My Bigfoot Encounter Happened the Day Before 9/11!

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Welcome to the big Foot Society.
In this episode, I welcome back Tim

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to share more about his Bigfoot encounters
in Washington State around the Lake Cushman.

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If you've experienced something similar have more
information regarding Bigfoot or other cryptids in the

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same areas, please reach out immediately
to me after this episode. If you've

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had an encounter and like to be
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extra episodes every single week. Now
on with the show all Right, big

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for Society, we got the privilege
of talking to Tim from Washington State.

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We had talked to him a little
bit a few episodes ago. He had

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called in on our Bigfoot Encounter live
show that happens every Saturday night at eight

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thirty pm Central Standard Time. It
is fun talking to him for a few

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minutes then. But he had contacted
me after that and he'd said, Hey,

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I've got a lot more interesting things
to share if you're up for it.

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So Tim, I'm excited that we
were able to get this to happen

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and I'm going to go ahead and
give it right over to you, sir.

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Awesome, Thank you, Jeremi.
I love your podcast and I really

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appreciate you having me on. So
a little background, I'm from the Pacific

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Northwest, have lived here all my
life. Have been camping since I was

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two in the Olympic National Park area
Lake Cushman, been backpacking since I was

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twelve. I've known the mountains really
well, and for most of my life

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I've been skeptical and even dismissive of
the the idea of sasquatch being a real

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thing, because maybe because you know
the movies we saw growing up, marrying

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the Henderson's or you know, it's
kind of like it's on the same level

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as Kremlin's or something something silly like
that. And you know the statues.

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We see wooden statues everywhere on the
in the small towns around around the mountains,

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and it's just kind of I kept
it as as a silly story,

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you know, legends, mythology,
and so I started having strange experiences.

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And what's interesting is the first time
I've had an experience of something really that

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sort of knocked that idea off the
table was in two thousand and one,

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and it was actually on and around
September eleventh, two thousand and one,

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a friend and I had decided to
go backpacking deep in the Central Cascade Mountains.

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I'm talking ten miles away from a
dirt road, that's ten miles away

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from a highway, a place called
Necklace Valley and Necklace Valley, I mean

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you can really throw a dart at
the middle of the Cascades, and that's

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where it is. And we left
on September tenth, and didn't have cell

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phones back then, by the way, so we had no contact with the

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outside world. So me and my
friend Jay, we started down this long

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valley it's the Foss River Valley,
and as we're hiking along, we just

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keep getting hit with this putrid,
rotting garbage smell that just suddenly hits and

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was the weirdest thing because we're looking
around. It's beautiful. There's ferns and

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moss and huckleberries and cedars and hemlocks. It's just a gorgeous, typical Northwest

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Mountain forest scene. And it goes
away. It seems to come and go

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quickly. It's like it's like we
enter a cloud of a dumpster stench,

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and it was just so strange to
me that this was happening. And another

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thing I'll point out is is Jay's
six foot four but kind of hunches slouches,

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and he's got really long arms,
and I think at the time he

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might have even had his long hair. And you know, we would joke

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that he looks like a sascotch.
But that's beside the point. Or maybe

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it's not beside the point. Maybe
maybe they were checking him out, wondering

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if he was related to them somehow. But so we hike this seven miles

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of trail along the Foss River,
like I said, and we need a

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break. So we we go down
to the river where there's a pool,

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a nice calm pool and a gravel
bar. We take off our packs and

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we're sitting there and throwing throwing rocks
in the water and we do this thing

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which I still love doing. It's
you throw a log or a stick in

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the in the water, and then
you have a little competition to throw rocks

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at it. See who can hit
the log, make it bounce off,

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skip rocks, stuff like that.
And we end up being there for an

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entire hour throwing rocks into this into
this river because it's just we're getting competitive,

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we're having fun, we're laughing.
And after about an hour, from

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the dense brush across the pool from
us, comes a rock, i'd say

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golf ball size rock, straight out
from like dense salmon berry salal, little

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hemlock trees, a really dense brushy
spot, and we stop. We look

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at each other, We say hello, and there's no answer you expect,

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like it's another hiker or something.
We had not seen any other hikers on

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this day, by the way,
it was a Monday. We had the

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trail to ourselves, so we don't
say word. We just grab our backpacks,

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throw them on, and we book
up the trail. And this is

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the beginning of the stupid climb to
Necklace Valley. And you know, it

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was over twenty years ago. I
don't remember all the conversation, but I

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think I think he might have said, do you think that was a sasquatch?

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You know? And we kind of, oh, I don't know,

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man. My conclusion was, quote
unquote, there's creepy things out in the

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woods. And I didn't think Harry
and Henderson, sasquatch whatever, Patterson Ginley,

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any of that. I just thought
it's it's a creepy thing. Just

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something creepy out there. So we
get to camp and I can't be certain

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that this happened on the same trip, but we heard this owl call that

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was it sounded like an eight hundred
pound man imitating an owl and coming from

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ground level in the dark trees as
we're kind of walking around at night around

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camp. So that was another thing
that just there's creepy things out here,

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and then brushing it off and not
thinking about it. And what is interesting

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about this trip is, like I
said, we didn't have cell phones.

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The next morning was September eleventh,
two thousand and one, and we spent

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the day hiking around the beautiful Blue
Skies, just having a typical backpacking trip.

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We explored Necklace Valley, which is
you know, Opal Lake, Jade

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Lake, Locket Lake. It's named
for its beautiful little multi colored lakes.

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And at night we got back to
camp and we hadn't noticed that there'd been

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no planes in the air all day
and end of the night, but we

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had noticed how quiet and isolated we
felt out there. And it's strange as

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we're sitting around a little fire and
one of the little lakes and Jay said,

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Wow, we're so far out here. Wouldn't it be crazy if there

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was some kind of apocalypse that happened
when we were out here and we didn't

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even know about it, And we
kind of ha ha ha, you know,

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yeah, but we were just in
awe of the stars and quiet,

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and we didn't find out about September
eleventh until September twelfth, hiking on the

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way out heard from a from a
hiker, So you know, it's just

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a it's just an interesting coincidence that
that I remember my first possible encounter being

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you know, everybody that was alive
then kind of remembers where they were,

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what they were doing, and I
didn't know about it, neither did Jay.

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So that's that's a little a little
background on you know, where I

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was coming from at that time,
and and an experience that really shook me

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in a few different ways. There's
a lot of a lot of really interesting

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things in that. It does sound
like its super remote as well. You

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had mentioned huckleberrys, which is kind
of interesting. Oh yeah, they were

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right, but the time, a
lot of huckleberries in that area. Oh,

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tons, tons. I remember coming
back to camp after exploring and and

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Jay was getting annoyed at me because
I kept stopping and grabbing huckleberries and mountain

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blueberries and just eating them like candy. All right, So yeah, that's

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that's definitely a food source for all
kinds of species around that area. Absolutely,

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And I'm guessing if you had,
if you had seen something like you

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would have mentioned it. But no, like interesting things on the ground,

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like large amounts of boughs or or
sticks put together, anything like that that

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you had noticed, you know,
I you know, I didn't. I

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remember seeing things like this, And
just like I said, I was so

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dismissive. I didn't know about this
topic at all, and I was just

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naim, just oh, that's weird. Look there's a teepee thing, but

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that doesn't look that's too big for
someone to make. Did they make it

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out here? Strange that trees are
all in that kind of pattern, you

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know, or big x's or big
yeah, broken all kinds of broken limbs,

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And I just I just overlooked it. And most of my life I've

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overlooked these things but noticed them so
that later on, in the last couple

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of years, I've got a lot
of stories about things I have seen and

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including the footprints, so we get
we'll get to that. I would imagine

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we're probably close to the same age. I'm guessing maybe forties around there.

