Left Alone to Survive Against Bigfoot: A Tennessee Encounter

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All right, big for society.
You've got the privilege of talking to Marcia

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Clark. She is a investigator researcher
with the BFRO, and I'm super excited

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to talk to Marcia tonight. How's
it going today, Marcia? Oh,

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really good, really good. Nice
to be here with you. Fantastic.

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So let's go right off the bat, because you know, I've heard a

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little bit about what you've been into
in the past, but it sounds really

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fascinating. But tell me right off
the bat, like, what is it

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that got you into bigfoot in the
first place. I had a very close

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encounter class a sighting early in my
life in nineteen eighty four, and it

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always hung with me. And as
I went through my career in the Marine

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Corps and then later as a field
geologist, being out with field for weeks

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and weeks at a time around the
United States, around the globe, always

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had these unusual things a hurry.
And now at the point in my life

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where I can really focus upon the
questions I have, I'm just starting to

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dedicate those scientific principles I learned as
a meaniologist and as a geologist, and

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so I have to answer this question
to myself and I have to food it

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to myself, and that's what's driving
me very very interesting. What was the

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incident that got you connected to the
BFRL. Well, initially, I was

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in the field being some contract work
with the USBs in nineteen ninety nine and

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I happened to be walking down a
path and bumped into mister Matt Moneymakers.

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I was doing my work, he
was doing his, and we just both

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pass each other afrail. Later on, I had then in Montana doing some

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work and has some very unutral occurrences
in terms of big but her and I

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just started asking more and more questions
and I was someone told me, hey,

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you know, you should check out
this h this website that's put out

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by b f RO and so at
the time, they had the blue discussion

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boards, and I jumped on the
internet and started checking them out and talking

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to a few people and communicating and
I started to see that, you know,

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there's some credibility here, and so
I just went I just kept that

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back in my mind, and then
later when I retired, I'm saying,

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you know what, I'm going to
follow through on this, and I signed

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up for one expedition I've been on
too teen expeditions for them formal expeditions,

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another ten or twelve informal private expeditions, but other VFRO team members, and

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so I am trus being out of
my own I like the methodology to BEFRROW.

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I like the duality of collecting information, the process of collecting the data,

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but also there's another component of public
relations and public education. And so

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I think those two mission statements out
there, I think this what takes me

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to the BFRO and not others,
not looking to see anyone get hurt,

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not looking at hurting one of these
these rare animals. Just simply what you

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get the public each correct data.
And I like that model very very interesting.

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The thing about this this podcast that
I do, I talked to so

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many different types of people, and
another question that gets asked usually is but

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it helps you no exactly you know
what might be going on with a person

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is in a way when you think
about how to describe what this creature is,

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how are you categorizing what Bigfoot is
from what I've observed physically in person,

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what I've experienced in observing their behavior
on many occasions. This is a

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a member of the Homo sapien family. This is a fellow priming to us.

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I hear this mistake commonly on podcasts. Human beings are primates. Also,

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Uh, it's not there's primates of
the humans. We're primates. Also

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right now we're the highest order of
primate that exists. However, we're all

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primates. Anyhow, I see this
as a Homo sapien. There's legitimate DNA

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testing out there that that clearly demonstrates
these are a member of our our genus,

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in our species group. It's just
its own special branch. And and

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that's how I see them. That
that is very interesting. Let's say that

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let's say hypothetically tomorrow Bigfoot gets discovered
and they are they're here there with us.

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Do you think then we might be
looking at a situation where there the

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there the top of the the tree, or maybe it's they're kind of on

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a level playing field with this with
us. Is that a Is that something

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you've ever thought of before? Well, when you can, uh, this

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has going by doctor Jane Goodall's methodology
and terminate in terminology because of our use

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of tools, bring capacity, et
cetera, and because we're the ones creating

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the rules, we see ourselves as
the top of the pyramid, right we

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define returns. So and UH if
the Department Materior tomorrow was the news UH

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press coof as we are going to
formally recognize UH. These previously unrecognized prominade

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primates are living within our fullest in
North America. I still see them as

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a member of the Homo sapien group. They're not quite Homo sapien a homo

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sapien, which is what we've been
the names are. However, they're a

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member of that group, and not
as the depth of tools, not as

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a depth would language now as the
depth as we are pubosafet in Homo sapiens.

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However, they're a member of the
group. It's a thing where it'll

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be so interesting to see what happens
one day, hopefully within our lifetime.

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I hope we get to have conversations. I remember, Yeah, I remember

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as a kid living and growing up
of my life in North Florida, going

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up for the school bus out on
a limestone covered old dirt road and every

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trash day watching three different panthers knockdown
trash cans, and then the apartment fishing

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game in the state of Florida,
telling us that panthers don't exist. We've

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seen him every week at trashdall.
We could go up from the local dove

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and if you wait around at sunset
you'd hear him. But then again,

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you were told they didn't exist.
And it's kind of funny. It wasn't

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until one was videotaped going through an
alligator a corrugated steel alligator road crossing to

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one's videotaped with a camera going through
one of those tubes that wall source of

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videotape was considered enough evidence to say, oh, yeah, we're gonna declare

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that they're they're real, they're here. Half the people in Florida knew they

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were there. And so my first
question is how you know how come the

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same rule doesn't apply. But I'll
let that go. So when you're when

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you're formally recognized, I think is
a better way to look at it,

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and then we can go that next
step. Uh gotcha. It is so

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interesting how in so many different states, the the wildlife departments just don't accept

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or they don't say that big cats
exist in their area. I don't know

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what that is. That's that's probably
a different conversation, but yeah, yeah

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it is. But that's an example. For example, I believe it's the

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state of I don't know or Washington
that has a legislation that was passed about

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a decade ago that says that it
is illegal behind shoot at, or molest

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any previously arned, recognized, or
registered fridate. Some of the states are

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quilently coming around adding the legislation in
rules to protect these guys without actually shopping

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up and waving the flag. If
they won't do that, okay, which

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you know, if that's the stuff
we have to take, then that's the

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stuff we have to take. I
think we have a lot in that maggants

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go further in depth with this,
but I think there's a lot we can

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garner and word and in terms of
who we are as almost Stapiums, and

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I think there's a lot we can
gather from this cousin of ours. MM.

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Absolutely, so, Marsha, let's
get let's get right into it.

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So we'll kind of we'll start here
first. So I know that when you

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go on from what I've heard,
I haven't been on a BFR expedition yet,

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but I know that sometimes there are
certain things you have to sign and

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you might not be able to say
certain things, but are you able to

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share any specifics about what states you
may have gone to on these expeditions.

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Are I mean, I've already asked
that the more senior coordinators that question of

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what I can say and not say. I can speak generally of the state,

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what state specifically when we're talking about
it incident. We can speak about

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the general practice of rules that the
flow follows and procedures that there. It's

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a it's a pretty common format that
we follow and it's gone for safety.

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But yeah, I can speak of
a state. Uh my area specialty is

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both sides of the Appalachian from the
Pennsylvania border south so Ohio, West Virginia,

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Virginia, Kentucky, Tennessee, north
of South Carolina, and Georgia.

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That's where I've been circulating now for
some time. There's multiple plans and uh

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so I think most of them are
related, and so that's what even though

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I mean, Sky's will limit really
but I sort of focused right very in

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no states. Some of these expeditions
you hear about, they really have some

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extremely interesting things happen on them.
Are there any that stick out in your

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mind from over the years that you're
like, oh, Wow, I can't

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believe I was on that expedition where
that happened. Yeah, well, first

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off, I should put it out
there again. It's a doing mission of

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public information, public awareness in gathering
data and information and doing it in a

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safe environment. Other groups they may
leave you out in the forest and do

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reckless things and not so much of
control. Format and Golfred did if anyone

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gets hurt. The worst I've ever
seen is I think someone got stung sung

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by b and then so many got
some ant bytes on their clothing. Was

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that's about the size of it.
Uh, A very memorable expedition. This

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occurred in Ohio. I During that
expedition, I had a squatch must in

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a foot away from my ear while
I was laying in my cot in my

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tent on the other side of the
cloth of my tent, breathing in and

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out quite heavily and do a low
growl. And that same expedition I was

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actually touched big for a society will
be right back. After these messages,

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I was pushed by a squatch and
then I happened to observe and record with

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a fear a hunting party. I
probably a family play on the squatch female

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to Jules and two males and happened
to observe a hunting party with them at

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the same time that this is the
same expedition, and then have them run

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through camp seeing food off the table, and you asked me later in a

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cot, unlive it? All the
still sleep on the ground. So I

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had a metal cot and I can
actually feel the weight of the footsteps hitting

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the ground and I could feel it
transmit to my cot and go, wow,

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what's that? So yeah, that's
that all happened in one expedition.

