March 17, 2025

I Moved to a Pennsylvania Hot Spot!

In this episode of Bigfoot Society, we have the privilege of talking with Dusty, who recounts his unsettling encounters with Bigfoot in Pennsylvania's Michaux State Forest. Dusty's stories range from mysterious interactions during childhood camping...

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Season 1

In this episode of Bigfoot Society, we have the privilege of talking with Dusty, who recounts his unsettling encounters with Bigfoot in Pennsylvania's Michaux State Forest. Dusty's stories range from mysterious interactions during childhood camping trips to a direct sighting of a juvenile Sasquatch while scouting his property. He also shares eerie experiences while hunting, including mind-speak communication, strange noises, and inexplicable events involving his chickens. Dusty's encounters extend to peculiar behaviors such as objects being moved and unexplained noises mimicking animals. Join us as Dusty provides a detailed and chilling account of his experiences in the backwoods of Pennsylvania, offering insights that are sure to captivate Bigfoot enthusiasts and skeptics alike.

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slash the Big for Society and now let's get on

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with the show. All right, Bigfoot Society. But the privilege

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of talking to Dusty today. Dusty's an individual that reached

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out to me about some incidents that he's had in

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Pennsylvania and we're able to set him up to come

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on the show and to share those But Dusty, thank

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you for reaching out. And how's it going today?

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Pretty good? Pretty good? Thanks for having me.

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Absolutely, you know, if I think we have quite the

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road to to cover, and this is going to be

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a conversation that I'll be uh, I'll be talking through

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as well. Sometimes we have episodes like that, which is awesome.

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I enjoy when we have a conversation back and forth.

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But Dusty, I'm gonna let you go ahead and definitely

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take the reins for the beginning and take us back

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to when you first started some having some interactions with Bigfoot.

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All right, Well, I have always had some weird happenings.

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We had camped around the Michelle State Forest area when

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I was younger. We used to do a lot of

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camping trips and stuff, and one of the places we

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would camp at was Hosac Run, which is actually Caledonia

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part of the State forest right off the Appalachian Trail,

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and our family would always get like the secluded area,

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like way back in the edge of the campground part

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of the forest area. Like more we would always have

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I would always find myself having like strange happenings, like

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little weird noises and stuff. At night, while everybody else is,

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you know, tucked away sleeping or what have you. You know,

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I'd just be sitting at the campfire and stuff. And

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sometimes we would have like pebbles thrown like little tiny

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rocks and stuff, and I'd be like, is that my

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cousin's playing tricks on me? And then I'd be like, oh,

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they're sleeping. So it wasn't the It wasn't that at all.

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So I didn't really I have grew up and heard stories,

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and you know, you watch out for the hide behind

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and you know, the creatures in the forest. You know,

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don't go don't go whistling in the forest and stuff

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like that. Don't go by yourself, always know, let people

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know where you're at, stuff like that. And I guess

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a lot of that was for you know, abductions and

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stuff too, not necessarily for Bigfoot, but any kind of abductions.

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There's some weirdos out there. But I always made a

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joke about twenty ten, twenty eleven ish, I had moved

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up to that area and I had like a four

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acre lot that was tucked up against the corner of

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the woods, and all that woods that wasn't mine was

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all state forest. When I had moved up there. The

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very first time I went up into those woods actually

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is when I had a actually had a encounter, like

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an actual sighting. It was very weird. I just went up,

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you know, we just moved in. I was like, I'm

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going to go check the lay of the land. I

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had one son already in my my fiance at the

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time was pregnant with my second son. And I've always

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been into hunting and fishing, always been outdoorsy. I grew

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up on a farm, so I went up and I'm

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looking at trails, looking for signs for deer and whatever

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kind of wildlife may have been up there. And I

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noticed that a little bit after my property line into

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the woods, there's like an old logging road. So I

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was like, oh, check this out, you know. I'm walking

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a little bit and then walking around it found all

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kinds of deer trip deer signs, scat footprints, even some

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buck rubs. I was like, Oh, nice, I moved into

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a nice hotspot. I guess nobody really hunted up here before.

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And as I'm walking around checking stuff, I just happened

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to look up and I saw something. I'm like, what

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the heck is this? This was like forty to fifty

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yards away, straight ahead of me. It was this. I

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feel it was like a juice, like an adolescent sasquatch.

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It felt like it was like a teenager. By its appearance,

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it didn't look like it was old, it looked young.

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It was by itself, and it was doing this weird

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like hide behind, like crouched down behind a fallen tree

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and a tree stump, and was like looking up and around,

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up and over, up and over, like you could see

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from its chest up and it would crouched, like stayed crouching,

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but it would like peer up and look around, and

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I'm like, what the heck. So I guess it was

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like as surprised as me to see somebody up there,

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and I was like, what is that. That's not a bear.

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We don't have bears that color. It was, like I said,

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it was like an auburn, like a reddish brown, and

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I was like, this is weird. So I'm like looking around,

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like scanning the whole area, and I'm like, there's nobody

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out here but me. Uh So, as I'm scanning, I

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look up at in its direction again and it was closer.

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Now this time it was behind a big tree that

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was standing, and it was like thirty feet closer, and

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I'm like, what the heck, Like I didn't even hear

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it move, but it's closer, and I'm like thinking in

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my head, like what the heck is this what is

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going on? Like I'm freaked out. I'm like all senses going,

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adrenaline pumping, and I'm like and here it's like half

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of its bodies like sticking out around the tree and

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kind of like doing this like lean out look, and

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then they would like slowly go back behind the tree

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and lean back out. And the wind was kind of blowing,

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so I noticed it was trying to mimic like how

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the wind like mimic like it was flowing with the wind.

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And I'm like, wow, like completely blown out of my mind,

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but scared at the same time. So I'm like, I

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don't have the gun or anything on me. I didn't.

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I don't even think I had a knife on me

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at the time. So I start looking around me, and

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I didn't want to like take my eyes off of

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it too much because of how much distance it had

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covered in like probably it was probably like forty five

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seconds wor at the time, thirty to forty five seconds

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worth of time. So I'm scanning around me, and I

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see a stick and I look up and here it

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was even closer again. Now this time it's like this

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thing's probably like twenty five yards away now, and I'm

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like I found a big limb that was like a

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stick that was lying and it was like still hard.

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It wasn't rotted or anything. So my instinct was to

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grab this stick with me ben down and grabbed this

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stick while looking at it with my right hand, and

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there was a big tree next to me. So I

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was just went bang whack whack, like three or four

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times and went raised it up over my head and

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went ah and yelled. Well, I looked at the tree

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while I was hitting it, and when I raised up

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my stick and went ah, it was gone. Like all

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I seen was tree branches wiggling, and I'm like, what

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the heck? Like I was like all but frozen with

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fear because I've never encountered anything like I've witnessed black

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bears come through to camp site while we're camping. Never

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got this type of fear, ever, And I'm like, where

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did it go? Like I'm looking, I'm scanning the whole

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area now, mind you, my property is to my back,

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my house, and my at the top of the hill,

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my yard woods like a big hill that went to

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the woodline and then the forest began. So I'm like

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about i'd say, one hundred feet into the woods when

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this had happened.

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And.

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I'm just scanning and looking all over the place and

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there's no sign of anything being there except for those

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tree branches wiggling from where I saw it last. So

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I got down to the yard, I got out of

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the woods. I was like, this is this can't even

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be happening, Like what is going on here? And as

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I'm walking through the yard into the house, I'm like,

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I'm never going in the woods without protection again, Like

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this was scary now it didn't. It seemed like it

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was curious, not aggressive or anything like that. So I

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went in and my fiance saw my face and she's like,

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what's up with you? And I'm like, I don't even know.

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And I went up and grabbed my gun. I had

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a rifle, a high caliber rifle that I had grabbed

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in my pistol, and on my pistol belt had a machete,

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so I grabbed put that on and I went up

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in the woods and I was like, She's like, what

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are you doing. I was like, I'm not going in

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that woods without protection again, and do not let the

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kids play in the woods by themselves, which I only

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had the one son at the time. And he was

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really little. But I was speaking in future reference, expecting

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to live there for longer than I did. I ended

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up just living there for about five years. But I

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went up I didn't see any footprints or anything like that.

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It was kind of like a summer, dry time of

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the year, so the ground was pretty hard, and where

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it wasn't hard, it was pretty spongy. It's kind of

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like a three different types of terrains up there. You

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have like rocky, mountainous dirt, and then you have like

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a rainforest type of area, like climate area, where it's

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the ground's real spongy. It's just a tree debris that

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is rotted into dirt, and to walk on it, it

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sponges and it lifts back up. It's it's like walking

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on a on a sponge really. So I walked over

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looking for any kind of signs or whatever, and I'm like, well,

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I see a trail, like, uh, like where something had

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moved through that, and I'm like looking, I'm walking around,

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Well here, I'll start following this trail just being curious.

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I don't know why I decided to do this after

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this encounter. I guess my mind wouldn't let me let

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it rest until I've figured something out. So I'm walking

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and I started finding these other areas where these trees

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were knocked down and they were like laid on top

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of each other and stuff. And there was one that

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was like it wasn't like they were like all uprooted.

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Some of them were snapped about two feet up from

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the base and they were like like criss crossed and

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laying on top of each other. And I'm like, in

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this one, it was broke about four foot up from

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the ground. And I now this one was probably about

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i'd say the width of a large coffee can. And

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I'm like, this is weird. I don't see any other

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trees in the area except for right in this little

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area where they had fallen down. Like so I'm looking

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around the stuff and maybe I can find some hair

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or something. I didn't end up finding any hair, but

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I did find stuff where like something ran over some

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of these trees and knocked the bark off. It was

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like fresh bark knocked off. And so I'm looking around

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that area and something just this weird noise happened. And

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then I heard another noise that was a little bit

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to the right of me, like I had a diagonal,

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but up higher into the ridges, and I was like,

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this sounds like something's communicating.

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Big for society will be right back after these messages.

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And that's when I was like, maybe that was the

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parents trying to ward me off and scare me off

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from chasing their young one. So I was up there

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for about an hour hour and a half at the most.

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The trail went cold, I felt, and all this stuff happening.

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I was like, all right, I think it's time to

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just head back to the house. But I never went

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in those woods again without at least a slug gun

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or a pistol and a slug gun. Even if I

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was cutting firewood, I wouldn't go up in those woods

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without anything. There was times where I was up cutting

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firewood in the snow, standing dead and stuff cutting to roll.

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I'd cut it in lengths of like eight ten feet

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and throw them up on my shoulder and walk them

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to the edge of the woodline boo, roll them down

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the hill into a pile. And then uh, that was

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that that instance.

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Do you mind if I asked some questions real quick

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about what you just shared?

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Go ahead, cool, go ahead.

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Are you able to explain or you know, you mentioned

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it was a weird some weird noises that you you heard.

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Can you describe, like what kind of noise it? It

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sounded like.

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It sounded like like a weird bird, but it didn't

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sound like a bird. Like it sounded like something trying

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to sound like a bird, but you could tell it

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wasn't a bird, and you could tell a difference in

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between the pitches and the tones of being different ones.

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Like I guess it was like the mother and the father.

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I'm assuming. I'm not one hundred percent sure, but I

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feel like that's what it what it was now, it

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didn't Yeah, it kind of sounded like a weird bird,

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almost like a like some like if some kid was

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trying but an adult like didn't know how to make

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a crow sound, but make trying to make a crow sound.

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Yeah, that that makes sense. Was it similar to any

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birds that you'd have in the area.

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No, I mean, there's plenty of crows around, but it

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wasn't a crow. You know, It's like it's kind of

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hard to explain really. Also, I heard like rust like

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stuff moving way off in the distance, something big like

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it was almost like it was trying to head me off,

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but stay at its own distance at the same time. So yeah,

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and then after I got real silent and it felt

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like the trail went cold. That's when I had it

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back down.

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When you had a view of it as it was

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starting to get, you know, closer to you. Do you

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remember what color hair it had on it.

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Yeah, it was like a like a reddish brown, more

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red than brown. And it was real skinny and slender,

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and it was bigger than a person. Like I'm five

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eleven and this thing it looked like it was like

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seven foot tall or more, judging from the branches, because

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I checked out when I walked up there, I was

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like taking reference of the branches where it was standing here,

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and I'm like, these branches are like seven foot high

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off the ground, like, and they were right in near

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it's like headline, and I'm like, this isn't a person

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in a suit or anything. Nobody playing tricks on the

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a let's mess with the new neighbor or nothing like that.

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But the face it looked young because you could see

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its face even at that distance, you could you could

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see its face like it kind of looked like a man,

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but it didn't. And the height and the color of it,

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I was like when nobody would be using a gilly

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suit like that to even be up in the woods

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because it wouldn't really blend into anything. There's no dead

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pine trees around, you know, like that would be the

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only instance where somebody would try and use that coloration

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in a gilly suit or anything. And it was built

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like muscular build, but slender. Yeah, that's why I think

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it was. It was as curious as I was, but

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maybe a little more curious.

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Absolutely, do you remember any certain details about the face

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that stood out? You had said that there are parts

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of it that that didn't look like a man or

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a human. Do you remember what parts specifically made you

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think they're looking at something else?

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Yeah. It was like a leathered, leathered like texture, but

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like an ash gray like coloration to it. But it

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looked weathered like for reference, if somebody works out in

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the sun a lot, how their face gets leather like

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worn looking to get extra wrinkle and stuff in their

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face like a It looked like that, but it was

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gray like ash gray. And it had a weird nose

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like I call it, like a spaded nose or like

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a shovel shaped nose. It was kind of flatter than

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a normal like a bridge of a nose, like it

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had a bridge, but it was the nostrils were flared

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more like flattering. It was like flared more.

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And that's really interesting. Was their hair on the face

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at all?

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No, not the face was completely bare. The hair was

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around it, all around it, and the fingers, the fingers

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didn't have a lot of hair on them neither. I

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noticed that because while it was like at the tree,

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you could see its hand on the side of the

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tree as it was like swaying in and out from

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behind the tree, trying to mimic the branches swaying in

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the wind and stuff. But then it was doing it

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offbeat from the wind as well, And that's what really

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made me catch on to it the first time, because

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it was like at a stump that was probably about

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waiste height, and then there was like it was all

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roddy and stuff, so it kind of blended in with

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that coloration. But the fact that it was moving is

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what caught my eye as I was out scouting. So

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that's what when I looked up and I saw it

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peak up and around while it was still crouched. It

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was kind of like hunkering down and then peeking up

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and around and hunkering down. And I never saw it

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like stand up, stand up. I just saw it move

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like I saw it at one position, and then I

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scanned around, looked. I looked from around me from left

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to right and back again. And then when I came

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back to pinpoint, back on to it again. That's when

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I noticed it was closer.

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During the time that you were able to get a

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look at it, did you notice it had any emotions

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to its face at all?

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Yeah, it was surprised. And then it got to a

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point where when it was behind the tree standing it

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was you could tell it had like a curious look

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on his face, like what is going? What is what

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is what are they doing? Does he see me? Does

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he he's looking at me? Does he see me? Like

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kind of like a puzzled look, puzzled and curious at

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the same time. And then when I grabbed the stick,

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I kept my eyes on it. When I grabbed the stick,

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I bent down and grabbed it, and it like I

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had like an expression like WHOA, what's he doing now?

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You know, like uh yeah. Those were the only couple

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of expressions that I had noticed.

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Was this the the only interaction that you had with

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with whatever was in the backwoods behind your house.

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No. No, there was times where I was out hunting

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and I did a lot of ground hunting because with

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it being part of the forest and stuff, I didn't

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really know at that time. I was pretty young in

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my early year twenties at that time, and I was

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like I didn't really know what the laws were like

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if I could put a tree stand up or anything

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with it being like state forest or whatnot. So I

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was doing a lot more ground hunting. So I would

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follow the trails and then find spots like volts or

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nice outcroppings to tuck into and sit. Sometimes there's like

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a whole thick rhododendron mountain Laurel Forest Park aspect to it,

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that's like another climate of it. You get into that

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and it's real thick, but you see deer trails and

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stuff where it's like tunnels. So you're getting down and

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like crawling through these tunnels. And then there was a

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point where I was doing that and then it was

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like a space in there where it was like it

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blew my mind. I was like something's been bedding down

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in here, but it doesn't look like deer, like deer

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could have been in there. I didn't really see any

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sign of deer. I did find while I was before

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I crawled in through some of those tunnels. I did

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find some scat, and I just thoughted off as like

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a buck scat, because bucks a difference between a bucks

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and a doze. Poop a buck, it'll be pellets, but

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it'll be clumped in like the shape of a turd.

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But this was in that shape, but it wasn't real

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pellety like U and the deer. There are days they

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pooped more scattered pellets, and the young ones will as

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as well too, So I was like, huh, they must

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have ate something wet or something. It didn't really form

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into pellets. It just kind of came out like a turd.

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And then I'm like thinking to myself, well, usually if

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they eat something wet and it makes them founder, they

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usually get the runs instead of cooping anything solid at all.

