April 15, 2025

It’s Followed Me Since Childhood!

Kevin’s story isn’t your typical Bigfoot encounter.

In this episode, we sit down with Kevin — a listener who first reached out in the YouTube comments — to share a lifetime of eerie, deeply personal encounters that span West Virginia, Ohio, and...

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Season 1
Kevin’s story isn’t your typical Bigfoot encounter.

In this episode, we sit down with Kevin — a listener who first reached out in the YouTube comments — to share a lifetime of eerie, deeply personal encounters that span West Virginia, Ohio, and Delaware. From shadowy Sasquatch-like figures peering through a back door in Warwood, WV, to glowing, static-filled humanoids near Wilmington, Kevin’s experiences are unsettling, unique, and surprisingly consistent over the years.

He opens up about his childhood experiences with sleep paralysis, the mysterious presence of “three watchers,” a terrifying yet calm face-to-face moment in the woods, and a larger question that looms over all of it: Do trauma and personal suffering make us more open to these encounters?

This is a raw, honest conversation that blends the paranormal with personal healing — and it might just change how you think about Bigfoot, reality, and the unseen things that follow us through life.

Locations mentioned:

Wheeling, WV • Warwood • Athens, OH • Wilmington, DE • Delaware–PA Border


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You're listening to Bigfoot Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron Tonight's

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account doesn't come from deep in the wilderness. It comes

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from the edge of town, from backyards, bedroom doorways, in

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the forgotten corners of Appalachia. This isn't a hunter's tale.

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It's from a man named Kevin who's been seeing strange

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things his whole life. A shadowy figure glowing like static

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in three watchers at the foot of his bed, and

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a sasquatch not deep in the forest but hiding behind

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a tree just miles from I ninety five, from West

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Virginia to Delaware. The encounters followed him, and through trauma

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healing in time, they never really stopped. This isn't just

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a Bigfoot sighting. It's a lifetime of being watched. So

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this is the story of Kevin in the sasquatch in

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the suburbs. So stay with us, all right, Bigfoot Society,

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You've got the privilege of talking to Kevin today. Kevin

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is an individual who got introduced to each other in

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the YouTube comments, where a lot of really great accounts

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come from people wanted to know. But he's got a

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few really interesting things that have happened over the years,

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including a state that we don't hear a lot from,

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so I'm excited to hear from Kevin today. Welcome to

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the show. How's it going, man?

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All right? Pretty good?

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Thank you absolutely. You know, Kevin, I want to make

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sure that you have all the time that you need

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to share what you've had happen, because we are going

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to be talking about multiple things occurring today. So I'm

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going to go ahead and pass things over to you

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and feel free to take us back to when you

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first started having these interactions in your past.

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Fair enough, start by saying, you know, none of them

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are the intense, exciting kind of encounters where something chased

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me or you know, anything like that. They're all just

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pretty much weird seeing something really weird. So I guess

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I'll jump right in. The first one would be I

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think I was relatively like eight nine something like that.

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I lived back in Wheeling, West Virginia. War would actually

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my grandparents. I was standing over their house, and their

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house like when you come in the front door, you

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look straight at if you keep walking straight right out

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the back door. But like just to kind of paint

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the picture, the living rooms off to the side, and

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if you cross the hall.

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It goes up the steps to the bedroom.

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And I said good night to my grandparents in the

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living room, turn around and was walking across, like it's

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like two.

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Steps through the hall before you get to the actual stairs.

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And as I did it, I mean, it was just

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you know that that feeling you get where you're like

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something's looking at me, so you kind of I looked

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over to my left, down through the kitchen and right

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up at the back door, like it's the kind of

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door it's like a big wooden door with a window pane.

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It's the top part and the rest of its all

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wood around the bottom, but so about three feet maybe

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off the ground something like that, there were these three

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little heads peeking in like just staring at me, and

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it looked like they were smiling or laughing, and.

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It really creaked me out. And I just kind of

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looked over.

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Saw them and just kind of put my head down,

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scurried up the steps, and completely forgot about that until

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I was like until about eight seven years.

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Ago or something like that. My mom reminded me other

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but yeah, it's really weird.

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The best way I could explain it is they were.

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Like I said, about maybe three four.

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Feet tall, and they had haircuts well or whatever reminiscent

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of like the bowl cut that you kind of see

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on like the Aztec Mayan Ah, I guess groups, so

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like dark hair and just like kind of bowl cuts

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or whatever you want, like kind of like Mo from

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the Three Stooges. All three of them, they were all

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about the same height and just staring in at me.

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And like I said, I couldn't tell they were smiling

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or laughing. And you know, as a little kid, I

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was just kind of freaked out and went right up

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the steps and went to bed.

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Didn't feel little freight or anything.

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That's kind of a reoccurring theme through a couple of

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these encounters or whatever you want to call them. But yeah, I,

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for the life of me, I could not tell you

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what they were. I they weren't other kids. The area

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we lived in, or well, you know, we lived in

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Warwood was it's like kind of like a city the

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way like like inner city blocks are.

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With like an alley behind.

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It, but our alley backed up to the tennis course,

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not other houses. And they had like their own yard

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fencetin garage and patio on the other or driveway on

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the other side of it, So there was nobody, especially

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at that time of night, coming into the yard. And

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I had asked my grandparents, were my cousins over last

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night with a friend or something, and they're like, no, no,

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they're at their moms. And ironically they were in Dover,

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Delaware at the time, which is where I live now,

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but not Dover, but Delaware. But yeah, so there was

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really nobody else in our family or as my friends

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or anybody like other little kids who would fit that

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height that would have been coming up to the back.

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Door staring in like that. Yeah.

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Like I said, it's not like an exciting encounter, but

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it's weird and I still don't know what it is.

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And when you couple it with the other.

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Things that go on throughout my life, it kind of

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fits the bill for that.

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So I don't know who they were, what they were.

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There's no reason to think that they were any other

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person we would know. There's no other reason for anybody

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to be there. But yeah, that's about it for the

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first one, you know, anti climactic there, but but yeah,

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definitely weird, definitely creepy. Freaked me out, and yeah, that

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was kind of it. For that one and the one now,

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I guess in between that one and the one here

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in Delaware. Throughout my entire life, I've had, you know,

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like night terrors and stuff where you wake up screaming,

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really weird ones that don't make much sense, but regardless,

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you wake up terrified. But something else I've dealt with

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a lot is the whole sleep paralysis thing. And it's

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it's not just the sleep paralysis where like you can't move,

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but it's like you wake up and you're kind of awake,

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and like it's like you're you're squinting your eyes, like

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you can barely see out of your eyes at all,

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but you can see enough to recognize your.