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However, I should preface I should
also put ASTs sects to that. I've

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been a couple of expeditions where the
most encounters have had was having a few

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acres thrown at me and that was
it. So I can't say that that

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happens on every expedition. Other expeditions
the weather catches you and it rains non

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stop for four days and it's forty
five degrees. So that's just a nature

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debase. But yeah, laying in
my tent where I'm sort of at an

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ink fry, my head's higher than
my feet. My cot, my tents

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only so wide, my tests h
feet wide. I'm six foot seven,

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about three hundred pounds, and so
I slide down my cot throughout the night,

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I have to wake up, push
my stuff up, and then all

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of a sudden, I'm hearing this
this rough, heavy breathing. Let's sat

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the foot away from my ear.
All sudden heavy white noise. My ears

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start ringing, and then a hand
my feet would push out the side of

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the tent, and a hand pushing
both my feet and slides by makes my

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entire body slide up my cock.
Yeah, that was that sort of shapes

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you a little bit. You roll
out of the count, gets in the

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middle of the tent, and you
sort of sit there going okay, uh,

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what's going on? In the morning, you go out first light,

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You've got steps sixteen seventeen inches while
around your tent smati grass or food stolen

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off tables next to you. Yeah, that that's pretty eventful. That's that

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is really intense. Marsha. There's
a section you talked about that I want

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to ask you about. So you
said white noise and ringing in your ears.

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Do you think that was related to
the sasquatch? Yeah? Yeah,

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I think what was is and I
have research data on this weed. To

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speak up further, with instrumentation readings. I think it was some form of

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infrasound or whatnot. Other people in
our group who had long duration recorders going

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on actually recorded me moaning and nelly
and pain because of this noise happening.

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It was just so loud, and
so I think it was perhaps their real

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form of communication or infrasound, maybe
being zach or an extent to that,

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But as extremely the loudest white noise
I've heard artillery. I've been in a

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helicopter in the Marine Corps. I
know what loud noise is, and this

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is painful. This was painful.
It only lasted for a few short verses

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from what I remember. However,
the duration of umaning and painting lasted almost

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four minutes on the long duration recorders
that we can camp, so it was

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enough. It took me out of
my deepest leap and I could actually hear

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this animal breathing heavily and grunting right
next to my ears. Did anyone else

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in the campsite also Were they also
affected the same way or in other ways

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during that time? No. The
person prossibly forty feet on the other side

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of the path from me, whose
camp was their test was set up.

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They had a table out, had
some food on the table, not as

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a gift situation, but just left
forgot it there. They heard the squats

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running up and heard the table shake
and the food being taken. The other

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members of our great did belong duration
recorders. They heard me yelling and moaning

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in my sleep and pain. There
were others just down to my left that

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had handprints on their cars as well
as I did, and then in the

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morning finding the footprints around its heads
as well, and then a partial handprint

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outside of the table. And this
was in Ohio. You said, yeah,

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this was Ohio. That's the best
description I think. Yeah, no,

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I totally get it. We can't
get any more specific than that,

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but like I can think of a
few few areas that that that. Yeah,

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Ohio can be crazy in a lot
of people realize that, but it

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can be wild. Let's see,
I've been in one, two, three,

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four. I've been in four different
research areas in Ohio over the last

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four years three years, and without
a doubt, each each areas unique.

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However, there is there is definite
activity, there is they're there and you

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can see it. I've had two
If you were using the BFO classification of

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a B C. I consider spotting
the sclash through fear infra red monocular or

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binoculars. I considered that a B
plus. I'm not I consider it as

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you see it with your own eyes
in person. Definitely, Uh, if

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it's still a fear I started considered
that a B plus. So I've had

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the A there, I've had multiple
B pluses. Uh. In Ohio up

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like I said, numeless and captures
there in the place is renowned for it.

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I mean, if you look at
the history of Salt Fork State Park,

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they actually have a whole center established
by the state of Ohio next adnising

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sasquatch in the tell you they actually
have events that take place in the state

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park celebrating these hominis. So yeah, I want to go back to that

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the night where you had that those
interactions. So at any time did you

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hear any sounds that that sounded monkey
like or ape like or or primate like

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in any way it was heavy breathing, uh, some gruffness, like a

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gravelly low tone part of the breathing
process. It's my assumption that they had

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been running. There's probably two The
footsteps identified that there were two that they

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had been running through the forest to
get to our camp, and so they

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were breathing quite hard, quite heavily, and so you know, if you

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run pretty hard for a lot of
distance, figure you're going to have a

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gravelly in and out process of breathing. But no, there was there was

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no chatter, no samurai chatter,
nothing like that. Sure you mentioned there

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were handprints captured on cars. How
big were these handprints that were captured?

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Some of them were natured if you
were to spread the fingers with your hand

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out as far as you can from
the tip of the thumb, the tip

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of your your thinking having that in
excess of sixteen inches, oh my goodness.

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Uh. And the fact that there
was like like a silty like oiling

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substance that was there as well.
I've seen those types of handprints and other

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locations and that, and I think
that's really suggestive as perhaps maybe where they

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nest or maybe the geology of where
they nest they have if then another sample

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that could do a chemical analysis of
it, and you see what kind of

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play is of anyhow. But yeah, the numeless cars and in fact,

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one of our senior people, very
well respected person, he has a file

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of bigfoot fingerprint because we get so
many of them on automobiles and equipment and

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argies and whatnot, that he actually
carries a fingerprint kit and as an experienced

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person in doing that kind of uh
uh data question. And we actually has

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a Dayna phile on fingerprints, which
I think is extremely awesome. Actually I've

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never heard of that before. That's
really cool. There is another individual who

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has the database of actually the German
religions from footprints which are coming in their

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own like like fingerprints. I don't
recall his name off him uh in that

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senior person that would be a PR. I don't have his permission to release

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his name. However, he's well
respecting in the community by hundreds of people,

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and I didn't know that he has
this file established. And so when

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you saw handprints all over the vehicles
up and down the line, going out

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there and collecting that datastremely important.
In fact, every expedition now we tell

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attendees because the investigators know better,
but we tell attendees in the morning when

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you wake up, you know,
when you back up before you go to

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bed at night, take your smartphone
out and take a quick picture of your

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camp. Help touch nothing, take
a picture for the bed in the morning.

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There's two things that want you to
do. One, take another picture

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of your camp, see if anything's
the move. And the second is look

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at your vehicle. Most places we
go, as you know, dusty roads,

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etc. You're going to see handprints, a lot of finds on your

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vehicle, squatches like the look in
the cars to see if the something in

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there worth thinking and then it will
take something if you leave it alone.

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And so we tell attends to be
mindful of that. And in certain areas

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it's a fifty fifty chance you'll wake
up for a handprint or nose prints on

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maybe your driver door, a back
atch your suv. You may wake up

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and see that your ice chest has
been rotated and moved around or opened and

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left open, those kinds of things. But yeah, we put that out

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there when you were looking at the
handprints and the fingerprints, was there any

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seabum that was left behind that you
noticed. Sometimes there's like an oily substance.

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I believe it's called sum by Doug
Hicheck. Yeah, there's white oily

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substance, right. I believe again
just being practical here that if they're crawing

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and digging maybe for food or in
a place where they're nesting. That material

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is now here to their hands,
to their skin, and that could be

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suggested of where they live. But
yes, in the fissues you see quite

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obviously the white oily substance with clear
swools of the fear fit with scarring and

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everything else. That's very cool.
I've been on a few private expeditions so

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far, and on those we will
do certain things in camp to see if

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we can make them curious to draw
them into camp later on that night.

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Does in BFR expeditions, are you
guys doing anything from the expeditions that I've

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been on, I can only attest
to those expeditions. Okay, However,

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it's the general consensus. They know
we're there, They see us, they

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know what food looks like, they
know what cameras look like. We don't

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need to leave out traps or gifting
or anything like that. They know we're

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there. They see us in a
couple of instances. I think they anticipate

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us being there, But that's just
my afterthought. We don't sit in camp

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and do tree knocks or anything like
that. We get out in betrayals in

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your night operations. That's to the
discussion of the team leader of whether or

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not they're going to do that.
But they're gonna they're gonna limit that to

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tree knocks. Maybe how maybe imitate
in an owl call, perhaps big so

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society will be right back after these
messages. When I've been out on the

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trails and night ops, I don't
do treecks, I don't new hollers,

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I douil't new screens. It's my
general belief that when a SPOTS does a

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tree knock, does an indication that
there's at least two or more in the

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area, because the SPOTS is only
doing that tree knock not for your benefit,

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it's doing it for the benefit of
another to identify for something here.

