Feb. 17, 2025

It Reached Down! | Georgia

Jeff, a seasoned outdoorsman, shares a harrowing encounter with an alleged Bigfoot in the Chattahoochee National Forest. Despite years of wilderness experience, Jeff finds himself lost and terrified as a massive, primate-like creature appears before...

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Season 1

Jeff, a seasoned outdoorsman, shares a harrowing encounter with an alleged Bigfoot in the Chattahoochee National Forest. Despite years of wilderness experience, Jeff finds himself lost and terrified as a massive, primate-like creature appears before him. His detailed account includes an ominous hand-breaking branch and a frantic escape through dense forest, shedding light on the dangers and mysteries lurking in remote areas. Hear Jeff’s firsthand experience and his subsequent steps to ensure safety in future hikes.

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All right, Bigfoot Society, You've got the privilege of talking

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to Jeff today. Jeff is an individual that reached out

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to me after I had requested to see if anyone

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had had bigfoot encounters in the Chattahoochee National Forest. He

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reached out through email wanting to share something that had

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happened to him, and we've already been talking in the

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pre interview a little bit in side like it was

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a pretty traumatic experience. So welcome to the show. Jeff

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how's it going today.

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Thank you.

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It's an honor to be on your show, Jeremiah. I

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appreciate it.

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Thank you, Thank you. I appreciate that as as well.

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You know, Jeff, I'm going to say, if there's anything

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that you would like the listeners to know about you

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for contact wise, feel free to share that as well.

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But I will go ahead and give the floor over

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to you and feel free to take us back to

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when this all happened.

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I'll start with the context of my background.

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I mean, I grew up in the wilderness, a lot

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at chaffelt of backwater basin.

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When I was younger.

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My parents had we had one hundred and eighteen acres,

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and our neighbors had a thousand or more acres of

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small playing and remote wilderness. So I spent a lot

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of time as a youth in the woods in the Chaffelaya,

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and then obviously meandered on later in my career that

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I would go to remote places. I was a paramedica

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in New Orleans for eleven years, and then I got,

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you know, burned out with after Hurricane Katrina and the

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Horizon spill, and went on to to just go do

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international safety, which is what a lot of my medical

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bodies do. And I had a partner that you know,

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brought me over to Africa, and I was working as

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a company manager. So I got to see all different

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types of wilderness creatures, you know, lions up in Yon

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Carry Game Reserve. I went four times into the game reserve,

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so I got to see elephants, and I got to

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see all different types of animals, and I got to

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learn about, you know, the primates. I was, you know, naturally,

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when you're in Africa, you're curious about those kind of animals.

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And you find out that the guerrillas aren't just in

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the Vangi or in the mountains areas. They're all over.

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They have lowland guerrillas. When I went down toward the

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areas of Abraca in the southern part of Nigeria and

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southwestern and northeastern part of Nigeria's it, I traveled a

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lot around Africa, and like I said, I've done a

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lot of international work Indonesia. I got to see a

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lot of different animals, species and all of that. I

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never seen anything like I saw in the in the

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Chattahoochee that was that was something I guess I'll start

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that we ended up moving up here in twenty twenty

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into into the Appalachian southern Southern Appalachian Mountains up in the.

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Northwestern part of Georgia.

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And one of the things that caught my eye was,

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I was I had saw I was working on a

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project at the time. I was right now on a

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project and I saw your your presentation about northwest Georgia,

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and it was like, oh my goodness. I said, I

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had this this experience up there on the Yellow Mountain Trail,

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and I guess I'll just go go from there with that.

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Jeremiah.

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It was June eleventh, twenty twenty two, and I was, you.

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Know, there was a lot.

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I was working on a project, A lot was going on,

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and typically what I do is I just take a break.

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Me and a wife had been had been talking in

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the morning about some things, and you know, I kind

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of ed said, look, I need a break from from

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this and I'm going to go for a walking on

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a trail. And I've done this, you know, thousands of times.

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It's nothing I haven't done before. And there's been some

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times when I get out there, when I get out

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on especially these beautiful Appalachian mountains, you know, the wildlife,

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the scenery, the peacefulness of everything. I'll stay out there,

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you know, almost still dark, and sometimes I've got my

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butt shewed by my wife for being a little too late, you.

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Know, and my mother in law and father in law.

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But what happened was I went out on a new

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trail and I broke all the rules. And I should

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have known better, because I mean, part of my career

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doing paramedica and doing consultation work for some of these

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old companies was teaching them about seeing a wearing and

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scene safety and those kind of things.

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So I went up there.

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This was supposed to be a you probably heard this before,

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supposed to be a thirty minute walk.

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Just go do a walk on this trail. Figured i'd

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go up.

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To the peak of a yellow mountain and come back down.

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And I got I got out there, and I didn't

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bring my day back with me. I didn't bring any

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water because it was just gonna be a quick hike

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cup And I got on the trail and I found

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weirdly enough, I got to the top and I find

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this this little cairn at the at the top. The

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trail doesn't have doesn't get partly any activity, which was

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kind of curious for me too, because it's like, wow,

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this is like people don't really come out here all

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that much. And then you look at the designage of

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the places kind of kind of run down and broken

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off and that kind of stuff.

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So I, you know, just said.

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Well, I thought it was a great experience to be

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able to see, you know, these ancient trees in this.

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Particular area I was at. So I went down.

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Past ADDIE's Gap and went into what they called Chestnut Mountain,

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and I'd found these beautiful waterfalls and the cave systems

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and everything, and was having a pretty great adventure. I

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found these towering blueberry bushes and you know, waterfalls, like

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I'd said, the cave systems, and then I said, well,

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I've started realizing I'd been out there more than thirty minutes,

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and the wife would get concerned. So I turned back

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around to go back up, and I don't know how

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it happened to this day. I still get clowned about

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it from the family because I'm usually not want to,

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you know.

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Make a mistake like that.

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But I came back up and was going down the

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trail and started walking and said, I figured, all right,

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I'm going back over passing the cairn, I'm going back down.

