Aug. 12, 2024

It Stood There Watching Through the Window: 20 Years with Sasquatch in Idaho!

Join Cindy Goodbrake from Sasquatch Sisters Northwest in this intriguing episode as she recounts her fascinating encounters with Bigfoot and other paranormal phenomena. Influenced by the iconic Patterson-Gimlin film, Cindy delves into her extensive...

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Season 1

Join Cindy Goodbrake from Sasquatch Sisters Northwest in this intriguing episode as she recounts her fascinating encounters with Bigfoot and other paranormal phenomena. Influenced by the iconic Patterson-Gimlin film, Cindy delves into her extensive experiences from East Texas and Oklahoma to her current adventures in North Idaho. She vividly describes auditory encounters, mysterious forest structures, and eerie camping and horseback riding experiences. Alongside her personal stories, Cindy explores interdimensional theories and shares the impact of her current research, connections with local tribes, and insights from notable experts. Tune in for an in-depth look into the enigmatic world of Bigfoot and metaphysical phenomena.

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Ford Slash the Big for Society and now let's get

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on with the show. All right, Big for Society. You've

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got the privilege of talking to Cindy. Cindy's from Sasquatch Sisters, Northwest,

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and she considers herself to be an experiencer. She'said some

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really interesting things happen over the years. We're and taught

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to talk to Cindy about that today. But Cindy, how's

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it going?

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Oh fine, fine, fine, How are you? It's hot here

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in Utah?

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It's not too bad in Iowa. I'm in Central Iowa,

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and we're actually we are kind of chilled out for

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a little bit. You know, it's doable to walk around.

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But I've seen, you know, out in Oregon, they were

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having one hundred plus temps out there. It's pretty wild.

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But yes, yes, it's one hundred degrees at my property

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in North Idaho, and usually it's not like that. Maybe

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like two weeks it's in the high temperatures and then

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after that it's usually you know, at night, it gets

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pretty cool.

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So that's what's.

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Nice, Cindy. I got to start at where I usually

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start with these is So what got you into this

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wild Sasquatch adventure to begin with?

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So when I was when I was young, I don't know,

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I was probably seven or eight. I saw the Patty

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Gimblin film and I was living in I was born

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and raised in Texas, in South Texas. When I was little,

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I saw the film, and I don't know how I

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saw it or where I thought my father took me

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to see it, but I don't really remember that that

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stuck with me forever.

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I grew up in Laredo, Texas, and also in South

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Padrea Island and Harlan, gen That's where I was raised.

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My grandparents did have a family branch somewhere in Laredo

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on the border there.

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But that movie just stuck with me, and I remember

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never liking to be in any kind of woods growing

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at like subconsciously not realizing it was tied to that.

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I didn't I realize that like when I started researching

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and everything was connecting, but as I.

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As I grew up, I didn't even think about until

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years later when I was in my thirties, married, living

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in East Texas, basically east of Dallas, at.

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The beginning of what I think they call the piny woods,

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because in East Texas they have different units or different

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national forests.

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That make up what they call it the Big Thicket.

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So that is how I started, but or the first

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thing that got my interest. But it wasn't until way

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later in life that I became involved. When the Internet

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poured around in the nineties, like ninety seven or ninety six,

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when we got the internet, I just I don't know.

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I typed in Sasquatch books that one.

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Day and around nineteen eighty eight, I mean nineteen ninety eight, Sorry,

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I just found some people well, and I was horrified

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because at that time I was living in East Texas

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out in the country on acreage, and we had horses,

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and I was very active outside and I had two.

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Children, well one my other son came later, and I just.

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Could not believe it that they were actually in East

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Texas and actually where I was living around that part.

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But that's what got me started.

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Basically, that's interesting what an area to kind of be

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introduced into it that East Texas area has some wild

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wild things happened? Did they ever actually come to where

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your property is?

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I know this.

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Sometimes they're drawn to horses and there can be some

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interactions that happened there.

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Yeah. So so I hooked up with a lot of people,

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and some of them are known, which I won't say

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their names because I don't know if because where I

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ended up where I'll get to later, I don't think

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that they would share the same view, so I don't

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want to use their names. But I hooked up with

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different people and this one guy I can use his name.

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His name is Luke Gross.

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He is out of Northeast Texas and he has a

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ton of experience with these.

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Beings and he taught me how.

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To just go out in the woods and just he

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is really the first person that introduced me to the topic,

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and he's very patient.

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I was. I also met other people through him.

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I think at that time he had founded the him

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and Craig Woolheater had founded the Texas That's at Research.

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Center, So that was in its infancy. Like I was

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only there briefly because I.

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Had met some other people that I ended up researching

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with every single month for a couple of years, like

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up until two thousand and three. And what happened is

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that we I was living in East Texas and I

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started to go out into the field with different people.

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And this group of people that I went out with

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two of these these guys grew up on ranches with

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these beings on their ranches, like their grandfathers, you know,

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called them. There's a term in the South biggers. There's

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there's another topic. But these guys lived on ranches and

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their grandfathers told them about these you know, these sasquatches

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out in the woods. And then the area that I

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spent a lot of time in was boyk In Springs

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in East Texas, and I think that's in the Angelina

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National Fort.

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I could be wrung.

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And so I have heard every sound I have heard

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every grunt, every growl.

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And we spent many nights there and we would do

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the typical thing of going out in the daytime, and

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we would go to a lot of the same places

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over and over to study them. So Boyk and Springs

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is one place that I went.

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And other times me and my husband and would go

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horseback riding.

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So we would trailer air horses too, areas like East

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Texas or the Big Thicket, sorry, Southeast Oklahoma. Like I

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could just I could do one whole hour.

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Is talking about those two places. So in nineteen ninety seven,

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the guy who shoot our horses said, there's this place too,

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like three hours north of here, Southeast Oklahoma, calls to

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Tallahena and Honob, I say it, Honob, So that's not

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the right way to say it. And he said, I

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go riding up there with a group of people, and

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yoas should come. My husband said, I think we got

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family there in Tallahena.

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So eventually we went up to go.

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Meet my husband's family. He had an anth She was

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a real estate agent and everybody knew or she was

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a broker in Tallahena. So we went to go check

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out the area and we did not take out horses.

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It was just me and my husband.

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We spent a couple of nights at his family and

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then we did camp out, like one night out in

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honob And I will never forget. This is before I

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got like really famous with the Bigfoot festival. I will

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never forget that little Honobia Creek store there.

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There was a little post office in there.

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We would just stay like in that area up in

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the mountains there. But in nineteen ninety seven we were

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camping out. We had no horses, and we were just

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checking out the area to see if it was a

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place we would like to return to bring out.

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Horses, because the guy who shoot our horses said that

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every October like a hundred of them go for equestriane

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camping and for riding for like a whole week. So

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we were checking it out, trying to kill two birds

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with one stone or however that's saying goes. So there

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we are camping and all of a sudden we heard

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this like ambulance noise, a woman screaming. It was a

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how of a combination of things, And I said, what

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the heck is that?

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Because we're up in the mountains, like, what is that?

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And I said, that can't be an ambulance.

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I mean, we're way up here in the mountains, and

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my husband goes, I don't think that's an ambulance, and

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he's that's military, so he's always packing. So I wasn't

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too worried about it. But that actually was a siren

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call what I call a siren call that I would

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hear many many times in Southeast Oklahoma. So ninety seven

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before I even started researching, because that was like a

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year and a half later. So everything ties together with

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my journey up.

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I mean every little thing, like there's no accidents. So

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meanwhile I started researching in East Texas with these people,

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these these two guys that grew up on ranches, and

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there was other females there, and we profer areas over

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and over, and some of these people had night vision

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and different pieces of equipment.

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And I have heard t.

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Rex sounds well, but I say a t rex like

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a roar of is how I describe it from far off.

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Of the distance, like in two thousand and two, two

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thousand and three, two thousand and two thousand and one.

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I mean, all these years I spent out in the

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Big Thicket and in Southeast Oklahoma, and I have had

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close encounters.

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When I say a encounter, it's not always a visual.

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Encounter can be something of whether it's in close proximity

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of we know there's something there. And if you if

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you are having.

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The same things happen, like the same sounds, if you

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start seeing the same thing in the woods, like structures,

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but you don't.

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Have a visual, I still call that a encounter. And

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ninety nine percent I'm pretty sure it is a bigfoot

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or because they all have the similar qualities. But without

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having a visual, so I guess you can argue, well,

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you know something is there. So I had a visual

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in East Texas at a place we would go horseback riding,

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Sulfur Springs I think is where it was at, and

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that's actually not too far from Lake Tawakney.

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We have property out there and at the time, that's

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where I was living with my husband's family. There is

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multiple houses on this property and they are still there today.

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So from ninety nine to two thousand and three, I

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went to all these areas and I had different encounters

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that there was one encounter that happened in.

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Boykined Springs and I was with this group.

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Of people and we had a exciting, weird night. And

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I've had to ask some of my friends that were

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there what happened.

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What happened because I was with my friend at that time,

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her name was Kelly, and we were with this group

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of people and that night, me and Kelly were in

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the woods.

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It was probably late and late, like maybe midnight or after,

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and then there was other team members also out in

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the woods listening, kind of doing their own thing, whether

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that's looking through night vision or just listening or you

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know whatever.

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Well, this one night, I was just like frozen. Some

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people call that infra infrasound.

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I don't know, but one of the people that was there,

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I think he used to work for NASA. I'm not sure,

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but he was talking about this in the nineties, about infrasound,

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and he could explain it to you numbers, I mean everything,

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like I can't do that, And it really didn't land.

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Like I didn't really comprehend at that time.

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I just knew something happened and I was frozen, and

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that multiple times. There have been many.

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Events, and that was all I needed to know.

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And so on this one night, I was frozen. I

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could not move and it seemed like it was for minutes,

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but I'm sure it was for only seconds.

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Big for Society will be right back after these messages.

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But when I tell you I could not move, I

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could not move. I was trying to look at my

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friend Kelly, and she was lit up like a big light.

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It's hard to explain. Her whole outliner of her body

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was like lit up. And then all of a sudden,

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I was released, and I remember falling to my knees

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and then I got up and I was like, what happened?

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And at one point one of.

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The guys said that there was a lot of them

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out there in the woods, and also that night, I

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think there was more people that had come along, And

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this is part of what I think I've blocked out.

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There was more people there that night than was supposed

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to be.

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So it was time to go, and we all got

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in the vehicles and I was in one truck. There

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was this one guy and his dog and another guy,

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and then I think I was, uh, there was maybe one.

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Two, three, four. So the way that we came in

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it was not blocked. This happened at Boyk and Springs

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and I forgot. I think the pond is called it's

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not called Kelly's Pond, Sexton Pond. I don't know. I

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would have to look it up. But that was something

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nothing has ever happened to me like that. It was energetic,

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it was supernatural. It did not hurt me, but I

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was clear clearly frozen, and then I was released. I

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could feel it, and I don't know why.

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My friend that I was looking at she also got affected.

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I don't remember if she couldn't move, but I know

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I couldn't. And I remember that when we all left,

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someone said it's time to go, and.

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There was I think there was. They were looking through

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their night vision and they could see multiple beings in

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the woods. And when we left, the entryway was blocked off,

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and I know they got out and cleared it.

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And that's really all that I remember from that night.

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I do know that one chased one of my colleagues

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to his truck.

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And I think it took a swap at him, or

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it chased him to the truck. I think it happened

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that night. That could have.

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Happened on a different night, but that night, other things

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happened to other people, and they've actually talked about it

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on podcasts and after that I did not go back

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into the woods.

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For a couple of months.

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And then in two thousand and two, I became pregnant

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with my second child, and I was out in Oklahoma

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researching up until like seven and a half. Men'ths eight

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months being pregnant, and finally, you know, I just obviously

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I couldn't go out into the field.

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And then around that time my.

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Husband was active duty and I had been researching like

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maybe five years now. My mentality at that time was

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that I never believed that they were a running around

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in the woods.

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Instinctively, instinctively I knew that, and I knew that they

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were flesh and blood. That was because that is what

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I was taught. That is how the group of people felt,

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I think.

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And so my husband got transferred to North Idaho to

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run the the unit of the motor pool, I think,

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is what you call it.

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So I had quit my career and.

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We moved up north, and I was going to be

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done researching because at that time I thought they were aggressive,

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and now I don't think that today. I think there's

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different types, But because of what I had experienced first

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in the field, I didn't.

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Think any differently. I just thought that a lot of

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them were pretty aggressive.

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But I can tell you that I have been to

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Southeast Oklahoma and I have had multiple encounters there as well.

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I've been chased out on horseback where I saw something

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dark running to the side of me and my dog

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and horse just whipped around and.

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My horse ran back to camp. There was a group

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of people that took off to go horseback writing, and

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my husband was one of them. I stayed back. I

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don't remember which horse. I think it was JJ, my

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paint and I don't know.

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We just went up this hill and the next thing

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I know, he just whipped around, and my dog also

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had sent something and I smelt something, and I can

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only describe it as like cinnamon.

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I mean, I don't.

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Know that smell would come back over many many times.

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Other people have told me maybe it's a floral smell.

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I have smelt the.

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Ugly smell too on other occasions, so I don't know

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why there's different smells or if it has anything to

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do with the topic at all, But I just know

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that I noticed there was a smell when I had

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a encounter, and so I spent a ton of time

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up in Southeast Oklahoma and then after that.

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Happened to me in Texas, I was like going to be.

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Done writing, and my husband went up to North Idaho

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first to find a place for us to live, and

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I stayed.

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Back to train someone for my job I had.

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I gave notice six months and I worked in Dallas.

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And my children at that time were like seven eight

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and no, let's see seven, and then my younger son

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was born, so there is a span there. And my horses,

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I noticed some patterns.

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In the mornings, I would go feed them out in

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the pasture and in the back of the pasture is

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a ton of woods.

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And I have been back there with the TBRC, who

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was Craig and Luke at that time, and we did

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find some things. And even years later Craig would say, hey,

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where is that area back of your property? I'm going

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to take some people back there. So there was some

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happening in the back of our ranch there in East Texas.

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But I did notice that my horse's manes were kind

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of messed up, and I don't want.

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To say it was braided. Some people called it a

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braid or which is not. But I know what a

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typical knot is because we had bar byer I hated

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the bar byer, but these were different. But what was

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disturbing was the tails. The hair was parted their tails

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like something would part their tails.

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We've had three horses to nine horses at various times,

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so we would explore that. Later people would have these

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guys that grew up on ranches. I had a opinion.

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One of them had an opinion about it, which is

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pretty disturbing. However, my horse was fine. He was not traumatized.

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I don't think so. So I did notice that.

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But we really explore until I had moved to Idaho

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and the same thing was happening there. So that is

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my I guess, my.

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Version of what happened to me starting out in East

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Texas and Oklahoma. So eventually my husband did find a home,

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and I specifically told him no house in the woods

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because we were hauling three horses up there, and there

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was still a couple of horses left that were my

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other family members. So it was like May, No, it

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was February or March. He found a home and he

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sent me the picture. It was on six acres and

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it's beautiful up there.

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But the problem was is that it was in the woods,

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and I just was. I just said no, keep looking,

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and he said, well, there's really nothing left. This is

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what we can afford. Because we still had our our

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home in East Texas that we had to figure out

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what we were going to do with because obviously we

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couldn't affordeen mortgages and I was quitting my career, so

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things were going to be tight. So he put an

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offer down on the house and they accepted it and

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I arrived up at North Idaho with our horses. It

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took us four days to get up to North Iideoho.

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Cindy, this is an incredible story so far. I mean,

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you've been, You've hit all the places that people that

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are in the Bigfoot like they want to go to

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the East Texas to Southeast Oklahoma. And maybe I'm just

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talking for myself there, but you know, you're talking about

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that horse incident. And I've also taken reports like that

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from Southeast Iowa as well. It is a little unsettling,

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specifically Van Buren County. There's a lot of things that

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seem to be going on there. But when you were

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in Southeast Okaholma, and I guess this could be anywhere.

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Was there ever a time where something happened to you.

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You were involved with a situation with a sasquatch where

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it just it got very intense. You're like, you know,

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at the point where if I could just get out

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of here right now, just time to go.

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Well, I can talk about the Hanobia incident, the Siege

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of Honobia, if you want me to a little bit.

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So, I mean, I really don't know anything about your

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history at all. Were you involved with the siege a Honobia?

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No, I just was in the area writing all the

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time at the time that that happened, I think it

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was two thousand.

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But my aunt knew. My aunt knew that family, and

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she speaks very highly of them. So what how end

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is that we were going up to Oklahoma at least

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every couple of months to ride. In October, my husband

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was there for like a month. But we would go

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there obviously like in fall when it was cooler, and

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you know, I know we've gone in summer a couple

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of times, so my aunt, you know, sometimes we would

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leave the horses that at.

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Camp and somebody would stay at camp and I might

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stay at camp. Then my husband would drive to tallahe

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nan see his aunt and then vice versa. Then I

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would go because someone would have to stay with the horses,

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and if we were with a team of people, then

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we could both go. So the story that happened the

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Siege of Honobi Honobi involved a family where these Sasquatches

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were coming to their property and the children had seen them, and.

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There was you know, these are just regular guys that

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are smart. They're not a bunch of dumb hicks that

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others have, you know, or this organization I guess that

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came in, that BFRO came in and tried to help them.

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I know, I've read the bfro's story.

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Anyone can go read it and it's a great story.

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But you know, these are people that are hunt.

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They hunt, they have jobs, good jobs, and they have children,

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they have lives just like anyone. So they were living

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on this property and the Sascatches were coming in and

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they were they were a problem, and they were this

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family just wanted them gone. They did not want them

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to be researched.

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They wanted them gone, you know, like they they are,

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like I said, So they reached out to the BFROO

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who came in and they took their report, and you know,

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it got to a point to where these two brothers.

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One of them shot one and then I mean it

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went out and I know there's more to the story.

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I'm actually friends with one of the brothers and he

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just doesn't They don't want to talk about it, and

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they were put through the ring or basically possibly because

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how the whole thing was handled. I don't know, but

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I know they were not happy with how it was handled.

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You know, everybody's got opinions, but I don't blame them.

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How you know, people just want to be left alone

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when you reach out to someone for help, and then

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you know, people come out and they want to study them,

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dissect whole situation, you know.

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So I wasn't there, but I can't tell you that

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it's a true story, and you know, people have opinions

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about it. My aunt called me and said, hey, I

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really don't want you, you know, like, have you heard

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about what's happening out here? And I'm like, what are

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you talking about now? I had started researching when we

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were going out there. I was fully aware of what

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was happening out there. But she had a conversation with

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one of the family members, one of the wives. I

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don't remember who which wife it was, but she told

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me the.

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Story or some of the story, and she said that

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she totally believed them, and then I think it was

468
00:29:53.759 --> 00:29:54.680
hyped up or something.

469
00:29:54.799 --> 00:29:56.039
I don't know the story.

470
00:29:56.400 --> 00:30:02.480
It is just you know, it's unfortunate, how you know,

471
00:30:02.880 --> 00:30:06.039
something more positive didn't come out of it, but I

472
00:30:06.079 --> 00:30:11.680
think it was positive on another note, So yes, that

473
00:30:11.839 --> 00:30:13.839
is a true story.

474
00:30:13.880 --> 00:30:17.599
And I guess there was a lot of friction there

475
00:30:17.680 --> 00:30:20.720
with the bf for the BFRO that had come in.

476
00:30:21.799 --> 00:30:24.880
I know Matt money Naker has done a lot of work.

477
00:30:26.200 --> 00:30:29.920
On his site. His site was one of the first

478
00:30:29.960 --> 00:30:32.759
ones up. It has brought a lot of awareness to

479
00:30:32.839 --> 00:30:33.279
the topic.

480
00:30:33.839 --> 00:30:37.160
Big for society will be right back after these messages.

481
00:30:52.680 --> 00:30:54.119
I can totally, you know, get that.

482
00:30:54.799 --> 00:30:58.759
So I don't know, but you know, I wasn't there,

483
00:30:59.799 --> 00:31:02.319
so I really can't say yes or no about anything.

484
00:31:03.960 --> 00:31:07.119
So you know, it's it's just unfortunate that they had

485
00:31:07.119 --> 00:31:10.039
to kill one. But it was it was coming around

486
00:31:10.079 --> 00:31:14.640
and banging on their house, scaring the family members and

487
00:31:15.640 --> 00:31:19.640
then that happened, and it's it's unfortunate, but I mean,

488
00:31:20.480 --> 00:31:23.960
if you know, they were protecting themselves. Some people said

489
00:31:23.960 --> 00:31:27.640
that they asked for it, but I don't think so.

490
00:31:28.279 --> 00:31:31.200
But that's just my opinion. You know again, I wasn't there.

491
00:31:32.160 --> 00:31:37.519
These are upstanding people. So anyway, as far as that

492
00:31:37.599 --> 00:31:41.359
whole topic goes, I was there writing, like all the

493
00:31:41.440 --> 00:31:45.240
time I have had something, something's happened to me. Where

494
00:31:45.240 --> 00:31:45.799
I told you.

495
00:31:47.359 --> 00:31:51.039
We had gone up writing and we were with a

496
00:31:51.079 --> 00:31:54.839
group of people and sometimes some of us would stay back,

497
00:31:54.920 --> 00:31:58.839
and like my worst was almost a perfect horse where

498
00:31:58.880 --> 00:32:00.079
anyone could ride.

499
00:32:00.240 --> 00:32:01.839
And I looked high and.

500
00:32:01.799 --> 00:32:04.079
Low for this horse because I had a questry an

501
00:32:04.119 --> 00:32:08.519
accident I think in nineteen ninety seven, and I refused

502
00:32:08.519 --> 00:32:11.759
her get back on another horse. I was dragged by

503
00:32:11.799 --> 00:32:12.720
a horse.

504
00:32:13.079 --> 00:32:16.799
And I had to roll under the I broke my foot,

505
00:32:17.000 --> 00:32:20.799
and yeah, it was this horrible experience. So it took

506
00:32:20.839 --> 00:32:23.160
me a long time to find my horse, like maybe

507
00:32:23.200 --> 00:32:27.400
six months, and my husband would bring home a horse

508
00:32:28.000 --> 00:32:30.799
that he thought would be good for me, which it

509
00:32:30.920 --> 00:32:34.200
doesn't work like that. You have to find your own

510
00:32:34.400 --> 00:32:36.480
horse to ride, you have to bond with, you have

511
00:32:36.519 --> 00:32:39.440
to find the animal that's right for you. Anyone who

512
00:32:41.119 --> 00:32:46.519
rides might tell you that. So we were up there

513
00:32:46.559 --> 00:32:48.680
in October and my end had called me in. That

514
00:32:48.799 --> 00:32:53.720
was when I had She had said, hey, you don't

515
00:32:53.759 --> 00:32:55.160
need to be riding up here.

516
00:32:56.119 --> 00:32:58.799
Well actually I don't know what month it was, but

517
00:33:01.319 --> 00:33:03.559
when we would go up there riding as a group,

518
00:33:04.119 --> 00:33:07.279
so I did not go. I said I would stay back,

519
00:33:07.359 --> 00:33:11.240
and I took my horse up this one way and

520
00:33:12.960 --> 00:33:15.000
I think it was jaj the horse that I found,

521
00:33:15.640 --> 00:33:20.279
and we went up, me and my dog, who was

522
00:33:20.359 --> 00:33:22.839
part coyote, a really really good dog.

523
00:33:23.359 --> 00:33:26.720
She was walking next to me.

524
00:33:27.039 --> 00:33:29.440
And then I got to the top of this hill

525
00:33:30.039 --> 00:33:33.079
and I don't know what happened. I just smelt like

526
00:33:33.119 --> 00:33:37.000
the smell and then my horse's flank started ticking, which

527
00:33:37.079 --> 00:33:43.079
clearly is a something is happening. He whipped around, and

528
00:33:43.359 --> 00:33:46.680
my dog just took off down over logs. And when

529
00:33:46.680 --> 00:33:49.200
I got down to camp, I mean I just let

530
00:33:49.279 --> 00:33:52.079
him run and he took me back to camp and.

531
00:33:52.440 --> 00:33:55.400
There was this chalk top. I think it was trac

532
00:33:55.480 --> 00:33:58.359
top person that was there, and I did not know

533
00:33:58.599 --> 00:34:02.519
who they were, but I remember that he said something

534
00:34:02.559 --> 00:34:06.000
to me, and I think that we took we took

535
00:34:06.039 --> 00:34:10.239
my horse down into the creek. If I'm correct. That

536
00:34:10.360 --> 00:34:15.159
was a crazy day. My horse was fine eventually, But

537
00:34:17.000 --> 00:34:23.840
so that is why I don't know about like.

538
00:34:23.880 --> 00:34:26.440
If they're messing with the horses with the remains entails,

539
00:34:26.599 --> 00:34:29.679
because I've seen that up while we're camping, when we

540
00:34:29.719 --> 00:34:32.280
have tied our horses up, like I've seen the remains

541
00:34:32.320 --> 00:34:33.000
like right.

542
00:34:32.840 --> 00:34:35.920
Outside, because we had this big horse trailer. So we

543
00:34:35.960 --> 00:34:38.199
would sleep on the horse trailer and the horses were

544
00:34:38.239 --> 00:34:40.239
tied up right through in the back, and I would

545
00:34:40.239 --> 00:34:43.360
wake up and you know, there would be footprints, and

546
00:34:43.800 --> 00:34:46.320
you know, I'm like, okay, we I didn't hear a sound.

547
00:34:46.960 --> 00:34:51.519
And then another time I was camping with not with

548
00:34:51.559 --> 00:34:53.960
a group. It was just me and my husband and

549
00:34:54.760 --> 00:34:57.039
I don't know if we had a horse's I don't know.

550
00:34:57.280 --> 00:34:59.400
We did not, so it was my husband and me

551
00:34:59.719 --> 00:35:04.679
and my older son. My younger son wasn't born yet,

552
00:35:04.840 --> 00:35:06.800
so we were in.

553
00:35:06.719 --> 00:35:09.679
Our tent and my husband always has a big.

554
00:35:09.599 --> 00:35:12.840
Rifle and a pistol or something. So we were asleep

555
00:35:12.840 --> 00:35:15.000
at night and I was on cock. We only had

556
00:35:15.079 --> 00:35:22.920
one cock. I'll never forget this. Around midnight, I could.

557
00:35:22.760 --> 00:35:27.360
Hear the holls and it started like at two o'clock,

558
00:35:28.800 --> 00:35:32.280
and then later like at two hours later. It was

559
00:35:32.360 --> 00:35:37.079
like at six o'clock. And then I sat straight up

560
00:35:37.119 --> 00:35:41.480
in bed because they came that close. They were howling.

561
00:35:41.960 --> 00:35:45.360
And my husband, who is not into this topic, but

562
00:35:45.920 --> 00:35:50.559
he does believe, he just doesn't care to talk about it.

563
00:35:50.559 --> 00:35:54.239
He doesn't go out with me researching. He has heard things.

564
00:35:54.400 --> 00:35:58.000
And he has had a visual what I believe, which

565
00:35:58.039 --> 00:36:01.320
I will tell you because it actually happened there in

566
00:36:01.360 --> 00:36:06.199
southeast Oklahoma. And I will tell you that after because

567
00:36:06.239 --> 00:36:10.119
I was pregnant in two thousand and two. So this night,

568
00:36:10.159 --> 00:36:13.760
while we were camping, this was in the earlier two thousands,

569
00:36:13.840 --> 00:36:16.679
I had already been researching and.

570
00:36:18.000 --> 00:36:21.719
They started going off, so I knew exactly what was happening.

571
00:36:21.719 --> 00:36:24.960
But then I noticed that they were surrounding us, but

572
00:36:25.119 --> 00:36:28.800
not aggressively, just like hey, we're here. But still it

573
00:36:29.000 --> 00:36:30.400
was freaking me out a little bit.

574
00:36:30.440 --> 00:36:34.000
And at one point my husband sat straight up and

575
00:36:34.159 --> 00:36:36.880
he got out of the tent and he opened up

576
00:36:36.920 --> 00:36:41.199
the truck because at my our truck was going it

577
00:36:41.239 --> 00:36:43.760
was dinging, it was going Dan ding ding, And he

578
00:36:43.840 --> 00:36:45.840
pulled out his big rifle, and you know, I could

579
00:36:45.880 --> 00:36:49.760
hear him like check out, and then he closed the

580
00:36:49.840 --> 00:36:51.840
door and he was standing out there for a little bit,

581
00:36:52.480 --> 00:36:53.920
and then I didn't say anything.

582
00:36:54.760 --> 00:36:58.159
Then he came back to bed, and I got no sleep.

583
00:36:58.199 --> 00:37:00.840
That night and then it was six am and it

584
00:37:00.920 --> 00:37:04.880
was I think it was still dark and or it

585
00:37:04.960 --> 00:37:07.320
was getting like daybreak, and I could hear them like

586
00:37:07.400 --> 00:37:11.519
that was the final. All night long they were going off.

587
00:37:11.639 --> 00:37:13.559
I got no sleep that night.

588
00:37:13.920 --> 00:37:18.280
And I remember falling asleep around six or six thirty am,

589
00:37:18.599 --> 00:37:21.280
and I didn't wake up till like nine because I

590
00:37:21.320 --> 00:37:24.639
remember it was sunshiny and I was like, oh my gosh,

591
00:37:24.639 --> 00:37:28.079
I looked at the time. I will never forget that night.

592
00:37:28.519 --> 00:37:31.519
Now. There was no visual that night, but there was.

593
00:37:31.920 --> 00:37:34.480
I know what those sounds are. I mean, that was

594
00:37:34.679 --> 00:37:41.280
the typical sirens sound howls going in circling us all

595
00:37:41.519 --> 00:37:45.559
night long. They never came in too too close.

596
00:37:46.480 --> 00:37:49.639
And then eventually they were off in the distance and

597
00:37:50.159 --> 00:37:53.280
it was daybreak and that was that and I was done.

598
00:37:53.480 --> 00:37:56.599
I was done. That was it. I was not going

599
00:37:56.639 --> 00:38:02.079
to go back there. I don't think that this. I

600
00:38:02.079 --> 00:38:04.599
think that this was before the Honobia incident.

601
00:38:05.840 --> 00:38:08.599
Another time when we were there, I had to go

602
00:38:08.719 --> 00:38:11.679
get my inhaler and I think where we parked, I

603
00:38:11.760 --> 00:38:12.880
had to hike through.

604
00:38:12.800 --> 00:38:15.519
The woods a little bit. And I don't know why

605
00:38:15.559 --> 00:38:18.360
that is, because normally we'll park like where we set

606
00:38:18.400 --> 00:38:20.800
up camp, but I remember I had to hike through

607
00:38:20.800 --> 00:38:24.800
the woods to get my inhaler from my truck, and

608
00:38:25.000 --> 00:38:26.760
we did. I think we had a horses there at

609
00:38:26.760 --> 00:38:29.880
that time, and something was following me in the woods,

610
00:38:30.000 --> 00:38:32.119
like flanking me. I stopped.

