"I Watched Those Sasquatch Tear Those Deer Apart" | Return of Joe The Sasquatch Whisperer

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Bigfoot Society got the privilege of talking
to Joe again. You may remember

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we talked to Joe a few months
back. He's a hunter from the Mississippi

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and he gets called in to interesting
situation where people are having maybe not the

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best encounters with bigfoot on their properties. But how are you doing today,

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Joe? I'm good, pretty good. I hope your day is going well.

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Yeah, it's it's a good day, just kind of chilling out and

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we're getting a little bit of rain
in Iowa, but we need it,

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so that is all right for me. So, yeah, we were getting

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a little bit of rain here.
It's been cloud the last couple of days.

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There's a fall time for sure,
so we'll get our week of fall

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hopefully before it turns into winter.
Absolutely, so around here, you know,

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I hear that sometimes the Bigfoot activity
starts to amp up a little bit

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in the fall. Is that the
same thing down in Mississippi? Or yeah,

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pretty much it's in my area where
I live. It amps up between

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the middle of September are all the
way up through February, and then it

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kind of dies down. In the
summer months for the most part is quiet.

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But this year we had activity a
little bit all all summer or not

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every day or anything like that,
but just little stuff here and there.

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But for the most part, in
the autumn time or they're transitioning from eating

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mostly plants to going into finding their
nuts or acorns, and then of course

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mostly a meat dit in the winter
time. So stuff does pick up around

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here, absolutely. And we had
been chatting a little bit on Facebook back

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and forth, and it sounds like
there's some some interesting things happening pretty close

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to your area recently. Would you
be able to share a little bit about

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that. Sure, I have stuff
ongoing a lot. I tell people a

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lot of times, and it seems
like I'm a magnant for these animals.

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But ever since I've moved here in
this house, we've had continuous activity.

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Not every day like in some places
I live, but this time of year,

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for example, when the sun starts
going down around six thirty, twilight

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hits, it's like somebody opens up
the gates of hall and you hear all

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kinds of screaming, and it's multi
octaves, and it might last one scream,

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might last two or three minutes,
and then it'll be done for the

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day. And you might hear all
that two or three times and it's done.

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And it may be answered and it
may not. And I'm not sure

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what that's about. That's something unique
to down here. But I've had friends

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come over h that I was telling
about a couple of years ago about it,

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and they are researched. I'm not
a researcher, I'm a haunter,

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but they research and they come over
them while they were setting up there all

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equipment. Though they heard it for
the first time, and it shocked them

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so much that they completely forgot about
their equipment. They were just sitting there

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saying, what in the world how
the people around here not hear this and

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listen? I don't know how they
don't hear it. I hear it.

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T reason why I am about to
come over and and listen to the stuff

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that we have. Stuff like that. There's a lot of al imitations this

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time year. And even though there
are owls, you can tell the difference.

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You know, an owl will make
the same sound every time because it's

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an animal that doesn't mimic other animals. But when you get an owl that

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starts out sounding like an owl and
then morphs inure sounding like a crow,

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and then sounding like a primate lifeing
or whatever, you know, that's that's

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not an owl. You know,
even though owls, especially barn owls,

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can make some pretty hair raising sounds, So you can tell the difference if

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it's an owl or you know,
for one thing, an owl doesn't sound

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like it's five hundred pounds on a
blasting PA system, and the volume is

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a thing that I look for for
that too. Yeah, there's been there's

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been a lot of stuff going on
back and forth, you know. I

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had sasquatch so crawl up to my
camp or my bonfire I have out here

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in my backyard. Had one that
was standing in the tree line and the

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other one crawled up. And I
was sitting around though, listening to some

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music and stuff, and I saw
it and it acted like it though I

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didn't think I could see it,
so I snapped a picture of it.

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You can see the eye shine the
two creatures in the picture when they were

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there, you know, stuff like
that. How high up would you estimate

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the eye shine was in the picture. One in the tree line was probably

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at least eight and a half feet
tall, the one on the ground,

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it barely crawled up. I watched
it. I got out the next day

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and I hadn't had my grasp at
the time. You say, were and

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crawled up and laid there for a
little while, and you could see the

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outline of it. But it kind
of spider crawled up or I can't explain

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how they do it. More than
more than that, I guess the elbows

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and the knees. The elbows are
out and the knees are up, but

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it's almost like a crouching cat.
But they cross sideways and it's weird,

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you know, but it's kind of
freaky if you're not if you're not expecting

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something like that. And I haven't
seen that a lot, but in this

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area I've seen. I've had these
creatures coming on my property since I moved

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in here. A matter of fact, the first day that we were moving

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in, there was a tree within
five feet of the west side of my

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house. I had a tree twist
in it. And while we were moving

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in, know, I just got
married to my wife at that time,

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and I was telling her, you
don't look there. That looks like a

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big foot twist on that tree,
and she was laughing at me and her

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her son was laughing at me until
we had windows scream at us from across

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the fence, like directly across from
that tree, and their job dropped.

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And let's say, I told you
that's probably what that is. And the

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house that we're in now had been
vacant for a while. I think that

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they were getting up under the porch
and the younger ones was staying around there

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after we come around and they got
upset because we moved into their house and

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there's there's been things going on.
Absolutely, so you mentioned screams a few

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times. Are these do they sound
almost like human screams or is just something

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that's just completely different than any other
sound. They they sound like human screams,

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just like you screamed at the top
of your lungs, just one loud

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blasts. That happens more in the
early fall time. In the summertime,

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it sounds more like a loud yawn, like you know, like that,

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but it sounds like something took a
deep breath and almost like they woke up

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and they have the huge lungs and
they yawned as loud as they could.

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And that happens in the early evenings
a lot of times when the sun goes

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down right right around then. And
I've always attributed that to a yawn.

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That's what I thought it was.
And I'd hear this on podcasts and stuff,

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and that color moan to be like, well, you know, why

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would an animal that be that wants
to stay hidden a moan like that?

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And to me, it makes sense
if they if they woke up, they

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were just yawning and and uh stretching
or whatever, you know, that makes

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sense to me. But that's what
it sounds like to me. That's very

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it's very interesting. Have you heard
of any uh, any sounds that sound

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like whoops in around your area?
Yes? Oh, I hear them all

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year long. Oh h You you
walk out outside and you can go like,

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well this this week, I haven't
been out and last couple of nights,

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but Tuesday night we I was out
there and it was quiet, and

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I heard like that right there and
it was just one time. Well about

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five minutes later, I heard a
tree knock, just one loud whack.

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Sounded like somebody took a piece of
oak and hit it up against a pine

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tree and its echo real loud.
So I've learned that I don't know how

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it is in every area, but
down here where I'm at, if if

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something answers another animal, it doesn't
do the same thing. For example,

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if if it makes an owl mimic, it's not going to answer with an

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al mimic Somewhere else. It's gonna
be either a whistle or a quick foot

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or a tree knock. Or if
it starts out with a tree knock,

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uh, there's gonna be a vocalization, but it's not going to answer tree

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knock with a tree knock. And
you know, I've I've got into arguments

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with people that that's say, well, no, if they have a tree

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knock, that's saying I'm right here, and another one's got a tree knock

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over there, saying I'm over here, And I'm like, well, you

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know, it's not worth arguing over
for me. I know what happens here,

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and I can just talk about what
I've experienced in my real life.

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So what they do over there,
I guess it's up to their interpretation.

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But you'll hear tree knocks here.
You'll hear our ammics. You'll hear a

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turkey call at midnight, you know, or at one in the morning.

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Everybody knows turkeys are asleep when the
sun goes down. You don't hear you

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don't hear hens chirping at midnight or
one in the morning, or you don't

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hear a morning dove holler after ten
pm and before three am. You know,

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it's those sounds that I listen for
that maybe natural sounds, but they're

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out of context or they're out of
time. You know, if you're if

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you're eating dinner at eleven thirty and
you hear at alot, you know that

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that's that's not normal because at al
is out at knight and well there's things

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like that that goes on, Joe, have you ever speaking of sounds that

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maybe don't belong in a certain area. Have you ever heard sounds that really

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don't belong in your area, like
totally out of context for the woods?

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Yes, I heard. I've heard
some things in the woods that sound like

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a line boring. You know.
Uh, it sounds like, uh,

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you listen you listen to horror movies
or or you listen to animal documentaries where

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you hear just this loud roar that
sounds kind of like an alligator growling.

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I know what that sounds like,
Like an alligator will will growl and make

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the water vibrate and it's a real
deep guttural growl. And I've heard I've

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heard that in the woods a lot
of times and not find nothing or have

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anything that that I can associate it
with. And to me that if you

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look at it in the Sasquatch context, that's an animal that's that's hid that

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you're getting too close and he's like, you know, back off, I'm

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here, uh, you know,
And it's just like a with a dog

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or or any other animal if you
get closer and that it gets uncomfortable.

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He's gonna let you know where she's
gonna let you know. Listen, we'll

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you're in my space. But I've
heard I've heard things like that. I've

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also heard, Oh, I live. I live within five miles of two

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different watersheds, and the nearest watershed
is about a mile and an eight straight

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behind me, through a cow pasture, and it's within line of line of

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sights down there. Sometimes you will
hear something to holler. It starts out

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like a why, and it ends
up in a howl, and I can't

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I can't. I can't a mimic
that because I don't think my vocal cords

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are made to do that. But
after it does that, the cow these

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uh will kick in and they will
they will stir up, and then all

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of the dogs in the neighborhood will
be quiet, and you'll hear a little

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while later. It may be an
hour an hour and a half later,

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Uh, you'll hear a loud wail
and followed by woot, and then all

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the dogs in the neighborhood go crazy, and uh, you know this is

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this is happening after ten p m. I'm setting outside sometimes from from six

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in the evening by my fire up
to one two in the morning, and

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this is this is all happening well
in the middle of the knights, when

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you know, there be some nights
when for example, a week and a

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half ago, we oh, I
was outside and you heard every cow in

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the in the area seemed like they
were a moaning or moving and low end.

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And there was something hollering in the
in the woods north of me,

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and in that direction there's not any
cows for about five miles, but it

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sounded like a bull got his testicles
hung on barbed wire and it was loud,

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you know, And I had my
younger sons like, what is that?

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I said, I don't know,
but I'm not going in the woods

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to find out, because whatever it
is is either hurt or he's baiting somebody

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to come in and check on a
bull that's hurt. So I were leaving

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that alone. Yes, that's a
good call. I'm not going to go

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near any creature that's that's having a
bad day like that, for sure,

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or anyone that's pretending to. But
have you ever talked to your neighbors about

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to see if theeve had issues on
their property as well. Yeah, I

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actually run a dog kennels for a
dog trainer and his family owns, like

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I guess, probably three thousand acres
within the family around that part of the

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the county. And it's just the
property starts across the road for me and

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goes north and west, if that
makes sense. And he's got a first

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cousin. When I first started working
for him, he saw the the DCALLI

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Sasquatch and my phone number that says
if you've seen me, call me on

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the back of my truck. And
he's asking me about that. He's like,

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you believe in that? I was
like, yeah, why you don't

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believe in that? He said,
I don't know. I said, well,

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they're around here, and he said, well, I've never seen one.

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He said, but my son and
God in the trees. And when

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he was thirty years old and about
eight in the morning, he called me

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up with his step on said Daddy, I need you to bring your gun

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and get in your truck and drive
down here and get me. And it

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was only about two hundred or three
hundred yards from the back porch, he

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said, and he laughed at him. He said, why in the world

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do you need me to do that? You ain't no kid walked back up

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here. He said, no,
Jeddie, here's something in these woods.

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He said, he's shaking trees and
I ain't coming down. He said,

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I'm afraid come down. He said. He went down there and got him.

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Said they didn't hear nothing, didn't
see nothing. But on the way

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back there was a small tree that
was pushed over the cattle trail that he

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drove down to get down there and
said that they had to get out and

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move the tree with hooked the winch
up to the truck and moved the tree

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so they could get out. And
he just drove down through there and they

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heard the tree fall. His first
cousin is deceased now, but he his

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property is just across the road for
me. And he he was he is

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was a lifelong farmer and he raised
soybeans and cotton and corn. And he

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has a section of his property he
he raises and breaks horses, and he

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has a place that he is cutting
hay. And he used to cut hay

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up at up till eleven or twelve
at night. And uh and my bosses

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tell me that he was down there
one night and he heard something scream at

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him that was loud enough that he
was driving a tractor, a no cab

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tractor with the UH bush hog on
the back, and he heard it scream,

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and he cut the the motor down
and stopped and listened to it for

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a while, and it gave him
the creeps, so he cut his UH.

