Intense Bigfoot Encounters of Southeast Missouri with Mike Scott!

0:00 Welcome to the Bigfoot Society. In this episode, I talked to Mike Scott about his multiple years of bigfoot research and encounters in southeast Missouri. If you've experienced something similar to what Mike has, or have more information regarding Bigfoot or other cryptids in the same area, please reach out immediately to me after this episode. If you've had an encounter and you'd like to be on the show, please contact me directly at bigfot Society at gmail dot com, and also make sure you check out Bigfoot Society podcast dot com, where you can become a member and get extra episodes weekly. All right, big for Society, You've got the privilege of talking to Mike Scott tonight. He's an individual that's had a few interesting things happen to him down in Missouri regarding Bigfoot. But how's it going, Mike? It's going real good. Uh. I just appreciate you having me on. Looking forward to the evening absolutely well, Mike, let's get right into it. I know you've got some interesting things to share, so I'm going to go ahead and give the floor right over to you and share with us what you've experienced so far. If you don't mind.

1:07 Well, my journey with this started in December of twenty nineteen. That's as far as the journey of finding my first pieces of Bigfoot evidence, and it kind of goes back before then. I'm fifty fifty eight years old, so i'd have been fifty four probably at that point, somewhere around there. But I remember at age twelve checking out a book from the library and reading it called on the Track of Bigfoot and that you know that stuff. You know, that was published probably in the mid seventies, so that kind of covered things up to that point what they knew. Carl Krue or Jerry Crewe in the Footprints, Patterson Gimlin, things like that, and I thought, this is kind of cool. It's a cool subject. There's probably some to do this, but it seems like everything is up in the Pacific Northwest, and I just left it at that. Then you get busy, you're playing sports in high school and going to college and getting on with your family and things like that. Totally ignored and forgot about anything Bigfoot. It never crossed my mind again until these cable TV shows started coming out, you know, Monster Quest that was that was one of the first ones I started watching uh, you know, Finding Bigfoot, and they you know, you watch those shows and they're made for TV, their Hollywood entertainment. But then you're thinking

2:40 that everybody is lying about this stuff. There's got to be something to this, you know, these guys really getting on TV and making these stories up. And and so had had an interest peaqued. And then when my youngest of two kids, my son, when he got through playing college baseball, and you know, we were just a sports family, were you know, daughter of swim meets his baseball games. You know that all that stuff got done. He wanted to continue to have a hobby that we could do together, and he suggested hunting and fishing and things. You know, we didn't do a lot of that because we were always doing the team sports and things.

3:23 So I said, yeah, cool, let's do that. And in my in my county, Cape Girardo County, Cape Gerardo, Missouri is where I live. We're about one hundred miles south of Saint Louis on the Mississippi River, the big conservation area the north part of the county. I said, well, that's public land. Let's go up there get the hunt licenses. And you know, you're a little shooting go up there and check it out for some squirrel hunting. And came across a set of footprints December twenty nineteen. These prints for seventeen and a half inches long. They were about eight inches at the whitest part. They had about a five foot stride length.

4:09 We saw about four or five steps. We saw right foot, left foot, right foot, left foot, and you could clearly make that out toes. And it just floored me that I was looking at that, and my son even knew what we were looking at. You know, you just you do the math. No, who has feet that big in December in Missouri. It's going to be walking barefoot, nobody. We're both he's six six, I'm six five. We both wear size fifteen shoes, and it just swallowed our boots up, and I'm like, it's got to be bigfoot.

4:51 But who would have thought right here? Who would have thought right here in Cape Girardal County. I never would have thought that, Never to believe that. And fast forward that was December twenty nineteen. Well, what happened in March of twenty twenty COVID they shut everything down. They closed my work down. I work at a high school. I teach high school. I'm athletic director at an area of high school. They closed us down. You couldn't go anywhere. Everything's closed. They can't keep me from going to the woods. So I started going to that same conservation area over and over again and looking around, you know, and every time I would go, I would see more bigfoot evidence. And then bring a friend, you know, get a couple of friends involved. There's three or four of us now doing this, and we're going up there. You know. You go up there, and then after a while, as you see the evidence, you hear the whoops. You know. I guess if you're there enough times, they kind of recognize who you are, and then they start reaching out and making some kind of communications. Let you know where they're at. You know, this one's up on that ridge. That one's up on that ridge. Hey, I got three of them watching me right now. I better get out of here, get to the car, leave curiosity. Come back. After two or three times that, I'm thinking, Okay, they're not going to hurt me, or they would have done it. So you just keep doing a little bit more. And then we decided, hey, let's a couple

6:26 primitive camp sites up there. Let's camp out, pitch a tent, stay overnight. And I remember the first the first few times we did that. You get all these you know, and we did that. We bought all the spotlights, the game cams, night visions, all that stuff, set up a perimeter game cams, and we'd get nothing, and we get nothing, but we knew they were there because we'd hear them in the distance. And then as I started getting into these social media bigfoot networks, you hear other people talk about maybe they've tried a little bit differently. So I told one of my buddies one time, let's just put all the cameras up.

7:23 Let's just put all that up. Let's just us and whatever comes in nothing, nothing lightwise, but a campfire. And it was then when they started paying us closer visits. And that's when, you know, that's when we started having some real cool moments and some interactions, and you know, you communicate back and forth with one you know, there was one that I've got to wear. When I would go out there for about a six month period, we would actually verbally communicate back and forth with each other. I think it was a female. She'd stay in the tree line. She wouldn't come out and expose herself, but we had that verbal communication going and that went on once a month for about six straight months, and the communication would last sometimes ten fifteen minutes, and then you know, then she'd go on her way. And so we had some real neat experiences and still later on I'll share my latest experience with which is just awesome, but the up there.

8:37 And then I got to know some folks that had some stuff going on on their property two counties away and started working with them. And that's just been in the last year, in two or three months that we've been doing that, and I actually actually had my first good sighting at their place. My first good sighting was back in December this year. And that's when you that's when, Okay, everything that you've studied, everything that you've interacted with, everything that you've dealt with in four years now has finally come to tuition Where I'm sitting there looking in the eye of a Sasquatch it about forty yards and no mistake in what you're looking at, and probably we probably looked at each other for about fifteen seconds. And I never felt any fear because I've been waiting for this for four years. You know, I've been in amongst them for four years, and plus we run the private property where the family has a relationship with them. So I felt like, you know, this is cool, This is so cool. You've exposed yourself to me and let me see you, and I think this is so cool. Now. He just kind of told him that, and after about fifteen seconds he gets kind of turned around and mosey back into the woods. He'd probably had to be about ten foot tall. The head and the shoulders are so massive. You know, I'm six' five, a little north of three hundred pounds, and it was just it were three times of me at the head and shoulders.

