Missy Leigh Sterling Returns: Pale Crawlers

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Welcome to the Bigfoot Society. In
this special episode, I welcome Missy Lee

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Sterling back to the show to share
about her current work on pale crawlers and

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her upcoming documentary Pale About Them.
If you've had a pale crawler citing,

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please listen to this episode to find
out how to contact Missy to share your

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encounter to help with the upcoming documentary. But if you've had a Bigfoot encounter,

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you can reach out to me directly
at Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com.

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Society And now let's get on with the

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show. All right, Bigfoot Society. We got the privilege of talking to

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Missy Lee Sterling. I had interviewed
her about some research she was doing about

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a year ago, and it's a
privilege to be able to chat with her

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again on Bigfoot Society. But how's
it going tonight, Missy, I'm the

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privileged one. It's given well you
I had to stay with our you know,

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it's become a theme now because I
said that last time when you laugh,

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So I'd planned that all week.
Oh that's good, that's good.

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This is gonna be this is gonna
be a wild ride of an interview,

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for sure. I'm gonna love it. The first one we did in the

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Patreon. It's one of the favorites. Really. Oh yeah, totally.

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Yeah. A few people are saying
that there's probably a few people that haven't

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heard the first episode, which,
guys, I really recommend that you go

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back and listen to that first episode
because it talks about what Missy experienced and

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we go really really deep into her
research up to a certain point. But

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Missy, would you be able to
provide it? Yeah, a little recap,

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yeah, if you don't mind.
So it was around twenty eighteen,

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twenty nineteen. Actually I know now
that it was twenty eighteen because my mom

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passed in October and I have her
journals, and she journal about how she

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was worried I was going crazy.
So I mean obviously she came around.

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But okay, so twenty eighteen,
I was on my way to my house.

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I was leaving her house, headed
home to my house, and it's

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a windy road, you know,
two lane you go around a curve and

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you're kind of going uphill, and
then as you round the curve, you're

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going downhill and I see something ahead
of the road, and at first I

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thought it was a deer, and
I had this crazy fear come over me,

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like the hair on the back of
my neck sto up. And it

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didn't make sense to me, because
I need there was something ahead in the

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road, but I didn't think it
was anything unnatural. So as I got

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closer, it wasn't moving. And
then I'm in a complete stop and I'm

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on this creature and it is unlike
anything I'd ever seen before in my life.

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I mean, nightmare fuel. This
is the stuff nightmares are made of.

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It was pale, emaciated, huge
black eyes, a gape and open

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mouth, and it was just sitting
there on the road. I say sitting.

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I didn't see hands or feet,
but that's just because I was so

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fixated on its face. I don't
know how long we sat there, but

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eventually, you know, we did
part ways and I went home and I'm

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kind of battled with the am I
crazy, what just happened? If this

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exists? What else exists? I
decided to tell a friend and this is

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a girl I've known since we were
five, and so I thought, if

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I can tell anyone I can trust, I can tell this girl. So

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I explained everything that happened, and
I expected to feel better, but I

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did not because her face, she
had a look on her face like are

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you insane? And that helped.
She said, you know two things,

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missye one. You were going to
need to speak to someone. Definitely need

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to speak to someone too. It's
going to need to be a professional.

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I would like for you to make
an appointment. You do not need to

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tell anybody else this happened. Do
not repeat this story. This is your

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favorite part, Gema. She said, you cannot become one of those Bigfoot

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is real people, And I'm sitting
there like nodding in agreement with her,

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but in my mind, I'm like, Bigfoot probably is real. I mean

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I did in that moment because I
was just like, if this crazy skeleton

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looking humanoid thing exists and I didn't
know about that, what else do I

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not know about? And Bigfoot probably
is real? And oh no, what

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else could be out there? I
did end up making an appointment with a

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therapist. He I say, saved
me, really, because at first I

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was very angry when I went into
the appointment because I expected I wanted an

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answer. I wanted him to tell
me something was wrong with me. Here

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are your peeals, ma'am. You
can be on your way right. But

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that's not what happened. I told
him the story, and you know just

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I mean, it was like word
vomit. I couldn't stop, and he

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looks down and he looks up at
me, and I felt like he didn't

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believe me, and that was pretty
upsetting, and so I just blurted out,

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I'm like, you don't believe me, d And he's like, you

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know me. See, it doesn't
matter. It doesn't matter whether or not

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I believe you. What matters now
is what you're going to do with the

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situation you find yourself in. He
said, I do not think you were

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crazy. There's no history of mental
illness. You were not hallucinating. I

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think you were shaken, but you
will recover. But let me ask you

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this. And I'm getting ready to
leave right at this point, and I'm

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just furious, and he said,
have you considered that there could be other

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people who have experienced something similar to
what you did? And Jeremiah, that

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was that was it. That was
all it took. I went straight home

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and I was like, pale,
weird looking humanoid in rural area. I

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don't know exactly what I searched,
but that's when the you know, search

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history starts popping up and I'm seeing
all these stories and initially I was kind

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of I was disappointed because I thought
this is all fiction. But then I

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find crawler Sightings subreddit, and that's
kind of like the holy grail of this

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stuff because people I asked on there
once, I'm like, how many of

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us found this subreddit because we saw
something and we did a Google search and

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this is where it brought us an
oah, it was an overwhelming number of

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people. So I stayed up the
whole night reading through stories and that I

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was seeing that a lot of people
were mentioned in this trail cam photo and

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saying what I saw looked just like
the creature in the trail camphoto, even

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though that's been debunked. But they
were so insistent on letting everyone know they

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knew that picture was fake. It
was like they had to include that part.

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And I thought, well, that's
very odd. You know, I

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have a strange mind. I like
I look for little things like that,

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and I questioned them, so probably
fell asleep on my computer that night.

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Next morning I woke up and I
searched, you know, Crawler Trail camphoto

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and it popped up on the screen
and I vomited because that was I mean,

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it looked identical to what I'd seen
and I couldn't believe it. It

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was like right in front of my
face, and I thought, well,

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how could this be fake? How
could so many people say they saw this

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and it's fake. And that's when
I went real deep into trying to figure

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out exactly who said it was fake, why they said it was fake.

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You know what criteria was used?
This is this is on YouTube, the

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video investigation and you know this,
I successfully countered every claim that the picture

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was an authentic It's I believe it
to be an authentic picture, and since

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then a lot of other people do
too, So that was that was a

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success because at first I needed to
know for myself, but I think I

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kept going because I needed other people
to believe me because I didn't want to

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feel so crazy. You know that, it's the recap. After that,

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I started writing a book, and
then after the book, some other things

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came up, and it's a story
that just continues to unfold in ways that

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just blow my mind because I think
there can't possibly be anymore. We're at

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the end, and oh no,
here comes something else. There's a I

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found out a moofon a report and
movefon is the mutual UFO network. I

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believe I said that right, And
they've been around for a long time.

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They collect citing information and write reports
on it. And so I got a

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hold of that. A lot's happened
since. Got a documentary. Guys,

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the first episode. It's definitely worth
listening to because in recent times I haven't

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seen anyone else go into research on
something so intensely. It is fascinating the

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things that Missy did to look into
the history of that photograph, which you

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can picture in your mind right now. And yes, we are talking about

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the cryptid that is considered as the
rak Er, the Paiale Crawler, right,

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Missy, correct, Yeah, picture
in your mind, me sitting at

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my desk. Call okay, so
everybody thought it came from a video game

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called Insomnett Games. Picture. This
is how this is hell insane. I

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am calling that company daily trying to
find out information on if they were really

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the ones who put it out,
and I was threatened with having the police

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called on me. This woman says, you're really getting on mine. Irs,

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lady, I told you we don't
know anything, and of course they

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didn't because ten years had passed by
the time, you know, I came

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on the scene. But yeah,
that's how that's how crazy I went.

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And even the news anchor because there's
a there's a news story that was done

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on this and the and it's online
too, And I even contacted her.

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I sent her flower so that she
would call me and we had a nice

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conversation and we keep in touch to
this day. So yeah, I went

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deep. I don't I'm so extra. Someone told me once, missye,

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your perspective is a million miles deep
and an inch wide, and it pissed

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me off because it's true. That's
awesome. We have talked off and on

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about this situation since then, and
one of the things I really thought was

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fascinating is that when you started to
dig into the same area, you started

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to find other people that had seen
the creature as well. Correct, Yes,

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okay, so in my own area. Yes, the guy that cut

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my grass, you know, he
I think I told you this in the

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last interview. I had to hire
another yard guy and he, you know,

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comes over, well what do you
do? I work from home?

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Well what do you do from home? I write about what? And then,

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you know, I'm like, I
don't want to answer this, so

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I go into it. I start
telling him and he interrupts me, and

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he's like, wait a minute,
was it super skinny? And like really

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pale? And I was like,
is this guy kidding? Has he been

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tapping my phones like with a But
no, he had not been. He

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and his girlfriend saw the same creature, and I even Jeremiah. I went

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as far as to take out ads
in the local paper. Okay, so

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I'm the village idiot, and I'm
cool with that. I'll wear a T

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shirt that says it. I actually
have a T shirt that says that someone

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made me. People will make fun
of you, because that's just what they

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do. It's like, hive mind. You know, something a little bit

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strange. We don't understand it,
so we're gonna make fun of it because

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that makes us look real cool.
We shot a documentary, well the first

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part of it, in January,
and interviewed a couple of these people and

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I mean there are clusters of sightings. And it's very interesting because when you

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plot these points, when you have
the geographic location. And I found this,

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I say by accident. I don't
believe there are accidents anymore. It's

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I mean, if there are,
it's very hard for me to believe.

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But some god did this map,
and it's called the Map of the Dead,

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and it plots the points of all
of the cemeteries across the United States,

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and of course the South has a
lot more because of our history with

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the Civil War, and so you
overlay this crawler sightings map over the top

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of it. And because we have
less people per square mile and more places

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to hide, you would expect that
the sightings would be less because the population

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is not as dense. But that's
not what you see. What you see

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is a lot more sightings in these
areas around these cemeteries where you know the

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population is way less, it's way
less dance, there's way more surface area,

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and you don't see so many up
north where there's not as many graves.