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So I was kind of puzzled by that. But while

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I was in there, in that clear like matted down

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area inside there, I call it a clearing, but it

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was still enclosed above me like a canopy, So it's

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kind of like a cave inside. This word avndra for us,

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and I could hear stuff outside, and I'm like, oh,

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maybe I kicked some deer up, so I scurried on out.

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But I never saw any deer running. And all the

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noise I ever heard was always out of like at

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a distance, at a distance at least twenty thirty feet distant,

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in the thick of the cover behind cover. That was

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my first mountain house. I had another mountain house up

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in that area as well. That one I was at

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a lot longer, and I had a lot of strange

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stuff going on there. I had yeah, see, I had

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a four acre lot there with natural spring streams and

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runoff streams that would come down, and my house was

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kind of like in the corner of like a little field,

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and the rest was like all the forest and wooded

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h I had four acres and or four and a

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half acres, and what wasn't mine was all the state forest.

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Again big for society. Who would be right back after

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these messages.

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And this one I would I had some stuff. I

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would get corn from a farmer at work, and I

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would put out in piles on the off season. I

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wouldn't bait deer to haunt over the pile or anything

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like that. I fed the squirrels and the turkeys because

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I liked them. Teaching my sons about the stuff too.

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I figured I'd pass on the legacy like my father

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had to me when we were young. Gettysburg is pretty

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close to that area and where we grew up, so

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we would when we were young, we would get in

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like camouflage and go out to the battlefield, and because

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nobody would be able to hunt out on the battlefield,

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and that would be kind of like our training for hunting,

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because we would get all canoed out and see how

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close we could get to the herds of deer before

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where we would skip before they would get alerted and

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get spooked and run off. And it was actually something

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my dad did when he was younger too with my pappy,

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so he kind of passed it on to us. And

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you know, it was like training in a sense. So

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there was times where some of the corn it would

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be shelled corn, but there'd still be some that would

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still have like chunks of corn cob or some cobs

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still there. And there would be times you'd notice it

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disappearing and I go up put some out and then

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wait a week or two and then go up and

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check it again, and all right, that's gone. I'll put

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some more out. So after about a year and a

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half or so of doing this, one time I put

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corn out and I went up two days later because

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it was right by behind. It was like a clearing

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behind my burnt my fire pit. I had like a

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ten foot stone fire pit that I made, and we

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would have bonfires there and on the front half of it,

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or the front third, like if you were to this

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ten foot around in the front third of it, I

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would use for cooking. I would. I work with woods.

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So I was like, heck, I worked with all kinds

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of hardwoods and stuff. This is awesome. I can just

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cook on the pit. Actually I was cook on that

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pit even when it was snow out. Sometimes I had

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a pathway shoulder up there. I loved cooking on that thing.

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So I went up like two days later and all

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the corn was gone. And it wasn't like no like

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little kernel's remnants laying behind or nothing. It was like

456
00:32:49.319 --> 00:32:53.160
something like ate it all and swept the area clean.

457
00:32:53.240 --> 00:32:56.480
It was all fresh dirt, like fresh fresh. You could

458
00:32:56.559 --> 00:33:01.279
smell the fresh dirt. What the heck? So I was like,

459
00:33:01.319 --> 00:33:03.599
all right, Well, I got another. I got the other

460
00:33:03.640 --> 00:33:05.759
half of this bag, I'm gonna go down and throw

461
00:33:05.799 --> 00:33:11.799
it out. So I did that, and this time I

462
00:33:11.799 --> 00:33:15.720
took a couple of little tree limbs, like little twiggly limbs,

463
00:33:15.759 --> 00:33:17.599
and just like laid it on top of the corn,

464
00:33:18.519 --> 00:33:20.880
thinking like maybe this will slow them down a little

465
00:33:20.880 --> 00:33:26.880
bit or something. So I went up on the weekend,

466
00:33:27.200 --> 00:33:33.480
like a Saturday, and the little twiggly things were gone completely.

467
00:33:33.599 --> 00:33:35.359
It wasn't like it was just set off to the

468
00:33:35.400 --> 00:33:40.960
side or drugged away or anything like that. I'm like,

469
00:33:41.039 --> 00:33:44.640
what the heck's going on here? Like the squirrels ain't

470
00:33:44.720 --> 00:33:48.559
doing this, and the turkeys aren't doing this. I can't

471
00:33:48.599 --> 00:33:53.160
really see the deer grabbing the tree limbs and putting

472
00:33:53.200 --> 00:33:58.039
them back into a brush pile or something. So I

473
00:33:58.200 --> 00:34:03.519
just went about my way, kept doing it, and then

474
00:34:05.640 --> 00:34:15.119
eventually I would put two corn cobs on top, and

475
00:34:15.239 --> 00:34:17.360
I just like laymp side by side and just set

476
00:34:17.400 --> 00:34:19.039
them on top of I'm like, all right, let's see

477
00:34:19.039 --> 00:34:22.559
what happens here after about the fifth or sixth time

478
00:34:22.679 --> 00:34:28.280
of replenishing this, after it's been completely dusted away, like

479
00:34:28.440 --> 00:34:31.360
there wasn't even any like dust leftover from the corn

480
00:34:31.480 --> 00:34:38.159
or anything. It was weird. So I came back and

481
00:34:38.280 --> 00:34:40.480
all the corn was I left it go for like

482
00:34:40.519 --> 00:34:46.079
two weeks, and I come back and all the corn

483
00:34:46.239 --> 00:34:52.239
was gone, even the cobs. And I'm like, man, they

484
00:34:52.400 --> 00:34:54.920
say they must be having a rough year if they're

485
00:34:54.960 --> 00:35:01.000
that hungry. They're eating the cobs too. So I filled

486
00:35:01.039 --> 00:35:03.800
it again on the two week mark, and then I

487
00:35:03.880 --> 00:35:08.320
put bigger limbs where it was like i'd say about

488
00:35:08.480 --> 00:35:12.760
inch long at where they broke off of the tree

489
00:35:13.119 --> 00:35:18.000
and stacked like a little bit of a brush like

490
00:35:18.119 --> 00:35:22.559
one top of it, thinking maybe it'll last a little longer.

491
00:35:26.320 --> 00:35:30.199
So I went back up three days later, and these

492
00:35:30.320 --> 00:35:34.159
limbs were literally like thrown like you can see where

493
00:35:34.199 --> 00:35:37.760
it was like thrown and then stuck like some of

494
00:35:37.760 --> 00:35:40.760
them would dig into the dirt a little bit where

495
00:35:40.760 --> 00:35:44.119
the heavy end was the base I guess you would

496
00:35:44.239 --> 00:35:48.199
call it. And I'm like, what the heck is going on?

497
00:35:48.679 --> 00:35:53.000
This is freaking weird. So I'm like, all right, you

498
00:35:53.039 --> 00:35:56.679
know what, I'm going to give them two weeks off,

499
00:35:56.760 --> 00:35:59.920
see how they like that. Maybe they'll appreciate it a

500
00:36:00.079 --> 00:36:02.880
little more or something, you know, just thinking stupid stuff

501
00:36:02.920 --> 00:36:07.360
to myself because it was getting a little expensive. I

502
00:36:07.400 --> 00:36:09.760
was getting a bag of corn from the farmer. It

503
00:36:09.880 --> 00:36:14.119
was like fifty pounds for like eight bucks at the time.

504
00:36:16.920 --> 00:36:19.760
And I came back after the I didn't necessarily go

505
00:36:19.880 --> 00:36:22.679
back after two weeks that time. I went back three

506
00:36:22.719 --> 00:36:27.360
weeks later and there was two corn cobs placed in

507
00:36:27.440 --> 00:36:33.760
an x in the bear spot. And now, mind you,

508
00:36:33.800 --> 00:36:37.719
when I left the last time, there was nothing there whatsoever,

509
00:36:37.800 --> 00:36:40.559
And the limbs were laying it like stabbed into the

510
00:36:40.639 --> 00:36:43.840
dirt twenty feet away from where I stuck them, ten

511
00:36:43.880 --> 00:36:47.159
twenty feet away from where I stuck them somewhere ever closer,

512
00:36:47.239 --> 00:36:49.920
somewhere farther. But it's like something walked over and just

513
00:36:50.360 --> 00:36:52.159
like if I were to walk up to it and

514
00:36:52.199 --> 00:36:55.000
be like huh and just reach down and chuck the

515
00:36:55.079 --> 00:36:57.400
limbs off to the side just to get to corn.

516
00:36:57.599 --> 00:37:01.800
And like, I'm like, what the heck's going on here?

517
00:37:01.920 --> 00:37:04.960
This ain't squirrels. Squirrel might be carrying a lot of

518
00:37:04.960 --> 00:37:07.880
this stuff back and hiding it or putting it in

519
00:37:07.920 --> 00:37:10.559
their nest, but they're not going to put these corn,

520
00:37:10.920 --> 00:37:14.960
these two corn cobs here in the middle like an X.

521
00:37:16.880 --> 00:37:21.280
I was like something I'm thinking back to my other

522
00:37:22.000 --> 00:37:28.159
encounters and I'm like, they're literally asking me for more.

523
00:37:28.719 --> 00:37:32.719
In my mind seeing this, you know what I mean, Like,

524
00:37:33.320 --> 00:37:36.760
what does that in nature? A bear's not going to

525
00:37:36.840 --> 00:37:39.639
do that, A deer is not going to do that,

526
00:37:39.719 --> 00:37:42.000
and I'm pretty sure a squirrel's not going to do

527
00:37:42.079 --> 00:37:50.079
that either. So I've filled about. I'd like a camp

528
00:37:50.840 --> 00:37:54.679
a boy boy scouts like a knapsack backpack, like a

529
00:37:54.800 --> 00:38:00.519
canvas backpack, and that's what I was feet. I would

530
00:38:00.559 --> 00:38:03.199
fill it up and they it would hold about fifteen

531
00:38:03.280 --> 00:38:06.320
pounds of corn, and I'd carry it up and i'd

532
00:38:06.360 --> 00:38:10.519
stick it dumped it out. So I dumped it out.

533
00:38:10.800 --> 00:38:14.159
I put the two corn cobs back on top like

534
00:38:14.239 --> 00:38:17.960
an X again and laid a big limb on top

535
00:38:18.039 --> 00:38:20.880
of it. Now, this is like a twenty foot limb

536
00:38:20.880 --> 00:38:24.719
that had branches coming off of the limb itself and everything.

537
00:38:26.599 --> 00:38:33.440
I went up. Eight days later, the limb was pulsed

538
00:38:33.440 --> 00:38:38.599
aside again. This time the big part, the bottom or

539
00:38:38.639 --> 00:38:41.760
the base part of it was stuck up in a

540
00:38:41.840 --> 00:38:46.559
tree limb, and the twiggly parts was down into this

541
00:38:46.679 --> 00:38:52.679
fallen tree that was back behind that fallen hemlock tree

542
00:38:52.719 --> 00:39:01.599
that came down in a storm about a year beforehand.

543
00:39:02.320 --> 00:39:06.400
And all the corn was gone again. But there's two

544
00:39:06.480 --> 00:39:10.119
corn cobs were stuck back in that spot, that bear spot,

545
00:39:10.440 --> 00:39:16.360
fresh soil showing in an ex and I'm like, get

546
00:39:16.440 --> 00:39:20.079
out of here, no way, Like I can't even tell

547
00:39:20.119 --> 00:39:22.599
people about it. They're not going to do this, Like

548
00:39:23.800 --> 00:39:30.239
there's no way this is happening right now. So that

549
00:39:30.440 --> 00:39:33.719
land once for a good while, pretty much until I

550
00:39:33.760 --> 00:39:37.840
got tired of this having corn disappear in a very

551
00:39:37.880 --> 00:39:44.159
fast amount of time. I had gotten some chickens from

552
00:39:44.199 --> 00:39:48.119
my dad before he had gotten sick, so I ended

553
00:39:48.199 --> 00:39:51.320
up with like I had a couple myself, and then

554
00:39:51.320 --> 00:39:53.000
I got all of his, so I ended up with

555
00:39:53.039 --> 00:39:59.440
like thirteen hens that were all laying chickens egg laying chickens,

556
00:39:59.599 --> 00:40:01.599
and so I was like, well, I need to spend

557
00:40:01.679 --> 00:40:05.679
money on chicken feed now instead of feeding the wildlife.

558
00:40:06.679 --> 00:40:11.519
So I went on with that and kind of gave

559
00:40:11.559 --> 00:40:14.199
that part of but I would have some weird stuff

560
00:40:14.239 --> 00:40:19.920
happening to me while I was up hunting too. Ah.

561
00:40:23.280 --> 00:40:30.440
There was one time, well, I gotta before I get

562
00:40:30.480 --> 00:40:35.199
into the hunting things. It's about half a year a

563
00:40:35.280 --> 00:40:38.119
year or so, not quite half a year, but not

564
00:40:38.199 --> 00:40:46.880
quite a year. After I'd gotten the chickens. For some reason,

565
00:40:46.960 --> 00:40:57.719
my dog would go to the wall that was in

566
00:40:57.800 --> 00:41:01.480
between like facing the chicken coot. It was a shed

567
00:41:02.159 --> 00:41:05.719
that I turned into a chicken coot and had to

568
00:41:05.880 --> 00:41:09.519
run and fenced out around it and everything made a

569
00:41:09.599 --> 00:41:12.360
laying box for him and everything that didn't go out,

570
00:41:12.760 --> 00:41:16.639
and I would let them wall while range free range

571
00:41:17.880 --> 00:41:20.320
feed on bugs and stuff. I got a lot more

572
00:41:20.320 --> 00:41:24.000
eggs from them that one, nice big ones too, extra

573
00:41:24.079 --> 00:41:29.119
proteins and stuff. This was at like twelve thirty at night.

574
00:41:30.239 --> 00:41:35.159
My dog went to that wall, hair standing up, growling,

575
00:41:35.480 --> 00:41:39.960
head down like she was pointing, but in like defensive mood.

576
00:41:42.039 --> 00:41:44.199
And I was trying to call her over, Callie, come in,

577
00:41:44.360 --> 00:41:48.360
come here. She wouldn't come and respond to me. She

578
00:41:49.000 --> 00:41:51.639
at one point she looked at me like out of

579
00:41:51.639 --> 00:41:57.480
the side of her eye and went right like stayed growling,

580
00:41:57.519 --> 00:42:01.519
and she didn't bark, but she crowed like a like

581
00:42:01.559 --> 00:42:04.360
a vicious growl. And I was like, I have never

582
00:42:04.440 --> 00:42:09.199
heard her do that before in my life. She used

583
00:42:09.199 --> 00:42:11.440
to be like a sentry guard to my kids when

584
00:42:11.440 --> 00:42:13.639
they were babies, Like nobody would be able to go

585
00:42:13.719 --> 00:42:18.119
near the bassinette but me and the mother, But she

586
00:42:18.239 --> 00:42:22.800
never made that kind of noise. She would just but

587
00:42:22.960 --> 00:42:27.400
she was viciously growling at the wall, and I'm like,

588
00:42:27.480 --> 00:42:34.000
what the heck. So I'm like, I wonder if there's

589
00:42:34.000 --> 00:42:36.840
a bear out there. So I go. I grabbed my

590
00:42:36.920 --> 00:42:40.800
gun out of the closet they had the I had

591
00:42:40.800 --> 00:42:44.119
a closet down and the one room at the bottom

592
00:42:44.119 --> 00:42:47.079
of the steps. Then I had a gun safe in there.

593
00:42:47.719 --> 00:42:50.000
So I grabbed my gun out. I walked out the

594
00:42:50.039 --> 00:42:53.880
back door, which was actually ironically the door that we used.

595
00:42:53.880 --> 00:42:57.519
The front door was kind of sealed off. Yeah, so

596
00:42:57.559 --> 00:42:59.760
we just used that and there's a pathway between the

597
00:42:59.800 --> 00:43:03.400
house and that SHD. So I got my light, I

598
00:43:03.440 --> 00:43:06.679
got my gun. I'm looking scanning in the yard, scanning

599
00:43:06.719 --> 00:43:13.280
the chicken cut chickens. Chickens weren't even really like making

600
00:43:13.320 --> 00:43:16.760
any noise or anything. What the heck's going on here?

601
00:43:17.199 --> 00:43:21.679
She had. I would mix the feed in like a

602
00:43:21.679 --> 00:43:25.639
steel trash can of the lid. I would get like

603
00:43:25.719 --> 00:43:31.760
three different types of bags of stuff, corn, pellets, and

604
00:43:31.920 --> 00:43:35.840
uh birds while birds seed, and I mix that up

605
00:43:35.880 --> 00:43:40.840
and that's what I fed my chickens. I'm like, well,

606
00:43:40.840 --> 00:43:44.679
nothing messed with the cane or nothing that did still

607
00:43:44.719 --> 00:43:48.920
want it. So I went back in and eventually I

608
00:43:48.960 --> 00:43:53.280
got her to calm down, but uh, it took about

609
00:43:53.320 --> 00:43:55.639
an hour and a half for her to actually like

610
00:43:56.679 --> 00:44:01.440
stand down, And when she did, she was like like

611
00:44:02.079 --> 00:44:06.280
smort and like like she was frustrated. Should have sensed

612
00:44:06.280 --> 00:44:09.039
what I was sensing, Like she was irritated with me

613
00:44:09.239 --> 00:44:11.920
and whatever was out there. At the same time, she

614
00:44:11.960 --> 00:44:18.519
would kind of do that little routine and that just

615
00:44:18.880 --> 00:44:21.440
that was another thing that just like fucked me up.

