It Stood There Watching Through the Window: 20 Years with Sasquatch in Idaho!

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0:57 Oh fine, fine, fine, How are you? It's hot here in Utah? It's not too bad in Iowa. I'm in Central Iowa, and we're actually we are kind of chilled out for a little bit. You know, it's doable to walk around. But I've seen, you know, out in Oregon, they were having one hundred plus temps out there. It's pretty wild. But yes, yes, it's one hundred degrees at my property in North Idaho, and usually it's not like that. Maybe like two weeks it's in the high temperatures and then after that it's usually you know, at night, it gets pretty cool. So that's what's. Nice, Cindy. I got to start at where I usually start with these is So what got you into this wild Sasquatch adventure to begin with?

1:46 So when I was when I was young, I don't know, I was probably seven or eight. I saw the Patty Gimblin film and I was living in I was born and raised in Texas, in South Texas. When I was little, I saw the film, and I don't know how I saw it or where I thought my father took me to see it, but I don't really remember that that stuck with me forever. I grew up in Laredo, Texas, and also in South Padrea Island and Harlan, gen That's where I was raised. My grandparents did have a family branch somewhere in Laredo on the border there.

2:35 But that movie just stuck with me, and I remember never liking to be in any kind of woods growing at like subconsciously not realizing it was tied to that. I didn't I realize that like when I started researching and everything was connecting, but as I. As I grew up, I didn't even think about until years later when I was in my thirties, married, living in East Texas, basically east of Dallas, at. The beginning of what I think they call the piny woods, because in East Texas they have different units or different national forests.

3:18 That make up what they call it the Big Thicket. So that is how I started, but or the first thing that got my interest. But it wasn't until way later in life that I became involved. When the Internet poured around in the nineties, like ninety seven or ninety six, when we got the internet, I just I don't know. I typed in Sasquatch books that one. Day and around nineteen eighty eight, I mean nineteen ninety eight, Sorry, I just found some people well, and I was horrified because at that time I was living in East Texas out in the country on acreage, and we had horses, and I was very active outside and I had two.

4:15 Children, well one my other son came later, and I just. Could not believe it that they were actually in East Texas and actually where I was living around that part. But that's what got me started. Basically, that's interesting what an area to kind of be introduced into it that East Texas area has some wild wild things happened? Did they ever actually come to where your property is? I know this. Sometimes they're drawn to horses and there can be some interactions that happened there. Yeah. So so I hooked up with a lot of people, and some of them are known, which I won't say their names because I don't know if because where I ended up where I'll get to later, I don't think that they would share the same view, so I don't want to use their names. But I hooked up with different people and this one guy I can use his name.

5:22 His name is Luke Gross. He is out of Northeast Texas and he has a ton of experience with these. Beings and he taught me how. To just go out in the woods and just he is really the first person that introduced me to the topic, and he's very patient. I was. I also met other people through him. I think at that time he had founded the him and Craig Woolheater had founded the Texas That's at Research. Center, So that was in its infancy. Like I was only there briefly because I. Had met some other people that I ended up researching with every single month for a couple of years, like up until two thousand and three. And what happened is that we I was living in East Texas and I started to go out into the field with different people.

6:18 And this group of people that I went out with two of these these guys grew up on ranches with these beings on their ranches, like their grandfathers, you know, called them. There's a term in the South biggers. There's there's another topic. But these guys lived on ranches and their grandfathers told them about these you know, these sasquatches out in the woods. And then the area that I spent a lot of time in was boyk In Springs in East Texas, and I think that's in the Angelina National Fort.

7:03 I could be wrung. And so I have heard every sound I have heard every grunt, every growl. And we spent many nights there and we would do the typical thing of going out in the daytime, and we would go to a lot of the same places over and over to study them. So Boyk and Springs is one place that I went. And other times me and my husband and would go horseback riding. So we would trailer air horses too, areas like East Texas or the Big Thicket, sorry, Southeast Oklahoma. Like I could just I could do one whole hour.

7:51 Is talking about those two places. So in nineteen ninety seven, the guy who shoot our horses said, there's this place too, like three hours north of here, Southeast Oklahoma, calls to Tallahena and Honob, I say it, Honob, So that's not the right way to say it. And he said, I go riding up there with a group of people, and yoas should come. My husband said, I think we got family there in Tallahena. So eventually we went up to go. Meet my husband's family. He had an anth She was a real estate agent and everybody knew or she was a broker in Tallahena. So we went to go check out the area and we did not take out horses.

8:45 It was just me and my husband. We spent a couple of nights at his family and then we did camp out, like one night out in honob And I will never forget. This is before I got like really famous with the Bigfoot festival. I will never forget that little Honobia Creek store there. There was a little post office in there. We would just stay like in that area up in the mountains there. But in nineteen ninety seven we were camping out. We had no horses, and we were just checking out the area to see if it was a place we would like to return to bring out. Horses, because the guy who shoot our horses said that every October like a hundred of them go for equestriane camping and for riding for like a whole week. So we were checking it out, trying to kill two birds with one stone or however that's saying goes. So there we are camping and all of a sudden we heard this like ambulance noise, a woman screaming. It was a how of a combination of things, And I said, what the heck is that?

10:00 Because we're up in the mountains, like, what is that? And I said, that can't be an ambulance. I mean, we're way up here in the mountains, and my husband goes, I don't think that's an ambulance, and he's that's military, so he's always packing. So I wasn't too worried about it. But that actually was a siren call what I call a siren call that I would hear many many times in Southeast Oklahoma. So ninety seven before I even started researching, because that was like a year and a half later. So everything ties together with my journey up. I mean every little thing, like there's no accidents. So meanwhile I started researching in East Texas with these people, these these two guys that grew up on ranches, and there was other females there, and we profer areas over and over, and some of these people had night vision and different pieces of equipment.

11:08 And I have heard t. Rex sounds well, but I say a t rex like a roar of is how I describe it from far off. Of the distance, like in two thousand and two, two thousand and three, two thousand and two thousand and one. I mean, all these years I spent out in the Big Thicket and in Southeast Oklahoma, and I have had close encounters. When I say a encounter, it's not always a visual. Encounter can be something of whether it's in close proximity of we know there's something there. And if you if you are having.

11:55 The same things happen, like the same sounds, if you start seeing the same thing in the woods, like structures, but you don't. Have a visual, I still call that a encounter. And ninety nine percent I'm pretty sure it is a bigfoot or because they all have the similar qualities. But without having a visual, so I guess you can argue, well, you know something is there. So I had a visual in East Texas at a place we would go horseback riding, Sulfur Springs I think is where it was at, and that's actually not too far from Lake Tawakney.

12:37 We have property out there and at the time, that's where I was living with my husband's family. There is multiple houses on this property and they are still there today. So from ninety nine to two thousand and three, I went to all these areas and I had different encounters that there was one encounter that happened in. Boykined Springs and I was with this group. Of people and we had a exciting, weird night. And I've had to ask some of my friends that were there what happened.

13:24 What happened because I was with my friend at that time, her name was Kelly, and we were with this group of people and that night, me and Kelly were in the woods. It was probably late and late, like maybe midnight or after, and then there was other team members also out in the woods listening, kind of doing their own thing, whether that's looking through night vision or just listening or you know whatever. Well, this one night, I was just like frozen. Some people call that infra infrasound.

14:07 I don't know, but one of the people that was there, I think he used to work for NASA. I'm not sure, but he was talking about this in the nineties, about infrasound, and he could explain it to you numbers, I mean everything, like I can't do that, And it really didn't land. Like I didn't really comprehend at that time. I just knew something happened and I was frozen, and that multiple times. There have been many. Events, and that was all I needed to know. And so on this one night, I was frozen. I could not move and it seemed like it was for minutes, but I'm sure it was for only seconds.

14:49 Big for Society will be right back after these messages. But when I tell you I could not move, I could not move. I was trying to look at my friend Kelly, and she was lit up like a big light. It's hard to explain. Her whole outliner of her body was like lit up. And then all of a sudden, I was released, and I remember falling to my knees and then I got up and I was like, what happened?

15:36 And at one point one of. The guys said that there was a lot of them out there in the woods, and also that night, I think there was more people that had come along, And this is part of what I think I've blocked out. There was more people there that night than was supposed to be. So it was time to go, and we all got in the vehicles and I was in one truck. There was this one guy and his dog and another guy, and then I think I was, uh, there was maybe one. Two, three, four. So the way that we came in it was not blocked. This happened at Boyk and Springs and I forgot. I think the pond is called it's not called Kelly's Pond, Sexton Pond. I don't know. I would have to look it up. But that was something nothing has ever happened to me like that. It was energetic, it was supernatural. It did not hurt me, but I was clear clearly frozen, and then I was released. I could feel it, and I don't know why.

16:50 My friend that I was looking at she also got affected. I don't remember if she couldn't move, but I know I couldn't. And I remember that when we all left, someone said it's time to go, and. There was I think there was. They were looking through their night vision and they could see multiple beings in the woods. And when we left, the entryway was blocked off, and I know they got out and cleared it. And that's really all that I remember from that night. I do know that one chased one of my colleagues to his truck.

17:31 And I think it took a swap at him, or it chased him to the truck. I think it happened that night. That could have. Happened on a different night, but that night, other things happened to other people, and they've actually talked about it on podcasts and after that I did not go back into the woods. For a couple of months. And then in two thousand and two, I became pregnant with my second child, and I was out in Oklahoma researching up until like seven and a half. Men'ths eight months being pregnant, and finally, you know, I just obviously I couldn't go out into the field.

18:14 And then around that time my. Husband was active duty and I had been researching like maybe five years now. My mentality at that time was that I never believed that they were a running around in the woods. Instinctively, instinctively I knew that, and I knew that they were flesh and blood. That was because that is what I was taught. That is how the group of people felt, I think. And so my husband got transferred to North Idaho to run the the unit of the motor pool, I think, is what you call it.

19:06 So I had quit my career and. We moved up north, and I was going to be done researching because at that time I thought they were aggressive, and now I don't think that today. I think there's different types, But because of what I had experienced first in the field, I didn't. Think any differently. I just thought that a lot of them were pretty aggressive. But I can tell you that I have been to Southeast Oklahoma and I have had multiple encounters there as well. I've been chased out on horseback where I saw something dark running to the side of me and my dog and horse just whipped around and.

19:53 My horse ran back to camp. There was a group of people that took off to go horseback writing, and my husband was one of them. I stayed back. I don't remember which horse. I think it was JJ, my paint and I don't know. We just went up this hill and the next thing I know, he just whipped around, and my dog also had sent something and I smelt something, and I can only describe it as like cinnamon. I mean, I don't. Know that smell would come back over many many times. Other people have told me maybe it's a floral smell. I have smelt the.

20:35 Ugly smell too on other occasions, so I don't know why there's different smells or if it has anything to do with the topic at all, But I just know that I noticed there was a smell when I had a encounter, and so I spent a ton of time up in Southeast Oklahoma and then after that. Happened to me in Texas, I was like going to be. Done writing, and my husband went up to North Idaho first to find a place for us to live, and I stayed. Back to train someone for my job I had. I gave notice six months and I worked in Dallas.

21:18 And my children at that time were like seven eight and no, let's see seven, and then my younger son was born, so there is a span there. And my horses, I noticed some patterns. In the mornings, I would go feed them out in the pasture and in the back of the pasture is a ton of woods. And I have been back there with the TBRC, who was Craig and Luke at that time, and we did find some things. And even years later Craig would say, hey, where is that area back of your property? I'm going to take some people back there. So there was some happening in the back of our ranch there in East Texas.

22:04 But I did notice that my horse's manes were kind of messed up, and I don't want. To say it was braided. Some people called it a braid or which is not. But I know what a typical knot is because we had bar byer I hated the bar byer, but these were different. But what was disturbing was the tails. The hair was parted their tails like something would part their tails. We've had three horses to nine horses at various times, so we would explore that. Later people would have these guys that grew up on ranches. I had a opinion.

22:46 One of them had an opinion about it, which is pretty disturbing. However, my horse was fine. He was not traumatized. I don't think so. So I did notice that. But we really explore until I had moved to Idaho and the same thing was happening there. So that is my I guess, my. Version of what happened to me starting out in East Texas and Oklahoma. So eventually my husband did find a home, and I specifically told him no house in the woods because we were hauling three horses up there, and there was still a couple of horses left that were my other family members. So it was like May, No, it was February or March. He found a home and he sent me the picture. It was on six acres and it's beautiful up there.

23:40 But the problem was is that it was in the woods, and I just was. I just said no, keep looking, and he said, well, there's really nothing left. This is what we can afford. Because we still had our our home in East Texas that we had to figure out what we were going to do with because obviously we couldn't affordeen mortgages and I was quitting my career, so things were going to be tight. So he put an offer down on the house and they accepted it and I arrived up at North Idaho with our horses. It took us four days to get up to North Iideoho.

24:24 Cindy, this is an incredible story so far. I mean, you've been, You've hit all the places that people that are in the Bigfoot like they want to go to the East Texas to Southeast Oklahoma. And maybe I'm just talking for myself there, but you know, you're talking about that horse incident. And I've also taken reports like that from Southeast Iowa as well. It is a little unsettling, specifically Van Buren County. There's a lot of things that seem to be going on there. But when you were in Southeast Okaholma, and I guess this could be anywhere.

