Dec. 28, 2024

I Screamed and It Stared! | Illinois

Join host Jeremiah Byron with the Bigfoot Society podcast as Brian shares his harrowing encounter with a white Bigfoot in Victoria, Illinois, during the 4th of July weekend in 1972. Brian, at 11 years old, witnessed a massive, cream-colored creature...

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Season 1

Join host Jeremiah Byron with the Bigfoot Society podcast as Brian shares his harrowing encounter with a white Bigfoot in Victoria, Illinois, during the 4th of July weekend in 1972. Brian, at 11 years old, witnessed a massive, cream-colored creature alongside friends. This episode delves deep into the specifics of the sighting, describes the creature's appearance and movements, and considers other reported sightings in the region during the same period.

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slash the Big for Society and now let's get on

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with the show. All right, Big for the Society. I've

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got the privilege of talking to Brian today. Brian's an

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individual that reached out to me about the experience he

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had happen in a small town in Illinois. We'll hear

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about that in a minute, but Brian, it's privileged to

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have you on the show today. How's it going.

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Yeah, thanks very much for thanks for having me.

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You had reached out through email after hearing one of

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the more recent Illinois episodes, and there's been quite a

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few interesting things that have been coming out of that

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state lately. On this podcast. There's more to come, but Brian,

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you know, let's get right into it. Feel free to

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share anything about the area that we're looking into today,

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the time when it happened, and I'll let you get

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right into it.

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Man. Yeah. So this happened in about nineteen seventy two,

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July fourth week in nineteen seventy four or it was

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in a small town called Victoria, Illinois, which is in

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kind of the northwestern part of Illinois. I think it's

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about forty miles north of Pori, Illinois. And in this

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area it was strip mines back in the seventies, sixties

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and fifties, so there's heavy mining for coal. There was

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strip mines, so at that time there was no regulation,

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so instead of reclaiming the ground, they would just pile

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the tailings of the diggings. When they got to coal out,

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they would just leave these huge piles of earth. And

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it was about in the nineteen sixties. My grandfather and

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a bunch of his friends a bought four hundred and

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some acres just a little bit south of the small

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town of Victoria, Illinois, which is probably less than two

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hundred people, and they built lakes out there. They were sportsmen,

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so they did fishing and hunting and we would go

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out there. I grew pretty much grew up there every

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weekend through my whole youth, and we would go out

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there and have a big you know, Fourth of July weekend.

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And this event occurred in nineteen seventy two. On that weekend,

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it's actually my birthday. So we would go there and

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this you know, would be celebration. Well because of the

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fact that there was these hills. You know, being a

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kid ten years old at the time or eleven years

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old at the time, I mean this was just I

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mean Disneyland for me. We would go out there and

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hike in these hills and they would be and swamps

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and lakes and we'd fish and hike and everything else.

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So you know, this is something that we did probably

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since I was six or seven years old. Well, in

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this particular weekend, you know, I was eleven years old,

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nineteen seventy two. Two good friends of mine and my

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cousin we do what we did every weekend as we

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went hiking, and there was one particular hill that we

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called Highest Peak, and it was probably one of the

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highest tailings of the remnants of the strip mining, and

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it was real steep on one edge, and we'd climb

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this thing and we'd get up on top and you

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could see for miles. You could see the remaining of

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the strip mines, which at that time, because they were

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relatively knew, we didn't have a lot of trees growing

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on them, so they were pretty barren, but it good cover,

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and then you could see the flat farm grounds are

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surrounding the area. And so on this particular day, we'd

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always race to the top of that hill, and on

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this particular day I made it up there first, and

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the shortly right behind me was a friend of mine, Greg,

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he was coming up, and another friend Russell, and my

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cousin Paul were on their way up. And I was

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standing on top of this hill like I always always did,

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looking around, and you know, just looking at the scenery

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and the hills and everything. What caught my attention just

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a little bit off to my side and down a

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little bit there was another tailing, and there happened to

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be a cow standing on the top of this And

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what got my attention so much is that cow was

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bellowing like I've never heard of cow. You hear a move,

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but this is This wasn't your typical mooing of a cow.

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This was a bellowing. So I was looking at this

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cow down there and it was just making all this

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racket and you know, didn't know what it was. The

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other my other friends were coming up and just about

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that time I was looking at this cow and out

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from the other side of the hill that it was

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on comes walking this huge creature. And at this time

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we didn't know what bigfoot was. There was no Internet.

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There was you know, a couple of TV stations and

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that was it. So this thing comes walking on. It's

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on two legs and it was, you know, striking just

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like a man. But this thing was about twice the

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size of that cow, which is cow's probably forty forty

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eight inches tall, so you figure things about you know,

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eight to nine feet tall. And it was white. It

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was cream color, kind of the color of a sheep,

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you know, just kind of that white, dirty, dirty looking color.

