MASSIVE BIPEDAL FIGURE TERRIFIES WITNESS IN THE SIUSLAW NATIONAL FOREST | ARCHIVES

0:00 You're listening to bigflet Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron. In this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to bring you first hand encounters from people who say they've seen something impossible. From backwoods trails in remote mountain haulers to quiet farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere, and each one leaves us with more questions than answers. These are the voices of the people who've lived it. To settle in, because today you'll hear another account that just might change the way you see the woods forever. So stay with us, all right, Bigfoot Society. You got the privilege of talking to Alicia. Alicia is an individual that I had the privilege of meeting at my booth in Sasquatch Summerfest out there in beautiful Oakridge, organ just a few months ago, and she has agreed to come on.

0:47 She's got some really interesting things that have happened to her over the years. But Alicia, it's a privilege to talk to you again, and thank you for coming on the show. Yeah, thanks for having me. I've been looking forward to this. It was awesome to meet you at the festival too, and it's exciting to share. You kind of helped encourage me to like set the appointment and do the interview, so I'm looking forward to it. Yeah. Absolutely, And it looked like you were making some really good connections around the fair. I noticed you were talking all sorts of people when I was talking to lots of people myself at my booth, so that was pretty cool to see. Yeah, it was great. I just happened to stumble upon and meet Jeff Rohn, and I was talking with Tob Johnson quite a bit because I'm in the Cottage Grove area, so I wanted to kind of talk his ear off a little bit and hear more about the Almon Lab stuff, and just met a lot of really great people.

1:49 That is fantastic. That's one of my favorite books. It's such an incredible read and big fan of everything that Toab and those guys do. And I've talked Jeff as well. But that's why I'm saying people, you need to go to festivals like this, especially the smaller, newer ones, because you're gonna get connections that you're not going to be able to get on the Internet. But that to the side, Alisha, that's kind of my plug for people to go to festivals in person. It's honored to have you on here. I'm going to go ahead and put things right over to you. But before we start, I am going to say this is going to be one of those interviews where it'll be kind of a more conversational back and forth, just because we want things to flow a certain way, and I always check with the individual to see if they'd prefer them just taking the reins and going or if we want to have more of a conversation. So we're going to go ahead and do that. So it might be a little bit different than you're used to, but it'll be great. And Alisha, I'm going to have you go ahead and start off where you'd like to start.

2:59 Okay, sounds good. So I was born and raised in Astoria, Oregon, which is like the top left of Oregon, right at the mouth of the Columbia River there, and I when I was about nine, I think nine years old, I lived with my grandparents off on a lot in our childhood and they decided to sell their house in town and purchased a five acre property out in called Spincon. But it's technically it's still the Astoria zip code, but it's about like twenty or thirty minutes east of Astoria off Highway thirty. And we moved out there. And the first summer I was out there, I had a sleepover with a four eight friend and she came over and spent the night, and we stayed up later because it was a summer night, and we probably went to bed around like twelve or twelve thirty and I could not sleep because it was just really hot and we didn't have ac and she fell asleep within like the first five minutes and was snoring. So between the heat and the snoring and probably like a leftover caffeine rush, I could just not sleep for the life of me. And it wasn't very uncommon for me to just lay in bed and kind of be in my head thinking about things, and so I know I did that for about like an hour and a half or so, and at one

4:31 point I got so fed up with the heat that I just grabbed my pillow and decided to lay down on the carpet below the only window in my room. And I'm laying there and I guess maybe I should kind of describe the property a little bit in the area, but so it's kind of like in the shape of a square, and it's a corner lot, so the road wrapped around like the left and top side of it. We had kind of some neighbors on our right side and kind of back behind us, but we had a lot of elk and deer and coyotes around. We were really familiar with the elk and the deer coming into our yard and for some reason, they really like to enter in this one specific corner, which was like the top right corner, and it would lead from the road and they'd have to jump over a drainage ditch into our field. Our property was pretty open, like not a ton of trees, but if on our road because it kind of came to a tee, so it didn't matter if you took a left towards our property or right.

5:40 Either way it would end up at like a gravel road with just tons of forest and there'd be you know, logging trucks coming in and out during the week, and so just a lot of forests land back there. But our property itself was pretty open. So going back to the story, so I'm laying there and it's probably between like one thirty two thirty in the morning, and I hear this really loud thump and I immediately woke up because I was like almost drifting off to sleep, and then the thud sound like woke me up. My eyes I opened wide open, and immediately after the thud, I started to hear running, and it sounded by pedal to me.

6:28 And with the deer and the elk that would always come into our yard, I was familiar with the sound of them kind of entering our property because you'd hear kind of like a first thud and a second thud, like the front hoofs followed by the back hooves, and this was just like a single thud, so the thud and then running towards the direction of the house. I kind of heard it approaching, and it probably got like halfway through the field, and I started to hear really heavy breathing, and at this point I was kind of more like paralyzed in fear a little bit, because I was realizing that it was heading in the direction of like the house and like my open window, and even though my blinds were closed, I was just like, I guess nervous that this thing would somehow know whatever it was that I was on the other side of the window or something and little paranoid thoughts. But so it booked it past my window, and it was so loud, like the footfall was really heavy. The breathing, of course, became a lot louder, and it just kind of went right past my window. It took a single step on our gravel driveway and then it hit the pavement, and as soon as it hit the pavement, I heard the sound of their feet slapping on pavement, and that really kind of tripped me out because I was like a party of me was thinking, there's a person running through

7:59 our yard in the middle of the night, which is strange on its own, But why would they not be wearing shoes? Was my other thought. And then it continued running, and then there was like a short pause followed by another thud, and then I continued hearing the running again. So it actually I realized it ran just far enough to pass, Like we had a bordering treeline behind our house, separating our property in the neighbor's property, and there was like old barbed wire in there too, So this thing, whatever it was, just ran long enough to pass that treeline and then jumped over the ditch and continued running in our neighbor's field, which was like three foot tall dry grass, and I could hear it like kind of pushing down the tall grass as it was running. And the other thing about it was just how fast it covered ground, Like I mean, I can't even really guess how long it took, but I just remember in the moment thinking like, wow, this thing is really fast, really heavy, and just had no idea. I had a hard time believing it was a person, and I didn't tell my friend or my family. I was just kind of like freaked out and wanted to forget it sort of a thing.

9:20 But that was the first experience I had at that house. And then a couple of years later, I was probably like thirteen or fourteen, and this is one that I experienced with my mom. And by this time we had two dogs, and we had like a small Schnauzer mix and then kind of a medium sized pit bull rescue, and the two of them were like they would just bark and go running after anything on our property, Like didn't matter if it was you know, big elk or the deer or people. They would just take off running.

