I Woke Up to the Howling! | Michigan

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0:59 Matt. How's it going many? Hey good? Thanks for having me back. Absolutely well, dude, I feel like we've got a lot of ground to cover. So I'm gonna go ahead and make sure you have the time that you need. So I'm gonna go ahead pass things over to you and feel free to share what you've been experiencing. All right, awesome. Yeah, I was on your podcast a year more ago on episode three oh seven, and I kind of like this to talk about where things have gone from there. I had the screaming match with the Bigfoot with the day Watcher, and then I guess we'll start with that, So so I'll start with the story where it ended. So it started, I was kayaking and then I wanted to try I just got a kayak from a buddy, so I just got dropped off and just hit the river with my camping gear. And then I was all beat up by the end of the day, so I hit a sandbar, a little sandbar, and decided to set up camp. And then because I was exhausted it was almost dark. I didn't really have an option, so I had to set camp in this location. And then this is in the Portyard on State Game Area.

2:27 I was going along the Black River to give the location, and so I set camp and then I went I needed to go. There was like a hill and I wanted to go up the bank and get firewood or whatever, so I parked a kayak and then as soon as I parked it, I heard a footstop and a tree break, a branch break. I'm like, I'm like, oh man, they're here. I'm like, well, I don't have a choice. I got to stay because it's almost dark. I'm on a kayak. I don't know where I am, and I don't know. If I took off, I didn't know where i'd end up.

3:08 So so I ended up setting up camp, and then I went up to get some firewood for the night, and it was all bringing nettle plants. It was insane. It was terrible. I couldn't even walk through it. I ended up getting like two little tree limbs. And then by then my legs and my arms were so itchy. I jump. I jumped back off the bank, out of the sandbar, threw the sticks down, and then jumped in the river and started wiping my legs and stuff off because everything was so itchy. So then everything went good.

3:49 I had a little fire, I made dinner, I went to bed. I was exhausted, and then eleven thirty I woke up to the howling to just some long drawn out howls, not like screams, and then and then it howl, and then it pausing and howl. So when it howled, it had done it like three times. And then I started to get annoyed. So I woke up and I was like, every time it howled, I'd go hey. And then it got a little louder, and then I've done it like three times, and then it just it just let loose and screamed at me, and then it shot over.

4:35 I'm trying to get up and get my shoes on, and then it straight across the river. It screamed at me again, and I was I was mad so then and then I almost had my shoes on it. It screamed so loud I couldn't even move. It was insane. And it ended up screaming like literally right on top of my tent. So I got my shoes on, I got the door open, and I was ready for him to be standing right in front of me. So when I got out of the tent, I looked up and there was nothing there. I couldn't believe it. And then and then I just screamed to shut up as loud as I could and everything was silent. It was total silence.

5:18 I didn't hear him take off. I didn't see no tracks in front of the tent. It was wild. So then I got a little bit of my composure. I stood over and got my fire going. I walked over to the fire and got it going good, and just sat there and tried to process it for like half an hour, and then I ended up going back to bed, And then the next morning I packed up and got out of there, and then after that, after that, I actually ended up feeling bad because I spent like twenty years studying these guys and I'm like, man, they can avoid me so easily. So I felt bad. I'm like, they're gonna avoid me now. I this ain't going to be good. So then I went back out there, and then as soon as I got out there, I went off the trail and then I started hearing these stick braks like five times. I'm like, it was a dead giveaway he's over there. So then well, usually there's a connection, you can feel it, you can feel him in the area, and I wasn't getting that connection. So then I walked up and then he wasn't there. He was gone, Like I couldn't find any evidence nothing. So then I scouted around and found that spot he screamed at me, and I found that I actually found the exact spot where

6:49 he stopped, and it was a perfect vantage point of looking at me. There was a tree limb right the way blocking him, so he could see through the tree limb, but it would be basically possible to see him because it was all shaded. So I left an apple there. I left, I left like three apples. So I left, came back the next day, and then the apples were still there. But I ended up. I ended up. I could feel him. I could feel him, so I tried. I started talking to him. I'm like, this has been a long time. This is like like around twenty years.