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And when I saw this thing, it was walking diagonally

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away from me at an angle, and I screamed to

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my friends and my cousin to look at this thing.

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Well as soon as I screamed, this thing immediately stopped

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and it turned around and it looked right at me.

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I mean, we were, like to I looking at the thing.

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He's about one hundred yards away, or it was about

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one hundred yards away. And when it turned when he

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was walking, it kind of had a flexed forward position.

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But when he stopped and turned and rotated full front view,

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looking directly at me and I. At that time, I

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was screaming at my friends. I was panicked. I didn't

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know what this thing was. And as I was screaming

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and my friends were getting up there with me, it

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would lean its head to the left and lead its

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head to the right as it was looking at me.

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And my friend Greg finally got up there with me,

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he saw too, and so this thing just stood there

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for you know, it seemed like an eternity to me,

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but it was probably only a few seconds, maybe five seconds,

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ten seconds, and then it turned around and walked directly

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the same way that it came. And by the time

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my friend Russ and my cousin Paul got up there,

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it was already gone. So, you know, we're trying to

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explain to him what this was, and all we could

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say it was this monster, and you know, it was

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kind of hard to explain to him, but we were scared.

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I mean I was I was eleven, my friend Greg

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I think was sixteen maybe or yeah, probably fifteen or sixteen,

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and I mean we got out of there as fast

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as we could. We got back to the area where

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we called the cabins, where they had the cabins built

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with our parentss were there. We told them, we told

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them what we saw. We saw this big white monster.

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And of course, you know at that time, they have

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you know, teenage kids and you know, eleven year old

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and my friend Russ was a couple of years younger

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than me. You know, yeah, of course we saw a big, white,

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hairy monster, and you know, nobody would believe it's nobody

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wanted to look, you know, they were busy doing things.

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And so I mean that weekend was quite an adventure.

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So after it was over, you know, holiday was over,

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we came back and life got on. But I mean,

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when you have an experience like this, it's not something

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that you just just move on with. And about two

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weeks later, my friends, their mother was an insurance salesman.

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They had an insurance agency and we were over her

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office and she goes, hey, boys, I got something you

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might be interested in the scene. So the paper at

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that time, it was called The Grit Grit. It's an

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old paper in the sixties and seventies, and gosh, so

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many people got it. And she pulled out an article

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that said that the Illinois State Police report seeing this

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white man like monster and it was described in this

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article exactly of what we described to them. So, you know,

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at that time they said, well, maybe you guys did

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see something. So you know, as time goes on over

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the years, you know, and you know that kind of

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when you have an event like that happened. You know,

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we never went hiking anymore in those hills. And it

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was a couple of years ago that I just happened

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to be googling something because when somebody experiences something like this.

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Now I'm sixty, you know, I'm going to be sixty

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four next year, you know, so it's it's been a

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long time, you know, more than you know, fifty years almost,

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But I think about it a lot. And now with

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the you know, YouTube and I listened to your interviews

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and these things about sasquatching Bigfoot, you know, it just

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fascinates me because I have the privilege to see a

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creature like this, and so I was just googling things,

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and I found out that at the same time nineteen

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seventy two, in Peoria, which was about forty forty five

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miles south of US, they were also seeing and describing

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the same type of creature, very large, white haired. And

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when you look at that area, the strip mining there,

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it was Peabody Cold Company, Mecho mines. They had the

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huge shovels that were just dig up the earth. There's

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a diesel electric shovels. These things could move or you

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could drive your cars to cars in a bucket. And

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this area was all strip mines, just about all the

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way down to Peoria. So you know, I'm thinking to myself,

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you know, this creature was probably just living in that

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area because it's so and back then, you know, seventy two,

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you know, nobody had any interest of you know, buying

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strip mine land for any purpose. Now it's kind of

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a hot item, but you know, this thing was was

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obviously living in there. Then I did some research and

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in southern Illinois they described also a creature like this,

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and they described the same color. It was cream white color,

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and you know, so it had been the same one

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that was traveling from northern Illinois, probably along the river,

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the Illinois River, probably north up to Wisconsin and Minnesota

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and Canada. So you know, whatever this was, you know,

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it makes me realize that, you know, I wasn't the

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only one seeing it. But because of the fact that

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we were just a short distance away from you know,

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the city of Peoria. I lived about forty miles to

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the north of Victoria. We didn't hear anything about that.

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There was no TV stations, there was no internet. You know,

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nobody got the newspaper them down there. That was too

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far and you know, so there wasn't that communication with us.

