July 8, 2025

It's in Their Eyes!

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Season 1

Join Bigfoot Society as host Jeremiah engages with Mark, a lifelong outdoorsman, about his thrilling Bigfoot encounters. Mark shares captivating stories from his youth in Illinois and his adult life in Tennessee. Mark recounts eerie eye-shine sightings of Sasquatch with glowing red eyes, mysterious tree structures twisted by unknown forces, and unsettling experiences with strange animal behaviors. From hearing unsettling owl calls that seemed too loud to be normal owls, to discovering deer carcasses with skin mysteriously stripped, Mark's encounters are both intriguing and unnerving. He also discusses his theories on what Bigfoot might be and his advice for those venturing into Sasquatch territory. This episode offers a deep dive into Mark's personal account of Bigfoot activity, providing listeners with a unique perspective on these mysterious creatures in the woods of Tennessee and Illinois.

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slash the big for Society and now let's get on

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with the show. All right, Bigfoot Society, You've got the

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privilege of talking to Mark today. Mark's an individual that

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got connected to through YouTube and then he wanted to

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share a few interesting things that have happened through his

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life in different locations. So Mark, welcome to the show today.

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How's it going man, Good Jeremiah, how you doing doing great?

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Always a good night when I'm able to talk to

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someone about their Bigfoot interactions and learn some stuff, and

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I enjoy that and give you a platform to share

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what happened to you. So you know, Mark, I know

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that you've already said before that we've got a lot

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of ground to cover, So you know, I'm going to

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go ahead and give the mic over to you, and

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we'll see where we go from here.

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Man, Okay, But like I said, you interject any time

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you like, Yes, sir, Yeah, all right. I got a

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lot of stories. Well, the main reason I had called

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this place wasn't too or when I say this place,

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I'm in your podcast. I've been listening to you for

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a while, and I've been listening to podcasts sasquatch podcasts

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for a good almost ten years now, and lately I've

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gotten board with a lot of the other ones before

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I came across yours, and some recently it's like they'll

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show a picture of a sasquatch with a monkey nose,

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and I will not look at those at all. These

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things have a hooded nose, they don't have a monkey nose.

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And if it's got a monkey nose, go to some

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other podcast and come to Jeremiah, because he's got pictures

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of him. They kind of look right. So I can

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agree with.

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That, thank you. I try.

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But the main reason I hear I've heard a podcast.

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Am I allowed to say the number? Sure? Yeah, go

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right ahead, Okay, episode six sixty there was this lady

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on and you know, I don't call any This is

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the first podcast I've ever talked to or even emailed.

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But anyway, she was so upset about this place where

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I used to run around when I was a kid,

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that she got walked out of the Garden of the

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Gods since she was just terrified, and the whole episode

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she couldn't stop being terrified.

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So I thought, you know, that's happened to me my

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entire life.

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I moved there when I was a kid, when I

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was about fourteen fifteen years old, with.

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My father and the family what.

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Little he had left, and we lived right at the

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edge of that not guarded gods, but in that area.

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I won't say where. But they're just just all kinds

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of experiences. But when I was a kid, I didn't

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know that. What I knew about sasquatches was I knew

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about the Patterson Gimlin film and at the time when

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I was a kid, I thought, well, that's the last

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crazy wild animal.

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They're about to go excinct, And yeah, makes sense.

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They're out west down in California somewhere, But there's no

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way that they're still here, just like there's no bears,

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there's no saberty tigers and such. But anyway, I used

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to run around the woods when I was a kid

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because there was nothing better to do, and so many

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times I just can't count them. They got to the

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point where I just stopped paying attention that I heard

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the same sounds that she heard, and they just follow

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you out And I have stopped and turned around and yelled.

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At something that's not there. It's like, who are you?

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Where are you?

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Why are you following me?

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I've screamed that out loud on my way home because

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I used to do, like, I don't know, five six

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miles one mile. I used to go down this creek

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and I guess I was entertainment for them because I

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used to just run down there and before parkour was

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a thing. The further down the creek bed you go

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the bigger the rocks, kid, and you have to jump,

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and I had it. It was like playing hopscotch for me,

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I guess on a grander scale, and I would jump

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from one to the other and I'd get to the

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end and I'm just out of breath, and it's about

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a mile and a half long. And then when I'm

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walking back, and this is on an easy day, just

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when I'm out playing, and then on my walk back,

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you know, I'm still worn out. But then by the

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time we get about I don't know, half mile from

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home or a quarter or three quarters a mile from home.

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I hear all these leaves just swish, wish wish.

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Once I get into the leaves, after I get out

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of the canyon, and I get in the leaves, and

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I hear all this. And I even tried to, you know,

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pretend you're going to take a step and down, and

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caught them a couple of times doing that.

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It's like they put their foot down.

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But when there's no such thing as a sounsquatch and

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you have no answer for that, you still have to

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go about your merry way. And it's like, well, okay,

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I'll just shrug my shoulders. Same thing with uh tree knox.

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I heard so many treeochs in my life.

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I just ignore them now I don't even pay attention

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to them anymore. And well, I learned about a tree kock.

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A lot of people think that's a warning I don't

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think that's a warning. I think that is well kind

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of an invitation. They let you know. They're trying to

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let you know that they know that you're there, and

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you're supposed to pay attention, and you're supposed to not respond,

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but to be aware, and they know what you're thinking.

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You don't have to respond, whether you don't have to

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go tear down a tree and make yourself a baseball

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bat hit a tree with it to respond. They just

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want you to know that there. And I think it

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irritates them that the people that walk by and don't understand.

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It makes them angry. They're not looking for attention necessarily,

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but you need to know as you walk past this

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point there's a possibility of danger. I'm not saying that

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they're all killers. Some are, some aren't.

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Mark, Can you take a minute. I'm just really curious

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if if someone was to ask you what you think

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bigfoot is, how do you describe what they are?

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I'll tell you what it isn't okay, it's not a gigantopithecus.

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The amount of things that that animal.

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Would have to do. Number One, they've only found a

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tooth and part of a jaw bone, and then they

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built a beast around it somehow.

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That's just not good enough for me. I need more evidence.

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And from what they found, they said he ate bamboo

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all the time, you know, just a big bamboo eater.

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It's pretty hard for an animal to switch from being

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just a herbivore to go on straight to straight meat

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like supposedly is hospital. Well, they're an omnivore. They'll eat anything,

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and it's really difficult in the amount of time that

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it takes for something to evolve, if that exists, even

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to get all the way across the bearing straight from China,

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to get over to the Rocky Mountains and all that

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stuff or whatever in Alaska and the Yukon, and turn

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yourself to the sas cross that is now planting trees

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upside down with the roots sticking up in the air.

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It's a really far stretch from me. So I know,

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it's not that. There's a lot of stories I've heard

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about you know, DNA, and you know people have gathered

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DNA on these things, but they've traced one side.

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I don't know enough about it. I'm not an expert.

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They've traced one side, and I don't know if it's

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tied to us, and then there's another and then the

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other side. It's like it's a it's nothing on the planet.

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It's nothing that we've had any experience with. We don't

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know this particular DNA. So I don't know what to

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think about that. I don't know if everybody knows and

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it's shut down. You know, there's a lot of theories

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out there. They say they're they're nephelin, and that's a

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possibility after what I've seen of these things. I mean,

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I've never seen nothing like what I saw, and anyway,

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but you know, maybe if it has anything, maybe something

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has something to do with some kind of religion or whatever.

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And there's you know, half the world is trying to

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shut that down and the other half is trying to

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promote the other. So I don't think we're ever gonna

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find out unless they rise up. I can't imagine fifty

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of these guys grouping together and then start running their neighborhoods.

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That would just be a bad thing what they are.

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But they're not a monkey. I know they're not a monkey.

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They sound like a monkey, they act like a monkey sometimes,

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and I got monkey stories because they did monkey things

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to me. But they're still not a monkey. It's really

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they are a frightful thing. But I didn't know it

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when I was a kid. When I was younger, you know,

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just walk around the duck's back. I had bigger and

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better things do. One thing I didn't do is like

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there's a lot of people on podcasts say there they

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hunt a lot.

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They've hunted all their lives.

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They've been out in the woods, they've shot things of

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all that stuff, And like, I never did that.

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I was always quiet.

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I tried, Like when I was telling you about running

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down that creek, I was trying to be as quiet

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as I possibly could. But I never saw many animals.

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I've had a lot of deers walk up on me.

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You know, I've had a lot of wild animal experiences.

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But you know, I just I wasn't a hunter. People

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ask me, and I know how to people ask me.

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Do you hunt? Yeah, when when I'm hungry do you fish?

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I fish when when I'm hungry. That's the only time

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I hunt fish. But I'm very good at it. But

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I just don't go out and make you know. I

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don't throw a bunch of orange on and sit in

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the top of a tree about twenty feet high I

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just don't. I'm not interested in any of that. So

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I've always been able to feed myself when I need it.

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But you know, you know they're grocery stores too. I'm

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not an animal activists. I don't believe in killing these things,

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but you know, I think they're out there for a reason,

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and that reason is that things, you know, times get tough,

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There'll be plenty of food out there for me. I

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don't need to be go out there killing everything every

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year and there's six or seven less than there was

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before hunting season. I just don't do it because I'm

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not that hungry. Huh So anyway, and so far as

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what you're asked me, I'll try to get back on

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track here.

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They're not a monkey.

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It's a secret, but somebody knows the end of that

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secret because they're not telling us they You can't talk

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to anybody that you know, they'll make you look I mean,

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I got a lot of people that I've tried to

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tell this to. No I would call them. I guess

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normal people thought would be willing to hear this part

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of what I saw or experienced, and they'll shut you

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down immediately, make you look like a fool. They could

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be a friend of yours and they'll do it. I've

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had plenty of those do it. And it's not like

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I'll never speak to you again kind of thing. It's

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like they don't even want you to bring it up.

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Up in ILLINOII, no one goes out and runs around

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the woods like I did.

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No One, I mean nobody.

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Nobody went to school with I was up there for

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a good five years before I joined the Navy. I

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had to get out of there because there's no jobs,

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so I had to join the military.

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I didn't have to.

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I just thought I was going to be a Navy

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seal and.

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Blah blah lah. Next thing, I know them in San Diego.

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So anyhow, everybody up there, all the people had lived there,

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all the lives. Like I said, I only moved there

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when I was like fourteen fifteen years old. Probably visited

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once when I was twelve or thirteen. I had a

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house in Tennessee. I was in Tennessee. I lived on

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a hill in a hollow, in a hollow on a hill,

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I kind of and I had this house.

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Somebody had built it. I bought it for a song.

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I was married, but uh, my dogs were sitting on

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the porch middle of kind of kind of in the

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middle of nowhere. You got neighbors, but you can't see

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or hear them. So I'm sitting on the couch watching

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TV and my and my door's always open. So the

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dogs just they just started barking. Hair on their back

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came up because they were just hanging out on the porch,

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and they ran straight in the house and ran straight

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to the bedroom, which they never do, or are allowed

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to do. They come in the house, but they're just

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they're not going to be sleeping in the bed and

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stuff like that.

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But anyhow, I thought that was odd.

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I'm going and they're barking all the way inside the house.

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What are you doing? I mean, something that never happens.

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So I kind of get up. I look around the

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corner where they went. They're nowhere to be seen. They're

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hiding under the bed or something. So I got to

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the fORCH and I got like a thirty five white

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light on my porch, and I'm looking around, looking around,

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and I looked down and I see the eye shine

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and I had this big brush pile where I'd cut

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all these shrubs away. I'd just gotten I had gotten

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back from Florida, and the shrubs crew to like twenty

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feet tall. You know, they're kind of shrubs you if

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you don't trim, and they're going to go nuts. So

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i'd cut all those out, and I made this big

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brush pile down the hill, not you know, ten fifteen

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feet off the porch, and so I see these two

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red eyes coming through there. And the first thing I

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thought was, well, I've never seen red eye shine in

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my life. I don't know what this is. And so

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I'm standing there waiting for it to come through, because

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obviously that's what my dogs were barking at.

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There was a coon, but.

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I've never known a dog run from the coon. So

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all these thoughts are going through my at the time,

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all at the same time. So I was like, okay, okay,

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come through, come through. It looked like coming towards me,

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coming towards me, coming towards me, and it was an

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optical illusion. Then I realized, I'm not looking at something

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coming through this brush pile. I'm looking at something that's

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on the opposite side of the brush pile. Now I

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can see through that and this thing's looking right at me.

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And then I want to describe the eyeshine, It's not eyeshine.

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You can see inside the scull of these things. No

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one's going to believe this, and I don't care. I

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know what I saw.

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Big for society. Who will be right back after these messages.

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I know what happened.

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It looks like if you've got a little camp fire

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or something like that, and the coals or after all

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the woods burnt down, and you see all the coals

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and it's swirling around in the same colors.

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It's inside their head, it's in their eyes, and they're

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looking at you with that. I'm going, what is that?

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What is that? And I even said that, I said

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what are you doing? I said what are you doing?

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And this thing took one step towards me again, and

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it was so black you couldn't see the body. All

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you could see was its eyes. It was so black out.

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There was overcast guys, that night. It wasn't raining. It

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was just overcast, you know, no starlight, no nothing. All

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I had was that stupid light which didn't shine into

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the forest far enough to light up anything. And this

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thing just kind of it gave me and it looked autistic.

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I have an autistic cousin, and I know what that

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looked looked like, and it looked autistic, and it looked

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off to its right, which was to my left. I

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had a spring down the hill from there, water spring,

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and it was kind of dry at the time, and

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I think it just came up to get.

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A drink of water.

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The dogs barked at it and came up and started

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to come up to the porch by the.

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Time I went out there.

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But anyway, I saw those eyes and it's not that

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it's just like a red light, you know, not like

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a flashlight. There are things swirling inside there, just like

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it's like spirals. It was amazing, but I still shrugged

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that off. I didn't know what it was. I didn't

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know what to call it. I wasn't into bigfoot. I

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kind of was, you know. I was still had the

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opinions like boy, every place I went, because I used

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to ride a horse from there, a couple of miles

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from the house, just a feeder, you know, every day

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or so, you know, single back or a single rain

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bare back. I'm kind of an Indian and anyhow, you know,

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during that time, that was in the nineties, I think

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you know, that was in the nineties when that happened,

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and anyhow, it just turned its head and walked away.

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I walked in the house, sat down. I got the

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dogs out of the bedroom. I had to go back

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there and calm in down, tell them everything was okay.

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They finally came back out, but they wouldn't go back

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out on the porch. They stayed. They stated that they

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stayed in the living room and watched TV. They weren't

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interested in going out there anymore. And I wasn't afraid.

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Didn't scare me. I just thought, well, I'll figure this

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out later, because you know, I spotlighted a lot of animals,

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and I know what color eyes are, and this is

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just to me, was just an animal I hadn't spotlighted

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yet or seen, and I'll figure it out later. I

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wasn't afraid. It wasn't scared. But now thinking back, see

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this thing was about eight feet tall because where it

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was shining through this breast pile was a straight down

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slope that just like you can't walk down it. If

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you get over that edge, you're going to be on

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a slide. You're just going to slide down in the mud.

