way that's a cat, and it sounded like a weird cat. And I grabbed my shotgun and I take off running. Well, as I'm running, i can hear this talking, like talking, people talking, and I'm like, there's somebody old here. I thought somebody was messing with me and possibly, you know, there's nobody supposed to be up there trespass and we run a lot of people off over the years. I run over there fast as I can and there's nobody there. There's nothing there. There's no way they could have out. I mean, they had to go straight over the hill.

18:40 It's one hundred and fifty yards down. You could see it's wide open, some of them at woods, wide open woods. And I'm like, yeah, it's time to go. This is crazy. So I hunted out there about four more times before I killed a bird. I went back down in the bottom pasture over there where that creek was instead of blind Done, because there was a bird who was coming down there every day. I kept seeing them. Someone set to the blind us because you really they're they're really weird. Sometimes they just want them to call them. So you've got to sneak in there, and you know, you maybe scratch the leaves or do some technique or just get in front of them, you know, try to sneak up and get in front of them, for you can kill these birds really hard, pull show birds. And I'm sitting in that blind and the next thing I know, right up on the side of that ridge, it sounded like somebody shot a gun. It was a tree snapping, tree break, and it I literally jumped out of the blind. I'm like what and I'm like, there's no way that broke.

19:38 And then that whole feeling because I will tell you after the very first time, when that thing mimicked me. I don't know why. I don't know why I do this, but I always you know, when when I figured it was bigfoot or some type of something going on out there. When I get out of that my vehicle, my truck, I always say a prayer. I don't want to see you. I'm just here to hunt. I want to see it in my mind, That's what I say. And that feeling came over me, like you're not supposed to be here. You're out, and I'm like, I'm out, and I I grabbed the gun and I take the zip out. As soon as I take a step out, Oh, the second tree breaks and these got to be huge breaks. I mean, these aren't. This just sounds like a gun going off, So I zip up, hit the door, and I'm gone come back. The next day, end up killing a bird up on top of the hill and I was done.

20:31 So that leads into the following year gun And the first week I ended up harvesting a buck with a bow on another farm. So I wanted I didn't want to shoot a dough down there, so I wanted to come down here and shoot a dough. So I go down there, and I go back and I and there's no deer. I mean, actually the same way I go back the ridge, there's no deer. This is the morning hunt. So I'm coming back out and and as I'm going and walk in the woods, getting ready to come out into the pasture, and I'm about maybe forty yards from the pasture, I look up and there's a dough walking across the pasture. I'm like, oh my gosh, Well, I've got an old Henry two forty three co long ranger and this thing is dead nuts, two fifty dead nuts.

21:19 And I lay my pack down and I walk up about maybe eight yards, put the gun against a tree. Doom whackered just right behind the shoulder, half spine shot. She flips over. She's belly up on, legs are straight up, and I'm like done, turn around. I take eight steps, grab my pack, turn around, and she's gone. And so I just take off running, thinking well, maybe I just grazed her. And I run out there and there's no deer and the only way she could go is is eighty yards maybe eighty yards. Each direction is a ridge that runs up two hundred yards and it's wide open woods.

22:01 I mean you can see up to the top of the hill because it's been logged. I mean, you know, it's nice woods. But there's there's nothing, no deer, and there's blood on the ground, no deer. I stood there for thirty minutes, just setting looking and then I went looking for each direction. Never never saw the deer. And I'll go for a fact the deer. It was only a ninety eighty ninety yard shot. I'm telling you right now, there's no something took the deer. There's no way that deer got up if it would have got up by the time I turned around a look, was only four to five seconds. Maybe you know what I'm saying, ten seconds. Anyway, I walked up on the sides. You know, there was no prints going up in there anyway, that was a weird one, and I'm like, yeah, so and then you know, you get that feeling that you know you're not alone.

