July 2, 2025

It Made a Bee-Line Towards Me! | Michigan

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Season 1

Join host Jeremiah Byron as he talks to Giles, a lifelong Michigan resident with a rich history of outdoor experiences and a series of truly mind-boggling encounters in the Lower Michigan Peninsula and beyond. From eerie rock-clacking sounds deep in the Huron National Forest to unsettling encounters in the Saginaw Bay area, Giles shares his experiences in vivid detail. His accounts span encounters with mysterious figures, unexplained lights, and even strange happenings at a family home. Giles recalls not just Sasquatch sightings but also other paranormal events that defy rational explanation. Don't miss this captivating recount of events that will leave you questioning reality and the unseen mysteries of Michigan.

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slash the Big for Society and now let's get on

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with the show. All right, Bigfod Society, But the privilege

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of talking to Giles tonight. Giles is a watcher over

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on the YouTube side and reached out about some interesting

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things he's experienced over on the Lower Michigan Peninsula on

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the east side of this state. Well, I believe it's

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the eastside. I guess we'll find out in a few minutes.

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But but Giles, welcome to the show. How's it going, man.

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It's going great. Thank you very much for having me.

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Absolutely kind of interesting, a little synchronicity. I was just

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talking to another gentleman on the show last night over

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in the Lake Huron area port here on State Game area,

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So you know, sometimes the show works kind of interestingly

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like that. But you know, Giles, I want to make

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sure you have all the time that you need to

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share what you've experienced. So I'm going to go ahead

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and feel free to take us back to when this

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started happening for you in any background that you'd like

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to share as well.

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All right, thanks, I'm just going to kick it off

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by apologizing in advance to any listeners that are angry

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about me stumbling overward and spent a long day for me.

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But my name is Giles. I'm a thirty eight year

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old man. I grew up in Michigan. My whole life,

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I've lived around the side west side of the state,

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and through my work, I've I've visited all over the state.

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Luckily enough, I got to I get to travel and

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see a lot of the state, and I've I spent

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a lot of my youth haunting, fishing, a lot of

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small game president hunting and things like that. So I'm

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pretty well versed and most everything outdoor sounds sites, you know, wildlife.

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No expert by any means, but I have a pretty

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firm understanding of what I'm hearing in the dark or

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what I'm seeing. You know, nothing really takes me by

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surprise very often, So I just want everyone to keep

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that in mind. I'm not a person that goes out

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looking for this stuff. I have a couple of times

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just with you know, through my interest meeting different people,

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but it's not something that I was ever looking for

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when I had these experiences. So I've had a lot

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of things that I can attribute to like that we're

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definitely not in and I can get into that later,

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but I'll start off, I guess with my first introduction

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to big Foot was I think I was in the

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fifth grade and I picked up a book in the library.

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I had, the famous Patterson Gimlin Patty Footed was still

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on the cover. I can't remember what it was called,

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but I remember being really fascinated, not so much with

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just the creature itself, but I guess like the mystery

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of what could be out there, you know that's not

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in mainstream knowledge. And I so soon after that, you know,

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probably it was thirteen, fourteen years old, I started getting

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more interested in girls and tend to lost interest in

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all that and completely forgot about it. So fast forward

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to I think it was two thousand and nine. A

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couple friends of mine, a married couple, they just got married.

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They wanted to go on a camping trip and I

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believe it was like a Wednesday because we were unemployed

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at the time, and we headed up to It's kind

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of our secret spot that our families have been going

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to for years and years, and I guess I'll try

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to get some background on that area. It's in between

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a mile and a town called Commons. They're Commons, I guess.

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I don't know how you pronounce it exactly, but it's

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in between those two towns, and it's in the here

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on national forests, and it's on like a little lake

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that's probably I guess. It takes probably twenty five minutes

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from the main road to drive on these two tracks

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and logging trails to get back there, and it's kind

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of tucked away, like snaked off on a trail that

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you can't really even tell it's there, so not many

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people know it's there. And I think there may be

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a cabin or two with, you know, maybe a half

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mile or a mile away through the woods, but you

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can't you certainly can't see them from the camping site.

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So we're camping back there. And this was in probably

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the first weekend of August of two thousand and nine,

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and I remember it being just like a normal camping trip,

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this hot August summer camping. And I believe it was

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the second night we were there, it was probably eleven

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or twelve. When we went to bed, we maybe had

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a couple of beers, you know, and like we weren't

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getting crazy. I mean, it's just three people out in

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the woods, you know, camping, and the fire died down

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whenever we go to bed, and it was, oh, I'll

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never forget it. I had an old Nokia brick phone,

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and as soon as I started getting this noise, it

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was just this pounding sound, and I woke up just

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I felt furious that we come up in the middle

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of the week to this kind of secret remote camping

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spot and you know, not a campground, and somebody has

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to come and set up a tent, because I thought

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it was somebody pounding in tent spikes or something like

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going wild. And I just turned over and looked at

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my It was three forty in the morning, and I

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was I went from being mad to being kind of

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confused because I wasn't understanding, like this didn't sound like

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a tense spike, you know. Once I kind of came

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to after a couple seconds and I just kind of

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sat up and was listening and got more curious. And

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as soon as I figured out what the sound was,

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I just got like almost petrified, like scared, just scared stiff.

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It was the sound of two What I would say

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is if you held both your fists together, if you

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had a pretty decent fist, like decent size, if you

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held both of them together that size rock, if you

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held one of each of those size rocks in each

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hand and just slammed them together, it was just rocks

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getting clacked together. And the only reason why I know,

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like I'm ninety nine percent sure that's what it was,

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is because I do construction, and when you're loading stuff

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into truck like that happens quite a bit because there's

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rock and rubble and whatever and what we're excavating, and

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it's a pretty distinct sound when it makes a quack sound,

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And that's exactly what I was hearing. And it just

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it was repetitive. I kept going and going for minutes.

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I mean I sat up just stiff of the board,

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and it never stopped until I I don't know if

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I passed out or what, but I just remember telling myself, like,

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you have to like just be quiet. I was trying

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not to make any noise at all. I could just

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hear my heart beating in my ears, and I was

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just confused and scared, and I just tried to lay

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down as quietly and slowly as I possibly could because

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the sound was only I would guess fifteen yards away,

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twenty yards maybe max. And it was kind of it

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was rhythmic, but it would it had ebbs and flows

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where it would it would slow down and get a

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little bit quieter, and the tempo would slow down and

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then it would just start right back up again. And

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like it was like like somebody was pounding them together

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and they were getting angry because they weren't getting a

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response or I don't know. It didn't make any sense

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and it still really doesn't to me. And uh, yeah,

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the next the next morning, I woke up and I, uh,

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I don't know if it was the next morning or

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before we left but I ended up going over to

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that area where I thought it was coming from, and

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there ended up being a sizeable rock. I would say,

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I don't know the size of a car hood. It

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was buried in the in the ground, but there's probably

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a foot of it protruding up and out of the

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ground from where it was unearthed. And uh. And I

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don't know if something was smashing a rock on that

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or what. I but there was probably a For the

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next month, I was asking anyone that I could ask, like,

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what could make that sound, you know? And the the

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closest thing I got was a few friends instead, maybe

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a bear when they get aggressive, I think they they

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will chop their their jaws together. And uh. So I

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looked up videos of that and it and audio of that,

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and it wasn't even close. It was well, it wasn't repetitive,

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you know, rhythmic, and it just was not loud enough

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in that same type of sound, and uh and then

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it was you know, it's probably a beaver and it

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you know, beaver don't smack their tails on the water

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repetitively like that for a minutes on end. So I

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never really understood what it was, and I just kind

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of filed it away as hey, I guess that was

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something weird that happened, you know, like, oh, well, nothing happened.

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So I got scared for enough and kind of felt

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like a like a wolf, so I just forgot about it.

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And then there were a few other add instances here

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and there of you know, just strange things that would

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happen to to me or me and my friends when

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we were in the woods. And then the next definitively strange,

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really strange thing happened on the lake shore of Lake

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here On actually technically the Saginaw Bay. It was a

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place they called Hidden Harbor. It's not called hidden Harbor

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on a map. It's just what local people call it.

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It's kind of by a whizner. Well, anyway, I went

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out there and it was I don't know, it must

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have been late October. I remember I went out because

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I was unemployed for the winter new excusional work, and

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I liked ice fish at the time, so I wanted

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to go out and see if there was any early

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ice forming because it was a early winter, and I

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wish I could tell you what year this was, if

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I had to guess, like maybe twenty fourteen to sixteen maybe. Anyway,

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I go out there and it's maybe eleven o'clock in

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the morning. I parked my vehicle and there's a dirt

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road that leads maybe a mile back, and then you

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hang a left along the bay shore and it goes

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I don't know, probably know. There's three quarters of a

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mile to this turnaround, and there's no houses around. There's

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maybe one cottage, like a couple miles down the shore,

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excuse me. And it was the one thing I remember

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is this area of Michigan is really really windy, like

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almost all the time, so it's pretty odd when it's

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really calm, and this day was extremely calm. The fragmites,

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the tops of the fragmites weren't even moving. And I

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guess for anyone that doesn't know a fragment, I believe

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that's how you pronounce it. It's like an overgrown cattail.

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I think they're avasive species from Africa or something. Well,

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they grow like fourteen feet tall if you know, it's

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given the right conditions, and they're just I mean thick.

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Is he on a dog? Well, they weren't even blowing.

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It was super calm. Walking out, I'm smoking a cigarette

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and I get walking down this trail and to the

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left of me is just a wall of fragmites. They

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were probably twelve feet tall, tends of twelve feet tall,

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and probably fifty sixty yards back. That's all it was

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was fragmites until there was a woodline. Then on the

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right was just scrub brush and little reed grass, and

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you know, nothing until you get to the water, you know,

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a few hundred yards away. So I'm walking along this

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trail and I get I don't know, maybe one hundred

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one hundred yards away from my vehicle, maybe less. It's

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been a while, so very with me. I might not

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be accurate with this. I was just walking and all

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of a sudden I heard something what I thought was

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a deer like stand up and kind of spin as

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if it was bedded down, and that that tell fragmite.

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And I just thought, oh, I just you know, spook

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the deer or whatever. No big deal. Keep walking. And

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I noticed the deer, you know, was kind of walking

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along with me, or what I thought was the deer

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was walking along with me, And you know, I just

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started thinking, oh, that's kind of cool. Maybe I'll I'll

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see a big buck or something. You know it'll pop

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out in front of me, and that's not what happened

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at all. I just kept walking and this thing, whatever,

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it was just almost like I made a beadline right

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towards me. It started, maybe I don't know, thirty to

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forty five yards away from me. When I heard initially

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heard this sound because that it makes clail a ruckus

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when you move around in that in that frag might

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it's just like a real, like swishy kind of sound.