611
00:38:32.280 --> 00:38:35.159
It stopped, and I knew exactly what was happening, because

612
00:38:35.280 --> 00:38:38.159
by this time I was deep into research and.

613
00:38:38.840 --> 00:38:44.440
I wasn't too afraid. I think, I really don't remember

614
00:38:44.800 --> 00:38:46.840
that something was definitely there.

615
00:38:47.320 --> 00:38:50.480
There was no visual, but I could feel something was there.

616
00:38:50.519 --> 00:38:53.280
I could hear it, something walking next to me.

617
00:38:53.920 --> 00:38:56.440
And I opened up my truck, I got my inhaler,

618
00:38:56.760 --> 00:38:59.400
and I walked back to camp.

619
00:38:59.440 --> 00:39:02.039
But I don't think that they followed me back. I

620
00:39:02.119 --> 00:39:04.880
don't remember, but I know that when I did go

621
00:39:04.960 --> 00:39:08.079
to my truck that I was hearing noises. So I've

622
00:39:08.079 --> 00:39:10.119
had many different encounters there.

623
00:39:11.400 --> 00:39:15.599
And I did reach out to one of the brothers

624
00:39:15.639 --> 00:39:18.480
and I said, hey, my aunt knows your family.

625
00:39:19.079 --> 00:39:22.440
But at that time it was very raw and they

626
00:39:22.480 --> 00:39:23.719
were not even opened.

627
00:39:23.960 --> 00:39:26.760
You know, he didn't know me, and.

628
00:39:26.639 --> 00:39:30.199
So he wasn't exactly receptive to me wanting to talk

629
00:39:30.239 --> 00:39:34.039
to him, and I totally get it.

630
00:39:34.639 --> 00:39:38.840
So I think it was later that you.

631
00:39:38.880 --> 00:39:41.119
Know, we were able to message back and forth and

632
00:39:41.159 --> 00:39:44.480
I said, hey, my aunt knows your family, and I said,

633
00:39:44.599 --> 00:39:48.519
my aunt, she's a broker here in Tallahena, and so

634
00:39:49.639 --> 00:39:54.840
you know, she completely said this is true, and so they.

635
00:39:54.800 --> 00:40:00.239
Just got a they just had a bad receptive to it,

636
00:40:00.800 --> 00:40:04.440
I think, in my opinion, even though the BFUR did.

637
00:40:04.679 --> 00:40:07.800
Do a pretty good report, but I don't think that.

638
00:40:07.960 --> 00:40:12.320
I mean, obviously they don't. You know, they weren't. This

639
00:40:12.440 --> 00:40:14.800
family was not happy with or at least I know

640
00:40:15.320 --> 00:40:17.880
one of the brothers that I know was not happy.

641
00:40:17.920 --> 00:40:20.960
So it's not like we're close friends or anything, but

642
00:40:21.599 --> 00:40:25.039
I do know that, you know, that is how they

643
00:40:25.079 --> 00:40:28.280
felt or I mean, I can't speak for them, but

644
00:40:29.719 --> 00:40:33.840
that did, you know, have a very unsettling feeling with me.

645
00:40:34.440 --> 00:40:38.039
So those so those are some of the.

646
00:40:38.079 --> 00:40:42.920
Encounters in Southeast Oklahoma. Another time, this is the last Well, no.

647
00:40:43.239 --> 00:40:46.280
I forgot. I was going to tell you my husband's encounters.

648
00:40:46.320 --> 00:40:49.280
So in two thousand and two, I got pregnant and

649
00:40:49.400 --> 00:40:53.559
my husband left East Texas with two friends and hauled

650
00:40:53.679 --> 00:40:57.280
our horses up to Southeast Oklahoma. I stayed home. I

651
00:40:57.320 --> 00:41:00.440
couldn't ride. I was bigger than a house I think

652
00:41:00.480 --> 00:41:03.440
I was like eight months pregnant and I had just

653
00:41:03.480 --> 00:41:06.199
come back from a research trip, and yeah, there was

654
00:41:06.239 --> 00:41:06.639
no way.

655
00:41:08.239 --> 00:41:11.920
So they were writing. They were writing this pathway.

656
00:41:11.800 --> 00:41:14.239
And then the path went to the trail went to

657
00:41:14.280 --> 00:41:17.360
the left, and when it curved to the left, our

658
00:41:17.360 --> 00:41:19.679
two friends were ahead, and then my husband was last.

659
00:41:19.960 --> 00:41:22.440
And then there was like a fire break that went

660
00:41:22.559 --> 00:41:26.400
straight up in the mountain. And when he went around

661
00:41:26.440 --> 00:41:29.920
the curb, something was standing there on two legs. I

662
00:41:29.960 --> 00:41:33.400
remember he said it was he could see a third standing.

663
00:41:33.719 --> 00:41:35.760
He said it was not a bear, and it wasn't

664
00:41:35.800 --> 00:41:38.679
a it wasn't a deer, and it was black and white.

665
00:41:39.559 --> 00:41:43.360
I think it was gray or it was. I totally

666
00:41:43.559 --> 00:41:44.559
forgot about the color.

667
00:41:45.079 --> 00:41:49.360
But he saw what he saw. He didn't say it

668
00:41:49.400 --> 00:41:52.320
looked like his sasquatch. He didn't even mention the word.

669
00:41:53.440 --> 00:41:56.039
But what happened is that I stayed home, and that

670
00:41:56.119 --> 00:41:59.639
the next when they when they returned home, our friend

671
00:42:00.159 --> 00:42:03.880
Joe came in the house and he said, hey, something happened.

672
00:42:04.760 --> 00:42:09.880
Your husband saw something. And so my husband told me

673
00:42:09.960 --> 00:42:12.280
the story. But he said, I'm going to tell you

674
00:42:12.320 --> 00:42:15.159
this one time, because he knew I was going to

675
00:42:15.159 --> 00:42:17.480
get excited because I wanted him to have the encounter

676
00:42:17.840 --> 00:42:21.199
because I was going out so much that and.

677
00:42:21.159 --> 00:42:27.000
With his schedule being active duty military. I mean it

678
00:42:27.079 --> 00:42:31.519
was I was obsessive, obsessive about the topics starting out.

679
00:42:31.920 --> 00:42:35.480
So he was not exactly happy with me, and I

680
00:42:35.480 --> 00:42:38.840
mean he just yeah, So his outlook on this, he

681
00:42:38.960 --> 00:42:39.719
was very annoyed.

682
00:42:39.760 --> 00:42:42.679
He really doesn't to this day he really cared to

683
00:42:42.719 --> 00:42:45.800
talk about the topic, even though all these things have happened.

684
00:42:46.239 --> 00:42:49.280
So my husband did have that encounter. He told me

685
00:42:49.320 --> 00:42:56.840
the story and I wrote it down and.

686
00:42:54.880 --> 00:42:57.039
That was so that was basically his encounter.

687
00:42:58.159 --> 00:43:02.760
Another time we were out in the somewhere in East Texas.

688
00:43:02.800 --> 00:43:07.599
It was not Southeast Oklahoma as far as Southeast Oklahoma goes.

689
00:43:07.679 --> 00:43:11.400
I spent so much time there writing and just camping

690
00:43:11.440 --> 00:43:16.079
there and going to visit family and having multiple different experiences.

691
00:43:16.440 --> 00:43:20.840
Like I said, you know, an encounter doesn't necessarily include

692
00:43:20.880 --> 00:43:27.119
a visual. I've heard every single sound there. One time

693
00:43:27.400 --> 00:43:31.079
we were there with the group and at night time

694
00:43:31.760 --> 00:43:34.760
there was like eighty of us there and I don't

695
00:43:34.760 --> 00:43:37.719
know what year this was, but it had to have

696
00:43:37.760 --> 00:43:40.559
been sometime from ninety nine to two thousand and three.

697
00:43:41.400 --> 00:43:48.960
So this one night we were all playing music. Somebody

698
00:43:49.039 --> 00:43:53.159
was playing their guitar, and then we would play games,

699
00:43:53.559 --> 00:43:55.400
and there was this one guy who would give me

700
00:43:55.480 --> 00:43:59.239
so much. He would give me such a hard time

701
00:43:59.280 --> 00:43:59.840
about the top.

702
00:44:00.760 --> 00:44:06.440
So I was like, okay, well, you know, I'll show

703
00:44:06.519 --> 00:44:10.000
you so because we were playing this game and there

704
00:44:10.039 --> 00:44:12.119
was a question that involved SaaS quats, and of course

705
00:44:12.239 --> 00:44:14.840
I raised my hand and I said the answer. And

706
00:44:14.880 --> 00:44:16.920
then you know, some of the guys were giving me

707
00:44:16.960 --> 00:44:19.239
a heard time, but this one guy just rubbed me

708
00:44:19.239 --> 00:44:19.880
the wrong way.

709
00:44:20.159 --> 00:44:24.119
And I don't remember what his name was. But later

710
00:44:24.199 --> 00:44:26.599
that night I did make some calls.

711
00:44:28.199 --> 00:44:30.440
I don't do that today, I mean, not really, but

712
00:44:30.519 --> 00:44:33.119
at that time, again my mentality was that they were

713
00:44:33.199 --> 00:44:37.440
flesh and blood only and there were something, you know,

714
00:44:37.599 --> 00:44:42.079
not a necessarily not necessarily an ape, but they were

715
00:44:42.239 --> 00:44:46.599
some type of species. So when we were in bed

716
00:44:46.679 --> 00:44:49.280
later that night, I think I had made a call earlier.

717
00:44:50.239 --> 00:44:53.039
And then it was sometime in the early morning that

718
00:44:53.519 --> 00:44:54.760
you could hear them coming in.

719
00:44:54.880 --> 00:44:58.199
We were sleeping in the good snack about horse.

720
00:44:57.960 --> 00:45:01.239
Trailer and you could hear, I mean, and they were shrieking,

721
00:45:02.320 --> 00:45:05.000
and they got closer, and then it every I mean

722
00:45:05.039 --> 00:45:06.320
people came out of their tents.

723
00:45:07.119 --> 00:45:10.679
I think it was close to dawn, and I was like,

724
00:45:10.880 --> 00:45:13.360
oh my god, but I hope I didn't do that.

725
00:45:14.239 --> 00:45:16.880
My husband looked at me, and then from that point

726
00:45:16.920 --> 00:45:19.800
on he said, would we go camping?

727
00:45:20.039 --> 00:45:24.360
No bigfooting stuff. So on some days we would ride,

728
00:45:24.519 --> 00:45:28.039
like fifty of us would ride, and there would be

729
00:45:28.079 --> 00:45:31.400
a jeep in the back with drinks and food. And

730
00:45:31.480 --> 00:45:34.599
some days I would ride like thirty miles or thirty

731
00:45:34.599 --> 00:45:38.360
five miles, and then I would stay back at camp

732
00:45:38.440 --> 00:45:40.559
so if someone else could use my horse, and then

733
00:45:40.760 --> 00:45:43.239
you know, I would stay with my child and I

734
00:45:43.280 --> 00:45:47.920
would help watch other children possibly. So I spent a

735
00:45:47.960 --> 00:45:49.159
ton of time up there.

736
00:45:49.760 --> 00:45:53.880
And you know, this is before that area even became

737
00:45:54.280 --> 00:45:58.280
you know, like famous or would like it is today big.

738
00:45:58.159 --> 00:46:05.320
For society will be right back after that these messages.

739
00:46:16.880 --> 00:46:20.519
So my husband had that encounter, and so I was

740
00:46:20.599 --> 00:46:23.840
really really happy. Now going back to the big Thicket.

741
00:46:24.320 --> 00:46:27.400
We would trailer our horses there, me and him, and

742
00:46:27.440 --> 00:46:29.960
we would take our horse trailer. We would sleep inside

743
00:46:29.960 --> 00:46:33.199
the goose neck. Our horse trailer was like thirty feet long.

744
00:46:33.800 --> 00:46:37.239
And by this time I had done a time. I

745
00:46:37.239 --> 00:46:39.639
mean I had spent thousands of hours out in the woods.

746
00:46:39.679 --> 00:46:43.199
I had seen it all, done it all, you know.

747
00:46:44.119 --> 00:46:48.000
I had seen all kinds of structures, tepees, big tps.

748
00:46:48.039 --> 00:46:50.880
In East Texas we would find a lot of small

749
00:46:50.960 --> 00:46:53.360
tepees like I don't even see that up in North

750
00:46:53.360 --> 00:46:57.960
Idahoma where I live now, But in East Texas we

751
00:46:57.960 --> 00:47:02.079
would like this one day down a whole bunch of

752
00:47:02.199 --> 00:47:06.960
small tps like maybe two feet high, and they were

753
00:47:06.960 --> 00:47:09.199
destroyed the next day. And I think someone had gone

754
00:47:09.239 --> 00:47:11.320
to talk to one of the park rangers. I could

755
00:47:11.400 --> 00:47:14.880
be wrong, but I didn't go talk with a park ranger.

756
00:47:15.400 --> 00:47:20.400
But the TV's were like destroyed the next day because

757
00:47:20.800 --> 00:47:25.519
I remember people went to go look to research because

758
00:47:25.559 --> 00:47:28.239
there were other things that had been found also. I

759
00:47:28.280 --> 00:47:30.880
don't know if that was a trackway or prints or

760
00:47:30.920 --> 00:47:35.000
if there was some other interesting structures, but they had

761
00:47:35.000 --> 00:47:37.800
gone back to this area and they did discover where

762
00:47:37.840 --> 00:47:40.440
a lot of this stuff had been destroyed. Who did it,

763
00:47:40.800 --> 00:47:41.440
we don't know.

764
00:47:41.760 --> 00:47:43.760
I think there were some footprints that had that had

765
00:47:43.800 --> 00:47:46.480
been like scratched out, you.

766
00:47:46.400 --> 00:47:49.280
Know, very very interesting. I spent a lot of time

767
00:47:49.320 --> 00:47:51.199
in the Sam Houston National Forest as.

768
00:47:51.039 --> 00:47:54.880
Well, but Boykin Springs is for some reason.

769
00:47:54.920 --> 00:47:57.840
I remember that area quite a bit because that's where

770
00:47:57.880 --> 00:48:02.159
I had that encounter where I was frozen, and I

771
00:48:02.159 --> 00:48:06.719
didn't go back into the woods for a while. This

772
00:48:06.840 --> 00:48:10.920
one trip, we went somewhere. I don't remember where we went,

773
00:48:11.480 --> 00:48:14.440
but me and my husband went. We took both of

774
00:48:14.440 --> 00:48:17.320
our horses, my horse JJ. My husband had a thoroughbread

775
00:48:18.280 --> 00:48:22.760
and we got there in the evening time and he

776
00:48:22.880 --> 00:48:25.920
made a fire. I said, hey, can you make a fire?

777
00:48:26.360 --> 00:48:28.880
I think it was fall because it was a little

778
00:48:29.079 --> 00:48:33.719
chilli And he said, well, yeah, but I mean, you know,

779
00:48:33.800 --> 00:48:35.679
like it's like we're going to stay out here and

780
00:48:35.840 --> 00:48:39.760
enjoy us. Because I was really bad about Okay, I'm

781
00:48:39.760 --> 00:48:42.920
going to bed, but there was always people there to

782
00:48:42.920 --> 00:48:44.639
hang out with them, you know, to enjoy the fire.

783
00:48:45.039 --> 00:48:47.480
But this night he had made the fire and we

784
00:48:47.480 --> 00:48:51.440
were sitting sitting around. I was laying against my saddle.

785
00:48:51.519 --> 00:48:53.400
Our horses had been tied up in the back of

786
00:48:53.440 --> 00:48:57.039
the trailer. They had been fed, watered everything. They were

787
00:48:57.079 --> 00:48:59.320
tied up in the back of the trailer and it

788
00:48:59.400 --> 00:49:03.199
was dark, and all of a sudden I hear the

789
00:49:03.199 --> 00:49:08.880
most beautiful choir of.

790
00:49:11.119 --> 00:49:14.559
I hate to say a how because that sounds animalistic,

791
00:49:15.960 --> 00:49:20.679
but it was. It was with human components to it.

792
00:49:21.679 --> 00:49:27.280
And when I say human components, because it sounded different octaves,

793
00:49:27.679 --> 00:49:33.119
you could I mean, they were going. I can't even

794
00:49:34.079 --> 00:49:38.239
mimic it to you, but let me just say it's

795
00:49:38.360 --> 00:49:45.039
like the cyben sound, which on different octaves, and you

796
00:49:45.079 --> 00:49:51.480
could tell which one was more male, and then you

797
00:49:51.519 --> 00:49:55.079
could hear the feminine the feminine ones. And let me

798
00:49:55.119 --> 00:49:57.119
tell you what we were in the middle of forest.

799
00:49:57.679 --> 00:50:01.599
I don't know what group of choir beings would be

800
00:50:01.639 --> 00:50:03.400
out there, but I could tell you one thing.

801
00:50:03.440 --> 00:50:08.000
It wasn't humans, or at least It's really hard to describe.

802
00:50:08.360 --> 00:50:11.239
But I looked at my at my husband and I said,

803
00:50:11.280 --> 00:50:14.320
what the heck is that? He goes, Oh my god,

804
00:50:14.519 --> 00:50:18.840
are you serious? I was like, listen, He's like what,

805
00:50:19.000 --> 00:50:22.239
who cares? Because he knew what was coming. I was

806
00:50:22.320 --> 00:50:25.960
going to get scared, and sure enough, fifteen minutes later,

807
00:50:26.719 --> 00:50:29.719
I said, well, okay, no, I'm good, I'm going inside.

808
00:50:29.800 --> 00:50:34.760
It was dark, the fire was roaring, and it was big.

809
00:50:35.239 --> 00:50:37.920
He stayed outside for a little bit. I did open

810
00:50:37.960 --> 00:50:39.599
the door so.

811
00:50:39.559 --> 00:50:42.920
I could enjoy the fire, and he had his pistol

812
00:50:42.960 --> 00:50:45.159
out so I wouldn't be afraid, like I look back

813
00:50:45.239 --> 00:50:47.679
now and I just rolled my eyes, thinking, golly, what

814
00:50:47.800 --> 00:50:55.440
you know now? So that choir sound went until sometime

815
00:50:55.440 --> 00:50:57.320
in the morning, because I know I fell asleep.

816
00:50:57.880 --> 00:51:00.039
I wasn't so scared that I said let's go. So

817
00:51:01.880 --> 00:51:03.920
the next day when we woke up.

818
00:51:03.880 --> 00:51:06.840
Our horses were gone, and let me tell you what,

819
00:51:07.280 --> 00:51:10.320
they were tied up with good knots. Both of them

820
00:51:10.360 --> 00:51:16.000
were gone, and my husband went to get them. I

821
00:51:16.000 --> 00:51:19.519
think a truck passed by and picked them up. And

822
00:51:19.599 --> 00:51:22.880
he came back the lead ropes were still on them.

823
00:51:23.480 --> 00:51:26.480
He brought JJ and Ila back.

824
00:51:26.599 --> 00:51:32.039
Aila is his thoroughbread, and I thought, how how did

825
00:51:32.079 --> 00:51:35.639
that happen? So we rode for the rest of the day,

826
00:51:35.840 --> 00:51:39.519
and I remember feeling like I was never alone. I

827
00:51:39.559 --> 00:51:42.719
was always in back of my husband. I don't know

828
00:51:42.760 --> 00:51:48.360
why he always went first, probably because there was a

829
00:51:48.360 --> 00:51:51.000
lot of like down trees and so it was kind

830
00:51:51.000 --> 00:51:54.199
of hard. In fact, it was annoying. It was hard

831
00:51:54.199 --> 00:51:57.119
to ride because we would try to take like trails

832
00:51:57.159 --> 00:52:01.519
and then they would end because the forest was or

833
00:52:01.559 --> 00:52:04.440
we had to get back on the main logging road.

834
00:52:05.119 --> 00:52:07.920
And in East Texas that read a dirt. Let me

835
00:52:07.960 --> 00:52:10.519
tell you what, I love that red dirt. I love

836
00:52:10.719 --> 00:52:13.119
East Texas. It will always be a part of me.

837
00:52:14.119 --> 00:52:17.440
But on this night. The next day I didn't even

838
00:52:17.480 --> 00:52:21.559
bring it up. I knew better and we went home.

839
00:52:21.880 --> 00:52:23.400
But I will never forget that night.

840
00:52:23.840 --> 00:52:27.079
That's just one of many different encounters that I've had

841
00:52:27.719 --> 00:52:31.400
just there in East Texas. So the year two thousand

842
00:52:31.440 --> 00:52:34.039
and three came and my husband had put in a

843
00:52:34.079 --> 00:52:37.400
request and his unit that he was in he did

844
00:52:37.519 --> 00:52:42.679
retention and recruiting. My husband had taken a break from

845
00:52:43.039 --> 00:52:46.719
after Clinton was in office in ninety after Desert Storm,

846
00:52:47.159 --> 00:52:49.480
he took off like six years, so he got back

847
00:52:49.519 --> 00:52:53.000
in in ninety eight, and then that was when.

848
00:52:53.960 --> 00:52:57.199
He was a recruiter I think for like a year

849
00:52:57.280 --> 00:53:00.519
or two, and then he we wanted to move him Antana.

850
00:53:01.840 --> 00:53:03.719
We took a trip to Montana and we hauled our

851
00:53:03.800 --> 00:53:08.440
horses I think like in two thousand and two, and

852
00:53:08.679 --> 00:53:12.280
we went to Augusta, Montana. There's this ranch out there

853
00:53:12.320 --> 00:53:18.800
called Sun Canyon Lodge, and my husband helped some of

854
00:53:18.840 --> 00:53:24.800
the the wranglers take some of the supplies out to

855
00:53:25.280 --> 00:53:29.079
the back country because he's a good horseman, and so

856
00:53:29.280 --> 00:53:31.880
they they knew is there. I think we had gone

857
00:53:32.000 --> 00:53:34.480
like the second time. So on this trip he went

858
00:53:34.599 --> 00:53:37.000
riding and he took he helped take some of the supplies.

859
00:53:37.800 --> 00:53:43.119
I stayed back with with my son.

860
00:53:43.320 --> 00:53:45.440
I'm trying to think if my other, my younger son

861
00:53:45.559 --> 00:53:48.639
was born. I don't think he was born. In fact,

862
00:53:48.679 --> 00:53:49.719
I might have been pregnant.

863
00:53:50.000 --> 00:53:56.039
So we you know, we loved Montana. So he put

864
00:53:56.039 --> 00:54:00.599
in a request and a request to move to Montana

865
00:54:00.760 --> 00:54:03.679
or however it works. There was nothing available in Montana

866
00:54:04.280 --> 00:54:06.599
and he got his orders to go to North Idaho.

867
00:54:06.760 --> 00:54:10.840
So he was Active Guard Reserve. So anyone who knows

868
00:54:10.840 --> 00:54:13.519
what AGR is, he was over the motor pool.

869
00:54:13.800 --> 00:54:16.519
Of this unit in North Idaho. It's not there anymore.

870
00:54:16.519 --> 00:54:22.800
They we named it. So I did not know anything

871
00:54:22.800 --> 00:54:24.639
about North Idaho.

872
00:54:24.760 --> 00:54:26.920
And I had been researching life I don't know five

873
00:54:27.000 --> 00:54:28.960
or six years, and I had seen it all. I

874
00:54:29.000 --> 00:54:31.920
heard it all. I had some encounters. My mentality again

875
00:54:32.039 --> 00:54:33.280
is that they are flesh and blood.

876
00:54:34.039 --> 00:54:39.519
I never had any kind of caroanormal event happen. One

877
00:54:39.559 --> 00:54:42.960
other thing I would notice is that when some of

878
00:54:43.039 --> 00:54:46.719
us females were together, we used to hear like.

879
00:54:46.719 --> 00:54:51.679
A cooing noise like that coming from the woods.

880
00:54:51.840 --> 00:54:54.880
And this was mainly when there was females around, and

881
00:54:54.920 --> 00:54:58.079
I always picked up that that was a female doing it.

882
00:54:58.199 --> 00:55:01.440
Now, did I see anything? I know? A lot of

883
00:55:01.440 --> 00:55:02.480
people say, well.

884
00:55:02.320 --> 00:55:03.920
Did you have a visual how do you know it

885
00:55:04.079 --> 00:55:06.880
was a female? Well, because I sensed it, Well, that

886
00:55:06.920 --> 00:55:10.280
doesn't prove anything. Well, that doesn't matter, because I don't

887
00:55:10.280 --> 00:55:12.599
care what you believe. I'm not here to prove anything,

888
00:55:13.000 --> 00:55:15.639
even though at that time I felt like anytime I

889
00:55:15.719 --> 00:55:18.719
described something that I had to provide proof because that's

890
00:55:18.760 --> 00:55:20.519
the mentality of a lot of a lot of a

891
00:55:20.559 --> 00:55:23.760
lot of you know, the whole Sasquatch fields.

892
00:55:23.920 --> 00:55:26.320
Today, a lot of people feel like whatever they bring

893
00:55:26.400 --> 00:55:28.480
to the table, they have to like back it up,

894
00:55:28.519 --> 00:55:36.280
which in some instances you do. But it was just very,

895
00:55:36.400 --> 00:55:39.639
very strange to have all these encounters and what my

896
00:55:39.719 --> 00:55:44.960
mentality was. And so when we moved to North Idaho,

897
00:55:45.000 --> 00:55:50.079
and after you know, we bought this house, my younger

898
00:55:50.119 --> 00:55:53.400
son was one year old and he was very sick.

899
00:55:53.480 --> 00:55:57.679
He was hospitalized, and I went part time. The Children's

900
00:55:57.760 --> 00:56:00.639
medical center was down the road from my office, and

901
00:56:00.679 --> 00:56:03.800
my husband was he had just got to North Idaho

902
00:56:04.239 --> 00:56:07.559
and he called me and he said, I'm in Wallace, Idaho.

903
00:56:07.639 --> 00:56:09.719
You're not going to believe this. It is snowing. I'm

904
00:56:09.760 --> 00:56:13.039
on the pass. I'm like, oh yeah, But he like

905
00:56:13.199 --> 00:56:15.360
loves all that. He loves the snow, he loves the cloth,

906
00:56:15.519 --> 00:56:19.360
not me. So I was really stressed out because I

907
00:56:19.400 --> 00:56:21.960
had to pack, I had to get the horses ready,

908
00:56:22.039 --> 00:56:25.320
get the coggins ready, had to have them shoot. And

909
00:56:26.159 --> 00:56:30.719
I was I had a lot of mixed feelings because I,

910
00:56:30.760 --> 00:56:32.880
you know, didn't really want to be a military wife,

911
00:56:32.960 --> 00:56:35.760
but my husband had spent years in and he wanted

912
00:56:35.800 --> 00:56:38.480
to retire, so I wanted to support him. My own dad,

913
00:56:38.480 --> 00:56:41.719
who is Navy, said this is a good thing. You

914
00:56:41.719 --> 00:56:45.039
you should go like you'll this will be if he retires.

915
00:56:45.440 --> 00:56:48.039
I thought that income will be good to have down

916
00:56:48.039 --> 00:56:52.800
the road. So I was like okay. So he got

917
00:56:52.800 --> 00:56:54.880
his orders, not too much out a but to North Idaho.

918
00:56:54.960 --> 00:56:57.360
Then we went through the whole thing of him find

919
00:56:57.559 --> 00:57:01.880
him finding a house, which he did, and he called

920
00:57:01.960 --> 00:57:06.840
me in two thousand and four in March and he said,

921
00:57:07.159 --> 00:57:08.800
we got it that you're not going to believe this.

922
00:57:09.920 --> 00:57:12.840
So I'm I had.

923
00:57:12.800 --> 00:57:17.039
Gone part time at my job now, and I said,

924
00:57:17.079 --> 00:57:21.599
what he said, The mountain that is in front of

925
00:57:21.639 --> 00:57:27.400
our home is hoodoo mountain ho of doo. I'm like, really,

926
00:57:27.800 --> 00:57:32.079
that's that's like a little unsettling because we have always

927
00:57:32.639 --> 00:57:35.079
like when we would take trips, we would see the

928
00:57:35.199 --> 00:57:36.480
names of place as well.

929
00:57:36.840 --> 00:57:40.719
It was named that for a reason, Devil's reservoir. Why

930
00:57:40.800 --> 00:57:42.360
is it named devil reservoir?

931
00:57:43.000 --> 00:57:45.920
There is a place not too far down the road

932
00:57:46.039 --> 00:57:49.119
leaving Utah here where I'm at, and there's a place

933
00:57:49.159 --> 00:57:53.400
it's Devil's something reservoir. So every time I pass that,

934
00:57:53.679 --> 00:57:55.119
you know, I think, well, why is.

935
00:57:55.119 --> 00:57:59.320
That called that? So I have always believed most.

936
00:57:59.119 --> 00:58:02.760
Of the time, places like a mountain or a clique

937
00:58:02.920 --> 00:58:06.400
or something named like that, not a street necessarily, but

938
00:58:07.239 --> 00:58:10.960
a place like a mountain, Like I said, So, I said,

939
00:58:11.039 --> 00:58:11.639
you're kidding me.

940
00:58:11.679 --> 00:58:15.639
The place is called Whodo And then he said yes.

941
00:58:15.840 --> 00:58:22.360
So he got the paperwork and everything to our place,

942
00:58:22.400 --> 00:58:25.119
the keys and everything, and the guy who had built

943
00:58:25.199 --> 00:58:27.880
it was not done cleaning up some of the.

944
00:58:29.400 --> 00:58:32.639
Stuff outside, and my husband said, that's totally fine, we'll

945
00:58:32.639 --> 00:58:37.400
get it. So the real estate agent two days later

946
00:58:37.480 --> 00:58:39.960
called my husband and said, hey, somebody wants to.

947
00:58:39.880 --> 00:58:41.679
Make an offer on your house. And it was like

948
00:58:41.719 --> 00:58:46.159
sixty thousand more than what we bought it, and the

949
00:58:46.239 --> 00:58:50.000
other real estate agent said, I didn't see this house

950
00:58:50.039 --> 00:58:55.679
on the MLS, and I'm like, well, that's weird because

951
00:58:55.679 --> 00:58:58.000
when I was in my office and I did a

952
00:58:58.000 --> 00:58:59.800
search for it, I couldn't find it either.

953
00:59:00.480 --> 00:59:03.239
So I had my husband send me pictures because I

954
00:59:03.239 --> 00:59:04.679
couldn't find it on the MLS.

