Feb. 4, 2025

I Took Off After It! | Georgia

Welcome to Bigfoot Society! In this episode, we have the pleasure of speaking with Tony Green, a seasoned Bigfoot researcher from Georgia. Tony shares his fascinating journey into the world of Bigfoot, starting from childhood interests sparked by...

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Season 1

Welcome to Bigfoot Society! In this episode, we have the pleasure of speaking with Tony Green, a seasoned Bigfoot researcher from Georgia. Tony shares his fascinating journey into the world of Bigfoot, starting from childhood interests sparked by shows like 'In Search Of' and 'Bigfoot and Wild Boy.' Listen as Tony recounts his numerous encounters and experiences in Jenkins Gap, including being charged by a mountain lion, discovering footprints, and an intense encounter at a campsite. Learn about the research methodologies employed back in the late '80s and the unique interactions with the Georgia Forestry Commission. Tony also discusses the current state of Bigfoot research in Georgia and his views on the creature's existence. Don't miss this in-depth look into the mysterious world of Bigfoot in the Peach State!

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slash the Big for Society and now let's get on

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with the show. All right, Big for Society. You've got

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the privilege of talking to mister Tony Green today. He's

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an individual that is a Bigfoot researcher down there in

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the great state of Georgia for quite a few years,

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and he'll he'll share all about that. But thank you

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for being on the show today, Tony. How's it going.

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It's going fantastic. I'm you know, I'm thankful for being here.

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I'm thankful to have you here too. And I was

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first introduced to you give. Give my friend Miss v

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shout out, I saw you over.

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She's awesome.

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Yeah, she's great, saw you over on her show. So

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we'll make sure I have a link to that in

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the show notes for sure. But Tony, if you wouldn't mind,

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you know, we're going to start out with the probably

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basic one that you know all all the researchers here

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is you know, what was it that first got you

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into the Bigfoot world to begin.

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With, Well, what got me into the Bigfoot world is

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different from what got me into Bigfoot period. Ever since

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I was a child, I was into Bigfoot, lot miss monsters,

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mysteries and stuff like that. I used to watch in

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Search of as a kid with my dad and my

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mom and them. I used to watch it was a

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Saturday night, not Saturday night, but Saturday morning kids show

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called Bigfoot and Wild Boy. They used to come on

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every Saturday morning. It was part of the Sid Marty

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Cross Super Show. So I was watching it there. One

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of the one of the first two Bigfoot movies that

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I ever watched. And like I said, I was a kid,

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we're talking five, anywhere between five to ten years old.

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I watched Legend of Boggy Creek of course, and the

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creature from Black Lake, so you know' and I've tried

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to watch that every time it came on television. So

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I was always into Bigfoot. I never thought that I

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would go researching for it or nothing like that, but

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it was just it was just was something that I've

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always believed in, you know, from from a child. It

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never was a mystery to me. I never felt it

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to be like mysterious or something like that, because, you know,

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to me, it was just another a that just hasn't

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been discovered or documented yet, you know, but it was

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out there, you know, and to me at that age,

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Bigfoot was as normal as a bear or something, a

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grizzly bear or something. So but what got me into

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the bigfoot world happened. This is back in eighty nine.

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I was working in a convenience store and I worked

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third shift. And back then, you know, you didn't have

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too many people that would that would be out that

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time of night. Back then, you know, everything was pretty

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much shut down except for your police officers and US

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teenagers that was out and about. But I had it,

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like I worked third shift in this convenience store, so

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I would have a couple of friends that would come

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by and hang out, and you know, we'd be talking

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about ghosts, bigfoot, locking this monster, UFOs and just anything

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kind of creepy. It was mainly ghosts, but bigfoot whatever.

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Now every now and again trickle in and one of

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my friends knew a guy whose name is Jan Allen

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he has said since since passed away, and his brother,

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and he asked if he can bring them up, you know,

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to the store to because they had a bigfoot research team.

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I was like, well, yeah, that'd be interesting. So you know,

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they come up there, and you know, we talked, and

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over time, you know, they would come up every time

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I was working and just tell us different you know

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stories and how their research team got you know together,

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and stuff they were doing. And they asked me to go,

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and I was like, no, I don't need to do that,

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I said, I you know, I believe they exist. I'm

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not trying to prove anything. I ain't gonna prove nothing

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to me, you know, I don't. I asked a question,

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why would they not exist? So over time, you know,

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I would go down to his house and he would

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show me different videos and tapes and newspaper clippings and

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stuff and that got me kind of interested in and

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I said, okay, so if one of my buddies, if

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he goes, I'll go. It's like it was a deal

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like that. So they had a trip planned for uh

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October of that of that year, and I wind up going.

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My other buddy never did go, and I've been doing

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it ever since. That's that's how I got started. That's

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what kicked it off.

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Wow, that I mean, that's well. I mean, was it

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one of those things where on your first trip, you know,

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you just got hooked after actually getting out there?

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Then no, all right, So on my first trip, I

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think it was the second night I got charged by

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the mount line. That was interesting. But it was the

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third day, you know, I said, I've always believed in Bigfoot.

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It was never a thing of mystery to me. I

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just knew that. I knew that there was a bipedal

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walking primate in the woods. When I saw my first print,

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like up close first footprint, that's what really, that's when

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everything sank in, Like the the belief became a reality

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to me. You know, the reaction most people have if

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they see one, That was the reaction I had when

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I saw the print, and you know ever since then

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that's you couldn't tell me there's not that's what sunk.

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That's what you know, I will say, grab me into

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the research field. Was seeing my first print.

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You know, I agree with you. It's like the way

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you put that is just it's so great. You know,

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you trans transfer over from belief to reality. I think

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that's that's how you said it, right, And it's a

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perfect way to say it, man, because then it's like, oh,

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they're out there and I know where they are, so

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I want to go out again and see if I

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can get a little bit more evidence that like what's

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stopping me from going out there again? I know where

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they are. I mean, it's just right, totally changes the

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way you view things. It's wild.

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Those were the first steps into you know, researching, like

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research and researching, not just looking stuff up, not just

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knowing that I know, but I'm going in these mountains

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and look, you know type thing.

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Now you'd mentioned that you'd also been charged by a

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mountain lion or a cougar as well. Did you actually

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see it then?

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No, I didn't see it. I heard it coming and

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all right, So this was, like I said, this was

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at night and we were we were going out. We

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were on this fire road and we were probably a

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good one hundred and two hundred yards outside of base camp.

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And at the time I didn't have a gun, but

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there were there were two others. There was a guy

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that was probably fifty feet in front of me and

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another guy fifty feet behind me, and they had they

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had their guns. And then we were walking up fire road,

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keeping up, keeping the same distance, and I just heard

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duck and I can hear this thing coming at me

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like like doing that number, just coming down the hillside.

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They shot up over its head and it took off

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running back up the hill and you could hear it.

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You can, you can hear it growling. That's it's funny

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because at the time, this is this is crazy. I

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was afraid of guns. At the time, I had never

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shot a pistol in my life or any kind of

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firearm for that matter, and I was afraid of guns.

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But after that, I said, I'll never ever come back

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up here again without no kind of gun. And that

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right there got me into firearms. Just that Bigfoot research

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has kind of really in a sense, changed the trajectory

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of my life. When I if I you know, thinking

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back and the things I do now, the things I'm

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into now, and all of that. It took a turn

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when I started researching Bigfoot.

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Interesting, did you find that?

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So?

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Were there certain skills that you picked up that you

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wouldn't have had in your life because of your research

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in the Bigfoot?

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Then? Yeah, oh yeah. One main skill, Like, I'm not

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a tracker. I'm not going to I'm not one to

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be tracking. I'm not a tracker. Like, if I see

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a track, I can follow it for the most part,

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but if it gets where it's like you know how

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you know people will see an overturned leaf and can

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tell whatever walk there. I'm not that, you know. If

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I see a track, I can follow the impressions as

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far as they'll lead me, and I can kind of

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look around and kind of sense where a direction may

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be going by, you know, gang trails and stuff like that.

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But the main thing I say I've learned is an

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awareness in the woods and aware. Just the other day

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I was I was at and I just noticed just

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thinking about this this stuff I wasn't never even thought about.

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If I had not been researching. I go by, you know,

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at my job, there's a patch of woods and I

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go by there this particular patch of woods four or

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five times a day. Well, I noticed in the morning

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you could barely like we have a fence, and then

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there's the woods where you can barely see ten to

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twenty feet back there in the woods in the morning,

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like when the sun's just coming up. During during the afternoon,

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I could see you see probably an extra ten feet

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beyond what you would see in the morning. But in

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the evening when the sun's like i'd say around four

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o'clock at this time of year, you can see hundred

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feet in the woods in that same area. And I

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was noticing how certain parts of the day you're able

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to see further and see more in the in the

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in this particular patch of woods, and it, you know,

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stuff like that gets me to think and how a

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certain at a certain part of the day, a sasquatch

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can come up close and you'd never see it. You

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never see it, but if if it's at a particular

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part of the day in the same spot, you'd be

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wide open to you you'd been to see it everything.

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So it's just stuff like that, an awareness of the

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woods and awareness of my surroundings that really that's one

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of the I'd say one of the traits that I've

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definitely picked up on through Bigfoot research.

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Georgia has come up on the show a few times.

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Usually we're talking about northern Georgia. We talked to a

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lot of people witnesses from Chattahoochee National National Forests, l A. J.

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Cherry Log and even over in north northwest John's Mountain area.

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There's been a few people from over there, and there's

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some really interesting things that happened in that northwest area,

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even as crazy as as the Blue Ridge l J area.

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I would think, so, you know, for listeners that might

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be new Georgia's not just peach trees and plantations that

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you get up in the north and there's some serious,

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serious bigfoot activity going on.

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Oh yeah. And actually, and I mean I can give

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this location away where we researched at was about probably

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about thirty no, not that far, probably about ten or

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fifteen miles above Rome, place called Tidings, little town called Tidings,

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and the mountain, the mountain we were on, was called

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a Taylor's Ridge, and we researched that area for see

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I started in eighty nine and they were actually researching

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that area starting the group I was in. It's called

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Georgia Bigfoot Research and Investigation, And as far as I know,

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we were the only group at that time doing any

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kind of bigfoot research that I know of. They were

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researching that area in like eighty five, eighty four, eighty

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six summer around there, and we documented and when I

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say documented, I'm based on tracks, different size tracks, eight

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different creatures living in that area. That would you know

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if we went up during the summer a couple of

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times nothing happened, Absolutely nothing happened. We went up there

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in the winter a couple of times, nothing happened. All

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of our activity was spring, like I want to say,

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like maybe early spring and and about mid fall somewhere

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around and there April, around April and May and October

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is when a lot of our activity would happen. So

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we figured that these creatures wasn't living on Taylor's Ridge,

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but they were traveling through like in the springtime they

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would be going to a location and in the fall

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they would be coming from that location going back to

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wherever they were living at. We've heard about rumors of

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a mountain mountain up in that area called Dirt Cellar Mountain.

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Big So society who would be right back after these messages.

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One of the rumors at that time was you don't

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want to be caught on dirt Cellar Mountain at night.

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And now we were I think Dirt Cellar Mountains runs

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into Alabama. I think because we weren't, we was not

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able to get up on that particular mountain, and back

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then we would have to to get on Taylor's Ridge.

