June 1, 2026

MASSIVE BLACK BIGFOOT TERRORIZES TEEN IN THE ARKANSAS OZARKS

MASSIVE BLACK BIGFOOT TERRORIZES TEEN IN THE ARKANSAS OZARKS
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At 14 years old, Josh Smith from the Mysteries Unknown podcast looked out the window of his family home in the Arkansas Ozarks and saw a massive black figure standing in the tree line watching him.


Seconds later, it walked directly up to the house.


Years after burying the memory, another terrifying roadside encounter with a gigantic white creature brought everything flooding back. In this intense episode of Bigfoot Society, Josh shares the encounters that changed his life forever and the strange experiences that led him to create Mysteries Unknown.


You’ll hear:
• A face-to-face Bigfoot encounter only feet from the house
• A second sighting near a remote shell pit in the Ozarks
• A shocking white creature crossing directly over his car
• Strange patterns connected to the Ozark Triangle
• Dogman encounters and unexplained paranormal activity
• The emotional reality of living with these experiences


These are the stories people carry for decades before finally speaking out.


If you’re fascinated by real eyewitness encounters, deep Ozark mysteries, and the unknown lurking in America’s wild places, this episode will stay with you long after it ends.

Resources:

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And here's the thought. Hey, I'm this creature you shot

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all those years ago, and here's the thing that's interesting

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to me. Jeremi's it said, when I get permission, you're

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the first person I'm taking out.

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You're listening to Bigfoot Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron. In

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this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to bring

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you first hand encounters from people who say they've seen

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something impossible. From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers to

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quiet farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere,

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and each one leaves us with more questions than answers.

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These are the voices of the people who've lived it.

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So settle in because today you'll hear another account that

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just might change the way you see the woods forever.

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So stay with us, all right, Dick for Society, welcome back.

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We've got the privilege of having mister Josh Smith from

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Mysteries Unknown on the show today. If you're listening on

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the audio side, you definitely want to make sure you

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go or to the YouTube side because this is definitely

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a video one.

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But welcome to the show, Josh. How are you, ser man?

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I'm good, it's an honor to be here, Jeremiah, thanks

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for having me.

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Man, dude, I man, I've been wanting to get this

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set up, and actually it just it's kind of worked

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worked at worked out a few days ago and we're like,

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let's get it going.

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But man, just to talk.

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About I am, well, I've had I've had Daniel on

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the show. Of course, you know our Dano, you're your

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co host over there sometimes at Mysteries Unknown, and he's

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got the Crypti podcast as well. I'm like, man, I

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gotta get josh on. And you know it's not just

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because that you are. I would say you've got a

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great podcast in a very similar niche If listeners on

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the big Foot Society side have not listened to Mysteries Unknown,

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you need to because it's got the big Foot encounters,

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but it's also got other encounters too. And so when

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I was driving down Tennessee a few weeks ago, I

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was like, man on board I got and I was like, oh,

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I can listen to stuff.

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I don't have to edit. I'm just driving.

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So I tossed on some Mysteries Unknown, and it was

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crazy because the episode I was listening to was like

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thirty minutes away from where I was.

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Yeah, and I was like, wow, this is so cool.

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I get what listeners go through when they experience that.

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It's very very cool. You do a fantastic job your

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video as well as set up is probably I would

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say it's up there for the top. I mean, you're good.

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You're good at the video, you rocket man. But so

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so all that to say that I love your show

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as well, and I would highly recommend that listeners on

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my side check it out on You're on YouTube, and

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you're also on like Spotify and stuff like that too, right, Josh, Yeah, yeah.

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Both those are the two places you can find me

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for sure.

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Awesome, awesome, it's it's a good good time. It's a

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good time.

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And also you do lives on YouTube and it's one

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of the one of the most fun lives.

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I always try to I'm in there a lot.

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Sometimes I'm not saying anything because I like to just

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see stuff.

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Happen, how it happens. It's a fun time. If you

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get what I mean.

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Do that, Yeah, exactly, But Josh, I would love to

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hear You've got to have a wild story about how

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you got into this, man.

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Oh, it's absolutely wild.

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Man.

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First of all I want to say, thanks for the

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kind of words man. I I you're one of the

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first voices that popped up for me when I started

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to get into the bigfoot stuff. And your show is fantastic.

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It's a staple of the community. So coming from you, man,

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that means a lot. And I really appreciate it. Bro,

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you got some good stuff. Man, You've done a lot

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for the for the bigfoot community, and so it's honored

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to be here. So I appreciate your time. And yeah,

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I've had some some wild experiences and definitely happen to

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get into whatever you want to talk about.

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Man, that's and thank you and and so what I'm

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curious about, So did you did you grow up where

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you're one of these guys where you're like, oh, I'm

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watching like in search of and like bigfoots all around

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or did you have an experience where like it just

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launched you into this.

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Man, I've always been adventurous at heart. You know, my

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dad is a is an adventurous person. So we grew

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up in that that mind frame of of there's more

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out there than we know. I remember as a kid,

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I stay up on that listening to art Bell from

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Coast to coast had a massive impact on me, but

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to me, Bigfoot. All I knew about Bigfoot growing up

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in the eighties was that's a monster truck. Like I

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didn't know really what Bigfoot was. And my first like

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dive off into that world as we went to my

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grandparents' house to watch all I knew it was a

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show about Bigfoot, and I'm thinking, you know, monster truck

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and we get there and it's Legend of Boggy Creek,

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you know, and I'm like, what is this?

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You know?

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And I remember on the ride home, I was like twelve,

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just being absolutely terrified of like what is that? You know?

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How is that even real? What is that? And so

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that was kind of my first introduction to the bigfoot world.

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But I've always been open minded to things we don't understand.

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And then fast forward to two years later, fourteen years old,

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I had my first encounter and it just completely changed

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the trajectory of my life. And here I am today,

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and it's such a strange world we live in, you know,

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how it is. Sitting in this chair, you hear things

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all the time and you have to be open minded

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to it because people are experiencing stuff that you just

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can't explain. And that happened to me. I just never

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thought it would. But yeah, fourteen years old, man, that's

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the first time I saw one of these things.

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Well fourteen years old.

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Is that something I know that some individuals they might

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not want to get into it. But is that a

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story where you're at the point where you can share

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what happened to you that day?

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One hundred percent, man, I'm happy to dive right into it.

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I grew up in a small town in the Ozarks,

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close to the Ozark National Forest and spend all my

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time as a kid in the woods. I mean that's

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what we did. You know, you would leave in the mornings,

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and you knew home to be home for lunch, and

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you knew home to be at home at dark. But

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fourteen years old, we lived on this property, my dad

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kind of homestead of this land, and he built this

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home from scratch, and we spit all over time outside

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and you know, they started to leave me home alone

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that age. You know, you kind of life starts changing

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and they give you more responsibilities. And so they were gone.

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It was it was one nine. It had to be

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there in the winter time because it was probably five

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six o'clock and it had gotten dark early, and the

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area that I live at was really roll at the time,

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and there wasn't a whole lot of street lights. There

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wasn't a whole lot of you know, lights out there

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other than just natural lights sun, I mean, stars, moon,

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things like that. But this particularly night, I was in

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my kitchen and I just remember leaving my kitchen and

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you walk kind of like a U shape from the

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kitchen to the living room, and at the end of

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the living room there's a stairway to the left. That'll

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make sense in a little bit, but at the end

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of that there's sliding glass windows, and I just was

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walking from the kitchen to there and they were open,

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there was no curtains, and I just happened to look

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over to the right. Something caught my attention. I thought

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about this a lot, like why did I happen to

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look that way? But I did, and probably, like I'm

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not a good judge of distances, but I would say

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fifty seventy feet yards away, whatever you want to say,

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there's this black, massive figure and it's just standing there

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in the tree line. There's a ditch there, there's a

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fence line there, and then past that, just to give

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you the lay of the land. Past that, there's a

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huge open field railroad tracks in the Arkansas River, so

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it's kind of rule. Lots of places for these things

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to be. And this thing is just standing there and

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it's this black, massive figure, biggest thing I've ever seen,

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and it's just there and I freeze, like I completely freeze,

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and I'm standing there and it's standing there, and I

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can't tell you the amount of time that was spent

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in that position or how long it stood there. But

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the next thing I know, to my horror, this thing

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comes from that tree line up to the back of

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the house. And there was a deck that my dad

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had built, and the deck was probably six feet off

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the ground. From the bottom of the deck to the

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top railing, there was about a six foot drop. But

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this thing's upper body mass was above that deck and

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it was it was massive. I until you've seen one

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of these, you don't understand how big they really are,

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like the the broadness of it, whatever words you want

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to use. And so I can't see any details. All

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I know is it's black, it's massive, it's standing there

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looking at me, and I don't know what to do

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with this. I'm just in shock, like I don't know

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what to do. And I don't remember the amount of

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time that passed between know when this first started and

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when I broke my eyes from it the gaze I

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had on it. But I just remember standing there and

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I get this thought that pops in my head to

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go grab my dad's shotgun. That's the first thing I remember.

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And the second thing I remember is the amount of

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And I catched some flak on my show for this

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because I it's my worldview, right, this really shaped houseee

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these things, But the feelings that were coming off of

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this creature was just pure evil. It hated me. It

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was like a promo. That's not even the right word.

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I've struggled. I've still not come up with the right

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word for it, but it's a very like pure hatred

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type of a feeling. It was not happy that I

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was standing there, and I knew instinctively that if I

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was outside, I would not be here. I had those

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kind of a that kind of a feeling, and so

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I go upstairs and I grabbed my dad's shotgun. It

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was a four to ten shotgun. You know, we hunted,

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We spent all of our time out in the woods.

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It's just what we did. And I come downstairs and

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it's still standing there. But my dad had told me

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long time ago that if you ever feel threatened somebody

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tries to break in, grab a shotgun, they're not gonna

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question you. They're just and load it in front of

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them if you have to, you know, let them see

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you load that shotgun, and they're just gonna they'll leave

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you alone. But so that was running through my head,

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and I had a probably it's a probably buckshot probably

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or a slug loaded the thing. And as soon as

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I did that, this thing turned around like this and

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just like I mean, it was almost like it just

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turned its body and it left. But the weird thing

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is is is this thing didn't have an up and

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down gate movement when it left either when it came

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to me either. It glided and that comes up sometimes,

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right you hear that, Like that's and that's why I

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think maybe sometimes there's no prints. I don't understand all that.

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But this thing just like it was a smooth glide.

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There was no up and down gate like a bipedal

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creature would do. And it walked off into that tree

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line and was just gone. And you know, it made

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a huge impact on me. I buried that. You know,

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I never told my mom, I never told my dad

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until years like later, but really shaped my view of

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the world, especially now. And you know, really I've thought

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about it so many times. You know, why me, Why

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did that happen? Why did it choose to come up

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to the back of the house. There's so many questions,

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you know that you you try to figure out. You're

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never gonna get answers for these things. But it's just

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this loop that you get caught in, you know.

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So that's my first encounter that is that is wild.

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I can't I'm trying to put myself into the mindset.

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I mean, fourteen years old, that is so wild. So

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and I know you mentioned an estimate of length or

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distance away. Sometimes on my show, what I'll do is,

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you know you can you can picture, like what the

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length of a tennis court is.

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Right, Yeah, for sure?

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Would you say it was longer than that away or

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maybe a few was.

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Yeah, when I first saw it, it was probably two

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two of those. Probably it was a pretty deep good

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distance away. Now the deck probably from the sliding glass

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doors to the end of the deck was probably ten

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feet maybe. So this thing was about ten feet from

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me when it's standing there looking at me. So it

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was fairly close. And you know, I'm really aware that

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if it wanted to get me, it could have, like

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I know that, I know it could have just whatever.

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But but it was fairly close.

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Man.

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Man, that's wild.

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And you're saying, so you could see through it was

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the door open or you could just see through it.

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Yeah, it was just it was just sliding glass. Uh,

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it wasn't open. There was no curtains, it was just

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and there was no screen on the other side of either,

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so it was just glass. So I got a really

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good look at the silhouette of this thing and it

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was just I still to this day struggle with knowing

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where to put that, what to do with it. Even

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though we talk about this every day, we hear about

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these encounters every single day, it still boggles my mind

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as a kid, what are you supposed to do with that?

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You know? And I think that's where I started to

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pick up these copa mechanisms of of you know, dumping trauma,

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burying it, which would come into play learnl in my

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life in my law enforcement career, because you really learned

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to do that in the moment, and that's been a thing,

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like pieces of this puzzle come back to me. Even

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still now I have little bits of pieces that my

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brain is buried, and it'll just come back to me.

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It's why sometimes with my channel, if you look at

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my store when I first told it versus now, there's

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a little more information because it's every time I tell it,

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I remember another piece of the puzzle.

