June 8, 2025

It Mimicked Me to my Face! | Washington

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Season 1

Rob joins host Jeremiah Byron with the Bigfoot Society to recount several chilling encounters with Bigfoot in the Pacific Northwest. From his early experiences at Mount St. Helens in the late '60s and '70s to a spine-tingling nighttime encounter by his cabin in Issaquah, Washington, Rob's stories are filled with vivid details. His tales continue to unfold with encounters in the Cascades, Oregon, and even a telepathic interaction on a trail near the Oregon coast. This episode dives deep into the eerie and mysterious world of Bigfoot encounters, showcasing the fear, astonishment, and wonder experienced by those who've come face-to-face with these elusive creatures.

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slash the big for Society and now let's get on

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with the show. All right, Bigfoot Society. You've got the

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privilege of talking to Rob today. Rob's an individual that

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reached out to me wanting to share a few interesting

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things that have happened over the years. Welcome to the show.

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Rob. How's it going, Oh, pretty good, Jarmaiah, how are

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you doing?

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You know, having a good day. It's kind of hanging

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out and getting over head cold and you know, maybe

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some electrical interference on this, but it'll be fine. But

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I'm just excited to talk to you today. We're having

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a little chat before this started, and it sounds like

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you've really had some interesting things happen over the years.

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So you know, I'm just glad that you're able to

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choose to chose to share those with us today. So

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you know, Rob, but feel free, let's start this. It

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sounds like we have to go pretty far back to

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get going with your story. Your story starts, you know,

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as you're pretty young, you started experiencing stuff right off

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the bat.

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Sounds like, oh yeah, yeah. When I was it was

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probably the late sixties going into the early seventies, my

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dad would take us to Mount Saint Allan's on it

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purely camp and fishing trip, and we we'd go to

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one this one spot all the time that was called

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Eagle Cliff. And I'm sure if anybody's familiar with not

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Saint Helen's that area, they probably know. I could tell

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you where that's at because it's by eight Canyon eight Caves.

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So we'd fish right there in the reservoir right there,

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and camp right there at the at the cliff. Back then,

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the campgrounds was right there at the base of the cliff.

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I think they since moved it, but we we experienced

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some stuff. Right there. There's a bridge that goes across

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the whoever right there, and everybody fish first still had

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and when the bridge would get full, people would go

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over to bought the base of that cliff, and there

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was I just remember, because I was really young, I

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was with my dad, and I was always with my

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dad fishing, of course, and at that young age, I

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was probably about six during that time, six seven, eight

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years old maybe up till I was possibly nine or

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ten at the oldest. But we went over to the

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base of the cliff one time because the bridge got

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full of fishermen and we went over there. But I

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remember my dad mentioning something too a friend of his

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that we would go with once in a while, or

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he'd come with us once in a while, and they

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were talking about not being able to fish on the

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other side by the cliff, and maybe an intuitive little kid,

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you know, asking well why right, his friend says, well,

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harry Man, the hairy man of the woods doesn't want

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us over there. I said who, And my dad kind

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of interrupted and said, hey, don't scare him. Yeah, it's

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just the park ranger doesn't want us to go over

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there and finish so I want to do it. And

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I said, okay, all right, whatever. And but that time

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we went over there and my dad's friend was already

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over there and he was yelling at us, saying and saying, hey.

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We kept going and we started seeing rocks coming down

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into the water and he yells over at us and says,

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stop right there. They're throwing rocks off the cliff right now.

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And there was boulders landing right in the middle of

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the water by the time we turned around and went back.

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But that was my earliest experience, and so you know,

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time went on, but I mean that was that was

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evident that they were there was some sasquatch up there

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throwing the rocks, big boulders, I mean, just launching them

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off the cliff right into the water. It wasn't a

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landslide or anything like that. They were thrown out there

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into the water. And so the one that at that

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incident right there, he says, his buddy turns around, he

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yells up at the cliff, going, hey, stop throwing them rocks.

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And they took off the tore up that hill. He

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went up under the cliff and came back. He said,

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there was nobody there there's nobody up there throwing rocks,

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So those things got out of there. But that whole

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area right up and there is pretty wild. We'd go

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up to Ape Canyon and was right up around the

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bend right there, probably about ten miles and that's where

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that whole incident with the miners back in the twenties

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where they were attacked by the Sasquatch up there on

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the mountain.

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That was the first memory you have of experiencing weird

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stuff then as a as a kid.

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Okay, yeah, that was that was It went back that far.

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But I mean there was a couple other times. So

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after that, you know, life goes on another ten years,

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goes by ten years. We're a little older. It doesn't

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seem like it's much, but when you're a kid, it's

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a long time, you know. So where it's like ten

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years later, parents divorced. I went and lived with my

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dad up in Cascades, up in Washington, and that's where

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I was born. I was born in Seattle, and so

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he had a little and that's where we lived. And

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we lived in Seattle, but we actually moved away from there.

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I went down to the Vandend, came back and lived

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with my dad in Izaquah, and we had a that's

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where everything really happened, and really things started turning up.

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The heat started turning up on the Sasquatch and we

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used it like a few I'd invite some people out

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for the weekend from my buddies from Seattle and stuff,

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and we yeah, well I was so, I was like sixteen, seventeen,

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eighteen years old. We'd get somebody to buy us beer

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or something. We got to the cabinet and party a

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little bit, you know, and then it was one incident

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was just a buddy of mine, just a friend of

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mine from Seattle, came for the weekend. And my dad's

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a long haul truck driver, so he's never home. Eventually,

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my sister moved there and lived there with us there

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at the cabin two. But this one time, my buddy

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and I we're drinking a little debt and filling feel

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a little like we want to go do something. And

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my dad's truck was sitting there dodge powerway and I

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was sitting there in the driveway and he goes, well,

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let's take the truck out, go go you know, poor

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wheeling or something, you know, And I'm like going there's

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just logging roads and stuff up there in the cascade,

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so it's pretty cool area and you can go out

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and do that. So I grabbed my dad's keys and

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and he wasn't do to be back for a couple

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of days, so you never know. So we grabbed his

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truck and tore off up this other mountain down the

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road about ten miles and we were gone this whole

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logging road. It was old switch back logging road. We're

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cruising along, and it was that night, and it's probably

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about ten eleven o'clock at night when we first went out.

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By the time we got out in that area, it

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was it was like midnight and my buddy's driving. I'm

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in the passenger seat, and he turned this corner too

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sharp and the wheels kind of caught the edge of

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the road, and I was like, we're gonna go over

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the edge, you know, and he's like, no, I got it.

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I got he punches of gas and all it did

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was make the truck go roll right over the edge.

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And it being a logging area, it was all clear

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cut and so there was really nothing to stop us

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from rolling down the side of the mountain right there,

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and we got all the way down down this little ravine,

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and the truck finally stopped. We had to get out,

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but the doors were like, oh, smashed in it could

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even get out, couldn't even crawl out a window or anything.

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But we finally got out, smashed the back window out

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and crawled out and hiked back up to the road.

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And so by this time it's maybe I don't know,

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it's like midnight, one o'clock. I couldn't see anything. It's

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pretty dark, you know, Ventually your eyes kind of adjusted

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to the darkness and you can start making stuff out.

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And you're walking down the road. Jim says, hey, there's

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something walking next to me on the side on this

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side of me here. I'm like, no, there isn't and

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he goes, no, look stop, we stopped. There's nothing going well,

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you can't hear anything over there. But we start walking.

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Then he goes, no, listen, there's something wat next to

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pacing us on his side of the road. There's just

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every step it's matching every step we stop, it stop,

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we walk, we walk, and we stopped it. You could

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hear it because it was in the bushes and it'd

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take a couple more steps when you stop, you're right,

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there is something over there. And then eventually I'd hear

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something over on my side of the road and I

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was like, yeah, hey, there is something. There's something over

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here now. But what it was doing was it would

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walk on his side of the road and then cruise

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down the road a little bit and then cross the

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road and then wait for us to walk and they'd

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be walking on my side, and then it would go

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over to his side after a while, so it was

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circling us, and every once in a while we'd kind

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of see a flash going across the road and you

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were like, yeah, you're right, there is something there. That

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was kind of creepy, you know. We're like, we're trying

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to figure out what the heck it is. And another

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one shows up, and now they're pacing us, both of

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us on both sides of the road. And it took

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a couple hours come down that mountain because we had

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already gone up one side and we're actually going down

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the other side. Then we were wrecked, really erected there,

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so we had to walk the rest of the way,

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and those things paced us all the way down the mountain,

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and it took probably a couple of hours with those

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things next to us, just creeping us out. Co is

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scary and you never knew if you were going to

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get ambushed or or what. Neither one of us had

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a weapon. Well, we had a big lighters flicking our

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bick every once in a while to see the road.

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Oh wow, we got down and got out of there.

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That's I mean, that was so that was the next

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time something happened, And that was and that was freaky.

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That was just terrifying.

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Was this around a certain area you remember that you

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went up in, like let's see, there's like Cougar Mountain

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or just this was on a random for service road somewhere.

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Okay, so you're looking at the map because you right, yeah,

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all right, yeah yeah it was Tiger.

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Okay, it's a Tiger Mountain area.

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Yeah yeah, yeah, it's Tiger right there. I lived on

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Squawk Okay, can you see? Yeah?

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I can. That must have been absolutely I'm just trying

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to like picture what you guys are going through. So

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not only are you freaking out because you just trashed

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the truck, now you've got something pacing you out of

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out of this area, and all you have these bick

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lighters and nothing else. Holy macro.

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Yeah, yeah, you can imagine it. I mean it doesn't

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sound much like much when you talk about it, but

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to be there in that moment, it's like, am I

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going to make it? Am I going to make it

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down this mountain?

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And then it's I'm I'm guessing. Like so when you

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get back and then your dad shows up, I mean

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you got to tell him about the truck.

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Yeah, it was pissed.

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Oh my goodness, did the big foot things come up

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at all?

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No? No, no, he was pissed off. Factually went to

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a bar for a week and then it came back

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to at least on the road. It was pretty pissed off,

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not happy. Well, we did get a tow truck during

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this little time, went back up there, and even the

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tow truck driver was like, oh my shit. Since he

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didn't worth it because he finally got the try, it

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took a while for him to get it up out

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of that anywhere it was that where it was that

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and it was total, it was a total.

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Oh my goodness. You mentioned that you saw like a

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flash would like cross So was that like was it

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like a little light or or what was that about?

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Oh? No, I think it was just moving so fast. Okay,

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these things move. These things move like you can't believe.

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You've probably never seen anything move as fast as these

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things move. It was like a flash. It's like you see.

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It's like if you ever like just take your hand

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and wave it in front of your face really fast.

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That's what you see.

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Big for society will be right back after these messages.

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That's it.

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Okay, gotcha.

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It was across the road that fast. It's just a flash,

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like a shadow figure flashering for you.

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How did that affect your buddy? Did you guys talk

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about it or was it a thing where you just

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didn't even mention it afterwards?

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Afterwards? So we never talked about it. Yeah, that's a

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funny thing with this subject. People don't talk about it

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after after they say something like that unless you're around

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with people you know, that have the same mind interests

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and stuff. You know, I guess if you're looking for it.

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That was in nineteen eighty okayh you know, people didn't

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talk about that stuff back then, not like we do now.

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That's why I've never talked about this. This happened like

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forty something years ago.

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It's incredible.

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I never never talked about it because I was If

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I did mention it, I get funny looks and ridiculed.

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And I didn't even tell my brother for forty years

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what happened to me up there in that area, because

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it was it was something that you just don't share.

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He didn't share that stuff with people. Now because I mean,

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it seems like in the last I don't know, ten

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fifteen years, this thing is kind of taking light again,

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probably like it was when my dad was young. It's

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like when the miners and stuff up on out Saint

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Helen's that happened. Well, my dad was born in the thirties,

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so that happened like in the twenties, but he always went.

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He always went up there fishing and camping in hut

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and stuff, so he knew about all that.

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Feels like there's like everyone knows about it up up there,

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but for some reason, it's just like it's it's very

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strange how just people. You would think if everyone started

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talking about it with each other then would be able

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to figure out what's going on. But it is just

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it's a very strange thing, you know.

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Even now, even though up there and there's plenty of

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sightings and encounters up there, I know there is. It's

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just in the culture. It's like people talk about seeing

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a bear, so you're moose or deer. You know, Well,

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there's a sasquatch. Okay, I mean no, if I ran

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into a sasquatch right here where I live now, that'd

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be pretty'd be pretty shocked. I live in the desert.

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We got other things down here, like UFOs and aliens.

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Right right, absolutely, Yeah, it's it's just it's it's a

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weird thing. Have you how do you view the holes

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the whole subject, you know, kind of dealing with this

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and is this just like is it a big ape

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for you or something more?

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No? No, you know what when I was growing up

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and being around my dad and fishing and stuff, that's

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what we all were. You know they why would they

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name it apes Caves or Apes Canyon? It was the ape? Right,

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But when I ran into that big hairy guy at

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Stannhouse in my house, it was no ape. But there

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was something else that happened before that. Because my dad

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did come back. You know, he was pissed off about

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that truck, and I wasn't. I wasn't very anxious for

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him to come back. You know, he'd been gone for

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like three weeks or so, and he came back and

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I'm like, oh, you're kind of tiptoeing around him, and

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he says, hey, why don't you just I think he

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you know, he's been gone for three weeks and he's

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probably thinking about how I probably feel. They probably got

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over it, which he did. It's just a truck. He

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still got me right when he came back, he says, hey,

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you know, why don't you I can, you know, take

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me up on the mountain where you go where you

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take take off and go hiking. Because when I first

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got there, I was it was just me. It was

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one room cabin up in the mountain, and I had

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a kitchen in a little bathroom. That was it but

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for the house. But the but there was a two

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car garage with a like a shop attached to it

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to the back in the backside of it. And the

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shop was pretty cool because it was probably about twelve

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feet long by ten feet wide and it had a

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wood stove in it. So when my sister got there

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after a while, I figured, hey, you know what, I'm

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going to clean out that shop back there and make

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my bedroom back there. That way she could have the

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house because it kind of sucks, you don't having to

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share one room with your sister. You're like, you're both

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like she's like sixteen and I'm like seventeen years old

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or so, you know, And so just to get ourselves

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more our own space, our own privacy, I cleaned out

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that room back there, and I had a wood stove

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in it and stuff, so it was it was okay,

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you know, it was somewhere I could just go and

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have my own space and have heat. But so when

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my dad did come back, and that's what I do.

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My thing was, I would just take off and go

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up on the mountain hide around, and there was a

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mine up on that mountain that was a coal mine,

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and I would grab big chunks of coal and I'd

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bring them back down to the cabin. We'd throw a

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chunk of coal and fireplace at night and it would

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keep that house warm. And then I'd put chunks in

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my woodstone and it'd keep us warm all night. You

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wouldn't have to keep feeding logs, you know, stoking the

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fire in the winter. So that time he came back,

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he says, hey, why don't you show me where that

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place is that you go to. I said, all right,

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So I figured, you know, he wasn't too pissed off

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anymore about that truck, and I want to spend time

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with me, and so we went out and hiking and

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and he showed me he had He was like, hey,

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let's track some deer and stuff. And so we were

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getting on game trails and hiking all over off trail,

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seeing a couple of bear up by the mine there

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where I took him. There's a coup, there's a sound

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with a cub up there. And we came back. We're

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on our way back, and we went up this game

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trail and we're way up on the mountain, kind of

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going back towards where the cabin is, but way off

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trail up on the mountain, and he jumped, we jumped

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across this little it was like an old creek, like

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a dry creek bed, and he jumped across and motioned

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for me to jump over to one side as so

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not to disturb any tracks on the other side there.