955
00:59:04.840 --> 00:59:07.639
But it was there. So I just find that really

956
00:59:07.760 --> 00:59:14.559
weird that this house never sold until we bought it.

957
00:59:15.440 --> 00:59:19.000
And I can honestly tell you that was meant to be.

958
00:59:19.360 --> 00:59:23.480
I was meant to go there, to have lived this

959
00:59:23.920 --> 00:59:27.400
last twenty years on this property and everything that has

960
00:59:27.440 --> 00:59:30.519
happened to us. I will never forget that. There was

961
00:59:30.920 --> 00:59:34.239
no explanation why these other real estate people could not

962
00:59:34.320 --> 00:59:37.800
see this house on the MLS. But when it was closed,

963
00:59:37.960 --> 00:59:40.719
guess what it popped up When the deal was done.

964
00:59:40.800 --> 00:59:42.880
It was showing up on the MLS, like shut the

965
00:59:42.920 --> 00:59:45.840
front door for real. That still give me, That still

966
00:59:45.880 --> 00:59:50.440
gives me goosebumps. So this person made an offer, I mean,

967
00:59:50.559 --> 00:59:55.199
my husband called me. I'm like, well you can't. We

968
00:59:56.079 --> 00:59:58.039
need a place to live because there was no play.

969
00:59:58.079 --> 01:00:01.639
Everything was getting so expensive. We got our house for

970
01:00:01.679 --> 01:00:05.000
six acres and a beautiful brand new home, no shop

971
01:00:05.039 --> 01:00:08.719
for under one hundred and fifty. And I'm telling you what,

972
01:00:09.519 --> 01:00:15.360
this was some weird stuff. I got everything ready. My

973
01:00:15.440 --> 01:00:16.480
husband came down.

974
01:00:16.440 --> 01:00:23.239
In May or June, loaded up the three horses, which

975
01:00:23.280 --> 01:00:26.159
was my quarter horse, stayj A, the horse that was

976
01:00:26.320 --> 01:00:32.719
very tame, and then my husband's my husband's thorough Brud.

977
01:00:32.800 --> 01:00:35.480
She was over sixteen hands, maybe seventeen.

978
01:00:35.679 --> 01:00:38.280
She was a big horse. She was a islight. And

979
01:00:38.320 --> 01:00:40.760
then we had a Pallomina quarter horse.

980
01:00:41.360 --> 01:00:44.119
Big for society. Will be right back. After these messages.

981
01:01:00.199 --> 01:01:01.159
We named her Philly.

982
01:01:01.440 --> 01:01:03.719
We never really named her anything, so Philly just stuck

983
01:01:03.719 --> 01:01:06.679
because when we got her, she was a Philly, so

984
01:01:06.760 --> 01:01:07.960
that name kind of just stuck.

985
01:01:08.599 --> 01:01:11.159
So it took us four days to go up there.

986
01:01:11.280 --> 01:01:14.280
And my younger son, like I said, he was eighteen

987
01:01:14.280 --> 01:01:17.079
months at this time, and he had been really sick from.

988
01:01:16.960 --> 01:01:22.079
January until like April with this weird rope. I think

989
01:01:22.079 --> 01:01:25.639
they called it the rotavirus. I don't remember, but we

990
01:01:25.719 --> 01:01:26.960
had three dogs with us.

991
01:01:27.159 --> 01:01:32.639
When two or three dogs and I had amigo that

992
01:01:33.079 --> 01:01:35.760
a friend of my husband's drove up to North Idaho

993
01:01:35.800 --> 01:01:38.519
and then my husband of course hauled our horses up

994
01:01:38.559 --> 01:01:38.840
that way.

995
01:01:38.880 --> 01:01:42.280
And the military had come and packed up everything. And

996
01:01:42.440 --> 01:01:46.239
I will never forget those four days traveling how patriotic

997
01:01:46.280 --> 01:01:50.719
people were at that time. And you know, we stopped

998
01:01:51.000 --> 01:01:53.199
like in Colorado, we stopped in I think we stopped

999
01:01:53.280 --> 01:01:57.360
in Kansas a first night, then we stopped in maybe Colorado.

1000
01:01:57.440 --> 01:02:01.800
Then we stopped in maybe Wyoming at one time, and

1001
01:02:01.840 --> 01:02:06.039
then Montana and people were just really really nice.

1002
01:02:06.079 --> 01:02:08.559
We would board our horses and then stay at a

1003
01:02:08.639 --> 01:02:12.360
local hotel and people were just really really nice and patriotic.

1004
01:02:13.599 --> 01:02:16.480
When we got over the Montana passes, I just could

1005
01:02:16.519 --> 01:02:17.800
not believe how beautiful it was.

1006
01:02:18.320 --> 01:02:22.559
I had gone to a guessta Montana, but going over

1007
01:02:23.039 --> 01:02:29.480
by ninety on these passes, I just got my whole

1008
01:02:29.480 --> 01:02:33.960
body just got like, wow, this is so beautiful. When

1009
01:02:34.039 --> 01:02:37.599
we got into Cordelaine, I will never forget Cordelaine Lake.

1010
01:02:37.679 --> 01:02:40.239
It is so beautiful. And I asked my husband how

1011
01:02:40.320 --> 01:02:43.639
much further He said about north about another forty five minutes.

1012
01:02:44.239 --> 01:02:48.159
Oh though, oh my godsh okay. So we got to

1013
01:02:48.320 --> 01:02:51.280
our road and I remember looking up the mountain and

1014
01:02:51.519 --> 01:02:53.800
he said that's who do I'm like, that's really creepy.

1015
01:02:54.360 --> 01:02:58.599
He's like, yeah, I don't know, like, maybe we can

1016
01:02:58.599 --> 01:03:01.880
see why it's called that. So my husband had lived

1017
01:03:02.480 --> 01:03:04.880
there for a couple of months baby two months or

1018
01:03:04.920 --> 01:03:06.960
a month and a half in the house, trying to

1019
01:03:06.960 --> 01:03:09.480
get ready before you know, he.

1020
01:03:09.480 --> 01:03:11.800
Drove back down to Texas to come and get us.

1021
01:03:12.440 --> 01:03:16.679
So when we went down our road and he said, Okay,

1022
01:03:16.719 --> 01:03:21.000
our property starts here, I could not believe it because

1023
01:03:21.039 --> 01:03:23.400
across everything around us.

1024
01:03:23.440 --> 01:03:26.320
Is wooded, and two of the properties across the street

1025
01:03:26.599 --> 01:03:27.440
were all.

1026
01:03:27.199 --> 01:03:33.880
Empty, and then the property in front across the street

1027
01:03:33.920 --> 01:03:36.960
for me was also empty. We pulled into our driveway

1028
01:03:38.360 --> 01:03:46.599
and the first thing I saw was these and over trees,

1029
01:03:47.920 --> 01:03:54.480
and I, you know, as a researcher, I started thinking

1030
01:03:54.519 --> 01:03:57.320
again like that now I had told everybody that I

1031
01:03:57.360 --> 01:04:02.320
was going to be done researching, and I, you know,

1032
01:04:02.480 --> 01:04:06.440
there I went started. We stopped our truck and we

1033
01:04:06.519 --> 01:04:09.760
got down and we got our horses down, and I

1034
01:04:09.840 --> 01:04:17.159
remember walking around the front yard and I thought, Wow,

1035
01:04:17.239 --> 01:04:19.239
this is going to be incredible.

1036
01:04:20.000 --> 01:04:24.400
But subconsciously I had told myself that we were going

1037
01:04:24.440 --> 01:04:24.840
to be done.

1038
01:04:24.960 --> 01:04:28.480
I was going to be done researching. But already weeks

1039
01:04:28.519 --> 01:04:29.920
after that, I.

1040
01:04:29.920 --> 01:04:33.239
Found myself feeding the horses because my husband would leave

1041
01:04:34.000 --> 01:04:34.880
early in the morning.

1042
01:04:35.320 --> 01:04:39.519
The military came dropped our furniture off, and.

1043
01:04:41.159 --> 01:04:42.760
I would get up really early in the morning to

1044
01:04:42.800 --> 01:04:44.880
feed the horses, and then my husband would leave early

1045
01:04:45.480 --> 01:04:49.480
and I would just spend time walking my woods.

1046
01:04:49.840 --> 01:04:51.480
My horses would follow me.

1047
01:04:52.079 --> 01:04:55.239
We had a fence that we put up really quick,

1048
01:04:56.199 --> 01:04:59.679
and I just noticed a lot.

1049
01:04:59.559 --> 01:05:02.719
Of different things, a ton of different structures. There was

1050
01:05:03.280 --> 01:05:04.039
two tepe's.

1051
01:05:05.039 --> 01:05:10.559
I would put the horses up and in this one

1052
01:05:10.599 --> 01:05:14.719
area where we had built a corral where we would

1053
01:05:16.079 --> 01:05:17.960
like if they would get out, I would We would

1054
01:05:18.000 --> 01:05:20.400
put them in this one area because our fence was

1055
01:05:20.480 --> 01:05:25.199
kind of crappy and it really needed to be fixed

1056
01:05:25.239 --> 01:05:27.559
because my husband and his friend built it really fast,

1057
01:05:28.079 --> 01:05:31.880
so it needed some tightening up, and it needed some

1058
01:05:33.239 --> 01:05:34.960
you know better, It needed to luck.

1059
01:05:34.960 --> 01:05:36.920
We needed hot wire up because my horses got out

1060
01:05:36.920 --> 01:05:41.679
a couple of times. So it's two thousand and four.

1061
01:05:42.800 --> 01:05:47.039
I'm feeding my horses out there one morning and my

1062
01:05:47.199 --> 01:05:49.800
young my older son is I think eight eight or nine,

1063
01:05:50.559 --> 01:05:53.639
so I think it was two thousand and four, two

1064
01:05:53.639 --> 01:05:58.320
thousand and four, two thousand and five, and I found

1065
01:05:58.360 --> 01:06:04.760
footprints close to where I feed in water the horses,

1066
01:06:05.840 --> 01:06:10.800
and my heart stopped and I looked down, and I

1067
01:06:10.840 --> 01:06:13.280
remember there was only like one and a half prints

1068
01:06:13.320 --> 01:06:15.880
because a ton all.

1069
01:06:15.719 --> 01:06:18.320
My places wooded, so there's a ton of pine needles

1070
01:06:18.320 --> 01:06:21.880
that fall everywhere. So you know, the forest floor is

1071
01:06:22.000 --> 01:06:26.360
just filled with years and years of just pine needles

1072
01:06:26.360 --> 01:06:29.639
that have accumulated and pine comes and so. And this

1073
01:06:29.840 --> 01:06:32.320
also was outside of the fence. The horses were on

1074
01:06:32.360 --> 01:06:34.440
the other side of the fence. I'm walking to the

1075
01:06:34.519 --> 01:06:38.079
fence to feed them and I see these trucks. I'm like,

1076
01:06:38.159 --> 01:06:41.719
what the heck. And I called my son out, my

1077
01:06:42.320 --> 01:06:45.960
older son, John, and he came out and I showed him.

1078
01:06:46.239 --> 01:06:50.239
He's like, wow, tracks. So I got this bucket and

1079
01:06:50.360 --> 01:06:52.880
I covered the truck. I don't know why I did that.

1080
01:06:53.480 --> 01:06:57.320
And then we went inside. And then I think a

1081
01:06:57.360 --> 01:06:59.960
couple of days later, I removed the bucket and it rained.

1082
01:07:00.400 --> 01:07:03.039
I didn't cast it. I didn't want to cast it.

1083
01:07:03.079 --> 01:07:05.960
I had no desire. I never have really have really

1084
01:07:05.960 --> 01:07:09.840
gotten into that into casting. I've done a couple, but

1085
01:07:10.000 --> 01:07:13.400
I never really like, I guess I really never perfected it,

1086
01:07:13.760 --> 01:07:19.039
and it just wasn't my thing. And I just I

1087
01:07:19.119 --> 01:07:22.000
just think that's kind of weird that I never really

1088
01:07:22.239 --> 01:07:23.360
wanted to learn that.

1089
01:07:23.480 --> 01:07:27.760
More so, after that, there was a series of.

1090
01:07:27.679 --> 01:07:31.159
Events that happened. I would found I would find things

1091
01:07:31.199 --> 01:07:34.039
on the port. Yeah, my husband would sit out on

1092
01:07:34.159 --> 01:07:37.800
our front. I have a front running port. You could

1093
01:07:37.840 --> 01:07:42.199
see through our woods. Across the street there's Hohod Mountain. Now,

1094
01:07:42.199 --> 01:07:45.480
when I say my street, my street is a logging road.

1095
01:07:45.840 --> 01:07:50.079
It's not like a county road. There's nothing out there.

1096
01:07:50.119 --> 01:07:52.880
At that time, I had few neighbors. I mean there

1097
01:07:52.960 --> 01:07:56.119
was people who left five acres over that. The property

1098
01:07:56.119 --> 01:07:59.559
across the street it was ten acres. It was empty.

1099
01:08:00.159 --> 01:08:01.800
The property left to that was empty.

1100
01:08:02.280 --> 01:08:06.360
There was a lot of properties around me that were empty.

1101
01:08:06.480 --> 01:08:10.079
So things started happening over time.

1102
01:08:10.960 --> 01:08:13.920
Then when I heard a roar off the mountain, and

1103
01:08:13.960 --> 01:08:15.599
then that became a normal thing.

1104
01:08:16.439 --> 01:08:21.479
And then my children would have encounters, while my older

1105
01:08:21.560 --> 01:08:26.800
son had a encounter and my younger son had some encounters.

1106
01:08:27.119 --> 01:08:29.840
But we're talking twenty years here, so I mean, definitely,

1107
01:08:29.920 --> 01:08:32.199
I can't get all of that in one show.

1108
01:08:32.399 --> 01:08:35.000
I thought The wild Stuff was going to be in Oklahoma,

1109
01:08:35.039 --> 01:08:39.159
but it feels like things just started to really happen

1110
01:08:39.199 --> 01:08:42.399
when you move to this place in Idaho, which is

1111
01:08:42.840 --> 01:08:44.880
I've talked to people about northern Idaho. It's one of

1112
01:08:44.920 --> 01:08:47.159
the places I really have no desire to go to,

1113
01:08:47.479 --> 01:08:54.199
just because it can get very aggressive there. I don't

1114
01:08:54.239 --> 01:08:57.600
know really, Yeah, Okay, we'll have to ask people.

1115
01:08:57.680 --> 01:09:01.439
Yeah, okay, we'll have to come back to that. Okay,

1116
01:09:02.520 --> 01:09:04.439
we'll have to come back to that, because I find

1117
01:09:04.479 --> 01:09:05.199
that interesting.

1118
01:09:06.199 --> 01:09:09.479
So the years kind of flew by. I kind of

1119
01:09:09.640 --> 01:09:16.199
started researching my older son, I think. Okay, so my

1120
01:09:16.399 --> 01:09:20.600
husband was army. I did family support for like a year,

1121
01:09:20.680 --> 01:09:22.680
and then they got.

1122
01:09:22.439 --> 01:09:25.239
Called to go to Iraq. I mean, all this stuff happened,

1123
01:09:25.279 --> 01:09:29.359
so I have to timeline things, and I can't tell

1124
01:09:29.359 --> 01:09:33.039
you every single story, so I will try to stay

1125
01:09:33.239 --> 01:09:38.399
on course of what happened. Anyhow, my journey started changing.

1126
01:09:38.479 --> 01:09:42.159
So one thing that some of my colleagues did in

1127
01:09:42.279 --> 01:09:47.239
East Texas, they went to what we called I think

1128
01:09:47.239 --> 01:09:51.319
it was dead End Road, which is at Boykins Springs,

1129
01:09:51.359 --> 01:09:53.479
and it used to be secret. It's not anymore, but

1130
01:09:53.600 --> 01:09:57.880
I mean whatever. So I was not there, but one

1131
01:09:57.880 --> 01:10:03.039
of my friends was there with another female and some

1132
01:10:03.159 --> 01:10:05.600
other people. I don't know. I just know these two

1133
01:10:05.600 --> 01:10:08.159
people that were there, and they parked at this one area,

1134
01:10:08.279 --> 01:10:11.439
and you know, at that time, you would have a

1135
01:10:11.520 --> 01:10:13.960
tape recorder and then a microphone attached to it, like

1136
01:10:14.000 --> 01:10:16.600
back in you know, back in the day, that was

1137
01:10:16.680 --> 01:10:17.920
how we recorded.

1138
01:10:18.359 --> 01:10:21.239
So they were at this they were parked at this

1139
01:10:21.600 --> 01:10:25.199
dead end road, and I think one of the gals made.

1140
01:10:25.119 --> 01:10:31.880
A distressed call and what happened afterwards would go down

1141
01:10:31.880 --> 01:10:35.319
in history. As a matter of fact, I'm going to

1142
01:10:35.439 --> 01:10:38.479
say her name because I used to research with her

1143
01:10:38.560 --> 01:10:44.039
and she is smart and you've heard of night Callers radio.

1144
01:10:45.840 --> 01:10:47.840
Absolutely, I'm pretty good friends with Laura.

1145
01:10:47.920 --> 01:10:52.520
Okay, okay, her mom, Laurie and me used to research

1146
01:10:52.920 --> 01:10:54.119
together back in the day.

1147
01:10:54.479 --> 01:10:58.439
Wow. So yes, yes, but I don't like to throw

1148
01:10:58.479 --> 01:11:00.600
people's names around because you know, I have no idea

1149
01:11:00.720 --> 01:11:06.279
what people think of me these days. And so anyway,

1150
01:11:06.439 --> 01:11:10.760
so on this one night, Laurie recorded these I'm you

1151
01:11:10.800 --> 01:11:13.560
know what, Lauren even did a show about it, and

1152
01:11:13.960 --> 01:11:16.239
I will try to go back and if I know

1153
01:11:16.399 --> 01:11:19.680
the show she talks about that night Laurie sat there.

1154
01:11:19.920 --> 01:11:22.760
So basically one of the girls, the other girl, Crystal,

1155
01:11:22.880 --> 01:11:25.479
made a call. I don't know if it was just

1156
01:11:25.560 --> 01:11:28.159
a distressed call, but Lauren can tell you the story

1157
01:11:28.199 --> 01:11:32.640
really well. And so what happened was that you could

1158
01:11:32.680 --> 01:11:36.800
hear them from far away. They were coming, and they

1159
01:11:36.840 --> 01:11:41.119
came in really quick and really fast, and I mean

1160
01:11:41.319 --> 01:11:43.960
you could hear and it was like it was like

1161
01:11:44.000 --> 01:11:46.840
I said, I'm going to stay choir, which is a

1162
01:11:46.880 --> 01:11:50.079
group of something coming in, and you can hear them

1163
01:11:50.119 --> 01:11:54.560
going really and then you could hear one like the

1164
01:11:54.720 --> 01:11:58.880
alpha male or female. It was very distinct. And I

1165
01:11:59.000 --> 01:12:00.159
was not there that night.

1166
01:12:00.159 --> 01:12:04.840
But that happened, and I don't remember the whole story.

1167
01:12:04.920 --> 01:12:08.319
But so now I'm at in Idaho.

1168
01:12:08.520 --> 01:12:11.760
It's October of two thousand and four. My neighbor, who

1169
01:12:11.840 --> 01:12:15.319
had an interest in this topic, went up with me

1170
01:12:15.840 --> 01:12:19.319
and I said, hey, I'm going to do something. I

1171
01:12:19.359 --> 01:12:20.600
went up Hoodio Mountain.

1172
01:12:21.319 --> 01:12:22.920
I don't know how far I went up, and I

1173
01:12:23.119 --> 01:12:27.600
backed my part in so that I could leave pretty quick.

1174
01:12:28.960 --> 01:12:31.159
And you know, that's one of the things I learned

1175
01:12:31.199 --> 01:12:34.119
from one of these guys, is you know you always

1176
01:12:34.199 --> 01:12:35.800
back up, like if you have to leave, you'll be

1177
01:12:35.840 --> 01:12:38.760
ready to leave instead of having to like back up

1178
01:12:38.239 --> 01:12:42.079
like a dummy and like be ready. So I parked,

1179
01:12:42.439 --> 01:12:46.159
we got out, I made what I think was an

1180
01:12:46.199 --> 01:12:51.079
attempt at a distressed call, and we were there for

1181
01:12:51.239 --> 01:12:55.079
like maybe ten minutes. But my friend was really restless

1182
01:12:55.119 --> 01:12:59.039
and she was ready to hear something, and she said.

1183
01:12:59.520 --> 01:13:02.279
Well, are we going to hear anything? I said, Susan,

1184
01:13:02.439 --> 01:13:05.319
I don't know, Like, let's see what happens. She was

1185
01:13:05.399 --> 01:13:08.640
kind of annoying me, so I said, okay, let's go

1186
01:13:08.720 --> 01:13:14.800
over here. We got back in my vehicle and we

1187
01:13:14.880 --> 01:13:16.960
went down the mountain. Now I had a.

1188
01:13:16.800 --> 01:13:20.920
Season one legal, it was not fourible drive, so I

1189
01:13:20.960 --> 01:13:23.640
really needed a fourible drive to go.

1190
01:13:23.600 --> 01:13:25.520
Up to some of these other places in the mountain.

1191
01:13:25.560 --> 01:13:29.079
But it worked for you know, it wasn't snowing yet

1192
01:13:29.119 --> 01:13:31.720
or anything. So I came back down the mountain.

1193
01:13:31.800 --> 01:13:33.479
I went to the other side of the mountain and

1194
01:13:33.479 --> 01:13:36.079
I parked at the spun area that I still frequent today,

1195
01:13:36.600 --> 01:13:41.720
and I made another call. Well this time within a

1196
01:13:41.720 --> 01:13:45.279
couple of minutes, you could hear them all coming from

1197
01:13:45.319 --> 01:13:48.000
where we were at, and they you could hear them

1198
01:13:48.000 --> 01:13:48.479
all coming.

1199
01:13:48.520 --> 01:13:52.479
And then, just like what happened to Lorri in East Texas,

1200
01:13:52.960 --> 01:13:57.399
Now they didn't go park and then move somewhere else

1201
01:13:57.439 --> 01:13:58.079
and park again.

1202
01:13:58.439 --> 01:14:01.479
I don't think so. But the sound of what happened

1203
01:14:01.520 --> 01:14:05.119
is just like what happened over there, and you could

1204
01:14:05.159 --> 01:14:10.439
hear them coming. Then you could hear like the one.

1205
01:14:10.079 --> 01:14:13.319
I freaked myself out because my friend was like, oh right,

1206
01:14:13.359 --> 01:14:16.840
So she freaked me out. And I think I was

1207
01:14:16.880 --> 01:14:18.840
trying to record, but I didn't get it.

1208
01:14:19.239 --> 01:14:21.239
And of course I wasn't really good at that, and

1209
01:14:21.279 --> 01:14:25.279
I didn't have a lot of equipment. So I know

1210
01:14:25.439 --> 01:14:28.159
that I was standing outside and I closed my door

1211
01:14:28.680 --> 01:14:31.079
and I took off like that was it.

1212
01:14:31.199 --> 01:14:35.079
I started in my car, I took off down the road, and.

1213
01:14:36.479 --> 01:14:38.239
I don't know if I went home or if I

1214
01:14:38.279 --> 01:14:41.880
took a different route and then looped back home. And

1215
01:14:41.960 --> 01:14:44.840
I dropped her off, and she just looked at me.

1216
01:14:44.960 --> 01:14:49.880
Her eyes were bigger than you know, owls eyes, and

1217
01:14:50.560 --> 01:14:53.640
she just couldn't She goes, I can't believe we experienced

1218
01:14:53.720 --> 01:14:54.920
that because.

1219
01:14:54.680 --> 01:14:57.119
She had heard them, how on numerous nights.

1220
01:14:57.880 --> 01:15:01.239
So the next day, when I was up, there was

1221
01:15:02.159 --> 01:15:04.439
some something on my front porch. I think it was

1222
01:15:04.439 --> 01:15:07.840
a rock or something. I can't remember that. I was like, hmm,

1223
01:15:08.039 --> 01:15:12.119
this is weird. Plus my jog was sniffing it. So

1224
01:15:12.439 --> 01:15:15.680
after that point it was on like Donkey Kong.

1225
01:15:15.840 --> 01:15:20.399
I was actively researching, but I wasn't going natural places purposely.

1226
01:15:21.319 --> 01:15:40.399
Big for society will be right back. After these messages, a.

1227
01:15:40.479 --> 01:15:43.600
Word had got out and there was a report there

1228
01:15:43.600 --> 01:15:45.920
in althal Idaho, which is just down the road for me,

1229
01:15:46.600 --> 01:15:49.439
this officer had a encounter. He was called out on

1230
01:15:49.520 --> 01:15:52.479
a report of something that happened there. I ended up

1231
01:15:52.520 --> 01:15:53.920
talking to him about that event.

1232
01:15:54.520 --> 01:15:58.159
And you know, I've worked with people. These other people

1233
01:15:58.239 --> 01:16:00.399
called me from Priest Lake and they said, hey, we

1234
01:16:00.439 --> 01:16:03.960
bought this cabin. You know, something is coming up to

1235
01:16:04.000 --> 01:16:06.159
our house and hitting it. Because the word got out,

1236
01:16:06.239 --> 01:16:07.119
like what was going on?

1237
01:16:07.479 --> 01:16:09.840
These people had bought a cabin they were living in

1238
01:16:09.880 --> 01:16:13.319
it by a Priest Lake and they were having these

1239
01:16:13.359 --> 01:16:17.279
weird encounters where something was slapping the house, something was

1240
01:16:17.319 --> 01:16:18.239
getting the garbage.

1241
01:16:18.880 --> 01:16:23.000
And so they got my phone number somehow, and they

1242
01:16:23.039 --> 01:16:24.199
said what do we do?

1243
01:16:25.000 --> 01:16:29.399
And I said, well, I mean, I'm no like expert

1244
01:16:29.479 --> 01:16:33.760
or anything like that, but this is my It's been

1245
01:16:33.800 --> 01:16:37.000
my experience from some of these some other people I've

1246
01:16:37.119 --> 01:16:39.520
talked with, and I had even reached out to some

1247
01:16:39.560 --> 01:16:43.199
other people and it was their suggestion to tell them

1248
01:16:43.319 --> 01:16:47.199
to one. I had found out that the prior people

1249
01:16:47.239 --> 01:16:51.520
that had lived there was habituating the Sasquatch out there.

1250
01:16:51.560 --> 01:16:54.720
Now these people looked yes, and then they moved and

1251
01:16:55.239 --> 01:17:01.319
they moved, bought it no, and so like so they

1252
01:17:01.359 --> 01:17:02.119
got my number.

1253
01:17:02.479 --> 01:17:05.279
I think there was more involved because someone I don't

1254
01:17:05.279 --> 01:17:07.920
know if they found footprints and so somehow.

1255
01:17:07.680 --> 01:17:10.159
They got my phone number and I was like, okay, well,

1256
01:17:10.199 --> 01:17:12.560
you know, now I had young children.

1257
01:17:12.239 --> 01:17:13.600
At the time, so I couldn't just hop in my

1258
01:17:13.600 --> 01:17:16.880
car and go because that wasn't my main priority. A

1259
01:17:16.880 --> 01:17:18.920
lot of stuff is going on with the military, and look,

1260
01:17:18.960 --> 01:17:20.960
I really could have cared less, I'll be honest with you.

1261
01:17:21.800 --> 01:17:24.199
And it was like forty five minutes maybe half an

1262
01:17:24.239 --> 01:17:27.399
hour away pre select from where I live. So I

1263
01:17:27.439 --> 01:17:29.439
told them over the phone, listen, this is you know,

1264
01:17:29.840 --> 01:17:32.279
don't feed them and they said, well not and that

1265
01:17:32.359 --> 01:17:34.239
was when I found out that well, the prior people

1266
01:17:34.279 --> 01:17:35.720
had been doing something.

1267
01:17:36.199 --> 01:17:38.439
So I'm like, okay, so this is what you do.

1268
01:17:38.720 --> 01:17:43.399
You put out some lights around the place, like put

1269
01:17:43.439 --> 01:17:46.399
one like I hate to tell you this, but try

1270
01:17:46.439 --> 01:17:49.079
to put out like ten lights because they had their

1271
01:17:49.079 --> 01:17:51.920
house is pretty big, and I was trying to see

1272
01:17:51.960 --> 01:17:54.119
on math like what was happening.

1273
01:17:54.159 --> 01:17:56.600
And at that time the smartphones two thousand and three

1274
01:17:56.720 --> 01:17:59.000
were not exactly that great, like how they are today,

1275
01:17:59.039 --> 01:18:01.600
like here a picture. You know, people are still texting

1276
01:18:01.600 --> 01:18:06.039
all those old pones. So they never called me back.

1277
01:18:06.399 --> 01:18:10.840
I told them, don't be feeding them. And then I think,

1278
01:18:12.600 --> 01:18:13.039
I don't.

1279
01:18:12.920 --> 01:18:16.199
Know if I said, well, maybe you can go out

1280
01:18:16.199 --> 01:18:19.760
there and take like if you cook something, take something

1281
01:18:20.119 --> 01:18:25.439
further out like pass the light and say, you know,

1282
01:18:26.439 --> 01:18:29.399
this is our like you know, like we are not

1283
01:18:29.479 --> 01:18:32.159
the old people that lived here. You know, please jop

1284
01:18:32.920 --> 01:18:35.199
you know, staring as please stop, like just talk to

1285
01:18:35.239 --> 01:18:38.079
the woods, talk to them. I don't know if I

1286
01:18:38.079 --> 01:18:39.680
told that to them or if I was going to

1287
01:18:40.640 --> 01:18:43.600
and I didn't. I don't remember, but like people would

1288
01:18:43.600 --> 01:18:46.359
call me with stuff like that, and meanwhile I'm at

1289
01:18:46.359 --> 01:18:49.840
my own home having things happen. So the year is

1290
01:18:49.880 --> 01:18:53.640
two thousand and five, so those people never call me back.

1291
01:18:53.960 --> 01:18:58.039
But I've always wondered about those people. So it's two

1292
01:18:58.079 --> 01:18:59.319
thousand and five.

1293
01:19:00.439 --> 01:19:02.359
I've been there like a year, and all these things

1294
01:19:02.359 --> 01:19:05.560
have happened. That thing on the mountain, I'll never forget

1295
01:19:05.600 --> 01:19:07.359
that they would bring me.

1296
01:19:09.800 --> 01:19:13.600
They would bring me gifts on my front porch or

1297
01:19:14.199 --> 01:19:17.199
on my weight where to where I would feed the horses.

1298
01:19:17.560 --> 01:19:20.960
They would play with our family where they would squeech

1299
01:19:21.039 --> 01:19:23.840
out in the backwoods, where in the neighboring woods they

1300
01:19:23.840 --> 01:19:27.399
would break limbs, they would but I never saw anything.

