Lake Cushman Sasquatch and High Strangeness of the Black Hills

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Welcome to the Bigfoot Society. In
this episode, I talked to Tim about

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the strange things that have been going
on and his property near at Lake Cushman,

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Washington, and also talk to Lizzie
and Steven about the Bigfoot related experiences

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they've had in northern New York in
the Black Hills of South Dakota. If

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you've experienced something similar or have more
information about cryptids in the same areas,

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please reach out to me immediately after
this episode at Bigfoot Society at gmail dot

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com. Hello, Hey, Tim, I didn't have it plugged in.

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That'll do it, Okay, all
good, So all good. I'm gonna

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wait a minute. Okay, we
hear them, we get plugging it and

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works. Okay. I'll let you
start from the beginning, and I apologize

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again. Go right ahead, Tim, Sure, sure, no problem.

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So basically, we have a property. It's a camping property off grid on

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the Olympic Peninsula, and this property
we've been experiencing all kinds of things,

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basically audio things from what I assumed
for a long time were possibly sasquatch,

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and I got confirmation last weekend.
In the past, we've heard howls,

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roars, wood knocks, I had
last summer, I was cooking oysters over

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the fire and had the pine cones
thrown at me. And again this is

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this property borders a green belt that
is an unbroken forest all the way into

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Olympic National Park. So you can
imagine. We have bear scat My brothers

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seen two cougars around. It's wild. It's a wild area. So last

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week, surprise, we went camping
and there's four to five inches of snow

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on the ground. I had no
idea, but we set up camp and

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I said, let's go down in
the ravine back there and just kind of

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see if we can find some tracks
of whatever's been about. So we get

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down there and there's no human boot
tracks at all, but there's weird tracks

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and they are four inches round,
kind of just like like something has been

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punching its fist into the snow.
And followed him for a while deer tracks

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mixed with these weird like fist bump
tracks, and finally snooped around way off

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trail and found what can clearly be
an adult bigfoot track with a juvenile print

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inside of that track. Really excited. I'd like to share a photo with

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you to check it out. It's
something I'm really really thrilled about. So

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that's that's my story. That's awesome. Thank you for Sharon. Definitely,

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do you mind if I ask some
questions and guys, everyone that's listening live,

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if you have questions, I mean, this is a live show,

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feel free to put them in the
chat. Definitely. So let's see.

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So you've heard some interesting audio.
Have you recorded any of gotten to record

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any of the audio? It's weird. I've I've tried, and two things

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happen. Either when I hit record, it's just the playback is gone.

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It's it's fuzzy, it's weird.
Or the minute I hit record on audio

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whatever, the creature is just totally
stops. So so no, fortunately I

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haven't. I haven't had the opportunity
to record the audio. But we heard

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in February, we camped out there
and we heard a siren howl, which

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shocked my girlfriend because she didn't know
she doesn't know about this stuff at all,

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so she thought it was a siren
and then it turned into a howl

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and then the dogs in the area
started just going berserk. So, along

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with wood knocks, the fourth of
July was a really wild time last year

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because there were two firework shows on
the Hood Canal, which is about six

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miles away, and so our area
is up above the foothills above Hood Canal,

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so all kinds of wildlife came into
the area. We heard coyotes and

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just all kinds of weird noises,
which we would have recorded a lot of

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it. But that's when I got
the pine cone thrown at me too.

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Have you reached out to anyone in
your area of the Olympic Peninsula, like

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any researchers or anyone like that,
about what you've experienced so far? Now

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you are the first. Okay,
wow, well thank you for reaching out.

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So you're seeing the Hood Canal area, Yeah, it's Lake Cushman.

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It's above the above the Hood Canal
on the foot about six hundred feet elevation.

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Yeah, all right, well I
know that. I think the Olympic

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Project guys are on the east side
or the west side of Olympic National Park.

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But man, there's a question from
the chat here that's interesting, Vincent

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says. He's kind of laughing a
little bit. He says, why would

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you follow him? But it's a
solid question though, like what what would

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happen like if you're following the tracks, and there's actually something like did you

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ever think about what you would do
in that situation if you had come across

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an actual creature? Yeah, I
guess I can be naive sometimes and overly

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excited. I don't know, I
really don't know what would happen. But

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they're there. There are two hundred
yards from where we camp, where we

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set up our kent, So it's
definitely something I'm I'm milling over right now.

