It was Killing Something Right Outside my Tent at Salt Fork!

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0:42 He is an individual that reached out to me through email from Central Ohio about some things that he's experienced in that state. So it's a pleasure to talk to you tonight. E. I'm going to go ahead and hand it right over to you. Sarah, thank you for being here tonight. Yeah, thank you for having me, Like you say them from the Central While I guess I've always been a believer, now a kind of a knower. Had to type be class be exciting, pretty pretty. I guess Volga, you'll say that happened to me never never will forget it. So obviously living a while, Grassman is the terminology. Didn't even know about the Grassmen until I moved to Ohio about over ten years ago. In so for State Park is like the mecca of it all, and so me, I always want to go out there and check it out. This situation happened to me April twenty ninth of twenty twenty two. I know that because it was a while for ohipped for conference and I want to go. I want to meet people.

1:59 I knew, you know, all the big names in the Bigfoot community. We're going to be there and just and it's like, you know, the place to be for Ohio. So the place that my situation happened was a spot called Bigfoot Rich It was Campsite number six. U never never forget it, still go there to this day. So it was on Friday nights. Got there kind of late, probably about eight o'clock, nine o'clock and it's still kind of like that sunsetting about six, So I was putting on my camp got off work setting everything up in the middle of the kind of like darkness. Had to use my headlamp to put it up, and it was gonna get cold that day, so I got my mister heater, got everything I needed. So after after I set everything up, I had Chipotle and a Chipotle and forgot I left it outside and raccoons were got your little footsteps coming in and whoever was at the Hobbit for conference. I even told the story to them Mark who runs it to everybody that year as well too, that falling Sunday. So if you were there, you know who I am, what I looked like, and everything else. So so yeah, fast forward to you know, raccoon's coming in and out of my camp and this is about two o'clock and they kind of di serve me, decided unzip

3:34 my zipper, kind of scam away and used the bathroom also to mention there are people from the buf r O. They were camping that night around me. Later found that out they were from New Jersey. They drew allways from New Jersey to a while to experience the been for conference. So they went out for a night investigation. So it's about two thirty now, going out to relieve myself, and they're coming back from a night hike. They had their red lambs and everything, and so I knew I wasn't the only one up during that time, so decided to go. Because they're coming back from the cars and have their head lamps and going into their tents, and I'm going back to my tent as well. So I'm kind of surmounded by people.

4:29 If you've ever been at both, be for rich. There's a brush line near the connected by that sign. If you're pulling in, be on your right hand side, and campsite number six. Like I said, so I had a red tant had my mister here was going to be in the thirties. And so I hear this raccoon, like I said, they're coming in and out, in and out here go back to the brush line, and they're taking food that I left Chipotle, the kind of hear rolling through some other stuff as well. And here it nibbling like and you can hear it's like a small creature of raccom possum, something on that nature. And as it misses this animals eating whatever it was, small rodents, natural animal, I hear it die like like I hear it like like it's fighting for his life, like somebody's attacking him. And I'm like, okay, I'm thinking I'm trying to be logical, like a coyote fox something like that, you know that'd be could kill like a predator or some type of predator the only predators we have, or black beer. But we only got like a population of one hundred in a while. It's not like Tennessee was. It's in the thousands. So so yeah, by my mom a awoke now like heard this animal die and so forth. So decided to turn on my mister heater to keep me warm. Thirty five degrees probably came a little bit colder,

6:01 and the nap and from the brush line I heard and I was like, did I just hear that? And it was all because I turned on my mystery heater and my whole tent lit up from being red. And I heard it the third time and it blew me away. And the third time at first time I turned it on, the mister heater is weird because it's like counterclockwise to turn it off, like I said, it was the first time, I'm using it too, and such like I said, I turned it on, I didn't believe what I heard. And then it happened again the second time, and I had it on a low setting and it got super loud when I accidentally turned it from low to high and I was trying to turn it off. I mean, the loans on the stage. It was like, and I'm laying on my back too, like laying on my back, and I'm like, it's not even ground level, and I'm like, this thing is up like if I was a stand up, like you know, six feet plus, like I'm trying to because I'm trying to get distance from a distance and how high up it is and I'm like that that sounds like taller than me. And I can't even do justice of with the grunts and so forth. So in my mind, like I'm thinking, did

