My House is Surrounded!

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Welcome to the Big Fat Society Podcast. In this episode, we're releasing three

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call in interviews from recent Bigfoot encounters
live from Kentucky, Maryland in North Carolina.

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If you've experienced something similar or have
more information regarding Bigfoot or other cryptids

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in the same areas, please reach
out immediately to me after this episode.

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get extra episodes weekly. Right,
guys in the chat, if you can

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let me know if you hear Frank
once he gets on the phone, please

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just right away. Hello, Hey
Frank, Hey ahead, not much we're

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gonna I'm waiting a minute to see
if someone in the chat can say,

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yeah, we hear Frank, just
to make sure because last time there is

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a little weird thing and we had
to start it. Oh yeah, So

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we'll give him a minute, All
right, Sherry, so we can hear

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you. So great, and you
hit the guest release for him, right,

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Frank, Yes, sir, perfect, Well, thank you for calling

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in. I'm gonna let you go
ahead and share what you would like to

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about what you've seen, and I
might ask some questions at the end of

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that. Sorry, Oh yeah,
yeah, thanks for having me. Yeah.

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I mean, I grew up in
south East Kentucky and Harlan, Harlan

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County, Kentucky. And you know
the time period that I grew up in.

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I mean, I'm not old,
you know, like it was.

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You know, it's just old timmy. I guess it's a little coal mine

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in town. So like, you
know, we didn't have internet not growing

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up, and so you didn't really
hear a whole lot of that big Foot

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and you know, we grew up
in the mountains. But uh so it

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just wasn't a thing. Like in
my mind, I was always under the

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impression that Bigfoot was like a just
like a k man or whatever. So

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it just never crossed my mind.
And then kind of, you know,

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I've had a few things. And
when I moved to Florida, I joined

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the army. And when I moved
to Florida, there's a guy that I

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worked with. He's from Ohio and
he's like a huge Bigfoot believer and I

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never scoffed at him or whatever,
but you know, I would tell him,

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you know, we just get talking
after years of working together, and

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he'd be, uh, oh,
you know, that's a bigfoot. You

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know. I just like, yeah, okay, cool, you know,

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and he'd say, no, I'm
serious, that's a bigfoot. And I

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never never really felt much telling it. And then he started chilling me videos

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one day and telling me things about
it, and I started, you know,

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like it started kind of clicking.
I was like, you know,

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maybe it was maybe it was a
big trip. And h then, you

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know, as I started researching everything, that's the only thing I can think

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of, to be honest. Uh. The first the first thing that I

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happened, These all three, besides
one when I was a kid, happened

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within a span of like two years, maybe back in uh, I guess

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the end of seven. I got
back from Iraq in October of seven,

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and I know we spent a lot
of time, me and my buddy spent

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a lot of time fishing and camping, and so it had to be between

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the end of seven and probably the
first part of eight. And one night

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we went fishing down at the bottom
it's like right at the base of Pine

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Mountain and we was out fishing.
It was a really good spot where rivers

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would kind of connect. And it
was probably about one two o'clock in the

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morning, and we started hearing splashes
in the water, and you know,

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at first didn't think much of it. It was kind of getting irritating because

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you know, it's like discuss gar
fish way and you know, we grew

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up in the mountains and we didn't
really use tents or anything when we went

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camping. We would just you know, sleep on the ground next to the

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fire, or sleep on the river
bank or whatever, and that's just the

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way we've done it. And so
we was just kind of sitting by the

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fire and when we started hearing splashes, the first thing that kind of crossed

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our mind after we was like getting
irritated, was that maybe it was beavers

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like smacking their tail on the water. And then the rocks started, you

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know, like we started noticing it. They were getting closer to us,

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and that's you know, well,
that's when I guess we realized they were

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rocks because it started hitting the bank
and you could tell they wasn't really trying

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to hit us, but they were
like getting close to us and kind of

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where we was at. They was
an overpass and if a car passed by,

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you can kind of that At the
angle we was at, you could

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kind of get a glare. And
we seen where the rocks were coming from,

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and it was coming off the side
of the mountain that was that,

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you know, the river was at
the base of the mountain. So and

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we were like kind of in a
center almost center island, kind of like

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a like a peak, and uh
so we kind of seen where the rocks

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were coming from. And I mean, and the first thing that crossed my

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mind was like, dude, whoever
thrower knows they're strong, you know,

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because some big rocks. And so
we honestly, at that time, I

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thought it was just people screwing with
us. And we didn't have anything back

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like as far as rocks, because
it was kind of like a sand sand

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sandy bank. So we had like
full popcins that we would we started launching

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back at in the direction and I
just started getting like a really uh a

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bad fear vibe, you know,
like something's telling me to go and I

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want those types, but I've always
trusted my gut. So when it's time

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to go, it's time to go. And you can call me a sec

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you can call me whatever you want. When my gut tells me to go,

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I'm going. And so I started
to leave and they was like,

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ah, you know, come on, it's just somebody. I was like,

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well, you can stay or whatever, and I just took off.

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I mean I started walking back to
the truck and as I got back up,

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there was a cop coming by,
and I slagged him and was like,

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hey, you know, I was
like, you know, we've done

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our fishing. People's throwing rocks at
us whatever He's I was like, you

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know, can you go this way
and flash you know, the spotlight?

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And he did and he couldn't find
it, and uh, you know,

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so not saying that it was or
wasn't, but that was the first kind

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of the thing that got me thinking
when I was telling these stories. And

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then maybe like two months later,
I was working for a security spot It's

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how. It was a company type
secure X, and basically they would take

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you and you would set out in
the mountains and kind of watched to make

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make sure like copper thieves and whatnot
didn't come and try to steal copper out

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of mines or mess with mining equipment
and stuff like that, and you know,

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at first, I thought it's gonna
be like what I'd see when i'd

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work at mines, like you know, people sitting in a trailer or something

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like that. But it wasn't.
And you had to sign a paper saying

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that you couldn't that you wouldn't take
a gun on site, or he wouldn't

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carry with you. And I thought
that was fine until I got up there,

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and you know, I realized I'm
sitting in you know, the middle

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of the mountains by myself in my
vehicle, and I'm working from six,

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you know, in the evening to
six in the morning. And you know,

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I had a little three hundred dollars
truck that nothing worked on it,

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like none of the gages or anything. And I remember it was in the

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middle of winter time and one of
the nights that I was up there,

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it happened back to back nights.
My truck, uh, you know,

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it's old, so it was like
I turned it dog because I didn't want

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to waste gas, and uh I
went to started and it was dead.

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So I was pretty much you know, stuck and the lights didn't work.

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I didn't have a gun or anything
like that. So to be honest,

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like it was kind of spooky,
and I started hearing footstebs and limbs breaking,

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and you know, I thought,
you know, figures, and the

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lights on the truck wasn't really got
bright, really didn't have a good flash

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flight, and to be honest,
like I really didn't want to get out

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and check because you know, to
be you know, whoever's going to be

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up there where I was at.
You know, it was a good thirty

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forty minute drive through rough, rough
road like back roads in the mountain like

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you're driving up the mountains, like
I literally had to put cinder blocks in

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the bed of my truck to make
sure I could grip, didn't enough to

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get up there. And so no
one's going to be up there, and

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if they were up there, they're
not walking and if they, you know,

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so you would have heard a vehicle
or something or a four wheel or

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if somebody was up there, and
at that time of night, you would

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have seen lights, because nobody would
have been up there just walking with that

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lights. And I started hearing footsteps
and they was coming around the truck,

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and to be honest, I locked
my doors and I shut my eyes and

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I pretended to be asleep, and
I figured, you know, if something

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came close enough, I didn't want
to see it anyway, And and I

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pretty much slaid there and kept my
eyes shut, and I heard stuff getting

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around the truck that wasn't animal,
you know, you could tell it was

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I guess what you call by peter. It sounded like a human walking,

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but I didn't really want to check, and I couldn't really wait until morning,

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and I kind of just this'es eventually
dozed off and then I woke up

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to something beating on my truck and
it was a guy, you know,

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he was doing his rams, and
he gave me a jump and I left.

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So the next day when I came
up, it was a different spot

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but the same mountain, and this
time I wasn't at Pine Mountain. I

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was. These two times. I
was going up Highway thirty eight. It

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was a place called High Split Mines
coal mines, but it was at the

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top of this mines. And the
second night that I was up there,

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I was in a different spot and
off in the distance they was what they

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called like an alder miner, which
it drilled holes into the side of the

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mountain and pulled coal out. But
you had, like you know, you

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had like a little white that was
maybe if football field or so away,

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and I remember sitting there and it
was all three times times. It happened

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around the same time, and it
was about anywhere from one to three at

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night. And this time I started
getting rocks thrown at me again, and

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at first I thought it was rocks
maybe, you know the way you know,

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like if you was walking through gravels
and you know, you might kick

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some rocks and you would hear them
scooed across the ground. That's kind of

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like what I would hear at first. And after maybe two or three times,

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I turned my lights on and I
seen the rocks coming from a certain

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distance and I knew from the impact
that they would hit the ground with and

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bounce if they had to be thrown
pretty hard to get there. And that's

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when I realized that somebody's throwing rocks
at me again. And you know,

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I first thought, well, if
it was a thief, they're not going

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to be trying to get my attention, They're going to be trying to snaw

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pass me. And it continued,
you know, I guess for probably fifteen

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twenty minutes. Rocks would continue and
it wasn't like none stop, but it

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was like one or two here a
few minutes would go by another one or

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two, and you could tell,
like again they wasn't trying to hit me,

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but they would come with them ten
feet at me, like on either

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my right or left side. And
again fear came over me, and something

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told me I need to believe,
and I thought, well, you know,

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to be honest, five bucks an
hour ain't really enough. Sorry,

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they was boilers to strow buck.
Five dollars an hour really ain't enough to

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sit here and risk anything, especially
when you ain't allowed to carry. So

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I left, and I left,
and I quit job, and it was

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like I ain't fool with it no
more. And then maybe three four weeks

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later that somebody had set the mountains
on fire. And there was a bootlegger

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that lived across the creek from where
I did, in the holler of that

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I grew up in. And he
raised hogs and I'm talking huge, huge

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hawks, and every now and then
they would get out, but not not

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like all the time, usually a
squat. But I remember we had got

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home from a football game. We
went watching the football game, and my

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uncle was standing outside and he started
hearing something up on the mountain in front

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of the house, and he hollered
at me because I walked inside, because

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we was actually out there just watching
watching the uh the glow off in the

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distance of where the mountain was on
fire and kind of like keeping an eye

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or where it was going. And
uh so I was like, you know,

