Intense Bigfoot Encounters of Southeast Missouri with Mike Scott!

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Welcome to the Bigfoot Society. In
this episode, I talked to Mike Scott

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about his multiple years of bigfoot research
and encounters in southeast Missouri. If you've

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experienced something similar to what Mike has, or have more information regarding Bigfoot or

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other cryptids in the same area,
please reach out immediately to me after this

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episode. If you've had an encounter
and you'd like to be on the show,

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please contact me directly at bigfot Society
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You've got the privilege of talking to
Mike Scott tonight. He's an individual that's

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had a few interesting things happen to
him down in Missouri regarding Bigfoot. But

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how's it going, Mike? It's
going real good. Uh. I just

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appreciate you having me on. Looking
forward to the evening absolutely well, Mike,

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let's get right into it. I
know you've got some interesting things to

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share, so I'm going to go
ahead and give the floor right over to

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you and share with us what you've
experienced so far. If you don't mind.

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Well, my journey with this started
in December of twenty nineteen. That's

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as far as the journey of finding
my first pieces of Bigfoot evidence, and

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it kind of goes back before then. I'm fifty fifty eight years old,

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so i'd have been fifty four probably
at that point, somewhere around there.

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But I remember at age twelve checking
out a book from the library and reading

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it called on the Track of Bigfoot
and that you know that stuff. You

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know, that was published probably in
the mid seventies, so that kind of

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covered things up to that point what
they knew. Carl Krue or Jerry Crewe

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in the Footprints, Patterson Gimlin,
things like that, and I thought,

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this is kind of cool. It's
a cool subject. There's probably some to

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do this, but it seems like
everything is up in the Pacific Northwest,

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and I just left it at that. Then you get busy, you're playing

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sports in high school and going to
college and getting on with your family and

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things like that. Totally ignored and
forgot about anything Bigfoot. It never crossed

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my mind again until these cable TV
shows started coming out, you know,

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Monster Quest that was that was one
of the first ones I started watching uh,

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you know, Finding Bigfoot, and
they you know, you watch those

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shows and they're made for TV,
their Hollywood entertainment. But then you're thinking

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that everybody is lying about this stuff. There's got to be something to this,

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you know, these guys really getting
on TV and making these stories up.

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And and so had had an interest
peaqued. And then when my youngest

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of two kids, my son,
when he got through playing college baseball,

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and you know, we were just
a sports family, were you know,

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daughter of swim meets his baseball games. You know that all that stuff got

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done. He wanted to continue to
have a hobby that we could do together,

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and he suggested hunting and fishing and
things. You know, we didn't

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do a lot of that because we
were always doing the team sports and things.

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So I said, yeah, cool, let's do that. And in

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my in my county, Cape Girardo
County, Cape Gerardo, Missouri is where

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I live. We're about one hundred
miles south of Saint Louis on the Mississippi

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River, the big conservation area the
north part of the county. I said,

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well, that's public land. Let's
go up there get the hunt licenses.

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And you know, you're a little
shooting go up there and check it

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out for some squirrel hunting. And
came across a set of footprints December twenty

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nineteen. These prints for seventeen and
a half inches long. They were about

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eight inches at the whitest part.
They had about a five foot stride length.

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We saw about four or five steps. We saw right foot, left

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foot, right foot, left foot, and you could clearly make that out

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toes. And it just floored me
that I was looking at that, and

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my son even knew what we were
looking at. You know, you just

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you do the math. No,
who has feet that big in December in

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Missouri. It's going to be walking
barefoot, nobody. We're both he's six

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six, I'm six five. We
both wear size fifteen shoes, and it

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just swallowed our boots up, and
I'm like, it's got to be bigfoot.

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But who would have thought right here? Who would have thought right here

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in Cape Girardal County. I never
would have thought that, Never to believe

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that. And fast forward that was
December twenty nineteen. Well, what happened

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in March of twenty twenty COVID they
shut everything down. They closed my work

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down. I work at a high
school. I teach high school. I'm

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athletic director at an area of high
school. They closed us down. You

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couldn't go anywhere. Everything's closed.
They can't keep me from going to the

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woods. So I started going to
that same conservation area over and over again

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and looking around, you know,
and every time I would go, I

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would see more bigfoot evidence. And
then bring a friend, you know,

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get a couple of friends involved.
There's three or four of us now doing

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this, and we're going up there. You know. You go up there,

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and then after a while, as
you see the evidence, you hear

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the whoops. You know. I
guess if you're there enough times, they

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kind of recognize who you are,
and then they start reaching out and making

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some kind of communications. Let you
know where they're at. You know,

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this one's up on that ridge.
That one's up on that ridge. Hey,

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I got three of them watching me
right now. I better get out

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of here, get to the car, leave curiosity. Come back. After

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two or three times that, I'm
thinking, Okay, they're not going to

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hurt me, or they would have
done it. So you just keep doing

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a little bit more. And then
we decided, hey, let's a couple

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primitive camp sites up there. Let's
camp out, pitch a tent, stay

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overnight. And I remember the first
the first few times we did that.

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You get all these you know,
and we did that. We bought all

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the spotlights, the game cams,
night visions, all that stuff, set

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up a perimeter game cams, and
we'd get nothing, and we get nothing,

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but we knew they were there because
we'd hear them in the distance.

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And then as I started getting into
these social media bigfoot networks, you hear

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other people talk about maybe they've tried
a little bit differently. So I told

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one of my buddies one time,
let's just put all the cameras up.

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Let's just put all that up.
Let's just us and whatever comes in nothing,

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nothing lightwise, but a campfire.
And it was then when they started

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paying us closer visits. And that's
when, you know, that's when we

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started having some real cool moments and
some interactions, and you know, you

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communicate back and forth with one you
know, there was one that I've got

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to wear. When I would go
out there for about a six month period,

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we would actually verbally communicate back and
forth with each other. I think

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it was a female. She'd stay
in the tree line. She wouldn't come

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out and expose herself, but we
had that verbal communication going and that went

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on once a month for about six
straight months, and the communication would last

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sometimes ten fifteen minutes, and then
you know, then she'd go on her

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way. And so we had some
real neat experiences and still later on I'll

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share my latest experience with which is
just awesome, but the up there.

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And then I got to know some
folks that had some stuff going on on

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their property two counties away and started
working with them. And that's just been

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in the last year, in two
or three months that we've been doing that,

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and I actually actually had my first
good sighting at their place. My

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first good sighting was back in December
this year. And that's when you that's

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when, Okay, everything that you've
studied, everything that you've interacted with,

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everything that you've dealt with in four
years now has finally come to tuition Where

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I'm sitting there looking in the eye
of a Sasquatch it about forty yards and

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no mistake in what you're looking at, and probably we probably looked at each

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other for about fifteen seconds. And
I never felt any fear because I've been

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waiting for this for four years.
You know, I've been in amongst them

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for four years, and plus we
run the private property where the family has

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a relationship with them. So I
felt like, you know, this is

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cool, This is so cool.
You've exposed yourself to me and let me

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see you, and I think this
is so cool. Now. He just

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kind of told him that, and
after about fifteen seconds he gets kind of

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turned around and mosey back into the
woods. He'd probably had to be about

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ten foot tall. The head and
the shoulders are so massive. You know,

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I'm six' five, a little
north of three hundred pounds, and

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it was just it were three times
of me at the head and shoulders.

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It was really really crazy. So
I have a few questions about the whole

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It sounds almost like a habituation type
deal going on. There a few counties

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over from where you're at, which
I want listeners to realize that. So

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Cape Girardo, Missouri is in the
southeast corner, so you're very close to

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southern Illinois Little Egypt area. Correct, We're real close to the Little Egypt

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area. The place that we researched
in North Cape County. The conservation area

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is really right across the Mississippi River
from the Big Muddy River. And everybody

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has heard of the Big Muddy monstery
southern Illinois, so you know the Big

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Buddy. Where we go, it's
about twenty miles north of Cape, the

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north side of the county, and
the Big Money is just across the Mississippi

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River. And then we're in the
Missouri side, and you know, there's

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plenty of plenty of sasquatches up there
on both sides of the river. So

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the that's the other thing I found
out is there there are a lot more

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of these out there than people can
imagine, because exactly just in my four

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years where we go in North Cap, just North Cape County, a lot

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that one conservation area, I've seen
every size footprint increment from ten inches to

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twenty four inches. I've seen ten
inch footprints, eleven inch, twelve inch,

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thirteen fourteen, all the way up
to twenty four inches. And and

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I can take anybody there's two places
up there. I can take anybody up

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there on any given day and almost
guarantee we'll find footprints because it's it's travel

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ways for and wow, that's that's
incredible. So the habituation area so I'm

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curious right off the bat, what
kind of you said that they are having

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some kind of interactions or is it
a gifting type situation, or what a

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type of interactions is this family having
with the Sasquatch on this property. Okay,

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those guys, those guys, they've
got a farm, they've got a

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little you know, they grow some
produce. They've got some greenhouses they've and

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it started with them that the Sasquatch
was coming and raiding the greenhouses. They

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didn't know what it was at first, and they thought people were doing that.

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Well, we're going to get those
people. You know, we're going

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to sit traps, you know,
we're gonna Well then they find out it's

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not people, or it could be
people, depending on how you viewed the

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Sasquatch, but they so. And
the one of the young men with the

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family that kind of reached out of
one of the Facebook groups like hey,

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I got some stuff going on here, and a couple of carter carter brushard

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contacted them. I got with them
and the built a relationship with them and

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made my first visit out on their
property about a year ago January, and

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I suggested in addition to what they
have because they learned to share their vegetation

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with the with the Sasquatch family that's
under And I kind of suggested, I

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said, look, I said,
you got two options here. You can

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run them off and they could turn
it right back around and make your life

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miserable very much so, or you
could learn to live with them. And

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and the neat thing was that they
were that the Sasquatch wasn't taking all their

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stuff. They're just taking portions of
it anyway, and they still had a

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fruitful farm. And then I suggested, in addition to what they're doing,

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we set up a gifting bucket and
try a gifting program. So and then

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we did. We start that last
January. And I'd just get the bucket

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and put the bucket up there at
the edge of the woods there and you

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know, put apples in it and
peanut butter, jar peanut butter, you

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know, you know, things of
that nature, and started getting some mine

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rest. You know. They of
course, they really enjoyed the apples,

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and they didn't get apples at the
farm. They enjoyed the peanut butter.

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But they would take here's the things
we started noticing. They would take the

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peanut butter jar, take it back
to the camp or wherever it is they

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stayed. And then when the peanut
butter jar was empty and done, they'd

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bring it back and set it back
in the bucket, and we'd put some

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of those little sweet and salty granola
bars on there. They would tear open

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the wrapper, take them out of
the wrapper, and then they would either

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put the wrapper back in the bucket
or they'd stick it up there in a

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nearby tree limb, just so we
could see it so they're not littering the

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forest. And then we come back
up and check either them or me.

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We gather up the rappers. They're
all right there, and you know,

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and properly trash them. They leave
little glyphs for us. And one glyph

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was in the shape of a human
stick figure, and and and and it

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had very positive interactions, of course
they were I'd go up once every three

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or four weeks to fill the bucket
and visit them, and and they you

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know I wasn't seeing them, They
would see him. They would have had

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the interactions with them. They worked
the farm every day and one of the

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I think the oldest kid in the
big Foot group would would and he was

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probably about seven foot tall. He
would come down and shadow him and watch

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him work the farm, and curious, and you know, they're working the

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farm and looking over their shoulder,
and there's you know, Junior Bigfoot or

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whatever you want to call him,
you know, about twenty yards away watching

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them. And and this kind of
stuff went on with them, and they

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got to where they were fairly comfortable
with each other. And and but when

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I would go up, I wouldn't
see him. I'd see all the evidence.