10:02 We actually had to be careful about letting them outside if we had elk in our yard and stuff like that. But my mom and I went shopping for the day and we had probably been gone about like five hours, i'd say, and no one else was home. So when we got home, first thing, we were like, oh, got to take the dogs out because they probably need to go. And so we let them out the back porch and we start walking out there with them, and we noticed that they wouldn't go down off the porch, so we kind of decided to walk down off the few steps and onto this little tile paver area. And it's dark. I don't remember there being any source of light outside of like our porch light reaching as far as it did, so we can see stars and you know, no moonlight or anything, because it was pitch black beyond like the porch light. So and as we're walking down the stairs off the porch, we're kind of talking. I think we were just resuming a conversation we were having in the car, and we think the dogs came off the porch and are doing their thing, but we're just talking and not paying attention, and then all of a sudden, in front of us, we start to hear something like trudging through the BlackBerry bushes walking through them like it's no problem at all, and they'd probably be like, you know, kind of waist height BlackBerry bushes. And it's again like heavy footsteps, and it was kind of like a boom boom boom sound.

11:36 And my mom and I both stopped talking and she's like, do you hear that? And you know what is that? And she thought maybe it was an elk and I was like, no, I don't hear like the hoofs and and she's like, could it be a cougar? And I thought no, I think it would you know, be trying to sneak up on us if it was a cougar. And it just keeps like really steady pace of approaching us, and then it gets as it's getting closer, I start to hear deep, heavy breathing and I instantly think back and remember that night at the sleepover when that thing ran through our yard, and it reminded me so much of that sound, just like the heaviness of it and the breathing, and it wasn't slowing down, and that it also wasn't speeding up, but it was just like beelining straight for us, and we should have been able to see it, but again, it was so dark and the porch light only illuminated so far. And then my mom is just like, wait, were the dogs, and because we hadn't heard a peep out of them, and we look up and they're still on the porch. They're actually standing at the back door with their tails tucked and their hackles up, and they look terrified, which is very abnormal for them. They always freak out when something's on our property.

13:00 And we were like, this is weird. So my mom just goes get in the house and we ran in and she locked the door, and immediately she ran over and like closed the blinds to a window that if it were daylight, would have been facing where that thing was walking towards us, Like we would have been able to see it had there been light, but we couldn't. Yeah, of course it was pitch black. So it weirded me out that she closed the blinds. I mean, I think that was just kind of like a mom instinct, like protective thing. But I remember thinking, you know, if it was an animal, why would you close the blinds? But and that freaked us out. We didn't really talk about it too much after that, but she'll still talk about it with me and agree that that was weird, and we both kind of questioned, you know, what it could have been, but I kind of I lean more towards the bigfoot stuff and she's open to that. But yeah, both of those things are I guess still up in the air. Just didn't sound like any animal I could think of. I guess.

14:09 Was that the same property as well? Or yes? Yeah, sorry, that was the same property? Ok? Yeah, Yeah. We were probably out there for like eight years, I want to say, but yeah, and those were the two main kind of experiences we had out there. And I asked other parts of my family, like my brother lived with us and then my grandparents, and I don't recall them sharing anything, but yeah, they were interesting. You said it was east of Astoria. Yeah, so if you take Highway thirty and head towards like Rainier, organ and like were the bridges going over to long View out that way? I think it's about like maybe eighteen or twenty miles east of our story.

15:01 It's still considered the same zip code, but there's like a little sign that says Spincon but yeah, it's right before Napa. So were you close to Rainier or not? Too close. I think from spincon Rainier probably would have been another like thirty five forty minutes, but yeah, it's from a story, it'd probably be more like a forty five to fifty minute kind of track. Wow, okay, So in terms of bigfoot moving around, it's it's not that far away. There's a lot of like forest land out there. Oh yeah, there's quite a bit. Yeah you've heard the have you heard the rin Yer stuff I've had on this podcast?

15:46 That was that was the first one I ever heard. Was it really really gotten me hooked? Okay? Yeah, yeah, that was one of my favorites. Yeah, there may be more coming to that in a few years. We'll see. Oh cool, prass your fingers. Yeah. So thinking back to that time when you're I mean you're pretty young. We just heard that you were around thirteen to fourteen in the last account, did you ever notice any weird stuff on the property besides hearing the sounds the footprints? Did you ever see like any weird things done to trees or other sounds that didn't make sense or just kind of out of place stuff.

16:31 No, I mean so I didn't really explore much of the woods or anything out that way. And like our property I mentioned, we didn't really have a ton of trees. Other people's properties would, but ours was fairly open. In fact, I think that there were like a lot of young trees that were just planted. And I drove past that property somewhat in the last recent and last prior three years, and those trees have already grown. You can't even like see the house anymore as you drive by. But yeah, so I didn't notice any interesting structures or things like that. But to be honest, I don't think I would have an eye for it. It wasn't until I learned about that stuff that I like will see at anytime I'm out in the woods. But we did have a kind of a separate living room on the end of the house, or one end of the house that was kind of like a TV family room, and the porch kind of hugged around that side of the house, but it had a ramp leading up to it. And there was a lot of summer nights that I would fall asleep with the TV on, like no volume, but leaving the TV on for kind of like light. And when I would be asleep kind of in the middle of the night, I would be woken up to the sound of someone stepping on the creaky boards of that ramp, and I would wake up and listen, and I wouldn't hear any addition,

18:01 any additional like footsteps leading off or continuing onto the porch. It would just be like the creaks of specific boards that I knew myself from just walking on it, and then there would be no other sound. So that always I always wondered about. But aside from that, I don't really remember much else. My brother saw a cougar at night, kind of backlit by the moonlight one night while he was out smoking on the porch. But yeah, I don't I asked him, and he didn't seem to remember any like strange, non wildlife type experiences.

18:41 Gotcha, And did that ever come up in conversations with neighbors, like, Hey, we had something weird running around on our property. Did you guys ever have anything or anything that happened? No, not that I not that I'm aware of. I don't know if my you know, it's possible that that was, you know, conversations between my grandparents and my mom, But I we only talked to about one neighbor in particular. They were on our right and they pretty much kept to themselves, but they would let us know if there was, you know, any sightings of cougars in the area, or you know, if animals, like their pets were getting messed with by coyotes or anything. But it was mostly just kind of your typical small talk with them. And yeah, they had a couple of horses and a couple of dogs, but we didn't really. Yeah, it was just kind of a simple, you know, high neighbor sort of a thing.

