Man Sees UFO Light at Mount Erie and Realizes Bigfoot Is Watching

0:00 You're listening to BIGFA Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron. In this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to bring you first hand encounters from people who say they've seen something impossible. From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers to quiet farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere, and each one leaves us with more questions than answers. These are the voices of the people who've lived it. To settle in, because today you'll hear another account that just might change the way you see the woods forever. So stay with us, all right, BIGFA Society, You've get the privilege of talking to Will today. Will is a YouTube listener that reached out to me after hearing a few episodes of the show, wanting to share some interesting things that have happened to him over the years. So welcome to the show.

0:46 Will. How are you doing today, sir? Good? How are you doing great? It's actually a pretty nice day out here in Iowa. Can't complain sixty five degrees in November? Who knew? Yeah? Wow, We'll take it for now. I'm calling you from Washington State. I'm actually at Mount Eriie right now. Oh, okay, awesome. A big fan of the Pacific Northwest, as you may know from listening to the show a bit. But will, I'm excited to get you on the program. I know a little bit about what we're talking about. But you were actually telling me before the show started that you have a little bit of groundwork to lay before we get into it, maybe about how you were listening to the show and things of that nature.

1:33 Oh yeah. Initially, when I found your show, I often listened to many different things as I'm going to sleep, and I stumbled into a couple of your interviews and really liked them. But my journey with Bigfoot began in nineteen ninety nine. I was a seventies child, but when I became aware of some other paranormal things around nineteen ninety nine, As you may well know, a lot of these people or whatever don't have there are circle shrinks between family and friends, and especially when it comes to anything metaphysical. But I was starting to work as a healer with energy healing that I had been introduced to by a sister of mine, and I went out in the beginning as not quite an atheist, to debunk it.

2:20 And I quickly learned otherwise. But in that journey, someone told me that, oh, because I really didn't have contact with a lot of people in this field. I started listening to Art Bell and I'm sorry, I'm not familiar with your show because I haven't heard that many episodes, but I'm presuming you know who that is or. One hundred percent, yes, I definitely know who Art Bell is. He is, you would say without him, I don't think any of us that are doing these shows would really be here exactly. So when I became acclimated to his material, the guests were so numerous that the topics were so vast that it just became the more you learned, the less you knew.

3:05 And Bigfoot was on his program throughout different guests and stuff. But I never really was heavily into it, but I would listen to those shows. And I was born and raised in Chicago near O'Hare Airport, so growing up we weren't really in the woods, say, but I never really I've heard a big foot. I didn't really believe the other way. And I was always a touch kind of guy. You got to prove it to me what you had got. But when I started delving deep into our bell show with different guests. One bigfoot show in particular kind of stuck with me. And I don't even think the guest was initially about bigfoots, but it was a woman who, as a young girl, was sleeping over at her grandmother's house and she looked out the window and they were in some rule setting, and she saw her grandmother at the back foot shed. It was winter and she was giving sasquatch salmon and other food and a change of life.

4:06 She was just like, what's going on? But in my mind I couldn't fathom that because I didn't really know anything about bigfoot, is that even. Near any reality? So I never really delve deep. And after hearing your show, So this is nineteen ninety nine, and over the years, I've heard so many different shows, and things of synchronicity and coincidence just never ceased to amaze me. But some of your guests started bringing things up that really got me to not only dig deeper, but I was like, oh, I should go on a show and share a story or two. And it just morphed the more I listened to things that related to things that happened to me that I didn't even know were connected to Sasquatch. So I was calling you from Mount Eerie and most recently I had heard I forgot the gentleman his name, but real interesting guy.

5:02 But he talked about bird art. Owls calls and that the difference between the regular alcohol that we know, but without a tale. He was saying, that's a bigfoot, and so I thought that was really interesting. And I was up here in Mount Arie with a friend of mine, and as soon as I got done relaying this suformation, we started hearing owl caols without a tail, and it was just like, yeah, it's just one of those moments. It's just because we're all used to hearing the owls here and it's bizarre. But I think one thing that really triggered me that was.

5:45 I had a friend of mine who was also experiencing in nineteen ninety nine a metaphysical awakening and looking at all these art Belt topics, and we spent a lot of time outside under the stars, if possible, talking about these things and whatever. But we Chicago is just known for overcast and when you only have a weekend to get out, you're going to pick them wisely with good weather and clear skies and especially if you're the stargazing, you're not going to go out of your way to waste your time. My friend and I drove from northern Chicago to somewhere in Madison, not in the city. We found a campsite and he had recently started a new relationship at his work with a woman, and we were joking about, if you're familiar with the show Barney Fife whatever, that show is the NBA different show, but this woman was really infatuated with him, and he's the bad way.