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Room or wherever you're sleeping.

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And I mean, it's happened dozens of times, I never counted,

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and it's happened all over the place.

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It happened in West Virginia, Delaware, it happened in Florida once.

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I mean, you name it, any place I've been, it's

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pretty much happened multiple times. The weirdest part of that

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is it's not just the sleep paralysis.

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There are.

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Always three like kind of grayish dark kind of beings, entities.

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I guess I don't know what you want to call them.

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I'm I'm sure like at the best that can playing it.

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A lot of people might say, oh, they're gray aliens, but.

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I don't know what they are.

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But they were always there, either at the side of

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my bed or the foot of my bed, and it's terrifying.

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I mean, it's something that I wouldn't wish on any

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any kid, especially, But over time, I learned to kind

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of breathe my way out.

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Of the sleep paralysis.

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Like it's hard to do, especially when you're in that moment,

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especially when you're younger.

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But eventually I.

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Figured out that, you know, Okay, I'm freaking out, but

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I got to calm down and just start kind of

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controlling my breathing and it'll go away. And when it

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goes away, I wake up and nothing's there. Now I'm

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still kind of freaked out, but there's nothing around my room.

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Everything's how it was. Nobody came in, you know. It

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wasn't like my friends or family or anybody messing with me.

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It was just these three things that would always be there,

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like they're watching me while I'm sleeping, and again, here

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we are. And so that's another one like, there's three

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of those. There were three of the things at the

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back door my grandparents. So that's what I wonder about

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a lot, is like little connections like that. I'm sure

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I'll think of something else to add in as we're going,

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but that, yeah, that's something that's happened throughout my entire life.

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I will say in this in this connects to what

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we mentioned.

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A little bit ago, trauma abuse, everything that falls under

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that category pretty much. I've always been wondering if whatever,

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any of these things are not just what I've seen,

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but you want to talk about Sasquatch, dog Man, any

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of it. Uh, you know, I listened to a lot

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of this stuff, you know, like you show, especially several others.

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I don't know if I should name them or not, but.

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You can name them.

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I don't care. I'm not one of those shows.

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Go ahead, Okay, cool, Well that's awesome because it's all

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big family. In my Sasquatch Chronicles How to Hunt, I

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just forgot to Monstrous with Robert Privo. There's a couple

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of other ones, but those ones and yours are the

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bulk of what I listened to. I kind of bounced

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back and forth and obsessed with this one and then obsessed.

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With that one.

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But throughout all of them, you always end up in

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some not all of them. But there's always some kind

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of you always run into somewhere along the way, whether

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it's some kind of like alcoholism, addiction, sexual abuse, physical, domestic,

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and there's always some kind of trauma. And we're not always,

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but when there is a trauma, it always seems that

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these things show up. And again, no matter which one

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of them it is, any of these entities or cryptis

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or whatever we want to refer to them as, I

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always wonder if do they This might sound silly, but

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do they just feel safer revealing themselves to us, maybe

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because they think nobody will believe this because or this

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or that, Or if because of the trauma, if we

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are in some way, shape or form more open mentally

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in a way, or emotionally or spiritually. Maybe I don't know,

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but I've always wondered, like, is there something about people

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who kind of suffer these things or deal with these

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things that makes them more susceptible of these beings showing

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up in their lives? And that's honestly, the one connection

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I can make with myself is I'm not boohooing or whining,

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but I'm just stating with fact, I've been through a

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lot of crap, no matter what you want to.

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Say, like call it.

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It's been a part of my life since I was

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a little kid. And that makes me wonder if, like

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do they show up because of that, or does that

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lure them in or does it happen because of them?

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You know, it could be any of that stuff. I

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have no idea, but so yeah, I'm just kind of

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throwing that out there.

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That's something I've always wanted to ask, and I've always said,

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if I ever make it on one of these shows,

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I'm going to mention that because I want to hear back.

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I want feedback in the comments. I want to hear

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like what do you people think.

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Does anybody else well especially does anybody else have anybody

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who see these things or dealt with stuff like this.

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I want to know what these things are, but I

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also want to know, like how many people that have

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ended up seeing these things. I mean, yeah, you got

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your hunters who are out there in the woods or

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any like tough stuff like that, But for me, my

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stuff has never been in the woods. The one of

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my grandparents, like word nestled right between the Ohio River

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and like for hills of the Appellachians, but it's on

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the outskirts of Wheeling City.

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So it's not like we're up in the hills. It's

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a relatively populated area.

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Well the other one, Kevin, I will jump in and

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response to your your question there from this side, I mean,

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I can tell you, dude, the amount of interviews I'm

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thinking of right now where the witness says something to

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the effect of I just went through a divorce, or

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I just lost a close family member or fill in

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the blank with just wild you know, wild traumatic experiences.

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That seems to be a huge factor. That is a commonality.

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And I'm not really sure how to explain it, but

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I'm right there with you that a lot of times

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there's a huge traumatic experience that happens with some of

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these witnesses.

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Yeah, that's that's kind of what I was thinking, Like,

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it just seems like and maybe that's something.

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I mean not to get.

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Too into the way we live these days, but the

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way we live these days is kind of off the

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path from what we were probably intended to do. Like

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I'm not going to I'm not trying to go down

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that rabbit hole, but it just seems that we as

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a society don't.

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Really live properly right, And when.

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These kind of traumatic things happen, they kind of like

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tear you down to your core in some way. And

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maybe that kind of it brings you more in touch

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with yourself, which might bring us more in touch with

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who we really are as a species.

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And maybe that's why some of these things.

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Are more interested in us at that time, because we're

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closer to.

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I gotta be careful with my words, I guess, but

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we're raw.

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We're not bogged down in electronics or whatever like things

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that take away from our actual natural being, and it

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really brings us in touch with real life.

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And Trila can do that.

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Triloa is real life, so it's raw and it digs

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up raw emotion. It creates raw emotion, and maybe that's

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something they're interested in. And then you start talking about that.