19:50 Wather's nice kind of talk. Yeah, I totally get it. Kind of similar maybe to New England a little bit in a way, which is where I grew up. But so abound that time of your your life, you had some interesting things happen and you're kind of open to well maybe this bigfoot, maybe not. And then did other things happen pretty close to that or was it another multiple year gap between something else? Yeah, there was probably another another good gap. So, like my next experience was more like when I was twenty one or twenty two age range. I've grown up having kind of like paranormal activity stuff, and I moved around quite a bit in my childhood, so we'd be in houses and i'd kind of have more experiences surrounding like maybe quote unquote haunted house type of situation or things like that, but not as much in the realm of Bigfoot.

20:54 So but when I was, yeah, that age range of twenty one twenty two, I was working in the service industry and befriended the scal and her boyfriend who I worked together with, and we decided to go camping together. And if you head down one on one from Astoria, you can go past Seaside and wind up at that junction where it splits off to either stay on one on one or take Highway twenty six. That'll go over a pass and it kind of spits you out towards Beaverton area, and on that pass is a campground called Spruce Run. So we decided to go camp that way, and they brought their dog with them, but otherwise it was just the three of us and we When you first pull off of Highway twenty six towards the you know the sign for the campground, it kind of the road splits and you can go left and up towards the lake which is called Lost Lake, or you can go to the right and go down into the campground.

22:00 We wanted to go out and check out the lake, but we decided to go grab our spot first and kind of set up a little bit. So we went down and we found our camp spot, and when we were driving down in, I noticed off to the left that there was a trailhead that kind of hugged and paralleled the road of the lake kind of drive up or whatever, and so I made a comment of that, and I was like, oh, I wonder if that, you know, that trail leads to the lake, maybe we should try to hike to it. And it's probably not that long. So we decided to do that. After we set up, we walked over to the trailhead and there was no like signs at that time, so it didn't like, I don't even know if the trail had like a name or anything. And then there was just kind of like a blink sign area. But we decided to take the truck anyways, and their dog was really excited, you know, kind of had the zoom easy up ahead of us and then come back. But then I was leading in front, and you know, besides the dog, and every like twenty feet probably I was running into cobwebs, and then the trail was pretty overgrown. You could tell it wasn't really maintained, and so I remember making a comment about partway, you know, about five minutes in or something that like, I don't think anyone's taking this trail recently, because I'm literally walking into gobwebs, you know, every fifteen or twenty feet, and

23:33 pretty soon it turns into just switchbacks, and so the dog's like running up ahead of me, kind of partially up the next switchback, and then he turns around and comes running back and he'll check in with his owners. And we get like twenty minutes into the hike, and all of a sudden, something like throws a decent sized rock up and over our heads, like this perfect art, and it just like wax trees all the way down, and I stop and we all look at each other and we're just kind of like, what what was that? And I'm trying to kind of look up because there's a bit of like a ridge up above us, and I don't, you know, I don't see anything, and the dogs like all perked up and curious. But I think I made a joke of you know, I think at that point I had heard about bigfoots throwing rocks, and so I think I cracked a joke like, oh, maybe it's a bigfoot. But we were we were kind of puzzled, but I was curious and also wanted to continue hiking, and so I think we just decided to keep going a little farther. I think I kind of encouraged it a bit.

24:47 How did the other people and the party react to your joke. I think they just kind of laughed a little bit. I mean they were they'd be open minded to chatting about the subject like that, but I don't know if they personally were, you know, in that boat of believing in them. But yeah, I think I remember them just kind of giggling at it, and I think they were more concerned that it was a person maybe up there, like camping out, or like, you know, maybe like a homeless person living up there. But I was like, oh, it's probably you know, it's probably nothing, or maybe it wasn't a rock. I remember us kind of trying to talk through it of like maybe it's not as big of a deal. But I in my head, I was like curious and kind of hoping that it was a rock thrown by bigfoot. So I was encouraging them to keep going, and we went probably I think like one and a half more switchbacks and a second one was thrown.

25:51 So I immediately looked up the ridge or hill side again and I could see where I think it came from, because this bush was kind of shaking pretty like rapidly, and I pointed it out and they're like, oh yeah, and I could see on their faces they were weirded out, And I mean I was a little weighted out, but I was kind of more excited and curious than afraid. But at this point, the dog actually turned around and started descending the trail without us, like he wasn't having any of it. And I think at this point in the trail we were also wanting to know like how much farther it was, and it started to seem like it was taking longer than it should because the road leading up to it is very short, like it shouldn't take that long to kind of get to But this, yeah, the second time that the rock was thrown, it did the same exact thing, like the same exact perfect arch.

26:50 It was way up over our heads and then hit multiple trees as it came down. But when I looked up where I think that it kind of came from there. You could see that that wasn't a part of the trail, like the switchbacks were about to stop, and like maybe it continues farther off to the right or something, because you couldn't see. It was just all overgrown, and it didn't make sense to me that a person would be hiding up there and just like throwing rocks at people. And I think at this point too, I was still running into cobwebs, maybe a little less, but there was still quite a few as we continued up there, and so we just kind of decided, okay, like something is either maybe not wanting us up there or is messing with us. And because I could tell they were a little uncomfortable and the dog was like ready to leave, we decided to go back down to the campground and drive up to the lake instead. And so we went and we did that, came back, had some food and things, and I remember when the boyfriend was taking the cooler out of the car, he was making a comment that the cooler was really heavy, and my friend his girlfriend was kind of laughing, like, you know, why did you pack so much? And we were only going to be there for one night, but he's a cook and so he got really into bringing lots of good food. And then my friend and I worked at a beer growler station,

28:21 so we had like heavy thirty ounce you know, jars of craft beer in there, and then like the ice and all that. So it was probably like a thirty five pound or so cooler when he was taking it out. And anyway, so I'm making that note because when we went to bed that night, I was woken up at some point, you know, middle of the night, to hearing that cooler being dragged across the gravel on the ground. And it wasn't like I didn't hear any other sound of like something trying to open the cooler or scratch at it. I didn't hear any footsteps or something like scamping, like scampering around the camp. It was literally just the like it happened three times. You would hear it drag across the cooler, it would pause, and then it did it again, and then there was kind of a longer pause, and then it happened one more time, and I stayed awake listening because I was like, if it's you know, a small animal, I think you'd hear more or any animal, you'd hear more noises. If it was like a bear or something, you'd probably hear like sniffing or you know, something like that, And there was no other noise. It was literally just something. And it almost reminded me of like a paranormal type experience where an inanimate object is like being moved, but you don't like hear any other

29:51 noises to kind of logically explain it. It reminded me of that in a way. So, you know, little things that were just weird enough to make you question or yeah, wonder, I. Guess that is that's extremely weird. Yeah, I feel like we are missing some foundation foundational information you because you alluded to it, really, and I just I don't know if you're you're If you're not comfortable with this, that's fine, But what kind of stuff was also happening when you were younger?