10:11 It was really really crazy. So I have a few questions about the whole It sounds almost like a habituation type deal going on. There a few counties over from where you're at, which I want listeners to realize that. So Cape Girardo, Missouri is in the southeast corner, so you're very close to southern Illinois Little Egypt area. Correct, We're real close to the Little Egypt area. The place that we researched in North Cape County. The conservation area is really right across the Mississippi River from the Big Muddy River. And everybody has heard of the Big Muddy monstery southern Illinois, so you know the Big Buddy. Where we go, it's about twenty miles north of Cape, the north side of the county, and the Big Money is just across the Mississippi River. And then we're in the Missouri side, and you know, there's plenty of plenty of sasquatches up there on both sides of the river. So the that's the other thing I found out is there there are a lot more of these out there than people can imagine, because exactly just in my four

11:45 years where we go in North Cap, just North Cape County, a lot that one conservation area, I've seen every size footprint increment from ten inches to twenty four inches. I've seen ten inch footprints, eleven inch, twelve inch, thirteen fourteen, all the way up to twenty four inches. And and I can take anybody there's two places up there. I can take anybody up there on any given day and almost guarantee we'll find footprints because it's it's travel ways for and wow, that's that's incredible. So the habituation area so I'm curious right off the bat, what kind of you said that they are having some kind of interactions or is it a gifting type situation, or what a type of interactions is this family having with the Sasquatch on this property. Okay, those guys, those guys, they've got a farm, they've got a little you know, they grow some produce. They've got some greenhouses they've and it started with them that the Sasquatch was coming and raiding the greenhouses. They didn't know what it was at first, and they thought people were doing that.

13:15 Well, we're going to get those people. You know, we're going to sit traps, you know, we're gonna Well then they find out it's not people, or it could be people, depending on how you viewed the Sasquatch, but they so. And the one of the young men with the family that kind of reached out of one of the Facebook groups like hey, I got some stuff going on here, and a couple of carter carter brushard contacted them. I got with them and the built a relationship with them and made my first visit out on their property about a year ago January, and I suggested in addition to what they have because they learned to share their vegetation with the with the Sasquatch family that's under And I kind of suggested, I said, look, I said, you got two options here. You can run them off and they could turn it right back around and make your life miserable very much so, or you could learn to live with them. And and the neat thing was that they were that the Sasquatch wasn't taking all their stuff. They're just taking portions of it anyway, and they still had a fruitful farm. And then I suggested, in addition to what they're doing, we set up a gifting bucket and try a gifting program. So and then

14:46 we did. We start that last January. And I'd just get the bucket and put the bucket up there at the edge of the woods there and you know, put apples in it and peanut butter, jar peanut butter, you know, you know, things of that nature, and started getting some mine rest. You know. They of course, they really enjoyed the apples, and they didn't get apples at the farm. They enjoyed the peanut butter. But they would take here's the things we started noticing. They would take the peanut butter jar, take it back to the camp or wherever it is they stayed. And then when the peanut butter jar was empty and done, they'd bring it back and set it back in the bucket, and we'd put some of those little sweet and salty granola bars on there. They would tear open the wrapper, take them out of the wrapper, and then they would either put the wrapper back in the bucket or they'd stick it up there in a nearby tree limb, just so we could see it so they're not littering the forest. And then we come back up and check either them or me.

15:58 We gather up the rappers. They're all right there, and you know, and properly trash them. They leave little glyphs for us. And one glyph was in the shape of a human stick figure, and and and and it had very positive interactions, of course they were I'd go up once every three or four weeks to fill the bucket and visit them, and and they you know I wasn't seeing them, They would see him. They would have had the interactions with them. They worked the farm every day and one of the I think the oldest kid in the big Foot group would would and he was probably about seven foot tall. He would come down and shadow him and watch him work the farm, and curious, and you know, they're working the farm and looking over their shoulder, and there's you know, Junior Bigfoot or whatever you want to call him, you know, about twenty yards away watching them. And and this kind of stuff went on with them, and they got to where they were fairly comfortable with each other. And and but when I would go up, I wouldn't see him. I'd see all the evidence.

17:10 And then and then went up, did a couple overnights that just a couple of night times, spent the night up, but still didn't hear her them, didn't still but didn't. Finally, it was December when I was filling the bucket up. In December is when finally the one exposed itself to where I could see one one of them in the in the in that family and the one of the farm owners had seen him up there in the woods and was talking to him, and I said, do you see you know, I'm finishing the bucket and she says, yeah, she says, come over and take a look. And I went over and took a look, and sure enough, and she said there were two other the younger ones with him, but they had gone into hiding by the time I got over there, and he was you know, we just sat there and looked, you know, about forty yards away, and I said some real nice things to him, so I hope you appreciate, you know, the treats, and then you know, there for you guys, and he just kind of swayed that head back and forth a little bit and about fifteen seconds just turned just kind of walked back in wherever the young ones went, I guess, following him back into the woods. So I guess he's coming to say, hey, you know, thanks for the thanks for the treats. I don't know, so like, there's been so many years that you were getting into the subject and then you finally have a visual you know, sighting which everyone wants to have that, and you know, how did how did that affect you

18:41 emotionally during that moment? Were what were you feeling inside when you're like, I'm actually finally able to look at one. I I just felt, I mean, my feeling was this is so cool, you know, and I have at this point, I've it's been a four year journey for me to get to this point, now, I had seen one evening that I know was a bigfoot, but I couldn't just I mean, it looked like a real dark shadow hopping from behind one tree to behind another tree at about twenty five yards during the evening hours when it was almost you know, pitch dark, and I could see that. And then another time over in Madison County at the farm, I saw one peeking around a tree at about seventy yards, just kind of you see the head pop. I didn't even recognize it till I saw the start seeing the movement because they pointed out, yeah, there is up there, there is up to where I don't see anything but tree. They said, you see that, you like a little bulge coming out, go back in, But never a good siding to that moment.

20:03 And it was that moment I thought, this is just so cool, you know. Was there anything that surprised you about what you were looking at? Any details that were like, wow, this is a lot. This is different than what I was expecting than what I've seen in pictures. I didn't realize, you know, they call him bigfoot for a reason. I've seen the prints up to twenty four inches. This one's Prince were about twenty inches that I've seen multiple times, which probably about ten foot tall, and the massive size of that head no neck going down into the shoulders, and the conical over the head was very exposed to. I just didn't realize the width and the size were just that big. It's just, you know, even though you hear well ten foot tall, eight hundred pounds or whatever, it just seeing it brings that the light that these things are really really huge.

21:15 And that's what you know, no flab on them at all, you know, everything is just solid build, body build. So that's that's interesting. So yeah, I guess go into that a little bit more so. I'm guessing there was some hair on the creature. But yeah, are you saying that you could see things a seat under the hair as well? No, Because it was in the shade of the forest at about forty I could see the dark hair, and I could see some of the facial features, like you know, the eyes and the nose that and you can see what's kind of have a lot of hair on that area, but the rest of it you just see because he was on he was on all fours at the time, and I could see him from about to chest up, so I didn't really see the legs or the length of the arms. But even on all fours, he was almost looking me in the eye. And I'm six foot five. And when he turned around and started, he stayed on all fours, I could see the back of I could see down he had a little silverish spot on his back, which they always told me they called him silver Back because of that. And I could notice that is it lightened up on the backside as he went in behind the So so that was but it was

22:45 just it was just so cool looking at that And I didn't think. I thought, well, I just wanted to just observed him. I didn't walk in toward him. I didn't you know, some people may have run toward him to try to get a better look. I thought, I'm going to respect the situation and and appreciate the situation. What what's the closest you think they've gotten to silver Back on that property, since there's, uh, there's a habituation situation going on, the closest they got to the silver Back is probably that close. Uh it's it's the kid, his kid, the one that's about he is about he's probably he's probably about eight foot tall by now.