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But you know, it just amazed me because you know,

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like we were talking about, you know that Illinois has

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quite a bit of these sightings, and you would never

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think that because you think of Illinois as Chicago and

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then farm ground. But evidently it's a corridor or something

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from the south and north. So I think the frequency

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of these things, you know, probably a little bit more

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than we realized.

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Exactly. And to kind of jump in there, I mean,

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you've definitely you've done some awesome research. I do want

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to point out something on top of that, some listeners

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might have already made the connection. But you know, if

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you look into Murphysboro, which is southern Illinois, in nineteen

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seventy three, the big Muddy Monster, which is a famous

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case that also loud are tall, loud, white haired creature,

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and that's that's one of the most famous cases to

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come out of Illinois during the seventies, may have been

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the same exact thing that you saw just a year later.

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Yeah, actually, yeah, you know, you know and see at

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the time. And because the fact that you know, back

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then we didn't have the media and the communications. I

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don't know if I ever saw the Patterson film of

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what Patterson and Gamblin, I think was filmed in California.

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But this thing and the thing that I saw walked

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exactly the thing. You know, there was no difference other

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than it was black. And you know, all I thought,

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you know, for years and years out there, why did

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I see a white one? Nobody's seen a white one.

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And until we got that article that my friend's mom

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gave us that they're white, there are white ones evidently

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at least one.

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Yes, absolutely, and not just in Illinois. This is kind

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of a side trail for a second or two. But

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you know, the white variants have been seen down in Alabama.

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It's been called the Alabama white thang down there. There's

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a few, at least one that was seen in the

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northeast Pennsylvania area around Scranton, Pocono's, Carbondale, that sort of area.

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But your sighting is is such an interesting one. It's

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very cool when you get that face to face sighting.

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It had to be incredible. Over the years, do you

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thinking back on what you saw that day, have you

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ever seen a representation in media or drawing or anything

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that comes close to what you saw in the face

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of that creature?

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Well, you know what I see now with the you know,

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computer enhanced images of the Patterson one, it looks very

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similar other than white, except the face of ours that

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we saw had it was like weather beaten pink face,

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you know it was it was looking right at me.

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It's it's the face itself, you know, Opposed to an

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ape where you have a protruded mouth and nose. Was

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this was less protruded, almost like a human face, but

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probably a little bit more extended out with the mouth

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and the nose. But it was not an ape face.

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It didn't have the conical head and no neck because

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when it turned and looked at us, you know, it

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leaned its head back and forth, you know, to me. So, yeah,

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when I looked at that image of the magnified computer

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enhanced image of the Patterson one, Yeah, it looked very

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similar the hair on this thing, you know. And I

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hear stories of people saying it's shaggy hair, real long hair.

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This was not real long hair. It was it was hair,

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but it was not like shaggy long hair. But this thing,

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you know, it was a sunny day July fourth, and

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one hundred yards away, and I mean it just stopped

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there probably five to ten seconds maybe at the most,

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and just look directly right at me, you know. Telling

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the story, I'm sixty four almost. I get goosebumps on

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my arms. You know. I tell to my kids and

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you know, their friends and grandkids or whatever, and you know,

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it's like, I get goosebumps every time I tell this story.

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It's affected me that much.

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It's absolutely incredible. Did have any emotion on its face

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when you were able to look at it for that

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few seconds?

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Nope, it just it was kind of a just a

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non expressionist face just stared at me.

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Yeah, were there any visible ears at all?

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I could not see any, No, gotcha.

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You mentioned that it wasn't long and shaggy hair, But

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did you get a feel for maybe what lengths of

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hair it did have on it, and what was the

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length of hair different in certain areas of it.

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You know, I don't really recall now, I know that

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it wasn't well, I wouldn't say it was longer than

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four inches or five inches long because the arms were

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kind of out to its side, so I didn't see

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like the hair hanging. You know, it was pretty much,

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you know, close to its body. So I would probably

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say probably no more than four inches if I recall, right.

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Were you able to see the eyes at all?

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The eyes looked dark. That's the only thing I could see.

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And I don't know if that were shadows or not.

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But you know, I could definitely see the eyes because

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they you know, and at that time, you know it,

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I could tell it was looking directly at me, and

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I was looking directly at it. So and you know

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it's you know, with the one that they showed on

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the Patterson film, you know that was obvious female. This

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did not have any press. It was most likely a

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male because it just had a big chest on it.

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M Did you see any whites to the eyes at all?

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No? I could not could not see that.

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Okay, did you have visible eyebrows?

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You know, I wouldn't be I couldn't tell. The whole

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area of the face was you know that kind of

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rough looking pink? Gotcha?

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Gotcha? How would you describe the nose that it had?

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Yeah? You know when it when it turned and looked

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at me, it was you know, it wasn't like a

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pointed nose as I could see. It was more of

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a flat nose. And then when it was walking, it

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didn't have that protruded jaw and the machillary bone above

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the jaw. It wasn't sticking out like an ape.