30:37 Well, so, I, like I said, I moved around a lot, and yeah, I'm totally comfortable getting into it. I just didn't know how much I should kind of keep it strictly to bigfoot stuff, but or being out in the woods. So I remember being woken up a lot from like deeper sleeps and just having an over presence feeling in the room. I was terrified of sleeping alone and like in the dark. Even if I was like sleeping with my mom, there had to be a night light because I would get woken up so often by like noises and not just not just your typical like floorboard creaking or the house settling, you know, like wood expansion or whatever it was. It would sound more like tapping or knocking, or or it would be something that I didn't hear.

31:32 It would just be an overwhelming sense of like a presence of something in the room. Might even be kind of hyper focused on, like a certain corner, but not stuff that you know, could probably be choked up to, you know, kids fear and wild imaginations. But I woke up in my grandma's house before they sold their house, and when we moved out to Spencon, they had a pink how Sup on the hill in Astoria, and one morning everyone was downstairs eating breakfast and I was sleeping in I must have been like five or six, probably, but I woke up to the door just like slowly being pushed open, which wasn't something that a breeze could do, because it was a really tall, like shaggy carpet, and it would require some effort to kind of push it open, and that freaked me out. I booked it and ran downstairs.

32:33 And then I used to see like shadows in the corner of my eyes that I would just kind of brush off or ignore because I don't know. I think I avoided for most of my childhood trying to understand or explain things that would happen. But that's because it was like too scary for me to really try to understand or think about. I was pretty easily spooked as a kid, Like I had to be careful of what I watched and things like that because it would just kind of linger for me, or it would feel so real.

33:14 Even if it was just like a you know, a made up movie or something, it would feel very real. And I've also always just had a very open mind when it came to the possibility of things existing like Bigfoot or you know, aliens, ghosts, you know, forest creatures, things like that. And I kind of feel like because I've had an open mind to it, that I've naturally been like approached or like exposed to experiencing more because I don't know, And that's just like my theory on it is because I'm if other people tell me stories or things that they believe, and I just kind of of like, I listened to them and you know, take them by their word if they if they seem authentic and without judgment, and like, wow, you know, I personally don't know if I believe in that specific thing, but I'm willing to hear it and hear them out and not discredit them for it. So I think a lot has to do with my just open mindedness to the possibilities has made me experience a lot more. And that stuff really vamped up more in like my teenage years and my early to mid twenties, and I still get little things here and there, usually when I'm by myself, but yeah, it's something I'm more used to now and

34:47 I've kind of overcome the fear and became more curious about things. And yeah, so if that kind of explains it, I don't know that. That really makes sense your dreams or or any weird communication or anything like that. Yeah, I actually have a specifically with Bigfoot. I was debating whether I should add it or not into the stories. But when I was young, or probably like between five and seven, I would have a reoccurring dream about a bigfoot like watching me through a window, and it was always a square window. Weirdly enough, I should probably look into like the symbology of you know, like dream symbolism and all that stuff. But I would always be alone, and typically in like my Grandma's house would be the setting.

35:42 But I'd be in the living room like watching TV alone with nobody else home, and then suddenly I'd get the feeling that I was being watched, and I would look up, and sure enough it would be that square window with just the shoulders and the head of a bigfoot. I would immediately book it to the next room over and find a hiding spot where I felt like I was out of view and for a moment feel safe and like I wasn't seen. And then the feeling would come back around and I'd feel it again, and I'd look up and where on a wall there wasn't a window before that same square window like manifested in the dream, and that same exact bigfoot would be right there. And it was always during the daytime. I wish I could like think of or remember more details about like the face, but I in my dream. I would always kind of book it as soon as I saw, like the silhouette, and so I don't have much like memory of the specifics of what it looked like or anything, but yeah, and that one. I probably had that dream like six or eight times, and it would just always play out the same way, like maybe the house was a little different, but the same exact thing would happen every time. And I told my mom about it the other day, asking her, you know, when she might think I was exposed to,

37:14 like the idea of bigfoot existing, because I don't remember, you know, I never saw Harry and the Henderson's until I was like twenty three, so and of course bigfoots marketed and used all over the place now, but back then, I mean that would have been like the mid to late nineties. It wasn't as common to see that, you know, silhouette or be exposed to the idea of bigfoot. And you know, like I said, she was careful about what I would watch or see as a kid, so she couldn't think of a time when maybe I would have learned about the possibility of them. So I kind of tripped out at the thought of, like whoa, what if I was having these dreams before I even knew they existed.

37:58 But I can't like confirm or deny that. That's that's super super interesting, and thank you for sharing that, because that's that's pretty personal. Well this all is. But yeah, any questions I asked you, you can shut me down. Do you have a religious background at all? I do not. There's been times when like my mom or grandparents would attend church, like Christian churches, and I went to church a little bit as a kid, but it wasn't super enforced and it wasn't something that stayed.

38:39 And then personally, I've dabbled in a lot more like spirituality stuff. But I'm now at a point in my life where, you know, if I kind of go through phases where I feel more connected to uh, spirituality and other times I don't. It kind of just depends what I do or how I'm feeling. But it's not like a you know, like an everyday thing, or I don't take it super seriously. I just kind of have a openness to the possibilities of all of it. I guess, yeah, when you say dabble with stuff is like meditation. Stuff, I thought, yeah, meditation like divination, like tarot cards and pendulums. There was a time in my twenties where I was really into that stuff, and now it's just kind of like, yeah, I know about it and I have it, but I don't always use them or mess with those things. I just kind of when it feels right or when I feel like utilizing them.

39:44 It sounds like you're probably a type of person where you're sensitive to different things, maybe even able to get vibes about certain people that around you. Perhaps. Yeah, I think some of my own personal like like social anxieties or things like that, like mental. Health stuff, tend to get in the way of like when I'm around other people, I don't feel as sensitive to you know them. I think I can pick up on, you know, whether I think someone's being honest or authentic with me, but I definitely don't pick up on you know.

40:30 I don't claim to have any specific like gifts, I guess if that makes sense. But based off of you know, reading about the different types like Claire Buoyance or whatever, things like that, a lot of my experiences have been audible, and I tend to hear things that people other people don't, and so if anything kind of leans more towards like the Claire audience side of things, but I don't like claim any of those as a label. If yeah, that's really interesting. So you never have like year around so when who don't know and it's like, oh, I feel like I was really should talk to them for some reason and nothing like that.