616
00:44:21.679 --> 00:44:25.880
And I didn't see any signs. Nothing was really messed with.

617
00:44:26.519 --> 00:44:30.960
I don't know if like they heard her. It was

618
00:44:31.000 --> 00:44:38.280
like being curious what but uh yeah. So then there

619
00:44:38.360 --> 00:44:41.679
was times where I'd be out hunting and I would

620
00:44:41.679 --> 00:44:45.800
hear that I hear a weird birds sound again. This

621
00:44:45.960 --> 00:44:48.880
time it was like something trying to mimic a turkey call,

622
00:44:50.119 --> 00:44:54.079
to the point where it sounded mechanical, like like a

623
00:44:54.199 --> 00:45:02.719
rusty barnhinge door like kind of sound. Well, not haunting

624
00:45:02.880 --> 00:45:05.079
normally dusty.

625
00:45:05.239 --> 00:45:11.079
Sorry, I apologize real quick. Are you saying that the

626
00:45:11.079 --> 00:45:14.119
the turkey call sounded rusty or it was a completely

627
00:45:14.119 --> 00:45:15.840
different sound than the turkey call.

628
00:45:17.000 --> 00:45:21.960
Yeah, it sounded like somebody was it sounded like there.

629
00:45:22.000 --> 00:45:23.719
I knew there was turkeys up there because I had

630
00:45:23.760 --> 00:45:26.000
have them come through my yard and I'd have them

631
00:45:26.039 --> 00:45:27.559
across the road from me.

632
00:45:27.639 --> 00:45:30.320
You could see them big for society would be right

633
00:45:30.360 --> 00:45:31.679
back after these messages.

634
00:45:47.599 --> 00:45:51.440
It'd be like four or five harems out there, Tom's

635
00:45:51.480 --> 00:45:55.039
and all these hens and the jakes walking around and stuff.

636
00:45:55.360 --> 00:45:59.079
I've dealt. I've haunted turkeys and encounter turkeysack. We used

637
00:45:59.079 --> 00:46:02.719
to raise them on the phone and release them. But

638
00:46:03.280 --> 00:46:06.719
it wasn't it sounded like something trying to make a

639
00:46:06.760 --> 00:46:11.519
turkey call. It sounded mechanical, like like a metal rusty

640
00:46:11.559 --> 00:46:15.639
barn hinge instead of an actual like turkey turkey call.

641
00:46:16.320 --> 00:46:19.360
And it wasn't like somebody was out some novice hunter

642
00:46:19.519 --> 00:46:23.079
was out there trying to make turkey sounds, because I'm like, well,

643
00:46:23.119 --> 00:46:27.119
you was hunting turkeys in the deer season, like you

644
00:46:27.199 --> 00:46:33.840
don't do that, But yeah, it was. It sounded literally

645
00:46:33.920 --> 00:46:38.000
like after it got closer and stuff, it sounded literally

646
00:46:38.039 --> 00:46:41.519
like somebody was taking a rusty barn door and opening

647
00:46:41.679 --> 00:46:46.320
up and the hinges was like, and I'm like, what

648
00:46:46.360 --> 00:46:50.239
the heck is this going on? And in the woods

649
00:46:50.239 --> 00:46:54.360
would get silent like you wouldn't hear no insects, you

650
00:46:54.400 --> 00:47:00.920
wouldn't hear news, like, no squirrel activity anymore, no crows calling, nothing,

651
00:47:01.159 --> 00:47:07.480
no birds nothing. It was complete dead silence, like a

652
00:47:07.480 --> 00:47:14.239
hormoney whoa. Now. The only time I've ever noticed it

653
00:47:14.280 --> 00:47:18.440
gets silent in the woods is hey, when I'm walking

654
00:47:18.480 --> 00:47:20.840
to my tree stand, if I'm too loud, or if

655
00:47:20.880 --> 00:47:24.559
I have my kids with me and they're walking louder

656
00:47:24.599 --> 00:47:29.400
than I do. Until after you get settled, after about

657
00:47:29.400 --> 00:47:32.880
a half hour, activity will pick back up again and

658
00:47:32.920 --> 00:47:42.239
stuff like that. But it was nearly dead silence, and

659
00:47:42.639 --> 00:47:45.719
it never got real close. It always stayed off like

660
00:47:45.960 --> 00:47:49.599
forty yards away, forty fifty yards away that sound. That

661
00:47:49.679 --> 00:47:52.320
was the closest that ever got. But you would hear

662
00:47:52.360 --> 00:47:57.599
it always away like over on the other writ like

663
00:47:59.039 --> 00:48:02.039
kind of like rolling up through there. It would like

664
00:48:02.719 --> 00:48:05.559
you'd have like a ridge line, and then it would

665
00:48:05.840 --> 00:48:07.679
plateau a little bit, and then it would have another

666
00:48:07.760 --> 00:48:13.760
ridge line up up like a up climb to another top,

667
00:48:14.039 --> 00:48:16.400
and then flatten out for a while and then it

668
00:48:16.400 --> 00:48:19.039
would raise up again. That's how it is up through

669
00:48:19.079 --> 00:48:22.960
there on that that area. And there's a bunch of

670
00:48:23.039 --> 00:48:28.800
old log words over there too, from back in the

671
00:48:28.840 --> 00:48:31.679
back in the early nineteen hundreds and stuff when they

672
00:48:31.679 --> 00:48:35.119
were logging out of there. I've actually found old log

673
00:48:35.320 --> 00:48:40.519
foundations from like camps where they would have like like

674
00:48:40.559 --> 00:48:43.599
a supply camp or like a rest camp or whatever

675
00:48:43.719 --> 00:48:47.320
for their workers and stuff like that, maybe like a

676
00:48:47.360 --> 00:48:51.639
mess hall type deal, just the old foundations where it

677
00:48:51.639 --> 00:48:56.480
would be like four log stack tie all the way around,

678
00:48:56.559 --> 00:48:59.760
and then I guess they would put like their their canvas.

679
00:49:00.079 --> 00:49:04.679
Can it be up like a canvas pavilion type thing

680
00:49:04.880 --> 00:49:15.199
or enclosed tent what have you. So, But yeah, there'd

681
00:49:15.239 --> 00:49:19.320
be other times where I'd be up there hunting and

682
00:49:20.079 --> 00:49:24.119
you know, I hear squirrels drop down. You can tell,

683
00:49:24.159 --> 00:49:26.679
like I've been hunting all my life and out in

684
00:49:26.719 --> 00:49:29.760
the wilderness all my life, even when I wasn't hunting,

685
00:49:29.880 --> 00:49:35.320
just hiking. I love taking in nature, exploring. I love exploring.

686
00:49:35.519 --> 00:49:40.639
That's my that's my nature. And there'd be times where

687
00:49:40.679 --> 00:49:44.599
like you could hear squirrels run around and I'd be

688
00:49:44.639 --> 00:49:50.679
watching them and stuff, and it would sound like something

689
00:49:52.480 --> 00:49:55.199
something coming in either it'd be in front of me

690
00:49:55.559 --> 00:50:00.800
or beside me or behind me, and then activity would

691
00:50:00.840 --> 00:50:06.800
stop again, Oh what's going on? Here, and I know

692
00:50:06.840 --> 00:50:09.679
there's some black bears around the area. They're pretty scarce,

693
00:50:09.760 --> 00:50:12.599
so they don't really they don't really come around during

694
00:50:12.639 --> 00:50:17.920
the daytime too much, especially near residential areas. They usually

695
00:50:18.000 --> 00:50:21.519
wait till the cover of darkness to go and knock

696
00:50:21.559 --> 00:50:24.400
it over people's bird feeders and eat all that up

697
00:50:24.480 --> 00:50:27.280
and stuff like that. I actually had one bear that

698
00:50:27.320 --> 00:50:31.000
I had chased out of my chicken shed coop area,

699
00:50:32.039 --> 00:50:36.519
and that was like sniffing around my feed can I

700
00:50:36.639 --> 00:50:39.599
call it a feed can trash can that I had

701
00:50:39.719 --> 00:50:42.840
with the lid, had my feed stored, and I'd come

702
00:50:42.920 --> 00:50:45.760
in from work and bear would go running up through

703
00:50:45.800 --> 00:50:50.559
the through the yard and into the woods. That happened

704
00:50:50.599 --> 00:50:54.599
like once or twice, but that was that was more

705
00:50:54.679 --> 00:50:57.559
after my dog got older and wasn't going out quite

706
00:50:57.599 --> 00:51:01.639
as much. I guess they sensed, hey, this dogs not

707
00:51:01.800 --> 00:51:05.039
out and about not as active around here, so let's

708
00:51:05.079 --> 00:51:10.519
go see what we can see type of deal. But

709
00:51:10.760 --> 00:51:14.639
uh yeah, so I would play that stuff off a

710
00:51:14.639 --> 00:51:20.280
little bit. One time, my kids were my boys were

711
00:51:20.280 --> 00:51:30.679
out side playing and they're about eight and ten maybe

712
00:51:31.480 --> 00:51:36.800
give or take a year, maybe a little younger, and

713
00:51:37.800 --> 00:51:40.519
I was outside doing stuff, splitting wood for the fire

714
00:51:40.599 --> 00:51:44.880
pit and cleaning out the chicken coop and stuff. And

715
00:51:44.960 --> 00:51:49.320
I come back out and they're up in the trees,

716
00:51:51.400 --> 00:51:53.760
climbed up real high, higher than I ever seen them climb.

717
00:51:54.760 --> 00:51:58.159
They never really even climbed the trees. Really, they're adventurous,

718
00:51:58.159 --> 00:52:00.400
but they weren't. They never really climbed tree. Was like that,

719
00:52:01.800 --> 00:52:03.639
and I was like, I didn't see him at first.

720
00:52:03.679 --> 00:52:06.199
I was nervous. I was like, you know, hollering for

721
00:52:06.320 --> 00:52:10.599
him and my oldest boys like over the air and

722
00:52:10.800 --> 00:52:14.320
kind of like chuckled and laughed. I'm like, oh, what

723
00:52:14.360 --> 00:52:19.960
are you doing up there, dude? And he's like, well,

724
00:52:20.000 --> 00:52:24.800
where'd he go? I'm like who? And he's like the

725
00:52:24.920 --> 00:52:29.800
gorilla man. I'm like what. He's like, yeah, he told

726
00:52:29.880 --> 00:52:33.159
us how to climb the tree. So we did it.

727
00:52:33.519 --> 00:52:36.119
And I'm like, what are you talking about, dude? Like

728
00:52:37.119 --> 00:52:41.400
what like? So I'm like, well, come down, and they're

729
00:52:41.440 --> 00:52:44.519
like we're having fun. So I'm like, well, just be careful,

730
00:52:45.039 --> 00:52:48.039
make sure you don't like step on any small branches,

731
00:52:48.079 --> 00:52:50.440
make sure you test them first before you put your

732
00:52:50.440 --> 00:52:54.559
weight on them, and always have three points of contact.

733
00:52:54.960 --> 00:52:58.480
And he's like now, and I'm like went back to

734
00:52:58.599 --> 00:53:02.159
like doing my thing, but always looking about at the

735
00:53:02.199 --> 00:53:06.719
same time, like Leary, like the gorilla man. Did they

736
00:53:06.800 --> 00:53:12.440
see something like I seen years ago? Like I've never

737
00:53:12.480 --> 00:53:15.360
heard him say this before, Like this was odd, this

738
00:53:15.480 --> 00:53:18.880
was strange. I've never heard him say anything like that

739
00:53:19.000 --> 00:53:27.239
again or before. So I kind of asked him. I

740
00:53:27.280 --> 00:53:30.360
was like, well, what did it look like? And they're like,

741
00:53:30.440 --> 00:53:35.440
I don't know, like a gorilla man. And I'm like,

742
00:53:36.360 --> 00:53:39.360
are you can messing with me? And they're like no,

743
00:53:40.440 --> 00:53:43.840
he was over in the woods, and I was like,

744
00:53:45.079 --> 00:53:50.159
what the heck? So I was like all right. When

745
00:53:50.159 --> 00:53:52.440
they got him in, I was like, well, come on down,

746
00:53:52.480 --> 00:53:55.599
it's about time for dinner. So I got him inside

747
00:53:56.480 --> 00:54:00.119
and I pulled the mother aside and I'm like, look,

748
00:54:01.000 --> 00:54:04.559
don't ever let them play outside by themselves, at least

749
00:54:04.559 --> 00:54:06.840
be on the porch or sitting on the steps or

750
00:54:06.840 --> 00:54:09.480
something if you're not tending to the chickens or something

751
00:54:09.599 --> 00:54:13.000
like that, because I was in like I didn't want

752
00:54:13.000 --> 00:54:16.800
them to get snatched up or anything like I don't

753
00:54:16.800 --> 00:54:19.079
even know what I would do or something like that

754
00:54:19.159 --> 00:54:21.760
happened with my kid, Like that's my kid, you know

755
00:54:21.840 --> 00:54:22.239
what I mean?

756
00:54:25.760 --> 00:54:30.400
Did she also ever have a sighting that you're aware.

757
00:54:30.159 --> 00:54:38.280
Of, not that I'm aware of, but I think the

758
00:54:38.559 --> 00:54:45.719
boys had something else happen, because there was times where

759
00:54:45.760 --> 00:54:49.960
like they would ride their bikes down the hill of

760
00:54:49.960 --> 00:54:54.000
the yard and they would ride it around the house

761
00:54:54.280 --> 00:54:57.320
and then go back up to up by the fire pit,

762
00:54:57.760 --> 00:55:02.199
and that was like their little syndicate looper whatever. And

763
00:55:02.199 --> 00:55:04.639
there was a couple of times where I was like, Oh,

764
00:55:04.679 --> 00:55:07.440
they're just out riding their bikes. They're cool, and she

765
00:55:07.559 --> 00:55:11.440
was like she had this weird expression on her face

766
00:55:11.599 --> 00:55:15.039
that I've never really seen her have before, and she

767
00:55:15.239 --> 00:55:19.199
was like, uh, I'll go out and sit with them, okay.

768
00:55:21.079 --> 00:55:24.960
But no, not that, not that she'd ever like conveyed

769
00:55:25.000 --> 00:55:27.639
to me that her relays and that she ever had

770
00:55:27.719 --> 00:55:32.480
any kind of experience or anything. She never really went

771
00:55:32.519 --> 00:55:35.440
into the woods too much unless I was like, hey,

772
00:55:35.480 --> 00:55:37.840
come check this out. Like I did show that to

773
00:55:37.960 --> 00:55:42.199
her a couple when that corn pile stuff was going on,

774
00:55:42.320 --> 00:55:45.840
and she was just like big eyed looking at me,

775
00:55:45.960 --> 00:55:48.519
like what the heck are you talking about? Dude? What

776
00:55:48.679 --> 00:55:52.239
am I looking at? She was I don't know if

777
00:55:52.239 --> 00:55:55.199
she was grasping it or if she was surprised or

778
00:55:55.199 --> 00:55:59.079
what like, but no, she didn't really have anything like

779
00:55:59.159 --> 00:56:09.239
that happened. But there was a couple of times. There

780
00:56:09.320 --> 00:56:15.440
was one time in particular, after you walk into the

781
00:56:15.559 --> 00:56:18.679
opening out by my fire pit into the woods, it

782
00:56:18.800 --> 00:56:22.159
was like an opening and it was like kind of clear,

783
00:56:22.920 --> 00:56:27.280
but still had some older tall trees. Now these trees

784
00:56:27.280 --> 00:56:32.000
are at least sixty seventy foot tall, big old trees,

785
00:56:32.079 --> 00:56:36.840
I mean big around as a dresser. And there was

786
00:56:36.880 --> 00:56:40.920
one right near this streambed bank where my artesian well was,

787
00:56:41.519 --> 00:56:43.239
and it had like a little cubby hole in the

788
00:56:43.320 --> 00:56:46.840
root system there, and it was like a little shelf

789
00:56:48.199 --> 00:56:50.519
bank that I could actually sit there and I would

790
00:56:50.559 --> 00:56:53.800
hunt there sometimes if I didn't feel it, like if

791
00:56:53.840 --> 00:56:55.880
I didn't feel like doing a lot of walking, and

792
00:56:55.960 --> 00:57:00.920
I knew noticed that nobody, like none of the kids

793
00:57:00.960 --> 00:57:03.679
were out playing up that way too much or whatever.