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He he drove his tractor up to
his truck that was in the field

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as partner the field, and left
the tractor there, got his truck and

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left UH. The next day,
the tractor in the UH the bush hog

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was flipped upside down, and the
bush hog was still connected to the tractor.

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And this was a forward tractor UH
and had a six foot bush hog

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on the back of it. Where
they were they were clearing that property out.

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Said it had been dry that night, there wasn't any rain. It

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was on flat ground. There's no
reason why that thing should have been upside

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down. But it had been upside
down so long, had all the all

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in gas and everything he had leaked
out onto the ground. And he quit.

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He quit doing any bush hog or
cutting hay after dark or after that,

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And Wow, I got another neighbor
up here that I talked to,

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and he lives. He lives about
a quarter mile from me, and he's

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he's a special needs guy. He's
he's probably fifty five years old. He's

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lived with his mommy his whole life
and everything. She died and he lives

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by hisself. But I was talking
with him one day, taking him to

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the store and stuff, and he's
seen that decal on the back of my

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truck, and he said, you
know, people think I'm crazy because I

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think buggers are in the woods,
he said, but I hear them out

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here all the time, and you
know I don't. I said, well,

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if you want to talk about it, tell me about it. He's

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like, well, really, I
don't know what to tell you. And

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he told me about another neighbor has
some sheep that that something would get the

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sheep, or every now on end
when the sheep would lamb, they might

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have one or two a year that
would come up missing. And there's a

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hog farm he knew about down in
Hatche Bottom up there about five miles from

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our house. That it's got a
hog farm that he said they would come

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up missing and stuff. But there's
people around here know about it. And

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I've been down here about four or
five years, and I'm starting to meet

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enough people and they get to know
me enough that they open up a little

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bit about it. Men, when
I first moved down here with nobody say

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nothing, my landlord say well,
I guess something's out and I'd be like,

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what do you mean. She said, well, something's in the woods.

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I guess you hear it moving around. And I've actually found a place

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up there behind her house where there's
a tree twist where if I was eight

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foot tallt I walked up and stood
that there and looked at her house.

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I could see right inside her storm
door, in her back or in the

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back of her house, or watch
anything it goes on on her back porch.

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So I tuck her down in her
shoulder then, and she's like,

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yeah, well, I'm not getting
out at the doork no more. It's

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definitely a stuff that goes on around
here. Wow, Joe, that's it's

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even more wild when you hear that
it's not just your area, but it's

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also your neighbors around your area as
well, or having the same or similar

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things go on. My goodness,
have you you know over the years,

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I'm sure you've observed a lot,
you've heard a lot. Do you get

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the feeling that you're dealing with creatures
that are more let's say they have a

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positive intent or they have a negative
of intent towards humans. I think they

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have a neutral intent. Okay,
for example, for me and you,

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a starling or a or a jack
doll or a blue jay. They're not

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on their or on their food list, you know, our grocery list.

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So if they fly around, we
don't pay attention to them. You know,

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if they're doing something odd that we
think is interesting, we might sit

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there and watch them for a minute, be like, Okay, that's funny,

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and go on. Well. I
think these things look at us like

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that in a certain extent where you
know, we're we're not necessarily on a

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food chain. But if they say
something interesting and they're boring and you're doing

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something, so you're cutting grass or
you're outside splitting wood or weed eating or

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whatever, and they're bored, they're
like, oh, that's interesting, let's

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see what they do, and then
they go back on business. I get

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a lot of people who had this
accelerated sense of importance that we are to

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these creatures. They think, oh, well, they did this, it

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must be because of something I did. Now, it's probably something that they

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did and you just happened to be
there. For example, I had a

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guy a few years back that called
me and he was adamant that sasquatch was

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harassing them, trying to get in
their house. So he was upset.

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He was scared, he was scared, he was passed upset. His wife

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was about ready to leave. She's
like, listen, I might love you,

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but when when our marriage vow said
for better or worse, they didn't

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say it's going to be this bath, you know. And so they had

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just moved in their property or down
in the central Alabama and they put all

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their money in it. They didn't
have the money to Oh they was a

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younger couple. Uh, and they
had I think, uh two kids and

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one on the way or she just
had had the new one at that time.

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I'm trying to remember. Anyway,
So he said, just come down

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here and uh and see what we
or what we got going on. He

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said, they're trying to get in
the house. They're trying to tear up

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the roof and it it's driving us
crazy. I said, well, okay,

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I'll come down there, so I
come. I drove down there that

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next weekend, and my boys was
at their mom's that whole weekend. So

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I stayed down there that weekend and
is barn I said, listen, here's

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what I'm gonna do, y'all.
Y'all do y'all dorm a thing. I'm

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gonna come out here in this barn
I said, it's it's September, it's

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not really cold. You got a
hayloft up wire. That's me that spy.

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I'm going to leave the door open
on the hayloft and I'm going to

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sit here and listen, and we're
going to see what's going on. He

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said, Man, I don't know
if you want to stay in that stoll

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in that Hayborn said, why if
they crawl up in there and haul you

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off. I said, well,
then you know they got me and they

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didn't get y'alling. Y'all okay,
And I said, but it may sound

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crazy, but that's that's something I'll
do, just because I think at what

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you're what you're comprehending and interpreting,
it may be a little bit different than

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what's going on. Well. To
make a long story short, there was

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a group of four of juvenile or
pre adult sasquatch. I don't know if

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they were all male or off,
or all female or all mixed, but

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they were they were they were adolescents. One one would come up to the

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tree line and he would holler real
loud to see if he could get a

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reaction out of the house. All
right, Well, then another one and

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I watched this. Another one would
run or what after he hollered they didn't

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get a reaction. He another one
running around to the backside of the house

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and screamed closer to the house,
and it was almost like, well,

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I'm going to outdo him, so
if I can get something stirred up over

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here. Well after that they went
and uh. The guy called me on

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the phone. I was in this. I was in his barn and I

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had my phone on vibrate and they
called his they're here. I said,

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yeah, I know, I'm watching
them. I said, you're good.

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The juveniles uh. And another juvenile
went up close and threw a good sized

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rock and hit the top of his
metal roof. He had a steel corrugated

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steel roof on the house and hit
bang real loud, and there you heard

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the rock roll down from the from
the barn, and I was on the

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phone with him. I was like, listen, this isn't anything aggressive.

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He's a man. They're tearing up
the house. I said, no,

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we'll be back with more Bigfoot Society
after these words from our sponsors. They're

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doing inne And after that, another
one was setting there and the guy opened

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up the door looking out because I
told him it was juveniles he was trying

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to sell. Well, he opened
up the door and looked out, and

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they squatted down at the tree line. And the tree line was about I

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guess eighty feet sixty feet maybe from
his front door, across across the gravel

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road. And he was looking and
he didn't see it. He's like,

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I don't seem nowhere. I said, well, they're squatted down in the

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grass right now. I had binoculars
I was watching them with and I said,

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listen, you closed the front door, just leave them all. They'll

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be okay. Well, when he
closed the front door, another one run

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up on the on the side of
the house and slapped it just like that

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right there. And he had listened
in on the house to see if he

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heard any movement. When he didn't
hear any movement, he moved around a

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little bit to the left and he
slapped the house again, and apparently he

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heard movement, because it looked like
he got he got tickled, and he

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run back to the woods, and
you see them all had their heads together.

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It's almost like they were whispering.
Yeah, here's what happened. Is

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what you know? It looked like
it looked like a bunch of juvenile high

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school boys pulling planks, and it
was. It was wouldn't have been comical

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if it wasn't if it was humans. In other words, but for these

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things, what they do and what
they know, the reason why they do

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it is not the same as why
we do. You know, they could

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very well be saying, well,
we if we do something else, we

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might get one of them out here
to statue up and leave. I don't

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know there's things, but I just
know what I watched. So when that,

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when that didn't get nobody out,
uh, another one run down and

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jumped up on the porch and uh
and slapped the porch with both of his

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hands. Went jumped on the porch
and made a pop and with his feet

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when he landed, and then he
bent over just like a grill and slapped

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up, slapped the floorboards, and
uh. I was talking to the guy

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and you could hear the windows rattle, and I was like, listen this,

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Uh these I know this is scary
for you. You think it just

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the same buoger doing this. But
this is a group of younger boogers that

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ain't got nothing to do but get
in trouble. I said, so we

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can, we can deal with this
and uh so Uh the last one,

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when that didn't get any response,
went around and shut the door. Uh.

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He grabbed the door hand the door
knobbing and shook it. Uh.

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And then he went around to the
back door and did the same thing.

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Well, that guy like to come
and glued. Then he's like, I'm

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gonna get my gun. I'm gonna
start shooting, and all listen, we're

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gonna fix this. I'm watching this. They don't. They're they're mischievous,

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they're they're being aggravating, but they're
not being hostile. We don't need the

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gun. Uh, we take care
of this. And so uh when they

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all went around, they all they
stopped and watched and nothing. He didn't

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come outside, so they sat still. And then when they realized that they

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couldn't get nothing stirred up at the
house. They all come down towards the

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barn because there was live stock in
the barn. Uh. He had some

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goats down there and some chickens,
and they was in the in the barn.

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Well when they come down there,
Oh, they come walking down the

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tree line and they got past to
where I couldn't see out the hayloft,

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but I could hear them. And
they come around to the back, and

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there wasn't an opening in the hay
loft up there. I couldn't look out

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back there. And there's there was
a breezeway where you pull a tractor all

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into the barn and you go out
the back, and that was open.

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And they come in there and start
moving around and looking at stuff, and

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I racked a I racked a shell
into my shotgun. I said, all

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right, if y'all don't get out
of here, I'm gonna tell y'all's daddy

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on y'all. And I hollered as
loud as I could, And you would

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have thought that they tore down the
side of that dog barn trying to get

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out of there. They didn't know
I was there, and it scared them,

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and it was almost like teenage kids
that got caught. And it was

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like, well, I'm gonna tell
your daddy. Okay, Well daddy don't

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know we're here. We better get
you know. And so they didn't come

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back the rest of that night.
They didn't come back that next night,

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they didn't come back Monday night.
Whenever he called me and let me know,

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I said, well, they'll be
back, but this here is how

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you deal with that. And so
whenever they come back at next Tuesday night,

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they were just hooping and hollering in
the woods, and he'd call me

406
00:35:30.599 --> 00:35:32.039
on the phone. He's like,
well, they're out here hooping again.

407
00:35:32.119 --> 00:35:37.639
I said, well, they're just
they're just feeling their oats. I guess

408
00:35:37.679 --> 00:35:39.840
just go out there and tell them
to shut up. You're trying to sleep

409
00:35:39.920 --> 00:35:44.239
aller at them, I said,
they see you as the alpha mail.

410
00:35:44.880 --> 00:35:49.840
They're trying to see how far they
can push you until you react to a

411
00:35:49.880 --> 00:35:52.679
way that they're not alpha animals,
or else they would have come in the

412
00:35:52.719 --> 00:35:58.199
door. Whenever, whenever you go
out there and they run off, they're

413
00:35:58.239 --> 00:36:01.360
not shaking that door to to get
in the house, to shaking that door

414
00:36:01.400 --> 00:36:07.000
to get a rise out of you. And so over the process of the

415
00:36:07.039 --> 00:36:12.400
next couple of months. They didn't
go away or easy, but he would

416
00:36:12.400 --> 00:36:16.000
go out there whenever they or they
would start their stuff, and he would

417
00:36:16.039 --> 00:36:20.000
holler at them and say, listen, y'all be quiet, I got kids

418
00:36:20.039 --> 00:36:24.920
in here. You scering the kids, you know. And after a while

419
00:36:25.679 --> 00:36:30.159
they got to work. You know, Okay, we know what he's gonna

420
00:36:30.159 --> 00:36:32.719
do. It's gonna be one time
and he's not coming out no more.