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So how this thing had walked up to me through

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that brush pile. It was standing, I mean ten feet

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down nine ten feet down, and its eyes, it's.

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The level of its eyes didn't climb higher.

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It just kind of stayed straight and once it got

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to a certain point it stopped. And when I asked,

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what are you doing? It turned and walked away. It

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was kind of like an It wasn't apologetic. Look, it's like,

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you know, sorry, I just came to get a drink

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of water. You know, this is what I've come up

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with later on in life, but I didn't understand at

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the time, and I just went about my business.

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Mark, Do you feel like it understood you when you

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said that to it?

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Yes? Absolutely.

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Why do you say that.

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Because they do it now to me to this day.

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I just went back to those places I was telling

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you about when I was a kid, just a couple

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of years ago or a year ago. I'm a mushroom

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hunter and extraordinary kind of not real successful at it.

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But you know, I went back to the same place

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just a year or two years, and they know who

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I am. They dropped off a bobcat. I had to

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put a bobcat back, and there were two coons, and

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that was more wildlife than I'd seen in a lot

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of years when I was running out there. That was

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one other thing. When I was running around, I'm trying

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to be as quiet as I possibly can. I was

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practicing on being as quiet as I possibly could. I'm

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not out there making a bunch of racket, and that

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was always my goal. I used to go out walking

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to friends of mine and I wouldn't make it a quarter

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mile and I turned around take them back home because

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they can't shut their mouths. I have a rule of like,

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don't speak. Don't talk when you're out here in the

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woods with me. You're not allowed to speak because I'm

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hunting anything. Just don't say a word. Don't say there's

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nothing to talk. I'm in about with something and nothing

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serious happened, so there's no reason for you to say anything.

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And I think they have a little respect for that.

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And they watched me do that as a child. I

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didn't just run down there one day and have this

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little exercise. I used to do that constantly because there's nothing,

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absolutely nothing to do there.

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Nothing.

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When turned me into a wild animal.

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Oh boy, okay, yeah yeah, yeh yeah, when they left

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the bobcat and the other animals for you, what physical

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state were those animals left.

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In well Wed.

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Me and my girlfriend had walked down the creek and like,

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you know, she knows not to talk, and let's don't

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take anybody take offense to that. She's like, she's kind

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of like me. So, yeah, I were walking down there.

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I'm being careful with her, so I'm having to concentrate

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on making sure she's okay because it's not an environment

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she's used to. Right, We're not thundering down the creek,

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and like, look at.

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This, look at that. Hey, this is what I used.

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To do here. I wasn't doing that. We're being quiet.

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We're just walking down there, walking slow. She knows the

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history of place, you know, so she was fully aware,

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no surprise to her. But surprisingly enough she managed to

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spraining her ankle and so we sat down to rest.

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And I hadn't gotten to I was just maybe a

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quarter a mile away from my adjective because there's something

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really a bunch of cool stuff at the end. So

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I'm looking down the creek, looking down the creek, and

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we had two dogs with us, so my dog had

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gone to the top. So you're in kind of like

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a little miniature canyon. The woods are straight up and down,

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not straight up and down. But you don't want to

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get up there and try to climb out of that

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creek bed. The creek bed is essentially your road and

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your highway. You're not going to wander around anywhere other

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than the creek bed, but in places. So this dog

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comes down with what looks like from off the top

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of the hill behind me. We had sat down to

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rest and decide we're going to turn around get out

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of there, and uh, my dog comes down the hill

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with something in his mouth. It looks like a.

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Squirrel, and I thought, oh, geez, don't kill the squirrel.

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I don't want to have to. I don't want to

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deal with no squirrel today, you know, just don't do it.

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So I go over there. I said no, no, no, no, no,

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because I'm thinking she's getting ready choump it. But she

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wasn't being motherly about it. She had found a bob

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cat kitten, brought it down to the bottom and set

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it down before he even got there.

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You know, she's like looking at her what is this?

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So I could go and tell you how I thought

443
00:23:41.759 --> 00:23:44.960
that may have happened, but it was just weird, weird,

444
00:23:45.039 --> 00:23:46.799
And so I pick up this cat, and I go,

445
00:23:46.920 --> 00:23:47.640
what is going on?

446
00:23:47.720 --> 00:23:50.039
Why is there a cat out here in the middle

447
00:23:50.079 --> 00:23:53.440
of nowhere? A straight cat, straight kitten? Why is that?

448
00:23:53.759 --> 00:23:55.799
I started looking at it? Well, then I found out

449
00:23:55.839 --> 00:23:58.599
it's a female. It turnovers on the back, I say,

450
00:23:58.720 --> 00:24:02.680
screaming and raising and all kinds of cane and it's

451
00:24:02.799 --> 00:24:05.960
just like rolling it over, and I'm like, what kind

452
00:24:05.960 --> 00:24:06.720
of cat is this?

453
00:24:07.559 --> 00:24:10.359
It's a bobcat? Oh no, Now what am I going

454
00:24:10.400 --> 00:24:10.640
to do?

455
00:24:11.440 --> 00:24:13.519
If I got caught this bobcat? I might go to

456
00:24:13.599 --> 00:24:15.640
jail or get a fine or something like that. Now

457
00:24:15.680 --> 00:24:18.039
I've got a bobcat that's got no mother. What do

458
00:24:18.160 --> 00:24:19.880
I do? Do? I take it home, trying to nurse

459
00:24:19.920 --> 00:24:21.799
it back to health, which I've not had much luck

460
00:24:21.839 --> 00:24:25.759
with with wild animals. So I put it. I took it,

461
00:24:25.880 --> 00:24:27.759
climbed up the hill with it, and it was kind

462
00:24:27.799 --> 00:24:31.839
of like a stair step thing where water would rush

463
00:24:31.960 --> 00:24:33.799
down through there and it washed all the dirt out.

464
00:24:33.880 --> 00:24:37.440
So now you're walking up technically steps of you know,

465
00:24:37.799 --> 00:24:39.640
the stones or.

466
00:24:39.359 --> 00:24:44.119
Whatever geologic thing is underneath the dirt.

467
00:24:44.440 --> 00:24:47.279
So I'm climbing up this thing, and I got the

468
00:24:47.319 --> 00:24:50.240
dirt all around my head, and this cat's just raising him.

469
00:24:50.240 --> 00:24:53.079
It's like I didn't want some big bobcat coming around

470
00:24:53.079 --> 00:24:56.400
and latching on my head and getting this cat. It's terrible, scary,

471
00:24:56.839 --> 00:24:58.759
but I think I did the right thing. I took

472
00:24:58.799 --> 00:25:00.920
it to the top of the hill. I looked around.

473
00:25:01.000 --> 00:25:02.400
I tried to find to see if there was some

474
00:25:02.559 --> 00:25:05.640
place cave or something this thing came out of, but

475
00:25:05.720 --> 00:25:08.160
it didn't. So I set it on a rock up,

476
00:25:08.440 --> 00:25:10.599
you know, next to a bluff that was at top

477
00:25:10.640 --> 00:25:13.440
of it, and got my dogs away from it and

478
00:25:13.480 --> 00:25:18.759
went back down and you know, told the dogs to

479
00:25:18.839 --> 00:25:21.880
leave it alone, you know, and just hope for the

480
00:25:21.880 --> 00:25:24.559
best that this thing screaming and the mother will come

481
00:25:24.599 --> 00:25:26.359
back and pick it up. I think she dropped it

482
00:25:26.359 --> 00:25:29.759
because my dogs might have scared her off from whilst

483
00:25:29.759 --> 00:25:31.480
he was moving it from place to place.

484
00:25:31.640 --> 00:25:32.200
I don't know.

485
00:25:33.720 --> 00:25:35.880
That's the only thing that seems feasible to me. She

486
00:25:36.000 --> 00:25:39.200
was in the middle of moving her kittens and my

487
00:25:39.279 --> 00:25:42.920
dog showed up and she dropped the thing. So I

488
00:25:42.960 --> 00:25:45.480
got to the bottom of this thing when I got back,

489
00:25:45.519 --> 00:25:47.359
and thank god, you know, I didn't have to fight

490
00:25:47.440 --> 00:25:50.519
a bobcat around my neck that day. And I get

491
00:25:50.559 --> 00:25:52.599
to the bottom and I look right across the creek,

492
00:25:52.960 --> 00:25:55.480
and there's this long, stringy tree, and a lot of

493
00:25:55.480 --> 00:25:57.880
people see him, they talk about him. It's like, you know,

494
00:25:58.039 --> 00:26:00.880
so I squatches will make a loop of a tree,

495
00:26:00.920 --> 00:26:04.480
and I've seen plenty of those in Tennessee, lots of

496
00:26:04.519 --> 00:26:10.839
them anyway. So I see this little stringy tree, you know,

497
00:26:10.880 --> 00:26:14.319
it's like twenty five thirty feet tall. And those happened

498
00:26:14.319 --> 00:26:17.440
because they're trying to reach up to the light, and

499
00:26:17.799 --> 00:26:21.519
you know, most of them eventually just fall over and die.

500
00:26:22.480 --> 00:26:27.720
But this thing had a twist in it. Something with

501
00:26:27.839 --> 00:26:32.720
two hands took it and twisted it about, you know,

502
00:26:32.920 --> 00:26:35.359
enough to make a scar. And it was only about

503
00:26:35.480 --> 00:26:39.039
maybe a year old. Other things there. When I used

504
00:26:39.039 --> 00:26:41.119
to run around, I used to riger and they used

505
00:26:41.119 --> 00:26:44.599
to take cedar trees and they twist the top of those.

506
00:26:45.039 --> 00:26:47.480
I'd go there, go through there one day, and I'd

507
00:26:47.480 --> 00:26:51.920
come back a week later, and they're in the cedar

508
00:26:51.960 --> 00:26:56.799
tree I had walked past, will be twisted up like

509
00:26:57.279 --> 00:26:59.240
some hurricane got a hold the top of it and

510
00:26:59.400 --> 00:27:01.440
just twisted up up. And they don't break it off,

511
00:27:01.480 --> 00:27:04.119
they just twist them. They happened to me in Tennessee

512
00:27:04.200 --> 00:27:06.119
when i'd ride my horse out to where I'd take

513
00:27:06.119 --> 00:27:09.880
my horse out to graze. They used to twist cedar

514
00:27:09.920 --> 00:27:14.079
trees all the time, and nothing can come through and

515
00:27:14.079 --> 00:27:14.440
do that.

516
00:27:14.559 --> 00:27:16.079
No windstorm know nothing.

517
00:27:17.240 --> 00:27:19.240
They broke out. I had a bunch of one hundred

518
00:27:19.240 --> 00:27:22.640
foot tall popper trees. They snapped the tops out of

519
00:27:22.920 --> 00:27:26.400
like three or four of them, and it's kind of

520
00:27:26.480 --> 00:27:29.799
they lined my driveway. They snapped those out and threw

521
00:27:29.839 --> 00:27:32.920
them down to the ground. They snapped another one out

522
00:27:32.920 --> 00:27:35.640
on another time. I was coming back from Florida. I

523
00:27:35.680 --> 00:27:39.359
worked back and forth from Florida. I traveled around and

524
00:27:39.960 --> 00:27:42.200
you know, a lot of these memories are hard to

525
00:27:42.200 --> 00:27:45.000
remember because I'm not sitting still. I haven't sat still

526
00:27:45.039 --> 00:27:50.240
in fifty years. I am now retired now and I've

527
00:27:50.279 --> 00:27:54.559
sat still for about a year. So anyhow, you know,

528
00:27:54.759 --> 00:27:58.519
they snap off trees, they do all kinds of stuff.

529
00:28:00.279 --> 00:28:02.960
The other thing I want to talk about comment about

530
00:28:03.319 --> 00:28:07.119
is you know my problem with them because you hear

531
00:28:07.160 --> 00:28:12.279
about well they're evil or well they're kind. You know,

532
00:28:12.359 --> 00:28:16.519
we leave them peanut butter. It's really we're habituating and

533
00:28:17.200 --> 00:28:20.119
you shouldn't do that. I don't believe.

534
00:28:20.160 --> 00:28:21.519
I tried to talk to my.

535
00:28:21.519 --> 00:28:24.200
Cousin into doing that, and then after I heard a

536
00:28:24.200 --> 00:28:26.160
few more videos, I called her back. I said, don't

537
00:28:26.160 --> 00:28:29.119
do it, don't do it, don't do it. I mean,

538
00:28:29.839 --> 00:28:32.039
I'm just north of where that I saw a dog

539
00:28:32.119 --> 00:28:34.680
man track out there where I used to hang out.

540
00:28:36.400 --> 00:28:38.279
I mean, nobody's going to believe any of this. And

541
00:28:38.319 --> 00:28:42.480
when I was gone in the Navy, that's what happened

542
00:28:42.480 --> 00:28:47.680
down in Katie's, Kentucky, that dog.

543
00:28:47.559 --> 00:28:52.680
Man spectacle that killed some campers. I was in the

544
00:28:52.759 --> 00:28:53.279
Navy then.

545
00:28:53.880 --> 00:28:58.279
But before that, we were coming up from Tennessee, me

546
00:28:58.640 --> 00:29:01.400
my little brother, and my dad knows about that. I'm

547
00:29:01.400 --> 00:29:04.240
thirteen fourteen, and we were going to go deer hunt

548
00:29:04.279 --> 00:29:07.720
at this property that my grandpa had just bought, which was,

549
00:29:08.400 --> 00:29:10.359
you know, the same area I'm telling me about it ran.

550
00:29:10.599 --> 00:29:14.880
We eventually moved up there and lived from Tennessee. But anyhow,

551
00:29:15.200 --> 00:29:18.079
we're going down this road from Katie's, Kentucky. I twenty

552
00:29:18.079 --> 00:29:20.519
four was under construction, and I think at that time

553
00:29:20.920 --> 00:29:23.079
you had to take that detour. So my dad just

554
00:29:23.119 --> 00:29:25.960
bought this brand new truck. He's driving like eighty one

555
00:29:26.000 --> 00:29:30.279
miles an hour down this two lane road. It's it's scary.

556
00:29:30.400 --> 00:29:32.240
I don't know why, I just like, you know, I

557
00:29:32.240 --> 00:29:35.759
don't remember I don't remember getting to Katie's, Kentucky, but

558
00:29:35.799 --> 00:29:38.440
I remember driving through that road and I don't remember

559
00:29:38.480 --> 00:29:42.240
getting to that particular night up to Illinois. But we

560
00:29:42.319 --> 00:29:42.680
made it.

561
00:29:43.079 --> 00:29:45.119
But a cop pulled us over because he was going

562
00:29:45.200 --> 00:29:46.759
so fast.

563
00:29:47.240 --> 00:29:49.279
Eighty one miles an hour road like that is a

564
00:29:49.279 --> 00:29:53.480
big money money grabbed for, you know, the police or

565
00:29:53.519 --> 00:29:56.240
the county, you know. And all he wanted to do

566
00:29:56.279 --> 00:29:58.759
is see my dad's license. Told him to slow down.