23:42 But he's that they've actually had physical contact with him as far as reaching out, tapping his shoulder and things like that. He's he gets out acting with him and is playful with him. But you know, the so that's so I can't that that's that's actually something that doesn't come up. I can't. I can probably count the number of times that's come up on this show on one hand. So you're saying their situations in that where they are actually touching the well juvenile like tapping out. Yeah. Yeah, Like he'll he'll come up if he's if if my buddy who's working the greenhouse and he's a young adult, he's probably close to thirty years old. But when he's working the greenhouse, the juvenile sometimes if he's getting wood or you know, he'll come up, sneak up behind him, tap him on the shoulder, and then jump back about six or seven feet. He turned around there he is, Oh, sorry, I misunderstood. You're saying the juvenile is tapping him on the shoulder. Yeah. Yeah, but the juvenile is about about seven to eight foot tall. Though he's a he's a good size, you know, like a teenager, and he'll be inside the greenhouse and working the greenhouse at night. The juvenile will open the greenhouse door and walk in and you know, kind of look at him and watch him, you know, And

25:15 so he's had very very close interactions. So it's like, there's two ways you could take that. I mean, if if I'm pretending I'm the guy in the greenhouse, it could either be, well, he's messing around, he's trying to prak me, you know, he's having a good time, or he's saying, hey, I could take you out if I wanted to, but I'm just gonna do a little tap on the shoulder. But I'm here, you know, man, probably a little bit of both, you know. I don't know the the you know, they had a one particular day, as he described it, he was in the greenhouse and as he's come to exit the greenhouse, the juvenile was holding the door closed, like, you know, somebody that prank you gonna hold the door close and not let you out and not let you in. He says. I'm like, you know, he says, so I give it a real hard push and I catch him off guard and I pop the door open, and then he slams the shed and jams smashes my finger with it. He goes, and I start screaming because I'm in pain. He runs off. I go take care of my finger. And then from the creek bottom the yell that we called it Fool's Gold where your kids those old rocks ahead of what to look like the quartz on there and stuff like that, he delivers him a quartz rock as a as a like an I'm sorry gift. The next day,

26:49 Sally, Yeah, but speaking of rocks, so you have quartz in the area, do you have have any other big deposit types of mostly limes, certain rocks. Mostly it's a big limestone area. Okay, yeah, okay, you got your now, then you got your the other granted probably over where they're at. There is some granite over over in Madison County where they're at, they're about they're about sixty five or so miles to the northwest of me where the where these guys are at. But the and there is granted over there over our area and closer to the river. It's mostly just limestone.

27:33 And so they're over kind of in the foothills of the Mark Twain National Forest and the Missouri os Arcs over that you know that they're kind of on the eastern edge of the Missouri os Arks. And I was just looking. I was like, I've got to see where Madison County is, and I was like, oh, Mark Twain National Forest. Yeah, yeah, so yeah, that's it. The and and then where we're at is close to you know, you go up and down that Mississippi River and there's gonna be sasquatch activity all up and down through there on those bottoms. Why do you think that there's so much activity in this this corner of Missouri slash Illinois.

28:18 I just I just think the river bottoms with the thick forests. You know, you got Shawnee National Forest over there on the southern Illinois side. And then you know, and then all the tributaries going into the river up and down the river, the creeks and the sleughs and the smaller rivers. It just it gives any type of predatory animal with perfect habitat. You got water source, you got food source, you got plenty of thick woods covered, and it's a perfect habitat for you know, if you're living off the land, absolutely plenty of plenty of vegetation, plenty of game. You know.

29:00 Yeah eight. So you know you mentioned earlier, so you're in the area of Murphy's Borough then, yeah, we're right. Murphy's borrow is probably across the river in thirty miles to the north, maybe something like that. Ya, And it's that's such a fun story from nineteen seventy three. Oh yeah, listeners, if you don't know about the Big Muddy Monster, there's a great doc out there's a great documentary out there. There's a great book. Now there's a festival. I got to get down there. It's I mean, I can drive down there. It's probably seven eight hours from where I'm at in Iowa, but I hear it's a great one. But have you ever you know, I man, if I was down there, I'd be like, what if, like the same Bigfoot is somehow connected to like the stuff I'm researching. That'd be wild man. Yeah, you know are they Are they the same? To me? I think there's just different groups, different clans. I think they've got clans over there, they got clans over here. I don't think they're using the river and go back and forth or anything, but they could be. I don't know. But there's just to me, the evidence shows that there's plenty of them in certain areas now.

30:30 And I another spot over in Madison County that I've had some activity is another person's private property. And that's you know, you know, we sat there and I sat there one night, and you know we had the eye shine of three of them, you know, within thirty yards of us. And and and just watching that. You know, somebody told me a few years ago, just you don't have to go tretching through the woods. Just build a fire, enjoy each other's company, their curiosity, they'll come and check you out. And that has worked for me better than anything as far as getting the interactions. Absolutely. And so let's say you were moving move into a new area and you were you were like, you know, I got to find the places. What are the first steps that you would take to try to figure out, like, what are the areas I'm going to start to look into to see if there's big foot activity. What what I do is I get on the Google Earth and look at the Google earth Maps topographical maps, and I look where there's water and cover. And if there's water and cover, you're more than likely going to find bigfoot now. And you

32:02 don't have to be too far away from the population. You can be. They're not always out in the middle of nowhere. And I'll give you a case in point. You know, I started this journey. My sister got involved in it with me. She actually had a signing on the road one night and has her own story. She did several of my shows. When I did my podcast Understanding Bigfoot, we put thirty seven shows out there, I hadn't done one, and by a year I'm just kind of don't know if I'll get back and do it again. I may just not. But she did several shows with me. But we had parents we have with family members told us, nah, you guys are crazy, right, sure you've heard that, they and but we stuck through our stories because we knew our stories were true, you know, and we didn't care what they said.

33:02 We were gonna do what we're going to do, and we're going to leave what we know because we've experienced it. And I tell my brother, hey, come out with us, come experience what we experience, you know, and then you know, make you know. They So this was this past summer. My parents are both eighty five years old. They live up in Saint Charles, Missouri. Suburban Saint Louis three million population metropolitan Saint Louis. Right, And and Dad and I were going back and forth. We've got a great relationship, and we were going back and forth, and he's rassing me about this stuff. I said, look, And I was due up to get up there and take him to a doctor appointment on a Monday, and I was going to come up on a Sunday. I said, tell you what. I'll tell you what. There is a bicycle trail that starts in Saint Charles and goes across to Kansas City on the Missouri River. They call it the Katie Trail. Very popular tourists of ext you know, people ride the whole thing. They rate pips of it. It's a recreational thing.

34:14 It's super and and right there in Saint Charles County, about six miles where my dad lives, there's a conservation area, public conservation area down on that river called Weldon Spring Conservation Area. Katie Trail runs through there. I said, I'll tell you what. I said, Let's go. Let's let's take Let's take a drive down to the parking lot there to Katie Trail and the conservation area and we'll just listen, just sit and listen for the night and see what we hear. I had no idea. I hadn't had any other a bigfoot activity in that area. Yeah, except for a story that I knew from about forty five years ago. And we didn't even know it was big foot back then. We just thought this guy's crazy, but we knew he was something that scared him, right, And so we go down there and we park and we're talking the last cyclist, is it starting to get dark? Last cyclist that gets done riding the bike on that portion of the trail gets in his truck. And when that last cyclist, when that truck pulls out of the parking lot, up on the ridge in the woods, we hear distinct two tree knocks. And my dad heard that. He

35:47 said that was two tree knocks. I said, yeah it was, He said, I said maybe. I said, My guess is it's signaling the rest of them in the woods that the bicyclists are gone for the night. The other five minutes go by, ten minutes go by, we don't hear anything. Now, if that up there tree knocked and he's overlooking the area, he knows we're still there in the car. But he knows we're not bicyclists, right, He's smart enough know that. So I thought, well, I normally don't do this, but I'm with Dad. Dad's got expectations of activity. We're not getting activity. I normally don't do this, but I'm gonna let out a couple whoops. That guy up there already knows that he knows it's me whooping. I'm not gonna fool him. I may not fool any of them, but I didn't anyway. I normally don't do that, normally don't have So I go to a big whoop, you know, whoop, a couple of them, high pitched. And after I did my second one, up on the ridge to the left of this, uh, we hear a real loud, long drawn out, bigfoot screen like you'd hear

37:22 with the Ohio sounds, you know, one of those, And it just set the woods up. We started hearing them fall over that conservation area ridge just to just yell back and forth, back and forth. It sounded like a whole chorus of them just was in a certain distance of us, and it scared my dad. He got spooked. I thought it was deep. I thought it was cool because I've I've heard the same thing in Southeast Missouri on a few occasions. Right, I'm like, this, they're here, They're here. This is so cool. And he's like, let's go. Your Dad's like gon zero to sixty in like two seconds exactly this. I'm like, I'm like, what are you afraid of? They don't exist?

