"I was Trapped inside my Tent and it was Outside" Bigfoot in New Hampshire with Brian Garvey

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As I'm hearing this and I make
a movement down to look, it stops.

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The steps stop. I look over
to my dog to see what he's

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doing. Now. Like I said, when Chewi sees an animal, darro

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looa, he's gonna chase that freaking
thing. He is just staring to the

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direction I heard the steps, and
he's not moving. Man, he is

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on a high alert and he is
not moving. I'm rocking looking between the

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trees like this scene. I don't
know why I started doing that. I

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think it was I wanted to stay
quiet. I didn't want to keep like

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pittering around. I wanted to see
if I could see what was doing that.

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All right, big faciety, thanks
for coming back to another episode.

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I've got the village of talking to
a new friend, mister Brian Garvey,

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tonight. How's it going, Brian? Very good, Jeremiah, good to

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be here, man, awesome,
awesome. So Brian, you are a

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new Hampshire based outdoorsman and hiker.
Correct, yes, yeah, since two

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eighteen I've been hiking. Oh that's
awesome. So yeah, tell me a

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little bit about that. I know
you've got a friend that goes hiking with

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you as well. I'd like to
hear all about that chewy you want.

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Yeah, totally. Oh okay,
Well this started twenty eighteen. In two

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fifteen, I should jump back to
that. I started getting into exercising and

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want to lose weight, and I'm
always looking for that extra just that next

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activity to do. And you could
you kind of get you get tired of

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running, you get tired of going
to the gym. I want something outside

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that that I love to do.
And I came across in twenty eighteen,

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my girlfriend now wife took me to
Mount Washington. Now. Mount Washington is

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located in northern New Hampshire. It's
in the Presidential Range. It is the

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highest mountain in the northeast six thousand, six thousand, two hundred and eighty

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eight feet around there roughly, I'm
in the ballpark there, big tourist destination

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finding big Foot, and I believe
it was one of the last seasons they

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went to Mount Washington and did an
episode on New Hampshire. And that was

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eye opening for me just because of
what happened to me way back in two

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thousand and three. It opened up
my eyes and really got the light bulb

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go off in my head of what's
going on up there, because I just

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I didn't know. Um when when
I the first thing I thought of Bigfoot

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was when I was a kid,
UH Unsolved Mysteries with Robert Stack did an

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episode on Bigfoot. It was like
it was like the first, first or

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second season of that and I was
just I was just a young kid,

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and it was probably the first time
I ever saw anything on on Bigfoot.

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And when you when you when you
see that that PG film as a kid,

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you're you're in awe, like like
something in the Pacific Northwest that big

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can remain hidden for so long,
So that that kind of got the we're

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talking two thousand and three, you
know, I planned a trip. Um

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it was a trip with my girlfriend
and my son, and my son was

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five and a half at the time, so we wanted to do something special

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at the end of the summer.
This was August of two thousand and three,

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so he was going to be starting
kindergarten. So he was five and

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a half, so kindergarten was starting
a couple of weeks. We want to

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do something special. Now up in
New Hampshire, in Glen New Hampshire,

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they have this, uh, this
amusement park called story Lands. It's it's

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based with children and and and I
never heard of it. I've never been

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to New Hampshire at the time,
I was twenty three, so I'm like,

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oh, what a great idea.
We get out, go go see

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what the mountains look like. It
was great, it was beautiful. So

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we were going to spend two days, two nights, three days at a

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campsite in Glen New Hampshire. Now
Glen New Hampshire is is It's in northern

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New Hampshire. It's right past the
Presidential Range Mount Washington. So first night

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went great, spent the whole next
day at the park. Came back to

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that day tired, set up the
camp you know, had the campfire going,

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and they went to bed early because
it was it was a long day.

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I stayed up till till it was
time to go to bed. You

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have to put the camp fire out
at a certain time, so around ten

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o'clock I put the campfire out.
I went to bed. Now for me,

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and still to this day, when
I hike and do overnights, I

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can't I have issues falling sleep in
a tent. I just I can't sleep

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on my back. I am constantly
a tosser and a turner. I know,

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like when I go on these big
hikes, I know I'm not going

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to sleep. I'm just going to
toss and turn and I suffer. I'll

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suffer, but I'll suffer because of
my love for the mountains. Like I

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will get up and I'll hike the
next morning. So that night, I'm

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just laying in the tent and it
was hours hours I was laying there,

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and I'm almost I'm getting you know, I'm getting mad. I'm getting aggravated

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because I know the next day,
like we have this big drive coming up,

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like a four where I would drive
home, and I'm like, i

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gotta go to sleep now. The
campsite, like the campground we had,

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it was right on the bend of
this of this brook and it was probably

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like nine ten feet wide where we
were the brook, and it was fast

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flowing water, so you know,
it was something you could rock hop across

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because there were boulders, but it
was nothing I didn't want my son to

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get next to because of the rook, you know, for his age and

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the way the water was moving.
I'm like, you can't go next to

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this, because on the other side
it was just wilderness. So we were

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on the out like right on the
edge of the where the campground ended.

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So that night, I'm just I'm
listening. I'm laying there. I'm listening

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to the water, you know,
I'm listening to all the crickets. You

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know. You hear like little mice, you know, the little mice going

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through the leaves. You know.
I'm listening to that. And I'm like,

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man, I'm like, I have
to go to sleep. So I'm

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just laying there on my back looking
up. All of a sudden, I

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hear this impression stop going across the
tent. Now. At first, like

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when I heard it, it scared
me. It scared the crap out of

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me because I'm like, who is
this jerk messing with me and my family

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in the middle of the night.
I thought it was you know, I'm

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thinking it's a person just messing with
us, like a drunk camper messing with

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me, putting his hand across my
tent. So you know how nylon is

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loud when a tent is loud when
you rub against it, And that's what

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startled me. But I was able
to pick up the impression of the hand,

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probably by the door of the ten
Now, this tent was a big

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tent. It was like an eight
person ten. It's one you could stand

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up and walk around in. So
we had all our stuff on one side

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of the tent. I was in
the middle. It was my girlfriend and

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my son on the end of the
tent. So my feet were at the

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door of the tent. So when
I saw or the impression above the tent,

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because I could see, you know, like I could see the digits

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going across, and I'm like,
I go up on my elbows and I'm

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watching. I'm about to get up. I'm about to get up, and

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I'm about to open the tent.
I'm gonna see who is this jerk messing

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with me? Who is this jerk
trying to scare me in the middle of

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the night. So as it made
it across the tent, I'm going to

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unzip my my sleeping bag. And
as soon as I started to do that,

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I hear a growl. I hear
this, this growl. It was

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the deepest growl I have ever heard, I have ever heard in my life.

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It went from a growl, a
guttural growl, to a grunt.

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And when that when it did that
grunt, man, my ear lobes vibrated

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like it vibrated my body to where
I I dropped right back down. I

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dropped right back down. I put
the frigging pillow over my head, and

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I just I was so confused.
I went from being angry and mad I

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wanted to confront this person to be
like, after I heard that grunt,

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I'm like, that's not a person. A person. A person cannot do

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what I heard. And it was
with such ease. It was just it

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went from a I heard the breath, the breath to the growl to the

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grunt. So it was just seconds, you know what I mean, It

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was just seconds, But I was
I was so I was so confused.

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Just I was confused. I was
scared and I just I just I fell

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right back down. I put the
pillow over my head, and I just

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I waited. I waited. I
was so scared because I didn't know what

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what would do that. So my
first motion was like I'm gonna turn and

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I'm gonna look. I'm gonna see
if it woke up my groun. And

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then they are heavy sleepers, they
will sign asleep. Now people ask me

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like, well, was it loud, And it wasn't a loud It wasn't

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a screen. It was just a
very deep guttural growl to a grunt.

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And it blew my mind that it
could vibrate me like that, because that's

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never happened to me before. The
closest thing I could compare it to is

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going to a concert. You get
to that front row in front of a

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speaker, and you got that guy. But blah blah blah. I'm on

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the base and it's rattling through you. That's the closest I can I can

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tell someone what that feels like.
And after that happened, like like I

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told you, I was listening to
the crickets. I was listening to all

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the little animals. After that grunt, after that vibration, it went dead

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silent, would no crickets. It
was dead silent. Where I couldn't.

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I couldn't. I didn't. I
couldn't. I couldn't move. And I

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don't know if I couldn't move from
the fear or if it was from that

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that rattle in my chest, that
vibration, it was something that it was.

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It confused me so much. They
stayed sound asleep. They would sound

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asleep. Now after that, all
happened and it went silent. I just

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laid there. I laid there and
I couldn't move. I just I didn't

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want to move. I didn't want
whatever it was. I didn't want it

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to know I was up. I
didn't want it to come back. I'm

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thinking of the direction it was going. It was going in the direction and

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if it came back, my son
was on the end of that ten I'm

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thinking about that. This is all
running through my head. I'm thinking about

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I don't want this thing coming back, you know. I'm trying to think

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of animals, what animals could do
that, because that's my first instinct.

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Bigfoot was not not even in my
mind. It was nothing I thought about

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at the time. It was.
It was. It wasn't even a thought.

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I thought it was in the Pacific
Northwest. I'm like, if there's

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one, there's one in the Pacific
Northwest, that that's what I thought.

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It was. Just it was.
It blew my mind. It just it

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blew my mind to where I didn't
feel safe. I didn't feel safe till

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I started getting light out and I
finally was like, like I finally had

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that sense of relief. Like the
bird started chirping and I finally felt I

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felt safe. I'm like, whatever
animal that was is definitely gone by now,

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because it's been hours. It was
hours I was laying there, and

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I remember that morning I was so
close to just I was so close to

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saying something took to my girlfriend.
But I didn't want her to say,

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oh, it was just a person, because it wasn't a person. A

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person cannot do what I felt with
that vocal. There's no way that the

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effort, it was an effortless grunt, and it was the deep. It

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was so deep. So I remember
after that, like I got out.

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I went outside the tent that morning. Now I'm on no sleep. I'm

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on no sleep. I didn't know
what to look around for. You know,

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I wasn't sure. But we were
rookie campers. You know. My

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coolers were out, like our everything
was out. Our marshmallows, our marshmallow

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sticks didn't touch it, nothing was
touched, nothing was moved. And I

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was so confused, Like I'm even
looking on the ground we were on.

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It was a hard, gravelly kind
of hard dirt, hard gravel. I

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looked around for like I first thought
bear, because I couldn't. I hadn't.

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I couldn't think of any other big
animal in New Hampshire that could do

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what what happened. And then I'm
really I'm starting to think about it.

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I'm like this, a bear is
not going to stand up on a time

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legs ruggets pour across my tent right
without putting a frigging hole in it with

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its claws like it baffled me and
I'm like, there's no way a hole

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is going to make that that vibration, like I've never heard of a bear

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doing that, And it bothered me
the whole ride home. I was just

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so close to just saying something,
but it was I kept it to myself.

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Now, I kept this to myself
for eighteen years. I told nobody,

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nobody. It was just a heavy
weight that was on my shoulders for

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all these years of just not knowing. Now. I remember for a couple

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of days after we got back,
I had such a hard time going to

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sleep because it was all I was
thinking about. To where I finally said,

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Brian, I just forget it,
man like, just forget it,

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like you're safe, nothing happened,
your family's fine. Just forget it,

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man like you don't know what it
was. So for years years. Man,

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I didn't I didn't know. I
didn't know until Monster Quest comes out

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two thousand and eight, two thousand
and nine, so we're talking five six

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years. I had this weight on
me. And when they talked about the

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John men Zinski tent encounter, now
I'm getting goosebumps right now just thinking about

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that. He was messed with in
his tent. Now, he just did

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an interview about a year ago on
another podcast where he went into great detail,

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great detail on what happened. His
tent was wrecked. His tent was

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wrecked, it was pushing down on
it, and he saw the silhouette though

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he saw the silhouette when he got
out of the tent in the in the

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in the tree line. That got
the ball rolling in my head. And

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then Monsterquest does went in New York
does the White Hall. They did a

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New York episode. They're talking about
the guy that felt the vibration that even

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his pant leg like he felt the
vibrations in his leg, and it just

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everything everything came rushing back to that
night in the tent for me, and

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I was like, oh my god, I'm like, maybe that's what happened

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to me that night because I was
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happened that that night. And when
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in my head and I'm like,
oh wow, But I still I still

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didn't. I wasn't for sure,
I didn't tell I still it was something

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I still just kept to myself.
Then finding Bigfoot, like we just said

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earlier, goes to wat goes to
New Hampshire, and I'm like, oh,

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I'm like, I gotta watch this, Like I gotta watch this.

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I gotta see what they say because
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It was a great It was an
eye opening show for a lot of people

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to show what is really going on. I loved when they talked about the

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town hall meetings. I loved when
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the sites and showing where the encounter
happened. And one of the guys they

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had on was a guy that was
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Now, this Cherry Mountain is right
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right next to where I was camping. So I'm starting to connect the dots.

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I'm starting to connect the dots.
I'm finally I think I'm only getting

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some answers to what happened to me
that night. So when he told said

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that he was getting he was getting
sticks, branches, rocks thrown at his

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tent until he was scared off the
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Something scared him off the mountain.
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god, I'm like that. I'm
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thing happened. It wasn't rockstrown against
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you know, it's been twenty years, it'll be twenty years this August,

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that tent encounter happened. It feels
like it just happened yesterday. Man,

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Like I can just I can just
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eyes and I can just picture the
impressions going across man and then the power

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of the vocal is just It's something
I've had some I've had a few traumatic

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things happened to me. But the
one I think about the most and when

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I think about every day is that
night the tent man. Because I have

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not since this has happened, I
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I can't I can't camp alone.
I can't go out in a tent by

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myself. You know, me and
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adventure with me out in the mountains, and I need to go to a

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tent site. They have these tent
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you can stay in. You pay
the pay the caretaker a fee. It's

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like fifteen bucks a night. You
get a little tent platform. But there

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are other hikers there. I am
fine with that. I can. I

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can. I can camp with other
people. I can stay out with other

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people alone in my tent. But
if I am out there, I can't

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do it. I have chickened out
twice trying to stealth camp on one of

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these hikes, and I'm just like, now, just go, just go

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to the tent site, man,
Like I wasn't red. I haven't been

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ready to do that until this year. I am finally going to try to

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do that. But we'll get into
that story a little later. So that

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was like twenty fifteen, two thousand
and sixteen. It was one of finding

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Bigfoots last seasons when I heard this. So for me, since then twenty

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eighteen, I started getting into hiking. I did my first mountain, of

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which I said before Mount Washington with
my girlfriend and I instantly, I instantly

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fell in love with mountain hiking.
I love the the quiet, I love

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the solitude. I'm one of those
hikers. If I have the trail to

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myself, like and I have a
mountain peak to myself, that's that's my

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lottery, that's Michael get there.
There's nothing more than I like than having

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that to myself. So for me, it's the solitude of the mountains.

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It's it's the reward at the end
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I'm going on this big hike.
Like after that Mount Washington, I

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had to look up. I'm like, what other mountains can I do in

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that area? So I find out
there this list called the New Hampshire forty

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eight. Now the New Hampshire forty
eight is forty eight four thousand foot peaks

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in New Hampshire that you can,
you know, just do as a get

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your little reward and get a little
patch at the end when you finish.

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You know, I'm like, oh, that is great, That's something I

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could do with my dog. But
you know what I'm gonna do. I'm

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going to document every hike, so
I have a GoPro for me, and

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now I have a go Pro for
my dog, Chewey, so I put

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a go Pro on him. I
gotta go pro. And I'm just I'm

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vlogging as I'm hiking. I'm you
know, it's I don't have it on

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constantly, but clips of just perfect
views and where I'm at and what I'm

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doing. And we've been doing that
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yeah, so we finished, we
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Um, but now I've gone on
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Maine and all up in these these
these areas that there's not a lot of

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people. You're talking. Maine is
the it's like the percentage wise most forested

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state in America, like forested population
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and New Hampshire, those those those
if you want, if you want solitude,

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you want you want to go hike
and be and be in a quiet

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area where there's not a lot of
rural or a lot of people. That's

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where you want to go. New
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eighteen, we're doing this big hike. Now, this this hike is called

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the Pemmy Loop. Now they call
it the Pemmy Loop because you're in this

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section of the White Mountain National Forest. This White Mountain National Forest is eight

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hundred thousand acres of it's a massive
that's that's massive. Like it's it's mind

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blowing. It's it's a lot of
land. And you have these pockets here

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and there in New Hampshire where it's
just protected forest. There's maybe one trail

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going in. You might have a
trail a few miles away, but it's

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just you in that trail in rugged
wilderness. Now, the one thing I

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want to say about how rugged it
is in in New Hampshire. I mean,

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they don't call the Granite State for
nothing, you know, I mean

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it's granite, it's rock. I
mean your your feet doing a big high.

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You're by the end of that hight, your feet are junk. You

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know, you're carrying a big multi
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over mountain peaks. Now, this, this pemmajerwaset It's a big thirty one

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point five mile hike over thirteen mountain
peaks. Some people do it in like

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a day. The nuts, the
runners, those those maraths, like those

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those you know, ultra marathon people
will jog it slowly and we'll take them

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like sixteen hours. We do it
in a day and a half. We're

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pretty fast hikers, me and Chewy, but we'll do it overnight. We'll

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stay at a at a campsite,
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So I'm on my way up this
this trail. Now, this now,

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this section of the pema Jawast Wilderness. It's forty six thousand acres of

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the eight hundred thousand acres of the
White Mountains. It's the biggest area of

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the White Mountains in one area because
it's broken up through the state the White

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Mountains. So we're on this track. I'm like, we're going to bang

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out twelve thirteen peaks. I'm like, this is great. So we're on

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our way up. To go into
this this area, you have to you

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go into the Lincoln Woods. Now
this Lincoln Woods. This is this bridge

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you walk across, and once you
walk over that bridge, over that Pemmi,

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that Pemmi River, it's just you
in the wilderness. There's no cars

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that can get in, there's nothing, it's just pure solitude. Now this

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Lincoln, this Lincoln, this Lincoln
Trail, this Lincoln Woods Trail, it

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breaks up to this Lincoln Brook Trail
and Franconia Brook Trail. We're taking the

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Franconia Brook Trail up to the one
section to go to do a whole full

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circle of the mountains. Because the
mountains it's like twelve mountains in a big

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circle and in the middle is the
Pemmi Wilderness. It's just where no one

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goes. Nobody goes, you know
what I mean, there's no trail going

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right through it. So it's it's
it's four is that there's not there's some

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people, there's places that people haven't
even gone in there, you know what

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I mean. Oh absolutely, man, it's yeah. You know, I

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grew up in um in western Massachusetts, in a town called Northfield. Oh

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yeah, and so my father was
big into the outdoors and I hiked all

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of Connecticut in Massachusetts on the Appletion
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I know exactly these areas you're talking
about New Hampshire and listeners need to know

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this is nothing to mess with at
all. This area that Brian is talking

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about is life or death type stuff. And honestly, yeah, unfortunately that

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there have been a lot of deaths
on Mount Washington. Oh yeah, they

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have a list up when you get
on the peak, you go into the

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conservatory and they have a list of
all the people that died. And even

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just in the White Mountains alone,
we had I think four deaths this year

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of you know, you could be
at the bottom, you could be at

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the bottom parking lot, you could
be in shorts and a T shirt.