6:43 What it really wasn't like, Oh, you're so strong, you're so brave. And this turned into him and I at the campsite, you're a nice fire going on and on about oh, you're not afraid of anything, are you, and. Just laughing, and right at maybe. A minute into this where we're just laughing hysterically, we're behind this pictic bench and there's a fire pit going a tremendous just the loudest crash of like I can't even say it was a tree, but it sounded like huge. There weren't branches breaking or anything. It was just such a massive object of whatever was slamming into the ground nearby, like right behind us, and we both jumped like a bunch of scared little girls, practically knocking each other over to get over the picnic bench to get away.

7:37 And it was one of these moments where here we are saying, oh, yeah, you're not scared of anything, and realizing that there might be an understanding here with the Sasquatch of having a sense of humor or a psychic connection or a playfulness. But that was it was terrifying for two seconds. So we were like, oh my gosh, we. Recover and fires going in. One of the things that triggered this was over the past I don't know how many years I bought one of his books. So I started listening to David Missing four one one pilates and some of the things he would say about his cases where weather would come in unexpectedly snow or rain or whatever, and it would hamper any kind of efforts. And so as soon as this happened by the fire, we were just standing there a little stunned, and because obviously nothing's around, and you just had this tremendous noise, and all of a sudden it started to rain like buckets, just fat downpour, hard rain.

8:41 And so I mentioned earlier we drove all the way up into Wisconsin for a clear night under the stars. We weren't about to go anywhere. If there was any chance of rain, and all of a sudden, we're in this monsoon and we had to get into the vehicle and the fire we had was small, but it was intense and we literally had to jump out of the and throw more firewood on it to keep it going, and it almost put it out, but it lasted for a good little bit and then it was gone. So at that time, I didn't even think that was strange. But when other people started talking about like the silence or the deafening quiet, no bugs, no birds, no wind. No nothing, it is a very eerie thing. Not scary, but it's just odd. We've experienced that, but.

9:30 We were never really like, oh, that was a big but we never even were thinking that at the time, the silence experiences that people have. I've been hiking with my family in Oregon and seeing some different waterfalls and stuff, and one time I had to run back to the car to get something and I would catch up to them, and about halfway back, I just decided to sit. I had but I needed and I was going to catch up to them, and I was sitting there and it's just this deafening silence. Illness was just palpable. It was just bizarre. But I ended up getting out. Of the just moving and nothing happened with that. But there is a certain type of energy to that, almost like a blurrydess that's unexplainable. But I didn't think of that at the time until I heard other people talk about that. Running into your show and hearing these people talk freely has really opened up an area of research in my life that I never really kept up with or thought I would get into. And I moved to Washington State about twenty twelve, but I love it here is It's truly a squash country.

10:37 It's unbelievable. But I'm going to get the area wrong on this. I was camping with a friend near It's about five and twenty I believe, running south of the Scadget River, but there's a series of normal roads that follow the river and then go off into some logging roads up there. And I was there. The elevation was not high, it was probably like eight hundred nine hundred feet, but. When I finally got to the campsite, they brought me to. It was overlooking the valley below, and you could see cars in the tiny distance and across the valley on the other side. It was just amazing view. The person I was with was not into bigfoot or metaphysical things or whatever, so I never really brought that kind of stuff up. And I've noticed this pattern where if someone you're with is not into that or psychologically prepared for that, I typically don't see anything. But since nineteen ninety nine up until whatever, most recently, I have had multiple visual experiences with UFOs that were varied in different ways. And your last guest when he was talking about dark matter, really struck home on this. The person I was with, it was around midnight. I'm a normal night, I'll look at the stars all night. They went to bed, so about one am or whatever, I am standing by myself there and matched the fire and there was this

12:10 ball of light coming over the towards me from the east. And this is hard for me to articulate, but it's when you see a normal plane in the disenter a white light that's moving, you can tell that it's very far away. This one I could tell it was far away, but all of a sudden. It was almost like stretching towards me and becoming a lot closer than it was. It was almost like it sucked into a pattern that was disturbing, Like you can see this thing coming in and it's obviously moving in a strange manner. And it was a ball of white light and it was low, and I'm not used to seeing things that low, and it was the light coming off was in the shape of a Mercedes symbol, and so you have all the points on it, nice and sharp, and it's white, and then the tips were all blue.