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You know so exactly.

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And what I've found is also is when you talk

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to so many people, like we do, your your mindset

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and what you pick up starts to change and then

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you're like, oh, well, well that's an interesting thing to

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think about. I never thought about that, And I let

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me think about what happened to me again, and that's

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why stuff kind of comes out right. But so, man,

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how did that affect you as a fourteen year old afterwards?

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Did you have a conversation with your parents or I.

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Carried that by myself. Man, I didn't tell anybody. I

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didn't tell a soul. And it's funny because about a

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year later I had another encounter. Right, But those two

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encounters I buried until about seven years ago. I mean,

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I have major time loss I struggled with like times

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and how long ago things happened. But I somewhere five

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or six seven years ago I had another incident. Last

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time I saw what I'd say, Bigfoot triggered all those memories.

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And so from the time I was probably sixteen until

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six years ago in my early forties, I just completely

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buried it. My brain has done a great job of

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protecting me that way, and when I had this last encounter,

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it triggered it and brought all those memories up. And

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then I started to talk about it. But you know,

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for years I didn't. But I will say that one

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thing that has really made me, it's troubled me, I

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guess is the right word. But my neighbor I hadn't

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seen her since like the sixth grade, and she grew

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up right like literally two houses down from me, and

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so she could walk from her backyard to the field

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and come around to my backyard. She's the same age

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as I am. And she said that she found me

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because of the channel, found me on Facebook, looked me up,

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and she's like, if you ever had anything weird happened

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to you when you were a kid growing up there?

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And I was like, yeah, oddly enough, you know, I

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had and she goes, well, when I was seven, I

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had an encounter with this creature with Bigfoot, and it

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was standing at the back of your property watching your

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house at seven years old. So here's where my mind

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goes with that. So that means that from the ages

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of seven to fourteen, this thing was on my property

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right and it's watching my house specifically because that's where

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it was when she saw it. But I've got major

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gaps in my memory from seven to fourteen, and I

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mean major, major gaps where I don't remember times, I

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don't remember things that you would normally remember that are

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just gone. So it makes me wonder if at that

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age I had seen this thing prior to that, and

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I just can't remember because there are some major time

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gaps there, And it just makes me wonder, you know,

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if there's more to that story that I just can't

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can't remember.

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You know, oh absolutely, What was it like when you

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heard from her that account of what she saw on

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the edge of your property? What did that do to

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you emotionally?

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It's very Number one, it's very validating because you have

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this imposter syndrome, you know where your brain will be like,

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did you really, like, did that really happen? You know,

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of course I know it did. I was there. I

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have very clear memberies of that. But for me, it

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was very validating and I'm like, I'm not the only

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one there that saw that. I know that. When we

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talk to people on the show, one of the biggest

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things they tell me is like, hey, I don't fill alone. Now.

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I feel like somebody else can coroborate my story. They

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know that I'm telling the truth. And that's what it

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did for me. I was like, man, this is this

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is good. I needed to hear that. And so it

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was very like it was healing for me because we

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talked about it, you know, we exchanged stories and it

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was a it was a good thing. But it just

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kind of it blew my mind that this thing was

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there from seventeen or sorry even to fourteen, and I

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wonder how many times I maybe run into it and

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I just don't remember, you.

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Know, my goodness.

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So you mentioned that you held that with you for

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so long. Have you ever gotten or I guess I

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could say, did you ever then get a chance to

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discuss any of this with your parents?

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I don't.

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I don't even know if your parents are with us still.

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Yeah, I'm fortunate that both my parents are here. And

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it's funny enough, like my parents are big fans of

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Bigfoot now. And you know, when I started the channel,

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I didn't tell anybody, you know, I just didn't say

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a word to any family members that I had started it.

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And so I started to talk about this and the

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channel started to get some some growth. I thought, you know,

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I'm gonna have to sit down down and talk to them,

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and I did, and they were very like my dad

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wasn't surprised at all, you know, because my dad had

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a UFO encounter when I was five, and I was

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in the car when that happened. And my dad's a

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very straight lest, straight laced, matter of fact, top of

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a guy, you know, And so you can take it

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to the bank if my dad tells you something and so,

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and then you start thinking about this whole word that

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comes up about being tagged, like if you've got one encounter,

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the odds have seen another one come up. And if

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you look at my life, that's played out. But so

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I told them, and then the odd thing to me

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is my mom has never seen anything other than she

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was in the car with with that when we had

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that encounter in the UFO encounter, but she told me,

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she goes, you know, it kind of makes sense because

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your dad built that house for me. I love the house,

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but the area always creeped me out because I never

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felt safe there. Now we know why, right. So though,

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even even though like I carried that for her, that

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gave her this validation of like, hey, those feelings were

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probably spot on, there was something there, and so yeah,

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they were very open to it, believed me. Supported me.

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Some fortunate in that way because I talked to a

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lot of people that don't have that, right. There are

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people in my family. The first time I shared it,

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they laughed it off, and that really kind of like

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bothered me for a long time. But having that kind

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of support is important, and that's kind of what birth

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the Whost Show for me is. I wanted to give

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that to people.

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And so, yeah, awesome, dude, I'm so glad you were

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able to have conversations like that with your parents. So

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you have that encounter at fourteen, and then it sounds

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like then you had something else happen a year or

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so after.

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Is that something you can share as well?

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Yeah? Absolutely, man, So, like I said, we grew up

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those our National Force close to it, really rule. And

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there was a main highway that ran kind of in

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front of our house. And somehow, my dad, I don't

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know how you did it still this day. Shut up

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with a four wiler, you know, and you give a

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fifteen year old kid a fo wiler, that's freedom, right.

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So sometime between that first encounter and that I pushed

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through knowing what this thing was, and then it was

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out there and I would ride that four whiler absolutely everywhere.

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There was a group of us that would always get together.

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We all rode. We would be all over the place.

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In Arkansas, there's a lot of rocks. So there was

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a rock querry or a shell pit that we had

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found probably less than a mile and a half two

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miles from our house, and so we we were all riding.

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We found this this pit, and in the middle of

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this pit there was a spare tire and a chain

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or a rope, I don't remember which one. But if

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you know what's going to happen with a tire and

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a rope and a full whiler, we're gonna, like, you know,

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have some fun. And so we would tie it to

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the back of the full whiler man, and we would

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do three sixties and sling each other around. And we

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would do that all the time. We would go out

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there to this pit and do this conk all the time,

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and it was different back then. You could do that.

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Now you probably get shot, but back then you could

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do that and people would mess with you. And so

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we did that. And there was two or three of

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us there on this particular day, and that pit was

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probably six foot deep estimation, and so around it were trees.

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There was one entrance in and one out, and we

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would just get in there and do our thing. And

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so it was I probably had to be on Saturday

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or a Sunday, and we were doing this and I

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was either off of my foiler on it, I can't remember,

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and we are facing the exit. I remember my fouriler

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was facing the exit of this interest to this pit,

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and I just have look over my shoulder and here

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comes this thing out of the tree line, the same thing.

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It had to be the same thing. It was the

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same type of feeling. It just comes out of the

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tree line and standing there on the edge of the

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shell pit looking at me. And I didn't stay around

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long enough to figure anything out. I didn't even say

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a word to my buddies. I just got on my foiler,

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we jetted, we all took off out of there. And

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that was the second time i'd seen it. So it

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was about a year later, and I'm guesstimating but some

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about a year later. And so that encounter didn't last

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but probably you know, less than a minute, if that right.

463
00:21:34.920 --> 00:21:37.240
I didn't like stick around. I didn't whatever. I just

464
00:21:37.319 --> 00:21:40.559
saw it, knew it was there, and left. And so

465
00:21:42.279 --> 00:21:45.559
I that's kind of when my memory gets a little fuzzy.

466
00:21:45.680 --> 00:21:49.839
I don't really remember anything else happening until, you know,

467
00:21:50.000 --> 00:21:53.079
seven years ago the last time I saw something. The

468
00:21:53.119 --> 00:21:55.039
strange thing about this whole thing that's happened to me

469
00:21:55.119 --> 00:21:58.279
is my dad UFO encounter. My encounters all happened with

470
00:21:58.440 --> 00:22:00.640
like a two and a half mile radius maybe three,

471
00:22:01.519 --> 00:22:04.680
of this one particular region close to thosearks, right, So

472
00:22:04.720 --> 00:22:07.880
there's just this strange stuff that goes on all around here.

473
00:22:07.920 --> 00:22:11.640
And so that was my second encounter. There's not much

474
00:22:11.640 --> 00:22:15.079
to it, but I think it was something that it

475
00:22:15.160 --> 00:22:17.319
was just standing there watching me. You know, It's just

476
00:22:17.319 --> 00:22:19.759
what it always did for whatever reason. I don't even

477
00:22:19.839 --> 00:22:22.240
know why. But yeah, it's pretty wild.

478
00:22:22.400 --> 00:22:26.400
That's really creepy because I'm just trying to imagine it.

479
00:22:26.440 --> 00:22:28.920
And so you said, you're in a six foot deep

480
00:22:29.039 --> 00:22:34.400
pit right with the vehicles, and you look up and

481
00:22:34.480 --> 00:22:39.319
so then you're looking like straight up and then it's there.

482
00:22:39.640 --> 00:22:42.720
So do you see like the feet in the legs

483
00:22:42.759 --> 00:22:44.039
at first or like.

484
00:22:45.000 --> 00:22:47.440
So it's what's weird about it. It's like the same

485
00:22:47.559 --> 00:22:49.319
kind of feeling I had when I saw it, like

486
00:22:49.359 --> 00:22:51.440
something dreamy to look over to the right and then

487
00:22:51.480 --> 00:22:54.319
it's there. I was facing this way, it was back

488
00:22:54.359 --> 00:22:56.559
behind me, and something just I felt like I needed

489
00:22:56.559 --> 00:22:58.400
to look over my shoulder, and so I looked back

490
00:22:58.799 --> 00:23:00.880
and it's just standing there and it's full body, Like

491
00:23:00.920 --> 00:23:05.039
I see the full body, all of it everything, and

492
00:23:05.079 --> 00:23:09.279
I just next thing, I know, man, I'm flying through

493
00:23:09.319 --> 00:23:12.480
the woods leaving like I don't stick around to try

494
00:23:12.519 --> 00:23:14.839
to get a good look at it. I don't anything.

495
00:23:14.880 --> 00:23:18.079
I just see it standing there, and so I don't

496
00:23:18.119 --> 00:23:20.160
have a whole lot of details, like I see it's

497
00:23:20.240 --> 00:23:23.799
full silhouette body massive. The thing is massive. I I

498
00:23:23.839 --> 00:23:25.680
don't know it was the same one, but it sure

499
00:23:25.720 --> 00:23:27.400
looked as big as the first one that I saw,

500
00:23:27.440 --> 00:23:32.400
Like it was just as big, broad black jet black.

501
00:23:32.559 --> 00:23:35.680
It was black. It wasn't like ambered, it wasn't red. No,

502
00:23:35.759 --> 00:23:40.400
this thing was black. And and so it was the

503
00:23:40.440 --> 00:23:44.279
same type of feeling too, that same like I could,

504
00:23:44.559 --> 00:23:46.799
you know, get you if I wanted you, but I

505
00:23:46.839 --> 00:23:48.759
want you know, I hate you type of a feeling.

506
00:23:48.799 --> 00:23:52.680
And so yeah, man, that was just absolutely wild. And

507
00:23:52.759 --> 00:23:55.440
the funny thing is I've never it's never it never

508
00:23:55.480 --> 00:23:57.519
came up with my buddies. We've never talked about it.

509
00:23:57.599 --> 00:24:00.480
They know what I do. I have one my buddies,

510
00:24:00.480 --> 00:24:02.279
and I'm pretty sure saw it, but he's so closed

511
00:24:02.279 --> 00:24:04.400
off he'll never talk about it. He's just that way.

512
00:24:04.440 --> 00:24:06.880
He's very very private. He's not going to talk about it.

513
00:24:07.640 --> 00:24:13.119
And so that's that's my second encounter. And it's you know,

514
00:24:14.480 --> 00:24:16.720
you wonder like how long was that thing watching us?

515
00:24:16.799 --> 00:24:18.880
Was it following us through the woods? Didn't know where,

516
00:24:18.960 --> 00:24:20.720
you know, all the things, And I'm like, man, how

517
00:24:20.759 --> 00:24:23.440
did it? How did it get across the highway without

518
00:24:23.480 --> 00:24:26.160
anybody seeing it because you have to cross the main

519
00:24:26.200 --> 00:24:28.000
highway to get to the other part where this thing,

520
00:24:28.359 --> 00:24:31.400
where the shell pit was at. So it's just kind

521
00:24:31.400 --> 00:24:35.400
of a weird thing. Man, so weird.