22:54 So I said, whatever you know, they can, they can, you can have it. So I took off and just chalked that one up for them, and I didn't come back. But the other guy that hunts down there kept telling me. He's like, man, there's no deer dinner. I'm like, oh, he goes, what happened all the deer? I said, I have no idea. So at this time, I was at our local Chevrolet dealership and I was in getting my vehicle serviced and there was an old man in there and he started telling people where he lived, and I'm like, that is literally right up the road from Rode. So a couple of people cut out. It was just met him and this woman and I kind of went over and sat by him. I asked him where he lived, and all I'm like, let me ask you something. I said, have you ever heard anything out there you can't explain?

23:42 And he looks around and he's like, well, I can just tell you this. He said, when it starts a hollering, my dog's going out of the porch and my wife starts a crying, and he said, I tell her it's okay, it's not going to hurt us. And I'm like, no, exactly what you're saying. So so I didn't have a problem. And I've talked to several people in the area, and you know, there's a there's a guy brothers, a set of brothers that hunt about maybe a mile and a half down from where I hunt this farm, and they saw a dog man and they've been ridiculed for I was told two or three years they were just ridiculed by everybody by telling their story. So I never talked to them. I don't know who they are or whatever, but I can't tell you this. This farm has been on all right. So whenever I went on the started researching the big Foot, of course I was. I was listening to Steve and then I got on Sas Squat's chronicles and that was like when it first started, right, And there was a guy that came on that started talking about Kentucky and on the Ohio River and where they went to look for arrowheads. And as he's telling it, I'm like, I know exactly where he's at. He was on this farm and he started talking about seeing the little Indians, the two foot Indians in full garb down on the river. He was taking a break walk down

25:14 and these two Indians come walking down the hill stop and looked at it. He looked at them for my couple about a minute, and then they turned on and walk back. And so I'm like, it's several episodes, different episodes that have been on set Squatch Chronicles is from the same area. It's kind of blew my mind that that was. So what I did was that winter, I took a digital quarter, put new batteries in it, went up there. I call it. I call it Harryman Ridge. I go up on Airyman Ridge, the top Airyman Ridge, and hat it to a tree and I put it in an oak tree to where it kind of had a limb coming out and it had a hole so I could kind of slip it up in that hole where semi proof, you know, the water wouldn't get in it.

26:02 So and I let it sit there for two weeks. I don't know how long did the battery finally died. And I've got two really good recordings, and one is the long howl that's long howl into this thing. It sounds like a siren. And then while it's going on, you can hear another one on the other ridge. Well, then the other the other sound. I could only say it sounded like a monster. It was the most disturbing sound that I've ever If I heard something like that, I'm out out immediately. I would not be I don't care where I heard it, where I was at, if I got the zoo, I'm hidding out the door if I heard this. So I gave that to my friend, and that was when, let me just put it this way. Hypothetically, if you were to give something, give that to a person that worked for a state agency, and they would forward forward that up that that up to the state agency to the higher ups. Only do you get kicked back down and told you if you sent like something up there again like that, you'd be you'd be fired, hypothetically.

27:14 So after that, I was like, I just come to the to the that this is real. This is a real thing going on here, and you know, I'm not gonna sugar sugar could it anyway? You know it's yeah. So from that point on, I definitely took more serious when I would go there hunting. I would I would make sure that I said my little prayer that I didn't want to see him, and that did work to a point, you know. I I went up there. I can't remember. It was like the following year I didn't harvest a buck with a bow. Was having a hard time trying to find a nice buck and normally take a couple of dos. Normally I hunt you know, different states elk and mule deer, so it kind of limits the amount of time I can stay in Indiana hunt with a gun anyway. But so it was late season and I decided to go up there, and I went all the way back to the creek and there's a there's like a dip runs down before the back and I cut up there and when there's a cedar thicket and I found rubs up there the size of my leg.

