Feb. 2, 2025

It Was Right There! | Chewelah | Washington

Join us in this riveting episode as we dive into Laura's astonishing Sasquatch experiences spanning from Oregon to Washington and even Kentucky. Laura first encountered a mysterious presence near Dorena Lake, Oregon in 2014, feeling an eerie...

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Season 1

Join us in this riveting episode as we dive into Laura's astonishing Sasquatch experiences spanning from Oregon to Washington and even Kentucky. Laura first encountered a mysterious presence near Dorena Lake, Oregon in 2014, feeling an eerie electricity and unease high up on a forest ridge. Years later, at a spiritual retreat in Chewelah, Washington, she vividly saw a Sasquatch traversing a soccer field, a sighting later confirmed by other attendees. From camping trips to Bigfoot expeditions with the Kentucky Bigfoot Research Organization, Laura's encounters provide a rich tapestry of paranormal activity. Don't miss this episode as Laura courageously shares her transformative journey into the realm of the unknown.

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slash the Big for Society and now let's get on

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with the show. All right, Big for Society. You've got

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the privilege of talking to Laura today. Laura is an

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individual that reached out to me after she heard an

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episode that was an organ episode that was asking for

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any people to reach out that had organ encounters. So

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Laura has some really interesting things she's going to be

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sharing today. So welcome to the show.

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Laura. Hi, Hi, thanks for having me.

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Absolutely, we've had such a fun conversation before the show

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just a few minutes ago, so I really can't wait

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to get into this, Laura. We're going to be going

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from Oregon to Washington and who knows where else. But

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I'm going to go ahead and give the reins over

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to you. Laura. There's anything that else that you want

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the listeners to know, feel free to add that as well,

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but definitely take us back as far as we need

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to go. When you started experiencing interactions with sasquatch.

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Okay, okay, let's see. So the first thing that happened

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was in about twenty fourteen. I think it was summertime. Yeah,

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it was, And I had been living in Oregon for

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a couple of years, and I lived there for a

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total of about eight years. But in twenty fourteen, yeah,

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i'd lived there for a couple of years and was

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dating my ex who Well, what we kind of did

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for fun was just drive to the coast or drive

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to the forest on the weekends. We weren't really squatchers

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or anything like that. Did kind of both, you know,

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believe that was a real thing. But we didn't exactly

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go looking for sasquatch either, but we would drive through

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the forest. He had a lot of experience doing that

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in a previous job. So I think he was comfortable

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doing that. And well, during the summer, there one time

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when we were riding around, or we were riding up

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and down like some old forest roads near Durana Lake.

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It got to the end of one of them and

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it was way up high on the top of a

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ridge and let's see, there was a sort of an

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open just a little clearing there, not even in a field.

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It was a pretty small clearing, but it was just

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a really cool spot we found. So maybe some weeks

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later or a month later, there was this alignment in

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this sky that I'd heard about on the news, like

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you could see the super moon and a couple of

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planets and it would look really cool. So I said, hey,

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why don't we go back to that spot because we'd

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have such a great view to, you know, look at

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the sky see the moon and the planets. He said,

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are you sure you want to do that? And I'm like,

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why not? Because I liked the camp and right around

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in the forest and so but I guess I didn't

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really know what the forest would be like at night,

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because the atmosphere kind of changed. After we got there.

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We drove to Durana Lake and then we found that

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old road and kind of rode up. It was around

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six or seven miles away from sort of a main road.

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And when I say there was just nothing there, there's

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I don't know the name of that forest exactly, but

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no outside of the roads, there was just nothing, no buildings,

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no people. I don't even know if we even passed

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another car, maybe one or something, but not a lot.

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But as we were it hadn't gotten dark yet. And

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as we were driving, I thought one of my friends

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had given me really good advice about going into places

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like that, and it was to just let the creatures

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and the animals there know what your intentions are. And

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she had told me I could say it out loud

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or just say it in my head, but it was

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just important to do that, and so I did. And

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when we were driving up that road, I just thought, well, hey, guys,

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you know Sasquatch, if you're out there, we're just coming

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to visit. We just want to share the space for

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a little bit. We're not trying to get pictures or videos.

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We just want to visit so we can look at

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the sky tonight. And as we got there, it was

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still light. I was after we'd driven about seven miles

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into the forest, and we were up on the ridge.