1301
01:19:27.640 --> 01:19:29.920
I never saw anything at all.

1302
01:19:31.680 --> 01:19:33.800
I think one day I was sitting on the couch

1303
01:19:33.840 --> 01:19:36.680
and my husband was gone for the weekend because it was.

1304
01:19:37.760 --> 01:19:39.880
The where they.

1305
01:19:39.319 --> 01:19:44.319
All gather for the weekend, the monthly guys. Even though

1306
01:19:44.359 --> 01:19:46.680
my husband was active guard reserve, he was there full

1307
01:19:46.680 --> 01:19:49.720
of time. The guys at the unit were not there

1308
01:19:49.880 --> 01:19:50.800
like every single day.

1309
01:19:51.000 --> 01:19:53.840
They would meet up once a month. So he was

1310
01:19:53.880 --> 01:19:55.640
gone that weekend.

1311
01:19:55.399 --> 01:19:59.199
And it was really really really bad timing. My husband's

1312
01:19:59.359 --> 01:20:05.680
horse got collicked and she was rolling on the ground

1313
01:20:06.039 --> 01:20:07.680
and I didn't know what to do because I had

1314
01:20:07.720 --> 01:20:12.600
a two year old and I couldn't like walk the horse.

1315
01:20:12.640 --> 01:20:15.760
So my other neighbor came and we tried to get

1316
01:20:15.800 --> 01:20:18.960
a hold of my husband. So our vet. I love

1317
01:20:19.039 --> 01:20:19.479
my vet.

1318
01:20:20.319 --> 01:20:23.680
This is how I met this guy, a vet in town.

1319
01:20:24.279 --> 01:20:26.479
He came out and I'm thinking, oh my gosh, how

1320
01:20:26.560 --> 01:20:27.520
much is this going to cost?

1321
01:20:27.560 --> 01:20:30.800
Because again I'm not working. You know, we have to like,

1322
01:20:30.960 --> 01:20:32.359
you know, budget every little thing.

1323
01:20:32.479 --> 01:20:34.479
I can't just go splurge money like I used to

1324
01:20:34.479 --> 01:20:38.439
in Dallas. So my neighbor was walking Ailah and walking

1325
01:20:38.479 --> 01:20:44.119
her and walking her, and she got a band I

1326
01:20:44.199 --> 01:20:47.640
mean shot from the vet and he did some other things.

1327
01:20:47.640 --> 01:20:50.359
And then the next day he left me with another

1328
01:20:50.399 --> 01:20:52.800
band I mean shot to give her, and my husband

1329
01:20:52.880 --> 01:20:57.800
came home and she started collecking again, so the vet

1330
01:20:57.840 --> 01:20:58.439
came out again.

1331
01:20:58.600 --> 01:21:01.520
And then on the third day she was blown up and.

1332
01:21:02.079 --> 01:21:06.439
It was it was bad. She would need surgery. It

1333
01:21:06.439 --> 01:21:09.560
would be seven thousand dollars. I couldn't afford that, so

1334
01:21:09.600 --> 01:21:13.920
my husband gave her up to the town over because

1335
01:21:14.039 --> 01:21:17.560
they would give the surgery, but we would have to

1336
01:21:17.560 --> 01:21:20.039
give up ownership of the horse. But I think because

1337
01:21:20.079 --> 01:21:22.800
my husband was a soldier or that they were going

1338
01:21:22.840 --> 01:21:25.800
to try to fix her and then work something out

1339
01:21:25.840 --> 01:21:30.479
with us. But Aila died in at the death office.

1340
01:21:30.840 --> 01:21:33.800
And let me tell you what you want to hear

1341
01:21:33.800 --> 01:21:37.439
a grown man cry. I will never forget that because

1342
01:21:37.520 --> 01:21:44.359
my horse. These animals, they know, and they were not okay.

1343
01:21:44.399 --> 01:21:47.920
For a couple of days, they hung their heads. There

1344
01:21:48.000 --> 01:21:52.000
was something in the air, and I heard some cooing

1345
01:21:52.119 --> 01:21:56.439
from the back of the woods, and I just thought,

1346
01:21:56.640 --> 01:22:01.079
oh my gosh, now again all of this isn't is

1347
01:22:01.840 --> 01:22:04.119
not unusual the things I'm hearing in the woods.

1348
01:22:05.399 --> 01:22:08.079
So that was a really, really hard time. My husband

1349
01:22:08.079 --> 01:22:09.279
never bought a horse after that.

1350
01:22:09.319 --> 01:22:11.920
He just rode mine and I would ride Philly because

1351
01:22:11.960 --> 01:22:15.520
JJ and I horse was a big horse, like sixteen hands.

1352
01:22:15.880 --> 01:22:19.720
He got bigger than what I expected. So, you know,

1353
01:22:20.279 --> 01:22:23.560
talking about the Cooeen. My husband's unit got called to Iraq.

1354
01:22:23.920 --> 01:22:27.439
One day we came home. We were at the base,

1355
01:22:27.520 --> 01:22:32.239
which is in Airway Heights outside of Spokene, Washington, Washington,

1356
01:22:32.279 --> 01:22:34.159
because if you look on a map, you'll see the

1357
01:22:34.159 --> 01:22:37.359
top of Idaho spoke in Washington and then ride across

1358
01:22:37.399 --> 01:22:40.680
on the Idaho border by spirit like Idaho. That's where

1359
01:22:40.720 --> 01:22:43.359
I live, in the town of Blanchard, at the bottom

1360
01:22:43.399 --> 01:22:51.199
of Hoodoo Mountain. So we came home and my phone rang.

1361
01:22:52.039 --> 01:22:57.159
Now my best friend to this day. I had met

1362
01:22:57.159 --> 01:23:00.000
her around that time. She was the first sergeant's wife,

1363
01:23:00.239 --> 01:23:02.960
and so me and her have remained friends all these years.

1364
01:23:03.880 --> 01:23:06.319
But on this day, my husband didn't go to work.

1365
01:23:06.720 --> 01:23:08.119
I think he took off and we went to the

1366
01:23:08.119 --> 01:23:08.920
base for something.

1367
01:23:09.399 --> 01:23:11.560
So my husband did not work at the base. He

1368
01:23:11.640 --> 01:23:16.319
worked at a unit, but we did go to the base.

1369
01:23:16.399 --> 01:23:17.439
I think we were shopping.

1370
01:23:17.880 --> 01:23:20.560
Anyway, we came home and my phone rang and it

1371
01:23:20.600 --> 01:23:24.760
was my friend and she goes, hey, so how do

1372
01:23:24.800 --> 01:23:29.560
you feel. I'm like, what do you mean? She goes, well,

1373
01:23:30.600 --> 01:23:32.000
you know, she realized I didn't know.

1374
01:23:31.920 --> 01:23:35.000
What she was talking about. She said, it's official, and

1375
01:23:35.039 --> 01:23:38.640
I remember my stomach, that filling in my stomach.

1376
01:23:39.000 --> 01:23:40.520
I knew what she was talking about. They were going

1377
01:23:40.520 --> 01:23:44.680
to Iraq. I said what I said, he didn't go

1378
01:23:44.720 --> 01:23:47.479
to work today. We went to the base. He took off,

1379
01:23:48.239 --> 01:23:52.239
and she goes, okay, well they're going and Scott needs

1380
01:23:52.279 --> 01:23:54.720
to talk to your husband because they are doing the

1381
01:23:54.760 --> 01:23:57.920
phone command, the phone chain thing. No, my husband had

1382
01:23:57.960 --> 01:24:01.640
heard and he came in and I remember I didn't

1383
01:24:01.680 --> 01:24:02.920
slam the cabinet.

1384
01:24:03.600 --> 01:24:06.720
I was trying to keep it together. I closed the cabinet.

1385
01:24:07.520 --> 01:24:09.039
I don't know why I get emotional. I want to

1386
01:24:09.039 --> 01:24:13.479
talk about this story. So stupid, but anyway, probably because

1387
01:24:13.520 --> 01:24:15.600
being a military wife, you just have to understand that

1388
01:24:15.680 --> 01:24:19.640
really never goes away, that filling of dread. They're going

1389
01:24:19.680 --> 01:24:22.479
to Iraq, they are going to war. Here I am

1390
01:24:22.600 --> 01:24:25.039
in this house in North Idaho that I refused to

1391
01:24:25.199 --> 01:24:30.520
attach myself to because I just couldn't. I don't know why.

1392
01:24:30.600 --> 01:24:32.439
In my mind, I was going back to Texas.

1393
01:24:32.680 --> 01:24:36.199
So I gave my husband the phone and I closed

1394
01:24:36.239 --> 01:24:38.800
the door, and you know, to him, it's another day

1395
01:24:38.840 --> 01:24:39.439
at the office.

1396
01:24:39.439 --> 01:24:41.640
He already knew what the phone call was about. And

1397
01:24:41.720 --> 01:24:43.399
I just said, I'm going to go with you the horses.

1398
01:24:43.760 --> 01:24:46.920
It was dark. I had it in the phone. The

1399
01:24:47.000 --> 01:24:52.760
kids were in the other room. They're young. My youngest

1400
01:24:52.880 --> 01:24:57.239
was I think two or three, and my oldest again

1401
01:24:57.399 --> 01:25:02.520
is eight or nine. So I went outside my backyard.

1402
01:25:02.840 --> 01:25:04.279
I have a backyard, but it's.

1403
01:25:04.119 --> 01:25:09.359
All wooded, and our barn was a little off to

1404
01:25:09.680 --> 01:25:12.920
the right, and it was it's very, very dark. The

1405
01:25:13.000 --> 01:25:16.960
light in our backyard really didn't set off a good

1406
01:25:17.800 --> 01:25:23.479
distance of light, and I could barely see. I went

1407
01:25:23.520 --> 01:25:25.920
to go feed the to water, you know, check on

1408
01:25:26.000 --> 01:25:26.560
the horses.

1409
01:25:27.039 --> 01:25:30.039
And I remember I was standing there and I fed

1410
01:25:30.079 --> 01:25:32.359
the horses and I was looking at them, and they

1411
01:25:32.359 --> 01:25:34.680
were fine. You know. I got to a point where

1412
01:25:34.680 --> 01:25:35.439
I would watch.

1413
01:25:35.199 --> 01:25:39.439
My animals and their behavior, and I would see my

1414
01:25:39.560 --> 01:25:42.960
horses made in tail and they were fine. So the

1415
01:25:42.960 --> 01:25:47.239
theory of if something looked like they had been nest

1416
01:25:47.359 --> 01:25:50.880
with their maine entails, which was quite often when I

1417
01:25:50.920 --> 01:25:54.520
had them in Northideoh.

1418
01:25:53.119 --> 01:25:55.720
It didn't. For some reason, I was I came to

1419
01:25:55.760 --> 01:25:57.560
a point where I was fine, Yeah, I just I

1420
01:25:57.600 --> 01:25:58.159
just I don't know.

1421
01:25:58.319 --> 01:26:02.479
I can't, I can't do that. So they were fine.

1422
01:26:02.520 --> 01:26:05.680
They weren't acting weird or traumatized. So I just kind

1423
01:26:05.680 --> 01:26:10.119
of start thinking about it, and I walked behind my

1424
01:26:10.199 --> 01:26:12.880
barn and I just tried to collect myself. And I

1425
01:26:12.920 --> 01:26:17.199
remember I I was crying a little bit, and I

1426
01:26:17.239 --> 01:26:19.800
heard the cooing from the back of the woods and

1427
01:26:19.840 --> 01:26:23.000
I heard whoh, And I remember I hopped up on

1428
01:26:23.079 --> 01:26:26.560
my legs, on my feet, and I ran.

1429
01:26:26.399 --> 01:26:30.359
To the back, like to the back porch, and my

1430
01:26:30.439 --> 01:26:31.680
husband had hung up the phone.

1431
01:26:31.720 --> 01:26:33.680
And then I heard a roar off the mountain, which

1432
01:26:33.720 --> 01:26:35.840
at that time was not a big deal. And then

1433
01:26:35.880 --> 01:26:39.920
I heard the female and I knew it was the female.

1434
01:26:40.119 --> 01:26:43.119
She left. I could hear her leaving, and I.

1435
01:26:43.079 --> 01:26:46.399
Went inside the house and I wanted to talk to

1436
01:26:46.439 --> 01:26:49.880
my husband about what was going on, but the timing

1437
01:26:49.960 --> 01:26:54.600
wasn't right. So the next couple of the next six months,

1438
01:26:54.720 --> 01:26:57.159
the colonel will tell me, oh, he's going to buy

1439
01:26:57.159 --> 01:27:00.000
a wrap. But see, when you're adr, it doesn't necessarily

1440
01:27:00.279 --> 01:27:01.239
mean that you're going.

1441
01:27:01.039 --> 01:27:03.439
Because my husband's job was to get the truths ready

1442
01:27:04.199 --> 01:27:07.800
of the motor pool and then he would possibly be

1443
01:27:07.920 --> 01:27:13.039
called to somewhere else. So at that time he said,

1444
01:27:13.119 --> 01:27:15.640
I might not go. So we put our house up

1445
01:27:15.640 --> 01:27:18.079
for sale, and we said if it sells, it sells,

1446
01:27:18.640 --> 01:27:20.479
and we just I didn't know if he was going

1447
01:27:20.520 --> 01:27:23.319
to Iraq or not. I had no idea. I was

1448
01:27:23.359 --> 01:27:24.079
a hot mess.

1449
01:27:24.640 --> 01:27:28.560
I didn't feel like that could plan anything, like where

1450
01:27:28.560 --> 01:27:31.199
are we going? And then he said, if it doesn't sell,

1451
01:27:31.399 --> 01:27:34.600
then you'll be okay to stay here, and I said, well,

1452
01:27:34.680 --> 01:27:35.520
I think I'm gonna.

1453
01:27:35.319 --> 01:27:38.640
Call my mother, or maybe your mother could come and

1454
01:27:38.640 --> 01:27:39.279
stay with us.

1455
01:27:39.680 --> 01:27:43.840
So in the end he got transferred to West Virginia,

1456
01:27:44.439 --> 01:27:47.800
and our house stayed empty. Our neighbors watched it, and

1457
01:27:47.880 --> 01:27:50.600
we were going to West Virginia for a year, and

1458
01:27:50.640 --> 01:27:55.039
then we came back. And I do have some stories

1459
01:27:55.039 --> 01:27:56.920
for West Virginia because I lived.

1460
01:27:56.680 --> 01:28:00.399
Off the Greenbrier River, and again I loved in the

1461
01:28:00.560 --> 01:28:03.680
woods for a year and I would go out to

1462
01:28:03.760 --> 01:28:06.520
the water there and I would sit and I would

1463
01:28:06.520 --> 01:28:09.319
not let the kids go to the water, because well, one,

1464
01:28:09.479 --> 01:28:12.840
I didn't want them falling in and going with the

1465
01:28:13.880 --> 01:28:17.199
rapids because where we lived there, the Greenbrier River had

1466
01:28:17.600 --> 01:28:21.560
a ton of rapids, so I had we had various

1467
01:28:21.560 --> 01:28:27.199
strict roles. My older son was ten and my younger

1468
01:28:27.239 --> 01:28:31.560
son was three at this time. So that year passed

1469
01:28:31.560 --> 01:28:37.439
pretty quickly, and my husband retired, and then we came

1470
01:28:37.479 --> 01:28:40.920
back to North Idaho basically and then he retired. But

1471
01:28:42.079 --> 01:28:45.720
what happened after that things started to really really ramp

1472
01:28:45.800 --> 01:28:49.560
up because we had been gone a year, and you know,

1473
01:28:49.640 --> 01:28:52.039
life got back to normal. I started researching again.

1474
01:28:52.359 --> 01:28:55.880
When I stayed researching, I mean I spent time up

1475
01:28:55.880 --> 01:28:58.920
on my mountain up at Peace Lake.

1476
01:28:59.600 --> 01:29:02.000
And my husband was not happy.

1477
01:29:02.039 --> 01:29:02.199
Though.

1478
01:29:02.239 --> 01:29:05.600
When I say a year went by really fast, it did,

1479
01:29:05.720 --> 01:29:09.640
but you know, he wanted to be with his guys

1480
01:29:09.720 --> 01:29:13.119
over there in Iraq or Afghanistan. I can't remember where

1481
01:29:13.159 --> 01:29:15.600
they went because he didn't go. I was just happy

1482
01:29:15.640 --> 01:29:18.439
he didn't go. And that was a hard year to

1483
01:29:18.479 --> 01:29:21.960
live with him because he kind of was not all there.

1484
01:29:22.319 --> 01:29:27.880
He didn't want to be there. I knew he wanted

1485
01:29:27.920 --> 01:29:31.800
to be over there overseas. But we did eventually come

1486
01:29:31.800 --> 01:29:36.079
back to Idaho and it was oh seven. He retired

1487
01:29:36.520 --> 01:29:38.319
the economy two thousand and eight.

1488
01:29:38.359 --> 01:29:42.680
Took a tank. As we all know, my older son,

1489
01:29:42.760 --> 01:29:46.439
his birthday is in April. It is still cold in April.

1490
01:29:46.840 --> 01:29:49.560
In the months of April, he wanted to have some

1491
01:29:49.600 --> 01:29:52.399
friends over to camp out. My in laws.

1492
01:29:52.399 --> 01:29:55.079
Were staying with us. So now it's two thousand and

1493
01:29:55.119 --> 01:30:00.359
seven and I was hearing the same things over. We

1494
01:30:00.439 --> 01:30:01.520
still had our horses.

1495
01:30:02.640 --> 01:30:04.319
Big for Society will be right back.

1496
01:30:04.399 --> 01:30:24.279
After these messages, my son had two or three friends

1497
01:30:24.399 --> 01:30:26.640
camped out in the back of our property and they

1498
01:30:26.680 --> 01:30:28.119
had a.

1499
01:30:28.119 --> 01:30:32.600
Fire, and the next day they came in and they

1500
01:30:32.600 --> 01:30:35.199
said they heard something walking around and was it us?

1501
01:30:35.359 --> 01:30:37.920
No, it wasn't us, and they thought we were playing

1502
01:30:37.920 --> 01:30:40.479
a trick on them. So they did hear something heavy

1503
01:30:40.520 --> 01:30:41.800
walking around at that time.

1504
01:30:41.880 --> 01:30:44.600
So that's my older son's experience.

1505
01:30:44.680 --> 01:30:47.159
And then he has friends who are in the area

1506
01:30:47.199 --> 01:30:49.720
where they have kempt out, and I would hear other

1507
01:30:49.760 --> 01:30:53.279
stories down the road that when they were camping out

1508
01:30:53.399 --> 01:30:55.600
they would hear things. And then I have a friend

1509
01:30:55.640 --> 01:30:58.239
who has sixty acres and her son is my son's

1510
01:30:58.319 --> 01:31:00.960
like one of his best friends. So when they were

1511
01:31:00.960 --> 01:31:04.359
growing up over the years, she said that they would

1512
01:31:04.399 --> 01:31:06.359
be camping out and they would come in and say

1513
01:31:06.600 --> 01:31:08.039
we heard something walking around.

1514
01:31:08.800 --> 01:31:10.840
And then she would tell me stories.

1515
01:31:12.239 --> 01:31:16.039
Where now this is just a couple of acres over, well, no,

1516
01:31:16.159 --> 01:31:20.319
it's maybe a mile down the road, so they have

1517
01:31:20.399 --> 01:31:21.199
sixty acres.

1518
01:31:21.279 --> 01:31:23.159
And she had a ton of stories to tell me.

1519
01:31:23.800 --> 01:31:25.960
When she moved there in the eighties, there was nothing

1520
01:31:26.039 --> 01:31:29.760
out there, not my house, not any of the houses

1521
01:31:29.800 --> 01:31:31.239
that are platted out now.

1522
01:31:31.680 --> 01:31:33.920
And she said, one day her husband was coming home

1523
01:31:33.920 --> 01:31:37.000
from work and you have to go down this road.

1524
01:31:37.119 --> 01:31:40.079
There was nobody was out there, just them, and he

1525
01:31:40.159 --> 01:31:43.439
saw something dark across the road. And she said other

1526
01:31:43.520 --> 01:31:47.640
times she would be home alone, or if the kids

1527
01:31:47.680 --> 01:31:51.640
were small, she always carried a pistol around. She could

1528
01:31:52.199 --> 01:31:56.079
hear them coming in. When she would be outside hanging laundry,

1529
01:31:56.239 --> 01:32:00.199
she could hear them, and she said, Cindy, I felt them.

1530
01:32:00.960 --> 01:32:03.960
And then I noticed that it took her a little

1531
01:32:04.000 --> 01:32:05.720
bit to open up to me. Now if she never

1532
01:32:05.760 --> 01:32:08.800
had a visual but she told me stories. If she

1533
01:32:08.800 --> 01:32:10.600
would do laundry and she would go outside and she

1534
01:32:10.640 --> 01:32:18.520
could hear them, like she knew something was there. So

1535
01:32:18.520 --> 01:32:20.760
so my older son had that happened to him, I

1536
01:32:20.760 --> 01:32:22.319
think like in two thousand and seven.

1537
01:32:22.399 --> 01:32:27.680
And then over the years my younger son, he's like

1538
01:32:28.000 --> 01:32:33.000
another Daniel Boone. I think he was twelve. He asked

1539
01:32:33.079 --> 01:32:34.840
us if he could camp out with some other friends,

1540
01:32:35.920 --> 01:32:39.600
which he did. We allowed him to camp out at

1541
01:32:38.760 --> 01:32:43.159
the local lake there, which is on private property. But

1542
01:32:43.239 --> 01:32:46.239
the public, as the locals, are allowed to come in,

1543
01:32:46.279 --> 01:32:48.800
but you have to like let them know you can't,

1544
01:32:48.880 --> 01:32:52.960
just like the general public can come in. So as

1545
01:32:53.000 --> 01:32:56.760
long as people respected the land, these people's three thousand

1546
01:32:56.760 --> 01:32:59.199
and four thousand acres, then you could go on to

1547
01:32:59.279 --> 01:33:01.239
their property and go to the lake or go hunting

1548
01:33:01.239 --> 01:33:03.720
more or whatever. But they're you know, so people there

1549
01:33:03.800 --> 01:33:08.720
respected that because people wanted access to that. So my

1550
01:33:08.840 --> 01:33:12.920
younger son was camping with some friends and they took

1551
01:33:14.039 --> 01:33:17.920
they took the four wheelers out there. Well you'd think

1552
01:33:18.039 --> 01:33:21.920
that they would have came home or called us.

1553
01:33:22.039 --> 01:33:23.720
I'm trying to think what year that was, because I

1554
01:33:24.000 --> 01:33:28.439
know we had cell phones. Yes, yeah, so they didn't

1555
01:33:28.479 --> 01:33:29.199
have a phone.

1556
01:33:28.960 --> 01:33:32.279
Because they called. So they were out there camping and

1557
01:33:32.319 --> 01:33:35.119
then they heard something walking around in the shallow water

1558
01:33:35.199 --> 01:33:38.600
and then they heard like a like a heavy like

1559
01:33:38.800 --> 01:33:41.039
something big being thrown into the shallow end of the water.

1560
01:33:41.079 --> 01:33:43.760
It made a big splash because my son told me

1561
01:33:43.760 --> 01:33:46.720
the next morning that because they called us because the

1562
01:33:46.760 --> 01:33:49.399
four wheelers had died, because they heard this noise and

1563
01:33:49.439 --> 01:33:55.640
then they heard some some more crunching in the shallow

1564
01:33:55.760 --> 01:33:58.119
end and it scared them, so they turned all the

1565
01:33:58.199 --> 01:34:01.239
lights of the four wheeler. I think they called fish

1566
01:34:01.279 --> 01:34:04.079
and Game or I don't know, but they called someone,

1567
01:34:04.720 --> 01:34:08.119
not nine one one, but dispatched. They called somebody. But

1568
01:34:08.199 --> 01:34:10.279
it was funny. I was like, why didn't you call us?

1569
01:34:10.279 --> 01:34:12.319
Like all we had to do was go down the

1570
01:34:12.399 --> 01:34:16.359
road and come and get you. Well, they didn't call us,

1571
01:34:16.439 --> 01:34:20.279
and my husband had to go help we start the

1572
01:34:20.279 --> 01:34:22.399
four wheeler and they came home and then we heard

1573
01:34:22.399 --> 01:34:23.079
about the story.

1574
01:34:23.600 --> 01:34:27.000
I'm like, oh my gosh, seriously, this is not okay.

1575
01:34:28.199 --> 01:34:32.880
So by this time I started working with some of

1576
01:34:32.920 --> 01:34:35.800
the local tribes there, the quarter Laine. I have friends

1577
01:34:35.800 --> 01:34:40.600
in the Quarterlane. I have very close family members I

1578
01:34:40.640 --> 01:34:43.880
called my sisters in the Spokane tribe, the Colville Nation.

1579
01:34:44.239 --> 01:34:46.680
The callis bell, And one thing I have learned from

1580
01:34:46.720 --> 01:34:51.119
them as my journey started changing, is that you can

1581
01:34:51.199 --> 01:34:51.920
talk to them.

1582
01:34:52.319 --> 01:34:54.560
You can take back your property. There's a way to

1583
01:34:54.560 --> 01:34:57.359
do this. You have to respect the forest people, and

1584
01:34:57.399 --> 01:34:59.239
I always used to think, why are you calling the

1585
01:34:59.239 --> 01:35:01.760
forest people? Because still at this time I still had

1586
01:35:01.800 --> 01:35:05.399
the mentality of plush and blood. But I think subconsciously

1587
01:35:05.439 --> 01:35:11.079
some other things had happened, which I would be outside

1588
01:35:11.319 --> 01:35:12.319
and I.

1589
01:35:12.239 --> 01:35:14.720
Heard my name being called from the woods one time

1590
01:35:15.000 --> 01:35:19.079
and there was nobody there. I would hear grunts and

1591
01:35:19.159 --> 01:35:24.560
there was nothing there. Footprints would just end. There wasn't

1592
01:35:24.600 --> 01:35:28.000
necessarily a trackway. I had found two prints underneath my

1593
01:35:28.039 --> 01:35:30.840
window where I sleep, and then eventually there was a

1594
01:35:30.880 --> 01:35:34.840
path made that looped from the woods underneath my window

1595
01:35:34.840 --> 01:35:37.520
where I sleep, and it looped back into the woods.

1596
01:35:38.000 --> 01:35:43.399
That's a whole other crazy story. So so now my

1597
01:35:43.479 --> 01:35:44.640
son has had an encounter.

1598
01:35:44.760 --> 01:35:47.720
My older son has had a when they were counting

1599
01:35:47.720 --> 01:35:49.880
in two thousand and seven, and then my younger son

1600
01:35:49.920 --> 01:35:51.960
had this happen, And now I'm like, oh, heck no.

1601
01:35:52.640 --> 01:35:56.600
So I started to do a lot of research, like,

1602
01:35:56.920 --> 01:35:59.000
you know, like what can I do to get this

1603
01:35:59.119 --> 01:36:02.399
under control? Because I was not happy with this situation.

1604
01:36:02.479 --> 01:36:05.000
I was, you know, like this is crazy.

1605
01:36:05.039 --> 01:36:09.000
So and then you know, and then I was experiencing

1606
01:36:09.039 --> 01:36:12.319
these I guess paranormal things happening in the woods, and

1607
01:36:12.800 --> 01:36:15.159
some other things what you know had happened too. So

1608
01:36:17.039 --> 01:36:22.199
this deer had died, this mama deer, and this baby

1609
01:36:22.199 --> 01:36:23.479
deer had died.

1610
01:36:23.520 --> 01:36:26.279
And we were having a birthday party from my younger son.

1611
01:36:26.359 --> 01:36:29.880
Here here's another example. And while the kids were over,

1612
01:36:30.800 --> 01:36:32.800
and it was his birthdays in January.

1613
01:36:32.840 --> 01:36:36.600
So it's tends of snow outside. We're having like this

1614
01:36:36.640 --> 01:36:41.520
little wiener fire, this hotdog roast out there, and it's snowing.

1615
01:36:41.640 --> 01:36:44.359
It's kind of like, you know, miserable, but of course

1616
01:36:44.399 --> 01:36:47.039
that the kids love it. And here comes it's deer,

1617
01:36:47.119 --> 01:36:49.680
this baby deer. Well, it's not a baby, it's it's

1618
01:36:49.760 --> 01:36:52.479
a a I mean, it's young, and it has its

1619
01:36:52.560 --> 01:36:56.159
tiny horns on. And I hate to say it that

1620
01:36:56.199 --> 01:36:59.239
we were given it some food. I don't agree with that,

1621
01:36:59.359 --> 01:37:02.960
but the locals around there were saying, hey, the steers,

1622
01:37:03.000 --> 01:37:06.960
you know, you know, it's worth the it's walking around.

1623
01:37:07.000 --> 01:37:10.279
So we're kind of got out. So this deer that

1624
01:37:10.319 --> 01:37:13.479
we named I forgot what we needed it. It came

1625
01:37:13.560 --> 01:37:14.399
up and then it left.

1626
01:37:15.039 --> 01:37:21.880
Well, sometime later that year, my neighbor called and I said, yeah, I'll.

1627
01:37:21.800 --> 01:37:23.880
Come and get it. I was going to go to

1628
01:37:23.920 --> 01:37:24.720
her house.

1629
01:37:25.479 --> 01:37:29.720
And when I opened up my door. It was turning

1630
01:37:29.840 --> 01:37:32.000
kind of it was. It was dusk, it was going

1631
01:37:32.039 --> 01:37:35.279
to be dark. It was evening time. And my neighbor

1632
01:37:35.319 --> 01:37:38.399
lived next door to me, like two acres down and

1633
01:37:38.560 --> 01:37:41.960
they also had like five and a half acres. I

1634
01:37:42.039 --> 01:37:44.960
was going to walk through the woods, but I passed

1635
01:37:44.960 --> 01:37:47.720
by the horse trailer and the horse trailer started rocking,

1636
01:37:49.000 --> 01:37:52.520
and I thought, oh, there's an animal in there. And

1637
01:37:52.560 --> 01:37:54.880
I thought, well, maybe it was that deer, But how

1638
01:37:54.960 --> 01:37:56.560
is it going to get in there? How is any

1639
01:37:56.600 --> 01:37:58.800
animal going to get in there because it's a two

1640
01:37:58.800 --> 01:38:02.199
stall horse trailer, the door is really high, but.

1641
01:38:02.199 --> 01:38:04.640
Hey, you just never know. So then what ended up

1642
01:38:04.680 --> 01:38:05.560
happening was.