7:32 I just disturb a big triot kill? And I didn't even hear it come up. And I'm thinking thinking to myself, if this was a black bear like it would it would have it should have went through my camp, which it didn't, should go to other people's camps, but it didn't. You hear it slowly like crunch crunch, crunch away, But for something that big, I should have heard it come up to the brush line, and yeah, it pretty much ambush whatever that was. It was a raccoon or apossum or whatever. But I didn't hear it. I mean, I didn't hear anything until it made to kill. Like I could hear the little animals and then it just like if you ever heard like a like like a calf, not a calf fight, but something fighting for his life, and then you could tell it small like a dog or like a dog fight or whatever.

8:35 And so yeah, sometimes, I mean I'm up by then turn on my my mister heater, my tense read, and I hear the grunts and I didn't believe it, and I heard it again, and I'm thinking to myself, is this is this the vocalization that people? Is this what it sounds right? And it clearly is directed towards me because I'm the only one that they had to like lit up the tents. I mean when I went out to use the bathroom prior, nobody else had there turn lit up at all, so that red on red really glowed up the area. And I'm probably like twenty twenty yards twenty five yards pretty close to our brush line. I know that because I played football, so I how like you know, first downs and all that. So yeah, I'm pretty close. It's this thing.

9:43 I mean, it could have been on me right right then and there, and luckily it didn't. And the third grunt, because I was trying to turn it from load to off, I actually journed to low to hide and so hit grunted. So I didn't get a look a look asleep all night. I know what was gonna happen next, it was gonna come back. I didn't at all. And so as soon as daybreak, like soon as daybreak, I go back to Columbus. Central Aisle was on one city that's really in Central Aisle. So so go back to Columbus. My wife, I thought I was going to spend the night there, like you know, in the morning and the online come home and I to come to her and I said they're out there. I said they're out there. She said, I look like I've seen a ghost, like I I my pain my skins. You know, I'm African American, and I just kind of like lost pigmentation. I guess a little bit of my skin fair skinned African America.

10:56 So so I got I guess I look whitish and pale scared. Kept be playing that over and over in my head that night, kept listening and listening. Didn't hear anything, but I did hear it, like by Peter walk Away. So I just left everything there, you know, I was just gonna come back and get it. And so, because I just there's no way I was going to sleep out there. I needed some sleep. So and my son had a soccer game anyways, so I decided to go later that afternoon. So April twenty ninth, that Friday night was Cacas.

11:39 Technically is April thirtieth, two thirty in the morning, So April thirty if the next Foucus the week in the Bigfoot converces just a weekend thing. So and later go to the afternoon and I pull up and the BFRO people from New Jersey came up to me immediately after I got in my car and asked me, did you hear anything? And I said, yeah, two thirty in the morning. They're like yeah. So that gave me validation that I wasn't the only one I heard it, and it was I don't know what else. And a while, the biggest thing we really really got his white tailed deer and one hundred hundred bear roughly black Bear, and I mean the place is notorious for obviously big Foot and grass Man, so yeah, I mean I the validated for me was after we're playing it over and over and over my head was the fact how high up those vocals And I can tell if it's ground level or not. You can tell if this is six feet or more. You know, you know from the street light, so it definitely was. And look runs at you and like walks away, and there was nobody with flashlights, nothing like that. So if it was, if

13:15 it was a bear, it should have went through everybody's stuff. It didn't. It was particular. It had a mission, it completed a mission, and I think I deserved part of its mission. That's why I got those vocalations directly towards me. And yeah, yeah, so share with my experience. That would a while being for conference that Sunday, whereas it's like a town hall meeting that Mark Colds I can't remember march class name, but he's pretty much runs a sort of told everybody there in front of Nanny Cliff, doctor uh No Droom even a moneymakers world too. So Don Don Keeney was there as well, and so John as well. Let's see John quite a bit when I go there. So uh so I after that happened, I was like, I'm never don't need to go back, don't need to I was scared, Like it took me months to even build up the courage because, like I said, this is COVID, the ending and ending of COVID, And you know, I was always curious about it, and beforehand I was hiking. That was my first time spending the night there. And you know there's a map of I guess where all the sightings has happened as well.

