I Saw Bigfoot During our Vision Quest at Mt. Shasta!

0:03 Welcome to the Bigfoot Society. In this episode, I talked to Luna about her Bigfoot experience in the Mount Shasta area of California. If you've experienced something similar to what she has, or have more information regarding Bigfoot or other cryptids in the same area, please reach out to me immediately after this episode. Remember your encounter could be the key to unlocking this mystery once and for all, so please don't hesitate to contact me at Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com. All right, big for Society. You got the privilege of talking to Luna. She contacted me regarding an interesting experience she had out there near Mount Shasta in California. How's it going today, Luna? Good? How are you doing? And thank you for having me on? Absolutely I'm doing good.

0:50 I'm glad to finally be able to talk to you. It's been a little bit of time getting this all together, but definitely going to be worth it to help get your story out. My listeners I think are really going to enjoy it. It's a fascinating story. But you know, I'm going to go ahead and give the floor right over to Luna and let you take it from here. All right, Well, My bigfoot story is an interesting one. I never really thought I would have run into Bigfoot or anything like that. Just to give a backstory, I started heading up to Mount Shasta. Well, I'm from Chico, California, so Mount Shasta is two hours away. That's where I was born and raised in chicos So hearing about bigfoot, well, that's a common thing in northern California. It's like a running joke when people go up to like Humboldt County, they have bigfoots up, like the statues and things like that. So it was already something common that I would hear about. But in twenty twelve, I started going up to Mount Shasta more and I would I started doing ceremony, was a k vision quest and sun dance, and we would talk about bigfoot. In the Karuk they call bigfoot makiata. And it's very common within our indigenous communities and culture

2:21 to talk about like bigfoot and little people and the fairies and things like that. It's not really something that we're like, oh like, it's just part of the culture. It's part of the medicine. And when I had my experience with bigfoot, it was my first time doing division quest. I was doing my first vision quest in the sweat lodge. And for those of you who don't know what a sweat lodge is, it's a ceremony where they do like three or four rounds depending on the tribe, and there is a lodge that is built and there's rounds of rocks that come in. But when I did my vision quest, there was no rocks. There's no fire. There was a fire going, but there was no rocks in there, so it wasn't gonna be hot. And I spent over a day or in the lodge, which is something I want to do. So I got out and the vision questers that were up on the hill. So when you vision quest, it's like normally four days no food or water and you go up on the hill. I was down in the lodge. I stayed in the area because I was still holding space for the questers that were up all in the hill.

3:38 This was over at Stuart Springs, which is in like outside of Weed, California. So it's like, I don't know, fifteen minutes outside of Mount Shafta where you have to go up a little bit in the hill area towards like the west of Weed, and so we were up there, the grounds were still open to people that were coming there. The springs was it's a hot spring, so people would come and have baths camp out there, so it's still open to everybody else. And that night we were out in our camping area where we were holding space, and we were eating and I remember hearing this really big crunch and I was like, what is that.

4:23 I was like, that does not sound like a deer. Because when you live out in the mountains, you get or you're out there a lot, you get used to the noises, but you start to also listen to the different noises that animals make. And I'm like, that is not a deer. So I heard the crunch and I look out in the wooded area probably i don't know, like less than the quarter maybe like fifty feet one hundred feet, and I see bigfoot walking and I was like, huh. I stopped and I was a little shocked because I was like, I don't know what I just saw. And I remember looking one of my friends and was like, I don't know what I just saw. I'm going to go to my tent. And also just for everyone to understand envision quest, there's no like drugs or anything like that use some people have that mistaken knowledge that happens, So that does not happen there. It is a dry ceremony, so when you go no food or water, it's no footer, it's nothing.

5:35 So that happened. And I go back to my tent that night and I go to bed the next night. I didn't say anything to anybody. The next night, I'm in my tent and I think this is probably day three of the questers being up on the hill, or night three of the Questers being up on the hill. I'm in my tent. I'm waiting for some one that I think was going to come and be at Vision Quest as well. I remember there was a camper that came in with their car and they come in and I just remember hearing a lot of noise. There was like all this walking in front of my tent, and I was like, why is this camper walking in front of my tent? So I opened my tent and I look, nobody's there. I see the camper like setting up, but they're not anywhere near me. I also see that there's another camper that has their trailer right next to the other camper that was setting up, so I'm looking around. I'm like, I don't know what that is. I close it. Hear the steps again, and I was like, this is so odd, so I opened it again. No one's there, I thought, well, because my friend was right in front of me in their tent, and then another one of the elders was in front of him, so I closed it again. I thought they were trying to play a joke on me or something. And it was a while later. I am just on

7:09 my I was just in the tent. I was getting a message from my friend, and I think I was listening to some music. I was in my tent and I look or I just look around for a moment, and then I hear this noise and I hear and I'm in my tent. I'm not seeing anything outside of it because it's closed up, and I stop. I'm like on my stomach, frozen, like I'm pretty sure I'm pale, freaking out. But I didn't even want to breathe because I thought it was a bear. So I wait, and I'm just like terrified. I'm hearing this noise and about I don't know, thirty seconds A minute later, it felt like ten minutes my friend that was in the other tent opens his tent and I can see him with the slash light. So I opened my tent right away and I was like, I think that's a bear and he's like, it's not a bear. There's nothing there. I'm like, I heard it, like I heard it next to the tent. I heard it breathing, like I it's something is there. And he was like, nothing is there. Just go back to the bed. I'm like, no, like, something is there. He's like, and he's with the splash light.