794
00:57:04.159 --> 00:57:06.360
I just would be like, oh, I'll just sit out

795
00:57:06.360 --> 00:57:08.000
here for a couple of hours, see if there any

796
00:57:08.039 --> 00:57:12.519
deer come rosing down through the trails. Well, I noticed

797
00:57:12.559 --> 00:57:17.440
there was this one tree, and there's a network of

798
00:57:17.559 --> 00:57:22.960
trails I was straight across from where I sat, and

799
00:57:23.039 --> 00:57:25.920
this thing was about the size of a between a

800
00:57:25.960 --> 00:57:28.880
two liter and a one liter bottle of soda in

801
00:57:28.920 --> 00:57:33.239
a diameter, and I had seen it while I was

802
00:57:33.280 --> 00:57:36.320
walking trails one day. I would walk trails and go

803
00:57:36.440 --> 00:57:43.159
up around and explore and stuff. And well I did

804
00:57:43.159 --> 00:57:45.440
this little like big loop. I went up and found

805
00:57:45.440 --> 00:57:48.000
the wall road and followed the wall, rode down and

806
00:57:48.039 --> 00:57:50.480
then found the other stream that fed the other side

807
00:57:50.519 --> 00:57:54.920
of my yard. And I was like, I followed the

808
00:57:54.960 --> 00:57:57.639
stream and then I came to this fern patch. It

809
00:57:57.760 --> 00:58:00.599
was like a big clearing the ferns growing in it.

810
00:58:02.159 --> 00:58:08.480
It was kind of like salgy, mushy, spongy type ground there,

811
00:58:10.440 --> 00:58:12.880
but there was like a clearing in the canopy where

812
00:58:12.880 --> 00:58:15.639
the sun came through. And I guess it was perfect

813
00:58:15.719 --> 00:58:21.679
for those ferns. I mean it was about half an acre.

814
00:58:22.440 --> 00:58:27.880
I just ferns there. This is pretty cool. So I

815
00:58:28.000 --> 00:58:30.480
kept following that because I knew that was just that

816
00:58:30.639 --> 00:58:34.360
was where a stream that was you know, apologizing out

817
00:58:34.400 --> 00:58:41.679
my dog. But yeah, so I walked on the trail

818
00:58:41.800 --> 00:58:44.440
and I came as soon as I came through like

819
00:58:44.480 --> 00:58:46.480
where it got thick again. And then it was like

820
00:58:47.199 --> 00:58:50.760
a little more open for us, like hard woods and

821
00:58:50.800 --> 00:58:55.000
maybe some hemlocks. There's a lot of oaks, a lot

822
00:58:55.039 --> 00:59:01.039
of white oaks up there, white and it's actually a

823
00:59:01.079 --> 00:59:07.920
lot of poplar trees too. And I found that right

824
00:59:08.000 --> 00:59:14.079
beside where this trail comes out of that thick spot,

825
00:59:14.320 --> 00:59:17.320
there was this tree that was about, like I said,

826
00:59:17.320 --> 00:59:19.679
about the size of it, in between the two leader

827
00:59:19.760 --> 00:59:22.840
and a one liter bottle of soda. Man my machete

828
00:59:22.840 --> 00:59:24.480
with me, and I'm like, I can see where I

829
00:59:24.519 --> 00:59:28.559
sit from here, and I've seen deer coming in and

830
00:59:28.599 --> 00:59:31.519
out of here before. So I just took my machete

831
00:59:31.519 --> 00:59:36.440
in about shoulder height, knocked the bark off a little

832
00:59:36.440 --> 00:59:39.480
bit facing where I sit, so I can use that

833
00:59:39.519 --> 00:59:43.800
as like, all right, there's a night's white I called him.

834
00:59:44.000 --> 00:59:46.880
I used to do tree service with my cousin. He's

835
00:59:46.920 --> 00:59:50.920
a licensed arborist, and where you cut a limb off

836
00:59:51.039 --> 00:59:54.440
or whatever, we would call it white eyes, white eyes

837
00:59:54.480 --> 00:59:57.639
on the tree because it's usually white fresh wood there.

838
00:59:58.679 --> 01:00:01.239
So I scunned the bark off about the size of

839
01:00:01.280 --> 01:00:05.039
a cigarette pack or a cell phones to the standard

840
01:00:05.079 --> 01:00:06.159
today's size.

841
01:00:06.400 --> 01:00:09.679
Big for society will be right back after these messages.

842
01:00:25.199 --> 01:00:30.039
Cell phone. Just knocked it a little bit with my machete,

843
01:00:30.119 --> 01:00:33.440
just not to dig into the tree, just to peel

844
01:00:33.519 --> 01:00:36.079
some of the chop some of the bark off, scrape

845
01:00:36.119 --> 01:00:42.239
it off, like and uh, two weeks later I went

846
01:00:42.320 --> 01:00:45.440
up did the same loop around again because I would

847
01:00:45.519 --> 01:00:54.280
walk that style syndicate like if you will, uh, quite regularly.

848
01:00:55.480 --> 01:01:00.920
And actually it's funny because they're at the top of

849
01:01:00.960 --> 01:01:04.079
the hill up there, right before you get to the

850
01:01:04.159 --> 01:01:09.239
log road, there is this rock that rock out cropping

851
01:01:09.920 --> 01:01:14.400
and it comes up and sticks off the side of

852
01:01:14.440 --> 01:01:17.920
the hill to a point kind of like, uh, you

853
01:01:18.000 --> 01:01:23.320
ever seen the Lion King when when Rasiki takes baby

854
01:01:23.360 --> 01:01:26.079
symbol and holds him up for all the animals to

855
01:01:26.119 --> 01:01:32.039
see here or whatever. Yeah, absolutely, yeah, yeah, yeah, it

856
01:01:32.119 --> 01:01:34.280
was kind of like that. Well, me and my son's

857
01:01:34.559 --> 01:01:37.400
called it Haller Rock because that's where the howlers go

858
01:01:37.480 --> 01:01:39.440
to hall at night. You know. That's that was our

859
01:01:39.480 --> 01:01:44.679
little inside thing, you know. And when you're standing at

860
01:01:44.679 --> 01:01:47.199
the top of it, you're like in the middle of

861
01:01:47.239 --> 01:01:53.760
the trees that are downhill from you know, you're up there,

862
01:01:53.840 --> 01:01:57.840
like you if you look down, you're a good like

863
01:01:58.280 --> 01:02:02.039
twenty feet off the ground. But because it's a slope,

864
01:02:02.639 --> 01:02:09.480
it becomes higher than everything else to a point. So

865
01:02:09.599 --> 01:02:18.400
we called it Hallow Rock. But getting back to that tree.

866
01:02:18.679 --> 01:02:23.360
So I walked that syndicate again and I came over

867
01:02:23.440 --> 01:02:26.639
because there's a bunch of like intersecting networks of trails,

868
01:02:26.800 --> 01:02:30.239
game trails over the deer and it was like some

869
01:02:30.400 --> 01:02:37.480
highways man like constantly used like you see where dough

870
01:02:37.519 --> 01:02:40.480
and their farms would go, where the bucks would go,

871
01:02:41.239 --> 01:02:44.480
all kinds of rugs and stuff here and there. Different

872
01:02:44.519 --> 01:02:47.880
bucks would have different scrapes and rubs all in this

873
01:02:48.760 --> 01:02:53.079
big area that I walked. So I came out of

874
01:02:53.079 --> 01:02:56.519
that firm patch and into that thick spot again. And

875
01:02:56.599 --> 01:02:58.800
as soon as I got through and I looked over,

876
01:02:59.280 --> 01:03:02.719
that tree was literally if I were to take and

877
01:03:04.519 --> 01:03:11.000
stick my arm out at a diagonal upward, I snapped

878
01:03:11.079 --> 01:03:16.119
over opposite way of where the wind always blows coming

879
01:03:16.199 --> 01:03:21.360
up that up through that little like ravine area, and

880
01:03:21.400 --> 01:03:24.920
I was like and it was still like connected and attached.

881
01:03:26.320 --> 01:03:32.079
And I'm like, I just got this sense like like

882
01:03:33.199 --> 01:03:37.079
if it was like a sasquatch. It was like, what

883
01:03:37.639 --> 01:03:41.639
I didn't do this? How about that? You know, like

884
01:03:41.840 --> 01:03:46.360
type of thing like I made it may like marking

885
01:03:46.400 --> 01:03:49.360
my tree on my trail? What are you doing? Type

886
01:03:49.400 --> 01:03:54.880
thing like I'll show you is what I got it,

887
01:03:54.960 --> 01:03:57.800
like I got a sense of immediately when I seen

888
01:03:58.800 --> 01:04:03.280
because I'm like, what, what would do this? Nothing? I'm

889
01:04:03.280 --> 01:04:05.239
not going to be able to snap something like that.

890
01:04:05.880 --> 01:04:10.559
And I'm a pretty active, pretty physically fit guy I got.

891
01:04:11.199 --> 01:04:13.159
I'm not trying to say I'm a he man or

892
01:04:13.159 --> 01:04:15.920
a muscle man er, nothing like that, but I mean

893
01:04:16.119 --> 01:04:18.159
I get paid to lift things up and put them

894
01:04:18.199 --> 01:04:20.920
down and all day long pretty much, you know what

895
01:04:21.000 --> 01:04:23.880
I mean. I do construction and I actually do custom

896
01:04:23.920 --> 01:04:29.559
woodworking for the past past fifteen years or so or more.

897
01:04:30.119 --> 01:04:35.920
But I was it just blew my mind. And it

898
01:04:36.039 --> 01:04:40.519
stayed like that for the longest time. And where it

899
01:04:40.559 --> 01:04:42.920
was broken at it wasn't wouldn't be like if I

900
01:04:43.000 --> 01:04:46.400
were to be able to, like, would be able to

901
01:04:46.440 --> 01:04:51.679
snap that tree like that, it was it's higher than

902
01:04:51.719 --> 01:04:58.480
my head, So I was like, what the heck? So

903
01:04:58.599 --> 01:05:03.599
a little bit uphill from there, There's times where I

904
01:05:03.760 --> 01:05:13.440
was hunting in a tree stand and I would hear

905
01:05:13.480 --> 01:05:19.079
stuff like movement, heavy movement, but never see anything coming up.

906
01:05:19.199 --> 01:05:22.119
And there it would always stop right before it right

907
01:05:22.159 --> 01:05:25.000
where it got thick again, like it'd be a little

908
01:05:25.039 --> 01:05:30.400
bit open but still tree like still forest, but it

909
01:05:30.400 --> 01:05:33.920
wouldn't be as thick in spots. It'd be big open

910
01:05:34.159 --> 01:05:38.159
like open spots with a lot of trees forestry like hardwoods,

911
01:05:38.159 --> 01:05:43.480
and then it would get into like brushy type ticket

912
01:05:43.599 --> 01:05:50.519
areas and stuff like that. One time, I was just

913
01:05:50.679 --> 01:05:57.280
scouting around with my with my scope and I call

914
01:05:57.320 --> 01:06:00.679
it movement. So I panned back over to my other eyes,

915
01:06:00.760 --> 01:06:04.719
like hand back over to it, and it literally looked

916
01:06:04.719 --> 01:06:07.079
like there was a face looking at me now, like

917
01:06:07.360 --> 01:06:09.440
took my head away from the scutch and I'm like,

918
01:06:09.840 --> 01:06:12.719
the heck, like shook my head a little bit, probably

919
01:06:12.760 --> 01:06:14.840
I don't know, rub my eyes or something like that.

920
01:06:15.159 --> 01:06:19.280
Looked back through and I'm like, uh, well, I see

921
01:06:19.280 --> 01:06:25.360
a tree stump there. That was my reference before, but

922
01:06:25.400 --> 01:06:32.039
I don't see anything now. And then i'd start scanning

923
01:06:32.119 --> 01:06:36.079
around again. I call it movement again. I looked over

924
01:06:36.199 --> 01:06:38.119
and I kind of thought I saw a face again,

925
01:06:39.119 --> 01:06:45.840
that gray like leathery type face but in the in

926
01:06:45.880 --> 01:06:48.440
the brush, like just we're like peeking through like a

927
01:06:48.480 --> 01:06:52.960
hole in the brush like type of thing. Really really

928
01:06:53.000 --> 01:06:56.679
had me feeling weird, and I was like, okay, now,

929
01:06:56.840 --> 01:06:59.480
either my eyes were playing tricks on me because I

930
01:06:59.559 --> 01:07:03.719
didn't sit out here for a couple hours. Well, I'm

931
01:07:03.760 --> 01:07:07.519
actually seeing this. I think I'm actually seeing this because

932
01:07:07.559 --> 01:07:11.480
of everything else that has happened leading up to this

933
01:07:11.679 --> 01:07:17.360
point so far in my life, you know. And there

934
01:07:17.440 --> 01:07:20.639
was there was some other times where I had like

935
01:07:21.039 --> 01:07:24.800
some mineral tray salts I'd put by a stream, like

936
01:07:25.159 --> 01:07:29.239
on a board, by a root system, and I had

937
01:07:29.280 --> 01:07:35.599
seen big indentse in the spongy soil where you couldn't

938
01:07:35.599 --> 01:07:39.599
really like if I were to try and plaster cast something,

939
01:07:39.599 --> 01:07:42.719
it wouldn't come up as anything because of how spongy

940
01:07:42.840 --> 01:07:46.159
everything is. Like I said, a lot of that soil,

941
01:07:46.239 --> 01:07:53.519
it's not really dirt. It's just decompaged tree debris, you know,

942
01:07:54.039 --> 01:07:58.159
loose fallen needles or fallen off and stuff like that.

943
01:07:59.039 --> 01:08:05.000
But there would be times where stuff would get moved

944
01:08:05.679 --> 01:08:09.000
and then I wouldn't be able to find it, and

945
01:08:09.039 --> 01:08:12.639
then I'd come back and stuff would be back where

946
01:08:12.679 --> 01:08:17.760
it was. There'd be times where I had sat in

947
01:08:17.840 --> 01:08:21.119
places on a tree stump hunting, like while I was

948
01:08:21.199 --> 01:08:24.760
ground hunting walking around, and then i'd sit and take

949
01:08:24.800 --> 01:08:28.600
a rest for a little while, and then when I

950
01:08:28.640 --> 01:08:31.199
went back out again or just to go out scouting,

951
01:08:31.640 --> 01:08:34.159
there'd be like a rock sitting on that tree stump.

952
01:08:34.479 --> 01:08:37.680
I'm like, what the heck, I wasn't there when I

953
01:08:37.680 --> 01:08:40.960
sat there. I didn't put it there. That's going on here.

954
01:08:43.920 --> 01:08:45.960
How How big a rock would it be?

955
01:08:47.239 --> 01:08:50.439
I would say, like the size of like the rocks

956
01:08:50.439 --> 01:08:56.000
you would build a house with, Like yeah, yeah, like

957
01:08:56.000 --> 01:08:59.359
like some something somebody would put in their stone stone

958
01:08:59.399 --> 01:09:02.479
wall or or chimney or something like that, and it

959
01:09:02.520 --> 01:09:04.960
would be like it would still have like some masco

960
01:09:05.039 --> 01:09:07.439
on the one side of it or something, so it

961
01:09:07.479 --> 01:09:10.720
wasn't like it was completely cleaned off. But then there

962
01:09:10.760 --> 01:09:12.800
was other times where I would go out there and

963
01:09:13.119 --> 01:09:22.479
there'd be like, uh, stuff drug across areas where like

964
01:09:22.560 --> 01:09:25.640
it was trying to off the over the trails, like

965
01:09:25.680 --> 01:09:29.399
something was trying to funnel stuff, funnel these trails into

966
01:09:29.439 --> 01:09:34.560
one bottleneck type thing. And I was like, well, that's

967
01:09:34.560 --> 01:09:38.720
pretty odd too, Like nothing but a human or a

968
01:09:38.760 --> 01:09:43.960
sasquatch is going to do something like that. And there's

969
01:09:44.000 --> 01:09:48.880
nobody hunts up here besides me. And I had a

970
01:09:48.920 --> 01:09:52.439
neighbor his son in law would hunt, but he wasn't.

971
01:09:52.479 --> 01:09:55.279
He wouldn't like a traditional hunter. He went straight to

972
01:09:55.359 --> 01:09:58.640
his stand where his little ground blind pop up blind

973
01:09:58.760 --> 01:10:03.039
ground blind that he had near his stand area, But

974
01:10:03.119 --> 01:10:05.720
he didn't go out like normal times, Like I'd already

975
01:10:05.720 --> 01:10:08.039
be out there hunting for hours, and then here he

976
01:10:08.079 --> 01:10:11.800
would be, like eight thirty nine o'clock. Here he's bebopping

977
01:10:11.800 --> 01:10:16.680
through the woods louder than a bear, like stomping through

978
01:10:16.680 --> 01:10:19.079
the woods, break stepping on every stick he could find.

979
01:10:19.119 --> 01:10:21.479
It seemed like, I'm like, wall dude, what are you

980
01:10:21.560 --> 01:10:23.439
doing just coming out here and mess up my hunting?