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There's the whole spiritual warfare thing. I'm not gonna act

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like I know much about it makes sense, but it's

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just like a face value. I don't know too much,

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but it makes sense because if there's something that's attracted

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to negativity, in the spiritual warfare sense, then that would

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kind of fit the bill for that. But yeah, I mean,

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I'm kind of glad to hear that because I was

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wondering if I was kind of seeing something that wasn't there.

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But now I think you're closer than you realize when

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it comes to that. Yeah, yeah, there's definitely something there.

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Would be interesting to see what other people think in

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response to that too.

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So yeah, I will say in the past six or

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seven years, I guess to simplify it, it's been more

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of a healing time for me to where I'm kind

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of getting away from that negativity, that pain, that triuma

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et cetera, and the sleep paralysis stuff has fated, Like

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I think it's happened twice in the past seven years,

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whereas prior to that.

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It was at least two or three times a year.

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So that would kind of you know, stay in connection

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or however you want to say with that theory, So

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makes sense to me, you know, when to move on

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to the next one.

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Yeah, sure, all right.

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So hard to put a certain date on it, Probably

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mid to late oughts, like two thousand, between two thousand

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and six twenty ten, I can't really remember.

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Exactly.

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I was living in the same area for about fourteen years, so.

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They all kind of run together.

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I was at an apartment complex where, like I said,

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I've been living for a while. And here's the crazy

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part is the location of it. If you go on

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to uh I guess google Maps or Google Earth or

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whatever you want to do, when you look at this place,

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it is not wooded at all. It's not rural, not remote.

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It's on the outskirts. It's like right off of I

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ninety five pretty much like maybe a mile from ninety five.

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It's Delaware, but it right up against the PA border.

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Literally in that neighborhood. There's a like five foot stone

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pillar and on one side there's a D for Delaware,

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the other side P for Pennsylvania.

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I think it was dated eighteen eighty eight. That's pretty cool.

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But so it's like literally on the border of Delaware

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in Pennsylvania.

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So yeah, it's there's like a small patch of woods

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in there.

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I wouldn't I wouldn't say it's it's probably maybe close

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to three quarters the size of the football field, and

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it sits in between.

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Town homes and apartments. I don't want to give you

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the name of the apartment complex.

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Only what makes you comfortable, so it is up to you.

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It doesn't bother me.

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But if anybody did want to look look it up

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to see exactly where it was, that's the only reason

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I'd say it. So you can get an idea of

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how not like wooded this place is places right off

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car from the station road. I guess I'll just kind

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of leave it at that. But it's a very very

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small patch of woods with a little creek that sits

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inside of an apartment complex.

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With a lot of people live in it. It's a

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very populated area.

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It's not as populated as the city of Wilmington, but

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we are on the outskirts of it, and lots of

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people here in Delaware because all the businesses junk. But yeah,

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So I was walking from one court that was kind.

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Of up higher, like on a hill.

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So I was walking down the hill from that court

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cutting to the other one.

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And when you cut through.

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This other court to get down to the court that

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I lived in, you end up walking on the side

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of one of the buildings. So on my left there's

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a brick wall that's the end of the apartment building,

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and on my right is that patch of woods and

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it's it was nighttime. I'm not sure how late the

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spotlight was on, so probably after.

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Eight or nine, I guess. And I heard like a

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kind of.

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Like a click or a tick maybe like just kind

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of like not something stepping on a branch, not that

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kind of noise, but kind of like like that. And

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I looked over to my right and probably about I'm

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not good at distances here, but I'll take a while

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shot about fifty yards into the woods, leaning out from

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behind a tree, and I could see one hand on

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the tree and like it's waste up leaning out from

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behind staring at me.

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Is this the best that can describe? It?

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Is a definitely bipedal like standing up, you know, human looking,

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but it's it's made up of like snow or static,

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like when the cable's out.

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I don't know if that happens anymore, so I'm kind

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of showing.

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My age there, I guess, But yeah, it was all

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made up of like the snow static, and it kind

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of gave off not a real intense glow that lit

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up around it, but you could tell.

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That it was like.

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Like so to speak, like kind of bright, I guess.

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And I couldn't tell because of how it was made up,

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I couldn't tell if it had horns or twenty years

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or what. But it was just staring at me. And

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again I didn't feel fear or like to run or

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terror or anything like that. But I was definitely once

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again freaked out, and I just kind of you know,

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a lot of people say like, oh, I do this

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or I did this, but all I did was put

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my head down and keep walking, like just get away

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from it. I don't know what it is, keep walking.

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And that's something again that kind of got blocked out.

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And it's not that wasn't a traumatic thing. It was

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just watching me. But what what was it and what

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was it doing there?

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That's what I want to know too.

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Gonna add to kind of trying to describe it Lord

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of the Rings fame. I don't know if you are,

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but have you ever watched any of those movies?

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Oh?

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Yeah, no, I love Lord of the Rings stuff, So

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I'm gonna get whatever you're saying.

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Okay, do you know when I can't remember if there

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was a Lord of the Rings of the Hobbit. I

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think it was in the Hobbit when Gandalf goes to

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that fortress. Somewhere, and like they call him the Sorcerer

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or the Necromancer. I can't remember, it's Sourn, but he

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like comes out as like a black cloud almost, but

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it's in a it's in the shape of a human.

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Do you know what I'm talking about? Yes, okay, So

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it looked kind of like that, like from the waist up,

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but and too now to the Lord of the Rings,

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you know how the Nine the Nauschool. When I sound

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like a real dork here, I guess when Frodo puts

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the ring on and he sees them and never kind

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of like white and cloudy.

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Oh yeah, I was like, I was guessing that's where

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we were going with the nascall. Yeah, no, I totally

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get it.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.

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But the shape was that of the way that they

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kind of made Sourn's body look I guess, or the

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Necromancer or whatever he's called him in the Hobbit, So

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it kind of looked like that from the waist up,

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but it was made up of like that white kind

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of cloudiness that the Nausgule were but static. I know,

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I'm like all over the place here, but but yeah,

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that's kind of the best that I can describe that again,

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Like that's creepy in itself. But if you were like

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out out in the woods or something, and this is

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going to sound weird, but it might be it might

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make more sense because we're out away from people, out

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in the middle of nowhere, so we might see some

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weird stuff out here. But this was right in the

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middle of a neighborhood, a busy neighborhood, in a busy area.