14:48 And I wanted to go to a primitive site and it's a primitive spot throughout the park, the snow running water, there's no electricity. And yeah, I've done hikes there where I've seen footprints in March which is still like thirty degrees and I wear a size a little boot and I with the length the depth, the depth is like incredible that something can leave an impression like that and frozen ground. The heel print like when you step like hell first tost second and the heel is somewhat deeper. The heel leaves the bigger impression, because that's why all the weight goes and it spreads the earth, spreads the dirt around, pushes it, rolls it up. Got pictures of that in Southton County, went on the high control there. This is probably like a year or so ago, hunting, and it sounds I'm walking there's deer everywhere. I mean, I think Contract the county. In Jersey County they got the biggest kills deer, deer, Carroll kills your and your plenty of food, and those two kinds kind of touch each other, aboard each other.

16:21 And so yeah, fall obviously deer season. Walking down the trail fior like a mile a mile and a half, and there's some houses on my right hand side, not houses I would at a farm, a farm, but the loudest like Louisville's Celever not ever. And oh, I do a lot of hyping hope when I get lucky, like I said, to build some some time after. This situation happened to me in two thousand two, and this not probably happened last year last fall. So there was some courage to go back out there and heard that as fact. I don't know what else. I mean, it wasn't it was so early in the morning it was like seven thirty in the morning, and I'm like, who's building anything?

17:19 And it wasn't repetitious knocking. It was just one solid just like pow, and that was it. It wasn't a like it wasn't even a tree falling over because you were with crunch crunch, crunch, crunch fall over. It wasn't even that. So I had a walker stick. I tried to knock back nothing, but I saw when I saw the deer on that day, that day, this is like last fall, it felt like a knock, like someone's here. The grunts, I'm going back to the run some sorry, I'm all over the place because the grunts felt like someone's saying, hey, hey, knock it off, like that's what That's what it felt like, cut it like, cut it out, knock it off type grunts.

18:15 And I didn't act fast enough. Of the grunts are probably be the second apart, and the third one just got pretty pretty pretty love like. It escalated and I couldn't get that mister leear shut off fast enough. So I mean, I've I still go out. I reached out to Harley Owens. I let him know that I was pretty close. I mean was six hours away to uh I heard him. I've seen the impressions they leave in the earth, and I do I do one day, I want to have a class obviously, I want to if I'm going to have a Class A, you know, if I have my pickings of something that is, I can go home that day. But uh so, yeah, so far I had those Class B s and they were never never forget them. And yeah, I mean they're definitely here. I mean, I don't know what else, what else could leave that type of type of front in the middle of the night, and yeah, yeah, it has to be. So that's that's very interesting, that whole situation happening that weekend. Do you mind if I ask you a few questions? Yeah? Yeah, So you leave early

19:52 in the morning to go back to Columbus, which is just under an hour and a half, is right, and then you go back get your stuff. Now, when you went back to the campsite to get your stuff, you know, did you notice signs of a struggle? How you know, you were saying, like that raccoon or whatever it is got taken out or did you see any evidence? So yeah, so one of the guys from how I knew it from Bilfaro because he had a ber farro add on and and I talked to him and they told me they were from New Jersey. And there this one particular skinny lady red hair, pink hair that we went back there to look to see like a tussle this thing it sounded like I got a hold of and it was like, you know how if you pick up a wild cat's trying to get out of your arms, and I think, I think this just like snapped his neck, twisted something and that was the end of it. So it wasn't much. It wasn't even tusseling.

21:02 Really, it was like I snatch up them. It wasn't like the bushes weren't, you know, rumbling around the leaves, none of none of that. It's like like I said that that animal that was eating my chipotle was occupied, yall. And I'm thinking to my that night, I'm thinking, what a perfect opportunity to ambush animal in the midst of it, you know, being occupied eating this food, you get behind it or and get it. So I'm thinking, what do we have in a while that can do that. I'm like, possibly fox, coyote. But they're not going to leave those vocalizations like how I heard or there for that matter, because they don't go like they This is different between a growl and a grunt. And this is definitely a grunt. Right, And it was immediately so you said you heard you actually heard like bipe all footsteps as well afterwards. Yeah, it was odd. It was. It sounded like a sneak sneak up.