421
00:36:32.760 --> 00:36:37.320
And then they they kind of left
him alone. They still mess with stuff,

422
00:36:37.440 --> 00:36:42.599
take stuff out of the yard,
but they would always return it.

423
00:36:43.239 --> 00:36:50.280
And it's just like with people.
If you and I are together and I've

424
00:36:50.320 --> 00:36:53.760
got a nice hunting rifle and i
set it up next to the tree,

425
00:36:53.800 --> 00:36:59.519
and I go around and used to
buy room in the bushes, you know

426
00:36:59.639 --> 00:37:01.760
that I set that gun down,
and I'm coming back to get it.

427
00:37:02.039 --> 00:37:06.719
That's my gun. It's as far
as me and use concerned, that's my

428
00:37:06.880 --> 00:37:09.440
gun. Well, with them,
if I set that gun down and I

429
00:37:09.519 --> 00:37:14.320
walk off and I go use the
bathroom, I'm through with that gun.

430
00:37:14.360 --> 00:37:20.519
It's whoever's can whoever can get its
gun at that point, And in that

431
00:37:20.639 --> 00:37:27.960
way, I don't think they understand
the uh, the civilized version of owning

432
00:37:28.039 --> 00:37:32.800
property. It's so it's whoever's so, I ain't or whoever's got it.

433
00:37:32.840 --> 00:37:36.519
When they're through with it, they
set it down or walk it off and

434
00:37:36.639 --> 00:37:40.440
leave it, and whoever comes along
and needs it or wants that they pick

435
00:37:40.440 --> 00:37:45.360
it up and take it out.
And that that in itself causes a lot

436
00:37:45.400 --> 00:37:54.239
of conflict in uh in uh messing
with these animals as far as dealing with

437
00:37:54.239 --> 00:38:00.880
them on a daily basis, that's
that is incredible. It sounds like you

438
00:38:00.960 --> 00:38:06.400
were able to really have some time
looking at these creatures as they were running

439
00:38:06.440 --> 00:38:10.320
around, messing with the house,
all that good stuff. Are you able

440
00:38:10.360 --> 00:38:15.679
to kind of describe what what they
actually looked like? What what you saw?

441
00:38:15.840 --> 00:38:21.000
Was it similar to you know what
everyone says? Or did you notice

442
00:38:21.039 --> 00:38:24.559
some things that may have been different
than the normal? Oh? Well,

443
00:38:24.559 --> 00:38:28.440
in different parts of the country they
look a little bit different. They don't

444
00:38:28.480 --> 00:38:31.960
look like Paddy down here in the
South. Uh you say that at Patterson

445
00:38:32.039 --> 00:38:37.320
Gimlin. Uh Take where Patty's walking
across that creek bed and turns around and

446
00:38:37.320 --> 00:38:42.960
looks at you. That may be
what they look like in the Pacific Northwest.

447
00:38:42.960 --> 00:38:47.000
And I've seen I've seen some looked
similar to that in Texas, but

448
00:38:47.159 --> 00:38:58.639
down here they look more like a
mix between a down syndrome chimpanzee and uh

449
00:38:59.079 --> 00:39:04.280
I guess on a bowl mixed.
And they're they're pretty aggressive if you don't

450
00:39:04.320 --> 00:39:09.360
know how to handle them, but
they're not always they're not just so aggressive

451
00:39:09.440 --> 00:39:13.639
that they're all territorial. Because you're
there, they're gonna run you out.

452
00:39:14.199 --> 00:39:17.559
Some some of them will do that, but that's usually the ones that's been

453
00:39:17.599 --> 00:39:22.559
shot at and things. But if
you if you want a good mental little

454
00:39:22.599 --> 00:39:31.679
picture of what one looks like,
you will take take a chimpanzee and stretch

455
00:39:31.840 --> 00:39:38.400
stretches a body of proportions out to
about six and a half seven foot tall

456
00:39:38.599 --> 00:39:43.599
for juvenile, all a foot and
a half or two foot taller or down

457
00:39:43.639 --> 00:39:49.199
here for a male or adult male. And there is a sexual dimorphism in

458
00:39:49.320 --> 00:39:53.719
them, and that the females are
shorter than the males. An adult female

459
00:39:53.840 --> 00:40:02.000
don't get much bigger than a than
a early young don't male. And the

460
00:40:02.199 --> 00:40:10.159
forehead, the brow is really pronounced. It comes out from a sloped forehead,

461
00:40:12.800 --> 00:40:19.360
and the eyebrows are almost almost protruding
enough that you think who had order

462
00:40:19.360 --> 00:40:22.679
to make a natural shade fall,
you know, And that's why a lot

463
00:40:22.760 --> 00:40:25.920
of people think they see them with
black eyes. It's because their eyes are

464
00:40:25.960 --> 00:40:31.639
in set so far that there's a
permanent shadow on there. The nose is

465
00:40:31.760 --> 00:40:37.320
flatter than the humans. It's a
hooded nose, but it is wide.

466
00:40:39.840 --> 00:40:45.920
It is got the nostrils pointed down. Some of them are pointed out,

467
00:40:45.920 --> 00:40:50.760
and I think that may just be
a individual variance in the same species,

468
00:40:51.280 --> 00:40:54.400
but most of them down. Here's
the noses, the hood that that's pointed

469
00:40:54.440 --> 00:41:01.000
down. There's a longer upper lip
than humans have. And then the mouth

470
00:41:01.119 --> 00:41:07.519
is wide there. It's almost like
it's almost like you CEOs cartoon clowns when

471
00:41:07.519 --> 00:41:12.719
they smile and their mouth stretches real
wide to their ears. Their mouth is

472
00:41:12.840 --> 00:41:16.840
like that. Their teeth is like
humans, but they're like this. They're

473
00:41:17.039 --> 00:41:30.000
they're huge. The insizers are probably
I don't know the size of well a

474
00:41:30.119 --> 00:41:36.800
squire chewing gum. I mean,
it's it's that wide. And I don't

475
00:41:36.840 --> 00:41:42.880
ever notice they have canines, But
I don't see like any massive canines like

476
00:41:42.960 --> 00:41:45.480
you would see on a baboon or
nothing out of these here. They're pretty

477
00:41:45.559 --> 00:41:52.519
much like human teeth, but on
a bigger scale. Their jaws are all

478
00:41:52.599 --> 00:41:58.760
wide and uh and thick. You
can tell there's a lot of muscles and

479
00:41:58.360 --> 00:42:01.320
uh and bone masks and a jaw. They must have a really strong bite,

480
00:42:01.360 --> 00:42:05.679
of course. Uh. They got
a neck, but their trap muscles

481
00:42:05.719 --> 00:42:10.079
are so big that it's like it's
like their neck is uh is hid behind

482
00:42:10.119 --> 00:42:15.679
their trap muscles on their back.
They're not all that people say there's an

483
00:42:15.719 --> 00:42:20.159
hour glass shape to them. I'm
pretty sure some of them have. But

484
00:42:20.559 --> 00:42:24.400
all these down here have like a
gorilla type body. Uh Uh. You

485
00:42:24.480 --> 00:42:31.480
don't have these massive uh arms and
then a little bitty legs or nothing like

486
00:42:31.519 --> 00:42:38.000
that. But their arms are longer
than their legs. I think, I

487
00:42:38.039 --> 00:42:45.320
think that when they're young, and
I've got places I've seen that support this,

488
00:42:45.480 --> 00:42:49.519
that they live in the trees more
than on ground. I don't think

489
00:42:49.519 --> 00:42:52.960
they come down on the ground a
lot until they're at least five six feet

490
00:42:52.039 --> 00:42:57.199
tall. And uh. I've got
a friend of mine that has a uh

491
00:42:57.760 --> 00:43:02.360
uh what I call a sasquatch nursery
in his yard or in his hunting area

492
00:43:02.440 --> 00:43:12.159
back there behind his yard, and
there's a tree that is I guess eighty

493
00:43:12.280 --> 00:43:16.320
or eighty five feet tall. It's
a giant pine tree. On the side

494
00:43:16.320 --> 00:43:23.679
away from the road, you can
see where something over generations animals have slid

495
00:43:23.719 --> 00:43:29.079
down the side of that tree,
and that bark is completely slick. On

496
00:43:29.119 --> 00:43:32.159
the other side facing the road,
the bark looks normal, but you can

497
00:43:32.159 --> 00:43:37.199
tell it looks like something slid down
the side of that tree. And there

498
00:43:37.280 --> 00:43:42.079
are trees that are pushed over for
the younger ones to learn to crawl and

499
00:43:42.159 --> 00:43:50.119
to climb on. And I've always
hypothesized that the reason when you see a

500
00:43:50.159 --> 00:43:53.800
sasquatch walk and he's walking in the
straight line as opposed to waddling like humans,

501
00:43:53.880 --> 00:44:00.440
is it's because he learned to walk
on the tree limbs. They had

502
00:44:00.440 --> 00:44:05.000
to balance like that. Well,
after they get big enough, they get

503
00:44:05.039 --> 00:44:07.360
on the ground and I can't knit
and hurt them, they still walk like

504
00:44:07.400 --> 00:44:17.760
that because that's how they learned,
And that's that would make sense. That

505
00:44:17.840 --> 00:44:22.519
makes sense to me, because I've
seen littlands up in the tree and the

506
00:44:22.559 --> 00:44:25.239
only time that I've seen them come
down is when the mom has been there

507
00:44:25.280 --> 00:44:30.679
and said come on, Sure,
that makes sense. The similarities. How

508
00:44:30.719 --> 00:44:37.199
you talked about the similarities between them
and the chimpanzees, but it stretched out

509
00:44:37.280 --> 00:44:45.119
is really it's such an interesting mental
picture and not really the most comforting one,

510
00:44:45.480 --> 00:44:47.599
to be honest. But do you
think you know, if you look

511
00:44:47.639 --> 00:44:55.239
into chimpanzees, their behavior sometimes can
be just quite vicious and they will just

512
00:44:55.400 --> 00:45:00.719
tear things apart. Do you have
there been I'm sure you've been around a

513
00:45:00.760 --> 00:45:07.360
lot of times where there's been sasquatch
that have been hostile environments as well.

514
00:45:07.639 --> 00:45:14.760
Have you seen those kind of same
behaviors in sasquatch where you know the chimpanzees

515
00:45:14.840 --> 00:45:21.239
are acting in a negative way,
or we'll be back with more bigfoot society

516
00:45:21.320 --> 00:45:30.480
after these words from our sponsors,
I've seen I've seen where they do that,

517
00:45:30.599 --> 00:45:37.719
and I think what you're getting at
is they act uncivilized absolutely, and

518
00:45:37.719 --> 00:45:42.440
and that's why that's why you know
these people run around say, oh,

519
00:45:42.480 --> 00:45:47.800
these are these are forced people that
are channel and they love nature and they

520
00:45:49.519 --> 00:45:52.079
they want to be your friends.
They're going to protect you, blah blah

521
00:45:52.039 --> 00:45:57.920
blah. Uh. No, they're
not you. You only hear stories from

522
00:45:57.920 --> 00:46:01.519
the people who who or were helped
out of the woods. You don't hear

523
00:46:01.719 --> 00:46:07.480
stories about the people who who are
walked up on one that was having a

524
00:46:07.519 --> 00:46:09.039
bad day, got pissed off,
ripped them up, eat them and left.

525
00:46:09.239 --> 00:46:14.880
You know, it's just like just
like with dolphins. People people for

526
00:46:14.960 --> 00:46:20.400
a century said, well, dolphins
will help sailor get back to the shore.

527
00:46:20.760 --> 00:46:23.760
Well, you don't know about the
dolphins that tucked the sailor and pushed

528
00:46:23.800 --> 00:46:27.920
him out further the sea, because
there's no nobody there left to tell that

529
00:46:28.000 --> 00:46:31.079
story. And these are kind of
like the same way. You know,

530
00:46:32.920 --> 00:46:39.280
if they were a type man,
they would be more terrifying than if they

531
00:46:39.320 --> 00:46:45.760
were just another primate. And the
reason why I say that men don't don't

532
00:46:45.800 --> 00:46:54.719
have an idea of forgiveness. They
don't have an idea of of oh,

533
00:46:55.599 --> 00:47:00.679
you know, I'll accept you like
this a human. If they don't know

534
00:47:00.719 --> 00:47:02.920
what something is as a species,
we kill it because we ain't gonna deal

535
00:47:02.960 --> 00:47:07.480
with it. We ain't gonna learn
about it, you know. But if

536
00:47:07.519 --> 00:47:12.679
they were another type man, they
would have that same type thinking too.