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And then and then went up,
did a couple overnights that just a

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couple of night times, spent the
night up, but still didn't hear her

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them, didn't still but didn't.
Finally, it was December when I was

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filling the bucket up. In December
is when finally the one exposed itself to

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where I could see one one of
them in the in the in that family

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and the one of the farm owners
had seen him up there in the woods

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and was talking to him, and
I said, do you see you know,

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I'm finishing the bucket and she says, yeah, she says, come

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over and take a look. And
I went over and took a look,

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and sure enough, and she said
there were two other the younger ones with

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him, but they had gone into
hiding by the time I got over there,

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and he was you know, we
just sat there and looked, you

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know, about forty yards away,
and I said some real nice things to

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him, so I hope you appreciate, you know, the treats, and

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then you know, there for you
guys, and he just kind of swayed

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that head back and forth a little
bit and about fifteen seconds just turned just

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kind of walked back in wherever the
young ones went, I guess, following

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him back into the woods. So
I guess he's coming to say, hey,

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you know, thanks for the thanks
for the treats. I don't know,

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so like, there's been so many
years that you were getting into the

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subject and then you finally have a
visual you know, sighting which everyone wants

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to have that, and you know, how did how did that affect you

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emotionally during that moment? Were what
were you feeling inside when you're like,

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I'm actually finally able to look at
one. I I just felt, I

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mean, my feeling was this is
so cool, you know, and I

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have at this point, I've it's
been a four year journey for me to

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get to this point, now,
I had seen one evening that I know

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was a bigfoot, but I couldn't
just I mean, it looked like a

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real dark shadow hopping from behind one
tree to behind another tree at about twenty

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five yards during the evening hours when
it was almost you know, pitch dark,

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and I could see that. And
then another time over in Madison County

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at the farm, I saw one
peeking around a tree at about seventy yards,

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just kind of you see the head
pop. I didn't even recognize it

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till I saw the start seeing the
movement because they pointed out, yeah,

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there is up there, there is
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tree. They said, you see
that, you like a little bulge coming

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out, go back in, But
never a good siding to that moment.

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And it was that moment I thought, this is just so cool, you

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know. Was there anything that surprised
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Any details that were like, wow, this is a lot. This is

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different than what I was expecting than
what I've seen in pictures. I didn't

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realize, you know, they call
him bigfoot for a reason. I've seen

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the prints up to twenty four inches. This one's Prince were about twenty inches

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that I've seen multiple times, which
probably about ten foot tall, and the

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massive size of that head no neck
going down into the shoulders, and the

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conical over the head was very exposed
to. I just didn't realize the width

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and the size were just that big. It's just, you know, even

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though you hear well ten foot tall, eight hundred pounds or whatever, it

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just seeing it brings that the light
that these things are really really huge.

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And that's what you know, no
flab on them at all, you know,

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everything is just solid build, body
build. So that's that's interesting.

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So yeah, I guess go into
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guessing there was some hair on the
creature. But yeah, are you saying

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that you could see things a seat
under the hair as well? No,

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Because it was in the shade of
the forest at about forty I could see

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the dark hair, and I could
see some of the facial features, like

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you know, the eyes and the
nose that and you can see what's kind

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of have a lot of hair on
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you just see because he was on
he was on all fours at the time,

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and I could see him from about
to chest up, so I didn't

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really see the legs or the length
of the arms. But even on all

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fours, he was almost looking me
in the eye. And I'm six foot

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five. And when he turned around
and started, he stayed on all fours,

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I could see the back of I
could see down he had a little

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silverish spot on his back, which
they always told me they called him silver

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Back because of that. And I
could notice that is it lightened up on

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the backside as he went in behind
the So so that was but it was

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just it was just so cool looking
at that And I didn't think. I

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thought, well, I just wanted
to just observed him. I didn't walk

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in toward him. I didn't you
know, some people may have run toward

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him to try to get a better
look. I thought, I'm going to

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respect the situation and and appreciate the
situation. What what's the closest you think

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they've gotten to silver Back on that
property, since there's, uh, there's

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a habituation situation going on, the
closest they got to the silver Back is

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probably that close. Uh it's it's
the kid, his kid, the one

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that's about he is about he's probably
he's probably about eight foot tall by now.

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But he's that they've actually had physical
contact with him as far as reaching

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out, tapping his shoulder and things
like that. He's he gets out acting

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with him and is playful with him. But you know, the so that's

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so I can't that that's that's actually
something that doesn't come up. I can't.

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I can probably count the number of
times that's come up on this show

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on one hand. So you're saying
their situations in that where they are actually

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touching the well juvenile like tapping out. Yeah. Yeah, Like he'll he'll

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come up if he's if if my
buddy who's working the greenhouse and he's a

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young adult, he's probably close to
thirty years old. But when he's working

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the greenhouse, the juvenile sometimes if
he's getting wood or you know, he'll

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come up, sneak up behind him, tap him on the shoulder, and

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then jump back about six or seven
feet. He turned around there he is,

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Oh, sorry, I misunderstood.
You're saying the juvenile is tapping him

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on the shoulder. Yeah. Yeah, but the juvenile is about about seven

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to eight foot tall. Though he's
a he's a good size, you know,

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like a teenager, and he'll be
inside the greenhouse and working the greenhouse

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at night. The juvenile will open
the greenhouse door and walk in and you

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know, kind of look at him
and watch him, you know, And

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so he's had very very close interactions. So it's like, there's two ways

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you could take that. I mean, if if I'm pretending I'm the guy

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in the greenhouse, it could either
be, well, he's messing around,

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he's trying to prak me, you
know, he's having a good time,

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or he's saying, hey, I
could take you out if I wanted to,

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but I'm just gonna do a little
tap on the shoulder. But I'm

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here, you know, man,
probably a little bit of both, you

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know. I don't know the the
you know, they had a one particular

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day, as he described it,
he was in the greenhouse and as he's

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come to exit the greenhouse, the
juvenile was holding the door closed, like,

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you know, somebody that prank you
gonna hold the door close and not

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let you out and not let you
in. He says. I'm like,

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you know, he says, so
I give it a real hard push and

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I catch him off guard and I
pop the door open, and then he

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slams the shed and jams smashes my
finger with it. He goes, and

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I start screaming because I'm in pain. He runs off. I go take

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care of my finger. And then
from the creek bottom the yell that we

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called it Fool's Gold where your kids
those old rocks ahead of what to look

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like the quartz on there and stuff
like that, he delivers him a quartz

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rock as a as a like an
I'm sorry gift. The next day,

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Sally, Yeah, but speaking of
rocks, so you have quartz in the

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area, do you have have any
other big deposit types of mostly limes,

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certain rocks. Mostly it's a big
limestone area. Okay, yeah, okay,

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you got your now, then you
got your the other granted probably over

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where they're at. There is some
granite over over in Madison County where they're

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at, they're about they're about sixty
five or so miles to the northwest of

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me where the where these guys are
at. But the and there is granted

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over there over our area and closer
to the river. It's mostly just limestone.

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And so they're over kind of in
the foothills of the Mark Twain National

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Forest and the Missouri os Arcs over
that you know that they're kind of on

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the eastern edge of the Missouri os
Arks. And I was just looking.

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I was like, I've got to
see where Madison County is, and I

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was like, oh, Mark Twain
National Forest. Yeah, yeah, so

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yeah, that's it. The and
and then where we're at is close to

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you know, you go up and
down that Mississippi River and there's gonna be

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sasquatch activity all up and down through
there on those bottoms. Why do you

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think that there's so much activity in
this this corner of Missouri slash Illinois.

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I just I just think the river
bottoms with the thick forests. You know,

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you got Shawnee National Forest over there
on the southern Illinois side. And

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then you know, and then all
the tributaries going into the river up and

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down the river, the creeks and
the sleughs and the smaller rivers. It

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just it gives any type of predatory
animal with perfect habitat. You got water

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source, you got food source,
you got plenty of thick woods covered,

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and it's a perfect habitat for you
know, if you're living off the land,

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absolutely plenty of plenty of vegetation,
plenty of game. You know.

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Yeah eight. So you know you
mentioned earlier, so you're in the area

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of Murphy's Borough then, yeah,
we're right. Murphy's borrow is probably across

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the river in thirty miles to the
north, maybe something like that. Ya,

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And it's that's such a fun story
from nineteen seventy three. Oh yeah,

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listeners, if you don't know about
the Big Muddy Monster, there's a

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great doc out there's a great documentary
out there. There's a great book.

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Now there's a festival. I got
to get down there. It's I mean,

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I can drive down there. It's
probably seven eight hours from where I'm

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at in Iowa, but I hear
it's a great one. But have you

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ever you know, I man,
if I was down there, I'd be

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like, what if, like the
same Bigfoot is somehow connected to like the

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stuff I'm researching. That'd be wild
man. Yeah, you know are they

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Are they the same? To me? I think there's just different groups,

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different clans. I think they've got
clans over there, they got clans over

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here. I don't think they're using
the river and go back and forth or

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anything, but they could be.
I don't know. But there's just to

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me, the evidence shows that there's
plenty of them in certain areas now.

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And I another spot over in Madison
County that I've had some activity is another

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person's private property. And that's you
know, you know, we sat there

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and I sat there one night,
and you know we had the eye shine

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of three of them, you know, within thirty yards of us. And

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and and just watching that. You
know, somebody told me a few years

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ago, just you don't have to
go tretching through the woods. Just build

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a fire, enjoy each other's company, their curiosity, they'll come and check

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you out. And that has worked
for me better than anything as far as

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getting the interactions. Absolutely. And
so let's say you were moving move into

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a new area and you were you
were like, you know, I got

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to find the places. What are
the first steps that you would take to

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try to figure out, like,
what are the areas I'm going to start

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to look into to see if there's
big foot activity. What what I do

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is I get on the Google Earth
and look at the Google earth Maps topographical

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maps, and I look where there's
water and cover. And if there's water

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and cover, you're more than likely
going to find bigfoot now. And you

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don't have to be too far away
from the population. You can be.

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They're not always out in the middle
of nowhere. And I'll give you a

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case in point. You know,
I started this journey. My sister got

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involved in it with me. She
actually had a signing on the road one

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night and has her own story.
She did several of my shows. When

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I did my podcast Understanding Bigfoot,
we put thirty seven shows out there,

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I hadn't done one, and by
a year I'm just kind of don't know

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if I'll get back and do it
again. I may just not. But

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she did several shows with me.
But we had parents we have with family

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members told us, nah, you
guys are crazy, right, sure you've

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heard that, they and but we
stuck through our stories because we knew our

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stories were true, you know,
and we didn't care what they said.

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We were gonna do what we're going
to do, and we're going to leave

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what we know because we've experienced it. And I tell my brother, hey,

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come out with us, come experience
what we experience, you know,

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and then you know, make you
know. They So this was this past

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summer. My parents are both eighty
five years old. They live up in

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Saint Charles, Missouri. Suburban Saint
Louis three million population metropolitan Saint Louis.

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Right, And and Dad and I
were going back and forth. We've got

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a great relationship, and we were
going back and forth, and he's rassing

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me about this stuff. I said, look, And I was due up

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to get up there and take him
to a doctor appointment on a Monday,

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and I was going to come up
on a Sunday. I said, tell

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you what. I'll tell you what. There is a bicycle trail that starts

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in Saint Charles and goes across to
Kansas City on the Missouri River. They

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call it the Katie Trail. Very
popular tourists of ext you know, people

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ride the whole thing. They rate
pips of it. It's a recreational thing.

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It's super and and right there in
Saint Charles County, about six miles

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where my dad lives, there's a
conservation area, public conservation area down on

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that river called Weldon Spring Conservation Area. Katie Trail runs through there. I

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said, I'll tell you what.
I said, Let's go. Let's let's

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take Let's take a drive down to
the parking lot there to Katie Trail and

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the conservation area and we'll just listen, just sit and listen for the night

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and see what we hear. I
had no idea. I hadn't had any

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other a bigfoot activity in that area. Yeah, except for a story that

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I knew from about forty five years
ago. And we didn't even know it

407
00:35:09.079 --> 00:35:13.320
was big foot back then. We
just thought this guy's crazy, but we

408
00:35:13.400 --> 00:35:20.320
knew he was something that scared him, right, And so we go down

409
00:35:20.400 --> 00:35:28.440
there and we park and we're talking
the last cyclist, is it starting to

410
00:35:28.440 --> 00:35:31.360
get dark? Last cyclist that gets
done riding the bike on that portion of

411
00:35:31.400 --> 00:35:36.159
the trail gets in his truck.
And when that last cyclist, when that

412
00:35:36.199 --> 00:35:39.719
truck pulls out of the parking lot, up on the ridge in the woods,

413
00:35:39.760 --> 00:35:47.880
we hear distinct two tree knocks.
And my dad heard that. He

414
00:35:47.920 --> 00:35:54.920
said that was two tree knocks.
I said, yeah it was, He

415
00:35:55.000 --> 00:36:01.400
said, I said maybe. I
said, My guess is it's signaling the

416
00:36:01.519 --> 00:36:08.000
rest of them in the woods that
the bicyclists are gone for the night.

