April 16, 2026

Multiple Bigfoot Encounters Across Ohio — Witnesses Describe What They Saw!

Multiple Bigfoot Encounters Across Ohio — Witnesses Describe What They Saw!
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Season 1

In this episode, we explore two firsthand Bigfoot encounters unfolding across Ohio, each one rooted in real experiences that leave a lasting impression.


Gigi shares a recent series of events near a quiet stretch of conservation land where subtle changes in the environment began to stand out. Strange sounds near the water, large impressions in the ground, and carefully formed grass structures all build toward a moment she never expected—a daylight sighting of a tall reddish-brown figure moving through an open field. What follows includes the discovery of tracks and a growing sense that something is actively moving through the area.


We then head to the Dayton region, where Caleb recounts a late-night encounter at Sycamore State Park. During what started as a normal fishing trip, he and a friend noticed something unusual near a trash can at the edge of a lit clearing. Within seconds, they were looking at a large upright figure that moved silently into the darkness. His story continues with additional activity reported by others working in the same park system, along with an eerie wood knock experience that still stands out years later.


From wetlands and conservation land to public parks and wooded corridors, this episode brings together encounters from different parts of Ohio that point to ongoing activity across the state.


These are direct accounts from the people who experienced them.


If you’ve been following the recent surge of sightings in Ohio, this is one you need to hear.


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You're listening to Bigflett Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron. In

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this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to bring

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you first hand encounters from people who say they've seen

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something impossible. From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers to

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quiet farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere,

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and each one leaves us with more questions than answers.

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These are the voices of the people who've lived it.

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To settle in, because today you'll hear another account that

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just might change the way you see the woods forever.

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So stay with us, all right, biglet Society, Welcome back

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to another episode. Today we have the privilege of talking

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to an individual named Gigi that reached out through email

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the information about the location of this group of experiences.

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Per the witnesses request, we are going to keep to

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the state of Ohio and that's as much as we

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are going to get into that, which is no problem.

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But Gigi, welcome to the show. How are you doing today?

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I'm doing well. Thank you for having me.

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How are you doing great? Doing a lot of interviews

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right now, talking to a lot of people all over

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the place, which is great and a lot of people

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in Ohio, actually all over the state. People are reaching out.

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So it's been a great time. But it sounds like

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you have quite a story to share. But before we

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get going, is there anything else that you would want

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to share about yourself for contacts for the listeners or

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we're just keeping it extremely basic in this.

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Read I'm basic for right now?

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Yeah, I think so perfect. Well, feel free to take

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us back to the time where either things started happening

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or where you'd like to start the story.

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I've always grown up being open to like nature and exploring.

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I was born in Washington State, and I grew up

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being in the woods, the biggest trees in the world,

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so I know what it's like to be around that stuff.

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But I didn't grow up where my family was like, oh, yeah,

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Bigfoot's out there. I had no idea. I grew up

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watching finey book. But when I got a little bit older,

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I'm like, oh, Bigfoot. Recently, I experienced something that was

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very strange, and I never thought it would happen living

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in Ohio, but yeah, it was something very different, and

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it's so much different than watching something online and hearing stories.

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It's very much different experiencing it for yourself.

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Yeah, I think that's that's a great point to bring up.

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Is when things start happening in your backyard or in

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your neighborhood, things get real pretty pretty quick, and they do. Yeah,

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what was the first time that you realized that something

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out of the ordinary was happening out there? In Ohio?

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I would always explore the woods there by myself, and

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I never felt scared. I'm used to being outdoors. I

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could get lost in the woods for a couple hours

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because maybe four years ago I went over there by myself,

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and normally in this spot near this martiness, there's like

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you can see evidence of deer and other animals, but

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there's this very large spot that like something was laying

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down and I'm like, that's really strange. So I kept going,

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and then I noticed deer trucks like running off and

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that's very weird. And then I noticed these very weird

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scratch marks on this tree and I'm like, huh, that's weird.

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And then I keep going and then there's some more

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and I'm like, huh, maybe it's deer. Maybe it's a

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bucking rut, because you know it's September, it's towards the

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end of September, and then all of a sudden, there's

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something that's like grunting really loudly in these dark bushes

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next to the water, and I could not figure out

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what it was, and I was starting to get a

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little bit scared, and I'm like, that's really weird. And

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then it started getting louder, and I'm like, huh, maybe

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it's just a deer, so I put off. But then

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when I started to hear something else coming from the bushes,

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like it was down near the water. It was like

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this dark spot with these rocks, and I'm like, huh,

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that's kind of strange. I should probably get out of here.

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And then that was probably the first time I really

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noticed something strange over there. Maybe it was just deer,

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but it was very out of the ordinary because I

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would go over there all the time by myself, and

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I never saw anything strange until that point where I

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realized this is not normal.

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Gotcha, So it sounds like definitely the noises had a

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part in you realizing that that it is not normal.

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And how close is this to where is this just

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in your backyard or.

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So? Where I live and my parents live, we live

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very close to each other. And at the time I

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lived with them. Where we lived, there's conservation land across

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the street, so it's one hundred and twenty two acres

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of just meadow, marshlands, wetlands, forests, so it's very open.

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People used to be allowed to hunt over there, and

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they are not allowed to anymore. There's been a lot

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of ongoing things to restore the area, so as of late,

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there hasn't been any a lot of human activities, so

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it's given a lot more way for more animals to

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feel safer over there.

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Gotcha, So after that, was it a thing where you

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had that experience and then things you know, it didn't

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really happen for a while, or did things continue to

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happen after that?

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Nothing really happened for a while. I'd still go over there.

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We take the kids at are Forest School over there,

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and there was never an issue. I never went to

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that exact spot ever again it was too eerie for me.

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But there was different spots in the woods that we

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would just go to. But there was just strange things

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over there that just didn't seem out of the normal

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where it felt comfortable to be taking you know, people

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over there. So for safety in mind, it's like, Okay,

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nothing happened for a while, but things are getting strange.

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Things don't seem like they normally should. So for the

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best being of what I do for my job, I

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was like, let's not go over there.

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Yeah, absolutely need to make the right decision. What kind

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of strange things were happening that you noticed.

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We went over there one time, a little bit farther

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up actually from where I originally saw and experienced this

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weird noise and what there is these strange grass huts

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near the water, and they were so perfectly put together.

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And we went over there and we were very perplexed

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by these strange grass huts and we were like, is

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this a muskrat? This is a beaver? There's no way,

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and we assumed it was a muskrat. And then we

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tried to go in another direction from these grass huts.

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We kind of got lost in the woods a little been.

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It was very weird trying to get back because these

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grass huts kind of just threw us out of like

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where we were and trying to go around them. It

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was just very not normal. It was kind of an

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eerie feeling, like you feel like you're being watched, but

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there's nothing there, and then there was a storm coming,

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so it made it even worse.

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How big were these grass huts?

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I would say the biggest one was maybe five feet tall.

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There were some that were lower on the ground that

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were like mounds across, and then there was these broken

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sticks everywhere, and it was very close to the water

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with easier access with the trees how they're lined up

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to where if there was something like we thought it

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was a muskrat, okay, easy access to get through and

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there's no pretters. But if it were something larger with

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these weird huts, it seemed to be like the perfect

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spot because nothing's gonna mess with you there.

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Absolutely. And so this is this is not on on

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the home property, but it's it's close by, correct, Yeah,

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it's close by, yes, okay, okay, So that that is

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a strange thing to see. You've got these and I

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mean that's that's a big sized hut for sure. Were

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there are any other strange things that were going on too?

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I wasn't even looking for bigfoot or anything. It's just

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kind of like enjoy nature and going next. I didn't

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see anything like weird tracks. The huts were really weird.

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I didn't hear weird vocalizations at the time. It was

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just this eerie feeling and finding these weird huts and

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things just felt really out of place because spending time

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over there, it's normally like a calm thing, like you

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just kind of escape for a minute. So to find

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that it was okay, we don't want to go back.

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Got so then after that you stopped going to that area?

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Yeah, yeah, we did.

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Sure. Was there a thing that happened that really made

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you think that what you were experiencing could be related

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to Bigfoot?

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Can I talk about the experience that made me want

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to email you?

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Sure? Yeah? Absolutely.

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I think that's what really started for me is that

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I was in the pasture with the kids and we

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were playing, and I didn't have my phone on me,

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and all of a sudden, these kids were playing, you know,

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there there, and I'm standing in this pasture and all

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of a sudden, I'm looking across the street there's this

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very At first, it was not a person, it was

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not a dog, it was definitely not a barried here.

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It was something that was so strange looking to me

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that my first thought wasn't even like, oh my gosh,

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I'm looking at Bigfoot. It was like this reddish brown figure.

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It had very large muscle mass. But from how far

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away could see you could? It was so strange looking

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to me that I couldn't believe what I was seeing.

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And it was just like there and I'm like, oh

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what And I was like, no, whatever, it's nothing. But

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then I realized, like, oh, I can't even go get

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my phone because what if it's going to be gone.

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I just couldn't believe what I was seeing.

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Okay, that's that's very interesting. When did that happen?

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March eleventh.

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Of this year? Yes, okay, gotcha? And then what time

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of day again?

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I would say between four thirty and six o'clock. It

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was around like four forty five in the evening.

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Okay, how far away would you estimate what you saw

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was from you?

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I tried you using Google Maps to determine it. It

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was at least half a mile or like zero point

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two miles from where I was standing. It's a far

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enough distance, but I've walked in that same exact spot before,

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and to see what I don't know what I saw,

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but to be in that spot if you're a normal

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size person and or you're just walking or I've seen

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deer in that spot. It's very hard to see things

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from that spot. For to be so right there and

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you could see it's something strange enough, it's enough of

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a distance where like, okay, this is not.

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Normal absolutely, so you're you're looking at it with your

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your naked eye or yeah, okay, yeah, got gotcha? Gotcha?

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How tall would you estimate it was?