537
00:47:13.480 --> 00:47:20.719
And the fact that they live off
of natural law, just like the gorillas

538
00:47:20.760 --> 00:47:23.679
and stuff that I watch on TV. Do that tells me that they're a

539
00:47:23.679 --> 00:47:29.079
primate. People say, well,
now it can't be just a primate.

540
00:47:29.679 --> 00:47:35.599
Well, humans are just primates I
mean on a scientific level, we are

541
00:47:35.639 --> 00:47:40.199
a primates. But if you take
a sasquatch, and if you take a

542
00:47:40.280 --> 00:47:45.679
gorilla, and you take an orangutan, and you take a bonnabo, and

543
00:47:45.760 --> 00:47:49.239
you take a billy ape, and
you take a man and you set them

544
00:47:49.280 --> 00:47:53.960
in a circle, all of those
animals live on lands, all right.

545
00:47:54.280 --> 00:48:00.800
One of those animals don't fit because
one of those animals isn't adapted to living

546
00:48:00.840 --> 00:48:07.280
on land. That animal doesn't have
the strength to live without or without having

547
00:48:07.320 --> 00:48:13.079
to manipulate its environment so it can
and don't have the ability to eat raw

548
00:48:13.239 --> 00:48:17.000
food or just getting it and eating
it without having the process it so it's

549
00:48:17.119 --> 00:48:22.679
o body can digest it. And
it doesn't have the ability to stay out

550
00:48:22.719 --> 00:48:30.000
in the weather without having to manipulate
textiles and stuff to survive. And that

551
00:48:30.000 --> 00:48:37.599
that person is man. Okay,
we don't belong. And people say,

552
00:48:37.639 --> 00:48:43.519
well, the government don't want to
talk about de put and sasquatch and all

553
00:48:43.599 --> 00:48:50.079
these things because and they'll fill in
any any reason that is that is convenient

554
00:48:50.159 --> 00:48:54.360
for them. My thinking on that
is the reason why they don't talk about

555
00:48:54.400 --> 00:49:00.559
it is they've got oh if they
look at evolution, oh and they start

556
00:49:00.599 --> 00:49:07.199
with the recess monkey and go up
that chain where modern man is on that

557
00:49:07.320 --> 00:49:10.480
rise of man charge. I think
you take that rise of man chart and

558
00:49:10.559 --> 00:49:15.920
take the modern human output a sasquatch
where he is, that would be the

559
00:49:15.960 --> 00:49:23.280
most evolved terrestrial primate on Earth.
Okay, if and the reason why I

560
00:49:23.280 --> 00:49:28.920
say that, when you look at
the at the evolution of that of the

561
00:49:29.119 --> 00:49:34.920
species, it starts out small and
gets bigger. Well when you get the

562
00:49:35.000 --> 00:49:45.039
Neanderthals and then uh uh they're our
size now, and then that that other

563
00:49:45.079 --> 00:49:49.800
one. Uh trying to think anyway, he was six and a half foot

564
00:49:49.800 --> 00:49:52.960
tall. H we we didn't evolve
from a six and a half foot tall

565
00:49:53.119 --> 00:50:00.000
uh archaic man down to a five
and a half to six foot tall modern

566
00:50:00.239 --> 00:50:05.440
man. That didn't work. So
the natural rise of that would mean it

567
00:50:05.480 --> 00:50:09.679
would be seven and a half day
foot tall primates, which would be sasquatch.

568
00:50:10.119 --> 00:50:14.880
Okay, Well, if you,
if you, if you can sit

569
00:50:14.920 --> 00:50:19.079
down and look at that with the
with a clear mind and the open mind

570
00:50:19.119 --> 00:50:22.239
and say, well, okay,
well where does humans come into this?

571
00:50:22.159 --> 00:50:29.679
All? Right? Every every culture
we've we've got associated with a modern man

572
00:50:29.760 --> 00:50:34.360
says we were created. It didn't
say we above. Every one of them

573
00:50:34.440 --> 00:50:39.119
said God created us in one way
or another. So uh, maybe that

574
00:50:39.320 --> 00:50:45.599
was my Oh maybe that was the
early modern man that didn't understand science's way

575
00:50:45.719 --> 00:50:51.280
of saying, okay, we're not
we're not from here, all right,

576
00:50:51.320 --> 00:50:53.679
Well then where are we from?
That's a whole new can of worms.

577
00:50:53.760 --> 00:50:59.480
You know, if if they just
come out and said, okay, well

578
00:50:59.800 --> 00:51:08.039
we were a genetically engineered animal that
they are. People say that Sasquatch has

579
00:51:08.119 --> 00:51:14.280
their DNA. What if we've got
sasquatches DNA? You know, it's human.

580
00:51:14.599 --> 00:51:19.559
It's human arrogance that says that we
are the top person and they've got

581
00:51:19.559 --> 00:51:23.079
to have our DNA. Well,
uh, what if what they call God

582
00:51:23.199 --> 00:51:32.039
come and see the the possibilities of
what sasquatch and these terrestrial apes could be.

583
00:51:32.519 --> 00:51:37.840
They added DNA to it and they
made they made a modern man.

584
00:51:38.199 --> 00:51:42.639
And maybe you know, and there's
all kinds and there's all kinds of crazy,

585
00:51:43.519 --> 00:51:47.320
crazy theories about the Sumerians and Aninochies
and stuff. I don't know if

586
00:51:47.360 --> 00:51:53.239
I'll go along with all that,
but it's something to think about. Maybe

587
00:51:53.280 --> 00:51:58.960
the reason why they don't want to
acknowledge that is they've got to do.

588
00:51:59.199 --> 00:52:04.960
They've got to save where humans come
from. And that because a human we

589
00:52:05.000 --> 00:52:08.519
are really developed to be a semi
aquatic. Uh. If you look at

590
00:52:08.880 --> 00:52:13.920
at all those other apes I talked
about, Uh, they've got a lot

591
00:52:13.960 --> 00:52:17.000
of hair on their body. Okay, they can't swim good because they have

592
00:52:17.320 --> 00:52:22.880
all kinds of drag off of that
hair. You know, gorillas and apes

593
00:52:22.920 --> 00:52:28.119
and stuff. They don't have fat
deposits like we do to help them float.

594
00:52:28.360 --> 00:52:32.280
They think to the bottom of dram
Uh, we've got less hair follicles

595
00:52:32.320 --> 00:52:37.119
per square inch than even a dolphin
or well hass you know, and they're

596
00:52:37.159 --> 00:52:42.920
aquatic mammals. All right, We've
got we've got a web, finger,

597
00:52:43.440 --> 00:52:49.480
fingers and toes. Apes don't have
that. We've got we've got the dive

598
00:52:49.719 --> 00:52:53.599
in syndrome, just like a well
where if if you swim and you dive

599
00:52:53.679 --> 00:52:59.000
down so far, your your throat
locks up, and you don't you don't

600
00:52:59.480 --> 00:53:01.639
need to until your body runs out
of oxygen. Then you've got to come

601
00:53:01.719 --> 00:53:07.519
up, you know. And well
that's not even talking about the size to

602
00:53:07.639 --> 00:53:15.519
strength ratio. The human body is
not as strong as any other terrestrial apes

603
00:53:15.639 --> 00:53:21.719
body because it's designed to be held
up with some medium water or something like

604
00:53:21.840 --> 00:53:25.159
that. And that's the reason why
we float. That's the reason why we've

605
00:53:25.159 --> 00:53:30.280
got a hooded nose to keep water
out of our nose so we don't inhale

606
00:53:30.320 --> 00:53:34.800
it. You know, there's a
lot of stuff there that and I'm going

607
00:53:34.800 --> 00:53:37.480
out on a tangent, I know, but there's a there's a lot of

608
00:53:37.480 --> 00:53:46.119
stuff there that I look at and
I think about. And if if everybody

609
00:53:47.239 --> 00:53:52.320
just said okay, they're real,
and they said all right, where's people

610
00:53:52.360 --> 00:53:58.400
come from? That would that would
kill civilization? And I say all that

611
00:53:58.480 --> 00:54:02.119
to say that they do. They
do do things like that. You know,

612
00:54:04.760 --> 00:54:07.280
they hit an animal, they catch
it, they ripped its legs off

613
00:54:07.320 --> 00:54:14.880
and eat it before it's dead.
They I sat down there on night just

614
00:54:14.960 --> 00:54:21.039
trace and watched eleven Sisquatch or One
Night or Kill three Deer, and it

615
00:54:21.199 --> 00:54:27.199
was like something out of out of
Nature or documentary or something. I thought,

616
00:54:27.199 --> 00:54:31.000
Wow, there's no way. But
you know, there's stuff like that

617
00:54:31.000 --> 00:54:39.039
that I don't know why it's not
filmed in America because it's happening there.

618
00:54:39.119 --> 00:54:42.679
I mean, I wasn't looking for
it. I just happened to be down

619
00:54:42.679 --> 00:54:45.480
there in a place where it was
quiet, and there was a there was

620
00:54:45.519 --> 00:54:47.719
a campground that nobody goes to on
the Trace, and I pulled down there

621
00:54:47.840 --> 00:54:52.320
just to see if I could hear
anything. And that was something that just

622
00:54:52.360 --> 00:54:59.760
happened that night, And because I
was interested in it, I wasn't afraid.

623
00:55:00.119 --> 00:55:01.000
Until I got back home. I
thought, well, it's a good

624
00:55:01.000 --> 00:55:04.519
thing else near didn't show up.
Well, I was the only other thing

625
00:55:04.599 --> 00:55:10.239
there. Now, I'm not the
most familiar with the geography in that area.

626
00:55:10.280 --> 00:55:15.920
So that is in Mississippi as well. Yes, right, there's a

627
00:55:16.039 --> 00:55:24.800
there's a Natchez Trace runs from Natchez, Mississippi north to Nashville, Tennessee.

628
00:55:25.440 --> 00:55:30.480
At one time that was the only
trade route, and at one time there

629
00:55:30.519 --> 00:55:35.800
was a northern route and a southern
route that that were divided though. But

630
00:55:36.679 --> 00:55:40.840
yeah, Natchez Trace, that is
a national park now that you can drive

631
00:55:40.960 --> 00:55:45.920
down and you can stop and they've
got different markers and stuff that tells places

632
00:55:46.519 --> 00:55:51.599
where things in history happened, and
you can go and eat there, you

633
00:55:51.639 --> 00:55:54.719
can walk around. It's got horse
trails and nature trails and stuff like that.

634
00:55:55.199 --> 00:56:00.920
And I was at a campground that's
ours. I know, I'm the

635
00:56:00.960 --> 00:56:02.880
only one that's been down there.
In the last five years, and I've

636
00:56:02.920 --> 00:56:07.360
taken my boys down there and let
them let them when they were younger listen

637
00:56:07.440 --> 00:56:14.480
to the Sasquatch holler in the back
of the truck, and that was just

638
00:56:14.559 --> 00:56:22.280
one of my old places I went
and listened. And the ones that you

639
00:56:22.400 --> 00:56:28.119
saw tear that that deer apart.
Do you think they're probably more adults than

640
00:56:28.400 --> 00:56:32.400
or juveniles. Yeah, I think
they were adults. They caught it.