13:11 And then it got lower and lower, and probably with the good nut wrist rocket, I could have hit the sing with a rock and as it before it passed over me, the Mercedes symbols and the spikes of light started undulating like the s curb an octopus, waving back up and down like a wave, all of them. And I've never seen light do that before. So that was a bizarre moment of this blue energy coming off these spikes that was just like I don't even know what I'm looking at here to that left, and then across the valley, not even this is all Within fifteen minutes, I see a ball of light the tree line where when we got there it was daytime.

14:03 I could see into that area. It was all forested. There's no logging, roads or anything back there. And this sphere of light, it wasn't quite white, it was a couple of different colors, but it was moving in and out of the trees and then above the trees, and then it was clearly not supposed to be there. It is really bizarre, and so at that time. It was an interesting spreare. I didn't even bring it up to the person the next day. I don't want to freak them out or anything. I personally believe that Sasquatch aren't real, and that they are intelligent beings and they are race derived from they're not wild animals. But some of your guests were talking about psychic connections, like once this encounter happens, they start having encounters sometimes at their home very far away.

14:57 I've never personally had. Something like that in my house or anything thing, but the energy level in the psychic thing is a strange one. I've never felt threatened by a big foot, but I was in Colorado in the Rocky mountains, and I was by myself, and I was there for a UFC conference I was working at. But I went up by myself into the mountains and I was armed, so I wasn't all that nervous. And there was got up into an opening where. Cars could move and traverse and turn around off of the switchback of this elevated area. It was once again middle of the night. It's pitch black, but it's dead still still.

15:39 And just studying that hair on the back of your neck like something's watching you. And I didn't feel like dread or in danger, but it was definitely very off putting, and looking back on that now, at the time, I didn't know that. I just thought it was anguish and telling you get out of there. I do believe that incidence was related where they were there and they did see me or whatever. But there is definitely something with the term infrasound or whatever the deep sounds like that tigers elephants can do and everything. There is a pattern there that that I had not realized and that I have encountered that where there is a vibration to the air and almost like a blurriness like there was another time I was in Colorado, southern south of Denver, and it was the weather was a little cold.

16:31 It was off season. But the same guy. We went south to go to a camping spot on our way somewhere. But we got to this camp set out the middle of nowhere, this area, and it was technically closed, and we drove all this way and we got camping gear and we're not going back to any town, so we just moved our way in there with our vehicles and set up for the night with a fire and had a couple of drinks. And he was a heart alcohol drink. He liked a black her Scotch or whatever. And we're sitting there having enough fire and we're up on a hillside and that energy that there was no sound. It was just an energy that started it in dating the area. And it wasn't negative. It was just there, and all of a sudden, there was this major cold snap, I mean like an unbearable cold snap. And weather can always change in the mountains and drop of a hat, but uh, we're prepared for this stuff. But it was like we had a roaring fire and our food and their drinks out there, but we actually had to retreat to the car, turn on the heat, and I had my dog with me at the time, and I just remember like, wow, this weather came out of nowhere and it was like a dangerous cold, and we spent some time in the car heating up, and there was looking outside the car there was enough moonlight or whatever to see trees and our fire up in the campsite and stuff,

18:02 and there was a certain, like I said, a blurriness and energy to almost surreal as we were sitting in the car, and we both didn't really realize what we were dealing with. It was so cold. But they went half a while and there was some movement in the trees that I don't personally believe. It wasn't the typical big fifteen foot individual, but there was some peaking going on of maybe a smaller one. We're out there and you're like, oh, my eyes are going to play tricks at dark whatever. But we ended up getting out of the car if we warmed up a little bit. We went back up to the campsite with the fire was still going, and his hard alcohol drink had frozen in its glass and this guy doesn't pour them light. It's like, so it is sitting next to a fire and a cup holder in a chair and this drink was frozen solid, Like, wow, that's a little unusual.

19:00 So at that time him and I did not think that was a big foot by any means. But I was just putting that together years later that we had these experiences. There's another area northern Washington, I want to say, in Linden or whatever. But when you're headed east into the mountains there there's some logging roads. I remember, I think it was called Paradise Valley Road, and it could get treacherous. You can't keep driving around there in a Honda or anything. But once again, I'm going up there and for the night and relatively low elevation, getting settled. And I had not discussed the person I was.

