Aug. 26, 2024

"It was all I could do to not start screaming!"

Join Jeremiah from Bigfoot Society as he delves into chilling encounters with Daniel, co-host of the Mysteries Unknown Podcast. Daniel recounts his first sighting of a massive female Bigfoot at age 12 in Graham, Washington, and shares intense stories...

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Season 1

Join Jeremiah from Bigfoot Society as he delves into chilling encounters with Daniel, co-host of the Mysteries Unknown Podcast. Daniel recounts his first sighting of a massive female Bigfoot at age 12 in Graham, Washington, and shares intense stories of being chased out of a hunting camp and a terrifying experience in Shelby County, Tennessee. From Bigfoot sightings and objects being thrown to infrasound effects and eerie whistling, these spine-chilling tales will keep you on edge. Daniel also opens up about the loss of his brother, his cautious approach to adventures, and his mission to validate and protect people's paranormal experiences with co-host Josh on the Mysteries Unknown channel. Discover more about Daniel's journey and his new Paranormal Narrative Podcast dedicated to supernatural and ghostly phenomena, providing a supportive community for sharing unexplained experiences.

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slash the Big for Society and now let's get on

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with the show. All right, Big for Society. You've got

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the privilege of talking to Daniel today. Daniel's one of

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the co hosts of the great YouTube channel Mysteries Unknown podcast.

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I've been wanting to talk to him for quite a while.

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That is one of the shows that I like to watch,

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one of the I would say up and coming shows.

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There's that one and then not so perfect Bigfoot show

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is great, but man, I love watching them when I've

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got the time. But Daniel, it's a pleasure chatting to

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you today and thanks for coming on the show.

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Hey, Jeremi, it's my pleasure. Thank you so much for

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having me on.

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Absolutely. How's the weather up there where you're at, Man.

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Well, it's probably the same as yours. I'm a little

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north of you. I'm up here in Minnesota, and so

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we're kind of going through like a cool wave and

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then a heat wave and looks like we're going to

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get some rain tomorrow. So yeah, probably about the same

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as you.

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Yeah, Yeah, that's true. We're both Midwest dude, So yeah,

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our stuff's pretty similar. But Man, Daniel, we've talked a

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little bit off air, and it sounds like you've had

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some really interesting things happen on the show. So I

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would love to go ahead and just toss it right

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over to you, and you're welcome to share what you've

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experienced over the years.

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Sure. Well, you know, when I was twelve years old,

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I lived in Graham, Washington's that's where I'm originally from.

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I was born in Belgium, my dad was stationed over there,

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got back to Washington State and that's pretty much where

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I grew up. And we lived in Graham, Washington at

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the time of the sighting. Like I said, I was

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like twelve years old. This was ninety excuse me eighty four,

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about eighty four time frame. And when we my brother

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and I, when we first moved back with our dad,

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he was living in like an adult like RV park,

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trailer park, and that was more and more elderly retired people,

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and you know, there was really no one our age

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supposed to be there. My dad was able to talk

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with the owners and they were okay with it. We

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made ourselves kind of useful, you know. We'd go around

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help out, you know, help people take their garbage out

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and stuff like that. We never caused any trouble. My

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dad knew and realized that this was not a place

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for us to grow up. So while we were spending

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I want to say, a spring break in Tacoma with

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my with my aunt, my dad had already in the

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works buying like five acres of land. And this land

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was not very far, you know, it was up up

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past the top of Graham Hill. I think it's Meridian.

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I think that's the name of the major street. I

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can't really remember. But when he came back, my dad

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just drove right past this trailer park, you know, this

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this this RV park, and I what are you doing?

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It's like I show you a boy something, and you know,

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he goes down a ways and makes a right and

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goes down aways another road, makes another right and goes

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down aways another road and turns onto this long gravel road.

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Now at the time, I thought the gravel road was

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probably like five miles long, but it was in actuality

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is maybe a mile and a half, maybe two miles long.

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But this road was it was kind of like it

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had dips in it and little rises and little straightaways

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and then another dip and then another rise, you know.

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And so he goes down here and he pulls it

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into the end of this property and lo and behold

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there's the I'm gonna say camper. It was a fifth wheel,

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so it's pretty much a camper. There was the camper.

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And my dad had set this camper on this land.

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They'd already cleared some of it. He'd built a really

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nice deck pretty much around from the back part of

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it around to the front part of it, just a

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huge deck, built a shed out there, and had fastened

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down this our camper. You know. He put the you know,

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had it put up on blocks and had all the

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anchor ties down and stuff like that, and you know,

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we were like, holy Bucketsy, this is five acres of woods,

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pine and and some other indigenous trees. And I was

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like this, this is awesome. So we spent you know,

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that first weekend or whatever, just running around the woods

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having a good time. Never think anything of it. You know.

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Fast forward, we were coming back another time, me, my dad,

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my brother, my dad was my dad of course, was

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driving my our brothers in this backseat, sleeping, and we're

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coming home and it's probably one or two in the morning,

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I don't want to say more towards the one o'clock timeframe.

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And as we turn off onto the road we go,

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we start going down. We go down this little dip,

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we come back up this rise, and we came on

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this ride. We hit this a little straightaway and I

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noticed the some eye shine off to the right side

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of this gravel road that we were on, and it

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was pretty far down, but it was still it caught

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my attention and then I just said, Dad, I said,

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there's something up there on the road. I said, you

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might watching your brights on and he's like, no, no, no,

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you'll see us coming. You know, it'll, it'll, it'll, it'll

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get off the road, you know. And so we go

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back down this dip and back up this rise, and

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we come back up this rise. Our lights, you know,

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I see this light, this this this eye shine again.

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It's like a dark amber, reddish hue. And I'm like, Dad,

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there's something right there on the side of the road.

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If we go down this dip and come back up,

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it's going to be right there. So it's weird to

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call down the dip and come back up the rise.

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My dad turned his brides on and he also had

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these new foglights on that you know, kind of like

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today's driving lights. They really widen your your scope of vision, right,

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And all of a sudden, our lights hit it. And

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there she was. And when I say she one hundred

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percent a female, she stood up, and Jeremiah, I honestly,

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I don't for the life of me, I thought she

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was never gonna stop standing up. She was massive. She

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turned at the waist, and that's how I knew that

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she was a female. Saw her breast, saw her face,

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she turned almost way she was standing up. She did

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like a one eighty so she just kind of turned

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her complete body around, and it wasn't like super fast,

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like she just whipped her around, but she kind of

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turned looked at us, and then turned and then took

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like two steps maybe three steps, off the side of

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the road, and it was gone into the woods right.

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And I'm I'm just I'm surprised, I'm scared. And as

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we're driving by, you know, I go, Dad, Dad, Dad,

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He's like he just didn't say a word. He just

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kept driving. He didn't speed up, he didn't sow down,

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he just kept going like he didn't see it. And

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as I looked to my to my right, I saw

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her like squatting into the woods. And there was enough

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light from from the way the angle the lights shined

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out that I saw her blinker eyes twice. And so

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my dad pulled into our property and the car was

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not even at a complete stop. I'd already had the

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door opening. I had my hand in my pocket taking

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my key out, and I as soon as my dad

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the car stopped, I was out of the car, running

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up the steps and unlocking the door door a camper

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and running in and I jumped into my dad's bed. Now,

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when you walked into the camper a fifth, will you

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know you have this this hitch that you hitch up

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to a truck. So it's kind of got like this

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little loft area. And that's where my brother and I slept.

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And if you're looking head on at the fifth will

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at the camper, I slept on the right hand side.

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My brother slept on the left kind of. So my

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brother slept on the side that was where the deck

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was built closest to that, and I slept where the

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shed and the woods and everything were. And so I

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jumped in. My dad had a hide a bed. It

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was a queen's size hide of bed. I jumped into

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that bed and I was like, Dad, you know. My

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dad comes in and he puts my brother up up

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into his bed, and I'm like, Dad, what was that?

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What was that? He's like, you know, you know what

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that was? I go, Dad, that was a that was

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a big foot. He's like, don't worry about it, no,

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you know, hey, everything's to be fine. And while I

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was talking at me, trying to calm me down, he's

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going into the cupboards and he's pulling you know, fruit out,

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he's you know, other types of stuff. He goes into

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the fridge and he pulls out you know, like grapes

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and some vegetables and things like that. And when my

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dad had built the deck, he put this this really

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tall pole on one corner of the deck with like

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a metal plate welded onto it because he wanted to

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put like a bird feeder up there. So my dad

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loved watching birds. He would take pictures of him and stuff.

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And my dad goes. He has everything, you know, gathered up.

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He leaves the camper, goes outside. I hear him shut

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the car door because I didn't shut my car door.

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I hear him open up the shed. He comes back around.

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He has a he has a ladder with him and

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like this tube of grease or something right, I did

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not really wasn't sure what it was. At first. He

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goes and I see him put the ladder up, and

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then he comes in, grabs all the food, climbs up

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the ladder a couple of times, puts the food up there.

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And then what he does is it takes this and

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he squirts this grease or whatever on the on this

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rag and he as high as he could possibly get,

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he just slowly puts grease all over this pole. And

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I'm watching my dad. I'm like, Dad, what are you

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doing that for? He's like, that's to stop anything from

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getting to get that food. And I go like, what,

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like like what he is like raccoons? I go, oh, okay, okay, raccoons.

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And for the brief second that made sense to me,

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you know, for a second, it made me stop thinking

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about what we had just seen maybe fifteen twenty minutes earlier.

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So We're laying in bed, and as I'm laying there,

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my dad was a smoker, and he never smoked in

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the camper, but he's outside and I could hear him talking,

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and so I got nosy and I kind of put

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my ear up to the door a little bit, and

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I hear him say something to the fact like, you know, hey,

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we saw you. You know you saw us. You know

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these are just my boys. I just want to make

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a home. Please don't scare him, don't hurt him. We

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don't want to We don't want any harm. We don't

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mean any harm. Because when my dad was clearing all

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the land, you know, he didn't clear everything. He cleared

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enough space to where he could plant a garden and

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build a home, because he that's what he was doing.

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He was he was cutting some of the trees down

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so he could build like an a frame house. That's

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what he always wanted to build for us. But he

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did and go in and just cut down any tree.

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He was very selective on what he did. My dad

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was raised in Alaska. Family were fishermen and laggers, so

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my dad had a really deep respect for mother nature

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and animals. Whenever he hunted, he always said, you know,

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make sure you think you know, we thank this animal

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for giving up itself, you know, so con feed us

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and whatnot. You know, he did. He was very very mindful.

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And so my dad comes in. I jumped back into bed.

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I hear him coming to the door. I jump back

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into the bed and I go, Dad, well who are

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you talking to He's like, oh, I was praying. I go,

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why didn't hear you say? Amen? So my dad just

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kind of goes amen. You know, we're laying in bed,

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you know, and I'm like, Dad, you know what. He's like,

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Let's not talk about it. You know, everything's gonna be fine,

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don't worry about it. You know, they're more scared of

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us than we're them. You know, he's getting you know,

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Dad's trying to calm down his son, you know, and

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it's working a little bit, but I'm still, you know,

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I'm still a little frightened. I don't know how long

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I was awake, but I woke up hearing this loud,

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like this loud creak. And when I say creak, I

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meant I hear something step up on the deck. And

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whatever had stepped up on this deck, the boards which

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was growning. It was like a massive amount of weight

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was stepping. With each stepping, you heard him crack and groan.

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And and about that time, where I slept on my

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dad's bed, I might against this camp of wall, and

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I heard and felt something run by, and I look

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over my dad and my dad's you know, I've getting

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ready say something. My dad puts, you know, puts his

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finger to his lips. He's like, tell me to be quiet,

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and I'm my dad is the one out there, and

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he like shakes his head, you know, and I'm looking

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at him and he puts up three fingers and I go,

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there's three out there, and he's like yeah, you know,

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he did mouths yes. And about that time, I hear

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this vocalization coming from outside, you know, like it's kind

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of like the samurai chatter. I'm not gonna try to

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imitate it because I'm gonna butcher it. But so I

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kind of heard that and I looked at my dad,

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and my dad'sill, chill, still telling me to, you know,

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be quiet. And that's when I noticed my dad had

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a gun resting on his chest. And I'm like, I'm thinking,

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you know, now, I'm now as as a fifty you know,

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fifty two year old almost fifty three year old man,

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I'm thinking, Number one, my dad's handgun was not going

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to stop one of these things. Number Two, if they

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wanted to get it, all he had to do was

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rip that door right off that camper. There's no stop

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in one of these things if they wanted to get

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at me, right, so, I must have dozed off. I

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wake up. We had the the curtain on the on

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the campra door. It was cracked a little bit. Sunlight

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was shining through, and as it woke me up, well,

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I jumped up real quick, jumped over. My dad flew

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open the door, and I'm looking around and I'm looking

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and I did something I knew I wasn't supposed to do,

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but I did it anyway. I climbed up on the

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on the banister. You know, the the the railing of

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the of the deck climbed up there where I could

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see higher up on and all the food was gone.

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Every single thing my dad proke there was gone. I

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looked around, there was nothing on the ground. Nothing. I

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go and I look at the pole and you could

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see where something had grabbed the pole. It was a

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massive hand and you could tell a massive hand had

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grabbed this pole. And then it looked like from as

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high up as it could reach was almost to the

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very very top of where this little metal platform was.

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There was like a line from there all the way

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down where something had taken its finger and just rubbed

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it all the way down. And it must have got

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a ton of grease or whatever it was on its finger,

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but you could tell where it just ran his finger down.

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So I run in the house, record on his camper

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real quick. I'm my dad, Dad, Dad, all the food's gone.

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All the food's gone. And he's like, what, I go,

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all the food's gone. They took the food. They took

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the food. And you know, my dad told me to

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kind of keep it down. So my dad goes out

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looks when we look around. I don't recall ever seeing

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any any prints around that at that.

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Time big for society. Who will be right back after

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these messages.

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And so my dad would go out walking around, look

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over at the shed and stuff, don't see anything. About

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that time, my little brother comes out and you know,

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hear us talk and he's like, you know, oh, what

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a you gotta talking about? I said there was a

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big foot, and my dad got mad because I, you know,

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said bigfoot. My brother's like, oh, he goes, yeah, I've

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seen a couple of small ones hanging around, you know,

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when we play our music, and like what he's like, Yeah,

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he goes whenever we bring the radio out and we

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play music, you would play tape or whatever. While out

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there playing, I see two small ones. They go to

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the tree line over there, and he's pointing over to

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an area where my dad already cleared and in that

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area we'd built a tree fort. And my brother goes, yeah,

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they like to hang out over there and listen to

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listen to the music, and he goes. I remember going

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over to the tree fort one day and I saw

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something jump out of the tree fort and run off

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into the woods. And I thought it was just a

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little boy, but it was it was too big. To

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be a little boy. So that was that signing that

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I had now previously before that siding this happened probably,

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I want to say, well maybe February timeframe when this happened.