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Okay did it have did it have a hooded nose

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like humans would have or kind of more of like

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a gorilla nose?

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It was more of a gorilla nose, yeah.

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Okay, Okay. There's a section under the nose that goes

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down to just above the upper lip called the filtrum.

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Do you remember anything about the how long or large

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that area was?

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Okay, I wouldn't be able to. Yeah, have seen that.

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And do you remember anything about how the mouth looked,

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how big it was, if you were able to see

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any teeth at all.

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No, it didn't show any teeth. Yeah, I would have

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I would have probably pretty much tidming if that showed

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any kind of teeth.

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Was there a smell at all when it was around.

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No, we couldn't smell anything. You know, there was no sound,

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no smell. He just walked out, turned around when I screamed,

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looked at me, and then walked back the same way

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he came.

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Any interaction between it and the cow besides the cow

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making a ton of noise.

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No, you know, And and that's why you know, the

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cow was you know, just bellowing on top of that

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smaller hill. And you know, I don't know if if

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it had a calf. There was no calf with the cow,

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and you know, this thing wasn't carrying anything. And I

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would I would have seen if there was like any

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blood on him. It would have been obvious for that.

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So and then when he turned around and walked back,

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you know, the cow kept bellowing, but the cow didn't move.

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Kyl did not move it all off that off that

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little hill.

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No clothes on it at all. Just hair.

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Nope, nope, yep, just hair.

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It sounds like you were able to see it walk

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for a little bit. Did it have anything peculiar about

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the way it walked or its gate at all?

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You know, when it was you know, biped walking like

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a man. Arms were swinging and it kind of like

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when a person walks, they're pretty much erect. And he

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was flexed forward, and he was, you know, looking straight

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ahead as you walk in And when I screamed and

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he stopped, then he stood straight up. So he was

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flexed forward when he was walking forward, but then when

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he stopped and he turned, and then he stood straight

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up when he looked at me.

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For listeners that might not be familiar with that term,

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can you describe what you mean by when you say

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flex forward?

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Oh, I'm sorry, okay. So when he was walking forward,

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his upper body was leaned a little bit.

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Forward, kind of like if you're walking into like a

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strong wind like that sort of thing.

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Yeah, you're stooped forward, Yeah, you're stoop forward a little bit.

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Yeah, very very interesting. You did mention that you saw

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it turn its.

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Head, right, yeah, so when he well, when he turned

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and looked at me, you know, he didn't turn his

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head and looked at me. He turned his whole body

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and looked at me. And then when he was looking

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at me and I was still screaming, he leaned his

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head to the left and to the right back forth.

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You know, it's kind of like a dog when you're

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making noise, you know, they kind of tilt their head

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back and forth. That's how I would describe it. He

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kind of leaned his head one way and then leaned

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his head the other way, almost like you know, wondering

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what the heck tie was?

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Were you able to see anything about its hands at all?

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No, I couldn't really see the hands other than you know,

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his legs or his arms were longer than the human's arms,

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you know, because most people a little bit you know,

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below their waistline, and this was down towards you know,

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midway between his probably hip and his knee. You know,

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it was they were longer than like a normal human.

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When it was walking. What would you say, the approximate

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length between steps it was able to make.

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Was gosh, you know, you know, I'm figuring he's probably

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eight feet tall, just because he's about twice the size

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of the cow's size and thinking back, you know, just

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remembering to hear how he walked out. He had a

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good stride on it because where he walked it did

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not take very long to get where he was at.

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So you know, just I mean it's hard to say,

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but probably five five at least five ft stride.

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Okay, how much would you estimate the weight of the

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creature may have been?

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Well, you know, I'm a bear hunter, so I've shot

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some pretty good sized bear. So looking at you know,

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remembering back what he looked like, in the size of the

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bear that's standing in my leving room, I would say

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he was probably close to eight eight eight hundred to

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one thousand pounds.

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Okay, that's a big guy.

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Yeah, he's a big guy.

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So remembering, try to remember the size of the head,

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and is there an item in your home that comes

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close to the size of the head of the bigfoot?

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You know, if you look, I would say probably it's

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close to a five gallon bucket, the width of a

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five bound bucket, because you know, if I you know,

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I'm looking back here or thinking back, you know, the

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size of him to that cow, and he was very

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broad shouldered. I mean, he was really wide shoulder, and

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I would probably say it's probably a five gallon bucket.

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You mentioned the broad shoulders. How far across would you

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estimate that the shoulders were.

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I would probably say, you know, just you know, thinking

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back and then again back to the reference in the cow,

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I'd probably say they're three foot at least or more. Yeah,

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easily three foot.