7:29 I've never seen you, guys. I'm like, this is this is crazy. I should be able to see you by now. And then so then I ended up that was just for another day thing. So I ended up going back home, and then I went out there again for a camping trip and I was walking down the trail and I seen something black walking beside me. He was kind of hunched over and walking. He was walking. There was a dead tree between us, so he was like hunched over, kind of staying down with the limbs. I could see his arms swinging, and then he walked off, and I'm like, man, I'm thinking this might be an accident or something. So so i kept walking down the trail, and like two minutes later, I'd seen a guy walking up with the with the pistol. So I'm like, all right. He he reared off to go around and he was I think he was keeping track of this guy with the pistol because I know they don't like guns. And then, uh so I'm like all right. So so i go down there to the camping spot. I'm like, man, this might get good tonight. So then I get an audio recorder and then I get that going and it goes all night and nothing happens. Then ended up going for over eight hours, and then I turn it off and I'm sitting on this little creek bank and then I'm just

9:00 there in my chair. I made a little table. I'm drinking my coffee, and I seemed like a flash of something. It was really fast, it was dark, and it was I like it was weird. It was so fast, and then my mind like took a picture of it and you could see you could see like like the back butt cheek and like the side of the leg and then and then like the bottom half of its of its hip. Because what happened was it looked like he jumped out of the way for me seeing him, and I'm like, man, that's that's crazy. So then I stay sitting there and then I'm looking and then he he ends up just standing there looking at me, right about thirty yards from me when I'm sitting in a chair, and he's he's all black. His face it's like a smooth gray co and he was probably around ten foot tall, and he had a real pronounced brow ridge where like everything where his eyes were it was just totally dark, like he couldn't see no white or anything. And then we made eye contact for for probably two minutes, and then I started looking away and looking back, and he stayed there, and he stayed there for about three to five minutes just looking at me, and then and then

10:34 he eventually left and then I started, uh, I had to go, so I started packing up my stuff, and then, yeah, I could definitely feel his presence. I think he was watching me pack up my stuff. I think they're really interested with the tents. I think the material or something. I don't know what it is, but yeah, that was that was really cool and that was freaking awesome. And then after that, let me breading my notes right here.

11:19 And then I've been talking to Shikhara Tasha. I talked to her a couple of times. She was I remember her on her podcast. She's very interesting. We had a lot of good conversations about stuff. And then and then I had the Brian Sawyer from Bigfoots of Michigan get a hold of me because he heard my episode on the podcast. So then I ended up going out there with him. And then it was awesome. As as soon as we got there, we were sat in camp up he forgot something in his car, so then I walked over.

12:05 I had to I had to pee. I was going to pee off the bank because we were right side of the river. And then there was a bank and we were camping on top of it. And when I went over to Pea, there were there were tracks everywhere. It was awesome. There were barefoot tracks. There was different types too, so like some of them had short toes, some of them had long toes. It was freaking awesome. There was it was three or four different individuals that the left tracks. They looked like juveniles. That was that was awesome, And then it's what's happening is it's going to get kind of weird. But what it is is the only reason I started sharing stuff was because when I was at work, they sent me a vision when I was at work, and it was it was like two realities at the same time, and they sent me a vision of me sharing my story and and watching it on my phone was a vision. It was wild, And that's really that's really the only reason I started sharing to begin with was h that's pretty much what they wanted, because I spent a lot of time gifting them and stuff and they don't they don't really want it.

13:26 They don't they don't need gifts, So I'm like, what do you guys want? And then they ended up sending me the visions and stuff, and then they sent me they wanted to meet Brian. So that's the only reason I took him out there too, because they're real picky about who goes out there, and they'll start smashing trees over and doing crazy stuff if you make it mad. So so when I got their permission, then when they basically told me that they wanted me to do that. It kind of went from there and then we went out there and it was a good time. And then what happened with him was so so I know they usually come around at night time, and then when me and him were out there, I ended up I ended up going to bed because I know they. I know they always come around when I go to bed. And then so I went to bed. And then that's when he had all his all his encounters like they because now what's happening is the tree knocks. They'll start instead of doing tree knocks aways away, they'll do a tree knock like one hundred and fifty feet from me, and they're they're freaking loud, but but yeah, I'm I'm okay, well I'm getting used to that. And then I just turned to him and tell him, don't be afraid or whatever.