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i'ven't been out here long enough.
It ain't coming our way yet,

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and I'm going inside. And he
hollered at me, and he told me

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to come out there, and he
asked me, he said, have you

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ever heard And it was a scream, And honestly, at that point,

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I'd never heard anything like it,
and it was really really loud. Uh

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but when you heard it, it
sounded like somebody was driving a truck or

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whatever through the mountains. It was
like the branches and stuff was breaking,

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and you know, it just sounded
like something was just line through the mountains

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and it was at a fast pace
and it was headed towards where the hogs

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would normally be. But I'd never
heard that squaw or whatever. And you

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know, I'd heard the guy when
he would know the hogs and stuff,

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and I knew what hogs sounded like, and I knew what deer and bear

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all that sounds like. But I'd
never heard this, and he asked me,

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He's like, you know what that
is? I said, I had

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no clue. I've never heard that. And it wasn't until I started getting

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into this and doing my own research, and you know, I've got really

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addicted and hooked into this now.
And so you know, when I ain't

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doing something working or something like that, I'm constantly listening to YouTube and watching

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videos and just I really like hearing
people's stories because I learned a lot from

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that and it's just interesting to me
that there's so many people from a different

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spots around the world have the same
stories. And you know, I lived

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down in South Florida now and I
guess they kind of the skunt cape down

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here, and I don't really know
much about it, but I've gotten really

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into it. But after researching and
stuff, a lot of this stuff,

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you know, little things would come
back to me. And I remember as

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a kid walking out of my house
one morning, well, and but at

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the base of the mountain, because
like when you walked out of her backyard,

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you walked in the mountain and you
walked straight up, and if you

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walked out of front of the house. It was a little bit of yard

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creep in a mountain. And uh, on the backside, if you walked

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out and walked down through the yard, there was a little spot like a

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trail that we used to go up
because we got our water from the mountain

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and anytime our water would freeze,
that's the trail that we would take to

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go find where it's frozen fix it. And at the base of that we

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found twelve well I found them,
but it was you know, basically asked

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that. It was twelve deer legs
that had what looked like being ripped out

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of a joint and just laid in
the yard. And they were kind of

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not like really in a pall,
but they were kind of all in a

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certain little area, and they didn't
have bitte marks, they wasn't skinned,

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nothing wrong with them. It just
looked like somebody had to literally rip them

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from the deer and threw them in
the yard and left them. And I'd

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never seen that, didn't know nothing
about it. And we just took them.

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We thought it was just, you
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I took them and through them,
through them back up in the mountain

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and look it and but the more
that I've looked into these stories and stuff,

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like I've heard people talk about how
they you know, I've heard a

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few stories about the deer legs,
you know, Uh, but I've never

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seen one. And I'm I'm trying
to get in with the b A r

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O And do some expeditions and find
people that I can go and I'm going

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to start looking for them regardless.
And uh, just because you know,

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I was in the infantry, I
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and you know, I understand hiding
and there was for the longest time,

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my theory was if there's a big
set, you know, with all the

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technology and and all that that we
have, we definitely would have found one

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by now. And you know when
I when I would say that to that

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guy who's like, we've seen them. There's videos, there's this, there's

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that. Again. I had never
got online looked up anything or whatever.

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And when I got online and started
looking this stuff up, I was like,

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it really convinced me. And I
was, I don't know, I'm

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gonna stay open minded with it.
I don't know, you know, I

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know people believe they're different things,
but for me, I guess I'm just

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really interested in it. It's got
me hooked right now. Part of me

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wants to see one, but from
a safe distance, you know. But

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yeah, I mean that's that's all
I've really experienced. But uh, looking

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back on it now and after all
the stories and stuff that I've heard and

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watched, I just can't think of
anything else that it would have been.

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You know, Frank you You've had
some really interesting stuff happen. Thank you

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for sharing that. Harlan County,
Kentucky. I mean some of the wildest

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stuff happens in that area, and
not just with Bigfoot. Also there's a

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lot of dog man stuff that happens
there too. But you know, that's

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that's another thing that i'd heard.
You know, like I said, we

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didn't. It was just something that
never really you know, it started making

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sense now when I was when I
look back on go on camping and stuff

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as a kid, because when we
would go camping, like my friends and

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his parents, like, they would
always line their fullers up in a circle,

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you know, and if any you
would hear any type of limb breaking

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or anything like that, you know, they try to sneak over and get

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on the foilers and hit the lights
at the same time. That way,

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it'd be like a three sixty perimeter
type thing, you know. And I

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alway, now that I looked into
it, I realized that where I grew

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up was a big hotspot. And
the guy that's really into it, he's

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like, dude, you were right
there, you know where it's at.

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And I thought, again, you
know, I was like, I guess,

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you know, but now it's like
now that I moved away, and

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as I'm really into it, you
know, I'm not there there to go

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looking around. And I'm sure,
you know. I remember my We would

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always walk to catch the bus down
at my grandma house and it wasn't a

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far walk, but you know,
like I said, they would always talk

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about hearing screams, like a like
a woman screaming or you know, like

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she's getting killed or whatever, and
they say, you know, my mom

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and then would always say, oh, you bear, hurry up and uh

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get to your Grandma's or whatever.
Because at the time I thought they were

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saying wooly booger. But now after
watching stuff, I guess they called it

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the wood burger wood Burger bigger or
something. And I always, you know,

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I just thought it was a joke
or a and you know they would

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say, oh, it's a it's
a mountain lion, or it's a bobcat

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or and it could have been.
I don't know, but uh, you

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know, as a kid, you
know, uh, I didn't really waste

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a lot of time getting there,
you know, so I would run and

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uh. But you know, now
looking back at it and looking at some

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of the stories, I think,
uh, I was listening to a podcast

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where a guy was talking about one
coming out of the weeds and breaking the

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hogs back and smacking it, and
I thought, well, you know,

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with all the hogs it's over there, it's possibility that you know, they

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kind of my idea is there's a
lot of full wheeling and stuff going on

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down that way. A lot of
people are in the mountains. But the

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thing is you're on trails, and
you know, you've got a lot of

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gen singers and stuff like that that
are out walking around, but you know,

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there's not really a lot that there's
so much woods and stuff that people,

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I guess assume that they're not there
because they you know, you're on

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these roads or you're on these back
roads or mountain roads or fuller roads or

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whatever. But you know, there's
still a lot of unexplored road. You

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know, like just because you're driving
road and you're in the mountains, you're

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not really in the mountains, you
know. And I know people that get

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out there and explore them. But
you know, it's like I know when

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I was in the army, if
we was out in the woods and a

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car came by, we retired to
get down hide when the car passed by,

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you get up in that way.
If anybody's looking at that window or

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driving by, they don't see nobody, and you know that's us. So

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it's like, you know, if
these things live out there, they're way

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better hiding than we are. And
so if they want, if they don't

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want to be seen, you know, I don't see why it's so hard

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for people to believe it. And
you know, I was one of them,

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you know, I was like but
like I said, I didn't know

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a lot about them, you know. Uh, I was under been pressing.

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It was just a caveman. And
but now that I remember, I

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called my mom maybe because you know
my wife she makes fun of me in

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which is fine. I don't I
don't care. Uh, none of that

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bothers me. But she's you know, she laughs and whatnot because she's like,

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are you in there making watching big? You know? So I called

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my mom and was telling her and
showing her some stuff and I was like,

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yeah, you know the dees blah
blah blah blah, and I said,

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you believe She's like yeah. I
was like, and it kind of

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shocked me that she said it so
uh, nonchalant, I guess, And

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so I don't know, I probably
need to talk to her and see,

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you know, and started asking people
and whatnot, because it's untelling the stories

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that people probably have that they don't
come out with, you know, because

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of the whole skeptic and people thinking
that they're crazy and stuff like that.

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And but you know, it was
like not even a hesitation when I asked

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her, and which is like I
said, it kind of shocked me,

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but it you know, it kind
of hurt my curiosity. I guess.

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Yeah, it sounds like you need
to ask your mom to share some stories

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or ask why she believes that,
right, Yeah, right, yeah,

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because i mean I'm sure with all
the people that's around that area and you

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know, stories of you know,
like where would you you know, I

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mean, I've heard the Woodburg Booger
uh on the podcast. And but you

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know I heard that. I didn't
hear big flip and uh So you know,

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I'm sure there's a lot of people
down in that area that probably had

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stories. You know. One that
I always wanted to ask was like the

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coal, the coal, the people
who drive the trains, you know,

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like uh uh the people that these
train drivers that go in these spots where

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people never really are and uh,
I would like to ask, you know,

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I'd like to talk to people like
that and and find out the stuff

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that they've seen, because you know, there are in some there are in

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some spots that probably a lot of
people don't really get to see. And

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uh, I mean not that they
would or not, but you know I

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knew some kind of excited Yeah.
Absolutely, And it sounds like you might

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have some some cool connections to that
area or you know the type of people

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that to talk to that. You
know, people outside of growing up in

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Harlan would have no idea to look
for those people. So Frank, I'm

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glad you called in tonight. I
mean, I love it. Sorry.

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You know, something breaking through the
woods in the Loud Scream event that that

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is incredible I mean, without it, there's no doubt that that was probably

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a big foot up there or something
similar like. That's wild man. I

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had never heard that until I started
listening to the podcast and when I heard

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some of the sounds from the podcast
of I'm not saying it was a whoop,

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but it was, oh my,
like a howl. But I knew

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as soon as I heard it wasn't
like the wolves that I heard, but

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I knew one of these. It
was on one of the episodes. When

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I heard it, it clipped,
and I knew that that was it because

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it was said as such. It
was so high and it was such a

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rumbling going on, but the sound
was so loud you just could there wasn't

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nothing to compare it to. And
uh but at the rate that it was

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going across the mountain, you know, at first you'd have thought, is

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that a bird flying? Because it's
moving quick, you know. Uh,

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But it was so it was too
much, too much breaking and too loud

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of my noise to be to be
anything other than that. And uh but

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yeah, hopefully hopefully, you know, they say the Skunk Cape. You

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know, I've been going over and
camping in Big Cyphrus and Uh, me

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and my son found some footprints out
in a mud puddle there. But you

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know, it wasn't that they could
have been human that they were. It

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was just the odd spot, you
know, like uh, your way out

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through there on a foil or a
turkey hunting and sure there's no prints going

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up through a trail and stuff like
that, and it's just in one mud

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puddle on the face and the weeds, you know. And uh, but

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then I hear that the skunking pas
four toes and but then you know,

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who knows? I don't. I
don't know much about it. There's some

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weird stuff down in Florida, definitely. Uh, you know, keep me

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in mind if you if you come
across anything when you're down there around And

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I appreciate you calling in and sharing
all about Harlan County, Kentucky. That

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was really cool, Frank, I
appreciate it. Brother. Sorry I took

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up so much of your time.
You're good. You have a great night,

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sir. YouTube mhm. So if
you don't, oh, here we

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go every time, this this technology
every time. I love it. All

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right, I'm gonna try I apologize. I'm gonna try to call back right

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real quick. Okay, it's going
through my speakers. All right. Hello,

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Hi, this is Jeremiah. Hey
Jeremiah, how's it going good?