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There have been times we have recorded
a chain event of treeofs and where there's

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an uck from another knock and then
further down another knock, and they're communicating

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perhaps three or four in sequence,
and I should have to ask that it's

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not just one of the three.
Not Sometimes it's rock blacking and in one

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case actually the clicking of muscle fells
and flames. Oh wow, as well,

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that's that's really cool. That's a
new one for me. But it

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makes sense, you know, they're
using the tools that they have in the

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area. So I would think that, you know, can you share a

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time where you had a what the
BFR I would consider a Class A or

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a visual sighting. Yeah, nineteen
eighty four, I was in young Marie.

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I went to Bridgeport, California,
which is in Ciero Mountains of California,

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during the winter for cold weather training. I was standing guard duty and

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rip public called firewatch, mostly low
calls of guard duty. And I was

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doing my shift for three hours and
there's about six to eight inches of snow

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on the ground, and so you're
standing on a pallette that's been putting on

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the ground. So make sure you
don't get a hyper you know, crossfight,

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you through your booze or whatever.
And well you have your N sixteen,

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you've got your cold weather geary.
In this particular night, it was

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a second tigh night stood firewatch.
I was standing out there. I'm on

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the midnight to three shift, clear
moonlight sky. You're up in the mountains

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that I believe it's seventy five thousand
feet in elevations. I'd have to check

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that number. Anyhow, that's stamware
and very little wind. And I look

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over and a tree, this huge
tree, and all of a sudden,

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at thirty feet away from me,
a splotch steps out from behind a tree.

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Locks we lock eyes for six seven
eight mississippies, and I had my

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fifteen out. I had my thumb
on the selector switch to put it on

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fire, and I just I couldn't
do it. I froze. Like I

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said, I'm six seven, three
hundred pounds with all my gear on,

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flat jacket and everything else. You'd
look a lot bigger this splotch. It

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taught me humility. And I know
it's kind of odd to say, but

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up until that point, I thought
I was the biggest baddest animal in the

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forest. Main course, and part
of that, you know, teaching you

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you're against the bold, and that's
explain, that's let's go. However,

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I believe that I believe that was
the baddest thing in the forest. And

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I saw something that was eight and
a half nine feet all probably close to

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one thousand pounds, came in like
eyes, and we locked eyes at thirty

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feet and I said to myself,
I know I'm not the biggest baddest thing

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in the forest. And I could
not move my arms. I am like

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I said, it was six eight
Mississippis, and and as fast as it

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came up from behind the tree,
he was back behind it and gone.

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Uh later, my staff starger came
by. You have to report anything unusual

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to report, and I told my
staff guard and he said, listen,

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just put in your log that new
encountered in Digito, this wildlife. It'll

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be easier. He says, I've
been up here a dozen times and sometimes

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you see things. I go,
yes, sir, So that's what I

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did. Uh Later. I couldn't
go out there and measure steps and do

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all that other because you've got to
get we ad jeeps. You have humpies

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back then, so you get your
jeep and but you get see the steps

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were the spacing was probably twice that
of mine footprints or I was a size

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a men's size fifteen as a women's
size seventeen goes what we do the conversion

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and probably half again as long and
double it with that was the impression into

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the smell, like I said it. That image seeing that stayed written the

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rest of the time I was in
America, and every once in a while,

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uh like in Japan or Okinawo Butler
you're aut in woods, you're on

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the point. Whenever you always have
I always had this littlest mitet about what

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at that is out there, and
that's the question that I've been driving to

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resolve all this time. That's that's
incredible to have that kind of citing when

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you're in the military like that,
and also to have your you said,

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your sergeant pretty much allude that,
Yeah, I've seen stuff too, you

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know, and I'm not going to
talk about it. Yeah, it's I

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don't want to need people to think
that there's some kind of organized conspiracy to

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cover up data, even just looking
out for me right to say, hey,

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don't create ways just everything's fine.
Yeah, there's some strange stuff out

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here, evens with stuff. There's
strange stuff out here. You go,

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you're the lingering but just right indigenous
life cause you this wild mind. It

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makes you wonder if people should start
using the terminology indigenous wildlife when they do

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fier request now for bigfoot stuff exactly
exactly So, like I said, the

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rest of the time of my career, whenever we were in the woods,

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I always had that in the back
of the line, there's something like that

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gonna pop out again. I never
confessed that to anyone until I was well

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out of the Marine Corps and that
was oh gosh, that was a grasping

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U C l A. And I
had retired from the Marine Corps. Did

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I ever share that story with anyone? Wow? Have you ever been on

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any expeditions with the BFRL where there
were classes that occurred in those expeditions?

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Yes? Yes, another expedition witnessing. I was come hunting, but we

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believe us a hunting party on this
very narrow ridge, like filling into a

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horseshoe valley. And this ridge just
comes out into a point and at its

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widest part is probably twenty feet wide, and that smokes down on either side

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sixteen seventy feet, goes flat forward
very short distance to go back up to

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another ridge. And on the north
side of this ridge there's a line of

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shrubbery like while oleander or something like
that. That's for us. It's about

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five and act sixteep tall, and
myself and others descending in the circle.

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We've got a fire going and we're
just talking normal act like you know,

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we're not there for a sasquatch,
but we are. All of a sudden,

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Rocks gets are starting to get thrown
at us, small ones starting in

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marbles, acorns. They're coming from
behind us. And also I'm from the

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front of us. And and also
we're telling our group leader, hey,

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what stuff thrown at us. We're
on the top of a ridge. There's

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nothing above us to follow on us, so where's it coming from? And

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she's telling us, okay, and
go keep come, let's keep come.

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So I follow up my flinger and
I stand up and I look to the

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north where I can look over this
shrubbery. And and if you find her,

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my flinger is this big, and
I have it stuff for a white

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hot. It's this big white hot
orb with part of a black dot.

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And I'm thinking I need to calibrate
this or something. And I pulled it

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away and it's not an orb.
I was looking at this and a squatch

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face so close that it looked like
a white orb in my view finder.

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That this squatch was probably fifteen feet
away, thirteen feet and I'm standing up

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looking over the hedge of the bushes, looking down, and it's looking up

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at me. It's standing below me, and its heads almost even to the

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top of those bushes. So seven
and a half eight feet overall height.

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Also, I start breathing heavy and
I go there it is. I start

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yelling out loudness. I shouldn't have
done what I did there. It is

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there, This is right there.
It's right there, and Scotch tastes off,

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goes down into that little valley,
and meanwhile behind us we hear the

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growl and the movement of two other
much heavier scouts. We also note that

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six feet away is a deer actually
shaking uncontrollably inside the bush right next to

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us, newly six feet away,
and they're just sitting there, totally not

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intimidated by us humans. They're just
sitting there shaking. And we hear the

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two very large squats behind us,
once in the southwest ones in the southeast.

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They've made grunt noises. They're jumping
up down, they're angry or throwing

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things at us. Meaning at the
one through the north is now run down

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the valley and has come up the
other side. And when it comes up

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the other side, it gets behind
the bush and it starts needing back and

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forth. Because of the temperature contrast, there was about forty five degrees we

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could actually see on fear her breath, you know, like this was cold,

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and see your breath. We actually
saw her breath. What was so

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fantastic about that? Was to either
side of her, there were these two

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four and a half the five foot
tall hot spots in the trees, moving

405
00:43:25.639 --> 00:43:32.840
around in the trees. They're too
juveniles. With her now behind us again,

406
00:43:34.000 --> 00:43:38.960
this is all happens simultaneously. They
turn around and the one very large

407
00:43:38.960 --> 00:43:47.320
ones despect the nail that was to
the southwest, he spounced off further to

408
00:43:47.360 --> 00:43:53.280
the southwest. The deer bolts bescards
running down the slope. The one that

409
00:43:53.360 --> 00:44:00.760
was to the southeast. He has
circled a land and received his silhouette between

410
00:44:00.760 --> 00:44:07.880
the vehicles. He needs one handprint
on a vehicle fender, and he passes

411
00:44:08.000 --> 00:44:15.800
three. There's four vehicles parked at
about oh one hundred and twenty one hundred

412
00:44:15.840 --> 00:44:20.440
twenty five feet away. That's how
we got there. And so he's passed

413
00:44:20.480 --> 00:44:24.440
between those and it's now going down
slope, making a lot of noise being

414
00:44:24.519 --> 00:44:30.639
it going towards the female and the
few small ones that were in the three

415
00:44:32.320 --> 00:44:37.960
standing up and looking at across that
bush and his face being so big that

416
00:44:37.079 --> 00:44:43.000
you couldn't even see it all in
the fleeor I pulled the fear away and

417
00:44:43.079 --> 00:44:45.960
that action saw a face looking back
at me. That was a class a

418
00:44:46.880 --> 00:44:52.960
wow. Uh, can you share
what state that occurred in? That was

419
00:44:52.000 --> 00:44:57.320
in Ohio? That was in Ohio
two. I was like, that's got

420
00:44:57.320 --> 00:45:01.079
to be West Virginia. Now that's
Ohio too. No, I just I

421
00:45:01.159 --> 00:45:06.679
just came back on a Friday expedition
in West Virginia Sunday night. I was

422
00:45:06.719 --> 00:45:10.159
out there for four days and uh, but no, this this was so

423
00:45:13.400 --> 00:45:19.320
that is incredible. Did you were
you able to record anything during that incounter?