25:05 Was there ever a time where something happened to you. You were involved with a situation with a sasquatch where it just it got very intense. You're like, you know, at the point where if I could just get out of here right now, just time to go. Well, I can talk about the Hanobia incident, the Siege of Honobia, if you want me to a little bit. So, I mean, I really don't know anything about your history at all. Were you involved with the siege a Honobia? No, I just was in the area writing all the time at the time that that happened, I think it was two thousand.

25:50 But my aunt knew. My aunt knew that family, and she speaks very highly of them. So what how end is that we were going up to Oklahoma at least every couple of months to ride. In October, my husband was there for like a month. But we would go there obviously like in fall when it was cooler, and you know, I know we've gone in summer a couple of times, so my aunt, you know, sometimes we would leave the horses that at. Camp and somebody would stay at camp and I might stay at camp. Then my husband would drive to tallahe nan see his aunt and then vice versa. Then I would go because someone would have to stay with the horses, and if we were with a team of people, then we could both go. So the story that happened the Siege of Honobi Honobi involved a family where these Sasquatches were coming to their property and the children had seen them, and.

27:00 There was you know, these are just regular guys that are smart. They're not a bunch of dumb hicks that others have, you know, or this organization I guess that came in, that BFRO came in and tried to help them. I know, I've read the bfro's story. Anyone can go read it and it's a great story. But you know, these are people that are hunt. They hunt, they have jobs, good jobs, and they have children, they have lives just like anyone. So they were living on this property and the Sascatches were coming in and they were they were a problem, and they were this family just wanted them gone. They did not want them to be researched.

27:55 They wanted them gone, you know, like they they are, like I said, So they reached out to the BFROO who came in and they took their report, and you know, it got to a point to where these two brothers. One of them shot one and then I mean it went out and I know there's more to the story. I'm actually friends with one of the brothers and he just doesn't They don't want to talk about it, and they were put through the ring or basically possibly because how the whole thing was handled. I don't know, but I know they were not happy with how it was handled.

28:47 You know, everybody's got opinions, but I don't blame them. How you know, people just want to be left alone when you reach out to someone for help, and then you know, people come out and they want to study them, dissect whole situation, you know. So I wasn't there, but I can't tell you that it's a true story, and you know, people have opinions about it. My aunt called me and said, hey, I really don't want you, you know, like, have you heard about what's happening out here? And I'm like, what are you talking about now? I had started researching when we were going out there. I was fully aware of what was happening out there. But she had a conversation with one of the family members, one of the wives. I don't remember who which wife it was, but she told me the.

29:46 Story or some of the story, and she said that she totally believed them, and then I think it was hyped up or something. I don't know the story. It is just you know, it's unfortunate, how you know, something more positive didn't come out of it, but I think it was positive on another note, So yes, that is a true story. And I guess there was a lot of friction there with the bf for the BFRO that had come in. I know Matt money Naker has done a lot of work. On his site. His site was one of the first ones up. It has brought a lot of awareness to the topic.

30:33 Big for society will be right back after these messages. I can totally, you know, get that. So I don't know, but you know, I wasn't there, so I really can't say yes or no about anything. So you know, it's it's just unfortunate that they had to kill one. But it was it was coming around and banging on their house, scaring the family members and then that happened, and it's it's unfortunate, but I mean, if you know, they were protecting themselves. Some people said that they asked for it, but I don't think so.

31:28 But that's just my opinion. You know again, I wasn't there. These are upstanding people. So anyway, as far as that whole topic goes, I was there writing, like all the time I have had something, something's happened to me. Where I told you. We had gone up writing and we were with a group of people and sometimes some of us would stay back, and like my worst was almost a perfect horse where anyone could ride. And I looked high and. Low for this horse because I had a questry an accident I think in nineteen ninety seven, and I refused her get back on another horse. I was dragged by a horse.

32:13 And I had to roll under the I broke my foot, and yeah, it was this horrible experience. So it took me a long time to find my horse, like maybe six months, and my husband would bring home a horse that he thought would be good for me, which it doesn't work like that. You have to find your own horse to ride, you have to bond with, you have to find the animal that's right for you. Anyone who rides might tell you that. So we were up there in October and my end had called me in. That was when I had She had said, hey, you don't need to be riding up here.

32:56 Well actually I don't know what month it was, but when we would go up there riding as a group, so I did not go. I said I would stay back, and I took my horse up this one way and I think it was jaj the horse that I found, and we went up, me and my dog, who was part coyote, a really really good dog. She was walking next to me. And then I got to the top of this hill and I don't know what happened. I just smelt like the smell and then my horse's flank started ticking, which clearly is a something is happening. He whipped around, and my dog just took off down over logs. And when I got down to camp, I mean I just let him run and he took me back to camp and.

33:52 There was this chalk top. I think it was trac top person that was there, and I did not know who they were, but I remember that he said something to me, and I think that we took we took my horse down into the creek. If I'm correct. That was a crazy day. My horse was fine eventually, But so that is why I don't know about like. If they're messing with the horses with the remains entails, because I've seen that up while we're camping, when we have tied our horses up, like I've seen the remains like right.

34:32 Outside, because we had this big horse trailer. So we would sleep on the horse trailer and the horses were tied up right through in the back, and I would wake up and you know, there would be footprints, and you know, I'm like, okay, we I didn't hear a sound. And then another time I was camping with not with a group. It was just me and my husband and I don't know if we had a horse's I don't know. We did not, so it was my husband and me and my older son. My younger son wasn't born yet, so we were in. Our tent and my husband always has a big. Rifle and a pistol or something. So we were asleep at night and I was on cock. We only had one cock. I'll never forget this. Around midnight, I could.

35:22 Hear the holls and it started like at two o'clock, and then later like at two hours later. It was like at six o'clock. And then I sat straight up in bed because they came that close. They were howling. And my husband, who is not into this topic, but he does believe, he just doesn't care to talk about it. He doesn't go out with me researching. He has heard things. And he has had a visual what I believe, which I will tell you because it actually happened there in southeast Oklahoma. And I will tell you that after because I was pregnant in two thousand and two. So this night, while we were camping, this was in the earlier two thousands, I had already been researching and.

36:18 They started going off, so I knew exactly what was happening. But then I noticed that they were surrounding us, but not aggressively, just like hey, we're here. But still it was freaking me out a little bit. And at one point my husband sat straight up and he got out of the tent and he opened up the truck because at my our truck was going it was dinging, it was going Dan ding ding, And he pulled out his big rifle, and you know, I could hear him like check out, and then he closed the door and he was standing out there for a little bit, and then I didn't say anything. Then he came back to bed, and I got no sleep.

36:58 That night and then it was six am and it was I think it was still dark and or it was getting like daybreak, and I could hear them like that was the final. All night long they were going off. I got no sleep that night. And I remember falling asleep around six or six thirty am, and I didn't wake up till like nine because I remember it was sunshiny and I was like, oh my gosh, I looked at the time. I will never forget that night. Now. There was no visual that night, but there was. I know what those sounds are. I mean, that was the typical sirens sound howls going in circling us all night long. They never came in too too close.

37:46 And then eventually they were off in the distance and it was daybreak and that was that and I was done. I was done. That was it. I was not going to go back there. I don't think that this. I think that this was before the Honobia incident. Another time when we were there, I had to go get my inhaler and I think where we parked, I had to hike through. The woods a little bit. And I don't know why that is, because normally we'll park like where we set up camp, but I remember I had to hike through the woods to get my inhaler from my truck, and we did. I think we had a horses there at that time, and something was following me in the woods, like flanking me. I stopped.

38:32 It stopped, and I knew exactly what was happening, because by this time I was deep into research and. I wasn't too afraid. I think, I really don't remember that something was definitely there. There was no visual, but I could feel something was there. I could hear it, something walking next to me. And I opened up my truck, I got my inhaler, and I walked back to camp. But I don't think that they followed me back. I don't remember, but I know that when I did go to my truck that I was hearing noises. So I've had many different encounters there. And I did reach out to one of the brothers and I said, hey, my aunt knows your family.

39:19 But at that time it was very raw and they were not even opened. You know, he didn't know me, and. So he wasn't exactly receptive to me wanting to talk to him, and I totally get it. So I think it was later that you. Know, we were able to message back and forth and I said, hey, my aunt knows your family, and I said, my aunt, she's a broker here in Tallahena, and so you know, she completely said this is true, and so they. Just got a they just had a bad receptive to it, I think, in my opinion, even though the BFUR did.

40:04 Do a pretty good report, but I don't think that. I mean, obviously they don't. You know, they weren't. This family was not happy with or at least I know one of the brothers that I know was not happy. So it's not like we're close friends or anything, but I do know that, you know, that is how they felt or I mean, I can't speak for them, but that did, you know, have a very unsettling feeling with me. So those so those are some of the. Encounters in Southeast Oklahoma. Another time, this is the last Well, no. I forgot. I was going to tell you my husband's encounters.

40:46 So in two thousand and two, I got pregnant and my husband left East Texas with two friends and hauled our horses up to Southeast Oklahoma. I stayed home. I couldn't ride. I was bigger than a house I think I was like eight months pregnant and I had just come back from a research trip, and yeah, there was no way. So they were writing. They were writing this pathway. And then the path went to the trail went to the left, and when it curved to the left, our two friends were ahead, and then my husband was last. And then there was like a fire break that went straight up in the mountain. And when he went around the curb, something was standing there on two legs. I remember he said it was he could see a third standing.

41:33 He said it was not a bear, and it wasn't a it wasn't a deer, and it was black and white. I think it was gray or it was. I totally forgot about the color. But he saw what he saw. He didn't say it looked like his sasquatch. He didn't even mention the word. But what happened is that I stayed home, and that the next when they when they returned home, our friend Joe came in the house and he said, hey, something happened. Your husband saw something. And so my husband told me the story. But he said, I'm going to tell you this one time, because he knew I was going to get excited because I wanted him to have the encounter because I was going out so much that and.

42:21 With his schedule being active duty military. I mean it was I was obsessive, obsessive about the topics starting out. So he was not exactly happy with me, and I mean he just yeah, So his outlook on this, he was very annoyed. He really doesn't to this day he really cared to talk about the topic, even though all these things have happened. So my husband did have that encounter. He told me the story and I wrote it down and. That was so that was basically his encounter. Another time we were out in the somewhere in East Texas.

43:02 It was not Southeast Oklahoma as far as Southeast Oklahoma goes. I spent so much time there writing and just camping there and going to visit family and having multiple different experiences. Like I said, you know, an encounter doesn't necessarily include a visual. I've heard every single sound there. One time we were there with the group and at night time there was like eighty of us there and I don't know what year this was, but it had to have been sometime from ninety nine to two thousand and three. So this one night we were all playing music. Somebody was playing their guitar, and then we would play games, and there was this one guy who would give me so much. He would give me such a hard time about the top.

44:00 So I was like, okay, well, you know, I'll show you so because we were playing this game and there was a question that involved SaaS quats, and of course I raised my hand and I said the answer. And then you know, some of the guys were giving me a heard time, but this one guy just rubbed me the wrong way. And I don't remember what his name was. But later that night I did make some calls. I don't do that today, I mean, not really, but at that time, again my mentality was that they were flesh and blood only and there were something, you know, not a necessarily not necessarily an ape, but they were some type of species. So when we were in bed later that night, I think I had made a call earlier.

44:50 And then it was sometime in the early morning that you could hear them coming in. We were sleeping in the good snack about horse. Trailer and you could hear, I mean, and they were shrieking, and they got closer, and then it every I mean people came out of their tents. I think it was close to dawn, and I was like, oh my god, but I hope I didn't do that. My husband looked at me, and then from that point on he said, would we go camping? No bigfooting stuff. So on some days we would ride, like fifty of us would ride, and there would be a jeep in the back with drinks and food. And some days I would ride like thirty miles or thirty five miles, and then I would stay back at camp so if someone else could use my horse, and then you know, I would stay with my child and I would help watch other children possibly. So I spent a ton of time up there.

45:49 And you know, this is before that area even became you know, like famous or would like it is today big. For society will be right back after that these messages. So my husband had that encounter, and so I was really really happy. Now going back to the big Thicket. We would trailer our horses there, me and him, and we would take our horse trailer. We would sleep inside the goose neck. Our horse trailer was like thirty feet long.

46:33 And by this time I had done a time. I mean I had spent thousands of hours out in the woods. I had seen it all, done it all, you know. I had seen all kinds of structures, tepees, big tps. In East Texas we would find a lot of small tepees like I don't even see that up in North Idahoma where I live now, But in East Texas we would like this one day down a whole bunch of small tps like maybe two feet high, and they were destroyed the next day. And I think someone had gone to talk to one of the park rangers. I could be wrong, but I didn't go talk with a park ranger.

47:15 But the TV's were like destroyed the next day because I remember people went to go look to research because there were other things that had been found also. I don't know if that was a trackway or prints or if there was some other interesting structures, but they had gone back to this area and they did discover where a lot of this stuff had been destroyed. Who did it, we don't know. I think there were some footprints that had that had been like scratched out, you. Know, very very interesting. I spent a lot of time in the Sam Houston National Forest as. Well, but Boykin Springs is for some reason. I remember that area quite a bit because that's where I had that encounter where I was frozen, and I didn't go back into the woods for a while. This one trip, we went somewhere. I don't remember where we went, but me and my husband went. We took both of our horses, my horse JJ. My husband had a thoroughbread and we got there in the evening time and he made a fire. I said, hey, can you make a fire?