14:58 I'm hoping they'll come sit by the fire like it's the ultimate goal at that I want to touch one. It was coming up on hunting season, and I was wondering how they're going to react to that, because I know they're whereabouts their their main areas year round. So October third, I went out there. It was. It was on a Thursday, and then I didn't get camp set up till late because I worked that day or part of the day, and then I ended up going out there. I didn't get camp set up till like nine thirty, and this one, this got kind of wild, so nine thirty and then, uh, it was weird. And then it was like a mile and a half and I was by myself. I had a bow and bear spray, and then I got all my firewood stuff and I was sitting by the fire.

15:56 Big for Society will be right back after these messages. And man, it was like the woods came alive that night. It was. It was crazy, and it's I notice a lot of times the woods don't get real active on the full moons. It's always it always seems to be off set the full moons. So everybody that thinks going out there during a full moon helps, I don't. I don't think it does. I've never had anything real crazy happen during the full moons. I think they like move I think the darker the better for them. But anyways, I was out there, so nine thirty, ten o'clock, I sat down and in the woods just like came alive and it happened once in a while, and so the raccoons they started fighting. They were fighting by my tent, and then the coyotes were howling, the owls did Canadian geese were going and then and then I started hearing the bigfoot howls, like I think it was a Sierra sons or something where they're long, drawn out calls, so they're like yelling. And then there was like three different ones,

17:29 and then, uh, yeah, it was crazy. I'm like, man, that's cool. And then and then the next one I heard was like from the same spot, was like a dog howl, a loud, kind of deep dog howl. You knew it wasn't a dog, like a regular dog or a wolf or something. And then I was like, holy crap, this is crazy. So so what I did. I let out a whoop, and then I walked over and did allowed tree knock, and then I sat down and they got quiet, and then I started hearing footsteps and then there were these three different something coming walking straight at me.

18:15 There was three of them and they were each making short calls to each other, not real loud. I don't know what to call men or anything. And then they walked up and then they got about one hundred and fifty feet for me, i'd say one hundred and fifty feet, and then they got quiet and then they well on their way up, they ended up knocking a tree over. I heard a tree start snapping and popping and fall over, and then it was freaky. And then yeah, they got ended up getting close to me, and there were there were dead falls blocking the light of the campfire where they were like criss crossing, so they were able to get close without getting in a light. And I think I think that's why they ended up getting so close, because most of the light was blocked from the fire.

19:11 And then they just stood there and I was just looking at the fire because I didn't know what to say to him. And then I looked, I looked up. I couldn't see anything. And then they stood there for probably two three minutes, and they just turned around and walked off. And then I heard another one behind me, so I think they surrounded me like they usually did. The one behind me was talking. He was like he was he seemed like he was just going by. He wasn't interested, he was he was on a mission to do something else. But yeah, that was. That was the last experience. That's how I ended the year twenty twenty four was with that one. But yeah, that's that's pretty much where it's at. It's been getting more and more wild.

20:07 What month in twenty twenty four was that? That? That happened October third, on Thursday night. It was late, it was. It ended up going on so it was like Friday morning. It was like two three in the morning when when they started hollowing and yelling the dog howl. That's the first time I ever heard that. I think I think they might have been mimicking the dog man, because I'm thinking these guys might haunt them. Is it normal to hear things like a Canadian goose that late at night?

20:48 There? No, I think I think they were haunting them. The Canadian geese kept me up all night, and I know these guys aren't flying twenty four hours a day. I think they were hunting them along the river. I was also wondering if it's a thing where maybe it was there's some mimicking going on, But from what you heard, did it sound like it was a legitimate, uh Canadian goose? Oh? Yeah, I mean there was like hundreds of them.

21:29 It was insane. I've never heard so many geese in my life because after all that stuff happened, the geese were just going nuts. I think they were hunting the geese all night. I mean, it makes sense if you have. A impromptu, huge food source out of nowhere, because they're probably just flying through right. Yeah, and they're they're bending in the river and stuff in these little pockets. I think they ambush them. Yeah, they got to be because I know they're seasonal hunters because I know in the fish and spots they come in. They come in when certain times a year when the fish come in the shallows looking for food. They'll wait on the side of the river and grab the fish.