19:41 I wasn't a metaphysical person, so it was I wasn't going to be bringing up anything scary to them or whatever. But around midnight one o'clock, it was very dark and once again very quiet, and there was all of a sudden, these birds like started chirping and like in multiple areas to our left, to our right, and further back and forth. And I'm a bird expert, but I typically don't hear a lot of birds at night. And the strange part about it, it was multiple species of birds, like it was an unusual call that you know, I'm used to the birds I hear, but I don't know the names of them or anything.

20:21 But it was very bizarre. It was like multiple species of birds taking turns talking in that manner, going back and forth. And at that time I was aware of them imitating other animals or birds, and I didn't say anything. And they even said like, oh, that's very I usually don't hear birds, and I'm like, yeah, that's pretty weird. But like I said, there's lots of areas to this that remain elusive, even though you're right there and you didn't even know what you were semi dealing with. I think that I meant to write down your guess about the dark matter, but he was talking about the blue shift and it's an invisible spectrum. I do believe there's, Yeah, that is definitely a play here where somehow they're manipulating energy and the immediate space in a way where it is blurring dimensions or it's rubbing.

21:15 It's hard to explain. It's a fascinating theory. In the individual that we're talking about, Doctor Simon him that book that he's written, the one that we discussed dark matter monsters is really worth a read if anyone is interested by what's being brought up by Will right now. It really puts some good theories out there and puts a whole different look to the whole hitchhiker phenomenon, but looks at it a different way. The one thing that really intrigued me about him is I bumped into that interview unexpectedly and his ability to I can say after many years followed our bell from the late now es into his retirements and the people that were brought together under that umbrella led to so much knowledge in different areas that you can spend a lifetime looking at all these things. But he probably in a long time introduced me to something that I was not exactly familiar with and wanted to know more.

22:22 Yeah, fascinating fellow and very sharp. You've brought up something a few times which you mentioned that if the person you're with is not prepared, then you're not going to have a bigfoot sighting. Can you go into that maybe a little bit more like what does one have to do to be prepared in order to usually have sighting? Oh boy, that was a long process for me and my friend that went through that together over the years of listening to our bell and sometimes be careful what you asked for because you're going to find out. So him and I would share these experiences, and we were initially like, there are these UFOs, where are these things? And we would actively try to see these different things.

23:06 I don't know what the tie is, but when I can't even remember when, but we started seeing UFOs together, when we would take the time to sit and look. And then sometimes there would be people with us who, like I said, may psychologically not be strong enough for that or it's not their deal. They would not appear I wouldn't and then as soon as they would go, they're all over the place. But I've also had a two where I have seen anomalous things moving in the sky and tried to point it out to somebody and they just could not see it, Like there was. Yes, like no, I. Can't see what you're talking about, so I quickly shut up, Like learning my lesson on that one. There is a tie between these balls of light and Bigfoot, and I don't know what that is, but I guess since I didn't live in Washington.

24:03 For so long. When I first moved out here and even started thinking about Bigfoot again. I always I didn't avoid the negative stories, but there's a lot of garbage out there too, and the sincerity of some of these people's testimonies over the years. You can only look at so much, and so I've always aired on the side just like people. There's good people and there's bad people. And I'm sure there's good jazz quatch and maybe not so nice and hopefully I think one of the we talked about healing energy and different healing instances with Bigfoot and other people and their injuries. I've often wondered, when I look back on some of these weird energy experiences or whatever, I never felt threatened. I never might have felt a little uneasy or something, but I was never felt like I was in danger, because I do believe they can look at a person's heart, their demeanor of who they are. The person here, like hunters have a lot of problems. They either get chased out or some rocks at them or scaring them or whatever. So I don't know what that is, so that defending a territory or whatever, but it seems to skip people like for whatever reason, they had semi large rocks and boulders or small rocks, and he's encouraged to leave. I've never felt like that I fit into that category of being chased out of an area or scared.

25:34 Sure, do you think do you think it has something to do with the I guess a few times on the show has been brought up like there's maybe a certain frequency that you have to be operating at, or the intention. Of yes, exactly, I'm sorry I was drifting there. These topics just go so many different directions, but I've been working. I started working as a healer in ninety nine and being raised in. Chicago by a you know, a Christian family, typical normal holiday Catholics. I was the atheist of the family. I never bought into it. It just wasn't for me. And I don't have any answers, but I knew I just was not comfortable with the religion. So they always knew me as a stout skeptic on anything. Of course, when I'm thirty seven years old and say, oh, by the way, I'm going to start doing healings for people and we're going to designer doing but they don't know what to think of that. And your friends and your family circle shrinks, but the people who take the healing journey, and I found most who get to that vibrational rate of working on people and having serious work done, you can't associate with. It's not that you don't have anything in common anymore, but it's your vibrational rate. The little thing is come unimportant anymore. I stopped watching TV. I didn't like sports anymore. I always really was into sports