38:19 And anyway, I tell you, he'll doubt play it to this day. It was. It was so much fun. And and my sister who lives in Texas, she was coming up a couple of weeks later to visit him. She's all, I got to take him out there. So she takes him back out to the same place and he went and turned the motor off for the car. He went, you got to turn the motor off the cars, we hear you. I ain't turn it off, what if it won't start back up. So she finally brought it back, convinced him to turn the motor off, and then then she did. She started. They had some activity too, and it's like two times you know, so but that but that's but what that tells you is they're all over the place.

39:19 You can look and you can look at the habitat, habitual area in the map what it looks like, and you can say they're probably there. They probably are. And in this case, they're in a county, Saint Charles County that you know, probably has the entire county, probably has a population of three quarters of a million people, so you know, they don't have to be too far away. And people recreationally ride that bike trail every single day without incident with the Bigfoot. Don't even know they're there, most of them. And I bet they're just watching them all day long though, and they're just watching them. Yeah, there are people watchers they you know, I've had that with me, member of cages. It's just that's the fast, that's the fascinating. That's like what I did, the understanding Bigfoot thing.

40:16 That's what do I want to call the show. I don't want to call it Bigfoot is real. I know that. I don't want to call it finding Bigfoot. I found them, Uh you know, hey, just try to understand what they know and what they weren't they're about. Somebody told me, he said, you're never going to understand Bigfoot, and then we will always have another show to do or another subject to talk about exactly. You know, I bring this up every once in a while, but someone about a year ago was like, you know, so you're going to start focusing on Bigfoot? Yeah? Absolutely. Aren't you afraid that you're you're going to run out of people to talk to that have had stuff happen. I don't think so. And now it's like, no, never it will.

41:02 I will never run out of people. It's it's intense all over the all over the nation and the world. You've dealt with this, Jeremiah, and I've dealt with it, you probably more so than me. Where I've had gas on the podcast that I've done that said, finally, I'm able to get this off my chest to somebody who understands absolutely. And I've lived with I've lived with this for how many years we had a situation. I'm a I work at a high school, and I work at a high This is my second year at that high school. I'm athletic director there and I teach a couple of classes and these kids are wonderful. And this high school is in Bollinger County, Missouri. Now, if you look at the map, Cape Girardo County is there in the river. The next county over is Bollinger County. The next county over is Madison County, where I've had bigfoot activity.

41:59 Right, so it's safe to say if bigfooter in Cape Toronto County, big footer in Madison County, they're probably in Bollinger County too. You know that they are. You know, it's a rural what it county, But most of the people don't know that they are because they you know, and so these kids, they find out a new person's coming to town, he's not from there, he's going to be you know, athletic director, teacher classes. They get on there and they stalk you on social media. They find out this guy is this study guy's into bigfoot. So yeah, they start rassing me. And they had the other I did podcasts, did podcasts and and I'm still my guys, I'm telling you, I'm telling you.

42:52 And this year, this is just this is just we're still in March. This is this month. This is the first early this month, one of our seniors, female student going to be valedictorian in the class basketball player over a thousand points in the basketball team career wise. You know, good, you know you're all American kid, right, she says to me a couple of months ago. There's one thing I want you to do for me, and if you have others before we graduate us. So what's that, she says, Take us out to the woods and show us what you know, show us what you're seeing. Put up or shut up, mister Scott, I said, okay, So I got to school to let me take a sponsor, to let me take these kids out on a field trip. You remember the old field trips in school, right, you go to the zoo or go someplace like that. So I had eleven students. I had eight seniors and three juniors. Eleven students. Put them on a school bus, and since we're small school, I also drive the bus. So drive them over to my conservation area in North Cape County where I know the at least the one thing I know I can show them is footprints. Right, are

44:27 you going to show us Bigfoot? Probably not. You're not going to see bigfoot. They're not you know, they don't, they're not out. I said, I will show you evidence. I had my buddy, one of my research buddies, met me up there. He's retired now. He met us up there, joined us, and so we went out and we weren't. We weren't fifty seventy five yards off the bus, and I spot the first track, and so I called, I said, look this, guys, let's look at this. It wasn't a perfect track, but you could tell. I said, now, get your hands down there. You see where the you know, the indentions very barely, but there is an indention.

45:12 You see if you feel toes, they feel toes. Let's get the tape. Majure out that that track is sixteen inches long, eight inches wide, and they can feel they can see that's the track. I said. Now, I said, if this is one track, there has to be others. So you want to look four to five feet ahead, four to five feet behind. You may not actually see a good footprint like this, but you'll see where it's stepped. There'll be an impression where it's stepped, and then so and then and then the students are looking. The students are picking it out. Hey, look at there, look at there. He's right, hey, look you there, look at you know, and we saw three or four steps worth through travel. And then once I showed them what I saw, they went out and started looking like like like kids in an Easter egg hunt. Hey, hey, this might be one here, Come look at it. Hey, hey, this might be one over here, Come look at it. And and so these kids are seeing for the first time, you're seeing sixteen inches. This was only a fifteen inch track.

46:32 This one's this one's eighteen inches long. And they're they're they're seeing it, you know. And and they're getting excited because they're seeing they know that something is laying these yeah, and these are awful big feet. And and so they went up ahead and we got to we got to an area that I said, I'm going to walk on up the hill because I've seen some good tracks up there before. And they were going to stay along that little small creek bed, and my buddy was with them, and they were going up there. One of my students found a perfect into creek bottom, seventeen inch print by nine wide toes down in there that heel into the mid tarsal break. Everything was showing, I mean, good old inch indentching into the ground. And I got to him finally, and I had thought, because I wanted to have them to have this experience, I got a I brought a kit for plaster casting. I thought, if we find a good track.

47:55 We're going to cast it. So I got the casting material, showed the kids, okay, follow directions, mix it up. Students mixed it up. Students poured it into the foot One kid pulls the wallet out. You've got a little credit card. They kind of smooth it over at the top, make a nice smooth top. And that track is sitting there in the ground, seventeen inches long, nine inches by the widest part. And I wanted to set up real good. And by this time they're hungry and they want to go get lunch, but I wanted to set up real good.