22:10 I mean, I mean when I say it sounds like the fact that I didn't hear it come the fact that I didn't hear it. And it was it was large. It was large. It was it was, it was And I'm laying on the ground and I can hear it like six feet up. I'm being conservative when I say that too. When I say six feet up, I'm like a minimum of six feet like a minimum of that. I'm glad I got the validation from the people from the UNFR telling me, hey, did you they I couldn't. They came out. I couldn't get out the car fast enough without them coming towards me. Right, and and and the lady she heard it, the skinning girl from New Jersey. The guy with the DFR had on. He said he fell asleep. I mean when they went in their ten and after I got done doing number one.

23:11 It happened ten minutes fifteen at the most. And I'm thinking that they like, you know, when you're in the woods and if you're looking for Bigfoot like they were, you're gonna want to stay up a little as long as you can, especially just got into your tent. So for him to say that, yeah, I fell asleep, I was like, man, you fell asleep less than ten minutes. And I was kind of like, there's no way you fell it. And then here and I was like that that didn't that didn't like wake you up at all, Like you're I can understand if you're going slowly to sleep. But so he was kind of bummed out. He didn't hear it. A little bit. She did, and other people were saying that, yeah, there was a lot of animal activity, which makes sense because there's a dumpster there, which prime opportunity for them to get into the trash cans after the people leave or you know this camps.

24:14 But yeah, big Foot, Bigfoot Ridges obviously a hospital. Whoever's been there knows about it. So yeah, I mean they've been saying throughout the whole entire park. Can you can you share just in case listeners don't know, do you can you share any information about why that area is called Bigfoot Ridge. The story that I know of is that there was a picnic area before they made it a campsite. And I think John has said that on one of his podcasts on YouTube, or he was telling the story as somebody was is that. I guess this is going back the eighties or maybe early nineties, that some two of them stepped out and I think it was a handicap like picnic area, so and then they converted into a campsite eventually a primitive campsite. Like I said, it doesn't have any electricity or running water or anything like that. And I guess when they named it, they named it Bigfoot Ridge. There's a sign up for it and everything you can look get up on Google. I guess once it was being known as the hot spot of Ohio in a sense, they decided to name it Bigfoot Ridge. So absolutely, a solid Fork State Park is a huge, huge Bigfoot area for

25:48 people that aren't aware. It's also the site of the Ohio Bigfoot Conference, as you said earlier, But were there any other reports from that night or weekend of other people are having big foot in around. Yeah. So the place there's a horse there's a horse camp area everybody everybody that has courses. I like to go over there as well too. And there's a lot of bridle trails. It's like four or five long. I like, it's a great place if you want to go for long hikes. I do now, just to see what I can see. I think the next thing for me is like possibly smelling them. Never I didn't smell anything. I did get asked the question did I felt sick? I remember tell my story at the conference and when one guy came up to me says, did you feel sick?

26:47 And said, no, I didn't feel nauseous because I heard of ultrasound, but with the aggression of the vocalization towards me, because I turned my mister here and just look up place with my red tent and so just kind of gave it like a you know, a glow. It littered up for sure. And that's why I think because I didn't hear it, it was certainly trying to be stealthy and me lighting up the tent, you know, blueish like somewhat cover so and so, yeah, I mean it was definitely towards me. I mean, like I said, that happened a seconds soon as I turn on. I'm justster here. But other people did the There was another lady from New Jersey, from the bfrl by, like I said, the horse camp. There's the orange trail that kind of begins there, so to speak. There's like the white trail, blue trail, purple trail, orange trail. They saw two sets of blue and red eyes, one blow and high. So yeah, there's other people that saw all something and glowing red eyes. And they they were out there when I was setting up tent, like I said, eight o'clock six sick whatever it was, they were heading out. So they were out there for like six hours from about

28:19 it was to say, from eighth to to That's very very interesting. Besides so I guess a few few follow up questions. Uh, No, strange smells in the campsite. No, no, nothing, nothing wors like the stuff you hear, right, the stuff that like like this, the skunk, the wet dog and all and this stuff that makes you want to throw up like none of that. No, the NFL info sick, but the like the sound the best way I can describe is like below the dira fram like like gutna roll bulleting your gut if you can like make sounds from your belly up versus from your lungs up, like That's how I would describe it.