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And I got on the trail and realized these trees

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didn't look the same and the forest didn't look the same,

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and I realized that I was going in the wrong

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direction of where I had originally came from, and so

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I went back around. And of course where I'm at

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up there, there's no phone services nowhere for me to

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look at my topographical map or anything like that. So

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I said, okay, I'll just go back around this way.

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But what I have experienced before in the Appalachian Forest was,

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you know, when you get on a trail, out of

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your trail out if you go for days. So it

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was like a little concerned at the time, but not

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overly concerned. So I came back up around, and I

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don't know how, I zigged and then zagged back across

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these trails for about about another hour, and I was realizing,

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how you know.

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Starting to get a little.

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Bit more concerned, and then I finally figured out a

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way to get to a steep enbank and came back

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around to the sub what I would I would find

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out later on, was the southern part of Cooper's Creek,

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and it was getting to be dark, and I was like,

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oh boy, I'm really going to get it for being

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being late now. And I followed what I thought was

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a path that was going to bring me right out,

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and it wasn't. It was another hour and a half

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before I actually reached down near a seldom used forestry road,

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like just an offshoot. And by this time I was like, okay,

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it's getting to be about ten o'clock. The moon's coming up.

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I'm really like starting to feel it now. I'm like,

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oh boy, I don't really done a number here, but

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at least I found the forestry road, and where I

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was at I made the mistake of thinking I was

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going north, which is going to bring me back up

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to Multi Gap Road, and I had another at least

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six seven miles to walk to get to where my

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vehicle was and and where Yellow Mountain was up on

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the Duncan Ridge. So what ended up happening was I

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made the mistake and went south and ended up going

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right into the Southern Port, heading toward Morganton and such as,

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and not even realizing it, and you know, it was

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ten o'clock at night, I was on my my third

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I was I was heading I realized where it was

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by this time, because I recognized that one of the

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forest rills me and my wife had taken near Cooper's Creek.

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And then I crossed past the creek and kept going,

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and I just figured, all right, I'll just meet it

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out here, final phone seeing, and I'll just call and

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get get my you know, get my wife or somebody

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in the family to come pick me up, you know,

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and I'll have a lot of explaining to me once

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I get home.

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So so around the first.

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Bend, I didn't, I didn't there. It was very well moonlight,

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and you could see, you know, you could hear water,

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you know, gurgling in the in the nearby creek to

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my right. You could see they where it was inclining

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up into the mountains to my left, and you could

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see animals obviously moving around in the forest, you know,

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which is quite common there with where I was at.

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So I was making my second turn and not thinking

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of it, and just wanted to just get on out

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of the woods, trying to conserve my battery, not using

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my light and just using the moon light.

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When I made the.

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Third bind, I saw a shadow or something go across

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the road, and I just took it to be either

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a deer or a bear or just you know, because

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that's they're quite common around here.

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And and didn't think none of it.

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And a weird thing had happened just before I got

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made that third bind. There was and I was still

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in my head thinking that I'll you know that that

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I was heading toward Mulky Branch and then I'll just

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get on Mulki Branch got roaded and I saw an

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offshoot trail and it was a fork in the road,

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and it was you know, something said, you know, don't

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take that that particular trail, so I was gonna take it.

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I was thinking, well, maybe I'll just take a short cut.

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I'll cut out all this this extra distance and I'll

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be able to across through the woods and up on

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the other side over there. But I decided not to

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A good thing I didn't because it was on the

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third bend that I was coming that.

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Something just below me on that.

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Particular trail, which was right next to us until some

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kind of a creek or some kind of waterway at

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the time, something moved and I didn't think.

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I first, you know, it moved.

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I didn't think much of it, but it stomped, and

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when it stopped, it shook and it shook the ground,

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and I was like, goodness, that's a big bear, you know.

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That's the way I was thinking. Was still wasn't thinking

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anything else but bear or something big, you know, Except

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it stomped again, and I said, wait, it's not on

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four legs, it's on two. And it shook the ground again,

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and it's you know, kind of I was like, at

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this point, I'm like the way they's getting a little closer,

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and it ain't scared, So I'm gonna holler at it

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and holler bear. So hey bear, Hey bear. And I

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made fun of people all the time about this, Oh yeah,

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that's going to stop a bear. But I hollered again,

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and I mean I hollered loud man, I mean I

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usually I let my voice go it, you know. And

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it kept moving forward, not even phased at what I

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was doing, and I said, this is one big animal

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that's that's not scared of people.

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So I said, okay, well we're just going to go

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around and just mose.

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I almost thought about running back, and I said that

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would have probably been a bad idea.

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So at this.

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Point, it kept coming forward and I just man, I

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didn't know what to think, so at for a moment there,

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I clicked my light on and shined my light up,

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and when I did, there was a group of trees.

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It's just like yesterday. There was some laurel bushes.

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There was a sweet shrub bush right in there, right

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next to the road system, and then there was a

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it was a dumb tree, I guess. And this hand

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comes up and breaks a branch right right above me,

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and I'm like, and the first thing is it's a hand.

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That that that freaked me out right off the back.

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The second thing that freaked me out about it was

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the height of the hand from the base of where

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it was coming from. You know, it was if I

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had to guess, I mean, just an estimate, the branch

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from the road to the to the top had been

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at least from where I was gathering. From from where

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this thing was standing, it would be at least eight

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to nine feet. And I was like freaked out already.

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But then it was you know, I'm thinking Paul, expecting Paul,

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not hand, and it was a primate hand, and it

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was the biggest thing I ever saw in my life.

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And I've seen guerrillas before, man zoos out in the wild,

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you name it. And when I saw that, I ain't

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gonna lie to you, I paniced. I ran like I ran,

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Like I tell people all the time. I ran like

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the devil. Hi stuff was chasing me, and I ran

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and I didn't. I did not look back, And I

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tell you that was the the I think. By the

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time I finished running, almost almost tripped over a to

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a box turtle on the way heading out, I didn't

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even the whole time. I kept thinking this thing was

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gonna probably jump out and come after me. But I

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was scared to death.

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Man.

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I ain't never been scared of any animal in my life.

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But when you see something like that, now that size,

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in that setting, and you're by yourself, and there's I

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had nothing, no weapon of any sword, and I don't

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I don't even think a gun would have done.

