Lake Cushman Sasquatch and High Strangeness of the Black Hills

0:04 Welcome to the Bigfoot Society. In this episode, I talked to Tim about the strange things that have been going on and his property near at Lake Cushman, Washington, and also talk to Lizzie and Steven about the Bigfoot related experiences they've had in northern New York in the Black Hills of South Dakota. If you've experienced something similar or have more information about cryptids in the same areas, please reach out to me immediately after this episode at Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com. Hello, Hey, Tim, I didn't have it plugged in. That'll do it, Okay, all good, So all good. I'm gonna wait a minute. Okay, we hear them, we get plugging it and works. Okay. I'll let you start from the beginning, and I apologize again. Go right ahead, Tim, Sure, sure, no problem.

0:49 So basically, we have a property. It's a camping property off grid on the Olympic Peninsula, and this property we've been experiencing all kinds of things, basically audio things from what I assumed for a long time were possibly sasquatch, and I got confirmation last weekend. In the past, we've heard howls, roars, wood knocks, I had last summer, I was cooking oysters over the fire and had the pine cones thrown at me. And again this is this property borders a green belt that is an unbroken forest all the way into Olympic National Park. So you can imagine. We have bear scat My brothers seen two cougars around. It's wild. It's a wild area. So last week, surprise, we went camping and there's four to five inches of snow on the ground. I had no idea, but we set up camp and I said, let's go down in the ravine back there and just kind of see if we can find some tracks of whatever's been about. So we get down there and there's no human boot tracks at all, but there's weird tracks and they are four inches round, kind of just like like something has been

2:21 punching its fist into the snow. And followed him for a while deer tracks mixed with these weird like fist bump tracks, and finally snooped around way off trail and found what can clearly be an adult bigfoot track with a juvenile print inside of that track. Really excited. I'd like to share a photo with you to check it out. It's something I'm really really thrilled about. So that's that's my story. That's awesome. Thank you for Sharon. Definitely, do you mind if I ask some questions and guys, everyone that's listening live, if you have questions, I mean, this is a live show, feel free to put them in the chat. Definitely. So let's see.

3:16 So you've heard some interesting audio. Have you recorded any of gotten to record any of the audio? It's weird. I've I've tried, and two things happen. Either when I hit record, it's just the playback is gone. It's it's fuzzy, it's weird. Or the minute I hit record on audio whatever, the creature is just totally stops. So so no, fortunately I haven't. I haven't had the opportunity to record the audio. But we heard in February, we camped out there and we heard a siren howl, which shocked my girlfriend because she didn't know she doesn't know about this stuff at all, so she thought it was a siren and then it turned into a howl and then the dogs in the area started just going berserk. So, along with wood knocks, the fourth of July was a really wild time last year because there were two firework shows on the Hood Canal, which is about six miles away, and so our area is up above the foothills above Hood Canal, so all kinds of wildlife came into the area. We heard coyotes and just all kinds of weird noises, which we would have recorded a lot of it. But that's when I got the pine cone thrown at me too.

4:41 Have you reached out to anyone in your area of the Olympic Peninsula, like any researchers or anyone like that, about what you've experienced so far? Now you are the first. Okay, wow, well thank you for reaching out. So you're seeing the Hood Canal area, Yeah, it's Lake Cushman. It's above the above the Hood Canal on the foot about six hundred feet elevation. Yeah, all right, well I know that. I think the Olympic Project guys are on the east side or the west side of Olympic National Park. But man, there's a question from the chat here that's interesting, Vincent says. He's kind of laughing a little bit. He says, why would you follow him? But it's a solid question though, like what what would happen like if you're following the tracks, and there's actually something like did you ever think about what you would do in that situation if you had come across an actual creature? Yeah, I guess I can be naive sometimes and overly excited. I don't know, I really don't know what would happen. But they're there. There are two hundred yards from where we camp, where we set up our kent, So it's definitely something I'm I'm milling over right now.

6:02 I think that based on what I've learned about their behavior, they're as curious as we are, and as long as you don't kind of cross boundaries with them, I think, Well, I don't know, I don't know. It's wild, it's really wild. Well it's a weird thing because there hasn't been one that we can actually study yet right in captivity or anything like that. So it's pretty much like there's no guidebook to fund. I want to look up something real quick. Have you looked to see if there are other sightings that have taken place around the same area anywhere? Oh? Yeah, Oh yeah, it's on the bf RO. There are literally two or three reports there. So Dow Creek is the area that that that we have a property in and that's actually been mentioned on Sasquatch chronicles and a Flash of Beauty, so they're there. It's definitely not uncommon, ok that area, So share, I say hotspot, but absolutely. I mean, well, if it's in multiple places like that, and you're saying Lake Cushman, I see Dow Creek here and looking up Mason County, Washington real quick on BFROO, Yeah, I can see multiple campers at Lake Cushman. Vocalization heard near Lake Cushman. It's a Lake Cushman is all over the place on this page.