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And it was all kind of a sandy area too,

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which was really good to see, you know, tracks and stuff.

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And so I jumped off to the side and he's

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pointing down at the putting his lip to his or

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his finger to his lip. You know, has to say

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speak quiet, you know. So he points at the ground

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and he showed me the gear tank tracks and I'm like, okay,

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you know, and then he points at this other track,

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this other track. It was a footprint, a human footprint,

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and it was perfect. It was the perfect footprint. Beautiful

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it was. It was pushed down in the sand and

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perfect to cast. This thing was the perfect footprint. It

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was only one in the whole area. We looked around

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for another track, but when he showed it to me,

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I was like, whoa, what do we got going on here?

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You know. I'm like, I'm just a kid, you know,

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what's going on here? And looking at it? He just

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looks at me, and I'm like, is there a hermit

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or something live up here on this mountain because it

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looks just like a footprint or human footprint. He's like, nope,

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not that I know of. And I'm like, well, what

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what is this thing? He says it's a sasquatch. I'm like,

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no way. He's like yeah, I said, you mean like apes,

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canyon apes, caves and all that. He was all he

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was look at me, going yeah, and he could see

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the look in my eye, I think, because he could

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tell I was freaking out because it was pretty fresh

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and it was probably tracking the same gear that we were.

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And he says, well, we can either keep going and

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see what happens, or we can just go down to

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the cabin and not say anything about this at all.

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And I'm like, well, if it's those things down there,

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an eagle cliff throwing them rock some bowlders and the

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water at us, trying to kill us, I don't want

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anything to do with this. I said, all race, you're

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acting the cabin did. I turned out and I boogie

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do there? Man? I was down that hill like lick

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and he split if you could, if you could run

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on top of bushes, I was, man, I'm down at

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the bottom of that hill and he's all you up

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there about halfway still, don't leave me here, And I said, okay,

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I'll wait for it. You know. He SUTs down and

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he says, hey, don't ever run, don't ever run. And

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that's what that was. Another lesson, you know, he was

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teaching me something. If it was a bear or something,

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and you if you triggered that prey drive, I'll come

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after you. And I was like, oh, yeah, okay, all right,

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I get it. And so he you know, that was

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a lesson, I said, within a lesson. And so he says, look,

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get back to the cabin. Don't say anything to this

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about this to your sister. We want her freaking out.

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And I said okay, and he says, he says, and

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don't say anything anybody. We don't want people to think

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you're crazy, because this isn't something you talk about. And

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so we got back down to the cabin and my

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sister she questioned me, she knew something something happened because

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she could see she's tell us so kind of freaked out.

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And he just said, yeah, we just ran into a bear.

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And so we just let that go. That maybe that

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was going to be the end of it. Yeah, And

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I you know, to this day, I really wish it

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was the end of it. But that's the end of

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that part of that. That's all that happened. Then my

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dad took off and he was gone for a few

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days because he had to go back out on the road.

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And so sister and I are sitting there getting ready

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to watch a movie or sitting not much to do

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with a kid, you know, up on the mountain in

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a little one bedroom cabin or one cat one room cabin,

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you know, or we're getting ready to watch a movie,

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and it was a kind of a chilling night, and

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I said, hey, I went over, threw a couple more

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logs on the fire in the fireplace and mentioned to

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her that, hey, you know what, before we start watching

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this movie, give me a little bit so I can

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go out and I'll start a fire in my bedroom.

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And wasn't going good fire going in that stove out there,

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because I didn't like going out there when it was cold.

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You know, get a little fire going and won the

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place up and it won't be so cold when I

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go out to go to bed. And I always did that.

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So so his sister gets up, she goes in kitchen

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and there's like just a little doorway. I'll, i'll, maybe

451
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I should should talk about how the layout is the

452
00:29:22.920 --> 00:29:30.359
little cabin there. So there's a couch sitting up against

453
00:29:30.359 --> 00:29:35.799
the wall. Behind the wall there's a window, and if

454
00:29:35.839 --> 00:29:39.519
you're standing there at the window, you could look out

455
00:29:39.720 --> 00:29:44.680
up on the at the hillside there where I would

456
00:29:44.680 --> 00:29:47.640
actually go through the fence to go up on them

457
00:29:48.279 --> 00:29:51.160
on the mountain and go hiking there's a little path

458
00:29:51.200 --> 00:29:54.920
that cut through. There's a hedgerow, blackberries all the way

459
00:29:54.960 --> 00:29:56.359
down the backside.

460
00:29:56.880 --> 00:30:00.480
Big for society will be right back after these messages, Yeah.

461
00:30:15.640 --> 00:30:21.920
The cabin, and so it created a nice little buffer

462
00:30:23.319 --> 00:30:26.759
for you know, animals not to roam right into your yard,

463
00:30:26.960 --> 00:30:30.920
you know. But like right in the right about in

464
00:30:31.000 --> 00:30:33.880
the middle, there was a little pathway that was open.

465
00:30:34.079 --> 00:30:39.400
It was all grassy, and that's where I would spread

466
00:30:39.400 --> 00:30:42.480
the barbed wire fence apart and crawl through. I had

467
00:30:42.519 --> 00:30:46.119
a little board that I'd prop up and then I'd

468
00:30:46.119 --> 00:30:48.839
crawl through because you couldn't step over it. It's for

469
00:30:48.839 --> 00:30:52.920
four wire barbed wire fence. It hit you just a puff,

470
00:30:53.079 --> 00:30:55.680
you know, you could almost push it down and kind

471
00:30:55.720 --> 00:30:59.799
of straddle it. Who wants to do that, right, So

472
00:31:00.480 --> 00:31:03.240
I just propping board up and crawl through. And if

473
00:31:03.240 --> 00:31:07.000
you're with a buddy, you know, one guy grabs a

474
00:31:07.000 --> 00:31:09.319
part of the barberre fence, the other person puts their

475
00:31:09.359 --> 00:31:12.039
foot down and you crawl through. And you just do

476
00:31:12.160 --> 00:31:14.559
that for each other to get through it. But I

477
00:31:14.599 --> 00:31:16.920
was always by myself, so I just have a branch

478
00:31:17.039 --> 00:31:22.920
or something spread it apart. But so if you right there,

479
00:31:23.079 --> 00:31:26.279
you'd look out that back window, and you'd see that

480
00:31:26.400 --> 00:31:28.440
spot where you could I could crawl through and go

481
00:31:28.799 --> 00:31:33.960
up the mountain. And the right of that was the yard.

482
00:31:34.319 --> 00:31:38.160
On the left side was my bedroom. If you're facing it,

483
00:31:38.519 --> 00:31:43.559
my bedroom's probably back about twenty feet from there, on

484
00:31:43.599 --> 00:31:46.559
the back side of the garage. So when i'd go

485
00:31:46.599 --> 00:31:48.960
out to my bedroom, there was a sliding glass door

486
00:31:48.960 --> 00:31:52.519
on the one side of the house right fireplace. So

487
00:31:52.559 --> 00:31:55.039
when I go out to my bedroom, I that slide

488
00:31:55.079 --> 00:32:02.480
glass door go around the into my bedroom. And we

489
00:32:02.559 --> 00:32:05.400
had a light on the end table where the couch

490
00:32:05.599 --> 00:32:09.039
was that was on at night, and it shined a

491
00:32:09.119 --> 00:32:11.559
light up on that hill right there and all behind

492
00:32:11.640 --> 00:32:16.079
there you could see pretty good. So we didn't have

493
00:32:16.160 --> 00:32:19.960
a porch light back there. We just used that light

494
00:32:20.519 --> 00:32:25.960
and it was enough. So I grab a handful of

495
00:32:27.200 --> 00:32:31.119
I stoked the fire there at the fireplace, grabbed a

496
00:32:31.160 --> 00:32:34.680
handful of canlan and rolled it up in some newspaper

497
00:32:34.720 --> 00:32:37.759
and a couple of logs and had it like a

498
00:32:37.759 --> 00:32:41.359
football underneath my arm, slide it out, slid open the back,

499
00:32:41.599 --> 00:32:47.559
slide glass door around that corner, went cruise around that corner.

500
00:32:48.000 --> 00:32:50.039
It's like I always did a hundred times. I don't

501
00:32:50.039 --> 00:32:51.960
know how many times I always did that, you know,

502
00:32:52.720 --> 00:32:55.920
But this night I went around that corner, wasn't really

503
00:32:55.920 --> 00:32:59.599
paying attention. It was just kind of in a hurry,

504
00:33:00.119 --> 00:33:04.480
and I ran right into something and I bounced off

505
00:33:04.519 --> 00:33:08.519
of it. So I hitting a brick wall and I

506
00:33:08.640 --> 00:33:10.839
bounced off of it and I fell on my butt.

507
00:33:11.799 --> 00:33:15.599
Firewood and kindling just goes everywhere, and here I am

508
00:33:15.640 --> 00:33:19.319
sitting on my butt looking up at this thing. And

509
00:33:19.519 --> 00:33:24.480
at the time, it wasn't even looking at me. It

510
00:33:24.640 --> 00:33:28.920
still was kind of crouched over looking through the top

511
00:33:28.960 --> 00:33:34.720
of the window in the house, and I was like,

512
00:33:34.799 --> 00:33:38.519
what the heck is this? And it must have noticed

513
00:33:38.519 --> 00:33:41.599
me because it just turned away from me and went

514
00:33:41.680 --> 00:33:44.000
down to all fours and I was like, I just

515
00:33:44.079 --> 00:33:48.079
ran into a bear. I better get up so this

516
00:33:48.119 --> 00:33:51.079
thing isn't mall me while I'm laying on the ground.

517
00:33:51.880 --> 00:33:55.160
So I jump up on my feet and it's like

518
00:33:55.920 --> 00:33:59.960
doing this movement away from me, and I'm just staying

519
00:34:00.000 --> 00:34:02.920
in there, and I'm like, wait a minute, this isn't

520
00:34:02.960 --> 00:34:07.400
a bear. Because the bears that we had there they

521
00:34:07.400 --> 00:34:11.119
were just tiny black bears. This thing was like probably

522
00:34:11.119 --> 00:34:15.199
about four and a half feet tall. At its back.

523
00:34:16.239 --> 00:34:18.159
I'm like, oh, maybe this was a deer, so I

524
00:34:18.199 --> 00:34:20.320
didn't I wasn't afraid of it. I'm like, oh, it's

525
00:34:20.400 --> 00:34:23.559
just a deer, I'm like, or an elk or something.

526
00:34:23.639 --> 00:34:27.440
I'm like, oh, well, I'm like and I backed off

527
00:34:27.440 --> 00:34:29.159
a little bit and I gave it a space and

528
00:34:29.920 --> 00:34:31.679
looking at him, like, wait a minute, this thing isn't

529
00:34:32.800 --> 00:34:36.360
what is this thing? And I could see, like I

530
00:34:36.400 --> 00:34:40.159
had longer hair than an elk or it wasn't fur,

531
00:34:40.320 --> 00:34:43.480
it was hair, and it was parted down in its back,

532
00:34:43.599 --> 00:34:45.280
right down the middle of its back, and I could

533
00:34:45.360 --> 00:34:47.599
kind of make out that the skin color of it,

534
00:34:47.679 --> 00:34:50.960
and it was kind of weird because it was lighter

535
00:34:51.039 --> 00:34:53.840
skin on its back and you could kind of see flakes.

536
00:34:54.280 --> 00:34:57.000
I mean, even thinking about it today, I'm going back

537
00:34:57.039 --> 00:35:00.239
to that moment and I can still see the like

538
00:35:01.039 --> 00:35:03.960
little dandruff flakes or something on its skin, and I'm

539
00:35:03.960 --> 00:35:07.840
like still trying to puzzle, trying to my brain's trying

540
00:35:07.880 --> 00:35:11.679
to rationalize this thing. What is this. I'm going through

541
00:35:11.760 --> 00:35:15.000
the list of animals of what it could be, and

542
00:35:15.119 --> 00:35:20.480
nothing's nothing's jiving with what it should be. And then

543
00:35:20.519 --> 00:35:24.559
it and it makes us noise and It's probably about

544
00:35:24.599 --> 00:35:27.440
three feet away from me at this point. It makes

545
00:35:27.519 --> 00:35:31.840
us noise and it says and it goes ooh, and

546
00:35:31.920 --> 00:35:36.400
it stands up and it turned around and looked right

547
00:35:36.480 --> 00:35:42.440
at me. And that's when I started freaking out, because

548
00:35:42.559 --> 00:35:48.880
it looked at me. It had its eyes were so huge,

549
00:35:49.239 --> 00:35:51.679
and it was looking at me with this really surprised

550
00:35:51.679 --> 00:35:57.199
look on its face. So it was just as much

551
00:35:57.280 --> 00:36:01.119
a surprise that I was there then is I was

552
00:36:01.280 --> 00:36:04.880
surprised as it was there, but it was showing this

553
00:36:05.159 --> 00:36:08.400
very surprised look on its face like a human would.

554
00:36:08.639 --> 00:36:10.639
And I'm like, wait a minute, what is this thing?

555
00:36:11.039 --> 00:36:13.760
And when this thing stood up, it just like kept

556
00:36:13.800 --> 00:36:16.320
standing up. And now I'm looking straight up at this

557
00:36:16.360 --> 00:36:21.519
thing and it's probably i'd say every bit of nine

558
00:36:21.559 --> 00:36:26.000
feet tall, and I'm like wow, And the first thing

559
00:36:26.000 --> 00:36:28.480
that came out of my mouth was what the f?

560
00:36:29.840 --> 00:36:35.239
You know? And I'm looking at this thing and I'm like, WHOA,

561
00:36:35.519 --> 00:36:38.199
Am I really seeing what I'm seeing here? And I'm

562
00:36:38.239 --> 00:36:41.360
like shaking my head and rubbing my eyes, and I'm like, yeah,

563
00:36:41.400 --> 00:36:45.199
this is what this is for real, this is really happening,

564
00:36:45.679 --> 00:36:48.960
and it's and then it takes two steps two or

565
00:36:49.000 --> 00:36:52.639
three steps, and when it stepped, you can feel the

566
00:36:52.719 --> 00:36:56.320
ground just tremble every step it took. And I'm like,

567
00:36:56.440 --> 00:36:59.559
oh man, all right, all right, take an easy, big guy.

568
00:37:00.039 --> 00:37:02.480
And I'm like backing off now. And now I'm backing off.