22:16 So they got it. They're based on the seasons. And then they'll get the clams. They'll eat the vegetation based on the seasons, the berries. It's all. They're all. They just work with nature. They got it down to a science. Absolutely everything you've shared tonight has it all been in this port here on area. It's my main spot. Like this, this is the hardest group I've ever dealt with. I've dealt with like two or three other groups, but this group has just outsmart me in ways that it just blew my mind. They're always ahead of me. I can never outs. These are the ones I walked through the portal too when I was young, like these, this is when everything started. And I think I think that the uh, the one I seen that looked like an Indian, I think he was the one. He was the one that touched my tent when when he was young, when I first started interacting with them. I think he was the young one at the time, and now he's he's a day watcher. But yeah, have you got any questions? Go ahead?

23:39 Absolutely. Have you heard of other people experiencing things similar to this in that same support here on area? Oh yeah, there's multiple witnesses. There's guys. They like to run hunters and campers out of there now the last like three years and then I've found I started finding abandoned campsites in my area where people like left everything, like there were pillows and sleeping bags and chairs and tents like still set up. I think people are starting to go out there for a good time and they're realizing they're not out there alone. I've heard of hunters.

24:25 They've they've surrounded hunters and escorted them out and I know a camp or they escorted them out. You know, it's interesting. I fall along with maps during interviews so I can get a better view of what's going on. It says that this particular game area on Google Maps at least is currently temporarily closed, which is kind of interesting. Yeah, people still go there, Okay, gotcha? Yeah, like people, there's locals that hike the trail every day. They take their dogs and stuff. We had you had on then my last episode, that one guy that lived there.

25:14 He said he said he didn't believe they were there, but then he had he got surrounded by owls calls all around him at his house. Yeah. So, and I mean people are saying they're not here. My kids camp outside all summer, but they're there for sure. Absolutely, Yeah, they're no, they're no threat to people. He just they got their areas. They want to be left alone. Have you ever had any conversations with I don't know what you would have out there? Are they whoever's in charge of that game area? Are there forestry workers or is it uh DNR or who would be working that area.

26:05 I've seen one DNR officer in twenty years, over twenty years. Yeah, I think they avoid their areas. I think they already know where they're at and they avoid them. And this is about six thousand acres. It looks like, yeah, that's big goodness. Yeah, it's just it's narrow, so you can you can just follow the river and just keep going. But you can't really get lost because then you just walk away from the river and you'll hit a road, there'll be houses.

26:49 Well, that's the thing I mean it is it would be as long as you're okay once you get to a road. I mean, it could be impossible to get lost in there. Yeah. Yeah, that's the good part. It's good too because it kind of condenses them, like like we're not like up in Canada where there's thousands of miles. Matt going off of how you currently feel, how would you classify the kind of bigfoot that you have in here? Do you feel like it's more of a like a something that's more like an ape type creature or some sort of you know, human type offshoot, or do you have any thoughts about that?

27:35 It looks like an evolved giant human. A naturally evolved giant human is the best way I can explain it, because it looked just like a person, only with dark nocturnal eyes. And when you say that's that's really interesting. I've never had I don't think I've ever had person say it like that before. When you say nocturne eyes, what do you mean by that? They were just big dark eyes. There were no I didn't see no pupils. Okay, okay, okay, So the eye was there was no whites to the eyes. Is that what you also mean? Yeah, yeah, yep, yep, that checks they were.

28:20 It was black, but there was no there was no evil feel They made me. They made me feel comfortable. And then the crazy I forgot about this part. But when he was standing there looking at me, off behind him, like thirty yards there were there were two bald eagles and three vultures flying in circles. They were and the eagles were pecking at the vultures. I think they were feeding. I think I think the group was feeding back there, and then the day watchers were set a perimeter around them.

29:00 And that's that's the main reason I laughed, because well, basically, they made me feel comfortable and I didn't want him throwing me a chunk of meat or something. That's what I felt I felt like they were gonna throw me a chunk of whatever they were eating. It'll be interesting to hear if other listeners can also say, yeah, this this area had stuff happen in it. That's usually what will happen. People will jump in. But man, especially if it's got six thousand acres, you would think that there'd be some other people listening to this that that could also chime in.

29:46 It was Jim Ingram from He's got his own episode on Bigfoots of Michigan. He talked about it because he was at that spot. Okay, yeah, I got to reach out to that that Bigfoot of Michigan guy. Sounds like he He also had some interesting things happened after he went to bed that one night. So see if he wants, oh we share his account. Yeah he's yeah, he's uh, he's got an episode out of that with me. With me, I took him all over the place. It was. It was a rough couple of days. We covered a lot of ground, but uh oh kay was awesome.