641
00:56:32.480 --> 00:56:37.960
Here. Here's what happened. I
was parked facing the trace and there was

642
00:56:37.000 --> 00:56:43.599
this, I guess about a six
acre clear and there was there was trees

643
00:56:43.920 --> 00:56:45.679
lined up the trace, and then
there was that clearing, and then the

644
00:56:45.800 --> 00:56:51.639
road that goes to the campground comes
the backside that clearing, and then you

645
00:56:51.719 --> 00:56:54.880
go to campground. Last park over
there over my truck towards the road,

646
00:56:55.519 --> 00:56:59.599
and I have my windows down.
It was it was in December, and

647
00:56:59.639 --> 00:57:06.519
that was kind of cool. But
I was listening and there wasn't any sounds

648
00:57:06.559 --> 00:57:10.480
any worse or you could get hear
nothing. And I was there about thirty

649
00:57:10.559 --> 00:57:16.760
minutes and I heard something coming through
the woods and I looked. I looked

650
00:57:16.760 --> 00:57:21.760
over in time to see three doors
run out of the trees. To the

651
00:57:21.800 --> 00:57:25.280
south and one was going so fast
looking back it actually run into the back

652
00:57:25.559 --> 00:57:30.920
or bumping of my truck. And
the other two went around and they went

653
00:57:30.039 --> 00:57:35.519
to went in that opening. Well, when they went out in the opening,

654
00:57:35.840 --> 00:57:39.159
they turned to go to the west
towards Natchez or the east, going

655
00:57:39.280 --> 00:57:46.480
towards Snatch's trace, and two sasquatch
come out come out in the open there

656
00:57:47.239 --> 00:57:52.159
in the tree lined out about four
or five yards enough for them to stand

657
00:57:52.159 --> 00:57:57.039
down. They were obvious to the
deer, so the deer stopped there and

658
00:57:57.039 --> 00:58:00.719
they cut down to the west,
going towards the river, and there was

659
00:58:00.800 --> 00:58:06.320
three that come out of the campground
over there. Uh. Well, when

660
00:58:07.039 --> 00:58:12.079
when they saw them, they cut
to the north and at the very end

661
00:58:12.239 --> 00:58:15.679
of the the tree line up there
at the end, there was two that

662
00:58:15.840 --> 00:58:22.760
come out there. And uh when
they come out, the deers just basically

663
00:58:22.880 --> 00:58:27.920
started circling around. And I heard
something coming in the woods and there was

664
00:58:28.480 --> 00:58:30.639
four of them come through the woods
that like they'd been the ones that were

665
00:58:30.679 --> 00:58:36.599
pushing the deer, and they come
around. They didn't even act like my

666
00:58:36.719 --> 00:58:38.760
truck was there. They didn't they
couldn't tear the less if as I are

667
00:58:38.880 --> 00:58:45.199
not, and they come out through
there and they started they started jumping at

668
00:58:45.239 --> 00:58:52.480
those deers and growling and hollering,
and the deers they get scared. And

669
00:58:52.480 --> 00:58:55.440
they had run one way, and
they'd let them run enough that while they

670
00:58:55.480 --> 00:59:01.239
were running one way, the ones
behind them were walking up closing in the

671
00:59:01.280 --> 00:59:05.480
gap, and the other ones ahead
would holler at them, and they had

672
00:59:05.519 --> 00:59:08.159
turned ninety degrees and run another way, and then they would come up and

673
00:59:08.199 --> 00:59:13.800
they were just they were just closing
it in on them. Well, when

674
00:59:13.840 --> 00:59:20.079
they got to a word that they
couldn't get get away, and it wasn't

675
00:59:20.119 --> 00:59:23.760
a small space that that happened.
You would you would think they would huddle

676
00:59:23.760 --> 00:59:27.719
them in until they could all touch
each other, but that wasn't how they

677
00:59:27.760 --> 00:59:32.599
worked. They got they were probably
fifteen twenty yards from each other, but

678
00:59:32.679 --> 00:59:37.039
they were around these deers. And
then this one come out of the tree

679
00:59:37.280 --> 00:59:44.400
and bust it through the line just
like it was a hog dog hitting a

680
00:59:44.800 --> 00:59:51.840
hog on the when it was made
up by dogs. And it hit the

681
00:59:52.039 --> 00:59:55.519
deer on the right side and knocked
it down just like it tackled it and

682
00:59:55.599 --> 01:00:00.239
reached over and grabbed his head and
popped down and around and when he did

683
01:00:00.280 --> 01:00:07.519
that, the other ones just piled
in on these other two deer. We'll

684
01:00:07.519 --> 01:00:15.760
be back with more Bigfoot society after
these words from our sponsors. And it

685
01:00:15.880 --> 01:00:22.639
was it was a gory sound of
bones popping. You could hear a couple

686
01:00:22.639 --> 01:00:25.079
of bleats out of the deer,
but that didn't last long. And you

687
01:00:25.159 --> 01:00:30.519
heard deer popping, you heard skin
ripping, and you heard them growling.

688
01:00:30.559 --> 01:00:36.559
It sounds it sounded like that gum
Ryan sating there eating. I mean,

689
01:00:36.599 --> 01:00:40.039
there was growling. There wasn't any
fighting over the food. The big one

690
01:00:40.079 --> 01:00:46.079
when he when he killed his,
he ripped off a back leg and he

691
01:00:46.239 --> 01:00:51.639
handed it to a smaller one.
And by smaller, I say six and

692
01:00:51.639 --> 01:00:54.719
a half feet tall, probably he
might not being quite that big, but

693
01:00:55.039 --> 01:00:58.719
or I don't even know if it's
a mail or not. But he killed

694
01:00:58.760 --> 01:01:02.159
his, and he tore his up
and handed his out. And then the

695
01:01:02.199 --> 01:01:08.159
others that had killed those other deer
took their peace and shared that deer around

696
01:01:09.000 --> 01:01:15.000
and they eat off of three deer. And it was completely gone with them,

697
01:01:15.159 --> 01:01:22.519
probably from start to finish, probably
forty five minutes from the time they

698
01:01:22.599 --> 01:01:27.760
ringed them up coming out of the
woods until they they tore them apart and

699
01:01:27.800 --> 01:01:32.280
sit there and eat them. And
then they just they just walked off like

700
01:01:32.360 --> 01:01:37.920
it was every day on Sunday meeting
and they just went by business. You

701
01:01:37.960 --> 01:01:45.679
know. It's like I wasn't even
there. That is absolutely incredible. So

702
01:01:45.920 --> 01:01:51.159
you're saying that the whole time,
it was about forty five minutes and you

703
01:01:51.719 --> 01:01:55.000
were there present for like the whole
thing. Yes, I sat in my

704
01:01:55.079 --> 01:02:00.440
truck, aren't nowhere else getting them. I had my windows down and I

705
01:02:00.480 --> 01:02:05.000
was hoping that they wouldn't notice my
windows down with us. When that when

706
01:02:05.079 --> 01:02:07.159
them four come out of the woods, though, three of them went in

707
01:02:07.199 --> 01:02:10.480
front of my truck and one went
behind me, and it was just like

708
01:02:10.519 --> 01:02:15.599
they were going around rock. It
was. They didn't look in my windshield.

709
01:02:15.960 --> 01:02:20.280
They were focused on those teers they
were. They didn't care that I

710
01:02:20.400 --> 01:02:23.119
was there. I wasn't making any
noise, I wasn't moving around. I

711
01:02:23.239 --> 01:02:29.400
wasn't disturbing their hunts, and they
didn't care that I was there. That's

712
01:02:29.440 --> 01:02:34.320
the thing. I was insignificant in
their world at that time. And when

713
01:02:34.360 --> 01:02:37.519
they ate, they didn't look over
to see if Joe was still watching them.

714
01:02:37.679 --> 01:02:45.440
They care less. Oh, they
moved right on right on their business.

715
01:02:45.480 --> 01:02:49.960
Wherever they went. They headed out
north, and that's the last time

716
01:02:50.000 --> 01:02:54.480
I saw them that night. That
is that's that's wild, Joe. Did

717
01:02:54.480 --> 01:03:00.639
the adult ones look like chimps as
well? Or did they look a little

718
01:03:00.159 --> 01:03:08.639
different than how the juveniles will look. The adults looked like chimps, Yes,

719
01:03:08.719 --> 01:03:14.840
but they looked more thick as far
as you know. The difference in

720
01:03:14.880 --> 01:03:22.119
seeing a gangly teenager and an adult
male human, all right, that that

721
01:03:22.280 --> 01:03:25.000
is a good comparison to You could
tell they were the same animal. They

722
01:03:25.000 --> 01:03:30.599
were the same sex, but the
maturity was there. Uh. They didn't

723
01:03:30.639 --> 01:03:35.159
look like bodybuilders, so they looked
like big of course. So it's sort

724
01:03:35.159 --> 01:03:40.639
of like the uh Caesar on the
Planet of the Apes when he stood up

725
01:03:40.800 --> 01:03:45.440
and you could tell, you know, he was a he was a adult

726
01:03:45.480 --> 01:03:50.320
male. I kind of wonder after
watching The Planet of the Apes if somebody

727
01:03:50.320 --> 01:03:53.599
didn't know how Sasquatch acts when they
did that movie, because there was a

728
01:03:53.599 --> 01:04:00.519
lot of similarities and how they acted
with what I've seen, uh in my

729
01:04:00.679 --> 01:04:05.119
experiences. Now I'm looking at a
map, and I believe I'm looking at

730
01:04:05.159 --> 01:04:11.400
the right Natchez Trace State Park and
Forest in Mississippi. You go north,

731
01:04:12.079 --> 01:04:15.760
it almost if you were to go
north, you'd almost get into Kentucky Lake,

732
01:04:15.840 --> 01:04:19.960
which would also get into land between
the lakes, which is right.

733
01:04:20.000 --> 01:04:26.039
Do you think could be a connection? Oh, what's sure? I think

734
01:04:26.039 --> 01:04:30.840
there's always that possibility here. When
you look at Natchez Trace, you come

735
01:04:30.960 --> 01:04:39.159
through Carbert County, Alabama, and
you head into Tishmingo County, Mississippi.

736
01:04:39.840 --> 01:04:45.440
Right there on that border, on
that state line is is Barri Creek Campground.

737
01:04:45.480 --> 01:04:49.679
That's where I'm talking about. That
was but all up down natchs Trace.

738
01:04:50.119 --> 01:04:55.840
When I when I first moved back
up here after Hurricane Rita, and

739
01:04:55.920 --> 01:04:59.280
I started going looking for me places
to see if they were up here too.

740
01:04:59.719 --> 01:05:03.920
It was like it was like I
was in a school for for hunting

741
01:05:04.239 --> 01:05:08.199
sasquatch. Just like, man,
they've got to be everywhere. I've got

742
01:05:08.199 --> 01:05:11.159
to be crazy, but I've got
to figure out which one it is,

743
01:05:11.199 --> 01:05:15.199
because there there's signs all over the
place, especially after the trees fall and

744
01:05:15.360 --> 01:05:20.239
you get to looking through the woods
and you can you can see like tree

745
01:05:20.280 --> 01:05:27.280
structures and stuff that's there, and
those are boundary markers. I was.

746
01:05:27.400 --> 01:05:34.599
I was over there down the road
a little bit from from Bar Creek Campgrounds.

747
01:05:34.639 --> 01:05:40.000
There right across the state line in
Mississippi. There's an Indian man right

748
01:05:40.039 --> 01:05:44.039
there, and you can stand on
top of that Indian man and look up

749
01:05:44.079 --> 01:05:46.639
down Bear Creek in the winter time
when there ain't no trees and look around.

750
01:05:47.199 --> 01:05:50.400
I was sitting over there. There's
a nursery down there too, by

751
01:05:50.400 --> 01:05:57.119
the way, I wouldn't suggest going
around there, oh, if you're just

752
01:05:57.239 --> 01:06:00.480
curious, because you get they get
aggressive dinner. But I was watching for

753
01:06:01.159 --> 01:06:08.199
some sasquatch to come out of the
east. On the east over about ten

754
01:06:08.239 --> 01:06:15.880
miles from that place is Freedom Hills
Wildlife Management Area in Carbrick County, and

755
01:06:15.639 --> 01:06:20.039
they're pretty aggressive over in there.
Anyway, I was watching for some maybe

756
01:06:20.039 --> 01:06:24.920
to come out there, and I
heard something behind me, and there was

757
01:06:25.000 --> 01:06:30.280
one crawling up along the tree line
coming around, and he got pissed off

758
01:06:30.280 --> 01:06:32.519
because I called him watching me because
I heard him. And I walked over

759
01:06:32.639 --> 01:06:39.119
to the other side, and he
was a good nine foot tall. I

760
01:06:39.159 --> 01:06:44.559
guess, o, thick thick fellow. You couldn't his head was so big

761
01:06:44.599 --> 01:06:46.639
you couldn't put a five gallon bucket
down on it, if that makes sense.