522
00:24:36.039 --> 00:24:41.079
You mentioned something really interesting was that these experiences happened

523
00:24:41.079 --> 00:24:42.640
in a pretty close proximity.

524
00:24:44.480 --> 00:24:47.480
Have you ever taken.

525
00:24:47.200 --> 00:24:51.599
The time to focus on that area and research and

526
00:24:51.640 --> 00:24:55.799
see if you can find any other documented experiences outside

527
00:24:55.839 --> 00:24:57.839
of yours and your relatives.

528
00:24:58.880 --> 00:25:01.920
Yeah, I mean, I'm working a documentary called the Ozark Triangle,

529
00:25:01.920 --> 00:25:03.839
and so I've done a little bit of research. And

530
00:25:04.279 --> 00:25:06.200
one of the things that I did find it, oddly enough,

531
00:25:06.240 --> 00:25:08.359
my sister heard the story from a lady she works with,

532
00:25:09.680 --> 00:25:11.960
but she wasn't willing to come forward and talk about it.

533
00:25:12.000 --> 00:25:15.000
She's passed it along. But they were out and they

534
00:25:15.039 --> 00:25:17.440
were close to the railroad tracks that run right parallel

535
00:25:17.440 --> 00:25:21.200
to the Arkansas River, and they found a footprint ten

536
00:25:21.279 --> 00:25:24.359
inch footprint in you know, close to the railroad tracks

537
00:25:24.400 --> 00:25:28.000
that was out there. That's happened. There's not been a

538
00:25:28.000 --> 00:25:30.799
whole lot of reports that have come forward. But again,

539
00:25:31.799 --> 00:25:34.599
here in this general region, people are pretty cloth clothed

540
00:25:34.640 --> 00:25:36.759
mouse They don't they don't talk a lot about this stuff,

541
00:25:36.799 --> 00:25:38.599
you know, so to get somebody to come forward, it's

542
00:25:38.680 --> 00:25:40.799
kind of a big deal. They don't talk about it

543
00:25:40.839 --> 00:25:45.319
a lot. So I'm sure that there's things, but nobody's

544
00:25:45.359 --> 00:25:47.640
talking about it, you know, not that I've been able

545
00:25:47.680 --> 00:25:49.759
to find, and nothing's come up. I've not been able

546
00:25:49.759 --> 00:25:50.880
to find any other reports.

547
00:25:50.920 --> 00:25:54.480
So well, probably the way it's going to go down,

548
00:25:54.680 --> 00:25:56.359
I would guess, is you're going to come out with

549
00:25:56.400 --> 00:26:00.599
that dock and then that's when you're gonna have to

550
00:26:00.599 --> 00:26:03.880
make a second dog because you'll just get all this stuff.

551
00:26:04.200 --> 00:26:05.960
Oh I saw the doc and they hey, that happened

552
00:26:05.960 --> 00:26:08.200
to me there, and it's like you just gonna get overrun,

553
00:26:08.240 --> 00:26:12.519
which that's how it happens. But yeah, for sure, my goodness,

554
00:26:12.640 --> 00:26:15.039
that is really exciting. Do you have a timeframe of

555
00:26:15.079 --> 00:26:16.160
when that might be released.

556
00:26:17.039 --> 00:26:18.680
I'm hoping by the end of the year. But the

557
00:26:18.759 --> 00:26:21.480
problem is with it right now is and it's kind

558
00:26:21.480 --> 00:26:23.559
of funny what you just said, because I posted the

559
00:26:23.559 --> 00:26:25.480
trailer on TikTok. I don't do a whole lot on there,

560
00:26:25.480 --> 00:26:26.720
but I posted it on there and he just kind

561
00:26:26.720 --> 00:26:29.200
of blew up. And so then after that, I had

562
00:26:29.240 --> 00:26:31.680
several reports sent to me which I actually interviewed these

563
00:26:31.680 --> 00:26:34.160
people and they came on the Channel two dog Man

564
00:26:34.240 --> 00:26:36.519
encounters that I've got to figure out to work that

565
00:26:36.559 --> 00:26:40.319
into the documentary because like, these are probably what's weird

566
00:26:40.319 --> 00:26:44.000
about these dog men encounters is they all happened within

567
00:26:44.319 --> 00:26:46.640
ten minutes of each other, these people, and then that's

568
00:26:46.640 --> 00:26:48.640
where I had my dog man encounter, when I was

569
00:26:48.640 --> 00:26:53.799
out with this guy who had his, which is probably

570
00:26:56.319 --> 00:27:00.160
twenty five minutes from where I grew up. Right, So now, oh,

571
00:27:00.359 --> 00:27:03.000
this little two to three mile radius documentary is now

572
00:27:03.079 --> 00:27:07.680
it's already so I'm having to like go back, I've

573
00:27:07.720 --> 00:27:09.359
got to reshoot things. I've got to figure out how

574
00:27:09.359 --> 00:27:10.839
I'm going to fit all this in because I think

575
00:27:10.880 --> 00:27:13.640
that that's kind of instead of just being about my encounter,

576
00:27:13.680 --> 00:27:16.079
I think it's become more of like it's already turned

577
00:27:16.119 --> 00:27:18.680
into this like, hey, what's going on in the Ozarks? We

578
00:27:19.240 --> 00:27:22.359
need to figure out what's happening. And people are seeing

579
00:27:22.359 --> 00:27:25.759
these things and so yeah, it's a strange place, man,

580
00:27:25.799 --> 00:27:27.839
if you've never been here to experience it, there's a

581
00:27:27.880 --> 00:27:32.160
lot of strangeness that happens here. But it's just wild

582
00:27:32.160 --> 00:27:34.920
to me how sometimes these things are very territorial regional,

583
00:27:35.960 --> 00:27:38.279
and then sometimes they just pass through. But there's definitely

584
00:27:38.359 --> 00:27:39.440
something here for sure.

585
00:27:39.480 --> 00:27:41.039
Oh, I'm excited to see it.

586
00:27:41.079 --> 00:27:41.599
I mean.

587
00:27:43.000 --> 00:27:45.160
I remember I reached out to you the other day

588
00:27:45.160 --> 00:27:47.279
and I was, dude, someone put one of your videos

589
00:27:47.319 --> 00:27:50.480
up on x and like, it's well over a million

590
00:27:50.599 --> 00:27:54.920
views right now, it's got to be. I mean, I

591
00:27:55.039 --> 00:27:57.960
was just like, my goodness, Josh, got to get a

592
00:27:58.039 --> 00:27:58.960
profile over there.

593
00:28:00.160 --> 00:28:02.640
I did right away too, man, I was like, okay, done,

594
00:28:02.720 --> 00:28:05.240
let me go make that cause I just yeah, it's

595
00:28:05.480 --> 00:28:08.160
it's wild to me, you know, like you don't think

596
00:28:08.200 --> 00:28:09.960
about when you start this stuff the impact you have

597
00:28:10.000 --> 00:28:11.640
on people's lives, right, and it's a lot of weight

598
00:28:11.680 --> 00:28:14.720
to carry, but it's it's very humbling, man that people

599
00:28:14.759 --> 00:28:17.440
trust us with their encounters and something so personable. And

600
00:28:17.440 --> 00:28:19.920
I take it really serious. But yeah, man, it's it's

601
00:28:19.960 --> 00:28:22.240
a wild world. This this big poot Crypti world is

602
00:28:22.279 --> 00:28:23.839
absolutely it's crazy.

603
00:28:24.039 --> 00:28:26.680
Some of the things that happen, you know, it is.

604
00:28:28.960 --> 00:28:31.119
That's not something I get to talk a lot on

605
00:28:31.160 --> 00:28:35.799
the show about, but man, I take it serious. And

606
00:28:35.880 --> 00:28:40.039
there have been conversations I've had at festivals for people

607
00:28:40.039 --> 00:28:43.240
that have reached out and that are like, man, the

608
00:28:43.319 --> 00:28:48.200
only reason I'm here is because your show got me through.

609
00:28:48.079 --> 00:28:50.839
And I'm like, oh my goodness, I know, bro, I

610
00:28:50.839 --> 00:28:52.279
do not take that for granted.

611
00:28:52.599 --> 00:28:57.960
You know, you cannot that is such an intense thing. Yeah,

612
00:28:58.000 --> 00:28:59.440
so yeah, I'm right there with you. You know, I

613
00:28:59.680 --> 00:29:05.920
take take this extremely serious. You mentioned that you've had

614
00:29:06.680 --> 00:29:08.960
something else happened. This is about seven years ago.

615
00:29:09.680 --> 00:29:13.680
Yeah, yeah, it's wild. Man, Like, I sound like a

616
00:29:13.680 --> 00:29:15.839
crazy person because I'm over here, like, how can one

617
00:29:15.880 --> 00:29:18.720
person have this many encounters? But I'm telling you there's

618
00:29:18.759 --> 00:29:21.519
something to the whole tag thing. I don't even like

619
00:29:21.559 --> 00:29:23.440
that word, but yeah, you hear it all the time.

620
00:29:23.519 --> 00:29:27.079
So long story short, I was on the highway that

621
00:29:27.160 --> 00:29:29.359
runs in between those two encounters. I had it go

622
00:29:29.480 --> 00:29:32.359
splits it right in front of my house, and I'm

623
00:29:32.359 --> 00:29:34.319
on this highway. It's on a Friday or Saturday night,

624
00:29:34.799 --> 00:29:37.480
and it's raining in Arkansas. When the humidity hits and

625
00:29:37.519 --> 00:29:39.440
it's raining, there's mist on the side of the road.

626
00:29:39.480 --> 00:29:41.640
You know, it's just kind of a really cool look.

627
00:29:42.200 --> 00:29:44.720
It's just everything's got a neat feel to it. But anyways,

628
00:29:44.759 --> 00:29:50.039
I'm rolling down the road and my uncle had built

629
00:29:50.200 --> 00:29:52.759
a church down in this valley over to my left

630
00:29:53.079 --> 00:29:55.880
off of this main highway, and so you could literally

631
00:29:55.920 --> 00:29:58.240
walk from the back of my property all the way

632
00:29:58.240 --> 00:30:00.200
through the woods and make it to his property. They're

633
00:30:00.240 --> 00:30:03.680
kind of connected. You could get there. It's probably if

634
00:30:03.680 --> 00:30:05.640
you're in a car, it's probably five minutes down the road.

635
00:30:06.480 --> 00:30:09.519
So I'm driving, I'm going up the hill and on

636
00:30:09.559 --> 00:30:12.200
the other side there's a steep embankment that comes down

637
00:30:12.519 --> 00:30:14.359
the road and then it drops off again. And so

638
00:30:15.440 --> 00:30:17.720
I was in a Toyota Corolla going about fifty five

639
00:30:18.000 --> 00:30:19.680
and I just happened to look over to the right,

640
00:30:19.920 --> 00:30:22.960
and I see this white thing on the side of

641
00:30:22.960 --> 00:30:25.960
the road. And it happened so fast that I can't

642
00:30:26.000 --> 00:30:27.640
tell you if it was moving or if I just

643
00:30:27.680 --> 00:30:29.200
happen to see it. But the next thing I know,

644
00:30:29.759 --> 00:30:33.599
this thing jumps over the hood of my car. And

645
00:30:33.640 --> 00:30:37.119
it's when I say it's massive. I couldn't see through

646
00:30:37.119 --> 00:30:37.720
my windshield.

647
00:30:37.799 --> 00:30:38.160
Massive.

648
00:30:38.279 --> 00:30:40.720
The whole body mass took up the whole windshield. It

649
00:30:40.799 --> 00:30:45.160
was white, shaggy, dirty hair, like you take a polar

650
00:30:45.160 --> 00:30:46.960
bear and you roll it in the mud. Dirty. But

651
00:30:47.000 --> 00:30:51.000
it had white, shaggy, dirty hair. And this thing takes

652
00:30:51.039 --> 00:30:54.400
one step off, that embankment has gone into the woods. Right,

653
00:30:54.440 --> 00:30:59.279
it's just gone. In my law enforcement instincts kick in.

654
00:30:59.480 --> 00:31:01.480
I just don't even think about it. I just high

655
00:31:01.480 --> 00:31:03.119
tail it down into the woods where this thing is at,

656
00:31:03.160 --> 00:31:05.000
because I can get back into that. I can, you

657
00:31:05.039 --> 00:31:08.039
can drive right to it. So I drive into the woods.

658
00:31:08.319 --> 00:31:10.359
I don't see anything. The weird thing is is there's

659
00:31:10.359 --> 00:31:13.559
no tracks. I don't smell anything. I don't hear anything.

660
00:31:14.119 --> 00:31:16.279
There's no trees that were broken, none of the branches

661
00:31:16.319 --> 00:31:18.440
were snapped off. This thing went right through a thicket.

