Montana Bigfoot DNA Discovery / Unseen Sasquatch Trail Cam Photos / Ken Medsker

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Now that's what I sent samples to
four laps. Like I told you,

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their quoted help Alpha, Brobot,
Charlie and David. Okay, the plimary

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result it okay, so really really
can yes, wow, can you?

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Okay, I'm gonna ask questions and
then you can shut me down. That's

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what I do is, yeah,
I'm going to marry. They're doing further

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testing. I can really see a
preliminary DNA results from the labs. All

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right, big for say, you've
got the privilege of talking to miss Ken

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Metzker again from the Montana Bigfoot International
Research Group. How's it going Ken?

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It's going really good. It's going
really good, Jeremiah, awesome. And

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we had talked way back. I
looked it up in my records and it

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was about forty three or forty four
episodes ago, episode two twenty back in

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February, I think the Montana episode, and a lot of people really liked

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that one. But you had you
know, I was out out on the

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town Saturday night. I got a
message from Ken and he was like,

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we got to talk. It's pretty
important. I was like, oh,

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man, if Ken says it's important, we got a chat. So we

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set something up pretty quick. But
Ken, what brings you back? Man?

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How's it going in Montana? It's
it's going good. Like I was

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telling you, I just come out
of eleven days in the Swan here in

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western Montana. Oh wow. We
had a base camp. We did recover

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scat which I did send out to
four labs and they're coded due to confidentiality.

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I call them Alpha, Brago,
Charlie, and Delta, and I'll

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give you the prominent results from them. Also some photographs and video I couldn't

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find. The one video that was
recorded was sent to a photo analyst.

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Oh wow, and we have a
lot happened. Yeah. Let's let's start

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with so that the listeners are on
on board with us, talk a little

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bit about what exactly the Swan is. Okay, the Swan. If you

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go up the Blackfoot River, you
swing north through City Lake, Big Salmon

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City Lake. You'll take you all
the way up into East Glacier so you

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can go into Glacier Park there and
then on into Canada. From there,

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it cross over the divide and you
drop into eastern Montana. The Swan.

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It nestles between the Mission Mountains and
the Swan Range, which is a backbone

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of the Bob Martial Wilderness. So
there's a massive area, a lot of

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small lakes streams in there within a
radius of ten miles of location, which

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I'm not going to give out because
I don't want everybody going in there right

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now with what's coming. Oh,
there's probably came eleven streams, nine ten

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lakes, small lakes. Now those
are now critical and I'll explain that when

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we get to the DNA and what
the requests and the lots are requesting for

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me. Gotcha. So it's not
easy to get to this area, is

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what I'm picking up. Well,
you can drive right up through the middle

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of it. We're going to main
highways, the off roads, some of

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them are good, some require four
wheel drive. All right enough, And

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what was it that first drew you
to this area to look for bigfoot in

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this area called the swan Can.
Well, the two years ago, remember

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the video of the juvenile that came
into the camp. Yes, that's what

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Jeff had talked to me about it. He had seen footprints and in the

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snow just basically the same area.
So we decided let's let's do our first

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initial investigation in the swan and after
that I've returned two three times a year.

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This year it's more productive because I
spent eleven days. Gotcha, gotcha?

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So where would you like to start, sir? Would you like to

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talk about who is with you and
in the swan, or what the plan

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of attack in the swan was,
or or what would you like to start

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with? Well, let's let's take
I had mentioned in the previous one of

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the Saint Mary's I was one field
research on my son's stepson's wife's property.

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Okay, and I sent you the
two photographs have taken off the same trail

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camp. Yep, the top one
you bring up, looks at it,

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you actually see the shoulder and the
hair in the side of the neck as

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it walked up to the camera.
Let me see if I can or a

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next one. Yep, okay,
here we go. That one all right?

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If you see on it, you
can see the shoulder and the neck.

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Now what really and we didn't see
that at first? Is the next

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one? If you look at it
and then large it, you can actually

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see the fingernail of the bigfoot,
his arm and hair and how muscular that

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army is. Oh, you're talking
about it. It's in the let's say,

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if there's four quadrants to the photo, the left, the left,

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Yeah, upper the left. Do
you see the fingernail? Oh, I

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can actually do Okay, So that's
a thing. So usually Ken, when

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I get photos like this, I'm
like, Okay, where's the red circles?

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But I'm like, I I picked
up on that before you said anything.

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I was like, what's going on
in that upper left quadrant? That's

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really interesting, the definitive proof of
Bigfoot on that property. Man, There

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is no if then butts about what
that hand is. And as far as

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I know, this is the first
actual photograph of a fingernail of Bigfoot.

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Wow. How how high was this
off the ground? This drug can was

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seven feet off the ground. Oh
wow. And what's really neat about it?

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It's not a blurry photograph. It's
you can see the hair on the

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arm. I'll pick that arm,
is the hair on the hand, the

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shoulder and everything. Man, that
that's wild. It's that's really crazy.

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Have these haven't been shared anywhere?
Have they except to the group. It's

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like, oh, yeah, right
to the Montana Group of course. Yeah.

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Man, So yes, your viewers, this is the first time anybody

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outside of the group has actually seen
these two photographs. Wow, I'm sure

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you had these analyzed in certain ways. Yes, they're more impressive on a

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seventy TV. I'm sure they are. Yes, I did, and it's

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confirmed it can be the only one
thing and it's big foot. It's not

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human, it's not a bear.
The fact that that's around fingernail like us,

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like our human Holmo Sapien pretty much
it says a story in itself.

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Wow, it's not a claw like
you're thinking a bear, mountain, lion

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or whatever. It's around figure nail
like ours. I mean, Kenny,

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it's wild because it's like I'm trying
to think of things that it could be,

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and it's like I can't think of
alternatives. That is wild man.

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Now you've got to realize between that
photograph just before that, where you've got

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the whole shoulder yep, here it
is. There is seven second delay between

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that picture and the one with them. Wow. Where he's reaching towards that

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camera, so the camera is focused
forward, is seven feet off the ground.

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You're seeing the shoulder of something.
Yes, And then and then you

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said it was a seven seconds later. How many seconds later was the delay?

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Seven seconds later? It's pointing reaching
towards trail. Yep, so it's

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it's got we got the photos straight
on. Then it's it's reaching towards something.

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You can see it's it's fingernail thumbnail. Oh man, that's wild.

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Yeah, it's a fingernail. It's
confirmed. It's a fingernail. It looks

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like it might be this one,
the index finger. Yeah, let's go

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back to it. He's doing this. Let's go back to it. Here

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there we go. Wow, So
Jery cam at seven and a half feet

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off the ground a dangle of the
art hand and everything. He was taller

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than that. Because it looks like
he's reaching down to it. It's not

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a bear, no, it does. That's not even close to a bear's

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hand like, right, that doesn't
even make sense because bears have claws unless

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someone is in a bigfoot cost like
it. Just that doesn't even make sense.

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You got to remember this is private
property, and that was the only

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one allowed in there to do field
research. So let's let's talk it.

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So it's private property. Are there
a lot of neighbors around or is it

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pretty remote or what's it's pretty remote? There are some neighbors, but they're

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not real close to this twenty acres. And if you look at you see

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in that one photograph of the shoulder, you can see how heavy the forst

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is there September on that property,
there's areas where I talked before about the

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log being thrown at us. It's
more open and that's in the logged out

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area on the property. But this
is what the property, especially down along

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the stream, looks like. Wow, have there been reports of big foot

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messing around on this property? Can? Yes? Screaming Yeah, a screaming

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beaten on the side of the house
and everything. Oh, you gotta tell

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me about that. Dude. Well, like I said, I'm not really

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good faith with his wife right now. Okay, that's fine. I respect

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that. Yeah, no, no, no, because we're doing a night

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that night investigation. Yeah, she's
a major in the military, so she

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thought she was going to be in
charge, and I played my parises.

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There's only one person in charge here
and that's me and that's not you.

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Oh man, I know, I
can't keep my mouth shut. But they

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sold the properties, so now I
don't have access. But as far as

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I'm concerned, and I do have
Native American consultants within the group now and

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they all this is exactly what they've
seen on a big Foot. This is

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a big Foot. So they have
seen stuff that is similar to this in

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the same region, is what you're
saying. No, this is my Native

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Americans are black people, Okay,
a Rapaho, Apache, Navajo, Sue,

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and Cheyenne. They're my consultants.
I turned to the people that according

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to their their legend and their stories, is big Foot was already in North

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America when they made the crossing on
the land the land bridge. Really big

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Foot was already here. Now since
we talked, they did find They always

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said there was no primates in North
America. This spring, Ah, they

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found small primary fossils in northern Canada. Now they found a larger primate fossils

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in a boat base in Wyoming.
Wow. So, which puts primates in

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North America. Now there's testing they're
doing try to determine how old these fossils

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are, their jaw bones, stuff
like that. Is there a DNA?