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It'd be, you know, high
fifties. You get up into the five

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thousand foot elevation range, it could
be a white out. The weather changes

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on a dime up there, and
if you're not prepared and you venture off

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trail just a little bit and you
and you get lost, it's going to

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be very hard to find you because
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I carry a garment with me.
I carry a satellite phone just in case.

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Unfortunately, we had a nineteen year
old to pass away this year.

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You know, she was trying to
finish her forty eight and she had like

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eight mountains left and she just she
just lost her way on a place I've

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been a few times and it's easy
to miss where you're gonna go and end

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up in a gully and then you're
you're lost. And unfortunately she she died

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on her birthday. So it's stuff
that happens in there. If you're not

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it's just a lack of preparation.
And like you said, it's it's nothing

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to mess with one thing, because
you could go four or five yards off

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trail and sometimes you have trouble finding
that trail. Again, it's happened to

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me a few times, and I
am so lucky I carry a garment that

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has the map, has the satellite
map, and I can get back on

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trail because there's been a few times
where I'm like, oh, no,

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humble trail. So we're going up
this this, this Lincoln Brook trail.

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Now you're pretty much following Brooks for
miles on these on these trails, and

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you're in a ravine, uh,
the ravene in between these mountains, and

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I'm going up this trail. And
it was in July. We're doing this

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hike. Um, some of these
some of these trails are in very very

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uh it's like you're going in a
tunnel, you know. It's the foliage

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is so thick. It's almost like
you're in a tube of a wave.

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It's just that thick. I'm walking. I'm laudid huh. It's this is

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my second time filming, okay with
a GoPro, and I'm just going along.

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I'm got chewing on the side of
me. And as I'm walking on

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this trail about nine feet up for
me, this branch shakes. It's scared

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the crap out of me. As
soon as I saw out of the corner

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of my eyes shake, I just
did a one eighty man and I go

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back about thirty forty yards. Okay. I gathered myself and I got my

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goalpro out and when that happen bent
everything from two thousand and three just rushes

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back to me. That that feeling
of being scared stiff. It just that

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it brought back that night the tent
to where I was so confused, I

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was so scared, and I'm like, oh my god, I'm like,

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I'm gonna see it, like I'm
gonna see this thing. I'm finally gonna

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see it, like I'm getting my
answers. I'm waiting for like two minutes,

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man, two minutes. I got
the GoPro going. I'm just standing

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there just with the GoPro choo on
the side of me, and all of

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a sudden, you know, I'm
still seeing the rustling, and I'm like,

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oh my god, all of a
sudden, this big frigging moose comes

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out onto the trail. That's scary, though, dude. That's people don't

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understand how scary that is. And
it wasn't a little moved. This had

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a full rack. First time I've
seen my moose, like in real life

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besides on TV. This is the
first time I've seen moose. I went

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from like pure like almost glad because
of what I thought it was because I

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was scared man, to almost like, oh my god. I'm like,

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is this thing going to charge me? I'm like, they doo, yeah.

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I have no weapon. I carry
a tactical knife. I don't have

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a gun. This thing is just
out on the trail and just eating the

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vegetation. So that's what I was
doing when I saw the branch shake.

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So when people say, oh,
how come moose like a sasquatch, how

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come you know something eight feet tall? You can't you know you can't see

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it, dude, Go into the
White Mountain National Forest. Go when it's

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full folio. You can't see three
five yards in, you can't see.

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I couldn't see a freaking twelve hundred
pound moose. I couldn't see it until

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it came out onto the trail.
Yeah, so I'm like, I'm still

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I'm there, scared, I'm still
filming the damn thing. Now. I

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looked down at my dog. Now, what I have to say about Chewy

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because it comes into a factor later
on. What's happening? Was out there

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any squirrel, chipmunk, dear anything, dear and lower, He's gonna chase.

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He's gonna be line it and he
will chase. I will stream at

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the top my lugs. Chewy.
There is no He's just it's like a

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shark. It's like a shark sensing
blood. He's just bose. He was

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more scared than I was when that
moose popped out, Like he didn't he

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did not want to move. I
was on that trail man for three or

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00:32:57.279 --> 00:33:02.559
four minutes, not moving. Wave
that damn moose to get off the trails

406
00:33:02.559 --> 00:33:07.079
so I could keep going. The
thing is I had to drag Chewy now

407
00:33:07.079 --> 00:33:10.759
he has a harness on him,
and so I am dragging him to get

408
00:33:10.759 --> 00:33:14.759
by this moose, which was probably
by the time I got by the moose,

409
00:33:15.039 --> 00:33:16.440
it was probably about fifteen yards in. But I'm like, this is

410
00:33:16.480 --> 00:33:22.720
my chance, this is my chance
to get by this moose. So after

411
00:33:22.759 --> 00:33:27.160
all that happened, my adrenaline is
crazy. It's just my heart is like

412
00:33:28.599 --> 00:33:31.039
I was so thankful nothing happens,
Like I don't know anything about moose like

413
00:33:31.079 --> 00:33:34.720
the rut, you know, like
I didn't know, like, oh,

414
00:33:34.759 --> 00:33:40.359
you didn't know anything about moose staring. Oh that's horrifying. I didn't know

415
00:33:40.440 --> 00:33:44.480
what to do. I didn't know, like I'm not gonna make noise to

416
00:33:44.599 --> 00:33:46.680
go hide behind a tree because it's
just got to knock that freaking tree right

417
00:33:46.720 --> 00:33:53.599
down coming at me. Just there's
still still still. I was so scared,

418
00:33:54.240 --> 00:34:00.880
man, So after that happened,
all I could think about. All

419
00:34:00.920 --> 00:34:02.559
I could think about was that night
in the tent and what happened to me

420
00:34:02.640 --> 00:34:07.760
that night. It brought back that
fear, that that fear of being scared

421
00:34:07.840 --> 00:34:12.920
stiff to where I'm like, oh, I'm like I remember when I finished

422
00:34:12.920 --> 00:34:15.880
that hike. Man. As soon
as I got home, I was never

423
00:34:15.920 --> 00:34:21.880
a YouTube guy. You know,
I was never a tech guy. I

424
00:34:21.920 --> 00:34:25.760
didn't start watching YouTube till twenty eighteen. I never got into it. So

425
00:34:27.480 --> 00:34:30.960
I'm like, I gotta find answers. I gotta find answers. And what

426
00:34:30.039 --> 00:34:36.000
happened to me that night? You
know, because the shows gave me you

427
00:34:36.039 --> 00:34:37.679
know, like I said, the
light bulb went off a little bit with

428
00:34:37.679 --> 00:34:44.760
with those monster quests and finding Bigfoot. They got thinking about that. So

429
00:34:44.840 --> 00:34:52.960
I go home and I put in
New Hampshire Sasquatch and Coos County wood devil

430
00:34:52.000 --> 00:34:55.039
pops up. I'm like, oh
my god, I'm glad we're going here,

431
00:34:55.079 --> 00:34:59.639
because I was like, I'm gonna
I'm really curious if he's gotten here

432
00:34:59.679 --> 00:35:01.920
before. I'm glad you're bringing this
up. Dude. When that popped up,

433
00:35:02.039 --> 00:35:04.320
I'm like, man, no,
no, no, no, no

434
00:35:04.320 --> 00:35:09.440
no, I'm like sasquatch. Little
did I know back in the lady eighteen

435
00:35:09.559 --> 00:35:16.559
hundreds, early nineteen hundreds, when
they were encounters, back then, they

436
00:35:16.559 --> 00:35:21.400
didn't call them what we called them
now. They called them wood devils,

437
00:35:22.000 --> 00:35:27.320
wold devils, and Harry Ben and
I that sent me, dude. Anyone

438
00:35:27.440 --> 00:35:32.039
knows who gets into this sasquatch realm, you go down that rabbit hole.

439
00:35:34.519 --> 00:35:38.119
I went down that rabbit hole man, and I was just Sasquatch Chronicles pops

440
00:35:38.199 --> 00:35:44.239
up. Oh yeah, Chronicles didn't
know what it was. Yeah, And

441
00:35:44.280 --> 00:35:50.440
then I saw listen to a couple
episodes. I was hooked. I was

442
00:35:50.599 --> 00:35:53.159
hooked. I was listening to it
at work all day. I had my

443
00:35:53.239 --> 00:35:58.840
earbuds and I'm listening to sasquats Chronicles
episodes. I went all the way back

444
00:35:58.880 --> 00:36:01.599
to episode one and I just listened
to all of all. And then I'm

445
00:36:01.719 --> 00:36:07.719
hearing I'm hearing all these similar encounters. I'm hearing these the tent encounters in

446
00:36:07.880 --> 00:36:13.800
New Hampshire. I'm hearing a woman's
tent encounter in her yard in New Hampshire,

447
00:36:13.840 --> 00:36:20.199
camping with her kids, whereof they
a juvenile sasquatch was running and went

448
00:36:20.239 --> 00:36:22.960
along the attent and rubbed across the
attent and I was like, oh,

449
00:36:23.000 --> 00:36:28.480
I was like, oh my god. I'm like the I was like,

450
00:36:29.440 --> 00:36:36.400
It's happened to other people. But
I'm finally getting these answers. So wow.

451
00:36:37.000 --> 00:36:40.280
So that was twenty eighteen that happened, and it didn't it didn't,

452
00:36:40.559 --> 00:36:47.960
you know. I still didn't say
anything to anyone because it's very taboo up

453
00:36:47.960 --> 00:36:53.079
here in the Northeast. Absolutely,
absolutely, dude, And that is a

454
00:36:53.199 --> 00:37:01.039
big problem up here. You don't
hear a lot of you don't hear a

455
00:37:01.039 --> 00:37:06.119
lot of encounter people don't tell what's
going on. For one, a lot

456
00:37:06.199 --> 00:37:09.960
of it happens on private lands.
Like I've talked with Alex Pettacough and another

457
00:37:10.000 --> 00:37:14.519
buddy of mine and Evan, he
goes by New Hampshire Sasquatch. He's another

458
00:37:14.519 --> 00:37:22.400
guy that collects he collects eyewitness data
on encounters and they've collaborated together, him

459
00:37:22.400 --> 00:37:24.880
and Alex, and they have a
map of these cluster areas in New Hampshire

460
00:37:25.320 --> 00:37:30.960
where there are these these encounters and
sightings and it just blew my mind.

461
00:37:30.159 --> 00:37:37.519
It blew my mind. And like
I said, I'm doing a lot of

462
00:37:37.519 --> 00:37:45.920
these hikes in this wilderness, and
this one hike comes up. This hike

463
00:37:45.039 --> 00:37:50.920
is called Owl's Head. No,
that sounds really familiar. This Owl's Head

464
00:37:51.199 --> 00:37:57.880
is in the Pemmy Jawassit Wilderness.
Okay, this is a seventeen point to

465
00:37:58.320 --> 00:38:02.119
mile hike. You're going just to
get to the base of the mountain.

466
00:38:02.320 --> 00:38:07.480
You're going eight miles into the wilderness. So I'm taking that same route.

467
00:38:07.880 --> 00:38:13.280
Like I said, I took the
Lincoln Brook Trail on that Pemmy loop and

468
00:38:13.599 --> 00:38:17.079
the other trail when you very off
to the left is the Franconia Broke Trail.

469
00:38:17.599 --> 00:38:22.159
Yeah, so I'm on that Franconia
Brooke Trail going up to this,

470
00:38:25.440 --> 00:38:29.159
going up to this owl's head.
Now, this owl's head. This wasn't

471
00:38:29.199 --> 00:38:31.519
number forty three for us on the
New Hampshire forty eighth. So I was

472
00:38:31.519 --> 00:38:37.000
getting close to the end. I
was doing a lot of hiking around that

473
00:38:37.079 --> 00:38:42.760
time, twenty nineteen. I really
started really just every other week, and

474
00:38:43.079 --> 00:38:45.719
I am just going and I'm banging
out mountains and I'm banging out mountains.

475
00:38:46.360 --> 00:38:51.440
This is the one no one wants
to do because, let alone, it's

476
00:38:51.440 --> 00:38:54.519
a seventeen point two out and back
hike, but it's a viewless peak.

477
00:38:54.719 --> 00:39:00.480
There is nothing to look at at
the top. So it's it's one of

478
00:39:00.480 --> 00:39:02.280
those like, uh, like,
let's just get it out of the way.

479
00:39:05.039 --> 00:39:07.320
Now. It's turned out to be
one of my favorite hikes because what's

480
00:39:07.320 --> 00:39:12.599
happened. But so We're on this
this, this, this Franconi Brook Trail,

481
00:39:13.320 --> 00:39:17.199
and I'm about three and a half
miles in you come to this,

482
00:39:17.960 --> 00:39:22.480
Uh, it's a pond. It's
called Black Pond. So I take this.

483
00:39:22.119 --> 00:39:27.920
It's a bush whack I could take
to save me like point two miles.

484
00:39:28.599 --> 00:39:31.239
It was point four miles total to
save to do this. Brian,

485
00:39:31.679 --> 00:39:35.760
that's the start to a really bad
story. Okay, So I'm gonna bush

486
00:39:35.760 --> 00:39:38.679
whack in the middle of the Pemmy
Wilderness. It's it's, it's it's it's

487
00:39:38.679 --> 00:39:43.159
a fairly okay. It's a trail
that a lot of people use, but

488
00:39:43.199 --> 00:39:45.519
they don't, okay, paint it
well. So you do have the foot

489
00:39:45.519 --> 00:39:50.840
traffic to way, you can follow
it pretty pretty well. But I mean

490
00:39:51.199 --> 00:39:53.079
gorgeous, gorgeous area. I'll send
you a picture of it. It's it's

491
00:39:53.079 --> 00:39:58.760
a beautiful area. It's a pond
in the middle of nowhere. Like glass,

492
00:39:59.119 --> 00:40:01.039
you know, it's like looking at
glass and you get the mountains coming,

493
00:40:01.239 --> 00:40:04.559
you know, the mountains in the
background, and you get in the

494
00:40:04.559 --> 00:40:07.440
mountains on the water. Just a
beautiful area. I'm like, oh,

495
00:40:07.679 --> 00:40:10.920
go to perfect spot for me and
Chewy to have a water break. Say

496
00:40:10.960 --> 00:40:15.400
where I'm at with my GoPro and
stuff and what we're doing and we'll just

497
00:40:15.440 --> 00:40:21.039
get back on this bushwhack. So
now when I'm on these hikes, like

498
00:40:22.559 --> 00:40:25.360
Sasquatch is not in my mind twenty
four seven, Like I'll listen. I'll

499
00:40:25.400 --> 00:40:28.480
listen to a podcast on the way
up, you know what I mean.

500
00:40:28.519 --> 00:40:31.400
I'll listen to a story on the
way up. It's it's once you get

501
00:40:31.440 --> 00:40:36.840
into that mode of hiking, it's
it's not thinking about that stuff, you

502
00:40:36.920 --> 00:40:43.239
know. So we're about halfway down, halfway done with this this bushwhack,

503
00:40:43.880 --> 00:40:47.159
and uh, I'm just going laid
now. What I want people to know

504
00:40:47.360 --> 00:40:54.559
is like I'm not filming constantly anyone
that has a GoPro. Those batteries do

505
00:40:54.639 --> 00:40:59.960
not last, you know. So
I'm just I'm doing highlights of the high

506
00:41:00.239 --> 00:41:01.880
Like a few minutes here, I'll
see what I'm doing, a few minutes

507
00:41:01.920 --> 00:41:05.280
there, you know, I'll turn
Chewies on. When we're at like a

508
00:41:05.320 --> 00:41:07.199
peak, I'll put Chewies go Pro
on and get his point of view.

509
00:41:08.280 --> 00:41:15.079
So we're on this path and all
of a sudden, I hear this wow

510
00:41:15.239 --> 00:41:19.599
wow wow, wow wow wow.
Six of them, six of them to

511
00:41:19.639 --> 00:41:22.480
where my eyes were flinching. I
was flinching. It was that loud off

512
00:41:22.480 --> 00:41:25.920
to my right, like like that
like someone banging a hammer and you don't

513
00:41:25.960 --> 00:41:29.239
know they're going to bang the hammer
and you're next to them, and you're

514
00:41:29.239 --> 00:41:32.000
like, you're like that, You're
like flinching. Yeah, I was so

515
00:41:32.880 --> 00:41:37.159
confused. The first thing I thought
of was woodpecker. You know, you

516
00:41:37.159 --> 00:41:40.239
you first you think of the first
animal that can do that, that is

517
00:41:40.920 --> 00:41:45.039
that comes to your mind. I
first thought woodpecker, and I'm like,

518
00:41:45.800 --> 00:41:47.760
like, that can't be a woodpecker. That's not enough to make you flinch

519
00:41:47.840 --> 00:41:52.960
like that. Though. It's way
too loud, it's way too hard.

520
00:41:52.280 --> 00:41:59.559
It was very hard and fast,
and just six of them twelve to fifteen

521
00:41:59.639 --> 00:42:04.320
seconds go by. Then I get
six knocks to my left, a little

522
00:42:04.400 --> 00:42:09.360
further away, a little further away, and I was like, oh my

523
00:42:09.480 --> 00:42:14.679
god. I'm like it just happened
over there, but a little further away.

524
00:42:15.599 --> 00:42:20.760
Twelve to fifteen seconds later, I
guess six knocks way off to the

525
00:42:20.800 --> 00:42:25.679
front of me. At that time, I pop on my goal problem.

526
00:42:25.719 --> 00:42:31.400
I pop it on. I'm like, holy shit, I'm like I just

527
00:42:31.480 --> 00:42:36.079
heard knocks in three different directions.
I'm saying, what's going on. I'm

528
00:42:36.079 --> 00:42:38.719
so used to doing it on my
hike stat It's to me, it's like

529
00:42:38.760 --> 00:42:43.320
my goal problem. I'm talking to
a person that is like my safety valve.

530
00:42:43.519 --> 00:42:45.199
You know what I'm saying. I'm
out of here by myself. You

531
00:42:45.239 --> 00:42:47.639
know, I'm going out to these
places. It's just me and the dog.

532
00:42:49.760 --> 00:42:52.039
So that's kind of my lifeline.
I kind of look at it.

533
00:42:52.440 --> 00:42:55.599
So I'm saying, what's going on. I mean, I'm f bombing.

534
00:42:55.920 --> 00:43:00.719
I have it all, I have
it all on my I have an old

535
00:43:00.800 --> 00:43:05.199
on camera, you know what i
mean. I'm saying what happened? And

536
00:43:05.639 --> 00:43:08.719
I was just so I was so
confused, and I was like, oh

537
00:43:08.800 --> 00:43:13.719
my god. I'm like, I'm
hearing knocks in three different directions six,

538
00:43:13.960 --> 00:43:17.760
six and six. I'm like,
that's that's It's not an echo. I'm

539
00:43:17.760 --> 00:43:23.119
like, it's not an echo.
So I do my thing. I'm walking

540
00:43:23.159 --> 00:43:25.320
on the trail. It was a
few minutes. I have to go pro

541
00:43:25.440 --> 00:43:30.159
going, so I put chews go
pro on and I'm like, I gotta

542
00:43:30.199 --> 00:43:31.960
see. I gotta see if it
happens again. I was in that area.

543
00:43:32.239 --> 00:43:36.239
I was probably like it was like
ten fifteen minutes. I'm going.