662
00:31:18.680 --> 00:31:21.759
It's really thick here. The woods are thicker, none of that,

663
00:31:21.960 --> 00:31:25.039
and it's just gone. I don't feel anything, strange, nothing,

664
00:31:26.279 --> 00:31:28.720
And so a couple of days. It took me a

665
00:31:28.759 --> 00:31:32.200
few days, if I remember correctly, But I wake up

666
00:31:32.240 --> 00:31:34.000
and I'm starting to have all these memories, like these

667
00:31:34.039 --> 00:31:36.400
flashback memories of all these things that happened to me

668
00:31:36.440 --> 00:31:39.200
when I was a kid. They encounter at fourteen, and

669
00:31:39.240 --> 00:31:43.559
it's very like hazy, small memories, small things. And as

670
00:31:43.599 --> 00:31:45.920
time went on, I got more bits and pieces to

671
00:31:45.960 --> 00:31:47.839
the information, and I started to talk about it a

672
00:31:47.880 --> 00:31:50.519
little bit, and it's come back to me through the years.

673
00:31:50.519 --> 00:31:53.599
But this thing was massive, Like it wasn't a deer.

674
00:31:53.720 --> 00:31:56.359
We don't have polar bears in Arkansas. We don't have like,

675
00:31:57.079 --> 00:32:00.480
you know, the deer's hair is very short. This was long, shaggy,

676
00:32:00.519 --> 00:32:05.480
dirty hair, and so I think it was connected. I

677
00:32:05.519 --> 00:32:09.079
think it maybe I don't know what to do with

678
00:32:09.119 --> 00:32:11.519
it other than like gets all connected to my story somehow.

679
00:32:11.559 --> 00:32:13.160
And why this thing jumped out in front of me?

680
00:32:14.519 --> 00:32:16.400
Why do they do that? You hear out roadside crossings

681
00:32:16.400 --> 00:32:18.359
all the time, but man, it literally just jumped over

682
00:32:18.440 --> 00:32:20.200
my car like a deer would. It's wild. It was

683
00:32:20.200 --> 00:32:21.880
absolutely wild.

684
00:32:23.319 --> 00:32:26.079
You think it was a potentially a big foot or

685
00:32:26.079 --> 00:32:26.960
maybe something else.

686
00:32:27.920 --> 00:32:30.079
I think it's a big foot. And I was talking

687
00:32:30.079 --> 00:32:32.880
to was on Tony Merkle's show, probably like I don't know,

688
00:32:32.920 --> 00:32:34.880
two months ago, three months ago, and we were talking

689
00:32:34.880 --> 00:32:37.279
and he stopped me and he's like, I think that

690
00:32:37.359 --> 00:32:39.799
steals our calor. He's like, he connected me with a

691
00:32:39.839 --> 00:32:42.400
guy that had an encounter with something white that described

692
00:32:42.559 --> 00:32:46.160
just like what I saw, almost almost the same thing.

693
00:32:46.319 --> 00:32:48.240
And so I've thought about that a lot. So it's

694
00:32:49.240 --> 00:32:51.680
you know, I don't know. I know it was as

695
00:32:51.680 --> 00:32:55.440
big as a big foot. I can't tell you details.

696
00:32:55.440 --> 00:32:58.880
I can just tell you it was massive, big, huge,

697
00:32:59.079 --> 00:33:02.279
absolutely huge. And I will say I interviewed a guy

698
00:33:03.240 --> 00:33:04.559
about a year and a half ago, and he was

699
00:33:04.559 --> 00:33:09.279
from Montana, and he was a tribal leader, and he

700
00:33:09.440 --> 00:33:12.240
told me in their culture that as they get old,

701
00:33:12.960 --> 00:33:16.920
they lose the pigmentation in their coats in their culture,

702
00:33:17.079 --> 00:33:19.680
and they also lose their eyesight, which is probably why

703
00:33:19.680 --> 00:33:22.359
he thinks it jumped out in front of the car. Now,

704
00:33:22.400 --> 00:33:25.000
I don't think these things are just flesh and blood.

705
00:33:25.000 --> 00:33:27.119
So I don't even know where I land with with that,

706
00:33:27.839 --> 00:33:30.000
but it's interesting to think about. I definitely think it

707
00:33:30.039 --> 00:33:34.680
was encryptid for sure, and I think that there's I

708
00:33:35.599 --> 00:33:37.319
don't know why, man, what are the odds of that thing,

709
00:33:37.400 --> 00:33:39.039
you know, doing that? But if that hadn't never happened,

710
00:33:39.079 --> 00:33:40.880
I don't know how long I'd have went on without

711
00:33:40.960 --> 00:33:43.839
like this trigger in my memory. I wouldn't be sitting

712
00:33:43.880 --> 00:33:46.039
here talking about it, for sure, you know, but here

713
00:33:46.039 --> 00:33:46.319
I am.

714
00:33:47.640 --> 00:33:52.160
It's just the fact that it almost I think it

715
00:33:52.279 --> 00:33:57.319
kind of unlocked memories from your past, and that kind

716
00:33:57.319 --> 00:33:59.720
of plays into this weird theory I have. I think

717
00:33:59.799 --> 00:34:07.799
that witnesses that have experiences in maybe certain areas, I

718
00:34:07.880 --> 00:34:10.599
think it, man, it does something to them. And it's like,

719
00:34:10.639 --> 00:34:13.480
because you start, how many stories have you heard where

720
00:34:13.480 --> 00:34:15.400
it's like they have a big foot encounter and then

721
00:34:16.440 --> 00:34:18.679
a week or so after that, they're like I started

722
00:34:18.880 --> 00:34:21.440
having this happen, and this happened. It's just like I

723
00:34:21.440 --> 00:34:23.840
don't know if it unlocks something or like it's just

724
00:34:23.880 --> 00:34:26.239
like a magnet, dude. It is weird as I'll get out,

725
00:34:26.320 --> 00:34:29.000
and I'm just so weird. I've heard it over and

726
00:34:29.079 --> 00:34:31.840
over and over again in like hundreds and hundreds.

727
00:34:31.920 --> 00:34:32.559
I mean, I'm over.

728
00:34:33.199 --> 00:34:35.679
I've talked to a lot of people and like, yeah,

729
00:34:35.800 --> 00:34:38.559
it's just it's weird how many patterns there are.

730
00:34:38.840 --> 00:34:39.480
And I don't know.

731
00:34:39.480 --> 00:34:42.800
If you're a pattern guy and you start to notice those.

732
00:34:43.639 --> 00:34:46.320
Yeah, yeah, it locks you in. You have you know,

733
00:34:46.440 --> 00:34:49.039
my brain works off the patterns and you recognize things,

734
00:34:49.039 --> 00:34:51.920
and it's just this pattern that pops up over and

735
00:34:51.960 --> 00:34:54.159
over and over and over and over, like I'm I listen.

736
00:34:54.239 --> 00:34:56.360
I'm not I'm gonna interview near as many people as

737
00:34:56.360 --> 00:34:59.119
you have, but the ones that I have interviewed, like

738
00:34:59.159 --> 00:35:00.880
you get a good snatch shot, like you take it,

739
00:35:00.920 --> 00:35:02.679
you can step back and get a good picture, and

740
00:35:02.719 --> 00:35:06.000
there's like these certain things that are always present during

741
00:35:06.039 --> 00:35:10.440
these encounters, almost without fail, and it just makes you wonder,

742
00:35:10.519 --> 00:35:12.880
like what is that pattern about? Why is that happening?

743
00:35:13.760 --> 00:35:14.840
But it keeps you up and out.

744
00:35:14.840 --> 00:35:15.000
Man.

745
00:35:15.039 --> 00:35:17.360
I have to like literally set it down sometimes, like Okay,

746
00:35:17.519 --> 00:35:19.119
I'm done, I'm done for the day. I got to

747
00:35:19.119 --> 00:35:22.159
put this down because it would completely overtake your life,

748
00:35:22.239 --> 00:35:24.280
you know how Like it can do that. So I

749
00:35:24.400 --> 00:35:26.920
have to learn to walk away at some point in time.

750
00:35:26.960 --> 00:35:29.039
But it's dude, it's it's wild. Some of the things

751
00:35:29.039 --> 00:35:32.440
that happened in this in this encrypted community, it's mind blowing.

752
00:35:32.519 --> 00:35:36.760
Yeah, it really can. And and so with your podcast,

753
00:35:37.159 --> 00:35:38.880
you're primarily.

754
00:35:41.280 --> 00:35:43.679
How about this. I feel like there's a line.

755
00:35:44.840 --> 00:35:48.400
That that in this field that you cross eventually or

756
00:35:48.440 --> 00:35:51.119
you have to decide not to cross it. And I

757
00:35:51.159 --> 00:35:54.000
think so you're doing your podcast where you're talking to

758
00:35:54.039 --> 00:35:57.480
people and you're helping them through things, and then I

759
00:35:57.480 --> 00:36:00.360
think everyone gets to the point where they're like, Okay,

760
00:36:00.840 --> 00:36:05.400
I'm gonna like go out and actually like check out

761
00:36:05.400 --> 00:36:08.800
these areas and see what's out there. Have you ever

762
00:36:09.079 --> 00:36:11.320
gotten to that point or is that a point where

763
00:36:11.360 --> 00:36:13.480
like maybe you don't even have to do that because

764
00:36:13.519 --> 00:36:16.639
you've had all these personal experiences yourself.

765
00:36:17.760 --> 00:36:21.639
I it's kind of funny because there's a gentleman that

766
00:36:22.440 --> 00:36:24.920
like the trailer to the doc that I posted, that

767
00:36:25.159 --> 00:36:26.840
came on my show, and I is the first person

768
00:36:26.920 --> 00:36:29.119
I got to interview in person. You know, I'm a

769
00:36:29.199 --> 00:36:31.960
videographer at heart, That's what I do. I love to

770
00:36:31.960 --> 00:36:33.840
to do that, and I've always wanted to talk to

771
00:36:33.880 --> 00:36:35.719
people in person. And so he came on the show

772
00:36:35.800 --> 00:36:37.559
we did, and then I was like, you know what,

773
00:36:37.599 --> 00:36:40.400
I need to show people where this happened. Not to

774
00:36:41.800 --> 00:36:44.119
look for these things, but just so people can get

775
00:36:44.119 --> 00:36:47.159
a feel for the area and I can shoot it

776
00:36:47.239 --> 00:36:49.199
and add something new to the channel. And so I

777
00:36:49.280 --> 00:36:53.280
did that. I've done that twice, and you know the

778
00:36:53.320 --> 00:36:57.599
first time I did it with Levon, I had my encounter. Unintentionally,

779
00:36:57.679 --> 00:37:00.159
I captured a video this thing I didn't even like.

780
00:37:00.199 --> 00:37:02.920
That was not even on my radar. I don't have.

781
00:37:03.119 --> 00:37:05.400
The only plans I have is to go interview people

782
00:37:05.440 --> 00:37:08.480
in person, show the area that they're at. I'm never

783
00:37:08.559 --> 00:37:11.480
gonna be your guy that's gonna go out and look investigate.

784
00:37:12.320 --> 00:37:15.480
I'm more like, let's tell the story. Let's tell let's

785
00:37:15.480 --> 00:37:18.599
focus on the person, how it affected them. Let's show

786
00:37:18.599 --> 00:37:20.599
you the area they had these and if I happened

787
00:37:20.639 --> 00:37:23.440
to capture something great, if it happens that it happens.

788
00:37:23.440 --> 00:37:26.679
But that's kind of the my decision with that. I

789
00:37:26.719 --> 00:37:28.000
know what you're talking about, because at some point in

790
00:37:28.000 --> 00:37:30.280
time you have to make that decision. And that's kind

791
00:37:30.280 --> 00:37:33.480
of been mo where I've I've leaned with it. I

792
00:37:33.519 --> 00:37:36.320
got an invite last week with Martin Gross to go

793
00:37:36.400 --> 00:37:38.760
out and which blows my mind, man, Like that's just

794
00:37:38.800 --> 00:37:40.559
what an honor, right, Like, you know what.

795
00:37:40.639 --> 00:37:41.760
What a dude?

796
00:37:42.119 --> 00:37:44.679
Martin is just the best. And and he's like, hey man,

797
00:37:44.760 --> 00:37:47.320
he called into the show and he's like, you know,

798
00:37:47.360 --> 00:37:48.760
I want to take you out and I want to

799
00:37:48.800 --> 00:37:50.400
show you around to the LBL and I wanted this

800
00:37:50.440 --> 00:37:52.159
someone of that, Well, how can you say no to that? Like,

801
00:37:52.159 --> 00:37:54.239
I can't say no to that. I want to go

802
00:37:54.400 --> 00:37:57.039
right again. So I'm not saying I'm going to go

803
00:37:57.079 --> 00:37:58.679
out looking for these things, but I'm most say I'm

804
00:37:58.679 --> 00:38:00.480
gonna go out and document them into something and happens.