569
00:37:03.159 --> 00:37:06.159
And it stepped, and it stepped right over that barb

570
00:37:06.280 --> 00:37:09.079
wire fence like it wasn't even there. And there's a

571
00:37:09.159 --> 00:37:12.320
headero of blackberries right there, so it couldn't just like

572
00:37:12.880 --> 00:37:16.519
to go right through them or breast. I bet it could,

573
00:37:16.519 --> 00:37:21.079
but it didn't. And and then it like kind of

574
00:37:21.119 --> 00:37:24.239
squatted down a little bit and it made this noise

575
00:37:26.079 --> 00:37:28.840
kind of like a what you would hear from a

576
00:37:28.880 --> 00:37:34.280
big cat like this, not a kind of like a

577
00:37:34.320 --> 00:37:39.840
purring sound. And I was like, whoa, this isn't It

578
00:37:39.880 --> 00:37:44.960
wasn't growling, but it was like, whoa, what is going

579
00:37:45.000 --> 00:37:49.559
on here? And I'm like back and off. I'm back

580
00:37:49.559 --> 00:37:55.119
and off. And then it let out a scream. And

581
00:37:55.400 --> 00:38:00.440
all of this happened in one breath, lets out the

582
00:38:00.639 --> 00:38:06.079
screen just like a man. So when it screamed, it

583
00:38:06.199 --> 00:38:11.920
triggered me to scream, so I screamed too, And by

584
00:38:11.960 --> 00:38:15.599
the time I was done screaming, it had perfected my scream.

585
00:38:15.719 --> 00:38:22.239
It matched my scream perfectly. It mimicked my spity, but

586
00:38:22.320 --> 00:38:27.679
it was like a hundred times louder and bigger. And

587
00:38:27.760 --> 00:38:31.960
I was like whoa. And it transitioned from that scream

588
00:38:34.239 --> 00:38:39.840
right into a high pitch screech, and it was so

589
00:38:40.119 --> 00:38:45.559
high and it was just it was ear piercing high,

590
00:38:45.840 --> 00:38:48.480
and I had to cover my ears. At first, I

591
00:38:48.519 --> 00:38:50.920
cut my ears and it wasn't enough, so I stuffed

592
00:38:50.920 --> 00:38:54.760
my fingers in my ears so that to keep my

593
00:38:54.880 --> 00:38:58.960
ears from my ear drums from breaking. And I could

594
00:38:59.440 --> 00:39:02.800
hear my feeling my ears popping and stuff, and I

595
00:39:02.920 --> 00:39:07.039
kept going, oh no, no, stop screaming, Scott, stop screeching, stop,

596
00:39:07.119 --> 00:39:11.000
stop stuff. And then it finally stops. I'm like, oh,

597
00:39:11.039 --> 00:39:15.519
thank god. And it went from that screech and transitions

598
00:39:16.239 --> 00:39:19.039
straight into a wolf howl, and I'm like whoa. And

599
00:39:19.079 --> 00:39:21.320
now it's it's standing up and I can see it

600
00:39:21.440 --> 00:39:24.119
up on that hill in that light, and it's got

601
00:39:24.159 --> 00:39:28.320
its arms back, chest out, and it's howling straight up

602
00:39:29.280 --> 00:39:32.400
like you could imagine. You can only imagine. You know.

603
00:39:33.039 --> 00:39:38.440
It's really hard to explain because it was it was scary,

604
00:39:38.800 --> 00:39:42.400
and I did everything I could from just falling down,

605
00:39:42.519 --> 00:39:47.199
you know, because it was all so intense, and and

606
00:39:47.280 --> 00:39:52.760
it went from that howl straight into that big roar,

607
00:39:53.599 --> 00:39:55.960
and I was like, when it roared, I thought I

608
00:39:56.039 --> 00:39:57.559
was a dead man. That's when I thought I was

609
00:39:57.599 --> 00:40:05.679
gonna die, because every in my body trembled, trembled, and

610
00:40:05.719 --> 00:40:11.639
it just it yelled, screeched, hal roared right through my

611
00:40:11.880 --> 00:40:15.559
soul and I was just standing there and I couldn't move,

612
00:40:16.840 --> 00:40:23.079
scared to death. After it did that, I thought, that's it.

613
00:40:23.519 --> 00:40:26.119
That's it now. I guess it's gonna kill me now.

614
00:40:29.559 --> 00:40:36.800
And obviously it didn't. But after that, it pounded its

615
00:40:36.920 --> 00:40:41.920
chest just like an ape. It pounded its chest and

616
00:40:42.000 --> 00:40:45.480
it cupped its fingers. Have you ever heard an ape

617
00:40:45.519 --> 00:40:48.000
in the wild pound its chest and it makes up

618
00:40:48.039 --> 00:40:54.679
popping sound. Yeah, that's what it sounded like. And then

619
00:40:54.719 --> 00:41:02.679
it said something. I said some it was. It was

620
00:41:02.760 --> 00:41:07.800
just some gibberish. And then I turned around and charged

621
00:41:07.920 --> 00:41:10.840
right through that spot where because it was dead, it

622
00:41:10.960 --> 00:41:14.920
was standing right there where I would go through defense

623
00:41:15.000 --> 00:41:18.960
and off the trail and go up on the mountain

624
00:41:19.039 --> 00:41:23.320
right there. And it turned around and it ran through

625
00:41:23.360 --> 00:41:27.840
that area. And as it got out of that area,

626
00:41:27.960 --> 00:41:33.679
all I could hear were trees fallen and bushes crashing,

627
00:41:33.800 --> 00:41:37.119
and it was like a bulldozer, like an elephant going

628
00:41:37.199 --> 00:41:42.559
through all that up onto the mountain. And it's like,

629
00:41:42.880 --> 00:41:44.639
of course, I'm just scared to death. And I wish

630
00:41:44.719 --> 00:41:46.920
I could just say that I was brave and I

631
00:41:47.000 --> 00:41:50.519
was just standing on my ground. But Jeremiah, I couldn't

632
00:41:50.519 --> 00:41:53.400
even run, and I wanted to, but I couldn't. My

633
00:41:53.519 --> 00:41:57.800
legs were I was frozen. And I turned and I

634
00:41:57.880 --> 00:42:00.960
turned to go back in the house. As I turned,

635
00:42:01.000 --> 00:42:03.880
I looked down the fence line and I seen something

636
00:42:03.920 --> 00:42:08.079
else down the fence line jump over the fence, or

637
00:42:08.119 --> 00:42:10.599
step over the fence and start running up that way too,

638
00:42:11.239 --> 00:42:13.400
And I'm like, oh, there's another one. And then I

639
00:42:14.039 --> 00:42:17.199
wait in the house and my sister's standing there and

640
00:42:17.239 --> 00:42:20.360
she's standing there going what was that? And I told her,

641
00:42:20.440 --> 00:42:23.400
I said that's that was a sasquatch, and she's like,

642
00:42:23.480 --> 00:42:26.639
no way. I'm like, yeah, that's what happened. We heard

643
00:42:26.679 --> 00:42:28.960
it all. And she goes, oh, and she was standing

644
00:42:29.039 --> 00:42:31.599
right in the kitchen. She's standing in the doorway in

645
00:42:31.639 --> 00:42:34.039
the kitchen and she turned to walk away and she

646
00:42:34.159 --> 00:42:36.599
thought she's seen one in the window. Right there at

647
00:42:36.639 --> 00:42:39.559
the sink, and she jumped and screamed, and I'm like, oh, so,

648
00:42:39.599 --> 00:42:41.559
I said, just shut off all the lights, shut off,

649
00:42:41.559 --> 00:42:44.639
all the lights, close the doors, lock him, and we

650
00:42:44.840 --> 00:42:47.679
just kind of we just kind of curled up right

651
00:42:47.679 --> 00:42:52.719
there in the living room waiting for everything to chill out.

652
00:42:52.840 --> 00:42:54.480
And I said, I think they're gone. I think I

653
00:42:54.519 --> 00:43:00.559
don't think they're coming back. And so but oh, that's it.

654
00:43:01.159 --> 00:43:07.840
That was the That was the probably the scariest part

655
00:43:07.880 --> 00:43:13.400
of running into any of this subject out there, And

656
00:43:13.440 --> 00:43:16.519
that was when I was like seventeen eighteen years old.

657
00:43:17.840 --> 00:43:21.400
I think it was just either before or after Mount

658
00:43:21.480 --> 00:43:22.639
Saint Helen's erupted.

659
00:43:26.000 --> 00:43:31.519
That. That is extremely intense and there's a lot of

660
00:43:31.599 --> 00:43:37.760
interesting stuff from that. Just the fact that you saw

661
00:43:37.800 --> 00:43:45.320
it actually mimic yourself extremely quick is super super interesting.

662
00:43:46.079 --> 00:43:48.440
Did you see any any tracks or anything?

663
00:43:48.599 --> 00:43:48.719
Like?

664
00:43:48.760 --> 00:43:52.280
How was the How was the next day after after that?

665
00:43:52.400 --> 00:43:54.199
Did you go outside or did you not?

666
00:43:54.360 --> 00:43:54.679
Really?

667
00:43:55.880 --> 00:43:57.599
I mean, how were you the next day?

668
00:43:59.039 --> 00:44:02.599
Next day? I was like, well, that night, we're like

669
00:44:03.960 --> 00:44:06.519
my sister was saying, hey, you're not You're not sleeping

670
00:44:06.519 --> 00:44:10.239
out there in that room. Yeah. I stayed in the house.

671
00:44:10.639 --> 00:44:12.880
But the next day, of course, I went out and

672
00:44:13.000 --> 00:44:15.239
checked it out. I went to see if where the

673
00:44:15.280 --> 00:44:19.199
trees were that he'd knocked over and stuff, if he

674
00:44:19.239 --> 00:44:21.559
had left any you know, I could see where the

675
00:44:21.599 --> 00:44:25.880
trees of course were knocked down, because that was I

676
00:44:25.920 --> 00:44:29.039
spent months up there on that mountain checking things out.

677
00:44:29.519 --> 00:44:31.840
At that area where he just went through. There were

678
00:44:31.920 --> 00:44:34.320
trees that were there and now they're on the ground.

679
00:44:35.159 --> 00:44:37.119
But yeah, I did. I went and checked it out.

680
00:44:37.679 --> 00:44:42.039
But I mean, yeah, there was you know, evidence that

681
00:44:42.159 --> 00:44:43.480
I'm cruising through there.

682
00:44:44.000 --> 00:44:46.800
Big for society would be right back after these messages,

683
00:45:05.159 --> 00:45:09.360
man man alive. It's just incredible how close you were

684
00:45:10.239 --> 00:45:16.840
to which probably I'm guessing was like looking at your

685
00:45:16.880 --> 00:45:22.599
sister through the window or like very distracted.

686
00:45:22.920 --> 00:45:26.440
Exactly, yeah, exactly. So when I first looked at when

687
00:45:26.480 --> 00:45:29.960
I'm you know, I got to I've had some time

688
00:45:30.000 --> 00:45:35.280
to figure it out. At first, I thought, well, maybe

689
00:45:35.320 --> 00:45:41.800
it's what you know, what I was thinking, because I

690
00:45:41.880 --> 00:45:44.360
ran into this kid that lived up on the mountain

691
00:45:44.559 --> 00:45:48.039
when I was out hiking one day, ran into this

692
00:45:48.599 --> 00:45:52.440
It was like twelve thirteen years old, and here I am,

693
00:45:52.599 --> 00:45:56.079
like sixteen seventeen. Of course, it's not something I'm going

694
00:45:56.119 --> 00:45:59.760
to hang out with. But I was. I was following

695
00:45:59.760 --> 00:46:01.920
this freak up the mountain. It was kind of neat

696
00:46:01.960 --> 00:46:05.920
because it had brook trout in it, and I wouldn't

697
00:46:06.000 --> 00:46:08.679
be being a fisherman. I was like amazed by this

698
00:46:08.719 --> 00:46:13.199
because the creek was only about maybe two feet wide.

699
00:46:13.639 --> 00:46:16.119
I mean you could step over it. It was a

700
00:46:16.119 --> 00:46:19.880
little deep, and it had brook trout running up it,

701
00:46:19.920 --> 00:46:21.920
and it was so thick full of fish you could

702
00:46:21.920 --> 00:46:24.639
actually reach down and pick one up once in a while.

703
00:46:25.320 --> 00:46:28.119
It's kind of fun. And so I'm here, I am

704
00:46:28.199 --> 00:46:30.280
checking out this creek and that must have been a

705
00:46:30.320 --> 00:46:33.000
little spawning season or something, because there were a lot there.

706
00:46:33.679 --> 00:46:36.760
And I ran out this kid and he's a, hey,

707
00:46:36.800 --> 00:46:38.840
what are you doing. I said, Oh, I've just moved here,

708
00:46:38.960 --> 00:46:42.559
blah blah blah, and I've been kind of cruising around

709
00:46:42.760 --> 00:46:45.440
checking out the mountain, you know, kind of exploring a

710
00:46:45.480 --> 00:46:48.719
little bit. And he goes, oh, okay, because I'd be

711
00:46:48.719 --> 00:46:51.800
careful if I were you. I'm like, why, he goes,

712
00:46:52.400 --> 00:46:57.039
there's bigfoot on this mountain? Like what? He goes, Yeah,

713
00:46:57.039 --> 00:47:02.239
there's bigfoot on this mountain. I'm like, well, tell me more,

714
00:47:02.719 --> 00:47:05.840
and he says, oh yeah, they come around the neighborhood

715
00:47:05.840 --> 00:47:11.360
and they slap houses and looking windows, and I'm like, no, okay,

716
00:47:11.519 --> 00:47:14.639
whatever that I was on with my way and I

717
00:47:14.719 --> 00:47:19.480
kept just hiking around the mountain, And that was before

718
00:47:19.519 --> 00:47:22.719
the incident happened, So that's what it was doing. It

719
00:47:22.760 --> 00:47:27.360
was just doing its things, ran around the neighborhood, slapping

720
00:47:27.360 --> 00:47:32.119
houses and looking at windows. But then again the TV

721
00:47:32.360 --> 00:47:35.480
was like right there, so I'm like thinking, what could it?

722
00:47:35.719 --> 00:47:41.800
Why would this thing, why would this thing be surprised?

723
00:47:42.719 --> 00:47:44.639
How is it that I ran out of the house

724
00:47:44.679 --> 00:47:47.360
and ran into this thing and didn't I mean, aren't

725
00:47:47.360 --> 00:47:49.880
these things supposed to be so elusive that they could

726
00:47:50.159 --> 00:47:58.480
sense you coming around the corner or something? Right? I

727
00:47:58.559 --> 00:48:00.719
honestly think it was like at my sister.

728
00:48:00.960 --> 00:48:03.800
Oh absolutely, I would guess That's what I would guess.

729
00:48:03.840 --> 00:48:08.159
I mean just from talking to different people over the years.

730
00:48:08.239 --> 00:48:11.599
And that makes me wonder if if this area is

731
00:48:11.679 --> 00:48:17.320
still known for like just you know, bigfoot messing with

732
00:48:17.320 --> 00:48:23.719
with people. And I'm not overly familiar with this area ISQua.