30:31 So there's so there's actually it's like a like a video document or anything on YouTube. Yeah, yeah, there's an episode on a video. I took him out in the woods. We went all over. I showed him the tree structures and we got He put some of the tracks on there on the episode tree breaks, all kinds of stuff. Big for Society will be right back after these messages.

31:14 It was a good episode. Yeah, So you can go on there. You can see the tracks, you can see the tree structures, the tree breaks. I'll have that linked in the show notes for this so people can check out your Your episode of Bigfoot is Bigfoot of Michigan? Is that? Yeah? Yeah, okay, yeah, definitely. When so you mentioned that you have heard what sounds like sierra sounds in that area as well. Yeah, I've heard all kinds of crazy stuff. Yeah, yells, creams now, now dog howls. So that's new. But I was thinking from the beginning, I was thinking that's why they surround me. I think they surround me because because they're worried about a threat and I'm not really a threat.

32:11 I think that they're surrounding me thinking I might be something else, like a dog man or something. Are there are there dog man reports from that area as well? I know Michigan's pretty famous for that. I know there used to be, but I mean, I'll be honest with you, I don't think dog man's got a chance if he's out there, because these guys work in groups, and from what I've seen, I don't think a dog man wouldn't have a chance. I think he'd avoid the areas. I think if he was there, he's not there now. Yeah, I mean, I've heard there are you know, people are aware of laying between the lakes, but there are some areas in the US where there's almost you know, a group, a bigfoot group of dog man and they kind of live in a similar area. They have a boundary line, et cetera. Have you heard anything like that around the Port Huron area or maybe just in the past you may have had some there.

33:20 I heard I heard there was a dog man guy from the past, because everybody was saying, oh, he's the dog man guy. But but I'd never even heard of him, so I don't know anything about him. I'd like to know if somebody knows his name, if I could get his name in research that okay, And I found no evidence of a dog man out there. I did. I was at a bigfoot conference though, when somebody was telling me they were up by like grailing or something. He said it was you see, it was the size of little moose. And I had like ten inch tracks. He said, they got the heck out of there, and that was dog man. You're saying, yeah, yeah, he said that, because that's the first thing. I was like, how big are these tracks? He's like ten inch a ten inch dog track?

34:12 That's crazy. Have you's big recently experienced anything that could be attributed to infrasound in that area? Oh yeah, they've They've hit me multiple times. They hit me. Not this winter. This winter, I didn't go out outside, take a break, give them a break. But then last winter I went out. I seen, I see I think the alpha of it. He was ginormous. I locked eyes with him. My son was with me. When I locked eyes with him, there was something off to my left that ran off, but I couldn't. I didn't take my eyes off the one I was looking at. He said, he's seen, he's seen the one that was running off off.

35:01 And then I locked into the big guy and then he was all black and he had like a barrel chest and then he hit me hard like I knew where I was and I was still disoriented, and I felt real sick. It's it sucks when you get hit with him for found, it can mess you up for days. It's such a weird thing because it affects different people different ways, right, And it sounds like from what I'm getting from you, you're affected of being disoriented, nausea, yeahs chest pain, Oh, chest pain? Oh boy, Yeah that's not good.

35:44 Yeah yeah, I get Yeah, I get chest pain from it. It sucks, similar to like heart palpitations or actual like pain in your chest. Like pain like I don't know, like I don't know if it's a ratic heartbeats because I've never had a heart attack or stroke or nothing. I don't know the feeling, but I know it sucks. Whatever's going on. It doesn't feel good. Yeah, some scary stuff. I'll be honest. When I seen the Indian looking one, I had like shortness of breath and stuff, and I ended up going to the hospital and they ran all kinds of tests. They put me on an EKG and they could have said, we can't find what's wrong with you, we're gonna they just sent me home.

36:38 Has infrasound ever resulted in you being unable to move or like a feel like you're paralyzed type sort of thing. No, that's never happened. But then, like because when I seen it though, it wasn't it wasn't a negative experience. It didn't even feel like I got hit with them for sound. But like I think, I think there at such a higher vibration than us. I think too, it's a lot, honest just being in their physical presence, it's overwhelming because we can't we can't match that frequency where they gotta. I think they come down well enough so we can see them in their physical form and then.