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As it started to get dark, we could still see

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it was twilight, but the atmosphere kind of changed, so

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it was a little bit windy and the tree tops

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were moving a little bit, and it wasn't scary. But

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it had been like sunny, and we were kind of excited,

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you know, on the way out there, but suddenly it

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felt less like that, but it wasn't scary, and I

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took a minute to leave, leave the truck we were in,

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and I decided to take a little break, you know,

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away from my boyfriend and behind a couple of trees.

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And so when I stood up, I was about to

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walk back over to him, and I felt this electricity

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sort of in the middle of my back, but more

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on my left side, but down kind of in my area,

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and I stopped. I'd never felt anything like that before,

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and it slowly traveled up my back and into my

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neck and threw my scalp and it was the strangest

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sensation I'd ever had in my life, like ever. And

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I walked back to my boyfriend and he was standing

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next to the truck and he just looked at me,

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and before I could say anything. He said, I feel uneasy.

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So I said let's go. Let's go, and we jumped

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into the truck. He said, well, it feels a little

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better sitting in here, and I said no, no, no, no, no,

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let's go. Let's go now, now, now, And we drove

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out of there pretty fast, and we talked a lot

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about how the atmosphere had changed, and we both had

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the feeling. He asked me what it felt like, and

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I said, it just felt like we were surrounded, even

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though we didn't see anything. It just I felt like

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I was being watched by it, I have to say,

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several creatures. And it was just the feeling I had.

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And then of course the electricity thing happened. And what

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he had noticed was that there was a small kind

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of bushy tree on the edge of the clearing, and

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he thought that it was shaking a lot more than

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all the others. And I hadn't really, I hadn't seen

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it moving, but because it was kind of windy too,

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I don't to me, I wasn't sure if that meant

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there was like actual tree shaking or it was just

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the wind. But he just felt really uneasy, and he

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kind of felt the same way so that led me

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to right after that, I began listening to Sasquatch chronicles

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quite a bit and trying to learn more about Sasquatch.

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I did believe it was real, but I didn't have

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a real strong interest before that either, even though I'd

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heard a lot about Sasquatch in the region people I

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met when I would go camping and go skywatching. That

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was something I did whenever I could around that time,

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and eventually, I guess it was about three years later,

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and I went to a spiritual sort of let's see, well,

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I was on a spiritual retreat. I had done that

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for a few years in a row, and just kind

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of a long weekend away with a lot of people

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who had the same interests, and we were all believers,

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you know, and I guess you could say a lot

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of woo stuff Sasquatch and aliens. And I had an

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interest in UFOs too, and so I was around with

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a lot of like minded people. And I had gone

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to this retreat up in northeast Washington and that was

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let's see, yeah, that was Labor Day weekend in twenty seventeen,

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and so it was kind of late summer, really late

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summer and we were outside Chewela Chehela, Washington, This really

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small town, I guess it was about an hour's drive

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north of Spokane, maybe about halfway between Spokane and the

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Canadian border. And there's a really small town called Chewela

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in a big mountain, Chewela Peak, and you could drive

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about nine miles up from the small town of Cheweila,

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and my group had rented out this conference facility there.

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There wasn't much else there. There were a few roads

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that had like some housing, some summer houses, a few

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year round residents. Not that many lived right there on

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the peak. I think there was a ski slope not

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too far away, but most of the area was just

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national forest. So but the conference facility, i'd see that

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was the Chewela Peak Learning Center, I think that's the

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name of it. And there were about one hundred of

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us and I think it was the last night we

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were staying, either the second to last night, the Saturday

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night or Sunday night, because we all left on Monday morning.

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I had an experience where I was walking back to

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the RV that I was staying in kind of late,

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and there was a small building that had a bunch

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of showers and some women's dorm areas, and it was

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next to a kind of a field, like a like

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a soccer field, if you can imagine that. And so

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I was walking back from that building into the RV.

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It was maybe ten point thirty I don't think it

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was past eleven PM, so it's pretty dark, but there

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was an outdoor light on the building I came from,

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and on a couple of the other buildings on the

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property too, and that soccer field was right in front

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of me. And there were a lot of tents too,

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a lot of so some of the people at the

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conference were staying in tents that were around the edge

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of the field. And let's see, how did that. I

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left the building and I kind of glanced down to

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my left, and I could see another woman that attended

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the conference. She was kind of sitting alone in a

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area we had There was a fire pit area, but

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we weren't burning any fires because there was a burned band.