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I would say to at least six or seven feet

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tall from the distance I could see it at at

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least that for sure.

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Gotcha? Did you Was it just standing there or was

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it doing anything out of the ordinary?

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It was moving through the grass because the grass gets

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very long, so it was it was moving very quickly.

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And then as quickly as it was walking in the

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direction I saw it disappeared and then I didn't see

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it anymore. But it was moving very fast.

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Gotcha. So just so that listeners can have a example,

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So it's it's pretty much like your your two city

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blocks away from what you're looking at. Okay, yeah, that

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was about right, gotcha. Yeah, you said you were with kids.

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How did they react?

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They didn't notice because they were playing this game about

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getting the bad guys and they had this tractor so

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they didn't know it, and I wasn't going to point

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out like, oh hey, guys, you see that thing over there.

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They had no idea what was going on.

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Okay, now did you Were you able to go over

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to that area afterwards to take a look around, or

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were you really staying away from that area because of

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what you saw.

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I went over the next day with kids from my

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forest school and we went about halfway up the path

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in I saw tracks, But then after that I decided

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this was something that kids do not need to be exploring,

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So me and my mom decided we were just gonna

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go over there ourselves. But the tracks I got pictures of,

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and I found that to be very interesting because I've

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never seen anything like that before and I wasn't expecting

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to actually find anything, but finding those tracks was assigned

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for me that something is definitely over here. And when

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we went up further, we found more tracks, and it

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was very strange because it's like something to not want

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us to be over there.

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Yeah. Absolutely, and you sent me those are the photos

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that you sent me or the tracks? Correct?

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Okay? Is it okay if I share those in the

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YouTube version.

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Of this, Yeah, you can do that. That'd be great.

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Okay, thank you, thank you, very very interesting. How did

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you How did you feel emotionally when you were having

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this sighting of something that you're looking at.

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I was honestly terrified because I've always heard stories, but

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this feeling of experiences for myself is like nothing that

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I could ever hear someone else say about it that

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I feel. It's terrifying that they've been so close to

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something that I don't know what it is. It's not

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a monkey in the woods. This is something else. This

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isn't just oh, there's a monkey hiding out somewhere. This

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is like some grilling. No, this is something bigger than

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people realizing it's something. And I'm still trying to figure

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out for myself because I can't explain it enough.

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Right because I mean, we're recording this on the twenty fifth,

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so I mean that's just two weeks ago that you had.

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This sighting is pretty recent. Yeah, And as we were

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talking before, I mean, that's that's the same time period.

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Well it's so the eleventh was a day after what's

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being called the Ohio Bigfoot Flap, happened between March sixth

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through the tenth, eight sightings up in Portage County and

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Trumbull County, and so this sighting happened on the eleventh,

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we're saying somewhere in Ohio. So yeah, yeah, absolutely, which

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I mean, there have been just people reaching out. I've

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had some conversations from all over the state, as you

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can imagine. Yeah, there's a lot a lot moving around

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right now. What did your You said your mom went

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with you the next day and was there with the tracks.

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What was she feeling about the whole situation?

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She felt as scared as I was about it, and

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we got this really sick feeling and our hearts were raceed,

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and it was very scary for the both of us

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because she's had her own bigfoot sightings herself whenever she lives.

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She was born in Washington and she grew up there,

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so for her to experience something like this here, it

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brought back memories for her of living there, and this

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is something completely different than just hearing about it. For her,

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she was as scared as I.

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Was, absolutely.

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So then how did how did this affect you after

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having this experience? What have the last two weeks been

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like for you?

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I went about halfway up there on this trail, but

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I didn't see anything normal. I still heard the birds

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in the spring papers, trying to keep my eye out

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over there, but I have not been over there, and

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I've just been looking with binoculars, but of course I'm

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not going to see anything from the road. My own

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family members have went over there and they have seen tracks.

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And there was one grass hut and it had sticks

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put over it, and he did not see anything else,

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but he thought it was very strange over there that

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this one grass hut that was probably about five he

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told it had these sticks put over it like an

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x and he thought that was very weird. But as

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for myself, the past two weeks, I've just been a

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little freaked out and kind of APPREHENSI about the thought

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of trying to explore the woods at all right now,

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just trying not to go out as much.

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Really sure, absolutely how big were the sticks that were

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being used?

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I do not know.

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Or Oh, that's true, that's true, because you would have

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been told about that, right, Yeah, yeah, for sure. So

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this this area of Ohio that we're talking about, have

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you heard of other people having experiences in the same

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area where they've had bigfoot sightings or experienced strange things.

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I don't know of anyone personally that has. I have

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not talked to anyone else about it.

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Gotcha? Okay, So this is this is definitely a very

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new thing for you.

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Wow.

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Any other experiences that you would want to share that

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have happened in your life so far that that might

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be related to Bigfoot? You think.

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I could talk about the experience my mom had if

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she's seen something in the fog when I.

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Was a baby, I mean, if you think she'd be

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okay with it.

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This was in Washington, in near Ocean City. It was

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like early morning and she looks out the window and

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then she sees these two hairy looking figures that aren't

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very tall, but they to her it's like, is this annoying? Pendick?

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What is this? And these two strange creatures come out

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of the fog and they are not a bear or

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anything of like that, and it completely freaked her out

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for wanting to go in the woods for a long

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time because these two creatures just came out of nowhere

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and you could see that this is not normal, and

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so for her that was like, Okay, I don't think

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I want to talk about this with anybody. It was

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just too scary.

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Wow, do you know what year or what time period

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that would have happened in.

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That would have been at least maybe November or December

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of two thousand and two.

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Okay, yeah, I mean Ocean City, Ocean Shores, that whole

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area is a really really active Bigfoot area.

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I mean, you've got Grace Harbor right there, you go

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up No North, and you've got he mean, you go

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right into the Olympic Peninsula. The whole thing is just

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even the reports I've gotten are just crazy. It's not

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surprising at all that your mom would have had that experience.

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I actually grew up all along those areas do described,

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And I was in those woods as a kid growing

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up until we moved to Ohio when I was nine,

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So I know exactly what you're talking about hearing about

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the stories. I never saw anything myself. As a kid.

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We would hear we are vocalizations at night being in

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the woods. It was just very strange because it's like, oh,

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is that an ilk? Is that a bear? But there

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are some noises you just can't explain, and it was

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very strange. I always wanted as a kid to try

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and find Bigfoot, and I never saw anything for myself.

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Until now, but Washington, for me everything bigfoot. You know,

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people always have their stories, so for me to experience

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is something like this in Ohio and I'm like, wow,

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this is crazy.

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Yeah, absolutely, Maybe going back to your Ohio sighting for

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a few minutes, are there any other details that you

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would want to share about that really made you notice

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what was happening or seem data place.

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There was a couple of years ago, maybe at least four.

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It was maybe around like midnight or one in the morning.

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I was outside and I was sitting on the stairs,

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and across the street there was these I don't even

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know if it has anything to do with Bigfoot, but

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there is these very strange like floating orbs or these

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weird lights that were going in and out above the

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trees and in the sky. And it was very strange

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for me to see something like that because it's not

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something you would correlate with Bigfoot, But there was very

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strange things happening across the street with these weird lights

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at night. And then I would occasionally see stuff over

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there and I'm wondering, oh, this is really strange. And

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so there were times where I wasn't I was just

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looking across the street and wondering if there was something

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else going on over there that I'm not understanding.

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How close was that to where you sighting was right there?

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Actually?

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Okay? Same? Yeah, Well that is wild, very very interesting

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stuff and again super super recent as well. Would you

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want to have if you were given the choice, let's say,

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would you want to have another citing experience or or

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weird encounter like this?

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Again, Yes and no if something's gonna happen for me,

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I was aware of the sightings of a bigfoot whenever

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I didn't think it would happen to me. So for

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something to happen again, I don't want to be thinking

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about and like trying to trick myself being like, oh yeah,

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I'm going to go out and find bigfoot, because then

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I'll never actually be genuine something For me that if

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you're actually going to see a bigfoot or experience something

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that's out of it's paranormal. It's if it's genuine, you're

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going to be in such shock. You're not thinking about

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what other people are experiencing. It's just something that's just

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comes out of nowhere. So yes and no. For me,

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do I want to see and experience other things again, Yes,

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but at the same time no, because if it's going

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to happen, it's just going to happen.

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Yeah, I agree that if it is, it is a thing.

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If it's going to happen, it's going to happen for sure. Well, Gigi,

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thank you for sharing your experience is so far. I

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want to make sure that you were able to share

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everything that you would come on the show to share tonight.

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Yes, I have, thank you. This has been great.

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Well, thank you so much, and please keep us informed

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if in your area of Ohio, if you experience anything else,

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we would love to hear about it. You can reach

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out to me through email and would love to get

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an update for But thank you, thank you very much.

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All Right, Big for Society. You've got the privilege of

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talking to Caleb from Ohio today. Caleb contacted me about

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some an experience they had and out there in the

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well we'll say Caleb is okay to say the Dayton,

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Ohio area. Yeah, yeah, perfect, And a little bit of

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info info about Caleb that was provided. Caleb's a worker

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for the local park district doing maintenance and he'll he'll

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probably provide a little bit more info about where we're

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at or where we're talking about when we started up

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the conversation. But how are things going for you today.

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Caleb, Oh, it's going good.

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It's going good, awesome, awesome. You know, there's a lot

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of a lot of talk right now about Ohio. There's

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a lot of bigfoot activity in Ohio over the years

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that has been you know, reported, and so this is

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actually you know, for listeners that might not have the

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map up over at big for Society podcast dot com.

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We're gonna be talking about the opposite side, so more

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the western side of Ohio kind of down by, not

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really super the southwest corner, but you know, Dayton's Dayton's

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close enough, I would say. But anything else that the

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listeners would want to know about yourself before we get going, Uh.