7:31 So I mean that alone tells me, yeah, you you probably have something going on. Have you ever have you thought of maybe setting up like a game camera or some kind of like audio recorder your property. Yeah, I think we'll set one of those up at the perimeter of our property. I definitely don't want to set one up in the green belt where we found the prince because I just feel like there's some kind of violation of something territorially about doing that. And I do have to share. I touched the print, the print itself, it had such a graceful shape to it, and there it's unmistakably not a human print. Because that ridge that we have on the side the outer part of our foot, that ridge wasn't there. It was it was an arch that matches the the mid tarsal break that's talked about.

8:31 And to feel that, I mean, I've never I've never found prints before till till now, and the experience was just it was so thrilling. If there's somewhere I can send this photo to you, I definitely like to share it. Yes, absolutely, If you could send it to Big for Society at gmail dot com, I'd love to take a look at it. Sure. Sure, And someone had pointed out were you able to put something next to the footprint in order for scale of any size like a dollar? Yeah? Okay, yeah yeah. And there are several pictures of several different prints. I put my hand next to the one that's the juvenile within the adult print. I just put my hand next to it. Another one, I've got my keys next to it. Another one I've got a chapstick.

9:20 Kind of just no brainer. You might as well put something there for scale, right, Absolutely, well, yeah I would. I would ask Tim if you could definitely keep me up to date with what's going on with that area, because I'm going to guess there's going to be more things that happen, especially if there's been multiple events in that area reported in multiple places. Sasquatch chronicles, Flash of Beauty, b FRO and now you Tim definitely reach out whenever you need to. Big for Society at gmail dot com. But thank you so much for for calling in and hopefully this leads to something else, so I'll keep you updated. We're going out there this weekend again.

10:07 So but thanks for doing a great show, great job, and thanks for having me. Awesome great talking to you. Tim, have a good one, Thanks a lot. All right, bye, all right, bick Fitt Sight, You've got the privilege of talking to Steven and Lizzie. They're a married couple that reached out to me from South Dakota. They've had some really interesting Bigfoot related things happen over the years. So I'm going to go ahead and give the floor right over to you guys. Yeah, I was just getting done at work. I work night shifts. We had a stub at the time, and I was just driving home. I want to say, was let's about three o'clock in the morning and just driving down one of the back roads by a bunch of farms and lots of trees and a couple of scattered houses, and just saw something out in the distance over on the left side and started slowing down because there's a lot of deer in that area, and it was much larger than a deer. At first, I thought it was just a big black bear, but it was definitely on two lakes, and it came right up to the road. I came to a stop, and it's about three or four steps, and it went all the way across the road, and on the right side of the road was a little hill

11:39 that went up to a house and some trees and bushes and right across and I was just out of sight. So I sat there for a second, kind of just in shock and wondering what it even was. Made it all the way home, and I got my wife and our kids, and I was like, well, let's head back out there and let's just take a look at it, take a look at the area and see if we can't see anything. Yeah, I knew it was serious, because you never freak out over anything like I've seen you around bears and mountain lions, and you called me when I was sleeping, You're pretty panicked and that was not that was not your norm at all. And when we drove out there, you didn't want me to open the car doors or anything. And that's when I knew it was like really serious, like we could see everything pushed down like something heavy walked through and I wanted to get out to see if like a fine prince, but you were a little freaked out. You were first fit there still. Yeah, I remember rolling down the window to try to get a good look at you, even that kind of freak out a little bit.