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We had a storm come through and the thunder lightning rain.

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I mean, it was just it was a terrible thunderstorm

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and for some reason, I just could not fall asleep.

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So I'm laying on my back and this huge bang

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of thunder hits and this bright flash of lightning, and

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no sooner did that lightning disappear. It felt like our

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camper was being pushed over on its side. Something hit

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the camper super, super hard enough where it felt like

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it was tipping the camper onto its side. And when

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it fell back down, I immediately pulled open this little curtain,

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little shade that we had, and I looked out. And

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when I looked out, I saw this this flash of

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lightning hit and it lit up the whole area. And

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I saw something walking, not running, but walking, and walked

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underneath this tree where this branch was hanging out, and

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walked off into the woods. And you know, I told

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my dad, you know, my brother was asleep. My dad.

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I woke my dad up my dad says, we'll look

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in the morning, and I'm my dad, it was a

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GD bigfoot. He's like, stop saying that. I go, Dad,

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it was a GD bigfoot. He's like, stop saying that.

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I go. Okay, it was a bigfoot. And I was

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very adamant that's what I saw, but again I wasn't

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really one hundred percent certain at that time. And again

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this happened before I saw my sighting. And so we

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went out the next morning and we're looking around and

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it had rained, so people could have just taken a

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fire hose and just spread the whole ground. That's how

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much rain it looked like it fell. Turn around, we

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looked at the camper and about six and a half

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maybe seven feet up, there was a huge dent in

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the side of our camper where like something had ran

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as hard as it could and like put shoulder into

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it or use both hands to try to push it over.

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It hit the camper so hard that some of the

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anchor straps were pulled completely out of the ground. Some

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of them cement blocks that were the camper was on

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had been crushed, had been you know, broken, and things.

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And my brother comes out of here's this talking and

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he's like, you know what what happened? What you know?

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You guys are saying something hit the camp and my

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dad goes a branch hit the Camper's that go okay?

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So that was like the very first you know at

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that time that I understood, you know, this is what

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I saw, This is what you know, this is what's

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going on?

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Daniel. That is just absolutely wild for context for the listeners.

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So this takes place in Pierce County, which, if we're

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going by the BFRO I believe has the highest number

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of publicly available Pierce County has its gig Harbor all

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the way over to Mount Rainier National Park and you're

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there kind of in the middle of it. So you've

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got a lot of action going on, a ton of action.

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Yep.

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Had a few questions, Vitoria, definitely go ahead, No, no,

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go ahead. Remind me again, So the initial sighting where

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there was the female bigfoot by the side of the road,

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how far away from your camper was that again?

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Maybe maybe two hundred and fifty yards maybe, man, maybe

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two hundred.

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Wow.

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I know you said you were about twelve years old,

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so it's it's been a while, but I mean, do

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you remember any any details of what you were able

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to see. I mean you said you saw the face.

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For a little bit, correct, Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Well. She

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had a like a slight conical head huge bridge high bridge,

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you know, bridge brow, a flat nose. Her skin was black.

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Her color of her hair, I want to say, was

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like a dark like charcoal almost black. Yeah, that's I mean.

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She didn't show me her teeth. She had ears kind

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of like almost like a chimp kind of but not.

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And yeah, dude, she was massive, man, she was just huge.

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She was probably a good seven and a half feet tall,

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just massive. I had to guess weight. I'm saying probably

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four hundred and fifty five hundred pounds. Maybe she was massive.

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Would you be able to estimate if you were looking

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at how wide across the shoulders.

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Were, hmmm, probably four and a half maybe four and

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a half feet wide at the shoulders, maybe five. She

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was big, man, She was big. And the funny thing

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is is I honestly believe that there was a family.

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And you know, some people may say, oh, you know,

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they don't travel in families. Yes they do. This was

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a family unit. And the reason I say that is

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the one that hit the camper I want to say,

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was like an adolescent male. You're like maybe like a

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late teens, early twenties. Then there was two juveniles my

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brother had seen. I never saw him, and then there

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was one big male that I just caught glimpses of.

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It was never something, oh, look there he is, you know,

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but what he was kind of like in the area,

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and you knew what he was in the area because

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I just got this feeling like there had been plenty

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times my brother and I were out and had our

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tree fort hanging out and my brother just to look

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at him, He's like, we got to go back to

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the house. I'm like, yeah, we gotta go. It just

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the whole air just changed. Now when the female was around,

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never had that. When that like the the attle or

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the i'll call him the teenage or the young adult,

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the young adult never really felt that. But when the

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big male was around, things just changed. And I remember

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at times I looked out the window of our three

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four and I'd see something move back behind a tree,

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and what I saw was a bigger than the female,

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massive by the female, And I don't understand why he

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would hide behind some of these trees because he was

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wider than these trees. He easily had to be five

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and a half almost six feet wide across. I mean, well,

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I might be exaggerating that, but I'm telling you, Jeremiah,

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this dude was massive. But he was never aggressive towards me.

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I never encountered him being aggressive. He just I think

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he was just around just to make sure we didn't

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we didn't screw off and do something.

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Stupid, you know, right, Yeah, absolutely.

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And I think him. I think the father and the

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mother the female that I saw, I think they kept

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that young adult in check because if they weren't around,

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there's no doubt in my mind. I want to say

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that young adult would easily have just been tormenting us

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the entire time.

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00:24:18.880 --> 00:24:22.359
Wow, I don't get to talk to a lot of

452
00:24:22.440 --> 00:24:25.839
people about female big foot sightings. Was it similar to

453
00:24:26.880 --> 00:24:30.200
Patty at all? Or was it a completely different thing?

454
00:24:31.759 --> 00:24:34.279
I want to say similar. I want to say probably

455
00:24:34.319 --> 00:24:38.000
about seventy five maybe eighty five percent similar to Patty.

456
00:24:40.599 --> 00:24:43.640
Like the girth, because Patty's she was girthy. You know,

457
00:24:43.960 --> 00:24:48.920
she had matt and so did this one. She had mass.

458
00:24:49.039 --> 00:24:51.519
And again it wasn't the first time that I saw her.

459
00:24:51.559 --> 00:24:53.200
It wasn't like the only time I saw her. My

460
00:24:53.359 --> 00:24:57.480
dad loved us, you know. He helped me and my

461
00:24:57.559 --> 00:25:01.640
brother build a two seater go car that we you know,

462
00:25:01.720 --> 00:25:04.680
we had off like these off road wheels on, and

463
00:25:04.839 --> 00:25:07.400
we would we would just drive all over the place,

464
00:25:07.720 --> 00:25:11.599
right And there'd be times where I'd be flying by

465
00:25:11.880 --> 00:25:14.160
and my brother he'd look behind. He goes, she's looking

466
00:25:14.200 --> 00:25:18.440
at us, and I whip around real quick. I kind

467
00:25:18.480 --> 00:25:20.359
of snapped my head around. I'd see her, just catch

468
00:25:20.400 --> 00:25:22.079
a glimpse of her. She would like look out of

469
00:25:22.160 --> 00:25:27.519
the woods, just to see what we were doing. But

470
00:25:28.160 --> 00:25:31.680
never never met I mean, we never had rocks or

471
00:25:32.599 --> 00:25:34.720
sticks or anything thrown at us while we were there.

472
00:25:35.039 --> 00:25:38.039
We did hear you know, we did hear whoops, We

473
00:25:38.160 --> 00:25:43.200
did hear whistles. I remember we heard this owl one time. Bobby,

474
00:25:43.279 --> 00:25:44.920
did you hear My little brother's name was Bobby, and

475
00:25:44.920 --> 00:25:47.160
I'm like, Bobby, did you hear that owl? He's like, man,

476
00:25:47.279 --> 00:25:49.799
that owl that doesn't sound like an owl. But you know,

477
00:25:50.400 --> 00:25:52.559
we heard things like that in the area. I mean,

478
00:25:53.160 --> 00:25:55.880
there were porcupine in the area, there were coyotes in

479
00:25:55.960 --> 00:26:01.079
the area, there were deer in the area, rabbit, squirrels,

480
00:26:01.119 --> 00:26:03.920
that type of stuff. There's also a couple of houses

481
00:26:03.960 --> 00:26:06.319
in the area, but they weren't super close to us,

482
00:26:06.359 --> 00:26:08.640
so we had to like go through the woods as

483
00:26:08.680 --> 00:26:12.200
a shortcut, or go back down the gravel road then

484
00:26:12.240 --> 00:26:15.440
turn off one of these little tinier roads to go

485
00:26:15.680 --> 00:26:18.680
to this you know, people's house. And I remember one

486
00:26:18.759 --> 00:26:21.240
day I was goofing off in the woods and I

487
00:26:21.319 --> 00:26:25.480
ran into this kid about might say, maybe maybe nine

488
00:26:25.599 --> 00:26:29.799
or ten years old, okay, and I'm like, Oh, where

489
00:26:29.799 --> 00:26:31.359
do you live. He's like, oh, I'll live right over here.

490
00:26:31.440 --> 00:26:33.440
You know, my dad knows you guys moving in over here,

491
00:26:33.519 --> 00:26:35.920
and you want to come over to my house. I'm like, yeah,

492
00:26:35.960 --> 00:26:37.200
you know, And I said, real quick, I got to

493
00:26:37.240 --> 00:26:40.079
go tell my dad, and he goes, I'll come with you.

494
00:26:41.079 --> 00:26:43.240
So we go running over to my house.

495
00:26:43.079 --> 00:26:46.200
And my dad dad I found a friend. He lives

496
00:26:46.200 --> 00:26:47.519
over here through the woods, and I was like, my

497
00:26:47.599 --> 00:26:49.599
Dad's like, oh, that's great. You know, just be careful

498
00:26:49.599 --> 00:26:51.200
when you're out there, you know, don't do thing dumb,

499
00:26:51.480 --> 00:26:55.839
you know, don't be stupid. And so, you know, i'd

500
00:26:55.880 --> 00:26:57.039
go over there quite a bit of times.

501
00:26:57.079 --> 00:27:00.519
And one thing that I thought was really super cool

502
00:27:00.519 --> 00:27:04.200
about his house is that his dad had this giant

503
00:27:04.359 --> 00:27:07.960
rabbit hutch. This rabbit hutch was mass we could have

504
00:27:08.000 --> 00:27:12.240
been like a little fort like seriously, And what was

505
00:27:12.279 --> 00:27:14.759
really cool about this hutch is that the front of

506
00:27:14.839 --> 00:27:17.839
it had like these double doors that had this locked.

507
00:27:17.920 --> 00:27:21.319
He had to slide like a bolt. You slide the

508
00:27:21.359 --> 00:27:25.000
bolt over and then and then lock it down. And

509
00:27:25.160 --> 00:27:28.720
then you had two other locking mechanisms that you lifted,

510
00:27:28.799 --> 00:27:31.240
like the front part of the roof of the hutch

511
00:27:31.519 --> 00:27:34.119
up and it would like lock into place. So if

512
00:27:34.119 --> 00:27:35.839
you wanted to go in there and clean everything out,

513
00:27:35.920 --> 00:27:40.759
you had easy access, right. Well. I remember one day

514
00:27:40.759 --> 00:27:44.759
I come over to my friends and me and my

515
00:27:44.880 --> 00:27:50.240
brother we come running up the driveway and I see

516
00:27:50.319 --> 00:27:54.119
his dad come walking around from from the back of

517
00:27:54.160 --> 00:27:57.839
the house and he's just livid. He's like, I don't

518
00:27:57.880 --> 00:28:01.920
get it. Why would someone do this? So we're thinking

519
00:28:02.359 --> 00:28:04.160
that our friend is out there in the backyard. So

520
00:28:04.200 --> 00:28:06.680
we go run alongside the house while his dad goes

521
00:28:06.720 --> 00:28:15.839
into the garage and Jeremiah something had manipulated the locks,

522
00:28:17.640 --> 00:28:23.640
ripped the doors off, and killed every single rabbit who

523
00:28:25.680 --> 00:28:29.279
And when I say killed them, I remember his dad

524
00:28:29.359 --> 00:28:37.079
distinctively saying they're all here, but why and when he

525
00:28:37.240 --> 00:28:40.079
asked that question, this is why he asked that question.

526
00:28:41.119 --> 00:28:44.079
Some of them are ripped apart. Some of them just

527
00:28:44.160 --> 00:28:48.920
had their heads ripped off. He had like twenty rabbits,

528
00:28:49.000 --> 00:28:52.279
thirty rabbits maybe in there, and all the rabbits were

529
00:28:52.319 --> 00:28:56.880
accounted for, but they were just all heads popped off,

530
00:28:57.319 --> 00:29:00.920
ripped in half, you know, either side, you know, like

531
00:29:01.039 --> 00:29:03.279
grabbed from the head in the bottom and just pulled apart,

532
00:29:03.400 --> 00:29:05.279
or grab by the back legs and ripped in half

533
00:29:05.359 --> 00:29:08.759
that way. Just all of them mutilated and just left

534
00:29:08.799 --> 00:29:10.920
there like someone was doing it just to have a

535
00:29:10.960 --> 00:29:15.240
good time. And that's probably the scariest thing that's that

536
00:29:15.400 --> 00:29:18.319
happened to that location. Like I said, it was probably

537
00:29:18.359 --> 00:29:20.680
maybe a quarter of a mile half a mile from

538
00:29:20.720 --> 00:29:23.599
where we were to the road something like that, and

539
00:29:24.039 --> 00:29:27.039
we would have to walk up to the to the

540
00:29:27.160 --> 00:29:29.920
main road where there was a street light that's where

541
00:29:29.920 --> 00:29:33.319
our bus picked us up. And there'd be times we'd

542
00:29:33.359 --> 00:29:35.079
have to get up, like four o'clock in the morning,

543
00:29:35.200 --> 00:29:37.920
four thirty to get up to the bus stop. Because

544
00:29:37.920 --> 00:29:40.079
the bus cat came around like a five point fifteen

545
00:29:40.200 --> 00:29:42.160
and this is a rural area, so it had a

546
00:29:42.240 --> 00:29:44.119
big route and so by the time we got to

547
00:29:44.160 --> 00:29:46.720
school it was like seven thirty, so we had like

548
00:29:46.799 --> 00:29:53.440
a two hour bus ride sometimes. And I remember pitch black, darkest, darkest.