8:31 He's looking around. He's like, there's no way that bear can at least run that fast. And he's like, there's nothing there. He's like, I heard it, but there's nothing there. So I go back in my tent and I was like, no, I just had this odd feeling. I was like, whatever that is is coming back, and so I get my stuff because my car is like ten feet away. It's like right there, pretty close to my our camping spot. And this area is pretty open and like it's not like super wooded or anything like that's it. There's a lot of trees and things like that, but there's just to give context, there's like a little bridge there's like parking areas for people when they go down to the bath, so it still has an open area in the middle.

9:18 So I grab my stuff and I go by his tent. He's like making fun of me. He's like what, I'm like, you guys have fun. That thing is coming back, whatever that is coming back. And I get right to my car and I smell the most pungent, disgusting smell I've ever smelled in my life, like poop and wet dog, And at that moment, I was like, that's bigfoot. I get in my car and the rest of that night is history. It was like, I get in my car, I grab my drum. I'm a drummer. I do Native American singing and drumming, Indigenous singing and drumming, So I I grab my drum and I just was like, I do not know what I'm in for tonight, but we are in for something, and we were and about I don't know. Thirty minutes an hour later, I just start to see, like I start to hear things. I start to hear like slight banging, but it's not incredibly loud at first, And as the night goes on and it's like eleven o'clock midnight one am. It starts to get louder, and I hear my friend and the other elder talking to each other. But I see my friend with their flashlight and they're getting something out of their tent.

10:41 I'm like, cause I can see through my car window. I'm not talking to anyone. I'm just watching this happen. I'm like, there's no way I'm getting out of this car. And so I'm looking at my friend like frantically trying to get something. And so I hear him like tell like the elder, like I think it's the little people or like bigfoots behind the tree. I can see that I can see something or hear something, and he's like trying to get food, to offer them food, because we get taught that, like you give them an offering, and so he's throwing like I think apples are something out there, just so they have an offering and whatnot. So I think I fall asleep for about an hour, maybe hour and a half. I wake up again to the same thing. They're talking to each other, and he's like, I think the bigfoot is behind the tree, and I remember I start drumming, and I start singing, and it's pretty common for us to talk about Bigfoot coming to ceremony, and so I like hear him pin a panic. But then I look over and I see the elder's tent flipped over, and the elder is like, I think the female Bigfoot's putting and the little people are putting poop in my now, and I am just like, what is happening right now? And I'm looking at the tent completely flipped. I'm like, I do not know what happened.

12:09 And so they're talking to each other and he's like, I don't know. Do I give him an offering? Like what do we do? And so I hear that for a while. Then probably about a half hour later, an hour later, it starts to get really loud. The banging starts to get loud. It's like they're banging cars or they're grabbing rocks and throwing them. And I see the campers that are not with us. They have nothing to do with the ceremony, nothing to do with vision quest. I see them open their door and start to look for the flashlight, like their flashlight, and like they're flashing their light out there, and I'm like, this is not just us. Hearing this, and it progressively got louder and louder as the time went on. I just sat in my car and I did not know what to do because I was like, this is insane. I cracked the window a little bit I was hearing. I never heard any growls or anything, but it was like the constant beating of something. And so I there's a big fit song that we drum, and so I think I sang that. And it was probably like pretty close to the sun coming up, and I could start to hear the birds like chirping, but I was hearing the banging getting louder and louder. And then as the sun came up, and as I could start to see everything and the birds were getting louder,

13:45 I hear one final bang. It was like if they grabbed a boulder or something, just through it, and then it just stopped. About fifteen twenty minutes later, my friend comes out of their tent. The elder comes out of their tent, and I see them and I feel safe, and I was like something like what was that. They're like we were visited. I was like, do you think you think we were? And he can so we're talking about it. And he's like, go back to sleep, and I'm like, I can't. You can sleep after that? I cannot, And so they're like making fun of me. If you do ceremony, you get used to this kind of stuff happening. So I go down to the fire because when they're ceremony happening, there's always a fire. You're holding the space with fire, and they code down the elders down there, and I'm just like trying to get the story out, like my anxiety. I'm like freaking out, and he's just laughing and he's like so bigfooting for his woman, and I was like, this is not funny. And I ended up getting the name in my community big fits Girlfriend. And that was what happened in that occasion. But it has not been my only run in with Bigfoot, but that was probably the most prevalent one. It was like the first time I had that. But since then, Bigfoot has stuck around and

15:22 I've had experiences here and there. I also had an experience in Yosemite where I was with friends. We were at a back glacier point and we were in Yosemite for a few days, and when you go to glacier point at night. They have the guy that's he has like the laser and if you haven't been to Glacier Point, it's like where you can see half Dome and you can just see all of Yosemite. It's absolutely gorgeous. We went there during the day and someone was like, you guys, got to come back here at night so you can see the stars. And they give a presentation. So we did that. It's like almost over, and we decided to walk back to our cars pretty early, me and my friends, where everybody else in our group was still there. I think there was like ten of us or something, and so the three of us decided, let's go back to the car early and we can head back to the airbnb, or just wait for everybody to get to their car before everybody starts walking, because there's quite a bit of people. There's I think fifty people out there, and so a few people started got that idea and was also walking back to their car. And so we get back into the parking lot area. It's not that far of a walk down, and I just remember it got really quiet.

16:38 I could see my friend, I could see her sister, and we're walking down and I'm just like hearing this banging as we get closer to the bathroom areas and it got really early quiet, Like I was just like where did everybody go? Like I knew we weren't the only ones that walked down. And we get closer this bathroom and I'm just hearing this bang. Like there's the chains that are below that I think like block off some of the trees and things like that. It was like someone was grabbing the chains and messing with them. I was like, that's so annoying, Like who is doing that? Some kid? I don't know, Like they need to stop.