48:26 I think it was fall because it was a little chilli And he said, well, yeah, but I mean, you know, like it's like we're going to stay out here and enjoy us. Because I was really bad about Okay, I'm going to bed, but there was always people there to hang out with them, you know, to enjoy the fire. But this night he had made the fire and we were sitting sitting around. I was laying against my saddle. Our horses had been tied up in the back of the trailer. They had been fed, watered everything. They were tied up in the back of the trailer and it was dark, and all of a sudden I hear the most beautiful choir of.

49:11 I hate to say a how because that sounds animalistic, but it was. It was with human components to it. And when I say human components, because it sounded different octaves, you could I mean, they were going. I can't even mimic it to you, but let me just say it's like the cyben sound, which on different octaves, and you could tell which one was more male, and then you could hear the feminine the feminine ones. And let me tell you what we were in the middle of forest.

49:57 I don't know what group of choir beings would be out there, but I could tell you one thing. It wasn't humans, or at least It's really hard to describe. But I looked at my at my husband and I said, what the heck is that? He goes, Oh my god, are you serious? I was like, listen, He's like what, who cares? Because he knew what was coming. I was going to get scared, and sure enough, fifteen minutes later, I said, well, okay, no, I'm good, I'm going inside. It was dark, the fire was roaring, and it was big. He stayed outside for a little bit. I did open the door so.

50:39 I could enjoy the fire, and he had his pistol out so I wouldn't be afraid, like I look back now and I just rolled my eyes, thinking, golly, what you know now? So that choir sound went until sometime in the morning, because I know I fell asleep. I wasn't so scared that I said let's go. So the next day when we woke up. Our horses were gone, and let me tell you what, they were tied up with good knots. Both of them were gone, and my husband went to get them. I think a truck passed by and picked them up. And he came back the lead ropes were still on them.

51:23 He brought JJ and Ila back. Aila is his thoroughbread, and I thought, how how did that happen? So we rode for the rest of the day, and I remember feeling like I was never alone. I was always in back of my husband. I don't know why he always went first, probably because there was a lot of like down trees and so it was kind of hard. In fact, it was annoying. It was hard to ride because we would try to take like trails and then they would end because the forest was or we had to get back on the main logging road.

52:05 And in East Texas that read a dirt. Let me tell you what, I love that red dirt. I love East Texas. It will always be a part of me. But on this night. The next day I didn't even bring it up. I knew better and we went home. But I will never forget that night. That's just one of many different encounters that I've had just there in East Texas. So the year two thousand and three came and my husband had put in a request and his unit that he was in he did retention and recruiting. My husband had taken a break from after Clinton was in office in ninety after Desert Storm, he took off like six years, so he got back in in ninety eight, and then that was when.

52:53 He was a recruiter I think for like a year or two, and then he we wanted to move him Antana. We took a trip to Montana and we hauled our horses I think like in two thousand and two, and we went to Augusta, Montana. There's this ranch out there called Sun Canyon Lodge, and my husband helped some of the the wranglers take some of the supplies out to the back country because he's a good horseman, and so they they knew is there. I think we had gone like the second time. So on this trip he went riding and he took he helped take some of the supplies.

53:37 I stayed back with with my son. I'm trying to think if my other, my younger son was born. I don't think he was born. In fact, I might have been pregnant. So we you know, we loved Montana. So he put in a request and a request to move to Montana or however it works. There was nothing available in Montana and he got his orders to go to North Idaho. So he was Active Guard Reserve. So anyone who knows what AGR is, he was over the motor pool. Of this unit in North Idaho. It's not there anymore. They we named it. So I did not know anything about North Idaho.

54:24 And I had been researching life I don't know five or six years, and I had seen it all. I heard it all. I had some encounters. My mentality again is that they are flesh and blood. I never had any kind of caroanormal event happen. One other thing I would notice is that when some of us females were together, we used to hear like. A cooing noise like that coming from the woods. And this was mainly when there was females around, and I always picked up that that was a female doing it. Now, did I see anything? I know? A lot of people say, well. Did you have a visual how do you know it was a female? Well, because I sensed it, Well, that doesn't prove anything. Well, that doesn't matter, because I don't care what you believe. I'm not here to prove anything, even though at that time I felt like anytime I described something that I had to provide proof because that's the mentality of a lot of a lot of a lot of you know, the whole Sasquatch fields.

55:23 Today, a lot of people feel like whatever they bring to the table, they have to like back it up, which in some instances you do. But it was just very, very strange to have all these encounters and what my mentality was. And so when we moved to North Idaho, and after you know, we bought this house, my younger son was one year old and he was very sick. He was hospitalized, and I went part time. The Children's medical center was down the road from my office, and my husband was he had just got to North Idaho and he called me and he said, I'm in Wallace, Idaho.

56:07 You're not going to believe this. It is snowing. I'm on the pass. I'm like, oh yeah, But he like loves all that. He loves the snow, he loves the cloth, not me. So I was really stressed out because I had to pack, I had to get the horses ready, get the coggins ready, had to have them shoot. And I was I had a lot of mixed feelings because I, you know, didn't really want to be a military wife, but my husband had spent years in and he wanted to retire, so I wanted to support him. My own dad, who is Navy, said this is a good thing. You you should go like you'll this will be if he retires. I thought that income will be good to have down the road. So I was like okay. So he got his orders, not too much out a but to North Idaho.

56:54 Then we went through the whole thing of him find him finding a house, which he did, and he called me in two thousand and four in March and he said, we got it that you're not going to believe this. So I'm I had. Gone part time at my job now, and I said, what he said, The mountain that is in front of our home is hoodoo mountain ho of doo. I'm like, really, that's that's like a little unsettling because we have always like when we would take trips, we would see the names of place as well.

57:36 It was named that for a reason, Devil's reservoir. Why is it named devil reservoir? There is a place not too far down the road leaving Utah here where I'm at, and there's a place it's Devil's something reservoir. So every time I pass that, you know, I think, well, why is. That called that? So I have always believed most. Of the time, places like a mountain or a clique or something named like that, not a street necessarily, but a place like a mountain, Like I said, So, I said, you're kidding me. The place is called Whodo And then he said yes. So he got the paperwork and everything to our place, the keys and everything, and the guy who had built it was not done cleaning up some of the.

58:29 Stuff outside, and my husband said, that's totally fine, we'll get it. So the real estate agent two days later called my husband and said, hey, somebody wants to. Make an offer on your house. And it was like sixty thousand more than what we bought it, and the other real estate agent said, I didn't see this house on the MLS, and I'm like, well, that's weird because when I was in my office and I did a search for it, I couldn't find it either. So I had my husband send me pictures because I couldn't find it on the MLS. But it was there. So I just find that really weird that this house never sold until we bought it.

59:15 And I can honestly tell you that was meant to be. I was meant to go there, to have lived this last twenty years on this property and everything that has happened to us. I will never forget that. There was no explanation why these other real estate people could not see this house on the MLS. But when it was closed, guess what it popped up When the deal was done. It was showing up on the MLS, like shut the front door for real. That still give me, That still gives me goosebumps. So this person made an offer, I mean, my husband called me. I'm like, well you can't. We need a place to live because there was no play.

59:58 Everything was getting so expensive. We got our house for six acres and a beautiful brand new home, no shop for under one hundred and fifty. And I'm telling you what, this was some weird stuff. I got everything ready. My husband came down. In May or June, loaded up the three horses, which was my quarter horse, stayj A, the horse that was very tame, and then my husband's my husband's thorough Brud. She was over sixteen hands, maybe seventeen. She was a big horse. She was a islight. And then we had a Pallomina quarter horse.

1:00:41 Big for society. Will be right back. After these messages. We named her Philly. We never really named her anything, so Philly just stuck because when we got her, she was a Philly, so that name kind of just stuck. So it took us four days to go up there. And my younger son, like I said, he was eighteen months at this time, and he had been really sick from. January until like April with this weird rope. I think they called it the rotavirus. I don't remember, but we had three dogs with us.

1:01:27 When two or three dogs and I had amigo that a friend of my husband's drove up to North Idaho and then my husband of course hauled our horses up that way. And the military had come and packed up everything. And I will never forget those four days traveling how patriotic people were at that time. And you know, we stopped like in Colorado, we stopped in I think we stopped in Kansas a first night, then we stopped in maybe Colorado. Then we stopped in maybe Wyoming at one time, and then Montana and people were just really really nice. We would board our horses and then stay at a local hotel and people were just really really nice and patriotic.

1:02:13 When we got over the Montana passes, I just could not believe how beautiful it was. I had gone to a guessta Montana, but going over by ninety on these passes, I just got my whole body just got like, wow, this is so beautiful. When we got into Cordelaine, I will never forget Cordelaine Lake. It is so beautiful. And I asked my husband how much further He said about north about another forty five minutes. Oh though, oh my godsh okay. So we got to our road and I remember looking up the mountain and he said that's who do I'm like, that's really creepy.

1:02:54 He's like, yeah, I don't know, like, maybe we can see why it's called that. So my husband had lived there for a couple of months baby two months or a month and a half in the house, trying to get ready before you know, he. Drove back down to Texas to come and get us. So when we went down our road and he said, Okay, our property starts here, I could not believe it because across everything around us. Is wooded, and two of the properties across the street were all. Empty, and then the property in front across the street for me was also empty. We pulled into our driveway and the first thing I saw was these and over trees, and I, you know, as a researcher, I started thinking again like that now I had told everybody that I was going to be done researching, and I, you know, there I went started. We stopped our truck and we got down and we got our horses down, and I remember walking around the front yard and I thought, Wow, this is going to be incredible.

1:04:20 But subconsciously I had told myself that we were going to be done. I was going to be done researching. But already weeks after that, I. Found myself feeding the horses because my husband would leave early in the morning. The military came dropped our furniture off, and. I would get up really early in the morning to feed the horses, and then my husband would leave early and I would just spend time walking my woods. My horses would follow me. We had a fence that we put up really quick, and I just noticed a lot. Of different things, a ton of different structures. There was two tepe's.

1:05:05 I would put the horses up and in this one area where we had built a corral where we would like if they would get out, I would We would put them in this one area because our fence was kind of crappy and it really needed to be fixed because my husband and his friend built it really fast, so it needed some tightening up, and it needed some you know better, It needed to luck. We needed hot wire up because my horses got out a couple of times. So it's two thousand and four. I'm feeding my horses out there one morning and my young my older son is I think eight eight or nine, so I think it was two thousand and four, two thousand and four, two thousand and five, and I found footprints close to where I feed in water the horses, and my heart stopped and I looked down, and I remember there was only like one and a half prints because a ton all.

1:06:15 My places wooded, so there's a ton of pine needles that fall everywhere. So you know, the forest floor is just filled with years and years of just pine needles that have accumulated and pine comes and so. And this also was outside of the fence. The horses were on the other side of the fence. I'm walking to the fence to feed them and I see these trucks. I'm like, what the heck. And I called my son out, my older son, John, and he came out and I showed him. He's like, wow, tracks. So I got this bucket and I covered the truck. I don't know why I did that. And then we went inside. And then I think a couple of days later, I removed the bucket and it rained.

1:07:00 I didn't cast it. I didn't want to cast it. I had no desire. I never have really have really gotten into that into casting. I've done a couple, but I never really like, I guess I really never perfected it, and it just wasn't my thing. And I just I just think that's kind of weird that I never really wanted to learn that. More so, after that, there was a series of. Events that happened. I would found I would find things on the port. Yeah, my husband would sit out on our front. I have a front running port. You could see through our woods. Across the street there's Hohod Mountain. Now, when I say my street, my street is a logging road.

1:07:45 It's not like a county road. There's nothing out there. At that time, I had few neighbors. I mean there was people who left five acres over that. The property across the street it was ten acres. It was empty. The property left to that was empty. There was a lot of properties around me that were empty. So things started happening over time. Then when I heard a roar off the mountain, and then that became a normal thing. And then my children would have encounters, while my older son had a encounter and my younger son had some encounters.

1:08:27 But we're talking twenty years here, so I mean, definitely, I can't get all of that in one show. I thought The wild Stuff was going to be in Oklahoma, but it feels like things just started to really happen when you move to this place in Idaho, which is I've talked to people about northern Idaho. It's one of the places I really have no desire to go to, just because it can get very aggressive there. I don't know really, Yeah, Okay, we'll have to ask people. Yeah, okay, we'll have to come back to that. Okay, we'll have to come back to that, because I find that interesting. So the years kind of flew by. I kind of started researching my older son, I think. Okay, so my husband was army. I did family support for like a year, and then they got.

1:09:22 Called to go to Iraq. I mean, all this stuff happened, so I have to timeline things, and I can't tell you every single story, so I will try to stay on course of what happened. Anyhow, my journey started changing. So one thing that some of my colleagues did in East Texas, they went to what we called I think it was dead End Road, which is at Boykins Springs, and it used to be secret. It's not anymore, but I mean whatever. So I was not there, but one of my friends was there with another female and some other people. I don't know. I just know these two people that were there, and they parked at this one area, and you know, at that time, you would have a tape recorder and then a microphone attached to it, like back in you know, back in the day, that was how we recorded.

1:10:18 So they were at this they were parked at this dead end road, and I think one of the gals made. A distressed call and what happened afterwards would go down in history. As a matter of fact, I'm going to say her name because I used to research with her and she is smart and you've heard of night Callers radio. Absolutely, I'm pretty good friends with Laura. Okay, okay, her mom, Laurie and me used to research together back in the day. Wow. So yes, yes, but I don't like to throw people's names around because you know, I have no idea what people think of me these days. And so anyway, so on this one night, Laurie recorded these I'm you know what, Lauren even did a show about it, and I will try to go back and if I know the show she talks about that night Laurie sat there.