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We don't know. M Have you
have you sent these photos to any what

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we say in quotes, Bigfoot experts
or anything to have a look at them,

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or these really aren't out there yet
at all? My goodness? All

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right, Jerebio. You and your
group, that's what we're going to be

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watching. This are the first to
see this, these two photographs outside the

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group members. All right, thanks
Kenn. That's awesome man, that's roll.

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I mean you look at that.
I have other than a human,

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a primate and bigfoot only have rounded
fingernails. I can't wait for I had

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no solid ten guys that are gonna
be like, let me at these photos.

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I want to tear them apart,
like it's gonna be amazing. Yeah,

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but you're not gonna be able to. Yeah, it's gonna be tough.

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Like that's wild, dude. Yeah, yes, nobody in a costume.

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You cannot do a fingernail like that
in a costume because if you look

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real close, you'll see where it's
been cracked, the lines and everything.

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Yeah. Wow, they're on the
right side of the fingernail. You see

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the cracks. And then if you
really look close, yeah, see the

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cracks on the side. Yeah.
And if you look close, you actually

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see the lines down the fingernail like
ours. My goodness. Oh, go

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ahead and try to tear that at
a park. That's that's gonna be some

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fun. Man. Wow, it's
okay. So I know, we can't

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talk a lot about it. But
so you're saying that when this this person

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owned the property, they were getting
slaps on the side of their house.

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Yeah, they were getting vocalizations.
Yeah, Now you've got to realize back

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then the first field trips where I
got that one something in a different location

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black stooped overwalk by the trail camp, all right. At that time they

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had twenty forest fires around the Saint
Mary's area, Okay, And what brought

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me over there was we I honestly
think I couldn't get the vocalizations from then.

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They did their phones inside the house
they're too afraid to go outside,

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or probably two groups on verbal conflict, a group moving through the area because

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this group's a local group, this
is their territory. So there was conflict

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with these two groups with the males, the alphas, two groups of warring

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Sasquatch or something to that. Wow, And then from then on they'd hear

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the screaming at night, knocked,
something knocking on the side of their house

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and all that. And then they
of course he asked me to go in,

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which well the wife was still alive. We went over and we spent

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what I think that was a three
four day trip the first time to get

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a rough area. The second trip
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I went over and put out more
trail camps. Now I've increased our trail

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camps to ten instead of five plus
we haven't we have new equipment. Now

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I went ahead and bit the bulletin. I now have a thermal imagy unit

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for at night. I've got a
sounding recording device that comes un automatically.

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When this any voice sound real small, I can put in somewhere. It

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has an external might on a six
foot chord, so I can have the

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two of them separate. I can
basically guide the recorder itself. Wow,

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Ken, when you were there for
the eleven days, did you did you

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see any other evidence that would also
you know, did you see any tracks

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anything else that was like wow,
Okay, there's besides this trail camp photo.

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There's definitely some stuff going on here
besides anecdotal evidence from Yeah, like

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I said, this was in Saint
Mary's. Now we'll get to the photos

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from the swan. Okay, I
know they are. Let me get to

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them because I got them on my
laptop. Um, Okay, you really

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have to look good on. Back
out of that to the first one,

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daylight. Let's see, all right, it's the second one. It says

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money at the bottom. Oh yep, this one, No that I'll get

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to you because I can't get saying
that one. How about this one?

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All right, let's see go to
the next one. All right, this

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one all right? Now, if
you really look at that, okay,

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and my blackfeet consultant he spotted am
I doing? At first? There's one

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standing upright in the tree, and
then down lower is a smaller one looking

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if you bring it in close,
you can see the eyebrows on both of

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them. Go over, go over, go overt right? Yeah, straight

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straight in there? Oh right there, yeah, right there? Oh man,

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and look what's above it? Uh? Do the do the right?

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Okay? Oh right here right there. Wow. According to the photo analysts,

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there's possibly another one in there he
can't bear by, but there's definitely

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two. That's wild. Yeah.
These these were taken during the day,

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um and the trail camp was probably
seventy five yards away, so especially especially

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the one where it's the first one
that got pointed out, I'm not sure.

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I'm not sure what to think of
that man like you there people are

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that are going to try to tear
this. The part is super bad,

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but it's like I personally, I
think that it's almost like you can see

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a face of some sort right right
there. It's a distance. You got

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to realize. Yeah, it's a
distance. These aren't taking off close,

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man. That's why I not like
that hand and that other that shoulder,

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that's close. These are at a
distance. My Native American are running Crane.

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He's the one that spotted both of
those. Okay, no little history

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about him. Him and he has
a team on the Black Reservation eastern Montana.

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They do bigfoot research on the Native
Americans reservations throughout the West, and

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I have been fortunate to be invited
this summer to come over and spend five

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days with them doing field research,
which I will be doing. Wow,

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I have an opportunity. I'm not
going to fast up. Yeah, these

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guys are my consultants. Their history
farther along than ours. Aren't all the

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joban A question about this photo.
Did you try to see if you could

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figure out exactly how high off the
ground that? Okay, that looks like

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a facial We're gonna get there.
Okay, Okay, now you're going to

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go down to one and we find
it. Okay, No, well I

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know it's this one probably. Yeah, all right, that's just beyond there.

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I'm five foot nine, okay,
and if you look straight ahead where

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that base and everything's out. See, I'm going to go back and forth

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straight ahead. Yeah. Wow,
that's taller than me. Man, it

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definitely is. Yeah, that's I
didn't realize that that jerild Camp took picture

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me. That's my youngest daughter to
come with me. So that gives you

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a good reference point a fight,
very very interesting. Yeah, and I'm

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sorry. I don't care what anybody
says. I know what we're dealing with.

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I agree with running crane. It
is something there, is it?

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Bigfoot? We're not going to commit
to saying yes. I wanted to,

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Now, if you go down a
little bit farther, real quick, I

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wanted to go back and forth between
this one okay and this Okay? Interesting?

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Yeah, it's almost okay because I'm
just looking between the two real quick.

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Yeah, I don't see it.
I wasn't see it in this one.

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Yeah, it wasn't there when we
walked after setting the trail count,

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she's carrying the trail counselor there it
is. Manna, I don't know.

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Man, that's that's wild. Can
Yeah. I told my members I will

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not circle anything. Yeah, sure, I want them to look because when

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they do field research, we see
stuff like this. It's not circle you're

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looking at it. It's natural environment. I don't care what the skeptics say.

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I already had this analyzed and it
come back as a bipedal creature.

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Wow, m hm. Remind me
this is also on the same property,

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or this is the difference. This
is up in the swanky Okay. Wow.

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Now if we go to h after
that one with the fingernail m hm.

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Skipped in with my hand. The
next one, okay, that was

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on the side of the mortar home. So this occurred when you were there

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at the swan research and yes,
yes, okay. Now my consultancy said,

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try to get a comparison, right, So if you look at the

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next one, that's my hand at
the palm of it. Okay, let

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me go back and forth a few
times. Interesting, do you think there's

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so where your pinky is? Do
you think that's more of a thumb?

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I think he put his hand just
like this. Let me look at this

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your screen real quick, Okay,
because a palm would be at the base.

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Back to it. Let me come
back to it. Yeah, it's

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down at the base here. I
remember that smiley face, So that would

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be if Pinky or maybe his left
hand, I'm not sure. But we

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did a size comparison with my hand
to show how big it is compared to

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my hand. Gotcha? Did you
try to get any lift, any fingerprints

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or anything from it? Didn't?
No idea. My fingerprint powder is kind

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of like a rock right now because
I have used it. Get some more.

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I've got everything to do fingerprints,
and now it's just getting some more

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the powder, order some power so
I can dust it and then I can

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take whatever that is. Something like
that, I can take. You know

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that freshman enough? So how how
what if you were to measure let's say,

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from the length of your your middle
finger down to the base of the

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wrist um normal sized hand or what
are we looking at? Yeah, let

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me get a cape masure out a
second? Yeah you got it. Okay,

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we take a cape major from index
figure to the base of the palm.

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A you know, an hand is
seven inches? Okay, has taller

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than seven inches? Yeah, totally, you're talking nine I'd say nineteen inches.

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see you can see the very top. Yeah yeah, I mean you can

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make out you can make out different
fingers there, I would say. Yes.

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Now, the unusual thing about it
you had got to it is we

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didn't notice it. Let me get
to it. The one picture the side

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of the mortar home with the cloud. Yes, this guy the mortar home

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was not running. Okay, okay, Janet rad was not running. What

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is that? It was just after
that we found the handprint. So okay,

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that's weird. Um, So did
you have a fog or missed that

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day? No? Really, I
mean it was so clear and late afternoon

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we got thunderstorms and rain, and
night was so cristal clear. You could

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actually see part of the northern lights, the orange dancing across the sky and

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everything. Oh, Ken, that
info doesn't make this any easier. That's

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weird. Man. What did I
tell you before? You have more questions

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and answers? Yeah, Oh,
we haven't gotten to the good stuff yet.