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Well anyway, I could just hear it making a bee

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line like kind of towards me. I thought, man, that's

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kind of that's not normal deer behavior, you know, because

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that's really the only big animals we have around here.

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There's no real bear. There's mountain lion, but they don't

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really say that there is. They won't admit it, and

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that there's not really that many. So this is what

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I'm thinking, is deer making a beer d line right

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towards me. And it started. The closer it got, it

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started sounding different, like it wasn't like a deer. It

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sounded like something on two legs. And then before I

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know it, the thing's like on top of me. It's big.

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For society will be right back after these messages.

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It's exactly parallel to my left right clock position, and

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it's it sounds like it's maybe ten yards away at

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this point, like and I probably have five yards in

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between me and those frag mights, so it's only five

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yards into the frag might and it's just walking along

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with me. And then it started mimicking my footsteps, and

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like when I say mimicking, I don't, I don't mean

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like it was trying to sound bipel like it was.

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It was stepping exactly when I was stepping, I mean exactly.

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And I don't know why I didn't. I didn't think

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that was, hey, this is something's wrong. I just thought like,

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oh that's cool, and I'd stop and it would stop

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exactly like. There was no extra noise from it moving

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when I wasn't moving. It was only when I would

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make any noise or move, it would move. And I

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stopped probably six seven times. I just I would go

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and i'd stop, and i'd go and I'd stop, and

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I should have turned around and knew something was wrong,

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but I just kept going. And the longer I went,

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the all of a sudden like the fear like something

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is wrong, here started kicking in, so I backed away

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and I started shouting at whatever I thought this was

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a person. And I'm shouting all kinds of expletives and

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I'm threatening this person. I'm telling them I have a

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gun and I'm gonna you know what, And and I

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was I was just screaming. I was both angry and

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just scared, like really like primal fear like I had.

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I don't know how to explain it. It just I

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don't know. It felt like I was being toyed with,

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like it was very intrusive, like it was I don't know,

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like something was calling under my skin like this. I

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don't know how to explain it. It just it felt wrong.

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And anyway, this thing wasn't making any noise. It was

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just standing there. As I'm standing there trying to spot

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any kind of movement over top of the frag mighte

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or like hear anything. I couldn't see anything, I couldn't

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hear anything. So there was a pile of rocks just

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within reach, almost from where I stopped, and I grabbed

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a handful of rocks and I just started throwing these

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rocks all over where that thing was like just peppering

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that area. I must have thrown at least a dozen,

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probably softball to baseball size, and it never once made

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a noise. All I heard was just the rocks sutting

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into the thick muck that's the ground under those fragmites.

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And after I did that, I was I went from

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like scared to like just I don't know, the most

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frightened I've ever been in my life. Like I I

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was just waiting for something to come out of those

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frag mightes and just get me, because I I don't

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know when when things like that happen. I don't know

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how it works for everybody, but for me, it's almost

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like my brain knew that, like this is wrong. There's

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something wrong, and we need to get out of here,

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or we need to figure something out, like do something

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about this, But my brain was trying to rationalize it,

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like I was trying to be logical about something that

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I had no idea what it was, you know, like

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there was no logical explanation for anything. But I was

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still trying to sort that out, Like I was going

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back and forth. I remember like thinking like, oh, this

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it's just a deer. It's just a deer, Like stop

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freaking out. It's just a deer. And then the next second,

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I'm thinking, but it was mimicking my footsteps. It was

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like it had to be two legged. How do it

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make that exact footstep like me? And it was just

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a complete back and forth of my logical brain versus

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what I'm actually experiencing, if that makes any sense. So

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I'm struggling with this, trying to figure out what it

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is what I'm experiencing, and it hasn't. These rocks I'm

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throwing at it has no effect. So I get the

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like this peak scared, and I start walking back backwards

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just you know, my head was on a swivel, just

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looking left and right into those draglites, and this thing

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went from you know, it seems like it was kind

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of toying with me or you know, curious too. I

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don't know if I angered this thing or what happened,

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but it didn't seem like I cared about but what

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kind of noise it made or how loud it was being.

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I wasn't trying to be sneaky or playful or whatever

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it was being. It was told demeanor changed in the

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way that it was making noise through this foliage, and

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something else I should have a big detail I guess

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I missed was when this thing was walking. I can't

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stress you enough how almost impossible it is to walk

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through that stuff without making noise in the foliage, like

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without that sound that you're basically swimming through it. And

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this thing all I could hear is the footsteps. I

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could not hear any of that fragment scraping on it

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or rubbing on it. The other fragment. I couldn't hear

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any of that. It's and I still I still struggle

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with that. That doesn't make any sense. Like it was

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almost like that might sound crazy, but this thing was

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like its body was passing through the vegetation, but I

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could hear it like its feet where That's all I

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could hear was its feet. I don't know I sound.

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I know I sound kind of out there, but that

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that's the only way I can explain it. Well. Anyway,

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as I'm walking back through or back away, it's just

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progressively getting kind of louder with its footsteps, and it's

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going through the foliage, and I can actually hear the

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fragmike kind of moving around, but I could not see anything.

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There was no movement, no nothing, and I still had

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a couple of rocks in my hand, and I turned

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my body and I'm starting to kind of jog with

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my head on a swivel, like looking behind me, and

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I must have been maybe ten yards from my vehicle,

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and I just dropped those rocks and I literally was

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running for my life. I was just running as fast

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as I could. I ran right into the side of

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my vehicle, opened up my car door, got in it,

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and I never looked left. I just started my vehicle

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and just took off. And I don't think I told

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anyone about that for at least a couple of years.

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It's almost like I just come like it was too

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much for my brain to handle, and it was just like,

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forget about it. That's what I did, Like it never

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even happened until one day, probably a couple of years later,

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a friend of mine had asked, Hey, should we go

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ice fish out of Hidden Harbor? And it was like

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as soon as he said the hidden harbor where this happened,

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it was like a light switch and I just was like, Oh,

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my gosh, did I ever tell you about what happened

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to me out there? And he's like kind of laughing.

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He goes, no, got what happened, you know, and I

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explained to him. And I've never told anyone that, like

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the first experience or my second, this encounter at Hidden Harbor,

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was ever a bigfoot or any anything. But I don't

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know what else it could be. You know, if anyone

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has a better idea, you can tell me what it

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is in the comments that I might have experienced, because

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I'd love for it to be something explainable. It's it's

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much better to to think it's something and that's normal

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on to always wonder what was that, and just to

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kind of have that unknown fear in the back of

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your mind every time you go into the world. But anyway,

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sorry I'm rambling. So my third experience was it would

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have been not this past October, but the one before.

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I was traveling to work, and again it was, yeah, October.

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I don't know, colleague, mid October because there was still

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corns double in the field like it had just been harvested,

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So it had to been mid to late October, and

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I'm traveling to work. It's a very very light fog day.

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The visibility wasn't really effective, but there was a light fog.

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It's about eight o'clock in the morning at fifteen and

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I was traveling down Argyle Road, which is in the

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thumb of Michigan. Right, it would be south east of Cassidy, Michigan.

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Again Argyle Road, and I was traveling down and just

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before the intersection of Kinnebog Road, there's a I crested

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over a little hill and I went down into a

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valley and there was another hill I was coming up. Well.

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As I get down to the bottom of that valley,

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I would just happen to glance to my left and

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I noticed this huge figure and I did one of

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those like where you go to you only meant to

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look left for a second and put your eyes back

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on the road. And I looked left, and my head

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went back towards the road, but my eyes never left

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this thing. I was just like in amazement, like this

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guy is huge. There's a huge person, like the biggest

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person I've ever seen. So my eyes never left it,

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and my head goes back and there was just this

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hulking figure, probably fifty yards off the road. It may

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have been a little bit farther because I only got

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three to four good seconds of actual visual of this,

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and it was I would have to. At first, I

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thought it was maybe seven and a half, maybe to

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eight and a half feet tall, But I think it

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may have been a little further off the road than

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what I initially thought, so it could have been I mean,

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eight and a half maybe nine feet tall, I'm not sure,

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but it was a huge what I thought was a man,

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and my initial impression of it was I thought it was.

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A a farm hand or a farm worker, just a huge

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corn fred country boy walking back to the tractor.

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Or something to the field, because it was it was

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almost like they had their hood up and they were

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head was kind of like towards the ground, as if

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you know, the thought of like, oh, man, I guess

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I gotta go get this tractor. You know, it's son

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of a gun kind of kind of thought, as they're

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just head down walking towards the end of the field. Well,

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the more I looked at this, the more it just

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didn't make sense. It was too big. It was all

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one color. And when I say one color, like, do

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you know the like those like the blackest black paint

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that the like theyll paint cars and stuff. Do you

439
00:26:14.079 --> 00:26:15.240
know what I mean? That color?

440
00:26:15.359 --> 00:26:16.000
Yeaste?

441
00:26:16.240 --> 00:26:20.319
Yes? Like how it doesn't have any kind of reflection,

442
00:26:20.480 --> 00:26:22.720
Like you can point a flashlight at it basically, and

443
00:26:22.880 --> 00:26:25.880
like it doesn't reflect any light back. It was it

444
00:26:25.920 --> 00:26:29.480
was like this thing was just a silhouette of this

445
00:26:30.200 --> 00:26:34.599
brown red color, like if it was kind of the

446
00:26:34.640 --> 00:26:38.799
color of a of a car heart jacket, but not

447
00:26:38.920 --> 00:26:40.839
car heart brand, like the like a kind of an

448
00:26:40.839 --> 00:26:43.039
off brand that's a little more like a red color.

449
00:26:43.480 --> 00:26:46.119
That's a that's the color. It was like a like

450
00:26:46.200 --> 00:26:51.720
a Calico cats, like the rust color of the calico.

