"I Heard the Whoops at Night: My Unsettling Encounters with Bigfoot in East Texas"

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My wife. We talk about things
going on at the house when I'm gone.

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She heard it at least eight lap
wooden knocks occurring one night over an

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hour. Every five minutes. There'd
be a knock every three and every two

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and every minute. It was like
somebody with a baseball bat hitt this huge

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tree that we have. She said, it felt like something was trying to

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lure her outside, so she made
sure not to walk in front of any

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windows to avoid being seen. She
looked out front and didn't see anything going

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on, and she said it sounded
like it was coming from the backyard distinctly,

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that's where the edge of our forestes. And the longer she didn't respond,

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the more frantic and the more it
occurred. Either you're listening to the

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Society. I've taken far too much
of your time so far, so let's

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get on with the show, all
right, Bigfoot Society. I got the

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privilege of talking to Mike from East
Texas today. He contacted me about some

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interesting things that have been going on
around his area. And as you may

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if you're familiar with Bigfoot at all, there's definitely some Bigfoot things going on

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in the East Texas area. But
how's it going tonight, Mike? All

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right? How are you doing over
there at Jeremiah. I'm doing good.

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We're starting to get a little bit
chilly out here in central Iowa, but

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I think we might have a little
bit of a little warm period. But

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for right now, it's pretty chilly. It's about twenty to thirty. Oh

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yeah, yeah. Not familiarity with
Bigfoot is it begins. I remember being

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a kid and seeing a few episodes
where they started featuring Andre the Giant dressed

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up as Bigfoot, living out in
Austin as a kid and hearing the occasional

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story from the other school kids about
bigfoots and stuff like that, but I

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never gave it any merit. I
never believed in it. I put it

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out there with snipe hunting and fairies
and elves and that kind of stuff.

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I thought it was more like a
joke trying to get somebody's goat. And

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I always figured anything that big would
have been in a zoo or a museum

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years ago. Yeah, that was
my knowledge. The Abominable Snowman was a

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clamation character, and I had more
faith in the possibility of extra terrestrials than

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Bigfoot, and even that was very
sketchy. Yeah, I was never like

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I hadn't even seen the Patterson Gemlin
film until I think probably the eighties,

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and then Harry and Henderson's came out. I didn't even watch that. I

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just recently saw that on Netflix or
whatever the heck it was streaming it with

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my life. But our Bigfoot encounter, and this involves my wife and myself,

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it wasn't visual, thank god,
but we are now both believers.

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And I bet a lot of other
people have similar experiences, but they just

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brushed them off of something else.
And it's only until only when when you

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really look closely around yourself and other
things and open your mind to possibilities that

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I believe people can start seeing signs
and finding footprints and other signs, hearing

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the things and recognizing that, oh, that's not an hol or what have

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you. But I think a lot
of people don't disclose these weird things that

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they brush off either because they don't
want people to think they're nuts, and

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especially if you have a professional reputation, you don't want to endanger that.

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Our house is over sixty years old, it's outside city limits, backup to

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a large vast forest, and the
only access to our backyard is through the

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front, and it's a busy highway, and we would see intruders through our

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windows if anyone was in the front
areas or coming up to the front.

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We have no trespassing signs and often
shoot my forty fives and fifty caliber out

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back, which I believe the ters
thieves pretty well. So we've never had

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anyone snooping around on our property,
trespassing or proaching everything like that since we

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moved here over five years ago.
And that's generally how it is out in

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the country. People know everybody's armed
and so they don't screw around with people

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like that out here. When we
moved in, the house had a bright

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mercury out in the front driveway which
would come on automatically when the sun went

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down, and I thought it was
creepy and weird. I never really thought

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much about it, but now looking
back, I think it was put up

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and used us what they would refer
to out here in the country as a

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booger light, which is a deterrent
for these things. And I guess you

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could say it started October twenty twenty, twenty twenty two, my wife heard

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a man's voice. I was out
of town and she heard a man's voice

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from outseide side the glass door that
connects to our car port we're entry into

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that it's open and easy to get
to, and she heard a man's voice

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loudery. But she looked and she
saw no one out through the window of

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the door. But it creaked her
out, scared her, so she stayed

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out of that room for weeks and
shut and locked both doors. She thought

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it was She brushed it off as
an auditory hallucination. Maybe somebody across the

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street yelling, we do have neighbors
across the highway, and her house can

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act like a speaker. It's a
brick house, and when they're on the

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front porch, the sound carries it
all the way across the highway at times,

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but they have to really be yelling
loud or do better, making a

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lot of noise. But he brushed
it off. Let's see. I think

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it was April twenty twenty two.
We both heard a from the forest on

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coming back home from somewhere and I
asked her, you'd heard that before,

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and she said that she's heard it
many times before, but she just thought

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it wasn't out. You see.
That's what I mean. People just brush

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all this off. And then around
May, we were out hiking at a

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state park that's nearby US where no
hunting is allowed, but it's heavily populated

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with deer. And while we were
hiking, we found two lower front legs

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of a deer that were torn off
and they were placed close together, side

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by side. They weren't cut off, but they were torn off, and

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you could tell from the way the
hide was mangled around the edges and there

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was no blood around them. There
were no ants, just two broken front

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legs. And I thought that's just
weird. And it took me several months

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had to go by before I put
it together and heard that other people who

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had had actual sightings their properties and
encounters and things of that nature that they

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had found me. There's even a
number of people that have actually seen these

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creatures grab a dough or far or
small deer, grab a hold of it,

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rip the lower front legs off to
hobble it so it can place it

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down and hide if there was a
car or someone coming, so the animal

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wouldn't get away, and it would
keep it alive until it grabbed it and

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then was able to take its quarry
elsewhere and assume that. Yes, that

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was about thirty minutes away from our
place by the way. And in December

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twenty twenty two, we were out
while I was out of town. It

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was about ten eleven o'clock. My
wife heard loud footsteps crunching around in the

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backyard right up against the wall of
our den, and she was in the

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den watching TV and she could hear
it through the wall. It was that

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loud, but when she looked out
there, she didn't see anything. But

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it was also extremely dark where you
look out the window, but you can't

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see anything because I lie inside's reflecting
out the glass, and she just brushed

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it off. She thought maybe it
was a deer or something. Now,

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March of twenty twenty three, this
is when it really starts getting strange.