549
00:29:53.119 --> 00:29:55.720
Can be big for society. Who will be right back

550
00:29:55.839 --> 00:29:56.839
after these messages?

551
00:30:12.920 --> 00:30:17.759
And we were not walking down that gravel road. We

552
00:30:17.880 --> 00:30:20.839
were running down that gravel road. And there every times

553
00:30:21.200 --> 00:30:25.079
where we knew and we heard something pacing us on

554
00:30:25.240 --> 00:30:28.160
either side of us until we got up to where

555
00:30:28.160 --> 00:30:29.880
the edge of that light was. As soon as we

556
00:30:30.039 --> 00:30:32.240
walked into how that where that light shigne was from

557
00:30:32.279 --> 00:30:37.279
that street light, that's when they stopped and then we'd

558
00:30:37.279 --> 00:30:41.119
get on the bus. So yeah, but we only stayed

559
00:30:41.160 --> 00:30:44.039
in that property for about a year, maybe a little

560
00:30:44.079 --> 00:30:45.759
over a year. My dad had been involved in a

561
00:30:45.880 --> 00:30:49.000
very really, really bad car accident. He was almost killed,

562
00:30:50.039 --> 00:30:53.519
so we had to move back to Tacoma and move

563
00:30:53.559 --> 00:30:57.119
in with my aunt and uncle. And it was almost

564
00:30:57.200 --> 00:30:59.000
a full year by the time we went back out

565
00:30:59.039 --> 00:31:02.200
to that property. You know, everything was all locked up

566
00:31:02.279 --> 00:31:04.960
and stuff. And when we went there just to grab

567
00:31:05.200 --> 00:31:09.279
the rest of our stuff, because it was in October

568
00:31:09.319 --> 00:31:11.039
that my dad had that accident, so it was probably

569
00:31:11.079 --> 00:31:12.480
not in not a year, I'm sorry, not a year.

570
00:31:12.480 --> 00:31:17.640
It's probably that next spring. I walked around the camper

571
00:31:19.119 --> 00:31:21.160
and it looked like something was looking even how you

572
00:31:21.359 --> 00:31:25.440
cut your hands over your eyes on the side of

573
00:31:25.480 --> 00:31:27.960
your eyes to try to look into something. Yeah, it

574
00:31:28.039 --> 00:31:30.960
looks like on every single one of the windows you

575
00:31:31.119 --> 00:31:33.480
saw that print and you could see where like a

576
00:31:33.599 --> 00:31:36.079
nose was pushed up against like something was trying to

577
00:31:36.119 --> 00:31:39.599
look in the windows, and especially the windows where my

578
00:31:39.680 --> 00:31:42.359
brother and ie beds were, because that was a good

579
00:31:43.799 --> 00:31:47.240
maybe seven feet off the ground and there's eyes looking

580
00:31:47.519 --> 00:31:49.759
and trying to look through the curtain that was there.

581
00:31:49.960 --> 00:31:53.599
But every window had multiple like prints like that.

582
00:31:54.799 --> 00:32:00.880
So but yeah, that was yeah, that was in the

583
00:32:01.319 --> 00:32:04.359
early to mid eighties. You were saying eighty.

584
00:32:04.119 --> 00:32:06.440
Four, right, yeah, early, yeah, yeah, eighty four.

585
00:32:07.000 --> 00:32:12.240
Did I at any point did your dad ever try

586
00:32:12.279 --> 00:32:14.519
to talk to the cops about what was going on?

587
00:32:14.759 --> 00:32:17.440
Or is kind of like we can handle it ourselves.

588
00:32:17.119 --> 00:32:20.599
Or well, seems like I said, my dad was raised

589
00:32:20.599 --> 00:32:24.160
in Alaska, so my dad's head had encountered with things

590
00:32:24.200 --> 00:32:26.720
up in Alaska. To the day that he died. He

591
00:32:26.880 --> 00:32:29.000
still swears, you know, he swore to the day that

592
00:32:29.079 --> 00:32:32.279
he died that he saw werewolf. My dad encountered the

593
00:32:32.359 --> 00:32:36.880
Kushta Kaye on two occasions while he was up in Alaska.

594
00:32:37.559 --> 00:32:40.240
So my dad, you know, my dad believed, you know

595
00:32:40.359 --> 00:32:43.480
that as long as we weren't doing anything aggressive or

596
00:32:43.519 --> 00:32:47.480
we weren't doing anything disrespectful, that they wouldn't really mess

597
00:32:47.519 --> 00:32:49.240
with this. And there was times when my dad would

598
00:32:49.279 --> 00:32:51.559
put other things up like smoke salmon. He'd put that

599
00:32:52.000 --> 00:32:55.079
up there, and he'd always do the same thing. He'd

600
00:32:55.079 --> 00:32:57.640
always grease that pole so nothing else can climb up

601
00:32:57.640 --> 00:33:00.519
that pole and get it, and it'd be gone. And

602
00:33:00.559 --> 00:33:04.000
there'd be times where we'd have like, well, my brother

603
00:33:04.079 --> 00:33:06.640
found a dad squirrel sitting up there. There would be

604
00:33:06.720 --> 00:33:10.160
times where we'd have like rocks up there, or a marble.

605
00:33:10.279 --> 00:33:14.279
There's a marble up there for some reason. So berries,

606
00:33:14.839 --> 00:33:19.759
there'd be huckleberries up there, blackberries, raspberries, Yeah, just sitting

607
00:33:19.839 --> 00:33:21.599
up there. Wow.

608
00:33:21.920 --> 00:33:24.880
So there was maybe a little bit of a gifting

609
00:33:25.000 --> 00:33:26.960
situation going on there in a way.

610
00:33:28.279 --> 00:33:31.319
Yeah, probably if my brother said at times he'd thrown

611
00:33:31.480 --> 00:33:34.359
like a ball because he knew they were sitting he

612
00:33:34.440 --> 00:33:37.519
knew the juveniles were sitting out in the woods watching us.

613
00:33:38.000 --> 00:33:39.559
So my brother would be out there goofing off and

614
00:33:39.640 --> 00:33:41.799
he would live on purpose throw a ball out there

615
00:33:42.839 --> 00:33:47.680
and we'd never see it again, never see it again.

616
00:33:48.519 --> 00:33:51.400
Oh I bet not. You would definitely not see it again.

617
00:33:51.519 --> 00:33:53.759
Did you ever talk to your dad about this when

618
00:33:53.799 --> 00:33:55.680
you were an adult or when you were older?

619
00:33:56.880 --> 00:34:02.880
Oh? Yeah, oh see this, this is this is the

620
00:34:02.920 --> 00:34:08.519
thing with my dad, my dad, my dad believe my

621
00:34:08.679 --> 00:34:11.840
dad know, my dad knew, I mean, and we would

622
00:34:11.880 --> 00:34:13.880
talk about it and it would be the same thing.

623
00:34:14.039 --> 00:34:16.960
You know, Daniel, you know, you know what you saw,

624
00:34:18.679 --> 00:34:22.639
you know what you saw, you know. And and then

625
00:34:22.679 --> 00:34:26.039
I got to asking him because you know, I start

626
00:34:26.159 --> 00:34:30.400
having these these memories also had come back to me

627
00:34:30.480 --> 00:34:34.679
and stuff, and I remember like when I was like seven,

628
00:34:35.639 --> 00:34:39.639
seven or eight, my dad, my dad loved the hunt

629
00:34:40.239 --> 00:34:43.159
and there was this place up around I want to

630
00:34:43.199 --> 00:34:50.159
say north northeast of Aberdeen and we called it the

631
00:34:50.320 --> 00:34:53.559
hunting camp. Right. Well, my dad we went to this

632
00:34:53.719 --> 00:34:58.880
hunting camp and we went and we weren't hunting. Well

633
00:34:58.920 --> 00:35:02.000
I wasn't hunting, my dad was hunting. And he goes,

634
00:35:02.039 --> 00:35:03.679
you want to go hunt with me? And I'm like sure.

635
00:35:03.800 --> 00:35:05.719
He goes, well, we got to get up early. We're

636
00:35:05.719 --> 00:35:07.440
gonna sit in the deer stand, and I'm like, okay,

637
00:35:07.880 --> 00:35:09.559
And that was unusual for my dad. So my dad

638
00:35:09.639 --> 00:35:12.719
never really hunted from a deer stand. He'd always be

639
00:35:12.840 --> 00:35:15.159
on the ground and he would normally track, you know,

640
00:35:15.920 --> 00:35:19.480
what he wanted to hunt and then do what, you know,

641
00:35:19.599 --> 00:35:22.440
do what he did. And I remember we went up

642
00:35:23.199 --> 00:35:27.119
had camp. The next day we went out and he goes,

643
00:35:27.159 --> 00:35:29.000
he come up in this, you know, come up here.

644
00:35:29.079 --> 00:35:32.039
This is our deer stand. And the deer stand overlooked

645
00:35:32.039 --> 00:35:34.880
this trail, but there was also a couple of game

646
00:35:34.920 --> 00:35:37.360
trails that came that came off of it went underneath

647
00:35:37.639 --> 00:35:40.960
the deer stand and then up into the woods behind

648
00:35:41.039 --> 00:35:46.599
the deer stand, and my dad goes at you know,

649
00:35:46.760 --> 00:35:49.800
at night there they come out of the woods from here,

650
00:35:50.760 --> 00:35:52.280
they do what they do down here, and then when

651
00:35:52.320 --> 00:35:54.119
it starts getting light again, they're going to come back

652
00:35:54.199 --> 00:35:56.760
up this path, this deer you know, this this this

653
00:35:57.000 --> 00:36:01.239
animal path or whatever, and they'll go back up into

654
00:36:01.239 --> 00:36:03.159
the woods and they'll bed down for the day because

655
00:36:03.199 --> 00:36:04.960
then they know people were out and about. They don't

656
00:36:05.119 --> 00:36:09.239
you know, that's where they're gonna lay low. Because I

657
00:36:09.320 --> 00:36:11.039
had asked him, why are we not looking at the woods,

658
00:36:11.119 --> 00:36:13.960
he goes, and he gave me that reason. So he

659
00:36:14.079 --> 00:36:15.880
gets me up in the deer stand. You know, we

660
00:36:16.079 --> 00:36:18.840
have a picks his rifle, hoists his rifle up with

661
00:36:19.039 --> 00:36:20.880
with a rope and we're sitting up in there, and

662
00:36:21.239 --> 00:36:23.519
it was it was a homemade deer stands big enough

663
00:36:23.519 --> 00:36:27.880
for two people. And my dad starts looking through his

664
00:36:28.199 --> 00:36:30.880
little back his little napsacks, a little backpack. He's like, oh,

665
00:36:31.440 --> 00:36:37.199
I forgot something. We were baby, I don't know, half

666
00:36:37.239 --> 00:36:40.639
a mile away from the camp and he's like, stay here,

667
00:36:41.599 --> 00:36:44.880
it'll be fine. I'm gonna run down to the camp

668
00:36:45.400 --> 00:36:47.360
get what I need and I'll be right back up.

669
00:36:48.000 --> 00:36:50.159
I'm like, okay, no big deal. I'm like seven, eight

670
00:36:50.239 --> 00:36:52.559
years old. I'm not scared of anything. I'm not worried

671
00:36:52.559 --> 00:36:58.800
about anything. Right, So even in later life, I did

672
00:36:58.880 --> 00:37:02.559
this when I went hunting. I started dozing off. Now

673
00:37:02.559 --> 00:37:06.239
I'm getting comfortable and I've got my left leg stretched

674
00:37:06.280 --> 00:37:08.760
out and it's kind of hanging off to the side

675
00:37:08.800 --> 00:37:12.280
a little bit of the deer stand, and I feel

676
00:37:12.360 --> 00:37:16.000
this tug on my boot and it kind of kind

677
00:37:16.039 --> 00:37:18.320
of wakes me up. And it's not quite light yet,

678
00:37:19.119 --> 00:37:24.079
and so I look and my boot's untied and I'm

679
00:37:24.119 --> 00:37:28.920
looking around, and I'm like, oh man, I must have twitched,

680
00:37:28.960 --> 00:37:31.119
and you know what, my dad might be messing with me.

681
00:37:31.760 --> 00:37:34.280
So I reached down, I tie my boot up again,

682
00:37:35.360 --> 00:37:37.400
and I'm watching, you know, looking around. All sudden I

683
00:37:37.440 --> 00:37:41.199
start nodding off again, and just as I get ready off, boom,

684
00:37:41.239 --> 00:37:45.000
I feel my tug on my boot again, and I

685
00:37:45.079 --> 00:37:47.320
look down and my boots untied again, and I'm like, Dad,

686
00:37:47.440 --> 00:37:50.480
knock it off, you know. And so I go and

687
00:37:50.519 --> 00:37:53.800
I go and I tie my boot up again, and

688
00:37:53.880 --> 00:37:55.920
now this time I'm watching my boot. I'm like, Okay,

689
00:37:55.920 --> 00:37:57.679
I'm gonna see if it's my dad messed with me,

690
00:37:57.719 --> 00:37:59.840
because maybe, you know, he saw me nod no or not,

691
00:38:00.079 --> 00:38:02.599
saw me sleep and he snuck up and now he's

692
00:38:02.639 --> 00:38:06.400
messing with me. Well, hear this noise off to the

693
00:38:06.519 --> 00:38:08.760
right of me, and when I look over to see

694
00:38:08.800 --> 00:38:11.760
what it was, and I'm looking, I fear fill an

695
00:38:11.760 --> 00:38:15.079
out tug at my boot and my boot is untied,

696
00:38:16.039 --> 00:38:19.880
and now I'm I'm mad, but I'm also I'm scared.

697
00:38:21.280 --> 00:38:23.880
And about that time, I see my dad walking up

698
00:38:24.119 --> 00:38:27.360
the path and I'm my dad, real funny, real funny.

699
00:38:27.400 --> 00:38:29.159
He's like, what are you talking about. I go, Dad,

700
00:38:29.199 --> 00:38:32.039
you'll tied my boot. He's like, son, I didn't untie

701
00:38:32.079 --> 00:38:34.760
your boot. I go, Dad, you dig you'll tie my boot?