424
00:45:20.159 --> 00:45:27.000
Re recorded all that on the fear
Most of us minimum of clear scout

425
00:45:27.480 --> 00:45:32.039
right, and you just have the
button and you record and I recorded the

426
00:45:32.079 --> 00:45:39.400
scratch, went down the valley back
up the next ridge. Everything that recorded

427
00:45:39.440 --> 00:45:45.400
and the audio was afore recorded as
well, and that's property of the BFIRO.

428
00:45:45.800 --> 00:46:06.639
Big for a Society will be right
back after these messages. That's incredible.

429
00:46:06.679 --> 00:46:09.119
I mean, I can't can't even
imagine. But wow, what an

430
00:46:09.119 --> 00:46:15.840
interaction. Uh what You've mentioned this
term hunting party a few times. What

431
00:46:15.840 --> 00:46:20.639
what what's your definition of that?
Like? How can you look at a

432
00:46:20.679 --> 00:46:24.320
group and be like, oh,
they're they're probably a hunting party. Well,

433
00:46:25.079 --> 00:46:30.719
we have to look at the sociologically
Okay, Uh, the Native Americans

434
00:46:30.760 --> 00:46:39.559
and First Nations people's to this area
pame to North America. Squatches presumably were

435
00:46:39.599 --> 00:46:46.599
already here. And so the fact
that they don't have tools like spears and

436
00:46:46.880 --> 00:46:54.039
crossbows and pretiosich rifles, et cetera. They have techniques for hunting, uh.

437
00:46:54.119 --> 00:47:02.280
And those techniques h are quite similar
to what observed in early Dative Americans,

438
00:47:02.280 --> 00:47:12.400
the First Nation's peoples. The fact
that in and before clothes peoples chasing

439
00:47:12.480 --> 00:47:17.320
a group of bison or anaalope for
deer down the slope then off the cliff,

440
00:47:19.360 --> 00:47:25.079
or chasing a group of deer from
one direction into a waving group ready

441
00:47:25.119 --> 00:47:31.960
to grab them. Okay, if
that's the behavior that's to learned now the

442
00:47:32.079 --> 00:47:37.039
squatches learned from First Nations and early
Native Americans, or the Native Americans the

443
00:47:37.039 --> 00:47:43.199
First Nation people learned that from them, I don't know. Okay, that's

444
00:47:43.239 --> 00:47:50.519
a whole different masters pieces on the
own. However, what we observed was

445
00:47:50.519 --> 00:47:54.599
a female a few three of these, coming up a slope, chasing the

446
00:47:54.719 --> 00:47:59.960
deer that was right next to us
and hoping to drive it into the waiting

447
00:48:00.159 --> 00:48:04.159
arms of the two large males behind
us, and we just had to have

448
00:48:04.360 --> 00:48:08.559
the dumb luck of the walking into
the middle of it. That's why the

449
00:48:08.639 --> 00:48:14.599
two the rocks and acorns at us. That's why all that was taking place

450
00:48:14.639 --> 00:48:22.800
to get us out of there.
So you see this behavior of hunting,

451
00:48:22.679 --> 00:48:30.280
and this has been observed before where
maybe one or two sposors are driving an

452
00:48:30.280 --> 00:48:37.079
elk or driving a group of mule
beer in one direction downslope because it's easier.

453
00:48:37.199 --> 00:48:40.239
It was balanced on a trick and
a rocket tree at separate, fall

454
00:48:40.320 --> 00:48:46.639
down and then spots your nab that
you grab it. This is the behavior

455
00:48:47.280 --> 00:48:58.800
that goes well before theanderfal probably the
pro magnet era that early man did.

456
00:48:59.639 --> 00:49:07.480
So again who talking mm hmm.
How does a group of Native American slash

457
00:49:07.519 --> 00:49:13.480
First Nations people hunt a mascadom at
least two thousand pounds and all they have

458
00:49:13.960 --> 00:49:19.079
is primitive spears? What they do
and they did this with long horned bison,

459
00:49:19.480 --> 00:49:23.599
et cetera. If you stampede them
down a slope or off it,

460
00:49:23.880 --> 00:49:31.159
or stamping them off the cliff,
and when they fall that now they're disabled

461
00:49:31.199 --> 00:49:37.960
to h to you know, harness
them to gather them up. They kill

462
00:49:37.000 --> 00:49:42.360
them, and you know that's their
their source of food, clothing, et

463
00:49:42.440 --> 00:49:53.239
cetera. So here we see that
same primitive type behavior occurring and that makes

464
00:49:53.239 --> 00:49:59.880
perfect sense. That sort of matches
their their technology level, that matches their

465
00:50:00.039 --> 00:50:05.719
favior level. You know, we
don't see that with a with a ring

466
00:50:05.800 --> 00:50:10.119
of things or silverebecaris with Japanzees,
but we see it with this fire order

467
00:50:10.159 --> 00:50:16.320
fright nate not say behavior. It's
incredibly interesting, is the side of it

468
00:50:16.400 --> 00:50:21.199
that I've never really thought of before, and it's it's a very cool conversation.

469
00:50:21.960 --> 00:50:24.679
There's a question that keeps bouncing around
in my head and I'm going to

470
00:50:24.760 --> 00:50:30.679
ask it, and just I am
very serious with this question, even though

471
00:50:30.719 --> 00:50:35.280
it may come across a little silly. But you mentioned you have a size

472
00:50:35.360 --> 00:50:42.760
fifteen shoe, right, Yes,
Are you ever concerned that your footprints are

473
00:50:43.079 --> 00:50:52.679
misconstrued for sasquatch footprints during an experts
No, it's non snowy question because the

474
00:50:52.840 --> 00:50:57.920
science there's no such thing as still
questions. Sure, first move, Second,

475
00:50:58.360 --> 00:51:02.000
I do not walk around the floors
barefoot. I do not walk around

476
00:51:02.760 --> 00:51:09.039
the graphic for the pins and sand
burgs and poison ivy. I wear where

477
00:51:10.239 --> 00:51:16.280
uh I don't in a stasquatch foot. First off, even if I did,

478
00:51:17.519 --> 00:51:23.480
there's two very distinct differences. One, it's that that mid break right

479
00:51:23.639 --> 00:51:31.639
exactly my foot. Humans do not
bend in the middle. One and two

480
00:51:32.159 --> 00:51:39.679
therefore is pluses why this money plus
is why there you go? So No,

481
00:51:39.880 --> 00:51:47.599
so even if I had did that, I probably that have multiple all

482
00:51:47.639 --> 00:51:52.639
kinds of problems with my feet.
But I don't fair enough. You also

483
00:51:52.719 --> 00:52:00.719
mentioned that you're a geologist. Yes, earlier have you found that there are

484
00:52:00.880 --> 00:52:07.199
more bigfoot sightings or reports around certain
deposits of rock types. Well, it's

485
00:52:07.239 --> 00:52:13.880
not so much deposits. Deposits suggest
when you use it to any time,

486
00:52:14.119 --> 00:52:17.800
joagist. So when we use the
which deposits, we're speaking of an action

487
00:52:19.039 --> 00:52:29.280
either fuvial or atmospherically or through some
mechanical process that is needed material. So

488
00:52:29.480 --> 00:52:35.760
that answer, would you know?
However, there is a correlation when you

489
00:52:36.000 --> 00:52:42.000
map this out, Ah, when
you look at a map of sightings.

490
00:52:43.360 --> 00:52:49.320
Now, when I'll put an asterisk
next to that we're sighting and I'll come

491
00:52:49.400 --> 00:52:53.719
back to it a little bit.
Okay, when you look at sightings a

492
00:52:53.840 --> 00:52:58.480
map of them, and you look
at a math of what is called Kart's

493
00:52:58.760 --> 00:53:07.800
topography, paleo valkanism, balcanism,
or current balconism. When you look at

494
00:53:08.880 --> 00:53:15.239
formations that easily fracture, for example, the slates and mudstone, silt stones

495
00:53:15.840 --> 00:53:20.840
and in coal. Uh here in
the appellation. When you look at those

496
00:53:20.920 --> 00:53:25.119
areas on the us ES geologic math, we overlay that with a map of

497
00:53:25.239 --> 00:53:32.639
sightings. You'll see there's all a
direct one to one correlation. Uh.