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Yeah, I'm a in my late twenties, I'm a I'm

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a pretty avid outdoorsman. Turkey season's coming up, waters warming up.

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I can't wait to head back out fishing. Probably my

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love for the woods is probably how I eventually seen one,

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you know, I mean, if you spend enough time, you know,

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eventually you'll come across something. And I guess I had

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mine about ten years ago.

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M So, so this experience that we're going to be

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talking about happened about you're saying happened about ten years ago.

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Twenty sixteen. Yeah, in between my junior and senior year

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of high school.

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Fantastic. Now, let's let's get right into it then, Cale,

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feel free to take us back to you know, when

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you're that time period of your life about ten, ten

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years ago, what it was like back then, what you were,

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why you were in that area to begin with that

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particular park, and and yeah, then we'll have a chat

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about it afterwards.

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All right, Well, let's see, like I said, I was

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seventeen years old, me and my buddy, he was a

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year older than me. He had just graduated around that time.

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It was a real big thing on in YouTube. And

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then you know, the fishing community to go on Google Earth,

466
00:27:49.519 --> 00:27:51.400
you know, and look for ponds and stuff to fish

467
00:27:51.480 --> 00:27:53.599
something you might have never have, you know, thought of

468
00:27:53.720 --> 00:27:57.440
to fish. I just happened to be scrolling one day,

469
00:27:57.480 --> 00:27:59.880
you know, looking through the maps and whatnot, and I

470
00:28:00.079 --> 00:28:05.119
saw Sycamore State Park. It's in between about Trotwood and Eaton,

471
00:28:05.279 --> 00:28:08.240
kind of in the middle there, close to the border

472
00:28:08.319 --> 00:28:11.640
of Prebble County and Montgomery County. So I had been

473
00:28:11.680 --> 00:28:14.559
there before and boy scouts years ago, but we only

474
00:28:14.640 --> 00:28:18.079
went camping one night, and you know it was nothing

475
00:28:18.759 --> 00:28:21.599
crazy happened then. So I picked my friend up that

476
00:28:21.799 --> 00:28:25.880
night and we got there. Uh, we got there about

477
00:28:26.839 --> 00:28:28.880
seven o'clock ish, if I had a guess, you know,

478
00:28:28.960 --> 00:28:32.480
back then, the sunset didn't go until nine. We parked

479
00:28:32.480 --> 00:28:33.519
in the big parking lot.

480
00:28:33.920 --> 00:28:34.039
Uh.

481
00:28:35.240 --> 00:28:37.359
There was a big it looked like a wedding reception

482
00:28:37.759 --> 00:28:39.480
that night on top of the hill. They had a

483
00:28:39.559 --> 00:28:41.319
really big shelter there at Sycamore.

484
00:28:42.400 --> 00:28:42.519
Uh.

485
00:28:43.759 --> 00:28:45.519
You know, we you know, we walked by, you know,

486
00:28:45.599 --> 00:28:48.039
we congratulated them, and we continued on down the path,

487
00:28:49.440 --> 00:28:53.160
the path, uh, the stairstep going down a big hill

488
00:28:53.480 --> 00:28:57.119
about two three hundred dish yards from the parking lot.

489
00:28:58.400 --> 00:29:00.839
We set up. We you know, we put our poles

490
00:29:00.880 --> 00:29:02.880
in the water. You know, we weren't exactly sure what

491
00:29:02.960 --> 00:29:06.640
we were going to get into. We started catching bluegill,

492
00:29:06.759 --> 00:29:09.160
you know, little things, a little tiny crappie, no bass

493
00:29:09.279 --> 00:29:11.960
or anything. So we had the idea we had nothing

494
00:29:12.000 --> 00:29:13.640
else to do. We were both off. The next day

495
00:29:15.160 --> 00:29:17.559
we started cutting up some of them bluegill, and then

496
00:29:17.599 --> 00:29:19.160
we put them on a hook and we cast them

497
00:29:19.200 --> 00:29:21.759
back out because I knew they sometimes stopped catfish in

498
00:29:21.839 --> 00:29:25.480
this pond sometimes, And sure enough, we ended up getting one,

499
00:29:25.960 --> 00:29:27.799
and then a few minutes later we got another one.

500
00:29:28.200 --> 00:29:32.400
So we stayed for quite a while. We ended up

501
00:29:32.440 --> 00:29:35.359
staying till about ten forty five. I know that park

502
00:29:35.440 --> 00:29:38.039
closes at eleven, so I told him, I said, well

503
00:29:38.079 --> 00:29:39.559
we better get out of here, you know, for a

504
00:29:40.519 --> 00:29:44.039
ranger kicks us out, you know. So we collected all

505
00:29:44.039 --> 00:29:46.440
of our stuff, you know, we had chairs, tackle, I

506
00:29:46.559 --> 00:29:48.559
kept two of the catfish, some of the bigger ones,

507
00:29:49.640 --> 00:29:52.160
and well, we didn't have anything with us light wise,

508
00:29:52.279 --> 00:29:54.839
flashlight wise, Like I said, we didn't really intend on

509
00:29:55.000 --> 00:29:58.599
staying that late. We were just gonna kind of pull around,

510
00:29:58.680 --> 00:30:00.200
you know, in the water, see if we can get

511
00:30:00.240 --> 00:30:02.160
anything to hit. And we didn't intend to do as

512
00:30:02.200 --> 00:30:04.960
good as we did. So the only source of light

513
00:30:05.039 --> 00:30:07.400
we had was he had his phone. I left my

514
00:30:07.440 --> 00:30:09.720
phone in the car, so he was in front of

515
00:30:09.839 --> 00:30:13.079
us with his flashlight on his phone and we're slowly

516
00:30:13.160 --> 00:30:15.359
walking back up them stairs, and the stairs are a

517
00:30:15.400 --> 00:30:18.119
little eerie. If anybody knows that area, it's a lot

518
00:30:18.160 --> 00:30:21.559
of honeysuckle, bigger honeysuckle too, So it's kind of like

519
00:30:21.640 --> 00:30:23.920
a like a cove, like to keep trimming it, you know,

520
00:30:24.000 --> 00:30:27.559
but it keeps circling into it at a trying to

521
00:30:27.599 --> 00:30:29.400
think of the word for it. They like round into

522
00:30:29.480 --> 00:30:31.000
each other. So it's kind of like a big cove

523
00:30:31.119 --> 00:30:33.319
of just dark honeysuckle. And you can't really see that

524
00:30:33.440 --> 00:30:36.039
far in the woods because how thick it is. And

525
00:30:36.119 --> 00:30:37.920
you know, we're not really talking, we're kind of we

526
00:30:38.000 --> 00:30:39.880
were both a little burly in high school. We were

527
00:30:39.920 --> 00:30:42.319
walking up the stairs, you know, not really saying a word,

528
00:30:42.440 --> 00:30:44.880
just trying to catch our breath. And we get to

529
00:30:44.960 --> 00:30:46.440
the top of the hill. On the top of the hill,

530
00:30:46.480 --> 00:30:50.920
there's a clearing, you know, and we turned, you know,

531
00:30:51.000 --> 00:30:54.319
we turned to the right, you know, to go into

532
00:30:54.400 --> 00:30:57.000
the clearing, which goes into the parking lot, into the

533
00:30:57.240 --> 00:31:00.680
playground area the shelter, and we both happen to notice

534
00:31:00.720 --> 00:31:04.000
something to her right. Uh, there's a security light on

535
00:31:04.079 --> 00:31:10.039
the shelter. Yeah, probably the rangers can see if anybody homeless,

536
00:31:10.039 --> 00:31:12.400
people are sleeping in it or whatnot. But there's a

537
00:31:12.440 --> 00:31:14.640
trash can right on the edge of the light. And

538
00:31:14.720 --> 00:31:16.440
then you know, obviously where they're you know, where the

539
00:31:16.559 --> 00:31:19.359
light ended, and we could see something kind of bent

540
00:31:19.480 --> 00:31:22.359
over in the trash digging around. We thought it was

541
00:31:22.400 --> 00:31:25.599
a raccoon or whatnot. So I whistle at it and

542
00:31:25.720 --> 00:31:28.400
this thing stands up and the top of the trash

543
00:31:28.480 --> 00:31:30.720
can is only to about in between its knee and

544
00:31:30.759 --> 00:31:34.920
its spot or excuse me, knee and waste. And it

545
00:31:35.000 --> 00:31:36.960
doesn't take it only stares at us for about a

546
00:31:37.039 --> 00:31:39.200
second and we see it turn and as it turns,

547
00:31:39.319 --> 00:31:41.960
we see as something swinging. Thinking back on it, now,

548
00:31:42.000 --> 00:31:44.359
I'm thinking it's probably its arm, and then it just

549
00:31:44.480 --> 00:31:48.319
vanishes into the distance, and we're scared. You know, more

550
00:31:48.359 --> 00:31:53.079
of my friend than me. Uh you know, I growing up,

551
00:31:53.160 --> 00:31:55.960
I watched all of them shows on you know, Animal Planet,

552
00:31:56.160 --> 00:31:59.119
History Channel, Monster Quest all that, so I kind of,

553
00:31:59.279 --> 00:32:00.880
you know, I was like, oh, shoot, that was a

554
00:32:00.920 --> 00:32:03.559
big fit. My buddy had no idea, so he was

555
00:32:03.640 --> 00:32:05.799
freaking out. We're not running to our car, but we're

556
00:32:05.839 --> 00:32:08.640
definitely fast walking, and it was kind of like in

557
00:32:08.720 --> 00:32:11.200
a horror movie. Not to sound corny or anything, but

558
00:32:11.279 --> 00:32:13.519
you know, we're hurrying up putting stuff in the car.