544
00:43:36.360 --> 00:43:39.079
I'm just I'm kind of I'm pacing
back and forth. Man, I'm pacing

545
00:43:39.119 --> 00:43:44.320
back and forth. I'm looking around
and it's quiet, you know. You

546
00:43:44.360 --> 00:43:47.400
hear the occasional bird, you know, but it's just quiet. I'm watching

547
00:43:47.440 --> 00:43:52.039
my dog. I'm seeing how he's
acting, and he's sniffing around and kind

548
00:43:52.039 --> 00:43:55.320
of looking around, but he's not
on the high alert. So I kind

549
00:43:55.360 --> 00:44:00.199
of was like, oh, I'm
like okay, So I say my goal

550
00:44:00.199 --> 00:44:02.039
pro, I'm like, all right, I'm just gonna keep on going.

551
00:44:02.840 --> 00:44:09.159
Shut my GoPro off, dude.
Ten seconds later, six knocks again to

552
00:44:09.199 --> 00:44:16.519
my right. O. Man.
I was like, I was so afraid

553
00:44:16.760 --> 00:44:22.280
and confused, because it's never I
didn't put any stock into the knocks.

554
00:44:22.440 --> 00:44:25.639
Ever in these stories where I hear
these guys banging on tree, I'm like,

555
00:44:25.639 --> 00:44:29.360
what are you doing? Man,
I'm like, come on, like

556
00:44:29.559 --> 00:44:35.760
you're banging on trees. Until it
happened to me and I was like,

557
00:44:35.920 --> 00:44:40.440
oh my god, I'm like,
what the hell is that? And of

558
00:44:40.480 --> 00:44:45.920
course, in the back of I'm
stocking to think sasquatch. After the six

559
00:44:45.039 --> 00:44:50.920
knocks, three knocks to my left, same distance a little further ways as

560
00:44:50.960 --> 00:44:57.199
the ones prior, and right at
that moment, I felt like I was

561
00:44:57.239 --> 00:45:01.239
in a crossfire of communication. That's
that's what felt like at the time,

562
00:45:02.960 --> 00:45:09.519
and I I was so I wanted
to see what was doing it because the

563
00:45:09.559 --> 00:45:14.440
ones to my right were the closest, and those are the ones that kept

564
00:45:14.440 --> 00:45:19.960
going first before the rounds again,
but after the three to the left,

565
00:45:20.760 --> 00:45:22.800
three to the freaking front of me, the ones that were far away,

566
00:45:22.960 --> 00:45:27.760
it happened again. Three so six
three three. On that second round of

567
00:45:27.800 --> 00:45:32.599
Knox GoPro goes back on. I'm
like, it just definit happened again.

568
00:45:34.159 --> 00:45:37.840
Now, anyone that wants to watch
this, I put it up on my

569
00:45:37.920 --> 00:45:40.360
channel like it's just raw and unedited, and me, oh yeah, no,

570
00:45:40.599 --> 00:45:45.719
it's gonna definitely be in the show
notes. It's it's I mean,

571
00:45:45.800 --> 00:45:51.159
it's it's a required I sent you
a few things. Yeah, that's one

572
00:45:51.159 --> 00:45:55.800
of them. That was one of
them. And I got so scared because

573
00:45:57.039 --> 00:46:00.599
I don't know what those knocks mean. Man, I do That's the thing

574
00:46:00.679 --> 00:46:04.039
no one does, right, No, So when I see these guys knocking,

575
00:46:04.119 --> 00:46:06.480
I'm like, what are you doing? You don't know what that means?

576
00:46:06.559 --> 00:46:08.519
Yeah, man, I'm going out
with guys that like to knock,

577
00:46:08.880 --> 00:46:13.960
you know, And I get scared. We may knock because I'm like,

578
00:46:14.079 --> 00:46:16.880
dude, you don't know what that
means. Man. You can have as

579
00:46:16.920 --> 00:46:20.199
much fun as you were up banging
on that, but you don't know.

580
00:46:21.000 --> 00:46:24.360
Because when I'm going out on like
these researching, you know, investigations with

581
00:46:24.400 --> 00:46:29.440
Alex and stuff, I'm not a
knocker, man. I am one of

582
00:46:29.440 --> 00:46:32.800
those guys who want to sit and
be quiet and just let nature come to

583
00:46:32.880 --> 00:46:37.840
me, you know what I mean. Let let them, let the curiosity

584
00:46:37.280 --> 00:46:40.480
come check me out, don't.
I don't want to. I'm not swinging

585
00:46:40.519 --> 00:46:45.960
anything, man, because I don't
know what that means. Well, as

586
00:46:45.000 --> 00:46:49.679
all this is going on, I'm
like, oh my god, I'm like,

587
00:46:49.760 --> 00:46:54.599
i gotta call Alex. That's awesome. Yeah, totally. I didn't

588
00:46:54.599 --> 00:47:02.440
know who to talk to. And
I'm gonna skip back a minute because the

589
00:47:02.559 --> 00:47:07.280
first time I came out with my
story of what happened to me in that

590
00:47:07.400 --> 00:47:13.400
tent, it was like a month
after my dad died. I was I

591
00:47:13.440 --> 00:47:17.440
was in such an emotional state.
That was December of twenty twenty, and

592
00:47:19.000 --> 00:47:23.760
after that happened, I'm thinking about
this heavy weight that's been on me with

593
00:47:23.840 --> 00:47:28.480
this, this this tenth thing.
Because I kind of had a clue what

594
00:47:28.599 --> 00:47:35.000
it was, but I still haven't
told anyone it. And I remember going

595
00:47:35.039 --> 00:47:37.760
on a winter hike and I was
just so ready to just I needed to

596
00:47:37.840 --> 00:47:42.840
just I need to just say it. So I had my go pro.

597
00:47:43.199 --> 00:47:46.000
I just started filming myself as I'm
hiking on this winter hike about what happened

598
00:47:46.000 --> 00:47:51.000
to me in that tent. And
it was like a sixteen seventeen minute video

599
00:47:51.039 --> 00:47:54.280
of me just it was my first
time ever it coming out of my mouth.

600
00:47:55.679 --> 00:48:01.039
And I felt so good after finally
saying it, even if it was

601
00:48:01.079 --> 00:48:06.599
just to the camera. Man,
it felt so good to say it.

602
00:48:06.840 --> 00:48:09.440
But it was something that I sat
on. I sat on it for a

603
00:48:09.480 --> 00:48:14.320
month. I didn't post it on
my channel. I waited it because I

604
00:48:14.320 --> 00:48:19.679
didn't want you're saying it's very taboo
up here. I didn't. I didn't

605
00:48:19.679 --> 00:48:22.159
want to get that look. I
didn't want to get that look like all

606
00:48:22.199 --> 00:48:27.199
this guy's freaking crazy, you know, like viewing this crap he doesn't know.

607
00:48:28.280 --> 00:48:30.960
I didn't want that for my family, you know what I mean.

608
00:48:30.159 --> 00:48:36.880
I didn't want that. I didn't
want to be let down, do you

609
00:48:36.920 --> 00:48:40.760
know what I mean? I didn't
want that negative feedback from it. You

610
00:48:40.800 --> 00:48:44.960
know what I mean, oh,
I get it because I grew up first

611
00:48:44.960 --> 00:48:49.880
twenty years of my life. We're
in New England, and it's like it's

612
00:48:49.920 --> 00:48:53.199
a lot of there's an unwritten thing
where it's like you just shut your mouth

613
00:48:53.760 --> 00:48:59.719
and yeah, and if you're you're
not the guy that starts talking about stuff.

614
00:48:59.760 --> 00:49:02.840
And I wasn't in the big footback
then. It's like I heard maybe

615
00:49:02.960 --> 00:49:08.119
one thing growing up about something weird, and it was like about Koi dogs.

616
00:49:08.159 --> 00:49:13.159
It wasn't big Foot old timers on
a porch talking about Koi dogs.

617
00:49:13.159 --> 00:49:16.400
If you get but I totally am
with you. Man Like in that area

618
00:49:16.440 --> 00:49:22.079
of the US, you just usually
don't open your mouth about that you don't

619
00:49:22.480 --> 00:49:24.519
and especially that you don't like I
said, you don't want to, you

620
00:49:24.559 --> 00:49:28.119
know, I don't want to tell
my you know, like my mother or

621
00:49:28.159 --> 00:49:31.639
my girlfriend and have a look at
me like like that give me that look.

622
00:49:31.840 --> 00:49:38.039
I didn't want to be let down. So when I'm like you don't

623
00:49:38.039 --> 00:49:43.320
want, I'm like, I'm going
to upload it onto my channel and I'm

624
00:49:43.360 --> 00:49:49.760
gonna see if someone will reach out
to me to see what to see if

625
00:49:49.760 --> 00:49:53.119
I could have someone to talk to
about it. So I put it out

626
00:49:53.800 --> 00:49:57.440
and then I finally I shared it
on social media. I put it on

627
00:49:57.920 --> 00:50:02.480
the Sasquatch Chronicles fan page on you
on Facebook. Yeah. So I just

628
00:50:02.519 --> 00:50:10.119
got this outpour of comments, positive
comments that I was like, Oh,

629
00:50:10.239 --> 00:50:17.760
it felt so good finally to have
other people share their stories with me that

630
00:50:17.840 --> 00:50:23.079
I've had something similar happened with feeling
the vocals or people from New Hampshire that

631
00:50:23.119 --> 00:50:27.559
watched me and be like oh my
god, like I didn't even know what

632
00:50:27.639 --> 00:50:30.320
was going on up here, like
people like I was like, oh,

633
00:50:30.320 --> 00:50:37.360
like, it was such a weight
being lifted off my shoulders after seventeen years

634
00:50:38.039 --> 00:50:45.159
of not telling anyone. So I
get this instant message from a guy I

635
00:50:45.159 --> 00:50:47.480
didn't know, and he's like,
hey man, he's like, I just

636
00:50:47.519 --> 00:50:52.280
saw your your your post on Sasquat's
Chronicles. He's like, I'm from New

637
00:50:52.320 --> 00:50:57.480
Hampshire. He's like, I make
a lot of documentaries, mostly on cryptids.

638
00:50:57.880 --> 00:51:00.400
It's like I do a lot of
local stuff. He's like, if

639
00:51:00.400 --> 00:51:04.280
you ever want He's like, if
I if you could, uh, you

640
00:51:04.280 --> 00:51:07.760
know, fill out this information like
an encounter so he could keep a record

641
00:51:07.760 --> 00:51:10.199
of it. And I was like, oh sure, man, yeah I

642
00:51:10.239 --> 00:51:14.639
could do that, But first I
wanted to look him up. I wanted

643
00:51:14.679 --> 00:51:17.360
to see who this guy was because
I'm not I don't want to be ridiculed.

644
00:51:17.400 --> 00:51:21.480
I don't want to I don't want
to be like like it's a trick,

645
00:51:21.559 --> 00:51:23.039
you know what I mean, like
I'm getting bamboozled or anything, you

646
00:51:23.079 --> 00:51:30.760
know, Like Alexander Petacov, I'm
like, who is this guy? Sounds

647
00:51:30.800 --> 00:51:34.639
weird to me, right, So
I'm looking him. I see his profile

648
00:51:34.760 --> 00:51:37.920
with his camera and he's you know, and he's and I look at his

649
00:51:37.920 --> 00:51:38.599
stuff. He's like, yeah,
I'm a local docum, you know.

650
00:51:38.679 --> 00:51:42.039
He's like, I make a lot
of documentaries. And I was like,

651
00:51:42.039 --> 00:51:45.519
oh wow. So I looked at
all this stuff and I'm like, oh

652
00:51:45.559 --> 00:51:49.480
wow, he is legit, like
he really wants to know. And ever

653
00:51:49.559 --> 00:51:54.679
since that day, like we we
had that connection with the Mountain Hiking because

654
00:51:54.679 --> 00:51:59.159
he's done the New Hampshire forty eight
as well, and I was like,

655
00:51:59.159 --> 00:52:02.960
oh wow, finally someone I could
talk to about this. And of course

656
00:52:04.000 --> 00:52:09.480
everyone now in the YouTube world who
list follows the Sasquatch, you know,

657
00:52:09.880 --> 00:52:14.960
rabbit Hole, knows who Alexander Petacof
is. Now I would hope that everyone

658
00:52:15.119 --> 00:52:20.119
listening knows who Alex Peacock and if
you don't, you really need to bye

659
00:52:20.119 --> 00:52:22.559
bye. I have a few links
in the show nos, just in case

660
00:52:22.639 --> 00:52:29.599
that one person doesn't know that different. So yeah, yeah, because there's

661
00:52:29.719 --> 00:52:32.559
there's something me and Evan found,
you know last year where we had to

662
00:52:32.559 --> 00:52:37.280
call Alex for help on this and
it ended up being a multiple monsters.

663
00:52:37.599 --> 00:52:39.760
He ended up doing up Beyond the
Trail episode without what we found. So

664
00:52:40.320 --> 00:52:45.280
but we'll get into that a little
bit later. Yeah. Um, so

665
00:52:45.440 --> 00:52:49.119
I talked to him and he's like
yeah, He's like, oh, I

666
00:52:49.119 --> 00:52:54.800
have this uh, this Sasquatch out
of the Shadows YouTube channel that's you know,

667
00:52:54.880 --> 00:53:00.119
before that's before he hit like the
let's call him that celebrity in the

668
00:53:00.199 --> 00:53:06.280
Sasquatch. You know. Yeah,
people might not really so that's true.

669
00:53:06.320 --> 00:53:09.800
People might not realize that he has
an amazing YouTube channel with some of the

670
00:53:09.840 --> 00:53:17.159
best big Foot themed interviews that exist
on YouTube. He does, and I'm

671
00:53:17.280 --> 00:53:22.559
counting everyone like, yeah, it
is a great he I mean from Meldrum

672
00:53:22.599 --> 00:53:27.760
to Breed, like he's had everyone
on there. And Alex is very articulate,

673
00:53:27.920 --> 00:53:31.440
he is very good with his words. He's great interviews, great,

674
00:53:31.559 --> 00:53:36.280
just a great guy all around,
you know, I always tell him,

675
00:53:36.280 --> 00:53:37.920
like, Alex, I just you
know, I just talked about you again,

676
00:53:38.079 --> 00:53:42.360
like you know, like yeah,
I'm like guy, nothing bad buddy,

677
00:53:42.360 --> 00:53:47.400
you know, Like but you know, I am so lucky that he

678
00:53:47.519 --> 00:53:53.119
reached out to me, because what
a ride it's been since we've met,

679
00:53:53.519 --> 00:54:00.320
and I'm so lucky to have him
as a friend now. And man,

680
00:54:00.440 --> 00:54:04.400
what a what a great guy.
And uh yeah, anyone out there I

681
00:54:04.400 --> 00:54:07.039
would, I would, yeah,
go onto his He's not on the Sasquatch

682
00:54:07.039 --> 00:54:12.039
out he doesn't do anything much with
it anymore because of the STM. He

683
00:54:12.639 --> 00:54:15.119
doesn't do anything on the Sasquatch out
of the channel. But there's still all

684
00:54:15.159 --> 00:54:20.920
that great content. We're so good, like his first documentaries, you know,

685
00:54:21.079 --> 00:54:23.559
like it's just really good stuff,
just down to earth stuff. It's

686
00:54:23.559 --> 00:54:28.239
just like watching it Beyond the Trail
app pretty much. Yeah it really it

687
00:54:28.280 --> 00:54:32.360
really is. Yeah, it really
is. So now we'll get since now

688
00:54:32.440 --> 00:54:37.400
I said, who I was texting
while all this is going on? Right,

689
00:54:37.800 --> 00:54:40.480
I have no service out there when
those knocks happened where we are,

690
00:54:42.199 --> 00:54:47.559
We're four miles into this hike where
there is nothing else out there, no

691
00:54:47.679 --> 00:54:53.280
service, But I am texting I
must have been. It was so long.

692
00:54:54.039 --> 00:54:59.199
I'm sending him everything that's gone,
so you're texting him without service and

693
00:54:59.199 --> 00:55:05.159
then when you get okay, I
guess right after everything happened. I was

694
00:55:05.239 --> 00:55:08.400
there for probably fifteen minutes. I
am just writing this whole story of what's

695
00:55:08.440 --> 00:55:14.360
going on. Finally I get to
the base of the mountain, after all

696
00:55:14.400 --> 00:55:21.800
this has happened. Um, it
finally goes through. Wait a minute,

697
00:55:21.880 --> 00:55:25.280
what I'm like, Alex. I'm
like, I'm in the Penny Wilderness.

698
00:55:25.320 --> 00:55:29.519
Man. I'm like, I just
had some crazy shit happened. Man.

699
00:55:30.239 --> 00:55:34.280
So I'm like, I will call
you when I get home. I called

700
00:55:34.320 --> 00:55:37.119
him the next day. I called
him the next day and I told him

701
00:55:37.159 --> 00:55:42.119
what happened. He's like, dude, He's like He's like, man,

702
00:55:42.239 --> 00:55:45.199
He's like, you know, if
you want, Brian, it's like,

703
00:55:45.239 --> 00:55:50.719
why don't you come on to my
show and tell your story of what's happened

704
00:55:50.760 --> 00:55:53.639
with you? And I was a
little hesitant at first because, like I

705
00:55:53.679 --> 00:55:58.400
said, I've talked about it one
time and I was to a damn camera,

706
00:55:58.719 --> 00:56:01.119
like I never talked with people,
you know, with with to another

707
00:56:01.159 --> 00:56:05.559
person, and I was like,
you know what, I'm like, I'm

708
00:56:05.559 --> 00:56:08.920
getting all this positive feedback from my
from my post. I'm like, oh

709
00:56:09.119 --> 00:56:14.880
yeah, I'm like, oh,
come on man. So his podcast was

710
00:56:14.920 --> 00:56:20.159
the first podcast I really started to
listen to, like the live streaming right

711
00:56:20.800 --> 00:56:22.679
and he had and you know,
one of the first ones I watched,

712
00:56:22.679 --> 00:56:25.920
he had Doug Hicheck on. I
mean he had Doug Hicheck on twice.

713
00:56:27.039 --> 00:56:30.639
So everyone, I really all the
information I got out of that those two

714
00:56:30.679 --> 00:56:36.880
shows with Hicheck, Oh my god, Yeah, what a wealth of information.

715
00:56:37.079 --> 00:56:38.119
Like I was like when I went
out, I was like a kid

716
00:56:38.119 --> 00:56:42.480
in the candy store. I had
so many questions in the live streams.

717
00:56:42.519 --> 00:56:45.679
I had so many questions and Doug
was answering them all, and I was

718
00:56:45.719 --> 00:56:47.760
like, oh my god. I'm
like, I wish I could have found

719
00:56:47.800 --> 00:56:53.400
this sooner, but I am so
thankful that I finally found this. So

720
00:56:53.519 --> 00:56:59.719
we started talking about this. I'm
like, maybe these these sasquatch have like

721
00:57:00.159 --> 00:57:06.320
kind of scent gland because you hear
some encounters you smell nothing, and you

722
00:57:06.400 --> 00:57:13.119
have others where they smell this stench. So I threw that question out there

723
00:57:13.119 --> 00:57:15.119
and Hicheck was like, yeah,
He's like, I believe these things do

724
00:57:15.280 --> 00:57:21.000
have like some kind of gland that
they can let out this almost like a

725
00:57:21.079 --> 00:57:24.800
defense like a skunk duals as a
defense mechanism. I was like, yes,

726
00:57:25.280 --> 00:57:30.559
I'm like, maybe maybe it could
either all in the South, maybe

727
00:57:30.599 --> 00:57:34.480
they smell a little more because of
the different temperatures, the humidity and up

728
00:57:34.519 --> 00:57:37.599
the north it's not as bad up
here and you're in the higher elevation.