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Anything to this. But by the time I'd finished running,

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I didn't stop. I mean, IM was heaving.

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By the time I must have gone ten ten at

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least ten miles from when I gathered just he even dry,

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even you know, throat feeling like I had sandpaper in

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it because I was exhausted. But I kept kept on

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up on hiking through and running, and I finally came

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out into an open area, an open field, and I

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opened it looked like an open pasture where there was

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moonlight and there's mountains all around, pine covered mountains. And

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I looked over to my left and realized i'd shine

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my light up because I couldn't really see it. But

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I saw a sign and the science showed that Cooper's

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Creek Wildlife Management Area. So I was like, WHOA, I said,

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how in the heck did I get this far? And

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I didn't even at the time, I didn't realize it,

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but I had come out out near Morganton and such as,

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which was way way far from where I, you know,

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from where I was at and you know, from my

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from my hometown. And when ended up happening, it was

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I don't know how to how to explain the rest

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of it. That I came out there still was no

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phone signal. It was the creepiest, eeriest feeling, you know,

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realizing after I got my wind that that where I

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was at was, you know, it still had me creaked

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out that there might be things still out there coming

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and I just kept on moving. But there was a

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beautiful church, uh beautiful Appalachian church down and I saw

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a sign which kind of to me that hasn't The

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word providence has a dual meaning for me now. Providence

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for me means you know, with with with my writing

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and all this, you know, you know, the home of

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Heart Phillips Lovecraft. But also for me, Providence is that church,

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that moonlit night where I got to come out and

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see this sign in this place and finally get some

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semblance and then get back to civilization. But totally freaked out.

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Well what I still trying to process even even now.

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And I got to to the to an asphalt wrote

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about half an hour later, and I almost made a

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mistake and was going to go south again when I

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went said no, no, no, I'm going this. I'm going right

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to start of the north, and I managed about about

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fifteen twenty minutes later, I managed to get a text

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to my my very very worried wife, and it was

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almost one in the morning, and man, I found the first,

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I hate to say, the well in the woods when

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I had gotten the hydro when I was getting turned around,

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i'd drink some of the spring water up there and

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it was the finest.

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Like I told Dave, Maccara when I.

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Reported to him a couple of days later, the water

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up here was the best water I ever drank in

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my life. And then I said, you know, and then

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and down and then waiting for my family was probably

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one of the creepiest things I ever had to do,

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waiting for somebody to come and get me.

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And I was I wasn't going to report.

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Because I was embarrassed more than anything getting lost and

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then running into you know, I run into an obviously bigfoot.

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I was embarrassed on on that. But then you know,

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I'm still you know, trying to process it all. And

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my daughter at the time, Caitlin, had had kept in,

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you know, telling me, I need I need to report

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I need to report this. I need to report it

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to the to the to the Bigfoot place, which is

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just down the road from us. And that's when I called.

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And I you know, at the time, I didn't know

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how I was gonna approach it. But mister Dave was

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the day of care, was was great. The way he

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actually it was kind of a funny thing, Jeremi. He

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he starts with, oh, so you saw faral people, and

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I went like they got fair of people like I

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freaked out. I was like, you got fair of people

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out of here, which I have to seeing a big foot.

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I mean, I mean, I'm open for anything these days, man.

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But that's pretty much the extent of what happened. It

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took me, I guess it must have taken well after

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getting I got my butte about the family they really

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torn to me. But uh, it took me about it. It

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took me a couple of weeks to get my knees hurt,

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my body eight and and all of that. And then

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once we might mean the father in law said down

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it had been at least it must have. I must

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have checked at least twenty seven miles zig zagging back

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and forth across the mountains, and you know, totally trying

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to figure out where I was to get out of

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get out of there. But just you know, simple goofy

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mistakes like that, you know, and you get you turned around.

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But never, in my wildest means I think I was

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going to run into something like that out there.

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Man.

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That is such a fascinating story. It's also a great

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cautionary tale. It is something that you know, people will say, yes,

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you know, we hear stuff like that. You know what

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could happen even if you're only going out for half

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an hour. Make sure you got a day pack. That's

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what I try to do myself. You never ever know

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what you could get yourself into. And I think you're probably,

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you know, one of the luckiest guys in a while

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down there that nothing did happen to you and you

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were able to get to get back, So yeah, good

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for you.

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Man.

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Regarding the hand that you saw that was about eight

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to nine feet up, were there certain details that you

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first saw that made you think, oh, this is some

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kind of huge primate hand up here.

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Yeah.

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The nail color and the decreases, that's what what threw me.

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And then obviously the hair. The hair was more like

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you know what I'm saying, I mean, gorilla handed. It's

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just it just blew my mind. It was like, let

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me wait up. You know, I'm thinking bear claw, you know,

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bear scratching on a blog or whatever, and he's just

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you're not gonna be bothered with me. That's the first

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thing that got me. The fact that it cracked a

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branch that was about four inches four inches in diameter,

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like it was like it was a toothpick, like you

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and I would crack a little stick for kindle, and

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that's what got me right, and all of that. And

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it wasn't claws, you know that I was expecting claws,

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you know, I figured I was estimating. I was figuring, mind,

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it's gonna be about eight hundred pounds or you know,

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black bear or something, because this is black bear all

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over the place around here. And when it wasn't claws,

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and then it was nails that that that threw me.

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And then obviously the reddish grayish colored fur on the

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on the hand that that wasn't you know that That's

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what was like, you know, like if you took the

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easiest way to describe with somewhat like a ranguting but

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not quite you had like you could tell that it's

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more of a used to a mountainous kind of a climate,

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you know what I'm saying. It's the best way I

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could describe it, more of a the color slightly reddish,

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but then it had color colors of brownish gray in

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it too. That was that was another thing. But as

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far as the sea in the eyes or any of that.

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And I saw when I saw the hand, that was

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enough for me. And I mean I caught thinking back

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a couple of days after, it was like, all right,

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I did see the silhouette, but I didn't. They were

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talking about grunts and groans and all of that, and

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the smell. I didn't catch any of that, and that

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might be from where it was located.