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Yeah, yeah, so I get
the significance of how it was there were

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no planes in the sky, and
I'm guessing most of the listeners will,

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but I do know we do have
a few that are probably pretty young,

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maybe even born after nine to eleven. And and it was so quiet that

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morning is because you know, when
nine to eleven happened. Afterwards, all

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the planes were grounded and made to
return to airports, which would be why

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he did not notice any planes in
the sky at that time. But just

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it's an interesting, interesting time frame
and not to digress too much, but

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I mean I was I would have
been fifteen or sixteen. I remember exactly

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what I was doing. I was
in the cafeteria. So it's crazy.

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But yeah, wild time for sure, but an interesting first foray for you

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into the kind of the weird world
of you know, what's going on here,

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and definitely continue with what else that
you've experienced over the years. Sure

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later on. I mean I'm skipping
away ahead because like I said, when

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you're so listen, you don't know
what to look for. It's really easy

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to overlook things. So I really
didn't notice much out in my hikes and

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travels and backpacking trips and camping trips
until kind of a shocker in July of

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twenty sixteen a girlfriend at the time, and we drove a dirt road that

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goes way above Lake Cushman and it
borders, like really borders exactly on the

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line of Olympic National Park. And
we decided to camp to camp in this

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beautiful spot. And it's above the
staircase area of Olympic National Park, which

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we've had we've since heard reports come
out of that area. And we're pretty

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high up overlooking the valley where the
Skokomish River and Staircase is located. And

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we found this just beautiful, beautiful
camp spot kind of nestled in some trees

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over looking the valley. There's there's
lush moss, lichens and ferns, and

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it just felt like Heaven. I
mean, it's sometimes there's a place and

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a time on this planet when you
just I made it. I made it

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to Heaven. It doesn't get better
than this. So we kind of wandered

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around. There's only game trails.
We followed some game trails to some really

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giant mossy boulders. There was a
pond nestled in these boulders on the top

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of the cliffs, which is just
a really cool thought. I mean,

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there's here's a water source for animals, here's you know, the watering hole.

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And so we're just having a wonderful
time. We're totally totally solitude.

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There's no people around. One car
passed once it's a weekday again, and

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drove way far from us. So
there was no people, no campers,

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no cars. Early evening, I
start gathering some wood and I go to

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light a fire, and keep in
mind, there's a there's no wind,

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it's a calm summer evening. And
I light the fire and it's kind of

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a big, you know, billowing
smoke comes out. And what happened was

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this second the smoke billowed over the
edge into the valley, a big tree

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of gose just obviously being pushed over. The second the smoke travels over the

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edge of and I mean, I've
never been so startled by something in the

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forest. And immediately through my head, I'm like, okay, there's no

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people out here, Okay, okay, what intelligence did that because that was

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a that was an intelligence that pushed
that treeover. It was an intention It

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was an intentional act. It wasn't
a coincidence because again no end. And

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the second the smoke went over the
edge, that big tree crashed down,

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and I kind of ran over looked
around nothing there. Again, I didn't

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know what to look for. Just
this phenomenon happened, and you know,

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I started talking to my girlfriend like, what is what is that is that?

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Could that be like a sasquatch?
My brother would probably think that's a

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sasquatch And she goes into, yeah, I have friends that say that it's

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an interdimensional being, and I'm like, what what? Back up a second.

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I just I'd never heard of any
of this this stuff, and especially

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not the the interdimensional or you know, the kind of supernatural aspects. So

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I just it just was shocking.
We talked about it. We decided,

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you know what we are sort of
we're here in peace, we're peaceful people.

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We don't bring any any ill intension
with us. Let's stay, let's

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cook our food, let's stay around
the fire. And we did. We

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didn't book it out of there,
and nothing else happened that I was aware

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of that whole time. We just
had a wonderful, wonderful time there.

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So about a year later, my
mom blessed her heart bought the family a

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small off grid camping property near Lake
Cushman and dal Creek, which is a

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location now I know is mentioned in
bfro to Asquatch Chronicles, a Flash of

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Duty. Theodore Roosevelt used to stay
at a lodge at Lake Cushman, and

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you know about his connection. If
you don't, he's he's got some stories

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connected to sasquatch which are fascinating.
So yeah, so we got this property

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that we use for camping, and
it's it's just it's a patch of dirt

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with trees and and it borders this
very wild forested ravine that's a green belt,

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that's an unbroken chain of wilderness that
goes all the way up into Olympic

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National Park. So animals can travel
straight through the whole park right into our

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property if they want to, which
we've seen bobcats multiple times, multiple times,

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my brother saw cougars. There's there's
bear scat, there's we hear coyotes

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all the time. There's just wild
things. Deer come right up into the

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lot and raccoons, and it's just
a beautiful little magical place that we that

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we share. And again, I
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sasquatch until fairly recently. And I
had this funny little story about we have

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a little dog, or my mom
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And what's funny is he's like a
little white dog that kind of stands

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up on two feet a lot,
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time we're camping with the whole family
there it's my mom's birthday, and Mom

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and Yetti are sitting in the hammock. And the hammock is right on the

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edge of the woods. It's right
where the dark forested ravine. We hear

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animals a lot, it's right there, and my mom we're all kind of

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chatting around the fire and my mom
says, you guys, something just crawled

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from the trees. And Yetti growled
back, and she told me it wasn't

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any kind of growl she's ever heard. It had a really low register that

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didn't sound like a bear accouter or
any animal. And this isn't a point

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where we are still laughing about this
stuff and joking about it, and so

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everyone brushed it off. And then
and then's some interesting things started happening.

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We started hearing howls and even these
these deep, faraway roaring sounds, and

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they're long, deep roars that sound
like, you know, a cross between

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an elephant and a lion, and
it's weird just to be, you know,

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sitting around camp. And then suddenly
you hear this roar way off.