28:21 I'm like, man, and they're fresh. I'm like, there's a nice buck in here. So I slipped back out and it was Indiana has a It was a late dough season. They don't have anymore, but they used to have a late dough season. It was actually like the last week right before January, so and this buck was on it and I'm like, so I'm going to take a rifle in one hand, in one arm, I had a four to fifty Bushmaster in an ar platform and a crossbow. I wasn't going to take my regular bow because the crossbow I could put on my shoulders because I'm gonna have to climb this hill and it's a bear and there was no rope there, so you got to grab out. It's a flat well there's like a So I did that and it starts getting daylight. It was taking me a long time to it. It was wet and I was sliding back down. I had to get back up, and I finally got about fifteen yards from and this area that I'm looking at is going to look like it's a bowl. So when you're up on top, it's like a bowl facing you, you know, and the ridge along the top and it probably from me to the top of the bowl is about one hundred yards. And so there's this rock wall. This is this natural rock wall that you have to walk up between these two where these rocks it fell so you can get up to where you can actually stand and be able to see the whole bowl. So where I'm at, I can't really see a whole lot except for right over here on my right, where that ceedar thicket is well. And

29:51 I'm hoping to get up here because I know they're bedding in a seedar thicket and they're going to come out right a daylight. So I'm slipping up through there. And when I get up almost to the the top, I can look up where I can see in the. Ball big for society, who will be right back after these messages. I'm still I'm about maybe eight yards from this rock wall, and I look up and I can see deer, and I'm like, oh my god, they're already there. So I look up. There's like three doe and here comes another dough out. So I'm like, all right, well, the books got to be coming, So put the ar down. I grabbed my crossbow, put a bolt in. It's already cocked back.

30:42 Just one of the book. Put a bolt in it. I get it ready, and I'm looking all right, and then there's deer after deer. There must have been like eleven does that come out of this thicket? And I'm like, man, the bucks out of be in here, the bucks out to be in here. And then the next thing I know all breaks lukes. Here comes these deer and the only they can run down towards me is through this little opening in the wall, which is like eight yards from me, right and here comes these deer and they're running down towards me, and they're everywhere. I mean, by the time they all come down through there, there's eleven deer anywhere from four yards from me to twenty yards.

31:27 And I'm looking around and they're all looking at me, and then they I'm like, I had a Crossbow'm like, well, I'm gonna shoot out to the worst. I couldn't figure out what was really going on at this moment. I'm like, what's going on? And then they all look back up the hill and I'm like, look, and when I look up the hill, I can see it running up the hill. This thing I can only say. I mean, I know it was a sasquatch. It was huge with a deer on his back, with I had about two seconds before it hit the top of the hill. Then I'm like, well, I'm not going to shoot a deer now. I'm out, I think if running and I come on back down the hill because I at that moment when I saw it cross the top of the hill. I got that feeling.

32:10 I'm not gonna say it was mind speak because it was born a feeling, but that you don't belong or get out, get out, you know. And so I'm off, man, I was back well, I was back home before eight o'clock, you know. So, But so that was the that was kind of the pinnacle of that of my experience there. I still hunt that farm. I don't so the following year. Most of my friends know what's going on. One of my good friends, he won't hunt there. He found a footprint he used to he used to hunt. He would hunt like in the pasture. He wouldn't go out in the woods. And then he found a footprint in the creek and the pasture. He won't let the he won't let it all now. And then most everybody else, I mean, some of the people that that that, they'll tell me I'll log up there and I'll shoot it, and and I'm like, yeah, yeah, ain't gonna happen. But yeah, I've never had a negative experience up there. So I took one friend of mine and he said, hey, man, I don't believe any of that stuff. I'll hunt up there with you. I'm like, let's go. So we hunted up there for I think it was either the second or third week of gun season weekend, and he hunted up in a really good spot. I call this one ridge Harryman Ridge because not only that's where most of it's happened, but like in the spring, if you walk up that hill about eighty yards, you don't hear anything. There's no squirrels,

33:42 there's no birds, there's nothing. It's I mean, you can hear the highway cars going by, but there's no animal sounds, no birds, nothing. That ridge runs for a mile a mile or longer. And then once you come off that ridge and you walk back down and you get maybe eighty ninety yards from the pasture, then you start seeing the birds. You hear the birds you hear, so it so looks like a dead zone. It's really weird. So he was hunting before that on a ridge that connects to that, which is really a good spot. There's in this full of white oaks, and he was really excited. He had seen a great big buck. I mean, they're still deer there, but they're far and few in between, you know what I'm saying. But he saw a buck and a dough and a kyak was chasing him, so he couldn't get a shot. He said, they ran past him too fast. So but he was really excited because he'd seen the buck. So we go back out the next day and I'm like, look, man, if you don't see anything, I said, hold off and don't come down that ridge until I call you, because I want to beat at the bottom and I want you to walk down this certain way in case you see something. In the past you've pushed deer, you might push a deer to me. He said, yeay, oh okay. So I get I don't see anything. I come down and I can see his blaze orange had it the truck. I'm like, man, I told him not to come down until I got down here. And I walk over there and I could immediately tell something happened because he was quiet, he wasn't talking.