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Who's this? This is Joey Joey
on Instagram and Condros on YouTube. I

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switched. Yeah, thanks for calling
in, Joey and you. I got

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the form filled out right, yes, Sirry I did, all right,

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So Joey, I'm going to go
ahead. Actually let me. I need

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to put it on do not disturb
real quick and then so we don't get

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disturbed during the call. But Joey, thank you for calling in. The

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floor is yours? Go ahead and
share what you would like. Okay,

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listen. First of all, I
want to say I'm a big fan of

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your podcast and I'm actually really kind
of excited to be able to talk to

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you. And I've shared my story
with one other person before, which I

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won't comment on that. But you
know, I was one of those people

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that just never knew anything about this, didn't believe in anything. But when

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I was a little kid, and
this is like in the eighties, it

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was like mid eighties, I was
probably about twelve years old. I used

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to walk in the woods a lot, and I live in Maryland and you

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know, Maryland's not supposed to be
a huge thing for bigfoot, squatch anything

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like that. But I was going
through the woods like I used to do

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all the time, you know,
on the weekends and after school and stuff.

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I used to go to this creek
and I used to wait to get

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a creek looking for turtles and snakes
and stuff like that. And I really

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hearing this noise on the bark of
the tree and I looked up about one

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hundred and fifty feet away and not
like into the woodline, but just down

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for me. And you know,
that's the difference, and that's why I

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could see it. I saw this
little white monkey and it was coming down

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the tree head first when I saw
it, and as a little kid,

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I just didn't know what to make
of it. I just kind of looked

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00:33:49.319 --> 00:33:51.759
at it, and I realized it
was staring at me. And when it

411
00:33:52.079 --> 00:33:53.720
realized that, I, you know, we basically locked the eyes. We

412
00:33:53.759 --> 00:33:58.279
were just looking at each other.
It went around the creek just like a

413
00:33:58.319 --> 00:34:04.880
squirrel wood And so I started walking
through the creek and I get out and

414
00:34:04.920 --> 00:34:07.640
I walked through that tree and I
circled the whole tree, and I couldn't

415
00:34:07.640 --> 00:34:10.800
see it anymore. I didn't find
it, so I have no idea where

416
00:34:10.800 --> 00:34:15.800
it went to. But basically what
it was is like a little monkey that

417
00:34:15.920 --> 00:34:21.280
looked kind of like a baby chimp, you know how little baby chimps look.

418
00:34:22.000 --> 00:34:24.280
But it was white. It didn't
have a tail. I remember that

419
00:34:24.840 --> 00:34:30.000
it didn't have a tail, and
it was white, and it was maybe

420
00:34:30.079 --> 00:34:32.639
like two feet long from like the
head to its little bottom. You know

421
00:34:34.119 --> 00:34:37.400
that they had their little legs and
stuff, but like the little body was

422
00:34:37.440 --> 00:34:40.000
maybe like two feet long. And
I didn't know what to make of it.

423
00:34:40.000 --> 00:34:43.880
Because I was a little kid.
I had never heard of cryptis or

424
00:34:43.920 --> 00:34:46.559
anything like that. I had no
idea what that was. All I know

425
00:34:46.679 --> 00:34:53.400
is I saw like this little white
monkey in Maryland. We don't have monkeys

426
00:34:53.440 --> 00:35:00.800
here, absolutely, yeah, go
ahead, sorry, no, no,

427
00:35:00.880 --> 00:35:05.599
you're fine, And you think about
it is. As I got older and

428
00:35:05.639 --> 00:35:08.119
got older, finally I like heard
about sasquatch and stuff like that, so

429
00:35:08.159 --> 00:35:12.280
I started reading books on it.
And you know, as I was growing

430
00:35:12.360 --> 00:35:15.400
up, we didn't really have the
Internet or anything like that, so all

431
00:35:15.440 --> 00:35:17.039
I could do was like grab a
book here, grab a book there at

432
00:35:17.039 --> 00:35:22.079
the library where I could read stuff
about it and I basically left it alone

433
00:35:22.159 --> 00:35:31.199
for all those years until I found
the you know podcasts, and I started

434
00:35:31.239 --> 00:35:37.400
hearing stories about Bigfoot and Sasquatch and
everything's like that. And then I started

435
00:35:37.440 --> 00:35:42.360
hearing stuff about you know what Ron
mor Hit said about the Sierra Sounds,

436
00:35:42.400 --> 00:35:45.920
and I'm like, not a minute, there's something going on here, you

437
00:35:45.920 --> 00:35:49.559
know, cause I'm pretty sure I
saw a monkey where I know that there

438
00:35:49.559 --> 00:35:53.159
are no monkeys, and you know, in my ignorant mind, I'm thinking,

439
00:35:53.239 --> 00:35:58.360
well, it's just a monkey.
But then the more I heard about

440
00:35:58.400 --> 00:36:01.079
it, the more stories, I
realized, it's it's not just the monkey.

441
00:36:01.119 --> 00:36:06.480
I realized the way a minute,
I saw something that was pretty crazy.

442
00:36:07.360 --> 00:36:14.599
So I start taking the the Sierra
Sounds where I used to live,

443
00:36:15.079 --> 00:36:22.159
which was just at the bottom of
the Appalachian Mountains in Maryland. I live

444
00:36:22.199 --> 00:36:27.320
in Frederick County, and I started
blasting the Sierra Sounds out into the backwoods

445
00:36:27.400 --> 00:36:30.320
into the property. It was about
four hundred meters back. We had a

446
00:36:30.360 --> 00:36:37.639
little creek basically that's connected to the
Potomac River. And if you I mean,

447
00:36:37.960 --> 00:36:39.760
I don't care who looks it up
or anything like that. It's I

448
00:36:39.760 --> 00:36:43.719
mean, I'm not lying about it
so, but you can look it up,

449
00:36:43.760 --> 00:36:49.880
and you know, the Potomac River
in Maryland connects all there's a trail

450
00:36:49.960 --> 00:36:52.000
that it's called the c and O
Canal that connects all the way to Ohio.

451
00:36:52.079 --> 00:36:59.400
And you know there's so many encounters
in Ohio and stuff like that.

452
00:37:00.119 --> 00:37:05.320
There's basically a trail through all the
cities. Whatever you want to call it,

453
00:37:05.639 --> 00:37:09.599
that's just wilderness. That's even how
the coyotes and other animals have started

454
00:37:09.599 --> 00:37:21.239
to move down into our state through
that using that trail. But I get

455
00:37:21.320 --> 00:37:22.800
up early, and I'll try to
be as sass as I can with this.

456
00:37:22.880 --> 00:37:27.000
I don't mean to take up your
time. I get up very early

457
00:37:27.079 --> 00:37:34.119
for work because the nature my job. And I have dogs, and I

458
00:37:34.280 --> 00:37:40.880
have German shepherds that are German blood, working German shepherds like they're the kind

459
00:37:40.920 --> 00:37:45.039
of the police departments take. And
I keep those dogs because I use them

460
00:37:45.039 --> 00:37:52.119
for they're trained for protection. They're
trying to protect the animals at the house.

461
00:37:52.159 --> 00:37:54.920
They're trying to protect the people at
the house. So they're not kind

462
00:37:54.920 --> 00:38:01.079
of the kind of dog that backs
down from anything. We run into coyotes.

463
00:38:01.239 --> 00:38:05.400
They ran the pack of the coyotes
out of the area. They run

464
00:38:05.440 --> 00:38:09.400
the bears out of the area because
they don't play, and obviously I maintain

465
00:38:09.480 --> 00:38:16.079
a pack because that's where their strength
is in numbers. And this one morning,

466
00:38:17.199 --> 00:38:23.920
this is like in twenty twenty twenty
two, I want to say,

467
00:38:24.039 --> 00:38:28.440
because I had been I had started
that in the fall, so it must

468
00:38:28.440 --> 00:38:32.679
have been in the spring of twenty
twenty three. I'm going through the usual

469
00:38:32.719 --> 00:38:37.760
routeam with the dogs to put them
out and everything, and they wouldn't go

470
00:38:37.800 --> 00:38:44.639
outside, like they just froze and
they would not go outside. And then,

471
00:38:44.920 --> 00:38:50.480
like I said, about four hundred
meters away in the down in the

472
00:38:50.519 --> 00:38:54.960
creek, I hear in exchange of
what sounds to me like two chimps,

473
00:38:55.519 --> 00:39:01.880
like the way you know it.
A chimp makes a very distinct sound,

474
00:39:02.119 --> 00:39:07.360
you know, like from nature documentaries
and stuff like that when they go who

475
00:39:07.960 --> 00:39:13.320
you know, they get like that
high pitch when they get excited. But

476
00:39:13.400 --> 00:39:20.920
it wasn't like just an animal going
off. It was an interaction between two

477
00:39:21.039 --> 00:39:24.719
animals because I heard two distinct voices
that there were no words. No,

478
00:39:25.000 --> 00:39:31.239
it wasn't anything like that. It
was an exchange between two animals that were

479
00:39:34.000 --> 00:39:38.079
I guess for the lack of a
better term arguing between each other. But

480
00:39:38.119 --> 00:39:44.679
what got me was none of these
dogs would go outside, like they were

481
00:39:44.719 --> 00:39:50.559
just frozen and refuse to go outside. And you know, I've seen these

482
00:39:50.599 --> 00:39:55.280
dogs take off after a full grown
black bear. I've seen them take off

483
00:39:55.280 --> 00:39:58.840
into the middle of a kyote pack
and they say, well, you know,

484
00:39:59.840 --> 00:40:02.199
the kyo's will drag him out till
the full pack comes in, and

485
00:40:02.400 --> 00:40:06.760
blah blah blah. I've heard all
those stories. I've seen it. I

486
00:40:06.800 --> 00:40:10.920
know what my dogs are capable of, and I've seen it done. These

487
00:40:10.920 --> 00:40:17.000
dogs wouldn't move off the back porch, so I left it at Dad talked

488
00:40:17.000 --> 00:40:20.840
to my brother about it and everything
else. He is, I don't know,

489
00:40:20.840 --> 00:40:30.519
and who knows? And uh about
a week later, I get uh

490
00:40:31.679 --> 00:40:37.800
woken up. It was just after
midnight. I get woken up, and

491
00:40:37.920 --> 00:40:44.440
all I can hear is just something
going damn bam, like somebody's taking a

492
00:40:44.480 --> 00:40:49.960
baseball back to a tree somewhere.
Would And uh, Gary, I used

493
00:40:50.320 --> 00:40:59.039
I lived in. Everybody's got firearms. One of my neighbors used to constantly

494
00:40:59.280 --> 00:41:05.079
shoot his we are out into the
targets he had back behind his property.