805
00:38:00.519 --> 00:38:00.800
It does.

806
00:38:00.880 --> 00:38:03.079
Man, that's really cool.

807
00:38:06.000 --> 00:38:08.360
It is is a deal because that's how it started

808
00:38:08.400 --> 00:38:11.800
for me, which is I'm gonna go to a festival

809
00:38:11.920 --> 00:38:14.719
and all these people are here where I've talked to

810
00:38:14.760 --> 00:38:18.320
them and be able to interview them in person, but

811
00:38:18.360 --> 00:38:19.960
then they're like Hey, you got to come out with

812
00:38:20.039 --> 00:38:23.639
us to the area, and like, that's the slippery slope, dude, Josh,

813
00:38:24.400 --> 00:38:26.800
because it's it changed my life though it's like it's

814
00:38:26.880 --> 00:38:31.039
changed my life one hundred percent. But so let's let's

815
00:38:31.039 --> 00:38:34.880
think about Let's say, like, you know, and I'm not

816
00:38:34.920 --> 00:38:37.840
gonna ask you to pick your favorite kid, but in

817
00:38:37.880 --> 00:38:41.280
a way, maybe I'm gonna. So you've got like your

818
00:38:41.320 --> 00:38:46.280
catalog of mysteries unknown, is there an episode where like

819
00:38:47.199 --> 00:38:49.480
you got it all edited, you got it up, and

820
00:38:49.519 --> 00:38:51.960
you're like, man, like that is just.

821
00:38:53.599 --> 00:38:55.159
That made it all worth it?

822
00:38:55.199 --> 00:38:56.960
Is there one that really sticks out in your mind

823
00:38:56.960 --> 00:38:59.840
where it's like that is that was such a great

824
00:39:00.159 --> 00:39:01.760
filling interview to do.

825
00:39:03.440 --> 00:39:06.360
There's a handful and I will you'll, you'll can relate

826
00:39:06.400 --> 00:39:09.440
to this. And we talked to so many people and

827
00:39:09.480 --> 00:39:11.519
it's not that I forget people, and everybody who comes

828
00:39:11.559 --> 00:39:13.360
to my show is so important to me and I

829
00:39:13.360 --> 00:39:16.840
don't take any of it for granted, but you know

830
00:39:16.880 --> 00:39:19.119
the feeling when you get through interviewing somebody and then

831
00:39:19.119 --> 00:39:21.159
you're like, bro, I got to put you in my

832
00:39:21.239 --> 00:39:25.079
phone because this is such a huge impactful thing that

833
00:39:25.159 --> 00:39:28.480
I'm never gonna forget and and I have a handful

834
00:39:28.519 --> 00:39:31.599
of episodes like that. There's some people that come on

835
00:39:31.599 --> 00:39:35.360
my show that like, you can tell that it changed

836
00:39:35.400 --> 00:39:37.639
their life as in a good way, like it really

837
00:39:37.719 --> 00:39:39.440
impacted them and it gave them a place to get

838
00:39:39.440 --> 00:39:42.320
it off their chest. You don't forget that stuff. And

839
00:39:42.360 --> 00:39:44.480
so I would say that there is there is a

840
00:39:44.519 --> 00:39:47.719
handful that I'm just like, man, that was whatever. But

841
00:39:47.760 --> 00:39:49.119
I will tell you the first one I had that

842
00:39:49.119 --> 00:39:51.760
feeling was with Daniel. When Daniel came on my show

843
00:39:51.800 --> 00:39:55.360
the first time. It's funny because he sent me an email.

844
00:39:55.880 --> 00:39:57.559
And this is like early on. I think I had

845
00:39:57.559 --> 00:40:00.599
like five episodes up or something, and he sent me

846
00:40:00.639 --> 00:40:03.039
an email and it got lost in my spam or something.

847
00:40:03.320 --> 00:40:04.679
It was like a month and a half before I

848
00:40:04.719 --> 00:40:07.280
got back to him. And so he came on the show,

849
00:40:07.280 --> 00:40:11.079
and I remember getting off that interview thinking, this dude's

850
00:40:11.119 --> 00:40:12.920
going to be a friend, Like I just knew that

851
00:40:12.960 --> 00:40:16.800
this guy would be connected to me. And so that's

852
00:40:16.880 --> 00:40:19.920
one in particular. Daniel's stories are absolutely mind blowing. They

853
00:40:20.320 --> 00:40:23.239
He's had some incredible accounts and me and him are

854
00:40:23.280 --> 00:40:26.159
completely different how we see these things, but his stories

855
00:40:26.159 --> 00:40:28.920
are so credible and the way he tells them. That's

856
00:40:28.960 --> 00:40:31.000
the first one that stuck out to me. But I'd

857
00:40:31.039 --> 00:40:33.119
be hard pressed to pick one favorite. Man, there's so

858
00:40:33.280 --> 00:40:35.880
many that I've just been privileged to sit back and

859
00:40:35.920 --> 00:40:37.920
like you get it, edit and you release it, and

860
00:40:37.920 --> 00:40:41.599
you're like, man, that is something really special, And those

861
00:40:41.599 --> 00:40:44.199
are the ones that make it all worth it. I

862
00:40:44.239 --> 00:40:46.800
think for me, when somebody texts you the next day

863
00:40:46.840 --> 00:40:49.159
and you're like, you know, that impacted my life. I

864
00:40:49.199 --> 00:40:51.199
was in a really dark place. Thank you for letting

865
00:40:51.239 --> 00:40:53.880
me do that. You know that feeling, that's the best

866
00:40:53.920 --> 00:40:56.400
feeling in the world. And then it's like, Okay, that's

867
00:40:56.440 --> 00:40:58.079
why I'm doing this. I'm glad I get to do

868
00:40:58.079 --> 00:40:59.960
this because I think people get the perception like man,

869
00:41:00.000 --> 00:41:01.480
and all we do is sit and we talk. No,

870
00:41:01.599 --> 00:41:03.519
there's a lot of work. It's a lot of work.

871
00:41:03.760 --> 00:41:06.159
It's like it's not an easy thing, like it's it is.

872
00:41:06.199 --> 00:41:08.159
And then I don't know how you are. But when

873
00:41:08.199 --> 00:41:12.079
you sit with somebody and you help them carry that trauma, dude,

874
00:41:12.159 --> 00:41:15.360
I'm I'm taxed. I am. It takes it out of me,

875
00:41:15.440 --> 00:41:18.239
like I am, I'm tired afterwards because you're sitting with

876
00:41:18.280 --> 00:41:21.599
people and these things not always right, like, not every time,

877
00:41:21.639 --> 00:41:23.800
but these things are pretty traumatic for a lot of people,

878
00:41:23.800 --> 00:41:26.639
whether they're good or bad. You're seeing something that isn't

879
00:41:26.639 --> 00:41:28.639
supposed to be there, people don't know what to do with.

880
00:41:28.800 --> 00:41:31.440
And so then I'm always in my head, am I

881
00:41:31.480 --> 00:41:33.800
doing a good enough job? Am I? Am I presenting

882
00:41:33.800 --> 00:41:36.159
this well for them? You know? Is this something they

883
00:41:36.199 --> 00:41:37.880
would be proud of? Those are the thoughts that go

884
00:41:37.920 --> 00:41:40.960
through my head when I'm doing these things. And so, yeah,

885
00:41:41.000 --> 00:41:43.199
it'd be hard pressed to pick one in particular, but

886
00:41:43.239 --> 00:41:45.079
I've had some wild ones on the show. I don't

887
00:41:45.079 --> 00:41:46.400
know if that answers your question, but.

888
00:41:46.760 --> 00:41:48.800
No, it does. And I'm I'm trying to think of

889
00:41:48.840 --> 00:41:49.440
on myself.

890
00:41:50.079 --> 00:41:52.280
Well, the one that someone just threw up on X

891
00:41:53.519 --> 00:41:55.519
I want to say that was you talk to the

892
00:41:55.559 --> 00:42:00.199
guy who was from Manisty National Forest to Joe. Yeah,

893
00:42:00.199 --> 00:42:02.320
oh my goodness, I'm not a dog man guy. But like,

894
00:42:02.360 --> 00:42:04.320
that's one of the most that must have been an

895
00:42:04.360 --> 00:42:05.320
intense interview.

896
00:42:06.079 --> 00:42:08.079
It was man, and it was such a privilege and

897
00:42:08.119 --> 00:42:11.079
honor to just sit there and listen to him. And

898
00:42:11.320 --> 00:42:15.840
I'm telling you that man, if that man's line everything's fake,

899
00:42:16.039 --> 00:42:18.199
I'm just telling you right now, Like that man is

900
00:42:18.519 --> 00:42:21.360
you know what he saw and he's a solid dude,

901
00:42:21.360 --> 00:42:23.559
and just to sit there with him and have that

902
00:42:24.119 --> 00:42:26.320
it was an honor. It was an absolute honor. So yeah,

903
00:42:26.360 --> 00:42:28.480
that that one definitely stands out for sure.

904
00:42:30.320 --> 00:42:32.760
Absolutely, I didn't at the end of the day.

905
00:42:32.800 --> 00:42:35.440
It's like you could literally just you could pick any

906
00:42:35.480 --> 00:42:37.599
episode and you're gonna have a good time. I think

907
00:42:38.679 --> 00:42:43.400
how it's gonna work out. I would like to talk

908
00:42:43.480 --> 00:42:50.280
about because I think our worldview is pretty similar. Like

909
00:42:50.320 --> 00:42:53.559
you're a Christian as well, right, yeah, I think that's

910
00:42:53.559 --> 00:42:54.519
pretty evident on your.

911
00:42:54.480 --> 00:42:58.760
Show, which.

912
00:43:00.119 --> 00:43:04.400
Could potentially put how you view things in a really

913
00:43:04.480 --> 00:43:08.119
interesting lay. I mean, I've talked to so many different people,

914
00:43:08.760 --> 00:43:11.599
a lot of different Christians, and there's a lot of

915
00:43:11.599 --> 00:43:14.559
different ways, even on the Christian side of things, to

916
00:43:14.639 --> 00:43:17.920
look at what these cryptids are. And so I'm just

917
00:43:18.079 --> 00:43:20.920
curious if that, if your worldview affects how you view

918
00:43:20.960 --> 00:43:23.800
things like Bigfoot and dog Man or and how you

919
00:43:23.920 --> 00:43:27.800
balance that out with what you believe one hundred percent,

920
00:43:28.079 --> 00:43:31.800
Like everything I do with that is from that perspective,

921
00:43:31.880 --> 00:43:35.199
Like it's really a huge part of who I am,

922
00:43:35.280 --> 00:43:37.800
and I look at these things I'm open minded for sure,

923
00:43:37.920 --> 00:43:40.320
and I don't try to prove or disprove anything. I don't,

924
00:43:40.760 --> 00:43:42.599
you know, I want to hear everybody's thoughts and opinions,

925
00:43:42.599 --> 00:43:44.480
but I'm going to look at these things from a

926
00:43:44.519 --> 00:43:48.000
biblical perspective and lens. And it's really shaped how I've

927
00:43:48.679 --> 00:43:51.159
pictured and thought about these things, and it's changed over

928
00:43:51.159 --> 00:43:53.719
the years, like since I've done this, and it's kind

929
00:43:53.719 --> 00:43:55.800
of grown into something that's taken me a while to

930
00:43:55.800 --> 00:43:57.639
get here. And it's funny because once you figure out

931
00:43:57.639 --> 00:44:00.320
like oh I got this nailed down, you're an encounter, You're.

932
00:44:00.159 --> 00:44:02.159
Like, well, I don't know, does that fit in that box?

933
00:44:02.239 --> 00:44:05.000
Like is that right? But that's always like my worldview

934
00:44:05.119 --> 00:44:06.679
is that it's always going to be that. My faith

935
00:44:06.719 --> 00:44:08.320
is really important to me and I don't shy away

936
00:44:08.320 --> 00:44:10.519
from it on my channel at all. But yeah, I

937
00:44:10.519 --> 00:44:13.079
think these things and we get in that if you

938
00:44:13.119 --> 00:44:16.639
want to and speculate, if that's something you want to do.

939
00:44:16.679 --> 00:44:20.679
But absolutely, I'm you know, I think we're taking educated guesses.