1643
01:38:06.119 --> 01:38:08.960
I hopped up on the horse trailer and I looked

1644
01:38:09.000 --> 01:38:11.840
inside and it was empty, and I fell to my

1645
01:38:11.960 --> 01:38:14.079
knees and I started praying because at this time now

1646
01:38:14.079 --> 01:38:16.359
I knew it was some kind of spirit, something that

1647
01:38:16.399 --> 01:38:18.600
was trying to get my attention. And I was raised

1648
01:38:18.640 --> 01:38:21.840
very strictly in the Catholic world that you don't mess

1649
01:38:21.880 --> 01:38:24.880
with that. And on top of everything else that I

1650
01:38:25.119 --> 01:38:28.920
had been happening, my name being called there's nothing there

1651
01:38:29.439 --> 01:38:33.800
finding gifts, So now at this point I was finding

1652
01:38:33.840 --> 01:38:38.119
feathers like you know, in weird patterns out in the woods.

1653
01:38:38.439 --> 01:38:41.399
Things would go missing, like a bag of horse feed.

1654
01:38:41.760 --> 01:38:44.359
It would be like at the end of the property, tools,

1655
01:38:44.720 --> 01:38:47.119
bikes would be you know, things were I mean, like

1656
01:38:47.359 --> 01:38:49.640
a lot of stuff is happening. So at this point,

1657
01:38:49.640 --> 01:38:52.960
now I didn't know what was happening. I didn't know, like, okay,

1658
01:38:53.039 --> 01:38:58.199
so now we're talking about paranormal stuff. So I started

1659
01:38:58.199 --> 01:39:00.760
praying and I said, in the name of the Jesus Christ,

1660
01:39:00.840 --> 01:39:04.239
do you part. And I put my hands up and

1661
01:39:04.279 --> 01:39:08.159
I meant it, but I was terrified. And I got

1662
01:39:08.239 --> 01:39:10.640
up and I went to my neighbor's house and she goes,

1663
01:39:11.399 --> 01:39:14.720
you look like you've seen, like what happened? And so

1664
01:39:14.800 --> 01:39:19.399
I told her and then I don't know. I think

1665
01:39:19.439 --> 01:39:21.520
she walked back with me, or she drove me home.

1666
01:39:21.640 --> 01:39:24.039
I refused to walk home. It was dark. There was

1667
01:39:24.039 --> 01:39:25.880
no way because I was I was supposed to go

1668
01:39:25.960 --> 01:39:28.079
there and pick up I think it was a spice

1669
01:39:28.159 --> 01:39:30.319
or something, and then I was going to go home,

1670
01:39:30.600 --> 01:39:34.600
but no, it's dark. And she's like, I.

1671
01:39:34.520 --> 01:39:38.000
Don't know, girl, And so she drove me home, and

1672
01:39:38.680 --> 01:39:42.119
you know, there was nothing there. And then someone eventually

1673
01:39:42.159 --> 01:39:45.039
caught that deer because it was becoming a problem. It was,

1674
01:39:45.119 --> 01:39:48.239
you know, becoming older, and it was starting to harass

1675
01:39:48.439 --> 01:39:51.439
some of the people, and it was moved somewhere.

1676
01:39:51.439 --> 01:39:54.119
But I never got any explanation for any of these

1677
01:39:54.119 --> 01:39:56.760
things that were happening. And then one day I swear

1678
01:39:56.800 --> 01:40:00.960
I heard like Indian chanting out in the but nothing

1679
01:40:01.199 --> 01:40:06.880
like anything like nowadays, Like I'm talking like ancient stuff.

1680
01:40:07.399 --> 01:40:11.800
And then I just was feeling a lot of things,

1681
01:40:11.880 --> 01:40:15.560
and I was confused. I was, you know, my children

1682
01:40:15.640 --> 01:40:17.960
were going up into the mountains riding their drip bikes

1683
01:40:17.960 --> 01:40:24.880
and things. And so my older son graduated school, he

1684
01:40:24.960 --> 01:40:25.760
moved away.

1685
01:40:26.319 --> 01:40:28.119
And so now it's just my younger son at home,

1686
01:40:28.880 --> 01:40:31.800
and the year is twenty seventeen. Like I've left a

1687
01:40:31.840 --> 01:40:34.880
lot of stuff at but the years twenty seventeen, and

1688
01:40:35.479 --> 01:40:39.079
now I'm starting to think, Okay, something is not right here.

1689
01:40:39.319 --> 01:40:41.239
And again I had been starting to work with some

1690
01:40:41.319 --> 01:40:44.119
of some of the tribes there, and they would say,

1691
01:40:44.680 --> 01:40:48.279
you know, the forest people, you need to respect them, So,

1692
01:40:48.960 --> 01:40:51.479
you know, I was kind of starting to see their

1693
01:40:51.640 --> 01:40:55.399
point of view. So I started audio recording and I

1694
01:40:55.520 --> 01:40:58.560
bought one of those cheap audios from Walmart.

1695
01:40:58.880 --> 01:41:01.560
My husband had retired and he was a private investigator.

1696
01:41:01.600 --> 01:41:04.840
So he was a private investigator for ten years until

1697
01:41:04.920 --> 01:41:07.800
I think up until like twenty twenty one when he

1698
01:41:08.279 --> 01:41:12.239
fully retired. So in twenty seventeen, he said, here, here's

1699
01:41:12.279 --> 01:41:14.079
one like use this, and he showed me how to

1700
01:41:14.159 --> 01:41:16.199
use it. I didn't even set up a date, like

1701
01:41:16.199 --> 01:41:18.479
an idiot, because I never think. I never thought I

1702
01:41:18.439 --> 01:41:21.000
already get anything that I was.

1703
01:41:20.960 --> 01:41:24.800
Hearing so many things, and you know, at that time,

1704
01:41:25.399 --> 01:41:27.840
the smart form you know, even in twenty seventeen, the

1705
01:41:27.960 --> 01:41:28.560
smart phones.

1706
01:41:29.359 --> 01:41:31.319
I don't think I had one or it wasn't that great.

1707
01:41:32.000 --> 01:41:35.520
So I got an audio recorder and I started putting

1708
01:41:35.560 --> 01:41:38.000
it out and I started listening, and some of the

1709
01:41:38.039 --> 01:41:41.159
things I got were really really crazy. So from twenty

1710
01:41:41.239 --> 01:41:46.079
seventeen until current is what I really mainly planned to

1711
01:41:46.119 --> 01:41:46.800
talk to about.

1712
01:41:47.000 --> 01:41:56.239
But I got them howling, I got them moaning, as

1713
01:41:56.279 --> 01:41:59.199
in ceremony of a loss.

1714
01:42:00.439 --> 01:42:03.760
My kids would walk with their friends down the road

1715
01:42:03.840 --> 01:42:09.439
and they would hear these sounds and they would take

1716
01:42:09.479 --> 01:42:12.239
the four wheelers, and we had to get I had

1717
01:42:12.279 --> 01:42:12.960
to have rollers.

1718
01:42:13.000 --> 01:42:14.159
With my younger son.

1719
01:42:14.359 --> 01:42:17.479
He would take off on his dirt bike at the

1720
01:42:17.520 --> 01:42:21.279
age of twelve, thirteen, fourteen, because at that time our

1721
01:42:21.319 --> 01:42:23.439
cell phones did not work up in the mountains, and

1722
01:42:24.159 --> 01:42:26.000
he was always gone. He would come back and he

1723
01:42:26.000 --> 01:42:28.960
would tell me a crazy story. Hey, mom, I was

1724
01:42:29.039 --> 01:42:30.399
up in the mountains and.

1725
01:42:30.319 --> 01:42:33.399
We stopped to take a break and to get a drink,

1726
01:42:33.920 --> 01:42:40.520
and the trees were shaking, and they know probably what

1727
01:42:40.560 --> 01:42:42.800
it could be, so they would get on their dirt

1728
01:42:42.800 --> 01:42:46.399
bikes and leave. My son has had different stories like that.

1729
01:42:47.439 --> 01:42:53.479
So I started catching different audios and I became really mesmerized.

1730
01:42:54.119 --> 01:43:00.359
But then May came around, well, actually May May Memorial

1731
01:43:00.359 --> 01:43:02.840
a day. I worked for a friend two nights a week.

1732
01:43:02.880 --> 01:43:08.079
I worked Monday and Fridays, and so this one Monday night,

1733
01:43:09.239 --> 01:43:13.800
it was a Monday before Memorial Day. So now one

1734
01:43:13.840 --> 01:43:16.239
of the properties next to me, a house had been built,

1735
01:43:16.319 --> 01:43:19.600
and he was also ex military, and he was married

1736
01:43:19.800 --> 01:43:24.880
and they he's pretty much a recluse, but he would

1737
01:43:24.880 --> 01:43:26.760
talk to us and we would talk to him, and

1738
01:43:27.359 --> 01:43:29.720
you know, like I said, this is a big guy's

1739
01:43:29.920 --> 01:43:33.159
He worked with the armory stuff, the tanks and all that.

1740
01:43:34.319 --> 01:43:39.239
So you know, I came home on a Monday night

1741
01:43:40.760 --> 01:43:45.640
and my older son was asleep and I walked in

1742
01:43:45.680 --> 01:43:50.159
around eleven ten and my husband said, hey, is that you?

1743
01:43:51.039 --> 01:43:53.840
And he never calls out my name when I came home.

1744
01:43:53.920 --> 01:43:55.880
He knows it's me because the dogs will come and

1745
01:43:55.920 --> 01:44:00.039
greet me. They're not barking. He knows it's me. So

1746
01:44:00.159 --> 01:44:03.319
my neighbor texted me, but I was really tired. I

1747
01:44:03.319 --> 01:44:07.880
didn't read it. I would probably get like a glass

1748
01:44:07.920 --> 01:44:09.840
of wine, or maybe a little fourth of a glass

1749
01:44:09.840 --> 01:44:14.920
of wine to go to sleep, because my mind I'm

1750
01:44:15.000 --> 01:44:18.600
super like ADHD. I mean, add my money is going

1751
01:44:18.640 --> 01:44:20.680
and going and going, and I would take care of

1752
01:44:20.680 --> 01:44:23.239
these two kids and I would have a lot of

1753
01:44:23.279 --> 01:44:28.119
problems with them. Some friends of mine adopted these two

1754
01:44:28.199 --> 01:44:31.359
children through the fostering system and they would leave on

1755
01:44:31.399 --> 01:44:37.159
Monday nights to go practice for a dark team. So

1756
01:44:38.680 --> 01:44:40.199
I said I would work for them. Plus it was

1757
01:44:40.239 --> 01:44:43.600
extra money. So I came home this night and I

1758
01:44:43.680 --> 01:44:46.439
eventually went to bed. I didn't even read my neighbor's text.

1759
01:44:47.079 --> 01:44:52.680
And the next morning, which is Tuesday, we were talking.

1760
01:44:52.800 --> 01:44:55.079
My husband was getting ready to go to work and

1761
01:44:55.359 --> 01:44:57.600
my younger son was gone to school already.

1762
01:44:59.279 --> 01:45:03.680
He said, oh, hey, something slapped the house last night. What.

1763
01:45:05.159 --> 01:45:05.640
I said, what?

1764
01:45:07.000 --> 01:45:09.119
And he said, See, this is why I didn't want

1765
01:45:09.159 --> 01:45:11.119
to tell you, because then you wouldn't have gone to

1766
01:45:11.159 --> 01:45:11.920
sleep last night.

1767
01:45:12.760 --> 01:45:17.039
I was like, okay, whoaa, he said, last night before

1768
01:45:17.039 --> 01:45:21.239
you came home, something slapped the house and he said

1769
01:45:21.319 --> 01:45:26.000
slept And I said where. He said, well, I mean,

1770
01:45:26.359 --> 01:45:28.920
you know who knows. I was laying down. It was

1771
01:45:29.039 --> 01:45:31.760
enough for him to get the rifle. But again, the

1772
01:45:31.800 --> 01:45:35.520
dogs were fine. He walked down the long hallway, opened

1773
01:45:35.600 --> 01:45:37.960
up the sliding glass door and looked outside. Nothing.

1774
01:45:38.000 --> 01:45:40.800
The dogs were fine, So he's fine. Then I come home.

1775
01:45:41.359 --> 01:45:45.079
It's the next morning. I run outside and.

1776
01:45:45.000 --> 01:45:46.800
I'd go on back of the house and I'm or

1777
01:45:47.079 --> 01:45:50.600
like again underneath my bedroom window where there was this

1778
01:45:50.920 --> 01:45:56.000
pathway that had been started over the years, and he

1779
01:45:57.640 --> 01:46:02.479
said he didn't really know where it came from. So

1780
01:46:03.000 --> 01:46:04.319
I came to the front of the house.

1781
01:46:05.039 --> 01:46:07.840
Big for Society will be right back after these messages.

1782
01:46:24.000 --> 01:46:28.800
Where is my running front porch? So I'm not on

1783
01:46:28.800 --> 01:46:29.199
the porch.

1784
01:46:29.279 --> 01:46:32.399
I'm standing in the front yard and I'm looking for

1785
01:46:32.479 --> 01:46:33.359
any kind of sign.

1786
01:46:33.479 --> 01:46:36.840
And on the front of the house are handprints and

1787
01:46:36.880 --> 01:46:41.119
they are big and they are oily. You can see

1788
01:46:41.199 --> 01:46:43.279
just you could tell just by looking at it. And

1789
01:46:43.319 --> 01:46:45.399
I'd run in the house and I tell my husband

1790
01:46:45.840 --> 01:46:49.439
and he just looks at me. Again. He is not worried.

1791
01:46:49.479 --> 01:46:54.520
He is not into this topic. He said, well, what

1792
01:46:54.640 --> 01:46:57.680
it can have to say? I said, oh yeah, Ken

1793
01:46:57.800 --> 01:47:01.640
texted us and I read it and it was a

1794
01:47:01.640 --> 01:47:07.039
long text. He said, hey, heads up. My motion like

1795
01:47:07.199 --> 01:47:11.439
keep going off, you know, which normally it could be

1796
01:47:11.479 --> 01:47:14.239
a deer or something. But he said they keep going off,

1797
01:47:14.680 --> 01:47:17.319
and he said something else to that effect, to where

1798
01:47:17.319 --> 01:47:20.840
it wasn't normal. He said, his cats are hissing. They're

1799
01:47:20.920 --> 01:47:27.720
not acting right. And they said this cat that was feral.

1800
01:47:29.800 --> 01:47:34.079
And he said his bird was going back and forth

1801
01:47:34.119 --> 01:47:36.880
on the perch. He had a cockatail. So he said,

1802
01:47:37.079 --> 01:47:40.239
heads up, you know something is outside. So whatever was

1803
01:47:40.279 --> 01:47:44.159
in my house went through the woods, which is maybe

1804
01:47:44.279 --> 01:47:47.399
half an acre or an acre over to his. His

1805
01:47:47.880 --> 01:47:52.159
property is more wooded than mine, and I have walked

1806
01:47:52.239 --> 01:47:55.119
all those woods a ton of structures over there before

1807
01:47:55.119 --> 01:47:59.600
they built that house. So now I'm reading his texts

1808
01:47:59.600 --> 01:48:02.720
and I I am starting to like, oh, oh, this

1809
01:48:02.960 --> 01:48:08.359
is like too much. He said that he was in.

1810
01:48:08.359 --> 01:48:11.680
His bedroom around midnight and his wife, who is a nurse,

1811
01:48:12.000 --> 01:48:16.159
has to go to sleep early. But he's standing looking

1812
01:48:16.159 --> 01:48:19.279
through his big bay window, or his big glass window

1813
01:48:20.199 --> 01:48:23.119
that looks out to his driveway, which is a horseshye driveway,

1814
01:48:23.640 --> 01:48:26.279
and he said something was standing there on two legs

1815
01:48:27.000 --> 01:48:28.239
and it looked like haunches.

1816
01:48:28.880 --> 01:48:32.000
Okay, what do you mean haunches? So he's saying this

1817
01:48:32.079 --> 01:48:35.960
in a text and I look at my husband and

1818
01:48:36.039 --> 01:48:37.439
I'm like, what the heck.

1819
01:48:38.039 --> 01:48:41.760
So my husband leaves for work and I said, where

1820
01:48:41.800 --> 01:48:43.800
are you going. You're not going to leave me here,

1821
01:48:43.840 --> 01:48:47.119
are you. He's like, oh, you'll be fine. So my

1822
01:48:47.159 --> 01:48:49.079
husband goes to work and I'm sitting in my kitchen.

1823
01:48:49.239 --> 01:48:51.319
I call a really my friend who's a real estate agent,

1824
01:48:52.199 --> 01:48:54.399
and I said, hey, how much can I get from

1825
01:48:54.439 --> 01:48:54.880
my house?

1826
01:48:55.439 --> 01:48:58.800
He's like, why you want to sell? And I said,

1827
01:48:58.840 --> 01:49:00.680
just how much can I get from my house? Call

1828
01:49:00.760 --> 01:49:04.079
me back? And I ended up telling him what happened. Now.

1829
01:49:04.079 --> 01:49:06.880
He had an encounter also, so he totally would believe me,

1830
01:49:07.359 --> 01:49:08.640
and he's like, well, that's really cool.

1831
01:49:08.640 --> 01:49:09.239
Can I come over?

1832
01:49:09.279 --> 01:49:12.479
And I was like, yeah, sure, But he never came over,

1833
01:49:14.880 --> 01:49:17.000
and so I went to my neighbors to talk to him,

1834
01:49:17.279 --> 01:49:19.520
to ask him some questions, and.

1835
01:49:19.520 --> 01:49:23.680
He said that he saw this thing looking at him.

1836
01:49:23.720 --> 01:49:27.920
It had pointy ears and it had like backward like haunches.

1837
01:49:28.439 --> 01:49:31.079
That sounds like a dog man. I had never heard

1838
01:49:31.079 --> 01:49:35.800
of a dog Menchell around that time, I'm like, okay,

1839
01:49:35.880 --> 01:49:38.000
so how tall was it?

1840
01:49:38.039 --> 01:49:39.960
And he said it was like seven or something eight

1841
01:49:39.960 --> 01:49:43.000
feet And I said, so, what do you think it was?

1842
01:49:43.039 --> 01:49:45.159
And he said, oh, it was a bear. Of course,

1843
01:49:46.239 --> 01:49:48.880
I said, oh, you think it was a bear? So

1844
01:49:49.319 --> 01:49:51.560
he doesn't know anything what I do. He doesn't know

1845
01:49:51.600 --> 01:49:53.560
I'm into stasquatch. He doesn't know anything.

1846
01:49:54.159 --> 01:49:58.800
I said, well, he said he slept with his pistol

1847
01:49:58.800 --> 01:50:01.319
all night long. I said, well, if you knew it

1848
01:50:01.359 --> 01:50:03.760
wasn't a human and it was a bear, why would

1849
01:50:03.800 --> 01:50:07.720
you sleep with your pistol all night long? Because like

1850
01:50:07.840 --> 01:50:09.239
that's not like I wouldn't.

1851
01:50:08.920 --> 01:50:10.520
Sleep with the pistol if it's a bear, I'm gonna

1852
01:50:10.520 --> 01:50:13.880
go back to sleep, Like, Okay, there's a bear, that's

1853
01:50:14.079 --> 01:50:14.680
no big deal.

1854
01:50:15.560 --> 01:50:17.680
And he looked at me and he got really irritated.

1855
01:50:17.960 --> 01:50:20.199
And I said, what I'm trying to say is like,

1856
01:50:20.680 --> 01:50:22.960
you know, how about like you know, do you think

1857
01:50:23.000 --> 01:50:26.760
it could be like maybe like a bickfoot. He looked

1858
01:50:26.760 --> 01:50:31.600
at me like I was crazy. No, it wasn't a bitfoit. Okay, okay,

1859
01:50:31.840 --> 01:50:33.720
I mean, you know, I'm just going by your description.

1860
01:50:33.800 --> 01:50:36.399
And it's very tall and it has these weird haunches.

1861
01:50:36.439 --> 01:50:40.800
I'm like, that doesn't sound right. So I went home

1862
01:50:42.479 --> 01:50:44.079
and my friend called me from the south, one of

1863
01:50:44.119 --> 01:50:48.199
the guys I used to research with, and he basically

1864
01:50:48.199 --> 01:50:49.439
told me you'll be okay.

1865
01:50:49.680 --> 01:50:51.800
You live there, like, don't let him run you out,

1866
01:50:52.159 --> 01:50:54.239
but stop giving them freaking attention.

1867
01:50:54.560 --> 01:50:58.119
Now. Again, this is a person who grew up with them,

1868
01:50:59.159 --> 01:51:02.680
and his grand father knew if they were buggers. He

1869
01:51:02.720 --> 01:51:03.560
told me to stop.

1870
01:51:03.359 --> 01:51:06.680
Giving it attention, stop giving it energy. So my husband

1871
01:51:06.720 --> 01:51:08.880
heard me tell him that I call it a real

1872
01:51:08.960 --> 01:51:13.239
estate agent. And I hung with the phone with my friend,

1873
01:51:14.359 --> 01:51:17.680
and my husband said, we're not still in this house

1874
01:51:17.720 --> 01:51:18.720
because of that reason.

1875
01:51:19.039 --> 01:51:22.279
And I said, why not. Why can't we stay like

1876
01:51:22.399 --> 01:51:24.800
in this area and just buy some more property but

1877
01:51:24.880 --> 01:51:28.479
no woods or like let's just you know. He's like,

1878
01:51:28.520 --> 01:51:35.159
we have horses. We can't just move. I said, well, okay, crap,

1879
01:51:35.840 --> 01:51:38.279
he said, we're not moving, Like, where are we supposed

1880
01:51:38.279 --> 01:51:42.399
to move to? He said, you get it together, because

1881
01:51:42.920 --> 01:51:46.560
if we move, like when there's no place to move to,

1882
01:51:46.600 --> 01:51:49.960
we can't afford it, and too, it's just like it's

1883
01:51:50.000 --> 01:51:53.800
not a good time to move. And he was serious

1884
01:51:53.840 --> 01:51:56.640
about me not being able to research anymore, even though

1885
01:51:56.680 --> 01:52:00.640
I was living on this property. But he was I'm

1886
01:52:00.760 --> 01:52:04.520
very serious about saying, you know, get it together, and

1887
01:52:04.560 --> 01:52:08.079
so I did. So I kind of just took a

1888
01:52:08.119 --> 01:52:13.239
step back, and I stopped paying attention to stuff. I mean,

1889
01:52:13.560 --> 01:52:17.800
they were there. I knew that. I started audio recording

1890
01:52:17.840 --> 01:52:20.920
and then I was picking up sounds like crazy audios.

1891
01:52:21.640 --> 01:52:26.439
Twenty seventeen is when things started changing for me. I

1892
01:52:27.000 --> 01:52:33.199
wanted answers. My son was camping by himself, so now

1893
01:52:33.239 --> 01:52:37.840
he's I think he's fifteen or sixteen. He's camping and

1894
01:52:37.880 --> 01:52:40.760
he asked us if he could camp in this one area,

1895
01:52:41.119 --> 01:52:44.039
which is state land, and I said, absolutely not. You

1896
01:52:44.079 --> 01:52:46.600
can go up on the mountain to the area where

1897
01:52:46.960 --> 01:52:50.279
your dad knows in case something happens, we cannot only

1898
01:52:50.319 --> 01:52:52.319
get to you buy a four wheel or not even

1899
01:52:52.359 --> 01:52:54.720
because we didn't have a geep like I have a

1900
01:52:54.760 --> 01:52:57.560
deep today, but we have a big truck. There was

1901
01:52:57.600 --> 01:52:58.920
no way this big truck is going to make it

1902
01:52:58.960 --> 01:53:02.000
up there, at least I don't think so. But so

1903
01:53:03.119 --> 01:53:05.920
he said. A friend was supposed to meet him. So

1904
01:53:05.920 --> 01:53:14.439
my son had a flatbed trailer where he built this

1905
01:53:15.520 --> 01:53:20.079
tent on top of it, and it was very genius.

1906
01:53:20.399 --> 01:53:22.039
He took all of his gear and he went to

1907
01:53:22.119 --> 01:53:26.159
this location and I said, okay, please, you know, don't

1908
01:53:26.159 --> 01:53:29.279
go to the other area. Well, the next day he

1909
01:53:29.359 --> 01:53:32.439
came home and he walked through the door and his

1910
01:53:32.520 --> 01:53:38.199
eyes were big, and he told me what happened to him.

1911
01:53:38.199 --> 01:53:40.079
Well, one he went to the area where we told

1912
01:53:40.119 --> 01:53:43.199
him not to not to camp out, so he knew

1913
01:53:43.239 --> 01:53:46.119
he was in trouble. He said, Mom, I was in

1914
01:53:46.119 --> 01:53:50.720
my tent and I heard something heavy walking, but it

1915
01:53:50.840 --> 01:53:53.159
wasn't like a bipedal.

1916
01:53:53.399 --> 01:53:57.279
It was like bipedal walking side by side, but it

1917
01:53:57.359 --> 01:54:00.800
was different. And then he said, squeezed at me. I said,

1918
01:54:00.960 --> 01:54:04.560
squeezed at you. He said yeah, And then it came

1919
01:54:04.600 --> 01:54:08.640
around and he said he was really really scared. And

1920
01:54:08.680 --> 01:54:11.439
I said, well, I didn't know what happened. He said,

1921
01:54:11.479 --> 01:54:15.600
well it left. I said, left the dning you come home,

1922
01:54:15.960 --> 01:54:18.600
he said, all I went to sleep. I was pulling

1923
01:54:18.600 --> 01:54:21.960
my hair out. I was like, are you serious, Like

1924
01:54:21.960 --> 01:54:27.720
why'd you go over there? And I said, so, what

1925
01:54:27.800 --> 01:54:29.399
did you hear? He said it.

1926
01:54:29.479 --> 01:54:33.920
Sounded like a pterodactyl. I said, what, what the heck

1927
01:54:33.960 --> 01:54:36.640
are you talking about. I was expecting him to stay

1928
01:54:36.680 --> 01:54:39.880
a sasquatch, but it didn't.

1929
01:54:40.560 --> 01:54:42.880
And to this day, we will pull up a YouTube

1930
01:54:42.920 --> 01:54:46.720
video play a chair dactyl sound and it sounds just

1931
01:54:46.760 --> 01:54:52.039
like that. So that's another encounter that he's had. My

1932
01:54:52.119 --> 01:54:55.000
son has been chased by.

1933
01:54:56.600 --> 01:55:03.560
A person thing that chased him on another time. This was,

1934
01:55:03.840 --> 01:55:06.640
you know, care normal, weird crap.

1935
01:55:07.479 --> 01:55:10.199
Another night, this is right before he learned how to drive.

1936
01:55:10.640 --> 01:55:16.119
These kids, I tell you what they would put on

1937
01:55:16.239 --> 01:55:23.520
their car hearts, zip up jackets, their hats, and he

1938
01:55:24.039 --> 01:55:27.560
would and his friends would ride the four wheelers to

1939
01:55:27.720 --> 01:55:30.920
each other's homes. And we had rules, calm we could

1940
01:55:30.920 --> 01:55:32.920
get through. And yes, I had to come to the

1941
01:55:32.960 --> 01:55:35.439
point to where I had to be okay with this

1942
01:55:35.600 --> 01:55:38.560
at some point because life doesn't stop and we were

1943
01:55:38.600 --> 01:55:41.560
not moving, and my son was active outdoors, he was

1944
01:55:41.640 --> 01:55:43.479
up on the mountain, so I had to find I

1945
01:55:43.479 --> 01:55:46.960
had to find some peace somewhere. And my husband flat out, Tommy,

1946
01:55:47.600 --> 01:55:51.840
you gotta let the kid off the boob, Cindy, you know,

1947
01:55:51.920 --> 01:55:55.680
my husband's really crude. When he I was like, okay,

1948
01:55:55.920 --> 01:56:02.560
gay fine and fine. So my son was went to

1949
01:56:02.600 --> 01:56:05.560
a friend's house one day and it was nighttime and.

1950
01:56:05.479 --> 01:56:09.319
I said, he said he was gonna bring home, bring

1951
01:56:09.359 --> 01:56:12.640
his friend home with them, and they had a PlayStation two. Well,

1952
01:56:12.640 --> 01:56:15.199
they stopped at the grange, which is right by this

1953
01:56:15.239 --> 01:56:16.640
property where they had this encounter.

1954
01:56:17.880 --> 01:56:20.079
It was a full moon out there were sitting on

1955
01:56:20.119 --> 01:56:24.359
the swings. It was nine something and I remember looking

1956
01:56:24.520 --> 01:56:30.199
at my phone thinking, Okay, they haven't called me yet,

1957
01:56:30.239 --> 01:56:32.760
Like you know, they said they would call because they

1958
01:56:32.840 --> 01:56:34.159
were they wanted to come back home.

1959
01:56:34.600 --> 01:56:36.439
And so what I would have done is I would

1960
01:56:36.439 --> 01:56:38.640
have got on my truck and gone and met them

1961
01:56:39.119 --> 01:56:43.640
at the bottom of the mountain where my son would

1962
01:56:43.640 --> 01:56:47.680
have come out from. Now, the way he goes to

1963
01:56:47.800 --> 01:56:52.840
this property, I still cannot believe that he went through

1964
01:56:53.560 --> 01:56:57.520
by this ramp, this lonely road. There's nothing there, just

1965
01:56:57.560 --> 01:57:03.840
this lake, this pro there's four thousand acres of and

1966
01:57:04.079 --> 01:57:05.199
state land all around.

1967
01:57:06.039 --> 01:57:08.000
Then he has to go through state land, then he

1968
01:57:08.079 --> 01:57:10.720
comes out in the residential farming area. Then he has

1969
01:57:10.760 --> 01:57:13.359
to cross this road and go up this all the mountain.

1970
01:57:13.479 --> 01:57:17.720
I'm like, oh my gosh. You know, so they walk

1971
01:57:17.800 --> 01:57:19.279
in the door. I don't know what time it is.

1972
01:57:19.319 --> 01:57:22.319
It's late. I'm like, why don't you call me? I

1973
01:57:22.359 --> 01:57:25.800
was like all worked up, and he said, Mom, we

1974
01:57:25.800 --> 01:57:29.319
were we stopped at the grange. I was gonna call you.

1975
01:57:29.439 --> 01:57:31.800
He said, Sorry, I forgot, he said, but man, we

1976
01:57:31.800 --> 01:57:35.520
were sitting there and I look up and now my

1977
01:57:35.600 --> 01:57:38.399
son didn't have a rifle. In fact, it might have

1978
01:57:38.439 --> 01:57:41.800
been a shotgun. And he was sixteen or seventeen, and

1979
01:57:42.640 --> 01:57:46.079
I think he was sixteen, So up there, that's very normal.