495
00:41:06.599 --> 00:41:09.960
So it's not the kind of place
where you're just going to start waking up

496
00:41:10.039 --> 00:41:15.119
the neighbors, you know, because
the houses are far enough apart that we

497
00:41:15.239 --> 00:41:23.960
know if there's stuff going on.
Especially like with with my house, everybody

498
00:41:24.039 --> 00:41:28.960
knew the dogs I had. If
people were coming over, they would usually

499
00:41:28.960 --> 00:41:30.360
call and say, hey, we're
coming over, you know, make sure

500
00:41:30.400 --> 00:41:34.960
you've got the dogs or whatever,
because you're not just rolling up on this

501
00:41:35.079 --> 00:41:40.519
house. And if the dogs are
outside, and so it wakes me up,

502
00:41:43.599 --> 00:41:45.599
and I'm a little bit out of
it and everything else. And the

503
00:41:45.679 --> 00:41:52.239
thing that gets me is that my
dog should be up, My dog should

504
00:41:52.280 --> 00:41:55.519
be alerting, My dog should be
barking and growling, getting ready to charge

505
00:41:55.519 --> 00:42:01.920
outside. And all their little beds
are around our bed inside the room with

506
00:42:02.000 --> 00:42:07.039
us, right, and these dogs
are just laying there. Because I woke

507
00:42:07.119 --> 00:42:09.920
up and I looked at them,
they're laying there. They're just flat,

508
00:42:10.079 --> 00:42:15.880
like if they could have dug themselves
any further into the beds they would have.

509
00:42:15.480 --> 00:42:22.480
Their ears are back, their heads
are completely down, and none of

510
00:42:22.519 --> 00:42:28.559
these dogs are making a single sound, no growls, no nothing, no

511
00:42:28.679 --> 00:42:36.159
barking, just down in their beds. And these are this is not the

512
00:42:36.199 --> 00:42:42.239
type of dogs that I have like
if one of the goats started crying or

513
00:42:42.239 --> 00:42:45.280
something or bellowing in the backyard,
they'd be up. They would be the

514
00:42:45.280 --> 00:42:52.960
first ones up, barking and growling, getting ready to launch themselves outside.

515
00:42:53.159 --> 00:43:00.280
They're hearing this huge sound that woke
us up. Nothing they're doing, ACTI

516
00:43:00.400 --> 00:43:07.800
be nothing. Now Here's this the
strange part which some people may or may

517
00:43:07.840 --> 00:43:12.760
not believe. As soon as I
picked up that phone to you know,

518
00:43:12.880 --> 00:43:15.480
start recording, to put it on
video and start recording, it stopped.

519
00:43:19.239 --> 00:43:22.159
And when I finally put the phone
back down because I didn't hear it again,

520
00:43:22.119 --> 00:43:30.239
I heard it, but it was
much further away. And you know,

521
00:43:30.360 --> 00:43:35.880
I'm not going to tell you that
I that it's a sasquatch because you

522
00:43:35.960 --> 00:43:37.960
know, like I said, I'm
just trying to be brief with this,

523
00:43:37.119 --> 00:43:45.480
but there's a lot more details I
go into it, Joey, But you're

524
00:43:45.480 --> 00:43:50.320
not the first person to say that
whole uh you pick up the recorder and

525
00:43:50.480 --> 00:43:52.880
it stopped, Like dude, I've
gotten that more than one time. It's

526
00:43:52.960 --> 00:43:58.559
wild. But sorry, go ahead, now what I was trying to tell

527
00:43:58.599 --> 00:44:00.840
you, Like I said, I'm
just trying to bre brief because I don't

528
00:44:00.880 --> 00:44:05.800
want to take up your time.
But that the one thing I'll tell you,

529
00:44:05.840 --> 00:44:09.199
honestly is that at one point when
I realized that my dogs were not

530
00:44:09.280 --> 00:44:15.519
reacting to that, all my hair
just stood up. And I cannot explain

531
00:44:15.559 --> 00:44:22.559
to you why that happened. It
just it was like a very what do

532
00:44:22.559 --> 00:44:30.840
you called it, Like a very
ah primal, like a very primal fear.

533
00:44:30.960 --> 00:44:36.760
Like my all my hair just stood
up. And I couldn't explain why

534
00:44:36.800 --> 00:44:39.920
because I had not seen anything.
I didn't know what was actually out there,

535
00:44:40.880 --> 00:44:50.519
but it just did and that just
felt so weird. And the fact

536
00:44:50.519 --> 00:44:55.519
that my dogs didn't react, I
cannot logically explain that because, like I

537
00:44:55.519 --> 00:44:59.440
said, my dogs have. The
biggest thing we have in Maryland is a

538
00:44:59.440 --> 00:45:02.159
blackbird. They're not even that big
here, you know. And I've seen

539
00:45:02.199 --> 00:45:08.000
my dogs going after the black bears. And now don't before anybody gets all

540
00:45:08.079 --> 00:45:12.800
upset about it. And I'm not
saying don't let them go attack a black

541
00:45:12.840 --> 00:45:15.039
bear or something like that, just
you know, driving them off the property.

542
00:45:15.119 --> 00:45:23.440
So the goats are safe, but
they're not afraid of animals, natural

543
00:45:23.440 --> 00:45:29.440
animals in the woods, you know. They run the coyotes off, the

544
00:45:29.480 --> 00:45:34.480
bears. Now know that now that
the animals are full grown, that they

545
00:45:34.519 --> 00:45:40.199
need to give the pharm a wide
birth. You know, what the heck

546
00:45:40.280 --> 00:45:45.039
was in the woods that night that
both there's knights that scared them like that?

547
00:45:45.159 --> 00:45:51.000
And what did I see when I
was a kid? I mean again,

548
00:45:51.199 --> 00:45:54.159
I'm not going to tell you that
it was a sasquatch, but I

549
00:45:54.159 --> 00:45:58.519
can tell you I saw I definitely
saw a monkey in the tree that looked

550
00:45:58.519 --> 00:46:07.840
like a little baby shimp, and
I heard what sounded to me like shimps

551
00:46:07.840 --> 00:46:13.400
in the creek behind our property.
When I heard what sounded to me like

552
00:46:13.760 --> 00:46:22.000
wood knots, which is often,
you know, said to be a sasquatch.

553
00:46:22.880 --> 00:46:27.440
I cannot tell you that that's what
it was because I never saw it.

554
00:46:29.199 --> 00:46:35.880
I can only tell you what I
experienced during that in count or during

555
00:46:35.880 --> 00:46:37.760
that incident, I guess you say. And I can only tell you how

556
00:46:37.840 --> 00:46:47.800
my dogs reacted to it, which
to me is very It's what normally happens

557
00:46:49.239 --> 00:46:52.519
when one of these creatures is around, because the dogs were having no part

558
00:46:52.519 --> 00:47:00.199
of it, and that's not the
dogs I have, Joey. It's definitely

559
00:47:00.239 --> 00:47:07.599
a really interesting thing you're going through, and an individual in the chat Phyllis

560
00:47:07.800 --> 00:47:12.440
pointed out, it's almost like,
you know, it makes you wonder,

561
00:47:14.320 --> 00:47:17.079
what if the dogs seen that,
they know that there's something out there.

562
00:47:17.280 --> 00:47:22.119
I think he might be on to
something there, Joe, where you saw

563
00:47:22.159 --> 00:47:24.719
the white monkey when you were a
kid, How far away from is that

564
00:47:24.760 --> 00:47:34.440
in the same area or that's actually
I live about fifty sixty miles from where

565
00:47:34.440 --> 00:47:37.760
I grew up. I mean I
left, and you know, I've lived

566
00:47:37.760 --> 00:47:39.199
in other states and all that,
but I came back and now I live

567
00:47:39.280 --> 00:47:44.840
only I live at the foot of
the Appalation Mountains, but I'm only about

568
00:47:45.360 --> 00:47:51.519
fifty sixty miles from where I grew
up. It's very interesting where I grew

569
00:47:51.599 --> 00:47:54.280
up. Where I grew up back
then was a lot obviously there was a

570
00:47:54.280 --> 00:48:00.639
lot more wilderness areas and stuff before
it was all built up. So it

571
00:48:00.719 --> 00:48:05.960
was definitely a different area back in
the eighties than what it is now.

572
00:48:08.280 --> 00:48:13.199
I would say, definitely keep me
in the loop. I think stuff is

573
00:48:13.239 --> 00:48:16.239
probably going to keep happening for you
unless you put up like game cams or

574
00:48:16.280 --> 00:48:22.559
something around your property. They usually
tend to go away because of the ir

575
00:48:22.760 --> 00:48:25.280
But yeah, let me know.
You know, you can send me an

576
00:48:25.280 --> 00:48:30.119
email Bigfoot Society at gmail dot com
if you have any updates in the future.

577
00:48:30.719 --> 00:48:35.199
But thank you for calling in and
sharing what's going on on your property.

578
00:48:36.559 --> 00:48:38.119
Yes, certain, Like I said, I just wanted to get that

579
00:48:38.239 --> 00:48:40.320
out there to you. I meaning
to talk to you for a while,

580
00:48:40.440 --> 00:48:45.000
and I don't mean to take up
your time, so I just wanted to

581
00:48:45.039 --> 00:48:47.400
share that with you. I'll email
you and I'll let you in them more

582
00:48:47.480 --> 00:48:53.519
of the details of what actually happened. But that's basically a brief summar you

583
00:48:55.280 --> 00:49:01.639
what it was. But I definitely
a little chink in a tree when I

584
00:49:01.679 --> 00:49:05.239
was a little kid. I just
didn't know what it was at that time.