35:10 He got in the truck and I like seeing it. He said no, and so we started heading home and he's like, hey, man, I don't believe in this stuff, you know, but I just want to tell you what I seen. And I said, what what you see? And he's like, something dug a hole up there? He said it was it was two and a half three foot around and a foot and a half deep, and he said, whatever dug It took chunks out the size of a of a of a football. He said, what could do that? And I'm like, I don't know. I said, maybe it was a bear. You know, I mean there's bears right across the river. Kentucky's got bears. You know what I'm saying, Burnham Forrest, Fork Knocks, there's bears over there. Bears come over to Harrison County, you know, we'd not like we haven't had him before. I said, maybe it's a bear.

35:55 He goes, I bet it's a bear. Then he said but I didn't see any claw marks or anything, and I'm like, well, I don't know. So he bailed out. He wasn't going to hunt the next day. So I got home on my thinking. I was like, I'm going back up to see what he's talking about. So I go back up there, and it was kind of eerie going back up there. But when I got up there, I seen what he was talking about. But when I got down there looking, I could see roots, and I'm like, this is weird, man, And I want you to know. I walked about one hundred and fifty yards down that ridge and there it is. It was two trees that were stuck upside down in the ground with a root ball sticking up. Now that's not the first time. That's the first time I ever seen one with a root ball.

36:40 But the we've seen structures up there before. And actually I've seen structures now that I think about it, you know, before I think we've saw I think I've been seeing structures a long time. Maybe I just never saw them or whatever. I don't know, but I mean, we've seen structures where they kind of looks like a TP structure, but they're gone. The next time you go back here, it's gone. They're not. They don't stay there, you know. Same with this thing is because I went and got my one buddy, I said, you got to see this, you get come up there, and it was gone. The trees were gone. So but he never came back and hunted after that. But you know, and once that had happened, okay, I never had an issue anywhere. I'd never run it ever.

37:25 I never had any And that year I went elk hunting. Well, we would always backcountry camp when we're hunting, too, and it was an Idaho and my buddy I was going to slip up where I'd been seeing these bulls the day before, and I didn't know he was gonna come up behind me. So I climbed upside this mountain as far as I wanted to go, and it still was just getting daylight. And next thing I know, I get this text and it's my Buddy's like, hey, man, I just shot a bullets running down towards you. I'm like what, He's like, Yeah, I just shot a bullets running down towards you. Well, i'd heard something running running up there, but I didn't know what it was. I didn't know he was that close. He was going to the top of the mountain and just happened to run into his bowl walking across this meadow and shot it and it ran right in where I was on me. So he's like, just sit still and I'll text you back whenever we want to go look for it. I'm like whatever. So I sat down and this is a this is a high mountain desert hunt. You know, we're only about eight thousand at the most, sixty five to eight. I'm on the side of the mountain that has dark timber. The mountain across from me is a sage mountain. It's nothing but sage, all right, It's a sage. And I still can't quite see all the across. One thing is because I'm in dark timber. I can't see the mountain side.

38:44 Something starts whooping, who starts whooping, and I'm like starting like here, somebody is filming an episode of Finding Bigfoot over there. Oh that's a big foot. And it whooped about six times and I'm like really loud, and I've just set there kind of giggling. I'm like, I can't believe this. Man. So he texted me and we walk up there and then bulls laying dead, not twenty yards and so we're sitting there getting ready to cut this thing up and take it out, and I'm like, man, did you hear those those whoops? And he's like, yeah, I think it was a whooping crane. Whooping crane don't make whoops like that, man. So it's kind of weird.