1980
01:57:46.199 --> 01:57:49.279
You know. Again, probably some of these people, if they're

1981
01:57:49.319 --> 01:57:52.159
hearing this, they're thinking, what kind of parent lets there. Well,

1982
01:57:52.199 --> 01:57:52.920
I'm gonna tell you what.

1983
01:57:53.239 --> 01:57:57.199
Raka has learned how to use the weapons and respect them.

1984
01:57:57.760 --> 01:58:00.960
And he had a rifle with them, you know, because.

1985
01:58:00.760 --> 01:58:01.359
They're out there.

1986
01:58:01.399 --> 01:58:04.399
There's grizzly bears, there's mountain lions, there's bear I mean

1987
01:58:04.479 --> 01:58:05.479
you just you know, there's all.

1988
01:58:05.439 --> 01:58:07.800
Kinds of stuff out there. So, yes, he had a rifle,

1989
01:58:07.880 --> 01:58:12.760
but I think it was a shotgun. Well, they were

1990
01:58:12.760 --> 01:58:15.319
sitting at the grange. They looked up. There's this road

1991
01:58:15.720 --> 01:58:19.000
that crosses over the over this creek, and there's a

1992
01:58:19.039 --> 01:58:23.720
bridge that looks old and rickety, like time had not

1993
01:58:23.880 --> 01:58:24.359
touched it.

1994
01:58:25.039 --> 01:58:27.039
So they're sitting on these things and they're looking at

1995
01:58:27.079 --> 01:58:30.399
this bridge and they see this person walking up. Now

1996
01:58:30.439 --> 01:58:32.920
it's winter time where it's it's very very cold out.

1997
01:58:33.680 --> 01:58:39.600
This person has on like a hoodie and like pants

1998
01:58:39.640 --> 01:58:42.720
like sweats or jeans or I don't know, but they

1999
01:58:42.760 --> 01:58:46.319
don't have a coat on. So they're like looking at

2000
01:58:46.319 --> 01:58:50.359
this person. And they crossed the bridge and they stop

2001
01:58:50.399 --> 01:58:53.079
and they look over at my son and his friend.

2002
01:58:53.640 --> 01:58:55.680
Now my son had they had parked before a wheeler,

2003
01:58:55.760 --> 01:58:57.720
they had got off, they had gone through the gate

2004
01:58:58.640 --> 01:58:59.600
or around the gate.

2005
01:58:59.399 --> 01:59:01.880
And they sat in the speaks. So now they're looking

2006
01:59:01.880 --> 01:59:07.600
out this person who's looking at them, and my son's friend,

2007
01:59:07.600 --> 01:59:11.760
who is not exactly the sharpest tool in the tool box,

2008
01:59:12.279 --> 01:59:16.000
stood up and goes yo, man, like you know, hey,

2009
01:59:16.039 --> 01:59:21.159
what's up? And this guy puts out his hands and

2010
01:59:21.199 --> 01:59:26.640
starts sprinting towards them. They both hop up go around

2011
01:59:26.760 --> 01:59:29.960
the gate and they hop on the flour wheeler, and

2012
01:59:30.039 --> 01:59:35.039
this person has crossed the field in speed lightning. And

2013
01:59:35.079 --> 01:59:37.000
then when this person sees that they're going to take

2014
01:59:37.000 --> 01:59:39.399
off down the road, the guy cuts off through the

2015
01:59:39.399 --> 01:59:42.319
field and then it comes to a to a like

2016
01:59:42.359 --> 01:59:46.319
a tee and let me tell you what. This guy

2017
01:59:46.359 --> 01:59:49.000
tried to grab them. This guy got so close that

2018
01:59:49.119 --> 01:59:51.880
my son looked and he said he had a black face.

2019
01:59:52.199 --> 01:59:54.720
There was no face there, mom. So he told me,

2020
01:59:55.159 --> 01:59:58.359
and now I'm thinking, what is going on here? And

2021
01:59:58.399 --> 02:00:00.800
I said, and then what happened? He said, Well, we

2022
02:00:00.880 --> 02:00:04.319
kept going. We didn't stop like you know, there's like

2023
02:00:04.359 --> 02:00:08.079
a stop saying there. And he said this this person

2024
02:00:08.159 --> 02:00:10.359
kept up with them. He said, Mom, I was going

2025
02:00:10.399 --> 02:00:12.760
forty five miles an hour. That's dangerous with two people

2026
02:00:12.760 --> 02:00:15.119
on the four wheeler no helmets. But hey, that's just

2027
02:00:15.119 --> 02:00:18.720
how we roll. Somebody wants to judge me, that's fine.

2028
02:00:18.880 --> 02:00:22.039
You know. They crossed the road to come down to

2029
02:00:22.119 --> 02:00:23.800
the cutoff rog that comes to our house.

2030
02:00:24.319 --> 02:00:27.119
Beig for Society will be right back. After these messages.

2031
02:00:43.920 --> 02:00:46.600
This person thing, whatever it is, was keeping up with

2032
02:00:46.640 --> 02:00:50.800
them steadily back. I then said, he stopped the flour wheeler.

2033
02:00:50.960 --> 02:00:53.079
He was gonna they were going to shoot this person.

2034
02:00:54.439 --> 02:00:58.640
And this person was gone. They came home told me

2035
02:00:58.720 --> 02:00:59.079
the story.

2036
02:00:59.199 --> 02:01:04.880
I'm like, wow, I call the Sheriff's office. And then

2037
02:01:04.920 --> 02:01:08.159
I realized I can't say there's no faith there, so

2038
02:01:08.239 --> 02:01:11.039
I kept the story basic. There was somebody chasing the kids,

2039
02:01:11.640 --> 02:01:15.560
and can you bring some patrol out here. So I

2040
02:01:15.560 --> 02:01:18.880
got in the truck with the kids, went to the area.

2041
02:01:20.119 --> 02:01:24.119
They ran me down the story what happened? There was

2042
02:01:24.159 --> 02:01:27.560
nobody there, and then I said, show me the way

2043
02:01:27.600 --> 02:01:30.600
you come home. So I went down the road. And

2044
02:01:30.640 --> 02:01:33.439
then when we got to the state Land, he says,

2045
02:01:33.479 --> 02:01:35.520
then then I go through there, and I go through.

2046
02:01:35.560 --> 02:01:38.880
I'm like, are you kidding me? You are going through

2047
02:01:38.920 --> 02:01:43.680
the state Land. Oh yeah, that's how I always go. Okay,

2048
02:01:43.920 --> 02:01:48.000
So we go home. A week or two later, they're

2049
02:01:48.039 --> 02:01:53.039
out pulling sleds. It's snowing. There's a couple of kids out,

2050
02:01:53.039 --> 02:01:56.279
there's two four wheelers. This thing pops out again starts

2051
02:01:56.319 --> 02:02:00.319
chasing him. Now I don't know what happened. At that time,

2052
02:02:00.399 --> 02:02:04.279
it wasn't as crazy as the first story. So this

2053
02:02:04.399 --> 02:02:08.119
is my younger son who's had these not necessarily sasquatch encounters,

2054
02:02:08.119 --> 02:02:11.399
but weird things that have happened to him. I have

2055
02:02:11.520 --> 02:02:13.159
got another audio recorder.

2056
02:02:13.159 --> 02:02:17.600
One night where it's eleven o'clock, I am talking to

2057
02:02:17.720 --> 02:02:19.239
my son again, a teenager.

2058
02:02:20.800 --> 02:02:23.159
It's I'm in my kitchen.

2059
02:02:23.680 --> 02:02:26.000
I turn on my audio recorder like I always did,

2060
02:02:26.039 --> 02:02:28.279
and I stuck it on the back porch and.

2061
02:02:29.800 --> 02:02:33.319
I'm mad about something. I'm talking to my son and

2062
02:02:33.600 --> 02:02:39.359
you can hear on the audio they're doing ooh, ooh, ooh.

2063
02:02:40.000 --> 02:02:43.760
And then you hear me talking and I'm like, hey, no, no, no,

2064
02:02:43.840 --> 02:02:47.680
no no, and then you can hear it. Go oh.

2065
02:02:47.800 --> 02:02:50.720
So I have that audio. It's I'll send it to you.

2066
02:02:51.199 --> 02:02:55.279
It is crazy. So all these things have happened to

2067
02:02:56.159 --> 02:03:01.560
my son. Twenty seventeen, again, is when a lot of

2068
02:03:01.600 --> 02:03:05.399
the cysts started happening, and I am glad I didn't

2069
02:03:05.399 --> 02:03:09.800
sell my house Thanksgiving time. I was coming home one

2070
02:03:09.880 --> 02:03:12.720
night again from the same for people that I worked for.

2071
02:03:12.800 --> 02:03:15.000
It was Friday night. I came home. It was going

2072
02:03:15.039 --> 02:03:17.399
to be Thanksgiving. And I know this because I was

2073
02:03:17.439 --> 02:03:19.199
coming down at our long rub and I was thinking,

2074
02:03:19.279 --> 02:03:21.880
what are we going to do with Thanksgiving? It was

2075
02:03:21.920 --> 02:03:26.359
twenty seventeen, and we had gotten this dog Gunner. I'm

2076
02:03:26.359 --> 02:03:29.199
going to tell you the story after this would happened

2077
02:03:29.199 --> 02:03:32.600
in twenty eighteen. So we got this dog in twenty

2078
02:03:32.720 --> 02:03:38.960
seventeen because we built a shop and we had clear

2079
02:03:39.039 --> 02:03:42.840
two acres and when they delivered the material for the shop,

2080
02:03:44.560 --> 02:03:48.359
I noticed the activity was ramping up, and I realized

2081
02:03:48.600 --> 02:03:50.520
that I had put out my audio of a quarner.

2082
02:03:50.680 --> 02:03:54.399
And this is like September August September. We were building

2083
02:03:54.399 --> 02:03:59.159
the shop. A couple of things happened that were unfortunate.

2084
02:03:59.439 --> 02:04:03.159
One my son's dog got run over by heavy machinery

2085
02:04:03.680 --> 02:04:08.880
and he died. So my sins blab, I mean my

2086
02:04:08.960 --> 02:04:12.680
son's dog, Jackson died. And then when.

2087
02:04:14.239 --> 02:04:18.319
They delivered the heavy metal the sheeting for the shop,

2088
02:04:19.560 --> 02:04:22.800
they just put it out there and I put my

2089
02:04:22.840 --> 02:04:24.159
audio recorder aut The next.

2090
02:04:24.119 --> 02:04:27.239
Day I heard two of those.

2091
02:04:29.399 --> 02:04:34.840
I heard two clanking sounds. No human, not four men

2092
02:04:35.159 --> 02:04:38.880
could have grabbed the twenty five long foot of the

2093
02:04:38.880 --> 02:04:43.039
metal sheeting. It came on an eighteen wheeler that had

2094
02:04:43.079 --> 02:04:45.520
that barely got through my road because my road is very,

2095
02:04:45.600 --> 02:04:48.600
very skinny. And the guy kind of got mad at

2096
02:04:48.680 --> 02:04:51.039
us and said, you didn't tell us if we were property.

2097
02:04:51.119 --> 02:04:52.479
Hey, we didn't know you were going to it was

2098
02:04:52.479 --> 02:04:55.439
gonna be like that. So they delivered it. They laid

2099
02:04:55.439 --> 02:04:58.000
it down that night. I put up my audio recorder auf.

2100
02:04:58.039 --> 02:04:59.960
The next morning I was hearing it. You can hear.

2101
02:05:01.840 --> 02:05:05.479
Something had gotten the metal and just slammed it down.

2102
02:05:05.520 --> 02:05:06.279
Three times.

2103
02:05:06.520 --> 02:05:11.079
And then I heard at from the woods, so again

2104
02:05:11.760 --> 02:05:12.680
I went out of the woods.

2105
02:05:12.720 --> 02:05:16.199
The next day, I said, uh, okay, well we're building

2106
02:05:16.239 --> 02:05:18.760
a shop here. We had to clean. We had to

2107
02:05:18.800 --> 02:05:26.079
clear two or three acres. Sorry, stop paying the shop. Okay,

2108
02:05:26.199 --> 02:05:29.640
like it's done, we're gonna build it. I said, I'm

2109
02:05:29.680 --> 02:05:32.399
sorry we disrespected you and didn't ask you.

2110
02:05:32.920 --> 02:05:37.159
And then I left them some tobacco and I walked

2111
02:05:37.159 --> 02:05:40.359
in the house again. These are things that were taught

2112
02:05:40.359 --> 02:05:44.880
to me from my Native American friends. And then my

2113
02:05:44.920 --> 02:05:48.039
son's dog died, and then we went and got another.

2114
02:05:47.760 --> 02:05:51.119
Dog because he was very sad. We got this black lab.

2115
02:05:52.680 --> 02:05:55.800
He was seven months old. His name is Gunner. I

2116
02:05:55.880 --> 02:05:58.840
had another big dog, her name is Roxy. She is

2117
02:05:58.880 --> 02:06:02.039
a melanute that I got I think in twenty thirteen.

2118
02:06:02.119 --> 02:06:04.319
So now I have Roxy and we have this lab.

2119
02:06:05.039 --> 02:06:08.159
And Gunner was taken off all the freaking times. So

2120
02:06:08.239 --> 02:06:10.880
we had to put up this fence. So we put

2121
02:06:10.920 --> 02:06:11.800
this fence up.

2122
02:06:12.479 --> 02:06:15.039
And the story comes in where I was coming in

2123
02:06:15.199 --> 02:06:21.560
from work around November and we had this fence was

2124
02:06:21.600 --> 02:06:24.000
probably maybe a month or so old.

2125
02:06:24.359 --> 02:06:26.079
So we also put in a doggy.

2126
02:06:25.760 --> 02:06:31.319
Door from our front port so the dogs would come

2127
02:06:31.319 --> 02:06:34.720
out through the front port and then they're in one

2128
02:06:34.760 --> 02:06:35.720
acre that's fenced in.

2129
02:06:37.000 --> 02:06:41.399
So I came home this one night and I pulled

2130
02:06:41.520 --> 02:06:44.399
up our driveway and I remember thinking, oh, I wish

2131
02:06:44.439 --> 02:06:46.800
my husband would put a light on the shop, which

2132
02:06:46.840 --> 02:06:49.760
we did eventually, because our driveway is kind of long,

2133
02:06:49.840 --> 02:06:53.520
and it's a rock driveway, it's not concrete or anything

2134
02:06:53.560 --> 02:06:58.279
like that, but still, and I got down from our

2135
02:06:58.319 --> 02:07:01.680
truck and then I door and I heard from across

2136
02:07:01.680 --> 02:07:05.000
the street a huge like a log snapped, and I

2137
02:07:05.079 --> 02:07:08.279
shut the door and all left across the street, and

2138
02:07:08.319 --> 02:07:11.399
then I ran to the gate, went and run. But

2139
02:07:12.239 --> 02:07:14.880
there was something different about this, like they went out

2140
02:07:14.880 --> 02:07:17.800
of their way to get me to notice them. So

2141
02:07:18.720 --> 02:07:22.319
I had to open the gate, which was kind of

2142
02:07:22.359 --> 02:07:26.560
hard because Gunner at the dog the lab had figured

2143
02:07:26.560 --> 02:07:28.520
out I had to hit the gate and the latch

2144
02:07:28.520 --> 02:07:31.000
would unlocked, and so my husband just tied this thing around.

2145
02:07:31.640 --> 02:07:37.199
So I ended the gate and I opened the gate

2146
02:07:37.239 --> 02:07:39.279
and I closed it and I tied it shut, and

2147
02:07:39.319 --> 02:07:42.199
then there was another crack from across the street, and

2148
02:07:42.279 --> 02:07:43.479
I walked to the front porch.

2149
02:07:44.399 --> 02:07:47.840
I looked, I turned around, I was tired, I was annoyed.

2150
02:07:47.920 --> 02:07:50.000
I was thinking about quitting my job because when one

2151
02:07:50.000 --> 02:07:52.680
of the kids was very rough and I think something

2152
02:07:52.720 --> 02:07:54.960
had happened that night to where they wouldn't go to sleep,

2153
02:07:55.279 --> 02:07:57.920
and I had to go through a series of exercises

2154
02:07:58.359 --> 02:07:59.079
to get them.

2155
02:07:59.159 --> 02:08:02.439
Like, you can't just of these kids. They would have behavioral,

2156
02:08:02.840 --> 02:08:06.399
serious behavioral issues. So I really didn't care to hear

2157
02:08:06.479 --> 02:08:08.680
any of these noises. I wasn't really, I mean, I

2158
02:08:08.800 --> 02:08:12.159
was afraid. But I turned around and I looked across

2159
02:08:12.159 --> 02:08:15.800
the street and I said what And then my dog

2160
02:08:15.880 --> 02:08:19.520
came through the doggy door and laid down the gunner

2161
02:08:19.600 --> 02:08:21.560
laid down my other dog's door, my mail, and you

2162
02:08:21.640 --> 02:08:26.600
did not come out. And I said, that is your house.

2163
02:08:26.640 --> 02:08:28.560
And I pointed to the mountain across the street and

2164
02:08:28.600 --> 02:08:29.520
I said, this is mine.

2165
02:08:29.560 --> 02:08:33.399
I'm going to bed. I said, quit it. I shut

2166
02:08:33.399 --> 02:08:35.399
the door, closed the doggy door, and I went to bed.

2167
02:08:36.039 --> 02:08:39.000
The next day I had to go get my son

2168
02:08:39.039 --> 02:08:39.600
from school.

2169
02:08:40.560 --> 02:08:42.880
Now the property across the street, I know this property

2170
02:08:42.960 --> 02:08:46.279
because it was empty. We knew the owners. They had

2171
02:08:46.279 --> 02:08:47.079
bought this property.

2172
02:08:47.159 --> 02:08:51.239
They lived somewhere close to Seattle, and they had plans

2173
02:08:51.279 --> 02:08:52.119
to build on there.

2174
02:08:52.159 --> 02:08:54.760
One day, so they asked us to watch it, and.

2175
02:08:54.640 --> 02:08:56.960
Our kids played on there, and sometimes we would let

2176
02:08:57.000 --> 02:08:59.920
our horses back in the day eat from this proper

2177
02:09:00.560 --> 02:09:03.239
and because you know, in springtime.

2178
02:09:02.760 --> 02:09:04.680
The grass was always the outer Plus we had thrown

2179
02:09:04.720 --> 02:09:07.920
some clover out there, so I knew this property. Plus

2180
02:09:07.960 --> 02:09:10.239
my kids would make forts across the street, and there

2181
02:09:10.279 --> 02:09:15.560
was a rolling a rolling signature to the property, and

2182
02:09:16.119 --> 02:09:17.920
a lot of the times I knew that they were

2183
02:09:17.960 --> 02:09:20.439
out there spying on me because there was huge game

2184
02:09:20.479 --> 02:09:24.920
trails where elk and moose would come through these big

2185
02:09:24.960 --> 02:09:25.640
game trails.

2186
02:09:26.119 --> 02:09:29.960
And I found traps across the street too on this property,

2187
02:09:30.439 --> 02:09:36.760
and I've heard things. And so the next day after

2188
02:09:36.880 --> 02:09:40.319
hearing that, on that Friday night or whatever night it was,

2189
02:09:41.359 --> 02:09:44.039
I was backing on my truck and I saw across

2190
02:09:44.079 --> 02:09:46.640
the street the tree that I knew so well.

2191
02:09:47.479 --> 02:09:49.520
It was bent over, like one of the arms of

2192
02:09:49.560 --> 02:09:52.199
the tree was bent over. What the heck?

2193
02:09:52.880 --> 02:09:55.800
Now, it hadn't snowed yet, I don't think. So I

2194
02:09:56.720 --> 02:09:58.439
have a Dodge truck, and I got down. I had

2195
02:09:58.520 --> 02:09:59.560
left the door open and.

2196
02:09:59.600 --> 02:10:02.039
It was running, so it was kind of going Dan

2197
02:10:02.159 --> 02:10:08.880
dain ing and I walked into the clearing and I

2198
02:10:08.960 --> 02:10:13.600
looked at this tree and it was bent over in

2199
02:10:13.640 --> 02:10:16.840
a weird way, but I wasn't broken or it was

2200
02:10:16.880 --> 02:10:17.640
twisted weird.

2201
02:10:18.600 --> 02:10:21.199
And then I felt like I was not alone, and

2202
02:10:21.279 --> 02:10:23.720
I could feel I could there was a presence there.

2203
02:10:24.000 --> 02:10:27.039
So I walked to the tree line and I started

2204
02:10:27.079 --> 02:10:29.680
looking for the snapped off branches, and sure enough there

2205
02:10:29.720 --> 02:10:33.680
was three snapped off branches of these pine trees that

2206
02:10:33.800 --> 02:10:36.039
I had heard three snaps in the night before.

2207
02:10:37.039 --> 02:10:41.199
And then I was like, whoa, this is this is

2208
02:10:41.359 --> 02:10:43.119
this is something happened.

2209
02:10:43.159 --> 02:10:47.079
So I started backing off and I got to the

2210
02:10:47.079 --> 02:10:48.640
clearing and I said, I'm leaving.

2211
02:10:48.800 --> 02:10:49.399
I'm leaving.

2212
02:10:49.920 --> 02:10:52.600
And then I walked underneath that tree again and I said,

2213
02:10:52.600 --> 02:10:53.439
did y'all do this?

2214
02:10:53.560 --> 02:10:56.279
Like what happened here? And I got into my truck

2215
02:10:56.279 --> 02:10:56.800
and I left.

2216
02:10:56.800 --> 02:10:59.279
And when we came home, I shared my son and

2217
02:10:59.319 --> 02:11:01.880
he was like, it is wild and I've shown people

2218
02:11:01.920 --> 02:11:02.560
that property.

2219
02:11:03.880 --> 02:11:07.840
So that was twenty seventeen. And then so now we

2220
02:11:07.880 --> 02:11:09.960
have this black lab, we have this spence that we built.

2221
02:11:10.479 --> 02:11:14.920
It's twenty eighteen, spring break, March, the end of March,

2222
02:11:15.319 --> 02:11:17.800
which it still is very cold. Again.

2223
02:11:17.880 --> 02:11:20.720
I put my audio recorder out. It's like twelve thirty am.

2224
02:11:20.920 --> 02:11:23.600
I was watching a movie and the kids were in

2225
02:11:23.640 --> 02:11:27.760
the RV outside and I checked on them. I told him, hey,

2226
02:11:27.760 --> 02:11:29.399
I'm going to bed, y'all need to come in.

2227
02:11:29.439 --> 02:11:34.880
That's fine. So I turned off all the lights and

2228
02:11:34.920 --> 02:11:40.000
I went to bed. Well, Gunner Muster went outside, because

2229
02:11:40.039 --> 02:11:42.159
he came running in like I don't know, it was

2230
02:11:42.199 --> 02:11:44.159
like half an hour later, because I had kind of

2231
02:11:44.199 --> 02:11:45.680
gone to sleep and I had woke up and he

2232
02:11:45.760 --> 02:11:48.920
was freezing. He was coold. I'm like, shoot, did I

2233
02:11:48.960 --> 02:11:51.960
not close the doggy door? So I don't remember if

2234
02:11:51.960 --> 02:11:54.359
I did or not, but I remember he was cold.

2235
02:11:54.560 --> 02:11:58.479
So the next day I got my audio recorder and

2236
02:11:58.479 --> 02:11:59.399
I started playing it.

2237
02:11:59.600 --> 02:12:01.239
I would play it and listen to it while I

2238
02:12:01.239 --> 02:12:05.239
was drinking a coffee. More in five minutes, I can

2239
02:12:05.239 --> 02:12:10.239
hear this dog barking off in the distance, and then

2240
02:12:10.239 --> 02:12:15.520
I hear this and then barking and barking and the

2241
02:12:15.560 --> 02:12:19.640
stained girl. I'm thinking the neighbor's dog, and then I

2242
02:12:19.680 --> 02:12:23.159
realize it's Gunner. It's my dog, and I know exactly

2243
02:12:23.199 --> 02:12:26.760
where he's at. I'm like, oh no, I don't whatever

2244
02:12:28.039 --> 02:12:32.159
you know that's been hanging around here. The kids had

2245
02:12:32.199 --> 02:12:34.560
also been out walking the.

2246
02:12:34.600 --> 02:12:38.039
Night prior the first night, they were out walking and

2247
02:12:38.079 --> 02:12:40.960
they were waiting for another friend to come over, and

2248
02:12:41.600 --> 02:12:43.720
they came in and they said, we hear something heavy

2249
02:12:43.800 --> 02:12:48.399
across the street breathing, and they said it's something big,

2250
02:12:48.520 --> 02:12:48.960
and I.

2251
02:12:48.840 --> 02:12:51.840
Said, okay, well, hold on, I walked outside. Now, one

2252
02:12:51.840 --> 02:12:52.119
of my.

2253
02:12:52.279 --> 02:12:56.319
Friends, my son's friend, told me that his mother didn't

2254
02:12:56.359 --> 02:13:02.800
believe in sasquatch, and.

2255
02:13:00.159 --> 02:13:04.560
Basically they thought I was crazy. I said, really, well,

2256
02:13:06.479 --> 02:13:12.399
you might hear something, and then I made a call.

2257
02:13:12.520 --> 02:13:15.640
I shouldn't have done it, but I did, and yes

2258
02:13:15.960 --> 02:13:17.119
they did. Here's something.

2259
02:13:17.159 --> 02:13:21.319
I don't remember what, but let's just say that he

2260
02:13:22.720 --> 02:13:28.359
peed on my couch and the next day he would

2261
02:13:28.399 --> 02:13:29.199
not stay here.

2262
02:13:29.239 --> 02:13:31.399
So his mother came and picked him up, and I thought, okay, great,

2263
02:13:31.720 --> 02:13:33.560
you know I'm gonna I'm gonna hear something from this

2264
02:13:33.640 --> 02:13:35.680
mom now because I scared her kid.

2265
02:13:36.079 --> 02:13:36.920
So something happened.

2266
02:13:36.920 --> 02:13:39.319
I can't remember, but he did get scared and he

2267
02:13:39.560 --> 02:13:41.880
she came and picked him up and he left. So

2268
02:13:42.000 --> 02:13:45.079
then the next night is when I put the audio

2269
02:13:45.159 --> 02:13:49.039
recorder out, and then they were still out there, and

2270
02:13:49.079 --> 02:13:51.159
then the next day is when I heard Gunner barking.

2271
02:13:51.319 --> 02:13:54.920
And then is when I got that roar and I

2272
02:13:54.960 --> 02:13:57.560
went outside the front porch and Gunner.

2273
02:13:57.439 --> 02:13:59.359
Sat on the front yard and he refused to go

2274
02:13:59.399 --> 02:14:01.880
any deeper the woods, and so I put him on

2275
02:14:01.920 --> 02:14:04.800
a leash and I took him outside of the fence

2276
02:14:04.920 --> 02:14:08.640
and he walked with me. But when we got to

2277
02:14:08.359 --> 02:14:11.079
the end of the driveway where there's no woods, because

2278
02:14:11.079 --> 02:14:13.399
I mean it's my driveway, there's woods to the right,

2279
02:14:14.159 --> 02:14:16.840
I was walking him on the outside of the fence

2280
02:14:17.720 --> 02:14:19.880
and I walked to the corner where he was at.

2281
02:14:20.199 --> 02:14:24.680
My fence had been peeled back on the bottom, which

2282
02:14:24.680 --> 02:14:27.399
I don't understand. And then I could see where Gunner

2283
02:14:27.439 --> 02:14:30.119
had been inside the fence at the corner there of

2284
02:14:30.119 --> 02:14:32.800
my property, and he had dug he was trying to

2285
02:14:32.960 --> 02:14:34.920
something had dug a hole there. I think that was him.

2286
02:14:35.279 --> 02:14:37.760
There's a big game trail that goes outside of my

2287
02:14:37.840 --> 02:14:40.760
fence and it goes straight across the street and up

2288
02:14:40.800 --> 02:14:41.600
into the mountains.

2289
02:14:41.640 --> 02:14:47.319
So whatever something was there and was barking at him, and.

2290
02:14:48.600 --> 02:14:50.760
Something that I do with all my new animals. As

2291
02:14:50.800 --> 02:14:52.680
I introduced him to the property, and I say, this

2292
02:14:52.760 --> 02:14:58.000
is Gunner, you know, hands off. So I was staring

2293
02:14:58.119 --> 02:15:01.159
at the so I'm holding the lead piche of gunner

2294
02:15:01.640 --> 02:15:08.079
and I'm looking across the street and I say something

2295
02:15:08.119 --> 02:15:10.840
to where you know, this is not okay. I go

2296
02:15:10.960 --> 02:15:13.800
back inside and I'm thinking this is really crazy.

2297
02:15:14.039 --> 02:15:17.520
So I play that for the kids that afternoon because

2298
02:15:18.000 --> 02:15:19.640
they got attitudes.

2299
02:15:19.199 --> 02:15:21.800
And they ain't listening to me, you know, And I'm like, okay,

2300
02:15:21.960 --> 02:15:24.359
listen to this. This is why I yell at go nowhere.

2301
02:15:25.000 --> 02:15:28.520
And I played it and they're always got biggest saucers.

2302
02:15:28.560 --> 02:15:33.079
I'm like, yeah, it sounds like a dragon roaring, and

2303
02:15:33.119 --> 02:15:36.720
they're like that's crazy. I'm like, no, something is out there.

2304
02:15:36.920 --> 02:15:38.600
I don't think it's from the regular clan.

2305
02:15:39.159 --> 02:15:42.279
So I went back out there later that evening and

2306
02:15:42.279 --> 02:15:45.000
I said, okay, well you've been here for a couple

2307
02:15:45.079 --> 02:15:45.560
of days.

2308
02:15:46.039 --> 02:15:47.119
It's time for you to move on.

2309
02:15:47.279 --> 02:15:50.119
And then I asked my local clan if it's if

2310
02:15:50.159 --> 02:15:52.600
they're not you know, local here, can can you get

2311
02:15:52.640 --> 02:15:53.279
them out of here?

2312
02:15:53.760 --> 02:15:56.560
Big for society who will be right back after these messages?

2313
02:16:12.600 --> 02:16:15.159
I mean, so now I'm talking to the woods. My

2314
02:16:15.279 --> 02:16:16.479
mentality is a little different.

2315
02:16:18.680 --> 02:16:23.039
And twenty eighteen came around, some other things happened, so

2316
02:16:23.159 --> 02:16:25.520
now I'm some other things have happened to where I

2317
02:16:25.520 --> 02:16:29.439
am witnessing metaphysical things, okay, happening right in front of

2318
02:16:29.479 --> 02:16:29.960
my eyes.