1:11:19 So basically one of the girls, the other girl, Crystal, made a call. I don't know if it was just a distressed call, but Lauren can tell you the story really well. And so what happened was that you could hear them from far away. They were coming, and they came in really quick and really fast, and I mean you could hear and it was like it was like I said, I'm going to stay choir, which is a group of something coming in, and you can hear them going really and then you could hear one like the alpha male or female. It was very distinct. And I was not there that night.

1:12:00 But that happened, and I don't remember the whole story. But so now I'm at in Idaho. It's October of two thousand and four. My neighbor, who had an interest in this topic, went up with me and I said, hey, I'm going to do something. I went up Hoodio Mountain. I don't know how far I went up, and I backed my part in so that I could leave pretty quick. And you know, that's one of the things I learned from one of these guys, is you know you always back up, like if you have to leave, you'll be ready to leave instead of having to like back up like a dummy and like be ready. So I parked, we got out, I made what I think was an attempt at a distressed call, and we were there for like maybe ten minutes. But my friend was really restless and she was ready to hear something, and she said.

1:12:59 Well, are we going to hear anything? I said, Susan, I don't know, Like, let's see what happens. She was kind of annoying me, so I said, okay, let's go over here. We got back in my vehicle and we went down the mountain. Now I had a. Season one legal, it was not fourible drive, so I really needed a fourible drive to go. Up to some of these other places in the mountain. But it worked for you know, it wasn't snowing yet or anything. So I came back down the mountain. I went to the other side of the mountain and I parked at the spun area that I still frequent today, and I made another call. Well this time within a couple of minutes, you could hear them all coming from where we were at, and they you could hear them all coming.

1:13:48 And then, just like what happened to Lorri in East Texas, Now they didn't go park and then move somewhere else and park again. I don't think so. But the sound of what happened is just like what happened over there, and you could hear them coming. Then you could hear like the one. I freaked myself out because my friend was like, oh right, So she freaked me out. And I think I was trying to record, but I didn't get it. And of course I wasn't really good at that, and I didn't have a lot of equipment. So I know that I was standing outside and I closed my door and I took off like that was it.

1:14:31 I started in my car, I took off down the road, and. I don't know if I went home or if I took a different route and then looped back home. And I dropped her off, and she just looked at me. Her eyes were bigger than you know, owls eyes, and she just couldn't She goes, I can't believe we experienced that because. She had heard them, how on numerous nights. So the next day, when I was up, there was some something on my front porch. I think it was a rock or something. I can't remember that. I was like, hmm, this is weird. Plus my jog was sniffing it. So after that point it was on like Donkey Kong.

1:15:15 I was actively researching, but I wasn't going natural places purposely. Big for society will be right back. After these messages, a. Word had got out and there was a report there in althal Idaho, which is just down the road for me, this officer had a encounter. He was called out on a report of something that happened there. I ended up talking to him about that event. And you know, I've worked with people. These other people called me from Priest Lake and they said, hey, we bought this cabin. You know, something is coming up to our house and hitting it. Because the word got out, like what was going on?

1:16:07 These people had bought a cabin they were living in it by a Priest Lake and they were having these weird encounters where something was slapping the house, something was getting the garbage. And so they got my phone number somehow, and they said what do we do? And I said, well, I mean, I'm no like expert or anything like that, but this is my It's been my experience from some of these some other people I've talked with, and I had even reached out to some other people and it was their suggestion to tell them to one. I had found out that the prior people that had lived there was habituating the Sasquatch out there.

1:16:51 Now these people looked yes, and then they moved and they moved, bought it no, and so like so they got my number. I think there was more involved because someone I don't know if they found footprints and so somehow. They got my phone number and I was like, okay, well, you know, now I had young children. At the time, so I couldn't just hop in my car and go because that wasn't my main priority. A lot of stuff is going on with the military, and look, I really could have cared less, I'll be honest with you. And it was like forty five minutes maybe half an hour away pre select from where I live. So I told them over the phone, listen, this is you know, don't feed them and they said, well not and that was when I found out that well, the prior people had been doing something.

1:17:36 So I'm like, okay, so this is what you do. You put out some lights around the place, like put one like I hate to tell you this, but try to put out like ten lights because they had their house is pretty big, and I was trying to see on math like what was happening. And at that time the smartphones two thousand and three were not exactly that great, like how they are today, like here a picture. You know, people are still texting all those old pones. So they never called me back. I told them, don't be feeding them. And then I think, I don't. Know if I said, well, maybe you can go out there and take like if you cook something, take something further out like pass the light and say, you know, this is our like you know, like we are not the old people that lived here. You know, please jop you know, staring as please stop, like just talk to the woods, talk to them. I don't know if I told that to them or if I was going to and I didn't. I don't remember, but like people would call me with stuff like that, and meanwhile I'm at my own home having things happen. So the year is two thousand and five, so those people never call me back.

1:18:53 But I've always wondered about those people. So it's two thousand and five. I've been there like a year, and all these things have happened. That thing on the mountain, I'll never forget that they would bring me. They would bring me gifts on my front porch or on my weight where to where I would feed the horses. They would play with our family where they would squeech out in the backwoods, where in the neighboring woods they would break limbs, they would but I never saw anything. I never saw anything at all. I think one day I was sitting on the couch and my husband was gone for the weekend because it was.

1:19:37 The where they. All gather for the weekend, the monthly guys. Even though my husband was active guard reserve, he was there full of time. The guys at the unit were not there like every single day. They would meet up once a month. So he was gone that weekend. And it was really really really bad timing. My husband's horse got collicked and she was rolling on the ground and I didn't know what to do because I had a two year old and I couldn't like walk the horse. So my other neighbor came and we tried to get a hold of my husband. So our vet. I love my vet.

1:20:20 This is how I met this guy, a vet in town. He came out and I'm thinking, oh my gosh, how much is this going to cost? Because again I'm not working. You know, we have to like, you know, budget every little thing. I can't just go splurge money like I used to in Dallas. So my neighbor was walking Ailah and walking her and walking her, and she got a band I mean shot from the vet and he did some other things. And then the next day he left me with another band I mean shot to give her, and my husband came home and she started collecking again, so the vet came out again. And then on the third day she was blown up and.

1:21:02 It was it was bad. She would need surgery. It would be seven thousand dollars. I couldn't afford that, so my husband gave her up to the town over because they would give the surgery, but we would have to give up ownership of the horse. But I think because my husband was a soldier or that they were going to try to fix her and then work something out with us. But Aila died in at the death office. And let me tell you what you want to hear a grown man cry. I will never forget that because my horse. These animals, they know, and they were not okay.

1:21:44 For a couple of days, they hung their heads. There was something in the air, and I heard some cooing from the back of the woods, and I just thought, oh my gosh, now again all of this isn't is not unusual the things I'm hearing in the woods. So that was a really, really hard time. My husband never bought a horse after that. He just rode mine and I would ride Philly because JJ and I horse was a big horse, like sixteen hands. He got bigger than what I expected. So, you know, talking about the Cooeen. My husband's unit got called to Iraq. One day we came home. We were at the base, which is in Airway Heights outside of Spokene, Washington, Washington, because if you look on a map, you'll see the top of Idaho spoke in Washington and then ride across on the Idaho border by spirit like Idaho. That's where I live, in the town of Blanchard, at the bottom of Hoodoo Mountain. So we came home and my phone rang.

1:22:52 Now my best friend to this day. I had met her around that time. She was the first sergeant's wife, and so me and her have remained friends all these years. But on this day, my husband didn't go to work. I think he took off and we went to the base for something. So my husband did not work at the base. He worked at a unit, but we did go to the base. I think we were shopping. Anyway, we came home and my phone rang and it was my friend and she goes, hey, so how do you feel. I'm like, what do you mean? She goes, well, you know, she realized I didn't know. What she was talking about. She said, it's official, and I remember my stomach, that filling in my stomach.

1:23:39 I knew what she was talking about. They were going to Iraq. I said what I said, he didn't go to work today. We went to the base. He took off, and she goes, okay, well they're going and Scott needs to talk to your husband because they are doing the phone command, the phone chain thing. No, my husband had heard and he came in and I remember I didn't slam the cabinet. I was trying to keep it together. I closed the cabinet. I don't know why I get emotional. I want to talk about this story. So stupid, but anyway, probably because being a military wife, you just have to understand that really never goes away, that filling of dread. They're going to Iraq, they are going to war. Here I am in this house in North Idaho that I refused to attach myself to because I just couldn't. I don't know why.

1:24:30 In my mind, I was going back to Texas. So I gave my husband the phone and I closed the door, and you know, to him, it's another day at the office. He already knew what the phone call was about. And I just said, I'm going to go with you the horses. It was dark. I had it in the phone. The kids were in the other room. They're young. My youngest was I think two or three, and my oldest again is eight or nine. So I went outside my backyard. I have a backyard, but it's. All wooded, and our barn was a little off to the right, and it was it's very, very dark. The light in our backyard really didn't set off a good distance of light, and I could barely see. I went to go feed the to water, you know, check on the horses.

1:25:27 And I remember I was standing there and I fed the horses and I was looking at them, and they were fine. You know. I got to a point where I would watch. My animals and their behavior, and I would see my horses made in tail and they were fine. So the theory of if something looked like they had been nest with their maine entails, which was quite often when I had them in Northideoh. It didn't. For some reason, I was I came to a point where I was fine, Yeah, I just I just I don't know. I can't, I can't do that. So they were fine. They weren't acting weird or traumatized. So I just kind of start thinking about it, and I walked behind my barn and I just tried to collect myself. And I remember I I was crying a little bit, and I heard the cooing from the back of the woods and I heard whoh, And I remember I hopped up on my legs, on my feet, and I ran.

1:26:26 To the back, like to the back porch, and my husband had hung up the phone. And then I heard a roar off the mountain, which at that time was not a big deal. And then I heard the female and I knew it was the female. She left. I could hear her leaving, and I. Went inside the house and I wanted to talk to my husband about what was going on, but the timing wasn't right. So the next couple of the next six months, the colonel will tell me, oh, he's going to buy a wrap. But see, when you're adr, it doesn't necessarily mean that you're going. Because my husband's job was to get the truths ready of the motor pool and then he would possibly be called to somewhere else. So at that time he said, I might not go. So we put our house up for sale, and we said if it sells, it sells, and we just I didn't know if he was going to Iraq or not. I had no idea. I was a hot mess.

1:27:24 I didn't feel like that could plan anything, like where are we going? And then he said, if it doesn't sell, then you'll be okay to stay here, and I said, well, I think I'm gonna. Call my mother, or maybe your mother could come and stay with us. So in the end he got transferred to West Virginia, and our house stayed empty. Our neighbors watched it, and we were going to West Virginia for a year, and then we came back. And I do have some stories for West Virginia because I lived. Off the Greenbrier River, and again I loved in the woods for a year and I would go out to the water there and I would sit and I would not let the kids go to the water, because well, one, I didn't want them falling in and going with the rapids because where we lived there, the Greenbrier River had a ton of rapids, so I had we had various strict roles. My older son was ten and my younger son was three at this time. So that year passed pretty quickly, and my husband retired, and then we came back to North Idaho basically and then he retired. But what happened after that things started to really really ramp up because we had been gone a year, and you know, life got back to normal. I started researching again.

1:28:52 When I stayed researching, I mean I spent time up on my mountain up at Peace Lake. And my husband was not happy. Though. When I say a year went by really fast, it did, but you know, he wanted to be with his guys over there in Iraq or Afghanistan. I can't remember where they went because he didn't go. I was just happy he didn't go. And that was a hard year to live with him because he kind of was not all there. He didn't want to be there. I knew he wanted to be over there overseas. But we did eventually come back to Idaho and it was oh seven. He retired the economy two thousand and eight.

1:29:38 Took a tank. As we all know, my older son, his birthday is in April. It is still cold in April. In the months of April, he wanted to have some friends over to camp out. My in laws. Were staying with us. So now it's two thousand and seven and I was hearing the same things over. We still had our horses. Big for Society will be right back. After these messages, my son had two or three friends camped out in the back of our property and they had a.

1:30:28 Fire, and the next day they came in and they said they heard something walking around and was it us? No, it wasn't us, and they thought we were playing a trick on them. So they did hear something heavy walking around at that time. So that's my older son's experience. And then he has friends who are in the area where they have kempt out, and I would hear other stories down the road that when they were camping out they would hear things. And then I have a friend who has sixty acres and her son is my son's like one of his best friends. So when they were growing up over the years, she said that they would be camping out and they would come in and say we heard something walking around.

1:31:08 And then she would tell me stories. Where now this is just a couple of acres over, well, no, it's maybe a mile down the road, so they have sixty acres. And she had a ton of stories to tell me. When she moved there in the eighties, there was nothing out there, not my house, not any of the houses that are platted out now. And she said, one day her husband was coming home from work and you have to go down this road. There was nobody was out there, just them, and he saw something dark across the road. And she said other times she would be home alone, or if the kids were small, she always carried a pistol around. She could hear them coming in. When she would be outside hanging laundry, she could hear them, and she said, Cindy, I felt them.