451
00:26:53.079 --> 00:26:57.759
And just the more I looked at the more it

452
00:26:57.799 --> 00:27:00.720
didn't make sense. I looked at it right from toe

453
00:27:00.880 --> 00:27:05.599
to head, and I was looking for, you know, if

454
00:27:05.640 --> 00:27:07.720
I was wearing gloves or a hat or something. It

455
00:27:07.759 --> 00:27:10.680
was all just one solid color the whole way up

456
00:27:11.640 --> 00:27:16.279
and it was I know it was moving. I know

457
00:27:16.400 --> 00:27:19.599
I saw it moving, But all I can remember in

458
00:27:19.599 --> 00:27:22.079
my head is just a still shot of one of

459
00:27:22.079 --> 00:27:24.880
its arms almost parallel next to its body and the

460
00:27:24.920 --> 00:27:27.079
other one just starting to come up, and like it

461
00:27:27.160 --> 00:27:31.039
was just like a freeze frame, if you will. But

462
00:27:31.160 --> 00:27:33.640
I know I saw it moving, I know I did,

463
00:27:34.880 --> 00:27:37.759
but I just I can't. I don't know. I don't

464
00:27:37.759 --> 00:27:41.880
remember that part. But I can visually remember the exact

465
00:27:41.920 --> 00:27:46.839
silhouette of it, just the profile, the side profile. And

466
00:27:48.799 --> 00:27:52.519
I moved my head back towards the rogue cause I

467
00:27:52.519 --> 00:27:53.839
was going up the hill. I didn't want to get

468
00:27:53.839 --> 00:27:56.240
in an accident. And as fast as I could, I

469
00:27:56.319 --> 00:27:59.880
moved my head back and the thing was gone. I

470
00:28:00.119 --> 00:28:04.319
don't know where it could have went. It was fifty

471
00:28:04.400 --> 00:28:06.920
yards from the ditch that was right next to me

472
00:28:07.039 --> 00:28:09.319
up on the road, and it was probably one hundred

473
00:28:09.359 --> 00:28:11.640
and fifty yards from the ditch that it was going towards.

474
00:28:12.240 --> 00:28:16.160
And the corn stubble was only six inches high. And

475
00:28:16.240 --> 00:28:21.200
this thing's here's another detail I forgot. This thing's chest

476
00:28:21.440 --> 00:28:26.119
was wider than what my shoulders are wide. It was

477
00:28:27.000 --> 00:28:29.039
its chest had to be at least two and a

478
00:28:29.079 --> 00:28:31.599
half feet deep. It was that was the thing that

479
00:28:31.680 --> 00:28:34.240
really stood out to me was it was just a

480
00:28:34.279 --> 00:28:41.279
barrel chested figure. And it wasn't like a ripped physique

481
00:28:41.079 --> 00:28:45.359
like like a bodybuilder. It was like more like a

482
00:28:46.880 --> 00:28:50.000
like a World's Strongest Man type of build where it

483
00:28:50.039 --> 00:28:52.119
didn't have a beer belly, but it was it didn't

484
00:28:52.119 --> 00:28:55.759
look like it was, you know, like it had washboard ads.

485
00:28:56.440 --> 00:28:58.720
It's that I don't know. It's hard to tell, I

486
00:28:58.720 --> 00:29:05.759
guess because it was all just one color, and that's

487
00:29:05.799 --> 00:29:07.839
the one thing that stood out, was just its chest

488
00:29:07.920 --> 00:29:09.480
and the fact that it looked like it was wearing

489
00:29:09.480 --> 00:29:15.160
a hood, like it had no neck. Well anyway, I uh,

490
00:29:16.440 --> 00:29:18.839
I just kept trucking down the road, and I wish

491
00:29:18.880 --> 00:29:20.680
I would have turned around. Whish I would have went

492
00:29:20.759 --> 00:29:24.160
back into that farmer's field and looked at their tracks, like, uh,

493
00:29:25.559 --> 00:29:27.200
just a lot of would have should you would should

494
00:29:27.200 --> 00:29:31.720
have could as and oh in my first encounter. The

495
00:29:31.720 --> 00:29:33.519
one really weird thing.

496
00:29:33.319 --> 00:29:37.559
That that bothered me as well with the rock clacking

497
00:29:37.759 --> 00:29:40.960
was that whole time when I was sitting up listening

498
00:29:41.039 --> 00:29:44.440
to this rock clacking, the couple was sleeping in.

499
00:29:44.480 --> 00:29:48.039
An air mattress right next to me, on a separate

500
00:29:48.039 --> 00:29:52.119
air mattress, of course, but they never woke up. They

501
00:29:52.160 --> 00:29:53.839
didn't know what I was talking about. When I brought

502
00:29:53.839 --> 00:29:55.519
it up later when they were leaving, I said, hey,

503
00:29:55.519 --> 00:29:57.480
do you guys, did you guys hear that on you know,

504
00:29:57.559 --> 00:30:00.400
Thursday night or whatever night it was, And they had

505
00:30:00.480 --> 00:30:03.400
no idea. They didn't wake up because I almost thought

506
00:30:03.920 --> 00:30:05.920
that they had to be awake too, and they were

507
00:30:05.920 --> 00:30:09.119
in the same position of just like petrified, like they

508
00:30:09.200 --> 00:30:11.400
just couldn't speak or move, you know, they were just

509
00:30:12.039 --> 00:30:14.559
kind of freaked out. But that wasn't the case, like

510
00:30:14.640 --> 00:30:17.680
they had no idea what I was talking about. And

511
00:30:17.799 --> 00:30:19.839
I don't know how you sleep through something like that.

512
00:30:20.039 --> 00:30:25.319
I mean it was loud, but yeah, I'm sorry if

513
00:30:25.359 --> 00:30:29.000
I'm rushing through things. I'm just that I've just been

514
00:30:29.039 --> 00:30:30.920
a long day, big for a society.

515
00:30:30.920 --> 00:30:51.160
Who will be right back after these messages? You are,

516
00:30:51.279 --> 00:30:58.000
You are doing absolutely great. It's some extremely interesting things

517
00:30:58.000 --> 00:31:00.440
that have come up so far. Have you heard of

518
00:31:00.480 --> 00:31:04.519
any other things happening in that here on National Forest area?

519
00:31:08.359 --> 00:31:12.880
Firsthand knowledge, I I can't speak on I don't know

520
00:31:12.920 --> 00:31:16.599
anybody's stories that I personally know that they've told me,

521
00:31:17.119 --> 00:31:22.440
but I know throughout just probably the last eight years

522
00:31:22.440 --> 00:31:25.039
of me just diving into like trying to listen to

523
00:31:25.079 --> 00:31:29.039
every story, every encounter, like keeping up with certain you know,

524
00:31:29.119 --> 00:31:32.759
Facebook groups. There's a lot of encounters. And it seems

525
00:31:32.799 --> 00:31:36.119
like the west side of the state because the Huron

526
00:31:36.200 --> 00:31:40.759
Manistee National Forest spans from one side of the state

527
00:31:40.799 --> 00:31:43.000
to the other in the lower Peninsula, it's kind of

528
00:31:43.000 --> 00:31:46.319
like a rainbow arc across the whole state, and most

529
00:31:46.359 --> 00:31:49.519
people refer to the right, they're the east side towards

530
00:31:49.559 --> 00:31:53.680
the Huron Lake Hereon as the Heuron National Forest, and

531
00:31:53.799 --> 00:31:59.160
then they'll described the west side of Lake Michigan as

532
00:31:59.200 --> 00:32:02.759
the Manistee National Forests. But I believe it's all technically

533
00:32:02.759 --> 00:32:05.799
the here On National or here On Manistee National Forests.

534
00:32:06.559 --> 00:32:09.880
But it seems like on the west side there's actually

535
00:32:09.960 --> 00:32:13.799
quite a few reports of like dog men activity and

536
00:32:14.119 --> 00:32:20.359
things like that. But it seems like specifically like Ascota

537
00:32:20.440 --> 00:32:23.920
County around Mayo, Michigan, there seems to be a lot

538
00:32:23.960 --> 00:32:28.880
of encounters, like way way more than what I would think,

539
00:32:29.000 --> 00:32:32.599
because when I think of Michigan, it's it's the peninsula,

540
00:32:32.920 --> 00:32:38.039
and you would just think, you know, it would have

541
00:32:38.079 --> 00:32:40.400
to be hard for animals to travel around, you know,

542
00:32:40.559 --> 00:32:46.359
like with a limited border, you know. But it's there

543
00:32:46.359 --> 00:32:49.480
seems to be a ton of sightings now, Like locally

544
00:32:49.559 --> 00:32:55.559
around where I live. I know personally three people that

545
00:32:55.599 --> 00:33:00.880
have had either sightings or really bizarre encounter and experiences

546
00:33:00.920 --> 00:33:05.279
that don't really add up to much other than it.

547
00:33:05.279 --> 00:33:08.720
It sounds like it's a bigfoot way more than what

548
00:33:08.839 --> 00:33:11.039
I would have would have ever thought, you know, I

549
00:33:11.119 --> 00:33:15.200
kind of thought that was like the one unlucky out

550
00:33:15.200 --> 00:33:17.359
of a million people that like, you know, something really

551
00:33:17.359 --> 00:33:19.440
odd happened, you know, and I just couldn't explain it.

552
00:33:19.519 --> 00:33:23.559
But it seems like, genuinely there is way more sightings

553
00:33:23.599 --> 00:33:27.359
and experiences than what a person would think, especially for

554
00:33:27.440 --> 00:33:33.880
being in a peninsula of a state. So uh, but

555
00:33:33.880 --> 00:33:38.839
but yeah, I can explain a couple of a couple

556
00:33:38.839 --> 00:33:41.559
of people that I know personally. I can give you

557
00:33:41.640 --> 00:33:44.480
a second hand account of what they experienced if you'd.

558
00:33:44.359 --> 00:33:47.519
Like, yeah, just real quick before you do that. I

559
00:33:48.039 --> 00:33:51.720
did want to say that area that you were talking

560
00:33:51.759 --> 00:33:55.279
about in here on National Forest it's I looked it up.

561
00:33:55.319 --> 00:33:59.440
It's like half an hour away from a town called Glenny,

562
00:33:59.640 --> 00:34:05.519
which had an episode on the show. Well it's probably

563
00:34:05.519 --> 00:34:07.319
about year a year and a half ago about a

564
00:34:07.359 --> 00:34:11.440
police officer on vacation that was had a standoff with

565
00:34:11.519 --> 00:34:15.480
a big foot at a family cabin. So I mean, yeah,

566
00:34:15.519 --> 00:34:18.679
there's there's things that are happening in this area. And

567
00:34:18.719 --> 00:34:23.079
you're also right that the Manistee National Forest House usually

568
00:34:23.159 --> 00:34:24.960
referred to on the west side, there's a lot of

569
00:34:24.960 --> 00:34:28.159
dog man stuff over there. There is some bigfoot stuff too.

570
00:34:28.239 --> 00:34:31.880
There's some there's some interesting things you can you can

571
00:34:31.920 --> 00:34:34.440
dig up over there. But yeah, if you would like

572
00:34:34.519 --> 00:34:39.760
to to share that some other things you're you're more

573
00:34:39.800 --> 00:34:40.519
than welcome to do.