17:18 The adult in me was like irritated at that point. And so we're walking past the bathroom and I'm like, that must be someone by the bathroom. But I look into the bathroom and it's dark. No one's in there as we're walking by, and I'm like, that's really strange. And we passed that bathroom and we're almost to the car. The car was going to be to the left of us, and I remember hearing this deep growl. It was like and I was like, I look at my friend and I was like run we run to the car, and the three of us do we run to my car actually, and I'm just like, do not know what's happening. We get in my car and I would look at my friend and I was like, did you hear that? And she was like yes, and I'm like I and then I asked her sister. I'm like, did you hear that? And there she was like no, I just thought you guys running and I ran and so I was like, y'all, I think that's bigfoot. There's no way that's a bear. There's no way that's a mountain lion. Like I've been around those things. That's not that.

18:33 And so they had heard the banging too and things like that. They're like, we just thought someone was hitting something. And it's like I get We get in the car and I drive back like to the I drive to the part of the parking lot that happened because it was just right there. But I turned the car back that way and I just like offered it a song. But I was so terrified at that point, and so we end up going back. And to give context, my friends are not there. They don't do ceremony, they don't do any of that. So none of like they have never experienced what I do, and that they knew what I did and things like that. They knew that I was a healer, but they're not in that world like I am. So for them they had they were like, we don't know what's going on, and so I've explained to them that was probably back the one with vision Quest happened probably and like I think I was like thirty two thirty three, so that was probably like twenty fourteen around there, and then maybe twenty fifteen, and then the one in Yosemite I think was probably around twenty seventeen, and that was probably the last time that I had like a big encounter of Bixit like that. But I've had little stuff here and there that I'm like, but that hasn't been like those two. But those are my two really big encounters with them. Luna,

20:07 thank you for sharing something that came to mind while you were talking. I was like, man, it just brought it brought something to mind. There's an old bigfoot website called Bigfoot Encounters, and they have a section about Mount Shasta about different there's a lot of different Bigfoot interactions that have happened over the years around Mount Shasta. Oh yeah, I have a lot of friends that have a similar story. Oh, I'm sure one of the accounts is a let's see, I'm just going to read it real quick. Bigfoot came out of the forest, knocking off a branch at the nineteen foot level. This is by Bunny Flat's campground. Bigfoot gave them a crystal and went back into the woods. A medicine man named Charlie Tom said, if you're in trouble in the woods, to sing the Bigfoot song and Bigfoot would help you.

21:00 So Charlie Tom is actually what is the I never met him because when I started doing ceremony with Walking Eagle, like he had already passed, but he was like their intercessor before Walki Eagle took over. I believe, do you want me to sing the song? I can sing the song the song that I know. I was gonna get there and around about ways, but I didn't want to be like very offensive because it's a super cultural thing. I would imagine, but yeah, go right ahead. Before usually I asked spirit, I just always tell people like always like respect the medicine and things like that. I don't have my drum with me and I might not sing the song correctly because it's been a while, but I'll sing the verse that my elder taught me that I you know, Charlie Tom did teach him. So it was like yeah he yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah he yay o yeah yeah y and you would sing that four times. The elders also taught me like that, if you hit the tree three times in a row, you could be calling Bigfoot two. And that does happen in Mount Shasta.

22:21 There's so many stories. That's just my Bigfoot story. I could give you stories about a lot of things that have I've seen and I've experienced, but that area, there is so many stories of people running into big fit. Actually, that story that you said is the first time I've heard someone running into Bigxa on Mount Shasta. Because Bunny Flats is pretty up there, Bunny, have you been to Mount Shasta. I haven't had the privilege of actually going to a lot of areas out there. I'm in Central Iowa, so okay. So Bunny Flats is right before like right the high that you can go in the winter because they close or actually even in the spring about ten months of the year because they close the road right at Benny Flats.

23:07 It's where a lot of the skiers go, the skiers will stay the night there. So there's a lot of interesting experiences at Bunny Flats. Past Bunny Flats, the highest you can go is Panther Meadows, and a lot of Mount Shasta is care territory. So Charlie Tom and a lot of the elders that in the wind to it, I believe, and so you hear a lot of the stories from them. I can't remember though, if that vision quest was the vision quest that elder taught me the big Fit song, so as possible we called it, could have called it in that way. But there are stories. I have a friend that they flit like when in for another car driving out there. A lot of the locals we talk about it.

23:53 It's very much like almost like a part of just living there. Even like the ranchers just wow people that what you wouldn't think, like they don't really believe in this stuff. It's not anything that they're into, but they have the experience. And so within the community we talk about Bigfoot, the Lamerians, the little people, the fairies, like that's all very common. Yeah, it's all very common if you ever go to Mount Shasta, just it's just the stories like from the locals before I moved there, like it was just I would I went to the Motel six to get a room and the girl was like yeah, and the Limerians she was like talking about it like nothing, like they all talk about it like normal. Wow. Okay, listeners probably right now are like I'm going to reach through the phone and just take me out, Like you didn't even address what her story was.

24:45 Don't worry, guys were getting there. But so this the Bigfoot song that Charlie Tom had, is that that's the same song that you were singing in your cow. I I think so. One of the elders taught it to me. I'm not completely sure sure because everything gets passed down through storytelling. One of the elder that taught me he taught me while we were at ceremony. But it might be the same one, because I know someone else who thinks it. If not, it just really depends. But the medicine is there and they call them in that way, or you give the respect to Bigfoot in that way. Yeah, the song is beautiful. Does any of it translate to does it come across it all in English? Or is it a saying where we're just we're really not able to understand what's being said in the song. I remember him telling me, but I don't quite remember what the direct translation was in so long. Yeah, I remember the words.