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We actually would go to the Forestry Commission and get

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a key to unlock the gate. You know, they would

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shut the mountain down to us while we were up there.

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So we were the only human beings up there on

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that mountain until they started opening up more to the public.

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And it was on It was down in the ridge

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called Jenkin's Gap that I had my first sighting. And

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as we were down there is me and two others,

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we were just you know, we had just walked down there.

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This is two three o'clock in the afternoon. We had

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just walked down there, just you know, kind of looking

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for signs and stuff, and I hot a glimpse of

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something take off. And I'm gonna say it's probably about

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a good six foot five six foot tall, but it

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was running and I immediately just took off after it,

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didn't give it us, didn't give it a second thought,

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just took off after it. And I'm following it, but

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it's pacing me like it's not leaving me, and I'm

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surely not gaining on it. We kept the same distance,

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and if I had to guess the distance, I'm gonna

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say it was probably fifty yards ahead of me when

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I seen it running, and you know, I was watching

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it go through trees and I was just keeping up

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with it. I couldn't tell you what happened to the

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other two. The only thing I had with me at

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that time was a single shot shotgun with bird shot,

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and I had one round and it we out. I

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couldn't tell you how long we ran, but we ran,

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and then I didn't see it no more. And when

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I didn't see it no more, I stopped. And when

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I stopped, the other two, whoever was that was with me,

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they were not there no more. They either went back

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to camp or just stopped running. And I didn't know

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they wasn't there. I was by myself down there, and

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it was definitely quiet. Now, Like I said, this is

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two three o'clock in the afternoon. There was no birds chirping,

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There is nothing, no crickets cricket, There is no wind blowing.

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It is definitely quiet. And I just when I when

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I when I stopped, I just like I said, and

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I hollered this out loud. I said, listen, I'm not

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running no more, and I'm not running back to camp.

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So if you want to follow me, you can, but

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I'm going to walk back to camp. I'm not running.

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So there you go, and I back to like back

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up turn and I walked back to camp, and you can.

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You can hear them every so every every so often

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they would they were pacing me, and I say they,

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I'm figuring there's probably three, because I was probably chasing

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a gentile, juvenile And I got about a good one

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hundred yards outside of base camp and they stopped. And

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you know, I'm thinking, they probably figure this dude lost

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his mind and we're just going to help him get

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back to camp and leave him alone. That's what I

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figured they were thinking. So they didn't do nothing crazy,

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you know. And every time we were up there and

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they you know, these things didn't there was nothing threatening

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about them whatsoever.

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It's it's very intest sting because you did run after it,

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and that's that's not an you know, normal thing you

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hear in accounts like this. But what was your oh,

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what was your motivation behind just taking off after it

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and seeing if you could catch it?

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Okay, so that happened. I was, like I said, my

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first trip was in eighty nine. This was probably ninety

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two or ninety three. When we would go up there,

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these things would circle the camp. I mean, it was

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a normal occurn from the circle of camp and we

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would go out after them. They would, we would when

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we would go out, we'd hear them coming. They'd circle

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the camp. We would go out and were trying to

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see one, trying to see one up close. Pretty sure,

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we walked past them. A few times we would go out,

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they'd stopped whatever they were doing. We didn't see nothing.

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We'd come back to camp, they circle the camp, We

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go out and this, you know, this thing would go

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on from time to time. So there was I was

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never afraid of him. There was never nothing threatening like

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For example, I've I've never personally heard one in person

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scream or holler. No. Only audible that I've heard is

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a grunk here or there. That's it, so they didn't

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put out, they didn't put any fearful vibe. So and

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you know, to me, I just I didn't. I never

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felt threatened by him. So when I saw it take

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when I saw it running, it was just instinct, just

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take off after it. I've never I've never had a

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fear of them. And that was that was that was

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the the one. Then, I guess five or six years

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after that, me, my father, my ex father in law,

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ex wife, and my son at the time, look he

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was a baby, we went up just camping out, you know,

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because there there's there's areas up there that you can

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just camp and it's just you know, we're not doing

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no research. We just nice are to camp. And we

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were camping out and we were getting loud, so the

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women wanted to go to bed. So me and my

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father in law decided we were going to walk down

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to the creek and just hang out down there. And

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how this place was, you had like a little trail,

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creek ran along the trail, and as you got to

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go down on to the creek, there was a little

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bend that would you know, you just to kind of

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walk down and you're in the water. So we were

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as we were walking down this little trail we get

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as we were going to the bend, this thing steps

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out and it didn't step out into the clear, but

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it stepped to the edge of the brush. It was

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like it didn't hear us coming. We didn't hear it,

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up hear it, and we startled each other and just stopped.

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And you can see it's it's its eye shine. It

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was like reflecting off of the campfire camp light, and

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it started, you know, doing its bobbing and weaving and

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and like just rocking back and forth. Deal. And my

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father in law he didn't he didn't necessarily see it

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at first, and I'm hit him. I was like, what

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is that because I'm pointing. I was pointing out this thing.

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This is probably eight eight feet eight feet tall at least,

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I'm pointing up looking at it, and he's looking eye level.

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When he finally looks up and sees the eye shine,

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he started to draw his gun. I stopped him from

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drawings because he was going to shoot it. I was like, no, no, no,

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don't do that. So we stood there. It looked at us,

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We looked at it. It gave a grunt and turned

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and it sound like elephants going through the brush. At

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that point, it was like it didn't even care anymore.

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It just and he was like, well, so of course

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next day we get up, we look at the you know,

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see the prince, see where it went through the brush.

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And that thing had a good it was a fourteen

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fourteen a half inch track. I believe.

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That's a good, good, sizable track for sure.

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Oh yeah, this.

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I always find it interesting how areas are first found.

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Is there a story behind how the original researcher that

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found that this Jenkins Gap was a area with bigfoot

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in it? There an interesting story behind how this area

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was found to begin with?

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Yes, So you remember the tabloid The Sun. Yeah, that

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tabloid paper, The Sun. Sure, Okay, So actually, this this

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guy I can't think of his name, but he went

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up on Taylor's Ridge and basically him and his friend

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were playing to go on Taylor's Ridge to pick Jensen.

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And the friend got sick, said, you know, he couldn't

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come up right then, he'd come up later meet him

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up there. So the guy goes up and he's picking Gensing.

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So I think they had set up a time that

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they were going to meet, or a time that he

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was possibly going to be there. So the guy's up

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there picking Jensen's this, and where he's picking that is

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in the place where I chased that creatures, in Jenkin's gap,

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and and he, you know, he's picking gensing and he

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catches movement out the corner of his eye. He thought

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it was his friend, so he hollers, hey, I'm over here.

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And so he goes back to doing what he was doing.

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And he said, you know, after thirty minutes, nothing nobody

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showed up. He figured from the distance that he saw

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the movement to where he was woulden. They took no

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more than ten minutes or so. So after after a

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little little while longer, he said, the hair is on

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the back of his neck stood up, and when he

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looked up, this thing was standing there looking at him,

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he said, and this is from this story. He couldn't run,

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His legs were locked. He couldn't move, he said. The

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things stood there, looked at him for a minute like blue,

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turned and walked up the ravine, and he said, the

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thing walk with a limb. It looked like it was

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it had been injured. And it walked like dragging its

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foot up the ravine. And he said, when he got

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a sight, he took off. He called the Sheriff's department.

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The Sheriff's department called the Forestry Commission. And I think,

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I don't know how it got in that Sun newspaper,

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but the team I was in they called the Sun,

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which got him in touch with the guy and the

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sheriff department. And that's that's how we got up there.

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And back then it was known that there were creatures

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in that area. It was known by the George Georgia

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Forestry Commission that there were creatures in that area. They

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had been seen in the cemeteries. They had been seen

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like rummaging through trash and all that.

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That's that. That is quite a statement to put out.

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There are there interactions you had that that made you

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think that, yes, the Forestry Department is aware of those

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creatures being out there.

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Well, for one is now this is like I said,

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this is back late eighties, early nineties. Right. For one,

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they knew we were a bigfoot research team. We had

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to go through the forest Georgia Forestry Commission to get

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up there. They would ask what have we found? What

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did we see? Did we capture anything? They knew us

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by name and now, I don't want to disclose the

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gentleman's name that we knew by name, but we knew

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him by name, and he would come up sometime and

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talk with us about various other incidents in that area.

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Now it's not like that now, of course, But they

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know that I'm gonna putting it. They may still know.

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I would say that I don't think they ever don't know,

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but they I believe they do know, just not they

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don't want to whole bunch of people up there on

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that hill, you know, looking for this thing.

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Oh yeah, I mean that. That totally makes sense now

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when you say it's not like that now, Are you

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saying this area does not have a lot of bigfoot

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in it now? Or your interaction with the Forestry Department

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is not like that now.

455
00:29:38.279 --> 00:29:40.960
The interaction with the Forestreet Department is not like that now?

456
00:29:41.039 --> 00:29:43.960
Got it? Back then? It was pretty back then it

457
00:29:44.000 --> 00:29:46.480
was pretty much like a buddy system, you know, like

458
00:29:46.920 --> 00:29:49.079
when we first got up there, like they already had

459
00:29:49.119 --> 00:29:52.759
this relationship established when I came on board with the team,

460
00:29:54.440 --> 00:29:57.160
and it was before when we set up. When we

461
00:29:57.200 --> 00:30:01.039
would decide we were going to go, we would call that.

462
00:30:01.160 --> 00:30:03.920
We would literally call the for Georgia Forestry Commission, ask

463
00:30:04.000 --> 00:30:05.440
for a particular person.

464
00:30:06.240 --> 00:30:09.039
Big for society who would be right back after these messages.

465
00:30:25.079 --> 00:30:29.680
This person would then let us know the best possible

466
00:30:29.720 --> 00:30:33.640
time have us. We would we would then go up there,

467
00:30:33.960 --> 00:30:36.839
pick up the key to the gate to that mountain,

468
00:30:37.400 --> 00:30:39.880
and they would close off the mountain after we got there,

469
00:30:40.160 --> 00:30:41.960
and so we would be only humans up there on

470
00:30:42.000 --> 00:30:49.000
that mountain researching any evidence that we found. We would

471
00:30:49.160 --> 00:30:55.599
let this particular individual know and he would. Now he

472
00:30:55.839 --> 00:30:59.160
was not like a government official that would take it

473
00:30:59.200 --> 00:31:01.799
and hide it. He was literally on our side and

474
00:31:01.880 --> 00:31:03.000
interested in the topic.

475
00:31:05.839 --> 00:31:09.240
That is so unique. I mean, I would wager that

476
00:31:09.240 --> 00:31:12.440
that individual, if he's still around, is probably retired by now.

477
00:31:13.079 --> 00:31:19.640
Now that's what interesting individual with some very interesting stories,

478
00:31:19.680 --> 00:31:22.920
I would wager. But wow, do you think that area

479
00:31:23.039 --> 00:31:27.000
is still well? I know, I guess north in that

480
00:31:27.200 --> 00:31:30.599
wilderness area there's quite a bit of big Foot activity.

481
00:31:30.640 --> 00:31:33.039
Do you think there's still some down there in the

482
00:31:33.400 --> 00:31:35.039
southern part as well?