48:37 My buddy says, hey, let's just do this. I'll come back tomorrow and get it. Let it get good, because I'm worried about well, if we start taking it out of ground, I don't want to fall apart. We got a mile to walk back to the bus. And so my buddy goes back gets the next day, gets out of ground. This is just a perfect, perfect footprint that these students found, cast it and and and made their day. And I'm working on I'm getting it cleaned up. And what we're going to do is all the students that were on the trip are going to sign the flat part of the cast and the school is going to let us put it on display in the display case in the lobby at school. Now how cool is that? And and these kids, most of them are three quarters of away or better to believe it in what I'm doing and thinking, this guy is nuts, so nuts after all, because we saw this much and so the word links, you know, spreads at school. What what we did? I got the cast in my classroom, and now you got other groups wanting to go out, other groups when why can't why keep why you can't do? We just got to get a group.

50:00 We gotta you know, you know, you'd be the next script to go. So that's the kind of thing educating people. And we put that of the Simo bigfooten Crypti research facebook page that my friend Susan Perez runs here out of Cape Girardo put We put the pictures the story on that Facebook page, which the and then Barbara Hartman, another one of my co hosts on Wednesday Nights are co Panteless on Wednesday Nights, she put it on her no Drama Bigfoot Facebook page. And I had somebody comment on the Semo Bigfoot page from just in the County to the north of US in Perry County, right along the river. This is so cool. I've been looking for a group to be able to share with this. I had a siding when I was a kid, and I haven't been able to talk to anybody about it because my initial conversations were dismissed. You didn't see that you were dreaming that, you know, And so I I reached out to her, and you know, and she and I are gonna be talking soon. But I thought, yeah, that's why we do what we're doing, because there's so many people out there that have had that encounter and they've got nobody to share it with

51:35 because their initial sharings were discounted absolutely, And you probably experienced that. I experienced that, My sister experienced that. But I thought, screw it, I'm gonna keep I'm gonna keep telling the story because it's true. And yeah, that is so cool that you're well, you were able to take some kids out from the school and kind of open open their eyes to what's really out there. But you know, a question I wanted to ask you. You know, you might have an interesting viewpoint of this because you have had that visual you know, face to face. It's a it's a basic question.

52:21 But so what what do you think Bigfoot is? If you had to categorize? Well, you hear a lot of talk about that the spiritually. I'm a Christian Christian belief and I believe like us that they are part of God's creation. Now to what extent they were created? Some people say, well, biblically, it's from the Nephilim and this dead I'm not. I'm not going to discount that, except for the only thing that makes me question that is the neph of them were fallen angels and demonic and all that stuff, and these things have been nothing but nice to me, total the total opposite of what you'd expect from demons, if you will. All my experience has been real chill. And I know people been bluffed by son was bluff charged once, but I know I know that's that's out there too, and but but I've to me that's where I'm at with it. But I also know my buddy Tom Cantrell uh said they're flesh and blood and something else.

53:43 There's something else going on with them too, he says, I don't know exactly what. And I kind of agree with you. On that because because I have it, I don't have the evidence that they're you know, some people say, well, they're part of an alien group, or they just disappeared a thin air. I haven't witnessed that. I'm not going to discount somebody else's story because people discounted mind. I'm just going by what I have learned in four years. And and but I do know on three different occasions, three times in my life have I seen orbs, And all three of those times were in the presence of Bigfoot activity. But I've been in the presence of Bigfoot activity multiple times where there were no orbs. So do they have something to do with each other? They might, you know, but they don't all the time. So yeah, I just try to as an educator, I just try to try to be common sense about things. Exactly the orbs that you saw, were they a certain color or shape or size or well? The one the one time, and I got a picture of it, of the orb and actually if you blow the orb up, you see the big foot behind, you know, right there with the orb.

55:07 I got gun on my phone, I could text it to you, but the but that was green. The other two times the orbs were clear black light bulb like like a white light like white lights. So it's it's really interesting, you know. I've gotten more and more accounts over the last I would say six months. I think people are starting to get not as scared to talk about the ORB thing. I think it might. I think people are starting to accept it more. I think back in the day, they're you know, yeah, people bring it and it's and it's like the mind speak because I've been I've communicated with them multiple times, but not through mine speak. I talked, I talk in English, and they well vocalized back to me. Sometimes it's a grunt. Sometimes it's a little gibberish. Sometimes it's just that I might get an awl call back from him or something like that or whoop or so, and then we'll go back and forth. I don't know that they know what I'm saying. I don't know what they're saying, but I can tell that we're on friendly terms with each other, you know exactly. But I've got one of my research guys says that he'd had

56:45 some mind speaking activity with him and told me what they said to him and told me what he you know, and I'm like, my first thought four years ago was you're crazy. But I don't think that anymore because I've talked to enough people have had those experiences that that I think there's something to that. But I don't think everybody has that experience I did. I haven't had that experience, but I've talked to enough people that have, and and so you know, I'm not discounting it. And and that's part of that. There's something else going on, you know. I've had people that have been hit with the infra sound that have told me what that was like. I'd never been hit with it, so I can't, you know. And I was as close to I had one outside of my tent door one day and we were on more than five or six feet apart. It was just a tent wall separate us. And and and that was interesting. That was that was That was two years ago April. Two years ago April, we were camping, and And and my buddy Bill and I and he had a friend who was a total skeptic. The three of us were camping and we were in the tent and we hadn't really had a whole lot. We were, you know, getting in there for the night. And it had been raining, and it had been cloudy, so the lighting was not good because the

58:17 cloud covers keeping the moonlight from being there. And Bill and I had both fallen asleep, and the first sound I heard was a foot crunching gravel. There was a little gravel drive where Bill had his truck parked. And when I heard the foot crunch the gravel, I woke up. And when I woke up, our skeptical buddy was sitting up in his cot and he was on high alert, and he looked like he was, you know, and we stayed quiet. Next step crunches the gravel. Next step crunches the gravel.

58:59 We had a tar about in front of our tent because to keep them keeping from tracking mud into the tent because it had been raining. And the next step is on the tarp, and the next step is on the tarp, so he's got two feet in the tarp. He is right there on the other side of the tent wall from us. I know I know what it is because I've dealt with it. This guy is just on high alert. He knows that something is out there walking around on two legs. It's that that's pretty heavy footed. And I'm sitting there saying to myself, talk to it, talk to it, say something to it. But I was like, I couldn't, you know, you know what I mean. I'm like, he's that close. I I thought, I'm gonna let him make one more move and then I'm gonna say something to him. And then he next thing, you know, two three steps, he's back into the woods and gone. And I didn't I choked. I wanted to talk to say something, to see what it would react, how it would do, what it would you know, And and I didn't do it anything. Walked into the woods. It was too late, and and and my buddy Bill is still snoring. He hadn't woke up yet. And so I asked the guy, I said, so, so what what what do you hear? He said, Well, he says, I heard a couple of branches break from in the woods. That did you know, sound like somebody broke them.

1:00:30 He goes. The next thing I know, he goes, it's messing with things in the back of the truck. Yeah, moving things around, checking things out in the back of the truck. He goes. Then I start coming across the gravel and I thought, that's when I woke up. And I started coming across the gravel and then he had experienced everything I experienced, and I said that that was that was a that was a big foot. He came in to visit us, and this guy's like and of course this guy went back to his way, and Bill will say, oh, he just he just he's putting it out of his mind. He said, no, I didn't experience that. That really didn't happen, but it did.

1:01:16 And I mean, yeah, yeah, that's that's wild. Have you guys ever heard or experienced zipper noises down there, like a zip in tense? Yeah, I haven't. No, Okay, have you heard of that down there at all? Well, we got a young man who is uh well, he came to our group as a total skeptic. Come to a couple of one of our meetings ones you know Susan advertised these meetings, who you'll have a quarterly luncheon somewhere, And he camped with us one night and he had a little individual, one person tent that he set up about twenty yards from the other tents, and he had the strings and the tent. Okay, the strings, he said something was like picking the string like a guitar.