702
00:38:34.840 --> 00:38:39.760
Three times? And he's like, son, I'm coming up from

703
00:38:39.800 --> 00:38:43.519
the camp. There's no way in this whole thing transpired

704
00:38:43.559 --> 00:38:48.239
about thirty forty five minutes maybe tops right, And I'm like, Dad,

705
00:38:48.239 --> 00:38:49.880
you untie my boot. I know you did. I know

706
00:38:49.920 --> 00:38:53.440
it was you. You snuck around. He goes, son, I didn't,

707
00:38:53.440 --> 00:38:55.719
I go, Dad, you just untied it. You made a noise.

708
00:38:56.360 --> 00:38:59.639
He goes where I go over there, and so he's okay,

709
00:38:59.760 --> 00:39:03.119
he's stay put. So he goes and he starts looking

710
00:39:03.159 --> 00:39:06.800
around and I'm watching him. He's doing like a circle pattern,

711
00:39:07.159 --> 00:39:09.519
like a search. And he gets up to the woods

712
00:39:09.599 --> 00:39:12.320
behind the stand and he kneels down. He looks at something,

713
00:39:13.199 --> 00:39:15.559
and then I see my dad immediately take his rifle

714
00:39:15.599 --> 00:39:17.800
and put his rifle to ready. He like grabs his

715
00:39:19.159 --> 00:39:22.119
strap and he pulls it and tied into his shoulder.

716
00:39:23.000 --> 00:39:25.199
And my dad's a Vietnam Vet. My dad was a hunter,

717
00:39:25.280 --> 00:39:27.800
first Airborne. He was an EOD specialist. He was a

718
00:39:27.840 --> 00:39:30.760
tunnel rat, did a lot of point, you know, walking

719
00:39:30.800 --> 00:39:32.559
point when they were on patrol. So my dad was

720
00:39:32.760 --> 00:39:37.039
very very observative things, just super super observant of everything

721
00:39:37.079 --> 00:39:40.800
around him. And I see him bring his rifle to

722
00:39:40.880 --> 00:39:43.679
the ready and now he's scanning left or right and

723
00:39:43.760 --> 00:39:45.880
then back right to left, and he's like, he's like,

724
00:39:46.119 --> 00:39:48.760
he's like, Daniel, get out of the tree right now,

725
00:39:48.840 --> 00:39:50.920
get out of the stand and head back down towards

726
00:39:50.960 --> 00:39:53.039
the camp right now. I'm my dad was going on.

727
00:39:53.119 --> 00:39:55.000
He's like, just go do it now. He's I look

728
00:39:55.039 --> 00:39:57.639
real quick and he's backing up, but he's still facing

729
00:39:57.679 --> 00:40:00.840
the tree line and he goes, just go. He goes,

730
00:40:00.880 --> 00:40:03.239
I'll be right behind you, and he goes, don't walk,

731
00:40:03.360 --> 00:40:06.079
you need to run run down to the camp. So

732
00:40:06.199 --> 00:40:09.039
I'm with everything I got, I'm a hauling button back

733
00:40:09.119 --> 00:40:12.360
down and I stop every so often, and I see

734
00:40:12.360 --> 00:40:14.480
my dad he's coming back. He'd run, he'd stop and

735
00:40:14.559 --> 00:40:16.639
turn around, he'd scan and he take off runt and

736
00:40:16.639 --> 00:40:18.920
he's like, just go go go. Well, we get into

737
00:40:18.960 --> 00:40:20.840
the camp and we see my uncle come out of

738
00:40:20.920 --> 00:40:24.039
the tent and he's like, Darryl. He goes, what are

739
00:40:24.079 --> 00:40:26.559
you doing? He's like, what do you mean? He goes,

740
00:40:26.679 --> 00:40:28.599
why are you messing with danielized up in the stand.

741
00:40:28.639 --> 00:40:29.960
He's like, I don't really talk about it. I just

742
00:40:30.039 --> 00:40:33.519
came back from my stand. He goes. He goes, it's

743
00:40:33.559 --> 00:40:36.239
getting too warm out here. You know, nothing, nothing's going

744
00:40:36.320 --> 00:40:39.840
to be nothing's going to be moving around. So so

745
00:40:40.079 --> 00:40:41.639
he's like, okay, well we just need to go. So

746
00:40:41.719 --> 00:40:44.679
they packed up, they packed up the camp and we left.

747
00:40:45.400 --> 00:40:47.000
Now to get to this camp, you had to drive

748
00:40:47.079 --> 00:40:49.079
like an hour and a half two hours, and he

749
00:40:49.159 --> 00:40:51.679
had to hike in for like about another hour, I

750
00:40:51.760 --> 00:40:54.599
want to say. And the second time we went to

751
00:40:54.679 --> 00:40:58.360
the camp, we had my dad, my uncle who's also

752
00:40:58.480 --> 00:41:02.360
Vietnam VET, his neighbor or friend named Frenchie, who was

753
00:41:02.360 --> 00:41:05.800
also a Vietnam Vet, two of his neighbors, so he

754
00:41:05.880 --> 00:41:08.400
had five adults, and he had me and my brother,

755
00:41:08.639 --> 00:41:11.599
and then each one of the neighbors brought one of

756
00:41:11.639 --> 00:41:13.880
their sons, so you had four kids and five adults.

757
00:41:14.000 --> 00:41:16.559
We had this giant canvas tent I was go an

758
00:41:16.679 --> 00:41:20.039
army tent that you could sleep like ten fifteen people

759
00:41:20.159 --> 00:41:24.119
in comfortably, and normally you'd have like a like a

760
00:41:24.119 --> 00:41:26.639
little woodbirding stove in the middle of this. That's how

761
00:41:26.719 --> 00:41:30.239
big this tent was. You had to bring everything in

762
00:41:30.360 --> 00:41:33.760
on like deer sleds or whatever. So everybody was carrying

763
00:41:33.840 --> 00:41:36.960
backpacks whatever they could. The kids didn't really carry a lot.

764
00:41:37.360 --> 00:41:39.480
The adults pulled all these you know, these sleds. They

765
00:41:39.480 --> 00:41:41.920
had everything packed on. They're real neat went in there,

766
00:41:42.000 --> 00:41:44.360
set everything up. You know. My uncle was like, hey,

767
00:41:44.400 --> 00:41:46.360
who wants to use some fishing? You know, we were

768
00:41:46.400 --> 00:41:48.119
fishing down in the stream that was close to the

769
00:41:48.199 --> 00:41:50.280
hunting camp. You could see, you know, it was like

770
00:41:50.320 --> 00:41:52.880
a rocky kind of like a small pebble, but sandy

771
00:41:53.480 --> 00:41:57.239
like beach, and the the part of the stream was

772
00:41:57.320 --> 00:42:00.199
right in front was really slow movie. So it was

773
00:42:00.199 --> 00:42:02.519
a good place to go swimming or fishing if you

774
00:42:02.599 --> 00:42:05.079
wanted to. My uncle say, hed he wanted to shoot

775
00:42:05.119 --> 00:42:08.119
shoot some guns. That's where I first shot a Rugo

776
00:42:08.239 --> 00:42:10.639
Super black Hawk forty four magnum. I was nine years

777
00:42:10.639 --> 00:42:13.159
old when that happened. It took us about fifteen minutes

778
00:42:13.199 --> 00:42:15.000
to find the gun because it flipped over my head

779
00:42:15.039 --> 00:42:18.679
when I shot it. Amazing time. They were shooting twenty

780
00:42:18.760 --> 00:42:21.280
twos and just having a good time. But when we

781
00:42:21.320 --> 00:42:25.760
shot the twenty two's, we heard this loud like yell,

782
00:42:26.320 --> 00:42:28.760
like I thought it was like a bear roar way

783
00:42:28.960 --> 00:42:32.400
off in the distance right, and didn't think anything of it. So,

784
00:42:32.559 --> 00:42:34.440
you know, we caught fish, we ate, you know, we

785
00:42:34.519 --> 00:42:38.639
cleaned up all of our food stuffs were in bags

786
00:42:38.679 --> 00:42:42.119
and hanging up in a tree, probably about fifteen feet

787
00:42:42.199 --> 00:42:45.119
up into a tree over a limb. And you know,

788
00:42:45.400 --> 00:42:47.480
my dad had my uncle and my dad had tied

789
00:42:47.559 --> 00:42:50.639
him off real well. And my uncle was a in

790
00:42:50.800 --> 00:42:54.400
the navy and he rode on those patrol boats up

791
00:42:54.440 --> 00:42:58.679
and down the Macon Delta. He was like the front gunner.

792
00:42:58.760 --> 00:43:02.199
So they had like twin fifty cows or twin sixties

793
00:43:02.280 --> 00:43:05.039
or something, so that's what his his job was. So

794
00:43:05.119 --> 00:43:07.880
again this is another person who's really really observant, has

795
00:43:07.920 --> 00:43:10.199
to keen eye looking for stuff. French. She was a psycho,

796
00:43:10.320 --> 00:43:13.440
but he was also a Vietnam vett. And these guys,

797
00:43:14.320 --> 00:43:16.880
we had three bona fide warriors with us. We didn't

798
00:43:16.920 --> 00:43:19.800
really worry about nothing. So the first night everything went by,

799
00:43:20.000 --> 00:43:23.320
you know, pretty cool, no big deal. Hurt some something

800
00:43:23.400 --> 00:43:26.719
moving around around the camp and we're like, you know,

801
00:43:27.719 --> 00:43:29.639
what was that. I'm thinking it's a bear, No big deal.

802
00:43:30.440 --> 00:43:33.119
Second day goes out, you know, they see some tracks

803
00:43:33.119 --> 00:43:35.199
and stuff I see him talking about. I'm not thinking

804
00:43:35.239 --> 00:43:37.039
anything about I think what I see their bear tracks,

805
00:43:37.119 --> 00:43:40.119
No big deal. So, you know, we're goofing off again

806
00:43:40.199 --> 00:43:42.199
the next you know that that second day we're supposed

807
00:43:42.199 --> 00:43:43.559
to be outre for like four or five days. We're

808
00:43:43.559 --> 00:43:46.920
out there goofing off, fish and swimming, shooting bb you know,

809
00:43:47.079 --> 00:43:50.599
twenty twos again. And this time my dad and my

810
00:43:50.760 --> 00:43:53.079
uncle they split us up and they wanted to just

811
00:43:53.239 --> 00:43:55.719
show us the land. Hey, you know, if you guys

812
00:43:55.760 --> 00:43:58.320
ever lost, you find something like this, you know you

813
00:43:58.400 --> 00:44:00.079
can do this with it. You can do here, or

814
00:44:00.079 --> 00:44:01.840
if you get lost, you stay put where you are,

815
00:44:02.000 --> 00:44:03.519
you know you can use this to make a noise.

816
00:44:03.719 --> 00:44:06.159
They're they're trying to show some type of survivals. They

817
00:44:06.199 --> 00:44:07.519
want us to have a good time, but they want

818
00:44:07.599 --> 00:44:12.119
us to learn something. And so a second day we're shooting.

819
00:44:12.159 --> 00:44:15.000
We're shooting again, and this time we hear not like

820
00:44:15.079 --> 00:44:17.880
a bear roar, but we hear like a howl, but

821
00:44:18.599 --> 00:44:21.519
like with a scream attached to it. And it was

822
00:44:21.679 --> 00:44:24.440
closer this time. It wasn't often it is that this

823
00:44:24.599 --> 00:44:30.840
is closer. So I noticed the adults looking around and

824
00:44:31.119 --> 00:44:32.639
they're like, hey, you guys are getting late. You know,

825
00:44:32.719 --> 00:44:35.679
let's have some dinner. So we ate some dinner again,

826
00:44:35.800 --> 00:44:40.000
cleaned up, put everything up, and we're laying down. And

827
00:44:41.199 --> 00:44:48.559
how we all slept was the two neighbors and Frenchy

828
00:44:48.679 --> 00:44:51.599
were sleeping. If you're looking directly at the tent, they're

829
00:44:51.599 --> 00:44:54.480
sleeping on the left hand side of the tent, and

830
00:44:54.880 --> 00:44:57.639
the two neighbors, the two neighbors their sons are sleeping

831
00:44:57.719 --> 00:45:01.079
with them. And then it's me. It's my dad, me,

832
00:45:02.000 --> 00:45:04.960
my brother, and my uncle on the other side on

833
00:45:05.000 --> 00:45:10.599
the right hand side. And now we hear a lot

834
00:45:10.679 --> 00:45:16.599
of movement outside. We hear footsteps, we hear scuffling. We

835
00:45:16.719 --> 00:45:19.639
hear something getting into some of the stuff that we

836
00:45:19.760 --> 00:45:22.119
have left out. It's nothing like food or anything. It's

837
00:45:22.159 --> 00:45:26.960
just like pans and and you know, chairs or whatnot.

838
00:45:26.960 --> 00:45:29.760
And the stuff's moving around. We hear like like murmuring,

839
00:45:29.840 --> 00:45:35.360
like a you know, something like like talking. And then

840
00:45:35.400 --> 00:45:37.639
we hear something and I can fill it with each

841
00:45:37.719 --> 00:45:43.159
step walking around the tent. And when I look up,

842
00:45:43.719 --> 00:45:46.440
I see my dad as wide awake, and he's got

843
00:45:46.480 --> 00:45:50.760
his rifle. He had had Marlon Lever Action thirty thirty rifle.

844
00:45:52.320 --> 00:45:55.199
Frenchie was up. The other two guys were up, and

845
00:45:55.320 --> 00:45:57.920
my uncle were up, and they were all carrying either

846
00:45:57.960 --> 00:46:03.000
I had a handgun, cal handgun or a rifle. And

847
00:46:04.039 --> 00:46:07.960
I'm watching my dad and my dad is following whatever's

848
00:46:08.039 --> 00:46:11.119
walking around the tent as he's as he's going by,

849
00:46:11.559 --> 00:46:14.679
he's following it with his with his rifle. Frenching and

850
00:46:14.760 --> 00:46:16.760
my uncle are sitting in the middle of the tent,

851
00:46:17.400 --> 00:46:19.800
one's face in the front flap and one's face in

852
00:46:19.880 --> 00:46:22.039
the back flap, and if anything was going to come

853
00:46:22.079 --> 00:46:23.960
through that they were in trouble because those two were

854
00:46:24.039 --> 00:46:24.880
unloaded on them.

855
00:46:24.840 --> 00:46:27.440
Right big for society who would be right back after

856
00:46:27.559 --> 00:46:28.280
these messages.