483
00:31:35.640 --> 00:31:38.519
Now, now I haven't been up there. The last time

484
00:31:38.519 --> 00:31:42.920
I was up there on that heel was two thousand

485
00:31:42.960 --> 00:31:52.759
and seven, and as activity began to die down around

486
00:31:52.880 --> 00:31:57.880
two thousand and three, two thousand and four, and what

487
00:31:57.960 --> 00:32:03.160
was happening was it became more populated. There, became more hikers.

488
00:32:03.319 --> 00:32:06.759
The last time we camped up there where our base

489
00:32:06.839 --> 00:32:11.240
camp sat, we literally had people on horseback riding through

490
00:32:11.240 --> 00:32:17.119
our camp. So you know, at one point they would

491
00:32:17.160 --> 00:32:19.519
shut down the mountain. We'd be the only humans up there.

492
00:32:19.599 --> 00:32:24.119
And after this person you know, left, you know that

493
00:32:24.240 --> 00:32:26.640
no longer was the case. They removed the gates so

494
00:32:26.680 --> 00:32:29.599
you no longer needed to call them to come up there.

495
00:32:30.079 --> 00:32:32.559
It was just open to the public. So you had

496
00:32:32.559 --> 00:32:36.680
a lot of foot traffic, hikers going through there. Now,

497
00:32:37.119 --> 00:32:42.599
I honestly believe if the creatures are still there, they're

498
00:32:42.880 --> 00:32:46.720
more out of sight or people are seeing them and

499
00:32:46.920 --> 00:32:54.359
just not necessarily reporting them. Sure, you know. And then

500
00:32:54.440 --> 00:32:58.759
there's there's a whole mountain range up there, so it's

501
00:32:58.799 --> 00:33:01.000
possible too. And like I said, this is just me

502
00:33:01.160 --> 00:33:05.440
speculating because I haven't heard anything come out of that

503
00:33:05.680 --> 00:33:10.240
particular mountain where we researched at in a while. Is

504
00:33:10.319 --> 00:33:12.480
there's a whole lot of mountain ranges, so I mean,

505
00:33:12.799 --> 00:33:16.119
you know, by the foot traffic coming up through there,

506
00:33:16.160 --> 00:33:19.200
and also there's been some storms that has hit that area.

507
00:33:19.279 --> 00:33:22.759
Also they could have just moved to another mountain, because

508
00:33:22.759 --> 00:33:26.119
I fully believe there was a family pod up there

509
00:33:26.279 --> 00:33:29.440
of at least eight eight creatures, and by now it

510
00:33:29.480 --> 00:33:33.640
ain't like they dwindle. I'm pretty sure they multiplied. So

511
00:33:33.680 --> 00:33:36.200
there's no telling how many is up there or where

512
00:33:36.240 --> 00:33:37.039
they're roaming at.

513
00:33:38.480 --> 00:33:41.079
How were you able to tell that there was eight

514
00:33:41.079 --> 00:33:42.599
different individuals there.

515
00:33:43.839 --> 00:33:48.359
Eight different footprints now, all right? So the biggest one,

516
00:33:48.720 --> 00:33:52.279
this one we found on our one of our last

517
00:33:52.359 --> 00:33:56.240
day trips. We had just poured a thirteen and the

518
00:33:56.279 --> 00:33:58.079
thirteen and a half inch track. We ran out of

519
00:33:58.079 --> 00:34:01.400
plaster Paris. We're packing up, getting ready to go, and

520
00:34:02.960 --> 00:34:05.240
we well, we parked, we parked our cars in the

521
00:34:05.279 --> 00:34:09.840
line and at the last car, you know at night

522
00:34:09.960 --> 00:34:12.519
you would be just outside the light radius we can

523
00:34:12.599 --> 00:34:16.880
go use the bathroom. Well, there was a tree behind

524
00:34:16.920 --> 00:34:21.199
this last car, and as we were packing up, the

525
00:34:21.239 --> 00:34:23.760
girl was packing up a car and she hollered for

526
00:34:23.880 --> 00:34:28.280
us to come look at this. And we walked back

527
00:34:28.320 --> 00:34:32.440
there and it was the prettiest twenty one inch footprint

528
00:34:32.840 --> 00:34:35.719
that you will ever see, and we didn't have nothing

529
00:34:35.760 --> 00:34:38.559
to pour it with. It was about an inch inch

530
00:34:38.599 --> 00:34:42.559
and a half in the ground deep where we had

531
00:34:42.559 --> 00:34:44.960
a guy that was there, he's three hundred and fifty pounds.

532
00:34:44.960 --> 00:34:49.159
Couldn't even put a dent into dirt. Oh, everything was

533
00:34:49.199 --> 00:34:49.920
a monster.

534
00:34:50.159 --> 00:34:54.079
It's a different time because you know, today's technology you

535
00:34:54.119 --> 00:34:56.039
could just do a three D scan of it, But

536
00:34:56.079 --> 00:34:59.280
back then it was plaster or nothing, right.

537
00:34:59.599 --> 00:35:03.400
Yep, yep, because all we had it's it's it's oh man,

538
00:35:03.440 --> 00:35:05.800
I think about the if we'd had the technology we

539
00:35:05.920 --> 00:35:11.440
have now back then, the evidence we could have gathered

540
00:35:11.480 --> 00:35:15.960
would be incredible, incredible. All we had was a maglite,

541
00:35:17.159 --> 00:35:21.079
our pistol and some plaster parish and you know, your

542
00:35:21.119 --> 00:35:24.519
general camp and stuffunt camp compasses and stuff like that.

543
00:35:25.920 --> 00:35:29.199
Because we were we were we were a poor ragtag group.

544
00:35:29.400 --> 00:35:31.800
You know, we didn't have a lot of money. So

545
00:35:32.840 --> 00:35:36.039
we worked with what we had, and you know, it produced,

546
00:35:36.639 --> 00:35:40.639
it produced, especially like when they would come around camp,

547
00:35:40.920 --> 00:35:45.039
you know, and I gotta make this this caveat here too?

548
00:35:45.199 --> 00:35:48.639
Is that you know I can. As I'm telling these stories,

549
00:35:48.679 --> 00:35:51.159
it seemed like stuff happened every time we went up there,

550
00:35:51.840 --> 00:35:55.519
and that's just not the case. There were a couple,

551
00:35:55.599 --> 00:35:57.960
there were quite a few times, more often than not

552
00:35:58.119 --> 00:36:01.480
that it was just a camping trip, because you know,

553
00:36:01.519 --> 00:36:05.880
we were trying to figure out when are they moving exactly,

554
00:36:05.880 --> 00:36:08.679
how when and how when are they moving? So we

555
00:36:08.679 --> 00:36:12.679
would try to plan according to the previous year's activity,

556
00:36:13.199 --> 00:36:17.400
you know, and when we hit it on the dot,

557
00:36:17.519 --> 00:36:20.159
we hit it on the dot. They would circle the camp,

558
00:36:20.719 --> 00:36:24.239
throw stuff in the fire, you know, have us run

559
00:36:24.280 --> 00:36:26.679
out there after them, and then we go back to camp

560
00:36:26.679 --> 00:36:29.480
and they just do their thing. And then there'd be

561
00:36:29.559 --> 00:36:31.639
day times where we go up there and it'd just

562
00:36:31.639 --> 00:36:36.760
be just a camping trip, not the first thing. So

563
00:36:36.920 --> 00:36:40.239
like these things, you know, these events that's happened were

564
00:36:40.320 --> 00:36:46.159
few and far between, but you know, we like we

565
00:36:46.280 --> 00:36:48.360
Like I said, we had eight different tracks. The smallest

566
00:36:48.400 --> 00:36:54.000
track was like eleven inches, the biggest one being that

567
00:36:54.159 --> 00:36:58.639
twenty one. Then the one that was crippled, he had

568
00:36:58.719 --> 00:37:02.639
like a fifteen to sixteen inch track, and you would

569
00:37:02.639 --> 00:37:04.880
see you could tell his track because you would see

570
00:37:04.880 --> 00:37:07.400
his footprint. Then you see the drag mark. I fully

571
00:37:07.440 --> 00:37:10.000
believe there was a family pot up there, if you know,

572
00:37:10.360 --> 00:37:13.920
I mean, it could very well still be there, just

573
00:37:13.960 --> 00:37:17.519
in a different location in that mountain range.

574
00:37:17.800 --> 00:37:22.280
Oh absolutely, in that area. Would you ever hear any

575
00:37:22.400 --> 00:37:26.360
strange vocalizations or sounds in the woods.

576
00:37:27.719 --> 00:37:30.280
That's that's the thing. The only thing I've ever heard

577
00:37:30.440 --> 00:37:34.599
was like a low grunt. Okay, no, no wood knots.

578
00:37:35.079 --> 00:37:37.280
Then hear no wood knots. Well, I take that back.

579
00:37:37.800 --> 00:37:41.039
Heard a whistle, heard a couple of whistles once or twice,

580
00:37:41.679 --> 00:37:46.239
but no real like hollers. One of my like I

581
00:37:46.360 --> 00:37:49.360
used to I used to tease. I was like, man,

582
00:37:49.480 --> 00:37:53.199
I would love to hear the screen from the Boggy

583
00:37:53.199 --> 00:37:56.760
Creek movie, just to be up there one night. And

584
00:37:56.760 --> 00:37:59.800
that thing this cuts loose right, and I just I've

585
00:38:00.079 --> 00:38:03.480
I've never never heard the holler, never heard the holler.

586
00:38:04.800 --> 00:38:07.559
That's one of the that's that's like a bucket list thing.

587
00:38:08.440 --> 00:38:11.880
I would be so satisfied to be out there, you know,

588
00:38:12.519 --> 00:38:16.199
And I mean, nothing else can happen, But I just

589
00:38:16.360 --> 00:38:21.840
hear that holler with my own ears. That that's that's

590
00:38:21.880 --> 00:38:27.440
like a bucket list thing for me. The strangest thing

591
00:38:27.559 --> 00:38:30.960
I've heard was we were walking down and so the

592
00:38:30.960 --> 00:38:33.039
way you when you go down into Jenkins Gap, you

593
00:38:33.079 --> 00:38:35.599
got to make this like a zig zag pattern down

594
00:38:35.639 --> 00:38:42.519
into the ravine. So we're about we're gonna after about

595
00:38:42.519 --> 00:38:46.559
the second zig I guess. You say I heard a

596
00:38:46.639 --> 00:38:51.880
tree get pushed over, and I say pushed over because

597
00:38:51.920 --> 00:38:55.199
it wasn't no wind. There was nothing windy, nothing like

598
00:38:55.280 --> 00:39:02.559
that going on. It just was you heard. And I

599
00:39:02.599 --> 00:39:04.079
was looking at my butty. I was like, what the

600
00:39:04.079 --> 00:39:08.360
heck was that? So that sounds like a tree. I

601
00:39:08.400 --> 00:39:10.800
was like, yeah, send, it's down there in the bottoms.

602
00:39:10.840 --> 00:39:12.400
You want to go. He's like, yeah, let's go down

603
00:39:12.440 --> 00:39:13.760
there and look and see what this is. So we

604
00:39:13.800 --> 00:39:18.159
walked down there. Sure enough, tree was pushed over, and

605
00:39:18.199 --> 00:39:22.760
we're looking around like, I mean, it was a live tree.