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I had been trying to develop this
back area behind our house where it goes

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down into a little creek, a
little hollow area back there into my feed

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plot where I could hunt locally in
my backyard. And I put in a

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feeder, deer feeder, and I
wanted to attract deer back there, so

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I took a jar of peanut butter
and took the lid off, screwed the

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lid to a tree with deck screws, and open the jar up, put

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it back on, and then cut
the bottom out of it. And that's

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to allow the beer to come up
and lick right out of it. And

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it was unscrewed. I went out. It was about two three days later.

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I went to go check on it, on the progress of it,

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and it was unscrewed from the lid, laying on the ground and totally empty.

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Not a micro trace of peanut butter
remained in it. And I brushed

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it off as raccoons, But looking
back at it, the raccoon would have

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to climb up the tree about five
feet, grip it with its bottom legs,

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straddle this tree that was about nine
inches in diameter, and then unscrew

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the lid with both of its little
raccoon hands, turning it to the left,

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and then not leave a trace of
peanut butter at the jar. That

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and then removed the jar. It
was just weird. I don't know.

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I thought, Okay, I'll use
apples instead. So I'd buy a bag

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of green apples, sometimes red from
Walmart and throw about five or six outre

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near the theater, and the next
day, every apple lot it was just

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totally gone, without a trace,
without a piece of apple anywhere, totally

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gone. Now, Who's going to
eat six apples and not leave a trace?

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Not even a little piece? Just
that. That was strange. So

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I started wondering about this. I
thought, maybe there is something to this,

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because now we're starting to occasionally stream
and watch Finding Bigfoot episode more for

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the comedic relief of Cliff, Bobo
and Matt, and I remember seeing them

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do calls and I thought, oh, you know, I'll just try one

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of these calls, one or two
of these calls. So I did a

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couple of calls and I didn't hear
anything back. There was no reply.

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But what I didn't realize was if
there was something going on out there that

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probably ramped it up. And about
two or three days later, I go

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out there to check on the deer
corn in the feeder, see where the

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level's at, and see if I'm
getting any little deer hooft prints out there,

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and see what kind of activity I
have, And I found a pile

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of scat. It was about six
inches in diameter, aboutn inch and a

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half tall, and it was like
a grayish black color, and it was

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just chalked full of seeds, BlackBerry
seeds, and it was like something had

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eaten five pounds of blackberries and then
defecated into the creek. I had a

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little creek that runs back there,
right next to my feeder, and the

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water flowing around it had reduced its
size. But when I found it was

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about six inches in diameter by inch
half tall, I didn't think much of

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it. I thought maybe it's raccoons. At that time, we had about

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four or five raccoons family of about
three or fourth awsome. We'd had deer

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coming down there. I'd been catching
on my trail cam on a tree nearby.

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We even had a coyote come up
in the yard, and we always

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had codies around here nearby, within
oh gosh, almost two or three nights,

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they'd be within an eighth of a
mile. And needless to say,

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over time, all of those things
disappeared, even our proper heads and our

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water moopsins and other snakes and stuff
that we had there, whatever is out

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there. It depleted the food resources
to practically nothing. So we came back

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one night from visiting family, and
it was about eight thirty, and I

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remembered that I wanted to check on
the deer feed and see if I needed

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to put more deer corn editor or
not. And I didn't usually go down

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there at eight thirty. Was struck
it was getting too dark. This was

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March, and I just never went
down there that late before. I'd always

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gone down there in the mornings or
in the afternoon. But this time I

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went down there and I heard a
single, very low, deep, menacing

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growl about thirty to thirty five feet
from my feet in our creek off to

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my right, and I didn't see
anything. But when I looked just straight

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ahead, I didn't look up into
the tree, which I regret. I

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think whatever it was, it may
have been up in the tree or behind

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some trees, and being down in
a hollow, it could project the sound

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and echo it off something else,
so it maybe sounded like it was coming

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from a different direction. But when
I heard the sound, it was like

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it just a but something inside me
it triggers it. I'm a response that

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told me to leave. We'll be
back with more Bigfoot Society after these words

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from our sponsors. And this is
my property. I'm protective of it.

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I'm armed usually most of the times. I wasn't that time. But if

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it was a guy or an animal
that I could see, I would have

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probably said something to it, stood
up to it. But something inside me

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told me just leave, don't do
anything, don't run, don't there's no

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chance against this thing, whatever it
is. Just walk away and get away.

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And that's what I did. I
didn't even think of standing my own

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ground at that station. And we
haven't seen, Like I said, we

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haven't seen any other animals since May
twenty twenty three, including mice or armadillos

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or squirrels. The squirrels are reduced
down to three squirrels, and it gets

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weirder now May twenty twenty three,
we had a field nice getting a field

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mouse getting our house, and I
knew I was fixing the leaf for a

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trip, so I wanted to make
sure I caught this thing. But I

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knew if it was in one of
those spring traps where it slaps down on

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their head leaves a bloody mess,
that my wife wouldn't want to mess with

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it, so she'd be scared of
it soon. So I went to Walmart

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got one of these green plastic tubuler
what to call a humane trap. It's

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about, I guess, about inch
in a quarter in diameter, about five

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six inches long, dark green.
One end has a sliding door on it

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that slides up, and the other
has a spring loaded door that you push

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in, so you have to have
fingers to release whatever is in there.

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We caught the little mouse, and
I don't have to deal with this because

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two days I had to be out
of town and I was getting my stuff

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ready in my paperwork and my clothes
and everything. So I just took this

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mouse and the trap and put it
on this white vinyl shelf that we have

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gardening implements on out in the backyard. Out of the back of the house,

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and there was a single two inch
wide by six inch long smudge in

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the mud next to the shelf.
The next let me back back here two

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days later when I came back.
When I returned from my trip, after

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I put it on the shelf,
the thing was gone. The trap was

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totally gone, and I thought,
that's weird. The first thing that entered

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my mind was maybe a hot got
to it. But I thought, how's

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a hot going to see it when
it's in the middle of a three tiered

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shelf that's a foot and half to
two feet off the ground, and how's

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it going to grip slippery hard plastic
with his talents couldn't possibly reach around that

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you shaped plastic structure. So I
thought, maybe a raccoon got it,

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maybe this, maybe that, and
just brushed it off. But like I

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said, there was a two inch
by six inch long smudge marking the mud

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next to where the shelf was,
like something had swiped across there, and

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like maybe they were finger marks or
I don't know, digit marks that left

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in the mud. And I still
didn't think much of it. I thought,

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maybe if it was a hawk that
came down, then that's what its

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feet did or something you'd just brush
all this stuff off. I was mowing

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my yard about three weeks after this, on my ride and mower and the

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houses, and let's say you make
a square shape. The house would be

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in the center of the square.
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like a horseshoe because there's one part
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and trees and thinks. So on
one half of that would be a U

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shaped pattern. I would come around
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other and come back again and mow
and had a forty two inch wide swath

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with my riding lower each time,
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On the third ass when I came
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I made two other passes with the
mow on the lowest setting, and I

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walk my yard first before I mowed, make sure I'm not going to run

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over any big sticks or the breed
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picking up pieces of paper or whatever. So I'd walked it first. There

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was nothing out there at all,
and I mowed this area, came through

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nothing there. On the third time
I came back by the green plastic trap

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was back right in the middle of
where I had first mot and there's no

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way I could have go over that. We got there on the mower.