733
00:48:22.960 --> 00:48:25.920
But I would I would like to go back one day,

734
00:48:25.960 --> 00:48:29.559
and because I can Google Earth, even that house right there,

735
00:48:30.039 --> 00:48:33.800
and it hasn't changed that much. Really hasn't changed that

736
00:48:33.880 --> 00:48:36.039
much in forty years. There's some houses built up on

737
00:48:36.039 --> 00:48:39.239
the mountain right there, but even the back area of

738
00:48:39.280 --> 00:48:43.199
that house and where I would go up on the

739
00:48:43.280 --> 00:48:45.159
trail there and go up on the mountain, that hasn't

740
00:48:45.239 --> 00:48:48.599
changed at all. In fact, now that I know that

741
00:48:48.679 --> 00:48:51.800
I look at it, there's a power line trail goes

742
00:48:51.840 --> 00:48:54.079
straight behind that house, went all the way over the

743
00:48:54.079 --> 00:48:58.360
mountain down into the town. Okay, it's all power line trail.

744
00:49:00.119 --> 00:49:02.719
It's straight up over the mountain down into the town.

745
00:49:03.079 --> 00:49:04.679
And that's how my sister and I would go to

746
00:49:04.719 --> 00:49:10.039
the grocery store. You'd have to hike down the side

747
00:49:10.039 --> 00:49:11.599
of the mountain right there and go into the town.

748
00:49:13.920 --> 00:49:19.119
So what what happened when when you had told your

749
00:49:19.239 --> 00:49:23.320
uh sorry is your your father? Correct?

750
00:49:24.400 --> 00:49:25.679
My dad? Yeah? Yeah?

751
00:49:25.880 --> 00:49:28.599
How did how did that go when you had when

752
00:49:28.639 --> 00:49:30.559
you told him what happened? Or maybe you didn't tell

753
00:49:30.599 --> 00:49:31.639
him what happened at all?

754
00:49:32.239 --> 00:49:35.519
No, I told him, yeaw, I told him right away

755
00:49:36.039 --> 00:49:38.280
because I told him I wanted to gone m hm.

756
00:49:40.239 --> 00:49:44.719
And back then we had this this is the old

757
00:49:45.639 --> 00:49:49.880
It was called a Ben Franklin drug store. And on

758
00:49:49.960 --> 00:49:52.440
the one side of the store they sold fire arms,

759
00:49:53.599 --> 00:49:55.920
and my dad my dad's water and hall. Where are

760
00:49:55.920 --> 00:49:58.480
you going, Drake Derrett? And I was right next door,

761
00:49:59.599 --> 00:50:01.440
so I'd go down there with him, go down to

762
00:50:01.440 --> 00:50:03.760
the he'd go into the bar, and I just go

763
00:50:03.800 --> 00:50:06.400
into town or whatever. And then I went into that

764
00:50:06.519 --> 00:50:09.760
Ben Franklin's and I walked over to the to where

765
00:50:09.800 --> 00:50:11.480
the guns were, and I asked the guy behind the

766
00:50:11.519 --> 00:50:15.320
counter and said, Hey, so what's the biggest gun you got.

767
00:50:16.840 --> 00:50:20.639
He goes, well, it depends on what you're shooting. I said, well,

768
00:50:20.719 --> 00:50:23.360
just for protection? What would you use for a bear

769
00:50:23.559 --> 00:50:25.800
or something? Because I'm not still not going to talk

770
00:50:25.840 --> 00:50:28.920
about it because my dad said not to talk about that.

771
00:50:30.239 --> 00:50:33.079
And he says, well, I got this twelve gauge right here.

772
00:50:33.159 --> 00:50:37.719
I said, anything bigger. I don't think the twelve gage

773
00:50:37.800 --> 00:50:40.599
is going to work. You know. He's like he's looking

774
00:50:40.599 --> 00:50:42.880
at me, kind of funny. He goes, well, the only

775
00:50:42.920 --> 00:50:45.079
thing I got any bigger than that here is this

776
00:50:45.320 --> 00:50:48.719
ten gauge. He said, okay. I walked over to the

777
00:50:48.719 --> 00:50:51.679
bar and grabbed my dad and said, I want to

778
00:50:51.719 --> 00:50:53.960
buy this ten cage this next door. I didn't have

779
00:50:54.000 --> 00:50:57.519
any money. I had just got there, no job, or anything.

780
00:50:57.599 --> 00:51:01.840
And he's like, well, okay, he walks up buys the

781
00:51:01.880 --> 00:51:05.760
gun for me. It was an old ten gauge double barrel.

782
00:51:07.039 --> 00:51:10.480
That's what I carried with me to go outside to

783
00:51:10.519 --> 00:51:13.519
go to my bedroom. After that, I was like, uh,

784
00:51:13.599 --> 00:51:19.280
locked and loaded, ready, ready, first assquatch. Wow.

785
00:51:19.920 --> 00:51:22.960
And he's just like, yeah, absolutely, need you need it?

786
00:51:23.039 --> 00:51:28.639
Yep, yes, wow, here you go. Okay, But I'll tell

787
00:51:28.639 --> 00:51:31.840
you what, Jeremiah, I got a pretty good look at

788
00:51:31.880 --> 00:51:41.280
this thing. It it was. It was a face that

789
00:51:41.840 --> 00:51:45.480
was burned into my brain that I'll never ever ever forget.

790
00:51:46.519 --> 00:51:50.039
The look on its face is what I remember the most.

791
00:51:51.079 --> 00:51:56.800
It was so wild and crazy looking. Its eyes were

792
00:51:57.119 --> 00:52:03.079
like almost the size of baseball, big white eyes popping

793
00:52:03.119 --> 00:52:06.199
out of his head with the black iris in the middle.

794
00:52:07.639 --> 00:52:10.320
And its mouth was wide open when it looked at me,

795
00:52:10.840 --> 00:52:13.840
and I was like, it was like it disconnected his

796
00:52:14.039 --> 00:52:16.679
jaw or something. That they had such a big mouth.

797
00:52:17.599 --> 00:52:24.800
He could fit a watermelon in this dude's mouth. And

798
00:52:24.840 --> 00:52:28.599
then it eventually closed his mouth. And I had a

799
00:52:28.719 --> 00:52:32.039
mustache and a beard, but it wasn't real thick like

800
00:52:32.119 --> 00:52:37.760
you would think it was. Now living it after I've

801
00:52:37.800 --> 00:52:40.039
lived in Alaska, I lived up in Alaska for a

802
00:52:40.039 --> 00:52:48.440
few years, like thirteen years, and running into natives up there.

803
00:52:49.199 --> 00:52:53.559
They have a certain look to him and Jeremiah, this thing,

804
00:52:53.880 --> 00:52:56.639
if I was to explain to you how it looked,

805
00:52:56.840 --> 00:53:00.639
looks more like a Native American this one did, anyway

806
00:53:00.719 --> 00:53:05.119
to me, because they don't grow a real thick mustache

807
00:53:05.159 --> 00:53:09.239
and beard, but they can. It's just kind of thin.

808
00:53:09.880 --> 00:53:13.000
And that's how its thing was, and its nose, this

809
00:53:13.039 --> 00:53:16.599
thing was. Its head was about as big as a

810
00:53:17.639 --> 00:53:21.960
rim on my truck. It was a big and it

811
00:53:22.039 --> 00:53:26.480
didn't have a conical head either. It was round, because

812
00:53:26.519 --> 00:53:30.960
I've seen other depictions of sas question, that doesn't look

813
00:53:31.159 --> 00:53:33.800
I mean, it's close, but not not the one that

814
00:53:33.840 --> 00:53:40.360
I've seen anyway. And its skin color was like like

815
00:53:40.480 --> 00:53:48.440
a gray like a grayish black had. His face was

816
00:53:48.480 --> 00:53:52.480
a little blotchy and have some some freckles and stuff

817
00:53:52.519 --> 00:53:58.519
on it, like moles and stuff. You know. I got

818
00:53:58.559 --> 00:54:01.840
a pretty good look at this thing. And then when

819
00:54:01.880 --> 00:54:07.440
it closed its mouth, it did the shape of the

820
00:54:07.519 --> 00:54:12.239
perfect oh that was before when it turned and looked

821
00:54:12.239 --> 00:54:14.760
at me, when it first stood up and looked right

822
00:54:14.800 --> 00:54:17.719
at me, it did all that, and I could see

823
00:54:17.960 --> 00:54:20.880
all the facial features on him and in what he

824
00:54:21.000 --> 00:54:23.800
was doing, and the surprise look on his face. And

825
00:54:23.960 --> 00:54:26.159
I'm sure I was just as surprised. I probably had

826
00:54:26.199 --> 00:54:29.119
the same look on my face, but I didn't do

827
00:54:29.159 --> 00:54:31.519
the perfect oh like had. It just looked kind of

828
00:54:31.559 --> 00:54:36.519
like the mask of a Native American mask of sasquatch

829
00:54:36.719 --> 00:54:43.239
where it has the mouth, you know, you know, and

830
00:54:43.440 --> 00:54:48.000
the crazy eyes. That's what I say. Man, that was it?

831
00:54:49.880 --> 00:54:53.400
Well that and that that was that was it? That

832
00:54:53.559 --> 00:54:58.480
is so so that's that's just wild.

833
00:54:58.719 --> 00:55:02.559
And it was a like a chestnut color. It wasn't brown,

834
00:55:02.760 --> 00:55:12.000
wasn't black. It was in between brown and red. It's

835
00:55:12.760 --> 00:55:18.119
arms went, hands went down past his knees. And the

836
00:55:18.679 --> 00:55:21.199
thing about it is is the way it walked. It

837
00:55:21.280 --> 00:55:25.199
was kind of clumsy. It kind of it's like its

838
00:55:25.280 --> 00:55:32.480
upper leg and its lower leg weren't proportional like ours are.

839
00:55:33.800 --> 00:55:38.280
It's almost like his lower leg or shorter than where

840
00:55:38.280 --> 00:55:43.920
our knee bends. And so like when it was on

841
00:55:44.000 --> 00:55:50.280
all fours, it was level on the ground. It's arms

842
00:55:50.280 --> 00:55:55.599
to be longer, brought its front up or it's you know,

843
00:55:55.719 --> 00:55:59.639
the front part of his body brought it up, and

844
00:55:59.679 --> 00:56:04.840
then the leg where it bent so it was proportional,

845
00:56:04.880 --> 00:56:09.679
even though it was on all fours. What every step

846
00:56:09.719 --> 00:56:15.320
it took, it was like it trembled the ground. You

847
00:56:15.320 --> 00:56:19.880
could fill the ground shake every step. I don't know

848
00:56:19.880 --> 00:56:22.119
if it was doing that on purpose or what, but

849
00:56:22.360 --> 00:56:28.639
it didn't definitely displayed some character of you know, alpha

850
00:56:28.679 --> 00:56:34.800
male right doing all this yelling and screaming and chest.

851
00:56:34.679 --> 00:56:44.239
Bounded around that around that home. Would you ever have

852
00:56:44.360 --> 00:56:49.360
like gifting things happening, or like weird things left around

853
00:56:49.440 --> 00:56:52.199
your your place or anything like.

854
00:56:52.119 --> 00:56:56.840
That, you know, if there anything like that happened. I

855
00:56:56.880 --> 00:57:02.280
didn't notice it, but I did have a dog and

856
00:57:02.400 --> 00:57:07.679
it came up missing. So I'm pretty sure they probably

857
00:57:08.599 --> 00:57:10.920
I hate that dog because it was always on a

858
00:57:11.000 --> 00:57:17.440
chain outside. It was gone, So they didn't leave anything.

859
00:57:17.679 --> 00:57:19.079
It took more than they left.

860
00:57:21.920 --> 00:57:27.159
Oh when when they took the dog or yeah right, yeah.

861
00:57:27.079 --> 00:57:31.119
Yeah, and and well not just that, but they're all

862
00:57:31.159 --> 00:57:34.000
the blackberries would be gone, all the apples on the

863
00:57:34.039 --> 00:57:37.320
apple trees would be gone. Never ever have any fruit,

864
00:57:39.239 --> 00:57:48.719
didn't use it all. I just wonder now thinking back

865
00:57:49.559 --> 00:57:52.800
that you know, I ran around that corner and ran

866
00:57:52.840 --> 00:57:55.320
into him, and he's standing there looking at my window.

867
00:57:57.239 --> 00:58:00.679
I know what was going through my head. But now

868
00:58:00.679 --> 00:58:04.440
I think about trying to be an issue and wonder

869
00:58:04.480 --> 00:58:08.400
about I wonder what was going through his head. He's

870
00:58:08.440 --> 00:58:11.199
probably thinking this crazy human come around around the corner

871
00:58:11.239 --> 00:58:21.840
room right, said, hey, stop looking at my sister. What

872
00:58:21.920 --> 00:58:23.239
was it thinking? You know? Right?

873
00:58:23.480 --> 00:58:30.280
Yeah, exactly, Yeah, that's that's just such so wild.

874
00:58:31.400 --> 00:58:34.440
Get out of here. You imagine what it was probably thinking.

875
00:58:34.440 --> 00:58:36.559
It probably knew it got busted and I was given

876
00:58:38.760 --> 00:58:40.400
the what for something.

877
00:58:40.559 --> 00:58:46.440
I don't know, stay there for a while or not

878
00:58:46.599 --> 00:58:47.360
too much longer.

879
00:58:49.519 --> 00:58:52.679
I was there for a couple of years. Yeah, So

880
00:58:53.360 --> 00:58:57.360
you know, when stuff like this happens to people for

881
00:58:57.400 --> 00:59:01.559
some reason. People, I've heard a lot stuff. I'm not

882
00:59:01.639 --> 00:59:04.920
a research or anything, but I listened to podcasts and

883
00:59:05.480 --> 00:59:08.559
I've been listening to your podcast for a while, and

884
00:59:09.239 --> 00:59:12.559
I got to I got to hand it to my wife, really,

885
00:59:13.119 --> 00:59:15.400
because if it wasn't for her, I would never have

886
00:59:15.480 --> 00:59:20.880
told any of my encounters to anyone. She's the one

887
00:59:20.920 --> 00:59:26.599
that encourages me and pushes me to do that. I

888
00:59:26.639 --> 00:59:28.960
don't I'm not the type of person that would just

889
00:59:29.000 --> 00:59:33.760
come out, start up, start up a conversation about it.

890
00:59:33.960 --> 00:59:38.039
You know, it's been something I've been had locked up

891
00:59:38.079 --> 00:59:40.960
in the vault in me for forty years. Yeah, and

892
00:59:41.000 --> 00:59:43.880
I'm not talking about it. I really want me to

893
00:59:43.920 --> 00:59:47.239
talk about this, She said, yeah, you need to share.

894
00:59:48.000 --> 00:59:51.400
I said, wow, okay, And so I tried. I've been

895
00:59:51.400 --> 00:59:55.440
trying for a couple of years. But you know, I

896
00:59:55.599 --> 00:59:59.360
think I've been talking a little while before this for

897
00:59:59.400 --> 01:00:02.360
some reason, you know, people don't want to release it

898
01:00:02.440 --> 01:00:05.039
or something I don't know, or just haven't got to it.