606
00:39:22.800 --> 00:39:25.159
Why was it? You know, it didn't just break and

607
00:39:25.280 --> 00:39:30.039
fall over. It was pushed over. So and you know,

608
00:39:30.159 --> 00:39:32.079
we look at each other. It's like, did we make

609
00:39:32.119 --> 00:39:35.559
something mad? It's like, I don't know. So we're standing there.

610
00:39:35.639 --> 00:39:38.239
He's on one end of this tree. I'm on the

611
00:39:38.280 --> 00:39:42.559
other end of the tree, and we're probably good thirty

612
00:39:42.840 --> 00:39:48.119
forty feet apart. I'm at the trunk, he's at the

613
00:39:48.159 --> 00:39:55.480
top of the tree, and we're looking for footprints and stuff,

614
00:39:56.199 --> 00:40:04.480
and simultaneously we hear just like that. I look up,

615
00:40:04.559 --> 00:40:07.280
I look at him and he's looking at me. Did

616
00:40:07.280 --> 00:40:10.199
you hear that? Like? Yeah, where did it come from.

617
00:40:10.320 --> 00:40:12.199
I was like, I'm beyond with it sounded like it

618
00:40:12.280 --> 00:40:14.880
was right next to me because it felt like I

619
00:40:14.880 --> 00:40:18.599
could feel the wind from it. He said, that's weird.

620
00:40:18.599 --> 00:40:23.039
It sounds like that to me too. And we didn't

621
00:40:23.119 --> 00:40:28.880
see nothing, didn't hear nothing, didn't find no footprints nothing.

622
00:40:30.960 --> 00:40:32.800
I said, that was the weirdest thing that's ever happened

623
00:40:32.800 --> 00:40:33.000
to me.

624
00:40:34.199 --> 00:40:40.840
That is very strange. Thinking of the all the different

625
00:40:41.599 --> 00:40:44.199
times that you've gone out over the years, has there

626
00:40:44.239 --> 00:40:49.639
been a time where the things have escalated in a

627
00:40:49.679 --> 00:40:52.559
way that you kind of became uncomfortable with.

628
00:40:56.079 --> 00:41:03.800
Once? And I'm comfortable of a perfect word to put it,

629
00:41:03.840 --> 00:41:05.920
because that actually I went and sat in the car

630
00:41:06.039 --> 00:41:10.559
after that one same location, but we were at the

631
00:41:10.639 --> 00:41:14.840
area where it walked out with me and my ex

632
00:41:14.920 --> 00:41:19.400
father in law. We were camping at that area right there.

633
00:41:19.559 --> 00:41:22.159
Actually we were camping down on the creek at this

634
00:41:22.199 --> 00:41:26.480
particular time, close to it rather, and I was on

635
00:41:26.519 --> 00:41:31.920
a Saturday morning. Everybody got up and they went back

636
00:41:31.960 --> 00:41:34.719
into town to pick up some supply, so I stayed

637
00:41:34.760 --> 00:41:36.760
in camp because I just wanted to take a quick

638
00:41:37.000 --> 00:41:41.320
wash off and everything. So I'm in my tent and

639
00:41:42.880 --> 00:41:45.639
I got my clothes off, got my little poddle water

640
00:41:46.360 --> 00:41:54.679
and I'm soaking up and I hear who And at first,

641
00:41:54.840 --> 00:41:59.039
you know, I'm thinking it's a owl. It's eleven o'clock

642
00:41:59.079 --> 00:42:02.960
in the morning. You know, you no ailes out eleven

643
00:42:02.960 --> 00:42:07.119
o'clock in the morning. So I'm and I'm you know,

644
00:42:07.159 --> 00:42:10.239
I'm going through. I'm like, well, I'm still in my

645
00:42:10.360 --> 00:42:14.079
mind thinking this is a now, So I continue to

646
00:42:14.760 --> 00:42:17.679
sofa up and then I hear it again, but from

647
00:42:17.719 --> 00:42:21.719
a different location, and I was like, man, come on,

648
00:42:21.800 --> 00:42:23.920
you've got to be kidding me. This is not happening

649
00:42:24.000 --> 00:42:26.960
right now. And just as quick as I got that

650
00:42:27.039 --> 00:42:31.719
thought out, and I heard it again from another location,

651
00:42:33.159 --> 00:42:35.519
and I was like, oh no, no, no, So I

652
00:42:35.679 --> 00:42:39.239
hurry up and wiped off real quick, and I stopped

653
00:42:39.280 --> 00:42:44.360
and listening and at they were, and it was closing

654
00:42:44.400 --> 00:42:49.559
in on me, and I just I got dressed and

655
00:42:49.639 --> 00:42:52.360
went and sat in the car. I said, not today.

656
00:42:53.920 --> 00:42:57.440
But I didn't see nothing. I didn't see anything, just

657
00:42:57.599 --> 00:43:02.559
heard the hooting. That's the most some Tumble've ever been.

658
00:43:03.519 --> 00:43:07.159
Yeah, I'd not be a fan of that either. I'd

659
00:43:07.199 --> 00:43:10.440
be like, yeah, I don't know. Guys like, yeah, how

660
00:43:10.480 --> 00:43:11.400
close were they getting?

661
00:43:11.519 --> 00:43:15.559
No, I don't. Yeah, you know, I don't. I don't know.

662
00:43:15.559 --> 00:43:18.480
And I said, I haven't heard the vocal vocalizations, but

663
00:43:18.639 --> 00:43:22.159
you know, thinking about it, I've heard some. Yeah, I

664
00:43:22.199 --> 00:43:25.159
couldn't tell you because I was I was just you know,

665
00:43:25.239 --> 00:43:27.159
I just know they were. It was closing in at

666
00:43:27.239 --> 00:43:28.840
the first one I heard was like it was a

667
00:43:28.840 --> 00:43:31.039
good distance away. Not that's what maybe I was thinking

668
00:43:31.079 --> 00:43:33.320
it was an now, but it's eleven o'clock in the morning,

669
00:43:33.920 --> 00:43:38.679
you know. And as time went on, and I say this,

670
00:43:38.679 --> 00:43:44.920
this probably went on for fifteen minutes because they it

671
00:43:45.079 --> 00:43:47.760
wasn't they wasn't gone. They wasn't They was not gone

672
00:43:48.400 --> 00:43:52.119
three minutes before the first hoot went out. And what

673
00:43:52.159 --> 00:43:57.480
I'm thinking is either they didn't know because I was

674
00:43:57.480 --> 00:44:01.199
in the tent, so I'm I don't think they knew

675
00:44:01.800 --> 00:44:05.320
I was even there. They were, you know, I think

676
00:44:05.360 --> 00:44:07.519
they were coming to check the camp out. So they

677
00:44:07.559 --> 00:44:10.519
see me bolted out the tent and get in the car.

678
00:44:11.239 --> 00:44:15.400
Then they were like, wait a minute, whoops. And they

679
00:44:15.440 --> 00:44:18.880
never they never, they never showed themselves. I don't know

680
00:44:18.920 --> 00:44:20.400
what I would have done if I'd have saw three

681
00:44:20.440 --> 00:44:22.199
or four of them creasers walk up in the camp.

682
00:44:24.360 --> 00:44:25.480
You know, I don't know what I.

683
00:44:25.480 --> 00:44:29.800
Would have done, man, you know that kind of thing.

684
00:44:29.840 --> 00:44:32.960
It's like your your view of the world is going

685
00:44:33.039 --> 00:44:34.480
to change a little bit, you know.

686
00:44:34.599 --> 00:44:42.360
It's yeah, yeah, I've not had a visual yet myself,

687
00:44:42.440 --> 00:44:49.840
but I mean I've had I've heard vocals that have.

688
00:44:51.639 --> 00:44:56.079
Sent me from well, it was it was the vocalizations

689
00:44:56.079 --> 00:45:00.920
that sent me from belief to realization pretty much, and

690
00:45:00.960 --> 00:45:03.719
it was just like, oh my goodness. So you've you've

691
00:45:03.760 --> 00:45:08.840
mentioned how you did have some visuals in the past.

692
00:45:08.960 --> 00:45:11.000
Is that the main time when you were able to

693
00:45:11.039 --> 00:45:14.519
have a visual of one or were there any other

694
00:45:15.239 --> 00:45:18.159
events as as well where you've had a visual of

695
00:45:18.239 --> 00:45:22.559
something big for society? Will be right back after these messages.

696
00:45:39.320 --> 00:45:41.679
See, I had like lately, I have like all right,

697
00:45:41.760 --> 00:45:45.360
so for a while I had got out of Bigfoot research. Sure,

698
00:45:45.840 --> 00:45:49.840
it ain't that I didn't believe or watch certain things,

699
00:45:50.000 --> 00:45:52.840
look things up. I kind of just you know, life,

700
00:45:53.480 --> 00:45:57.719
trying to get life together and stuff like that. So

701
00:45:58.119 --> 00:46:02.320
I kind of back, I'm backed away from actually getting

702
00:46:02.320 --> 00:46:05.079
out there doing it. The team members. Two of the

703
00:46:05.119 --> 00:46:07.960
team members that the founding team members passed away. Of

704
00:46:08.039 --> 00:46:10.000
that group, a lot of you know, a lot of

705
00:46:10.000 --> 00:46:14.519
the members were older, you know, so it kind of

706
00:46:14.559 --> 00:46:20.000
like just fizzled out. Now there were two members because

707
00:46:20.000 --> 00:46:22.920
we were at one point we were trying to revamp

708
00:46:23.039 --> 00:46:25.960
the team, and there were two members in there that

709
00:46:26.119 --> 00:46:28.840
after we kind of we kind of fell, didn't fall,

710
00:46:29.400 --> 00:46:31.639
I want to say, fall apart, but just wasn't able

711
00:46:31.639 --> 00:46:34.159
to get out there like we were. But two of

712
00:46:34.199 --> 00:46:37.360
the members, you know, did start their own research team

713
00:46:37.440 --> 00:46:40.320
and they've been researching for a while and they joined

714
00:46:40.320 --> 00:46:43.880
with other teams with another team, and one of our

715
00:46:44.159 --> 00:46:48.679
you know, founding members have passed away also. And I've

716
00:46:48.719 --> 00:46:51.559
been researching with this group here lately for the past

717
00:46:51.639 --> 00:46:54.159
I guess it's been it's been almost two years now,

718
00:46:54.199 --> 00:46:59.360
maybe three. I've been researching with them. Now. I haven't

719
00:46:59.360 --> 00:47:06.800
seen anything and yet, heard some rumblings you know in

720
00:47:06.840 --> 00:47:09.480
the in the in the brush, but I haven't seen

721
00:47:09.519 --> 00:47:15.320
anything yet. Yeah. All my visuals have been between eighty nine. Well,

722
00:47:15.320 --> 00:47:18.079
I'll say that my first one was like like ninety two,

723
00:47:18.199 --> 00:47:21.480
ninety three, ninety somewhere around in that time period, and

724
00:47:21.960 --> 00:47:24.679
like five years after that. Those are only two.