25:52 I always remember the words to the songs. I don't always remember the translation, but I do remember someone else that was that. I'm still friends with a lot of them and do ceremony with them that told me that the song was I think maybe to the from the mother Bigfoot to the baby Bigfoot. I'm not positive though, because it's been a while, but for me when I sing the song as it was always just about like giving that respect. But I don't sing it often because I definitely don't want to be calling them, oh yeah, a thing I wanted to bring up or ask you.

26:33 Is it a thing where people would have to be careful actually playing that clip, like if they're out in the woods that it could actually do something or is like the recording wouldn't be as potent as like if it's an actual in real life ceremony. I think for me because I just am always in that space like I know what to be honest, I'm not positive because it's happened to me at random times and we've sang that song and not had an experience with Bigfoot. I just think it's bigfoot does what bigfoot does, So yeah, you could be opening that invitation, but you just never really know.

27:17 But if if someone's just listening to it because they want to see Bigfoot, most of the time that doesn't happen. I think it really has to be like you're in your heart and because Bigfoot can sense that, so it just really depends. I wasn't expecting that and it happened. So I think a lot of times it's like when we don't have the expectation. But I've also been told you can hit the trees three times with the branch and you're calling them in. I don't know. I've left like like pocados out for Bigfoot and things like that, but just to honor him, not because I want to like or them, not because I want to have that experience again, because it literally since then I do not camp. I literally don't go camp, and if I do, I sleep in my car. I will not sleep in a tent. It's not happening. It's interesting you brought up the knock or the three times, because that's the thing, like I've recorded wood knocks myself in Iowa in a weekend out in the woods, and like the wood knocks I recorded were sets of three, and that comes up in many different interviews that I've done over the years. It's just really it's an interesting little fact that I don't know. It's a thread that keeps running through it, and there's many different threads I feel like as well. But getting back to your first encounter that you had, you mentioned at the beginning, like you did actually see bigfoot the one time at the beginning. Yeah, thinking

28:52 back to that, are you able to describe, like in any way what you saw or if you remember certain characteristics about what you saw? Yeah, So what I think I saw was a female bigfoot, and I remember it like the way that it walked was like it like almost but like upright, and the hair was almost like this very pretty orangey brown. I do remember that and thinking that was interesting. But the shape of it just seemed like it was either like a junior bigfoot or like it was a female. And yeah, I will never forget that. I think that image will always be with me. That was the only time that I physically saw a bigfoot.

29:41 And then when and then I smelled them. Actually, no, I think I've smelled them like twice. So were you able to see anything of the face of the bigfoot at all during that time? So it was when it was walking, it was like I could see the side, so I saw more of the profile. I remember like it had a lot more hair, like around the hands, and the face looked more like man and ape mixed together, more like a smash nose, like like the crinkly skin around like the cheeks and the nose in that area. I do remember that, But it wasn't this super dark like hair that I think a lot of times people see or think of when they think of Vixit longer hair, shorter hair.

30:37 You remember anything about the length, So the body like shaggy, a little bit, a little bit matted in some areas. I would say probably about like three inches of hair, maybe four, but like around like the lower part of the arms is where I felt like it it was long hair and around like the feet area, lower legs. I would say more like that's more like four or five inches. Sure, did you get a feel for how tall it seemed to be? I would say, well over seven feet It was pretty tall. My ex was probably like six' four, so I would say was at least a foot taller than him. Wow. Yeah, you mentioned it was moving like an ape. Can you go into more detail about what that would mean to you about how something would move my arms?

31:45 Okay, the arm movement just like clunky and clumsy even with the legs, but upright, completely upright like a human would walk, but a little hunched, just a tad not like extreme, but like the arms seemed really dangly and lengthy. I do remember that. I'm like, that is so strange, and it was just like walking through in the woods and I just remember like just that big, clunky kind of walk, like long strides and what this long strides were like the arms going with it. But it wasn't like smooth. It was just like I don't know, not like a bounce, but and it looked balanced. But it was like the way that the arms moved. I remember. It was just that's what it reminded me of an ape a little bit. The jest is really interesting, especially with the color of the hair. That color comes out quite a bit. Sometimes It's like it's interesting when people that are not into Bigfoot, when I talk to them and They're like it looked like in a range and tan I'm like, oh, man, that is just it's weird how that comes out sometimes.

33:08 But you're for some reason, I feel like the bigfoots in that area are that color or that seems to be that I don't know, like and I've noticed when people talk about bigfoot like in different parts of the world, like there's like different like fur colors, or they'll be like a specific kind of like big foot that they see in like the West coast, and then maybe on the East Coast it's something else. Or I know people talk about the yetties and things like that, but that one seems to be more like the common I feel like in that area. Are there the bigfoot in the Mount Shasta area from what you've heard? Do they all have? How many toes do they have? Oh? I don't know. I just remember it being like a really big like I could see the foot that I didn't get a chance to really look at the toes, and I asked that. Sometimes every once in a while they'll be like, oh, it's so no four toed big foot in the area. It sounds like, which is a good thing that can get pretty I haven't heard. Yeah, I haven't heard them.

34:25 I think most of what I've I think a lot of times too, people are so shocked when that happens that they don't even have a chance to look at the feet or anything. Like I just remember I probably got like a good thirty seconds or something of like just staring, yeah, until I was like I and the next napped out of it, like I was like, I need to go back, Like it was pretty shocking, but I yeah, the growling part has definitely been interesting too. But like they a few people have talked about how like sometimes they'll stare that didn't happen to me.