13:03 That was in New York Potsdam or was it one of the fact was one of the back that's Potsdam, back towards Serment. Okay, so around the Potsdam, New York area, And how long ago was was this? It's when we were living in North Fork thirteen around there, Yeah, it's about twenty thirteen. Yeah, because we we heard a lot of big foot stories and stuff from friends in that area, but we didn't believe any of them. We thought they were just bear stories, to be honest. There was a lot of bears in the area. So this area that you had this sighting, and this is northern northern New York way up there right Yeah, light up by the Canadian border. Yeah, you could see Canada quite often across the Saint Marks River. Now, when you saw the creature cross in front of you in your car, how far away from the car would you say it was, Stephen, I don't want to say between You're twenty five thirty feet from the front. Sure, did you get a good enough look to notice any details, anything weird about the creature, maybe hair color or hair length, or how that had looked at any certain way. I didn't really get much of a look from the head. It was definitely tall,

14:37 darker hair, I want to say, like a dark brown almost black hair, was like maybe two inches long three inches. Were you able to see anything about the arms at all? They came down just below the ways. And if you were to guess, like how tall the bigfoot or the creature that you saw was, how tall would you estimate it? It was definitely taller than our suvy around feet that area that you had the sighting.

15:22 Sometimes people after they have a sighting, they'll start like talking around to different people or seeing have there been other reports in the same area? Was that anything that you did after that? I did? Okay, I was absolutely fascinated, so I really dug into the whole topic. I had multiple friends say that they saw things across the road, but I don't have permission to say their names or anything. Oh yeah, sure, but almost the same exact area. One of my very close friends said they saw the same thing. You had a co wor catch something on a trail camera that was really a pie that was at least I was fur though. Yeah, they were thinking it possibly was a big foot because it was way taller than a bear.

16:12 Whatever it was. Yeah, they looked closer towards Potsdamn, the area his drill camera is about ten miles from that area. Is potsdam actually north of the Adirondacks or is it technically in the Adirondacks. It's like on the border, like right above it in the north, but it is very close. Would you say half an hour at most, I'm not even sure. If i'd say half an hour from the Adirondacks, that's more twenty minutes. The thing I like about this particular one is that you don't hear this in a lot of them. Is that, well, one, you got your family and you brought your family back, but not everyone actually goes back to check it out that that's really cool that you guys did that. I think he was just trying to make sense of it, and I was just too curious. I remember questioning, like, why didn't you get a video?

17:06 Wed didn't you get a picture? And like I just froze. I couldn't think my phone was my pocket while driving, like just looking at it and watching it as it goes across those fast like only a couple of steps was gone. And was it fast in the fact that it could make long steps and cover a lot of territory quickly or was it actually moving fast both? It was almost like the jogging speed. It's really interesting. Was this your first introduction to things related to cryptids and bigfoot and all that? Or had there been things before that? Was it? Yeah? Yeah, that's not the first for me. Yeah. I always watched like monster quests and things like that. But he really wasn't interested. Okay, So ironically, the one who wasn't really into it is the one that saw and Lizzie's like, what do you do? And I'm training for this. I think it was mostly my fault that we went back to be honest, I wanted to go find tracks and stuff and he I don't know, like, I think you were willing to go back, but I don't think you were thrilled about it.

18:36 That's really interesting that that's an area I actually haven't talked to anyone from really northern New York, so I'll be curious to see if anyone jumps in the comments about that area. But anything else that we wanted to add to that particular sighting we had in the Potsdam area, I don't think so. Just we had other people say, hey, don't tell anybody that we've seen things too. Pretty much that people had once they realized you saw something, they're like, Okay, I'll tell my story, but don't say my name type of thing. Oh yeah, sure, definitely. I know how that is half the stories I get I can can't even say on the podcast, to be honest. Yeah, they don't even want to be anonymous in the small chance that someone can track them down. It's wild but totally understandable.

19:29 Lizzie, do you mind sharing what you were able to experience on your side? Yeah? For my story. Quite a few years later, we've moved to South Dakota. Since then, we're in the Black Hills of South Dakota. And if you know anything about this area, it's very drastically different from the rest of the state. It's very heavily wooded. I they call it hills. I guess it's not mountains. It's very hilly. But for thousands of years they've talked about Sasquatch or Sasquatch beings being in this area. So you see Sasquatch statues everywhere, especially in Keystone where I work. So I'm driving down sixteen on the way Okay to work. I would say it was this time of year. Last year, it was because I was leaving very early to go clean up the restaurant to open it for the season because tourist destination. It's right outside of Mount Rushmore. And as I'm driving down the road, there's this one hill that has like no trees on it because of a forest fire. And I see at the very top ledge this very large bigfoot silhouette and it was sunrise, and so it was like all pink in the sky. So I look over. I'm like, oh, dolls, Chance Art must have put a statue up there. That's really cool. But