567
00:29:59.279 --> 00:30:01.160
He looked around a couple of times, and he got

568
00:30:01.200 --> 00:30:06.759
back in his car. And I've heard people that I've

569
00:30:06.759 --> 00:30:09.319
heard podcasts where people go up in that area and

570
00:30:09.359 --> 00:30:12.440
they have mentioned that road and they say that they

571
00:30:12.480 --> 00:30:15.440
saw something go across the road. And then they get

572
00:30:15.440 --> 00:30:17.440
a little further it says, you want to turn around.

573
00:30:17.759 --> 00:30:20.599
Big for society who will be right back after these messages?

574
00:30:36.519 --> 00:30:39.960
And they're like no, because there's no there's no way

575
00:30:40.000 --> 00:30:41.880
out of this. What are we going to find If

576
00:30:41.920 --> 00:30:43.440
we find something, it's not going to be a good

577
00:30:43.440 --> 00:30:48.240
place to stop. It's a scary place. The whole place

578
00:30:48.319 --> 00:30:52.160
up there is kind of scary. So I don't know

579
00:30:52.200 --> 00:30:54.279
what to say to people. It's like, I don't want

580
00:30:54.319 --> 00:30:56.440
you going up there where I stop around. It's not

581
00:30:56.559 --> 00:30:58.839
far from garden, guys, But you know, it doesn't have

582
00:30:58.960 --> 00:31:00.680
to be. It doesn't have to be a particular area.

583
00:31:00.759 --> 00:31:07.079
Those things I agree with, mister Elmer. Those things are everywhere,

584
00:31:07.160 --> 00:31:11.000
and they're especially everywhere down there. But in so far

585
00:31:11.079 --> 00:31:14.960
as my experience has been so far, they're polite as

586
00:31:15.000 --> 00:31:18.319
long as you are. Now, I have a huge problem.

587
00:31:18.400 --> 00:31:22.359
That county is called the deer capital of Illinois. You

588
00:31:22.440 --> 00:31:25.319
got everybody from Chicago coming down there deer season. It

589
00:31:25.400 --> 00:31:28.000
lasts about three days. They have a big festival in town.

590
00:31:28.839 --> 00:31:31.880
I won't say what town. I guess I could. I

591
00:31:31.880 --> 00:31:35.079
don't have to be that much of a jerk, Dalkonda.

592
00:31:35.440 --> 00:31:37.759
They have a big deer festival down there every year,

593
00:31:37.799 --> 00:31:40.039
but everybody for Chicago comes down there. It sounds like

594
00:31:40.039 --> 00:31:43.880
a war zone for three days. But there's nobody that

595
00:31:44.000 --> 00:31:47.000
goes out in the middle of that. She's a deer nobody.

596
00:31:47.720 --> 00:31:49.839
You can hear all the gunfire is coming from the

597
00:31:49.920 --> 00:31:52.559
road to the public road and the private properties and

598
00:31:52.640 --> 00:31:54.519
all places you can pull in on the edge, but

599
00:31:54.559 --> 00:31:57.039
nobody walks in the middle of that. They don't. They

600
00:31:57.160 --> 00:32:00.880
just ain't got it in them. It's it's a scary,

601
00:32:00.960 --> 00:32:05.000
scary place. I mean, I could talk all day about

602
00:32:05.079 --> 00:32:06.319
how scary that place is.

603
00:32:07.000 --> 00:32:11.519
Do you feel like you've had interactions with them in

604
00:32:11.880 --> 00:32:14.400
that area of Illinois as well? Or has it been

605
00:32:14.440 --> 00:32:17.160
mainly in Tennessee where we've been talking about.

606
00:32:17.319 --> 00:32:20.920
No, Illinois got it all started. My problem was I

607
00:32:21.039 --> 00:32:23.960
was in denial. I guess you know these things don't

608
00:32:24.000 --> 00:32:30.200
exist anymore. I heard all kinds of sounds, this wood

609
00:32:30.279 --> 00:32:33.759
knock thing. Now I listen to a podcast called wood

610
00:32:33.799 --> 00:32:36.920
knocks make no sense to me. Don't tell me that

611
00:32:36.960 --> 00:32:38.799
you're walking through the woods and all of a sudden

612
00:32:38.839 --> 00:32:41.799
you hear a wood knock. Well, that would require a

613
00:32:41.839 --> 00:32:44.680
sosquad to be standing there all day, or all week

614
00:32:44.759 --> 00:32:47.079
or all month waiting for you to walk by to

615
00:32:47.160 --> 00:32:49.720
hit a tree with a stick. That he's what, He

616
00:32:49.880 --> 00:32:52.559
just automatically comes up with it. We know they don't

617
00:32:52.599 --> 00:32:54.799
walk around the clubs in their hand. Well, we don't

618
00:32:54.839 --> 00:32:57.359
know for sure, but they don't need clubs.

619
00:32:59.200 --> 00:33:01.759
That's another thing. They don't need clubs. They don't need weapons.

620
00:33:02.160 --> 00:33:05.839
If they are an evolved species, they decided to evolve

621
00:33:05.920 --> 00:33:09.759
into something that doesn't need anything but themselves. It's the

622
00:33:09.759 --> 00:33:13.839
most awesome thing when you think about it. But anyhow,

623
00:33:13.880 --> 00:33:16.839
there's nobody. No sauce squatch is gonna stand there with

624
00:33:16.880 --> 00:33:19.599
a stick in his hand, you know, just happen upon

625
00:33:19.720 --> 00:33:23.559
you crossing his path and then smack a tree. They're

626
00:33:23.559 --> 00:33:25.839
not gonna stand. They're not gonna snap a limb off

627
00:33:25.880 --> 00:33:28.000
and then snap the other end off. Souse. It's hard

628
00:33:28.079 --> 00:33:30.400
enough because every stick you pick up around a tree

629
00:33:30.480 --> 00:33:32.480
is a dead stick, and if you hit it, it just

630
00:33:32.519 --> 00:33:35.319
sounds like, you know, it's not gonna make much noise,

631
00:33:35.480 --> 00:33:38.039
not enough for you to hear it. So I was

632
00:33:38.079 --> 00:33:40.279
listening to one podcast one time and it finally made

633
00:33:40.319 --> 00:33:40.720
sense to me.

634
00:33:40.799 --> 00:33:43.079
They can make that sound with their tongue.

635
00:33:45.039 --> 00:33:48.400
I believe that because if you're gonna instantly, and if

636
00:33:49.119 --> 00:33:51.880
if it were the case that you were able to

637
00:33:51.920 --> 00:33:54.559
surprise the sauce clots, the first thing he would do

638
00:33:54.680 --> 00:33:57.559
is stop in his track and make that sound and

639
00:33:57.720 --> 00:33:58.240
let you know.

640
00:33:59.200 --> 00:34:04.920
If you're not lessening, you should be that he's close by.

641
00:34:05.119 --> 00:34:08.239
It could also be, in my opinion and invitation, it's

642
00:34:08.280 --> 00:34:11.960
also letting you know that we know you're here. So far,

643
00:34:12.039 --> 00:34:16.079
so good. Don't do anything stupid. But you are passing

644
00:34:16.119 --> 00:34:20.480
the point of no return if you're aware of it.

645
00:34:20.960 --> 00:34:24.039
But see now I'm aware of it. Back then I wasn't.

646
00:34:24.400 --> 00:34:26.480
I heard so many tree ox I just you know,

647
00:34:26.599 --> 00:34:31.119
I just ignore them, thinking, well, maybe this tree smacked

648
00:34:31.159 --> 00:34:34.360
against another one as I'm walking through, you know, little

649
00:34:34.400 --> 00:34:36.880
breeze comes by, and you've got two trees that are

650
00:34:36.920 --> 00:34:39.719
tangled up, and they just make that noise constantly.

651
00:34:39.800 --> 00:34:43.320
I don't know, And that's what I would always experience.

652
00:34:43.480 --> 00:34:45.840
But you know that's not the case, because I would

653
00:34:45.880 --> 00:34:48.079
also look at top, you know, after I would hear

654
00:34:48.079 --> 00:34:50.559
something like that, I would and have that opinion. And

655
00:34:50.599 --> 00:34:52.639
I have that opinion when I was a kid, I

656
00:34:52.639 --> 00:34:54.960
would look up as I'm walking through for about you know,

657
00:34:55.039 --> 00:34:57.280
at least a fifty one hundred feet, because it's that

658
00:34:57.480 --> 00:35:01.199
close to me. It wasn't like six miles away, and

659
00:35:01.239 --> 00:35:04.639
I'm looking for the trees that are rubbing against each other.

660
00:35:04.880 --> 00:35:06.519
They're not there. They're never there.

661
00:35:07.639 --> 00:35:09.800
Never, not one time I heard some mony, And now

662
00:35:09.800 --> 00:35:11.800
I just anytime I hear it now just drugging my

663
00:35:11.840 --> 00:35:14.639
shoulders and I just keep on going because it's not

664
00:35:14.719 --> 00:35:17.559
a threat. I don't take it as a threat.

665
00:35:18.079 --> 00:35:20.440
Are there any other sounds that you're hearing out there

666
00:35:20.480 --> 00:35:22.039
as well?

667
00:35:22.239 --> 00:35:25.519
Yeah, in South Carolina, they come down and we got here.

668
00:35:26.000 --> 00:35:29.079
We came here from Florida and was camping out in

669
00:35:29.159 --> 00:35:33.480
National Forest and there was this two sasquatches. They was

670
00:35:33.519 --> 00:35:36.079
a boy and a girl. I wouldn't say, well, you

671
00:35:36.079 --> 00:35:38.400
could say male and female, but they seem to be

672
00:35:38.480 --> 00:35:41.639
young because they were having a good time. And they

673
00:35:41.639 --> 00:35:45.960
start screaming at the dogs. They'll yell directly at the dogs,

674
00:35:47.119 --> 00:35:50.079
and then the dogs would start just raising all for

675
00:35:50.280 --> 00:35:54.000
miles around, and they just kept messing with them, messing

676
00:35:54.000 --> 00:35:56.719
with them. And then they tore up a tree and

677
00:35:56.880 --> 00:36:01.519
I heard the first the boy Sasquats yelled, and then

678
00:36:01.519 --> 00:36:05.119
the female was down in the canyon. See from my

679
00:36:05.239 --> 00:36:06.960
years out and there was I can kind of see

680
00:36:07.039 --> 00:36:09.519
through the dark kind of you know, it's nothing special,

681
00:36:09.800 --> 00:36:12.519
but I can see what direction or something that's especially

682
00:36:12.559 --> 00:36:15.880
it's gonna make that kind of noise. I know which

683
00:36:15.960 --> 00:36:21.039
direction they're looking. I know how big it is, I mean, deer, whatever,

684
00:36:21.239 --> 00:36:25.559
anything close by. I'll be able to figure it out.

685
00:36:25.239 --> 00:36:27.239
I don't know, and we hear them all the time.

686
00:36:27.639 --> 00:36:30.760
I don't go out, I have been outside you know,

687
00:36:30.920 --> 00:36:34.440
technically for a while because I'm trying to heal from

688
00:36:34.440 --> 00:36:41.199
some injuries that have occurred over time anyhow, So they

689
00:36:41.280 --> 00:36:43.000
do it out here too. So after we got out

690
00:36:43.039 --> 00:36:45.079
of the campground. Oh and then I went down the

691
00:36:45.079 --> 00:36:47.360
next day, I went down that road where we were camping,

692
00:36:47.800 --> 00:36:51.039
and there was this tree just torn all the shreds

693
00:36:51.360 --> 00:36:54.760
and leaning up against the wall of the other trees

694
00:36:54.800 --> 00:36:56.960
that were on the side of the road. I was like,

695
00:36:57.119 --> 00:37:01.199
what did that. It wasn't something that drops got cut off.

696
00:37:01.239 --> 00:37:05.079
It was like stripped, had one strip stripped through. It

697
00:37:05.119 --> 00:37:08.199
looked like no lightning hit it. There was no storm

698
00:37:08.199 --> 00:37:10.320
that came through. There was no wind that tore it up.

699
00:37:10.760 --> 00:37:15.079
It just got it was really it was skinny, but

700
00:37:15.159 --> 00:37:17.719
it was long and big kind of at the same time.

701
00:37:17.800 --> 00:37:20.920
It's like, that's exactly where I heard the noise that

702
00:37:21.079 --> 00:37:24.199
was the night before, you know, last night heard that

703
00:37:25.480 --> 00:37:27.519
and it was just really.

704
00:37:27.360 --> 00:37:31.559
Funny and they loved messing with dogs. Asked my next story.

705
00:37:31.599 --> 00:37:33.719
It's like after we got out of the campground, after

706
00:37:33.760 --> 00:37:36.360
I'd come up here, I'd gotten a job because COVID

707
00:37:36.400 --> 00:37:41.440
and the company I worked for went out of business

708
00:37:41.719 --> 00:37:43.920
two months before COVID then COVID hit and then I'm

709
00:37:43.920 --> 00:37:47.360
stuck in Florida. Finally I found a job in South Carolina,

710
00:37:47.440 --> 00:37:49.800
so we moved up here, but we just went camping

711
00:37:49.840 --> 00:37:54.760
because not really good housing much up here. So finally

712
00:37:54.760 --> 00:37:57.920
we found a place in the country. One hundred and

713
00:37:57.960 --> 00:38:05.039
twenty days later after camping, that's perfect. And one long

714
00:38:05.079 --> 00:38:07.639
after that, I heard sasquatches mess some of the dogs

715
00:38:07.679 --> 00:38:09.840
up here. And there's a lot more dogs. There's a

716
00:38:09.880 --> 00:38:12.039
lot of neighbors around, but you can't kind of you

717
00:38:12.079 --> 00:38:13.880
can't see them. It's around a lake.

718
00:38:14.519 --> 00:38:14.719
You know.

719
00:38:14.760 --> 00:38:17.159
There's not many water sources here, so they're gonna be

720
00:38:17.280 --> 00:38:20.960
here if they are here. So what we would hear

721
00:38:21.039 --> 00:38:23.760
is these dogs that's going crazy, going nuts. And so

722
00:38:23.840 --> 00:38:26.320
what I do is I'll bark back. I'll tell the

723
00:38:26.360 --> 00:38:29.480
dogs to shut up. I'll bark at the dogs, not

724
00:38:29.639 --> 00:38:32.599
bark like a dog, but I will sound like a sasquatch,

725
00:38:32.679 --> 00:38:33.239
a mean one.

726
00:38:33.280 --> 00:38:35.039
If they don't shut up, I get a little.

727
00:38:34.840 --> 00:38:36.840
Meaner, and I get as mean as I have to

728
00:38:36.840 --> 00:38:39.400
get until all of them across the country tride shut up.

729
00:38:39.440 --> 00:38:44.320
Because I can't stand barking dogs. I just can't deal

730
00:38:44.360 --> 00:38:47.360
with it. I don't like a dog that just barks constantly.