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And I say that just because the
conclusion I have reached is that this

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thing is what was once referred to
as a ghoul or Gawa, and that

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is ancient. It predates Islam,
it goes back to ancient Mesopotamia. Actually

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got the chills from that realization when
you talked about overlapping the maps. That

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is wild talking about the clusters.
That actually leads me into one of the

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questions I have from one of my
Patriot members, Christopher. And Christopher wants

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to know, are there any updates
about the animal sanctuary that was next to

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her sighting? Has there been anything
else that's come up with that. There

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has, Yes, there has.
We go out and talk to them,

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but I've got to I've got to
hold back on that because that's in the

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documentary. And I can talk about
the documentary and a lot of things about

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it, but you guys are going
to lose it. Yeah, I love

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it. That's enough for me just
to know that, yes, there is

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an update and you gotta you gotta
wait, let's talk about what's happened with

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the documentary so far. A very
very good friend of mine. We work

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together on some things. He's pretty
well known. He does YouTube. Awesome

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guy. We you know, we'd
gotten to be good friends. And I

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was like, you know, I
know people are supposed to say, let's

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start a band, but let's do
a documentary because we're both nerds, right,

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And he was like, yeah,
let's do it. So we you

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know, we made the plans and
I came up with a funding on Owan

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and I was like, we're going
to do this. And when you have

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never done film before, which neither
of us have, it is, oh,

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I bet you and mister Breedlove could
tell you everything will fall apart and

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come back together a million times in
a day. And it is hard work

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and it is emotional and at the
at the end of the day, it

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just was not for him, not
because he's not capable, but you know,

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it just it was my project and
it was kind of hard to bring

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someone in who you know what I'm
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like even though it was hard,
and even though we hated, we kind

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of needed to probably part ways and
let me do this and then let him

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do his thing. And so now
we're at a point where we're going to

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have to do a part two of
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they say, what do they say, don't invest money, you can't afford

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to lease, And so I've invested
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now I'll have to crowdfund the rest, but I have no doubt it'll be

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made. I have all the faith
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my story, it's just such a
good story and it's not just about a

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monster. Like I went through a
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It was like life was one way. I saw this thing. I,

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you know, go on this journey
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and these are the things I found. These are the people that I found

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that have also seen it and what
in the high strangeness is going on here?

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You know? So I think it's
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I want to say this. Before
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oh, this this stuff is fake. You know this is and I

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knew they were doc many things that
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I thought, ah, this is
acting, and I'm going to tell

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you. I gave a final interview
and that's what you heard. And it

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was a little awkward to get started, but then once I did, it

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was like there was no camera there
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but it was just like all in
that moment I was realizing how affected

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I had been by this. I'm
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like, what do you do with
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thing happen and it's not normal,
and you get these sadways glances at the

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grocery store because everyone knows you're that
girl. You're that girl talking about that

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crazy stuff. And it was like
there was no camera there that, there

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was no acting, it was just
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group of strangers, basically because some
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a few days, just exactly what
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to me. It gave me a
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what they are because a good director, a good director of photography Seth knows

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this, I bet you anything.
They know exactly what to say to pull

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from someone what they need to pull. And you might even not, you

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might not even know you have that
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out of you. And they do
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how to pull it. And I
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The title is Pale by the way, the title of the documentary we

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called it. We titled it Pale
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know, it's just a pretty simple
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So that is exciting. There's definitely
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for people to look into helping with
that. Do you have all the people

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lined up that you would talk to
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or okay, so I've got this
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that sounds like just film, but
it's also called a asking director for a

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documentary. We want to follow more
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me and I am extra and I
just dove deep in and couldn't stop.

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But it's funny that people will have
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So we are looking for a couple
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to let us follow them, either
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and learn as much about them and
who they were before and what happened

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and who they are now as we
learn about me. But on top of

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that too, we want as many
stories as we can get. Anyone who

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is willing to get on a zoom
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through. I mean, you know, we want as much as we can

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get anybody who has a story for
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rakes, but yeah, that would
be fabulous. Anybody out there that's listening

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and either has a story of their
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definitely have them get in touch with
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in the US. Sounds like yeah, sure even I mean, okay,

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so we're only going to be able
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US or fly them to US.
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These things are seeing all over Australia, Ukraine, Poland any story you

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have, we want your zoom interview
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of people have Okay, so I
was very lucky I did not have an

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employer I had to answer to you
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We understand that some people do,
and they you know, they don't

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want to talk about it because they
don't want to lose a job. We're

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more than willing to if you want
to share your story. And I'm going

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to tell you it is very healing. It is very healing, especially to

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find a community of people who know
exactly what you're going through. We can

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with their their methods that we can
use to you know, ultra voices,

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blurfaces. But I mean I want, I want as many as we can

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get. I'll tell you what.
I've made some TikTok videos and I don't

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think we've really talked about this yet
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the interview. The pale crawler rate
community on TikTok is pretty wild. What

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do you mean. There's a lot
so if you if you go over to

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the Bigfoot Society TikTok, a lot
of people would would send me accounts and

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like I would, I would share
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it started to become very evident that
people were seeing something with the same description

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around the Lake Texoma area of Texas
and Oklahoma. That's interesting you say that,

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because that was okay when we start, when we start, this is

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crazy when we start filming again,
that's where we wanted to go. That's

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one of our destinations. Oh miss
oh, missy, you have to do

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everything in your power to go to
that area. Listen, not because of

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what you just said, just because
my director of photography is from there.

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Oh my goodness, this is like
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stop. It's wow. Let me
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the things, and I'm gonna have
to look through my messages and maybe try

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to see if I can get some
people hooked up with you. But I've

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had a guy working for the railroad
that he was on the train and he

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saw one of these things when he
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on the tracks behind the train.
I had a gentleman that was sending me

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photos. And this is all in
this like Lake Texoma area, but it's

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not just like and if you talk
to people around there, they're probably going

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to call it the Lakes Texoma creature
because I kind of might. I may

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have called it that, but it
may be a thing. But anyways,

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there's also like a lot of like
ghost sightings, paranormal sightings, bigfoot sightings.

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That whole area is like very very
steeped in weirdness. So to hear

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that you're already planning to go that
to that area super exciting to hear you're

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going to straight gold. Yeah,
it's funny you mentioned the paranormal stuff because

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when I was younger prior to this, citing My relationship to the paranormal was

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just as a kid, I saw
a lot of ghosts and I was asked

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like, well, what do you
think it's you or the house or the

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It's not just one person in one
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tend to believe that it's the land
more than anything when you're dealing with like,

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uh, you know, paranormal activity, But it's everywhere. It's not

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just one person. I mean,
we all love to think we're special.

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I mean I love to think that
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land, It's it's everywhere. It's
very pervasive, and I do believe that

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there are certain spots for some reason, be it lay lines or you know,

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magnetic field and amies. For some
reason, it's a lot more prevalent

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in certain areas. So that is
very interesting. I cannot wait to tell

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Sarah. Sarah is my projector my
projector what is she called? Director of

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photography? Come on, as you
get it together, that's what she is.

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That's awesome. Oh man, we'll
talk about this later too. But

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it's like, go over to the
TikTok that blew up, and you'll have

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to spend like two weeks looking through
all the comments. There's so many.

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I hope some of these people would
be willing to connect with me because the

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thing, you know, my cat, the casting director, she wants to

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make a Reddit and go on and
ask Reddit. They're so mean, They're

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just so Some of them are nice, and the ones that are nice are

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super nice, but they just constantly
are calling you a liar. You you

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put me in touch with a psychologist
and she says to you, I mean,

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you know the story. I've got
patients coming in talking to me about

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these things. And since then she
and I have got you put me in

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touch with her, We've gotten close, and she had some amazing things to

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say, and so I asked,
you know, permission, just to post

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a screenshot of a text, not
give any identifying information, because that's I'm

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not that could very very much harm
her career. But I share this and

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people are like, this was totally
made up. A psychologist wouldn't say this.

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That's a hip of violation. And
I'm like, you, guys,

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this is this is what they mean
by Reddit. Haveimind first of all,

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a hippo violation would be disclosing personal
patient data like their names. Second of

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all, her conversational style is not
required to be a certain way. They

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also said, oh yeah, I'm
a therapist too, and I would never

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talk that way. Well, that's
because that's you. It doesn't mean she's

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lying. So to hear that I
could get a TikTok and potentially find people

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who were not just jerks. You
know, that is very very exciting to

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me because I was a little concerned
about how we were going to go about

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that. So thank you, and
absolutely I probably I probably won't sleep tonight.

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I'm going to be on TikTok and
I'm you're not going to sleep for

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the next month. But thank you. You don't know what's coming. It's

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it's intense, so it'll be fun
to see what comes comes of that.

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You had sent another interesting thing my
way. You've been looking into something about

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giants in your state, So we
can go into that right now if you

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want to, or we can talk
about the move On report. Oh my

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goodness, yes, the move On
report totally. We often need to talk

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about the AI analysis of the chalk
can. Yes, let's do it.

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Okay, all right, so move
On report. So it reads, I

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want to tell you the background on
this, my friend, it was originally

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posted and they're talking about this chalcompette. This was originally posted on a hunting

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forum. I was dealing with a
similar type of creature on a video camera

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that was the subject of a serious
move On investigation in Mississippi, and that's

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where I live. This game camera
was from Berwick, Louisiana area, which

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is right outside of New Orleans.
The camera owner didn't want to be publicly

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identified, but was seriously freaked out
and gave the footage to one of his

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buddies to see if he could find
out anything something, anything about what this

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was. Then it appeared on the
local news. Neither of the two know

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how this image ended up on the
local news because neither one of them were

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responsible for sending it. But then
here we were because it was somewhat somewhere

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to the creature we had on the
videotape and not that far away. The

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moodfind investigators investigated the trail canfoto as
well, and I think that had been

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a few months earlier. The Moodfin
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Jeremiah Sliddale is in Mississippi. It
could be Louisiana, but she contacted the

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news reporter and at about that time, and the news reporter was declaring that

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it was a fake and what do
we know, Jeremiah. When I spoke

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to her, she told me the
same thing. She believed it was fake.