417
00:36:13.159 --> 00:36:15.119
The other five minutes go by,
ten minutes go by, we don't hear

418
00:36:15.159 --> 00:36:22.840
anything. Now, if that up
there tree knocked and he's overlooking the area,

419
00:36:22.920 --> 00:36:25.360
he knows we're still there in the
car. But he knows we're not

420
00:36:25.440 --> 00:36:30.679
bicyclists, right, He's smart enough
know that. So I thought, well,

421
00:36:30.760 --> 00:36:37.760
I normally don't do this, but
I'm with Dad. Dad's got expectations

422
00:36:37.760 --> 00:36:42.800
of activity. We're not getting activity. I normally don't do this, but

423
00:36:42.840 --> 00:36:50.159
I'm gonna let out a couple whoops. That guy up there already knows that

424
00:36:50.280 --> 00:36:53.480
he knows it's me whooping. I'm
not gonna fool him. I may not

425
00:36:53.519 --> 00:36:58.159
fool any of them, but I
didn't anyway. I normally don't do that,

426
00:36:58.280 --> 00:37:00.239
normally don't have So I go to
a big whoop, you know,

427
00:37:00.239 --> 00:37:07.159
whoop, a couple of them,
high pitched. And after I did my

428
00:37:07.320 --> 00:37:14.440
second one, up on the ridge
to the left of this, uh,

429
00:37:14.719 --> 00:37:22.920
we hear a real loud, long
drawn out, bigfoot screen like you'd hear

430
00:37:22.280 --> 00:37:27.800
with the Ohio sounds, you know, one of those, And it just

431
00:37:27.880 --> 00:37:31.599
set the woods up. We started
hearing them fall over that conservation area ridge

432
00:37:31.679 --> 00:37:36.800
just to just yell back and forth, back and forth. It sounded like

433
00:37:36.840 --> 00:37:43.599
a whole chorus of them just was
in a certain distance of us, and

434
00:37:43.960 --> 00:37:47.960
it scared my dad. He got
spooked. I thought it was deep.

435
00:37:49.320 --> 00:37:52.960
I thought it was cool because I've
I've heard the same thing in Southeast Missouri

436
00:37:52.000 --> 00:37:55.400
on a few occasions. Right,
I'm like, this, they're here,

437
00:37:55.840 --> 00:38:00.559
They're here. This is so cool. And he's like, let's go.

438
00:38:02.199 --> 00:38:08.920
Your Dad's like gon zero to sixty
in like two seconds exactly this. I'm

439
00:38:08.960 --> 00:38:14.199
like, I'm like, what are
you afraid of? They don't exist?

440
00:38:19.000 --> 00:38:27.760
And anyway, I tell you,
he'll doubt play it to this day.

441
00:38:28.119 --> 00:38:36.039
It was. It was so much
fun. And and my sister who lives

442
00:38:36.039 --> 00:38:39.840
in Texas, she was coming up
a couple of weeks later to visit him.

443
00:38:40.199 --> 00:38:44.960
She's all, I got to take
him out there. So she takes

444
00:38:45.039 --> 00:38:49.000
him back out to the same place
and he went and turned the motor off

445
00:38:49.039 --> 00:38:52.800
for the car. He went,
you got to turn the motor off the

446
00:38:52.800 --> 00:38:55.559
cars, we hear you. I
ain't turn it off, what if it

447
00:38:55.559 --> 00:39:02.760
won't start back up. So she
finally brought it back, convinced him to

448
00:39:04.320 --> 00:39:07.360
turn the motor off, and then
then she did. She started. They

449
00:39:07.360 --> 00:39:12.679
had some activity too, and it's
like two times you know, so but

450
00:39:12.719 --> 00:39:17.000
that but that's but what that tells
you is they're all over the place.

451
00:39:19.079 --> 00:39:22.039
You can look and you can look
at the habitat, habitual area in the

452
00:39:22.079 --> 00:39:23.320
map what it looks like, and
you can say they're probably there. They

453
00:39:23.320 --> 00:39:31.440
probably are. And in this case, they're in a county, Saint Charles

454
00:39:31.440 --> 00:39:37.360
County that you know, probably has
the entire county, probably has a population

455
00:39:37.440 --> 00:39:44.559
of three quarters of a million people, so you know, they don't have

456
00:39:44.639 --> 00:39:49.800
to be too far away. And
people recreationally ride that bike trail every single

457
00:39:49.920 --> 00:39:59.159
day without incident with the Bigfoot.
Don't even know they're there, most of

458
00:39:59.199 --> 00:40:04.039
them. And I bet they're just
watching them all day long though, and

459
00:40:04.079 --> 00:40:07.840
they're just watching them. Yeah,
there are people watchers they you know,

460
00:40:07.519 --> 00:40:13.679
I've had that with me, member
of cages. It's just that's the fast,

461
00:40:14.360 --> 00:40:16.119
that's the fascinating. That's like what
I did, the understanding Bigfoot thing.

462
00:40:16.159 --> 00:40:20.800
That's what do I want to call
the show. I don't want to

463
00:40:20.800 --> 00:40:22.000
call it Bigfoot is real. I
know that. I don't want to call

464
00:40:22.039 --> 00:40:29.360
it finding Bigfoot. I found them, Uh you know, hey, just

465
00:40:29.400 --> 00:40:35.599
try to understand what they know and
what they weren't they're about. Somebody told

466
00:40:35.599 --> 00:40:37.760
me, he said, you're never
going to understand Bigfoot, and then we

467
00:40:37.760 --> 00:40:43.239
will always have another show to do
or another subject to talk about exactly.

468
00:40:43.599 --> 00:40:45.920
You know, I bring this up
every once in a while, but someone

469
00:40:45.920 --> 00:40:50.840
about a year ago was like,
you know, so you're going to start

470
00:40:50.840 --> 00:40:54.679
focusing on Bigfoot? Yeah? Absolutely. Aren't you afraid that you're you're going

471
00:40:54.760 --> 00:40:59.280
to run out of people to talk
to that have had stuff happen. I

472
00:40:59.320 --> 00:41:02.480
don't think so. And now it's
like, no, never it will.

473
00:41:02.760 --> 00:41:07.440
I will never run out of people. It's it's intense all over the all

474
00:41:07.480 --> 00:41:12.320
over the nation and the world.
You've dealt with this, Jeremiah, and

475
00:41:12.400 --> 00:41:15.679
I've dealt with it, you probably
more so than me. Where I've had

476
00:41:15.760 --> 00:41:22.519
gas on the podcast that I've done
that said, finally, I'm able to

477
00:41:22.519 --> 00:41:30.199
get this off my chest to somebody
who understands absolutely. And I've lived with

478
00:41:30.559 --> 00:41:36.039
I've lived with this for how many
years we had a situation. I'm a

479
00:41:36.880 --> 00:41:39.480
I work at a high school,
and I work at a high This is

480
00:41:39.519 --> 00:41:44.039
my second year at that high school. I'm athletic director there and I teach

481
00:41:44.079 --> 00:41:46.800
a couple of classes and these kids
are wonderful. And this high school is

482
00:41:46.800 --> 00:41:51.440
in Bollinger County, Missouri. Now, if you look at the map,

483
00:41:51.519 --> 00:41:55.239
Cape Girardo County is there in the
river. The next county over is Bollinger

484
00:41:55.280 --> 00:41:59.719
County. The next county over is
Madison County, where I've had bigfoot activity.

485
00:41:59.800 --> 00:42:02.800
Right, so it's safe to say
if bigfooter in Cape Toronto County,

486
00:42:02.840 --> 00:42:07.360
big footer in Madison County, they're
probably in Bollinger County too. You know

487
00:42:07.760 --> 00:42:13.960
that they are. You know,
it's a rural what it county, But

488
00:42:14.159 --> 00:42:21.599
most of the people don't know that
they are because they you know, and

489
00:42:21.719 --> 00:42:24.960
so these kids, they find out
a new person's coming to town, he's

490
00:42:25.480 --> 00:42:30.760
not from there, he's going to
be you know, athletic director, teacher

491
00:42:30.800 --> 00:42:34.119
classes. They get on there and
they stalk you on social media. They

492
00:42:34.119 --> 00:42:40.880
find out this guy is this study
guy's into bigfoot. So yeah, they

493
00:42:42.039 --> 00:42:46.960
start rassing me. And they had
the other I did podcasts, did podcasts

494
00:42:47.000 --> 00:42:52.400
and and I'm still my guys,
I'm telling you, I'm telling you.

495
00:42:52.800 --> 00:42:58.679
And this year, this is just
this is just we're still in March.

496
00:42:58.719 --> 00:43:00.800
This is this month. This is
the first early this month, one of

497
00:43:00.840 --> 00:43:09.440
our seniors, female student going to
be valedictorian in the class basketball player over

498
00:43:09.480 --> 00:43:13.280
a thousand points in the basketball team
career wise. You know, good,

499
00:43:13.920 --> 00:43:19.639
you know you're all American kid,
right, she says to me a couple

500
00:43:19.679 --> 00:43:23.480
of months ago. There's one thing
I want you to do for me,

501
00:43:23.639 --> 00:43:29.400
and if you have others before we
graduate us. So what's that, she

502
00:43:29.519 --> 00:43:32.000
says, Take us out to the
woods and show us what you know,

503
00:43:36.159 --> 00:43:40.000
show us what you're seeing. Put
up or shut up, mister Scott,

504
00:43:44.280 --> 00:43:52.039
I said, okay, So I
got to school to let me take a

505
00:43:52.199 --> 00:43:55.679
sponsor, to let me take these
kids out on a field trip. You

506
00:43:55.679 --> 00:43:59.320
remember the old field trips in school, right, you go to the zoo

507
00:43:59.400 --> 00:44:02.760
or go someplace like that. So
I had eleven students. I had eight

508
00:44:02.840 --> 00:44:06.760
seniors and three juniors. Eleven students. Put them on a school bus,

509
00:44:07.239 --> 00:44:13.400
and since we're small school, I
also drive the bus. So drive them

510
00:44:13.440 --> 00:44:21.119
over to my conservation area in North
Cape County where I know the at least

511
00:44:21.159 --> 00:44:27.039
the one thing I know I can
show them is footprints. Right, are

512
00:44:27.039 --> 00:44:29.639
you going to show us Bigfoot?
Probably not. You're not going to see

513
00:44:29.639 --> 00:44:35.559
bigfoot. They're not you know,
they don't, they're not out. I

514
00:44:35.599 --> 00:44:39.360
said, I will show you evidence. I had my buddy, one of

515
00:44:39.360 --> 00:44:43.719
my research buddies, met me up
there. He's retired now. He met

516
00:44:43.800 --> 00:44:47.760
us up there, joined us,
and so we went out and we weren't.

517
00:44:49.119 --> 00:44:54.599
We weren't fifty seventy five yards off
the bus, and I spot the

518
00:44:54.599 --> 00:45:00.519
first track, and so I called, I said, look this, guys,

519
00:45:00.599 --> 00:45:04.719
let's look at this. It wasn't
a perfect track, but you could

520
00:45:04.719 --> 00:45:08.119
tell. I said, now,
get your hands down there. You see

521
00:45:08.320 --> 00:45:12.519
where the you know, the indentions
very barely, but there is an indention.

522
00:45:12.679 --> 00:45:15.920
You see if you feel toes,
they feel toes. Let's get the

523
00:45:15.920 --> 00:45:22.320
tape. Majure out that that track
is sixteen inches long, eight inches wide,

524
00:45:22.320 --> 00:45:25.880
and they can feel they can see
that's the track. I said.

525
00:45:25.880 --> 00:45:32.760
Now, I said, if this
is one track, there has to be

526
00:45:32.840 --> 00:45:39.920
others. So you want to look
four to five feet ahead, four to

527
00:45:40.039 --> 00:45:45.039
five feet behind. You may not
actually see a good footprint like this,

528
00:45:45.159 --> 00:45:47.880
but you'll see where it's stepped.
There'll be an impression where it's stepped,

529
00:45:50.239 --> 00:45:53.280
and then so and then and then
the students are looking. The students are

530
00:45:53.280 --> 00:45:57.079
picking it out. Hey, look
at there, look at there. He's

531
00:45:57.199 --> 00:46:00.719
right, hey, look you there, look at you know, and we

532
00:46:00.800 --> 00:46:08.800
saw three or four steps worth through
travel. And then once I showed them

533
00:46:09.119 --> 00:46:14.920
what I saw, they went out
and started looking like like like kids in

534
00:46:15.000 --> 00:46:19.559
an Easter egg hunt. Hey,
hey, this might be one here,

535
00:46:19.599 --> 00:46:22.159
Come look at it. Hey,
hey, this might be one over here,

536
00:46:22.199 --> 00:46:27.880
Come look at it. And and
so these kids are seeing for the

537
00:46:27.880 --> 00:46:30.800
first time, you're seeing sixteen inches. This was only a fifteen inch track.