585
00:49:06.039 --> 00:49:12.599
That's wild. Also, see if
you can, if you if you're

586
00:49:12.639 --> 00:49:15.159
in good relations with any neighbors,
talk to your neighbors. See if they're

587
00:49:15.199 --> 00:49:20.480
having weird stuff going on too.
I'd be curious to know if it's just

588
00:49:20.599 --> 00:49:29.679
your place or if it's the people
around you too. The neighbors is a

589
00:49:29.719 --> 00:49:34.400
hard thing to breach, gotcha,
Okay, all right, I'll cross We'll

590
00:49:34.760 --> 00:49:40.239
leave it there. I mean,
it's hard to go up to somebody to

591
00:49:40.280 --> 00:49:45.280
say, hey, do you think
you got big foot in your backyard too?

592
00:49:45.400 --> 00:49:50.079
Or I don't know, but I'll
work on it. Maybe bake them

593
00:49:50.079 --> 00:49:55.400
some cookies too. Nothing else going
on weird around your area, just just

594
00:49:55.400 --> 00:50:04.719
the big foot stuff. Any other
weird things going on? Well, uh,

595
00:50:07.960 --> 00:50:12.320
weird lights. I don't know if
if you get into that also,

596
00:50:12.480 --> 00:50:16.360
I honestly don't know if you talk. Yeah, so can you kind of

597
00:50:16.440 --> 00:50:25.639
describe what you mean by weird lights? I guess what everybody would call like

598
00:50:25.719 --> 00:50:35.599
these orbs of lights that just seemed
to go through the backwoods. And it's

599
00:50:35.639 --> 00:50:38.320
not a flashlight, because you know, we've already gone through that whole thing,

600
00:50:39.199 --> 00:50:45.559
and it's kind of the same thing. It's the dogs don't necessarily react

601
00:50:45.599 --> 00:50:49.679
the same way that we heard those
sounds or when we felt the pressings and

602
00:50:49.760 --> 00:50:54.760
something else. It's not exactly like
that, but you can tell that the

603
00:50:55.199 --> 00:51:02.280
dogs get tense. And I always
these, you know, I've always been

604
00:51:02.320 --> 00:51:05.639
out in the woods. I grew
up in the in the woods. So

605
00:51:06.880 --> 00:51:10.000
I just I read my dog's body
language, and I can tell when there's

606
00:51:10.039 --> 00:51:14.440
an animal around, when there's something
that they need to take care of,

607
00:51:14.480 --> 00:51:22.719
when there's a predator, when when
there's prey, and dogs just have a

608
00:51:22.760 --> 00:51:30.800
certain body language absolute when when we
heard those sounds. You could just tell

609
00:51:30.840 --> 00:51:34.199
they were scared, like they want
to know part of it. When I

610
00:51:34.239 --> 00:51:40.159
see these lights, they just tense
up. And as a matter of fact,

611
00:51:40.679 --> 00:51:45.639
my my sister and my brother in
law are here. They're from Michigan,

612
00:51:46.079 --> 00:51:51.360
and my brother in law has this
huge property up in Michigan in the

613
00:51:51.440 --> 00:51:54.320
Upper Peninsula where he does a lot
of hunting. I've been out there fishing

614
00:51:54.360 --> 00:51:58.599
and hunting with him before, and
he's got these game camps up and he

615
00:51:58.639 --> 00:52:05.159
actually has taken picture of these orbs
that I don't really have any game camps

616
00:52:05.199 --> 00:52:08.719
because you know, it's just the
backyard to me. But he's actually taking

617
00:52:09.039 --> 00:52:15.280
pictures of these caught them on the
game camps of these warps. And I

618
00:52:15.280 --> 00:52:22.039
don't understand how a light triggers emotion
sensor, but I've seen I've seen these

619
00:52:22.159 --> 00:52:30.599
lights back in the woods over the
creaking into that area. Well I've seen

620
00:52:30.639 --> 00:52:36.280
white and i've seen blue, gotcha. But uh, I don't know what

621
00:52:36.360 --> 00:52:43.119
to make of it. And you
know, I have weapons, like I

622
00:52:43.119 --> 00:52:46.480
could go down there and see if
it's a human being or something walking around

623
00:52:46.719 --> 00:52:52.519
in the creek with a flashlight or
something. But the way it moves clearly

624
00:52:52.599 --> 00:52:54.960
it's not. And sometimes you see
them up like in the higher canopy of

625
00:52:54.960 --> 00:53:00.000
the trees, and then they just
kind of go off and do their own

626
00:53:00.119 --> 00:53:06.480
thing. But I just I see
them, but I try not to pay

627
00:53:06.519 --> 00:53:12.480
too much attention then, because truthfully, I guess I feel like if I

628
00:53:12.519 --> 00:53:15.400
pay attention to it, then it's
going to pay attention to me, and

629
00:53:15.480 --> 00:53:21.960
I don't really want that absolutely.
But I've seen a lot of it was

630
00:53:22.519 --> 00:53:28.159
orps going through trees, and at
times I've seen lights flying overhead and not

631
00:53:28.440 --> 00:53:32.039
like like the orbs. They are
different than the orbs, and it's like

632
00:53:32.159 --> 00:53:40.480
a shoot, you're really gonna think
I'm crazy, now go ahead. I've

633
00:53:40.519 --> 00:53:49.199
seen like these silver this is like
in broad daylight. I've seen like a

634
00:53:49.239 --> 00:53:55.960
silver thing shaped like an egg hovering
over the house one time, okay,

635
00:53:57.000 --> 00:54:00.559
and as soon as I pulled out
my phone to try to record it,

636
00:54:00.559 --> 00:54:07.320
it just shot up straight up and
it was gone. And as a matter

637
00:54:07.360 --> 00:54:12.360
of fact, just last last weekend, as I was outside grilling, this

638
00:54:12.519 --> 00:54:15.920
is, like I said, this
is in the middle of the afternoon where

639
00:54:15.000 --> 00:54:20.519
you know the sun's out, you
can see everything clearly. I saw a

640
00:54:20.639 --> 00:54:27.119
round one around sober ball just hovering, and where I looked up at it,

641
00:54:27.239 --> 00:54:30.679
it started to fly away. So
again I pull out my phone to

642
00:54:30.719 --> 00:54:32.679
start recording it. As soon as
I do that, it just is gone.

643
00:54:35.880 --> 00:54:44.519
So I'm not not I'm not crazy. You are, and you're calling

644
00:54:44.559 --> 00:54:50.199
into the right place where we don't
call people crazy because you're free to just

645
00:54:50.239 --> 00:54:52.440
share your story and we're trying to
all figure it out together. Man.

646
00:55:00.079 --> 00:55:07.679
So I guess this would be other
other strange things that I have seen in

647
00:55:07.159 --> 00:55:12.880
the sky. Like I said,
I I cannot tell you one hundred percent

648
00:55:12.920 --> 00:55:15.320
that I've seen a sasquatch. I
know you. I've seen a little white

649
00:55:15.360 --> 00:55:21.599
michin a tree. I can tell
you for a fact that I've heard chinks

650
00:55:21.960 --> 00:55:28.400
in the creek behind that lead down
to the c and O Canal. I've

651
00:55:28.400 --> 00:55:39.559
heard what quote unquote sounds like wooden
knocking, and I see white and blue

652
00:55:39.960 --> 00:55:46.079
orbs going through the trees in the
backward the creek runs a lot of times.

653
00:55:46.119 --> 00:55:50.199
And I have seen these other things. So I don't know what all

654
00:55:50.239 --> 00:55:53.079
that means. But I don't know. I just digive You're the guy to

655
00:55:54.280 --> 00:55:58.440
reach out to and talk to about
this kind of stuff, because nobody else

656
00:55:58.480 --> 00:56:02.679
is going to believe me. My
sister laughs at me. She's my my

657
00:56:02.840 --> 00:56:09.639
brother in law. He's a hunter
too, and uh yeah he when they're

658
00:56:09.800 --> 00:56:14.119
they're in Michigan now, but when
he was still here in Maryland, they

659
00:56:14.159 --> 00:56:21.239
had some property up near pa.
He was actually run out of his uh

660
00:56:21.880 --> 00:56:28.119
deer stand like something that was growling
at him, and uh, he and

661
00:56:28.159 --> 00:56:30.320
I are kind of the same page, but he just won't talk to me

662
00:56:30.360 --> 00:56:35.159
about it. But he said he
actually got down out of deer stand,

663
00:56:36.480 --> 00:56:40.239
walked out into the cornfield that he
was overseeing where the year was supposed to

664
00:56:40.280 --> 00:56:44.920
be done with through because he was
scared to go back into the woods.

665
00:56:45.440 --> 00:56:50.280
And he was in mind you this
is we're both ex military. This this

666
00:56:50.400 --> 00:56:52.760
guy worked with special forces and everything
else. So it's not like he's,

667
00:56:52.880 --> 00:56:59.000
you know, some sort of soft
week guy. He's not. She was

668
00:57:00.039 --> 00:57:02.840
scared enough that he just went out
to the middle of the field, called

669
00:57:02.880 --> 00:57:07.239
my sister and said, come pick
me up at this other road. Wow.

670
00:57:07.280 --> 00:57:10.880
Because he was afraid because the way
where he had parked, he had

671
00:57:10.920 --> 00:57:14.719
to go back into the woods to
get to his truck. And he's like,

672
00:57:14.880 --> 00:57:20.480
I'm not going back into those woods. He had him up and drive

673
00:57:20.599 --> 00:57:22.920
him all the way around back to
his truck because he was that scared.

674
00:57:22.960 --> 00:57:25.320
And this is not the kind of
man that gets scared. I mean,

675
00:57:25.320 --> 00:57:30.880
the guy's like well over six feet. He's a big, huge guy.

676
00:57:30.880 --> 00:57:37.719
You know he would. But he
told me that, he said something was

677
00:57:37.800 --> 00:57:44.000
growling back there at me, and
like I said, the biggest things we

678
00:57:44.039 --> 00:57:46.880
have here is black bears. Everybody
knows what a black bear looks like.

679
00:57:46.920 --> 00:57:51.760
And in Maryland they don't get that
big. You know, it's not like

680
00:57:51.800 --> 00:57:55.360
we're in Montana where we're going to
get a grizzly bearer. Ye black bear,

681
00:57:55.519 --> 00:58:00.360
you can make enough noise and run
him off. You know. We're

682
00:58:00.360 --> 00:58:02.800
not even in Canada, where the
black bears get a lot bigger, where

683
00:58:02.800 --> 00:58:07.760
they might actually pose a threat.
Noe. Where we're at, the black

684
00:58:07.800 --> 00:58:12.199
bears are about two hundred and three
hundred pounds. You know, if you've

685
00:58:12.239 --> 00:58:15.159
got an arrow or a rifle,
that's the last thing it wants to run

686
00:58:15.199 --> 00:58:21.000
into. But yeah, he was
running out of his deerstand by something that

687
00:58:21.000 --> 00:58:23.239
he said, like when it was
grounding, he said, I could feel

688
00:58:23.360 --> 00:58:27.920
the vibration going through me, and
I wanted nothing to do with that.