940
00:44:20.800 --> 00:44:23.039
I don't know how you are. But anytime somebody comes

941
00:44:23.079 --> 00:44:25.360
on the show and they're like, I'm an expert and

942
00:44:25.400 --> 00:44:28.119
I know what these are. My first thought is like,

943
00:44:29.239 --> 00:44:31.639
there's no such things as experts, and you can't know

944
00:44:32.079 --> 00:44:35.760
you can. We're guessing. We're taking educated guesses based on

945
00:44:35.800 --> 00:44:38.239
the things we know. And so I go back to

946
00:44:38.280 --> 00:44:39.920
the Bible because I feel like everything we need to

947
00:44:39.920 --> 00:44:41.920
know is there, Like that's where the answers are at,

948
00:44:42.360 --> 00:44:44.840
not always exactly what we want and not always clear,

949
00:44:44.920 --> 00:44:48.000
but it's there. But here's where I've landed with these things.

950
00:44:48.039 --> 00:44:51.119
And the statement that I've landed on that I if

951
00:44:51.119 --> 00:44:53.719
you back them into corners. When they're flesh and blood,

952
00:44:53.719 --> 00:44:55.639
they're flesh and blood, and when they're not, they're not.

953
00:44:55.800 --> 00:44:58.519
And what I mean by that is they can be both.

954
00:44:58.960 --> 00:45:01.239
I think that's why some times they have flesh and

955
00:45:01.280 --> 00:45:04.239
blood attributes, but they do weird things like don't leave footprints,

956
00:45:04.280 --> 00:45:06.840
they do whatever. I mean. I've heard people come on

957
00:45:06.880 --> 00:45:08.960
the show, had a dog man encounter. Lady come on

958
00:45:08.960 --> 00:45:11.400
the show and she said this thing manifested in her house,

959
00:45:11.800 --> 00:45:13.760
grabbed her by the throat, pushed her up on the

960
00:45:13.800 --> 00:45:16.840
wall and was trying to kill her, physically kill her.

961
00:45:17.199 --> 00:45:19.480
And she said she was doing her best to invoke

962
00:45:19.519 --> 00:45:21.840
the name of Jesus and couldn't get it out. And

963
00:45:21.880 --> 00:45:24.480
she finally did, and this thing vanished and disappeared and

964
00:45:24.599 --> 00:45:28.440
just was gone. Right. You have those kind of encounters,

965
00:45:28.480 --> 00:45:30.239
and then you have the encounters where somebody's like, it

966
00:45:30.280 --> 00:45:32.679
crosses the road in front of me. It stood up

967
00:45:32.719 --> 00:45:34.559
in front of me, and that's all there was to it.

968
00:45:35.559 --> 00:45:38.960
But I think that maybe there is a small percentage

969
00:45:38.960 --> 00:45:43.199
of these creatures, these bigfoot cryptids that are flesh and blood.

970
00:45:43.280 --> 00:45:46.079
Maybe there's a couple sides of this, and then there's

971
00:45:46.119 --> 00:45:49.280
a whole side where these fallen angels are coming and

972
00:45:49.320 --> 00:45:51.880
they're emulating these things. I used to think they were demons,

973
00:45:51.880 --> 00:45:54.519
but somebody changed my mind on that because they're like,

974
00:45:54.559 --> 00:45:57.639
why does a demon can't do that? They don't have

975
00:45:57.719 --> 00:46:00.280
a body, and so I'm like, well, then where that

976
00:46:00.320 --> 00:46:03.239
body coming from. So my thought process, there's two scriptures

977
00:46:03.280 --> 00:46:05.639
I lay my hat on. Is like number one that

978
00:46:06.400 --> 00:46:09.039
says God's gives her without repentance, meaning that if God

979
00:46:09.079 --> 00:46:12.119
gives you a gift, he does not take that from you. Angels, whoever,

980
00:46:12.199 --> 00:46:15.000
whatever it is, he doesn't take it from you. And secondly,

981
00:46:16.159 --> 00:46:17.960
we can entertain an angel and aware and so that

982
00:46:18.000 --> 00:46:20.679
means there's shape shifters, which if you say that to

983
00:46:20.760 --> 00:46:23.519
most Christians today, they're gonna look at you like you're insane,

984
00:46:23.559 --> 00:46:25.760
like you've lost your mind. But it's but it's true.

985
00:46:25.760 --> 00:46:27.599
And so I think that these things are shape shifters,

986
00:46:28.119 --> 00:46:30.079
that they can do things. That's why they can mind speak,

987
00:46:30.119 --> 00:46:32.440
that's why they can disappear, that's why they can shape

988
00:46:32.480 --> 00:46:35.440
the way they look or whatever. Am I do? I

989
00:46:35.480 --> 00:46:38.400
know him right now? That's my that's my educated guess.

990
00:46:38.639 --> 00:46:41.360
That's what I'm guessing. That's what I think, and it

991
00:46:41.360 --> 00:46:43.360
could be one hundred percent wrong, and that's fine if

992
00:46:43.400 --> 00:46:45.320
I am. But that's kind of where I land what

993
00:46:45.400 --> 00:46:48.079
I think. But those are the thoughts that keep me

994
00:46:48.159 --> 00:46:50.000
up at night and keeps me coming back. And it's

995
00:46:50.039 --> 00:46:51.199
really interesting.

996
00:46:50.800 --> 00:46:55.519
And I don't know that we'll ever know, you know, Yeah,

997
00:46:55.960 --> 00:46:59.920
it's man, that's a really cool way to lay things out.

998
00:47:00.159 --> 00:47:04.599
Usually you hear a lot of like, well their nephelim

999
00:47:06.079 --> 00:47:10.440
something to that. You hear a lot of that. Do

1000
00:47:10.519 --> 00:47:13.400
you get on your show? Well, I guess you kind

1001
00:47:13.400 --> 00:47:16.679
of mentioned it, but just curious, besides the one you mentioned,

1002
00:47:16.679 --> 00:47:18.280
do you get a lot of people where they're like

1003
00:47:19.039 --> 00:47:24.559
the only thing that could stop what was going on

1004
00:47:24.760 --> 00:47:26.400
was me saying the name of Jesus.

1005
00:47:26.679 --> 00:47:28.119
Does that come up a lot?

1006
00:47:28.400 --> 00:47:32.119
A lot, like mind blowingly a lot, like like a lot,

1007
00:47:32.199 --> 00:47:34.079
like I can't even count the amount of times that

1008
00:47:34.079 --> 00:47:38.239
that happens. I mean a lot. And so when I

1009
00:47:38.280 --> 00:47:40.039
first started all this, it's not even the thing I

1010
00:47:40.119 --> 00:47:42.079
thought about, Like I wasn't even trying to come at

1011
00:47:42.079 --> 00:47:45.000
it in that perspective. It just kind of happened. And

1012
00:47:45.039 --> 00:47:46.719
so I was like, Okay, there's something to this, which

1013
00:47:46.760 --> 00:47:48.639
I believe that, you know, I do believe that, and

1014
00:47:48.679 --> 00:47:51.440
so it's like just happens a lot. It's funny. My

1015
00:47:51.480 --> 00:47:55.000
show attracts those kind of encounters, and so it comes

1016
00:47:55.079 --> 00:47:57.639
up a lot, and I just there's got to be

1017
00:47:57.639 --> 00:47:59.079
something to that. And you know, if you talk to

1018
00:47:59.119 --> 00:48:01.480
Martin Gross for more than five minutes, you're gonna understand

1019
00:48:01.519 --> 00:48:04.719
like he one hundred percent believes that and enforces that

1020
00:48:04.800 --> 00:48:07.679
and does that all the time and his encounters. So yeah,

1021
00:48:07.800 --> 00:48:10.239
it definitely comes up, and I think that's that's that

1022
00:48:10.360 --> 00:48:13.000
is something that is on my channel a lot, and

1023
00:48:13.079 --> 00:48:16.000
I'm proud that it's there. And yeah, I believe that

1024
00:48:16.000 --> 00:48:17.239
there's something to that for sure.

1025
00:48:18.000 --> 00:48:22.639
Yeah, I would definitely say so. My so the way

1026
00:48:22.679 --> 00:48:25.960
I look at I try to base stuff or what

1027
00:48:26.039 --> 00:48:31.880
I believe on what I've experienced as well, So sorry

1028
00:48:31.920 --> 00:48:34.559
when it comes to Bigfoot. So for me so far,

1029
00:48:34.679 --> 00:48:37.880
based on what I've experienced in different states, it's like

1030
00:48:38.679 --> 00:48:41.559
I'm thinking physical creature that can do weird stuff that

1031
00:48:41.639 --> 00:48:45.840
science doesn't get right. And something that I've really tried

1032
00:48:45.840 --> 00:48:48.239
to wrap my mind around is all the stories and

1033
00:48:48.280 --> 00:48:52.119
accounts I get where it's like, say the name of

1034
00:48:52.199 --> 00:48:54.639
Jesus and it just clears out.

1035
00:48:57.519 --> 00:48:57.679
Well.

1036
00:48:57.719 --> 00:48:59.719
I mean there's a Bible verse that says that the

1037
00:48:59.760 --> 00:49:03.760
name that Jesus, every niece shall bow right. And so

1038
00:49:04.239 --> 00:49:09.159
I think I think the reason there is that that

1039
00:49:09.239 --> 00:49:12.079
name is powerful. And uh, yeah, a lot of people

1040
00:49:12.119 --> 00:49:13.440
don't like it when you say that name.

1041
00:49:14.039 --> 00:49:15.880
Well, they don't many don't.

1042
00:49:15.880 --> 00:49:17.519
You get in a lot of trouble if you start

1043
00:49:17.559 --> 00:49:19.320
saying that that's true.

1044
00:49:19.400 --> 00:49:22.280
Man, Yeah, don't like it, You don't know, But I

1045
00:49:22.360 --> 00:49:23.039
do it anyways.

1046
00:49:23.079 --> 00:49:25.840
I'm like, yeah, I'm just gonna do it. Yeah for sure,

1047
00:49:25.840 --> 00:49:31.440
absolutely absolutely. Uh are you going to any events at all?

1048
00:49:31.639 --> 00:49:33.639
Or are you putting yourself out there? Are you just

1049
00:49:33.719 --> 00:49:35.079
kind of hanging out in the studio?

1050
00:49:36.039 --> 00:49:41.000
Man? I went to my very first conference this this month,

1051
00:49:41.159 --> 00:49:43.960
my very first three June. The fourth will be three

1052
00:49:44.039 --> 00:49:46.320
years I'm doing this, which is it blows my mind.

1053
00:49:46.360 --> 00:49:48.880
But I went to uh Todd Nice put on a

1054
00:49:48.920 --> 00:49:50.960
conference and I went there and I got to meet

1055
00:49:51.440 --> 00:49:53.639
Darryl Didton in person. Daryl Didn't's a friend of mine

1056
00:49:53.639 --> 00:49:55.199
and we talk all the time, so he was there.

1057
00:49:55.360 --> 00:49:57.880
Ron Moorhead was there, and funny enough, I don't know

1058
00:49:57.880 --> 00:49:59.679
if you've you've had Darryl Adams on your show.

1059
00:50:00.079 --> 00:50:05.079
I'm sure, Oh yeah, Darryl Adams from All Lab.

1060
00:50:05.800 --> 00:50:09.079
Great dude, great dude. Darryl's awesome. But I was standing

1061
00:50:09.079 --> 00:50:11.639
there and there's Darryl and we started talking and he's like, hey,

1062
00:50:12.199 --> 00:50:14.480
you need to meet these people. And these people I

1063
00:50:14.480 --> 00:50:15.960
don't even know who these people are. And they're sitting

1064
00:50:15.960 --> 00:50:17.039
there like, hey, do you want to do you want

1065
00:50:17.079 --> 00:50:18.920
to share your encounter? And I'm like sure, So I

1066
00:50:18.960 --> 00:50:21.119
sit down and I do this whole encounter and it

1067
00:50:21.199 --> 00:50:24.320
was flash of beauty. I didn't even know who they were,

1068
00:50:24.760 --> 00:50:27.920
and so that was great too. Yeah, yeah, thanks, Matt.

1069
00:50:27.960 --> 00:50:30.239
I appreciate it. But I'm like, you know, like, so

1070
00:50:30.360 --> 00:50:34.000
I'm not I've never went and done that and really

1071
00:50:34.079 --> 00:50:36.960
got into the Bigfoot circuit or whatever. I enjoyed it.

1072
00:50:36.960 --> 00:50:38.440
It was fun and I definitely want to do that.

1073
00:50:38.760 --> 00:50:41.119
We're going to do a meet and greet on June

1074
00:50:41.119 --> 00:50:43.440
the fifth here and then we're going to go to

1075
00:50:43.480 --> 00:50:46.119
Little Rock. There's a conference there that Daniel's going to

1076
00:50:46.159 --> 00:50:48.400
be speaking at. He's a guest there, So I'm gonna

1077
00:50:48.440 --> 00:50:51.079
go and just kind of hang out. I haven't gotten

1078
00:50:51.079 --> 00:50:53.239
invited to any but if I do, I definitely would

1079
00:50:53.320 --> 00:50:55.199
think about it. But I just have kind of laid

1080
00:50:55.239 --> 00:50:57.920
low and done things in the studio up to this point.