574
00:34:40.599 --> 00:34:44.719
So okay, okay, yeah, I didn't know if I'm rambling.

575
00:34:44.800 --> 00:34:45.599
Oh you're great.

576
00:34:45.679 --> 00:34:51.360
Yeah. So there's I won't name any names obviously, because

577
00:34:52.119 --> 00:34:56.159
you know, just their sake, but there's a young lady

578
00:34:57.159 --> 00:35:00.320
that I've been friends with on and off since Stunt

579
00:35:00.400 --> 00:35:05.840
High School, and her and her boyfriend at the time,

580
00:35:06.000 --> 00:35:09.480
they were camping up along I want to say it

581
00:35:09.519 --> 00:35:15.840
was along the Rifle River up and oh no, I'm sorry.

582
00:35:15.880 --> 00:35:19.599
It was the Ostable River and that's along the east

583
00:35:19.639 --> 00:35:23.199
side of the state. And they're at this privative campsite.

584
00:35:23.760 --> 00:35:27.480
I believe you had the canoe or kayak or paddle

585
00:35:27.559 --> 00:35:29.639
to get into. It was only water access, so it's

586
00:35:29.679 --> 00:35:32.679
kind of remote, and all these campsites are spaced out well,

587
00:35:32.719 --> 00:35:35.000
I guess there was nobody else really camping around them.

588
00:35:35.199 --> 00:35:39.639
They kind of had the place for themselves, and they,

589
00:35:40.840 --> 00:35:43.840
from what she told me, their tent was set up

590
00:35:45.360 --> 00:35:50.639
just about ten feet away from this mound or this hill,

591
00:35:52.519 --> 00:35:54.199
and then it kind of dropped off into the woods

592
00:35:54.239 --> 00:35:58.159
back behind this hill, and she said they were up

593
00:35:58.199 --> 00:36:01.679
one night. It sound like it was. It was dark

594
00:36:01.719 --> 00:36:03.639
in the summer, so I'm assuming it was, you know,

595
00:36:03.679 --> 00:36:07.440
after kind o'clock at night, probably before midnight. She said

596
00:36:07.480 --> 00:36:13.320
they started smelling something. And I can't remember what she

597
00:36:13.480 --> 00:36:17.920
described the smell, as I know it was really bad.

598
00:36:18.719 --> 00:36:21.119
She used the word futred to describe it, I believe.

599
00:36:21.880 --> 00:36:27.440
But they started smelling something and then they started smiling

600
00:36:27.480 --> 00:36:30.840
a little stronger, and then about fifteen minutes later, they

601
00:36:30.920 --> 00:36:36.519
started hearing what she described as just grunting like and

602
00:36:36.639 --> 00:36:39.400
like like snorting, like something was sniff in the air, like,

603
00:36:40.239 --> 00:36:46.840
but it's sinuses weren't clear like it was. And I'm

604
00:36:46.880 --> 00:36:49.599
sorry making an idiot out of myself, but that's that's

605
00:36:49.639 --> 00:36:55.000
the basic device, is what she was explaining. And I

606
00:36:55.039 --> 00:36:58.440
guess from what I'm remembering, her boyfriend was really into

607
00:36:59.039 --> 00:37:03.280
finding Bigfoot because that was on at the time, and

608
00:37:03.360 --> 00:37:05.239
he was like, well, if we have guests, you know,

609
00:37:05.320 --> 00:37:07.800
we should how would you treat a guest you should?

610
00:37:07.920 --> 00:37:10.519
You know, off from something. So I guess he was

611
00:37:11.000 --> 00:37:14.880
taking pieces of I believe, beef jerky and he was

612
00:37:15.000 --> 00:37:18.239
throwing him on the other side of the hill. And

613
00:37:18.599 --> 00:37:21.280
from what I remember, right, he had told me this

614
00:37:21.440 --> 00:37:24.639
probably five years ago, so a few details might be

615
00:37:24.639 --> 00:37:27.559
a little off, but from what I'm remembering is the

616
00:37:28.079 --> 00:37:31.559
grunting and the smells and everything started like ramping up

617
00:37:31.719 --> 00:37:35.320
to a point where she wasn't comfortable, and they ended

618
00:37:35.400 --> 00:37:38.519
up just hunkering down in their tent and just riding

619
00:37:38.519 --> 00:37:41.199
it out through the night. And she said the grunting

620
00:37:41.239 --> 00:37:44.480
and the snorting kind of just kept up until they

621
00:37:44.760 --> 00:37:47.239
went to sleep, and they woke up the next day.

622
00:37:47.400 --> 00:37:52.440
Nothing else happened. There was another gentleman. I don't know

623
00:37:52.480 --> 00:37:56.440
what year this happened. It was just a friend of

624
00:37:56.440 --> 00:38:02.559
mine and his dad and one of his dad's friends

625
00:38:03.360 --> 00:38:07.079
sitting here and we were just casually drinking a couple

626
00:38:07.079 --> 00:38:11.719
of beers, just you know, just shooting the craft, and

627
00:38:11.800 --> 00:38:15.239
for whatever reason, my buddy's dad just kind of starts

628
00:38:15.719 --> 00:38:19.840
getting in. Something got brought up about Bigfoot or sasquatch.

629
00:38:19.920 --> 00:38:23.159
For whatever reason. I wasn't into the topic or anything

630
00:38:23.199 --> 00:38:26.280
at this point in time, so I had no dog

631
00:38:26.320 --> 00:38:29.360
in the fight. And he said something about, oh tell

632
00:38:29.400 --> 00:38:33.039
him your story. Go ahead and tell him, and you

633
00:38:33.079 --> 00:38:35.880
could tell this guy did not want to tell his story.

634
00:38:35.920 --> 00:38:38.320
He's like, oh, no, no, whatever, whatever, you know, just

635
00:38:38.400 --> 00:38:40.840
kind of laughing off, trying to do anything to just

636
00:38:40.880 --> 00:38:44.639
not talk about it. And he just kept harping on

637
00:38:44.679 --> 00:38:46.920
the guy. And finally I looked at him, like, hey man,

638
00:38:47.039 --> 00:38:50.119
you can tell me whatever. I you know, weird stuff happens,

639
00:38:50.239 --> 00:38:53.760
you know, if you saw something, you know, just I'm

640
00:38:53.760 --> 00:38:58.559
not going to judge you. So this older gentleman starts

641
00:38:58.559 --> 00:39:02.119
telling me the story. He says, all right, I'll tell you.

642
00:39:04.679 --> 00:39:09.280
He said he opened up his door to go out

643
00:39:09.280 --> 00:39:11.400
of his house the one day, and around his whole

644
00:39:11.440 --> 00:39:16.199
house was cornfield, and he had a bargain standing maybe

645
00:39:17.159 --> 00:39:20.639
twenty yards away off the road, and on the other

646
00:39:20.679 --> 00:39:22.719
side of the road wasn't more corn and it was

647
00:39:22.800 --> 00:39:26.639
probably six feet tall seven feet tall, So I'm assuming

648
00:39:26.679 --> 00:39:31.760
this was August, maybe September when this occurred. He said.

649
00:39:31.920 --> 00:39:36.480
He looked, he opened his door and on the top

650
00:39:36.519 --> 00:39:40.320
of the cornfield, like coming out from behind his barn

651
00:39:40.519 --> 00:39:43.320
on the side of his yard, he saw the shoulders

652
00:39:43.320 --> 00:39:47.199
and the head of this black what he said was

653
00:39:47.639 --> 00:39:51.880
a big flip. He said he watched it walk slow down,

654
00:39:52.960 --> 00:39:56.000
go down through the ditch and just slowly like it

655
00:39:56.119 --> 00:39:59.320
owned the place, walk right across the road, go down

656
00:39:59.360 --> 00:40:02.400
the ditch, walk back up the other embankment, and just

657
00:40:02.559 --> 00:40:05.760
continue walking through that cornfield until he couldn't see it anymore.

658
00:40:06.760 --> 00:40:12.440
And the thing was apparently heading towards the north. And

659
00:40:12.519 --> 00:40:16.079
this happened in a town called by a town called Sebling,

660
00:40:16.960 --> 00:40:20.159
And where this thing was heading would have been heading

661
00:40:20.199 --> 00:40:24.360
like almost straight towards town. It was only literally a

662
00:40:24.400 --> 00:40:27.559
mile and a half of the crow flies from a town,

663
00:40:28.519 --> 00:40:31.320
which I don't know if that makes any sense, because

664
00:40:31.760 --> 00:40:34.599
the way, especially in the Thumb area of Michigan is

665
00:40:34.599 --> 00:40:39.639
where I'm from, there's towns probably every ten to fifteen

666
00:40:39.639 --> 00:40:41.840
miles apart, maybe five if they're kind of closed, and

667
00:40:41.840 --> 00:40:46.519
they're all just little, tiny towns. So I like, I

668
00:40:46.559 --> 00:40:50.480
don't know why something would be almost on purposely going

669
00:40:50.519 --> 00:40:54.599
towards the town when almost any other direction is solitude.

670
00:40:55.039 --> 00:40:57.960
There's just houses scattered here and there, and you know,

671
00:40:58.119 --> 00:41:02.239
just do country roads. So I always thought that, like

672
00:41:02.280 --> 00:41:04.840
that was really weird. But I have no reason to

673
00:41:04.880 --> 00:41:08.480
not believe the guy. I mean, he honestly didn't even

674
00:41:08.480 --> 00:41:10.800
really want to tell a story, so it kind of

675
00:41:10.880 --> 00:41:14.119
makes me feel like he's probably credible. But that was

676
00:41:14.159 --> 00:41:16.159
the first person that I ever met that I actually like,

677
00:41:16.280 --> 00:41:18.320
was serious about him. Was like, yeah, that's what I saw.

678
00:41:18.400 --> 00:41:22.079
You know, what what can you do about it? And

679
00:41:22.159 --> 00:41:26.199
there was there was one other, a couple older gentlemen.

680
00:41:26.280 --> 00:41:28.599
When I was I must have been seventeen. I was

681
00:41:28.639 --> 00:41:31.440
at a high school graduation party, probably having a few beers,

682
00:41:31.440 --> 00:41:35.679
and these two older gentlemen were something. Somebody was talking

683
00:41:35.679 --> 00:41:41.400
about bigfooters, talking about something, and they said something about bayfoot,

684
00:41:41.639 --> 00:41:44.679
and I just remember think I looked at him and

685
00:41:44.679 --> 00:41:47.440
I said, what do you say. He said, yeah, that

686
00:41:47.559 --> 00:41:50.360
that bayfoot things out there. You guys ought to be

687
00:41:50.400 --> 00:41:53.719
careful at bayfoot. And I'm like, are you talking about

688
00:41:53.760 --> 00:41:56.800
like bigfoot? And he's like, yeah, but here, like on

689
00:41:56.920 --> 00:42:00.519
the Saginaw Bay. And I just thought the guy was crazy.