27:07 to begin with. But the material things become far less important, and it's more of that frequency and that vibration of existing in something that has a tail of the divine that you can't quite put your finger on. That turns your life into an experience that you're pursuing that piece and helping other people. And the more you would get out of your own way and just allow people to be brought to you instead of chasing it, you start getting these strangers coming to you and public it standing in line and it's early. No. My arm really hurts. I don't know why I'm telling you this, but my arm really hurts. People are putting your way when you put yourself out to be in service of others, and I've always tried to abide by that and it has led to some extraordinary healing work that I was taught by many different logalities, some very heavy hit people that weren't when I initially found out about this. People want hundreds of dollars to take their seminar and blah blah blah and raaking master this and panic healing. And I was certified through Barnes Hospital in Saint Louis for their Healing Touch program, and meeting all these people trying to become practitioners was an interesting thing in itself.

28:28 I thought there would be more of a united front, but it turned out to be the opposite. A lot of ego. And I think once healers get to that frequency where you're able to jog into where you're vibrating at such a rate and then you're passing that vibration along to somebody else, it is no longer you're doing. You're just a conduit. And it's simple. It's do the work and put the energy and be the condoing for that energy. And I think too many people with many different modalities of healing get stuck on one thing where they're into product anailing or iraqi or this or that. And I always pride to myself on just generating the energy and having results, Like I would never encourage somebody to see me multiple times if I didn't help them in the first or second time, and if I did, there better be big improvements in there. Sure industry is suffering from people's I don't know, greed or ego or whatever.

29:34 But everyone's got a slice of the puzzle. What are you going to do with it? With honor? And it's a strange thing, and I think that's this is my own personal belief. I don't know if it's true or not, but when I've been in areas where sasquatch might be or not, or these vibrational rates, I do think they recognize that in the person that they're looking at, since they deal with interdimensional energies stuff like that. I do, because there. Seems to be those random negative things for some people and then others not. And I never really wanted like, oh, they would never do that. I've had it come up a few times where individuals have been either researching or just in areas that are really active with bigfoot activity, and then they end up having some physical ailment actually healed either out there or at their house a day or two later, things start to happen in your house. Do you have any thoughts about that? Do you think there could be some connection?

30:39 Absolutely, depending on the individual like their own experience. But working with healing energy is such an unusual thing. And that's why your last guest, he has a lot of lead ins to where this energy is and where it's coming from and how to observe it. It's earlier the hitchhiker effect, right, like the like if I'm if. I'm doing a lot of healings in one day. My energies on a real high where psychic ability just all types of just healing your g is very high. You tend to have very strange experiences just because you're dwelling within that practice of staying in that vibrational rate for your work. That's where the rubber meets the world.

31:28 That's where I think a lot of people get lost. They'll do the hand waves and the crystal and this and that, and if they do this, it's all by the book. It's like the person might be helped and then I mean not, but it's you're either pedaling or you're not pedaling. I like to say you can have all the certificates of the friend you want. But at the end of the day, are you getting results? And more often than not, I've seen. People that have been with me who I do not know, and then they maybe I did a healing for even just spending time together. It's not necessarily. I was taught to do a certain form of healing scans where people are standing and then you move it from there. But even as an introductory for a new client to come in and explain what they're experiencing, what's oot blah blah blah, the subconscious allowance or given the waiver that they're open to this energy, they want to know more than they want.

32:27 To be healed. That trickle charge starts going right away because there's consent, and where all of a sudden they start yawning and it's like. Oh, I was fine just a minute ago, and I know, like pass out. It's literally because their electrical system is resetting itself and they're trying to heal and their body's hol like you need to go sleep to heal yourself. As a matter of fact, I always tell clients that go home. All I ask is hit sleep as soon as possible. I don't care if it's a ten minute nap or an hour for the rest of the night, but until you go home. I feel this. It's like a trickle charge that goes with them, and I can feel when it stops. And people often go home and now they're experiencing a higher vibrational rate that is like a false sense of strength or security, whether they're like, oh, I'm want to start vacuming or talking to my friends or doing all this stuff where they're really just has this temporary raise to their vibrational rate where they're not as strong as they think they are and until they go to sleep and enter that healing field.