35:06 I don't know what I would have done if that would have happened to me, to be honest. But yeah, feet wise, though, I do remember the feet were pretty big, gotcha. And the hands, Like the hands and the feet just seemed like you didn't fit with the link of the body, if that makes sense. How far I do you remember that? How far down did the hands Let's say you're looking at the side, you've got arms and hands at the end of them, how far did those go down on the side of the body, Like, how far hanging down were those I would say probably we think I would say, I feel like almost to the knee or around there. Okay, it's just I just remember it being really like dangly, but like I remember the hands being really big and really hairy, but so were the feet. So it sounds like it was a pretty non aggressive encounter, which is a great thing. That's how I took it from your story. I guess you would be the final say, since you were the one actually there, would you say when I saw it was not aggressive? Okay, yeah, the one, well, the one

36:37 I mean that the next night, I would say, definitely freaked me out. I don't know why they were throwing stuff, And I still ask myself to that day, like why what was the point of that? And then what was the point to graul? So I'm like I have always asked, I'm like, do they want something of me? I don't know. I don't have a question to that because it's just like it's been a few like interesting encounters, and I'm like, I don't have an answer. They've never done anything to me or to anyone that I know that is harmful. Just everyone is scared. Oh sure, yeah, you mentioned that You've also heard some things from friends acquaintances around the same area. Are there any come to mind that you'd be able to share Of other accounts that you've heard, The one that I can share would be that he was driving home I think from work. It was pretty late at night in Mount Shasta, and Bigfoot just went in front of the car and stopped and looked at him. But he's also another friend of mine that does ceremony and with the same well, his family is the one that does it. So I was like when he told me that story, he told me a few other ones, and so a lot of us within that community had our Bigfoot encounters. But even outside of it there's people too. Bigfoot is just really active in that area. I don't know if people can camp out in Stuart Springs anymore because they've since COVID

38:09 they closed down that the part of going, like the part of being able to take a bath in the spring area and stuff, or in the spring baths that they have, but they do have like camp They did have camping in Hotel. I just don't know if it's still opened. I think it might be. But the around there around Siski Lake, there is camping at Siski Lake and around the mountain areas where I feel like a lot more people have had experiences. So you in the town like area, I haven't heard too much, but when you start to get more on the outskirts of the town, so you have like the mountains that are like in the Sisky Lake is to the west, and then mount shapes more to like the east of town, and so that's a separate drive when you go up the mountain and you go to like sand flats and then funny flats and panther meadows. There's a whole other like out of stories people have like in that area too, is a lot, but it sounds like some of them don't really have the go ahead to share, which is totally understandable. Yeah, I would have to ask because some of them have to do with ceremony, and I'm like, I don't know if I have permission with those, that's why. But the one in front of the car, I'm sure it's fine. But I remember when he told me about that, Like actually there was somebody else though

39:43 I'm not like close friends with him. It was just I went to an event and he talked about Bigfoot and he said that he had an experience with Bigfoot and up in the mountain, I think, and Bigfoot was like behind the tree, or he saw Bigfoot behind the tree and like just like stared at him. I can't remember if it was like around the Bunny Flats area, because it was like probably it was quite probably like eight years ago when I heard this story at an event, but I know that he had that experience up there with them, probably multiple times. Well, for some reason, the people that I have heard that have had the run ins with Bigfoot tend to have multiple up there, Like it's not just a one time deal, like he comes back or they come back. I would say, see or she or they it happens again. That seems to be an occurring, a reoccurring thread as well. Do you have any thoughts as to some witnesses they do seem to have multiple interactions with Bigfoot. Do you think there might be a reason for that or My personal reason is I think that they're just people that Bigfoot is connected to or like they have that energy. That's what I take, because I've been asking myself that question for a really long time, because it's just they continue to do it. I haven't really been out

41:15 in the mountains too long. I did live in Mount when I lived in Dunsmere. When I lived in Mount Shasta, I never had a bigfoot run in. But before then I did a lot, and I just was always like why, And my other friends that had the same thing like, they didn't know either. My thought was always like, maybe, like we hold something that bigfoot respects. I don't know. I still to this day just continued to ask that question. But I went to Yosemite recently. I did not have an experience then because I wasn't able to go to Glacier Point or go to too many places because it was only for a day, for twenty four hours. I do remember hearing noises outside, but I don't know exactly what it was. Were in a cabin. But I just think that maybe the big fits like there's some people that they're attracted to for whatever reason.

42:09 That's really the only explanation I can think of at this point. There's going to be some people listening to this that have never heard of Mount Shasta before, and this is totally like they have no idea what Mount Shasta is. Have you ever experienced anything else out of the ordinary in the Mount shast area? How much time do you have. It's like loaded question, right, that is a loaded question. A lot. I've experienced a lot in my life. I was born with my abilities, so I have always had weird experiences since i was a little girl. But my experiences that I've had and I've had experiences where I've seen things, not just being up there, but my experiences that I've had a mount shast Like I physically had those experiences.