729
00:57:37.760 --> 00:57:39.840
So maybe that that's something. Because
that night in the tent, man,

730
00:57:40.320 --> 00:57:46.719
I smelled nothing smelling. All I
could smell that night was you know how

731
00:57:46.800 --> 00:57:51.599
the like I said, I was
running water, that wet smell, you

732
00:57:51.639 --> 00:57:55.079
know, that misty smell. That's
all I smelled that night. Man.

733
00:57:57.079 --> 00:58:00.320
So but that that got that was
very interesting for what mister Hichick said.

734
00:58:00.880 --> 00:58:07.360
But you know when I went on
alex to show and I started telling them,

735
00:58:07.400 --> 00:58:13.800
you know, what was going on
and everything I've had. Other stuff

736
00:58:13.840 --> 00:58:20.679
happened a week later on, after
all those knocks happened and I did that

737
00:58:20.960 --> 00:58:23.519
that hike, I'm like, I
gotta get back out there. I have

738
00:58:23.639 --> 00:58:29.519
got to get back out there.
The next weekend and I went back out

739
00:58:29.559 --> 00:58:35.079
into the same wilderness, that same
Pemmi wilderness, and I wanted to do

740
00:58:35.920 --> 00:58:37.559
You could do the Pemmy loop,
like I said, it's a thirty one

741
00:58:37.639 --> 00:58:40.880
point five mile totally like, or
you could do a semi You could do

742
00:58:40.920 --> 00:58:45.199
a semi Pemmy loop. You could
do half of it because there's a trail

743
00:58:45.239 --> 00:58:47.679
that runs all the way up that
thirteen Falls trail is what I took when

744
00:58:47.679 --> 00:58:52.039
I saw the moose. You could
keep taking that straight up and you could

745
00:58:52.039 --> 00:58:54.199
just cut that Pemmi loop in half. You just do half of it.

746
00:58:54.920 --> 00:58:59.360
My goal was to go knock a
couple more mountains that I didn't get.

747
00:58:59.440 --> 00:59:01.760
I'm like, I'm knock those two
off, but I'm gonna make I'm gonna

748
00:59:01.800 --> 00:59:07.400
make it worth it and do a
semi Pemmy loop. So I'm right back

749
00:59:07.400 --> 00:59:12.840
out there next weekend. Man.
And what was great about this weekend It

750
00:59:12.880 --> 00:59:15.840
was Memorial Day weekend. Okay,
it was the end, you know.

751
00:59:15.719 --> 00:59:22.800
And what was good was that it
was the long weekend. But what sucked

752
00:59:22.079 --> 00:59:27.400
is the weather. The weather I
knew the next day on my day two

753
00:59:27.480 --> 00:59:30.360
hike was going to be sixty percent
rain, forty to fifty mile an hour

754
00:59:30.519 --> 00:59:35.760
winds by June. So by now, so I knew that next morning I

755
00:59:35.880 --> 00:59:40.199
really had to hustle to get out
of there. So I'm going back down

756
00:59:40.880 --> 00:59:45.440
and it's starting to rain, extremely
windy. The good thing was that because

757
00:59:45.440 --> 00:59:49.719
the weather was so bad, there
weren't a lot of people out. So,

758
00:59:50.119 --> 00:59:52.719
like I said, I love when
I had the trail to myself,

759
00:59:53.480 --> 00:59:58.719
no matter what's happened, I still
love it. We're going down this thirteen

760
00:59:58.760 --> 01:00:01.039
false trail again, and it's it's
right me where I had the moose encounter,

761
01:00:01.440 --> 01:00:05.920
you know, two three years prior, you know, and I'm like,

762
01:00:05.920 --> 01:00:08.199
oh, this is great. Like
I'm going down this corridor of gain

763
01:00:08.400 --> 01:00:15.320
that that that that tube of a
foliage, and when I'm getting to the

764
01:00:15.440 --> 01:00:20.559
end of these heights, it's kind
of when I'll stop. That's when I'll

765
01:00:20.599 --> 01:00:22.559
stop looking around, you know what
I mean. I'll watch my dog.

766
01:00:22.880 --> 01:00:27.639
I'll see how what he's looking at, you know, if he kind of

767
01:00:27.719 --> 01:00:30.679
perks up and looks, I'll look
what he's looking you know, because I

768
01:00:31.039 --> 01:00:37.239
know my dog so well, right, and I'll know what he'll chase and

769
01:00:37.280 --> 01:00:39.760
what he won't chase. So I
know, if it's anything bigger than a

770
01:00:39.800 --> 01:00:44.599
moose, he's not moving, he's
high, he's gonna hide behind dad,

771
01:00:44.800 --> 01:00:47.920
you know. Yeah, So we're
at the tail end. Then it's raining

772
01:00:47.960 --> 01:00:52.519
on and off, and I'm walking
and we're kind of like this this muddy

773
01:00:52.679 --> 01:00:55.880
area, very muddy from the rain, and it was kind of like a

774
01:00:57.039 --> 01:01:04.239
little swampy area and I'm looking off
the embankment and it was just this smooth

775
01:01:04.320 --> 01:01:08.360
as peanut butter, uh like a
like a quick mud. It was a

776
01:01:08.480 --> 01:01:14.119
very big area and it was just
so smooth, but it was just weird,

777
01:01:15.440 --> 01:01:20.159
like big circular impression in the middle, Like, oh, that's odd.

778
01:01:20.480 --> 01:01:22.280
I'm like, what was that?
Because there was nothing else within twenty

779
01:01:22.280 --> 01:01:25.599
feet of it. It was just
this perfect like I said, smooth,

780
01:01:27.559 --> 01:01:30.280
smooth as ice, but this's just
this big at this big impression, circular

781
01:01:30.320 --> 01:01:32.800
impression in the middle, and I'm
like wow. I'm like, I'm gonna

782
01:01:32.800 --> 01:01:36.679
try to get up and take a
picture with my camera with my home.

783
01:01:36.960 --> 01:01:40.800
I'm gonna go near the embankment.
I'm not going into that quick mud because

784
01:01:42.079 --> 01:01:45.159
if I go into that quick mud, man, it's like that lift your

785
01:01:45.159 --> 01:01:49.079
boot up, you might lose your
boot. And I didn't want my dog

786
01:01:49.159 --> 01:01:52.079
from my dog follows me everywhere.
I'm like, right, he carries a

787
01:01:52.119 --> 01:01:54.199
pack. I don't want him going
into the mud and getting it all.

788
01:01:54.280 --> 01:01:58.239
I keep my video equipment some of
my stuff in his pack as well,

789
01:01:58.280 --> 01:02:01.039
so I could just hurry up and
grab it. Yeah. So he's off

790
01:02:01.039 --> 01:02:06.639
to the side of me, and
I got this forty pound pack. Now

791
01:02:06.639 --> 01:02:09.519
this is day two. This is
two weeks in a row of long hikes.

792
01:02:09.639 --> 01:02:14.599
I did the Owl's Head the week
beef prior. That was seventeen point

793
01:02:14.639 --> 01:02:17.760
two. Now this one is over
twenty miles, but I went over six

794
01:02:17.800 --> 01:02:23.039
peaks, So I am I am
physically exam man, Like I remember at

795
01:02:23.039 --> 01:02:25.920
the end of this hike, even
though I'm kind of looking around for tracks

796
01:02:25.960 --> 01:02:30.719
and just looking like just being aware
of my surroundings, like I am just

797
01:02:30.840 --> 01:02:36.079
I am so fatigued, like on
this I remember this was like the worst

798
01:02:36.239 --> 01:02:40.480
ending to one of my hikes because
I am fighting fighting. Every step is

799
01:02:40.519 --> 01:02:45.159
just like ah, And like I
said, you're carrying this big pack and

800
01:02:45.199 --> 01:02:50.079
it's just I'm like, I still
have another six miles, you know,

801
01:02:50.400 --> 01:02:54.199
at least I'm back onto the flat. So as I'm going out to get

802
01:02:54.239 --> 01:02:58.559
this this photo of this, this
just to it could have been anything.

803
01:02:58.639 --> 01:03:01.800
It could have been like an animal
that from a tree branch and just right

804
01:03:01.840 --> 01:03:05.000
into the middle. You know,
it was just around and I wanted to

805
01:03:05.039 --> 01:03:08.320
just try to get a photo of
it. Now, as I'm doing this

806
01:03:10.519 --> 01:03:17.800
off to the diagonal, like off
to the right, I'm hearing bipedal footsteps,

807
01:03:17.800 --> 01:03:23.719
Like really, that's wild. Oh
wow. Now I'm out in the

808
01:03:23.760 --> 01:03:28.719
middle of nowhere. Yeah, you're
way out there were your miles away from

809
01:03:28.719 --> 01:03:34.039
everyone. Man, six miles away. Now, anyone that's listened to this

810
01:03:34.159 --> 01:03:39.599
right now, I highly suggest go
on Google Earth. Put in Owl's Head.

811
01:03:39.920 --> 01:03:45.880
Okay, you're gonna see the Lincoln
Brook Trail and the Franconia Brook Trail,

812
01:03:45.119 --> 01:03:49.559
and you're gonna see the Pemmy Wilderness. You're gonna see how far out

813
01:03:49.639 --> 01:03:52.239
I was on this Franconia Brook Trail. I am six miles away from my

814
01:03:52.320 --> 01:03:59.280
truck. Okay, the the only
the closest trail to me was three miles

815
01:04:00.039 --> 01:04:04.000
way off to me to do the
Owl's Head at least three miles. So

816
01:04:04.039 --> 01:04:09.239
I'm like who the first thing,
I'm like, who the hell is walking

817
01:04:09.559 --> 01:04:15.679
off trail on a day like this
in the middle of nowhere. As I'm

818
01:04:15.719 --> 01:04:24.360
hearing this and I make a movement
down to look, it stops. The

819
01:04:26.000 --> 01:04:31.000
steps stop. I look over to
my dog to see what he's doing.

820
01:04:32.119 --> 01:04:38.800
Now, Like I said, when
Chewy sees an animal, darra loa,

821
01:04:39.440 --> 01:04:45.639
he's gonna chase that friggingt thing.
He is just staring to the direction I

822
01:04:45.719 --> 01:04:50.039
heard the steps and he's not moving. Man, he is on high alert

823
01:04:50.480 --> 01:04:56.039
and he is not moving. So
what I stopped doing. I have the

824
01:04:56.159 --> 01:05:00.079
like these these evergreens in front of
me, and then there's like this is

825
01:05:00.599 --> 01:05:04.480
like a nice open area and then
more trees scattered. I'm going like this,

826
01:05:05.440 --> 01:05:11.440
I'm rocking looking in between the trees
like this seeing I don't know why

827
01:05:11.760 --> 01:05:15.039
I started doing that. I think
it was I wanted to stay quiet.

828
01:05:15.119 --> 01:05:17.159
I didn't want to keep like pittering
around. I wanted to see if I

829
01:05:17.159 --> 01:05:21.880
could see what was doing that.
Wow, I'm like, that's not a

830
01:05:21.920 --> 01:05:27.320
freaking person. Chewie is not a
people person. If he sees a person,

831
01:05:27.360 --> 01:05:30.960
he's gonna growl or he's gonna be
like he's not He's not gonna run

832
01:05:30.079 --> 01:05:33.800
up to a human, you know
what I mean. But he will growl

833
01:05:34.320 --> 01:05:39.880
at the person or someone's gonna say, oh hey, you know, could

834
01:05:39.920 --> 01:05:42.559
you put your dog on leash?
Or if it was a human, you

835
01:05:42.559 --> 01:05:48.639
know, what I mean to just
stop and not move any blow. So

836
01:05:49.480 --> 01:05:54.000
as all this is going on,
I am frozen now my dog is off

837
01:05:54.079 --> 01:05:59.599
leash. Okay. I want to
bring up this encounter that Evan told me

838
01:05:59.639 --> 01:06:05.400
about because through through me telling my
story, Evan reached out because he heard

839
01:06:06.360 --> 01:06:11.239
what happened to me with the vocals
and he had something similar happened to him

840
01:06:11.360 --> 01:06:15.039
with the vocals where he thought it
felt like a cat was purring on his

841
01:06:15.159 --> 01:06:18.400
chip, on his on his neck, that's how he was his vibration.

842
01:06:19.079 --> 01:06:24.320
So we had me and evn't had
that connection and we and when I came

843
01:06:24.320 --> 01:06:28.679
out my story, we have become
very close friends talking. You know how

844
01:06:28.679 --> 01:06:30.960
it is when you talk with your
sas Watch buddies. You could talk.

845
01:06:30.000 --> 01:06:34.519
Oh yeah, totally And I'm sure
a lot of listeners get that for sure.

846
01:06:34.679 --> 01:06:39.400
Yeah. I've talked to this guy
for hours on all the encounters in

847
01:06:39.440 --> 01:06:44.960
New Hampshire that people don't want anyone
else to know. Yeah, a lot

848
01:06:45.000 --> 01:06:48.360
because it's on private land people don't
want to mess with. But he told

849
01:06:48.400 --> 01:06:56.239
me this one. It's on Instagram. I highly recommend anyone that is interested

850
01:06:56.280 --> 01:07:02.039
in this story go to Hampshire SaaS
Watch on Instagram, he puts out,

851
01:07:02.639 --> 01:07:09.800
He'll put where the encounter was.
He'll have a picture of where the encounter

852
01:07:09.960 --> 01:07:15.039
was, you know, from Google
Earth, and he'll have someone illustrate what

853
01:07:15.280 --> 01:07:19.400
happened, you know, like a
drawing of what happened. So he's telling

854
01:07:19.400 --> 01:07:25.559
me about this one that happened on
a Mount Cabin. Now Mount Cabin is

855
01:07:25.599 --> 01:07:30.880
the furthest four thousand footer, the
northernmost four thousand footer in New Hampshire because

856
01:07:30.880 --> 01:07:34.840
then you have Vermont and then you
have Maine. So when you're up at

857
01:07:34.880 --> 01:07:40.119
that peak on Cabin, you're looking
at Vermont, You're you're right on the

858
01:07:40.159 --> 01:07:45.119
border. Okay. Now this Mount
Cabin at the base of this where you

859
01:07:45.239 --> 01:07:49.599
park is the New Hampshire Fishing Game
Fish Hatchery where they do all their fish

860
01:07:49.599 --> 01:07:54.280
spawning, free food for wildlife,
you know what I mean. Oh yeah,

861
01:07:54.360 --> 01:07:58.639
no, that's perfect. Now this
area is thick, so thick of

862
01:07:58.719 --> 01:08:01.840
vegetation. It looks like now if
anyone has not been to Vermont, it's

863
01:08:01.920 --> 01:08:08.280
the maple trees Deloire. Okay,
greenest, beautiful, beautiful area. I

864
01:08:08.360 --> 01:08:12.800
mean, when you are you want
to see green. If you can't go

865
01:08:12.880 --> 01:08:17.239
to Ireland, go to Ramma right, it's gorgeous, especially in the fall.

866
01:08:17.600 --> 01:08:21.399
Vermont is gorgeous for the fall foliage. It's like it's it's like the

867
01:08:21.479 --> 01:08:28.720
forest is on fire with oranges,
yellows, reds. But this woman is

868
01:08:28.760 --> 01:08:32.840
doing a mountain hike, a sunset
hike up to the cabin on mount Cabin.

869
01:08:33.239 --> 01:08:36.399
There's a cabin you can stay in
in the peak. I've never done

870
01:08:36.439 --> 01:08:40.800
it, obviously because of what's happened
to me. Alex has stayed in that

871
01:08:40.960 --> 01:08:44.560
thing Pedacoff. He stayed in that
overnight and he said, if you don't

872
01:08:44.600 --> 01:08:48.800
mind mice, He's like, it's
a great scuse the solitude. Oh,

873
01:08:48.920 --> 01:08:54.439
it's funny. Yeah, So he's
telling me. This woman goes with a

874
01:08:54.520 --> 01:08:58.560
dog, a shepherd, a German
shepherd like chewy, and off leash,

875
01:08:58.960 --> 01:09:00.840
and the dog was ahead of her. Now she's going up to this this

876
01:09:01.079 --> 01:09:08.520
this cabin to catch the sunset.
Now when she notices her dog stop and

877
01:09:08.600 --> 01:09:13.880
look at the tree line and it's
growling. The dog is growling at the

878
01:09:13.920 --> 01:09:17.239
tree line, and this woman's like, you know, trying to recall her

879
01:09:17.319 --> 01:09:23.760
dog. Dog won't move. All
of a sudden, this big creature comes

880
01:09:23.800 --> 01:09:30.439
out grabs the dog. Now,
this woman goes in shock, like fear,

881
01:09:30.840 --> 01:09:35.960
your fear. Now her dog is
yelping, okay, yelping with the

882
01:09:36.199 --> 01:09:41.159
with the thing with the creature has
the thing in its arms. I hate

883
01:09:41.199 --> 01:09:45.119
telling this story, but it's because
of what happened to us with those footsteps.

884
01:09:45.159 --> 01:09:50.760
I gotta tell it. The creature
just snaps that dog's neck and walks

885
01:09:50.800 --> 01:09:59.720
off with it. And she called
the cops. She called the cops.

886
01:10:00.119 --> 01:10:02.359
Then what happened? And of course
this is what the cops said, Oh,

887
01:10:02.359 --> 01:10:05.520
it was probably a bear. It's
probably a bear. I was like,

888
01:10:08.560 --> 01:10:11.640
she told Evan what it was.
You know, she's like a sasquatch

889
01:10:11.720 --> 01:10:15.039
came out, grabbed my dog and
broke its neck. Now she was hysterical.

890
01:10:15.399 --> 01:10:20.399
Okay, when I hear that,
because I'm always hiking alone with my

891
01:10:20.560 --> 01:10:25.479
dog, I don't want anything bad
happened to my best buddy, you know

892
01:10:25.479 --> 01:10:28.439
what I mean. Like he has
been on every hike with me. He

893
01:10:28.640 --> 01:10:32.319
is with me every day. You
know, he's he's like my he's like

894
01:10:32.439 --> 01:10:35.520
my son for crying out loud,
you know what I mean. I don't

895
01:10:35.520 --> 01:10:42.920
need anything bad happened to my dog. So when those footsteps stopped, when

896
01:10:42.960 --> 01:10:47.800
we're on that trail. I got
really scared. I got I got really

897
01:10:48.279 --> 01:10:51.159
scared. I got scared for my
dog. I was scared for me,

898
01:10:51.399 --> 01:10:54.960
but I was scared. I didn't
want anything bad happened to my dog.

899
01:10:56.520 --> 01:11:00.439
So I go like this to the
dog. I didn't want to a huge

900
01:11:00.520 --> 01:11:02.520
noise because I wanted to I wanted
to see if I could see what was

901
01:11:02.600 --> 01:11:09.279
making those footsteps. I'm like,
He looks at me and then stares right

902
01:11:09.359 --> 01:11:13.159
back to where we heard that,
and I was like, oh my god.