762
01:06:47.639 --> 01:06:53.719
And he sat there and watched me
and and I think a lot of

763
01:06:53.719 --> 01:06:58.880
times they watched to see if,
if how you act, to determine how

764
01:06:58.920 --> 01:07:03.559
they react. Never right like I'm
scared. My My personality is if I'm

765
01:07:03.639 --> 01:07:10.760
curious or should be afraid, I'm
gonna be seeing what I can see because

766
01:07:11.239 --> 01:07:16.840
my curiosity beats beats out my fear. And I admit that I take chances

767
01:07:16.880 --> 01:07:23.639
that I would. I wouldn't suggest
anybody else to just because I know what

768
01:07:23.679 --> 01:07:27.119
I can deal with then, and
don't don't say, well, Joe sat

769
01:07:27.159 --> 01:07:30.360
here and did this, so I'm
gonna do that now. Joe sat there

770
01:07:30.400 --> 01:07:34.159
and did that because he had the
experience to know when it's time get out

771
01:07:34.199 --> 01:07:38.159
there. There have been times when
I've seen one and I'm like, oh,

772
01:07:38.239 --> 01:07:42.199
I'm gone, and I talked to
him and and walk on ei there.

773
01:07:42.920 --> 01:07:47.239
But you know that that's you gotta
know what you do and there's no

774
01:07:47.519 --> 01:07:50.599
there's no checklist you go down and
say, well, if it does this,

775
01:07:50.719 --> 01:07:54.199
I can do this and be okay, well I better not do that.

776
01:07:54.920 --> 01:07:59.880
So you're dealing with something wild for
sure, Joe. I know,

777
01:08:00.159 --> 01:08:03.360
last time we talked, I believe
you'd said that you haven't been over you

778
01:08:03.400 --> 01:08:06.320
go all over the place, but
you hadn't gone over to Oklahoma yet.

779
01:08:06.360 --> 01:08:11.239
It is that still the case where
you know you have yet to make it

780
01:08:11.280 --> 01:08:17.479
over there over to where Oklahoma.
Uh No, I haven't got to go

781
01:08:17.560 --> 01:08:23.600
to Oklahoma yet. But I went
to a Missouri last weekend to uh to

782
01:08:23.880 --> 01:08:28.159
a Mark Twain National Law Forest over
there. Oh yeah, I went over

783
01:08:28.199 --> 01:08:31.199
in. I went over and looked
at some things, uh, and I

784
01:08:31.239 --> 01:08:36.520
didn't I didn't see too much sasquatch
stuff. I actually put up a camp

785
01:08:36.640 --> 01:08:43.439
around a tree structure that I'm not
I'm not absolutely sure that a sasquatch made

786
01:08:43.520 --> 01:08:47.239
it, as opposed to maybe a
hunter made a blind. But uh,

787
01:08:47.520 --> 01:08:50.960
sasquatch ain't the only thing in the
woods you got to worry about. Oh,

788
01:08:51.399 --> 01:08:56.199
like we I left that over there
because somebody is shooting through my camp.

789
01:08:56.359 --> 01:09:00.439
Call three or four times, and
I hollered and didn't They didn't send

790
01:09:00.439 --> 01:09:03.039
the tear pis over or not.
So I packed up and left. But

791
01:09:04.239 --> 01:09:09.079
you know, I'd rather run into
a sasquatch in the woods as another human

792
01:09:09.119 --> 01:09:13.880
because of sasquatch BOMs there. If
you in the woods at eleven twelve o'clock

793
01:09:13.880 --> 01:09:16.920
at night, and you come across
another human or a group of humans.

794
01:09:17.159 --> 01:09:23.479
Oh, you don't know why they're
there? Oh? Absolutely, I agree.

795
01:09:23.479 --> 01:09:29.640
You know, finding a human in
the woods is can be a lot

796
01:09:29.720 --> 01:09:34.359
scarier than a sasquatch. So Mark
Twain from where you're well, let's say

797
01:09:34.399 --> 01:09:40.119
Mark Twain from Mississippi. That's quite
a hall is that. It was a

798
01:09:41.159 --> 01:09:45.319
four hours It was four hours from
here? Oh one way. Yeah.

799
01:09:45.439 --> 01:09:50.600
Oh, there's a little town called
Donathan, Missouri up there. My son's

800
01:09:50.920 --> 01:09:55.119
got a girlfriend up there and he
wanted to go see her for a birthday.

801
01:09:55.600 --> 01:09:57.840
And I thought, well, while
you do that, I'm going to

802
01:09:57.960 --> 01:10:00.760
go up here and look around.
And I have up and the guy up

803
01:10:00.800 --> 01:10:08.119
there on the first day of Antler
List deer gun season. So I got

804
01:10:08.199 --> 01:10:12.880
up there and I checked in at
the National Forest or the game warden,

805
01:10:12.960 --> 01:10:17.640
let him know what that's gonna be
and everything. And he told me what

806
01:10:17.880 --> 01:10:23.039
nobody else gonna be around there unless
there was some day hunters, and they

807
01:10:23.479 --> 01:10:30.119
stay away from the designated campgrounds.
So I set up a primitive camp.

808
01:10:30.199 --> 01:10:33.680
I went. I went down to
the end of the road down there where

809
01:10:33.720 --> 01:10:38.600
I was, there was a turnaround. I put my I put my camp

810
01:10:38.600 --> 01:10:42.319
in the middle of that turnaround.
It wasn't it wasn't an established camp,

811
01:10:43.479 --> 01:10:45.439
but the game boarding told me if
I found a place I liked on the

812
01:10:45.479 --> 01:10:50.279
side of the road, since where
I was going was in a area that

813
01:10:50.359 --> 01:10:55.840
hunters generally don't go in. He
said, listen, this is the first

814
01:10:55.920 --> 01:10:59.399
day of deer season. If you're
just camping, I normally I tell you

815
01:10:59.399 --> 01:11:01.800
to be careful, he said,
But people don't go in that part of

816
01:11:01.239 --> 01:11:06.600
the of the forest. He said. You probably won't see maybe one or

817
01:11:06.640 --> 01:11:12.079
two people, and they'll be locals
just looking around for deer spots. Maybe.

818
01:11:12.399 --> 01:11:16.159
So I went over and I set
up, and you know that those

819
01:11:16.199 --> 01:11:20.920
woods were quiet the whole time when
I got there. Tell you a little

820
01:11:20.960 --> 01:11:25.560
bit of what I do. I
set up my camp and I got or

821
01:11:25.680 --> 01:11:30.800
I got out there, and I
walked out out in the woods past my

822
01:11:30.920 --> 01:11:35.199
camp towards the river down there where
it was a little bit and I just

823
01:11:35.239 --> 01:11:40.760
said, listen, I've had a
rough week this week. I'm tired.

824
01:11:41.279 --> 01:11:45.159
I come out here because y'all got
a beautiful place that's quiet, and I'm

825
01:11:45.199 --> 01:11:53.880
out here to uh to settle down
and just enjoy y'all's y'all's house. If

826
01:11:53.960 --> 01:11:56.920
y'all don't want me here, just
let me know and I'll leave. I

827
01:11:56.960 --> 01:11:59.600
mean, I'm fine with that.
But I'm just out here. I'm not

828
01:12:00.039 --> 01:12:02.079
I don't care about deer hunting.
I'm not out here making mess. And

829
01:12:02.520 --> 01:12:06.920
I even when I when I got
through talking, I went around. I

830
01:12:06.920 --> 01:12:11.199
picked up garbage and burnett while I
was there to kind of clean it up.

831
01:12:11.640 --> 01:12:15.800
And I didn't have any problems out
that. I heard some some walking

832
01:12:15.880 --> 01:12:24.239
around the camp area inside or inside
the tree line. Now where I was,

833
01:12:24.359 --> 01:12:28.000
you come in from the west,
but it was on top of a

834
01:12:28.079 --> 01:12:33.039
hill that had about a sixty degree
incline from the bottom to the top.

835
01:12:33.359 --> 01:12:38.960
And whatever walked around was walking up
hill, but it would go to the

836
01:12:39.039 --> 01:12:42.159
road and it turned around and to
walk all the way back around to the

837
01:12:42.199 --> 01:12:45.279
other side of the road. And
it did that two or three times looking

838
01:12:45.279 --> 01:12:49.560
around. And I heard it about
ten thirty at night, and there's no

839
01:12:49.720 --> 01:13:00.039
flashlights out there, no motors running
there was There wasn't anybody. When I

840
01:13:00.079 --> 01:13:02.880
hollered after see if anybody was there, nobody at the camp. So I

841
01:13:02.920 --> 01:13:09.239
said, well, anybody that's out
there walking like this, it's not a

842
01:13:09.279 --> 01:13:13.800
person so oh, I just stayed
around the campfire. I didn't cook once

843
01:13:13.840 --> 01:13:16.359
at the camp, and while I
was gone, I wouldn't eat. I

844
01:13:16.359 --> 01:13:20.439
wouldn't eat out because I tried to
put as little food in the camp if

845
01:13:20.439 --> 01:13:27.119
I'm looking for Sashquatch as possible.
And there are black bears up there,

846
01:13:27.439 --> 01:13:31.880
and I didn't want to deal with
that either. But so I cooked two

847
01:13:31.960 --> 01:13:36.199
meals there and that was just the
early in the days, so i'd have

848
01:13:36.279 --> 01:13:41.560
them something deep. But my main
meals, I just go into town and

849
01:13:41.600 --> 01:13:46.439
eat to keep from having anything.
And that saved one having garbage and stuff.

850
01:13:46.479 --> 01:13:49.840
So there's stuff like that that I've
learned over the years not to do.

851
01:13:51.000 --> 01:13:55.960
I don't try to camp real close
to a waterway, even though I

852
01:13:56.039 --> 01:13:59.159
was within line of side from the
top of the hill. The waterway was

853
01:13:59.199 --> 01:14:03.960
a good I guess a mile and
a half down through the trees down there.

854
01:14:04.119 --> 01:14:09.760
You know, I was unelevated land, so I could sit down through

855
01:14:09.800 --> 01:14:13.600
there and see it. But I
don't. I don't get real close like

856
01:14:13.640 --> 01:14:16.600
that. I always try to make
sure that I've got a good place that

857
01:14:17.279 --> 01:14:20.520
if anybody's gonna come at me,
they only come at me from one or

858
01:14:20.520 --> 01:14:27.079
two to directions at the same time. And so you know, a lot

859
01:14:27.119 --> 01:14:30.520
of that is just a good woodcraft. It ain't got nothing to do with

860
01:14:30.600 --> 01:14:33.640
sashquatch. It's just what you learn
in the woods. And I've been in

861
01:14:33.720 --> 01:14:38.119
the woods enough. I grew up
in it. Deddy was a great hunter

862
01:14:38.239 --> 01:14:44.680
gatherer h and he taught me.
He taught me what I know uptil I

863
01:14:44.720 --> 01:14:48.800
got grown, and then I taught
myself to other stuff. But you know,

864
01:14:48.840 --> 01:14:51.119
you got to know what you're doing. And if they see that you're

865
01:14:51.199 --> 01:14:57.720
competent and that you're you're not there
to disturb things and rock the boat,

866
01:14:57.720 --> 01:15:00.560
as they say, most of the
time, you won't even know their observatory.

867
01:15:01.479 --> 01:15:05.399
We'll be back with more Bigfoot Society
after these words from our sponsors.

868
01:15:10.760 --> 01:15:15.279
Mmmm, why wise words? For
sure, I'm going to have to keep

869
01:15:15.399 --> 01:15:18.720
Mark Twain on my radar because that's
kind of more up near my area too,

870
01:15:19.079 --> 01:15:24.239
more or less. But Joe,
I got I got one final question

871
01:15:24.319 --> 01:15:27.479
for you, and it's been a
pleasure chatting with you again, and thank

872
01:15:27.520 --> 01:15:31.119
you. But something I'm going to
be asking. I'm going to be asking

873
01:15:31.119 --> 01:15:34.960
this from here on out, just
because I'm this is kind of a out

874
01:15:35.000 --> 01:15:43.399
of left field one. But have
you ever run into reports of people seeing

875
01:15:43.800 --> 01:15:49.800
or experiencing what they say looks like
a hyaena? The hyena, the hyaena?