43:04 Like there was no if, ants or butts about it. I like, do you want me to pick one? Because I'm like, there's a lot. Yeah, I've pretty much for like seven years. Oh wow, okay, whatever you feel comfortable sharing. And I realized we don't have hours and hours, but like, if you feel comfortable sharing a few things, definitely, yeah, that'd be great. So I've had quite a few up in the Panther Meadows Bunny Flats area. I'm trying to think of one that I had an experience with the Man of the Mountains there is I had heard about the Man of the Mountain for a really long time. And when you so, Bunny Flats is only open three months out of the year. It is a very sacred areas where a lot of tribes would actually stay in the summer, so it's really protected. It's also protected because of the plants and the ecosystem up there. And in the winter, obviously you can't really go up there. You're at the top of the volcano, like there's tons of snow, it's not safe. But in the summertime you can go camp and all that fun stuff. So I think I had just moved, like permanently moved up there. And I want to say this was probably October twenty seven,

44:38 No, either twenty seventeen or twenty eighteen. It was either before I had moved to Dunsmuir or the year after. And so I went up and I remember it being like, I think a few days before Halloween, because they always close it around like the thirty first of November or being of October or first of no depending on whether. Sometimes it's earlier, sometimes it's a little later. So I remember going up there and I was like, I want to go on a hike. I never had an issue going up by myself because there's tons of people up there all the time, and so when you're up a panther meadows, you're up there with like one hundred people fifty people that are just up there and it's open, there's trails everywhere. Had gone the day before, and I went back up because I knew they were going to close it for the season. And so that used to be where the old ski bowl was, so it's called call a called Old Ski Bowl area, and that used to be where the ski park was. Now it's I think down the mountain more. I haven't actually been there because I'm not a skier or a snowboard sporder. So I remember going back and I was like, okay, like I want to try a different like trail area, and it's open, like there's not a lot of trees, because once you get closer to the top of the volcano area, the trees are different looking.

46:01 They're strange looking to me. And I was like, I don't remember that trail there yesterday. Let me go down it. So I go down and I think I had even done like a Facebook live or something, and I went out and drummed, and I had my drum with me, and I'm going down this trail and I stopped a bit and was doing my thing, and I was going back on the trail. I was like, I think I want to go up this week because I don't know if the water's over here. I was trying to look for the water that comes out of the top of the mountain. There's like a spout, and my friends had told me about it, but I could never find it. It was actually easier than what I thought, but that day I did not find it. So I'm going back down. It's like to the left and more into like where a lot of the more of the trees were at, and I see this old man with a cane and I remember I'm like, oh wow, like he does not care all right, cool, like good for him, like getting some work out. So I see him walking really slow, and I was like, let me walk this way. But then like I look back and I'm like, don't see him. And I'm like, how did he move that fast? And so I keep walking towards that way and I see him going like towards this other area and I'm like, this is so weird.

47:31 And so I don't know what in me thought it was like, yeah, let me follow this old man to this area. And I see him and I hear him banging his cane against like different parts like where he was walking, and I'm like, I think he wants me to follow him. So I go and I'm like, what's over here? And I'm walking and there's other people here and there, and I get to the part where it's a hilly area, but he's up the hill already. I'm like, what is happening here? And I start walking up and I had just had vertigo that year, and so I was taking it slow. And I get to the middle of it and just something and he was like, I don't know about this, Like I'm not I'm like, if he wants to take me in the mountain, I'm not quite ready for that. And he was walking up on the top and I stopped and I was like, I need to go back down. It was just a small kind of hill and I start going back down, but I feel like I got lost. I don't know why, Like there's no way to get lost. I just need to go back down. So I'm like trying to find my way down souse. It's not a a long walk. It's like twenty feet thirty feet back down,

49:06 and I see like this like a little like whend tornado does tornado happening at the bottom. And then I felt like I was like which we am I supposed to go. And so he's back down that hill and I was like, this is so weird, and so he starts hitting against rocks and things to help me down so I can find my way back down, and I did, and he goes ahead, and I'm going back out towards like the area where a lot more people are at and things like that, closer to the parking area and past the trees, so I can get into that area, and he's gone, like he's not there anymore. And I look around.

49:54 I'm like, there is no way this old man with a cane is gone. I look around, I'm looking, and I get past those trees and I'm looking again, and I'm getting closer towards the parking area, and like right before the parking area, it's all open. There's not a lot of trees out there. There's like little labyrinths that people make and things like that, and you'll find a lot of interesting stuff people leave hmm there. And I am just like still like trying to figure out what I just experienced. And so all of a sudden, I see someone working on the labyrinths. Then I go up and I'm like, this looks really nice. You're doing an amazing job. A person starts freaking out and starts like their face is covered. I can't see their face. They have like like a hat on, and I see that their whole face is covered with like a wrap or something like a scar. And all of a sudden, like they just panic and they were like damn. And I was like what. I just run towards my car. I was like, I don't know what's happening anymore, and all of a sudden, I run into this lady and I was like, I don't know what's happening. I was just like, this is so weird. I was like, I just came to find the water.

51:19 Oh, I did find the water that day. I was like, I just came to find the water that comes out of the mountain up here. Someone told me about it, and so she took me up, and I mixed me emotional. She took me up, we got some of the water, and we went back down, and actually like she gave me her number when I'd seen her in town a few times. But I don't think if it wasn't for her, I don't know what I would have done, because it brought me back. I felt like I went into another timeline or fear. I don't know what was happening, and I just like felt like I was a big back in my body. Once I could talk to her and she showed me where the water was and and whatnot. I will never forget that day either like it and I don't even have an explanation to what happened that day. I'm like I wonder, I'm like, were they trying to take me in the mountain? Like was he trying to show me? Because we've all talked about the Old Man of the Mountain not exactly what I thought was going to be. I've never seen him again, but that was a pretty impactful experience for me, just like Bigfoot. Yeah, so is that a legend that kind of goes around where other people have seen this Old Man of the Mountain in that area. Yeah, there's people that are like, yeah, I sat and talked with him. I was like, I didn't.