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What's it doing there? So?

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But yeah, like so, and I've always wondered, like, you know,

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you got the connection of the three things by my

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bed with the sleep paralysis, the three things at the

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back door. Then you kind of got a little bit

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of a connection of like kind of the blurry static

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thing with the thing in the woods, and then like

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the blurriness and the gray sort of of the three

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things by my bed. So I always like obsess over

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things and try to figure out the connections.

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What's what? Are these all the same things? Are they

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all different? What's going on? What are they?

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So that would pretty much be the bulk of any

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happenings with me over time. I can't say there was

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anything else that really stood out. You know, I'll throw

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this out there just because to me it doesn't seem

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like much. But I think I was fifteen roughly. I

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was leaving in Athens, Ohio at the time, and I

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was with my buddy's dad was dropping me off taking

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me home, and we were going from Albany to Athens,

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and we're driving down this back road evening, not dark,

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but getting there and we drive by and on the

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side of the road walking down the road is this

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really big, like not bulky, it was pretty skinny, but

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it was huge, Like to me at that age, it

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was huge.

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It was a wolf.

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It looked like a wolf, like a black wolf with

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kind of greenish yellow eyes.

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They weren't glowing or anything.

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And how I how I was able to see that

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in passing as like a testament to how noticeable they

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were and that, you know, to me, I was just like, wow,

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I saw this big wolf walking down the.

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Side of the road. But then you get older and

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you start hearing this these other things, and it's like,

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wait a minute, what was that?

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And then you look into it and there really are

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no wolves in southeastern Ohio.

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So that happened.

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So, man, Kevin, when you take your whole story and

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look at the whole thing, Uh, You've been able to

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see some really unique stuff from a very early age

468
00:27:43.279 --> 00:27:47.240
and it's just kind of followed you the whole way,

469
00:27:47.519 --> 00:27:49.519
which is really interesting to think about.

470
00:27:52.200 --> 00:27:54.119
That's what it's always felt like.

471
00:27:54.599 --> 00:28:00.000
But I think yeah, and again in today's day and age,

472
00:27:59.799 --> 00:28:00.640
or just in.

473
00:28:00.559 --> 00:28:05.240
General, we kind of get chided, kind.

474
00:28:05.039 --> 00:28:08.640
Of teased or kind of scoffed at if we start

475
00:28:08.680 --> 00:28:11.279
thinking that there's some fantastical.

476
00:28:10.599 --> 00:28:13.799
Thing going on. Well why couldn't there be?

477
00:28:14.519 --> 00:28:17.720
But again that goes to how you know, our cultures

478
00:28:17.759 --> 00:28:24.039
are these days or lack thereof. But yeah, that's what

479
00:28:24.039 --> 00:28:28.680
it's always kind of felt like, like that there's something

480
00:28:28.759 --> 00:28:32.319
to it because it's been happening for a long time

481
00:28:32.359 --> 00:28:35.119
and I'm probably leaving stuff out. I'm probably forgetting a lot,

482
00:28:36.920 --> 00:28:44.319
but just how how weird and like I guess the

483
00:28:44.400 --> 00:28:48.000
timing of things so to speak, like these things happen

484
00:28:48.359 --> 00:28:53.960
when no one else is looking, and you do at

485
00:28:54.000 --> 00:28:57.640
times wonder like is there something wrong with me? Like

486
00:28:57.680 --> 00:29:00.759
am I seeing stuff? Or am I just you know?

487
00:29:00.920 --> 00:29:04.119
Or or things like and then you know, I grew

488
00:29:04.200 --> 00:29:09.319
up in a family that was predominantly Christian church going,

489
00:29:09.480 --> 00:29:09.920
not like.

490
00:29:10.119 --> 00:29:11.480
Hardline or anything, but.

491
00:29:13.400 --> 00:29:15.440
Lawyer or however you want to faithful, I guess you

492
00:29:15.440 --> 00:29:19.079
would say so. Even to even mention some of this

493
00:29:19.200 --> 00:29:24.960
stuff probably get some kind of discipline.

494
00:29:24.440 --> 00:29:26.279
For it or whatever.

495
00:29:26.599 --> 00:29:30.400
You'ren't allowed to listen to Metallica anymore stuff like that.

496
00:29:30.480 --> 00:29:40.640
But were you guys.

497
00:29:38.160 --> 00:29:41.920
Well I I wasn't. They were when I was forced

498
00:29:41.960 --> 00:29:44.720
to go. But it was just a church of God.

499
00:29:46.200 --> 00:29:49.200
I'm not really sure if that falls under any specific

500
00:29:49.319 --> 00:29:52.640
like Baptist or Methodist or anything like that. Honestly, I

501
00:29:52.640 --> 00:29:55.079
couldn't tell you the difference between any of them. But

502
00:29:56.839 --> 00:30:04.200
I'm not a disbeliever. I absolutely believe that there is

503
00:30:04.359 --> 00:30:06.920
a higher power. Well, however you want to put I

504
00:30:06.960 --> 00:30:10.160
absolutely believe that there is a lot more to not

505
00:30:10.400 --> 00:30:15.359
just our existence, but creation and existence altogether, beyond just

506
00:30:15.480 --> 00:30:18.079
our physical you know, flesh and blood.

507
00:30:20.160 --> 00:30:21.559
Work to survive thing.

508
00:30:23.839 --> 00:30:26.119
And it's sad that we've gotten so far away from

509
00:30:26.119 --> 00:30:27.920
that and that we don't pay attention to it, and

510
00:30:27.920 --> 00:30:33.359
that people are made fun of or outcast because they

511
00:30:33.480 --> 00:30:36.359
talk about these kinds of things that they experience like

512
00:30:37.279 --> 00:30:41.039
it's upsetting. But again, that's something that I've gotten used

513
00:30:41.079 --> 00:30:43.519
to over the years with just people in general, which

514
00:30:43.640 --> 00:30:45.160
might be part of the reason I stay away from

515
00:30:45.200 --> 00:30:46.119
most of them.