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The mower would have hit it and
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And it was about ten feet from
meage of the forest. And I

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still have the trap by the way
if anybody wants to test it for anything.

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So that got me really freaked out. That got me thinking something with

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an opposable thumb had to pick this
up because the mouse was gone. You

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have to push that door in at
one end, or you have to lift

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the door up at the other,
and both of them were in their closed

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positions, so if it slid the
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If it pushed the other one in, it took its finger out,

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and it was almost like a hand
impression, like the thing was saying more

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mice please. Whatever it was,
thanks for the snack you got any more?

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Yeah, exactly. And it was
just weird. My wife, I

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probably spent about to sometimes three weeks
a month on the road, and we

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talk about things going on at the
house when I'm gone. She heard it

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at least eight loud wood knocks occurring
one night over an hour, and it

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started every five minutes there'd be a
knock, and then it got down to

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every three minutes, and then every
two minutes, and then every minute.

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It was like whatever was making these
loud knocks, which sounded to her like

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somebody with a baseball bat hitting on
this huge tree that we had back behind

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our house, from about twenty five
feet away from the house. And she

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said it felt like something was trying
to lure her outside, so she made

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sure not to walk in front of
any windows to avoid being seen. She

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turned the TV on mute to try
and discern if it was somebody would like

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a pneumatic nail driver nearby or across
the street building a frame structure, or

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a hammer or something. She looked
out front and didn't see anything going on,

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and she said it sounded like it
was coming from the backyard distinctly,

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that's where the edge of our forest
is. And as the longer she didn't

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respond, the more frantic and the
more it occurred, and then it stopped.

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When I returned, I was talking
to her on the phone doing this,

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and when I came back, I
found an area on a pine tree

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that we have that was rubbed smooth
of bark where it was hit by either

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a rock or a limb, and
there was a spot that was, like

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I say, it was rubbed smooth, and directly above that area a got

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one and a quarter inch pine tree
limb was snapped down and pointed down towards

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the house and I'd cut that limb
off, and that was when I saw

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the smooth spot, because it was
below it and it was just weird,

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Mike, how high up on the
tree it was a smooth spot. It

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was about about seven seven feet It's
still out there and let's see June nothing.

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It's funny because it's not an everyday
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So I had to keep chronological records
on all this June of twenty twenty three,

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I decided to search the backyard and
I found a tree down in the

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hollow that was ripped out of the
ground. The roots snapped off, the

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bark, stripped off the top branches, and then it was thrown up into

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the fork of a bigger tree that
was about twelve foot high. I've kept

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pictures of the tree with the smooth
spot, and a picture of that one

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as well. And then later in
June twenty twenty three, my wife heard

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multiple loud alhoots while I was out
of town. It's funny, there's a

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pattern that when I'm out of town
that's when she would start getting harassed.

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On my return, we both heard
multiple hoots, and I don't I think

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it thought she was the only one
home. I park out front and the

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house backs up to the forest on
the other side, so it wouldn't have

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seen my vehicle. But we've come
to the conclusion that it looks in one

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of our windows. And we've got
some more stuff I shouldn't add to this

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that I'll get to eventually. But
she heard these loud alhoots, and she's

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not really a country person. I'm
not either. We're city transplants. But

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I've been out in the country more
than her enough to know and recognize ol

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hoots. And you know, if
it sounds like an eight hundred pound owl,

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it's probably not an owl, folks. So I was just going to

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ask, because I was going to
ask, why was she so concerned about

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owl hoots? But so, what
you're saying is that this owl was a

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loud, loud sounding owl. Yes, it was very loud. A lot

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of people will mistake doves for owls, they're more along that that decibel level,

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like a kidgeon or a dove.
And this thing was loud, it

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had resonance to it, and I
was hearing it too. We were watching

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TV with the volume probably about half
to three quarters up, and we're hearing

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it through the wall outside and it
was too loud, too deep, and

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it was too close. And we
just sat there listening to that, and

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something told me that's not an owl. And I wasn't going to try to

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go out there and look because it
was dark. I wasn't going to see

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what this was. I didn't want
to put myself in that situation. So

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after that, let's see here,
I was out in the backyard again,

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probably checking on my dear fear,
that's the thing. I'm checking on that,

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or on my trail camp and I
found what I thought was a footprint.

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I got a picture of that one. It's in red clay that was

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dried hard, but it wasn't very
distinct. It didn't have any distinction marks,

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but I could tell it was something
heavy and it was when it stepped

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in. It was going uphill and
the heel is much deeper than the rest

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of the foot, so that's weird, but you still you brush these things

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off. It takes a whole lot
of them to add up into something that

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you just can't really explain. While
I'm out there looking around and looking back

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at that tree with the rub spot
on it, I found a weird looking

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large sandstone. It's a type of
rock with odd grooves and holes in it,

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and it looks like something from a
cave or from far away from here.

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I've never seen rocks like this out
in this area before, and it's

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probably the only rock we if you
want to count little pebbles but pieces of

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gravel, but it's like a fist
size rock, and it's just really weird.

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And it was lying near the pine
tree where the limb was broken,

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and the one with a smooth spot
on it that was towards our house,

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So I'm of the theory that's what
it was hitting the tree with doing the

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knock with you'd probably make more noise
with a rock hit a tree than you

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could with a limb or a branch, especially, I think the bark with

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its pay some of the sound and
absorb it. I left it where it

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was, though we still have it
there. By this time, i'd already

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started listening to Bigfoot and beyond other
shows and learning a little bit to know.

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I didn't want this thing to perceive
any type of gifting situation or what

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have you. And July, my
wife heard three hoops in succession coming from

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our next door neighbors stop and this
was just a few weeks before that last

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tree near the other one was found
the next morning, broken and pointing towards

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the house, which I have another
picture of tree limb that wash. It

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must have been nine foot high and
just snapped off and again pointed towards the

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house, and it was pretty good
size. I've got trees out there that

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are like six to eight inches in
diameter twelve feet high that are broken over.