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Was it making any type of sound at all? Even

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a small grunt or the smallest thing?

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You know, I could not hear anything, and you know,

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I don't recall you sound at all. First, I was

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screaming so low that I probably wouldn't have heard one.

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That's true. You've got the screaming and probably some so.

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I mean, I can't imagine experience something that as a

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little kid. I mean, I can't imagine experiencing that now.

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But even as a little kid, I mean, the trauma

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must be just intense, you know, you know.

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You know, I see, you know, I hear these stories

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of people seeing it, and I think, unless you see

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something like this, I mean, it is traumatic. I guess

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it kind of changes your personality because you get phixiated.

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You don't fixiate it on this. I mean, here, I

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am sixty four, I've told this story constantly my whole

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entire life, and you do you get obsessed with it almost.

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I remember when you know, you know, getting back and

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learning about this. I did anything and everything I could

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to learn everything I could about this thing that they

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call Bigfoot, and then sasas watch and you know, I

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try to get as much information as I could about

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it because it just really affected my life like that,

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all through high school, all through college, all through my

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entire life, you know, even now sixty four.

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So that's that's extremely unique because a lot of times

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I'll hear from stories like this is like the person

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will not talk about it, and then they'll talk about

459
00:27:24.440 --> 00:27:28.519
it thirty years later. You're saying the whole time, you've

460
00:27:28.519 --> 00:27:30.720
been talking about what you saw that day.

461
00:27:31.039 --> 00:27:33.359
Yeah. I don't talk to you know, strangers off the

462
00:27:33.359 --> 00:27:35.519
street or you know, on my profession or you know,

463
00:27:35.640 --> 00:27:38.200
my colleagues or anything like that. But if something you

464
00:27:38.319 --> 00:27:41.119
mentioned something like that and I kind of fill them

465
00:27:41.119 --> 00:27:42.519
out a little bit, it's like, well, what do you

466
00:27:42.519 --> 00:27:45.440
think about that? Do you think it's real? And then

467
00:27:45.440 --> 00:27:47.279
if you know, I can tell them I'm not going

468
00:27:47.319 --> 00:27:50.039
to got some kind of netcase. Yeah, I share my

469
00:27:50.079 --> 00:27:53.359
story and you know, probably the ones that I repeated

470
00:27:53.440 --> 00:27:55.640
it so much as you know, nieces and nephews and

471
00:27:56.039 --> 00:27:58.640
you know, close friends and stuff like that, and you know,

472
00:27:58.920 --> 00:28:01.480
but you know, every peded the story so much that

473
00:28:01.799 --> 00:28:05.039
I really it sticks so clearly in your mind when

474
00:28:05.039 --> 00:28:06.119
you see something like that.

475
00:28:09.079 --> 00:28:12.960
How would you categorize what you saw that day in

476
00:28:13.079 --> 00:28:17.640
the aspect of was it more ape like or human

477
00:28:17.839 --> 00:28:19.839
like or something completely different?

478
00:28:21.039 --> 00:28:23.480
No, it was more well, I would say it was

479
00:28:23.519 --> 00:28:27.759
more human like than ape. But you know, it's its

480
00:28:27.799 --> 00:28:31.240
body structure and habitats and the size of it. It

481
00:28:31.319 --> 00:28:34.160
was not a human or you know, it was more

482
00:28:35.119 --> 00:28:39.319
animal than human. I think, and I shouldn't say more animal.

483
00:28:39.440 --> 00:28:42.920
It's its own saying rather than the human. You know,

484
00:28:42.960 --> 00:28:47.039
I think it's its own, separate animal. It has you know,

485
00:28:47.200 --> 00:28:50.079
human features for the fact that it's biped, and you

486
00:28:50.079 --> 00:28:53.200
know it's it's its body. The way it is, the

487
00:28:53.200 --> 00:28:55.920
way it walks, it's erect. You know, apes don't walk

488
00:28:56.000 --> 00:28:57.759
like that. The way the structure of the lumber or

489
00:28:57.759 --> 00:28:59.720
is fine, it doesn't vent. You know, they don't have

490
00:28:59.720 --> 00:29:02.240
the lung bar curve. That's what gives the ability of

491
00:29:02.839 --> 00:29:07.160
a human to walk upright, is that lumbar curve, and

492
00:29:07.200 --> 00:29:11.400
so it's more human like definitely than more of an

493
00:29:11.440 --> 00:29:12.440
ape like creature.

494
00:29:14.559 --> 00:29:18.359
Was there anything that you saw or experienced during that

495
00:29:18.440 --> 00:29:23.200
time that would make you think that there was a

496
00:29:23.279 --> 00:29:26.079
high level of intelligence involved.