903
01:11:13.520 --> 01:11:16.319
I'm like, something big it's there. Because, like I said,

904
01:11:16.359 --> 01:11:18.720
if it was it was an animal. Like I said, I heard the

905
01:11:18.800 --> 01:11:26.279
bipedal. There's a big difference between
two steps and a four legged creature.

906
01:11:26.399 --> 01:11:32.479
You know, there's more this was. It was clear as day, and

907
01:11:32.640 --> 01:11:38.279
because of the rain and it was
muddy, you could really hear footsteps pretty

908
01:11:38.279 --> 01:11:41.479
good, especially when you're out in
the middle of nowhere. It's so quiet

909
01:11:41.520 --> 01:11:45.199
out there, you have none of
that ambient now sound, so you could

910
01:11:45.279 --> 01:11:48.000
hear it and clear as day.
So I'm like, oh my god.

911
01:11:48.960 --> 01:11:53.039
So as soon as I saw him
look back, I went right over to

912
01:11:53.119 --> 01:11:55.800
him man, and I latched him
up. I latched him up. I

913
01:11:56.000 --> 01:11:59.840
waited I waited now during this whole
ordeal, like I said, this is

914
01:11:59.880 --> 01:12:01.640
the end of our hike. I
didn't have my goal pro going. My

915
01:12:01.880 --> 01:12:08.520
goal pro was dead. It was
raining in that state where I didn't care.

916
01:12:08.760 --> 01:12:10.760
I'm at the end of the hike. It's raining. I feel like

917
01:12:10.920 --> 01:12:15.800
crap my feet, my feet or
beat from from these two long weekends of

918
01:12:15.920 --> 01:12:19.039
hiking. Like I had nothing left
in the tank, nothing left, and

919
01:12:19.159 --> 01:12:24.600
I was like, oh my god. But it was that feeling. And

920
01:12:24.720 --> 01:12:27.319
this has happened to Alex and one
of his buddies on one of his hikes.

921
01:12:27.520 --> 01:12:31.359
It's that feeling of being watched.
Oh absolute, I've been there's so

922
01:12:31.520 --> 01:12:34.399
much. I don't exactly what you're
talking about, dude, I don't know.

923
01:12:35.840 --> 01:12:41.680
There stands up. Oh yeah,
And it's almost like it's like I

924
01:12:41.960 --> 01:12:45.640
felt like, pray, it must
be way Like I think of a bunny

925
01:12:45.760 --> 01:12:51.199
rabbit, right, and this maybe
the big bad wolf is there that instant

926
01:12:53.119 --> 01:12:57.720
like that sixth like that sixth sense. I think we all we all have

927
01:12:58.000 --> 01:13:03.760
them. We all have that,
but we lose because of technology. We

928
01:13:03.960 --> 01:13:06.359
kind of lose our senses, do
you know what I mean? We rely

929
01:13:06.640 --> 01:13:12.359
too much on certain things. I
think personally, I think we'd lose touch

930
01:13:12.439 --> 01:13:16.560
with that. And a lot of
these outdoorsmen, a lot of these people

931
01:13:16.600 --> 01:13:20.039
that are out in the wilderness a
lot, I think they kind of their

932
01:13:20.119 --> 01:13:25.560
senses get heightened. So I think
of all the hiking we've been doing for

933
01:13:25.760 --> 01:13:31.840
all these years. I felt like
someone who was watching me during this whole

934
01:13:32.000 --> 01:13:36.039
thing. Like my arm hair was
raised, I had the goose bumps,

935
01:13:36.159 --> 01:13:42.479
my neck hair that tingling. You
get that tingling sensation over your body to

936
01:13:42.600 --> 01:13:45.800
where like I am being stoked.
A something is just watching me. It's

937
01:13:45.880 --> 01:13:50.920
not moving, it's not moving.
And I told people how thick vegetation is.

938
01:13:53.279 --> 01:13:56.079
Now a lot of people are gonna
say, why did this guy just

939
01:13:56.239 --> 01:14:00.159
go and walk in and see what
it was? Right? Yeah, you're

940
01:14:00.199 --> 01:14:03.720
going to understand something when you're out
on the wilderness and you're alone and you

941
01:14:03.800 --> 01:14:09.520
don't have a weapon. My only
weapon is a freaking six inch knife That

942
01:14:09.720 --> 01:14:13.399
isn't going to do much any big
animal without me having to get really close,

943
01:14:13.640 --> 01:14:16.520
you know what I mean? Absolutely, Yeah, here comes over you.

944
01:14:17.000 --> 01:14:20.720
It's like a blanket, it just
washes over you. I was scared

945
01:14:20.840 --> 01:14:26.079
for me, I'm scared for my
dog. I don't want anything bad happening,

946
01:14:26.560 --> 01:14:30.760
But that freaking encounter that Evan tells
me is in my head. At

947
01:14:30.840 --> 01:14:36.880
that moment, I was so scared. Jeremiah. I'm like, I'm leashing

948
01:14:36.960 --> 01:14:40.880
up the dog and I'm getting hot
of here. Man, it's bad,

949
01:14:41.119 --> 01:14:45.039
you know, with all this shit
that's happened to me, especially that night

950
01:14:45.079 --> 01:14:48.920
in the tent, like I want
to see it. I want to see

951
01:14:48.960 --> 01:14:55.880
it, but I don't want anything
ruining my love of the wilderness. I

952
01:14:55.920 --> 01:14:59.680
don't want anything to ruin what I'd
love to do. I'd love to go

953
01:14:59.800 --> 01:15:02.199
with my dog and I love to
hike. I love to be alone out

954
01:15:02.239 --> 01:15:06.880
there and hike. I don't want
anything bad happening, and that that that

955
01:15:08.079 --> 01:15:14.680
Mount Cabot encounter just sticks in my
mind on every hike now when something weird

956
01:15:14.800 --> 01:15:16.359
goes on, I'm like, I
don't want nothing happened in a Chewy.

957
01:15:16.840 --> 01:15:19.880
I latched him up, man,
didn't do anything with the go pro.

958
01:15:20.000 --> 01:15:23.880
I'm like, I am not changing
the batteries. I am not doing what

959
01:15:24.039 --> 01:15:28.560
I did the week before and say, oh my god, this just happened.

960
01:15:28.600 --> 01:15:30.880
You know. I don't want to
be that guy that just keeps puts

961
01:15:30.880 --> 01:15:33.760
out stuff but doesn't get anything,
you know what I mean. I don't

962
01:15:33.800 --> 01:15:38.239
want to. I don't need to
do that. I did it already.

963
01:15:38.399 --> 01:15:41.279
I don't need to be like,
Oh, they're gonna think this guy's bullshit.

964
01:15:41.439 --> 01:15:45.359
And you know, so probably for
that ten to fifteen minutes, man,

965
01:15:45.880 --> 01:15:49.199
I just kept turning and looking behind
me as I'm walking because I just

966
01:15:49.359 --> 01:15:54.079
had that feeling of being watched,
you know what I mean. And I

967
01:15:54.239 --> 01:15:59.880
know exactly where it happened, you
know, and I I haven't been back

968
01:16:00.039 --> 01:16:03.319
there since this happens, um,
but want to go back out there this

969
01:16:03.479 --> 01:16:05.920
year, you know what. Evan
wants to go out there with me,

970
01:16:06.319 --> 01:16:12.920
so um a little spoiler alert,
UM, I know, Alex, we're

971
01:16:12.920 --> 01:16:15.359
going to be playing in a trip
up to northern New Hampshire to Colas County,

972
01:16:15.439 --> 01:16:19.880
home of the Wood Devil, and
man, yeah, and we're gonna

973
01:16:19.920 --> 01:16:24.840
do it. He'll do it beyond
the trail episode on Coas County and and

974
01:16:25.199 --> 01:16:29.479
out there. And that's probably the
last time I'll tell my encounter, you

975
01:16:29.600 --> 01:16:34.680
know, because iode, Yeah,
that'll be my last a lot because this

976
01:16:35.039 --> 01:16:38.199
I told my wife today, I'm
like, you know, this is probably

977
01:16:38.239 --> 01:16:42.399
the last live stream I'm gonna do
telling my story. You know, I've

978
01:16:42.479 --> 01:16:47.520
told it enough, like it's out
there. But there comes a time when

979
01:16:47.640 --> 01:16:51.720
you know I've said it enough,
you know, like it's it's ran its

980
01:16:51.760 --> 01:17:00.520
course for me, Like I've I
finally come because for years, man,

981
01:17:00.840 --> 01:17:02.439
after that tent and count, I'm
like, man, I'm like, I

982
01:17:02.560 --> 01:17:05.680
wish I could have just opened up
that tent and peeked my head out.

983
01:17:06.640 --> 01:17:10.680
But you gotta think, like a
lot of people probably say, why did

984
01:17:10.720 --> 01:17:14.880
this guy just open the tent after
all that happens? Like you don't when

985
01:17:14.920 --> 01:17:18.000
you hear something you don't know what
it is and it's the middle of the

986
01:17:18.119 --> 01:17:23.720
night and you're with your family.
I didn't want that thing coming back,

987
01:17:23.880 --> 01:17:26.680
man, Like I didn't know what
it was. I didn't want to coming

988
01:17:26.720 --> 01:17:31.079
back. But I finally come to
terms with I was so frozen in fear

989
01:17:31.319 --> 01:17:39.119
that night. I don't know,
Like like like we were just talking about

990
01:17:39.159 --> 01:17:45.319
before with you had Martin Groves on
recently, and man, I was listening

991
01:17:45.359 --> 01:17:51.039
to it today actually before this episode
and and and he's talking about the vocals

992
01:17:51.640 --> 01:17:57.399
and a word for word. It
was like I was telling it you like

993
01:17:57.520 --> 01:18:00.600
the same exact thing happened to him
in his and I was like, oh

994
01:18:00.720 --> 01:18:05.119
my god, like the guttural growled
right, he heard that. Now,

995
01:18:05.159 --> 01:18:09.720
I don't know how loud it was
for him. I would love to talk

996
01:18:09.760 --> 01:18:13.359
to him sometime about that, you
know, because we share that connection.

997
01:18:13.960 --> 01:18:17.399
And I love talking to other people
that have had a similar experience to me,

998
01:18:17.560 --> 01:18:20.319
because man, I have talked about
like six or seven people that'd be

999
01:18:20.359 --> 01:18:24.520
like, yeah, like I have
felt that vocal. Some people have heard

1000
01:18:24.560 --> 01:18:27.000
it from like, oh it was. It was. It was far away,

1001
01:18:27.119 --> 01:18:30.760
but it was a stream. For
me, it was it was the

1002
01:18:30.000 --> 01:18:34.279
depth of it. It wasn't loud. It wasn't loud. It was just

1003
01:18:34.439 --> 01:18:41.680
a just a breath like a and
then into a grunt and then it's going

1004
01:18:41.760 --> 01:18:46.119
to run. But man, it
vibrated me. It vibrated my ears,

1005
01:18:46.479 --> 01:18:50.319
like, oh my god. Like
to be able to share that with someone

1006
01:18:50.359 --> 01:18:55.079
else who has had that, it's
just like I still get a rush.

1007
01:18:55.119 --> 01:18:57.760
When I heard it. I couldn't
believe it. I'm like, oh my

1008
01:18:57.840 --> 01:19:01.119
god, I'm about to talk to
Jeremiah about this. You just you just

1009
01:19:01.399 --> 01:19:05.800
heard it the last week. It's
very weird. Yeah, no, then

1010
01:19:05.880 --> 01:19:10.399
it is now now where I now
I hear it and I'm like, oh,

1011
01:19:10.560 --> 01:19:15.079
there's another one. There's another one
who that we share the same encounter.

1012
01:19:15.279 --> 01:19:21.800
So now after all that, after
going on alex a show, after

1013
01:19:21.880 --> 01:19:27.520
having the footsteps, after the relief
of getting out of that area, because

1014
01:19:27.560 --> 01:19:30.880
I didn't feel safe, man,
until I got back to that Franconia Lincoln

1015
01:19:30.920 --> 01:19:34.880
Brook. You know, it took
me back onto that logging road, that

1016
01:19:35.039 --> 01:19:40.039
Lincoln Woods, that that took me
to the end. And I was just

1017
01:19:40.439 --> 01:19:43.079
a sense of relief. But it
was like, oh my god, I'm

1018
01:19:43.119 --> 01:19:47.439
like, this is such a hot
zone now where we are in these ravines.

1019
01:19:48.279 --> 01:19:51.800
It's it's just it's it's brooks that
flew for miles. To me,

1020
01:19:53.159 --> 01:19:59.960
that's like that's that's a wildlife highway. Follow the water on all these high

1021
01:20:00.119 --> 01:20:02.800
So I'm going into this penmy,
you're following the Brooks man, You're following

1022
01:20:02.840 --> 01:20:10.880
these intersecting brooks all the way from
miles and miles so to to to me,

1023
01:20:11.079 --> 01:20:15.680
the power lines, uh like brooks
streams. To me, that's like

1024
01:20:15.760 --> 01:20:20.319
a that's like that's a Sasquatch highway, you know what I mean. So,

1025
01:20:21.319 --> 01:20:26.880
after all this this stuff has happened, and you know, I've told

1026
01:20:26.920 --> 01:20:30.359
a couple of people and I've made
some new friends about it. Um,

1027
01:20:31.720 --> 01:20:38.359
what me and Evan wanted to do. Uh, because his encounter I'll go

1028
01:20:38.520 --> 01:20:41.760
into it real briefly. It's a
quick encounter, but it's it's why we

1029
01:20:42.159 --> 01:20:47.479
you know friends. Um. Hiss
happened in twenty eighteen, in November.

1030
01:20:47.560 --> 01:20:55.640
It was Thanksgiving night twenty eighteen.
He is driving on this road in central

1031
01:20:55.680 --> 01:21:01.640
New Hampshire and about I think it
was a month prior, he had lost

1032
01:21:01.720 --> 01:21:05.520
his best friend in a car accident, somebody grew up with. So he

1033
01:21:05.680 --> 01:21:12.560
was very depressed, very emotional,
and he said what he would do at

1034
01:21:12.680 --> 01:21:15.359
night. He would just go for
these rides on the back roads of New

1035
01:21:15.399 --> 01:21:20.960
Hampshire. And this was a snowy
night. Um. He's got his high

1036
01:21:21.000 --> 01:21:26.319
beams on a lot of these roads
in New Hampshire, very windy dirt roads.

1037
01:21:29.159 --> 01:21:33.600
So as he's coming around this bend
um his lights. He thought it

1038
01:21:33.800 --> 01:21:40.720
was reflectors on a tree because he's
coming up on it and he sees the

1039
01:21:40.760 --> 01:21:45.600
big amber light of reflectors and as
he's getting closer, all of a sudden

1040
01:21:45.680 --> 01:21:53.119
he sees an arm go up over
it. As he sees the hair on

1041
01:21:53.760 --> 01:22:00.319
the tree on the arm, and
he sees the snow beads on hair.

1042
01:22:00.880 --> 01:22:04.239
Wow, what I mean? And
he pulls up and his high beams are

1043
01:22:04.279 --> 01:22:09.000
shining right on this thing. He
stops his vehicle and the thing is is

1044
01:22:09.039 --> 01:22:13.560
right from him fifteen fifteen yards.
He saw everything. I mean, he

1045
01:22:13.640 --> 01:22:17.359
knew it was a male. That's
how much he saw everything. And this

1046
01:22:17.600 --> 01:22:23.800
thing we went when we went back
to his to his encounter spot just this

1047
01:22:24.079 --> 01:22:30.560
last year, it was about eight
feet tall. Because what's cool about he

1048
01:22:30.720 --> 01:22:34.039
knew exactly where his encounter was is
when the snow plows go by on these

1049
01:22:34.119 --> 01:22:39.560
roads, they get so close to
the trees, they lead divits from the

1050
01:22:39.640 --> 01:22:43.640
plow hit in the tree. You
know exactly where the spot was because there's

1051
01:22:43.640 --> 01:22:49.520
a big divot. So he said, the creature looked at him when he

1052
01:22:49.680 --> 01:22:54.119
stopped the high beams around this sucker. He's in a little ultimat he's in

1053
01:22:54.199 --> 01:23:01.960
this smaller and he could a flip
my car. He's like, let it

1054
01:23:02.159 --> 01:23:06.680
looked at him like with this look
of disgust and let out this puff.

1055
01:23:08.279 --> 01:23:11.359
He probably thought it was probably like
I hear that. I hear that so

1056
01:23:11.560 --> 01:23:14.800
many times. You don't even know, Brian, I heard that same exact

1057
01:23:14.880 --> 01:23:16.560
thing. Sorry to interrupt you.
But it's like, oh no, I've

1058
01:23:16.600 --> 01:23:21.359
heard it a solid four to five
times in interviews where it's like and it's

1059
01:23:21.399 --> 01:23:26.439
like we heard this, like this
huff, like there was a disappointment or

1060
01:23:26.560 --> 01:23:30.239
like disregard. It's the weirdest thing
that people bring up. Dude. He

1061
01:23:30.319 --> 01:23:33.359
said it was like apparent looking at
their child, like yeah, wrong.

1062
01:23:34.680 --> 01:23:39.880
That fascinated me. Now. He
said he saw the puff because it was

1063
01:23:39.920 --> 01:23:44.000
so cold out. He saw the
breath, the puff of air come out,

1064
01:23:44.439 --> 01:23:47.079
and he said it just turned and
walked away, and he was so

1065
01:23:47.279 --> 01:23:49.960
effed up from that. He was
like, oh my god, I'm like

1066
01:23:50.119 --> 01:23:54.960
I just saw I just saw a
sasquatch. He drove away, Man,

1067
01:23:55.279 --> 01:24:02.880
he drove away. But that like
knowing that just the way he tells it

1068
01:24:03.000 --> 01:24:06.159
an encounter, and how much it
like it affects him to like he doesn't

1069
01:24:06.199 --> 01:24:10.960
want to stay out at night like
camping. He can't. He has to

1070
01:24:11.000 --> 01:24:14.279
stay in like a van if he's
going to stay out. Like it affects

1071
01:24:14.760 --> 01:24:16.640
It affects a lot of people.
It affecting me where I you know,

1072
01:24:16.760 --> 01:24:20.319
I still can't camp alone, you
know what I mean? Until this a

1073
01:24:20.399 --> 01:24:23.720
couple of weeks ago, I was
going to try it until Chewy, you

1074
01:24:23.760 --> 01:24:26.199
know, I was out with Alex. We're going out on to do an

1075
01:24:26.239 --> 01:24:31.039
investigation out in Alex's hot spot where
we started to go back to his The

1076
01:24:31.239 --> 01:24:39.279
first beyond the Trail episode was called
Granted Estate Bigfoot exactly. That is Alex

1077
01:24:39.439 --> 01:24:44.960
is when the pandemic was going on, he was going every day to this

1078
01:24:45.159 --> 01:24:46.960
spot because there was nothing else to
do. He would go out there,

1079
01:24:47.119 --> 01:24:51.439
shoot guns, do whatever, go
out there research before we even knew about

1080
01:24:51.439 --> 01:24:56.199
the guy that was having all the
encounters out there. And Alex has had

1081
01:24:56.239 --> 01:25:00.000
some some weird stuff happening out there
as well with some knocks. So he's

1082
01:25:00.039 --> 01:25:01.880
like, hey man, He's like, you want to go, you know,

1083
01:25:02.039 --> 01:25:06.479
let's go back out to my to
that spot and uh, we'll go

1084
01:25:06.600 --> 01:25:11.039
do a couple investigations. It was
actually a night that we were all on

1085
01:25:11.119 --> 01:25:16.439
the phone that night. Yet that
night, I don't listeners are gonna have

1086
01:25:16.640 --> 01:25:24.479
to just imagine HERM won't even bring
up Tate. That's that's sorry, guys.