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And yeah, we when we have
a storm or a tornado or something,

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we know which ones get broken because
we've got to go out there and

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pick them all up and clean it
all up. This was several weeks after

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that that has happened. Occasionally you'll
hear something snap out there when you're watching

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TV relaxing at night. But we've
never seen a bigfoot and we do not

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want to. We just have a
very creepy feeling. We just thought it

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was silly, but now it seems
like a very likely possibility. We've also

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experienced a strong skunk like smell that
lingers for hours, but we weren't sure

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if it was bigfoot or just a
skunk. And now my life was a

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pretty good sized garden. And the
most recent things that we've experienced have been

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in the past two months, and
I didn't document them. I should have.

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I probably will and update this information
there. But when I target practice

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in the backyard by forty five,
we'll be back with more bigfoot society.

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After these words from our sponsors,
there was a late afternoon when I just

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finished target shooting and I heard a
yell, a guttural atypical bigfoot sound and

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yell, and it was about who
knows a quarter or eighth a mile away

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from the forest, coming from the
forest, and it was like replying to

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my gunshots, like saying, put
that crap out? Can you when you

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say guttural yell? And I don't
want to put words into your mouth,

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but can it an invitation of it? Or is it like when you hear

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like the long drawn out one that
kind of stuff like ohio, yeah,

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I guess, but not sound like
a claxon alarm horn like that one does

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so much, just more almost like
a almost like an elephant kind of thing.

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And I thought, what the hell
could be turned to that? We

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don't have anything out here in East
Texas that make sounds like that. We

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don't, Yeah, we just don't. She's got a pretty good sized garden,

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and she's got some hog panels that
are formed up in a tunnel,

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which are about the top of it
on the inside is about seven feet tall

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from the ground. It's like a
tube and you can walk inside it.

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She was growing green beans in that, and she noticed one day when she

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went in there, all the green
beans were gone. Everyone on there is

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picked off. And the way that
this structure is made, the other foliage

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from rose bushes and other trees and
things would conceal someone in there. If

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someone or something went up in there
and could chip and plucked those green beans

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and just eat them because none were
on the ground, then it would be

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hidden. Especially at night cars going
by, I wouldn't see it. No

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one would see it. It'd be
inside there, just happily eating away.

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And we had an okra plant which
had four okra pods on it. They

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were gone and the plant, the
stalk itself was ripped out of the bed.

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And that's no small feet because I
was thinking about three quarter of an

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inch. It takes a pretty strong
man just to rip a full grown opra

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plant out of the ground with both
hands. And it was just laid over

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after it was ripped out. It
was laid over. And we have a

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little fence we put up to keep
rabbits out of the garden, a little

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metal plastic coated like a hog fence, decorative more or less. And there

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was a bend in the top of
it, like a V shaped bend or

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something had stepped into it and crimped
it down. And then the icing on

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the cake. And I got a
picture of this I can send you later.

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My footprint in the middle of one
of the raised beds. And I

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didn't have a take measure with me
or a dollar bill or anything to photograph

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it for scale. I just took
a picture with my phone and then I

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was able to put my boot up
against it without leaving an impression, but

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just over an inch or so,
but next to it, and it's about

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a size ten in length, but
extremely wide. I don't even know what

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with that would be. It was
like a normal foot and a half would

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be super wide, and then the
big toe was really big and round,

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and the other toes were long.
But I'll send you that picture. And

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when I saw that freaked me out. That was what sealed the deal.

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That was That was it that told
me there's not going to be some guy

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walking around with big, weird,
wide feet stepping in people's raised beds and

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eat in their green beans and making
these noises. And it's just not going

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to happen. Even teenage kids are
not going to be doing that, especially

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at her in the country where they
know they'll get shot. That's the thing.

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It's because down in Texas is you
don't just go messing around with someone's

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land because you know that everyone in
Texas is ready to do what needs to

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be done. That's oh yeah,
yeah, there's places I go in my

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job where I'm strapping out in public. No, it's just typical people strapping

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everywhere down here. Yeah, I
think. Yeah, kids know that at

407
00:34:38.639 --> 00:34:43.159
an early age. Yeah, definitely. Yeah. I want to go back

408
00:34:43.199 --> 00:34:49.440
to a part that you mentioned where
your wife had heard something from the neighbor's

409
00:34:49.519 --> 00:34:54.400
property. Yeah, so did she
heard yells or whoops or I didn't quite

410
00:34:54.480 --> 00:34:59.800
hear what she is. Yeah,
she heard three. She heard three whoops

411
00:35:00.519 --> 00:35:06.960
the atypic groups, and the nearest
as she said she could figure is that

412
00:35:07.039 --> 00:35:12.320
it came from the neighbor's property.
When things make a noise in the forest,

413
00:35:12.679 --> 00:35:15.480
they can echo any number of ways, and if it's got some pretty

414
00:35:15.480 --> 00:35:22.159
strong lungs and pushing out some force, it could echo off of who knows,

415
00:35:22.360 --> 00:35:25.920
especially on land that's not flat,
that we have a hollow back there,

416
00:35:27.079 --> 00:35:32.480
and we think from where we're positioned
and where this park is, and

417
00:35:32.519 --> 00:35:40.199
she's looked at Google Earth aerial shots
that these things mainly reside in that park

418
00:35:40.360 --> 00:35:45.880
or that park because there's no hunting
all out there is. That's their refrigerator,

419
00:35:46.280 --> 00:35:51.480
that's their fully stocked freezer of meat, right, that's where all the

420
00:35:51.480 --> 00:35:57.400
beer are, and they don't have
anybody competing and at night it's closed unless

421
00:35:57.400 --> 00:36:00.639
you're a camper in the camping areas. Then there's not that many people camping

422
00:36:00.679 --> 00:36:06.480
there. So it's a great resource
for them. But when the resources get

423
00:36:06.519 --> 00:36:10.519
depleted, or when they want to
go get fresh stream water from a natural

424
00:36:12.280 --> 00:36:15.320
spring, which we have a lot
of springs out here where we are,

425
00:36:15.840 --> 00:36:22.000
or when they want to explore when
they want to have new ground. I

426
00:36:22.000 --> 00:36:25.320
don't know what it is, a
territorial exploratory thing or what they do,

427
00:36:25.400 --> 00:36:30.159
but when they come out to other
areas, I believe they deplete those areas