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I think that based on what I've
learned about their behavior, they're as

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curious as we are, and as
long as you don't kind of cross boundaries

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with them, I think, Well, I don't know, I don't know.

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It's wild, it's really wild.
Well it's a weird thing because there

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hasn't been one that we can actually
study yet right in captivity or anything like

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that. So it's pretty much like
there's no guidebook to fund. I want

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to look up something real quick.
Have you looked to see if there are

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other sightings that have taken place around
the same area anywhere? Oh? Yeah,

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Oh yeah, it's on the bf
RO. There are literally two or

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three reports there. So Dow Creek
is the area that that that we have

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a property in and that's actually been
mentioned on Sasquatch chronicles and a Flash of

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Beauty, so they're there. It's
definitely not uncommon, ok that area,

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So share, I say hotspot,
but absolutely. I mean, well,

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if it's in multiple places like that, and you're saying Lake Cushman, I

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see Dow Creek here and looking up
Mason County, Washington real quick on BFROO,

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Yeah, I can see multiple campers
at Lake Cushman. Vocalization heard near

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Lake Cushman. It's a Lake Cushman
is all over the place on this page.

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So I mean that alone tells me, yeah, you you probably have

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something going on. Have you ever
have you thought of maybe setting up like

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a game camera or some kind of
like audio recorder your property. Yeah,

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I think we'll set one of those
up at the perimeter of our property.

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I definitely don't want to set one
up in the green belt where we found

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the prince because I just feel like
there's some kind of violation of something territorially

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about doing that. And I do
have to share. I touched the print,

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the print itself, it had such
a graceful shape to it, and

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there it's unmistakably not a human print. Because that ridge that we have on

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the side the outer part of our
foot, that ridge wasn't there. It

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was it was an arch that matches
the the mid tarsal break that's talked about.

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And to feel that, I mean, I've never I've never found prints

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before till till now, and the
experience was just it was so thrilling.

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If there's somewhere I can send this
photo to you, I definitely like to

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share it. Yes, absolutely,
If you could send it to Big for

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Society at gmail dot com, I'd
love to take a look at it.

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Sure. Sure, And someone had
pointed out were you able to put something

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next to the footprint in order for
scale of any size like a dollar?

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Yeah? Okay, yeah yeah.
And there are several pictures of several different

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prints. I put my hand next
to the one that's the juvenile within the

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adult print. I just put my
hand next to it. Another one,

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I've got my keys next to it. Another one I've got a chapstick.

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Kind of just no brainer. You
might as well put something there for scale,

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right, Absolutely, well, yeah
I would. I would ask Tim

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if you could definitely keep me up
to date with what's going on with that

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area, because I'm going to guess
there's going to be more things that happen,

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especially if there's been multiple events in
that area reported in multiple places.

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Sasquatch chronicles, Flash of Beauty,
b FRO and now you Tim definitely reach

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out whenever you need to. Big
for Society at gmail dot com. But

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thank you so much for for calling
in and hopefully this leads to something else,

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so I'll keep you updated. We're
going out there this weekend again.

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So but thanks for doing a great
show, great job, and thanks for

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having me. Awesome great talking to
you. Tim, have a good one,

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Thanks a lot. All right,
bye, all right, bick Fitt

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Sight, You've got the privilege of
talking to Steven and Lizzie. They're a

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married couple that reached out to me
from South Dakota. They've had some really

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interesting Bigfoot related things happen over the
years. So I'm going to go ahead

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and give the floor right over to
you guys. Yeah, I was just

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getting done at work. I work
night shifts. We had a stub at

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the time, and I was just
driving home. I want to say,

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was let's about three o'clock in the
morning and just driving down one of the

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back roads by a bunch of farms
and lots of trees and a couple of

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scattered houses, and just saw something
out in the distance over on the left

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side and started slowing down because there's
a lot of deer in that area,

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and it was much larger than a
deer. At first, I thought it

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was just a big black bear,
but it was definitely on two lakes,