1087
01:25:25.159 --> 01:25:29.720
You have to use your imagination of
what yes for all those ways.

1088
01:25:30.159 --> 01:25:35.479
For anyone that knows Tate Aeronomus,
Yeah, gotta love Tate. You cannot

1089
01:25:35.800 --> 01:25:40.600
not like him. You know,
he's just a great guy. He is

1090
01:25:40.760 --> 01:25:46.880
a funny guys and PBRs. So
we we're on. So we're on that

1091
01:25:47.119 --> 01:25:49.439
night we were right, Wait,
I gotta tell Brian. I'm sorry,

1092
01:25:49.479 --> 01:25:55.520
I gotta tell you something. So
this is how much like this lady comes

1093
01:25:55.600 --> 01:25:59.600
up to me at monster Fest and
she's like, Oh, I have to

1094
01:25:59.680 --> 01:26:03.000
tell you, like your show is. I love it, keep doing it,

1095
01:26:03.199 --> 01:26:05.279
this is amazing. I'm like,
oh, this is a great thank

1096
01:26:05.319 --> 01:26:09.439
you so much. I'm getting his
feedback. And then at the very end,

1097
01:26:09.520 --> 01:26:14.079
this lady says, but what's the
deal with Tate and all the PBRs.

1098
01:26:14.960 --> 01:26:18.920
Like that's the funniest thing because like
she's super like, like she gets

1099
01:26:19.079 --> 01:26:25.000
like the in joke. It somehow
went through the waves and she latched onto

1100
01:26:25.039 --> 01:26:28.319
it. And I'm like, he
just really likes PBRs a lot. That's

1101
01:26:28.319 --> 01:26:30.720
all I could say. But if
we're going to throw that in, let's

1102
01:26:30.720 --> 01:26:35.439
say we're all in a class.
Takes the class clown in a good way.

1103
01:26:35.479 --> 01:26:39.079
Totally is a great way, in
a great way. Yeah, nothing

1104
01:26:39.119 --> 01:26:43.359
but love to take he knows he's
just a great live. But that's where

1105
01:26:43.399 --> 01:26:46.199
we've we've gone out a few times, and just two weeks ago he's like,

1106
01:26:46.279 --> 01:26:50.479
hey, let me go back to
our first overnight out there. We're

1107
01:26:50.560 --> 01:26:56.079
walking the power lines. Okay,
we're walking the power lines and just rained

1108
01:26:56.159 --> 01:27:00.359
a couple of days prior. So
we're looking for tracks and we're going through

1109
01:27:00.399 --> 01:27:03.880
the least path of resistance. Let's
walk those poderlists because those power lines go

1110
01:27:05.119 --> 01:27:11.239
through the state of New Hampshire.
It is a highway for wildlife. So

1111
01:27:11.399 --> 01:27:13.880
we're seeing all these different kind of
tracks, you know, we're picking up

1112
01:27:13.920 --> 01:27:17.000
moose tracks here, you know,
anything, deer tracks, everything, everything.

1113
01:27:18.760 --> 01:27:27.880
So we come across this track way
three nice tracks, big pretty big

1114
01:27:27.960 --> 01:27:31.079
size. Man. Alex did a
three D scan of it. Really yeah,

1115
01:27:32.000 --> 01:27:36.239
really intriguing stuff we found that night. We can't say as sure,

1116
01:27:38.439 --> 01:27:42.359
but the three D scan he did
on the phone that app you have with

1117
01:27:42.439 --> 01:27:46.640
your phone at home to see the
impression down and it's just it's shaped like

1118
01:27:46.720 --> 01:27:49.680
a it's a it's a someone had
a big foot, you know what I

1119
01:27:49.800 --> 01:27:54.680
mean. Three, So we caught
three of them. So like, oh

1120
01:27:54.880 --> 01:27:57.880
man, I'm like, we got
to go back out here again and walked

1121
01:27:57.960 --> 01:28:00.239
in stay out of the power lines
overnight with with the therms you know,

1122
01:28:00.479 --> 01:28:05.279
so that's cool. Yeah, totally. Yeah. So we had just planned

1123
01:28:05.359 --> 01:28:09.800
it was two Thursdays ago, two
weeks ago. We're like, yeah,

1124
01:28:09.800 --> 01:28:12.119
hey, man, let's go out
there and get them powder lines before I

1125
01:28:12.239 --> 01:28:15.520
leave for Alaska. I'm like,
let's do it again, right, So

1126
01:28:15.720 --> 01:28:19.000
we go out. Of course I
got Chewy because Chewy is our he is

1127
01:28:19.039 --> 01:28:27.760
our sixth cents out there, like, Chewy loves Alex and we always take

1128
01:28:27.880 --> 01:28:31.960
him on our investigations. M dog
is a great tool to have because just

1129
01:28:32.039 --> 01:28:36.880
because of how they how well their
senses are. So five minutes into our

1130
01:28:36.920 --> 01:28:41.039
investigation, we're trying to get We're
walking through the thick stuff to the power

1131
01:28:41.079 --> 01:28:46.319
lines and we see a couple porcupines
scurry up the tree like we're filming the

1132
01:28:46.359 --> 01:28:49.319
porcupines. Of course, Chewy was
the one that chased him up the tree.

1133
01:28:49.399 --> 01:28:54.399
I have him off leash. He
chased him up the tree. Dude.

1134
01:28:54.439 --> 01:28:57.680
I'm like, let's film this and
then I'll latch up Chewy. Because

1135
01:28:57.720 --> 01:29:00.920
there's a lot of porcupines out it's
this for some reason, this year,

1136
01:29:00.039 --> 01:29:04.520
there are a ton of porcupines up
in the northeast. Yeah, a lot

1137
01:29:04.600 --> 01:29:09.279
of them this year. A lot
of road kill just because there's so many.

1138
01:29:10.640 --> 01:29:12.640
So I called Chewy. I'm like, hey, Chewy. All of

1139
01:29:12.640 --> 01:29:15.640
a sudden, I hear I hear
him yelp, and I'm like, oh

1140
01:29:15.880 --> 01:29:23.239
no, man, I'm like Chewy, here comes Chewy quills and his nose

1141
01:29:23.560 --> 01:29:27.520
quills and his snow quills and his
mouth. I'm like scary. Oh,

1142
01:29:27.800 --> 01:29:32.159
I'm like, Chewy just got quilled. So we drove a hundred miles to

1143
01:29:32.279 --> 01:29:36.720
go for five minutes in it's in
the power lines and Chewy gets quilled and

1144
01:29:36.760 --> 01:29:41.279
take him to the r but he's
you know, it was a long night.

1145
01:29:41.439 --> 01:29:44.880
But he's fine now. But we
didn't get to walk those power lines

1146
01:29:45.000 --> 01:29:46.359
yet. So he's like, he's
like, as soon as I get back

1147
01:29:46.479 --> 01:29:50.720
man from from Alaska. So it
still has to happen, okay, wow.

1148
01:29:51.119 --> 01:29:56.560
Yeah, And that night was the
first night I was going to stay

1149
01:29:56.560 --> 01:30:00.680
out in attend by myself. Wow. So that that was the night I

1150
01:30:00.760 --> 01:30:04.000
was going to come over my fear
of going out because he was going to

1151
01:30:04.039 --> 01:30:08.159
stay out and do a night investigation. Him and his brother Luca. We're

1152
01:30:08.159 --> 01:30:12.560
gonna stay out, go home because
Ale it's only lives a half hour away

1153
01:30:12.600 --> 01:30:15.199
from his hot spot. And I'm
like, hey man, I'm like,

1154
01:30:15.279 --> 01:30:17.840
I'm gonna stay out here. So
I'm like I'm ready, I'm gonna try

1155
01:30:17.920 --> 01:30:20.079
it. I gotta see if I
can do it. He's like, oh,

1156
01:30:20.119 --> 01:30:21.680
what a great idea. He's like
yeah, man, he's like,

1157
01:30:21.720 --> 01:30:25.119
you can see anytime you want to
go to my spot and stay, go

1158
01:30:25.159 --> 01:30:29.680
ahead. But yeah, I got
ruined that night by the porcupine. So

1159
01:30:29.880 --> 01:30:32.880
after twenty years, I was ready
to face my fear. Wow. Yeah,

1160
01:30:33.359 --> 01:30:38.600
and it just mother. You know, the porcupine didn't want me staying

1161
01:30:38.640 --> 01:30:45.079
out that night, so he gave
Kwie some some quills. It's so scary

1162
01:30:45.119 --> 01:30:48.039
when it happens to your dog because
people need to. I don't know if

1163
01:30:48.359 --> 01:30:51.720
everyone realizes how scary that is for
a dog, because it's like the quills

1164
01:30:51.840 --> 01:30:56.920
keep going in and they have to
the vets have to pull him out,

1165
01:30:57.159 --> 01:31:02.079
and it's really traumatic. It's got
a dramatic and it's expensive. It's very

1166
01:31:02.159 --> 01:31:06.319
expensive, totally. Yeah, that's
an expensive night. So yeah, but

1167
01:31:08.479 --> 01:31:13.640
you know, going back to Evans
encounter and what happened and after him seeing

1168
01:31:13.760 --> 01:31:16.119
it, and that's a class that's
like doesn't get any better than that,

1169
01:31:16.399 --> 01:31:21.239
you know, with the detail he
had and and being able to go back

1170
01:31:21.359 --> 01:31:24.920
there, and I said, well, hey, Eaven, I'm like,

1171
01:31:25.000 --> 01:31:28.119
you know what, man, I'm
like, let's go to your encounter spot,

1172
01:31:28.680 --> 01:31:32.680
okay, and then let's go find
mine. Because it's been this happened

1173
01:31:32.720 --> 01:31:38.760
while nineteen years. I haven't been
back to that spot man in northern New

1174
01:31:38.840 --> 01:31:41.840
Hampshire. Like I've hyped around that
area of course, but I have never

1175
01:31:41.920 --> 01:31:45.039
been back to that camp site.
For one, I forgot the name.

1176
01:31:45.439 --> 01:31:49.800
It took me so long to find
that camp site and I used I used

1177
01:31:49.800 --> 01:31:54.840
the Google Earth to verify and pictures
online off the campsites. I was like,

1178
01:31:54.920 --> 01:31:57.520
oh my god. Just this past
year, I'm like, oh my

1179
01:31:57.600 --> 01:32:00.279
god, guys, I found it, like I found it, like,

1180
01:32:00.399 --> 01:32:03.520
we have to go back. So
the plan for me and Evan was,

1181
01:32:03.600 --> 01:32:06.600
oh, we'll go to your spot. I'm gonna film you telling your story,

1182
01:32:08.680 --> 01:32:11.520
and then we can go up to
my spot and you can film me

1183
01:32:12.199 --> 01:32:16.279
telling my encounter. And so we're
like, hey, man, we'll go

1184
01:32:16.359 --> 01:32:19.399
to your spot first, Evan,
since it's only an hour away from where

1185
01:32:19.439 --> 01:32:23.399
we are. Because mine was way
up in northern New Hampshire and his was

1186
01:32:23.479 --> 01:32:25.800
in central New Hampshire, it's a
long ride. It was like a two

1187
01:32:25.800 --> 01:32:28.800
to three hour ride for us to
go to my spot across the state and

1188
01:32:28.960 --> 01:32:33.000
up. So we go to his
spot. Okay, I get out of

1189
01:32:33.039 --> 01:32:36.439
his van. I got the go
pro going and I'm like, oh,

1190
01:32:36.520 --> 01:32:39.520
I'm like, so this is this
is where it happened, because you can

1191
01:32:39.560 --> 01:32:41.199
see the divot in the tree.
He's like, yeah, man, it

1192
01:32:41.279 --> 01:32:45.399
happened right over there. As we're
walking up to this, we see this

1193
01:32:45.520 --> 01:32:49.439
weird impression, you know. Two
we came within i say, two inches

1194
01:32:49.479 --> 01:32:51.800
of stepping right in the middle of
it. And I was like, oh

1195
01:32:51.920 --> 01:32:56.000
yeah, man. He's like I
see that too. He's not looking down.

1196
01:32:56.119 --> 01:32:58.960
He's like dude, He's like,
that's a track. And I'm like,

1197
01:32:59.000 --> 01:33:02.960
oh man, I'm like, no
way. This is five feet from

1198
01:33:03.479 --> 01:33:09.479
the tree where he saw the thing
four years ago. I was like,

1199
01:33:10.079 --> 01:33:13.880
I'm not saying it's the track from
four years ago, but just saying it's

1200
01:33:13.920 --> 01:33:17.399
insane. And I'm like, oh
wow, I'm like that's interesting. Now.

1201
01:33:18.560 --> 01:33:21.079
I'm always skeptical. At first,
I'm like it was just a nice

1202
01:33:21.239 --> 01:33:26.439
foot impression, but you could see
the impression. I was like, oh,

1203
01:33:26.520 --> 01:33:31.359
that's interesting. We stopped looking behind
it. We see three more impressions

1204
01:33:31.720 --> 01:33:38.000
in the leaves but pressed way down. Oh man, we're talking sixteen seventeen

1205
01:33:38.039 --> 01:33:43.520
inches three of them and we're trying
to step down, but we cannot get

1206
01:33:43.600 --> 01:33:45.600
that depth. Now, Evan's a
big guy. Evans sixty four almost three

1207
01:33:45.720 --> 01:33:53.079
hundred. Yeah, that's a big
guy. His foot dwarfed that foot impression.

1208
01:33:53.800 --> 01:33:56.199
So like, oh, that's interesting. So Evan's like, hey,

1209
01:33:56.640 --> 01:33:59.600
He's like, let's go across the
road and see if we find any more.

1210
01:34:00.079 --> 01:34:01.000
You know, we wanted to go
in the direction where the foot,

1211
01:34:01.039 --> 01:34:04.479
where where it was coming from.
So we had that, you know,

1212
01:34:04.640 --> 01:34:09.479
like two crappy ones that we couldn't
do anything with because of the leaves,

1213
01:34:09.880 --> 01:34:13.520
Like it scrunched the leaves down,
and there was just that that foot impression.

1214
01:34:13.560 --> 01:34:15.600
But the one on the road hard
We're talking a hard dirt road.

1215
01:34:16.159 --> 01:34:23.159
It's not like no human can make
that impression. You gotta be a heavy,

1216
01:34:23.479 --> 01:34:28.439
heavy guy. So like, all
right, let's walk across. I

1217
01:34:28.520 --> 01:34:30.560
started to walk across. Now,
Grant, I still have my goal pro

1218
01:34:30.760 --> 01:34:33.680
going when we find this. Now
they're f bomb school. I sent that

1219
01:34:33.760 --> 01:34:35.840
one to you. I sent that
to you as well, the link to

1220
01:34:35.880 --> 01:34:42.359
you. It's great, what's great? About this. You're getting our reaction

1221
01:34:43.159 --> 01:34:47.600
while it's happening, like it's incredible. It was the odd like I'm just

1222
01:34:47.680 --> 01:34:50.239
so used to when I get out
and I start hiking, I'm gonna I

1223
01:34:50.359 --> 01:34:57.439
just start filming. I see right
across the road, I see this impression

1224
01:34:57.640 --> 01:35:01.560
going up the embankment of this dirt
bankman that goes into the woods. I

1225
01:35:01.840 --> 01:35:04.479
be lined right to it, and
I'm like, dude. He's like,

1226
01:35:04.640 --> 01:35:08.920
dude. I'm like, dude,
we had that, dude. Yeah,

1227
01:35:12.039 --> 01:35:14.479
it's not just pulling. There's a
couple of leaves on it. Okay,

1228
01:35:14.600 --> 01:35:17.520
he pulls leaves off the top of
it. He's like, I see toes.

1229
01:35:17.800 --> 01:35:21.479
O'm like, god, I lost
it. I'm like, we felt

1230
01:35:21.520 --> 01:35:27.560
like we could see the toes.
That's wild. It was wild, dude.

1231
01:35:27.680 --> 01:35:30.840
It was so wild. I'm like, now I'm not because I am

1232
01:35:30.960 --> 01:35:35.039
in this state of jubilation, I'm
not paying attention to Chewy. He is

1233
01:35:35.520 --> 01:35:39.399
whining. You'll see it. You
can see it in the video. He

1234
01:35:39.600 --> 01:35:44.720
is yelping and whining like he doesn't
do that. It's not a normal thing.

1235
01:35:45.520 --> 01:35:48.319
He sensed something, whether he could
smell whatever, I don't, but

1236
01:35:48.640 --> 01:35:54.520
his reaction was just crying. And
whining for so long, and I didn't

1237
01:35:54.560 --> 01:35:58.319
pick him on and pick up until
after when I watched the footage, I

1238
01:35:58.439 --> 01:36:01.039
was like, oh wow, chew, he's acting. We but we're like,

1239
01:36:01.279 --> 01:36:05.680
we gotta call Alex. We hadn't
had like this three pound bag of

1240
01:36:05.920 --> 01:36:12.079
of like quick mix class and I'm
like, dude, I'm like that's not

1241
01:36:12.359 --> 01:36:16.239
enough, man, if we want
to get all these So our first thing

1242
01:36:16.359 --> 01:36:19.159
is we gotta call Alex. We
gotta call Alex. He'll know what to

1243
01:36:19.239 --> 01:36:23.840
do. He'll know what to do. So we call and call and called

1244
01:36:23.920 --> 01:36:26.720
no answer. We're like, he
could be anywhere. It could be anywhere

1245
01:36:26.840 --> 01:36:31.600
filming. Yeah, called back like
twenty minutes later, and we tell him

1246
01:36:31.640 --> 01:36:35.720
what's going on, and what's great
is we have it all on film and

1247
01:36:35.760 --> 01:36:39.039
we're like, dude, we found
a track, like we found a passable

1248
01:36:39.079 --> 01:36:41.720
track. Way. He's like,
no way. He's like, hey,

1249
01:36:41.880 --> 01:36:45.560
listen, it's gonna take me two
hours to get there where you go from

1250
01:36:45.560 --> 01:36:48.560
where I where he is to to
the to the location. He's like,

1251
01:36:48.600 --> 01:36:51.399
I'm gonna stop by home depot.
I'm gonna get a big fifty pound bag

1252
01:36:51.479 --> 01:36:55.439
of plaster. He's like, how
wow. Two and a half hours,

1253
01:36:56.279 --> 01:37:00.720
dude, in that two and a
half hours, Okay, it was like

1254
01:37:00.920 --> 01:37:04.239
a movie. Okay. Now,
when we found these tracks, no one,

1255
01:37:04.600 --> 01:37:09.079
no one drove by, not a
person walked by. Nothing. We

1256
01:37:09.159 --> 01:37:13.319
are right, We are probably probably
about two miles three miles from the state

1257
01:37:13.399 --> 01:37:17.119
park, paw tuck Away State Park. Yeah, paw Tuckaway State Park is

1258
01:37:17.680 --> 01:37:25.439
now we know it is a hot
zone for activity. So I'm like,

1259
01:37:25.520 --> 01:37:29.039
you know what, Evan, I'm
gonna go down because where we found the

1260
01:37:29.079 --> 01:37:31.119
first set of tracks, at the
bottom of the hill, there was a

1261
01:37:31.279 --> 01:37:36.840
huge pond, like a huge,
huge pond. I'm like, I'm gonna

1262
01:37:36.840 --> 01:37:42.319
see if I find any more tracks. I go down there, I find

1263
01:37:42.640 --> 01:37:49.159
piles of turkey feathers, really turkey
feathers ripped, I mean ripped in half,

1264
01:37:50.279 --> 01:37:54.399
piles here and there, turkey fas. I'm like, Evan, I'm

1265
01:37:54.439 --> 01:37:58.520
like this turkey feallas everywhere. Man. He's like no, I'm like,

1266
01:37:58.640 --> 01:38:01.680
dude, I'm like they everywhere.
I'm like, I'm still rolling, I'm

1267
01:38:01.720 --> 01:38:04.479
still rolling with the go pro getting
it all. And I'm like, oh

1268
01:38:04.600 --> 01:38:11.680
yeah, man, I'm like,
something killed something down here. So I'm

1269
01:38:11.760 --> 01:38:15.840
looking around down there for tracks I
didn't I couldn't find any more tracks because

1270
01:38:15.880 --> 01:38:18.319
there was so much leaf down there. It was very hard to find tracks.