538
00:46:32.719 --> 00:46:37.639
This one's this one's eighteen inches long. And they're they're they're seeing it,

539
00:46:37.719 --> 00:46:44.639
you know. And and they're getting
excited because they're seeing they know that

540
00:46:44.719 --> 00:46:52.000
something is laying these yeah, and
these are awful big feet. And and

541
00:46:52.119 --> 00:46:59.760
so they went up ahead and we
got to we got to an area that

542
00:47:00.239 --> 00:47:04.280
I said, I'm going to walk
on up the hill because I've seen some

543
00:47:04.320 --> 00:47:07.920
good tracks up there before. And
they were going to stay along that little

544
00:47:07.280 --> 00:47:13.000
small creek bed, and my buddy
was with them, and they were going

545
00:47:13.079 --> 00:47:22.280
up there. One of my students
found a perfect into creek bottom, seventeen

546
00:47:22.360 --> 00:47:30.519
inch print by nine wide toes down
in there that heel into the mid tarsal

547
00:47:30.559 --> 00:47:37.480
break. Everything was showing, I
mean, good old inch indentching into the

548
00:47:37.519 --> 00:47:46.440
ground. And I got to him
finally, and I had thought, because

549
00:47:46.480 --> 00:47:51.800
I wanted to have them to have
this experience, I got a I brought

550
00:47:51.840 --> 00:47:55.800
a kit for plaster casting. I
thought, if we find a good track.

551
00:47:55.800 --> 00:48:05.320
We're going to cast it. So
I got the casting material, showed

552
00:48:05.320 --> 00:48:09.039
the kids, okay, follow directions, mix it up. Students mixed it

553
00:48:09.159 --> 00:48:15.679
up. Students poured it into the
foot One kid pulls the wallet out.

554
00:48:15.679 --> 00:48:16.840
You've got a little credit card.
They kind of smooth it over at the

555
00:48:16.880 --> 00:48:25.239
top, make a nice smooth top. And that track is sitting there in

556
00:48:25.320 --> 00:48:30.559
the ground, seventeen inches long,
nine inches by the widest part. And

557
00:48:31.239 --> 00:48:35.159
I wanted to set up real good. And by this time they're hungry and

558
00:48:35.159 --> 00:48:37.400
they want to go get lunch,
but I wanted to set up real good.

559
00:48:37.480 --> 00:48:39.880
My buddy says, hey, let's
just do this. I'll come back

560
00:48:39.920 --> 00:48:44.760
tomorrow and get it. Let it
get good, because I'm worried about well,

561
00:48:44.760 --> 00:48:46.360
if we start taking it out of
ground, I don't want to fall

562
00:48:46.360 --> 00:48:53.639
apart. We got a mile to
walk back to the bus. And so

563
00:48:53.679 --> 00:48:57.159
my buddy goes back gets the next
day, gets out of ground. This

564
00:48:57.280 --> 00:49:04.599
is just a perfect, perfect footprint
that these students found, cast it and

565
00:49:04.599 --> 00:49:10.239
and and made their day. And
I'm working on I'm getting it cleaned up.

566
00:49:10.320 --> 00:49:14.920
And what we're going to do is
all the students that were on the

567
00:49:14.960 --> 00:49:19.199
trip are going to sign the flat
part of the cast and the school is

568
00:49:19.199 --> 00:49:22.079
going to let us put it on
display in the display case in the lobby

569
00:49:22.400 --> 00:49:30.800
at school. Now how cool is
that? And and these kids, most

570
00:49:30.880 --> 00:49:37.280
of them are three quarters of away
or better to believe it in what I'm

571
00:49:37.280 --> 00:49:40.480
doing and thinking, this guy is
nuts, so nuts after all, because

572
00:49:40.440 --> 00:49:46.559
we saw this much and so the
word links, you know, spreads at

573
00:49:46.599 --> 00:49:51.599
school. What what we did?
I got the cast in my classroom,

574
00:49:51.639 --> 00:49:57.480
and now you got other groups wanting
to go out, other groups when why

575
00:49:57.559 --> 00:49:59.960
can't why keep why you can't do? We just got to get a group.

576
00:50:00.039 --> 00:50:02.360
We gotta you know, you know, you'd be the next script to

577
00:50:02.400 --> 00:50:14.159
go. So that's the kind of
thing educating people. And we put that

578
00:50:14.440 --> 00:50:20.360
of the Simo bigfooten Crypti research facebook
page that my friend Susan Perez runs here

579
00:50:20.360 --> 00:50:24.400
out of Cape Girardo put We put
the pictures the story on that Facebook page,

580
00:50:24.440 --> 00:50:32.880
which the and then Barbara Hartman,
another one of my co hosts on

581
00:50:32.880 --> 00:50:37.079
Wednesday Nights are co Panteless on Wednesday
Nights, she put it on her no

582
00:50:37.199 --> 00:50:44.880
Drama Bigfoot Facebook page. And I
had somebody comment on the Semo Bigfoot page

583
00:50:45.719 --> 00:50:49.360
from just in the County to the
north of US in Perry County, right

584
00:50:49.400 --> 00:50:54.239
along the river. This is so
cool. I've been looking for a group

585
00:50:54.360 --> 00:50:58.519
to be able to share with this. I had a siding when I was

586
00:50:58.519 --> 00:51:05.760
a kid, and I haven't been
able to talk to anybody about it because

587
00:51:06.239 --> 00:51:13.719
my initial conversations were dismissed. You
didn't see that you were dreaming that,

588
00:51:14.960 --> 00:51:21.320
you know, And so I I
reached out to her, and you know,

589
00:51:21.760 --> 00:51:23.880
and she and I are gonna be
talking soon. But I thought,

590
00:51:23.920 --> 00:51:28.280
yeah, that's why we do what
we're doing, because there's so many people

591
00:51:28.280 --> 00:51:35.280
out there that have had that encounter
and they've got nobody to share it with

592
00:51:35.440 --> 00:51:45.199
because their initial sharings were discounted absolutely, And you probably experienced that. I

593
00:51:45.320 --> 00:51:49.960
experienced that, My sister experienced that. But I thought, screw it,

594
00:51:50.000 --> 00:51:58.239
I'm gonna keep I'm gonna keep telling
the story because it's true. And yeah,

595
00:51:58.360 --> 00:52:00.920
that is so cool that you're well, you were able to take some

596
00:52:01.079 --> 00:52:06.639
kids out from the school and kind
of open open their eyes to what's really

597
00:52:06.679 --> 00:52:12.039
out there. But you know,
a question I wanted to ask you.

598
00:52:12.039 --> 00:52:15.639
You know, you might have an
interesting viewpoint of this because you have had

599
00:52:15.719 --> 00:52:20.880
that visual you know, face to
face. It's a it's a basic question.

600
00:52:21.079 --> 00:52:24.519
But so what what do you think
Bigfoot is? If you had to

601
00:52:24.559 --> 00:52:37.000
categorize? Well, you hear a
lot of talk about that the spiritually.

602
00:52:37.039 --> 00:52:43.239
I'm a Christian Christian belief and I
believe like us that they are part of

603
00:52:43.280 --> 00:52:47.400
God's creation. Now to what extent
they were created? Some people say,

604
00:52:47.440 --> 00:52:52.639
well, biblically, it's from the
Nephilim and this dead I'm not. I'm

605
00:52:52.679 --> 00:53:00.280
not going to discount that, except
for the only thing that makes me question

606
00:53:00.400 --> 00:53:06.800
that is the neph of them were
fallen angels and demonic and all that stuff,

607
00:53:07.639 --> 00:53:12.480
and these things have been nothing but
nice to me, total the total

608
00:53:12.599 --> 00:53:16.719
opposite of what you'd expect from demons, if you will. All my experience

609
00:53:16.760 --> 00:53:21.440
has been real chill. And I
know people been bluffed by son was bluff

610
00:53:21.480 --> 00:53:23.239
charged once, but I know I
know that's that's out there too, and

611
00:53:23.840 --> 00:53:30.519
but but I've to me that's where
I'm at with it. But I also

612
00:53:30.679 --> 00:53:42.199
know my buddy Tom Cantrell uh said
they're flesh and blood and something else.

613
00:53:43.920 --> 00:53:46.039
There's something else going on with them
too, he says, I don't know

614
00:53:46.079 --> 00:53:51.000
exactly what. And I kind of
agree with you. On that because because

615
00:53:52.280 --> 00:53:57.440
I have it, I don't have
the evidence that they're you know, some

616
00:53:57.440 --> 00:54:00.360
people say, well, they're part
of an alien group, or they just

617
00:54:00.400 --> 00:54:05.079
disappeared a thin air. I haven't
witnessed that. I'm not going to discount

618
00:54:05.119 --> 00:54:09.239
somebody else's story because people discounted mind. I'm just going by what I have

619
00:54:09.400 --> 00:54:16.239
learned in four years. And and
but I do know on three different occasions,

620
00:54:17.280 --> 00:54:23.000
three times in my life have I
seen orbs, And all three of

621
00:54:23.000 --> 00:54:28.880
those times were in the presence of
Bigfoot activity. But I've been in the

622
00:54:28.920 --> 00:54:34.159
presence of Bigfoot activity multiple times where
there were no orbs. So do they

623
00:54:34.199 --> 00:54:39.119
have something to do with each other? They might, you know, but

624
00:54:39.559 --> 00:54:44.760
they don't all the time. So
yeah, I just try to as an

625
00:54:44.880 --> 00:54:52.639
educator, I just try to try
to be common sense about things. Exactly

626
00:54:52.719 --> 00:54:57.440
the orbs that you saw, were
they a certain color or shape or size

627
00:54:57.679 --> 00:55:01.519
or well? The one the one
time, and I got a picture of

628
00:55:01.559 --> 00:55:06.199
it, of the orb and actually
if you blow the orb up, you

629
00:55:06.199 --> 00:55:07.440
see the big foot behind, you
know, right there with the orb.

630
00:55:07.559 --> 00:55:12.679
I got gun on my phone,
I could text it to you, but

631
00:55:13.320 --> 00:55:21.960
the but that was green. The
other two times the orbs were clear black

632
00:55:22.039 --> 00:55:30.920
light bulb like like a white light
like white lights. So it's it's really

633
00:55:30.960 --> 00:55:37.239
interesting, you know. I've gotten
more and more accounts over the last I

634
00:55:37.239 --> 00:55:42.639
would say six months. I think
people are starting to get not as scared

635
00:55:42.920 --> 00:55:49.719
to talk about the ORB thing.
I think it might. I think people

636
00:55:49.719 --> 00:55:53.159
are starting to accept it more.
I think back in the day, they're

637
00:55:53.280 --> 00:55:58.920
you know, yeah, people bring
it and it's and it's like the mind

638
00:55:58.960 --> 00:56:06.840
speak because I've been I've communicated with
them multiple times, but not through mine

639
00:56:06.920 --> 00:56:12.639
speak. I talked, I talk
in English, and they well vocalized back

640
00:56:12.639 --> 00:56:17.920
to me. Sometimes it's a grunt. Sometimes it's a little gibberish. Sometimes

641
00:56:17.920 --> 00:56:22.280
it's just that I might get an
awl call back from him or something like

642
00:56:22.320 --> 00:56:29.519
that or whoop or so, and
then we'll go back and forth. I

643
00:56:29.559 --> 00:56:31.360
don't know that they know what I'm
saying. I don't know what they're saying,

644
00:56:31.400 --> 00:56:35.440
but I can tell that we're on
friendly terms with each other, you

645
00:56:35.480 --> 00:56:45.599
know exactly. But I've got one
of my research guys says that he'd had

646
00:56:45.639 --> 00:56:47.880
some mind speaking activity with him and
told me what they said to him and

647
00:56:49.159 --> 00:56:52.639
told me what he you know,
and I'm like, my first thought four

648
00:56:52.719 --> 00:56:58.440
years ago was you're crazy. But
I don't think that anymore because I've talked

649
00:56:58.440 --> 00:57:02.440
to enough people have had those experiences
that that I think there's something to that.