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and it came right up to the
road. I came to a stop,

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and it's about three or four steps, and it went all the way across

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the road, and on the right
side of the road was a little hill

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that went up to a house and
some trees and bushes and right across and

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I was just out of sight.
So I sat there for a second,

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kind of just in shock and wondering
what it even was. Made it all

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the way home, and I got
my wife and our kids, and I

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was like, well, let's head
back out there and let's just take a

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look at it, take a look
at the area and see if we can't

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see anything. Yeah, I knew
it was serious, because you never freak

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out over anything like I've seen you
around bears and mountain lions, and you

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called me when I was sleeping,
You're pretty panicked and that was not that

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was not your norm at all.
And when we drove out there, you

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didn't want me to open the car
doors or anything. And that's when I

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knew it was like really serious,
like we could see everything pushed down like

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something heavy walked through and I wanted
to get out to see if like a

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fine prince, but you were a
little freaked out. You were first fit

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there still. Yeah, I remember
rolling down the window to try to get

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a good look at you, even
that kind of freak out a little bit.

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That was in New York Potsdam or
was it one of the fact was

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one of the back that's Potsdam,
back towards Serment. Okay, so around

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the Potsdam, New York area,
And how long ago was was this?

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It's when we were living in North
Fork thirteen around there, Yeah, it's

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about twenty thirteen. Yeah, because
we we heard a lot of big foot

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stories and stuff from friends in that
area, but we didn't believe any of

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them. We thought they were just
bear stories, to be honest. There

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was a lot of bears in the
area. So this area that you had

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this sighting, and this is northern
northern New York way up there right Yeah,

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light up by the Canadian border.
Yeah, you could see Canada quite

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often across the Saint Marks River.
Now, when you saw the creature cross

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in front of you in your car, how far away from the car would

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you say it was, Stephen,
I don't want to say between You're twenty

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five thirty feet from the front.
Sure, did you get a good enough

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look to notice any details, anything
weird about the creature, maybe hair color

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or hair length, or how that
had looked at any certain way. I

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didn't really get much of a look
from the head. It was definitely tall,

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darker hair, I want to say, like a dark brown almost black

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hair, was like maybe two inches
long three inches. Were you able to

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see anything about the arms at all? They came down just below the ways.

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And if you were to guess,
like how tall the bigfoot or the

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creature that you saw was, how
tall would you estimate it? It was

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definitely taller than our suvy around feet
that area that you had the sighting.

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Sometimes people after they have a sighting, they'll start like talking around to different

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people or seeing have there been other
reports in the same area? Was that

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anything that you did after that?
I did? Okay, I was absolutely

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fascinated, so I really dug into
the whole topic. I had multiple friends

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say that they saw things across the
road, but I don't have permission to

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say their names or anything. Oh
yeah, sure, but almost the same

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exact area. One of my very
close friends said they saw the same thing.

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You had a co wor catch something
on a trail camera that was really

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a pie that was at least I
was fur though. Yeah, they were

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thinking it possibly was a big foot
because it was way taller than a bear.

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Whatever it was. Yeah, they
looked closer towards Potsdamn, the area

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his drill camera is about ten miles
from that area. Is potsdam actually north

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of the Adirondacks or is it technically
in the Adirondacks. It's like on the

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border, like right above it in
the north, but it is very close.

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Would you say half an hour at
most, I'm not even sure.

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If i'd say half an hour from
the Adirondacks, that's more twenty minutes.

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The thing I like about this particular
one is that you don't hear this in

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a lot of them. Is that, well, one, you got your

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family and you brought your family back, but not everyone actually goes back to

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check it out that that's really cool
that you guys did that. I think

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he was just trying to make sense
of it, and I was just too

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curious. I remember questioning, like, why didn't you get a video?

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Wed didn't you get a picture?
And like I just froze. I couldn't

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think my phone was my pocket while
driving, like just looking at it and

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watching it as it goes across those
fast like only a couple of steps was

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gone. And was it fast in
the fact that it could make long steps

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and cover a lot of territory quickly
or was it actually moving fast both?