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That was blowing.

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But man, I still think, man, if I'd have went

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on that Fort trail, what would have happened if I'd

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have ran into that thing?

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Because there's nothing there was, you know.

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You know, there's those moments when you realize there's nothing

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you would have been able to do, you know, and

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it makes.

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Me go back.

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And I started researching, like, did not David Poliita stuff

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after that, and it made me start wondering, well, well,

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if you run.

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Into something like that out there and it's.

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Decided, well today you're on the menu, you know, And

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I don't know if it's on you know, I don't

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know if it's omnivore or what.

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I know. It broke a branch like it was a toothpage.

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It was. Man, it took me two years to go

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back in the woods.

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Brother, Oh wow, is that the woods in general or

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just this one area of woods that you wouldn't go

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back in for two years.

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Just that particular area, that particular area.

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And actually, to be honest with you, if I'm gonna

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be honest, I mean as far as like remote force,

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I haven't know. I didn't go back in I made

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I may didn't make a trick. About a year ago,

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I did.

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I went on.

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I drove back up to the top of Duncan. Me

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and my father in law were up there, and you know,

462
00:20:50.920 --> 00:20:53.680
so I wasn't alone that time, but that we drove

463
00:20:53.759 --> 00:20:55.279
up and we were just looking at one of the

464
00:20:55.319 --> 00:20:56.000
local creeks.

465
00:20:56.039 --> 00:20:56.640
But that was it.

466
00:20:57.000 --> 00:20:59.079
As far as like remote, I haven't been back in there,

467
00:20:59.440 --> 00:21:01.079
you know. And I try to make a drive to

468
00:21:01.319 --> 00:21:04.799
a yellow mountain in this park and just listen, you know,

469
00:21:04.960 --> 00:21:07.680
And but that was it. Yeah, it's carried me. It

470
00:21:07.720 --> 00:21:09.720
spooked me for a while. It spooked me for a while.

471
00:21:09.799 --> 00:21:12.680
I'll tell you that much. For God, it goes out,

472
00:21:13.119 --> 00:21:14.640
It goes out in the woods all the time.

473
00:21:14.440 --> 00:21:14.759
Like I do.

474
00:21:15.039 --> 00:21:22.920
Yeah, absolutely, now going into the woods. Now, do you

475
00:21:23.000 --> 00:21:28.039
find yourself preparing differently when you go on day hikes

476
00:21:28.039 --> 00:21:28.279
like that?

477
00:21:29.359 --> 00:21:34.880
Absolutely? Absolutely? If I go on, but I don't, we don't.

478
00:21:35.039 --> 00:21:37.680
The last time I made a made it, we made

479
00:21:37.680 --> 00:21:41.720
an attempt. We have the seventy acre park nearby, so

480
00:21:41.759 --> 00:21:43.880
that that's plenty of fun for me these days.

481
00:21:43.880 --> 00:21:45.160
It's got the river and all of that.

482
00:21:45.240 --> 00:21:47.799
But if I do make any type if I'll go

483
00:21:47.880 --> 00:21:50.720
with and I'm using going with somebody now, I'll carry

484
00:21:50.720 --> 00:21:53.039
a pack. We carry a day pack. You know that

485
00:21:53.839 --> 00:21:56.119
you know, obviously protect ourselves, if you know what I mean.

486
00:21:56.680 --> 00:21:59.440
Oh my goodness, it's that eerie feeling though after you know,

487
00:21:59.480 --> 00:22:02.519
it's like the same feeling I had, like when I

488
00:22:02.599 --> 00:22:05.640
when I came came out of the loud of Cooper's Creek.

489
00:22:05.880 --> 00:22:08.839
It was the the idea that that thing could be there,

490
00:22:08.839 --> 00:22:11.599
could be that thing or a group of them, you know, watching,

491
00:22:12.799 --> 00:22:14.839
you know, watching you or keeping an eye on you,

492
00:22:14.839 --> 00:22:16.400
you know, and you don't even know they're there, and

493
00:22:16.400 --> 00:22:20.079
they know you're there. But it's it's it's it's, yeah,

494
00:22:20.119 --> 00:22:25.000
I understand that animals, especially well before. Yeah, like deer,

495
00:22:25.039 --> 00:22:27.240
and so they're always aware of you. We get deer

496
00:22:27.319 --> 00:22:30.359
up on the top of the hill right here right

497
00:22:30.400 --> 00:22:32.319
by the house, and that down in the valley and

498
00:22:32.359 --> 00:22:34.559
all of that. There's been times when I used to

499
00:22:34.640 --> 00:22:37.559
go walk to the Duncan Ridge of the Benton Mackay that,

500
00:22:37.960 --> 00:22:39.880
or get down from the Duncky Ridge to the Bent

501
00:22:40.079 --> 00:22:42.279
Mackay that. You know, you'd see me sitting on a

502
00:22:42.359 --> 00:22:45.160
rock and you know, look, a mountainine might come out

503
00:22:45.160 --> 00:22:46.880
and look at you and go back into the woods.

504
00:22:46.960 --> 00:22:49.000
Or you might see a bear down in the valley.

505
00:22:49.000 --> 00:22:51.519
But you always know they're there. But you know, just

506
00:22:51.599 --> 00:22:56.000
like with this, this this big footed you know it's there,

507
00:22:56.039 --> 00:22:58.000
but you hear the stories and you hear the myths

508
00:22:58.039 --> 00:23:00.000
and you hear all the stuff. And I scoffed it off.

509
00:23:00.400 --> 00:23:02.920
But not now, No, indeed not.

510
00:23:04.960 --> 00:23:07.640
So you know, I love talking to the guys up

511
00:23:07.680 --> 00:23:13.400
at the Expedition Bigfoot Museum, which is no relation to

512
00:23:13.519 --> 00:23:16.359
the show. I always point that out. But when you

513
00:23:16.440 --> 00:23:20.640
talk to David, what was his reaction when you told

514
00:23:20.720 --> 00:23:23.839
him where the area was that you had that encounter.