498
00:53:34.199 --> 00:53:38.400
It's been well documented that the nest
pier stripe, for example. Uh,

499
00:53:38.519 --> 00:53:47.960
they use to store meat in cays
out in the upper Northwest. Those caves

500
00:53:49.000 --> 00:53:57.920
happen to be old volcanic tubes,
right so, and they would ask me

501
00:53:58.000 --> 00:54:02.400
because of the process of pressure Iceland
and now there are tourist trafts called ice

502
00:54:02.480 --> 00:54:10.760
caves. There are multitudes of these
volcanic caves, volcanic tudes located throughout the

503
00:54:10.880 --> 00:54:17.360
Northwest, multitudes of them, probably
half of them not yet. Now.

504
00:54:19.639 --> 00:54:25.119
Okay, now we look in Florida. That's where there's Antexas and parts of

505
00:54:25.119 --> 00:54:35.920
Oklahoma where there's a strong preblet what's
called kars photography, limestone underground caverns where

506
00:54:35.960 --> 00:54:43.119
the surface exposures where they've been eroaded
out et cetera. Then you get into

507
00:54:43.199 --> 00:54:50.880
the Appalachian where you have these wonderfully
booked scenes of sandstone, glaystone, coll

508
00:54:51.000 --> 00:54:54.840
scenes, et cetera that can fall
out and create those did this for shelter

509
00:54:55.960 --> 00:55:00.480
no I mentioned earlier about the line
that's just roches had on their hands at

510
00:55:00.480 --> 00:55:06.360
the left the windows. If we
sample that, you see what type of

511
00:55:06.519 --> 00:55:13.280
plague or what substance is, then
that we could probably generally match that up

512
00:55:13.440 --> 00:55:22.400
to an area where they recently had
been. Very simple c side eis what's

513
00:55:22.480 --> 00:55:25.199
in it? Where did they come
from? Where did that material come from?

514
00:55:28.480 --> 00:55:32.360
And you'll be able to find okayre
shale, and there's biotype mica and

515
00:55:32.840 --> 00:55:37.760
there's this type of felspark. Well, where are those three materials located?

516
00:55:37.760 --> 00:55:40.800
You're looking at the map Boom boom
boom, that's where it was. Wow.

517
00:55:42.440 --> 00:55:47.760
So anyhow, you calling the USCS
theologic map, you don't need one

518
00:55:47.800 --> 00:55:54.639
that's finding detailed this generality, and
you match it with sightings maps. Now,

519
00:55:54.719 --> 00:56:00.039
remember earlier stut for astress that we're
citing. You're going to remember that

520
00:56:00.199 --> 00:56:08.280
sightings have classifications. And if you
get through an area where there's females and

521
00:56:08.400 --> 00:56:19.519
juveniles. See that's probably part of
a residential population. Of those scratches cited

522
00:56:19.719 --> 00:56:27.000
walking through a field, walking across
the road a highway are males now females.

523
00:56:29.000 --> 00:56:36.079
Females typically don't wander and move,
especially if they have a young one

524
00:56:36.199 --> 00:56:40.360
with them. We don't see that
with any other primates. Do the females

525
00:56:40.480 --> 00:56:47.440
travel. It's the males to travel. So when you say sightings, I'm

526
00:56:47.519 --> 00:56:58.000
talking about resident populations, plans of
Scotch where there may be a dominant male

527
00:56:58.119 --> 00:57:02.079
through or three females. It is
two or three older males, maybe five

528
00:57:02.199 --> 00:57:07.559
or six female. Something on the
order of a like a gorilla congress or

529
00:57:07.599 --> 00:57:14.000
something like that. They might be
forming that. It could also be quite

530
00:57:14.039 --> 00:57:17.440
similar to one in the NFL family
unit or command. The family doesn't work

531
00:57:17.559 --> 00:57:24.639
like that's just a suggestion. But
and so when we see, you know,

532
00:57:24.920 --> 00:57:29.679
someone's driving that highway whatever number,
in the middle of the night and

533
00:57:29.760 --> 00:57:38.159
they see this ten foot guy that's
fowling across the sixtine highway, he's alone

534
00:57:38.239 --> 00:57:45.760
traveler, right, Okay, okay, nap those sightings. But they're traveling

535
00:57:45.880 --> 00:57:54.239
to get to another location where they're
migrating, and he's migrating to an area.

536
00:57:54.800 --> 00:58:00.119
Where are where there are resident females. That's where he's going to,

537
00:58:00.920 --> 00:58:05.599
and where are we going to find
this rights females? Uh? They he

538
00:58:06.000 --> 00:58:10.039
far from home and ask them to
be where you find cart topography, pale

539
00:58:10.039 --> 00:58:17.079
your volcanic or active volcanic topography,
or where there is well booked, very

540
00:58:17.239 --> 00:58:24.880
mature, uh sedentary apostles like the
Appalachia Man. There's a lot to unpack

541
00:58:24.960 --> 00:58:29.639
from this one. This is definitely
one I will be listening to a few

542
00:58:29.719 --> 00:58:34.480
times. This is incredible. H. The last question I want to ask

543
00:58:34.599 --> 00:58:39.719
you, Marcia, is has there
ever been a time when something happened during

544
00:58:39.800 --> 00:58:44.039
an expedition and you were like,
you know what, I'm fine with if

545
00:58:44.079 --> 00:58:47.880
I could leave right now, I'm
out of here. Yeah, yeah,

546
00:58:47.920 --> 00:58:55.599
I had. I had an unusual
experience. This is not Ohio, this

547
00:58:55.760 --> 00:59:06.519
is Tennessee. It was maybe I
should have made better choices. I this

548
00:59:06.760 --> 00:59:15.920
was a VFL expedition had concluded it
was done. However, our senior leadership

549
00:59:15.039 --> 00:59:22.000
rented a massive tent that you get
from a rental company. You come out,

550
00:59:22.000 --> 00:59:27.480
you see them in these car loss
and refuge for fifty sixty feet long

551
00:59:27.719 --> 00:59:32.639
or twenty thirty feet wide. Anyhow, our group had rented one and we

552
00:59:32.760 --> 00:59:38.679
were camping in the group camping area
and had this massive tent put up,

553
00:59:39.599 --> 00:59:46.000
and so the rental company could not
come back and pick it up until that

554
00:59:46.199 --> 00:59:53.119
Monday morning, and the expedition had
concluded Sunday morning. Big for Society will

555
00:59:53.159 --> 01:00:14.079
be right back after these messages.
Okay, So I'm another person. Ball

556
01:00:14.079 --> 01:00:19.719
appeared to stay behind. Well,
just by coincidence, the state was closing

557
01:00:19.840 --> 01:00:28.119
this area to everyone for a period
of time, so all campers help,

558
01:00:28.320 --> 01:00:31.840
everyone had to go, even a
camp host left for a couple of days.

559
01:00:32.800 --> 01:00:37.960
The rangers were gone at meetings,
so the only human beings in this

560
01:00:37.199 --> 01:00:44.519
area were me and my field partner. We're there to watch the tent thinke

561
01:00:44.519 --> 01:00:49.440
sure nothing happened to it, and
to be there to unlock the gate so

562
01:00:49.639 --> 01:00:54.239
the rental company become the install it
and take it and take it away and

563
01:00:54.360 --> 01:00:59.880
the document if there's any damage.
We don't want our friend, uh,

564
01:01:00.639 --> 01:01:05.800
the senior coordinator, to be built
unnecessarily for a supposed advantage, so we're

565
01:01:05.840 --> 01:01:12.880
there to observe all that. So
everyone means in the parts Sunday morning like

566
01:01:13.039 --> 01:01:19.639
normal expedition, And so I'm staying
behind, and this other person's staying high

567
01:01:19.679 --> 01:01:23.760
well there well on the other side
of the crew camp area to say,

568
01:01:23.920 --> 01:01:30.280
to the north, and I'm on
the very south side, and this huge

569
01:01:30.360 --> 01:01:38.519
tent relented was about one hundred yards
away from where I can So during the

570
01:01:38.639 --> 01:01:44.039
day, he and I go get
lunch, we come back, and so

571
01:01:45.639 --> 01:01:49.440
I go over to one of the
adjacent fire rings from me, about sixty

572
01:01:49.519 --> 01:01:54.760
feet away, and the previous camper
there left a big stack of wood,

573
01:01:55.199 --> 01:02:00.320
beautiful red oak. That's not I'm
gonna need that tonight. We're respecting kind

574
01:02:00.320 --> 01:02:07.559
of raining, drizzling, gonna be
in the fifties. So anyhow, so

575
01:02:07.760 --> 01:02:12.400
I go over there with my big
foot wagon carrying a roof of my suv,

576
01:02:13.360 --> 01:02:17.360
and I'm gonna load wood to bring
it over to my cants. So