1:02:31 Yeah, ding ding ding at night overnight, and he didn't. He said, because I thought maybe just the wind or the wind's not going to do that, you know, on those ten strings. And I said, probably it's probably a big foot to come in and because there's no other animals just gonna sit there and do that some string while you're in there sleeping. Based on the things we experienced and stuff like that, probably it was a big foot to come into the camp and it was doing that, And you know that's that's Yeah, that's the closest that we've heard. Yeah, it's it's it's a it's a you know that they will let you know that that they're in the area. They'll do different ways, they'll do different things to let you know they're in the area, and and so you can you know, like like in my case, I'm like, should I unzip the tent and go out and see this thing? Right? And I'm like, you know, you know your mind, You're like, well, how will it react if you do that? Yeah? Will it? Will it feel that I'm being aggressive with it? I mean, I don't want to tangle with it. I'm not going to win that If it feels I'm being aggressive with

1:04:02 it is he coming in and doing this much, but he doesn't want me to, you know, or do they actually want me to come out and have interaction. I don't know the answer to that at this point. And that's why that night, I like I said, I choked, I didn't do anything, you know, and let it walk off. But and then you just, you know, you just have that regret, like one my first my first time I went out in Iowa, and what I was just I was just so excited and I was like, you know, texting different people. I was in my tent by myself, and uh, I was texting random people and uh, Shannon was like, you gotta you gotta do the baby christ sound just to see what happens. I'm not going to do the baby cry sound. And she's like, just do it, and I was like, nah, I'm not gonna do it. I regret. I wish I would have done it, because it's like you but that kind of can set off a lot of things that can set off actual predators as well, so maybe want to be careful of that. But well, you know, that's why I don't. I try not to yell and do all that stuff, you know, I try not to do that because you don't know what you're communicating, you don't know what else you're setting off, you know, things like that. Bill I mentioned Bill. Bill and I get camped.

1:05:30 On one occasion. It was just the two of us and we we're setting in for the evening for we're hoping to have some good activity with the Sasquatches, and about some people pulled up to hunt coons. They had a couple, but two three coon hounds got down in those you know, started going down in those woods, and they were in our vicinity, and you can hear those hounds yep, and I thought, well, there goes our night. And I guess at some point into their coon hunt, we heard the loudest, the loudest bigfoot roar that we had ever heard. And I mean this was you're Ohio, howell on steroids, if you're if you're right, if you're there at the time, and we never heard another yep out of those coon hounds, and I was I was kind of get worried.

1:06:36 I thought, these these dogs, you know, And then about ten minutes later, you can hear the hunters throwing these coon dogs in the back of their truck. And then you're peeling out of the gravel getting out of there. And I thought, I wish I knew who those guys were. I'd love to talk to him tomorrow and find out, you know. But and then my next thought was, I hope the Bigfoot doesn't associate us with being the coon hunters, right, because we're up there in the tent. We're vulnerable, right, some thinking, oh, you know, you start praying that. Yeah, Well, about an hour later, we hear from out you know, we're in the tent. It's you know, we're we hear and this is instance. We hear a hoodoo immediately followed by a little updown whistle and then some rock clicking that's sounded like rock clicking. Whoda uptown whistle, rock clicking? Who do updown whistle? Rock clicking? And this is going on, and they're probably about forty yards from the tent, and we're hearing that. The bill, I said, Bill, I said, I think they're talking to us some way or another. Bill's a good whistler.

1:08:04 So when they got to the updown whistle, he replied with an updown whistle. Then the hoodoo and the rock clicker quit. They just they started whistling back and forth to each other, and this is going on. Yeah, whistle, whistle, whistle, whistle. And I said, and this is when I got the guts. I said, let's let's walk outside the tent. This is so cool. Let's walk outside the tent. So we walked outside the tent and they continued. He whistled, he whistled, he whistled, he They go back and forth. They're down there and they're getting the trees. And I'm thinking, come on, you know, just come out and show yourself to us, and would do it. And finally the whistling stopped and they Okay, I guess they're not going to show themselves to us, so we so we go back into the tent, zip it back up, lay back down. And then once we're settled into the tent, behind us, there's a gravel parking lot and all of a sudden, you can hear them walking across the gravel park lot on the other side of our trucks, step step step, step step step, going off to where they're going, and and they're they're they're incredible, they are incredible. That's wild.

1:09:27 Have you heard of any situations You said something a while back and it made me think of something. Uh. And so the question I have is, have you heard of any situations where sasquatch has made people's lives miserable in your area or state? Uh? Yeah, I'll talk about a couple of Like I said, this is a conservation area that we go to, and of course it's surrounded by farms and people that just have property and want to be out in the middle of nowhere or whatever. And there's not a lot of population up there, twenty miles north of Cape and these guys, they'll come in and with there side by sides and that. And one couple stopped one time and talking to us, and he sees me. He says, I've seen you up here before, now, you know. And we try not to let them know what we're doing, right. Yeah. And so finally my buddy asked me if you noticed anything strange, any weird activity is up here? No? Okay, well, well they're they're So the guy leaves.

1:11:02 He comes back about thirty minutes later. He says, I had a great Pyrenees. I found him down in a hollow on my property, dead with a broken back. He said, you ask about things strange? He says, you know, something would spoot my horses down there at night, that great parent won't be there their guard dogs, right, and he goes he ends up with the broken back down there. He says he didn't get hit by a car because the roads just a little gravel road that nobody ever travels. I mean, you know your dog's not gonna get hit by a car. And you know, he said it was it would have been down there in the bottoms. He goes, what would have done that? Because there's no teeth marks on it. He goes, there's no scratch marks on it. There wouldn't been a mountain lion. You know, we do have mountain lions there too. I saw one of couple of years ago. What would have done that? I said, Well, I said, probably bigfoot.

1:12:12 I said, because whatever the bigfoot was doing causing the horses to react, causing the dog to react, they thought, they don't want their cover blown, So let's eliminate what's blowing the cover. Probably a bigfoot they're out here. He didn't know that. And another situation, and my son was he was actually the first one to find the tracks that first day in December in twenty nineteen. He's into hunting. He would go up to that same conservation area in deer hunt and I remember this, and he knows Bigfoot syrup there because we had interactions. But he still go up there and deer other people deer hunts, not like people. Don't you know, they're not up there killing hunters, right, and they know hunters are in the woods.

1:13:15 And when the hunting seasons are, he tells me. He says, hey, I'm going to a new place in the morning. They hadn't been to, but I think it's a real good spot to go. I said, watch you and he he lived here in Cape at the time. I said, why why don't you come over and get me. I'll go out with you and sit with you. And next morning I get up. It's about five forty five in the morning. I get up, I let the dog out, and I get a text digging on my phone and I don't have my glass on. Oh, Ramsey's on his way over where. He's a little late. He should have been over here thirty minutes ago. Maybe so I just I ignored the texts that I started getting dressed. Well. Then five minutes later the phone's ringing and I picked the phone up and I said, I'm just Don Shotley. Where are you at? Man? And he's breathing heavily into the phone, and he's sounds real shook up, and he says, I'm up here in a field. I said, oh, you went up there hunting and you didn't come over and get me. I thought you were going to come over and get me, Dad, I'm up here in the field. I just got chased out of the woods. I said,

1:14:49 chased out of the woods by what? He says, You know what, I said, you should have come and got me. What would you have done? I said, I don't know. I said, he's he's so, I said, I is what I said. Come on, I said, we'll go get some breakfast, talk about this, then we'll go back up and check things out. And the area that he went when we got there, there were it was there was a game trail Perfect Deer, Yeah, game trail, and this area had two arch long thin trees arch kind of over the game trail, and you know they'll do those tree arches.