690
00:42:00.880 --> 00:42:04.760
I was like, you gotta be kidding me. And well,

691
00:42:05.320 --> 00:42:07.639
years later now I don't think he's so crazy. You know,

692
00:42:07.760 --> 00:42:10.239
I've had my own things happen that I can't explain,

693
00:42:10.679 --> 00:42:13.039
whether it was bigfoot or bayfoot, whatever you want to

694
00:42:13.079 --> 00:42:15.880
call it, or or I don't know what it was,

695
00:42:15.920 --> 00:42:19.280
but it doesn't make any sense, you know. But I

696
00:42:20.000 --> 00:42:23.519
for years after that, I just you know, I don't

697
00:42:23.519 --> 00:42:25.840
think people realize, you know, people that want to see

698
00:42:25.960 --> 00:42:31.599
or experience something. I don't think people realize truly what

699
00:42:31.679 --> 00:42:34.360
kind of shock to your system and reality it is.

700
00:42:35.400 --> 00:42:44.079
It is incredibly jarring. I it was. It's it's almost like,

701
00:42:44.119 --> 00:42:49.079
how do you believe anything when when I myself have

702
00:42:49.159 --> 00:42:52.800
been like making fun over like not believing, thinking these

703
00:42:52.800 --> 00:42:55.400
people are on something or full of it telling me

704
00:42:55.480 --> 00:42:58.199
these encounters, and then I have almost the exact same

705
00:42:58.400 --> 00:43:01.760
type of things happen, and I'm wrestling with it, you know,

706
00:43:01.800 --> 00:43:04.280
And then I was making fun of that guy. I

707
00:43:04.320 --> 00:43:07.000
don't know. It just didn't sit well with me. And

708
00:43:07.039 --> 00:43:09.000
I really had to wrestle with that for a long time.

709
00:43:09.760 --> 00:43:13.440
And and finding people that you you can actually talk

710
00:43:13.480 --> 00:43:15.800
to or that won't laugh at you about it, and

711
00:43:15.960 --> 00:43:18.079
they'll just, you know, listen, and that's all, you know,

712
00:43:18.239 --> 00:43:22.440
not not judge. That means the world to people, at

713
00:43:22.519 --> 00:43:25.239
least the people I know that have had experiences, because

714
00:43:26.039 --> 00:43:29.599
it's so easy to laugh it off and say, oh,

715
00:43:29.639 --> 00:43:31.760
you must have been on something or you know this

716
00:43:31.880 --> 00:43:37.119
or that or the other thing. But there's been a

717
00:43:37.239 --> 00:43:39.400
there's been a few other odd things that have happened

718
00:43:39.440 --> 00:43:41.480
to me. Personally, I can. I can kind of quick

719
00:43:41.519 --> 00:43:44.239
go through if you want, or it's not really uh

720
00:43:45.280 --> 00:43:51.119
Bigfoot related, but it's definitely paranormal and just kind of

721
00:43:51.840 --> 00:43:52.760
just really odd.

722
00:43:53.480 --> 00:43:54.400
Yeah, go right ahead.

723
00:43:56.239 --> 00:44:01.800
Okay. So, one really really weird thing that had happened

724
00:44:02.800 --> 00:44:04.480
was I was living with my parents at the time,

725
00:44:04.480 --> 00:44:07.360
and I don't know what year this was. I want

726
00:44:07.400 --> 00:44:14.559
to say I was probably mid twenties, maybe young twenties. Well, anyway,

727
00:44:15.599 --> 00:44:18.480
one night, it must have been eleven o'clock in the summer.

728
00:44:18.559 --> 00:44:24.280
So I was at our sink and there's a window

729
00:44:24.320 --> 00:44:27.119
that overlooks towards the south over a backyard or my

730
00:44:27.199 --> 00:44:30.639
parents' backyard, right over the sink, and I happened to

731
00:44:31.360 --> 00:44:34.119
notice something out of the left hand side of the window,

732
00:44:34.760 --> 00:44:37.960
and I looked over and as soon as I saw it,

733
00:44:37.960 --> 00:44:39.920
I said, hey, Mom, look at this. Come here and

734
00:44:40.039 --> 00:44:43.920
look at this. And it was what I can only

735
00:44:44.559 --> 00:44:48.079
describe as a It looked like a helicopter with a

736
00:44:48.119 --> 00:44:51.559
spotlight shining down, but there was no marking lights on

737
00:44:51.760 --> 00:44:56.800
this quote unquote helicopter. It was just like a beam

738
00:44:56.880 --> 00:44:57.360
in the sky.

739
00:44:58.039 --> 00:45:00.800
Big So society will be right back after these messages.

740
00:45:16.840 --> 00:45:20.639
That was just I mean Hall and mail. It was moving.

741
00:45:20.920 --> 00:45:22.719
If I don't know what the speed it was going.

742
00:45:22.800 --> 00:45:28.519
It was going I don't know, one hundred and fifty

743
00:45:28.559 --> 00:45:31.559
miles an hour, probably more. I mean, I don't know

744
00:45:31.639 --> 00:45:34.800
it was it was really moving and it was only

745
00:45:37.320 --> 00:45:42.360
I would say, eighty foot above this ditch. And when

746
00:45:42.400 --> 00:45:44.400
I say it's a ditch, it's called the State Drain,

747
00:45:44.480 --> 00:45:50.079
and it's probably forty feet across and thirty feet deep.

748
00:45:51.960 --> 00:45:55.719
So it's not a small geological or a small feature

749
00:45:55.719 --> 00:45:57.559
in the land. It's kind of a huge It's like

750
00:45:57.599 --> 00:46:00.960
a huge river, and this thing was going directly over

751
00:46:01.039 --> 00:46:05.440
top of it, just I mean Holland and this and

752
00:46:05.519 --> 00:46:09.199
it probably passed by my house. It's maybe a quarter

753
00:46:09.239 --> 00:46:12.480
mile from my parents' house. So you would think you'd

754
00:46:12.480 --> 00:46:14.719
be able to hear a helicopter or something traveling at

755
00:46:14.719 --> 00:46:17.679
that speed when it's completely silent in the middle of

756
00:46:17.760 --> 00:46:20.760
the night, and there was no noise, no anything. And

757
00:46:20.800 --> 00:46:23.599
I didn't really notice that. I just I kind of

758
00:46:23.719 --> 00:46:26.880
it's one of those things again where you know something's

759
00:46:26.920 --> 00:46:29.800
not right, like something was wrong there and I don't

760
00:46:29.800 --> 00:46:32.360
know what it is, but I'm trying to my logical

761
00:46:32.400 --> 00:46:34.719
side of my brain is trying to just sort it

762
00:46:34.760 --> 00:46:38.000
out and make sense of make it make sense even

763
00:46:38.000 --> 00:46:44.800
though it doesn't. And I just kind of dawned on me,

764
00:46:44.920 --> 00:46:48.079
like I didn't hear anything like that was silent, and

765
00:46:48.119 --> 00:46:50.880
I asked my mom. I said, did you hear anything?

766
00:46:50.960 --> 00:46:53.559
Did you hear like rotors or did you hear the engine?

767
00:46:54.280 --> 00:46:57.440
He goes no. I said, Wow, that's weird, isn't it?

768
00:46:58.039 --> 00:47:01.599
Like that's really weird. I just kind of sat there

769
00:47:01.639 --> 00:47:05.840
and thought about it. And it was maybe the next night.

770
00:47:05.920 --> 00:47:08.480
A couple of nights later, I had asked her about it,

771
00:47:08.480 --> 00:47:10.800
and I said, Hey, do you remember that helicopter? Whatever

772
00:47:10.840 --> 00:47:13.000
we saw last night was the you know, the spotlight?

773
00:47:13.920 --> 00:47:17.360
And she looked at me and said, uh no, and

774
00:47:17.679 --> 00:47:20.079
like she had no idea what I was talking about,

775
00:47:21.119 --> 00:47:27.360
which struck me as very very odd. I don't know,

776
00:47:27.559 --> 00:47:29.639
because she has a she's a pretty sureful lady. I

777
00:47:29.679 --> 00:47:32.719
would think she would remember something like that, especially it

778
00:47:33.039 --> 00:47:36.920
happened like the night or two nights before, and that

779
00:47:37.199 --> 00:47:44.039
was just always really weird. And then actually where that that,

780
00:47:44.840 --> 00:47:47.239
I don't know, we'll call it the helicopter light. I

781
00:47:47.280 --> 00:47:49.760
don't know what it was, but where the trajectory of

782
00:47:49.800 --> 00:47:53.199
that was going a mile to the south from my

783
00:47:53.280 --> 00:47:58.519
parents' house, right along that same state drain. It was

784
00:48:02.440 --> 00:48:05.840
this was probably two years ago. This happened in the summer.

785
00:48:07.559 --> 00:48:11.079
I was bored and I was just kind of traveling

786
00:48:11.079 --> 00:48:15.159
around back roads, you know, like my old stomping grounds

787
00:48:15.159 --> 00:48:18.000
as a kid. And I was smoking a cigarette, just

788
00:48:18.079 --> 00:48:20.119
you know, mind in my own business. It was probably

789
00:48:20.599 --> 00:48:26.159
eleven o'clock, eleven thirty at night, just definitely dark, and

790
00:48:27.960 --> 00:48:32.280
I was I was just driving maybe ten fifteen miles now,

791
00:48:32.320 --> 00:48:36.320
creeping down this back road, and I noticed this weird light,

792
00:48:37.039 --> 00:48:40.119
like just off in the field. And I thought like, oh,

793
00:48:40.159 --> 00:48:42.800
I wonder if somebody's hunting or something, and you know,

794
00:48:43.920 --> 00:48:46.280
that's kind of weird. And I just kept kept cruising.

795
00:48:46.719 --> 00:48:48.480
I looked at him. Yeah, I like, that's a really

796
00:48:48.519 --> 00:48:53.079
odd colored light. It had like a blue tent to it.