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That summer was too dry, so we couldn't have any

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our own. And then I turned to my right to

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go on the path towards the RV on the other

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side of the property. And as I was beginning to

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go that way. I saw something moving down the center

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of the field, and I kind of stopped because I

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knew what a person looked like from that distance, because

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I'd seen people, you know, in that area before, but

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it was so much bigger than a person, and I

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just stopped. I was kind of frozen because I couldn't

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believe it what I was looking at. And I could

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see a sasquatch walking kind of down through the center

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of the field if you can imagine, you know, like

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from one goal of a soccer field, you know, towards

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the other goal area. It just walked down through the

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center basically, and it kind of looked like Patty from

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the film that everybody's seen, except it was walking the

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other way, from right to left. And because it was dark,

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I couldn't quite see the face it was. That part

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was in shadow, but I could see the outline perfectly,

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and you know, and the little conical head. And I

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think it was really dark because in the hair was

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really dark. And I wasn't scared. I wasn't scared at all.

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I know a lot of people are when they see that,

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but I think I was just too shocked and surprised

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at what I was looking at to be scared. Plus,

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it wasn't walking straight towards me, it was walking more

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past me. It seemed to kind of glance in my direction,

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but kept on moving away from me. So I wasn't scared,

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and I just watched it, and from my perspective, the

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other end of the field was sort of there. Weren't

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any lights or buildings back there. There was nothing but

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forest behind it. So it just kind of disappeared in

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to the darkness. And so I went back to the

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RV and I got into the bunk that I was

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sleeping in, and I just pulled the blanket over my

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head and just said, like, what did I just see?

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What did I just see? And I didn't tell anyone.

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I didn't tell anyone, even though a lot of the

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people that I knew and that were there, they are

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all believers and some experiencers. But I just didn't tell anyone.

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I think I didn't maybe trust that. I thought. Was

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I open to suggestion? Could I have imagined that, could

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have not imagine, but maybe created that somehow in my mind?

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And so that was my feeling at the time, And

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so over the next year I would often think about

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it and wonder what I saw and replay the incident

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in my head, and I'm going back to where I

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told you. I left the small dorm building and looked

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to my left, well, I saw another woman that I knew.

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And when I went back to the same conference in

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twenty eighteen.

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She was there, too big for society, who will be

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right back after these messages?

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And as we arrived, people were just standing around saying

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hi to each other, and I spoke to her and

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we chatted for only a minute, and then she said

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something about last year when the sasquatch walked through the field,

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and I said, you saw it too. You saw it too.

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I know you were there because I saw you when

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I left the building, and so you saw it too.

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I didn't bring it up. She was going that brought

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it up. And that's when I began to truly believe

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that I saw what I saw and she hadn't seen

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me leave the building, but I had seen her as

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I left a little building that night, And so it was.

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It was a year before I actually breathed a word

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of it to anyone, and but I'm somewhat more comfortable

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talking about it today. And that's that's pretty much what happened.

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That. That is incredible. I'm looking at a picture of

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this learning center. It looks like a very really cool

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place in the out in the mountains.

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Yeah, out in the middle of nowhere, right. Yeah. Yeah,

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it's a really cool place. And it was owned by

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the a Department of Education and a lot of educational

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conferences were held there, I guess for administrators, but also

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like band camps, and I think maybe church camps could

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rent out the facility too, and they would rent it

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to other groups I wanted to, and so my group

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just happened to be the one they rented it that weekend.

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But yeah, yeah, it's a neat place.

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So when you were there for twenty eighteen, then you

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did have this conversation with this woman that you saw again,

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But did it come up to any other people that

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you would talk to during that same time where hey, actually,

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last time I had seen a sasqua walk through the field.

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Do you mean were there was there anyone else who

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saw it?

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Or did you start sharing your account with people at

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that time during that conference?

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Yeah, a little bit. Yeah, I told a few people

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and determined that there was another witness to it, but

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he he was from a different country, and he also

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deleted his Facebook account, so I never could ask him

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about it. I was going to, but I just kind

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of dropped it when I couldn't find him on social

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media when he had been before, but his account was deleted.