41:13 Yeah, I haven't. I haven't had that. I mean, I'll be drawn towards people if I feel like they give off good energy or good vibes or whatever you want to call it. But I tend to think like I just end up stumbling upon like being at the right place at the right time and meeting people like I actually view the festival as kind of that, because that was the first time I attended one of those things, and I was a little nervous to get out there and you know, be put myself. I don't I don't go out too much and I've got a pretty small circle and just kind of do my thing. So getting out in the public or bigger events sometimes can like I can talk myself out of going, but I made myself go and it ended up being amazing.

42:00 So yeah, absolutely, Well thanks for thanks for backtracking a little bit and going over some of the foundational stuff. So, yeah, your we were last talking about the campsite incident in your in your early twenties, and then. Oh, I actually do have a little like side note oka spin off experience to that. So I can't remember what year that was, but so when I was around like twenty one two, and that was probably in the springtime, I want to say, like late spring or early summer.

42:41 But anyways, that following December, my parents were living in central Oregon at the time, in Redmond, and we went to their house around Christmas time, and my brother and I and one of my good friends at the time, we decided to go hike at Rock and we instead of going up and over you know, the big rock stuff, like kind of the main trail, I forget what the actual trail name is called, but there's also you can kind of go down to the left and just follow down along the flat canyon area. So we decided to do that one and I was telling them the story about the rock throwing the Spruce Run campground and we're in like a single file line. My brother's leading my friends in the middle and then I'm in the back, and at the time, no one was like around us.

43:39 I think we were on a part of the trail that maybe other people weren't either at yet or just wasn't like a high traffic time. It was just mostly felt like it was us. We didn't pass that many people. So anyways, I'm like kind of telling this story as we're walking along, and my friend in the middle just asked me, like, you know, I can't remember how she worded it, but she was essentially asking me if I thought that there was something more to them, like intelligence or you know, stranger about them, something like more complex, and you know, I immediately answered with like, yeah, definitely, like that was kind of where I was leaning towards.

44:22 And right after I said yes, absolutely, I we heard this PLoP right behind us and we turn around and this like flat, larger rock was thrown from somewhere and was just dropped perfectly centered in the path behind us like we had just walked through there. We knew that that rock wasn't there before, and we all heard like the PLoP of it landing behind us, and I turned around and saw it, and we all looked at each other and they're like that was weird, and we look around. I think there was to our right more of like a big rock face wall, So there was nobody, you know, on our right, and then on our left was like a moving kind of little like ravine area and the water was kind of loud. But on the opposite side of the running water there is another trail, but it's a little bit farther out and there's nothing but you know, like maybe knee hide rocks and sage brush, And there was nobody over there. And we looked in front of us, behind us, and no one was around us at that time.

45:33 But also even if somebody did throw, like a human throw a rock from the other side, that water was pretty loud, and I couldn't imagine that from there that they could really hear us that well. And like the story I was telling and just the timing of it was really interesting. So that felt almost like a confirmation to when I answered that question to her, I was like, oh, that was funny. Yeah, So that was just a little kind of spin off of that story, just the timing and everything. So it's so weird because I've had multiple interviews recently and some of them have gotten really deep, and there have been other people that have said a similar variant of what you just said, where it's like they were saying something in the exact second after they stopped saying it, there was some physical like something fell or a tree was pushed over. That's a wild way. Yeah, it's a very interesting thing that you just mentioned, because it's something that I'm starting to hear from other people that are also very open to certain things like you are saying. So, don't know if there's a connection there.

46:50 But yeah, I think I don't know. I mean, just based off of my own experience, that's kind of where my head leads and what I to theorize, But of course we all have our own individual experiences. During that time too, I was listening to and watching different YouTube channels where I was kind of learning more about people's encounters and things more beyond just like the flesh and blood idea of them. So that was kind of already on my mind, and it seemed like once I would learn something new and I was like exposed to a new idea or like maybe thing that people assumed that they did, like rock throwing or the tree knocky and all that stuff. It was like as soon as I had read or listened to something that talked about it I would experience it or yeah, like encounter that, so and I kind of I always lead back to the idea that, you know, we kind of we tend to perceive things based off of what we know. You know, It's like if you don't know that something is a possibility or exists, it's like your brain might not pick up on that or even see it, like you'd walk right past it, or you'd chalk it up to a bird making a noise or whatever. So yeah, just trying to like learn and listen to more people's encounters makes

48:20 me want to get out and kind of try to experience more things. I think. I think there's something to that, definitely. Yeah, Yeah, I think when you're you're studying different things like this, you are going to be familiar with certain things that if you had just heard a weird bird in the woods that didn't really sound like a bird, you'd probably think that's just a weird bird. But then yeah, if you're maybe familiar with bigfoot stuff, you might be thinking some other stuff too. So I totally get it. You also had some some things happen after that, correct, Yes.

49:01 It's kind of my most recent experience that I had and again it's a more like audible experience, but it was my first time going out with kind of the newer knowledge and ideas and possibilities about them. And after learning that, I had been wanting to go out and find an area where I could try to maybe i'd like people use the word hapituation now I think I learned that from listening to your podcast, but basically something like that where I'd go and i'd try to bring gifts and see if I could, you know, maybe stir things up. And the other thing, too was the method of people going out and just talking out loud in the woods. And it felt very strange to me to like try to do that, and you know, I kind of laughed at myself or felt for doing it. But that was kind of my intention, was to go out and find a spot and try those things. And at the time I was living in Venitas before I moved out to Cottage Grove, I was twenty nine, so this was spring of twenty twenty three, and I decided to head west towards like the sayus Law National Forest. And I was driving around for quite a while and nothing was really you know, popping out or there wasn't like

50:31 the perfect turnoff the area. And I wasn't really sure exactly what I was looking for. I just kind of you know, winging it. And then I noticed this gate that's blocking off this cement bridge, and I noticed it was going over the bridge was you know, over the sayus Law River. So I decided to just pull out, and I was like, oh, I just want to see the water and maybe experienced in like nice nature spot for a second. So I just got out and took a break and parked my car in front of the gate, and I walk around the gate and onto the bridge, and there's a bunch of like old leaf debris, pine needles, you know, like little twigs and stuff that had fallen, and so I could tell that it wasn't like they hadn't used. I assumed it was kind of like leading towards like a logging operation road or something, but didn't seem like anyone had driven across it for a while.