2319
02:16:31.479 --> 02:16:34.680
We took a family picture at Christmas. My older son

2320
02:16:34.719 --> 02:16:38.680
brought his fiance over. She's the photographer. We were standing

2321
02:16:38.840 --> 02:16:42.399
in our road. We had our weapons. We were all

2322
02:16:42.440 --> 02:16:45.120
holding weapons. I mean, I wasn't. I hasn't had his

2323
02:16:45.559 --> 02:16:47.680
ar I don't know. My other son had a rifle,

2324
02:16:47.760 --> 02:16:51.479
and so did my daughter in law. We'll hit my

2325
02:16:51.520 --> 02:16:54.760
son's fiance and my other son is standing next to

2326
02:16:54.760 --> 02:16:58.639
me and he's got a rifle, and I'm we take

2327
02:16:58.639 --> 02:17:00.680
a picture to where she put out the camera and

2328
02:17:00.719 --> 02:17:02.600
then she set the timer and then it took a picture.

2329
02:17:03.479 --> 02:17:06.639
Well, sometime later, a friend of mine who I hardly

2330
02:17:06.680 --> 02:17:09.360
hear from, contacted me, and I knew she was one

2331
02:17:09.360 --> 02:17:10.319
of those woo people.

2332
02:17:10.920 --> 02:17:14.479
And she said, hey, there's something in the photos. I said,

2333
02:17:14.520 --> 02:17:17.040
what are you talking about? So she said blow it up?

2334
02:17:19.079 --> 02:17:21.200
So I blew up the photo and I saw something,

2335
02:17:21.200 --> 02:17:25.639
but it wasn't clear. And then I was like, you know,

2336
02:17:25.639 --> 02:17:27.639
I kind of thought, okay, it's like I was kind

2337
02:17:27.639 --> 02:17:30.120
of halfway open to it, but I wasn't totally. So

2338
02:17:30.200 --> 02:17:32.799
then you know, time went by and I would be

2339
02:17:32.840 --> 02:17:38.159
outside again. I've had people over, I've heard things. I

2340
02:17:38.200 --> 02:17:42.120
started taking photos and videos with my phone, and then

2341
02:17:42.399 --> 02:17:46.319
I started exploring more. And then I was opening up

2342
02:17:46.360 --> 02:17:52.440
my mind to the the possibility that there is something

2343
02:17:52.479 --> 02:17:57.360
more happening here. Because now I started praying out in

2344
02:17:57.399 --> 02:18:00.719
the woods, and I said, hey, to pray. Do you

2345
02:18:00.760 --> 02:18:03.360
guys want to pray with me? I mean, whoever is around.

2346
02:18:04.920 --> 02:18:09.440
That might sound crazy to you, but I.

2347
02:18:08.079 --> 02:18:11.159
Would walk my property many many times and pray. So

2348
02:18:16.200 --> 02:18:19.239
I started seeing things in photos. I don't know how

2349
02:18:19.239 --> 02:18:22.680
else to tell you. I was seeing beings in photos.

2350
02:18:22.799 --> 02:18:24.200
I've seen multiple beings.

2351
02:18:24.799 --> 02:18:27.399
And I opened up that photo again of us standing

2352
02:18:27.399 --> 02:18:29.879
in the road, and it looks like a National Geography

2353
02:18:30.000 --> 02:18:31.040
picture of my family there.

2354
02:18:31.040 --> 02:18:31.959
I'll send it over to you.

2355
02:18:32.719 --> 02:18:36.200
And I could see a freaking wolf like a dog

2356
02:18:36.280 --> 02:18:41.760
man's head above above my head, not a sasquatch, a

2357
02:18:41.799 --> 02:18:48.399
dog man, a dog man's head like in between changing

2358
02:18:49.280 --> 02:18:54.840
or she described it as this wolf being was changing

2359
02:18:55.920 --> 02:19:01.079
into I forgot how she put it into another dimension.

2360
02:19:02.399 --> 02:19:05.440
It was raising his vibration because they can do that,

2361
02:19:05.479 --> 02:19:06.479
and that's how they hide.

2362
02:19:06.479 --> 02:19:08.520
Now I'm learning all this. This is only to me.

2363
02:19:08.920 --> 02:19:10.360
All I know is I see it and I see

2364
02:19:10.399 --> 02:19:14.120
other things, and from that point on that was normal

2365
02:19:14.159 --> 02:19:17.440
for me. I did a complete one eighty, and once

2366
02:19:17.479 --> 02:19:20.440
I did that, things were wrapping up run in front

2367
02:19:20.479 --> 02:19:22.719
of my face. I would hear things walking up to

2368
02:19:22.760 --> 02:19:24.639
me and then there was nothing there, and I said, God,

2369
02:19:24.639 --> 02:19:25.079
would you just.

2370
02:19:25.079 --> 02:19:29.040
Show yourself already? So then I started putting up some

2371
02:19:29.040 --> 02:19:31.120
trail cams by our shop because there was break ins

2372
02:19:31.120 --> 02:19:33.520
of the place. And then I asked Iva I could

2373
02:19:33.520 --> 02:19:36.280
put the trail cam out in the woods, but I

2374
02:19:36.360 --> 02:19:37.840
kind of just put it up. I didn't ask them

2375
02:19:37.840 --> 02:19:40.360
if I could take their picture. So I put up

2376
02:19:40.360 --> 02:19:43.600
a trail cam and I got like ninety photos of nothing.

2377
02:19:43.840 --> 02:19:46.840
They would set off the camera, they would move the camera,

2378
02:19:47.399 --> 02:19:50.399
then it was knocked off the tree, and finally, duh,

2379
02:19:50.440 --> 02:19:53.879
like why didn't you get this, Cindy, I said, okay, okay, sorry,

2380
02:19:54.239 --> 02:19:57.040
I won't do this again. If I do, I'll ask you.

2381
02:19:57.639 --> 02:20:00.000
Because I did ask them if I could audio record them,

2382
02:20:00.079 --> 02:20:02.879
and I did get various audio recorders, and not all

2383
02:20:02.920 --> 02:20:04.920
the time did I get it, because there was things

2384
02:20:04.959 --> 02:20:07.879
off in the distance that I would get other sounds.

2385
02:20:08.159 --> 02:20:12.200
But for all the close proximity audio recordings, more than

2386
02:20:12.280 --> 02:20:16.799
likely I did ask. So after that I started really

2387
02:20:16.799 --> 02:20:19.840
exploring the possibilities of the unknown.

2388
02:20:20.239 --> 02:20:22.879
I started studying Ron Moorhead, who was a friend of

2389
02:20:22.879 --> 02:20:26.079
mine kind of at that time. You know, Arlow was

2390
02:20:26.120 --> 02:20:29.399
a friend of mine since Oklahoma, a lot of people

2391
02:20:29.440 --> 02:20:33.440
know Arla. I started talking to her, and then I

2392
02:20:33.479 --> 02:20:34.520
met Tob Johnson.

2393
02:20:35.159 --> 02:20:37.079
I did a show with Tob. He holped me up

2394
02:20:37.120 --> 02:20:37.799
with Frizetromo.

2395
02:20:38.520 --> 02:20:41.479
Rich Stromo talked to me for hours on a Facebook Messenger,

2396
02:20:42.000 --> 02:20:45.000
and a lot of things were just like started falling

2397
02:20:45.040 --> 02:20:50.879
into place. Twenty twenty one, my husband had to we retired.

2398
02:20:50.920 --> 02:20:53.360
We went out of town. My older son, now I

2399
02:20:53.399 --> 02:20:56.040
mean my younger son, stayed at our property so we

2400
02:20:56.079 --> 02:20:59.680
could go back to my property in East Texas where

2401
02:20:59.719 --> 02:21:03.559
we are starting to snowbird now every winter. So the

2402
02:21:03.600 --> 02:21:07.000
winter of twenty twenty one to twenty twenty two, I

2403
02:21:07.120 --> 02:21:10.760
formed a team, so a saft squash Sisters Northwest was born.

2404
02:21:12.399 --> 02:21:20.159
So the thing that completely changed my mind was sometime

2405
02:21:20.399 --> 02:21:22.399
in twenty twenty year twenty twenty one.

2406
02:21:22.479 --> 02:21:23.879
I don't know what year it was, maybe it was

2407
02:21:23.879 --> 02:21:28.239
twenty nineteen. I have it written down because I'm riding

2408
02:21:28.280 --> 02:21:33.559
a book. So I was out in my front yard

2409
02:21:33.639 --> 02:21:35.680
and there's this tree that the moods like to eat,

2410
02:21:35.719 --> 02:21:37.959
and it was I was looking at the trampoline because

2411
02:21:38.360 --> 02:21:40.399
I was thinking I need to take this trampoline down,

2412
02:21:40.440 --> 02:21:42.760
but I was too lazy because it was kind of old,

2413
02:21:43.360 --> 02:21:43.840
and I.

2414
02:21:43.760 --> 02:21:46.360
Was like, oh, I'm just gonna I'm on, I'm just

2415
02:21:46.399 --> 02:21:48.920
gonna leave it up. Well, I noticed my job walking

2416
02:21:48.959 --> 02:21:52.239
through this bush, and I felt your presence. I felt

2417
02:21:52.239 --> 02:21:55.319
a signature. So a lot of the times when I'm

2418
02:21:55.360 --> 02:21:59.520
talking to people, I will say I developed good feelings

2419
02:21:59.600 --> 02:22:03.120
for when the female. So the female that you heard cooing,

2420
02:22:03.239 --> 02:22:05.600
I named Yaquila. She's come around a couple of times.

2421
02:22:06.639 --> 02:22:07.200
I did have a.

2422
02:22:07.239 --> 02:22:11.399
Visual of her one night, and it was I don't

2423
02:22:11.440 --> 02:22:14.040
know what year it was, maybe twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen.

2424
02:22:15.079 --> 02:22:16.639
I would have to go back and look at my notes.

2425
02:22:18.120 --> 02:22:20.079
We have an area called the pet Cemetery. I had

2426
02:22:20.120 --> 02:22:24.200
a dog that died and I was out there late

2427
02:22:24.239 --> 02:22:26.440
one night. We had just buried her. I was really

2428
02:22:26.479 --> 02:22:32.520
sad and she had I could feel her com basically,

2429
02:22:32.600 --> 02:22:34.120
I don't know how else to describe it to you.

2430
02:22:34.879 --> 02:22:37.000
I looked up and there she was. It was dark,

2431
02:22:37.040 --> 02:22:38.680
but she popped out from behind the tree.

2432
02:22:38.680 --> 02:22:41.879
I mean, not popped out, but she kind of came

2433
02:22:41.920 --> 02:22:45.200
out and I could see the outline of her of

2434
02:22:45.239 --> 02:22:48.000
her body. So I don't know what color she was

2435
02:22:48.120 --> 02:22:52.360
or how tallersh she was, but she was maybe, I

2436
02:22:52.360 --> 02:22:56.879
don't know, seven half feet. But her eyes were this

2437
02:22:57.120 --> 02:23:02.200
red orange and they emanated brighter and then less and

2438
02:23:02.360 --> 02:23:05.040
brighter and less. And let me tell you what, the

2439
02:23:05.079 --> 02:23:08.559
feeling that I was getting from her was not anything scary.

2440
02:23:09.200 --> 02:23:13.200
She knew I was sad, and I was like, it's you.

2441
02:23:14.399 --> 02:23:17.559
And then she turned around and she was gone. Now,

2442
02:23:17.559 --> 02:23:18.559
of course it's nighttime.

2443
02:23:19.680 --> 02:23:23.280
I can't say she disappeared into thin air because she's

2444
02:23:23.360 --> 02:23:25.280
at the back of the woods.

2445
02:23:25.680 --> 02:23:28.360
But I know what I saw and I know I

2446
02:23:28.479 --> 02:23:32.680
know it was her. After that, I thought, it's a

2447
02:23:32.719 --> 02:23:36.000
little bit better. And so now my life is completely different.

2448
02:23:36.440 --> 02:23:40.440
They're coming around credit that I'm hearing all kinds of things. Now,

2449
02:23:40.559 --> 02:23:43.920
I've had people over, we've had fires, We've heard things,

2450
02:23:44.159 --> 02:23:45.520
and then the other person didn't.

2451
02:23:45.760 --> 02:23:50.280
So there could be like my husband has never seen anything.

2452
02:23:50.280 --> 02:23:53.239
My husband has heard things, but he is not there.

2453
02:23:53.360 --> 02:23:56.959
So with that mentality, which I called, I hate to

2454
02:23:56.959 --> 02:23:59.879
stay closed minded, but because it's not his thing, he's

2455
02:24:00.079 --> 02:24:02.319
not going to have these encounters. Okay, You're not going

2456
02:24:02.399 --> 02:24:04.000
to have these kind of encounters if you if you're

2457
02:24:04.000 --> 02:24:06.600
going to have that way of thinking, okay, And that's

2458
02:24:06.600 --> 02:24:09.680
okay because it's not meant for everyone. And I don't

2459
02:24:09.840 --> 02:24:12.159
expect anyone to believe me because I used to make

2460
02:24:12.159 --> 02:24:13.719
fun of the Woo people. I used to make fun

2461
02:24:13.760 --> 02:24:17.159
of people like Garlia, people like Tom, and now they

2462
02:24:17.200 --> 02:24:19.719
are very very good friends, very good friends of mine

2463
02:24:19.920 --> 02:24:21.079
that I swear by them.

2464
02:24:21.159 --> 02:24:25.040
Are you talking about Tom Control? Yes, I just interviewed

2465
02:24:25.079 --> 02:24:26.879
him yesterday afternoon. That's wild.

2466
02:24:27.159 --> 02:24:30.479
Yeah, okay, he's on my book. So my dog is

2467
02:24:31.000 --> 02:24:34.959
going through this tree and I got my my my phone,

2468
02:24:35.040 --> 02:24:37.719
I started videoing and I could see through my phone,

2469
02:24:37.760 --> 02:24:41.799
I saw a stask Watch interment. I mean right there.

2470
02:24:42.799 --> 02:24:44.719
I could see the back of him and I say

2471
02:24:44.719 --> 02:24:48.280
he because that was the energy I got. No, I

2472
02:24:48.319 --> 02:24:51.159
didn't see any parts that would indicate he was a male.

2473
02:24:51.559 --> 02:24:53.120
I just saw the back of him and he was

2474
02:24:53.159 --> 02:24:57.479
sitting down. And the feeling that I got was opportunistic.

2475
02:24:58.719 --> 02:25:01.719
Amazingly that I could we had that opportunity. It was

2476
02:25:01.760 --> 02:25:03.840
like the final clarification and I went.

2477
02:25:05.200 --> 02:25:09.360
You, it's you not that I knew him, but I didn't.

2478
02:25:09.399 --> 02:25:11.959
I was like, oh my gosh. I put my phone

2479
02:25:11.959 --> 02:25:14.639
down and my dogs started walking to the house and

2480
02:25:14.719 --> 02:25:18.079
she was fine, and I put the phone up again,

2481
02:25:18.280 --> 02:25:21.200
and I moved just a little bit and I could

2482
02:25:21.200 --> 02:25:23.799
see the side of him and it looked like he

2483
02:25:23.840 --> 02:25:26.280
was doing on something. Then he got up and walked

2484
02:25:26.280 --> 02:25:33.120
off like predature movie, looking like something. At that I

2485
02:25:33.159 --> 02:25:35.879
went into the house. So after that, this is all

2486
02:25:35.920 --> 02:25:38.399
normal for me. I formed a team in twenty twenty two.

2487
02:25:38.959 --> 02:25:40.840
That summer, my team was on my property.

2488
02:25:41.639 --> 02:25:46.920
We were doing some sound bowls, some cleaning up the

2489
02:25:47.000 --> 02:25:51.840
land to raise air vibration, to which we discovered there

2490
02:25:51.879 --> 02:25:54.280
was a ton of things that were tied to me

2491
02:25:54.319 --> 02:25:59.520
and to my family, spirits, Indian spirits that were.

2492
02:26:01.840 --> 02:26:05.239
We did some kind of ceremony. I didn't, but some

2493
02:26:05.319 --> 02:26:08.319
people that were on my team at that time did.

2494
02:26:10.239 --> 02:26:13.600
Then later that day that evening, we were smudging each

2495
02:26:13.600 --> 02:26:17.719
other and one of the gals I was walking said

2496
02:26:17.760 --> 02:26:19.159
there was two portals there.

2497
02:26:19.319 --> 02:26:21.680
She did it. I couldn't tell you that the method

2498
02:26:22.239 --> 02:26:24.040
she told me, but I had seen many lights from

2499
02:26:24.040 --> 02:26:26.520
that area, and that's another thing I've seen orbs I've

2500
02:26:26.520 --> 02:26:29.719
seen lights in the woods and then we saw two

2501
02:26:30.159 --> 02:26:34.159
sasquatches pop their heads out. I would call like a

2502
02:26:34.200 --> 02:26:37.280
tree peaker, and I turned around. I didn't see at first.

2503
02:26:37.280 --> 02:26:38.120
One of my partners did.

2504
02:26:38.159 --> 02:26:42.159
I said, oh my gosh, and I said, can I

2505
02:26:42.159 --> 02:26:43.879
take you a picture? I know I saw like a

2506
02:26:43.879 --> 02:26:48.200
crazy person, and I started flicking away the feeling that

2507
02:26:48.319 --> 02:26:48.799
I had.

2508
02:26:49.000 --> 02:26:51.760
I can't even describe it to you, but it was fine.

2509
02:26:51.799 --> 02:26:55.319
It was clean, and it was fine. They had our trust,

2510
02:26:55.479 --> 02:26:58.280
they knew we respected them. I didn't see him as

2511
02:26:58.280 --> 02:27:01.120
the beast. I saw them as a person, as their

2512
02:27:01.200 --> 02:27:03.799
own race, as someone smarter and.

2513
02:27:03.719 --> 02:27:08.639
Brighter than us. I saw them as part part human.

2514
02:27:09.719 --> 02:27:12.399
I do support Melbolle Kitchen's work. I know a lot

2515
02:27:12.399 --> 02:27:15.559
of people don't, but I do so to me in

2516
02:27:15.600 --> 02:27:17.680
my mind, that explained it to me a little bit.

2517
02:27:19.239 --> 02:27:20.959
We went up on the mountain and we did some

2518
02:27:21.079 --> 02:27:27.719
clearing there, came back down, and I mean, it's just

2519
02:27:29.799 --> 02:27:35.000
been really crazy and I In twenty twenty two, we

2520
02:27:35.040 --> 02:27:36.319
went to Phenomicon.

2521
02:27:36.399 --> 02:27:39.239
Me and your friend went to Phenomicon. Because I'm like,

2522
02:27:39.280 --> 02:27:42.280
I'm here in Utah right now. We came down here.

2523
02:27:42.360 --> 02:27:44.639
I was gifted some tickets actually from one of my

2524
02:27:44.920 --> 02:27:48.799
friends who couldn't make it, so last minute, we came

2525
02:27:48.840 --> 02:27:52.159
down here, stayed at my mom's house in by American Fork,

2526
02:27:52.959 --> 02:27:54.559
and we stayed here for a couple of days, and

2527
02:27:54.600 --> 02:27:58.079
then I drove to Vernal or Vernal I never say

2528
02:27:58.079 --> 02:28:01.760
it right, Yutah to the conference and I was going

2529
02:28:01.840 --> 02:28:05.120
to go look for some friends like Adam Davies and

2530
02:28:05.319 --> 02:28:10.280
you know what's his face, Russell Accord, some of Skinwalker people,

2531
02:28:11.079 --> 02:28:12.600
a skin Skinwalker ranch.

2532
02:28:14.399 --> 02:28:20.680
And my friend wanted to go talk to these psychic people,

2533
02:28:20.719 --> 02:28:24.280
which I wasn't there for that. So I turned my

2534
02:28:24.399 --> 02:28:26.879
head and I'm trying to call to add I'm waving

2535
02:28:26.920 --> 02:28:29.040
at Adam Davies. He had this T shirt or something.

2536
02:28:29.520 --> 02:28:31.799
And then I look at this lady. There's a lady

2537
02:28:31.799 --> 02:28:36.559
by the name of Rebecca for Rebecca Frost. Oh shoot,

2538
02:28:36.719 --> 02:28:39.959
am I seeing her name wrong? Anyway? This lady looks

2539
02:28:40.000 --> 02:28:42.879
at me, and there's people standing around. There's some friends

2540
02:28:42.879 --> 02:28:45.079
of mine standing by her, and there's a Lakota elder

2541
02:28:45.120 --> 02:28:47.440
also standing on the other side of him that I met.

2542
02:28:47.440 --> 02:28:51.120
Eventually, well, she goes, I can see your sasquatches. She's

2543
02:28:51.120 --> 02:28:53.040
telling me this across the breaking room.

2544
02:28:53.399 --> 02:28:58.200
Yes way now all the way down. I started crying

2545
02:28:59.360 --> 02:29:03.479
because my mal and mute was sick. I knew something

2546
02:29:03.639 --> 02:29:06.920
was wrong. And I was talking to my friend and

2547
02:29:07.399 --> 02:29:10.280
she said, hey, do you have a white dog? A

2548
02:29:10.280 --> 02:29:12.239
wolf dog? And I looked. I walked up to her.

2549
02:29:12.239 --> 02:29:14.559
I said, is this some kind of joke. She put

2550
02:29:14.600 --> 02:29:16.520
her hand out and she said hi, I am Rebecca

2551
02:29:16.639 --> 02:29:22.520
Frost and I was like okay. I said, yes, I

2552
02:29:22.559 --> 02:29:28.600
have a dog. She's old now. And then she said, okay, well,

2553
02:29:28.799 --> 02:29:32.000
your sasquatches are telling me that she's sick and they're

2554
02:29:32.000 --> 02:29:34.319
saying it's cancer and you need to take her to

2555
02:29:33.959 --> 02:29:38.360
the vet. And everybody's jaw drops. My friend's jaw drops,

2556
02:29:38.399 --> 02:29:42.200
my other friend's jaw drops because she knows about my dog.

2557
02:29:43.120 --> 02:29:46.879
And I was like, no way. So she gets a

2558
02:29:46.920 --> 02:29:50.120
little emotional and I get emotional and I said, okay,

2559
02:29:50.200 --> 02:29:53.040
I'll take her to the vet. And she said, there's

2560
02:29:53.079 --> 02:29:55.319
this stuff on your property that has an arm sticking out.

2561
02:29:55.520 --> 02:30:00.079
They want maple syrup and they want sweets. What And

2562
02:30:01.840 --> 02:30:06.920
she's yeah, And I said, oh my god, okay, And so.

2563
02:30:06.959 --> 02:30:10.799
Now I know it's not a joke. And my friend

2564
02:30:10.799 --> 02:30:14.399
recorded this. I do have one of the videos she.

2565
02:30:14.399 --> 02:30:16.680
Recorded it and then I pull I open up my

2566
02:30:16.680 --> 02:30:19.520
phone and I show her star and I'm trying really

2567
02:30:19.559 --> 02:30:23.760
hard not to cry, and she goes, look there's that

2568
02:30:23.799 --> 02:30:26.120
little thing flying around. That's a fury. I'm like, what,

2569
02:30:26.440 --> 02:30:29.280
I bought it to fairies? Look what she goes, that's

2570
02:30:29.280 --> 02:30:32.159
a fury. Well I didn't see it, but she was

2571
02:30:32.159 --> 02:30:34.760
showing these other people that were passing my phone around.

2572
02:30:35.159 --> 02:30:37.920
And then I walked away, and that whole weekend was

2573
02:30:37.959 --> 02:30:39.799
just like weird. It was magical, it was just it

2574
02:30:39.840 --> 02:30:42.360
was weird. I came home, I took a star to that.

2575
02:30:43.159 --> 02:30:45.120
It was confirmed she had cancer and she had a

2576
02:30:45.280 --> 02:30:45.920
enlarged heart.

2577
02:30:46.520 --> 02:30:48.200
Big for society will be right back.

2578
02:30:48.239 --> 02:31:07.399
After these messages, they put her on medicine and water

2579
02:31:07.520 --> 02:31:10.040
pills and she died in my arms four months later,

2580
02:31:10.319 --> 02:31:15.120
February twenty twenty three. She died. A week later, my

2581
02:31:15.239 --> 02:31:20.760
dad died and I was could not start crying for

2582
02:31:20.920 --> 02:31:23.479
my dog. My father. I had a hard time, me

2583
02:31:23.520 --> 02:31:26.520
and him had a hard time. I had a hard relationship.

2584
02:31:26.319 --> 02:31:30.920
And I just couldn't cry rough it didn't it was

2585
02:31:30.959 --> 02:31:34.959
too much. And I had a photo of there's a

2586
02:31:35.040 --> 02:31:37.799
juvenile sasquatch that I did not know was her friend.

2587
02:31:37.959 --> 02:31:40.520
It was coming around. I have two photos of an

2588
02:31:40.840 --> 02:31:44.239
interdimensional sasquatch, and both of these photos I had many

2589
02:31:44.280 --> 02:31:47.239
photos where they appear like that. I have photos in

2590
02:31:47.280 --> 02:31:49.719
two thousand and seven where I wasn't even in that

2591
02:31:49.799 --> 02:31:50.680
mentality mode.

2592
02:31:51.040 --> 02:31:53.319
But now I can see years years later, I can

2593
02:31:53.319 --> 02:31:56.040
see these same photos, and I can see where there's

2594
02:31:56.200 --> 02:32:00.879
these mama sasquatches are sitting in the reed by the

2595
02:32:00.959 --> 02:32:04.159
priest rever and one has got a baby in her arms.

2596
02:32:04.840 --> 02:32:07.319
Many people have seen this photo and the only reason

2597
02:32:07.399 --> 02:32:09.879
I can see it is because I have accepted the

2598
02:32:09.879 --> 02:32:12.799
fact that there's more to this than that them just

2599
02:32:12.840 --> 02:32:13.760
being fleshed and blood.

2600
02:32:13.920 --> 02:32:16.280
And I mean, you can call me crazy, you can

2601
02:32:16.319 --> 02:32:18.440
lock me up. I don't care. This is my life,

2602
02:32:18.479 --> 02:32:21.079
this is where I have lived. And I realize now

2603
02:32:21.159 --> 02:32:25.760
that she taught me, they want you to speak for them.

2604
02:32:27.399 --> 02:32:29.760
This is going to be like, this is what you

2605
02:32:29.879 --> 02:32:34.559
need to do. So I spent twenty twenty three. My

2606
02:32:34.680 --> 02:32:39.360
team kind of fazled out, which was fine because of

2607
02:32:39.399 --> 02:32:41.520
this thing. But the ability of the pictures, which we

2608
02:32:41.600 --> 02:32:44.319
do believe that you once you take a photo of

2609
02:32:44.360 --> 02:32:49.200
a sasquatch, thelready know what you're thinking. And any photo

2610
02:32:49.239 --> 02:32:52.680
can change. A photo will never stay the same. It

2611
02:32:52.719 --> 02:32:56.680
can change. They can even be gone from the photo.

2612
02:32:56.799 --> 02:32:59.639
And you ask anyone like Tom, and I'm pretty sure

2613
02:32:59.639 --> 02:33:05.559
who will also agree with you. So so I had

2614
02:33:05.559 --> 02:33:07.239
a team for a little bit, but then it kind

2615
02:33:07.239 --> 02:33:11.479
of feelsled out, and then well I started snowbirding, and

2616
02:33:11.520 --> 02:33:14.200
then all these other things were happening. Other doors were

2617
02:33:14.239 --> 02:33:16.639
opening up for me, and a lot of people were

2618
02:33:16.639 --> 02:33:18.520
reaching out to me. And so now that's what I'm doing,

2619
02:33:18.559 --> 02:33:20.479
That's what I feel like. My job is I speak

2620
02:33:20.520 --> 02:33:25.200
for the forest people. We researched through respect. I don't

2621
02:33:25.200 --> 02:33:25.879
always do that.

2622
02:33:26.879 --> 02:33:30.600
There's an area that we found these massive structures not

2623
02:33:30.680 --> 02:33:32.239
too far down the road from where I live.

2624
02:33:32.959 --> 02:33:35.719
I'm studying that right now. I've got some photos I

2625
02:33:35.760 --> 02:33:39.159
can send you. They're really crazy. We walked into one

2626
02:33:39.200 --> 02:33:42.040
of their we call at the Long House. We walked

2627
02:33:42.079 --> 02:33:44.920
into I mean we climbed into the structure, didn't ask,

2628
02:33:45.520 --> 02:33:47.319
so we were hit up. I was sick for like

2629
02:33:47.360 --> 02:33:49.680
a week and a half. My partner was sick, like

2630
02:33:49.799 --> 02:33:53.680
having vertigo twenty four seven, throwing up. I could I

2631
02:33:53.680 --> 02:33:56.319
could barely walk. I had to We had to speak

2632
02:33:56.399 --> 02:33:59.280
at watch Southeast.

2633
02:33:58.840 --> 02:34:02.760
Washington event up there, and thank god, we were feeling

2634
02:34:02.760 --> 02:34:07.360
better at that time. So my life is completely different

2635
02:34:07.399 --> 02:34:10.639
how I see these beings now. Are there some aggressive

2636
02:34:10.639 --> 02:34:11.200
ones out there?

2637
02:34:11.319 --> 02:34:14.079
Yes? I have gotten reports of where I live. There's

2638
02:34:14.120 --> 02:34:16.200
a aggressive one up at Peace Lake.

2639
02:34:17.239 --> 02:34:20.559
Now the bad thing about this whole thing is that

2640
02:34:20.799 --> 02:34:23.719
I've lost a lot of friends because I took a

2641
02:34:23.719 --> 02:34:27.680
photo of a report that I got, and I met

2642
02:34:27.719 --> 02:34:30.360
the lady and I walked up to this teepee hut

2643
02:34:31.120 --> 02:34:35.319
and the hut this teepee hat human components too it,

2644
02:34:35.360 --> 02:34:40.159
but it also was inter It was also woven together

2645
02:34:40.760 --> 02:34:42.719
with intricate components as well.

2646
02:34:43.280 --> 02:34:45.479
So I looked at the lady. She said, I just

2647
02:34:45.520 --> 02:34:47.840
found this thing out here. She got my number. I

2648
02:34:47.920 --> 02:34:51.360
met her. I took like two photos of the structure.

2649
02:34:51.680 --> 02:34:54.000
She had a dog, and I felt like it was

2650
02:34:54.040 --> 02:34:56.239
time to go. I said, it's time to go again.