1:32:00 And then I noticed that it took her a little bit to open up to me. Now if she never had a visual but she told me stories. If she would do laundry and she would go outside and she could hear them, like she knew something was there. So so my older son had that happened to him, I think like in two thousand and seven. And then over the years my younger son, he's like another Daniel Boone. I think he was twelve. He asked us if he could camp out with some other friends, which he did. We allowed him to camp out at the local lake there, which is on private property. But the public, as the locals, are allowed to come in, but you have to like let them know you can't, just like the general public can come in. So as long as people respected the land, these people's three thousand and four thousand acres, then you could go on to their property and go to the lake or go hunting more or whatever. But they're you know, so people there respected that because people wanted access to that. So my younger son was camping with some friends and they took they took the four wheelers out there. Well you'd think that they would have came home or called us.

1:33:22 I'm trying to think what year that was, because I know we had cell phones. Yes, yeah, so they didn't have a phone. Because they called. So they were out there camping and then they heard something walking around in the shallow water and then they heard like a like a heavy like something big being thrown into the shallow end of the water. It made a big splash because my son told me the next morning that because they called us because the four wheelers had died, because they heard this noise and then they heard some some more crunching in the shallow end and it scared them, so they turned all the lights of the four wheeler. I think they called fish and Game or I don't know, but they called someone, not nine one one, but dispatched. They called somebody. But it was funny. I was like, why didn't you call us?

1:34:10 Like all we had to do was go down the road and come and get you. Well, they didn't call us, and my husband had to go help we start the four wheeler and they came home and then we heard about the story. I'm like, oh my gosh, seriously, this is not okay. So by this time I started working with some of the local tribes there, the quarter Laine. I have friends in the Quarterlane. I have very close family members I called my sisters in the Spokane tribe, the Colville Nation. The callis bell, And one thing I have learned from them as my journey started changing, is that you can talk to them.

1:34:52 You can take back your property. There's a way to do this. You have to respect the forest people, and I always used to think, why are you calling the forest people? Because still at this time I still had the mentality of plush and blood. But I think subconsciously some other things had happened, which I would be outside and I. Heard my name being called from the woods one time and there was nobody there. I would hear grunts and there was nothing there. Footprints would just end. There wasn't necessarily a trackway. I had found two prints underneath my window where I sleep, and then eventually there was a path made that looped from the woods underneath my window where I sleep, and it looped back into the woods.

1:35:38 That's a whole other crazy story. So so now my son has had an encounter. My older son has had a when they were counting in two thousand and seven, and then my younger son had this happen, And now I'm like, oh, heck no. So I started to do a lot of research, like, you know, like what can I do to get this under control? Because I was not happy with this situation. I was, you know, like this is crazy. So and then you know, and then I was experiencing these I guess paranormal things happening in the woods, and some other things what you know had happened too. So this deer had died, this mama deer, and this baby deer had died.

1:36:23 And we were having a birthday party from my younger son. Here here's another example. And while the kids were over, and it was his birthdays in January. So it's tends of snow outside. We're having like this little wiener fire, this hotdog roast out there, and it's snowing. It's kind of like, you know, miserable, but of course that the kids love it. And here comes it's deer, this baby deer. Well, it's not a baby, it's it's a a I mean, it's young, and it has its tiny horns on. And I hate to say it that we were given it some food. I don't agree with that, but the locals around there were saying, hey, the steers, you know, you know, it's worth the it's walking around.

1:37:07 So we're kind of got out. So this deer that we named I forgot what we needed it. It came up and then it left. Well, sometime later that year, my neighbor called and I said, yeah, I'll. Come and get it. I was going to go to her house. And when I opened up my door. It was turning kind of it was. It was dusk, it was going to be dark. It was evening time. And my neighbor lived next door to me, like two acres down and they also had like five and a half acres. I was going to walk through the woods, but I passed by the horse trailer and the horse trailer started rocking, and I thought, oh, there's an animal in there. And I thought, well, maybe it was that deer, But how is it going to get in there? How is any animal going to get in there because it's a two stall horse trailer, the door is really high, but.

1:38:02 Hey, you just never know. So then what ended up happening was. I hopped up on the horse trailer and I looked inside and it was empty, and I fell to my knees and I started praying because at this time now I knew it was some kind of spirit, something that was trying to get my attention. And I was raised very strictly in the Catholic world that you don't mess with that. And on top of everything else that I had been happening, my name being called there's nothing there finding gifts, So now at this point I was finding feathers like you know, in weird patterns out in the woods. Things would go missing, like a bag of horse feed. It would be like at the end of the property, tools, bikes would be you know, things were I mean, like a lot of stuff is happening. So at this point, now I didn't know what was happening. I didn't know, like, okay, so now we're talking about paranormal stuff. So I started praying and I said, in the name of the Jesus Christ, do you part. And I put my hands up and I meant it, but I was terrified. And I got up and I went to my neighbor's house and she goes, you look like you've seen, like what happened? And so I told her and then I don't know. I think she walked back with me, or she drove me home.

1:39:21 I refused to walk home. It was dark. There was no way because I was I was supposed to go there and pick up I think it was a spice or something, and then I was going to go home, but no, it's dark. And she's like, I. Don't know, girl, And so she drove me home, and you know, there was nothing there. And then someone eventually caught that deer because it was becoming a problem. It was, you know, becoming older, and it was starting to harass some of the people, and it was moved somewhere. But I never got any explanation for any of these things that were happening. And then one day I swear I heard like Indian chanting out in the but nothing like anything like nowadays, Like I'm talking like ancient stuff.

1:40:07 And then I just was feeling a lot of things, and I was confused. I was, you know, my children were going up into the mountains riding their drip bikes and things. And so my older son graduated school, he moved away. And so now it's just my younger son at home, and the year is twenty seventeen. Like I've left a lot of stuff at but the years twenty seventeen, and now I'm starting to think, Okay, something is not right here. And again I had been starting to work with some of some of the tribes there, and they would say, you know, the forest people, you need to respect them, So, you know, I was kind of starting to see their point of view. So I started audio recording and I bought one of those cheap audios from Walmart.

1:40:58 My husband had retired and he was a private investigator. So he was a private investigator for ten years until I think up until like twenty twenty one when he fully retired. So in twenty seventeen, he said, here, here's one like use this, and he showed me how to use it. I didn't even set up a date, like an idiot, because I never think. I never thought I already get anything that I was. Hearing so many things, and you know, at that time, the smart form you know, even in twenty seventeen, the smart phones. I don't think I had one or it wasn't that great. So I got an audio recorder and I started putting it out and I started listening, and some of the things I got were really really crazy. So from twenty seventeen until current is what I really mainly planned to talk to about.

1:41:47 But I got them howling, I got them moaning, as in ceremony of a loss. My kids would walk with their friends down the road and they would hear these sounds and they would take the four wheelers, and we had to get I had to have rollers. With my younger son. He would take off on his dirt bike at the age of twelve, thirteen, fourteen, because at that time our cell phones did not work up in the mountains, and he was always gone. He would come back and he would tell me a crazy story. Hey, mom, I was up in the mountains and.

1:42:30 We stopped to take a break and to get a drink, and the trees were shaking, and they know probably what it could be, so they would get on their dirt bikes and leave. My son has had different stories like that. So I started catching different audios and I became really mesmerized. But then May came around, well, actually May May Memorial a day. I worked for a friend two nights a week. I worked Monday and Fridays, and so this one Monday night, it was a Monday before Memorial Day. So now one of the properties next to me, a house had been built, and he was also ex military, and he was married and they he's pretty much a recluse, but he would talk to us and we would talk to him, and you know, like I said, this is a big guy's He worked with the armory stuff, the tanks and all that.

1:43:34 So you know, I came home on a Monday night and my older son was asleep and I walked in around eleven ten and my husband said, hey, is that you? And he never calls out my name when I came home. He knows it's me because the dogs will come and greet me. They're not barking. He knows it's me. So my neighbor texted me, but I was really tired. I didn't read it. I would probably get like a glass of wine, or maybe a little fourth of a glass of wine to go to sleep, because my mind I'm super like ADHD. I mean, add my money is going and going and going, and I would take care of these two kids and I would have a lot of problems with them. Some friends of mine adopted these two children through the fostering system and they would leave on Monday nights to go practice for a dark team. So I said I would work for them. Plus it was extra money. So I came home this night and I eventually went to bed. I didn't even read my neighbor's text.

1:44:47 And the next morning, which is Tuesday, we were talking. My husband was getting ready to go to work and my younger son was gone to school already. He said, oh, hey, something slapped the house last night. What. I said, what? And he said, See, this is why I didn't want to tell you, because then you wouldn't have gone to sleep last night. I was like, okay, whoaa, he said, last night before you came home, something slapped the house and he said slept And I said where. He said, well, I mean, you know who knows. I was laying down. It was enough for him to get the rifle. But again, the dogs were fine. He walked down the long hallway, opened up the sliding glass door and looked outside. Nothing.

1:45:38 The dogs were fine, So he's fine. Then I come home. It's the next morning. I run outside and. I'd go on back of the house and I'm or like again underneath my bedroom window where there was this pathway that had been started over the years, and he said he didn't really know where it came from. So I came to the front of the house. Big for Society will be right back after these messages.

1:46:24 Where is my running front porch? So I'm not on the porch. I'm standing in the front yard and I'm looking for any kind of sign. And on the front of the house are handprints and they are big and they are oily. You can see just you could tell just by looking at it. And I'd run in the house and I tell my husband and he just looks at me. Again. He is not worried. He is not into this topic. He said, well, what it can have to say? I said, oh yeah, Ken texted us and I read it and it was a long text. He said, hey, heads up. My motion like keep going off, you know, which normally it could be a deer or something. But he said they keep going off, and he said something else to that effect, to where it wasn't normal. He said, his cats are hissing. They're not acting right. And they said this cat that was feral.

1:47:29 And he said his bird was going back and forth on the perch. He had a cockatail. So he said, heads up, you know something is outside. So whatever was in my house went through the woods, which is maybe half an acre or an acre over to his. His property is more wooded than mine, and I have walked all those woods a ton of structures over there before they built that house. So now I'm reading his texts and I I am starting to like, oh, oh, this is like too much. He said that he was in. His bedroom around midnight and his wife, who is a nurse, has to go to sleep early. But he's standing looking through his big bay window, or his big glass window that looks out to his driveway, which is a horseshye driveway, and he said something was standing there on two legs and it looked like haunches.

1:48:28 Okay, what do you mean haunches? So he's saying this in a text and I look at my husband and I'm like, what the heck. So my husband leaves for work and I said, where are you going. You're not going to leave me here, are you. He's like, oh, you'll be fine. So my husband goes to work and I'm sitting in my kitchen. I call a really my friend who's a real estate agent, and I said, hey, how much can I get from my house? He's like, why you want to sell? And I said, just how much can I get from my house? Call me back? And I ended up telling him what happened. Now. He had an encounter also, so he totally would believe me, and he's like, well, that's really cool. Can I come over?

1:49:09 And I was like, yeah, sure, But he never came over, and so I went to my neighbors to talk to him, to ask him some questions, and. He said that he saw this thing looking at him. It had pointy ears and it had like backward like haunches. That sounds like a dog man. I had never heard of a dog Menchell around that time, I'm like, okay, so how tall was it? And he said it was like seven or something eight feet And I said, so, what do you think it was? And he said, oh, it was a bear. Of course, I said, oh, you think it was a bear? So he doesn't know anything what I do. He doesn't know I'm into stasquatch. He doesn't know anything.

1:49:54 I said, well, he said he slept with his pistol all night long. I said, well, if you knew it wasn't a human and it was a bear, why would you sleep with your pistol all night long? Because like that's not like I wouldn't. Sleep with the pistol if it's a bear, I'm gonna go back to sleep, Like, Okay, there's a bear, that's no big deal. And he looked at me and he got really irritated. And I said, what I'm trying to say is like, you know, how about like you know, do you think it could be like maybe like a bickfoot. He looked at me like I was crazy. No, it wasn't a bitfoit. Okay, okay, I mean, you know, I'm just going by your description. And it's very tall and it has these weird haunches.

1:50:36 I'm like, that doesn't sound right. So I went home and my friend called me from the south, one of the guys I used to research with, and he basically told me you'll be okay. You live there, like, don't let him run you out, but stop giving them freaking attention. Now. Again, this is a person who grew up with them, and his grand father knew if they were buggers. He told me to stop. Giving it attention, stop giving it energy. So my husband heard me tell him that I call it a real estate agent. And I hung with the phone with my friend, and my husband said, we're not still in this house because of that reason.

1:51:19 And I said, why not. Why can't we stay like in this area and just buy some more property but no woods or like let's just you know. He's like, we have horses. We can't just move. I said, well, okay, crap, he said, we're not moving, Like, where are we supposed to move to? He said, you get it together, because if we move, like when there's no place to move to, we can't afford it, and too, it's just like it's not a good time to move. And he was serious about me not being able to research anymore, even though I was living on this property. But he was I'm very serious about saying, you know, get it together, and so I did. So I kind of just took a step back, and I stopped paying attention to stuff. I mean, they were there. I knew that. I started audio recording and then I was picking up sounds like crazy audios.