29:21 It sounded like if if a gorilla could do that, that's I mean, that's I never really heard a gorilla grunt. But but it's not a known animal in Ohio that can, like I said, deer and bear right, And it was like it had intelligence because it didn't do what I wanted to like it clear it stopped the grandsons, I turned off the mister heater you know, after the time of third runt, So it had intelligence like to do that. And I'm thinking, if this this this, I think we're not known for a bear state at all. We're just just not West Virginia and Tennessee are right, but we're not known for that. Lets you tell people you have a better chance of running to a big foot than a than a black bear here in Ohio. And I mean I think Ohio is the hospital just because all our rivers run into Ohio River, So you got the water stream, all the creeks and the small rivers at Sayota rivers and all that run into it. Obviously you got the Great Lakes that that you know, so we were surrounded by water. Really no main big predators one hunder bear, black bear, which is nothing to them. And we mean trophy if you want a trophy book, ohios. Whereas at for a trophy

30:52 book, you're trying to get that to two fifty range of pounds if you definitely get here. So and I know winters are not whether lately they've been very very mild, but but yeah, I mean it goes back to the eighteen hundreds when that one particular father and daughter of walking down and she just I don't think she said gorilla because the group of gorilla didn't exists back in those terms. I forgot what she called it and attacked her dad. So so yeah, I mean it's it's And then I also go to Hawking Hills, which has the stories when National forests. I haven't had experienced there, but yeah, I don't, I don't. I really don't go once in the summertime just because you can't see any foliage. I mean, the foliage are so thick. But yeah, the situations that happened to me with the Knock vocalizations. They were springing and fall. So yeah, that makes that makes sense. Yeah, that's a that's a good time, especially the fall from what I hear. So you are you're actively going to Hawking Hills or you've been there a few times? Yeah, yeah, I mean living living in Columbus, you know you're about I mean I live on a hour fifteen

32:24 that can get to on South Fork and then like an hour hour and fifteen painted Hawking Hills. The National Forests, southeast Ohio, Tayor Hall is a good place, Broke, It's a good place, state park. I'm trying to think of some other ones as well, but yeah, anything over there is uh. Obviously Hawking Hills, that whole general region is a good spot. If you look at it on the bfr ol map that's mapped out, you can pretty much draw a straight line from Columbia County all the way down to Hawkin Hills, which runs into Saltfork. So it's our highest point of the state. And there's the I guess, the appellation of foot foothos and plateaus, I guess, And it kind of makes sense where they stay from eastern Ohio southeast to northeast so kind of a diagonal line which kind of runch through Soft Fork if you were dryer on the map. But but yeah, I'll never forget. There's nothing. I've been to the zoo. I've been at San Antonio Zoo. Columbus Zoo is pretty well known. There's there's there's nothing that makes not there's nothing in North America, well at least classified, it makes that type of noise. Did you say that you had actually seen

33:55 a track there, Yeah, yep, tell us. I think it was I think the weekend. That was in the weekend, No, that was, that was like the year prior that was. I was going out there like two thousand and two I'm sorry, two thousand COVID COVID years because there's not much else to do then go hiking and camping, and I was getting tired of playing golf all the time, so needed another outlet of And I think that's where I picked it up because, like I said, one story short, I was working from home and listen to a bunch of podcasts and so forth, so it kind of expired me to go out, you know, to Soft Fork and get on those trails. Like I said, it's a whole bunch of bartle trails that can go eight miles to ten miles and you get some four mile once as well too. So yeah, I got on the trail and I saw the footprint, like cross the trail, there was this one single footprint that stepped on the trail and off and you couldn't see the recipe because it was you know, leaf litter everywhere, but the trail didn't have any leaves, and you can definitely see a heel for sure.

35:19 It looked blocky, like a blocky foot it didn't, yeah, just wide and blocky. You can see toes as well in it. But the heel, it looked like the dirt just rolled up on his heel when it's stepped on it, because it's pretty like rounded or mounded at the heel area as it's pushing off his heel into the toes or landing it heel and going on to the toes. But yeah, I was walking down the trail of it and step right over it, step right over it, and was kind of it looked fairly fresh. But but what caught me was the impression.