2651
02:34:56.280 --> 02:34:59.079
I always watched the animals. Her dogs seem fine. We

2652
02:34:59.120 --> 02:35:01.799
walked out of there. Well, I think I put it

2653
02:35:01.879 --> 02:35:06.360
on one of the local boards and the photo changed. Okay,

2654
02:35:06.719 --> 02:35:11.399
down the road, I put the photo of the picture

2655
02:35:11.440 --> 02:35:14.799
out there, and I think I took it down. I

2656
02:35:14.879 --> 02:35:19.479
deleted it and then years later, the same photo popped up,

2657
02:35:21.559 --> 02:35:25.200
but it had a SaaS cratch coming out of a tree. Okay,

2658
02:35:25.719 --> 02:35:29.840
and it's Some people think it looks real. Some people

2659
02:35:29.879 --> 02:35:34.600
think it looks like a yard art. But I've gotten

2660
02:35:34.600 --> 02:35:37.879
different answers from people who were trying to feel it out.

2661
02:35:38.079 --> 02:35:41.760
And some people say it's the real deal because they

2662
02:35:41.760 --> 02:35:44.479
are alive in the trees, that the trees are energy.

2663
02:35:45.079 --> 02:35:50.680
Everything is energy, everything is frequency.

2664
02:35:51.399 --> 02:35:55.920
The higher you raise your vibration, the more clearer things are,

2665
02:35:56.680 --> 02:35:59.920
the more afraid you are, the more so they do

2666
02:36:00.079 --> 02:36:03.799
have that capability. They know how to do that. Ron

2667
02:36:03.879 --> 02:36:07.920
Moorehead explains it in his book. In fact, I write

2668
02:36:07.959 --> 02:36:12.520
about him in my book. I've interviewed him. I interviewed

2669
02:36:12.600 --> 02:36:15.760
Tom Kratroll. My book is almost done, hopefully this while

2670
02:36:15.799 --> 02:36:18.280
I can be done with it, and I've taken a

2671
02:36:18.319 --> 02:36:21.200
couple of months off. But I write about my journey

2672
02:36:21.280 --> 02:36:23.319
in my book because I feel like that's my job.

2673
02:36:23.719 --> 02:36:27.159
And yes, that picture. I made the mistake of putting

2674
02:36:27.200 --> 02:36:31.000
it on Facebook, but I did put in the comments.

2675
02:36:31.120 --> 02:36:36.120
I described very intricately what happened, and I was very

2676
02:36:36.159 --> 02:36:39.959
specific when I said I don't know what this photo changed.

2677
02:36:40.600 --> 02:36:45.399
I even asked if they could use my photo in

2678
02:36:46.159 --> 02:36:56.520
the video of the Breton Jill, that amazing documentary that

2679
02:36:56.520 --> 02:36:59.680
they did a plage of beauty, Yeah, the second one.

2680
02:37:00.479 --> 02:37:04.520
And so now people were talking about me, saying, you know,

2681
02:37:04.719 --> 02:37:07.719
she's a liar and a hoaxer. And even my own

2682
02:37:07.799 --> 02:37:11.159
similar team that I researched with got pretty distant, you know,

2683
02:37:11.200 --> 02:37:14.639
which is fine. I mean, you know, it does seem

2684
02:37:14.680 --> 02:37:15.360
a little crazy.

2685
02:37:16.719 --> 02:37:20.200
And you know, like I said, my father had been

2686
02:37:20.239 --> 02:37:21.559
diagnosed with cancer.

2687
02:37:21.680 --> 02:37:23.639
We no, I didn't tell you that my father died

2688
02:37:23.639 --> 02:37:27.159
from cancer. So twenty twenty two, twenty twenty three was

2689
02:37:29.000 --> 02:37:32.360
really I just I've grown a lot. I have done

2690
02:37:32.360 --> 02:37:36.200
a lot of seeking for answers, and that is what

2691
02:37:36.239 --> 02:37:36.959
my job is.

2692
02:37:37.079 --> 02:37:39.959
My journey has only begun to come to the next level.

2693
02:37:40.399 --> 02:37:43.159
But because I start, I live in Texas now half

2694
02:37:43.159 --> 02:37:43.479
the year.

2695
02:37:44.040 --> 02:37:50.639
So this last December I walked out into the back property.

2696
02:37:50.680 --> 02:37:52.799
So I basically moved back to where I used to

2697
02:37:52.799 --> 02:37:55.600
live before I moved to North Idaho. My kids are grown.

2698
02:37:55.680 --> 02:37:57.840
My older son lives in Spokane, he's married. I have

2699
02:37:57.879 --> 02:38:01.000
a granddaughter. My younger son has a a girlfriend, and

2700
02:38:01.639 --> 02:38:04.319
ever since twenty twenty one, he lives in the house.

2701
02:38:04.360 --> 02:38:07.959
We have a big toy holler. My husband has a Harley.

2702
02:38:08.200 --> 02:38:11.159
We take our toys down and we've hit the road,

2703
02:38:11.520 --> 02:38:15.680
and so that is what we're doing now. This last year,

2704
02:38:15.920 --> 02:38:19.040
when we got down to the ranch in East Texas,

2705
02:38:19.200 --> 02:38:21.239
or our property, it's not really ransteamware because they don't

2706
02:38:21.239 --> 02:38:25.479
have courses or anything. I walked out to the second

2707
02:38:25.520 --> 02:38:28.399
fence where our property ends because I felt like I

2708
02:38:28.479 --> 02:38:31.920
was called out there. You know, I felt something, and

2709
02:38:32.159 --> 02:38:35.959
I just do what I feel, and I started filming.

2710
02:38:36.239 --> 02:38:39.639
Now I have a rescue dog, and then I saw

2711
02:38:39.680 --> 02:38:40.360
her back there.

2712
02:38:40.479 --> 02:38:43.399
I thought, would the dog get back here? I didn't

2713
02:38:43.440 --> 02:38:46.399
realize she had got out and she wanted to. She

2714
02:38:46.520 --> 02:38:50.360
was basically taken off, and then something scared her by

2715
02:38:50.559 --> 02:38:55.399
the back pasture where there was still a shed where

2716
02:38:55.399 --> 02:38:58.399
we used to keep some of our saddles and stuff.

2717
02:38:59.079 --> 02:39:03.360
She jerked her head over, and I knew she was

2718
02:39:03.399 --> 02:39:05.920
picking up on something. So I was calling her back,

2719
02:39:06.319 --> 02:39:09.399
and I opened up the fence and I said, gish

2720
02:39:09.479 --> 02:39:14.399
off here, and then I started filming and taking pictures,

2721
02:39:14.600 --> 02:39:17.399
and sure enough, later some of my colleagues showed me

2722
02:39:18.120 --> 02:39:21.399
many peeking out from behind the shed and in the

2723
02:39:21.440 --> 02:39:24.920
tree line, and I think that they chased her back

2724
02:39:24.959 --> 02:39:27.799
to me because she is a runner. I mean now

2725
02:39:27.840 --> 02:39:31.239
she isn't and I still have her. I never intended

2726
02:39:31.280 --> 02:39:32.000
to keep her.

2727
02:39:31.840 --> 02:39:38.520
But so Star died back in twenty twenty three, and

2728
02:39:38.600 --> 02:39:41.559
then we have another dog, and then Daisy.

2729
02:39:42.079 --> 02:39:46.079
I got this dog in December. So now the Texas

2730
02:39:46.159 --> 02:39:49.520
client has come back or whoever they are, So that

2731
02:39:49.719 --> 02:39:52.399
is what I'm going to start researching. Now the next level,

2732
02:39:52.440 --> 02:39:56.200
I'm going to start really communicating with them. I'm gonna

2733
02:39:57.639 --> 02:40:00.840
We left Texas in May. I got back up to

2734
02:40:00.959 --> 02:40:02.120
our North Idaho.

2735
02:40:01.840 --> 02:40:05.840
Ranch and I was gone to Forks because I was

2736
02:40:05.879 --> 02:40:08.000
going to speak there and I wanted to meet Rich

2737
02:40:08.079 --> 02:40:12.920
Dermo in person. Amazing human being and like I said,

2738
02:40:12.920 --> 02:40:14.479
Tob Johnson and mere friends.

2739
02:40:14.159 --> 02:40:17.479
And I completely backed that guy, how to Hunt guy.

2740
02:40:17.559 --> 02:40:18.639
That Steve is dog guy.

2741
02:40:20.440 --> 02:40:23.280
And he's even been told of some of my crazy

2742
02:40:23.280 --> 02:40:27.120
stuff that's happened. And then I went to another event, the.

2743
02:40:27.200 --> 02:40:31.879
Family Sasquatch, the Sasquatch Family Reunion that Kelly scrolled. Kelly

2744
02:40:31.879 --> 02:40:34.799
and Kettle Falls heard and her husband do this event

2745
02:40:34.840 --> 02:40:37.920
and it's it's amazing. We do a lot of things.

2746
02:40:38.120 --> 02:40:43.399
The work for the people for the the not just

2747
02:40:43.440 --> 02:40:48.360
the Sasquatch, the the ets, every you know, everything that's

2748
02:40:48.399 --> 02:40:50.280
involved with a collective.

2749
02:40:50.319 --> 02:40:50.479
You know.

2750
02:40:50.520 --> 02:40:52.760
Look, I'm not I'm still learning about all that, like

2751
02:40:52.840 --> 02:40:57.600
that collective. Whatever. I do know that they do, Like

2752
02:40:57.719 --> 02:41:02.239
Mike Bodowitz has written a book about the Elder Council

2753
02:41:02.760 --> 02:41:06.280
of thirteen. He just put out a book.

2754
02:41:06.319 --> 02:41:08.239
I don't know if people might want to go read it.

2755
02:41:08.239 --> 02:41:10.920
It's called Book of Elders. You can get it on Amazon.

2756
02:41:11.000 --> 02:41:13.120
That's going to answer a lot of questions if people

2757
02:41:13.120 --> 02:41:14.319
are really wanted to know answers.

2758
02:41:14.760 --> 02:41:20.799
Read his book, by Arla's book, and I think you

2759
02:41:20.840 --> 02:41:24.120
can get it on Amazon. By Tom Controll's books. Do

2760
02:41:24.280 --> 02:41:27.440
searches on Amazon buy their books.

2761
02:41:27.840 --> 02:41:30.440
The Ghost of Ruby Bridge, I think, is one of

2762
02:41:30.479 --> 02:41:33.040
the titles of Tom Cantrall's book, and he writes about

2763
02:41:33.200 --> 02:41:35.719
what really happened to Patty the Patti film or something.

2764
02:41:36.879 --> 02:41:38.879
I've read parts of it, but I don't remember the

2765
02:41:38.879 --> 02:41:42.239
whole book. That these are people that you should anyone

2766
02:41:42.399 --> 02:41:45.319
should listen to. In fact, I'm building up a library

2767
02:41:45.719 --> 02:41:48.879
for the future generations to reference back to. And so

2768
02:41:49.040 --> 02:41:51.799
the first book I'm writing is and I'm not done

2769
02:41:52.280 --> 02:41:55.799
It's about what's happened to me. And then I was done,

2770
02:41:55.840 --> 02:41:58.280
but now all these things keep happening to me. I

2771
02:41:58.600 --> 02:42:01.120
was up parent that you went to mountain, and I

2772
02:42:01.200 --> 02:42:03.319
was me and a friend. We're hiking to Stuart Falls,

2773
02:42:03.920 --> 02:42:06.360
and I just I was hearing things and she was

2774
02:42:06.360 --> 02:42:09.680
hearing things. But this is a heavily trafficked area, so

2775
02:42:10.000 --> 02:42:12.000
I mean, who knows what's going on? Like, I can

2776
02:42:12.000 --> 02:42:14.399
only do so much. So I'm going to get back

2777
02:42:14.879 --> 02:42:18.360
hopefully Saturday. I'll be home from here until October. I

2778
02:42:18.399 --> 02:42:22.159
will be doing live deos on my page. My intention

2779
02:42:22.559 --> 02:42:28.440
is to have continuous study and interaction with my clan.

2780
02:42:28.959 --> 02:42:31.680
And there's another group out there called Legacy Discovery. They

2781
02:42:31.719 --> 02:42:34.079
have a YouTube page. You should look them up. It's

2782
02:42:34.079 --> 02:42:38.159
called Legacy Discoveries. My friend that I researched with, she

2783
02:42:38.840 --> 02:42:43.719
is amazing. She is Lakota they I mean, and she

2784
02:42:43.840 --> 02:42:47.959
also lived there where I lived. In fact, you should

2785
02:42:48.879 --> 02:42:53.399
call them up and I'll give you their names. Angelique

2786
02:42:53.399 --> 02:42:55.680
Benham and her son Mitch. They have a team and

2787
02:42:55.760 --> 02:42:58.680
they they also lived and they you know, we've done

2788
02:42:58.680 --> 02:43:03.479
some work together and you, I mean, he is doing

2789
02:43:03.520 --> 02:43:07.600
some heavy, extensive work and it's all in order and

2790
02:43:07.920 --> 02:43:12.479
it's just amazing. So people can also go look up

2791
02:43:12.600 --> 02:43:16.079
Legacy Discoveries on YouTube to get more answers. And so

2792
02:43:17.079 --> 02:43:20.280
these are people that the Sasquatch people are trying to

2793
02:43:20.280 --> 02:43:22.000
reach out to you, and not just the Sasquatch, just

2794
02:43:22.040 --> 02:43:24.920
other things out there, because we are living in the

2795
02:43:24.959 --> 02:43:28.680
times now where the Earth, the Earth has decided to

2796
02:43:30.719 --> 02:43:35.520
raise her vibration, like she's done. Everything that jogs is

2797
02:43:35.559 --> 02:43:37.760
going to come to light. I don't care who makes

2798
02:43:37.760 --> 02:43:41.040
fun of me anymore, because we're here to tell a tale.

2799
02:43:42.120 --> 02:43:45.319
I'm a light worker. I'm here to be a voice

2800
02:43:45.319 --> 02:43:49.719
for the Sasquatch people. I had these encounters, I believe

2801
02:43:49.760 --> 02:43:52.719
in East Texas because I started out that way and

2802
02:43:52.760 --> 02:43:54.639
then I moved up to North Idahoa, and then I

2803
02:43:54.719 --> 02:43:58.159
went that way. And I've lived this life. People have

2804
02:43:58.200 --> 02:44:02.079
witnessed it. Ego Bristo was on my property for like

2805
02:44:02.200 --> 02:44:05.799
a five days. He's in my book. He was in

2806
02:44:05.920 --> 02:44:10.520
his bedroom and in the bedroom that I gave him

2807
02:44:10.840 --> 02:44:14.440
and he sits there all day and works and he

2808
02:44:14.479 --> 02:44:16.879
comes out and goes, let's go for a swim. So

2809
02:44:16.959 --> 02:44:18.559
he's a very good friend of mine. He's been on

2810
02:44:18.600 --> 02:44:21.399
my property he walked my whole property. Heck, he was

2811
02:44:21.440 --> 02:44:24.239
telling me, see, Sindy, this this and this here is

2812
02:44:24.239 --> 02:44:27.600
a blind. The Sasquatch people did this, this, They were

2813
02:44:27.680 --> 02:44:30.079
spying on you, and then they did this this. He

2814
02:44:30.159 --> 02:44:32.719
watched my whole property. I read a video of it.

2815
02:44:32.760 --> 02:44:38.760
But again the things energies come into place where the

2816
02:44:39.040 --> 02:44:41.600
video starts getting shaky and it's changed over time.

2817
02:44:43.200 --> 02:44:46.559
So that's where I'm at now. I will be back

2818
02:44:46.760 --> 02:44:48.920
home next week. I will be in the mountains because

2819
02:44:48.920 --> 02:44:52.239
it' huckleberry picking time and I'm going to take it

2820
02:44:52.280 --> 02:44:55.000
to the next level. Then this year, when I get

2821
02:44:55.000 --> 02:44:57.600
to Texas, I'm going to continue that with that clan

2822
02:44:57.719 --> 02:44:58.200
down there.

2823
02:44:58.639 --> 02:45:00.799
I did find an area that I was called out to.

2824
02:45:01.000 --> 02:45:07.639
It's a wildlife management control area. I was called out

2825
02:45:07.680 --> 02:45:10.600
there by the forest people because it's completely trash. I

2826
02:45:10.680 --> 02:45:13.639
called it the state no one's giving me answers. When

2827
02:45:13.680 --> 02:45:15.440
I get back, that's going to be my project. I'm

2828
02:45:15.479 --> 02:45:15.879
not writing.

2829
02:45:16.040 --> 02:45:18.719
I was going to write a book, but my first

2830
02:45:18.799 --> 02:45:22.280
thing I'm going to do is and someone.

2831
02:45:22.639 --> 02:45:27.040
Called me and said, hey, the Susquash people, I want

2832
02:45:27.040 --> 02:45:30.680
you to go to this area and clean it up,

2833
02:45:30.760 --> 02:45:33.520
like you know, it's trash. We need to clean it up.

2834
02:45:33.760 --> 02:45:35.799
So I'm going to do that. When I get to

2835
02:45:35.840 --> 02:45:37.920
East Texas, I'm going to find out who's responsible for

2836
02:45:37.959 --> 02:45:40.479
this area and it needs to be cleaned up. So

2837
02:45:41.600 --> 02:45:44.280
that's where I'm at right now. So they are very real.

2838
02:45:44.479 --> 02:45:46.879
There are some bad ones out there, just like people.

2839
02:45:47.200 --> 02:45:53.760
They are a people, and this is very real. They

2840
02:45:53.760 --> 02:45:57.280
are not just flesh and blood. By Ron Moorehead's book,

2841
02:45:58.319 --> 02:46:00.319
He's got three of them. The first one is is

2842
02:46:00.319 --> 02:46:03.520
in the Wilderness, The second one is the Quantum Sasquash

2843
02:46:03.600 --> 02:46:05.959
or something like that, and then the third one.

2844
02:46:06.200 --> 02:46:09.040
The second one goes into it pretty good. Then the

2845
02:46:09.040 --> 02:46:14.760
third one answers questions about interdimensional Henry Franzoni he wrote

2846
02:46:14.760 --> 02:46:17.040
a book in a cool way.

2847
02:46:17.840 --> 02:46:21.600
Okay, Yes, I love Henry Franzoni so much.

2848
02:46:21.959 --> 02:46:24.360
Yes, And you will look for him on a Flashi

2849
02:46:24.399 --> 02:46:27.840
of Beauty interview and he will explain it, like as scientists,

2850
02:46:27.840 --> 02:46:32.280
how they go, how they interdimensionally change. He will give you.

2851
02:46:32.559 --> 02:46:35.000
He will. I mean, like I said, this is not

2852
02:46:35.719 --> 02:46:39.319
something made up. This is not where you can roll

2853
02:46:39.360 --> 02:46:42.959
your eyes. Go right the heck and do it because

2854
02:46:43.079 --> 02:46:46.280
you are missing out. Open up your mind a little bit.

2855
02:46:46.319 --> 02:46:50.520
Because I promise you there is more to this. Now,

2856
02:46:50.639 --> 02:46:52.200
do they all have these capabilities?

2857
02:46:52.239 --> 02:46:54.319
I don't know, because I don't see the ones in

2858
02:46:54.360 --> 02:46:56.559
East Texas the same way I see them.

2859
02:46:56.440 --> 02:46:59.920
As those being more aggressive. So you said the one

2860
02:47:00.040 --> 02:47:02.559
in North Idaho, you wouldn't want to go there. So

2861
02:47:03.200 --> 02:47:06.120
I guess now, I know we've been on this foam

2862
02:47:06.200 --> 02:47:08.159
way a lot of than what I had planned. But

2863
02:47:09.159 --> 02:47:11.600
I'm sorry you got me started. Can we go back

2864
02:47:11.639 --> 02:47:14.040
to that comment when you said you think that they're

2865
02:47:14.120 --> 02:47:15.719
very aggressive up here. Why would you say that?

2866
02:47:15.920 --> 02:47:16.000
So?

2867
02:47:16.200 --> 02:47:18.440
I said that because there was an interview I had

2868
02:47:18.479 --> 02:47:23.079
with a hunter in Northern Idaho and it was a

2869
02:47:23.120 --> 02:47:29.719
really interesting interaction he had. But I mean, I've also

2870
02:47:29.799 --> 02:47:34.959
talked to another lady in Northern Idaho and she experienced

2871
02:47:34.959 --> 02:47:40.719
some very I would almost say high strangeness, not just sasquatch,

2872
02:47:40.799 --> 02:47:41.920
but other things as well.

2873
02:47:42.040 --> 02:47:51.120
So yeah, I mean, is her name Angeline? No? Oh? Okay, well,

2874
02:47:51.120 --> 02:47:56.840
because she is amazing, Okay, she was? Okay, Well, so

2875
02:47:57.159 --> 02:47:59.879
what happened to these people? They were They had scary

2876
02:47:59.879 --> 02:48:00.920
and counters.

2877
02:48:01.600 --> 02:48:05.120
There were The main scary thing was she was out

2878
02:48:05.120 --> 02:48:08.159
walking her dog and a voice was calling to them

2879
02:48:08.200 --> 02:48:11.120
from the woods using their exact name.

2880
02:48:12.600 --> 02:48:14.520
Luck what happened to me exactly?

2881
02:48:14.680 --> 02:48:16.639
Yeah, yeah, And.

2882
02:48:16.559 --> 02:48:18.000
I still don't know what that was.

2883
02:48:18.079 --> 02:48:20.399
And there's a lot of missing people in that area,

2884
02:48:20.639 --> 02:48:21.600
I believe as well.

2885
02:48:22.680 --> 02:48:25.000
So it's at the front door. Really, I didn't know that.

2886
02:48:25.360 --> 02:48:30.159
Yeah, I don't get me area. But it's just kind

2887
02:48:30.159 --> 02:48:34.000
of weird vibes from northern Idaho. But maybe someday I'll

2888
02:48:34.040 --> 02:48:37.399
go up there. But just some weird stuff i've heard so.

2889
02:48:38.399 --> 02:48:43.879
Well. My mountain is called Hoodoo Mountain and the Indians

2890
02:48:43.959 --> 02:48:47.719
dated a long time ago. There's the energy here that

2891
02:48:49.799 --> 02:48:54.479
you will respect it. You will respect it if you don't,

2892
02:48:55.200 --> 02:49:00.079
and you know, you know then I'm not sure, but

2893
02:49:01.399 --> 02:49:03.959
that's kind of where I'm at, and so I try

2894
02:49:03.959 --> 02:49:06.319
to be very very careful because the more you know,

2895
02:49:06.399 --> 02:49:09.600
the more you have to learn to discern things because

2896
02:49:09.840 --> 02:49:14.920
you are a door wide open now. And I've had

2897
02:49:15.000 --> 02:49:17.799
a lot of scary things happen as well, and I

2898
02:49:17.879 --> 02:49:20.159
am sleeping out in my woods. I'm terrified to sleep

2899
02:49:20.200 --> 02:49:22.360
out in my woods, and all I says, you have

2900
02:49:22.399 --> 02:49:26.120
to get past that. I know. So last year I

2901
02:49:26.159 --> 02:49:28.280
started sleeping at the tree line.

2902
02:49:28.719 --> 02:49:31.520
And I have no shame in telling you I didn't

2903
02:49:31.559 --> 02:49:34.600
get much further past ten yards in the tree line,

2904
02:49:35.159 --> 02:49:38.079
and it gets cold at night. So one night I

2905
02:49:38.120 --> 02:49:40.000
was out there sleep. My dog will not go with

2906
02:49:40.040 --> 02:49:44.040
me in the tent. Out there, I've heard things. I've

2907
02:49:44.079 --> 02:49:46.600
even heard wolf and like dog men stuff.

2908
02:49:47.879 --> 02:49:51.239
My property has been remote viewed two times. Jessica Jones

2909
02:49:51.319 --> 02:49:54.280
has remote viewed my property. You can go on YouTube

2910
02:49:55.000 --> 02:49:59.959
and she's done just eaty stuff portals. There's a dog

2911
02:50:00.120 --> 02:50:04.799
man she saw and the Yeah.

2912
02:50:04.879 --> 02:50:06.440
So that's kind of where I'm at right now. So

2913
02:50:06.479 --> 02:50:08.840
now I'm setting the East Texas Clan.

2914
02:50:09.760 --> 02:50:15.159
I gotta clean up property down there, whatever that's trash,

2915
02:50:15.639 --> 02:50:18.600
and now I want to get I'm going to start

2916
02:50:18.600 --> 02:50:21.719
interacting with them out there. I said I would never

2917
02:50:21.760 --> 02:50:24.040
give them food, but I am going to start putting.

2918
02:50:24.959 --> 02:50:26.680
I am going to put maple syrup out there. I

2919
02:50:26.680 --> 02:50:30.239
said I wasn't going to do it. And when my

2920
02:50:30.440 --> 02:50:33.559
dog Star died as predicted, I called her, Rebecca Foster

2921
02:50:33.680 --> 02:50:37.520
up and I told her and I tagged her in

2922
02:50:38.159 --> 02:50:41.520
on her page to let people know that this woman

2923
02:50:41.920 --> 02:50:46.639
is the real deal. So that's kind of it. And

2924
02:50:46.879 --> 02:50:49.559
we've probably been on her three hours and I said

2925
02:50:49.639 --> 02:50:50.520
an hour, Yeah.

2926
02:50:50.360 --> 02:50:54.360
Right, Cindy, it says an incredible journey if you think

2927
02:50:54.399 --> 02:50:56.280
of the whole thing, and just thank you for taking

2928
02:50:56.319 --> 02:50:59.239
the time to lay it all out. And I'm sure

2929
02:50:59.399 --> 02:51:02.319
many people will learn a ton of things from this.

2930
02:51:03.479 --> 02:51:06.600
And also how can people keep up to date with

2931
02:51:06.920 --> 02:51:09.040
what you're doing when your book's going to come out

2932
02:51:09.120 --> 02:51:10.200
and all that good stuff.

2933
02:51:11.959 --> 02:51:15.120
Okay, So I am on Facebook, Cindy and bueno b

2934
02:51:15.360 --> 02:51:20.479
e ando, good break, good be ake. You can send

2935
02:51:20.520 --> 02:51:22.840
me a friend request or you can send me a message.

2936
02:51:22.879 --> 02:51:26.000
It'll go on my other folder. For some reason. You know,

2937
02:51:26.120 --> 02:51:29.360
I am an activist and a lot of people don't

2938
02:51:29.399 --> 02:51:33.040
like political stuff, but I will, you know, I will

2939
02:51:33.079 --> 02:51:37.840
speak up, so hopefully people will know that I am trying, like,

2940
02:51:38.360 --> 02:51:39.360
come to my page.

2941
02:51:39.399 --> 02:51:41.520
If you see something you don't like, and if it's

2942
02:51:41.520 --> 02:51:43.760
not subs Squatch related, don't worry about it.

2943
02:51:44.120 --> 02:51:46.879
Send me a message. Because I have another page. It's

2944
02:51:46.879 --> 02:51:50.120
called Sasquatch Sisters Northwest and I have a lot of

2945
02:51:50.239 --> 02:51:52.719
videos on there that go back to twenty twenty one.

2946
02:51:53.079 --> 02:51:57.159
You can scroll down and see them, and I that's

2947
02:51:57.239 --> 02:52:01.280
where I will be continually putting stuff up there. I

2948
02:52:01.319 --> 02:52:06.200
put stuff up there from Texas from years past where

2949
02:52:06.200 --> 02:52:07.799
I'm out of my four wheeler and I'm you know,

2950
02:52:07.799 --> 02:52:11.760
I'm doing something. I have some hows, some audios on

2951
02:52:11.840 --> 02:52:17.319
that page so people can find me there. Yeah.

2952
02:52:17.360 --> 02:52:21.479
So yeah, we are living in the last days, and

2953
02:52:21.600 --> 02:52:23.920
I honestly believe that a lot of the things that

2954
02:52:23.959 --> 02:52:25.360
are happening here in the world.

2955
02:52:25.319 --> 02:52:27.680
Is because it's it's just it's time. And I think

2956
02:52:27.719 --> 02:52:31.600
part of the.

2957
02:52:30.159 --> 02:52:32.799
The energies, you know, like I said, that are happening

2958
02:52:32.920 --> 02:52:36.600
right now, a lot of people are waking up, and

2959
02:52:36.879 --> 02:52:40.040
part of waking up is having the ability to see

2960
02:52:40.360 --> 02:52:44.920
like the set like these, see them change interdimensionally, like

2961
02:52:45.040 --> 02:52:46.040
run in front of your eyes.

2962
02:52:47.520 --> 02:52:53.200
So fascinating. Well, Sin, I hope we keep in touch.

2963
02:52:53.239 --> 02:52:55.719
I'm sure there might be a follow up sometime in

2964
02:52:55.760 --> 02:52:59.159
the future as things will continue to progress. But thank

2965
02:52:59.200 --> 02:53:01.959
you so much for chatting today, Cindy. It has been

2966
02:53:02.280 --> 02:53:05.200
a really fun and interesting conversation.

2967
02:53:07.000 --> 02:53:09.840
Well, thank you for letting me talk non stop for

2968
02:53:09.959 --> 02:53:11.120
who knows how long.

2969
02:53:12.479 --> 02:53:15.280
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2970
02:53:15.440 --> 02:53:18.879
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2971
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2973
02:53:25.520 --> 02:53:28.760
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2975
02:53:33.040 --> 02:53:36.239
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2976
02:53:36.239 --> 02:53:39.120
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2977
02:53:39.319 --> 02:53:43.399
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2978
02:53:43.440 --> 02:53:46.879
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2979
02:53:47.639 --> 02:53:50.559
Here's the list. If you've had any encounters in Oregon,

2980
02:53:50.799 --> 02:53:53.120
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2981
02:53:53.319 --> 02:53:56.200
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2982
02:53:56.239 --> 02:53:59.840
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2983
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2984
02:54:03.559 --> 02:54:06.159
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2985
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02:54:10.360 --> 02:54:13.600
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2987
02:54:13.600 --> 02:54:16.840
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2988
02:54:16.840 --> 02:54:20.040
you there, and again, thanks for listening.

2989
02:55:09.920 --> 02:55:11.399
Her and I can get out here, we can tell

2990
02:55:11.399 --> 02:55:14.680
our stories. Maybe there's somebody else out there listening it's

2991
02:55:14.760 --> 02:55:17.680
too afraid to tell their story. Maybe this will give

2992
02:55:17.719 --> 02:55:19.479
them the courage to come out.

2993
02:55:19.719 --> 02:55:21.280
And I feel so bad about it.

2994
02:55:21.680 --> 02:55:24.200
Who cares what anybody's thinks. I know what I saw.

2995
02:55:24.680 --> 02:55:27.559
I know what's out there. That's all I care about.

2996
02:55:43.479 --> 02:55:47.559
Please let people know, Please let them know. If you

2997
02:55:47.719 --> 02:55:50.680
ever see one of these things, you need to tell

2998
02:55:51.280 --> 02:55:53.959
because if you don't, then shame on you. You know,

2999
02:55:54.719 --> 02:55:55.360
shame on you.