981
01:10:25.279 --> 01:10:30.880
Why'd you even come out here, dude? But uh, Yeah,

982
01:10:30.960 --> 01:10:33.560
there'd be times where because he would be wearing a

983
01:10:33.600 --> 01:10:36.439
lot of orange instead of just like a traditional hat

984
01:10:36.600 --> 01:10:39.840
or something like that. But he would always stay close

985
01:10:39.880 --> 01:10:43.439
to the Uh. There'd be Route thirty that comes up

986
01:10:43.439 --> 01:10:48.119
through there. It's a it's a two lane highway that

987
01:10:48.239 --> 01:10:54.840
comes up through the mountain, PA Route thirty and that

988
01:10:54.920 --> 01:11:01.640
goes from close to us get It'll go from Gettysburg

989
01:11:01.680 --> 01:11:06.920
to Chambersburg and farther uh each direction, like you can

990
01:11:06.960 --> 01:11:08.760
go all the way to York with it. You can

991
01:11:08.800 --> 01:11:12.279
go which is the opposite way of Gettysburg. For through

992
01:11:12.319 --> 01:11:19.119
Gettysburg you can go all the way to heck, what's

993
01:11:19.159 --> 01:11:26.560
it called Collinsville or whatever. That's way past past Chambersburg

994
01:11:27.640 --> 01:11:35.159
into the other mountains and stuff. Oh but yeah, I'd

995
01:11:35.199 --> 01:11:39.199
see him sometimes he'd be ever twisting and stretching and stuff,

996
01:11:39.239 --> 01:11:43.119
and I'm like, out of his ground blind, What the

997
01:11:43.159 --> 01:11:47.039
heck is this? This guy much of a hunter? He

998
01:11:47.079 --> 01:11:49.079
didn't learn how to hunt like I did. You know

999
01:11:49.119 --> 01:11:51.640
that type of thing. You don't want to move when

1000
01:11:51.680 --> 01:11:54.880
you're hunting, unless you're ground hunting. Then you walk a

1001
01:11:54.960 --> 01:11:58.399
little bit, even it's your ground hunting, You walk a

1002
01:11:58.399 --> 01:12:02.560
few paces, like a few feet, like maybe ten twenty feet,

1003
01:12:02.600 --> 01:12:06.560
and you stop because you can. You can walk right

1004
01:12:06.600 --> 01:12:09.279
past the deer. If it's bedding down in some thick brush,

1005
01:12:09.520 --> 01:12:11.960
it'll let you walk past it. But when you stop,

1006
01:12:12.520 --> 01:12:14.920
the deer will get nervous and be like I'll shoot

1007
01:12:14.960 --> 01:12:18.119
it sees me, and he'll jump up and run. Like

1008
01:12:18.239 --> 01:12:20.960
if you just keep walking, even if you're doing a

1009
01:12:21.000 --> 01:12:24.600
slow pace, you could walk right past the deer and

1010
01:12:24.760 --> 01:12:28.279
you wouldn't even know it unless you've seen it wiggle

1011
01:12:28.279 --> 01:12:31.720
its white tail or something like that, or snorted or something.

1012
01:12:33.000 --> 01:12:35.359
Is that? Is that a guy you ever talked to?

1013
01:12:37.399 --> 01:12:39.960
Uh? He I did talk to him a couple of times.

1014
01:12:40.920 --> 01:12:45.680
He's kind of kind of an odd fellow. He was

1015
01:12:45.720 --> 01:12:50.640
a bigger fellow too. He did say he didn't mention

1016
01:12:50.800 --> 01:12:53.680
some things like I guess that. I guess he was

1017
01:12:53.800 --> 01:12:57.039
kind of scared because I asked. I was like, oh, yeah,

1018
01:12:57.079 --> 01:13:00.279
I've seen you had to stand here behind this in

1019
01:13:00.319 --> 01:13:02.840
law's house. He's like, well, I don't really use that

1020
01:13:02.880 --> 01:13:04.680
one too much. I'll use it every once in a while.

1021
01:13:04.680 --> 01:13:06.880
I put it out there more for him and my wife.

1022
01:13:07.239 --> 01:13:09.760
He's like, I go over that way, and he like

1023
01:13:09.840 --> 01:13:12.880
points out to where, like towards where I used to hunt,

1024
01:13:12.960 --> 01:13:17.399
but he would always stay close to the road. And

1025
01:13:17.479 --> 01:13:21.319
I'm like, well, you're not going to have that much

1026
01:13:21.359 --> 01:13:23.279
activity out by it that way. But he was like,

1027
01:13:24.840 --> 01:13:26.520
because I was like, what do you have much activity

1028
01:13:26.560 --> 01:13:31.560
out being that close to the road. He goes, yeah,

1029
01:13:31.560 --> 01:13:35.760
there's quite a bit of activity. He's like, but he

1030
01:13:35.800 --> 01:13:38.560
made a comment the one time, He's like, you don't

1031
01:13:38.560 --> 01:13:41.359
want to go too deep in there, you really don't.

1032
01:13:41.640 --> 01:13:43.359
And the way he said it and the way his

1033
01:13:43.439 --> 01:13:45.880
facial expression was while he was shaking his head and

1034
01:13:45.920 --> 01:13:48.840
looking at me, I'm like, all right, maybe this guy

1035
01:13:48.920 --> 01:13:51.720
saw something where maybe he saw a bear, you know,

1036
01:13:53.119 --> 01:13:56.680
maybe maybe he saw saw something happen out there or

1037
01:13:56.760 --> 01:14:02.319
whatever that spooked him to where he was staying close

1038
01:14:02.399 --> 01:14:04.279
to the road so he wouldn't get well. I thought

1039
01:14:04.279 --> 01:14:06.600
he just didn't want to get lost or something too,

1040
01:14:06.760 --> 01:14:11.279
you know. But yeah, the way he didn't say that,

1041
01:14:11.359 --> 01:14:13.720
now that I think about it, and you asked, uh,

1042
01:14:14.359 --> 01:14:16.399
he did say to take that comment, and the way

1043
01:14:16.439 --> 01:14:20.399
his facial expressions were, he may have. He may have

1044
01:14:20.640 --> 01:14:23.079
seen something but just didn't like relay it like that

1045
01:14:26.199 --> 01:14:28.720
or was trying to say something without saying something.

1046
01:14:28.960 --> 01:14:33.000
It sounds like he something something affected him for sure.

1047
01:14:33.119 --> 01:14:36.079
Have you ever talked to any of the neighbors around

1048
01:14:36.159 --> 01:14:36.680
your area?

1049
01:14:39.680 --> 01:14:46.439
Right across the road was a bar and restaurant, and yeah,

1050
01:14:46.640 --> 01:14:50.680
I would. I was kind of stand offish about talking

1051
01:14:50.720 --> 01:14:52.880
about it there for a while, but then you know,

1052
01:14:52.960 --> 01:14:55.319
after a while, you're like hanging around, like I would

1053
01:14:55.439 --> 01:14:58.319
work over there to cooking and stuff, and then like

1054
01:14:58.399 --> 01:15:01.000
I'd get off around ten and stuff like that. And

1055
01:15:02.119 --> 01:15:04.119
you know, there's a couple of people I was cool with,

1056
01:15:04.159 --> 01:15:07.920
mountain men type fellas and stuff like that. Yeah, they've

1057
01:15:07.920 --> 01:15:09.800
been there for a couple of hours, so I'm like, oh,

1058
01:15:09.840 --> 01:15:12.119
maybe I can ask them something here and there, You know,

1059
01:15:13.600 --> 01:15:16.359
get a real response out of them. But uh, there

1060
01:15:16.439 --> 01:15:18.319
was a couple of people they kind of just like

1061
01:15:19.279 --> 01:15:23.039
played it off, like, yeah, whatever, dude, doing nothing out there.

1062
01:15:23.159 --> 01:15:25.960
Big for society, will be right back after these messages.

1063
01:15:43.039 --> 01:15:45.960
I don't know what you're talking about. I've never seen anything.

1064
01:15:46.239 --> 01:15:48.359
But there was a there was like one or two

1065
01:15:48.520 --> 01:15:54.000
people that were like, uh, yeah, you always want to

1066
01:15:54.039 --> 01:15:56.720
let somebody know where you're going, you know, make sure

1067
01:15:56.760 --> 01:15:59.039
you got like a GPS or something on you or

1068
01:15:59.119 --> 01:16:03.079
your fan. And that was like all they would say.

1069
01:16:03.159 --> 01:16:12.800
They wouldn't they wouldn't like elaborate anymore. Yeah, that was

1070
01:16:12.840 --> 01:16:15.720
about the most I got out of anybody over there. Now.

1071
01:16:15.920 --> 01:16:21.199
I used to work in Chambersburg at a warehouse and

1072
01:16:22.439 --> 01:16:27.760
I would stop at the Rudders gas station that was

1073
01:16:27.800 --> 01:16:30.920
there at the nine ninety seven light. That was a

1074
01:16:30.960 --> 01:16:35.960
fairly new one they built. It was bigger than other ones.

1075
01:16:36.039 --> 01:16:38.199
At one point it actually had one of them automated

1076
01:16:38.239 --> 01:16:41.439
car washes. I think they got rid of lot. I'm

1077
01:16:41.159 --> 01:16:43.479
not quite sure. It's been a while since something up there.

1078
01:16:43.520 --> 01:16:48.680
I haven't lived up there in my five years, and

1079
01:16:48.760 --> 01:16:51.640
I ran it. I wasn't getting my coffee one morning

1080
01:16:52.640 --> 01:16:55.600
and there was a ranger, a couple of rangers in there,

1081
01:16:55.640 --> 01:16:58.000
and one ranger he was kind of younger or whatever,

1082
01:16:58.960 --> 01:17:02.640
and you nodded to him like hey, what's up. You know,

1083
01:17:02.800 --> 01:17:05.800
He's like, hey, how you going, And like, after about

1084
01:17:05.800 --> 01:17:08.399
like the third time seeing him, I was like, hey,

1085
01:17:09.520 --> 01:17:12.479
so where do you work? Yeah, and he told me

1086
01:17:12.479 --> 01:17:16.560
he was like right in between me and Caledonia at

1087
01:17:16.560 --> 01:17:20.720
that ranger outpost. And I was like, oh, okay. I

1088
01:17:20.760 --> 01:17:25.600
was like, yeah, I go through okay by there a lot.

1089
01:17:25.840 --> 01:17:29.239
I was like, you, guys, what do you do. He's like, well,

1090
01:17:29.279 --> 01:17:31.319
I usually go up and make sure all the service

1091
01:17:31.399 --> 01:17:34.720
roads are accessible and you know, there's no fallen trees

1092
01:17:34.800 --> 01:17:36.840
and stuff like that. Kind of like a lot of

1093
01:17:36.880 --> 01:17:42.319
maintenance type stuff. We go out and check things out

1094
01:17:45.239 --> 01:17:49.359
if we get reports of like animals and stuff like that.

1095
01:17:49.439 --> 01:17:52.319
And I'm like, oh yeah, and he was like yeah.

1096
01:17:53.479 --> 01:18:00.680
I was like, have you ever had any reports of bigfoot?

1097
01:18:02.439 --> 01:18:05.439
And he was like sterring his coffee as we're like talking,

1098
01:18:05.520 --> 01:18:08.800
like you're putting his stirring his cream and sugar in

1099
01:18:09.880 --> 01:18:11.920
and he kind of just like stopped stirring and like

1100
01:18:12.600 --> 01:18:14.680
fish eyed me, like looked out at the side of

1101
01:18:14.680 --> 01:18:18.840
his eye at me, and he was like, I don't know,

1102
01:18:19.079 --> 01:18:23.039
I don't really answer the phone as much. Uh, And

1103
01:18:23.000 --> 01:18:26.079
it kind of like just went about stirring his coffee slowly.

1104
01:18:27.520 --> 01:18:29.680
I was like, Oh, I'm okay, man. I was just wondering,

1105
01:18:29.920 --> 01:18:32.279
you never see anything strange up there, and while you're

1106
01:18:32.359 --> 01:18:36.960
up there in the mountains, He's like, oh, well, what

1107
01:18:37.119 --> 01:18:41.199
isn't strange? You know what I mean? I was like, oh, okay,

1108
01:18:41.800 --> 01:18:44.880
So I guess he's like, like you hear a lot

1109
01:18:44.920 --> 01:18:49.399
of accounts where like rangers will like see or hear

1110
01:18:49.520 --> 01:18:53.399
things or whatnot, but they don't really comment on it

1111
01:18:53.520 --> 01:18:56.560
until like years after they retired and stuff. I don't

1112
01:18:56.600 --> 01:18:59.840
know if it's like some kind of Vallas silence they

1113
01:19:00.119 --> 01:19:04.199
to take on that stuff or what kind.

1114
01:19:04.479 --> 01:19:06.840
I think there's an NDA involved, to be honest.

1115
01:19:08.079 --> 01:19:13.600
Yeah, yeah, something something which I could sense by the

1116
01:19:13.600 --> 01:19:18.760
way he reacted like he like he was like, dude,

1117
01:19:18.760 --> 01:19:20.760
you're gonna have You're gonna make me lie to you

1118
01:19:21.000 --> 01:19:27.319
like type of reaction like no, I never seen nothing

1119
01:19:27.319 --> 01:19:30.720
in my life. You know. It's type a little bit

1120
01:19:30.720 --> 01:19:33.119
of uh that that was a little Q and A

1121
01:19:33.239 --> 01:19:36.279
I got with him, and then you know, I kind

1122
01:19:36.279 --> 01:19:38.520
of just like didn't want it to be too awkward.

1123
01:19:38.560 --> 01:19:40.640
So I'm like, so what all kind of schoolings involved

1124
01:19:40.640 --> 01:19:44.359
to become to get into this kind of work and stuff?

1125
01:19:44.399 --> 01:19:47.479
Because I was actually interested in doing it, especially in

1126
01:19:47.479 --> 01:19:49.760
that area. After all of this, I was like, man,

1127
01:19:51.800 --> 01:19:54.560
I could I could do this every day, like just

1128
01:19:54.600 --> 01:19:58.800
go out and scout around and see what I can find,

1129
01:19:58.880 --> 01:20:03.119
you know, so see what's up. There's a lot of

1130
01:20:03.159 --> 01:20:07.000
gated access roads up there too that like, uh, there

1131
01:20:07.039 --> 01:20:09.640
was one right down from my house in between me

1132
01:20:09.760 --> 01:20:12.680
and Caledonia and the in between me and the ranger

1133
01:20:13.640 --> 01:20:18.159
uh post, and uh. They would only have it open

1134
01:20:18.279 --> 01:20:22.319
like certain months out of the year, but it would

1135
01:20:22.319 --> 01:20:29.359
take you It's called a piny Mountain Creek Road, and yeah,

1136
01:20:29.479 --> 01:20:31.720
it'd take you all the way out to like Shippensburg

1137
01:20:31.880 --> 01:20:36.840
Road on this like out out by the out by

1138
01:20:36.840 --> 01:20:39.239
the lakes and stuff out past the lakes and stuff.

1139
01:20:39.960 --> 01:20:43.159
But they would tie into a couple other like there

1140
01:20:43.239 --> 01:20:47.600
was like a like a gravelly dirt stone road type

1141
01:20:47.680 --> 01:20:51.520
thing and they would have throughout There was like a

1142
01:20:51.560 --> 01:20:55.039
certain time a year there was like an annual like

1143
01:20:55.520 --> 01:21:02.520
duaw uh metorcycle ride that they would do and they

1144
01:21:02.520 --> 01:21:05.640
would ride up thirty and go up up through that

1145
01:21:05.840 --> 01:21:10.319
gated road and go through some of the other connecting roads,

1146
01:21:10.359 --> 01:21:16.640
like a big, big syndicate type ride thing. That was

1147
01:21:17.720 --> 01:21:21.039
I never got into that. I've rode in motorcycles pretty

1148
01:21:21.079 --> 01:21:23.920
much all my life, too, more dirt bikes than now

1149
01:21:24.039 --> 01:21:27.000
I'm older, I've got more street bikes, Harley's and stuff.

1150
01:21:27.039 --> 01:21:31.079
But never I always wanted to. I've rode on that

1151
01:21:31.159 --> 01:21:34.640
road before, but not in that group or whatever. So

1152
01:21:34.680 --> 01:21:36.520
I used to ride up and there would be a big,

1153
01:21:38.920 --> 01:21:41.039
big you get up to the top at the one

1154
01:21:41.119 --> 01:21:44.239
spot where it levels off up the one of the

1155
01:21:44.319 --> 01:21:49.600
highest points a plateaus, and there's like big industrial high

1156
01:21:49.600 --> 01:21:53.279
attention power lines coming down through. And I used to

1157
01:21:53.319 --> 01:21:56.079
love going up there and sitting underneath there and looking

1158
01:21:56.199 --> 01:21:58.640
up through there and looking down at the bottom of

1159
01:21:58.640 --> 01:22:04.319
the mountain, down toward down towards Fayetteville, and just take

1160
01:22:04.359 --> 01:22:07.279
it in. Like like I said, I've always loved nature,

1161
01:22:07.439 --> 01:22:09.920
Like even if I wasn't hunting man, I'd love to

1162
01:22:09.960 --> 01:22:12.399
go up in the woods and just watch the ferns

1163
01:22:12.439 --> 01:22:15.199
wake up in the morning light because they curl up

1164
01:22:15.239 --> 01:22:18.520
and close up and stuff during the night. And then

1165
01:22:18.560 --> 01:22:20.479
you go up there and then the sun starts hitting

1166
01:22:20.479 --> 01:22:22.920
them and they start waking up and just opening up.