857
00:46:45.559 --> 00:46:48.639
The other boys are sleeping, and I'm wondering what's going on,

858
00:46:49.199 --> 00:46:51.119
So I go to ask my dad a question. I'm

859
00:46:51.159 --> 00:46:53.280
trying to whisper to him, and about that time I

860
00:46:53.400 --> 00:46:56.400
hear something run by. But as it ran by, it

861
00:46:56.599 --> 00:47:05.199
sounded like claws raked across the whole side of the

862
00:47:05.280 --> 00:47:08.360
canvas tent and then over on the other side of

863
00:47:08.360 --> 00:47:10.519
the campas tip like. So it ran around, holding his

864
00:47:10.880 --> 00:47:14.119
left arm out and his hand out and just raking

865
00:47:14.199 --> 00:47:17.360
its claws all the way around the tent. And then

866
00:47:17.400 --> 00:47:20.199
after it did that. It was silent, like there was

867
00:47:20.440 --> 00:47:25.199
nothing else going on. It just got as silent as

868
00:47:25.239 --> 00:47:30.800
a morgue again. I could. I'm doing everything I can

869
00:47:30.920 --> 00:47:33.440
not to start screaming. My dad is holding me. He's

870
00:47:33.480 --> 00:47:36.039
got his hand over my mouth, so I wouldn't scream.

871
00:47:38.159 --> 00:47:39.840
I didn't go to sleep. For the rest of the night,

872
00:47:40.719 --> 00:47:43.400
it seemed like it was forever until sunlight came out.

873
00:47:44.559 --> 00:47:48.920
Birds started chirping. I watched Frenchie and my dad and

874
00:47:48.960 --> 00:47:51.199
my uncle or my French she and my uncle and

875
00:47:51.280 --> 00:47:54.599
the other two guys leave, and all of a sudden,

876
00:47:54.599 --> 00:47:56.960
I hear my uncle Odean, you gotta come out here

877
00:47:57.000 --> 00:48:00.800
and see this. And I beat my dad outside the

878
00:48:00.880 --> 00:48:03.639
tent because if my dad has gets to see something cool,

879
00:48:03.679 --> 00:48:06.239
I want to see something cool, right. So I go

880
00:48:06.440 --> 00:48:11.119
running out and our food bags, there are three of them.

881
00:48:11.920 --> 00:48:17.000
They were all taken out of the tree. They were open,

882
00:48:17.719 --> 00:48:24.280
and anything that was not a can was gone completely gone.

883
00:48:25.440 --> 00:48:29.119
Chairs were messed up. We found stuff down by the river.

884
00:48:30.079 --> 00:48:35.159
Now I'm seeing giant like human sized footprints, probably seventeen

885
00:48:35.280 --> 00:48:41.159
eighteen nineteen inches long, all over the place, and my

886
00:48:41.239 --> 00:48:44.159
Dad's like, let's go get the boys up. Let's pack up.

887
00:48:44.320 --> 00:48:47.840
We're getting out of here. So as we're getting everything ready,

888
00:48:48.599 --> 00:48:52.960
we hear this scream that came maybe one hundred and

889
00:48:53.000 --> 00:48:55.840
fifty two hundred yards from the side one of the sides.

890
00:48:56.000 --> 00:48:58.639
If I'm thinking, if I remember the right hand side

891
00:48:58.719 --> 00:49:01.800
north southeast west, I couldn't. If I'm looking at the

892
00:49:02.039 --> 00:49:04.800
at the lake or at the stream, it's to our

893
00:49:04.880 --> 00:49:07.599
right hand side, the side where the tent is. It's

894
00:49:07.639 --> 00:49:09.719
like about one hundred and fifty two hundred yards away,

895
00:49:09.719 --> 00:49:12.119
and it is low, and you feel it come through

896
00:49:12.119 --> 00:49:17.280
the trees the scream. No one bothered to pack anything

897
00:49:17.360 --> 00:49:23.599
up neatly. They just threw things on the sleds. People

898
00:49:23.639 --> 00:49:26.320
were grabbing packs that didn't belong to them. And now

899
00:49:26.400 --> 00:49:29.960
we're running, we're taking off. We're going back up again.

900
00:49:30.079 --> 00:49:34.360
This is like an hour hike to this camping spot,

901
00:49:34.440 --> 00:49:38.039
to where we parked our trucks. It was my dad's truck,

902
00:49:38.079 --> 00:49:46.360
my uncle's truck, and Frenchy's truck. And when we started

903
00:49:46.440 --> 00:49:51.199
taking off, it was Frenchy in the front, then the

904
00:49:51.280 --> 00:49:55.199
two dads, then the four kids, and then my uncle

905
00:49:55.280 --> 00:49:58.440
Darryl and my dad bringing up the rear. And as

906
00:49:58.519 --> 00:50:00.599
we're going they're like you guys got to go faster.

907
00:50:00.599 --> 00:50:02.599
You guys gotta go faster. Well, my little brother and

908
00:50:02.639 --> 00:50:06.519
one of the other boys were younger than us. They

909
00:50:06.760 --> 00:50:08.760
wound up getting put on one of the sleds and

910
00:50:09.480 --> 00:50:12.559
the two the two other adults are just pulling my brother,

911
00:50:13.800 --> 00:50:16.719
my brother, and one of their sons as fast as

912
00:50:16.760 --> 00:50:19.320
they can. I've got my little brother's backpack in the

913
00:50:19.400 --> 00:50:21.360
front of me. I've got my backpack on the back

914
00:50:21.400 --> 00:50:23.280
of me, and I'm running with everything I got. I

915
00:50:23.400 --> 00:50:25.880
think I'm carrying something else. I don't really recall what

916
00:50:25.960 --> 00:50:29.840
it was, but we're making crazy time. But now you

917
00:50:30.039 --> 00:50:32.880
hear something tearing through the trees, and you can't really

918
00:50:32.920 --> 00:50:35.360
see it, but you can hear. All of a sudden,

919
00:50:35.360 --> 00:50:38.280
I hear my dad. My dad yells, I've got one

920
00:50:38.360 --> 00:50:40.119
over here on the left, and then I hear my

921
00:50:40.239 --> 00:50:42.239
uncle say, I just saw one over here on the right.

922
00:50:43.239 --> 00:50:48.880
And these guys are Jeremiah. These are two Vietnam vets.

923
00:50:50.320 --> 00:50:53.519
I've seen two sides of my uncle and two sides

924
00:50:53.559 --> 00:50:55.840
of my dad. I've seen the Happy Go Lucky, the

925
00:50:55.960 --> 00:50:58.559
joy you know, the Joys, you know guys, the Jokers,

926
00:50:59.719 --> 00:51:05.119
And that day I saw Dead Series, I saw two

927
00:51:05.239 --> 00:51:09.679
guys that were ready to throw down and just inflict

928
00:51:09.800 --> 00:51:12.400
a massive amount of pain and damage on whatever was

929
00:51:12.440 --> 00:51:18.519
after they went right back to Vietnam, and they're like,

930
00:51:18.639 --> 00:51:22.039
move and we're running as fast as we can. Now

931
00:51:22.079 --> 00:51:25.320
they're not saying, you know, they're not saying what they're seeing.

932
00:51:25.320 --> 00:51:26.960
They're just saying, I've got one on the left, I

933
00:51:27.039 --> 00:51:30.400
got one on the right. We get running. We come

934
00:51:30.480 --> 00:51:32.679
up and I can see where we've got to go,

935
00:51:32.760 --> 00:51:34.599
up this little hill and then up to the street,

936
00:51:34.800 --> 00:51:39.079
up to the road. This is logging road. We go up.

937
00:51:40.760 --> 00:51:43.599
They're already throwing things and trucks as they go. Whatever

938
00:51:43.840 --> 00:51:46.639
truck is closest is getting something thrown into the back

939
00:51:46.679 --> 00:51:51.039
of it. My brother runs, he gets in the middle truck.

940
00:51:51.159 --> 00:51:53.760
I think it was my uncle's truck. I jump into

941
00:51:53.800 --> 00:51:57.360
the back of my dad's truck. Everybody is just jumping

942
00:51:57.400 --> 00:51:59.719
in the closest vehicle they can get into. That isn't

943
00:51:59.719 --> 00:52:04.639
all be full again the old you pull down the visor,

944
00:52:04.719 --> 00:52:07.119
the keys fall out. That's what was the scenario there.

945
00:52:07.519 --> 00:52:09.559
Guys are getting in the trucks, are starting them up.

946
00:52:09.960 --> 00:52:12.440
My uncle all of a sudden he just throws the

947
00:52:13.599 --> 00:52:16.960
sled that he had threw it up over. It almost

948
00:52:17.039 --> 00:52:19.039
landed on me. Because I'm in the bed of the truck.

949
00:52:19.599 --> 00:52:22.719
I see my dad run by. He gets in the

950
00:52:22.800 --> 00:52:24.639
bed of the truck that's in the middle, I believe

951
00:52:24.679 --> 00:52:27.679
my uncle's truck. My uncle Daryl jumps in the back

952
00:52:27.840 --> 00:52:31.239
of our truck, the truck that I'm in, and they

953
00:52:31.360 --> 00:52:33.519
just say go, go, go, and they start taking off

954
00:52:33.599 --> 00:52:36.719
and they are going like a bat out of hell.

955
00:52:36.760 --> 00:52:38.679
When I'm sorry to cuss, that's what they were doing.

956
00:52:39.239 --> 00:52:41.840
All of a sudden, my uncle just starts unmoving. Bang

957
00:52:42.199 --> 00:52:44.960
bang bang bang. He's got a lever action as well.

958
00:52:45.360 --> 00:52:48.320
My dad boom boom boom, he's just rocking and rolling.

959
00:52:48.960 --> 00:52:51.599
About that time, I look up and I see this

960
00:52:51.920 --> 00:52:55.199
branch that was or this stick or whatever, and it

961
00:52:55.320 --> 00:53:01.159
was probably eight feet long and maybe three inches around.

962
00:53:01.719 --> 00:53:05.400
It came selling from the woods through the air, and

963
00:53:05.519 --> 00:53:10.159
it almost hit the the front end of my dad's truck.

964
00:53:10.679 --> 00:53:12.719
It barely missed a front the front end of my

965
00:53:12.800 --> 00:53:16.800
dad's truck. And they we just gassed it and we

966
00:53:16.960 --> 00:53:18.199
never went back to the hunting camp.

967
00:53:20.679 --> 00:53:24.440
Holy macrel that and that. So that happened years before.

968
00:53:26.039 --> 00:53:30.599
Yeah, the other goodness, But again, I didn't really know

969
00:53:30.679 --> 00:53:32.360
what was. I didn't know what it was. I didn't

970
00:53:32.440 --> 00:53:36.079
know that could have been a And again, to this day,

971
00:53:36.159 --> 00:53:39.679
I'm still not saying what was messing with my boot

972
00:53:41.039 --> 00:53:42.960
and what placed us out of the woods. I'm not

973
00:53:43.159 --> 00:53:46.039
here to tell you that one was a big foot.

974
00:53:46.079 --> 00:53:49.480
I'm not because I didn't see it. I saw tracks,

975
00:53:51.400 --> 00:53:54.440
I heard noises. I've heard I've seen tracks and heard

976
00:53:54.519 --> 00:53:58.000
noises that if you look at any video on YouTube

977
00:53:58.039 --> 00:54:01.440
or listen to any podcast, it's all conclusive with what

978
00:54:02.000 --> 00:54:06.119
a sasquatch. But I didn't see it. I'm not saying

979
00:54:06.199 --> 00:54:06.880
that's what it is.

980
00:54:08.920 --> 00:54:11.920
And then when you were twelve, you actually saw it.

981
00:54:12.079 --> 00:54:14.199
I know what I saw exactly. I know what I saw.

982
00:54:15.199 --> 00:54:21.320
Oh my goodness, dude, So having a good I'm sure

983
00:54:21.400 --> 00:54:25.119
that you you've had this internal thought over the years.

984
00:54:26.920 --> 00:54:29.960
What do you think it is that we're looking at

985
00:54:30.760 --> 00:54:33.760
when we look at something like what you saw when

986
00:54:33.760 --> 00:54:38.199
you're twelve, do you think it's an animal or or

987
00:54:38.280 --> 00:54:40.880
some kind of human relative or.

988
00:54:42.679 --> 00:54:48.760
You know now that I mean now that I'm I'm

989
00:54:48.760 --> 00:54:53.719
a co host on a podcast, and I've researched so

990
00:54:53.920 --> 00:54:56.480
many stories that have heard so many stories and on

991
00:54:56.599 --> 00:54:58.400
my own before I was a co host on the

992
00:54:58.440 --> 00:55:05.639
podcast Searching and Watching Things. You know one my host

993
00:55:05.800 --> 00:55:11.360
Josh him and I completely disagree on what these things are.

994
00:55:12.280 --> 00:55:15.360
I know for a fact one in my heart that

995
00:55:15.480 --> 00:55:18.480
what I've seen in experience was one hundred percent flesh

996
00:55:18.559 --> 00:55:22.920
and blood. To put a label, is it type of

997
00:55:23.000 --> 00:55:29.159
a relic human? Is it an undiscovered you know, North

998
00:55:29.199 --> 00:55:34.400
American ape? I don't know. I want to tend more

999
00:55:35.079 --> 00:55:39.880
towards maybe a hybrid, maybe more of a relic humanoid

1000
00:55:40.000 --> 00:55:43.679
human because the intelligence is there. And I'm not saying

1001
00:55:43.760 --> 00:55:47.119
apes and chimps are not intelligent, because I mean, I mean,

1002
00:55:47.280 --> 00:55:52.039
it's it's been documented that chimpanzees will use weapons. Chimpanzees

1003
00:55:52.199 --> 00:55:55.559
use will use tools, you know, they use things to

1004
00:55:55.639 --> 00:55:59.199
manipulate certain things. So the intelligence is still there. With

1005
00:55:59.280 --> 00:56:03.440
a primate, I just really can't. I can't. It's in it,

1006
00:56:03.679 --> 00:56:06.239
It's in its own boss, really is it? Is it

1007
00:56:06.360 --> 00:56:08.800
off the same tree as a human? Maybe?

1008
00:56:10.159 --> 00:56:15.320
I don't know, Daniel one thing for sure. Whatever it is,

1009
00:56:15.719 --> 00:56:18.840
it's intense and it is very smart. And I've not

1010
00:56:19.119 --> 00:56:25.360
had a visual yet, but the screen, We've got a

1011
00:56:25.400 --> 00:56:28.880
big storm outside, the roar in the roar scream. I

1012
00:56:29.000 --> 00:56:32.920
experienced that in Oregon, way out in the woods. I

1013
00:56:33.360 --> 00:56:37.960
know what you're talking about. And dude, it's a smart animal.