515
00:23:24.039 --> 00:23:27.559
Was it, oh, that's kind of a new place, or like, yeah,

516
00:23:27.599 --> 00:23:29.799
there's been other things that have happened there too.

517
00:23:30.920 --> 00:23:34.599
He made me feel more at ease when he told me,

518
00:23:34.599 --> 00:23:37.119
he said, Jeff, the police you went walking through is

519
00:23:37.519 --> 00:23:39.000
a Bigfoot hotspot.

520
00:23:39.200 --> 00:23:41.000
So that was an eye opener.

521
00:23:41.079 --> 00:23:43.400
I said, great, I said, of all the places I

522
00:23:43.559 --> 00:23:47.519
decided to go trap it around, which I was just

523
00:23:47.559 --> 00:23:49.880
going to be honest. I was going down to see

524
00:23:49.920 --> 00:23:52.200
some of the there's an ancient forest that runs up

525
00:23:52.240 --> 00:23:54.839
that runs down south past Chestnut. I was going to

526
00:23:54.920 --> 00:23:57.599
check those beautiful trees out because even as a kid,

527
00:23:57.640 --> 00:24:01.000
we had these giant, five hundred thousand year old ancient cypress,

528
00:24:01.160 --> 00:24:01.759
and then out.

529
00:24:01.599 --> 00:24:03.960
Here these woods make those make those.

530
00:24:03.720 --> 00:24:06.799
Trees back in the swamp look like toothpicks, I mean

531
00:24:06.799 --> 00:24:09.920
these ancient trees. So yeah, when I told Dave when

532
00:24:09.960 --> 00:24:12.319
I when I when I explained to him where he knew,

533
00:24:12.640 --> 00:24:14.279
he was like right off the back and all that.

534
00:24:14.400 --> 00:24:16.200
Then when I said, you got to tell me more

535
00:24:16.200 --> 00:24:19.039
about this feral people thing, man, He's like, he said, yeah,

536
00:24:19.079 --> 00:24:21.680
that's the thing. I'm like, oh my goodness, but yeah,

537
00:24:21.799 --> 00:24:24.279
he yeah, it was a hot spot. Yeah, I walked

538
00:24:24.319 --> 00:24:25.960
into I don't know how I did it, but I

539
00:24:26.000 --> 00:24:27.119
walked right smacked.

540
00:24:26.799 --> 00:24:28.400
In the I should have known it. It's such an

541
00:24:28.440 --> 00:24:29.400
ancient police you know.

542
00:24:30.519 --> 00:24:32.400
I saw a fella I talked when I actually I

543
00:24:32.480 --> 00:24:34.720
ran into a fella that was talking about I was

544
00:24:34.720 --> 00:24:37.039
telling him about He was asking me about being chaffel

545
00:24:37.039 --> 00:24:39.759
line in this in cypress, and I was still I

546
00:24:39.839 --> 00:24:41.440
used to deer hunt off of them. I'd sit on

547
00:24:41.519 --> 00:24:43.400
top of one of these cypress, and I said, they

548
00:24:43.440 --> 00:24:45.880
were so big you could literally I mean they the

549
00:24:45.960 --> 00:24:48.240
cypress and needs would grow together and make make caves

550
00:24:48.279 --> 00:24:49.720
inside of him. I said, but it ain't nothing like

551
00:24:49.799 --> 00:24:52.480
out here. He said, no, it's nothing like out here.

552
00:24:53.559 --> 00:24:54.200
So it was.

553
00:24:54.400 --> 00:24:56.279
And then once I got to see some of these

554
00:24:56.359 --> 00:24:58.599
giant polplers that are, man, I don't know how old

555
00:24:58.640 --> 00:25:01.960
these trees are, and these great oaks and all of that.

556
00:25:02.160 --> 00:25:02.839
It was beautiful.

557
00:25:02.920 --> 00:25:03.079
Man.

558
00:25:03.160 --> 00:25:05.599
It was, I mean one of the best, best and

559
00:25:05.680 --> 00:25:07.920
worst experiences in my life. I can tell you that much.

560
00:25:08.799 --> 00:25:09.440
It was wild.

561
00:25:11.119 --> 00:25:16.799
Who the people that you you told about what you saw,

562
00:25:17.720 --> 00:25:22.240
how was their reaction? Did they believe you or did

563
00:25:22.279 --> 00:25:25.160
they find it hard to believe what you had seen?

564
00:25:26.759 --> 00:25:26.799
My?

565
00:25:27.559 --> 00:25:32.839
Uh, my my daughter she she she she she believed

566
00:25:33.039 --> 00:25:35.000
she because she was there. She came and picked me up.

567
00:25:35.240 --> 00:25:37.880
And and then her boyfriend the time, he said, man,

568
00:25:37.960 --> 00:25:40.119
this was nightmare like. He looked where I was at

569
00:25:40.519 --> 00:25:42.519
and how I came out the woods and you know,

570
00:25:43.000 --> 00:25:45.319
and he said, it was like nightmare. Fewel man, where

571
00:25:45.359 --> 00:25:47.759
you came out at us? Said you telling me and

572
00:25:47.839 --> 00:25:50.000
all of that, and then they knew.

573
00:25:50.039 --> 00:25:50.599
I mean I was.

574
00:25:50.759 --> 00:25:54.440
I was, man, I've never been that beat up. Oh

575
00:25:54.519 --> 00:25:56.920
my goodness, I was beating. They had to like literally

576
00:25:57.039 --> 00:25:59.440
get me into the car. They had water, some more water,

577
00:26:00.079 --> 00:26:03.480
but yeah, they they had. My wife was more, you know,

578
00:26:03.720 --> 00:26:06.240
more concerned with the idea that you know, that I

579
00:26:06.359 --> 00:26:08.000
was out there and that with a predator that could

580
00:26:08.039 --> 00:26:08.839
have you know, could.

581
00:26:08.720 --> 00:26:11.759
Have taken me down and all that. My father and

582
00:26:11.839 --> 00:26:12.240
mother in law.

583
00:26:12.359 --> 00:26:14.200
My father law says, we don't go out there without

584
00:26:14.400 --> 00:26:15.799
We don't go out there without weapon.