39:28 Ever since that happened. I in Colorado last year. I was hunting in Colorado. I come down the side of this mountain and I found this chair. I mean, this was like someone had put I mean, I don't think a human could do it because the rocks that had to be stacked up to set I mean, this was like a chair that someone had made out of rocks to overlook this bowl up in the mount. It's beautiful spot, especially we're gonna rifle line, but I have a bow hunting. But and I got looking at him like something had to put these rocks around here, and I couldn't even think about I don't even think two grown men could lift the one that I was setting on to set it up on top of there. But you could tell it had been setting up. Very interesting, very interesting. So now of course I see a lot more. You know, I was bear hounding in Ontario and we were back on this back in the bush, and it would you know, they're always mining. There's a lot of mining going on, and they had mined asbestos and so they when they and I guess it was in the eighties when they stopped doing that asbestos mining, they they covered them with lamb.

40:40 So these lakes up there, ponds, small, what do you want to call them? They're white, They have a white bottom because that's the lamb. That's where they cap them off. Right, And we would go up on top of this hill to be able to get cell phone signal, and we would be overlooking this white lake with a white bottom, and it was only about maybe four in our four foot deep most of the most of it was, and then one corner had a deep spot. And I'm up on top of there looking I'm like, I could see a set of footprints that walks all the way across the lake, and it's that it was five foot between each footprint, and the footprints looked like they were almost, you know, foot and a half long. I'm like, look at those footprints. I'm like, there's freaking sasquatch footprints that they're like, you're crazy. I'm like, I'm telling you right now. Well, we didn't really have a guide. We had the guide to kind of put it all together that lived there, and he came up and I was like, hey, I want to show you something. I'm like, check that out.

41:37 He's like, get a sasquatch. Like that's what I thought. That's what I thought, just like it was nothing. I'm like, yeah, that's what I thought it was. So it's just interesting how you know, it's almost like whenever you see him and when you're you you start having the more experiences they have. It's like you have experiences everywhere, you know, every about every place you go. The same with you know, Hearing, Indiana. So it's it's just there's just so many places now that you can go. My buddy went and camped at Harrison Crawford State Forest and had these you know, in the middle of the summer, ninety degrees and there was trees dropping around everywhere. I mean, you know, we're just like to look at each other like there's no win.

42:18 So many different things. So so yeah, that's that's about it. I mean I still go up there. I don't hunt as much on that on that farm, but I know when I do, you know, you know they're there. And I've never had like I said, I mean, you know, I get people that want to go out and research them and try to answer the questions, but really I don't. I don't know what answers you can get. I mean, you know what I'm saying. I mean, I think they've been here for a long time. I think they're an dimensional. I think all the all of the cryptids are somewhat interdimensional. You know. But I know when you open your mind and you start using both sides your brain, the paranormal becomes the normal.

42:59 So absolutely when you when you open that up, it's not getting closed again, tell you that much. It's it's a hard, hard win close it up. It's yeah, I. You know, it's a story that I've a variant of the story. I've heard so many times where you have that one that one encounter or a few encounters that just open you up, and then you start going other places and it happens to it in the other places too. It's just it's it's so weird, and you know, I don't get it. But it's like either they realize that you're opened up to it or I don't know. But I do have some questions for you about this area in Indiana, which is just a really interesting area down there.

43:49 Do you have any of those audio recordings still? I do. They're on my old computer, so I can I can try to send them to you. I used to have the pictures and everything. It's been like five years because after like the first after I got that, I put the recorder out there. You know, I'm like, well, you know, what are you gonna do? There's a you know what I mean. I don't know. I'm not. I don't go out there and intentionally look for them. That's one thing I don't do. You know what I'm saying. I mean, and I tell you because I really, you know, I guess it's twofold. I really don't want to see them, you know what I'm saying. I mean, I don't want to have that up close personal encounter if I do.