1:52:21 Twenty seventeen is when things started changing for me. I wanted answers. My son was camping by himself, so now he's I think he's fifteen or sixteen. He's camping and he asked us if he could camp in this one area, which is state land, and I said, absolutely not. You can go up on the mountain to the area where your dad knows in case something happens, we cannot only get to you buy a four wheel or not even because we didn't have a geep like I have a deep today, but we have a big truck. There was no way this big truck is going to make it up there, at least I don't think so. But so he said. A friend was supposed to meet him. So my son had a flatbed trailer where he built this tent on top of it, and it was very genius.

1:53:20 He took all of his gear and he went to this location and I said, okay, please, you know, don't go to the other area. Well, the next day he came home and he walked through the door and his eyes were big, and he told me what happened to him. Well, one he went to the area where we told him not to not to camp out, so he knew he was in trouble. He said, Mom, I was in my tent and I heard something heavy walking, but it wasn't like a bipedal. It was like bipedal walking side by side, but it was different. And then he said, squeezed at me. I said, squeezed at you. He said yeah, And then it came around and he said he was really really scared. And I said, well, I didn't know what happened. He said, well it left. I said, left the dning you come home, he said, all I went to sleep. I was pulling my hair out. I was like, are you serious, Like why'd you go over there? And I said, so, what did you hear? He said it.

1:54:29 Sounded like a pterodactyl. I said, what, what the heck are you talking about. I was expecting him to stay a sasquatch, but it didn't. And to this day, we will pull up a YouTube video play a chair dactyl sound and it sounds just like that. So that's another encounter that he's had. My son has been chased by. A person thing that chased him on another time. This was, you know, care normal, weird crap. Another night, this is right before he learned how to drive.

1:55:10 These kids, I tell you what they would put on their car hearts, zip up jackets, their hats, and he would and his friends would ride the four wheelers to each other's homes. And we had rules, calm we could get through. And yes, I had to come to the point to where I had to be okay with this at some point because life doesn't stop and we were not moving, and my son was active outdoors, he was up on the mountain, so I had to find I had to find some peace somewhere. And my husband flat out, Tommy, you gotta let the kid off the boob, Cindy, you know, my husband's really crude. When he I was like, okay, gay fine and fine. So my son was went to a friend's house one day and it was nighttime and.

1:56:05 I said, he said he was gonna bring home, bring his friend home with them, and they had a PlayStation two. Well, they stopped at the grange, which is right by this property where they had this encounter. It was a full moon out there were sitting on the swings. It was nine something and I remember looking at my phone thinking, Okay, they haven't called me yet, Like you know, they said they would call because they were they wanted to come back home. And so what I would have done is I would have got on my truck and gone and met them at the bottom of the mountain where my son would have come out from. Now, the way he goes to this property, I still cannot believe that he went through by this ramp, this lonely road. There's nothing there, just this lake, this pro there's four thousand acres of and state land all around.

1:57:06 Then he has to go through state land, then he comes out in the residential farming area. Then he has to cross this road and go up this all the mountain. I'm like, oh my gosh. You know, so they walk in the door. I don't know what time it is. It's late. I'm like, why don't you call me? I was like all worked up, and he said, Mom, we were we stopped at the grange. I was gonna call you. He said, Sorry, I forgot, he said, but man, we were sitting there and I look up and now my son didn't have a rifle. In fact, it might have been a shotgun. And he was sixteen or seventeen, and I think he was sixteen, So up there, that's very normal.

1:57:46 You know. Again, probably some of these people, if they're hearing this, they're thinking, what kind of parent lets there. Well, I'm gonna tell you what. Raka has learned how to use the weapons and respect them. And he had a rifle with them, you know, because. They're out there. There's grizzly bears, there's mountain lions, there's bear I mean you just you know, there's all. Kinds of stuff out there. So, yes, he had a rifle, but I think it was a shotgun. Well, they were sitting at the grange. They looked up. There's this road that crosses over the over this creek, and there's a bridge that looks old and rickety, like time had not touched it. So they're sitting on these things and they're looking at this bridge and they see this person walking up. Now it's winter time where it's it's very very cold out.

1:58:33 This person has on like a hoodie and like pants like sweats or jeans or I don't know, but they don't have a coat on. So they're like looking at this person. And they crossed the bridge and they stop and they look over at my son and his friend. Now my son had they had parked before a wheeler, they had got off, they had gone through the gate or around the gate. And they sat in the speaks. So now they're looking out this person who's looking at them, and my son's friend, who is not exactly the sharpest tool in the tool box, stood up and goes yo, man, like you know, hey, what's up? And this guy puts out his hands and starts sprinting towards them. They both hop up go around the gate and they hop on the flour wheeler, and this person has crossed the field in speed lightning. And then when this person sees that they're going to take off down the road, the guy cuts off through the field and then it comes to a to a like a tee and let me tell you what. This guy tried to grab them. This guy got so close that my son looked and he said he had a black face.

1:59:52 There was no face there, mom. So he told me, and now I'm thinking, what is going on here? And I said, and then what happened? He said, Well, we kept going. We didn't stop like you know, there's like a stop saying there. And he said this this person kept up with them. He said, Mom, I was going forty five miles an hour. That's dangerous with two people on the four wheeler no helmets. But hey, that's just how we roll. Somebody wants to judge me, that's fine. You know. They crossed the road to come down to the cutoff rog that comes to our house. Beig for Society will be right back. After these messages.

2:00:43 This person thing, whatever it is, was keeping up with them steadily back. I then said, he stopped the flour wheeler. He was gonna they were going to shoot this person. And this person was gone. They came home told me the story. I'm like, wow, I call the Sheriff's office. And then I realized I can't say there's no faith there, so I kept the story basic. There was somebody chasing the kids, and can you bring some patrol out here. So I got in the truck with the kids, went to the area. They ran me down the story what happened? There was nobody there, and then I said, show me the way you come home. So I went down the road. And then when we got to the state Land, he says, then then I go through there, and I go through.

2:01:35 I'm like, are you kidding me? You are going through the state Land. Oh yeah, that's how I always go. Okay, So we go home. A week or two later, they're out pulling sleds. It's snowing. There's a couple of kids out, there's two four wheelers. This thing pops out again starts chasing him. Now I don't know what happened. At that time, it wasn't as crazy as the first story. So this is my younger son who's had these not necessarily sasquatch encounters, but weird things that have happened to him. I have got another audio recorder. One night where it's eleven o'clock, I am talking to my son again, a teenager.

2:02:20 It's I'm in my kitchen. I turn on my audio recorder like I always did, and I stuck it on the back porch and. I'm mad about something. I'm talking to my son and you can hear on the audio they're doing ooh, ooh, ooh. And then you hear me talking and I'm like, hey, no, no, no, no no, and then you can hear it. Go oh. So I have that audio. It's I'll send it to you. It is crazy. So all these things have happened to my son. Twenty seventeen, again, is when a lot of the cysts started happening, and I am glad I didn't sell my house Thanksgiving time. I was coming home one night again from the same for people that I worked for.

2:03:12 It was Friday night. I came home. It was going to be Thanksgiving. And I know this because I was coming down at our long rub and I was thinking, what are we going to do with Thanksgiving? It was twenty seventeen, and we had gotten this dog Gunner. I'm going to tell you the story after this would happened in twenty eighteen. So we got this dog in twenty seventeen because we built a shop and we had clear two acres and when they delivered the material for the shop, I noticed the activity was ramping up, and I realized that I had put out my audio of a quarner. And this is like September August September. We were building the shop. A couple of things happened that were unfortunate.

2:03:59 One my son's dog got run over by heavy machinery and he died. So my sins blab, I mean my son's dog, Jackson died. And then when. They delivered the heavy metal the sheeting for the shop, they just put it out there and I put my audio recorder aut The next. Day I heard two of those. I heard two clanking sounds. No human, not four men could have grabbed the twenty five long foot of the metal sheeting. It came on an eighteen wheeler that had that barely got through my road because my road is very, very skinny. And the guy kind of got mad at us and said, you didn't tell us if we were property.

2:04:51 Hey, we didn't know you were going to it was gonna be like that. So they delivered it. They laid it down that night. I put up my audio recorder auf. The next morning I was hearing it. You can hear. Something had gotten the metal and just slammed it down. Three times. And then I heard at from the woods, so again I went out of the woods. The next day, I said, uh, okay, well we're building a shop here. We had to clean. We had to clear two or three acres. Sorry, stop paying the shop. Okay, like it's done, we're gonna build it. I said, I'm sorry we disrespected you and didn't ask you.

2:05:32 And then I left them some tobacco and I walked in the house again. These are things that were taught to me from my Native American friends. And then my son's dog died, and then we went and got another. Dog because he was very sad. We got this black lab. He was seven months old. His name is Gunner. I had another big dog, her name is Roxy. She is a melanute that I got I think in twenty thirteen. So now I have Roxy and we have this lab. And Gunner was taken off all the freaking times. So we had to put up this fence. So we put this fence up. And the story comes in where I was coming in from work around November and we had this fence was probably maybe a month or so old.

2:06:24 So we also put in a doggy. Door from our front port so the dogs would come out through the front port and then they're in one acre that's fenced in. So I came home this one night and I pulled up our driveway and I remember thinking, oh, I wish my husband would put a light on the shop, which we did eventually, because our driveway is kind of long, and it's a rock driveway, it's not concrete or anything like that, but still, and I got down from our truck and then I door and I heard from across the street a huge like a log snapped, and I shut the door and all left across the street, and then I ran to the gate, went and run. But there was something different about this, like they went out of their way to get me to notice them. So I had to open the gate, which was kind of hard because Gunner at the dog the lab had figured out I had to hit the gate and the latch would unlocked, and so my husband just tied this thing around.

2:07:31 So I ended the gate and I opened the gate and I closed it and I tied it shut, and then there was another crack from across the street, and I walked to the front porch. I looked, I turned around, I was tired, I was annoyed. I was thinking about quitting my job because when one of the kids was very rough and I think something had happened that night to where they wouldn't go to sleep, and I had to go through a series of exercises to get them. Like, you can't just of these kids. They would have behavioral, serious behavioral issues. So I really didn't care to hear any of these noises. I wasn't really, I mean, I was afraid. But I turned around and I looked across the street and I said what And then my dog came through the doggy door and laid down the gunner laid down my other dog's door, my mail, and you did not come out. And I said, that is your house.

2:08:26 And I pointed to the mountain across the street and I said, this is mine. I'm going to bed. I said, quit it. I shut the door, closed the doggy door, and I went to bed. The next day I had to go get my son from school. Now the property across the street, I know this property because it was empty. We knew the owners. They had bought this property. They lived somewhere close to Seattle, and they had plans to build on there. One day, so they asked us to watch it, and. Our kids played on there, and sometimes we would let our horses back in the day eat from this proper and because you know, in springtime. The grass was always the outer Plus we had thrown some clover out there, so I knew this property. Plus my kids would make forts across the street, and there was a rolling a rolling signature to the property, and a lot of the times I knew that they were out there spying on me because there was huge game trails where elk and moose would come through these big game trails.

2:09:26 And I found traps across the street too on this property, and I've heard things. And so the next day after hearing that, on that Friday night or whatever night it was, I was backing on my truck and I saw across the street the tree that I knew so well. It was bent over, like one of the arms of the tree was bent over. What the heck? Now, it hadn't snowed yet, I don't think. So I have a Dodge truck, and I got down. I had left the door open and. It was running, so it was kind of going Dan dain ing and I walked into the clearing and I looked at this tree and it was bent over in a weird way, but I wasn't broken or it was twisted weird.

2:10:18 And then I felt like I was not alone, and I could feel I could there was a presence there. So I walked to the tree line and I started looking for the snapped off branches, and sure enough there was three snapped off branches of these pine trees that I had heard three snaps in the night before. And then I was like, whoa, this is this is this is something happened. So I started backing off and I got to the clearing and I said, I'm leaving. I'm leaving. And then I walked underneath that tree again and I said, did y'all do this? Like what happened here? And I got into my truck and I left. And when we came home, I shared my son and he was like, it is wild and I've shown people that property.

2:11:03 So that was twenty seventeen. And then so now we have this black lab, we have this spence that we built. It's twenty eighteen, spring break, March, the end of March, which it still is very cold. Again. I put my audio recorder out. It's like twelve thirty am. I was watching a movie and the kids were in the RV outside and I checked on them. I told him, hey, I'm going to bed, y'all need to come in. That's fine. So I turned off all the lights and I went to bed. Well, Gunner Muster went outside, because he came running in like I don't know, it was like half an hour later, because I had kind of gone to sleep and I had woke up and he was freezing. He was coold. I'm like, shoot, did I not close the doggy door? So I don't remember if I did or not, but I remember he was cold.

2:11:54 So the next day I got my audio recorder and I started playing it. I would play it and listen to it while I was drinking a coffee. More in five minutes, I can hear this dog barking off in the distance, and then I hear this and then barking and barking and the stained girl. I'm thinking the neighbor's dog, and then I realize it's Gunner. It's my dog, and I know exactly where he's at. I'm like, oh no, I don't whatever you know that's been hanging around here. The kids had also been out walking the.

2:12:34 Night prior the first night, they were out walking and they were waiting for another friend to come over, and they came in and they said, we hear something heavy across the street breathing, and they said it's something big, and I. Said, okay, well, hold on, I walked outside. Now, one of my. Friends, my son's friend, told me that his mother didn't believe in sasquatch, and. Basically they thought I was crazy. I said, really, well, you might hear something, and then I made a call. I shouldn't have done it, but I did, and yes they did. Here's something.