51:33 And then on the opposite side was kind of some overgrown grass that maybe had old tire mark tread lines. But yeah, So I start walking on the bridge and I get about like five or six feet in and I hear this knock from underneath the bridge, but it sounded metallic, like something knocked on. Like the first thing that popped in my head was like the metal so port of beam underneath or something like that. And because it definitely came from below me, and it was definitely like a tin kind of knocking sound, and I stopped and listened for a second and was like, hm, maybe that was just kind of something settling and making a noise.

52:20 I don't know, So I kept walking. I stopped in the middle for a second, and then I continued towards the other end of the bridge, and just before I reached the end of the bridge on the opposite side, I heard it again, except funny enough, it didn't sound like a perfect little knock. It sounded like something tried to slap the metal beam or whatever it was with like its finger, and like didn't hit it just right, so it was like it didn't come out. It was like quieter, and it almost sounded like a misfire knock, if that makes sense. I don't know, because I don't know, And maybe that was intentional the way it sounded, But it sounded to me like I could hear the like fingers smacking it, but not as you know, loud as they intended to kind of thing. And then I so at that point I was like, Okay, that's weird those noises.

53:21 And I started to walk very quietly, like as quiet as I could, across the debris back to my car in case, you know, I had the idea of like, oh, maybe there's a person under there, I should maybe be conscious of that. And you know, I'm a girl out in the woods out here all by myself without any cell phone service. So I slowly start to walk back towards my car and when I hit almost the end of the bridge again, it happens and it's another more of a knock sound, but it was even quieter, so I couldn't And at this point I think I was recording on my phone and I tried to pick it up, but I it didn't pick up the knocking noises. And then I'm standing at my car and thinking, you know, if it was a person that I was trying to like scare me out of here, there'd probably be more noises than just the knocking, you know, I maybe if they were trying to really get me out of this area.

54:21 And then I had the idea of like, oh, maybe those were you know, like knocks to tell me that I found a spot, you know, like maybe that's what that just was. I don't know, so, and I didn't feel in danger or anything, like, It's really peaceful out there. So I decided to just go back on the bridge and grab my phone and to lean over the edge of the bridge in the middle and to try to record with my camera like both sides underneath to see if somebody or something was down there. So I like really carefully grabbed my phone, just like really hoping I wasn't about to, you know, drop it in the water, and I pan it from one side to the other and pull it back up, open my camera roll and look, and there's nothing down there, Like there's nobody, and the water's fairly high. There's like a little bit of a ledge where somebody could stand, but it's kind of steep, so I couldn't imagine someone hiding under there without you know, struggling with balance, and you know, it's kind of like that clay type soil too, so it'd be kind of slick, and I just I couldn't imagine how someone would be down there hanging out. But and then there was a lot of overgrown brush on both sides. I'm sure you could kind of move your way down there underneath the bridge, but there was no obvious, like even game trail leading

55:52 down there, and you'd make quite a bit of noise walking around in it. There's just like a lot of crunchy leave and little twigs on the ground. So aside from the knox, I didn't hear anything else, so I kind of just said, Okay, maybe that was confirmation that I found my spot. So I went back to my car and I grabbed some gifts quote unquote, I just kind of brought like I had some old stones or crystals that I didn't really need anymore, and I think I grabbed a couple of seashells, and then I had apples and ausie bites, which are really good. They're kind of like a healthy snack or whatever. I just kind of grabbed things that I had at home, and I decided to set them on kind of the ledge on the side of the bridge there, and then I was like, Okay, I guess now would be a good time for me to attempt to talk out loud if there's like anything out here. So I start talking out loud and I feel totally ridiculous, and I'm doing this from so I Yeah, I went back on the bridge and I'm standing in the middle of the bridge kind of talking in the direction of my car and the road and that direction.

57:19 And as I'm talking, I just kind of like introduced myself and I was like, I you know that I believe in them existing out here, and that you know that it's hard for me to be out in the woods by myself because I had an idea I had to like just be authentic, and so I was like, I'm a little bit fearful, So this is like a lot for me to come out in the woods alone. And you know, it just was kind of silly. I cut out that part of my recording because I can't like listen back to it. It just sounds ridiculous. But as I was talking, I just got this really strong just I guess the best I can explain it is like my whole body was just like zinging, just like I don't even know if I would call it like vibration or something. It just felt like my whole almost like an adrenaline rush, and it felt like something was very close and like listening to me and it was just all over, like my whole body just took over and this like feeling of like I don't I don't even know how to really describe it. I had never felt anything that strong before, and it took me off guard and I had to kind of like take a deep breath and nothing. I wasn't hearing anything around me.

58:52 I just had that moment of feeling that you know, physical sensation. And so it was also getting dark at this point. The sun wasn't fully set yet, but there's a lot of tree canopy, so as it was starting to move that direction, it got darker and darker pretty quick, and I didn't think I was ready to be in the dark in the woods by myself. So I was like, I better wrap this up, and you know, I'm not hearing anything. And in the moment, I didn't really take very seriously the physical sensation that I felt. I just tried to kind of move through it. And so but in my recording, I I after I was done talking, I was trying to wrap it up, and I kind of dorkishly said like, oh, like, you live in a really beautiful place, and then I took this big like sigh, like trying to calm myself down, and right after I took that big exhale, something in the wood across the road in front of my car let out what sounded to me in the moment like a really deep sigh, and it was very loud, and it completely caught me off guard because it sounded, I mean, it sounded perfectly like a sigh, almost like it mimicked my sigh. And

1:00:23 I even heard pitch changed, like it was like a who, like you heard three tones change. Of course, I can't do it justice, but it I just I was in shock, and weirdly enough I recognized. I mean, you can't say you recognize the voice, but like I've listened to stuff from like a lot of audio from Sasquatch, Ontario or Mike I can't think of his last name, but the like the tone of the the voice or sound, I guess it reminded me a lot like that like that.

1:01:04 At the moment I heard it, it like clicked in my brain. It was like that was one of them. And I immediately just like my stomach dropped and I was just kind of in shock and I was like, oh crap, Like that came from closer to where my car is, and I have to walk that direction and it's getting really dark now, like I'm I'm scared, and so I just out loud said like okay, like thank you, I need to walk back to my car now, so if you could please just give me some space. And so I just like my whole body is now shaking out of fear, and I'm like trembling, and I'm walking back to my car and I get in the car and I lock the door and I turned on my car and immediately just start leaving because I couldn't handle it.

1:01:55 It was such a weird physical reaction, like my hands are on the steering wheel and just like like shaking. I couldn't calm myself down. I was like okay, like it's okay, We're in the car. It's safe, and you know, like realizing, you know, you kind of asked for this, this is what we came out here to experience. But I just I didn't expect such a physical reaction to it. And I really didn't think about that part of this experience until I started listening to like more things on your podcast or some other people and listening or hearing other people mention the physical reactions or yeah, response is that they get from interactions. That was a piece that I never really thought about, I guess, but yeah, that I just kind of took away from it. You know.