516
00:30:46.519 --> 00:30:50.079
Did you have like a grandma or grandpa that was

517
00:30:50.240 --> 00:30:56.400
really into things that like maybe your parents would really

518
00:30:56.960 --> 00:30:59.960
be like don't talk to her or anything anything like

519
00:30:59.920 --> 00:31:03.119
that from a relative or or you just seem to

520
00:31:03.119 --> 00:31:03.880
be an outlier.

521
00:31:05.680 --> 00:31:08.920
Uh, To the best of my knowledge, I'm an outlier.

522
00:31:11.519 --> 00:31:17.240
But and unfortunately anyone that I could could have talked

523
00:31:17.240 --> 00:31:21.400
to about it is gone, So there really isn't any

524
00:31:21.440 --> 00:31:26.200
way to find out. And anytime I've my dad, he

525
00:31:26.319 --> 00:31:29.759
worked for the state of West Virginia as an environmental inspector,

526
00:31:30.599 --> 00:31:33.319
so he's out all over the place in West Virginia

527
00:31:33.319 --> 00:31:36.279
in the woods and I asked him, but he said

528
00:31:36.279 --> 00:31:37.440
he's never seen anything.

529
00:31:38.160 --> 00:31:43.440
But he also followed up with I wasn't looking, okay.

530
00:31:43.279 --> 00:31:47.400
Okay, so that yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. So

531
00:31:47.519 --> 00:31:52.079
how did he learn not to look like? I wonder

532
00:31:52.079 --> 00:31:54.319
if something happened where he's like, Okay, I'm just not

533
00:31:54.400 --> 00:31:55.559
going to look from here on out.

534
00:31:56.039 --> 00:32:01.279
You know, I don't know, right, He's I don't want

535
00:32:01.319 --> 00:32:05.000
to like speculate or push any like ideas here, but

536
00:32:05.359 --> 00:32:13.160
he's he's pretty dismissive about the conversation. He and he's

537
00:32:13.200 --> 00:32:15.960
actually he said he's been through the Bermuda Triangle a

538
00:32:16.000 --> 00:32:18.920
few times, and he said he didn't notice anything there.

539
00:32:19.200 --> 00:32:23.519
But it's hard to say. We don't have the closest relationship.

540
00:32:25.319 --> 00:32:30.400
I my parents separated rounds too, so didn't really get

541
00:32:30.440 --> 00:32:33.079
a lot of time to do that. He's still alive,

542
00:32:33.160 --> 00:32:37.200
so I try, but he and that's kind of what

543
00:32:37.240 --> 00:32:39.759
he said. He's like, I've never seen anything, but I

544
00:32:39.960 --> 00:32:44.000
really wasn't trying to look for it, so okay. But

545
00:32:45.200 --> 00:32:48.680
which is crazy because I hear about things in West

546
00:32:48.759 --> 00:32:51.720
Virginia and parts that I know for a fact that

547
00:32:51.759 --> 00:32:55.480
he's either lived or been in, and it just makes

548
00:32:55.519 --> 00:32:59.599
you wonder, like, well, maybe you weren't even thinking about looking,

549
00:32:59.799 --> 00:33:03.799
or maybe you were told not to pay attention or whatever.

550
00:33:04.880 --> 00:33:08.119
But and on that, like these are things like I

551
00:33:08.119 --> 00:33:15.279
don't even mention. But there are numerous times when I

552
00:33:15.359 --> 00:33:17.759
was a kid, like out playing in the woods, because

553
00:33:17.799 --> 00:33:20.599
I did that a lot in West Virginia.

554
00:33:20.640 --> 00:33:22.319
I mean, there's not much else to do, so you

555
00:33:22.440 --> 00:33:23.640
kind of go do whatever.

556
00:33:24.160 --> 00:33:26.440
And I'd go walk around the hills and the woods

557
00:33:26.519 --> 00:33:31.160
lot by myself or with friends in different areas. One

558
00:33:31.200 --> 00:33:34.279
area was by the war would dump it's called I

559
00:33:34.279 --> 00:33:37.599
guess where the trash goes. And I can think of

560
00:33:37.720 --> 00:33:44.759
several occasions there and up in the hills that we

561
00:33:45.119 --> 00:33:50.440
got shouted at or chased and or we heard like

562
00:33:50.480 --> 00:33:52.920
something running through and you just assume, oh, well, that's

563
00:33:52.960 --> 00:33:56.160
we're getting yelled at for being on somebody near somebody's property,

564
00:33:56.319 --> 00:33:58.839
or they're chasing us out here. It's one of the

565
00:33:58.839 --> 00:34:01.720
older kids messing with this, or it's a deer or

566
00:34:01.720 --> 00:34:06.240
this or that, and you don't think about it then

567
00:34:06.720 --> 00:34:11.519
that like you don't even connect it. But then as

568
00:34:11.559 --> 00:34:14.519
the years go by and I start like getting into

569
00:34:14.519 --> 00:34:18.360
this stuff and realizing it for what it is, I

570
00:34:18.440 --> 00:34:23.000
really start to wonder like what was that? Was that

571
00:34:23.159 --> 00:34:25.920
something or was that just what I thought it was,

572
00:34:26.440 --> 00:34:29.280
like just a deer or somebody messing with us. We

573
00:34:29.360 --> 00:34:31.440
never saw anybody, but I can think of several times

574
00:34:31.559 --> 00:34:34.960
we got chased out of places and holler at. But again,

575
00:34:37.360 --> 00:34:41.079
i'd have to experience it and see like, oh, that

576
00:34:41.159 --> 00:34:43.159
was a sasquatch that just yelled at me, or we

577
00:34:43.280 --> 00:34:45.000
just got chased out of here or paste.

578
00:34:44.719 --> 00:34:47.760
Out whatever by a dog man or a sasquatch, So.

579
00:34:47.719 --> 00:34:50.159
I could be like, hey, that happened before but without

580
00:34:50.239 --> 00:34:53.960
that experience and that knowledge and seeing it, I can't

581
00:34:54.000 --> 00:34:59.360
really connect it too. But I absolutely wondered, you know,

582
00:35:00.280 --> 00:35:04.400
were these things, Like was this related to something some little.

583
00:35:04.119 --> 00:35:05.760
Thing that happened when I was a kid that I.