1167
01:22:22.960 --> 01:22:27.399
It's just something awesome to see. Like that's my thing.

1168
01:22:27.600 --> 01:22:33.600
I just love nature, always have ever since I had

1169
01:22:33.640 --> 01:22:39.720
my encounters and experiences. Is something I really really got into.

1170
01:22:42.560 --> 01:22:46.640
I did have another instance that happened while I was hunting.

1171
01:22:49.680 --> 01:22:53.039
A couple of times I would go up and I'd

1172
01:22:53.079 --> 01:22:55.760
be up in my tree stand, and it only happened

1173
01:22:55.760 --> 01:22:58.880
when I was in my tree stand. Never happened when

1174
01:22:58.880 --> 01:23:05.840
I was ground hunting. But I'd be up there and uh,

1175
01:23:06.199 --> 01:23:09.960
it sounded like I thought my kids, because my when

1176
01:23:09.960 --> 01:23:14.079
I was in my tree stand, my house was down

1177
01:23:14.119 --> 01:23:18.039
the slope to my in back of me, behind me,

1178
01:23:19.560 --> 01:23:24.760
and where my tree stand was was only about two

1179
01:23:24.880 --> 01:23:31.000
hundred yards up into the forest. So sound carries and

1180
01:23:31.079 --> 01:23:37.119
stuff up in the up and through there. Even with

1181
01:23:37.199 --> 01:23:40.640
the road with the road's not always real noisy, it's

1182
01:23:40.640 --> 01:23:43.359
only when it's high voland traffic. And I was a

1183
01:23:43.399 --> 01:23:45.600
little ways away from the road too, like you could

1184
01:23:45.640 --> 01:23:48.359
hear it, but not really. It wasn't like loud or

1185
01:23:48.399 --> 01:23:53.680
death and inconveniencing for hunting or nothing. I stayed farther

1186
01:23:53.760 --> 01:24:00.359
from the road than that neighbor guy did, and uh,

1187
01:24:00.880 --> 01:24:03.319
it sounded like my kids playing down in where the

1188
01:24:04.000 --> 01:24:06.479
clear the opening was to come into the woods, like

1189
01:24:06.520 --> 01:24:10.399
where I would put the corner and stuff. And then

1190
01:24:10.439 --> 01:24:14.119
I would go down after I was done hunting, and

1191
01:24:14.159 --> 01:24:18.359
it was weird because the forest would get really silent,

1192
01:24:19.920 --> 01:24:24.039
no squirrels moving, no birds flying, nothing, and it sounded

1193
01:24:24.079 --> 01:24:27.880
like my kids was down there playing and it would

1194
01:24:28.159 --> 01:24:31.720
last for about five ten minutes and I'd be like

1195
01:24:31.800 --> 01:24:33.800
looking seeing if I could see my kids down there,

1196
01:24:33.840 --> 01:24:36.039
seeing if they were coming up, to see if they

1197
01:24:36.039 --> 01:24:37.880
wanted to come up in the tree stand or something

1198
01:24:37.920 --> 01:24:42.720
like looking down. I didn't see no kids, but I

1199
01:24:42.760 --> 01:24:48.079
heard them. And then after a while you would hear

1200
01:24:48.159 --> 01:24:53.039
like heavy footsteps bipedal footsteps in the brush, but it

1201
01:24:53.119 --> 01:24:56.479
was always behind me or off to my side where

1202
01:24:57.760 --> 01:25:04.520
I couldn't see anything because thicker, and I'm like, I'd

1203
01:25:04.520 --> 01:25:07.640
go down after hunting and I'd be like, were the

1204
01:25:07.720 --> 01:25:13.960
kids out at all today? And we're doing now? I

1205
01:25:14.039 --> 01:25:16.880
let the dog out earlier, but and I let her

1206
01:25:16.920 --> 01:25:20.399
back in, but that was it. I like the kids

1207
01:25:20.399 --> 01:25:23.880
think of feed the chickens or nothing like that. Yeah,

1208
01:25:23.920 --> 01:25:27.520
they've been in here watching TV and playing the video games,

1209
01:25:27.560 --> 01:25:31.640
and I'm like, that's weird because there's no other kids

1210
01:25:31.680 --> 01:25:36.680
around me, and there's definitely no kids in between my

1211
01:25:36.760 --> 01:25:39.920
trees stand, like there's nothing in between the tree stand

1212
01:25:40.000 --> 01:25:46.159
in my house besides the forest. And I've heard now

1213
01:25:46.199 --> 01:25:50.119
that i've been watching these other like podcasts, yours and

1214
01:25:50.159 --> 01:25:56.359
some other people's podcasts, I've heard of that, like the

1215
01:25:56.479 --> 01:26:01.880
natives would even say about it, like, uh, you know,

1216
01:26:02.000 --> 01:26:04.520
if you hear children in the forest, don't go try

1217
01:26:04.560 --> 01:26:08.840
and find them. That's the that's the hairy man trying

1218
01:26:08.840 --> 01:26:14.000
to lure you in or whatever. But yeah, that happened

1219
01:26:14.039 --> 01:26:16.760
about four or five times while I was up in

1220
01:26:16.800 --> 01:26:19.880
that tree stand, not at the same time, but like

1221
01:26:20.039 --> 01:26:24.039
different instances. And it would always be like around noon

1222
01:26:24.520 --> 01:26:28.279
one one thirty, like in between noon and in between

1223
01:26:28.279 --> 01:26:30.680
eleven thirty and one thirty it would be when it

1224
01:26:30.720 --> 01:26:35.520
would happen. And this there would be like I said, no, nothing.

1225
01:26:36.279 --> 01:26:44.199
Then sometimes afterwards you would hear like a crow, an

1226
01:26:44.239 --> 01:26:48.119
actual crow, and you could see it flying, and then

1227
01:26:48.800 --> 01:26:50.399
all of a sudden it would sound like there was

1228
01:26:50.439 --> 01:26:56.600
like a murderer cruise flying, but it sounded a little off,

1229
01:26:56.840 --> 01:26:59.119
but it sounded like a murderer crouse. But you didn't

1230
01:26:59.159 --> 01:27:01.720
see a bunch your crows flying around. You'd see one

1231
01:27:01.800 --> 01:27:06.199
or two flying around, circling, just gliding stuff, you know,

1232
01:27:06.239 --> 01:27:09.680
catching the wind drifts and gliding and stuff, resting their wings.

1233
01:27:10.680 --> 01:27:15.039
And I'm like, what the heck, Like this is kind

1234
01:27:15.039 --> 01:27:21.800
of freaking now. I guess we could say saved the

1235
01:27:22.039 --> 01:27:27.800
best for the last. There was a time where I

1236
01:27:27.880 --> 01:27:31.880
was hunting and my boys built a ground blind and

1237
01:27:31.880 --> 01:27:34.680
there was like an old rotted tree stump. It looked

1238
01:27:34.680 --> 01:27:37.399
like somebody actually like cut this tree down but never

1239
01:27:37.479 --> 01:27:40.479
retrieved it, and it just lay there for a while.

1240
01:27:40.760 --> 01:27:44.640
But then other trees had fallen around it, and they

1241
01:27:44.720 --> 01:27:49.720
kind of like intersected at one point. But uh so

1242
01:27:49.960 --> 01:27:52.960
it was like half roddy with some moss on it,

1243
01:27:53.279 --> 01:27:55.760
on the tree and the stump, and then the other

1244
01:27:55.840 --> 01:28:00.119
trees were more fresh, and they kind of intersected and

1245
01:27:59.840 --> 01:28:02.840
went out like a like a if. It was like

1246
01:28:02.880 --> 01:28:06.000
a V with the mouth of the V at the

1247
01:28:06.039 --> 01:28:09.520
tree stump. So I was with my son and I'm like, hey,

1248
01:28:10.319 --> 01:28:13.720
here's a little little thing we're gonna do here. We're

1249
01:28:13.760 --> 01:28:17.079
gonna I'm gonna teach you something. You see this here

1250
01:28:17.239 --> 01:28:19.760
he's like yeah. I was like, we're gonna turn that

1251
01:28:19.800 --> 01:28:21.720
into a ground line. It's going to be like a

1252
01:28:21.760 --> 01:28:24.600
little cubby hole we can hide in and nothing will

1253
01:28:24.600 --> 01:28:27.520
see us, but we can see everything that comes comes

1254
01:28:27.520 --> 01:28:30.399
through down through these trails. It was near like an

1255
01:28:30.439 --> 01:28:35.319
intersection of these highway type trails, a lot of activity,

1256
01:28:36.199 --> 01:28:40.239
multiple trails, and uh, so we built it. We used

1257
01:28:40.239 --> 01:28:46.880
it for a while. I used it a lot. Actually

1258
01:28:46.920 --> 01:28:51.600
preferred there other than my tree stand because it was less,

1259
01:28:52.359 --> 01:28:58.399
less road noise, and also, uh it was more more

1260
01:28:58.720 --> 01:29:03.399
deeper in in the forest. It was kind of like

1261
01:29:03.439 --> 01:29:06.479
in between my tree standing fern patch too. I could

1262
01:29:06.479 --> 01:29:09.399
see that all that area. And I've had buck walk

1263
01:29:09.479 --> 01:29:12.039
past me and my buddy while we were squirrel hunting

1264
01:29:12.560 --> 01:29:14.600
right on a truck. We were sitting on one of

1265
01:29:14.600 --> 01:29:17.560
them logs at one point and then we just stopped

1266
01:29:17.560 --> 01:29:22.479
the sitting smoke and shotting. This buck come walking up

1267
01:29:22.479 --> 01:29:25.880
the trail sniffing for a doll. He was on the

1268
01:29:25.960 --> 01:29:29.279
door's trail it seemed, and we were squirrel hunting side

1269
01:29:29.359 --> 01:29:33.039
and shoot. I raised up like I was going to

1270
01:29:33.159 --> 01:29:36.680
and he was, are you going to do that? And

1271
01:29:36.720 --> 01:29:40.399
I'm like no, I was like because karma. Man, if

1272
01:29:40.479 --> 01:29:42.439
I were to shoot that buck might be the last

1273
01:29:42.439 --> 01:29:45.000
buck I ever shoot in my life. It was like,

1274
01:29:45.560 --> 01:29:47.720
I like the way you think, you know, and he

1275
01:29:47.800 --> 01:29:50.920
was he used to be a hunting guy out in Montana,

1276
01:29:51.760 --> 01:29:53.960
so he was kind of getting nervous, like, dude, I

1277
01:29:53.960 --> 01:29:55.560
don't want to see you. I don't want to witness

1278
01:29:55.640 --> 01:29:59.279
you and do something legal trade now type thing. But

1279
01:29:59.520 --> 01:30:07.680
U So I was sitting there one time and I'm

1280
01:30:08.159 --> 01:30:14.600
guessing now one two o'clock, I started hearing heavy footfall

1281
01:30:15.319 --> 01:30:23.279
from behind me where it's really thick at and it

1282
01:30:23.319 --> 01:30:27.640
was getting closer. Next thing, you know, I started smelling

1283
01:30:27.720 --> 01:30:36.119
the smell like a musky type like kind of like

1284
01:30:36.159 --> 01:30:44.760
a wet dog and skunk cabbage type smell. Oh. I'm

1285
01:30:44.840 --> 01:30:48.039
like that's that was the first thing that popped in

1286
01:30:48.079 --> 01:30:51.079
my mind. I'm like, skunk cabbage.

1287
01:30:51.239 --> 01:30:54.039
Big for society will be right back after these messages.

1288
01:31:10.039 --> 01:31:13.279
I don't have that growing around here that I've noticed,

1289
01:31:16.359 --> 01:31:19.079
but I'm like, well, there might be something back farther

1290
01:31:19.199 --> 01:31:25.199
in where there's more streams or you know, salgy areas

1291
01:31:25.279 --> 01:31:28.279
in the in the valleys parts in between the ridges.

1292
01:31:29.399 --> 01:31:33.119
So maybe this is the big buck coming up. Because

1293
01:31:33.119 --> 01:31:37.399
I've seen a big buck the year before and didn't

1294
01:31:37.399 --> 01:31:39.199
get a shot on that one, but I got one

1295
01:31:39.239 --> 01:31:42.920
that was coming in behind it. It was a little

1296
01:31:42.920 --> 01:31:44.680
bit smaller. It was like he was teaching that one

1297
01:31:44.760 --> 01:31:48.800
what to do. But every time that buck would stop,

1298
01:31:48.840 --> 01:31:50.960
he would stop behind a big tree. It couldn't get

1299
01:31:50.960 --> 01:31:52.760
a shot on him. Or I could see his his

1300
01:31:52.800 --> 01:31:55.800
antlers and his nose when you look around and stuff,

1301
01:31:55.800 --> 01:31:59.880
and his tail was back. Conscious and his tail. They

1302
01:32:00.119 --> 01:32:01.760
knew what he was doing. They don't get big by

1303
01:32:01.800 --> 01:32:04.840
being stupid, you know. I called him the granddaddy, but

1304
01:32:05.479 --> 01:32:08.159
I'm all right, maybe the granddaddy's killing up on me.

1305
01:32:10.039 --> 01:32:18.520
And then I noticed everything was silent. I don't like,

1306
01:32:19.399 --> 01:32:24.920
oh that's weird, Like I don't need human birds or nothing, okay.

1307
01:32:26.600 --> 01:32:30.800
And I had this real static feeling, like every hair

1308
01:32:30.920 --> 01:32:36.319
on my body was standing up. Static like static like

1309
01:32:36.439 --> 01:32:40.279
you rubbed the balloon and held it over you, but

1310
01:32:40.520 --> 01:32:44.760
like magnified times ten. It felt like even my toe

1311
01:32:44.800 --> 01:32:53.119
hairs were standing up. And I heard this big thud,

1312
01:32:54.279 --> 01:33:00.479
like like two steps stop steps right behind me. Now,

1313
01:33:00.560 --> 01:33:03.279
mind you, there's this tree stump about the size of

1314
01:33:03.319 --> 01:33:06.800
a dresser that I'm leaning up against with these tree

1315
01:33:06.840 --> 01:33:09.439
limbs over top of these lugs that I'm tucked in.

1316
01:33:10.399 --> 01:33:15.079
So I got my rifle up in my up in

1317
01:33:15.119 --> 01:33:18.359
my arm over my shoulder, but pointed down to the

1318
01:33:18.399 --> 01:33:21.920
ground so it doesn't make any glare or shine or anything,

1319
01:33:22.239 --> 01:33:25.279
hoping this buck would walk up in front of me

1320
01:33:26.000 --> 01:33:31.000
or beside me or something. And once I heard that,

1321
01:33:32.359 --> 01:33:37.479
I'm like, what the heck thinking to myself, and that's

1322
01:33:37.520 --> 01:33:45.479
when I had the mind speak happen. And I'm telling you,

1323
01:33:46.439 --> 01:33:49.399
I didn't really notice catch on to what it was.

1324
01:33:49.439 --> 01:33:53.600
At first. I thought I was just like ADHD and

1325
01:33:54.800 --> 01:33:58.640
thinking off to myself. But I'm like, then I realized,

1326
01:33:58.680 --> 01:34:01.279
I'm like, I'm hunting, and this is something walking up

1327
01:34:01.279 --> 01:34:05.279
to me, Like I wouldn't be doing that because it

1328
01:34:05.359 --> 01:34:08.239
was like I was asking myself questions and answering them,

1329
01:34:08.840 --> 01:34:16.239
but in my voice and in another voice, So then

1330
01:34:16.239 --> 01:34:21.560
it starts getting into what are you doing? But it

1331
01:34:21.640 --> 01:34:28.600
wasn't my voice asking the question, my voice answering, so

1332
01:34:28.760 --> 01:34:31.319
the voice I could kind of replicate it, but not

1333
01:34:31.800 --> 01:34:36.920
completely because it was weird, Like it was kind of

1334
01:34:36.960 --> 01:34:40.960
like if if somebody had like a like a like

1335
01:34:41.000 --> 01:34:46.119
a stiff jaw, but like a uh like a drawing

1336
01:34:46.199 --> 01:34:50.479
out high and low whiny voice at the same time.

1337
01:34:50.319 --> 01:34:58.760
Like, ahre it on now? Now I'm like hunting, wanting

1338
01:34:58.800 --> 01:35:02.840
had on that for or to feed my family.