37:29 And then when we see them, it's a lot honest. Yeah, that's interesting because you know, there are some individuals I talked to where they say, yeah, you know that the whole goal is to you know, raise your frequency so that you can be on the same level. But yeah, that that's say. A very interesting interpretation as well, them having to come down a little lower in order for you to to see that. I'm wonder if that explains how some individuals can see some can't, especially during the same experience. I've talked to someone about that before, you know.

38:14 Yeah, and I think, well, this might piss a lot of people off, but I think they're they're above us, and they're I think they have a better understanding of God than we do. I think there's like us them and then God's above them. Like I think they're evolved to somewhere higher than us, and we haven't reached that level. I think they got a better understanding because like the portal stuff and everything, they can open and close them. I mean, I've had them run by me cloaked. I've had different ones run by me cloaked. I've had ones run by me where I couldn't see them at all and they weren't leaving tracks and they could push tree limbs out of the way. And I've had other ones when they run by me, they're like they're like predator, but it's not blotchy. It's it's like all a solid like distort of the light being bent or distorted or whatever's going on, so like you can actually see a figure passing by. It's like a distortion. It's it's wild because he'll do that. He'll like he'll let me want to let me see him, and then when he runs to get away, you can see like a distortion. So so they can run off wherever they want, and you like can barely sell them. You can't even see when they run off.

39:46 When you see that distortion running by, how close approximately are they They're. Usually like probably like twenty yards. What I've had, I'm completely cloaked. Run by me like three feet. I can feel the wind from I had. That's what I happened up in Newberry when I was bear hunting. He ran like rape by me. I was wondering. So if they run by me again, my plan is to put my arm out see if I can touch them, if they ever get that close, because I don't know if they're like translucent when they do that, or if they're bending light or I don't know what's going on, or if they're in like another dimension. I don't know. It's weird stuff.

40:42 So that's interesting. I mean, just to think out loud to hear if you were to put out your arm and one's running by, that would at the very least break your arm and you wait, right, I don't know if that's worth it. Maybe a football helmet. Yeah, I don't know, but I mean anything for science, I guess. But yeah, oh man. When you have one running that close to you, what are the giveaways that you've got something going past you.

41:28 You could feel their presence, you can feel it. I could feel the wind and all the tree limbs were moving above my head and like he like had a path when he ran by, and he was pushing the limbs out of the way the whole time, like ten feet in the air, like he was whipping them out of the way. It was not they weren't small limbs because he was so tall. And then after he ran by, he stopped and he made a ninety agree turned to the left and I could see like a shadow, dark shadow outline of him, and then he took off.

42:11 When you've got something like that happening, can you actually hear the sound of movement as well? Yeah, yeah, And you can hear like the wind the wish, like the wind of something going by. And then the tree limbs were washing and it was it was nuts. Noise of uh walking and leaves at all anything like that. No, there were no footprints. That was the crazy part. When he ran by, I was, yeah, I seen the tree lens moving. And then right when I seen the tree lens moving, I looked down to look for the footprints, and I couldn't see no feet, no feet hitting the ground.

42:55 But then when he turned, I could see his outlined. It's like it moved like a shadow. And then he turned and then he ran the other direction. You know, it's stuff like that that really makes you wonder, especially when you hear other things like you know, I only saw one footprint and it disappeared in a field, or it looked like it was gliding as it moved across, and it makes man. But then you also have solid trackways where you can see the footprints and saw do they have different ways of moving or maybe there's different types that can move different ways.

43:37 It's just like, well, the biggest thing with that is, yeah, I've been seeing these for years is videos or the trackways, and then a lot of people they don't talk about it the trackway ending. They just try and avoid it, but they'll get so many comments on it that they end up like telling you. But you would see if they were jumping in trees, you would see the distortion in the track. They leave perfectly placed tracks. They're not. It's like a person walking and running. The track's totally different. And if something eight hundred pounds was jumping twenty feet in the air, it would leave an impression. It wouldn't just be a generic track like it was walking forward and then it just stopped. I think people really need to take that into account. I mean, this is a hard puzzle to put together, but I think it's starting to come together more and more the more I'm listening to the podcast, it's getting good, Like everything's starting to come out finally.