497
00:29:28.240 --> 00:29:32.400
You know, boy, not really yet that you know, thinking back,

498
00:29:33.079 --> 00:29:36.640
it just you know, it didn't do anything you know,

499
00:29:37.079 --> 00:29:41.200
radical like run off or anything. It just calmly walked out.

500
00:29:41.759 --> 00:29:43.519
You know, it was going it actually it kind of

501
00:29:43.559 --> 00:29:46.680
walked when it was walking out. The pace of it

502
00:29:46.720 --> 00:29:51.440
walking out was faster than it was after we saw

503
00:29:51.599 --> 00:29:54.960
and it was walking you know, the other direction. So

504
00:29:55.319 --> 00:29:59.880
but you know, it looked so you know, human like.

505
00:30:00.119 --> 00:30:04.720
It was just huge, and you know, I think that's

506
00:30:04.759 --> 00:30:08.880
what fascinates me the most is you know, I think

507
00:30:08.920 --> 00:30:13.799
it's probably its own specie. It's not related to the apes.

508
00:30:13.880 --> 00:30:17.839
I just it's more human than ape. The way it

509
00:30:18.839 --> 00:30:19.759
looked and walked.

510
00:30:21.480 --> 00:30:28.000
You know, it's such an interesting conversation because, you know,

511
00:30:28.240 --> 00:30:31.759
on the one hand, when you have individuals that say

512
00:30:31.799 --> 00:30:35.279
that it looks like a large undiscovered ape, that's one

513
00:30:35.319 --> 00:30:40.519
thing too. But when you have multiple individuals that say, hey,

514
00:30:40.640 --> 00:30:46.160
it looks like a human that's really really tall, like

515
00:30:46.400 --> 00:30:50.200
eight to ten feet tall. Then that's another thing, because

516
00:30:51.400 --> 00:30:54.960
the line between whatever that is in the Giants of Old,

517
00:30:55.559 --> 00:30:59.519
that starts to blur pretty quick. So I don't know.

518
00:30:59.480 --> 00:31:03.640
Man, Yeah, you know, and you know, I know, I'm

519
00:31:03.640 --> 00:31:06.640
a physician, so you know, I look at people's gates

520
00:31:06.640 --> 00:31:09.680
all the time, and and you know, this was this

521
00:31:09.839 --> 00:31:13.319
was a human gait. It the way it walked other

522
00:31:13.400 --> 00:31:17.519
than you know, and there's some pathologies in in health

523
00:31:17.960 --> 00:31:21.920
that causes a person to flex forward or stoop forward,

524
00:31:22.519 --> 00:31:26.319
but you know, it was it was definitely humanoid gait.

525
00:31:29.519 --> 00:31:34.039
Yeah, this is getting really really detailed. But was there

526
00:31:34.079 --> 00:31:40.440
anything about the foot? Could you see any details about

527
00:31:40.480 --> 00:31:43.640
the foot or how that you know, the foot moved

528
00:31:43.720 --> 00:31:47.400
when it was walking that may have been different than

529
00:31:47.519 --> 00:31:50.200
you know, a normal human if you get what I'm doing, Yeah,

530
00:31:50.599 --> 00:31:51.039
you get it.

531
00:31:51.119 --> 00:31:55.799
Yeah, yeah, And you know I really wasn't paying you know,

532
00:31:55.920 --> 00:31:58.880
that close attention to you know, that part of the body,

533
00:31:58.880 --> 00:32:02.559
you know, the upper structure of it and its arms

534
00:32:02.559 --> 00:32:06.160
and head is what I was paying attention to. And

535
00:32:06.200 --> 00:32:08.559
then when it turned around and stopped and looked at me,

536
00:32:08.599 --> 00:32:12.079
you know, it was standing completely erect. So I really

537
00:32:12.599 --> 00:32:15.440
I don't even know if I remember ever seeing the feet.

538
00:32:15.599 --> 00:32:17.640
I don't think I was paying attention to that part.

539
00:32:20.000 --> 00:32:22.559
When you know, you went through the rest of your

540
00:32:22.559 --> 00:32:25.519
life and you'd talk to people every once in a

541
00:32:25.519 --> 00:32:28.960
while about this, and sounds like you would do internet research,

542
00:32:29.079 --> 00:32:32.319
you would read books things like that. Sometimes people in

543
00:32:32.400 --> 00:32:36.119
the same situation will actually go out and start to

544
00:32:36.200 --> 00:32:39.720
look for these things themselves. Is that anything that you

545
00:32:39.799 --> 00:32:43.119
ever got involved with or.