725
00:47:26.239 --> 00:47:29.039
So when you're going out now with this other group,

726
00:47:29.159 --> 00:47:32.079
is it researching the same area or is it a

727
00:47:32.119 --> 00:47:33.119
new area.

728
00:47:33.960 --> 00:47:37.039
It's a it's a it's a different location. It is

729
00:47:37.079 --> 00:47:41.599
a different location, and it is there's been a lot

730
00:47:41.760 --> 00:47:51.079
of sidings bigfoot sidings and other things also that has

731
00:47:51.119 --> 00:47:56.760
been in this particular area. Yeah, yeah, now that's now.

732
00:47:56.800 --> 00:48:02.800
That's you know, what's what I find interesting is and

733
00:48:03.039 --> 00:48:06.960
I can't It's like, I can't help but compare because

734
00:48:07.000 --> 00:48:12.480
there it's such a vast difference. When I started, you know,

735
00:48:14.079 --> 00:48:21.840
you had to either cold call somebody and hope they

736
00:48:21.880 --> 00:48:27.880
would talk to you, versus now everybody is talking about bigfoot.

737
00:48:29.280 --> 00:48:32.679
There are so many research groups, there are so many

738
00:48:33.280 --> 00:48:37.079
you know, it's just it's like a cultural phenomenon now.

739
00:48:37.920 --> 00:48:41.400
I mean, you got bigfoot everywhere, and that is so

740
00:48:41.760 --> 00:48:45.440
strange to me. You know, I'm glad that it's at

741
00:48:45.480 --> 00:48:49.079
the forefront, but it's at the same time, I'm like,

742
00:48:49.840 --> 00:48:52.440
if it's that much in our culture, what is the

743
00:48:52.519 --> 00:48:55.079
problem with going ahead to say that this thing exists?

744
00:48:56.400 --> 00:48:56.719
Right?

745
00:48:57.199 --> 00:49:01.320
You know, we we have you know, so you know,

746
00:49:01.320 --> 00:49:04.119
I get and I you know, at work, of course,

747
00:49:04.159 --> 00:49:06.400
you got people that want to ridicule and stuff like that,

748
00:49:06.480 --> 00:49:08.360
and you know, I don't kind of buy into it.

749
00:49:08.400 --> 00:49:10.639
I just you know, they'll ask I tell them, tell

750
00:49:10.679 --> 00:49:12.760
them the truth. I'll tell them what I think. You know,

751
00:49:13.000 --> 00:49:15.400
they can like it or not. They're like, well, why

752
00:49:15.400 --> 00:49:18.559
ain't they got one? I said, I'm pretty sure they do. Well,

753
00:49:18.559 --> 00:49:20.639
how come they ain't letting it out? Because folks like you,

754
00:49:20.639 --> 00:49:23.760
you go you y'all go crazy. They say this thing exists.

755
00:49:24.119 --> 00:49:25.360
Next thing, you know, you got to be a hundred

756
00:49:25.360 --> 00:49:27.239
folks out there in the dang woods trying to see one.

757
00:49:27.760 --> 00:49:29.360
And then when it throw, when they hit throw you out,

758
00:49:29.440 --> 00:49:30.679
and when they throw a rock at you hit you

759
00:49:30.679 --> 00:49:34.280
inside the head, then then then you're going then you

760
00:49:34.320 --> 00:49:36.800
want to shoot everything. I was like no, I was like,

761
00:49:37.320 --> 00:49:42.400
they're out there. I said, you know, there's we got

762
00:49:42.760 --> 00:49:46.960
so we got so much evidence. We know what it does.

763
00:49:47.079 --> 00:49:49.320
We know where they live, we know how We pretty

764
00:49:49.400 --> 00:49:51.880
much know how they live. We pretty much know their diet,

765
00:49:52.400 --> 00:49:56.119
we pretty much know their size, their weight, we kind

766
00:49:56.119 --> 00:49:58.960
of know their attitude. We know everything. We just don't

767
00:49:58.960 --> 00:50:04.960
have a body. And I honestly think there are some

768
00:50:06.679 --> 00:50:11.960
that are in captivity, so to speak. It ain't that's

769
00:50:12.199 --> 00:50:14.800
it ain't that they're in a cage, but they're in

770
00:50:14.920 --> 00:50:19.239
protected forest lands that you're not allowed to go into.

771
00:50:21.119 --> 00:50:26.960
They're being watched, they're being monitored, they're being studied before

772
00:50:27.000 --> 00:50:30.440
they come out. And I think that's the same thing

773
00:50:30.480 --> 00:50:32.639
they did with a gorilla from the first reporter siding

774
00:50:32.639 --> 00:50:36.440
of a gorilla to its capture. You're talking one hundred

775
00:50:36.480 --> 00:50:38.119
and fifty years, almost two hundred years.

776
00:50:41.719 --> 00:50:45.000
That's very interesting, Tony. But you know, thinking about it

777
00:50:45.039 --> 00:50:48.840
for a little bit right now, I mean, I don't

778
00:50:48.840 --> 00:50:50.559
think it's out of the question, but you would have

779
00:50:50.599 --> 00:50:53.800
to have massive amounts of land that could be shut

780
00:50:53.840 --> 00:50:56.760
down to the public exactly.

781
00:50:56.960 --> 00:51:02.159
Hence are national forest there are places in a national

782
00:51:02.239 --> 00:51:05.000
force that are not the public is not allowed to

783
00:51:05.000 --> 00:51:12.440
be not even that. How about this in Washington State

784
00:51:12.519 --> 00:51:15.400
and Oregon they got big foot crossing signs.

785
00:51:15.599 --> 00:51:18.559
Oh true, true, Yeah, yeah they do, they do. It's

786
00:51:18.599 --> 00:51:21.719
in the culture out there, no no question about it.

787
00:51:21.760 --> 00:51:26.880
But can you think of of specific areas that that

788
00:51:26.960 --> 00:51:30.559
you've heard of in national forces that are shut down

789
00:51:30.679 --> 00:51:35.039
to people not being able to go into them, or.

790
00:51:35.159 --> 00:51:38.800
If if I'm not mistaken, there are parts of Yellowstone

791
00:51:38.840 --> 00:51:39.400
that's like that.

792
00:51:39.679 --> 00:51:41.119
Okay, yeah, I think you're right.

793
00:51:41.239 --> 00:51:45.199
Yeah there, what's it? Mount Saint Helen's that some of

794
00:51:45.360 --> 00:51:50.559
some of that is shut down. I don't I don't

795
00:51:50.559 --> 00:51:54.639
know exactly the places, but there are you know, specific

796
00:51:54.760 --> 00:51:59.400
locations where you know you can't go on and and

797
00:51:59.519 --> 00:52:03.000
and also there's some national force lands where you can't

798
00:52:03.039 --> 00:52:03.920
carry a firearm.

799
00:52:04.960 --> 00:52:12.360
True, that is true. It is a It is a

800
00:52:12.480 --> 00:52:17.800
very interesting thought and be interesting to see where people

801
00:52:18.559 --> 00:52:22.519
could take that. Maybe they have examples of their very

802
00:52:22.639 --> 00:52:25.920
own of places and different national force that they could

803
00:52:25.960 --> 00:52:28.360
put maybe in the comics on YouTube. Who knows. But

804
00:52:29.000 --> 00:52:34.320
I also man, so it's going to air in twenty

805
00:52:34.360 --> 00:52:37.679
twenty five, of course, I think that pretty soon we're

806
00:52:37.719 --> 00:52:41.840
probably going to get a whole ton of information on

807
00:52:42.079 --> 00:52:44.880
stuff in the sky. We'll leave it at that. My

808
00:52:46.480 --> 00:52:54.079
personal Bigfoot podcaster on is I think if we're going

809
00:52:54.159 --> 00:52:57.559
to get stuff in the sky soon, the chances of

810
00:52:57.679 --> 00:53:00.559
us getting stuff on the ground by the end of

811
00:53:00.559 --> 00:53:05.280
this year is so high, it is absolutely high. I mean,

812
00:53:05.920 --> 00:53:08.559
it just it just makes sense. Like I think what

813
00:53:08.599 --> 00:53:12.320
it's going to take is the right person needs to

814
00:53:12.360 --> 00:53:15.920
have the connection with the current president in twenty twenty

815
00:53:15.960 --> 00:53:19.920
five or the incoming president and be like, hey, you know,

816
00:53:20.039 --> 00:53:23.079
while you're while you're putting all this other stuff out there,

817
00:53:23.159 --> 00:53:25.360
you know, the stuff up in the sky. Why don't

818
00:53:25.400 --> 00:53:27.800
we just throw some of this, you know, bigfoot stuff

819
00:53:27.800 --> 00:53:29.440
out there too. They can handle it.

820
00:53:29.559 --> 00:53:30.400
Yeah, I could see it.

821
00:53:30.440 --> 00:53:32.719
I mean, it's going to take the right person, maybe

822
00:53:32.719 --> 00:53:34.800
that listens to this podcast, that could be like, hey,

823
00:53:35.519 --> 00:53:38.119
President Trump, let's let's throw it out there. See what happens.

824
00:53:38.199 --> 00:53:39.880
I don't know, that's just me talking, but.

825
00:53:41.400 --> 00:53:46.519
Yeah, the right person with the right connection exactly exactly.

826
00:53:47.559 --> 00:53:51.039
And and you know, and I honestly, honestly think with

827
00:53:51.039 --> 00:53:56.920
with people like Vacdner, Jeffrey Meldrum, you know, and scientists

828
00:53:57.119 --> 00:54:03.679
like him that are making the subject seriously, you know

829
00:54:03.840 --> 00:54:06.880
that that adds weight to it. And you know, in

830
00:54:06.920 --> 00:54:10.239
this and beforehand there was doctor Grover kranz Ye, you know,

831
00:54:11.039 --> 00:54:15.159
and that adds weight to the subject of Bigfoot. I

832
00:54:15.159 --> 00:54:17.760
think one of the one of the one of the

833
00:54:17.800 --> 00:54:22.639
main issues with putting it out there as a viable

834
00:54:22.719 --> 00:54:26.880
creature is the name bigfoot, just the just the sheer

835
00:54:26.960 --> 00:54:30.039
name of it, you know. And I think that just

836
00:54:30.119 --> 00:54:31.599
makes it I don't know, I don't want to say

837
00:54:31.639 --> 00:54:34.800
it makes it comical, but it's it's it's a name

838
00:54:34.840 --> 00:54:39.599
that's hard to take seriously. Like you know sasquatch or

839
00:54:39.679 --> 00:54:43.679
some other super long name that they're attached to it,

840
00:54:44.239 --> 00:54:47.199
you know, because the gorilla is something it's not actually

841
00:54:47.280 --> 00:54:49.800
you know, scientifically it's not called the gorilla. It's called

842
00:54:49.840 --> 00:54:53.840
something else, but it's a long name or something. You know.