428
00:36:31.159 --> 00:36:36.639
and they exhaust the resources, because
like I said, all the wildlife where

429
00:36:37.280 --> 00:36:43.320
on our property is gone nothing.
And I believe once they exhaust those food

430
00:36:43.400 --> 00:36:49.360
resources, then they go somewhere else
and they may just circle around in a

431
00:36:49.400 --> 00:36:52.280
big circle, or they may go
to different areas, or they may do

432
00:36:52.360 --> 00:36:55.800
a migratory pattern based on the weather. When it gets really cold, they

433
00:36:55.840 --> 00:37:00.960
may go further south. But I
really think it's we haven't heard anything in

434
00:37:01.039 --> 00:37:07.480
quite a while. We haven't had
any weird feelings going out in the backyard

435
00:37:07.559 --> 00:37:10.360
or anything. The activity has gone
down to nothing, and I believe it's

436
00:37:10.400 --> 00:37:19.239
directly related to the if they died
resources. And yeah, it's made me

437
00:37:19.280 --> 00:37:22.280
a believer. And I haven't seen
one. Like I said, I don't

438
00:37:22.280 --> 00:37:27.039
want to see one. I've talked
to people that have had violent, aggressive

439
00:37:27.119 --> 00:37:30.639
encounters with them, that have been
on other shows, and it's nice to

440
00:37:30.679 --> 00:37:34.880
have someone you can talk to that
you don't feel like they're going to think

441
00:37:35.440 --> 00:37:39.719
you're nuts, and they'll feel in
a lot of blanks or they'll have the

442
00:37:39.800 --> 00:37:45.960
same exact experience in some ways,
and it's refreshing. I think that just

443
00:37:46.000 --> 00:37:50.639
like we were doing, I think
most people do that. They brush these

444
00:37:50.639 --> 00:37:55.320
things off their mind wants to make
sense of it and wants to put it

445
00:37:55.559 --> 00:38:02.079
in a box as something rational and
normal and indigenous and natural, and so

446
00:38:02.920 --> 00:38:09.119
then they can let it go and
move on to with their lives. But

447
00:38:09.280 --> 00:38:15.440
once you encounter these things and you
start becoming aware, it changes your life.

448
00:38:16.079 --> 00:38:21.960
I won't go hunt by myself anymore. If I do go hunt,

449
00:38:22.000 --> 00:38:24.440
I'm going to hunt with a buddy. And I sure ain't going to be

450
00:38:24.480 --> 00:38:29.119
out at night in the woods.
Once it's like six six thirty seven,

451
00:38:29.840 --> 00:38:34.039
I'm not outside. I come in
the house. Because it makes you realize

452
00:38:34.039 --> 00:38:37.440
that there's something out there. And
I believe the increased frequency and the coverage

453
00:38:37.440 --> 00:38:44.880
of this with these podcasts and TV
shows and videos on YouTube and everything,

454
00:38:44.920 --> 00:38:53.440
are the direct result of habitation dwindling
down as we encroach on their areas with

455
00:38:53.639 --> 00:39:01.880
more development, business, industrial subdivisions, schools, whatever, and they're running

456
00:39:01.880 --> 00:39:09.599
out of habitat. And as we
are in now an era of instant video

457
00:39:09.679 --> 00:39:19.719
footage with phones, trail cams,
drones, bodycms, dash cams, security

458
00:39:19.760 --> 00:39:24.480
cameras. All that, we're going
to get more and more footage. But

459
00:39:25.519 --> 00:39:30.480
the conundrum is, regardless of how
much footage we get, no one's going

460
00:39:30.519 --> 00:39:37.320
to believe these things exist until somebody
hits one with a semi or takes one

461
00:39:37.360 --> 00:39:42.280
out with a big bore, high
caliber rifle and manages to hang on to

462
00:39:42.440 --> 00:39:47.800
the body before whoever the forces that
be decided to come and take it.

463
00:39:49.559 --> 00:39:54.000
Your neighbors, have you ever asked
your neighbors or talked to them about the

464
00:39:54.079 --> 00:39:59.280
subject, or said, hey,
you guys, ever are Yeah? Recently,

465
00:40:00.079 --> 00:40:04.719
recently I talked to the old lady
who has a stock pond next to

466
00:40:04.800 --> 00:40:08.840
us, and I'll describe this situation, and you tell me what you think.

467
00:40:09.320 --> 00:40:13.719
Her husband passed away. Okay,
we's go back when he was still

468
00:40:13.760 --> 00:40:22.400
alive. They moved out here in
her early sixties, nineteen sixties, and

469
00:40:22.480 --> 00:40:28.480
they heard weird noises coming from the
woods behind them, and they just never

470
00:40:28.519 --> 00:40:31.280
thought much of it. He said, that's your son, damned animal.

471
00:40:31.840 --> 00:40:37.880
After he passed away, she was
out here by herself, and she heard

472
00:40:37.760 --> 00:40:44.119
noises and screams and other weird sounds
and things. But I noticed when we

473
00:40:44.159 --> 00:40:51.280
moved out here about six years ago, that she was not at her house

474
00:40:51.440 --> 00:40:57.119
very often. That she's usually with
her kids in another city and leaves her

475
00:40:57.199 --> 00:41:00.199
house and has people come in and
check on her house in the daytime.

476
00:41:00.840 --> 00:41:07.679
And as a dog, it's in
a cage outside, but it's a fully

477
00:41:07.719 --> 00:41:12.960
boxed in cage, roofsides, everything. It's like a kettel cage and they

478
00:41:13.000 --> 00:41:15.480
feed it and I guess they let
it out sometimes. I don't know.

479
00:41:15.519 --> 00:41:20.719
I I've never seen it outside.
That cage was that she was telling me.

480
00:41:21.480 --> 00:41:24.880
She said, yeah, be sure, she said, I totally believe

481
00:41:24.920 --> 00:41:29.000
you. When I told her about
what I've been here, and I asked

482
00:41:29.039 --> 00:41:30.320
her, I said, have you
ever heard anything weird? And she said,

483
00:41:30.679 --> 00:41:36.280
yeah, we've heard lots of weird
noises coming out there, yells and

484
00:41:36.320 --> 00:41:40.159
screams and sound like a woman screaming
and all kinds of stuff. And I

485
00:41:40.199 --> 00:41:45.199
told her pretty much everything I've told
you, and she said, I believe

486
00:41:45.960 --> 00:41:50.400
that there's something out there, said
but don't tell anybody if you ever want

487
00:41:50.440 --> 00:41:52.039
to sell your house, or you
won't be able to sell it. And

488
00:41:52.079 --> 00:41:55.960
it makes me wonder if that was
what she had happened to her when her

489
00:41:57.000 --> 00:42:01.000
husband asked, I don't know.
It's just very strange. You won't see

490
00:42:01.039 --> 00:42:07.960
her out there when the sun starts
going down. You only see her in

491
00:42:07.000 --> 00:42:13.199
the mornings and in the afternoons,
if at all, and not very often.