1014
00:56:38.079 --> 00:56:42.280
Whatever it is, it's I personally think it's a some

1015
00:56:42.559 --> 00:56:45.480
kind of physical creature that can do a lot of

1016
00:56:45.519 --> 00:56:50.320
stuff that science can't explain yet, and who knows where

1017
00:56:50.360 --> 00:56:55.400
that's going to lead. Let's let's talk about Mysteries Unknown

1018
00:56:55.519 --> 00:56:59.559
for a little bit. Sure, so you're your co host

1019
00:56:59.599 --> 00:57:03.400
with John it's also a great dude, have there been

1020
00:57:04.239 --> 00:57:11.119
any really interesting accounts that you that come to mind

1021
00:57:11.159 --> 00:57:13.800
when you think of that? I mean, you've done multiple

1022
00:57:13.880 --> 00:57:17.280
episodes and you've got already quite a following over there.

1023
00:57:17.400 --> 00:57:21.920
It's a YouTube channel. Mystery is Unknown, And are there

1024
00:57:22.000 --> 00:57:26.159
any any accounts that that stick out to you among

1025
00:57:26.280 --> 00:57:27.960
the episodes that you've done so far?

1026
00:57:29.599 --> 00:57:32.400
You know, there there's there's actually quite a few that

1027
00:57:33.519 --> 00:57:36.559
read me dumbfounded, you know, And I won't say because

1028
00:57:36.559 --> 00:57:39.440
I never experienced it, And it's it's really odd that

1029
00:57:39.679 --> 00:57:42.360
you know, we're just picking up a lot of traffic

1030
00:57:42.480 --> 00:57:46.239
with dog Man right now, which I'll be honest with you,

1031
00:57:47.239 --> 00:57:50.039
I don't know what that is. I think I tend

1032
00:57:50.079 --> 00:57:52.000
to agree with the Josh. More about this is that

1033
00:57:52.079 --> 00:57:55.840
they're evil. They have no good intention. I've heard way

1034
00:57:55.960 --> 00:57:58.599
too many stories about them. I don't think i've ever

1035
00:57:58.719 --> 00:58:03.079
seen one. I've had an a which I can't I

1036
00:58:03.760 --> 00:58:07.079
can't roll it out. I was up in the up

1037
00:58:07.320 --> 00:58:10.679
in Michigan and my wife and I were coming home

1038
00:58:10.840 --> 00:58:15.000
and we were just we were just west of Escanaba,

1039
00:58:15.199 --> 00:58:20.719
like just hardly out of town, and it was probably

1040
00:58:20.800 --> 00:58:23.159
one or two in the morning, was super, super foggy,

1041
00:58:25.039 --> 00:58:30.199
and I turned my driving lights on, like my fog

1042
00:58:30.280 --> 00:58:34.400
lights on, and I see something moving from the right

1043
00:58:34.519 --> 00:58:38.320
side of the road, like not quick, just slowly walking

1044
00:58:38.400 --> 00:58:43.199
across the street. And I kind of slowed down and

1045
00:58:43.360 --> 00:58:49.320
my lights hit it, and Jeremiah, this was the biggest,

1046
00:58:51.639 --> 00:58:59.039
darkest wolf I have ever seen in my life. I

1047
00:58:59.239 --> 00:59:02.159
have never seen a wolf this big in my life.

1048
00:59:03.320 --> 00:59:06.000
If I would have driven, if i'd have drove, excuse,

1049
00:59:06.039 --> 00:59:08.239
I would have drove my truck up to this wolf.

1050
00:59:08.440 --> 00:59:10.840
And it just stood there and looked at me. It

1051
00:59:11.079 --> 00:59:14.199
very well could arrested its chin on the hood of

1052
00:59:14.320 --> 00:59:18.440
my truck. And I drive. I drive a four wheel

1053
00:59:18.519 --> 00:59:22.960
drive twenty fourteen Chevy S ten Crew cab Z seventy

1054
00:59:23.039 --> 00:59:27.800
one miles, all right, And there's no doubt in my

1055
00:59:27.960 --> 00:59:31.159
mind if if I would have pulled right to that wolf,

1056
00:59:31.719 --> 00:59:33.679
he would have put his chin up and rested his

1057
00:59:33.840 --> 00:59:38.440
chin and would have been looking right at me with

1058
00:59:38.599 --> 00:59:40.679
his with his with his head on the hood of

1059
00:59:40.719 --> 00:59:42.960
my truck. And then he just kind of stopped. So

1060
00:59:43.079 --> 00:59:46.719
I slowed down and I almost came to stop, and

1061
00:59:47.000 --> 00:59:50.480
he kind of just very slowly kind of slowed down,

1062
00:59:51.400 --> 00:59:54.239
and then he kind of looked at me and he

1063
00:59:54.360 --> 00:59:57.119
just kept walking straight, just kept walking to the left

1064
00:59:57.679 --> 00:59:59.760
and just kept his eye on me, and then just

1065
01:00:00.079 --> 01:00:03.639
peered off into the woods. Now I didn't think anything

1066
01:00:03.679 --> 01:00:08.119
about this, so I went on Google Maps, probably three

1067
01:00:08.199 --> 01:00:11.480
or four months ago, and I know exactly where I

1068
01:00:11.519 --> 01:00:18.760
saw this. I saw this wolf, and I looked at

1069
01:00:18.800 --> 01:00:21.840
the Google Maps, and I'll be darned if there was

1070
01:00:21.960 --> 01:00:25.800
not a cemetery where this thing was coming out of

1071
01:00:26.320 --> 01:00:31.719
Man and it just walked across the street and off

1072
01:00:31.760 --> 01:00:34.280
into the woods, and I couldn't get out of there

1073
01:00:34.320 --> 01:00:37.880
fast enough. So you ask me if there's anything any

1074
01:00:38.239 --> 01:00:42.639
any episodes that stand out, and it's our dog Man episodes.

1075
01:00:42.679 --> 01:00:45.639
I mean they are. We just had one recently posted

1076
01:00:45.760 --> 01:00:50.239
up there or this guy to this day, he shot

1077
01:00:50.400 --> 01:00:53.559
one that looked like a fox when he was out

1078
01:00:53.639 --> 01:00:57.960
hunting as a kid, and he said, he saw this fox,

1079
01:00:58.119 --> 01:01:01.639
he raised his rifle or his his shotgun, and in

1080
01:01:01.760 --> 01:01:06.320
his mind he heard don't and then he shot, and

1081
01:01:06.400 --> 01:01:08.000
then he heard shoot me.

1082
01:01:08.719 --> 01:01:11.480
Big for society will be right back after these messages.

1083
01:01:28.320 --> 01:01:36.000
WHOA. And he says, to this day, this dog man

1084
01:01:36.320 --> 01:01:41.519
is following him wherever he goes. This dog man has

1085
01:01:41.760 --> 01:01:45.840
has used mind speak, as he describes it, and has

1086
01:01:45.920 --> 01:01:50.039
told him when it is given the okay to do so,

1087
01:01:51.199 --> 01:01:55.719
it's going to kill him, the man said the dog

1088
01:01:55.800 --> 01:02:00.440
man man. The dog man told this guy, when I'm

1089
01:02:00.480 --> 01:02:03.480
given the okay, I'm going to kill you.

1090
01:02:11.280 --> 01:02:17.159
I'm bro that okay. One that that stuff freaks me out.

1091
01:02:17.679 --> 01:02:23.079
So the dog man stuff is freaky to me. That

1092
01:02:23.239 --> 01:02:26.880
mind speaks stuff to me is even more freaky because

1093
01:02:27.639 --> 01:02:33.679
here's the thing. Who's to say, you can't prove that

1094
01:02:33.800 --> 01:02:36.239
it's dog man or it's Bigfoot. And I know I'm

1095
01:02:36.239 --> 01:02:40.199
going to get flak for this, but it's like, dude,

1096
01:02:41.880 --> 01:02:47.159
I think, I think. I don't know what I think yet, Daniel,

1097
01:02:47.599 --> 01:02:51.960
I don't know. And that stuff scares me to death,

1098
01:02:52.360 --> 01:02:55.119
because what if it's not Bigfoot, what if it's not

1099
01:02:55.239 --> 01:02:57.079
dog Man, what if it's something else? You know what

1100
01:02:57.119 --> 01:02:57.400
I mean?

1101
01:03:00.079 --> 01:03:02.199
Stands out You're saying, well, let me ask you. Do

1102
01:03:02.239 --> 01:03:03.360
you believe an infrasound?

1103
01:03:04.280 --> 01:03:06.280
Yes, sir, I do.

1104
01:03:07.320 --> 01:03:09.760
I do as well. And I've been thinking about it

1105
01:03:09.840 --> 01:03:11.440
as i've been talking to you, and I'm gonna go

1106
01:03:11.519 --> 01:03:14.199
ahead and let you in on the last experience that

1107
01:03:14.320 --> 01:03:20.679
I had. All I'm gonna say is it happened in

1108
01:03:20.760 --> 01:03:26.320
Shelby County, Tennessee. It happened in ninety two. I was

1109
01:03:26.400 --> 01:03:30.840
home on leave from Germany. I'm an Air Force veteran.

1110
01:03:30.920 --> 01:03:37.400
I was Air Force Security Police officer. And my brother,

1111
01:03:40.320 --> 01:03:47.320
my brother, my brother was this is my best friend,

1112
01:03:48.000 --> 01:03:54.519
my absolute You know, you grow up and you have

1113
01:03:54.639 --> 01:03:56.800
friends and say, yeah, that guy's my best friend, or

1114
01:03:57.000 --> 01:04:01.159
I still haven't gotten over his death. And he passed

1115
01:04:01.159 --> 01:04:08.320
away in twenty sixteen. So he graduated high school in

1116
01:04:08.639 --> 01:04:13.960
ninety two, and our grandfather had just passed away, And

1117
01:04:14.079 --> 01:04:16.760
so I came home on a burnt sea leave and

1118
01:04:16.880 --> 01:04:18.880
I wanted to surprise him that I was coming home.

1119
01:04:21.199 --> 01:04:24.559
One thing we like to do, we loved just hanging

1120
01:04:24.599 --> 01:04:29.039
out with each other. It didn't matter. I'd get in

1121
01:04:29.119 --> 01:04:31.559
my car, he'd get in his car, you know, whichever

1122
01:04:31.639 --> 01:04:35.679
whoever wanted to drive, and we would just go. And

1123
01:04:35.800 --> 01:04:37.599
I'll tell you all over the South, him and I

1124
01:04:37.760 --> 01:04:41.559
We've been all over the South just to go out

1125
01:04:41.639 --> 01:04:45.800
and drive. Didn't matter. We'd pull inside the road and

1126
01:04:45.960 --> 01:04:49.280
we'd sleep. We'd have enough money, we'd get a little

1127
01:04:49.320 --> 01:04:51.519
small hotel room and we'd just rack out and then

1128
01:04:51.519 --> 01:04:53.480
we'd just go exploring around. It didn't matter. We'd be

1129
01:04:53.559 --> 01:04:56.360
gone sometimes for weekends at a time, you know, with he,

1130
01:04:56.559 --> 01:04:58.920
like on a Friday, we'd be home. On a Sunday night,

1131
01:05:01.559 --> 01:05:03.079
we want to go camp. And it's something we did

1132
01:05:03.119 --> 01:05:05.840
a lot when we were little. And he said, hey,

1133
01:05:05.920 --> 01:05:08.440
let's go to this one spot. I'm like, okay, yeah, sure,

1134
01:05:08.559 --> 01:05:11.639
not a problem. And the spot butts up against the

1135
01:05:11.679 --> 01:05:17.920
Mississippi River. So you know, we get a little packs

1136
01:05:18.039 --> 01:05:21.400
and you know, our canteens, and you know, we had

1137
01:05:21.480 --> 01:05:25.400
like our little two person tents. Now, you know, he

1138
01:05:25.599 --> 01:05:29.960
was a big boy, six one six ' two about

1139
01:05:30.000 --> 01:05:33.639
three point fifteen, you know, and I'm like five nine,

1140
01:05:33.880 --> 01:05:38.280
like one eighty and so a two man tent, you know,

1141
01:05:38.360 --> 01:05:41.840
wouldn't do. So we had this four man tent, which really,

1142
01:05:41.920 --> 01:05:43.639
with the size of both of us in there was

1143
01:05:43.719 --> 01:05:45.519
actually a two man tent. What do you think about

1144
01:05:45.559 --> 01:05:48.920
with our sleeping bags and stuff. So we were packing

1145
01:05:48.960 --> 01:05:53.360
pretty light. This was late May, early June, so we

1146
01:05:53.440 --> 01:05:55.199
were packing pretty light. We didn't really have to worry

1147
01:05:55.239 --> 01:05:58.760
about staying warm because you know, down south it's it

1148
01:05:58.840 --> 01:06:02.559
gets pretty warm. And so we go and we park.

1149
01:06:02.920 --> 01:06:05.280
There's like a visitor center there. So we go and park,

1150
01:06:06.559 --> 01:06:11.800
and he's driving his seventy six Lincoln Continental, baby blue

1151
01:06:11.840 --> 01:06:14.079
with a white top. He called it the stink and Lincoln.

1152
01:06:16.920 --> 01:06:21.320
Then we go and there's whereas we park, we start

1153
01:06:21.360 --> 01:06:23.840
walking down this road and there's a path that goes

1154
01:06:23.920 --> 01:06:26.559
off into the woods. So we take the path and

1155
01:06:26.639 --> 01:06:28.760
then he's like, well, hey, let's let's go this way.

1156
01:06:28.920 --> 01:06:31.039
Let's go off this path, and he goes, I know,

1157
01:06:31.119 --> 01:06:34.239
there's an area over here, further down, almost right on

1158
01:06:34.360 --> 01:06:36.920
the river. It's got a nice sandbar pretty close to it.

1159
01:06:37.039 --> 01:06:39.360
You know. I'm like, hey, yeah, let's go, let's do it.

1160
01:06:40.280 --> 01:06:44.039
So we take off and we're probably walking maybe about

1161
01:06:44.079 --> 01:06:47.079
an hour, and he's like, man, I gotta go to

1162
01:06:47.119 --> 01:06:50.800
the bathroom. And so he stops and he starts going

1163
01:06:50.800 --> 01:06:56.239
to the bathroom and I hear this whistle and I

1164
01:06:56.360 --> 01:06:58.960
going to ask hi if he heard that. He goes, man,

1165
01:06:59.079 --> 01:07:01.079
what are you whistling? He goes, what do you like?