585
00:26:16.160 --> 00:26:18.440
He does. My mother in law had no. Yeah, they

586
00:26:19.000 --> 00:26:19.720
had no no.

587
00:26:20.359 --> 00:26:22.519
Yeah when I came, because they know when I talk

588
00:26:22.559 --> 00:26:25.640
about you know, these things. Yeah, he said, no, we

589
00:26:25.680 --> 00:26:28.559
ain't going out there with that now. And we definitely

590
00:26:28.559 --> 00:26:29.720
don't go out there at night. I can tell you

591
00:26:29.839 --> 00:26:30.200
that much.

592
00:26:31.079 --> 00:26:31.319
Yeah.

593
00:26:31.519 --> 00:26:34.240
Yeah, So yeah, the general consensus was, yeah, I saw

594
00:26:34.359 --> 00:26:37.680
something out there. But that's the thing that you know,

595
00:26:38.240 --> 00:26:40.079
that's what I was more worried about than anything. How

596
00:26:40.079 --> 00:26:42.559
am I going to explain this to people. That's the

597
00:26:42.680 --> 00:26:45.200
part that it just gets me, is like, man, I mean,

598
00:26:45.240 --> 00:26:46.839
at this point, I don't care if people believe me

599
00:26:46.920 --> 00:26:49.400
or not. It's it's the idea that I know what

600
00:26:49.480 --> 00:26:51.880
I saw out there that night. I've seen a lot

601
00:26:51.920 --> 00:26:55.240
of animals in different places. You know, Komoda dragon swimming

602
00:26:55.279 --> 00:26:57.640
in and down there in the Komoda Islands. Whoknew that

603
00:26:57.759 --> 00:27:01.240
they swam like gators and this thing. Yeah, I have

604
00:27:01.359 --> 00:27:04.559
no doubt these things exist. No, Now, Yeah, you take

605
00:27:04.599 --> 00:27:06.160
a lot of precautions when we go out in the woods.

606
00:27:06.200 --> 00:27:08.519
I can tell you that much the way.

607
00:27:09.319 --> 00:27:14.319
Thinking about how this affected you when you saw that

608
00:27:14.799 --> 00:27:20.720
hand break that branch, uh, was it similar to being

609
00:27:21.200 --> 00:27:26.799
affected by seeing any of these Safari animals that you've

610
00:27:26.960 --> 00:27:29.720
mentioned that you've had run ins with, like going over

611
00:27:29.799 --> 00:27:31.079
to Africa or anything like that.

612
00:27:33.160 --> 00:27:35.559
The closest thing that comes that comes to mind was

613
00:27:35.599 --> 00:27:39.319
this giant bull elephant that when we were we want

614
00:27:39.720 --> 00:27:42.400
the last round, we going obviously going to just like

615
00:27:42.440 --> 00:27:45.200
you see them as far as the big armored trucks.

616
00:27:45.440 --> 00:27:46.920
So you got that with you, but that wouldn't have

617
00:27:46.920 --> 00:27:49.319
stopped this particular bull elephant.

618
00:27:50.680 --> 00:27:52.000
It was that feeling we was.

619
00:27:52.319 --> 00:27:53.960
I was with a guy named Renaissy, and I was

620
00:27:53.960 --> 00:27:57.000
with one of my good friends, Mustafa. He lived in

621
00:27:57.039 --> 00:27:59.599
the area, so he knew he knew the animals. Sometimes

622
00:27:59.599 --> 00:28:02.160
I couldn't spy the animals because I wasn't used to

623
00:28:02.200 --> 00:28:04.880
a different color pattern. And he could spot like a

624
00:28:04.960 --> 00:28:07.039
guinea or he could spot a you know, a water

625
00:28:07.079 --> 00:28:08.279
hog before we could.

626
00:28:08.359 --> 00:28:11.119
And all of that, and I mean brilliant, but neither

627
00:28:11.279 --> 00:28:11.559
none of.

628
00:28:11.640 --> 00:28:14.519
Us expected a bull elephant to push down a big, old,

629
00:28:14.559 --> 00:28:17.119
giant teak tree that was man the size of some

630
00:28:17.200 --> 00:28:19.400
of the the Appalachian oaks around here, just pushed it

631
00:28:19.519 --> 00:28:23.559
down and then started at us. And moustaf areknew right

632
00:28:23.640 --> 00:28:26.160
then and there when he did that, he was showing

633
00:28:26.200 --> 00:28:27.880
a display that we needed to get out of there

634
00:28:27.880 --> 00:28:29.920
because he was gonna come and run. He was defending

635
00:28:30.000 --> 00:28:32.720
his There was a big herd of elephant there, but

636
00:28:32.880 --> 00:28:35.960
that was about if there's anything that came. And then

637
00:28:36.119 --> 00:28:38.920
the Lowland obviously when I was scuba diving down there,

638
00:28:39.079 --> 00:28:42.920
the Ethiopic River, the the the Lowland gorilla when they

639
00:28:43.079 --> 00:28:45.359
when they were going across because their their feet are

640
00:28:45.400 --> 00:28:48.039
different than the than the silver backs, because they're they're

641
00:28:48.079 --> 00:28:51.000
more having to go across water and aquatic and climbing

642
00:28:51.039 --> 00:28:53.640
trees more than the silver backs climbing through the mountain

643
00:28:53.720 --> 00:28:57.079
jungles and stuff. Yeah, I'd say it was about like that. Yeah,

644
00:28:57.359 --> 00:28:59.480
except it was a big giant. It was three times

645
00:28:59.519 --> 00:29:01.400
the size of the silver bag. Oh man.

646
00:29:02.200 --> 00:29:10.200
Yeah, sometimes when people have experiences like this, it ends

647
00:29:10.319 --> 00:29:14.720
up putting them on a just kind of a quest

648
00:29:14.799 --> 00:29:19.519
to figure out what other things like this are happening

649
00:29:19.599 --> 00:29:23.880
around their area. Is that anything you experienced or was

650
00:29:24.039 --> 00:29:27.559
the the most of that? Just going up to talk

651
00:29:27.640 --> 00:29:28.480
to David mkhera.