492
00:42:14.079 --> 00:42:19.199
And we've occasionally we have a window
on the end of our house and

493
00:42:19.599 --> 00:42:24.800
you can watch TV and see the
light reflecting from inside onto the glass for

494
00:42:24.880 --> 00:42:28.920
the most part until you turn the
light off, and then when you turn

495
00:42:28.960 --> 00:42:35.239
the light off you can or see
out through that window. And occasionally myself

496
00:42:35.280 --> 00:42:39.400
and my wife have seen something like
a black shadow just move real quickly across

497
00:42:39.440 --> 00:42:45.079
the bottom corner of that window,
like something was peeking in and jumped back

498
00:42:45.360 --> 00:42:49.559
as soon as we looked over at
it. And it makes me think,

499
00:42:49.880 --> 00:42:52.320
yeah, before it went over to
the garden, that's where it was looking,

500
00:42:52.360 --> 00:42:57.400
and it got curious and watches us, and it makes noise and tries

501
00:42:57.440 --> 00:43:01.199
to get people to come outside,
And yeah, I think they're I think

502
00:43:01.199 --> 00:43:06.480
they're curious. I think they're older
than humans. I think they're curious,

503
00:43:06.840 --> 00:43:15.079
they're territorial. I think that they're
omnivorous. I think there's different variations of

504
00:43:15.119 --> 00:43:22.119
them depending where you are geographically climate
wise. I think that they when people

505
00:43:22.159 --> 00:43:24.440
see a footprint on the ground and
there's no others around it, I think

506
00:43:24.480 --> 00:43:30.079
that they're using trees. I also
think that they step back into their footprints,

507
00:43:30.760 --> 00:43:36.079
an old trick Native Americans had been
doing for thousands of years when hunting,

508
00:43:36.760 --> 00:43:40.320
so they can conceal where they're going. I think they're not as smart

509
00:43:40.320 --> 00:43:47.760
as humans, but they're smarter than
chimpanzees or great apes. I don't know

510
00:43:47.840 --> 00:43:52.840
that they have a language. I
don't believe in any of the the wu

511
00:43:52.159 --> 00:43:57.719
where they have portals and minds speak
and all that kind of stuff. I

512
00:43:57.719 --> 00:44:02.760
think they're primates, but I think
there are very smart, and I think

513
00:44:04.599 --> 00:44:10.239
that gives them the ability to hide
and stay hidden very well. I think

514
00:44:10.280 --> 00:44:15.679
that they are responsible for the thousands
of people that are missing about a trace

515
00:44:15.960 --> 00:44:21.800
throughout our parks. I think that
if you panic and run when people have

516
00:44:21.880 --> 00:44:25.880
seen them, it triggers a predator
response in them to pursue. I think

517
00:44:25.960 --> 00:44:31.679
if people have a certain sense on
them, it could attract them. I

518
00:44:31.679 --> 00:44:39.280
think they may have individualized behaviors and
attitudes. Like people. You have some

519
00:44:39.440 --> 00:44:44.559
that are jerks, some that are
psychopaths, some that are nice, and

520
00:44:44.599 --> 00:44:47.599
I think when they run across a
bad one, and I think they're very

521
00:44:47.639 --> 00:44:52.480
short tempered. Chimpanzees are also very
short tempered. I think there's a lot

522
00:44:53.199 --> 00:45:00.800
in common with chimpanzees, and the
ones in Texas that people see are described

523
00:45:00.840 --> 00:45:07.320
as being like big chimpanzees with small
ears. We'll be back with more bigfoot

524
00:45:07.400 --> 00:45:17.199
society after these words from our sponsors. Over developed lats, broad shoulders,

525
00:45:17.960 --> 00:45:25.480
and instead of hands for feet like
chimps, after just feet. I think

526
00:45:25.679 --> 00:45:30.920
it's another undiscovered species and people are
like, oh, there's no such thing.

527
00:45:30.599 --> 00:45:35.840
Yeah, you never know, folks. It's wild stuff. And we're

528
00:45:35.920 --> 00:45:42.960
keeping your area very vague. So
I know a little bit more right because

529
00:45:43.000 --> 00:45:46.679
we were talking before. And have
you done a Google search on your town

530
00:45:47.719 --> 00:45:53.440
yet? No? Not really you
need to because there are multiple reports of

531
00:45:54.239 --> 00:46:02.079
sightings in your area from different not
just BFRO but other resources from over the

532
00:46:02.159 --> 00:46:09.119
years where there have been individuals that
have actually seen bigfoots foot back in.

533
00:46:10.079 --> 00:46:15.239
And I want to say very carefully, I will say a decade of the

534
00:46:15.320 --> 00:46:22.000
seventies. I think that's I can
that's pretty that could cover anywhere. But

535
00:46:22.519 --> 00:46:28.119
yeah, there are multiple side,
yep, and yeah, so I would.

536
00:46:28.599 --> 00:46:34.599
I can give you more info after
we're done recording. It's coupling that

537
00:46:35.159 --> 00:46:38.840
with what you've told me. It's
you got something going on. Man.

538
00:46:39.400 --> 00:46:45.280
You have trail cams up around your
property. I think you mentioned yeah,

539
00:46:45.519 --> 00:46:49.719
yeah, and I've never gotten anything
on the trail cam. I've gotten weird

540
00:46:50.599 --> 00:46:55.320
light phenomenon, but that could be
a bird going by. I don't factor

541
00:46:55.360 --> 00:46:59.400
and say, oh, it was
a portal opening. Yeah, it was

542
00:46:59.400 --> 00:47:02.599
a UF taking the Bigfoot back to
Mars. You know, I sound like

543
00:47:02.760 --> 00:47:07.320
orbs or anything like that around your
property. Yeah, okay, no,

544
00:47:07.440 --> 00:47:15.920
no, but yeah, it's I'm
just I'm just glad, extremely grateful that

545
00:47:15.039 --> 00:47:21.639
all of that has died down and
stopped and gone. And I hope if

546
00:47:21.679 --> 00:47:24.760
it's gone, I hope it doesn't
come back. I really do, because