689
00:58:29.559 --> 00:58:35.280
Joey, I doubt he would go
for this, but I mean, if

690
00:58:35.559 --> 00:58:38.039
feel free to pass on my info
if he wants, if he ever needs

691
00:58:38.079 --> 00:58:40.800
to talk to anyone who's not going
to judge, who's not going to make

692
00:58:40.840 --> 00:58:45.519
fun of him, I would love
to talk to that individual. You can

693
00:58:45.559 --> 00:58:50.000
pass on my info and it can
be like not even for a podcast.

694
00:58:50.039 --> 00:58:52.440
I'll just talk to him on the
side, you know, and help him

695
00:58:52.480 --> 00:58:57.199
work through stuff. But yeah,
I mean, Joe, I feel like

696
00:58:57.280 --> 00:59:00.400
we might be chatting again sometime in
the future because stuff is going to keep

697
00:59:00.599 --> 00:59:05.920
going for you. But you know, as as can Squatch said in the

698
00:59:06.039 --> 00:59:09.679
chat chat, I would recommend you
really get to know your your neighbors because

699
00:59:10.880 --> 00:59:15.199
in this situation, it'd probably be
good to have someone you could call just

700
00:59:15.280 --> 00:59:19.320
in case, if you know what
I mean. So it's always good to

701
00:59:19.320 --> 00:59:22.840
know your neighbors. So, uh, we do know them. I'm just

702
00:59:23.400 --> 00:59:29.920
like, I really want to bring
it. I believe that I believe in

703
00:59:30.760 --> 00:59:34.320
Bigfoot in Sasquatch, because like I
said, I mean, I can't even

704
00:59:34.320 --> 00:59:40.360
imagine what my neighbors were thinking when
I started call blasting. That's true.

705
00:59:40.559 --> 00:59:45.840
Yeah, yeah, well make him
so cookies, you know. But Joey,

706
00:59:45.119 --> 00:59:49.079
it's been fun chatting with you.
I hope we chat again in the

707
00:59:49.079 --> 00:59:52.199
future. You can always hit me
up at email big Fast sit at gmail

708
00:59:52.199 --> 00:59:55.519
dot com. I do uh,
I do want to head on. I've

709
00:59:55.519 --> 01:00:00.960
got a few calls to make back. But it's been fun chatting with you,

710
01:00:00.079 --> 01:00:06.719
and best of luck. Thanks man, you got a great podcast.

711
01:00:06.760 --> 01:00:15.039
Man, thank you having a good
enjoy all right, that was that was

712
01:00:15.079 --> 01:00:17.199
good. I'm going to play the
intro real quick while I get set up

713
01:00:17.239 --> 01:00:21.800
for the next one here. All
right, we're back. Okay, So

714
01:00:21.840 --> 01:00:25.920
that was an awesome call with Joey
Outam Maryland. He's got some wild stuff

715
01:00:25.960 --> 01:00:29.639
going on. I think that I
will actually be talking to him in the

716
01:00:29.679 --> 01:00:34.360
future. But I've got a few
calls to make here, so we are

717
01:00:34.360 --> 01:00:38.480
going to call back see if this
person is still awake and what they've got

718
01:00:38.519 --> 01:00:58.920
to share. Hello, Hi,
this is Jeremiah. Uh we just spoke

719
01:00:59.000 --> 01:01:01.599
your I did that again. I'm
sorry, Joey. I always do this,

720
01:01:06.960 --> 01:01:08.480
guys, I always do that.
Well, I've done it two times.

721
01:01:08.519 --> 01:01:30.920
All right, Okay, here we
go. This is a new one.

722
01:01:32.079 --> 01:01:37.000
Hello. Hi, this is Jeremiah. Hi. Hi, who is

723
01:01:37.039 --> 01:01:43.199
this? This is Carla Carla,
thank you for calling in. Did you

724
01:01:43.239 --> 01:01:46.480
get a chance to fill out the
guest release for him? Yes? I

725
01:01:46.519 --> 01:01:50.599
did, perfect. All right,
well, I appreciate you calling in.

726
01:01:51.800 --> 01:01:54.360
I would imagine you've got something to
share, so I'm going to go ahead

727
01:01:54.400 --> 01:02:00.719
and hand it right over to you. Okay. I just wanted to start

728
01:02:00.760 --> 01:02:06.679
with saying that I've always been interested
in, you know, fringe things like

729
01:02:06.800 --> 01:02:10.400
ghosts, UFOs, things like that, and when I was younger, I

730
01:02:10.480 --> 01:02:17.360
was interested in Bigfoot. But as
I got older, I kind of I

731
01:02:17.480 --> 01:02:22.599
kind of realized that that was the
least likely of all these things to actually

732
01:02:22.679 --> 01:02:27.360
exist, you know, a giant, a giant ape in the woods in

733
01:02:28.079 --> 01:02:31.440
the United States, and we have
all this technology, and so my interest

734
01:02:31.559 --> 01:02:37.039
kind of waned from the whole Bigfoot
thing. And then it was about twenty

735
01:02:37.119 --> 01:02:43.760
fourteen. I was watching YouTube and
I just had a video pop up,

736
01:02:43.800 --> 01:02:47.480
a suggestion for a bigfoot video,
and so I thought, all right,

737
01:02:47.519 --> 01:02:51.639
well, I've watched just about every
kind of ghost thing that was out there,

738
01:02:51.679 --> 01:02:52.800
so let me just let me just
watch this. So I did,

739
01:02:54.199 --> 01:03:01.679
and just immediately I started having these
flashbacks and I mean of something that it

740
01:03:01.760 --> 01:03:05.719
was like, I guess I had
forgotten about, but at the same time,

741
01:03:05.760 --> 01:03:09.679
it seemed like I had always known. And so what it was was

742
01:03:10.119 --> 01:03:15.440
when I was about seven years old. I'm gonna say it was about seven

743
01:03:15.519 --> 01:03:19.239
years old, because it was right
before I moved to Florida. This is

744
01:03:19.280 --> 01:03:23.400
in bunkhom County, North Carolina,
in the Smoking Mountains. Me and my

745
01:03:23.480 --> 01:03:28.400
cousin used to go and, you
know, play in the woods. This

746
01:03:28.440 --> 01:03:30.800
isn't right in the middle of it's
basically like a valley or in the middle

747
01:03:31.119 --> 01:03:36.079
of a bunch of mountains and my
grandmother's house and so my cousin and I

748
01:03:36.119 --> 01:03:38.719
would go everywhere, you know.
She would set us out in the morning

749
01:03:38.719 --> 01:03:40.719
and be like, don't come back
till, you know, the evening,

750
01:03:40.880 --> 01:03:45.679
till it's dinner time. And there
was one part of the woods though,

751
01:03:45.679 --> 01:03:52.679
that we weren't allowed to go,
and it was my grandmother's neighbor. He

752
01:03:52.800 --> 01:03:54.719
was a grassy old man and he
didn't want to sign his property, or

753
01:03:54.719 --> 01:03:58.480
that's what we thought. So one
day we knew he was going to be

754
01:03:58.519 --> 01:04:00.920
gone, and so we're like,
okay, this is our chance. So

755
01:04:01.480 --> 01:04:06.119
my cousin and I he was he
was about eight, my cousin, and

756
01:04:06.159 --> 01:04:10.000
so we got on his little dirt
bike, his little mini bike, and

757
01:04:10.039 --> 01:04:15.519
we went back behind behind that neighbor's
house, and so we found this little

758
01:04:15.559 --> 01:04:20.880
clearing. I want to say it
was probably maybe like a quarter mile back,

759
01:04:21.679 --> 01:04:26.239
maybe not even that much, but
we came upon this clearing and we

760
01:04:26.280 --> 01:04:29.320
got off the bike and we were
just you know, standing there, walking

761
01:04:29.320 --> 01:04:32.880
around, looking around, and all
of a sudden, I remember both of

762
01:04:33.000 --> 01:04:35.239
us just got freaked out and we
were both kind of like, do you

763
01:04:35.239 --> 01:04:41.440
want to go? Yeah, let's
go. And then that's when it was

764
01:04:41.559 --> 01:04:45.559
the most I swear I thought it
was going to turn around and see an

765
01:04:45.599 --> 01:04:54.320
African lion. It was the loudest, most permeating sound that you could ever

766
01:04:54.440 --> 01:05:01.320
imagine. It sounded like an African
lion war mixed with an mixed with I

767
01:05:01.320 --> 01:05:06.119
don't even know what. But so
we turned around and there it was.

768
01:05:09.079 --> 01:05:14.880
It was not a bear. It
was on two feet. It was looking

769
01:05:14.960 --> 01:05:18.679
back like I remember at the time
thinking that it was twice the size of

770
01:05:18.719 --> 01:05:23.119
me, so I mean, it
had to be probably eight feet tall,

771
01:05:25.079 --> 01:05:27.719
but it was just standing there.
It had both of its arms down to

772
01:05:27.760 --> 01:05:34.000
its side and its mouth open,
just roaring. And I don't really remember

773
01:05:34.639 --> 01:05:39.719
getting on the bike. The next
thing that I remember is I had,

774
01:05:40.039 --> 01:05:42.199
you know, I was on the
back of the bike, and so I

775
01:05:42.280 --> 01:05:45.280
had a hold of my cousin's shirt
with both fists, and I had my

776
01:05:45.360 --> 01:05:48.800
head looking down because I was scared
to death and I didn't want to see

777
01:05:48.800 --> 01:05:56.119
anything. And you could actually feel
like footsteps coming through the wheels of the

778
01:05:56.159 --> 01:06:00.280
bike as this thing ran after us. But I, you know, I

779
01:06:00.559 --> 01:06:04.239
assume if I had wanted to catch
us, it would have, but you

780
01:06:04.239 --> 01:06:09.519
know, I never thought obviously,
I never turned around and looked because I

781
01:06:09.559 --> 01:06:14.679
was terrified. And then that's about
That's about the end of the memory.