33:38 It's a thing. But I've also seen so with this that hang, I'm sorry, what do you call it? The pitchucker effect, where people within this vibration experience a heightened intuition all types of things. Where they were never really in that realm, They didn't. Have metaphocalhysical experiences, and all of a sudden they know when people are calling, or different things, or what people are thinking, all types of spontaneous abilities that I think there are always there, but it's when you raise your vibration that you start accessing some of these areas that are pretty vast. It's strange, but I do think that Sasquatch has a tie into that. They definitely are in the resonance, and I do believe that they are kind enough to do something like that for somebody because they can see their hearts. Yeah.

34:34 Absolutely, I've been in situations like you mentioned earlier, where you're in the same era. So I'm in a certain area in Oregon, certain people are there, nothing happens. Those people are then out of the equation and other people are there and it goes back. It really does skate down to the type of person you have with you. It does. Half the time just bring it up because I don't want it to feel bad, like, oh, what do you means that? But it's a pattern that you see over and over again. It's just a lot of the people that come to me for healings are normal everyday people that'll come where their need has been bothering them for years.

35:16 They have some surgeries or whatever, and it's. They've exhausted everything and somebody said, oh, you should go see this guy. Most of the people that encounter me is like, yeah, they do have a sore knee, but there's a much deeper, important reason why they're coming to me, and it is that vibrational rate that they have. It's it's kind of like they're behind, should be far more ahead within themselves or who they are and aware of their own spirituality. And I guess that's been a niche for me is where I don't I say Archie Bunkers are my best clients because you get that guy going like this guy right, Yeah, And I had the ability to pass the vibration along to people where you don't need to pay me three hundred dollars for a weekend seminar, but hey, at about twenty to forty minutes, I can show you this energy and yourself and others and how you can strengthen it and flex it and keep seeing it.

36:18 Everybody can do it. It's just a matter of raising the vibration after where they can see it and then they can take it from there. And I'm a big I'm a big proponent of that. And that's where the real juice of the job came in. It was like I initially my sister who turned me onto this was a professional reader, and so initially I was like, yeah, YouTube readings, that's great. We could still do Thanksgiving but you're a little And so she taught me how to do the readings and I did them and yeah, there, I am kicking myself with a face like there's something here. So I pursued that. And initially, when the healing was called I put in front of you to do, I rejected it.

36:58 I think, oh, well, you own sick people. This is way more fun doing readings and meeting people and socializing and blah blah blah. But once I got into the healing work and saw what that could do to somebody's life in a matter of moments, it was like, hands down, my true passion. You get somebody who comes in and can't even walk, and then they're walking out of your house with a gate and they have walked like that in four years, and they're seeing energy. And that's the real juice of the job, of seeing people moving forward like that. Absolutely, and they do come back. And sometimes I've had people come back to me years later that I never knew them or they didn't know where I was, and like I've worked with, I did that and they it sent them out a trajectory that really changed their life.

37:46 And I'm really proud of that. It's just like, you do that anonymously enough times and you'll make a difference. Yea. It is cool when you find what it is that you're supposed to do and things start to click and you're like, oh, making a difference in the world. Now, this actually does happen. It's not just the movies. Yeah, there's a something I want to bring up and get your take on, just because it's a pattern that's brought up in the community a lot, and it's something I'm still trying to figure out and just see if you have any thoughts about it. On the one, there's people that say that, yes, okay, I was out in the woods in a bigfoot area and I got healed. My leg is better, my back is better. However, there are people where they have noticed that there seems to be like individuals that have spent a long time researching in areas that have big foot activity and then they end up coming down with things like let's say cancer or really bad health related issues. Do you think then that then this can have a negative way or could that just be completely unrelated and maybe just a coincidence.

38:56 As far as the negative especially, I'm always legging to cut to the bone and most of the time that people will come to be for healing and they have some serious problems. It's actually emotional based or a diet. It's very simple, like you've poisoned yourself mentally or physically with food for twenty years. Of course something is going to fail, but they don't want to hear the real answer. They want to kill or something. But when it comes to that, there's so many different people. You can see examples of this where they come into contact with different craft or whatever and they don't even touch it. They get close and they get sick.

39:38 I don't know, like that guy in Brazil when he carried that thing to a hospital, he had an agonizing death for a period of time from some bizarre infection from him touching that thing. And I do, for my own personal belief, believe that disasquatch and ufls are heavily connected. There can be a a resonance that depending on what we're saying, or somebody who would go into a heavily research area and then come out with certain forms of cancer. There's just been multiple individuals over the years that were also researchers but then had like let's say, really bad heart attacks, bad cancer. But at the end of the day, that could be related to, as you said, diet health, not potentially taking care of themselves. It's just it's one of those things maybe to think about. But you are correct.