843
00:54:55.559 --> 00:54:58.559
No, I mean, what will happen is is most definitely

844
00:54:58.639 --> 00:55:02.360
if it gets to the point where it's discovered by

845
00:55:02.480 --> 00:55:05.679
science and it's proven by science, they will give it

846
00:55:05.760 --> 00:55:10.199
a scientific name, and it will it won't be called

847
00:55:11.679 --> 00:55:14.920
it'll be called bigfoot by half the people and the

848
00:55:15.039 --> 00:55:19.599
other half will you know, it'll who even knows what

849
00:55:19.760 --> 00:55:22.599
kind of weird name it'll have then scientifically, yeah, be

850
00:55:22.679 --> 00:55:26.400
like North American maybe even who knows they might even

851
00:55:26.400 --> 00:55:29.119
go with North American? Would a buting like that, But

852
00:55:29.519 --> 00:55:32.480
you know you've kind of alluded to it already. But

853
00:55:32.880 --> 00:55:36.159
just to just to bring up the question, So you

854
00:55:36.360 --> 00:55:39.880
studied Bigfoot for all these years, there's so many different

855
00:55:39.920 --> 00:55:43.519
ways to look at what Bigfoot could be. What is

856
00:55:43.599 --> 00:55:46.639
your your personal view of what we're dealing with when

857
00:55:46.719 --> 00:55:49.599
we're looking for Bigfoot out there.

858
00:55:51.079 --> 00:55:54.800
Now? A lot of my teammates and a lot of

859
00:55:54.880 --> 00:55:57.639
modern researchers, I think, but are not going to agree

860
00:55:57.679 --> 00:56:01.320
with me on this one, But I honestly think we're

861
00:56:01.320 --> 00:56:09.440
dealing with a flesh and blood bipedal primate, nothing more,

862
00:56:09.599 --> 00:56:14.360
nothing less. You know. I don't think they come from

863
00:56:14.400 --> 00:56:19.039
another planet. I don't think there spiritual being. I just

864
00:56:19.119 --> 00:56:26.000
think they are a and and another upright walking ape. Now,

865
00:56:26.480 --> 00:56:35.079
having said that, there is an extreme intelligence level. But chimps, apes,

866
00:56:35.760 --> 00:56:42.920
all primates are intelligent. They are super intelligent. What makes

867
00:56:43.039 --> 00:56:47.119
a sasquatch seem to be more intelligent is it just

868
00:56:47.239 --> 00:56:51.079
walks upright like us when we go into the woods,

869
00:56:52.519 --> 00:56:57.719
when what we're expecting to see is a horizontal line

870
00:56:57.760 --> 00:57:01.559
in the woods, that tells us that's an animal. You know,

871
00:57:01.840 --> 00:57:08.280
everything else is upright except animals. They are horizontal. So

872
00:57:08.320 --> 00:57:10.679
when you see something horizontal moving through the woods, you

873
00:57:10.719 --> 00:57:14.039
can bet your that's pretty much a wild animal or

874
00:57:14.039 --> 00:57:19.360
a fallen tree. However, with a sasquatch, you're looking at

875
00:57:19.360 --> 00:57:22.760
something upright, so he's not You're not going to see

876
00:57:22.840 --> 00:57:25.199
him as easily as you would see a deer walking

877
00:57:25.199 --> 00:57:28.960
through the woods or a bear or anything like that,

878
00:57:29.280 --> 00:57:32.320
because it's walking upright. The only time you see it

879
00:57:32.480 --> 00:57:38.079
if it's moving. You know, one of my favorite bigfoot

880
00:57:38.079 --> 00:57:44.000
footage other than the Patterson film is the Freedman film

881
00:57:44.039 --> 00:57:48.039
where he's following the track and he looks up and

882
00:57:48.079 --> 00:57:52.079
there it is, just walking through the brook through the brush.

883
00:57:52.599 --> 00:57:55.960
Looks back at him like like what are you doing here?

884
00:57:56.079 --> 00:58:00.599
And keeps keeps on walking, and mister Friedman's heard saying

885
00:58:00.880 --> 00:58:05.800
there he goes, there he goes. You know, that's what

886
00:58:05.880 --> 00:58:09.599
we're looking at? Is an a That's what that's my

887
00:58:10.280 --> 00:58:13.800
personal opinion on what a sasquatch.

888
00:58:13.280 --> 00:58:20.840
Is that that is that's very interesting mine is I

889
00:58:20.880 --> 00:58:26.079
would say at this point right now, it's definitely I

890
00:58:26.360 --> 00:58:34.320
do believe it's some sort of physical creature. I'm going

891
00:58:34.400 --> 00:58:36.880
to turn this into a question before I say the

892
00:58:36.920 --> 00:58:41.039
next part. So how if you if you know you're

893
00:58:41.079 --> 00:58:46.440
believing that you're dealing with physical creature primate, how do

894
00:58:46.519 --> 00:58:51.920
you deal with the reports that come in where it's

895
00:58:52.039 --> 00:58:57.679
just some really really out of left field things that

896
00:58:57.719 --> 00:59:01.199
are reported when these creeds are around.

897
00:59:02.320 --> 00:59:06.519
Okay, so on some of it, I just simply say

898
00:59:06.559 --> 00:59:10.000
I have no idea. I am not afraid to say

899
00:59:10.320 --> 00:59:13.559
I don't know, and you know, I'm not going to

900
00:59:13.639 --> 00:59:21.039
try to discredit or brush off what somebody claims that

901
00:59:21.119 --> 00:59:25.119
they saw. You know, that's that's not when I'm why

902
00:59:25.159 --> 00:59:27.320
I'm here. You know, that's not what I'm trying to do.

903
00:59:27.920 --> 00:59:33.840
There are instances of misidentification, which I understand that. Now

904
00:59:34.239 --> 00:59:39.039
there are where you'll have a lot of bigfoot sightings

905
00:59:39.280 --> 00:59:41.880
and then you'll have in connection with that, you'll have

906
00:59:42.039 --> 00:59:46.559
a lot of UFO sidings, which people will tend to

907
00:59:46.639 --> 00:59:51.599
say there is a bigfoot UFO connection. All right. My

908
00:59:51.800 --> 00:59:59.400
argument with that is in that same area where there

909
00:59:59.480 --> 01:00:06.039
is a heightened UFO reports, there are also deer. There

910
01:00:06.039 --> 01:00:10.199
are also bear, There are also other wild animals in

911
01:00:10.320 --> 01:00:16.719
that same area where you got this UFO phenomenon going on. So,

912
01:00:18.559 --> 01:00:22.800
but we're looking for bigfoot in this area, or a

913
01:00:22.840 --> 01:00:26.159
bigfoot has been sighted in this area, does that mean

914
01:00:26.719 --> 01:00:31.280
that there's a connection between bigfoot and the UFO? And

915
01:00:31.360 --> 01:00:35.880
if if we can deduce that there's a connection between

916
01:00:35.880 --> 01:00:39.360
bigfoot and the UFO, then wouldn't couldn't we also deduce

917
01:00:39.440 --> 01:00:46.440
that there is a deer UFO connection also? You follow

918
01:00:46.480 --> 01:00:47.280
what I'm saying.

919
01:00:47.599 --> 01:00:48.360
I get you.

920
01:00:48.639 --> 01:00:52.360
Sure, Yeah, there are there where where where where there

921
01:00:52.400 --> 01:00:54.920
are UFO sightings at a lot of them, there is

922
01:00:55.000 --> 01:01:00.480
also wild animals. There and if Bigfoot is a wild

923
01:01:00.519 --> 01:01:05.880
animal like a deer, a bear or anything like that,

924
01:01:06.519 --> 01:01:10.920
then the you know, would there be a connection or

925
01:01:10.960 --> 01:01:13.119
is it just happens that the Bigfoot is in the

926
01:01:13.119 --> 01:01:16.119
same area where there's a UFO, just like the deer,

927
01:01:16.320 --> 01:01:19.760
the bear or any other wild animal. Hmm.

928
01:01:20.599 --> 01:01:22.559
That's that's interesting to think about for.

929
01:01:22.559 --> 01:01:27.800
Sure, because you know there's you got like for example,

930
01:01:27.840 --> 01:01:29.760
Gettysburg right.

931
01:01:30.119 --> 01:01:33.400
Big for society who will be right back after these messages.

932
01:01:48.920 --> 01:01:52.039
The you know, the ghost of Gettysburg in that battlefield

933
01:01:52.079 --> 01:01:55.239
and all that. You see all these paranormal things going on,

934
01:01:55.719 --> 01:01:59.199
but there's deer there also, there's other wild animals there,

935
01:02:00.519 --> 01:02:03.960
and these things are going to happen whether the animals

936
01:02:03.960 --> 01:02:07.559
there or not. You know, that'd be the same thing

937
01:02:07.639 --> 01:02:10.679
with if a Bigfoot was in the area. Yeah, there's

938
01:02:10.760 --> 01:02:14.039
paranormal activity going on there, but these things would happen

939
01:02:14.039 --> 01:02:17.039
if Bigfoot there was is there or not. We just

940
01:02:17.079 --> 01:02:20.960
saw we just so happened to be researching Bigfoot in

941
01:02:20.960 --> 01:02:22.840
the area where there's paranormal going on.

942
01:02:25.320 --> 01:02:32.119
Sure you had mentioned something earlier where and I'm not

943
01:02:32.159 --> 01:02:35.239
sure if I if I heard it correctly, but it

944
01:02:35.320 --> 01:02:37.239
almost sounded like you were talking about one of the

945
01:02:37.280 --> 01:02:43.199
areas that you were researching not only had Bigfoot, but

946
01:02:43.239 --> 01:02:46.400
maybe other creatures as well being seen.

947
01:02:48.039 --> 01:02:52.800
Yeah, where we're currently researching, there's been some paranormal activity

948
01:02:52.840 --> 01:02:59.519
going on, reports of a dog man thing something like that.

949
01:03:00.079 --> 01:03:06.159
Other like other cryptids like Bigfoot, ghost ufo, sidings, orbs,

950
01:03:08.119 --> 01:03:15.159
high strained stuff like that, which me personally, I think

951
01:03:15.199 --> 01:03:19.159
it's I think a lot of that is spiritual stuff.

952
01:03:19.199 --> 01:03:21.800
And I like to say, for me, I take a

953
01:03:21.840 --> 01:03:26.199
biblical approach to a lot of this stuff. I think

954
01:03:26.239 --> 01:03:33.079
a lot of the paranormal, the orbs, UFOs, these varying cryptids,

955
01:03:34.360 --> 01:03:37.559
I think that, you know, come from a spiritual aspect.

956
01:03:38.239 --> 01:03:40.840
I mean absolutely, I mean, you know, as in the

957
01:03:40.920 --> 01:03:44.400
days of Noah, right, I mean, weird stuff is going

958
01:03:44.480 --> 01:03:46.639
to start to come out, and I don't think it's

959
01:03:46.639 --> 01:03:50.480
going to get any less crazy further.

960
01:03:51.320 --> 01:03:56.760
You know, and I think it's going to be it's

961
01:03:56.800 --> 01:03:59.320
gonna come out more, you know. I'd like to put

962
01:03:59.320 --> 01:04:04.480
it this way. The devil used to hide his ways,

963
01:04:05.599 --> 01:04:09.320
Now he does. It's it's it's open so just doing

964
01:04:09.440 --> 01:04:17.559
stuff and because it's accepted now, you know, it's people

965
01:04:17.599 --> 01:04:21.119
are more accepting. And what I mean by accepting acceptance

966
01:04:21.320 --> 01:04:25.639
is they're they're open to it. They you know, they

967
01:04:26.039 --> 01:04:29.960
believe it, they see it, you know, Versus before it

968
01:04:30.000 --> 01:04:33.639
would be taboo to talk about something like that. It'd

969
01:04:33.639 --> 01:04:37.760
be you know now that it would be shut down immediately.