797
00:48:53.079 --> 00:48:56.400
It was. It was strange. I that's the first thing

798
00:48:56.440 --> 00:48:58.840
I noticed that. It made me kind of draw my

799
00:48:58.840 --> 00:49:01.920
attention to it. And the more I was paying attention

800
00:49:02.000 --> 00:49:05.079
to it, the weirder it got. It was it was

801
00:49:05.079 --> 00:49:09.800
only like what people call an orb like it was

802
00:49:09.840 --> 00:49:14.400
just like a glowing ball, but it wasn't casting any

803
00:49:14.480 --> 00:49:20.840
light off of it. And it was just maybe a

804
00:49:20.880 --> 00:49:23.400
foot and a half above like what the top of

805
00:49:23.400 --> 00:49:28.199
this beanfield was, so maybe it was three three and

806
00:49:28.199 --> 00:49:31.639
a half feet off the ground or so. And I

807
00:49:31.800 --> 00:49:37.440
stopped and it was only twenty five yards away maybe,

808
00:49:37.519 --> 00:49:39.719
I mean it was close. I could have hit it

809
00:49:39.719 --> 00:49:44.320
with a rock for sure. And for whatever reason, I

810
00:49:44.360 --> 00:49:47.519
just kept I even after I realized like, this isn't

811
00:49:47.599 --> 00:49:50.480
like a flashlight, this isn't normal, my brain was still

812
00:49:50.480 --> 00:49:52.840
trying to like I was just like, oh, that must

813
00:49:52.880 --> 00:49:55.559
be a hunter, because it almost looked like it was

814
00:49:56.800 --> 00:50:00.480
like just slowly, like in a wave pattern, like moving

815
00:50:00.599 --> 00:50:05.360
really slow, maybe a mile an hour across the field,

816
00:50:05.400 --> 00:50:08.280
and it was just going up and down, just super slow,

817
00:50:08.400 --> 00:50:10.840
like maybe a couple of inches up, a couple of

818
00:50:10.880 --> 00:50:13.440
inches down, a couple inches up, a couple inches down.

819
00:50:13.480 --> 00:50:15.840
And I thought like, oh, that must be a guy,

820
00:50:15.880 --> 00:50:18.719
you know, just walking with a flashlight. I'm not just

821
00:50:19.079 --> 00:50:22.039
gonna sit here and stare at him like some'm weirdo.

822
00:50:22.559 --> 00:50:25.199
And as I got down the road, I crossed this

823
00:50:25.400 --> 00:50:29.400
bridge maybe ten seconds after I took off, and I

824
00:50:29.400 --> 00:50:32.960
thought to myself, like, that wasn't a person, Like why

825
00:50:33.519 --> 00:50:37.800
that wasn't a person? Though? And it just really sat.

826
00:50:38.519 --> 00:50:42.039
I don't know, it didn't sit with me well, like

827
00:50:42.039 --> 00:50:45.440
like I don't know if that wasn't my thought like, oh,

828
00:50:45.480 --> 00:50:47.920
it's just a person, just leave, you know, like why

829
00:50:48.079 --> 00:50:51.159
don't steer at this person because I clearly knew it

830
00:50:51.280 --> 00:50:54.760
was not a person, Like all signs are pointing because

831
00:50:54.760 --> 00:50:57.920
this isn't normal. And still I just I don't know

832
00:50:57.960 --> 00:50:59.760
if it was my brain trying to rationalize and just

833
00:50:59.760 --> 00:51:03.599
get out of there or or what. But it was

834
00:51:03.760 --> 00:51:09.599
real odd. And then just you know you're one of

835
00:51:09.639 --> 00:51:12.280
the middle ghost type stuff like seeing things move, you know,

836
00:51:12.440 --> 00:51:16.039
like salt shakers getting tossed off of counters and you know,

837
00:51:16.119 --> 00:51:21.559
crossed rooms. And there was there was one really odd

838
00:51:21.760 --> 00:51:24.719
like skin crawling type creepy thing that happened to me

839
00:51:24.719 --> 00:51:29.280
when I was younger. I was fifteen, and I used

840
00:51:29.280 --> 00:51:34.880
to babysit for my aunt. She had two younger kids. Well,

841
00:51:35.559 --> 00:51:40.039
there was one night I put the kids to bed

842
00:51:40.280 --> 00:51:43.360
and I was I had folded laundry or doing whatever

843
00:51:43.400 --> 00:51:46.440
to keep busy, you know, earning my money whatever little

844
00:51:46.440 --> 00:51:48.800
she was paying me. And I had all these clothes

845
00:51:48.880 --> 00:51:52.920
hampers sitting on the floor and I decided to sleep

846
00:51:52.960 --> 00:51:57.320
on the couch. Well, she had gotten home. She was

847
00:51:57.320 --> 00:51:59.599
probably at the bar drinking whatever. She got home late.

848
00:51:59.639 --> 00:52:03.440
I didn't make up, and the next morning when I

849
00:52:04.079 --> 00:52:10.119
woke up, my whole body was covered in the clothes

850
00:52:10.159 --> 00:52:13.079
that I had just folded all over in these hampers,

851
00:52:13.119 --> 00:52:15.239
like two or three hampers, where the clothes and towels

852
00:52:15.239 --> 00:52:17.239
were just covering me. And when I say covering me,

853
00:52:18.079 --> 00:52:20.079
I don't mean like one layer. I mean there was.

854
00:52:20.719 --> 00:52:22.440
It was almost kind of hard for me as a

855
00:52:22.440 --> 00:52:25.920
fifteen year old to figure out what was going on

856
00:52:26.000 --> 00:52:29.519
and sit up and get all this material off of me.

857
00:52:31.320 --> 00:52:34.280
It was, I mean head to toe, covering my nose,

858
00:52:34.360 --> 00:52:37.400
my mouth, my face, everything. And then as soon as

859
00:52:37.400 --> 00:52:40.360
I got up, I was like, what was going on,

860
00:52:40.480 --> 00:52:43.440
you know, trying to make sense of this, and I

861
00:52:43.480 --> 00:52:46.079
so I kind of just brush everything off of me

862
00:52:46.159 --> 00:52:47.840
and put it back in the hampers, and I walked

863
00:52:47.880 --> 00:52:50.920
into the the kitchen to get something to drink, and

864
00:52:50.960 --> 00:52:54.079
I just kept getting weirder. There was all the silverware

865
00:52:54.119 --> 00:52:58.719
that was in the drawers was just on the counters,

866
00:52:59.239 --> 00:53:02.039
and I started saying, and like how drunk did my

867
00:53:02.079 --> 00:53:04.679
aunt get? You know, like why would somebody do this?

868
00:53:05.760 --> 00:53:09.119
And I just put all the silver back in the

869
00:53:09.440 --> 00:53:14.039
counters or in the drawers, and and I went to

870
00:53:14.079 --> 00:53:16.360
go to the bathroom, and then the bathroom was locked

871
00:53:16.400 --> 00:53:23.000
from the inside. So I was just like, this is weird,

872
00:53:23.360 --> 00:53:25.800
what is going on? So I woke my aunt up

873
00:53:26.719 --> 00:53:30.239
and she was completely coherent, didn't seem like she was,

874
00:53:30.639 --> 00:53:32.480
you know, even like drunk from the night before or

875
00:53:32.480 --> 00:53:38.039
anything like, she wasn't bombed. And I'm like, hey, can

876
00:53:38.079 --> 00:53:41.440
you unlock the bathroom door? Like it's locked from the inside.

877
00:53:41.480 --> 00:53:44.320
And I was covered and all these towels, like what

878
00:53:44.360 --> 00:53:46.360
did you do last night? And she said nothing. I

879
00:53:46.400 --> 00:53:50.639
got home and I went to bed, and I was like,

880
00:53:51.000 --> 00:53:53.679
all the silverware it was out of all the drawers.

881
00:53:53.719 --> 00:53:55.760
The drawers were open, all the silverware is up on

882
00:53:55.880 --> 00:53:59.199
the counter like like, and the bathroom doors locked from

883
00:53:59.239 --> 00:54:02.880
the inside. So she unlocks the bathroom door, and the

884
00:54:02.960 --> 00:54:06.119
whole inside of the bathroom like she had shelving that

885
00:54:06.199 --> 00:54:09.519
went from like almost the floor to the ceiling, these

886
00:54:09.559 --> 00:54:13.400
big shelves, and they were all like pulled out almost

887
00:54:13.400 --> 00:54:14.880
to the point where they were going to fall out,

888
00:54:14.920 --> 00:54:17.880
and like most of the contents were just scattered throughout.

889
00:54:17.599 --> 00:54:19.599
The whole bathroom.

890
00:54:21.199 --> 00:54:25.559
So I don't know, that was just super weird. And

891
00:54:25.599 --> 00:54:28.119
I thought to myself, you know, like, man, that had

892
00:54:28.119 --> 00:54:29.840
to be my aunt, you know, like she I don't

893
00:54:29.840 --> 00:54:31.639
know if she's playing some kind of crazy trick, Like

894
00:54:31.639 --> 00:54:33.119
I don't know why she'd do this to her house.

895
00:54:33.480 --> 00:54:35.440
I'm just trying to rationalize it, you know, as a kid.

896
00:54:36.360 --> 00:54:39.079
And there was an experience that happened later in the

897
00:54:39.119 --> 00:54:41.760
house that led me to believe that maybe that really

898
00:54:41.920 --> 00:54:45.519
was something supernatural or pair normal, whatever you want to

899
00:54:45.519 --> 00:54:51.360
call it. I was sitting in the same house. I

900
00:54:51.400 --> 00:54:53.880
was sitting at her dining room table, and we had

901
00:54:53.920 --> 00:54:55.920
just made lunch for kids, and she had just got

902
00:54:55.960 --> 00:55:00.039
back from work, so that was babysitting them again. And

903
00:55:00.519 --> 00:55:05.280
I'm sitting looking towards the wall that would and on

904
00:55:05.320 --> 00:55:07.440
the opposite side of this wall would be the living room.

905
00:55:07.559 --> 00:55:10.079
And to my left as my aunt, and in front

906
00:55:10.079 --> 00:55:12.599
of me as her son, and to the right of

907
00:55:12.599 --> 00:55:16.320
me was my younger cousin, Beckham, and she was I

908
00:55:16.320 --> 00:55:19.320
want to say four years old at the time, somewhere

909
00:55:19.320 --> 00:55:22.519
around there, maybe five. She wasn't in school yet, but

910
00:55:23.840 --> 00:55:25.840
she kept she was the only one that could see

911
00:55:25.840 --> 00:55:27.760
into this living room because there was a partition wall

912
00:55:27.800 --> 00:55:32.800
there and a big archway opening, and she wasn't eating,

913
00:55:32.800 --> 00:55:35.199
and she kept like staring off the living room, just

914
00:55:35.239 --> 00:55:38.320
like she was really focused on something. And I was

915
00:55:38.360 --> 00:55:40.679
looking at her and I said, hey, you know, eat

916
00:55:40.719 --> 00:55:43.920
your hot dogs or macaroni and cheese or whatever she

917
00:55:44.039 --> 00:55:45.559
was eating at I, come on, eat some of that.