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She told him that someone called in
and told them that it was a

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fake. The someone claimed to know
the people involved, But the Move One

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investigator was able to get the name
of the person who submitted the game camera

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photo to the news station, and
not only did he did not being taken,

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he claimed he had never heard of, or met or knew anything about

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the individual that said the photo was
a fake and knew him. Okay,

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So what they're saying there is and
it's a little disjointed. The person who

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owned the photo is claiming they had
no idea who sent it in and knew

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nothing about that person. Whoever that
individual was who sent that picture in?

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Was wasn't you anonymous to these people
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Okay, So then it goes on
to say he also confirmed with the person

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that gave him the game Gramaphodo,
that he had no clue who that was,

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and neither did anybody else in the
area. So this guy shows up

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asking for this photo and no one
knows who he is, and he's the

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one that turned it into the news, and again no one in the area.

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It is a small town, no
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him before or anything like that.
And here's here's where it ends. The

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guy who actually took the picture said
it was complete bs, but it spoops

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the camera owner even more and he
wanted to just drop everything now and told

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him not to talk and told his
friend, don't talk to anyone about this

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anymore. The move One investigator then
went back to the news station to determine

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how they decided that the debunker was
credible and discovered that they hadn't done anything

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to decide that the photo or debunker
was credible, which was exactly what the

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news reporter told me. She said, you know, we didn't really do

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any investigation on our part, and
this is what she told me when I

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interviewed her. She said, I
was even scolded by our news director,

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like, don't run things unless you've
you know, checked them out. So

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in conclusion, they just decided that
the picture was believable because the creature was

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running around in the swamp, or
possibly made the debunker up because Moufin couldn't

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ever locate the guy who sent the
picture to the news. I knew all

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this for an absolute fact, and
I'm glad to go to court and put

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my hand on a bible. I
will take a lot of texture tests.

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00:29:42.839 --> 00:29:47.720
This is exactly what happened. The
only reason that I know any of this

409
00:29:48.000 --> 00:29:52.480
is because I was helping me Fond
as an investigator, and it occurred about

410
00:29:52.519 --> 00:29:57.759
ninety miles away from Louisiana, concerning
some creatures that resembled that didn't look anything

411
00:29:57.880 --> 00:30:04.559
like Grace layardre Grays, but without
the without the almond eyes. So that's

412
00:30:04.559 --> 00:30:08.200
how easy it is to debunk anything
in this country. Just make it up,

413
00:30:08.359 --> 00:30:11.519
make up that it was faked,
change a little detail, and the

414
00:30:11.519 --> 00:30:15.839
Internet does the rest of the work. And that's exactly what happened. Oh

415
00:30:15.880 --> 00:30:21.119
my goodness, that's that is wild, is it not? It's it's I

416
00:30:21.160 --> 00:30:26.599
mean it just to read that,
you know the validation because what he's saying,

417
00:30:27.160 --> 00:30:30.119
I know is true. I've got
the I and I'm going to release

418
00:30:30.160 --> 00:30:33.960
this too. My conversation with the
knees Anger, who aired it. She

419
00:30:34.160 --> 00:30:37.839
said those things that this guy is
saying, she said, I mean to

420
00:30:37.960 --> 00:30:41.400
a tea. She told me the
same thing, and that's you know,

421
00:30:41.839 --> 00:30:45.079
I mean, it would be really
hard for him to know what she said

422
00:30:45.079 --> 00:30:48.720
to me. This recording. I
have my conversation with her. It's it's

423
00:30:48.759 --> 00:30:52.799
over a year old, you know. And I found this move on or

424
00:30:52.839 --> 00:30:56.440
the guy alluding to the moof On
report. The actual report I'm still waiting

425
00:30:56.480 --> 00:31:00.000
on because it costs six hundred dollars. So, like, I mean,

426
00:31:00.039 --> 00:31:03.079
I filled out all the paperwork and
tried to get it sent to me,

427
00:31:03.119 --> 00:31:07.480
but it's going to take a little
bit longer. But I mean, I'm

428
00:31:07.519 --> 00:31:11.920
not surprised, you know, I'm
not surprised that this is this is what

429
00:31:11.960 --> 00:31:15.319
came of it. I mean,
this is what I knew. I just

430
00:31:15.359 --> 00:31:21.480
knew. So that's definitely very very
interesting. There are so many twists and

431
00:31:21.519 --> 00:31:26.480
turns for this story because because you're
presented with this and you just think,

432
00:31:27.039 --> 00:31:30.240
I mean and I'm not, I'm
not. You know me too, this

433
00:31:30.359 --> 00:31:34.759
is this is so absurd, like
how could it possibly be true? Right?

434
00:31:37.119 --> 00:31:40.839
And then you look into it and
you find out more and more and

435
00:31:41.119 --> 00:31:44.960
or not everybody, but somebody crazy
like me and you like, we just

436
00:31:45.079 --> 00:31:49.839
keep digging, right, And it's
still interesting that people, even presented with

437
00:31:49.920 --> 00:31:55.119
information like this hard proof, they
still can't accept it. And it used

438
00:31:55.119 --> 00:31:59.039
to really bother me because I wanted
everybody to understand this is happening. But

439
00:31:59.200 --> 00:32:01.680
I'm fine now with people. I
mean, why would I Why would I

440
00:32:01.720 --> 00:32:05.519
be upset that they didn't believe it. You know, they're entitled to believe

441
00:32:05.519 --> 00:32:07.240
what they want to believe, and
that's fine. They're not for me,

442
00:32:07.359 --> 00:32:10.680
But I know there is a group
of people out there who are all about

443
00:32:10.680 --> 00:32:14.519
this stuff, and so they are
for me. Those are the people I'm

444
00:32:14.519 --> 00:32:16.160
talking to. That's who I you
know, I get up in the morning,

445
00:32:16.279 --> 00:32:20.480
I do these things for them.
Like Christopher who had the question about

446
00:32:20.519 --> 00:32:23.319
the animal sanctuary. Yeah, I'll
remember his name and I'll you know,

447
00:32:23.960 --> 00:32:30.799
I don't mind giving Christopher a snink
peek. I'm pretty generous. So if

448
00:32:30.839 --> 00:32:32.240
you have, if you have the
ability to get in touch with him,

449
00:32:32.279 --> 00:32:37.319
I can give him a little bit
about what we found out was absolutely Yeah,

450
00:32:37.359 --> 00:32:40.680
we can make that happen for sure. Yeah, it's a documentary gonna

451
00:32:42.720 --> 00:32:54.559
go into If you think these are
creatures that are interdimensional. Well, I'm

452
00:32:54.559 --> 00:33:02.559
trying to be leveling or like they
are they attacking people or is it kind

453
00:33:02.599 --> 00:33:08.799
of a thing where they're just we're
not really sure if they're good or bad

454
00:33:08.920 --> 00:33:14.200
creatures. I guess maybe you could
say it. Okay, Yeah, I'm

455
00:33:14.200 --> 00:33:16.839
gonna give away a little bit from
the documentary. This. This may make

456
00:33:16.920 --> 00:33:21.799
me yeah, I'm sure this this
is small and and it may make me

457
00:33:22.000 --> 00:33:25.720
tear up, and this is just
my experience, but I don't I've never

458
00:33:25.839 --> 00:33:34.759
read a report of them attacking a
human. They flee And because of what

459
00:33:34.799 --> 00:33:37.359
I went through, for the entirety
of the process of you know, seeing

460
00:33:37.400 --> 00:33:44.200
it being one way my life changing. I've said I was probably not the

461
00:33:44.279 --> 00:33:52.039
nicest person, and this happened,
and my capacity for compassion just expanded,

462
00:33:52.519 --> 00:33:58.960
Like I suddenly was completely aware of
how my actions affected others. And I

463
00:33:59.119 --> 00:34:01.480
asked my partner at the time,
who was working on with me, I

464
00:34:01.519 --> 00:34:05.720
said, you know, this thing
is evil, and it certainly felt like

465
00:34:05.799 --> 00:34:09.119
it was evil. If it absorbs
some of your evil, is it really

466
00:34:09.519 --> 00:34:15.360
that bad? And he said,
you know that that's not so far fetched.

467
00:34:15.400 --> 00:34:21.559
Theologically, that's that's that makes sense. Could it absorb malignancy, and

468
00:34:21.760 --> 00:34:27.280
it's possible. It's possible that it
does, but that's my experience. That's

469
00:34:27.280 --> 00:34:30.679
why we want other people to tell
what they went through and how it affected

470
00:34:30.719 --> 00:34:37.320
them. But even if it absorbs
malignancy, I mean, I can thank

471
00:34:37.360 --> 00:34:42.119
it for that, but that could
also be. Anytime you go through something

472
00:34:42.159 --> 00:34:45.039
traumatic and harsh, you're changed,
you know, sometimes for better, sometimes

473
00:34:45.039 --> 00:34:50.679
for worse. But for me,
I was asked, you know, is

474
00:34:50.719 --> 00:34:52.800
this a good thing? Could you
say? This is almost a good thing

475
00:34:52.840 --> 00:34:57.280
that has happened, And oh,
man, I didn't like to say that.

476
00:34:57.480 --> 00:35:00.159
I didn't know I saw a monster. I have based a career on

477
00:35:00.559 --> 00:35:06.159
being one of those crazy monster hunters. But of course it's a good thing.