36:07 And I was looking for rocks, but I'm thinking like and it's a horse trail so like they're going to clear rocks out the way. They don't want their horses breaking their expensive animal the own and take care of it and all that, so they keep it somewhat kind of cleared out for the horses. And I'm looking around for rocks. I'm not firing a rock, but it is clearly going across. This is on the Blue Blue Trail. That's all this and the blue trails. If you look us all focused on the peninsula, you can say and a lesser crossing the waters is a really one way in and one way out on land without crossing water. So that's the reason why I went on a blue trail, and that's where I noticed it.

37:00 Did you have any way of did you have like a tape measure or anything with you to try to Yeah? I did, I did. I had my foot size of leven foot so I can I can send it to you of it to compare. And it makes my foot like a child's foot, it really does. And that was that was that was astonished, and like I got, I guess quote unquote grown man feet. I mean I'm not six four six five, but that made my stuff with like my my toddler when I have. My kids were toddlers size compared to my feet, So were you able to try to do like a cast or a three D scan or anything like that. Besides, no, I didn't have anything. I didn't have anything on me. I mean the only thing I don't even think.

37:47 I didn't have my wallet on me. I loved it in the car. So I didn't have really not much other than I knew everybody knows what the size of level foot looks like or a boot. So so I put my foot up against it to say, hey, this is like almost twelve feet right here at the size eleven, so man, it's another three to four three yeah, yeah, it looked like fifteen feet to me. Yeah. And then the with like my it was like the with of my foot plus another half of my foot at least. So I got I put my foot in it, and it was spaced on left and right of it, and I weighed to forty to forty, So I'm not I'm not a skinned guy, and I couldn't do nothing in the ground, and the ground was frozen. It was let me freeze that night and thaws out a little bit.

38:47 So but we're in March, so it's like forty for a high. It's not thrown out that fast or back that efficient, so it's more frozen throughout the death than it is above freezing. So yeah, And to leave their impression into the ground like that was something. How how deep into the ground did it go? Again? Oh, Lisa, Lisa in a lease like inch and a half. And I couldn't do nothing. I couldn't do nothing, Like I tried stopping on it and everything around it, like not in it, but around it to see what I can do. I couldn't moved it. I mean the grounds like sex seemen almost. So there's nothing I can my two andy pound body could do to put an impression into the earth like that, and coming out of winter so barely. Scott from Patreon has a question for you, what was it that first got you into Bigfoot in the first place? Master Quests Us definitely did the Old while grassmend episode and I just moved to I guess a while and O seven and I think that came in like two thousand and seven or I want to say eight, really, and that for me, And then they had another one about Kentucky,

40:19 like they're in a while Kentucky. They got to be in West Virginia and found out about the Florida's country, so they did intrigued me. I was in and that was about going to college and then school and girls and bars and parking and all that got in away, and then COVID hit and it was like, okay, I think everybody had to find an interest because if you're guy was going to the gym, I was going to movies, going up to eat all. I came to a hall. So I need something to gravity take towards keeping my interest throughout the day. And that's what kind of I guess we sprung it or it was there. But I always believe. I always believe in evolution anthropology as well too, the evolution of I guess you could say beings human beings. I guess neanthos and so forth and all that. But uh, yeah, I mean, and then the fact that every Native American has a word for it. It's huge, and I was like, oh my, And then like from coast to coast, like they're they're definitely not calling each other, writing each other, none of that. And then yeah, that and that everybody can be crazy. Everybody is like making this up over and over and over and over and over again.

41:43 I'm like, you know, I was like, there's no money to make this stuff up. There is nothing, Like you're not you're not going to get rich off of telling the story. You know, all these people emailing and giving reports and it's like they're not. My emails is full every day and it's like these people are not getting anything from sending these emails. Like no, it's just yeah, I totally get what you're saying. And then like for me, like, but the podcast was the harshness of treatment. I guess higher authorities in the government that people get And I was like, really, like they go that far of threats and stalking and yeah, the harassment. I was like, wow, So that that caught my interest on my crether definitely not making this up absolutely at all. Have there been any other interesting encounters you've heard of from the Salt Fork area? Just curious if you've ever heard anything. Yeah, yeah, I don't want to give out this guy's name. Sure, so I don't know if it's his permission, but he's pretty well known. Yeah, there was a guy if you know, well, you can google were the I met him, a big

43:14 foot ridge. This is he knows who he is if he's listening, his name starts really eat as well to let's say that. So and over by the group camp, there's like a swampy area and it's a little road that goes into it. And him and his his his partner in crime. He has his own YouTube channels well too. He's I don't want to tell too much about him, but uh, him and his partner go out for a hike and come back. His story is that I think his wife was going to don't have one car, so normally he goes in with his car, comes out of his car, go back in his car, and leaves.