652
00:29:30.160 --> 00:29:33.839
Well, well, first, Dave's Dave's place over there at Terry Hill.

653
00:29:34.160 --> 00:29:37.160
It's amazing. I mean, he's he's taking a science, scientific

654
00:29:37.240 --> 00:29:40.279
approach to it and his his concepts and his ideas.

655
00:29:40.319 --> 00:29:43.519
I mean, I mean that was one of the things

656
00:29:43.559 --> 00:29:46.440
that when when we would bring when we brought friends

657
00:29:47.000 --> 00:29:48.960
to when we're interested in the play, they wanted to

658
00:29:49.000 --> 00:29:52.079
go see you know that the scientific approach he's.

659
00:29:51.960 --> 00:29:52.400
Got to it.

660
00:29:53.000 --> 00:29:56.559
But yeah, I took a deep dive into the boogers

661
00:29:56.640 --> 00:30:01.319
they call him. I want to know more about but that,

662
00:30:01.759 --> 00:30:04.160
And then I saw that you had you had done one,

663
00:30:04.359 --> 00:30:06.240
you'd done an interview with I believe one of the

664
00:30:06.279 --> 00:30:10.079
Bigfoot people about about them. And then there's this fella

665
00:30:10.119 --> 00:30:13.119
out of mortgage and that's talking about other cryptid stuff.

666
00:30:13.200 --> 00:30:16.160
It's places, I mean if there's ever going to be

667
00:30:16.200 --> 00:30:18.640
a place you're going to find something like like these,

668
00:30:18.799 --> 00:30:20.759
these animals. This this is the place because of the

669
00:30:20.839 --> 00:30:23.960
age of the mountains. I mean, I was doing research

670
00:30:24.039 --> 00:30:25.319
and it I had to know. I wanted to know

671
00:30:25.359 --> 00:30:26.279
how these mountains were.

672
00:30:26.359 --> 00:30:27.160
That was my big thing.

673
00:30:27.640 --> 00:30:30.240
And nobody's given a really given a They're they're staying

674
00:30:30.240 --> 00:30:34.240
anywhere from five hundred million to maybe a billion years old,

675
00:30:34.400 --> 00:30:37.440
these mountains. They're really not given an accurate estimate of

676
00:30:37.519 --> 00:30:40.680
It's kind of it's. Yeah, if there's ever in the

677
00:30:40.759 --> 00:30:43.599
diversity of life up here, it's just off the chain

678
00:30:43.720 --> 00:30:45.240
of never seen anything like you.

679
00:30:45.319 --> 00:30:46.559
Man, whew.

680
00:30:47.839 --> 00:30:53.240
So it sounds like there are definite areas in this

681
00:30:53.960 --> 00:30:59.559
national forest where things could hide and very rarely be

682
00:30:59.720 --> 00:31:02.119
seen if they didn't want to.

683
00:31:03.920 --> 00:31:05.200
Yeah, I definitely believe that.

684
00:31:05.839 --> 00:31:08.200
I mean, just I didn't realize the cave systems how

685
00:31:08.279 --> 00:31:10.880
intricate they are. They've got caves, they talk about the

686
00:31:10.920 --> 00:31:13.400
deepest cave systems up in Tennessee and all because we

687
00:31:13.559 --> 00:31:16.079
we had a cabin up there and like Ruby Falls,

688
00:31:16.119 --> 00:31:18.400
but they they're cave systems. I mean, just one of

689
00:31:18.440 --> 00:31:21.400
the one of the guys were watching before this, this

690
00:31:21.640 --> 00:31:23.039
this thing happened with the Bigfoot.

691
00:31:23.559 --> 00:31:24.480
Actually venture twins.

692
00:31:24.519 --> 00:31:26.599
They go down in these cave systems, and I was

693
00:31:26.680 --> 00:31:30.119
blown away by the They've got canyons of cave systems

694
00:31:30.200 --> 00:31:32.240
up and the around in this area, and it's yeah,

695
00:31:32.359 --> 00:31:34.319
if something wants to hide, it can hide around here.

696
00:31:37.960 --> 00:31:41.279
Do you have any advice for people that find themselves

697
00:31:41.839 --> 00:31:46.440
in a situation close to it what you experienced that night?

698
00:31:49.000 --> 00:31:51.240
My best advice is, don't go out there at night,

699
00:31:52.400 --> 00:31:56.680
and if if you, if you find yourself you know,

700
00:31:56.759 --> 00:31:58.559
and and that, make sure you bring a day pack

701
00:31:58.640 --> 00:32:00.480
with you when you go and all that, and bring

702
00:32:00.559 --> 00:32:03.480
a backup compass. Don't don't be you won't be able

703
00:32:03.519 --> 00:32:05.119
to have a phone. You won't use the phone up there.

704
00:32:05.160 --> 00:32:08.000
There's no phone service up there in those in those areas,

705
00:32:08.039 --> 00:32:10.160
and you won't be able to use GPS, even if

706
00:32:10.440 --> 00:32:13.559
even using the garments up there. I've heard stories from locals,

707
00:32:14.200 --> 00:32:16.799
I mean, people in at that that they got lost

708
00:32:16.880 --> 00:32:19.480
or got turned around. So yeah, make sure you have

709
00:32:19.519 --> 00:32:22.400
a backup compass and definitely water.

710
00:32:23.359 --> 00:32:28.559
Oh boy, absolutely, I think that's that's good advice. Jeff.

711
00:32:29.240 --> 00:32:34.039
It has been a extremely interesting account that you you

712
00:32:34.160 --> 00:32:35.599
shared with us, and I want to say thank you

713
00:32:35.720 --> 00:32:38.599
for coming on the show. If you had the chance

714
00:32:38.759 --> 00:32:42.240
to experience something like this again or to maybe get

715
00:32:42.319 --> 00:32:45.160
a better view of one of these creatures. Is that

716
00:32:45.319 --> 00:32:51.680
something that you would want to go towards having happen

717
00:32:52.079 --> 00:32:53.480
or not so much.

718
00:32:54.960 --> 00:32:59.000
To be well, there's the curiosity to see you know.