478
00:35:07.119 --> 00:35:09.599
I mean, I just get the
way I feel for my fellow human

479
00:35:09.639 --> 00:35:15.039
beings after here come to tears,
after going through something like that, just

480
00:35:16.280 --> 00:35:20.400
you look at someone and you think, oh, they're awful, or I

481
00:35:20.480 --> 00:35:23.079
used to, and now I just
think, I wonder what they've got going

482
00:35:23.119 --> 00:35:27.599
on, because you know, you
just you never know, you never know.

483
00:35:27.840 --> 00:35:31.800
So man, it's going to be
such an interesting documentary to watch,

484
00:35:31.880 --> 00:35:38.199
for sure, even knowing that the
information, Yeah, there's a lot more

485
00:35:38.239 --> 00:35:40.960
though I mean, I've shared some
because I think it's important too. But

486
00:35:42.599 --> 00:35:45.360
I have a publicist. She told
me what I could talk about. That's

487
00:35:45.400 --> 00:35:51.599
good. That would be cool to
have one of those. Look, if

488
00:35:51.639 --> 00:35:52.679
I didn't have her, I would
have just sat here and told you the

489
00:35:52.679 --> 00:35:58.360
whole thing. And you know what, would any way have watched we had

490
00:35:58.480 --> 00:36:04.119
AI like really be come and doing
this period. So I wondered, Well,

491
00:36:04.159 --> 00:36:07.159
first of all, I went on
upwork, and I was trying to

492
00:36:07.280 --> 00:36:13.119
hire a proper forensic analyst because I'm
an armchair right Like, I feel I

493
00:36:13.519 --> 00:36:19.119
did a very good job analyzing this
thing, but I surely a professional knows

494
00:36:19.119 --> 00:36:22.559
more than I do. So I'm
looking for people and I'm looking for them

495
00:36:22.599 --> 00:36:24.800
and then some guy tells me I
can do it, and I ask him,

496
00:36:24.840 --> 00:36:29.079
well, what methods will you use? Well, I will look into

497
00:36:29.119 --> 00:36:31.039
the layers, and I'm like,
dude, I know more than you do.

498
00:36:31.159 --> 00:36:36.159
JPEGs don't have layers. What are
you? Okay? What is happening?

499
00:36:36.280 --> 00:36:39.119
And so one of the recruiters,
because I paid extra to have a

500
00:36:39.159 --> 00:36:44.119
recruiter place me, and he says, Missy, there's not going to be

501
00:36:44.159 --> 00:36:49.079
anybody who can tell you about this
picture, like AI can run it through

502
00:36:49.079 --> 00:36:52.559
analysis see what they have to say. And I said, well, all

503
00:36:52.679 --> 00:36:57.480
right then, and that's exactly what
I did, and it is very very

504
00:36:57.480 --> 00:37:00.719
interesting. I'm not going to go
through the entirety of it because we went

505
00:37:00.800 --> 00:37:04.519
through so much. We went through
so much, but I asked it,

506
00:37:05.199 --> 00:37:07.719
and I'm going to put a video
out on this, the entirety of the

507
00:37:07.840 --> 00:37:13.639
AI analysis. But I said,
I uploaded the picture and I said,

508
00:37:13.719 --> 00:37:15.880
could you please? And I always
say please and thank you to chat.

509
00:37:15.960 --> 00:37:19.800
You know, you never know.
I would suggest everybody do that if they

510
00:37:19.840 --> 00:37:22.800
take us over. I want to
be one of the ones that was nice.

511
00:37:23.360 --> 00:37:28.880
Yeah, so sorry, I'll topic. But I said, hey,

512
00:37:28.960 --> 00:37:32.519
chat, because I used the chat
GPT analysis, the paid version. I

513
00:37:32.519 --> 00:37:37.440
said, could you please describe this
image for me? And it says,

514
00:37:37.559 --> 00:37:40.760
you know. This image is a
black and white photo, likely taken by

515
00:37:40.760 --> 00:37:46.039
a night vision trail camera given the
timestamp and the grain equality. It features

516
00:37:46.079 --> 00:37:52.159
a startled animal, possibly a primate, in that interesting that I caught it

517
00:37:52.199 --> 00:37:57.559
a primate. It has large reflective
eyes caught in the middle of the frame,

518
00:37:57.760 --> 00:38:00.800
looking directly at the camera. The
animalists crouched and seems to be in

519
00:38:00.880 --> 00:38:06.239
motion with a blurred appearance due to
the movement and the low light conditions.

520
00:38:06.599 --> 00:38:12.440
The background is dark and wooded,
typical of a night scene. So okay,

521
00:38:12.559 --> 00:38:15.559
that's what That's what I'm observing too, But I'm getting I mean,

522
00:38:15.599 --> 00:38:22.199
we went through looking at histogram profiles. We went through looking at I told

523
00:38:22.239 --> 00:38:25.800
AI that I wanted to know if
the image had been intentionally manipulated. So

524
00:38:25.960 --> 00:38:30.199
I wanted it to look at the
edges around the creature, and it said

525
00:38:30.239 --> 00:38:35.119
to determine if it has. If
the image has been manipulated, one would

526
00:38:35.119 --> 00:38:39.000
typically look for signs of inconsistencies in
lighting, shadows, edges, noise patterns,

527
00:38:39.039 --> 00:38:45.639
and compression artifacts. So then AI
asked me, if you know,

528
00:38:45.679 --> 00:38:50.440
do you want me to perform that
analysis? And so I said yes,

529
00:38:50.519 --> 00:38:54.320
and they did, and it says
that they processed the image with a have

530
00:38:54.440 --> 00:39:01.639
passed filter and they ran edge detection
and based on the filters, there were

531
00:39:01.719 --> 00:39:07.320
no clear signs of manipulation because they
would show up as irregular edges or inconsistent

532
00:39:07.400 --> 00:39:14.639
noise patterns around the primate and none
of these could be seen. So move

533
00:39:14.679 --> 00:39:19.360
into the very last question I asked, because there were a bunch more and

534
00:39:19.400 --> 00:39:22.519
I'll include this and probably in the
nerd section of the book. I'm going

535
00:39:22.559 --> 00:39:28.840
to do an extra chapter that's just
nerd section. Yeah. Well, you

536
00:39:28.880 --> 00:39:31.039
know the book. Initially I had
somebody go through it and they were like,

537
00:39:31.039 --> 00:39:34.440
mis see, this is a mess, And of course my ego was

538
00:39:34.440 --> 00:39:37.800
all wounded. But I kind of
crammed all the technical information into one single

539
00:39:37.920 --> 00:39:44.119
chapter, like assuming everyone thinks like
I do, which is crazy. So

540
00:39:44.719 --> 00:39:47.079
it was good that I had someone
who was okay to upset me a little

541
00:39:47.119 --> 00:39:52.519
bit and say, you know,
this could be better. So but okay.

542
00:39:52.559 --> 00:39:54.880
So by the time we get to
the end of the analysis, there

543
00:39:54.960 --> 00:40:00.840
was one last question I asked,
and it was was to me, the

544
00:40:00.880 --> 00:40:07.800
most profound. It went into discussing
the halo effect people were arguing about.

545
00:40:07.960 --> 00:40:10.199
I was right about that. It
was because of the washout Albeita. It

546
00:40:10.239 --> 00:40:17.239
was the problem with the camera adjusting
to light and dark. So here's here's

547
00:40:17.280 --> 00:40:22.000
the here's the kicker, all right, I said, So if an image

548
00:40:22.000 --> 00:40:30.639
is if an image was edited thirteen
years ago, the manipulation could the manipulation

549
00:40:30.599 --> 00:40:37.840
detection techniques we have available to us
today pick up on an edit or a

550
00:40:37.880 --> 00:40:44.760
manipulation that was done thirteen years ago. And it said, so, if

551
00:40:44.800 --> 00:40:49.719
an image was edited thirteen years ago, the manipulation could potent could potentially go

552
00:40:49.960 --> 00:40:53.760
undetected by the tools of that time. It might be more easily spotted with

553
00:40:53.840 --> 00:41:00.800
today's advanced analysis techniques. However,
the effectiveness of current tools can still depend

554
00:41:00.840 --> 00:41:05.199
on the quality and resolution of the
image, as well as a skill with

555
00:41:05.239 --> 00:41:09.440
which the manipulation was made. High
quality edits done by a skilled individual could

556
00:41:09.519 --> 00:41:17.199
still be challenging to detect with even
modern tools. But if an image created

557
00:41:17.239 --> 00:41:24.960
and manipulated thirteen years ago, we're
to be analyzed by the tools available today.

558
00:41:25.719 --> 00:41:31.280
Unless it was a unless it was
just a very small edit, the

559
00:41:31.440 --> 00:41:39.639
likelihood of it going undetected is virtually
impossible. Dang, I mean, does

560
00:41:39.679 --> 00:41:44.719
it not make sense? Yeah?
For sure. Yeah, and that when

561
00:41:44.760 --> 00:41:47.039
I read that, I'm not gonna
lie. I cried because I knew that,

562
00:41:47.400 --> 00:41:51.599
but just to read it like that, just to have it told me

563
00:41:51.679 --> 00:41:55.119
in that way that you know,
it was validating and validation as medicine,

564
00:41:55.199 --> 00:42:00.480
especially when you're dealing with high strangeness. And so I can't get all how

565
00:42:00.480 --> 00:42:05.880
it said primate a few times.
Well, listen, that's weird. Well,

566
00:42:06.000 --> 00:42:09.679
see, here's what's real? Weird
crafts on me a couple of times

567
00:42:10.039 --> 00:42:15.760
and I had to start over.
Initially it said deer, and that was

568
00:42:15.800 --> 00:42:22.480
strange to me because and this will
probably be a part two documentary. I've

569
00:42:22.519 --> 00:42:25.039
got some images I'm going to send
you, Jeremiah, where there is this

570
00:42:25.159 --> 00:42:31.519
halo or or it's like a mist
and these deer are coming in and out

571
00:42:31.519 --> 00:42:36.159
of this miss and kind of transforming. I don't know, no, no,

572
00:42:36.159 --> 00:42:40.760
no, no, yes, I
know not deer stuff. Could it

573
00:42:40.840 --> 00:42:46.599
be It's possible. Yeah, well, I mean that's what I'm thinking is

574
00:42:46.760 --> 00:42:51.239
portal. And one of the one
of the images that I have was sent

575
00:42:51.280 --> 00:42:54.320
to me by a guy who lives
down the road who would have been in

576
00:42:54.400 --> 00:42:58.960
a house like three doors down from
where I was when I saw this thing.