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So okay, yeah, we get
that. So you're saying that this

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mist was around your trailer and then
you you found the handprint on the side.

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Yes, Um, was the I'm
sure you got a good look at

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the handprint. Was it like,
was it debris or was it a mud

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or did you notice anything? It
looked muddy. Yeah, and we'd had

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rain, rain and stuff. Okay, definitely has that color, doesn't it.

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Yeah, which would make sense.
Hmm. Man, I've got videos

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the rain is so heavy it triggered
the trail cam. The rain's coming straight

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down. Wow. I went to
retrieve the trail cams and I'll soaked from

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my feet to my chest. And
how whet it got up there? Yeah,

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that's the wild things. Let's answer
this question now, because I don't

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want to get five thousand emails.
Where can people find these photos if they

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want to analyze them? Because I
know that I'm going to get like twenty

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thousand people are going to be like, hey, hook me up with those

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photos so I can rip them apart. Well, all photos. They have

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to get my permission. Yeah,
okay, so it's going to be through

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you probably. Oh. I will
be putting them on the domain yep,

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because I'm upgrading the domain we have. Okay, and they'll be available.

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I'm there. But I all I
ask is a respect will have an open

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mind because we're not all going to
see the same thing perfect, and all

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this stuff has been sent to somebody
who that's what he does for a business

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is analyzed photos and videos. Okay, okay, so you're you're dealing with

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a professional photograph analyst guy as well. Tell me, can you tell me

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anything about about that gentleman or I'll
give it briefly. So does a video

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and photo analysts for the news stations
here in Missoula. Okay, so he

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knows what he's doing and he's really
a nice guy and it's really nice.

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Is I'm not gonna say say it
because he is called him in, but

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he will. My friend talked to
him about he said, yeah, he'd

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take a look at it for me. Wow, because he is interested in

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the flub. So just say one
more time, listeners, I won't have

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these, so don't come to me. We'll have in the show notes the

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website for the Montana Group and all
that good stuff that you can go to

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and you can check it out there, but I won't be giving these out

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to anyone. So yeah, it's
like next step, um, I will

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cover I think well, uh,
I had one of my members, Stan

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joined me. Hm. Well,
when he joined us, everything changed,

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The mountains went quiet really yeah.
In according to my consultant, a person

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put out a negative energy and things
changed that fast. So this is your

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your Native American consultant you're talking about. Well, I don't I talk to

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my Native American consultants because they are
the ones with the knowledge. Oh sure,

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exactly. Yeah. And this is
another member from eastern Mountaina to come

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over. Okay, got it,
got it, okay, coming on Saturday.

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He booked really fast on Thursday.
And I can't capt figure that out.

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There is a video and I can't
find it. He squared it's big

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foot in the camp. It's not. It's him walking. I've never known

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a big foot to use a flash
light at night. Well, I mean,

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come on, and I think that's
pretty smart that unless someone might say,

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oh, well it's an orb but
if you're pretty sure it's a flashlight,

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then that's kind of a case closed
one my analysis, it's a flashlight.

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Yeah. Plus I send him my
profile and stands profile and stands profile

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match what was walking? Wow through
the camp man. So this is this

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is done by on the fly.
I said those eleven days and then going

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through and then sending out everything.
Now the oh. When he left on

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Thursday Friday morning, it's when it
got really interesting. Really yeah, I

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want to describe I stepped out of
the mortar hole, you know what,

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having a skunky rot What skunky rotten
became moldy smell that hung in the air

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for three hours. I spoke of
my consultant and he said, I there

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was a big foot around that camp
rights down and they're watching me. Wow.

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Yeah, that's not a good sign
when you know that that type of

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smell hits you out of nowhere.
Yeah. And then that night, for

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the hell of it, instead of
using my lament bat on a tree,

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I beat on a rock. Okay, I did one knock, I got

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a knock back. I did two
knocks. I got two knocks back.

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Really yeah? From south of US? Oh no, wow. So the

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other thing too, you'd hear birds
that weren't birds. Okay, Um,

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what sounds like a kyote but wasn't
a kyote? Can you explain that to

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me a little bit? Ken?
Oh. Bigfoot is known to mimic animals,

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sure, birds, oh, coyotes, wolves, they're capable of mimicking

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other species right like many others like
chimpantasies that they will mimic humans. Is

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Bigfoot had the capability? Yes,
I'm actually working on a theory. They're

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tree knocks. Is it a form
a primitive Morse code? We develop Morse

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code for emergencies and just sell sent
across celography. Is it a form of

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it? That's the sub theory I'm
working on. Now, that's interesting.

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No, there has to be and
even rody kerring Greek, they have to

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have a way of communicating. Is
it through a system like a Morse code

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that we don't understand? I mean
it's not. It's I don't think it's

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the question. I mean, who's
to say that. I mean, so,

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boy, okay, hold on,
don't hold on. Okay, here

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you go. So I mean I
so hYP hypothetically, I don't think it's

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out of the question where you could
have a creature where it's like one knock

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means something, to knock means another. Um. I know that the Olympic

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Project has found areas where there was
almost like a century that was watching the

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nests and they found I believe,
rocks that could be used for rock clacking.

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I don't think it's out of the
question that a creature like that could

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figured out a communication type style.
Now so Ruth Dune, which is part

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of part group. He also has
his own group. He has heard a

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rhythm, can knock clap them?
Really, yes, and he's trying to

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get back in there to try to
record it. But there's definitely a pattern

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to those rocks being hit together.
M Man. I mean, we're in

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such a new area right now,
it's it's hard to explain. M Sometimes

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you just gotta go with your feeling. Sure, were you able to record

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any vocalizations during your time around there? No? No, Okay, That's

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why I ordered this real special recorder, got the external mic so I can

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put it away from camp. Now
I'm gonna be doing like Ronney Grant.

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My Blackfeet consultants said, we're gonna
try to draw him into the camp.

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Mka. They music. I'll put
toys out because they do like it.

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Well, I have a whole bunch
of ducks because I now have a cheap

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wrangler I took behind the mortar home, right, so the guys have the

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ducks. Yeah, yeah, we
ducks. So I've got ducks at Squeak,

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so I can be putting ducks out, playing music and everything, trying

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to bring him into the camp.
Now we will out five trail camps looking

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into the camp by looking out of
the camp. Nice. Oh that's awesome,

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dude. Have you ever thought of
playing audio like baby cries or anything

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at that? I did. I
tested them here at the house, like

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the Sierra sounds and all that.
I guess the PA system through the CBE

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works really good because I have every
dog within three blocks marking. Yeah.

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Yeah, so I did a look. I wanted to, but the weather

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didn't allow me to. And there
again, I have to be cautious when

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I'm out there because of my health. Art. Yeah, no, definitely,

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I know we've we have talked before, and so you had you use

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serous sounds you know something that I'm
gonna I'm gonna try it when I go

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back out next and they'll see what
happens. Ken. But a few people

407
00:38:15.800 --> 00:38:22.400
were like, you got to use
try human baby cries because it does something.

408
00:38:23.280 --> 00:38:28.960
So you got no response response,
okay, yeah. Now we've sat

409
00:38:29.000 --> 00:38:34.079
one night, Kim, let's help
and stand. I put the TV outside.

410
00:38:34.079 --> 00:38:37.440
We watched the movie Make okay,
I mean run A rough way to

411
00:38:37.480 --> 00:38:44.639
go on a base camp. Right, So now my question is is it

412
00:38:44.719 --> 00:38:52.159
possible that one was watching the question, not another question. They are very

413
00:38:52.199 --> 00:38:57.159
according to ny cring them another they
are very curious about us. Yes,

414
00:38:57.360 --> 00:39:01.079
absolutely, they do not feel threatened
by us. They will start coming around.

415
00:39:02.599 --> 00:39:07.280
And now I have the advantage my
motor home has been there enough times.