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So yeah, So there was actually a third person who

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saw it, according to the other woman. Yeah, and so yeah,

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I was going to say, just the one of the organizers.

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When I spoke to her about it, you know, I said,

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I didn't leave it, and then I talked to her

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and she confirmed it, and so I know it really happened.

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And she just said, oh, I love when that happens,

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you know, kind of a synchronicity sort of thing.

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Is this particular have you looked to see if this

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particular area is known for sasquatch sightings regularly?

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I heard that I don't know about. Well, I had

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heard people say that they were there, they that they

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some were there and lived there. I don't know about actually,

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you know how many sightings just I it some people

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in the area said, yeah, they live here there, they're around.

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Interesting And what I think and what I think it

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was doing was it actually used one of the trails.

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There's a lot of nature trails on the property, and

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I think it actually used one, uh when it disappeared

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into the forests off the kind of behind the far

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end of that soccer field. Yeah, there was a little

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trail right there, so I think it actually used used

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it to at least enter and exit. Yeah, the area.

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I think it was just curious about us because there were,

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you know, a bunch of people staying there and some

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were intense actually in the field or well around the

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edge of it, and I think it was just checking

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things out. And yeah.

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Well, and the thing is is like, you know, we

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don't know exactly how how this all works, but hypothetically,

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if you do have a large group of people where

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they do have a positive intention, that could be almost

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like a huge magnet, right and they could be like, well,

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what's going on right here? This is like a big party,

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Let's check it out.

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Sure, sure, absolutely, absolutely, And the vibes were you know,

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strong and high, so yeah, I think if they couldn't

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sense that sort of thing, and I believe they can,

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then and that's what happened. Yeah.

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Now, the year that you had the sighting, so which

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should be twenty.

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Seventeen, twenty seventeen am.

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The day after you had that sighting at night, did

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you go back to that area at all, maybe to

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see if there was anything that you know, would be like, oh,

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there's something that maybe looks like a track or or

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anything like that, or did you kind of stay away

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from that area.

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No, I didn't go back, and the next time actually

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went there, or at least with the intention of, you know,

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thinking about it, was actually the next year, gotcha, And

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I actually went back again in twenty nineteen for the

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same event, but did not in twenty twenty. Everything got

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canceled in twenty twenty. That's true. Yeah, so, and I'm

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not sure that the centers even open anymore. I think

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the state closed it. They closed it for when COVID happened,

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and they closed everything and then didn't reopen it because

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they said it cost too much to maintain.

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Yeah, unfortunately, on my map current day does say permanently closed, so.

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Yas, Yeah it is, but it is a real place,

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and yeah, it's a neat place.

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So you know, after having that sighting in twenty seventeen,

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are there ways that this has greatly affected your life

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in years after that?

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I think so in some ways in that I had

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to think long and hard about what it meant to

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believe in something, because before I saw it, I was

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a believer. I mean, I thought, well, I mean, I

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listened to so many stories people recount their stories on

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you know, some other podcasts, and I thought, well, they're

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not all liars. I don't know if they're all telling

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the truth, but they're not all liars, so believe them.

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But I never thought I would see one, especially because

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I really never went looking through one either. I didn't

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go out squatching. I didn't go on expeditions and things

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like that, which is something I have done in more

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recent years. I live in Kentucky now, that's where I'm from,

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and so I've actually gone on a couple of trips

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to go out looking. But back then, you know, around

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that time, I went from being like a believer to

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like a knower, an experiencer. And it just kind of

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reinforced that probably other things that we've been told aren't

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true are true. If I mean, if that's true, then

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a lot of other things like well, I think, you know,

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there's probably alien life throughout the universe, and there's probably

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some that have visited us before, and I have no

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idea which stories are true. And which are not true.

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But again, they're not all liars. The people you know,

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sort of catalog that information or have those experiences and

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share them. I don't think they're all liars. I haven't

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had that kind of experience, but yeah, yeah, so I'm

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probably more inclined to believe some of those things that

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we're told are not true really.