577
01:02:17.519 --> 01:02:22.000
I'm over there. I pulled the
picnic table plaster fire rings by the place

578
01:02:22.000 --> 01:02:24.920
to sit down, and I'm sitting
on the edge of the picnic table and

579
01:02:25.000 --> 01:02:31.840
I'm slowly stacking wood if my wagon
and at my two o'clock behind a tree

580
01:02:34.880 --> 01:02:42.800
at thirty five forty feet away,
a dulinusquatch look shot from behind a tree

581
01:02:44.480 --> 01:02:47.719
and then runs through another tree further
from my right to my three thirties,

582
01:02:47.760 --> 01:02:55.400
say, four o'clock, six foot
navy six and a half feet, maybe

583
01:02:55.440 --> 01:03:02.880
two hundred pounds, very thin hair, grayish, dark gray skin, leathery

584
01:03:04.119 --> 01:03:12.000
skin in the face. Uh,
comical head. I'm bigger than that,

585
01:03:13.239 --> 01:03:20.239
Judy. And so my first thing
experience with problem is keep don't panic,

586
01:03:20.800 --> 01:03:24.320
don't start breathing now, don't start
pointing, don't start yelling. I just

587
01:03:24.480 --> 01:03:28.000
every time I reached for a piece
of wood, I would gently turn my

588
01:03:28.079 --> 01:03:31.000
body a little bit more to my
right to see the second tree he's gone

589
01:03:31.039 --> 01:03:36.440
to. As soon as he gets
to about my three o'clock one thirty position,

590
01:03:37.599 --> 01:03:44.079
boom boats to another tree. Now
he's so far behind me, I'm

591
01:03:44.079 --> 01:03:45.960
gonna have to make it obvious that
I see him and I turn around.

592
01:03:46.360 --> 01:03:51.880
So I turn around real quick,
and he's he's split. He's gone.

593
01:03:54.360 --> 01:03:58.840
I get on the radio. I
call my field partner. I go,

594
01:03:59.000 --> 01:04:01.599
hey, yes, that's what I
just saw. This. Come on down

595
01:04:01.719 --> 01:04:09.800
here and you backtracktice trail and maybe
we ain't seen again. Still he comes

596
01:04:09.840 --> 01:04:16.199
down the trail, he's he doesn't
see anything, okay, So he goes

597
01:04:16.239 --> 01:04:19.679
back to his tech area. I
go back to mind. I'm now all

598
01:04:19.800 --> 01:04:23.920
excited. I got I got some
more of that word. I'm taking it

599
01:04:23.960 --> 01:04:28.519
back back hand site, and I'm
telling myself, this is going to be

600
01:04:28.639 --> 01:04:35.760
a very long night. That's a
juvenile mom and dad. That minimum mob

601
01:04:36.400 --> 01:04:42.679
has to be in the area.
It's gonna be a long night. Though.

602
01:04:42.760 --> 01:04:46.840
I told myself, I'm gonna have
sent me more colts and I need

603
01:04:46.920 --> 01:04:55.679
to be prepared for that. So
about twenty minutes later, I get a

604
01:04:55.719 --> 01:04:58.880
call from my funeral partner says,
hey, marching, you know what,

605
01:05:00.760 --> 01:05:05.840
I just don't feel comfortable here.
I'm going to go home. Well,

606
01:05:06.639 --> 01:05:15.400
okay, general rule is we don't
leave people alone. But I'm a big

607
01:05:15.440 --> 01:05:18.599
girl. Let's take care of myself. I'm well armed. If I got

608
01:05:18.639 --> 01:05:24.280
a special weapondery, the deal,
we'll ask about God forbid if I right

609
01:05:24.360 --> 01:05:29.880
has to so not a problem.
So he passed up in these I go

610
01:05:30.039 --> 01:05:34.719
back to my can site and I
start telling myself I need to be prepared.

611
01:05:39.440 --> 01:05:42.559
I moved my tent back a little
bit. My tent is eight feet

612
01:05:42.639 --> 01:05:47.079
by sixteen feet. It's seven foot
pole in the center. I moved my

613
01:05:47.159 --> 01:05:53.639
tent back about foot so the actual
back of my tent. The long side

614
01:05:53.639 --> 01:06:00.559
of my tent is directly touching these
huge bushes that are behind me. I

615
01:06:00.599 --> 01:06:09.000
don't know if they're flower bushes.
I'm not a green person. I moved

616
01:06:09.039 --> 01:06:15.199
my car and I asked me back
up and drive over my own tent states

617
01:06:15.599 --> 01:06:19.159
ten states, so that the one
end of my tent, dight foot white

618
01:06:19.360 --> 01:06:24.719
end of my tent is actually touching
the back reel well the passenger side of

619
01:06:24.760 --> 01:06:29.639
my car. On the other end
of the tent, I take the picnic

620
01:06:29.760 --> 01:06:34.519
table and I push it up on
end so the bench is acutely on the

621
01:06:34.559 --> 01:06:40.719
ground. The bench seats on the
ground. I shacked my totes that I

622
01:06:40.880 --> 01:06:45.119
used to store clothes, et cetera. I had plastic Amma pans from you

623
01:06:45.199 --> 01:06:49.760
get the harbor freight. I put
those out there and I get the stacked

624
01:06:49.840 --> 01:06:54.920
up. I have my collassical kitchen
and call the stove out there, so

625
01:06:55.000 --> 01:07:00.840
I have what's called a detection perimeter
all the way around me. I then

626
01:07:01.400 --> 01:07:06.639
take some five pound fishing line.
They go all the way around my camp

627
01:07:06.800 --> 01:07:14.000
area, and I connect it to
what's called a personal alarm. They're pretty

628
01:07:14.480 --> 01:07:19.199
pretty useful, pretty basic pieces of
equipment anywhere can use there's no on off

629
01:07:19.280 --> 01:07:25.400
switch. There's one pin. You
pull the pin and it's a sixty five

630
01:07:25.519 --> 01:07:35.320
seventy decibel alarm. There's no way
to turn it off. Nothing. Well,

631
01:07:35.400 --> 01:07:39.719
you probably take the battery out there
to fill up. Screw dotter take

632
01:07:39.760 --> 01:07:43.440
it apart because the only turned off
put the pin in it. So I

633
01:07:43.519 --> 01:07:45.960
hooked that up to the fifth line. I go okay, I said,

634
01:07:46.199 --> 01:07:50.599
if I hear something approach me,
I'll know where it's at. If they

635
01:07:50.719 --> 01:07:54.599
juggle m pan, I know where
they're there. They touch the table,

636
01:07:54.639 --> 01:07:57.519
I know they're there. If they're
in the bushes, I know they're there.

637
01:07:59.760 --> 01:08:03.360
So nighttime comes, I've made some
dinner, I even made a pot

638
01:08:03.440 --> 01:08:15.840
of coffee, and starting rain like
rain, moderate drizzle occurring. And that's

639
01:08:15.960 --> 01:08:23.239
my very little wind sparkle in my
tent. And on the other side of

640
01:08:23.279 --> 01:08:29.439
my car is a one lane gravel
load. And on the other side of

641
01:08:29.439 --> 01:08:36.399
that gravel load there's a very sleep
steep slope that turns into utility cut out

642
01:08:38.239 --> 01:08:45.399
for these massive power towers. Are
power lane towers are And and I get

643
01:08:45.439 --> 01:08:49.079
in my tent, I mean there
for about a half hour, and I

644
01:08:49.279 --> 01:08:58.000
hear put stuffs on the gravel These
are by petal. These are splot spots

645
01:08:58.039 --> 01:09:01.399
spots flocks. That's a bear.
We had had a bearing camp earlier.

646
01:09:01.479 --> 01:09:06.920
Black bear in camp earlier. We
chased it off quite easily. So one

647
01:09:06.960 --> 01:09:11.640
of my tools is the key bob
for my car. I hit the alarm

648
01:09:12.239 --> 01:09:17.119
light, flash horn sounds, and
I hear the bear running away. No

649
01:09:17.319 --> 01:09:25.359
problem, turned all that off.
Now a couple hours I'm I have my

650
01:09:25.840 --> 01:09:30.079
log book out. I'm running down
everything that's been transpiring, especially being counter

651
01:09:30.199 --> 01:09:33.760
earlier in the day, still excited
about I've never seen a scots look like

652
01:09:34.119 --> 01:09:40.960
a juvenile, probably a teenager person
the less. So I'm detail writing all

653
01:09:41.000 --> 01:09:47.600
that down, and then all of
a sudden, that alarm goes off.

654
01:09:50.520 --> 01:09:56.800
Uh oh uns the top door of
my tent. I look out, I

655
01:09:56.920 --> 01:10:03.199
see nothing, and I go out
to my alarm. There is dangling.