416
00:39:07.559 --> 00:39:13.320
They're used to it. That's true
that they're if you're using the same

417
00:39:13.360 --> 00:39:15.519
one, they're going to be used
to it, aren't they Did you always

418
00:39:15.840 --> 00:39:22.199
are you always out there the same
amount of days? Or this is the

419
00:39:22.320 --> 00:39:27.800
longest Yeah, this is the longest
one. Okay, interesting? Yeah,

420
00:39:27.920 --> 00:39:34.400
I planned an eleven day trip this
time. My youngest daughter, Kim,

421
00:39:34.880 --> 00:39:37.559
come up with me, help me
get set up. We put out the

422
00:39:37.599 --> 00:39:42.480
trail camps. Je's the one you
see walking with me to where those two

423
00:39:42.519 --> 00:39:49.800
are apt. Yeah. And then
my oldest daughter come up on Monday for

424
00:39:50.239 --> 00:39:52.960
a couple of days and the two
of them come back. Because a little

425
00:39:52.039 --> 00:39:55.079
Kim, she had to get ready
to start a new job. Sure,

426
00:39:55.199 --> 00:40:02.920
so I had her with me.
And now do you guys do anything with

427
00:40:05.280 --> 00:40:08.519
putting out, like gifting areas or
anything like that. I put two apples

428
00:40:08.559 --> 00:40:13.119
on top of the mortar home.
When one was taken. Okay, interesting

429
00:40:13.800 --> 00:40:17.000
was it? What was it?
Near? Where the um, mister,

430
00:40:17.159 --> 00:40:24.519
is that it was worried about that
hand trudge? Jeez ken all right now,

431
00:40:24.920 --> 00:40:30.960
no window that windows the window that
that big foot was smelling my white

432
00:40:30.840 --> 00:40:42.440
two years ago? Right? Oh
my goodness. Huh man, I dare

433
00:40:42.480 --> 00:40:45.239
people to dispute this. My response
to him, Come with me for eleven

434
00:40:45.320 --> 00:40:52.880
days and see what happens, man, I challenged him, Come with me.

435
00:40:54.840 --> 00:40:59.480
It just it gets the more we
talked, it does get weirder and

436
00:40:59.519 --> 00:41:04.679
weird. Did you notice any let's
let's go down the list, any like,

437
00:41:04.880 --> 00:41:10.320
um, weird breaks and trees or
any tree related structures or anything.

438
00:41:10.320 --> 00:41:14.559
I thought a couple of tree breaks. I didn't. I didn't have the

439
00:41:14.639 --> 00:41:21.000
camera my phone with me, which
I don't have my thirty five millimeter either,

440
00:41:21.480 --> 00:41:24.719
okay, um, which I have
to start carrying one of them with

441
00:41:24.760 --> 00:41:30.360
me. Definitely, everything we look
at right now is actually based off the

442
00:41:30.400 --> 00:41:38.119
trail cams and what we witnessed.
I witnessed and experienced. Like I told

443
00:41:38.159 --> 00:41:43.880
you, I don't care what people
say. I know what I experienced.

444
00:41:44.599 --> 00:41:47.039
I've been dealing with big foot for
a long time. I'm not an expert.

445
00:41:49.320 --> 00:41:52.559
I have knowledge of big foot now
and every time we go on the

446
00:41:52.559 --> 00:41:59.599
field research. Things are different.
This next one. I'm actually building a

447
00:41:59.639 --> 00:42:06.559
sly hairs human bear, deer,
hell horse on slice. I have a

448
00:42:06.599 --> 00:42:13.239
microscope with the camera. It's a
biological microscope that's electronic. I can look

449
00:42:13.280 --> 00:42:16.960
at the hair underneath it. Human
hair has a black core. They say,

450
00:42:17.000 --> 00:42:28.239
Bigfoot, does it sure? When
you're out in the Swan area,

451
00:42:28.400 --> 00:42:34.639
did you notice any thing that you
would have interpreted as a track or anything

452
00:42:35.400 --> 00:42:37.840
of that type of thing. Well, the problem I had with standards.

453
00:42:37.840 --> 00:42:43.280
He'd take off and he come back
and he said he thought he saw a

454
00:42:43.320 --> 00:42:46.920
big foot track next to a grizzly
track. I can't verify it because he

455
00:42:47.039 --> 00:42:51.320
never told me where he was going, which broke a rule the major rout

456
00:42:51.400 --> 00:42:54.440
of the group. Because if you
take off thout letting me or somebody know,

457
00:42:55.079 --> 00:43:00.679
something happens to you, I have
no idea where to look. So

458
00:43:00.880 --> 00:43:05.519
here's this. If I'm there and
I know there's grizzlies around, I'm probably

459
00:43:05.559 --> 00:43:08.400
not going to be doing that.
But that's on him. But I can

460
00:43:08.480 --> 00:43:13.679
understand why you wouldn't want a guy
just going off by himself. We rewarded

461
00:43:13.840 --> 00:43:16.280
him and I got there the first
night there had been a big board grizzly

462
00:43:16.400 --> 00:43:30.880
sighted north of us to be aware
of it. Wow, man, now

463
00:43:30.000 --> 00:43:35.559
should we get to the scatt?
Yeah, let's let's keep going. Definitely,

464
00:43:35.639 --> 00:43:40.639
yeah, all right, we found
scatt. Okay, and it is.

465
00:43:40.760 --> 00:43:51.280
Let me get up though. It
is approximately fifteen inch long. Really

466
00:43:52.280 --> 00:44:05.199
yeah, about that big around straight? Okay. I showed my native consultant

467
00:44:05.840 --> 00:44:07.719
and he said it. The first
question was areny there? He said it,

468
00:44:07.719 --> 00:44:10.199
and I went, no, it
looks like here. He said,

469
00:44:10.239 --> 00:44:17.599
it's not a bear. Interesting.
Now that's what. I sent samples to

470
00:44:17.679 --> 00:44:23.880
four labs and like I told you, their coded alpha alpha. Bravo Charlie

471
00:44:24.239 --> 00:44:31.639
and David. Okay, the preliminary
result is unknown species? Okay, point

472
00:44:32.000 --> 00:44:38.880
so really really can yes? Wow? Can you? Okay? I'm going

473
00:44:38.960 --> 00:44:43.639
to ask questions and you can shut
me down. What they're gonna do is

474
00:44:45.159 --> 00:44:51.920
they're doing further testing. I will
received a preliminary DNA results from the labs,

475
00:44:52.920 --> 00:44:59.880
but right now three of them is
unknown species and one cannot be determined.

476
00:45:00.840 --> 00:45:05.079
I asked, is it a bear? No? Is it feel like?

477
00:45:05.519 --> 00:45:12.360
No, it's not in the DNA
database. Can you share anything about

478
00:45:12.360 --> 00:45:16.199
what kind of labs they were that
you send them to labs. Okay,

479
00:45:16.320 --> 00:45:21.079
so just basic around the middle DNA
labs. Well, let's put it this

480
00:45:21.280 --> 00:45:23.400
joy because I'm five hundred dollars donation
to each one. I put off two

481
00:45:23.440 --> 00:45:31.079
grants to get the results fair enough, and they ask express confidentiology. And

482
00:45:31.159 --> 00:45:36.719
they also warned, meet the girl
careful when I talked to because the government

483
00:45:36.840 --> 00:45:40.880
doesn't want us us to know what's
going on. I know people people are

484
00:45:40.920 --> 00:45:46.000
gonna ask, So these are not
This is not an individual that is dealing

485
00:45:46.000 --> 00:45:50.719
with DNA that you send it to. This is an actual laboratory that is

486
00:45:50.840 --> 00:45:55.719
not an individual, right, okay, labs laboratories, So that should take

487
00:45:55.719 --> 00:45:59.880
care of any questions that are coming
up in people's minds. Now. They

488
00:46:00.039 --> 00:46:04.199
asked me, well, what about
When I first talked to them, I

489
00:46:04.239 --> 00:46:09.639
said, well, even the pluminary
where I have an idea, And they

490
00:46:09.639 --> 00:46:13.719
said, well, you know you
can always send a donation sometimes that helps.

491
00:46:14.280 --> 00:46:19.800
So I said, you think so
weird? Yeah, so I did.

492
00:46:19.800 --> 00:46:24.000
But they also warned me, now
two of them are sending the equipment

493
00:46:24.159 --> 00:46:29.679
to collect water samples from all the
streams in that in that area to get

494
00:46:29.719 --> 00:46:37.199
given ten mile range. Why for
DNA? Really? Yeah, Bigfoot's there

495
00:46:37.519 --> 00:46:39.800
steps in that water, that DNA
is going to be in the water,

496
00:46:42.599 --> 00:46:52.159
and so now I'm waiting for the
equipment. Then I'm going back. Okay,

497
00:46:52.199 --> 00:46:57.039
now I know why you were like
we need to chat. Yeah,

498
00:46:57.039 --> 00:47:02.199
that's this is this is pretty wild
can And you know, I'm putting you

499
00:47:02.280 --> 00:47:10.280
exactly what took place. I took
you. I'm not there to make a

500
00:47:12.519 --> 00:47:17.480
famous or anything, but we're getting
the evidence. Whether people want to accept

501
00:47:17.480 --> 00:47:22.519
it or not. No, it's
like they're doing it. I can vouch

502
00:47:22.559 --> 00:47:25.880
for you because I've been in your
group since since February, and it's like

503
00:47:28.119 --> 00:47:31.800
your genuine Saw of the Earth type
guy. And it's like you can tell

504
00:47:31.840 --> 00:47:37.000
if someone's trying to like get on
like filling the name of TV show pretty

505
00:47:37.079 --> 00:47:39.920
quick, you know, And that
is not the case. You're just trying

506
00:47:39.960 --> 00:47:44.599
to figure out what in the world's
going on in Montana to do with Bigfoot.