650
00:57:04.079 --> 00:57:06.840
But I don't think everybody has that
experience I did. I haven't had

651
00:57:06.840 --> 00:57:14.679
that experience, but I've talked to
enough people that have, and and so

652
00:57:15.960 --> 00:57:20.360
you know, I'm not discounting it. And and that's part of that.

653
00:57:20.400 --> 00:57:24.880
There's something else going on, you
know. I've had people that have been

654
00:57:24.960 --> 00:57:30.239
hit with the infra sound that have
told me what that was like. I'd

655
00:57:30.280 --> 00:57:36.800
never been hit with it, so
I can't, you know. And I

656
00:57:36.880 --> 00:57:39.519
was as close to I had one
outside of my tent door one day and

657
00:57:39.559 --> 00:57:42.960
we were on more than five or
six feet apart. It was just a

658
00:57:43.000 --> 00:57:50.960
tent wall separate us. And and
and that was interesting. That was that

659
00:57:51.079 --> 00:57:57.639
was That was two years ago April. Two years ago April, we were

660
00:57:57.639 --> 00:58:01.599
camping, and And and my buddy
Bill and I and he had a friend

661
00:58:01.599 --> 00:58:05.599
who was a total skeptic. The
three of us were camping and we were

662
00:58:05.599 --> 00:58:08.079
in the tent and we hadn't really
had a whole lot. We were,

663
00:58:09.000 --> 00:58:12.719
you know, getting in there for
the night. And it had been raining,

664
00:58:12.800 --> 00:58:16.920
and it had been cloudy, so
the lighting was not good because the

665
00:58:17.119 --> 00:58:22.519
cloud covers keeping the moonlight from being
there. And Bill and I had both

666
00:58:22.559 --> 00:58:30.360
fallen asleep, and the first sound
I heard was a foot crunching gravel.

667
00:58:30.519 --> 00:58:36.559
There was a little gravel drive where
Bill had his truck parked. And when

668
00:58:36.559 --> 00:58:39.280
I heard the foot crunch the gravel, I woke up. And when I

669
00:58:39.320 --> 00:58:45.760
woke up, our skeptical buddy was
sitting up in his cot and he was

670
00:58:45.800 --> 00:58:52.239
on high alert, and he looked
like he was, you know, and

671
00:58:52.480 --> 00:58:58.280
we stayed quiet. Next step crunches
the gravel. Next step crunches the gravel.

672
00:58:59.199 --> 00:59:01.159
We had a tar about in front
of our tent because to keep them

673
00:59:01.199 --> 00:59:06.519
keeping from tracking mud into the tent
because it had been raining. And the

674
00:59:06.559 --> 00:59:09.960
next step is on the tarp,
and the next step is on the tarp,

675
00:59:10.079 --> 00:59:13.599
so he's got two feet in the
tarp. He is right there on

676
00:59:13.599 --> 00:59:16.639
the other side of the tent wall
from us. I know I know what

677
00:59:17.159 --> 00:59:22.800
it is because I've dealt with it. This guy is just on high alert.

678
00:59:22.960 --> 00:59:28.760
He knows that something is out there
walking around on two legs. It's

679
00:59:28.920 --> 00:59:35.159
that that's pretty heavy footed. And
I'm sitting there saying to myself, talk

680
00:59:35.199 --> 00:59:39.000
to it, talk to it,
say something to it. But I was

681
00:59:39.039 --> 00:59:43.960
like, I couldn't, you know, you know what I mean. I'm

682
00:59:44.000 --> 00:59:46.840
like, he's that close. I
I thought, I'm gonna let him make

683
00:59:46.880 --> 00:59:51.280
one more move and then I'm gonna
say something to him. And then he

684
00:59:51.440 --> 00:59:52.679
next thing, you know, two
three steps, he's back into the woods

685
00:59:52.719 --> 01:00:00.559
and gone. And I didn't I
choked. I wanted to talk to say

686
01:00:00.559 --> 01:00:02.719
something, to see what it would
react, how it would do, what

687
01:00:02.800 --> 01:00:07.000
it would you know, And and
I didn't do it anything. Walked into

688
01:00:07.039 --> 01:00:12.400
the woods. It was too late, and and and my buddy Bill is

689
01:00:12.400 --> 01:00:15.360
still snoring. He hadn't woke up
yet. And so I asked the guy,

690
01:00:15.480 --> 01:00:22.159
I said, so, so what
what what do you hear? He

691
01:00:22.199 --> 01:00:24.599
said, Well, he says,
I heard a couple of branches break from

692
01:00:24.599 --> 01:00:30.320
in the woods. That did you
know, sound like somebody broke them.

693
01:00:30.920 --> 01:00:34.679
He goes. The next thing I
know, he goes, it's messing with

694
01:00:34.719 --> 01:00:39.079
things in the back of the truck. Yeah, moving things around, checking

695
01:00:39.119 --> 01:00:44.599
things out in the back of the
truck. He goes. Then I start

696
01:00:44.639 --> 01:00:46.039
coming across the gravel and I thought, that's when I woke up. And

697
01:00:46.079 --> 01:00:50.519
I started coming across the gravel and
then he had experienced everything I experienced,

698
01:00:51.960 --> 01:00:54.679
and I said that that was that
was a that was a big foot.

699
01:00:57.119 --> 01:01:02.440
He came in to visit us,
and this guy's like and of course this

700
01:01:02.519 --> 01:01:07.199
guy went back to his way,
and Bill will say, oh, he

701
01:01:07.400 --> 01:01:10.480
just he just he's putting it out
of his mind. He said, no,

702
01:01:10.599 --> 01:01:15.079
I didn't experience that. That really
didn't happen, but it did.

703
01:01:16.880 --> 01:01:23.039
And I mean, yeah, yeah, that's that's wild. Have you guys

704
01:01:23.119 --> 01:01:36.320
ever heard or experienced zipper noises down
there, like a zip in tense?

705
01:01:36.960 --> 01:01:42.199
Yeah, I haven't. No,
Okay, have you heard of that down

706
01:01:42.239 --> 01:01:47.800
there at all? Well, we
got a young man who is uh well,

707
01:01:49.719 --> 01:01:52.400
he came to our group as a
total skeptic. Come to a couple

708
01:01:52.400 --> 01:01:57.000
of one of our meetings ones you
know Susan advertised these meetings, who you'll

709
01:01:57.039 --> 01:02:05.119
have a quarterly luncheon somewhere, And
he camped with us one night and he

710
01:02:05.159 --> 01:02:09.199
had a little individual, one person
tent that he set up about twenty yards

711
01:02:09.239 --> 01:02:17.599
from the other tents, and he
had the strings and the tent. Okay,

712
01:02:19.400 --> 01:02:30.719
the strings, he said something was
like picking the string like a guitar.

713
01:02:31.199 --> 01:02:38.239
Yeah, ding ding ding at night
overnight, and he didn't. He

714
01:02:38.280 --> 01:02:42.920
said, because I thought maybe just
the wind or the wind's not going to

715
01:02:43.000 --> 01:02:49.039
do that, you know, on
those ten strings. And I said,

716
01:02:49.119 --> 01:02:52.800
probably it's probably a big foot to
come in and because there's no other animals

717
01:02:52.880 --> 01:02:55.119
just gonna sit there and do that
some string while you're in there sleeping.

718
01:02:57.480 --> 01:03:00.000
Based on the things we experienced and
stuff like that, probably it was a

719
01:03:00.000 --> 01:03:06.039
big foot to come into the camp
and it was doing that, And you

720
01:03:06.079 --> 01:03:16.760
know that's that's Yeah, that's the
closest that we've heard. Yeah, it's

721
01:03:16.840 --> 01:03:22.599
it's it's a it's a you know
that they will let you know that that

722
01:03:22.719 --> 01:03:28.760
they're in the area. They'll do
different ways, they'll do different things to

723
01:03:28.840 --> 01:03:37.960
let you know they're in the area, and and so you can you know,

724
01:03:38.079 --> 01:03:40.599
like like in my case, I'm
like, should I unzip the tent

725
01:03:40.679 --> 01:03:45.679
and go out and see this thing? Right? And I'm like, you

726
01:03:45.719 --> 01:03:51.760
know, you know your mind,
You're like, well, how will it

727
01:03:51.840 --> 01:03:54.440
react if you do that? Yeah? Will it? Will it feel that

728
01:03:54.440 --> 01:03:59.639
I'm being aggressive with it? I
mean, I don't want to tangle with

729
01:03:59.719 --> 01:04:02.320
it. I'm not going to win
that If it feels I'm being aggressive with

730
01:04:02.360 --> 01:04:08.360
it is he coming in and doing
this much, but he doesn't want me

731
01:04:08.440 --> 01:04:10.880
to, you know, or do
they actually want me to come out and

732
01:04:10.920 --> 01:04:16.880
have interaction. I don't know the
answer to that at this point. And

733
01:04:16.920 --> 01:04:19.800
that's why that night, I like
I said, I choked, I didn't

734
01:04:19.840 --> 01:04:27.519
do anything, you know, and
let it walk off. But and then

735
01:04:27.719 --> 01:04:31.119
you just, you know, you
just have that regret, like one my

736
01:04:31.400 --> 01:04:39.599
first my first time I went out
in Iowa, and what I was just

737
01:04:39.760 --> 01:04:43.400
I was just so excited and I
was like, you know, texting different

738
01:04:43.400 --> 01:04:46.440
people. I was in my tent
by myself, and uh, I was

739
01:04:46.480 --> 01:04:51.960
texting random people and uh, Shannon
was like, you gotta you gotta do

740
01:04:53.000 --> 01:04:56.119
the baby christ sound just to see
what happens. I'm not going to do

741
01:04:56.159 --> 01:04:58.320
the baby cry sound. And she's
like, just do it, and I

742
01:04:58.360 --> 01:05:00.880
was like, nah, I'm not
gonna do it. I regret. I

743
01:05:00.280 --> 01:05:04.079
wish I would have done it,
because it's like you but that kind of

744
01:05:04.119 --> 01:05:08.960
can set off a lot of things
that can set off actual predators as well,

745
01:05:09.079 --> 01:05:13.280
so maybe want to be careful of
that. But well, you know,

746
01:05:13.559 --> 01:05:15.119
that's why I don't. I try
not to yell and do all that

747
01:05:15.159 --> 01:05:18.920
stuff, you know, I try
not to do that because you don't know

748
01:05:18.960 --> 01:05:24.920
what you're communicating, you don't know
what else you're setting off, you know,

749
01:05:25.159 --> 01:05:30.760
things like that. Bill I mentioned
Bill. Bill and I get camped.

750
01:05:30.280 --> 01:05:36.119
On one occasion. It was just
the two of us and we we're

751
01:05:36.199 --> 01:05:42.719
setting in for the evening for we're
hoping to have some good activity with the

752
01:05:42.760 --> 01:05:48.000
Sasquatches, and about some people pulled
up to hunt coons. They had a

753
01:05:48.039 --> 01:05:54.920
couple, but two three coon hounds
got down in those you know, started

754
01:05:54.920 --> 01:05:57.719
going down in those woods, and
they were in our vicinity, and you

755
01:05:57.719 --> 01:06:04.039
can hear those hounds yep, and
I thought, well, there goes our

756
01:06:04.159 --> 01:06:12.880
night. And I guess at some
point into their coon hunt, we heard

757
01:06:12.920 --> 01:06:21.039
the loudest, the loudest bigfoot roar
that we had ever heard. And I

758
01:06:21.079 --> 01:06:27.360
mean this was you're Ohio, howell
on steroids, if you're if you're right,

759
01:06:27.599 --> 01:06:32.239
if you're there at the time,
and we never heard another yep out

760
01:06:32.239 --> 01:06:36.840
of those coon hounds, and I
was I was kind of get worried.

761
01:06:36.880 --> 01:06:43.079
I thought, these these dogs,
you know, And then about ten minutes

762
01:06:43.119 --> 01:06:45.760
later, you can hear the hunters
throwing these coon dogs in the back of

763
01:06:45.800 --> 01:06:48.719
their truck. And then you're peeling
out of the gravel getting out of there.