656
01:10:04.239 --> 01:10:09.680
So my thought is is that a
stick must have fell hits the string,

657
01:10:10.399 --> 01:10:14.640
maybe a bird to into it.
Okay, So I hold it up to

658
01:10:14.760 --> 01:10:17.600
the light. I plugged the pin
back in it. I add a little

659
01:10:17.640 --> 01:10:21.159
bit more slacked to the string,
to the fishing line, and I go

660
01:10:21.359 --> 01:10:27.920
back into my tent fin up my
notes. I'm finished up with a cup

661
01:10:27.960 --> 01:10:32.600
of coffee, and now I'm getting
a little bit more worried. I now

662
01:10:32.720 --> 01:10:36.960
have Previously I had taken my rifle
out of my car. I've bought it

663
01:10:38.039 --> 01:10:45.560
into my tent and I have it
resting right next to my cot and I'm

664
01:10:45.600 --> 01:10:56.239
finishing my notes. And all of
a sudden, it's now midnight, twelve

665
01:10:56.359 --> 01:11:01.720
thirteen morning. That alarm goes off
again, and I'm a little bit more

666
01:11:01.760 --> 01:11:08.079
suspect. I'm a little bit more
worried. I stand up. I have

667
01:11:08.199 --> 01:11:12.079
a blue cet already. I grabb
my rifle and I'm about to unzip the

668
01:11:12.159 --> 01:11:18.840
door, and the alarm turned off. That made the hair in the back

669
01:11:18.880 --> 01:11:23.880
of my next stand up. There's
no way to turn it off unless you

670
01:11:23.960 --> 01:11:29.600
put the pin in it. I
carry a Henry forty five to seventy rifle,

671
01:11:29.800 --> 01:11:38.680
especially handmade rounds. I chambered around
di cocted. I said out loud,

672
01:11:39.159 --> 01:11:43.479
I'm armed. I have nothing you
want. You need to leave,

673
01:11:43.520 --> 01:11:47.960
I can. I then zipped the
ten. I did a three sixty stand

674
01:11:48.039 --> 01:11:53.119
in the area. I go look
to where the alarm is, and the

675
01:11:53.199 --> 01:11:58.039
alarm is gone. Because two ends
of the fishing line was spangling in the

676
01:11:58.119 --> 01:12:06.000
breeze. Okay. Now I'm starting
to getting a little worried. Maybe I

677
01:12:06.079 --> 01:12:14.640
had made a bad decision staying there. I get another alarm out. These

678
01:12:14.680 --> 01:12:18.720
are a small alarms, the teaching
alarm, pretty inispster. I put another

679
01:12:18.760 --> 01:12:26.279
one. Now, I bunge you
a little alarm to the tree behind the

680
01:12:26.359 --> 01:12:31.479
car, and I said, now, if something falls whatever, it's bunch

681
01:12:31.520 --> 01:12:36.520
into the tree, I'll hook it
up again. And I'm sort of breathing

682
01:12:36.600 --> 01:12:41.359
heavy. I've drake two cups of
coffee. I'm pretty much wide away,

683
01:12:42.680 --> 01:12:47.399
and I go back into my tap. I sit there for a few moments.

684
01:12:48.239 --> 01:12:51.479
I go through. I'm laid down, so I laid down to my

685
01:12:51.560 --> 01:12:59.880
cot I got the rifle right on
top of my chest and this economics.

686
01:13:00.880 --> 01:13:06.359
I immediately passed out, fell asleep. That shouldn't happen. It did.

687
01:13:09.880 --> 01:13:15.560
Next thing I know, it's about
quarter past seven in the morning. There's

688
01:13:15.600 --> 01:13:18.479
a light rain in my tent.
I can see daylight. When I hear

689
01:13:18.560 --> 01:13:24.600
something moving outside the action zipping door
of my tent. There's something out there.

690
01:13:24.840 --> 01:13:30.079
I hear it moving. Uhh.
I'm in the same position I was

691
01:13:30.359 --> 01:13:33.720
when I lay down. Rife was
right across my chest and set in my

692
01:13:33.800 --> 01:13:38.279
ferry grab it. I stand up, rub my eyes in a moment,

693
01:13:39.359 --> 01:13:43.960
and I go unzip the tent door
and I look outside the tent. There's

694
01:13:44.000 --> 01:13:48.760
a coyote standing on top of the
picnic table that is now back on all

695
01:13:48.840 --> 01:13:56.479
fours. There's a coyote just standing
there staring at me, about five feet

696
01:13:56.520 --> 01:14:01.720
away. I shome away. I
go out of the way. Irons at

697
01:14:01.800 --> 01:14:06.960
the tent. I go out and
I'm looking around and the toads that I

698
01:14:08.039 --> 01:14:14.600
have stacked up the amalpans I have
stacked up as a detection peme, they

699
01:14:14.640 --> 01:14:24.880
were all now disheveled around the campsite. I had amopans stacked in three rows

700
01:14:24.920 --> 01:14:28.600
of three. The toads were in
three rows of four, and they were

701
01:14:28.640 --> 01:14:34.159
all laying individually around me. My
personal alarm was still attached to the tree.

702
01:14:35.279 --> 01:14:40.079
The fish and string had been broken. Half had been cut or broken.

703
01:14:44.119 --> 01:14:46.479
I'm looking around trying to make sense
of what's going on now, not

704
01:14:46.640 --> 01:14:50.800
only kind of that drusally misty stuff, but it's also fog is set in.

705
01:14:51.560 --> 01:14:57.239
You can't see any more than thirty
forty feet in this fog. Big

706
01:14:57.319 --> 01:15:17.079
so society will be right back after
these messages, h I fire up the

707
01:15:17.159 --> 01:15:21.880
Coleman stove, I start water for
coffee, and the first thing I do

708
01:15:23.000 --> 01:15:26.840
is I full out my right Eurraine
book in my little yellow pan, and

709
01:15:26.920 --> 01:15:30.840
I got start writing down all the
events that have been a purry. I

710
01:15:30.039 --> 01:15:35.920
want to keep track of what's happening, and so as I'm doing that,

711
01:15:36.319 --> 01:15:42.920
coffee is about reading done Perkin.
Not here. Wow, this tree break

712
01:15:43.079 --> 01:15:47.600
I've ever heard of my experience.
And it's happened over to where the rental

713
01:15:47.680 --> 01:15:53.079
tent is. Well, I can't
see it because of the dense fog.

714
01:15:54.560 --> 01:15:59.920
Okay, I set my notebook down
and my pen down a side and picnic

715
01:16:00.039 --> 01:16:05.159
table. I've round my rifle and
I go over there to see make sure

716
01:16:05.319 --> 01:16:10.760
no one's messing with that tent,
and get over there. In this huge

717
01:16:10.840 --> 01:16:15.720
wind, maybe five and a half
sixties in diameter, broke cleanly off the

718
01:16:15.800 --> 01:16:23.880
side of a tree six seven feet
up a year. At that point,

719
01:16:25.479 --> 01:16:29.680
I said to myself, why do
I feel like I'm walking into an ambush

720
01:16:30.359 --> 01:16:34.279
or a trap or something. That's
what I feel like. I immediately did

721
01:16:34.399 --> 01:16:43.079
three sixties skin everything around me.
I've chambered around in my rifle and I'm

722
01:16:43.159 --> 01:16:47.239
looking around, going okay, you've
got me. That's what I'm thinking in

723
01:16:47.319 --> 01:16:56.079
my head. I hear the coyotes
further away, but nothing near me.

724
01:16:57.239 --> 01:17:00.840
I go walking back from my tent. I turned to walk back onto the

725
01:17:00.880 --> 01:17:03.000
coffee pop so I can finish perking. I sit down in my chair.

726
01:17:03.000 --> 01:17:08.479
I grab my notebook. Damn,
I lost my pen. I dropped it

727
01:17:08.560 --> 01:17:14.239
somewhere. I think, I don't
know. Okay, So I've been on

728
01:17:14.319 --> 01:17:16.439
the pan. I finished writing down
my notes, everything that's happened, and

729
01:17:16.560 --> 01:17:24.319
my coffee at breakfast A pack up
camp that's now about nine thirty quarter ten.

730
01:17:25.039 --> 01:17:29.840
Bog is lifted and Son's trying to
come out and missed the stock.

731
01:17:30.680 --> 01:17:34.159
I get everything I wanted in the
car except my wagon, which normally I

732
01:17:34.199 --> 01:17:41.760
turn upside down and bunch you to
the roof rack. So I'm sitting there.

733
01:17:41.800 --> 01:17:45.199
You know what, that red boat
is going to really help me.