559
00:32:13.680 --> 00:32:15.519
You know, I pulled my keys out and drop them

560
00:32:15.559 --> 00:32:17.000
on the ground. Of course, I told you, it's just

561
00:32:17.079 --> 00:32:20.359
like a horror movie. Troupe eventually put the keys in

562
00:32:20.400 --> 00:32:22.240
the car and then we floor it out of there,

563
00:32:22.680 --> 00:32:25.039
not realizing later that my buddy had left his tackle

564
00:32:25.079 --> 00:32:26.880
box on the ground. He was so shook up he

565
00:32:26.960 --> 00:32:30.039
forgot to put it in the passenger seat. But we

566
00:32:30.160 --> 00:32:33.000
floor it out of there and we drive on back.

567
00:32:33.079 --> 00:32:35.200
It's pretty quiet drive back. You know, we're both pretty

568
00:32:35.200 --> 00:32:39.519
shook up. But uh, that was And like I said earlier,

569
00:32:41.359 --> 00:32:44.960
there was a there was a wedding reception, a bride

570
00:32:45.000 --> 00:32:46.960
in the groom, and all the grooms understanding around. At

571
00:32:47.000 --> 00:32:48.720
least I'm assuming it was a wedding. Everybody was in

572
00:32:48.759 --> 00:32:52.079
white dresses and tuxas. But the only thing we can

573
00:32:52.119 --> 00:32:55.240
think of is that it was probably dumpster diving. I

574
00:32:55.319 --> 00:32:56.920
know that sounds more of like what a bear or

575
00:32:56.960 --> 00:32:58.799
a raccoon does. But in that part of the state,

576
00:32:58.960 --> 00:33:02.519
you know, there's not really that many bayers wandering around.

577
00:33:02.599 --> 00:33:02.759
You know.

578
00:33:03.039 --> 00:33:05.759
If there is one, it's a lone male, you know.

579
00:33:05.880 --> 00:33:07.480
But what are the odds that we ran into that

580
00:33:07.839 --> 00:33:10.680
and that it swung its arm around the can?

581
00:33:10.799 --> 00:33:10.960
You know?

582
00:33:12.799 --> 00:33:15.799
Yeah, absolutely, Mike, My goodness, that's that is wild. It's

583
00:33:15.839 --> 00:33:19.240
not the first time I've heard of, you know, a

584
00:33:19.400 --> 00:33:25.279
sighting of a bigfoot around garbage can or I'm thinking

585
00:33:25.359 --> 00:33:32.880
of the Oklahoma Casino footage sighting where there was one

586
00:33:32.920 --> 00:33:36.400
getting into the dumpster that had the uh it was

587
00:33:36.480 --> 00:33:39.079
like the grease trap dumpster. And that was that was

588
00:33:39.119 --> 00:33:41.920
from a while while back. But how long would you

589
00:33:42.079 --> 00:33:45.759
say that you had the actual sighting of of what

590
00:33:45.920 --> 00:33:46.680
you were looking at.

591
00:33:47.279 --> 00:33:49.599
By the time we looked at it, and then you know,

592
00:33:49.680 --> 00:33:51.759
I whistle at it, you know, like I said, I

593
00:33:51.799 --> 00:33:53.799
thought it was like a raccoon, like just sitting on top.

594
00:33:54.359 --> 00:33:56.400
I whistle at it. It might have been less than

595
00:33:56.480 --> 00:34:01.720
like fifteen seconds. And you know, like a if you're

596
00:34:01.759 --> 00:34:03.519
like in a barn or whatever and there's a there's

597
00:34:03.519 --> 00:34:07.319
a light hanging off of it. The space, the dark

598
00:34:07.400 --> 00:34:09.800
part right past the light is really dark. So once

599
00:34:09.840 --> 00:34:12.360
it vanished down to the light, it was just pitch black.

600
00:34:12.440 --> 00:34:14.360
We had no idea, you know, how far it went,

601
00:34:15.280 --> 00:34:17.280
you know, but it was only about fifteen seconds of

602
00:34:17.360 --> 00:34:19.840
what we could see. We never heard it, you know,

603
00:34:19.960 --> 00:34:22.840
the grass was kind of dewy. We didn't hear it

604
00:34:22.960 --> 00:34:25.920
like trudging through the woods. So for all we knew,

605
00:34:25.920 --> 00:34:27.760
it just you know, went a few yards and just

606
00:34:27.840 --> 00:34:28.800
stopped and looked at us.

607
00:34:28.840 --> 00:34:34.679
We had no idea, right, absolutely, so you were able

608
00:34:34.840 --> 00:34:41.199
to you could see that where the troup where the

609
00:34:41.280 --> 00:34:45.360
top of the trash can hit on its leg or.

610
00:34:45.440 --> 00:34:48.079
Yeah, like right against like its knee and its waist.

611
00:34:48.920 --> 00:34:51.639
Right, So how would you be able to estimate then

612
00:34:52.320 --> 00:34:54.039
how tall you would think it was?

613
00:34:54.760 --> 00:34:56.639
Well? There, I think that the same cans that we

614
00:34:56.840 --> 00:35:01.760
use in our metro parks, and those cans they come

615
00:35:01.840 --> 00:35:04.679
up to over your waist if you're an average size male.

616
00:35:06.079 --> 00:35:07.360
So if I had to guess, this one might have

617
00:35:07.400 --> 00:35:09.519
been seven seven and a half feet if I because

618
00:35:09.519 --> 00:35:12.480
I'm six foot and it comes up a little over

619
00:35:12.599 --> 00:35:16.039
my waist, so it's probably about seven is if it

620
00:35:16.079 --> 00:35:17.159
went above its knee.

621
00:35:19.320 --> 00:35:24.159
Gotcha. So you already said there were no real sounds

622
00:35:24.199 --> 00:35:28.480
that you heard. So sometimes witnesses will will say, you know,

623
00:35:29.199 --> 00:35:33.159
they'll report they heard it making some kind of animal

624
00:35:33.280 --> 00:35:35.880
type noise, but nothing like that in this situation.

625
00:35:37.000 --> 00:35:40.400
No, No, the shelter from where you come up the hill,

626
00:35:40.800 --> 00:35:42.559
like I said, it's real grown up and brush you

627
00:35:42.639 --> 00:35:45.559
you can't see until you get to the very top

628
00:35:45.639 --> 00:35:47.800
of it. And then right on the right is like

629
00:35:47.880 --> 00:35:50.440
the opening where there's like a bathroom, a playground, a shelter,

630
00:35:51.079 --> 00:35:52.719
and if I had to guess, the shelter might have

631
00:35:52.800 --> 00:35:57.000
been if I had to guess forty or fifty yards

632
00:35:57.039 --> 00:35:58.840
away from the opening. So and it was. There was

633
00:35:58.880 --> 00:36:00.519
a lot of bugs out that night too. It was

634
00:36:00.599 --> 00:36:02.360
really wild with bugs and whatnot.

635
00:36:03.480 --> 00:36:06.559
Okay, I'm looking at a map of this particular park,

636
00:36:06.880 --> 00:36:11.960
and I'm noticing was your situation. Was it near the

637
00:36:12.000 --> 00:36:14.119
equestrian camp part of the park.

638
00:36:14.880 --> 00:36:17.440
No, it's got quite a few areas that aren't open

639
00:36:17.519 --> 00:36:20.480
to hunting, and that could be for various reasons. The

640
00:36:20.559 --> 00:36:23.320
part of the park I was in, like I said,

641
00:36:23.360 --> 00:36:27.519
it's got a shelter house, a playground, a youth fishing pond.

642
00:36:29.840 --> 00:36:31.480
You used to have two shelters. I believe that one

643
00:36:31.519 --> 00:36:34.280
of them got torn down. There's a family fishing pond,

644
00:36:34.280 --> 00:36:38.119
which is what we were fishing at. That was some

645
00:36:38.239 --> 00:36:42.519
of the areas you can't hunt. I hunt down there

646
00:36:42.599 --> 00:36:45.800
quite a bit. Actually, Sycamore State Park is over two

647
00:36:45.840 --> 00:36:49.599
thousand acres and it's actually the only piece of public

648
00:36:49.679 --> 00:36:52.159
land in Montgomery County that you can hunt at, so

649
00:36:52.320 --> 00:36:55.719
it gets quite a bit of pressure. But in the

650
00:36:55.840 --> 00:36:58.559
hunting areas, you know, after that experience, you know, I've looked,

651
00:36:58.599 --> 00:37:00.320
you know, I was like, I wonder if I'll see anything,

652
00:37:00.360 --> 00:37:02.559
But I've never seen anything out of the ordinary, heard

653
00:37:02.599 --> 00:37:03.719
anything anything.

654
00:37:03.519 --> 00:37:03.760
Like that.

655
00:37:05.920 --> 00:37:06.960
That's really interesting.

656
00:37:07.159 --> 00:37:07.760
I do have.

657
00:37:09.800 --> 00:37:13.639
On my map on big for Society podcast dot com.

658
00:37:13.760 --> 00:37:19.679
I have a few reports from north of Dayton, kind

659
00:37:19.719 --> 00:37:22.119
of near if you know where Tips City is. And

660
00:37:22.239 --> 00:37:25.239
I know definitely others in the in the area as well.

661
00:37:25.800 --> 00:37:29.000
But have you ever heard of anyone else experiencing anything

662
00:37:29.039 --> 00:37:31.840
else or experiencing anything like this in Sycamore?

663
00:37:32.599 --> 00:37:32.800
Yeah?

664
00:37:32.880 --> 00:37:35.639
About this might I think it was all forgive me

665
00:37:35.679 --> 00:37:38.000
if I don't have the It was August of I

666
00:37:38.239 --> 00:37:41.480
think twenty. I think it was last August, come to

667
00:37:41.519 --> 00:37:44.760
think of it. One of my coworkers works at another park.

668
00:37:44.920 --> 00:37:47.400
She was she was scouting out the area. She's a

669
00:37:47.440 --> 00:37:50.440
little newer to the area. She was scouting out Sycamore

670
00:37:50.480 --> 00:37:52.280
and this actually was in one of the Honting areas.