44:39 Oh dude, it is so guys getting wild. I agree with you, man, Yeah. Guys like me can talk finally. They've been waiting for people to catch up because you couldn't tell them before. Absolutely. Yeah, it is an interesting time because you have people that are willing to listen and people that are getting you know, the the encounters out. You've got you know, this show and just so many others across across all over the place, not just on YouTube but everywhere, and it is just intense. But you'd think if we all keep talking, eventually, you know, it's gonna keep getting higher and higher up the chain. And you know, who knows what will happen next few years.

45:32 But yeah, it's got something's got to change. It's got to be normal. It's going to turn normal for people. Big for society will be right back after these messages. It's got to like this is how everything else advanced was by more and more people talking about it. Absolutely, it's yeah, it's just waiting it out until everything comes forward.

46:15 This let's say this area of Michigan where you have a lot of activity and maybe not just port here on the area, but you know the region does. Are there a lot of missing people cases over there or not? Really? I don't think there's as many. Okay, I think I think more out west, like where Davids pilates, like it's come from big national parks, but I think there's like main parks like Ostemite I think is a big one. Yeah, he usually a lot of his h tend to stick with the national parks, and I don't know if you saw he's got I was trying to raise money to fund a missing four ohe one national parks due to the change and filming requirements for national parks now, so that'll be you know, crazy if people if he's able to raise support fully for that man, that would be Yeah, people would come out of the woodwork after that's out there in the public, you know. I think that would really empower a lot of people to share what they've experienced, so telling you man next few years could get pretty wild.

47:39 Yeah. I think a lot of it's the portals. I think people are walking through portals and then I don't know what to open in the portals because I know there's got to be other things that can open portals, so there are no telling what it could be. And and I think there's other things bringing them back, so they're finding clothes or or whatever. Yeah, portals is such a weird thing. We don't get into it a lot on the show, but it I mean, it's still a valid topic because it's you know, you look at it was reported on Skinwalker Ranch like way Back is way Back where they actually had a portal open up on a on the Mesa and they saw something that looked like a bigfoot come out of the portal.

48:25 And then I mean you have other reports like the Adam Davies report from Oregon where they were seeing some kind of creatures come out of the portal multiple times all night long for multiple nights, and just how they had to pretty much keep those at bay. So yeah, something something is going on. If I ever experienced that, not sure how I will react to that, but I think it's a thing where these accounts keep keep coming up that we need to be aware of it, especially people that.

49:08 They report. I get this every once in a while they report the metallic sounds out in the woods. Oh man, don't really make sense, but usually that that seems to be related, you know, to those So. Wow, Yeah, I remember I walked through one the one time. Yeah, it was I think, well, I don't know where I was, that's the problem. But after I walked through and it was dark, and then I hit an opening and there were there were orbs. I seemed like five orbs, and they were like metallic like like they were made out of mercury, and they looked like short fat worms and I seem like five of them. So I think I think's happening is when like I think it's a higher dimension, and I think sasquat just like stealing the hunter's ear, and then they're jumping over there, and then they're eating the deer in that higher dimension, and then they're popping back.

50:15 They're coming here where things are physical and because they're keeping them all ways, but then they can go to the higher dimensions and then they can hang out there too. So I think in the higher dimensions, there's not as many physical beings, so they can't hunt, so then they come here. Sure, Matt, do you have any advice for individuals that might be interested to go out to an area and to see if they can have interaction or some kind of experience.

50:55 Yeah, I think they need to. Sasquatch have their own rules, and the biggest thing is nobody follows them well because we know, we know what they don't like. They don't like technology, they don't want to be on camera, they don't like tape recorders. I've learned that they I bought a thermal. I took that out there. The first time I pulled it out, the battery was dead. And the best thing is to just go out enjoy nature and sit around a campfire, away away from away from things that could make them nervous, away from roads and buildings and anything. Just go out in nature and relax. You don't have to find them. I just I noticed they like to stay around all the good fishing spots. I think that's when everything started was because it was because I went fishing and I knew where the good fishing hole was, and they liked it too. Mean to just go out and relax and nature and go fishing. Keep your phone, take your phone with you, just keep it in your pocket. And if you don't try and get evidence and you just go out there and relax, you got a real good chance.