21:00 as I was coming close to that hill, it started moving. It turned and started to walk away. I was like no, and I almost slammed on my brakes, but I realized I was like five cars behind him, Like that could cause an accident. So I started just driving to work and I was rationalizing the whole time. I'm like, it was probably just the animatronic because we're outside of a tourist town and every single time I've passed a hill there's nothing on it and it's it was time warous. But what got my attention was throughout this tourist season last year, I had multiple guests come to the restaurant and they would try to rationalize. I saw something. I heard something it reminded me of like those big Foot shows. It sounded like an ape's I found basically a tepee of logs. I had more than one person tell me about this airbnb, this Stata and they found this tepee of way off in the woods behind their Airbnb and had a bunch of bones all around it. Apparently, when you hear one story, you kind of almost brush it off. But when you hear multiple people, totally unrelated, totally different months tell you these stories, you start listening a little harder. I remember there was more than one person, like, oh, can you rationalize this noise for me? And they would describe it to me like, is that a buffalo? Is that an elk? Is there's a bear? And I would have to tell them no, that kind of sounds like Bigfoot,

22:33 And it would go one extreme or the other. They'd either be like, oh my gosh, I thought it was crazy, or no, you're crazy. That's not a big Foot. You're supposed to tell me it's this or that. But I've had multiple especially my native friends, tell me that Bigfoot is the guardian of the Black Hills, that he is there, that they've had sightings, and I just it's been very interesting. Which as a last season, how tall would you estimate that what you saw up on that hill might have done? Probably close to it, but he was he or she.

23:18 It was a lot bigger than any It was a lot taller than anybody I've seen. We have this one gentleman, he's like seven to two, and he it was way taller than him. That's one of the reasons I also thought it was a statue, to be honest, because it was just it was massive. I don't know, probably about eight foot. It sounds like you're starting to be known as kind of the bigfoot person in your area. People are starting to come to you, maybe to a degree, definitely. I keep trying to talk to my one friend to come and talk to you, because he's definitely His family is definitely more so then me. Because we both worked at Rushmore for a bit, and any of these tourist positions we've had tour guiding, We've had a lot of people just come up to us and try to rationalize things they saw here. Okay, yeah, your tour guides at the Mount Rushmore area. So we both worked at Rushmore.

24:18 That's actually what brought us to South Dakota. And then after that I worked as a tour guide and now I help run a restaurant. It's all right outside of not Rushmore, like walking distance. That's awesome. Oh man, the stories you must hear must be crazy. I mean yeah, they're also similar too. It's that's what gets my attention is they're so similar, just the monkey sounds that they're like, this doesn't make sense. There's no monkeys here, right. I'm like, well, it's not supposed to be.

25:00 But have you noticed any similarities, Like do they ever describe about how they look, are their similarities that keep coming out about the description. The physical description of it, I would say around eight foot tall and dark. A lot of people don't see, they just hear. There's a few people that I've heard that have seen things. I don't know. I know one. I'm still trying to contact my one friend to tell you their side. Because the whole family has a lot of stories, like they've seen juveniles and things like that. I don't know. I haven't got permission to tell their stories, so I don't know how they would feel about that. Yeah, we definitely don't want to do that. Yeah, but as a whole, like there's medicine men that like pray to him here. They think of him as a brother, They think of him as another tribe, like a tribe is very important to That's really interesting. Does that whole area South Dakota, North Dakota, Montana. Is there quite a bit of Bigfoot influence in that area?

26:12 I would definitely say so, like just the Black Hills in general, it goes from South Dakota to Wyoming. I don't does some of the touch I don't think any of it. I don't think it touches the rest of them. That's like it goes from Devil's Tower to like Rushmore area. It's like the link. There's always been stories here, even before the Lakota came here. The Mundane said that Sasquatch came from Spirit Mound, which is over by Vermilion, and then they were sent over to the Black Hills to protect it. No, and even the likes multiple tribes. I think them as the guardian of the Black Hills. Is Spirit Mound? Is that like a Native American mound type setup? Yeah? Yeah, it's a Native American mound.

27:04 I believe it's in ver Million. There's a lot of stories associated with it. Lewis and Clark even visited it. They were told that little people live at it, so they wanted to go see the little people, and they didn't see anything. It's pretty much the gist of the Lewis and Clark story. But there was long story short. There was like a fight and apparently this ancient tribe wanted to ask different spirits to come and help them with their fight, and they didn't, but they released two spirits. One was the Sasquatch and one was the little people. And the little people stayed near a Spirit mound and the Sasquatch went towards the Black Hills, the area that's you're in with the Black Hills. Is it just bigfoot? That's that's weird.