671
00:37:52.320 --> 00:37:54.320
And like I said, it was August. It was well

672
00:37:54.360 --> 00:37:57.599
above ninety degrees and she was looking for a spot

673
00:37:57.679 --> 00:38:00.840
to maybe hang a stand along from power line they

674
00:38:00.920 --> 00:38:03.480
go through the park. There's quite a few power lines

675
00:38:03.519 --> 00:38:07.840
that go throughout Sycamore from an as. That's date used

676
00:38:07.840 --> 00:38:10.239
to be dating power and lights that they got bought out.

677
00:38:10.719 --> 00:38:14.320
But anyway, those those power lines are good. You see

678
00:38:14.320 --> 00:38:16.320
a lot of deer in them, a lot of turkey,

679
00:38:16.360 --> 00:38:19.519
a lot of game use them. She was walking about

680
00:38:19.840 --> 00:38:23.960
six o'clock. She was, you know, crossing one of these

681
00:38:24.000 --> 00:38:27.199
power lines. She looks up about two hundred yards up

682
00:38:27.239 --> 00:38:30.239
the hill and she sees something all black and she's like, well,

683
00:38:30.239 --> 00:38:32.159
that's weird. There's no trail up there. You know, it

684
00:38:32.199 --> 00:38:35.920
would have to be someone off trail gallabout and around.

685
00:38:36.000 --> 00:38:38.000
But she said this was all black and she was like,

686
00:38:38.119 --> 00:38:41.679
that's kind of weird. You know, it's ninety ninety one,

687
00:38:41.800 --> 00:38:44.320
ninety two degrees. She said, that's kind of weird. And

688
00:38:44.440 --> 00:38:46.519
she said this thing lumbered, you know, just kind of

689
00:38:46.679 --> 00:38:48.079
it was kind of hard to tell. Like I said,

690
00:38:48.119 --> 00:38:50.960
she was two hundred feet away, she couldn't really see

691
00:38:50.960 --> 00:38:52.719
that much definition. It's kind of looked like a big

692
00:38:52.840 --> 00:38:56.960
black blob. But it crossed the path in front of her,

693
00:38:56.960 --> 00:38:58.719
and I don't know if it realized she was there,

694
00:38:58.760 --> 00:39:01.159
and it just you know, she said, it kind of

695
00:39:01.199 --> 00:39:04.760
glided across the grass back then you know the in August,

696
00:39:04.800 --> 00:39:07.000
the grass is really tall. It's up to about your chest,

697
00:39:07.280 --> 00:39:10.559
you know, in some of the prairie areas. But yeah,

698
00:39:10.599 --> 00:39:13.360
that's the well. Like I said, I don't really talk.

699
00:39:13.400 --> 00:39:15.719
I don't run into a lot of other people down there.

700
00:39:15.960 --> 00:39:18.000
You run into people down there, but you usually don't

701
00:39:18.039 --> 00:39:19.719
talk to them. You know, if you pull into an

702
00:39:19.880 --> 00:39:22.519
area and there's already a car, you kind of go

703
00:39:22.559 --> 00:39:24.159
to the opposite direction of them, you know, you don't

704
00:39:24.159 --> 00:39:26.159
want to mess up their hunt or anything. So, but

705
00:39:26.280 --> 00:39:29.559
that's the only one I've heard of down there. I

706
00:39:29.679 --> 00:39:34.039
know on the BFRO website, there's some reports in Lebanon,

707
00:39:34.480 --> 00:39:37.760
which is decently close to or New Lebanon, I mean,

708
00:39:37.840 --> 00:39:39.559
which is decently close to Sycamore.

709
00:39:42.440 --> 00:39:45.079
Oh yeah, that's just just south of it looks like

710
00:39:45.360 --> 00:39:51.000
down near thirty five. Being an individual where you're working

711
00:39:51.079 --> 00:39:54.920
in the park system, is it pretty regular then? Do

712
00:39:55.000 --> 00:39:58.840
you guys get reports about people visiting the parks and

713
00:40:00.280 --> 00:40:04.400
having sightings of weird things or things they think could

714
00:40:04.440 --> 00:40:05.039
be a big foot?

715
00:40:05.920 --> 00:40:08.199
At least not really what I'm I'm at one of

716
00:40:08.199 --> 00:40:10.639
the more urban ish parks that's just happens to be

717
00:40:10.719 --> 00:40:12.880
the one I work at. In Dayton's and not really

718
00:40:13.199 --> 00:40:14.639
like it's kind of rare to see a deer in

719
00:40:14.719 --> 00:40:19.000
the park I work at. But I was I was curious,

720
00:40:19.079 --> 00:40:20.480
you know, a few months ago, I was looking at

721
00:40:20.480 --> 00:40:24.119
that Bigfoot Mapping Project website. Sure, and it's kind of wild.

722
00:40:24.199 --> 00:40:27.199
There's quite a few around the parks around the Dayton.

723
00:40:27.039 --> 00:40:33.719
Area that it really makes you wonder. And I know that.

724
00:40:33.960 --> 00:40:36.320
You know, the further south you go down in Ohio,

725
00:40:37.920 --> 00:40:40.519
you get closer to that Ohio River Valley, it does

726
00:40:40.639 --> 00:40:44.400
get does get wilder. But man, you could really it

727
00:40:44.480 --> 00:40:46.800
seems like any any part of Ohio you could you

728
00:40:46.880 --> 00:40:54.599
could find stuff going on. But after you had that experience,

729
00:40:55.679 --> 00:40:59.000
and you know, you had that the sighting of going

730
00:40:59.159 --> 00:41:04.119
through the trash, how did that affect you after that?

731
00:41:05.639 --> 00:41:09.199
Well, we didn't go like I was in high school still,

732
00:41:09.400 --> 00:41:12.639
So after that, me and my buddy, we didn't really

733
00:41:12.679 --> 00:41:15.079
go catfishing much often. After that, we didn't really go

734
00:41:15.239 --> 00:41:17.480
after dark unless it was like a pay lake, you know,

735
00:41:17.639 --> 00:41:22.320
or there's more dozens of other people like that going

736
00:41:22.400 --> 00:41:24.119
out hunting, and you know, in the morning, I would

737
00:41:24.119 --> 00:41:26.159
always kind of be a little sketchy, you know, I'd

738
00:41:26.239 --> 00:41:29.039
look around, I had my headlamp on full full blast,

739
00:41:29.119 --> 00:41:32.880
you know, looking around. But uh, it didn't really you know,

740
00:41:32.920 --> 00:41:35.079
I'm not like I wasn't like shaking in my boots,

741
00:41:35.119 --> 00:41:37.000
but I was definitely like walking in the dark.

742
00:41:37.079 --> 00:41:37.199
You know.

743
00:41:37.280 --> 00:41:39.639
My hair definitely was on was on end, you know,

744
00:41:39.840 --> 00:41:40.559
it was on edge.

745
00:41:42.840 --> 00:41:45.719
Absolutely. I totally told to get that that would be

746
00:41:46.599 --> 00:41:49.360
I haven't had a sighting like that, so that'd be wild,

747
00:41:49.679 --> 00:41:52.719
wild to see. How did they How did it affect

748
00:41:53.119 --> 00:41:56.360
how you thought specifically about Bigfoot? And what I mean

749
00:41:56.440 --> 00:41:59.880
by that is some witnesses, when they have a sighting

750
00:42:00.119 --> 00:42:03.679
or an experience, they will either get super freaked out

751
00:42:03.840 --> 00:42:07.079
and get me away from this topic, or they seem

752
00:42:07.159 --> 00:42:10.400
to like I got to figure out exactly what's what's

753
00:42:10.440 --> 00:42:13.000
going on? Did it send you down either one of

754
00:42:13.079 --> 00:42:15.079
those trails or something completely different?

755
00:42:15.800 --> 00:42:19.119
Well I kind of felt almost kind of lucky, you know.

756
00:42:21.880 --> 00:42:24.079
You know, if these creatures are, you know, as rare

757
00:42:24.159 --> 00:42:26.119
as they say they are, you know, then you know

758
00:42:26.280 --> 00:42:28.119
me just happened to find one. You Like I said,

759
00:42:28.119 --> 00:42:31.719
I haven't seen anything since that was twenty sixteen summer

760
00:42:31.719 --> 00:42:36.480
at twenty sixteen, you know, but like I said, as

761
00:42:36.559 --> 00:42:38.199
much time as I spent out there. It was bound

762
00:42:38.239 --> 00:42:40.599
to happen eventually. You never know it might happen again.

763
00:42:40.760 --> 00:42:43.440
But uh, you know, it does make me a little

764
00:42:43.480 --> 00:42:46.159
more curious, you know. And the more and more you know,

765
00:42:46.280 --> 00:42:48.880
you look into this thing, you know it sometimes you

766
00:42:48.960 --> 00:42:51.039
second guess yourself. I'm like, did I really see what

767
00:42:51.119 --> 00:42:55.199
I saw? And then you know that controversy, I'm sure

768
00:42:55.239 --> 00:42:58.039
you've heard out of that recent controversy about the Patterson

769
00:42:58.039 --> 00:43:01.639
Gimlin film, that documentary. I'm like, well, if that wasn't real,

770
00:43:01.719 --> 00:43:03.239
what did I see? But then you know, you got

771
00:43:03.360 --> 00:43:06.199
to tell yourself, like, well, what is everybody seeing? You know,

772
00:43:06.320 --> 00:43:10.280
it's it's a it's you know, it's nothing that keeps

773
00:43:10.320 --> 00:43:12.400
me up the night, but it is insanely interesting.

774
00:43:12.760 --> 00:43:16.280
I think the validity of a sixty year old film

775
00:43:16.840 --> 00:43:19.760
does not if it's whether it's true or it's false,

776
00:43:19.880 --> 00:43:24.000
doesn't take anything away from what you experienced. To be honest, right,

777
00:43:24.960 --> 00:43:30.440
you you saw something and you're trying to figure out

778
00:43:30.480 --> 00:43:33.960
what it is, and so yeah, that's that's my thoughts there.