764
01:06:50.840 --> 01:06:54.599
And I thought, I wish I
knew who those guys were. I'd

765
01:06:54.599 --> 01:07:00.679
love to talk to him tomorrow and
find out, you know. But and

766
01:07:00.719 --> 01:07:08.039
then my next thought was, I
hope the Bigfoot doesn't associate us with being

767
01:07:08.039 --> 01:07:11.880
the coon hunters, right, because
we're up there in the tent. We're

768
01:07:11.960 --> 01:07:15.840
vulnerable, right, some thinking,
oh, you know, you start praying

769
01:07:15.920 --> 01:07:24.760
that. Yeah, Well, about
an hour later, we hear from out

770
01:07:24.840 --> 01:07:27.599
you know, we're in the tent. It's you know, we're we hear

771
01:07:28.760 --> 01:07:35.559
and this is instance. We hear
a hoodoo immediately followed by a little updown

772
01:07:35.599 --> 01:07:44.800
whistle and then some rock clicking that's
sounded like rock clicking. Whoda uptown whistle,

773
01:07:44.920 --> 01:07:47.119
rock clicking? Who do updown whistle? Rock clicking? And this is

774
01:07:47.159 --> 01:07:53.400
going on, and they're probably about
forty yards from the tent, and we're

775
01:07:53.400 --> 01:07:57.920
hearing that. The bill, I
said, Bill, I said, I

776
01:07:57.960 --> 01:08:04.800
think they're talking to us some way
or another. Bill's a good whistler.

777
01:08:04.880 --> 01:08:10.280
So when they got to the updown
whistle, he replied with an updown whistle.

778
01:08:11.320 --> 01:08:14.679
Then the hoodoo and the rock clicker
quit. They just they started whistling

779
01:08:14.679 --> 01:08:18.039
back and forth to each other,
and this is going on. Yeah,

780
01:08:18.199 --> 01:08:23.880
whistle, whistle, whistle, whistle. And I said, and this is

781
01:08:23.880 --> 01:08:27.840
when I got the guts. I
said, let's let's walk outside the tent.

782
01:08:29.479 --> 01:08:32.920
This is so cool. Let's walk
outside the tent. So we walked

783
01:08:32.920 --> 01:08:36.199
outside the tent and they continued.
He whistled, he whistled, he whistled,

784
01:08:36.199 --> 01:08:40.000
he They go back and forth.
They're down there and they're getting the

785
01:08:40.039 --> 01:08:43.159
trees. And I'm thinking, come
on, you know, just come out

786
01:08:43.199 --> 01:08:49.880
and show yourself to us, and
would do it. And finally the whistling

787
01:08:49.920 --> 01:08:54.399
stopped and they Okay, I guess
they're not going to show themselves to us,

788
01:08:54.399 --> 01:08:59.079
so we so we go back into
the tent, zip it back up,

789
01:08:59.199 --> 01:09:04.479
lay back down. And then once
we're settled into the tent, behind

790
01:09:04.560 --> 01:09:06.680
us, there's a gravel parking lot
and all of a sudden, you can

791
01:09:06.680 --> 01:09:10.800
hear them walking across the gravel park
lot on the other side of our trucks,

792
01:09:11.319 --> 01:09:14.560
step step step, step step step, going off to where they're going,

793
01:09:16.640 --> 01:09:23.760
and and they're they're they're incredible,
they are incredible. That's wild.

794
01:09:27.039 --> 01:09:33.119
Have you heard of any situations You
said something a while back and it made

795
01:09:33.119 --> 01:09:36.800
me think of something. Uh.
And so the question I have is,

796
01:09:39.079 --> 01:09:45.039
have you heard of any situations where
sasquatch has made people's lives miserable in your

797
01:09:45.079 --> 01:10:00.159
area or state? Uh? Yeah, I'll talk about a couple of Like

798
01:10:00.199 --> 01:10:01.520
I said, this is a conservation
area that we go to, and of

799
01:10:01.560 --> 01:10:05.079
course it's surrounded by farms and people
that just have property and want to be

800
01:10:05.079 --> 01:10:08.600
out in the middle of nowhere or
whatever. And there's not a lot of

801
01:10:08.640 --> 01:10:17.000
population up there, twenty miles north
of Cape and these guys, they'll come

802
01:10:17.039 --> 01:10:26.399
in and with there side by sides
and that. And one couple stopped one

803
01:10:26.439 --> 01:10:32.439
time and talking to us, and
he sees me. He says, I've

804
01:10:32.479 --> 01:10:39.119
seen you up here before, now, you know. And we try not

805
01:10:39.199 --> 01:10:44.720
to let them know what we're doing, right. Yeah. And so finally

806
01:10:45.600 --> 01:10:48.880
my buddy asked me if you noticed
anything strange, any weird activity is up

807
01:10:48.880 --> 01:11:02.239
here? No? Okay, well, well they're they're So the guy leaves.

808
01:11:02.359 --> 01:11:09.840
He comes back about thirty minutes later. He says, I had a

809
01:11:09.880 --> 01:11:14.079
great Pyrenees. I found him down
in a hollow on my property, dead

810
01:11:14.119 --> 01:11:21.720
with a broken back. He said, you ask about things strange? He

811
01:11:21.760 --> 01:11:26.960
says, you know, something would
spoot my horses down there at night,

812
01:11:27.079 --> 01:11:31.199
that great parent won't be there their
guard dogs, right, and he goes

813
01:11:31.199 --> 01:11:34.199
he ends up with the broken back
down there. He says he didn't get

814
01:11:34.239 --> 01:11:40.680
hit by a car because the roads
just a little gravel road that nobody ever

815
01:11:40.760 --> 01:11:43.640
travels. I mean, you know
your dog's not gonna get hit by a

816
01:11:43.680 --> 01:11:46.560
car. And you know, he
said it was it would have been down

817
01:11:46.560 --> 01:11:50.640
there in the bottoms. He goes, what would have done that? Because

818
01:11:50.680 --> 01:11:54.399
there's no teeth marks on it.
He goes, there's no scratch marks on

819
01:11:54.399 --> 01:11:57.119
it. There wouldn't been a mountain
lion. You know, we do have

820
01:11:57.199 --> 01:12:01.560
mountain lions there too. I saw
one of couple of years ago. What

821
01:12:01.560 --> 01:12:08.800
would have done that? I said, Well, I said, probably bigfoot.

822
01:12:12.000 --> 01:12:20.119
I said, because whatever the bigfoot
was doing causing the horses to react,

823
01:12:20.199 --> 01:12:23.880
causing the dog to react, they
thought, they don't want their cover

824
01:12:23.960 --> 01:12:30.439
blown, So let's eliminate what's blowing
the cover. Probably a bigfoot they're out

825
01:12:30.439 --> 01:12:43.119
here. He didn't know that.
And another situation, and my son was

826
01:12:42.800 --> 01:12:45.800
he was actually the first one to
find the tracks that first day in December

827
01:12:45.800 --> 01:12:51.159
in twenty nineteen. He's into hunting. He would go up to that same

828
01:12:51.199 --> 01:13:00.640
conservation area in deer hunt and I
remember this, and he knows Bigfoot syrup

829
01:13:00.680 --> 01:13:08.720
there because we had interactions. But
he still go up there and deer other

830
01:13:08.720 --> 01:13:12.079
people deer hunts, not like people. Don't you know, they're not up

831
01:13:12.079 --> 01:13:15.359
there killing hunters, right, and
they know hunters are in the woods.

832
01:13:15.760 --> 01:13:21.760
And when the hunting seasons are,
he tells me. He says, hey,

833
01:13:21.760 --> 01:13:27.720
I'm going to a new place in
the morning. They hadn't been to,

834
01:13:27.880 --> 01:13:31.119
but I think it's a real good
spot to go. I said,

835
01:13:31.159 --> 01:13:34.520
watch you and he he lived here
in Cape at the time. I said,

836
01:13:34.520 --> 01:13:36.640
why why don't you come over and
get me. I'll go out with

837
01:13:36.680 --> 01:13:48.560
you and sit with you. And
next morning I get up. It's about

838
01:13:49.520 --> 01:13:53.199
five forty five in the morning.
I get up, I let the dog

839
01:13:53.279 --> 01:13:59.359
out, and I get a text
digging on my phone and I don't have

840
01:13:59.439 --> 01:14:04.600
my glass on. Oh, Ramsey's
on his way over where. He's a

841
01:14:04.640 --> 01:14:10.560
little late. He should have been
over here thirty minutes ago. Maybe so

842
01:14:10.640 --> 01:14:15.640
I just I ignored the texts that
I started getting dressed. Well. Then

843
01:14:15.920 --> 01:14:21.720
five minutes later the phone's ringing and
I picked the phone up and I said,

844
01:14:23.199 --> 01:14:26.239
I'm just Don Shotley. Where are
you at? Man? And he's

845
01:14:26.800 --> 01:14:34.520
breathing heavily into the phone, and
he's sounds real shook up, and he

846
01:14:34.560 --> 01:14:39.920
says, I'm up here in a
field. I said, oh, you

847
01:14:39.960 --> 01:14:42.560
went up there hunting and you didn't
come over and get me. I thought

848
01:14:42.600 --> 01:14:45.039
you were going to come over and
get me, Dad, I'm up here

849
01:14:45.039 --> 01:14:49.720
in the field. I just got
chased out of the woods. I said,

850
01:14:49.760 --> 01:14:53.079
chased out of the woods by what? He says, You know what,

851
01:14:57.079 --> 01:15:00.640
I said, you should have come
and got me. What would you

852
01:15:00.720 --> 01:15:06.720
have done? I said, I
don't know. I said, he's he's

853
01:15:08.000 --> 01:15:13.920
so, I said, I is
what I said. Come on, I

854
01:15:13.960 --> 01:15:17.000
said, we'll go get some breakfast, talk about this, then we'll go

855
01:15:17.119 --> 01:15:24.239
back up and check things out.
And the area that he went when we

856
01:15:24.319 --> 01:15:30.439
got there, there were it was
there was a game trail Perfect Deer,

857
01:15:30.119 --> 01:15:40.199
Yeah, game trail, and this
area had two arch long thin trees arch

858
01:15:40.319 --> 01:15:45.039
kind of over the game trail,
and you know they'll do those tree arches.

859
01:15:45.039 --> 01:15:47.199
And I don't know if it was
just a sign like it's a good

860
01:15:47.199 --> 01:15:50.239
spot for us, Yeah, yeah, whatever, I just theorize it.

861
01:15:50.319 --> 01:15:54.079
As he went to hunt that morning, where they were where they wanted to

862
01:15:54.199 --> 01:16:00.439
be, and they didn't want him
there, and he didn't. He he

863
01:16:00.520 --> 01:16:03.920
had a little little spotlight head lamp
to get into his place, and pitch

864
01:16:04.079 --> 01:16:09.680
dark, and he couldn't see the
bigfoot, and probably there were two of

865
01:16:09.720 --> 01:16:14.800
them, maybe two of them.
They growled, screamed at him, broke

866
01:16:14.920 --> 01:16:18.760
trees, shook trees, chased him, bluff probably bluff charged him. He

867
01:16:18.800 --> 01:16:25.600
couldn't see. He didn't fire,
as he didn't fire his rifle. And

868
01:16:25.720 --> 01:16:30.119
I've told him, don't shoot unless
you absolutely have to. I said everything

869
01:16:30.199 --> 01:16:33.199
I researched, They will let you
leave the area. Just leave the area

870
01:16:35.000 --> 01:16:39.960
if you run into something like that, I said everything I researched, they'll

871
01:16:40.000 --> 01:16:43.680
let you leave the area. As
soon as he got to the field,

872
01:16:43.680 --> 01:16:45.640
they left him alone. Soon as
he got out of the woods into the

873
01:16:45.680 --> 01:16:50.000
field, they left him alone.
And and you know, we went back

874
01:16:50.039 --> 01:16:54.960
to the spot. I saw some
a couple of eighteen inch footprints in that

875
01:16:55.039 --> 01:16:59.159
area too, I spotted I said, yeah, you know you were you

876
01:16:59.239 --> 01:17:06.680
were wrong place at the wrong time. And and then the next time he

877
01:17:08.640 --> 01:17:13.600
calls, he says, he goes, I really want to hunt that field

878
01:17:13.720 --> 01:17:16.840
back there. He says, but
he said, will you go with me

879
01:17:16.920 --> 01:17:21.279
today? I know you're he you're
not afraid of these things, and I

880
01:17:21.479 --> 01:17:24.439
just feel better if you went with
me. Yeah, I'll go with you.

881
01:17:27.199 --> 01:17:30.000
But he had that experience, he
didn't he didn't like it. He

882
01:17:30.039 --> 01:17:33.439
didn't want to have anything to do
with him. So, yeah, you

883
01:17:33.520 --> 01:17:38.960
know, a lot of accounts I
take it. It just it almost sounds

884
01:17:39.000 --> 01:17:45.399
like they just they want you out
of a certain area. Or yeah,

885
01:17:45.520 --> 01:17:47.680
they just want you out a certain
area, and once you get to out

886
01:17:47.760 --> 01:17:51.720
of that area, they'll they'll kind
of just leave you alone. That's wild.