1166
01:07:01.119 --> 01:07:04.119
Go bro, wasn't I didn't whistle? And so he finishes

1167
01:07:04.199 --> 01:07:06.559
up and we start going down and down towards again,

1168
01:07:06.599 --> 01:07:08.639
and also he just stops. He says, did you hear that?

1169
01:07:09.760 --> 01:07:11.800
And I go, I go, know, what, what what do

1170
01:07:11.840 --> 01:07:13.480
you mean? Did you hear that? And I go know,

1171
01:07:14.159 --> 01:07:18.639
and he goes, I hear someone walking. Now, if you

1172
01:07:18.920 --> 01:07:21.800
if spending time in the woods, you know what a

1173
01:07:21.880 --> 01:07:25.320
squirrel sounds like. You know, you know what a deer

1174
01:07:25.440 --> 01:07:28.079
sounds like. You know, you know what these sounds are.

1175
01:07:28.199 --> 01:07:30.119
You know what a four legged animal sounds like. You

1176
01:07:30.199 --> 01:07:32.920
know what a two legged person or animal sounds like.

1177
01:07:33.840 --> 01:07:39.480
And it's definitely bipedal. And he's like, man, I don't

1178
01:07:39.480 --> 01:07:41.280
have a good feeling. I let's get out of here.

1179
01:07:41.400 --> 01:07:43.679
Let's get out of here. I'm like, I'm like, okay,

1180
01:07:44.039 --> 01:07:46.639
you know, So we turn around, we started walking back

1181
01:07:46.679 --> 01:07:48.679
says man, we got to go now. It's gonna be

1182
01:07:48.760 --> 01:07:49.920
dark by the time we get back to the car.

1183
01:07:50.000 --> 01:07:52.800
So because let's just go. So we turn around, we

1184
01:07:52.840 --> 01:07:54.320
start heading back, and well, I got to go to

1185
01:07:54.360 --> 01:07:56.280
the bathroom. So I start to go to the bathroom

1186
01:07:57.519 --> 01:08:00.679
and I'm just getting ready to start and he, out

1187
01:08:00.719 --> 01:08:03.079
of nowhere just pulls me like out of the way,

1188
01:08:03.360 --> 01:08:08.039
and this stick or branch comes sailing through and hits

1189
01:08:08.119 --> 01:08:12.119
the tree right where my head would have been. And

1190
01:08:12.239 --> 01:08:13.880
he's like, dude, we gotta go. And he goes, I

1191
01:08:14.000 --> 01:08:15.559
just saw something, Like what do you mean? He goes,

1192
01:08:15.639 --> 01:08:17.520
he just saw something peek around from that tree over there,

1193
01:08:18.159 --> 01:08:20.239
and I'm like, let's go, man. So we start going

1194
01:08:21.720 --> 01:08:25.760
and we're huffinged and just out of nowhere, it's just

1195
01:08:25.840 --> 01:08:29.239
like he just like stops and he puts his hand

1196
01:08:29.279 --> 01:08:30.880
on a tree. He's like, man, I don't feel good,

1197
01:08:31.920 --> 01:08:35.119
and it almost buckled into his knees, Like he just

1198
01:08:35.600 --> 01:08:37.239
almost went to his knees, like, man, I don't feel

1199
01:08:37.239 --> 01:08:39.560
Guys to here, man, he get a drink of water. Here,

1200
01:08:39.640 --> 01:08:42.000
drink some water. So he's trying to get some water

1201
01:08:42.039 --> 01:08:44.239
and he's trying to get his composure with himself. He's like, man,

1202
01:08:44.279 --> 01:08:45.720
I'm feeling you know. He goes, man, I just don't

1203
01:08:45.720 --> 01:08:48.399
feel guys, feels sick and I go here, Man, here,

1204
01:08:48.479 --> 01:08:50.119
drink some more water. He goes, man, I got a headache.

1205
01:08:50.960 --> 01:08:53.159
And I go here. I sit here, just take some

1206
01:08:53.239 --> 01:08:56.199
deep breaths. Here, drink some water. So he drink some water.

1207
01:08:56.800 --> 01:08:58.319
He's like, Okay, we gotta go. We gotta go. So

1208
01:08:58.399 --> 01:09:01.159
I start going. All of a sudden, I get that.

1209
01:09:01.279 --> 01:09:04.760
I get hit and I'm like, man, I said, whatever

1210
01:09:04.840 --> 01:09:06.319
you just went through, you just gave it to me.

1211
01:09:08.000 --> 01:09:10.760
And I started feeling really nauseous. It's so much that

1212
01:09:10.960 --> 01:09:13.439
I actually went down to a knee and I'm like, man,

1213
01:09:13.439 --> 01:09:15.159
I don't feel that. And then the headache hit me

1214
01:09:15.920 --> 01:09:18.960
and I'm like, bro, I go I can't get my bearings,

1215
01:09:18.960 --> 01:09:20.760
you know. And he's like, get up, get up, we

1216
01:09:20.760 --> 01:09:22.359
gotta go. We gotta go. I just saw something again.

1217
01:09:22.359 --> 01:09:25.079
I just saw something again. And we start moving and

1218
01:09:25.239 --> 01:09:29.880
we're moving, we're hauling, but we come through this trail

1219
01:09:29.880 --> 01:09:32.640
and we see the main trail. Now we know, once

1220
01:09:32.680 --> 01:09:35.239
we hit this main trail, we're not far away. We're

1221
01:09:35.279 --> 01:09:37.840
maybe one hundred and fifty yards two hundred yards to

1222
01:09:37.960 --> 01:09:44.399
the main asphalt road. So we start going and my

1223
01:09:44.520 --> 01:09:49.600
brother is gassed. He is he's just gassed. And I'm

1224
01:09:49.640 --> 01:09:51.359
like come on, man, come on, come on, he goes, Man,

1225
01:09:51.359 --> 01:09:53.319
you're in better shape than me. You just go. I said, oh,

1226
01:09:53.359 --> 01:09:55.600
come on, let's go, let's go. So we get up

1227
01:09:55.600 --> 01:09:59.800
to the main road and I'm facing where our car is,

1228
01:10:00.479 --> 01:10:02.520
and I've got the keys to his car too, to

1229
01:10:02.680 --> 01:10:07.319
his car, and I'm looking you look down the road

1230
01:10:07.359 --> 01:10:09.199
and it's got like a bend in the road that

1231
01:10:09.319 --> 01:10:12.199
goes to the right. And he's looking at me, and

1232
01:10:12.359 --> 01:10:16.880
he's looking at you know, the road behind me, and

1233
01:10:17.039 --> 01:10:27.399
he goes, bro, I just saw across the street. Okay,

1234
01:10:27.399 --> 01:10:29.720
I'm not gonna cry. I'm not gonna cry. And he's like, man,

1235
01:10:29.920 --> 01:10:36.119
just go, just go. Yeh, he goes, I can't go anymore. Man,

1236
01:10:36.199 --> 01:10:40.239
He goes, I can't go. I'm gassed. And I go, man,

1237
01:10:40.279 --> 01:10:43.159
come on, let's go. Let's go, and he goes. He goes, no,

1238
01:10:43.439 --> 01:10:46.760
just he goes, tell mom my lover. He goes, just

1239
01:10:46.880 --> 01:10:48.479
go get out of here. I know you'll be able

1240
01:10:48.479 --> 01:10:52.720
to get to the car before me. And I slapped

1241
01:10:52.800 --> 01:10:56.439
him as hard as I could, and I'm like, man, no,

1242
01:10:56.720 --> 01:11:00.199
you take off. Go give me your knife. You know.

1243
01:11:00.239 --> 01:11:02.760
I had a straight edge, almost like a k bar knife,

1244
01:11:03.640 --> 01:11:06.520
and he had a really large lock blade, and I

1245
01:11:07.239 --> 01:11:09.000
grabbed his knife from him. I said, I got this.

1246
01:11:09.159 --> 01:11:11.600
I said, go, I'll catch up with you. Just go.

1247
01:11:11.960 --> 01:11:15.119
I know I can catch up to you. And so

1248
01:11:16.000 --> 01:11:18.239
he takes off at a dead run, and I'm standing

1249
01:11:18.279 --> 01:11:21.800
there and I'm like, come on, let's go, let's go.

1250
01:11:21.960 --> 01:11:23.680
You want some of this, Let's go. And I'm sure

1251
01:11:23.680 --> 01:11:25.920
I'm saying other things, but i can't recall everything. And

1252
01:11:25.960 --> 01:11:28.079
I was saying, but I know that's the effect, the

1253
01:11:28.199 --> 01:11:29.359
fact that I was saying. I was like, I'm like,

1254
01:11:29.520 --> 01:11:32.640
let's go. You know you're not going to get my

1255
01:11:32.720 --> 01:11:35.840
little brother, you know. And I hear my brother go,

1256
01:11:35.960 --> 01:11:37.680
come on, come on, come on, and I look and

1257
01:11:37.760 --> 01:11:40.359
he's just getting ready to go around the bend. So

1258
01:11:40.479 --> 01:11:43.119
I take off at a dead sprint. And when I'm

1259
01:11:43.199 --> 01:11:45.479
running as harder and as fast as I can, I

1260
01:11:45.640 --> 01:11:50.000
hear something like a freight train just bulldozing right through

1261
01:11:50.039 --> 01:11:52.880
the woods. It's right on my right hand side. I mean,

1262
01:11:53.039 --> 01:11:57.359
it is moving, and I go, Bobby, go go go. Well,

1263
01:11:57.399 --> 01:12:01.680
he gets up to the car and I try to

1264
01:12:01.800 --> 01:12:04.720
dukes some hazard across the hood of the car. I

1265
01:12:04.800 --> 01:12:07.159
don't land the I don't I don't stick the landing.

1266
01:12:07.239 --> 01:12:09.600
I land on my back. The backpack I had on

1267
01:12:11.119 --> 01:12:13.159
saved me because it didn't I didn't knock any of

1268
01:12:13.199 --> 01:12:15.119
the air out of me. I jumped back up, was

1269
01:12:15.159 --> 01:12:18.039
able to get the key in, hit the unlocked button.

1270
01:12:18.439 --> 01:12:21.319
My brother jumps in and I put it in. I

1271
01:12:21.439 --> 01:12:23.000
started the car. I put it a verse that I'm

1272
01:12:23.239 --> 01:12:27.199
I'm rolling and he's like, go, go go. It's right there.

1273
01:12:27.239 --> 01:12:28.880
It's right there. I can see it's in the it's

1274
01:12:28.920 --> 01:12:31.239
in the trees. It's chasing it. It's right there, right there.

1275
01:12:31.239 --> 01:12:33.560
And my brother's like, come on, please go faster, go faster.

1276
01:12:33.680 --> 01:12:37.680
He's like, Daniel, just go, just go. And I just

1277
01:12:38.279 --> 01:12:40.720
mash the gas as hard as I can and the

1278
01:12:41.319 --> 01:12:44.000
engine kicks in and we start taking off. He's like,

1279
01:12:44.079 --> 01:12:47.760
it's still, it's right there, it's right with us. And

1280
01:12:47.880 --> 01:12:52.079
we come up to a t and I locked the brakes.

1281
01:12:52.159 --> 01:12:54.800
I cranked the wheel to the to the left. We

1282
01:12:54.920 --> 01:12:58.079
fishtail out and I just take off and that's the

1283
01:12:58.199 --> 01:12:59.319
last time we were in that area.

1284
01:13:02.119 --> 01:13:10.079
Oh my goodness. Wow, I'm sorry. Damn, I'm sorry you

1285
01:13:10.119 --> 01:13:13.880
lost your brother. You can tell you guys, had you

1286
01:13:14.000 --> 01:13:16.159
had a special special connection.

1287
01:13:18.000 --> 01:13:31.720
H m hm oh man, he would he should call

1288
01:13:31.880 --> 01:13:35.640
me so many patch he would be he would be

1289
01:13:35.760 --> 01:13:40.640
clown to be so bad right now, the baby white crying,

1290
01:13:42.960 --> 01:13:44.119
Oh I'm missing.

1291
01:13:44.680 --> 01:13:47.680
Yeah, you'll see him again someday, man.

1292
01:13:49.079 --> 01:13:55.439
Oh I know, yeah, I know I will. But yeah,

1293
01:13:55.479 --> 01:13:58.239
that was that was the that's that's pretty much the

1294
01:13:58.319 --> 01:14:00.399
last time I've ever been deep in He would like that.

1295
01:14:00.640 --> 01:14:03.279
So, yeah, I was going to ask if if this

1296
01:14:03.479 --> 01:14:08.279
is a thing where you know now that you're you're

1297
01:14:08.319 --> 01:14:12.720
getting into the show with with Josh and in your start,

1298
01:14:12.760 --> 01:14:16.680
I know, you're you go deep with with researching different things,

1299
01:14:16.800 --> 01:14:19.199
if if you've gotten to the point where you start

1300
01:14:19.319 --> 01:14:23.000
to go into it, it's not a thing for you.

1301
01:14:23.680 --> 01:14:28.039
It sounds like, yeah, you know, it's it's it's a

1302
01:14:28.119 --> 01:14:29.880
lot of times when I'm doing research, I've got to

1303
01:14:29.920 --> 01:14:31.920
stop and just walk away from it for a little

1304
01:14:31.960 --> 01:14:37.600
bit because it brings it back, you know, and then

1305
01:14:37.680 --> 01:14:39.800
it just makes me take, you know, stock of my

1306
01:14:39.920 --> 01:14:43.319
life and and you know, I've got three grand babies now,

1307
01:14:43.479 --> 01:14:46.640
and you know, three kids and a beautiful wife, and

1308
01:14:48.079 --> 01:14:50.600
you know, I don't go out and do the crazy

1309
01:14:50.680 --> 01:14:55.680
things like I used to. I used to just go

1310
01:14:55.960 --> 01:14:59.560
for days, sometimes weeks off into the woods, and just

1311
01:15:00.359 --> 01:15:03.680
do my own thing, you know. Yeah, And I just

1312
01:15:05.520 --> 01:15:08.760
I just I just don't. I just don't. You know.

1313
01:15:08.840 --> 01:15:12.680
It's I'm more hyper alert, more hyper aware of my surroundings.

1314
01:15:12.720 --> 01:15:15.560
I don't I don't pigeonhole myself into certain things. I don't.

1315
01:15:15.560 --> 01:15:18.800
I avoid areas and situations at all possible. I carry

1316
01:15:18.880 --> 01:15:22.520
everywhere I go. You know, it's better to have and

1317
01:15:22.640 --> 01:15:24.720
not need than need not have, you know what I'm saying.