44:05 But this time, like I guess, his wife was dropping them off, and so they dropped them off. They go in and out they where they normally park at. They kept on walking and at soft Fork, like I said, at the campus is little road and it's kind of swamp on both sides, he saw one about ten feet tall, all black. Moved trees out the way to see if they left, because normally, like I said, they drive in, drive out, They doors close, open and close and all that, and I guess the big foot was like where are they?

44:50 I didn't hear them get back in their truck. I didn't hear them drive away, and they were walking towards his bridge, this narrow bridge over this little swamp spot to get I guess closer to his wife that was on her way. She was running a little bit late, and so they did something out of the routine that they normally do and he saw one and he was shook up for months. He told me, showed me a picture. I guess Mark Seene went as well too. I talked to Mark. I think you know who Mark is, who wants to be a big Foot conference.

45:32 He saw a black one as well, So I guess they're pretty common to be black here in Ohio. Not to say there's not brown ones or anything like that or whatever, but to two of the people I saw talk to face to face that had an encounter and that class a good class a that they had, they're black. So so yeah, I that's the class that I heard of as soft Fork. Yeah, and yeah, that's extremely interesting. Let's I'm sure a lot of people listening to this would be like, man, I've always wanted to go to soft Fork and look for bigfoot.

46:15 Do you have any advice for people that are going to sol Fork for the first time to go camping. There's gonna be a lot of knuckleheads out there. Don't go and don't don't, don't. Don't go out there in this summertime because every everybody that I know, there's people that don't even bother going to Salt Fork anymore because it's it's some people nothing. It's just saying it's getting squashed out. But you get all these people going out there in the summertime, knocking on trees, hooping and hollering and doing hoops, and you know, they got they got the kids camp where they go out there and they walk around. It could be pushing them away at certain times of the year. And that's why I talked about while if you look on the BFR, oh, you can plot a straight line so they can go up and down online in the state so they could I said, Hawking Hills is just right below it on that appellation. The appellation a while really that they do get pushed out because there's too many people in the state park. They got somewhere else to go. So, yeah, if you're going to do this, do it. When I did it, really spring lay Fall.

47:43 I like going because if you're going on these trails. It's so thick in there you can't see ten feet and you're almost wasting your time doing that. If you're going to do it, you want to go when all the leaf leaf flitters down, you know it's November, December, January, February, where you actually can see a mile, you know, half a mile. It's pointless doing it during the summertime. He really is. So I don't even waste her. I mean, I'm not saying not go out there, but I have a little expectations. In other words, I would say, if you want them to come up close, you're going to need at least three days. I think I just got lucky that one night of them.

48:31 It really didn't come up to me. It really had no interest in me. I just disturbed it but turning on my mister Hero lamp glowing up my tent, and it got pissed off of me. So it wasn't there to check me out. It was really there to do its normal routine of getting a dinner, a meal, and move keep keep it, keep it moving. But if you want these things, I guess I've heard you need at least a week about that, four or five days for themn't even feel comfortable approaching you. It was clearly pissed off of me, and you know, probably didn't want me there to begin with. So if you want to have an encounter, I guess them coming into your camp mind didn't come in my camp. I don't count that account is passing my camp by. I just got lucky. I'm turning on my mystery here at the time that I did and definitely directed towards me, and the other people heard it too, So yeah, I think it's a solid Yeah, a solid class B vocalization.

49:47 I really haven't heard too many stories like mine, like kind of like the old man get off on your type of thing, like yelling at me. Never really heard that from anybody else. Thank you for coming on and sharing. This is a very interesting interaction. It's kind of a unique one. I would say, definitely haven't heard many like it. But I appreciate you coming on to talk about your experience at soul Fork. Yeah, appreciate it. Thank you for having me. It was a pleasure, and yeah, I'm surprised we don't have more for a while. Be honest with you, I don't know why that is, but please take a minute to help out the show by subscribing on YouTube, making sure you hit the bell so you don't miss any notifications, and share the episode on YouTube with a friend.

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