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And every time it happens, there's
these dogs. People have dogs, and

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the dogs go berserque. They just
lose their marbles and the roars are kind

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of followed by strange howls. We've
heard this siren howl, which my girlfriend

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thought was a siren starting up,
and you can look that up. I'm

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not going to try to repeat what
it sounds like, but the sirenhow is

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really alarming because there's not an animal
that does that. So so a couple

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of years later, you know,
we're just enjoying the place. Twenty twenty

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two, my lady and I we
go hiking that staircase, which you know,

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it's not far from where we're camping. We go there all the time,

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from our property to staircase, and
it's an ancient forest along the Snowcalmish

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River Valley. The trees are as
big as houses, literally, just humongous

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ancient cedars, ancient hemlocks, spruce
for gorgeous, gorgeous valley. And it's

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a beautiful day. We're doing a
little hike along and we want to look

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for a little picnic spot. So
I start kind of going off trail,

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and I don't recommend doing this at
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So we wander up a little game
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and we come to this just beautiful
little glen and it's got grass growing and

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little little trees, and it's surrounded
by fallen trees. And we lay had

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a picnic blanket, and it's a
hot day and we lay down and we

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take our clothes off, and we're
just feeling totally wild, sort of connected

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to the environment and at the same
time so vulnerable. And that's one another

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crash breaks the silence, this big
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And if you've ever been in a
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you hear a big crash, it
was very, very startling. I've never

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and that startled. I jumped up, I jump on a log and I

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look and from the direction and no, there's nothing. There's nothing. Now

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I can assume from what I've learned
that this is common behavior with sasquatch.

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And what I'm assuming to do is
they get down on their bellies a lot.

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I think they're on all fours a
lot more than we think. I

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think that they're down behind ferns and
salaal. And it's I think that's a

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common behavior because I didn't see anything, and it happened thirty yards away,

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and I would have seen something,
you know, running off, if it

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was an elk or whatever it was. But we start gathering our things,

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getting our clothes back on, and
we look around and we're like, look

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at this little place where in this
little nook has animal signs everywhere. Every

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tree has scratches and rubs on it. We're seeing scat from deer, elk,

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coyote, bear, cougar, I
mean, everything that can scat.

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Scat's there. And we were like, this is this is their living room.

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This is where the animals live,
and who knows what had just been

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in there and what had made that
noise? Was asking us to kindly exit,

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which we did, and we left
a few apples and salmon kind of

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as a as an offering or a
or a thank you. So there was

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that experience and then the other the
other experiences I have actually at the property

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itself. But yeah, if you
have any questions about the Olympic National Park

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opening to that man, I cannot
imagine being in that situation. Wow,

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yeah, that could have gotten that
could have gotten away. Wateus was So

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if you had to, if you
had to estimate how big of a tree

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got pushed over, what would you
What would you say, Let's say fourteen

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inches around, probably one of the
one of the snags, one of the

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standing dead trees that are common around
there. It was loud and it had

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fallen. It sounded like it had
fallen in the direction of downhill, and

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so it made a really big crash. You know, there's more gravity,

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more momentum, But you weren't able
to see the act like you probably weren't

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able to see if it was pushed
towards you guys or away from you guys.

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It sounds like you just you just
heard it get pushed, right,

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Yeah. Yeah, it's a pretty
steep, steep landscape and dense, and

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you know, I got the message
and I didn't go snoop around I The

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message both of those times was very
clear, you know, be aware,

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would be very aware. Oh,
I agree. I mean I have experienced

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that once in Iowa, and I
was very new. It was my first

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time out, and it's like,
I freaked out. I thought, I

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was like, why are there fireworks
being set off? I mean, it's

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just it's that loud. And I'm
guessing yours was a way bigger tree too.

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Yeah, it was, well,
it was a big tree. It

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was an experience, a very shocking
experience. How did your girlfriend react to

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the tree being pushed over? Well, kind of, It's strange. Both

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times we're kind of like, well, we come in peace, We're going

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to quietly go in peace. Not
a lot of story around it. At

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the time. I hadn't yet looked
into this really, but these experiences were

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the thing that that set me to
look into the phenomenon and really dive deep

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and and you know, start start, you know, cutting away at some

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of the skepticism that I have.
So, yeah, absolutely, What other

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sounds did you hear in the part
of the forest you were in? Yeah,

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wood knocks, and Okay, it's
just I mean, it was just

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something I thought, Oh, that's
just the sound that the woods makes,

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you know. I really just a
baseball bat against a tree at the time.

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I just thought, oh, that's
just some things in the woods.

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Naive, naive me, just so, yeah, there's stuff out here.

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So you were hearing wood knocks when
you were in that glen far away?

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Okay, wow? And then little
pops too, you know, little little

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pops, yeah, which we we
heard at the at the property journey with

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this next round, do you remember
the knox that you would hear? Was

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there a pattern to them? Were
there are multiples, single anything weird like

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that? No? One one and
then a pause and then minutes later another

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so very interesting. Probably a very
good idea to leave the apple and the

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salmon as a gift as well.
Yeah, we felt it. We felt

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it strongly. I mean, there
there was a there was a presence that

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you know, if I was more
of a supernatural minded person, I would

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say that there were spirits in this
little glen. But I don't know if

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we've just kind of felt the energy
left over of the animals that just left

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because it was it's a perfect little
spot for them to eat the grass and

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do their rubbings of their antlers and
all of that, and and it's heavy.

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It was a heavy, dense,
energetic feeling that we had, and

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so it was just like, let's
back out, let's leave an offering end

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up being just really a magical experience. We felt like we we stepped into

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another realm, another reality that that
was palpable, helpably different than do do

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going down the trail. Right,
Yeah, that's that's interesting. Man.

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I don't know how I would have
handled that one, but it sounds like

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you handled it, okay, So
yeah, let's let's continue. It sounds

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like you've you're about to share about
some things that were happening on the actual

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property. Yeah, this this brings
it on home. So I had over

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the last year year and a half, I've been having a lot of conversations

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with my brother, who's who's been
a lot more open minded about the phenomenon

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of sasquatch, and he's literally changed
my mind because you know, I'm sorry

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to my brother for being so dismiss
it for so long, because once I

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started studying and looking into it myself, I'm like, oh my god,

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this this makes sense, it's not
don't. Not only does it make sense

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and also kind of doesn't make sense, which blows my mind. But I've

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been around they've been around me,
and I've overlooked a lot of things.

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So so the next the next big
event actually happened last fourth of July,

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and we wanted to get out of
town. Me and my lady wanted to

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get out of town for Fourth of
July. So it's just like, well,

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let's go the property, let's camp. We don't need fireworks. Fireworks

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are banned in the area. We
don't need, you know, rowdy neighbors.

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Let's just go and camp and be
in the quiet. And it was

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one of the best decisions we could
have made because as as dusk is falling,

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we've got the beautiful fire go where
we're cooking oysters over the fire.

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We're drinking amouretto. We're listening to
like soul music, which I highly recommend

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camping, like Stevie Wonder and Marvin
Day and Bill Withers, and we're singing

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along and kind of just dancing and
off in the distance about six miles we're

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in the foothills of the of the
Olympics, but about six miles away its

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Hood Canal and on the Puget Sound, and in Hood Canal on the fourth

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of July, they did not one, but two big fireworks shows. So

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although we're in an area where there's
no fireworks, there's two big shows going

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off about six miles downhill. So
we start hearing occasionally pause the music,

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and we start hearing all kinds of
wildlife all around us in every direction.