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Are That makes sense. I've mentioned it a few times

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on the show. But you know, I did go out

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to Oregon this summer, did not have sighting, but I

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did experience some weird vocalizations way out in the woods

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around the will lame It National Forest, And so I

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can get I can kind of get that. I think

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where it makes you question things that you have set

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up in your mind, in guardrails that you have set up,

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and like, okay, you know what do these guardrails actually

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need to be up? Or are there things that I

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believe that maybe aren't completely true? Things like that. You know,

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it does make you just think through everything. Right, you

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mentioned that you are starting to go on like bigfoot expeditions.

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I'm able to do it a few times. KBrO Kentucky

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Bit Research Organization. Often there's a spring one and a

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following in different parts of Kentucky, and so I moved

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back here in twenty twenty. And actually, so I've been

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able to meet some other people in the area. Well

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some people come from other states, but in the region,

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and yeah, we all have that common interest we do.

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We go to some places that are known for sightings

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and see what we can find an experience.

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So, if you've had that sighting out in Washington, what

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is your main goal or why then take part in

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these expeditions down in Kentucky.

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Well, because I think they're just they're all over the

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United States. Maybe not everywhere, but at least in the

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heavily witted parts. They're probably more common than we realize.

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And so if I could have the chance to see

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one again, that'd be amazing. But also it's been cool

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to just go camping with some people who have similar interests.

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That makes sense when you have an interest in a

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niche subject where it's hard for people to really understand.

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It was super helpful when you're able to meet people

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that get it. I totally understand that.

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Yeah, And you know, you continue learning about the phenomenon

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by doing things like that. You know, Charlie Raymond, he

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organizes that. He and his wife Lindsay organized that, and

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they're great people, and he's mentioned a few times and

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now I believe him that they're curious, curious creatures, and

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they do sometimes want to come check out, you know,

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the people who are camping in the woods or taking

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a trip, taking a hike through the woods at least sometimes.

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But he describes them as curious. And now I believe.

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That when you've been out on these expeditions with the Raymonds,

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has anything out of the ordinary happened that you've experienced?

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Oh wow, yeah, well, let's see, I haven't had a

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sasquatch sighting, although some other people on the trip have

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and I'm the same event, but not when I was present.

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There have been a few sightings. I know at least

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one person there's a had a really cool sighting, but

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it was on a I'm not sure a fleer it was,

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or the no, the thermal the thermal camera. Someone saw,

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you know, the really cool movements like through the thermal camera,

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but not like visually. And things like that have happened

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different times. One time a log got rolled over on

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a trail that we had just hiked, and no one

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knew who did it. There was another really weird thing

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that happened one time. It was I don't know if

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it was No, I don't think it was Sasquatch related exactly.

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It was almost like a time slip happened in the

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woods where I was with a group of about five

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or six of us, and we were pulled off on

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the side of a road that was leading to a river,

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and there was a rock wall on the other side

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of the road, and let's see, a group of about

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six five or six in another truck passed us and

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stopped and slowed down and said hey, and we said hey,

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and that we'd meet up down at the river. And

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so a little while later the group I was in,

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five or six of us got in the truck we

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were in and continued on down to the river, but

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they weren't there. And we were kind of surprised because

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they couldn't have left the area without passing us. We

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couldn't have left without passing them. They couldn't have left

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without passing us. But neither of us passed each other.

456
00:29:38.960 --> 00:29:41.279
I don't know if if I can if I explained

457
00:29:41.319 --> 00:29:43.880
that very clearly or not. But we didn't meet up

458
00:29:43.960 --> 00:29:47.160
until a couple hours a few hours later back at

459
00:29:47.160 --> 00:29:49.799
the campfire, and none of us could figure out what

460
00:29:49.920 --> 00:29:55.480
happened because a screw passed us in a truck slowed down,

461
00:29:56.160 --> 00:29:58.920
said hey, we'll meet you down there later, and continued

462
00:29:58.920 --> 00:29:59.559
on down there.

463
00:30:00.599 --> 00:30:03.359
Big for society, who will be right back after these messages.

464
00:30:19.440 --> 00:30:22.400
But when we caught up with them down there, or

465
00:30:22.680 --> 00:30:24.759
we went to catch up with them down there, they

466
00:30:24.759 --> 00:30:27.799
weren't there, but they hadn't passed us coming back, so

467
00:30:27.920 --> 00:30:31.880
there was no other way for them to drive out. Yeah.