547
00:47:25.360 --> 00:47:30.440
it's an unsettling feeling to be scared
to go out into your yard night,

548
00:47:30.360 --> 00:47:36.400
or when you're coming from the store
and you're unloading the car of groceries and

549
00:47:36.440 --> 00:47:40.320
you feel like you've got to race
in every load and you just have a

550
00:47:40.360 --> 00:47:47.079
creepy, ominous feeling that you're going
to be attacked by something. It's yeah,

551
00:47:47.159 --> 00:47:52.159
that's not good. So I got
a fifty caliber. I got a

552
00:47:52.199 --> 00:48:00.840
couple of fifty caliber rifles and some
forty fives. And you'd think target practice

553
00:48:00.880 --> 00:48:04.199
and shooting out the backyard will be
enough to keep the damn things out to

554
00:48:04.360 --> 00:48:07.960
term them, but apparently it didn't. It just makes them mad. But

555
00:48:08.480 --> 00:48:13.559
I think when they deplete their resources
they move along. Yeah, hopefully.

556
00:48:14.000 --> 00:48:17.159
And it sounds like it might be
getting to that point on your property if

557
00:48:17.199 --> 00:48:22.599
you haven't seen any animals recently,
but have you considered, do you have

558
00:48:22.639 --> 00:48:30.760
any audio recorders or you probably trying
to evidence you just And I incourage,

559
00:48:30.960 --> 00:48:34.480
well, I discourage anyone rather that
wants to go out that lives out in

560
00:48:34.480 --> 00:48:37.239
East Texas. Don't go out and
make calls on your own property. If

561
00:48:37.280 --> 00:48:42.519
you're going to do bigfoot calls and
hoops and howls, go do it out

562
00:48:42.639 --> 00:48:46.440
somewhere way out in an area that's
not in habited. If you want to

563
00:48:46.440 --> 00:48:53.239
hear them respond back, which I
don't recommend because I think what it does

564
00:48:53.239 --> 00:48:57.239
it makes them curious. If they
hear that makes them curious, then they

565
00:48:57.280 --> 00:49:02.000
come in to see what made that
sound. And if they find resources that

566
00:49:02.679 --> 00:49:07.519
are good for them, they're liable
to stick around, and yeah, it

567
00:49:07.639 --> 00:49:12.320
was just a bad move on my
part to do that. I'm not doing

568
00:49:12.360 --> 00:49:17.000
that again. Yeah, it's tricky
because we just don't know what that means.

569
00:49:17.559 --> 00:49:22.079
Yeah, it's a good point you
bring up. Don't do it on

570
00:49:22.119 --> 00:49:27.440
your own property if you don't mind
have hanging around. Yeah, don't let

571
00:49:27.519 --> 00:49:31.400
investigators do it if they want to
come investigate on your properties. They don't

572
00:49:31.440 --> 00:49:37.440
live there, they don't care what
happens after that. But yeah, I've

573
00:49:37.519 --> 00:49:45.280
met people through other podcasts that I
plan to go to Oklahoma to some casino

574
00:49:45.440 --> 00:49:52.960
dumpsters at night with a certain group
of individuals inside a safe, a big

575
00:49:53.039 --> 00:49:59.320
vehicle and observe what they have observed, which are these things pushing through the

576
00:49:59.400 --> 00:50:04.760
dumpster and eating out of the grease
traps, and their supposed video footage of

577
00:50:04.840 --> 00:50:08.199
it's the really good stuff. That's
a fascinating thing is the really good video

578
00:50:08.480 --> 00:50:15.599
is not featured on social media.
It's like someone deletes it or won't allow

579
00:50:15.639 --> 00:50:16.639
it to be a poster or what
have you. And so you get a

580
00:50:16.639 --> 00:50:22.239
lot of these disinformation videos, as
I call them, where it's questionable at

581
00:50:22.280 --> 00:50:27.519
best, or like that actual video
has disappeared. Yeah, I know exactly

582
00:50:27.519 --> 00:50:30.840
what you're talking about, yep,
And I want to. I want to

583
00:50:30.920 --> 00:50:37.199
see one just so I can allay
that curiosity. But at the same time,

584
00:50:38.039 --> 00:50:42.480
I'm afraid to see it because then
I'm afraid I won't be able to

585
00:50:42.559 --> 00:50:44.400
at it. Unsee it, I
won't be ablek at it out of my

586
00:50:44.480 --> 00:50:49.440
head. And it's such a shock
to people who have seen them and have

587
00:50:49.480 --> 00:50:54.119
had encounters with them, especially up
close and aggressive, that it traumatizes them.

588
00:50:54.360 --> 00:51:02.639
It leaves them with PTSD and some
have severe alcohol and drug abuse issues

589
00:51:02.719 --> 00:51:07.360
that arise afterwards just from trying to
self medicate and deal with them. So

590
00:51:07.679 --> 00:51:10.480
on one hand, I don't want
to see one, but on the other

591
00:51:10.519 --> 00:51:15.039
hand, I'm torn, but I'm
sure not going to do anything that will

592
00:51:15.079 --> 00:51:19.920
attract them. People got to watch
that too. If you have leftover food,

593
00:51:20.400 --> 00:51:23.880
don't throw it out there in your
backyard. He's thinking that the raccoons

594
00:51:23.880 --> 00:51:28.559
and hogs or whatever are going to
come clean it up. Don't do that.

595
00:51:28.639 --> 00:51:36.159
These are opportunistic animals. They will
find food resources available and take advantage

596
00:51:36.199 --> 00:51:39.559
of it, and to my understanding, it becomes a regular, expected thing,

597
00:51:39.719 --> 00:51:44.239
and then you're going to have problems
when you stop doing it. I

598
00:51:44.360 --> 00:51:49.239
also think if they were recognized and
acknowledged, which they haven't been yet,

599
00:51:49.760 --> 00:51:52.960
it would create way too much trouble, way too much problems. I think

600
00:51:53.000 --> 00:52:00.800
the Department of the Interior and the
US Parks and Wildlife Service have a strong,

601
00:52:01.079 --> 00:52:07.400
ongoing clandestine campaign to assure that doesn't
happen. Also, there would be

602
00:52:07.719 --> 00:52:14.039
tons of lawsuits for all those people
that vanished mysteriously without a trace. Could

603
00:52:15.559 --> 00:52:20.519
Yeah, it could get very,
very bad. They're like, well,

604
00:52:20.679 --> 00:52:23.519
yeah, nothing to see here,
folks don't talk about it. I'll see.