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And I think we're the only ones
camping in this vicinity, but we're hearing

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wildlife. We're hearing coyotes and coyotes
yipping and like they'd just gotten a kill,

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you know, and they yip yip
yip and howl, and we hearing

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the owls. Then we start hearing
other large things down in the ravine behind

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us. I know that I heard
several wood knocks, twigs breaking, popping,

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noises, crunch crunch, crunch,
footsteps just happening all over, and

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then the howls. The howls as
well. And I'll get to this one

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really bizarre sing song melodic howl that
we heard. I tried to record it

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and I couldn't get to it in
time. But at one point, we're

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just having a good time. Like
I said, We're just intrigued. We're

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like kids, just excited about the
woods and how lie that is. I

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mean, it was just it was
a revelation. Because you go camping,

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you know, you go to a
spot and you don't get surrounded by animals.

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They typically flee an area. But
we're getting surrounded. And at one

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point, I'm just in the right
kind of mood. I'm cracking open oysters

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and I'm standing next to the fire
and they pine cone comes flying from horizontally

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and hits me in the back,
and I went, oh, okay,

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I guess this is happening now Again, pine cones don't fly at you horizontally.

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If they fall out of a tree, they come straight down or maybe

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at an angle down. But this
came actually from from the dense brush that's

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a little bit sloped down from our
camp. And I look down another one

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is right at my feet like it
had just been tossed. And these are

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little fur cones, they're not actually
pine pine cones. But at that point

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I just kind of went, okay, mm hmm, this is what's happening.

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We are obviously the entertainment of this
area, because we got again the

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oysters cooking you know, we're laughing, we're having a good time, we're

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singing along for this music. And
so my thought is, you know,

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this fireworks show, it pushed elk, deer, rabbits, everything, everything

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that's an animal get scared of these
fireworks. So they're coming up up the

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foothills and into our little valley,
our little creek valley, which is you

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know, near Dow Creek, and
just an awesome experience. And in my

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head, you know, I'm just
tipsy enough to go, yeah, cool,

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there's like little juvenile sasquatch are finding
us entertaining, entertaining while they're you

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know, hunting all the raccoons and
whatever else they're feasting on tonight. So

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it was it was a cool experience. I really wasn't scared because the lady

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I'm with is so so cool.
We just we just don't we haven't been

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actually frightened by by this presence.
We figure, you know, we're doing

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something that's enjoyable to see and smell
and hopefully not taste. But that night,

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you know, I I hear this
weird, this weird sing song how

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from about again about one hundred feet
from camp in the woods, and I'm

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going to try to remember how it
went, but it was like a song.

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It was like and I don't know
what animal doest had. It was

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a little bit longer and longer and
drawn out than that, but I'm like,

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welcome, what was that? And
I hit pause on the music and

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I wait, and a couple seconds
later and it's closer. It's closer.

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It's about fifty yards or fifty feet
or you know, it feels like it's

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closer than the first sing song howl. So that was just incredible. If

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anybody knows what animal that could be, I'm not going to say, hey,

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that was a sasquatch, but you
know, it makes sense that it

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would be the same thing that through
a pine cone at tim. So So

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that was that was the experience last
year that has sort of continued every time

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we go out there to go camping. It's it's it's it's these strange noises

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we hear. And because again I
was kind of, you know, still

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skeptical studying the subject, but like, I don't want to jump to conclusions

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because that's not science to jump to
conclusions. But it's not scientific to ignore

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data either and not to and to
not you know, examine data. So

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the next morning after the fourth of
July, it July fifth, we're cooking

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breakfasts and we hear this rar and
we look at each other and the rar

404
00:36:32.280 --> 00:36:37.880
is. It sounds like me about
half a mile away, but it's so

405
00:36:37.119 --> 00:36:42.639
loud that it's echoing in the valley. And this is up Dow Creek.

406
00:36:42.880 --> 00:36:47.159
Again, people can look into Dow
Creek. It's it's multiple accounts of it.

407
00:36:47.840 --> 00:36:55.280
But the RAR was amazing. Again, we're not totally conclusive about what

408
00:36:55.440 --> 00:37:00.719
it is, but things are starting
to stack up and make sense. We

409
00:37:00.119 --> 00:37:06.079
did a little track up Dow Creek
well down it actually following game trails,

410
00:37:06.360 --> 00:37:10.920
just just for fun and to just
enjoy the experience of exploring. And this

411
00:37:12.079 --> 00:37:19.599
is the next morning after wild fourth
of July, and we see fresh piles

412
00:37:19.639 --> 00:37:22.079
of bear scat, I mean the
black the piles, you know what it

413
00:37:22.159 --> 00:37:25.800
looks like. We're seeing elk and
deer, the little you know, cocoa

414
00:37:25.840 --> 00:37:30.559
puffs or whatever. And then we
come across what I didn't know at the

415
00:37:30.639 --> 00:37:37.480
time, but now I know.
It's the description of sasquatch do do and

416
00:37:37.239 --> 00:37:47.320
it has kind of the consistency of
a human scat, but it's the thickness

417
00:37:47.400 --> 00:37:55.039
of a coke can. I went, what what left that? And it's

418
00:37:55.239 --> 00:38:00.679
clearly not not a bear because we've
seen the bear recently, and it's it's

419
00:38:00.800 --> 00:38:04.159
black, it's full of seeds,
it's they've eaten a lot of berries and

420
00:38:04.920 --> 00:38:07.480
and it's it's just like a black
mount and this is this is a coke

421
00:38:07.559 --> 00:38:15.239
can. And I I'm actually able
to poke a stick into it and picked

422
00:38:15.239 --> 00:38:19.880
it up and it was that firm
it was staying on the stick. Sorry

423
00:38:19.880 --> 00:38:24.320
if this is like a you know, not not table manner description of this

424
00:38:24.440 --> 00:38:30.039
stuff, but but I'm I'm just
I'm not looking at the at the science

425
00:38:30.119 --> 00:38:34.559
of it, and it's it's really
interesting that same track trek into that that

426
00:38:34.679 --> 00:38:38.559
little valley, the little Dow Creek
area. We well, first she heard

427
00:38:39.039 --> 00:38:46.519
a crash and then a splash,
and then I looked over and going up

428
00:38:46.599 --> 00:38:59.519
this log was a small, uh
brownish gray m hm, quadruped animal which

429
00:38:59.760 --> 00:39:01.719
I'm just gonna assume was a bobcat. And it was really cool experience.

430
00:39:01.800 --> 00:39:07.880
It wasn't you know, it wasn't
like like a sasquatch per se, but

431
00:39:07.039 --> 00:39:10.400
but a bobcat's a pretty cool thing
to see when you're in the middle of

432
00:39:10.440 --> 00:39:14.920
the woods and you know, not
far from from where you're camping, So

433
00:39:15.960 --> 00:39:23.159
so that kind of that kind of
leads to what happened last month. But

434
00:39:23.440 --> 00:39:25.960
if you have any questions about it, I do have a few, a

435
00:39:27.079 --> 00:39:30.039
few questions about fourth of July.
Definitely, what were you guys cooking for

436
00:39:30.159 --> 00:39:35.360
breakfast on the fifth? Do you
remember, let's see, kind of greens

437
00:39:35.920 --> 00:39:39.320
and eggs and probably some black beans
kind of a maybe maybe it could have

438
00:39:39.360 --> 00:39:43.880
been one of my famous my famous
case ideas as well. Okay, cool,

439
00:39:44.280 --> 00:39:47.639
cool, cool. You mentioned that
you you'd picked up the scat.