27:55 There are there are other weird things that you've noticed during your times. I've personally, I work in a haunted restaurant. I'll be honest. It's very very haunted, and we see orbs, we feel things. The place has been saged multiple times. But there's a lot of stories in the area. There's the Keystone where Wolf there's one of my friends was saying that they saw a little person, but it didn't see much of it. It was just something dark and little and it ran across with two legs, so it caught their eye. But again I don't have permission to really say that story, so I don't want to go into too much details. Yeah. Yeah, but there's definitely it's a very spiritual area, like we believe that this like the natives from multiple tribes, they believe this area is basically the Garden of Eden really, so yeah, they believe this is where creations started, like their creation gods are basically or Rushmore is. It was originally called six Grandfather Mountain and they stand for north, south, east west, above the sky and below the earth. And it's a very very sacred area. Pretty Much everything you look at or touch there's a story behind it. So there's

29:30 a lot of very interesting stories, especially from the tribes people. So we built a huge monument on an extremely sacred area. That's what you're saying, Yes, okay, that's that's a that's a part of history class. I didn't I didn't quite get that. That sounds like, I guess we won't we won't touch that one. But you guys, come on, what do you thinking? Sorry, that's really like ironic, Like I got a lot to get into my history. That's wild. I'm blown away by that fact.

30:12 Yeah, the land is still technically owned by the Lakotas. It's okay, refuse to take any money for what was supposed to be their purchase place. M Yeah, well they can't even own the lawn or trim the trees at Rushmore without the elders permission. It's wow, kind of that's wild. You talked about the Keystone werewolf for a little bit. Is that something that you can maybe share a little bit about or yeah, I could share a little bit. It's hard to find anything on the topic. But the gist of the story is there's a mine, Ingersoll mine, and some miners went to I think they were I don't know if it was gold or courts.

31:00 I want to say it was courts. They were trying to get from the mine, and it was the early nineteen hundreds, I believe, and they were just brutally murdered by supposedly this werewolf. And the story is kind of hung with the town, but it's really hard to find a lot on it. Pretty much all that you hear is from the locals they passed down the story. But some people claim to see basically a dog man or were wolf in the area, and a lot of people think that it's basically a skin walker. If not a skinwalker, I think it was like thirty people or something like that. It's been a while since I've heard the story, but yeah, they were I have seen it. No that were murdered in the I want to say it was like thirty people that were murdered in the mind and they were like torn to shreds by sums of things. But it's kind of one of those stories you just it's all they word of mouth. It's really really hard to find any stories on it. But supposedly there's an article in a newspaper somewhere, but I haven't been able to locate it. I just know people claim to hear what they believe is the Keystone were wolf and they won't walk in certain areas near the mine because of it. I heard

32:35 of people see something around Custom State Park as well, same description, like a big wolfman of some sort. I don't know how to describe it. It's more people are afraid, so they leave immediately. They don't stick around to see details or to find out more. That one definitely scares people a lot more than Sasquatch. It's hard to say because there's not supposed to be wolves in this area, but some people try to claim that there are. Have you found that you've heard a few things from reports around the area.

33:15 Is there a certain area inside where you are? Where? Did reports tend to keep coming from this one area or are they just kind of spread all over the place in the Black Hills. No, the ones that I hear on a regular basis, they're definitely in Keystone. They mainly come from an airbnb, which I'm guessing it's the one that's towards her mostly, But to be honest, I don't know. I just know it's near Keystone because I've heard multiple stories. Mostly they say they heard something, they smelt something that smelt rotten. They found this tpee in the woods that was made out of logs that were really huge, that there's bones scattered around it. But a lot of them aren't visual sites. There's only been a few where I've heard I saw something and it didn't make sense, or my native friends that are very adamant, like this is what I saw, This is what I hear this night and that night. This is what I hear almost every night.

34:28 But when it comes to the tourists, the monkey noises is the ones that they're like, well, what animal makes a noise that sounds like a monkey? Can you tell me what that is because we're starting to think it's bigfoot, And I usually have to tell them, well, I think it is. They don't like that answer. Yeah, I'm sure they don't. Definitely, they probably just want to explain it away. But when they say it's like a monkey noise, have you ever asked like, can you be a little bit more civic, like what type of monkey noise? You're hearing or I hear a lot of chatter like that chatter that chimpanzees do, and gorillas.