731
00:38:47.920 --> 00:38:50.679
My dogs aren't allowed to bark unless some importance is

732
00:38:50.719 --> 00:38:51.039
going on.

733
00:38:51.840 --> 00:38:53.280
I'm not I don't have that.

734
00:38:54.079 --> 00:38:56.719
And then when you've got a whole neighborhood, not a neighborhood,

735
00:38:56.719 --> 00:38:59.880
but a countryside full of dogs marking at the same time,

736
00:39:00.719 --> 00:39:02.960
and the thing I was telling you about before, I

737
00:39:02.960 --> 00:39:06.320
can tell when the dogs are barking and what direction

738
00:39:06.360 --> 00:39:08.719
they're barking at, and then it kind of points out

739
00:39:09.519 --> 00:39:14.000
where this is, and they'll all point straight.

740
00:39:13.719 --> 00:39:16.000
To the perpetrator.

741
00:39:17.079 --> 00:39:19.079
And I think the reason they do that is because

742
00:39:19.119 --> 00:39:21.199
they want all the dogs to make all that noise

743
00:39:21.239 --> 00:39:23.480
so they can come and raid whatever they want to raid,

744
00:39:23.920 --> 00:39:26.639
and no one hears anything except dogs barking.

745
00:39:26.880 --> 00:39:30.559
I think they use those dogs to their advantage. They

746
00:39:30.559 --> 00:39:32.360
did the same things to the coyotes.

747
00:39:32.400 --> 00:39:35.079
When I lived in Tennessee, coyotes used to yip and

748
00:39:35.159 --> 00:39:37.079
yap and yap, and they'd be like fifty of them.

749
00:39:37.920 --> 00:39:40.320
Why in the world would a bunch of a pack

750
00:39:40.360 --> 00:39:42.719
of fifty coyotes. You're lucky to see two or three

751
00:39:42.800 --> 00:39:44.800
or four at a time. If you ever see them

752
00:39:45.480 --> 00:39:48.239
fifty coyotes all rounded up. And then you listen up

753
00:39:48.239 --> 00:39:50.960
the hill a little further and you hear another big

754
00:39:51.079 --> 00:39:56.719
coyote just oh, and you think, you know, back then,

755
00:39:56.760 --> 00:39:59.440
I thought, well, that must be the king coyote. Well,

756
00:39:59.719 --> 00:40:03.559
the coyote was a sad squatch running. There's all kinds

757
00:40:03.559 --> 00:40:06.119
of running them through the mountain, getting ready to eat

758
00:40:06.159 --> 00:40:08.679
one of them, and they're all gathering up and hoping,

759
00:40:08.840 --> 00:40:10.199
you know, strengthen numbers.

760
00:40:13.119 --> 00:40:15.159
There's all kinds of rock piles off the side of

761
00:40:15.159 --> 00:40:15.639
my property.

762
00:40:15.679 --> 00:40:17.440
I had a house and sixteen acres there on the

763
00:40:17.440 --> 00:40:18.199
side of a mountain.

764
00:40:18.719 --> 00:40:20.679
There was no neighbors. There was a neighbor.

765
00:40:20.840 --> 00:40:23.760
You know, there are neighbors, but you know, I had

766
00:40:23.840 --> 00:40:27.199
a whole I don't know, twenty thirty miles out in

767
00:40:27.199 --> 00:40:28.840
front of me. I could just go and explore and

768
00:40:28.840 --> 00:40:31.800
anytime I wanted to and not cross, not across the street.

769
00:40:32.880 --> 00:40:36.800
And there's stone rock piles out there that make no

770
00:40:36.880 --> 00:40:39.239
sense to me. There were people that lived on the

771
00:40:39.280 --> 00:40:41.559
side of that mountain. You'll find their foundations or maybe

772
00:40:41.599 --> 00:40:45.440
their chimneys. They were close by the house. But uh,

773
00:40:46.280 --> 00:40:48.840
the places all these rock piles are, there's no reason

774
00:40:48.960 --> 00:40:51.639
think you could even you know, cut all the trees

775
00:40:51.679 --> 00:40:55.079
out and plant corn in it. Is it was just stupid.

776
00:40:55.519 --> 00:40:56.800
Maybe they're Indian graves.

777
00:40:56.840 --> 00:41:01.000
I don't know. There were some that were like cone shaped.

778
00:41:01.920 --> 00:41:04.119
It wasn't just like a rock pile, you know, you'd

779
00:41:04.159 --> 00:41:08.960
see you know, eight feet long, three feet high, four

780
00:41:09.000 --> 00:41:11.639
feet wide. There's plenty of those. And then there's others

781
00:41:11.679 --> 00:41:16.960
that are just like stacked up like a cone. Strange things,

782
00:41:17.000 --> 00:41:19.519
just you know, I see strange things everywhere.

783
00:41:20.440 --> 00:41:24.280
I mean not that I'm not making them up. I

784
00:41:24.320 --> 00:41:26.679
see him and that's what I see. And what are they?

785
00:41:26.719 --> 00:41:27.199
I don't know.

786
00:41:27.559 --> 00:41:29.679
And was that at Tennessee in Tennessee?

787
00:41:29.840 --> 00:41:31.559
That was in Tennessee?

788
00:41:31.679 --> 00:41:31.960
Okay?

789
00:41:32.079 --> 00:41:33.480
Did I tell you about the owls?

790
00:41:33.800 --> 00:41:34.559
No? Not yet?

791
00:41:34.719 --> 00:41:34.880
No?

792
00:41:35.800 --> 00:41:41.840
Oh, okay, the owls after the eyeball thing, the red

793
00:41:41.880 --> 00:41:46.360
eyes after that, it wasn't long. It was the same year,

794
00:41:46.400 --> 00:41:51.039
in the same spring, and that was See I'm trying

795
00:41:51.039 --> 00:41:53.800
to put this together because you know, it's so long ago.

796
00:41:53.840 --> 00:41:55.519
And I have to say, was that the same year?

797
00:41:55.760 --> 00:41:59.119
Was it a week ago? A week before? Anyhow? So

798
00:42:00.280 --> 00:42:03.000
this owl goes out and starts hooting. So I get

799
00:42:03.039 --> 00:42:05.000
out on the porch, the same porch, and I start

800
00:42:05.000 --> 00:42:07.800
hooting back at this thing. And I'm pretty good at it,

801
00:42:08.519 --> 00:42:10.719
and so I'm hooting at this owl, and I'm hooting

802
00:42:10.719 --> 00:42:13.599
this owl, and then I realized that this may not

803
00:42:13.719 --> 00:42:18.119
be an owl. It's giant, it's huge. All I can

804
00:42:18.199 --> 00:42:21.480
see is, you know, just past the you know, it's

805
00:42:21.559 --> 00:42:27.000
just a wall of darkness through the woods. Middle of

806
00:42:27.000 --> 00:42:30.320
the night, about ten thirty eleven o'clock at night. This

807
00:42:30.400 --> 00:42:32.639
thing's hooting. I'm hooting back. I'm having a good time,

808
00:42:33.000 --> 00:42:34.800
and I'm sitting there thinking, I think I'm gonna walk

809
00:42:34.880 --> 00:42:37.000
up there and see what that is. I was about

810
00:42:37.000 --> 00:42:38.840
to take a step off the porch, and another one

811
00:42:38.880 --> 00:42:41.079
off to my left at about forty five degrees did

812
00:42:41.119 --> 00:42:44.559
the same thing started hooting too. So now I've got

813
00:42:44.559 --> 00:42:46.679
two of these things hooting, so I'm hooting at both

814
00:42:46.679 --> 00:42:48.960
of them. I decide to back up. You know, I

815
00:42:49.000 --> 00:42:51.360
put my foot back on the porch, and I think

816
00:42:51.519 --> 00:42:56.599
these can't be owls because they're too big. They sound

817
00:42:56.639 --> 00:42:59.480
like they're six foot tall. Now I've listened to owls

818
00:42:59.480 --> 00:43:01.119
for I know want an owl sound. I've been in

819
00:43:01.159 --> 00:43:04.199
the woods planning. I know what a normal sized owl

820
00:43:04.239 --> 00:43:07.760
sounds like. These things were just way too loud. You

821
00:43:07.800 --> 00:43:13.800
could feel the vibration from these owls hooting. Then they

822
00:43:13.920 --> 00:43:16.360
just one shut up and the other one shut up,

823
00:43:16.880 --> 00:43:18.719
and I shut up, and I went to the house.

824
00:43:19.760 --> 00:43:21.559
But there was no way I was gonna go out

825
00:43:21.559 --> 00:43:26.079
there and see if I could get them, you know,

826
00:43:26.199 --> 00:43:28.880
out of the trees, or get a look at them.

827
00:43:29.599 --> 00:43:32.400
They were just too big. I've heard a lot of

828
00:43:32.440 --> 00:43:35.480
stories about that, but I had the And oh the

829
00:43:35.519 --> 00:43:38.000
other thing gave away was like at the end of

830
00:43:38.000 --> 00:43:41.320
an owl call, when you hear a real owl, it's

831
00:43:41.360 --> 00:43:44.639
always a who who to you. These things would growl

832
00:43:44.880 --> 00:43:48.159
at the end of it, and that's when that was

833
00:43:48.199 --> 00:43:51.519
the dead giveaway for me. But still at this time,

834
00:43:51.880 --> 00:43:57.920
I didn't think Bigfoot still existed. And then when I

835
00:43:57.960 --> 00:44:04.360
told you about those trees getting staffed up, happened about oh.

836
00:44:04.079 --> 00:44:06.159
Probably three or four weeks later.

837
00:44:06.559 --> 00:44:08.599
All those trees were in my driveway and they just

838
00:44:08.639 --> 00:44:11.599
snapped everything off the top. So maybe they got mad,

839
00:44:11.920 --> 00:44:14.119
Maybe they got mad at me because I was, you know,

840
00:44:14.199 --> 00:44:15.480
technically mocking them.

841
00:44:15.920 --> 00:44:18.199
I don't know, Mark, I want to I want to

842
00:44:18.199 --> 00:44:20.239
make sure I'm on the right page. So you had

843
00:44:20.960 --> 00:44:24.440
the owl. The owl thing happened after you had the

844
00:44:24.519 --> 00:44:27.840
visual with the one standing there with the squirrels, and

845
00:44:27.960 --> 00:44:32.800
you still were not one hundred percent together. So what

846
00:44:32.639 --> 00:44:35.960
was asking, Yeah, what pushed you over then?

847
00:44:40.039 --> 00:44:41.440
Podcast?

848
00:44:41.679 --> 00:44:43.280
Okay, okay, so I was raised.

849
00:44:43.440 --> 00:44:45.599
I was raised. I was raised in a family. If

850
00:44:45.599 --> 00:44:49.199
you brought up anything like that, told any stories like that,

851
00:44:50.000 --> 00:44:54.039
they would make you pay for it. You don't, don't

852
00:44:54.039 --> 00:44:56.440
bring it up, don't talk about it. That doesn't exist.

853
00:44:56.480 --> 00:44:59.519
That's crazy. So I was stuck with that in my brain.

854
00:44:59.639 --> 00:45:01.239
I'm not stuck with that anymore.

855
00:45:01.440 --> 00:45:04.239
Yeah, So that's why it's taken me so long to

856
00:45:04.320 --> 00:45:09.000
come around. It wasn't like I'm an automatic souled enthusiast.

857
00:45:09.519 --> 00:45:11.400
I was just telling my girlfriend. It's like, you know,

858
00:45:11.440 --> 00:45:12.840
a lot of people go out in the woods, say

859
00:45:12.840 --> 00:45:14.920
hear a tree knock, and they stop in their tracks,

860
00:45:15.360 --> 00:45:18.519
and they turn around, they go home. I just ignored them.

861
00:45:18.840 --> 00:45:22.119
Big for society, who would be right back after these messages.

862
00:45:38.760 --> 00:45:41.440
Heard I've heard. I can't even tell how many of

863
00:45:41.440 --> 00:45:44.159
those I've heard. I just ignore them and I just

864
00:45:44.239 --> 00:45:48.960
keep on going. You know, that's stupid. I mean, if

865
00:45:49.000 --> 00:45:51.280
I knew there were sasquatches in i'd stop my tracks.

866
00:45:51.320 --> 00:45:54.119
I wouldn't way around turned around at home. Sure, but

867
00:45:54.159 --> 00:45:56.400
I didn't know, you know, I just thought they were

868
00:45:56.400 --> 00:46:00.079
all dead. I didn't think they existed. I knew that

869
00:46:00.199 --> 00:46:03.400
existed in the past. I believe you know, I believed

870
00:46:03.400 --> 00:46:06.719
it thoroughly. I used to sit out when I would

871
00:46:06.800 --> 00:46:08.719
ride my horse out there and let her eat, and

872
00:46:08.719 --> 00:46:11.280
I'd look across the countryside, down the mountain and down

873
00:46:11.320 --> 00:46:14.840
the grassway under the power lines where we were all sitting,

874
00:46:14.920 --> 00:46:18.280
and where I was sitting and just wishing to see one.

875
00:46:19.199 --> 00:46:22.039
I always, like always dreamed of these things. Just walk

876
00:46:22.079 --> 00:46:23.679
out the side of the wood, just let me see

877
00:46:23.679 --> 00:46:25.800
the top of your head, and I'll be happy. But

878
00:46:25.840 --> 00:46:30.159
it never happened in the daylight. Never saw one in

879
00:46:30.199 --> 00:46:34.280
the daylight, or if I have, I've blocked it and

880
00:46:34.320 --> 00:46:35.760
I'm not ready to address it yet.

881
00:46:35.880 --> 00:46:36.559
I'm not sure.

882
00:46:37.840 --> 00:46:41.760
So the one time that you had you were able

883
00:46:41.800 --> 00:46:44.599
to see one, the one that you said looked autistic.

884
00:46:44.920 --> 00:46:48.039
Was that one interaction that we've talked about. Were there

885
00:46:48.039 --> 00:46:49.920
any other interactions after.

886
00:46:49.679 --> 00:46:54.360
That or I don't know, well other than you know,

887
00:46:54.599 --> 00:46:58.159
just just hearing them constantly and knowing where they're at.

888
00:46:59.280 --> 00:47:02.280
No have any sightings other than that one. And that

889
00:47:02.400 --> 00:47:06.000
was sighting enough for me, sure, And that's scary enough

890
00:47:06.000 --> 00:47:07.239
for me not to want to go out in the

891
00:47:07.280 --> 00:47:10.679
woods again. Just like Elmer. You asked him if he

892
00:47:10.880 --> 00:47:14.559
still hunts. He said no, I gave that up. I

893
00:47:14.599 --> 00:47:18.239
don't hunt, I don't fish. I just stay home. And

894
00:47:19.519 --> 00:47:23.280
I mean what he experienced is enough to would keep

895
00:47:23.320 --> 00:47:26.679
me out of the woods too. I wouldn't. I wouldn't never.