440
00:39:47.920 --> 00:39:55.119
Did you notice anything out of the
ordinary about Sometimes, you know, their

441
00:39:55.199 --> 00:40:00.280
animal scat, you can see different
things that will lead you believe they had

442
00:40:00.559 --> 00:40:06.440
eaten this or eaten that. Did
you notice anything details like that when you

443
00:40:06.639 --> 00:40:12.400
Yeah, yeah, bones and hair, bones and hair, hair. Okay,

444
00:40:13.039 --> 00:40:16.320
yeah, it looked like ours,
but with bones and hair in it.

445
00:40:16.639 --> 00:40:21.880
And probably I didn't dissect it,
you know, I wasn't in that

446
00:40:22.159 --> 00:40:25.000
kind of mood. It might have
been seeds in it as well, but

447
00:40:25.599 --> 00:40:30.880
yeah, bones and hair and thick
as a coke can, like I said,

448
00:40:30.000 --> 00:40:35.639
or a soup can, which is
odd. I know you said you

449
00:40:35.719 --> 00:40:39.599
didn't dissect it. But could you
notice anything about the bones or just you

450
00:40:40.119 --> 00:40:44.599
you could notice, Hey, it
looks like maybe I see a little bit

451
00:40:44.679 --> 00:40:49.679
of something that looks like a bone
in there, just crunched up, crunched

452
00:40:49.760 --> 00:40:53.239
up bones, small bones. You
know. If I was to jump to

453
00:40:53.320 --> 00:40:58.239
conclusions, I'd say it was,
you know, something to eat in a

454
00:40:58.320 --> 00:41:05.920
raccoon or at a small mammal.
Yeah. Wow, that's that's a new

455
00:41:05.960 --> 00:41:10.199
one for me. That's that is
wild. But I mean it makes sense

456
00:41:10.360 --> 00:41:16.239
for sure that Yeah, I just
think you're the first person I've talked to

457
00:41:16.360 --> 00:41:22.360
that's actually been able to you know, pick pick, just pick it up

458
00:41:22.400 --> 00:41:29.079
and check it out. So that's
off to you. Was I mean,

459
00:41:29.119 --> 00:41:35.480
we're already there, so we'll just
keep going. Was there a interesting smell

460
00:41:35.719 --> 00:41:38.159
to it at all? I didn't. I didn't examine it that far.

461
00:41:39.559 --> 00:41:45.159
The forest was just so fragrant at
that time, because you know, it's

462
00:41:45.280 --> 00:41:49.480
July, it's it's a warm day, and this is a dense kind of

463
00:41:49.559 --> 00:41:53.920
rainforest creek valley, and so the
fragrances of the soil and the moss and

464
00:41:53.960 --> 00:41:58.840
everything was just kind of wafting up
into the air. It's really a lovely

465
00:41:59.199 --> 00:42:02.440
lovely place. Gotcha, so you
you said, and you kind of alluded

466
00:42:02.440 --> 00:42:07.920
to it. So every time you
guys go to this this property you have,

467
00:42:07.519 --> 00:42:14.599
you're experiencing these weird sounds or something
similar. It sounds like, yeah,

468
00:42:14.760 --> 00:42:17.400
definitely, And and what's what's what's
interesting is, you know, not

469
00:42:17.559 --> 00:42:22.800
everything sets off the dogs, but
there's these dogs that when they hear these

470
00:42:23.000 --> 00:42:30.360
these howls, they just go berserk, like uncontrollable barking, reactive, not

471
00:42:31.000 --> 00:42:36.199
not just like territorial dogs, but
dogs that are that are flipping out.

472
00:42:36.800 --> 00:42:45.719
So you know, that's that's pretty
pretty noticeable thing there the the melodic you'd

473
00:42:45.840 --> 00:42:53.480
said, a melodic howl, I
have. I have heard reference to something

474
00:42:53.639 --> 00:42:59.519
similar to like like that, and
like two other reports, and they've been

475
00:42:59.760 --> 00:43:07.199
from the Pacific Northwest. I think
one was more by let's say, east

476
00:43:07.360 --> 00:43:12.880
of Portland that area, and I
guess the other one might might have been

477
00:43:13.000 --> 00:43:17.480
even more by Mount Rainier, So
you're not not the first one that that

478
00:43:17.679 --> 00:43:24.800
kind of has described it like that. It's it's very interesting. Yeah,

479
00:43:24.920 --> 00:43:29.800
and we're the only ones playing music
in that area. I kind of wonder

480
00:43:29.880 --> 00:43:34.400
if they were kind of this is
jump into a conclusion, but I wonder

481
00:43:34.400 --> 00:43:38.800
if they're reacting to music like they're
hearing they're hearing a song, they're hearing

482
00:43:38.880 --> 00:43:42.400
Marvin Gay, you know. And
then it's like, well, I want

483
00:43:42.440 --> 00:43:45.079
to I want to sing too,
I want to try to make that sound

484
00:43:46.119 --> 00:43:51.519
mimic that you know that music well
exactly. And you know, there have

485
00:43:51.760 --> 00:43:58.320
been people that have reported other sounds
in the woods that should not be there

486
00:43:58.559 --> 00:44:01.320
that kind of lead to perhas Phapster's
other mimicry going on. For example,

487
00:44:01.639 --> 00:44:06.280
they say, hey, I hear
a zipper being unzipped, Well, there's

488
00:44:06.320 --> 00:44:10.599
no zippers around here. Or hear
a metallic car door being slammed. There's

489
00:44:10.719 --> 00:44:15.800
no car doors or cars where I'm
at out here in the woods. That

490
00:44:15.920 --> 00:44:20.199
doesn't make sense. So I don't
think it's out of the question to maybe

491
00:44:20.280 --> 00:44:23.880
go down that trail of thought that
you were thinking, But it's it's interesting

492
00:44:24.199 --> 00:44:29.199
to think about. For sure.
Something I might recommend if you're up for

493
00:44:29.320 --> 00:44:34.960
it, is you know you can
you can pick up a a audio recorder

494
00:44:35.199 --> 00:44:38.800
for not that much maybe, like
I mean, you could probably get one

495
00:44:38.960 --> 00:44:45.639
for around like seventy eighty probably even
less. But what the Olympic Project recommends

496
00:44:45.719 --> 00:44:52.039
to do is to have that sound
recorder going with you even as you are

497
00:44:52.119 --> 00:44:54.719
getting out of your car at the
property, because a lot of times what

498
00:44:54.880 --> 00:45:00.400
they will do is they will catch
these almost alert, not when they get