782
01:06:14.760 --> 01:06:19.400
And so when I remember this,
I immediately, like I said, I

783
01:06:19.480 --> 01:06:23.079
was that was just before I had
moved to Florida, and so my cousin

784
01:06:23.119 --> 01:06:27.280
and I ended up losing touch over
the years, and so immediately I got

785
01:06:27.320 --> 01:06:31.360
on Facebook and you know, found
him and contacted him and I was like,

786
01:06:32.039 --> 01:06:36.800
did this really happen? And he
just sent me like capital letters once

787
01:06:36.800 --> 01:06:40.400
in his back. He's like,
I can't believe you forgot the day we

788
01:06:40.400 --> 01:06:45.920
saw Bigfoot. So, like I
said, that was in twenty fourteen,

789
01:06:45.000 --> 01:06:49.639
and ever since then, I've just
been completely obsessed with the subject. And

790
01:06:49.679 --> 01:06:54.440
even though I know that it was
something that really happened, because like I

791
01:06:54.480 --> 01:06:58.679
said, he was there and corroborates
every you know, aspect of it,

792
01:06:59.280 --> 01:07:03.679
I still kind of just I guess
I'm just trying to see another one so

793
01:07:03.760 --> 01:07:09.440
that I know I'm not crazy.
But so, yeah, that's that.

794
01:07:09.559 --> 01:07:13.719
I've had a few things happen since
then, but that's that's the big thing.

795
01:07:15.719 --> 01:07:23.079
That that is wild goodness. So
you mentioned the county, can you

796
01:07:23.920 --> 01:07:27.280
is there a specific part of the
county that you can kind of share.

797
01:07:28.639 --> 01:07:31.400
Yeah, this was in Candler,
North Carolina c A N D L E.

798
01:07:31.519 --> 01:07:35.800
R. And I also let me
just tell you this. We used

799
01:07:35.840 --> 01:07:42.639
to hear before this happened. We
used to hear something screaming, and like

800
01:07:42.679 --> 01:07:45.400
I said, because she was down
in a valley, it sounded like it

801
01:07:45.480 --> 01:07:48.679
was coming from all around. But
we would hear things screaming in the summertime,

802
01:07:48.840 --> 01:07:53.599
like summertime going into autumn, and
she would my grandmother say that it

803
01:07:53.639 --> 01:07:57.320
was panthers. But now as an
adult looking back, I know what a

804
01:07:57.360 --> 01:08:00.039
panther sounds like, and that's not
what it was. It was. It

805
01:08:00.119 --> 01:08:08.239
was kind of like the Ohio Hut. And also she was very adamant about

806
01:08:10.559 --> 01:08:15.480
having the windows the curtains closed before
nighttime, and we would say why,

807
01:08:15.599 --> 01:08:17.640
you know, like what we would
question about it, and she would say,

808
01:08:18.640 --> 01:08:24.119
we have to get the windows closed
before the summerman comes or he'll peek

809
01:08:24.159 --> 01:08:26.399
in at you. And we were
like, well, what's the summer man

810
01:08:27.560 --> 01:08:30.279
and she would just say, Oh, he's somebody that walks around and looks

811
01:08:30.279 --> 01:08:33.720
to see if make sure little kids
are in bed. So of course we

812
01:08:33.760 --> 01:08:36.159
thought, you know, she was
just trying to get us in bed or

813
01:08:36.199 --> 01:08:43.520
whatever. Well, a few years
back, I was I was watching something

814
01:08:43.600 --> 01:08:48.399
on Bigfoot and come to find out
that is what some of the tribes call

815
01:08:48.520 --> 01:08:56.239
Bigfoot the summerman, because that's when
he comes around. And so just between

816
01:08:56.239 --> 01:09:00.520
that, oh, and she used
to also talk about the catamounts, and

817
01:09:00.560 --> 01:09:02.640
we would say, well, what's
a catamount? And we thought, you

818
01:09:02.640 --> 01:09:08.039
know, it some kind of cat
because catamount and we would ask her,

819
01:09:08.039 --> 01:09:10.000
you know, is it a cat
is it is it a mountain lion?

820
01:09:10.039 --> 01:09:12.039
Is it a panther? And she
would say no, but she wouldn't tell

821
01:09:12.119 --> 01:09:15.520
us what it was. And now
I've come to find out that that's also

822
01:09:15.680 --> 01:09:18.840
something. A catamount is also something
that you call bigfoot. You can also

823
01:09:18.960 --> 01:09:24.319
a lot of people also call a
mountain's catamount, but it's interchangeable with mountain

824
01:09:24.319 --> 01:09:30.399
lions also bigfoot. But so looking
back, I think that she knew.

825
01:09:30.000 --> 01:09:35.319
And my father, who was raised
in that same house, he says he

826
01:09:35.399 --> 01:09:40.399
remembers being about two years old and
being in a crib and he would look

827
01:09:40.479 --> 01:09:45.279
up at the window at night and
see a monkey, a monkey man looking

828
01:09:45.319 --> 01:09:50.159
down at him, and on more
than one occasion. So yeah, looking

829
01:09:50.199 --> 01:09:56.680
back, I think she knew,
and I think that activity was always it

830
01:09:56.720 --> 01:09:59.439
was always happening around there. They
did, you know, let us,

831
01:09:59.600 --> 01:10:02.720
Like I said, they would let
us go and play with no boundaries really

832
01:10:02.720 --> 01:10:08.640
and no restrictions. But my granam
my grandfather would always say, if you're

833
01:10:08.680 --> 01:10:14.199
out playing and the woods go quiet, run get out of there, and

834
01:10:14.279 --> 01:10:16.680
he used to always droll that into
us. So yeah, I think they

835
01:10:16.720 --> 01:10:24.239
both they both had some experience with
it. And my grand my grandmother grew

836
01:10:24.359 --> 01:10:28.439
up in northern Georgia, so I
think I think she knew what these things

837
01:10:28.439 --> 01:10:31.119
were, and I think she knew
they were around. They're in Bunkham County

838
01:10:31.119 --> 01:10:36.039
and North Carolina, So yeah,
that's about it. Oh, my goodness,

839
01:10:36.159 --> 01:10:42.960
is that still in the family that
property? Yes? Really, yeah.

840
01:10:43.079 --> 01:10:45.039
Matter of fact, the cousin that
was with me that day, he

841
01:10:45.079 --> 01:10:47.439
owns that house. He owns her
house now because she's obviously passed. But

842
01:10:47.520 --> 01:10:50.600
I got to talk to that cousin, you know, you know, you've

843
01:10:50.640 --> 01:10:56.680
got to pass on the info to
the cousins. I definitely will use I

844
01:10:56.720 --> 01:11:00.800
guarantee it. Oh yeah, I
haven't talked to him a couple of years.

845
01:11:00.880 --> 01:11:03.439
But but yeah, he's just he's
just a message away on Facebook,

846
01:11:03.520 --> 01:11:09.239
so oh please. But yeah,
it's it's really weird because, like I

847
01:11:09.239 --> 01:11:11.680
said, it's like, now that
I remembered it, it feels like that

848
01:11:11.720 --> 01:11:15.319
memory was always there. And and
the weird thing was, like I said,

849
01:11:15.359 --> 01:11:17.479
I Bigfoot was the last thing that
I thought was real, even though

850
01:11:17.520 --> 01:11:23.880
I had already had this this incident
and didn't remember it. So yeah,

851
01:11:25.199 --> 01:11:29.640
very strange. I got. We
got a few questions, if that's all

852
01:11:29.720 --> 01:11:34.840
right, that's fine, all right. So yeah, here here's some interesting

853
01:11:34.840 --> 01:11:39.760
ones. So squatch and holler uh
says, was there water near the woods

854
01:11:39.920 --> 01:11:46.399
you weren't supposed to go into?
There were Like now now that I go

855
01:11:46.439 --> 01:11:49.920
and look at it on Google Maps, there is water. I didn't know

856
01:11:49.960 --> 01:11:56.239
it at the time, but we
we were told never to go into the

857
01:11:56.279 --> 01:12:01.920
cornfields up up at the top of
the hill. And I feel like I

858
01:12:02.000 --> 01:12:06.760
remember having having been chased out of
the cornfield a couple of times, but

859
01:12:06.960 --> 01:12:10.600
in my memory it was by a
man. So I don't know, I

860
01:12:10.680 --> 01:12:13.720
might want to I might want to
ask my cousin about that, So,

861
01:12:14.439 --> 01:12:16.800
yeah, I would. I would
think that that could be interesting too.

862
01:12:17.800 --> 01:12:23.680
Yeah, you know, going back
into your what you remembered, Uh,

863
01:12:23.840 --> 01:12:27.479
can squatch has a good question?
Did anything stand out about the mouth or

864
01:12:27.520 --> 01:12:34.119
the face from what you saw the
the mouth, well, I mean the

865
01:12:34.159 --> 01:12:40.279
mouth was open, because it was
it was basically screaming, But that the

866
01:12:40.359 --> 01:12:45.279
face is hard for me to recollect. I do remember that it was more

867
01:12:46.000 --> 01:12:50.039
man looking than because at no point
did I think that we had seen a

868
01:12:50.039 --> 01:12:54.840
giant monkey like that never crossed my
mind. So I want to say that

869
01:12:54.920 --> 01:12:59.840
it looked more human like and it
was just confusing, you know, But

870
01:13:00.159 --> 01:13:02.439
it's mouth, it was open,
it was screaming, and I guess maybe

871
01:13:02.439 --> 01:13:04.720
it just wanted to run us out
of there. And like, looking back,

872
01:13:04.760 --> 01:13:09.279
I remember I wonder if that's why
we weren't allowed to go back there.

873
01:13:10.760 --> 01:13:12.920
And actually, now that I think
about it, yeah, there was

874
01:13:14.600 --> 01:13:18.439
a pond with with I don't know
what kind of fissure was, but he

875
01:13:18.560 --> 01:13:21.239
had his own little pond where he
used to go fishing in the older gentleman

876
01:13:21.359 --> 01:13:26.000
at my grandmother's house. So yeah, And that was all right around in

877
01:13:26.039 --> 01:13:31.359
that area. So yeah, and
then there was seems like there was something

878
01:13:31.359 --> 01:13:34.800
else I was going to tell you, oh, in that area. Also,

879
01:13:34.960 --> 01:13:39.319
when I was younger, I remember
my grandmother telling me about how a

880
01:13:39.319 --> 01:13:44.199
little girl had disappeared. Her mother
was out I guess she was putting clothes

881
01:13:44.199 --> 01:13:48.119
on the line or something. And
I think this probably would have been I

882
01:13:48.159 --> 01:13:53.439
was little, so I was born
in seventy seven, so this was in

883
01:13:53.520 --> 01:13:57.840
the late seventies early eighties probably unless
it had happened earlier. But my grandmother

884
01:13:57.840 --> 01:14:00.520
would tell me about this little girl
who had disappeared up down the holler somewhere,

885
01:14:00.600 --> 01:14:04.520
and her mother had been out hanging
clothes on the line and turned around

886
01:14:04.560 --> 01:14:11.880
and she was just gone, and
I mean within ten seconds. And there's

887
01:14:12.399 --> 01:14:15.520
you know, from the way my
grandmother described it, there's no way that

888
01:14:15.520 --> 01:14:19.720
a person could have grabbed that baby
and taken off and they never found her.