507
00:47:45.000 --> 00:47:47.440
That's what you're doing. Yeah.
Wow, it's like that article I

508
00:47:47.559 --> 00:47:53.159
sent you that link. Yep,
somebody's mutilating cattle out of Great Falls.

509
00:47:53.599 --> 00:48:02.679
Oh yeah, what's going on?
They've really said They've really said undiscovered unknown

510
00:48:02.840 --> 00:48:10.840
species of animo species Yep, I've
known species. Uh Cardie come back as

511
00:48:10.840 --> 00:48:19.000
cannot be determined. Further testing needed
in how many different labs came back with

512
00:48:19.079 --> 00:48:24.039
that again? Or all four?
All four? You know? Are they?

513
00:48:24.079 --> 00:48:29.360
Are they in different parts of the
US or are they all? Yeah?

514
00:48:29.400 --> 00:48:36.280
They are? Or different locations?
And they when I sent the samples,

515
00:48:36.280 --> 00:48:43.119
I didn't tell how my sense samples
to other labs. Man, that's

516
00:48:43.159 --> 00:48:52.440
wild dude. Yeah, how long
ago do you find this out? But

517
00:48:52.880 --> 00:48:55.400
two weeks ago? Then I said, when I told you we need to

518
00:48:55.440 --> 00:49:05.000
talk, I just found out.
I just found out from Charlie the other

519
00:49:05.079 --> 00:49:12.920
day. That's one that cannot be
determined. Man, need further testing.

520
00:49:13.280 --> 00:49:20.280
So now I know why you're trying
to lock down where exactly it is because

521
00:49:21.119 --> 00:49:29.400
you don't want the Great Montana Bigfoot
DNA gold Rush or twenty twenty three happening.

522
00:49:30.400 --> 00:49:35.719
Even my consult running cran agree,
we're onto something. Is it big

523
00:49:35.719 --> 00:49:38.760
foot? We're not gonna say yes, we don't know it, maybe something

524
00:49:38.800 --> 00:49:44.480
else. We don't know At this
stage. All we know is we have

525
00:49:44.519 --> 00:49:50.239
an unknown species in the Swan Valley. So here's here's the thing. So

526
00:49:51.559 --> 00:49:57.000
what I'm sure you looked into this? What other animal leaves this scat that

527
00:49:57.159 --> 00:50:02.079
is fifteen feet long. You said
it's fifteen feet long. All right,

528
00:50:02.119 --> 00:50:08.280
No, yeah, fifteen inches long. Now you're ready for I compared it

529
00:50:08.519 --> 00:50:14.199
to bear scat, okay, on
the road. It didn't match the bear

530
00:50:14.280 --> 00:50:19.679
scat man. Bear scat was in
a pile. This was laying on the

531
00:50:19.719 --> 00:50:27.639
ground like what we would do when
major That's another good question. So let's

532
00:50:27.719 --> 00:50:31.719
talk about that. So and that's
right. We're all adults, so we

533
00:50:31.719 --> 00:50:36.159
being talked about this. So what
it was. It was kind of laid

534
00:50:36.199 --> 00:50:38.880
out in a line. It was
not in a lane. It was lane

535
00:50:39.960 --> 00:50:45.199
like if I had it take number
two right. Sometimes it's like a log.

536
00:50:46.199 --> 00:50:50.760
That's why you describe it. It
just lays there. This is the

537
00:50:50.760 --> 00:50:53.800
way it was bear scat it compared
to it was in a pile exactly.

538
00:50:55.280 --> 00:51:00.760
That's the difference. And talking to
Running Crane, he agrees it's not a

539
00:51:00.800 --> 00:51:09.320
bear. So your knowledge of the
nature the animals of Montana, there are

540
00:51:09.360 --> 00:51:14.559
no other animals that would lay it
out like that. A bear might,

541
00:51:15.199 --> 00:51:20.599
okay if you got constipated or got
stuffed up, sure, but no.

542
00:51:20.880 --> 00:51:23.719
Most most game that I've come across
in my years of hunting, drafting,

543
00:51:24.280 --> 00:51:30.119
and fishing it's jarney in a pile. It may be a scattered pile,

544
00:51:30.559 --> 00:51:38.440
but it's not laid flat like this
man fifteen inches long. Yeah. Now

545
00:51:38.480 --> 00:51:42.280
the thing is, of course you
should be do I have more of it?

546
00:51:45.159 --> 00:51:51.760
Right? And I'm gonna say yes, it's kind of frozen. I

547
00:51:51.880 --> 00:51:54.599
told my girls that's not a hershey
bar in their her fade ay bar.

548
00:51:55.119 --> 00:52:00.000
I was gonna say. The people
that are using the same freezer must absolutely

549
00:52:00.000 --> 00:52:02.800
love you, Ken right now.
It must be like, can what are

550
00:52:02.800 --> 00:52:10.079
you doing well? I'm falling advice
by my consultants. Save everything you can

551
00:52:10.119 --> 00:52:20.239
get? Yeah, save everything?
Did um? I just thought of another

552
00:52:20.280 --> 00:52:24.719
thing to ask you about evidence really, any weird hair or anything we could

553
00:52:24.760 --> 00:52:30.599
I couldn't find any, Okay,
I mean the mount like when your star

554
00:52:30.639 --> 00:52:34.079
will tell you the thunder and the
lightning and the rain. Sure, it's

555
00:52:34.119 --> 00:52:39.000
saturated everything now if we're still getting
rain, but it should slack off.

556
00:52:39.880 --> 00:52:45.960
Now that I have the thermal imaging
unit and it's capable of seeing a thermal

557
00:52:45.000 --> 00:52:51.519
image up to three hundred yards,
that's going to depend on how thick the

558
00:52:51.559 --> 00:52:54.599
forest is and everything. I've got
this new listening device, it's recorder.

559
00:52:55.079 --> 00:53:01.639
Okay, all right, I've got
my microscope camera comfort. I have to

560
00:53:01.639 --> 00:53:06.360
get a new laptop, so it's
with me. I have to download a

561
00:53:06.480 --> 00:53:10.800
program into it and into this tower. So when I do the hair examining

562
00:53:10.840 --> 00:53:15.760
hair and everything, I'm looking at
it on a big screen and I can

563
00:53:15.800 --> 00:53:24.119
take pictures. Man, Yes,
we've a dance that you going back to

564
00:53:24.199 --> 00:53:30.920
the scat. How tell me again
where it was found? Was it close

565
00:53:31.000 --> 00:53:37.679
to the camp or was it far
away? Here's about fifty yards from the

566
00:53:37.719 --> 00:53:43.239
camp. Okay, interesting, And
that was before Stan arrived, and we

567
00:53:43.400 --> 00:53:47.079
never told him about it. Somebody
told me not to tell him. Don't

568
00:53:47.079 --> 00:53:54.119
sit there in camp and tell me
you're an expert when you're physically not capable

569
00:53:54.159 --> 00:54:00.239
of going out and doing it,
right, that's probably a whole different story.

570
00:54:00.400 --> 00:54:04.760
Yeah, we won't go there.
I was getting so frustrated with Yeah,

571
00:54:04.880 --> 00:54:07.880
let's let's not go there. Yeah, but I'm so glad when he

572
00:54:07.000 --> 00:54:10.519
just I'm leaving a good thing.
All right. Well, after that's when

573
00:54:10.559 --> 00:54:16.840
everything changed. The smell came into
the camp. I mean, I've smelt

574
00:54:16.880 --> 00:54:22.440
the smell before, and so you
know you're saying the musky smell came back

575
00:54:22.639 --> 00:54:28.159
after the individual left. Yes,
really, or was it It was for

576
00:54:28.159 --> 00:54:30.840
the first time that that smell came
into place. Wow. Morning, Now

577
00:54:30.840 --> 00:54:36.559
it's the same smell as the one
that I talked about in the Borgia Crystal

578
00:54:36.639 --> 00:54:42.159
Lake, right when the wind's gone
towards you. It's identically the same smell.