499
00:45:00.440 --> 00:45:05.000
to their property, like the Sasquatch, you're telling the other ones, okay,

500
00:45:05.079 --> 00:45:08.199
they're here now, And a lot
of the sounds they get sometimes are

501
00:45:08.320 --> 00:45:13.280
when they actually just drive and you
know, they catch them as they're leaving

502
00:45:13.320 --> 00:45:17.840
their cars. So that might be
something interesting to look into if you're game

503
00:45:17.920 --> 00:45:22.639
for it. So for sure,
Yeah, I'll see if my brother's into

504
00:45:22.679 --> 00:45:27.320
that too, because he's he's the
one that's been studying this a lot longer

505
00:45:27.400 --> 00:45:30.639
than me anyway. Yeah, yeah, it could be could be really cool,

506
00:45:31.239 --> 00:45:36.880
And I would definitely send you audio
samples if we find anything, get

507
00:45:36.920 --> 00:45:43.199
to record anything. Absolutely, and
and so even even after all this,

508
00:45:43.480 --> 00:45:50.000
you are still having other things that
are going on. Correct, Yes,

509
00:45:50.519 --> 00:45:55.480
the confirmation that we got last month, would you like me to go in

510
00:45:55.519 --> 00:46:01.199
about it asolutely? Yeah? Absolutely, Okay, So I can't remember which

511
00:46:01.239 --> 00:46:05.920
day it was, but it was
it was a weekday last month, and

512
00:46:06.840 --> 00:46:09.280
again just hey, we got an
opportunity to go go up for a couple

513
00:46:09.440 --> 00:46:15.400
nights in camp and there's just me
and my lady, and we did the

514
00:46:15.480 --> 00:46:19.280
typical thing. Packed everything, brought, brought a bunch of good firewood,

515
00:46:19.880 --> 00:46:22.760
unloaded the firewood. Oh wait,
wait, back up a second. Didn't

516
00:46:22.880 --> 00:46:28.239
know there'd be four to five inches
of snow on the ground at the property

517
00:46:29.360 --> 00:46:32.920
and all the forest around us.
Basically the roads were clear, but we

518
00:46:34.039 --> 00:46:38.119
had inches of snow all over anywhere
that's not a road. And that was

519
00:46:38.199 --> 00:46:43.920
a fun surprise because we hadn't been
there before and seen what it even looks

520
00:46:44.039 --> 00:46:46.320
like with the snow on the ground. We got an outdoor kitchen and a

521
00:46:46.360 --> 00:46:52.280
little outdoor wash station in the fire
pit and the hammock and everything just was

522
00:46:52.119 --> 00:46:59.800
covered in snow and it was really
special and unique. And we unload,

523
00:47:00.000 --> 00:47:04.519
we have a snack, We kind
of get situated, and I thought,

524
00:47:04.679 --> 00:47:07.800
you know what, let's let's go
down in the ravine and see what's been

525
00:47:07.960 --> 00:47:14.480
walking around down there. So I
know we're going to find something because there's

526
00:47:14.559 --> 00:47:20.880
game trails down there. And I'll
note very firstly that we didn't see any

527
00:47:21.440 --> 00:47:27.039
human tracks, any boot tracks,
any you know, bicycle tires, anything

528
00:47:27.199 --> 00:47:31.320
human. We didn't see evidence of
that had been down in this valley since

529
00:47:31.360 --> 00:47:37.960
it snowed. So we we go
down this steep incline and we get to

530
00:47:37.280 --> 00:47:44.599
the first game trail and there's tracks. There are tracks of everything, and

531
00:47:44.679 --> 00:47:49.519
they're dense. They're dense tracks.
We immediately see the deer, because the

532
00:47:49.599 --> 00:47:52.159
deer had even been around us,
you know. Later on that day,

533
00:47:52.920 --> 00:47:57.159
we're seeing bear prints, which you
know, I kind of know how to

534
00:47:58.519 --> 00:48:02.480
how to measure that with my hands. Bobcat, possible, Bobcat again.

535
00:48:02.760 --> 00:48:07.239
They look like cat prints, but
a little bigger. And then we start

536
00:48:07.320 --> 00:48:14.239
seeing these other prints that look like
human fists, like big human fists.

537
00:48:15.480 --> 00:48:20.800
And I'm like, okay, let's
let's follow these fur ways. And we

538
00:48:20.920 --> 00:48:28.880
follow them and it looks like something
human like that's on all fours and maybe

539
00:48:30.039 --> 00:48:34.599
jogging through the snow. And we
go in little ways and we go off.

540
00:48:34.920 --> 00:48:38.480
It starts going off into some some
denser brush, some devil's club which

541
00:48:38.559 --> 00:48:44.679
don't ever touch this stuff. It's
really painful and you know, old ferns

542
00:48:44.760 --> 00:48:49.760
and it's just a it's a it's
a like a rainforest environment, but imagine

543
00:48:49.760 --> 00:48:59.760
it covered in snow. And we
finally get to a big footprint, literally

544
00:49:00.079 --> 00:49:05.199
a big footprint, and it's shaped
like a human foot, but it is

545
00:49:05.280 --> 00:49:12.119
about fifteen inches long, and I
go, oh, look at this,

546
00:49:12.239 --> 00:49:15.800
Look at this, Look at this, and I bring her over and we're

547
00:49:15.840 --> 00:49:17.719
looking at it, and I go, this can only be one thing,

548
00:49:20.400 --> 00:49:25.599
and I look a little closer,
and inside this big fifteen inch print is

549
00:49:25.679 --> 00:49:34.960
about a nine inch smaller footprint,
and it's clearly human, like the way

550
00:49:35.039 --> 00:49:38.320
that there's a big toe, and
then it descends to the smaller toes,

551
00:49:38.480 --> 00:49:42.199
you know, at an angle,
and then you've got the ball of the

552
00:49:42.320 --> 00:49:49.199
foot, and then you've got the
heel is a perfectly round, symmetrical heel,

553
00:49:50.559 --> 00:49:57.119
and in between the ball and the
heel is this hourglass shape where now

554
00:49:57.199 --> 00:50:01.199
I know it's it's the called the
mid tarsal break, and it's a joint,

555
00:50:01.599 --> 00:50:05.440
I guess that's the best way to
describe it. Is a joint mid

556
00:50:05.559 --> 00:50:09.719
foot. So the foot is sort
of like ours, but also sort of

557
00:50:09.760 --> 00:50:15.400
like an orangutane. It's got that
joint for you know, Orangutans use it

558
00:50:15.480 --> 00:50:21.639
for transportation, climbing, whatever.
And I'm like, the more I'm looking

559
00:50:21.719 --> 00:50:27.880
at, the more it's getting clear
to me, like this is definitely a

560
00:50:27.960 --> 00:50:34.159
sasquatch. Two sasquatch tracks, and
I'm calling it the Mother and Child Prince

561
00:50:34.519 --> 00:50:39.920
because it's it's just so cute too
not cute, but it's it looks like

562
00:50:40.039 --> 00:50:46.480
a story is being told where the
child is stepping into the mom's footprints.