1:15:45 And I don't know if it was just a sign like it's a good spot for us, Yeah, yeah, whatever, I just theorize it. As he went to hunt that morning, where they were where they wanted to be, and they didn't want him there, and he didn't. He he had a little little spotlight head lamp to get into his place, and pitch dark, and he couldn't see the bigfoot, and probably there were two of them, maybe two of them. They growled, screamed at him, broke trees, shook trees, chased him, bluff probably bluff charged him. He couldn't see. He didn't fire, as he didn't fire his rifle. And I've told him, don't shoot unless you absolutely have to. I said everything I researched, They will let you leave the area. Just leave the area if you run into something like that, I said everything I researched, they'll let you leave the area. As soon as he got to the field, they left him alone. Soon as he got out of the woods into the field, they left him alone. And and you know, we went back to the spot. I saw some a couple of eighteen inch footprints in that area too, I spotted I said, yeah, you know you were you were wrong place at the wrong time. And and then the next time he calls, he says, he goes, I really want to hunt that field back there. He says, but he said, will you go with me

1:17:16 today? I know you're he you're not afraid of these things, and I just feel better if you went with me. Yeah, I'll go with you. But he had that experience, he didn't he didn't like it. He didn't want to have anything to do with him. So, yeah, you know, a lot of accounts I take it. It just it almost sounds like they just they want you out of a certain area. Or yeah, they just want you out a certain area, and once you get to out of that area, they'll they'll kind of just leave you alone. That's wild. Though. Have you had any any conversations or connections with up here we call him g n R officers or forestry workers or law enforcement officials about Bigfoot?

1:18:08 Yeah, Missouri Department of Conservation, you know, their field their field agents. We were we were up there one night. We had a little little you know, they got two little primitive camp areas up to this conservation area and were up there and this is in January, my goodness, a few years back. And got a fire going, the spitting snow and you know, got got a tent. We were camping, and and there was four of us up there. At the time. I think one of one was the three of us were gonna camp, one of us gonna what was gonna go home when he felt like it. And we're just up there talking in a game. Warden making his rounds stops and it comes over to check us out. Yeah, starts asking questions. Yeah, he's got to find out are we up there for? Do we mean no good or we And it was two during COVID and I finally said to him, I said, I said, I said, look, I said, we're really we're not hunting. We're not and nobody was really getting drunk or anything like that, so we're not. I said, we just come up here to get away and be somewhere where we can just sit down and just visit with each other without having to put a mask on, without having to worry about social distancing, without having to do any of that stuff, just to kind of get away and just chill and visit with each other. And he's like, okay, okay, he says, well, he says, I feel like though,

1:19:39 I probably better say something to you. Though, he says, there there could be because I don't have firsthand knowledge, but there could be bigfoots in this area. Was there a Department of Conservation? Hold up, so did he know you guys were big footers. When said that, we didn't mention. We didn't mention what we were up there doing. Oh, we didn't want him to know. We didn't want him to know. I was like, I was like, we just someplace we go visit with each other without having to put a mask on and social. You'll work, but you'll just try to be normal. And when he said that, I said, what did you say? Oh, I don't have first ten knowledge. He said, I'm just telling you from what some things I've heard, there might be some in the area. Just beware. And then my buddy says, that's why we're here, that's what we do. And then okay, so I said, well, so I showed him some pictures on my phone or some footprints. I had this one here. I took that picture three hundred yards right over there, down by that old bar, and this one here.

1:20:53 These were cast over here on the other side off the boat ramp. You know, different things like that. He's like, whoa, yeah, yeah, okay, you got the evidence. Well, we've exchanged contact information and and I have I've got a cell number in my in my phone and he's got mine, and and they're okay with us going up there in researching. I sent him with text most recently of this plaster cast. Our kids did. Tody what we did, what we found. He's like, you know, he's like, that's awesome. And and then we had another conservation agent. He said, oh, he says, well, he goes, if you want to check out other places, he gave us a couple of other wildlife areas in southeast Missouri. You can go there. You can go there, he goes, they're there too now, but now the state of Missouri says they don't exist. Well, the narrative of the Missouri Department of Conservation is it's a mythological creature that does not exist. But these two field agents say, oh yeah, be careful. And the one guy who said to me, he says, because it floors me that you guys actually spend the night out there in your tents, know to what's out there. And I told him, I said, they have they have not been harmful to

1:22:24 us. They showed us nothing but peacefulness, and and and you know, hm hmm. So it's awesome that you've got some guys on the inside like that that are on a talking basis with you. That's so cool. But but but these sasquatches that they have got, they are very disciplined. They got a sophistication with their with their units, call them claims or family units, whatever you want to call them. I mean, I'll sit up there at that parking lot, I said, at parking lot during deer season, and you know the firearm deer season, which is which is you know state holiday probably in your state, my state, right the the and when the hunter comes out of the woods onto the gravel parking lot about seventy yards off the way, you hear whoa. Ten minutes later, next hunter runs out, comes out, whoa. These hunters are oblivious to it. They act like what's mag what's But you have a sasquatch watching the parking lot, hunter out, hunter out. They know exactly how many cars are parked, how many people down there hunting when the last hunter gets out of the woods, and when they can go start roaming. That's how sophisticated of a system they've

1:23:56 got going. And if they've got to go on in k Gerudal County, they've got to going all over the country. Absolutely that's how they thrive and and that's how they thrive and survive. And that's how people hunt without knowing they're out there. Yeah, I mean it reminds me of what the Olympic Project on Washington says, you know, Chris Spencer, Shane Corson. They say that you're going to catch a lot of stuff when you get right out of your vehicles, So you better have a sound recorder going because that's when you're going to hear like, oh, they're back again. You know, it's crazy, you know. And they've got there what do you call them, day watchers whever you want to call them. They are transitioned at certain areas, and you know, and they're going to keep an eye on things and and and but they they they've got that going on, and they and they learned to coexist with the hunters, and that's that's why they're you know.

1:25:01 And I tell the hunters, well, like my son is, you're not going to shoot your way out of it unless you absolutely have to, I said. But at the same time, they know that you've got a gun, so they don't want you to shoot your way out of it, you know. Yeah, absolutely to the side if there's a conservation officer DNR or whatever, you'd be labeled in your state, and you know about bigfoot, you had an experience and you want to reach out, you can reach out to me Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com. Even if it's just to chat off air and off record. That I have no problem with that.

1:25:42 I talk to a lot of people off record. But Mike, have you have you heard of any situations where it could be like a bigfoot related to like a missing four one one type thing, or like you could have been responsible for a person that was missing or anything like that. They had a situation about a year and a half ago down here in southeast Missouri where a deer hunter went missing and he was down He was from Sikeston, which is thirty miles south of me, but he was over in a Mark Twain area over in east probably west of Poplar Bluff down there around the Current River in that area, and he went missing and they found him dead a couple days later when they went when he went missing, here's here's here's what's strange about this. They searched the area and they found his rifle and he wasn't there when they the next day as they're searching the area. His body was back

1:27:12 at the place where they found his rifle, and a lot of people, you know, speculating bigfoot got him, bigfoot got him, bigfoot got him. And my theory on that was, I don't think so. I don't know what got him. But he may just had a he made, just he made, just had a heart attack. And you know, I don't know what caused his death. They may have something, may have taken him somewhere because he wasn't there where the rifle was at. I don't know why he would have left his rifle to go, you know, And when they found the body where the rifle was the next day, my guess is it possibly a big foot brought him back to that spot knowing they were going to look, you know, that that's an area they were looking because the last thing the Sasquatch wants is a bunch of law enforcement officials scoring through their territory.