896
00:47:26.760 --> 00:47:29.840
I mean him seeing that calf pulled in half. You know,

897
00:47:29.920 --> 00:47:34.079
I haven't had well. I actually, down here where I

898
00:47:34.119 --> 00:47:37.000
live now, like a year ago or so, I found

899
00:47:37.039 --> 00:47:39.519
a deer that all the skin was pulled off of it,

900
00:47:40.000 --> 00:47:41.880
and it wasn't during deer hunting season.

901
00:47:43.199 --> 00:47:44.039
Found that on the.

902
00:47:44.000 --> 00:47:44.679
Side of the road.

903
00:47:44.880 --> 00:47:47.400
Did it have its legs still?

904
00:47:47.639 --> 00:47:50.840
Yeah, Nobody took any meat off of it. There was nothing.

905
00:47:50.960 --> 00:47:54.440
It was just just tore apart. But it had been

906
00:47:54.440 --> 00:47:56.519
in the woods for a good five or six days,

907
00:47:56.519 --> 00:47:58.199
and part of it was starting to dry out.

908
00:47:59.119 --> 00:47:59.320
You know.

909
00:47:59.360 --> 00:48:02.880
It wasn't like fresh kill. But I found this thing

910
00:48:02.920 --> 00:48:05.599
because I saw some dogs run off the top of

911
00:48:05.599 --> 00:48:07.679
a hill out the end of my road where I live,

912
00:48:08.239 --> 00:48:10.719
and I got out and looked around us that had

913
00:48:10.719 --> 00:48:14.280
a piece of meat or skin in its mouth, and

914
00:48:14.320 --> 00:48:15.239
I was like, what is that?

915
00:48:15.360 --> 00:48:16.800
So I got out and I climbed up.

916
00:48:16.679 --> 00:48:19.960
On the hill and then you know, smelled the death

917
00:48:20.199 --> 00:48:23.400
and I went, wow, the only time I seen something

918
00:48:23.440 --> 00:48:25.920
like that happen is like, I know a lot of

919
00:48:25.920 --> 00:48:27.760
people and even my family, I think they.

920
00:48:27.719 --> 00:48:28.800
Used to do it sometimes.

921
00:48:28.920 --> 00:48:31.840
Is you cut it a certain way and you tie

922
00:48:31.840 --> 00:48:34.679
a chain to the skin and you just pull it

923
00:48:34.679 --> 00:48:37.119
behind a truck, you know, and the things tied to

924
00:48:37.159 --> 00:48:40.559
a tree and you skin it real quick. But you know,

925
00:48:40.679 --> 00:48:42.880
it usually takes the legs off. It makes a mess

926
00:48:42.920 --> 00:48:43.559
if you don't.

927
00:48:43.360 --> 00:48:45.360
Cut it right. It's just like, but this thing was

928
00:48:45.719 --> 00:48:47.360
pretty much intact.

929
00:48:47.719 --> 00:48:50.360
No one had you know, not a rib was missing,

930
00:48:51.280 --> 00:48:53.320
Coyotes hadn't been chewing on it.

931
00:48:53.119 --> 00:48:54.800
It was just there.

932
00:48:54.880 --> 00:48:57.960
And I what would do that?

933
00:48:58.239 --> 00:48:58.679
And why?

934
00:48:59.199 --> 00:49:02.320
Because even if if the human had done that, why

935
00:49:02.360 --> 00:49:03.920
is they going to go to the trouble to trip

936
00:49:03.960 --> 00:49:07.719
the skin off, not take a back leg a front leg.

937
00:49:08.719 --> 00:49:11.440
Nothing was missing from this deer. So I found that

938
00:49:11.599 --> 00:49:12.639
very odd.

939
00:49:13.280 --> 00:49:17.880
Ollieat you know, I don't think I've eaten any roadkill

940
00:49:18.000 --> 00:49:22.519
or have I I'm not sure. Oh God know the story.

941
00:49:22.760 --> 00:49:25.360
We were heading down to Florida and there's a viaduct

942
00:49:25.519 --> 00:49:29.800
in between here and Savannah can't tell you exactly where

943
00:49:29.840 --> 00:49:32.679
it's on nine to ninety five, and we had been

944
00:49:32.679 --> 00:49:34.920
through there like a couple of times back and forth

945
00:49:34.960 --> 00:49:37.199
to Florida, and I always looked at that place and

946
00:49:37.239 --> 00:49:39.000
I thought, boy, would that'd be a good place for

947
00:49:39.039 --> 00:49:41.280
a soft because right where the viaduct is was a

948
00:49:41.320 --> 00:49:46.400
big it starts the swampy areas down there towards Savannah,

949
00:49:46.599 --> 00:49:48.559
and so I thought, well, that'd be you look around

950
00:49:48.599 --> 00:49:50.159
and think, well, that'd be a great place for a

951
00:49:50.199 --> 00:49:53.039
sasquash be run around. About the third trip down there,

952
00:49:53.679 --> 00:49:56.000
we hit a wall of the biggest stink you could

953
00:49:56.039 --> 00:50:02.559
ever imagine. And I'm telling you it was mixture of skunk, garbage,

954
00:50:02.679 --> 00:50:07.639
dead animal, burnt tires of some sort, burnt suthing, just

955
00:50:08.119 --> 00:50:11.440
with the worst stink. And this is coming from a

956
00:50:11.480 --> 00:50:15.519
man that has been actually skunked in the face a

957
00:50:15.639 --> 00:50:18.840
foot away from my face by an actual skunk.

958
00:50:19.239 --> 00:50:21.920
This was ten times worse than it had that happened

959
00:50:21.920 --> 00:50:22.159
to me.

960
00:50:22.760 --> 00:50:25.360
It was horrible. Me and my girlfriend were just started screaming,

961
00:50:25.519 --> 00:50:28.239
what does that smell? It's not a paper mill. I

962
00:50:28.239 --> 00:50:30.280
don't want to hear anybody saying, no, it's probably those

963
00:50:30.280 --> 00:50:33.000
paper mills down there. I lived in Charleston when I

964
00:50:33.039 --> 00:50:34.480
was in the Navy, I had to deal with paper

965
00:50:34.480 --> 00:50:35.280
whills every day.

966
00:50:35.280 --> 00:50:38.159
You never got used to it. This was five times

967
00:50:38.159 --> 00:50:38.719
worse than that.

968
00:50:39.400 --> 00:50:43.800
It was horrible. So I mean it just unmistakable. It

969
00:50:43.840 --> 00:50:49.320
couldn't have been anything else couldn't have been. My sightings

970
00:50:49.360 --> 00:50:55.039
are smells of hearing things, you know, stuff like that.

971
00:50:55.519 --> 00:50:59.440
But my sighting to me, with the red eye thing

972
00:51:00.320 --> 00:51:03.000
is just as good as seeing this singing broad daylight.

973
00:51:04.360 --> 00:51:07.760
I don't I don't need to see one in broad daylight.

974
00:51:08.519 --> 00:51:10.480
I don't need to make up any stories that I

975
00:51:10.519 --> 00:51:14.880
have seen one in broad daylight. I mean there's particular areas,

976
00:51:14.920 --> 00:51:17.079
like when I was running around with my horse and

977
00:51:17.119 --> 00:51:22.159
stuff in Tennessee. There's little cubby holes and little things

978
00:51:22.199 --> 00:51:24.320
you go into. It looks like they have their own

979
00:51:24.360 --> 00:51:29.039
bias fhere, and then you get this really spooky feeling

980
00:51:29.159 --> 00:51:31.400
about you shouldn't be in here, and you're told to leave.

981
00:51:31.480 --> 00:51:35.480
And I've always gotten nothing, I've wept. You can be

982
00:51:35.559 --> 00:51:37.599
out gathering stuff in the woods or something, then all

983
00:51:37.599 --> 00:51:39.679
of a sudden something will happen, like a wall gets

984
00:51:39.679 --> 00:51:41.760
in front of you and says it's time for you

985
00:51:41.880 --> 00:51:44.760
to go now. I said, really, She says, yeah. I

986
00:51:44.840 --> 00:51:46.559
used to have me down there when we were camping.

987
00:51:46.639 --> 00:51:48.760
I said, well, I've had that happen in my entire life.

988
00:51:49.239 --> 00:51:51.960
I just you know, I don't care fifty feet away,

989
00:51:51.960 --> 00:51:52.519
I'm not going to.

990
00:51:52.519 --> 00:51:52.960
Go get it.

991
00:51:52.960 --> 00:51:56.079
It's like you get told it's time to go, and

992
00:51:56.119 --> 00:51:59.679
if you pay attention enough, I guess you'll get along

993
00:51:59.719 --> 00:52:02.880
with these critters just fine. A lot of people don't

994
00:52:02.880 --> 00:52:06.280
pay attention. I worry about those that come up missing.

995
00:52:07.480 --> 00:52:12.280
I worry about people that you know, call these things cannibals. Well,

996
00:52:12.480 --> 00:52:14.360
the only way you call them a cannibal is if

997
00:52:14.360 --> 00:52:17.079
they're related to us number one. So somebody needs to

998
00:52:17.119 --> 00:52:20.400
prove to me that they're an actual cannibal. But I

999
00:52:20.440 --> 00:52:23.719
think the way that they treat us is the way

1000
00:52:23.800 --> 00:52:27.800
we treat our chickens. If you got like five or

1001
00:52:27.800 --> 00:52:30.880
ten chickens, you know they're out in your yard pecking around. Well,

1002
00:52:30.920 --> 00:52:33.039
eventually you know one of them's going to wind up

1003
00:52:33.039 --> 00:52:35.800
in the in the in the pot, in the oven.

1004
00:52:36.079 --> 00:52:39.039
You know, it's like we love them, we even give

1005
00:52:39.079 --> 00:52:42.199
them names. But eventually, when that hen stops laying eggs,

1006
00:52:42.519 --> 00:52:45.400
she's going in the oven. And I think that's kind

1007
00:52:45.440 --> 00:52:49.159
of the way they may be looking at us. They

1008
00:52:49.320 --> 00:52:51.199
like us as long as we don't mess up. Maybe

1009
00:52:51.239 --> 00:52:53.599
we don't do this. Maybe we get there too many times.

1010
00:52:53.639 --> 00:52:57.960
It's like time to wring the chicken's neck. I've heard

1011
00:52:57.960 --> 00:53:00.400
a little too many stories about, you know, finding bones

1012
00:53:00.440 --> 00:53:04.199
and caves of eating humans that just recently disappeared. I

1013
00:53:04.199 --> 00:53:06.960
don't know whether those are you know, true or not,

1014
00:53:07.199 --> 00:53:11.159
but it just it makes you have to wonder, because

1015
00:53:11.400 --> 00:53:14.000
they don't they're not They're not in any hurry to

1016
00:53:14.039 --> 00:53:17.159
sit down across any table from us and negotiate about

1017
00:53:17.199 --> 00:53:20.760
nothing about anything, even or I think even our own

1018
00:53:20.800 --> 00:53:25.239
government can't handle these things. I think that's why they've

1019
00:53:25.280 --> 00:53:27.760
made all these national forests. So give them a spot

1020
00:53:28.199 --> 00:53:31.559
to where they can go live and the rest of

1021
00:53:31.639 --> 00:53:39.760
us idiots don't go invade or settle or habitat. Gatlinburg's

1022
00:53:39.800 --> 00:53:42.320
a good example of that. There's too many things going

1023
00:53:42.360 --> 00:53:46.039
on and smokies. I won't I won't. I won't walk

1024
00:53:46.079 --> 00:53:48.880
around the Smokeyes, I'll go to that creek that's going

1025
00:53:49.000 --> 00:53:52.159
east to west towards Maryville, but that's the only place

1026
00:53:52.159 --> 00:53:54.440
I play around in smokey. So I've just known that

1027
00:53:54.639 --> 00:53:56.840
I didn't even know people were disappearing that. I just

1028
00:53:56.880 --> 00:53:59.519
always had a feeling there. I'm not a scared I'm

1029
00:53:59.559 --> 00:54:02.719
not a scared to anything kind of guy. And that's

1030
00:54:02.800 --> 00:54:05.800
just I just knew how to act. I guess I

1031
00:54:05.880 --> 00:54:08.400
just knew not to go do this, don't go do that.

1032
00:54:09.079 --> 00:54:11.480
I mean, well, one thing happened to me.

1033
00:54:11.519 --> 00:54:14.039
I was driving down toward Gatlin Bird from the top

1034
00:54:14.079 --> 00:54:17.440
of the mountain out of Cherokee and started seeing Indian

1035
00:54:17.519 --> 00:54:21.199
graves or pot rock piles, and then I smelled a bear.

1036
00:54:21.679 --> 00:54:23.400
That's enough for me. I don't need to get in

1037
00:54:23.480 --> 00:54:26.119
some hollow back there and come up against the five

1038
00:54:26.199 --> 00:54:29.079
hundred pound black bear. You want to understand, they're not

1039
00:54:29.199 --> 00:54:33.159
very friendly. You know, you can't talk them out of hunger.

1040
00:54:34.119 --> 00:54:36.800
So I just never But I mean, that's what I

1041
00:54:36.840 --> 00:54:39.000
know now. I didn't know that then, but just the

1042
00:54:40.159 --> 00:54:44.000
atmosphere kept me from doing anything stupid in the Smokies.

1043
00:54:45.760 --> 00:54:52.760
So when you start like the built Gatlinburg, and when

1044
00:54:52.760 --> 00:54:56.679
you start pinning these people in into a certain area,

1045
00:54:57.280 --> 00:55:00.079
the only thing they can do is strike back. You

1046
00:55:00.119 --> 00:55:02.679
know what happens if you're sitting on your front porch

1047
00:55:02.760 --> 00:55:05.199
and something comes out of the woods and just starts

1048
00:55:05.280 --> 00:55:09.039
taking and eating everything, garbaging up your front yard and

1049
00:55:09.079 --> 00:55:11.599
doesn't even recognize you're sitting there. What are you going

1050
00:55:11.639 --> 00:55:13.079
to do about that?

1051
00:55:13.079 --> 00:55:14.639
That's kind of what's going on with them.

1052
00:55:14.880 --> 00:55:18.159
I believe. Don't get out there and do anything stupid.

1053
00:55:18.880 --> 00:55:20.800
And if you get away with it, good for you.

1054
00:55:20.920 --> 00:55:23.119
But don't do it twice. Don't do it three times.

1055
00:55:24.440 --> 00:55:26.280
They're just bad. Things can happen.

1056
00:55:26.360 --> 00:55:30.719
Hey, you're talking about big foot specifically, right, Yeah? Yeah, yeah.

1057
00:55:31.039 --> 00:55:36.360
Do you think people should put out any type of

1058
00:55:36.400 --> 00:55:40.119
food for them if they know that they're in their area.

1059
00:55:42.239 --> 00:55:43.159
That's a tough one.