887
01:17:51.800 --> 01:18:00.119
Though. Have you had any any
conversations or connections with up here we

888
01:18:00.239 --> 01:18:06.239
call him g n R officers or
forestry workers or law enforcement officials about Bigfoot?

889
01:18:08.520 --> 01:18:12.960
Yeah, Missouri Department of Conservation,
you know, their field their field

890
01:18:13.000 --> 01:18:17.000
agents. We were we were up
there one night. We had a little

891
01:18:17.199 --> 01:18:20.920
little you know, they got two
little primitive camp areas up to this conservation

892
01:18:21.000 --> 01:18:25.239
area and were up there and this
is in January, my goodness, a

893
01:18:25.319 --> 01:18:30.760
few years back. And got a
fire going, the spitting snow and you

894
01:18:30.840 --> 01:18:33.680
know, got got a tent.
We were camping, and and there was

895
01:18:33.760 --> 01:18:35.920
four of us up there. At
the time. I think one of one

896
01:18:36.000 --> 01:18:38.840
was the three of us were gonna
camp, one of us gonna what was

897
01:18:38.840 --> 01:18:42.600
gonna go home when he felt like
it. And we're just up there talking

898
01:18:42.680 --> 01:18:54.039
in a game. Warden making his
rounds stops and it comes over to check

899
01:18:54.119 --> 01:18:59.239
us out. Yeah, starts asking
questions. Yeah, he's got to find

900
01:18:59.279 --> 01:19:03.319
out are we up there for?
Do we mean no good or we And

901
01:19:03.439 --> 01:19:06.960
it was two during COVID and I
finally said to him, I said,

902
01:19:08.000 --> 01:19:10.119
I said, I said, look, I said, we're really we're not

903
01:19:10.279 --> 01:19:15.840
hunting. We're not and nobody was
really getting drunk or anything like that,

904
01:19:15.079 --> 01:19:18.720
so we're not. I said,
we just come up here to get away

905
01:19:18.920 --> 01:19:23.279
and be somewhere where we can just
sit down and just visit with each other

906
01:19:23.319 --> 01:19:26.319
without having to put a mask on, without having to worry about social distancing,

907
01:19:26.920 --> 01:19:28.800
without having to do any of that
stuff, just to kind of get

908
01:19:28.800 --> 01:19:32.079
away and just chill and visit with
each other. And he's like, okay,

909
01:19:32.279 --> 01:19:38.920
okay, he says, well,
he says, I feel like though,

910
01:19:39.000 --> 01:19:42.000
I probably better say something to you. Though, he says, there

911
01:19:42.199 --> 01:19:45.760
there could be because I don't have
firsthand knowledge, but there could be bigfoots

912
01:19:45.800 --> 01:19:53.479
in this area. Was there a
Department of Conservation? Hold up, so

913
01:19:53.720 --> 01:19:58.399
did he know you guys were big
footers. When said that, we didn't

914
01:19:58.479 --> 01:20:01.199
mention. We didn't mention what we
were up there doing. Oh, we

915
01:20:01.279 --> 01:20:04.439
didn't want him to know. We
didn't want him to know. I was

916
01:20:04.520 --> 01:20:08.560
like, I was like, we
just someplace we go visit with each other

917
01:20:08.600 --> 01:20:11.399
without having to put a mask on
and social. You'll work, but you'll

918
01:20:11.600 --> 01:20:16.760
just try to be normal. And
when he said that, I said,

919
01:20:16.920 --> 01:20:24.199
what did you say? Oh,
I don't have first ten knowledge. He

920
01:20:24.319 --> 01:20:30.119
said, I'm just telling you from
what some things I've heard, there might

921
01:20:30.279 --> 01:20:34.479
be some in the area. Just
beware. And then my buddy says,

922
01:20:34.840 --> 01:20:43.439
that's why we're here, that's what
we do. And then okay, so

923
01:20:43.520 --> 01:20:46.000
I said, well, so I
showed him some pictures on my phone or

924
01:20:46.079 --> 01:20:49.239
some footprints. I had this one
here. I took that picture three hundred

925
01:20:49.319 --> 01:20:51.560
yards right over there, down by
that old bar, and this one here.

926
01:20:53.159 --> 01:20:55.640
These were cast over here on the
other side off the boat ramp.

927
01:20:55.720 --> 01:21:00.279
You know, different things like that. He's like, whoa, yeah,

928
01:21:00.840 --> 01:21:04.239
yeah, okay, you got the
evidence. Well, we've exchanged contact information

929
01:21:05.920 --> 01:21:09.760
and and I have I've got a
cell number in my in my phone and

930
01:21:10.000 --> 01:21:15.319
he's got mine, and and they're
okay with us going up there in researching.

931
01:21:15.880 --> 01:21:18.920
I sent him with text most recently
of this plaster cast. Our kids

932
01:21:18.960 --> 01:21:24.000
did. Tody what we did,
what we found. He's like, you

933
01:21:24.079 --> 01:21:28.479
know, he's like, that's awesome. And and then we had another conservation

934
01:21:28.640 --> 01:21:34.399
agent. He said, oh,
he says, well, he goes,

935
01:21:34.439 --> 01:21:36.720
if you want to check out other
places, he gave us a couple of

936
01:21:36.720 --> 01:21:40.640
other wildlife areas in southeast Missouri.
You can go there. You can go

937
01:21:40.760 --> 01:21:48.159
there, he goes, they're there
too now, but now the state of

938
01:21:48.279 --> 01:21:57.520
Missouri says they don't exist. Well, the narrative of the Missouri Department of

939
01:21:57.560 --> 01:22:02.279
Conservation is it's a mythological creature that
does not exist. But these two field

940
01:22:02.359 --> 01:22:12.560
agents say, oh yeah, be
careful. And the one guy who said

941
01:22:12.560 --> 01:22:15.159
to me, he says, because
it floors me that you guys actually spend

942
01:22:15.199 --> 01:22:20.479
the night out there in your tents, know to what's out there. And

943
01:22:20.560 --> 01:22:24.640
I told him, I said,
they have they have not been harmful to

944
01:22:24.800 --> 01:22:30.760
us. They showed us nothing but
peacefulness, and and and you know,

945
01:22:33.119 --> 01:22:38.920
hm hmm. So it's awesome that
you've got some guys on the inside like

946
01:22:39.039 --> 01:22:44.479
that that are on a talking basis
with you. That's so cool. But

947
01:22:44.920 --> 01:22:48.279
but but these sasquatches that they have
got, they are very disciplined. They

948
01:22:48.399 --> 01:22:55.079
got a sophistication with their with their
units, call them claims or family units,

949
01:22:55.119 --> 01:22:57.880
whatever you want to call them.
I mean, I'll sit up there

950
01:22:58.079 --> 01:23:00.840
at that parking lot, I said, at parking lot during deer season,

951
01:23:02.880 --> 01:23:08.560
and you know the firearm deer season, which is which is you know state

952
01:23:08.640 --> 01:23:15.720
holiday probably in your state, my
state, right the the and when the

953
01:23:15.920 --> 01:23:23.039
hunter comes out of the woods onto
the gravel parking lot about seventy yards off

954
01:23:23.079 --> 01:23:29.279
the way, you hear whoa.
Ten minutes later, next hunter runs out,

955
01:23:29.520 --> 01:23:34.960
comes out, whoa. These hunters
are oblivious to it. They act

956
01:23:35.079 --> 01:23:42.920
like what's mag what's But you have
a sasquatch watching the parking lot, hunter

957
01:23:43.039 --> 01:23:46.680
out, hunter out. They know
exactly how many cars are parked, how

958
01:23:46.720 --> 01:23:49.880
many people down there hunting when the
last hunter gets out of the woods,

959
01:23:49.880 --> 01:23:56.760
and when they can go start roaming. That's how sophisticated of a system they've

960
01:23:56.800 --> 01:24:00.760
got going. And if they've got
to go on in k Gerudal County,

961
01:24:00.800 --> 01:24:04.520
they've got to going all over the
country. Absolutely that's how they thrive and

962
01:24:04.840 --> 01:24:09.079
and that's how they thrive and survive. And that's how people hunt without knowing

963
01:24:09.079 --> 01:24:14.199
they're out there. Yeah, I
mean it reminds me of what the Olympic

964
01:24:14.279 --> 01:24:19.279
Project on Washington says, you know, Chris Spencer, Shane Corson. They

965
01:24:19.359 --> 01:24:24.920
say that you're going to catch a
lot of stuff when you get right out

966
01:24:24.920 --> 01:24:29.000
of your vehicles, So you better
have a sound recorder going because that's when

967
01:24:29.039 --> 01:24:30.760
you're going to hear like, oh, they're back again. You know,

968
01:24:32.439 --> 01:24:36.319
it's crazy, you know. And
they've got there what do you call them,

969
01:24:36.760 --> 01:24:40.840
day watchers whever you want to call
them. They are transitioned at certain

970
01:24:40.880 --> 01:24:45.359
areas, and you know, and
they're going to keep an eye on things

971
01:24:47.279 --> 01:24:53.920
and and and but they they they've
got that going on, and they and

972
01:24:54.000 --> 01:24:58.239
they learned to coexist with the hunters, and that's that's why they're you know.

973
01:25:01.039 --> 01:25:04.159
And I tell the hunters, well, like my son is, you're

974
01:25:04.159 --> 01:25:08.600
not going to shoot your way out
of it unless you absolutely have to,

975
01:25:09.720 --> 01:25:14.199
I said. But at the same
time, they know that you've got a

976
01:25:14.279 --> 01:25:15.239
gun, so they don't want you
to shoot your way out of it,

977
01:25:16.479 --> 01:25:26.359
you know. Yeah, absolutely to
the side if there's a conservation officer DNR

978
01:25:26.520 --> 01:25:30.640
or whatever, you'd be labeled in
your state, and you know about bigfoot,

979
01:25:30.760 --> 01:25:33.319
you had an experience and you want
to reach out, you can reach

980
01:25:33.359 --> 01:25:38.000
out to me Bigfoot Society at gmail
dot com. Even if it's just to

981
01:25:38.199 --> 01:25:42.039
chat off air and off record.
That I have no problem with that.

982
01:25:42.279 --> 01:25:45.520
I talk to a lot of people
off record. But Mike, have you

983
01:25:46.279 --> 01:25:54.399
have you heard of any situations where
it could be like a bigfoot related to

984
01:25:55.720 --> 01:25:59.279
like a missing four one one type
thing, or like you could have been

985
01:25:59.399 --> 01:26:03.119
responsible for a person that was missing
or anything like that. They had a

986
01:26:03.279 --> 01:26:11.880
situation about a year and a half
ago down here in southeast Missouri where a

987
01:26:11.960 --> 01:26:17.600
deer hunter went missing and he was
down He was from Sikeston, which is

988
01:26:17.680 --> 01:26:23.399
thirty miles south of me, but
he was over in a Mark Twain area

989
01:26:23.800 --> 01:26:30.479
over in east probably west of Poplar
Bluff down there around the Current River in

990
01:26:30.560 --> 01:26:40.439
that area, and he went missing
and they found him dead a couple days

991
01:26:40.479 --> 01:26:51.760
later when they went when he went
missing, here's here's here's what's strange about

992
01:26:51.800 --> 01:27:02.760
this. They searched the area and
they found his rifle and he wasn't there

993
01:27:06.800 --> 01:27:12.479
when they the next day as they're
searching the area. His body was back

994
01:27:12.560 --> 01:27:18.640
at the place where they found his
rifle, and a lot of people,

995
01:27:19.520 --> 01:27:25.680
you know, speculating bigfoot got him, bigfoot got him, bigfoot got him.

996
01:27:28.319 --> 01:27:32.720
And my theory on that was,
I don't think so. I don't

997
01:27:32.760 --> 01:27:35.840
know what got him. But he
may just had a he made, just

998
01:27:36.199 --> 01:27:42.079
he made, just had a heart
attack. And you know, I don't

999
01:27:42.119 --> 01:27:48.079
know what caused his death. They
may have something, may have taken him

1000
01:27:48.119 --> 01:27:51.399
somewhere because he wasn't there where the
rifle was at. I don't know why

1001
01:27:51.399 --> 01:28:00.880
he would have left his rifle to
go, you know, And when they

1002
01:28:01.000 --> 01:28:06.640
found the body where the rifle was
the next day, my guess is it

1003
01:28:06.840 --> 01:28:11.359
possibly a big foot brought him back
to that spot knowing they were going to

1004
01:28:11.479 --> 01:28:15.479
look, you know, that that's
an area they were looking because the last

1005
01:28:15.560 --> 01:28:25.159
thing the Sasquatch wants is a bunch
of law enforcement officials scoring through their territory.