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It was almost like the jogging speed. It's really interesting. Was this your

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first introduction to things related to cryptids
and bigfoot and all that? Or had

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there been things before that? Was
it? Yeah? Yeah, that's not

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the first for me. Yeah.
I always watched like monster quests and things

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like that. But he really wasn't
interested. Okay, So ironically, the

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one who wasn't really into it is
the one that saw and Lizzie's like,

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what do you do? And I'm
training for this. I think it was

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mostly my fault that we went back
to be honest, I wanted to go

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find tracks and stuff and he I
don't know, like, I think you

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were willing to go back, but
I don't think you were thrilled about it.

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That's really interesting that that's an area
I actually haven't talked to anyone from

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really northern New York, so I'll
be curious to see if anyone jumps in

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the comments about that area. But
anything else that we wanted to add to

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that particular sighting we had in the
Potsdam area, I don't think so.

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Just we had other people say,
hey, don't tell anybody that we've seen

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things too. Pretty much that people
had once they realized you saw something,

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they're like, Okay, I'll tell
my story, but don't say my name

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type of thing. Oh yeah,
sure, definitely. I know how that

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is half the stories I get I
can can't even say on the podcast,

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to be honest. Yeah, they
don't even want to be anonymous in the

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small chance that someone can track them
down. It's wild but totally understandable.

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Lizzie, do you mind sharing what
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Yeah? For my story. Quite
a few years later, we've moved

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to South Dakota. Since then,
we're in the Black Hills of South Dakota.

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And if you know anything about this
area, it's very drastically different from

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the rest of the state. It's
very heavily wooded. I they call it

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hills. I guess it's not mountains. It's very hilly. But for thousands

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of years they've talked about Sasquatch or
Sasquatch beings being in this area. So

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you see Sasquatch statues everywhere, especially
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driving down sixteen on the way Okay
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this time of year. Last year, it was because I was leaving very

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early to go clean up the restaurant
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destination. It's right outside of Mount
Rushmore. And as I'm driving down the

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road, there's this one hill that
has like no trees on it because of

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a forest fire. And I see
at the very top ledge this very large

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bigfoot silhouette and it was sunrise,
and so it was like all pink in

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the sky. So I look over. I'm like, oh, dolls,

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Chance Art must have put a statue
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as I was coming close to that
hill, it started moving. It turned

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and started to walk away. I
was like no, and I almost slammed

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on my brakes, but I realized
I was like five cars behind him,

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Like that could cause an accident.
So I started just driving to work and

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I was rationalizing the whole time.
I'm like, it was probably just the

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animatronic because we're outside of a tourist
town and every single time I've passed a

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hill there's nothing on it and it's
it was time warous. But what got

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my attention was throughout this tourist season
last year, I had multiple guests come

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to the restaurant and they would try
to rationalize. I saw something. I

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heard something it reminded me of like
those big Foot shows. It sounded like

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an ape's I found basically a tepee
of logs. I had more than one

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person tell me about this airbnb,
this Stata and they found this tepee of

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way off in the woods behind their
Airbnb and had a bunch of bones all

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around it. Apparently, when you
hear one story, you kind of almost

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brush it off. But when you
hear multiple people, totally unrelated, totally

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different months tell you these stories,
you start listening a little harder. I

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remember there was more than one person, like, oh, can you rationalize

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this noise for me? And they
would describe it to me like, is

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that a buffalo? Is that an
elk? Is there's a bear? And

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I would have to tell them no, that kind of sounds like Bigfoot,

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And it would go one extreme or
the other. They'd either be like,

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oh my gosh, I thought it
was crazy, or no, you're crazy.

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That's not a big Foot. You're
supposed to tell me it's this or

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that. But I've had multiple especially
my native friends, tell me that Bigfoot

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is the guardian of the Black Hills, that he is there, that they've

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had sightings, and I just it's
been very interesting. Which as a last

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season, how tall would you estimate
that what you saw up on that hill

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might have done? Probably close to
it, but he was he or she.

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It was a lot bigger than any
It was a lot taller than anybody

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I've seen. We have this one
gentleman, he's like seven to two,

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and he it was way taller than
him. That's one of the reasons I

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also thought it was a statue,
to be honest, because it was just

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it was massive. I don't know, probably about eight foot. It sounds

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like you're starting to be known as
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People are starting to come to you, maybe to a degree, definitely.