546
00:32:42.480 --> 00:32:44.279
You know, I haven't. You know, I did a lot

547
00:32:44.319 --> 00:32:47.039
of research on them and you know, read books, but

548
00:32:47.519 --> 00:32:53.160
to search, you know, well, it makes you feel a

549
00:32:53.160 --> 00:32:56.000
little bit uncomfortable. I don't think I would. You know,

550
00:32:56.319 --> 00:32:57.880
I'm a hunter and I go out, but most of

551
00:32:57.880 --> 00:32:59.720
the if I go hunting, you know, if it's out

552
00:32:59.720 --> 00:33:01.880
of the country or out of the state, you know,

553
00:33:01.920 --> 00:33:04.119
it's with a guide, so it's a little bit different.

554
00:33:04.200 --> 00:33:06.759
But I mean, even today, you know, i'm you know,

555
00:33:06.799 --> 00:33:09.640
as old as I am. I'm a little funny about

556
00:33:09.640 --> 00:33:12.319
walking out in the woods, you know, and it might

557
00:33:12.400 --> 00:33:16.640
sound strange, you know, but you just feel a little funny.

558
00:33:16.640 --> 00:33:19.000
And I've never had the feeling that somebody was watching

559
00:33:19.079 --> 00:33:21.400
me in the woods or anything like that, but it

560
00:33:21.519 --> 00:33:25.079
just feels a little funny. And it was pretty interesting.

561
00:33:25.119 --> 00:33:27.559
This had happened a couple of years ago. I was

562
00:33:27.599 --> 00:33:31.880
at a wedding and the bride the groom on his

563
00:33:32.000 --> 00:33:36.960
truck had a little picture of a sasquatch walking and says,

564
00:33:37.000 --> 00:33:40.759
I believe. And I said, hey, what what's that? And

565
00:33:41.000 --> 00:33:44.279
this he was a deputy sheriff and he goes, yeah,

566
00:33:44.319 --> 00:33:46.759
he goes, yeah, I believe in those, So tell me

567
00:33:46.759 --> 00:33:48.519
your story. And then he started telling me a story

568
00:33:48.559 --> 00:33:53.319
that he was on patrol and it wasn't too far

569
00:33:53.400 --> 00:33:55.880
from where I'm at now, but it was north on

570
00:33:55.920 --> 00:34:00.519
the Rock River up towards you know, between here and Wasisconsin,

571
00:34:01.160 --> 00:34:05.279
and he got called to a call and he went

572
00:34:05.279 --> 00:34:07.759
out there and he says there was more than one

573
00:34:07.799 --> 00:34:10.519
of those things, and he goes, it scared me so

574
00:34:10.639 --> 00:34:15.480
dang bad that you know, he goes, I'm a believer,

575
00:34:16.239 --> 00:34:20.239
you know. So you see and you're able to relate

576
00:34:20.280 --> 00:34:23.800
to these people of something that you had the luck

577
00:34:23.840 --> 00:34:26.760
to see in this phenomenon that you know, lots of

578
00:34:26.800 --> 00:34:30.199
people see and lots more wish they seen. But you know,

579
00:34:30.480 --> 00:34:32.719
the chances of me ever seeing one again, you know,

580
00:34:32.920 --> 00:34:35.000
I don't know if I'd want to see one, but

581
00:34:35.320 --> 00:34:37.960
you know, it's just something that it would be interesting

582
00:34:38.039 --> 00:34:39.800
because now I know what I'm looking at.

583
00:34:42.639 --> 00:34:47.760
Something I've found that interesting. Is a lot of times

584
00:34:47.880 --> 00:34:52.559
with witnesses, they will seem to be tied to other

585
00:34:52.679 --> 00:34:54.800
types of phenomenon as well.

586
00:34:55.719 --> 00:34:58.079
Have you had any other heard? Yeah?

587
00:34:58.199 --> 00:35:02.239
Have you had any other interesting weird things happen in

588
00:35:02.280 --> 00:35:03.280
your life besides this?

589
00:35:04.920 --> 00:35:06.440
None? None at all?

590
00:35:07.360 --> 00:35:14.000
Okay, that is that's almost as interesting as the fact

591
00:35:14.079 --> 00:35:16.440
of you seeing a big foot in itself, to be honest.

592
00:35:18.159 --> 00:35:20.000
Yeah, well, you know, I've seen some of the people

593
00:35:20.039 --> 00:35:21.800
and they, you know, they see all these things that

594
00:35:21.840 --> 00:35:23.800
I'm like, gosh, you know, I thought once, of course,

595
00:35:23.840 --> 00:35:25.800
I don't go out looking for them. I don't know.

596
00:35:25.840 --> 00:35:28.440
Maybe that would be different if I did. But if

597
00:35:28.480 --> 00:35:32.360
I do, I want to be from my vehicle always away,

598
00:35:33.199 --> 00:35:37.840
you know. But no, I've never seen anything, never anything

599
00:35:37.960 --> 00:35:40.199
supernatural or anything like that.