2:13:17 I don't remember what, but let's just say that he peed on my couch and the next day he would not stay here. So his mother came and picked him up, and I thought, okay, great, you know I'm gonna I'm gonna hear something from this mom now because I scared her kid. So something happened. I can't remember, but he did get scared and he she came and picked him up and he left. So then the next night is when I put the audio recorder out, and then they were still out there, and then the next day is when I heard Gunner barking. And then is when I got that roar and I went outside the front porch and Gunner.

2:13:57 Sat on the front yard and he refused to go any deeper the woods, and so I put him on a leash and I took him outside of the fence and he walked with me. But when we got to the end of the driveway where there's no woods, because I mean it's my driveway, there's woods to the right, I was walking him on the outside of the fence and I walked to the corner where he was at. My fence had been peeled back on the bottom, which I don't understand. And then I could see where Gunner had been inside the fence at the corner there of my property, and he had dug he was trying to something had dug a hole there. I think that was him. There's a big game trail that goes outside of my fence and it goes straight across the street and up into the mountains.

2:14:41 So whatever something was there and was barking at him, and. Something that I do with all my new animals. As I introduced him to the property, and I say, this is Gunner, you know, hands off. So I was staring at the so I'm holding the lead piche of gunner and I'm looking across the street and I say something to where you know, this is not okay. I go back inside and I'm thinking this is really crazy. So I play that for the kids that afternoon because they got attitudes. And they ain't listening to me, you know, And I'm like, okay, listen to this. This is why I yell at go nowhere.

2:15:25 And I played it and they're always got biggest saucers. I'm like, yeah, it sounds like a dragon roaring, and they're like that's crazy. I'm like, no, something is out there. I don't think it's from the regular clan. So I went back out there later that evening and I said, okay, well you've been here for a couple of days. It's time for you to move on. And then I asked my local clan if it's if they're not you know, local here, can can you get them out of here? Big for society who will be right back after these messages?

2:16:12 I mean, so now I'm talking to the woods. My mentality is a little different. And twenty eighteen came around, some other things happened, so now I'm some other things have happened to where I am witnessing metaphysical things, okay, happening right in front of my eyes. We took a family picture at Christmas. My older son brought his fiance over. She's the photographer. We were standing in our road. We had our weapons. We were all holding weapons. I mean, I wasn't. I hasn't had his ar I don't know. My other son had a rifle, and so did my daughter in law. We'll hit my son's fiance and my other son is standing next to me and he's got a rifle, and I'm we take a picture to where she put out the camera and then she set the timer and then it took a picture.

2:17:03 Well, sometime later, a friend of mine who I hardly hear from, contacted me, and I knew she was one of those woo people. And she said, hey, there's something in the photos. I said, what are you talking about? So she said blow it up? So I blew up the photo and I saw something, but it wasn't clear. And then I was like, you know, I kind of thought, okay, it's like I was kind of halfway open to it, but I wasn't totally. So then you know, time went by and I would be outside again. I've had people over, I've heard things. I started taking photos and videos with my phone, and then I started exploring more. And then I was opening up my mind to the the possibility that there is something more happening here. Because now I started praying out in the woods, and I said, hey, to pray. Do you guys want to pray with me? I mean, whoever is around.

2:18:04 That might sound crazy to you, but I. Would walk my property many many times and pray. So I started seeing things in photos. I don't know how else to tell you. I was seeing beings in photos. I've seen multiple beings. And I opened up that photo again of us standing in the road, and it looks like a National Geography picture of my family there. I'll send it over to you. And I could see a freaking wolf like a dog man's head above above my head, not a sasquatch, a dog man, a dog man's head like in between changing or she described it as this wolf being was changing into I forgot how she put it into another dimension.

2:19:02 It was raising his vibration because they can do that, and that's how they hide. Now I'm learning all this. This is only to me. All I know is I see it and I see other things, and from that point on that was normal for me. I did a complete one eighty, and once I did that, things were wrapping up run in front of my face. I would hear things walking up to me and then there was nothing there, and I said, God, would you just. Show yourself already? So then I started putting up some trail cams by our shop because there was break ins of the place. And then I asked Iva I could put the trail cam out in the woods, but I kind of just put it up. I didn't ask them if I could take their picture. So I put up a trail cam and I got like ninety photos of nothing.

2:19:43 They would set off the camera, they would move the camera, then it was knocked off the tree, and finally, duh, like why didn't you get this, Cindy, I said, okay, okay, sorry, I won't do this again. If I do, I'll ask you. Because I did ask them if I could audio record them, and I did get various audio recorders, and not all the time did I get it, because there was things off in the distance that I would get other sounds. But for all the close proximity audio recordings, more than likely I did ask. So after that I started really exploring the possibilities of the unknown. I started studying Ron Moorhead, who was a friend of mine kind of at that time. You know, Arlow was a friend of mine since Oklahoma, a lot of people know Arla. I started talking to her, and then I met Tob Johnson.

2:20:35 I did a show with Tob. He holped me up with Frizetromo. Rich Stromo talked to me for hours on a Facebook Messenger, and a lot of things were just like started falling into place. Twenty twenty one, my husband had to we retired. We went out of town. My older son, now I mean my younger son, stayed at our property so we could go back to my property in East Texas where we are starting to snowbird now every winter. So the winter of twenty twenty one to twenty twenty two, I formed a team, so a saft squash Sisters Northwest was born. So the thing that completely changed my mind was sometime in twenty twenty year twenty twenty one.

2:21:22 I don't know what year it was, maybe it was twenty nineteen. I have it written down because I'm riding a book. So I was out in my front yard and there's this tree that the moods like to eat, and it was I was looking at the trampoline because I was thinking I need to take this trampoline down, but I was too lazy because it was kind of old, and I. Was like, oh, I'm just gonna I'm on, I'm just gonna leave it up. Well, I noticed my job walking through this bush, and I felt your presence. I felt a signature. So a lot of the times when I'm talking to people, I will say I developed good feelings for when the female. So the female that you heard cooing, I named Yaquila. She's come around a couple of times.

2:22:06 I did have a. Visual of her one night, and it was I don't know what year it was, maybe twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen. I would have to go back and look at my notes. We have an area called the pet Cemetery. I had a dog that died and I was out there late one night. We had just buried her. I was really sad and she had I could feel her com basically, I don't know how else to describe it to you. I looked up and there she was. It was dark, but she popped out from behind the tree. I mean, not popped out, but she kind of came out and I could see the outline of her of her body. So I don't know what color she was or how tallersh she was, but she was maybe, I don't know, seven half feet. But her eyes were this red orange and they emanated brighter and then less and brighter and less. And let me tell you what, the feeling that I was getting from her was not anything scary.

2:23:09 She knew I was sad, and I was like, it's you. And then she turned around and she was gone. Now, of course it's nighttime. I can't say she disappeared into thin air because she's at the back of the woods. But I know what I saw and I know I know it was her. After that, I thought, it's a little bit better. And so now my life is completely different. They're coming around credit that I'm hearing all kinds of things. Now, I've had people over, we've had fires, We've heard things, and then the other person didn't. So there could be like my husband has never seen anything.

2:23:50 My husband has heard things, but he is not there. So with that mentality, which I called, I hate to stay closed minded, but because it's not his thing, he's not going to have these encounters. Okay, You're not going to have these kind of encounters if you if you're going to have that way of thinking, okay, And that's okay because it's not meant for everyone. And I don't expect anyone to believe me because I used to make fun of the Woo people. I used to make fun of people like Garlia, people like Tom, and now they are very very good friends, very good friends of mine that I swear by them. Are you talking about Tom Control? Yes, I just interviewed him yesterday afternoon. That's wild. Yeah, okay, he's on my book. So my dog is going through this tree and I got my my my phone, I started videoing and I could see through my phone, I saw a stask Watch interment. I mean right there.

2:24:42 I could see the back of him and I say he because that was the energy I got. No, I didn't see any parts that would indicate he was a male. I just saw the back of him and he was sitting down. And the feeling that I got was opportunistic. Amazingly that I could we had that opportunity. It was like the final clarification and I went. You, it's you not that I knew him, but I didn't. I was like, oh my gosh. I put my phone down and my dogs started walking to the house and she was fine, and I put the phone up again, and I moved just a little bit and I could see the side of him and it looked like he was doing on something. Then he got up and walked off like predature movie, looking like something. At that I went into the house. So after that, this is all normal for me. I formed a team in twenty twenty two.

2:25:38 That summer, my team was on my property. We were doing some sound bowls, some cleaning up the land to raise air vibration, to which we discovered there was a ton of things that were tied to me and to my family, spirits, Indian spirits that were. We did some kind of ceremony. I didn't, but some people that were on my team at that time did. Then later that day that evening, we were smudging each other and one of the gals I was walking said there was two portals there.

2:26:19 She did it. I couldn't tell you that the method she told me, but I had seen many lights from that area, and that's another thing I've seen orbs I've seen lights in the woods and then we saw two sasquatches pop their heads out. I would call like a tree peaker, and I turned around. I didn't see at first. One of my partners did. I said, oh my gosh, and I said, can I take you a picture? I know I saw like a crazy person, and I started flicking away the feeling that I had. I can't even describe it to you, but it was fine. It was clean, and it was fine. They had our trust, they knew we respected them. I didn't see him as the beast. I saw them as a person, as their own race, as someone smarter and.

2:27:03 Brighter than us. I saw them as part part human. I do support Melbolle Kitchen's work. I know a lot of people don't, but I do so to me in my mind, that explained it to me a little bit. We went up on the mountain and we did some clearing there, came back down, and I mean, it's just been really crazy and I In twenty twenty two, we went to Phenomicon. Me and your friend went to Phenomicon. Because I'm like, I'm here in Utah right now. We came down here. I was gifted some tickets actually from one of my friends who couldn't make it, so last minute, we came down here, stayed at my mom's house in by American Fork, and we stayed here for a couple of days, and then I drove to Vernal or Vernal I never say it right, Yutah to the conference and I was going to go look for some friends like Adam Davies and you know what's his face, Russell Accord, some of Skinwalker people, a skin Skinwalker ranch.

2:28:14 And my friend wanted to go talk to these psychic people, which I wasn't there for that. So I turned my head and I'm trying to call to add I'm waving at Adam Davies. He had this T shirt or something. And then I look at this lady. There's a lady by the name of Rebecca for Rebecca Frost. Oh shoot, am I seeing her name wrong? Anyway? This lady looks at me, and there's people standing around. There's some friends of mine standing by her, and there's a Lakota elder also standing on the other side of him that I met. Eventually, well, she goes, I can see your sasquatches. She's telling me this across the breaking room. Yes way now all the way down. I started crying because my mal and mute was sick. I knew something was wrong. And I was talking to my friend and she said, hey, do you have a white dog? A wolf dog? And I looked. I walked up to her.

2:29:12 I said, is this some kind of joke. She put her hand out and she said hi, I am Rebecca Frost and I was like okay. I said, yes, I have a dog. She's old now. And then she said, okay, well, your sasquatches are telling me that she's sick and they're saying it's cancer and you need to take her to the vet. And everybody's jaw drops. My friend's jaw drops, my other friend's jaw drops because she knows about my dog. And I was like, no way. So she gets a little emotional and I get emotional and I said, okay, I'll take her to the vet. And she said, there's this stuff on your property that has an arm sticking out.

2:29:55 They want maple syrup and they want sweets. What And she's yeah, And I said, oh my god, okay, And so. Now I know it's not a joke. And my friend recorded this. I do have one of the videos she. Recorded it and then I pull I open up my phone and I show her star and I'm trying really hard not to cry, and she goes, look there's that little thing flying around. That's a fury. I'm like, what, I bought it to fairies? Look what she goes, that's a fury. Well I didn't see it, but she was showing these other people that were passing my phone around. And then I walked away, and that whole weekend was just like weird. It was magical, it was just it was weird. I came home, I took a star to that.

2:30:43 It was confirmed she had cancer and she had a enlarged heart. Big for society will be right back. After these messages, they put her on medicine and water pills and she died in my arms four months later, February twenty twenty three. She died. A week later, my dad died and I was could not start crying for my dog. My father. I had a hard time, me and him had a hard time. I had a hard relationship.

2:31:26 And I just couldn't cry rough it didn't it was too much. And I had a photo of there's a juvenile sasquatch that I did not know was her friend. It was coming around. I have two photos of an interdimensional sasquatch, and both of these photos I had many photos where they appear like that. I have photos in two thousand and seven where I wasn't even in that mentality mode. But now I can see years years later, I can see these same photos, and I can see where there's these mama sasquatches are sitting in the reed by the priest rever and one has got a baby in her arms. Many people have seen this photo and the only reason I can see it is because I have accepted the fact that there's more to this than that them just being fleshed and blood.

2:32:13 And I mean, you can call me crazy, you can lock me up. I don't care. This is my life, this is where I have lived. And I realize now that she taught me, they want you to speak for them. This is going to be like, this is what you need to do. So I spent twenty twenty three. My team kind of fazled out, which was fine because of this thing. But the ability of the pictures, which we do believe that you once you take a photo of a sasquatch, thelready know what you're thinking. And any photo can change. A photo will never stay the same. It can change. They can even be gone from the photo.