1339
01:35:03.680 --> 01:35:13.159
Why, I'm like, that's going on here? So by this time,

1340
01:35:14.760 --> 01:35:18.199
I'm like kind of freaking out at the same time,

1341
01:35:20.479 --> 01:35:23.279
and I thought to myself, I'm like, should I be

1342
01:35:23.319 --> 01:35:26.399
that scared? And then it answered me and it's in

1343
01:35:26.479 --> 01:35:32.760
that voice, not really shot you. So at that time,

1344
01:35:32.800 --> 01:35:35.359
I'm putting my hand on my pistol that I got

1345
01:35:37.600 --> 01:35:42.359
in between like I I I have a crawls straw holster,

1346
01:35:44.199 --> 01:35:46.880
uh in the for in the front as I usually

1347
01:35:46.880 --> 01:35:49.600
I shoot a pistol with my left hand, so I

1348
01:35:49.600 --> 01:35:53.119
have a cross straw holster pistols on my right side,

1349
01:35:53.119 --> 01:35:56.119
but I had it slung across that way. It was

1350
01:35:56.159 --> 01:35:58.159
like kind of on my lap. I have my handle

1351
01:35:58.159 --> 01:36:00.479
on the handle of it in my I'm on the

1352
01:36:00.520 --> 01:36:05.680
trigger on the on the hammer. It's a revolver and uh,

1353
01:36:07.960 --> 01:36:16.000
here goes I'm like, uh, it's for protection. I hope

1354
01:36:16.000 --> 01:36:18.720
I don't have to protect myself, thinking like I'm not

1355
01:36:18.800 --> 01:36:23.920
speaking out loud, I'm thinking this, and it went on

1356
01:36:24.039 --> 01:36:29.079
and asked me a few other questions. It's hard to

1357
01:36:29.159 --> 01:36:32.079
remember some of it. Sometimes it comes back to me

1358
01:36:32.239 --> 01:36:35.680
like just spur out of the middle of nowhere, like

1359
01:36:36.239 --> 01:36:39.720
something will pop in my head like a like a

1360
01:36:39.800 --> 01:36:45.399
something triggers like a flashback or something. And uh. So

1361
01:36:45.439 --> 01:36:48.439
it asked me a couple of things, like what I

1362
01:36:48.479 --> 01:36:56.560
was doing, why was I there? Was I the one

1363
01:36:56.600 --> 01:37:02.920
cleaning leaving the food? And I asked it if it

1364
01:37:03.000 --> 01:37:07.680
had a family, and it said, yeah, I'm haunting too,

1365
01:37:09.279 --> 01:37:11.439
and I was like thinking to myself, I hope you're

1366
01:37:11.439 --> 01:37:15.680
not haunting me. And it even asked me and said

1367
01:37:16.359 --> 01:37:18.760
because I thought to myself, I said, were you the

1368
01:37:18.760 --> 01:37:26.159
one I seen before? And it said no, but he

1369
01:37:26.319 --> 01:37:33.600
was with them, and I'm like, what the heck? So

1370
01:37:33.720 --> 01:37:38.920
then I got into like asking it with my mind,

1371
01:37:41.640 --> 01:37:49.920
why well, why can't I see you? And it replied

1372
01:37:49.920 --> 01:37:56.039
that I could if it felt safe enough. And then

1373
01:37:56.079 --> 01:37:59.000
it asked me why I wanted to see it and

1374
01:37:59.039 --> 01:38:03.239
what my intention as well, and I said, I just

1375
01:38:03.319 --> 01:38:08.560
want to know if I'm going crazy, and it said no.

1376
01:38:09.479 --> 01:38:13.239
And then I said, I have no intention on harming

1377
01:38:13.279 --> 01:38:19.359
you or your or your family. I'm just here hunting

1378
01:38:19.359 --> 01:38:24.880
for my family like you do for yours. But I would.

1379
01:38:25.119 --> 01:38:29.199
And then I asked it if it would be upset

1380
01:38:30.560 --> 01:38:36.119
if I had, how do I how did I say

1381
01:38:36.159 --> 01:38:42.960
it if I were to expose it, like meaning like

1382
01:38:43.079 --> 01:38:46.640
if I were to like report it and like bring

1383
01:38:46.640 --> 01:38:55.600
people out there or whatever. And it replied, we sensed

1384
01:38:56.159 --> 01:39:00.000
your intention, but we can't sense others intentions and life.

1385
01:39:00.119 --> 01:39:08.920
They're here and if they were ill intentioned, they would

1386
01:39:09.000 --> 01:39:15.399
not respond or reveal or something like that. And then

1387
01:39:15.399 --> 01:39:18.000
I'm like, okay, well, I didn't mean to press. I

1388
01:39:18.159 --> 01:39:23.199
just and I didn't mean to intrude. I just from here,

1389
01:39:24.199 --> 01:39:29.479
feed my family like you. And all of a sudden,

1390
01:39:32.119 --> 01:39:35.079
it was like I said something wrong or something at

1391
01:39:35.079 --> 01:39:39.319
one point right when it stopped, and I heard this

1392
01:39:40.520 --> 01:39:43.840
like if some big guy, now think of the biggest

1393
01:39:43.920 --> 01:39:51.159
dude that with the deepest voice, like bigger and stronger

1394
01:39:51.199 --> 01:39:57.319
than Andre the giant, we're to make make a sound

1395
01:39:57.920 --> 01:40:05.920
like whoa. But it was so guttural and deep and

1396
01:40:05.960 --> 01:40:12.279
reverbricating all at the same time, like every cell in

1397
01:40:12.319 --> 01:40:19.760
my body was vibrating, like it felt like literally like

1398
01:40:20.760 --> 01:40:25.760
every cell in my body was vibrating like electric and

1399
01:40:26.760 --> 01:40:30.079
vibration all at the same time, to where I couldn't

1400
01:40:30.079 --> 01:40:35.880
even move and I and I couldn't move, Like I

1401
01:40:35.880 --> 01:40:38.279
wanted to turn around and look through the little peacle

1402
01:40:38.439 --> 01:40:41.800
behind me where I had a little view hole, but

1403
01:40:41.880 --> 01:40:44.800
I couldn't move. I couldn't even take my hand off,

1404
01:40:45.439 --> 01:40:47.680
like I couldn't if I wanted to. I don't even

1405
01:40:47.680 --> 01:40:50.079
think I could have cocked the hammerback on that pistol.

1406
01:40:50.640 --> 01:40:53.880
Like I could not move for literally like a minute

1407
01:40:53.880 --> 01:41:00.359
and a half maybe two minutes, and then it's like

1408
01:41:01.479 --> 01:41:03.840
my ears started, like I started hearing like a like

1409
01:41:03.880 --> 01:41:10.319
a humming crickets, humming crickets, uh as all these cells

1410
01:41:10.319 --> 01:41:12.920
are vibrating, and then it's like that's it was like

1411
01:41:13.000 --> 01:41:15.760
that was what it cut off. It cut off and

1412
01:41:15.840 --> 01:41:19.680
went away like that was its way of doing that.

1413
01:41:21.920 --> 01:41:27.239
So I after about a minute and a half two minutes,

1414
01:41:27.359 --> 01:41:30.880
I finally was able to like look around, and I

1415
01:41:31.079 --> 01:41:33.720
like I was like, what the heck was that real?

1416
01:41:33.800 --> 01:41:35.880
Did that just happen? Did I have a dream? Did

1417
01:41:35.880 --> 01:41:38.720
I fall asleep out here and have this as a dream?

1418
01:41:39.319 --> 01:41:43.720
Like what? What? What was this? What did did this

1419
01:41:43.840 --> 01:41:51.479
really just happen? So I looked around, couldn't see nothing.

1420
01:41:54.359 --> 01:41:57.119
I lean back and just kind of like took some

1421
01:41:57.159 --> 01:42:01.279
deep breaths, tried to control breathing in my heart rate

1422
01:42:01.279 --> 01:42:03.760
a little bit because it was speeding at this time,

1423
01:42:03.840 --> 01:42:12.920
and I was breathing pretty heavy. And finally I sat

1424
01:42:12.920 --> 01:42:16.079
there for about another like five ten minutes, got my bearings,

1425
01:42:16.479 --> 01:42:25.720
like got my composed myself, and all of a sudden,

1426
01:42:25.800 --> 01:42:28.000
I was like, you know, I don't think anything's going

1427
01:42:28.079 --> 01:42:31.239
to come through here now. I think it's time to

1428
01:42:31.279 --> 01:42:35.720
go home before I pissed somebody off, or do I

1429
01:42:35.840 --> 01:42:39.399
feel like then feel like I'm overstepped to boundary or something.

1430
01:42:40.279 --> 01:42:43.399
So I got up and crawled out of the I

1431
01:42:43.520 --> 01:42:48.840
crawled out of the little cubby blind thing. I looked around.

1432
01:42:49.399 --> 01:42:52.199
I even stood up, and I was like looking now,

1433
01:42:52.279 --> 01:42:57.439
you could see where there was like lee's leaves rustled

1434
01:42:57.520 --> 01:43:02.119
up as like something came in and left like turned

1435
01:43:02.119 --> 01:43:04.760
around and went back out, because you could see where

1436
01:43:04.800 --> 01:43:08.680
like leaves were standing up. This was during like the

1437
01:43:08.720 --> 01:43:13.399
fall time fall in the fall winter. You could see

1438
01:43:13.399 --> 01:43:16.960
where the leaves were like disturbed. They were, you know,

1439
01:43:17.119 --> 01:43:22.399
tuffed up from a disturbance of some sort, going right

1440
01:43:22.439 --> 01:43:26.479
into that thick spot which was just a little uphill

1441
01:43:26.960 --> 01:43:29.199
from where that tree got snapped that I knocked that

1442
01:43:29.319 --> 01:43:40.039
bark off of and I was like, okay, so that

1443
01:43:40.159 --> 01:43:45.199
was pretty wild. Then that was that?

1444
01:43:47.079 --> 01:43:50.840
Do you feel that the when it made the noise

1445
01:43:50.920 --> 01:43:53.680
at the end, Did you hear that inside your mind

1446
01:43:53.840 --> 01:43:55.760
or was that out in the Oh?

1447
01:43:55.920 --> 01:43:59.079
No, that was that was out. That was out right

1448
01:43:59.239 --> 01:44:04.600
in the open, like whoa yeah, like a roar in

1449
01:44:04.640 --> 01:44:07.600
a in a whoa all at the same time, Like

1450
01:44:07.680 --> 01:44:11.920
if a gorilla and a lion and the biggest dude

1451
01:44:11.960 --> 01:44:15.640
you ever met with the deepest voice made this sound

1452
01:44:15.760 --> 01:44:20.560
all at the same time, with there was something else

1453
01:44:20.640 --> 01:44:28.960
with a vibration in there. It was wild. It I literally,

1454
01:44:29.439 --> 01:44:32.159
like I said, I was paralyzed, Like it felt like

1455
01:44:32.319 --> 01:44:35.039
every cell in my body was vibrating. It felt like

1456
01:44:35.079 --> 01:44:42.000
my toenails were vibrating, like like just reverberated vibration, like

1457
01:44:42.000 --> 01:44:44.359
like like my every cell in my body was a

1458
01:44:44.399 --> 01:44:50.039
tuning fork vibrating is what it felt like. It was unreal,

1459
01:44:51.640 --> 01:44:56.640
completely unreal. I'm never never in my life, and I've

1460
01:44:56.680 --> 01:45:03.640
worked around loud noises then concerts right by the amplifiers,

1461
01:45:03.720 --> 01:45:08.600
like that's that doesn't even touch what I felt like.

1462
01:45:08.920 --> 01:45:11.319
You know, like if you're around heavy music or heavy

1463
01:45:11.359 --> 01:45:13.439
bass and stuff, you could feel bass in your chest

1464
01:45:13.520 --> 01:45:16.520
and stuff like that. This was completely on a whole

1465
01:45:16.560 --> 01:45:19.720
other level from that. That was that times a thousand,

1466
01:45:19.800 --> 01:45:23.199
where every cell in my body was vibrating, My hairs

1467
01:45:23.239 --> 01:45:26.760
on my arms and my every hair on my body

1468
01:45:26.840 --> 01:45:30.560
was standing up vibrating. It felt like too, like my

1469
01:45:30.720 --> 01:45:36.560
skin was vibrate like. It was wild. Yeah, that was

1470
01:45:37.640 --> 01:45:43.920
definitely something you can't ever forget something like that. And

1471
01:45:43.960 --> 01:45:47.399
I don't even think other than having another experience like that,

1472
01:45:47.760 --> 01:45:49.439
you could even replicate.

1473
01:45:48.960 --> 01:45:52.119
It big for society. Who will be right back after

1474
01:45:52.159 --> 01:46:14.920
these messages. Yeah, it almost sounds like you were involved

1475
01:46:14.960 --> 01:46:20.159
with almost like an infrasound experience. I mean just effect

1476
01:46:20.199 --> 01:46:25.039
you can't move and vibration and just very very interesting.

1477
01:46:26.720 --> 01:46:32.359
Yeah, it was. It was very wild, and I ended

1478
01:46:32.439 --> 01:46:39.920
up losing my chickens. I thought it was like a

1479
01:46:39.920 --> 01:46:45.760
family of foxes or coyates taking my chickens, because, like

1480
01:46:45.800 --> 01:46:47.560
I said, I used to let them free range, and

1481
01:46:47.560 --> 01:46:50.880
then it got to the point where they would just

1482
01:46:51.000 --> 01:46:53.600
let theirself back in and go up in their roost box,

1483
01:46:54.640 --> 01:46:59.960
and so I would working different shifts. I was doing

1484
01:47:00.039 --> 01:47:03.600
different shifts at the time, so it was harder to

1485
01:47:05.680 --> 01:47:11.479
I would open up the chicken pen. But others that

1486
01:47:11.520 --> 01:47:14.520
I live, like my family that I lived with, my girl,

1487
01:47:14.640 --> 01:47:19.279
my kids, they wouldn't always shut the thing. So then

1488
01:47:19.319 --> 01:47:21.560
I was like, well, you know, screw it. They just

1489
01:47:21.760 --> 01:47:25.000
come and go as they want. Now, you know, they're

1490
01:47:25.039 --> 01:47:28.039
still getting plenty of eggs and they haven't been harmed

1491
01:47:28.159 --> 01:47:31.399
or anything. Well, then they started and they didn't really

1492
01:47:31.439 --> 01:47:34.399
go into the woods. They would go maybe across the

1493
01:47:34.439 --> 01:47:38.359
little stream into a little bit and rough up some

1494
01:47:38.439 --> 01:47:41.800
pine needles and scratch around underneath the raspberry bushes and

1495
01:47:41.840 --> 01:47:45.319
stuff near at the edge. But they didn't really go

1496
01:47:45.439 --> 01:47:48.119
into the woods. But then it got to the point

1497
01:47:48.119 --> 01:47:52.920
where they were kind of like disappearing. And then I

1498
01:47:52.920 --> 01:47:56.239
would find like just like a bunch of feathers like something,

1499
01:47:56.359 --> 01:47:58.920
grab a hold of a chicken and just like scooped

1500
01:47:58.920 --> 01:48:01.000
it up by its neck and one little like them.

1501
01:48:01.560 --> 01:48:03.720
You ever see them things for like New Year's if

1502
01:48:03.760 --> 01:48:07.399
you hold the little peg stick and you like spin

1503
01:48:07.479 --> 01:48:10.800
it and it clicks and makes that noise with the

1504
01:48:11.000 --> 01:48:14.199
mechanism or whatever. It was like something like grabbed up

1505
01:48:14.199 --> 01:48:16.840
a chicken, buy its neck and one like that and

1506
01:48:17.399 --> 01:48:19.479
walked off with it. And they would just be like

1507
01:48:19.479 --> 01:48:26.600
a a debris field of plumage like a ten foot circle,

1508
01:48:27.439 --> 01:48:30.680
eight foot circle. I'm like, what the heck? Like, that's

1509
01:48:30.800 --> 01:48:34.479
a little big extreme for like a kyote or a fox.

1510
01:48:34.520 --> 01:48:38.720
And usually they they grab them and take off with them,

1511
01:48:38.760 --> 01:48:42.000
you know what I mean. Not they You might you

1512
01:48:42.079 --> 01:48:45.640
might find them a bunch of feathers, but not like

1513
01:48:46.039 --> 01:48:51.239
that wide of a debris field. So then I must

1514
01:48:51.239 --> 01:48:55.840
have startled one while it was grabbed in my chickens,

1515
01:48:56.880 --> 01:49:00.359
because it left the chicken there but its neck was broke,

1516
01:49:02.840 --> 01:49:05.600
but there wasn't no like bitemark because I was inspecting it.

1517
01:49:05.800 --> 01:49:09.560
So I'm checking it out. I'm the next broke like

1518
01:49:09.640 --> 01:49:15.079
the chicken, like the chicken stiff, But where the next broke?

1519
01:49:15.239 --> 01:49:18.960
You know, got this linking neck going on, So I'm like,

1520
01:49:19.039 --> 01:49:21.960
what the heck? There ain't even no bite marks or nothing.

1521
01:49:23.640 --> 01:49:26.880
So I'm looking at it. So I had this bright

1522
01:49:26.960 --> 01:49:30.359
idea of going over to the clearing area. I was like, well,

1523
01:49:31.960 --> 01:49:35.039
animals are used to me feeding over by this corn spot.