779
00:43:34.119 --> 00:43:41.000
But would you ever want to have a sighting of

780
00:43:41.639 --> 00:43:43.000
or an experience like that? Again?

781
00:43:44.840 --> 00:43:50.480
Uh, I guess it kind of depends. Maybe, you know,

782
00:43:50.559 --> 00:43:53.000
I I listen to your show quite a bit, and

783
00:43:53.000 --> 00:43:54.920
you know, you hear some people talk about some aggressive

784
00:43:54.960 --> 00:43:57.400
ones stuff like that. I don't really want to have

785
00:43:57.480 --> 00:44:00.599
anything like that, you know. I Yeah, It's like if

786
00:44:00.639 --> 00:44:02.480
you go into the Smoky Mountains, you know, you want

787
00:44:02.480 --> 00:44:04.679
to see a bear, you don't really want to get

788
00:44:04.679 --> 00:44:06.800
attacked by one, or get charged by one or bullied

789
00:44:06.840 --> 00:44:11.079
out of an area. So I don't know. Maybe I

790
00:44:11.159 --> 00:44:13.320
guess it depends on you know, what it is, you know,

791
00:44:14.320 --> 00:44:18.800
what mood it's in or something like that. I wish

792
00:44:18.840 --> 00:44:20.519
I could get a better look of one, I guess,

793
00:44:20.559 --> 00:44:23.039
is what I'm trying to say. Like it was just

794
00:44:23.119 --> 00:44:24.840
all black to me. It was just it kind of

795
00:44:24.880 --> 00:44:27.519
looked like a human kind of like a shadow we think,

796
00:44:27.559 --> 00:44:30.519
you know, shadow person kind of thing, just because of

797
00:44:30.679 --> 00:44:34.000
how dark it was and how decently far away. We

798
00:44:34.039 --> 00:44:36.840
weren't like hundreds of feet away, but you know, we

799
00:44:36.880 --> 00:44:39.079
couldn't see much detail, Like I couldn't see its face.

800
00:44:39.199 --> 00:44:41.480
It was just all just a black shadow to us.

801
00:44:42.760 --> 00:44:46.360
Yeah. Absolutely, And I think that's a good point where

802
00:44:47.599 --> 00:44:49.760
it's similar to how what I feel as well, is

803
00:44:49.960 --> 00:44:53.159
you know, just it would be nice to have like

804
00:44:53.280 --> 00:44:56.880
a really good clear sighting, which I'm sure everyone in

805
00:44:56.920 --> 00:44:59.039
the community probably thinks the same way.

806
00:44:59.199 --> 00:44:59.400
Beat.

807
00:44:59.679 --> 00:45:01.760
If you're going to see something, it'd be cool to

808
00:45:01.840 --> 00:45:05.440
get a really good, clear sighting of it. Do you

809
00:45:05.480 --> 00:45:10.199
have any thoughts about why there are so many bigfoot

810
00:45:10.239 --> 00:45:13.880
sightings in the state of Ohio. Could there be a

811
00:45:14.000 --> 00:45:17.320
reason for that that you thought of anything like that?

812
00:45:18.679 --> 00:45:21.800
Well, for bigfoot sightings, I think it comes down to

813
00:45:21.960 --> 00:45:24.599
there's just more people that live in the state. I

814
00:45:24.760 --> 00:45:27.360
tell my my uncle lives down in Kentucky, you know,

815
00:45:27.519 --> 00:45:33.800
and he's you know, Kentucky's an insanely wooded state. How

816
00:45:33.920 --> 00:45:35.920
you remember what the metric of it is, It's well

817
00:45:36.000 --> 00:45:39.719
over fifty percent. I think of Kentucky is forested versus Ohio,

818
00:45:39.840 --> 00:45:43.159
that's only thirty percent is give or take. But the

819
00:45:43.239 --> 00:45:47.480
difference is I thought this was kind of funny. Kentucky

820
00:45:47.599 --> 00:45:51.519
and Ohio have the same number of hunting licenses sold

821
00:45:51.599 --> 00:45:55.519
every year comes out to about a million. So but

822
00:45:55.760 --> 00:45:57.920
like I said, Kentucky's got so much more woods, so

823
00:45:58.000 --> 00:46:01.239
everyone's more spread out Ohio, so you don't really have that,

824
00:46:01.559 --> 00:46:04.400
you know, there's not that much room to spread out.

825
00:46:05.360 --> 00:46:08.360
So I think it's just, you know, Ohio's God, don't

826
00:46:08.440 --> 00:46:09.880
quote me on this. I think it's the fourth or

827
00:46:09.960 --> 00:46:13.440
fifth most populous state in the United States, so there's

828
00:46:13.480 --> 00:46:16.000
going to be a lot of people. It's decent habitat

829
00:46:16.039 --> 00:46:19.440
in here, you know. I mean, bobcats are here, Black

830
00:46:19.480 --> 00:46:21.400
bear are starting to move back in. I think they

831
00:46:21.519 --> 00:46:25.440
just saw a fissure I think up in the Cleveland area,

832
00:46:26.320 --> 00:46:28.800
moving in from Pennsylvania. So I mean, that's stuff's there.

833
00:46:28.920 --> 00:46:32.519
But there's a lot of people that like going outside

834
00:46:32.519 --> 00:46:37.119
in Ohio, and unless you're going to like Wayne National Forest,

835
00:46:37.239 --> 00:46:38.920
you know you're going to run into quite a few

836
00:46:38.960 --> 00:46:41.599
other people that are also in the woods. So it's

837
00:46:41.679 --> 00:46:42.800
bound to happen eventually.

838
00:46:42.800 --> 00:46:42.960
You know.

839
00:46:43.000 --> 00:46:45.199
They can't hide forever the Sasquatch.

840
00:46:44.760 --> 00:46:47.280
Can, I mean, yeah, yeah. I mean you bring up

841
00:46:47.280 --> 00:46:50.239
a really good point, which is, you know, as a

842
00:46:50.320 --> 00:46:52.360
Cliff says all the time, in order to have a

843
00:46:52.400 --> 00:46:56.079
big foot sighting, you have to have really two things.

844
00:46:56.159 --> 00:46:57.719
At least, you have to have a big foot and

845
00:46:57.760 --> 00:47:00.800
you have to have someone to actually see the bigfoot.

846
00:47:00.920 --> 00:47:04.760
And so your point is extremely valid. Where there's a

847
00:47:04.840 --> 00:47:08.440
ton of people in that state, and I think why

848
00:47:08.719 --> 00:47:12.079
something like, you know, you had all those sightings up

849
00:47:12.239 --> 00:47:18.039
in the northeast at the beginning of March, Glenn Glenn

850
00:47:18.079 --> 00:47:21.440
Adkins was saying that, you know, the weather was so nice,

851
00:47:21.519 --> 00:47:24.519
so you had all these people out in a time

852
00:47:24.639 --> 00:47:27.320
frame of year that they would normally not be out,

853
00:47:27.400 --> 00:47:30.880
and so that that probably would explain how you had

854
00:47:31.480 --> 00:47:34.599
all these sightings when they were moving through the area.

855
00:47:34.840 --> 00:47:37.679
So I think that's the that's the best explanation i've

856
00:47:37.719 --> 00:47:39.920
heard that situation.

857
00:47:40.360 --> 00:47:42.840
You look at some of our counties populations like, God,

858
00:47:42.920 --> 00:47:45.920
Columbus has a million and a half people in it, really,

859
00:47:46.280 --> 00:47:49.760
but then you go to like counties like I can't

860
00:47:49.760 --> 00:47:51.800
remember the county in Maine that a Kadie is in,

861
00:47:52.039 --> 00:47:54.480
but you know there could be a Sasquatch up there

862
00:47:54.559 --> 00:47:56.480
that lives a whole life and I never run into

863
00:47:56.519 --> 00:48:01.360
a person. That's great. Help you people. The population density

864
00:48:01.440 --> 00:48:04.519
of Maine is insane, but it's ninety percent forested, so

865
00:48:05.000 --> 00:48:05.440
that's true.

866
00:48:05.559 --> 00:48:06.000
That's true.

867
00:48:06.159 --> 00:48:08.920
Kind of places the slink around versus Ohio. You know

868
00:48:09.000 --> 00:48:13.760
there might be like Cuyahoga Valley National Park up in Cleveland.

869
00:48:13.800 --> 00:48:15.360
I know there's been a lot of sightings up there,

870
00:48:16.079 --> 00:48:18.679
But you're in between Cleveland and Akron, which both are

871
00:48:18.719 --> 00:48:21.199
a giant metropolitan area. People are going to see them

872
00:48:21.280 --> 00:48:22.199
up there a lot more.

873
00:48:23.239 --> 00:48:26.480
I would say that, Yeah, you're absolutely right there, that

874
00:48:26.679 --> 00:48:31.320
place is still pretty active. I would say it's a

875
00:48:31.880 --> 00:48:34.000
if I was in that area, I'd be checking it out.

876
00:48:34.039 --> 00:48:39.760
I'll say that. But it's such is it interesting to hear?

877
00:48:40.679 --> 00:48:43.960
And I think this is because of all the those

878
00:48:44.119 --> 00:48:46.800
reports that I've been talking to a lot of people

879
00:48:46.880 --> 00:48:50.000
from Ohio lately. It's interesting to hear how different parts

880
00:48:50.159 --> 00:48:53.239
of the state are. But you know, I just want

881
00:48:53.280 --> 00:48:55.639
to say, you know, Caleb, thank you so much for

882
00:48:55.760 --> 00:49:00.440
coming on sharing what you experienced out there near I

883
00:49:00.519 --> 00:49:03.000
know you've got a lot of weird stuff out there.