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I keep trying to talk to my
one friend to come and talk to

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you, because he's definitely His family
is definitely more so then me. Because

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we both worked at Rushmore for a
bit, and any of these tourist positions

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we've had tour guiding, We've had
a lot of people just come up to

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us and try to rationalize things they
saw here. Okay, yeah, your

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tour guides at the Mount Rushmore area. So we both worked at Rushmore.

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That's actually what brought us to South
Dakota. And then after that I worked

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as a tour guide and now I
help run a restaurant. It's all right

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outside of not Rushmore, like walking
distance. That's awesome. Oh man,

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the stories you must hear must be
crazy. I mean yeah, they're also

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similar too. It's that's what gets
my attention is they're so similar, just

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the monkey sounds that they're like,
this doesn't make sense. There's no monkeys

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here, right. I'm like,
well, it's not supposed to be.

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But have you noticed any similarities,
Like do they ever describe about how they

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look, are their similarities that keep
coming out about the description. The physical

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description of it, I would say
around eight foot tall and dark. A

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lot of people don't see, they
just hear. There's a few people that

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I've heard that have seen things.
I don't know. I know one.

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I'm still trying to contact my one
friend to tell you their side. Because

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the whole family has a lot of
stories, like they've seen juveniles and things

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like that. I don't know.
I haven't got permission to tell their stories,

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so I don't know how they would
feel about that. Yeah, we

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definitely don't want to do that.
Yeah, but as a whole, like

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there's medicine men that like pray to
him here. They think of him as

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a brother, They think of him
as another tribe, like a tribe is

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very important to That's really interesting.
Does that whole area South Dakota, North

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Dakota, Montana. Is there quite
a bit of Bigfoot influence in that area?

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I would definitely say so, like
just the Black Hills in general,

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it goes from South Dakota to Wyoming. I don't does some of the touch

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I don't think any of it.
I don't think it touches the rest of

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them. That's like it goes from
Devil's Tower to like Rushmore area. It's

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like the link. There's always been
stories here, even before the Lakota came

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here. The Mundane said that Sasquatch
came from Spirit Mound, which is over

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by Vermilion, and then they were
sent over to the Black Hills to protect

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it. No, and even the
likes multiple tribes. I think them as

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the guardian of the Black Hills.
Is Spirit Mound? Is that like a

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Native American mound type setup? Yeah? Yeah, it's a Native American mound.

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I believe it's in ver Million.
There's a lot of stories associated with

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it. Lewis and Clark even visited
it. They were told that little people

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live at it, so they wanted
to go see the little people, and

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they didn't see anything. It's pretty
much the gist of the Lewis and Clark

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story. But there was long story
short. There was like a fight and

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apparently this ancient tribe wanted to ask
different spirits to come and help them with

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their fight, and they didn't,
but they released two spirits. One was

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the Sasquatch and one was the little
people. And the little people stayed near

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a Spirit mound and the Sasquatch went
towards the Black Hills, the area that's

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you're in with the Black Hills.
Is it just bigfoot? That's that's weird.

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There are there are other weird things
that you've noticed during your times.

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I've personally, I work in a
haunted restaurant. I'll be honest. It's

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very very haunted, and we see
orbs, we feel things. The place

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has been saged multiple times. But
there's a lot of stories in the area.

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There's the Keystone where Wolf there's one
of my friends was saying that they

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saw a little person, but it
didn't see much of it. It was

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just something dark and little and it
ran across with two legs, so it

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caught their eye. But again I
don't have permission to really say that story,

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so I don't want to go into
too much details. Yeah. Yeah,

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but there's definitely it's a very spiritual
area, like we believe that this

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like the natives from multiple tribes,
they believe this area is basically the Garden

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of Eden really, so yeah,
they believe this is where creations started,

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like their creation gods are basically or
Rushmore is. It was originally called six

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Grandfather Mountain and they stand for north, south, east west, above the

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sky and below the earth. And
it's a very very sacred area. Pretty

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Much everything you look at or touch
there's a story behind it. So there's

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a lot of very interesting stories,
especially from the tribes people. So we

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built a huge monument on an extremely
sacred area. That's what you're saying,

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Yes, okay, that's that's a
that's a part of history class. I

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didn't I didn't quite get that.
That sounds like, I guess we won't

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we won't touch that one. But
you guys, come on, what do

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you thinking? Sorry, that's really
like ironic, Like I got a lot

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to get into my history. That's
wild. I'm blown away by that fact.