563
00:50:47.360 --> 00:50:54.000
There's just something really amazing. I
can't put to words about finding this and

564
00:50:54.199 --> 00:51:00.639
knowing that, yes, what we've
been hearing, what we've been it's experiencing

565
00:51:01.159 --> 00:51:07.960
is real, and it's there.
It's not always there, but maybe it

566
00:51:07.119 --> 00:51:12.480
migrates, maybe they migrate through there. So that was confirmation for me.

567
00:51:13.000 --> 00:51:16.599
And the real confirmation was not just
seeing it, not just photographing it,

568
00:51:17.199 --> 00:51:23.239
but put in my hand, touching
the print, feeling the contours of it,

569
00:51:24.440 --> 00:51:29.039
and knowing that that's not there's no
way that's a bear, there's no

570
00:51:29.199 --> 00:51:37.320
way that's any other mammal, and
there's no way it's a human because there's

571
00:51:37.400 --> 00:51:44.679
no bootprints anywhere around. The people
around there are you know, there's a

572
00:51:44.719 --> 00:51:47.599
few homes nearby, and you know
they they're not out in the woods.

573
00:51:49.880 --> 00:51:52.760
A lot of couple of retired people
probably you know, just kind of live

574
00:51:52.800 --> 00:51:59.159
a quiet life in their home and
they don't go out into these forested ravines.

575
00:51:59.480 --> 00:52:01.880
I don't think people typically do around
there, but we did, and

576
00:52:02.719 --> 00:52:09.320
we found that evidence and there's no
not a shred of doubt in my mind

577
00:52:09.760 --> 00:52:16.239
about what that it was what it
was, and getting that confirmation helped me

578
00:52:16.920 --> 00:52:22.920
to backtrack to previous experiences and go, Okay, yeah, that's what that

579
00:52:22.159 --> 00:52:27.239
was, that's what that was,
that's what that was. And of course

580
00:52:27.320 --> 00:52:30.519
i'm you know, I keep an
edge of skepticism because that's healthy and that's

581
00:52:30.559 --> 00:52:37.639
scientific. But they're real. I
don't have a doubt that there's something real

582
00:52:38.519 --> 00:52:44.320
that can leave a footprint, leave
multiple footprints like that, and and so

583
00:52:45.280 --> 00:52:49.960
that's where I'm at now. I'll
add this what's really exciting about it.

584
00:52:50.119 --> 00:52:52.960
What was so exciting at the moment
to me was it was one week later

585
00:52:54.119 --> 00:53:00.760
after hearing a first hand account from
from a friend of my my girlfriend,

586
00:53:00.760 --> 00:53:07.159
and we went over to this lady's
house and I'll call this couple just to

587
00:53:07.360 --> 00:53:09.880
kind of keep their identity, you
know, on the down low, and

588
00:53:10.599 --> 00:53:15.480
their account, if I can go
into that, was that she told me

589
00:53:16.679 --> 00:53:22.880
they were up above Rosalind, Washington
and going down a dirt road in the

590
00:53:22.960 --> 00:53:28.840
middle of nowhere near the Salmon the
Sack area, which I've camped in many

591
00:53:28.960 --> 00:53:36.159
times. And there's three people in
the car and they all three looked over

592
00:53:36.239 --> 00:53:46.320
into the woodline and saw a ratty
mangy, nine foot tall humanoid thing with

593
00:53:46.599 --> 00:53:52.239
giant arms swinging. I mean she
described it, and this woman is just

594
00:53:52.519 --> 00:53:59.320
like you would she would never they
would never make this up. So that

595
00:53:59.480 --> 00:54:01.480
was a week a week before we
found the prince. So it was a

596
00:54:01.599 --> 00:54:10.039
really potent and interesting experience to have
confirmation for myself after, you know,

597
00:54:10.719 --> 00:54:15.840
after talking to a witness and their
story is interesting. They all three saw

598
00:54:15.920 --> 00:54:22.639
it. All three were shocked,
and they didn't talk for about fifteen minutes

599
00:54:22.679 --> 00:54:30.639
going down the dirt road and imagine
fifteen minutes in silence, and then the

600
00:54:30.719 --> 00:54:36.159
lady in the backseat said, did
you guys see what I saw? So

601
00:54:37.199 --> 00:54:39.159
this is a really cool story.
Maybe I can get them in touch with

602
00:54:39.280 --> 00:54:44.559
you and be on the podcast.
But yeah, so that's just to kind

603
00:54:44.599 --> 00:54:52.800
of wrap it up for my experience
so far at our property. So first

604
00:54:52.880 --> 00:55:00.320
off, feel more than free to
pass on my info to anyone that you

605
00:55:00.559 --> 00:55:07.280
see fit that would be a good
fit. Great about the tracks. So

606
00:55:08.400 --> 00:55:12.800
when I was listening to your your
story again, I was thinking, did

607
00:55:12.840 --> 00:55:16.000
you get were you able to measure
out or do you remember how far the

608
00:55:16.159 --> 00:55:21.880
tracks were away from each other,
maybe anything to do with a gate or

609
00:55:22.239 --> 00:55:24.239
anything like that. Yeah, if
I was, If I was, if

610
00:55:24.280 --> 00:55:29.920
I brought a tape or you know, something to measure The problem is because

611
00:55:29.960 --> 00:55:34.599
I'm not jumping to conclusions about the
other tracks. I'm not. I'm not

612
00:55:34.840 --> 00:55:39.000
certain that it's that it's a sasquatch, but I do think that they were

613
00:55:39.039 --> 00:55:45.280
on all fours, knuckles on the
ground, and maybe maybe following a deer,

614
00:55:45.880 --> 00:55:52.000
and then occasionally standing up and standing
and then going back to all fours.

615
00:55:52.000 --> 00:55:57.119
That's that's what I'm assuming, because
of the way that a lot of

616
00:55:57.199 --> 00:56:01.880
it was messy, and then amongst
the messiness, UK see this perfect humanoid

617
00:56:02.559 --> 00:56:07.960
track in the snow. And so
I got photos of two really good ones

618
00:56:08.519 --> 00:56:15.840
and then four or five messy ones, and then what what what we might

619
00:56:15.960 --> 00:56:20.159
even assume is a it's like a
butt print where one of them sat down.

620
00:56:21.239 --> 00:56:25.880
So that's interesting because it's yeah,
it looks like a person sat their

621
00:56:25.920 --> 00:56:30.440
butt right down on the snow.
All right, Well, we can go

622
00:56:30.559 --> 00:56:37.360
there too, So what would you
say would be the dimensions of what you

623
00:56:37.440 --> 00:56:45.440
saw there? Roughly probably twenty inches
by ten inches or something like that.