884
00:49:03.119 --> 00:49:05.400
You know, you not only have bigfoot, but I think

885
00:49:05.440 --> 00:49:09.159
I've heard you have dog man sightings, all sorts of weirdness.

886
00:49:09.320 --> 00:49:15.480
So in Germantown, He's always asked something you've heard about

887
00:49:15.639 --> 00:49:16.440
out there as well?

888
00:49:17.320 --> 00:49:20.360
Yeah, Germantown where Wolf I've heard some stories down there,

889
00:49:20.960 --> 00:49:25.559
my goodness from our to get too deep into, but

890
00:49:25.639 --> 00:49:27.679
some of our rangers, you know, they've they've said, you know,

891
00:49:27.840 --> 00:49:31.000
people have seen you know, people's dogs are leased down there,

892
00:49:31.039 --> 00:49:33.039
you know, big old black German shepherds. And I'm like,

893
00:49:33.559 --> 00:49:33.960
I don't know.

894
00:49:37.280 --> 00:49:41.760
Wow, Okay, so there you go. That might be well,

895
00:49:41.880 --> 00:49:43.719
not to get too far deep into it, but it

896
00:49:43.840 --> 00:49:45.679
might be a thing. But that might be a thread

897
00:49:45.800 --> 00:49:49.639
for some dog man enthusiasts to uh to check out.

898
00:49:49.679 --> 00:49:52.039
Who knows. I know, I don't really get into the subject,

899
00:49:52.119 --> 00:49:55.719
but if it comes up, it comes up. But cale,

900
00:49:55.840 --> 00:49:57.880
thank you so much for coming on. I want to

901
00:49:57.880 --> 00:50:01.079
make sure that you were able to share all the

902
00:50:01.719 --> 00:50:04.119
things you wanted to share about your experience back ten

903
00:50:04.199 --> 00:50:04.639
years ago.

904
00:50:06.159 --> 00:50:08.480
Yeah, there was something that's kind of small, those small

905
00:50:08.519 --> 00:50:10.840
potatoes at this point now. But after I told my

906
00:50:10.920 --> 00:50:12.559
dad about it. You know, Dad was always kind of

907
00:50:12.599 --> 00:50:15.280
a skeptic. He was one of the first people I told.

908
00:50:16.199 --> 00:50:19.480
He was actually my scout master for Boy Scouts and whatnot.

909
00:50:20.199 --> 00:50:23.199
This I think his he never really believed me until

910
00:50:23.599 --> 00:50:26.280
the summer. I think it was September of twenty I

911
00:50:26.320 --> 00:50:28.000
think it was believe it was twenty eighteen. I was

912
00:50:28.039 --> 00:50:30.159
out of boy Scouts. You know, you age out when

913
00:50:30.159 --> 00:50:33.239
you're eighteen. You can't go anymore. But he went with

914
00:50:33.320 --> 00:50:36.079
a group of boys. Him and the assistant scout master

915
00:50:36.199 --> 00:50:38.079
went with about a group of eight boys. They went

916
00:50:38.159 --> 00:50:42.559
down to Germantown Metro Park, actually Germantown, the whole Twin

917
00:50:42.679 --> 00:50:46.320
Valley area. It's like if you connect all the private

918
00:50:46.360 --> 00:50:49.000
woodlots and the conservation areas, not just the parks, it

919
00:50:49.119 --> 00:50:50.880
comes to like four thousand acre or something like that

920
00:50:51.000 --> 00:50:56.159
in southern Montgomery County. But anyway, they were camping one

921
00:50:56.280 --> 00:50:59.039
night and the boys wanted to go on to night hikes,

922
00:50:59.079 --> 00:51:01.000
so you know that, you know, Dad said, you know whatever,

923
00:51:01.079 --> 00:51:04.320
go on ahead. And the boys were walking around, you know,

924
00:51:04.400 --> 00:51:06.880
and they said, we're gonna look for Bigfoot, you know,

925
00:51:07.000 --> 00:51:09.039
and Dad's like, all right, you know what. I guess

926
00:51:09.079 --> 00:51:11.199
they were watching fighting Bigfoot or whatever at the time.

927
00:51:12.719 --> 00:51:14.960
So the dad, my dad and the other scout master

928
00:51:15.039 --> 00:51:15.639
stayed behind.

929
00:51:15.679 --> 00:51:15.800
You know.

930
00:51:15.880 --> 00:51:18.039
It was just a it was just a circle loop.

931
00:51:18.079 --> 00:51:18.199
You know.

932
00:51:18.239 --> 00:51:20.119
The boys couldn't get lost as long as they stayed

933
00:51:20.159 --> 00:51:23.760
on the trail. But the other scout master said, he said,

934
00:51:23.840 --> 00:51:26.119
I got an idea. He said, let's follow behind him

935
00:51:26.119 --> 00:51:28.519
a few hundred feet, you know, and let's let's try

936
00:51:28.559 --> 00:51:31.280
to prank them, you know. So my dad, you know,

937
00:51:31.320 --> 00:51:34.400
they're walking in and the boys they're you know, they're

938
00:51:34.480 --> 00:51:37.159
hitting you know, they're hitting sticks against the tree. You know,

939
00:51:37.199 --> 00:51:39.800
and then they're they're pausing listening, just like they did

940
00:51:39.840 --> 00:51:42.599
in the show. They're walking a few, you know, another

941
00:51:42.800 --> 00:51:44.760
few hundred yards, and then one of them like whoops

942
00:51:44.840 --> 00:51:48.159
or whatever, and they stop them listen. They do it

943
00:51:48.239 --> 00:51:50.400
one time, and my dad and the scout master wait

944
00:51:50.559 --> 00:51:53.159
a few seconds and my dad hits a tree. You know,

945
00:51:53.199 --> 00:51:55.360
they hit a tree once and I think it was once.

946
00:51:55.440 --> 00:51:58.199
He said, just bump, and you could hear the boys

947
00:51:58.320 --> 00:52:01.400
kind of like they're whispering, but they're excited. And then

948
00:52:01.400 --> 00:52:05.280
they're walking a little bit and uh, they said. The

949
00:52:05.320 --> 00:52:07.960
boys stop and they're about to hit a tree again,

950
00:52:08.840 --> 00:52:11.320
and my dad said him and the assistant scout master

951
00:52:11.519 --> 00:52:14.880
right behind him heard two knocks. It was like punk pump,

952
00:52:16.320 --> 00:52:18.679
and my dad looked at him. He said, he said,

953
00:52:18.719 --> 00:52:20.639
did any of the boys stay behind him? The scout

954
00:52:20.679 --> 00:52:22.639
master said no, he said, I think they're all up there.

955
00:52:24.000 --> 00:52:26.239
So they, you know, my dad and the scout master

956
00:52:26.320 --> 00:52:27.880
they turn around where they're at and they try to

957
00:52:27.920 --> 00:52:29.519
go back to camp see if any of the boys,

958
00:52:29.639 --> 00:52:31.480
you know, were trying to prank them, and they get

959
00:52:31.519 --> 00:52:34.679
back and nobody was there. So they're like that was

960
00:52:34.960 --> 00:52:36.840
you know, that was really weird because in that camping

961
00:52:36.920 --> 00:52:40.000
area there weren't any houses nearby. You know, there shouldn't

962
00:52:40.000 --> 00:52:42.039
be anybody in the park because the park closes the

963
00:52:42.159 --> 00:52:45.559
ten So my dad that kind of made my dad

964
00:52:45.639 --> 00:52:47.599
start wondering, you know. He was like, was that just

965
00:52:47.679 --> 00:52:50.239
a big foot? You know where the was bigfoot following

966
00:52:50.400 --> 00:52:51.119
us and the boys?

967
00:52:51.400 --> 00:52:54.840
Oh my goodness, dude, Wow, that's wild wild.

968
00:52:55.039 --> 00:52:57.079
Yeah, I said, man, I said, I was a year

969
00:52:57.079 --> 00:52:59.159
I think I was nineteen. I was a year out.

970
00:52:59.320 --> 00:53:01.119
Like I said, you age out when you're eighteen. You're

971
00:53:01.119 --> 00:53:03.440
not allowed to be in it anymore. But I was like,

972
00:53:03.519 --> 00:53:05.119
all the times about to happen. It's when you know,

973
00:53:05.199 --> 00:53:06.880
I don't. I went on every camping trip, and it

974
00:53:06.960 --> 00:53:08.320
just happened to be the one I didn't go to.

975
00:53:10.440 --> 00:53:14.159
That That story really makes you, really makes you wonder.

976
00:53:14.599 --> 00:53:18.559
I'm I'm I wouldn't put it out of the question

977
00:53:18.760 --> 00:53:19.039
at all.

978
00:53:19.199 --> 00:53:21.920
But yeah, the boys didn't hear it, he said. The

979
00:53:21.960 --> 00:53:23.480
boys didn't hear Like I said, they were about one

980
00:53:23.559 --> 00:53:25.679
hundred and two hundred yards in front of them, and

981
00:53:25.760 --> 00:53:27.400
if they had to guess, the knock was about one

982
00:53:27.480 --> 00:53:30.280
hundred ish yards behind them on the trail in the

983
00:53:30.440 --> 00:53:33.760
area where they kind of just came. So the boys

984
00:53:33.760 --> 00:53:35.440
didn't even really know it, you know, and they when

985
00:53:35.480 --> 00:53:37.159
they got back to camp. You know, my dad was like,

986
00:53:37.280 --> 00:53:39.480
do you guys hear anything? And they were like, no,

987
00:53:39.599 --> 00:53:41.119
what are you talking about? You know, the boys had

988
00:53:41.159 --> 00:53:44.119
no idea my dad and this the assistants Cupmaster and

989
00:53:44.199 --> 00:53:47.039
even left, so they were even more like my dad

990
00:53:47.159 --> 00:53:49.320
was trying to rationalize it, but I don't think he

991
00:53:49.480 --> 00:53:50.039
to this day.