584
00:35:05.760 --> 00:35:08.960
Just thought was kind of funny at the time. Oh,

585
00:35:09.000 --> 00:35:10.880
we almost got in trouble. We got out of there,

586
00:35:11.000 --> 00:35:13.840
you know what I mean? Like, it could be anything.

587
00:35:13.840 --> 00:35:15.840
It could go either way. So I don't really want

588
00:35:15.840 --> 00:35:17.880
to lean hard into it and be like, hey, I

589
00:35:17.920 --> 00:35:20.880
got chased out by a sasquatch, because that's the kind

590
00:35:20.920 --> 00:35:24.920
of stuff that gives the community.

591
00:35:24.480 --> 00:35:28.159
A bad name. And I'm not really trying to do that.

592
00:35:28.199 --> 00:35:30.679
I try to be as honest and realistic about things

593
00:35:30.719 --> 00:35:39.119
as possible because why not, Like what would what do

594
00:35:39.199 --> 00:35:41.440
I have or anybody? What do any of us? That's

595
00:35:41.480 --> 00:35:44.360
the big question is what do any of us have

596
00:35:44.599 --> 00:35:49.440
to gain from coming out and saying this stuff attention?

597
00:35:49.840 --> 00:35:54.800
Why? Like that seems kind of ridiculous to me, But

598
00:35:55.440 --> 00:35:57.199
I'm kind of a goof so maybe I'm wrong.

599
00:35:57.760 --> 00:36:00.320
Yeah, I mean, I mean, most most people do not

600
00:36:00.480 --> 00:36:05.519
have anything to gain, And I mean you don't have

601
00:36:05.880 --> 00:36:09.719
a book coming out from what I know, right, So.

602
00:36:10.039 --> 00:36:12.039
No, I'm not there on the world.

603
00:36:11.880 --> 00:36:16.719
Right exactly exactly. So yeah, I'm I'm right there along

604
00:36:16.960 --> 00:36:21.320
along with you. Now, I do have a few questions

605
00:36:21.559 --> 00:36:27.400
about your delaware sighting. Just it's just some interesting things

606
00:36:27.440 --> 00:36:34.840
I noticed. So you had like two very interesting just

607
00:36:35.719 --> 00:36:38.639
kind of ways to describe it. One is the it

608
00:36:38.679 --> 00:36:40.960
looks snowy or staticky. And I was like, man, I've

609
00:36:40.960 --> 00:36:43.480
heard I've heard that somewhere before. And I was thinking, like,

610
00:36:43.559 --> 00:36:48.199
have I heard this? I have heard this description. I

611
00:36:48.199 --> 00:36:51.039
think it was a gentleman down in South Carolina who

612
00:36:51.119 --> 00:36:54.280
was on the show. But it's a thing where it

613
00:36:54.400 --> 00:36:58.360
is so so rare to hear something like that. And

614
00:36:58.400 --> 00:37:01.199
the other interesting thing you say, and I kind of

615
00:37:01.199 --> 00:37:05.719
odd to clarify it too, is so you could almost

616
00:37:05.800 --> 00:37:09.199
see that it had horns or pointed ears.

617
00:37:10.840 --> 00:37:16.960
Yeah, like because like you, because you could make out

618
00:37:17.280 --> 00:37:21.280
its head. It was it was skinny so to speak,

619
00:37:21.400 --> 00:37:24.880
I mean for what I could tell, but because of

620
00:37:24.920 --> 00:37:30.079
its makeup being the static whatever, all I could see

621
00:37:30.199 --> 00:37:33.280
is there were like two raised things on its head

622
00:37:33.960 --> 00:37:34.960
that could either be.

623
00:37:35.039 --> 00:37:39.079
Horns or pointy ears. So and that's all.

624
00:37:39.480 --> 00:37:43.719
And it's this isn't something that I forget it all.

625
00:37:43.760 --> 00:37:47.239
What it looks like it's kind of stuck in my head.

626
00:37:47.800 --> 00:37:50.199
So I if I could draw, if I could draw,

627
00:37:50.559 --> 00:37:52.199
I could easily draw it for you.

628
00:37:53.320 --> 00:37:59.679
I can't draw it all, but yeah, I can't.

629
00:38:00.159 --> 00:38:02.519
Like again, I can't decide one or the other because

630
00:38:02.519 --> 00:38:05.159
I couldn't really see the makeup of it. But all

631
00:38:05.159 --> 00:38:07.000
I could tell is that on the left and the

632
00:38:07.039 --> 00:38:09.719
right side of its heads like a pop it had,

633
00:38:10.119 --> 00:38:11.880
you know, raised something.

634
00:38:14.079 --> 00:38:18.880
So the weird thing about that is the one time

635
00:38:19.599 --> 00:38:23.559
that I've had a witness say anything close to this.

636
00:38:24.480 --> 00:38:31.800
It was gentlemen, it was a Pennsylvania episode, and he

637
00:38:32.320 --> 00:38:37.840
was talking about the bigfoot creatures that were around the

638
00:38:37.880 --> 00:38:40.800
house where he was staying in, and he said that

639
00:38:40.880 --> 00:38:43.920
they had horns as well. The weird thing is that

640
00:38:43.960 --> 00:38:50.599
this happened over by not quite the Philadelphia, kind of

641
00:38:50.639 --> 00:38:52.960
on the outskirts, and I believe it was area called

642
00:38:53.000 --> 00:38:56.519
Drexel Hill, which is less than twenty miles away from Wilmington.

643
00:38:57.360 --> 00:38:59.719
And yeah, that kind of thing, that is that kind

644
00:38:59.760 --> 00:39:01.519
of thing makes you wonder, dude, you know.

645
00:39:02.719 --> 00:39:05.800
It really does. I'm not sure what.

646
00:39:05.880 --> 00:39:10.960
I'm kind of more flabbergrasted word there about the fact

647
00:39:11.000 --> 00:39:13.760
that somebody else has seen something like this, because again,

648
00:39:13.840 --> 00:39:15.880
I've watched a lot of this stuff.

649
00:39:15.880 --> 00:39:17.880
You can ask the wife. She gets a little irritated

650
00:39:17.880 --> 00:39:25.280
with it because it's all I watch. And I think I.

651
00:39:25.199 --> 00:39:30.039
Think I've heard I probably thousands or hundreds to maybe

652
00:39:30.039 --> 00:39:33.599
a thousand episodes of content that I've listened to and watched.