44:33 You know, I truly believe that that they know. I mean, it's all consciousness. They know. If you've got love in your heart right and you're projecting that love, I don't think you're going to have an issue with them. I think I think those whether they're beings, I think, you know, I'm sure there's there's there's ones out there that are you know, that have a different mindset. I'm sure that's why people have a lot of you know, I mean, guess you get that with people as well, you know, But I think the majority you have them like these these ones out here, I mean, they've never you know, I don't care they took a deer, you know what I'm saying, But I've never had a other than them snapping telling me to leave. Big for society. Who will be right back. After these messages.

45:29 Typically they give you the idea when you're you're supposed to leave, when you're welcomes wore out, they'll let you know. You know what I'm saying, but I can't say I was in I was in Idaho. You know, I've been I've hunted like mountain lion. But and you know, when there's a predator coming in, you always know because everything goes quiet just like this, but not to the extent of that. And I was hunting a wallow over a wallow in South End, Idaho, and literally I could hear every single heartbeat that took that when my heart was beating, it tripped me out. I was like wow, and you know, and then that fear comes over you. And I was like, I don't know whether to start whistling, you know, but you're making noises just so you're not going out of your mind. You know, No, absolutely, I have that happened.

46:18 I never saw anything from that, and eventually and it went away. It went away, you know what I'm saying. But I don't think it was a mountain line. I really don't, because you know, once you start looking at where you where you hunt, then you start looking to see there's any any sasquatch tridings, and you're like, oh, well, yeah, there's that. I mean, if you live in British Columbia you don't seen the sasquatch, well then you know you're you're not a normal person. Everybody sees sasquatch in British. Absolutely. Yeah. I tend no wonder if they don't come here to have babies. That's that's a really interesting idea. You know, or fifth dimension or fourth dimension little critter and they come in here to have babies. I don't know, but I wouldn't want to tell you. I have one other one, gosh almost for I tell you so this is the most This is one that really kind of freaked me out. I was turkey hunting two years ago, same place. I was on top of that field, and I've never heard a whoop out there. The only whoops I've ever heard is in Idaho. All I've heard is this howl and this scream or it really sounds like a freaking sorn. And I've talked to people that live in that area and they're like, I know exactly what you're talking about. Anyway. So I'm setting back three quarters a mile of road all the way back this pasture.

47:35 Now I'm trying to catch this one tom that was walking across the pasture going to it. Was a big tom and he would come to a call and I'm like, I almost slip out. So this pasture has these like creaks in them. They're just like ditches that run out into the field. And it might run out like forty or fifty yards into this field into the pasture, and they'll have a small tree. So I kind of walked out there and sit down in there and put some brush up around me so I could just catch him shooting whim as you walk past right a bus shooting And so that's what I did. And I'm sitting out there and I'm like, man, he's already walked by. He should have already walked by. And by this time it starts getting dark, and I'm like, I can't believe this turkey never walked by. And about that time and I like, I said, I'm fifty yards behind me is the woods and this woods behind me. It runs down about I don't know, one hundred and twenty five, one hundred and fifty yards and then goes back up a long ridge that runs back up to this other road. So there's a good quarter mile between me and this other road of woods that basically this I don't know if it runs down even more than a couple hundred yards, but it runs down and then back up. I don't really hunt that because this farmer don't on that. So out of the woods to my right, I hear a whoop, and I'm like, you gotta be joking. I've never heard a whoop up here. And then to my left, I hear a loop. So basically there's one on each each out of me behind me, and I'm like, it's time to go. I grab my gun, I grabbed my pack, I throw them my pack, I jump up out, I

49:07 start walking. I walk about fifteen yards and by this time it's getting dark. Right, it's not dark, but I mean it's getting dark. It's fifteen minutes still dark. I turn around, and when I turn around, I can see this glowing light orangish reddish light in the woods, and I'm like, what was that? And it starts coming up and it comes just up, and I would say it's the size of a microwave turned up. It's kind of squarish looking, it's about the size of a microwave, and it's coming up and it's pretty orange. I mean it's pretty bright, and you could see it come all the way up to the top of the trees, which is probably I almost say eighty feet above. You know, once you get up out the top, you know, the trees are all mature trees, so anywhere fifty to eighty feet and it's just covered here. I'm like, I'm out now.