992
00:53:50.039 --> 00:53:53.960
Can Oh man, Well that's what you get for trying

993
00:53:54.000 --> 00:53:55.159
to prank the kids, I guess.

994
00:53:55.280 --> 00:53:59.400
So, yeah, it was funny.

995
00:53:59.440 --> 00:53:59.599
He was.

996
00:54:00.039 --> 00:54:01.440
He didn't even have a tent that night. He was

997
00:54:01.559 --> 00:54:06.480
just in a hammock and look at me or something.

998
00:54:07.880 --> 00:54:10.800
I don't know if I would ever, you know, going

999
00:54:10.880 --> 00:54:13.440
off of all the accounts I've heard of people in

1000
00:54:13.559 --> 00:54:15.480
hammocks and what can happen, I don't know if I

1001
00:54:15.559 --> 00:54:18.280
would ever be in a hammock in a bigfoot area,

1002
00:54:18.400 --> 00:54:22.199
just because, like, my goodness, you hear some stuff where

1003
00:54:22.199 --> 00:54:26.079
they start messing with you and tap on you pretty large.

1004
00:54:26.239 --> 00:54:29.039
So that fire was really huge. They made that bonfire

1005
00:54:29.199 --> 00:54:29.880
huge that night.

1006
00:54:30.280 --> 00:54:33.880
Oh I don't doubt it. Oh my goodness, Caleb wild stuff,

1007
00:54:34.039 --> 00:54:37.199
Thank you so much for coming on and you know,

1008
00:54:37.400 --> 00:54:40.760
sharing some accounts from the Dayton area. And if anyone

1009
00:54:40.840 --> 00:54:44.159
else out there has heard anything about this area with

1010
00:54:44.559 --> 00:54:47.800
bigfoot activity, feel please feel free to reach out. You

1011
00:54:47.840 --> 00:54:50.280
can email me at Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com.

1012
00:54:50.960 --> 00:54:53.639
But thank you so much for coming on the show today, Caleb.

1013
00:54:53.679 --> 00:54:54.800
It's been a pleasure to have you on.

1014
00:54:55.400 --> 00:54:56.760
Yeh, ain't no problem. Thank you.

1015
00:54:57.440 --> 00:55:00.400
Have you ever heard all the accounts of bigfoot activity

1016
00:55:00.519 --> 00:55:03.679
around Oakridge, Oregon and you think to yourself, Man, I

1017
00:55:03.719 --> 00:55:06.559
would love to get out in those woods and experience

1018
00:55:06.639 --> 00:55:11.079
it for myself. Well, guess what this year you can.

1019
00:55:11.800 --> 00:55:14.719
If this is interesting to you, stay tuned because it's

1020
00:55:14.800 --> 00:55:19.639
pretty cool. Sasquatch Summer Fest is coming up July tenth

1021
00:55:19.840 --> 00:55:22.920
through the eleventh, twenty twenty six. It's going to be

1022
00:55:23.519 --> 00:55:27.599
even better than the previous year's reason number one, I'll

1023
00:55:27.639 --> 00:55:30.239
be one of the speakers. It's gonna be wild. I'll

1024
00:55:30.360 --> 00:55:35.840
probably I'll say this. There may be stuff you haven't

1025
00:55:35.880 --> 00:55:42.039
heard anywhere else, because let's just say sometimes it's well,

1026
00:55:42.239 --> 00:55:44.159
you just got to be there. We'll leave at that.

1027
00:55:44.360 --> 00:55:47.000
More about looking for Bigfoot in the Oakridge Woods. Now

1028
00:55:47.119 --> 00:55:52.199
check this out. You may know Jason Kenzie from his

1029
00:55:52.360 --> 00:55:57.119
documentary series Searching for Sasquatch. Well, this year you can

1030
00:55:57.239 --> 00:56:00.360
not only go to the festival, but you can also

1031
00:56:01.239 --> 00:56:07.960
sign up for a track deep in the wild forest

1032
00:56:08.079 --> 00:56:12.719
outside of Oakridge with Jason Kenzie to the Bigfoot Spots

1033
00:56:13.119 --> 00:56:16.679
to look for Bigfoot. There's only eight spots to sign

1034
00:56:16.760 --> 00:56:20.320
up for this, and yes, this will also be filmed

1035
00:56:20.920 --> 00:56:23.519
for the next chapter in his documentary series, which is

1036
00:56:23.800 --> 00:56:26.719
Searching for Sasquatch. This is a once in a lifetime deal.

1037
00:56:26.960 --> 00:56:29.960
It's just trust it's going to be a wild, wild experience.

1038
00:56:31.639 --> 00:56:35.079
To get a ticket, head on over to Sasquatch Summerfest

1039
00:56:35.119 --> 00:56:39.719
dot com and listeners can use the code b sp

1040
00:56:41.039 --> 00:56:44.480
like Bigfoot Society podcast in order to get a two

1041
00:56:44.599 --> 00:56:47.199
day pass for the price of a one day pass.

1042
00:56:48.000 --> 00:56:52.480
So thanks to Priscilla for giving me that code so

1043
00:56:52.679 --> 00:56:58.719
that you guys can can get a little a little

1044
00:56:58.760 --> 00:57:02.079
help with the costs there. Appreciate that, Priscilla. I hope

1045
00:57:02.119 --> 00:57:05.320
to see you at the booth in Oakridge this year

1046
00:57:06.480 --> 00:57:08.719
we can talk about your encounter. Was able to talk

1047
00:57:08.760 --> 00:57:11.360
to so many people last year and the year before.

1048
00:57:12.320 --> 00:57:15.239
It is an incredible time. You're not going to want

1049
00:57:15.239 --> 00:57:19.480
to miss it, and I'll see you there. Before we

1050
00:57:19.599 --> 00:57:22.000
wrap this episode, I want to say something directly to

1051
00:57:22.119 --> 00:57:25.440
a very specific group of listeners. If you're in the military,

1052
00:57:25.920 --> 00:57:29.159
any branch or forces, and if you've seen something that

1053
00:57:29.320 --> 00:57:32.159
no one can explain, or if you're a National park

1054
00:57:32.239 --> 00:57:35.360
ranger or forestry worker who's been told to stay quiet,

1055
00:57:36.159 --> 00:57:39.280
or if you're a pilot who's seen something strange down

1056
00:57:39.320 --> 00:57:41.840
on the ground, or if you're with the FBI a

1057
00:57:41.960 --> 00:57:45.840
federal agency, or working intelligence and you stumbled upon something

1058
00:57:45.920 --> 00:57:49.519
you're not allowed to talk about. And if you're a firefighter, paramedic,

1059
00:57:49.679 --> 00:57:52.920
or search and rescue responder who's heard screams or found

1060
00:57:53.000 --> 00:57:55.960
tracks that didn't make sense. If you're in the logging

1061
00:57:56.039 --> 00:57:59.800
industry on a remote oil field, or a trucker with

1062
00:58:00.000 --> 00:58:03.760
government contracts and you've had something happen that you've never

1063
00:58:03.880 --> 00:58:07.719
told a soul. And if you're a biologist, a wildlife specialist,

1064
00:58:07.960 --> 00:58:11.280
or a field researcher under contract who has found evidence

1065
00:58:11.440 --> 00:58:15.039
you're not allowed to report. If you're a pastor, a missionary,

1066
00:58:15.239 --> 00:58:18.320
or someone on a spiritual retreat and you saw something

1067
00:58:18.440 --> 00:58:20.800
that shook your faith, or if you work in the

1068
00:58:20.880 --> 00:58:25.400
shadows CIA NSA or anything with clearance. And you've seen

1069
00:58:25.559 --> 00:58:29.119
what the public hasn't, then I want to talk to you,

1070
00:58:30.239 --> 00:58:35.039
even if it's anonymous. You can reach me at Bigfoot

1071
00:58:35.079 --> 00:58:38.280
Society at gmail dot com. The world needs to hear

1072
00:58:38.519 --> 00:58:42.559
what you've been forced to carry alone, and you're not alone.

1073
00:58:43.440 --> 00:58:48.480
You've got the story, We've got the mic see you

1074
00:58:48.559 --> 00:58:51.079
in the woods. Thank you for listening to this episode

1075
00:58:51.119 --> 00:58:54.320
of the Bigfoot Society podcast. Every encounter we share reminds

1076
00:58:54.400 --> 00:58:56.800
us that the world is bigger and stranger than we think,

1077
00:58:57.599 --> 00:59:00.000
and that the truth is often hiding just beyond the true.

1078
00:59:01.000 --> 00:59:03.880
If you enjoyed this episode, please be sure to subscribe

1079
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1080
00:59:06.000 --> 00:59:08.239
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1081
00:59:08.320 --> 00:59:12.199
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1082
00:59:12.199 --> 00:59:15.199
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1083
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1084
00:59:17.480 --> 00:59:21.519
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1085
00:59:22.199 --> 00:59:24.159
And remember, if you or someone you know has had

1086
00:59:24.199 --> 00:59:27.119
a Bigfoot sighting, please I'd love to hear from you,

1087
00:59:27.239 --> 00:59:30.440
so email me at Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com

1088
00:59:30.920 --> 00:59:33.639
and let's start the conversation. If you haven't gotten a

1089
00:59:33.760 --> 00:59:37.000
chance yet, check out our membership community over at www

1090
00:59:37.199 --> 00:59:39.960
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1091
00:59:40.079 --> 00:59:43.679
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1092
00:59:43.800 --> 00:59:47.639
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1093
00:59:48.119 --> 00:59:50.880
connect with other people that are into the Bigfoot subject

1094
00:59:51.000 --> 00:59:53.639
as much as you are. Thanks again for following along

1095
00:59:53.679 --> 00:59:56.639
with the Bigfoot Society until next time. Keep your eyes open,

1096
00:59:57.039 --> 00:59:59.440
trust your gut, and never stop asking what else might

1097
00:59:59.519 --> 01:00:01.119
be out there? And see you in the woods.