40:33 You're mentioning stuff where in the examples you were mentioning were related to UFOs and not digfit. Just for people that might not be familiar with those examples. The gentleman was carrying like a some sort of UFO. Correct, I'm sorry, say that was pretty good? Was it down in South America where you said there was an individual that was. Oh yeah, he was carrying an actual alien being that there was that they did a special on it. It was in Brazil or something in the nineties, but yeah, there was supposedly a downcraft and then some kids saw these alien beings. And then so the townspeople were up and looking around, and one of the firemen or the policeman or something saw one of the beings in the bushes, and they went and actually got it and then brought it into town and that contact with it whatever was on it, and people said it smelled foul. It was like not of sulfur, but it was just this putrid smell or whatever. But I think that just like energy.

41:37 Years ago, I was writing an article for a martial arts magazine and I contacted a martial arts guy on the West Coast and I said. Oh, I'm a healer and I'm writing an article. I'd like to ask this question doing everything. He's like, oh, that's great. And I didn't know anything about karate or jiu jitsu or any of that stuff. I just wanted to get his professional opinion on different areas of energy work. And he told me, because I said, I, excuse my ignorance, I'm not familiar with martial arts. And this guy was some heavy hitter in his field where people would actually go there and live and for six months or a year a time under his training. And they told me flat out, just because you say you don't know anything about martial arts is I'll tell you right now that his serious students that he has come there, they live there and they work as a healer for six months first, because you had to know how to fix something before.

42:28 You break it. And I just like a pencil, you can write a poem or stab somebody in the eye, and his energy is with a could be very dangerous or in self defense or someone people's thoughts even on a daily basis that I don't even know what they're doing or hurting people, including the people that hurt themselves, where they obsessed about certain things that don't pay attend to their house. And like, especially when you talk about cancer and stuff, it's people try to say they're exposed to this, supposed to that. But the fact to the matter is that the human body fights off cancer multiple times a day and it's up to your body to be running as peak cell division.

43:09 Those things don't happen. So it's bizarre when people have these anomalousts unexplainable because I've had relatives too, didn't smoke, didn't drink, healthy lifestyle out of cancer. It's like, where did this guy get cancer? But especially when it comes to the bigfoot thing, I do maybe it's just my me being naive. People who dwell and I don't like to call it necessarily reptile thinking, but lower thinking where they're obsessing within themselves about negative things, even when they're not saying it out loud. They might be out hunting bigfoot or putting out the seismographic equipment or whatever, but in their mind they're negative, they're the dog in this in my life and blah blah blah.

43:51 That will get eventually. And I think Bigfoot has a way. I have a hard time saying Bigfoot now because they hear what you're guess saying. They don't like that. But especially when I'm sitting out here in a mount areas. Yes, mister Sasquash, sure, but we're talking about these vibrational rates and people getting sick unexplainably. I think there is a like when I first started becoming healer, like it is so amazing that more people don't know about this, and I'm going to meet these other healers and it's going to be this one big, vibrational, great. Time and it's anything but And I think there could be. A real terrible, not terrible, but a real territorial thing here where people find out like these researchers and oh yeah, I'm proving big Foot he's right over here, and the next thing you know, the young there with guns and they're looking to shoot it and they don't even know what they're doing. So even people with good intentions of doing research sometimes can be leading something done to a road where they don't want to be exposed. They don't want the attention hide and seek champion of the world.

44:57 They go out of their way not to have contact who kept repeatedly coming. Back and getting closer and closer. It's like, ah, I'd be throwing some frequencies that way to where you don't feel like coming back or anymore, and you're too busy trying to recover from something. Yeah, I put that out of the road easily. Yes, yes, you can easily hurt somebody with that, And I could see that to them is like, you know what, we don't need this guy poking around and you're jeopardizing his family or his territory or whatever. Just theory, but stranger things have happened. Maybe a last question for you, and thank you so much for spending time with us today. But the last question I had was do you feel like, at any time you've had any sort of communication with Sasquatch.

45:44 Over the years. Beyond the energy. No, I haven't have a specific Now you just nailed me on this, darn't it. I wasn't even going to breathe this up. How are we on time? Here? What? We're good? We're good? Okay, so many things have come up since I started listening to your show, and I was diving into some of these other shows and seeing what's out there. And I won't even say names because the people who are into this kind of know of this guy. But within my own personal training as a healer, I do not tell people. I don't read people, and I don't tell. Them things about their lives and their health unless I'm really hammered with it.