52:39 I did not. Yeah, so there's people that have said that they've gone in the mountain and I thought that could be what was happening, or maybe he wanted to talk to me, but I was like, I'm not ready for that experience in myself. I knew. I was like, I'm not emotionally ready for this. I'm not spiritually ready for this. What happens to Ie go in there and I can't come back out. No, I'm good, that's not happening here. I was not ready, and so I left, and I definitely there's times that I've wanted to go back up there by myself again, but I just know I'm like, if that happens again, I'm just going to freak out and then the way anyway, so I do go up there. I've been up there plenty of times. I think I went up there like a few times again by myself, but normally now I just go hiking with friends in that area. But yeah, there's a lot of stories that the people like having conversations with him and things like that.

53:36 I never saw his face. He was just he looked like an eighty year old man slowly walking. So I knew in my mind. I knew. I was like, this has to be him, because there's no way he can make it up that hill before I could. And in that like literally like almost felt like seconds. What if it. Yeah, if it's like J. C. Brown stuck in time trying to find the treasure of Mount Shasta. Still, I don't know. If you've read the stories of Jason oh Man, you've got to check it out. There. So a lot of people Mount Shasta known for Bigfoot. There's and then there's the whole Lumerian thing where people think there's a city that's underneath Mount Shasta of a different race of or sorry, how would you explain it? So the Lamarians, I know people that have said they've seen them. The Lamians are like to me, like when I've worked with that energy, they're just like beans that have the technology. Like they were supposedly here for a long time and whatever happened with the earth, they went in because that's how they protect themselves or whatnot. They're supposedly really tall and have like white robes and things like that.

54:59 Seems to be what a lot of people in town say. There's people that have lived in town for years decades, their family has and so they talk about how like these tall people would go into the stores and they would buy things with gold, and those are very common stories that a lot of people have in town from family and friends and their grandparents and things like that. So supposedly like they are just advanced beings who can't really be out in public anymore. That's what the main kind of story that I've heard from everybody. They always tell you that you're not supposed to go past the tree line, so like that's their area. You like respect their area. But funny thing is when I went to Panther Meadows this summer, I had taken a friend up there and we were looking up at the tree line and she was she saw something that looked like that, and then it like went away in an area that it would be impossible for someone to hike in. So they're there, they definitely will show themselves. I haven't heard of anyone recently see any in town. I think that it's been a long time since something like that has happened. But yeah, there are people that have talked about the city in the mountain, Pellows and whatnot that Plesley have seen it. There is someone that there are a few people that talk about the entrance. I've never seen it. I'm not too sure where it's at. But when I saw the Man of the Mountain, that's what I thought. He was maybe

56:30 trying to show me, but I was like, I backed out of that experience. So I was like, nothing, I'm good. Yeah. I've read a few books about the mountain area, and I think a common thread in the books is that a lot of people will they'll be missing or though something will happen when they get above the tree line. Is that something that you've heard as well. Yeah, I've heard a lot of those stories, which is why I respect it. I respect the power of the mountain. You're also on a volcano. You never know what didn't happen anyways, it's an active volcano. It hasn't erupted in one hundred years, but still it's still active. But I just my elders have always said you can go up there, for you are not to go past the tree line, and I respect that. There's a lot of hikers that go past up there and they don't go missing. They don't have those experiences. Another experience, so that I do want to add to this story because I feel like it's important because it keeps coming up and I'm gonna I'm like, okay, maybe I need to tell it. Is one night I was sleeping in bunny Flats and there's a lot of people out there sleeping. There's a lot of skiers and people that go snowboarding and things like sleep there. And I remember I was sleeping up there because I just wanted to sleep up in the mountain. It's a mountain. I'm like, it's so peaceful up there. So I was sleeping in my car, and that's a common thing for a lot of people to do when they go up and I knew I wasn't going to be alone.

58:02 So I'm in my car and I see this really bright blue light up on the like the mountain area of Bunny Flats. I'm like, that's really strange. Maybe that's a hiker up there. And about an hour later, I see another really huge blue light. And the rest of the night, I just kept seeing these huge blue lights the size of the house just show up on the mountain and I was like, and I kept looking at people outside that were coming back down from hiking, and it was really late. Some hikers stay up there pretty late. And I'm talking about this is the top of the mountain that you can see from the Bunny Flats area, and I was like, this is so strange. No one else is freaking out.

58:51 What am I seeing. I try to take a picture. It didn't come out in my picture. And the next day I back down, having I think lunch with a friend and I'm like, this happened to me. I'm like, is there like something up there where they have lights? And she was like no, She's like, but it does happen that people see that, And I was like what They were the brightest blue lights ever, like they look luminescent. And I was like, oh, okay, so that's not normal. And there's times that you go up there and you may have that experience too, So that was probably I don't care remember if that happened. That happened to me After the Man of the Mountain, I think that was probably like a year later. I think the thing with the mountain is it caused a lot of people and you just never know what your experience is going to be there. Like I felt my calling to the mountain, but I've always been like two hours away from her. I called her mama, seep the mountain, like, I have so much respect for that area.

59:52 It's so healing. I had only gone once when I was a kid to visit a family member that lived up there, or but when I started to go back in like twenty twelve, like on my own. I just felt that connection, and a lot of people that come to Mount Shasta talk about that. And there's a lot of people from Japan that come visit because there's a connection to Mount Fuji and for them, Mount Shasta is very sacred in Japan. They have so much respect for Mount Shasta. But there's so many stories. But I tell people, if you feel the call, go because it's one thing to read these stories, it's another thing to experience it in your life. Even if you don't have an extreme experience or things like I've had, being there is different. The energy you feel it like, it's just different. And so I sell people if you have a chance to go, just go and experience the mountains. Gorgeous for one, but you might have an experience you might not like. But a lot of people do.