1318
01:15:25.479 --> 01:15:29.520
No, absolutely, And it's it puts you in an interesting

1319
01:15:30.199 --> 01:15:33.000
situation where you've had these things happened to you in

1320
01:15:33.079 --> 01:15:37.000
the past, and you're able to relate to you know,

1321
01:15:37.119 --> 01:15:41.720
if you are to interview someone about a big foot site,

1322
01:15:41.880 --> 01:15:45.399
you're you're able to relate about you know, the emotions

1323
01:15:45.479 --> 01:15:49.760
they went through and how it probably you know, gets

1324
01:15:49.800 --> 01:15:52.439
replayed over and over in your mind or you know,

1325
01:15:53.520 --> 01:15:56.439
different things like that. Big for society who will be

1326
01:15:56.560 --> 01:16:16.119
right back after these messages? And I think that's really special.

1327
01:16:16.159 --> 01:16:19.479
It's the thing where I'm just starting to experience that

1328
01:16:19.600 --> 01:16:23.000
myself because I'm going out to different places. But what

1329
01:16:23.239 --> 01:16:27.680
is you know, speaking of mysteries unknown, what is the

1330
01:16:27.800 --> 01:16:30.319
main goal that you guys have with that channel.

1331
01:16:32.039 --> 01:16:36.560
Well, with mysteries unknown. You know, Josh created it and

1332
01:16:37.000 --> 01:16:39.640
I'm champion it as well. You know, we just want

1333
01:16:39.680 --> 01:16:43.960
a safe space for people to go if they've had

1334
01:16:44.000 --> 01:16:47.560
an encounter, they had something they can't explain, and they

1335
01:16:47.600 --> 01:16:49.279
want to be able to let it off their chest.

1336
01:16:49.840 --> 01:16:50.960
You know, they want to be able to get that

1337
01:16:51.039 --> 01:16:54.239
off their chest and hopefully have other people relate to them.

1338
01:16:54.760 --> 01:16:59.079
You know, I I monitor the chat on each one

1339
01:16:59.159 --> 01:17:03.760
of the episodes, during and even after they're posting. You know,

1340
01:17:03.920 --> 01:17:06.560
we do a live and then when we post a

1341
01:17:06.680 --> 01:17:09.319
live or post or Josh post an episode. You know,

1342
01:17:11.119 --> 01:17:14.520
I understand, and I'm guilty of this. I'm very very

1343
01:17:14.600 --> 01:17:18.720
I look at things. I scrutinize everything, I really do it.

1344
01:17:18.800 --> 01:17:22.079
I think that's just my military background, me being a

1345
01:17:22.119 --> 01:17:24.600
police officer in the military, then being a crutch officer

1346
01:17:24.720 --> 01:17:27.439
for the State of Tennessee for two years, and then

1347
01:17:27.560 --> 01:17:30.119
doing private security and things like that. You know, I'm very,

1348
01:17:30.279 --> 01:17:34.560
very cynical in a way that when I listen to

1349
01:17:34.680 --> 01:17:39.039
someone's account, you know, I give everybody the benefit of

1350
01:17:39.079 --> 01:17:43.119
the doubt, and I do not like it when people

1351
01:17:43.199 --> 01:17:46.359
go on and just openly and blatantly just say this

1352
01:17:46.520 --> 01:17:49.439
person's full of crap. This person's lying, this person's bs.

1353
01:17:49.600 --> 01:17:52.079
I don't believe nothing they're saying, this person's a jokester

1354
01:17:52.159 --> 01:17:54.479
or whatever, you know, because here's the thing, I don't

1355
01:17:54.520 --> 01:17:57.640
know everybody's story. I don't know their experiences. I wasn't

1356
01:17:57.720 --> 01:18:01.039
there on the ground with them. Now, well, I mean,

1357
01:18:02.520 --> 01:18:05.920
you know, we've had we've had a guest on and

1358
01:18:06.119 --> 01:18:08.960
you've had a guest on your show that you know,

1359
01:18:09.760 --> 01:18:12.920
they've mentioned stuff when it comes to the military, and

1360
01:18:13.039 --> 01:18:16.800
I'm very critical to that. One of the guests did

1361
01:18:16.840 --> 01:18:18.880
the exact same thing I did in the in the

1362
01:18:18.920 --> 01:18:24.479
Air Force, and I called shenanigans on a part of

1363
01:18:24.560 --> 01:18:28.239
his story because I know the rules and regulations, I

1364
01:18:28.319 --> 01:18:32.119
know they operate procedures, I know all of that, and

1365
01:18:32.640 --> 01:18:35.760
that person was, I think, telling a story. And then

1366
01:18:35.840 --> 01:18:37.079
you know, I had a person on there and I

1367
01:18:37.199 --> 01:18:39.600
called the person out on you know, I didn't say

1368
01:18:39.720 --> 01:18:41.880
you're a liar, but I said, you know, I got questions,

1369
01:18:42.840 --> 01:18:46.359
you know, And I've actually had conversations with that person.

1370
01:18:46.560 --> 01:18:48.920
And I'm actually following their channel too, because I like

1371
01:18:49.000 --> 01:18:52.720
their channel. It's it's pretty interesting. So but you know,

1372
01:18:52.960 --> 01:18:57.279
still it's it's I just want to protect people's story.

1373
01:18:57.359 --> 01:18:58.840
I just want to protect them. I want them to

1374
01:18:58.960 --> 01:19:00.640
understand that, you know, there are people out there that

1375
01:19:00.760 --> 01:19:02.960
have experienced similar things, if not the same thing, and

1376
01:19:03.039 --> 01:19:05.279
it's a safe space for them to come. And that's

1377
01:19:05.319 --> 01:19:11.000
what Josh Josh is very very very passionate about. You know,

1378
01:19:11.199 --> 01:19:16.880
it's a safe space for everybody to to let everybody know, Hey,

1379
01:19:17.199 --> 01:19:19.640
I did have this issue, and I don't know where

1380
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to go. I'm afraid to say anything to anybody. I

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01:19:22.239 --> 01:19:24.680
just need to know am I crazy or did I

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see what I saw? Or did I experience what I experienced?

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And we want them to know that, hey, you can

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come here and you're safe. I love that.

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It's it's very close to what guides me. But the

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01:19:38.000 --> 01:19:40.479
thing that I like about your channel is that, you know,

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01:19:41.279 --> 01:19:45.039
you don't just stick to Bigfoot. You're throwing every all

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01:19:45.159 --> 01:19:47.279
sorts of stuff in there. As you were mentioning before,

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01:19:47.680 --> 01:19:49.800
You've got the dog Man episodes, and a lot of

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01:19:49.840 --> 01:19:52.960
my listeners are like, get into dog Man. I'm like, well,

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01:19:53.079 --> 01:19:54.760
I'm kind of sticking to big Foot. If it comes

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01:19:54.840 --> 01:19:57.520
up organically, then yeah, we'll do it. But I mean,

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01:19:57.560 --> 01:20:01.840
the great thing about your channel is that it's got

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01:20:01.880 --> 01:20:04.399
all sorts of stuff for all sorts of people over there,

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01:20:04.479 --> 01:20:07.680
So definitely listeners will want to check it out. The

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link is going to be in the show notes and

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01:20:09.600 --> 01:20:13.640
they can subscribe and all that good stuff. But Daniel,

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01:20:13.760 --> 01:20:18.439
it has been such a awesome chat with you. I'm

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01:20:18.479 --> 01:20:21.520
glad we're finally able to get you on the show.

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And thank you so much for sharing your stories. Your

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01:20:25.640 --> 01:20:28.840
accounts that I know are are very near and dear

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01:20:28.920 --> 01:20:31.319
to your heart, and I really appreciate you doing that.

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01:20:32.840 --> 01:20:35.640
Yeah, hey, I just want to let you know if

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01:20:35.640 --> 01:20:39.000
it's okay. I mentioned you earlier. Earlier today, I started

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01:20:39.079 --> 01:20:43.760
my own podcast, heck you, and it's called The Paranormal

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01:20:43.880 --> 01:20:47.399
Narrative Podcast that's on YouTube. I've only got one episode

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01:20:47.479 --> 01:20:52.439
on there so far, and I dive into everything that's paranormal, supernatural,

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01:20:53.199 --> 01:20:56.079
ghostly hauntings, things like that. I'm going to try to

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01:20:56.079 --> 01:20:58.840
stay away from Bigfoot dog Man that type of stuff

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01:20:58.880 --> 01:21:02.960
because that's Josh's you know, that's his thing, and him

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01:21:03.000 --> 01:21:04.800
and I were a team. You know. People have called

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01:21:04.840 --> 01:21:08.000
this to the Dynamic Duo and and I'm truly blessed

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01:21:08.039 --> 01:21:09.960
to have him in my life as my friend and

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01:21:10.399 --> 01:21:12.600
my brother, you know, and you know, because of him,

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01:21:12.640 --> 01:21:14.960
I met you and found you. Actually, I was listening

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01:21:15.000 --> 01:21:21.199
to you before I even even met Josh. So dang, yeah,

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01:21:21.199 --> 01:21:24.439
I've been. I've been. Yeah, I came across you. I came,

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01:21:24.680 --> 01:21:27.399
I go listen to this guy. Listen, listen how he talks.

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01:21:27.439 --> 01:21:30.319
I love that Kadi is how he talks. You know.

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01:21:30.960 --> 01:21:32.880
Well, thanks, thanks Daniel, I appreciate it.

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01:21:34.279 --> 01:21:36.279
Yeah, man, And you know, I'm just trying to work.

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01:21:36.640 --> 01:21:38.520
I'm just trying to work, you know, work behind the

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01:21:38.560 --> 01:21:41.039
scenes and get Josh some pretty good interviews. And Josh

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01:21:41.119 --> 01:21:43.199
has done so much for me. And Josh is, like

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01:21:43.279 --> 01:21:48.000
you said, he is such a great guy. He honestly, man,

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01:21:48.079 --> 01:21:51.399
he's helping fill that void of my little brother being gone.

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01:21:51.640 --> 01:21:55.760
I mean, he's that top every single day times of day. Man.

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01:21:55.800 --> 01:21:59.119
And I tell my love him. He's my brother. I'm

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01:21:59.159 --> 01:22:00.840
blessed to have him in my life. I just want

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01:22:00.880 --> 01:22:04.119
to I just I I succeed when he succeeded. That's

1431
01:22:04.119 --> 01:22:05.359
whay I look at. I want to do as much

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01:22:05.399 --> 01:22:06.520
for him as I possibly can.

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01:22:06.680 --> 01:22:14.520
So that's special. Yeah, Daniel, thank you. I'm going to

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01:22:14.560 --> 01:22:17.399
have both both shows. In the show notes that down

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01:22:17.479 --> 01:22:19.920
the description, people can check out. But you guys are

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01:22:19.960 --> 01:22:22.479
doing great. I'm I'm a fan of what you guys

1437
01:22:22.520 --> 01:22:25.760
are doing myself. I try to catch everyone that I can,

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01:22:26.399 --> 01:22:29.720
and uh, thank you so much for coming on, Daniel.

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01:22:30.800 --> 01:22:33.800
Dude, I was, I was. I was surprised that you

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01:22:33.920 --> 01:22:37.079
wanted me on, and I'm very honored to be on

1441
01:22:37.199 --> 01:22:40.600
your show. Man, I mean you you are. And I

1442
01:22:40.680 --> 01:22:42.880
call it my Monday I call it my Monday Morning

1443
01:22:42.960 --> 01:22:47.159
mix up. You know, it's it's you, It's Sasquatch Chronicles,

1444
01:22:47.399 --> 01:22:53.039
It's Josh Nice, Sasquatch Odyssey. You know. So, I mean

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01:22:53.039 --> 01:22:57.000
I I for probably five hours of my my day

1446
01:22:57.239 --> 01:22:58.680
is spent listening to you guys.

1447
01:22:59.600 --> 01:23:01.560
That's a good group to be in. A thank you, man,

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01:23:01.600 --> 01:23:02.199
I appreciate it.

1449
01:23:03.520 --> 01:23:04.479
I appreciate you. Man.

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01:23:06.960 --> 01:23:09.720
Please take a minute to help out the show by

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01:23:09.920 --> 01:23:13.319
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01:23:13.399 --> 01:23:16.880
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01:23:20.000 --> 01:23:23.199
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you're subscribed, share the show with a friend. Really, it's

1456
01:23:27.520 --> 01:23:30.680
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01:23:30.720 --> 01:23:33.520
had a bigfoot encounter related to the following or know

1458
01:23:33.800 --> 01:23:37.840
someone who has. Please reach out to me at Bigfoot

1459
01:23:37.880 --> 01:23:41.319
Society at gmail dot com or pass on my email.

1460
01:23:42.119 --> 01:23:45.039
Here's the list. If you've had any encounters in Oregon,

1461
01:23:45.279 --> 01:23:47.520
which I'm sure there's probably a few of you out there,

1462
01:23:47.800 --> 01:23:50.640
please feel free to reach out immediately. You can use

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01:23:50.720 --> 01:23:54.399
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01:23:54.479 --> 01:23:58.720
you to all the Bigfoot Society, Patreon and YouTube channel members.

1465
01:23:58.800 --> 01:24:01.560
It's your support that helped keep the show going and

1466
01:24:01.680 --> 01:24:05.159
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01:24:05.239 --> 01:24:08.399
the fun, you can join over at patreon dot com

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01:24:08.439 --> 01:24:11.560
forward slash the big Foot Society. I'll see you there,

1469
01:24:12.800 --> 01:24:14.479
and again thanks for listening.

1470
01:25:04.399 --> 01:25:05.840
Her and I can get on here. We can tell

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01:25:05.880 --> 01:25:09.159
our stories. Maybe there's somebody else out there listening that's

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01:25:09.239 --> 01:25:12.119
too afraid to tell their story. Maybe this will give

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01:25:12.199 --> 01:25:14.840
them the courage to come out. And now it feels

1474
01:25:14.840 --> 01:25:17.960
so bad about it. Who cares what anybody thinks. I

1475
01:25:18.079 --> 01:25:21.279
know what I saw, I know what's out there. That's

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01:25:21.279 --> 01:25:40.560
all I care about. Please let people know, Please let

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01:25:40.840 --> 01:25:41.439
them know.

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01:25:41.760 --> 01:25:43.039
If you've ever seen one.

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01:25:42.960 --> 01:25:46.680
Of these things, you need to tell because if you don't,

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01:25:47.039 --> 01:26:00.119
then shame on you. You know, Shame on you, no