46:28 I don't like doing it unless it's absolutely necessary. And over the years I've had a process where if I'm picking up on something intuitively, I have a way to wipe it clean and let it return multiple times where I let it return, And so it's very difficult to say, am I thinking of this or is this a true piece of information from the ether rather than me just creating it in my mind. And there was an incident with that celebrity who disappeared in Oregon on a road trip and they found his car way off the beating path on some logging roads that rescue people had a very difficult time getting to, and his body was up in a tree, and it was just very odd sense of what happened to this guy, And of course they wrote it up as like, yeah, he died of exposure. Well, yeah, he was hung on a tree naked, and obviously his car was he was driving a Fiat or something that was carried in there. Because they couldn't even get ATVs back there. It literally took him like a month to recover this car. And they found this guy within I don't know, two weeks or whatever, and so it's a very bizarre death right and he's a semi celebrity whatever.

47:44 I instantly, in my mind. My intuition was telling me, because I like to believe in the good and Bigfoot, like, oh, they're just not going to go kill this guy for driving in And I didn't know who this guy was, and I used my technique to look at this like why would you do this? And in my opinion, here I started seeing other comments and other people talking about this individual. So in my mind that was confirmed. It was like, yeah, they you might have just ran into sasquatch and they saw something in him that they didn't like, like a lot. They just I could see that snap. And I'm not saying that's what happened, But if we're going with the Sasquatch theory of like why would they be so aggressive it and get this guy. It's once again, it's that vibrational raid and they can see through you.

48:36 I that's the only reason I don't see sasquatch squad of the way to avoid people and not have confrontation. And why would they do this? Who knows, but it just seemed very odd that they would do that. I got that answer, and it might be right, might be wrong, I don't know, but it is a very strange connection. Like even though you said I've ever had any psychic connection with Bigfoot, yes, and no. I directly asked them through the ether, like why would you do this? And I truly believe that that message gets through with that intention. But be careful what you ask for? It that's manifesting. Anyone takes anything away from this, it's that the phrase be careful what you ask for or wish for is extremely true and oh my goodness, can you'll be remembering that phrase for a long time if you keep down this road.

49:35 Early in my ninety nine two thousands, when I was doing this whole explanatory thing into UFOs and everything, I initiated some contact there that that's the whole story itself. But it was very Yeah, be careful what you ask for. It's everybody wants to do some UFO stuff until it's time to do some uifuls. Is that sure? Yeah, yeah, that's very close to the Bigfoot. Yeah, but it is. It is so strange how I knew over the years that they would they would say that Bigfoot is related to the UFOs and these orbs and these different things. And I definitely can see that correlation now, especially after on your show and hearing these people, I'm like, oh my gosh, that is right. And it just it is the frequencies, it is the energy, it is and like I said, I don't know if I'm right, but I've never felt threatened by that.

50:29 Even though I had some. Hair raising a counters, I never felt in danger. But the psychic connection is as uh yeah, when you've got to be ready to follow through with. If you're going to do that. Absolutely. I really appreciate you having me on and being able to speak freely, and I think that's where you get the best people and they're just giving their experience. Thank you so much for coming on. And Will your email is going to be in the show notes or just for this episode. So people want to reach out to you with questions. They can do that right absolutely. I think that like most healers out there, the good ones do not advertise.

51:12 It's all worth a mouth. And initially I was not going to put my Dimension connection email in there because I just wanted to do the story. But now that I've had the experience with your audience and people synchronistically running into bits of information at the right time, I felt that I should put that out. There's somebody has to have something change in life for the better to have that conduit, and it's there. Absolutely. Well, again, thank you for coming on and keep us in the loop with if any other interesting things come up for you in the future. I we'd love to hear about it. But you know what a fascinating conversation, and thank you again for coming on the show.

51:53 Thank you, it was a pleasure. Before we wrap this episode, I want to say something directly to a very specific group of listening. If you're in the military, any branch or forces, and if you've seen something that no one can explain, or if you're a National park ranger or forestry worker who's been told to stay quiet, or if you're a pilot who's seen something strange down on the ground, or if you're with the FBI a federal agency, or working intelligence and you stumbled upon something you're not allowed to talk about. And if you're a firefighter, paramedic, or search and rescue responder who's heard screams or found tracks that didn't make sense. If you're in the logging industry on a remote oil field, or a trucker with government contracts and you've had something happen that you've never told a soul. And if you're a biologist, a wildlife specialist, or a field researcher under contract who has found evidence you're not allowed to report.

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