579
00:54:42.639 --> 00:54:50.320
Skunky rotten became moldy. It can
if you've got a weak stomach,

580
00:54:50.320 --> 00:54:54.440
it's going to turn your stomach and
it layers almost three hours he was in

581
00:54:54.559 --> 00:55:00.559
camp. People are probably gonna ask, did you have did you take any

582
00:55:00.599 --> 00:55:07.920
pictures of this gat? Yes?
Okay, cool, but there again,

583
00:55:09.719 --> 00:55:16.599
I will be posting right all that. Yeah, I would assume you'd probably

584
00:55:16.599 --> 00:55:23.360
want to keep an eye on the
Montana Crew website too. That'll probably be

585
00:55:23.400 --> 00:55:28.679
posted eventually maybe yeah, yeah,
got you, got you ya. Redoing

586
00:55:28.840 --> 00:55:32.360
the domain because they sold the company
sold to another one, they made a

587
00:55:32.360 --> 00:55:38.000
little more complicated, so I'm han't
get used to doing it their way and

588
00:55:38.199 --> 00:55:46.679
that um. I do now have
a staff Michelle and Sammy Jean works with

589
00:55:46.719 --> 00:55:54.039
me to plan these field trips and
all that, because I can't do this

590
00:55:54.119 --> 00:55:59.199
alone. Yes, we know,
definitely you wouldn't want to, I'd say,

591
00:55:59.239 --> 00:56:04.920
after this, and I would love
I hope Doug Hicheck gets wind wind

592
00:56:04.960 --> 00:56:07.400
of this, this phote the trail
camp photos. I would love to see

593
00:56:07.480 --> 00:56:14.559
him go after that. Maybe he'll
get wind of it after this releases.

594
00:56:15.119 --> 00:56:20.639
We'll see. But you're not Doug
Hicheck from Monster Quest like he he's got

595
00:56:20.639 --> 00:56:25.199
a very scientific mind and he's a
great big foot guy as well. Yeah,

596
00:56:25.559 --> 00:56:32.679
these two pictures from Saint Mary's you
can't dispute. Go ahead, I

597
00:56:32.760 --> 00:56:40.039
know I can't think of man,
it's just it's wild, dude, he's

598
00:56:40.119 --> 00:56:47.039
wild. I can't wait to see
people try to go crazy analyzing it.

599
00:56:47.360 --> 00:56:51.480
Yeah, because I know it's going
to happen. Yeah, and like I

600
00:56:51.519 --> 00:56:57.000
said, you are the first podcast
first person other than very few members in

601
00:56:57.039 --> 00:57:00.920
the group that have seen these two
photographs. Yeah, and and thank you

602
00:57:00.000 --> 00:57:05.880
Ken. That is simply awesome.
It's a great honor that you know,

603
00:57:05.880 --> 00:57:09.840
I know you've been holding onto these
That's very cool. Well, it proves

604
00:57:10.000 --> 00:57:17.159
to me and my consultants bigfoot is
around Saint Mary's. This these two photographs.

605
00:57:17.719 --> 00:57:21.199
You can't dispute what you're looking at. And this has taken during the

606
00:57:21.320 --> 00:57:27.199
day. They're not blurry, not
when you look at and you can see

607
00:57:27.239 --> 00:57:37.880
the hair and everything of the animal. Yeah, that's a black and you

608
00:57:37.960 --> 00:57:42.039
consider that, Carol Kem at seven
feet off the ground, that creature is

609
00:57:42.079 --> 00:57:53.199
taller than that wild h And for
your listeners who are going to be seeing

610
00:57:53.199 --> 00:57:59.400
this. When we do our field
research, we don't know. We may

611
00:57:59.440 --> 00:58:05.079
not find anything. I've gone out
for days, four or five days and

612
00:58:05.239 --> 00:58:10.559
nothing. But there's always that one
time something starts to happen. There is

613
00:58:10.599 --> 00:58:16.360
no guarantee we'll find anything. We
got lucky. I spent the most time

614
00:58:16.440 --> 00:58:27.159
I've ever spent out there eleven days. Man Lie about said, as long

615
00:58:27.199 --> 00:58:32.760
as I got propaned in water,
I can stay out there. Um,

616
00:58:32.800 --> 00:58:37.519
some some listeners are probably gonna point
this out, So I'm just gonna I'm

617
00:58:37.559 --> 00:58:43.159
just I just gonna throw it out. There is a film thing. Okay,

618
00:58:43.599 --> 00:58:45.760
So I'm looking at the date,
right, yeah, okay, can

619
00:58:45.800 --> 00:58:49.719
you explain? Can you explain the
date? I didn't know how to set

620
00:58:49.800 --> 00:58:52.880
the dates on the trail camps fair
enough. I figured it was just I

621
00:58:52.920 --> 00:58:55.719
was like, it's probably it's probably
a user thing. Yeah, yeah,

622
00:58:55.760 --> 00:59:00.000
I didn't know. This is the
first time I've ever used trail camps.

623
00:59:00.199 --> 00:59:04.039
I never used him for hunting or
anything. I bought the trail accounts for

624
00:59:04.079 --> 00:59:08.239
this purpose, so I have to
learn now the new one muddies, they're

625
00:59:08.239 --> 00:59:14.440
even better, easier to work with. Now they'll take if this isn't been

626
00:59:14.519 --> 00:59:17.960
a muddy, I'd had a sequence
of three photographs back to back on each

627
00:59:19.000 --> 00:59:27.280
one of those the videos instead of
seven seconds or fifteen seconds. What was

628
00:59:27.320 --> 00:59:31.079
the date that you took the photo? This was two years ago? Okay,

629
00:59:31.800 --> 00:59:37.039
gotcha, it was just before the
wife passed away July. This one

630
00:59:37.039 --> 00:59:40.320
a cheap pastory this year or so, two years ago, all right,

631
00:59:40.360 --> 00:59:45.639
So that should that should take care
of. There's because there's probably a few

632
00:59:45.639 --> 00:59:47.199
people that were going to jump in
the comments and be like, oh my

633
00:59:47.320 --> 00:59:51.519
god, the date. Look at
the date now, Okay, we're talking

634
00:59:51.559 --> 00:59:55.280
about the date guys. Yeah.
All this equipment I'm learning how to use

635
00:59:55.519 --> 01:00:00.559
exactly. Yeah, so I can
teach those that come to the field with

636
01:00:00.679 --> 01:00:04.880
us due to the research how to
use it properly. The thermal imaging unit,

637
01:00:05.719 --> 01:00:14.639
the voice recorder, microscope, the
ninth vision goggles, the sonic listening

638
01:00:14.679 --> 01:00:17.119
device. I mean, we've got
a lot of high tech equipment now,

639
01:00:17.480 --> 01:00:27.280
not the upper scale, but we're
getting there. Yeah, man, that's

640
01:00:27.360 --> 01:00:32.840
wild, dude. That says that
right there says a lot. It really

641
01:00:32.880 --> 01:00:37.239
does. Man. Like I said, the green line is the trail camis

642
01:00:37.239 --> 01:00:42.599
itself? Yeah? Exactly. Yeah, And a lot of people will know

643
01:00:42.800 --> 01:00:46.760
that they've seen that occur in different
camera things. Man, that is wild.

644
01:00:47.360 --> 01:00:52.559
I can't I'm going to be thinking
about that probably for a few days.

645
01:00:52.960 --> 01:00:54.800
That's that's crazy. Man. Do
you be thinking about longer than a

646
01:00:54.800 --> 01:01:00.599
few days. Yeah, yeah,
that's for sure. You realize I got

647
01:01:00.599 --> 01:01:04.880
this in my possession for two years. How did you not like throw it

648
01:01:04.960 --> 01:01:07.880
out there for two years? Man? Because I wanted to make sure what

649
01:01:07.920 --> 01:01:13.920
I was and thinking when I posted
on the group. Yeah, the guy

650
01:01:13.960 --> 01:01:20.440
asked about the line, so I
really looked at it and realized a cap

651
01:01:21.480 --> 01:01:28.880
Oh yeah, those two photographs brought
the same trail camera m champ. And

652
01:01:28.880 --> 01:01:32.480
then I checked the time frame.
There's seven seconds between the one before this

653
01:01:32.639 --> 01:01:40.519
and this one. This is a
man, has been a crazy discussion.

654
01:01:40.599 --> 01:01:46.800
You have the the fingernail, you
got the handprint, and you've got the

655
01:01:46.800 --> 01:01:55.599
the scat with the unknown animal or
unknown creature from four different DNA labs.

656
01:01:57.880 --> 01:02:01.400
Wow, you got a lot of
stuff going on for sure, And we

657
01:02:01.440 --> 01:02:05.400
haven't even gone to the funny light
in the sky behind the camp. Oh

658
01:02:05.480 --> 01:02:08.159
yeah, I've got that video.
I've got that video pulled up. If

659
01:02:08.199 --> 01:02:14.119
if we let's play it, that's
cool. Um, hold on, all

660
01:02:14.199 --> 01:02:19.199
right, So is there anything you
want to want to say about it before

661
01:02:19.239 --> 01:02:22.760
we play it? I have that
video analyze, it's not a reflection off

662
01:02:22.760 --> 01:02:30.280
the trail camp. Okay, here
we go. What in the world now?

663
01:02:30.320 --> 01:02:32.760
The other thing? There is no
roads back where that lights up.