1524
01:49:35.079 --> 01:49:40.359
So I went over to that clearing area, and uh,

1525
01:49:40.720 --> 01:49:43.760
in between that and my fire pit there was like

1526
01:49:43.800 --> 01:49:47.479
a little thick brushy like spot. So I put up

1527
01:49:47.479 --> 01:49:49.920
a camp and chair like one of my umbrella chairs

1528
01:49:51.000 --> 01:49:54.199
and having a milk set up there. And I took

1529
01:49:54.520 --> 01:49:59.920
that chicken and I cut its cut its neck open

1530
01:50:01.000 --> 01:50:03.479
and down its breast a little bit so that way

1531
01:50:03.520 --> 01:50:06.880
it would let blood out, you know. And I hung

1532
01:50:06.920 --> 01:50:12.479
it up in a tree over in that opening in

1533
01:50:12.520 --> 01:50:22.520
the woods. So I sat there at dark and nothing

1534
01:50:22.600 --> 01:50:27.439
really happened. Nothing really happened. I started playing some game

1535
01:50:27.560 --> 01:50:32.760
calls like distress calls and some coyote calls and stuff

1536
01:50:32.800 --> 01:50:40.159
like that, and nothing really happened. And I was just

1537
01:50:40.239 --> 01:50:42.880
about to give up. Now I was out there for

1538
01:50:42.920 --> 01:50:46.239
like two hours. I was about to give up. I

1539
01:50:46.279 --> 01:50:49.600
had this light I made like I had a flashlight

1540
01:50:49.720 --> 01:50:52.119
that I put a red lens on so it wouldn't

1541
01:50:52.119 --> 01:50:57.399
cast a beam, but it was It would illuminate an

1542
01:50:57.439 --> 01:51:02.159
area probably about fifteen foot circle that it illuminated with

1543
01:51:02.560 --> 01:51:08.119
this hip by this chicken. Then I heard like this

1544
01:51:08.279 --> 01:51:14.800
heavy heavy footsteps, but off of the distance. Before I

1545
01:51:14.840 --> 01:51:17.359
heard the heavy footsteps, I heard like some stuff like

1546
01:51:18.000 --> 01:51:24.520
sound like branches breaking. I'm like, oh right, something's coming,

1547
01:51:25.800 --> 01:51:30.000
see what's happening here. But it wouldn't come into the light.

1548
01:51:30.920 --> 01:51:34.800
It would only stay on the outside of the light,

1549
01:51:37.640 --> 01:51:44.399
and it would come. It would where the downtree wog was,

1550
01:51:45.600 --> 01:51:47.920
and there was some brush that I had cleared out

1551
01:51:47.920 --> 01:51:50.520
of the clearing and piled up there a while back ago.

1552
01:51:51.640 --> 01:51:56.479
I came through there and came I'm going to say,

1553
01:51:56.479 --> 01:51:59.359
that's left of where I'm sitting there looking at this chicken,

1554
01:52:00.479 --> 01:52:04.880
and I'm looking up the hill. And it would go

1555
01:52:04.960 --> 01:52:08.880
from left to right right outside the edge of the light,

1556
01:52:10.039 --> 01:52:13.399
and you can see eye shine. Then you can see

1557
01:52:13.680 --> 01:52:20.239
two eye shines. And it was about shoulder height to

1558
01:52:20.359 --> 01:52:24.239
me if I was standing, so it was like something

1559
01:52:24.319 --> 01:52:28.760
was like creep walking, like knees bat like creep walking,

1560
01:52:30.079 --> 01:52:33.520
trying to like walk back and forth. But then it

1561
01:52:33.560 --> 01:52:37.720
became two of them. Now the eye shine, I've never

1562
01:52:37.760 --> 01:52:42.279
seen eye shine like this before. I've seen deer eye shine.

1563
01:52:42.560 --> 01:52:49.640
I've seen kyrite eyeshine. I've seen pretty much every animal

1564
01:52:49.760 --> 01:52:54.119
up there's eyeshine. The only one I haven't seen is

1565
01:52:54.119 --> 01:53:00.199
probably porcupine, but porcupines aren't that tall. This was like

1566
01:53:00.239 --> 01:53:07.800
a red amber colored eye shine, and it would just

1567
01:53:09.439 --> 01:53:13.640
go from the right, left to right, or right to left,

1568
01:53:15.000 --> 01:53:18.640
right to left, and then when the second one appeared.

1569
01:53:18.760 --> 01:53:21.520
The second one appeared on the left while the other

1570
01:53:21.600 --> 01:53:24.880
one was all the way on the right, and then

1571
01:53:25.319 --> 01:53:28.359
the one would go away, and the other one would

1572
01:53:28.359 --> 01:53:32.439
come back over this to the left and then stop

1573
01:53:32.600 --> 01:53:37.840
like halfway, and that one would disappear, and the one

1574
01:53:37.960 --> 01:53:41.159
on the far left would come back again, and then

1575
01:53:41.600 --> 01:53:45.319
the other one would come back and appear far right.

1576
01:53:46.600 --> 01:53:49.800
So then it was like one was like standing there

1577
01:53:49.880 --> 01:53:56.079
stationary and ducking away, as the other one was like

1578
01:53:57.880 --> 01:54:00.560
testing the waters, like seeing what was going to happen.

1579
01:54:02.279 --> 01:54:07.279
And I just thought to myself, I'm like, like hoping

1580
01:54:07.319 --> 01:54:09.600
maybe I could get that mind speak thing to happen

1581
01:54:09.640 --> 01:54:12.920
again or something, which I'm sure they can. They can censor,

1582
01:54:13.840 --> 01:54:18.039
after all that, they can definitely sense what's going on.

1583
01:54:18.600 --> 01:54:21.760
So I spoke in my head to myself, I'm like,

1584
01:54:22.920 --> 01:54:26.800
if you're the ones taking my chickens, might as well

1585
01:54:26.880 --> 01:54:29.399
just go ahead and take it. If it's you, I

1586
01:54:29.439 --> 01:54:35.039
won't shoot it, but if you don't show me, I'm

1587
01:54:35.079 --> 01:54:42.920
gonna shoot. So nothing, now mind speak happened again or

1588
01:54:42.960 --> 01:54:49.000
nothing like that. But all the crickets and stuff stopped

1589
01:54:49.079 --> 01:54:54.000
chirping out in the woods, all the insects and frogs,

1590
01:54:54.039 --> 01:55:04.000
all that stuff got quiet, and the eyes like double

1591
01:55:04.000 --> 01:55:11.399
blinked and went away, and then I heard heavy footsteps

1592
01:55:11.520 --> 01:55:17.119
going back up into the mountain. So I'm like, huh,

1593
01:55:18.159 --> 01:55:23.000
maybe that was their way of saying, hey, we we've

1594
01:55:23.000 --> 01:55:27.039
been doing it, but you're holding that gun, so we

1595
01:55:27.079 --> 01:55:31.279
don't trust you, trust you to hold that word or whatnot.

1596
01:55:32.359 --> 01:55:36.960
But yeah, I never I never had that mind speak

1597
01:55:37.039 --> 01:55:39.159
happened again at one time. It was the only time.

1598
01:55:39.199 --> 01:55:44.119
I mean, it was pretty well. And the weird thing

1599
01:55:44.199 --> 01:55:47.079
is is that chicken never disappeared. I left that chicken there.

1600
01:55:47.119 --> 01:55:52.720
Everything hung there forever a month. The flies wouldn't even

1601
01:55:52.760 --> 01:55:56.279
eat it or nothing. It was weird. I was like,

1602
01:55:56.399 --> 01:56:00.279
what the heck and I heard weird alcohols. It's like

1603
01:56:00.359 --> 01:56:03.319
because I used to hoot the owls in I've done

1604
01:56:03.319 --> 01:56:06.119
that ever since I was little, growing up on the farm.

1605
01:56:06.520 --> 01:56:08.159
I used to love doing it, Like we would. I

1606
01:56:08.159 --> 01:56:10.039
would show it to the boys. We'd have them fly

1607
01:56:10.239 --> 01:56:13.960
from the mountain into right above our campfire, and like

1608
01:56:14.319 --> 01:56:16.479
then it would realize it's us hooting, and then it

1609
01:56:16.560 --> 01:56:19.720
would get quiet and just watch us for a little long.

1610
01:56:20.640 --> 01:56:24.239
You see it float down across the road over into

1611
01:56:24.279 --> 01:56:28.520
the other other mountain ridge and stuff like other woodline

1612
01:56:28.520 --> 01:56:33.840
and stuff. But yeah, that was really weird about that chicken.

1613
01:56:34.359 --> 01:56:37.800
Nothing touched it. I ended up gotting getting fed up

1614
01:56:37.800 --> 01:56:40.399
with it, and I after about a month or so

1615
01:56:40.720 --> 01:56:43.920
and cut it down and dirt in the bonfire because

1616
01:56:43.960 --> 01:56:47.239
I'm like, well that was a waste, Like you killed

1617
01:56:47.239 --> 01:56:49.199
the thing. Now you don't even touch it. Nothing else

1618
01:56:49.199 --> 01:56:55.960
will touch it going on here but that There's a

1619
01:56:56.000 --> 01:57:02.159
few other little like things, like when I was hooting

1620
01:57:02.239 --> 01:57:05.640
owls and you know, you could tell there was an

1621
01:57:05.640 --> 01:57:11.399
owl hooting back, but then like off to an other

1622
01:57:11.479 --> 01:57:16.159
directions distance, something would try and mimic it but not

1623
01:57:16.319 --> 01:57:19.840
sound exactly like it. You to tell something was a

1624
01:57:19.840 --> 01:57:24.359
little off, like a little too deep, a little too fast,

1625
01:57:24.359 --> 01:57:31.239
out of rhythm. But yeah, that's pretty much what I've

1626
01:57:31.279 --> 01:57:35.079
had go on and what I've experienced and stuff. And

1627
01:57:35.119 --> 01:57:39.039
this is really like other than after I got warmed

1628
01:57:39.079 --> 01:57:42.319
up to my soon to be wife and stuff, this

1629
01:57:42.399 --> 01:57:51.680
is and you know, my my parents and maybe like

1630
01:57:51.840 --> 01:57:54.439
one or two other people. This is the first I

1631
01:57:54.560 --> 01:57:57.560
really like talked about it. It's actually the first I've

1632
01:57:57.560 --> 01:58:01.319
ever talked about it in depth and with everything all

1633
01:58:01.359 --> 01:58:04.920
at once, like because I say some stuff and people

1634
01:58:05.000 --> 01:58:08.039
kind of oh, yeah, whatever, you must have been drinking

1635
01:58:08.119 --> 01:58:10.479
or smoking that night or something like that. You know,

1636
01:58:10.640 --> 01:58:15.439
I'm like, no, for real, like this this stuffs for real?

1637
01:58:16.880 --> 01:58:20.239
What do I have the game by making this up?

1638
01:58:20.359 --> 01:58:24.840
You know what I mean exactly, And thank you for

1639
01:58:25.520 --> 01:58:32.079
trusting you know, this platform enough to share publishedly what

1640
01:58:32.119 --> 01:58:36.720
you've experienced over the years. You've had some really interesting

1641
01:58:36.960 --> 01:58:40.039
things have happened, some very intense things.

1642
01:58:41.680 --> 01:58:43.960
Yeah. Yeah, I actually planned to go out there. I

1643
01:58:44.000 --> 01:58:46.520
actually made it as part of our New Years resolution.

1644
01:58:46.760 --> 01:58:48.760
Like this year, I'm going to get back into going

1645
01:58:48.840 --> 01:58:53.119
up on that that up into the forest areas and

1646
01:58:54.479 --> 01:58:57.479
just going out and like doing a little bit of

1647
01:58:57.520 --> 01:59:00.479
camping and stuff overnight or on the weekend or something,

1648
01:59:00.600 --> 01:59:02.840
just to see what I can come up with or

1649
01:59:02.960 --> 01:59:06.439
see because I don't have like new high tech gadgetry

1650
01:59:06.680 --> 01:59:10.279
or anything like that. I'm a working man. He's got

1651
01:59:10.279 --> 01:59:13.760
a family that I've been paying for ever since I

1652
01:59:13.840 --> 01:59:18.760
was had my my oldest boy fifteen years ago. So

1653
01:59:20.000 --> 01:59:23.319
I got three kids now. So it's not like I

1654
01:59:23.359 --> 01:59:25.520
can go spend a couple of grand on a camera

1655
01:59:25.800 --> 01:59:30.399
or some fancy like recorder device or anything like that.

1656
01:59:30.600 --> 01:59:34.640
I I try to look for stuff at auctions and

1657
01:59:35.079 --> 01:59:38.039
yard sales and stuff, but half the time that stuff's

1658
01:59:38.039 --> 01:59:41.720
broken anyway, or somebody out bids you.

1659
01:59:44.439 --> 01:59:48.520
Well, Dusty, I would say, you know, definitely, if you

1660
01:59:48.840 --> 01:59:51.520
do end up going back out, and you know, if

1661
01:59:51.800 --> 01:59:55.960
things do continue to happen, definitely keep us in in

1662
01:59:56.039 --> 02:00:00.600
the loop with you know, any future things that happened

1663
02:00:00.840 --> 02:00:04.479
in your life as well. But thank you for sharing

1664
02:00:04.560 --> 02:00:08.960
tonight and for coming on the show. I'm sure there'll

1665
02:00:09.000 --> 02:00:13.640
be some people that will find some things they can

1666
02:00:14.079 --> 02:00:17.119
relate to that are from the area. Usually that's how

1667
02:00:17.159 --> 02:00:21.439
it works out, and we'll probably see some interesting offshoots

1668
02:00:21.760 --> 02:00:23.159
from this one as well.

1669
02:00:24.239 --> 02:00:26.640
That'd be great. That'd be great. Maybe somebody had some

1670
02:00:26.680 --> 02:00:32.159
similar instances or something. I'd love to hear those as well. Like,

1671
02:00:32.960 --> 02:00:35.479
I don't know, ever since the first time when I

1672
02:00:35.880 --> 02:00:40.800
that very first time, I've been like, I'm always believed

1673
02:00:40.840 --> 02:00:44.399
in it to begin with, but once I actually saw

1674
02:00:44.439 --> 02:00:49.359
something and I was like, like that first sighting that thing, Like,

1675
02:00:50.399 --> 02:00:53.359
if I were to describe it, what it looked like

1676
02:00:54.119 --> 02:00:58.399
that very first time. Have you ever seen the movie

1677
02:00:58.920 --> 02:01:01.039
Land of the Lost with Will Ferrell in it?

1678
02:01:01.800 --> 02:01:06.520
Yeah, I know what you're gonna say, Yeah.

1679
02:01:05.560 --> 02:01:08.840
Dude, it looked like a seven foot chaka Oh man,

1680
02:01:09.000 --> 02:01:13.560
that's like I I swear like I was like and

1681
02:01:13.640 --> 02:01:17.560
that image like when I saw it, that immediately snapped

1682
02:01:17.600 --> 02:01:24.159
into my mind. I was like, what, uh, that's awesome. Yeah,

1683
02:01:23.439 --> 02:01:29.960
it's weird, but there's definitely like families. They're definitely moving

1684
02:01:30.000 --> 02:01:35.560
around and like family type things. Just from the senses

1685
02:01:35.560 --> 02:01:38.560
that I got and from trying to track it down

1686
02:01:38.800 --> 02:01:42.159
that time and everything, I could definitely say they move

1687
02:01:42.239 --> 02:01:46.880
in families. They they live in families and migrate. I

1688
02:01:46.880 --> 02:01:51.600
don't know if they necessarily migrate in that area because

1689
02:01:51.680 --> 02:01:55.800
it's pretty plentiful even in the winter scenarios. But I've

1690
02:01:55.800 --> 02:01:58.600
heard about them migrating up and down the Appalachian Trail

1691
02:01:58.840 --> 02:02:02.279
and follow in the power line cut throughs and stuff

1692
02:02:02.359 --> 02:02:05.640
like that, and that's both of those are right and

1693
02:02:05.720 --> 02:02:12.119
that come right through that natural National forests. So if

1694
02:02:12.119 --> 02:02:15.000
they migrate, they migrate. If they just hang out there,

1695
02:02:15.960 --> 02:02:18.640
who knows, because there's so many outcroppings and stuff where

1696
02:02:18.640 --> 02:02:22.079
they could find shelter to get through the winner as well.

1697
02:02:22.199 --> 02:02:27.960
So yeah, I'd love to get out there and boots

1698
02:02:28.000 --> 02:02:28.800
on the ground again.

1699
02:02:29.800 --> 02:02:33.319
Well, Dusty, I have a feeling that you will soon enough,

1700
02:02:33.720 --> 02:02:36.439
but I just want to say thank you. For coming

1701
02:02:36.479 --> 02:02:42.800
on the show and definitely keep us informed with what

1702
02:02:42.880 --> 02:02:46.199
happens when you are able to get boots on the

1703
02:02:46.199 --> 02:02:46.760
ground again.

1704
02:02:48.319 --> 02:02:51.359
Definitely will do. Thank you, thank you for having me,

1705
02:02:51.479 --> 02:02:52.399
Thanks for listening.

1706
02:02:53.840 --> 02:02:55.560
I just want to take a few minutes to say

1707
02:02:55.600 --> 02:02:59.479
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02:03:27.159 --> 02:03:31.279
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Here's the list. The Subtle Lake area of Oregon, Rainbow Oregon,

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McKinsey Bridge area, Sweet Home, pretty much that entire area,

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02:03:46.600 --> 02:03:49.880
the north part if you get what I mean. I'll

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