653
00:39:33.840 --> 00:39:37.360
I think I've heard one or two that came close

654
00:39:37.440 --> 00:39:42.119
to it, And so that.

655
00:39:41.079 --> 00:39:43.440
That's kind of it's kind of.

656
00:39:45.960 --> 00:39:49.760
Gratifying in a way, I guess, or I guess something

657
00:39:49.800 --> 00:39:51.880
like that, but it's also.

658
00:39:51.840 --> 00:39:55.360
Kind of like, wow, Okay, I'm not all known. That's good,

659
00:39:55.480 --> 00:39:57.239
that's a start. That's why I'm here.

660
00:39:59.199 --> 00:40:02.440
But then not just to know that somebody else saw

661
00:40:02.519 --> 00:40:08.320
something like that, but it was within Wan's see Drexel

662
00:40:08.480 --> 00:40:11.320
Hill to where I'm at, Like I'm not in Wilmington.

663
00:40:11.360 --> 00:40:18.440
Wilmington is about five to ten miles I guess southwest

664
00:40:19.079 --> 00:40:19.360
of me.

665
00:40:19.920 --> 00:40:25.199
Drexel Hill is probably ten to fifteen.

666
00:40:25.239 --> 00:40:27.920
I'm not exactly sure if it gets kind of confusing

667
00:40:28.000 --> 00:40:29.639
to all the back roads and such, because I don't

668
00:40:29.639 --> 00:40:32.960
like ninety five, but it's not far so to know

669
00:40:33.000 --> 00:40:36.800
that somebody saw something very similar or the same thing

670
00:40:36.840 --> 00:40:41.719
that I did. Within a let's just let's just to

671
00:40:42.559 --> 00:40:45.760
be safe, we'll give it a fifty mile radius, which

672
00:40:45.800 --> 00:40:48.079
is a lot more as being very generous.

673
00:40:50.159 --> 00:40:52.239
That's that's something man.

674
00:40:54.239 --> 00:40:56.719
That actually, in a weird way makes me feel good,

675
00:40:56.800 --> 00:40:58.960
like excited, like oh cool, we're getting closer.

676
00:40:59.480 --> 00:41:00.239
And that's that's that's.

677
00:41:00.159 --> 00:41:03.960
Exactly why I wanted to do this is in hopes

678
00:41:04.079 --> 00:41:08.079
that well, in this case, you have that information, but

679
00:41:08.360 --> 00:41:10.559
maybe somebody else will hear and add to it.

680
00:41:11.760 --> 00:41:15.519
That's, for lack of a better term, that's awesome. Like

681
00:41:16.480 --> 00:41:17.519
that kind of makes my.

682
00:41:17.599 --> 00:41:21.559
Day, Like I feel like I'm sorry, man, but there's

683
00:41:21.599 --> 00:41:23.719
like I'm feeling like a little bit of a sense

684
00:41:23.719 --> 00:41:28.480
of relief here, like cool, I'm not the only one.

685
00:41:30.880 --> 00:41:32.760
That's interesting. I did not know.

686
00:41:32.719 --> 00:41:36.880
That, you know, it really makes you think and I man,

687
00:41:36.960 --> 00:41:40.800
I got so much flak for putting that episode out.

688
00:41:40.840 --> 00:41:43.920
But again, what I do is I provide a platform

689
00:41:44.000 --> 00:41:48.400
for people to share what they've experienced. And when you

690
00:41:48.480 --> 00:41:51.159
do that and you don't you know, I'm going to

691
00:41:51.239 --> 00:41:54.000
take this but not this type deal like you just

692
00:41:54.639 --> 00:41:58.280
let the people talk. You find patterns, and this is

693
00:41:59.119 --> 00:42:02.960
a potential examsample of finding a pattern in area and

694
00:42:03.679 --> 00:42:08.880
who knows where it might lead. But yeah, and such

695
00:42:09.079 --> 00:42:14.320
such an interesting You're so you're not having sleep paralysis anymore, right, Kevin.

696
00:42:15.119 --> 00:42:16.400
No, I don't think.

697
00:42:16.599 --> 00:42:20.039
I think it's been like two or three years since

698
00:42:20.079 --> 00:42:23.239
the last time I've had it, and before.

699
00:42:22.960 --> 00:42:26.119
That maybe about a year prior to that one.

700
00:42:27.000 --> 00:42:28.719
And then like I said, with in like the past,

701
00:42:28.800 --> 00:42:33.000
I don't know, five to six I think six years. Well,

702
00:42:33.039 --> 00:42:35.519
since my daughter's seven, so since she's been born, I

703
00:42:35.519 --> 00:42:37.920
think I've only had it like two or three times.

704
00:42:38.159 --> 00:42:38.920
That's not true.

705
00:42:39.679 --> 00:42:42.400
I've had it about five times, but the first three

706
00:42:42.599 --> 00:42:45.000
or within the first year of her being born, So

707
00:42:45.119 --> 00:42:50.800
within the past six years, I've had it about twice. Yeah,

708
00:42:50.880 --> 00:42:55.239
So and that's yeah, it just hasn't been happening as

709
00:42:55.320 --> 00:42:56.079
much anymore.

710
00:42:56.440 --> 00:42:58.360
And again I don't know.

711
00:42:58.440 --> 00:43:01.480
I had no clue, but with the information that I have,

712
00:43:02.679 --> 00:43:06.119
what I can like kind of derive from that is

713
00:43:06.159 --> 00:43:11.880
that the common thing there is that I've been doing

714
00:43:11.920 --> 00:43:19.880
better mentally and emotionally, kind of separating myself from the negativity.

715
00:43:20.800 --> 00:43:22.280
And therapy.

716
00:43:22.440 --> 00:43:26.800
You know, it's a wonderful thing, it is, And honestly,

717
00:43:26.840 --> 00:43:29.199
that's what this has turned into. Because I'll be honest

718
00:43:29.199 --> 00:43:30.880
with you, man, I can't thank you enough. I know

719
00:43:30.920 --> 00:43:35.519
it sounds silly, maybe because it wasn't like an intense,

720
00:43:35.719 --> 00:43:42.119
life threatening encounter, but just hearing you say again not

721
00:43:42.159 --> 00:43:44.639
only that somebody else saw this, but it was very

722
00:43:44.639 --> 00:43:45.320
close to here.