664
01:02:34.639 --> 01:02:39.280
There is no glass. I thought
were reflection of the fire, But it's

665
01:02:39.559 --> 01:02:44.199
the analyze says not. He doesn't
know what it is. I gotta watch

666
01:02:44.239 --> 01:02:52.159
it one more times. It almost
looks like it is. But what's a

667
01:02:52.320 --> 01:02:59.400
reflecting off of Yeah, I don't
know. Man, that's beyond down towards

668
01:02:59.400 --> 01:03:06.280
the string. There's no road over
there, because it's like it's almost the

669
01:03:07.079 --> 01:03:10.199
if you look at the clip again
and you notice what's going on the fire,

670
01:03:10.440 --> 01:03:16.559
it's like it's reflection. Yeah,
something, But what is it if

671
01:03:16.559 --> 01:03:21.519
there's nothing there? You said,
there's nothing there, and that doesn't make

672
01:03:21.559 --> 01:03:24.320
sense at all. Yeah, And
if you look when the fire also,

673
01:03:24.400 --> 01:03:29.039
they'll go out, but the fire
still bright. Yeah, but then it

674
01:03:29.119 --> 01:03:32.639
comes back on. If you watch, you'll go out, m hmm,

675
01:03:35.639 --> 01:03:39.159
what is it? It's unknowing.
There is an unknowing right there. See

676
01:03:39.159 --> 01:03:44.880
it's gone then it comes back.
Is the video taken through? Um?

677
01:03:45.519 --> 01:03:49.360
What is the video taking with?
Again? That's sticking with one of the

678
01:03:49.519 --> 01:03:53.480
first dog trail games. Okay,
on a tree looking into the camp,

679
01:03:54.199 --> 01:03:59.280
so there has no class on the
side, No, and one back here

680
01:03:59.360 --> 01:04:01.519
there were way from the mortar.
If you look, there's no lights on

681
01:04:01.679 --> 01:04:10.079
in the mortar home. Oh yeah, man, that's weird. We don't

682
01:04:10.079 --> 01:04:15.519
know what it is. If almost
dancing with the fire, but what's it

683
01:04:15.639 --> 01:04:23.599
reflecting off them? That's our question
also, Um, if we really want

684
01:04:23.639 --> 01:04:27.360
to pick it apart, it looks
like there's some weird stuff that happens in

685
01:04:27.440 --> 01:04:31.480
the bottom part of the video as
well. If you watch it, and

686
01:04:31.599 --> 01:04:35.920
I'm not a video guy, but
I noticed right around it's coming up.

687
01:04:39.280 --> 01:04:43.639
Um, I don't know. Maybe
it's like bugs, like right there,

688
01:04:44.079 --> 01:04:46.639
there's some lines. Maybe it's something
video. Yeah, it's a video,

689
01:04:46.880 --> 01:04:51.519
And I know still a lot of
these videos up there there's like interference.

690
01:04:51.880 --> 01:05:00.199
Yeah, that's weird. You had
other videos I have doesn't have it and

691
01:05:00.280 --> 01:05:06.960
it's mainly the ones at night.
I have twenty one hundred videos and photos

692
01:05:06.960 --> 01:05:15.280
I've been going through. Yeah,
Jesus, Yeah, so some a lot

693
01:05:15.360 --> 01:05:18.800
of them. The tree movement is
set, the trail cams off, the

694
01:05:18.880 --> 01:05:24.519
girls walking down to get the water. Us sets the trail cam off,

695
01:05:25.159 --> 01:05:30.199
his dog plane sets the trail cam
off. Something has to set those trailcams

696
01:05:30.239 --> 01:05:39.480
off. If there's no wind or
anything, what triggers the trailcams? Man

697
01:05:39.559 --> 01:05:45.000
another. There's so many different mysteries
going on in this this whole area.

698
01:05:45.360 --> 01:05:50.199
Yeah, that's weird. Can that's
why I keep returning high Wood too?

699
01:05:50.239 --> 01:05:54.719
I mean, it would keep bringing
me back, dude. Yeah, each

700
01:05:54.800 --> 01:06:00.679
trip is longer, Okay, it
gets longer and longer. Yeah, we

701
01:06:00.800 --> 01:06:03.920
all. Michelle and I looked at
a new area. If I can get

702
01:06:03.960 --> 01:06:08.880
the big motor home into it,
I will. There's one stretch I'm not

703
01:06:08.920 --> 01:06:13.480
sure about, but it's a beautiful
area. And I'll say the pictures you'll

704
01:06:13.480 --> 01:06:15.559
see what I'm talking about. It's
a big open area. There's an old

705
01:06:15.599 --> 01:06:19.519
log deck, so we have firewoods
right by the stream. But you look

706
01:06:19.599 --> 01:06:26.320
upon that mountain and it's all brush
covered. Wow. If you sat there

707
01:06:26.320 --> 01:06:31.519
with a spatting scope of my camera
with a Telforth gleans and section by section

708
01:06:32.119 --> 01:06:38.239
looking It's an area I haven't used
the drones. It's an area I will

709
01:06:38.280 --> 01:06:44.639
be flying the drones in because I
do have cuir of site and you closer

710
01:06:45.159 --> 01:06:53.000
with the drones. I have a
feeling there's definitely more to come from this

711
01:06:53.039 --> 01:07:00.239
whole Swan area in the future.
For sure can when we look, Yeah,

712
01:07:00.320 --> 01:07:03.679
Jeremiah, I wanted to also bring
this up. Yeau. People got

713
01:07:03.679 --> 01:07:10.159
to know me up there. It's
okay, researcher. They started opening up.

714
01:07:10.880 --> 01:07:15.079
They started I was going to go
into Yeah, yes, they started

715
01:07:15.159 --> 01:07:18.039
talking. Let's keep their names confidential, which I will sure. There's one

716
01:07:18.119 --> 01:07:24.039
I posted on the Facebook of a
big foot on the Mountain Sentinel behind the

717
01:07:24.119 --> 01:07:30.480
University. It took the woman two
years to trust. Somebody descended to his

718
01:07:30.639 --> 01:07:36.880
alter. Her name was kept out
of it, and it stopped for her

719
01:07:38.000 --> 01:07:41.960
from Patty Canyon, where a lot
of unusual things are taking place right now.

720
01:07:45.159 --> 01:07:47.920
Because I know, I remember from
last time we talked, you are

721
01:07:48.199 --> 01:07:55.360
very I mean, you're a guy
that people trust and you're even talking to

722
01:07:55.760 --> 01:08:00.639
a lot I want to say.
You had said it was like maybe phishing

723
01:08:00.760 --> 01:08:05.360
game guys or people would be talking
to you when there would be missing persons.

724
01:08:06.119 --> 01:08:10.400
I mean, there's people talking to
you about a lot of different interesting

725
01:08:10.480 --> 01:08:15.520
things that could be related to bigfoot. Understand in fact, I don't talk

726
01:08:15.560 --> 01:08:20.319
to say names. Their names is
confidential. It's why people talk to me.

727
01:08:20.920 --> 01:08:26.760
Yeah, exactly, And that's really
critical if you want to get the

728
01:08:26.800 --> 01:08:30.199
information from these people. Yeah,
because it means you mentioned their names.

729
01:08:30.199 --> 01:08:35.840
They can be in trouble. Oh. Absolutely. So you know, we

730
01:08:35.880 --> 01:08:42.800
started up small, We started our
field of research on minimal equipment learning.

731
01:08:42.800 --> 01:08:46.800
We're learning every time we go out. We have new ideas. We're going

732
01:08:46.800 --> 01:08:53.720
to try that. My Native Americans
have recommended I try try to draw them

733
01:08:53.720 --> 01:08:59.600
into the camp. And also the
warning if we come to face to face,

734
01:08:59.600 --> 01:09:01.760
we don't stared in the eyes,
take one look and look down,

735
01:09:02.119 --> 01:09:06.640
because they may take it as a
form of aggression. Really a gorillas,

736
01:09:06.680 --> 01:09:10.520
if you stare in the gorilla's eyes, he takes it a form of aggressive

737
01:09:10.880 --> 01:09:20.159
He gets aggressive chimps. These advisors
that you have, are they individuals that

738
01:09:20.199 --> 01:09:27.239
have actually had face to face encounters
or is this more like this information has

739
01:09:27.239 --> 01:09:31.439
been passed down from their elders.
They've had face to face encounters. Wow

740
01:09:32.279 --> 01:09:40.840
in Montana. In Montana, oh
man, When I go over to the

741
01:09:41.159 --> 01:09:45.680
Blackfeet reservation, he's from Montana or
Brownie. Now it is close to whites

742
01:09:45.880 --> 01:09:54.560
to do field research there. But
because they've come to know me, as

743
01:09:54.600 --> 01:09:57.600
long as running Crane and them are
with me, I'm gonna be allowed to

744
01:09:57.640 --> 01:10:01.239
do some field research. Wow.
So I do have a rare opportunity to

745
01:10:01.319 --> 01:10:04.119
here, and I'm not going to
pass the dough. Yeah. That's that's

746
01:10:04.159 --> 01:10:13.279
amazing Ken, Yeah, that is
very very cool. Like I said before,

747
01:10:13.319 --> 01:10:21.840
I never know when somebody is going
to talk to me. Yeah,

748
01:10:23.920 --> 01:10:28.600
well I am. I am simply
uh, just blown blown away by this

749
01:10:28.680 --> 01:10:31.640
man, Like this is that's a
really big deal. Like the whole DNA

750
01:10:31.760 --> 01:10:36.800
thing is a really big deal.
Ken, oh man, I am Uh.