468
00:30:32.200 --> 00:30:34.799
Yeah, that's a mind bender, for sure.

469
00:30:35.279 --> 00:30:39.039
It was. It was a mindbender. Yeah yeah. And right

470
00:30:39.079 --> 00:30:42.319
before well kind of while that happened, I'm not sure

471
00:30:42.359 --> 00:30:44.599
if it was right before the truck passed us or

472
00:30:44.640 --> 00:30:48.000
right after, but all these dry leaves started falling, like

473
00:30:48.119 --> 00:30:51.039
right at the same time, but it wasn't windy, and

474
00:30:51.200 --> 00:30:56.240
we could hear them and see them falling, and it

475
00:30:56.279 --> 00:30:59.839
was it was just kind of odd, yeah, and nothing

476
00:31:00.079 --> 00:31:03.440
explained it, and you know, some of us talked about

477
00:31:03.480 --> 00:31:06.079
it with other people in the group, and but all

478
00:31:06.079 --> 00:31:10.400
we could really come up with was huh, I mean, huh,

479
00:31:10.480 --> 00:31:11.079
that was weird.

480
00:31:14.079 --> 00:31:17.440
Yeah, yeah, yeah, one of those things where everyone's just

481
00:31:17.519 --> 00:31:19.880
like yeah, no, no answers for that one.

482
00:31:20.519 --> 00:31:24.000
Yeah, yeah, pretty much. Yeah. Yeah. So so it makes

483
00:31:24.039 --> 00:31:26.720
you want to go on, you know, another trip if

484
00:31:26.720 --> 00:31:27.920
you get another chance, why not?

485
00:31:28.920 --> 00:31:31.240
You know, Oh yeah, when you when you get access

486
00:31:31.279 --> 00:31:35.400
to to something where you know, it's just it feels

487
00:31:35.440 --> 00:31:38.440
like you're part of some big mystery and that you're

488
00:31:38.720 --> 00:31:42.039
slowly starting to solve it, which in a way, that's

489
00:31:42.160 --> 00:31:46.519
really what this is. It's yeah, it's it's very very

490
00:31:46.559 --> 00:31:50.359
fun to be a part of. After after you or

491
00:31:51.160 --> 00:31:53.559
you know, maybe at any time, I guess I'll ask,

492
00:31:54.160 --> 00:31:56.880
have you ever felt, at any time that you've had

493
00:31:56.920 --> 00:32:00.599
a form of communication with assess Watch.

494
00:32:03.160 --> 00:32:06.240
Not really. I mean, I know there are people who do,

495
00:32:07.079 --> 00:32:10.799
and that's another thing that I believe is true. Other

496
00:32:10.799 --> 00:32:15.160
people have that experience. I don't really have that experience. No, No,

497
00:32:15.319 --> 00:32:19.279
But the one the time that the closest I could

498
00:32:19.359 --> 00:32:23.920
say is that the time in twenty fourteen when I

499
00:32:23.960 --> 00:32:27.319
felt the burning sensation or the electric sensation sort of

500
00:32:27.359 --> 00:32:31.119
like in my lower back, I just had I shut

501
00:32:31.160 --> 00:32:33.799
my eyes and I had this really strong sense that

502
00:32:33.839 --> 00:32:41.160
there were like maybe between five and seven other beings nearby,

503
00:32:41.200 --> 00:32:43.759
and I just was kind of overwhelmed with that sense,

504
00:32:44.480 --> 00:32:51.440
and I didn't see them. But as far as actual communication, no,

505
00:32:51.720 --> 00:32:53.559
that's just not my experience.

506
00:32:54.720 --> 00:32:57.680
Absolutely. I did want to actually get back to that

507
00:32:58.160 --> 00:33:03.039
twenty fourteen incident for a minute and just to maybe

508
00:33:03.119 --> 00:33:07.599
even just comment on it. That area that Doriana Lake.

509
00:33:08.000 --> 00:33:11.400
Have you been to any other areas around that as well?