2:32:56 And you ask anyone like Tom, and I'm pretty sure who will also agree with you. So so I had a team for a little bit, but then it kind of feelsled out, and then well I started snowbirding, and then all these other things were happening. Other doors were opening up for me, and a lot of people were reaching out to me. And so now that's what I'm doing, That's what I feel like. My job is I speak for the forest people. We researched through respect. I don't always do that. There's an area that we found these massive structures not too far down the road from where I live. I'm studying that right now. I've got some photos I can send you. They're really crazy. We walked into one of their we call at the Long House. We walked into I mean we climbed into the structure, didn't ask, so we were hit up. I was sick for like a week and a half. My partner was sick, like having vertigo twenty four seven, throwing up. I could I could barely walk. I had to We had to speak at watch Southeast.

2:33:58 Washington event up there, and thank god, we were feeling better at that time. So my life is completely different how I see these beings now. Are there some aggressive ones out there? Yes? I have gotten reports of where I live. There's a aggressive one up at Peace Lake. Now the bad thing about this whole thing is that I've lost a lot of friends because I took a photo of a report that I got, and I met the lady and I walked up to this teepee hut and the hut this teepee hat human components too it, but it also was inter It was also woven together with intricate components as well.

2:34:43 So I looked at the lady. She said, I just found this thing out here. She got my number. I met her. I took like two photos of the structure. She had a dog, and I felt like it was time to go. I said, it's time to go again. I always watched the animals. Her dogs seem fine. We walked out of there. Well, I think I put it on one of the local boards and the photo changed. Okay, down the road, I put the photo of the picture out there, and I think I took it down. I deleted it and then years later, the same photo popped up, but it had a SaaS cratch coming out of a tree. Okay, and it's Some people think it looks real. Some people think it looks like a yard art. But I've gotten different answers from people who were trying to feel it out.

2:35:38 And some people say it's the real deal because they are alive in the trees, that the trees are energy. Everything is energy, everything is frequency. The higher you raise your vibration, the more clearer things are, the more afraid you are, the more so they do have that capability. They know how to do that. Ron Moorehead explains it in his book. In fact, I write about him in my book. I've interviewed him. I interviewed Tom Kratroll. My book is almost done, hopefully this while I can be done with it, and I've taken a couple of months off. But I write about my journey in my book because I feel like that's my job.

2:36:23 And yes, that picture. I made the mistake of putting it on Facebook, but I did put in the comments. I described very intricately what happened, and I was very specific when I said I don't know what this photo changed. I even asked if they could use my photo in the video of the Breton Jill, that amazing documentary that they did a plage of beauty, Yeah, the second one. And so now people were talking about me, saying, you know, she's a liar and a hoaxer. And even my own similar team that I researched with got pretty distant, you know, which is fine. I mean, you know, it does seem a little crazy.

2:37:16 And you know, like I said, my father had been diagnosed with cancer. We no, I didn't tell you that my father died from cancer. So twenty twenty two, twenty twenty three was really I just I've grown a lot. I have done a lot of seeking for answers, and that is what my job is. My journey has only begun to come to the next level. But because I start, I live in Texas now half the year. So this last December I walked out into the back property. So I basically moved back to where I used to live before I moved to North Idaho. My kids are grown. My older son lives in Spokane, he's married. I have a granddaughter. My younger son has a a girlfriend, and ever since twenty twenty one, he lives in the house.

2:38:04 We have a big toy holler. My husband has a Harley. We take our toys down and we've hit the road, and so that is what we're doing now. This last year, when we got down to the ranch in East Texas, or our property, it's not really ransteamware because they don't have courses or anything. I walked out to the second fence where our property ends because I felt like I was called out there. You know, I felt something, and I just do what I feel, and I started filming. Now I have a rescue dog, and then I saw her back there. I thought, would the dog get back here? I didn't realize she had got out and she wanted to. She was basically taken off, and then something scared her by the back pasture where there was still a shed where we used to keep some of our saddles and stuff.

2:38:59 She jerked her head over, and I knew she was picking up on something. So I was calling her back, and I opened up the fence and I said, gish off here, and then I started filming and taking pictures, and sure enough, later some of my colleagues showed me many peeking out from behind the shed and in the tree line, and I think that they chased her back to me because she is a runner. I mean now she isn't and I still have her. I never intended to keep her. But so Star died back in twenty twenty three, and then we have another dog, and then Daisy.

2:39:42 I got this dog in December. So now the Texas client has come back or whoever they are, So that is what I'm going to start researching. Now the next level, I'm going to start really communicating with them. I'm gonna We left Texas in May. I got back up to our North Idaho. Ranch and I was gone to Forks because I was going to speak there and I wanted to meet Rich Dermo in person. Amazing human being and like I said, Tob Johnson and mere friends. And I completely backed that guy, how to Hunt guy. That Steve is dog guy. And he's even been told of some of my crazy stuff that's happened. And then I went to another event, the.

2:40:27 Family Sasquatch, the Sasquatch Family Reunion that Kelly scrolled. Kelly and Kettle Falls heard and her husband do this event and it's it's amazing. We do a lot of things. The work for the people for the the not just the Sasquatch, the the ets, every you know, everything that's involved with a collective. You know. Look, I'm not I'm still learning about all that, like that collective. Whatever. I do know that they do, Like Mike Bodowitz has written a book about the Elder Council of thirteen. He just put out a book. I don't know if people might want to go read it.

2:41:08 It's called Book of Elders. You can get it on Amazon. That's going to answer a lot of questions if people are really wanted to know answers. Read his book, by Arla's book, and I think you can get it on Amazon. By Tom Controll's books. Do searches on Amazon buy their books. The Ghost of Ruby Bridge, I think, is one of the titles of Tom Cantrall's book, and he writes about what really happened to Patty the Patti film or something. I've read parts of it, but I don't remember the whole book. That these are people that you should anyone should listen to. In fact, I'm building up a library for the future generations to reference back to. And so the first book I'm writing is and I'm not done It's about what's happened to me. And then I was done, but now all these things keep happening to me. I was up parent that you went to mountain, and I was me and a friend. We're hiking to Stuart Falls, and I just I was hearing things and she was hearing things. But this is a heavily trafficked area, so I mean, who knows what's going on? Like, I can only do so much. So I'm going to get back hopefully Saturday. I'll be home from here until October. I will be doing live deos on my page. My intention is to have continuous study and interaction with my clan.

2:42:28 And there's another group out there called Legacy Discovery. They have a YouTube page. You should look them up. It's called Legacy Discoveries. My friend that I researched with, she is amazing. She is Lakota they I mean, and she also lived there where I lived. In fact, you should call them up and I'll give you their names. Angelique Benham and her son Mitch. They have a team and they they also lived and they you know, we've done some work together and you, I mean, he is doing some heavy, extensive work and it's all in order and it's just amazing. So people can also go look up Legacy Discoveries on YouTube to get more answers. And so these are people that the Sasquatch people are trying to reach out to you, and not just the Sasquatch, just other things out there, because we are living in the times now where the Earth, the Earth has decided to raise her vibration, like she's done. Everything that jogs is going to come to light. I don't care who makes fun of me anymore, because we're here to tell a tale.

2:43:42 I'm a light worker. I'm here to be a voice for the Sasquatch people. I had these encounters, I believe in East Texas because I started out that way and then I moved up to North Idahoa, and then I went that way. And I've lived this life. People have witnessed it. Ego Bristo was on my property for like a five days. He's in my book. He was in his bedroom and in the bedroom that I gave him and he sits there all day and works and he comes out and goes, let's go for a swim. So he's a very good friend of mine. He's been on my property he walked my whole property. Heck, he was telling me, see, Sindy, this this and this here is a blind. The Sasquatch people did this, this, They were spying on you, and then they did this this. He watched my whole property. I read a video of it.

2:44:32 But again the things energies come into place where the video starts getting shaky and it's changed over time. So that's where I'm at now. I will be back home next week. I will be in the mountains because it' huckleberry picking time and I'm going to take it to the next level. Then this year, when I get to Texas, I'm going to continue that with that clan down there. I did find an area that I was called out to. It's a wildlife management control area. I was called out there by the forest people because it's completely trash. I called it the state no one's giving me answers. When I get back, that's going to be my project. I'm not writing.

2:45:16 I was going to write a book, but my first thing I'm going to do is and someone. Called me and said, hey, the Susquash people, I want you to go to this area and clean it up, like you know, it's trash. We need to clean it up. So I'm going to do that. When I get to East Texas, I'm going to find out who's responsible for this area and it needs to be cleaned up. So that's where I'm at right now. So they are very real. There are some bad ones out there, just like people. They are a people, and this is very real. They are not just flesh and blood. By Ron Moorehead's book, He's got three of them. The first one is is in the Wilderness, The second one is the Quantum Sasquash or something like that, and then the third one.

2:46:06 The second one goes into it pretty good. Then the third one answers questions about interdimensional Henry Franzoni he wrote a book in a cool way. Okay, Yes, I love Henry Franzoni so much. Yes, And you will look for him on a Flashi of Beauty interview and he will explain it, like as scientists, how they go, how they interdimensionally change. He will give you. He will. I mean, like I said, this is not something made up. This is not where you can roll your eyes. Go right the heck and do it because you are missing out. Open up your mind a little bit.

2:46:46 Because I promise you there is more to this. Now, do they all have these capabilities? I don't know, because I don't see the ones in East Texas the same way I see them. As those being more aggressive. So you said the one in North Idaho, you wouldn't want to go there. So I guess now, I know we've been on this foam way a lot of than what I had planned. But I'm sorry you got me started. Can we go back to that comment when you said you think that they're very aggressive up here. Why would you say that? So? I said that because there was an interview I had with a hunter in Northern Idaho and it was a really interesting interaction he had. But I mean, I've also talked to another lady in Northern Idaho and she experienced some very I would almost say high strangeness, not just sasquatch, but other things as well.

2:47:42 So yeah, I mean, is her name Angeline? No? Oh? Okay, well, because she is amazing, Okay, she was? Okay, Well, so what happened to these people? They were They had scary and counters. There were The main scary thing was she was out walking her dog and a voice was calling to them from the woods using their exact name. Luck what happened to me exactly? Yeah, yeah, And. I still don't know what that was. And there's a lot of missing people in that area, I believe as well.

2:48:22 So it's at the front door. Really, I didn't know that. Yeah, I don't get me area. But it's just kind of weird vibes from northern Idaho. But maybe someday I'll go up there. But just some weird stuff i've heard so. Well. My mountain is called Hoodoo Mountain and the Indians dated a long time ago. There's the energy here that you will respect it. You will respect it if you don't, and you know, you know then I'm not sure, but that's kind of where I'm at, and so I try to be very very careful because the more you know, the more you have to learn to discern things because you are a door wide open now. And I've had a lot of scary things happen as well, and I am sleeping out in my woods. I'm terrified to sleep out in my woods, and all I says, you have to get past that. I know. So last year I started sleeping at the tree line.

2:49:28 And I have no shame in telling you I didn't get much further past ten yards in the tree line, and it gets cold at night. So one night I was out there sleep. My dog will not go with me in the tent. Out there, I've heard things. I've even heard wolf and like dog men stuff. My property has been remote viewed two times. Jessica Jones has remote viewed my property. You can go on YouTube and she's done just eaty stuff portals. There's a dog man she saw and the Yeah. So that's kind of where I'm at right now. So now I'm setting the East Texas Clan.

2:50:09 I gotta clean up property down there, whatever that's trash, and now I want to get I'm going to start interacting with them out there. I said I would never give them food, but I am going to start putting. I am going to put maple syrup out there. I said I wasn't going to do it. And when my dog Star died as predicted, I called her, Rebecca Foster up and I told her and I tagged her in on her page to let people know that this woman is the real deal. So that's kind of it. And we've probably been on her three hours and I said an hour, Yeah.

2:50:50 Right, Cindy, it says an incredible journey if you think of the whole thing, and just thank you for taking the time to lay it all out. And I'm sure many people will learn a ton of things from this. And also how can people keep up to date with what you're doing when your book's going to come out and all that good stuff. Okay, So I am on Facebook, Cindy and bueno b e ando, good break, good be ake. You can send me a friend request or you can send me a message. It'll go on my other folder. For some reason. You know, I am an activist and a lot of people don't like political stuff, but I will, you know, I will speak up, so hopefully people will know that I am trying, like, come to my page.

2:51:39 If you see something you don't like, and if it's not subs Squatch related, don't worry about it. Send me a message. Because I have another page. It's called Sasquatch Sisters Northwest and I have a lot of videos on there that go back to twenty twenty one. You can scroll down and see them, and I that's where I will be continually putting stuff up there. I put stuff up there from Texas from years past where I'm out of my four wheeler and I'm you know, I'm doing something. I have some hows, some audios on that page so people can find me there. Yeah. So yeah, we are living in the last days, and I honestly believe that a lot of the things that are happening here in the world.

2:52:25 Is because it's it's just it's time. And I think part of the. The energies, you know, like I said, that are happening right now, a lot of people are waking up, and part of waking up is having the ability to see like the set like these, see them change interdimensionally, like run in front of your eyes. So fascinating. Well, Sin, I hope we keep in touch. I'm sure there might be a follow up sometime in the future as things will continue to progress. But thank you so much for chatting today, Cindy. It has been a really fun and interesting conversation.

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2:55:09 Her and I can get out here, we can tell our stories. Maybe there's somebody else out there listening it's too afraid to tell their story. Maybe this will give them the courage to come out. And I feel so bad about it. Who cares what anybody's thinks. I know what I saw. I know what's out there. That's all I care about. Please let people know, Please let them know. If you ever see one of these things, you need to tell because if you don't, then shame on you. You know, shame on you.