577
00:43:00.719 --> 00:43:04.719
Yeah. So there's just so much
you could fit into one documentary where

578
00:43:04.800 --> 00:43:07.800
you're gonna have to go, Okay, well, let's let's say this part

579
00:43:07.840 --> 00:43:09.559
for a part two because it's a
little bit you don't want to overwhelm people.

580
00:43:10.599 --> 00:43:16.280
The primate thing. Have you ever
considered I don't know even know how

581
00:43:16.320 --> 00:43:22.800
you would do this, but like
taking some computer program and taking that image

582
00:43:22.039 --> 00:43:25.719
and like adding hair to it.
Just to see what it would look like.

583
00:43:27.280 --> 00:43:30.320
I have, I have done that. It still doesn't it still does

584
00:43:30.360 --> 00:43:35.440
not look like any known primate.
Okay, you know, and if there

585
00:43:35.519 --> 00:43:38.639
is anybody who is a photoshop expert, I dabble. I'm self taught.

586
00:43:38.880 --> 00:43:44.559
I'm decent, but I'm not,
you know, a professional. I'm more

587
00:43:44.599 --> 00:43:46.280
than willing to give them what they
need. I would love I mean,

588
00:43:46.280 --> 00:43:50.199
I would love to see that done
by someone else, because different artists can

589
00:43:50.239 --> 00:43:54.639
have different interpretations. Right, So, but I had said, I wondered

590
00:43:54.760 --> 00:44:00.559
initially, is this a primate with
mange? Is this an albino because the

591
00:44:00.679 --> 00:44:06.039
arms are so long, just like
primate arms, right? Or is it

592
00:44:06.079 --> 00:44:10.480
a bigfoot with minge? You know? Is it? I don't. I

593
00:44:10.480 --> 00:44:15.039
don't know. I don't know.
I don't know. There was a very

594
00:44:15.079 --> 00:44:21.559
interesting story I got not too long
ago, and this guy saw a group

595
00:44:21.599 --> 00:44:23.559
of them in a field behind his
friend's house and he said, there were

596
00:44:23.679 --> 00:44:30.119
so many, so many. I've
got the I've actually got the story.

597
00:44:30.320 --> 00:44:35.039
A group of them, Wow,
he said, like fifty and so.

598
00:44:35.039 --> 00:44:37.840
So. First I read this and
I'm like, Okay, this guy's full

599
00:44:37.880 --> 00:44:39.559
of it, you know, But
then the more he gets into it,

600
00:44:40.679 --> 00:44:45.320
and then from what I know from
speaking to Rick grabbing it. Wait a

601
00:44:45.400 --> 00:44:47.679
minute, did I tell you I
spec Rick grabbing it? No, Okay,

602
00:44:47.719 --> 00:44:52.400
we talked because and let me know
later if it's something I need to

603
00:44:52.400 --> 00:44:57.840
cut out. But that's a gentleman
that had the video on the portrait correct.

604
00:44:57.880 --> 00:44:59.719
Yeah, we don't have to put
this. We don't want to go

605
00:44:59.760 --> 00:45:04.599
into Okay, So there was an
issue that came up. Rick had a

606
00:45:04.639 --> 00:45:10.039
friend I say friend with quote fingers. So the first video Rick put out

607
00:45:10.199 --> 00:45:15.039
was the one everybody is just so
freaked out by. Right, But then

608
00:45:15.079 --> 00:45:16.800
his friend says, you know,
Rick, you need to put on a

609
00:45:16.840 --> 00:45:21.280
costume and we need to paint you
white and record you so that we can

610
00:45:21.360 --> 00:45:24.440
let these people know how impossible it
would be that that was you out there.

611
00:45:24.960 --> 00:45:29.880
Now Rick thinks that's a great idea
because he's a down to earth guy.

612
00:45:29.960 --> 00:45:31.960
He sings, he's nice, I
mean, wonderful dude. Well,

613
00:45:32.000 --> 00:45:37.199
the friend's thinking, I can make
people think Rick faked this. Do you

614
00:45:37.239 --> 00:45:43.920
understand where I'm going with this?
And so because of the way it was

615
00:45:44.000 --> 00:45:49.719
done, it kind of unfortunately discredited
Rick in a way that was just super

616
00:45:49.800 --> 00:45:52.320
unfortunate. I will believe him till
the day I die, because I watched

617
00:45:52.320 --> 00:45:57.199
that thing move, and I've seen
one myself and other people who have seen

618
00:45:57.199 --> 00:46:01.000
them, there's no doubt in our
mind. But the phasing in and out

619
00:46:01.119 --> 00:46:06.960
type thing, I'm getting ahead of
myself. The guy the story, Okay,

620
00:46:07.719 --> 00:46:16.280
I'm about seeing fifty of them.
Okay, let's see where is it.

621
00:46:16.400 --> 00:46:20.000
Was that a guy who just randomly
reached out to you or is that

622
00:46:20.119 --> 00:46:25.079
like a Reddit thing? Both?
Okay, Yeah, that's what I read

623
00:46:25.159 --> 00:46:30.920
into a lot. People will reach
out and Reddit and people will just rip

624
00:46:30.960 --> 00:46:37.320
into him, and it's painful.
I really wish Reddit could kind of get

625
00:46:37.360 --> 00:46:39.679
out of that a little bit,
because, I mean, you're already on

626
00:46:39.760 --> 00:46:44.400
a sub reddit about high strangeness.
Why are you going to tell us why

627
00:46:44.440 --> 00:46:45.840
they didn't see what they saw or
that they're not telling the truth. You

628
00:46:45.880 --> 00:46:52.360
know, this guy, he doesn't
want his name mentioned, so he said

629
00:46:52.400 --> 00:47:00.719
to call him. I'm not gonna
repeat that. We'll call him guy Missy.

630
00:47:00.880 --> 00:47:04.400
I have seen hundreds of these things
at night in the woods and the

631
00:47:04.480 --> 00:47:09.559
rural areas around Memphis, Tennessee,
started around twenty twenty. They are tall,

632
00:47:09.719 --> 00:47:15.400
humanoid creatures with blacked out eyes,
and they moved slowly and in strange,

633
00:47:15.559 --> 00:47:20.280
jerky movements. The first time I
saw them, I was visiting a

634
00:47:20.360 --> 00:47:23.039
veteran friend of mine who was down
on his luck. It was about midnight

635
00:47:23.079 --> 00:47:29.960
on Thanksgiving in twenty twenty. He
had been living in a rundown camper vehicle

636
00:47:30.000 --> 00:47:34.039
at the edge of the woods on
his brother's property. Between his camper and

637
00:47:34.079 --> 00:47:37.960
the tree line, there was the
remains of an old trailer that had been

638
00:47:37.000 --> 00:47:44.280
destroyed by a tornado. There was
a street light on top and a pole

639
00:47:44.960 --> 00:47:49.559
that was used to run electricity to
the destroyed mobile home. On the other

640
00:47:49.639 --> 00:47:54.440
side of the pole was approximately fifteen
yards meters of a field that was an

641
00:47:54.480 --> 00:48:00.880
old dirt road that split in half
with tall grass and brush at the edge

642
00:48:00.960 --> 00:48:05.360
of the far side of the field, after which the tree line started.

643
00:48:06.559 --> 00:48:09.559
I thought that there were people hiding
there at first, because they seemed to

644
00:48:09.559 --> 00:48:14.800
be grouping more in the darker areas
where the light from the pole was not

645
00:48:15.000 --> 00:48:19.000
near as bright. So I asked
my friend about him, and he shrugged

646
00:48:19.000 --> 00:48:21.920
it off and said, oh,
well, you know, they've always been

647
00:48:21.960 --> 00:48:27.840
there and they don't bother me.
So he shrugs it off, and I'm

648
00:48:27.920 --> 00:48:31.559
thinking what, So he also told
me that no matter what you did,

649
00:48:31.639 --> 00:48:36.800
you could not get close to one. Well, me be in a combat

650
00:48:36.880 --> 00:48:40.000
veteran with two deployments under my belt
and my personal firearm for my vehicle,

651
00:48:40.199 --> 00:48:45.599
I tempted to approach these things.
As I got closer, I noticed that

652
00:48:45.639 --> 00:48:51.719
they were solid white creatures with solid
black eye sockets that moved in a jerky

653
00:48:51.800 --> 00:48:54.920
but very slow manner. There had
to be fifty or more in that field,

654
00:48:55.440 --> 00:49:00.719
down the dirt raid and at the
edge of the tree line and beyond.

655
00:49:00.920 --> 00:49:04.559
I continue to walk towards them,
and all of a sudden, they

656
00:49:04.559 --> 00:49:08.599
all looked at me, all at
once, with black, empty looking sockets,

657
00:49:08.679 --> 00:49:13.880
and instantly caused me to feel fear, more fear than I have ever

658
00:49:13.960 --> 00:49:17.159
felt in my entire life. I
did not approach that night. I turned

659
00:49:17.199 --> 00:49:22.480
away and got out of the area. My buddy I took him with me,

660
00:49:22.760 --> 00:49:25.719
and he said at my place.
For a few days. Since that

661
00:49:25.880 --> 00:49:30.880
first time I've seen them, I've
seen them about a dozen more times,

662
00:49:30.920 --> 00:49:37.880
always at night and around a wooded
area, at all different locations. I've

663
00:49:37.920 --> 00:49:39.880
since tried to run and catch them, and I have failed, because the

664
00:49:39.920 --> 00:49:45.719
creatures simply disappeared the moment I closed
in within five to ten yards and I

665
00:49:45.840 --> 00:49:51.760
lost direct eye contact for just a
mere flash. It's like they could phase

666
00:49:51.920 --> 00:49:54.480
in and out or something. If
you get close, you can see that

667
00:49:54.639 --> 00:50:00.760
the weird jerky movement, it's part
of them. Arms, legs had disappearing

668
00:50:00.360 --> 00:50:06.400
and then reappearing in a different position. I think they disappear anytime they move,

669
00:50:06.679 --> 00:50:10.400
so they can't be seen if they
walk. I've pumped forty five five

670
00:50:10.440 --> 00:50:15.960
point fifty six millimeter in sceniary rounds
from my AR fifteen into one of them

671
00:50:16.360 --> 00:50:22.400
without a single shred of evidence left
behind. These things do make audible noises.