876
01:15:54.560 --> 01:15:58.000
No, I haven't. I haven't
heard anything like that. Oh I

877
01:15:58.039 --> 01:16:02.920
think we talked about it the last
time. Only thing that I have run

878
01:16:03.000 --> 01:16:12.079
into is people talk about dog man
and I don't. I've never seen one.

879
01:16:12.560 --> 01:16:18.960
But what I have seen is a
big bipedal animal that looks like a

880
01:16:19.000 --> 01:16:24.319
baboon, And a lot of people
say that dougways. A lot of people

881
01:16:24.359 --> 01:16:27.800
say that's gug waste. But when
you look at a gugway, the nose

882
01:16:27.960 --> 01:16:30.760
looks almost like a bear on their
pictures, That's not what I see.

883
01:16:30.880 --> 01:16:38.760
What I seen looked like a giant
baboon. No tail, but he was

884
01:16:39.479 --> 01:16:42.960
his neck and head with solid white, and it looked like somebody took a

885
01:16:43.039 --> 01:16:48.840
giant marky and drew him a big
black eyebrows is ca nines were about three

886
01:16:48.960 --> 01:16:55.079
and a half inches long on the
top of his of his muzzle, and

887
01:16:55.199 --> 01:16:58.760
the bottom ones were about an inch
inch and a half shorter. And the

888
01:16:58.800 --> 01:17:01.520
way I know how big they were
as I saw one yawn at me when

889
01:17:01.560 --> 01:17:05.279
I was getting up on it.
So I walked up. I was coming

890
01:17:05.319 --> 01:17:10.800
out of the woods. I've been
bowl hunting and i'd come out of the

891
01:17:10.800 --> 01:17:13.720
woods, so it was it was
after dark, It's like eight thirty.

892
01:17:13.760 --> 01:17:17.039
I set up a way after there
because I went to sleep, and so

893
01:17:17.079 --> 01:17:20.680
I was coming out and I heard
something moving, and I've got a light

894
01:17:21.199 --> 01:17:30.079
that's a that's nine and ninety nine
lumins or nine nine thousand lumins. So

895
01:17:30.119 --> 01:17:34.199
when I lighted up, it makes
everything look like a daytime, and you

896
01:17:34.239 --> 01:17:40.119
can adjust the beam to be real
bright down to it makes a little low

897
01:17:40.920 --> 01:17:45.479
square. And I heard something more
in the woods, and I was walking

898
01:17:45.840 --> 01:17:47.520
down the road, so I popped
that on and shined up there, and

899
01:17:47.560 --> 01:17:51.560
it was it was one of these
animals. The belly was white too,

900
01:17:51.600 --> 01:17:56.920
but everything else was white. And
he was sating there, eating a handful

901
01:17:57.000 --> 01:18:00.600
of green or pine neals, and
it was holding it and chewing on it

902
01:18:00.720 --> 01:18:05.039
or on the side, just like
you see bugs bunny chewing on a or

903
01:18:05.159 --> 01:18:11.239
on a carrot on the cartoons.
And I sat there and he was looking

904
01:18:11.279 --> 01:18:14.960
around, didn't care if Izira got
the light on him. Nothing did pay

905
01:18:14.960 --> 01:18:16.800
attention to me. Case I started
walking up on him, and I got

906
01:18:16.800 --> 01:18:23.439
about forty five feet from him,
and he rolled his lip up like like

907
01:18:23.520 --> 01:18:28.359
a baboon do us And I stopped
there a little bit, and he looked

908
01:18:28.399 --> 01:18:30.800
at me and look down, look
up at me, ro his lip,

909
01:18:30.920 --> 01:18:33.600
looked down and looked to the side. So then he kept on eating.

910
01:18:33.640 --> 01:18:38.239
So I took another step or two
up, and then he he yawned real

911
01:18:38.359 --> 01:18:45.720
loud at me and huffed, and
I knew then they wasn't board. He

912
01:18:45.800 --> 01:18:47.760
was nervous, and so I stopped. I said, okay, look,

913
01:18:48.479 --> 01:18:51.399
I'm watching you, but I'm going
to back off. So I backed off

914
01:18:51.439 --> 01:18:57.239
another ten fifteen feet backwards and still
held the light on him. He didn't

915
01:18:57.239 --> 01:19:00.359
care. I was sitting there watching
him for nothing. And I sat there

916
01:19:00.359 --> 01:19:02.239
and watched him for about thirty minutes. They got up and walked off on

917
01:19:02.359 --> 01:19:06.159
all fours, just like a baboon, and went down towards the river.

918
01:19:06.520 --> 01:19:11.479
And when I made sure he wasn't
going the way I was going, I

919
01:19:11.560 --> 01:19:16.840
cut back. He was going north
east and I headed south of the southwest

920
01:19:16.880 --> 01:19:19.880
stretch. I just gonna make sure
he wasn't going to run up on me

921
01:19:20.039 --> 01:19:26.079
whenever I turned that light off.
So after he got gone, he didn't

922
01:19:26.119 --> 01:19:29.760
like he cared if I knew he
was there or not, So I went.

923
01:19:30.800 --> 01:19:34.399
I went and talked to game Warden
the next week after that down there

924
01:19:34.880 --> 01:19:38.840
and I seen him and I just
pulled up. I said, hey,

925
01:19:38.880 --> 01:19:41.399
you know, I want to ask
you a question. He said, sure,

926
01:19:41.520 --> 01:19:46.319
go ahead. I said, are
there any large mammals besides black bears

927
01:19:46.319 --> 01:19:50.760
and cougar down here that I can't
shoot? And he sat there and told

928
01:19:50.800 --> 01:19:55.279
him, and he said, besides
black barn cooger. She said mammals.

929
01:19:55.359 --> 01:20:00.079
Now he said, I said,
okay, So that told me that there

930
01:20:00.159 --> 01:20:05.199
something there. There could be something
bigger than you know, like alligators or

931
01:20:05.239 --> 01:20:10.239
something down there, because he's specified
in mammals, so he thought said mammals

932
01:20:10.239 --> 01:20:12.359
no. So I said, all
right, thank you. So I turned

933
01:20:12.359 --> 01:20:15.039
around, walked up. I got
about ten steps from him, and he

934
01:20:15.079 --> 01:20:17.079
hollered at me and said, hey, come here, And I said what.

935
01:20:17.640 --> 01:20:19.399
He said, why did you ask
me that question? I said,

936
01:20:19.399 --> 01:20:21.560
I, oh, no reason.
I said, you wouldn't believe me if

937
01:20:21.600 --> 01:20:26.800
I told you anyway. I said, so I don't want to. I

938
01:20:26.840 --> 01:20:29.760
don't want you think I'm crazy.
He said no, no, he said,

939
01:20:29.800 --> 01:20:31.840
just tell me why you think that. And so I sat there and

940
01:20:31.880 --> 01:20:34.760
I told him about what I seen
and the men sitting there watching him.

941
01:20:34.960 --> 01:20:38.439
He said, hey, will you
come up here to the office and show

942
01:20:38.479 --> 01:20:41.399
me on the map where you saw
him at. I said sure, so

943
01:20:41.840 --> 01:20:45.079
this so I found out this,
so Game Morden is an income and a

944
01:20:45.159 --> 01:20:50.520
biologist up here. The guy who
who was retiring was still in the process

945
01:20:50.520 --> 01:20:54.680
of retiring, so he'd been there
thirty or something years, and he was

946
01:20:54.720 --> 01:20:58.960
at the office up there. So
he walked in and after I followed him

947
01:20:58.960 --> 01:21:01.760
apartment, we got at his office
and we walked in there where there's a

948
01:21:01.760 --> 01:21:05.560
big old map of it, and
he called that other guy in there and

949
01:21:05.680 --> 01:21:13.520
he told him, said I want
you to I want you to hear this

950
01:21:13.760 --> 01:21:17.760
what we're talking about. And he
asked me or to tell the guy what

951
01:21:17.880 --> 01:21:21.680
I saw again, describe him and
everything. And I told him what I

952
01:21:21.720 --> 01:21:27.600
saw and he he said, well, where'd you see it? Out on

953
01:21:27.640 --> 01:21:33.079
the mountain? I pointed on the
mountain I showed him, and oh,

954
01:21:33.159 --> 01:21:36.199
that game more than told the new
one told us. Was said, that's

955
01:21:36.199 --> 01:21:40.960
where I saw those tracks at around
through that. I said, yeah,

956
01:21:40.960 --> 01:21:45.920
there's tracks up through there. Now. I said, uh, I'm coming

957
01:21:45.920 --> 01:21:48.800
back tomorrow and probably see if I
can figure out where it comes from.

958
01:21:50.159 --> 01:21:56.479
And he said, well, let's
let's look at let's look at doing that

959
01:21:56.640 --> 01:21:59.439
sometime, if you don't mind me
going with you. I said, I

960
01:21:59.439 --> 01:22:04.399
don't mind. You know, that's
free country whatever, and so I showed

961
01:22:04.479 --> 01:22:09.039
him and he asked the He asked
the guy that was retiring. He said,

962
01:22:09.039 --> 01:22:13.119
do you know anything about this?
And he said, off the on

963
01:22:13.159 --> 01:22:15.199
the record, I don't know anything, he said, but just us sitting

964
01:22:15.239 --> 01:22:18.760
here bs and off the record,
he said, I've seen the I seen

965
01:22:18.840 --> 01:22:23.840
the tracks, but I ain't never
seen that and more makes them and so

966
01:22:24.239 --> 01:22:28.279
uh, we went. Make a
long story short, about a week and

967
01:22:28.319 --> 01:22:34.520
a half later, we went and
we're looking around up through there for deer.

968
01:22:34.640 --> 01:22:40.279
I did, was looking for deer
along that road, and he happened

969
01:22:40.319 --> 01:22:45.159
to come through and we stopped and
talked a little walk and he's like,

970
01:22:45.239 --> 01:22:47.479
we ain't far from where you saw
those tracks. Like, no, let's

971
01:22:47.479 --> 01:22:50.960
go for everyone and see. And
so we went up there and I took

972
01:22:51.039 --> 01:22:55.000
pictures of the tracks. So I
had my bowl with me, and I

973
01:22:55.079 --> 01:22:59.239
put my arrow down in my bowl
down and took pictures of a couple of

974
01:22:59.279 --> 01:23:02.319
the tracks. And I think one
that when I put water bottle down,

975
01:23:02.359 --> 01:23:10.359
so he gets size of it.
But we we tracked that foot or trail

976
01:23:10.800 --> 01:23:15.119
for a mile and about a mile
and a quarter and it disappears. I

977
01:23:15.159 --> 01:23:18.239
don't know if it jumped up on
a tree and swung around or what,

978
01:23:18.439 --> 01:23:23.359
but we couldn't it was it went
into a thicket and we couldn't. We

979
01:23:23.399 --> 01:23:30.960
couldn't find any uh under or undergrowth
or broke down or any trip or leaves

980
01:23:30.000 --> 01:23:34.159
messed up or anything. So I
don't know where it went from there,

981
01:23:34.520 --> 01:23:41.119
but I do know that about four
weeks later that whole area was tiled up

982
01:23:41.239 --> 01:23:47.439
made into a feeding plot. Really. Oh wow, that's that's really interesting.

983
01:23:47.680 --> 01:23:51.760
Is I'm sure you can't share specifics
about the location, but is there

984
01:23:53.000 --> 01:23:59.520
like maybe county area or anything you
can share about. Yeah, it's a

985
01:23:59.560 --> 01:24:05.359
public o loft management area seven thousand
acres. When I first started, when

986
01:24:05.399 --> 01:24:11.680
I first moved down to Mississippi,
I always hunted on private property. I

987
01:24:11.680 --> 01:24:15.119
got down here and I didn't have
any private property to hunt on, so

988
01:24:15.239 --> 01:24:23.520
I found the wildlife Management area and
I went in and talked with a guy

989
01:24:23.640 --> 01:24:28.800
that was working down there at the
time, that was putting out food plots

990
01:24:28.800 --> 01:24:32.119
and stuff. And he said,
listen, if you bowl hunt down here,

991
01:24:32.319 --> 01:24:38.520
you've got seven thousand acres to yourself
in this part of the management area.