1081
00:50:58.000 --> 00:51:01.199
You know, I feel like we are at.

1082
00:51:01.039 --> 00:51:08.800
The point in time for a different a few different

1083
00:51:08.800 --> 00:51:11.480
reasons I won't get into, but where you would see

1084
00:51:11.960 --> 00:51:16.360
that the same people at the conferences and the festivals speaking.

1085
00:51:16.519 --> 00:51:19.760
I think this is a turnover year where I don't

1086
00:51:19.760 --> 00:51:21.880
know what's gonna what's happening. If you've got an idea,

1087
00:51:21.960 --> 00:51:23.599
put it in the comments. But I just got a

1088
00:51:23.639 --> 00:51:26.679
feeling that you're going to start seeing new names on

1089
00:51:26.679 --> 00:51:29.280
on the speaking bracket, which is okay.

1090
00:51:29.360 --> 00:51:30.519
I mean that happens, you know.

1091
00:51:30.880 --> 00:51:33.360
Uh, you get to the point some people they just

1092
00:51:33.400 --> 00:51:36.639
can't travel as much due to age, and that's all right. Yeah,

1093
00:51:36.719 --> 00:51:41.440
and you know, there's there's actually, as you said, you know,

1094
00:51:41.519 --> 00:51:45.000
you've been in in this in the podcast for a

1095
00:51:45.079 --> 00:51:48.679
few years, and man, there's there's a lot of really

1096
00:51:48.679 --> 00:51:51.760
good guys out there that can probably share some cool stuff.

1097
00:51:51.800 --> 00:51:54.199
And I'm glad to see, you know, these guys start

1098
00:51:54.400 --> 00:51:57.519
like as Dano. I was when I saw him on

1099
00:51:57.599 --> 00:52:00.280
that festival thing. I was ecstatic. I was like, yes, us,

1100
00:52:00.960 --> 00:52:02.960
get Dani out there like he needs to.

1101
00:52:03.679 --> 00:52:06.360
Yeah. Man, he's the best. He's the best. He really is. Man,

1102
00:52:06.400 --> 00:52:09.400
He's awesome, he really is. And he's my he's my

1103
00:52:09.440 --> 00:52:11.360
big brother. Man. I love that guy. And yeah, it's

1104
00:52:11.440 --> 00:52:14.679
nice to see new faces going out there, and you know,

1105
00:52:14.679 --> 00:52:16.519
it's kind of almost like a transition of like the

1106
00:52:16.559 --> 00:52:18.920
next generation, you know, And it's kind of up to

1107
00:52:19.000 --> 00:52:21.679
us to keep this thing going, I think. And it's

1108
00:52:21.679 --> 00:52:23.719
not anything I thought about when I started this channel,

1109
00:52:23.719 --> 00:52:25.440
and I'm sure you feel that way too, and it's

1110
00:52:26.000 --> 00:52:27.440
it's just kind of like it's going to be up

1111
00:52:27.440 --> 00:52:29.079
to us to continue that on. I think, if it's

1112
00:52:29.079 --> 00:52:31.159
going to happen at some point, Tom.

1113
00:52:31.079 --> 00:52:36.000
I've started to think about that a lot. And because

1114
00:52:36.039 --> 00:52:41.360
it is a field where it's a field where the

1115
00:52:41.519 --> 00:52:44.559
information could be lost in a generation if you think

1116
00:52:44.559 --> 00:52:48.000
about it, which is really scary. Thankfully we have stuff

1117
00:52:48.039 --> 00:52:54.880
like podcasts, YouTube channels where it's more accessible, and then

1118
00:52:54.920 --> 00:52:57.800
you have books and but man, it's like we're to

1119
00:52:57.840 --> 00:53:00.400
the point like we lost doctor Meldrum. That was a

1120
00:53:00.440 --> 00:53:03.719
huge blow, and then eventually there's going to be other

1121
00:53:03.800 --> 00:53:06.039
names that will that we'll pass on.

1122
00:53:06.360 --> 00:53:10.840
And yeah, it's just it makes you.

1123
00:53:10.880 --> 00:53:14.079
Take take it more seriously. Like what do you feel

1124
00:53:14.119 --> 00:53:18.239
at a festival and you're speaking and someone likes Cliff

1125
00:53:18.280 --> 00:53:19.960
isn't there, So you can't be like, oh, just go

1126
00:53:20.000 --> 00:53:21.719
talk to Cliff, right right.

1127
00:53:21.760 --> 00:53:23.920
No, that's a good point, man, Like you start thinking

1128
00:53:23.920 --> 00:53:26.360
about that stuff and it it's like, yeah, you know,

1129
00:53:26.400 --> 00:53:28.199
I think it's pt us to do that, So yeah,

1130
00:53:28.199 --> 00:53:28.679
I agree with you.

1131
00:53:28.760 --> 00:53:33.400
Man, it's weird maybe to talk We'll talk about dog

1132
00:53:33.480 --> 00:53:37.639
Man for a few minutes at the end here. It's

1133
00:53:38.199 --> 00:53:42.760
it's such an interesting topic. I forced myself to to

1134
00:53:42.880 --> 00:53:47.039
stay focused on Bigfoot just because there's a lot of

1135
00:53:47.039 --> 00:53:49.920
people that need to talk about it, and a lot

1136
00:53:50.280 --> 00:53:53.360
so I don't get like shiny object syndrome.

1137
00:53:54.639 --> 00:54:01.360
But man, have you ever heard a good dog man encounter?

1138
00:54:01.440 --> 00:54:03.920
Because I haven't like they're all terrible, like well, I

1139
00:54:03.960 --> 00:54:06.760
shouldn't say terrible, but they're all like negative, right.

1140
00:54:07.400 --> 00:54:09.920
Every one of them. I call these things feary eaters.

1141
00:54:10.039 --> 00:54:14.960
I've never heard I've never heard of one positive one

1142
00:54:15.039 --> 00:54:18.559
positive encounter, not one, not one where somebody walked away.

1143
00:54:18.559 --> 00:54:20.039
I was like, oh, you know that was great. I

1144
00:54:20.039 --> 00:54:23.559
want to see that again. No, and these things have

1145
00:54:23.599 --> 00:54:27.000
a tendency to follow people, like they really lock onto you.

1146
00:54:27.039 --> 00:54:29.360
I think if you feed that fear, then they thrive

1147
00:54:29.400 --> 00:54:31.360
off of that. So I think the best way to

1148
00:54:31.360 --> 00:54:33.039
get rid of these things is to lock that fear off,

1149
00:54:33.079 --> 00:54:36.159
because I think that's what they do. But yeah, it's

1150
00:54:36.239 --> 00:54:38.480
unintentionally was not even a thing that was on my radar.

1151
00:54:38.599 --> 00:54:41.280
I just I remember the first time somebody wrote in

1152
00:54:41.320 --> 00:54:42.800
the show and like, hey, I have a dog Man encounter.

1153
00:54:42.840 --> 00:54:44.400
I was like, what's that. I don't even know what

1154
00:54:44.440 --> 00:54:47.320
that was. And so they got talked to this person.

1155
00:54:47.360 --> 00:54:49.599
I was like, oh, this is a thing, and I

1156
00:54:49.639 --> 00:54:52.199
think it's become more popular over the last several years.

1157
00:54:52.199 --> 00:54:55.119
But yeah, these things are not good. Man. You can

1158
00:54:55.639 --> 00:54:57.599
go back and forth on Bigfoot like whatever, but I

1159
00:54:57.599 --> 00:55:00.039
think dog Man everybody can hone into the fact that

1160
00:55:00.039 --> 00:55:02.239
these these are not good. You know, that's been my

1161
00:55:02.320 --> 00:55:02.800
take on it.

1162
00:55:03.519 --> 00:55:04.480
Yeah. Absolutely.

1163
00:55:04.599 --> 00:55:08.159
Do you have any theories about what what you might

1164
00:55:08.239 --> 00:55:10.800
be dealing with when you have a dog man in

1165
00:55:10.840 --> 00:55:11.280
the picture?

1166
00:55:11.360 --> 00:55:13.960
Is it kind of similar to how you look at Bigfoot.

1167
00:55:14.239 --> 00:55:16.639
Kind of the same thing? You know, Bigfoot is more

1168
00:55:16.679 --> 00:55:19.480
of an open box. For me, Bigfoot's more of like, well,

1169
00:55:19.519 --> 00:55:21.599
maybe there's more to that, Maybe it's not what I think,

1170
00:55:21.679 --> 00:55:25.440
Maybe it's whatever he could be. Dog Man is like, no,

1171
00:55:25.519 --> 00:55:27.760
that's this, this is what that is. This is like,

1172
00:55:28.039 --> 00:55:30.920
this is that it's not good. These things are here

1173
00:55:30.960 --> 00:55:32.880
to torment us. And one of the biggest indicators for

1174
00:55:32.920 --> 00:55:34.239
me is I had a gentleman come on the show

1175
00:55:34.239 --> 00:55:36.760
and when he was a kid, he shot what he

1176
00:55:36.760 --> 00:55:39.079
thought was a fox and this thing used mine speak

1177
00:55:39.159 --> 00:55:41.280
in the middle of him shooting, It's like, stop, don't shoot,

1178
00:55:41.320 --> 00:55:44.719
and he did. He shot this thing. Fast forward years later,

1179
00:55:44.760 --> 00:55:47.079
this guy's a veteran, you know, been in the military.

1180
00:55:47.079 --> 00:55:50.079
He traveled a lot, and he sees this creature running

1181
00:55:50.079 --> 00:55:54.039
beside him and it's a dog man and it's pacing

1182
00:55:54.079 --> 00:55:56.760
his car and why would it say that? Well, why

1183
00:55:57.000 --> 00:56:00.599
why say those words? Right? And so it's like, well,

1184
00:56:00.599 --> 00:56:03.880
then your question is like, well, what's holding these things back? What?

1185
00:56:04.400 --> 00:56:06.400
Why are they here? What's holding the back? Because the

1186
00:56:06.400 --> 00:56:09.239
thing about dog Man that I've that happens over and over.

1187
00:56:09.440 --> 00:56:11.480
They get to the point where they could take you,

1188
00:56:11.639 --> 00:56:14.199
they could hurt you, but they don't, like they're just

1189
00:56:14.280 --> 00:56:17.119
there to torment you. Now, I'm not saying that's a

1190
00:56:17.119 --> 00:56:19.679
whole other topic. I'm not saying that they don't. And

1191
00:56:19.800 --> 00:56:24.159
maybe and I'm not saying every missing form one is

1192
00:56:24.559 --> 00:56:27.239
because of these things, but maybe a percentage of these

1193
00:56:27.239 --> 00:56:29.440
things are. And if they are, they're dog Man related

1194
00:56:29.440 --> 00:56:32.079
in my opinion. But I think that these things live

1195
00:56:32.159 --> 00:56:34.880
to torturous and they're waiting. They're just waiting. They're waiting,

1196
00:56:35.159 --> 00:56:37.119
and it kind of goes back to the biblical context.

1197
00:56:37.119 --> 00:56:39.679
But yeah, oh yeah, one hundred percent.

1198
00:56:39.679 --> 00:56:43.199
I mean, as you're saying that, I'm immediately thinking of

1199
00:56:43.239 --> 00:56:48.840
something like the Book of Revelation, where you've got, you know,

1200
00:56:48.880 --> 00:56:53.719
a situation where things are being held back and then oh, man,

1201
00:56:54.280 --> 00:56:55.639
you're the first one I'm coming after.

1202
00:56:56.239 --> 00:56:58.639
That's crazy, wild, bro, it's.

1203
00:56:58.480 --> 00:57:01.360
Wild, man like, it's wild, like, it's just absolutely wild.

1204
00:57:01.360 --> 00:57:03.360
And I'll tell you another thing that happens a lot

1205
00:57:03.840 --> 00:57:06.480
with these encounters. When I interview somebody with the dog Man,

1206
00:57:06.519 --> 00:57:08.239
when they email into the show, like cav got a

1207
00:57:08.239 --> 00:57:11.400
dog Man encounter, I want to whatever, almost without fail,

1208
00:57:11.519 --> 00:57:14.159
I know for sure the audio is gonna jack up.

1209
00:57:14.239 --> 00:57:16.360
It's not gonna be okay, the video is gonna be

1210
00:57:16.360 --> 00:57:19.920
messed up. Something weird's gonna happen. You have to redo

1211
00:57:19.960 --> 00:57:22.880
the interview three or four times, or there's some kind

1212
00:57:22.880 --> 00:57:25.960
of interference in the audio that you can't get out.