672
00:50:23.559 --> 00:50:28.400
Animals see them, However, I've
tried to show them to people,

673
00:50:28.559 --> 00:50:31.159
and only about half of the people
i've shown them to actually see them.

674
00:50:32.079 --> 00:50:36.159
And I've wondered if I was losing
my mind, and if anyone else has

675
00:50:36.199 --> 00:50:40.559
seen them and or tried other experiments
with them. I've searched all over the

676
00:50:40.599 --> 00:50:45.400
internet and only found a few cryptic
creatures that share one or two similar things

677
00:50:45.400 --> 00:50:50.840
to them, but nothing that was
close enough for me to be satisfied.

678
00:50:51.239 --> 00:50:55.840
That is, until I came across
you in your video and your determination to

679
00:50:55.840 --> 00:51:00.800
figure out what is going on,
the thing that was really close was the

680
00:51:00.800 --> 00:51:04.920
origin of white zombies. I'm not
sure, missy, if you've heard of

681
00:51:04.960 --> 00:51:09.280
these, but it wasn't really that
either. There's been a few people tell

682
00:51:09.360 --> 00:51:15.000
me this is a shape shifting creature, but I don't know. They seem

683
00:51:15.039 --> 00:51:17.159
to be of different sizes. Some
are large, some are small, and

684
00:51:17.199 --> 00:51:21.960
they group up in what I came
to call family clusters, four to five

685
00:51:22.119 --> 00:51:27.599
of them, usually with two taller
ones and one small one or two smaller

686
00:51:28.360 --> 00:51:30.960
Missy, You've done an awesome job. Keep up the great work. Please

687
00:51:30.960 --> 00:51:36.559
don't ever quit, and please stand
touch. Yeah that was yeah, the

688
00:51:37.159 --> 00:51:40.159
the phasing in and out. That
goes back to what our private contractor says,

689
00:51:40.239 --> 00:51:45.599
right, oh yeah, yeah,
yeah, yeah, awesome. Yes,

690
00:51:46.800 --> 00:51:52.159
yes, but yeah, it made
sense to me when he talked about

691
00:51:52.199 --> 00:51:57.239
the phasing in and out. And
if you will go and look, I'll

692
00:51:57.239 --> 00:52:00.960
put this video. Rick has given
me full rights to use that video,

693
00:52:01.079 --> 00:52:07.400
and I have the original, and
I'm gonna tell you this, the one

694
00:52:07.440 --> 00:52:13.239
on YouTube it's not near as clear
as their original. And that goes back

695
00:52:13.280 --> 00:52:15.880
to that video of that moose on
the south of Rade. I swear the

696
00:52:15.920 --> 00:52:17.559
first time I swore the first time
I saw the video of the moase on

697
00:52:17.599 --> 00:52:21.760
the souther Raid. And if people
don't know what I'm talking about by the

698
00:52:21.800 --> 00:52:23.480
time of the episode is I will
have everything up on the website. You

699
00:52:23.519 --> 00:52:29.159
can you can reference when I first
saw that Jeremim, I thought wow,

700
00:52:29.599 --> 00:52:31.719
But then I saw it again and
I was like, I was positive.

701
00:52:31.760 --> 00:52:36.599
This thing was much clearer when I
saw it the first time. Same with

702
00:52:36.599 --> 00:52:40.000
the rid grabbing it video. It
is far more clear and it is jerky.

703
00:52:40.039 --> 00:52:44.599
The movements are crazy, and that
was my experience of seeing one.

704
00:52:44.679 --> 00:52:47.280
A lot of people described this,
and it could be that they are phasing

705
00:52:47.440 --> 00:52:53.320
in and out of existence. You
know, it's who knows wild all day.

706
00:52:55.239 --> 00:53:00.239
I love stories like this. I
absolutely love it when it's like you

707
00:53:00.360 --> 00:53:05.119
just start pulling a little bit out
of thread and just all starts going nuts.

708
00:53:05.800 --> 00:53:07.880
Yeah you know you said, yes, you said that to me.

709
00:53:08.400 --> 00:53:13.039
I think the first night that we
ever had our conversation. Yeah. I

710
00:53:13.079 --> 00:53:15.199
get up to get take a shower
and get ready for bed. I've got

711
00:53:15.239 --> 00:53:20.360
a thread stuck to the back of
my foot and I cannot find the end

712
00:53:20.360 --> 00:53:22.559
of it. And I was like, this is seriously happening right now,

713
00:53:22.079 --> 00:53:25.199
this is happening. Yeah, this
means we're supposed to be friends forever.

714
00:53:25.639 --> 00:53:30.000
Maybe that's what I don't know that
would you like to hear what I found

715
00:53:30.039 --> 00:53:37.320
out about the giant? Sure?
Okay, I don't know if this is

716
00:53:37.360 --> 00:53:39.719
going to be enough for a documentary. Well, actually I think it might

717
00:53:39.719 --> 00:53:45.719
be. Okay. So you hear
about giants corpses being recovered, right,

718
00:53:46.039 --> 00:53:52.079
and there's books written on the Smithsonian
apparently has this huge cover up going on.

719
00:53:52.800 --> 00:53:57.880
And in my research initially for these
crawlers, I got a quote from

720
00:53:57.880 --> 00:54:01.000
the Army Corps Engineers and a lot
of people would be surprised to know that

721
00:54:01.039 --> 00:54:06.559
the Army Corps Engineers collects a lot
of dinosaur fossils. Really, and one

722
00:54:06.559 --> 00:54:09.760
of them oh absolutely yeah, Well
because you know they're they're building dams,

723
00:54:09.840 --> 00:54:15.239
they're hollowing out areas, and they
take ownership of these. Yeah that makes

724
00:54:15.280 --> 00:54:21.360
sense. Yeah. So this woman
made this really interesting comment on their website

725
00:54:21.400 --> 00:54:27.679
and she said, we have a
collection that is so vast it expands the

726
00:54:27.880 --> 00:54:32.599
entire palaeontological record. And I thought, lady, that is a bold that

727
00:54:32.840 --> 00:54:37.880
is it? I mean, a
bold statement. So a lot of farmers

728
00:54:37.920 --> 00:54:43.480
back from the eighteen hundreds they talked
about finding these corpses and the Army corp

729
00:54:43.519 --> 00:54:49.079
of Engineers would come or some government
agency would come scoop them up. And

730
00:54:49.119 --> 00:54:53.039
so they say they're at the Smithsonian
Institute. Okay, but have you ever

731
00:54:53.159 --> 00:55:00.760
heard about a live giant being found? A live one today? As in

732
00:55:00.000 --> 00:55:05.559
well it was eighteen seventy seven,
Yeah, so yeah, today, I

733
00:55:05.559 --> 00:55:09.920
would say, I would think today, Yeah, okay, there's a news

734
00:55:10.000 --> 00:55:15.239
article and I'm like, you know, I think I'm probably gonna just I

735
00:55:15.320 --> 00:55:17.760
may do a video on this and
have it out by the time that your

736
00:55:17.800 --> 00:55:22.679
episode comes out. Okay, So
eighteen seventy seven, you have this news

737
00:55:22.760 --> 00:55:25.440
article come out. It talks about
a footprint that was found, and it

738
00:55:25.519 --> 00:55:30.719
talks about, you know, the
townsfolks getting scared and let me pull let

739
00:55:30.719 --> 00:55:35.079
me pull up my notes on this
real quick, because I've got some really

740
00:55:35.119 --> 00:55:40.480
good ones. And so the men
of the town decided to go see the

741
00:55:40.480 --> 00:55:45.559
footprint, and they took with them
some very well established gentlemen, a doctor,

742
00:55:45.719 --> 00:55:49.920
a reverend, because they felt like, you know, they're going to

743
00:55:49.960 --> 00:55:53.800
tell the truth. They're credible,
right, So they go and they look

744
00:55:53.960 --> 00:56:00.400
and they see that, in fact, it is a massive footprint and the

745
00:56:00.440 --> 00:56:04.000
town kind of goes into hysteria,
like what is what's going on? What

746
00:56:04.119 --> 00:56:07.559
is this thing? So the men
of the county, which would have been

747
00:56:07.599 --> 00:56:10.880
Jackson County, Alabama, which is
near Huntsville, and I do plan to

748
00:56:10.920 --> 00:56:15.719
go there and get some footage of
where all are awsome. Yeah, well

749
00:56:15.760 --> 00:56:20.679
I have to, you know,
I'm in Columbus, Mississippi, sometimes Millport,

750
00:56:20.679 --> 00:56:24.440
Alabama. So they get together their
posse and they're like, we're,

751
00:56:24.480 --> 00:56:28.559
you know, we're going to go
look for this thing. I'm not going

752
00:56:28.599 --> 00:56:30.880
to read the entire articles, but
I will put them on my website for

753
00:56:30.920 --> 00:56:37.440
people to download. But the headline
is Jackson County Giant, the most wonderful

754
00:56:37.480 --> 00:56:44.000
creature ever seen in Alabama. Supposed
it to be a species of the broadag

755
00:56:44.119 --> 00:56:46.119
nags. And I think that's from
Gulliver's travels. I don't think they had