35:10 I hear about that one a lot, and almost like the hooping and hollering. I hear about that quite often. Recent stuff was probably less fall because we run from spring to fall every year and I'm just getting the place cleaned up and getting back into it. So now you've got in the Keystone Hermosa area, you've got sasquatch sightings, but you've also have some dog man things around the area as well. Yeah, is there anything else weird about that area or kind of out of the ordinary. People think it's very haunted, and I didn't believe it until I started working there. I work out a golden mine and it's from the early nineteen hundreds, and we get people all the time to see ghosts in the mine. I work at the restaurant end of it, and we've had like before I started working there, people would say that furniture was thrown and that's when they started staging the place.

36:24 I've only felt presences in that place or seen shadows that there's a well underneath the restaurant. They had this huge metal bars over it that were really heavy and welded on and just vanished one morning. They don't know what happened to it. They've had ghosts hunters in there and they would catch orbs all over the place in certain areas. I know for myself, I at first I was like, oh we whenever something go wrong, I'm like, oh, it's the ghost. But there was this one year where this fridge would not stop freezing all the beers and it would direct me crazy. I thought there was an employee messing around with it. So I'm like, okay, this is my job now. Nobody touched this, and every day I would come in and they would be frozen. I'm like, I know nobody else is touching this because I'm the only one restocking it. I'm the only one touching anything in here. This is weird. So I joked, I'm like, okay, well, I guess the ghost did it. It was like a day later. Our camera guy's like, hey, you got to see these orbs that I caught on the camera. And sure enough, the orb goes in the free refrigerator where the dial is to turn it down, and then it goes out the window. And we saw this on multiple days he was bringing up all the videos. It was pretty intense. But we've had guests

38:00 tell us they see these three figures in the mind itself, especially kids. They'll come up and they'll describe these three people. It's like, I think it's a two gentlemen and then there's a lady, and they describe them the same way each time. But I don't work with that end very often. I thought. I hear from a couple of people the stories. They're like, Hey, I guess what I heard from a guest today. But it's more just things being weirdly missing or broken or seeing something very physical. It's really weird when you talk to enough people and you start to I don't know, I'm a lot of people think that there are certain areas of the country where you've got like just weird stuff happening right or window areas. Man.

38:53 I just it feels like this area like it's got some weird stuff going on. For sure. If you talk about it from the natives point of view, this place is so sacred they wouldn't even live here. They would just visit and do ceremonies here. It's totally different than now. But I think there's a reason for it. There's a reason they didn't want to live in the Black Hills. They just wanted to be on the outskirts of it and visit it whenever they needed to. It's some weird stuff for sure. That's a great point. You know, I agree with you if if they weren't even like we're not even gonna put a house up, and now we're going and putting restaurants up and putting up monuments and stuff. Yeah, we're probably gonna have some weird stuff happen. So let's say someone was to visit the Black Hills, what would you say are the coolest, Like if you were to do a paranormal type weekend, what would be some cool stuff that you could visit in that area. Definitely the mine, big thunder gold mine, for sure. They used to I don't know if they're doing it this year, but in the past they used to have like nightly walks where you could go in with the lantern and stuff. Can you think of any other places, like I know there's a lot of caves in the area, a lot

40:25 of stories. Oh, Thunderbird, that's another one that you hear about, not very often, but there's a lot of petroc lifts of it too. In certain areas, especially towards Formosa Ingersall Mine, there's a lot of like old gold mines and quartz mines. A lot of them are attached with very speaky stories, especially ghosts. I think you can't go into Ingersoll anymore, but I no. On an Iron Mountain road, there's supposed to be ahanded town over there on some paths. I'm still trying to get my friends, because he's got a lot more stories than me and his whole family does.

41:07 I'm still trying to convince him well, yeah, definitely if he does get to the point where he would like to chat about that, more than welcome to reach out, and anyone listening to feel free to send me an email Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com. But Lizzie and Steven has been really fun chatting with you guys tonight about an area I didn't really know a lot about, and it's given me some things to look into. So thank you so much for coming on the show and chatting tonight. Thank you. I just wanted to take a few minutes to say thank you to you all my listeners for listening to the podcast. Please take a minute to help out the show by subscribing on YouTube, making sure you hit the bell so you don't miss any notifications, and share the episode on YouTube with a friend. Also, if you're listening to us on a podcast, thank you so much, make sure that you're subscribed, share the show with a friend. Really, it's all about sharing the show wherever you can. If you've had a bigfoot encounter related to the following, or know someone who has, please reach out to me at Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com or pass on my email. Here's a list. If you or any relative we're involved with bigfoot sightings in the late nineteen seventies, or talk to Kevin or Clifford with the IBIIC, I would love to talk to you. Please reach out and to share anything Bigfoot

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