1006
01:28:27.079 --> 01:28:32.520
I would think so they I'm thinking
my theory is they brought the body

1007
01:28:32.600 --> 01:28:35.960
back. There's your body. I
don't know what caused it. Maybe they

1008
01:28:36.039 --> 01:28:39.640
did, maybe they did, Maybe
he was ready to shoot. I don't

1009
01:28:39.720 --> 01:28:43.239
know if it was, If it
was Bigfoot that got him or not.

1010
01:28:43.840 --> 01:28:46.399
I had it had heard me all
the details since then on, that's been

1011
01:28:46.479 --> 01:28:54.880
kind of hushed up, right,
But but so so it's it's it's it's

1012
01:28:54.920 --> 01:28:58.960
sketchy. You know, nobody really
knows for sure. But somehow that body

1013
01:28:59.039 --> 01:29:00.319
got back to where that gun was
that it wasn't there the day before.

1014
01:29:01.520 --> 01:29:08.359
That's a tricky situation, for sure. You hear in Oklahoma a lot of

1015
01:29:08.800 --> 01:29:15.439
there's a few instances of you know, bigfoot trying to get into houses or

1016
01:29:15.239 --> 01:29:18.479
becoming extremely aggressive. Is that a
thing that you guys have to deal with

1017
01:29:18.720 --> 01:29:26.359
down in southeast Missouri? Ever,
I haven't heard of that. Now.

1018
01:29:26.439 --> 01:29:32.800
I have heard knocking on the walls, knocking on the windows. I had

1019
01:29:32.840 --> 01:29:35.960
a lady on one of my podcasts. She gets from over to Springfield area,

1020
01:29:36.000 --> 01:29:42.960
north of Springfield, and she said
that there's one that I mean,

1021
01:29:43.000 --> 01:29:45.720
he's at her bedroom window every night
between two and three in the morning,

1022
01:29:45.800 --> 01:29:51.279
tapping on it. I said,
you're not going out to see what he

1023
01:29:51.359 --> 01:29:58.760
wants? She goes, no,
no, no, this is every day.

1024
01:29:58.800 --> 01:30:00.279
And I said, put up perimner
game cans. They'll they'll stay away

1025
01:30:00.279 --> 01:30:09.680
from there. But but the but
I've heard of that. I heard of

1026
01:30:09.760 --> 01:30:15.039
that that that, you know,
things like that, peeking in the windows,

1027
01:30:15.399 --> 01:30:18.479
kno gonna, I haven't heard of. I haven't heard of one trying

1028
01:30:18.520 --> 01:30:26.119
to get in the house though,
not a personal story from anybody. I've

1029
01:30:26.159 --> 01:30:30.640
read some encounters. I read some
counters where maybe they've they perhaps did in

1030
01:30:30.760 --> 01:30:34.840
that. So even over at the
place where I go in Madison County,

1031
01:30:34.880 --> 01:30:38.479
they've gone up to the house.
They haven't they haven't tried to get in

1032
01:30:38.560 --> 01:30:43.560
the house. So they've gone up
close to the houses. Yeah, they've

1033
01:30:43.640 --> 01:30:45.760
they've been up to the they've been
up to the porch, you know,

1034
01:30:45.880 --> 01:30:47.439
but they have been in they tried
to get in the house or been in

1035
01:30:47.479 --> 01:30:51.239
the house. So they're like getting
up to the porch, but not quite

1036
01:30:51.560 --> 01:30:59.720
crossing that point because they not crossing
that. That could happen someday, but

1037
01:31:00.199 --> 01:31:02.880
that's because they're wild, because they've
had gifts left for them on the porch

1038
01:31:03.039 --> 01:31:06.399
right there outside the oh really just
just you know, they come up and

1039
01:31:08.319 --> 01:31:14.279
leave a gift in return for the
food they're getting or something else. So

1040
01:31:15.279 --> 01:31:19.199
exactly, do you know anything about
a place called Marley Woods down in Missouri

1041
01:31:20.119 --> 01:31:26.399
called what it's called Marley Woods,
Marley Woods. Yeah, they was just

1042
01:31:26.479 --> 01:31:30.039
shot in the dark. It's a
you know, skinwalker ranch out in Utah.

1043
01:31:30.640 --> 01:31:33.760
Yeah, I've heard of it.
So supposedly there's a version of that

1044
01:31:34.000 --> 01:31:40.439
somewhere in Missouri where it's like a
lot of UFO stuff but also some bigfoot

1045
01:31:40.920 --> 01:31:45.119
type thing. It would have to
be it would have to be over in

1046
01:31:45.159 --> 01:31:47.960
the Olzark side, yes, although
yeah, I would guess too. Yeah,

1047
01:31:48.199 --> 01:31:55.880
we we. You know, I
had a guy that's he's doing a

1048
01:31:55.960 --> 01:32:02.680
documentary on the this Grand Tower or
UFO thing from about fifty years ago over

1049
01:32:02.760 --> 01:32:10.800
in southern Illinois, which is a
big buddy area across where we researched and

1050
01:32:11.720 --> 01:32:16.279
and we we saw what I'm just
going to say it was a UFO because

1051
01:32:16.319 --> 01:32:19.720
we couldn't identify it as anything else
in the sky one night when we were

1052
01:32:19.840 --> 01:32:26.720
up there and that thing was doing
all kinds of things that that aren't on

1053
01:32:26.920 --> 01:32:32.079
any aircraft that we know anything about, and and so we just so he'd

1054
01:32:32.119 --> 01:32:35.560
found out he wouldn't know, I
couldn't. He was down to doing some

1055
01:32:35.640 --> 01:32:39.560
interviews. I was out of town
when he did that. But the he's

1056
01:32:39.600 --> 01:32:43.000
putting his documentary together. My buddies, I think interviewed with him. But

1057
01:32:43.880 --> 01:32:45.920
the but I did talk to him
on the phone. I said, that's

1058
01:32:45.960 --> 01:32:49.039
what I saw. I said,
I can't tell you that it was related

1059
01:32:49.079 --> 01:32:51.840
to aliens or not, but I
did see something in the sky that was

1060
01:32:51.960 --> 01:32:59.399
not a normal thing in the sky. And so but that stuff is,

1061
01:33:00.720 --> 01:33:03.640
yeah, that stuff is, you
know. And and if, like I

1062
01:33:03.720 --> 01:33:08.960
said, if Bigfoot is real,
and bigfoot is in the abundance that they

1063
01:33:09.000 --> 01:33:14.520
are in in this country, which
I believe, if they were recognized there's

1064
01:33:14.680 --> 01:33:19.680
more than enough, they would not
be on an endangered species list. And

1065
01:33:19.960 --> 01:33:24.199
nobody knows about that. And I'm
not gonna I'm not gonna say these other

1066
01:33:24.239 --> 01:33:28.840
things aren't really to do. There's
no telling ones out there. So I

1067
01:33:28.920 --> 01:33:33.760
got one last question for you.
You know, you're hearing a lot of

1068
01:33:34.720 --> 01:33:41.279
accounts and stories in your your corner, Missouri. Do you ever hear any

1069
01:33:41.840 --> 01:33:53.279
accounts or sightings of non bigfoot creatures
in the area. I haven't heard anything

1070
01:33:53.399 --> 01:33:59.680
related in our area to dog Man. Probably the closest thing related to that

1071
01:34:00.079 --> 01:34:04.119
out, I mean, what's his
name put out a documentary recently. My

1072
01:34:04.279 --> 01:34:15.039
friend Miguel was sasquatch theory about it. A dog Man siding over to the

1073
01:34:15.119 --> 01:34:26.680
west of us Mark Twain area.
Again the the somebody reported a couple of

1074
01:34:26.760 --> 01:34:33.159
years ago and they described and this
was like right in Cape Girardo. They

1075
01:34:33.319 --> 01:34:38.000
just what they described as far as
the creature is probably the closest thing we

1076
01:34:38.079 --> 01:34:45.039
would call it would be the moth
man, really big old batman type thing

1077
01:34:45.159 --> 01:34:48.640
flying a you know. And they
said there are two different sidings within about

1078
01:34:48.640 --> 01:34:54.239
a month of each other, and
the Cape Girardo city limits on the outskirts

1079
01:34:54.319 --> 01:35:04.039
of it. And I'd heard about
that but didn't follow up on it because

1080
01:35:09.560 --> 01:35:14.199
you know, but who knows in
how long ago was that? You said

1081
01:35:14.199 --> 01:35:16.279
a few years. That's probably about
three years by about three years ago probably,

1082
01:35:16.720 --> 01:35:19.560
I mean that's probably about three years. Well, I hadn't heard anything

1083
01:35:19.640 --> 01:35:24.000
since then, but I did hear
it too, in the same region,

1084
01:35:24.039 --> 01:35:30.800
with about the same month of each
other. And and I I didn't I

1085
01:35:30.920 --> 01:35:33.880
didn't know. I didn't get any
names. I just heard about it.

1086
01:35:35.399 --> 01:35:39.600
So, you know, I thought, you know, I'm diving into bigfoot.

1087
01:35:39.720 --> 01:35:43.880
I don't have time to dive into
everything. That's the thing. Right

1088
01:35:44.039 --> 01:35:47.720
when you start focusing on big faces, like you don't have time for anything

1089
01:35:48.039 --> 01:35:51.640
anything else. Yeah, you know, and I get it, and so

1090
01:35:54.399 --> 01:35:59.560
ah, Mike, it has been. It's really fun time chatting with it.

1091
01:35:59.680 --> 01:36:03.399
You are a wealth of knowledge about
Bigfoot in general and especially in your

1092
01:36:03.520 --> 01:36:09.000
corner Missouri. Such a fun time. So thank you for coming on.

1093
01:36:09.439 --> 01:36:13.239
I appreciate that. I appreciate you
inviting me. I know we first contacted

1094
01:36:13.279 --> 01:36:17.800
about seven or eight months ago about
this this and finally got together. And

1095
01:36:17.880 --> 01:36:23.600
I've enjoyed my time. I've enjoyed
sharing what I've experienced, and hopefully your

1096
01:36:23.640 --> 01:36:30.720
audience gains a better understanding as well. Hopefully they enjoyed it. So absolutely

1097
01:36:30.760 --> 01:36:33.600
can do you mind taking a few
minutes how people can if there's any way

1098
01:36:33.760 --> 01:36:39.279
to keep up to date with what
you're doing, how to contact you if

1099
01:36:39.840 --> 01:36:45.600
if they have reports in your area, the Cape Girardo County, Missouri,

1100
01:36:45.800 --> 01:36:49.640
all that good stuff. Okay,
Yeah, my email address is really easy.

1101
01:36:49.720 --> 01:36:57.399
It's all one word. Understanding Bigfoot
at gmail dot com. I am

1102
01:36:57.520 --> 01:37:02.840
with the Facebook page. I'm on
Facebook as Mike Scott. I'm on Facebook.

1103
01:37:03.079 --> 01:37:10.319
I'm a part of the SEMO Southeast
Missouri Bigfoot Encrypted Research Group on the

1104
01:37:10.359 --> 01:37:15.279
Facebook page. They're welcome to join
that and get on that and then kind

1105
01:37:15.319 --> 01:37:18.640
of keep up with what's going on
in Southeast Missouri and they can contact us

1106
01:37:18.680 --> 01:37:26.079
directly through that as well. Those
are the easiest ways. I hop on

1107
01:37:26.640 --> 01:37:30.760
the Grizzlies on the Hunt podcast on
Wednesday nights most Wednesday nights at eight o'clock,

1108
01:37:30.880 --> 01:37:38.079
and on his channel as a panelist, and so I'm out there.

1109
01:37:40.000 --> 01:37:43.439
Love it, good stuff, Mike, Thank you so much for coming on.

1110
01:37:43.560 --> 01:37:45.680
No, thank you, I really
appreciate it. You've got a great

1111
01:37:45.720 --> 01:37:50.000
show and I'm glad I've got to
be a part of it. So I

1112
01:37:50.119 --> 01:37:54.800
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