1271
01:38:18.439 --> 01:38:30.279
But while I'm down there, Evan
yells truck no here. It comes

1272
01:38:30.319 --> 01:38:34.680
to this truck man backing up with
a with a boat at going right towards

1273
01:38:34.760 --> 01:38:40.600
the track, and like what do
you do? You're like, yeah,

1274
01:38:41.239 --> 01:38:45.199
dude, I run up. Evan
is standing there like a dick. He

1275
01:38:45.359 --> 01:38:50.119
isn't moving. It's like these guys
are pulling up on their boat. They

1276
01:38:50.159 --> 01:38:54.600
had to stop. They had to
stop because they weren't going any further.

1277
01:38:54.760 --> 01:38:58.279
Evan just standing man. Man,
I run up, Man, I stand

1278
01:38:58.359 --> 01:39:00.880
right on the side of Evan.
I got chewy, like I got him

1279
01:39:00.920 --> 01:39:02.800
so tight to me so we won't
step on the track. Like yeah,

1280
01:39:03.439 --> 01:39:09.760
And these guys are like they're probably
looking at us, like what of these

1281
01:39:09.840 --> 01:39:14.000
guys do? Yeah, they're not
moving. Like these guys are digging the

1282
01:39:14.039 --> 01:39:16.279
boat off the trailer. It's like
a little like just a little boat.

1283
01:39:16.279 --> 01:39:20.119
They could take it to the pond
and do their fishing. We didn't move.

1284
01:39:20.279 --> 01:39:23.840
It was to the point where the
boat almost hit me when they take

1285
01:39:23.960 --> 01:39:28.880
it off the dude, I'm not
moving for you, buddy, Like like

1286
01:39:29.560 --> 01:39:32.399
there almost comes a time like,
are we gonna have to tell these guys

1287
01:39:32.600 --> 01:39:35.239
like did you say did you say, hey, I got a big like

1288
01:39:35.439 --> 01:39:41.319
you just didn't even broach it being
so close to a buddy. We got

1289
01:39:41.319 --> 01:39:48.079
a potential sess sessquatch here going around, you know. But we didn't move.

1290
01:39:48.560 --> 01:39:53.760
We did not move until the guy
we we tent, the guy who's

1291
01:39:53.800 --> 01:39:56.159
like, hey, when you get
into the water, we have our buddy

1292
01:39:56.399 --> 01:39:59.119
on a kayak, could you let
him know that we're here waiting for him?

1293
01:39:59.439 --> 01:40:02.159
We want it was like the only
thing we could think of, Like

1294
01:40:02.319 --> 01:40:05.680
Evan thought of that, Like just
when you see how buddy in the pond,

1295
01:40:05.720 --> 01:40:08.880
did you tell him that we're up
here waiting for him. We've been

1296
01:40:08.920 --> 01:40:11.560
here a while, like we were
just playing dumb. You know, I

1297
01:40:11.680 --> 01:40:15.439
want to tell them. I didn't
want to get that look or like,

1298
01:40:15.000 --> 01:40:18.000
you know, didn't want anyone else
to know what the hell we're doing.

1299
01:40:19.680 --> 01:40:23.880
So they got out. Lady Daddy
DoD it's been about an hour and a

1300
01:40:23.920 --> 01:40:28.199
half. We're still waiting for alex
Man, and we're like the nerves of

1301
01:40:28.359 --> 01:40:32.920
God, like I the adrenaline and
the nerves all of a sudden, Okay,

1302
01:40:33.199 --> 01:40:39.920
here comes this guy walking his dog
on the other side with a toe

1303
01:40:40.039 --> 01:40:43.359
where we got the good one on
the embankment, that good track way,

1304
01:40:43.520 --> 01:40:47.720
just that beautiful one with the toe
impressions like he's going right towards it.

1305
01:40:50.319 --> 01:40:56.840
His dog starts barking and lunging at
my dog. We are across the road.

1306
01:40:59.159 --> 01:41:02.479
He comes this dude, his dog
came within probably two three inches a

1307
01:41:02.560 --> 01:41:06.880
stepping right into the track. It
was like a movie, and I couldn't

1308
01:41:06.920 --> 01:41:12.600
believe what was going on all it
was like you couldn't write a better script,

1309
01:41:12.760 --> 01:41:15.479
you know what I mean. And
that guy has no idea what's going

1310
01:41:15.520 --> 01:41:19.560
on, no idea. And after
that we put a backpack near it,

1311
01:41:20.239 --> 01:41:25.760
you know what a good idea.
People wait from it. But finally Alex

1312
01:41:25.920 --> 01:41:30.000
rolls up. And of course Alex, of course, he was of course

1313
01:41:30.039 --> 01:41:32.319
skeptical before he even saw anything.
You know what I mean, these guys,

1314
01:41:32.399 --> 01:41:34.840
you know, what are the odds
of these guys find in this way

1315
01:41:34.920 --> 01:41:41.800
Evan Handris encounter and then he looks
at him and he's like this is pretty

1316
01:41:41.840 --> 01:41:44.520
crazy, man. He's like,
this is pretty And it takes a lot

1317
01:41:44.640 --> 01:41:46.279
to get something like that out of
Alex. No, no, it does.

1318
01:41:46.439 --> 01:41:50.319
It really does Yeah, good thing
about Alex. He doesn't have Bigfoot

1319
01:41:50.359 --> 01:41:54.640
on the brain when he goes out
there. You know, he's always skeptical

1320
01:41:54.880 --> 01:41:59.159
of everything. First, but when
he started saying, hey man, when

1321
01:41:59.199 --> 01:42:00.800
he stopped swearing, and he's like, this is pretty interesting. Man,

1322
01:42:00.920 --> 01:42:05.720
it's like this is pretty interesting.
And but the one on the embankment,

1323
01:42:05.800 --> 01:42:09.359
he's like, guys, he's like, I don't think I could do this,

1324
01:42:09.800 --> 01:42:13.399
Like I've never I've never cast it
up on an on an angle like

1325
01:42:13.520 --> 01:42:15.640
that. Wow. Yeah. He's
like, you mind if I call Cliff

1326
01:42:15.680 --> 01:42:20.520
backman, that's awesome. Yeah,
give me some pointers. Yeah, that's

1327
01:42:20.520 --> 01:42:24.520
so cool, Like, yeah,
go ahead, you can call Cliff.

1328
01:42:24.680 --> 01:42:28.000
Yeah, so here I yeah,
with the go bro right next to his

1329
01:42:28.119 --> 01:42:31.960
phone, he calls us Cliff.
Cliff answers, He answers. After a

1330
01:42:32.039 --> 01:42:34.800
few roads, he's like, oh, hey Cliff, sorry to bother you,

1331
01:42:34.920 --> 01:42:38.439
man, but I kind of got
I got a potential track way here

1332
01:42:38.479 --> 01:42:42.680
in New Hampshire. We're trying to
you know, cast on an embank man

1333
01:42:42.880 --> 01:42:45.359
and just hearing Cliff's voice, you
know, because I was that guy from

1334
01:42:45.399 --> 01:42:48.560
Finding big Foot and I always loved
Cliff and Bobo, you know what I

1335
01:42:48.680 --> 01:42:53.560
mean. So to to get the
pointers from him and what to do.

1336
01:42:54.119 --> 01:42:58.159
It was just oh, what a
great experience. Man. It was just

1337
01:42:58.359 --> 01:43:04.079
so cool to to be able to
cast the tracks. And that track Way

1338
01:43:04.640 --> 01:43:08.680
was the last one we cast it
out of all of them. Wow.

1339
01:43:09.279 --> 01:43:15.359
And while Alex is casting it,
he's running out of mix. He's running

1340
01:43:15.399 --> 01:43:18.800
out of mix. He's got about
he still has to get the toes.

1341
01:43:19.720 --> 01:43:26.079
I'm there, man, I am
so mad. I am glad he showed

1342
01:43:26.159 --> 01:43:30.159
up. But I am so mad
that he didn't mix enough. He started

1343
01:43:30.239 --> 01:43:32.119
scraping it out with his hands to
get it every little bit he could,

1344
01:43:32.239 --> 01:43:36.239
man, but he ended up getting
We ended up getting the track. We

1345
01:43:36.359 --> 01:43:41.880
got, We got the toes.
Alex. Alex has the cast, he's

1346
01:43:41.920 --> 01:43:45.119
got it nice set up in his
house and a nice glass case. It's

1347
01:43:45.159 --> 01:43:49.279
just a nice MOMENTEU to everything that
happens. And he's like, hey,

1348
01:43:49.399 --> 01:43:53.800
guys, He's like, would you
guys want to come back up here,

1349
01:43:53.920 --> 01:43:59.399
like in a week or two and
do an investigation. I'm like, hell

1350
01:43:59.560 --> 01:44:03.680
yeah, man, like definitely.
And that led into doing to be on

1351
01:44:03.760 --> 01:44:08.960
the trail episode on the track Way, and it was exactly so fun have

1352
01:44:09.079 --> 01:44:14.359
an Eli come down and uh,
Carrick. Saint Laurent came down. Oh

1353
01:44:14.840 --> 01:44:17.319
so nice. He's he's a really
cool guy. Yeah, man, we

1354
01:44:17.479 --> 01:44:21.840
had we you know, it rains, you know, during it rained both

1355
01:44:21.960 --> 01:44:26.319
days we did our investigation, but
we had the night time to where it

1356
01:44:26.359 --> 01:44:30.640
didn't rain. It got to go
out and we had some stuff go on.

1357
01:44:31.640 --> 01:44:35.199
Um, but we're thinking it,
like we heard a blue boop splash,

1358
01:44:35.880 --> 01:44:40.119
like very loud blue boop splash,
and it was just, you know,

1359
01:44:41.000 --> 01:44:43.239
we come to the fact that it
was probably beaver tail. It was

1360
01:44:43.279 --> 01:44:46.439
probably beavers doing that right. Well, what happened on that second night,

1361
01:44:46.600 --> 01:44:51.239
and it was probably two two thirty
in the morning, Evan and Eli were

1362
01:44:51.279 --> 01:44:58.199
by themselves on the power lines and
we were over by the there's a side

1363
01:44:58.239 --> 01:45:00.760
trail you can go down. You
can parallel each other one on the you

1364
01:45:00.840 --> 01:45:03.960
know, we got one group there, another group here and see if we

1365
01:45:04.000 --> 01:45:11.640
could either flush anything out or whatever. And on Milwaukee talkie they're like,

1366
01:45:11.960 --> 01:45:15.439
you guys. Evan and Eli are
like, are you guys over near the

1367
01:45:15.800 --> 01:45:23.079
entrance because we're seeing a light and
we're like, no, man, we're

1368
01:45:23.159 --> 01:45:26.199
way down. We're way down,
man, none of us have lights on.

1369
01:45:26.359 --> 01:45:30.760
He's like they saw like a possible
orb, like they had something fun

1370
01:45:30.840 --> 01:45:35.680
to while to where Eli they we're
trying to recreate it with the flashlights.

1371
01:45:36.039 --> 01:45:40.720
We all met up after that,
we're trying to recreate with and like no,

1372
01:45:41.119 --> 01:45:45.479
like that's not it, man.
So something weird happened that those guys

1373
01:45:45.560 --> 01:45:49.479
Evan and Eli saw that. They
they can't explain it, but they're like,

1374
01:45:49.640 --> 01:45:55.800
yeah, it was like this white
light floating across and went behind the

1375
01:45:56.520 --> 01:45:59.840
there was this sign. It was
the sign to the entry of the trail,

1376
01:46:00.640 --> 01:46:02.319
and they're like and then it was
gone. I was like, oh,

1377
01:46:02.479 --> 01:46:05.119
wow, that's that's interesting because I
wasn't a big orb guy, you

1378
01:46:05.159 --> 01:46:09.720
know what I mean, But you
hear a lot of stories with people seeing

1379
01:46:09.920 --> 01:46:14.079
orbs in the woods sometimes, so
they saw something odd. They talked about

1380
01:46:14.079 --> 01:46:16.119
it a little on the documentary,
but there was nothing we could recreate.

1381
01:46:16.319 --> 01:46:19.880
But it was just it's just a
very interesting area. And you know,

1382
01:46:20.159 --> 01:46:25.479
like I said that where we found
that trackway a half mile down the road

1383
01:46:25.680 --> 01:46:30.039
was the power lines, those lines
that run from miles and that thing that

1384
01:46:30.159 --> 01:46:34.359
that direction the prince, that that
where it was going. You go through

1385
01:46:34.399 --> 01:46:40.000
the woods, and then a little
bit after those woods you come up onto

1386
01:46:40.079 --> 01:46:44.119
the power lines, so like oh
wow, like what a great area.

1387
01:46:44.439 --> 01:46:46.840
But man, it was such a
great experience, you know what I mean,

1388
01:46:46.920 --> 01:46:50.199
to be able to go out with
those guys and see how they do

1389
01:46:50.840 --> 01:46:58.039
their thing, that kind of thing. I learned so much from Alex every

1390
01:46:58.119 --> 01:47:00.479
time we go out, like he's
like, oh, well these are way

1391
01:47:00.560 --> 01:47:03.680
porcupines burrow And sure enough we go
up to this spot and there's a bunch

1392
01:47:03.720 --> 01:47:06.399
of porcupines. S guy and I'm
like, oh my god. Like every

1393
01:47:06.439 --> 01:47:11.199
time I'm with that guy, like, I always learned something. So it's

1394
01:47:11.319 --> 01:47:15.319
it's it's he is such a very
down to earth, just a nice I

1395
01:47:15.439 --> 01:47:19.600
have never met a nicer person than
ale It's petakoff. I can't like what

1396
01:47:19.840 --> 01:47:27.319
you see on film is how he
is all the time. It's it's the

1397
01:47:27.439 --> 01:47:31.239
same thing. Like people need to
realize that. It's it's a it's not

1398
01:47:31.359 --> 01:47:38.319
a fake thing like that him.
Yeah he what you get what you get

1399
01:47:38.399 --> 01:47:41.840
with him, He's the same all
the time. Such a nice, nice

1400
01:47:41.880 --> 01:47:44.279
guy. Yeah, what a nice
what a nice guy. But yeah,

1401
01:47:44.560 --> 01:47:46.920
man, that was that was you
know, That's that's what's happened to me

1402
01:47:47.039 --> 01:47:51.199
out there though, with the knocks
and and those those footsteps. That's that's

1403
01:47:51.319 --> 01:48:00.479
wild I have. There's one question
I have about the initial tenant situation.

1404
01:48:01.479 --> 01:48:05.560
And I know this is this is
like twenty years ago or more right,

1405
01:48:05.840 --> 01:48:12.079
it's a long time ago. But
the one thing that I kept coming to

1406
01:48:12.199 --> 01:48:16.319
mind when you were telling me that
is, um, so you're inside the

1407
01:48:16.399 --> 01:48:23.039
tent and you can see something running, you know, across the nylon.

1408
01:48:23.279 --> 01:48:26.079
Right. Yes, at first I
heard, I'm like, what is that?

1409
01:48:26.479 --> 01:48:28.239
Now? You want to say?
This is seconds? Now? Like

1410
01:48:28.359 --> 01:48:30.279
I said, we were in a
big tent, so it had to go

1411
01:48:30.439 --> 01:48:34.880
across far because, like I'm saying, three of us fit on one half

1412
01:48:34.920 --> 01:48:38.800
of the tent and the other half
was like all our clothes, all our

1413
01:48:38.880 --> 01:48:42.159
stuff, you know what I mean. So I had enough time to hear

1414
01:48:42.239 --> 01:48:46.119
it, and then I picked up
the impression. Now you see me going

1415
01:48:46.239 --> 01:48:50.960
like like this all the time.
I'm telling it, right, That's what

1416
01:48:51.119 --> 01:48:56.479
I saw. So that's that's the
question I had is did you see actual

1417
01:48:56.640 --> 01:49:03.159
fingers? Yes? I saw my
fingers how big? I mean, this

1418
01:49:03.399 --> 01:49:06.439
is what got me because what I
said, at first I thought it was

1419
01:49:06.520 --> 01:49:15.560
a person because I saw the finger
impressions. It's when everything changed at the

1420
01:49:15.840 --> 01:49:18.319
end of the tent. It didn't
growl, it didn't take the breath and

1421
01:49:18.439 --> 01:49:25.319
growl and grun till after the impression
went across. It was about eight feet

1422
01:49:25.319 --> 01:49:29.680
away when I felt that grunt,
okay, eight to ten feet away from

1423
01:49:30.359 --> 01:49:34.000
going from my right to left,
and then it was my girlfriend and my

1424
01:49:34.199 --> 01:49:39.880
son on the outside of the tent. The direction it was going, that's

1425
01:49:39.920 --> 01:49:43.039
what scared me. I didn't want
it coming back to my son's side of

1426
01:49:43.079 --> 01:49:49.119
the tent. Yeah, laid there
still. I don't know how long it

1427
01:49:49.479 --> 01:49:54.840
was till I actually freaking moved.
But my first movement was looking to my

1428
01:49:55.039 --> 01:49:58.920
left and seeing if it woke up
my girlfriend, and she sound asleep,

1429
01:49:59.000 --> 01:50:02.399
and I was like, oh shit, And I waited, dude. I

1430
01:50:02.920 --> 01:50:10.079
laid there and waited, hands like
this dude pillow over my head and I

1431
01:50:10.279 --> 01:50:14.680
just waited to hear if I would
hear anything else, because I didn't know,

1432
01:50:15.039 --> 01:50:18.560
like take sasquatch out of the realm, I didn't know what it was.

1433
01:50:20.119 --> 01:50:24.239
So I've come, like I was
saying before, I have finally,

1434
01:50:25.000 --> 01:50:29.600
after years of fighting myself saying Brian, like, dude, why couldn't you

1435
01:50:29.720 --> 01:50:33.960
open that tent? I was so
afraid I couldn't freaking move, man,

1436
01:50:34.600 --> 01:50:42.479
I physically couldn't move after that grunt
because it's something I have never heard.