992
01:24:38.560 --> 01:24:41.159
I said, why, he said, won't nobody go in there?

993
01:24:41.279 --> 01:24:44.159
He said, it's creepy. He
said, I work down here, and

994
01:24:44.199 --> 01:24:48.760
I make my I make my food
plots and stuff down here, he said,

995
01:24:48.760 --> 01:24:53.399
But I don't stay around here after
two or three in the afternoon because

996
01:24:53.600 --> 01:24:57.600
it creeps me out all day so
much that I can't stand in any of

997
01:24:57.600 --> 01:25:00.279
this area. He said. The
rest of the park, the rest of

998
01:25:00.319 --> 01:25:02.239
the management area ain't like that.
He said, it's this area. I

999
01:25:02.239 --> 01:25:09.479
said, that's probably because that's that's
something in there. But my thinking,

1000
01:25:09.960 --> 01:25:12.920
I told him, was so that's
where I want to be, because that

1001
01:25:13.039 --> 01:25:15.880
means all the big bucks run in
here, hiding from all the other hunters,

1002
01:25:16.199 --> 01:25:19.239
and that's where I want to be. And that's what what I went.

1003
01:25:19.399 --> 01:25:24.760
I went looking in through there.
I wouldn't even I wasn't even looking

1004
01:25:24.880 --> 01:25:30.279
for sasquatch when I run across them
down there, I was looking for big

1005
01:25:30.319 --> 01:25:34.199
deer. Uh huh. Can can
you share what wildlife management area that is?

1006
01:25:38.239 --> 01:25:41.600
Oh? It's in the divide.
Oh, that's that's what it's called

1007
01:25:41.600 --> 01:25:54.000
the Divide Wildlife Management Area in Tishmingo
County. Very interesting. That was a

1008
01:25:54.119 --> 01:25:58.439
very interesting story at the end.
I know you'd kind of shared that the

1009
01:25:58.439 --> 01:26:03.239
first time, but there is deaf
only some interesting details in it this time

1010
01:26:03.279 --> 01:26:09.039
as well. So listeners, if
you know anything about the Divide Wildlife Management

1011
01:26:09.079 --> 01:26:14.760
Area in tish Mingo County, Mississippi. Right, you're right, they on

1012
01:26:14.880 --> 01:26:17.600
the east side. Put it on
the east side of the Bee, right,

1013
01:26:17.640 --> 01:26:21.680
don't go on the west side.
Okay, east side of the creek.

1014
01:26:24.520 --> 01:26:30.000
Oh, it's a Tom Bigbee Waterway
Tennessee Tom Bigbee Waterway with connects the

1015
01:26:30.000 --> 01:26:35.760
Tennessee River to the tom big Bee
River. It's uh, it's it's a

1016
01:26:35.760 --> 01:26:44.159
a large channel that goes down there, this man made uh. But yeah,

1017
01:26:44.199 --> 01:26:47.319
it's it's probably a quarter mile wide. I don't know how deep it

1018
01:26:47.439 --> 01:26:54.279
is. Ain't there swimming, but
it's largest go from the Tennessee River to

1019
01:26:54.319 --> 01:26:59.119
the tom Bigbee River through the ten
Tom there. You'd probably say it on

1020
01:26:59.159 --> 01:27:03.079
the map if you're looking in on
my out. Sure it's in Tishmingo County.

1021
01:27:03.079 --> 01:27:11.439
It runs across Highway seventy two around
Burns Toby Old, Mississippi, just

1022
01:27:11.560 --> 01:27:15.199
east of Burnsfield. Well, there
you go. Listeners. If you've experienced

1023
01:27:15.239 --> 01:27:21.079
anything weird in there, definitely let
me know or put it in the comments

1024
01:27:21.199 --> 01:27:27.199
so people can share. But Joe, it's always a pleasure to chat with

1025
01:27:27.239 --> 01:27:31.840
you. You've had some wild things
happen, and thank you so much for

1026
01:27:32.359 --> 01:27:35.840
hanging out. I'm sure there's some
new listeners this time that are like,

1027
01:27:36.479 --> 01:27:40.359
you know, I've got something weird
happening at my house. How do I

1028
01:27:40.359 --> 01:27:45.479
get in touch with Joe? Well, send you a comment or holler at

1029
01:27:45.479 --> 01:27:54.000
you. I'm on Facebook. Joseph
Nathaniel Flippo. There's no secret people that

1030
01:27:54.600 --> 01:27:58.000
people around here at know know me, know what I do. Well,

1031
01:27:58.560 --> 01:28:01.000
you know, there's a lot of
people that say I'm an expert, but

1032
01:28:01.079 --> 01:28:05.800
I just I've got real life experience. I don't set around and look at

1033
01:28:06.319 --> 01:28:11.960
sasquatch through a screen and think about
anything. And there's a lot of people

1034
01:28:11.960 --> 01:28:17.399
who claim to be experts that they're
not experts. They're experts in their own

1035
01:28:17.479 --> 01:28:20.880
mind. But if you get chased
out of the woods, you don't know

1036
01:28:20.920 --> 01:28:28.560
what you're doing your harass and wildlife
m man wild stuff. Well, thank

1037
01:28:28.560 --> 01:28:31.359
you so much for hanging out today, Joe, and I appreciate you coming

1038
01:28:31.359 --> 01:28:36.319
on. You're welcome. Yeah,
I've been doing this for a while.

1039
01:28:36.439 --> 01:28:40.880
Like I said, I told you, I talk for days about this because

1040
01:28:40.880 --> 01:28:44.199
this is my gem. That's stuff
that I know. And it amazes me

1041
01:28:44.279 --> 01:28:49.119
that people don't know about this stuff
because I started out as a skeptic and

1042
01:28:49.239 --> 01:28:55.840
I didn't even till I saw one
and I had the admit, look,

1043
01:28:56.399 --> 01:28:59.159
I saw it, it's got to
be there. That's when I started looking

1044
01:28:59.159 --> 01:29:04.479
and things started licking. But you
know, I haven't learned anything that anybody

1045
01:29:04.479 --> 01:29:10.399
else that takes the time can't learn. Knowing what to look for sometimes is

1046
01:29:10.840 --> 01:29:15.079
just as important as knowing what to
not look for. And you've got to

1047
01:29:15.119 --> 01:29:20.399
be able to look and say,
if a man can make this, ninety

1048
01:29:20.560 --> 01:29:26.920
percent of time, he probably did. But if you got an old tree

1049
01:29:27.000 --> 01:29:30.760
that's got a fifteen sixteen inch base
that's upside down jammed in the ground,

1050
01:29:30.800 --> 01:29:35.239
a man didn't do it unless there's
a bunch of tractor prints all around it,

1051
01:29:35.279 --> 01:29:39.800
and they'll be there while. But
you know, if it's not just

1052
01:29:39.920 --> 01:29:44.439
obvious that a man couldn't do it, I always give the benefit of adapt

1053
01:29:44.439 --> 01:29:47.880
to humans because humans are in the
woods a lot, a lot that other

1054
01:29:47.920 --> 01:29:50.680
people don't realize. You know,
you're not the only ones that's in the

1055
01:29:50.680 --> 01:29:56.279
woods, and you've got to be
careful too. I had a couple of

1056
01:29:56.319 --> 01:30:00.039
experts getting mad at me one time
and kicking me out of their group because

1057
01:30:00.079 --> 01:30:02.680
I asked them, uh, you
know, when they're in the woods,

1058
01:30:02.680 --> 01:30:08.159
how do they know that when they're
hollering in something answering that it's not another

1059
01:30:08.399 --> 01:30:13.520
uh uh expert to hollering back at
them. And they didn't seem to like

1060
01:30:13.600 --> 01:30:15.640
that too well. But you know, you got to you got to be

1061
01:30:15.720 --> 01:30:21.960
able to to know what the real
thing is by knowing what the fakes are.

1062
01:30:24.119 --> 01:30:28.119
Absolutely, you got to be okay
with people asking questions. You know,

1063
01:30:28.279 --> 01:30:30.600
that's a that's a big red flag
if you're not so well. I

1064
01:30:30.640 --> 01:30:36.399
know there's there's people that at make
comments say that you know, I'm a

1065
01:30:36.479 --> 01:30:41.479
fraud or whatever or I I don't
lie. I say, look, just

1066
01:30:41.479 --> 01:30:45.279
come into woods with me. I
don't ever charge anybody for anything out there

1067
01:30:45.319 --> 01:30:48.000
if they ask when they need help, I know how it is. I've

1068
01:30:48.000 --> 01:30:51.960
been there. I've been on both
sides of it, So I say,

1069
01:30:53.039 --> 01:30:56.560
listen, I'll come down and look
whatever word that you know, depends on

1070
01:30:56.640 --> 01:31:00.359
where it is, and uh oh, how I I'm able to get there

1071
01:31:00.960 --> 01:31:05.359
because of my schedule. But this
time of year is pretty it's pretty picked

1072
01:31:05.439 --> 01:31:10.479
up, and I do stuff.
I was actually on the internet, uh

1073
01:31:10.520 --> 01:31:17.760
today, looking up some information about
a place down there in Fernando de Soto

1074
01:31:17.960 --> 01:31:21.720
or National Park down here in South
Mississippi. They got some stuff going on

1075
01:31:21.840 --> 01:31:28.239
down there that's interested. But yeah, I enjoyed talking with you. Dale.

1076
01:31:28.319 --> 01:31:30.880
Feel free to holler at me if
you need, if you need to

1077
01:31:30.920 --> 01:31:34.119
ask a question or whatever. If
I know the answer, I'll tell you.

1078
01:31:34.359 --> 01:31:38.920
If I've not had any experience with
it, I don't have a problem

1079
01:31:38.960 --> 01:31:43.239
saying I don't know, but we'll
figure it out. Appreciate that. You

1080
01:31:43.279 --> 01:31:47.840
know. That's so you know that's
that's goes for a lot of different things,

1081
01:31:47.840 --> 01:31:50.439
and you can keep them out of
the yard. People say you can't.

1082
01:31:50.720 --> 01:31:55.199
There's ways to do that, but
that's a different show all in itself.

1083
01:31:55.399 --> 01:32:00.000
Absolutely, Well, Joe, thank
you, sir. Oh you're welcome.

1084
01:32:00.159 --> 01:32:05.560
Well, you have a good day, and hope y'all will have a

1085
01:32:05.840 --> 01:32:10.960
good rest of the moment. Well, it's holiday season coming up. So

1086
01:32:11.359 --> 01:32:15.560
we listen. Listen for all that
family member that don't mind tell you the

1087
01:32:15.600 --> 01:32:18.439
crazy stuff because they just might be
rapped. Oh I love it. That's

1088
01:32:18.520 --> 01:32:21.159
good advice. That's good advice.
Well, all right, I'll be in

1089
01:32:21.199 --> 01:32:26.760
touch with you, Joe. All
right, so good talking to you.

1090
01:32:26.760 --> 01:32:30.960
You're at big for Society. Art
goal is to provide a platform for those

1091
01:32:30.079 --> 01:32:35.560
that have encountered Bigfoot to share their
encounter and a safe and respected environment.

1092
01:32:36.159 --> 01:32:41.399
But we need to hear your story. If you've experienced something that you just

1093
01:32:41.520 --> 01:32:47.279
can't explain, please send me an
email at Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com.

1094
01:32:47.880 --> 01:32:51.840
Then we can start the conversation.
I know a lot of you have

1095
01:32:51.920 --> 01:32:58.960
not shared your encounter at all.
It's been twenty years and it's time that

1096
01:32:59.039 --> 01:33:02.159
you get this off your and then
you can get some well deserved for rest,

1097
01:33:02.279 --> 01:33:06.640
because I know you haven't been sleeping. I understand what you're going through,

1098
01:33:06.920 --> 01:33:09.960
and I appreciate every one of you
listening