899
01:00:05.079 --> 01:00:09.400
That's all right, but I'm trying. I'm doing my part

900
01:00:10.119 --> 01:00:10.880
big for society.

901
01:00:11.000 --> 01:00:31.360
Will be right back after these messages, and that's all

902
01:00:31.400 --> 01:00:35.840
you can do for sure. What was it like when

903
01:00:35.840 --> 01:00:39.320
you first shared that with your your wife?

904
01:00:42.440 --> 01:00:45.360
It was it was actually something that happened when we

905
01:00:45.360 --> 01:00:50.199
were in church. We were all sitting around one day

906
01:00:50.239 --> 01:00:55.719
after church, sitting taking in the sanctuary, and somebody asked

907
01:00:55.760 --> 01:00:59.639
me about my encounter. And there was a few people

908
01:00:59.679 --> 01:01:02.920
sitting there that had never even heard of anything like

909
01:01:03.000 --> 01:01:05.800
this or had interest in it, but never heard anybody

910
01:01:07.800 --> 01:01:11.559
give an encounter, like say, an encounter or their story.

911
01:01:11.760 --> 01:01:14.760
And so I was like, well, I don't know, and

912
01:01:14.800 --> 01:01:18.280
I'm really choosy about the crowd that I share the

913
01:01:18.320 --> 01:01:21.519
story with I'm looking around like, I don't know, man,

914
01:01:21.599 --> 01:01:24.280
I don't think this is really the right place or

915
01:01:24.440 --> 01:01:28.400
anything to tell this, But they drug it out of me.

916
01:01:28.440 --> 01:01:31.159
And she was sitting there and she told me she

917
01:01:31.280 --> 01:01:34.199
was just surprised. She was amazed. She always had interest

918
01:01:34.239 --> 01:01:38.159
in it and never really thought that it was ever something.

919
01:01:38.400 --> 01:01:43.000
But she said when she heard me tell my encounter

920
01:01:43.239 --> 01:01:46.400
there in church, she knew that I was telling the truth,

921
01:01:46.760 --> 01:01:51.320
that that really happened. A lot of people you say

922
01:01:51.360 --> 01:01:54.400
stuff like this too, they're just not ready for it.

923
01:01:55.440 --> 01:01:59.000
You can tell that they don't want to. They think

924
01:01:59.039 --> 01:02:02.519
you're foolish whatever. You know, I don't really care now

925
01:02:02.559 --> 01:02:05.119
that I'm like sixty two years old. Now I don't

926
01:02:05.119 --> 01:02:08.119
give what anybody thinks this stuff happened to me. I

927
01:02:08.159 --> 01:02:11.239
don't care if you believe it or not. I really don't.

928
01:02:13.320 --> 01:02:15.960
So now I'm at that age where I can kind

929
01:02:16.000 --> 01:02:20.719
of talk about it in the right crowds. Yeah.

930
01:02:20.760 --> 01:02:25.360
Absolutely, Ye. How is your Was your sister pretty affected

931
01:02:25.920 --> 01:02:26.519
by all this?

932
01:02:28.599 --> 01:02:31.719
You know what? I talked to her a couple of

933
01:02:31.760 --> 01:02:36.360
years ago at Thanksgiving and we were talking about this

934
01:02:36.519 --> 01:02:40.559
subject and I said something to her and she goes,

935
01:02:41.599 --> 01:02:44.199
she goes well, you know I got screamed right there too,

936
01:02:44.679 --> 01:02:48.440
because she was telling us. That's what it was. She's

937
01:02:48.480 --> 01:02:52.039
telling somebody she got screamed at. And I'm like, hey, no,

938
01:02:52.239 --> 01:02:54.239
no you didn't. I got screwed. Was the one that

939
01:02:54.320 --> 01:02:57.639
got screamed at. What are you talking about? And she's like, no,

940
01:02:57.719 --> 01:02:59.519
I got screamed at too, And I said, well, you

941
01:02:59.559 --> 01:03:02.800
never told me about that, and she so I was

942
01:03:02.840 --> 01:03:05.000
I thought she was telling my story and I'm like,

943
01:03:05.000 --> 01:03:08.639
wait a minute, that's that happened to me. And she's like, no,

944
01:03:08.800 --> 01:03:11.280
it happened to me too, and I'm like, oh, well,

945
01:03:11.360 --> 01:03:13.519
you never told me. And so it was like all

946
01:03:13.559 --> 01:03:17.199
these years you didn't even say anything and I didn't

947
01:03:17.239 --> 01:03:22.239
know that she got screamed at too. That's crazy that

948
01:03:22.360 --> 01:03:27.400
she had a similar incident right there that I did

949
01:03:27.480 --> 01:03:28.320
in the same spot.

950
01:03:31.800 --> 01:03:35.400
That, yeah, that is that is interesting, not, I guess,

951
01:03:35.400 --> 01:03:40.440
not overly surprising, you know when you think, not at all.

952
01:03:42.320 --> 01:03:45.119
It just gave validation to like, after I said my

953
01:03:45.199 --> 01:03:47.320
story to other people that were in the room. That

954
01:03:47.760 --> 01:03:54.360
what validated. It's like if anybody thought I was fullishing that,

955
01:03:54.360 --> 01:03:57.960
that pretty much shot that away because she said something,

956
01:03:58.000 --> 01:04:00.559
you know, she was like no, that happened to me too.

957
01:04:01.400 --> 01:04:05.199
I was there. I mean, if you think about it,

958
01:04:05.280 --> 01:04:07.960
she was right on the other side of the wall, right,

959
01:04:08.960 --> 01:04:11.880
you know, she was there too. It happened to her too.

960
01:04:11.920 --> 01:04:13.039
It didn't just happen to.

961
01:04:12.920 --> 01:04:19.880
Me after this, did did you have? Did stuff continue

962
01:04:19.920 --> 01:04:23.079
to happen in the rest of your life or was

963
01:04:23.079 --> 01:04:26.800
this kind of the the you know main I guess

964
01:04:26.880 --> 01:04:29.519
you could say, like almost weird, weird thing and it's

965
01:04:29.559 --> 01:04:33.679
always kind of it's been there and you're always thinking

966
01:04:33.719 --> 01:04:34.480
about it.

967
01:04:35.599 --> 01:04:39.760
I wish, yeah, I wish it was the only thing

968
01:04:39.800 --> 01:04:43.079
to happen. And I think like, once this happens to you,

969
01:04:43.519 --> 01:04:48.840
something like that happens to you, and it's like, you know,

970
01:04:49.119 --> 01:04:51.119
it took me a while to go back in the woods.

971
01:04:51.800 --> 01:04:53.639
It took a while to go back on that mountain.

972
01:04:55.239 --> 01:04:58.639
It was like baby steps. And that's probably why I

973
01:04:58.679 --> 01:05:01.119
moved away, because I couldn't enjoy myself the way I

974
01:05:01.159 --> 01:05:08.039
did before. Well, I had a lot of other things

975
01:05:08.079 --> 01:05:11.000
happen because I didn't. I couldn't just stay away from

976
01:05:11.039 --> 01:05:13.840
the woods in the mountains. I love it too much.

977
01:05:15.039 --> 01:05:18.920
It didn't rob me of that, I did, you know,

978
01:05:19.280 --> 01:05:22.360
finally get over most of it, But so it's in

979
01:05:22.440 --> 01:05:25.079
my head when I go out there, you know, or

980
01:05:25.119 --> 01:05:27.119
even when I drive by a wooded area, I'm always

981
01:05:27.559 --> 01:05:32.280
it's always like it didn't look. You know you're gonna look.

982
01:05:33.320 --> 01:05:37.760
So it's not like I look for it. I just

983
01:05:38.239 --> 01:05:44.480
I'm aware of it. So when I see signs of

984
01:05:44.519 --> 01:05:52.400
it like tree breaks and stuff tracks or whatever. And

985
01:05:52.480 --> 01:05:57.079
I still still little things now, just little things. I mean,

986
01:05:57.159 --> 01:06:00.559
nothing is ever going to compare that. So it's all

987
01:06:00.599 --> 01:06:04.960
little things now. A couple of years ago, when I

988
01:06:05.000 --> 01:06:12.159
turned sixty, I went on a solo fishing adventure camping

989
01:06:12.519 --> 01:06:16.000
trip up the coast to northern California and to Oregon

990
01:06:17.119 --> 01:06:23.639
fishing for steelheading and Sam had a blast. It was

991
01:06:23.760 --> 01:06:28.480
just a great time. And on the way I went through,

992
01:06:29.679 --> 01:06:32.599
the way I went was through Willow Creek and all that,

993
01:06:32.639 --> 01:06:35.639
and before I left, my wife was like, where are

994
01:06:35.679 --> 01:06:38.960
you going that way? You need to stay away from that,

995
01:06:39.199 --> 01:06:41.360
You need to stay away from there, and I said, no,

996
01:06:41.480 --> 01:06:44.000
I want to. Something inside of me just want I

997
01:06:44.039 --> 01:06:47.039
need to go this way. And so of course I

998
01:06:47.079 --> 01:06:51.400
went through Willow Creek and down to from Willow Creek

999
01:06:51.440 --> 01:06:56.360
down the mountain there to Eureka, California, and then fished

1000
01:06:56.400 --> 01:07:00.000
and camped and hiked the trail systems and all that

1001
01:07:00.199 --> 01:07:03.360
on the coast, all the way up to all the

1002
01:07:03.360 --> 01:07:09.480
way up to Gold Beach Roade River, and I stopped

1003
01:07:09.519 --> 01:07:14.559
in the Redwoods in northern California, and that was what

1004
01:07:14.639 --> 01:07:18.239
a beautiful area. I stayed there for a week, and

1005
01:07:18.280 --> 01:07:20.360
then I spent the rest of my week going up

1006
01:07:20.360 --> 01:07:24.800
into Oregon from there. When I was in Oregon, I

1007
01:07:24.880 --> 01:07:28.800
went it was I wasn't I went fishing for the morning.

1008
01:07:28.840 --> 01:07:31.280
It was the afternoon, so I wasn't fishing at that time.

1009
01:07:32.360 --> 01:07:34.760
But in the campgrounds there was a trail that went

1010
01:07:34.840 --> 01:07:37.960
down to the coast, and I really loved that beach.

1011
01:07:38.280 --> 01:07:41.760
And I was in Brookings, Oregon. What a beautiful place.

1012
01:07:42.760 --> 01:07:44.400
And I called my wife from there and I said,

1013
01:07:44.760 --> 01:07:48.719
why why don't we live here? I want to live here?

1014
01:07:49.440 --> 01:07:52.280
And I didn't want to go home. It was such

1015
01:07:52.280 --> 01:07:56.400
a beautiful spot, and so I would I would. I

1016
01:07:56.440 --> 01:07:58.960
took a drive and I went up to the Rogue River.

1017
01:07:59.000 --> 01:08:01.199
From there, I just kept the campgrounds for like a

1018
01:08:01.239 --> 01:08:04.880
base camp, and I'd go out adventuring all day and

1019
01:08:05.000 --> 01:08:09.719
come back to my campsite at night. And so I

1020
01:08:09.800 --> 01:08:14.400
was on this trail, and I can't remember which because

1021
01:08:14.400 --> 01:08:17.840
I did a bunch of trails and it was during

1022
01:08:17.880 --> 01:08:24.760
the off season, and so it was in November, November,

1023
01:08:24.880 --> 01:08:29.439
late November, really, no like I wanted to early. That's right.

1024
01:08:30.319 --> 01:08:34.159
It's like mid November, and I was down on this

1025
01:08:35.000 --> 01:08:37.640
went down to this trail, popular trail, but it was

1026
01:08:37.760 --> 01:08:39.760
off season, like I said, so there wasn't a whole

1027
01:08:39.760 --> 01:08:41.920
lot of people there. There was more locals and there

1028
01:08:41.960 --> 01:08:45.560
were tourists at that time. So I got down to

1029
01:08:45.560 --> 01:08:47.319
the beach and it was a pretty good hike down

1030
01:08:47.359 --> 01:08:52.319
to the beach, and there was probably maybe six people

1031
01:08:52.359 --> 01:08:56.520
down there, a few couples and one person had a dog,

1032
01:08:57.600 --> 01:09:00.000
and I was down there just kind of hanging out,

1033
01:09:00.520 --> 01:09:03.119
and everybody one by one kind of took off and

1034
01:09:03.119 --> 01:09:06.399
went back up to the parking lot and left, and

1035
01:09:06.399 --> 01:09:10.680
then it was then it was just me and there

1036
01:09:10.680 --> 01:09:13.600
was another couple down there with their dog, and then

1037
01:09:13.640 --> 01:09:16.439
they turned around they went up the trail and they

1038
01:09:16.439 --> 01:09:19.119
were hiking up the trail, and when they got to

1039
01:09:19.159 --> 01:09:21.880
the top, I started hiking back up because there's a

1040
01:09:21.880 --> 01:09:26.359
big bluff right there and there's a switchback trail that

1041
01:09:26.399 --> 01:09:30.039
you have to hike down and so you get up

1042
01:09:30.079 --> 01:09:33.279
to this the top of the bluff. There's a bench

1043
01:09:33.399 --> 01:09:35.600
right there, so you could ask somebody if you didn't

1044
01:09:35.600 --> 01:09:37.239
want to hike down there. You could sit on the

1045
01:09:37.279 --> 01:09:40.479
bench and look out over the ocean, which was beautiful.

1046
01:09:41.079 --> 01:09:43.520
And so by the time I got up to that bench,

1047
01:09:43.920 --> 01:09:46.359
I was I'm sixty years old, and now I'm ready

1048
01:09:46.399 --> 01:09:48.279
for a break. So I sit down on the bench

1049
01:09:48.399 --> 01:09:50.000
and I'm like, good, I'll just sit here and let

1050
01:09:50.079 --> 01:09:52.800
these people go get in their car and leave, and

1051
01:09:52.840 --> 01:09:56.520
I'll be here by myself. Somebody else showed up, but

1052
01:09:57.319 --> 01:10:00.720
that's how it worked out. I sat there for a

1053
01:10:00.760 --> 01:10:04.000
pretty good while, taking it all in and looking at

1054
01:10:04.039 --> 01:10:10.079
the ocean and just relaxing. And all of a sudden

1055
01:10:10.119 --> 01:10:13.319
I hear this wrestling in the bushes, and I turned

1056
01:10:13.319 --> 01:10:15.479
and I'm looking down and it's like towards the area

1057
01:10:15.520 --> 01:10:18.760
I need to walk, and there's here we are again,

1058
01:10:18.880 --> 01:10:22.119
these hedgerows and blackberries. If you have ever been on

1059
01:10:22.159 --> 01:10:24.960
the Oregon Washington coast, you're going to run into that stuff.