52:15 Yeah, and yeah, it makes sense that it would be near the good fishing areas because yeah, they need a need the uh the food source. So when you know, why wouldn't they be by the uh the good fishing areas for sure? But I think you're definitely onto something with the whole, Like the batteries not lasting for a long time. And I've been talking to some individuals from Oregon and near the Oak Hoole area near Oakridge, and uh, they've started to you know, when they drive up there, then their their car battery is just totally taken out, you know, and they're starting to have all these batteries us with their And it's like makes sense, man, when you when you think of the whole, you know, you think all the accounts and you kind of put them together and you're like, yeah, I mean.

53:13 Be careful. Yeah, then they hate they hate guns. Oh yeah, they definitely hate guns. They they must have had a lot of bad experiences and they probably all talk about it. Yeah, Unfortunately, there have been some situations where you know, I can think of up in Washington where Hunter, you know, shoots one and then later on in a different area he's thrown like ten feet in the woods by something he can't see. You know this, You know. They they don't forget for sure, No, they do not forget. They talk so the their emotions are exaggerated because because of the telepathy and stuff. If I got with them, I'm I'm to where now I can know what individuals around by can I like connect with them and then I can feel their their attitude, like like I can feel the young ones they're how they're energetic, or I can feel the Indian one or or the alpha male.

54:24 Like I'm getting to where I can feel the presence of which ones out there before I see anything. I don't know, It's it's wild. Do you feel like I'm able to have conversations as well? They they send me visions and feelings like like if they really want, like they wanted Brian to go out there, they let me know and I asked them like they can connect with me at home. I don't need it or work, I don't need to actually go in the woods anymore, right, So, so, yeah, they were bugging about him, and they're really interested in less Stroud for some reason.

55:08 That's interesting. Yeah. I don't know what it is, but hopefully he gets out in the woods and interacts with him too. They all know him, Yeah, they definitely all know him. Sometimes I try to look for patterns and I don't know, I feel like I feel like there's definitely a focus on reaching out to people that have some sort of influence or able to get something out to a large amount of people, you know what I mean.

55:48 Yeah, they're trying. I think they're trying. They want things to happen. I think they're tired of avoiding us, and they see how unaware we are out in the woods, like most people like finding them abandoned campsites, like, I think they want people to know they're here. It's it's like you said, I mean, you put the puzzle pieces together and it there's some interesting stuff. I'd definitely advise though, if you end up walking through a portal, turn around, turn around as quick as you realize you're not where you're supposed to be, and go back to the exact way you can, because if they're open and their clothing.

56:36 Is there a way to know that you are actively walking through one. You'll feel super odd, You'll feel like disoriented, weird, is what happened? Okay? And then yeah, if you hear the metallic sounds, that's got to be a giveaway to get out of there. I mean, you just stay where, you know where you're at. I mean I would if I heard metallic sounds, I wouldn't go peeking in the bushes to see what's there. Yeah, because I know I did that once. I ain't never going to do it again. I still I went to that spot one time for the episode. I hate it the whole time. Man. I want it out of there. And it's been twenty years.

57:24 I want nothing to do with that area. Oh for Bigfoot of Michigan. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah. Wow, Well Matt, it has been a it's been a wild update you. I mean, some some crazy stuff is still going on in that area. It'd be interesting, uh, now that the show has a little bit more reach to see what other people have experienced as well. But I just want to make sure that you were able to share everything that you wanting to share today. Yeah, I mean, this is just a lot of this are just one year, one season, so maybe we can get back in touch after next season and it's gonna get crazy.

58:14 I'd say definitely keep in touch and yeah, things continue to progress. I'd love to keep in touch with you. So but ma'am Matt than sorry for coming back on. It was good talking to you again. It feels like it is more than a year. But thank you so much for hanging out. Dude, Hey, thanks for having me. I'll keep in touch. Just want to take a few minutes to say thank you to you all my listeners for listening to the podcast. Please take a minute to help out the show by subscribing on YouTube, making sure you hit the bell so you don't miss any notifications, and share the episode on YouTube with a friend. Also, if you're listening to us on a podcast, thank you so much. Make sure that you're subscribed, share the show with a friend. Really, it's all about sharing the show wherever you can. If you've had a Bigfoot encounter related to the following, or know someone who has, please reach out to me at Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com or pass on my email.

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