600
00:35:42.159 --> 00:35:45.400
The friends you had with you that day that were

601
00:35:45.480 --> 00:35:48.920
able to actually see it, is this anything that you

602
00:35:49.000 --> 00:35:51.760
ever talked about with them at a later time when

603
00:35:51.760 --> 00:35:54.519
you were growing up, or high schoolers or anything at that.

604
00:35:56.000 --> 00:35:58.840
Matter of fact. I was just at a class reunion

605
00:35:59.199 --> 00:36:03.239
a couple of months ago and my friend Greg is

606
00:36:03.280 --> 00:36:06.599
well he was she was in my class. So we

607
00:36:06.599 --> 00:36:09.519
were there and and he comes up to me goes,

608
00:36:10.599 --> 00:36:13.960
you ever think about that? And I start laughing. It's like,

609
00:36:14.679 --> 00:36:19.119
yeah a lot. So, and then we talked about He's like, yeah,

610
00:36:19.199 --> 00:36:21.880
it's an amazing thing. You know what was it? You know,

611
00:36:22.320 --> 00:36:26.079
it's like, gosh, you know, it's amazing because you know

612
00:36:26.119 --> 00:36:28.400
he's you know, four years older me or three years

613
00:36:28.440 --> 00:36:31.679
older than me. And it's like, yeah, we always whenever

614
00:36:31.719 --> 00:36:33.840
we see each other, you know, which is not that often,

615
00:36:33.880 --> 00:36:36.199
but we will always say, you know what, I wonder

616
00:36:36.239 --> 00:36:39.840
what that was. And then his brother, little brother, we

617
00:36:39.920 --> 00:36:42.360
talk about it a lot. You know. When we talk

618
00:36:42.440 --> 00:36:45.760
about it, it's like because he didn't see it, he goes, man,

619
00:36:45.800 --> 00:36:46.840
I wish I could have saw.

620
00:36:46.800 --> 00:36:50.599
That thing, right, I'd be the same way. Man if

621
00:36:50.599 --> 00:36:54.480
I if I had to grow up with my buddies

622
00:36:54.519 --> 00:36:56.800
and my brother talking about the bigfoot they saw and

623
00:36:56.840 --> 00:36:59.199
I just missed it by a few seconds.

624
00:37:00.320 --> 00:37:05.280
Yeah, exactly. Yeah, that's true.

625
00:37:06.320 --> 00:37:10.039
Well, Brian, thank you so much for coming on the

626
00:37:10.079 --> 00:37:16.400
show and for sharing what you experienced that day in Victoria, Illinois.

627
00:37:16.480 --> 00:37:20.840
Just another sighting that seems to be coming out from

628
00:37:20.920 --> 00:37:24.519
all over the place, and in this Midwestern States. Thank you.

629
00:37:26.000 --> 00:37:28.320
Yeah, you're welcome. I'm glad to share the story, and

630
00:37:28.639 --> 00:37:31.360
you know, I hope that if somebody hears about it

631
00:37:31.440 --> 00:37:34.840
around that time around that area, you know, they contact

632
00:37:34.920 --> 00:37:37.920
you because I think, you know, when you look at

633
00:37:38.000 --> 00:37:41.559
the amount of sightings they had down by Peoria, you know,

634
00:37:41.639 --> 00:37:44.559
it was in the newspapers down there, all over the place,

635
00:37:44.880 --> 00:37:46.519
and we just had no clue what was going on

636
00:37:46.639 --> 00:37:50.480
down there. So I'm sure hopefully somebody down there will

637
00:37:50.519 --> 00:37:52.719
be listening to you and you know, share their story

638
00:37:52.760 --> 00:37:53.000
with you.

639
00:37:54.519 --> 00:37:56.920
Absolutely, And if people want to reach out, the best

640
00:37:56.920 --> 00:37:59.440
way to reach out is to send me an email

641
00:38:00.079 --> 00:38:03.719
at Bigfoot Society gmail dot com. There's so many contacts

642
00:38:03.840 --> 00:38:06.079
that I get all over the place, but the best

643
00:38:06.079 --> 00:38:08.639
way to contact me and for it not to be

644
00:38:08.760 --> 00:38:12.480
lost is through email. So again, thank you so much

645
00:38:12.639 --> 00:38:16.079
Brian for coming on and definitely keep in touch if

646
00:38:16.119 --> 00:38:19.079
you hear anything else or experience anything else in the future.

647
00:38:20.239 --> 00:38:24.000
Oh, you're welcome and have a merry Christmasy.

648
00:38:23.000 --> 00:38:23.760
You as well, sir.

649
00:38:24.960 --> 00:38:25.400
Thank you.

650
00:38:25.400 --> 00:38:28.119
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