889
01:14:19.840 --> 01:14:29.520
So oh boy. Also another question
about when you had that that visual

890
01:14:29.560 --> 01:14:35.640
and that experience. Do you remember
how that that scream made you feel in

891
01:14:35.680 --> 01:14:45.960
that situation? I mean, it
almost was so loud that it I feel

892
01:14:45.000 --> 01:14:48.199
like I almost went into shock,
because, like I said, I don't

893
01:14:48.239 --> 01:14:53.640
remember anything from the time we saw
it until the time we were down the

894
01:14:53.680 --> 01:14:57.840
trail, you know, riding away
as fast as we could. But I

895
01:14:57.880 --> 01:15:00.920
could feel it. It was,
you know, it just like I said,

896
01:15:00.920 --> 01:15:06.359
permeated every inch of your body.
My insides were jiggling. And but

897
01:15:06.439 --> 01:15:15.960
yeah, sheer tear, sheer tair
is happened. My goodness, that's so

898
01:15:16.119 --> 01:15:20.000
intense. Uh Wesley. That was
from Squatch and Holler, guys, make

899
01:15:20.039 --> 01:15:25.840
sure you follow his channel. He's
got some incredible interviews as well. Uh

900
01:15:25.920 --> 01:15:30.560
Wesley. From the chat. Did
you hear three pop or knock noise?

901
01:15:30.880 --> 01:15:36.439
Uh? At all during the situation. Not during the situation, but we

902
01:15:36.479 --> 01:15:44.720
did hear what I now know our
wood knocks back then, and you know,

903
01:15:44.800 --> 01:15:47.279
like I said, at the the
actual encounter, there could have been

904
01:15:47.399 --> 01:15:50.640
I have no idea because we weren't
paying attention. We were just little kids,

905
01:15:50.680 --> 01:15:54.680
you know, rooting around we had, we had a stick we were

906
01:15:54.720 --> 01:15:59.600
we were making seemed like I remember
we were making designs in the dirt with

907
01:15:59.640 --> 01:16:03.199
a stick or something like that,
and we just we just both got creeped

908
01:16:03.239 --> 01:16:06.640
out at the same time. And
then and that's when it happened. And

909
01:16:08.279 --> 01:16:14.159
it's weird because as much as it
sounds just like a lion roaring, there

910
01:16:14.199 --> 01:16:19.159
was also like an elephant trumpet kind
of thing going on, because I was

911
01:16:19.159 --> 01:16:24.680
at the zoo a couple of years
ago and the elephant was right next and

912
01:16:24.720 --> 01:16:29.840
it just brought back memories. So
it was it was kind of a mixture

913
01:16:29.840 --> 01:16:32.159
of noises, but it was to
this day the loudest thing I've ever heard

914
01:16:32.199 --> 01:16:36.079
in my entire life. I mean, I can't even describe you the volume.

915
01:16:36.359 --> 01:16:41.319
You said it sounded like an elephant
trumpet noise as well. Yeah,

916
01:16:41.439 --> 01:16:45.279
like a like a lion roaring,
but mixed with an elephant trumpeting. It

917
01:16:45.359 --> 01:16:47.600
was. I just, yeah,
that's the best I can describe it.

918
01:16:48.600 --> 01:16:53.359
Guys in the chat, let me
know, have you ever heard a description

919
01:16:53.520 --> 01:16:57.760
I've heard description of like lion roar
but the elephant trumpet at the same time.

920
01:16:58.399 --> 01:17:01.960
That's totally new for me. That's
really interesting. Yeah, I just

921
01:17:02.079 --> 01:17:05.399
remember when when I heard it at
the zoo that it immediately made me,

922
01:17:05.920 --> 01:17:11.119
made me go back to that.
So but yeah, there's a lot of

923
01:17:11.119 --> 01:17:15.600
it, like when we when we
ran that's blocked out and the next thing

924
01:17:15.600 --> 01:17:18.159
that I remember is just having my
my cousin's shirt in both my hands,

925
01:17:19.039 --> 01:17:23.880
squeezing his shirt and looking down and
just waiting for something to pull me off

926
01:17:23.880 --> 01:17:29.359
the back of that bike. You
know, I'm not I'm not surprised at

927
01:17:29.399 --> 01:17:35.000
all that your your brain made you
forget this, you know, just yes,

928
01:17:35.159 --> 01:17:39.319
a few people in the chat said, uh, you know it was

929
01:17:39.399 --> 01:17:43.439
it was to protect you so that
you could you could live and not have

930
01:17:43.520 --> 01:17:48.079
to deal it. But it came
back to you, did anything else weird

931
01:17:48.239 --> 01:17:54.000
happen when you were in that area
that you know, you may not attribute

932
01:17:54.039 --> 01:17:57.520
to Bigfoot, but you can remember, Oh there's other weird stuff that happened

933
01:17:57.560 --> 01:18:02.720
as well. Orbs. We would
see orbs, and I remember that because

934
01:18:02.720 --> 01:18:06.720
my grandmother would say that it was
the ghost of pioneer women who had been

935
01:18:06.760 --> 01:18:10.960
slaughtered and you know, just trying
to scare us. But yeah, we

936
01:18:10.960 --> 01:18:13.920
would see orbs in the light,
I mean in the woods and it would

937
01:18:13.960 --> 01:18:18.520
look almost just like somebody walking with
the lantern where there wouldn't have been anybody.

938
01:18:19.600 --> 01:18:26.159
So but other than that, in
that particular area, I don't remember

939
01:18:26.199 --> 01:18:31.000
anything. But I did have one
more experience in North Carolina and this was

940
01:18:32.399 --> 01:18:36.680
this is just real quick. This
was in Spruce Pine, North Carolina,

941
01:18:38.039 --> 01:18:44.159
or uh more like North Cove.
There's a a big factory that I used

942
01:18:44.199 --> 01:18:46.640
to work at. Anybody that knows
the area would know what I'm talking about.

943
01:18:46.760 --> 01:18:54.000
But we had gotten off one night
and this finding Bigfoot actually did an

944
01:18:54.000 --> 01:18:58.359
episode in Spruce Pine, where I'm
at right now and where this took place.

945
01:18:59.159 --> 01:19:02.000
So it has a hit stream,
a big fit activity. But anyway,

946
01:19:02.039 --> 01:19:06.439
I was leaving work, this would
have been maybe three years ago now,

947
01:19:08.800 --> 01:19:12.960
got off work one night and there's
a big stretch late at night.

948
01:19:13.039 --> 01:19:17.039
It's it's a pretty lonesome road.
And so I was driving down the road

949
01:19:17.159 --> 01:19:24.640
and the a coworker was in a
car near me, and at first I

950
01:19:24.680 --> 01:19:29.520
thought, what was a bear was
about to cross This is kind of wo

951
01:19:29.600 --> 01:19:32.880
but this is what I saw.
It was what I thought was a bear

952
01:19:33.239 --> 01:19:38.720
was running across the road in front
of me, because it kind of reminded

953
01:19:38.760 --> 01:19:46.039
me of beare legs, except that
I couldn't see anything above the legs.

954
01:19:46.159 --> 01:19:51.279
It was like there was half of
something and then the top half just wasn't

955
01:19:51.319 --> 01:19:57.000
there. And then the more that
it came into the road, the legs

956
01:19:57.119 --> 01:20:00.880
were way too far apart to be
a maybe if it was a giant polar

957
01:20:00.920 --> 01:20:04.680
bear, but not the black bears
we have around here. There was probably

958
01:20:04.720 --> 01:20:11.000
six feet between the front legs and
the back legs. And yeah, I

959
01:20:11.039 --> 01:20:13.960
slammed on my brakes. The car
next to me slammed on their brakes,

960
01:20:14.159 --> 01:20:17.399
and he ended up rolling down his
window and was like, what the f

961
01:20:17.600 --> 01:20:23.399
was? And you know, I
don't know what that was, but it

962
01:20:23.520 --> 01:20:27.279
wasn't a bear, and it wasn't
you know, the only thing I can

963
01:20:27.319 --> 01:20:30.920
think of is maybe it was maybe
it was a sasquatch on all fours.

964
01:20:31.479 --> 01:20:33.920
But then every time he would see
me and work after that, he would

965
01:20:33.960 --> 01:20:39.399
be like, hey, sasquatch sister. But yeah, so that was another

966
01:20:39.439 --> 01:20:44.760
thing. That's about an hour from
where my childhood encounter happened. But yeah,

967
01:20:44.960 --> 01:20:48.840
so that's that's another thing that's that
I've seen. Carla, no idea

968
01:20:48.880 --> 01:20:57.760
about that holy mackerel. Uh,
Probably one of it's in my top coolest

969
01:20:58.479 --> 01:21:02.479
people encounters have talked. I mean, Carl, your story is awesome and

970
01:21:02.840 --> 01:21:08.279
definitely if you can pass on my
info to the cousin and be like,

971
01:21:08.359 --> 01:21:11.680
hey, just in case you're having
weird stuff going on, there's a guy

972
01:21:11.720 --> 01:21:15.840
that would talk to you and not
make fun of you. And yeah,

973
01:21:15.880 --> 01:21:19.600
I definitely will wow, And I'll
call back another time because I do have

974
01:21:19.840 --> 01:21:25.279
I do have another one that's even
crazier than those two, but yeah,

975
01:21:25.279 --> 01:21:28.439
it's more on the WU side.
Yeah, hey, I love it.

976
01:21:28.479 --> 01:21:31.439
I love it. Thank you so
much for calling up, and we'll talk

977
01:21:31.479 --> 01:21:41.039
to you next time. Carla,
Okay, thank you appreciated my goodness.

978
01:21:42.159 --> 01:21:45.880
That was awesome. That was legit. I just wanted to take a few

979
01:21:45.920 --> 01:21:51.159
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980
01:21:51.359 --> 01:21:56.720
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981
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01:22:03.920 --> 01:22:08.800
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985
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986
01:22:17.079 --> 01:22:23.640
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987
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01:22:28.720 --> 01:22:30.880
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989
01:22:30.920 --> 01:22:36.840
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990
01:22:36.920 --> 01:22:41.680
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991
01:22:41.720 --> 01:22:45.560
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992
01:22:45.560 --> 01:22:50.000
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