50:05 I take off across across the field and I probably went, I don't know, one hundred yards, kind of not hoofing, but I wouldn't waste no time leaving. And I try and look and it's not there. It's gone, and I was gone. That was the first time I'd ever seen any type of orb orbs or anything like that out there. But yeah, that was a weird one. I never Yeah, I don't know what it was. This. I mean, there's some some brilliant interesting stuff on this property, and I don't think this has come up yet. But so you you are, you're talking back and forth with the owner of this property. Correct, Yes, I've talked to him. I only talked to him one time, and they told me not to never say another word, so I don't talk to him with it.

50:52 They don't want no, no, they do not want to hear about it. I mean most people don't want to hear about it because they'd be scared to death to go walk in woods. I know they've heard it. I know they have, and they're you know, everybody in that area has heard it. I mean there's there's no I mean I've talked to just about every landowner around there at something over in the last five years, and they've all heard it. Even people that live two and a half miles down the road have heard it. I've talked to I mean, I'll see him outside and I'll just stop in and ask them, just talk, don't tell them who I am, and all Andy, have you heard anything? And they're like yep, And I said, well, I heard this sounds like a sirenist exactly exactly. It's really when I say it's a sory, it's like they'll it'll do like I'm trying to think of what is that the one they call is that the Ohio sound? How right? Yeah? Yeah? Yeah, So it sounds very similar to that, but it goes into this. It all sounds like an ambulance siren. It's really weird, really weird, I mean, but yeah, very interesting, very interesting stuff. But like I said, you know, I mean, I'm there really came out, and like I told you, I don't really you know, go on podcast or anything like that and tell the story and all. But I just thought it for once I would share it, you know, And because it's I'm telling you, man, there's so much out there. I was telling you on the phone. My friend owns some property in Harrison County and she has one hundred acres and she jogs and she has things

52:23 whistling at her all the time. And so we went up. We went up there. It was like maybe a month and a half ago, and there was well I won't get that might devote too much information, but there was a house. There's some witchcraft done on the property years ago. And she got a picture of a dog. Man like I told you, it's making its rounds on Reddit right now. So she said it to me. I'm like, yeah, I don't know what else it could be other than that, And that's what it looks like. A walking wolf so with a tail. And so we went down there and we were I'm gonna do kind of like a little paranormal investigation. But it was it was so hot when we went down there that one of the we had a doctor that was coming uh and she couldn't make it or there's just too hot. So anyway, we ended up going back on her property, their barn, and there was three of us thing there and I just grabbed this stick and just whacked it on this tree a couple times. And I'm not a tree whacker. I don't like, I said, I don't know go looking for any of us, and they're like, what are you doing. I'm just kind of giggling. I'm like, oh, that's how you call on a sasquatch. Well it wasn't. Probably three minutes later the over I've never smelled. People say you smell, I've smelled it.

53:39 Now this smell come over top of us. It would We almost threw up and we're like, I'm like and they couldn't figure out what it's sound like. Well, I can tell you right now. Most people will smell this and smell like death. It's big foot. We never saw. I tried to com I tried to get see your eyes or something, but it didn't show anything. And so and it probably went away within you know, for four or five minutes, the smell went away. But I couldn't get my one buddy to shut the flashlight off, like turn a light off. He's I am not doing this off. Shut the light off so we can see what he would. That's wild. Yeah, great, two things.

54:20 If and I know you said it was on like it's on an old computer. If if you do, if it is something where you are able to find the audio clips, or it would be you know, it would be cool to check them out. If if that's a thing where you'd be able to share them. But I'll leave that up to you. Also, uh okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, I can look for. The one sighting you actually did have where you saw one with the deer over its back. So was that primarily a back view of the sasquatch running away from you? Then back you back. I can see a shoulder like its shoulders, and right down to about where its butt was.

55:05 There was two or three trees at the top of this bowl. There's a lot of trees that it fell because this place hadn't really been logged a long time, so there's a lot of big trees. I mean, you know, eighty ninety year old oak trees and there's several that's fell. So when it was running up the hill when I past this blowdown, so I couldn't see its legs. All I could see from about words butt was up to its head, you know. But I could see the deer playing this day, but it wasn't the buck. So that was a good sign. But yeah, you know, there's been so many things. We found a deer, a deer that was cutting half down, there no blood around, had one its head and its front legs and it's half its ribcage, you know, what's words. Rib cage was yeah, really weird.