605
00:52:23.599 --> 00:52:28.519
Yeah, but I agree with you. I think the government knows a

606
00:52:28.559 --> 00:52:32.280
little bit more than they're letting on
for sure. So yeah, yeah,

607
00:52:32.320 --> 00:52:38.599
anything that's weird unusual. The military
industrial complex wants to adopt it and use

608
00:52:38.639 --> 00:52:44.000
it for some military application. I
think that's been the same situation with the

609
00:52:44.159 --> 00:52:49.039
uap S or UFOs. They don't
want if it's some technology that they can

610
00:52:49.079 --> 00:52:52.880
adopt a military use for superior ority. Yeah, and I've heard that as

611
00:52:52.920 --> 00:53:00.599
well with the sasquats, that they'd
look into the possibility of use using it

612
00:53:00.679 --> 00:53:05.920
to make some super soldiers. I
don't know how much truth there is to

613
00:53:06.000 --> 00:53:12.159
that. I could see exploring its
genetics, maybe to do some genetic modifications

614
00:53:12.199 --> 00:53:17.360
to humans with their genetics, or
to see what comprises it, what makes

615
00:53:17.400 --> 00:53:23.440
it what it is. It's strength, because apparently these things have unbelievable strength.

616
00:53:23.920 --> 00:53:28.960
Like I said, the trees that
I've got there broken, it would

617
00:53:28.960 --> 00:53:36.039
take machinery to do that, or
several people using machinery to do that,

618
00:53:36.320 --> 00:53:40.440
hand hand leverage and things like that
to do it. And I ain't seen

619
00:53:40.440 --> 00:53:45.800
anybody back out in my property.
It is doing it overtly and quickly.

620
00:53:46.320 --> 00:53:52.280
It'll make you not want to go
in the wood. Absolutely, Mike,

621
00:53:52.360 --> 00:53:57.639
you definitely you got some weird stuff
going on. Please keep me in the

622
00:53:57.719 --> 00:54:01.400
loop with what you got going on
there. You probably haven't heard the last

623
00:54:01.440 --> 00:54:07.440
weird thing, but I hope I
well, yeah that's true. But if

624
00:54:07.440 --> 00:54:10.880
you happen to hear something else,
let me know. But I appreciate you

625
00:54:10.960 --> 00:54:17.320
reaching out to me. And yeah, hopefully this is it. And sometimes

626
00:54:17.320 --> 00:54:22.039
it happens, they just go away
and you can maybe put up a few

627
00:54:22.079 --> 00:54:25.320
more trail cams and you won't have
to worry about it. But that seems

628
00:54:25.559 --> 00:54:30.280
yeah, and I recommend it.
Yeah, I recommend anybody having any of

629
00:54:30.320 --> 00:54:36.280
these situations that doesn't want this to
happen. Go get some motion activated solar

630
00:54:36.320 --> 00:54:38.840
powered lights. Oh yeah, you
can get them at Walmart. Stick those

631
00:54:38.880 --> 00:54:45.639
along your property where just at the
edge of where you're having them come in

632
00:54:45.960 --> 00:54:50.840
where you're having activity. And that's
helped that, I guess it's helped that.

633
00:54:50.920 --> 00:54:57.519
Sure hadn't increased it. Sure have
lights, And don't throw any food

634
00:54:57.519 --> 00:55:00.559
out. Don't put any apples out. If you do have gosh, just

635
00:55:00.679 --> 00:55:06.079
keep it to deercorn. I've heard
that they eat that too, but they're

636
00:55:06.159 --> 00:55:09.400
less attractive to that than they are
to other things that people put out sometimes

637
00:55:09.440 --> 00:55:15.920
in dear feeders, anything that's like
to lure hogs or whatever that can be

638
00:55:15.960 --> 00:55:20.039
more attractive to them. Yeah,
And just there's a part of me too

639
00:55:20.079 --> 00:55:22.840
that believes in what the Native Americans
say and that leave them alone, they'll

640
00:55:22.920 --> 00:55:28.559
leave you alone. You don't call
them, you don't make noises, you

641
00:55:28.599 --> 00:55:31.559
don't put things out there, you
don't give you don't put food out there.

642
00:55:32.480 --> 00:55:37.719
And if you do see one,
don't freak out panic and run.

643
00:55:37.400 --> 00:55:43.239
Just keep your eye on it and
walk away and get to a safe place.

644
00:55:43.280 --> 00:55:45.679
Because yeah, I don't think there's
any magic. I think they're just

645
00:55:46.760 --> 00:55:53.280
big, dangerous, scary, unclassified, undiscovered primates that we have here in

646
00:55:53.280 --> 00:56:00.960
North America that eventually will be revealed
in class, and it's going to be

647
00:56:01.000 --> 00:56:08.039
interesting when that comes. Absolutely,
Mike. I appreciate you chatting tonight.

648
00:56:08.320 --> 00:56:13.519
It has been a fun discussion.
I do want to talk to you a

649
00:56:13.599 --> 00:56:19.000
little bit more, but I do
want to have that off the recorded portion,

650
00:56:19.360 --> 00:56:22.239
just to keep privacy about your location. But thank you so much for

651
00:56:22.360 --> 00:56:25.719
chatting tonight. Mike. Oh,
thank you very much for having me.

652
00:56:25.800 --> 00:56:31.119
I appreciate it. It always makes
you feel a little better to express yet

653
00:56:31.159 --> 00:56:37.519
that out without fear of someone saying
you're nuts. Yeah, not here,

654
00:56:37.000 --> 00:56:40.239
don't worry about that, all right. Thank you, Mike. You're a

655
00:56:40.280 --> 00:56:45.559
big for Society. Art goal is
to provide a platform for those that have

656
00:56:45.760 --> 00:56:51.639
encountered Bigfoot to share their encounter in
a safe and respected environment. But we

657
00:56:51.719 --> 00:56:55.519
need to hear your story. If
you've experienced something that you just can't explain,

658
00:56:55.840 --> 00:57:02.599
please send me an email Bigfoot Society
at gmail dot com then we can

659
00:57:02.639 --> 00:57:07.519
start the conversation. And I know
a lot of you have not shared your

660
00:57:07.639 --> 00:57:13.719
encounter at all. It's been twenty
years and it's time that you get this

661
00:57:13.840 --> 00:57:16.400
off your chest, and then you
can get some well deserved for rest,

662
00:57:16.519 --> 00:57:21.920
because I know you haven't been sleeping. I understand what you're going through,

663
00:57:22.119 --> 00:57:23.239
and I appreciate every one of you
listening