719
00:32:59.160 --> 00:33:01.000
I guess it's like people like climb into a cage,

720
00:33:01.039 --> 00:33:02.240
you go see a great white shark.

721
00:33:02.839 --> 00:33:03.960
You know, it's like that.

722
00:33:04.400 --> 00:33:07.359
You know, there's the anticipation of the of the event

723
00:33:07.400 --> 00:33:09.559
and the action. Then you get the actual event if

724
00:33:09.599 --> 00:33:13.079
this thing comes bumping at you or whatever the sides.

725
00:33:12.839 --> 00:33:14.839
Instead of breaking a branch throwing a rock.

726
00:33:14.920 --> 00:33:17.599
You know, there's a there's a curiosity to know more

727
00:33:17.640 --> 00:33:20.119
about them. But at the same time as that is

728
00:33:20.160 --> 00:33:22.000
that underlying It's kind of like most of the stuff

729
00:33:22.000 --> 00:33:24.400
in the appellation is that beauty side of things, in

730
00:33:24.519 --> 00:33:27.279
that nostalgia. But at the same time you keep your

731
00:33:27.319 --> 00:33:29.680
mind about you. You know, it's kind of I'm up

732
00:33:29.720 --> 00:33:32.319
on the fence about that one. I don't think i'd

733
00:33:32.359 --> 00:33:34.319
want to run into one at night again, I can

734
00:33:34.359 --> 00:33:37.119
tell you that much. Maybe from about two mile distance

735
00:33:37.160 --> 00:33:42.519
with a zoom lands that makes any sense, absolutely, Yeah,

736
00:33:42.880 --> 00:33:45.039
that was a little too close, too close for comfort

737
00:33:45.079 --> 00:33:45.279
for me.

738
00:33:46.039 --> 00:33:46.880
Yeah, I would.

739
00:33:47.160 --> 00:33:51.759
I would say so as well this experience. Did you

740
00:33:51.920 --> 00:33:54.880
notice anything out of the ordinary happening in your home

741
00:33:55.440 --> 00:33:59.200
after you got back from this experience over the years.

742
00:34:00.799 --> 00:34:03.039
Other than I sat down and started writing down everything

743
00:34:03.119 --> 00:34:05.920
I could about it, and then, you know, I think

744
00:34:05.960 --> 00:34:06.319
I had to.

745
00:34:06.400 --> 00:34:07.799
I had to find a sense of humor.

746
00:34:07.880 --> 00:34:10.559
But well, we once we got over the initial show,

747
00:34:10.599 --> 00:34:12.800
we started to try to find a sense of humor

748
00:34:12.800 --> 00:34:15.079
about it. So like I wrote a song called Bigfoot,

749
00:34:15.159 --> 00:34:18.440
leave Me Alone, let Me Go Home, and that's that's.

750
00:34:18.679 --> 00:34:21.480
That's about all I could say about that. They you know,

751
00:34:21.559 --> 00:34:24.159
it's trying to make leavit, you know, because it's like

752
00:34:24.199 --> 00:34:25.800
I had to fall back on the stuff my years

753
00:34:25.840 --> 00:34:26.800
of working as a paramatic.

754
00:34:26.840 --> 00:34:27.639
When you see some of the.

755
00:34:28.440 --> 00:34:31.320
Darker sides of humanity and and and and deal with

756
00:34:31.440 --> 00:34:34.039
some of the more traumatic things, you know, you you

757
00:34:34.480 --> 00:34:36.519
you try to find a sense of humor or try

758
00:34:36.599 --> 00:34:38.880
to find a way to process and then move on,

759
00:34:39.320 --> 00:34:43.519
you know, or some surrounded by of course, I'm surrounded

760
00:34:43.559 --> 00:34:44.280
by force.

761
00:34:44.079 --> 00:34:47.840
So yeah, exactly the area where you're at, there's a

762
00:34:48.239 --> 00:34:53.119
pretty much force everywhere. Before we do close out our

763
00:34:54.199 --> 00:34:56.519
our interview. I want to make sure just to double

764
00:34:56.639 --> 00:34:59.079
check was there anything else that you wanted to share

765
00:34:59.360 --> 00:35:03.280
regarding this account or anything that might be related to it.

766
00:35:05.800 --> 00:35:09.559
That's you know, that's pretty much Jeremi. I mean, yeah,

767
00:35:09.760 --> 00:35:11.679
it's good talking to you about it. You know, it

768
00:35:11.760 --> 00:35:13.679
always feels good to talk about it and explain it,

769
00:35:13.800 --> 00:35:16.599
you know, without you know, trying to sound like you

770
00:35:16.679 --> 00:35:19.000
know you, you know, trying to you know, trying to

771
00:35:19.079 --> 00:35:20.920
keep it, you know, level ahead about it the way

772
00:35:21.039 --> 00:35:22.920
way it happened and and everything.

773
00:35:23.000 --> 00:35:25.679
That's that. Yeah, thank you absolutely.

774
00:35:26.000 --> 00:35:28.679
If there's anything that I can ever do to help,

775
00:35:28.840 --> 00:35:31.880
feel free to reach out and thank you for coming

776
00:35:31.920 --> 00:35:34.719
on the show to chat today.

777
00:35:35.320 --> 00:35:39.239
Jeff, Yeah, thank thank you as well. Jerema you have

778
00:35:39.320 --> 00:35:39.920
a good day.

779
00:35:40.360 --> 00:35:42.159
You as well. Just wanted to take a few minutes

780
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three encounters from Oakridge, Oregon or the surrounding area. Number

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795
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after the Mount Saint Helens eruption. Number five. Individuals that

796
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have had a bigfoot encounter well in the military. Number

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six those that have had a bigfoot encounter in the

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southern New Hampshire or north central Massachusetts area, including Franklin County, Massachusetts.

799
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Number seven individuals that have had a bigfoot encounter in

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a Bible camp or boy Scout camp setting eight individuals

801
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that have had bigfoot try to enter their house forcibly

802
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803
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actively have a bigfoot living on their property. And lastly,

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any sightings that are in the watchitat National Forest Area

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