55:54 I mean I was like, you know, I've seen all kinds of predation. I've never seen anything like that. But that was years ago, that was before all this even happened. So I tend to think maybe they've been there for a while, they just never I don't know if they moved into that area. It to me, it's almost like they moved in because like I said, we we ran that them woods forever when we were kids. So I don't I mean my whole that's my that's where you know we hunted. I mean, that was our hunting spot. We hunted that, you know, every season, every day we could and just never had anything like this happen. Goodness, And so my friend he kind of quit hunting there because I started telling Aboudy He's like, I don't believe any of that. And then he was like, I know you were in there last weekend. I'm like, what are you talking about. He's like, you followed me in. I'm like, I didn't fall again. He's like, yeah you did. He was I heard you you walk when I walked, you stop when I stopped, and I couldn't see it because my flashlight. All he had was a little flashlight that goes on the brim of his hat, those little ones he goes. That's why I couldn't see. I'm like, dude, I didn't go hunt last weekend. That was not me.

56:58 He's I mean they think it was me, Like, it wasn't me. That that would freak me out. Dude, Wow, it's crazy. Yeah, I'm telling you my friends, none of them all down there. None of them will. Yeah, but I've got other people want to go. But they're like I'm going down there and shoot it. I'm like, man, you're not going down there. I mean, you know what I'm saying. I mean, you go down there looking for trouble, then you're you're going to get trouble. Let me tell you, no offense or butts. But I mean, like I said, I really truly think that they read people and they know and I think a lot of times that's why a lot of people that are going through tough, really tough times in their life see them. Oh you get it, get it? I really do you don't you get it? Dude? Yeah, yep, yep, you know what I'm saying.

57:41 Oh, I get you. I mean I be the same And people take that the wrong way. Yeah, people think that the wrong way that you know, even they understand that. It's like love is the highest vibration. There is no higher vibration in love. And when you go into any situation and you you're projecting love, you can get your heart space. You know, things don't come in to come your way. So and I don't think I think it's the same way with them. I think they can feel you, they can read you, you know. But and that's why I don't have a problem going down there. You know, people want to go down there and do investigations they want to do that. I'm like, man, I'm not going down there to just mess with them, you know what I'm saying, because there's so much more. I mean, I get it. I mean I would like to know what they are. But you know, I think that'll come out. I think that'll eventually come out, you know. So, but I definitely think there's a UFO connection without a doubt whether and whether that is a UFO or that's just an interdimensional because who knows what that light could have been, that could have been, you know anything. I mean, who am I I don't know, just some redneck from Indiana.

58:43 I think, well, one, you you've been through it all down there, and I say, Bill, thank you for sharing what you've experienced so far. But I think, man, uh, info's coming out, So we need to be ready for the info to come out this year and the next year. I mean, some wild stuff it's gonna be put out there. I got a feeling, but it's only gonna get weirder. Man, That's right, That's gonna be great. And I think the people that are metaphysically aware of the people that are the people that are metaphysically metaphysically aware those people are gonna be fine. It's the NPCs. It's really going to have the problems. So oh yeah, I mean because they have to go from serious sixty. But Bill Pleasure, thank you so much for spending your time for sharing with us what you experienced.

59:30 Keep us in the loop with what happens to you in the future for sure. And I just appreciate you coming on man. Sure will. I appreciate you a man. Keep up the good work. Just wanted to take a few minutes to say thank you to you all my listeners for listening to the podcast. Please take a minute to help out the show by subscribing on YouTube, making sure you hit the bell so you don't miss any notifications, and share the episode on YouTube with a friend. Also, so if you're listening to us on a podcast, thank you so much. Make sure that you're subscribed, share the show with a friend. Really, it's all about sharing the show wherever you can. If you've had a Bigfoot encounter related to the following, or know someone who has, please reach out to me at Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com or pass on my email.

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