1060
01:10:25.479 --> 01:10:28.600
And so on each side of the trail there's blackberries

1061
01:10:28.920 --> 01:10:31.039
like a wall on each side of this trail. You're

1062
01:10:31.079 --> 01:10:33.600
not going off the trail you're going straight down that

1063
01:10:33.680 --> 01:10:37.520
trail back to the parking lot. And in the bushes,

1064
01:10:37.560 --> 01:10:42.279
I hear this wrestling around, like wrestling and animal noises like,

1065
01:10:44.239 --> 01:10:47.760
and they're wrestling in the bushes. And then I hearing this, right,

1066
01:10:48.960 --> 01:10:51.319
I'm like, what the hell is this? And I'm like,

1067
01:10:52.000 --> 01:10:55.000
no way. And I'm sitting there on this bench and

1068
01:10:55.039 --> 01:11:00.840
I hear this some mumbling talk and I'm like, oh,

1069
01:11:00.920 --> 01:11:04.079
I can't kind of make it out. It's a language,

1070
01:11:04.159 --> 01:11:10.079
but I can't understand what they're saying. I can't understand

1071
01:11:10.159 --> 01:11:14.560
what they're saying. I'm like, I'm just sitting there intensely

1072
01:11:14.640 --> 01:11:18.720
looking or listening and looking over where the bushes where,

1073
01:11:18.720 --> 01:11:21.840
and the bushes stopped, and I'm like, what's going on here?

1074
01:11:21.880 --> 01:11:24.800
I'm thinking then now my heart's just pounding out of

1075
01:11:24.800 --> 01:11:27.319
my chest. I'm like sitting there and this isn't happening

1076
01:11:27.399 --> 01:11:31.399
really again, here we go. And so I hear this

1077
01:11:31.479 --> 01:11:37.199
mumbly voice, gravely mumbly voice, and I'm like, I'm trying

1078
01:11:37.239 --> 01:11:43.319
to intensely trying to follow what it's saying. It's almost

1079
01:11:43.359 --> 01:11:48.920
like a parent scolding its child, telling it to stop. Stop.

1080
01:11:49.960 --> 01:11:56.760
And eventually, you know, this is something that you started

1081
01:11:56.800 --> 01:12:02.880
talking about on a podcast with somebody else that kind

1082
01:12:02.880 --> 01:12:06.119
of triggered this one for me to send to you.

1083
01:12:06.840 --> 01:12:08.359
Do you remember me sending.

1084
01:12:08.119 --> 01:12:10.239
You that, Yes, I believe I do.

1085
01:12:10.600 --> 01:12:18.880
Yeah. So I'm like going, what is this voice? What

1086
01:12:19.039 --> 01:12:21.159
is this language? And I'm trying to figure it out,

1087
01:12:21.720 --> 01:12:24.399
and Jeremiah, I don't know how it is that I

1088
01:12:24.439 --> 01:12:30.520
could actually start understanding what this voice was saying. I don't,

1089
01:12:30.680 --> 01:12:35.000
I don't. It was almost like a telepathy, like if

1090
01:12:35.000 --> 01:12:37.800
somebody's speaking in tongues to you and you're the interpreter

1091
01:12:37.920 --> 01:12:40.600
and you can understand what they're saying, but nobody else can.

1092
01:12:41.239 --> 01:12:47.159
Mm hm. That's what it was. That's what was going down.

1093
01:12:47.199 --> 01:12:50.359
And I'm like hearing this voice, and it sounded like, hey,

1094
01:12:51.560 --> 01:12:54.520
you two, stop messing around. Your mom and I are

1095
01:12:54.560 --> 01:12:56.760
trying to get some rest. We like it here, and

1096
01:12:56.800 --> 01:13:00.720
if we don't, if and if you, if we get caught,

1097
01:13:01.880 --> 01:13:05.439
we're gonna have to move. This is what I'm hear

1098
01:13:05.520 --> 01:13:11.319
in Jeremiah, that's always say it, And we don't want

1099
01:13:11.319 --> 01:13:15.560
to move. Now, take a little nap, get some rass,

1100
01:13:15.600 --> 01:13:17.920
be quiet, and later on we'll go down to the

1101
01:13:17.920 --> 01:13:24.439
beach and get some clams and I'm just sitting there.

1102
01:13:25.560 --> 01:13:31.079
I'm like, gulp, okay, I'm being quiet. I'll be quiet.

1103
01:13:33.439 --> 01:13:36.680
And you know what's funny is I didn't pull my

1104
01:13:36.760 --> 01:13:40.960
phone out. I didn't push record. I didn't do anything

1105
01:13:41.079 --> 01:13:43.520
like that. That was the furthest thing from my mind.

1106
01:13:43.920 --> 01:13:46.279
Even though before I left, I thought, hey, I'm going

1107
01:13:46.359 --> 01:13:49.119
to set up my camp recorder or my recorder on

1108
01:13:49.199 --> 01:13:51.279
my phone said when I open it up, it's right

1109
01:13:51.319 --> 01:13:53.880
there and I can just push record. None of that

1110
01:13:53.920 --> 01:13:59.560
even happened. I didn't have time. But I got up

1111
01:13:59.680 --> 01:14:01.760
after a few minutes. I'm like, just sitting there waiting

1112
01:14:01.800 --> 01:14:05.600
to calm down, calm down, and you know, my blood

1113
01:14:05.600 --> 01:14:09.720
pressure is probably through the roof. So I get up

1114
01:14:09.800 --> 01:14:12.119
and I'm like okay, and I said it right out loud.

1115
01:14:12.159 --> 01:14:14.239
I said, okay, I'm going to be on my way.

1116
01:14:14.279 --> 01:14:18.000
Your secret's safe with me. And I walked down the

1117
01:14:18.039 --> 01:14:22.079
trail and I got my truck and I left. I

1118
01:14:22.319 --> 01:14:28.640
left that left it at that? Now? Is that I mean?

1119
01:14:29.039 --> 01:14:32.119
And I'm thinking, well, you know, you know when you know, right.

1120
01:14:32.520 --> 01:14:35.920
But I'm thinking, also, okay, well maybe it was some

1121
01:14:35.960 --> 01:14:40.079
homeless people. Okay, okay, it could be I didn't see

1122
01:14:40.079 --> 01:14:43.000
anybody all I heard, we were voices, that was it,

1123
01:14:43.479 --> 01:14:47.880
but somehow I interpreted but the thing was saying it

1124
01:14:48.000 --> 01:14:51.920
was sounded like Scooby Doo talk, but I understood what

1125
01:14:51.960 --> 01:14:52.520
it was saying.

1126
01:14:57.359 --> 01:15:03.560
I've also experienced something similar or in Iowa where it's

1127
01:15:03.600 --> 01:15:07.439
like but the difference is I wasn't able to interpret it.

1128
01:15:07.439 --> 01:15:10.439
But it was like it's you can hear something and

1129
01:15:10.479 --> 01:15:14.159
it's like mumbling, but you just can't. It's like right

1130
01:15:14.199 --> 01:15:16.520
on the edge of your understanding and it is the

1131
01:15:16.600 --> 01:15:21.520
weirdest thing that you've ever experienced. Yeah, but it's just

1132
01:15:22.039 --> 01:15:25.880
it's so interesting that you know you're able to interpret

1133
01:15:25.920 --> 01:15:30.119
it somehow, and it's just it's very very cool, big

1134
01:15:30.159 --> 01:15:32.720
for society. Who will be right back after these messages.

1135
01:15:51.319 --> 01:15:53.720
I didn't even want to share that, but I needed

1136
01:15:53.800 --> 01:15:57.720
to because it was something that's in my been with

1137
01:15:57.760 --> 01:16:00.920
me for a couple of years now. It's like, who

1138
01:16:00.960 --> 01:16:04.279
do you talk to about something like that? You can't

1139
01:16:04.319 --> 01:16:08.239
just bring it up. Hey, you're in a conversation with somebody, right,

1140
01:16:09.720 --> 01:16:14.159
I'm not going to bring that up. But that's that's

1141
01:16:14.239 --> 01:16:21.479
it's just something crazy. You don't have to eric. You

1142
01:16:21.560 --> 01:16:25.279
don't feel like you know, it's a good for everybody

1143
01:16:25.279 --> 01:16:27.039
to hear. No, I think I.

1144
01:16:27.079 --> 01:16:30.960
Think it's important because I think there's some people where

1145
01:16:31.159 --> 01:16:37.800
they are more attuned to things and they you know,

1146
01:16:37.840 --> 01:16:41.680
they're just experiencing things like this through through their life

1147
01:16:41.880 --> 01:16:46.319
and they're just their maybe eyes ears are open to

1148
01:16:46.399 --> 01:16:50.840
things in ways that other people are just not even

1149
01:16:51.359 --> 01:16:55.640
tuned into, you know. So I don't think it's it's crazy,

1150
01:16:56.039 --> 01:16:56.239
you know.

1151
01:17:00.880 --> 01:17:03.119
I mean I spend a lot of time when I

1152
01:17:03.239 --> 01:17:06.920
go out. When I go out and like on my

1153
01:17:07.000 --> 01:17:11.359
little adventures every year, I do this all by myself.

1154
01:17:11.560 --> 01:17:14.880
I don't take anybody with me. I used to take

1155
01:17:14.920 --> 01:17:18.279
my wife, and she's disabled now she can't really get

1156
01:17:18.279 --> 01:17:20.079
out and do the stuff that we used to. But

1157
01:17:20.640 --> 01:17:22.800
she doesn't want my you know, she wants me to

1158
01:17:22.840 --> 01:17:24.920
still go out and do what I love to do.

1159
01:17:25.600 --> 01:17:28.319
And so I go and I'll take off for a

1160
01:17:28.359 --> 01:17:32.640
week or two and come back. What was it last

1161
01:17:32.760 --> 01:17:38.439
year or the year before we went. I took her

1162
01:17:38.479 --> 01:17:44.359
on this trip and we rented a cabin and that's

1163
01:17:44.399 --> 01:17:46.600
the only reason why she could she could go because

1164
01:17:46.600 --> 01:17:48.840
I usually take my either my van or I take

1165
01:17:48.960 --> 01:17:52.279
I have a tepee tent. It's a hot tent. I

1166
01:17:52.279 --> 01:17:54.600
have a little stove in it and stuff is pretty cool.

1167
01:17:56.079 --> 01:17:59.119
That's when I took up the coast and when I

1168
01:17:59.199 --> 01:18:01.880
go just like up in northern California, I took my

1169
01:18:02.039 --> 01:18:05.039
day and I have a conversion van I can take.

1170
01:18:05.600 --> 01:18:10.119
It was my dad's and I inherited it and fixed

1171
01:18:10.119 --> 01:18:14.479
it up for myself. But this trip that we went

1172
01:18:14.600 --> 01:18:17.520
up on, I rented a cabin so that she could

1173
01:18:17.560 --> 01:18:23.279
be comfortable. And on the way back from this area,

1174
01:18:23.359 --> 01:18:25.680
it took her to a waterfall that she didn't have

1175
01:18:25.720 --> 01:18:27.520
to hike to and we could just drive up to.

1176
01:18:28.479 --> 01:18:30.680
That's my one of my favorite things to do is

1177
01:18:30.760 --> 01:18:37.000
hiked to these waterfalls and because they're really neat. So

1178
01:18:37.199 --> 01:18:40.479
we went to this waterfall and on our way back,

1179
01:18:40.520 --> 01:18:42.560
it was getting kind of late. It was about dusk.

1180
01:18:42.640 --> 01:18:47.079
But I'm me being a fisherman angler, I'm like always

1181
01:18:47.079 --> 01:18:50.319
looking out at the like we're drive along this creek

1182
01:18:51.119 --> 01:18:54.359
and that's where we where we had the cabin, and

1183
01:18:54.399 --> 01:18:56.279
I fished that creek and had a lot of luck.

1184
01:18:56.319 --> 01:18:59.359
So I went back the next year. But we're driving

1185
01:18:59.439 --> 01:19:02.640
past this campground. I was going over the bridge. I

1186
01:19:02.720 --> 01:19:10.199
was looking off to the right or the left, and

1187
01:19:10.319 --> 01:19:12.640
I was looking at a fishing hole. I'm like, oh, man,

1188
01:19:12.640 --> 01:19:14.800
that looks like a good fishing hole right there. And right

1189
01:19:14.840 --> 01:19:17.960
as I'm looking at it, she goes, hey, look at this.

1190
01:19:18.079 --> 01:19:19.800
What And I'm like I turned my head and I

1191
01:19:20.439 --> 01:19:24.720
look at the like the road, and she goes, you're

1192
01:19:24.760 --> 01:19:26.960
not complained what I just seen. I'm like, what what

1193
01:19:27.079 --> 01:19:30.760
did you see? And I said, you know, there's deer

1194
01:19:31.000 --> 01:19:33.079
and elk and stuff in this area. She goes, well,

1195
01:19:33.119 --> 01:19:34.720
that wasn't a deer or an elk. I just seen

1196
01:19:34.760 --> 01:19:37.840
a sasquatch cross the road. I'm like, no, way you did.

1197
01:19:37.920 --> 01:19:39.880
And I'm like, I'm not going to say she didn't.

1198
01:19:39.920 --> 01:19:42.640
I didn't see it. She did, but she said she didn't.

1199
01:19:42.960 --> 01:19:46.000
I believe her because we're right in that area. We're

1200
01:19:46.039 --> 01:19:52.399
in the lass And National Park. And so I was like, wow,

1201
01:19:52.479 --> 01:19:56.279
that's so cool, and she was really excited, and I thought, wow,

1202
01:19:56.359 --> 01:19:59.119
that's really neat that she had an experience like that.

1203
01:20:00.039 --> 01:20:02.159
And so the next year we went back to the

1204
01:20:02.199 --> 01:20:04.720
count and I was just talking to her about it,

1205
01:20:04.760 --> 01:20:07.159
like last night. They said, hey, do you remember this?

1206
01:20:07.319 --> 01:20:09.560
And she goes, oh, yeah, yeah, I do remember that.

1207
01:20:09.560 --> 01:20:12.319
I'm like, how could you not forget that? She goes

1208
01:20:12.359 --> 01:20:14.640
I can't believe I forgot about that until you just know.

1209
01:20:14.720 --> 01:20:18.239
When you mentioned that, I said, well, because the next year,

1210
01:20:18.399 --> 01:20:21.920
I went by myself, and it was I always go

1211
01:20:22.000 --> 01:20:24.920
in the off season because I don't like being around people.

1212
01:20:25.359 --> 01:20:28.760
If I'm an efficient spot and one person shows up,

1213
01:20:29.119 --> 01:20:31.800
I really and I'm done, I pack up my stuff

1214
01:20:31.800 --> 01:20:35.640
and I go, I leave, and even if there's one

1215
01:20:35.680 --> 01:20:39.359
person there. So when I went this time, and I

1216
01:20:39.520 --> 01:20:43.319
go in like November, and no, wait a minute, no

1217
01:20:43.399 --> 01:20:47.680
it was. I can't say it was November, it was.

1218
01:20:50.960 --> 01:20:56.800
It was the weekend of Memorial weekend or Labor Day weekend,

1219
01:20:57.000 --> 01:20:58.800
one of the two. I always get those next up.

1220
01:20:59.640 --> 01:21:02.720
But it was hot because I didn't have a fire.