510
00:33:13.920 --> 00:33:23.039
Mmm, let's see right around there. Not not really at

511
00:33:23.119 --> 00:33:25.119
least not that I could say I spent a lot

512
00:33:25.160 --> 00:33:28.799
of time in or No, because other times we took

513
00:33:28.839 --> 00:33:32.799
trips like that, we went further south and let see,

514
00:33:33.319 --> 00:33:38.599
but I think we only visited that area maybe two

515
00:33:38.720 --> 00:33:41.920
or three times, sure well maybe total of maybe total

516
00:33:41.920 --> 00:33:46.319
of about three. But I did see something later that

517
00:33:46.839 --> 00:33:49.799
gave me pause. If someone had made a map of

518
00:33:49.839 --> 00:33:52.480
Oregon and it was it was meant to be humorous

519
00:33:52.480 --> 00:33:56.359
and like like for Eugene. You know, there was something

520
00:33:56.440 --> 00:33:59.200
like this is where the ducks live in Portland, I

521
00:33:59.200 --> 00:34:02.359
guess where hipsters live something like that, But that same

522
00:34:02.400 --> 00:34:06.160
area around do Irena Lake. Someone the person had written

523
00:34:06.519 --> 00:34:10.559
this is where people see Bigfoot. That it was that

524
00:34:10.639 --> 00:34:13.480
area south of Eugene. No, and I thought that was funny.

525
00:34:13.679 --> 00:34:18.920
It's one hundred percent truth to that, because so if

526
00:34:18.960 --> 00:34:21.320
you keep following. You know, you have to go down

527
00:34:21.360 --> 00:34:24.559
to the Cottage Grove to get to Durana Lake. Usually

528
00:34:24.760 --> 00:34:28.519
you take that road. If you keep going down, there's

529
00:34:28.920 --> 00:34:33.599
a Sharp's Creek is a huge it's it's a campground.

530
00:34:33.639 --> 00:34:40.480
But there's been so so many incidents encounters in that

531
00:34:40.599 --> 00:34:43.239
area to do with Sasquatch. And if you just keep

532
00:34:43.280 --> 00:34:46.800
going out on service roads, there's places out there that

533
00:34:46.840 --> 00:34:50.039
are wild. And then you know that whole Cottage Grove area.

534
00:34:50.039 --> 00:34:51.679
I don't know if you've ever heard of the Al

535
00:34:51.800 --> 00:34:56.079
Moonlab or London Springs. Al Moonlab is a book you

536
00:34:56.119 --> 00:34:58.440
can read if you want to know more about that area,

537
00:34:58.480 --> 00:35:02.840
and just there's some really really intense bigfoot encounters and

538
00:35:02.960 --> 00:35:07.000
just super paranormal stuff related in that area. So I'm

539
00:35:07.000 --> 00:35:10.480
not surprised that you were experience things like you were

540
00:35:10.559 --> 00:35:14.280
mentioning in that lake, because this whole region is just

541
00:35:14.440 --> 00:35:15.360
absolutely wild.

542
00:35:17.280 --> 00:35:20.840
Yeah, yeah, it sure is. No, Actually, I didn't know

543
00:35:21.239 --> 00:35:24.480
that was a real hotspot for lots of paranormal stuff,

544
00:35:24.480 --> 00:35:27.000
although I did have that feeling sort of about the

545
00:35:27.000 --> 00:35:30.239
whole region the Pacific Northwest, and one of the reasons

546
00:35:30.639 --> 00:35:33.280
that I was so keen to move out there in

547
00:35:33.320 --> 00:35:36.920
twenty twelve. Is I was a skywatcher. I like to

548
00:35:36.960 --> 00:35:40.679
go camping and watch the sky and just watch, you know,

549
00:35:41.280 --> 00:35:43.880
different things in the sky that you know, you see

550
00:35:43.880 --> 00:35:46.920
a lot of weird stuff around mountains, and so I

551
00:35:46.960 --> 00:35:49.880
was a big fan of doing that, and I thought

552
00:35:50.000 --> 00:35:53.559
stories about big Foot were kind of silly. But as

553
00:35:53.599 --> 00:35:57.480
soon as I got there, though, you know, people just

554
00:35:57.599 --> 00:36:03.119
sort of b I met talked about it the utmost seriousness,

555
00:36:03.360 --> 00:36:05.760
that it was a real thing and people had real encounters.