1:28:27 I would think so they I'm thinking my theory is they brought the body back. There's your body. I don't know what caused it. Maybe they did, maybe they did, Maybe he was ready to shoot. I don't know if it was, If it was Bigfoot that got him or not. I had it had heard me all the details since then on, that's been kind of hushed up, right, But but so so it's it's it's it's sketchy. You know, nobody really knows for sure. But somehow that body got back to where that gun was that it wasn't there the day before. That's a tricky situation, for sure. You hear in Oklahoma a lot of there's a few instances of you know, bigfoot trying to get into houses or becoming extremely aggressive. Is that a thing that you guys have to deal with down in southeast Missouri? Ever, I haven't heard of that. Now.

1:29:26 I have heard knocking on the walls, knocking on the windows. I had a lady on one of my podcasts. She gets from over to Springfield area, north of Springfield, and she said that there's one that I mean, he's at her bedroom window every night between two and three in the morning, tapping on it. I said, you're not going out to see what he wants? She goes, no, no, no, this is every day. And I said, put up perimner game cans. They'll they'll stay away from there. But but the but I've heard of that. I heard of that that that, you know, things like that, peeking in the windows, kno gonna, I haven't heard of. I haven't heard of one trying to get in the house though, not a personal story from anybody. I've read some encounters. I read some counters where maybe they've they perhaps did in that. So even over at the place where I go in Madison County, they've gone up to the house. They haven't they haven't tried to get in the house. So they've gone up close to the houses. Yeah, they've they've been up to the they've been up to the porch, you know, but they have been in they tried to get in the house or been in the house. So they're like getting up to the porch, but not quite crossing that point because they not crossing that. That could happen someday, but

1:31:00 that's because they're wild, because they've had gifts left for them on the porch right there outside the oh really just just you know, they come up and leave a gift in return for the food they're getting or something else. So exactly, do you know anything about a place called Marley Woods down in Missouri called what it's called Marley Woods, Marley Woods. Yeah, they was just shot in the dark. It's a you know, skinwalker ranch out in Utah. Yeah, I've heard of it. So supposedly there's a version of that somewhere in Missouri where it's like a lot of UFO stuff but also some bigfoot type thing. It would have to be it would have to be over in the Olzark side, yes, although yeah, I would guess too. Yeah, we we. You know, I had a guy that's he's doing a documentary on the this Grand Tower or UFO thing from about fifty years ago over in southern Illinois, which is a big buddy area across where we researched and and we we saw what I'm just going to say it was a UFO because we couldn't identify it as anything else in the sky one night when we were up there and that thing was doing all kinds of things that that aren't on any aircraft that we know anything about, and and so we just so he'd

1:32:32 found out he wouldn't know, I couldn't. He was down to doing some interviews. I was out of town when he did that. But the he's putting his documentary together. My buddies, I think interviewed with him. But the but I did talk to him on the phone. I said, that's what I saw. I said, I can't tell you that it was related to aliens or not, but I did see something in the sky that was not a normal thing in the sky. And so but that stuff is, yeah, that stuff is, you know. And and if, like I said, if Bigfoot is real, and bigfoot is in the abundance that they are in in this country, which I believe, if they were recognized there's more than enough, they would not be on an endangered species list. And nobody knows about that. And I'm not gonna I'm not gonna say these other things aren't really to do. There's no telling ones out there. So I got one last question for you. You know, you're hearing a lot of accounts and stories in your your corner, Missouri. Do you ever hear any accounts or sightings of non bigfoot creatures in the area. I haven't heard anything related in our area to dog Man. Probably the closest thing related to that out, I mean, what's his name put out a documentary recently. My

1:34:04 friend Miguel was sasquatch theory about it. A dog Man siding over to the west of us Mark Twain area. Again the the somebody reported a couple of years ago and they described and this was like right in Cape Girardo. They just what they described as far as the creature is probably the closest thing we would call it would be the moth man, really big old batman type thing flying a you know. And they said there are two different sidings within about a month of each other, and the Cape Girardo city limits on the outskirts of it. And I'd heard about that but didn't follow up on it because you know, but who knows in how long ago was that? You said a few years. That's probably about three years by about three years ago probably, I mean that's probably about three years. Well, I hadn't heard anything since then, but I did hear it too, in the same region, with about the same month of each other. And and I I didn't I didn't know. I didn't get any names. I just heard about it.

1:35:35 So, you know, I thought, you know, I'm diving into bigfoot. I don't have time to dive into everything. That's the thing. Right when you start focusing on big faces, like you don't have time for anything anything else. Yeah, you know, and I get it, and so ah, Mike, it has been. It's really fun time chatting with it. You are a wealth of knowledge about Bigfoot in general and especially in your corner Missouri. Such a fun time. So thank you for coming on. I appreciate that. I appreciate you inviting me. I know we first contacted about seven or eight months ago about this this and finally got together. And I've enjoyed my time. I've enjoyed sharing what I've experienced, and hopefully your audience gains a better understanding as well. Hopefully they enjoyed it. So absolutely can do you mind taking a few minutes how people can if there's any way to keep up to date with what you're doing, how to contact you if if they have reports in your area, the Cape Girardo County, Missouri, all that good stuff. Okay, Yeah, my email address is really easy.

1:36:49 It's all one word. Understanding Bigfoot at gmail dot com. I am with the Facebook page. I'm on Facebook as Mike Scott. I'm on Facebook. I'm a part of the SEMO Southeast Missouri Bigfoot Encrypted Research Group on the Facebook page. They're welcome to join that and get on that and then kind of keep up with what's going on in Southeast Missouri and they can contact us directly through that as well. Those are the easiest ways. I hop on the Grizzlies on the Hunt podcast on Wednesday nights most Wednesday nights at eight o'clock, and on his channel as a panelist, and so I'm out there.

1:37:40 Love it, good stuff, Mike, Thank you so much for coming on. No, thank you, I really appreciate it. You've got a great show and I'm glad I've got to be a part of it. So I just wanted to take a few minutes to say thank you to you Hollman listeners for listening to the podcast. Please take a minute to help out the show by subscribing on YouTube, making sure you hit the bell so you don't miss any notifications, and share the episode on YouTube with a friend. Also, if you're listening to us on a podcast, thank you so much. Make sure that you're subscribed, share the show with a friend. Really, it's all about sharing the show wherever you can. If you've had a Bigfoot encounter related to the following, or know someone who has, please reach out to me at Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com. Or pass on my email.

1:38:31 Here's the list. All right, I'm going to use this space this week to announce that I'll be at the Sasquatch Summerfest and Oakridge organ as an atender. I won't be presenting or anything, but I'll be hanging out trying to interview people that have had bigfoot encounters. If you're from the Oakridge, Oregon area or surrounding and you've had a bigfoot experience, please contact me directly Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com. Also, Priscilla was nice enough that if you get your tickets through Sasquatch Summerfest dot com and use code Bigfoot Society and get fifty percent off the cost of your tickets, which is a big amount. So code Bigfoot Society to get fifty percent off your tickets Sasquatch Summerfest dot com and helps out the podcast as well. A special thank you to all the Bigfoot Society Patreon and YouTube channel members. It's your support that helps keep the show going and I extremely appreciate it.