1221
01:21:03.479 --> 01:21:05.600
But when I got to the campground right there, I

1222
01:21:05.640 --> 01:21:10.239
went straight to that campground, and my life thinks I'm

1223
01:21:10.239 --> 01:21:12.239
crazy because I'm just going to go. I'm going there.

1224
01:21:12.359 --> 01:21:16.239
I'm going to go there first, of course. And so

1225
01:21:16.319 --> 01:21:19.159
I go to that campground and there's only one other

1226
01:21:19.239 --> 01:21:22.800
person in the campground and I passed them up, wave

1227
01:21:22.920 --> 01:21:25.399
to him, went and got my site, and I picked

1228
01:21:25.399 --> 01:21:27.640
the one way in the back in the corner by

1229
01:21:27.640 --> 01:21:32.000
the woods, and I went down to the creek and fished,

1230
01:21:32.079 --> 01:21:34.079
got a couple of nice fish, but I had hardly

1231
01:21:34.119 --> 01:21:36.760
ever keep them unless I'm going to eat them. And

1232
01:21:36.840 --> 01:21:40.800
I went back to the camp and that night I

1233
01:21:40.840 --> 01:21:43.600
didn't have a fire because it was warm out anyway,

1234
01:21:44.039 --> 01:21:46.720
and I thought, I'm just gonna sit here. And there's

1235
01:21:46.720 --> 01:21:49.399
nobody else here except for that person way up the road,

1236
01:21:50.279 --> 01:21:53.760
but I'm gonna sit here. I set my chair right

1237
01:21:53.840 --> 01:21:57.439
up against this tree, and I'm just gonna sit here.

1238
01:21:57.479 --> 01:21:59.239
I'm going to smoke a cigar and drink a couple

1239
01:21:59.239 --> 01:22:03.960
of beer and just be really quiet and see what happens.

1240
01:22:04.199 --> 01:22:05.920
And I let the sun go down and I just

1241
01:22:05.960 --> 01:22:09.920
sat there and waited and everything there was, you know, then,

1242
01:22:10.479 --> 01:22:13.920
so the daytime animals are going to bed while the

1243
01:22:14.039 --> 01:22:17.680
nighttime creatures are waking up and stuff, and I just

1244
01:22:17.720 --> 01:22:22.039
wanted to see what happened. And nothing happened, and I'm like,

1245
01:22:22.119 --> 01:22:25.439
all right, Well, I went to bed and it was

1246
01:22:25.600 --> 01:22:28.039
it was hot, so I let the van door open

1247
01:22:28.399 --> 01:22:30.479
in the back of the van opened and stuff, and

1248
01:22:30.560 --> 01:22:32.920
I kind of got a little creeped out, and I thought, well,

1249
01:22:32.920 --> 01:22:35.319
I better close out because something's just kind of along

1250
01:22:35.399 --> 01:22:38.079
and pulled me by the ankles and she ripped my

1251
01:22:38.119 --> 01:22:40.560
ass right out of that van. So I closed the

1252
01:22:40.640 --> 01:22:44.279
doors and I left the one little wing window open

1253
01:22:44.399 --> 01:22:47.560
right next to my face where I was sleeping at night,

1254
01:22:47.840 --> 01:22:51.560
so I could have fresh air. And it was probably

1255
01:22:51.640 --> 01:22:55.800
about two o'clock in the morning. Something come through that

1256
01:22:55.880 --> 01:23:02.720
camp and it was making them weirdess nose and hey,

1257
01:23:02.760 --> 01:23:05.319
like I said, I've been up and around. I've been

1258
01:23:05.359 --> 01:23:10.800
in Alaska, I've been in Oregon, Washington, California, and I've

1259
01:23:10.800 --> 01:23:15.399
heard animals. I've heard you know what cougar sound like, bobcat,

1260
01:23:17.079 --> 01:23:21.960
fox and all that, and you know, they each have

1261
01:23:22.039 --> 01:23:25.800
their own sounds. Even beer or bear will make a

1262
01:23:25.800 --> 01:23:30.000
little you know, grunting noise or whatever, popping their jaws

1263
01:23:30.039 --> 01:23:33.159
and stuff like that. But this thing come through the

1264
01:23:33.199 --> 01:23:34.920
camp and it woke me up, and I was like,

1265
01:23:35.000 --> 01:23:37.680
what is that? And it was like doing this really

1266
01:23:37.760 --> 01:23:41.239
weird yellow coming through the camp and walked right through

1267
01:23:41.279 --> 01:23:45.279
the camp campgrounds and went right past my van and

1268
01:23:45.319 --> 01:23:48.439
went into the trees back there, and I was like, oh,

1269
01:23:48.720 --> 01:23:51.720
or what that was? That was weird? And then I

1270
01:23:51.880 --> 01:23:54.960
just sat there for a few minutes and listened for

1271
01:23:55.000 --> 01:23:57.840
anything else that happen, and close that little window and

1272
01:23:58.000 --> 01:24:00.520
went right back to sleep. That was another little thing

1273
01:24:00.600 --> 01:24:03.239
that happened, and it's just one of those things. You

1274
01:24:03.279 --> 01:24:08.000
don't know what it was, but it was something. And

1275
01:24:08.039 --> 01:24:12.399
so just little things happen now that that make you wonder,

1276
01:24:12.520 --> 01:24:15.079
make you think there's There was a time when I

1277
01:24:15.119 --> 01:24:19.479
was up in Alaska and I had two incidences up there.

1278
01:24:22.439 --> 01:24:25.560
One was I had a buddy of mine that we'd

1279
01:24:25.560 --> 01:24:30.199
always go fishing together, and so on the weekends, he

1280
01:24:30.279 --> 01:24:34.000
had a raft. It was a four person raft, well

1281
01:24:34.159 --> 01:24:36.039
actually five, because he'd sit in the middle and there

1282
01:24:36.079 --> 01:24:39.439
was chairs on each end of the raft, and we

1283
01:24:39.640 --> 01:24:42.520
had another guy with us this time. It used to

1284
01:24:43.039 --> 01:24:45.239
it would always used to usually just be him and

1285
01:24:45.279 --> 01:24:47.479
I and we could use the other chairs to put

1286
01:24:47.479 --> 01:24:51.199
all our gear on, and we would stop and fish

1287
01:24:51.239 --> 01:24:54.920
these little sandbars and stuff, and nobody's around because we'd

1288
01:24:54.920 --> 01:24:58.079
put in way up up the river and drift the

1289
01:24:58.199 --> 01:25:02.199
rivers down. Everybody be combat fishing down at the other end,

1290
01:25:02.680 --> 01:25:05.199
down by the parking lot and stuff. Nobody's ever up

1291
01:25:05.239 --> 01:25:10.439
in the other areas except unless you have a drift

1292
01:25:10.479 --> 01:25:16.000
boat or something. And we're so we drift down and stuff,

1293
01:25:16.039 --> 01:25:19.079
and it's kind of cool because you can sit fish

1294
01:25:19.199 --> 01:25:21.720
you can see all the fish pooling up in areas

1295
01:25:21.880 --> 01:25:25.079
salmon and stuff, and catch fish right on the sandbars

1296
01:25:25.119 --> 01:25:29.119
and stuff. And my buddy and I would mess around

1297
01:25:29.159 --> 01:25:31.399
with each other, you know, just do guy stuff, and

1298
01:25:32.239 --> 01:25:34.920
we stand like thirty forty feet apart from each other.

1299
01:25:34.960 --> 01:25:36.920
And then when the other guy isn't lucky, you pick

1300
01:25:37.000 --> 01:25:38.800
up a rock and throw it in the bushes behind

1301
01:25:38.840 --> 01:25:41.960
him right just to mess with their head. You know,

1302
01:25:42.000 --> 01:25:44.960
I'm going to turn around and just hey, you're in

1303
01:25:44.960 --> 01:25:49.439
a bear country, you're like Risly country. So you're just

1304
01:25:49.520 --> 01:25:55.680
messing with each other. That great. So so we just

1305
01:25:55.960 --> 01:25:59.159
you know, mess with each other, and we'd always do it.

1306
01:25:59.199 --> 01:26:02.520
And then one day we're cruising along or we're just

1307
01:26:02.560 --> 01:26:05.359
standing there fishing, and had this other guy with us,

1308
01:26:05.399 --> 01:26:07.680
and he was kind of a knucklehead. I don't know

1309
01:26:07.720 --> 01:26:10.720
what that guy's deal was. He wasn't even fishing really,

1310
01:26:11.319 --> 01:26:14.239
and he was just running around like exploring and stuff.

1311
01:26:14.520 --> 01:26:17.239
Kind of a weird guy. And Mark and I were

1312
01:26:17.279 --> 01:26:19.880
standing there, and my buddy were standing there, you know,

1313
01:26:20.039 --> 01:26:22.680
doing the same old thing we normally, you know, but

1314
01:26:22.840 --> 01:26:25.279
this time we're standing about thirty feet from each other.

1315
01:26:25.880 --> 01:26:28.920
We turn out look at each other like fishing and

1316
01:26:29.239 --> 01:26:31.560
kind of you know, having good time, and all of

1317
01:26:31.560 --> 01:26:34.560
a sudden, a rock and this other guy, he's standing

1318
01:26:34.560 --> 01:26:36.880
over by the boat. All of a sudden, this rock

1319
01:26:36.920 --> 01:26:41.279
about softball sized rock landing landed right in between us,

1320
01:26:41.680 --> 01:26:45.439
just blow plump, right on the sandbar, ran in between us,

1321
01:26:45.760 --> 01:26:48.039
and we looked at each other and didn't even say

1322
01:26:48.079 --> 01:26:53.359
a word, just started reeling, our reeling our lines in Okay,

1323
01:26:53.439 --> 01:26:54.479
it's time for us to go.

1324
01:26:56.199 --> 01:26:58.560
Was that the same size of rock you guys were

1325
01:26:58.560 --> 01:26:59.479
throwing at each other.

1326
01:27:00.800 --> 01:27:03.680
Yeah, similar, No, it was a little bigger. It's a

1327
01:27:03.680 --> 01:27:06.119
little bigger. But but I mean, I mean we just

1328
01:27:06.159 --> 01:27:08.199
pick up a stone, a little stone, and posset in

1329
01:27:08.279 --> 01:27:10.800
the bushes to make a noise behind somebody. But no,

1330
01:27:10.920 --> 01:27:14.079
this this rock come lobbing over the bushes and landed

1331
01:27:14.159 --> 01:27:17.319
right in between us. There's nobody in the other side

1332
01:27:17.359 --> 01:27:21.319
of them bushes. And I'll tell you what, Bears don't

1333
01:27:21.319 --> 01:27:26.000
have thumbs. They can't throw rocks. They might kick up

1334
01:27:26.000 --> 01:27:28.439
a rock when they're like running or something, but they're

1335
01:27:28.479 --> 01:27:29.720
not going to pick up a rock and throw it

1336
01:27:29.720 --> 01:27:33.600
at you. So we're like, okay, we're out of here,

1337
01:27:33.640 --> 01:27:35.880
and we're just like we just start rolling our stuff

1338
01:27:35.960 --> 01:27:39.239
up right and throwing our rods in the raft and stuff.

1339
01:27:39.239 --> 01:27:42.119
And this guy, this knucklehead, goes running off and in

1340
01:27:42.199 --> 01:27:43.800
the bushes and he goes, I gotta go see what

1341
01:27:43.880 --> 01:27:47.439
through that rock. He goes down this between the and

1342
01:27:49.039 --> 01:27:51.479
the bushes and stuff, and I'm like, dude, you need

1343
01:27:51.479 --> 01:27:53.239
to get out of there. And he goes, is there

1344
01:27:53.359 --> 01:27:55.840
something back or something through that rock? I gotta go see?

1345
01:27:57.039 --> 01:27:59.399
Oh man, some Mark and I are runners down there,

1346
01:27:59.439 --> 01:28:01.960
going ok, dude. We walk over there to the trail

1347
01:28:02.039 --> 01:28:06.439
where he had ran into and there's a track right there.

1348
01:28:07.079 --> 01:28:11.239
That's Mark Hauz, my buddy Mark. He's got so ie

1349
01:28:11.279 --> 01:28:14.840
thirteen waiter boots on. He puts both his feet in

1350
01:28:14.920 --> 01:28:18.560
this thing. He's still got room on each end inside

1351
01:28:18.560 --> 01:28:22.840
the side as one single track, and I'm like, oh man,

1352
01:28:22.920 --> 01:28:25.199
this thing's huge. He goes, do you think it's what

1353
01:28:25.279 --> 01:28:27.520
I'm thinking it is? And I'm like, I know it is.

1354
01:28:29.239 --> 01:28:33.079
And so I start looking about about eight feet away

1355
01:28:33.119 --> 01:28:35.800
there's another track. I'm like, well, this is his stride

1356
01:28:35.880 --> 01:28:38.640
right here, and there's another track right there, and I'm like, dude,

1357
01:28:38.640 --> 01:28:40.760
we got to get out of here. This guy's about

1358
01:28:40.760 --> 01:28:43.600
ready to die back there and he comes popping out

1359
01:28:43.600 --> 01:28:46.800
of the bushes and he goes, something's really stinky. Back,

1360
01:28:46.800 --> 01:28:49.239
there's something steaks. I'm like, it's probably a moose killed man,

1361
01:28:49.279 --> 01:28:53.000
and there's probably a bear around real close. You're about

1362
01:28:53.039 --> 01:28:56.079
ready to be killed too. We both grabbed him and

1363
01:28:56.159 --> 01:28:58.199
threw him in the raft and we tore ass out

1364
01:28:58.279 --> 01:29:03.439
of there. This this little spot's over with. We're going

1365
01:29:03.520 --> 01:29:06.239
to go down the river a little way as it stopped.

1366
01:29:06.319 --> 01:29:08.319
And that's what we did. We just went to another spot.

1367
01:29:08.479 --> 01:29:10.880
There's always areas you get into where you just go

1368
01:29:12.039 --> 01:29:14.039
hair on your back of your neck stand up.

1369
01:29:16.119 --> 01:29:20.319
Yeah, I've I'm trying to think if I've if I've

1370
01:29:20.359 --> 01:29:24.560
ever experienced that, I've experienced this, the super quiet of

1371
01:29:24.600 --> 01:29:29.920
an area before. I have yet to experience the whole

1372
01:29:29.960 --> 01:29:33.960
hair on the back of the next thing. Oh yeah,

1373
01:29:34.000 --> 01:29:37.159
I think that'll that'll happen eventually if I keep going

1374
01:29:37.239 --> 01:29:40.880
on out though to some certain areas.

1375
01:29:40.640 --> 01:29:44.239
You went up to. You went up to uh Oregon, right.

1376
01:29:44.119 --> 01:29:47.039
Yeah, yeah, I went up and just just this last July,

1377
01:29:47.319 --> 01:29:52.079
so I'll be going up there in a few months again,

1378
01:29:52.680 --> 01:29:56.760
which will be hopefully another great time. Do you find

1379
01:29:56.800 --> 01:30:01.079
yourself trying to have a similar experience like you did

1380
01:30:01.119 --> 01:30:04.439
when you were younger, or to have some sort of

1381
01:30:04.800 --> 01:30:06.079
connection again.