918
00:55:46.679 --> 00:55:48.719
And she just kind of looked at me like nah,

919
00:55:48.760 --> 00:55:50.280
and she played around with her food, and then she

920
00:55:50.400 --> 00:55:52.719
looked straight over there like I couldn't get her attention

921
00:55:52.760 --> 00:55:56.559
away from the living room. So I was like, what

922
00:55:56.599 --> 00:56:01.079
are you looking at? You know's what's so important in there?

923
00:56:01.480 --> 00:56:04.280
And she goes, I'm just looking at that man. And

924
00:56:04.320 --> 00:56:07.639
I said what and he goes, yeah, I'm just looking

925
00:56:07.639 --> 00:56:10.280
at the man. And I'm kind of like laughing, you know,

926
00:56:10.360 --> 00:56:12.519
like okay, I'll play a lot with her. I said

927
00:56:12.559 --> 00:56:15.360
what man? And she goes, Oh, is a man right there?

928
00:56:15.719 --> 00:56:18.239
And I said, oh, what does he look like? And

929
00:56:18.280 --> 00:56:22.239
she goes, he's wearing a suit and he's got a hat,

930
00:56:22.719 --> 00:56:26.320
and he's he's got a briefcase or he's got a

931
00:56:26.400 --> 00:56:28.400
case or however she explained it, you know, in her

932
00:56:28.400 --> 00:56:32.280
five year old terms, And and I started kind of

933
00:56:32.280 --> 00:56:34.559
getting weird, like that's a you know, I have an

934
00:56:34.559 --> 00:56:36.840
accurate description, you know, because there was a little more

935
00:56:36.880 --> 00:56:38.920
detail in him, like a tie or whatever. Because I

936
00:56:38.920 --> 00:56:41.119
was asking her like more about what he looked like,

937
00:56:41.880 --> 00:56:44.079
and she just kept like she was looking right at

938
00:56:44.119 --> 00:56:48.039
somebody and explained it like describing them. And I said, oh, well,

939
00:56:48.079 --> 00:56:50.159
I said, was he outside the window? And I went

940
00:56:50.239 --> 00:56:53.000
to go gain up and look, and she goes, no,

941
00:56:53.199 --> 00:56:55.880
he's in the chair, like in the living room, in

942
00:56:55.920 --> 00:57:01.039
the chair. And as she says this, as I'm getting up,

943
00:57:01.039 --> 00:57:03.159
and I get up and I look over there and

944
00:57:03.239 --> 00:57:06.800
there's nobody there, like, not one, not a soul, I

945
00:57:06.800 --> 00:57:10.679
sat back down. I said, well, I don't see anybody, know,

946
00:57:10.800 --> 00:57:13.960
he's not there anymore. And she looks and she goes, no,

947
00:57:14.159 --> 00:57:17.840
he's not there anymore, like just I mean, deadpan, like

948
00:57:18.280 --> 00:57:23.239
super serious. And it was just like made my skin chronolic. Oh,

949
00:57:23.360 --> 00:57:26.079
I don't know what you were seeing, but it seems

950
00:57:26.119 --> 00:57:29.280
like you were looking at something. And I just gave

951
00:57:29.280 --> 00:57:33.199
a whole lot more validity to whatever happened the experienced

952
00:57:33.239 --> 00:57:35.559
before with all the laundry and the whole house being

953
00:57:35.559 --> 00:57:39.440
basically turned upside down and nobody waking up, which I'm

954
00:57:39.840 --> 00:57:43.599
not a super heavy sleeper, but if you'd stacked things

955
00:57:43.760 --> 00:57:46.480
across my face, I'm almost guaranteed to wake up. And

956
00:57:46.519 --> 00:57:50.679
I don't know how I slept through all that, but

957
00:57:50.920 --> 00:57:54.320
that's pretty much thumbs up most of the odd things

958
00:57:54.320 --> 00:57:57.960
that have happened in my life. And I don't think

959
00:57:58.000 --> 00:58:02.079
I need to keep rambling, and you're off anymore. You know.

960
00:58:02.320 --> 00:58:06.360
The interesting thing about all that is that some of

961
00:58:06.400 --> 00:58:10.360
it was happening before your big foot encounters, which is

962
00:58:11.199 --> 00:58:12.440
extremely interesting.

963
00:58:16.000 --> 00:58:18.159
Oh and as you're saying that a black can't just

964
00:58:18.239 --> 00:58:20.440
walked across the front of them with Walmart.

965
00:58:20.199 --> 00:58:22.800
Parking lot, there you go.

966
00:58:23.119 --> 00:58:27.079
Oh, I'm sorry. Just one more thing. I don't know

967
00:58:27.079 --> 00:58:29.760
if this has ever happened to anyone else, but it

968
00:58:29.880 --> 00:58:31.960
was the whole I don't know if it's paranormal, what

969
00:58:32.000 --> 00:58:34.280
it is. I'll try to be quick because I'm probably

970
00:58:34.320 --> 00:58:39.239
getting long winded here. When I was five years old,

971
00:58:40.280 --> 00:58:42.119
I know the exact night that it happened because there

972
00:58:42.159 --> 00:58:44.159
was a picture that my parents for my mom had

973
00:58:44.159 --> 00:58:47.719
taken and my cousin Mike had been spending the night

974
00:58:47.760 --> 00:58:51.480
with us at our trailer in a little town called Carol, Michigan.

975
00:58:52.360 --> 00:58:54.960
My parents had a they bought like an acre of property,

976
00:58:54.960 --> 00:58:56.960
and they bought a trailer, and you know that that

977
00:58:57.079 --> 00:59:00.239
was their startup home or one of their first startup home.

978
00:59:00.480 --> 00:59:05.159
And I my bedroom was like in a built on

979
00:59:05.320 --> 00:59:10.320
addition from the the main double wide, so I had

980
00:59:10.360 --> 00:59:14.840
an exterior door and like a little like metal porch

981
00:59:14.880 --> 00:59:17.960
and steps that led off of it, and it had

982
00:59:18.239 --> 00:59:21.559
maybe a window that was I don't know, a foot

983
00:59:21.599 --> 00:59:24.280
and a half tall by a foot and a half

984
00:59:24.280 --> 00:59:27.480
wide or so, might have been two by two. Well, anyway,

985
00:59:29.719 --> 00:59:32.519
we were having to sleep over, and my bed faced

986
00:59:32.519 --> 00:59:38.239
exactly towards that door, in that window, and that night

987
00:59:38.880 --> 00:59:44.880
I had I had woke up something just like like

988
00:59:44.960 --> 00:59:48.079
told me to like wake up, and I woke up

989
00:59:48.320 --> 00:59:51.280
wide away, looking right at the window of that door,

990
00:59:52.119 --> 00:59:55.639
and there was two kids in the window. It's the

991
00:59:55.639 --> 00:59:57.159
only way I can describe it. And I thought this

992
00:59:57.280 --> 01:00:01.519
was a dream. For twenty some years, I just thought

993
01:00:01.519 --> 01:00:03.119
it was a really bizarre dream. So they used to

994
01:00:03.159 --> 01:00:06.239
have night peers like all the time, especially in that house.

995
01:00:06.599 --> 01:00:11.639
I don't know what it was, but anyway, I wake

996
01:00:11.719 --> 01:00:14.239
up and I see these two kids' faces. One was

997
01:00:14.280 --> 01:00:17.719
taller and one was a little shorter. It looked like

998
01:00:17.840 --> 01:00:21.920
they were maybe twelve and ten or you know, thirteen

999
01:00:21.960 --> 01:00:24.400
to nine, the younger one and the older one. And

1000
01:00:26.760 --> 01:00:29.960
I remember them like just looking in at us, and

1001
01:00:30.000 --> 01:00:32.239
then all of a sudden they'd disappear for a second,

1002
01:00:32.280 --> 01:00:34.079
like run down the steps or whatever, and then all

1003
01:00:34.079 --> 01:00:37.239
of a sudden they'd peer in again. And at one point,

1004
01:00:37.440 --> 01:00:41.320
one of them was holding up when I think was

1005
01:00:41.320 --> 01:00:44.519
a newspaper article or some kind of piece of paper,

1006
01:00:44.760 --> 01:00:48.519
you know, like with an article on it, and they

1007
01:00:48.519 --> 01:00:50.920
were pointing at it, like they were pointing at a

1008
01:00:50.960 --> 01:00:55.239
specific piece of it. And I remember just being petrified,

1009
01:00:55.280 --> 01:00:56.960
you know, because I'm a five year old. I don't

1010
01:00:56.960 --> 01:00:58.840
know what to make of this, and I just closed

1011
01:00:58.840 --> 01:01:01.280
my eyes, and then before I knew it, woke up

1012
01:01:01.280 --> 01:01:03.320
in the morning. I, you know, just must have fallen asleep.

1013
01:01:04.079 --> 01:01:07.800
Well twenty some years later, this was this was probably

1014
01:01:07.800 --> 01:01:09.880
six years ago. It was in the last six years

1015
01:01:10.199 --> 01:01:14.960
that that I figured out this was actually happened, because

1016
01:01:15.360 --> 01:01:17.039
I had told you my mom had taken a picture

1017
01:01:17.039 --> 01:01:22.039
of us that night. And and what makes me remember

1018
01:01:22.079 --> 01:01:25.360
that night is because I peed the bed, which is

1019
01:01:25.440 --> 01:01:27.639
not a cool thing to admit to thousands of people.

1020
01:01:27.639 --> 01:01:29.960
On the internet. But that's how I remember, and I

1021
01:01:30.039 --> 01:01:32.639
remember being so ashamed, you know, thinking, Oh, my cousin's

1022
01:01:32.679 --> 01:01:34.360
gonna think I'm such a you know, a little baby.

1023
01:01:34.400 --> 01:01:38.239
I peed the bed. That's that. Every time I see

1024
01:01:38.280 --> 01:01:41.039
that image, I think of me wedding the bed and

1025
01:01:41.079 --> 01:01:46.159
that night and those kids or that dream. And it was,

1026
01:01:46.519 --> 01:01:48.400
like I said, five years ago. I asked my cousin

1027
01:01:48.440 --> 01:01:50.880
because that picture was hanging in our house and he

1028
01:01:50.960 --> 01:01:54.400
happened to be visiting. It was some kind of family gathering,

1029
01:01:54.400 --> 01:01:57.079
and I said, hey, do you remember the night that

1030
01:01:57.119 --> 01:01:59.440
picture was taken? And he kind of gave me a

1031
01:01:59.480 --> 01:02:03.079
weird looking like, yeah, I remember why. I said, do

1032
01:02:03.159 --> 01:02:05.480
you remember anything weird that night? Like I just wanted

1033
01:02:05.519 --> 01:02:08.079
to ask him without planting any seeds or anything, you know,

1034
01:02:08.159 --> 01:02:11.480
and I just wanted to know if he saw anything weird.