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Yeah, the land is still technically
owned by the Lakotas. It's okay,

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refuse to take any money for what
was supposed to be their purchase place.

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M Yeah, well they can't even
own the lawn or trim the trees

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at Rushmore without the elders permission.
It's wow, kind of that's wild.

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You talked about the Keystone werewolf for
a little bit. Is that something that

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you can maybe share a little bit
about or yeah, I could share a

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little bit. It's hard to find
anything on the topic. But the gist

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of the story is there's a mine, Ingersoll mine, and some miners went

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to I think they were I don't
know if it was gold or courts.

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I want to say it was courts. They were trying to get from the

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mine, and it was the early
nineteen hundreds, I believe, and they

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were just brutally murdered by supposedly this
werewolf. And the story is kind of

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hung with the town, but it's
really hard to find a lot on it.

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Pretty much all that you hear is
from the locals they passed down the

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story. But some people claim to
see basically a dog man or were wolf

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in the area, and a lot
of people think that it's basically a skin

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walker. If not a skinwalker,
I think it was like thirty people or

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something like that. It's been a
while since I've heard the story, but

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yeah, they were I have seen
it. No that were murdered in the

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I want to say it was like
thirty people that were murdered in the mind

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and they were like torn to shreds
by sums of things. But it's kind

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of one of those stories you just
it's all they word of mouth. It's

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really really hard to find any stories
on it. But supposedly there's an article

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in a newspaper somewhere, but I
haven't been able to locate it. I

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just know people claim to hear what
they believe is the Keystone were wolf and

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they won't walk in certain areas near
the mine because of it. I heard

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of people see something around Custom State
Park as well, same description, like

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a big wolfman of some sort.
I don't know how to describe it.

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It's more people are afraid, so
they leave immediately. They don't stick around

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to see details or to find out
more. That one definitely scares people a

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lot more than Sasquatch. It's hard
to say because there's not supposed to be

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wolves in this area, but some
people try to claim that there are.

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Have you found that you've heard a
few things from reports around the area.

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Is there a certain area inside where
you are? Where? Did reports tend

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to keep coming from this one area
or are they just kind of spread all

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over the place in the Black Hills. No, the ones that I hear

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on a regular basis, they're definitely
in Keystone. They mainly come from an

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airbnb, which I'm guessing it's the
one that's towards her mostly, But to

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be honest, I don't know.
I just know it's near Keystone because I've

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heard multiple stories. Mostly they say
they heard something, they smelt something that

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smelt rotten. They found this tpee
in the woods that was made out of

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logs that were really huge, that
there's bones scattered around it. But a

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lot of them aren't visual sites.
There's only been a few where I've heard

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I saw something and it didn't make
sense, or my native friends that are

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very adamant, like this is what
I saw, This is what I hear

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this night and that night. This
is what I hear almost every night.

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But when it comes to the tourists, the monkey noises is the ones that

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they're like, well, what animal
makes a noise that sounds like a monkey?

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Can you tell me what that is
because we're starting to think it's bigfoot,

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And I usually have to tell them, well, I think it is.

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They don't like that answer. Yeah, I'm sure they don't. Definitely,

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they probably just want to explain it
away. But when they say it's

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like a monkey noise, have you
ever asked like, can you be a

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little bit more civic, like what
type of monkey noise? You're hearing or

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I hear a lot of chatter like
that chatter that chimpanzees do, and gorillas.

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I hear about that one a lot, and almost like the hooping and

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hollering. I hear about that quite
often. Recent stuff was probably less fall

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because we run from spring to fall
every year and I'm just getting the place

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cleaned up and getting back into it. So now you've got in the Keystone

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Hermosa area, you've got sasquatch sightings, but you've also have some dog man

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things around the area as well.
Yeah, is there anything else weird about

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that area or kind of out of
the ordinary. People think it's very haunted,

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and I didn't believe it until I
started working there. I work out

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a golden mine and it's from the
early nineteen hundreds, and we get people

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all the time to see ghosts in
the mine. I work at the restaurant

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end of it, and we've had
like before I started working there, people

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would say that furniture was thrown and
that's when they started staging the place.