723
00:43:46.039 --> 00:43:47.599
I almost teared up a little bit.

724
00:43:47.760 --> 00:43:52.199
The relief that came from that, like the like, okay, cool,

725
00:43:52.960 --> 00:43:57.840
that's good. But yeah, I'm pretty thankful for that.

726
00:43:57.960 --> 00:43:58.159
Man.

727
00:43:58.280 --> 00:44:03.719
Like the therapeutic aspect of what you're doing and how

728
00:44:03.760 --> 00:44:06.400
you mentioned how you're doing it, You're not you're not

729
00:44:06.440 --> 00:44:09.079
singling anything out, you're not pushing anyone to the side

730
00:44:09.119 --> 00:44:13.360
because it doesn't need a certain narrative or certain you know,

731
00:44:14.480 --> 00:44:17.119
aspect of the things you want to talk about. You're

732
00:44:17.159 --> 00:44:20.679
just letting people talk about what they've seen or what's

733
00:44:20.679 --> 00:44:21.760
happened to them.

734
00:44:22.079 --> 00:44:23.079
And you're right, man.

735
00:44:23.320 --> 00:44:24.719
Like it.

736
00:44:24.880 --> 00:44:25.800
It's the long game.

737
00:44:26.400 --> 00:44:28.039
Like you know, a lot of people want to go

738
00:44:28.079 --> 00:44:31.960
for the short term and just get like the big

739
00:44:32.000 --> 00:44:35.159
shows and the big episodes with the big encounters and

740
00:44:35.199 --> 00:44:39.159
the big audience. Well, that dies off. That's not lasting.

741
00:44:39.239 --> 00:44:41.800
There's no staying power in that. But when you have

742
00:44:41.920 --> 00:44:46.280
something as powerful as the truth and it's developed in

743
00:44:46.320 --> 00:44:51.199
the patterns, especially over time, that is where that's the

744
00:44:51.239 --> 00:44:53.960
real deal, as they would say, like that's where you

745
00:44:54.000 --> 00:44:58.559
really sink your teeth into something and start putting stuff together.

746
00:44:58.639 --> 00:45:03.159
And patience, I mean, you can't put a price on patience. Like, so,

747
00:45:03.760 --> 00:45:06.599
thank you for what you're doing. Man, I really appreciate this.

748
00:45:07.039 --> 00:45:10.360
I always have. Everybody I mentioned who I watch and

749
00:45:10.440 --> 00:45:14.920
listen to I always have appreciated. But for you, specifically,

750
00:45:15.119 --> 00:45:17.960
solely based off of what you said about somebody else

751
00:45:17.960 --> 00:45:20.960
seeing it close by here, I gotta thank you for

752
00:45:21.039 --> 00:45:22.840
that because that makes me feel.

753
00:45:24.039 --> 00:45:25.480
A sense of relief.

754
00:45:26.960 --> 00:45:29.480
That's that's great to hear, Kevin, and thank you so much.

755
00:45:29.559 --> 00:45:34.480
I mean, that's probably the best way anyone has ever

756
00:45:34.559 --> 00:45:40.400
conveyed what you just conveyed, and just it helps it

757
00:45:40.440 --> 00:45:42.559
helps me a lot as well. But man, it has

758
00:45:42.679 --> 00:45:49.559
been just such a such a great conversation with you.

759
00:45:50.039 --> 00:45:53.079
And it sounds like you have you know, things under

760
00:45:53.079 --> 00:45:57.199
control now. But if you ever, you know, if things

761
00:45:57.280 --> 00:46:00.840
do ever happen in the future, feel free to reach

762
00:46:00.880 --> 00:46:07.199
out at a later time. But yeah, what a story

763
00:46:07.440 --> 00:46:11.280
that you have going through the years, and I'm glad

764
00:46:11.320 --> 00:46:13.760
you're in the place that you are now. Sounds like

765
00:46:13.800 --> 00:46:15.039
you have a good handle on things.

766
00:46:16.559 --> 00:46:18.840
I appreciate that man, Thank you very much.

767
00:46:19.440 --> 00:46:22.320
And yeah, actually you know, we don't do much, but

768
00:46:22.400 --> 00:46:25.079
we try to take our daughter camping when we can,

769
00:46:25.599 --> 00:46:29.679
so who knows anything else comes my way?

770
00:46:29.760 --> 00:46:31.280
I will absolutely let you know.

771
00:46:31.360 --> 00:46:36.639
Brother swant to say thank you seriously to all of

772
00:46:36.639 --> 00:46:39.519
you listening to the Big for Society podcast, And if

773
00:46:39.519 --> 00:46:42.440
you're watching on YouTube, hit the subscribe button and tap

774
00:46:42.480 --> 00:46:44.239
the bell so you never miss an episode. And if

775
00:46:44.320 --> 00:46:47.079
Kevin's story gave you chills or made you rethink what's

776
00:46:47.079 --> 00:46:49.800
possible in a quiet West Virginia neighborhood or a Delaware

777
00:46:49.840 --> 00:46:53.280
would lot, please share this episode with a friend if

778
00:46:53.280 --> 00:46:55.360
you're listening on Apple or Spotify, and make sure you're

779
00:46:55.360 --> 00:46:58.039
following the show and drop a quick review. Helps way

780
00:46:58.039 --> 00:47:00.840
more than you might think, and listen. If you or

781
00:47:00.880 --> 00:47:06.440
someone you know has had a Bigfoot encounter, especially around Wheeling, Warwood, Athens, Albany, Bolmington,

782
00:47:06.920 --> 00:47:10.360
or near the Delaware Pennsylvania border, shoot me an email

783
00:47:10.400 --> 00:47:12.800
at Bigfoot Society gmail dot com. I'd love to hear

784
00:47:12.840 --> 00:47:16.519
your account. Hey, big thanks again to Kevin for his courage,

785
00:47:16.559 --> 00:47:19.079
his honesty in letting us into a story that's more

786
00:47:19.119 --> 00:47:22.679
than just sightings. It's about healing as well, So until

787
00:47:22.719 --> 00:47:26.599
next time, stay curious and stay safe. Remember, just because

788
00:47:26.599 --> 00:47:29.079
you didn't see it doesn't mean that it wasn't there.