970
01:04:38.440 --> 01:04:42.239
Versus now people are, yeah, that could that could be it,

971
01:04:42.280 --> 01:04:45.079
that can exist, that can happen that, you know, So

972
01:04:45.159 --> 01:04:48.719
it's just it's open. And what I think this is,

973
01:04:49.079 --> 01:04:56.440
you know, is you have I'm gonna say, divine beings

974
01:04:59.360 --> 01:05:06.559
doing a RepA of the days of Noah with mixing things,

975
01:05:06.559 --> 01:05:10.400
corrupting God's creation so to speak. You know, how everything

976
01:05:10.440 --> 01:05:13.519
is to reproduce after its own kind. The seeds are

977
01:05:13.559 --> 01:05:15.840
not supposed to be mixed, and I think you're having

978
01:05:16.320 --> 01:05:19.800
mixing of seeds going on. Hence that's a dog man,

979
01:05:20.880 --> 01:05:25.280
you know, a canine mixed with something to make it

980
01:05:25.360 --> 01:05:27.880
be able to walk on two legs rather than four.

981
01:05:28.800 --> 01:05:35.440
Were wolves, you know, humanoid creatures, not Bigfoot, but other

982
01:05:36.039 --> 01:05:38.840
humanoid that just you know, you look at them. You

983
01:05:38.840 --> 01:05:41.320
can't what that, you can't even describe what you're looking at.

984
01:05:41.559 --> 01:05:45.360
Things like that, you know, that are able to appear

985
01:05:45.719 --> 01:05:49.960
and then disappear. You know, I think we're dealing. I

986
01:05:49.960 --> 01:05:53.239
think we're you know, we're seeing a lot of this stuff.

987
01:05:56.440 --> 01:05:59.800
It is so interesting because you know, you mentioned that

988
01:06:01.559 --> 01:06:03.960
the devil really doesn't seem to be hiding it anymore,

989
01:06:04.519 --> 01:06:08.880
but yet it feels like there are other people trying

990
01:06:08.880 --> 01:06:10.320
to hide it, you know what I mean?

991
01:06:11.360 --> 01:06:16.599
Yeah, yeah, because they don't know what to do with it. Yeah,

992
01:06:16.679 --> 01:06:18.559
I think, you know, honestly, they just don't know what

993
01:06:18.599 --> 01:06:20.840
to do with it. You got this stuff out there.

994
01:06:21.519 --> 01:06:27.280
Just for example, if you if you was to you

995
01:06:27.400 --> 01:06:30.480
take if you had a big foot encounter, you know,

996
01:06:30.679 --> 01:06:33.519
just say one walked across the road right in front

997
01:06:33.559 --> 01:06:37.400
of you, and you don't have an outlet where you

998
01:06:37.400 --> 01:06:43.559
can share your experience confidently, without ridicule, without looking being

999
01:06:43.880 --> 01:06:46.239
you know, looked at a certain way. You just you

1000
01:06:46.280 --> 01:06:50.360
wouldn't share it. You would try to rationalize it away.

1001
01:06:51.599 --> 01:06:53.440
And I think that's where a lot of people are.

1002
01:06:54.360 --> 01:06:59.679
And you know, one of their outlets fortunately is like

1003
01:06:59.719 --> 01:07:03.599
a part podcast like yours. All of the Bigfoot Research group.

1004
01:07:03.679 --> 01:07:06.559
People are people are open, you know, it creates an

1005
01:07:06.559 --> 01:07:11.679
avenue for people to explain what they've saught, what they've seen. Sure,

1006
01:07:12.800 --> 01:07:15.960
because people are seeing stuff people, I'm not going to

1007
01:07:16.039 --> 01:07:21.199
deny people are seeing things. But when I believe they're

1008
01:07:21.239 --> 01:07:26.000
seeing is not what they think they're seeing. I believe

1009
01:07:26.000 --> 01:07:31.599
it's manifesting in a way that to them they can eat.

1010
01:07:31.679 --> 01:07:33.920
It's a it's able to be explained as to what

1011
01:07:34.000 --> 01:07:36.599
it is well that they're seeing. But I think it's

1012
01:07:36.639 --> 01:07:41.960
all have has a I want to see a spiritual

1013
01:07:42.599 --> 01:07:44.800
background to it to some degree.

1014
01:07:45.440 --> 01:07:53.840
M it's it's there can be such an interesting conversation

1015
01:07:54.079 --> 01:07:56.719
when you're you're talking about that, I would assume you're

1016
01:07:56.840 --> 01:07:59.199
you're probably talking about things that are not Bigfoot.

1017
01:08:00.719 --> 01:08:04.960
Yeah, yeah, because you know, I think Bigfoot honestly, I

1018
01:08:05.039 --> 01:08:08.199
just I really believe Bigfoot is just like a deer

1019
01:08:08.559 --> 01:08:12.079
or a bear that's in our forest. But there are

1020
01:08:12.159 --> 01:08:15.280
other things that's attached to Bigfoot that I'm gonna say

1021
01:08:15.400 --> 01:08:20.520
that we have attached to Bigfoot because there's still some

1022
01:08:20.560 --> 01:08:24.399
things we don't understand about the creature itself. One thing

1023
01:08:24.399 --> 01:08:27.560
in particular is how you can follow a track line

1024
01:08:27.560 --> 01:08:31.920
and it just disappeared. You know, I don't know what

1025
01:08:32.079 --> 01:08:37.880
happens to it, so but I must say I don't know.

1026
01:08:39.720 --> 01:08:43.600
But there are others who will say, well, maybe maybe

1027
01:08:43.640 --> 01:08:48.199
it walked through a portal. Maybe it dematerialized, maybe it

1028
01:08:48.560 --> 01:08:55.119
blinked out of this reality, you know, and those other

1029
01:08:55.520 --> 01:09:00.600
explanations come because we don't know what happened to do

1030
01:09:00.720 --> 01:09:05.920
We don't know why the track line disappeared, you know it.

1031
01:09:06.119 --> 01:09:08.279
Did it go down on all fours and begin to walk?

1032
01:09:08.319 --> 01:09:10.560
Did it climb up a tree? Did it? You know?

1033
01:09:11.239 --> 01:09:17.720
So there are still certain mysteries about Bigfoot that we

1034
01:09:17.800 --> 01:09:22.039
have yet to grab a hold of or grasp so

1035
01:09:22.159 --> 01:09:25.039
a lot of other things I think get attached to

1036
01:09:25.159 --> 01:09:28.199
Bigfoot because of those mysteries that we don't have the

1037
01:09:28.279 --> 01:09:29.319
understanding of yet.

1038
01:09:30.359 --> 01:09:33.159
Oh yeah, I mean absolutely, And I think that's that's

1039
01:09:33.199 --> 01:09:36.079
part of the allure of it. But I mean, I'm

1040
01:09:36.159 --> 01:09:40.760
thinking just to my own experience. I mean, I in

1041
01:09:40.840 --> 01:09:43.840
Oregon this summer, I did there was it. I was

1042
01:09:43.880 --> 01:09:46.680
sitting in a chair in an area that was extremely

1043
01:09:46.720 --> 01:09:50.039
active for about like five minutes. I couldn't move out

1044
01:09:50.079 --> 01:09:52.920
of the chair. That was very strange.

1045
01:09:53.399 --> 01:09:53.720
Wow.

1046
01:09:54.000 --> 01:09:57.399
Yeah, And I don't know, maybe that was some infrat sound.

1047
01:09:57.479 --> 01:10:00.520
But there's like there's so many questions. You know, there's

1048
01:10:00.920 --> 01:10:03.960
the whole infrasound thing. There's people that claim that they

1049
01:10:04.000 --> 01:10:09.000
get you know, telepathic communications or people that start to

1050
01:10:09.039 --> 01:10:13.039
have weird things happen at home after they've been in

1051
01:10:13.119 --> 01:10:16.720
an area that is active where they've had a sighting,

1052
01:10:16.800 --> 01:10:19.600
they start to have, you know, paranormal type things happen

1053
01:10:19.640 --> 01:10:23.439
at home, Like what is the connection there? Is very interesting?

1054
01:10:24.439 --> 01:10:27.279
Yeah, and I'll tell you I don't have an answer

1055
01:10:27.359 --> 01:10:30.439
for it that I don't know. And like that now

1056
01:10:30.479 --> 01:10:34.239
that infrasound, I find that very interesting because big flank

1057
01:10:34.279 --> 01:10:39.199
the only creature that has infrasound. Right, Tigers have infrasound,

1058
01:10:39.399 --> 01:10:43.159
and they're purposeful with it, like you know, if you know,

1059
01:10:43.199 --> 01:10:47.159
I'm sure you've heard your cat per right, that same

1060
01:10:47.359 --> 01:10:52.319
per coming from a tiger produces an infrasound because it's

1061
01:10:52.319 --> 01:10:58.720
so deep and low. Elephants have infrasound. You know, any

1062
01:10:59.000 --> 01:11:05.399
large mammal or an animal that has a larger large

1063
01:11:05.560 --> 01:11:11.479
lung capacity will produce infrasound. Sometimes, you know, some animals

1064
01:11:11.880 --> 01:11:16.199
use it intentionally, like when the lion roars and it

1065
01:11:16.279 --> 01:11:22.560
freezes things in the woods, that that's infrasound. Now, I

1066
01:11:22.600 --> 01:11:26.319
think by default, you you know, an organ so they

1067
01:11:26.439 --> 01:11:32.520
them the sasquatch out there grow big, they grow big.

1068
01:11:33.439 --> 01:11:37.800
I mean in Georgia, we're dealing with, you know, like

1069
01:11:37.840 --> 01:11:41.439
that twenty one. This track was big. But that's that's

1070
01:11:41.520 --> 01:11:45.520
a that's an anomaly because the average sightings here they're

1071
01:11:45.640 --> 01:11:48.760
roughly six to seven at the most eight feet tall,

1072
01:11:48.840 --> 01:11:54.560
and they're lanky. They probably weighed five six hundred pounds.

1073
01:11:54.560 --> 01:11:58.760
Maybe in Oregon they I'm pretty sure they get up

1074
01:11:58.760 --> 01:12:02.840
wards a nine hundred pound I want to say, I

1075
01:12:02.880 --> 01:12:06.479
think the tallest one on record, this was this was

1076
01:12:06.560 --> 01:12:10.319
a couple of years ago, was like thirteen feet tall,

1077
01:12:11.680 --> 01:12:16.920
probably weighing one thousand pounds. That thing's going to produce

1078
01:12:16.920 --> 01:12:21.960
some infra sound just in breathing, you know, and you're

1079
01:12:22.079 --> 01:12:26.680
and you're sitting in a chair and god knows how

1080
01:12:26.720 --> 01:12:30.239
many is around you that you just ain't seeing and

1081
01:12:30.279 --> 01:12:32.920
they're just breathing, and they got you locked in the

1082
01:12:33.000 --> 01:12:37.520
chair just because of that low rumbling infrasound.

1083
01:12:39.520 --> 01:12:40.039
Yeah, it was.