756
00:56:46.119 --> 00:56:52.000
another word, but that's just what
they used. Caught. But makes makes

757
00:56:52.039 --> 00:56:57.679
his escape, and this is eighteen
seventy seven, and it goes into the

758
00:56:58.480 --> 00:57:01.639
the you know, the whole saga, the footprint, deciding they're gonna get

759
00:57:01.679 --> 00:57:06.800
three hundred men together and go look
for it. So this colonel goes and

760
00:57:06.840 --> 00:57:12.800
he climbs July Mountain, and he
has his spectacles and he's looking and he

761
00:57:12.960 --> 00:57:15.880
motions down below to the man.
Okay, i've got him, I see

762
00:57:15.960 --> 00:57:21.480
him. Let's go. So off
they go, and they approach the giant

763
00:57:21.639 --> 00:57:24.239
and he wakes from his slumber.
They say that bones are all over the

764
00:57:24.239 --> 00:57:30.920
ground from his morning feast, and
the dogs are hesitant to kind of attack

765
00:57:30.000 --> 00:57:32.679
him, but they, you know, some of them get brave and he

766
00:57:32.800 --> 00:57:37.280
starts picking them up and chucking them
at the men on the horses. Oh

767
00:57:37.360 --> 00:57:40.519
wow, yeah, Well, nobody
was hurt necessarily. But then he takes

768
00:57:40.519 --> 00:57:46.079
off running and he gets caught between
a gulch and it's my understanding that a

769
00:57:46.159 --> 00:57:51.360
gult is just two mountains that are
beside one another that kind of begin to

770
00:57:51.440 --> 00:57:55.559
narrow. So once he's caught in
that, they tie him up and they

771
00:57:55.559 --> 00:58:00.800
measure him, and one of the
colonels he's like, what a glorious job

772
00:58:00.880 --> 00:58:04.880
we've done, gentlemen, look at
this beast. What a glorious job.

773
00:58:04.960 --> 00:58:08.199
And I'm like, these I mean
people back then, they were of a

774
00:58:08.239 --> 00:58:14.599
different breed, right, Yeah,
So they measure him and I actually had

775
00:58:14.599 --> 00:58:19.519
a paleo artist recreate an image of
this thing and it is. I mean,

776
00:58:19.559 --> 00:58:21.800
you would think it would be bulky, but it wasn't. It was

777
00:58:21.920 --> 00:58:27.800
very bony. So they measure him
and unfortunately he makes his escape. He

778
00:58:27.840 --> 00:58:31.239
does, he pulls all the rapes
from his body and he takes off towards

779
00:58:31.239 --> 00:58:37.719
what they call San Sand Mountain.
Now, I went back and every single

780
00:58:37.760 --> 00:58:40.559
person mentioned in that article. I
made sure that it was actually a person

781
00:58:40.599 --> 00:58:44.360
who lived and died. I want, you know, because that matters to

782
00:58:44.400 --> 00:58:47.840
me, right, that's the credibility
aspect of it. And then something very

783
00:58:47.840 --> 00:58:52.960
interesting happens. In nineteen thirty six. You get another article about this thing

784
00:58:52.000 --> 00:58:55.199
because interest is building again, you
know, people are asking about it.

785
00:58:55.360 --> 00:59:01.079
And the author or the writer of
the art article, he quotes the original

786
00:59:01.119 --> 00:59:07.599
eighteen seventy seven article, but he
kind of leaves something pretty important out and

787
00:59:07.679 --> 00:59:13.840
says that he never that the group
never did catch the giant or see the

788
00:59:13.880 --> 00:59:20.239
giant. And I'm like, that's
really strange because its detail to leave out.

789
00:59:20.639 --> 00:59:25.360
Yeah. Absolutely, And they've got
this other guy. His name is

790
00:59:25.519 --> 00:59:31.199
Europe. What was it Europe,
Yeah, Europe cart called well. Now,

791
00:59:31.239 --> 00:59:35.679
his brother was one of the ones
that went out and measured the giant,

792
00:59:35.719 --> 00:59:38.960
and his brother was King Caldwell,
so Europe Calledwell in nineteen thirty six,

793
00:59:39.039 --> 00:59:44.639
is on his deathbed, and he
said, oh yeah, we just

794
00:59:44.920 --> 00:59:50.280
we all said that just to prevent
people from stealing chickens. And then he

795
00:59:50.320 --> 00:59:54.360
says something very interesting, Jeremiah.
He says, you know, none of

796
00:59:54.360 --> 01:00:00.360
the more educated folks actually believed there
was a giant. That's a tactic because

797
01:00:00.360 --> 01:00:06.360
if you can take a marginalized group
with society and have this story or this

798
01:00:06.440 --> 01:00:10.039
belief and just attribute it to them, then it makes others not want to

799
01:00:10.039 --> 01:00:15.000
be attributed to that. They will
automatically not believe it. That's manipulation at

800
01:00:15.000 --> 01:00:22.199
its finest. No, Europe called
Well. Something else interesting about him.

801
01:00:22.360 --> 01:00:28.119
He had a sister called Almeida,
and King Caldwell is the gentleman who went

802
01:00:28.239 --> 01:00:30.599
to help find the giant. And
this is Europe's older brother. Now,

803
01:00:30.679 --> 01:00:36.400
for some reason, Almeida wanted her
brother to have nothing to do her brother,

804
01:00:36.480 --> 01:00:39.920
Europe nothing to do with her estate. And that's family drama, and

805
01:00:39.960 --> 01:00:44.840
I can only speculate. But for
whatever reason, she didn't think very highly

806
01:00:44.880 --> 01:00:47.960
of Europe. And so we're here
we have Europe telling people that it was

807
01:00:49.000 --> 01:00:52.280
all just a fake thing, that
happened. Somebody put on stilts and put

808
01:00:52.320 --> 01:00:57.960
those prints in the ground, and
there was no giant. But for some

809
01:00:58.000 --> 01:01:04.000
reason Almeida did not like Europe and
left her entire fortune to her brother King.

810
01:01:04.599 --> 01:01:07.599
Well, she did not count on
King passing away before Europe, and

811
01:01:07.639 --> 01:01:12.199
that's what happened. And so just
by intercession laws, which are you know,

812
01:01:12.760 --> 01:01:17.360
inheritance laws Europe, the guy who
was probably fibbing, he was able

813
01:01:17.400 --> 01:01:22.880
to participate in his sister's estate.
So that's that's what kind of got Europe

814
01:01:22.920 --> 01:01:29.519
is. But we have got I
think what we have here is a antique

815
01:01:30.159 --> 01:01:36.800
article of fake news that is finest
and and what's fake is there actually was

816
01:01:36.840 --> 01:01:39.920
a giant that was captured then.
And here's the last thing I'm gonna say

817
01:01:39.920 --> 01:01:49.519
about it. The Cherokeys have a
legend about the slant ad giants. And

818
01:01:50.239 --> 01:01:54.679
I wondered because because people seem not
to be orientalized, but I wondered if

819
01:01:54.679 --> 01:01:59.000
something got lost in translation, maybe, So I asked a friend of mine,

820
01:02:00.239 --> 01:02:02.559
if I were to say this,
what does this mean? Does this

821
01:02:02.639 --> 01:02:08.119
mean you know their eyes are more
shaped almond? And they said no,

822
01:02:08.440 --> 01:02:14.400
that means they open perpendicularly side to
side instead of up and down. Oh

823
01:02:14.400 --> 01:02:19.000
wow, And that was one of
the exact descriptions that was given. So

824
01:02:19.159 --> 01:02:23.679
did you talk to someone who is
familiar with the Cherokee language. Yes,

825
01:02:23.960 --> 01:02:28.400
yes, wow. And they said
that they said, so much is lost

826
01:02:28.440 --> 01:02:31.079
in translation. And so I asked, I said, would it be fair

827
01:02:31.119 --> 01:02:36.920
to say that a lot of these
legends you guys have that people call mess

828
01:02:37.159 --> 01:02:39.840
these aren't missed at all. These
are your experiences that you're sharing, and

829
01:02:39.880 --> 01:02:44.079
people are kind of, you know, brushing them off as if they're just

830
01:02:44.199 --> 01:02:47.360
nothing. And the guy got a
tear in his eye and he was like,

831
01:02:47.400 --> 01:02:52.280
you get it, And that was
very Yeah, here I go get

832
01:02:52.320 --> 01:02:54.440
an emotional again. That meant a
lot to me because the amount of respect

833
01:02:54.519 --> 01:02:59.559
I have just you know. And
then the I'm so sorry for what my

834
01:02:59.559 --> 01:03:01.840
ancestor did. Even though I'm told
it's not your fault. You didn't make

835
01:03:01.880 --> 01:03:06.800
this choice, we inherited it.
I still feel a responsibility for what was

836
01:03:06.840 --> 01:03:09.760
taken from them. Sure. So
the fact that he was willing to talk

837
01:03:09.800 --> 01:03:14.159
with me about that and confirmed that, yes, this is what it means,

838
01:03:14.199 --> 01:03:17.159
this is what you know. The
slanny giants their eyes opened side to

839
01:03:17.239 --> 01:03:22.639
side and stood up up and down. So that, Yeah, that was

840
01:03:22.679 --> 01:03:25.840
a really interesting one because this isn't
poems. This is a live giant that

841
01:03:25.880 --> 01:03:32.280
they were chasing down. So man, when I remember when I was reading

842
01:03:32.320 --> 01:03:37.199
all the stuff you were sending over
and I was like, this is wild,

843
01:03:37.239 --> 01:03:39.599
and I don't know how she has
the time to look into this on

844
01:03:39.679 --> 01:03:45.400
top of all the other stuff she's
doing. It's well, wow, it

845
01:03:45.480 --> 01:03:49.760
is intense. I'll tell you how. I'm just driven by something that I

846
01:03:49.800 --> 01:03:52.159
cannot even explain, and I can't. I mean, it's fun for me.