556
00:36:05.840 --> 00:36:10.480
And I probably didn't quite believe they were real, or

557
00:36:10.840 --> 00:36:16.480
at least get glued into that until about twenty twelve. Yeah,

558
00:36:16.559 --> 00:36:19.159
once I got there, because it turned out if I

559
00:36:19.199 --> 00:36:22.559
was in a place skywatching and I did that a bunch,

560
00:36:22.719 --> 00:36:26.239
people were probably talking about Sasquatch too.

561
00:36:28.760 --> 00:36:32.840
Now with your experience just talking to random people out

562
00:36:32.880 --> 00:36:36.320
there were these people that were also you know, bigfoot

563
00:36:36.320 --> 00:36:42.280
researchers or were they just you know, run of the mill,

564
00:36:43.159 --> 00:36:48.039
normal people, blue collar workers. What kind of people were

565
00:36:48.039 --> 00:36:50.599
you running into that were talking about how like, yeah,

566
00:36:50.599 --> 00:36:53.679
I've had something happen, or yeah I believe in that stuff.

567
00:36:53.920 --> 00:36:58.639
Oh oh well, no, that was more. I had visited

568
00:36:58.800 --> 00:37:02.599
Trout Lake, Washington, around Mount Adams several times to go

569
00:37:03.639 --> 00:37:07.840
to go skywatching there, and so I met people there

570
00:37:08.000 --> 00:37:09.599
who you know, had the same interest.

571
00:37:10.719 --> 00:37:15.559
Yeah, the Mount Adams area has some really really interesting

572
00:37:15.639 --> 00:37:18.840
things happen around it, a lot of things related to

573
00:37:19.079 --> 00:37:24.119
UFOs and but also to Bigfoot as well. It sounds

574
00:37:24.199 --> 00:37:28.880
so I learned. Yeah, did you actually have sightings of

575
00:37:29.159 --> 00:37:31.440
UFOs when you were up in that area.

576
00:37:33.000 --> 00:37:35.199
A couple of times? Yeah, I saw a few really

577
00:37:35.760 --> 00:37:39.119
really strange things. You know, I would describe them as

578
00:37:39.159 --> 00:37:42.400
just lights in the sky, but they didn't conform to

579
00:37:44.079 --> 00:37:51.119
conventional aircraft and maybe orbs is probably the simplest way

580
00:37:51.159 --> 00:37:55.679
to explain some of the really weird ones in the sky. Yeah,

581
00:37:56.159 --> 00:37:58.239
that happened a few times.

582
00:37:58.280 --> 00:38:03.320
Interesting. Well, Laura, thank you for coming on the show

583
00:38:03.360 --> 00:38:06.519
to share what you have experienced over the years in

584
00:38:06.559 --> 00:38:10.559
your travels through the Pacific Northwest but also down in Kentucky.

585
00:38:10.599 --> 00:38:13.679
It's been very informative, and I hope that you're able

586
00:38:13.760 --> 00:38:17.599
to have more things happen as you probably will continue

587
00:38:17.639 --> 00:38:20.079
to do more expeditions down there in Kentucky.

588
00:38:21.320 --> 00:38:23.760
Well, thanks so much for letting me talk about it.

589
00:38:23.840 --> 00:38:26.880
I actually haven't done that much in a public setting,

590
00:38:27.000 --> 00:38:29.559
but I don't know. Now seems a good time to

591
00:38:29.800 --> 00:38:32.039
maybe finally share a little bit more about that. So

592
00:38:32.280 --> 00:38:35.559
I really appreciate the chance to do it absolutely.

593
00:38:36.280 --> 00:38:36.880
Thank you again.

594
00:38:38.400 --> 00:38:39.159
Okay, bye bye.

595
00:38:40.039 --> 00:38:41.840
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Number two encounters from the entire state of Iowa. Number

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three encounters from Oakridge, Oregon or the surrounding area. Number

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four any individuals that know about Bigfoot being flown off

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after the Mount Saint Helens eruption. Number five individuals that

612
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have had a bigfoot encounter well in the military. Number six.

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Those that have had a bigfoot encounter in the southern

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New Hampshire or north central Massachusetts area including Franklin County, Massachusetts.

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Number seven individuals that have had a bigfoot encounter in

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a Bible camp or boy Scout camp setting. Number eight

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individuals that have had bigfoot try to enter their house

618
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forcibly while they were living inside. Number nine individuals that

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actively have a bigfoot living on their property. And lastly,

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any sightings that are in the watchitat National Forest Area

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