1:02:53 I had the recording and I shared it with like my mom and my sister. But of course it does not do it justice because it's so I was on the bridge with my phone recording and this thing. I'm not good at judging distance as far as like, you know, how many feet away, but you know, I was in the middle of the bridge and then there's the gate, my car a road, and then it was a little set back in the woods, just on the other side of the car or on the other side of the road, and so it's a lot quieter, and I had to kind of try to enhance the recording, and it sounds I called it the siuse law who because in the recording it sounds almost like a who instead of a sigh.

1:03:41 But in person, I heard like it seemed so much more drawn out, like a longer sound, and I heard the pitch tone like three times. Like it doesn't do it justice. But anyways, I have the recording of it, and it was the most intense thing I think I've experienced the date, and I've been a little too afraid to go back by myself since then. But I want to muster up the courage to go back out there, because that's what I was hoping for. It's just you just don't expect yourself, you know. It's like until you experience something like more than you ever thought you would, it's like it just doesn't really set in that, you know, how that can affect you, and trying to like overcome the fearful side of it and stay calm and collected, or to return even and try to experience more. So, yeah, it's kind of wild.

1:04:41 That's that's absolutely wild. Then it's another example of where something responded to you almost immediately, which is really really cool. Yeah. Yeah, I didn't think about it that way. But yeah, is that the audio that you had sent over to me? Yes? It is? Should we should we try to put it in? Are you okay with that? Yeah? Totally fine. Maybe just like heads up to people if they have hadphones on the white noise can be a little bit loud, but yeah, yeah, go for it. Yeah, good call on that. I'm gonna play it through three times. It's it's quick, but you can always rewind as well. So here we go. Man, knowing the context of that sound now is incredible just thinking of the story you just told.

1:05:39 Wow, it was. Yeah. When I listened to that audio, I'm like, because it just doesn't do it justice. You know. I had to like I have to like sit in my brain and think, Okay, this is how it sounded in the moment, like remember that because that well, just thinking about that will give me chills. And I even you know, I didn't have phone service out there, but I found a single bar. On the drive home. I couldn't make it home before I had to call my mom and I told her what happened. And as I was telling her, I got like emotional, which was so weird, like it just popped up out of nowhere, Like I just started getting emotional, like and it wasn't really the fear.

1:06:20 It just like I think I was in just complete shock. And it was like things I've heard, you know, through other people that put out content or whatever, and it was like I heard that in real life. And I think I was just in awe that that happened to me. It seems like something that very few people get to hear and yeah, I was just in shock. It is. It's very strange when as humans we you know, start to look for certain things. And maybe there's old saying that has been said to me over the last few years and maybe even you too, where it's like, be careful what you wish for. When that actually when things start to change and you start to experience things, it is a thing where it gets you get very emotional and it is hard to deal with, especially in the moment. I had some things happen out in Oakridge, and it's really hard to control how you respond in that moment. So yeah, I totally I totally get it.

1:07:34 Yeah, and it can take you there, Yeah, it can take you off guard. And I think it might have even been in like Tobe's book or an interview he was saying. But someone that he went out with and they were trying to walk in the direction of a sound, and this guy he was with was typically kind of like a tough manly man, and how he just like was immediately just had so much fear rush over him, almost to the point of tears, and he was like upset, and I was like, oh my gosh, that's I mean. I wasn't like upset, but I was just the same thing, and I was like, oh, other people are experiencing like physical reactions to this, and that's just the side of it that I didn't really think about before. So it's yeah, really.

1:08:24 Interesting having experienced that. Now, what is your viewpoint towards that area? Is it that you want to go back a lot or be like man, maybe maybe. Not, or I do. The timing was a little bit unfortunate because I just kind of started a new career and then I moved also down to Cottage Grove. So at the time I was only like, probably I was less than an hour away from the spot, and now I'm probably more like an hour and a half hour and forty five minutes. It's so it's not as easy to access, like time wise and stuff for me. But I want to make a point to go back out there because I felt like, you know, I didn't feel like I was in danger or anything. I just knew it was my own fear bubbling up to the service.

1:09:19 So a part of me also wanted to work on trying to I don't know how I could do that, but other than just getting out there, but trying to work on, you know, staying I guess grounded and not let my emotions, you know, take over and make me want to leave sort of a thing. But I know I would love to go out there and continue like gifting and maybe trying to car camp overnight there. And I'm not opposed to like bringing a friend with me or like I've been back out there since then with my mom, and I brought my sister out there one time, and we've heard some interesting stuff. But like I tend to not mention this one as much because of course it's easy to you know, our brains can sometimes see things or mess with us a little bit. But then one of the nights I brought my mom back up there with me, and it was dark, but there was a little bit of moonlight kind of shining through, you know, the forest a little bit. And we're standing out there and I'm looking in the direction of this, like I can see the outline of like this big trunk tree, and just to the right of it, I'm like squinting my eyes and looking because I notice like a shape and I just perfectly see like this head shoulders and then straight down and I'm looking and I'm like, there's no way,

1:10:49 like I think my mind's playing tricks on me, because if that is something, it is massive, like really big, and it's not very That was probably less than fifty feet from us. If I was guessing, I'm not the best of that. But and so I didn't say anything to my mom. I just said, hey, can we go sit in the car for a second, because in case it was something, I instantly just got freaked out. And then we sat in the car and listened for a bit. I calmed down and I was like, Okay, I'm going to get back out, like I'm trying to kind of recentered. And I go back to that same spot and I look for that tree in that spot where I saw a head and shoulders. There was nothing there. It was like an open spot back lit by the moonlight, and there was so in that moment, I was like, Okay, maybe I did see the silhouette of something there, but I can't be totally for sure if my eyes were just adjusting in playing tricks. But I was almost certain that I saw a silhouette there.

1:11:57 And I mean, that's the other weird thing, because it's like we get to the point where we're like we want to see stuff like that, but then when it happened, we're like our logic side tries to kick in really hard and it's like, yeah, there's no way that this is actually happening. It's got to be this or it's got to be a bear. And it gets really really weird, that back and forth between what I call like the logical side and the bigfoot side. Just yeah, yeah, because it's good to keep that, but like, yeah, it can become kind of a gray area sometimes. So your mom didn't didn't say anything, though, sounds like.