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I've only felt presences in that place
or seen shadows that there's a well underneath

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the restaurant. They had this huge
metal bars over it that were really heavy

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and welded on and just vanished one
morning. They don't know what happened to

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it. They've had ghosts hunters in
there and they would catch orbs all over

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the place in certain areas. I
know for myself, I at first I

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was like, oh we whenever something
go wrong, I'm like, oh,

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it's the ghost. But there was
this one year where this fridge would not

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stop freezing all the beers and it
would direct me crazy. I thought there

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was an employee messing around with it. So I'm like, okay, this

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is my job now. Nobody touched
this, and every day I would come

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in and they would be frozen.
I'm like, I know nobody else is

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touching this because I'm the only one
restocking it. I'm the only one touching

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anything in here. This is weird. So I joked, I'm like,

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okay, well, I guess the
ghost did it. It was like a

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day later. Our camera guy's like, hey, you got to see these

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orbs that I caught on the camera. And sure enough, the orb goes

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in the free refrigerator where the dial
is to turn it down, and then

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it goes out the window. And
we saw this on multiple days he was

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bringing up all the videos. It
was pretty intense. But we've had guests

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tell us they see these three figures
in the mind itself, especially kids.

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They'll come up and they'll describe these
three people. It's like, I think

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it's a two gentlemen and then there's
a lady, and they describe them the

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same way each time. But I
don't work with that end very often.

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I thought. I hear from a
couple of people the stories. They're like,

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Hey, I guess what I heard
from a guest today. But it's

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more just things being weirdly missing or
broken or seeing something very physical. It's

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really weird when you talk to enough
people and you start to I don't know,

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I'm a lot of people think that
there are certain areas of the country

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where you've got like just weird stuff
happening right or window areas. Man.

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I just it feels like this area
like it's got some weird stuff going on.

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For sure. If you talk about
it from the natives point of view,

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this place is so sacred they wouldn't
even live here. They would just

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visit and do ceremonies here. It's
totally different than now. But I think

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there's a reason for it. There's
a reason they didn't want to live in

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the Black Hills. They just wanted
to be on the outskirts of it and

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visit it whenever they needed to.
It's some weird stuff for sure. That's

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a great point. You know,
I agree with you if if they weren't

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even like we're not even gonna put
a house up, and now we're going

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and putting restaurants up and putting up
monuments and stuff. Yeah, we're probably

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gonna have some weird stuff happen.
So let's say someone was to visit the

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Black Hills, what would you say
are the coolest, Like if you were

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to do a paranormal type weekend,
what would be some cool stuff that you

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could visit in that area. Definitely
the mine, big thunder gold mine,

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for sure. They used to I
don't know if they're doing it this year,

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but in the past they used to
have like nightly walks where you could

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go in with the lantern and stuff. Can you think of any other places,

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like I know there's a lot of
caves in the area, a lot

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of stories. Oh, Thunderbird,
that's another one that you hear about,

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not very often, but there's a
lot of petroc lifts of it too.

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In certain areas, especially towards Formosa
Ingersall Mine, there's a lot of like

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old gold mines and quartz mines.
A lot of them are attached with very

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speaky stories, especially ghosts. I
think you can't go into Ingersoll anymore,

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but I no. On an Iron
Mountain road, there's supposed to be ahanded

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town over there on some paths.
I'm still trying to get my friends,

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because he's got a lot more stories
than me and his whole family does.

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I'm still trying to convince him well, yeah, definitely if he does get

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to the point where he would like
to chat about that, more than welcome

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to reach out, and anyone listening
to feel free to send me an email

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Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com.
But Lizzie and Steven has been really fun

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chatting with you guys tonight about an
area I didn't really know a lot about,

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and it's given me some things to
look into. So thank you so

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much for coming on the show and
chatting tonight. Thank you. I just

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