1035
01:02:11.480 --> 01:02:13.679
And I said, you know, I asked him that question.

1036
01:02:13.800 --> 01:02:20.719
He says, yeah. I said, what do you remember do

1037
01:02:20.760 --> 01:02:26.199
you remember anything involving like, you know, anything was that

1038
01:02:26.280 --> 01:02:29.480
door that used to lead outside of my room or outside?

1039
01:02:29.480 --> 01:02:31.960
And he goes, yeah. I said, what did you see?

1040
01:02:33.119 --> 01:02:37.360
He goes, I saw a couple of kids. And I

1041
01:02:37.599 --> 01:02:40.840
just both of us like our hearts sank, like wow,

1042
01:02:40.920 --> 01:02:43.199
that was real, because I think he was thinking the

1043
01:02:43.239 --> 01:02:44.760
same thing, like that had to have been a dream

1044
01:02:44.840 --> 01:02:47.440
or a nightmare or something like, you know, like just

1045
01:02:47.480 --> 01:02:52.440
forget about it. But he remembered exactly the same thing

1046
01:02:52.480 --> 01:02:55.599
I remembered. I said, do you were they was it

1047
01:02:55.679 --> 01:02:57.519
just the kids or was there anything else? Were they

1048
01:02:57.559 --> 01:03:01.119
holding anything? You know? And he's said, yeah, they're holding

1049
01:03:01.239 --> 01:03:04.119
a piece of paper or like a newspaper. And I

1050
01:03:04.199 --> 01:03:06.800
was like, son of a you know, son of a gun. Uh,

1051
01:03:08.079 --> 01:03:11.800
just you know the things that you just you're right

1052
01:03:11.880 --> 01:03:15.119
off as, oh I must be crazy or that never

1053
01:03:15.199 --> 01:03:19.519
happened there. It's it's a it's amazing when you actually

1054
01:03:19.920 --> 01:03:22.840
have confirmation of like, no, that really legitimately did happen,

1055
01:03:22.880 --> 01:03:25.719
and there's another person that I can corroborate it, because

1056
01:03:25.840 --> 01:03:27.840
all the other odd things that have ever happened in

1057
01:03:27.840 --> 01:03:31.760
my whole life have all just it's just been me.

1058
01:03:32.039 --> 01:03:35.360
Nobody else to share the experience, nobody else to you know, Hey,

1059
01:03:35.400 --> 01:03:37.119
did you see the same thing I said seen? Or

1060
01:03:37.119 --> 01:03:39.360
did you hear what I heard? And the only time

1061
01:03:39.400 --> 01:03:42.079
there there was another person or a couple of people there,

1062
01:03:42.079 --> 01:03:45.119
like they were the dead of the world didn't even

1063
01:03:45.119 --> 01:03:48.840
wake up for the experience of the sound, and that

1064
01:03:48.840 --> 01:03:51.960
that really has always bothered me, like for the longest time, like, man,

1065
01:03:52.000 --> 01:03:55.039
why can't this happen with somebody else to see it

1066
01:03:55.199 --> 01:03:57.039
or to you know, at least let me know that

1067
01:03:57.079 --> 01:04:03.800
I'm not crazy. But that's that's literally all all of it.

1068
01:04:06.039 --> 01:04:09.119
I'm sorry for being so long winded, and if I'm

1069
01:04:09.159 --> 01:04:12.679
stumbling through my words, I really I'm sorry.

1070
01:04:13.199 --> 01:04:17.960
I think you did a fantastic job. It's always very

1071
01:04:18.000 --> 01:04:23.599
special when someone can collaborate something you saw without you

1072
01:04:24.960 --> 01:04:28.679
even saying what it was, which is very cool. But

1073
01:04:29.239 --> 01:04:33.800
you know, you have had some really really interesting experiences

1074
01:04:33.960 --> 01:04:39.440
around Michigan, and I just want to thank you for

1075
01:04:39.440 --> 01:04:44.559
for coming on this the show, Gyles. But you know,

1076
01:04:45.519 --> 01:04:50.039
going real quick before before we end, you know, you

1077
01:04:50.119 --> 01:04:55.599
did have that that visual of something for a few

1078
01:04:55.679 --> 01:05:01.199
seconds from Based on what you saw, was it something

1079
01:05:01.199 --> 01:05:06.639
that seemed more more ape like or more human like

1080
01:05:06.760 --> 01:05:09.800
or was it something that was maybe completely different?

1081
01:05:13.960 --> 01:05:17.760
Well before I answer, keep in mind, I didn't see

1082
01:05:17.800 --> 01:05:23.480
any details like facial features, any any skin tone, any

1083
01:05:23.960 --> 01:05:30.639
any anything. Sure, but with that in mind, that looked

1084
01:05:30.639 --> 01:05:35.519
one hundred percent like a human like just a freakishly

1085
01:05:36.079 --> 01:05:41.000
big human And it took me a little while to

1086
01:05:41.039 --> 01:05:43.920
convince myself like that was not a person, Like there

1087
01:05:44.039 --> 01:05:49.280
is absolutely no way and that's with the with without

1088
01:05:49.400 --> 01:05:51.840
the thought of them disappearing, like it was such a

1089
01:05:52.840 --> 01:05:58.639
just girthy, big person. That's the only way I can

1090
01:05:58.639 --> 01:06:02.519
describe as like a corn fred country boy, like if

1091
01:06:02.559 --> 01:06:08.239
Andrea the Giant was like and physically like physically more fit,

1092
01:06:08.599 --> 01:06:11.880
like he was more toned out, you know, like like

1093
01:06:11.960 --> 01:06:16.000
actually cared about his health and just bigger, Like this

1094
01:06:16.039 --> 01:06:22.159
thing was so big, but definitely I would say much

1095
01:06:22.199 --> 01:06:26.800
more man like appearance than anything. There was not really

1096
01:06:26.920 --> 01:06:30.280
much gorilla about it then, Like the way that it's

1097
01:06:30.639 --> 01:06:35.119
head and neck was, it just looked like it had

1098
01:06:35.199 --> 01:06:36.760
no necks, like it was just wearing a hood, but

1099
01:06:37.760 --> 01:06:39.800
it clearly wasn't wearing any clothes.

1100
01:06:42.639 --> 01:06:45.880
Wild wild stuff something, you know, one thing's for sure,

1101
01:06:45.960 --> 01:06:49.519
there's some weird stuff going on in Michigan. I just

1102
01:06:49.559 --> 01:06:53.199
want to say thank you for coming on the show, Giles,

1103
01:06:52.960 --> 01:06:56.119
to share what you've experienced over the years, and you know,

1104
01:06:56.239 --> 01:06:59.679
definitely keep us in mind if you do experience anything

1105
01:06:59.719 --> 01:07:02.960
else weird in the future. We'd love to hear from you.

1106
01:07:04.559 --> 01:07:09.119
Oh yeah, yeah, I really appreciate having the opportunity to

1107
01:07:09.159 --> 01:07:13.239
just get this off my chest and let people know.

1108
01:07:13.960 --> 01:07:16.679
So I think Michigan's kind of a state where I

1109
01:07:16.679 --> 01:07:20.519
don't know if we're behind the curve and technology and

1110
01:07:20.519 --> 01:07:25.760
people getting on board with with the different YouTube channels

1111
01:07:25.760 --> 01:07:29.480
and Facebook pages and getting involved in online communities with this,

1112
01:07:29.679 --> 01:07:33.559
but it seems like it's really picking up a lot

1113
01:07:33.559 --> 01:07:36.559
of steam and people are more willing than ever to

1114
01:07:37.679 --> 01:07:40.760
be open with you and and and give you their

1115
01:07:41.480 --> 01:07:45.440
real experiences and not just sit there in silence and

1116
01:07:45.480 --> 01:07:47.599
feel like they're going to be judged. So the more

1117
01:07:47.639 --> 01:07:52.840
people that come forward with honest, you know, truth, the

1118
01:07:53.000 --> 01:07:55.440
more normal it's going to be for everybody, and easier

1119
01:07:55.440 --> 01:07:59.440
it'll be for for anybody that wants to just you know,

1120
01:08:00.000 --> 01:08:03.440
breast themselves and what's happened to them. Appreciate what you're doing.

1121
01:08:03.599 --> 01:08:06.400
You and everybody every other channel that's like this.

1122
01:08:07.719 --> 01:08:11.320
Well, thank you Gyles, and again feel free to reach

1123
01:08:11.360 --> 01:08:14.960
out if you ever need to share anything else. But

1124
01:08:15.199 --> 01:08:16.680
thanks for coming on the show tonight.

1125
01:08:18.199 --> 01:08:20.399
Oh yeah, I the pleasures but all mine, Thank you

1126
01:08:20.479 --> 01:08:20.880
very much.

1127
01:08:21.840 --> 01:08:23.640
Just wanted to take a few minutes to say thank

1128
01:08:23.680 --> 01:08:27.319
you to you all my listeners for listening to the podcast.

1129
01:08:28.199 --> 01:08:30.960
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1130
01:08:31.119 --> 01:08:34.600
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01:08:41.239 --> 01:08:44.439
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01:08:48.760 --> 01:08:51.960
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1136
01:08:51.960 --> 01:08:54.840
had a Bigfoot encounter related to the following or know

1137
01:08:55.000 --> 01:08:59.079
someone who has, please reach out to me at Bigfoot

1138
01:08:59.119 --> 01:09:02.560
Society at gmail dot com or pass on my email.

1139
01:09:03.359 --> 01:09:08.199
Here's a list the Subtle Lake area of Oregon, Rainbow, Oregon,

1140
01:09:08.560 --> 01:09:13.880
McKinsey Bridge area, Sweet Home, pretty much that entire area,

1141
01:09:14.439 --> 01:09:17.720
the north part. If you get what I mean. I'll

1142
01:09:17.720 --> 01:09:21.199
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1143
01:09:21.600 --> 01:09:24.439
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1144
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1145
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a two day ticket for the cost of one if

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you use the code b FS like Bigfoot Society, but

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BFS and I'll get used some off your cost. Priscilla

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was nice enough to provide that for my listeners, So

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there you go. I look forward to seeing you there,

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so make sure you head over to www Dot Sasquatch

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Summerfest dot com and pick up your tickets today