624
00:56:47.079 --> 00:56:51.559
We know there's a small one there. I mean there's a smaller one and

625
00:56:51.679 --> 00:56:57.400
a large one, so you know, and that's just what I'm assuming based

626
00:56:57.440 --> 00:57:04.280
on I can definitely say there's a
large adult and a small child or juvenile

627
00:57:04.480 --> 00:57:07.480
or you know, whatever you want
to call it. So there might be

628
00:57:07.599 --> 00:57:13.800
there might have been more. Oh
boy. We stopped following the tracks as

629
00:57:13.840 --> 00:57:17.280
they went into like some denser brush
because it just was like, okay,

630
00:57:19.800 --> 00:57:25.599
uh, it's it's it's solemnly quiet
in this valley. We're the only we're

631
00:57:25.639 --> 00:57:31.559
the only people down here. Nobody
knows we're down here. We have now

632
00:57:31.679 --> 00:57:37.440
seen evidence that sasquatch has been here
at the minimum, the minimum of four

633
00:57:37.639 --> 00:57:42.039
days within this happening. I mean, that's when the snow was happening.

634
00:57:42.880 --> 00:57:49.000
So let's go ahead and enjoy what
we just experienced and make our way back

635
00:57:49.079 --> 00:57:53.000
to camp. Absolutely. And of
course, of course, later that night,

636
00:57:53.079 --> 00:58:00.880
you know, I hear twigs breaking, and it's like, have you

637
00:58:00.000 --> 00:58:05.880
started asking around to see if you
can talk to any other people that have

638
00:58:06.039 --> 00:58:13.119
had sightings or weird things happening around
the Dow Creek or lake Cushman area yourself.

639
00:58:14.039 --> 00:58:16.159
That's the next that's the next step
for me next time I go out

640
00:58:16.239 --> 00:58:22.280
there. There is a small country
store. It's kind of the hitching post

641
00:58:22.320 --> 00:58:25.599
where people can kind of catch up
and meet and things like that. There's

642
00:58:25.639 --> 00:58:30.719
a really great guy that owns owns
the store and makes great sandwiches. By

643
00:58:30.760 --> 00:58:35.280
the way, my brothers talked to
him a little bit. My brothers talked

644
00:58:35.320 --> 00:58:38.599
to some people outside of the store. You know. It's just kind of

645
00:58:38.639 --> 00:58:44.480
that country store dynamic where an old
man sitting out there smoking a pipe and

646
00:58:45.239 --> 00:58:49.880
so yeah, I'll pursue that because
I have photos, and having the photos

647
00:58:50.039 --> 00:58:54.239
is just it's it's so much better
than going up to someone and saying,

648
00:58:54.480 --> 00:58:58.719
hey, I heard a sasquatch last
night. It's like, no, hey,

649
00:58:58.880 --> 00:59:04.000
look at this photo I took.
Yeah, exactly, when you can

650
00:59:04.119 --> 00:59:09.760
start to show some evidence or you
know, if you get audio evidence in

651
00:59:09.800 --> 00:59:12.880
the future, you can play that. I mean, yeah, it does.

652
00:59:13.199 --> 00:59:16.400
It does give a lot of credence
to it. But sometimes you even

653
00:59:16.519 --> 00:59:20.800
have to you know, you say, hey, in this area, have

654
00:59:20.920 --> 00:59:25.320
you ever heard anything that kind of
sounds like a melodic owl or I mean,

655
00:59:25.480 --> 00:59:30.639
you'd be surprised even stuff like that
that can set people off as well.

656
00:59:30.719 --> 00:59:35.159
But I think you're on the right
track. Talking to that gentleman who

657
00:59:35.280 --> 00:59:38.280
owns that like small country store.
That's where all the info is going to

658
00:59:38.320 --> 00:59:44.480
be for sure, Right, Yeah, it's about to get exciting, Jeremiah.

659
00:59:44.480 --> 00:59:49.159
I feel like this year, now
that I know you're out there,

660
00:59:49.239 --> 00:59:53.119
now that I know what to look
for, it's going to be really exciting.

661
00:59:53.599 --> 01:00:00.840
My girlfriend I decided we're definitely doing
again, and it happened the exact

662
01:00:00.880 --> 01:00:05.039
same way. There might be another
fireworks show down the hill and the canal,

663
01:00:05.199 --> 01:00:08.559
and it might push the wildlife back. And you know who knows if

664
01:00:08.639 --> 01:00:14.360
they kind of have a clock,
an internal clock like birds with migration.

665
01:00:14.880 --> 01:00:20.000
You know who knows if sasquatch they
know, they know patterns, they follow

666
01:00:20.079 --> 01:00:24.800
patterns. I would assume they do
follow time patterns. And if we're out

667
01:00:24.840 --> 01:00:29.239
there and fourth of July and we
do the exact same thing, play some

668
01:00:29.639 --> 01:00:34.280
Marvin kay Cook oysters right here,
dance around, it's saying we could have

669
01:00:34.480 --> 01:00:39.599
another interesting holiday. Oh man,
Yeah, I have. I have a

670
01:00:39.639 --> 01:00:44.199
feeling things if you keep pursuing it, things will keep going. But I

671
01:00:44.280 --> 01:00:52.559
mean, Tim, thank you so
much for reaching out Sometimes people, well,

672
01:00:52.639 --> 01:00:55.119
I guess how about this, Is
there a way that you want people

673
01:00:55.280 --> 01:00:59.719
to contact you? Or sometimes witnesses
will be like, you know what,

674
01:00:59.840 --> 01:01:04.760
I'm fine just being Tim, And
you can send an email to Jeremiah and

675
01:01:04.840 --> 01:01:07.159
if you know, you can always
send it on or something like that.

676
01:01:09.480 --> 01:01:13.559
I'll probably take that second option.
Yeah, yeah, i'd say that's a

677
01:01:13.599 --> 01:01:19.719
good idea. Yeah, yeah,
it's I'm not going to be specific about

678
01:01:19.760 --> 01:01:22.920
where a property is either, because
exactly, you know, the worst thing,

679
01:01:22.199 --> 01:01:25.519
the worst thing would be people out
there with you know, an amplifying

680
01:01:25.559 --> 01:01:31.519
system howls and roars into the woods. It's a quiet it's such a quiet

681
01:01:32.000 --> 01:01:37.679
place. It's far off from any
highways. It's it's miles down a quiet

682
01:01:37.760 --> 01:01:43.840
road. It's not on any airplane
paths. So it's like the quietest sleep

683
01:01:43.920 --> 01:01:50.280
you'll ever get until you hear some
mysterious in the woods. Absolutely well,

684
01:01:50.360 --> 01:01:53.079
Tim, I appreciate you coming on
the podcast and reaching out to me,

685
01:01:53.159 --> 01:01:59.199
and please feel free to reach out
at any future time if you have other

686
01:01:59.320 --> 01:02:04.079
things to update us with. But
thank you for coming on. Great,

687
01:02:04.239 --> 01:02:07.519
Thank thanks so much for having me. I know my my accounts are kind

688
01:02:07.559 --> 01:02:10.239
of different, and you know,
I can. I can kind of just

689
01:02:10.360 --> 01:02:16.239
piece evidence together with these strange accounts, but I appreciate you having me on

690
01:02:16.400 --> 01:02:20.239
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