734
01:17:45.359 --> 01:17:49.600
So I'm going through a different expedition
from here. I want I want that

735
01:17:49.720 --> 01:17:55.079
red oak. So I go over
there to that fire ring, that picnic

736
01:17:55.159 --> 01:17:59.000
table to get the risk of that
red oak. And as I approach our

737
01:17:59.039 --> 01:18:06.000
picnic table, there's my yellow pin. I had been intense the squatches,

738
01:18:06.399 --> 01:18:12.199
the intensely pulled me out of my
pants. They tricked me and get me

739
01:18:12.239 --> 01:18:18.600
out of my hands, and they
took that yellow pin. At that point,

740
01:18:18.640 --> 01:18:26.279
as I screen the red oak,
I turned around, went back.

741
01:18:26.479 --> 01:18:29.920
Were ragging up on the top.
Bungee it quickly and I go to open

742
01:18:30.039 --> 01:18:34.319
up my driver's door. There's two
handprints on my driver's door that was not

743
01:18:34.479 --> 01:18:42.079
there when I was packing my ear. I looked at that, hit the

744
01:18:42.159 --> 01:18:45.399
button unlocked, set the rifle in
the seat next to me, got in

745
01:18:45.439 --> 01:18:49.840
the car and locked it and spun
out of there. I got to the

746
01:18:49.920 --> 01:18:53.800
gate, I left the team the
locked left, the gate opened, and

747
01:18:53.920 --> 01:18:59.199
went three miles down the road.
Contacted the senior coordinator and said, every

748
01:18:59.319 --> 01:19:02.840
the tense game. Everything's fine,
but I'm leaving to go home. I

749
01:19:02.920 --> 01:19:13.319
don't feel safe. I become in
danger. A few months after that,

750
01:19:14.079 --> 01:19:18.600
I meet up with the same coordinator, different expedition, and she asked me

751
01:19:18.680 --> 01:19:24.560
to relate this encounter with the rest
of the group. I do, and

752
01:19:24.720 --> 01:19:28.840
she goes, well, that's something
to add to that. That weekend,

753
01:19:29.319 --> 01:19:36.960
that Saturday night, the Sheriff's department
in the Rangers got called numerous times because

754
01:19:38.039 --> 01:19:44.479
of a very very tall, dark
figure looking the windows, trying to open

755
01:19:44.600 --> 01:19:53.119
cars, trying to and hitting on
the side of rbs. Curious anyhow,

756
01:19:55.039 --> 01:20:03.600
I get home and I'm still a
little shrieking by watch had occurred. I'm

757
01:20:03.720 --> 01:20:08.880
sort of questioning, maybe I should
have left in my field, partner left,

758
01:20:10.279 --> 01:20:16.560
Maybe I should have insisted on other
more people staying there. I'm just

759
01:20:16.680 --> 01:20:24.680
kind of second guessing myself. Uh. That's when the third night I was

760
01:20:24.760 --> 01:20:28.760
hold was the first time I saw
a dark shadow figure in my home,

761
01:20:30.159 --> 01:20:38.680
which I thought may have been a
hitactor martial. Is that Holy mackerel,

762
01:20:38.760 --> 01:20:45.399
that's I can't even breathe after that. That's that's probably I would say.

763
01:20:45.880 --> 01:20:51.840
I'm gonna say top intense story I've
heard in years that is wild, and

764
01:20:51.920 --> 01:20:59.880
that's in Tennessee somewhere. That's the
whole My goodness. You know the marine

765
01:21:00.159 --> 01:21:03.520
he tells me other one and I'm
in a standing fight. I know we've

766
01:21:03.560 --> 01:21:09.079
all heard in the flight or fight, right, maybe a lot of those

767
01:21:09.800 --> 01:21:13.600
not so smart people. But I
don't go along with the flight. I

768
01:21:13.760 --> 01:21:17.880
stay in front and uh I,
like I said, I even have specially

769
01:21:17.960 --> 01:21:27.960
crafted inition me the chief in my
rifle just in case. And that's the

770
01:21:28.039 --> 01:21:34.079
first and many time I've ever second
guessed myself. Wow, thank you so

771
01:21:34.279 --> 01:21:40.600
much for chatting tonight. This has
been uh, this has been wild.

772
01:21:40.680 --> 01:21:45.119
And I know we had talked before
about you've had other stuff happen too,

773
01:21:45.920 --> 01:21:51.319
and sometimes what I will do is
I have kind of like a special after

774
01:21:51.479 --> 01:21:59.920
show for Patreon members and YouTube members
and it's it's stuff that's not necessarily big

775
01:22:00.039 --> 01:22:04.880
Foot related, but you've also had
some other weird things happen. And would

776
01:22:04.920 --> 01:22:09.359
you still be up for for sticking
around a little bit for the members to

777
01:22:10.319 --> 01:22:15.960
about that again? The mission of
the d f r OS data gathered data

778
01:22:15.560 --> 01:22:24.279
and public public you know, interaction, but also public education. And granted

779
01:22:24.760 --> 01:22:30.479
the organization doesn't really push out the
paranormal stuff, but things do happen in

780
01:22:30.560 --> 01:22:35.079
that society. I had yet to
explain them. So yeah, I'd be

781
01:22:35.199 --> 01:22:39.640
more happy to show absolutely. Well, well, thank you. Before we

782
01:22:39.760 --> 01:22:44.000
go though, in the main episode, can you take a minute how can

783
01:22:44.079 --> 01:22:46.479
people find out more about the b
f r OH try to get set up

784
01:22:46.520 --> 01:22:53.399
with their own expedition things. Yeah, we have a great website uh b

785
01:22:53.600 --> 01:23:00.000
f r O dot org uh or
b f r O dot this. Google

786
01:23:00.159 --> 01:23:05.359
it and you will see we have
multiple expeditions go out the country that are

787
01:23:05.520 --> 01:23:15.800
guided by extremely experienced people that everything
is safely done and no one goes out

788
01:23:15.840 --> 01:23:23.439
by them settles or is are left
alone or anything like that. And there's

789
01:23:23.680 --> 01:23:27.399
all over the country, all over
the country, from New York to Washington,

790
01:23:27.439 --> 01:23:30.479
in California, areas on of Texas, Florida, you name it.

791
01:23:30.920 --> 01:23:34.600
Just going that website, think kind
of state icon. You'll see it listed

792
01:23:34.720 --> 01:23:41.319
right there, and just follow the
steps. But send an inquiry and you're

793
01:23:41.399 --> 01:23:46.439
interested and and then follow up and
go from there. You will not regret

794
01:23:46.520 --> 01:23:53.399
it. You will not regret it. I have made friends on those expeditions

795
01:23:53.520 --> 01:23:59.279
now that I consider them life oile
friends that you get out on the trail

796
01:23:59.359 --> 01:24:04.600
with them, you learn a lot
about someone who when something is potentially scary

797
01:24:04.800 --> 01:24:10.359
happening and they're right next to you, you learn a lot about a person

798
01:24:11.840 --> 01:24:15.000
and they look at you and you
look at them, and they go to

799
01:24:15.159 --> 01:24:20.520
be run Nawle's stay and check it
out, right and they do they do

800
01:24:20.840 --> 01:24:25.920
so anyhow, just go to the
website, check it out. There's a

801
01:24:26.159 --> 01:24:30.039
vast amount of information there. There
are audio recordings or history, there are

802
01:24:30.159 --> 01:24:35.159
news articles for you to click on
it's a very well maintained website, and

803
01:24:35.600 --> 01:24:40.680
any given time they can send messages
to you, you can relate them to

804
01:24:40.840 --> 01:24:45.960
me. I'll answer whatever I can
at any time as an ambassador. And

805
01:24:46.079 --> 01:24:49.560
then once you make contact with the
VFO, you're welcome, asked all the

806
01:24:49.680 --> 01:24:56.159
questions you want of staff whom you
need along the way. That's awesome again,

807
01:24:56.279 --> 01:25:00.319
Marsha, thank you for chatting and
for sharing what you've experienced over the

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years. And members don't go anywhere. You want to hit the site to

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get the after show to find out
what Marcia has experienced outside the realm of

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Bigfoot. So thank you, Marsha. If you'd like to hear more,

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there is an extra hour long segment
from Marsha where she stays on for the

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Strange Days portion of big Foot Society. That's a special show that I sometimes

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do for the Patreon members and YouTube
channel members and Bigfoot Posse tier and above.

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Pretty much what happened is after Marcia
got home from this experience that you

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just heard about, she started to
experience some wild things at her house that

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have to do with paranormal subjects.
It gets wild. Marcia also shares other

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cryptigs she's had encounters with and a
very interesting bigfoot contact method that cannot be

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recommended. You can hear the Strange
Days portion of the show by becoming a

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Patreon member at patreon dot com,
forward slash the big for Society, or

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hit the join button on the YouTube
channel. Thanks and we'll see you next time.