1382
01:30:06.800 --> 01:30:12.960
Not really not not, not like that face to face encounter.

1383
01:30:14.199 --> 01:30:16.399
I don't. I wouldn't wish that on anyone. Now people

1384
01:30:16.439 --> 01:30:19.279
go out thinking, no, I will, I'd love to see one. Well,

1385
01:30:19.720 --> 01:30:21.640
you know what, you don't really want to see one.

1386
01:30:22.199 --> 01:30:27.199
I mean, don't be careful what you wish for, man, exactly,

1387
01:30:29.520 --> 01:30:38.800
because these things aren't your friends, really not. They're they're

1388
01:30:39.600 --> 01:30:44.560
they're a wild creature. They'll eat you. I think a

1389
01:30:44.560 --> 01:30:49.039
lot of the four to one one missing thing has

1390
01:30:49.520 --> 01:30:52.039
some of those things. So are some of those missing

1391
01:30:52.159 --> 01:30:54.880
or from these things? Man, I'm sure of it. I

1392
01:30:54.880 --> 01:30:57.439
don't know why that thing that outside my house didn't

1393
01:30:57.439 --> 01:31:02.640
just snatch me up take take me with him. I mean,

1394
01:31:02.640 --> 01:31:06.439
it had every opportunity. I wouldn't want. I wouldn't wish

1395
01:31:06.479 --> 01:31:10.399
that on anyone, anybody to see one. I mean, hey,

1396
01:31:10.439 --> 01:31:12.920
you know what I'd like to see one? Sure? Another

1397
01:31:13.039 --> 01:31:16.000
one that safely in my truck and it crossing the

1398
01:31:16.039 --> 01:31:18.079
road in front of me, just like my wife did.

1399
01:31:18.640 --> 01:31:22.600
That's fine, we're a little b nine thing. Like I've

1400
01:31:22.600 --> 01:31:26.119
heard some voices. Maybe it was a sasquatch. Maybe it wasn't.

1401
01:31:26.560 --> 01:31:30.479
It was a family, And if it was, that's fine,

1402
01:31:31.119 --> 01:31:35.920
because it didn't nothing scary happened. But if it wasn't,

1403
01:31:36.000 --> 01:31:42.279
then all right, cool, no problem. But when you know, you.

1404
01:31:42.279 --> 01:31:50.279
Know exactly, it's a thing where people, I don't think

1405
01:31:50.279 --> 01:31:53.199
everyone realizes that. When you start to get into it,

1406
01:31:53.199 --> 01:31:57.159
it does start to affect your life. You start to

1407
01:31:58.359 --> 01:32:01.279
you can experience other stuff too, which is it's almost

1408
01:32:01.279 --> 01:32:03.439
like stuff needs to come with a warning label.

1409
01:32:05.880 --> 01:32:08.159
You know, yeah, really something like that.

1410
01:32:08.279 --> 01:32:11.199
I don't know, maybe not, but not everyone gets that.

1411
01:32:11.319 --> 01:32:15.159
They're like, oh yeah, bigfoots. Bigfoots a fun deal. And

1412
01:32:15.199 --> 01:32:18.520
then I don't know it just you start to when

1413
01:32:18.560 --> 01:32:20.279
you talk to people a lot, you start to see

1414
01:32:20.399 --> 01:32:25.720
different things that are you know, they almost they tend

1415
01:32:25.760 --> 01:32:28.800
to pop up and you're like, why do these keep

1416
01:32:28.800 --> 01:32:30.720
popping up? For for everyone?

1417
01:32:30.960 --> 01:32:31.239
You know?

1418
01:32:31.359 --> 01:32:34.840
It's yeah, I think there's maybe more to it, but

1419
01:32:35.039 --> 01:32:37.920
who knows what we will We'll figure out eventually with

1420
01:32:38.000 --> 01:32:38.840
all this, you know.

1421
01:32:40.560 --> 01:32:43.720
So, I mean I still see stuff. I don't look

1422
01:32:43.800 --> 01:32:46.600
for it, but I'm aware of it more because I

1423
01:32:46.720 --> 01:32:51.119
just see tree breaks and some tracks and stuff like that.

1424
01:32:51.159 --> 01:32:54.920
I don't I'm not out there casting tracks and taking

1425
01:32:54.960 --> 01:32:58.399
pictures of everything I see. You know, I'm just okay,

1426
01:32:58.640 --> 01:33:02.079
are right there? Well whatever, just leave me alone. I'm

1427
01:33:02.159 --> 01:33:05.359
just here to fish or I'm here to hike. And

1428
01:33:05.359 --> 01:33:07.640
I'll say it out loud. Just leave me alone. I'm good.

1429
01:33:08.199 --> 01:33:10.680
You don't have to show yourself to me. I've already no,

1430
01:33:10.760 --> 01:33:16.239
I already know what's going on. I'm just here to

1431
01:33:16.359 --> 01:33:20.239
hike or fish, you know. Just have some peace and quiet.

1432
01:33:21.359 --> 01:33:26.199
I'll be gone. I'm not gonna stay. Yeah, and I

1433
01:33:26.279 --> 01:33:28.800
say that stuff out loud. I'm not going to sound

1434
01:33:28.920 --> 01:33:35.039
crazy but me. They're there, man, and we're the easiest

1435
01:33:35.039 --> 01:33:38.840
thing to hide from. People are the easiest thing to

1436
01:33:38.880 --> 01:33:39.840
hide from in the woods.

1437
01:33:40.560 --> 01:33:43.319
Were very distracted by other things.

1438
01:33:46.000 --> 01:33:51.800
Most people stay on the trail. There's no there's no

1439
01:33:52.039 --> 01:33:57.199
borders for these things. They'll go wherever. You know, they

1440
01:33:57.199 --> 01:34:01.039
don't have to stay on the trail, and people really

1441
01:34:01.039 --> 01:34:04.399
don't either, but most people do because you're usually hiking

1442
01:34:04.560 --> 01:34:07.640
to a point and then coming back. All these hikes

1443
01:34:07.640 --> 01:34:09.960
that I go on, Oh I'm going to this waterfall

1444
01:34:10.439 --> 01:34:16.479
and I'm coming back. Last year, I did the McCloud Falls.

1445
01:34:17.800 --> 01:34:21.039
I did those three waterfalls. I did that hike right there,

1446
01:34:22.960 --> 01:34:27.199
and even on that camping trip. On that trip, I

1447
01:34:27.239 --> 01:34:32.560
went to Mount Shasta, and that's a whole other subject

1448
01:34:32.640 --> 01:34:36.760
right there, but I on the way back from Mount Shasta.

1449
01:34:36.920 --> 01:34:39.800
Mount Shasta is beautiful. It was great. It was great experience.

1450
01:34:42.079 --> 01:34:44.720
I've seen tree breaks up there and some bushes that

1451
01:34:45.680 --> 01:34:50.039
some of those Manzandina tree tree bushes and stuff. Those

1452
01:34:50.039 --> 01:34:55.239
things are pretty strong and they use them for bird

1453
01:34:55.359 --> 01:34:59.399
houses and stuff and bird purchase because you can't they

1454
01:34:59.439 --> 01:35:02.880
don't break up that easily. But I seen a whole

1455
01:35:04.159 --> 01:35:07.720
lot of them, like a bouquet ripped up the ground,

1456
01:35:07.960 --> 01:35:10.159
wadded up and thrown right in the middle of the trail.

1457
01:35:11.920 --> 01:35:15.000
I'm like, what the point did something like that. I

1458
01:35:15.039 --> 01:35:18.039
didn't see it do that, but there was evidence, so

1459
01:35:18.199 --> 01:35:22.119
something did that, and I was like, okay, you're here too.

1460
01:35:22.399 --> 01:35:26.640
I'm sure they are. Its Mount Shasta. But I didn't

1461
01:35:26.680 --> 01:35:29.720
stay on Mount Shasta. I actually camped at another place

1462
01:35:29.720 --> 01:35:33.159
called Castle Craig, and I don't know if that place

1463
01:35:33.239 --> 01:35:37.880
is any better for sasquatch or not, but I'm pretty

1464
01:35:37.880 --> 01:35:42.600
sure it's worse. I didn't see anything over there or anything.

1465
01:35:42.720 --> 01:35:48.920
I fished the upper Sacramento River right there. But I

1466
01:35:48.960 --> 01:35:52.399
did see tracks when I was at McCleod on the

1467
01:35:52.439 --> 01:35:56.520
way back. I see the emvidence there too. I mean,

1468
01:35:56.640 --> 01:36:00.119
you see evidence as long as you're aware of what

1469
01:36:00.119 --> 01:36:04.720
what it is. Most people they're not even looking for

1470
01:36:04.760 --> 01:36:07.600
anything like that, or they don't even know what it

1471
01:36:07.680 --> 01:36:10.880
is if they've seen it. They're just they taking a

1472
01:36:10.960 --> 01:36:16.560
hike nature hike. I do too, but I'm also aware.

1473
01:36:18.520 --> 01:36:21.279
Exactly once you start to know what to look for,

1474
01:36:21.560 --> 01:36:26.479
it is, it's very very eye opening or for sure.

1475
01:36:28.880 --> 01:36:29.439
Well go ahead.

1476
01:36:30.039 --> 01:36:31.800
I was just I was just going to say thank

1477
01:36:31.840 --> 01:36:41.319
you for for for chatting today. It is probably one man.

1478
01:36:44.039 --> 01:36:48.800
It's a very very intense encounter, and I just want

1479
01:36:48.840 --> 01:36:51.079
to say thank you for sharing. I know that it

1480
01:36:51.159 --> 01:36:55.479
is it's probably a hard one to do, but I'm

1481
01:36:55.520 --> 01:36:58.000
glad that you're at the point where you can actually,

1482
01:36:58.720 --> 01:37:00.520
you know, share with people.

1483
01:37:00.680 --> 01:37:08.079
For sure. Hm. Well, I'm actually about like I was

1484
01:37:08.079 --> 01:37:12.840
saying to my wife, I think I'm I'm I'm done sharing.

1485
01:37:13.039 --> 01:37:16.359
I think I'm I don't think I'm gonna do it again.

1486
01:37:16.560 --> 01:37:20.279
But I figured I wanted to reach out to you

1487
01:37:20.319 --> 01:37:24.039
because I have been listening to your to your podcast

1488
01:37:24.159 --> 01:37:27.399
and here are some of your encounters and stuff, and

1489
01:37:27.399 --> 01:37:31.000
that every time I listen to an encounter, I just

1490
01:37:32.439 --> 01:37:37.760
I relived my own through theirs in a way. It's

1491
01:37:38.800 --> 01:37:43.119
it's therapeutic for me, you know, strange way that you know,

1492
01:37:43.359 --> 01:37:46.600
makes me feel good that, oh good, other people are

1493
01:37:46.640 --> 01:37:52.399
coming forward, other people are having having these these crazy

1494
01:37:52.439 --> 01:37:54.479
things going on too. It's not just me.

1495
01:37:58.159 --> 01:38:03.199
Yeah, you know, I I I hope that maybe this

1496
01:38:03.359 --> 01:38:07.319
is just me not being super well. I mean, I'm

1497
01:38:07.359 --> 01:38:09.960
a few years into this, but I would hope that,

1498
01:38:10.680 --> 01:38:13.760
you know, every year we get further into this, maybe

1499
01:38:13.760 --> 01:38:16.239
this is the year where you know, there'll be something

1500
01:38:16.279 --> 01:38:19.920
that that comes out really really big or you know,

1501
01:38:20.079 --> 01:38:24.199
maybe maybe not. But I think it's important that that

1502
01:38:24.279 --> 01:38:27.520
people are still sharing what they've experienced, and you know,

1503
01:38:27.600 --> 01:38:32.159
we will we will see where this this all leads eventually.

1504
01:38:34.239 --> 01:38:37.920
Yeah, well, well you're you're kind of heading in the

1505
01:38:38.039 --> 01:38:42.359
right direction. You went to Oregon, you know, Yeah, that's true.

1506
01:38:42.359 --> 01:38:47.279
I almost I almost went to that. This is last year.

1507
01:38:47.279 --> 01:38:51.199
I almost went up there to that or Great Sharerea

1508
01:38:52.439 --> 01:38:55.600
to check it out. But who knows, maybe I'll go

1509
01:38:55.680 --> 01:38:56.159
next year.

1510
01:38:56.720 --> 01:39:00.279
It's yeah, it's a it's a beautiful, it's I would

1511
01:39:00.319 --> 01:39:03.239
recommend it. It's it's just a it's such a beautiful

1512
01:39:04.079 --> 01:39:07.600
area and not overly hard to get to. You know,

1513
01:39:07.720 --> 01:39:12.359
you just drive over from Eugene area and it's.

1514
01:39:12.239 --> 01:39:14.760
Not oh I know where it's that. It's just it's

1515
01:39:14.800 --> 01:39:18.640
just a past the Crater Lake right there. Yep, yep.

1516
01:39:19.239 --> 01:39:21.279
There's a lot of stuff that happens around Crater Lake.

1517
01:39:21.399 --> 01:39:21.600
Man.

1518
01:39:22.079 --> 01:39:24.479
I've heard some crazy stories over there.

1519
01:39:25.000 --> 01:39:26.520
Oh, like encounters and stuff.

1520
01:39:27.399 --> 01:39:31.399
Oh yeah, yeah, that whole area up in there. You're

1521
01:39:31.399 --> 01:39:33.840
not that far from it when you go there.

1522
01:39:34.840 --> 01:39:36.520
I need I need to keep that in mind. I

1523
01:39:36.920 --> 01:39:39.439
really need to get a little bit east. But well,

1524
01:39:39.520 --> 01:39:43.000
we'll see what happens this year. But Rob, it's been

1525
01:39:43.000 --> 01:39:45.239
a it's been a pleasure chatting with you. Thank you

1526
01:39:45.279 --> 01:39:48.800
so much for coming on the show, and I appreciate

1527
01:39:48.840 --> 01:39:49.920
you listening as well.

1528
01:39:51.520 --> 01:39:54.520
Well. It was a pleasure that, you know, being on

1529
01:39:54.560 --> 01:39:57.560
your show and talking to you, and thank you for

1530
01:39:57.760 --> 01:40:00.159
interviewing me and giving me the chance to share.

1531
01:40:00.800 --> 01:40:04.119
Absolutely, you got it. And now who knows, maybe our

1532
01:40:04.800 --> 01:40:08.439
paths will cross someday. That would be cool. But you

1533
01:40:08.600 --> 01:40:11.720
have a great rest of your day.

1534
01:40:11.760 --> 01:40:15.399
Man, Hey, you do say thanks Jeremiah, thank you.

1535
01:40:22.279 --> 01:40:24.039
Just want to take a few minutes to say thank

1536
01:40:24.079 --> 01:40:27.720
you to you all my listeners for listening to the podcast.

1537
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1545
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1546
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1547
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1548
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McKinsey Bridge area, Sweet Home, pretty much that entire area,

1549
01:41:14.840 --> 01:41:17.920
the north part. If you get what I mean, I'll

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