1437
01:50:42.800 --> 01:50:45.640
Besides, if you go to the
circus and you're close to a lion and

1438
01:50:45.760 --> 01:50:49.479
you can hear, you can you
know they give off like that vibration exactly,

1439
01:50:49.840 --> 01:50:55.520
no lions in the north, there's
no lions up there ahead. It

1440
01:50:55.720 --> 01:50:59.119
was the digits. That's why when
I said bear at first, I'm like,

1441
01:50:59.239 --> 01:51:00.439
no, no, no, no, no. I'm like, we're

1442
01:51:00.520 --> 01:51:04.119
ripped through my tent. A bear's
not going to go up on a time

1443
01:51:04.239 --> 01:51:10.199
legs. Miss the you have a
cover on your tent and your strings come

1444
01:51:10.279 --> 01:51:14.680
out into the ground. Miss those
have the intelligence to miss those. Okay,

1445
01:51:15.840 --> 01:51:21.319
wow, that's that's wild. So
you could see the actual fingers,

1446
01:51:21.920 --> 01:51:28.560
you could probably could you tell like
how big the yeah hand ish was yes,

1447
01:51:28.880 --> 01:51:30.920
yes, because it was fat.
They were so fat, Like the

1448
01:51:31.000 --> 01:51:34.680
impression. It wasn't like it was
grazing gently, man, right, Okay,

1449
01:51:34.920 --> 01:51:42.399
it was like pressing in. Wow, pressed and across. I'm not

1450
01:51:42.439 --> 01:51:46.119
gonna say violently, but aggressively,
very aggressive to where it scared me.

1451
01:51:46.800 --> 01:51:51.319
I'm up on my elbows watching that
sucker go across about to get get up,

1452
01:51:51.399 --> 01:51:57.800
and it's thinking, I'm thinking of
the noises I was gonna have to

1453
01:51:57.920 --> 01:52:02.439
make to get out of my sleeping
with the zippers. Yeah, to them

1454
01:52:02.520 --> 01:52:06.359
to unzip that big dome freak and
pop my head out into the pitch.

1455
01:52:06.439 --> 01:52:10.760
Black man, No way, no
dude, Yeah, I would have.

1456
01:52:11.199 --> 01:52:13.439
It would have been saying, I
mean I would have made the same call

1457
01:52:13.560 --> 01:52:17.760
like there's there's no way, like
and there's no way I would have been

1458
01:52:17.800 --> 01:52:21.199
able to do that. And here's
another thing and I and I've talked about

1459
01:52:21.239 --> 01:52:25.359
this with you know, I've heard
a guy that it took him fifty five

1460
01:52:25.520 --> 01:52:30.199
years. This guy seventy two,
Okay, took him fifty five years.

1461
01:52:30.680 --> 01:52:35.880
And I what I share with him
is that it felt like it just happened

1462
01:52:36.279 --> 01:52:41.319
yesterday. When you said, oh, it's been twenty years. I don't

1463
01:52:41.319 --> 01:52:45.600
know if you I can remember it
like it just happens, wow, Like

1464
01:52:46.680 --> 01:52:54.159
it's it never leaves you. So
in a way, I feel like I'm

1465
01:52:54.239 --> 01:53:00.000
cursed, But I also feel lucky
because that doesn't happen to a lot of

1466
01:53:00.159 --> 01:53:05.720
people. But that those years of
not knowing, but to be able to

1467
01:53:05.800 --> 01:53:10.800
tell my story like it just happened
yesterday, right, it's so fresh in

1468
01:53:10.920 --> 01:53:15.039
my brain. It's never gonna leave
me, you never, like I will

1469
01:53:15.119 --> 01:53:19.279
never forget that night. I will
never forget it. It's something that you

1470
01:53:19.399 --> 01:53:25.920
know. I've shared it enough.
Um, but man, yeah, my

1471
01:53:26.119 --> 01:53:28.520
memory is as clear as day when
it comes to that night, man,

1472
01:53:29.199 --> 01:53:35.560
and it's it's it's it's definitely.
Uh, it's definitely an experience, Brian.

1473
01:53:35.640 --> 01:53:41.760
That's that's in that whole, that
whole I mean, it's it's a

1474
01:53:41.800 --> 01:53:47.800
whole adventure, your whole story and
think between years. Amazing man, thank

1475
01:53:47.840 --> 01:53:56.720
you for sharing all that. Uh. I would highly recommend people listeners to

1476
01:53:57.920 --> 01:54:02.760
subscribe to Brian's channel so that you
can fall along with everything he's posting.

1477
01:54:03.359 --> 01:54:06.159
There's some really cool stuff on there. There's gonna be plenty of links in

1478
01:54:06.279 --> 01:54:11.760
the show notes, But do you
mind spending in a few minutes, Brian

1479
01:54:11.920 --> 01:54:17.920
to share just any way that people
can keep up to date with what you're

1480
01:54:17.960 --> 01:54:25.239
doing. I post all my hikes, all my investigations. I've just posted

1481
01:54:25.279 --> 01:54:29.640
a I think the last two months
all I've been doing is going on investigations

1482
01:54:30.359 --> 01:54:33.239
with Alex and stuff, but I
posted them. We've gone to the Freetown

1483
01:54:33.319 --> 01:54:39.119
State Forest. That's a whole another
episode, man, I with fifteen minutes

1484
01:54:39.159 --> 01:54:44.760
from there. I'm fifteen minutes from
the Freetown State Forest. So I took

1485
01:54:45.199 --> 01:54:49.920
I've gone in there with Alex three
times. We've taken a guy that wanted

1486
01:54:49.960 --> 01:54:55.279
to you know, because there's a
lot of right, it's a melting pot

1487
01:54:55.399 --> 01:55:00.800
of everything in the Freetown State Forest, from murders, co ghosts, anything

1488
01:55:00.880 --> 01:55:05.159
you are into, sasquatch encounters.
Is that's part of the Bridgewater Triangle.

1489
01:55:05.279 --> 01:55:10.319
Absolutely, So that is a whole
another episode. Man, So rarely is

1490
01:55:10.439 --> 01:55:13.760
it? I mean, that is
That's some wild, wild stuff, dude.

1491
01:55:14.159 --> 01:55:16.479
Wow. But what's great about that
is we go to all these famous

1492
01:55:16.560 --> 01:55:19.520
locations and I have it all on
my channel. But my channel is Brian

1493
01:55:19.560 --> 01:55:24.079
and chewego hiking. That's all it
is. And I'm a small channel.

1494
01:55:24.159 --> 01:55:27.560
I'm not I don't promote my channel. You know. I started my channel

1495
01:55:27.720 --> 01:55:30.680
when my dad, we know,
for my dad, my dad lived in

1496
01:55:30.720 --> 01:55:33.760
Arizona. He was a hiker.
I lived over here. I'm a hiker.

1497
01:55:34.199 --> 01:55:38.760
I would share my videos so he
could see that. That's really cool.

1498
01:55:39.039 --> 01:55:43.359
Yeah, that was my whole you
know, that was my whole start

1499
01:55:43.439 --> 01:55:45.039
to this YouTube thing. So I
could share my stories with my dad.

1500
01:55:45.520 --> 01:55:48.439
Little did I know, you know, other people like watching, you know,

1501
01:55:48.680 --> 01:55:53.920
hikes and getting information on mountains and
hikes, and that's that's mostly what

1502
01:55:54.079 --> 01:55:58.600
I do. But I lately I
have been putting the investigations in there and

1503
01:55:58.680 --> 01:56:02.399
it's it's pretty cool. I enjoy
doing it, and I enjoy sharing where

1504
01:56:02.520 --> 01:56:09.000
these locations are, just so people
can see we're talking about, because that's

1505
01:56:09.000 --> 01:56:12.079
the most important thing to me.
I want these people to go on Google

1506
01:56:12.159 --> 01:56:16.279
Earth after this episode look up where
I've been talking about, and you're gonna

1507
01:56:16.279 --> 01:56:21.760
be like, oh wow, that's
forest and there's no cars going in there,

1508
01:56:21.920 --> 01:56:26.520
there's no roads. So that's where
these suck. To me, my

1509
01:56:26.720 --> 01:56:30.880
opinion, in these deep areas in
the whites, these are where these things

1510
01:56:30.920 --> 01:56:34.880
are hiding, is where people don't
go because, like we were saying,

1511
01:56:35.399 --> 01:56:40.960
you go off trail a little bit
and you lose your way nine times out

1512
01:56:41.000 --> 01:56:43.920
of ten, you're not gonna find
your way out. Oh no, you're

1513
01:56:44.000 --> 01:56:48.880
not. So yeah, that's in
my opinion, that's where these soccers ares

1514
01:56:48.920 --> 01:56:54.279
where people aren't going to go much, and that's where I want to try

1515
01:56:54.359 --> 01:57:00.520
and go, but I'm not going
alone. So hopefully, uh next beyond

1516
01:57:00.560 --> 01:57:01.800
the trail at the end of the
summer, you guys will see us going

1517
01:57:01.880 --> 01:57:06.520
up to the Northern New Hampshire.
And yeah, I can't wait for that

1518
01:57:06.640 --> 01:57:12.560
one because we used to go up
to Colebrook and Pittsburgh and all that good

1519
01:57:12.640 --> 01:57:15.600
stuff. Northern New ham Northern New
Ampshire is beautiful. But I can't wait

1520
01:57:15.680 --> 01:57:19.640
to see what you guys find out
the Dixville notch are. Oh my god,

1521
01:57:19.920 --> 01:57:24.359
you'll see a moose. We saw
seven moose on one of our me

1522
01:57:24.479 --> 01:57:30.079
and Evnant went on excursion to do
an investigation. I got a quick story

1523
01:57:30.119 --> 01:57:33.079
if we got time. We got
a little bit of time, so I

1524
01:57:33.239 --> 01:57:38.840
got how about this, Let's let's
finish. Let's finish the episode and then

1525
01:57:39.640 --> 01:57:44.119
I can tell you I've got moose
stories and you've got moose stories, and

1526
01:57:44.239 --> 01:57:48.720
we'll do like a Patreon moose moose. Let's do that. I haven't you

1527
01:57:48.800 --> 01:57:53.720
have time, so I have I
haven't time. Let's let's close it out

1528
01:57:53.760 --> 01:57:57.399
really, okay, So, Brian, thank you for for chilling out.

1529
01:57:59.800 --> 01:58:03.520
I'm sorry to interrupt you. I
just want to thank you, okay,

1530
01:58:04.680 --> 01:58:12.680
because people like me that have had
a hard time talking about it to just

1531
01:58:12.760 --> 01:58:19.119
the average joe. What you do
with this platform. I like, it's

1532
01:58:19.239 --> 01:58:25.439
so much appreciated. Thank you people
that have had encounters and are afraid to

1533
01:58:25.560 --> 01:58:30.600
talk about it or just are afraid
to step forward. This platform is a

1534
01:58:30.720 --> 01:58:36.119
great platform to let people like us
tell what's happened and not get that look,

1535
01:58:38.119 --> 01:58:41.960
not get that look like look at
like Latin nut, Like, oh

1536
01:58:42.079 --> 01:58:45.239
this this guy's a nut. You
know what I mean, Like you've heard

1537
01:58:45.399 --> 01:58:49.039
enough of it. The listeners have
heard enough that they know that. You

1538
01:58:49.159 --> 01:58:53.720
know, I'm not a bullshitter,
you know. I'm just telling me what's

1539
01:58:53.720 --> 01:58:57.640
happened to me on my hikes,
and and and and the areas I have

1540
01:58:57.760 --> 01:59:02.840
going to that are that are hot
zones. So and for me bringing awareness

1541
01:59:03.119 --> 01:59:08.640
to the Northeast because you don't hear
a lot about the Northeast much, Oh

1542
01:59:09.000 --> 01:59:12.600
you don't. People don't really chat
about it. So I super appreciate it

1543
01:59:12.640 --> 01:59:15.720
because that is the main focus of
my channel now is to give people a

1544
01:59:16.159 --> 01:59:20.920
platform to share their encounters where they
haven't been able to share because they've been

1545
01:59:21.119 --> 01:59:27.640
maybe afraid or not empowered. And
so then other people hear that and then

1546
01:59:27.840 --> 01:59:32.279
they are able to connect dots in
their heads or in their head or have

1547
01:59:32.600 --> 01:59:38.840
the courage then to come forward.
But can you speak to the listeners for

1548
01:59:39.079 --> 01:59:43.319
a moment, like imagine you're speaking
to a person that has had something happened

1549
01:59:43.319 --> 01:59:46.960
they haven't come forward yet, And
why is it a good idea to you

1550
01:59:47.039 --> 01:59:51.319
know, contact someone like me?
And just what does that due to you

1551
01:59:51.399 --> 01:59:56.000
as a person? You know?
Why do for me? And I'm sure

1552
01:59:56.079 --> 01:59:59.399
for some other people. Some people
hold on to this for a long time

1553
02:00:00.000 --> 02:00:03.399
and it and like I said,
it is a heavy weight to carry on

1554
02:00:03.560 --> 02:00:10.680
your shoulders if you don't know what's
going on and you're looking for answers and

1555
02:00:10.840 --> 02:00:15.319
you come to a platform like this
and you're hearing similar stuff. The best

1556
02:00:15.359 --> 02:00:21.239
thing for me was telling my story
what's happening, because that weight came off

1557
02:00:21.279 --> 02:00:28.880
of me and to get that positive
feedback. And I'm calling it like a

1558
02:00:29.039 --> 02:00:35.840
family. You get to like you
can trust people that you're telling your story

1559
02:00:35.920 --> 02:00:41.479
too. On this platform. It's
just I highly recommend anyone that has had

1560
02:00:41.479 --> 02:00:46.439
an encounter and it's having a hard
time telling anyone, this is one of

1561
02:00:46.479 --> 02:00:51.800
the safe places to tell it and
and you will feel much better at getting

1562
02:00:51.880 --> 02:00:57.119
that off your shoulders because for me, I had it for eighteen years,

1563
02:00:57.920 --> 02:01:02.479
carried that to myself, and I
am so glad I did, because I

1564
02:01:02.520 --> 02:01:05.319
don't know where I'd be if I
didn't, you know what I mean.

1565
02:01:06.840 --> 02:01:15.560
I feel so much better hearing similar
encounters and just you get that validation when

1566
02:01:15.600 --> 02:01:19.520
you hear something something similar and you're
like, yeah, I wasn't imagining that

1567
02:01:19.640 --> 02:01:25.960
shit like it happens to other people. So yeah, the best thing to

1568
02:01:26.039 --> 02:01:29.880
do was to share your story in
a safe platform. You know, yes,

1569
02:01:30.439 --> 02:01:34.520
exactly. Thank you, Brian.
If you want to contact me directly,

1570
02:01:34.600 --> 02:01:39.000
listeners, you can send me an
email. Bigfoot Society at gmail dot

1571
02:01:39.039 --> 02:01:42.399
com is the easiest way to do
that. But Brian, thank you so

1572
02:01:42.560 --> 02:01:45.079
much for hanging out. We're gonna
thank you, man. And I know

1573
02:01:45.239 --> 02:01:49.560
sometimes I ramble on and I have
to pass forward and rewind, but it's

1574
02:01:49.600 --> 02:01:54.640
hard when you have so much to
say to try to fit it all into

1575
02:01:54.800 --> 02:01:57.880
an hour, you know what I
mean, I get it, but no,

1576
02:01:58.159 --> 02:02:00.760
I thank you man, Thank you
for having me let me ship absolutely

1577
02:02:00.920 --> 02:02:04.960
what's happened to me? Again?
A special thanks to Brian Garvey from Brian

1578
02:02:05.039 --> 02:02:10.800
and Chewy Goo Hiking on YouTube for
spending some time with me on the podcast

1579
02:02:10.960 --> 02:02:15.520
sharing his bigfoot encounters. Brian and
I speak for an extra thirty minutes in

1580
02:02:15.760 --> 02:02:19.800
Bigfoot Society off Record, which is
pretty much when me and the guest hang

1581
02:02:19.880 --> 02:02:25.039
out for an extra period of time
for the Patreon, and you can also

1582
02:02:25.760 --> 02:02:30.319
hear it on the YouTube channel if
you become a supporting member over there as

1583
02:02:30.399 --> 02:02:36.279
well. We talk about crazy moose
encounters and I share a moose encounter that

1584
02:02:36.520 --> 02:02:42.800
happened to my family up in katad
And Maine when I was a very young

1585
02:02:42.960 --> 02:02:45.880
child, and it gets pretty intense, so you don't want to miss it

1586
02:02:45.319 --> 02:02:53.119
again. You can listen to Bigciety
off record by joining the Patreon or becoming

1587
02:02:53.199 --> 02:02:56.640
a YouTube channel member. You can
find those links in the show notes.

1588
02:02:57.000 --> 02:03:00.000
Again, thank you for listening.
You'd like to make a special one time

1589
02:03:00.239 --> 02:03:02.520
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1590
02:03:02.640 --> 02:03:09.000
Coffee page and I'd like to shout
out someone who has bought us a coffee

1591
02:03:09.119 --> 02:03:13.680
this last week, mister Wayland W. Colburn his messages. I love the

1592
02:03:13.760 --> 02:03:17.079
show. I used to listen to
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1593
02:03:17.199 --> 02:03:21.439
podcast, but they never have any
new stuff. Keep up the good work,

1594
02:03:21.560 --> 02:03:26.119
my friend, Well, I appreciate
that Wayland. If you'd like to

1595
02:03:26.159 --> 02:03:28.600
buy me a coffee as well,
you can head on over to the show

1596
02:03:28.640 --> 02:03:31.840
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1597
02:03:31.920 --> 02:03:39.479
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1598
02:03:39.640 --> 02:03:45.199
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1599
02:03:45.279 --> 02:03:49.680
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1600
02:03:50.079 --> 02:03:57.119
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02:03:57.159 --> 02:04:00.600
you'll find the share your Bigfoot Encounter
for a little lower on the page,

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and please take a minute to share
as many details as you can. Please

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state if the encounter is anonymous or
what name you would like associated with the

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encounter, and as always thanks for
listening and real quick before we go,

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one last thing If you're in Iowa
and you would like to hear me give

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a presentation, I am doing presentations
at the Iarlham Public Library and Arlham,

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Iowa for their summer Reading program.
The first one is coming up soon on

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June thirtieth at three pm Central Standard
time. I will be doing an our

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presentation on how to start your own
podcast. Also on July twenty eight,

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at three pm Central Standard time,
I'll be doing a presentation on Bigfoot.

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If you're in Iowa, you probably
will definitely want to hear this presentation as

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be talking about Bigfoot in general for
the first fifteen minutes, then fifteen minutes

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or so on Bigfoot in Iowa,
be talking about a lot of stuff that

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I haven't really shared before, and
then we'll see where the last fifteen minutes

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go. Yeah, there's some stuff
bigfoot in Irlam, so you won't want

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to miss that. And then there'll
be a Q and A at the end

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for fifteen minutes. But no cost
for this. It's just part of the

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Irlam Public Library Summer Reading program Again. June thirtieth, three pm Central Standard

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time for the podcast one. In
July twenty eight, three pm Central Standard

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time for the big Foot one IRELM
Public Library in Irlam, Iowa. We'll

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see you there.