1213
00:57:26.000 --> 00:57:28.320
And if you listen to that guy's encounter in the background,

1214
00:57:28.360 --> 00:57:30.840
you can hear the sound whistle up and wind down,

1215
00:57:31.199 --> 00:57:33.599
whistle up and wind the whole time we're doing the encounter.

1216
00:57:34.480 --> 00:57:35.920
Are you talking about it?

1217
00:57:36.920 --> 00:57:37.039
So?

1218
00:57:37.239 --> 00:57:38.800
You do without what you will. But it's just like

1219
00:57:38.960 --> 00:57:41.639
it's it's just so, that whole thing is so it's

1220
00:57:41.679 --> 00:57:44.360
so strange. I never ever, ever in my life, thought

1221
00:57:44.400 --> 00:57:47.159
I would be talking about that, But I get those

1222
00:57:47.159 --> 00:57:47.440
a lot.

1223
00:57:49.000 --> 00:57:51.800
It's really interesting because that's something I'll bring up when

1224
00:57:51.840 --> 00:57:55.400
I'm just talking to other content creators in the same field. Hey,

1225
00:57:55.440 --> 00:57:58.480
you ever deal with this when you're doing interviews? One

1226
00:57:58.559 --> 00:58:01.719
hundred percent all of them say yes. And Dude, like

1227
00:58:02.039 --> 00:58:08.320
I've everything you've said there, I've experienced as well. I mean, dude,

1228
00:58:08.360 --> 00:58:11.159
I've had like I saw orbs in the room one day.

1229
00:58:11.360 --> 00:58:15.400
It's like so weird, man, goodness, what's I've had EVPs

1230
00:58:15.440 --> 00:58:16.599
show up on recordings.

1231
00:58:17.159 --> 00:58:19.880
It's crazy. Stuff is absolutely crazy.

1232
00:58:20.480 --> 00:58:23.320
It's weird, man, Like it's you know, that's why it's Scott.

1233
00:58:23.360 --> 00:58:25.239
There's got to be more. There has to be for

1234
00:58:25.280 --> 00:58:28.639
that stuff to happen, you know, but it's it's so strange, man.

1235
00:58:29.039 --> 00:58:32.519
So one hundred percent, Josh, this has been such a

1236
00:58:32.519 --> 00:58:35.960
fun conversation talking to you about what you've got going

1237
00:58:36.000 --> 00:58:38.840
on over there with mysteries unknown and your journey to

1238
00:58:38.960 --> 00:58:42.639
get to that point. So thank you again for coming

1239
00:58:42.679 --> 00:58:45.480
on the show. I really do appreciate it. But I

1240
00:58:45.519 --> 00:58:47.840
want to make sure that you have a few minutes

1241
00:58:47.880 --> 00:58:52.639
to remind listeners, you know, how they can keep up

1242
00:58:52.639 --> 00:58:55.400
to date with what you're doing, how they can listen

1243
00:58:55.480 --> 00:58:58.000
and watch, and how they can reach out to you

1244
00:58:58.039 --> 00:58:58.440
as well.

1245
00:58:59.159 --> 00:59:00.119
Awesome. I appreciate that.

1246
00:59:00.159 --> 00:59:00.280
Man.

1247
00:59:00.320 --> 00:59:01.800
First, I want to say thanks for what an honor.

1248
00:59:02.000 --> 00:59:04.440
I consider you a friend man. You're a huge staple

1249
00:59:04.440 --> 00:59:07.039
in this community, and I'm just honored to come on

1250
00:59:07.079 --> 00:59:09.079
your show. Man so thank you for allowing me to

1251
00:59:09.079 --> 00:59:11.920
do that. And so I drop an episode every single Monday,

1252
00:59:12.119 --> 00:59:14.960
eleven o'clock Central. It's a real person, sure in their

1253
00:59:15.000 --> 00:59:18.199
first hand encounter. So those are Mondays. Thursday nights, I

1254
00:59:18.239 --> 00:59:21.079
do a live show seven thirty eight o'clock Central. It's

1255
00:59:21.079 --> 00:59:22.679
actually a live call in shows. If you want to

1256
00:59:22.679 --> 00:59:25.079
call into the show, we hang out. It's always fun,

1257
00:59:25.119 --> 00:59:27.639
we have a great time. It's really chill, relaxed. And

1258
00:59:27.639 --> 00:59:30.000
then another thing I've started to do, this is new

1259
00:59:30.440 --> 00:59:33.360
to the channel, is on those call in shows on Thursdays,

1260
00:59:33.360 --> 00:59:36.719
I take those and I clip those up into another episode,

1261
00:59:36.880 --> 00:59:38.920
kind of like an art bell type thing, and then

1262
00:59:38.960 --> 00:59:41.280
people you can sit and listen to these call ins

1263
00:59:41.280 --> 00:59:43.320
you know from people that because sometimes people are more

1264
00:59:43.360 --> 00:59:46.639
comfortable just calling or whatever. And so those drop on Saturdays,

1265
00:59:46.920 --> 00:59:49.800
primarily around four pm Central. So that's kind of what

1266
00:59:49.840 --> 00:59:52.639
my channel schedule is. You can always email me at

1267
00:59:52.719 --> 00:59:56.719
Mysteries Unknown Podcast at gmail dot com. I try my

1268
00:59:56.760 --> 00:59:59.519
best to respond to everybody who emails. So I would

1269
00:59:59.559 --> 01:00:01.599
love to talk to you, and it's just been an

1270
01:00:01.599 --> 01:00:02.239
honor to be here.

1271
01:00:02.280 --> 01:00:04.880
Man, have you ever heard all the accounts of bigfoot

1272
01:00:04.920 --> 01:00:08.559
activity around Oakridge, Oregon, and you think to yourself, Man,

1273
01:00:08.639 --> 01:00:11.079
I would love to get out in those woods and

1274
01:00:11.119 --> 01:00:16.159
experience it for myself. Well, guess what This year you can.

1275
01:00:16.840 --> 01:00:19.800
If this is interesting to you, stay tuned because it's

1276
01:00:19.800 --> 01:00:24.760
pretty cool. Sasquatch Summer Fest is coming up July tenth

1277
01:00:24.840 --> 01:00:28.440
through the eleventh, twenty twenty six. It's going to be

1278
01:00:28.519 --> 01:00:32.599
even better than the previous year's reason number one, I'll

1279
01:00:32.639 --> 01:00:34.960
be one of the speakers. It's going to be wild.

1280
01:00:35.079 --> 01:00:40.480
I'll probably I'll say this. There may be stuff you

1281
01:00:40.559 --> 01:00:47.119
haven't heard anywhere else, because let's just say sometimes it's well,

1282
01:00:47.239 --> 01:00:49.199
you just got to be there. We'll leave at that.

1283
01:00:49.360 --> 01:00:52.039
More about looking for Bigfoot in the Oakridge Woods. Now

1284
01:00:52.119 --> 01:00:57.239
check this out. You may know Jason Kenzie from his

1285
01:00:57.320 --> 01:01:02.280
documentary series Searching for Sasquatch. This year, you can not

1286
01:01:02.480 --> 01:01:06.480
only go to the festival, but you can also sign

1287
01:01:06.599 --> 01:01:13.480
up for a track deep in the wild forest outside

1288
01:01:13.519 --> 01:01:18.199
of Oakridge with Jason Kenzie to the Bigfoot spots to

1289
01:01:18.320 --> 01:01:21.880
look for Bigfoot. There's only eight spots to sign up

1290
01:01:21.920 --> 01:01:26.000
for this, and yes, this will also be filmed for

1291
01:01:26.159 --> 01:01:29.199
the next chapter in his documentary series, which is Searching

1292
01:01:29.199 --> 01:01:31.760
for Sasquatch. This is a once in a lifetime deal.

1293
01:01:31.920 --> 01:01:35.000
It's just it's going to be a wild, wild experience.

1294
01:01:36.639 --> 01:01:40.079
To get a ticket, head on over to Sasquatch Summerfest

1295
01:01:40.159 --> 01:01:44.719
dot com and listeners can use the code b SP

1296
01:01:46.039 --> 01:01:49.519
like Bigfoot Society Podcast in order to get a two

1297
01:01:49.599 --> 01:01:52.519
day pass for the price of a one day pass.

1298
01:01:52.960 --> 01:01:57.599
So thanks to Priscilla for giving me that code so

1299
01:01:57.679 --> 01:02:04.000
that you guys can you can get a little help

1300
01:02:04.039 --> 01:02:07.159
with the costs there. Appreciate that, Priscilla. I hope to

1301
01:02:07.199 --> 01:02:11.559
see you at the booth in Oakridge this year. We

1302
01:02:11.599 --> 01:02:13.880
can talk about your encounter. Was able to talk to

1303
01:02:13.960 --> 01:02:17.440
so many people last year and the year before. It

1304
01:02:17.599 --> 01:02:20.320
is an incredible time. You're not going to want to

1305
01:02:20.320 --> 01:02:24.840
miss it, and I'll see you there. Before we wrap

1306
01:02:24.880 --> 01:02:27.199
this episode, I want to say something directly to a

1307
01:02:27.320 --> 01:02:30.480
very specific group of listeners. If you're in the military,

1308
01:02:30.920 --> 01:02:34.239
any branch or forces, and if you've seen something that

1309
01:02:34.320 --> 01:02:37.159
no one can explain, or if you're a National Park

1310
01:02:37.239 --> 01:02:40.440
ranger or forestryt worker who's been told to stay quiet,

1311
01:02:41.159 --> 01:02:44.320
or if you're a pilot who's seen something strange down

1312
01:02:44.320 --> 01:02:46.880
on the ground, or if you're with the FBI, a

1313
01:02:46.960 --> 01:02:50.840
federal agency, or working intelligence and you stumbled upon something

1314
01:02:50.920 --> 01:02:54.559
you're not allowed to talk about. And if you're a firefighter, paramedic,

1315
01:02:54.679 --> 01:02:57.920
or search and rescue responder who's heard screams or found

1316
01:02:58.000 --> 01:03:01.000
tracks that didn't make sense. If you're in the logging

1317
01:03:01.039 --> 01:03:04.880
industry on a remote oil field or a trucker with

1318
01:03:04.960 --> 01:03:08.800
government contracts and you've had something happen that you've never

1319
01:03:08.880 --> 01:03:12.760
told a soul. And if you're a biologist, a wildlife specialist,

1320
01:03:12.920 --> 01:03:16.320
or a field researcher under contract who has found evidence

1321
01:03:16.440 --> 01:03:20.079
you're not allowed to report. If you're a pastor, a missionary,

1322
01:03:20.239 --> 01:03:23.360
or someone on a spiritual retreat and you saw something

1323
01:03:23.440 --> 01:03:27.199
that shook your faith, or if you work in the shadows, CIA,

1324
01:03:27.440 --> 01:03:30.800
NSA or anything with clearance and you've seen what the

1325
01:03:30.800 --> 01:03:35.440
public hasn't, then I want to talk to you, even

1326
01:03:35.480 --> 01:03:40.519
if it's anonymous. You can reach me at Bigfoot Society

1327
01:03:40.599 --> 01:03:43.639
at gmail dot com. The world needs to hear what

1328
01:03:43.679 --> 01:03:48.199
you've been forced to carry alone. And you're not alone.

1329
01:03:48.440 --> 01:03:53.519
You've got the story, We've got the mic. See you

1330
01:03:53.559 --> 01:03:56.119
in the woods. Thank you for listening to this episode

1331
01:03:56.119 --> 01:03:59.320
of the Bigfoot Society podcast. Every encounter we share reminds

1332
01:03:59.400 --> 01:04:01.880
us that the world is bigger and stranger than we think,

1333
01:04:02.599 --> 01:04:04.880
and that the truth is often hiding just beyond the

1334
01:04:04.920 --> 01:04:08.119
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1335
01:04:08.159 --> 01:04:10.760
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1336
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1337
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1338
01:04:16.960 --> 01:04:19.760
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1339
01:04:19.880 --> 01:04:22.119
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1340
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1341
01:04:26.119 --> 01:04:28.800
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1342
01:04:28.880 --> 01:04:31.800
has had a Bigfoot sighting, please I'd love to hear

1343
01:04:31.880 --> 01:04:35.039
from you, so email me at Bigfoot Society at gmail

1344
01:04:35.039 --> 01:04:38.360
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1345
01:04:38.360 --> 01:04:40.960
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1346
01:04:41.000 --> 01:04:44.639
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1347
01:04:44.639 --> 01:04:48.159
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1348
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1349
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1350
01:04:55.079 --> 01:04:58.000
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1351
01:04:58.039 --> 01:05:00.880
following along with the Bigfoot Society. Till next time, Keep

1352
01:05:00.920 --> 01:05:03.800
your eyes open, trust your gut and never stop asking

1353
01:05:03.880 --> 01:05:05.719
what else might be out there, And see you in

1354
01:05:05.800 --> 01:05:06.199
the woods