1060
00:55:43.639 --> 00:55:47.920
It's a yes and no. It's a I would put

1061
00:55:47.920 --> 00:55:52.719
out enough to just to let them know that I'm

1062
00:55:52.760 --> 00:55:56.559
aware that they're there, and I appreciate they're there because

1063
00:55:56.639 --> 00:56:00.760
they're good guard dogs. They're awesome guard dog. Nothing's going

1064
00:56:00.840 --> 00:56:03.320
to come around your property if they're sleeping outside in

1065
00:56:03.360 --> 00:56:05.519
the woods, just right on the edge across the fence,

1066
00:56:06.320 --> 00:56:09.559
nothing's going to mess with you. But don't overfeed. If

1067
00:56:09.599 --> 00:56:12.639
you start feeding them and feeding them and feeding them.

1068
00:56:13.679 --> 00:56:18.360
I'm going to use videos for example that I've heard.

1069
00:56:18.400 --> 00:56:19.960
There was a woman that did that. I don't know

1070
00:56:20.000 --> 00:56:22.320
where it was. I think it around North Carolina or something,

1071
00:56:22.639 --> 00:56:24.400
and she went away for a week and when she

1072
00:56:24.440 --> 00:56:27.400
got back, they had completely destroyed her entire property.

1073
00:56:27.679 --> 00:56:29.840
Because she wasn't there to feed them every day.

1074
00:56:30.599 --> 00:56:34.239
They had to bring in a professional team to come

1075
00:56:34.280 --> 00:56:35.480
in there and shoot that thing.

1076
00:56:35.719 --> 00:56:38.480
It was like ten feet tall, big giant thing.

1077
00:56:39.239 --> 00:56:41.519
And since he didn't get fed that week, she had

1078
00:56:41.559 --> 00:56:43.519
went off to visit somewhere and she came back to

1079
00:56:43.679 --> 00:56:47.079
the destarter place. They had to like calm that thing down,

1080
00:56:48.280 --> 00:56:50.400
and even the team that they brought in couldn't handle them.

1081
00:56:50.400 --> 00:56:52.320
They had to call a bigger team that you know

1082
00:56:52.440 --> 00:56:55.440
even more. You know, if you want to believe this

1083
00:56:55.519 --> 00:56:58.719
kind of stuff. You know, I don't know what's totally

1084
00:56:58.719 --> 00:57:03.920
incompletely true espousing that it is, but but I can

1085
00:57:04.280 --> 00:57:07.119
surely go along if something you know that big, and

1086
00:57:07.159 --> 00:57:09.239
I know they're anywhere. What makes me angry the most

1087
00:57:09.280 --> 00:57:14.519
I think is, uh, you know, we're you know, it's

1088
00:57:14.519 --> 00:57:17.199
some kind of stigma to speak up about this, to

1089
00:57:17.280 --> 00:57:20.480
say that, uh, you know, we believe in it, or

1090
00:57:20.519 --> 00:57:23.719
even even the people that know about it, it's like Elmer,

1091
00:57:23.800 --> 00:57:26.920
he knows, I know, but you know, people look down

1092
00:57:26.920 --> 00:57:30.159
on you and saying it doesn't exist, which you know

1093
00:57:30.320 --> 00:57:33.280
puts us in a category of people being insane and

1094
00:57:33.440 --> 00:57:35.599
need to be locked up in the street jacket all.

1095
00:57:35.679 --> 00:57:39.639
And that's just not that's I'm not willing to accept that.

1096
00:57:39.880 --> 00:57:43.280
I'm not, especially when I know the way they act

1097
00:57:43.480 --> 00:57:47.280
by not giving up information. Oh here's here's one that

1098
00:57:47.639 --> 00:57:51.400
game Warden that Elmer had talked to. He just strictly

1099
00:57:51.440 --> 00:57:55.559
told him just don't do it. Don't do it. He

1100
00:57:55.679 --> 00:57:57.679
wasn't trying to protect the Saucequatches.

1101
00:57:57.800 --> 00:57:58.239
He did.

1102
00:57:58.280 --> 00:58:02.079
He knows something of him that has told him he

1103
00:58:02.119 --> 00:58:05.480
doesn't want the heat this. You know, he's saying, this

1104
00:58:05.639 --> 00:58:08.679
is my neighborhood. Do not shoot that thing, because if

1105
00:58:08.719 --> 00:58:12.119
you do, it's gonna come down on me. That's what

1106
00:58:12.159 --> 00:58:16.800
that meant. It'll come down on him too, but it's

1107
00:58:16.800 --> 00:58:18.880
gonna come down on him first, and he don't want

1108
00:58:18.880 --> 00:58:21.880
to hear that music. It's a fearful it's a fearful,

1109
00:58:21.920 --> 00:58:25.760
frightful thing for the government to come after you. How

1110
00:58:25.760 --> 00:58:28.719
many podcasts have I heard It's like, next thing I know,

1111
00:58:28.800 --> 00:58:32.280
there's a black helicopter, or the men in black show up,

1112
00:58:32.360 --> 00:58:34.000
or the next thing I'm dealing with a bunch of

1113
00:58:34.159 --> 00:58:38.199
FBI agents making me sign an nda. You know, I'm

1114
00:58:39.239 --> 00:58:43.519
a little I'm not fearful of that necessarily, but I

1115
00:58:43.599 --> 00:58:44.480
got a big mouth.

1116
00:58:45.119 --> 00:58:45.400
You know.

1117
00:58:48.360 --> 00:58:53.159
The area in Tennessee. Have you have you ever talked

1118
00:58:53.199 --> 00:58:56.400
to your neighbors to see if they're experiencing things.

1119
00:58:56.679 --> 00:59:00.599
Yeah, there is one time. My neighbor Bill, good friend

1120
00:59:00.639 --> 00:59:02.559
of mine, he lived down down there. You know, I

1121
00:59:02.639 --> 00:59:06.400
used to ride my horse from through the woods from

1122
00:59:06.400 --> 00:59:11.000
my house down to his. People thought that was crazy.

1123
00:59:11.039 --> 00:59:13.039
You know, It's just it was just normal to me,

1124
00:59:13.159 --> 00:59:17.199
but they thought, wow, that's crazy. Yeah, So he was

1125
00:59:17.320 --> 00:59:18.280
riding my horse down there.

1126
00:59:18.360 --> 00:59:20.480
We drink beer instead of sit around hanging out and

1127
00:59:20.480 --> 00:59:21.000
all that stuff.

1128
00:59:21.039 --> 00:59:23.280
He was an old hippie. But he got drunk one

1129
00:59:23.360 --> 00:59:28.559
night and claimed he went down the road and claimed

1130
00:59:28.559 --> 00:59:32.280
he saw buffalo. He said it was right beside my truck.

1131
00:59:32.760 --> 00:59:34.920
I'm only doing ten fifteen miles an hour, and I

1132
00:59:34.920 --> 00:59:42.039
got buffalo walking beside me out my window. And I

1133
00:59:42.079 --> 00:59:45.239
couldn't figure it out. It's like, how would a stray buffalo?

1134
00:59:45.320 --> 00:59:47.880
He says. It's just like, you know, buffalo when they

1135
00:59:47.960 --> 00:59:51.400
shed their hair in the wintertime. It was like it

1136
00:59:51.519 --> 00:59:54.840
was all hairy and like all matted up, and it

1137
00:59:54.960 --> 00:59:58.559
was walking on all fours, he mentioned. I said, he

1138
00:59:58.719 --> 01:00:00.760
just kept saying it was walking on on all fours.

1139
01:00:00.800 --> 01:00:02.280
I don't know why I kept saying.

1140
01:00:02.000 --> 01:00:04.760
That big for society, who will be right back after

1141
01:00:04.800 --> 01:00:05.639
these messages?

1142
01:00:22.480 --> 01:00:24.880
He said maybe it was a subsquatch, And I even

1143
01:00:24.880 --> 01:00:27.559
talked to him. I said, there's no way, Bill, there's

1144
01:00:27.599 --> 01:00:30.760
no sasquatch running around here. He said, the thing was

1145
01:00:30.880 --> 01:00:34.239
like it was huge. It was as big as my truck.

1146
01:00:34.360 --> 01:00:36.199
It was tall at the back of it. I'm looking

1147
01:00:36.199 --> 01:00:39.159
at the back of it, but he didn't see the

1148
01:00:39.199 --> 01:00:43.960
front of it. So just where he had seen this thing,

1149
01:00:45.360 --> 01:00:48.880
it was right at this little little short bridge, small

1150
01:00:49.199 --> 01:00:51.880
low bridge that goes over a creek, a dry creek.

1151
01:00:53.639 --> 01:00:55.719
And if you make a left right there at that

1152
01:00:55.800 --> 01:00:58.679
thing and walk about a mile, there's this huge giant

1153
01:00:58.760 --> 01:01:03.480
sinkhole cave system. I've been in it, got in it,

1154
01:01:04.039 --> 01:01:07.239
crawled in it, big enough for one of them things

1155
01:01:07.239 --> 01:01:09.800
to get in it and just live there. And there's

1156
01:01:09.840 --> 01:01:12.639
another cave down the road to the right. I've gott

1157
01:01:12.639 --> 01:01:16.280
in that cave when I was younger, and so there's

1158
01:01:16.320 --> 01:01:18.239
plenty of it, you know, if he wanted to hide,

1159
01:01:18.280 --> 01:01:20.559
there's plenty of places for the big thing to hide.

1160
01:01:20.840 --> 01:01:23.079
So I went down to my other neighbor, which was

1161
01:01:23.079 --> 01:01:25.920
a friend of ours, and I kind of sat for

1162
01:01:25.960 --> 01:01:28.159
a couple of days thinking about, well, maybe he's right,

1163
01:01:28.280 --> 01:01:30.000
maybe it is a big foot. And I brought it

1164
01:01:30.119 --> 01:01:31.360
up to him and he.

1165
01:01:31.320 --> 01:01:34.239
Went monkey nuts on me and told me to shut up,

1166
01:01:34.320 --> 01:01:35.360
don't bring that up again.

1167
01:01:35.440 --> 01:01:36.960
I don't want to talk about it, and I don't

1168
01:01:36.960 --> 01:01:39.119
want to want you bring that up to Just don't

1169
01:01:39.159 --> 01:01:41.840
talk about it. I said, what's the matter, it's not

1170
01:01:41.880 --> 01:01:44.079
a buffalo. I'm just talking about it. It's not a buffalo.

1171
01:01:44.199 --> 01:01:46.599
Maybe it is a big foot. He says, that's enough

1172
01:01:46.639 --> 01:01:51.199
for me. That's enough, so I'd say, And I couldn't

1173
01:01:51.199 --> 01:01:54.480
talk to him about it ever again. It was a

1174
01:01:54.800 --> 01:01:56.920
don't don't bring us up, don't bring us up, shot

1175
01:01:56.960 --> 01:01:59.519
up ever again. But he lived down right there in

1176
01:01:59.599 --> 01:02:03.679
the valley, not three months or not a mile away

1177
01:02:03.679 --> 01:02:07.880
from where he saw this thing. But he was just

1178
01:02:08.679 --> 01:02:12.239
not even wanting to hear the possibility of the theory

1179
01:02:12.280 --> 01:02:16.840
of maybe because we know it's not a buffalo. Oh,

1180
01:02:16.920 --> 01:02:21.679
Bill's just drunk. He was just drunk. No many what

1181
01:02:21.800 --> 01:02:28.760
it was. Sorry, it wasn't my sighting. That's just the

1182
01:02:28.880 --> 01:02:32.719
story that sound, and that was the end of that.

1183
01:02:34.000 --> 01:02:37.360
Bill died not long after that, probably about a year after.

1184
01:02:39.320 --> 01:02:42.400
But you know, yeah, Bill was a drinker, but he

1185
01:02:42.440 --> 01:02:43.480
wasn't an hallucinator.

1186
01:02:44.039 --> 01:02:46.360
I know that for a fact.

1187
01:02:48.519 --> 01:02:52.800
Wow, what an interesting area. Do you ever hear anything

1188
01:02:52.800 --> 01:02:57.079
else weird in the woods besides the sounds that you're

1189
01:02:57.280 --> 01:02:58.800
attributing to Bigfoot?

1190
01:03:00.199 --> 01:03:04.159
Well? The only oh any other things weird? Oh let

1191
01:03:04.159 --> 01:03:07.920
me think that's a curveball? Yeah, that I can't remember

1192
01:03:07.960 --> 01:03:10.039
what they are. I'm trying to just rack my brain

1193
01:03:10.079 --> 01:03:14.559
with what I'm dealing with. But no steel doors closing. Okay,

1194
01:03:14.760 --> 01:03:17.920
actually it's nothing. It's nothing I heard, but it's what

1195
01:03:18.000 --> 01:03:20.519
I saw when I'm sitting there with that bob Back

1196
01:03:20.519 --> 01:03:22.559
when I was sitting there with that bobcat, I told

1197
01:03:22.599 --> 01:03:24.559
you I hadn't objective that I wanted to get to.

1198
01:03:25.239 --> 01:03:28.000
So while I'm dealing with this bobcat, my girlfriend's got

1199
01:03:28.000 --> 01:03:31.199
a sprained ankle, and you know, and my dogs, well,

1200
01:03:31.280 --> 01:03:33.599
my dogs aren't giving me a problem necessarily. And then

1201
01:03:33.599 --> 01:03:35.920
that twisted tree is right across the.

1202
01:03:35.920 --> 01:03:36.599
Creek from me.

1203
01:03:37.079 --> 01:03:41.079
I'm looking down and what should be darker black. I

1204
01:03:41.159 --> 01:03:41.719
kept seeing this.

1205
01:03:41.920 --> 01:03:44.960
It looked like there was a white building sitting there.

1206
01:03:45.320 --> 01:03:47.960
I well, what is that? Why is there? There shouldn't

1207
01:03:48.000 --> 01:03:51.519
be anything white, and it's huge and it's sitting there

1208
01:03:51.639 --> 01:03:54.280
just like I could just you could just barely see

1209
01:03:54.280 --> 01:03:57.559
it through the trees. But it's solid white. The rocks

1210
01:03:57.559 --> 01:04:00.400
aren't going to be white. There's nothing there that should

1211
01:04:00.400 --> 01:04:03.800
be white. But you know, I'm dealing with, you know,

1212
01:04:04.039 --> 01:04:07.119
quite a few issues there. I keep glancing down there,

1213
01:04:07.199 --> 01:04:09.320
see what that is. I'm glancing around. What am I

1214
01:04:09.320 --> 01:04:11.880
going to do with this cat? So once I got

1215
01:04:11.920 --> 01:04:13.880
the cat down, I thought about going. Then we just

1216
01:04:13.880 --> 01:04:17.239
decided no, I'll see it some other time. But it

1217
01:04:17.320 --> 01:04:20.119
was it was just too big. I had been to

1218
01:04:20.159 --> 01:04:22.880
that place way too many times. There's no such thing

1219
01:04:23.039 --> 01:04:26.400
as anything being white. There's no building, there's no road

1220
01:04:26.400 --> 01:04:29.840
to anybody to carry anything out there. There's a huge

1221
01:04:30.000 --> 01:04:34.239
I just know there was like a white wall down

1222
01:04:34.239 --> 01:04:36.280
at the end of where I wanted to get to,

1223
01:04:36.480 --> 01:04:39.320
and I didn't go see what it was. Call it

1224
01:04:39.360 --> 01:04:42.320
a legend, call it what you will, but I just

1225
01:04:42.400 --> 01:04:45.480
found that so odd and still to this day bothers

1226
01:04:45.519 --> 01:04:48.800
me because I've been out there one hundred times and

1227
01:04:48.960 --> 01:04:53.320
there's nothing white out there. Stupid. There's no way anybody

1228
01:04:53.360 --> 01:04:58.880
brought anything white out there. As far as other sounds, no,

1229
01:04:59.440 --> 01:05:03.039
I don't think really, not really. I may remember something later,

1230
01:05:03.159 --> 01:05:05.360
but right now, off the top of my head, no,

1231
01:05:06.920 --> 01:05:13.360
nothing spooky scary. I think I think there are dog

1232
01:05:13.440 --> 01:05:15.400
men there, but I don't think. I think it's kind

1233
01:05:15.400 --> 01:05:17.840
of like they from what I understand, they don't like

1234
01:05:17.880 --> 01:05:22.840
each other much. They're in Kentucky across the river, and

1235
01:05:22.880 --> 01:05:25.400
I got the guard dogs that I got, which I'm

1236
01:05:25.440 --> 01:05:26.119
happy about.