1:12:41 She no. She heard some you know, we'd hear like stick breaks and sounds like something walking around us in the woods. But she got creeped out because in the distance we actually heard bard owls and I don't know if you've heard them go off, but they almost sound a little bit like a monkey, and it sounded like babies in a nest and I instantly knew what it was when it went off. But that freaked her out, and she's like, what is that? Like I and I tried to tell her. I was like it's okay, like those are barred out, and she went and sat in the car for a minute. But she was able to like come back out and hang out for a bit.

1:13:24 And she's she's fun to go and listen with. She'll just kind of be quiet and listen to all the sounds with me. And yeah, she's a fun one to go big fitting with. And so this is a this is a pretty recent thing. So this is like now we're we're pretty much this this all is happening current day. It sounds like, yeah, I have I think the last time I went out was maybe in May, and I just wanted to go out there and see if like the area had changed. And I have a dog now, so I brought my dog out with me and nothing, you know, it kind of looked the same. It looked like they were utilizing that road again because the bridge was totally cleaned off, but the gate was still closed.

1:14:12 And then I didn't really pick up on any noises out there, and I think that's pretty normal for the daytime. It's just kind of like the bird sounds. But no, my plan is to maybe do an overnight car camp out there if I can make it, and I'll probably bring a friend with me just so that I'm not like as easily freaked out and try to work on that. It feels a little safer when you're camping in your car versus a tent. Right, But yeah, I think that's a smart idea too, definitely, just to have that other person with you. Does your dog react in any weird ways? When you're out there with the dog, he'll perk.

1:14:52 Up to sounds and things, but he didn't out there. He was just kind of more interested in sniffing around. And there was a moment where he was kind of looking across the other side of the bridge towards like the woods that way, and he was focused on something for a minute, and I kind of watched over there with him, but I didn't see anything, and I didn't hear anything, But maybe he was picking up on stuff that I just couldn't see or hear. But yeah, another time I've been there, I actually heard this sound. It was the daytime, just sitting on the bridge from like almost below us. It kind of sounded like it's a weird thing to hear, but like I literally pictured it in my head as I listened to it. It was another metallic sound, but it sounded like somebody had put rocks inside of a like metal cage kind of thing, like a you know, kind of a woven mesh metal cage thing and we're just like shaking it almost like a Morocca kind of thing where you just heard like the but like rocks falling into each other and stuff inside of it, is what it sounded like to me.

1:16:06 I heard it three times and I thought that was a peculiar kind of out of place sound. But yeah, I don't know what that was. And there weren't other people around us. We were just pretty much just us and the birds out. There, So that is very interesting. You mentioned you're done in Cottage Grove. Have you ever talked to Tobe about any places you might be able to check out down there in Cottage Grove? Since who's really really familiar with it. Yeah, definitely. And Jeff two, I'm just like my time is like tends to be limited to the weekends, and Jeff and I have actually gone out into the woods and we haven't had too much happen. We did kind of a a daytime trip out into the woods and we did an evening I think it was last Sunday, and it's kind of just turned into us like sharing our own personal stories and you know, talking about the topics.

1:17:14 But hopefully, like you know some we'll get some stuff down the line, but I just I'm limited because I drive like a Prius and so my car does not really handle some of the back roads that well. So I kind of either have to like hitch a ride and line it up with one of them or with Jeff or wait till I have kind of a four wheel drive option. But yeah, and I plan on making it too. Tobes putting together that the Olympic Strange Days. I don't know if you've heard about that, but I'm planning to attend that as long as I can find either hitch a ride or or find a rig that I could drive, because those roads get pretty gnarly. But yeah, planning to get out into the woods more and kind of just dive a little deeper into all of this because it's, you know, when I have my free time, that's what I want to be doing.

1:18:20 Alicia, thank you for coming on the show and sharing what you've experienced over the last few years. Definitely keep us in the loop with what goes on in the future in this area that you've found. It sounds very interesting and there could be some really cool things that happen from it. Yeah, definitely I will hopefully maybe in a year from now or something, I'll have plenty of activity or experiences to share with you. Thank you. Have you ever heard all the accounts of bigfoot activity around Oakridge, Oregon and you think to yourself, Man, I would love to get out in those woods and experience it for myself. Well, guess what this year you can.

1:19:06 If this is interesting to you, stay tuned because it's pretty cool. Sasquatch Summer Fest is coming up July tenth through the eleventh, twenty twenty six. It's going to be even better than the previous year's. Reason number one, I'll be one of the speakers. It's gonna be wild. I'll probably I'll say this, there may be stuff you haven't heard anywhere else, because let's just say sometimes it's well, you just got to be there. We'll leave at that. More about looking for Bigfoot in the Oakridge Woods. Now check this out. You may know Jason Kenzie from his documentary series Searching for Sasquatch. Well, this year you can not only go to the festival, but you can also sign up for a track Deep in the Wild Forest outside of Oakridge with Jason Kenzie to the Bigfoot spots to look for Bigfoot. There's only eight spots to sign up for this, and yes, this will also be filmed for the next chapter in his documentary series, which is Searching for Sasquatch. This is a once in a lifetime deal.

1:20:21 It's just trust it's going to be a wild, wild experience. To get a ticket, head on over to Sasquatch Summerfest dot com and listeners can use the code b sp like Bigfoot Society Podcast in order to get a two day pass for the price of a one day pass. So thanks to Priscilla for giving me that code so that you guys can can get a little a little help with the costs there. Appreciate that, Priscilla. I hope to see you at the booth in Oakridge this year. We can talk about your encounter. Was able to talk to so many people last year and the year before.

1:21:06 It is an incredible time. You're not going to want to miss it, and I'll see you there. Before we wrap this episode, I want to say something directly to a very specific group of listeners. If you're in the military, any branch or forces, and if you've seen something that no one can explain, or if you're a National park ranger or forestry worker who's been told to stay quiet, or if you're a pilot who's seen something strange down on the ground, or if you're with the FBI a federal agency, or working intelligence and you've stumbled upon something you're not allowed to talk about. And if you're a firefighter, paramedic, or search and rescue responder who's heard screams or found tracks that didn't make sense. If you're in the logging industry on a remote oil field, or a trucker with government contracts and you've had something happen that you've never told.

1:21:58 A soul biologist, a wildlife specialist, or a field researcher under contract who has found evidence you're not allowed to report. If you're a pastor, a missionary, or someone on a spiritual retreat and you saw something that shook your faith, or if you work in the shadows, CIA, NSA or anything with clearance and you've seen what the public hasn't, then I want to talk to you, even if it's anonymous. You can reach me at Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com. The world needs to hear what you've been forced to carry alone and you're not alone. You've got the story, We've got the mic see you in the woods. Thank you for listening to this episode of The Bigfoot Society Podcast.

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