751
01:10:36.840 --> 01:10:43.079
What's the best way for people to
keep up to date with you know?

752
01:10:43.479 --> 01:10:46.840
If you find out any more information
about that, I will eat from

753
01:10:46.840 --> 01:10:51.800
the water. Yeah. Um that
all will be on the domain. Awesome.

754
01:10:51.960 --> 01:10:57.960
Okay, and that's WW the Montana
Bigfootgroup dot com. M ok,

755
01:10:58.119 --> 01:11:00.960
yeah, I'll have it in the
show. All be being posted there.

756
01:11:00.760 --> 01:11:06.439
Um. I'm every time I go
out now, I do a daily diary

757
01:11:06.079 --> 01:11:12.079
Okay, what's taking place? So
I'm writing this all down. Eventually we'll

758
01:11:12.119 --> 01:11:15.479
party sit down at the computer and
type it all out because my writing sucks

759
01:11:15.720 --> 01:11:23.479
to be on street. Yeah that's
funny. That's really funny. And that

760
01:11:23.560 --> 01:11:29.119
will be include. Also, I
have all the structures drawn out on a

761
01:11:29.159 --> 01:11:33.960
flip chart that I've seen as four
pages that I've come across in my lifetime.

762
01:11:35.159 --> 01:11:39.880
So I will be doing a video
and that will be posted on the

763
01:11:39.880 --> 01:11:46.359
Facebook group on Facebook and on the
explaining everything what to be looking for,

764
01:11:47.159 --> 01:11:53.880
a right and that, and this
is based on personal experience and what people

765
01:11:54.239 --> 01:11:58.880
wants them understand. I do not
watch Monster Quested, do not watch Expedition

766
01:11:58.960 --> 01:12:03.479
Bigfoot any of that, nor do
I read about Bigfoot. Everything I talk

767
01:12:03.560 --> 01:12:11.159
about is based on personal experience that
I've got through my lifetime. Yeah that's

768
01:12:11.199 --> 01:12:16.119
cool, that is really cool.
So I have formed my own opinions and

769
01:12:16.199 --> 01:12:19.279
I have a very open mind because
I want to know what I saw that

770
01:12:19.399 --> 01:12:26.000
day when I come out of Crystal
Lake. M it's a lowest. Yeah,

771
01:12:26.000 --> 01:12:30.640
it's quote for me. And we're
getting we're getting close. You're getting

772
01:12:30.680 --> 01:12:34.960
close as something can, Yes,
we are. I mean, if it's

773
01:12:34.960 --> 01:12:39.840
not bigfoot. It is. It
is something that is not known by science

774
01:12:40.000 --> 01:12:44.680
in that area, right, and
that is probably one of the scariest things

775
01:12:44.720 --> 01:12:48.039
that I've heard in a long time. Yeah, it's unknown because it's not

776
01:12:48.119 --> 01:12:53.319
a little bunny rabbit. Oh god, I wish it was. If it's

777
01:12:53.399 --> 01:13:00.359
fifteen, if it's like has fifteen
in scat oh man, this. Oh

778
01:13:00.399 --> 01:13:03.359
I can't wait to see what happens
from this. Ken. It's been super

779
01:13:03.439 --> 01:13:06.079
fun chat with you, But I
want to make sure. Did you have

780
01:13:06.119 --> 01:13:13.800
any closing thoughts? Yes, I
do, Okay, we'll use that are

781
01:13:13.880 --> 01:13:18.239
watching. The number one rules should
be always keep an olpen mind and respect

782
01:13:18.359 --> 01:13:24.640
who is talking. They're the ones
that experienced unless you were there. Now

783
01:13:25.119 --> 01:13:29.600
anybody in the area that can come. We welcome people to come to do

784
01:13:29.640 --> 01:13:33.520
these field researchers. We may not
find anything, we may find something.

785
01:13:34.359 --> 01:13:39.720
Think about you being there and we
actually get that final video photo, a

786
01:13:39.840 --> 01:13:46.199
clear video photo of a big fudge
and you're part of that. But the

787
01:13:46.279 --> 01:13:50.800
key is being respectful and you have
to have an open mind. You can't

788
01:13:50.840 --> 01:13:55.199
block your mind to what you see, no matter what group it is,

789
01:13:55.399 --> 01:14:00.560
what program you see, you cannot
have a close mind because these people are

790
01:14:00.600 --> 01:14:05.239
also trying to get the answer.
What is it? Does it date bigfod

791
01:14:05.279 --> 01:14:15.760
date giant pithecus. We'll know soon
with the fossil results. Did the giant

792
01:14:15.760 --> 01:14:21.000
apes come out of North America?
Asia? What happened to the European primate

793
01:14:21.079 --> 01:14:29.319
that went extinct? Yeah, so
we're you know, you're dealing or something

794
01:14:29.359 --> 01:14:33.920
that's worldwide. From them Pendecca in
Malaysia to the Yahoi in Australia, to

795
01:14:34.039 --> 01:14:41.239
the rock Apes in Vietnam, to
the Macco in Japan, to the Black

796
01:14:41.319 --> 01:14:47.880
hairy Man in Wales to the manner
of the mist in Sweden. We're dealing

797
01:14:47.920 --> 01:14:54.640
with something that is unknown. This
is where you have to have an over

798
01:14:54.720 --> 01:14:59.640
mind. You can't block this.
Oh absolutely, I mean yeah, it's

799
01:15:00.600 --> 01:15:03.760
it's respect others and have an open
mind is one of the most important things

800
01:15:03.840 --> 01:15:09.119
you can you can do. Yeah, I agree, and I trusted me

801
01:15:09.119 --> 01:15:17.359
in Jeremiah. Once I get the
final results, are recontacting you, hey,

802
01:15:17.479 --> 01:15:24.359
and definitely I appreciate that. Definitely
we'll be talking to you again,

803
01:15:24.399 --> 01:15:27.439
I think so. Yeah, if
we have a major breakthrough up in the

804
01:15:27.479 --> 01:15:30.399
Swan, you're one of the first
one. Well, the group will know

805
01:15:30.520 --> 01:15:35.199
part of course, so you'll be
aware of it. Yeah, we can

806
01:15:35.239 --> 01:15:40.960
do something to do another one or
which fell be some more coming up.

807
01:15:41.359 --> 01:15:47.119
Absolutely the way it's going because we're
looking at we are getting there. That's

808
01:15:47.119 --> 01:15:53.720
getting close, dude, it's getting
close. Yes, you can. Can

809
01:15:53.760 --> 01:15:59.279
you take a few minutes and remind
listeners how they can keep up to date

810
01:15:59.319 --> 01:16:03.399
with everything that you've got going on, and they'll definitely want to keep up.

811
01:16:03.479 --> 01:16:06.279
Yeah, okay, going on the
group. Yeah, the group on

812
01:16:06.520 --> 01:16:14.600
Facebook is a Montena Bigfoot International Research
Group INTERNATIONALS because we have twenty one chapters

813
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all over the world that does field
research. The domain is ww the Montana

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Bigfoot Group Research Group dot com.
I couldn't put it into a national in

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there because it's too big, right, those you monitor the domain that I'm

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redoing, And if you want to
join the group on Facebook, answer the

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questions. Yes, answer them because
you get your will get denied. My

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monitor waters are right on top of
it. And you know, we welcome

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everybody. We're not like a lot
of groups. Oh I got thirty five

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thousand members. That's not us,
right, say, you're absolutely right.

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Is a smaller community, but it
is a very cool community of bigfoot researchers

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enthusiasts is very very cool group.
I like it and so and look at

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my Michael Young automolation exactly while I've
got yeah, I've got stuff coming from

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all over the world. Oh yeah, well, Kenn, thank you so

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much for chatting again. It has
been a very enlightening night. And uh,

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who knows what will happen next?
For sure, Well you're going to

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get it. So oh yeah,
I know it. I'm glad. I'm

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glad you said yeah, let's do
this because there is a lot of information,

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a lot. That's a lot,
a lot has happened, all right,

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thanks for chatting, Ken, Oh
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