1084
01:12:40.439 --> 01:12:44.560
It was weird. It produces a fight or flight sensation.

1085
01:12:45.079 --> 01:12:49.279
It it'll it can paralyze you and make it gives

1086
01:12:49.319 --> 01:12:53.920
some people severe headaches, makes dizzy, can't hardly see, you know.

1087
01:12:54.439 --> 01:13:02.000
It affects it affects individuals differently. But the uh, the

1088
01:13:02.119 --> 01:13:04.600
aspect of when you go home and you're away from

1089
01:13:04.680 --> 01:13:11.840
it and paranormal stuff stirs up. I couldn't tell you.

1090
01:13:11.840 --> 01:13:17.600
You know, what I would think that is is there

1091
01:13:17.640 --> 01:13:22.920
is something demonic about whatever you encounter, if it even

1092
01:13:23.119 --> 01:13:29.039
was a bigfoot and not something else. And that's and

1093
01:13:29.039 --> 01:13:33.039
and and that's just again that's trying to, that's trying to,

1094
01:13:33.159 --> 01:13:38.640
that's speculating on a mystery, sure, exactly.

1095
01:13:38.840 --> 01:13:44.279
Yeah, yeah, it's just it's it's it's very very interesting.

1096
01:13:44.520 --> 01:13:50.159
What you know, people that have connections somehow to this

1097
01:13:50.520 --> 01:13:55.439
usually have other things happen in their life or are

1098
01:13:57.560 --> 01:14:01.479
connected somehow to other her normal type things. It's just

1099
01:14:01.560 --> 01:14:04.800
it's a very strange thing that I've noticed over the

1100
01:14:04.800 --> 01:14:07.920
different interviews that I've done, and you know, maybe we'll

1101
01:14:07.960 --> 01:14:10.319
never know why, but it is part of the mystery

1102
01:14:10.359 --> 01:14:10.760
for sure.

1103
01:14:12.359 --> 01:14:15.239
I think it's just really just really just mystery. It's like,

1104
01:14:15.399 --> 01:14:16.800
you know, I was interested in the luck and this

1105
01:14:16.960 --> 01:14:20.319
monster till you know, but I can't go to Scotland

1106
01:14:20.319 --> 01:14:23.079
to look for it, so, you know, I can just

1107
01:14:23.119 --> 01:14:25.680
read about it, and you know, I have my opinions

1108
01:14:25.680 --> 01:14:28.880
about what it is. But like my dad used to

1109
01:14:28.920 --> 01:14:31.760
tell us ghost stories all the time, he was able

1110
01:14:31.800 --> 01:14:35.760
to see them and he would tell us, Oh man,

1111
01:14:35.760 --> 01:14:37.800
he would tell us so many ghost stories. It's crazy

1112
01:14:37.800 --> 01:14:41.199
to have us up all night scared, just scared. But

1113
01:14:42.399 --> 01:14:46.560
and Bigfoot was just you know, sit up on a

1114
01:14:46.600 --> 01:14:49.279
Saturday night watch a Bigfoot movie. But it to me,

1115
01:14:51.239 --> 01:14:54.960
one of my favorite movies was Grizzly Adams, one of

1116
01:14:54.960 --> 01:15:00.640
my TV series. Rather, I love that show. I always

1117
01:15:00.680 --> 01:15:04.159
wondered why he never come in contact with a bigfoot.

1118
01:15:06.600 --> 01:15:09.039
He come in contact with every hand in the forest,

1119
01:15:09.119 --> 01:15:11.199
but he never came in contact with a bigfoot that

1120
01:15:11.239 --> 01:15:13.319
I have that I've in any of this, you know

1121
01:15:13.479 --> 01:15:18.479
that I know of huh, because I think that would

1122
01:15:18.520 --> 01:15:21.279
have been the to me, that would have been the

1123
01:15:21.279 --> 01:15:27.640
the greatest thing to me, because I've just never ms

1124
01:15:27.760 --> 01:15:30.920
V asked me a question on one of her podcasts

1125
01:15:30.960 --> 01:15:35.239
about the dark side of bigfoot, you know, people that

1126
01:15:35.279 --> 01:15:40.720
have been attacked and people going missing and and all that,

1127
01:15:41.279 --> 01:15:43.760
you know, and I've never thought about that. That that

1128
01:15:44.199 --> 01:15:45.880
she you know, she opened my eyes up to a

1129
01:15:45.920 --> 01:15:50.600
whole nother realm of this creature that I never even considered,

1130
01:15:51.720 --> 01:15:55.399
never considered. I knew you don't want to make them mad,

1131
01:15:57.039 --> 01:15:59.640
you know, I knew you. You know, you respect you

1132
01:15:59.640 --> 01:16:01.680
you know, when you go into the woods, you respect,

1133
01:16:01.800 --> 01:16:05.880
you respect the woods, you know. So I knew these

1134
01:16:06.000 --> 01:16:09.000
I knew that, but I've never looked at them as

1135
01:16:10.000 --> 01:16:13.199
out like a rogue when going mad and hurting people

1136
01:16:13.239 --> 01:16:15.039
and killing people.

1137
01:16:15.560 --> 01:16:18.359
Big for society. Who would be right back after these messages.

1138
01:16:34.399 --> 01:16:37.119
I never thought about that until she brought that up.

1139
01:16:38.000 --> 01:16:41.439
And you know, like me chasing that thing that was

1140
01:16:41.800 --> 01:16:44.640
that was if I'd have knew then what I know now,

1141
01:16:44.720 --> 01:16:47.760
that wouldn't have happened. You know, that would not have

1142
01:16:47.840 --> 01:16:51.880
happened at all. I wouldn't have left the people I

1143
01:16:52.000 --> 01:16:54.840
was with. I'd have just, oh, you see that, let's

1144
01:16:54.880 --> 01:16:57.640
see if we can follow the tracks type thing. I

1145
01:16:57.720 --> 01:17:00.479
never would have chased it. There's been other times were

1146
01:17:00.800 --> 01:17:04.079
took off after it, you know, when they come around camp.

1147
01:17:04.600 --> 01:17:10.800
But I never would have done that. But the possibility

1148
01:17:10.880 --> 01:17:15.359
of these creatures, because again Rick Dillon was a wild animal.

1149
01:17:15.680 --> 01:17:20.720
We don't know what it will do a lot of times,

1150
01:17:20.760 --> 01:17:25.199
and I have fallen into this where I think I

1151
01:17:25.279 --> 01:17:28.600
know what it'll do. You know, I believe I know

1152
01:17:28.640 --> 01:17:30.520
what it'll do. But the truth of the matter is

1153
01:17:30.640 --> 01:17:33.279
I do not know what it will do. I do

1154
01:17:33.319 --> 01:17:35.479
not know how it's feeling that day. I do not

1155
01:17:35.720 --> 01:17:41.159
know how it's going to react. So, you know, could

1156
01:17:41.520 --> 01:17:48.439
some of these missing people be could it be the

1157
01:17:48.560 --> 01:17:51.560
Could they be victims of a rogue, si squatch or

1158
01:17:51.960 --> 01:17:56.119
just a curious one where you're a lone on the trail,

1159
01:17:56.319 --> 01:17:59.560
it's there and it just carries you off. That's very

1160
01:17:59.600 --> 01:18:04.000
how that highly possible. And you know I can face

1161
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that on Albert Ousman who got carried away and was

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01:18:12.920 --> 01:18:17.000
kept until he gave it snuff to get away. It

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01:18:17.000 --> 01:18:20.439
wouldn't let they wouldn't let him leave, you know, And

1164
01:18:20.439 --> 01:18:22.800
that was what in the fifties or twenties or something

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01:18:22.840 --> 01:18:26.760
like that. And if he hadn't given it no snuff,

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01:18:27.600 --> 01:18:33.239
he'd have been a missing person. So there is this

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01:18:34.319 --> 01:18:37.880
I don't want to say sinister side, but this we

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01:18:38.279 --> 01:18:43.880
cannot negate that this is a wild creature that we're

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dealing with.

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I would say you definitely, you know, if you are

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01:18:51.119 --> 01:18:55.000
going to be out going researching, have your wits about you,

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01:18:55.079 --> 01:18:56.840
let people know where you're going.

1173
01:18:57.840 --> 01:18:59.279
Exactly, you know, be.

1174
01:19:00.720 --> 01:19:05.039
Have some some form of protection with you. However you

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01:19:05.159 --> 01:19:07.239
view that. But yeah, at the end of the day,

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I mean, you know, if you are looking at them

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01:19:11.319 --> 01:19:15.319
as some kind of physical creature. You know, if it's

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01:19:15.319 --> 01:19:18.880
an animal, if it's cornered, it's going to act differently.

1179
01:19:18.960 --> 01:19:24.520
If there are you know, very young juveniles or around

1180
01:19:24.560 --> 01:19:28.600
you know, sometimes you don't you know, creature can be

1181
01:19:28.640 --> 01:19:31.439
more protective, so you know, you have to be aware

1182
01:19:31.520 --> 01:19:34.680
you can be putting yourself in some really interesting situations.

1183
01:19:34.840 --> 01:19:38.359
But Tony, it's been a pleasure talking to you tonight.

1184
01:19:38.520 --> 01:19:42.279
Another area of Georgia that we hadn't We've never talked

1185
01:19:42.279 --> 01:19:46.000
about Jenkins' Gap before on the show, so it's extremely

1186
01:19:46.079 --> 01:19:50.560
interesting to hear about it. Is there a way that,

1187
01:19:50.760 --> 01:19:52.800
you know, if people want to reach out to you

1188
01:19:53.039 --> 01:19:56.079
or do you kind of keep in the shadows a

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01:19:56.079 --> 01:19:58.159
little bit or how do you view that?

1190
01:19:59.319 --> 01:20:02.960
Well? I'm kind of just here, okay, all right, I

1191
01:20:03.039 --> 01:20:07.720
have an email. It is Tony G three eight nine

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01:20:08.000 --> 01:20:11.279
at gmail dot com. If anybody wants to reach out,

1193
01:20:11.359 --> 01:20:15.960
that's that's my email. You don't have a website or

1194
01:20:16.000 --> 01:20:19.760
nothing like that. Just just got my email, and you know,

1195
01:20:19.800 --> 01:20:23.000
I'm hoping to really discussing the subject. You know, it's

1196
01:20:23.199 --> 01:20:25.600
it's fun. I have a good time doing it, you know,

1197
01:20:26.399 --> 01:20:31.399
and you meet some fantastic people. You meet some fantastic people.

1198
01:20:33.079 --> 01:20:35.119
Oh yeah, I mean that's I would say that's half

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01:20:35.119 --> 01:20:37.760
the fun, right there, is the people you meet along

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01:20:37.800 --> 01:20:40.960
the way. But yeah, Tony, thank you so much for

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01:20:41.399 --> 01:20:44.560
opening our eyes about northwest Georgia. There, and thank you

1202
01:20:44.600 --> 01:20:45.640
for coming on the show.

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01:20:47.000 --> 01:20:49.399
Thank you for having me. It was a pleasure. I've

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01:20:49.439 --> 01:20:53.960
had a great time. Time went by fast and it's

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01:20:53.960 --> 01:20:54.479
been fun.

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I just wanted to take a few minutes to say

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