1237
01:05:27.360 --> 01:05:28.760
I don't want to deal with no movement.

1238
01:05:30.000 --> 01:05:33.039
Would you rather deal with one over the other?

1239
01:05:34.719 --> 01:05:37.679
No, I'll deal with them both. I think dog men

1240
01:05:37.840 --> 01:05:40.199
just like to scare people. I don't think they really

1241
01:05:40.199 --> 01:05:45.400
feed on us necessarily. I think they just like I

1242
01:05:45.440 --> 01:05:50.440
think they. I think it feeds them, our fear feeds them.

1243
01:05:50.880 --> 01:05:53.880
How bad they can scare the crap out of us

1244
01:05:54.119 --> 01:05:57.639
because there's not well, there are a lot of disappearances

1245
01:05:57.760 --> 01:06:01.840
that not necessarily dead. Not the government's gonna, you know,

1246
01:06:02.079 --> 01:06:06.320
admit to so who knows. I know they eat people.

1247
01:06:07.679 --> 01:06:10.559
I know that, so I guess I shouldn't be so

1248
01:06:13.159 --> 01:06:14.079
not afraid.

1249
01:06:14.599 --> 01:06:17.400
But I'm not afraid of either one of them.

1250
01:06:17.440 --> 01:06:21.199
Actually, the only problem I would have about dying is

1251
01:06:21.239 --> 01:06:24.559
that people who have just come behind me and clean

1252
01:06:24.639 --> 01:06:28.679
up my mess. That's what I'm trying. I mean, you

1253
01:06:28.719 --> 01:06:31.519
know all the things that left behind, you know it

1254
01:06:31.559 --> 01:06:35.840
would be on them. I'm not afraid of these things necessarily.

1255
01:06:35.920 --> 01:06:38.239
I'm just afraid of how many people I'd be putting

1256
01:06:38.239 --> 01:06:40.199
out if I got eaten by one of them.

1257
01:06:41.159 --> 01:06:43.440
I don't mind dying dying. He's had a wife that

1258
01:06:43.559 --> 01:06:44.480
died in my arms.

1259
01:06:44.559 --> 01:06:47.719
So and she she came back and told me what

1260
01:06:47.920 --> 01:06:51.159
was like up there. So I'm I'm well versed about

1261
01:06:51.159 --> 01:06:53.519
what happens after you die, and I ain't scared of

1262
01:06:53.559 --> 01:06:57.320
none of it. It's just like you just take a

1263
01:06:57.320 --> 01:07:00.119
big short nap, that's all. Just clonk me on the

1264
01:07:00.159 --> 01:07:02.480
head and have a river too.

1265
01:07:05.119 --> 01:07:07.360
I'm sorry that Joy lost your wife.

1266
01:07:07.400 --> 01:07:09.519
That that's okay.

1267
01:07:09.679 --> 01:07:13.840
I got another girl, gotcha kids?

1268
01:07:14.320 --> 01:07:16.000
Did that happen before I took her?

1269
01:07:16.039 --> 01:07:18.000
I took her there one I took her there one time,

1270
01:07:18.000 --> 01:07:20.239
as a matter of fact, and we were down at

1271
01:07:20.239 --> 01:07:25.039
a place where I used to go see in pretty

1272
01:07:25.039 --> 01:07:29.079
close the same area, and I'm telling her a story

1273
01:07:29.159 --> 01:07:31.519
about you know, the history of the place and where

1274
01:07:31.519 --> 01:07:32.880
we used to come out and hang out and do

1275
01:07:32.960 --> 01:07:35.719
all that stuff. And trees start shaking at the top

1276
01:07:35.760 --> 01:07:37.480
of the ridge on the other side of the creek,

1277
01:07:38.599 --> 01:07:42.159
and there was really not necessarily any wind, and it

1278
01:07:42.239 --> 01:07:44.639
was only like three trees, and they kept just like

1279
01:07:44.800 --> 01:07:48.079
swaying and swaying and back and forth, and you look

1280
01:07:48.239 --> 01:07:50.159
up and down the ridge from one thing to the other.

1281
01:07:50.199 --> 01:07:54.159
It's just these three trees. And they just kept interrupting

1282
01:07:54.239 --> 01:07:57.360
my story because it was making noise. So I looked

1283
01:07:57.400 --> 01:07:59.000
up and I just yelled up the hill. I said,

1284
01:07:59.039 --> 01:08:00.599
I'll be with you in a minute.

1285
01:08:01.079 --> 01:08:02.360
And it stopped.

1286
01:08:04.599 --> 01:08:08.360
When one blowing real hard. There's a little, you know,

1287
01:08:09.159 --> 01:08:14.599
three five mile hour breeze, and she said something like.

1288
01:08:14.880 --> 01:08:16.840
What's going on up there? I said, I don't know.

1289
01:08:17.600 --> 01:08:22.520
Hams all the time, and then we left. I remembered

1290
01:08:22.560 --> 01:08:25.359
that the other day. I know all this sounds crazy,

1291
01:08:25.399 --> 01:08:27.039
but it's all horribly true.

1292
01:08:27.920 --> 01:08:32.159
I'm sorry to me, it's not crazy at all, because

1293
01:08:32.880 --> 01:08:38.720
I hear versions of this every single day, and it

1294
01:08:38.079 --> 01:08:44.600
is absolutely wild how how many people are experiencing things

1295
01:08:44.640 --> 01:08:48.479
like this all across the US. And people don't realize that,

1296
01:08:48.880 --> 01:08:52.239
but I hear right them every single day. It is

1297
01:08:52.439 --> 01:08:54.880
absolutely wild.

1298
01:08:56.399 --> 01:09:00.520
My only hope. Not my only hope. I have many hopes.

1299
01:09:02.079 --> 01:09:08.800
But insofar as this regard, I want people to imagine

1300
01:09:08.840 --> 01:09:11.960
themselves as a sasquatch. What they have to deal with,

1301
01:09:12.039 --> 01:09:15.000
how cold it gets, how they don't have shoes, how

1302
01:09:15.000 --> 01:09:18.119
they don't have blankets, and so you know, why are

1303
01:09:18.119 --> 01:09:20.479
you're going to get upset if you know the last

1304
01:09:20.479 --> 01:09:22.600
thing you need to worry about is running them out

1305
01:09:22.600 --> 01:09:25.760
of the spot that they had picked that day to survive,

1306
01:09:26.479 --> 01:09:28.279
and all of a sudden they got to pick up

1307
01:09:28.319 --> 01:09:31.039
and run and go somewhere else. I want people start

1308
01:09:31.079 --> 01:09:32.840
thinking about what they're doing for they go out and

1309
01:09:32.880 --> 01:09:35.000
start messing with these things, they need to leave them.

1310
01:09:35.520 --> 01:09:37.960
They don't have to leave them alone. They can walk

1311
01:09:38.000 --> 01:09:39.880
out there. Just keep your mouth shutting up.

1312
01:09:39.920 --> 01:09:40.399
Same thing.

1313
01:09:41.199 --> 01:09:43.319
Don't make any noise, don't make any racket, don't bring

1314
01:09:43.359 --> 01:09:46.000
any friends. We bring a friend or two if you

1315
01:09:46.039 --> 01:09:49.880
need to. But they need to start imagine what it'd

1316
01:09:49.880 --> 01:09:52.039
be like if it were them sitting on the side

1317
01:09:52.039 --> 01:09:55.640
of that ridge and having to sleep outside and all

1318
01:09:55.640 --> 01:10:00.760
that stuff. It's not that they're suffering. They evolved into that.

1319
01:10:00.960 --> 01:10:05.039
Like I said, they don't need weapons, they don't need

1320
01:10:05.079 --> 01:10:10.000
fire they're perfectly fine with the way they are. The

1321
01:10:10.039 --> 01:10:14.359
only problem they have with us is we make too

1322
01:10:14.439 --> 01:10:17.760
much noise and they're not allowed to be seen by us.

1323
01:10:18.720 --> 01:10:21.720
They have to run from us. But you know, there

1324
01:10:21.760 --> 01:10:25.640
comes a time where I think another thing. I mean,

1325
01:10:25.720 --> 01:10:30.960
I think that they're not only duplicitess, they're quadplicitess. You know,

1326
01:10:31.119 --> 01:10:34.439
if it's an easy kill, and if they can know

1327
01:10:34.920 --> 01:10:38.359
on their own that there are no witnesses and you'll

1328
01:10:38.399 --> 01:10:42.199
never be heard or spoke of again, they'll take you.

1329
01:10:42.239 --> 01:10:47.159
Never put yourself into that position. I mean, the things

1330
01:10:47.199 --> 01:10:49.479
I do that I used to do, I would say

1331
01:10:49.920 --> 01:10:54.279
are dangerous or not. Just don't don't do that on

1332
01:10:54.359 --> 01:10:58.000
a reg unless you have established a relationship with them,

1333
01:10:58.279 --> 01:11:00.680
unless you know that you're going to be safe. But

1334
01:11:00.800 --> 01:11:03.720
there may come a day, even with me, they'll just come,

1335
01:11:04.359 --> 01:11:08.279
you know, they'll snatch me up. They've had enough time

1336
01:11:08.319 --> 01:11:08.840
for supper.

1337
01:11:09.000 --> 01:11:12.840
Do you feel like you've established a relationship with.

1338
01:11:12.079 --> 01:11:17.319
With the absolutely yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely see. I make

1339
01:11:17.399 --> 01:11:19.479
sure you know, not the word the owner or anything

1340
01:11:19.520 --> 01:11:20.920
like that. When I go out in the woods so

1341
01:11:20.960 --> 01:11:23.800
they can smell me. I want them to remember because

1342
01:11:24.079 --> 01:11:26.319
my scent hasn't changed since I was a little kid.

1343
01:11:26.399 --> 01:11:29.520
It's still the same, and so they can smell me

1344
01:11:29.560 --> 01:11:32.800
for miles away.

1345
01:11:34.600 --> 01:11:39.039
How often are you are you talking to them out loud?

1346
01:11:39.319 --> 01:11:39.880
Do you find?

1347
01:11:42.000 --> 01:11:42.199
Well?

1348
01:11:42.239 --> 01:11:44.720
Not lately, I've shut myself in the house for a year.

1349
01:11:46.359 --> 01:11:48.520
Well all the time, I still do. But you know,

1350
01:11:48.800 --> 01:11:53.760
you can call that person a crazy person easily. I

1351
01:11:54.319 --> 01:11:56.640
believe I'm in touch with them right now. I know,

1352
01:11:56.880 --> 01:12:03.520
I just know it. I mean, so far, I'm in

1353
01:12:03.600 --> 01:12:08.239
negotiations with them. Okay, guys, I got something I gotta

1354
01:12:08.279 --> 01:12:09.680
come up. I got it something, I got to come

1355
01:12:09.760 --> 01:12:11.399
up there and do it. It's in their territory and

1356
01:12:11.399 --> 01:12:12.239
they ain't gonna like it.

1357
01:12:14.039 --> 01:12:15.920
How do you feel you're connected to them?

1358
01:12:18.520 --> 01:12:24.159
Huh, I'm part Indian. I'm connected to them because they

1359
01:12:24.760 --> 01:12:30.239
I think that they I was entertainment to them. There

1360
01:12:30.279 --> 01:12:32.640
was another thing I did like At the bottom of

1361
01:12:32.640 --> 01:12:34.880
that that creek I'm telling you about, at the top

1362
01:12:34.880 --> 01:12:37.880
of that, there's a there's a bluff and I used

1363
01:12:37.880 --> 01:12:40.039
to want to get done running. I'd go up climb

1364
01:12:40.039 --> 01:12:42.840
that bluff and get on top of that. There'd be

1365
01:12:42.920 --> 01:12:46.520
huckleberries up there and stuff to eat, and off to

1366
01:12:46.560 --> 01:12:50.520
the right and you can see see for miles from

1367
01:12:50.640 --> 01:12:54.600
top of that bluff and off to the right was

1368
01:12:54.640 --> 01:12:59.800
a hawk's nest about seventy feet maybe one hundred feet

1369
01:12:59.800 --> 01:13:03.399
in the growing in a big old tree. So I

1370
01:13:03.479 --> 01:13:07.840
devised a way to tie up a bunch of binder

1371
01:13:07.880 --> 01:13:11.319
twine haybales. We had a lot of horses, so we

1372
01:13:11.359 --> 01:13:14.039
had binder twine everywhere. So I devised a way to

1373
01:13:14.800 --> 01:13:17.640
make my own rope and throw a rock over the

1374
01:13:17.640 --> 01:13:23.319
limb with a small string tied to the you know,

1375
01:13:23.439 --> 01:13:25.279
the big rope that I had made out of this

1376
01:13:25.399 --> 01:13:29.640
binder twine, and it was double, so I had to

1377
01:13:29.680 --> 01:13:31.880
throw the rock over the limb. Then you pull the string,

1378
01:13:31.920 --> 01:13:34.319
which pulls up the rope, which springs the other side down,

1379
01:13:34.359 --> 01:13:36.399
and you twist that together and you climb the tree

1380
01:13:36.439 --> 01:13:39.640
to get to the hawk class. I'm sure that was

1381
01:13:39.680 --> 01:13:44.760
an entertaining day for them because I did that. It

1382
01:13:44.560 --> 01:13:47.159
was it was high. It was like, I mean, I

1383
01:13:47.199 --> 01:13:49.720
couldn't get the rock over the limb, that's how high

1384
01:13:49.760 --> 01:13:54.239
the limb was. And I'm good, I'm good at throwing stuff, baseballs,

1385
01:13:54.279 --> 01:13:58.199
you name it. And it took me a good twenty

1386
01:13:58.239 --> 01:14:00.600
five thirty minutes. I had to sit down, take a break,

1387
01:14:00.600 --> 01:14:02.720
from throwing that rug just to get over the first

1388
01:14:02.800 --> 01:14:06.880
limb of that tree. Finally got it when I was

1389
01:14:06.920 --> 01:14:08.760
about to give up, and I pulled the thing up

1390
01:14:08.840 --> 01:14:11.680
and then I twisted around and I climbed that fifty

1391
01:14:11.680 --> 01:14:15.720
foot rope. I mean it was high, I'm telling you,

1392
01:14:16.199 --> 01:14:20.399
sent a big tree. Climbed up and saw the little chickens,

1393
01:14:21.880 --> 01:14:24.399
and instead of taking one, I decided just leave them

1394
01:14:24.399 --> 01:14:27.560
alone and climbed back down. And that was my exercise

1395
01:14:27.600 --> 01:14:31.760
for that week. So if there's any sasquatches around there,

1396
01:14:31.880 --> 01:14:36.720
sitting there watching me, you know, making rope, not bringing

1397
01:14:36.720 --> 01:14:39.079
a rope, making a rope just to get up to

1398
01:14:39.119 --> 01:14:44.079
go look at these chickens, these redtail hawk babies, and

1399
01:14:44.119 --> 01:14:47.479
they were there. I decided I just turn around and

1400
01:14:47.479 --> 01:14:54.760
go back, no reason whatsoever. Hey, have you seen pictures

1401
01:14:54.800 --> 01:15:00.159
of a guard of the gods, like good pictures of them? Yeah?