847
01:03:52.239 --> 01:03:57.159
I can't stop. I can't stop. The people who were mentioned in

848
01:03:57.199 --> 01:04:00.679
the articles, I went back.
I found their pictures when they were available,

849
01:04:00.719 --> 01:04:03.519
I found their headstones. I wanted
to know that these were actual people

850
01:04:03.559 --> 01:04:08.000
who lived and died, and I
found pretty much every one of them.

851
01:04:08.760 --> 01:04:13.960
I don't know if I'll go to
Jackson County, Alabama before the documentary shooting,

852
01:04:14.199 --> 01:04:17.079
probably because we're you know, we're
still needing a couple of subjects,

853
01:04:17.079 --> 01:04:20.599
and I'm gonna hit up Reddit if
you'll link me or maybe introduce me and

854
01:04:20.639 --> 01:04:23.800
be like, hey, this is
Missy. She's cool, she's not gonna

855
01:04:23.800 --> 01:04:28.039
make fun of you. She needs
some help. That would be great because

856
01:04:28.639 --> 01:04:30.119
sometimes I can rub people the wrong
way. I don't mean to. I

857
01:04:30.199 --> 01:04:34.920
love everyone, but you know,
they think that I'm a little crazy.

858
01:04:35.400 --> 01:04:40.159
I don't think so. I think
the TikTok community would love you, and

859
01:04:42.000 --> 01:04:45.719
man, that is just it's such
a good community. See people say that

860
01:04:46.159 --> 01:04:50.440
they make fun of you, and
I I'm sensitive. I don't like to

861
01:04:51.039 --> 01:04:55.599
Well, okay, so yeah,
I have a little bit of thick skin.

862
01:04:55.719 --> 01:04:59.679
But I've you know, I've looked
into stuff on Reddit and like it

863
01:04:59.719 --> 01:05:03.119
gets rough there. But the people
that are into a subject on TikTok and

864
01:05:03.159 --> 01:05:09.239
they're for it. Man. They
were like, I've gotten accounts on that

865
01:05:09.920 --> 01:05:13.920
platform. I mean, people talk
on that platform about what they've seen.

866
01:05:14.000 --> 01:05:17.559
They haven't shared it anywhere else.
It's a really unique platform. And the

867
01:05:17.639 --> 01:05:23.480
algorithm is so strong. It's extremely
strong. If you started to make tiktoks

868
01:05:23.480 --> 01:05:27.199
about pale crawlers and rakes, that's
funny. You say that I'm like scared

869
01:05:27.239 --> 01:05:30.920
of TikTok, But I started on
Reddit. That's where I started sparring with

870
01:05:30.960 --> 01:05:32.920
people, and you know, and
I didn't bother me, So I think

871
01:05:32.960 --> 01:05:36.519
I'll be fun. Oh yeah,
well, it'll be interesting to see you

872
01:05:36.559 --> 01:05:41.679
where this all heads next. But
Missy, it has been a delight talking

873
01:05:41.679 --> 01:05:45.599
to you again. Of course,
I always have so much fun. I'm

874
01:05:45.679 --> 01:05:49.119
interviewing you one day, that would
be fun. Yeah, absolutely absolutely.

875
01:05:49.400 --> 01:05:55.039
Do you mind before we head out, just reminding people how they can keep

876
01:05:55.119 --> 01:06:00.320
up today with what you're doing,
how they can contact you about helping out

877
01:06:00.400 --> 01:06:04.119
with the documentary and all that.
Sure. Yeah, I'm gonna give my

878
01:06:04.199 --> 01:06:09.159
phone number. I've got two,
one for work and one for a professional.

879
01:06:09.239 --> 01:06:12.920
But my phone number, and I'll
put it on my website too.

880
01:06:12.920 --> 01:06:17.920
It's US one six sixty two four
nine seven twenty nine zero four. And

881
01:06:18.000 --> 01:06:23.039
to contact me, I'm on Facebook, but I'm really bad about replying the

882
01:06:23.079 --> 01:06:27.559
messages, so probably the best way
would be to go to my website.

883
01:06:27.920 --> 01:06:32.960
There's a contact form, you know, and I'll have all my other information,

884
01:06:33.039 --> 01:06:35.719
my phone number, everything. It
will be right there, and I

885
01:06:35.960 --> 01:06:40.320
will tell you if you're gonna call
me or contact me through my cell phone,

886
01:06:40.559 --> 01:06:44.840
text me first, because I have
a lot of anxiety sometimes and if

887
01:06:44.880 --> 01:06:47.840
I don't recognize number, I will
not answer. So yeah, but my

888
01:06:47.880 --> 01:06:51.880
website and it's Missy Lee Starling dot
com. That's M I S S Y

889
01:06:53.960 --> 01:06:59.440
L E. I g H S
T E R L I N G.

890
01:07:00.199 --> 01:07:02.199
And before I forget, I do
want to say to Christopher, thank you

891
01:07:02.239 --> 01:07:06.079
so much for that question, because
it just feels good to know people listen

892
01:07:06.239 --> 01:07:10.440
and I appreciate that. Ah,
that's nice. Yeah, he will be

893
01:07:10.840 --> 01:07:15.039
excited to hear that, and then
I'll get you guys connected. Thank you

894
01:07:15.079 --> 01:07:18.679
so much for coming on, Missy. It has been a pleasure. Ah,

895
01:07:18.760 --> 01:07:23.719
You're my favorite and you know it
anytime. Again, a special thank

896
01:07:23.719 --> 01:07:27.800
you to Missy Lee Striling for coming
back on the podcast to share what's going

897
01:07:27.840 --> 01:07:31.679
on in her world. If you
want to share your Pale Caller encounter with

898
01:07:31.760 --> 01:07:36.159
her, and please do head on
over to missus Lee Striling dot com.

899
01:07:36.159 --> 01:07:40.559
The links are in the show notes. Also, you'll find out there how

900
01:07:40.599 --> 01:07:45.280
you can help make Pale the documentary
a reality. Do you wish there was

901
01:07:45.280 --> 01:07:47.880
more to this conversation with Missy,
Well there is. There's an extra thirty

902
01:07:47.960 --> 01:07:55.280
nine minute She's stuck around and answered
these Strange Days Conversation questions where we talk

903
01:07:55.400 --> 01:08:00.159
all about her viewpoint on the paranormal
and what'll happen and in her past.

904
01:08:00.599 --> 01:08:04.800
That is very, very interesting.
You won't want to miss this conversation.

905
01:08:05.239 --> 01:08:11.920
It gets a lot deeper into things
that we're kind of just touched upon in

906
01:08:12.000 --> 01:08:15.640
this interview. In order to hear
the Strange Days portion of this interview,

907
01:08:15.720 --> 01:08:18.520
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908
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909
01:08:25.279 --> 01:08:30.399
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910
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911
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912
01:08:38.199 --> 01:08:43.079
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913
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914
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915
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916
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917
01:09:00.479 --> 01:09:04.399
going to use this space this week
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918
01:09:04.439 --> 01:09:10.800
Summerfest and Oakridge organ as an atender. I won't be presenting or anything,

919
01:09:10.800 --> 01:09:15.119
but I'll be hanging out trying to
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920
01:09:15.479 --> 01:09:18.760
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921
01:09:18.760 --> 01:09:24.039
experience, please contact me directly Bigfoot
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922
01:09:24.159 --> 01:09:28.520
Priscilla was nice enough that if you
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923
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924
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925
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926
01:09:43.960 --> 01:09:47.960
A special thank you to all the
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927
01:09:48.039 --> 01:09:53.359
It's your support that helps keep the
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928
01:09:54.039 --> 01:10:00.399
I had a listener comment, hey, what's a current update with the road

929
01:10:00.640 --> 01:10:04.439
to getting to full time. Well, here's the deal. The push,

930
01:10:04.520 --> 01:10:09.399
as if you've seen on social media, is well, now I've kind of

931
01:10:09.439 --> 01:10:14.479
tweet it a little bit, so
amount of calculations, once we get eight

932
01:10:14.560 --> 01:10:18.039
hundred and twenty four people in the
Patreon, we should be good to go.

933
01:10:18.680 --> 01:10:23.159
So what I did is we're going
to do it a little bit differently.

934
01:10:23.560 --> 01:10:29.640
It's now adding the current amount plus
the amount that are joining, and

935
01:10:29.680 --> 01:10:32.039
there's tons of people joining every day. It's wild, guys. So right

936
01:10:32.079 --> 01:10:35.880
now, where one hundred and seventy
six members are in there ready to go

937
01:10:36.159 --> 01:10:42.000
out of the eight hundred and twenty
four that are needed in order for us

938
01:10:42.039 --> 01:10:45.760
to go full time, that puts
us at about twenty two percent. So

939
01:10:46.680 --> 01:10:50.239
if you've been putting around back and
forth the idea of joining the Big For

940
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Society Patreon, now's the time.
I'm telling you it's time to check it

941
01:10:56.399 --> 01:11:01.319
out. Seven dollars a month starts
fifteen dollars a month as well. Seven

942
01:11:01.359 --> 01:11:05.640
dollars a month is a great place
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943
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945
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YouTube as well. But thanks again
so much for listening, guys. Her

946
01:12:08.079 --> 01:12:10.640
and I can get out of here. We can tell our stories. Maybe

947
01:12:10.680 --> 01:12:15.119
there's somebody else out there listening it's
too afraid to tell their story. Maybe

948
01:12:15.159 --> 01:12:17.479
this will give them the courage to
come out. And now I feel so

949
01:12:17.600 --> 01:12:21.199
bad about it. Who cares what
anybody thinks. I know what I saw.

950
01:12:21.680 --> 01:12:42.079
I know what's out there, that's
all I care about. Please let

951
01:12:42.119 --> 01:12:45.720
people know, Please let them know. If you ever see one of these

952
01:12:45.800 --> 01:12:50.760
things, you need to tell because
if you don't, then shame on you,

953
01:12:50.760 --> 01:13:00.319
you know, shame on you.
No