1:00:59 I think. I think a lot of people come back for you. Yeah, if you start looking from out shafts the stories, you're going to find some amazing accounts. Do you think, is there any reason why in this one area you've got multiple big foot encounters, You've got the Lamerians, you've got Man of the Mountain, maybe little people, maybe fairies also, could there be any explanation about why is it all happening in this one area. I think that it has to do with the city. I think that whatever happened in the planet where a lot of these beans had to go hide, they just did. But a lot of the beans that are very healing, I don't get a lot of the stories. I know, like there's a lot of other stories in other parts of the world that are really scary, but the beans there are not really like that. They don't go out and scare people. They do, and they don't like in the sense of like it's scary to have that experience because you're not used to it. You're not it's not something that is comfortable or that you know of. It's not familiar, But I feel like it's there's a safe space. That's always the feeling that I've gotten from it. But obviously they can't really be around humans because that wouldn't be a normal thing. But all the experiences that I've had and all the experiences that I know people have had there has always been life changing

1:02:30 for them and healing for them, and so I feel like the interactions have their place. And that makes me emotional too, because it's such a beautiful area, but there are people that go missing, and I think that's probably for me the scarier part, which is why I stop going a lot of places by myself for that reason, and why I did not go and follow the man in the mountain wherever he wanted to take me, because I was like, I don't know if I'm coming back out. So I did notice when I moved up, they're like a couple of times a year there'd be like, this person's missing, this person's missing. And I want to say, most of those people, they have never found them. They have never found a body, They don't know where they went at all, and there's never an explanation why. It seems like it's such a such a paradox or you have such a beautiful area, all these incredible stories, but then on the other side, you do have definitely a sense of potential danger to it in a certain area. Do you have any advice for people that might want to go out and visit the Mount Shasta area but still be in a safe way. I would say one like, be mindful of the weather always and be respectful of mother nature to always. If you're going to go alone, you need to tell people like where you're going to be at. So if you have a tracker on your phone or something like give someone your tracking, Like I think that has to be like really important because there's people that have

1:04:00 gone walking in town and they can go missing. So I would also say if you can go with people, like don't go alone. And if you're going to go alone, like I know the areas that can go like by myself because it's packed with people, which is normally like old Ski Bowl area, Bunny Flats, things like that in the summer. Like if you're it's a destination spot of a lot of tourists, so you're not going to be alone in a lot of areas. But if it is an area that's pretty isolated, you need to tell people where you're at, and you need to be prepared with your whatever it is that you're using to go out hiking and if you run into those experience like for me, like when I had that experience with the Man of the Mountain, like I just trusted my gut and I was like, whatever this being wants to show me, I don't know if I don't know what's going to happen, and I don't want to put myself in that position. I think people sometimes get really curious, but they don't use their intuition and their better judgment. And in that moment, I was like, I don't think this is for me, so I'm going to go. I was like, and I think that's important. I think wherever you go, you need to use your intuition to say maybe this is not a good idea. Most importantly, like be careful. I agree with you.

1:05:25 I think one of the most important things we can do is if you do if you're a type of person where you feel like you have that intuition, listen to it and don't shut it down. It's trying to connect with you for a reason. Luna, your story is just incredible. It's beautiful. Thank you so much for sharing it. Is there a way that people can get in touch with you if they have anything to share or maybe I don't know some guests, they are like, hey, this is good enough if you want to share anything about if you're writing anything, or if you have anything like that, feel free to share it this time. I have my podcast, the Healen Adventures of Luna. I go into some of my stories about Mount Shasta too. In that one I actually had a friend talk about their story about Mount Shasta, and I think it's the one under Marita.

1:06:20 They had a pretty interesting story on that one, so I have that. You can find that on like Apple and Spotify. The Healen Adventures of Luna. You can find me on TikTok and Instagram under fairy Mona and I talk about stuff there. And then I am in the middle of working on Oracle Deck number two. Oracle Deck number one is on my website Ferimon dot Co. And I do have bigfoot in that deck, and that deck is a little bit about my experiences in Mount Shasta and that so people like Oracle decks. I have it there. I'll probably have a little bit more in Oracle Deck number two. I tend to share my experiences more that way.

1:07:01 Maybe one day I'll write a book. I don't know, because it's hard to pick out what I do want to share on that in one area. But for now, that's pretty much what I've got going on. And yeah, that's how I found you too on TikTok. Absolutely, your TikTok at cal is really cool. There's some fantastic stories you share on it, and I was like, I got to talk to this person somehow. But Luna, thank you so much for coming on. It's been a really enjoyable discussion. Yeah, thank you so much. Thank you for having me on and letting me share my story. Just wanted to take a few minutes to say thank you to you all my listeners for listening to the podcast. Please take a minute to help out the show by subscribing on YouTube, making sure you hit the bell so you don't miss any notifications, and share the episode on YouTube with a friend. Also, if you're listening to us on a podcast, thank you so much. Make sure that you're subscribed, share the show with a friend. Really, it's all about sharing the show wherever you can.

1:08:06 If you've had a bigfoot encounter related to the following, or know someone who has, please reach out to me at Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com or pass on my email. Here's a list. If you're a listener with bigfoot sightings or encounters that you know of in the Mount Shasta area like Luna had, and specifically in the Bunny Flats and Panther Meadows area, I would love to hear from you. Please. I'm asking you directly to reach out and to share anything Bigfoot related from this area. If you've got anything else you'd like to share from the Mount shast area, I'm not going to decline that either. A special thank you to all the Bigfoot Society, Patreon and YouTube channel members. It's your support that helps keep the show going and I extremely appreciate it