1402
01:14:59.000 --> 01:15:02.920
P Have you seen that pedalstal out in front in

1403
01:15:03.000 --> 01:15:03.720
the middle of it.

1404
01:15:05.560 --> 01:15:09.439
I mean, I've seen pictures of the rock formations.

1405
01:15:08.840 --> 01:15:12.359
But you've seen that. You've seen the camel head, right,

1406
01:15:15.359 --> 01:15:18.399
the camel head there's that's that's it's I mean, as

1407
01:15:18.399 --> 01:15:21.239
far as I know, that's it's claim to fame. There's

1408
01:15:21.680 --> 01:15:22.560
a camel.

1409
01:15:22.239 --> 01:15:22.840
Head, is it?

1410
01:15:23.439 --> 01:15:23.600
Oh?

1411
01:15:23.760 --> 01:15:26.000
I'm looking at it right now. So it's called camel Rock.

1412
01:15:27.279 --> 01:15:30.600
Yeah yeah, Big for Society will be right back after

1413
01:15:30.640 --> 01:15:48.720
these messages. Okay, Yeah, that's pretty cool.

1414
01:15:48.880 --> 01:15:51.159
Can you see that? Can you see like a pedalstal

1415
01:15:51.199 --> 01:15:55.720
down below that? Yes, it looks like about Yeah. I

1416
01:15:55.880 --> 01:16:00.600
jumped off of that over towards a camel head when

1417
01:16:00.640 --> 01:16:02.479
I was in the Navy. I got a picture of

1418
01:16:02.520 --> 01:16:06.399
it too, and so it's a bit a bit wide there.

1419
01:16:09.199 --> 01:16:10.039
That's how crazy.

1420
01:16:10.119 --> 01:16:13.159
I weren't kidding around now.

1421
01:16:15.640 --> 01:16:17.680
And my reason for doing it was I was going

1422
01:16:17.760 --> 01:16:20.520
to ask my girlfriend to marry me that day, but

1423
01:16:20.760 --> 01:16:22.600
I just left it up to God to see, Well,

1424
01:16:22.600 --> 01:16:24.840
if I shouldn't marry this woman, why don't you just

1425
01:16:25.000 --> 01:16:28.680
kill me? So I jumped jumped out the rock and

1426
01:16:28.720 --> 01:16:30.880
told her to take my picture as I'm doing it,

1427
01:16:31.199 --> 01:16:33.159
and we're out there with our friends and stuff. Yeah,

1428
01:16:33.279 --> 01:16:41.399
go ahead. That sounds like a good idea. Yeah, I twisted.

1429
01:16:41.920 --> 01:16:44.600
I twisted my ankle really bad, but you know, wound

1430
01:16:44.680 --> 01:16:45.640
up marrying the girl.

1431
01:16:46.159 --> 01:16:50.319
There you go, There you go, good stuff. Mark you

1432
01:16:50.319 --> 01:16:53.880
you you've been through some really interesting stuff. It sounds

1433
01:16:53.880 --> 01:16:55.960
like you're still going through it.

1434
01:16:56.199 --> 01:16:58.680
I'm trying to get started. I'm trying to get started

1435
01:16:58.720 --> 01:17:01.760
back up again. I have finished living my life. My

1436
01:17:01.840 --> 01:17:04.039
body's just a little broke down from all the things

1437
01:17:04.079 --> 01:17:06.600
I've done. I used to live on a boat in Florida,

1438
01:17:07.479 --> 01:17:11.000
out on the hook, not at a marina, just like rowing, sailing,

1439
01:17:12.319 --> 01:17:14.640
riding a bicycle twelve miles a day, and that's if

1440
01:17:14.720 --> 01:17:18.119
nothing went wrong to get to work come backs like

1441
01:17:18.199 --> 01:17:20.960
i've really there's a lot more to it to that,

1442
01:17:21.039 --> 01:17:28.000
But it's not sosquatch oriented necessarily, right, or maybe the

1443
01:17:28.520 --> 01:17:30.880
maybe the occurrences that happened to me in Florida. I

1444
01:17:30.880 --> 01:17:35.800
haven't popped in my you know, minus two head yet

1445
01:17:36.239 --> 01:17:37.720
you know figured out later.

1446
01:17:37.960 --> 01:17:42.319
Well, you know sometimes you know, connections get made later

1447
01:17:42.399 --> 01:17:45.760
on in life, and you know things might continue to

1448
01:17:45.840 --> 01:17:49.000
happen as well on the property that you're at.

1449
01:17:49.079 --> 01:17:52.000
But I mean, oh, I sang two songs to a

1450
01:17:52.000 --> 01:17:57.960
Bobcat in Florida one night. That was crazy driving to

1451
01:17:58.000 --> 01:18:00.520
go to I guess I was on I may have

1452
01:18:00.560 --> 01:18:02.520
been on a beer runner. I needed cigarettes.

1453
01:18:02.560 --> 01:18:02.880
I don't know.

1454
01:18:02.920 --> 01:18:04.359
I was living on a boat. So I got to

1455
01:18:04.439 --> 01:18:06.880
my bike in this park that I lived in get

1456
01:18:06.920 --> 01:18:10.159
down the driveway or go down going down the sidewalk

1457
01:18:10.720 --> 01:18:15.199
out of this park, and there's a giant bobcat laying

1458
01:18:15.279 --> 01:18:19.279
on the sidewalk just looking at me. So I slid

1459
01:18:19.319 --> 01:18:22.199
my foot to a stop from about ten feet away

1460
01:18:22.199 --> 01:18:26.520
from this thing. So I'm not going anywhere. The Bobcat's

1461
01:18:26.560 --> 01:18:29.640
not going anywhere. It's not looking unfriendly, but you know,

1462
01:18:30.279 --> 01:18:32.600
it's looking at me like what you got for me? Now?

1463
01:18:32.680 --> 01:18:34.640
So I sat there and I sang two songs to

1464
01:18:34.680 --> 01:18:42.479
that bobcat. Finally it left. What were the songs songs?

1465
01:18:42.520 --> 01:18:43.000
I wrote?

1466
01:18:43.079 --> 01:18:45.039
I think so cool?

1467
01:18:45.359 --> 01:18:46.000
Well there you go.

1468
01:18:49.439 --> 01:18:54.880
So anyhow, it's kind of funny. I felt like snow white.

1469
01:18:56.439 --> 01:18:58.119
Hey maybe maybe you saved that.

1470
01:18:58.600 --> 01:19:00.720
Oh I had another one that out see where I

1471
01:19:00.720 --> 01:19:03.319
saw that sasquatch I had just Randy used to come

1472
01:19:03.359 --> 01:19:05.159
in and wake me up every morning. I finally got

1473
01:19:05.199 --> 01:19:08.079
to the point getting my chest and bark right in

1474
01:19:08.079 --> 01:19:11.880
my face to get me awake. God damn, you get

1475
01:19:11.880 --> 01:19:15.119
out of here. It's like I felt like snow white

1476
01:19:15.119 --> 01:19:15.560
then too.

1477
01:19:16.039 --> 01:19:19.359
That's that's two snow white things. So who knows what's next.

1478
01:19:19.479 --> 01:19:24.479
But don't go eating any apples, I guess, but uh.

1479
01:19:24.279 --> 01:19:29.359
No, right, away from those I don't have the teeth

1480
01:19:29.399 --> 01:19:29.720
for it.

1481
01:19:30.159 --> 01:19:33.760
There you go, Mark, keep us, keep us in mind

1482
01:19:33.880 --> 01:19:37.439
if if anything else continues to happen once you get

1483
01:19:37.479 --> 01:19:40.119
back out there. But thank you for sharing. What you've

1484
01:19:40.199 --> 01:19:43.239
experienced so far has been it's been very unlightening. I

1485
01:19:43.279 --> 01:19:45.359
think a lot of people are gonna are gonna learn

1486
01:19:45.439 --> 01:19:46.359
some things from.

1487
01:19:46.119 --> 01:19:49.479
It, well, I hope. So. I mean, I don't want

1488
01:19:49.479 --> 01:19:53.640
anybody like this calling people crazy.

1489
01:19:53.680 --> 01:19:54.800
Stuff needs to stop.

1490
01:19:55.000 --> 01:19:58.560
It does yeah, you know, And like I'm not here

1491
01:19:58.720 --> 01:20:01.760
a lie or promote. I'm not calling the next guy

1492
01:20:01.800 --> 01:20:04.640
to tell my story. I just need to get this

1493
01:20:04.760 --> 01:20:07.000
out and just get it over with so I can

1494
01:20:07.039 --> 01:20:10.800
move on with my life necessarily. I'm not looking to

1495
01:20:10.840 --> 01:20:14.319
make a podcast get famous by any meanings, just don't.

1496
01:20:14.880 --> 01:20:18.600
I want nothing to do with it. It has to

1497
01:20:18.760 --> 01:20:22.399
I just gotta i don't know, maybe set the records trait,

1498
01:20:22.880 --> 01:20:25.680
Maybe calm some people down, Maybe tell some people they

1499
01:20:25.720 --> 01:20:29.680
need to calm down. You know, there's just so many

1500
01:20:29.760 --> 01:20:32.159
variables to this thing. It's like you just like when

1501
01:20:32.159 --> 01:20:33.560
you ask me what do I think it is? You

1502
01:20:33.600 --> 01:20:36.880
can't just call it one thing right right? You know,

1503
01:20:37.000 --> 01:20:38.960
there's just too many things going on and you have

1504
01:20:39.000 --> 01:20:42.199
to recognize what you're dealing with. Like I said, you

1505
01:20:42.199 --> 01:20:43.960
can go out west, you're going to find a completely

1506
01:20:43.960 --> 01:20:47.079
different animal. Maybe they are field. Maybe they would just

1507
01:20:47.079 --> 01:20:50.039
put their foot down and said this is our territory

1508
01:20:50.479 --> 01:20:55.159
and we have a zero tolerance policy. There's a place

1509
01:20:55.159 --> 01:20:57.399
in Alaska they wiped the town out, like I think

1510
01:20:57.439 --> 01:21:00.920
twice because they just didn't want them there and ran

1511
01:21:01.000 --> 01:21:06.000
them out, killed a bunch of people. So some have

1512
01:21:06.039 --> 01:21:09.680
a zero tolerance. Some are kinder than others. You know,

1513
01:21:09.800 --> 01:21:11.920
you just gotta you always have to know what you're

1514
01:21:11.960 --> 01:21:14.439
dealing with. So that's why I say, we can't just

1515
01:21:14.479 --> 01:21:15.640
call these things one thing.

1516
01:21:16.279 --> 01:21:18.279
And you know, look at them in.

1517
01:21:19.960 --> 01:21:24.560
I don't know one, you know, and in one view,

1518
01:21:25.119 --> 01:21:27.319
this is what they are. You know, they're not a gorilla.

1519
01:21:28.279 --> 01:21:29.560
Sure you know what to do.

1520
01:21:29.600 --> 01:21:31.279
You know what to do with a gorilla. You know

1521
01:21:31.319 --> 01:21:33.279
what to do with They all do the same thing.

1522
01:21:33.640 --> 01:21:36.359
They're not a polar bear. They all do the same thing.

1523
01:21:36.720 --> 01:21:42.560
These things don't do the same thing anyway. So sorry

1524
01:21:42.560 --> 01:21:44.600
for running on. I know you probably have to edit

1525
01:21:44.640 --> 01:21:46.760
that out, but that's just what I think.

1526
01:21:47.560 --> 01:21:49.960
Well, Mark, I appreciate you coming on. Man, If there's

1527
01:21:49.960 --> 01:21:52.560
anything I can I can ever do to help out.

1528
01:21:52.640 --> 01:21:54.520
Don't be afraid to you know, you can send me

1529
01:21:54.560 --> 01:21:58.600
an email, but I appreciate you sharing your thoughts tonight.

1530
01:21:58.600 --> 01:22:01.279
Man. All right, thanks for that. I appreciate that. I

1531
01:22:01.319 --> 01:22:03.159
will if I have any questions, I'll give you a

1532
01:22:03.600 --> 01:22:04.079
give you a.

1533
01:22:04.039 --> 01:22:06.640
Bother, but probably don't count on it.

1534
01:22:07.720 --> 01:22:08.960
All right, I'm gonna go.

1535
01:22:10.000 --> 01:22:12.159
Well, what I'm gonna do is I'm gonna go find

1536
01:22:12.199 --> 01:22:15.079
out now that I know, now that I know everything

1537
01:22:15.119 --> 01:22:17.399
I know, I'm gonna go out and I'm gonna.

1538
01:22:17.199 --> 01:22:20.159
Practically walk up to one of these things because I'm

1539
01:22:20.199 --> 01:22:22.800
done from them making me look like a fool.

1540
01:22:26.760 --> 01:22:29.000
I'd be interested to see how that how that goes.

1541
01:22:29.159 --> 01:22:32.079
If you do end up doing that, I'll let you.

1542
01:22:32.159 --> 01:22:34.359
Know if I'm planning on going here in about a

1543
01:22:34.399 --> 01:22:36.279
couple of months if I can, Okay, so I'll let

1544
01:22:36.359 --> 01:22:39.720
you know. All right, all right, thanks Jeremi.

1545
01:22:39.880 --> 01:22:43.039
Well I'll talk to you later. Thank you.

1546
01:22:43.039 --> 01:22:43.560
You're welcome.

1547
01:22:43.600 --> 01:22:47.760
Have a good one, mark you too bad. Just want

1548
01:22:47.840 --> 01:22:49.560
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1549
01:22:49.680 --> 01:22:54.159
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